next sunak become rishi sunak next story. sunak we've delivered on inflation, which goes down to 4.6, but don't get too excited. everything's getting expensive, just a bit slower than before. and food inflation is still rocketing, so don't get the champagne in just yet . next, champagne in just yet. next, cameron's china crisis. he was meant to be a safe pair of hands . but today, china's communist controlled state newspaper has been the first bit of good press he's got. they've welcomed his appointment . but will his appointment. but will his financial past come back to haunt the conservative party.7 and finally , thomas cashman, the and finally, thomas cashman, the killer who murdered olivia pratt—korbel is in the court of appeal. will he get a success? we'll be there latest with all the live news. that's coming up in the next hour . so what we

in the next hour. so what we want to hear from you today at the usual ways vaiews@gbnews.uk .com. do you think rishi is past it ? is this it? suella said he it? is this it? suella said he had no plan b, it seems that's the case, but an emergency press conference is coming later this afternoon. we'll be live at that. you won't want to miss it. can rishi save his bacon ? but can rishi save his bacon? but before that, here's your latest news headlines with sophia wenzler . good afternoon. wenzler. good afternoon. >> it's 3:01. i'm sophia wenzler in the newsroom . the prime in the newsroom. the prime minister says he's prepared to change the law to stop small boat crossings after the supreme court ruled against his rwanda policy . three justices policy. three justices unanimously rejected a government appeal, saying the plan to deport illegal arrivals to the uk risks genuine asylum seekers being returned to the country they fled from . rishi country they fled from. rishi sunak told the commons he'll look to sign a new deal with kigali, given the legal challenges with downing street confirming it will be presented

to parliament in the coming days i >> -- >> the government has been working already on a new treaty with rwanda and we will finalise that in light of today's judgement. and furthermore, if necessary, i am prepared to revisit our domestic legal framework. let me assure the house my commitment to stopping the boats is unwavering . the boats is unwavering. >> labour leader sir keir starmer says it's time to admit plan a failed. >> he promised what he promised that he would stop the boats this year . that he would stop the boats this year. this year. today . that he would stop the boats this year. this year. today. is the 15th of november. he is wasted all of his time on a gimmick and now he is absolutely nowhere will he level with the british public and finally admit he failed to deliver on his promise. yes voters have also been reacting to the supreme court's decision . court's decision. >> i think something has to be done. >> you have to be deterred. >> you have to be deterred. >> and it would take 2 or 3

weeks of them being really deterred and it wouldn't come. >> what's the point of the government do anything government trying to do anything if going be overruled if they're going to be overruled every matter they every time, no matter what they do? is not a government that >> that is not a government that they are just lot of people on they are just a lot of people on a large expense account on a damn sitting there damn good wage sitting there waffling about all and sundry waffling on about all and sundry and nothing. and doing nothing. >> was good, but >> the idea was good, but i didn't think the courts would allow it because it's just the way things go. >> they do gooders seem to run everything the prime minister is facing division within his party following his cabinet reshuffle. >> the european research group's deputy chair, dame andrea jenkyns, has told gb news she knows of six mps who are now planning to submit letters of no confidence . the morley and confidence. the morley and outwood mp, who was the first to do so, says it's the last chance to stop sir keir starmer getting the keys to downing street . the keys to downing street. labour leader sir keir starmer is also facing a rift as rebel mps look set to defy the party line on gaza. it's after the snp put forward an amendment to the

king's speech demanding a ceasefire . the labour mps have ceasefire. the labour mps have been ordered to abstain on the amendment and frontbenchers risked losing their place in the shadow cabinet if vote for shadow cabinet if they vote for it , they're instead being told it, they're instead being told to sir keir's position in to back sir keir's position in calling for longer humanitarian pauses fighting mean , while pauses in fighting mean, while israel says it's carrying out a precise and targeted operation against hamas in the city's largest hospital , hundreds of largest hospital, hundreds of patients are trapped inside the al—shifa as fighting continues. the israeli military believes hamas has a command centre beneath the site, which the terrorist group denies . israel terrorist group denies. israel says it's delivered medical aid, incubators and baby food to the hospital. however, the director of the world health organisation says contact has been lost with health personnel at the facility since the raids . since the raids. >> only one quarter of gaza's hospitals are still functioning . hospitals are still functioning. >> 26 out of 36 hospitals are now closed. either due to damage attack or because they have run

out of fuel . patients. health out of fuel. patients. health workers and ambulances are are not able to enter or exit some hospitals . to hospitals. to >> 12 year old boys have been arrested on suspicion of murder after a 19 year old was stabbed to death in wolverhampton in west midlands. police says sean ciceri was attacked in east park on monday night and died at the scene . the government says it's scene. the government says it's delivered on its pledge to halve inflation with price rises slowing the most in two years. the latest data shows inflation was 4.6% in october, down from 6.7% in september for a fall in energy costs and house prices has helped reduce the figure which is still above the bank of england's 2% target. it this is gb news across the uk on tv, in your car, on your digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news now it's

back to . martin back to. martin >> well, thank you, sophia . >> well, thank you, sophia. let's get cracking. of course, there's only one place to start today, and that's the massive blow to sunak's pledge to blow to rishi sunak's pledge to stop the boats. of course, early today, supreme court ruled today, the supreme court ruled that the government's plan to send rwanda is send migrants to rwanda is unlawful. i'm joined now by unlawful. but i'm joined now by our home and security editor mark white in the studio. mark, you a dramatic you have a dramatic breaking line story. what's the latest? >> well, we know that the reason that the supreme court ruled that the supreme court ruled that rwanda policy was that the rwanda policy was unlawful because concerns unlawful was because of concerns that someone getting their application considered in rwanda might have it rejected. and then they're sent off to their country, the original country that they might be unsafe in. well we are told that this treaty that is being worked on now by the government that they hope will be signed by rwanda in the coming days will involve an assurance by rwanda that anyone

in who is considered for asylum , in who is considered for asylum, even if their application is rejected, they will not be thrown out of rwanda. they will be given leave to remain in rwanda. so that would seem with one fell swoop to answer the question, if rwanda sticks to that treaty about the concerns people have about them potentially ending up back in their own country. >> so to be absolutely clear , >> so to be absolutely clear, they arrived to britain illegally . they are then illegally. they are then deported to rwanda . if they are deported to rwanda. if they are rejected, if their claim is rejected, if their claim is rejected, and ordinarily they would sent to their rejected, and ordinarily they woulito sent to their rejected, and ordinarily they woulito their sent to their rejected, and ordinarily they woulito their country. to their rejected, and ordinarily they woulito their country. that1eir rejected, and ordinarily they woulito their country. that was back to their country. that was ruled unlawful because of the risk safety. now they risk of their safety. now they will stay in rwanda in jail. what they what would they do? >> stay in rwanda and >> they will stay in rwanda and be they will be be given jobs. they will be integrated the community integrated into the community in rwanda. funnily enough, when rwanda. and funnily enough, when i there in march with suella i was there in march with suella braverman, at the braverman, looking at the facilities around rwanda to i spoke to government representatives in kigali and i

said, you know, on this very point, okay, if you turn down someone's application for asylum, what would happen ? are asylum, what would happen? are they going to be returned to their home country or elsewhere ? their home country or elsewhere? and they said, no, they would be given an opportunity to stay . given an opportunity to stay. but that was never really explored as an argument in the court of appeal. and indeed, before the supreme court. but now it's not only going to be explored in an argument, it's going to be, we understand , going to be, we understand, enshrined in a treaty that rwanda will give a commitment that even if you're rejected for asylum , you will be allowed to asylum, you will be allowed to stay in their country and be integrated into that community. >> and with your intel on the ground, you've been to rwanda. what's the rwanda's government position on that? were they welcome or will welcome these people or will they burden to them? they be a burden to them? >> i think they will welcome them. got a policy in them. they have got a policy in rwanda of welcoming immigrants. they are, remember, decades on from the genocide, a country thatis from the genocide, a country that is on the up that's made tremendous strides in recent

years. there's been a lot of investment. the one of the dynamos is on the continent of africa in terms of their economy. and to fuel that economic growth , they need economic growth, they need migrants in there. so actually, it answers one of their main issues in terms of getting enough people in there now the next to work for them. >> the next question, though, mark, is will the flights get off the ground because, okay, we've tried before to we've tried before even to deport criminals, known criminals who were here illegally back to places like jamaica. human rights jamaica. the human rights lawyers . stop that. so this lawyers. stop that. so this sounds great, but will it happen? >> not any time soon. i can't see it at all because you're going to have to go back to square one, whatever they might argue. can come up argue. you know, you can come up with adjustment, this with this adjustment, this treaty that gives that assurance , but that will have to be relit stated in all of the courts , the stated in all of the courts, the high court. then it could be appealed to the court of appeal , appealed to the court of appeal, then right up to the supreme court. again many months. i can't see this happening before

the next election. >> so with that in mind, on the face of it, we're going to go to christopher hope soon for the political fallout. this seems like a quick get out of jail card for rishi, but if a single person doesn't leave, it's just yet more window dressing . yet more window dressing. >> yeah, i mean, it seems like a get out of jail card. it seems like, you know, a perfect solution. but i would ask solution. but then i would ask the question, if this was so easy, then you, the court of appeal , these were the arguments appeal, these were the arguments that were being put forward, that were being put forward, that was a real concern that there was a real concern that there was a real concern that could returned to that people could be returned to their country of origin, to an unsafe country. why on earth was that not put forward? you know, enshrined in some kind of treaty back then, before then, putting it before the supreme court? priti patel actually in her comments, reacting to the decision today from the supreme court , said that it was clear in court, said that it was clear in the summer after that court of appeal decision that this was the main thrust, the main difficulty that the government was going to face. so why wasn't

there measures put in place then so that they could say to the supreme court , we've addressed supreme court, we've addressed this, it will not be a problem. it wasn't done. now they're saying they can do it, but it does seem a bit after the horse has bolted. >> yeah, the reason they probably didn't mention it is because it would have been too much like common sense. and that's a drastically short supply. fantastic that's a drastically short suppljin fantastic that's a drastically short suppljin line fantastic that's a drastically short suppljin line that.intastic that's a drastically short suppljin line that.inthink break in line on that. i think we should cross to the we should now cross to the political fallout on this supreme court decision and that dramatic by dramatic news there broken by mark political mark white. to our political edhon mark white. to our political editor, chris you editor, chris hope. chris you may have overheard mark white there. seen this there. you may have seen this dramatic late interjection on this . this it dramatic late interjection on this. this it appears that rwandans will be deported to asylum seekers will be reported to rwanda, but will stay there even if their cases are rejected. is this a great get out of jail call for rishi? >> well, we'll hear more from what week from the prime minister. very shortly, in about an hour's time at 4.45. yeah,

there's no question. i mean, they can get they need to get this delivered. i mean, they can't sit back and allow this supreme court judgement judgement to sit in sit there as mark says, they're looking at renegotiating treaty renegotiating the rwanda treaty deal renegotiating the rwanda treaty deal. months, deal. that might take months, but think can. they but they think they can. they may a work around, they can may be a work around, they can get on the statute book quickly and maybe maybe some flights may take these take off short order will these are questions we'll are the questions we'll be asking prime minister at asking the prime minister at 445. also already some 445. there is also already some dispute very dispute breaking out at the very top government. got top of government. we've got james the new james cleverly, who's the new home saying we're not home secretary saying we're not going forward any going to put forward any proposals simply manufacture proposals simply to manufacture an unnecessary row for short term gain . that's relating to term gain. that's relating to echr withdrawal, removing ourselves from european convention on human rights. and that seems to be at odds with what the prime minister said just earlier parameters, questions did say if questions that he did say if this didn't work, we'd revisit our domestic framework and our domestic legal framework and international conventions. now that looks like a degree of difficulty for the home secretary to mr cleverly against his new boss, the prime

minister, rishi sunak. and how that plays out. we will watch closely because the background of this is a very discombobulated right wing of the party. we know don't we? from gb news exclusive earlier today the interview they with dame andrea jenkins there. as many as seven mps, tory mps are going to put in letters of no confidence of support for mr sunak. if that clears a threshold of above 50 tory mps, then it may well trigger a vote of no confidence. i don't expect that to be a leadership challenge to the prime minister, but it might be a wake up call that the right want to put over on the prime minister to wake up, adopt more right wing policies , be firmer with the policies, be firmer with the courts , do go ahead with echr courts, do go ahead with echr withdrawal, do go ahead with tax cuts, almost almost imposing the kind of truss right agenda we saw , which was so dramatically saw, which was so dramatically dismissed by the by mps just over a year ago. back on rishi sunak. so there's lots of heat on him and it all hangs on what he says at 4:45.

>> and chris having spoken to members of this mini rebellion as it's starting to turn out to be, do you think this this dramatic announcement shortly we go will will satiate that will it put those fires out the fact actually we still can get asylum seekers to rwanda and they'll just stay there and work there. would that be enough to calm down the right . down the right. >> it might do. and if you take a step back, martin, the whole point of this idea, this rwanda plan, is to break the business model of this people smugglers. it's meant to show to the people smugglers that if you to smugglers that if you come to the you pay 2 or £3000 to the uk, if you pay 2 or £3000 to those smugglers, if you're an asylum seeker illegal asylum seeker or an illegal arrival in the uk , an illegal arrival in the uk, an illegal arrival in the uk, an illegal arrival in the uk, an illegal arrival in the uk you pay arrival in the uk and you pay the money, you'll moved the money, you'll be moved to africa left or left africa and left there or left there you're being processed africa and left there or left th

less important to the point of breaking of these breaking the model of these people . if that's people smugglers. so if that's what and it works, i what they do and it works, i think the sooner mr sunak will take that. it's got take that. but it's got to be a degree. he's got the rights of those people being being assessed in rwanda has got to be respected too. it's a difficult road to travel on for the pm, but if this works, if what if what as described by mark works, then that breaks the model. then he'll take that today at pmqs that his his resolve was unwavering to stop the boats . unwavering to stop the boats. >> do you think we could expect something dramatic this afternoon? there's lots of ideas floated out there. we could declare a state of emergency. we could deploy navy . we could could deploy the navy. we could go on the echr , the go nuclear on the echr, the human rights act, un conventions exist. all of this has been known for some time. but the big question chris, is the question is, chris, is the actual will to tackle this? there . there. >> people aren't sure on that. they don't know. they look at rishi sunak and they see someone they think is happy on the

global stage. he likes the idea of treading treading the boards with other world leaders. his allies say correctly he was a brexit year back in 2016. he did fight. he did fight to leave the european union when, to use a quote from a friend of mr sunak, it was hardly a good career opfion it was hardly a good career option because back then, of course, a brexiteer, course, if you were a brexiteer, you seen as being beyond you were seen as being beyond the pale by leadership of the pale by the leadership of the pale by the leadership of the party. david cameron, now foreign secretary and george osborne. i think , you know, osborne. so i think, you know, he was he was brave. he showed his his his his views then, didn't he, on brexit, although he campaign outwardly he didn't campaign outwardly with the vote leave campaign. i remember because i was there covering that for different different but different media group. but i think yeah, i think he definitely wants to show that he gets it and wants to show more of his kind of red rural, red, raw tory instincts, which we have, which are yet to see. and this is the real test for him. stop the boats was was one of the key marquee proposals he gave the electorate back in january. and if he can't even do that by the next election, the

real problem him. real problem for him. >> okay, thank you for >> okay, chris, thank you for that update live from westminster. and let's move on now and kevin saunders, now and speak to kevin saunders, who's immigration who's a former chief immigration officer force. officer with uk border force. good afternoon. for good afternoon. thanks for joining always joining us, kevin. always a pleasure. so it was looking like rwanda was an incomplete tatters. this morning. rishi rwanda was an incomplete tatters turning orning. rishi rwanda was an incomplete tattersturning intorg. rishi rwanda was an incomplete tattersturning into rishi;hi rwanda was an incomplete tattersturning into rishi sunak. sunak turning into rishi sunak. mark white has just broken the news that now it still may go ahead because we can deport asylum seekers to rwanda. and even if their claim is refused, they can stay in rwanda and work . do you think this is enough to solve the problem? >> good afternoon . >> good afternoon. >> good afternoon. >> well, three hours ago i thought the whole thing was doomed to failure. >> now , after what mark has said >> now, after what mark has said , i think perhaps we might have a second bite at the cherry here. >> i mean, if this is. if why he is saying is correct and i suppose we'll hear at a 4:45 this afternoon and we can do a make a treaty with these with

