a real challenge to sir keir >> a real challenge to sir keir starmer's leadership. he'd hoped that by offering a vote on a labour amendment, that would be enough to stave off a rebellion. but it was not to be. just over a quarter of labour mps , some 56 a quarter of labour mps, some 56 actively sided with the scottish national party and vote for a ceasefire despite quite explicit instructions not to do so. now eight shadow ministers and two parliamentary private secretaries have now left the front. the most well known example , i think probably jess example, i think probably jess phillips. she was shadow domestic violence and safeguarding minister proof that rishi sunak is not the only party leader struggling to manage his own party. >> katherine forster there . >> katherine forster there. well, pro—palestinian supporters held a mass demonstration opposite the houses of parliament earlier on this evening as that gaza ceasefire vote progressed . inside the vote progressed. inside the chamber, protesters were

chanting, we are all palestinian jews and holding up placards reading free palestine . the gb reading free palestine. the gb news team also heard anti—israel chants and witnessed anti—semitic slogans nearing the metropolitan police says the eventis metropolitan police says the event is now over , with officers event is now over, with officers making one arrest for possession of an offensive weapon . now, the of an offensive weapon. now, the prime minister says he'll introduce emergency legislation motion to deem rwanda a safe country and prevent future legal challenges. it comes after the supreme court ruled the government's rwanda plan unlawful . rishi sunak says he unlawful. rishi sunak says he doesn't agree with the ruling, but he respects it. he also says the european court of human rights would still be able to intervene in any new treaty agreed with kigali in rwanda. but it wouldn't be able to block flights, he said he'll do all he can to bring fundamental change to the country . to the country. >> we are a reasonable government and this is a reasonable country. but the

british people's patience can only be stretched so thin and they expect the boats to be stopped. that is why i made it one of my five priorities. and whatever our critics might say, we are making progress. whatever our critics might say, we are making progress . yes, we are making progress. yes, because the rwanda scheme is only one part of our strategy . only one part of our strategy. last december, the number entering the uk illegally in small boats had more than quadrupled in just two years . quadrupled in just two years. >> now a huge whale has been found dead on a beach in cornwall. it was discovered on newquay's fistral beach early this morning by members of a nearby activity centre . fin nearby activity centre. fin whales are the second largest mammal following the blue whale in the world. the authorities have urged members of the public to avoid the area until it can be removed . this is gb news be removed. this is gb news across the uk on tv in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news. this is britain's news channel. on.

>> hello and welcome to headliners. >> i'm andrew doyle and joining me tonight to make sense out of thursday is newspapers is the nonsensical louis schaefer and the eminently sensible nick big dog dixon welcome both. >> are you well it's annoying. >> are you well it's annoying. >> i've got a bit of sense on these days, you know what i mean? i know i used to be able to be funny and stuff. now i just do facts. just have to do the facts. >> with >> yeah, but whoever's on with louis the sensible louis has to be the sensible one, because otherwise it will just chaos. just descend into chaos. >> and the people out >> i think. and the people out there know they know that i'm there know they know that i'm the most sensible under this the most sensible one under this guise he's crazy. guise of like, oh, he's crazy. that's get away with it. yeah. >> there you are again, following what your twitter followers believing following what your twitter followaudience believing following what your twitter follow audience capture'ing following what your twitter follow audience capture .1g following what your twitter follow audience capture . it's them. audience capture. it's your audience. there we go. okay, , let's a look okay, well, let's have a look before thursday's before we begin at thursday's front pages. guardian is front pages. the guardian is leading pm to push leading with pm vows to push through rwanda after court through rwanda plan after court rules it unlawful . the telegraph

rules it unlawful. the telegraph is running with pm will use emergency law to start rwanda flights . the mirror emergency law to start rwanda flights. the mirror is emergency law to start rwanda flights . the mirror is nothing flights. the mirror is nothing sacred. that's the story we'll get to in a moment. the express has pm fights back. we will deport migrants. financial times defiant sunak vows to change law as top court strikes down rwanda policy and the daily star. november something about the weather there. those were your front pages . okay, we're going front pages. okay, we're going to kick off with the telegraph . to kick off with the telegraph. what are they leading with it says pm will use emergency law to start rwanda flights . to start rwanda flights. >> move comes after sunak's flagship policy was ruled unlawful by the supreme court. >> i watched prime minister's questions today. >> that must be a first. >> that must be a first. >> it is a it is >> that must be a first. >>itisaitisa >> that must be a first. >> it is a it is a first. i had trouble finding it and then i found it. and then watching found it. and then i'm watching it. and then. then i read and he was it was victory. was saying it was a victory. >> that's way you spin >> well, that's the way you spin it, well, was spinning it. >> well, the thing is, he has pledged to carry this through

from beginning. this from the beginning. i mean, this is that was is one of the things that was flagged suella braverman flagged up in suella braverman resignation letter. but, you know, has been ruled be know, it has been ruled to be unlawful . so he's know, it has been ruled to be unlawful. so he's a bit of a unlawful. so he's in a bit of a quandary, a pickle. quandary, a bit of a pickle. what do about it, nick? what does he do about it, nick? well, yeah, there's two countries understood countries that have understood to be replacing rwanda doesn't say which might be scotland and wales, but that would make sense. >> yeah. can just say. can >> yeah. can i just say. can i just say that that's what i was going really? that's going to say. oh, really? that's what going say. oh, i'm what i was going to say. oh, i'm so be the two so sorry. rumoured to be the two countries rumoured countries are rumoured to be wales scotland. wales and scotland. >> great minds >> well, great minds think alike. been alike. louis would have been good. nick what think? good. nick what do you think? well it's all very depressing because this whole rwanda thing is apparently most people think it's going be deterrent anyway. >> and it isn't functioning as a deterrent to smugglers deterrent to the smugglers anyway. legally anyway. it's going to be legally challenged anyway. so it could run for run and run. people think for a year get it through. and my year to get it through. and my worry is it becomes a worry is it becomes like a depressing election you depressing election issue. you know, goes, know, rishi eventually goes, oh, we few boats and we stopped a few boats and they're like, yayi and it's just going be annoying and drag going to be annoying and drag on. >> think sound >> do you think it's sound as, as a a concept ? >> do you think it's sound as, as a a concept? do you as a as a as a concept? do you think sound? well, idea think it's sound? well, the idea of something of us having to do something

about is sound. but about the boats is sound. but i sort of i tend to agree with dominic cummings, who was tweeting that it's not even the top the top 100 top 100 in the top 100 most difficult problems. >> that we could easily >> and that we could easily stop it got rid of the it if we just got rid of the ihra and got out of the echr. and to him. and i tend to believe him. i think they're making a lot of this they're going to this thing and they're going to claim it's this big victory. and really is really the other thing is there's in the home there's no will in the home office things. office to do these things. if you report you looked at the report from steve today, there's steve edgerton today, there's a whistleblower at whistleblower type of thing at the anonymous the home office, anonymous person office person saying the home office just they're ideologically captured know captured by wokeness, as we know . they're just incompetent. . they're also just incompetent. they don't really they also don't really work much. also they are just much. and also they are just desperate to block any policy from the government they see as far right, which is basically any control over migration at all. >> this is fascinating stuff, louis, this was louis, because, yes, this was a report a whistleblower the report, a whistleblower from the home , stephen edgington, home office, stephen edgington, reporting . and from what reporting on this. and from what they're it's completely they're saying, it's completely anti doesn't anti democratic. it doesn't matter we for what matter who we vote for or what policies the people we vote for attempt to implement. the staff attempt to implement. the staff at office will just at the home office will just scupper it anyway. i mean that if true. yeah. if that whistleblower's account is

accurate . this is a terrifying accurate. this is a terrifying situation . situation. >> well, this first of all, the boats are not the most terrifying situation we have. >> we i'm talking about the principle of democracy. >> the principle? yeah, of course. of course. they're really to scupper. i really trying to scupper. but i don't british don't see the british people being about i'm being that upset about it. i'm a foreigner. i understand. foreigner. i don't understand. maybe british people. >> i think people are very upset. the same us. upset. it's the same in the us. >> the deep >> it's the concept of the deep state, permanent state here, state, the permanent state here, the the thing. state, the permanent state here, the but the thing. state, the permanent state here, the but i the thing. state, the permanent state here, the but i see. the thing. state, the permanent state here, the but i see. the people1g. state, the permanent state here, the but i see. the people in >> but i see. i see people in america getting upset about the deep far more than here. deep state far more than here. i don't see i don't see people, to be fair , i only came out today. be fair, i only came out today. >> i mean, the whistleblower only think >> i mean, the whistleblower only i think think >> i mean, the whistleblower only i think people think >> i mean, the whistleblower only i think people on hink >> i mean, the whistleblower only i think people on either people i think people on either side of this debate, whatever, wherever you stand what wherever you stand on what should happen with rwanda, with the be equally the flights, should be equally outraged the notion of outraged about the notion of home office staff members just effectively undermining what they're told to do by the government. that should offend everyone, government. that should offend everonou know what that that is. >> that's such a british concept is like there are forces working behind scenes. there might behind the scenes. there might behind the scenes. there might be forces behind the be forces working behind the scenes, isn't rishi

