london . in being upstanding in london. in being upstanding for the national anthem, rishi sunak vowed to stand up for tolerance and free speech as conflicts overseas . he's created conflicts overseas. he's created division at home, he said in a speech on foreign policy . he speech on foreign policy. he also praised the work of the former foreign secretary james cleverly, while expressing high expectations for the return of lord david cameron to cabinet and so we've delivered one of the most significant years for british foreign policy in recent times . times. >> that's due in no small part to james cleverly and i know that he'll bring the same vigour to the equally vital job of home secretary . and i am pleased to secretary. and i am pleased to have appointed a new foreign secretary who will build on everything that we have achieved in the last year as well . in the last year as well. >> earlier, the prime minister said the cabinet reshuffle had built a united team . let's take

built a united team. let's take you through what happened today. well, later on in the evening we saw gb news presenter and former housing minister esther mcvey entering downing street . she entering downing street. she re—emerged later as minister without portfolio. that's being suggested as a role involving the minister of common sense. informally meanwhile, victoria atkins is the new health secretary, replacing steve barclay, who takes environment . barclay, who takes environment. laura trott steps in as treasury . chief secretary. well, also in that government reshuffle, richard holden is the new chair of the conservative party and the former prime minister, lord david cameron was appointed foreign secretary seven years after he left number 10. he replaces james cleverly, who takes up the role of home secretary that it's after suella braverman was sacked by the prime minister early this morning , prime minister early this morning, ending prime minister early this morning , ending days of morning, ending days of speculation about her job security in government . security in government. meanwhile, the new foreign secretary, lord david cameron, says he is delighted to be back

in government and hope that six years as prime minister, ii years as prime minister, 11 years as prime minister, 11 years leading the conservative party, gives me some useful experience and contacts and relationships and knowledge that i can help the prime minister to make sure we build our alliances. >> we build partnerships with our friends, we deter our enemies , and we keep our country enemies, and we keep our country strong. that's why i'm doing the job and i'm delighted to accept lord david cameron speaking there . there. >> but his return isn't without controversy, some suggesting he won't be facing, for example, regular grillings from mps. won't be facing, for example, regular grillings from mps . lord regular grillings from mps. lord cameron's position in the house of lords means he's exempt from regular sessions of foreign office questions with junior ministers fielding questions for him instead. number 10 says he won't draw an attendance salary for the house of lords , though for the house of lords, though whilst he is foreign secretary and away from politics today, the funeral of sir bobby charlton took place in manchester today at the cathedral in attendance, his

royal highness prince of wales, as well as the former manchester united manager , sir alex united manager, sir alex ferguson. freddie jones and fans gathered in their thousands to bid sir bobby farewell , lining bid sir bobby farewell, lining the streets near old trafford , the streets near old trafford, the streets near old trafford, the football great making 758 appearances for manchester united and winning the european cup in 1968, as well as the world cup with england . in 1966 . world cup with england. in 1966. the farewell to sir bobby charlton today. now gusts of over 70 miles an hour have been recorded as storm debbie sweeps across the uk tonight, the storm has left thousands of homes without power and caused some disruption for rail passengers. you're watching on television. these are the scenes along the kent coast earlier on today. these are the scenes along the kent coast earlier on today . and kent coast earlier on today. and a week's worth of rain is due to fall across parts of the uk tomorrow as wet weather continues to batter the country. a yellow warning is in place for thunderstorm forms from 5 am. tomorrow morning until midday.

that covers london, the south—east and the south—west of england, whose turn it is to be battered by storm. debbie, this is gb news across the uk on tv, in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news. this is britain's news channel . britain's news channel. >> hello and welcome to headliners. i'm simon evans. >> i've gone fully autumnal , >> i've gone fully autumnal, braced for the autumn weather thatis braced for the autumn weather that is going to be sweeping through the studio this evening and i already sense that and i can already sense that i've it. i've overdone it. >> me tonight for a fun >> joining me tonight for a fun frolic through tuesday's newspapers . nice to see you. newspapers. nice to see you. bruce devlin , podcast royalty. bruce devlin, podcast royalty. nick , thank you. you've nick dixon, thank you. you've got a decent trail there. >> yeah, well, a million downloads on the weekly sceptic just interviewed dave rubin on my other podcast, a million downloads. >> that amazing . and those >> that is amazing. and those are like human downloads , are

are like human downloads, are they humans? not i those are real astonishing. what have you been by comparison? real astonishing. what have you beeoh, by comparison? real astonishing. what have you beeoh, you by comparison? real astonishing. what have you beeoh, you knownparison? real astonishing. what have you beeoh, you know ,parison? real astonishing. what have you beeoh, you know , crying.? >> oh, you know, crying. >> oh, you know, crying. >> yeah, that kind of thing . >> yeah, that kind of thing. wishing i had a million downloads in any form. i know. i can't. understand how can't. i don't understand how it works , but maybe we can tag on works, but maybe we can tag on to coattails. let's be to nick's coattails. let's be nice him, see he can be nice to him, see if he can be swept up into his tear. be a nice change. so let's take a gander tuesday's front pages, gander at tuesday's front pages, we mail rishi's. we have the daily mail rishi's. big throw of the dice , which is big throw of the dice, which is an interesting way to describe reappointing an ex prime minister telegraph cameron's return sparks brexiteer clash ash there is that picture will repair guardian cameron's shock return in high stakes reshuffle the times sunak brings cameron back from the wilderness. i news back from the wilderness. i news back to the future . that's back to the future. that's a fair way of putting it. pm gambles on the return of david cameron and finally, the daily star wrote rise of the slapheads

. well, those are your front pages. . well, those are your front pages . so . well, those are your front pages. so kicking for off . well, those are your front pages . so kicking for off the pages. so kicking for off the in—depth look, what are we going to go with the times? i think first, yeah. >> so the headline is sunak bnngs >> so the headline is sunak brings cameron back from the wilderness. a lot of people would say the dead because he seemed to kind of pass on and go away for ages . there is a huge away for ages. there is a huge amount of controversy in this with him being a member of the house of lords, although he won't. >> wow. >> wow. >> i think that was david thumbing through the room. >> psychic sally here in the room with us. >> exactly. >> exactly. >> but because he does have a peerage and because he in the he is the lords, he's not going is in the lords, he's not going to allowed he's not going to be allowed to. he's not going to be allowed to. he's not going to able to draw lords to be able to draw his lords salary, attendance salary, his daily attendance salary, his daily attendance salary . salary. >> okay. presume he won't be >> okay. so presume he won't be too upset about because too upset about that because he'll salary for this job. >> yeah, but i think because of his association with the lords, he have to go he doesn't actually have to go and questioned the and be questioned within the house of commons. >> that's right. correct. >> no, that's right. correct. i

mean, there committee stages >> no, that's right. correct. i mean,are re committee stages >> no, that's right. correct. i mean,are re committeeae stages >> no, that's right. correct. i mean,are re committee stages.es which are the committee stages. i you know, i think there are, you know, arrangements of the main arrangements outside of the main chamber can chamber where he can be questioned quizzed he questioned and quizzed and he can attacked for can be obviously attacked for his policies within house of his policies within the house of lords. labour and so on, have representatives in but it representatives in there. but it is it's not entirely without precedent. it. nick precedent. i remember it. nick do remember do you remember it? lord carrington, who was foreign secretary the falklands was secretary when the falklands was invaded in 1982. he was in the house of lords and he resigned as foreign secretary at that point it was the last honourable resigned nation. >> i'm too young, but i believe you . you. >> yeah, and people have come back. was it a 70? i thought it was 50 years ago. >> okay was 50 years ago. >> so okay was 50 years ago. >> so and�*kay was 50 years ago. >> so and i'm less concerned about the lords part. >> i mean, concerned >> i mean, i'm more concerned that they're just out of ideas, out touch the people, out of touch with the people, out of touch with the people, out members, out of touch with the members, you there has been you know, because there has been a shift since cameron a tectonic shift since cameron was you know, brexit. was in, you know, with brexit. >> course he's not >> and he, of course he's not just a remainer, he's a kind of er remainer. >> he's the remainer because he made happen. >> he's the remainer because he ma so happen. >> he's the remainer because he ma so yeah, happen. >> he's the remainer because he ma so yeah, i happen. >> he's the remainer because he ma so yeah, i think happen. >> he's the remainer because he ma so yeah, i think hivery�*n. >> so yeah, i think it's very bad for them and obviously it's going a lot voters. >> going to alienate the >> it's going to alienate the red wall. they obviously it's

