labour mp stephen pound. looking mean there. stephen but before we get started , let's get your we get started, let's get your latest news headlines with . latest news headlines with. aaron very good afternoon to you. >> it's 3:00 i'm aaron armstrong in the gb newsroom. israel's ambassador to the us says he's hopeful a significant number of hostages will be released by hamas in the coming days. his comments come after the qatari prime minister indicated earlier only minor logistical issues stand in the way of a hostage release deal. although israel's leader , benjamin netanyahu, leader, benjamin netanyahu, insists nothing has been agreed . insists nothing has been agreed. qatar, which is home to many hamas leaders, has played a key role in mediation throughout the conflict . more than 200 hostages conflict. more than 200 hostages were taken by hamas on the 7th of october. so far, four have been released. one has been rescued and dozens have been killed . the chancellor says the killed. the chancellor says the government is acting responsibly amid suggestions tax cuts will be announced in next week's autumn. statement but jeremy hunt told gb news he won't

introduce any kind of measure that risks fuelling inflation after it was halved over the past now it's been widely past year. now it's been widely reported cuts to inheritance and income tax are being considered income tax are being considered in effort to boost the in an effort to boost the economy. but the chancellor insists week's statement economy. but the chancellor insisfocus week's statement economy. but the chancellor insisfocus week's st we're nt economy. but the chancellor insisfocus week's st we're not will focus on growth. we're not going to do anything irresponsible , all particularly irresponsible, all particularly by which i mean anything that fuels inflation because we had a big victory last week when we delivered the prime minister's pledge to halve inflation. >> when he and i came to office, it was over 11. now it's 4.6. people watching at home, their number one concern, they say in poll after poll, is the cost of living crisis . this makes living crisis. this makes a difference. so we're going to do this response ably. >> well , this response ably. >> well, labour have warned cutting inheritance tax while squeezing the welfare system dunng squeezing the welfare system during a cost of living crisis would be wrong . and shadow chief would be wrong. and shadow chief secretary to the treasury darren jones, says he wants to know how any cuts will be paid for. >> we've in the labour >> we've said in the labour party that the party that we want the tax burden come down on working

burden to come down on working people. the highest has people. it's the highest it has been world war. been since the second world war. we've tax we've had 25 conservative tax rises in this parliament alone, but we can only announce those tax cuts when they can be fully funded. and if the chancellor is going to announce a tax cut on wednesday, we're going be wednesday, we're going to be looking been to looking at how he's been able to get the money to pay for that to happen. >> people are to prepared >> people who are to prepared live electricity pylons live near new electricity pylons could stand to benefit by up to £10,000 over a decade. the government is set to announce the move to overcome planning objections and up the objections and speed up the approval energy approval of new energy infrastructure. the current estimate is that we'll take 14 years home owners could get £1,000 per year off their household bills , although the household bills, although the treasury hasn't specified where the money will come from . a the money will come from. a woman who acted as a fixer for people smugglers has been jailed for seven and a half years. 32 year old jessica , who who's from year old jessica, who who's from albania, helped arrange small boat crossings from france to the uk for albanian nationals. she was arrested at her home in

oxfordshire last year and will be deported upon her release from prison . 700,000 pupils in from prison. 700,000 pupils in england are still being taught in poorly maintained or potentially unsafe buildings because of crumbling concrete. the public accounts committee says it's limiting students educational achievements in its report, the cross—party group described a shocking lack of detail from the department of education, meaning the true scale of the crisis remains a mystery. the government says its rebuilding programme is proceeding ahead of schedule . a proceeding ahead of schedule. a conservative mp found guilty of racial abuse has announced he's standing down at the next election. bob stewart racially abused a man after telling him to go back to bahrain. outside the foreign office last december . he surrendered the tory whip while appealing against the conviction. the mp for beckenham made no reference to the recent case, but said it had been an honour a privilege to serve honour and a privilege to serve flight restrictions are in place at heathrow airport amid strong winds and staff shortages .

winds and staff shortages. national air traffic services says it's working to minimise disruption at the uk's busiest airport. there have been reports from angry passengers on social media, with people complaining of long delays and cancellations as passengers are advised to check with their airline before heading to the airport. >> many buses and electric vehicles have been sent to albania as part of a deal to return foreign prisoners. >> the arrangement will see 200 albanian national currently jailed in england and wales sent back home for the rest of their sentence . the uk has also agreed sentence. the uk has also agreed to help modernise albania's prison system. the overall deal is expected to cost around £8 million. the government says that will save money for britain's prisons . we are live britain's prisons. we are live across the uk on tv, on digital radio. if you want us on your smart speaker, say play gb news. now it's back to nana . now it's back to nana. >> thank you, aaron. good afternoon. if you've just joined me, i'm nana akua. this is gb

news. we are the people's channel. coming up, the chancellor says that the government is acting responsibly over tax cuts ahead of next week's autumn statement . week's autumn statement. speaking to camilla tominey here on gb news, jeremy hunt vowed to show that the uk is on the path to a lower tax economy and promised to promote growth in his statement, but stop short of explaining how this would be achieved then it's time achieved and then it's time to u—turn on ulez. well, we hope. apparently the london mayor, sadiq khan , misled the public sadiq khan, misled the public about the benefits of ulez in radio and newspaper advertisements, particularly on the extent at which the ulez zone would clear the air up with clear up the air quality . now clear up the air quality. now thatis clear up the air quality. now that is according to a leaked draft report seen by the telegraph . so is it time to telegraph. so is it time to u—turn on ulez.7 i'll be going head to head in a clash of minds with stephen pound and ben habib in just a moment. also do you trust the government to do what it takes to stop the boats after a damning supreme court ruling that government's that the government's rwanda plan .7 sunak says

plan is unlawful? sunak says that committed to the that he remains committed to the course, which could see flights take off by the spring, but do you actually trust him? do you think they're going to do that? and the next think they're going to do that? and election? the next think they're going to do that? and election? andthe next think they're going to do that? and election? and then ext think they're going to do that? and election? and then have general election? and then have pro—palestine protests become a fashion trend ? throughout the fashion trend? throughout the last few weeks, we've seen more protesters take to the streets chanting for palestine , free chanting for palestine, free palestine. we've seen from the river to the sea. we've also witnessed pupils in schools across britain take part in a school strike for palestine . but school strike for palestine. but do these younger generation actually know exactly what they're protesting for? or is it actually a classic case of virtue signalling? i'm asking that today. so have pro—palestine protests become a fashion trend ? and then finally, fashion trend? and then finally, another strike? yes. should the striking railway workers get back to work? for goodness sake? train drivers are set to stage a fresh round of strikes as they've announced a rolling programme of walkouts as part of more than a year long dispute over pay that has seen the trade union negotiate with two different prime ministers with

rishi sunak being the third. so is it time for them just to get back to work? coming up, all of that and then i've got a mystery outside guest. now, here are some clues that lead some clues that could lead you to is politician who to him. he is a politician who comes from an important family in british politics, particularly northern particularly in northern ireland. now, he was named after his he's also followed his father. he's also followed his father. he's also followed his made his footsteps, which has made quite name for himself, quite a big name for himself, campaigning heavily against cancel culture. find out at five. that's coming up on five. that's all coming up on the show as ever. tell me what you think on everything we're discussing. and discussing. email gb views and gbnews.com or tweet me at . gb gbnews.com or tweet me at. gb views. right. so i was just coming up to eight minutes after 3:00. i can hear you shouting at the tv as though you know who the tv as though you know who the outside guest is. you might be wrong. i think we all know. no, he is. no, be quiet. be quiet. you haven't been introduced yet. >> oh, sorry. >> oh, sorry. >> forgive me . >> forgive me. >> forgive me. >> right. now it's time to >> right. well, now it's time to go head a clash of go head to head in a clash of minds with deputy leader the minds with deputy leader of the reform habib , and

reform party, ben habib, and also the former mp stephen pound, whose dulcet tones you could hear. >> then dullest the word >> then dullest is the word you're for. you're looking for. >> was being polite. you're looking for. >> that's was being polite. you're looking for. >> that's a was being polite. you're looking for. >> that's a first.; being polite. >> that's a first. >> that's a first. >> it is, isn't it? >> that's why it's unusual for me. be my new wig. me. it must be my new wig. right. start i right. well let's start with i wish say the same. wish i could say the same. >> well, i can get you one. >> well, i can get you one. >> i've got plenty of them, you know. should we all vote to get stephen in my wigs? stephen in one of my wigs? i could. fair, i could do with >> to be fair, i could do with one. >> i he probably quite >> i think he probably quite like to honest. it's not >> i think he probably quite like kind honest. it's not >> i think he probably quite like kind show, st. it's not >> i think he probably quite like kind show, stephen,t >> i think he probably quite like kind show, stephen, but that kind of show, stephen, but the let's start with the chancellor, let's start with no rupaul. let's start with the first chancellor, no rupaul. let's start with the first hunt, chancellor, no rupaul. let's start with the first hunt, chathe.lor, no rupaul. let's start with the first hunt, chathe economic jeremy hunt, says the economic growth for the growth is a priority for the government as we await his fiscal next now, fiscal plan next week. now, jeremy won't jeremy hunt says that he won't introduce kind of measure introduce any kind of measure that risks fuelling inflation after was halved the after it was halved over the past year and says that the government will act responsibly . government will act responsibly. he that tax he amid suggestions that tax cuts will be announced in the autumn statement. now here's what gb news earlier on. what he told gb news earlier on. >> freezing these tax bands. you can't be happy about the idea of people on 40,000 or above. some of them might be teachers, some

of them might be teachers, some of them might be teachers, some of them might be nurses actually being fiscally dragged into paying being fiscally dragged into paying tax . it's a stealth paying more tax. it's a stealth tax needs to stop, tax and it needs to stop, doesn't it ? we doesn't it? we >> well, good morning, camilla. obviously i'm not going to talk about the measures that i'm going to be announcing to parliament on wednesday because i announce to i have to announce those to parliament rightly so. parliament first and rightly so. but is a very big dividing but there is a very big dividing line between us and the labour party on tax. and i'm really pleased you've mentioned it because that if because i do believe that if we're going to be a dynamic, thriving young, energetic, thriving, young, energetic, fizzing economy, we need low tax and we need taxes to be lower than they are at the moment. and the reason i believe that is if you look around the world and the dynamic, successful the most dynamic, successful economies moment are in economies at the moment are in nonh economies at the moment are in north and asia, where north america and asia, where they tend to lower taxes. they tend to have lower taxes. so i do our tax burden . they tend to have lower taxes. so i do our tax burden. i'm only going to do it in a our tax burden is the highest since the second world war. >> i mean, i'm people watching this chancellor will be staring at the television and listening to the radio in disbelief. >> taxes have never been higher

than under this conservative government. you talk about laboun government. you talk about labour. there was polling in the mail yesterday that mail yesterday to suggest that most this country now most people in this country now think labour are the party think that labour are the party of economic competence . of economic competence. >> well, the truth is and you know, there's no getting around this taxes have gone up in nearly all countries and our taxes are still lower than places like france, germany and italy because we've had a once in a century pandemic, a 1970s style oil shock. but the difference is that we do want to bnng difference is that we do want to bring them down in and labour put up taxes in every single one of their 13 budgets concert lives, cut taxes when we responsibly can. so let me tell you, i'm not going to tell you what measures i'm going to do, but let me tell you my approach. first of all, we're not going to do anything irresponsible putting by which i mean anything that fuels inflation, because we had a big victory last week when we delivered the prime minister's pledge to halve inflation when he and i came to

office, it was over 11. now it's 4.6. people watching at home, their number one concern, they say, in poll after poll, is the cost of living crisis. this makes a difference . s so we're makes a difference. s so we're going to do this responsibly. >> well, that was jeremy hunt speaking to camilla tominey earlier on her show on gb news. so let's start with jeremy , so let's start with jeremy, deputy leader of the reform party, ben habib , and also party, ben habib, and also former labour mp stephen pound. we're going head to head in a clash of minds. what do you make of jeremy's comments? >> well, it's hard not have >> well, it's hard not to have a head full of expletives listening to what jeremy hunt was saying. there are at least two implicit lies in what he was saying. the first is that the government won't act irresponsibly , as if cutting irresponsibly, as if cutting taxes and giving us the ability to choose how we spend our money is acting irresponsibly. >> the presumption being, of course, that he thinks the government can spend our money better than we can and i'm afraid this government has no

track record of spending money well under their watch, under rishi sunak's watch. >> who watch? who is now prime minister, was chancellor of the exchequer at the national exchequer at the time national debt up by more in two debt went up by more in two years than we had national debt in all of time up to 2005. highly irresponsible and but you could say that there were some things that happened. >> for example , we had >> for example, we had a pandemic, didn't we? there's been a war. we had we saw the pandemic. >> it was lockdowns . let's just >> it was lockdowns. let's just add that. >> i'm saying, yeah , yeah, but >> i'm saying, yeah, yeah, but but okay, i could use the word lockdown or pandemic, but i'm talking they handled talking about how they handled it. was an it. yeah, but that was an unusual thing happen. it. yeah, but that was an unlit|al thing happen. it. yeah, but that was an unlit was. ing happen. it. yeah, but that was an unlit was. and happen. it. yeah, but that was an unlit was. and ithappen. it. yeah, but that was an unlit was. and ithappa1. it. yeah, but that was an unlit was. and ithappa very >> it was. and it was a very unusual thing to lock us up extremely . it stripped us not extremely. it stripped us not just of our civil rights, but it created this financial problem with which we are now grappling . with which we are now grappling. and everyone, a lot of people, not everyone, a lot of people, including myself, warned at the time that lockdowns would have this damaging effect on the economy. so when they talk about

acting this acting responsibly, this government incredibly government has acted incredibly irresponsibly with the economy to date. it depends if you are looking at lockdown, because some people would that some people would say that lockdown many lives. lockdown saved many lives. >> that's what some would >> that's what some people would say. there was obviously an adverse it . so is adverse effect to it. so is that irresponsible? it costs them a lot of money. but what are you defining as responsible, responsible to them as a government probably saving government is probably saving the this and the people of this country. and obviously , as a result, it ended obviously, as a result, it ended up costing well, the average age. >> i mean, we're going to get into discussion over covid now, but the average of death but the average age of death from exceeded. the from covid is exceeded. the average expectancy in this average life expectancy in this country. it was never a disease that was going to impact the broader population . we knew that broader population. we knew that at the beginning . no, we did. we at the beginning. no, we did. we did. we knew that at the beginning party to some other information . information. >> what did you know that , >> what what did you know that, you know, it was clear right from the start. >> and i wrote articles back in march 2020. so saying that this is something that affects the elderly and forget about what i was saying, the great, but the

great barrington, the great barrington declaration. i don't want to get drawn into let's quickly talk about it. but the great barrington declaration, which was a report put out by 4000 leading epidemiologist. which was a report put out by 4000 leading epidemiologist . and 4000 leading epidemiologist. and doctors across the globe and allocated for the isolation of the vulnerable , ill and the the vulnerable, ill and the elderly as the correct pandemic response. and it was thrown out of court by the government . and of court by the government. and as a result, we got lockdowns . as a result, we got lockdowns. and as a result of lockdowns, we got furlough. and with furlough and government and all the government expenditure , which was expenditure, which was profligate highly profligate and highly irresponsible, a lot of it wasted, resulting in the in the resignation in 2020, january 2022 of lord agnew, who was minister of for state the treasury, resulting in his resignation because of the inability of government to actually avoid fraud being perpetrated against it. so i would say this government has been incredibly irresponsible with our money. >> i would say, on the level of fraud and the fact that they

didn't really just didn't really they just literally at literally chucked money at anyone. also lot of their anyone. and also a lot of their friends are saying, i would say they've been extremely irresponsible. but i would refute whole thing with refute the whole thing with regard to lockdown, because at the a lot of people didn't the time, a lot of people didn't know, but most countries did, that. >> can $- that. >> can we stop looking >> can can we stop looking backwards just look forwards? powell can we forwards >> powell can we look forwards to why we're to what the reason why we're looking back? >> nub of the >> no, no. the nub of the question yeah, the reason question is, yeah, the reason why we're looking backwards is because of the comment was because of the comment that was made by jeremy. >> haven't >> absolutely right. i haven't quite but quite finished my answer. but anyway, no, no argument. look, look, the reality is the chancellor headroom. >> you know, receipts have >> you know, the receipts have actually better than actually been rather better than anticipated. and never anticipated. and there's never been my life when at been a time in my life when at the month, i've the end of the month, i've actually had look bank actually had a look at my bank account i've a few account and say, i've got a few bob spare. what should bob to spare. what should i spend it on? he has now got a choice. he can actually build the prisons, which he's promised. actually build promised. he can actually build a proper reception centre for asylum could asylum seekers. he could actually could actually cut vat. he could actually cut vat. he could actually do so things that actually do so many things that would be beneficial to would actually be beneficial to the country. i think tax cuts would thing at would not be a sensible thing at the and from what the present time and from what i gather, talking gather, he's actually talking about tax . but about cutting business tax. but

i'd some capital i'd like to see some capital projects , things really projects, things that we really need. anyone who says spending on the no , not until we've on the nhs no, not until we've reformed nhs. this is the reformed the nhs. this is the black but what about black hole. but what about schools rebuilt. we schools need to be rebuilt. we need prisons . there's need to build prisons. there's so much capital work which actually work and actually creates work and actually creates work and actually a growth actually engenders a growth in the should be doing the economy. he should be doing that. but he's shown a bit of leg, isn't he? he's doing a little bit of you know, there may some tax cuts to excite may be some tax cuts to excite us all. much doubt that us all. i very much doubt that we'll actually see anything that us all. i very much doubt that we'l affectilly see anything that us all. i very much doubt that we'l affectilly massivelying that us all. i very much doubt that we'l affectilly massivelyingthe ll will affect us massively in the course of our lives. it'll be periphery. be on the edge. periphery. it'll be on the edge. it'll stuff he'll it'll be that stuff that he'll come that can come out with that they can actually to. whether actually refer to. but whether it's going to satisfy ben or you or more importantly, the or me or more importantly, the people conservative people who did vote conservative and vote and are not going to vote conservative very much conservative again, i very much doubt finished point. doubt finished your point. >> was just going to say >> well, i was just going to say the other the other implicit lie in he saying was that in what he was saying was that it's government's job to it's the government's job to control one control inflation on the one hand, telling us it's hand, they keep telling us it's the job to the central bank's job to do that. should stay out of that. they should stay out of it. and now he uses it as it. and now he he uses it as a stick to beat the electorate with if it's some kind of

with as if it's some kind of virtuous position to take, not to allow us to spend our money as if we would be more profligate with our money than the government would be. they spend over fist, and spend money hand over fist, and i disagree, i'm i completely disagree, i'm afraid. forgive afraid. stephen. sorry. forgive me. first time me. that's all. the first time that they be doing more that they should be doing more capital projects. desperately that they should be doing more capitttax'ojects. desperately that they should be doing more capitttax cuts:s. desperately that they should be doing more capitttax cuts .. desperately that they should be doing more capitttax cuts . we desperately that they should be doing more capitttax cuts . we needierately that they should be doing more capitttax cuts . we need it.itely that they should be doing more capitttax cuts . we need it. we! need tax cuts. we need it. we need tax cuts. we need it. we needit need tax cuts. we need it. we need it for small and medium sized businesses. we need it for corporations and we need it for the working and middle classes. and it's critical. that's why we've got a broken labour force. we've got 6.2 people on we've got 6.2 million people on universal credit to a greater or less extent because the labour force is broken because it doesn't pay to work. and the gap between benefits and net pay is just too small . we've got to just too small. we've got to increase that gap and you can do it instantly by cutting the taxes on the working middle classes . classes. >> you say that they'll spend money better than us. some people spend money very badly. i know some exes who were like that and my money. so to that and it was my money. so to be ooh no, i don't think be fair. ooh no, i don't think you can make that as a problem.

