so the british people and basically being too weak to even make a decision, preferring instead to be liked , not really instead to be liked, not really sure how well that last one is working out for him, but let me tell you, if that was not a big enough bomb into number 10 itself, stop there itself, it doesn't stop there because so—called new because the so—called new conservatives, the likes of pretty redwood, iain pretty patel, john redwood, iain duncan miriam cates, duncan smith, miriam cates, etcetera, too have written etcetera, they too have written an open letter accusing rishi, i quote of abandoning the voters who switched to them last time . who switched to them last time. yes, ladies and gents, as i said, the gloves are off. we'll be getting into all of that and getting stuck into some robust

debate. i can tell you again, my panel have very different opinions. what does this all mean for the tories.7 can they actually change course.7 has this ship basically sold its last voyage?| ship basically sold its last voyage? i want your thoughts on it all. but before we get into it, let's cross live for tonight's latest headlines as. michelle. >> thank you and good evening to you. well, in an astonishing rebuke following her sacking as home secretary yesterday, suella braverman has today accused the prime minister of having manifestly and repeated failed to deliver on key government policies, adding that he has been uncertain. week and lacking in the leadership qualities that the country needs. in a letter posted on social media this afternoon, suella braverman said rishi sunaks distinctive style of government meant he's incapable of keeping the promises he made as she supported his leadership bid originally , ms braverman accused

originally, ms braverman accused rishi sunak of a betrayal of his promise to do whatever it took to stop small boat crossings by failing to override human rights. concerns about the rwanda plan. she also urged the prime minister to change course , prime minister to change course, urgently telling him he'd led the conservatives to record election defeats and that his resets had failed and that we are running out of time . and are running out of time. and that letter from suella braverman breaking this afternoon full discussion on that coming up in michelle's programme shortly. well in other news today, the uk has announced sanctions against four hamas leaders and two of the terror group's finance year. that's one of david cameron's first moves as foreign secretary since he got the job yesterday . they'll got the job yesterday. they'll be made subject to travel bans, asset freezes and arms embargoes that prohibit the sale of weapons to any of the individuals. the foreign office says the action is coordinated with the united states aimed at disrupting operations, even if the leaders are pulling strings from outside of gaza. meanwhile

today, the us president says he believes the release of israeli hostages will happen soon. he was speaking at the white house this afternoon. joe biden saying hangin this afternoon. joe biden saying hang in there, we're coming . hang in there, we're coming. meanwhile, in other news today , meanwhile, in other news today, a man has been arrested on suspicion of manslaughter following the death of nottingham panthers ice hockey player adam johnson . mrjohnson player adam johnson. mr johnson was seriously injured during a game against the sheffield steelers . he later died at steelers. he later died at hospital as a result of a fatal neck injury . job losses and neck injury. job losses and pharmacy article giant pfizer is planning to cut around 500 jobs at its site in kent. the plans will impact the site in sandwich , with operations set to continue at what the company is describing as a different scale. it comes as the company hopes to reduce its running costs. it also plans to stop small molecule operations at the site. that site currently employing

around 940 people. exam results could be disrupted next year after the scottish qualifications authority staff voted for strike action in a dispute over pay. the unite union says its members have backed strike for action a second year running after being offered what they called an entirely unacceptable two year pay entirely unacceptable two year pay offer for 2023 and 24. hundreds of unite members backed strike action by 72% on an 80% turnout at. and lastly, his majesty , the king is hosting majesty, the king is hosting a reception for nhs staff at buckingham palace this evening. all part of his 75th birthday. celebrate today. it comes as the nhs is also marking its 75th anniversary with 400 nurses and midwives set to attend the royal event. earlier the monarch travelled to oxfordshire to launch the coronation food project alongside queen camilla. co—chair of the project, dame martina milburn , said the king martina milburn, said the king is committed to bridging the gap

between food waste and food need and for a long time he has been very worried about the cost of living crisis on families in particular for and he's also always been passionate about trying to reduce surplus waste and things like that. >> so he simply wondered if there was a way of putting the two things together . two things together. >> gb news across the uk on tv in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news. this is britain's news channel . thanks polly. >> our michelle dewberry with you till 7:00 tonight alongside me , a cracking panel to get me, a cracking panel to get stuck into the events yet again of the day. i said to you yesterday, didn't i? never a dull day in politics that continues again tonight , our continues again tonight, our consultant alex dean and the contributing editor at novara media , michael walker. good

media, michael walker. good evening. good evening to you. you know, the drill as well. it's not just about us. it's very much about you guys at home. wonder what is possibly home. i wonder what is possibly on your mind tonight. gb views a gbnews.com is how you get a hold of me. or you can tweet me at gb news. i can tell you now my inboxis news. i can tell you now my inbox is already on fire. it's only about 6:05 o'clock. tell me , you know what? i want to get stuck straight into the suella braverman situation. i want all of thoughts that. she of your thoughts on that. she has published her resignation letter and let me tell you now, it is an absolute corker. she does not hold back. she does not mince her words and she does not spare sunak any punches. i can tell you. let's cross live to our political correspondent, katherine forster. she will bnng katherine forster. she will bring us up to speed. good evening, catherine, to you . evening, catherine, to you. >> good evening, michelle. yes, we've spent a day and a half obsessing about the return of david cameron suella braverman , david cameron suella braverman, whose sacking took a back seat

comparatively to that. but when she was sacked over the phone by rishi sunak yesterday morning, as she was expected thing, there was no exchange of letters at the time, which was highly unusual, she said. it had been the honour of her life, but she would say more in due course and in the last couple of hours, my goodness, has she said more? we've had a two and a half page, incredibly scathing letter to rishi sunak and the top line being your plan is not working . being your plan is not working. we have endured record election defeats. your reset have failed, and we are running out of time. you need to change course urgently . that's her central urgently. that's her central message . and one of the most message. and one of the most damning lines as far as i can see, is she said, you've manifestly and repeat oddly failed to deliver on every

single one of these key policy policies that he and she she said , had agreed. either your said, had agreed. either your distinctive style of government means you are incapable of doing so, or, as i'm a surely conclude now , you never had any intention now, you never had any intention an of keeping your promises. honestly i've never read anything like it from number 10. there's been a brief reply, very brief , not really there's been a brief reply, very brief, not really engaging and just pointing out that he wants to be judged by actions, not words. he's pleased that the number of boat crossings is down by a third this year and they will continue their work. whatever the ruling on rwanda tomorrow and thanking her for her service . now, rishi sunak her service. now, rishi sunak knew when he did this deal with suella braverman basically to become prime minister because her support was absolutely critical. well, a year ago, after liz truss's government imploded and she suella braverman had been sacked then