scenes, but why isn't rishi sunak last year when he came into power saying there are four, isn't there a donald four, why isn't there a donald trump here saying there are force is working behind the scenes? actually not a bad question. >> i'm not so about the >> i'm not so sure about the comparison donald trump. >> i'm not so sure about the com but son donald trump. >> i'm not so sure about the com but they've donald trump. >> i'm not so sure about the com but they've beenald trump. >> i'm not so sure about the combut they've been promising but but they've been promising a bonfire quangos for bonfire of the quangos for years. been promising to years. they've been promising to clean service. clean up the civil service. and now so captured now that it has been so captured , as you say, nick, now would be now that it has been so captured , astime say, nick, now would be now that it has been so captured , astime to i, nick, now would be now that it has been so captured , astime to do ick, now would be now that it has been so captured , astime to do it(, now would be now that it has been so captured , astime to do it because )uld be now that it has been so captured , astime to do it because rishi)e the time to do it because rishi sunak captured. the time to do it because rishi sured captured. the time to do it because rishi sur ed yeah,�*tured. the time to do it because rishi sur ed yeah, well, that's true. >> ed yeah, well, that's true. but also dominic cummings just released a hour podcast. i'm released a 2.5 hour podcast. i'm only it. released a 2.5 hour podcast. i'm onlyone it. released a 2.5 hour podcast. i'm onlyone thing it. released a 2.5 hour podcast. i'm onlyone thing he it. released a 2.5 hour podcast. i'm onlyone thing he points it. released a 2.5 hour podcast. i'm onlyone thing he points out. released a 2.5 hour podcast. i'm onlyone thing he points out is released a 2.5 hour podcast. i'm onljvery thing he points out is released a 2.5 hour podcast. i'm onljvery hardi he points out is released a 2.5 hour podcast. i'm onljvery hard to; points out is released a 2.5 hour podcast. i'm onljvery hard to; po rid out is released a 2.5 hour podcast. i'm onljvery hard to; po rid ofrt is it's very hard to get rid of these people if you're these people because if you're sort minister, you can sort of normal minister, you can get the three people get rid of the three people that you've person you've hired. the only person that more than is that has more power than that is the themselves. the prime minister themselves. but have so many but then they just have so many people that it's people to sack that it's so, it's so to and one it's so hard to do. and the one time they with time he said they did it with boris, everyone's about time he said they did it with b(being!eryone's about time he said they did it with b(being ayone's about time he said they did it with b(being a coup s about time he said they did it with b(being a coup and about time he said they did it with b(being a coup and theyabout time he said they did it with b(being a coup and they were it being a coup and they were just some old just getting rid of some old duffers. basically duffers. so it's basically incredibly hard to sack people because has that because only the pm has that technical power and even and they time and they just don't have time and resources okay. resources to do it all. okay. >> very interesting. we're resources to do it all. okay. >> to very interesting. we're resources to do it all. okay. >> to very itozresting. we're resources to do it all. okay. >> to very itozresthursday's going to move to on thursday's guardian, nick, what are the guardian, nick, what are the guardian leading so, of guardian leading with? so, of course, but course, they've got rwanda, but

they've also got eight mps exit labour gaza ceasefire. >> this was, of course the vote you alluded before , which you alluded to before, which wanted to call explicitly for a ceasefire mps voted ceasefire. 56 labour mps voted for it with the snp madden this really jess phillips is therefore resigned. so has afzal khan , yasmin qureshi, paul khan, yasmin qureshi, paul barker , sarah owen, natasha and barker, sarah owen, natasha and andy slaughter. ironically named perhaps, but depending on where you stand. but what are you going to say? well i want to put this to you, nick, and i'm not expecting to the expecting you to solve the crisis in the middle east. >> but i am putting to you >> but what i am putting to you is people are is obviously a lot of people are upset on emotional level. upset on an emotional level. whenever upset on an emotional level. whe explains this from an that explains this from an emotive point of view. but what is to do insofar as is israel meant to do insofar as they possibly coexist they cannot possibly coexist with hamas, a terrorist group living next door that has vowed to repeat this action again and again and again until jews are wiped so it's not an option wiped out. so it's not an option to leave hamas where they are. so a ceasefire. there was a ceasefire before october the 7th. was hamas broke it. 7th. it was hamas who broke it. they really have a choice , they don't really have a choice, do well, i agree with you, >> well, i agree with you, andrew, but many in the

andrew, but many people in the labour let's labour party don't. let's remember, a party that remember, this is a party that was recently jeremy remember, this is a party that was who recently jeremy remember, this is a party that was who refusedy jeremy remember, this is a party that was who refused repeatedly( corbyn, who refused repeatedly to were a terror to say that hamas were a terror group morgan . group with piers morgan. >> shocking, actually. >> that was shocking, actually. >> that was shocking, actually. >> might say, look, >> and you might say, look, there's angle. there's a humanitarian angle. okay, it that is okay, fine. but is it that or is it ideological? when you it ideological? because when you have people like natascha, remember, suspended for remember, she was suspended for three months for saying that israel should move to the us in a post. and amazingly, she's still in the party. so these are people who don't like israel. so there's of humanitarian there's lots of humanitarian cnses there's lots of humanitarian crises can look at throughout crises we can look at throughout the but they seem the world, but they seem particularly focussed this one. one. >> one. >> what you %-- % about this, >> what do you think about this, lewis? wrong say lewis? i mean, am i wrong to say that doesn't have a that israel doesn't have a choice but insist before a choice but to insist before a ceasefire? they would have to insist hamas insist surely, that hamas is disbanded and that the hostages are returned and a sort of base level. would to have level. they would have to have that. i would say that if people don't then i don't see that, then what can i don't see that, then what can i do what can we do about it? >> what can we do about it? people out there don't see it. there's 250 hostages in in basements underneath the hospital . do people see hospital there. do people see it? don't know. first of all, it? i don't know. first of all, i don't know. we don't get enough public opinion polls in this political this country. our political

parties are are not strong parties are are are not strong enough to this could be the best thing that happened happened to this country because labour should do what it wants to do, which could be a pro palestinian party. >> and well, no. labour, i think, would never be that simplistic insofar as there are always two parties in one. i mean, clearly this story is talking about labour frontbenchers resigning over this, clearly there's this, right? so clearly there's a well then if labour is two >> well then if labour is two parties and one the other party, what's the name of the other conservative conservative party? will i told you to do your research before coming on the show forgotten because show. i just forgotten because they you don't they don't you don't you don't hear and the hear from these people and the conservative party people would if people have a choice today in the country, they should have a choice. they should have a party that stands for palestinians and terrorism and or a party that stands for i mean, louis, i'm not so sure that that's right. >> it would be. >> it would be. >> how about this? how about how about backtrack bit? i'm in about i backtrack a bit? i'm in favour. saying that favour. i'm not saying that they're terrorists, but they're not all terrorists, but i'm ceasefire.

i'm in favour of a ceasefire. yes. between the palestinians, the pro—palestinian people who are who are having a revolt against our country and the and the other people living. >> okay , there we go. louis has >> okay, there we go. louis has solved the problem. we're going to to the mirror. to move on now to the mirror. what's of what's going on? front cover of the anyone got this? the mirror. anyone got this? >> i got this one. yeah, >> oh, i got this one. yeah, this new. this this one is something new. this one is another. meghan. meghan and whoever. that guy is. and harry, whoever. that guy is. and. it says there's nothing and. and it says there's nothing sacred outrage as harry and meghan book reveals details around the queen's death. so i thought there's another book. it's another really have to deal with another book. and thought with another book. and i thought that book, but that they wrote the book, but they write the book. they didn't write the book. >> they didn't. >> of course they didn't. there's there. there's a ghost—writer there. >> very famous. not a >> very famous. no not even a ghost—writer. another >> very famous. no not even a ghostwritten. another >> very famous. no not even a ghostwritten. this another >> very famous. no not even a ghostwritten. this guy, ther >> very famous. no not even a ghostwritten. this guy, omid book written by this guy, omid scobie. yes. book scobie. scobie yes. in a book called end which just called end game, which has just been released or parts it been released or parts of it have released that say, you have been released that say, you know, that been know, the belief that he's been briefed and that he's briefed by meghan and that he's that harry and he probably. harry. >> what's the fury, though ? i >> what's the fury, though? i mean, if it's a book by some guy who's written a book about the

royal family and about the queen's it's like what queen's death, it's like what happened death. happened at the queen's death. people that limits? >> yeah, is . limits? >> yeah, is. it's limits? >> yeah, is . it's the lack of >> yeah, it is. it's the lack of decorum and it is the era of decorum and it is the era of decorum represented by our beloved late queen and the era of represented by of oversharing represented by harry and meghan. >> this book by harry >> this isn't a book by harry and meghan. >> oh. about them. so >> oh. oh, it's about them. so it was very it was very hard to read on the front read the writing on the front page. and i zone out louis page. and i zone out when louis talks. so yeah, but in general. in general. very said. but in general. very well said. but the more interested in the story i'm more interested in is and the he is david seaman and the goal he couldn't get over, which i presume the one against presume he is the one against brazil ronaldinho. brazil with ronaldinho. and that's to that's more interesting to me. >> okay. i didn't know what >> oh, okay. i didn't know what that meant. >> you. thank you >> thank you. thank you. you know that's called? know what that's called? that's called diversion. that's called diversion. you're basically saying non—story. diversion. you're basically sinon—story. non—story. a non—story. >> non—story. yeah. there >> it's a non—story. yeah. there we the we go. well, there's the front pages coming we go. well, there's the front pagwe've coming we go. well, there's the front pagwe've got coming we go. well, there's the front pagwe've got rwanda coming up. we've got rwanda replacements . happy chinese. and replacements. happy chinese. and welcome back to spain. sounds a bit cryptic . find out after