>> i grant you an excess. probably worse than the government, but it's, you know, it's marginal. but don't forget, ben, a lot of people on ben, a lot of people are on universal credit are actually working working. working and they are working. >> but is, they're >> but but the fact is, they're working subsistence wage. working on a subsistence wage. yes we need yes and that's why we need tax cuts. stephen for working cuts. stephen for the working and classes, for the and middle classes, not for the rich, working middle classes. well, we'll see what he does >> well, we'll see what he does on wednesday. so we'll find out what does what jeremy hunt does on wednesday, whether it's for wednesday, whether it's good for you, know what you you, get us let us know what you would gb views would like him to do. gb views gbnews.com. now it's time to would like him to do. gb views gbi\turn com. now it's time to would like him to do. gb views gbi\turn on 1. now it's time to would like him to do. gb views gbi\turn on ulez. now it's time to would like him to do. gb views gbi\turn on ulez. isw it's time to would like him to do. gb views gbi\turn on ulez. is it?t's time to would like him to do. gb views gbi\turn on ulez. is it? do time to would like him to do. gb views gbi\turn on ulez. is it? do you to you turn on ulez. is it? do you think? now a draft report seen by telegraph has revealed by the telegraph has revealed that housing that the adverts housing watchdog to criticise watchdog is set to criticise sadiq khan for misleading the pubuc sadiq khan for misleading the public on the benefits of ulez , public on the benefits of ulez, which were advertised on radio and , and for and television, and for particularly the particularly misleading the extent to which ulez expansion reduced pollution. now we all knew that what he was saying wasn't quite correct because we found that out early. so i'm wondering them so wondering why it took them so long to acknowledge that his advertising was somewhat misleading. asking , is it misleading. so i'm asking, is it time a u—turn ulez time for a u—turn on ulez things? it doesn't sound like it

does that says on the does anything that says on the tin, let's see what my head head is. make of that. i'm joined by deputy the reform deputy leader of the reform party, the former party, ben habib, and the former labour stephen labour mp stephen pound. stephen i've defender of i've been a great defender of bofis i've been a great defender of boris ulez you know , boris johnson's ulez you know, well he didn't support well not, but he didn't support the expansion. >> no, no. okay boris, that was grant shapps admittedly. but you know, been a great know, i've been a great supporter of the conservative huw when the, huw thomas. however, when the, when saint mary, the queen when the saint mary, the queen mary college data came out a while ago, i must admit i started to have look started to have doubts. look i hope that we'd all agree that ulez in central london. it ulez works in central london. it works in the appalling, congested and i you congested the innocent and i you know, i live in ealing. you know, i live in ealing. you know, i live in ealing. you know, i in the in the outer know, i live in the in the outer zone. know, not zone. you know, we're not necessarily leafy, you know, but we are we are in the outer zone. and i've been defending this because looked like because on paper it looked like the petrol, seat the lead in petrol, the seat belts, all the arguments about where in where people stopping smoking in pubuc where people stopping smoking in public where people on an public places where people on an individual says want individual basis says we want the do this, but in the the right to do this, but in the greater nation, we greater for good the nation, we probably do it. however probably had to do it. however if data hooky , then if this data is hooky, then we've got a real problem. we've got profound serious got a profound and serious

problem and i think that, you know, sadiq khan , he's not going know, sadiq khan, he's not going to completely dogmatic about to be completely dogmatic about this the incorrect , this if the data is incorrect, he has no choice. the elections are up may. simply are coming up in may. he simply has to accept it because it will be perceived that a be perceived that this is a money grab . money grab. >> that's what i mean. >> that's what i mean. >> like, unfortunately, tfl does actually also actually need the money and also they how? how they need an extra. how? how much? 80 £800,000 to replace the ulez that the angle grinder gangs the middle of about gangs in the middle of about a thousand of you can't you can't buy angle and being buy an angle grinder and being around way now there's around my way now there's a waiting for but look waiting list for them but look the if the data is the reality is if the data is wrong then and if the facts are wrong, then you have to change your mind. wrong, then you have to change youi mind. wrong, then you have to change youi don't know whether i've not >> i don't know whether i've not seen his mind. seen he ever change his mind. in fact, if you disagree, i remember him calling us all far right. >> so again , actually, i'm going >> so again, actually, i'm going to say we knew this at the beginning. we did, yes. tfl produces a live digital map of air quality across greater and central london. and with the exception of the congestion charge zone, this map, which is updated every day, it's real time map shows the entirety of

london to have good air quality with the exception of the congestion charge zone, which is orange. the rest of it is either green or blue. so by his own mapping that goes out every day, he has known from the beginning that air quality a that air quality is not a problem. we also know not just the not just from the telegraph's article of advertising standards report, but from leaked information that he's been leaning on academics in imperial college in order to get the results that he wanted. sadiq khan is an incredibly divisive, ineffectual mayor of london, and he has virtually bankrupted the mayoralties office. he needs to increase taxes in order tax because that's what it is. ulez is a tax. he needs to increase taxes on the working class. the poor working class. again, picking up the tab in order to fund his inability to run tfl properly, it should be scrapped. ulez i think should be scrapped right

across london, not just the outer bit, but the inner bit too. the congestion charge can stay. that's bad enough , but the stay. that's bad enough, but the rest of it should just go . rest of it should just go. >> well, obviously sadiq khan isn't to defend himself, so isn't here to defend himself, so you know. but it would appear that the information that was placed on all the advertising or much that advertising wasn't much of that advertising wasn't quite correct. so we will see what happens maybe you what happens to that. maybe you live the expanded zone live in the expanded ulez zone and happy with it. and you're not happy with it. let gb views let us know. gb views gbviews@gbnews.com. this is gb news. we are the people's channel. nana akua if you channel. i'm nana akua if you just joined us, it's fast approaching. minutes after approaching. 23 minutes after 3:00. coming up, my outside 3:00. now, coming up, my outside guest he's guest at five. he's a politician. he's he's a father. he played a key figure in northern ireland's political history. and can you work out who he is? who do you think? find out more at five. put up next. you the next. do you trust the government to do what it takes to boats? send me your to stop the boats? send me your thoughts. views at

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you actually believe that? do you actually believe that? do you really think that he's right there when he says things like that? he said lots of things so far. do you think he really does want do what it takes stop want to do what it takes to stop the because if he did, the boats? because if he did, why earth allow suella why on earth did he allow suella braverman really? i mean, braverman to go? really? i mean, you'd that got you'd have thought that he'd got that let's what that sorted, but let's see what my head is. make of my head to head is. make of that. i'm by deputy that. i'm joined by deputy leader party, ben leader of the reform party, ben habib, labour mp habib, and former labour mp stephen pound . so ben do stephen pound. so ben habib, do you trust the government to do what to stop the boats? you trust the government to do whtno, to stop the boats? you trust the government to do whtno, i to stop the boats? you trust the government to do whtno, i don't) stop the boats? you trust the government to do whtno, i don't trust» the boats? you trust the government to do whtno, i don't trust them)oats? you trust the government to do whtno, i don't trust them one;? >> no, i don't trust them one jot. i >> no, i don't trust them one jot. | | >> no, i don't trust them one jot. i i think bibby jot. i mean, i think bibby stockholm sums up their their aptitude matter for last aptitude in this matter for last year about this time suella braverman brought forward what was then called the illegal migration bill, and she said that this bill would be very carefully drafted to ensure that we could absolutely stop the boats and i read the bill when it was first drafted and it said things like, the secretary of state is required , ed to detain state is required, ed to detain and deport those people who enter the united kingdom

illegally when the act came in in july after having gone through the commons, it gave the government the right. but not the obligation to detain people. also when it became an act, there was a big carve out for there was a big carve out for the european court of human rights, allowing the secretary of state to take notice, explicitly take notice of what the echr rules and of course, the echr rules and of course, the echr rules and of course, the echr is the supreme judicial bodyin the echr is the supreme judicial body in this country for human rights. so giving the secretary of state the ability to listen to the echr is the equivalent of requiring the secretary of state to listen to the air echr . so to listen to the air echr. so for all the rhetoric around the illegal migration act that it would give give government the power it needed to do what it needed to do, it was a falsity. it was another misrepresentation by this government, it was another misrepresentation by this government , the idea by this government, the idea that now they can somehow bring emergency legislation forward that would allow them to solve the problems is ridiculous . it's

the problems is ridiculous. it's because they've had ample opportunity to do that. but the other point is this and this is the more substantive point. rwanda is never going to work, even if flights take off full of illegal migrants, it's never going to work because the number of migrants, illegal migrants being deported to rwanda, even at full tilt, would not be sufficient in number to act as a deterrent for those wishing to make the journey to the uk. >> you say that, but who wants to be the guinea pig of the first 200? yeah, but they don't. and the idea of this plan is to break the smugglers model so the smugglers model relies on people having that knowledge that when they arrive in the uk they'll stay. if any of them think they're not going to do that, then no one's going to be there. >> but none of these people have made perilous journeys from nonh made perilous journeys from north syria, across north africa, from syria, across chop ipp seas, braving all sorts of elements and law and enforcement. but why are they doing and the and the idea that

a little and all of that is a deterrent. why are they doing but all of that is a deterrent. >> yeah but they're doing and because the vast majority, even if worked at full tilt, if rwanda worked at full tilt, there'd about 4000 people there'd be about 4000 people that we would deport. >> but who's to 46,000 >> but who's going to 46,000 came in last year. >> first don't >> the first 500 people don't want to be the first 500. >> but look, there's a real contradiction here. firstly, rwanda ain't rwanda is fantasy land. it ain't going to happen. but look, here's real problem . here's here's the real problem. the actually the government is actually putting scenarios putting two different scenarios out on the hand, out there on the one hand, they're saying rwanda bracing they're saying rwanda is bracing you. sit there sipping you. you can sit there sipping a cocktail in balcony of your you. you can sit there sipping a cock starin balcony of your you. you can sit there sipping a cock star hotel balcony of your you. you can sit there sipping a cock star hotel inilcony of your you. you can sit there sipping a cock star hotel in kigali of your you. you can sit there sipping a cockstar hotel in kigali on/our you. you can sit there sipping a cockstar hotel in kigali on the five star hotel in kigali on the other hand, they're saying it's so terrifying that people won't want that's want to go there. and that's absolutely right. complete contradict however, real contradict. however, the real problem. i see here is the government are looking at the whole the wrong whole issue through the wrong end telescope. we end of the telescope. what we should to actually should be doing is to actually have process in sangatte have process centres in sangatte as used have before, as we used to have before, which the stopped for some the government stopped for some reason could actually the government stopped for some reason these could actually the government stopped for some reason these asylumd actually process these asylum applications there and then look, to send look, we're not going to send people afghanistan, people back to afghanistan, we're send people we're not going to send people back that ain't going back to tehran. that ain't going to happen. you send somebody

back to tehran. that ain't going to hato en. you send somebody back to tehran. that ain't going to hato en. you andd somebody back to tehran. that ain't going to hato en. you and there's)ody back to tehran and there's a bloke his bloke there sharpening his scimitar stone waiting for scimitar on a stone waiting for you off the plane. you you to get off the plane. you know that ain't going to happen. some these people are some of these people who are coming here are actually people that we want that we will accept and we want to get them into this country working as working and paying tax as quickly we've quickly as possible. so we've got to process the applicants at stage one. >> sounds like a great >> this sounds like a great idea, unfortunately you're idea, but unfortunately you're used to work. >> it worked under labour. no >> it worked under labour. no >> whole situation has >> well, the whole situation has changed people, changed the dynamics of people, but talking about an but they're now talking about an amnesty. about amnesty. the dynamics of about of around the of people travelling around the world stay in world and coming to stay in different countries has changed. it's no longer the it was. it's no longer the way it was. we something shifted we know that something shifted in yeah, now an all out >> yeah, there's now an all out assault the united kingdom. >> yeah, there's now an all out ass there'sthe united kingdom. >> yeah, there's now an all out ass there's an united kingdom. >> yeah, there's now an all out ass there's an assault kingdom. >> yeah, there's now an all out ass there's an assault notjdom. >> yeah, there's now an all out ass there's an assault not jusli. >> there's an assault not just on other countries, on the uk but other countries, other sort of countries other western sort of countries around it's around the world. so it's a different environment. so i don't you use that as don't think you can use that as a but with regard to a comparison. but with regard to rwanda, that meant rwanda, it's not that it's meant to be scary, scary place. the to be a scary, scary place. the idea that it's stopping you. idea is that it's stopping you. you won't end up where you've expected end up. so you've expected to end up. so you've paid that money to the paid all that money to the people smugglers. the aim is actually at people, actually targeted at the people, the smugglers and lots of other

countries actually do send people and they have people back. and when they have been israel, sent 40,000 been used by israel, sent 40,000 people to rwanda and they disappeared. >> you know, nobody knows where they them went to they went. some of them went to ethiopia, eritrea. ethiopia, some went to eritrea. but that comes but the idea that somebody comes here from mali and comes all the way here we send them here from mali and comes all the way fly here we send them here from mali and comes all the way fly over we send them here from mali and comes all the way fly over mali we send them here from mali and comes all the way fly over mali into end them here from mali and comes all the way fly over mali into into them here from mali and comes all the way fly over mali into into to m back, fly over mali into into to rwanda is just bonkers. >> well, what's your what's your point? where would you send them? >> yeah, no, i would actually process them there. i wouldn't send to rwanda. i'd send send them to rwanda. i'd send them back to mali. if mali is safe, them back or togo or safe, send them back or togo or gabon. safe, send them gabon. if it's safe, send them back there. >> they need the cooperation of the there. of course, the french there. and of course, they don't. >> well, the french are being kicked out of gabon. >> but you the >> no, but you need the cooperation of the french to have i beg your pardon. >> oh, i beg your pardon. i thought you said the french. >> no, the french. to get >> no, no, the french. to get the to the the cooperation, to have the processing centres you say. yeah >> e we're not in. had it >> and we're not in. we had it before got, we've got you. >> i think we've got to we've got to get away from bilateral, relying arrangements in multilateral arrangements in order to sort our own domestic problems this this

problems out this this government has to acting government has to start acting like an independent, sovereign country be an independent country and to be an independent sovereign country, got sovereign country, you've got to have borders . so to have enforced borders. so to start with, we've got to have a border force that does what it says on the tin, which is stop these boats and send them back to a home office that to france and a home office that works and italy needs to do the same. italy has much bigger same. italy has a much bigger body of water. >> haven't they sent some of these countries to sent boats back to libya and they haven't. >> haven't. them >> they haven't. some of them have pushed out greece has tried it. been ineffectual . they it. it's been ineffectual. they haven't been trained adequately in how to do it, deal with albania. >> they haven't. >> they haven't. >> sorry. well, italy's got the deal with albania, haven't they? >> people back albania. >> yeah. small albania. » yeah. >> yeah. in small numbers again. you lampedusa has still you know, lampedusa has still got deal. lampedusa had got a deal. lampedusa had 10,000, italian island had 10,000, italian island had 10,000 people arrive. one week. >> i think ben's making a point today. people are firing guns across the border in hungary. there armed gangs. there are there are armed gangs. there are three groups gangs who three main groups of gangs who are i'm going to are well, listen, i'm going to have go to the news. have to go to the news. >> we'll back that. >> we'll come back to that. listen, we've listen, listen, sorry. we've

running out of time. there's a great a really good great debate, a really good discussion. are your views discussion. what are your views coming minutes after coming up to 35 minutes after 3:00. gb news asking 3:00. this is gb news asking about protests as about pro—palestine protests as they fashion as they become a fashion trend as even they become a fashion trend as ever. thoughts. ever. send me your thoughts. first, get latest first, let's get your latest news tatiana . news headlines with tatiana. nana >> thank you. this is the latest from the newsroom. the white house says negotiations to release hostages held by the hamas terror group in gaza are at a very sensitive stage . it at a very sensitive stage. it comes as israel's ambassador to the us told abc news he's hopeful a significant number of hostages will be released in the coming days. qatar, which is home to many hamas leaders , has home to many hamas leaders, has played a key role in mediation dunng played a key role in mediation during the conflict. more than 200 hostages were taken by hamas on the 7th of october. so far, four have been released . the four have been released. the chancellor has refused to rule out tax cuts in next weeks. >> autumn statement jeremy hunt told gb news the government is acting responsibly and rules out

introducing anything that risks fuelling inflation. after it was halved over the past year. >> it comes amid increasing speculation that he'll reduce levies on inheritance income or business tax . home owners could business tax. home owners could be offered up to £1,000 per year off their household bills if they're prepared to live near new electricity pylons . the new electricity pylons. the government is hoping the move will overcome planning objections and speed up more infrastructure for charging electric vehicles. it could be worth up to £10,000 over a decade for . worth up to £10,000 over a decade for. some a woman who acted as a fixer for people smugglers has been jailed for seven and a half years . 32 year seven and a half years. 32 year old ajsa karmakar , who is from old ajsa karmakar, who is from albania, helped arrange small boat crossings from france to the uk for albanian nationals. >> she was arrested at her home in oxfordshire last year and will be deported upon her release from prison . release from prison. >> you can get more on all of those stories by visiting our website, gbnews.com now it's

back to nana . back to nana. >> thank you, tatiana . still to >> thank you, tatiana. still to come, should striking railway workers get back to work ? we'll workers get back to work? we'll be going head to head in a clash of minds with stephen pound and ben that's way .