rishi sunak brought her back to the same job. now rishi sunak knew that if he let suella go, that would open a whole world of pain for him on the right of the party. he got to the point that he felt he had no choice. he's tried to have this big reset there, 20 points behind in the polls. they desperately need to do something to shift the dial . do something to shift the dial. but oh my goodness, he seems to have reignited yet again a civil war within the conservative party. and for labour over this infighting is just the gift that keeps on giving. isaac levido the tory election strategist wokeist has repeatedly stressed to them that they've only got any hope of winning and they don't have much hope. let's face it, if they can put on a united front and we seem a very, very long way from that tonight. >> catherine, thank you very much for bringing us up to speed. one of my viewers, andy,

has just got in touch and he says no matter what political party, anybody supports, he says, i'm sure everybody wants a government of competence, honesty and integrity. he says, surely now, even the most ardent conservative must see that we're all being ill served by a divided , visionless party, which divided, visionless party, which is busy fighting itself rather than serving the best interests of the country and its voters . of the country and its voters. so i shall put that to you because you are one of the most ardent conservative supporters that i know. alex well, i believe as firmly as i think wednesday followed tuesday, that we're better off with a conservative government than a labour one. >> and that's the position from which thinking about which i begin my thinking about this. course michael thinks this. of course michael thinks differently, but that's view differently, but that's my view and therefore view and and therefore in my view and thinking catherine's thinking about catherine's point in you, in her report to you, which i think is completely right, people don't vote for divided parties highly parties and this is highly unattractive . now i declare a unattractive. now i declare a personal interest . suella personal interest. suella braverman is an old friend of mine. we were at university together. she endorsement together. she did endorsement for reflect for my last book, but i reflect on david yellen's a former

editor of sun's wise words editor of the sun's wise words that angry about that if you really angry about something , you should write something, you should write a letter and leave it overnight and put your letter in the and then put your letter in the bin because you're better off generally not sending your first thoughts, but she probably wrote the letter yesterday and then slept on it. >> woke up today thought >> woke up today and thought actually, that's pretty damn good. send good. i am going to send it. >> yeah, what i'm saying. >> yeah, that's what i'm saying. this this is the sort of the first draft that you don't put not least because think not least because i think there's too boxes of thinking in there's too boxes of thinking in the party. some the parliamentary party. some people interested and people won't be interested and many have forgotten. many people will have forgotten. but we've still got a conservative party in government with more than 70. with a majority of more than 70. and hard to believe. i know. but we and we are still in government and in making up the in the people making up the parliamentary . there parliamentary majority. there are two camps on right. the are two camps on the right. the first suella braverman first is the suella braverman andrew tendency . andrew jenkins tendency. ideologically, i've got a lot in common with them, but approach wise i really don't because their approach is burn it all down and this box to is miriam cates and danny kruger and co who have a group called new conservatives who've said in

effect not happy cabinet should be more to the right. but you know, we'll keep on and i'm in box two. >> yeah. i've got to say, i wonder maybe i'm a bit cynical, but i do feel perhaps whether or not suella is being quietly working on that letter in the background, suspecting that that day might have come. maybe was she expecting it to come so quickly ? i don't know. but what quickly? i don't know. but what do you make to her letter? and don't worry , we'll be dissecting don't worry, we'll be dissecting a lot more of that letter in just a second. tom watson, he just a second. tom watson, he just made me chuckle twitter. just a second. tom watson, he justrememberchuckle twitter. just a second. tom watson, he just remember him kle twitter. just a second. tom watson, he just remember him of twitter. just a second. tom watson, he just remember him of labourtter. just a second. tom watson, he just remember him of labour past. you remember him of labour past. he is not he says this is not a resignation letter , is it? resignation letter, is it? arrest warrant i me. michael, where are you on it? all >> i mean, it's one of those situations where i'd like both sides to lose. of course , i sides to lose. of course, i suppose. is there to say suppose. what is there to say about this? suella about this? i mean, suella braverman, she's now had a number of. >> who are you calling? both sides. >> i suppose. >> i suppose. >> meaning two sides within the same party. >> sides within the same >> two sides within the same party and sides within the party and two sides within the conservative therein lies conservative party therein lies ourand i think you highlight >> and i think you highlight it well have a party that

well that we have a party that is utterly divided, is utterly, utterly divided, added the key points added to the key points everyone's added to the key points eveand e's added to the key points eveand e' mean, i think that's >> and i mean, i think that's what bringing david cameron was about so i think about it as well. so i think rishi sunak recognised he had to get of suella braverman get rid of suella braverman then to some wind in the to try and have some wind in the sails of the conservative moderates. he needed headline sails of the conservative mod might he needed headline sails of the conservative mod might he n given headline sails of the conservative mod might he n given themidline that might have given them a little of know, little bit of a, you know, a cheen little bit of a, you know, a cheer, you know, something to cheer, you know, something to cheer on. and i imagine what's going here is that this is going on here is that this is less about the next general election more about what election and more about what happens i think happens afterwards. so i think what do is what rishi sunak wants to do is to and win some more liberal to try and win some more liberal seats from liberal democrats seats from the liberal democrats with of wealthy, but with the sort of wealthy, but not necessarily socially conservative coalition got conservative coalition that got cameron power. hoping cameron into power. he's hoping that that coalition will come out and keep enough mps that the next party leader will be more like a cameron knight than a braverman ite braverman. here is setting out her stall to be the next leader. my problem with this and i think why both parties are vulnerable here parties are vulnerable here parties is in you know the people involved is that rishi sunakis people involved is that rishi sunak is vulnerable is that he doesn't stand for anything and

suella braverman's vulnerability is the only she can do is the only thing she can do is create headlines. think create headlines. i don't think she's achieved anything in create headlines. i don't think she life achieved anything in create headlines. i don't think she life when1ieved anything in create headlines. i don't think she life when it ved anything in create headlines. i don't think she life when it comesything in create headlines. i don't think she life when it comes to ing in her life when it comes to policy. so what she just does is sort of throw grenades out into pubuc sort of throw grenades out into public discourse hopes that sort of throw grenades out into plgets discourse hopes that sort of throw grenades out into plgets herourse hopes that sort of throw grenades out into plgets her attention. hopes that sort of throw grenades out into plgets her attention. now,; that sort of throw grenades out into plgets her attention. now, thist it gets her attention. now, this probably do have probably will. and you do have to the sort of lack of to note the sort of lack of achievements in this letter. i mean, she thinks she's there's a whole paragraph in case you guys are familiar with letter are not familiar with the letter paragraph like paragraph three, i sound like a schoolteacher now, but paragraph three list what she says. >> i shall summarise before i hand over to alex. she says hand back over to alex. she says she's very proud of what they've achieved meaning her achieved together, meaning her and pledged recruit, and sunak their pledged recruit, 20,000 new police officers enacting new laws such as the pubuc enacting new laws such as the public act 2023 and the public order act 2023 and the national 2023. national security act 2023. she also says, i led a programme of reform anti—social behaviour, reform on anti—social behaviour, police standards, police dismissals and standards, reasonable enquiry , reasonable lines of enquiry, grooming, crime, grooming, gangs, knife crime, non—crime incidents non—crime hate incidents and rape, serious sexual rape, and serious sexual offences. there's more and she says, i was proud of the strategic changes that i was able to deliver to prevent contest serious organised crime and fraud. there you go. that sounds quite a lot me. sounds quite a lot to me. >> yes, but as a conservative,

