sigh of relief. why.7 well sigh of relief. why? well do you remember his five point plan specifically point two, which was to half inflation completely idiot, mate. yes, that is right. it looks like life is finding getting cheaper. good news for all of us. and these days, who does not want some of that? how much of it, though , was down to much of it, though, was down to rishi? cheers cheers to you. alas, the party vibes. they did not last long because literally hours after that announcement, i can tell you what happened next. the bubble. well and truly burst . the supreme court ruled that the government's plan to send

migrants to rwanda was unlawful . migrants to rwanda was unlawful. but worry not because in a bid to take back control, rishi sunak arc has just said that he is going to create emergency legislation and i quote no foreign courts will stop flights taking off. do you believe him by the way, though, the words are not just confined to the tories. over in labour land, there are tearing themselves apart about vert which will take place in about an hour's time, over whether or not to call for a ceasefire in the israel hamas conflict. i've said this every single day so far this week . single day so far this week. there is never a dull day in . there is never a dull day in. politics oh, the excitement . do politics oh, the excitement. do you feel richer today? do you feel better off? we're going to get into all of that and more. but before we do, let's cross live for tonight's latest headunes.

headlines. >> michelle, thank you. well, good evening to you. and the top story tonight is that the prime minister says he will intervene, use emergency legislation to deem rwanda a safe country and prevent any legal challenges in future. and it comes after the supreme court this morning ruled the government's rwanda plan was unlawful . rishi sunak says he unlawful. rishi sunak says he doesn't agree with the ruling, but he does respect it. he also says the european court of human rights would still be able to intervene in a new treaty but won't be able to block flights. he says he'll do all he can to bnng he says he'll do all he can to bring fundamental change to the country. here's what he said. >> we are a reasonable government and this is a reasonable country . but the reasonable country. but the british people's patience can only be stretched so thin and they expect the boats to be stopped . that is why i made it stopped. that is why i made it one of my five priorities. and whatever our critics might say,

we are making progress because the rwanda scheme is only one part of our strategy . last part of our strategy. last december, the number entering the uk illegally in small boats had more than quadruple . in just had more than quadruple. in just two years. well the labour leader, sir keir starmer, is facing a frontbench rebellion tonight . tonight. >> three labour frontbenchers, in fact have defied his calls to back a ceasefire ahead of a crunch commons vote . shadow crunch commons vote. shadow ministers anas sarwar helen hayes and afzal khan broke ranks with their party leader as they signalled their plans to vote for an snp amendment to the queen's speech backing a ceasefire completely. labour frontbenchers are facing the sack if they back the amendment as sir keir's position is to call for a humanitarian pause in the fighting . but snp the fighting. but snp westminster leader stephen flynn has said parliament must show moral leadership . well ahead of moral leadership. well ahead of that vote. pro—palestinian

supporters have been gathering outside of westminster and separately protesters have been removed from the house of commons earlier after holding up a ceasefire now signed during the king's speech debate , a the king's speech debate, a group of 5 or 6 people stood up and held aloft messages as the shadow home secretary, yvette coopen shadow home secretary, yvette cooper. if you're watching on television, you can see her now turned to the israel hamas conflict in her speech , which conflict in her speech, which the protest group extinction rebellion, claiming responsibility for that protest . responsibility for that protest. meanwhile, turning our attentions to the middle east and israel says it's carrying out a precise and targeted operation today against hamas in the city's largest hospital. hundreds of patients are said to be trapped inside the al—shifa hospital as fighting there continues. the israeli military says it believes hamas has a control and command centre beneath the site. the terrorist group hamas denies that . israel group hamas denies that. israel says it has delivered medical aid, incubators and baby food to the hospital . but the world

the hospital. but the world health organisation has reacted , health organisation has reacted, saying contact has been lost with doctors and clinicians inside the hospital since those raids began . well, news here at raids began. well, news here at to home 12 year old boys have been arrested on suspicion of murder after a 19 year old was stabbed to death in wolverhampton, west midlands police say sean cyhi was attacked in east park on monday night and he died at the scene . night and he died at the scene. well, you were hearing just now about the good news on inflation. the government says it has delivered on its pledge to halve inflation with price rises slowing down at the fastest rate in two years. the latest data indicating inflation was . 4.6% in october. that's was. 4.6% in october. that's down from 6.7% in september after a fall in energy costs and house prices has helped reduce that figure, which is still, though, above the bank of england's 2% target . and lastly, england's 2% target. and lastly, the prince of wales has called for action at every level to

what she's calling rebalance society as social skills. during her speech on early years development in children, princess kate addressing a conference where key research from her royal foundation centre for early childhood was being outlined as she hosted the early years shaping us campaign event at the design museum in london today. and she stressed the importance of early years development in children . development in children. >> this is not just about the youngest children in our society who are, by their very nature vulnerable. it is also about the many young people and adults who are suffering . we must do more are suffering. we must do more than simply meet the short term needs of these individuals. we must also look at creating long term preventative change and that takes us right back to the beginning. >> the princess of wales speaking earlier on today with gb news across the uk on tv in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play on your smart speaker by saying play gb news. this is britain's news channel .