rwanda , which covers the rwanda, which covers the negative things that came out of the judgement. >> then we might still be able to get away with it. yes. and it seems, kevin, that the rwandan authorities would welcome the solution. >> mark white just said they are short of labour the country rebuilding after civil war seems like a win win, but i guess the big question now, kev, is will the human rights lawyers ever let any of these flights take off? i mean, that hasn't happened to date. >> well, the human rights people will fight , hammer and tom to will fight, hammer and tom to stop everything . they're making stop everything. they're making a lot of money out of this. >> so it's not it's they will they will fight to stop it. >> yes, but but if we're right and if rwanda will sign up to this because , after all, there's this because, after all, there's a lot going for rwanda here. >> they're going to get a lot of money from us for taking these people. so it's in their

interests to toe the line and do really what we want them to do. so i'm i'm nothing like so worried as i was three hours ago i >> -- >> okay. kevin you've been an advocate all along of offshore containment to get rid of that pull factor for italy did a deal with albania. this one looked torpedoed , but it seems like torpedoed, but it seems like a dramatic last minute u—turn that might just save rishi's bacon doesn't it? >> it does . >> it does. >> it does. >> but there are other options. i mean , we could i think , um, i mean, we could i think, um, operate and we send people to another country because it's not illegal. the judges have said to send people to a third country. they've only said it's illegal to send them to rwanda to

because of , of rwanda's to send them to rwanda to because of, of rwanda's human rights, etcetera. so we could look at perhaps sending them to a crown dependency where we wouldn't have the same issues that that we're having to die . that that we're having to die. so that is another option . um, so that is another option. um, but , but let's, let's wait till but, but let's, let's wait till the 4:45 and see what the prime minister's got to go lined up, see if he's going to pull a rabbit out of the hat and kev , rabbit out of the hat and kev, if you were a young man because most of them are young men, come in from france, which is a safe country, which whereas most of them come from. >> do you think option of >> do you think the option of being flown to rwanda to work in rwanda would be a sufficient deterrent . deterrent. >> oh, yes. i mean , i worked >> oh, yes. i mean, i worked overin >> oh, yes. i mean, i worked over in northern france for 16 years. i've i've interviewed these people. i've spoken to them , some of them at length . them, some of them at length. and they only want to come to

the uk. the uk is the big draw because everything basically is free and they want the housing, they want the free nhs care, they want the free nhs care, they want the free nhs care, they want to bring their families as well . you know, once families as well. you know, once they're here, they will try everything they possibly can to bnng everything they possibly can to bring their families . and i bring their families. and i don't just mean their wife and kids, but auntie , uncle, kids, but auntie, uncle, cousins, the whole lot. so that's why they want to come to the uk . um, that's why they want to come to the uk. um, and so a that's why they want to come to the uk . um, and so a deterrent the uk. um, and so a deterrent like this is going to work. they're not going to pay, they're not going to risk paying thousands of euros to come across the channel to be put on across the channel to be put on a plane to central africa . a plane to central africa. >> okay. kevin saunders , former >> okay. kevin saunders, former chief immigration officer with uk border force, thank you for that input on this this dramatic late news. and don't forget, we're expecting that news conference on rwanda a little later on. of course, we'll bring that live to you on the show. so

please make sure you stick around for that. it's going to be a corker and you get much more on the supreme court's ruling on our website, gb news dot com. and you've us to dot com. and you've helped us to make fastest growing make it the fastest growing national the national news website in the country. thank to all of country. so thank you to all of you for doing that. now, there is some good news for rishi sunak already today. he says his pledge to halve inflation by the end of the year has been delivered . but and it's a big delivered. but and it's a big but food price inflation is still above 10. i'm martin daubney on gb news and we are britain's news channel

the camilla tominey show sunday mornings from 930 on, gb news. >> welcome back . it's 326. >> welcome back. it's 326. you're watching all listening to martin daubney on gb news. now a reminder of our top story. the supreme court has ruled that the rwanda plan is unlawful, but gb news sources have confirmed that a new treaty with rwanda could involve a commitment by the east african country, not to deport any asylum seekers, even if they're application is rejected . they're application is rejected. and they will stay there and work in the country, even if their claim is rejected . and their claim is rejected. and we'll have much more on that a little later in this hour. huge development on a story which looked cut and dried this morning. now moving on, rishi sunak has fulfilled one of his

five promises of halving inflation by the end of the yean inflation by the end of the year, with this morning's official figures showing a sharp fall from 6.7% to 4.6. but the prime minister says hard decisions on the economy and pubuc decisions on the economy and public finances are still to come. growing the economy is number two on the promise list and chancellor jeremy hunt ahead and chancellorjeremy hunt ahead of his autumn statement next week , recognises there's still week, recognises there's still a long way to go. >> there's lots more work to do. >> there's lots more work to do. >> we still have to bring inflation down to its target level of 2, but now we are beginning to win the battle against inflation. >> we can move to the next part of our economic plan, which is the long term growth of the british economy. and that's why next week will be an autumn statement for growth. well, here to break down all of those figures, it's our economics and business guru liam halligan with on the money . good news. on the money. good news. >> inflation is down sharply. that's due, says prime minister

rishi sunak to hard decisions. those 14 interest rate rises from the bank of england and fiscal discipline in chancellor jeremy hunts determined mission not to cut taxes . despite what not to cut taxes. despite what tory backbenchers want. so what are these inflation numbers here they are in october last month, 4.6, prices were 4.6% higher on average than they were in october 2022. that's sharply down from 6.7% in inflation in september. and a long way down from the peak october 2022, when we had inflation at 11.1. but none of this means that the uk is doing particularly well. international we look at this, there's our 4.6% inflation number. in october, the eurozone has inflation of 2.9. in america, it's 3.2. so uk price pressures are still greater, it seems, than many other large economies . and why are they? economies. and why are they? a big reason is food prices. food price inflation in october was

still 10.1. food 10% plus more expensive last month than the same month in 2022. that's down slightly from 12.1. inflation in september. but it's still really , really high. and when the office for national statistics published the new inflation numbers this morning, they disclosed that food prices last month are now 30% higher than they were in october 2021, a 30% increase in food prices in just two years. that is pretty pulverising where there is good news, though, is lower energy costs that ofgem energy price cap that regulates the typical household gas and electricity bill that came down at the beginning of october. so this isn't surprising. household gas pnces isn't surprising. household gas prices are down 31% since october 2022, and electricity pncesis october 2022, and electricity prices is down just over 15. thatis prices is down just over 15. that is a major boost for lots of household incomes . and also, of household incomes. and also, if you drive a car or a van, you'll have noticed that petrol

is a bit cheaper. 155 .14 is a bit cheaper. 155.14 a litre of petrol last month. that's down from 160 3.6, the same month in 2022. similar falls, even bigger falls actually in diesel prices, motor fuel prices combined were down 7.6% last month compared to october 2022. so what's the bank of england going to do now? we've seen, as i said, 14 successive interest rate rises. the next meeting is on thursday, the 14th of december, just before christmas. interest rates have been held at 5.25% since august . i reckon they're going august. i reckon they're going to stay there now . and i think to stay there now. and i think that the next move in interest rates will be down. that's what the mortgage markets are indicating with a two year fix now going below 5% for the first time in a long time. what could go wrong? geo politics could go wrong. we could see a spike in oil prices this winter, which will push inflation back up if the opec oil exporters cartel wants to do things that are

unhelpful to western oil importers like the uk, we could see a sharp rise in gas prices if there's more turmoil in the middle east or indeed more turmoil between russia and ukraine. the base case, though, is that inflation is going to continue to come down and the next move in interest rates will also be down. while it's welcome news that prices are no longer rising as quickly, we know many people are continuing to struggle, prime struggle, said the prime minister after these numbers came out. will people feel better off when the next election looms ? the tories election looms? the tories certainly hope so . certainly hope so. >> thank you, liam. well, i don't feel better off. i almost got charged £20 last night for two ribeye steaks in a supermarket. i was so angry i bought them anyway. there's lots more between now more still to come between now and p.m. more still to come between now and pm. a civil war breaks and 4 pm. a civil war breaks out and the tory party in a few minutes, i'll be joined by the legend anisa stewart for his take crazy few days in take on a crazy few days in government. first, here's government. but first, here's your headlines with your latest news headlines with sophia wenzler.

>> it's 332. i'm sophia wenzler in the newsroom. the prime minister says he's to prepared change the law to stop small boat crossings after the supreme court ruled against his rwanda policy . rishi sunak told the policy. rishi sunak told the commons he'll look to sign a new deal with kigali . sources have deal with kigali. sources have told gb news the treaty would require a commitment from rwanda not to deport any asylum seeker, even if their application is rejected . the prime minister is rejected. the prime minister is also facing division within his party after his cabinet reshuffle . the european research reshuffle. the european research group's deputy chair, dame andrea jenkyns, who was the first to write a letter of no confidence , told gb news she confidence, told gb news she knows of six others who are planning to do the same and inflation has fallen to its lowest level in two years, with the latest data showing cpi was 4.6% in october. lower energy costs and house prices helped reduce the figure, which is still above the bank of

england's 2% target. and you can get more on all those stories by visiting our website at gbnews.com . for stunning gold gbnews.com. for stunning gold and silver coins , you'll always and silver coins, you'll always value rose and gold proudly sponsor the gb news financial report at. and here's a quick snapshot of today's markets. the pound will buy you $1.2410 and ,1.1447. the price of gold is £1,578.72 per ounce. and the ftse 100 is at 7497 points. >> rosalind gold proudly sponsors the gb news financial report . report. >> great stuff, sophia. okay, now , even by modern government now, even by modern government standards, the last three days

have been absolute bedlam. on monday, suella braverman was sacked as home secretary after rishi sunak finally grew tired of her. on the same day, david cameron made a shock return to government and yesterday brought de—man. of course, got her revenge on sunak, accusing the prime minister of betrayal and saying he never had any intention of keeping his promises . and now today's rwanda promises. and now today's rwanda ruling will only cause more turmoil within the tory party as mps clash on what the government should do next to tackle the migrant crisis as well. to get his take on what's been a dramatic few days, i'm delighted to welcome the legend alastair stewart to the show . alyssa, stewart to the show. alyssa, what an absolute pleasure to see you, captain. first of all, you've seen in your 40 plus years covering politics quite a few a word that i can't repeat on daytime tv. few a word that i can't repeat on daytime tv . you've seen them on daytime tv. you've seen them falling out like rats in a sack. but this has to be right up

there with the very worst . there with the very worst. >> i think it genuinely does. >> i think it genuinely does. >> and i can go back to ted heath and margaret thatcher clashing over matters of real substance , like how you try to substance, like how you try to run an economy which liam was talking about so brilliantly just a few moments ago. >> and of course, europe. but i think suella particularly who has a constituency in the country within the conservative party there's no doubt at all plough played, i'm afraid, perfectly into labour's hands and those opinion polls that you were talking about earlier on in the programme are genuinely nightmarish . but it allows nightmarish. but it allows people like lisa nandy to say frankly, this you're just looking going into number 10 there at the author of the latest tory psychodrama and i suspect that she's absolutely on the money. you're looking there at the cenotaph with james cleverly about to lay the wreath there amongst prime ministers

and others and one thing struck me during the conversation you were having earlier on about the supreme court ruling and that is that it's really , really that it's really, really important. the high drama of david cameron unexpectedly coming back into government of suella departing, being sacked as home secretary james cleverly , who recently came out top of the hit parade in the tory home where cites opinion poll of who party members rate as members of the cabinet. he came out absolutely on top and there he goes from foreign secretary and he's now home secretary wrestling with all of this. rwanda stuff, this immigration stuff . and i just think it's stuff. and i just think it's worth underlining winning that you've now got grown ups in the room , which is what a lot of room, which is what a lot of people have been saying secretly. and you've had a lot of it on your text messages and whatsapps as well. and so as i have from very senior tory people saying, look at this judgement that's come down from the supreme you've got

the supreme court, you've got a former secretary james former foreign secretary james cleverly as home secretary, having his two penn'orth. you've got dave cameron, a former prime minister, having his two penn'orth there they are, there they are sitting around the table and james and dave will both be saying to rishi, look , both be saying to rishi, look, we've got to get this right. we've got to be within the law. we've got to be within the law. we've just lost within the law and we've got to have a policy that works. let's sit down with the rwandas again. let's strike a new deal. i don't think you'll get any support from dave cameron for the short, sharp fix for which i think there is a strong appetite within the party in the country to come out of the convention on human rights and put the lawyers back in their boxes . so i think their boxes. so i think cleveland and cam cleverly and cameron have got really important part to play in this statement . but let me just say statement. but let me just say one final thing. underline again the importance of liam halligan brilliant contribution on your programme. a moment ago . i think programme. a moment ago. i think the thing that's lacking in the

country at the moment most of all is comfort, a sense of self—belief and contain ointment. and that reduction in inflation much more than even stopping the rate of the boats coming across the channel to the ordinary folk. listening to this conversation or watching it will matter so much more. and if liam's right about interest rates, then i don't think we're anywhere near rishi sunak or jeremy being able to say, like harold macmillan said , you've harold macmillan said, you've never had it so good. we're nowhere near that. but if we can move in that direction and make people feel more economically secure, the that the state can't solve everything and the state is not going to get huge, then i think they may just possibly be able to climb back out of the hole. >> well, an optimistic message there, alice, but a lot of people said that politics had never been more out of touch with the public during the run up and the aftermath of the brexit referendum. but what we've seen in the last few days ,

we've seen in the last few days, certainly amongst conservative voters gb viewers and all voters, gb news viewers and all the have shown the public the polls have shown the public the polls have shown the public the overriding majority of those who vote conservative are behind suella. not behind rishi suella. they're not behind rishi and they're not behind david cameron , i think, came in with cameron, i think, came in with about 15% popularity amongst all tory voters. so rock bottom , do tory voters. so rock bottom, do you think this government somehow is even more out of touch with the public than they were during the brexit years ? were during the brexit years? >> um , when you say out of touch >> um, when you say out of touch with the public over the brexit yean with the public over the brexit year, i've, i've. dave cameron i know quite well and have known since we worked together at carlton television, all those years ago. and i often find myself defending cameron and i did actually to a couple of political friends at lunch today over two things. one is that cameron said he would give us a referendum to resolve the brexit issue , and he did. and then he issue, and he did. and then he lost it and he departed. he didn't try and pretend that he'd suddenly changed his mind. he

departed and left the implementation of that vote to other people who genuine believed in trying to make it happen. like boris. so i think that cameron has got a lot more integrity and has made some better judgement calls than some give him credit for. and the old tory party never liked cameron. he was a moderniser. he was the man who put through same sex marriages and that perhaps was out of touch with the majority in the tory party at the time. um, i think cameron's a good um, but i think cameron's a good man and i and i trust him. i think that suella in saying that people really want something done about immigration is absolutely true . but i still absolutely true. but i still think that if you were to take from that speech that the prime minister made that said, i'll halve inflation, i'll get growth going, i'll cut the waiting list and i'll stop the boats . joe and and i'll stop the boats. joe and joanna public , the average joanna public, the average people out there would put growth nhs waiting lists and inflation ahead of the boats.