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>> welcome back to headliners. your first look at thursday's newspapers . i'm andrew doyle. newspapers. i'm andrew doyle. and because they didn't have an argument in the break, i'm still joined by lewis schaffer and nick dixon . well done for nick dixon. well done for keeping your cool guys. we're going thursday's going to move on to thursday's telegraph nick how telegraph next. nick how confident this story ? confident are you in this story? >> confident. it's >> i'm very confident. it's rishi sunak . >> i'm very confident. it's rishi sunak. nick faces six more, confidence letters and more, no confidence letters and dame andrea jenkins is saying that he's got to go . you may that he's got to go. you may have seen her. very amusing letter, which i thought was a parody at first because it was so aggressive and used certain words. even sure i can words. i'm not even sure i can say headliners, but it was say on headliners, but it was real. saying it's time real. so she's saying it's time to go, even though they'll look stupid because they've rid stupid because they've got rid of think it's of so many leaders. i think it's a idea because if we a bad idea because if we suddenly were to bring in a suella type, an actual conservative just before this election, they lose . you election, then they lose. you can everything on that. so can pin everything on that. so it's from my it's much better from my perspective tank perspective to let sunak tank then party. then actually change the party. >> , whoever's going lead >> yes, whoever's going to lead the party into the next the tory party into the next election is going to lose. presumably then someone else.

it's whoever comes it's going to be whoever comes next be next that's going to be successor. back successor. louis this goes back to this. nick thinks it's farage. we're going back to this point tory party, not point about the tory party, not being enough. you being conservative enough. you know, suella braverman the departure braverman departure of suella braverman does much to a lot of does feel very much to a lot of people dying people like the sort of dying remnants of the conservative element conservative element of the conservative party is right? >> it's the other way around. she's the dying she she's not the dying remnant. she is. spark of the is. she's like the spark of the party. believe . it's like it's party. i believe. it's like it's like nick used a very interesting way of calling it call it national conservative. nat nat cons versus the lib. like hitler. it's like national socialism. >> it's national conservative. it's what a lot of people are calling it now. like the nat con converse versus the kind of basically old lib dems basically old school lib dems who of the party who are the rest of the party that steve wrote that is. steve davis wrote a brilliant article in the telegraph. this is the civil war in the tories. >> going go though? in the tories. >> that's going go though? in the tories. >> that's goini'm go though? in the tories. >> that's goini'm interested]? nick that's what i'm interested in. know, these no in. you know, these no confidence will do confidence letters. will they do anything? surely they know that these long how it's going >> but long term, how it's going to party either is to go is the party either is captured or the captured by one side or the other it breaks up. yes other or it breaks up. yes i obviously the nat cons obviously think the nat cons will then obviously think the nat cons will is then obviously think the nat cons will is an then obviously think the nat cons

will is an in—between then obviously think the nat cons will is an in—between position, there is an in—between position, though said though davis in his piece said this but that's this has no hope, but that's that on that your thatcherite on economics, socially economics, but you're socially conservative. and that would economics, but you're socially consewith ve. and that would economics, but you're socially consewith toughj that would economics, but you're socially consewith tough bordervould economics, but you're socially consewith tough border controls. work with tough border controls. you could do that. but he thinks that's no future. he thinks that's got no future. he thinks you have to between more, that's got no future. he thinks you hinterventionistween more, that's got no future. he thinks you hinterventionist , een more, more interventionist, anti—immigration, social conservative and the more what eric kaufman calls the business liberals. >> sounds good to me. you should run, you be run, louis. you should be a politician. you know what i think? politician. you know what i thirl? politician. you know what i thiri? nick wrong. >> i think nick is wrong. i think only issue think there's only one issue which is which sugar. no. which is which is sugar. no. well, that's that's actually deeply involved. the deep state. the deep. no, it's about is about who is fighting for britain. and it's not about the british economic policy . i britain. and it's not about the british economic policy. i think the people could settle at this time , um, for bad economics if time, um, for bad economics if they had their country. and i think they're so you're calling for more patriotism from whoever's going to be the leader more right patriots that is the con side though is it? >> i think farage can bridge the gap because even though he because he liberal because he is liberal economically, then very because he is liberal econonasally, then very because he is liberal econonasally, of then very because he is liberal econonasally, of sovereignty'ery because he is liberal econonasally, of sovereignty and known as sort of sovereignty and anti—immigration. known as sort of sovereignty and anti—imnliketion. known as sort of sovereignty and anti—imnlike him can do it. someone like him can do it. >> and you think that he would

be elected leader? >> will, yeah. will be elected leader? >> predicted will, yeah. will be elected leader? >> predicted 2029 (eah. will be elected leader? >> predicted 2029 farage'ill i've predicted 2029 farage becomes what i've predicted 2029 farage bmean�*s what i've predicted 2029 farage bmean�*s with what i've predicted 2029 farage bmean�*s with party what i mean is with the party membership going, yeah, yeah, membership going, oh yeah, yeah, they soon that gets they will have to soon that gets destroyed. have destroyed. yeah they'll have to. >> okay. we're >> very interesting. okay. we're going move on the guardian going to move on to the guardian now seems like david now and louis seems like david cameron of in cameron has a lot of fans in china . china. >> in china? he does have >> in china? yeah, he does have many in this country. i don't think concerns is china think so. concerns is china welcomes david cameron in return as secretary in the big as foreign secretary in the big shake and it said that that shake up and it said that that the chinese state media the global times tabloid and it's all state propaganda that's what the chinese is. and when you think of state propaganda, a lot of people don't sort of understand how chinese state understand how the chinese state propaganda think of propaganda works. just think of the here, or louis schaefer the bbc here, or louis schaefer for goodness sake. well, i believe it anyway . believe it anyway. >> anyway, so they start going on about credit systems >> anyway, so they start going on a bout credit systems >> anyway, so they start going ona minute. credit systems >> anyway, so they start going ona minute. yes,redit systems >> anyway, so they start going ona minute. yes, exactly ;tems >> anyway, so they start going ona minute. yes, exactly .ems in a minute. yes, exactly. >> well, that's what's heading. we're towards all this we're heading towards all this thing. this is the policy of g. >> are you happy about david cameron's return? nick, i know you were looking forward to it lol . lol. >> it's absolutely ridiculous.

but and this is a big red flag, pun intended , and quite a good pun intended, and quite a good pun, quite a good pun because deserved more. thank you. but at home they'll get that later . but home they'll get that later. but yeah look we've had this yeah i mean look we've had this aside from china's humanitari abuses, you know, which no one seems to care about unless it's israel human rights abuses. also, naive about israel human rights abuses. also sort naive about israel human rights abuses. also sort soft naive about israel human rights abuses. also sort soft warive about israel human rights abuses. also sort soft war with bout israel human rights abuses. also sort soft war with china this sort of soft war with china . cameron's a big part of that. .cameron's a big part of that. he's to get trade he's always trying to get trade deals and these things deals and all these things from the lanka project, the sri lanka project, the chinese investment in that, and he's for that . so of he's known for that. so of course, always red flag he's known for that. so of cours