news channel. >> hi there, i'm michelle dewberry and i'm with you till 7:00 tonight alongside me. i've got the former editor of the daily star, dawn neesom, and the political commentator matt stadlen. good evening to both of you. and you know the drill, you guys at home, don't you? it's not just about us. it's very much about you guys as well. what's on your mind tonight? you can touch all the usual can get in touch all the usual ways . i'm can get in touch all the usual ways. i'm almost as ways. i'm almost laughing as i say because what a it say that because what a day it has again for british has been. again for british politics. do you make to it politics. what do you make to it all? vaiews@gbnews.com or you politics. what do you make to it all? tweetws@gbnews.com or you politics. what do you make to it all? tweet me?gbnews.com or you politics. what do you make to it all? tweet me at�*news.com or you politics. what do you make to it all?tweet me at gbvs.com or you politics. what do you make to it all?tweet me at gb news. or you politics. what do you make to it all?tweet me at gb news. nigelu can tweet me at gb news. nigel says , michelle, what are you says, michelle, what are you doing with the opening of your show? are you drunk? no. nigel i am not drunk. thank you very much. i'm just drunk on happiness. quite frankly, because this world is because sometimes this world is so depressing. some of the stuff we report is so. well, we have to report is so. well, i just lose my words with it all sometimes. so you know what? sometimes when good things do happen, i think it is important it just to take a moment to have

a little bit of fun with them and appreciate the goodness, because i talk, course, about because i talk, of course, about the inflation does the fact that inflation does seem to be coming down, which of course is news for all of course is great news for all of us. but will indeed be overshadowed what i'm about overshadowed by what i'm about to come to in a second, which to come on to in a second, which is the rwanda plan. yvonne says, thank making thank you very much for making me smile. you're very welcome , me smile. you're very welcome, yvonne. but let's kick off with that very top story, shall we? suella today was the big day. the supreme court ruling about whether or not our government can send migrants to rwanda. well, if you've not heard already, a spoiler alert. the answer was no, they cannot. it is unlawful. let's cross live. he keeps me company. is unlawful. let's cross live. he keeps me company . what he keeps me company. what a lucky man, everyone. he's in the in the studio. i can't remember the last time. i'm so lucky studio. >> i'm so lucky. >> i'm so lucky. >> yes. i can't believe when was the last time we was together? a long time ago. >> far too long. >> far too long. >> probably reporting on something that and something that was doom and gloom. but look, tonight, right? what the goings what did you make to the goings on with the ruling of the

supreme court? >> never story. >> it's a never ending story. saga we've been talking about this. it seems, for years. and that's because effectively we have we got remember from boris johnson in april of last year, the announcement of the rwanda plan . a couple of months later, plan. a couple of months later, the plan was on the tarmac just about to take off. and then at the last minute, the european court intervened. and then it's been mired in the court system in this country ever since . and in this country ever since. and of course, the end the crunch day was supposed to be today and it was ruled unlawful . but where it was ruled unlawful. but where are we now? we are going back effectively to square one, because even though rishi sunak says he is introducing emergency legislation , even though he says legislation, even though he says there is going to be a treaty in which the rwanda government is going to enshrine in in that treaty that they will not deport anyone from rwanda, even if they are turned down for asylum in

that country , it will still have that country, it will still have to be tested in the courts here. so it will still go back to the high court and then whoever loses will no doubt appeal. it'll go to the court of appeal . it'll go to the court of appeal. it'll go to the court of appeal. it will go to the supreme court. we will be stuck, it seems, in this continued cycle for many months to come. a very expensive cycle, i hasten to add as well . cycle, i hasten to add as well. >> lee anderson, he was speaking out today. he basically said i'd ignore the call . ignore the call. >> well, that's certainly one thing the government could do , thing the government could do, but i don't think rishi sunak is that kind of a character that he would just ignore for international law and due process. he clearly wants to go through that particular route. the emergency legislation is upping the ante . of course it is upping the ante. of course it is in terms of enshrining in law that as far as this government is concerned , rwanda is a safe is concerned, rwanda is a safe country that will have to then be taken on board by the courts when they reach a determination . when they reach a determination. but we know over over recent

months and years just how expert the human rights lawyers, the so—called lefty lawyers have become in being able to mount very effective challenges. they've done it very well indeed up till now. and they will continue to do that . they will continue to do that. they will continue to do that. they will continue to do that. they will continue to challenge as is their job. continue to challenge as is theirjob. they continue to challenge as is their job. they want to represent these people to the best of their ability . me, i best of their ability. me, i can't see. despite what rishi sunak says about the flights finally taking off for rwanda in spnng finally taking off for rwanda in spring next year , that happening spring next year, that happening because what you're referring to there is of course, rishi sunak. >> i think it was about quarter five, about an hour or so ago, an hour and a half ago. he then did this press conference, didn't he was. i don't didn't he, where he was. i don't know what you thought, but i found his rhetoric. it seemed to me tough rhetoric. it me to be tough rhetoric. it seemed to be on this kind of taking kind of taking back control kind of rhetoric. seemed me to be rhetoric. it seemed to me to be a back some of the a direct push back some of the criticisms that suella made of in which come on to in the

in which will come on to in the letter second, but what did letter in a second, but what did you make this whole emergency you make to this whole emergency legislation thing? >> rhetoric, yes, >> well, tough rhetoric, yes, but the same from but i've heard the same from bofis but i've heard the same from boris johnson, priti patel, liz truss, suella braverman in her time. it's the same rhetoric , time. it's the same rhetoric, but the end result is also the same. that it just the can gets kicked down the road of yet another legal proceeding and another legal proceeding and another challenge. let's see what happens when the emergency legislation is passed . that in legislation is passed. that in itself will probably take a bit of time because without a doubt the lords will kick it back a few times as back to the commons anyway . so once that has anyway. so once that has cleared, eventually , as they cleared, eventually, as they hope, then what happens? it'll have to be tested, as i say in the courts , there's a lot to get the courts, there's a lot to get into on this subject. >> i want to look at those very damning paragraph from suella letter last night about this very topic. i want explore very topic. i want to explore that. i want to ask what should happen about this happen next then what about this whole echr ? should we be whole echr echr? should we be leaving that or not? but for now