now suella doesn't agree with that, but i think i'm right. and i think on this particular one, she may just prove to be wrong . she may just prove to be wrong. >> alister, you've been very open and brave speaking about your your predicament with gb news. you are absolutely sharp as a tack mate. you are absolutely blasting with full barrels there. how are you getting on? >> well, my, my, getting on? >> well, my, my my getting on? >> well, my, my, my consultant, bless his heart, said one of the weird thing for medicine is that if anyone had a ten minute conversation with you, alastair, they wouldn't have any idea that you dementia. and i said, you had dementia. and i said, well, onward and well, there we are, onward and upward thank god for gb news upward and thank god for gb news who have and allow me to who have faith and allow me to have four penn'orth have my four penn'orth occasionally. the occasionally. i mean, one of the great about gb news is great things about gb news is that have all versions of that we have all versions of opinion on the programme and we discuss it openly and we discuss it with candour, but also we discuss it with great experience. you know, we are a been there, done it. people liam halligan and i have covered more elections and autumn statements

than than many people have had hot suppers or breakfasts. and that's one of the great things that's one of the great things that you get from that you get from gb news. the other thing you get is occasional bit of advice, and that is anyone who's really interested in what makes rishi sunak tick economically should read a thing called the maze . my lecture in which he maze. my lecture in which he bares his soul and would have us believe that he believes in a smaller state, smaller government, lower tax and lower pubuc government, lower tax and lower public spending. that's absolutely what i think we need , absolutely what i think we need, and i think we need to have a conservative government heading in that direction , because if in that direction, because if folk want a big state and high taxes, then they're going to vote labour because that's what labour and always have done labour do. and always have done and probably do better than and probably do it better than the conservatives. so the the conservatives. so read the maze and then hold rishi maze lecture and then hold rishi sunak feet to the coals . sunak feet to the coals. >> alison stewart an absolute joy >> alison stewart an absolute joy and a pleasure to have you on the show. thank you so much. fabulous as ever. but all i can say is rishi must have read that

book and read it in a different language because we do have a high big state conservative high tax, big state conservative party that is why a lot of people are saying they're losing faith in the party altogether. >> yeah. also why in many >> yeah. it's also why in many respects and kwasi respects liz truss and kwasi kwarteng were right. although the establishment is liam halligan written and said halligan has written and said decided that they were completely wrong, their methodology been a bit methodology may have been a bit wonky, but goodness me, there was a lot of economic sense in there well. there as well. >> okay, anna stuart, thank you so joining us today. so much for joining us today. fantastic to see you. thank fantastic mate to see you. thank you brilliant. now you so much. brilliant. now a reminder of our top story. rishi sunak has pledged to stop the boats suffered a major blow after government's rwanda after the government's rwanda plan was ruled to be unlawful this morning. and thomas cashman, man who shot dead cashman, the man who shot dead nine year old olivia pratt—korbel in liverpool in 2022, has been in court today challenging his 42 year minimum jail term. i'm martin daubney on gb news and this is britain's news channel

me, michael portillo gb news britain's news channel . earlier britain's news channel. earlier with eamonn and isabel. >> how do you solve a problem like suella suella braverman associating letter ring . ring associating letter ring. ring sunak apart. >> but we all know sunak is weak. we've all seen him equivocate. we've all seen him make promises and turn his back on them. >> me, a refugee wasn't a word that i chose. it was a word that was given to me. but for me just

realised the people and the reasons behind those numbers. realised the people and the reasorwe're ind those numbers. realised the people and the reasorwe're makinge numbers. when we're making those decisions. >> and this is a policy that suella has championed and now all sudden she's saying all of a sudden she's saying covering all bases, throwing her toys out the pram like a little child. >> her letter was blaming rishi. >> her letter was blaming rishi. >> let's have a look at his sporting lookalikes, if you can guess who who oh, it is guess who this is. who oh, it is you. there he is. there he is. >> but that's not me. that's elvis. breakfast with eamonn and isabel. to thursday from isabel. monday to thursday from 6 am. >> welcome back. it's 348. you're watching or listening to me, martin daubney on gb news. now, a reminder of our top story, the supreme court has ruled that the rwanda plan is unlawful , ruled that the rwanda plan is unlawful, but gb news sources have confirmed that a new treaty with rwanda could involve a dramatic commitment by the east african country not to deport any asylum seeker, even if their application is rejected. that means if they are rejected, they

will stay in rwanda and work in rwanda . a dramatic development rwanda. a dramatic development and we'll have more on that at 4 pm. today. moving on, thomas kassman , who was found guilty of kassman, who was found guilty of murdering nine year old olivia pratt—korbel at her home in liverpool in august 2022, has failed in a bid to challenge a 42 year minimum jail term. our national reporter theo chikomba is at the royal courts of justice. theo can you bring us up to date on this dramatic case? yes well, a very good afternoon to you. >> the gunman who shot the nine year old girl in liverpool last year old girl in liverpool last year had his application to appeal against his sentence , appeal against his sentence, refused here at the court of appeal. now, thomas cashman , 35 appeal. now, thomas cashman, 35 year old in liverpool last year, was chasing a fellow drug dealer and was subsequently happened. is that joseph nie was heading towards the family of the korbell household who he then

tried to enter their home but accidentally shot the mother of olivia and then subsequently shot olivia in their home. >> now, today in court, we heard from the lawyer who was representing thomas cash, and he said that his sentence was too harsh and that he should serve less time before for his parole and that too much emphasis es was placed on him planning the attack during the trial. >> but of course, in this hearing, which lasted just under one hour, for it was refused this morning, meaning now cashman didn't appeal . he didn't cashman didn't appeal. he didn't appear sorry in the court of appeal today , and neither did appeal today, and neither did the family of olivia pratt—korbel as well . all now it pratt—korbel as well. all now it means cashman is going to be 76 years old when he's able to apply for parole . and that also apply for parole. and that also does mean there's no guarantee that he will be freed. >> okay. theo chikomba , thank

>> okay. theo chikomba, thank you for that. at the royal courts of justice, many people there will think justice has been and certainly olivia's been done and certainly olivia's mum, cheryl , a been done and certainly olivia's mum, cheryl, a great piece of news for her today. okay. let's turn once again to the development of david cameron as foreign secretary but do you approve of this? well a gb news people's poll found just 21% of the public approved of the appointment of the former prime minister, while 44% of the pubuc minister, while 44% of the public disapprove . but somewhere public disapprove. but somewhere does that approve? is china , who does that approve? is china, who hailed his return to the british frontline with a communist party newspaper hailing him as a political figure who has the potential to breathe new life into the china uk relationship and as we have shown there, he emphasised, infamously welcomed president xi into the uk in october 2015, where they visited a pub together and knocked back a pub together and knocked back a couple of jars. as you can see on screen. well, i want to ask ,

on screen. well, i want to ask, should we be concerned about cameron's appointment to foreign secretary ? well, i can now speak secretary? well, i can now speak to consult at the inter—parliamentary alliance on china. even fowler , thanks for china. even fowler, thanks for joining us on the show today. even when he was meant to be a safe pair of hands, david cameron. but instead had a lot of people are going through his back history of deals with china. the hedge fund he fronted. and indeed today prime minister's question time keir starmer demanding a full audit of cameron's business history with china . do you think a china with china. do you think a china crisis could be brewing for the tory government over david cameron well, it certainly is surprising appointment . surprising appointment. >> i mean, i have to say , you >> i mean, i have to say, you know, certainly within my crowd we will take him back . we didn't we will take him back. we didn't see this coming and i'm quite sure sort of, you know, there will be people in beijing looking at this and, you know. smiling. but but i mean, i, i

would like to sort of stress, you know, it's not it's not just about, let's say, the relationship he had in china. i mean, he's been brought in effectively because he's supposed safe pair of supposed to be a safe pair of hands. he's supposed to have these these you know, a good standing in china. he's supposed to have a good network in china. however know, i was in china however you know, i was in china back prime minister back when he was prime minister and one thing that that really hit me was, you know, the way he was talked about in china as opposed to the way i think he thought he was seen in china was markedly different . i mean, he markedly different. i mean, he was one of, you know , the two was one of, you know, the two posh and when they refer to posh boys and when they refer to the two posh boys, it certainly wasn't, uh, you know, it wasn't a nickname that was that was given, you know, with affection in what was interesting, evan, is it's not just people in the labour party who've been critical. >> ian duncan smith has spoken out very candidly. of course, he's been sanctioned by beijing. ian duncan smith and that was about a deal that cameron helped

facilitate about a city port, which wasn't just a financial deal and the financial details of that. of course, cameron's critics will want. but ian duncan smith said the belt and road initiative is nothing to do with improving communities. it makes them prisoners of china . makes them prisoners of china. so a fresh allegation then, not just of the financial side of things, but of cameron specifically helping china to expand its sphere of geopolitical influence . geopolitical influence. >> well, i think in regards to the port, i mean, the belt and road initiative is a huge project. it's one of the sort of keynote projects of the party. um, you know, quite often it's attached directly to xi jinping. i mean the reality is the chinese president, you i mean the reality is the chinese president , you know, i mean the reality is the chinese president, you know, he, he supports it sort of so, so he's not he's not sort of personally tied, i think, in in a way that that many people sort of understand. but when it comes to cameron, i mean, he was paid to cameron, i mean, he was paid to go out to sri lanka, to the

port of colombo, which is a huge port that the chinese financed. the chinese built, that actually was handed over to the chinese to effectively sort of go out there and speak up for what the chinese were doing . and again, chinese were doing. and again, i mean, you know, i think coming back to his appointment and looking at it and sort of saying, well, you know, people can change. i sincerely hope that position on china has that his position on china has changed as as we become more aware of what china is doing . aware of what china is doing. um, but for me, and i think for certainly people, i, i interact with, the real concern is around judgement . judgement. >> okay, we have to leave it there. i'm afraid we have to leave it there and move on. but thanks for joining us today on the show. okay. the government's plan to stop the boats has suffered a setback. their suffered a major setback. their plan migrants to rwanda plan to send migrants to rwanda has ruled to be unlawful. has been ruled to be unlawful. stay with us for the best coverage on this huge story.

well, we'll cross live to rwanda shortly and will bring you rishi sunak news conference a little later in the show. i'm martin daubney on gb news britain's news channel

welcome to gb news with me martin daubney. it's 4:00. action packed hour. coming up, top story, of course, is the

government migrant setback. the rwanda ruling was deemed unlawful this morning at the supreme court, but in the last houn supreme court, but in the last hour, there's been a dramatic development . could rishi get out development. could rishi get out of jail? stay tuned. we'll have all of that in the next hour. also coming up, is rwanda safe? if you believe the human rights lawyers, it's an absolute hellhole . why we want to send hellhole. why we want to send anybody there who is an asylum seeker boat . we're going to seeker boat. we're going to speak to a british expat who lives there who actually rather likes it. and next up, sunak delivers on something at last throws us crumbs of comfort as inflation decreases down to 4.6. but before you get too excited, keep the champagne on ice because food inflation is still through the roof at 10. all of that coming up in the next hour. and also in this hour, we're

expected to cut live to a dramatic press conference. rishi giving us extra details on the supreme court ruling. will it be enough to stop the rebellion from within the party? let us know what you think. all the usual ways. vaiews@gbnews.com. but first, your news headlines with polly middlehurst . with polly middlehurst. >> martin thank you and good afternoon to you. well, our top story from the newsroom is the prime minister says he's prepared to change uk law to stop small boat crossings after the supreme court today ruled against his rwanda policy. >> justices unanimously rejected a government appeal, saying the plan to deport illegal arrivals to the uk risks genuine asylum seekers being returned to the country. they originally fled from . sources have told gb news from. sources have told gb news the treaty would require a commitment from rwanda not to deport any asylum seeker, even

if their application is rejected. rishi sunak told the commons he'll look to sign a new deal with kigali in the coming days. >> the government has been working all ready on a new treaty with rwanda and we will finalise that in light of today's judgement. and furthermore , more if necessary. furthermore, more if necessary. i am prepared to revisit our domestic legal framework . let me domestic legal framework. let me assure the house my commitment to stopping the boats is unwavering . unwavering. >> well, the labour leader, sir keir starmer, says it is time to admit the government's so—called plan a has failed. >> he promised . he promised that >> he promised. he promised that he would stop the boats this year. he would stop the boats this year . this he would stop the boats this year. this year. today . is the year. this year. today. is the 15th of november. he is wasted all of his time on a gimmick and now he is absolutely nowhere will he level with the british pubuc will he level with the british public and finally admit he's failed to deliver on his promise . yes. well gb news has been out and about asking voters for

their reaction to the supreme court's decision . court's decision. >> here's what they had to say. >> here's what they had to say. >> i think something has to be done. >> you have to be deterred and it would take 2 or 3 weeks of them being really deterred and it wouldn't come. >> what's the point of the government trying to do anything if to overruled if they're going to be overruled every matter they every time, no matter what they do, that is not a government. they just of people on they are just a lot of people on a large expense account on a damn good wage. sitting there waffling all sundry waffling on about all and sundry and nothing . and doing nothing. >> the idea was good, but i didn't think the courts would allow it because it's just the way things go . way things go. >> the do gooders seem to run everything well. >> the prime minister is facing division within his own party now, following his cabinet reshuffle yesterday, the european research group's deputy chair, dame andrea jenkyns, has told gb news she knows of six mps who are now planning to submit letters of no confidence in the government. the morley and outwood mp, who was the

first to do so yesterday, says it's the last chance to stop sir keir starmer getting the keys to downing street . well, the labour downing street. well, the labour leader, sir keir starmer himself is also facing rebellion among opposition mps as they look set today to defy his party line on gaza. it comes after the snp put forward an amendment to the king's speech demanding a ceasefire. labour mps have been ordered to abstain on the amendment and frontbenchers risk losing their place in the shadow cabinet if they vote for it. there instead being told to back sir keir's position, which is to call for longer humanitarian pauses in fighting . meanwhile, pauses in fighting. meanwhile, in the middle east, israel says it's carrying out a precise and targeted operation against hamas in the city's largest hospital , in the city's largest hospital, where hundreds of patients, though, are said to be trapped inside the al—shifa hospital. as that fighting continues , as the that fighting continues, as the israeli military says it believes hamas has a command and control centre beneath the site,

which the terrorist group denies . israel says it has delivered medical aid, incubators and baby food to the hospital. however, the world health organisation says contact has been lost with doctors and clinicians inside the hospital since the raids began. the hospital since the raids began . now news here at home to began. now news here at home to 12 year old boys have been arrested on suspicion of murder after a 19 year old was stabbed to death in wolverhampton in the west midlands. police say sean c zahawi was attacked in east park on monday night and died at the scene. we'll bring you more detail on that. of course, if it comes to us. now the government says it has delivered on its pledge to halve inflation with price rises slowing down at the fastest rate in two years. the latest data shows inflation was 4.6% in october. that's down from 6.7% in september. a 4.6% in october. that's down from 6.7% in september . a fall from 6.7% in september. a fall in energy costs and house prices has helped reduce that figure, which is still above the bank of

england's 2% target. at and lastly, the princess of wales has been calling for action at every level to rebalance society's social skills , as she society's social skills, as she puts it, during a speech on early years development in children, princess kate addressed a conference where key research from her royal foundation centre for early childhood was being presented. she hosted the early years shaping us campaign event at the design museum in london and stressed the importance of early years development in children in the project, aiming to highlight the project, aiming to highlight the significance of the formative years of a child's life. something princess kate is passionate about . this life. something princess kate is passionate about. this is not just about the youngest children in our society who are by their very nature, vulnerable . it is very nature, vulnerable. it is also about the many young people and adults who are suffering. we must do more than simply meet the short term needs of these individuals . we must also look individuals. we must also look at creating long term

preventative change, and that takes us right back to the beginning. >> the princess of wales. >> the princess of wales. >> this is gb news across the uk on tv in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news. this is britain's news channel . britain's news channel. >> well, thank you, polly. great stuff. and of course, there's only one place to start this houn only one place to start this hour, and that's the massive blow to rishi sunak pledged to stop the boats. the supreme court has ruled that the government's to send government's plan to send migrants rwanda unlawful, migrants to rwanda is unlawful, but gb news has learned that the government has a plan b in its ambition to stop the boats. after all, we can speak now to our political editor, christopher hope, who's live in westminster at downing street. chris, a dramatic development in this past hour. it seems rishi may have had a plan b of his trousers after all. >> yeah, his trousers. yeah. well, they're quite short trousers, aren't they, martin? yeah, we'll hear more, i think,

from the pm in 45 minutes. very near where am standing here near to where i am standing here in downing street. the idea it could be and again, this is speculation until we hear it from the prime minister's mouth that the advice and policy will make it possible to remove asylum seekers from the uk and settle in rwanda and some other third countries. and crucially , third countries. and crucially, that of issue of . that any kind of issue of. working out whether those claims are legitimate will be if it's not done by rwandan officials, it means that they can't go back to the country they came from. so i think there's some there's a way of dealing with this, maybe with the supreme court, which work. so which could actually work. so we're see whether we're waiting to see whether that work. but it's a very that does work. but it's a very difficult time here for mr difficult time for here for mr sunak. going to from sunak. we're going to hear from him shortly 445. we heard, him shortly at 445. we heard, didn't we, in the house of commons earlier, how james cleverly said the new home secretary, we're going to secretary, we're not going to put forward proposals simply to manufacture unnecessary row manufacture an unnecessary row for short term many here for short term gain. many here where in westminster see

