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to discussing suella route to rwanda sure lots rwanda then. well i'm sure lots of on them whole of you have driven on them whole load cash to fix the bad load of cash to fix the bad roads. they finally decide they're to use of the they're going to use some of the money hsz to perhaps fix money for hsz to perhaps fix some of those potholes that have emerged all across this country. so we'll be looking into that. have you ever, unfortunately dnven have you ever, unfortunately driven into one.7 and have you ever, unfortunately driven into one? and then, of course, we'll be moving on to this. chancellor's benefit this. the chancellor's benefit crackdown. so that'll be interesting to see. jobs and benefits . it's always a topic of benefits. it's always a topic of discussion. what do you think? does he need to crack down on those who are claiming benefits? and finally, somebody who and then finally, somebody who always goat, gary always gets my goat, gary lineker, they're extending his contract at the bbc. hold on a minute. 1.3 million of our licence fee payers money, they're going to extend it, which probably means that his money is going to go up. i don't think so. what do you think? we'll be discussing that in a few moments time .
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few moments time. >> nana thank you very much. 3:01. this is the latest from the newsroom. the prime minister says he's determined to get his plan to deport asylum seekers to rwanda through as quickly as possible, despite opposition . possible, despite opposition. >> will the prime minister rescue the rwanda plan? mrs. braverman it's after the former home secretary said his attempts will fail unless he opts out of the european convention on human rights. >> suella braverman, who was sacked this week, says the proposed new treaty in legislation is simply a tweaked version of the failed plan. a she warned rishi sunak's proposal will get bogged down in the courts, but he says he will take on anyone standing in his way. >> we've got to get the rwanda plan up and running . >> we've got to get the rwanda plan up and running. i will do whatever it takes to make that happen. people are sick of this merry go round. i want to end it. my patience is wearing thin like everyone else is. that's why emergency legislation why our emergency legislation will crystal clear that will make it crystal clear that rwanda is safe for these purposes. it meets all the concerns that people have raised
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because of our new arrangement with them. and we to stop with them. and we want to stop any more domestic challenges to this program. and i've also been clear that won't let clear that we won't let a foreign court stand in the way of us getting a flight off to rwanda. >> labour leaders refusing >> the labour leaders refusing to back for a ceasefire, to back calls for a ceasefire, claiming party remains claiming his party remains unhed claiming his party remains united despite this week's rebellion on a visit to a gas terminal in aberdeen, sir keir starmer indicated his position proves he's the right person to be the next prime minister. however gb news understands there's concern within the party of a growing rift between sir keir the scottish labour keir and the scottish labour leader sarwar . msps look leader anas sarwar. msps look likely to back an amendment in holyrood next week calling for a ceasefire . the labour leader ceasefire. the labour leader says his focus is on the release of hostages and the plight of civilians alleviating the suffering and a two state solution and making sure we get there. >> there is complete unity in the labour party . three hostages the labour party. three hostages are being held as we have this conversation, as people are dying in gaza, as we have this conversation , i'm sure you will
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conversation, i'm sure you will understand that my focus is on how we alleviate that situation, not questions of labour party management to 12 year old boys have been remanded into youth detention at birmingham magistrates court charged with murder and possessing a machete. >> they're accused of killing 19 year old sean francis zahawi, who was attacked in wolverhampton on monday night and died at the scene. they'll both appear in court again on monday . a man has been sentenced monday. a man has been sentenced to life in prison for the murder of a school teacher in county offaly . 33 year old yosef puskar offaly. 33 year old yosef puskar killed 23 year old ashley murphy while she was exercising on a canal path in tullamore in january last year. her mother says her heart was ripped from her body the moment she learned that her daughter had been killed . elsewhere, retail sales killed. elsewhere, retail sales have unexpectedly fallen , have unexpectedly fallen, dropping to their lowest level since the pandemic.
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dropping to their lowest level since the pandemic . the office since the pandemic. the office for national statistics says retail sales volumes dipped o.3% retail sales volumes dipped 0.3% last month. analysts had expected a rise. retailers blame the cost of living reduced footfall and wet . weather £83 footfall and wet. weather £83 billion footfall and wet. weather £8.3 billion has been promised to fix what the prime minister has described as the scourge of potholes. the funding for road maintenance in england will be available to local authorities over decade . the money over the next decade. the money was saved by scrapping the hs2 rail north of birmingham . rail line north of birmingham. british gas is hiring hundreds of new staff . the energy giant of new staff. the energy giant says they'll work at contact centres across the uk to help customers who are struggling with their bills. around 700 new jobs are being created by the end of the year. rat infested bedford prisons been issued with an urgent notice to improve . an urgent notice to improve. inspectors found inmates are being held in mouldy cells with broken windows for up to 23
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hours a day. levels of violence against staff in the last month were also the highest of any aduu were also the highest of any adult male prison in the country and recorded self—harm. the third highest rate. it's the fifth jail to be given an urgent noficein fifth jail to be given an urgent notice in the last 12 months and engush notice in the last 12 months and english premier league football club everton has had ten points deducted for breaches of profit and sustainability rules following a five day hearing last month, the commission found everton's losses during the 20 2122 season amounted . to £124.5 2122 season amounted. to £124.5 million. that's almost 20 million. that's almost 20 million more than the allowed limit . the penalty leaves them limit. the penalty leaves them on four points and plunges them into the relegation zone. the club says it's going to appeal the decision in this case is gb news across the uk on tv, in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play on your smart speaker by saying play gb news. now let's return to nana .
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to nana. >> good afternoon . it's fast >> good afternoon. it's fast approaching. seven minutes after 3:00. this is gb news on tv onune 3:00. this is gb news on tv online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua. and of course we are the people's channel. now, in the people's channel. now, in the week that rishi sunak vowed to get his rwanda scheme back on track, gb news can reveal that around 1000 people. yes, you heard it here. a thousand people have crossed in small boats in recent days. even his own former home secretary, suella braverman, has doubted his ability to deliver on his key pledge of stopping the boats , pledge of stopping the boats, claiming that tinkering with a failed plan is not going to work. but presumably she's including her self because, after all, that plan was partly created by her when she was home secretary. now our home and security editor, mark white is in dover. mark so what can you tell us from your location ? tell us from your location? >> well , it's tell us from your location? >> well, it's incredible to think that we are well into november now and still very
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significant numbers can come across on calm days. it's a calm day today and we're expecting more in the way of small boats to leave the beaches of north western france. there's quite a bit of activity on the other side of the channel at the moment with french patrol vessels and lifeboats out along that northwest eastern french coast looking for any small boats that might push off from the beaches there. and at the beginning of the week, we had a good day in which 615 people came across . and then again came across. and then again yesterday , close to 400 people yesterday, close to 400 people came across as well. so now, of course, in terms of overall numbers from where we were at this point last year, it's about a third down. but we see a third down. it's still close to 28,000 people have come across from france . in these small boats
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france. in these small boats since although rishi sunak is claiming that it is his government that plans and proposals that are beginning to show dividends, that are working here, those that we speak to that know this english channel very well say actually it's much more to do with the weather forecast out there, which has really seen for many months now unpredictable weather north and north easterly winds blowing, which will make it much more difficult for these boats to push off from the shores of north western france because it's pushing them back against the beaches. and it's also when it blows from the north, much more prone to churning up the prevailing tides and it just makes those crossings much more difficult . difficult. >> so, mark, presumably these people, again, are being picked up and going through processing centres somewhere in the uk . do centres somewhere in the uk. do you get a sense from the people
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who actually reside around these areas that they believe that the government's plan or . the these government's plan or. the these boats . boats. >> i you know, many people that you speak to are not at all confident that whatever the government is planning will make that much difference . at the end that much difference. at the end of the day, the rwanda plan, well, it's not even had the opportunity. 19 months after that plan was first announced by bofis that plan was first announced by boris johnson at lydd airport here in kent . it's not even been here in kent. it's not even been tested in any way, shape or form as not a single flight has left for rwanda. some people are doubtful that actually it will be the deterrent that the british government hope it will be, but at least it should be given a chance. many sisters say, to show that it could break the business model. it might have to send quite a few thousand people in short order
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to rwanda to have any real effect. and we don't know as yet just how many people would be sent to rwanda if it ever passes in the first place. i think what we can definitely say with regard to that supreme court decision this week is that whether that rwanda deal does eventually get through , if it eventually get through, if it isn't getting through any time soon, despite the optimistic tones that are coming out of rishi sunak, it's still going to have to be tested in the courts again, and not just one court. it will go right through the system of high court to court of appeal to potentially the supreme court as well before we're done and dusted. and i don't think many people believe that actually will get to a conclusion of whether this is finally legal or not before the next general election . next general election. >> well, mark, thank you for that. that's mark wyatt. he's in doven he that. that's mark wyatt. he's in dover. he is our homeland security editor here at gb news.
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thank you so much. right. well, it just seems that nothing seems to be happening. nothing seems to be happening. nothing seems to work when it comes to this rwanda plan. but if you've just tuned welcome. nana tuned in, welcome. i'm nana requests minutes requests coming up to 12 minutes after downing have after 3:00 downing street have not out the prospect of not ruled out the prospect of mps law mps debating an emergency law over christmas to tackle the channel crossings. rishi sunak has promised to take on whoever is standing in the way of the rwanda plan, but it's not just suella braverman who's taken a swipe at rishi over his swipe at rishi sunak over his plan. his plan, we say. but then she was the home secretary at the time, so i find it interesting that she's now saying it's his plan. so keir starmer says the prime minister should pursuing expensive should stop pursuing expensive gimmicks . well, gb news deputy gimmicks. well, gb news deputy political editor tom harwood joins me in the studio. tom i read suella piece in the telegraph. she seems to be saying that this plan won't work and neither will any tweaking of it . and it's almost as though it. and it's almost as though she absorbs all responsible for the plan itself . surely it is the plan itself. surely it is partly she is to blame for this ?
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partly she is to blame for this? >> well, she was home secretary for over a year and indeed , all for over a year and indeed, all of the preparations that we've been hearing about this draft treaty that has almost been completed now with rwanda will have been being written while she was home secretary. so the things that the government is saying now, it's odd that suella braverman is going against them. however, people around her would say that she wanted to go further in that role, but was held back by the prime minister indeed, there were many public disagreements between her. one of the reasons she was eventually let go from the cabinet course, is because cabinet of course, is because she freewheeling on she was freewheeling on communications and to a lesser extent, policy . so yes, there is extent, policy. so yes, there is this rift growing, but but there is an interesting sort of line of difference , the prime of difference, the prime minister wanting to sort of tweak the way in which these international agreements are interpreted and indeed work to reform these international agreements from the inside as we've already started to see a little bit with the echr . what
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little bit with the echr. what suella braverman is saying, however , is that parliament however, is that parliament should legislate to simply override all of these different agreements . and we must remember agreements. and we must remember this is not just the echr. there are other international agreements. the un convention on refugees, for example, and other agreements, the united kingdom is suella braverman is a party to suella braverman believes that passing a bill with what's known as a notwithstanding clause within it, which would simply say notwithstanding this agreement and that agreement and that agreement , we will do and that agreement and that agreement, we will do this, and that agreement and that agreement , we will do this, she agreement, we will do this, she believes we can simply disregard all those international agreements . the problem all those international agreements. the problem is all those international agreements . the problem is the agreements. the problem is the house of commons isn't the only block in the way there. it's got to get past the lords and we know the tories only have one third of the seats in the house of lords. the closer to suella braverman position get, the braverman position you get, the less it pass the less likely it is to pass the lords which is why the prime minister may well be wanting to be a bit more moderate in his tone towards these international agreements because he knows that tone towards these international agheements because he knows that tone towards these international aghe wants because he knows that tone towards these international aghe wants to ecause he knows that tone towards these international aghe wants to ecauzemergency; that
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if he wants to get emergency legislation it's got to legislation through, it's got to go both houses . go through both houses. >> a sense we are almost >> so in a sense we are almost our own worst enemy because even though we manage to even if this law, if we manage to come up with an idea of this supposed law, it's unlikely to get past the house of lords. and then ultimately it doesn't seem like there's going be enough there's going to be enough much time, time for this to time, enough time for this to actually go through. and so keir starmer he's to starmer said that he's going to scrap thing altogether i >> -- >> you hau- hu— >> you can imagine this as a sort of sliding scale. the more the law disregards the courts, the law disregards the courts, the less likely it is the law is to pass the lords. but the less the law override the courts, the more likely it is to pass. but will it actually fix the problem if it does pass? so you can sort of see the conundrum that the government in there and it government is in there and it was interesting listening to what had what the prime minister had to say a little bit earlier. he was interviewed and interviewed by reporters and he started house started saying that if the house of lords stands in the way, if the stands the the labour party stands in the way, take the fight to way, we will take the fight to them. it sounded a little bit like of general election like a sort of general election slogan remember back
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slogan. now if we remember back to 2019 when boris johnson tried to 2019 when boris johnson tried to get brexit passed and parliament kept stopping him and stopping end he stopping him, and in the end he went country saying, went to the country saying, you're to me with you're going to elect me with a big majority going big majority and we're going to get done. that's what get brexit done. and that's what happened some in happened. and there are some in westminster think rishi westminster who think that rishi sunak say the sunak might want to say the house of lords is stopping me. the party is stopping me. the labour party is stopping me. we mandate the we need a mandate from the people we can drive people so that then we can drive this both of the this through both houses of the commons the lords. the big commons and the lords. the big question though, more question is though, it's more words. people want to see action and the prime minister goes and if the prime minister goes to without having to the polls without having delivered action this , delivered action on this, potentially it won't work as well as it did for boris johnson. >> well , but johnson. >> well, but then there's the prospect that if it is a labour government that they're going to scrap anyway. scrap it altogether anyway. >> certainly the labour party would there's been £140 would say there's been £140 million has been sunk into million that has been sunk into this project so far with more home secretaries sent to rwanda than migrants. certainly we've had multiple trips out from both priti patel and then suella braverman and not a single migrant flights taking off their
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where the labour party say that this is a gimmick and that there would only be a small number of places for those that come across on small boats to end up there anyway. they see it as a distraction. conservative distraction. the conservative party hand , says distraction. the conservative partis hand , says distraction. the conservative partis a hand , says distraction. the conservative partis a vital hand , says distraction. the conservative partis a vital deterrenti , says distraction. the conservative part is a vital deterrent if says distraction. the conservative part is a vital deterrent if aays this is a vital deterrent if a migrant coming across on a small boat knows that there is a chance they will be to chance they will be sent to rwanda rather making a life rwanda rather than making a life in the united kingdom, they're less come in less likely to come across in that boat. less likely to come across in that it boat. less likely to come across in that it alsot. less likely to come across in that it also opens the door to >> and it also opens the door to similar places that similar policies and places that we can send migrants. but i'm just wondering why is it, though, that there is such an objection to rwanda when other countries are doing it? i mean, isn't it the un who sent people to rwanda? >> so the un, the un has previously praised rwanda's refugee scheme and agency with regard to some conflicts around the world. however, the problem is , i believe, what united is, i believe, what united kingdom courts are interpreting as as this problem of refoulement it and the trustworthiness of the rwandan
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government. and this is one of the reasons why the government wants to upgrade what's known as the memorandum of understand ing to treaty level here, to a full treaty level here, because a treaty is much harder to go back on in in that enshrined international law. but ultimately the question is will uk courts think , hang on, rwanda uk courts think, hang on, rwanda is not that trustworthy as a partner , there is arguably a partner, there is arguably a dictatorship in charge of that country. could they just disregard could this even treaty level law? that's the disagreement at the heart of things between the courts and the government . the government. >> tom, thank you very much for explaining that. so succinctly. thatis explaining that. so succinctly. that is tom harwood fabulous, right? well, joining me now now is international security and border control expert henry bolton, . henry okay, so bolton, obe. henry okay, so thomas, literally explained why this is just going back and forth, back and forth and how in actual fact, i don't think it has a hope of actually getting through in your view, what should be done then, if this
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legislation was struggling to get any of this passed? and it's going back and forth, back and forth, what do you think that we need be doing ? need to be doing? >> well, no, i mean, you know , >> well, no, i mean, you know, what's the aim here? >> the aim here is to reduce the number of small boat crossings. the isn't to take or send the aim isn't to take or send people to rwanda . you know, in people to rwanda. you know, in former military or former career, i was a military man. and you would say, you know, send people to rwanda in order to stop the boats. the mission here is to stop the boats, not not rwanda . and somehow the not rwanda. and somehow the government isn't parliament, the courts , the media, the public courts, the media, the public have all become fixated on rwanda . and let's put this into rwanda. and let's put this into perspective. the government has a sort of a wish to ultimately be able to send 500 people to rwanda for a year, thereabouts . rwanda for a year, thereabouts. now, if you've got like we did last year, 40,000, well, a lot more than 40,000, but say 40,000 people come across in small boats . you're sending 1 in 80 boats. you're sending 1 in 80 back over to rwanda. that is not
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going to be a deterrent. this is not and i repeat, not going to have any meaningful impact on the flow of boats across the channel that's point number one. point number two is whilst it's going to have that little very little bang for buck , the actual little bang for buck, the actual focus or the resources and the bandwidth of government courts , bandwidth of government courts, etcetera, being taken up on this is entirely ridiculous . so, you is entirely ridiculous. so, you know , but if you really want to know, but if you really want to do it suella braverman is right. the legislation needs to be brought in with the phrase notwithstanding. that's that's the start point legislation. legislative but going back to the mission , stopping the boats, the mission, stopping the boats, we've got to have a fully comprehensive cross—governmental strategy that brings in all the different government departments, all the different agencies, and brings coherence to what they're doing, unity of effort what they're doing. effort to what they're doing. and to do that, you've got to have strategic vision and strategic objectives, none of which by
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which have been set by government. there is no such strategy . i've said before strategy. i've said before albania has such a strategy. the repubuc albania has such a strategy. the republic of macedonia has such a strategy . bosnia has such strategy. bosnia has such a strategy. bosnia has such a strategy. all these countries that we think of sort of that we think of as sort of trying to up with the rest trying to catch up with the rest of well, actually, no, no. of us. well, actually, no, no. we're behind and there is no we're way behind and there is no excuse for it. that's what's needed. as part of needed. and as part of developing that , you need to developing that, you need to look at what is it you're trying to achieve, how do you want to achieve it? do you have the legislative tools to do it? and again, i'll remind people, it's not just migrants coming across the borders. it's all of the cocaine all heroin in cocaine and all of the heroin in this country. and 97% of the illegal firearms in this country. there are other risks that we're not that our borders that we're not deaung that our borders that we're not dealing with. so we need to bnng dealing with. so we need to bring all of that into how we manage the borders as well. it's very , but it's been done very complex, but it's been done in other countries in the space of eight months and there's no reason why it can't be done here in that time. if parliament and government will listen in and if there is the will to do it .