, matthew, a couple of lines from you think to from you. what did you think to the today? well it's not the ruling today? well it's not for me to quibble with the ruling. >> i suspect that they got it spot and key thing is spot on. and the key thing is that the government pretty much knew this how the court knew that this was how the court would it. i mean, pick your would find it. i mean, pick your own adjective, pick own own adjective, pick your own noun fiasco , shambles, chaos. own adjective, pick your own noun fiasco , shambles, chaos . we noun fiasco, shambles, chaos. we are just months out from a general election. and let's remember that this is the government's flagship policy and it has failed enormous amounts of our money. taxpayers money has been wasted so far. huge amounts more look set to be wasted as well and effectively the plan b on rishi sunak part. and we know that suella braverman , who he sacked this braverman, who he sacked this week, said that he didn't have a plan b, the plan b involves going to parliament and trying to get to parliament change the law to pretend that rwanda is a safe country . it isn't. safe country. it isn't. >> well, arsenal football clubs seem to think it is and they seem to think it is and they seem to think it is and they seem to very. >> it's a beautiful country. it's a beautiful country, but

it's safe if you're an it's not safe if you're an asylum seeker. >> dawn, you spent time >> and dawn, you spent time there. come on to that in there. we'll come on to that in a but now, just your a second. but for now, just your your initial thoughts on that ruling today, it's not a surprise, it? ruling today, it's not a suerou�*, it? ruling today, it's not a suerou just t? ruling today, it's not a suerou just knew it was going to >> you just knew it was going to happen. and from now, the first rule of holes is just stop digging. i think what rishi sunak today frankly sunak said today was frankly pathetic. i with suella pathetic. i agree with suella braverman. any braverman. he doesn't have any spherical whatsoever spherical objects whatsoever and it's all rhetoric. and for it's just all rhetoric. and for him and say so, let him to come out and say so, let me tell everyone now, i will not allow a foreign court to block these flights. well, it's a british court. british judges, british court. british judges, british it's just british legislation. it's just the idiot. sorry. the man's an idiot. sorry. >> of my john, he >> one of my viewers, john, he says, it taken so long says, why is it taken so long for rishi to start talking about emergency legislation? because, of when covid happens, of course, when covid happens, a lot stuff went lot of emergency stuff went through. when you look at places like their like australia, they had their whole operation sovereign borders, one of the key aspects, what did very quickly, they what they did very quickly, they appointed the military to lead their response. they defined an emergency their response. they defined an emergerwhy has it taken us quickly. why has it taken us such a long time to seemingly do the same? >> i think it's a very valid

point. i think, you know, prime ministers by and large, like to try to stick by the rule of law. you know, britain is proud of its reputation as being one of the founders of european law. europe and human rights laws and legislations that, you know , if legislations that, you know, if they were to go against that, to circumvent that, to push flights out there in defiance since of these human rights laws, then as a nation it you know does us in the eyes of these politicians tremendous s damage. and really undermines our credibility in being able to stand up there and to say to other nations that are in defiance of human rights that you are infringing people's human rights. if we are doing the same, that i think is uppermost in their minds, can anyone not see the irony here of the british government being willing to break the law, to

stop other people breaking the law? >> i mean, it doesn't make any sense. >> it is completely remarkable that the deputy chair of the ruling party, lee anderson, and i'll talk to him about this and debate this with him on his own show later in the week is encouraging the prime minister to break the law, not break international law. that's bad enough. our own law . enough. break our own law. >> jj, you've really made me laugh. you've got quite a good summary, which i don't think i can repeat at teatime, but i do like your very quick responses to this. i've got to say, not many of you at home are feeling comforted by rishi sunaks words. i don't think many people actually believe it's going to happen very quickly. if you were a betting man, would you put a wager on these flights actually getting off ground before wager on these flights actually getting cgeneralround before wager on these flights actually getting cgeneral election?)re wager on these flights actually getting (general election? not the next general election? not a chance. at home, would you, chance. you at home, would you, john? >> nope.no john? >> nope. no chance. would you? >> nope. no chance. would you? >> very, very unlikely. >> very, very unlikely. >> oh, do you know what? i'm going to play devil's advocate. if i stick tenner on it, if i would stick a tenner on it, maybe know. about maybe i don't know. what about you home? do you believe

you guys at home? do you believe rishi what you make to rishi sunak? what do you make to that today? and what that ruling today? and what should do you have a should we do next? do you have a better idea than what is currently happening? get in touch. i'm to know if you touch. i'm dying to know if you do. i'll you

radio. >> hello there, michelle dewberry till 7:00 tonight. and a lot we have to discuss keeping me company while we do. the former editor of the daily star dawn neesom and the political commentator matt stadler. now, before the break, we were just talking about the latest going on when it comes to the supreme court's ruling on the rwanda plan. now, i just want to cast your mind back. i mean, it feels like a lifetime ago because so much has happened since then, everybody. but if you can just cast your mind back. well, i don't know. less than 24 hours ago, i think it is so ago, i think it is now. so suella letter, which suella bravermans letter, which ihave suella bravermans letter, which i have here. i just want to read

out to you a paragraph in this which specific plea relates to the supreme court's situation today. the supreme court's situation today . she says, if we lose in today. she says, if we lose in the supreme court an outcome i have consisted argued that we must be for , prepared you will must be for, prepared you will have wasted a year in an act of parliament only to arrive back at square one. worse than this, parliament only to arrive back at sqmagical�*. worse than this, parliament only to arrive back at sqmagical thinking,1an this, parliament only to arrive back at sqmagical thinking, believing your magical thinking, believing that will your way that you can will your way through without upsetting through this without upsetting polite has meant that polite opinion has meant that you have failed to prepare any sort credible plan b. i wrote sort of credible plan b. i wrote to you on multiple occasions setting out what a credible plan b would entail and making clear that unless you pursue these proposals the event of proposals in the in the event of defeat, is no hope of defeat, there is no hope of flights side an election flights this side of an election , says. received no reply , she says. i received no reply from you. she summarises by from you. she she summarises by saying, i can only surmise that this is because you have no appetite doing what is appetite for doing what is necessary therefore no real necessary and therefore no real intention of fulfilling your pledge to british people . pledge to the british people. now that was very, very damning . now that was very, very damning. do you think that this government had a plan b? >> no, no . i'm government had a plan b? >> no, no. i'm not government had a plan b? >> no, no . i'm not entirely sure >> no, no. i'm not entirely sure that a workable plan . i to be