one can look at and agree one can look at that and agree with lot of that still with a lot of that and still think, where does this get us? because going because in the end, we're going to to face the electorate to have to face the electorate next year. and you've to next year. and you've got to think to what's the end goal? is it bringing down another prime minister? mind that minister? bear in mind that theresa may didn't lose at the ballot box. she was brought down by her own members of parliament. johnson didn't parliament. boris johnson didn't lose box. he was lose at the ballot box. he was brought own members brought down by his own members of parliament. liz truss didn't lose was lose the ballot box. she was brought down by her. members of parliament one. parliament want another one. i mean, look even more mean, we'll just look even more ridiculous. so point if ridiculous. so my point is, if you're conservative in the you're a conservative in the end, what your you're end, no matter what your you're feeling is you've get feeling is you've got to get behind rishi at this point. >> right. well, there you go. i'm going to throw that open to you. that question that alex was just where does just pondering, where does this get it what on get us? where does it what on earth the tories thinking? earth are the tories thinking? your on some this your thoughts on some of this after the break. see you

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bills. >> hello there michelle dewberry with you till 7:00. getting into the goings on of tonight's the bombshell resignation letter from suella braverman, of course, alongside me, pr consultant and proud tory. i need to add that in there . need to add that in there. there's not many of you left around these nonsense. >> plenty of us majority at the last election and contributing editor at novara media, michael walker. >> i'm kind of half joking. yeah but then i'm kind of not because i just think actually, if i was a tory, i would be a little bit embarrassed now because some of the feedback that i am getting through is just people that are so inform created. how could a part b of literally romped home the way that they did in the last election and now fast forward just a mere couple of years, few years and this this is what it's happened . this is is what it's happened. this is what it's become. >> that is undeniable, isn't it? it's the party won an 80 seat majority at the last election, has spent its entire time since

assembling a circular firing squad, blazing away then squad, blazing away and then reloading. mean , our members reloading. i mean, our members of have shane tory of parliament have shane tory party used to be best known. whatever else you thought of it, for discipline that is a reputation i think that stands in, in tatters . but anyway, my in, in tatters. but anyway, my point remains about stuff like this and i have a good deal of sympathy for suella and what she was trying to achieve at the home office. indeed, i didn't think she said anything wrong in a her editorial a letter in her editorial article in the times and so forth. but, you know, in the end, you've got to decide what you want the outcome to be. it's going to be rishi sunak or keir starmer armour being prime minister after next minister after the next election, prefer a election, i infinity prefer a conservative prime minister to a labour one. >> well, i'm just interested. what are you scared of when it comes to keir starmer? because for me he's so middle of the road, i can if it was jeremy road, i can see if it was jeremy corbyn. obviously i'm more sympathetic to that kind of politics, i can see how politics, but i can see how a sort of centrist voter might politics, but i can see how a sort of iprefert voter might politics, but i can see how a sort of iprefer any er might politics, but i can see how a sort of iprefer any conservative say. i'd prefer any conservative party to a jeremy corbyn labour

party. when comes keir party. but when it comes to keir starmer, mean, what what are starmer, i mean, what what are you of becomes you scared of if he becomes prime minister? i love the prime minister? i i love the idea that starmer is just a kind of fluffy, centrist . of fluffy, centrist. >> backed corbyn throughout >> he backed corbyn throughout his as leader. never his time as leader. he never demurred from it . his time as leader. he never demurred from it. he his time as leader. he never demurred from it . he called demurred from it. he called him his friend thereafter, he took the during a big cultural. the knee. during a big cultural. you and i may take different views, but you know, you ask what concerned me about this stuff. i think his position on transgender rights is terrible. i doesn't seem to know i think he doesn't seem to know what a woman is. i think that his tax and spend pledges are for the birds. the moment they get they'll start racking get in, they'll start racking up the mean, how are you the debt. i mean, how are you just is this a starter just how is this for a starter for you? >> gm- em— >> just think, well, tax and spend. was interested because spend. i was interested because keir starmer has basically said he's going to change he's not really going to change tax spend. right. so you tax and spend. right. so but you just that. you just don't believe that. you think just don't believe that. you thirhe's is a socialist and >> he's he is a socialist and indeed, he is a proud socialist when it suits him. >> well, fingers crossed. yeah. yeah >> see, that's the thing. you want be the i'm want him to be the thing i'm afraid of. well, he's already lied side, so maybe not. lied to my side, so maybe not. well, maybe he's lying to us.

but can lie both sides at once. >> you can lie to both sides at once. >> so much feedback coming in from you guys at home. sue says, i am loving this. she says the tories are employing adding, come um, tony, you come on, labour. um, tony, you said, can i just say amongst all of this focus on suella braverman i want to just say well done, rishi sunak for supporting the ageing population opfion supporting the ageing population option by david option by giving david cameron a job ageing population. >> a that's a recycled joke >> it's a that's a recycled joke from liz kendall yesterday, which think would have a lot which i think would have a lot more bite to it if not for the fact that david cameron's a good deal starmer. deal younger than keir starmer. >> tory party are >> ben says the tory party are toast matter what they do toast no matter what they do now, there will not be back in power at the next election. why should we get behind someone who clearly isn't a conservative? says julian. jane says michelle. this letter sounds as if it's been written by a spoilt child who clearly thinks she was more success than she was. good riddance to suella bravo . and riddance to suella bravo. and i've got to say, she makes some

quite barbed points in this letter as well. she says. as to rishi sunak, despite you having been rejected by a majority of party members during the summer leadership contest and thus having no personal mandate to be prime minister, she then goes on to say that she supports him because of the firm assurances that he has given her. apparently on key policy priorities . liz she then, alex priorities. liz she then, alex lists four things. she talks about reducing overall legal migration , she says, including migration, she says, including specific notwithstanding clauses into new legislation to stop the boats deliver the northern ireland protocol and retained eu law bills, issue statutory guidance into schools that protects biologic sex excetera. >> this is the problem with outbursts like this. i think you get more with less. this is just one more thing. just one more thing. just one more thing. and have the kitchen sink as well while you're at it. and it loses a lot of its force by having a list of 20 or 30 problems rather than one. and i think you get