where i'm in westminster see that at odds prime that as at odds with the prime minister, sunak , who minister, rishi sunak, who talked revisiting our talked about revisiting our domestic and legal framework and maybe, maybe even international convention conventions. i'm looking at my phone quickly because there's a statement just dropped here from suella braverman, the former home secretary, just in time for this press conference. i should read out parts of you. she says out parts of it to you. she says here that the decision by the supreme court no surprise, as supreme court is no surprise, as it forecast by a number of it was forecast by a number of people close to the process. she says given current state of says given the current state of the reason to the law, there is no reason to criticise judges. instead criticise the judges. instead the government bring the government must bring forward legislation. forward emergency legislation. it's . the new bill it's very clear. the new bill that this is the former home secretary suella braverman minutes ago saying this the new bill must block off echr. that's the european convention of human rights. hra the human rights act, and other routes of legal challenge. this will give parliament a choice parliament a clear choice control illegal migration or explain to the british people why they should accept even greater numbers of legal rivals settling here. and she finishes

here. this is suella braverman, the secretary. the former home secretary. those who, that who, like me, believe that effective immigration control is vital must understand that they cannot have their cake and eat it. there is no chance of kerbing illegal migration within the legal framework. we the current legal framework. we must it or admit must legislate it or admit defeat. that final line. we must legislate or admit defeat. that is the rallying cry, the standard bearer of the right suella braverman challenging the prime minister, bringing bringing the new law. overall, the courts sort out the boats or face a consequences. >> and chris, that's exactly the kind of red meat that you'd expect from suella taking on the echr something she's been big on all along amending or scrapping the human rights act, which of course in 1998 gave anybody here the right to a comfortable life, including terrorists. it was widely abused by people who couldn't get out of the country for years, legislate or admit defeat. so once again, suella is getting on a front foot ahead of this press conference, which we

expect now in about half an houn expect now in about half an hour. with that in mind, has suella once again seize the initiative, or will this plan be this we can send asylum seekers to rwanda anyway and if they get rejected, they will stay there. will that be enough to satiate the voters or is suella once again captured the narrative of i'm not sure it will be. >> and earlier i spoke to miriam cates, who's the co—chair of the new conservative group with danny kruger. you have the co—chair just danny kruger. you have the co—chairjust a few moments ago, co—chair just a few moments ago, and they had this to say about the pm's press conference, the pm. is it time he told mps it's time to look at withdrawing to prepare ground to withdraw from the european court of human rights. >> well, if that's necessary, then yes. >> but as danny said, there are potentially other options through parliament to expose ignore those conventions for the purposes of this of this deal alone. >> and so we very much need to look at it. >> and it's not just about the echr. as the judges said, there are other international treaties

that we would need to look at or at least to not keep to on this particular matter. but, you know, the politics of this are absolutely enormous. you know, stop the boats. taking back control borders was control of our borders was an enormous promise to the electorate it was a big electorate in 2019. it was a big part of the brexit vote in 2016. so is big test for the so this is a big test for the cabinet, for the minister, cabinet, for the prime minister, for our party as a whole. and i think the mood amongst colleagues is one of seriousness really, that this is a huge moment country, it's moment for our country, it's a huge moment for our party and we've got to we've got to rise to the challenge. >> kallas, finally >> miriam kaja kallas, finally to or break to you, is this make or break for pm? for the pm? >> well, potentially it could be. but as danny said, he is saying all right things, saying all the right things, that absolutely committed saying all the right things, that he's;olutely committed saying all the right things, that he's goingy committed saying all the right things, that he's going to ommitted saying all the right things, that he's going to stop itted saying all the right things, that he's going to stop thei to this. he's going to stop the boats. wait to see those boats. so we wait to see those policies, we absolutely policies, but we absolutely stand ready that stand ready to support that promise break. >> from for make or >> there from for the make or break there for the pm is what miriam cates says she's one of these new 2019, 2019 red wall mps big mps elected on that big landslide johnson, landslide from boris johnson, really not really concerned about not least their future, future of their own future, the future of their own future, the future of the party, the future of the of the party, the future of the of the landslide which which boris johnson gain. they

johnson helped to gain. and they are this as a real are seeing this as a real challenge for rishi sunak. we heard dave andrew heard earlier from dave andrew jenkin, think jenkin, the former the i think the government minister the former government minister for a senior person on the european research group of tory mps . she said that she knows as mps. she said that she knows as many as six more tory mps may put in letters of no confidence in the prime minister. rishi sunak leader of the tory sunak as leader of the tory party. addition to her party. in addition to her one that's seven, but this is that's only seven, but this is a drip, drip, drip issue here and it will leach away his authority as tory leader unless the pm, mr sunak can grip it now and we'll see whether what will happen in about half an hour's time, a few see whether what will happen in aifew half an hour's time, a few see whether what will happen in aifew yardsan hour's time, a few see whether what will happen in aifew yards away jr's time, a few see whether what will happen in aifew yards away from me, a few see whether what will happen in aifew yards away from me a few see whether what will happen in aifew yards away from me herev see whether what will happen in aifew yards away from me here at a few yards away from me here at the press conference in downing street . street. >> okay, chris, we're going to let go so can whisk into let you go so you can whisk into that conference and make that press conference and make sure updated sure you keep us fully updated throughout of show. throughout the rest of the show. it's all happening our it's all happening around our ears. that , it's all happening around our ears. that, i'm joined ears. and on that, i'm joined now mark the studio. now by mark white in the studio. mark a dramatic plan b, you broke to us about an hour ago and it begs the question, if they had the option all along of

saying, okay, if you if you are sent to rwanda and we won't send you back to your host country in case you risk death or persecution or whatever you can stay in rwanda and work. persecution or whatever you can stay in rwanda and work . why did stay in rwanda and work. why did they say this all along ? they say this all along? >> well, indeed. i mean , i think >> well, indeed. i mean, i think suella bravermans rather excoriating letter to rishi sunak as well when she talks about no plan b and nothing having been prepared for this potential outcome , rather begs potential outcome, rather begs the question of what she was doing. she was in office until just a few days ago . so what was just a few days ago. so what was she doing as the home secretary as the very minister charged with trying to prepare the governments response to this policy ? and i think actually . policy? and i think actually. the home secretary previous to suella braverman, deemed pretty patel, rather picks up on this in her statement about just how prepared or actually unprepared the government and ministers seem to have been . she says with

seem to have been. she says with regard to this, since the legal challenges began, ministers should have been working to resolve the concerns raised and ensure robust assurances were in place to win this case, the risks had been raised during the legal challenges , particularly, legal challenges, particularly, she says, following the court of appeals judgement in the summer. now she goes on to say that ministers have had the opportunity to address the points that have arisen over the issues of refoulement and questions will be asked about what actions they took as is. this is a legal case which the government should have won. so on that main issue of refoulement , the concerns about refoulement, the concerns about someone being sent to rwanda being rejected for asylum and then being returned to the country that they say may have , country that they say may have, you know, put their life at risk in the first place. that's the big issue. if the government is now saying , as we believe they now saying, as we believe they are , that this treaty with

are, that this treaty with rwanda will mean that the rwandans are going to abide by by the decision to allow people to stay in rwanda regardless of whether or not they are accepted for asylum, if they can do that now in in a treaty, why couldn't they do it months ago when they were putting the to case the supreme court? that's certainly what priti patel is arguing here. and that's a question that needs to be put to suella braverman, not just rishi sunak dramatics of malt white. >> thank you for that expert analysis as ever. now moving on, i'm joined now by stephen barrett, who's a barrister and a writer. stephen hello to you again. yesterday we were saying, right, rishi is going to put his house on plan a and lose. you predicted that this morning. it seems that was the case. but now here we go again. a dramatic u—turn. it seems a get out of jail card potentially. they're saying, actually, we will proceed with rwanda, but we won't have to deport anybody from there if they fail their

claim, they will stay in rwanda. can this legally work and if so, why didn't they announce it all along ? along? >> well, i think that probably is the most important question with plan b, because it's not there is nothing compelling you to just try one thing at a time. >> you are allowed to try two things or even goodness forbid. martin you might have to sit down for this, perhaps even three things at once in order to try and get this problem solved. >> so there are very serious questions about that. when the government lost in the court of appeal government lost in the court of appeal, there was quite a lot of pressure to say, well, just have parliament declare rwanda safe or declare that rwanda is competent in this, use parliament, stop using the courts because one of the things when we have had some attacks on the judiciary , i'm completely the judiciary, i'm completely neutral on those because in a free society you can have attacks on the judiciary and we have them from from both sides in politics, they tend to be

rather pithy and forthright from one side, and they tend to be rather overly intellectual and turgid from the other side. but it's fair to say both sides in politics criticise the judiciary from time to time . from time to time. >> but what i want the public to notice, or perhaps if they saw lord reid do how pained lord reid do it, is how pained the judges looked. so we've built a system and it's a relatively modern system in legal terms, really quite new that forces the judges to make these kinds of decisions. >> is rwanda capable of carrying out assessments of refugees and sending them somewhere safe? the judges came under enormous pressure from lobby groups mean really constitutional , really constitutional, unprecedented pressure. and i have to say, i mean, they sided with the un, but daily, martin you will know, as i know, that the un is looking let's let's be let's be honest and candid. the un is looking dodgier and dodgier day . more and more dodgier every day. more and more is coming out about how the un has turned a blind for eye 16 years the behaviour in gaza. years to the behaviour in gaza. hamas didn't get under a

hospital overnight and all sorts of other questionable activity is are happening connected with the un, not least of all putting iran charge of human rights, iran in charge of human rights, which, it's which, you know, it's a political position. whether or not iran ought be not you think iran ought to be in of human rights, in charge of human rights, but i would suggest outcome would suggest that the outcome is pretty obvious on that on that question. but it is it is for viewers to decide for your viewers to decide themselves and so are asking themselves and so we are asking judges to make decisions that were more traditionally made by parliament. and that's where suella is. right. and actually, if this crisis restore cause that principle, if we grow up again, if we get back to the idea that parliament actually can legislate because what's been going on and if there has been going on and if there has been any pressure on the prime minister or if there hasn't been any political decision to just use a farce to kick the can down the road, what's been going on is that we've known that certain people in politics will have a frankly hysterical is the accurate word to use here. hysterical reaction to certain suggestions of changes in law. okay. and we have been almost

letting the toddler lead us by its tantrums . and that's not how its tantrums. and that's not how a grown up country can run. now stephen barrett, stephen barrett, we have to leave it there. >> we could talk all day, informative and entertaining as even informative and entertaining as ever. thanks for joining informative and entertaining as ever. thanks forjoining us on ever. thanks for joining us on the show. now, there's lots more on this huge story on our website, gbnews.com. and guess what? it's the fastest growing national news website in the country. thanks to each and every one of you for making that happen. now, stay with us because very shortly we'll be crossing live to downing street, where the prime minister is holding a press conference. he's expected to respond to the rwanda rule sling. i'm martin daubney on gb news. and this is britain's news

isabel, monday to thursdays from six till 930 . six till 930. >> welcome back. it's 424. you're watching or listening to martin daubney on gb news. now, in a few minutes, have the lowdown on today's big financial news. and there is a big fall in inflation, but is it time to get the champagne out or not? liam halligan will join us. but let's get more first on our top story today, the decision. now the government's is government's rwanda plan is unlawful. remember, we'll bring you a rishi sunak news conference live very soon. please stick around for that. before that, the supreme court's judgement referred to rwanda's poor human rights record of one of the reasons for their ruling .

of the reasons for their ruling. well, are they right? is rwanda an unsafe place? well, let's speak to someone who should know, because adam bradford is a british expat citizen who has now settled in rwanda. welcome to the show, adam. thanks for joining us. so if you listen to the bleeding hearts and the human lawyers back here human rights lawyers back here in the rwanda plan was in britain, the rwanda plan was a because the a terrible idea because the country has a terrible human rights record. unsafe rights record. it's unsafe and it's fit for purpose. you it's not fit for purpose. you live there. what's truth . with >> well, yeah, very interesting. >> well, yeah, very interesting. >> everything that we've heard today, i think at the heart of this is probably a lack of planning on the part of our government to not have the right plan be in place. i think very quickly, the prime minister's responded to this afternoon. i can tell you as somebody who's lived in rwanda for a year and a half , that is very safe . they do half, that is very safe. they do have very competent systems and a very structured, robust government. and it's had to do that given the issues it's had

in the past to try and reform itself and become, i think, one of the forefront countries in africa as somewhere that's safe, which is a place that's accommodating , very reasonable, accommodating, very reasonable, and very, i think, liberal and honest in its governance . and i honest in its governance. and i dare say that some of this argument and rhetoric around the policy has stemmed from old fashioned views about africa, from the past . fashioned views about africa, from the past. i fashioned views about africa, from the past . i know myself , from the past. i know myself, i've seen the places i know the government and even me as a british expat has had to go through an emigration process to be assessed by rwanda to get into the country and stay in the country , you know, for reasons country, you know, for reasons relating to business and the work i'm doing . but it has a work i'm doing. but it has a very robust system and i'm surprised that the government didn't see some of these issues for coming. but what i can say in defence of the country is i think it's been made slightly

embarrass just by the lack of planning on the part of our government today. >> okay. now adam, dramatic development in the last hour. you may or may not have heard. i'll fill you in and that is, as the british government is claiming , that if asylum seekers claiming, that if asylum seekers claims fail, they will be legally allowed to remain in rwanda and work. if that's the case, you live there. you're a businessman . what kind of work businessman. what kind of work might these people be doing? what pay can they look what kind of pay can they look at? and do you think that's an attractive thing for them or would off? coming to would it put them off? coming to blighty the first place ? blighty in the first place? >> well, i think first of all, we all know that there's a problem with immigration into the uk. we simply can't accommodate it. and you know , accommodate it. and you know, we've got our own issues in our backyard that we need to sort out in the first place. but in terms of rwanda, what i can say is that the quality of living for anybody who does live and work there legitimately is very peaceful and it's very good. you're living in a society where

people are respectful and the government insists on that. and has very high standards in terms of the way that people behave and things operate at you know, i wouldn't have moved there as a british person looking to do business on the continent if i didn't think it was a secure and safe place to one, put our money and to transfer our knowledge and to transfer our knowledge and our assets . um, work there and our assets. um, work there is very mixed. so there's things from agriculture through to normal day to day jobs and also things in fine finance, in technology, there's growing industries where rwanda is positioning itself . so i would positioning itself. so i would not say that it's bad quality at all. >> okay. adam bradford, thank you for joining >> okay. adam bradford, thank you forjoining us live from you for joining us live from rwanda. we have to leave it there. painting a very different picture so you'd hear from the human rights lawyers. now rishi sunak fulfilled one his sunak has fulfilled one of his five promises, least, of five promises, at least, of halving inflation by the end of this year with this morning's official figures showing a sharp

fall from 6.7% to 4.6. but the prime minister says hard decisions on the economy and pubuc decisions on the economy and public finances are still to come . well, i'm joined now by gb come. well, i'm joined now by gb news economics and business editor liam halligan, who joins me with on the money . so liam, me with on the money. so liam, is this time to get the champagne out or is it just crumbs of comfort? it's certainly good economic news, martin, that inflation is coming down from 6.7% in september to 4.6% in october. >> that's a big fall. uk inflation is still higher than a lot of other countries. it's under 3% in the eurozone. it's just over 3. in the us. for the same month of october. and this doesn't mean that prices are actually coming down. it means that they're going up less quickly . but that they're going up less quickly. but you that they're going up less quickly . but you know, to have quickly. but you know, to have inflation coming down is better than to have inflation going up. and these numbers probably mean that the bank of england now won't raise interest rates again

, barring some kind of spectacular geopolitical flare up with oil prices spiking and gas prices spiking may be linked to the middle east, russia, ukraine, if that doesn't happen, then i think inflation now is going to carry on coming down into rates will stay where they are at 5.25% before they start coming down in the middle of next year. >> when i talk about champagne or crumbs of comfort, one thing that noticed, comes that i've noticed, which comes out today is food out in the figures today is food inflation is still through the roof. £20 for two steaks. they charge night uncooked in charge me last night uncooked in a so that the a supermarket. so that the headune a supermarket. so that the headline figure, 4.6. >> yes, but food price inflation. i've got to check this . i inflation. i've got to check this. i mean, it's still 10.1% in october. so food in october was 10.1% on average. more expensive than in october 2022. and the office for national statistics said in the fine print of its press release this morning, when all these inflation numbers came out at 7 am, get this, that food in a.m, get this, that food in october 20th, 23, 10.1% more expensive than in october 20,