doing, where he was doing right. >> was the >> well, maybe he was the greensill. yeah. keeping it's >> well, maybe he was the greera ll. yeah. keeping it's >> well, maybe he was the greera long ah. keeping it's >> well, maybe he was the greera long time,eeping it's >> well, maybe he was the greera long time, but1g it's >> well, maybe he was the greera long time, but1g it'what been a long time, but like what you about like it's bad you said about like it's bad when people like when the chinese people like him. yeah. we want we him. yeah. we don't want we don't to liked him. yeah. we don't want we d0|the to liked him. yeah. we don't want we d0|the chinese. to liked him. yeah. we don't want we d0|the chinese. no, to liked him. yeah. we don't want we d0|the chinese. no, it liked him. yeah. we don't want we d0|the chinese. no, it reminds by the chinese. no, it reminds me clinton in, me of when bill clinton in, like, 1998 or something went in front united nations, he front of the united nations, he got standing ovation front got a standing ovation in front of and of the united nations. and americans were a most americans were a lot most americans were a lot most americans i was sickened by it. really? don't want really? because you don't want all horrible countries all these horrible countries around the world like a bill clinton, like britain. i would like. >> china's probably a very lovely country. i mean, i've never been, but there are some very beautiful. >> is beautiful. but >> no, it is beautiful. but the other side of it is bad leadership is that china, from what this is just me, leadership is that china, from wha heard this is just me, leadership is that china, from wha heard they're:his is just me, leadership is that china, from wha heard they're in; is just me, leadership is that china, from wha heard they're in as just me, leadership is that china, from wha heard they're in a veryt me, i've heard they're in a very weak demographically, weak position demographically, politically , very economically. politically, very economically. they're if trade dries up like we like we stopped russia from trading, they will die . they've trading, they will die. they've got nothing. >> and that's why trump was much better because he was tough on trade china and they were trade with china and they were scared they were scared scared and they were scared because have trade. because they only have trade. >> a bit scared of >> i mean, i was a bit scared of him, reasons. him, but for different reasons. okay. on

okay. we're going to move on now. have at the now. let's have a look at the mail holiday homes in mail now. holiday homes in spain. of those. >> yeah, two, actually. it's >> yeah, two, actually. and it's a for brits with a new visa. joy for brits with houday a new visa. joy for brits with holiday as spain joins holiday homes as spain joins france in calling for the post—brexit day limit post—brexit 90 day visa limit to be admitting harming be axed, admitting it's harming their economy. not the most catchy i've read catchy headline, but i've read it this is yeah you're it all. and this is yeah you're going to be able to the rule was you stay for out you can only stay for 90 out of every 180 days. you can only stay for 90 out of every 1basically post—brexit if >> so basically post—brexit if you had a holiday home you had to to stay there to apply for visas to stay there to apply for visas to stay there to stay for six months. >> were to a >> if you were going to stay a sort annoying. it's sort of red tape annoying. it's not what brexit was about, you know, it was about keeping foreigners know, it was about keeping fore it ners know, it was about keeping fore it wasn't about not going to >> it wasn't about not going to houday . holiday homes. >> goodness sake. >> yeah, for goodness sake. >> yeah, for goodness sake. >> passports and >> it's about blue passports and you know it. >> you're right. you know it. >> no, you're right. you know it. >> no, louis.e right. you know it. >> no, louis. but1t. thing >> no, louis. but the thing about you know , they're about this is, you know, they're talking about how if they want about this is, you know, they're ta|overrideiut how if they want about this is, you know, they're ta|override this ow if they want about this is, you know, they're ta|override this policy, iey want about this is, you know, they're ta|override this policy, they'ret to override this policy, they're going have go eu. going to have to go to the eu. the going to green the eu is going to have to green light this. that's not going to happen because eu happen because the eu is basically trying to punish britain who has britain and anyone who even has overtures in that direction in terms of getting out of the eu, they're going to punish you when you deny you're basically denying and tourism is denying tourism and tourism is the easiest money spinner for

any country and that's it. >> those british people that >> and those british people that were spending wanted spend were spending wanted to spend more europe. what were more time in europe. what were they spending for? >> spain and france aren't happy about that. they want to spain. they get brits are double the >> they get brits are double the amount we amount of german tourists. we give them all their money, basically. give them all their money, bas right. they're give them all their money, basright. they're spending >> right. and they're spending money more and more. >> this stuff. it >> i read about this stuff. it makes it was the right makes me think it was the right decision eu. decision to get out of the eu. i just think they're excellent. >> yeah, but you what? >> yeah, but you know what? the thing need thing is? that's why you need a calendar you're travelling calendar when you're travelling overseas to see how many days you can. you only spend 90 days. >> a stop >> lewis i'm going to put a stop to you can constantly to this so you can constantly advertise calendar because advertise your calendar because it's in it's a great and you're in the calendar well. it's a great and you're in the calendarthis nell. it's a great and you're in the calendarthis isll. it's a great and you're in the calendarthis is this is a 2023 >> now this is this is a 2023 calendar. >> there's only one month left. >> there's only one month left. >> is the 2024. me find >> this is the 2024. let me find your picture in it. >> i can't believe we all need calendars to compete with this. >> you need calendars. >> you need calendars. >> should it >> i think we should do it a headliners calendar? yes. >> without lewis. headliners calendar? yes. >> but without lewis. one month with you. one with me. one with leo. >> josh here. you're in there. there's picture. there's a picture. there's a picture andrew, at there's a picture. there's a pictlgreat andrew, at there's a picture. there's a pictlgreat you andrew, at there's a picture. there's a pictlgreat you look. aw, at there's a picture. there's a pictlgreat you look. can at there's a picture. there's a pictlgreat you look. can see how great you look. can you see how great you look. can you see how great? >> andrew that's lovely. but

that's lewis that's also a picture of lewis pole for which pole dancing for me, which nobody to see, let alone nobody needs to see, let alone our viewers. okay we're going to move on to telegraph. move on now to the telegraph. some advice from royalty about how raise kids. >> oh, god mn- % god . yeah. this is the >> oh, my god. yeah. this is the question. it's princess of wales. caroline in? wales. who was caroline in? >> catherine. >> catherine. >> catherine, i told you to do your research . your research. >> i know. you know what? i hate the royal family. i'm sorry. i know people. they love. know these people. they love. the about this the worst thing about this country the royal family. country is the royal family. i know. they know. i don't care, but they don't about this country. don't care about this country. they're a bunch of you don't know them. >> lewis, making huge >> lewis, you're making huge assumptions >> lewis, you're making huge ass but tions >> lewis, you're making huge ass but these think that >> but these people think that they do what princess louise feelings. will taught they do what princess louise feelabout will taught they do what princess louise feelabout mental will taught they do what princess louise feelabout mental health. jght they do what princess louise feelabout mental health. she's me about mental health. she's doing this thing. she's got a royal foundation, which is this centre for early childhood in london. she just want london. and she just want to seems seems like she's london. and she just want to seemdoing seems like she's london. and she just want to seemdoing something like she's london. and she just want to seemdoing something and, she's london. and she just want to seemdoing something and, and, busy doing something and, and, and just, just i guess to show that there's women involved because there's now three generations really described the story . story. >> fl!- @ can i just say what >> louis can i just say what happened prince the happened here is that prince the prince brought home what was prince brought home a what was it called , a feelings

it called, a feelings wheel, right. is from a lesson at right. which is from a lesson at school where the children are encouraged not make a wheel encouraged not to make a wheel of mental of their feet. it's about mental health. nick and she says health. so, nick and she says we've something to learn we've got something to learn from this. >> yeah, firstly, we all love the of wales. it's the the princess of wales. it's the immigrants on show. do you immigrants on the show. do you want that clear to our want to make that clear to our viewers? we love the viewers? we love we love the princess and also this princess of wales. and also this does, a little does, though, sound a little bit more thing. more like harry's kind of thing. it's healthy, but it's a bit mental healthy, but i do it's i do kids do do think it's i do think kids do need this kind of thing. they do need this kind of thing. they do need their need to talk and get their feelings men. we should feelings out. not men. we should never try and talk never make men try and talk about like women, about their feelings like women, but children. that's different boys as well, presumably. i think okay for children. >> is it? yeah. but what's the age point where have man >> is it? yeah. but what's the ageand nt where have man >> is it? yeah. but what's the ageand stop1ere have man >> is it? yeah. but what's the ageand stop having have man >> is it? yeah. but what's the ageand stop having feelings?man up and stop having feelings? >> great. >> f'- f'— f— >> .8330, i'm very emotional, though, even now. is that too late? is it too late for me? >> it's too late for you, andrew. >> anyway. very, very gay. >> anyway. very, very gay. >> well , you >> anyway. very, very gay. >> well, you hadn't offended the gays and you've offended. >> now, everyone. everyone >> now, everyone. everyone >> the royal family, royal family, homosexuals, women, children. >> gays . >> gays. >> gays. >> you on a roll. lewis >> you are on a roll. lewis schaffer. pretending to do schaffer. she's pretending to do to do something.