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six till 930. >> good afternoon. it's just coming up to 41 minutes after 3:00. this is gb news. we are the people's channel. i'm nana akua. we're going head to head in a clash of minds. and this is the next topic. have pro—palestine become a pro—palestine protests become a fashion ? but just briefly fashion trend? but just briefly before get that, i want to before i get to that, i want to actually some these actually read some of these messages sent. we've messages that you sent. we've been a lot of been talking about a lot of things me to go to things joining me to go head to head pound and also head is stephen pound and also ben and drew's message. ben habib. and drew's message. and said, nana, i can't and he said, nana, i can't believe with believe i'm agreeing with stephen . we do desperately stephen pound. we do desperately need in capital need investment in capital projects. we were discussing need investment in capital projeearliere were discussing need investment in capital projeearlier .were discussing need investment in capital projeearlier . ares discussing need investment in capital projeearlier . are these ssing need investment in capital projeearlier . are these such as that earlier. are these such as schools, prisons, roads, etcetera? however ben habib is absolutely right. these projects should be funded by government spending more spending money better and more effectively . so agreement on effectively. so an agreement on there on ulez won't last. it won't last. now, i want a good old scrap today. sadiq khan explained that ulez simply to boost expanded ulez simply to boost expanded ulez simply to boost the near bankrupt tfl when he called out khan called anyone far right who criticised his plans ulez should be scrapped. david you're absolutely right.

he did. darren says this we can tax. we need tax cuts for the workers. all these years paying into the system. workers are the worst off. who go to work worst off. people who go to work for minimum wage and i really like this one about the train strikers because as bill says now inflation is reduced to 4.6. will the rail unions withdraw their ridicule pay demands? you'd think , wouldn't you? you'd think, wouldn't you? right. well, let's move to on this. keep the messages coming. but we're you've seen them every weekend , these pro—palestine weekend, these pro—palestine protests, which feel to me, like a lot of people on them, don't really understand why they're protesting. perhaps they've protesting. and perhaps they've become some sort of fashion trend now throughout the last become some sort of fashion tren years. throughout the last become some sort of fashion trenyears. annghout the last become some sort of fashion tren years. and that's the last become some sort of fashion tren years. and that's not last few years. and that's not obviously to denigrate anybody who's protesting for peace and doesn't like to death doesn't like to see death because nobody i know likes to see and destruction. but see death. and destruction. but there seem to be an element there does seem to be an element within those marches where people don't really understand what's going and throughout what's going on. and throughout the we've the last few weeks, we've seen more take the more protesters take to the streets palestine. more protesters take to the streetsalso palestine. more protesters take to the streetsalso witnessed alestine. more protesters take to the streetsalso witnessed pupilsz. more protesters take to the streetsalso witnessed pupils in we've also witnessed pupils in schools across britain take part

in a school strike for palestine. but do these younger generation actually know exactly what they're protesting for? or is this just a classic case of virtue signalling ? so is this just a classic case of virtue signalling? so i'm is this just a classic case of virtue signalling ? so i'm asking virtue signalling? so i'm asking today have pro—palestine protests become a fashion trend? and in particular amongst the young? well, let's see what my head to head is. make of that. i'm going to start with you, stephen i'm genuinely bemused. look at the moment, over 2 >> look at the moment, over 2 million afghan sikhs and muslims are being forced to cross the border from pakistan into afghanistan at gunpoint. nobody's saying a damn word about of uyghurs about that. millions of uyghurs in china are actually experiencing genocide, real genocide, not just a word that you throw around, actually real. what's happening in yemen, what's happening in south sudan , what's happening in south sudan, all over the world? what's happening? muslims all over the world? what's happeni|being muslims all over the world? what's happeni|being slaughtered muslims that are being slaughtered in syria . yet this syria. and yet with this particular situation, when people calling for people are calling for a ceasefire, everybody that people are calling for a ce call re, everybody that people are calling for a ce call foreverybody that people are calling for a ce call for a erybody that people are calling for a ce call for a ceasefire that people are calling for a ce call for a ceasefire is that to call for a ceasefire is simply make you feel good. it's not going to save anybody's lives. there's way that hamas lives. there's no way that hamas are ever going to agree to a ceasefire when their whole

raison is destruction raison d'etre is the destruction of state of israel. there's of the state of israel. there's no way that israel is going to agree to ceasefire. look, agree to a ceasefire. look, i think what think that what i'm doing, what a lot of people like jess phillips are doing is raising money for medical aid for palestine, the red money for medical aid for pales and the red money for medical aid for pales and red the red money for medical aid for pales and red crescent the red money for medical aid for pales and red crescent the going cross and red crescent and going with of a humanitarian with the idea of a humanitarian pause you cannot simply pause because you cannot simply call expect. call for a ceasefire and expect. >> jess phillips >> but didn't jess phillips resign she indeed. resign because she did, indeed. and that's what she calling. >> she said, let's let's do something well, let's something practical. well, let's let's let's walk let's not let's let's just walk around streets london around the streets of london calling something that calling for something that you're never, ever to get. you're never, ever going to get. and i think. >> so did resign? >> so why did she resign? >> so why did she resign? >> felt that it >> because she she felt that it was to actually make was important to actually make that her that statement. i've asked her about you think it was nothing >> do you think it was nothing to a significant muslim? >> it's not that significant. it's no, i mean, it's not. i mean, no, i mean, even if look , this this even if look, this this this this voting business, you this muslim voting business, you know, salma yaqoob or george know, if salma yaqoob or george galloway or 1 or people stood, galloway or 1 or 2 people stood, what's the most, you know, 2 or 3 somewhere in 3 votes for respect somewhere in the it's not going the country? it's not going to make difference. not make a difference. this is not about psychology. not about about psychology. it's not about political not political advantage. it's not about seat. what about keeping your seat. what it's much it's about is something much wider there's sort wider and deeper. there's a sort of fear and of an anger and a fear and a feeling of impotence. look,

nobody of nobody with half an ounce of humanity in their soul, nobody could possibly what's could possibly look at what's happening and want do happening in gaza and want to do something. the problem is walking through streets of walking through the streets of london, verging of london, verging into some of these appalling chants that we're isn't helping we're hearing isn't helping anybody. humanitarian anybody. supporting humanitarian aid and humanitarian pause would and will help people . and will help people. >> well, i just reiterate and reinforce what stephen said at the outset. you know, there are many humanitarian crises taking place across the globe in which we as a country had a direct hand.so we as a country had a direct hand. so that the afghans in pakistan , we drew the boundary, pakistan, we drew the boundary, the borders. well i mean, that was 1947, but we had a much more direct hand in in the afghan conflict that ended a couple of years ago. we went in, we bombed the place for 20 years. we destroyed the infrastructure. we came up with nothing new to offer that country. when we left other than to hand them back to the taliban. and we've got a destroyed in libya where destroyed state in libya where humanity , marian, are humanity, marian, abuses are taking place on a daily basis. still syria, another country

that we helped not completely destroy , but it was a perfectly destroy, but it was a perfectly functional country . we may not functional country. we may not have agreed with its politics, but we helped to destroy it. with the arab spring. so there are many, many places where we should right rightly, be calling into question our own actions and trying to do something to fix the problems that we created internationally . fair fix the problems that we created internationally. fair enough. you know , the israeli gaza thing you know, the israeli gaza thing at the moment has very little to do with british foreign policy as it is at the moment, except, of course, that hamas is able to gain arms and money from iran. and we are part of that problem because we haven't shut that down adequately. you know, we flirted with iran . we had that flirted with iran. we had that nuclear non—proliferation treaty, and we were giving them money in response. we're trying to bring them back into the international fold. so we are guilty in, you know , dancing guilty in, you know, dancing with the devil, as it were , and with the devil, as it were, and not making a proper break. but just to your question, i mean, there are undoubtedly idiots in

these marches who don't know what they're marching for. i went to the armistice day, armistice day , anti—israeli armistice day, anti—israeli march, and i stood for an hour at hyde park corner. and i saw i heard all the. >> why did you go to the march? >> why did you go to the march? >> well, because i wanted to see what it was all about . if >> well, because i wanted to see what it was all about. if i was going to understand what these people were complaining about, i needed see firsthand. needed to see it firsthand. and i say, primarily it was i have to say, primarily it was a belligerent march. it was it was a march calling was it was a march calling for the of israel . the the obliteration of israel. the chant around the march chant that went around the march repeatedly the river to repeatedly was from the river to the which everyone now the sea, which everyone now knows what means, is knows what it means, which is the obliteration of israel and a ceasefire by israel, which effectively is to lay down arms and make themselves vulnerable again to a hamas attack. no one was calling for hamas to lay down its arms or for hamas to release the hostages. not a single call from the crowd, but the amusing thing was just to your point was there was placards up such as les liens for palestine and iranian

feminists , arts for palestine. feminists, arts for palestine. would they be the first ones to be? >> absolutely. >> absolutely. >> they just had they've got no joined up thinking going on in their heads. they haven't really thought this through. >> listen. but the >> but listen. yeah, but the point some of those point is, though, some of those people those marches would people on those marches would have been marching for peace. people on those marches would havea)een marching for peace. people on those marches would havea)eerof|arching for peace. people on those marches would havea)eerof the1ing for peace. people on those marches would havea)eerof the people peace. people on those marches would havea)eerof the people onace. people on those marches would havea)eerof the people on those and a lot of the people on those marches may not have understood what on. and that's what was going on. and that's the point that of the whole point that sort of refer to within my question, because i don't think like if you of a lot young you think of a lot of the young people the marches, they people on the marches, they wouldn't i should wouldn't most of them, i should imagine, want to see wouldn't most of them, i should ima destruction want to see wouldn't most of them, i should ima destruction of want to see wouldn't most of them, i should ima destruction of all. |t to see the destruction of all. >> i think i think you're right. >> i think i think you're right. >> i think i think you're right. >> i mean, the point is, >> i mean, so the point is, i almost feel like they're all going of break out into going to sort of break out into some of dance that they all some sort of dance that they all know routine and start know the routine and start singing palestine the know the routine and start singi to palestine the know the routine and start singito the palestine the know the routine and start singi to the sea estine the know the routine and start singito the sea because the know the routine and start singito the sea because it the river to the sea because it feels they're like, feels like they're doing like, you know, have got kids you know, parents have got kids who 3 4 with who are like four, 3 or 4 with little things things, and little things and things, and they've painting on they've got face painting on and things that. things like that. >> it's bit >> but i think it's, it's a bit like greta thunberg went away. >> greta thunberg but even she's joined doesn't know joined in and she doesn't know what talking. what she's talking. >> no, i think not as >> no, i think it's not as innocent gets my goat

innocent really gets my goat about this. >> along as an observer >> i went along as an observer on first about the on the first one. about half the placards produced placards there were produced either socialist workers either by the socialist workers party or the revolutionary communist party. correct so these body these leeches on the body politics, who have politics, these people who have no politics of their own, who have program, have have no program, who have actually doing actually no hope of ever doing anything being anything apart from being a confounded nuisance, are printing these placards and people people know people at kerry. do people know what workers party people at kerry. do people know whwhat workers party people at kerry. do people know whwhat the workers party people at kerry. do people know whwhat the revolutionary party is, what the revolutionary communist is, and that's communist party is, and that's what it's anti—semitic? >> was profoundly, >> well, there was profoundly, profoundly anti—semitic. but but and that's the other thing that's going on in these marches. there's a sinister element which has nothing to do with gaza has with israel and gaza and has everything being anti everything to do with being anti british wishing to cause british and wishing to cause dysfunction in this country. suella braverman correctly talked how multicultural talked about how multicultural ism was failing, and this is a manifesto ation of that multiculturalism not working. no one in this country should be thinking the way those some of those marchers are thinking. >> did you see piece the >> did you see my piece in the daily about daily mail about multiculturalism failed, but multiculturalism has failed, but also wrote a piece about some also i wrote a piece about some of language, said, of the language, as you said, one crowd with one teacher in the crowd with the placard that had rishi sunak

and suella braverman , the and suella braverman, the coconut coconuts. and so it's disgusting. but then she no, but in her defence in a sense , those in her defence in a sense, those who know her said that literally said that she wouldn't hurt a fly if she wouldn't fly as if she wouldn't understand what she was saying. so that the sort so it could be that the sort of thing somebody thing where somebody made a placard, carrying it placard, she's carrying it, it just that i think she admitted. >> all just saying >> but but all i'm just saying is i think is no, you're right. i think your the mail your article in the mail deserves wider circulation because you from because you speak from a entirely different perspective that . and i that i can speak from. and i think of that think your analysis of that situation informed by who you situation is informed by who you are and where you come from. and i it's worthy of wider i think it's worthy of wider circulation. thank you very much. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> i actually and bought a >> i actually went and bought a copy flippin daily copy of the flippin daily mail just it being daily mail. >> i have i haven't read the article, so the first thing i will read yeah it's will do is read it. yeah it's onune will do is read it. yeah it's online as well. yeah, i will look at it. online as well. yeah, i will loo well, . online as well. yeah, i will loo well, thanks. yeah. >> well, thanks. thanks. yeah. so. at home, what so. so basically at home, what do you think? do think that do you think? do you think that a these people on a lot of these people on these marches, sure there marches, whilst i'm sure there are proportion are good are a large proportion are good intended, those intended, there are those who are of going along are just sort of going along with shouldn't with it. my and i shouldn't really much, but my really say too much, but my

daughter school says daughter at her school she says that if she was to say that she supported israel in any or, supported israel in any way or, you know, show different lie you know, show a different lie line notion that you know, show a different lie line not notion that you know, show a different lie line not pro—palestinian at you know, show a different lie line not pro—palestinian or she's not pro—palestinian or whatever , ever, they wouldn't whatever, ever, they wouldn't have they would . isn't that have that they would. isn't that terrifying? this is teenager, terrifying? this is a teenager, so is terrifying. >> there's terrifying. >> there's no that's terrifying. >> there's no that's terrifying. >> room nuance. >> there's no room for nuance. >> there's no room for nuance. >> do you know what you said earlier on in your introduction? you but you said, we may disagree, but we won't get cancelled. and you said we treat each said and we will treat each other respect. see no other with respect. i see no indication anybodytreating indication of anybody treating an perspective an opposing perspective with respect what think ? are >> well, what do you think? are these pro—palestine marches sort of into of of turning into a bit of a fashion trend? well, let's get to our final topic, which is all about workers. about striking railway workers. do get do you think they should get back now? train drivers back to work now? train drivers are set to stage a fresh round of strikes as they announce a rolling of walkouts. rolling programme of walkouts. now, of more now, it's part of some of more than year long dispute over than a year long dispute over pay than a year long dispute over pay that's seen the train union negotiate with different prime ministers with rishi sunak being their third one. so is it time just for them to just either get to a compromise or just stop to a compromise orjust stop striking altogether? because frankly, inflation is down, most of are on an average. is it

of them are on an average. is it £65,000 a year, which is a very good above the good salary, way above the national average. let's see what my head head is make of that. ben habib and also stephen pound. >> ben yeah. so i mean, agree >> ben yeah. so i mean, i agree with you. going lose with you. they're going to lose the if haven't the sympathy if they haven't already sympathy the already lost the sympathy of the public, will it soon public, they will lose it soon because is down. and because inflation is down. and even doesn't even though that doesn't mean pnces even though that doesn't mean prices coming down prices are actually coming down and suffered the same and they've suffered the same diminution in value of their diminution in the value of their wages had previously wages that they had previously suffered, because inflation suffered, just because inflation is coming down, that doesn't get addressed. sympathy will addressed. but sympathy will go because inflation will be low. no one else will be striking. they'll out their and they'll be out on their own. and actually they have to they they'll be out on their own. and actuthaveiey have to they they'll be out on their own. and actuthave to have to they they'll be out on their own. and actuthave to put have to they they'll be out on their own. and actuthave to put up ave to they they'll be out on their own. and actuthave to put up ave tathey they'll be out on their own. and actuthave to put up ave ta much may have to put up with a much worse settlement the end worse settlement in the end because inflation having come because of inflation having come down. they're doing down. i think they're doing damage to themselves. they need to nation needs to settle it. the nation needs to settle it. the nation needs to on. to settle it. the nation needs to but on. to settle it. the nation needs to but let's let's take one one >> but let's let's take one one factor here. is not the factor here. this is not the train this is aslef , the train driver. this is aslef, the association of association society of locomotive engineers. and this is mick lynch and rmt have settled. mick lynch, who i remember is a very, very effective goalkeeper, played in west london. was known as the

west london. he was known as the moaning but was moaning goalie, but he was a good goalkeeper. has yet good goalkeeper. he has yet again is a very, again showed that he is a very, very canny negotiator . again showed that he is a very, very canny negotiator. he settled when inflation was high. at that level. he's done very well. aslef have been left behind rolling for strike the rolling stock may be something which aslef. which is as appeals to aslef. but the problem is they are now completely isolated and mick lynch and the and the rmt are actually pocketing the extra money they've got. and i think in many cases they've earned it and it. but and they're worth it. but so this actually aslef not this is actually about aslef not about all train drivers. >> well, listen. i'd love >> well, listen. well, i'd love to get your your thoughts on this. let's read some of your other messages . we were talking this. let's read some of your other the sages . we were talking this. let's read some of your other the mayorswe were talking this. let's read some of your other the mayors because talking this. let's read some of your other the mayors because sadiq; about the mayors because sadiq khan abdullah says it's time we reduced and erased or erased city mayors powers. they've become a sub government having a detrimental on our lives detrimental effect on our lives without a mandate the without a mandate from the national electorate . we'll keep national electorate. we'll keep all those thoughts coming. gb views at cbnnews.com. still to come at my guest, come at five, my outside guest, he's a politician who comes from an family in british an important family in british politics, particularly in northern ireland, named after