22, 30. three zero more expensive than october 20th, 21. there you have it. that is what the war in ukraine has done . the war in ukraine has done. plus, the end of lockdown and supply chains still being a bit stodgy. 30% more expensive and that's what we call regressive . that's what we call regressive. martin what does that mean? it hits the poor hardest because the poor lower income households, vulnerable households, vulnerable households , they spend a higher households, they spend a higher share of their income on food. so when food inflation is 30% oven so when food inflation is 30% over, ouch, over two years, they're going to really feel it. and it's not as if food prices are going to come down. all we can hope for is that they go up more slowly. >> yeah, and some of the detail is astonishing. olive oil and sugar gone up 50. cheese 12. cucumbers, 15% red meat. it's just gone through the roof because feed stocks expensive because, you know, grain is expensive. >> wheat expensive because >> wheat is expensive because russia, these are major russia, ukraine, these are major producers of staple food . look, producers of staple food. look, there is always a lag with food

price inflation because to grow food, the farmers, they need fuel, they need fertiliser, they need finance, they call it the three f's of farming. and of course, a year ago, it takes a year to grow and process year to grow food and process it. a year ago, these things were really expensive. so inflation from year ago is inflation from a year ago is sort into food prices sort of baked into food prices today. but surely got to today. but surely we've got to see food prices come down. see these food prices come down. one news, car and one bit of good news, car and van will have noticed van drivers will have noticed more fuel prices are down on average in october by 8, compared to october 2022. diesel is down particularly sharply , is down particularly sharply, 184 for a litre of diesel in october 2022, 162 in october this year. so there are some saving graces. we've got to take them where we can get them. superb >> always as ever. food for thought from liam halligan. thank you. well, lots more coming up on today's show. yes. and course, we'll bring you and of course, we'll bring you that live sunak press that live rishi sunak press conference his conference as he gives his reaction today's rwanda reaction to today's rwanda ruling. but first, here's your latest news headlines with polly middlehurst .

middlehurst. >> thank you very much indeed. well the top stories this hour, the former home secretary, suella braverman has demanded within the last half hour that rishi sunak introduces emergency legislation to block off the european convention on human rights after the rwanda policy was blocked by the supreme court this morning, writing on social media in the last half hour, suella braverman has said there's no chance of kerbing illegal migration within the current legal framework, claiming the government must either legislate it or admit defeat . but earlier, rishi sunak defeat. but earlier, rishi sunak told the commons he'll look to sign a new deal with kigali, and sources have told gb news the treaty would require a commitment from rwanda to not to deport any asylum seeker placed there, even if the application is rejected . well, the prime is rejected. well, the prime minister is also facing considerable division within his party after that cabinet reshuffle yesterday, the european research group's deputy

chair, dame andrea jenkyns, who was the first to write a letter of no confidence in the prime minister, told gb news she knows of six others who are planning to do the same. meanwhile while inflation has fallen to its lowest level in two years, with the latest data showing cpi was 4.6% in october for lower energy costs and house prices help reduce that figure, which is still above the bank of england's 2% target. but those are the latest news headlines on all those stories by heading to our website gbnews.com . our website gbnews.com. >> and thank you for that update. pauline now moving on with prime minister rishi sunak deaung with prime minister rishi sunak dealing with his own rebel tours . opposition leader sir keir starmer is fending off his own revolt . yeah, rebel labour mps revolt. yeah, rebel labour mps are expected to defy the party's position by backing the snp ceasefire amendment to the king's speech. internal splits

have been growing over the past weeks , with many in the shadow weeks, with many in the shadow cabinet calling for a permanent halt toeing the party line. sir keir is ordering mps to abstain from the vote and instead back his call for what he calls a humanitarian pause . well, gb humanitarian pause. well, gb news is political correspondent katherine forster is here to break down the situation. catherine on any ordinary day , catherine on any ordinary day, starmer's rebellion would be centre stage today. it's kind of getting away with it. nevertheless there could be stormy times ahead . what's the stormy times ahead. what's the story ? story? >> certainly difficult times ahead for keir starmer. >> i think he will be. >> i think he will be. >> however, rather happy that rishi sunak got major issues with suella braverman with rwanda with his reshuffle. but yes, this would normally be and promises to be a very big story because it's not just the conservatives that are fighting amongst themselves. it's also very much the labour party over the situation in gaza, in israel

, and what to do about it. now these tensions have been building since those atrocities back on october the seventh. and basically it comes down to sir keir starmer as leader and wanting to be seen as prime minister in waiting, wants to call , is minister in waiting, wants to call, is calling for humanitarian pauses. that's the same position as the government, the same position as the united states. but many in his party want him to call actively for an actual ceasefire, something longer, something more permanent , something which he says could let hamas regroup, which would obviously be very bad news for israel. so it's all coming to a head probably about 7:00 tonight, because what's happened is the scottish national party tabled an amendment to the king's speech to force a vote supporting a ceasefire where lots of labour mps want to support that. so labour have now come along and said, hang on a

minute, we're giving you another amendment which calls for pretty much everything that the snp doesin much everything that the snp does in terms of condemning the violence, causing for saying please let aid in humanitarian pauses and end to violence in the end. two state solution, etcetera, but stopped short of calling for a ceasefire. now labour are whipping their mps. they're saying to them, you all have to vote for the labour amendment or if you're on the shadow front bench and you don't, you're going to get sacked. and also the snp amendment, you're also going to have to abstain on that . if you have to abstain on that. if you actively support that , but actively support that, but you're going to be in big trouble. so basically as it stands, it sounds like a few dozen backbench mps may go and vote for the snp amendment. they're going to get seriously ticked off. but shadow frontbench ministers there could be about a dozen if they vote

with the snp amendment. there could be quite a lot of sackings. so let's see what happens. sackings. so let's see what happens . but sackings. so let's see what happens. but yeah, trouble for the tories and a lot of trouble brewing for keir starmer to. >> oh okay. catherine forza, thanks for the latest on labour's palestine problems now stay with us because we'll bring you the live coverage of a rishi sunak conference as he sunak news conference as he gives reaction gives his reaction to the supreme court's decision that the government governments, rwanda plan is unlawful. i'm martin daubney on gb news. this is brilliant news

want to keep you entertained. >> the camilla tominey show sunday mornings from 930 on gb news is earlier with eamonn and isabel. >> how do you solve a problem like suella? suella braverman excruciating letter ripping sunak apart . sunak apart. >> but we all know sunak is weak . we've all seen him equivocate. we've all seen him make promises and turn his back on them. >> in the end, refugee wasn't a word that i chose. it was a word that was given to me. but for me, just not realised. the people and the reasons behind those numbers . when you're those numbers. when you're making a decision and this is a policy suella has policy that suella has championed and now all of a sudden she's saying covering all bases, throwing her toys out of pram like a little child, her letter was blaming rishi, let's have a look at his sporting lookalikes, if you can guess who this is. >> who? oh, it is you. oh, there he is. there he is. >> but that's not me. that's elvis. breakfast with eamonn and isabel monday thursday from 6 isabel monday to thursday from 6

am. a.m. >> welcome back. it's 443. you're watching and listening to martin daubney on gb news. you can see live pictures there of downing street because in a few minutes, we'll you a live minutes, we'll bring you a live news press conference with rishi sunak as he gives reaction sunak as he gives his reaction to rwanda to this morning's rwanda judgement at the supreme court. we'll get to that shortly. but before that, i'm joined in the studio by our home and security editor mark white. for editor mark white. so mark, for those late in the those joining us late in the show, can you bring people up to speed with the latest dramatic development? it seemed like the rwanda plan was dead and buried this morning, but since then, it seems there could be a get out of jail card for rishi. >> well, patel initially, but i think it's still a long way off in terms of actually fully coming to fruition because it will to go through the will have to go through the whole again. whole courts process again. it'll to the high court. it it'll go to the high court. it may lose one side or the other, is going to lose the bail re, you know, appeal without a doubt. court of appeal up to the supreme court. it's going to

take many months and then potentially, ali, we're not going to get any decision this time ahead of the next election. so i think it's still a long way off, even though there seems to be a plan b, but i don't think we should underestimate just how disastrous was this morning's decision was for the government . decision was for the government. you know, many in the government were confident that they were going to get this ruling in their favour and they could go ahead with their plans for rwanda . but clearly those judges rwanda. but clearly those judges in the supreme court decided that the judges in the court of appeal were right in the concerns that they had about the potential for people being sent to rwanda, for rwanda as a government not having robust enough processes in place in deaung enough processes in place in dealing with the asylum process . dealing with the asylum process. and then as a result of that , and then as a result of that, potentially there could be the

possibility of we have to stop . possibility of we have to stop. >> the supreme court has judged that the rwanda policy requires a set of changes in order to be lawful, to be lawful. >> do not agree with this >> so i do not agree with this decision, but i respect it and accept the rule of law is accept it. the rule of law is fundamental to our democracy. we have prepared for all outcomes of this case. and so we have been working on a new international treaty with rwanda. this will provide a guarantee in law that those who are relocated from the uk to rwanda will be protected against removal from rwanda and it will make clear that we will bring back anyone, if ordered to do so, by a court , we will finalise so, by a court, we will finalise the treaty in light of today's judgement and ratify it without delay . but we need to end the delay. but we need to end the merry go round . i said delay. but we need to end the merry go round. i said i was going to fundamentally change our country and i meant it. so i am also announcing today that we will take the extraordinary step of introducing emergency

legislation . this will enable legislation. this will enable parliament to confirm that with our new treaty , rwanda is safe . our new treaty, rwanda is safe. it will ensure that people cannot further delay flights by bringing systemic challenges in our domestic courts and stop our policy being repeatedly blocked . policy being repeatedly blocked. but of course , we must be honest but of course, we must be honest about the fact that even once parliament has changed the law here at home, we could still face challenges from the european court of human rights in strasbourg . i told parliament in strasbourg. i told parliament earlier today that i am prepared to change our laws and revisit those international relationships to remove the obstacles in our way . so let relationships to remove the obstacles in our way. so let me tell everybody now how i will not allow a foreign court to block these flights if the strasbourg court chooses to intervene against the express wishes of parliament, i am to prepared do what is necessary to get flights off. i will not take the easy way out because i fundamentally do not believe that anyone one thinks the

founding aims of the european convention on human rights was to stop a sovereign parliament removing illegal migrants to a country deemed to be safe in parliamentary statute and binding international law. and i do not believe that we are alone in that interpretation. even across europe, other governments are following our lead italy, germany , austria are all germany, austria are all exploring models like ours in deed, the unhcr operates its own refugee scheme in rwanda , and refugee scheme in rwanda, and unlike the uk , they do not have unlike the uk, they do not have a treaty for any of this. we are a treaty for any of this. we are a reasonable government and this is a reasonable country. but the british people's patience can only be stretched so thin and they expect the boats to be stopped. that is why i made it one of my five priorities and whatever our critics might say, we are making progress because as the rwanda scheme is only one

part of our strategy. last december, the number entering the uk illegally in small boats had more than quadrupled in just two years. since then , and this two years. since then, and this year they are down by a third, even as the numbers entering the rest of europe have soared with illegal crossings of the mediterranean up by 80. we are ending the farce of taxpayers footing the bill to put illegal migrants in hotels . with 50 migrants in hotels. with 50 closures announced already returning them to local communities . illegal working communities. illegal working raids are up by almost 70. and we have made over 5000 arrests this year . we have made over 5000 arrests this year. we've concluded returns and cooperated in agreements with france , agreements with france, bulgaria, turkey , italy, georgia bulgaria, turkey, italy, georgia and albania to we've cut the legacy initial asylum backlog by almost two thirds. and in total we've returned over 20,000 illegal migrants this year. the

facts are clear . this government facts are clear. this government has done more and delivered more than any government in the last five years to tackle . illegal five years to tackle. illegal migration. but to fully solve this problem, the rwanda policy is a necessary deterrent . it is a necessary deterrent. it that's why it's important that the supreme court has today confirmed deemed that the principle of removing asylum seekers to a third safe country is lawful because it means that when we have addressed the supreme court's concerns, people will know that if they come here illegally, they will not get to stay and so they will stop coming altogether . that stay and so they will stop coming altogether. that is stay and so they will stop coming altogether . that is how coming altogether. that is how we will stop the boats. in recent years , as many people recent years, as many people have lost faith in politicians ability to do the things they said they would do . they fear said they would do. they fear that politicians are more interested in grandstanding than delivering for the british people . i've been determined to people. i've been determined to change that, to deliver on the commitments that i make. i

committed at the start of this year to halve inflation back then, inflation was 10.7, but new figures released this morning by the office of national statistics show that inflation is now 4.6. i'm not saying the job is done. many people have struggled and continue to struggle. we must stay the course until inflation returns to target. but it shows that when i said we would halve inflation, i meant it when i said i would stop the boats, i meant it. today's judgement has not weakened my resolve. it has only hardened it and we will deliver that to . thank you . deliver that to. thank you. we'll take some questions from the media. briefly. can i start with the bbc? thank you. >> chris mason at bbc news. let's cut to the quick prime minister. you gave your home secretary the heave ho on on monday. the court has shredded your rwanda plan today. monday. the court has shredded your rwanda plan today . say it's your rwanda plan today. say it's a total shambles, isn't it,

chris? >> if you look at the track record of our policy tackling illegal migration, an as i said earlier, we've done more in the last year to tackle illegal migration, to stop the boats than any government has done in years. the numbers of people coming here this year are down by a third. the number of illegal migration raids up by 70. new deals with half a dozen countries. we've returned 20,000 people. we've made thousands of arrests, all while the numbers in europe are getting worse, so that actually shows that when i said we would stop the boats when i made that speech in january , we are delivering. january, we are delivering. we're making strong progress. but in order to finish the job, in order to the job done, we in order to get the job done, we need the rwanda deterrent to work. why we've been work. and that is why we've been preparing , carefully preparing thoroughly, carefully for outcomes today. that's for all outcomes today. that's why we've already got a treaty thatis why we've already got a treaty that is virtually ready to go, which we will finalise in light of today's judgement, and that will every body with the will provide every body with the assurances they need. and indeed

the court today made recommendations. we will meet all those challenges with our new treaty and then parliament will have the chance to demonstrate unequivocally that rwanda is safe for these purposes and in compliance with all our obligations. so not only have we made great progress this far, we will get the job done , far, we will get the job done, and that involves the new treaty and that involves the new treaty and new domestic legislation and that will clear the remaining barriers to us getting flights off as planned in the spring of next year . can i next turn to next year. can i next turn to itv ? itv? >> anushka asthana, itv news . >> anushka asthana, itv news. >> anushka asthana, itv news. >> prime minister, your party vice chair, lee anderson, says ignore the law. just put the planes in the air and send them to rwanda . you have just made to rwanda. you have just made clear that you respect the law. so will you sack him or do you understand where he's coming from? and if no one is sent to rwanda before the next election, will you admit that you failed? well, think what lee's well, i think what lee's comments and indeed the comments of others do is reflect the strength of feeling in the

country on this issue . country on this issue. >> and i absolutely share actually in the frustrations that my colleagues and indeed people across the country have about this issue . and everyone about this issue. and everyone should understand the strength of feeling. and that's why i made stopping boats one of made stopping the boats one of my five priorities. it was right that it's one of the five priorities. it's one of this country's priorities. and country's top priorities. and people what people are frustrated by what they as repeated challenges they see as repeated challenges to ability to to parliament's ability to get this . now, as i said, we've this done. now, as i said, we've made progress . this done. now, as i said, we've made progress. i want made good progress. i want people to take heart the people to take heart from the fact for the first time fact that for the first time since small boats a thing since small boats became a thing in country, we have reduced since small boats became a thing in numbersy, we have reduced since small boats became a thing in numbers bywe have reduced since small boats became a thing in numbers by at have reduced since small boats became a thing in numbers by a third. reduced since small boats became a thing in numbers by a third. thisiced the numbers by a third. this yeah the numbers by a third. this year. thanks to all the work that has been done over the past year the agreements or the year or the agreements or the extra deterrence illegal extra deterrence or the illegal working raids, the arrests. as i said, all of that means that we've made progress, but we do need to get the job done. and that's i clear in that's why i was clear in parliament i've been clear parliament and i've been clear here once we have here today that once we have this new treaty and once parliament endorses it and declares that rwanda is safe for these purposes and we meet all

our obligations, then my patience has run thin as i believe the countries patience has thin and that's why has run thin and that's why we'll take all the necessary steps to that we can steps to ensure that we can remove any further blockages. to us, getting this policy executed and getting planes leaving as planned in the spring of next year. planned in the spring of next year . next two planned in the spring of next year. next two times radio. >> thank you, prime minister kate mccann from times radio , kate mccann from times radio, your own home office has said that it identified and i quote some concerns with rwanda's human rights record around political opposition to the current regime, dissent and freedom of speech. we've looked at the country conditions and assessed that rwanda is generally a safe country for asylum seekers and refugees. >> how can parliament be certain that rwanda is a safe country if your own home office isn't certain and can you guarantee that a plane will leave before the next general election ? the next general election? >> well , kate, when it the next general election? >> well, kate, when it comes to the home office, actually, it published a notice earlier this