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there is the will to do it. >> well, listen, henry, that's a big if because they're too busy fighting like cats in a sack, aren't they? frankly listen, henry bolton, thank you very much. always good to talk to you. welcome aboard. if you just tuned in, up to 22 tuned in, coming up to 22 minutes 3:00, this is gb minutes after 3:00, this is gb news. i'm nana akua. coming up, we'll be discussing war on we'll be discussing the war on potholes as the government announced extra £83 billion announced an extra £83 billion to fund road repairs as it steers cash away from the defunct hs2 projects . this is gb defunct hs2 projects. this is gb news. we are the people's channel. more to
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sunday mornings from 930 on gb news is . news is. >> good afternoon . it's just >> good afternoon. it's just coming up to 26 minutes after 3:00. this is gb news. we are the people's channel. i'm nana akua. the people's channel. i'm nana akua . we're bringing you the akua. we're bringing you the latest live until 6:00. next up, the government , they're the government, they're announcing an extra £83 billion to fund road repairs as it steers cash away from the defunct hs2 projects. now the money will be spent over 11 years in a bid to make journeys smoother and safer whilst also trying to win support of drivers ahead of an election year. but britain's leading campaigner, mr pothole , says that it's only a pothole, says that it's only a fraction of what is needed. our reporter will hollis has the story . story. >> meet your nemesis potholes . >> meet your nemesis potholes. mark is a council's nightmare, yet every driver's dream. but even after a decade of campaigns
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for road repairs, mr pothole can still be shocked . at oh, that's still be shocked. at oh, that's a that's wreck me steering. today's target, marston saint lawrence , a quiet corner of lawrence, a quiet corner of northamptonshire plagued with pothole problems nonetheless , as pothole problems nonetheless, as you can see, the cracking and crazing there where the water's got in, it got in and it's breaking it down. >> it's now starting to break down the base course rather than the course, wearing the wearing course, the wearing course the top mill. but course is the top 4050 mill. but onceit course is the top 4050 mill. but once it starts getting into the base course , it won't take long base course, it won't take long before that ends up into a crater. >> potholes are a nationwide nuisance . the aa says it's been nuisance. the aa says it's been called to 450,000 incidents this year alone. lee is one of the many unfortunate drivers to face a pothole and lose the wheel cracked and wear the tyre had hit this edge of the pothole. >> it actually split the
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sidewall. >> his car and wallet took a beating. i'm a pensioner, so i'm not sort of rolling in money. >> don't run a rolls—royce, just running a very old car. >> it's another 250 odd pound. i can't really afford. >> there's hope. today, the >> but there's hope. today, the government is announcing billions in extra funding for road repairs that should have been spent on hs2 in surrey. the county council is fixing fractures with the transport secretary, mark harper, in tow. the government is offering fresh funding for 5000 miles of repairs . worth £8.3 billion over repairs. worth £8.3 billion over 11 years. >> everyone who uses roads is going to benefit from this announcement about improving the quality of local roads . it's the quality of local roads. it's the top priority for drivers and i make no apology for delivering what they want to see. >> road repair and councils must pubush >> road repair and councils must publish how they spend the money. the local government association has welcomed the boost, but estimates the bill for overdue repairs has already
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reached 14 billion. back in northamptonshire , mark says the northamptonshire, mark says the money is a fraction of what's needed. >> any new money for road maintenance i would welcome, but it's only bringing it back to what they were spending in 2019 . what they were spending in 2019. >> is this the beginning of a journey toward a pothole free britain or just a cushion ahead britain orjust a cushion ahead of a long and bumpy ride? will hollis . gb of a long and bumpy ride? will hollis. gb news so interesting though, but will joins us now . though, but will joins us now. >> will okay, so it's a problem, but how big a problem is it really? because they've got a lot of things that could be spending their money on. this spending their money on. is this something that they need to be addressing ? addressing? >> yes. well, the government says that this could save the average driver around £400 because if they fill potholes, they won't have to go to the local garage and get their car fixed. we saw there in the piece
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the aa estimates it's . 400,000 the aa estimates it's. 400,000 thousand pothole related incidents that they've got out to right now. so that's why the government is focusing it on it from a problem point of view . from a problem point of view. but then you can be a little bit more cynical and think, well, why are they really trying to fix up the roads in a year before the election , when i said before the election, when i said that the money hasn't just appeared nowhere, it's appeared out of nowhere, it's come from the now defunct hs2 projects, £36 billion worth of money is going to be funnelled into . into. >> oh, sorry, sorry. you're already. it's going a bit funny. we'll try and get you back. look at him. bless his heart. we'll come back to him on that one. but potholes, they're a nightmare, aren't they? this is gb come. nightmare, aren't they? this is gb chancellor come. nightmare, aren't they? this is gb chancellor has come. nightmare, aren't they? this is gb chancellor has said come. nightmare, aren't they? this is gb chancellor has said thata. the chancellor has said that benefit who seek benefit claimants who don't seek employment to employment despite being fit to work, lose access to things work, will lose access to things like prescriptions and like free prescriptions and legal and so much more legal aid. this and so much more to bring you. but first, let's get your news headlines get your latest news headlines
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with . nana. with tatiana. nana. >> thank you. this is the latest from the gb newsroom. the prime minister says he's determined to get his plan to deport migrants to rwanda through as quickly as possible, despite opposition. >> will the prime minister rescued the rwanda plan. mrs. braverman it's after the former home secretary said his attempts will fail unless he opts out of the european convention on human rights >> suella braverman says the proposed new treaty in legislation is simply a tweaked version of the failed plan. a . version of the failed plan. a. engush version of the failed plan. a. english premier league football club, everton , has had ten club, everton, has had ten points deducted for breaches of profit and sustainability rules following a five day hearing last month, the commission found everton's losses during the 20 2122 season amounted to £1245 million. that's almost £20 million. that's almost £20 million more than the allowed limit. the club says it will appeal the decision . £8.3
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report each afternoon. >> i'm alex deakin. this is your latest weather update from the met office for gb news. after a fine friday for most, met office for gb news. after a fine friday for most , the fine friday for most, the weather is on the change again. rain is returned and it'll be a soggy start tomorrow. but by the afternoon most places will brighten up again. low pressure is edging in already spreading into the south—west of england, south wales and northern ireland ahead of it actually turning quite evening. could quite cold this evening. could be pockets frost across be some pockets of frost across northern scotland . but as the northern scotland. but as the wet weather arrives, will wet weather arrives, it will turn milder. that rain could cause disruption cause a bit of disruption through parts northern through parts of northern ireland, wales ireland, south wales and south—west where south—west england, where we have office warnings in have met office warnings in place. these are the minimum temperatures, be temperatures, but these will be quite evening. quite early in the evening. i think morning time. the think by morning time. the temperatures will be a little bit this rain is bit higher because this rain is bringing will bringing mild air, but it will be soggy start. a lot be a very soggy start. a lot of spray and surface the spray and surface water on the roads for south wales and south—west but most south—west england, but most places on places starting damp on saturday, most places also brightening rain clears brightening up the rain clears away the east. by lunchtime away to the east. by lunchtime we'll keep some showers going over scotland and over western scotland and northern ireland, but many
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places turning brighter. although may hang on the although kent may hang on to the rain into the afternoon, rain well into the afternoon, temperatures again pretty mild for the time of year where it brightens up. we could easily get 15, maybe 16, but get 14, 15, maybe 16, but feeling with wind feeling cooler with the wind windier again on sunday, particularly the south, particularly across the south, very blustery here, lots of cloud around, fairly frequent showers coming and going. may stay dry in eastern scotland and there'll be some brighter spells elsewhere. generally elsewhere. but generally a cloudy day with some showers, again, , but feeling again, quite mild, but feeling cooler wind . cooler with the wind. >> good afternoon. coming up to 34 minutes after 3:00. this is gb news. we are at the people's channel. don't forget, you can also stream us live on youtube or download the gb news app for free. now we've got so much more to come. i'll be bringing you all latest up until this all the latest up until six this evening. but next up, the chancellor benefit chancellor says that benefit claimants don't seek claimants who don't seek employment despite fit to employment despite being fit to work, will lose access to free
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prescriptions and legal aid. now, jeremy hunt says that the measures are necessary to prevent anyone choosing to coast on the hard work of tax payers . on the hard work of tax payers. the government crackdown will also see digital tools used to track attendance at job fairs and interviews. so joining me now is tv personality deirdre kelly, otherwise known as white d deirdre , what do you make of d deirdre, what do you make of this? is this just some red meat that they're chucking at us so that they're chucking at us so that we'll vote for them because we want to crack down on benefits? or does it actually sound like a realistic proposition for people who are claiming benefits ? good claiming benefits? good afternoon . you know, it just afternoon. you know, it just seems like the same old over and over again . over again. >> it's kind of like how do they know who's actively looking for work? >> how do they know who isn't actively looking for work ? actively looking for work? >> um, and if you're going to just stop them receiving prescriptions , then just stop it prescriptions, then just stop it for everyone. >> full stop . so
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>> full stop. so >> full stop. so >> so you think that actually when you look into it, it's actually quite impractical and almost impossible to manage . is almost impossible to manage. is that your view really ? that your view really? >> most definitely. i mean , it >> most definitely. i mean, it seems like, you know, every time they come up with a suggestion about , you know, hitting people about, you know, hitting people on benefits , shall we say, it's on benefits, shall we say, it's like you know, it never comes to pass because how do you actually monitor the number of people on benefits at the moment? it's absolutely sky high. and that actually includes people who are working and are low income . um, working and are low income. um, it's again, it's kind of, you know, let me let me just get the taxpayer up in arms saying, yes, it should be stopped. they shouldn't be entitled to anything. and then it's just going to go under the carpet . going to go under the carpet. >> but it does feel a bit like that. but then what would you say to some of the hard working people and one of the things that you did point out was that a people benefits are a lot of people on benefits are actually working. but what about because people many,
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because i know people not many, but are quite but i know people who are quite happy on the benefits. happy to be on the benefits. we've all all someone we've all we all know someone who's taking of the who's taking advantage of the system respect. what system in that respect. what would you say to the taxpayer looking at that and seeing that it . i mean, i looking at that and seeing that it. i mean, i can looking at that and seeing that it . i mean, i can understand it. i mean, i can understand their frustration. >> it's kind of the same as everything. it's like, you know, the people that are receiving help are kind of, you know, high risk like benefit claimants. but again , that's not taking away again, that's not taking away from the people that work. they haven't been entitled to the cost of living payment . again, cost of living payment. again, they're having to pay nearly £10 per item per prescription . so per item per prescription. so you can understand their frustration. maybe the government needs to make things easier first for people who are working . working. >> in what way? what would you suggest then in kind of like, you know, maybe giving them an entitlement to, you know , it's
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entitlement to, you know, it's the nhs, it's the national health service. >> it's kind of, you know , with >> it's kind of, you know, with regards to like the mental health side of it, you know, and prescription wise and the amount of people that are currently ill and sick. it's like, you know, having to pay like £10 per item. um, it's very, very, very expensive for those that work. so you kind of like you work and you just can't afford to be ill. but when you're ill, you can't afford the medication . it's kind afford the medication. it's kind of like, you know, how do you win in a situation like that ? win in a situation like that? >> well, do you think that >> well, so do you think that perhaps the people are off perhaps the people who are off because they're on some sort of jobseeker's allowance and things like that should pay for their prescriptions in any and prescriptions in any case? and actually, are actually, the people who are working should their working should get their prescriptions free. prescriptions for free. >> maybe it should be more means tested, low income if tested, you know, low income if you're if you're on a low income threshold . and then why threshold. and then why shouldn't you be entitled to, you know , the same as someone you know, the same as someone who is , shall we say, claiming who is, shall we say, claiming benefits and entitled to free dental care, free prescriptions. you know, it should work both
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ways. it should be made easier for everybody that would be amazing. >> but somebody's got to pay for it. that's the problem with it, isn't it? >> i know. i know. i know. i know. yeah. >> that's the thing . is it? >> that's the thing. is it? someone's got to pay for it. so very because we're very quickly because we're running time. then do you running out of time. then do you think, though, that actually the government to government do need to be to start like this to start making moves like this to kind disincentivize people kind of disincentivize people from the from literally taking the proverbial you . think, you know . proverbial you. think, you know. >> yes, but how do you do it, if that makes sense ? how do you that makes sense? how do you prove someone is taking the proverbial do you know what i mean? it's like, you know , it's mean? it's like, you know, it's the same as, you know, if you're on benefits, you have to, um, you have to attend the jobcentre. you have to prove that you're, you know, you're being actively seeking employment, etcetera . i mean, employment, etcetera. i mean, what more can you do apart from rock up to a job interview? whitlam do you know what i mean? it's like, exactly. >> they can to the interview, >> they can go to the interview, but can just answer the but they can just answer the
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questions in stupid style and still taking the still carry on taking the proverbial do you? thank proverbial why do you? thank you very much. lovely to talk to you. all you're watching you. all right. you're watching you're listening you're watching and listening to gb up , you may you're watching and listening to gb up, you may have gb news. coming up, you may have heard patrick christys . heard of him. patrick christys. he'll joining in the he'll be joining me in the studio discuss the wild week studio to discuss the wild week that deal with the that he's had to deal with the pro—palestine protests. i'm nana akua. is gb news, britain's akua. this is gb news, britain's news channel
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news britain's news channel. >> well, good afternoon. welcome on board this is gb news. we are the people's channel. i'm nana akua now this week we've seen thousands demonstratorsjoin thousands of demonstrators join pro—palestine marches in london in a bid to get the government to demand a ceasefire and last night, several demonstrators protested outside the office of the labour mp who didn't back this particular thing. now, the ever diplomatic patrick christys went down to the protest last night for a little chat. here's how it went down. >> i just asked why you're here. don't talk to john lydon. >> why? why? why shouldn't people sort ? so why? why are you here? >> shame on you. shame on you. >> shame on you. shame on you. >> shame on you. shame on you . >> shame on you. shame on you. >> shame on you. shame on you. >> a minute. >> a minute. >> we have to explain to them why we are here in a civil ized manner. >> roshanara ali. >> roshanara ali. >> everyone else in the establishment is condone joining the genocidal murder of
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palestinians. >> did he say in a civilised manner ? patrick christys joins manner? patrick christys joins me now. patrick welcome to your show. no sir. is this patrick? so talk to me about this march because a lot of the people there, they look like, well, initially they seem perfectly normal, nice, gentle people. but the way they were behaving there, i'm sorry, but the energy there, i'm sorry, but the energy there was not one of warmth in particular towards you, patrick. yeah. >> i mean, look to go back a little bit, i was getting increasing angry about the way that were being reported. and i think that the reality >> and i think that the reality of the situation was being deliberately by deliberately misreported by a lot other media outlets lot of other media outlets and a bit switch went off me bit of a switch went off for me around armistice day and remembrance sunday. >> i thought, look, just >> and i thought, look, i'm just going and get in going to go and try and get in amongst them amongst it and just ask them very questions and anyone very basic questions and anyone can any the can have a look at any of the clips that put out and that clips that i've put out and that we've recorded a march on we've recorded from a march on wednesday, march on thursday wednesday, a march on thursday as well. the questions are literally, why are you here? i think once i asked someone , what think once i asked someone, what does free palestine really mean ?