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headlines with tatiana. nana. >> thank you very much and good afternoon. it's 4:00. this is the latest from the newsroom. is israel's ambassador to the us says he's hopeful a significant number of hostages will be released by hamas in the coming days. released by hamas in the coming days . his comments come after days. his comments come after the qatari prime minister indicated only minor logistical issues stand in the way of a hostage release deal. >> although israel's leader, benjamin netanyahu, insists no deal has been reached . deal has been reached. >> qatar, which is home to many hamas leaders, has played a key role in mediation during the conflict . conflict. >> more than 200 hostages were taken by hamas on the 7th of october. so far, four have been released. one has been rescued and dozens have been killed . the and dozens have been killed. the chancellor has refused to rule out tax cuts in next week's autumn statement, jeremy hunt told gb news the government is acting responsibly and rules out introducing anything that risks fuelling inflation. after it was halved over the past year. it comes amid increasing

speculation that he'll reduce levies on inheritance income or business taxes . but the business taxes. but the chancellor insists next week's statement will focus on growth . statement will focus on growth. >> we're not going to do anything wrong, irresponsible particularly by which i mean anything that fuels inflation because we had a big victory last week when we delivered the prime minister's pledge to halve inflation when he and i came to office, it was over 11. now it's 4.6. people watching at home, their number one concern, they say, in poll after poll, is the cost of living crisis. this makes a difference . so we're makes a difference. so we're going to do this responsibly. >> well, labour have warned that cutting inheritance tax while squeezing the welfare system dunng squeezing the welfare system during a cost of living crisis would be wrong. and the shadow chief secretary to the treasury, darren jones, says he wants to know how any cuts will be paid for. >> we've said in the labour party that we want the tax burden to come down on working people. it's the highest it has

been since the second world war. people. it's the highest it has been shad the second world war. people. it's the highest it has been shad 25e second world war. people. it's the highest it has been shad 25 conservative �*ld war. people. it's the highest it has been shad 25 conservative tax var. we've had 25 conservative tax rises in this parliament alone, but we can only announce those tax cuts when they can be fully funded . and if the chancellor is funded. and if the chancellor is going to announce a tax cut on wednesday, we're going to be looking at he's been to looking at how he's been able to get to pay that to happen. >> people who are to prepared live new electricity pylons live near new electricity pylons could stand to benefit by up to £10,000 over a decade . the £10,000 over a decade. the government is set to announce the move to overcome planning objections and speed up the approval of new energy infrastructure. the current estimate is 14 years. home owners could get £1,000 a year per year off their household bills. although the treasury hasn't specified where the money will come from . a woman who will come from. a woman who acted as a fixer for people smugglers has been jailed for seven and a half years . 32 year seven and a half years. 32 year old jasa keir mather, who's from albania, helped arrange a small boat crossings from france to the uk for albanian nationals. she was arrested at her home in

oxfordshire last year and will be deported upon her release from prison . a conservative mp from prison. a conservative mp who was found guilty of racial abuse has announced he's standing down at the next election. bob stewart racially abused a man after he was told him to go back to bahrain outside the foreign office last december after he surrendered, the tory whip . while he appealed the tory whip. while he appealed against his conviction , the mp against his conviction, the mp for beckenham made no reference to the recent case, but said it had been an honour and a privilege to serve flight restrictions are in place at heathrow airport amid strong winds and staff shortages as national air traffic services says it's working to minimise disruption at the uk's busiest airport . there have been reports airport. there have been reports from angry passengers on social media today , with people media today, with people complaining of long delays and cancellations. passengers are being advised to check with their airline before heading to their airline before heading to the airport . it their airline before heading to the airport. it many buses and electric vehicles have been sent to albania as part of a deal to return foreign prisoners , as the

return foreign prisoners, as the arrangement will see, 200 albanian nationals currently jailed in england and wales sent back home for the rest of their sentence. the uk has also agreed to help modernise albania's prison system. the overall deal is expected to cost around £8 million, which the government says will save money for britain's prisons . and a hat britain's prisons. and a hat once worn by napoleon has gone under the hammer in paris. its new owner paid £2.1 million for the hat called bicorne, which was worn by napoleon during his rule over the french empire in the 19th century, napoleon owned about 120 hats, though the one worn by joaquin phoenix in ridley scott's epic new film is just a replica . this is gb news just a replica. this is gb news across the uk on tv in your car on digital radio, and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news. now back to nana .

news. now back to nana. >> hello, good afternoon. it's fast approaching. six minutes after 4:00. this is a gb news on tv online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua. tv online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua . now i thought i'm nana akua. now i thought that we'd start with some lighter news, otherwise we'll all lose our minds. so after a string of gaffes on the war in israel that are obviously totally unacceptable, but some might excuse us. the fog of war, the bbc has scored yet another own goal, and this one is completely inexcusable , completely inexcusable, laughable, and reeks of rank hypocrisy because this was a show that would have been approved long before it was filmed and would have required some planning . in its wisdom, some planning. in its wisdom, the bbc, commonly referred to as auntie, put together a panorama episode about climate change and the damage that we as humans are doing to the planet entitled why are we still searching for fossil fuels in order to do this? they felt that they should

send their reporter and i'm presuming a crew on an estimated 20,000 mile jaunt in aeroplanes around the world to explain why , around the world to explain why, in his words, despite all the green promises, we're using more fossil fuels than ever before . fossil fuels than ever before. richard bilton, the programme's reporter whilst claiming that the world is saying one thing and doing another. travel to europe, the middle east and the united states for the episode and the flights alone producing and the flights alone producing a conservative estimate of around 5.4 tonnes of co2 more than the average a person creates in a year and equates to driving a car for 18 months. this this reminds me of harry and meghan preaching their climate claptrap after having taken a load of private jets, which they are still taking by the way. now i just want to caveat this with the fact that i do think that there is a place for the bbc, but you can't go out of your way to preach by doing the very thing which is causing the problem to find out

how it be solved , said how it can be solved, said conservative mp dame andrea jenkins said if the bbc feels it necessary to lecture the public about fossil fuels, they should practice what they preach first. she went to on say. to add to the rank hypocrisy, the bbc could easily have used local teams of reporters in each country rather than sending one man on a jolly. country rather than sending one man on a jolly . apparently, all man on a jolly. apparently, all the flights were economy, but that's okay. then a spokesperson for the bbc said as a flagship current affairs programme on occasion , some international occasion, some international travellers required to further investigate important stories and provide audiences with additional insight and analysis which may not be possible with on the ground reporting . so let on the ground reporting. so let me help solve the mystery and partly answer the panorama question why are we still searching for fossil fuels? it's because of people like you, richard, travelling around the world. nothing wrong with that, by the way. but what do you think the plane is fuelled by

numpty . so before we get stuck numpty. so before we get stuck into the debate, here's what else is coming up today for the great british debate this hour. i'm asking, could tax cuts save the tories from an election annihilation ? now the annihilation? now the conservative party is suffering a near 30 point deficit in the polls to labour. meanwhile, sunak has had to lead with a damning rwanda ruling by the supreme court. but there's also been some good news for the prime minister. with inflation being halved. so i'm asking is it time to cut taxes and could tax cuts save the tories from an election annihilation? i've got to pull right now on asking election annihilation? i've got to pthat right now on asking election annihilation? i've got to pthat veryht now on asking election annihilation? i've got to pthat very question. asking election annihilation? i've got to pthat very question. could; you that very question. could tax cuts save the tories from election annihilation ? send your election annihilation? send your thoughts as ever. gb views at gbnews.com. then stay tuned at 450 it's world view qatar prime minister says that only minor differences stand between hamas and israel before a hostage release deal can be struck. i'll be speaking to an israeli

government spokesperson on how far along the negotiations are. we'll also cross live to los angeles with paul duddridge to get the latest on the us politics, where joe biden is set to celebrate his 81st birthday. and on donald trump, who's now 39 points ahead in in desantiss home state of florida. but stay tuned at 5:00. it's this week's outside. now i'll be speaking to a man . these are the clues who a man. these are the clues who comes from a very important family in british politics, particularly in northern ireland. he was born in to a very heavily political household, but has gone on to make a name for himself as well. find out who at find out who he is at five. that's on way in the next that's on the way in the next houn that's on the way in the next hour. so, as ever, tell me what you think on everything we're discussing. email gbviews@gbnews.uk at gbviews@gbnews.uk or tweet me at . gb news. right. let's get started. let's welcome again to my panel broadcast and author christine hamilton and also broadcaster and journalist danny kelly. right. let's start with

you, danny. seeing as you used to work for the bbc ex—bbc, it's all your fault , right? what do all your fault, right? what do you think? >> i'm past the problem. >> i'm past the problem. >> if you apply this, you could actually, if you think about it, nana, there's no need to send people like gary lineker to the qatari world because you qatari world cup because you could watch it from a from could just watch it from a from a studio and commentate. >> don't need be next to >> you don't need to be next to the in order oh, come the pitch in order to, oh, come on, you're a footie fan. >> would you rather be >> where would you rather be next pitch or i'm getting next to the pitch or i'm getting round in a roundabout way. >> the point isn't . >> the point isn't. >> the point isn't. >> that's to explaining why i think maybe that on on the odd occasion it is legitimate to send somebody on a on a plane . send somebody on a on a plane. >> it is in order to. >> but they shouldn't they shouldn't talk climate shouldn't talk about climate change and stuff like that if they're do but they're going to do that. but they're going to do that. but the alternative. >> okay, so mp, andrea >> okay, so the mp, andrea jenkyns, said could have jenkyns, said they could have used crews, they used local camera crews, they could had could have done they had an entire that would entire crew, but but that would be say, for be like saying, say, for example, akua show was example, the nana akua show was to glasgow and we were to go to glasgow and we were worried about your carbon footprint a plane footprint getting on a plane would to would anyone be able to replicate on the replicate nana akua on the streets of glasgow when it's

your depends. your show? but it depends. >> why i'm doing >> it depends why i'm doing a piece why do we still need piece about why do we still need fossil fuels? and i'm criticising it and talking about climate change, don't you think? so if you're doing a show about climate change, don't you think? so ifyou're doing a show about climate change, don't you think? so ifyou're asking a show about climate change, don't you think? so ifyou're asking the low about climate change, don't you think? so ifyou're asking the question, why you're asking the question, but answered it yourself but you've answered it yourself by getting on a plane, that's why we need for god's sake. why we need them for god's sake. well, to have well, then you've got to have then going have then you're going to have to start looking topic and start looking at the topic and subject show to see if subject of each show to see if there's alternative way of there's an alternative way of doing i would say doing it. absolutely i would say for show, you're for that particular show, you're a you get a hypocrite. if you get on planes travel around the planes and travel all around the world asking question, why? world asking the question, why? why using fossil why are we still using fossil fuels? well, absurd. fuels? well, look, absurd. >> worth hear the >> it was worth it to hear the word numpty. i haven't heard the word numpty. i haven't heard the word for years, word numpty for years, but i completely get point. you completely get your point. you know, about know, you're talking about you're mostly to the you're preaching mostly to the converted, preaching converted, but you're preaching and what we should and telling us what we should and telling us what we should and be doing. and shouldn't be doing. yet you're flying all around the world tell not to fly world to tell us not to fly around world, essence. around the world, in essence. >> asking >> exactly. and you're asking why need was why do we need that was specifically the title of the episode. >> it's like promoting vegan and or vegetarianism. and at the same time munching a burger. exactly. it's a bit it's a bit

like that . and anyway, his like that. and anyway, his position , whatever his name is, position, whatever his name is, robert. richard is not the same as nana because nana is eponymous. she is the show . i eponymous. she is the show. i mean, i know we're a little bit apart, but it's her show. it's not the same. she would have to go presenting her go if she was presenting her show from somewhere else. but this is not panorama. no this fellow is not panorama. no i this was one segment i told you this was one segment of , presumably of panorama, presumably not the entire was called why entire episode was called why are we searching for fossil fuels? >> yeah, so that was the episode is actually called why are we searching for fossil fuels? but you would need a bbc you would still need a bbc reporter do it or a bbc reporter to do it or a bbc presenter, actually presenter, but they actually have each the have reporters in each of the places flew every places that he flew to every time up an argument, time i come up with an argument, you shoot me down. time i come up with an argument, you shotheye down. time i come up with an argument, you shothey do. ywn. time i come up with an argument, you shothey do. you're right. >> but they do. you're right. i forgot. the have all forgot. the bbc have all organisations, all people, organisations, all the people, they've got reporters everywhere around have around the world they have didn't need. we've got reporters. we them. reporters. we pay for them. >> convinced i >> you've convinced me. i thought up. thought i had one up. >> fellow could have >> this fellow could have provided continuity >> this fellow could have prov needed continuity >> this fellow could have provneeded by continuity >> this fellow could have provneeded by by)ntinuity >> this fellow could have prov needed by by doing ty was needed by by doing a voiceover from the things that the people in the various countries had shot. you're right. easily done that. >> the bbc could have easily mobilised those

mobilised crews within those regions. got crews in regions. they've got crews in america. they've crews america. they've got crews in all places went . i've all the places they went. i've checked they could have checked this and they could have easily you don't easily done that. so you don't even make any. >> they will have answer for >> they will have an answer for it. answer for it. they have an answer for everything. complain a everything. you complain about a programme back programme and they come back with some rubbish and they've always an answer. it does always got an answer. it does tell or less about tell you it's more or less about the funds the the unlimited funds that the place got . place has got. >> know, if they were really >> you know, if they were really concerned about cutting on concerned about cutting back on costs, okay, costs, they would send okay, we've reporter in north we've got a reporter in north america, on the america, get fred on the on the go to the antarctic or wherever. if we've got an antarctic reporter going to reporter or if they're going to go know, i don't know , go to, you know, i don't know, somewhere alaska, for example , somewhere alaska, for example, get american up get the american reporter up there . there. >> it was a great jolly for this guy, it? guy, wasn't it? >> was. he had great time. >> it was. he had a great time. but the bbc said that >> it was. he had a great time. but pledged: said that >> it was. he had a great time. but pledged to aid that >> it was. he had a great time. but pledged to reduce: >> it was. he had a great time. but pledged to reduce their they've pledged to reduce their operations, greenhouse gas emissions by 2030. so emissions by 46% by 2030. so they could have started with that. they said all flights were in class and in economy class and were required for on the ground reporting. so you know, i would presume he has a crew because you do that on your you wouldn't do that on your own. they they will have own. well they they will have their very often if you i've

done some travel programmes for the very often there was the bbc and very often there was you met by a crew where you you were met by a crew where you were going. so that they were going. so if that said they could had could have easily had a presenter well. i mean it's presenter as well. i mean it's just absolutely absurd. >> i think emperor >> well, i think the emperor would flying the would have been flying out the presenter himself, maybe presenter by himself, or maybe i'm feel sorry for i'm beginning to feel sorry for the bbc, the presenter the bbc, fly out the presenter and local camera crews. >> no, no, no, you shouldn't fly anybody because the anybody out there because the whole this why whole premise of this is why are we still for fossil we still searching for fossil fuels a fossil fuels whilst you're on a fossil fuelled plane going the fuelled plane going around the world? oh, do actually world? oh, i feel i do actually feel for the bbc. mean, feel sorry for the bbc. i mean, they have that awful mess with they have that awful mess with the reporting week well. the reporting last week as well. i just it was awful. i mean, it's just it was awful. they got completely information all wrong a hospital and all wrong about a hospital and i don't even want to repeat it. it's to shameful and too embarrassing for but this embarrassing for them. but this one avoidable . one was completely avoidable. it's pre—recorded you it's a pre—recorded thing. you didn't to that, did you? didn't need to do that, did you? i why? i mean, why? >> the bit between her >> she's got the bit between her teeth on one. teeth on this one. >> and what we learn from it? teeth on this one. >betnd what we learn from it? teeth on this one. >bet yourhat we learn from it? teeth on this one. >bet you we we learn from it? teeth on this one. >bet you we learne learn from it? teeth on this one. >bet you we learn nothing rom it? teeth on this one. >bet you we learn nothing that it? i bet you we learn nothing that we already know that's available on internet. just go to on the internet. just go to youtube, tap in climate change, atlantic and you see it

yourself. >> get in a plane. then you understand why you need fossil fuels. >> i'll tell you what it's like. it's like emma thompson flying halfway to join halfway around the world to join a oil protest in a just stop oil protest in trafalgar . she flies trafalgar square. and she flies first class. she's first class, first class. she's too old to travel economy. she's younger and i to younger than me and i have to travel. it's all travel. economy and it's all right. just about see so this is the thing so i think just the thing so i think they just need bit more mindful of need to be a bit more mindful of the of the optics of that because understand who because i don't understand who was bbc that was there in the bbc that thought that would be thought that that would be a good idea. >> that's a really good idea. why we need fossil fuels? why why do we need fossil fuels? why why do we need fossil fuels? why searching why why are we still searching for fuels? let me go for fossil fuels? let me go 20,000 around world 20,000 miles around the world now fuelled engine now on a fossil fuelled engine in plane work out why ? in a plane and work out why? well, that's why obviously , if well, that's why obviously, if you've just joined us, welcome on board. it's coming up to 17 after this is gb news on tv, after for this is gb news on tv, onune after for this is gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. we are people's channel. i'm are the people's channel. i'm nana now. coming it's nana akua. now. coming up, it's time the great british time for the great british debate this hour. and asking debate this hour. and i'm asking if could save the if tax cuts could save the tories from an election annihilation . would that be annihilation. would that be enough?in annihilation. would that be enough? in worldview, i've got the latest from the israel hamas war potential hostage deal