>> that's what the royal family do. they pretend she is nice. i'm saying she's nice i'm not saying she's not nice and she's probably the best mother entire bunch . and mother of the entire bunch. and but, you know, that's not saying very much because that family has the worst mothers. the worst. >> i'm going to put a stop to this. >> it was a great mother. >> it was a great mother. >> we have made it halfway through. you be through. now you will be rewarded if come back with rewarded if you come back with another bbc israel apology . some another bbc israel apology. some tory knee taking an ad, the translator that could start wars . let's see you

radio. >> welcome back to headliners getting straight into thursday's telegraph now and the bbc have outdone themselves this time. nick. >> yeah, this is shocking . board >> yeah, this is shocking. board of deputies appalled by bbc's newsreaders. i got put off there by lewis picking up his own name by lewis picking up his own name by bbc newsreaders claimed that idf is targeting medics. so this was a shocking clip . it comes was a shocking clip. it comes from monica miller , who was from monica miller, who was

broadcasting bbc world and broadcasting on bbc world and twice mistakenly claimed that israeli forces targeting israeli forces were targeting medical staff and arab speakers, targeting was the word at gaza's largest hospital . and in fact, targeting was the word at gaza's largidf hospital . and in fact, targeting was the word at gaza's largidf were tal . and in fact, targeting was the word at gaza's largidf were bringing in fact, targeting was the word at gaza's largidf were bringing alongt, the idf were bringing along medical teams to make sure that harm was minimised. so really , harm was minimised. so really, they bringing arab they were bringing along arab speakers so targeting arab speakers, so not targeting arab speakers, so not targeting arab speakers , bringing arab speakers, bringing arab speakers, prepare for the sensitive environment and translating you translating and so on. so you know, this is this is shocking. we've had a lot of bbc cuts. there's been the merging of these departments and all this. and tv. and look, it's live tv. i watched the she seemed watched the clip. she seemed like she was speaking in a foreign she read like she was speaking in a forethe she read like she was speaking in a forethe thing. she read like she was speaking in a forethe thing. slit read like she was speaking in a forethe thing. slit cani out the wrong thing. so it can happen. obvious happen. but given the obvious bias that we've seen of the bbc in very in recent weeks, it looks very bad. looks very bad. mean, >> it looks very bad. i mean, she reading autocue, so she was reading the autocue, so i think the fault here will have lied whoever prepared that, lied with whoever prepared that, put screen. know, put it on the screen. you know, you what was you don't know what she was thinking you don't know what she was thi because i think so it, because i think that is so far off the mark. and if you would have just read that, you would have just read that, you would yourself, would have just read that, you woul(on, yourself, would have just read that, you woul(on, doesn't yourself, would have just read that, you woul(on, doesn't soundelf, hang on, that doesn't sound right. that. right. let's go and check that. >> she was looking >> yeah. or she was looking down, but it would have been in her two, and her ear. one of the two, and she's it.

she's just repeating it. >> but the point is that no one's us. one's like us. >> repeat stuff. they >> we just repeat stuff. they tell to say. tell us to say. >> are puppets of a >> exactly. we are puppets of a broader state thing. broader deep state thing. but the lewis, is the thing is, lewis, this is it's weird like that. no one checked any checked this at any level because to get to the point where is reading where the newscaster is reading it, it's been through few it, it's been through a few stages already, hasn't it? >> they work. >> i don't know how they work. they've billion they've got probably a billion people probably they've got probably a billion peoplsomebody probably they've got probably a billion peoplsomebody prcthely have somebody to check. the truth truth is the bbc truth is, the truth is the bbc is the truth. we can't trust is not the truth. we can't trust the truth. is this the only time this is the truth. is this the only time thisonly is the truth. is this the only time thisonly time is the truth. is this the only time thisonly time this is the truth. is this the only time thisonly time this has is the truth. is this the only time thisonly time this has happened, the only time this has happened, but isn't, is that we live in the only time this has happened, b|world n't, is that we live in the only time this has happened, b|world of, is that we live in the only time this has happened, b|world of fake hat we live in the only time this has happened, b|world of fake reality live in the only time this has happened, b|world of fake reality brought a world of fake reality brought to state propaganda to us by the state propaganda service ofcom and service and policed by ofcom and i think people. i'm sorry. >> so you think that this is a deliberate misrepresent of the truth rather just a major truth rather than just a major error? do you know what? >> happens too often? >> it happens too often? it might might well, might be. it might be. well, this doesn't this kind of thing doesn't happen this kind of thing doesn't happ mean, this is very is >> i mean, this is very this is an error. >> i mean, this is very this is an but'. >> i mean, this is very this is an but in but in the context of >> but in but in the context of an obvious bias in the bbc refusing to call hamas terrorists , i suppose the terrorists, i suppose that's the point the fact that no one point is the fact that no one thought, we should thought, hang on, we should check that it sounds dodgy suggests the bias. at least one thing, tell thing, though. you can tell even the thought was bad the bbc thought this was bad because very

because they issued a very rare apology and hate apology and they hate apologising . apologising. >> well, i mean, look, they were right because right to apologise because they had to apologise. >> even they >> absolutely. even they recognise too far and mistake. >> all right. well, let's move on story. this is the on to this story. this is the mail. uh, lewis, you've mail. now uh, lewis, you've taken knee before now, but taken the knee before now, but that was when you posed , wasn't that was when you posed, wasn't it, to. >> to you. to you. that's right. >> to you. to you. that's right. >> and i said no when you were devastated. i did give devastated. but i did give you a job. >> that's why he's been so homophobic. i am not. >> no. i'm not gay in >> no, no, no. i'm not gay in the uk. i've got sent my the uk. i've got i've sent my limits. i've set my limits. >> what's the story? >> what's the story? >> story is tory right? the >> the story is tory right? the tory sounds like a good name for for like for a a daughter. it's like tory, right? that name. tory, right? i like that name. tory. right fury. tory. right. tory. right fury. fury. as new home office minister laura farris is seen taking the knee to quote unquote show her support, quote, whatever for black lives matter. >> this is a while ago. it was it was unearthed photo . it was unearthed photo. >> it was. but this lucy farris , >> it was. but this lucy farris, she's the mp, the conservative mp for newbury, which is up the road , which is a lovely town. road, which is a lovely town. i actually spent weekend there,

actually spent a weekend there, was fantastic. and or did i know we just visit there with we just went to visit there with with. let's get the details. oh, sorry, sorry. i got diverted and she's a supporter. a supporter of rishi and she's the home office minister. >> okay. but isn't it the case, nick, can i. >> can i finish my. >> can i finish my. >> well, was it going to be a good point? >> it is going to be a good point. >> it is going to be a good poiiall right. it better be >> all right. well, it better be because the reason why because because the reason why this because this is news is because she's a tory. but, nick, my point tory. no, but, nick, my point was be that you know, was going to be that you know, back the day, in the summer back in the day, in the summer of of these of 2020, when all of these politicians personal politicians and various personal parties knee, parties were taking the knee, very understood very few people understood the implications. few implications. right? very few people. not just people. and so could it not just be that she was doing be the case that she was doing it because felt she had to it because she felt she had to do without realising that do it without realising that black a marxist black lives matter is a marxist organisation terrorists? yes, it's no excuse >> yes, but it's no excuse because i knew in 2020 never because i knew in 2020 i never posted square . i was posted the black square. i was writing articles in spikes. in 2020. you can check same blm shouldn't football telling shouldn't be in football telling people they if a mere people what they were. if a mere layman it, then a layman like me can do it, then a professional politician shouldn't be literally kneeling to mean, they're against to this. i mean, they're against the nuclear family. they're against capitalism. they're

anti—israel . all they're anti—israel. all they're pro—hamas, absolute pro—hamas, their absolute garbage. and anyone with half a brain could see it and least of all a conservative, i don't think people could see it. all a conservative, i don't thiryouzople could see it. all a conservative, i don't thiryou see, could see it. all a conservative, i don't thiryou see, i:ould see it. all a conservative, i don't thiryou see, i wrote ;ee it. all a conservative, i don't thiryou see, i wrote an it. all a conservative, i don't thiryou see, i wrote an article >> you see, i wrote an article around that time. think it around that time. i think it might even predated might have even predated yours, nick, there nick, in which i said that there were problems with black lives matter these the matter and that these were the things supported. but i things they supported. but i had to for that to really search for that and find and about it. and find it and think about it. and a people don't time a lot of people don't have time for they? a lot of people don't have time for well, they? a lot of people don't have time for well, i they? a lot of people don't have time for well, i wasey? it we >> well, i was against it and we discussed my klu klux klan discussed it at my klu klux klan meeting now . there we go. meeting right now. there we go. no, no, that was a joke . no, no, that was a joke. >> they no, that was a joke. >> they no, that was a joke. >> them know you got >> well, let them know you got you question? you got a question? >> joke. >> i didn't know a joke. i thought it real. i thought >> i didn't know a joke. i thoungunny. real. i thought >> i didn't know a joke. i thoungunny. theil. i thought >> i didn't know a joke. i thoungunny. the realthought >> i didn't know a joke. i thoungunny. the real lewis.t it was funny. the real lewis. >> i'm jew. >> anyway, i'm a jew. >> anyway, i'm a jew. >> yes, you're jewish. >> anyway, i'm a jew. >> i've you're jewish. >> anyway, i'm a jew. >> i've got 're jewish. >> anyway, i'm a jew. >> i've got the ewish. >> anyway, i'm a jew. >> i've got the most. >> anyway, i'm a jew. >> i've got the most important point. which. which says this woman wrong . she actually woman is wrong. she actually worked for hillary clinton's campaign , so she knew she she. campaign, so she knew she she. hillary clinton. >> do you know what, though? can i just come back to this point? there lot of pressure on people. >> there was a of pressure. >> there was a lot of pressure. but it's still i'm still it's still to the but it's still i'm still it's stillthing to the but it's still i'm still it's stillthing it to the but it's still i'm still it's stillthing it would to the but it's still i'm still it's stillthing it would to forgivable one thing it would be forgivable is george floyd is thinking that george floyd