that a workable plan. i to be honest with you, no, there was no plan b, there was no exit strategy. there is. that's where we are where we are now with rishi sunak. given that ridiculous today coming ridiculous speech today coming out with all the big boy rhetoric little short rhetoric in his little short trousers saying absolutely nothing, given nothing, we've already given £120 million to rwanda. we've already spent over £1 million on legal costs. it will cost £170,000 per migrant to fly them to rwanda. no one's going to get on that plane. it's not going to happen. now, deep rotation to a third country has not been deemed illegal today. just rwanda because of the human rights issues. with that country. so if they want to if they want to carry on doing this and other countries, do we know australia, does it, denmark are doing belgium are trying to doing it. belgium are trying to doing it. belgium are trying to do it well. many and germany, do it as well. many and germany, many other countries trying many other countries are trying to world country. to use a third world country. it's just the right third world country. ascension island, british territory will get around all the legal issues, but it's a rock and the trying to set that up would just cost too much money. >> the fact that rishi

>> i think the fact that rishi sunak telling all that sunak is telling us all that he's to try and push on he's going to try and push on with the rwanda plan suggests that there is no plan b in terms of otherwise of another country. otherwise he'd be talking that up, he'd be he'd be talking that up, wouldn't that? problem with wouldn't that? the problem with the problem with third countries wouldn't that? the problem with the pr(would with third countries wouldn't that? the problem with the pr(would with thiripressed es wouldn't that? the problem with the pr(would with thiripressed to is you would be hard pressed to find outside of europe find a country outside of europe that would be prepared to take our asylum seekers that would actually definition of actually fit the definition of being safe. on your point about suella braverman, i mean, this is an extra ordinary letter. i saw someone sort of poke fun, fun at it on social media. it's the sort of thing that someone would send to their boyfriend or girlfriend been dumped girlfriend if they'd been dumped a a spurned lover a letter. it's a spurned lover letter. it's very, angry. letter. it's very, very angry. but no mistake , this is but make no mistake, this is more a political headache more than a political headache for because he is for rishi sunak because he is going to come under relentless fire. now, from the right of his party. and don't forget, i was chatting to richard tice backstage a little bit earlier in the green room. he represents a huge threat to the conservatives chances . any conservatives chances. any chance they have at the next election because he could steal

second nificant numbers of votes for votes from them from the right . so sunak and the tories right. so sunak and the tories are being attacked from the left. they're being attacked from the centre and they're being attacked from the right. >> just remind you because >> let's just remind you because if didn't see any rishi's if you didn't see any of rishi's speech earlier he was speech earlier on, he was talking tough. let's have a listen. >> we could still face challenges from the european court of human rights in strasbourg. i told parliament earlier today that i'm prepared to change our laws and revisit those international relationships to remove the obstacles in our way . so let relationships to remove the obstacles in our way. so let me tell everybody now, now i will not allow a foreign court to block these flights . yeah yeah. block these flights. yeah yeah. >> you see, that's absolutely fascinating. and that is very tough talking. i've got to say. it should really be common sense. a country should have sovereignty what does sovereignty over what it does when it to borders and when it comes to borders and asylum there you asylum policies. but there you go. we just talk then about a letter that people are saying was bombshell got was a bombshell yesterday. i got to tell you, another one to tell you, i read another one today, i find even more today, which i find even more mind blowing in some regards.

let share some of it let me let me share some of it with you. it's it was in the telegraph today and it was from an anonymous servant. an anonymous civil servant. right week has left right he says this week has left my home office colleagues celebrating . he's talking about, celebrating. he's talking about, of course, this ruling . he then of course, this ruling. he then goes on to say how he feels that so many people in the civil service have no kind of desire at all to try and reduce people coming into this country. he says , as many of my colleagues says, as many of my colleagues might think, to ring the mental health services to check on my sanity . if i were to walk into sanity. if i were to walk into a meeting and suggest reducing migration, he then goes on to say, senior staff hold events on black history month, windrush and microaggressions. we have to attend quarterly away days, etcetera . he says when his etcetera. he says when his colleagues felt that they seemed a millimetre closer to working on a rwanda scheme that was past many of them were bombarding messaging boards, staff messaging boards, staff messaging boards, staff messaging boards with comments, vowing they would never work on such an evil project. now rishi sunak can talk as tough as he

likes , but if this is to be likes, but if this is to be believed and this is the attitude among the civil service, how on earth is he going to get anything through ? going to get anything through? >> well, this is this is where the civil service are ridiculously politicised now. and that happened under the last labour government under tony blair. that needs sorting blair. and that needs sorting out james cleverly. when he went into the home office, he gave a speech, he got a round of applause. so hopefully he will actually be able to sort the issue out a bit better than his predecessors. mean, the predecessors. but i mean, the thing you say, michel, thing is, as you say, michel, why you've got civil servants like most of them are like that and most of them are still working from home, still aren't they okay with that attitude? to attitude? you're never going to get the whole get anywhere. the whole system is the whole system is a mess and the whole system needs sorting out. but i really i one thing i do agree i mean, the one thing i do agree with suella i'm not entirely with suella was i'm not entirely rishi any idea what rishi has any idea about what he's going do next. he's going to do next. >> i just say this really >> could i just say this really important and cleverly in that speech, thought was good speech, i thought it was a good speech. it very good. i'm speech, i thought it was a good spe�*a h. it very good. i'm speech, i thought it was a good spe�*a conservativel good. i'm speech, i thought it was a good spe�*a conservative voter,. i'm speech, i thought it was a good spe�*a conservative voter, but| not a conservative voter, but i thought he'd gave a good speech and said civil