year which gave a full country guidance on rwanda and explained that the decision that it had reached and the assessment that it had made, that it was safe for these purposes. but it's not just the home office that came to that conclusion. it's also important in important to remember that in the court appeal, the most important to remember that in the cojustice,ppeal, the most important to remember that in the cojustice, theil, the most important to remember that in the cojustice, the lorde most important to remember that in the cojustice, the lord chieft senior justice, the lord chief justice, agreed with the government that we had sought and the appropriate and received the appropriate assurances about assurances from rwanda about this particular issue that has been raised. and the supreme court talked about today of onward refoulement. and furthermore , again, reminding furthermore, again, reminding everyone that rwanda is recognised globally for its record and welcoming migrants , record and welcoming migrants, including over 500 people, that were evacuated from libya under the eu's emergency mechanism, working in partnership with the united nations. in fact, the united nations. in fact, the united nations. in fact, the united nations high commissioner said that he really wanted to thank the government of rwanda for what they had done and the refugee country plan from the united nations said that thanks to the generosity of the rwandan government and the rwandan people, evacuees from libya can

enjoy a good protection environment and get access to essential humanitarian assistance services so those are the statements from the united nafions the statements from the united nations previously , we've had nations previously, we've had our own assessment, but as i said, our new treaty will put into binding law the assurances that everybody, including the supreme court, needs to make sure that people can be certain that when we send someone to rwanda, they won't be incorrectly returned to their own country. if that was problematic for them and when we do that, parliament will have a chance to support that point of view and at that point, as i said, a sovereign parliament has declared or will have declared unequivocally that rwanda is safe for these purposes. it fulfils our obligations fulfils all our obligations under different under the various different obugafions under the various different obligations that we have because there are multiple . and in doing there are multiple. and in doing so that i do not so at that point, i do not expect there to be any more domestic barriers to us getting this policy working and planes leaving can leaving the uk. so you can guarantee the next guarantee one before the next election. i said, we are election. as i said, we are working extremely to make working extremely hard to make sure can get a plane off

sure that we can get a plane off as planned the spring. next, as planned in the spring. next, can turn the daily mail? can i turn to the daily mail? thanks pam. >> jason gross from the daily mail. >> we've had a lot of talk and a lot of legislation from quite a lot of legislation from quite a lot of legislation from quite a lot of pms on this issue, and you're offering more of the same today. >> i mean, to return to kate's question, i mean, people people patience has worn thin . can you patience has worn thin. can you give us a guarantee today that you will get those flights off before the election? because you do have options and at the moment it looks like it's all going in the courts ' 7 m. again? >> well, what i'd say, jason, is, look, i understand people's frustrations. i'm incredibly sympathetic to them. i think the current system is both unfair and unsustainable , all whether and unsustainable, all whether it's the farce of illegal migrants taking up hotels in local communities and costing taxpayers millions of pounds, whether it's the base whether it's just the base unfairness people unfairness of some people jumping the queue, breaking the rules, exploiting our generosity . and by the way, meaning that we can't apply our compassion and generosity to those who most need it. none of that is right.

and people are needlessly dying . and people are needlessly dying. innocent people are dying when they're making these illegal crossings. they're being crossings. so they're being exploited gangs. any which exploited by gangs. any which way look at it, the current way you look at it, the current system is not defensible all which why it's one of my which is why it's one of my priorities to stop boats. which is why it's one of my pri0|as3s to stop boats. which is why it's one of my pri0|as i to stop boats. which is why it's one of my pri0|as i said,op boats. which is why it's one of my pri0|as i said,op made. which is why it's one of my pri0|as i said,op made more and as i said, we've made more progress in the past year than any government has in any year since this small boats phenomenon came upon us. and i'm confident that we will keep making progress. but getting rwanda working is an important part of completing the job. having the deterrence effect that we need and as i said, legislation will help us do that. we are responding to the supreme court. as i said, i don't agree with the decision, but i respect it and accept it. rule of law is fundamental to our democracy , but what we have our democracy, but what we have been doing negotiating a new been doing is negotiating a new treaty with rwanda that be treaty with rwanda that will be legally that will be legally binding and that will be ratified both by our parliament and in rwanda and alongside that, as i said, we will be introducing emergency extraordinary legislation

session so that people cannot further delay flights by bringing systemic challenges in our domestic courts and stop our policy being repeatedly blocked . policy being repeatedly blocked. thatis policy being repeatedly blocked. that is a significant step . but that is a significant step. but as i said, i was going to fundamentally change our country. i'm going to do what it takes to stop the boats. that is going to require extraordinary emergency legislation to remove going to require extraordinary emergbarriers. islation to remove going to require extraordinary emergbarriers. that's] to remove going to require extraordinary emergbarriers. that's whatemove those barriers. that's what we're do. and i've we're going to do. and as i've also made today, that if also made clear today, that if we face future challenges through of through the european court of human then we need to human rights, then we need to revisit those relationships. and i will allow a foreign court i will not allow a foreign court to block those flights. it is fundamental to me that we deliver on this priority by stopping boats is the stopping the boats is the country's . it's the country's priority. it's the home priority. it's home secretary's priority. it's my we're to my priority, and we're going to get job done . and lastly, get the job done. and lastly, if i go to the daily express . i could go to the daily express. >> thanks, prime minister. some listeners, daily express can you be explicit about exactly how you intend to stop european intervention on this matter? because it isn't really clear . because it isn't really clear. and also we've had two comment,

one from former home secretary priti patel saying that actually the court of appeal ruling was explicit in its concerns about this issue and you should have been able to see that at the time and mitigate against it to prevent this happening. and allies of suella braverman say that they try to see off with action to prevent this as well. so two former home secretaries suggesting you should have seen this off months ago. so why didn't you? >> well, lots in there, sam. i'll just first of all, we've delivered more in this last year to actually tackle this issue than any government has previously. i'm very proud of our record. small boats became a phenomenon four years ago for the first time ever this year , the first time ever this year, under my leadership, the numbers are down. they're not just down by little, they're down by a third. the number of arrests are in the thousands. third. the number of arrests are in the thousands . the illegal in the thousands. the illegal migration raids are up by 70. we've returned 20,000 people. and for the first time, we're actually closing hotels, actually now closing hotels, returning them back to local

use, saving taxpayers money. so i'm very proud of everything that we've achieved in this past yeah that we've achieved in this past year. i think it's more than anyone done in tackling anyone has ever done in tackling this always say this issue. but i always say tackling this was tackling this issue was not easy. i made speech in easy. when i made the speech in january said that stopping january and i said that stopping the boats was a priority. you asked me then when? when, when exactly? all the exactly? and i said, of all the things that i'm going tackle, things that i'm going to tackle, this the hardest. it won't be this is the hardest. it won't be solved overnight. there's no silver which we silver bullet, which is why we have to all these things. and have to do all these things. and rwanda is a part of that. and that's will to that's why we will continue to get it done. now, in terms of the european court, of the the european court, one of the things that people asked me in january when made that speech january when i made that speech and was about january when i made that speech and 39 was about january when i made that speech and 39 seconds, was about january when i made that speech and 39 seconds, theseas about january when i made that speech and 39 seconds, these are bout january when i made that speech and 39 seconds, these are these rule 39 seconds, these are these judgements that come from the european have blocked european court that have blocked us doing things the us from doing things in the past. that were past. i said then that we were going engage a process going to engage in a process with european court with the european court to have reform, how they do that. reform, um, of how they do that. and on monday you may have seen that they concluded that they are going to make significant changes to that process. they are going to make significant cha goingo that process. they are going to make significant cha going 0 thaverocess. they are going to make significant cha goingo thave name they are going to make significant cha going 0 thave name judges, are going to have name judges, they're to make sure that they're going to make sure that countries can make their representations before they make

their they're their determinations. they're going to ensure that they should only given in exceptional only be given in exceptional circumstances where there is risk of irreparable harm. so that shows that, by the way, our work that this year has been work on that this year has been successful. people thought successful. many people thought it has been it wouldn't be, but it has been so we've already reformed that process . but what i said, process. but what i said, i don't think we need to get into the speculation of that. now because i'm confident that what we are doing will all our we are doing will meet all our obugafions we are doing will meet all our obligations i'm confident obligations and i'm confident that asserts that once parliament asserts that once parliament asserts that that will be that the that that will be something people pay due something that people pay due attention to. but let me just be clear what i will not do is allow a foreign court to block our ability to get these flights allow a foreign court to block ouroncety to get these flights allow a foreign court to block ouronce a to get these flights allow a foreign court to block ouronce a sovereignese flights allow a foreign court to block ouronce a sovereign parliament off once a sovereign parliament has determined in law that rwanda is a safe country for these purposes and meets all our obugafions. these purposes and meets all our obligations . evans and i want to obligations. evans and i want to be crystal clear about that because we will stop the boats and getting this policy working is to doing that, and we is vital to doing that, and we will absolutely everything will do absolutely everything that necessary that that is necessary to make that work . thanks very much . work. thanks very much. >> do you promise to okay, there

we have a dramatic press conference there from rishi sunak depher defiantly saying a significant step was the introduction of emergency legislation declaring rwanda is a safe country which will prohibit lawyers or any foreign court stop ing those flies. >> so this morning this looked dead and buried. i'm joined now by our homeland security editor, mark white. mark, quite a turnaround this morning. we thought this was dead in the water. this is a significant development. do you think it's going to work, though, or will we still see flights not leaving britain? well it's still in a deep coma and it doesn't look like it's going to be coming around from that coma anytime soon because whatever he says about now , now legislating about now, now legislating emergency legislation to try to push this through, it's still going to have to go through courts and it will be challenged

whether or not the government will win that. >> at the end of the day is still to be determined . and this still to be determined. and this i think it's important. the treaty in shrining in in legislation from the rwandan government, that they will not remove anybody from rwanda, even if they turn them for down asylum in that country as we broke a couple of hours ago . so broke a couple of hours ago. so what he also said as part of that was that the government, this government, would agree to accept anybody back from rwanda should a british court decide that that should happen . and that that should happen. and then, as i say, the emergency legislation, which he believes will give him the authority to circumvent that these constant challenges on that merry go round as he described it, of challenges that you're getting under echr human rights legislation and the like. i'm not so sure it will do that. people will still try to

challenge it. it'll have to be argued out in the courts regardless, and that's going to take time. and he's talking about flights that are going to leave the uk in the spring. and |, leave the uk in the spring. and i, i can't see that in a month of sundays being the case. you know, we've been told that for months and months and months . months and months and months. it's 19 months since boris johnson stood up at lydd airport in kent and announced this policy a couple of months later. that flight was on the tarmac. well waiting to take off to head to kigali . it was stopped . by by to kigali. it was stopped. by by a late challenge to the european courts and it's been mired in our legal system ever since. and i think, you know, all that's is going to happen from today is that we just go back to square one. and with the new legislation and the new guarantees is it will still be argued out with each appeal having to be argued again and on that precise point , mog, an ally

that precise point, mog, an ally of suella braverman , has just of suella braverman, has just said this. >> this is a treaty which he's putting in legislation. it's just another version of plan a, he'll be stuck in the courts again, more magic tricks from rishi's magical thinking. so as you'd expect, this is being attacked by hms suella and her allies right from the off. >> yeah. i mean it's not plan e, clearly it's different to plan a and there are guarantees in there which might well mean that there which might well mean that the eventual outcome is that this time it will find in favour of the government. but we have of the government. but we have of a legal, you know, due process in this country, which means that it will go, first of all, to the high court and then when whichever party loses, they will have the opportunity to appeal and then it will go to the court of appeal and then the supreme court. none of that is quick. it all takes not just weeks, but months for each

appeal to each court. so i can't see there whatever he says about the flights taking off unless he really is going to completely ignore the courts. and then just throw caution to the wind and send flights to rwanda in the expectation that eventually the courts will rule in his favour. i can't see him doing that. he doesn't seem to be that kind of a character. so in not doing that, i think, you know, it's going to be at least the next election , possibly after before election, possibly after before there is any conclusion to this eventual outcome in the courts. >> he was making some right noises talking about sovereign countries, britain deciding upon our own sovereign laws . no our own sovereign laws. no foreign court will stop it. it all sounds a bit brexity, but is it all empty words as you said, if this gets mired down in yet more legal challenges , which is more legal challenges, which is guaranteed to happen , this feels guaranteed to happen, this feels like back to the future . like back to the future. >> it's a merry go round for me.

i've heard it from boris johnson. priti patel, suella braverman even. what was her name that was in office for just a few weeks as prime minister. dear old liz, you know the same things are coming out from politicians time and time again. but actually we're still in the position where we're in, which is a court system in this country. if you want to abide by due process, then you have to go through the courts. if you want to, you know, throw that out and say, you know, emergency legislation. but that actually means we're going to ignore what the courts say and we're going to put them off to rwanda because we are confident that, you know, rwanda is a safe country. we provided the emergency legislation. yeah sure, you can get it done soonen sure, you can get it done sooner, but i you know, i'm really not convinced that rishi sunakis really not convinced that rishi sunak is that kind of politician that he is willing to circumvent the courts and send them off. it

will have to go through to the court system like all the previous appeals have. >> and you'd also expect the likes of amnesty international , likes of amnesty international, the international human rights charities to challenge this declaration that rwanda is safe at all. i mean, they've been banging on for months and months and months that it's not. so can the british government just decide arbitrary really immediately, overnight this is the will that another the case. will that be another channel of legal attack? i think , if nothing else, the last couple of years have shown us just how expert the human rights lawyers, the lefty lawyers, as the detractors of those particular lawyers and the human rights groups have become , are rights groups have become, are at being able to put mount very sophia rusticated and success ful challenges in the courts . ful challenges in the courts. >> they're very good at it. they have won constantly in the courts with 1 or 2 exceptions and they will continue to do that. of course, that's their whole, you know, raison d'etre .

whole, you know, raison d'etre. you know, that's what they will do. so don't expect any different outcome from them. they will argue until they're blue in the face to try to get the best result for those that they're representing . and well, they're representing. and well, let's see what happens with the new emergency legislation nation, whether that will be any more successful . more successful. >> well, okay, mark white, excellent stuff. and let's cross live now to chris hope, who's at downing street, just been inside that conference. chris rishi talking tough talking the great fight, rwanda is safe. emergency legislation . no foreign courts legislation. no foreign courts will stop these flights. he's making all the right noises. the trouble is, is this groundhog day . day. >> well , we've heard it before >> well, we've heard it before from so many different leaders, martin, i have my question for you. i was going to ask the prime minister. will you bet me will you bet gb news viewers a pint of beer that a single migrant will take off next year and to rwanda and just have and fly to rwanda and just have and fly to rwanda and just have a chance to ask my question. but

i going to say, because he i was going to say, because he did say the first flights will take in spring and take off in the spring and they're emergency they're going to be emergency legislation. a new treaty, they're going to be emergency legfact, ion. a new treaty, they're going to be emergency legfact, an. a new treaty, they're going to be emergency legfact, a new a new treaty, they're going to be emergency legfact, a new treaty new treaty, they're going to be emergency legfact, a new treaty with treaty, in fact, a new treaty with rwanda ratified both rwanda rwanda ratified by both rwanda and the house of lords and the uk. the house of lords is a whole battleground for this kind of legislation. i mean, he's hoping it's going to he's he's hoping it's going to work. wait and see. but work. let's us wait and see. but i've some response here i've got some response here already suella braverman, i've got some response here alreadfast suella braverman, i've got some response here alreadfast turning.a braverman, i've got some response here alreadfast turning into averman, i've got some response here alreadfast turning into mrrman, who's fast turning into mr sunak's of sunak's nemesis, an ally of suella braverman, tells news suella braverman, tells gb news tonight treaty which tonight this is a treaty which is in legislation. it's is putting in legislation. it's another version of plan a, he'll be stuck in the courts again. it's more magic tricks from rishi's magical thinking. this is not very helpful. that's not a labour mp, a labour leader. that's his own party saying that about his plan. he's looking embattled. he he, i thought in that room there with the pm, i was able to lucky enough to be in there for gb news viewers. you sense his frustration. he felt he was angry about this, but he's going to abide by the supreme court and merely supreme court ruling and merely find a new a new piece of legislation to overrule it and go about bring the policy to

enact it on behalf of the people who voted him in in 2019. he's frustrated , but will he get this frustrated, but will he get this through? it's more talk like he is saying by the spring we're going to hold him that gb news. >> i don't think he would have taken a single pint of beer. i mean, we often joke about the fact he sent more foreign secretaries to rwanda than he has deported asylum seekers. it just makes you wonder politically , chris, we've been politically, chris, we've been talking a lot these last days about suella braverman seems to have really kind of hit her stride with the tory hardcore, the mainstream tory voters. in fact, the telegraph, the express, the mail seem square behind suella. do you think rishi has done enough today to try and win any of those people back ? back? >> well, we'll we'll see. we'll see in tomorrow's newspapers . i see in tomorrow's newspapers. i mean, the pm did say there that he pointed out that we may have missed it, but there's been some some reforms in the european court of human rights. they're going to name the judges who

make about our lives in make choices about our lives in the unbelievably they the future. unbelievably they weren't named until weren't actually named until monday. submissions monday. we can make submissions as a country into these courts before they decide what to do. you thought that's part of natural justice? i mean, the reforms, echr is making reforms, the echr is making appear to me so limited as almost laughable. but and the pm recognised that he knows he's got to go further. it's all about the sovereignty of parliament. was brexit parliament. that was what brexit was about. martin as you well know, and that's what he's trying make sure he can show trying to make sure he can show that in time for next may. the first in may, first flights take off in may, he but really well, he claims. but really well, let's and he wouldn't let's wait and see. he wouldn't take but if i if i'd take my bet, but if i if i'd made it with him, i will wait and see. >> and a key statement as well he came out with, which >> and a key statement as well he came outwith, which is very, very true. many people very true. i'm sure many people watching the show, will very true. i'm sure many people wathbritishe show, will very true. i'm sure many people wathbritish people's will very true. i'm sure many people wathbritish people's patience echo british people's patience cannot stretched forever . cannot be stretched out forever. he about the fact he also opined about the fact that boats are down by a third, but that's because of the weather. it seems to me rishi's best chance is to do a rain dance on the cliffs of dover .