further with a kind of geoffrey howe more in sorrow than in anger than you do with anger approach, than you do with rage. but don't. answer to rage. but i don't. in answer to your points, don't your viewers points, i don't have same view they do have that same view that they do . what's point? there's no . what's the point? there's no chance next chance of winning the next election. party election. the conservative party has chance of winning the has every chance of winning the next it doesn't next election. it just doesn't look any shape to look like it's in any shape to do so right now. it has a year before the election and it can do its best to get its house in order. don't politics order. don't forget, politics can quickly. the snp can change very quickly. the snp took weeks being the took six weeks from being the absolute dominant force in scottish politics it had scottish politics and as it had been a generation, to being been for a generation, to being an utterly political an utterly spent political movement. spent in every movement. i mean spent in every sense, and so the sense, right? and so the conservative party can pull itself together . the labour itself together. the labour party in great position party is in no great position itself israel. gaza and you itself on israel. gaza and you can lots opportunities to can see lots of opportunities to chip starmer. we've just chip away at starmer. we've just got be disciplined and got to be disciplined and determined do john says. determined to do it, john says. >> done, suella. we are all >> well done, suella. we are all behind you all of this. you behind you on all of this. you would get my vote. suzanne says. suella is brave. a woman , and suella is brave. a woman, and she is right. in every single way. angela says the suella

letter just shows that the tory voters have been used and conned by rishi paul. i'm so proud of suella. she stood her ground and she's still battling for the people of this country. more power to her downing street have responded to suella braverman saying the pm believes in actions , not words. that is the actions, not words. that is the short version of this. he goes is proud that this government has brought forward the toughest legislation to tackle illegal migration this country has seen and subsequently reduced the number crossings by a number of boat crossings by a third this year. and whatever the outcome of the supreme court tomorrow, going continue tomorrow, he's going to continue that he thanks the that work and he thanks the former secretary her former home secretary for her service. again service. now tomorrow is again going a bombshell day. going to be a bombshell day. we've supreme court we've got the supreme court ruling relation to the rwanda ruling in relation to the rwanda plan with plan. you'll be familiar with that. we what do you think to the outcome of tomorrow? because suella birth outcomes suella pre—empts birth outcomes in letter, which come in this letter, which i'll come on to a second. what do you on to in a second. what do you think's going to happen there? >> i think this letter >> well, i think this letter from suella braverman is a bit sneaky because she's essentially

saying rwanda plan saying even if the rwanda plan gets ahead from the gets the go ahead from the supreme if it ends up not supreme court, if it ends up not working , then that's also rishi working, then that's also rishi sunak's fault . that's not my sunak's fault. that's not my fault i have put fault because i would have put through different through a slightly different piece now from piece of legislation. now from my the reason the my perspective, the reason the rwanda going to work rwanda plan is not going to work is there are lots of is because there are lots of people who are very desperate to come and the only way come to the uk and the only way you are going to them is you are going to deter them is if sending basically if you are sending basically everyone rwanda. if everyone to rwanda. because if you're sending 1 in 10 people to rwanda 20 people to rwanda oh in 20 people to rwanda, which seems the rwanda, which seems like the sort numbers talking sort of numbers we're talking about, then if people are willing the of willing to take the risk of coming from the middle east or nonh coming from the middle east or north all the to the north africa all the way to the channel north africa all the way to the channel, they're going to channel, they're not going to suddenly okay, we won't suddenly say, okay, we won't bother to uk now bother going to the uk now because there's a 1 in 20 chance we might in rwanda. so to we might end up in rwanda. so to me, was never going to me, the plan was never going to work the first place. and work in the first place. and i wonder here if suella braverman is her back for if it is covering her back for if it gets implemented by time gets implemented by the time of the election. was the next election. everyone was like, you're doing like, well, now you're doing rwanda the small boats rwanda in the small boats haven't she haven't changed. and she can say, that's rishi say, well, that's because rishi sunak down the sunak watered down the legislation that it

legislation and claimed that it was legislation. this whole was her legislation. this whole thing worked, thing would have worked, which to me seems implausible. >> let's see. let's that >> let's see. let's see. is that how your how you say your name? >> good panel. tonight michelle, a what she a conservative and what she calls a far left person from novara media. and can i just say, they've grown say, they've been grown up and cordial is what's been cordial this is what's been missing for missing from public debate for years gb news is years now. and gb news is bringing it back, says well bringing it back, she says well done both of you that debates done to both of you that debates will too, as will will continue in, too, as will some of your feedback. some more of your feedback. let's just ponder, though, shall we? court we? this supreme court announcement , i'm quite announcement tomorrow, i'm quite surprised actually surprised at suella actually went today with letter. went today with her letter. i thought might have waited thought she might have waited for that. did not? see for that. did you or not? see you .

bring the party back to where they were in 2019, an earlier today, around 9:30. of course, this new team . met hello there this new team. met hello there michelle dewberry with you till 7:00 tonight at john says the problem here is that we need a leader . leader. >> i've got nothing against rishi sunak or keir starmer, but they are not leaders. he says

they are not leaders. he says the flaw in the plan is that good leaders don't come along very often and that is what we need, he says. i'm starting to think that suella might be the person that we need for the job, so let me put that to you. do you think suella braverman is the person that we need as the next person that we need as a perhaps as the a tory leader and perhaps as the next minister one of the next prime minister one of the things in this letter that suella was saying is suella braverman was saying is she basically and it makes me think there was a quote from thatcher where she basically said, standing in the middle of the road is dangerous because you hit by cars in both you get hit by cars in both directions , runs and one as i am directions, runs and one as i am tonight in response, is on media. yes. and one of the points that suella braverman makes basically, is that she says that sunak basically lacks the chops to make tough decisions . the chops to make tough decisions. he the chops to make tough decisions . he prefers instead to decisions. he prefers instead to be popular and liked. is that true ? true? >> i don't think that at all. now i. i like suella very much. i thought she was a good home secretary, but it's possible to think more than one thing at

once. you know, i think james cleverly is going to be a good home secretary. i bringing home secretary. i think bringing cameron masterstroke. cameron back is a masterstroke. but lament the way but i also lament the way that suella braverman has left the cabinet. possibly. you cabinet. right? possibly. you can those things can think those those things simultaneously. don't simultaneously. i also don't agree her characterisation agree with her characterisation of minister not least of the prime minister not least because to give you a thatcher quote said that quote back, thatcher said that you have to fight you sometimes have to fight a fight more than once to win it. and certainly feels to me on and it certainly feels to me on this immigration question, like that's example . that's an example. >> yeah, let's have a thatcher off. she also said, and i think it's a lot of truth in it if you set out to be liked, you will achieve nothing. what do you make to is kind of make to suella is kind of observation basically is observation that basically is prioritised popular mr prioritised being mr popular mr nice guy rather than getting into the thick of it. >> well, if he has prioritised being mr popular, he hasn't been very good at it has he? because he's particularly he's not particularly popular with i think with the public. i mean i think the problem with rishi sunak has always what does he stand always been what does he stand for? just that he for? people just think that he is he was supposed to is you know, he was supposed to be the pair of hands be the safe pair of hands compared boris johnson. the