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does free palestine really mean? because i think for a lot of people it actually means the eradication of israel. >> so that's the kind thing >> so that's the kind of thing i was out there and you was getting out there and you just getting shouted just end up getting shouted down, hounded. >> and the mob mentality is absolutely >> and the mob mentality is absolute thinks is normal anybody thinks this is normal behaviour, would question behaviour, then i would question in what version of normality they really talking about here. i just wanted to see what my presence would do. there to them and try to expose , you know, and try to expose, you know, this is this is not normal behaviour. that level of anger , behaviour. that level of anger, that level of vitriol, the inability me to answer any questions, the wanting to stifle the free press, the threats of physical violence, and certainly the verbal aggression that i felt. bear in mind, they're outside an mps office there yesterday because didn't yesterday because she didn't vote in favour ceasefire vote in favour of a ceasefire which obviously she has no real control of. >> no. so it's just absurd that even that they would even consider she did. consider that she did. >> so we've got potential >> so we've got the potential intimidation there that intimidation of mps there that was on the day where children were out school go were taken out of school to go and march . and march. >> actually went out today as >> i actually went out today as well at some of well to have a look at some of the school strikes well to have a look at some of
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the are school strikes well to have a look at some of the are takingchool strikes well to have a look at some of the are taking place.;trikes that are taking place. >> glad you talked about the schools. >> yeah, so i'm going to be doing a that on my show doing a bit on that on my show tonight, nine till 11 pm. and we've that because we've got a bit on that because the pupils in ilford so an area around london in glasgow and other parts of the uk were out taken out of school today by their parents. >> you know, we've seen children as young like four and five as young as like four and five years these and years old at these things. and some make the point, some people make the point, well, i was child well, look, when i was a child in starting, in the iraq war was starting, i was against that and wasn't was against that and i wasn't wrong i understand wrong then, and i can understand that. but i feel as though this is slightly different. i'm always very uncomfortable about parents placards and parents putting placards and flags in young children's hands and chanting things on the street. i find that uncomfortable. so i just wanted to try to hold a mirror up to what is actually happening on the streets at the minute because it is not all peaceful. and an and this isn't just an undercurrent of people here, you know, is a concerted group . know, that is a concerted group. everywhere i've gone, the overwhelming majority of people have been very quick to behave abnormally towards us. free
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press or not wanting to answer any questions. i think that is something that you just don't see anywhere else. well a lot of them would you believe that them would have you believe that it's peaceful. them would have you believe that it's but peaceful. them would have you believe that it's but think aaceful. them would have you believe that it's but think suella. them would have you believe that it's but think suella was >> but i think suella was absolutely that these absolutely right that these do feel with absolutely right that these do feel now, with absolutely right that these do feel now, just with absolutely right that these do feel now, just as with absolutely right that these do feel now, just as mentioned, hate now, just as you mentioned, the my daughter , she the schools, my daughter, she said no way said to me that there is no way that could dare say that that she could dare say that she would support and i can't even say that she does or she doesn't , her own , just in case for her own safety she would support safety that she would support israel or that she felt that, you know, it's up to israel to decide deal this, decide how to deal with this, because she said that everybody literally the children literally all of the children there pro—palestine an and there are pro—palestine an and this is these are 14,15 year this is these are 14, 15 year olds. and she would not dare because she'd be frightened of what might her. what might happen to her. >> and is exactly i'm >> and this is exactly what i'm trying light on this trying to shine a light on this evening, what is the evening, which is what is the future of this country like future of this country be like if you have a lot of these people are very, very uneducated about situation over there, about the situation over there, especially children . and especially the children. and going forward , what is the going forward, what is the future of this country like if a terrorist organisation like hamas can commit an atrocity
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like they did for and people to ignore that or to not think beyond the slogans and this is a big thing for me, it's all very well and good just shouting free palestine or shouting ceasefire. that's that's fine. i get that. but you should also be able to answer . okay, well, what would answer. okay, well, what would a free palestine look like? what are your actual views about israel as well? and crucially as well the jews? >> because that's where it comes in. >> it's not just about the state of israel, let's be honest and. and what would a ceasefire mean in terms rearming? in terms of hamas rearming? and then are unable to then but they are unable to answer questions like that. a lot of these people and that's that's something think people that's something i think people should ithink that's something i think people should i think they should also >> and i think they should also consider israel consider that actually israel would had they would look like gaza had they not dome not created the iron dome because been receiving because they have been receiving missiles well before missiles from gaza well before all of this. yeah. >> 100. so look, i'm >> yeah, 100. 100. so look, i'm just going i'm going to keep doing this because, like, i said, i don't think we're getting on other media getting this on other media outlets. to outlets. and i just want to push back quickly. you back again very quickly. you know, i that i've know, this idea that i that i've gone there and my presence alone has of hate. the
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gone there and my presence alone has majority of hate. the gone there and my presence alone has majority of of hate. the gone there and my presence alone has majority of peopleiate. the gone there and my presence alone has majority of people there he vast majority of people there had no idea who i was. they had no what channel was no idea what channel i was working just didn't working for. they just didn't like in like a journalist being in amongst that was that's amongst it. and that was that's the problem. >> well, patrick look >> well, patrick christys look forward show. thank is forward to a show. thank you. is it 911. it on? you're not on 911. >> i'm tonight. i'm on >> i'm on tonight. i'm on tonight. yes. nine till 11. >> cheers. you. care, >> cheers. thank you. take care, patrick sure you patrick christys. make sure you tune at nine. right tune in tonight at nine. right so on. just coming up to so moving on. just coming up to 50 minutes 3:00, dangerous 50 minutes after 3:00, dangerous prisoners with. prisoners will will with. will with. can't even read now with with. i can't even read now with severe court order restrictions have been mismanaged by an oxford job centre putting the pubuc oxford job centre putting the public at risk. a whistleblower has told gb news charlie peters has told gb news charlie peters has this exclusive report . has this exclusive report. >> could we be working with convicted murderers, rapists and sex groomers? is it possible that paedophiles released from prison can be given internet enabled devices ? gb news has enabled devices? gb news has heard allegations from a former civil servant at the department for work and pensions that a system in job centres designed to help former prisoners get back into work is not only
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flawed , but putting the public flawed, but putting the public and even victims of their crimes at risk . i met with and even victims of their crimes at risk. i met with mark and even victims of their crimes at risk . i met with mark not and even victims of their crimes at risk. i met with mark not his real name, who joined the oxford job centre in april 2021 and took on responsibility for handung took on responsibility for handling ex prisoners as there was absolutely no support, no handoven was absolutely no support, no handover, no specialist training. >> i would be supporting sexual offenders as violent offenders. stranger rapists. when working with ex—prisoners , dwp civil with ex—prisoners, dwp civil servants should process intelligence called multiple agency public protection arrangements or mappa that detail their restrictions in work and training. >> mark alleged that this information was often missing. i later learned of a universal credit claimant i was interviewing, he had mappa conditions due to the fact he was a sexual offender. >> but there was no map intelligence safeguarding intelligence or safeguarding measures pinned digital measures pinned to his digital account . i contacted the mappa
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account. i contacted the mappa lead for the office and response that i got back was if we don't have the map intelligence from the national probation service , the national probation service, we do not chase it. that is not ourjob. and at that point i realised we have a huge problem . realised we have a huge problem. >> mark also claimed that there were problems in storing and reviewing information about ex—prisoners . ex—prisoners. >> all the physical mappa documentation is stored under lock and key in a cabinet. but when i first accessed that folder , i was absolutely folder, i was absolutely appalled. clearly hadn't been reviewed for over ten years. there was over 20 mappa documents in that folder where court order restriction had expired years prior to me accessing that folder after an incident where a convicted paedophile was allegedly given a smartphone against his restrictions. >> mark notified the office that they had a big problem. >> did we have sexual offenders, stranger rapists, applying for work, applying for training opportunities that still had mappa restrictions in place, court order restrictions . we
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court order restrictions. we just didn't know. it was impossible to ascertain a senior manager wrote back to say you have identify died a massive risk for both. >> this case and wider. but mark alleged that nothing was done . alleged that nothing was done. no safeguarding measures were put in place and more incidents occurred . gb news has heard occurred. gb news has heard compelling testimony about other incidents where the dwp allegedly failed to observe restrictions applied to ex—prisoners . restrictions applied to ex—prisoners. in one case, restrictions applied to ex—prisoners . in one case, the ex—prisoners. in one case, the oxford jobcentre offered work to a notorious paedophile . he had a notorious paedophile. he had already been given a laptop with internet access . this man, who internet access. this man, who we cannot name for legal reasons, preyed on vulnerable young girls in one of britain's worst grooming gang scandals . worst grooming gang scandals. mark said that he kept reporting these alleged failures but was not listened . to not listened. to >> my caseload was a minefield , >> my caseload was a minefield, an absolute minefield. i had no support in this matter, no one
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was taking it seriously . was taking it seriously. >> with the strain of working with ex—prisoners and what he said was a failure to react to his concerns as mark had a total breakdown and has been hospitalised regularly since. >> you lose composure , azure and >> you lose composure, azure and rationality . my role was my tool rationality. my role was my tool to keep people safe . you take to keep people safe. you take the role away, you still have the role away, you still have the concerns and the public is still at risk. but you can't do anything about it . you've been anything about it. you've been silenced by the very people that are supposed to be supporting you . you. >> well , of course, that was >> well, of course, that was charlie peters in response , the charlie peters in response, the department of work and pensions insists that former convicts are monitored in the workplace, and they promised to investigate. now, the statement says that we take all staff concerns very seriously and are committed to investigating any issues that are raised. documents held by oxford jobcentre on customers with restrictions are up to date and regularly reviewed training is provided for. jobcentre staff
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nationwide and we continue to work closely with thames valley probation service and others so that we have the necessary detail on applicants, personal circumstances as well. joining me now is gb news investigates reporter charlie peters . reporter charlie peters. charlie, how widespread is this problem? well, we just don't know. >> and it's one of the many questions i think still hanging over these allegations. and this exposure today about these very serious claims that that dangerous ex prisoners who have these public protection arrangements because they're either violent or sexual offenders or both, let's not forget, could be given work and training opportunities and devices because are restrictions just aren't being applied. now, we've heard very credible allegations from the oxford job centre, backed up by evidence and compelling testimony about what's going on there. and we've heard from multiple whistleblower is in that location and but the job centre and the dwp are standing by thames valley police and the pubuc thames valley police and the public protection unit there because this is a multi—agency
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situation. they rely on the probation service, the prison service, the police and the dwp to all come together to make sure that when a prisoner with these restrictions leaves and returns to society , they are returns to society, they are managed fairly and effectively and safely for the public. but failing in oxford, the question that gb news is posing to the dwp is , is this happening dwp is, is this happening elsewhere? when we put it to them, they didn't answer that question in their statement and we have heard from other whistleblowers in the region around that this around oxfordshire that this concern is growing others concern is growing and others are sharing these fears. >> well , listen, charlie, are sharing these fears. >> well, listen, charlie, thank you for that. well, we'll keep an report because an eye on that report because i'd to hear more about that i'd love to hear more about that if you've just joined me. welcome you're welcome on board. you're watching welcome on board. you're watchi there's more to come news. there's loads more to come in a moment
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but worth it? and but is that really worth it? and is this back to technology? is this not back to technology? we'll be discussing that. plus we looked at this labour's gaza division are we seeing a real problem within the labour party that suggests that anti—semitism is still there? we'll be looking into that. and finally, of course, the pothole as they continue whole load of cash to fix the bad roads. but as i'm thinking about pylons, i'm also thinking about pylons, i'm also thinking about pylons, i'm also thinking about electric cars which are heavier . so investing which are heavier. so investing in fixing bad roads whilst it needs to be done, i think the problem is just going to get worse. talking about worse. we'll be talking about that. of your that. remember some of your thoughts. gb views gbnews.com or tweet gb news. but first, tweet us at gb news. but first, let's get your latest news headunes. headlines. >> 4:02. >> 4:02. >> good afternoon to you, aaron armstrong here in the gb newsroom. >> the prime minister says he's determined to get his plan to deport asylum seekers to rwanda through as quickly as possible, despite that opposition, the prime minister rescue the rwanda
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plan. >> mrs. braverman well, it comes after the former home secretary said his attempts will fail unless he opt out of the european convention on human rights. >> suella braverman, who was sacked this week, says the proposed new treaty and legislation are simply a tweaked version the failed plan. version of the failed plan. >> a she warned rishi sunak proposal will get bogged down in the courts, but he says he'll take on anyone standing in his way. >> we've got to get the rwanda plan up and running. i will do whatever takes to make that whatever it takes to make that happen. people are sick of this merry go round. want end happen. people are sick of this memy go round. want end happen. people are sick of this memy patience. want end happen. people are sick of this memy patience is want end happen. people are sick of this me my patience is wearing end happen. people are sick of this me my patience is wearing thin it. my patience is wearing thin like is. that's like everyone else is. that's why our emergency legislation will make it crystal clear that rwanda is safe for these purposes. it meets all the concerns that people have raised because of our new arrangement with and we stop with them. and we want to stop any more challenges to any more domestic challenges to this program. and i've also been clear that we won't let a foreign court stand in the way of us getting flight to off rwanda. >> well, the labour leader is refusing to calls for refusing to back calls for a ceasefire gaza , claiming his
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ceasefire in gaza, claiming his party remains united despite this week's rebellion on a visit to a gas terminal in aberdeen, sir keir starmer indicated his position proves he's the right person to be the prime minister. >> however, gb news understands there's within the party there's concern within the party of a growing rift between sir keir the scottish labour keir and the scottish labour leader anas sarwar. keir and the scottish labour leader anas sarwar . as msps look leader anas sarwar. as msps look likely to back an amendment in holyrood next week calling for a ceasefire, the labour leader says his focus is on the release of hostages and the plight of civilians alleviating the suffering and a two state solution and making sure we get there. >> there is complete unity in the labour party . three hostages the labour party. three hostages are being held as we have this conversation, as people are dying in gaza, as we have this conversation , i'm sure you will conversation, i'm sure you will understand that my focus is on how we alleviate that situation, not questions of labour party management to 12 year old boys have been remanded in custody at birmingham magistrates court charged with murder and possessing a machete. >> they're accused of killing 19
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year old sean c zahawi, who was attacked in wolverhampton on monday night and died at the scene . they'll appear in court scene. they'll appear in court again on monday. scene. they'll appear in court again on monday . a man who again on monday. a man who murdered a school teacher in ireland has been jailed for life. the 23 year old ashlin murphy was killed while exercising on a canal path in tullamore in january last year. 33 year old joseph puskar had denied the murder, but was convicted by a jury last week . convicted by a jury last week. outside court, police, who described the case as a monstrous crime, praised the victim's family for showing courage and dignity during the trial . retail sales have trial. retail sales have unexpectedly fallen , dropping to unexpectedly fallen, dropping to their lowest level since the pandemic . the office for pandemic. the office for national statistics says retail sales volumes dipped o.3% national statistics says retail sales volumes dipped 0.3% last month. analysts had expected a rise. retailers have blamed the cost of living crisis and reduced footfall and the wet . reduced footfall and the wet. weather. £8.3 billion has been promised to fix what the prime minister has described as the
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scourge of potholes. funding scourge of potholes. the funding for road maintenance in england will be available to local authorities the next authorities over the next decade. now the money was saved by scrapping the hs2 rail line north of birmingham . british gas north of birmingham. british gas is hiring hundreds of new staff. the energy giant says they'll work at contact centres across the uk to help customers struggling with their bills around 700 new jobs are being created by the end of the year. rat infested bedford prison has been issued with an urgent nofice been issued with an urgent notice to improve . inspectors notice to improve. inspectors found inmates are being held in mouldy cells with broken windows for up to 23 hours a day. levels of violence against staff in the last month were also the highest of any adult male prison in the country and recorded self—harm is the third highest rate it is the fifth jail to be given an urgent notice in the past 12 months . and the english premier months. and the english premier league football club everton has had ten points deducted for
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breaches of profit and sustainable sustainability rules. financial fair play following a five day hearing last month, the commission found everton's losses during the 20 2122 season amounted to . £124.5 2122 season amounted to. £1245 million, almost 20 million more than the allowed limit . the than the allowed limit. the penalty leaves them on four points and also leaves them in the relegation zone. the club, though, says it will appeal the decision . well, we are live for decision. well, we are live for you on tv, on digital radio and if you want us on your smart speaken if you want us on your smart speaker, just say play gb news. now back to nana . now back to nana. >> good afternoon. just coming up to six minutes after 4:00. this is gb news. we are the people's channel. i'm nana akua and in the week that rishi sunak vowed to get his rwanda scheme back on track, gb news can reveal that around 1000 people have crossed in small boats in recent days . even his own former
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recent days. even his own former home secretary, suella braverman , has doubted his ability to deliver on his key pledge of stopping the boats, claiming that tinkering with a failed plan is not going to work. our home and security editor mark white is in dover. so, mark, give us an update on the situation over a thousand crossed just over the last few days. >> yeah, it's quite remarkable to think we're well into november . and when we get november. and when we get reasonable days in the channel then we'll get significant numbers of these small boat arrivals. we had 615 at the beginning of the week when we had a good day and then yesterday another good day in the channel in which there were very light winds and we had almost 400 more boats coming across, 400 people in seven boats that came in across yesterday. and this evening. again, we're told that there
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will be more migrants coming . will be more migrants coming. they've been waiting for the evening tide and for it to get dark to give them a better chance of getting it into the water before the french authorities can intercept them. and once of course, these boats are in the water, then the french don't go near them . they french don't go near them. they just escort them from a few hundred metres away. and once they get to the uk waters halfway across the channel then they're picked up by the border force or lifeboat boats, depending on the time of day and where they are spotted in uk waters . so we don't know how waters. so we don't know how many will come tonight, but we're expecting a few will try to make it because it's a sort of rapidly closing weather window by tomorrow , the weather window by tomorrow, the weather will worsen in the channel again andifs will worsen in the channel again and it's going to be like that for quite a while. so they make the most of these calm days when they get them to try to get across . and i think, you know, across. and i think, you know, if we see nana some reasonably
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good days in the remainder of november after this latest atlantic spell has passed and even into december, we could have a few thousand more days on top of the almost 28,000 who've crossed this year already. so a significant number down on where we were at this point last year by about a third. but that is really those we speak to that watch the channel regularly say they believe that's down more to they believe that's down more to the unpredictable weather out in the unpredictable weather out in the channel rather than any government policy rishi was trying to claim that it was some sort of success, but in reality it would appear that the weather has pretty much the main reason why these people haven't come across . across. >> so look, the people who are around these coastal areas, living around these areas do you get a sense that they have any faith that the government will