going to votes in the going to win some votes in the south—west, i think it's a south—west, but i think it's a gamble a terrible gamble and a terrible idea overall. heir to overall. and he's the heir to blair. mean, carl blair. remember? i mean, carl benjamin is always saying that the the the tories are trapped in the blairite paradigm. and cameron, there called there was a documentary called there was a documentary called the by peter the toff at the top by peter hitchens. he started off trying to be conservative. >> gave up on >> then he gave up on that because well. because he didn't do very well. >> fully a new >> it just became fully a new labour type. think it's labour type. and i think it's a disaster for anyone who actually wants conservative wants a conservative conservative actually conservative party. he actually he considered at conservative party. he actually he time considered at conservative party. he actually he time be considered at conservative party. he actually he time be corofjered at conservative party. he actually he time be corof very at the time to be a sort of very generous and noble and sort of decent diplomatic speech, didn't he? labour's he? acknowledging new labour's achievements when he came in, i remember famous was remember the famous phrase was he bequeathed us a country more at ease with itself than the one that he found . and everyone that he found. and everyone thought, decent, generous thought, that's decent, generous , sort you know, gentlemanly , sort of, you know, gentlemanly sort of. but it turned out he was actually rather more in hock to blair, right? yeah. it was a social liberal and things like the a—list, where was all the a—list, where it was all obsessed in the obsessed with diversity in the cabinet. on, packing cabinet. and so on, packing quangos. cabinet. and so on, packing quangos . yeah. quangos. yeah. >> and packing them. >> and packing them. >> yeah. and then people are saying, why not get someone from

your own team? why go back to cameron ? you know, there's the cameron? you know, there's the age maybe, but age and experience. maybe, but is good experience? although is it good experience? although i will say thing, good i will say one thing, it is good for colleague in the jungle, for our colleague in the jungle, nigel, he doesn't eat nigel, as long as he doesn't eat anything. bad because you anything. too bad because you see, implode. see, the tories will implode. nigel comes in farage 2029 wins becomes minister that is becomes prime minister that is obviously think it'd be obviously i think it'd be very unlikely they'll the unlikely that they'll lose the next sorry the tories next election. sorry the tories will win and it's probably will will win and it's probably between badenoch and farage for people of a sort of proper dry right or suella. no, isn't it. i can't see suella as prime minister. i i don't want to diss her on the her bad day. i think she did. she did speak for a large part of the population and she spoke some certain, some pretty harsh truths, albeit possibly an intemperate language. don't think she language. but i don't think she has there has to be farage. has the there has to be farage. >> yeah, we were speaking about this on friday that insiders were she was were saying that she was deliberately trying to be inflammatory in her language in order get sacked in which order to get sacked in which to launch leadership launch a leadership campaign. i don't know if that's true. launch a leadership campaign. i don't krwellf that's true. launch a leadership campaign. i don't krwell that's; true. >> no. well that's i think that's probably a two that's that's probably a two dimensional isn't it?

dimensional chess, isn't it? which is more than adequate for most people's intellect, mine included. what's the telegraph got, nick? is it anything different? well, of course they've got the cameron story, but got rwanda plan they've got the cameron story, but go got rwanda plan they've got the cameron story, but go ahead, got rwanda plan they've got the cameron story, but go ahead, evenawanda plan they've got the cameron story, but go ahead, even if'anda plan they've got the cameron story, but go ahead, even if it|da plan they've got the cameron story, but go ahead, even if it means1 must go ahead, even if it means leaving. echr immigration minister robert jenrick is saying will leave . no ifs, no saying we will leave. no ifs, no buts, he says . i've been clear buts, he says. i've been clear that do whatever that we have to do whatever it takes. this idea has takes. there was this idea has suella gone now because they think they're going the think they're going to lose the case and then everything will blow up. it'll be massive drama. so . maybe they think so she's gone. maybe they think they're going to it and they're going to lose it and therefore they will have to leave echr it comes down leave the echr and it comes down to have the will to to does sunak have the will to do it? and now perhaps it also comes down the influence comes down to the influence of james and cameron and james cleverly and cameron and cameron's anti echr cameron's been a bit anti echr in cleverly has in the past, but cleverly has been opposed been has publicly opposed leaving now he's in the home leaving and now he's in the home office. so that looks very unlikely now doesn't it? but on the other hand it would be humiliation if they don't because sunak could name because sunak could put his name to plan. that wasn't to that rwanda plan. that wasn't just suella kind brain just a suella kind of brain spun just a suella kind of brain spur, no, they have spur, was it? no, no, they have to and also, we're doing

to do it. and also, we're doing a later immigration a story later about immigration and all of europe and europe. all of europe is becoming on becoming much tougher on immigration. going immigration. so we're going to look very soft and incompetent if can't. right. that's if we can't. right. that's coming up shortly. let's coming up very shortly. let's see can get through the see if we can get through the guardian. bruce hasn't got anythingthis do with >> yes, this is to do with patience. inside israel. >> forces reached gates of trapped body of trapped inside the body of a woman . woman. >> we week we be going early on trends this evening no no for once no be laughing . once no be laughing. >> no, no, no, no, no, no, no. rm — >> no, no, no, no, no, no, no. i'm so basically this is to do with hamas commandeering hospitals . right. and although hospitals. right. and although that's against international law, it means that they are no longer hospitals. and then they can legitimate military targets. yes. and also the hospitals have underground tunnels and stuff where they found hostages and i am no expert and i don't mean this facetiously because it is obviously horrific watching gaza being laid. >> no, matter what you think >> no, no matter what you think about, you know, the to about, you know, the degree to which hamas it in. which hamas called it in. but gaza to an extra gaza does seem to have an extra ordinarily large of ordinarily large number of hospitals , doesn't it? i mean, hospitals, doesn't it? i mean, i've seen maps virtually i've seen maps where virtually every building seems to be

every third building seems to be a hospital and you do begin to become about a hospital and you do begin to beiiime about a hospital and you do begin to bell mean, about a hospital and you do begin to bell mean, we've about a hospital and you do begin to bell mean, we've got about a hospital and you do begin to bell mean, we've got one about a hospital and you do begin to bell mean, we've got one in out it. i mean, we've got one in brighton and the nearest one after is haywards heath and after that is haywards heath and then have to get to then you have to get to guildford suppose cynic guildford i suppose a cynic might need might say they have more need of them given location . i them given their location. i suppose i mean, most nhs suppose not. i mean, most nhs hospitals mainly full of hospitals are mainly full of very people, aren't they? very old people, aren't they? but gaza hospitals have probably got set of got a different set of priorities. know . priorities. i don't know. anyway, i am in i mean, i am being facetious it isn't being facetious and it isn't a laughing matter. it's laughing matter. but yes, it's an situation . hamas an impossible situation. hamas very deliberately and unconscionably put their all their secret tunnels and their weapons and launch all their rockets from the single most , rockets from the single most, you know, disturbed and distressing possible target . distressing possible target. right. yeah. and they've caused this with their october 7th attack. but the problem is the pr battle for israel. the more these things happen, the more the will run stories the guardian will run stories about, you know, babies dying or something. to be something. so it's going to be very absolutely it very tough. yeah absolutely it is. people like is. and you get people like george galloway, you know, trying doubt on the trying to cast doubt on the entire reality of the incursion.