compared to boris johnson. the problem that's what you want problem if that's what you want to you've got show some to be is you've got to show some results. mean, we saw the results. and i mean, we saw the nhs last winter. i mean, i really think this is going to be one of big stories coming one of the big stories coming up in months and weeks. in the coming months and weeks. is another nhs crisis. i haven't seen evidence it's been seen any evidence that it's been sorted since 12 months sorted out since 12 months ago, sorted out since 12 months ago, so we're going to have so i think we're going to have some poor headwinds some really poor headwinds between next general between now and the next general election. you're going between now and the next general el yeah, i mean, we talk about the nhs, winter crisis happens every year. i can't help but nofice every year. i can't help but notice and talk about rishi notice that and talk about rishi sunak's it does appear sunak's approach. it does appear to bad in wales and of to be pretty bad in wales and of course we know that rishi sunak is charge of that. is not even in charge of that. that indeed labour when it

that is indeed labour when it comes to inflation. be comes to inflation. you'll be familiar fact that familiar with the fact that those coming out those figures are coming out imminently. will sunak be imminently. will rishi sunak be on half that inflation? on track to half that inflation? some yes, he some are saying yes, actually he will sylvia, one of my will be. sylvia, one of my viewers michelle, good viewers says michelle, good nurse me both sunak and starmer, a she says democracy a davos man. she says democracy is an illusion. am i remember when who was it was it rishi sunak or was it keir starmer? i think it might have been keir starmer was asked in a quickfire question. starmer davos or westminster, and he said davos. davos. >> extraordinary. >> extraordinary. >> so let's pick up on this point. is democracy an illusion? no absolutely not. >> and i suppose part of the piece behind that is also in this letter about the suggestion that prime minister lacks legitimate because he wasn't elected the course of a elected in the course of a general as prime general election as prime minister. that's one thing minister. and that's one thing on which suella and i firmly disagree and indeed i disagree with who makes that with anyone who makes that observation because we relatively regularly change. prime minister mid—term and don't have to have an election . don't have to have an election. we may choose the government may choose an election, but

choose to have an election, but it to. and that's it doesn't have to. and that's an important part of the constitutional principle that we don't elect individuals as prime ministers we don't have a presidential system. we elect political thus , political parties and thus, whilst i profoundly disagreed with both them , i didn't with both of them, i didn't think it was wrong when tony blair gave way to gordon brown. i don't that it's wrong i don't think that it's wrong that boris johnson gave way, first of all, to liz truss and then rishi sunak. i can then to rishi sunak. i can lament the fact that we've had so prime ministers in a so many prime ministers in a row, but the suggestion that you have have an election each have to have an election each time the birds. time is for the birds. >> i agree that. mean, in >> i agree with that. i mean, in terms sort of constitutional terms of sort of constitutional setup, fine with rishi sunak setup, i'm fine with rishi sunak having become prime minister i'm fine david cameron having fine with david cameron having become secretary, become foreign secretary, even though think, though he's not an mp. i think, you we should you know, potentially we should get more people in jobs in get more people in big jobs in cabinet who haven't been elected and to pretend that they and have to pretend that they care post office in a care about a post office in a constituency they've only visited times. right? visited four times. right? so i don't a problem don't necessarily see a problem there. it does a there. i think it does pose a problem for prime ministers if they do get selected by their party, not by the public,

because they just lack a mandate and less and it means they have less authority. that is why authority. i think that is why rishi is in weak rishi sunak is in the weak position now because he position he is now because he can't look, went to the can't say, look, i went to the country they picked me. he country and they picked me. he can't i went to the can't even say i went to the party can't even say i went to the party and they picked me. so i do think there's a there's a certain political weakness which rishi don't think rishi sunak has. i don't think that's you know, that's necessarily, you know, problematic comes problematic when it comes to democracy. on the democracy element, mean, i would element, though, i mean, i would be focus be more inclined to focus on what is there sort of what policies is there a sort of broad among the public broad consensus among the public that get reflected that don't get reflected in westminster? and i mean, israel—gaza war? i think is one of you know, there is an of them. you know, there is an overwhelming support among the public. i think 75% or so for a ceasefire. but won't hear ceasefire. but you won't hear any the major parties call any of the major parties call for partly because for one, which is partly because they follow whatever policy is developed the white house. developed in the white house. >> a >> there'll probably be a development tomorrow if development on that tomorrow if i'm to understand proceedings. yes >> so there'll be vote. and >> so there'll be a vote. and it's snp who are putting it's the snp who are putting forward both forward the amendment and both labour conservatives are labour and the conservatives are expected to vote against it, even though ask the even though if you ask the general public, do you think it's for israel to keep it's okay for israel to keep bombing they're going bombing hospitals, they're going to rishi sunak was

to say no. well, rishi sunak was talking tough that. talking quite tough about that. >> the mayor's banquet >> the lord mayor's banquet or whatever called, whatever it was called, lord mayor's night. mayor's banquet last night. he was actually, i thought, quite critical was critical of israel. he was talking i can't remember critical of israel. he was taliexact i can't remember critical of israel. he was taliexact terminology, emember critical of israel. he was taliexact terminology, butmber his exact terminology, but something like aggressive settlements and stuff. that's, you i've missed it, you know, unless i've missed it, it's not talk that tough. >> well, i think it's very much welcome hearing welcome that we are hearing a change from western change of tone from western politicians, as i think the politicians, as i think in the immediate the immediate aftermath of the horrific on october horrific attack on on october the basically just horrific attack on on october the all basically just horrific attack on on october the all of basically just horrific attack on on october the all of these basically just horrific attack on on october the all of these messagesjust horrific attack on on october the all of these messages saying got all of these messages saying israel can do exactly whatever they want. they have rein they want. they have free rein in international yeah, in international law. yeah, they'll who they'll probably follow it, who knows? can what they knows? but they can do what they want they've want because they've had a national we are national tragedy. now we are seeing a shift in i do seeing a shift in tone. i do have a problem, though, here with sort of saying, with politicians sort of saying, look against illegal look at me, i'm against illegal settlements because every politician for the politician has said it for the past and if what you past 20 years. and if what you won't do is put your money where your mouth is say, okay, your mouth is and say, okay, we're not going to give israel military stop military aid unless they stop the settlements. going to the settlements. we're going to introduce unless they introduce sanctions. unless they stop then stop the settlements, then the israeli are just israeli government are just going say, we've noted going to say, okay, we've noted your there, but your your opinions there, but we're keep expanding we're going to keep expanding the so don't have