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asking for the great british debate this hour. i'm asking could tax cuts save the tories from election annihilation ? ian from election annihilation? ian right. so joining me to debate and discuss, stephen pound, former labour party mep ben habib, deputy leader of reform uk. sunil sharma, chief operating officer of the conservative friends the conservative friends of the commonwealth, and mike parry, journalist and broadcaster. i'm going start out with you, going to start out with you, sunil . could the tax cuts save sunil. could the tax cuts save the tories ? the tories? >> i think that alone won't save the tories, but i think it's definitely a step in the right direction. >> i think if you look at what happened even in the by elections, for example, in bedfordshire, although it bedfordshire, where although it was crushing defeat for the was a crushing defeat for the tories, saw something tories, we saw something positive for them in the sense of we're not necessarily seeing traditional or general tory voters switching to labour. i think what we're seeing a lot more of is those voters not coming out to vote. >> so i think there's something there of optimism for the party in the sense of tsitsipas starmer has not successfully been able to take those tory voters to the labour side,

something that tony blair was very strong at and did a very good job of. sir keir starmer isn't doing that. >> don't lot of people >> i don't think a lot of people necessarily that necessarily find him that interesting . and think the interesting. and i think the bigger problem the tories is bigger problem for the tories is , think they , is themselves. i think they are losing elections are they are losing elections rather than labour winning elections. >> i think something you said there, problem with the there, the problem with the tories is themselves. i think that seems to be mike parry yeah i >> -- >> look, i emma hum >> look, i think this is a gimmick. i mean, sir keir starmer accused the tory party of rwanda being a gimmick and it's not. >> it's a solid policy on how to stop people coming across the channel. >> but if the tory party really believed in low taxes, it shouldn't have taken until the last moment of the last government. >> they're likely to be able to conduct for a number of years to suddenly come up with tax cuts. in my view, tax cuts are a political ideology for the left, but for small c conservatives ,

but for small c conservatives, it should be common sense . any it should be common sense. any economist will tell you if you lower taxes, you generally speaking, get a bigger return. think about when george osborne ramped up stamp duty. do you know what happened in that year? stamp duty returns went down by about 25. common sense tells you that if you give the ordinary working man and woman their money, instead of taking it as a government, the money is used better, it's more productive and it stimulates the economy . so it stimulates the economy. so whilst jeremy hunt is now, you know, presumably on wednesday this week, going to be, you know, the flagbearer of cutting taxes , it's not his philosophy. taxes, it's not his philosophy. he and rishi sunak don't believe in that. david cameron, lord cameron, i beg your pardon. coming into the government doesn't believe in that and they're using it as a tactic to try and bring voters on their side . side. >> but he but but his argument but his argument was it was all

about being responsive edible by the sounds. i mean, he did use the sounds. i mean, he did use the word responsible and he as though he wouldn't do anything irresponsible. pound irresponsible. stephen pound yeah, complete myth. yeah, it's a complete myth. >> the idea that slashing taxes and letting you know, as gladstone used to say, the money, fructify in the pockets of actually increases of the people actually increases productivity. of the people actually increases productivitit's of the people actually increases productivit it's economic nonsense. it's economic illiteracy. the reality is look at italy, which has a higher productivity ratio than we have. look at france, look at the other countries which have higher and are much, higher tax rates and are much, much productive. real much more productive. the real problem in country problem we have in this country is which is is the infrastructure which is crumbling . schools our crumbling. our schools and our prisons collapsing left, prisons are collapsing left, right be right and centre. we should be spending that. but spending money on that. but finally, mike perry, for finally, mike perry, not for the first actually said first time. it's actually said something rather sensible because in all honesty, if they want bring in tax cuts and if want to bring in tax cuts and if they want to bring in a great carrot to lure the electorate back into the booth, they back into the blue booth, they should done it 2 3 years should have done it 2 or 3 years ago. it next april, ago. if they do it next april, which they could which is the earliest they could introduce he announces introduce it. if he announces it on or thursday, on wednesday or thursday, they're come in next they're going to come in next april. feel the april. people won't feel the effect guess when effect of that till guess when

the election ? the next election? >> benabib i completely >> benabib well, i completely endorse said . endorse everything mike said. it's self—evident they should have cut taxes ages ago to hunt himself, says that this is going to be a budget for growth. and by that what he means is for the first time in history, this conservative government is going to taxes . well, if he to cut taxes. well, if he recognises that cutting taxes results growth , then he results in growth, then he should have cut years ago . should have cut them years ago. but right when he but mike's also right when he says this government for says this government isn't for cutting . this government cutting taxes. this government is state, state is large state, state intervention, big borrowing , big intervention, big borrowing, big spending, high taxation . when, spending, high taxation. when, when, when, when . hunt talks when, when, when. hunt talks about getting people back into work , he talks about a £25 work, he talks about a £25 billion fund that he's going to set up spend money. it set up to spend money. it doesn't occur to that if he doesn't occur to him that if he cut taxes on the working and middle classes , they'd be middle classes, they'd be incentivised work . incentivised to go to work. they're not at the moment. you can make as much money on can make just as much money on benefits pretty you do benefits pretty much as you do at median wage in the united at the median wage in the united kingdom. running third kingdom. we're running a third world in a first world world economy in a first world country. the irresponsible thing to is not to cut taxes .

to do is not to cut taxes. >> so. >> so. >> neil yeah, i think the big problem for the lecturer and i think exactly what stephen's saying in the sense of i think it's very hard to see what the core principles and values are of rishi and jeremy hunt. i think we can all understand when people have a set of principles and values what they believe and values and what they believe in and that has something in and that has been something i think the party is still trying to work out. it's clear with some of the leadership, some of the party, the people within the party, whether suella, what their whether it's suella, what their plans they believe in. plans are, what they believe in. i with jeremy and rishi, i think with jeremy and rishi, the big thing for a lot of voters what do they actually voters is what do they actually believe in? know, what's believe in? you know, what's going happen in terms of going to happen in terms of doing tax cuts, which is a conservative policy to do. will they follow through with this? conservative policy to do. will they 1about through with this? conservative policy to do. will they 1about immigration?this? conservative policy to do. will they 1about immigration? what what about immigration? what about the role of big state? what about, you know, it doesn't seem to me as if there's a clear vision . and i think that's going vision. and i think that's going to more important. to be much more important. >> alternative is the >> but our alternative is the labour party, and they are we know that they always they their record is a party of tax. so if

we think tax is high now, now i would suspect that the labour party will put it even higher. is that mike? >> oh, i totally agree with you. i mean, i saw rachel reeves on the television this morning. she couldn't answer one single question policies question on what her policies were going she used the were going to be. she used the old trick. well, we old political trick. well, we haven't seen yet, so haven't seen the books yet, so i don't know we're going to don't know how we're going to address you know well as address it. you know as well as i do everybody on this panel, every labour government every time a labour government has in, when they've gone has come in, when they've gone out, they've bankrupted the country. absolutely true . country. it's absolutely true. harold wilson and jim callaghan and tony blair and gordon brown bankrupted the country because at the end, when they're daft policies, which in my view are daft, that's only my opinion. don't work, they just raise taxes and milked the british person . let me give you a small person. let me give you a small example. if i've got to pay £40, tax more a week under all these tax more a week under all these tax rises , it means i can't go tax rises, it means i can't go to my chinese restaurant on a friday night, to my chinese restaurant on a friday night , take my girlfriend friday night, take my girlfriend and enjoy a meal, which would keep that business going .

keep that business going. multiply that by 1 million or 2 million people and all of a sudden you're sucking money out of the economy to give to politicians . and we all know politicians. and we all know politicians. and we all know politicians are incompetent and incapable of managing money. >> well , incapable of managing money. >> well, somebody should speak up for the incompetent and the incapable. and i think that's probably my job to do that. but look, the reality is, if we actually spent money on infrastructure, so that the goods could actually get that goods could actually get to that chinese quicker, chinese restaurant quicker, if we vat . so that we actually cut vat. so that mike's food bill, which is probably fairly impressive at the should could the moment, i should say, could be more. we should be reduced even more. we should do it. but look, this this old nonsense, shibboleth about nonsense, this shibboleth about labour putting up taxes, absolute rubbish. population absolute rubbish. the population increased. the tax increased. therefore the tax take increased. it was not labour that put them up, it was the increase in the population. but bottom line about this but the bottom line about this is, will save the is, you know, will it save the conservatives? only thing conservatives? the only thing that the conservatives that can save the conservatives is what they call retail politics people politics now, where people pick and in a way that they and choose in a way that they didn't first came didn't do. when i first came into time in the into politics, some time in the last it's only

last century, it's the only thing that save idea of thing that can save the idea of a rwanda is for a gimmick. now, rwanda is for the it simply isn't going the birds. it simply isn't going to happen. law and order. i think lost the control to happen. law and order. i thithat lost the control to happen. law and order. i thithat completely he control to happen. law and order. i thithat completely publictrol to happen. law and order. i thithat completely public order. of that completely public order. they just don't know what they're so they're talking about. so cutting that'll be cutting taxes, that'll be a great advantage in years great advantage in two years time. and know, a labour time. and you know, a labour government enjoy government will probably enjoy the fruits and the benefits of that cut. you. thank that tax cut. thank you. thank you, jeremy. that tax cut. thank you. thank youwell my. that tax cut. thank you. thank youwell ,1y. that tax cut. thank you. thank youwell , they'll probably put >> well, they'll probably put the back though, the taxes back up though, won't they? add the taxes back up though, won't they? more add the taxes back up though, won't they? more or add the taxes back up though, won't they? more or find add the taxes back up though, won't they? more or find somethingd the taxes back up though, won't they? more or find something else some more or find something else . keir starmer has got . i mean, keir starmer has got plans private schools, plans to tax private schools, doesn't that's doesn't he? that's that's one that's no, he that's coming out. no, he hasn't. he just removing the charitable amounts the charitable status amounts to the same there'll same thing though. there'll be vat, commercial vat, there's a commercial organisation vat, there's a commercial orgenotation vat, there's a commercial orgenot all1 vat, there's a commercial orgenot all of them . they are, but not all of them. they are, but not all of them. they are, but lot them. but a lot of them. >> party will level the >> labour party will level the country down and the conservatives had conservatives have already had a pretty good go at kicking conservatives have already had a preteconomy good go at kicking conservatives have already had a preteconomy and go at kicking conservatives have already had a preteconomy and the at kicking conservatives have already had a preteconomy and the social;ing the economy and the social fabnc the economy and the social fabric of this country and the shins. the labour party will be a worse than the a shade worse than the conservatives who's to conservatives who's going to speak conservatives. conservatives who's going to spe so conservatives. conservatives who's going to speso no, conservatives. conservatives who's going to speso no, the servatives. conservatives who's going to speso no, the way, tives. conservatives who's going to speso no, the way, ives. conservatives who's going to speso no, the way, i think >> so no, by the way, i think the for the conservatives, the thing for the conservatives, i think thing honestly i think the thing that honestly may them is the fact that may save them is the fact that i just don't conservative just don't see conservative voters voting for sir keir starmer. >> i think if you had a much

stronger leader, whether it's even somebody andy, but even somebody like andy, but somebody in somebody who believes in something for labour party, something for the labour party, somebody doesn't his somebody who doesn't pick his policies based twitter and policies based on twitter and instagram, i think if they had some somebody there with some charisma who as who isn't charisma who isn't as who isn't as boring as sir keir , i think as boring as sir keir, i think they would have a fantastic chance of this. i think chance of doing this. i think the party in some the conservative party in some ways are very lucky it's ways are very lucky that it's sir starmer opposite sir keir starmer in the opposite number, else. it number, not someone else. it gives some rally. gives them some time to rally. maybe tax cuts if they can maybe the tax cuts if they can do better with stopping the boats, if they actually act boats, if they can actually act on these policies that on some of these policies that they maybe they can stop they have, maybe they can stop from annihilation and from a complete annihilation and maybe minority maybe it will mean a minority government. let's see. government. well, let's see. let's not very ambitious. >> let's get a final one. ben habib well , >> let's get a final one. ben habib well, one final word. no, no, no. not one final word. could cuts save the tories could tax cuts save the tories from annihilation? from election annihilation? the final is yes or no. final word is yes or no. >> no. but reform reform . >> no. but reform could reform. uk can. it's not a two part. it's not a two horse race. no, there's a third horse in this race talking about reform. >> talking about it's >> we're talking about the it's like that. and another thing. colombo. i wasn't

colombo. no, but i wasn't allowed say it earlier. allowed to say it earlier. you're going say you're not going to say anything. to anything. just we don't want to know. talking the know. we're talking about the tories pound tories now. stephen pound and finally. don't think finally. no, no, you don't think they can. sunil, what do you think? >> yes. >> yes. >> you so? >> you think so? >> you think so? >> nomination , from >> not from a nomination, from losing, from losing. losing, but from losing. >> but from >> yeah, but not from annihilation. what annihilation. mike perry, what do no? i think do you think? yes or no? i think inheriting tax can save the tories . tories. >> no, it happened last time, didn't it, gordon brown called. yes or no? >> yes or no. mike, we've got to run news. listen thank run to the news. listen thank you much. good talk to you so much. good to talk to you. pound, thank you. mike stephen pound, thank you. mike stephen pound, thank you former labour you very much. former labour party habib, deputy party mp ben habib, deputy leader sharma leader of reform alok sharma chief operating officer of the conservative friends the conservative friends of the commonwealth and mike parry, journalist and broadcaster. thank much. that's what thank you so much. that's what they think. but what do you think? gb gbnews.com think? gb views gbnews.com or tweet at gb news. coming up, tweet me at gb news. coming up, we'll continue with the great british this hour. and we'll continue with the great brit asking this hour. and we'll continue with the great brit asking thitax)ur. and we'll continue with the great brit asking thitax)ur. lsave i'm asking could tax cuts save the from election night the tories from election night nafion? the tories from election night nation? you'll hear the thoughts of author and of my panel, author and broadcaster christine hamilton and and and also journalist and broadcaster danny kelly. but first, all, i've got first, after all, i've got a very exciting outside guest as well coming. he's a politician .

well coming. he's a politician. he comes from a very important family in british politics, particularly northern particularly in northern ireland. he's a big campaign against cancel culture, who is he? but first, let's get your latest news headlines with tatiana . nana tatiana. nana >> thank you. this is the latest from the newsroom. the white house says negotiations to release hostages held by the hamas terror group in gaza are at a very sensitive stage. it comes as israel's ambassador to the us told abc news he's hopeful a significant number of hostages will be released in the coming days. qatar, which is home to many hamas leaders, has played a key role in mediation dunng played a key role in mediation during the conflict. more than 200 hostages were taken by hamas on the 7th of october. so far, four have been released . the four have been released. the chancellor has refused to rule out tax cuts in next week's autumn statement, out tax cuts in next week's autumn statement , jeremy hunt autumn statement, jeremy hunt told gb news the government is acting responsibly and rules out

introducing anything that risks fuelling inflation. after it was halved over the past year. it comes amid increasing speculation that he'll reduce levies on inheritance income or business taxes . levies on inheritance income or business taxes. home home levies on inheritance income or business taxes . home home owners business taxes. home home owners could be offered up to £1,000 per year off their household bills if they're prepared to live near new electricity pylons. the government's hoping the move will overcome planning objections and speed up more infrastructure for charging electric vehicles . it could be electric vehicles. it could be worth up to £10,000 over a decade for some. a woman who acted as a fixer for people smugglers has been jailed for seven and a half years . 32 year seven and a half years. 32 year old chzo keir mather, who is from albania, helped arrange small boat crossings from france to the uk for albanian nationals. she was arrested at her home in oxfordshire last year and will be deported upon her release from prison . for her release from prison. for more on all of those stories, you can visit our website at gbnews.com now back to nana .

gbnews.com now back to nana. >> thank you, tatyana . just >> thank you, tatyana. just coming up to 35 minutes after 4:00, this is gb news on tv onune 4:00, this is gb news on tv online and on digital radio on the way. i'll be speaking to a spokesperson for the israeli government and we'll be discussing the war in the israel—hamas war. but up next, it's israel—hamas war. but up next, wsfime israel—hamas war. but up next, it's time for the great british debate. this out. and i'm asking if tax cuts could save the tories from election annihilation. i've got to pull up right on x asking you up right now on x asking you that question. could tax that very question. could tax cuts tories from cuts save the tories from election annihilation as ever? email gbviews@gbnews.com or tweet me at

sunday mornings from 930 on . gb news. >> welcome back. if you've just joined us, this is gb news. we are the people's channel. i'm nana akua. it's fast approaching 39 after four years and it's time now for the great british debate. this hour. i'm asking could tax cuts save the tories from election annihilation? now, earlier today, the chancellor, jeremy hunt, told gb news that he wants to put the uk on the path to lower taxes. the path that he put us on, well, they all put us on that, didn't they? but because he said he'd only do this in a responsible way so that didn't sacrifice, so that he didn't sacrifice the progress of inflation. now there's been predictions of a labour landslide , but could tax cut landslide, but could tax cut save the tories from electoral annihilation ? let's see what my

annihilation? let's see what my panel make of that. i'm joined by broadcaster and author christine hamilton also christine hamilton and also journalist danny journalist and broadcaster danny kelly. christine hamilton , what kelly. christine hamilton, what do you think? cutting taxes ? do you think? cutting taxes? >> i think the immediate answer to your question is no, because i think anything can save i don't think anything can save them electoral them from electoral annihilation. but the only thing that mitigate the disaster, that can mitigate the disaster, which befall, which will undoubtedly befall, in opinion, is , yes, is going in my opinion, is, yes, is going for growth, making people feel better off and tax cuts are the way it. but they've got to way to do it. but they've got to cut right taxes. mean, if cut the right taxes. i mean, if they cut to get growth, they need to incentivise business. so what about cutting corporation tax instead of cutting corporation tax whenever it was last year, they they increased it. look what happened to you in ireland , dublin. they cut the ireland, dublin. they cut the corporation tax to 12. so we now have 12% in ireland and you have 25% in northern ireland because it's part of the uk twice as much. the result is that astrazeneca , for example, will astrazeneca, for example, will take their £320 million of investment out to southern to

ireland rather than to northern ireland. and it's crazy . and ireland. and it's crazy. and they need to cut taxes to benefit small businesses, which is where 50% of growth comes from , and they employ something from, and they employ something like 65% of the workforce. so they need to do things like that. inheritance tax is all very well , but that. inheritance tax is all very well, but it isn't going to affect a massive mass of people and people will work around it. i mean, why does james dyson, for example, have so much land forestry and land? because it's exempt from inheritance tax. so people like people like dyson there are exemptions to inheritance tax. they need to iron all those out. so people like dyson when they inherit whatever the word, the opposite of inherit, when they pass on their land, people do pay. he will pay inheritance tax . will pay inheritance tax. they're going to have it, but they've got to iron out things like and cut the rate of like that. and cut the rate of corporation tax. and if they can throw in, they've got something like 20 billion to spend as a sort of fiscal benefit . they sort of fiscal benefit. they need they need everybody to feel, yes, i am better off not,