absolutely. i wouldn't be at all surprised if he makes an appearance the next appearance in the next parliament. finally, the daily star nick rise of the slapheads is what they've gone with. and it's you know, it's a welcome break from other tough news. break from the other tough news. it's 88% of love it's 80, 88% of women love chrome domes and it's that they find bald men sexy. but the only problem in the star is that's the latest data from boffins. star always talks about boffins, and most of them, it's saying are probably themselves . so are probably bald themselves. so they're a conflict of they're suggesting a conflict of interest . do think star interest. do you think the star is actually basically is actually like basically a propaganda channel for big boffin ? it's good point. it boffin? it's a good point. it does, always seem does, but they always seem to be anti they yeah, anti boffins. well, they yeah, but a lot. but they talk about them a lot. they about boffins. if we they talk about boffins. if we didn't have the daily sun, we wouldn't hear about boffins at all. you what. mean all. it's do you what. i mean i think actually think it might actually be eggheads boffins funds eggheads and boffins funds would barely life barely feature in public life if it wasn't for the daily star. very clever. little double. that's dimensional chess. that's three dimensional chess. you see, bruce, the boffins being a little bit clever. those are pages coming up are the front pages coming up after the break, carl heneghan needs of needs mending the flower of scotland is hate speech and the

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news radio. and welcome back to headliners. >> so bruce will kick off with the daily mail europe says schengen, schengen bring back borders. >> well, you did interrupt me with the transitioning of a story there. and i think that suella could be transitioning into a new job with schengen here. okay. because this is the mail, this is the shattering of schengen and the map that reveals countries from reveals how 11 countries from france slovakia aims france to slovakia aims souvlakia slovak to sweden to germany are rebelling against eu free movement in the face of terrorism and out—of—control immigration. day by day, the face of europe is dramatically changing as terrorist threats and out of control. >> immigration destroy the uds sorry, the eu's ideal of passport free travel between its member states. so the idea of schengen, which we're all

familiar with this is when you're able to just drive from switzerland, not switzerland, luxembourg , but let's yeah, luxembourg, but let's say yeah, luxembourg, but let's say yeah, luxembourg into france , luxembourg into france, whatever, even whatever, and you don't even nofice countries. >> w- countries. >> to be something >> this seems to be something that they can with draw at will because i was under the impression that was a universal charter , that that was something charter, that that was something they'd committed but they'd all committed to. but it's undermines it. it's rather undermines it. >> so what they've done here is they there are nations in the they there are 11 nations in the schengen from france again schengen area, from france again to slovakia, reinstated to slovakia, have reinstated long border long abandon border restrictions, including identity vetting, passport checks, police interviews, static checkpoints and vehicle inspections. yeah. >> what do you think? it's kind of like you said, simon, because it says taking the train from austria germany like austria into germany feels like taking an existed. so taking an never existed. so there's a feel. there's just kind of a feel. it's they've got rid of it's a vibe. they've got rid of it, but, you know, this is where europe's going. like, i said earlier, on earlier, they're going tough on immigration and of course, we're proportional representation. immigration and of course, we're propccan1al representation. immigration and of course, we're propccan suddenlyantation. they can suddenly bring in fairly wing parties in a fairly right wing parties in a way we're still way we can't. and we're still worried suella latest worried about suella latest mishap. end like mishap. actually we end up like becoming able of becoming like the less able of any we having created any country we having created brexit because we were frankly

terrified freedom of terrified that the freedom of movement would allow all kinds of things to make of unpleasant things to make their across the borders . their way across the borders. right? they can right? in reality, they can reinstitute their borders and we seem helpless. yes, it's madness. and that's what's going to happen. it looks like even quite think of as quite countries we think of as quite countries we think of as quite denmark are quite lefty, like denmark are getting on sweden getting very tough on it. sweden are france are are getting tough. france are getting it's partly getting tough. and it's partly the post world. the the post covid world. it's the russia can't rely on. we russia war we can't rely on. we can't rely russia. then can't rely on russia. and then we in we can't really rely on china in the same so we're moving the same way. so we're moving into more of into a more kind of isolationist. supply chains won't and won't be the same thing. and obviously of mass obviously the threat of mass immigration. it's funny how we anticipated immediately immigration. it's funny how we anticicovid immediately immigration. it's funny how we anticicovid im|alliiately immigration. it's funny how we anticicovid im|all thought after covid that we all thought globalisation over because globalisation was over because of chains carrying of supply chains carrying viruses them, actually , viruses with them, but actually, i think the human threat, i think think the societal, the think i think the societal, the demographic and it's funny, you mentioned denmark as a particular example because i know very proud, know that they are very proud, rightly so, of their heroic, you know , protection that they offer know, protection that they offer to the jews during the second world war. they are they were particularly valiant and self sacrificial in defying the nazis

and several jewish statues and monuments and so on have been defiled recently in the sort of europe wide . this is all really europe wide. this is all really hotting up and it's not you know, we've obviously been mainly focussed on our own remembrance day clash marches and so on, but there's other stuff happening on the continent now. yeah. and i just think it's amusing that worried amusing that how worried we all are about suella braverman when germany, germany's chancellor saying must saying things like we must finally scale finally deport on a grand scale those right stay those who have no right to stay in germany, far more tough in germany, it's far more tough than anything suella be interesting see whether interesting to see whether suella actually takes the opportunity. i've been thinking about a few lecture about this to do a few lecture tours. i suspect she'd quite tours. i suspect she'd be quite popular a number european tours. i suspect she'd be quite pop|possibly number european tours. i suspect she'd be quite pop|possibly america european tours. i suspect she'd be quite pop|possibly america aseuropean and possibly america as a transfer europe classic . transfer to europe is a classic. get through window, nick get through the window, nick telegraph the french have telegraph now the french have spent all their border protection money beans, protection money on magic beans, it yeah cash sent to it seems. yeah cash sent to france to stop migrant crossings spent on microwaves and phone chargers. microwaves. i thought they food. what are they were good at food. what are they were good at food. what are they making ? so i was bothered they making? so i was bothered by that. and frances failed to stop. half all stop. more than half of all migrants trying to make illegal

crossings. we're on 44 million. it's gone microwaves, of it's gone on microwaves, some of it reasonable, it's it seems reasonable, like it's gone riding boots and gone on sort of riding boots and helmets stabling for horses helmets and stabling for horses when they're out there, know when they're out there, you know , on the horses between calais and dieppe whatever, you and dieppe or whatever, how you pronounce that's pronounce it. yeah. and that's more reasonable. but they've also and there also bought printers and there is it's like is a line when it's like microwave the police, you go microwave for the police, you go microwaves really. do we have to pay microwaves really. do we have to pay it's all dodgy. pay for that? so it's all dodgy. i water would i mean, water cannons would be cheapen i mean, water cannons would be cheaper. say that. cheaper. you can't say that. i don't mind they to equip don't mind if they want to equip like on the the don't mind if they want to equip like de on the the don't mind if they want to equip like de la on the the don't mind if they want to equip like de la france he the don't mind if they want to equip like de la france or the don't mind if they want to equip like de la france or whatever , quay de la france or whatever, you a microwave and you know, with a microwave and a kettle and whatever it needs, you know, the comforts as you know, the home comforts as long do the job. but the long as they do the job. but the trouble doing trouble is they're not doing the job you know, they job right. you know, they i mean, there's been all these kind you know, documentaries kind of, you know, documentaries made has made and footage has been released man, mr released and i know our man, mr farage, has been on of all farage, has been on top of all of and it's quite obvious of this. and it's quite obvious that they have no intention at all themselves out all of putting themselves out there, out there, stuffing themselves with ready meals instead of stopping migrants. we need some sort of need to create some sort of watery barrier. need to create some sort of watery barrier . obviously, we watery barrier. obviously, we can't the full gunship can't go the full gunship measures just but you know , measures just yet, but you know, these things that kind of

harness power like like harness wave power like like like a wave machine the other way round to create waves instead of harnessing waves, we just make it too wavy coming out of a good idea mean that whole thing could be like a very nasty water park. just get like a speedboat going forth speedboat going back and forth really all the time, really fast all the time, creating a lot wake . yeah, creating a lot of wake. yeah, that'd be way cheaper than 44 million. it would actually. one speed working day and have speed boat working day and have a dozen speed boats rotation of speed boats just wherever they need they could be need to be. and they could be dropped well by. it's quite a dropped as well by. it's quite a fun job as well. driving a helicopter, going back the helicopter, going back to the office eating microwave office of the eating microwave meals stuff. meals and stuff. >> there wouldn't be any crumbs because lot of this money because a lot of this money has gone vacuum cleaner, vacuum cleaner. >> that's true. >> that's true. >> yes, point. >> yeah. yes, good point. i don't whether the french don't know whether the french are by crumbs, are bothered by crumbs, particularly. are bothered by crumbs, par they rly. are bothered by crumbs, parthey rly. be are bothered by crumbs, partheyrly. be bothered >> they won't be bothered by vermin . vermin. >> w— e guardian have >> bruce the guardian have an unexpected to anti—terror legislation. >> yeah, i read this and reread it, and i really didn't understand it. so it's a plan to tighten the law on glorifying terrorism . and the immediate terrorism. and the immediate thing is similar. please don't