and he said that the civil service are unfair. he attacked from the outside this is distraction stuff. whoever wrote this, servant wrote it, was civil servant wrote it, it was published by the telegraph. the people are responsible for people who are responsible for the rwanda policy the failure of the rwanda policy are is their are the government. it is their policy. and they have failed. policy. he and they have failed. and i think we have to pay really close attention, michel, to by the to the language used by the prime because he said to the language used by the pri wouldn't because he said to the language used by the pri wouldn't allow:ause he said to the language used by the pri wouldn't allow ajse he said to the language used by the pri wouldn't allow a foreign;aid he wouldn't allow a foreign court to block these flights that. you what that. do you know what that means? expects means? it means he expects further down the line as he continues to pursue this bonkers policy , that it will be met with policy, that it will be met with legal challenge . there is no way legal challenge. there is no way these flights are going to take off, is it, before the next election? i matthew calls election? i mean, matthew calls it bonkers policy. it a bonkers policy. >> got say, i find the >> i've got to say, i find the rwanda plan quite sensible. when you it as was intended, you apply it as it was intended, which a deterrent. you guys which is a deterrent. you guys tell me at what you made to tell me at home what you made to it and what you to the it and what you make to the ruling against today. now, good news. i was trying to allude to this in a subtle kind of way at the opening of my show, but of course, we did have a little bit of good news today. it's got

lost in, of course, all the drama surrounding rwanda. but look, inflation that was of look, inflation that was one of rishi's top five priorities to half it. he's achieved that. is that good news? and is it down to him .

radio. >> hello there, michelle dewberry with you till 7:00 tonight. matthew stadler and dawn neesom remain alongside me. alex says, michelle, please , can alex says, michelle, please, can you all leave sunak alone ? he is you all leave sunak alone? he is absolutely trying his best. i mean, that got a laugh from dawn there, i have to confess. and me? do you and matthew as well . me? do you and matthew as well. do you guys believe that ? are do you guys believe that? are you backing rishi sunak still ? you backing rishi sunak still? of course. we've seen already , of course. we've seen already, didn't we? we saw one letter of no confidence going in yesterday, and apparently there was rumours of another six apparent be either been

submitted already and potentially going in. i just sit there. i think . what are you all there. i think. what are you all doing? what is the matter with you?ifs doing? what is the matter with you? it's like a monumental act of self harm. are you really that? do you not look inward and see what you're doing to yourself anyway? see what you're doing to you michelle, lay? i see what you're doing to youmichelle,/ay? i just quickly >> michelle, can i just quickly say married to a say i'm married to a conservative? it might surprise viewers was very excited viewers and she was very excited when when david cameron when my wife when david cameron came suella came back. but she read suella suella braverman's letter with horror because the tory party is tearing itself apart months out from an election. >> but i mean , with all due >> but i mean, with all due respect, that is not a fantastically intellectual insight which makes me then wonder why do they not see that? because it's pretty damn obvious. so i don't know what goes on sometimes what what it was, what it was designed to illustrate is just that the conservatives are in a mess and we are so close to an election. >> you have to have party unity. if you want to win a general election. >> a few people say, please, can you tell everyone that the un

don't seem to think rwanda is that unsafe ? lynne says they've that unsafe? lynne says they've been sending migrants and refugees to rwanda for years. james says this plan would never stop the boats. basically you just think that it will keep going and keep going. do you think it's actually would be a deterrent? i do. i don't know. i'm in the minority there. but i do think if you're going to get on a dinghy and randomly end up in rwanda or lord knows where you might think twice about getting that dinghy, many of getting on that dinghy, many of you, though, saying you, though, are still saying that just don't believe that you just don't believe rishi says, i don't rishi philip says, i don't believe it's just believe a word of it. it's just more and more delay. and more talk and more delay. and yet still, boats keep yet still, the boats keep coming. can i just coming. michelle, can i just quickly say something really important on rwanda thing? important on the rwanda thing? >> kagame , who is >> paul kagame, who is the president, an authoritarian president, he's an authoritarian leader been in power since leader who's been in power since 2000. he's been in power for 23 years. his human rights record is appalling. i years. his human rights record is appalling . i would go to is appalling. i would go to visit rwanda if i wanted to go and see gorillas or go climbing. it's a beautiful country . as you it's a beautiful country. as you said earlier, it sponsors arsenal . if you're an asylum

arsenal. if you're an asylum seeker, it's not a safe place thatis seeker, it's not a safe place that is actually not statistically proven . statistically proven. >> i mean, in the world corruption index, rwanda actually index better than seychelles , mauritius cape seychelles, mauritius and cape verde, are all no. one no verde, which are all no. one no one has a problem with any of those countries. i mean, having been to rwanda, albeit a long time ago now, at the end of time ago now, the at the end of the genocide, i think there is an element of racism here. and i don't like to play the race card about it being an african country. it's a scary african country. it's a scary african country. we can't say we can't possibly send people there. well i mean, actually, by the way, and the party that and it was the labour party that first came up with this idea. tony blair actually suggested sending asylum seekers to a third country for processing in 2004. and he actually suggested tanzania . so this is not new. tanzania. so this is not new. both parties have suggested just to answer that on my part, i can't speak for other people. >> there's nothing racist about calling out the human rights record of a country, whether it's in africa anywhere else. it's in africa or anywhere else. >> the un use it for >> the un, the un use it for processing migrants already.

it's constantly voted one of the best in africa to go best countries in africa to go to if you a migrant. so to if you are a migrant. so i mean, i don't understand the issue all well and issue and it's all well and good. >> we're talking today about this treaty and all the rest this new treaty and all the rest of why this is why i of it, but why this is why i understand why when you're not planning that getting planning that and getting all your just in case your ducks in a row just in case the went the it did, the ruling went the way it did, that remiss of sunak and all that was remiss of sunak and all the rest of it, if you ask me. now, look, there was some good news i got excited about at news that i got excited about at the start of the programme, but it has massively been overshadowed. of course, i'm talking about that talking about the fact that inflation remember rishi sunaks talking about the fact that infleprimezmember rishi sunaks talking about the fact that infleprime priorities. tishi sunaks five prime priorities. well one of all halving of them was all about halving inflation and done that . inflation and he's done that. everybody, will just bring up inflation and he's done that. eicouple y, will just bring up inflation and he's done that. eicouple of will just bring up inflation and he's done that. eicouple of graphics: bring up inflation and he's done that. eicouple of graphics foring up inflation and he's done that. eicouple of graphics for yourp a couple of graphics for you just give a little of just to give you a little bit of context when comes to this context when it comes to this look. the uk cpi now , so it's look. so the uk cpi now, so it's just figures come out today. so october 2023, we're . at 4.6. october 2023, we're. at 4.6. september 2023, we're at 6.7. and to just give you context, because of course the month that we're compared it to is october