dance on the cliffs of dover. >> there's no question of whether does help . i mean, he whether does help. i mean, he did say this problem didn't exist until 2019, 2020. and i've been told by senior figures who were close to the home office at that point that the reason why it's happening is because before that , lots of migrants it's happening is because before that, lots of migrants came through the channel on through the channel tunnel on trains, because when those trains, because when those trains during the covid trains stopped during the covid pandemic , they then they pandemic, they then then they had to go across the water. now, until people have until that point, people have thought was too dangerous to thought it was too dangerous to cross channel. it is still cross the channel. it is still dangerous for people when they cross. but enough are getting across to make the business model these people. model worth it for these people. traffickers on his plus side, he is that with albania, the is saying that with albania, the deal with albania means a third down year. say it's bad down this year. you say it's bad weather. would that's weather. he would say that's a deal with albania. that's that's stopping the issue at source. and been able to and that's why it's been able to happen. really , we're a long happen. but really, we're a long way anywhere near way away from anywhere near stopping did stand stopping the boats. he did stand there slogan the there with the slogan stop the boats on his on his plinth. there with the slogan stop the boats on his on his plinth . he's boats on his on his plinth. he's not hiding from that pledge. it certainly won't happen this yeah certainly won't happen this year. but the real question

marks about whether it might year. but the real question marks aeven whether it might year. but the real question marks aeven if1ether it might year. but the real question marks aeven if the er it might year. but the real question marks aeven if the electionht year. but the real question marks aeven if the election is happen even if the election is in january 2025, sure the in january 2025, he's sure the first take off in may. first flights take off in may. we'll have to wait and see on that. >> and chris, you're on a lot of the political whatsapp groups, with journalists, with politicians. what's the immediate from immediate reaction been from within the westminster circuit to this ? has it landed well or to this? has it landed well or doesit to this? has it landed well or does it feel like it's just a bit more hot air? >> my phone's been turned off as i went in. martin so i haven't been to look at my phone since then. but certainly miriam cates, who a co—chair of the new conservative group of tory mps, she made clear this a or she made clear this is a make or break moment the prime break moment for the prime minister. lot of people minister. a lot of people on especially elected red especially those elected in red wall seats miriam cates, wall seats like miriam cates, are spent snottsta and stocksbridge in 2019. stocksbridge elected in 2019. they has got to they feel that the pm has got to get a grip of these small boats. it's almost a i mean, not it's almost a i mean, we're not even talking legal net even talking about legal net migration. that's next week's story. the that you can story. but the fact that you can have tens of thousands of illegal migrants arriving here over the channel is over the channel illegally is almost symptomatic almost symbolic or symptomatic of of grip on this issue.

of a lack of grip on this issue. there so far one mp has put there are so far one mp has put a letter of no confidence in into the leadership of rishi sunak. we know that andrew jenkin, as many as six more will put theirs in this week. she was told last night in the division lobby. let's wait and see. but this getting a it's not this is getting a bit it's not quite existential for his his premiership, but certainly in the with the the polls with the with the tories 30 behind labour, tories 30 points behind labour, according news polling tories 30 points behind labour, accoweek, news polling tories 30 points behind labour, accoweek, he's news polling tories 30 points behind labour, accoweek, he's got ws polling tories 30 points behind labour, accoweek, he's got to polling tories 30 points behind labour, accoweek, he's got to get.ing this week, he's got to get a grip. this week, he's got to get a gnp.he this week, he's got to get a grip. he knows that. i sense the frustration, but he's got to find in him to make big find it in him to make big political, bold choices. we'll wait and see if he do that. wait and see if he can do that. >> hope, live from >> okay, chris hope, live from downing thank for downing street. thank you for your analysis that your expert analysis on that press conference. will it be enough satiate those who feel enough to satiate those who feel angry about suella getting the sack ? and she's come back sack? and she's come back fighting on this, calling it yet more magic ? it seems chris was more magic? it seems chris was saying mark white was saying there are so many barriers to this happening. the lords , the this happening. the lords, the high the supreme court , high court, the supreme court, strasbourg, the charities. will it ever happen ? there's loads

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had dup co weeknights from. six >> welcome back. >> welcome back. >> it's 521. you're watching or listening to martin daubney here on gb news. now in the last few minutes rishi sunak has revealed that ministers want to see migrant flights to rwanda take off by next spring. after all, the big question now is what happens next? what should the government do to tackle the migrant crisis ? well, to help migrant crisis? well, to help sort this mess out, i'm joined by stephen wolff, who's the director of the centre for migration and economic prosperity and the former labour party spokesman, james matthews . party spokesman, james matthews. wolfie, can we start with you? rwanda was dead and buried this morning . the supreme court ruled morning. the supreme court ruled against it. so sunak look sunk , against it. so sunak look sunk, but we've just seen a dramatic development where he's claiming emergency legislation will make rwanda a safe country, not a

foreign court will stop any of the flights because of sovereign powers of british law or ruling above the any european court. the big question is, do we believe him ? believe him? >> okay, martin, good afternoon. i listened in great detail to the supreme court's decision this morning, and i think many people are actually getting a miss a mistake in the judgement itself. >> the judges did not say that the policy of sending people to third countries was inappropriate or wrong. what they were saying is the program that included rwanda was wrong because in their view, they did not believe that there was enough evidence to show that there was safety and security from refoulement. for those who were sent to rwanda. so that gives the door open to the government to firstly send it to a country that is regarded as safe and secure. the second point i would raise about it is that there is a lot of concern

in african states now that they regard this as an element of colonial racism towards rwanda because after all, last year on the un website, if you go there right now, you will see that the unhcr states that a 127 refugees are being housed in rwanda, that they are working under an emergency transit mechanism to host refugees moving from country to country . and they're country to country. and they're also aiding rwanda with voluntary repay patriation. so if the unhcr is saying that it's perfectly okay to work with rwanda in that sense, why do they say , as they did in the they say, as they did in the court? rwanda government has a poor record on extrajudicial killings. the media and political atmosphere is tense on all of this. relates to rwanda not being capable of looking after it. what i think here is the government now will try and interject a policy, as you've heard today from your commentators, that i think will fail. the policy can work . but fail. the policy can work. but what what rishi sunak now is proposing will never get off the

ground. >> okay . let's bring now labour >> okay. let's bring now labour party spokesman james matheson. james, we're expecting lots of challenges to this . as we heard challenges to this. as we heard from chris hope, we heard from mark white, there would be no doubt the lords he'll have to get through that. the high court, the supreme court, strasbourg and of course the labour party. no doubt the labour party. no doubt the labour party. no doubt the labour party will challenge this, will they? keir starmer rishi sunak pointed out today dunng rishi sunak pointed out today during prime minister's question time hasn't voted for a single law that's helped to tackle immigration. so starmer, you'd expect will be dead against this irrespective . irrespective. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> and what an enemy to have against you on this policy as well. a man who knows how to use the law to manage to get things done because that's keir starmer's area of expertise at the end of the day, it's not rishi sunak. and when you come to it you look at this to it and you look at this situation that we're in and situation that we're now in and you it's an absolute you realise it's an absolute dream the labour party, dream for the labour party, nobody asked policy on nobody asked for this policy on the doorstep . i mean i've just

the doorstep. i mean i've just rang round afternoon some rang round this afternoon some former staffers are former labour staffers who are to talking some people who are leading campaign this leading campaign groups this afternoon, person afternoon, not a single person on the doorstep has asked for this . on the doorstep has asked for thishe . to see this policy >> he wants to see this policy that, you know, the conflation between wanting something between wanting to see something done and the done about immigration and the rwanda are miles apart. rwanda policy are miles apart. >> and yet he's stuck to it and he's now clinging to it like a life raft and the man sinking. you know, this government is an absolute embarrassment. mean, absolute embarrassment. i mean, you from stephen there, as you hear from stephen there, as he's just said, it's unlikely to get the ground in its get off the ground in its current capacity . so what we're current capacity. so what we're going to see now is a man desperately clinging to his last policy, boats . policy, this stop the boats. there we go. we can see it on the screen. stop the boats. stop the screen. stop the boats. stop the boats. it's all we've heard until blue in the face and until he's blue in the face and unfortunate to be unfortunate he's not going to be able a single able to stop a single boat, which somebody like myself which for somebody like myself who couldn't care less about stopping and all this stopping boats and all this false kind of idea of red meat that he's flinging around in hopes that it'll help him keep the red wall, it's a dream come true. >> well , james, i think you've

>> well, james, i think you've dismissed this at your peril. i spend a lot of time in the red wall campaign and fighting. in fact, i was elected as an mep immigration was a huge concern then. it remains an even bigger concern now. i don't think it's a good idea to laugh this off. back to you. stephen, we are expecting stephen resistance to this surge certainly from the labour party, definitely by the sounds of it, if we're to believe james. but also what about this key point of the government just deciding that rwanda is now a safe country ? rwanda is now a safe country? you'd expect the likes of amnesty international, all these very well funded and very well motivated , very influential, motivated, very influential, very annoying charities to be all over this. every every way along the ground. now, stephen, this will get fired at from left, right and centre, won't it? they don't want this to work. do you think they'll be able to stop it or do you think rishi will meet this and rishi will meet this target and actually get a flight away by next well deeply next spring? well i'd be deeply surprised . surprised. >> i think you're

>> and i think you're christopher hope said, would i get a beer if you managed to get the planes off by next year? i think really you need to hold by the whole city of manchester a beerif the whole city of manchester a beer if you managed to get anyone anywhere near a plane by in the middle of spring next year because it just will not happen. first and foremost, look at in terms a legal at it in terms of a legal position . he has to get through position. he has to get through parliament and then the house of lords emergency legislation where he states that rwanda is a safe country once it's in a legislative position and they start to move people onto the planes, is exactly where he was in 2021. about the rwanda policy. and that's exactly what both priti patel and suella braverman has said about this legislation. it's no, it might be regarded as a plan b by by the government, but it certainly isn't a plan b when it comes down to the courts, because it's open to challenge. then across the route. and that will take us way beyond the next general election. and would say

election. and what i would say to my friend from the labour party there is , is when this party there is, is when this gets handed over to them and it will they won't be able to stop it either. they will be at least as many people coming over on the boats. there's another 30,000 coming over on the backs of lorries . and as we see across of lorries. and as we see across europe at the moment, this year, 560,000 have entered into italy and more are coming into greece. and they will make their numbers across. so this will become a huge problem for the labour party as well. and they have no solution to this. >> james, let's put that point to know, if you think to you. you know, if you think this will away with a this issue will go away with a change of government or another failed of legislation , failed piece of legislation, then stephen wolf is saying you better coffee because better smell the coffee because this an issue the this will be an issue and the labour need a plan in labour party will need a plan in place sort it out. you can't place to sort it out. you can't simply knocking. rishi all simply keep knocking. rishi all the tory party for failing to get to grips with it. what will the labour party do? >> you're right. they'll need a strategy and they'll be strategy and they'll need to be able policies able to propose actual policies that however, the that make sense. however, the difference that they've difference will be that they've not it their key slogan.

not made it their key slogan. it's about perception. and right now rishi sunak looks the weakest . any prime minister in weakest. any prime minister in recent years has . i weakest. any prime minister in recent years has. i mean, compared to liz truss , who stood compared to liz truss, who stood her ground and went with her ground and went down with the rishi sunak right now the ship. rishi sunak right now looks a man was made looks like a man who was made a pledge, made a load materials pledge, made a load of materials about that pledge, stood in front even front of them and now can't even get pledge through. i mean, get that pledge through. i mean, it's about weakness. about it's about weakness. it's about perception. in perception. the labour party in government be making it government won't be making it a top to stop the boats top priority to stop the boats because we know why that language has been used and the labour party is and remains a party progressive for party that is progressive for progressive values and progressive representation, which migration as a which supports migration as a way and protecting asylum seekers and asylum seekers rights as well. we should be processing them here on our own soil. >> okay, james matthewson and stephen woolf , we're going to stephen woolf, we're going to have to leave it there. thank you, gentlemen, for superb input. there's loads more still to come between now and 6:00. in a minutes. i'll be joined by a few minutes. i'll be joined by a few minutes. i'll be joined by a member house of lords a member of the house of lords who's criticised the police for not standing two poppy not standing up for two poppy sellers caught the

sellers caught in the pro—palestine last pro—palestine protest last weekend. but first, here's your latest news headlines with polly middlehurst . middlehurst. >> well, the top stories this houh >> well, the top stories this hour. the prime minister says he will introduce emergency legislation to deem rwanda a safe country and prevent legal . safe country and prevent legal. challenges. it comes after the supreme court ruled this morning that the government's rwanda plan was unlawful because it may deport migrants back to the country they fled from. rishi sunak says he doesn't agree with the ruling, but he respects it and he says the european court of human rights would still be able intervene new able to intervene in a new treaty, but won't be able to block flights. he says he'll do all can to bring fundamental all he can to bring fundamental change to the country . change to the country. >> we are a reasonable government and this is a reasonable country. but the british people's patience can only be stretched so thin and they expect the boats to be stopped. that is why i made it

one of my five priority is and whatever our critics might say, we are making progress because the rwanda scheme is only one part of our strategy. last december, the number entering the uk illegally in small boats had more than quadrupled in just two years . two years. >> meanwhile, the labour leader's amendments to the king's speech debate calling for humanitarian pauses in the fighting in gaza will shortly be debated in the commons. it comes as an snp amendment calling for an immediate ceasefire will also be debated by mps. we'll be covering that live of course, right here. gb news. all those stories too on our website. gbnews.com . for a valuable gbnews.com. for a valuable legacy your family can own . legacy your family can own. >> gold coins will always shine bright. rosalind gold proudly sponsors the gb news financial report . report. >> a quick snapshot of today's markets in the pound buying you