mention his name. could criminalise the crowd at murrayfield. right now. downing streets plan to ban the glorifying of terrorism risks criminalising supporters of the suffragettes , nelson mandela or suffragettes, nelson mandela or even the crowd at murrayfield know why belting out flower of scotland? >> because all scottish traditional anthems contain hate speech. they they all defy the british and they they express their determination to use any means foul or fair. >> i only know the ones in ghana, but i suspect flower of scotland probably has something about planting bombs under the stone something. stone of scone or something. >> it's pronounced scone and we'll we'll move on we'll move on. we'll move on from that. so yeah, this was a range of proposals that had been floated by number in wake of floated by number 10 in wake of the state protests . okay. the arms state protests. okay. so i'm wondering then really, could flower? scott well, i suppose, but are they not just trying to do something that they didn't do with what they should have done something about, if you see what i mean? >> am wrong? to >> well, am i wrong? it seems to me they're probably me that they're probably introducing instrument me that they're probably intrc hoping instrument

me that they're probably intrchoping that instrument me that they're probably intrc hoping that the nstrument me that they're probably intrc hoping that the police ent me that they're probably intrc hoping that the police force and hoping that the police force can use spirit of the thing. can use the spirit of the thing. well, the examples don't. well, the examples i use don't. don't work with me because the suffragettes terrorists suffragettes were terrorists. nelson violent nelson mandela, violent communist and flower of scotland, hate scotland, as you say, hate speech. they work. but speech. so they don't work. but but why why can't they use but also why why can't they use existing laws? well, they certainly if it's lockdowns certainly can. if it's lockdowns or that was banned. so or the march that was banned. so to me, it's more they're trying to me, it's more they're trying to a law that works to find a law that works perfectly. thing perfectly. the other thing here is saying, well, if we is they're saying, well, if we need these laws to need to change these laws to deal these new this new deal with these new this new type of violent pro—hamas thing or but the real or whatever. but the real difficulty it's the difficulty is it's kind of the failure of liberalism because we have to differentiate. we have no way to differentiate. we should people who obviously between people who are obviously enemies country, we enemies of our country, but we can't do that with the philosophy of carl schmitt, the friend distinction. that's friend enemy distinction. that's what they need to get their head around. unfortunately what they need to get their head ar0ljustunfortunately what they need to get their head ar0ljust waiting|ately what they need to get their head ar0ljust waiting for ly what they need to get their head ar0ljust waiting for the has just waiting for the adjacencies as well. yes, i was waiting first obscure waiting for the first obscure political boiled down political questions boiled down to you know, and to friend enemy, you know, and do you see what i mean? disguise this with as you say, by making it based society. but it it a rules based society. but it isn't. ultimately sentiment isn't. it's ultimately sentiment based. we need based. that's it. and so we need to somehow encode law,

to somehow encode that into law, which i'll have to which is difficult. i'll have to read you read schmidt telegraph. you will? wikipedia could start will? wikipedia page could start telegraph making telegraph have the met making a commitment not be able to commitment to not be able to cope. commitment to not be able to cope . that's the latest met. oh cope. that's the latest met. oh yeah. i've got it in the mail but whichever it's this this one isn't it pro—palestinian marches every week until christmas. unsustainable yes warned unsustainable police yes warned met police federation chairman. anyway shouldn't it be warned? police warn met federation chairman they're warning him anyway. they're basically saying if there's going to be these marches until marches constantly until christmas, handle it. christmas, they can't handle it. and fair enough. they're and that's fair enough. they're saying handle it saying they can handle it occasionally. rick the occasionally. rick prior, the chairman of the met police federation, saying we can handle them occasionally. we've got the resources, every resources, but not for every week. a new week. and that's this is a new problem we've got. and they're really i mean, it's full on pro—palestinian marches. i would call anti—israel call a lot of them anti—israel marches. and it's the same problem, are there marches. and it's the same prgenuinely are there marches. and it's the same prgenuinely a are there marches. and it's the same prgenuinely a mix are there marches. and it's the same prgenuinely a mix of are there marches. and it's the same prgenuinely a mix of people re is genuinely a mix of people there. and don't want to get there. and i don't want to get sort swept up in the marches sort of swept up in the marches of think probably sort of swept up in the marches of of think probably sort of swept up in the marches of of the think probably sort of swept up in the marches of of the people1k probably sort of swept up in the marches of of the people there bably sort of swept up in the marches of of the people there babljust 90% of the people there are just horrified by the by the footage they're whether or not they're seeing, whether or not they're seeing, whether or not they should investigate bit they should investigate it a bit more, interrogate they're

more, interrogate what they're looking most people are don't think most people are going those marches because going on those marches because they and i do think they hate jews. and i do think that thing to that is a dangerous thing to peddle because , you peddle that idea because, you know, jews are feeling anxious enough without maybe exaggerating. a mixture , exaggerating. it's a mixture, like you say. but this is a problem we've got now. it's how do you deal with it? of course we're going to have a resource problem. we've got a load of people country hate people in the country who hate us. indoctrinated us. we've indoctrinated people in and universities to in schools and universities to hate the country. how hate the country. so now how do we it? yeah, we deal with it? yeah, absolutely. it does feel like an awful lot of chickens coming home one place, home to roost in one place, isn't what do think, isn't it? what do you think, bruce? about bruce? i'm still thinking about flow whether flow to scotland and whether that conceived be hate speech. >> no, really, i am. i'm going to lyrics. i do to google the lyrics. i do wonder you know, wonder whether, you know, i wonder whether, you know, i wonder how many people the centre football matches at the weekend. >> wonder they have >> i wonder whether they have what other roles have. what other roles they have. i mean, you never see police mean, you never see the police just mean, you never see the police jusyou? suppose these it's do you? so i suppose these it's all flood defences. but all just flood defences. but these bigger these marches just get bigger and bigger yeah. and bigger and bigger. yeah. well the daily mail now, bruce, esther mcvey's gap year doing work experience at gb news may be coming to an end.

>> yes, which i'm quite excited about because i'm going to apply for job. for a job. >> it'd be quite forajob. >> i think it'd be quite good at that. >> so it raises minister for >> so it raises new minister for common esther common sense. pm brings esther mcvey back to the cabinet. okay with her mission to combat wokery her an olive wokery as he offers her an olive branch to the tory right . esther branch to the tory right. esther mcvey is returning to cabinet and will be leaving her job here and will be leaving herjob here at gb news now, so do we consider her right wing? >> i wasn't that sure about that. i don't know. >> the one thing i will say about and i'm sorry, it's about her and i'm sorry, it's really shallow. i always think of here excellent. she of here is excellent. she obviously good obviously goes to a really good hairdresser. it's very hairdresser. i think it's very well cut. >> do you think that will satisfy the tory? >> right. i think that will satisfy right, because satisfy the tory, right, because i enjoy i don't think they enjoy splitting. however, recently i think people going be think people are going to be surprised at this appointment because show because she didn't show much common sense when she was tweeting what she saw. the tweeting about what she saw. the just stop oil protesters doing to the was it a painting by some spanish dude of cupid and venus? and she thought it was a was right. okay. the spanish. >> yeah. right. >> yeah. right. >> okay. yeah just basic for me. thank you . we know you're clever