oh my goodness, the rich people are not going to have to pay inheritance. >> but it's the principle of inheritance tax isn't it? it's wrong. you've already paid the tax shouldn't have to tax once. you shouldn't have to pay tax once. you shouldn't have to pay should have to pay it. nobody should have to pay pay it. nobody should have to pay it. >> wu w'- b“— w i read an article that >> danny, i read an article that they were considering. maybe lowering corporation tax for smaller you're smaller businesses. now, you're right. know, the right. you know, the big businesses, pay, think, businesses, they pay, i think, 25. is it definitely 25, 25. smaller businesses pay less . smaller businesses pay less. they pay about 19% smaller businesses. if you've got businesses. so if you've got a small business like i have my corporation tax is less. i read that they're going actually that they're going to actually he's consider cutting he's going to consider cutting that tax even further which for a like that's a small business like me, that's brilliant news. the question is, is conservatives do is can the conservatives do anything to avoid anything really to avoid annihilation ? nye bevan i don't annihilation? nye bevan i don't think that is going be think that is going to be annihilation. you'll be annihilation. i think you'll be surprised at the success in inverted commas that the conservatives are going to have. now, i'm not second now, i'm not for one second saying that they're to get saying that they're going to get an majority. i think saying that they're going to get an may majority. i think saying that they're going to get an may be ijority. i think saying that they're going to get an may be a rity. i think saying that they're going to get an may be a coalition.k saying that they're going to get an may be a coalition. the 80 there may be a coalition. the 80 seats is going to be dramatically tax dramatically reduced. our tax cuts going to prevent people from switching from conservative to don't think they

to labour. i don't think they are because i think one of the earlier commentators saying earlier commentators was saying that know politics, that if you know your politics, labour have got a pretty rough record it comes tax. the record when it comes to tax. the conservatives i think more conservatives i think are more prudent they're prudent and i think they're displaying with displaying that prudence with the the inflation has the way that the inflation has come is come down, the inflation is lower than germany, than italy, and i think france and look at all the billions that the uk government spending with government is spending with armaments with ukraine. look at all the many million every day the uk government is putting into small hotels or this into small hotels or the this third party unexpected expense . third party unexpected expense. and i think the conservatives are putting into hotels. >> you mean putting out for for the migrants forgive me. >> million a day. >> yeah. 5 or £6 million a day. you know, that's billion. you know, that's 1.5 billion. >> 1.7 is about 8 million a day. >> 1.7 is about 8 million a day. >> okay. so £4 billion a year. £4 billion a year. and they're finding that money. they're looking after putting a roof over people's heads. >> a lot of it's coming of >> a lot of it's coming out of our budget. so our foreign aid budget. so rather lot of it going rather than a lot of it going abroad, all very well abroad, it's all very well removing something from pot removing something from one pot and it in another pot. and putting it in another pot. >> that doesn't mean you've got

more you still have the more money. you still have the same just same amount of money. it's just that pots or a that you're diverting pots or a fund pot to pot . fund from a pot to this pot. >> i think one of the fundamental the labour of fundamental the labour way of doing things nana that's a labour way of doing things. >> is, yeah. >> it is, yeah. >> it is, yeah. >> there's three cups >> it is, yeah. >> pot there's three cups >> it is, yeah. >>pot . there's three cups >> it is, yeah. >>pot . it's there's three cups >> it is, yeah. >>pot . it's like e's three cups >> it is, yeah. >>pot . it's like the hree cups >> it is, yeah. >> pot . it's like the three :ups >> it is, yeah. >> pot . it's like the three cup to pot. it's like the three cup trick, that people on trick, you know, that people on the streets and is it? the streets do. and where is it? the i think the trouble is, i think fundamentally that tories fundamentally that the tories have lost their reputation as being the party of low tax and tax cuts. they have lost that and labour haven't gained it. but if the tories don't have that plus point for people, yes , that plus point for people, yes, i want lower taxes. obviously i vote tory. they've lost that. so i think there's going to be less reason for people to vote tory and i think now, i mean it may not be total wipe—out, but they're not going to and they're not going to win. and i think starmer to lose. think it's keir starmer to lose. i know he's in a terrible mess with with all this gaza business and his party split asunder. but i tories in an i mean, the tories are in an equal mess too, and they're split i think it's split asunder. it's i think it's starmer's to at the moment . starmer's to lose at the moment. >> think that there's >> i don't think that there's enough tory enough money for the tory party to on that old

to hold on to that old stereotype and reputation of being a low tax government . i being a low tax government. i just think that the financial situation at the moment doesn't matter. doesn't matter matter. it doesn't matter whether have the fiscal whether you have the fiscal scientific expertise as alan suganl scientific expertise as alan sugar, i think that needs must at the moment. >> well, okay, well this shows nothing without you and your views. let's welcome our great british voices there opportunity to the show and tell us to be on the show and tell us what think the topics what they think about the topics we're what should we what they think about the topics we'rshould what should we what they think about the topics we'rshould we what should we what they think about the topics we'rshould we go vhat should we what they think about the topics we'rshould we go to it should we go? should we go to kidderminster ? kidderminster? >> the carpet? >> the carpet? >> oh, there's no there's no map for kidderminster. >> oh, there's no there's no map for kidderminster . john reid , for kidderminster. john reid, what do you think? could the tories , if they cut the taxes, tories, if they cut the taxes, they're going to do something potentially on wednesday. could they avoid an election annihilation, is probably annihilation, which is probably where they're heading ? where they're heading? >> chance of avoiding the >> no chance of avoiding the annihilation . annihilation. >> christine, is everton on the money >> absolutely perfect. what you're saying, >> absolutely perfect. what you're saying , christine. you're saying, christine. >> danny, i'm sorry. i can't sympathise with the word you say . can't see it at all. i think that if sunak is going to reduce , um, the tax on on what's it

called now? the one when you die. >> oh. >> oh. >> inheritance tax in inheritance. >> i'm sorry. >> i'm sorry. >> yeah. old age is getting to me. i think only people like sunak this kind of money. so i think tories are dead in the water. labour, i think, are going to win it by default. i don't think they've got all the answers, but i think the public would have more in them in would have more faith in them in changing rather the changing things rather than the tories . i don't think in 13 tories. i don't think in 13 years they've changed very much except looking after their own . except looking after their own. >> wow. well, thank you very much. john. john reading kidderminster. he's our great british voice. to talk to british voice. lovely to talk to you. do think? gb you. well, what do you think? gb views gbnews.com. it's on there. there's twitter there's a pull up on twitter right asking you that right now. i'm asking you that very question. please cast your vote. if you've vote. i'm nana akua. if you've just in. welcome. coming just tuned in. welcome. coming up it's outside and up at 5:00, it's outside and i'll be in speaking to a very influential figure in uk politics who comes from a very important family. politics who comes from a very important family . we'll talk important family. we'll talk highs, lessons learnt and highs, lows, lessons learnt and what next on the outside. what comes next on the outside. but first, let's get some weather. >> hello there. welcome to your

latest news weather forecast . latest news weather forecast. i'm craig snell. well, looking ahead to the new working week, we are going to start off rather grey and damp. we are going to start off rather grey and damp . for some of us, grey and damp. for some of us, it will be dry in midweek, but for it looks like it's going for all it looks like it's going to as we head to turn colder as we head towards weekend. back towards next weekend. back to the here now. still are the here and now. we still are dominated by this huge area of low note tightly low pressure. note the tightly packed indicating packed isobars indicating it's going fairly blustery going to be fairly blustery as we at sunday. quite a lot of we end at sunday. quite a lot of cloud around with some outbreaks of rain keeping a very close eye on area of rain. on this next area of rain. however it into parts however as it moves into parts of south wales , southwest of south wales, southwest england throughout the night could turn quite squally for a time. with all the cloud and time. but with all the cloud and rain around , it's going to be rain around, it's going to be another fairly mild one right across uk . so we start across the uk. so we start monday morning, across the uk. so we start monday morning , potentially monday morning, potentially quite wet across parts of southern england, but that will clear off towards france as we head towards the middle part of the morning . that briefly the morning. that may briefly allow sunnier spells to allow some sunnier spells to develop across parts of the midlands for a time . midlands east anglia for a time. but a lot of the uk it's but for a lot of the uk it's going to be a fairly grey start to the new working week. further

outbreaks of rain that may well be persistent, set be fairly persistent, set up across northern across parts of northern scotland and with a northerly wind starting to develop, it will be slightly cooler than the weekend, on the mild weekend, but still on the mild side into tuesday. another fairly grey picture for parts of england and wales. risk of some outbreaks of rain in the east brighter and drier for scotland and northern ireland. that will sink its way southwards into england and wales as we go into wednesday and thursday . wednesday and thursday. >> oh, hello, welcome on board. i was just reading a little message here from the gentleman's name is gandhi. he said, please ask danny to repeat the quote sign again. thank you. i will ask him if you just join me. welcome on board. i'm nana akua. this is a gb news on tv onune akua. this is a gb news on tv online on radio. online and on digital radio. coming in next hour, it's coming up in the next hour, it's time for great british time for in the great british debate. would you debate. i'm asking would you agree pylon in your back agree to a pylon in your back yard for a £1 £0 a year? uh, but next world view as we get the latest on what's going on in israel and the us

good afternoon. 52 minutes after 4:00. this is gb news on tv onune 4:00. this is gb news on tv online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua. and it's time now for world view. i bring you the latest news from across the globe. let's start with israel. as reports suggest, a significant number of hostages could be freed in the coming days due to mediation negotiations by qatar. for more

on this, i'm joined by israeli government spokesperson noga arbel noga. thank you so much for joining me. so noga, can you forjoining me. so noga, can you give us an update on what's happening? because we know that hamas still have many hostages . hamas still have many hostages. is what's happening with the qatari government and their negotiations ? negotiations? >> i'm sorry , i'm not at liberty >> i'm sorry, i'm not at liberty to comment on ongoing negotiations about it, about this issue , very sensitive this issue, very sensitive issue.i this issue, very sensitive issue. i can only tell you that as a mother, i can understand how someone how parents of a hostage would be mad with worry for a child that was taken from them by the animals of seven, but the animals of 7th of october. and i can't i can honestly , i can honestly say honestly, i can honestly say that i honestly, i can honestly say thati can honestly, i can honestly say that i can relate to the anger at the international community for failing the children of

israel. and honestly falling the job of protecting innocents in this conflict at large. and it's important to remember that for israel , the hostages are a prime israel, the hostages are a prime objective. but since we're fighting a barbaric terror organisation that has lies in the seat woven into its ideology and has deceived us in the past at every turn, the only way we have to try and to secure our hostages is to bring the full force of the idf to bear on them. so they understand they have nothing to gain from holding to on them. as prime minister netanyahu made very clear, there is no place under the sun where anyone holding or hurting an israeli hostage can escape israeli justice is no, ho. 110. >> no. >> you must be seeing a lot of the reports of people, the protests all around the world, the pro—palestine protests . and the pro—palestine protests. and |, the pro—palestine protests. and i, for one, can't quite understand why a lot of these protests don't mention the hostages and are simply calling

for a ceasefire . how realistic for a ceasefire. how realistic is calling for a ceasefire from these protests and from governments around the world? >> well, i think calling for ceasefire is, quite frankly, destructive. we're fighting an enemy that doesn't care about the lives of palestinians or israelis. they've said so all by themselves on television in time and again . the only reason they and again. the only reason they would have to deal with humanitarian situation is because they want to ceasefire so that they can rearm and regroup and be more effective at hurting both israelis and palestinians. so hurting both israelis and palestinians . so people who are palestinians. so people who are calling for a ceasefire are rewarding the abhorrent behaviour of putting their own people at risk . behaviour of putting their own people at risk. hamas has virtually weaponized war crimes. they're putting innocents between us and them. so that they slow since they're putting innocents between us and them because they know we do not want to hurt them. they're using that

to hurt them. they're using that to slow down the onslaught against them and to slow down the process against them. knowing full well that if despite all of our best efforts , despite all of our best efforts, that any innocent get hurt , they that any innocent get hurt, they can put them in a report so that the international community will try to slow us down by calling the international community will try a» slow us down by calling the international community will try a humanitarian1 by calling the international community will try a humanitarian ceasefire. g for a humanitarian ceasefire. anyone who wishes to protect palestinians should stop calling for a ceasefire and start calling for hamas to surrender immediate and without condition . immediate and without condition. >> do you think so? i mean , i'm >> do you think so? i mean, i'm wondering why they people aren't calling for hamas to surrender. that's what they should be doing. and i'm with you 100% there. after all this latest boutin there. after all this latest bout in the fighting and this they what was effectively they broke what was effectively a ceasefire by the activities on the 7th of october. now, i wanted to ask you very briefly, because we're running out of time, why is it that qatar have taken the role a mediator. taken the role as a mediator. >> i'm sure qatar has a lot to gain from bringing bringing this

about. but again , i would i about. but again, i would i would hesitate to speculate or to comment on on it at this very sensitive time and negotiate an i'm sure that if the international community was actually bringing hamas , actually bringing hamas, bringing its force on hamas to bear and wasn't giving hamas benefits from the fact that they're holding hostages, and they're holding hostages, and the fact that they're abusing our their own people , well, it our their own people, well, it would be a lot easier to bring about a deal. israel is doing its part, both protecting both israelis and palestinian , as it israelis and palestinian, as it really is time the international community joined in as well . community joined in as well. >> thank you very much for joining me. that's sharm el sheikh is an israeli government spokesperson. thank you very much let's travel over to much. well, let's travel over to america now and speak to the host of the politics people podcast, duddridge , on podcast, paul duddridge, on what's there as joe what's happening there as joe biden's 81st birthday on monday , biden's 81st birthday on monday, 81. it's not he's not the oldest. so is he ?

oldest. so is he? >> i think he is the oldest, isn't he the oldest? um, i think he's the oldest ever sitting president. >> is he? um, he hasn't lost any of his . of his. >> no. i think ronald reagan was a little bit younger. i've got a feeling that reagan was out by 79. >> i think. >> i think. >> but he hasn't lost any of his sparkle. >> i could be wrong on those dates. >> he hasn't lost any. >> he hasn't lost any. >> he's as sharp as a tack . >> he's as sharp as a tack. >>— >> he's as sharp as a tack. >> he's as sharp as a tack. >> he's as sharp as a tack. >> he's as sharp as he ever was. joe biden. he's as sharp now as he was 15 years ago when he told a wheelchair bound senator to stand up to take the applause. he's as sharp now as when he came nearly bottom of his law school and claimed to finish in the top half. so he has all this idea of him losing, losing power because he's older is not true. >> he's always been and has maintained exactly the same intellectual prowess as well. >> that's good to know . not now. >> that's good to know. not now. what about the insurrection? because a judge finally found

that trump has engaged in insurrection. but it it shows that there was no insurrection because there's some new footage that's been seen. i mean, that's a bit of a head scratcher . oh, a bit of a head scratcher. oh, yeah. >> well, it is. so colorado . so >> well, it is. so colorado. so some people tried to keep trump off the ballot. there's three cases now where they've tried to keep trump off the ballot saying that he entered into insurrection, would insurrection, which would preclude him from being able to even president. but even run for president. but okay, judge said that, no, okay, the judge said that, no, you can't keep him off the ballot but their in the ballot. but in their in the judge's estimation, the judges finding that he did engage in insurrection at the same time the videos come out from january the videos come out from january the 6th. and we find that at best it was there was a bit of a skirmish with a guy did to her. there was no insurrection. there's never been an insurrection . there's never insurrection. there's never there has happened. insurrection. there's never the and has happened. insurrection. there's never the and yet has happened. insurrection. there's never the and yet as happened. insurrection. there's never the and yet a judge pened. insurrection. there's never the and yet a judge hased. insurrection. there's never the and yet a judge has found >> and yet a judge has found that trump did actually engage in insurrection . in insurrection. >> it's a head scratcher. is >> and it's a head scratcher. is an understatement. it is an

entire year. i prefer the word coup, but it is an entire , um. coup, but it is an entire, um. uh, what's the word? systematic establishment stitch up. >> yeah, well, it would appear to be that way. and trump is still 39 points ahead, which is interesting on desantis home state in florida. listen paul, we're running out of time. always good to talk to you. that is paul duddridge. he's the host of politics people podcast. of the politics people podcast. this us gb news. when live on this is us gb news. when live on tv, on digital radio. tv, online and on digital radio. more to come in the next hour . more to come in the next hour. it's 5:00. if you've just joined me. welcome on board. i'm nana akua for the next hour. me and my panel will be taking on some of the big topics hitting the headunes of the big topics hitting the headlines right now. coming up, i'll speaking my outside i'll be speaking to my outside guest huge for guest who's made a huge name for himself politician, partly himself as a politician, partly in particularly in northern ireland. then for the great british debate. this hour, i'm asking you accept £1,000

asking, would you accept £1,000 for a pylon in your back yard ? for a pylon in your back yard? but first, let's get your latest news with tatiana . nana. news with tatiana. nana. >> thank you very much and good afternoon. some breaking news. gb news understands that russell brand has been interviewed by police . s a man in his 40s police. s a man in his 40s believed to be the actor and comedian , attended a police comedian, attended a police station in south london on thursday . he was interviewed thursday. he was interviewed under caution by detectives in relation to three non—recent sexual offences . as we'll bring sexual offences. as we'll bring you more on this story as we get it elsewhere, the white house says negotiations to release hostages held by the hamas terror group in gaza are at a very sensitive stage. it comes as israel's ambassador to the us told abc news he's hopeful a significant number of hostages will be released in the coming days. qatar which is home to many hamas leaders , has played many hamas leaders, has played a key role in mediation during the conflict. more than 200 hostages were taken by hamas on the 7th

of october. so far , four have of october. so far, four have been released . the chancellor been released. the chancellor isn't ruling out tax cuts in next week's autumn statement, jeremy hunt told gb news the government is acting responsibly and says he won't make any changes. and says he won't make any changes . that risk fuelling changes. that risk fuelling inflation after it was halved over the past year. it comes amid increasing speculation that he'll reduce levies on inheritance income or business taxes . taxes. >> we're not going to do anything irresponsible , anything irresponsible, particularly by which i mean anything that fuels inflation because we had a big victory last week when we delivered the prime minister's pledge to halve inflation. when he and i came to office, it was over 11. now it's 4.6. people watching at home, their number one concern, they say, in poll after poll, is the cost of living crisis. this makes a difference . yes. so makes a difference. yes. so we're going to do this responsibly . responsibly. >> labour says that cutting inheritance tax while squeezing the welfare system during a cost of living crisis would be wrong

and shadow chief secretary to the treasury , darren jones, says the treasury, darren jones, says he wants to know how any cuts will be paid for. >> we've said in the labour party that we want the tax burden to come down on working people. it's the highest it has been since the second world war. we've had conservative tax we've had 25 conservative tax rises this parliament alone, rises in this parliament alone, but we can only announce those tax cuts when they can be fully funded. and if the chancellor is going to announce a tax cut on wednesday, we're going be wednesday, we're going to be looking been able to looking at how he's been able to get the money to pay for to happen. >> people who live near electricity pylons could stand to benefit by up to £10,000 over a decade . the government is set a decade. the government is set to announce the move to overcome planning objections and speed up the approval of new energy infrastructure . home owners infrastructure. home owners could get £1,000 per year a year off their household bills, although the treasury hasn't specified where that money will come from . a woman who acted as come from. a woman who acted as a fixer for people smugglers has been jailed for seven and a half

years. 32 year old ujezdec karmakar, who's from albania, helped to arrange small boat crossings from france to the uk for albanian nationals. she was arrested at her home in oxfordshire last year and she'll be deported upon her release from prison . a conservative mp from prison. a conservative mp who was found guilty of racial abuse has announced he's standing down at the next election. bob stewart racially abused a man after telling him to go back to bahrain. outside the foreign office last december , he surrendered the tory whip while he appealed against his conviction, the mp for beckenham made no reference to the recent case, but said it's been an honour and a privilege to serve . honour and a privilege to serve. a ceremony was held at the cenotaph in london today commemorating the 102nd anniversary of the first wreath laying by jewish veterans , laying by jewish veterans, service people and families of the fallen marched together down whitehall to honour those who fought and served for freedom since the first world war. the first star of david wreath was

laid in 1921 by a group of jewish ex—soldiers. this year's parade also marked the 80th anniversary of the warsaw ghetto uprising and 70 years since the end of the fighting in the korean war . end of the fighting in the korean war. an and finally, a hat once worn by napoleon, has gone under the hammer in paris. its new owner paid £2.1 million for the hat called a bicorne, which was worn by napoleon dunng which was worn by napoleon during his rule over the french empire in the 19th century, napoleon owned about 120 hats, though the one worn by joaquin phoenix in ridley scott's epic new film is just a replica . this new film is just a replica. this is gb news across the uk on tv, in your car, on digital radio, and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news. now back to nana. >> thank you, tatiana. it's fast approaching. six minutes after