was now know was murdered, which we now know is people haven't is not true. most people haven't caught up to that yet, but. caught up to that one yet, but. >> david chauvin was committed. >> the shows that it >> the autopsy shows that it wasn't murder. it wasn't actually murder. it wasn't actually murder. it wasn't it wasn't due wasn't it wasn't it wasn't due to pressure on the neck or anything to pressure on the neck or any he1g to pressure on the neck or any he was found of murder >> he was found guilty of murder in i know, but yes , but. okay. >> i know, but yes, but. okay. yeah. sure we say that. yeah. you make sure we say that. yeah, well, that's true. >> but what is an what is a conservative mp doing working for ? who the for hillary clinton? who is the democrat anti christ? >> all i will say about this, you know, at time i'm you know, at the time i'm a friend mine, was friend of mine, an actor was told her that unless told by her agent that unless she lives matter she put the black lives matter black her social black square on her social media, she'd never get cast again. was there's again. so there was there's a lot , but they're lot of pressure, but they're not conservative she's not conservative party she's not a conservative party she's not a conservative party she's not a conservative party mp. >> just actors woke >> they're just actors in a woke industry who are scared. okay. >> all fair enough . okay. >> all right. fair enough. okay. let's next one. let's look at this next one. nick about translations. yeah this is joe biden's translator to filter out any gaffes made dunng to filter out any gaffes made during meeting with xi jinping. >> this is amazing. during meeting with xi jinping. >> this is amazing . really. so >> this is amazing. really. so because we have a president of the can't be trusted to the us who can't be trusted to talk because he might cause world war iii, they're saying ,

world war iii, they're saying, look, luckily there'll be a translator who hopefully won't translate gaffes and they're translate the gaffes and they're not have one on one not going to have one on one meetings and the spokesman here is saying this someone an is who's saying this someone an insider the white house. insider at the white house. >> yeah. that's >> yeah. yeah. that's incredible, because what they know this from know this comes from intelligence aucoin. >> yeah , i can't even say. >> yeah, i can't even say. >>— >> yeah, i can't even say. >> what suggesting >> what they're suggesting is that effectively that the translator effectively supersedes insofar supersedes the president insofar as say as the translator could say anything in that meeting. yeah, if they want. that's a risk. anything in that meeting. yeah, if tithereant. that's a risk. anything in that meeting. yeah, if tithere have hat's a risk. anything in that meeting. yeah, if tithere have beena risk. anything in that meeting. yeah, if tithere have been comedy >> there have been comedy sketches. that, sketches. exactly like that, haven't my favourite haven't they? but my favourite bit, so i just very quickly is, is when he says it's worth noting biden has noting that president biden has performed he's had noting that president biden has perfoto ed he's had noting that president biden has perfoto focus he's had noting that president biden has perfoto focus on he's had noting that president biden has perfoto focus on a he's had noting that president biden has perfoto focus on a particular d event. >> i mean, pathetic. you >> i mean, how pathetic. you know, >> i mean, how pathetic. you knoi', >> i mean, how pathetic. you knoi do feel him. you >> i do feel bad for him. you know, obviously, you know, know, he's obviously, you know, in a stage of cognitive decline, but won't admit but the democrats won't admit it. puts him in a it. and that puts him in a really position. yeah really bad position. yeah and he's to gaffes result he's prone to gaffes as a result . but there high stakes , . but but there are high stakes, aren't there? if he's having a conversation with these major world leaders. actually, all of a sudden those gaffes become serious. >> so what's ridiculous >> and so what's ridiculous about this story is and she doesn't have a translator there

for him . for him. >> no, he'll have a translator as well. but he won't be filtering out the gaffes . i filtering out the gaffes. i think if a translator tried to do that to the chinese president, they would get in trouble. that way. trouble. let's put it that way. >> no, they would. they would. the translator, chinese the translator, the chinese translator say the gaffes translator would say the gaffes that name was saying. that what's his name was saying. >> you think i mean, some of >> do you think i mean, some of the biden has done the gaffes that biden has done have been didn't he refer to zelenskyy vladimir? i think zelenskyy as vladimir? i think it makes yeah, it makes sense. >> he's got entire countries wrong, he said. he say iran wrong, he said. did he say iran when meant ukraine? when he meant ukraine? >> stuff like that? he called on a woman who died a few months before in a meeting. he called hamas. >> the other team was a oh, is that right? fun one. yes. >> but this is he mixed up the black and tans with the all blacks. this is this the point. >> the point is, is that is that is that the democrats would rather have a horrible joe biden than i don't think they want him. >> they i don't think he wanted to run for a second. >> they don't want him. but if it's a choice between joe biden and republican, they would

and any republican, they would vote for joe and any republican, they would vote forjoe biden. vote for joe biden. >> okay. that is true. >> okay. well, that is true. >> that is true. >> that is true. >> could be true. we're >> that could be true. we're going on to sun now. going to move on to the sun now. and louis, china's internet is so this so fast, they're watching this show minutes ago. >> well, actually, the answer ago. >> because :ually, the answer ago. >> because they, the answer ago. >> because they wouldn't ner ago. >> because they wouldn't be no, because they wouldn't be watching this show because it's a like what a police state, much like what the government is trying a police state, much like what th> they were saying that we weren't going to reach that till 2025. >> well, do you know what? you

still to download still need something to download on is police on it. and this is a police state, you're going state, so you're not going to get point having it. >> any thoughts? nick >> any thoughts? nick >> one potential answer as to how could how there's so much better could be just their be that they can just work their people until they jump people to death until they jump into things. you know, into those net things. you know, they don't human rights. into those net things. you know, theythe1't human rights. into those net things. you know, theythe good human rights. into those net things. you know, theythe good thingnan rights. into those net things. you know, theythe good thing na hopefully but the good thing is hopefully david look at david cameron will get a look at this bring it this technology and bring it back big pals with this technology and bring it bac old big pals with this technology and bring it bac old there big pals with this technology and bring it bac old there we big pals with this technology and bring it bac old there we go. pals with the old there we go. >> that's a positive note. >> that's a positive note. >> chinese, we should not be >> the chinese, we should not be afraid of the chinese. >> the >> i'm not afraid of the chinese. okay. >> what know the >> from what i know about the chinese, what chinese, he's afraid of what you're i'm bad at you're going to see. i'm bad at technology. they're good at the low they not low level stuff. they are not good high stuff. good at the high level stuff. all these they all these big chips, these they need made in need chips. taiwan made in taiwan, exactly. taiwan, right? yeah, exactly. or we conductors. taiwan, right? yeah, exactly. or we they conductors. taiwan, right? yeah, exactly. or we they can't conductors. taiwan, right? yeah, exactly. or we they can't do�*nductors. taiwan, right? yeah, exactly. or we they can't do that. ors. >> they can't do that. >> they can't do that. >> that's why if we do, if we boycott them , they are d—e—a—d. boycott them, they are d—e—a—d. we are not going to be able to boycott china. >> we're too tied in there, i'm afraid. but anyway, finishing this section with the guardian, nick fairy this section with the guardian, nici

everything, but basically the number and number of children aged 18 and under to have under going to hospital to have teeth fallen 12% teeth extracted has fallen 12% since sugar in since the sugar tax came in in april 2018. so it's working. it's but there's no it's working. but there's no improvement amongst 10 to 14 year olds or 15 to 18 year olds. so is really working is so is it really working or is this big anti sugar? this just big, big anti sugar? >> i am very, very. i know lewis has a lot of thoughts about sugan has a lot of thoughts about sugar, which he will no doubt has a lot of thoughts about suga us/hich he will no doubt has a lot of thoughts about suga us with he will no doubt has a lot of thoughts about suga us with ins will no doubt has a lot of thoughts about suga us with in avill no doubt has a lot of thoughts about suga us with in a moment.jbt has a lot of thoughts about suga us with in a moment. but bore us with in a moment. but the point about this is that i'm concerned nanny concerned about the nanny state idea. i'm concerned about the idea. i'm concerned about the idea the government is sort idea that the government is sort of should and of saying what we should and shouldn't what shouldn't be eating, what companies be companies should and should be putting products, companies should and should be putting shouldn't)ducts, companies should and should be putting shouldn't)du> 5 the choice. >> a bag of >> if i want to eat a bag of sugar every morning for breakfast, i should able to breakfast, i should be able to do that. >> p- e what? people do that. >> what's what? people do that. >> what's what'sat? people do that. >> what's what'sat? pe about what's what's what's crazy about this people think of sugar as this is people think of sugar as only sugar that you only the white sugar that you scoop tea. only the white sugar that you sco it's tea. only the white sugar that you sco it's everywhere. it's fructose. >> that's white sugar is >> no, that's white sugar is half sucrose . half fructose, half sucrose. yes, but what is sugar? sugar is all carbs or sugar that chains of sugar starches are chains of sugan >> they're not taxing that, are they? >> no, they're not. and. and the proof that that there's been a