thank you. we know you're clever , but she'd got that wrong and said , you know, what are they said, you know, what are they doing? insulting the suffragettes? but apparently the suffragettes had done a similar thing just oil. but in thing to just stop oil. but in 1914. so, i mean, she thought it had been painted by a suffragette, right? she suffragette, right? no, she thought thought depicted suffragette, right? no, she th0|suffragettesught depicted suffragette, right? no, she th0|suffragettes insteadiepicted suffragette, right? no, she th0|suffragettes instead of icted suffragette, right? no, she th0|suffragettes instead of thej venus. >> yeah. and it was . yes. >> yeah. and it was. yes. although actually the suffragette who who had originally attacked it was head of a fascist was another of a fascist party, was another wrinkle story. we wrinkle to that story. we covered it on here. but yeah, a good point. i mean, esther seems a i've only a very nice person. i've only heard great things about her, so it's sad she's leaving. gb this is role, but will it's sad she's leaving. gb this is able role, but will it's sad she's leaving. gb this is able to role, but will it's sad she's leaving. gb this is able to do 5, but will it's sad she's leaving. gb this is able to do anything? she be able to do anything? i mean, i wish her luck, but you know, suella had know, suella hasn't had much luck doing anything luck actually doing anything because against blob, because you're against the blob, aren't a sort of aren't you? it's a sort of anti—woke not anti—woke role, so it's not clear to what actual clear to me what the actual role is, happening is, but what's clearly happening is, but what's clearly happening is bit of a sop or olive is it's a bit of a sop or olive branch because they've sunak done got of done all these he's got rid of all you braverman all the, you know, braverman he's in cameron now he's he's brought in cameron now he's saying, anti—woke saying, i'm still anti—woke though. yeah, though. look at this. so yeah, i agree . very, unconvincing. agree. very, very unconvincing. that's two. done. part that's part two. done. part three. has greta met her match

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radio. and welcome back to headliners. >> so nick, we have a classic. let them fight moment as greta thunberg is accused of making things political in the times. yeah it's man grabs. greta thunberg's mic after pro—palestinian chants at rally. i don't know if we have the video, but i've watched it and he says, i came here for a climate demonstration, not a political view. apparently he's a the whole climate a bit new to the whole climate justice scene. does justice scene. what does he think? like aesthetic ? think? he's like an aesthetic? yeah, we do have a yeah, just yeah, we do have a bit of video, apparently. oh, good. let's see. let's have a look. >> you have been listening look. >>thej have been listening look. >>the people been listening look. >>the people in been listening look. >>the people in power. istening look. >>the people in power. have 1g look. >>the people in power. have not to the people in power. have not been listening. >> come for here a climate >> i come for here a climate demonstration, political demonstration, not a political view .

view. >> this is time for calm down. >> this is time for calm down. >> calm down. calm . down calm down. >> that's the new. how dare you calm down, dear. he had that. he had that. he had that dutch bluntness. he's like the way he approached was kind of approached her was kind of weirdly zombie, weirdly like zombie, like aggressive. just kind of came for completely for him. but he was completely right. i mean, you go there, you just want to talk about all your climate about israel because banging on about israel because it together. it all goes together. palestinian yeah, palestinian flags, right? yeah, yeah, weird yeah, yeah. but it's this weird way. together. you way. it all goes together. you have the full suite of have to have the full suite of views and it always ends up with dismantling views and it always ends up with dismantli|and he's like, i just end of it. and he's like, i just want to talk about the trees and the water levels whatever the water levels and whatever it is, pumps. doesn't want is, heat pumps. he doesn't want to talk about israel. no. well, you be you shouldn't be expected to be a part of coalition you're a part of that coalition you're right. it does seem right. and yet it does seem extraordinary these extraordinary how many of these things diagram is just things the venn diagram is just a line, isn't a slightly blurry line, isn't it, at the edges? the it, at the edges? yeah, but the thing that he got up thing is, the way that he got up on stage, look, i'm not defending anyone here, but the way it was way he got up on stage, it was almost was kind of

almost as though it was kind of set up. >> and it's a bit like you know, you're much older than her. why are like, i thought she did. are you like, i thought she did. well, there because are you like, i thought she did. wellmust there because are you like, i thought she did. wellmust tiquiteecause are you like, i thought she did. wellmust tiquite scary.3 that must have been quite scary. >> is. she did to >> she is. she did do well to our own. she's 21 now or our own. but she's 21 now or something. she's no longer a child. also, was always child. and also, it was always intentionally infuriating when she were she was a child that you were supposed her pay supposed to listen to her pay attention respect her attention to her and respect her views and also not criticise her because just a child. that because she's just a child. that was unmistakeably foul was such an unmistakeably foul power her handlers. power play by her handlers. i'm quite happy to see her bundled off stage now by an angry scrum off stage now by an angry scrum of furious middle aged men. okay, i wouldn't i personally wouldn't go that far, but i do remember being remember remember being i do remember being i saw her on being appalled when i saw her on a train sandwiches a train with sandwiches and plastic things, bags of crisps and all that kind of stuff. >> and you're like, oh, hey, then there was the whole octopus. >> this good signs that she suffering and becoming quite sort and sort of healthy and human and has humour. she has a sense of humour. and she has. the octopus? has. what about the octopus? simon became octopus simon became an octopus was an unfortunate possibly unfortunate mistake or possibly placed who placed there by somebody who would he says would know, but which he says here that it goes without resemble i'm saying resemble gerbils. i'm not saying

octopus was deliberate, but she says saying or says it goes without saying or so i'm against so i thought that i'm against the attacks hamas. so i thought that i'm against the the attacks hamas. so i thought that i'm against the the problem ks hamas. so i thought that i'm against the the problem is hamas. so i thought that i'm against the the problem is manymas. so i thought that i'm against the the problem is many on;. so i thought that i'm against the the problem is many on the but the problem is many on the left, doesn't go without left, it doesn't go without saying, you're against saying, oh, well, you're against them believe they them if you even believe they happen. bruce, happen. daily mail now, bruce, for malarkey and for more net zero malarkey and the revelation there are the revelation that there are such as noise expert such things as noise expert shirts, is trope shirts, which is a trope i reckon could do well, yes. reckon i could do well, yes. >> is noise. experts >> so this is noise. experts tell government cooler on tell the government cooler on heat new study heat pumps after a new study suggests could be too suggests that they could be too loud of homes. loud for millions of homes. first all, do you get them in first of all, do you get them in flats? can you have in flats? can you have them in flats? can you have them in flats? to have flats? are you you have to have them. to go from your them. they have to go from your home down into the belly of the earth. >> they go hundreds of metres underground. they're >> they go hundreds of metres underg there. they're >> they go hundreds of metres undergthere could they're >> they go hundreds of metres underg there could be they're >> they go hundreds of metres undergthere could be 5ey're >> they go hundreds of metres undergthere could be 5 or re in saying there could be 5 or 6 in a block that's part a terraced block and that's part of they're talking a terraced block and that's part of yeah, they're talking a terraced block and that's part of yeah, they ey're talking a terraced block and that's part of yeah, they hum. :alking a terraced block and that's part of yeah, they hum. and1g about. yeah, they hum. and they'd come together and they'd all come together and that would whole other that would be a whole other level noise. shop, level of noise. barber shop, quartette level of noise. barber shop, que butte thing the >> but the thing about the humming that the hum between humming is that the hum between 42 that frog paul 42 is that the frog song by paul mccartney because it's coming up for time of year, it? for that time of year, isn't it? 40 but what they are 40 to 60db. but what they are saying is the level of this noise is similar to that made of your average freezer or your average fridge freezer or dishwasher. so is it really a