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be able to stop the boats ? be able to stop the boats? >> no, not really. they don't have an awful lot of faith . they have an awful lot of faith. they are many of them hoping that eventually the rwanda scheme can go through. so at least it could be tried to see if that will make a difference . to be fair to make a difference. to be fair to rishi sunak, there is one element of his policy i think, that has led to a reduction in the numbers coming across and that agreement with with that is the agreement with with albania . so that agreement with albania. so that agreement with albania. so that agreement with albania has led to a 90% reduction in those coming from albania because it is a quick return scheme. the albanian government have agreed to take them. those people back . so that them. those people back. so that has led to a bit of a reduction. but in terms of other aspects of his scheme, such as paying the french more money to go and puncture these boats and stop them leaving the first place. well, all that does is really just delays the journey that
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they will eventually make over to the uk because the french police , when they puncture these police, when they puncture these boats, then the migrants on board just scatter into the dunes. they regroup , they get on dunes. they regroup, they get on board another small boat in the days after that. so it doesn't stop it. these people aren't then returned to their home. countries are still there , countries are still there, hanging about in northwestern france, waiting for their next opportunity to get across nana. >> well, mark, thank you very much. that's mark white. he's our home and security editor. he's there live in dover. thank you much . well, now, downing you so much. well, now, downing street has not ruled out the prospect of mps debating an emergency law over christmas to tackle channel crossings. racist sunak has promised to take on whoever is standing in the way of the rwanda plan. but it's not just suella braverman who's taken swipe at rishi sunak taken a swipe at rishi sunak over his plan. so keir starmer says that the prime minister should expensive should stop pursuing expensive gimmicks. well, former sky
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political correspondent peter spencer joins me now. political correspondent peter spencerjoins me now. peter, thank you so much for joining me. look, rishi sunak , this me. look, rishi sunak, this seems to be the only plan that he has. apparently, there's a plan b of tinkering around is suella braverman. right? that there's no point tinkering around with this legislation , around with this legislation, even though to be fair to rishi, i'm sure that this was composed whilst she was home secretary . whilst she was home secretary. >> well, of course suella braverman has got her own plan, alternative plan b, which involves yet more tinkering around. >> and i have to say that i look at the detail and i think i wonder if i myself wondering exactly how many angels can dance on the edge needle. dance on the edge of a needle. >> mean, the reality is, most >> i mean, the reality is, most informed analysis informed comment analysis suggests that rishi sunak cannot make any of this stuff happen on this side of the election . this side of the election. >> and if the labour party loses it, they're going to. >> it's dead in the water anyway. >> so at this stage i would suggest that rishi sunak is not really getting anywhere at all
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or and in fact, it must be incredibly frustrating for him when you think that this, this, this is looking most certainly like a policy failure, whereas only this week we have heard that that the cost, that inflation has at last halved . inflation has at last halved. >> that is a huge triumph . why >> that is a huge triumph. why are we not talking about it? because we're talking about this. whose fault is that? the government's for talking the issue first place. issue up in the first place. >> also , we suspected that >> well, also, we suspected that inflation would halve in that time anyway. it's i will give time anyway. so it's i will give him credit credit's due , him credit where credit's due, because gone up, because if it had gone up, we'd because if it had gone up, we'd be enough. be blaming him. so fair enough. but ultimately and this is the thing that suella braverman posed in the posed in her piece in the telegraph, where the telegraph, where does the ultimate authority lie for deciding whether someone stays or goes? because is it the british people in our elected mps or is it the sort of and she called it the vague shifting, unaccountable international law , unaccountable international law, because that is ultimately the problem, isn't it? well i mean, we are tied into a several
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different international treaties and so it's rather hard to just extract ourselves from them here and now. >> and, of course, you've got to remember that that the immediate halt came from this. most halt came from this. the most senior judges in the halt came from this. the most seniorjudges in the land . and seniorjudges in the land. and if we get to a point where the government says, right, the senior judges in the government says, right, the seniorjudges in the land can do one, well then we're moving out of democracy into a kind of dodgy autocracy to be perfectly honest. and so he's he is no doubt about it. sunak is in a cleft stick , but i do come back cleft stick, but i do come back to it. the cost of living matters to everyone. this subject matters to some people, matters to some people really an awful lot . but in the scheme of awful lot. but in the scheme of things, it's not like the cost of living, which is a crisis. >> well, you say that, but they're all interlinked, aren't they? because of course we're paying. is it 8 million a day for people to be housed in hotels and migrant centres and etcetera , etcetera? we're paying etcetera, etcetera? we're paying a lot of money and that has a
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direct effect on how the money is spent for the british public. so we're paying for this. so i would say that that that isn't quite true and i think a lot of people are very concerned. >> well, look, i mean , you are >> well, look, i mean, you are right. are paying through the right. we are paying through the nose for all this. whose nose for all this. but whose fault it's the fault fault is that? it's the fault of the home office . you can process the home office. you can process these applications in a matter of weeks as it is. these applications in a matter of weeks as it is . there are so of weeks as it is. there are so many them now have been many of them now who have been waiting a year that waiting around for a year that they're actually giving them work them off work permit to get them off their is which is, their backs, which is which is, to my mind, is a signal of absolute failure on the part of absolute failure on the part of a major government department. now, it always was the ministry for things that go wrong, but they've done it spectacularly this time round. >> well, it was just the point you made that only a small amount people about amount of people care about it and the of moved and the sort of you moved to on the of living. was just the cost of living. i was just pointing that lots of people pointing out that lots of people care because paying care for it because we're paying for all sick to our for it and we're all sick to our back of i don't back teeth of it. and i don't understand what is wrong with rwanda anyway. i'm sure it's part commonwealth,
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part of the commonwealth, isn't it? problem? it? i mean, what's the problem? but probably talk but anyway, we'll probably talk tomorrow. peter, always a pleasure. thank you very much. that's thank you that's peter spencer. thank you very thank bye. very much. thank you. bye bye. all right. now my dear friend all right. so now my dear friend gary lineker. yep, he could be set to extend his stay with the bbc after several reports suggested that they have begun discussing a new contract with him. gary has hosted bbc's match of the day since 1999, but has been criticised over the last decade for voicing his political beliefs , both in the media and beliefs, both in the media and online. gary lineker's current contract is worth over 1.35 million. most people would be happy with just 10% of that. actually 5% of it would probably be quite good. but that expires when the bbc's own premier league rights deal runs out at the end of next season. so joining me now for the latest on this is sports broadcaster chris scott. chris, welcome on board. now, look, they're discussing his contract . does that mean his contract. does that mean that they are potentially going to pay him more? i mean , is that
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to pay him more? i mean, is that what is that what we're hearing? is that where is going ? where this is going? >> not about more . i mean, he >> not about more. i mean, he took a pay cut in the a couple of years ago to keep himself in the loop , if you like. remember, the loop, if you like. remember, we had this conversation about eight months ago when it all kicked off over the comments that that brought this whole thing to light a couple of a couple of reasons, really. >> i think why he's still in the picture. >> you saw what happened last time and people thought or you thought, didn't you nana that it was the end of the line for lineker? >> and i said i hoped i bet you anything. i bet you anything this blows over. >> and a week they had an >> and within a week they had an empty the day empty chair for match of the day and lot of punters at home and a lot of punters at home thought, don't need thought, great, we don't need a presenter. but within days he was back in the seat because they value him clearly he and he's also, i suppose, ticked the boxes now over the independent panel review , which came out,
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panel review, which came out, what, about six weeks ago . bit what, about six weeks ago. bit woolly if you ask me about, you know, what you can't criticise individuals or parties, but and if you're a non sports journalist that he's been vindicated you can say what he wants over over policy but not individuals. so it all seems pretty woolly to be honest. but you know when push comes to shove he's the best man for the job. i think the bbc know that and he's going to get a new contract to be amazed if it doesn't happen. >> well, but when he wasn't presenting more presenting it, it got more viewers. first thing. viewers. that's the first thing. and did really? and secondly, did it really? >> yeah. >> em.- >> but apparently so. but also the second thing is that we the licence fee payers are paying for this 1.35 million and i think there's a case for that salary to be considered ably reduced to, you know , he's only reduced to, you know, he's only doing one show a week. why on earth are the british taxpayers paying earth are the british taxpayers paying 1.35 million in the form of a licence fee which ultimately is a tax? because if
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you don't pay it, you end up in jail? are we paying jail? why are we paying a portion of that massive salary for somebody who only literally does a week? it's absurd i >> -- >> it's a good point. i mean, don't there's don't forget also that there's going the champions going to be the champions league. it's not just the premier league. i mean, lineker's gone on record as saying himself that will saying himself that it will depend premier get depend if the premier league get the next contract. for highlights. now i understand that there's not a queue of broadcasters wanting to show highlights . broadcasters wanting to show highlights. there's reasons for that because on a saturday night you can go online, on youtube, various other places , and you various other places, and you can see goals, highlights. so so yeah, you're right. i mean, we why pay £1.35 million for something which you can find elsewhere ? the reason for that elsewhere? the reason for that is that it's his analysis is that you can't get anywhere else which is valued. so him and shearer and ian wright, that kind of thing. shearer and ian wright, that kind of thing . but you're right. kind of thing. but you're right. i mean, a lot of people are saying, well, when matchday was on presenter , on and there was no presenter, we actually liked it more. i'm not everyone would agree not sure everyone would agree with it's, know,
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with that, but it's, you know, it's point . so a lot of it's a valid point. so a lot of money he's the highest money he's he's the highest paid presenter by some presenter at the beeb by some distance but the fact that champions league football is now going to be shown highlight going to be shown in highlight form bbc, i think it's form from the bbc, i think it's the end of next season and that will run through for, for, for several years plus the extension of premier league contract, of the premier league contract, which through 2029. which will go through to 2029. i understand it. you that's understand it. you know, that's that's why i think they they feel they need him because he is the kind of the ringmaster of that analysis which the bbc value. you know, most people just i don't chris i just don't buy it. >> i think there's plenty of other great broadcasters who could probably who haven't been given an opportunity because people him just people like him are just standing constantly people like him are just standin1.35 constantly people like him are just standin1.35 million constantly people like him are just standin1.35 million who stantly people like him are just standin1.35 million who could on this 1.35 million who could do job for fraction do a better job for a fraction of the money and i think that actually the british people should speak. what if the british people said, no, we don't we vote don't want to pay, we can vote with our can't they? don't want to pay, we can vote with our vote can't they? don't want to pay, we can vote with our vote witht they? don't want to pay, we can vote with our vote with their'? don't want to pay, we can vote with our vote with their feet, >> they vote with their feet, not watch you know, not watch it. you know, the figures you vote with your feet,
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>> but you vote with your feet, but you've to pay for but you've still got to pay for this thing . do you what this thing. do you know what i mean? vote with their mean? people vote with their feet and don't watch it, but you'll be paid point you'll still be paid one point something million and i genuinely conversation. >> who sets the price. >> really. you know, it is high. you're right. it is too much. i agree with but you agree with that. but but you know is a legend of his know that he is a legend of his sport and, you know, he's a patriot as well. and you know, some people like to hear him, but others think, you know, that they could do without the punst they could do without the pundits at all. and, you know, as as i don't remember the figures of the of the blank match today, but it was it was a fascinating watch 20 minutes of just which you can get on just goals which you can get on a saturday night. if you look around you can find it, you know. know, the beeb know. but you know, the beeb because feel that lineker because they feel that lineker is the tick the boxes now over impartiality with you know you can if you're a non what were the words. >> well if you on issues and policies include including matters of political contention on outside of journalism .
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on outside of journalism. >> um yeah to me it's two weeks either side as well it's very woolly and then the word woolly. yeah >> and it's something like you can only do it two weeks either side of your program as well by the side but it the side of. but you do it anyway. and then he cleverly sort around it by sort of got around it by not making his statements a question rather than it just rather than it was just basically you just basically you can just get around and do around it very easily and do exactly same thing. chris exactly the same thing. chris it's a pleasure. >> want to keep him >> clearly want to keep him nana. clearly keep nana. they clearly want to keep him. and it's going to him. you know, and it's going to it's come pass . and it's going to come to pass. and they've lot of football they've got a lot of football highlights to show. lots of people watch people don't want to watch highlights, all the highlights, but the it's all the bbc got. they've got live bbc got. they've got no live rights from euros and rights apart from the euros and the know, the world cups. you know, there's there's no there's there's less there's no there's no live stuff. so there's less there's no there's no beeb live stuff. so there's less there's no there's no beeb have live stuff. so there's less there's no there's no beeb have to live stuff. so there's less there's no there's no beeb have to feeds stuff. so there's less there's no there's no beeb have to feed on uff. so there's less there's no there's no beeb have to feed on that.) the beeb have to feed on that. and that's why and you know, that's why they what want him is what they want from him is analysis and all his mates that come with that . that's what they come with that. that's what they want. >> all right, chris, thank you so much. always a pleasure. that's chris skudder. he is a sports right. sports broadcaster. all right. coming to 23 minutes after coming up to 23 minutes after 4:00, this is gb news. coming up, reports suggest that the
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chancellor could be giving households a £1,000 off their energy bills. but there's one condition. households must allow new pylons to be built in the area. i'm nana akua . this is gb area. i'm nana akua. this is gb news britain's news channel
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6:00. this is a story that i thought i just had to cover because i just can't bear the thought that an ugly pylon could be anywhere near me. but chancellor jeremy be anywhere near me. but chancellorjeremy hunt is chancellor jeremy hunt is expected to give households £1,000 their energy bills £1,000 off their energy bills a yeah £1,000 off their energy bills a year. in exchange for allowing new pylons to be built in their area. i mean, would you be convinced by that local communities will also receive additional funding for projects such as new roads and health facilities part of the facilities as part of the government's attempts to woo them over? however, some campaigners have criticised the plan, saying that any help with energy bills should be on energy bills should be based on geography. get a reaction geography. let's get a reaction now . a physicist and engineer, now. a physicist and engineer, bnan now. a physicist and engineer, brian cat . now. a physicist and engineer, brian cat. brian well, now. a physicist and engineer, brian cat. brian well , the cat brian cat. brian well, the cat is back. brian talk to me about these pylons. first of all, they're ugly . and frankly, are they're ugly. and frankly, are they're ugly. and frankly, are they really be the answer to sort of our electric city supply needs ? well, look , long term, it needs? well, look, long term, it depends what these are for. >> if they are to enable the
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racket that is renewable energy to monetise itself, then absolutely not. it's a waste of time because renewables are dead as soon as the nuclear power gets built to replace them, you don't need them anymore. if it's to fatten up the grid for the next hundred years worth of electric location, which is going to be a factor of maybe three. so build more pylons along the existing core networks to build, fatten up the network. if the existing network, that's fine. so there is two very different things going on here. >> so my problem with these are i've heard of health problems because of them being built near you and things like that. is that all nonsense? yes. >> well, there's certainly no evidence to support the idea . evidence to support the idea. it's probably i mean, you wouldn't want to live underneath a power line, but there's been study after study after study. it's one of these kind of marginal things that people say, well, really know well, how do you really know it's like low level radiation, which, you know, people live in
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20 level radiation 20 times the level of radiation we live in without any problem. yet told that's dangerous. yet we're told that's dangerous. when quote, nuclear when there's a quote, nuclear accident, it is airy fairy on the edge of things. but basically , if you've got a right basically, if you've got a right of way , these things are all of way, these things are all about rights of way by the way, if you've got rights of way in place the existing grid, place to run the existing grid, why just fatten up the why not just fatten up the existing grid? you need existing grid? why do you need to people to do that? even to pay people to do that? even in fine as the in and that's all fine as the additional energy as we do need. if petrol does run out, we'll need to have electric cars one day, but not now. so we'll need twice the grid . how are we going twice the grid. how are we going to do that ? not underground. to do that? not underground. that's for sure. >> well, why? why can't they go underground in other countries, for example, places where there they have earthquakes and things like that. most of the stuff's done underground. why is that not the case? it's not. it's not. >> it's very expensive to put stuff underground because in order to if you want to transmit a lot of power, the only way to do it is to have a very, very
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high voltage. so the current is reasonably small because current times voltage is power. so you need high voltage if you try putting under the putting high voltage under the ground, contact ground, you know, in contact with or have to keep it away with or you have to keep it away from the sea is even the from under the sea is even the bigger because it's, you biggerjoke because it's, you know, right next to water. so you have to put in incredibly expensive surroundings to protect voltage , to stop the protect the voltage, to stop the voltage arcing through voltage from arcing through to the it's much easier the ground. and it's much easier to hang it up the sky and to hang it up in the sky and much cheaper. >> but who would want one of these things their home? these things near their home? most people would say, no, they wouldn't. they they've got one already. >> okay. so if you've got one already and it's there, that's why say, well, why is there a problem with that? you've just got you don't think you can hang more cables on the existing pylons. they have the pylons. they might have the choice actually replacing choice of actually replacing except there would be discontinuity of service. they might chance of might have the chance of replacing the existing pylons with bigger pylons. but then you'd have to work around that. you'd need to get the power around that. >> you see what i'm getting at
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there? >> well, yeah, but. >> well, yeah, but. >> but brian, they're talking about not agreeing to do this , about not agreeing to do this, you getting money off your bill. so presuming they're so i'm presuming that they're going some new routes. going to find some new routes. yes. these pylons are going yes. and these pylons are going to around country to be routed around this country elsewhere or not necessarily alongside the current. yeah i suspect what's going on here is they're trying what they're really talking about isn't the main core grid at all, which we need to bolster up and we need to put new nuclear power stations on to replace the old coal ones and the old nuclear ones. >> what they're talking about is monetising these windfarm, these offshore wind farms. they've just agreed to what they've been blackmailed . the cheap wind blackmailed. the cheap wind power that we were supposed to be getting. they've just realised the wind farms won't bid for it anymore because when they're told that they have to supply it at the prices that they were going to, they claim they were going to, they claim they were going to, they to do it anymore they don't want to do it anymore . they want £179 per megawatt houn . they want £179 per megawatt hour, which is a ridiculous amount for money floating amount of for money floating wind farms. i mean, what could possibly go wrong those,
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possibly go wrong with those, you know? possibly go wrong with those, youwell,'? >> well, yes. >> well, yes. >> need emm- >> well, yes. >> need a grid when >> and they'll need a grid when they when they get to the shore, that's when they'll need a grid connection. because connection. okay. but because they have to transfer the electric, have to convert electric, they have to convert the they make and the electricity they make and then across and then transmit it across and connect it up to the main grid, i think that's the grid that they're about . they're talking about. >> presumably you probably >> and presumably you probably can't make a pylon without fossil fuels, i should imagine. is that a yes or no? i mean, can they them with fossil they make them with fossil fuels? need fossil fuels fuels? do they need fossil fuels to make pylons? to make the pylons? >> absolutely . well, the steel >> absolutely. well, the steel has to be made. and you have to use coal, which the stuff use coking coal, which the stuff that you remember up in that was you remember up in cumbria need coal in cumbria, you need that coal in particular to do it. um, the whole thing is complete nonsense in terms of it's all based around the ideology that you need to reduce co2. none of this will reduce in any way the amount of co2. >> well, this is what we thought. brian bryant, always a pleasure. thank you very much. he's a physicist and engineer. well, me. news is well, you're with me. news is coming news understands