5:00. this is gb news on tv, onune 5:00. this is gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua and for the next hour, me and my panel will be taking on some of the big topics hitting the headlines right now. this all about opinion. this show is all about opinion. it's theirs . and of it's mine. it's theirs. and of course, yours. we'll be course, it's yours. we'll be debating, discussing, and at times disagree, but no times we will disagree, but no one be cancelled . so one will be cancelled. so joining me today is broadcaster and journalist danny also and journalist danny kelly, also broadcaster and author christine hamilton . now, still to come hamilton. now, still to come each sunday at five, i'm joined by a celebrity, a former mp, or someone who has had an extremely interesting to a look interesting life to take a look at the job. we talk at life after the job. we talk highs, lessons learnt at life after the job. we talk highwhat lessons learnt at life after the job. we talk highwhat inextns learnt at life after the job. we talk highwhat inext onlearnt and what comes next on the outside. today be outside. and today i'll be speaking to politician who speaking to a politician who comes from an important family in he's well in uk politics, and he's well known in northern ireland. he's named after his father. he's followed father's footsteps followed his father's footsteps but has made quite a big name for and has been for himself and has been campaigning heavily against cancel culture. he'll be joining me shortly. have you worked out who the great who he is then for the great british i'm british debate this hour? i'm asking, or would you

asking, should you or would you accept £1,000 for a pilot in your back yard? because reports suggest that chancellor jeremy hunt is set to propose legislation that will offer large discounts on energy bills in return for having pylons built near your home. they're so ugly, i don't think so. so i'm asking, would you i mean, £1,000 off your bills? would that be something that you'd be out for? as ever, you in touch. as ever, you can get in touch. email gbviews@gbnews.com or tweet at . gb news. so every tweet me at. gb news. so every sunday at 5:00, i'm joined by a celebrity, a former mp , or celebrity, a former mp, or someone who's had an extreme interesting career to take a look at life outside the job. we talk , lies, lows and lessons talk, lies, lows and lessons learned and what comes next on the outside. and this week, i'm joined by a man who comes from a very important family in uk politics. now, particularly in northern ireland. i said he's named after his father and he's led calls for other political parties in northern ireland to do more to fix the stormont

stalemate, which has been seeing the country without a government for the last 18 months. he's also served as a member of parliament for north antrim since 2010. since that general election, who do you think he is ? of course it is. it's joining me in the studio is the dup mp ian paisley junior. ian hey, nina. nice. >> lovely to meet you again. >> lovely to meet you again. >> nice to talk to you to be on your show. thank you. thank you so much for coming. was so much for coming. i was wondering who that person was. it good hair. there it is your good hair. there looks great your lovely looks great on your your lovely new barnet. >> well off to the >> yes. well done. off to the side. it's a different this time. >> i'll change it. probably tonight. i can be a lot of different people if fancy different people if i fancy it. so. i want to so. so ian, i want to start with. i let's talk about with. i mean, let's talk about briefly israel . now you're briefly israel. now you're seeing situation. i'm very seeing the situation. i'm very interesting conversation an interesting conversation with an israeli spokeswoman who was telling me, you know, from their perspective, you've seen all these pro—palestine marches as well. in well. they're happening in northern ireland as well and in ireland as a whole. what's your take on all of it? >> well, i think most people i'm

heartbroken but heartbroken by any loss. but look, at war. it was look, israel is at war. it was attacked terribly and awfully . attacked terribly and awfully. >> the thing that really gets me is, is all these calls for ceasefire, yet they don't want to see the hamas surrender. >> i want to see hamas beaten and surrender. i want to see the end of that war. and i want to see a for justice the victims. >> and, of course, we want to see the kidnapped folk return to their families. >> thing really gets >> the thing that really gets me, is the way women me, however, is the way women are treated in this. >> i mean, there's mass >> i mean, there's been mass rape of israeli women. has the united committee united nations women committee said it? said anything about it? >> was any other situation >> this was any other situation in asia or africa or any other country across europe . and there country across europe. and there was mastery. there will be a woman's office inquiry at the united nations. >> it just hasn't happened . >> it just hasn't happened. israeli women not matter . israeli women not matter. >> i mean, that's the question i would pose to the great and the good. >> and those people are very quick to call ceasefire . quick to call for ceasefire. >> i haven't heard them calling for ceasefire in the ukraine. well, they want to see victory

for ceasefire in the ukraine. wethe they want to see victory for ceasefire in the ukraine. wethe ukraine.t to see victory for ceasefire in the ukraine. wethe ukraine. ito see victory for ceasefire in the ukraine. wethe ukraine. i want victory for ceasefire in the ukraine. wethe ukraine. i want to ctory for ceasefire in the ukraine. wethe ukraine. i want to see/ in the ukraine. i want to see victory for israel because israel and israel were wrongly and despicably attacked by terrorists. >> i mean , vladimir putin would >> i mean, vladimir putin would not listen to any calls , a not listen to any calls, a ceasefire. he would. ceasefire. of course he would. and probably laughing and we'll probably be laughing at who are resigning at mps who are resigning because at mps who are resigning because a hasn't happening. at mps who are resigning because a ifhasn't happening. at mps who are resigning because a if our1't happening. at mps who are resigning because a if our parliamentig. at mps who are resigning because a if our parliament had a >> mean if our parliament had a vote for a ceasefire, do you think led a think it would have led to a ceasefire? no they can't do it. it would be futile. >> like jess >> it's ridiculous. like jess phillips >> it's ridiculous. like jess phi|going. it's like, why? i are going. it's like, why? i appreciate you've got a of appreciate you've got a point of view, but you're asking. >> the lives >> and i despair for the lives that lost. the war, coui'se. >> course. >> i mean, those poor palestinian and but they're palestinian kids and but they're being by the terrorists. >> and that's a war crime. and we've actually call out we've got to actually call out the war crime of hamas terrorists palestinian terrorists using palestinian people. rights people. and abusing their rights in of course, there's over >> and, of course, there's over 2 million arab—israelis or arabs who in israel, who want who live in israel, who want israel the war because israel to win the war because that war was against as that war was against them as much the much as it was against the jewish but i fear that jewish people. but i fear that what behind of this is what lies behind all of this is a hatred for jewish what lies behind all of this is a hatred forjewish people, and therefore different things can be about israel. and that's be said about israel. and that's just appalling. that just appalling. it's still that anti—semite attitude abounds and

i've got to call it out. >> i mean, some people would would say that it's actually behind. there's a big historical context all this and context behind all of this and that didn't actually start on that it didn't actually start on october the hear a lot of october the 7th. i hear a lot of people say that, of course. but i think it's now time i think that it's now time to stop this now just come stop all this now and just come to rather than to some agreement rather than the of hamas, which appear to some agreement rather than th but he was a wonderful father, caring and father, a very caring and passionate and loving passionate dad and a very loving father. give me an awful lot of his time . even though was his time. even though there was a twin brother and three sisters and he had competing interests. yes, he was a national and local politics. he also was, however, a pastor that was his main in life. >> and i always remember my

father, first and foremost, as a minister of religion, and he was a very incredibly busy man. he edhed a very incredibly busy man. he edited a newspaper, he edited magazine. >> he wrote about 40 books in his lifetime . he was always his lifetime. he was always busy. he was always active. and i think that's the thing that really spoke to me, that this isn't a dress rehearsal now. this is about every single day making the most out of it. and if live your life for if you can live your life for a purpose and with a purpose, of course, purpose was a very course, his purpose was a very godly can live your life to >> if you can live your life to that purpose, then you will get so out of it because so much more out of it because we're here to, believe, serve we're here to, i believe, serve god i believe if we god and i believe that if we live we will live it with purpose, we will actually glorify him and enjoy live it with purpose, we will actueandjlorify him and enjoy live it with purpose, we will actueand what's1im and enjoy live it with purpose, we will actueand what's wrongd enjoy live it with purpose, we will actueand what's wrong with oy him. and what's wrong with enjoying life? no, it's great. >> you're one of a twin >> but you're one of a twin brother. what was like having brother. what was it like having a would be be a twin? i would be i'd be annoyed twin because annoyed with a twin because i don't want anybody else who looks like me. she might be thinner, better looking. thinner, taller, better looking. i'm not having it. >> is very dark >> well, my brother is very dark and we don't look and handsome, but we don't look alike at all. that's one thing i often said. it's probably just as well. kyle, my brother and me were identical twins because

were not identical twins because were not identical twins because we got up into even more trouble. could you imagine if one week he decided to come to parliament and pretend he was me? decided to? a me? and i decided to? he's a church up in oulton broad and lowestoft, gone to his lowestoft, but i'd gone to his church week and that would lowestoft, but i'd gone to his churcbeen week and that would lowestoft, but i'd gone to his churc been hilariousd that would lowestoft, but i'd gone to his churcbeen hilarious andit would lowestoft, but i'd gone to his churcbeen hilarious and we ould lowestoft, but i'd gone to his churcbeen hilarious and we would have been hilarious and we would have been hilarious and we would have too much when have been hilarious and we would havwere too much when have been hilarious and we would havwere growing much when have been hilarious and we would havwere growing up.:h when have been hilarious and we would havwere growing up. if when have been hilarious and we would havwere growing up. if we when have been hilarious and we would havwere growing up. if we had n we were growing up. if we had have identical. have been identical. >> we're still close. >> we're still very close. >> we're still very close. >> like good >> we're like really good buddies. joke with me. buddies. he wants joke with me. he and i've known you longer than anyone else, your own than anyone else, even your own mother. that's absolutely mother. and that's absolutely true you were there true because you were in there together. true because you were in there tog that's pretty cute, isn't it? >> that's pretty cute, isn't it? yes. you feel you've got that yes. do you feel you've got that special connection? i think there is. >> i think twins have there is. >> i there twins have there is. >> i there is twins have there is. >> i there is a twins have there is. >> i there is a sense have there is. >> i there is a sense there, ve that. there is a sense there, you know, that's just our you know, that that's just our socialisation. were together socialisation. you were together for long and buddies. for so long and buddies. >> do you make of what's >> so what do you make of what's going in irish politics at going on in irish politics at the moment, though, because you've got stormont who haven't been standing for been talking or standing for like 18 months. a lot people like 18 months. a lot of people don't understand. what don't really understand. what can it to us? what can you explain it to us? what what is it? >> very simply, obviously with the protocol and the windsor framework, fix framework, it didn't fix the friction exists between friction that exists between northern ireland and the rest of

the . the uk. >> northern is an >> northern ireland is an integral part the united kingdom. >> most of our trade, 80% of our trade with gb, and yet trade is done with gb, and yet this protocol and the windsor framework kept friction in that trade and has damaged our trade . trade and has damaged our trade. and the only way we could get people our political people to respect our political views that that has change is views that that has to change is by boycotting political by boycotting the political institutions as it's starting to have effect. the windsor framework was a step in the right direction. other right direction. there's other things that need be done. things that need to be done. i mean , it probably surprises mean, it probably surprises quite lot people , but if quite a lot of people, but if they into their local they go into their local supermarket in england, supermarket here in england, they're northern they're probably buying northern ireland food produce. we feed a lot of the united kingdom with poultry, red meats , eggs, for poultry, red meats, eggs, for example, 80% of all eggs hatched in northern ireland come to come to gb. so we're the breadbasket for the uk , but that trade is for the uk, but that trade is being fractionalised and we want to make sure that there's a free flow in that trade and that people understand that if we don't have free flow , our don't have that free flow, our farms damaged. farms will be damaged. >> businesses will be put >> our businesses will be put into ruination and that has got

to challenged and if we were to be challenged and if we were in assembly not properly in an assembly not properly challenging afraid challenging that, i'm afraid that it would just be brushed to the side on our businesses. >> we'd told to go find >> we'd be told to go find business elsewhere, business and sales elsewhere, but not prepared do but we're not prepared to do that. of the united that. we're part of the united kingdom we're going kingdom and we're going to be treated the same with all the benefits of part of the benefits of being part of the united with all the united kingdom and with all the burdens being of the burdens of being part of the united kingdom. i pay the same taxes. everyone in the united kingdom pays the same taxes. we're for special we're not asking for special treatment for treatment. we're asking for equal treatment. treatment. we're asking for eqlso treatment. treatment. we're asking for eqlso howment. treatment. we're asking for eqlso how would you see that, >> so how would you see that, that playing out? would that work? >> w- w“ work? >> well, think there has >> well, well, i think there has to be a recognition that the changes that we've already got in the windsor framework have to go further and if we get go a bit further and if we get that in terms of the friction, that's one huge box ticked . we that's one huge box ticked. we then have to show that northern ireland never be treated ireland will never be treated like i for like this again. i mean for a government indeed for a conservative government, a conservative and unionist government to have taken a part of the united kingdom said, you really don't matter. interesting statistic . northern ireland is statistic. northern ireland is about 2% the uk's population, about 2% of the uk's population, yet we're over 7% of the uk's

armed forces . we contribute armed forces. we contribute major to the food of the united kingdom. so food security and all those things. and yet we were treated so badly , we've got were treated so badly, we've got to something in place that to put something in place that shows ireland shows that northern ireland can neven be shows that northern ireland can never, be treated so badly never, ever be treated so badly again by a parliament here. >> a lot of people are worried that we will. northern ireland may unify with the rest of ireland . is that a thing that ireland. is that a thing that may that you see happening in the very near future? >> i don't think it will happen . >> i don't think it will happen. l, >> i don't think it will happen. i, i think that the countries are very, very different. and member the people in member mustafa, the people in northern ireland work for the for the british state in some way, whether that's civil service teachers, doctors, lawyers. i mean, they're all paid by the british state. paid for by the british state. it's very, different it's a very, very different setup. republic is setup. the irish republic is more tax haven for american more of a tax haven for american corporations and doesn't have the public sector employment that we have . but as well as that we have. but as well as that, there is a view that, you know, historically we're part of a greater kingdom .we're part of a greater kingdom. we're part of the fifth or sixth largest kingdom world. why would kingdom in the world. why would

you up ? you know, that you give that up? you know, that benefits everyone, no matter what their views are. and i think it would be disastrous to give and just don't give that up. and i just don't think it will happen. >> you say but then, >> but you say that, but then, of course, we left the european union. what's on that ? union. what's your take on that? were we right to do that? well it was a free vote. >> and if you're in a club for over 40 years, as we were and the time you're asked, do over 40 years, as we were and the want:ime you're asked, do over 40 years, as we were and the want to e you're asked, do over 40 years, as we were and the want to stayj're asked, do over 40 years, as we were and the want to stay in; asked, do over 40 years, as we were and the want to stay in it?.ked, do over 40 years, as we were and the want to stay in it? and do over 40 years, as we were and the want to stay in it? and you you want to stay in it? and you actually want to get actually say, no, we want to get out, there's something out, i think there's something wrong club. and there wrong with the club. and there clearly was something wrong with wrong with the club. and there cleeclub. as something wrong with wrong with the club. and there cleeclub. to something wrong with wrong with the club. and there cleeclub. to somethito wrong with wrong with the club. and there cleeclub. to somethito david| with the club. to be fair to david cameron for the years before he granted referendum, granted the referendum, he did everything he could to persuade europe to fix europe that they needed to fix the and they ignored the problems and they ignored him. of course, the him. and then, of course, the referenda thought referenda came and he thought that it. he did? that he would win it. he did? yes. you know, that he would keep in and as it keep us in europe. and as it transpired, people wanted out transpired, no people wanted out because wrong. now, because they got it wrong. now, at i think if at that point, i think if cameron had have gone to cameron had have gone back to europe told you so, europe and said, i told you so, you fix this, we you need to fix this, maybe we would got a faster fix to would have got a faster fix to the problem. we've had but the problem. we've had. but certainly . there's certainly brexit hasn't. there's much more that could be done to

make brexit better and we've got to keep working on to make to keep working on it to make sure works for all the sure that it works for all the citizens of the uk. sure that it works for all the citi.and of the uk. sure that it works for all the citi.and of sunak(. sure that it works for all the citi.and of sunak right to bring >> and is sunak right to bring cameron then? do you cameron back then? do you think it's call? it's his call? >> really focussed on >> i'm not really focussed on the it, but . the personalities of it, but. but what's important is what can the foreign secretary do on the world he's got many world stage? he's got so many big he's already, as world stage? he's got so many bigknow, he's already, as world stage? he's got so many big know, ioveralready, as world stage? he's got so many big know, lover in aady, as world stage? he's got so many big know, lover in the ', as we know, been over in the ukraine. he has the israeli problem, of course, was problem, of course, he was instrumental, he instrumental, cameron when he was minister instrumental instrumental, cameron when he was the minister instrumental instrumental, cameron when he was the french;ter instrumental instrumental, cameron when he was the french with 1strumental instrumental, cameron when he was the french with regards ntal instrumental, cameron when he was the french with regards tol with the french with regards to libya, still unsolved . libya, a problem still unsolved. and he needs to tap into that and the and believe it or not, the situation in northern ireland falls to the foreign secretary the windsor framework falls within the foreign so mr within the foreign office. so mr cameron, i'll be at your door. i need these things fixed, but i'll be back to you. mr cameron . i'll be back to you. mr cameron. so david cameron will have his work cut out for him . work cut out for him. >> well, listen, it's really good to talk to you. thank you. >> talk to you for coming in. >> talk to you for coming in. >> you, sir. good to >> thank you, sir. so good to get your insight. and i'm going to finally then, to ask you finally then, do anybody looking get anybody who's looking to get into politics, young people, anybody who's looking to get into poli a:s, young people, anybody who's looking to get into poli a:s, yof ng people, anybody who's looking to get into poli a:s, yof ng peorare because a lot of people are probably looking now. probably looking on now. nigel farage in jungle. farage is going in the jungle.