the settlement. so i don't have that faith that rishi sunak that much faith that rishi sunak using means that using this language means that he's about he's actually serious about getting follow getting israel to follow international law . international law. >> you ? >> do you? >> do you? >> i noted his comments last night, and i thought that they were potentially more significant. >> there's two sides because actually i've got his comments. so before you reference that just in anyone's not just in case anyone's not familiar alex. alex familiar with what alex. alex has but if you has noted them, but if you haven't heard, they are home. >> but there are many things that israel must do as part of its response . we've been clear its response. we've been clear that they must act within international law . they must international law. they must take all measures to protect innocent civilians , including at innocent civilians, including at hospitals , stop extremist hospitals, stop extremist violence in the west bank, and allow more aid into gaza . allow more aid into gaza. >> there you go. alex's notes his points now. so if you alex yeah, and i think that, broadly speaking, and believe me, people will disagree about this , i will disagree about this, i think israel's doing those things. >> and i think that israel is entitled to act as it has done and to defend itself. indeed, israel is the only country that

seems be expected in seems to be expected by some in the to act with some sort the world to act with some sort of benign restraint when 1000 of its citizens get slaughtered in an unprovoked attack. there's nothing in international law that says have to do that. that says you have to do that. and long as you're and indeed, as long as you're activity proportionate to activity is proportionate to the aims identified in aims that you've identified in this example, stamping out a terrorist organisation, then it's compliant with it's perfectly compliant with international law. and i've listened and read a good deal about it from experts who think that to of course you'll always find people who disagree . but i find people who disagree. but i think israel's meeting the test that the prime minister set out the i was going to make the point i was going to make was about emphasis that the was about the emphasis that the prime placed it, prime minister has placed on it, which is news. the fact that the prime this prime minister has taken this position different to position which is different to that government has that which the government has emphasised the past, is news. emphasised in the past, is news. and it's going make and i think it's going to make it difficult for starmer because of frankly in his voter it difficult for starmer because of there'sankly in his voter it difficult for starmer because of there's much n his voter it difficult for starmer because of there's much more voter it difficult for starmer because of there's much more appetite base there's much more appetite for position towards for a hostile position towards israel than there is amongst the conservative party's voter base. but the reason but make no mistake, the reason that aren't currently that people aren't currently calling ceasefire, the calling for a ceasefire, by the way, two parties, way, amongst two parties, neither of which a

neither of which want a ceasefire presently. reason ceasefire presently. the reason people aren't for people aren't calling for a ceasefire within the conservative labour is conservative party or labour is one. hamas wouldn't obey it if it were in place and two, it were put in place and two, israel isn't at war with gaza . israel isn't at war with gaza. israel isn't at war with gaza. israel isn't at war with gaza. israel is trying to stamp out a terrorist organisation which is prescribed in this country. >> did anyone see jeremy corbyn last night? did anyone see that? you would have seen that? >> it was a great interview. >> it was a great interview. >> it was an absolute shocker if you weren't watching it and if you've seen story you've not seen it. long story short, asked, do you short, he was asked, do you regard as a terrorist regard hamas as a terrorist organisation ? he was asked organisation? he was asked repeatedly because he wouldn't answer he answer the question, and then he responded doing a fabulous responded by doing a fabulous impression of three old impression of my three year old son. it was kind of like that . son. it was kind of like that. he still didn't really answer the why ? what's wrong the question why? what's wrong with way, we had with people? by the way, we had this conversation as well a couple of weeks ago. it took me a get there you. a while to get there with you. you said if and you eventually said if and correct i'm wrong, that if correct me if i'm wrong, that if people prescribe or describe israel terrorists, then you israel as terrorists, then you would same with hamas. would do the same with hamas. why people all literally why can't people all literally just say , take away all the just say, take away all the

other sports and maybes? yes, hamas, a terrorist. why is that so difficult for the likes of jeremy corbyn? >> because i do think that it serves a political purpose. s what we describe different actors in a conflict as so for me, i think it's really important we come from this from the perspective of killing children is terrible , whoever children is terrible, whoever does it. and i think if we say that israel is this incredibly normal nation state and they're always children by always killing children by accident, whereas hamas do it in this sort of brutal way , i think this sort of brutal way, i think we are misunderstanding what's going on. and i suppose this comes back you were comes back to what you were saying you saying earlier, which is you think following think they're following international this international law and this is just an operation where they're trying this terrorist trying to defeat this terrorist organisation. one, they organisation. for one, they have destroyed of the destroyed or damaged half of the buildings now, do they buildings in gaza. now, do they really think that terrorists are hiding of the buildings really think that terrorists are hiigaza of the buildings really think that terrorists are hiigaza or of the buildings really think that terrorists are hiigaza or does: the buildings really think that terrorists are hiigaza or does ithe buildings really think that terrorists are hiigaza or does it seem ldings really think that terrorists are hiigaza or does it seem more; of gaza or does it seem more like this is a war where they are trying to make gaza unliveable because they want to clear out in long term? clear it out in the long term? and this is a long term project of the people who are in power in israel, because also worry in israel, because i also worry that calling hamas terrorists

that by calling hamas terrorists in normal in israel, this normal government, we government, what we do is we mislead about the nature mislead people about the nature of and his coalition of netanyahu and his coalition partners. because you're saying israel is already working to try and in—he fit the extremism of right settlers west right wing settlers in the west bank. those right wing bank. but those right wing settlers the west bank are in settlers in the west bank are in government. one of them is finance and finance finance minister and the finance minister he minister has been saying that he wants a second nakba. now, nakba is described as is what's described as the catastrophe for the palestinians, them all palestinians, which was them all getting of their getting kicked out of their homes and there so homes in 1948. and there are so many politicians at the many israeli politicians at the moment saying what we want to do is clear gaza and never let is clear out gaza and never let them back. >> well, i think israel's intention to get out of gaza intention is to get out of gaza and never have to go in again . and never have to go in again. and i think the i bear in mind, too, that 20% israelis are israeli arabs and that they're the only arabs who get to enjoy a liberal democracy which a liberal democracy in which it's safe be gay, in which it's safe to be gay, in which it's safe to be gay, in which it's safe to disagree the it's safe to disagree with the regime which people might regime in which people might vote for one side, then the vote for one side, and then the government and the government changes and the opposition government. opposition takes government. these things that i rejoice. these are things that i rejoice. i also note that in the 17 years since the palestinian authority

were booted out by hamas, there hasn't been an election in gaza. >> they go for other open >> well, they go for other open to guys at home for response i >> - - >> steve short and sweet. he says suella for pm. she has my vote which can't have your vote because she's not in a leadership contest. should she be, do you think the tories need to have yet another of to have yet another ousting of a prime minister and yet another leader? really? you tell me .