20th, 22 and the rate there was 11.1. yes. so it sounds good, doesn't it, for the uk? i hear you cry, but let's just compare ourselves internationally as well. if i can do that, just to give you a bit of a flavour as to where we stand. so as i'm mentioning, our inflation 4.6% euro zone inflation is down at 2.9% and us inflation 3.2. so make of that picture , ladies and make of that picture, ladies and gents, what you will. matthew what do you make to it? >> but just very quickly, obviously, this is a good news story for rishi sunak because he said, didn't he, that one of his pledges was to bring inflation down by half by end of the down by half by the end of the yeah down by half by the end of the year. and that has been achieved. that. achieved. two points to that. two is it's been two caveats. one is it's been absolutely out of the absolutely blown out of the water, intended. it's water, no pun intended. it's been obliterated the failure been obliterated by the failure of his flagship rwanda scheme. so the inflation figures. so that's the inflation figures. no are going to be the no good are not going to be the headune no good are not going to be the headline news tomorrow. and i think point is just think the second point is just a very simple one. he really very simple one. does he really deserve credit for it? is the bank of england is independent,

is bank of england that is the bank of england that deals interest and deals with interest rates and global can global forces as well, can impact on inflation. so quite how policy rishi sunak how what policy of rishi sunak would credit for bringing would you credit for bringing down inflation? >> it has to be said this. this has been predicted for a long time, isn't it? the steep time, isn't it? and the steep fall was the largest monthly drop 1992. it wide , we drop since 1992. it was wide, we expected. so it was a bit like someone turning around and saying a bit colder someone turning around and sayirthe a bit colder someone turning around and sayirthe next a bit colder someone turning around and sayirthe next few a bit colder someone turning around and sayirthe next few months. der someone turning around and sayirthe next few months. but over the next few months. but it's to me. no, it's it's all down to me. no, it's because it's winter. was because it's winter. it was probably happen in any case. >> yeah, but i mean, i think there was a little bit of jeopardy attached to it because the last figures didn't go down in that was expected. in the way that was expected. and see what a name. and lady, see what a name. i like that you say this is all a coincidence and you're putting capital is capital letters. this is absolutely do with absolutely nothing to do with rishi sunak. he's just capitalising on it. you see, it's still a good story for him. what i found interesting, though, if it had gone the other way, inflation. so it had way, inflation. so if it had continued increasing, would sunak that is my sunak have then said that is my responsibility because you can't have both ways. you can't have it both ways. you can't take credit when it goes down

and credit. and then not take the credit. well, the abuse, the reason it's a good story is because when you go into an election talked go into an election we talked about earlier. about party unity earlier. >> crucial. you also >> that's crucial. but you also have have economy as have to have the economy in as good shape as possible because for all the culture wars, we spend a lot of time talking about whether people afford spend a lot of time talking ab pay whether people afford spend a lot of time talking ab pay their|er people afford spend a lot of time talking ab pay their bills ople afford spend a lot of time talking ab pay their bills orle afford spend a lot of time talking ab pay their bills or not, afford spend a lot of time talking ab pay their bills or not, canford to pay their bills or not, can afford to pay their mortgages, can afford to put stuff on the food on the kitchen table. that is so important. yeah. >> says , how come no >> and kerr says, how come no one's talking about the fact that food inflation is still in double yes. you double digits? yes. yes. you make point. there make a very good point. there raymond your intro, raymond says in your intro, michelle, you made out that we're all getting richer. et cetera . it's not that at all, he cetera. it's not that at all, he says. we're just getting poorer at a slower rate. i was just trying to be optimistic, you know, i just think there's so much doom and gloom . i do accept much doom and gloom. i do accept that i am probably yet again in a minority of one. but you know what? i can cope with that. and i frequently do often. and, you know, must be kicking himself know, he must be kicking himself rishi sunak because like literally single thing

literally every single thing that goes wrong that can go wrong does go wrong. that's what i was trying to get across in my intro. it must have woken up this morning. yeah. high five me inflation literal. only hour inflation literal. only an hour or later. income the next or so later. income was the next hurricane of the supreme court. it'll get a break. the thing is. >> okay if you're in >> right. okay if you're in charge something. mean, charge of something. i mean, i edhed charge of something. i mean, i edited national newspaper for edited a national newspaper for a time. if you're in charge a long time. if you're in charge of anything. right, a long time. if you're in charge of it's nything. right, a long time. if you're in charge of it's nynationalght, whether it's a national newspaper tv or, newspaper for a tv company or, heaven forbid, a country, you actually have be a more actually have to be a bit more organised than this. have to organised than this. you have to have b, you have to have a plan b, you have to actually have the you have to be convinced by what you're doing. and i really don't believe he is. and while i think suella letter is, is frankly childish and like a lover that's been spurned , i think she does make spurned, i think she does make some points and i just don't think he has the courage of his own convictions. >> michel , own convictions. >> michel, you say he can't catch a break. the thing is, do you remember the famous famous political saying events, dear boy events. the problem with this rwanda event for sunak is