problem? >> so that would be all right. 72 in the garden? i don't 72 in the back garden? i don't know. it would be because if i if i move houses, my new house, the like next to my the balcony, like next to my bedroom, a heat bedroom, if they've got a heat pump reason, pump out there for some reason, i'm why it's outside. i'm not sure why it's outside. it's not bad as a hedge it's not as bad as a hedge trimmer. going to trimmer. i think it's going to be in built up be a nightmare in built up places. you're out in the sticks in brighton or whatever. well, places. you're out in the sticks in iare hton or whatever. well, places. you're out in the sticks in iare hton orsuburban. well, places. you're out in the sticks in iare hton orsuburban garden we are to the suburban garden land itis we are to the suburban garden land it is annoying land and it is annoying if anyone on a very anyone has anything on a very long. admit it's going long. i have to admit it's going to be nightmare. don't to be a nightmare. they don't they're going work and they're not going to work and they're not going to work and they're going to be really loud and awful and expensive. they're going to be really loud ancit'sful and expensive. they're going to be really loud anc it's terrible expensive. they're going to be really loud ancit's terrible expensive. >> it's terrible expensive. but it's car it's a bit like the electric car thing they're not thing as well. they're not necessarily environmentally thing as well. they're not necessarily ewouldmentally thing as well. they're not necessarily would think lly friendly as you would think because it something to do because is it something to do with in the battery? and with what's in the battery? and they take can't break down they take they can't break down and kind of stuff. and all that kind of stuff. >> oh, they're terribly compromised and they require all loads telegraph. nick loads of petrol telegraph. nick and has and endometriosis, charity has hired but hired a woman with a view, but no yes appointment womb no womb. yes appointment womb with a view. a womb with a view. i think i'll get it home. i'll laugh later on. on the repeat appointment trans woman appointment of trans woman as boss charity worrying boss of womb charity worrying and insulting. and this steph and insulting. and this is steph richards, who's kind of richards, who's a kind of

annoying bloke who's twitter annoying bloke who's on twitter annoying bloke who's on twitter a and under a labour a lot. and under a labour government be illegal government that would be illegal what said, but i'm not what i just said, but i'm not sure get away with it now. sure if i get away with it now. but deaf has his so but this deaf person has his so his endometriosis south coast, they've appointed this steph richards character and, and steph richards in the past has said that puberty blockers are not dangerous for children and are reversible, which is obviously complete nonsense and dangerous lie . and is also said, dangerous lie. and is also said, by man woman and by the way, that man woman and wait it child are social wait for it child are social constructs. now when someone starts telling me a child is a social construct, i say red flag , back away. danger, danger. so yeah, very questionable person. i would say to be doing this job and obviously an insult to women is the obvious point also massive insult but he she whatever is 70 years of age it doesn't feel like that's like an appointment with much of a future like this is you know what i mean? it feels like it's the sort of age at which you make somebody the patron of something. possibly. but i mean, make somebody the patron of soryou ing. possibly. but i mean, make somebody the patron of soryou know ossibly. but i mean, make somebody the patron of soryou know what.y. but i mean, make somebody the patron of soryou know what.y.mean?nean, do you know what i mean? >> maybe they've taken a leaf

out book, then. out of biden's book, then. >> i guess that's so. >> yeah, i guess that's so. i don't to me like don't know. it feels to me like this deliberately provocative. you wonder sometimes, you, this deliberately provocative. you won these metimes, you, this deliberately provocative. you won these charities you, this deliberately provocative. you won these charities just you, this deliberately provocative. you vt0|these charities just you, this deliberately provocative. you vto get se charities just you, this deliberately provocative. you vto get selittle ties just you, this deliberately provocative. you vto get selittle ties of st you, want to get a little bit of extra column which extra column inches, which they will now create in the daily telegraph or whatever because people with people will be angry with them, but they'll but otherwise they'll just be ignored. it's ignored. do you think it's political? simon, is political? well, simon, it is transgender awareness week. sadiq today sadiq khan has said today so i think that we're think it is apt that we're making more making this story, making more people but people aware of the story. but we'll know even in the article that the telegraph struggle, we'll know even in the article that changed|raph struggle, we'll know even in the article that changed between ggle, we'll know even in the article that changed between shee, we'll know even in the article that changed between she and they changed between she and they changed between she and they if you notice they pronouns. if you notice this pronoun, no one can actually no you can't actually do it. no you can't stick it at all. well, stick to it at all. well, i totally agree with you about saying children are social construct. gender is construct. you know, gender is one thing but age. matt times now, to helping now, bruce the key to helping working class kids succeed in school is teaching them about p0p school is teaching them about pop lyrics and heroine sorted so pupils should celebrate working class culture experts say. >> the authors suggest pupils study billy elliot and trainspotting , as well as dolly trainspotting, as well as dolly parton and charles dickens to celebrate working class culture at the same time as developing the kind of vocabulary that's

taughtin the kind of vocabulary that's taught in private schools. so there's quite a lot to unpack there, a lot going on. so there's this new book, right, called working class room. >> they've written these lads andifs >> they've written these lads and it's like a teacher's guide, but they're saying that, yeah, you should still learn all the posh stuff, but you should celebrate the working class culture celebrate the working class cultyeah, but then are you >> yeah, but then are you celebrating everything or celebrating everything else or are just focusing those are you just focusing on those two exactly. are you just focusing on those two it's exactly. are you just focusing on those two it's a exactly. are you just focusing on those two it's a question.'. >> it's a question. >> it's a question. >> is much time. >> is much time. >> have you got? isn't it? i mean, there isn't even really a culture class, is there? are they talking about english literature or music? i mean, where learn about literature or music? i mean, whereparton? learn about literature or music? i mean, where parton? what am about literature or music? i mean, where parton? what class)out literature or music? i mean, where parton? what class would dolly parton? what class would that fit into? dolly parton? what class would tha ifit into? you mean. okay. >> i see what you mean. okay. one, >> i see what you mean. okay. oneyeah . she's working >> yeah. she's not working class, particular? class, is she? particular? there's more. there's much more. >> was. she came she herself. >> but you know, it's not working not well working class culture not well i think succession to think her succession to superstardom is something to do with working class culture because she came from an incredibly background. incredibly poor background. >> and also she's really instrumental a reading instrumental in a reading campaign those impoverished campaign for those impoverished children . yeah, she children in america. yeah, she puts a lot of money into that , puts a lot of money into that, doesn't decry her. >> much problem >> it's a much bigger problem here, that they're

here, which is that they're saying smoke saying that meritocracy is smoke and they're saying and mirrors. and they're saying that mobility doesn't . it that social mobility doesn't. it sort of takes you away from your working class roots. but meritocracy works perfectly well , we the , especially when we had the grammar meant all grammar schools, which meant all kinds of people could could transcend working class transcend their working class background and we got rid of them. how background and we got rid of theithey how background and we got rid of theithey to how background and we got rid of theithey to cope how background and we got rid of theithey to cope with how background and we got rid of theithey to cope with asiow are they going to cope with as it says here, white working class of the class boys are some of the lowest achievers at school and they're but they're lowest achievers at school and they'rwords but they're lowest achievers at school and they'rwords like but they're lowest achievers at school and they'rwords like equity they're lowest achievers at school and they'rwords like equity and"re using words like equity and they're saying meritocracy doesn't very doesn't work. so they sound very woke. are woke. so my question is, how are they tackle the taboo woke. so my question is, how are th

same way, to be honest, that upper class guy, me hunting, nobody teaches hunting, they? nobody teaches hunting, do they? people manners, you people don't teach manners, you know, eton . but know, probably the eton. but it's just people behave to it's just how people behave to let hair isn't it? let their hair down, isn't it? it's idea is that, you it's not the idea is that, you know, good literature is not a class divide thing. it's a thing that you have to apply your brain to unpick it brain to in order to unpick it a little bit. so almost as if little bit. so it's almost as if one's taught. kind of one's being taught. it's kind of ossified and can't possibly one's being taught. it's kind of ossaszd and can't possibly one's being taught. it's kind of ossas spontaneoust possibly of be as spontaneous expression of the yeah anyway, nick, the culture. yeah anyway, nick, is what meant ? trust? is that what you meant? trust? yes. i think that really yes. no, i think that really broadly, on the same page, national trust not to be trusted with holidays. is national trust not to be trusted wi'the holidays. is national trust not to be trusted wi'the expressiolidays. is national trust not to be trusted wi'the express .>lidays. is national trust not to be trusted wi'the express . yes. (s. is national trust not to be trusted wi'the express . yes. christmas in the express. yes. christmas and easter excluded from national trust's inclusion calendar . quite national trust's inclusion calendar. quite ironic headline from the express and express quoting the telegraph. weirdly, they should just do their own journalism. so they're saying, to according the telegraph, because good because they're not as good a paper for a calendar. the calendar reportedly features ramada and eid, but not ramada diwali and eid, but not christian festivals such as christmas and easter. and the absurd explanation for this from the national trust is that they want to appeal to everyone rather minority. so they

rather than a minority. so they got christians got rid of christians and the and of i think and the majority of i think what's happening is quite difficult. read this story in difficult. i read this story in two papers. i think two different papers. i think what's calendar what's happened is this calendar is actually something that's made national made available to national trust staff can see other staff so that they can see other holidays that they could be celebrating, whereas easter and christmas celebrated. christmas are always celebrated. that's understood. their that's understood. that's their argument. internal argument. yeah, it's internal guidance. like you can buy a nice calendar the nice new calendar in the national shop and it's got national trust shop and it's got all fancy foreign holidays all those fancy foreign holidays on not good old easter on it, but not good old easter and uke on it, but not good old easter and like a and christmas. it's not like a kitchen calendar. it's like it's like their calendar that the staff. yeah. is that better? i mean, say the national mean, they say the national trust everyone, trust is for everyone, but not not a christian. three not if you're a christian. three down, to go. the final down, one to go. the final section sees classroom banter , section sees classroom banter, stone age parenting and why turtles have given up on boys as well. it's all going swimmingly. we'll see you a couple