hello there, michelle dewberry. let's face it, ladies and gents, there is only one real story in town today. of course it is. if you're just tuning in, if you just got back from work. welcome you've missed a lot. suella braverman. she is issued her resignation letter. braverman. she is issued her resignation letter . she braverman. she is issued her resignation letter. she pulls no punches whatsoever for and we are going through it. it's not good for rishi sunak the revolt

of the right, though, didn't just stop with suella braverman . just stop with suella braverman. we touched on it earlier about the so—called new conservative. she's writing an open letter as well. rishi sunak today. yeah, that's right. >> but it shows . we were talking >> but it shows. we were talking about party splits in different positions that are taken, both broadly speaking, the right broadly speaking, on the right and party and and conservative party and miriam and danny kruger miriam cates and danny kruger and their new conservatives have and their new conservatives have and i not to put words in their mouth, but passing their their point. we're concerned about the balance in the cabinet. we think you're too far to the left, but we'll keep soldiering on on to the next election and on the other hand, you have suella braverman and andrea jenkyns, who have effectively expressed a lack of confidence in the prime minister's ability to lead the party. those are two quite starkly different positions within the same political, not just party but within the same movement, within the party. >> , i'm asking people >> you know, i'm asking people at home whether or not they

think that there should be another leadership election . another leadership election. >> and john says michelle, it's not even just about leadership elections. this is all about reshuffling the decks on the titanic. basically. that's what a lot of the sentiment is coming through, tony says. we need a general election now. he puts it in capital letters , so i know he in capital letters, so i know he means business. do we need a general election now ? general election now? >> i mean, we might as well have a general election now because i don't see what's going to change between now and 12 months time. i suppose. rishi sunak's thinking something might come up or wants to spend or maybe he just wants to spend as weeks downing street as many weeks in downing street as many weeks in downing street as that then he can as possible so that then he can add that to his cv when he goes and looks for a job in in the city or in california, which i imagine probably what's imagine is probably what's what's him. but when it what's next for him. but when it comes leadership election, what's next for him. but when it c don't leadership election, what's next for him. but when it c don't think eadership election, what's next for him. but when it c don't think that rship election, what's next for him. but when it c don't think that will election, what's next for him. but when it c don't think that will happen], i don't think that will happen because i think this row the because i think this row in the conservative party is about who gets party they lose. gets the party after they lose. right? | gets the party after they lose. right? i think when we have right? so i think when we have a general election that's going to be up to rishi sunak. i think he seems drag this out

seems to want to drag this out as long as possible, and i don't think anyone's going to challenge him before then because rishi sunak because they want rishi sunak to go the lose and then go to the public lose and then suella can say, well, suella braverman can say, well, if been more like me, we if he'd been more like me, we wouldn't have lost quite so catastrophic. and try catastrophic. and she can try and take the party after that. >> michael asked rhetorically, what's done in the what's going to be done in the next what would be next 12 months? what would be different? the minister different? the prime minister has clear and formal has a very clear and formal position that, which is, you position on that, which is, you may like but here are may not like them, but here are my five pledges and i'm going to do best to deliver on them. do my best to deliver on them. that's he's going is that's what he's going to say is different in the different now. i'm in the process on them process of delivering on them judgement next election judgement in the next election when i have done. >> yeah, suppose those pledges >> yeah, i suppose those pledges i stopping i just one stopping the boats i don't see as happening. i've discussed why i think discussed earlier why i think the rwanda doesn't up the rwanda plan doesn't add up when that particular when it comes to that particular one. mean inflation in one. i mean inflation in falling. i think what he is underestimating is that people willa lot higher than they were are a lot higher than they were are a lot higher than they were a couple of years ago and their wages haven't up. so wages haven't caught up. so walking supermarket, walking round the supermarket, you that prices you might be seeing that prices aren't the same aren't going up at the same speed they were before, but speed as they were before, but there's a lot than there's still a lot higher than

they were at the last general election. so don't think election. so i don't think people walking around election. so i don't think people richer|lking around election. so i don't think people richer becauseyund election. so i don't think people richer because they're feeling richer because they're not richer. they're just not getting poorer at the same pace they idea they were before. so the idea that meet those five that he can meet those five pledges and people are really going thank it, going to thank him for it, i think unrealistic, think is unrealistic, especially, of especially, you know, one of them getting the them was getting down the waiting list, wasn't it, in the nhs? i mean, if you still haven't with the haven't made a deal with the doctors i struggle doctors and nurses, i struggle to how we're going to have to see how we're going to have a as i say, said earlier, a winter which complete which isn't a complete catastrophe for the n hs. >> nhs catastrophe for the nhs. >> nhs ones, i mean gone up. >> the nhs ones, i mean gone up. the list has gone the waiting list has gone up every quarter since the announcement was made. i can't help notice. on the other hand, whilst a whilst you say it as if it's a force of nature, the fact that medical professionals have taken systematic and systematic industrial action and withdrawn their labour has hardly think them >> well i think pay them properly, right? i mean when it comes comes. comes with 35, when it comes. well, mean was a starting well, i mean that was a starting position, wasn't i think position, wasn't it? i think when to doctors and when it comes to doctors and nurses a bunch of nurses and i know a bunch of doctors and nurses as they were nurses and i know a bunch of dothes and nurses as they were nurses and i know a bunch of dothe endj nurses as they were nurses and i know a bunch of dothe end of urses as they were nurses and i know a bunch of dothe end of their as they were nurses and i know a bunch of dothe end of their tethery were at the end of their tether because they went through like absolute came absolute hell when it came to the deciding lives the pandemic, deciding who lives and really talking to and who dies really talking to people saying, people and sort of saying, you know, could help know, we potentially could help you, know, you're

you, but, you know, you're fairly old. your chances of survival great. so we're survival aren't great. so we're just sort of speak to just going to sort of speak to you and soothe you while just going to sort of speak to you pass soothe you while just going to sort of speak to you pass away. soothe you while just going to sort of speak to you pass away. that'se you while just going to sort of speak to you pass away. that's literallyile you pass away. that's literally a heard a doctor. a story i heard from a doctor. and then we were clapping for them every first they feel and then we were clapping for therwe/ery first they feel and then we were clapping for therwe lery firbeen they feel and then we were clapping for therwe/ery firbeen giveny feel like we we've been given this commitment going to commitment that we're going to be appreciated when this all be appreciated when this is all oven be appreciated when this is all over. all and over. it's all over. and everyone you're everyone says, oh god, you're greedy, go away. and greedy, shut up. go away. and i think that has disastrous think that has been disastrous for in the nhs. and for morale in the nhs. and i think real misstep by think that was a real misstep by rishi sunak negotiating a rishi sunak negotiating from a position of goodwill and seeking to improve your financial position completely within your rights. >> w- rights. >> you're entitled to >> indeed, you're entitled to withdraw your labour too, although done very although it should be done very hesitatingly when have a hesitatingly. when you have a job i think it is. job like that, i think it is. i'm not suggesting they don't have times on have the number of times on which done might which it's been done might suggest otherwise. would suggest otherwise. i would just make think you are make the point. i think you are right. of right. there was a lot of goodwill that. i mean, goodwill for that. i mean, there's lot goodwill there's always a lot of goodwill towards doctors and nurses in this country, but even more so than usual during and because of coronavirus. they coronavirus. es, i think they dissipated deal that dissipated a good deal of that with striking again and again. >> nadine dorries she's tweeted and responded to suella bravermans letter. she says , as