it's an event almost entirely of his making and shows his own making, and it shows that government is that the government is incompetent because it cannot drive through its own flagship policy . policy. >> one of my viewers has said both you and matthew, you're being misogynist when you're referencing suella letter as like a, you know , like furious like a, you know, like furious ex because what they're saying, if that was james cleverly that wrote in those kind of terms, i bet my viewers says you wouldn't bet my viewers says you wouldn't be referencing exes and lovers and all the rest of it if it was and all the rest of it if it was a man writing to another man. >> no, i probably wouldn't. but if had a female prime if we had a female prime minister, believe had minister, i believe we've had a few. it was it was a male few. and it was it was a male cabinet minister writing to her. yes, i would say exactly the same. >> and i'd say exactly the same and i'd say the same. if it was and i'd say the same. if it was a man to a to a man, because guess what? men are in relationships with other men. >> something you want tell >> something you want to tell us, already discussed your >> you've already discussed your wife. >> e i heard i think it >> you know, i heard i think it was care for carly talking about >> you know, i heard i think it was supremezarly talking about >> you know, i heard i think it was supreme courtalking about >> you know, i heard i think it was supreme court ruling about this supreme court ruling and what were basically arguing

what they were basically arguing is that they think that actually what they were basically arguing is tiukthey think that actually what they were basically arguing is tiuk shouldink that actually what they were basically arguing is tiuk should haveiat actually what they were basically arguing is tiuk should have muchually what they were basically arguing is tiuk should have much more for the uk should have much more for many routes into the many more safer routes into the country, from anywhere many more safer routes into the coureverywhere from anywhere many more safer routes into the coureverywhere across anywhere many more safer routes into the coureverywhere across the 'where many more safer routes into the coureverywhere across the lands many more safer routes into the coureverywhere across the land , and everywhere across the land, across the world. >> think the >> so what i think the government needs to do is get down and do the nitty gritty stuff. i've been gb news stuff. i've been on gb news saying time again, what it saying time and again, what it needs do is needs to build needs to do is it needs to build relationships with other european governments. it needs relationships with other eu do ean governments. it needs relationships with other eu do the governments. it needs relationships with other eu do the sorternments. it needs relationships with other eu do the sort of�*nents. it needs relationships with other eu do the sort of thing. it needs relationships with other eu do the sort of thing it's needs to do the sort of thing it's done success with done with some success with albania a returns policy albania about a returns policy it to police our borders it needs to police our borders effectively and it needs to make sure that this backlog is wiped out once for and all. sunak today claimed he's making big progress on that. he should be making far more progress if we were if we were turning over asylum applications as quickly asylum applications as quickly as should be, there'd be no as we should be, there'd be no need whatsoever for the rwanda policy. >> it's to easy sit in. >> it's to easy sit in. >> it's difficult. it's difficult, it's easy to sit in a studio saying we should rattle through these applications. >> the reality of it that >> the reality of it is that these these people, these a lot of these people, they're deliberately obstruct they're deliberately obstruct the process. they deliberately took their away. they took their documents away. they deliberate , make statements deliberate, make statements that you really are challenged to

prove or disprove. and lawyers these days, they have they have become so good and so advanced, what i would call essentially playing the system to prolong these things. so it's not as simple as just saying speed it up , speed it up, speed it up. up, speed it up, speed it up. you've got to look at why it is taking so long and why it is so complex. and that is because so many people are playing the system. the second you start system. and the second you start pointing start pointing that out, people start crying victim crying saying, don't victim eyes. traumatise eyes. these traumatise individuals. i mean, come on. >> well, i think there's some truth in that, but it doesn't mean it's not the government's responsible to get on top of it. this is a government that's been in power in one form or another for 13 years. michelle well, i'll tell you, one of the other things people trying to things that people are trying to get when it comes to get across is when it comes to parliamentary procedures this parliamentary procedures in this country, you think that country, do you think that we should for should be calling for a ceasefire or not it comes ceasefire or not when it comes to hamas? to israel, hamas? >> the issue that is >> that is the issue that is absolutely tearing the labour party. i would say, apart at the seams at the moment. there's a

vote taking place imminently. we're going to have the latest on in a couple of minutes.

hello there, michelle dewberry with you till seven dawn neesom and matthew stadlen remain alongside me. one of my viewers on twitter has just sent us a message saying, you know, the land has really come to something when matthew stadlen is having to tell rishi sunak how to control a border . i'll how to control a border. i'll leave it at that and let you guys make of that what you will. now i can tell you now westminster in london, that area now is currently absolutely swamped. i'm going to try and get you some live footage, if i can, by protesters chanting ceasefire now! cease fire! now! i'm going to cross live to tom howard because this is quite a critical moment when it comes to

the labour party. tom howard, good evening to you. bring us up to speed with what is going on when it comes to this vote in the commons tonight . yes a huge the commons tonight. yes a huge amount of activity outside parliament right now and it's all because there are two different amendments to the king's speech before the house of commons this evening, two different amendments on gaza and israel, i should say. >> first, firstly, an amendment put forward by the labour party promoting what they call a humanitarian pause to hostilities . and secondly, an hostilities. and secondly, an snp amendment promoting an out and out ceasefire . now, why this and out ceasefire. now, why this is important is that keir starmer has struggled to control his party, really struggled to get his party to speak with one voice on this issue. keir starmer says a ceasefire would really help hamas commit more atrocities. but maybe 50, maybe more of his own. mps disagree

with him and take the line promoted by the snp and by jeremy corbyn saying that there needs to be a ceasefire. that's perhaps more than a quarter of his parliamentary party. but the most important thing here is it's not just his backbench mps saying this, it's some of his frontbench mps , those who are frontbench mps, those who are supposed to be his shadow ministers bound by what's known as collective responsibility city bound by saying the same thing as the labour party leader having won policy as a labour party. now, if frontbench shadow ministers vote against the labour party motion or vote for the snp party motion that would break collective responsibility and there's much suspicion that the labour party would then have to sack those shadow ministers. that could be more than a dozen shadow ministers facing the sack tonight for disobey saying keir starmer on this crucial issue.