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coming up. gb news understands that there could be a big rift brewing between sir keir starmer and the labour. the of and the labour. the leader of the scottish labour party, anas sarwar labour msps appear sarwar as labour msps appear like only to back a ceasefire amendment in holyrood. but first let's get your latest news headunes. headlines. >> hi there it is. 432. i'm aaron armstrong . the prime aaron armstrong. the prime minister says he's determined to get his plan to deport migrants to rwanda through as quickly as possible , despite opposition . possible, despite opposition. >> will the prime minister rescued the rwanda plan. mrs. braverman well, it's after the former home secretary said his attempts will fail unless he opts out of the european convention on human rights. >> suella braverman says the proposed new treaty and legislation are simply a tweaked version plan . an version of a failed plan. an £83 version of a failed plan. an £8.3 billion has been promised to fix what the prime minister has described as the scourge of potholes. the funding for road maintenance in england will be available to local authorities
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over decade and everton over the next decade and everton have been given a ten point deduction for breaching the premier league's profit and sustainability rules. the sustainability rules. it's the biggest penalty the biggest penalty in the competition history and leaves the with points and in the club with four points and in the club with four points and in the relegation zone , everton the relegation zone, everton were to have losses of were found to have losses of £124.5 were found to have losses of £1245 million during the 21 to £124.5 million during the 21 to 22 season. that's almost £20 million more than the allowed limit . everton says it will limit. everton says it will appeal the decision. i'll be back with more at the top of the next hour or you can get more right now on our website, gbnews.com . gbnews.com. >> thank you, aaron. 33 minutes after 4:00. this is gb news time nana akua bring you all the latest until six this evening. now gb news understands there could be a big rift brewing between sir keir starmer and anas sarwar as labour msps appear likely to back a ceasefire amendment in holyrood. now starmer says that his focus remains remain on the release of
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the hostages and the plight of civilians, as he claims his party is still united despite suffering the biggest rebellion of his tenure during the ceasefire. vote on wednesday. conservative mp for banff and buchan . david duguid i hope i buchan. david duguid i hope i said that right, david, i'm sure it's wrong. joins me now. is it do good. how do i say your surname? you're getting closer. >> it's a jacket. >> it's a jacket. >> jacket , jacket. i was never >> jacket, jacket. i was never going to get that stuff. david right. let's let's get stuck into this because is keir starmer this to me looking as an outsider , looks like there is outsider, looks like there is a problem within the labour party of antisemitism that still exists. how serious do you think that this is for the labour party ? party? >> i mean, i wouldn't want to comment on the anti—semitism necessarily, but there's certainly a problem with party discipline and certainly , i discipline and certainly, i mean, there's no mistake that the prime minister and the man that wants to be prime minister are in agreement on this. but the only difference is that the prime minister is not losing
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members of his frontbench left and right over it because , of and right over it because, of course, jess phillips is gone and some very sort of top end mps who've worked very hard are going . going. >> what's your view then? because more than a quarter of the parliamentary labour party voted against a three line whip andifs voted against a three line whip and it's obviously his biggest problem that he's had so far. how do you think he's handled it ? >> again ?- >> aga|n , 7_ >> again , he ? >> again , he clearly hasn't >> again, he clearly hasn't handled it very well at all and we mustn't forget it was actually an snp amendment that was voted for by so many of his party members, parliamentary party members, parliamentary party members, parliamentary party members and the amendment itself. i see it often described as a motion in the press. i've been receiving emails today wondering what the last couple of days, wondering why i personally voted to continue to for the killing of babies and children to continue. and that's just not the case. the amendment was on the king's speech and the
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king's speech itself contained and i can't remember the exact words from his majesty, but it was along the lines of his ministers will continue to promote peace and the security of not just this country, but the wider world, because , i the wider world, because, i mean, at the end of the day, how much power do they have? >> they don't really have any power as to whether there is a ceasefire or not. you can vote and say that you want that, but all that means is all know is all that means is we all know is that israel must disarm and hamas will rearm . that's what i hamas will rearm. that's what i see it does , do see as a ceasefire. it does, do they not? because to me, watching , they not? because to me, watching, i'm thinking, well, do you not realise you don't really watching, i'm thinking, well, do you ranyealise you don't really watching, i'm thinking, well, do you rany controlou don't really watching, i'm thinking, well, do you rany control overin't really watching, i'm thinking, well, do you rany control over that? ally have any control over that? anyway, it's all very well expressed opinion, expressed in your opinion, but you don't they don't have you don't have they don't have any control. >> is you're exactly >> well, this is you're exactly right . and they have even less right. and they have even less control over over these things, over foreign affairs in the scottish parliament, where i believe they are planning to have a on the on a have a debate on the on a similar next week. but similar motion next week. but you're right , similar motion next week. but you're right, asking you're absolutely right, asking asking for a ceasefire or saying there be a ceasefire, we there should be a ceasefire, we
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could to see an could all say we want to see an end the conflict. we nobody end to the conflict. we nobody wants see this conflict wants to see this conflict continue. to ask for continue. but to ask for a ceasefire is effectively asking, as you say, israel to lay down its arms because we know that hamas not hamas will not hamas will not rest until every every israeli, every jew is wiped off the face of the planet. that is their stated objective. so for us, asking for a ceasefire is essentially asking for israel to stop. but nobody's nobody seems to be asking hamas to stop. but and i think israel has to be allowed to defend themselves themselves within the context of international law. and this is what the prime minister and the government more generally and foreign secretaries have been reinforcing with the israelis to do what they need to do, but to stay within international law while they do it. and they have not been targeting these civilians. forget civilians. they mustn't forget hamas are doing everything they can to make sure these civilians are in harm's way. >> it does seem that that is the case. and yet people expect israel to disarm. but i was actually speaking to somebody
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who was a spokesperson for the israeli government , who was a spokesperson for the israeli government, and he was saying that plenty of saying that there are plenty of pauses fighting anyway to pauses in the fighting anyway to allow aid to go in and things like that. irrespective all like that. irrespective of all of . so i suppose we'll see of this. so i suppose we'll see where gets the labour where this gets the labour party. your view, it party. but in your view, does it expose as a chasm within the party and the divisions and in your view, do you think it's something they need to keep their eye because it could their eye on? because it could be putting the be very off putting to the electorate? or does or has sir keir starmer shown himself to be strong respects? strong in some respects? >> , like i said, the man >> well, like i said, the man who wants to be prime minister needs terms of being needs to think in terms of being like a prime minister. but he has his party has to be bringing his party along him and that doesn't along with him and that doesn't really it's really doesn't look like it's the at moment. and the case at the moment. and yeah, i mean, it's not for me to comment on the internal workings of the labour party, but you're absolutely right to say that. well i would suggest that what's happening with the snp in particular is they are proposing, they are trying to make it look like they are the only ones that care about these
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poor people being poor people that are being killed. seen it. i've killed. and i've seen it. i've seen the actual snp politicians on social media accusing those of us who didn't vote for the amendment , for the amendment of amendment, for the amendment of the king's speech as we want the killings to continue . nobody killings to continue. nobody wants killings continue. wants the killings to continue. i anybody i don't believe anybody in any party killings to party wants the killings to continue, but we must allow israel its right to defend itself. >> yeah. yeah it seems so simplistic for them to see it in such a such a way when it really is way more nuanced than that. david duguid thank you very much. i hope i've got that right. david, you're watching and listening to gb news coming up, the prime minister is cracking down on whitehall's work from home habits by making them come into the office for a minimum of three days a week. wonderful all full details when we return. i'm nana akua. this is gb news, britain's news
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sunday mornings from 9.30 on . gb sunday mornings from 9.30 on. gb news just coming up to 44 minutes after 4:00. >> this is gb news. we are the people's channel. i am nana akua. welcome back. if you just tuned in, i'm bringing you all the very latest until 6:00 this evening. now, dangerous ex prisoners will with severe court order restrictions have been mismanaged by an oxford job centre putting the public at risk . a whistleblower has told risk. a whistleblower has told gb news charlie peters has this exclusive report .
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exclusive report. >> could we be working with convicted murderers, rapists and sex groomers? is it possible that paedophiles released from prison can be given internet enabled devices? gb news has heard allegations from a former civil servant at the department for work and pensions that a system in job centres designed to help former prisoners get back into work is not only flawed, but putting the public and even victims of their crimes at risk . i met with mark, not at risk. i met with mark, not his real name , who joined the his real name, who joined the oxford job centre in april 2021 and took on responsibility for handung and took on responsibility for handling ex prisoners as there was absolutely no support, no handoven was absolutely no support, no handover, no specialist training. >> i would be supporting sexual offenders as violent offenders. strange rapists when working with ex—prisoners , dwp, civil with ex—prisoners, dwp, civil servants should process intelligence called multi—agency pubuc intelligence called multi—agency public protection arrangements or mappa that detail their
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restrictions in work and training . training. >> mark alleged that this information was often missing. i later learned of a universal credit claimant i was interviewing who had mappa conditions due to the fact he was a sexual offender. >> but there was no map intelligence or safeguarding measures pinned to his digital account. i contacted the mappa lead for the office and the response that i got back was if we don't have the map intelligence from the national probation service, we do not chase it. that is not our job. chase it. that is not ourjob. and at that point i realised we have a huge problem . have a huge problem. >> mark also claimed that there were problems in storing and reviewing information about ex—prisoners or the physical mappa documentation is stored under lock and key in a cabinet. >> when i first accessed that folder, i was absolutely appalled. clearly hadn't been reviewed for over ten years. there was over 20 mappa documents in that folder where court order restrictions had
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expired years prior to me accessing that folder after an incident where a convicted paedophile was allegedly given a smartphone against his restrictions , mark notified the restrictions, mark notified the office that they had a big problem. >> did we have sexual offenders, stranger rapists , applying for stranger rapists, applying for work, applying for training opportunities that still had mappa restrictions in place? >> court ordered restrictions. we just didn't know it was impossible to ascertain , a impossible to ascertain, a senior manager wrote back to say, you have identified a massive risk for both this case and wider. >> but mark alleged that nothing was done , no safeguarding was done, no safeguarding measures were put in place and more incidents occurred. gb news has heard compelling testimony about other incidents where the dwp allegedly failed to observe, restrict as applied to ex—prisoners . restrict as applied to ex—prisoners. in one case, restrict as applied to ex—prisoners . in one case, the ex—prisoners. in one case, the oxford job centre offered work to a notorious paedophile , while to a notorious paedophile, while he had already been given a laptop with internet access .
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laptop with internet access. this man, who we cannot name for legal reasons, preyed on vulnerable young girls in one of britain's worst grooming gang scandals . britain's worst grooming gang scandals. mark said that he kept reporting these alleged failures but was not listened . to but was not listened. to >> my caseload was a minefield , >> my caseload was a minefield, an absolute minefield. i had no support in this matter, no one was taking it seriously . was taking it seriously. >> with the strain of working with ex prisoners and what he said was a failure to react to his concerns as mark had a total breakdown and has been hospitalised regularly since. >> you lose composure and rationality , my role was my tool rationality, my role was my tool to keep people safe . if you take to keep people safe. if you take the role away, you still have the role away, you still have the concerns and the public are still at risk. but you can't do anything about it . you've been anything about it. you've been silenced by the very people that are supposed to be supporting you . oh was charlie peters you. oh was charlie peters reporting there? >> well, in response, the department of work and pensions insists that former convicts are
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monitored in the workplace and that they promised to investigate . the statement says investigate. the statement says that we take all staff concerns very seriously and are committed to investigating any issues that are raised. documents held by oxford jobcentre on customers with restrictions are up to date and regularly reviewed . training and regularly reviewed. training is provided for jobcentre staff nationwide and we continue to work closely with thames valley probation service and others. so we have the necessary detail on applicants personal circumstances . well civil circumstances. well civil servants now will be required to come into the office for a bare minimum. three days a week. as prime minister targets whitehall, working from home habits. downing street says that rishi sunak believes in the importance of face to face working and wants to make use of whitehall office space. meanwhile, the chancellor is said to be considering slashing inheritance tax after under mounting pressure from right wing tory mps . economists
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wing tory mps. economists estimate that jeremy hunt could have more than £10 billion to play have more than £10 billion to play with ahead of his autumn statement next wednesday . so statement next wednesday. so joining me now to discuss is vicky pryce, chief economic adviser for the centre for economic and business research. vicky thank you so much for joining me. now, interestingly, all of this because of course, we've got civil servants who are working from home who have been for some time, but their levels of productivity aren't necessarily that great. so let's take, for example, the home office, who are not processing applications very quickly at all. things have got better, but we know that a lot of them have been working from home. is this the right move ? and in your the right move? and in your view, should they perhaps be going this ? going further than this? >> interesting. you >> well, it's interesting. you mentioned the home office. >> we don't have any evidence to suggest that working home suggest that working from home has do a has had anything to do with a lack of processing enough . lack of processing fast enough. um, migrant asylum seeker claims. so we can't really say anything about that. but whether productivity in the public
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sector has suffered or not is a completely different issue. productivity in the public sector seems to , you know, not sector seems to, you know, not have done fantastically well, but think that has an awful lot to do with what's going on in the health service and the national health service and other areas of the public sector . so first of all, i think we need to put that aside. the question of whether one works considerably better by having face to face contact , that's face to face contact, that's a different issue. we've seen in the private sector that there have been loads of attempts to get people back because there is a belief that perhaps face to face really matters. it's face really matters. and it's interesting what's happening in the civil service. the requirement particularly for requirement is particularly for more senior staff, very senior staff, who of course give guidance younger people and guidance to younger people and those who join recently to be there often because they there more often because they are the ones who are going to benefit that are benefit most, the ones that are the down the pecking the further down the pecking order, like, they order, if you like, because they get a lot of guidance and support from others. and i think get a lot of guidance and suppo quiten others. and i think get a lot of guidance and suppo quite importantnd i think get a lot of guidance and suppo quite important fori think get a lot of guidance and suppo quite important for the nk that's quite important for the people middle might people in the middle might actually have a much, much easier time than than perhaps
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those at the top or the bottom. in fact . so we'll see how it all in fact. so we'll see how it all develops. it's going be develops. it's going to be a very slow process getting very slow process of getting them back. >> i think they were >> well, i think they were processing faster processing things a lot faster beforehand, actually. and before all of this. but but i hear what you're saying. but it were you're saying. but if it were me, setting productivity me, i'd be setting productivity targets and they meet targets and if they don't meet them, wouldn't be them, then i wouldn't be allowing work from them, then i wouldn't be allowirthey'd work from them, then i wouldn't be allowirthey'd need work from them, then i wouldn't be allowirthey'd need to /ork from them, then i wouldn't be allowirthey'd need to have rom them, then i wouldn't be allowirthey'd need to have t01 them, then i wouldn't be allowirthey'd need to have to do home. they'd need to have to do something. what about this nofion something. what about this notion of inheritance then, something. what about this noti(jeremy heritance then, something. what about this noti(jeremyherita may then, something. what about this noti(jeremy herita may be then, something. what about this noti(jeremy herita may be looking that jeremy hunt may be looking to this is this a to cut it? is this is this a good move ? good move? >> well, there has been an awful lot of discussion about how much headroom there and just headroom there is and just to link with discussion, we link it with the discussion, we were quite a lot of, were just having quite a lot of, you know, departments have been cutting their office space cutting back their office space to some money because to save some money because people so people are not going in so often. it'll interesting people are not going in so oftsee it'll interesting people are not going in so oftsee whether interesting people are not going in so oftsee whether intihaveng people are not going in so off see whether intihave to to see whether they have to review that if this new policy really becomes sort of widespread . but there is widespread. but there is a little bit of headroom . so the little bit of headroom. so the question is how big the headroom is. there are estimates that it could be between 10 and 15 billion, more. some billion, maybe even more. some people maybe 20 billion. people think maybe 20 billion. if you were to cut inheritance tax completely, you you lose
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about 7 billion per annum. it could of course increase quite considerably if house prices go up and there is a lot more that is left with people , you know, is left with people, you know, after the death of their parents. but for the moment, i think you it's going to cost about 7 billion. the talk now is not abolishing it completely, but perhaps cutting it, maybe halving . well, that may cost halving it. well, that may cost 4.5 billion in a year. the question, of course, is how fast it's done. and do remember, we're going to have an election, whether it's going to be happening all under this happening at all under this government. question government. it's a big question mark because i could say it, but then it might come into play then it might not come into play until win the election, until they win the election, which what suspect they'll do. >> they'll say, yeah, we'll do that, but that'll be in a time when we might or may not be in power in which case if you want it, you're going to have to vote for us. then they've for us. and then they've obviously promised it in a manifesto therefore they manifesto and therefore they should well, listen, should do that. well, listen, vicky, have time vicky, i don't have much time left. ask you, left. i briefly want to ask you, is another thing that is there another thing that they might that might be better
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might do that might be better for them to give the people a break? >> well, for the moment, they need to say something about taxes because the conservative party really wants them to give them a little bit of the right wing of the conservative party to give them a little bit of a hope that there could be something that, that something like that, that happens, in happens, particularly in the budget. maybe there'll be a little later. little bit now, but later. i think probably more think would be probably more likely. to businesses likely. but help to businesses i think is absolutely essential. and going to and i think that's going to probably part of probably be the biggest part of what statement is all what the autumn statement is all about. pryce, thank so what the autumn statement is all about. thisyce, thank so what the autumn statement is all about. this is e, thank so what the autumn statement is all about. this is gb hank so what the autumn statement is all about. this is gb news. so what the autumn statement is all about. this is gb news. stay) much. this is gb news. stay tuned. there's loads more still to come in the next hour. >> afternoon. i'm alex deakin . >> afternoon. i'm alex deakin. this is your latest weather update from the met office for gb news after a fine friday for most , the weather is on the most, the weather is on the change again. rain is returning and a start and it will be a soggy start tomorrow. but by the afternoon most places brighten most places will brighten up again. pressure is edging in again. low pressure is edging in already spreading into the south—west of england, south wales northern ireland. wales and northern ireland. ahead of it actually turning quite this evening . could quite cold this evening. could be pockets of across
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be some pockets of frost across northern as the northern scotland. but as the wet weather arrives, it will turn milder. that rain could wet weather arrives, it will turn na der. that rain could wet weather arrives, it will turn na bit. that rain could wet weather arrives, it will turn na bit ofhat rain could wet weather arrives, it will turn na bit of disruptionjld cause a bit of disruption through parts of northern ireland, south and south ireland, south wales and south west england, where we have met. office warnings these office warnings in place. these are temperatures , are the minimum temperatures, but quite early in but these will be quite early in the morning the evening. i think by morning time temperatures be time the temperatures will be a little higher because this little bit higher because this rain air, but rain is bringing mild air, but it very soggy start. a it will be a very soggy start. a lot of spray and surface water on the roads south wales on the roads for south wales and south england, most south west england, but most places starting damp on saturday, places also saturday, most places also brightening up. the rain clears away east by lunchtime away to the east by lunchtime time, we'll keep some showers going over western scotland and northern ireland, but many places turning brighter , places turning brighter, although kent may on to the although kent may hang on to the rain, the afternoon, rain, well into the afternoon, temperatures again pretty mild for the time of year where it brightens up. we could easily get maybe but get 14, 15, maybe 16, but feeling cooler with the wind windier again sunday, windier again on sunday, particularly across the south, very blustery here, lots of cloud around fairly frequent showers coming going may showers coming and going may stay dry in eastern scotland and there'll be some brighter spells elsewhere. but generally a cloudy day with showers.