bravermans letter. she says, as highlighted the plots , which highlighted in the plots, which is of course her book and in suella in suella letter , sunak suella in suella letter, sunak us suella to get him over the line into number 10. but lie to bons line into number 10. but lie to boris johnson and said that he hadnt boris johnson and said that he hadn't offered her the post of home sack in order do so. home sack in order to do so. suella choosing to back sunak meant that she chose the candidate back candidate who would never back her one who would her over. the one who would suella in the letter as well, she says it a privilege to she says it is a privilege to serve and one we should not take for granted. service requires bravery and thinking of the common good. it is not all about occupying the office as an end into itself . if i do question into itself. if i do question how many mps these days are genuinely in their role because they want to perform to the common good versus, i don't know, self motivated interests? her final line and i shall almost , i her final line and i shall almost, i think most mps across the house are in because they believe in public service . believe in public service. >> i'm not making a political point. i believe that as much of labour mps i of labour mps as i do of conservatives think that labour mps as i do of consareatives think that labour mps as i do of consare a ves think that labour mps as i do of

consare a more think that labour mps as i do of consare a more trusting nk that labour mps as i do of consare a more trusting man at labour mps as i do of consare a more trusting man than i. >> ..- >> alex, .._ >> alex, i'm i. >> alex, i'm going to end this show with the final line of suella she suella braverman's letter. she says will of course, continue says, i will of course, continue to support the government in pursuit policies which align pursuit of policies which align with conservative with an authentic conservative agenda. what policies would augn agenda. what policies would align with the authentic conservative agenda that are missing? alex tax cuts. tax cuts do you reckon we're going to get them? we've got the autumn statement imminently. >> hope believe we will. >> so that would be your number one authentic tory policy tax cuts . do you think we have cuts. do you think we have authentic tory policies right now ? now? >> i'm not really sure what policies we have at the moment. i mean, conservatives , um, i i mean, conservatives, um, i mean it should be sort of protecting what you have defending what you have, making sure that the institutions which make our country great are functioning . so for me, make our country great are fuwould ng . so for me, make our country great are fuwould be . so for me, make our country great are fuwould be making . so for me, make our country great are fuwould be making a so for me, make our country great are fuwould be making a dealr me, make our country great are fuwould be making a deal with, it would be making a deal with doctors and nurses so that we don't a terrible crisis don't have a terrible nhs crisis this i would say this this winter. so i would say tax rich a little bit more. tax the rich a little bit more. bons tax the rich a little bit more. boris johnson seem to be willing to kind policy to accept that kind of policy and our public and then sort out our public services. to me would services. so that to me would give the chance of at

give them the best chance of at least their at give them the best chance of at leasnext their at give them the best chance of at leasnext generalair at give them the best chance of at leasnext general question, at the next general question, though, say could though, you say we could negotiate and negotiate with doctors and nurses the of to nurses and all the rest of it to stop strike action. >> i can't but notice that >> i can't help but notice that when the government isn't tory when the government isn't a tory government, apparently it's much easier to there's a much higher they don't get pay cuts when they're in power. they're in labour in power. willingness isn't there to negotiate in places like scotland. a political scotland. is there a political agenda play? shall ponder agenda at play? i shall ponder that scotland that one. another one. scotland offered them uh, offered them more. uh, marginally. certainly the marginally. certainly not the restoration of 2008. that restoration of the 2008. that apparently is the only thing that they in country. that they want in this country. henry boulton she's for an henry boulton says she's for an suella a grenade suella is for an a hand grenade into of the cabinet into the middle of the cabinet office. this is explosive. and if this doesn't lead a civil if this doesn't lead to a civil war in the tory party, not nothing will. i am astonished by the number of you guys at home tonight that want another leader right now. i can't believe it. it's a quote. brenda from bristol, another one. really? see this story rumbles on. i'm sure another day. but for now, michael, alex, thank you. thank you very much for your company. thank you at home as well. do not go anywhere. richard tice . not go anywhere. richard tice. up not go anywhere. richard tice.

up next, nanites. >> evening. alex >> hello. good evening. alex burkill here with your gb burkill here with your latest gb news update ahead of news weather update ahead of some wet and windy weather on thursday bit of a thursday. we have a bit of a north split as go into north south split as we go into wednesday. that's because we have lying across have a front lying across northern parts which is going to bnng northern parts which is going to bring of cloud bring the focus of the cloud and the rain here. the showery rain here. meanwhile, it's a quieter picture further south. so as we go through this evening, some clear across southern clear skies across southern areas. yes, a scattering of showers , but mainly dry as showers, but mainly dry as different story further north, lots of cloud and outbreaks of rain. some of these could be heavy too. heavy at times, too. temperatures won't drop a huge amount for most of us. but with some skies the some clear skies across the far north scotland a touch north of scotland here, a touch of frost is quite likely as we go wednesday . then we go through wednesday. then we continue north south continue with this north south split, staying cloudy with further outbreaks of rain across many northern areas. but for more central southern england, wales northern ireland, it's wales and northern ireland, it's looking largely dry. a few showers pushing their way in across parts of wales and towards the bristol channel, but otherwise plenty of sunshine and even sunny skies for northern scotland temperatures for

scotland to temperatures for many though a degree or so many though down a degree or so compared today with highs of compared to today with highs of around 12 or 13 celsius as we go through thursday. then a swathe of wet and windy weather is going push its way up from going to push its way up from the south—west, staying drier further in the south, further north. but in the south, we see heavy rain we could see some heavy rain with 30 to 50mm perhaps. and gales possibly even stronger than that in exposed coasts. friday looks like it will be a quieter day before the wet and windy weather returns in time for the weekend.

>> and a very good evening to one and all. yes, it's 7:00. it's time for farage here on gb news. but you've probably heard he's down in the jungle in australia. he's not here unbelievably. we've had two days of political dynamite and guess

what? nigel knows absolute lutely. nothing. he doesn't know that suella has been fired. he doesn't know that david cameron has now been ennobled and is the foreign secretary, let alone knowing anything about the big news today . this bombshell news today. this bombshell letter from m. suella braverman that may well be the sinking of rishi sunak. we'll be obviously talking about that with some great guests. i've also secured some incredible new drone footage of some of the migrant camps out side calais. you will not want to miss that . i can not want to miss that. i can absolutely guarantee you . and of absolutely guarantee you. and of course, we need to understand what's going on in the jungle before the show starts. we'll be talking currie about talking to edwina currie about what nigel will be experiencing as we speak. all of that coming up.and as we speak. all of that coming up. and farage here on . gb news. up. and farage here on. gb news. >> good evening. and the top story from the newsroom tonight , story from the newsroom tonight, in an astonishing rebuke

following her sacking as home