no improvement detected among 10 to 14 year olds, 10 to 18 year olds. yes. says that probably what it is, is that young people are getting a lot of their calories from sugar. they were getting and sugar getting a lot of it. and sugar causes all cavities. i have stopped brushing my teeth. i don't brush my teeth anymore. you don't need to. if you go on an all meat diet. >> terrible advice from louis schaefer . please ignore >> terrible advice from louis schaefer. please ignore it. okay. so just one more section to go and we're going to be talking about the word of the yeah talking about the word of the year. film of the and year. the film of the year and the trend the

welcome back to headliners. your first look at thursday's newspapers and am i really seeing this story in the guardian, louis? >> well, it's a big word. it's this says hallucis nate chosen as cambridge dictionaries word of the year. i don't know who owned cambridge dictionary, whether that's just based on the

place or whether the university owns like oxford university, owns it, like oxford university, i know. but it said they i don't know. but it said they wanted they have a word wanted they have to pick a word and didn't to and they didn't want to pick i because so boring and they because it's so boring and they didn't want to pick, pick and whatever. so they picked hallucis innate because it's the it's what is it? it's hallucinate is a feeling a crazy when you hallucinate stuff it just is all weird stuff. >> now i know what hallucinate means, but i think they mean in the context of gtp or it means it means they chose it because it's a vivid psychological verb . it's a vivid psychological verb. no, they're talking about i, but they're saying that when gtp generates text, it sometimes hallucinate and therefore gives false information . that's what false information. that's what they mean. because? >> because what do they call it where you're deifying the. well, you really mean when you're making it a person, your persona , you're making it part of a motorcycle izing anthropomorphised right . motorcycle izing anthropomorphised right. this is what they're trying to do like that article, we had that other article, we had an article said said that article that said that said that auens article that said that said that aliens landing already aliens are landing are already here. are the aliens? here. what are the aliens? >> okay, lewis. lewis didn't

read this, okay. nick, read this, did he? okay. nick, what what's what you said. >> andrew. yeah, it's hallucinate. it's when i've just read it's when. read the same as you. it's when. when texts that when it generates texts that mimics writing, mimics human writing, hallucinates and provokes, hallucinates and does, provokes, produces information . produces false information. >> but when they do this like so whenever cambridge dictionary or oxford dictionary chooses a word of the year, always hyper of the year, it's always hyper politicised you remember politicised. do you remember they as the they chose youthquake as the word the year one year. and word of the year one year. and of everyone's of course that everyone's forgotten and no forgotten about that word and no one they one knows what it means. they chose singular pronoun chose they as a singular pronoun as year couple as word of the year a couple of years very years ago. so they're very politicised. so are they politicised. so why are they pushing it because pushing chat gtp? is it because it's and it's hyper woke and ideologically driven they're trying to push ai ideologically driven they're trying to push al on? >> is andrew that's what it's all about. >> no. it could be they >> no. or it could be they they're clickbait. they want they're a clickbait. they want clickbait. want they're a clickbait. they want clickloft. want they're a clickbait. they want clicklof course want they're a clickbait. they want clicklof course do. wantthey word of course they do. and they got talk about a non—story got us to talk about a non—story . a non—starter. . that's a non—starter. >> want >> yeah. who would want clickbait anything >> yeah. who would want clicithat? anything >> yeah. who would want clicithat? move anything >> yeah. who would want clicithat? move anyt the like that? let's move on to the times the times . a new times now and the times. a new waterloo. what's this ? waterloo. nick what's this? >> this french critics pour >> this is french critics pour scorn on scott's clumsy scorn on ridley scott's clumsy napoleon . and of course they napoleon. and of course they would. that's what french critics do, especially about stuff france they critics do, especially about stuff like. france they critics do, especially about stuff like. itance they critics do, especially about stuff like. it saysthey critics do, especially about stuff like. it says it's

don't like. and it says it's been panned as an anglo—saxon caricature that plays fast and loose with history in other words, movie. and that's words, a movie. and that's what they ask what we want. that's what movies french what hollywood movies are french critics do pour scorn. >> they love they love >> they love it, but they love it smoke critics, french people. >> that's what french people do is pour scorn. is they pour scorn. >> do you think this? >> what do you think about this? i complaining i mean, they're complaining that ridley scott's new film, napoleon and five minutes of garbage. napoleon and five minutes of gar i age. one thing, it's back to >> i say one thing, it's back to louis for five minutes. >> klan stuff. it won't >> ku klux klan stuff. it won't be because i've be garbage in it because i've got the next got a feeling that the next thing going thing he's going to say is going to be so insightful. you'll be able to see the minutes of able to see the minutes ratio of who spoke on this show. >> the straight >> i'm the straight man just says corrections. now we like >> i'm the straight man just sayzroyalctions. now we like >> i'm the straight man just sayzroyalctions. ino, we like >> i'm the straight man just sayzroyal ctions. ino, that ike >> i'm the straight man just sayzroyalctions. ino, that is; the royal family. no, that is factually runs the royal family. no, that is fac'fivey runs the royal family. no, that is fac'five minutes runs the royal family. no, that is fac'five minutes about runs the royal family. no, that is fac'five minutes about quasi runs for five minutes about quasi racist stuff. because? because they don't. >> they don't want what's on the patrick christys show. on this show, them show, we're giving them something it's true . >> listen, louis, it's true. napoleon. you think it's napoleon. do you think it's a problem that the film napoleon is not historically accurate as these french critics claim? >> well, napoleon one >> well, napoleon was one of those that could have those films that i could have beenin those films that i could have been in they chosen me. been in if they had chosen me. but too far away. they but it was too far away. they were up you were filming it up in in. you were filming it up in in. you

were never going to be in nepal. yes. were filming it for yes. they were filming it for like months years. all like months and years. all right, you're upset, right, nick, since you're upset, i'll you this. >> do you do not think, >> do you do you not think, though, there is a case though, that there is a case here you misrepresent here that if you misrepresent history hollywood, history in hollywood, that that is people is the thing that sticks? people start oh , that did start saying, oh, that did happen, because saw happen, didn't it? because i saw the of it. the film of it. >> yeah. i mean, there's stuff that bothers me when do that bothers me is when they do ridiculous know, ridiculous casting, you know, people who are obviously a certain another certain race are another race. but when like key but when it's like certain key scenes to make them bit more scenes to make them a bit more exciting, think that's okay. exciting, i think that's okay. i like ridley scott's defence, where dismissed the critics like ridley scott's defence, whe said, dismissed the critics like ridley scott's defence, whe said, mynissed the critics like ridley scott's defence, whe said, my answerthe critics like ridley scott's defence, whe said, my answer to critics like ridley scott's defence, whe said, my answer to thems like ridley scott's defence, whe said, my answer to them is and said, my answer to them is how you there? how do you know? were you there? which incredible defence which is an incredible defence for all of history that works because in braveheart. for all of history that works becwilliam in braveheart. for all of history that works becwilliam wallace aveheart. for all of history that works becwilliam wallace ave depicted >> william wallace is depicted as with edward, the as having sex with edward, the second but second wife australian. but edward the second wife ten second wife australian. but edwaroldie second wife ten second wife australian. but edwarold at ;econd wife ten second wife australian. but edwarold at the nd wife ten second wife australian. but edwarold at the time. e ten second wife australian. but edwarold at the time. so ten second wife australian. but edwarold at the time. so let'sn years old at the time. so let's hope happen. right. hope that didn't happen. right. but a about but you know, it's a film about an well an australian paedophile. well i mean, that's the point. is that what it is? is that the what it is? is that what the film about? what it is? is that what the filnthisibout? what it is? is that what the filnthis is»ut? what it is? is that what the filnthis is what film is, you >> this is what film is, you know, make your films. know, make your own films. i remember seeing the remember i remember seeing the film ghetto, film about the warsaw ghetto, where like where they made it seem like the i to about it i don't want to talk about it because but i'm glad. >> i'm glad you raised and