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cloudy day with some showers. again, but feeling again, quite mild, but feeling cooler wind down on my cooler with the wind down on my statement . statement. >> you are doubled down on it. >> you are doubled down on it. >> back to down no left. >> back to down no left. >> so when? >> so when? >> so when so when some of your constituents leave break the law you don't you said that's fine. don't arrest because they've arrest them because they've broken arrest them. >> that's a ridiculous. >> that's a ridiculous. >> why is it your senior politician suggesting that the law broken , protecting law should be broken, protecting our when you go bed our borders when you go to bed at at night time after at night, at night time after you got a kid. bet the you you've got a kid. i bet the last thing do before last thing you do before you go to lock your door, put to bed is lock your door, put your alarm and make your alarm alarm on and make sure that nobody can enter your property when go to bed should property when i go to bed should be same .
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way . way. >> good afternoon. it's just coming up to 5:00. this is gb news. we are the people's channel. i'm nana akua. now, coming up in the next hour, suella braverman her route to rwanda. of course, she's no longer home secretary in the plan that she put in place. she's now saying that actually it needs an update, otherwise there's no way it's going to work. little tweaks work. and even little tweaks might even make it might not even make it acceptable. we will be discussing pile discussing that then let's pile on the pylons. the plan is that the government will potentially give you money off your electricity bills if you're happy to have one of these ugly eyesores near your well eyesores near your house. well i don't think so, but that's what they're suggesting . but does they're suggesting. but does that work for you ? and then how
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that work for you? and then how about this , lineker, there about this, lineker, there extending his contract. but how much will they pay him? that's the question. and why even extend it? he's currently on about 1.35 million of licence fee money and it seems fee payers money and it seems the bbc will be extending that contract. i'm just contract. and i'm just questioning whether well, whether to do so given whether it's wise to do so given all the political comments he's made, irrespective of the fact they've made and also they've made changes. and also that's money. and then that's a lot of money. and then finally, the word police man to be outlawed . so you can shout be outlawed. so you can shout out from the river to the sea or potentially shout jihad, even though get in trouble. though you might get in trouble. but , they're looking but policeman, they're looking to that particular term, to outlaw that particular term, presumably because of the word man, actually relates to man, which actually relates to human or mankind. but they're looking outlaw that. they've looking to outlaw that. they've got too much their got way too much time on their hands. that up. if you got way too much time on their hand�*to that up. if you got way too much time on their hand�*to get up. if you got way too much time on their hand�*to get in up. if you got way too much time on their hand�*to get in touch, up. if you got way too much time on their hand�*to get in touch, it's�*. if you want to get in touch, it's gbviews@gbnews.com or tweet us at . gb news. gbviews@gbnews.com or tweet us at. gb news. very gbviews@gbnews.com or tweet us at . gb news. very good gbviews@gbnews.com or tweet us at. gb news. very good evening to you. >> it's a minute past five. i am
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aaron armstrong with the headunes aaron armstrong with the headlines from the gb newsroom. the prime minister says he's determined his plan to determined to get his plan to deport asylum seekers to rwanda through quickly possible , through as quickly as possible, despite opposition . despite opposition. >> will the prime minister rescued the plan. mrs. rescued the rwanda plan. mrs. braverman well, it's after the former home secretary said his attempts will fail unless the opt out of the european convention on human rights. >> so braverman, who was sacked this week, says proposed this week, says the proposed new treaty legislation are treaty and legislation are simply tweaked version of simply a tweaked version of a failed plan. a she warned rishi sunak's proposal will get bogged down in the courts. he says he'll take on standing in he'll take on anyone standing in his . his way. >> we've to get the rwanda >> we've got to get the rwanda plan up and running. i will do whatever it takes to make that happen. are this happen. people are sick of this merry go round . i want end merry go round. i want to end it. my patience is wearing thin like else is . that's like everyone else is. that's why our emergency legislation will make it crystal clear that rwanda is safe for these purposes. it meets all the concerns that people have raised because new arrangement because of our new arrangement with them, and we want to stop any challenges to
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any more domestic challenges to this program. and i've also been clear that we won't let a foreign court stand in the way of us getting a flight off to rwanda. >> the labour leader is refusing to back calls for a ceasefire in gaza, claiming his party remains to back calls for a ceasefire in gaza, (despite his party remains to back calls for a ceasefire in gaza, (despite this party remains to back calls for a ceasefire in gaza, (despite this week'semains united despite this week's rebellion. visit to a gas rebellion. on a visit to a gas terminal aberdeen, keir terminal in aberdeen, sir keir starmer indicated his position proves he's the right person to be next prime minister be the next prime minister however, news understands however, gb news understands there within there is concern within the party of a growing rift between sir keir starmer and the scottish labour leader anas sarwar. msps look likely to back an amendment in holyrood next week calling for a ceasefire the labour leader says his focus is on the release of hostages and the plight civilians the plight of civilians alleviating the suffering and a two state solution and making sure we get there. >> there is complete unity in the labour party . three hostages the labour party. three hostages are being held as we have this conversation, as people are dying in gaza, as we have this conversation , i'm sure you will conversation, i'm sure you will understand that my focus is on how we alleviate that situation, not questions of labour party
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management to 12 year old boys have been remanded in custody at birmingham magistrates court charged with murder and possessing a machete. >> they're accused of killing 19 year old sean c zahawi, who was attacked in wolverhampton on monday night and died at the scene . they'll appear in court scene. they'll appear in court again on monday. scene. they'll appear in court again on monday . a man who again on monday. a man who murdered a school teacher in ireland has been jailed for life. 23 year old ashlin murphy was killed while exercising on a canal path in tullamore in january last year. 33 year old joseph puskar has denied the murder, but was convicted by a jury murder, but was convicted by a jury last week . outside court, jury last week. outside court, police, who described the case as a monstrous crime , praised as a monstrous crime, praised the victim's family for courage and dignity. during the trial . and dignity. during the trial. retail sales have unexpectedly fallen, dropping to their lowest level since the pandemic. the office for national statistics says retail sales volumes dipped 0.3% last month . analysts had
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0.3% last month. analysts had expected a rise . retailers are expected a rise. retailers are blaming the cost of living reduced footfall and wet . reduced footfall and wet. weather, £8.3 billion has been promised to fix what the prime minister has described as the scourge of potholes. the funding for road maintenance in england will be available to local authorities over the next decade. the money was saved by scrapping the hs2 rail line north of birmingham . british gas north of birmingham. british gas is hiring hundreds of new staff. the energy giant says they'll work at contact centres across the uk to help customers struggling with their bills . on struggling with their bills. on 700 new jobs will be created by the end of the year. the rat infested old bedford prison has been issued with an urgent nofice been issued with an urgent notice to improve . inspectors notice to improve. inspectors found inmates are being held in mouldy cells with broken windows for up to 23 hours a day. levels of violence against staff in the last month were also the highest of any adult male prison in the
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country, and recorded self harm . country, and recorded self harm. the third highest rate. it's the fifth jail to be given an urgent noficein fifth jail to be given an urgent notice in the last 12 months and everton have had ten points deducted for breaching the premier league's financial fair play premier league's financial fair play rules. an independent commission found everton's losses during the 2001 to 22 season amounted to £1245 million. that's almost 20 million. that's almost 20 million more than the allowed limit. the penalty leaves them on four points, and in the league's relegation zone. although the club says it will appeal the decision . well, appeal the decision. well, that's all we have time for, for this bulletin. we are live for you on tv, digital radio, and also on your smart speaker. just say play gb news. now it's back to . to nana. >> thank you, aaron. this is gb news. it'sjust >> thank you, aaron. this is gb news. it's just fast approaching. seven minutes after 5:00. rishi sunak promised to take on whoever is standing in the way of the rwanda plan in a
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renewed attempt to stop the boats. as around about 1000 people have crossed in small boats in recent days. meanwhile sacked home secretary suella braverman has claimed that tinkering with a failed plan will not work, and she sets out her own plan to end the deadlock over deportation flights to rwanda . senior tory damian green rwanda. senior tory damian green slammed bravermans controversial proposals, accusing her of wanting to act like putin. so joining me now is former adviser to tony blair, john mcternan . to tony blair, john mcternan. john, thank you so much for joining me. first of all, a comment like that, she's behaving like putin and what do you make of that ? you make of that? >> i think that's a fair comment, actually, because yeah, suella braverman is article in the telegraph suggested that we suspend old english common law . suspend old english common law. now only a dictator would think of suspending common law and the protections that common law gives to people in britain . i
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gives to people in britain. i think it was an extraordinary article and i think it was right for damian green to focus in on that specific thing. i cannot imagine anything less conservative than saying that we should rip up our traditional common law . that is the basis of common law. that is the basis of engush common law. that is the basis of english law, but that would be specifically for this case. >> she's saying that perhaps for this case and she probably i mean, if you think about putin, he's a dictator and people don't tend to agree with what he's doing or but a lot of the british public are behind and suella with regard to stopping those boats and the rwanda policy . you can't just rip up policy. you can't just rip up bafic policy. you can't just rip up basic british rights once we've had for hundreds of years just because suella says so , and just because suella says so, and just because suella says so, and just because suella says so, and just because suella claims that's what british people want, that is why we have a legal system . is why we have a legal system. >> the legal system is there to get between us, between the desires of politicians and the and our liberties. and the supreme court in this case has
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made a coruscating judgement. i think suella is right about the judgement. there's no way around it. it's basically the supreme court found that the high court had been lying about rwanda to two lower courts and they actually investigated it and they found that the reassurance that were given by the home office could not be trusted. i don't think there's any chance of rain lifting off to rwanda before the next election . and before the next election. and anyway. rwanda only has space for 200 refugees or asylum seekers , and the home office seekers, and the home office admitted in their evidence to the supreme court that really it didn't matter whether or not what they had said about rwanda was true, because the idea was rwanda would be so horrible , it rwanda would be so horrible, it would be a deterrent and nobody would be a deterrent and nobody would want to go there and therefore nobody would go to rwanda human rights rwanda. so nobody's human rights could violated . and could possibly be violated. and it's very strange alice in it's a very strange alice in wonderland world. >> well, but actually now hang father, because although there aren't many places there, it does start to set a precedent
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that somebody can be sent from this country elsewhere for processing. so it would open the door to that that being something that we would do. and let's be fair. places like the un, the un, sorry, they they use rwanda. so rwanda is not really such a terrible place to send people . and part of it, you people. and part of it, you mentioned it being a deterrent because it's such a horrible place. i don't know whether it's such a horrible place is the deterrent. it's the fact that it's not they actually it's not where they actually want is more the want it to be. is more the deterrent and probably nearer from they left . from where they left. >> the simplest place to do third party, third country processing is france . that's the processing is france. that's the simplest thing. that's what we should be doing. all this nonsense about setting up the supreme court as an enemy, setting up this dividing line in politics. this isn't about far better treatment of refugees and asylum seekers, 80% of whom get to come to britain after applications are being considered. this is just about
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cruelty. we should be. there's an easy solution to all this that doesn't involve going to rwanda. >> well, why is it? but why is it cruelty sending someone to rwanda if they come to this country illegally and you're sending them there for processing? because frankly, we don't have the room and france , don't have the room and france, which you said is the easiest, but you that is the but you said that france is the easiest solution and it just isn't, is it? let's honest. isn't, is it? let's be honest. the french don't want to do the deal. deal >> the french don't trust >> no, the french don't trust this government. i'm not surprised. this surprised. they don't trust this government. british people government. the british people don't easiest government. the british people don't was easiest government. the british people don't was france. easiest place was france. >> it isn't. i'm saying >> and it isn't. i'm just saying it it's . >> it's. >> it's. >> it's. >> it is with a different government because you could do a deal easily and get be trusted. the but but let's trusted. but the but but let's be let's be really clear about this. the government have made it illegal able to be a refugee or asylum seeker. that's all they've declared that illegal. they've safe routes. they've not got safe routes. there's routes. there's not legal routes. there's not legal routes. there's to to there's no way to come to this country and to your other country. and to your other statement that we don't have the room that is just not is arrant nonsense .
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nonsense. >> well, we've always had refugees, asylum seekers. >> we still do. we will have for decades to come . it's part of decades to come. it's part of our responsibility. >> all right. well, where is that room? because you've told me that what i've said is nonsense. we're running out of spaces where we can place people. where? where are you saying if you if you if you increase the productivity of the home office, you do three cases or is it four cases a week ? or is it four cases a week? >> if you increase that, you get people out of temporary accommodation and they could go and live, earn and they could work, and live in the uk, work, earn and live in the uk, across the uk, that's the problem. the problem is the system . system. >> you said, no, no, no, but we've got a housing in we've got a housing shortage in this anyway . we do. we this country anyway. we do. we do have a problem with housing. where they go ? where will they go? >> there's room in cowdenbeath. there's in the north—east. there's room in the north—east. there's room in the north—east. there's in the north—west there's room in the north—west there's room in the north—west there places around there are places all around the country live in there are places all around the cou case. live in the case. >> why have such a >> then why do we have such a housing shortage? because we have housing shortage in this have a housing shortage in this country already. so if you're sayingyou have a housing crisis, you have a housing crisis, you have a housing crisis because cost of crisis because the cost of
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housing, this government housing, because this government has cut the benefits, paid to support people who are renting in the private sector, it is dnven in the private sector, it is driven rents up, it's driven up. >> the social sector is sat over the worst inflation he's ever had in terms of house prices and rents. that's the that's the housing crisis. >> and on the other side, the supply side, the government aren't putting enough capital into building new council housing, social homes. housing, new social homes. >> but we don't actually have the in britain. the places to live in britain. >> john, you that we don't >> john, you know that we don't have houses in this have enough houses in this country and that to country and that we need to build houses you must build more houses and you must know coming to this know that people coming to this country, must accommodate. country, we must accommodate. we'd to put somewhere. we'd have to put them somewhere. and you can see that the government, government, even government, any government, even even will even the labour party, will struggle places to put struggle to find places to put them is this this is the >> this is this this is the point. the >> this is this this is the point . the government point. the government have a system whereby why you don't process claims quickly and you keep people in temporary accommodation. the minute your case is dealt with, you , you case is dealt with, you, you have the right to live and to earn and then you can go and live and earn anywhere in the
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country. people move around the country. people move around the country all the time. british citizens country citizens move around the country all this is a this is all the time. this is a this is all the time. this is a this is a of fantasy, a kind of fantasy, magical vision are in some sense vision that we are in some sense full and we're putting up a sign on the on the borders that we're full. we're full. we have full. we're not full. we have vacancies the job market at vacancies in the job market at the moment. >> so your views , you have needs >> so your views, you have needs for new labour coming in all the time . time. >> well, it's the economy. >> well, it's the economy. >> so your view is to process them faster, let them all come into the country much more quickly. so let me let me just so in your world, so in your world there be processed faster. the civil service are just we know that they're just doing it slowly, deliberately . slowly, partly deliberately. we've tell us that . we've heard them tell us that. so that. so in your so we know that. so in your world, they'll happen. they'll be faster and then be processed faster and then they'll be accommodated more quickly they'll be accommodated more quwork more quickly. how does to work more quickly. how does that people from coming that deter people from coming across manner? because across in that manner? because it doesn't, it? it'll it doesn't, does it? it'll encourage coming encourage more people coming in illegally anyway. we just illegally anyway. if we just give most. >> yeah . my solution to the >> yeah. my solution to the backlog would be i'd give i'd give an amnesty to existing
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applicants for asylum and refugee status. i'd sort out the backlog by getting of it backlog by getting rid of it that by giving everybody that way, by giving everybody the and thing the right to stay. and the thing is, if you start with a false premise that the purpose of asylum and refugee systems are to assess whether people have a claim under international law , claim under international law, under treaty, that we treaty obugafions under treaty, that we treaty obligations , whether they have a obligations, whether they have a case to have asylum here or have refuge here. it's not this idea of deterrence has got nothing to do with a functioning refugee system. >> all right , john. well, >> all right, john. well, listeners. good to talk to you . listeners. good to talk to you. we'll have to have a chat about this again, because i'm not done. we're done . it's done. we're not done. it's unfinished business. it's to unfinished business. but it's to good talk to you. john mcternan, thank much. well, i can thank you so much. well, i can now speak with lawyer younis lanete, joins me now. so we lanete, who joins me now. so we have a situation here that suella was being compared to putin because apparently she wants to suspend common law to enable migrants to be sent back .