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organised by the palestine solidarity campaign. there's so many people here, thousands of people. they've actually shut the road outside of the houses of parliament. we're pretty much at the centre of that action. if i just step out of the way and just let you have a quick look at what's going on, we can see here absolutely thousands of people holding signs saying stop the genocide, free palestine and israeli occupation. you can see there a large group of people have actually climbed up onto the security banners here outside of parliament that seems to be the centre of this protest that they're leading the chants. there setting off green smoke flares as well into the crowd . flares as well into the crowd. megaphones and drums are going to lots of people concealing their identities with masks and all ages of protesters . others all ages of protesters. others here today from the very young to quite old as well, and oaps , to quite old as well, and oaps, too, in this group of people . too, in this group of people. police very much just standing by and allowing this protest to

take place at the moment. in fact, the only interaction i've seen between police was with two young lads who took those electric scooters onto the road. that's the only intervention that i've actually seen from them so far . that i've actually seen from them so far. now, i'm actually got one of the protesters i can talk to. valley, thanks for joining me. why are you here today? >> well, i think it's quite clear that israel is enacting terrorism on the people of palestine in gaza , it's been palestine in gaza, it's been more than 30 days of continue this bombing, murdering children, murdering anyone who stands in their way. >> and so i think it's important to stand for what you believe in and to call for a ceasefire >> of course, this was all started by a terrorist act committed by hamas on october the seventh. >> do you condemn hamas now? do you accept that there a terrorist organisation? >> i condemn israel using the excuse you condemn hamas? >> i condemn israel for. do you

condemn hamas? you've already condemned israel. now, do you condemned israel. now, do you condemn hamas ? condemn hamas? >> i don't think that needs to be the first question that's been asked. >> it was the second question, 30 days of israel using the excuse of these attacks. >> so do you condemn the terrorist act of israel or not? of course i condemn the attack. >> well, it took quite a lot to get it out of you. >> okay . well, that's the sort >> okay. well, that's the sort of people that we have, some of the views that we have down here at this protest. obviously, there range views. there are a range of views. i was talking to people earlier as well. a lot people saying well. a lot of people saying that do condemn what hamas that they do condemn what hamas has very reluctant to has done, but very reluctant to admit is a terrorist admit that hamas is a terrorist organisation. why are people here today? why are why are people here today? because they want mps to hear their views loud and clear that they want a ceasefire to be voted for soon on the front line there. >> good on you mate, for asking that question. and once again, they wouldn't answer it just like corbyn wouldn't the like jeremy corbyn wouldn't the other , 15 times he was

other night, 15 times he was asked, why is it they so asked, why is it they find it so hard condemn hamas? now? hard to condemn hamas? now? moving on, joining us is shaun woodward, former labour mp. shaun, thanks for joining us on gb news. so we're heading towards a crucial vote tonight. are expecting the labour are you expecting the labour frontbenchers to revolt or are we expecting yet more palestine problems on this vote tonight ? problems on this vote tonight? >> well, let me save you one question, which i'm sure will come my way, martin. >> i condemn hamas. >> i condemn hamas. >> i condemn hamas. >> i did on the day and ijoin >> i did on the day and i join keir starmer in doing it. >> and i join keir starmer. absolutely. in saying that israel has the right to defend itself. what is going to happen tonight is that some people, i suspect, will rebel against the tip of the labour party and that is their right. luckily we live in a democracy. people, if they choose to do so, can do so, but they'll lose their frontbench job. and i think they're really interesting thing here, martin, is that we're seeing a very strong leadership from keir starmer, unequivocal on defending israel, defending its

right to support itself, asking for humanitarian pause. i know you , martin, don't want to see you, martin, don't want to see people to die unnecessarily , but people to die unnecessarily, but israel does need to defend itself . and hamas is a terrorist itself. and hamas is a terrorist organisation. and the leader of the labour party is focussed on that. and as we've seen , rishi that. and as we've seen, rishi sunak today is sadly unable to be focussed on it because he has a civil war going on inside the conservative party with scores of his members of parliament threatening his leadership . a threatening his leadership. a very different kind of position for rishi sunak. i almost feel sorry for him tonight. >> almost , sorry for him tonight. >> almost, but probably not quite. sean no doubt the civil war at the heart of the conservative party is manna from heaven to you. i mean ordinary . heaven to you. i mean ordinary. ali the galls are split. this vote tonight. the prospect of starmer having to sack as many as ten ministers would be front page news must be delighted that the tories are fighting like rats in a sack . rats in a sack. >> i don't think anyone's

delighted the people find themselves in this situation and i think, martin, you know, again , you i'm absolutely certain, like me , is regretting any loss like me, is regretting any loss of life that's unnecessary in gaza at the moment . gaza at the moment. >> the problem is, though, israel is in a position in which on october the 7th, it was attacked mercilessly by a terrorist organisation and the terrorist organisation and the terrorist organisation and the terrorist organisation needs to be dealt with. now. these cowards, as as we know, have hidden underneath hospitals. israel has to deal with that now, quite rightly, what keir starmer is saying now is we do need longer pauses to get humanitarian relief in and we of course need to get the hostages out. the thing that amazes me about people who unequivocally support one side against another is they tend to lose sight of the nearly 250 hostages who continue to be held by hamas. why doesn't hamas release them ? why doesn't hamas release them? >> shaun woodward former labour

mp speak in absolute common sense there absolute common sense there absolute common sense . a lot of people will sense. a lot of people will agree with that and well done for calling out hamas as a terrorist organisation. why is that so hard for many people in the party to even say, the labour party to even say, thanks for joining the labour party to even say, thanks forjoining us? the labour party to even say, thanks for joining us? okay. the labour party to even say, thanks forjoining us? okay. in thanks for joining us? okay. in the same week that the government's was government's rwanda plan was derailed , it's emerged that more derailed, it's emerged that more and more migrants are being given permits before given work permits before they've even been given asylum. i'm martin daubney on gb news. this is britain's news channel .

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>> welcome back. it's 544. you're watching or listening to martin daubney here on gb news. now let's get more on our top story. only one story today, of course, and that is prime minister sunak saying he's minister rishi sunak saying he's desperate flights off the desperate to get flights off the ground and they're working to get plane to rwanda by next get a plane to rwanda by next spring. well join me now in the studio is the wonderful baroness kate hoey. kate, we were watching the pictures there from westminster ray addison with those protesters building up. you've just come from the house of lords. you that crowd. of lords. you saw that crowd. ray speaking there about ray was speaking there about once the police seeming once again, the police seeming to stand off these protests despite the fact they're climbing on the fences at the parliament. what do you make of the seeming two tier policing we're witnessing? >> yeah, well, there were certainly mingling and beginning to really get into a crowd as i left and all around westminster, there are police vans . the there are police vans. the police are everywhere. so there's obviously clearly enough police to really police it

properly. >> i'm afraid what we've seen is and i did ask a question the other day about it in the lords, because it did seem to me that the police must have been given rank and file policemen must have given an order from have been given an order from the softly on the commissioner to go softly on these protesters. >> now, i'm expecting them >> now, i'm not expecting them to and bash protesters . to go in and bash protesters. >> we all want the freedom to protest . >> we all want the freedom to probut . you >> we all want the freedom to probut. you see situations >> but when you see situations as we did with, say, for example, of the poppy example, some of the poppy sellers being pushed aside by protesters and by the feeling that all these people are doing things that are clearly breaking the , many of them, the law, many of them, particularly relation to particularly in relation to banned and terrorist banned groups and terrorist groups. and yet the police don't do time. and do anything at the time. and i just think that we've we've got to kind of change that attitude. >> otherwise, what we're going to get is not only are we losing confidence in the police, a lot of people over all sorts of of people are over all sorts of issues, particularly met. issues, particularly in the met. but also it's going to lead to people just feeling that demonstrations should be banned and, you know, i don't want to

see that. >> i do believe in in liberty and sort of views, but i am worried about it. and i think i just now that we have got a new home secretary, i hope that he's making it very clear to the commissioner and to all the other police forces that they've got to police this in a way that is that is evenhanded. and i just don't think it's been even handed. >> and we've seen some terrible pictures of police refusing to get involved. >> that's true. now, before we get on to suella braverman , what get on to suella braverman, what do you make of rishi today ? it do you make of rishi today? it feels like groundhog day. talking to rwanda's a safe country. flights will leave by the spring. do you believe that? >> no, i don't. and i was listening to him on the way up. and, you know, he does. he does. i mean, to be fair to him, and, you know, he does. he does. i mean, to be fairto him, he i mean, to be fair to him, he comes across as very passionate about it and very determined and wanting believe that he wanting us to believe that he really is wanting to change the country going do all country and he's going to do all these but the sad thing these things. but the sad thing is, you know, he's had over a year now to have done some of this pre—work and got some of

this pre—work and got some of this legislation through. i mean, pretty clear that mean, it was pretty clear that our our judges do our i'm afraid ourjudges do seem to tend to always rule in a way that perhaps i would not like to see them ruling on issues. >> and may i interject? and do you think that this new wave of legislation might be resisted in the house of lords? >> well, it definitely will be resisted in the house of lords. the house of lords is very many of my fellow peers seem to think that there should be literally open i mean, they'll open borders. i mean, they'll not that, but they'll class, not say that, but they'll class, they'll always they'll dress it up, as always talking about human rights. but, you you have to this is you know, you have to this is the way that this has been handled. and, of course , he's handled. and, of course, he's you know, i mean, i do think that if we could get one flight to off rwanda, it would genuinely probably make a difference would would act as a deterrent because the pull factor i went down and watched people coming in at dover and it was absolutely clear that many of them have heard that, you know, life is very much better here than living in a living in a plastic tent in france. so, of

course, they're going to come here. so the pull factor has to be addressed, too . and certainly be addressed, too. and certainly i do agree that he's started to stop using five star hotels to put people . but most of all, put people. but most of all, i just think it's people who are basically breaking the law and then being treated differently from those who've come in legally to claim asylum. >> and that brings it on to suella bravermans fiery rhetoric and her resignation letter. i know in particular you want to talk about her comments on northern ireland. >> yes . and she i mean, what was >> yes. and she i mean, what was very interesting, clearly she's had an agreement before she came out him. and let's out and supported him. and let's not that vote or her not forget that her vote or her decision to back rishi sunak made huge difference. and one made a huge difference. and one of those was that she had got him to agree because she's been a very strong brexiteer and a very strong supporter of opposing the protocol and recognised that northern ireland is being driven away from the rest of the united kingdom and also that it would allow the

rest of the united kingdom to go back into the european union much more easily and she had an agreement that was going to agreement that he was going to allow the protocol bill to go through also the bill that allow the protocol bill to go throug have also the bill that allow the protocol bill to go throug have got 0 the bill that allow the protocol bill to go throug have got rid1e bill that allow the protocol bill to go throug have got rid of bill that allow the protocol bill to go throug have got rid of all that allow the protocol bill to go throug have got rid of a lot1at allow the protocol bill to go throug have got rid of a lot of would have got rid of a lot of our eu regulations and he's completely ignored that. and i think she i'm very glad that she is a woman who actually says what she thinks. you know, i know she's get a lot of stick and she's been told basically that she's just someone who's bitter because she's been sacked. but think most people sacked. but i think most people who that letter will who read that letter will realise was passionate realise that she was passionate about what she was doing and she genuinely believed she genuinely believed that she could things different in could make things different in the home office. it's not worked. >> you see, many years of political infighting. you've seen them fight like cats and dogs. how does this debacle , dogs. how does this debacle, this this, this catastrophe at the moment compare to some of the moment compare to some of the great battles you've seen over the years? >> well, i was in in the chamber , of course, years ago when geoffrey howe made his his speech. and i'm hoping that suella braverman be able to suella braverman will be able to come and make a speech where

come in and make a speech where she explains it because you remember the geoffrey howe speech. really put the knife speech. he really put the knife into the prime minister, mrs. thatcher, the time. but you thatcher, at the time. but you know, nothing, nothing actually to be fair, will ever be bigger than what went on in the debacle after we left the european union and the determination of so many members of parliament to stop us leaving and of course, they they they managed to get brexit through. but it's not it's not been completed. and that fight continues. >> okay. well, baroness kate hoey, thank you for making sure you're on the front line of that fight. it's always a pleasure and thanks for coming to the studio. means great deal. studio. means a great deal. thank okay, moving on. thank you. okay, moving on. let's on top story, let's get more on our top story, rishi sunak reaction to the supreme court's ruling that the rwanda is unlawful . rwanda plan is unlawful. >> the facts are clear . this >> the facts are clear. this government has done more and delivered more than any government in the last five years to tackle illegal migration. but to fully solve this problem , the rwanda policy this problem, the rwanda policy is a necessary deterrent. that's

why it's important that the supreme court has today confirmed that the principle goal of removing asylum seekers to a third safe country is lawful because it means that when we have addressed the supreme court's concerns, people will know that if they come here illegally , they will not get to illegally, they will not get to stay and so they will stop coming altogether , for that is coming altogether, for that is how we will stop the boats. in recent years, many people have lost faith in politicians ability to do the things they said they would do. they fear that politicians ones are more interested in grandstand ing than delivering for the british people . so i've been determined people. so i've been determined to change that, to deliver on the commitments that i make. i committed at the start of this year to halve inflation and back then inflation was 10.7. but new figures released this morning by the office of national statistics show that inflation is now 4.6. i'm not saying the

job is done. many people have struggled and continue to struggled and continue to struggle . we must stay the struggle. we must stay the course until inflation returns to target . but it shows that to target. but it shows that when i said we would halve inflation, i meant it when i said i would stop the boats , i said i would stop the boats, i meant it. today's judgement has not weakened my resolve . it has not weakened my resolve. it has only hardened it and we will deliver that too. thank you. >> well , that was rishi earlier. >> well, that was rishi earlier. is it all groundhog day? well, coming up next is michelle dewberry. she's just joined me in the studio. you'd have been watching that with bated breath . watching that with bated breath. what do you make of it and what you got coming up on your show? i was watching it outbreath, actually, because when you say i've i i've just joined you 20s ago, i had a sprint to get on to had to do a sprint to get on to this time. >> i made though, by the skin >> i made it though, by the skin of my teeth. of course, of my teeth. well, of course, what a big day again in uk politics, going to get politics, so i'm going to get stuck into all of it. what stuck right into all of it. what doesit stuck right into all of it. what does it take actually, for this country to genuinely have

sovereignty and sovereignty over who can and can't this country and can't come into this country and what policy and what our asylum policy can and cannot look like? all well and good standing good young rishi sunak standing there tough, using his there talking tough, using his take back control rhetoric. but do we believe of a single syllable of it? will he be able to put into practice what he preaches? and of course, towards the end of the programme labour will be gearing themselves up to tear themselves apart as well . tear themselves apart as well. what a british politics is. >> it is.- >> it is. is. >> it is. but what fantastic fodder for people like you and me. well, i mean great tv shows we're getting out of this because it's the gift that keeps on giving. it's calamity. >> yeah, but i've got to say it. give me. give me lower ratings and a stable country any day of the week. i want political integrity. i want continuity , integrity. i want continuity, and i want happiness. and united fronts in this country . see, fronts in this country. see, i would much rather not be having to kind of feast on this kind of diet of ridiculousness, if i'm honest. >> having said that, people tune in to your show because they like to see people having a good old dig each other. have you

old dig at each other. have you got on tonight? >> i've got dawn neesom, who i often to as prawn neeson. often refer to as prawn neeson. if anyone watches programme, if anyone watches my programme, you know the reasons you will know the reasons why. and stadlen so and matthew stadlen as well. so good debate coming up. good robust debate coming up. >> off with >> it normally kicks off with stadlen and this labour vote tonight think is going to be tonight i think is going to be really one to watch and the labour party be so grateful labour party must be so grateful that their division, their palestine problem even palestine problem isn't even on the been the front pages. it's all been taken the tories. well, taken over by the tories. well, i'll tell you what, there's no one more grateful. >> i imagine richard tice >> i imagine the richard tice ice this we talk about ice because this we talk about the gift keeps on giving the gift that keeps on giving all on at moment is all is going on at the moment is that will absolutely be that people will absolutely be finding themselves in finding themselves over in reforms that reforms direction. is that a good not? i don't know. good thing or not? i don't know. >> me. that's all >> wells can tell me. that's all coming on dewbs& co. i'm back coming up on dewbs& co. i'm back same tomorrow. thanks for same time tomorrow. thanks for tuning in. this is gb news at alex burkill here again with your gb news weather your latest gb news weather forecast. we have across >> the rain we have across northern parts will northern parts today will clear away, some frost and away, leading to some frost and fog but then we have fog overnight. but then we have some wet and windy weather currently waiting out to the southwest of the uk that is going to push its way across

southern parts as we go into tomorrow. back to this evening. southern parts as we go into tom

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sigh of relief. why? well do you remember his five point plan specifically point two, which was to half inflation completely idiot, mate. yes, that is right. it looks like life is finding getting cheaper. good news for all of us. and these days, who does not want some of that? how much of it, though , was down to much of it, though, was down to rishi? cheers cheers to you. alas, the party vibes. they did not last long because literally hours after that announcement, i can tell you what happened next. the bubble. well and truly burst . the supreme court ruled that

the government's plan to send migrants