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do it on air again. bruce daily star news of banter phobia in uk schools . schools. >> all of which says, i agree with your confession. now, teachers are scared of banter in uk schools are sharing jokes with students clamped down. school teachers are worried that banter with their students being a serious problem after a bullying survey drew a fine line between what could and not be said in the classroom. banter is a serious problem in schools, say 1 in 4 teachers now they don't cite any examples of the banter , but apparently it's a banter, but apparently it's a problem . problem. >> we just know that it can. well, everything can change, can't it? as aristotle said, the path of virtue is always walked between two abysses. i was going to say side, you know, but they do want banter is between the abyss of bullying on one side and banality on the other. well, you're quoting victoria beckham in the break. but when the cameras roll, it goes to aristotle , just turns it on aristotle, just turns it on flips the switch. different person, 84% of teachers said they've received no training on

how to deal with banter , which how to deal with banter, which is a word i really hate, actually, to avoid ending up like bannau cheeky. >> i mean, what is that? honestly? >> but you shouldn't, you know what? shouldn't have banter what? you shouldn't have banter in . but a in classrooms. but there's a time and for is in time and place for banter is in the changing room on the football the locker the changing room on the footb'banter the locker the changing room on the footb'banter is the locker the changing room on the footb'banter is not|e locker the changing room on the footb'banter is not between room banter is not between somebody who has authority and somebody who has authority and somebody who has authority and somebody who doesn't know if a teacher is intervening because they think they're seeing bullying and the pupils go, no, that's just banter, miss. then the has try and judge the teacher has to try and judge from perception of the from the perception of the victim. i think banter is helpful. it keeps, you know, it stops the ice forming. but on the hand , bullying is, you the other hand, bullying is, you know, it is genuine psychological bullying, hard disagree . simon you like disagree. simon you like bullying? no, i like banter because we had it at school. our teachers said things you could never in 2023 any never say in 2023 in any context. was fun. oh, you context. and it was fun. oh, you think teachers could banter? they able to ban it? they should be able to ban it? yeah. and problem is now yeah. and the problem is now it's anti man. of it's it's an anti man. of course it's woke, but anti man i've woke, but it's an anti man i've just thrown in woke but a just thrown in woke but it's a general environment general anti man environment because so i think

because men banter so i think the on is an the attack on banter is an attack men. don't think attack on men. but i don't think teachers gossip teachers should gossip or ehhen teachers should gossip or either. why? mean either. why why? well, i mean you're anti you're just saying it's anti men, know, saying men, you know, i'm just saying it's anti men. it's also just this ridiculous eggshell society we able to we have. we should be able to banter in the classroom. it's just it depends on just fun. i mean, it depends on the school better. i can't remember teachers remember any class, any teachers that were good at banter. i remember of them were quite remember some of them were quite good of wit good at sort of rapier wit putdowns. did you say putdowns. if you did you say rapier. in thin rapier. rapier as in the thin wibbly blade. remember certain wibbly blade. i remember certain teachers we had. it was often you know, because i joined a comprehensive school in its second year of intake. the previous eight years or whatever had been grammar school. so most of the boys there and most of the masters were all of grammar school culture. and gradually , school culture. and gradually, as school as the comprehensive school intake worked its way through, it much. you pulled it it became much. you pulled it down. yeah, it was lowest common denominator, but so you know the kind of. yeah, the conversation, the bad inaya changed somewhat. it changed from badinage to banter. probably when the people came rapier badinage rapier

naked takes a village to raise a child. it seems this was once actually practised . yeah, it's actually practised. yeah, it's stone age babies received better parenting. studies suggest and it's they've based this on a semi—nomadic tribe. and you've nicked my job. i was going to say it takes a semi nomadic tribe to raise a child and that was all i had on this so i'm in trouble but thank you. cheers. but hillary clinton hovered over that book title. does it say anyway, cambridge university that book title. does it say anywstudiedbridge university that book title. does it say anyw studied the ge university that book title. does it say anyw studied the bengalersity that book title. does it say anyw studied the bengal bayaka that book title. does it say anywstudied the bengal bayaka , have studied the bengal bayaka, let's say tribe who were in the democratic republic of congo. to me, it's a bit of an insult saying, well, we can figure out what it'd been like in the stone age. and study these guys, age. and if we study these guys, i would be quite i think they would be quite insulted maybe they insulted because maybe they don't of themselves don't think of themselves as stone it's saying that stone age. but it's saying that it insight into it gives us an insight into how it gives us an insight into how it been it it might have been and it basically that saying, basically that it's saying, yeah, it was shared between ten have you haven't raised children? i don't have you haven't raised child itn? i don't have you haven't raised child it against i don't have you haven't raised child it against you i don't have you haven't raised child it against you and i don't have you haven't raised child it against you and ii don't have you haven't raised child it against you and i hopet hold it against you and i hope you get the opportunity some time. but i have say it is time. but i have to say it is hard and really genuinely hard work and i really genuinely do feel this exactly the do feel this is exactly why the nuclear idea

nuclear family model, the idea that just like a mother that you have just like a mother and father locked in a house and a father locked in a house desperately trying cope desperately trying to cope with a old a screaming six month year old entity, dysfunctional entity, is so dysfunctional compared to the, you know, just get it out in the middle of the village and let everyone ever go. do know i haven't go. how do you know i haven't raised children in that context? it takes ten members of it says it takes ten members of the maybe i've been the group. maybe i've just been raising part raising various children as part of group. raising various children as part of grcthinking now is that >> i'm thinking now is that communes and throuples are based on thing. that's the on this thing. that's the molecules. molecules that we think they're progressive. >> they're actually stone age. think they're progressive. >> tiyeah, actually stone age. think they're progressive. >> tiyeah, allrally stone age. think they're progressive. >> tiyeah, all the' stone age. think they're progressive. >> tiyeah, all the womenige. think they're progressive. >> tiyeah, all the women have well, yeah, all the women have to the hut at the end of to go to the hut at the end of the garden. do they need the garden. yeah. do they need the garden. yeah. do they need the toilet they're the toilet when they're in sanitary. it's bringing it all back. sanitary. it's bringing it all back . bruce we got alex jones back. bruce we got alex jones now. alex jones was right there turning the turtles . i now. alex jones was right there turning the turtles. i think this was one of alex jones's, wasn't it? turning the frickin frog. >> alex jones from the one show? >> alex jones from the one show? >> no. alex jones from the infowars famously said, turning the gay. that's what he's the frogs gay. that's what he's on in the on about. there's things in the water days. water supply these days. >> homophobia is off scale . >> homophobia is off the scale. i'm it's too much for you i'm sorry. it's too much for you about simon. ehm, climate change