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enable migrants to be sent back. is that a realistic thing for her to be suggesting , doing ? her to be suggesting, doing? >> well, if she and we are preaching to the people that are coming here, that we have to respect the rule of law. >> we have certain values, we have certain behaviours, then isn't she effectively preaching against her own value system , against her own value system, value judgements, you know , if value judgements, you know, if we expect people to adhere and respect our rules here, then shouldn't we be setting an example? >> well, we can change our rules if it's not working . you know, a if it's not working. you know, a lot of them are being taken advantage of. the daily mail did advantage of. the daily mail did a fantastic expose of lots of lawyers who are actually using the system to profiteer, but also getting migrants in who shouldn't really be here and enabung shouldn't really be here and enabling them to come here. so what's wrong with her amending laws to daily mail is a standard bearers . bearers. >> wikipedia doesn't even really it's irrespective actually of
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who uncovered it. >> the fact is it was happening so you can criticise the daily mail all you like, but the bottom line is they uncovered something that police should something that the police should have proved have uncovered and it proved that illegal business was that this illegal business was happening. with is . let's get happening. so with is. let's get back to the rule of law right ? back to the rule of law right? >> this is a supreme court. the highest court in the land . if highest court in the land. if the home secretary and the government are not prepared to respect the highest court the respect the highest court in the land, what message is that land, then what message is that sending to people? what sending out to people? what messages sending all messages are sending out to all those protesters ? week those protesters? last week we were go at what message were having a go at what message is it sending out if those people that if those that actually set law , set the actually set the law, set the standards are not prepared to respect highest legal respect the highest legal authority in the land? you tell me, what message is that sending? >> well, no, the questions. >> well, no, i do the questions. i the questions. but to me , i do the questions. but to me, i'm applying your standard. >> i'm applying your standard, i'm standard . i'm applying your standard. >> not answering as to the >> i'm not answering as to the message it sends because i think it's a worse message being sent that nothing appears to be happening when people to happening when people come to this and this country illegally. and literally so
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this country illegally. and litera message, so this country illegally. and litera message, in so this country illegally. and litera message, in your so this country illegally. and litera message, in your view, does what message, in your view, does that ? that send? >> all right. >> all right. >> let me let me just deal with breaking down what you're saying. you're saying is saying. what you're saying is people coming people are coming here illegally. coming here people are coming here ill�*thisly. coming here people are coming here ill�*this manner coming here people are coming here ill�*this manner because ng here people are coming here ill�*this manner because there 'e people are coming here ill�*this manner because there are in this manner because there are no legal routes for them to arrive you will find arrive here. what you will find is the vast majority of these people that come across i think the last statistic shows 76% are actually granted asylum. so whilst they may be coming here technically illegally , they are technically illegally, they are actually legal . if only we technically illegally, they are actually legal. if only we had a fair route . now let's let's just fair route. now let's let's just cast the cross back . we have cast the cross back. we have shown as a compassionate nation, we have shown that we can deal with asylum systems , we can deal with asylum systems, we can deal with asylum systems, we can deal with refugees compassionately . with refugees compassionately. do you remember ukraine happened . we showed the world that we can deal with crisis in a humane way . so why don't we apply the way. so why don't we apply the same policies? >> well, i mean , the standards >> well, i mean, the standards you set, the standards to the world. >> we've shown the world that we are a compassionate nation. >> when ukraine start happen, we showed the world we stood up to
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the world and we showed compassion. showed world compassion. we showed the world that deal with with that we can deal with with humane so why don't we just humane way. so why don't we just do same okay do the same thing? okay >> well, let me all i'll answer that because we knew that those people were genuine refugees. and people who and a lot of these people who are coming. hang on. you asked me question. you asked me me a question. you asked me a question. me question. you did ask me a question. you did ask me a question , even though i do the question, even though i do the question. so you'll give time question. so you'll give me time to and like said, to answer it. and like i said, the from ukraine, the people from ukraine, we could were fleeing could see that they were fleeing a they were genuine a war zone. they were genuine refugees. of people refugees. a lot of these people shouldn't lot of shouldn't be here. a lot of them, lot of the people throw them, a lot of the people throw away their documents and a lot of proven to be of them are proven to be convicts other countries. convicts from other countries. so we so the bottom line is and we actually have a higher percentage accepting of percentage of accepting of people via these people who come via these illegal routes than any the illegal routes than any of the other european so other european countries. so i actually that you are actually think that you are right. are compassionate and actually think that you are rithink are compassionate and actually think that you are rithink people :ompassionate and actually think that you are rithink people are jassionate and actually think that you are rithink people are taking ate and i think people are taking advantage i think people are taking advantag(just to pick up your >> okay. just to pick up your point, people coming here from afghanistan have we not caused the situation in afghanistan? are they not genuine people coming here from we coming here from iraq? have we not contributed to people coming here people from
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syria? >> how long is a piece of string? we could go string? my friend? we could go on to the on forever trying to play the blame this isn't a blame blame game. this isn't a blame game. >> it's not a blame game. >> it's not a blame game. >> well, you be >> people. well, you seem to be playing it. you're one playing it. you're the one that's doing these are that's doing that. these are either genuine refugees and people genuinely be people who should genuinely be claiming migrants claiming asylum or migrants or they're of them they're not. and a lot of them turn to be economic turn out to be economic migrants. lot them are paid migrants. a lot of them are paid thousands pounds to get to thousands of pounds to get to this country, they've got on this country, and they've got on dinghies boats and dinghies and boats and they throw their documents. throw away their documents. okay, this country cannot continue to afford that. >> this is new referee and >> this is a new referee and i'll deal with it. who are you saying a genuine and who are saying is a genuine and who are you saying genuine take you saying is not a genuine take somebody afghanistan and somebody from afghanistan and iraq? that they iraq? are you saying that they are likely to genuine refugees? >> well, listen, it's down to the in home to the people in the home office to determine whether they are or they aren't. i don't know. somebody afghanistan somebody coming from afghanistan may be. that's may, may or may not be. that's not point here, is it? my not the point here, is it? my point is that people are taking advantage system. suella advantage of the system. suella braverman come up with braverman has come up with a proposal that proposal where she thinks that actually abandon actually we should abandon common specific common law. but this specific this specific thing. i'm asking you what your view is. that's
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where are with it . if we what where we are with it. if we what would you suggest then? she should be doing in terms of the legal system? or are you saying that should carry on as it is that it should carry on as it is in other aspects? >> can i have a public road, put it to a petition and abandoned common law from some other things members the things that the members of the public, the majority of members of don't like? can of the public don't like? can we can that? can we do that? >> i'm asking you, let's >> well, i'm asking you, let's say, example, for example, say, for example, for example, i'm asking you because you're the lawyer. >> so i'm asking you if she doesn't do that, then what? what suggestion would you make instead of that? because it seems that everyone. yeah we're getting to the crux of it. >> you're asking me because i'm the lawyer. i'm here because i am the lawyer. so i'm telling you me questions, don't you? >> fighting, because. >> because when i tell you that we need to respect the rule of law, that's i've law, because that's how i've been that's value been brought up. that's my value system. don't seem to like system. you don't seem to like it. you're coming with it. and you're coming back with different you're different things. so if you're asking what i'm asking me as a lawyer, what i'm saying highest in saying is the highest court in the given a judgement
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the land have given a judgement and how i've been brought up in this country, been this country, i have been brought rule brought up to respect the rule of if you don't like of law. now, if you don't like that i like it that, it's not whether i like it or not. >> it's got nothing to do with iran, like it or not. but what >> it's got nothing to do with irtpeople it or not. but what >> it's got nothing to do with irtpeople aren'tot. but what >> it's got nothing to do with irtpeople aren't respectingat >> it's got nothing to do with irtpeople aren't respecting the if people aren't respecting the rule this country? rule of law in this country? >> well , i. >> well, i. >> well, i. >> who isn't respecting the rule of law? >> well, i'm asking you that. what if people aren't respecting the rule of law in this country? but of lawyers and people but a lot of lawyers and people taking the laws taking advantage of the laws actually in with actually in specific in with with all of this with regard to all of this migration that to be migration, that seems to be a lot people taking advantage lot of people taking advantage of of law . of the rule of law. >> they are not taking advantage of rule law. are of the rule of law. they are coming with the only means coming here with the only means that able do so . that they are able to do so. >> five grand. the people that are not taking certainly the people that are seeking not to respect the rule of law, not to respect the rule of law, not to respect the rule of law, not to respect the law is enforced . respect the law is enforced. >> government . >> government. >> government. >> well, listen, it's been good talking to you. thank you so much, yunus. olonets always a pleasure. we must talk again. this is gb news. you're watching and listening. where live is coming up, reports suggest the
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chancellor could be giving households £1,000 off their energy bills, but there's one condition. households must allow new pylons to be built in the area. would you put up with that? i'm nana akua. this is gb news, britain's news channel
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the very latest until 6:00 this evening. now, chancellor jeremy evening. now, chancellorjeremy hunt is expected to give households £1,000 off their energy bills . that's annually in energy bills. that's annually in exchange for allowing new pylons to be built in their area. local communities will also receive additional funding for projects such as new roads and health facilities as part of the government's attempts to woo them over . government's attempts to woo them over. however, some campaigners have criticised the plans, saying that any help with energy bills should be based on
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geography . to discuss this geography. to discuss this further, i'm joined by meteorologist and social commentator jim meteorologist and social commentatorjim dale . jim, meteorologist and social commentator jim dale . jim, thank commentator jim dale. jim, thank you for joining commentator jim dale. jim, thank you forjoining me on a friday. it's usually a saturday. i'll probably be speaking to you tomorrow as well. but let's discuss this issue of pylons . discuss this issue of pylons. yeah, they are offering to potentially give people a bit of a cash back to type thing if the pylon is near them. is this a goodideain pylon is near them. is this a good idea in your view ? good idea in your view? >> it's better than a kick in the bottom because if they don't give them any money, it's going to happen anyway. >> reason that is >> and the reason for that is the infrastructure in terms of the infrastructure in terms of the national grid and where these where the distribution has gone has gone completely, utterly out of date by about eight years. >> so if respective of whether we're talking green new green energy or other forms of energy , energy or other forms of energy, it's got to happen. >> and that's what the national grid is making clear. >> and the compensation there
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simply to, i guess, give people a little bit of a little bit of security or a little bit of something rather than an absolute nothing. >> well , but these absolute nothing. >> well, but these things are an eyesore . and not only that, but eyesore. and not only that, but the criticism has been that it will be giving people benefits based on geography rather based on their geography rather than ability afford the than their ability to afford the electricity. and that's that is an issue. >> okay. so there's a cost issue here. >> and i can hear what's being said here. £1,000 back and all the rest of it. and geography rather than necessarily the monetary side of things. but pylons and pylons are ten times cheaper than sticking them underground. now if they went underground, if we got rid of all the pylons and the new ones coming , these went underground . coming, these went underground. the actual cost of doing that over the next few years , ten over the next few years, ten times more. that's what that cost. >> that goes to absolutely everybody for your bills are going to go sky high. >> so this is just an extension of what we've got at the moment will extend into the north sea
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for the wind farms out there , for the wind farms out there, bringing in the green energy . bringing in the green energy. but it's not just green energy and make it clear this is not just a net zero effort, although there's parts of that . and to be there's parts of that. and to be honest, those that are complaining, i honest, those that are complaining , i believe, are few complaining, i believe, are few and far between. and they weren't so much complaining when fracking and the gas flares that went up that would have gone up all over the country at that time fracking was was was time when fracking was was was was to go ahead. now it was going to go ahead. now it isn't. so this one is this one isn't. so this one is this one is instead for this green energy, this so supposedly cheaper seems to be heavily based on being cheaper by using subsidies, because ultimately the £1,000 do every household near the pylon is going to cost a fortune and actually comes out as a taxpayers purse in our pocket. >> right. surely for them to build these things. so i'm just not seeing this green. it's not like a private company is going to come and build them all. is it or it look, it comes it or is it look, it comes without cost. >> em- without cost. >> we know that >> nana i think we know that doesn't what which way we doesn't matter what which way we turn. going be doesn't matter what which way we thost going be doesn't matter what which way we thost involved. going be doesn't matter what which way we thost involved. nothing's be doesn't matter what which way we thost involved. nothing's for be a cost involved. nothing's for
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free not even free out there. not even the wind . you show nice wind. you show some nice pictures of the wind. now, this doesn't so somewhere doesn't come cost. so somewhere or going to be or other there are going to be costs involved . and i think the costs involved. and i think the national grid have made the decision. the government have backed and it looks like to backed them and it looks like to me that they're spending 42 billion apparently over the next three of investment. three years of investment. that's what. yes a lot of money they're spending that national grid is spending that money on on our our behalf. so that we can actually electrify and be ready with the technology that's necessary going forward. so this is a this is a correct step. it's the only step because i'm not sure what other step we can take apart from going back to the to the dinosaur times. >> i but the point is that this green energy that we've been sold, there's a lot cheaper is requiring subsidies. and we're actually paying for all of that anyway . surely we could use anyway. surely we could use other things . i mean and also other things. i mean and also these pylons , how long do they these pylons, how long do they last? what's their lifespan ? and last? what's their lifespan? and you'll need to keep fossil fuels to be able to there are made out
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of steel, i'm presuming so you're going to have to keep making . making steel. >> so far. so far, they've they've well to last 80 they've done well to last 80 years. know, 80 years years. but, you know, 80 years is and i'm not an is a long time. and i'm not an expert terms of the expert in terms of the engineering side things. but, engineering side of things. but, you some point things you know, at some point things need particularly need replacing, particularly things that are of steel. things that are made of steel. so that is the case as far as subsidies are concerned. >> we'll need coal, won't we, for steel ? for steel? >> well, hopefully not. i think we're going to start to see some changes down in port talbot and other places in time. way in what evolution an what way? in evolution as an evolution . so i think, again , evolution. so i think, again, tattoo, isn't it? they've made the decision to go in that direction to get rid of the old black furnaces and go more into the green technology. well, they might be electrical furnaces, but they still need coal, don't they? >> no, they? >> no , not necessarily. >> no, not necessarily. >> no, not necessarily. >> the steel is point. the evolution rather than rather than what where we are at this moment. i think there's a lot of people both itself in terms of suggesting what you're saying.
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and those people who are complaining about pylons going up, as i say, almost like we need to stay in our caves rather than trying to make the progress, the economic progress that this country badly needs as it's been so poorly served in the last 10 or 15 years in terms of going forward. so this is this is why national grid are making those decisions . making those decisions. >> well, it's interesting. we'll probably buying cheap probably end up buying cheap steel from china to which who use coal powered stations anyway. it's none of it makes anyway. it's none of it makes any sense. we could just carry on using fossil fuels and things. listen, jim dale, thank you very much. we'll probably carry with discussion carry on with this discussion tomorrow. gb news. tomorrow. this is gb news. coming up, gary lineker , he coming up, gary lineker, he could be set to extend his stay with the bbc after several reports suggested that they have begun a new contract begun discussing a new contract with him. we'll into that with him. we'll get into that next. first, let's get your next. but first, let's get your latest . news latest. news >> hi, there it is, 532. i'm aaron armstrong with the latest
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fast approaching. 35 minutes after 5:00. this is gb news. we are the people's channel. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua bringing you the very latest until six this evening. next up, though, dangerous prisoners with severe court order restrictions have been mismanaged by an oxford job centre that's putting the public at risk. a whistleblower has told gb news high risk ex—convicts, including violent sexual offenders, murderers and rapists , were murderers and rapists, were managed at the job centre in central oxford without their restriction being recorded or observed , leading to several observed, leading to several violations of public protection arrangements. charlie peters has this exclusive report . could we this exclusive report. could we be working with convicted murderers , rapists and sex murderers, rapists and sex groomers ? groomers? >> is it possible that paedophiles released from prison can be given internet enabled devices ? gb news has heard devices? gb news has heard allegations from a former civil servant at the department for work and pensions that a system
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in job centres designed to help former prisoners get back into work is not only flawed, but putting the public and even victims of their crimes at risk. i met with mark, not his real name, who joined the oxford job centre in april 2021 and took on responsibilities for handling ex prisoners . prisoners. >> there was absolutely no support , no handover, no support, no handover, no specialist training . i would be specialist training. i would be supporting sexual offenders via offenders, stranger rapists when working with ex—prisoners, dwp civil servants should process intelligence called multi—agency pubuc intelligence called multi—agency public protection arrangements or mappa that detail all their restrictions in work and training. >> mark alleged that this information was often missing. >> i later learned of a universal credit claimant. i was interviewing who had mappa conditions due to the fact he was a sexual offender. but there was a sexual offender. but there was no map intelligence or
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safeguarding measures pinned to his digital account. i contacted the mappa lead for the office and the response that i got back was if we don't have the map intelligence from the national probation service, we do not chase it. that is not our job. chase it. that is not ourjob. and at that point i realised we have a huge problem . have a huge problem. >> mark also claimed that there were problems in storing and reviewing information about ex—prisoners as all the physical mappa documentation is stored under lock and key in a cabinet. >> when i first accessed that folder, i was absolutely appalled. clearly hadn't been reviewed for over ten years. there was over 20 mappa documents in that folder where court order restrictions had expired years prior to me accessing that folder after an incident where a convicted paedophile was allegedly given a smartphone against his restrictions. >> mark notified the office that they had a big problem. >> did we have sexual offenders, stranger rapists , applying for
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stranger rapists, applying for work, applying for training opportunities that still had mappa restrictions in place? court ordered restrictions. we just didn't know. it was impossible to ascertain , a impossible to ascertain, a senior manager wrote back to say, you have identified a massive risk for both. >> this case and wider. massive risk for both. >> this case and wider . but mark >> this case and wider. but mark alleged that nothing was done, no safeguarding measures were put in place and more incidents occurred . gb news has heard occurred. gb news has heard compelling testimony about other incidents where the dwp allegedly failed to observe restrictions applied to ex—prisoners . restrictions applied to ex—prisoners. in one case, restrictions applied to ex—prisoners . in one case, the ex—prisoners. in one case, the oxford job centre offered work to a notorious paedophile , while to a notorious paedophile, while he had already been given a laptop with internet access . laptop with internet access. this man, who we cannot name for legal reasons, preyed on vulnerable young girls in one of britain's worst grooming gangs. scandals mark said that he kept reporting these alleged failures but was not listened to . my
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but was not listened to. my caseload was a minefield, an absolute minefield. >> i had no support in this matter. no one was taking it seriously . seriously. >> with the strain of working with ex prisoners and what he said was a failure to react to his concerns. mark had a total breakdown and has been hospitalised regularly since . hospitalised regularly since. >> you lose composure and rationality . my role was my tool rationality. my role was my tool to keep people safe. you take the role away. you still have the role away. you still have the concerns and the public are still at risk . but the concerns and the public are still at risk. but you can't do anything about it . you've been anything about it. you've been silenced by the very people that are supposed to be supporting you . you. >> charlie peters reporting there. well, in response, the department of work and pensions insist that former convicts are monitored in the workplace and that they promised to investigate . the statement says investigate. the statement says that we take all staff concerns very seriously and are committed to investigating any issues that are raised. dr. cements, held by oxford job centre on customers
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with restrictions are up to date and regularly reviewed training is provided for jobcentre staff nationwide and we continue to work closely with thames valley probation service and others. so we have the necessary detail on applicants personal circumstances . well, we'll watch circumstances. well, we'll watch that story with interest. but now gary lineker could be set to extend his stay with the bbc after several reports suggested that they have begun discussing a new contract with him. gary has hosted bbc's match of the day since 1999, but has been criticised over the last decade for voicing his political beliefs , both in the media and beliefs, both in the media and online. now his contract, worth £1.35 million a year, expires when the bbc's own premier league rights deal runs out at the end of next season . so the end of next season. so joining me now for the latest on this is the former head of religion and ethics at channel 4 and the bbc, akal ahmed akal, thank you so much for joining
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and the bbc, akal ahmed akal, thank you so much forjoining me . so first of all, gary lineker , . so first of all, gary lineker, his contract due to expire soon, 1.35 million. look in your view, is that not an extortion amount to expect the licence fee payer to expect the licence fee payer to stump up ? to stump up? >> it's clearly a business rate isn't it. it's the going rate. >> i mean it's whether or not you think he's good enough, whether or not you think he's worth business rate worth it. the business rate where 1.35 million for like one show a day a week know that's the thing. whether or not you think it's right or i think it's right, it's not. the thing is actually whether or not they think what would he get somewhere else? i think with gary lineker, actually bit gary lineker, i'm actually a bit biased. really biased. i think he's a really good presenter. think he's good presenter. i think he's very good at match of the day. i think the audience like him as well. >> we've seen that they've got they've got behind him times. they've got behind him at times. >> put the politics of his >> you put the politics of his opinions to one side. >> i think he's a great presenter . presenter. >> i think many people would want it be sky or etcetera. >> and we know that has
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>> and we know that he has worked as well in worked for bt sport as well in the he's he's in the in the past. he's he's in the in the past. he's he's in the in the marketplace. >> he's a big name when it comes to football presenters. >> and know it comes to >> and we know when it comes to football, is all over football, money is all over the place. >> t f- f of money that >> the amount of money that footballers the amount footballers get paid, the amount of money that rights go for, the presenters get paid a lot of money. >> the bbc, like all broadcasters, to be in broadcasters, has got to be in that market and do that market and but i do understand it feels like a lot of money. >> well, it is a lot of money. it doesn't feel it and it doesn't just feel like it and the are not in the the bbc are not in the marketplace. that's the marketplace. so that's the point. they're not in the marketplace. they're state funded , they're funded us. funded, they're funded by us. the licence fee payers, and they are accountable to us when they are accountable to us when they are spending that kind money. are spending that kind of money. they competing with sky they are not competing with sky anditv they are not competing with sky and itv because sky and itv and gb news, we all have to raise revenue so that we can survive. whereas the bbc get that money. otherwise people go to jail. so i put it to you that actually he shouldn't be paid that of shouldn't be paid that sort of money. renew money. whether they renew his contract know, contract or not, you know, whether they think he should . whether they think he should. >> what think the >> what do you think the presenters be paid then? presenters should be paid then? >> work for you.