>> i'm glad you raised it and immediately talking >> i'm glad you raised it and imme> i'm glad you raised it and imme> i'm glad you raised it and imme> what do you mean by that ? >> what do you mean by that? >> what do you mean by that? >> well, because it's a story about age gap . about the age about age gap. about the age gap. why you, gap. that's why i'm asking you, why i would know why do you think i would know something it? i'm not something about it? i'm not talking about you. don't be so paranoid. talking paranoid. i'm not talking about you relationship. you and your relationship. although she is young, she's a lot you, isn't she? lot younger than you, isn't she? no look, you raised it. i didn't want to go. i didn't want to talk about your private life. louis, you. louis, you've made it about you. >> what? do you know what? >> andrew, are what? >> andrew, doing >> andrew, what are you doing now? i. >> actually got you a tie. >> i actually got you a tie. i brought you a i brought you a tie . yeah, you.

brought you a i brought you a tie well,i, you. brought you a i brought you a tie well, you'reiu. brought you a i brought you a tie well, you're not going to >> well, you're not going to give me that now. you're going to withhold gift. out, out, to withhold your gift. out, out, out. because you're grumpy about. out. because you're grumpy aboyou could talk . you. do you >> you could talk. you. do you see story, nick? see this story, nick? >> yes. age, inappropriate relationships, age gap. >> yes. age, inappropriate relerelationshipsz gap. >> yes. age, inappropriate relerelationships are p. be >> relationships are set to be 2024. biggest dating trend. and it's nothing to do with louis, but you know, it's saying that basically loosening but you know, it's saying that bason lly loosening but you know, it's saying that bason the loosening but you know, it's saying that bason the idea loosening but you know, it's saying that bason the idea that loosening but you know, it's saying that bason the idea that loois1ing but you know, it's saying that bason the idea that loois a1g but you know, it's saying that bason the idea that loois a big up on the idea that age is a big problem they're open to problem and they're more open to different although different age races, although i'm still get i'm sure men will still get hammered. you everyone's hammered. you know, everyone's saying a saying leonardo dicaprio is a monster goes out with monster because he goes out with 25 partly it's partly 25 roles. but partly it's partly it's realities. i think it's economic realities. i think people i need people are like, oh, i need someone money. that's someone with money. that's my take. annoyingly, women take. but also annoyingly, women are less to someone with are less open to someone with differing views. and are less open to someone with diyou've views. and are less open to someone with diyou've beeniews. and are less open to someone with diyou've been on s. and are less open to someone with diyou've been on the 1d are less open to someone with diyou've been on the apps, if you've ever been on the apps, they're so you they're all lefties. so then you know you're in trouble straight away yeah, it's away for that. but yeah, it's about oh, and they're saying women are rebelling against constant self—improve. so basically lefty is basically an overweight lefty is what you what to you're explain this to me, louis, because i don't understand why it's anyone's business. >> if two consenting adults are in relationship ship. so what in a relationship ship. so what if 20 year gap? if there's a 20 year age gap? it's with me. it's got nothing to do with me. >> not immoral.

>> it's not immoral. >> it's not immoral. >> no, it's. it's not. what's the gap in your the age gap in your relationship, out relationship, louis? out of interest. considerable. interest. it's considerable. anyway, thanks for the tie . anyway, thanks for the tie. right. we're going to move on now to this next story. india is a good place to be an alcoholic man in this time story. nick >> yes, most living organ donors in india are women giving kidneys to men. what a breath of fresh air. so this is about how nearly all the donors are women giving to men, even when your brother's the perfect match, they go to the wife instead. and it's basically the patriarchy alive and well in india , know alive and well in india, know what and they're saying what i mean? and they're saying the times are saying, oh, inequality, inequality inequality, gender inequality affects areas of life. maybe affects all areas of life. maybe these just nice and these women are just nice and like want to give them kidneys. >> that's the reason you've >> that's not the reason you've got give got your time. give give a reason. legitimate reason. there's a legitimate reason. there's a legitimate reason why the give the kid. >> why what is the reason? >> why what is the reason? >> because gives the >> because if the man gives the kidneys, he's out of work. he can't any money. and he can't make any money. and if he dies , there's money for dies, there's no more money for the he dies. the family and he dies. >> one kidney, >> you only need one kidney, though, no, surgery. it can >> yeah. no, the surgery. it can kill people. and, know, it's kill people. and, you know, it's india. don't know india. it's. i don't know how

the is there, but the medical thing is there, but this the thing. they don't this is the thing. they don't want the men's life want to risk the men's life because the men bring home the money. women money. i'm sorry. women are. >> in fact, >> so this is, in fact, the patriarchy in action. it's not the patriarchy. patriarchy in action. it's not the it's riarchy. patriarchy in action. it's not the it's common sense. because if >> it's common sense. because if the dies, the entire family the man dies, the entire family starves. if the woman dies, then just the woman dies. >> yeah. it says the feeling is that if something happens to the woman, bad. it's woman, it's not so bad. it's kind of schaffer type opinion. >> isn't. it isn't. just >> it isn't. it isn't. i just said the entire said if the man dies, the entire family dies. >> no, i think he's lewis is desperately trying to make a sensible point here. not sensible point here. we're not taking him seriously. so actually, should be to actually, we should be nicer to him once. yeah yeah. him for once. yeah yeah. >> how you like your tie? the >> how do you like your tie? the >> how do you like your tie? the >> like the tie, lewis show. >> the people it's made from. it's from there is. it's it's made from there it is. it's made from meat. >> going to wait, lewis. >> i'm going to wait, lewis. i'll will wear i'll tell you what. i will wear that speech nation this that on free speech nation this sunday. you sunday. will that make you happy? yeah there we go. there we so we've got we go. all right, so we've got time for quickly one more story. this mirror. for whom this is the mirror. and for whom does the bell lewis yes . does the bell toll? lewis yes. >> so somebody church bells have been rung every hour for 200 plus years. silence after noise

complaints. this is in the mirror . and complaints. this is in the mirror. and somebody made a complaint about church bells and they they said to the church, you can't do the church bells anymore because us and this is in scotland, but the truth is it's an snp run council. yeah >> well they're loud and annoying but nick it's tradition andifs annoying but nick it's tradition and it's religion . and it's religion. >> tricky because it's two of the things i care about. you know, i care about tradition and churches and church bells, but i also about noises. you hate also care about noises. you hate noise. real problem also care about noises. you hate noi me, real problem also care about noises. you hate noi me, this real problem also care about noises. you hate noi me, this one. real problem also care about noises. you hate noi me, this one. yeah. roblem also care about noises. you hate noi me, this one. yeah. because for me, this one. yeah. because they were ringing from 11 they were ringing them from 11 pm. and does pm. to 7 am. and that does seem unreasonable. mean, pm. to 7 am. and that does see|awake. unreasonable. mean, pm. to 7 am. and that does see|awake. inreasonable. mean, pm. to 7 am. and that does see|awake. i mean,1able. mean, pm. to 7 am. and that does see|awake. i mean, i'm e. mean, pm. to 7 am. and that does see|awake. i mean, i'm awakeean, i'm awake. i mean, i'm awake working all day long, including 11. >> including. 11. >> noluding. ii. 11. >> no , i'm saying including >> no, i'm saying including those the hours would be those are the hours would be most were most objectionable if you were trying although trying to sleep. although i sleep they wanted cancel the. >> i'm against everything. >> i'm against everything. >> show nearly over, >> well the show is nearly over, unfortunately. let's take unfortunately. but let's take another thursday's another quick look at thursday's front before we go. the front pages before we go. the guardian is leading vows guardian is leading with pm vows to rwanda plan to push through rwanda plan after it unlawful . after court rules it unlawful. the telegraph has that same story. pm will use emergency law to start rwanda flights. the

mirror has. is nothing sacred? that's a new book about the royal family the express. pm fights back. we will deport migrants. financial times is also running with that story. defiant sunak vows to change law as top court strikes down rwanda policy and the daily star november something to do with snow in november. i gather from the headline, that's all we've got time for tonight. thank you. ever ever so much for my wonderful guests , lewis schaffer wonderful guests, lewis schaffer and nick dixon. lewis they're holding his calendar. we're back tomorrow at 11 with stephen allen, paul cox and lewis wrecking it. and if you're watching the 5 am, repeat,

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as he moves to strike a new treaty with rwanda that would deem it a safe country for refugees after the supreme court found his plan unlawful . found his plan unlawful. >> a huge blow for sir keir starmer. he suffers a major rebellion over labour's position on a ceasefire in gaza. eight frontbenchers quitting . frontbenchers quitting. >> elsewhere, royal rage among the courtiers, as a new book reveals claims of a prince william and harry feud whilst the late queen lay dying. >> paul coyte eight is here with your sport today. good morning, paul >> good morning, eamonn india through to the world cup final will could the ghost of roman abramovich be haunting chelsea again? and also the rugby world cup is nearly stolen . cup is nearly stolen. >> oh, i thought nearly. yes it's i thought that's not still going on, is it? oh, no, no, no, no. >> i'm talking about the trophy. not nearly stolen. it's. it's very nearly stolen. it's it's kind of like the pink panther with david niven, but not quite. >> but i'll tell