makes green turtles increasingly feel male. the warmer sand in which green turtles bury their eggs means that it's more likely that the egg is to hatch. female so i wonder if that's a thing that human mothers can do as well. >> well, my sister in law has to have that. >> she loves an electric blanket and she has the heating on constantly and she had three girls no, she had and girls no, she had a boy and a girl. the girl was the first girl. but the girl was the first one. maybe that she's the one. so maybe that she's the more dominant. one. so maybe that she's the mo maybe nant. one. so maybe that she's the mo maybe it'st. one. so maybe that she's the mo maybe it's only the soft >> maybe it's only the soft shelled that this shelled egg species that this works shelled egg species that this work don't know. apparently >> i don't know. but apparently that's happening. >> i don't know. but apparently tha we happening. >> i don't know. but apparently thawe love happening. >> i don't know. but apparently tha we love the ppening. >> i don't know. but apparently tha we love the turtles. . >> i don't know. but apparently tha we love the turtles.. don't >> we love the turtles. we don't want them die. yeah, want to see them die. yeah, let's males are now let's see. the males are now down to one. it's 100 to 1, female imagine being female to male. imagine being the mean , people used to the one. i mean, people used to say, oh, they're at say, oh, they're going at university because there's more women imagine women at that one. i imagine there's females to one there's 100 females to one nottingham. that one turtle is smashing i mean, they're smashing it. i mean, they're going but he'll going to go extinct, but he'll have time. have a great time. >> thing. >> but that's the thing. >> but that's the thing. >> the thing you do. it's >> that's the thing you do. it's the way around if it's the best way around if it's going because you do going to happen because you do only need one turtle to fertilise. a hundred females, only need one turtle to fertilisthe hundred females, only need one turtle to fertilisthe hundi'vefemales, only need one turtle to fertilisthe hundi've always., only need one turtle to fertilbulla hundi've always., only need one turtle to fertilbull the|nd|'ve always.,

only need one turtle to fertilbull the bull/e always., only need one turtle to fertilbull the bull/e alwajratio said bull the bull to cow ratio on the farm, isn't it? it's roughly 1 to 100. you breed turtles? yeah now no. turtles? yeah good news. now no. nick for those nick in the guardian. for those of us want to change our of us who want to change our hair, clothes, face, hair, our clothes, our face, artificial more . more artificial faces, more. more realistic than real ones. oh, that was a bruce springsteen reference. i got it on the same page again. white faces generated by ai are more convincing than finds convincing than photos finds studies . so they showed a load studies. so they showed a load of eyes. people and it was 66% of eyes. people and it was 66% of i images were rated as human, compared to 51% of real images. so so they actually got it wrong . have you seen these images , . have you seen these images, though? you know the ones i mean, you go to like this face doesn't exist.com there's loads of websites out there they create. yeah i checked them out and looked them before. and i've looked at them before. they obviously they are just obviously so realistic . it's ridiculous. realistic. it's ridiculous. they're not like, you know , you they're not like, you know, you see images sometimes , you see eye images sometimes, you know, like fantasy art or whatever. it's obviously created . it can be, you know, interesting or whatever. but but no, these are so believable. it's extraordinary . well, that's it's extraordinary. well, that's why they thought they were real

when they weren't even more so than faces. but not for than real faces. but not for people of colour where it was 51% both. it didn't 51% for both. and it didn't matter the matter who which face the participant was . so for some participant was. so for some reason people be faked reason white people can be faked . yeah. more convincingly . reason white people can be faked . yeah. more convincingly. i wonder i do sometimes think wonder if i do sometimes think this in my self—loathing phases that white skin shows blemishes more, possibly when it's in photography. that sort of thing. and i wonder whether i eliminate those blemishes because it likes to be kind . and so you end up to be kind. and so you end up looking sort of slightly made up for the picture. whereas if you're picture you you're not, i can't picture you having loathing face. having a self loathing face. yeah, a blemish my yeah, i've got a blemish on my face days. on, bruce. face these days. go on, bruce. i was just saying. >> what say is that not the same as airbrushing? >> slightly. yeah. but >> yeah, slightly. yeah. but have a look if you have a look at them if you haven't them. are haven't seen them. they are extraordinary. does extraordinary. this face does not .com finally, bruce, not exist. .com finally, bruce, an the mail that is sure an app in the mail that is sure to settle household disputes once and for all. >> yes, it's chore calculator >> yes, it's a chore calculator and help you find out and this will help you find out who's pulling their who's really pulling their weight your household weight in your household or relationship. couples argue relationship. most couples argue over biggest over who's completed the biggest amount a new amount of chores, but a new calculator to help

calculator aims to help partners. finally settle the debate. do you want my advice? get a cleaner? >> yes, a cleaner is a good investment. also, course, >> yes, a cleaner is a good ingoodfent. also, course, >> yes, a cleaner is a good ingood way also, course, >> yes, a cleaner is a good ingood way of also, course, >> yes, a cleaner is a good ingood way of distributing ourse, a good way of distributing wealth the to the needy and wealth to the to the needy and also actually, if you a also actually, if you pick a good it become one of good one, it can become one of your more meaningful and satisfying relations tips. i think that we think it's been a way that we actually to sort of actually started to sort of connect with the community a bit when moved to brighton. when we moved to brighton. through having through what? through having cleaners, know, 2 or 3 cleaners, you know, 2 or 3 cleaners, you know, 2 or 3 cleaners that my wife really cleaners that my wife is really genuinely very good being genuinely very good at being nice to them and finding out if they've got kids and would like a jumper that edward no longer uses and that we actually said what called. it's what the app is called. it's called load. did you called share the load. did you say don't know if we're say that? i don't know if we're allowed do it. allowed to obviously do it. anyway, tell you the anyway, i will tell you the obviously exactly obviously it's exactly the way that you get with kids and cake one cuts one chooses so you one person chores one cuts one chooses so you one pers�*need chores one cuts one chooses so you one pers�*need doing chores one cuts one chooses so you one pers�*need doing that chores one cuts one chooses so you one pers�*need doing that week hores one cuts one chooses so you one pers�*need doing that week ands that need doing that week and then into two halves then then into two halves and then then into two halves and then the other one gets to choose which want to do. men which half they want to do. men men do housework men shouldn't do housework presuming the bread, doing all winning all the bread, doing all the. absolutely. that's the. absolutely. so that's a big assumption. the. absolutely. so that's a big assurlet's 1. the. absolutely. so that's a big assurlet's take another quick over. let's take another quick look at tuesday's front pages as

daily mail reaches big throw of the dice telegraph . cameron's the dice telegraph. cameron's return sparks brexit clash. guardian cameron . shock return guardian cameron. shock return in high stakes reshuffle shuffle times sunak brings cameron back from the wilderness i news back to the future pm gambles on return of david cameron and finally the daily star rise of the slapheads. that's the largest latest propaganda release from big boffin. that's all we have time for. thank you to my guests, bruce devlin and nick dixon. i am back tomorrow at 11 pm. with leo kearse and josh howie. if you're watching at 5 am, stay tuned for breakfast. but if that's it, it's the end of the day. you've got five hours off now before gb news resumes broadcasting. i hope you enjoyed a good night's

>> goodbye . and a very good >> goodbye. and a very good evening, everybody. tonight it is a two hour farage special . is a two hour farage special. where is nigel? we'll be telling you shortly. but for the next two hours, we have a huge show on a massive, massive day. we've got gb news political editor christopher hope and of course, the mp for somerset, jacob rees—mogg. what a day . what rees—mogg. what a day. what news? who could have believed it ? the return of who ? david? no, ? the return of who? david? no, sorry, lord david cameron how does that sound to you? the demolition, the removal of suella braverman many will be upset about that. and then where is nigel? well, news is breaking where nigel is. you know, the referendum was a long time ago . referendum was a long time ago. >> there are a lot of young people out there. don't know who i am. don't know what i stand for. this is my big chance to reach a really big audience of

young people, which i think will be good for me and i think also very good for gb news as well . very good for gb news as well. >> hard to reach a bigger audience surely, than gb news, but we'll get into that later. first of all, folks, it's the news with polly middlehurst . news with polly middlehurst. well, the top story this hour, it's been a day of reappointments and surprises in downing street today. >> the prime minister saying the new cabinet is built and it is a unhed new cabinet is built and it is a united team. well, gb news presenter and former housing minister esther mcvey was seen walking into downing street this evening. and since then we have learned she has been appointed to cabinet as minister without portfolio, the so—called minister for common sense is what is being suggested about her role . meanwhile, victoria her role. meanwhile, victoria atkins is the new health secretary. she replaces steve barclay, who takes environment while laura trott steps in as

treasury chief secretary, but