>> well, do you think he'd follow through on that? it's a crucial question, but of course this is a man who criticised rishi sunak for not sacking suella braverman when she went against the prime minister's wishes and freelanced writing a letter to the times . letter to the times. >> now that broke collective responsibility. it would be very strange for sir keir starmer to say that suella braverman should be sacked for breaking collective responsibility, but maybe a dozen of his own shadow ministers. will they get a free pass to break collective responsibility ? if keir starmer responsibility? if keir starmer is going to be consistent on this issue, he would be sacking shadow ministers who vote with the snp and with jeremy corbyn and not with sir keir starmer and not with sir keir starmer and his labour party motion tonight . and his labour party motion tonight. it's going to be a crucial test of his leadership. >> it certainly is that vote. what is it? imminently about ten 15 minutes time? are we on track? are we on target with that? when do we get the outcome? >> we should be on track. we're going to get the labour motion

first that'll take around 20 first and that'll take around 20 minutes be the minutes and then there'll be the snp after that. so it snp motion after that. so it should all take place from around it should be around 7:00 and it should be wrapped by around seven 4745 wrapped up by around seven 4745 if goes according to if everything goes according to plan, well there you go. >> do not go anywhere viewers, because we will have the latest on that vote. but for now, tom howard, thank you for that update . as i said, everybody , update. as i said, everybody, imagine where parliament is around westminster right now . around westminster right now. there are a huge number of protesters. i'm going to try , if protesters. i'm going to try, if i can, to get you some of that live footage. i mean, we've seen it all before. lots of placards, lots of chants at ceasefire now. yes. you agree with that? i yes. do you agree with that? i think this important think this is important political moment for star, but i don't think he have chosen don't think he would have chosen to line whip if to impose a three line whip if he to follow he wasn't prepared to follow through. he wasn't prepared to follow thr(and. he wasn't prepared to follow thr(and to sack ministers or >> and to sack ministers or shadow ministers , rather, who go shadow ministers, rather, who go against the party whip. and i suspect in turn that the reason he's to prepared do that is because he wants to come across as and strong in his as tough and strong in his leadership and so we'll see what

the headlines are in the morning if he does sack people, because, of course, we've got the rwanda story, which is a massive story. it'd be very interesting to see which papers swing on it which way the papers swing on it on own personal i don't on my own personal view, i don't really see how you have a really see how you can have a full ceasefire with a death full on ceasefire with a death cult, i'm devastated as so cult, but i'm devastated as so many of us in this country are, by the what seemed to be the deaths of thousands of children and other innocents in palestine . have consistently called . and i have consistently called right from beginning right from the beginning for israel obey the laws of war, israel to obey the laws of war, to obey international law. >> i mean , i've got to say, this >> i mean, i've got to say, this really does divide opinion. david simply says absolutely not. there must be no ceasefire. mal says absolutely yes , there mal says absolutely yes, there should be a ceasefire. but all hostages need to be released first. dawn neesom, where are you on it? >> let's get this straight. when people are calling for a ceasefire, they mean is ceasefire, what they mean is that israel should stop firing weapons into gaza and stop the land invasion because hamas aren't. hamas is mission statement. when they became

elected in 2006 was to destroy the state of israel and indeed to destroy jewish people. hamas as matthew said, are a death cult. they will not ceasefire >> i just want to bring you up to speed with what is happening. you can just see this now. so this is the scene, the recent scene outside of parliament. i've got the sound down on that . i've got the sound down on that. it's incredibly noisy. of course, you'll be familiar with those chants by now, which is ceasefire now, cease fire now . ceasefire now, cease fire now. now, i saw there was a resignation, i think it was yesterday from a labour councillor. he was saying he didn't feel that labour was a safe place for british muslims . safe place for british muslims. >> i can only say, and i'm not a spokesperson for labour, that i'm very, very much hope that he's entirely wrong about that because to be completely clear about this and i say this as a jewish person, as islamophobia is just as cancerous as anti—semitism, there is no place for either in the labour party, in the tory party or in our society . and this is a time of

society. and this is a time of high tensions on our streets and we can see none of that sort of stuff, whether it's islamophobe here from the far right or it's anti semitism from some of the pro—palestinian pro—palestine marchers , david says. marchers, david says. >> do you think it's fair that the snp can bring amendments in westminster when labour and the tories wouldn't be able to do the in holyrood? the same in holyrood? >> it's not no, of >> well, it's not fair, no, of course it isn't fair. but it's the the ridiculous the it's the ridiculous situation . now, there is no easy situation. now, there is no easy answer to this and obviously everybody to the everybody wants to stop the killing, of killing, the innocent loss of lives on both sides. by the way, let's not forget how this started on october the 7th. the innocent loss of lives. and we've all seen pictures of we've all seen the pictures of the premature babies in their incubators. stop. but incubators. it has to stop. but it has to be on both sides. >> can i just make one more quick point about the israeli the israeli very the israeli side. it's very difficult prove war crimes difficult to prove war crimes when we're sitting in london studios . but when we're sitting in london studios. but very when we're sitting in london studios . but very concerned studios. but i am very concerned and been very concerned and have been very concerned by some statements that have some of the statements that have come the mouths of come out of the mouths of israeli politician. and are israeli politician. and they are completely despicable some of these it makes

these statements. and it makes me worry that israel has not been obeying international law more footage. >> i might try and take the sound on this one if i can. hopefully you weren't any hopefully you weren't here. any language don't to language that you don't want to at this time evening . language that you don't want to at this time evening. but at this time of the evening. but this scene outside of this is the scene outside of westminster, outside of palestine. if you're listening . palestine. if you're listening. well, firstly, i'll just shut up and let you listen for a second and let you listen for a second and then i'll describe it in case you're listening . i mean, case you're listening. i mean, i've got to say , there'll be a i've got to say, there'll be a lot of people offended by that because as you can hear, those people are standing there chanting israel is a terrorist state. they're chanting ceasefire. now, i've got to say in that letter, suella braverman , i wrote last night, she doubled down again on talking about these hate matches as she called them. she doubled down again on saying that rishi sunak didn't basically have the chops to be able to deal with it head on. i can tell you we'll have

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