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>> they should work for you. >> they should work for you. >> people if they >> you won't get people if they if you don't pay them a rate. and actually, argue it's and actually, i'd argue it's probably he could probably less than what he could get has taken a pay get because he has taken a pay cut past. get because he has taken a pay cut so past. get because he has taken a pay cut so it's past. get because he has taken a pay cut so it's less than what he >> so it's less than what he could have. >> could get somewhere >> he could get somewhere else. >> he could get somewhere else. >> for a fact. so >> we know that for a fact. so basically, is the rate basically, what is the rate somebody has to set a rate, don't they? >> whether not you >> so it's whether or not you feel worth it. feel he's worth it. >> won't pay it and >> maybe they won't pay it and they'll else. they'll go with somebody else. >> of the matter is >> but the fact of the matter is he's asks for a rate. he's he asks for a rate. >> they decide to pay it whether they that, whether we think they want that, whether we think that's right or is to that's right or wrong is down to the broadcaster who thinks, can we live without gary lineker doing day at the moment? >> and decided they want >> and they decided they want well, get at least >> and they decided they want wellof get at least >> and they decided they want wellof him get at least >> and they decided they want wellof him in get at least >> and they decided they want wellof him in thatt at least >> and they decided they want wellof him in that moneyst >> and they decided they want wellof him in that money and five of him in that money and they'll be plenty of people who'd than happy to take who'd be more than happy to take a fifth of that. who'd be more than happy to take a fi so of that. who'd be more than happy to take a fi so if that. who'd be more than happy to take a fi so i would question the bbc >> so i would question the bbc on because the bbc on that because the bbc shouldn't in the market to shouldn't be in the market to compete with the other broadcasters. they're to broadcasters. they're there to provide and they provide a service and they provide a service and they provide and we provide a service to us and we determine how good that service is is is and all he is doing is presenting on tv. he may presenting a show on tv. he may have people keep he's got have people keep saying he's got great so have i. i
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great analysis, but so have i. i mean, 1.35 million of licence fee payer money. you know, a lot of people will be looking in there saying we're struggling to even licence. so why even pay the licence. so why should person get so much should one person get so much money? absurd . money? it is absurd. >> surely that side of it i hear where you're coming from. >> speaking of on a personal basis, exactly where you're coming from on that side it. basis, exactly where you're conit|g from on that side it. basis, exactly where you're conit does.n on that side it. basis, exactly where you're conit does. it)n that side it. basis, exactly where you're conit does. it is that side it. basis, exactly where you're conit does. it is aiat side it. basis, exactly where you're conit does. it is a lot;ide it. basis, exactly where you're conit does. it is a lot of; it. >> it does. it is a lot of money. there's no getting around that. >> the fact the matter is, >> the fact of the matter is, though, they are no matter what, no how don't, no matter how much they don't, would be necessarily would not want to be necessarily in the marketplace. >> in a marketplace >> you're still in a marketplace because got to hire because you've got to hire somebody because a somebody because he's a freelancer. it's not freelancer. remember it's not his job. his only job. >> got to make sure >> so they've got to make sure that tie down for that they can tie him down for a couple of days, a week or whatever it on a contract whatever it is on a contract that's that's all subjective. >> you that. >> i'm with you on that. >> i'm with you on that. >> very subjective and >> it's very subjective and depending on what your budget is, you wouldn't is, maybe, maybe you wouldn't spend it comes to spend it. but when it comes to football sports, that all football and sports, that we all know some the basic some know that some of the basic some of basic thoughts and of the basic thoughts and decency around economics to decency around economics seem to go out the window. and that's the presenters as well. >> that's that's fair enough . >> that's that's fair enough. but are commercial but they are commercial entities, the bbc is
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entities, whereas the bbc is a state owned entity, which we all pay state owned entity, which we all pay for. and i think the bbc need to ask themselves questions as to whether how relevant gary is to that particular show anyway , soon as when he was anyway, soon as when he was suspended , it got better viewers suspended, it got better viewers and a viewing figures. and i also know that there are plenty of really good broadcasters who could probably do that job, some of them probably better than gary, but they're not being given the chance. and surely that's more of role of the that's more of the role of the bbc introducing lots of bbc to be introducing lots of new talent ? new talent? >> well, i would argue i suppose they do , because you watch they do, because if you watch match two, there are match of the day two, there are different who present match of the day two, there are differe of who present match of the day two, there are differe of the who present match of the day two, there are differe of the day. 'ho present match of the day two, there are diffthere'sie day. 'ho present match of the day two, there are diffthere's gabby'ho present match of the day two, there are diffthere's gabby yorathsent >> there's gabby yorath presented at times. then you've got mohammed, then got jason mohammed, then you've got jason mohammed, then you've got was it called chappers, mark chapman, whatever i think he's called. >> so then you've got and, and i think there's been quite few think there's been quite a few people. he's only people. so he's not the only presenter. it's decision presenter. it's a decision they've taken and i think i understand exactly where you're coming from, but it's very subjective. >> but you all do you, do you think and finally, do you think the public have a little the public should have a little bit on seeing as
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bit of a say on that, seeing as we're for it? we we're paying for it? and if we don't do it, we go to prison? we're paying for it? and if we dorwell, it, we go to prison? we're paying for it? and if we dorwell, i, we go to prison? we're paying for it? and if we dorwell, i thinkjo to prison? we're paying for it? and if we dorwell, i think thereirison? we're paying for it? and if we dorwell, i think there are n? >> well, i think there are serious conversations to be had about the licence fee. i do. that's to the gary that's separate to the gary lineker conversation. >> speaking purely on lineker conversation. >.personal speaking purely on lineker conversation. >.personal basis, eaking purely on lineker conversation. >.personal basis, not ng purely on a personal basis, not representing anybody. i think we have conversations about have to have conversations about the licence fee. >> remember, actually >> remember, it's not actually technically bbc, it's technically for the bbc, it's for the ability to watch live broadcast. >> so even if you wanted to watch gb news live, you'd need a licence fee to do that. so the licence fee to do that. so the licence , but they get the money, licence, but they get the money, then the bbc gets the vast, vast , vast bulk of the money. >> i agree with you. so how it's spent and where it's spent, i think that will something think that will be something that reviewed over the that will be reviewed over the next few because it next few years because it doesn't necessarily mean how it's the it's always been spent for the last does it mean last hundred years, does it mean that's how it should be spent going forward? that's how it should be spent goiii] forward? that's how it should be spent goii|]f01’viy0u. aqeel ahmed, that's how it should be spent goiii] you you. aqeel ahmed, that's how it should be spent goiii] you son. aqeel ahmed, that's how it should be spent goiii] you so muchzl ahmed, that's how it should be spent goiii] you so much for.hmed, that's how it should be spent goiii] you so much for talking to thank you so much for talking to me. you're watching and listening to gb coming up, listening to gb news. coming up, could using the word policeman soon be a criminal offence? find out about this madness in out all about this madness in just a few moments. time i'm a queer on news britain's news
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people's. channel >> welcome . welcome on board gb >> welcome. welcome on board gb news the people's channel. i'm nana akua. now staffordshire police have been criticised after publishing a guide that warns officers not to use words such as yes, police man and man up or otherwise. they risk breaking the law . former breaking the law. former metropolitan police detective chief inspector perry benton
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joins me now. perry what do you make of this ? make of this? >> i mean, i think this is ridiculous. i think this is political correctness gone wrong. i mean, thousand words, if not millions of people have grown up using the policeman and i think for this report to come out and now say that they have to be considerate around using the phrase police officer or if they're talking about de—man person , not using the phrase person, not using the phrase cleaning lady and cleaner. i just think these are correctness gone wrong. >> you must hear this and just think, on god , because, you think, on god, because, you know, there was the chanting from the river to the sea. there were all these marches where people are saying things that are potentially offensive to others. that others. yes yet words that we use in everyday language are turning into to illegal things . turning into to illegal things. surely the police have more time, plenty of time to do other things. do you not feel they're wasting their time on this ? wasting their time on this? >> 100? i think the police have enough to worry about rather
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than worrying about what exact language they use in these sorts of situations. i don't think the pubuc of situations. i don't think the public would expect police officers to be concerned with using the phrase policeman . i using the phrase policeman. i mean, we have thousands of police officers throughout the country . and if a young person country. and if a young person saw a policeman on the street, i'd expect them to say hello. you know , or the parents say, you know, or the parents say, look, there goes a nice policeman. i think the police have enough to out in keeping society safe , keeping the public society safe, keeping the public safe worrying about what safe than worrying about what language should use. language they should use. >> not feel like >> this does not feel like a lack understanding well, lack of understanding as well, because word man because obviously the word man doesn't mean it's doesn't necessarily mean it's male. comes from mankind and male. it comes from mankind and human, is what we are . human, which is what we are. we're humans. so that's why one man is of man, as a man man is a form of man, as a man is a man. but i i'm just wondering what this sends out to people who are hearing the police spend all this time on this sort of thing. yet when it comes to policing so—called hate marches, it seems okay. >> exactly. i think you know, this report is obviously don't
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forget, this is by one police force. and this is obviously a report that they wanted to pubush report that they wanted to publish sort of guidance to their staff on way they their staff on the way that they sort themselves in sort of conduct themselves in public. necessarily public. i don't necessarily think representative of think this is representative of every force in uk . every police force in the uk. and say, i think the and like i say, i think the pubuc and like i say, i think the public expect police public would expect our police service to do the best they can to keep the streets safe, to arrest criminals where their offences are committed and not to sort of be overly worried about language use and about the language they use and whether or not it's going to be lawful. i mean, we're talking about this is about whether this is discrimination through language, about whether this is discrimirit's)n through language, about whether this is discrimirit's intended] language, about whether this is discrimirit's intended] l(cause|e, whether it's intended to cause offence. and i think, like i say, public would expect our say, our public would expect our officers overly officers not to be overly concerned with the language and usually their the best usually do their job to the best of ability. usually do their job to the best of can ability. usually do their job to the best of can you ity. usually do their job to the best of can you imagine somebody >> can you imagine somebody going a crime then by going to report a crime then by accident calling the police officer man and then officer a police man and then being arrested that for being arrested for that for their language ? i mean, their use of language? i mean, it is totally absurd. perry it's absolutely ridiculous . it's absolutely ridiculous. it's absolutely ridiculous. it's absolutely ridiculous. >> i don't think and i hope we never situation again . never situation again. >> i don't think we'll ever get
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in that situation. hopefully >> yeah. well, perry, lovely to talk to you. that's perry benton. he's a police detective, former metropolitan police detective and chief inspector. right. is gb news. we are right. this is gb news. we are the people's channel, the fabulous dewberry fabulous michelle dewberry is here. love here. you look fabulous. i love that outfit. >> door. i've been sat down for about seconds how i've about three seconds and how i've managed such a mess managed to make such a mess already me . i really already is beyond me. i really don't know. but anyway, yes , i'm don't know. but anyway, yes, i'm very it's friday very happy that it's friday because that means that juburi is open on program at the end is open on my program at the end and i'll be getting stuck into that story that you've just been covering because covering as well, because it's just isn't lots just ridiculous, isn't it? lots of stuff coming up as well just ridiculous, isn't it? lots of leastjff coming up as well just ridiculous, isn't it? lots of least rwanda. g up as well just ridiculous, isn't it? lots of least rwanda. i up as well just ridiculous, isn't it? lots of least rwanda. i wants well just ridiculous, isn't it? lots of least rwanda. i want to 'ell , not least rwanda. i want to talk about i want to talk about that and i want to explore kind of benefit explore this kind of benefit situation not situation about whether or not people more people should be punished more for not going into work when they're on benefits, but also council tax nana. so many places now, not reached valued now, they've not reached valued their properties in terms of the rates sometimes for rates that we pay sometimes for decades. rates that we pay sometimes for decades . is it rates that we pay sometimes for decades. is it time that rates that we pay sometimes for decades . is it time that these decades. is it time that these properties get revalued? >> well, a lot of people won't like that, but indeed , indeed. like that, but indeed, indeed. but listen, michelle, michelle is on the way next. thank you so
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much. tuned for the much. stay tuned for the fabulous michelle dewberry. listen between listen i'm back tomorrow between three and make sure you three and six. make sure you join there. got some join me there. we've got some great way and great debates on the way and patrick be live at patrick christys will be live at 9:00. this is gb news more to come with michelle and dewbs& co afternoon . afternoon. >> i'm alex deakin. this is your latest weather update from the met office. four gb news after a fine friday. for most the weather is on the change again. rain is returning and it'll be a soggy start tomorrow. but by the afternoon most places will brighten again. pressure brighten up again. low pressure is in already spreading is edging in already spreading into the south—west of england, south wales and northern ireland ahead of it actually turning quite this evening. could quite cold this evening. could be pockets across be some pockets of frost across northern scotland . but as the northern scotland. but as the wet weather arrives, it will turn milder. that rain could wet weather arrives, it will turn na der. that rain could wet weather arrives, it will turn na bit. that rain could wet weather arrives, it will turn na bit ofhat rain could wet weather arrives, it will turn na bit of disruptionjld cause a bit of disruption through northern through parts of northern ireland, south wales and southwest england, where we have met warnings in place. met office warnings in place. these are the minimum temperatures, will temperatures, but these will be quite in evening. quite early in the evening. i think morning time. the think by morning time. the temperatures little temperatures will be a little bit this rain is bit higher because this rain is bringing mild air, but it will be soggy start. a lot of
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be a very soggy start. a lot of spray and water the spray and surface water on the roads wales roads for south wales and south—west england, but most places on places starting damp on saturday, most places also brightening up the rain clears away the east. by lunchtime away to the east. by lunchtime we'll keep some showers going over western scotland and northern but many northern ireland, but many places turning brighter. although kent may hang on to the rain into the afternoon, rain well into the afternoon, temperatures again pretty mild for the time of year where it brightens up. we could easily get 14, 15, maybe 16, but feeling the wind feeling cooler with the wind windier on sunday, windier again on sunday, particularly across the south, very blustery lots of very blustery here, lots of cloud around, fairly frequent showers and going. may showers coming and going. may stay dry in eastern scotland and there'll be some brighter spells elsewhere. but generally a cloudy with some showers, cloudy day with some showers, again, mild , but feeling again, quite mild, but feeling cooler wind
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in issued and what do you think it's all about? the fact perhaps that you can actually arrest people stomping all over war memorials or maybe that i don't know, it might not be the best idea to have two tier policing, etcetera, etcetera. don't be ridiculous . etcetera, etcetera. don't be ridiculous. no, of etcetera, etcetera. don't be ridiculous . no, of course not. ridiculous. no, of course not. it's about which words to in it's about which words to use in order avoid causing offence. order to avoid causing offence. give me strength . yes indeed. give me strength. yes indeed. we'll be getting stuck into all of that. of course. it's friday jubilee tavern opens and tonight, joining the panel, i've got a new face. we like those, don't we? but before we get stuck in, let's cross live for tonight's news headlines .
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