yeah. so hopefully he will yeah. and so hopefully he will inspire a new generation. what would young would you say to any young people thinking about getting into is into politics? well politics is about change. >> wanting to >> politics is about wanting to change and the change something. and the question of question i have a lot of interns. come me and interns. they come to me and i say to them this question. tell me something. you to change me something. you want to change in street your in your local street and your local community. and if they have for change and for have ideas for change and for improvement, got improvement, i know they've got a political them a political seed within them that wants grow because it's that wants to grow because it's about active and for about being active and vocal for your community for and the people and about people around you and about positive change. and what positive change. and that's what politics about . politics is really about. >> lovely to talk to you. >> and so lovely to talk to you. will be watching nigel in will you be watching nigel in the of course. the jungle tonight of course. >> thank you. so hope he survives. >> i hope so. he doesn't do a paul borrow, paul borrow. i'm hoping nigel won't do that. >> no, no, nigel, nigel, look, he's been with some other creepy crawly, he'll do okay. oh crawly, so he'll do okay. oh very good. >> i like that. ian paisley, junior, thank you so much. >> you. thank you. >> thank you. thank you. >> thank you. thank you. >> and course, my outside >> and of course, was my outside guest, ian paisley, junior mp for democratic unionist for the democratic unionist party in north antrim. well if you're just tuned in, welcome on board. it's coming up to 20

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>> it's just fast approaching. 24 minutes after 5:00. this is gb news. don't forget you can stream the show live on youtube. i'm nana akua. it's time now for the great british debate this houn the great british debate this hour. and i'm asking, would you accept £1,000 for a pylon ? now, accept £1,000 for a pylon? now, before i do that, though, i must beat a lovely message from jackie. jackie says, what a lovely, spoken gentleman lovely, soft spoken gentleman ian is, because i just spoke to ian is, because i just spoke to ian paisley earlier. a ian paisley earlier. makes a huge from raised huge change from the raised voices their voices trying to get their points across. well we're going to get back to that in a minute, but you accept but anyway, would you accept a pylon back it's pylon in your back yard? it's been reported that households closest to new pylons and electricity substations could receive money off their annual energy bills under plans to set to be announced by the chancellor, jeremy hunt, on wednesday . now the move will wednesday. now the move will come alongside plans to halve the time it takes deliver new the time it takes to deliver new electricity networks to seven years and prioritisation of the rollout of electric vehicle charging points. so i'm asking would you accept a £1,000 pylon, a £1,000 for a pylon in your

back yard ? well, i'm joined now back yard? well, i'm joined now by peter edwards, former by peter edwards, a former editor labourlist. brian editor of the labourlist. brian cat, physicist engineer , and cat, physicist and engineer, and also benedict spence, political commentator for right. i'm going to start you, peter to start with you, peter edwards. a pylon in your back yard, and yard, a thousand pounds, and it's thing you'll get it's an annual thing you'll get potentially i doubt i'd be offered it. >> thing is most people >> and the thing is most people wouldn't in wouldn't be offered it in ireland they ireland where they have a similar ireland where they have a simit's only within 200m. so the >> it's only within 200m. so the proportion population is proportion of the population is will impact on is will have any impact on is absolutely and it has absolutely minuscule and it has very little effect on energy bills which up by 50% over bills which are up by 50% over two years. and the planning system, this . i system, i didn't know this. i did have to look it up. but building electricity, transmission takes transmission equipment takes about 12 years. so it's incredibly slow. so it's not tackling either of those problems, infrastructure or energy bills. i'm very underwhelmed . underwhelmed. >> mm well, the bottom line is they are going put new they are going to put some new using locations as using some new locations as well, should imagine, because well, i should imagine, because it's, know, that's what it's, you know, that's what it sounds like will so it sounds like it will be. so it doesn't it's just doesn't sound like it's just going be alongside the going to be alongside the current one. so you could end up being fire for being in the line of fire for one them. benedict spence

yes. >> i mean , i would if it's you >> i mean, i would if it's you know, a sort of a regular thing. and i understand point, and i understand peter's point, which is quite which is that this is quite a sort of a relatively it's not going to affect that many people. think it's more people. but i think it's more about shifting the dial about sort of shifting the dial on like planning and on on things like planning and on just rather broad, just sort of rather broad, obstinate opposition to things being anywhere near being built anywhere near anybody. i think it's one of those things that will perhaps sound to lot of sound quite good to a lot of people it might up people who it might not end up impacting. but think that impacting. but i do think that it's a bit of a sort of a piecemeal gesture to really, you know, trying sort piecemeal gesture to really, you kn cajole trying sort piecemeal gesture to really, you kncajole people ying sort piecemeal gesture to really, you kn cajole people into sort piecemeal gesture to really, you kn cajole people into not ;ort of cajole people into not opposing basic things like energy infrastructure, then i think you're on a bit of a hiding to nothing. i think people need to be made to understand, you can only really have sort proper economic have sort of proper economic growth easily growth if you have cheap, easily available electricity. that means a sort a constantly means a sort of a constantly upgrading national grid that means that are going to means that pylons are going to go where people go into places where people don't to be. but, you don't want them to be. but, you know, the alternative is your bills up. bills continue to go up. everything else continues get everything else continues to get more a result of more expensive as a result of that. this some that. but if this does go some way towards encouraging people not against

not to vote against infrastructure that is in their own interests anyway all own interests anyway and i'm all for yeah, i'd absolutely for it. and yeah, i'd absolutely take ground every now for it. and yeah, i'd absolutely takethen. ground every now and then. >> we still. why not reopen >> but we still. why not reopen some of those coal . i'll be >> but we still. why not reopen some of those coal. i'll be i'd be opening coal mines and things like that rather than building all of this this is to support the new electrical sort of revolution that's supposed to take so that can all take us all so that we can all drive electric now. brian drive electric cars now. brian cat well , but we spoke about cat well, but we spoke about this on friday as well. >> what i want to know is why do we need new pylons, new rights of way new infrastructure we don't really need? what we need is to expand the capacity of the existing infrastructure . so existing infrastructure. so i strongly suspect that what's being done here is to enable new rights of way so they can monetise the 2 to 4 times as subsidised a new offshore wind farms and put that energy onto the grid. it's got nothing to do with batteries because you can do all that by simply increasing the capacity of what you've got. you do you have in the

countryside, you'd have to have some of these piles , as some of these small piles, as they it, and replace the they call it, and replace the poll as they call them in poll pigs, as they call them in america , transformers that poll pigs, as they call them in amyup a , transformers that poll pigs, as they call them in amyup on transformers that poll pigs, as they call them in amyup on polesansformers that poll pigs, as they call them in amyup on poles .1sformers that poll pigs, as they call them in amyup on poles . but mers that poll pigs, as they call them in amyup on poles . but basically are up on poles. but basically we've got the grid we need. we just have to make it increase its capacity city if it if they're doing it to to in monetise increased renewable energy offshore that's making £179 per megawatt hour, which is what i suspect they're doing. then it's a pure cost to monetise the subsidy racket . monetise the subsidy racket. >> so this move , if they could >> so this move, if they could actually increase the grid capacity without these pylons , capacity without these pylons, is that what you're saying ? is that what you're saying? >> well, i don't know exactly , >> well, i don't know exactly, but they could certainly do it using the, the, the rights of way they've got to build their existing infrastructure. the pylons the lines that everybody will know in the countryside . will know in the countryside. you don't have cables in the ground in the countryside like you do in the city. have you do in the city. you have wires on poles that 11 wires up on poles that are 11 kv, 11,000v. so you know, and if

you're doing it locally in a city, then the wires are under the ground and they're going to have to be made fatter. what you don't is new pylons and don't need is new pylons and this might a this is you might need a replacement pylon , but you replacement pylon, but you certainly new rights certainly don't need new rights of energy of way to send the energy through to you. >> but this seems to me takes years to build these things. surely yeah. look, look, peter, if somebody said to you that you're have a pylon in you're going to have a pylon in your backyard , would that would your backyard, would that would your backyard, would that would you feel offended by that? would you feel offended by that? would you that or. you be up for that or. >> well, think someone else >> well, i think someone else i think it was benedict use the word piecemeal. >> feel i'd feel like that >> i'd feel i'd feel like that i'd it. and i'd be underwhelmed by it. and obviously, time limited obviously, it's a time limited penod obviously, it's a time limited period if period period. you know, if you've high energy bills, you've got high energy bills, then that's for life. >> so getting a personal subsidy for a few years doesn't change that, i'm afraid . that, i'm afraid. >> what we really need is cheaper energy . and i know it'd cheaper energy. and i know it'd be if just read out the be boring if i just read out the labour manifesto, not labour manifesto, so i'm not going to do that. >> bit of it, but the >> it gives a bit of it, but the one thing would like to do one thing they would like to do is up a national energy is set up a national energy company because would be company because it would be extremely expensive to

renationalise an energy company. >> need to a few >> you'd need to have a few billion down back billion down the back of the sofa. a sofa. but they've pledged up a new called great new energy company called great british obviously british energy, which obviously start with customer start with a lower customer base. some industries, base. but in some industries, particularly well, particularly rail as well, having provider is having a national provider is quite . quite popular. >> well would never have >> well well, i would never have privatised a lot this anyway. privatised a lot of this anyway. i absurd that we did i think it's absurd that we did because these are vital resources, as benedict. >> i completely agree with that. and i think something that and i think it's something that you're sort a you're seeing sort of a cross—party on it. cross—party consensus on it. more and more people feel and you're right to raise the railways on that as well, is that are sort of, you that these are sort of, you know, naturally, know, these know, naturally, you know, these this like, our sort this is, if you like, our sort of our national and of our national heritage. and these things these are fundamental things that run that you need in order to run a country. i think people look country. and i think people look at headwinds. at the global headwinds. they see what happens when one country with another country goes to war with another and say, which and they say, well, which are the countries succeed? the countries that succeed? they're the ones that have the monopoly sources of monopoly on their own sources of electricity like electricity and things like that. russia has not, that. that's why russia has not, in fact, lost the war, as everybody said going everybody said it was going to do because it do in ukraine because it controls what resources do in ukraine because it coneeds what resources do in ukraine because it coneeds ultimately,|t resources do in ukraine because it co needs ultimately, ll resexports it needs ultimately, and exports a mean, i'm a great deal of it. i mean, i'm going always back when it

going to always back when it comes to electricity, i'm always going about long term going to bang on about long term planning, term planning, long term infrastructure. and me infrastructure. and that for me is to about is always going to be about nuclear that's thing nuclear energy. that's the thing that think always be that i think we should always be looking prioritise above looking to prioritise above everything else. but i also think again , think ultimately that again, we're talking what is we're talking about what is britain's resources ? britain's natural resources? >> island made of >> well, it's an island made of coal. >> e we're going e!— e we're going to sort of >> and if we're going to sort of bndge >> and if we're going to sort of bridge the gap in the short term to nuclear power to building nuclear power stations, we might as well try to subsidise the cost of that and energy policies and keep our energy policies down over next down by over the next six, seven, years, however seven, eight years, however long it reactors it takes to get those reactors online. burning coal. i know online. burning the coal. i know it's universally popular, it's not universally popular, but do. but that's what i'd do. >> i read piece in >> well, i read a piece in the telegraph that they'd telegraph that said that they'd actually dated the actually overestimate dated the how fast the planet would warm or something like that. >> there was a piece that was telling us that they'd actually got it, got the figures wrong and overestimated and they've overestimated it and they to happen they said it's going to happen quicker than it actually will happen. that happen. and that that is a problem. tweaks problem. so all these tweaks that making, it's that they're making, it's worrying whether they're worrying that whether they're actually necessary and ultimately, brian, who would own that? so national grid which belongs to us, right as a state,

will be us. but then of course, we don't have control over the cost of the energy anyway. so how we pay? how will they how will we pay? how will they give the £1,000? will these give us the £1,000? will these be that out of be subsidies that come out of our taxes will be added your our taxes will be added to your bills or in some way, shape or form? >> will either. it'll be a cost to the taxpayer or a cost to the or the energy supplier. by the way, i find myself in huge agreement everybody here. agreement with everybody here. i don't think if we sat around the table, we wouldn't disagree on anything. cheap, table, we wouldn't disagree on anything.energy cheap, table, we wouldn't disagree on anything.energy on cheap, table, we wouldn't disagree on anything.energy on a cheap, table, we wouldn't disagree on anything.energy on a capableeap, plentiful energy on a capable infrastructure and we need it now. and that's it. and the cegb were doing a great job at that until they got privatised and sold off. >> and had they been left in the cegb, that's the central electricity generating board who used to do all this stuff. >> they used to be the power stations look after the grid. it was all integrated system. so and the basic point, if they've been left to get on with it, they would have migrated to nuclear power through to gas , to nuclear power through to gas, to nuclear. by now we'd be well on the way. >> what is it? i'm running out

of time, so i'm going to ask you individually, benedict spence, would a pylon for would you accept a pylon for £1,000 a year your in £1,000 a year off your bills in your yard? your back yard? >> yeah. can prove to me >> yeah. if you can prove to me that will improve that it will improve the efficiency cheapest efficiency in the cheapest of the grid, yes. the national grid, then yes. >> about you, brian? yes or >> what about you, brian? yes or no ? no? >> uh, no. on principle, because it's a waste. the money could be much better spent in another way on the on developing a on the grid. on developing a proper, better grid. proper, cheaper, better grid. >> peter edwards well, i think brian's answer is very good. >> i think because it's >> i think no, because it's a bad idea. >> we'd like the money, but >> we'd all like the money, but it's ill considered, isn't it? >> yeah. all right. lovely. thank you. >> yeah. all right. lovely. thal'llyou. >> yeah. all right. lovely. thai'll take three pylons then. >> i'll take three pylons then. >> i'll take three pylons then. >> three. you >> you'll take three. thank you very brian. >> you'll take three. thank you vercat brian. >> you'll take three. thank you vercat brian peter edwards. >> cat and also peter edwards. thank your thoughts. so thank you for your thoughts. so that's question. what do you that's the question. what do you think? a pylon think? would you accept a pylon in ? this is gb in your back yard? this is gb news on tv online and on digital radio. akua. that's radio. i'm nana akua. that's what asking the great what i'll be asking the great british what you british debate. what do you think ? you'll the thoughts think? you'll hear the thoughts of hamilton think? you'll hear the thoughts of danny hamilton think? you'll hear the thoughts of danny first,|ilton and danny kelly. but first, let's your latest news with let's get your latest news with tatiana . nana

tatiana. nana >> thank you very much. first to some breaking news this hour. gb news understands that russell brand has been interviewed by police, man in his 40s police, a man in his 40s believed to be the actor and comedian, attended a police station in south london on thursday . he was interviewed thursday. he was interviewed under caution by detectives in relation to three non—recent sexual offences . we'll bring you sexual offences. we'll bring you more on this story as we get it. the white house says negotiations to release hostages held by the hamas terror group in gaza are at a very sensitive stage. it comes as israel's ambassador to the us told abc news he's hopeful a significant number of hostages will be released in the coming days. qatar which is home to many hamas leaders, has played a key role in mediation during the conflict. more than 200 hostages were taken by hamas on the 7th of october. so far, four have been released . the chancellor been released. the chancellor isn't ruling out tax cuts in next weeks. autumn statement jeremy hunt told gb news the government's acting responsibly and says he won't make any

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afternoon. >> welcome. if you're just join me, where have you been? there's only 21 minutes to go. i'm nana akua sorry. that was a very old song and it was actually 21 seconds. i'm akua. this seconds. but i'm nana akua. this is gb news. it's lost on most people. they're looking at me thinking, what? we're live on tv, online and on digital radio now continuing . it's time for now continuing. it's time for the great british debate. this houn the great british debate. this hour. would you hour. and i'm asking, would you accept pounds for accept a thousand pounds for a pylon in your back yard? now, it's been reported that households new pylons households closest to new pylons and electricity substations could up to £1,000 off could receive up to £1,000 off their annual energy bills under plans set to be announced by chancellor jeremy plans set to be announced by chancellorjeremy hunt on chancellor jeremy hunt on wednesday . okay. let's see what wednesday. okay. let's see what my panel maker that joined wednesday. okay. let's see what myauthor maker that joined wednesday. okay. let's see what myauthor and er that joined wednesday. okay. let's see what myauthor and broadcasteroined by author and broadcaster christine hamilton and also journalist broadcaster danny journalist and broadcaster danny kelly. sorry, wrong way round. that's right. so they that's my fault. right. so they make it sound like if you already live near one, they might make a bigger one near you. but i suspect this will extend to other areas because they need to increase capacity. all over the country. you all over the country. would you accept all over the country. would you acc well, a pylon in all over the country. would you achell, a pylon in your >> well, a pylon in your backyard sounds sounds like a

very uncomfortable medical euphemism. i never even thought about that. you would need to go to doctor you. to the doctor if you. >> danny . trust you your >> oh, danny. trust you in your backyard . backyard. >> okay, let's look at the practicalities of it. i mean, honestly, i know. >> and this is. oh, sorry. >> and this is. oh, sorry. >> i just mocked all very serious middle class , middle, serious middle class, middle, upper class accent there. >> do forgive me . >> do forgive me. >> do forgive me. >> do forgive me. >> do i have a middle? no, i don't think you do. i just. i didn't notice. anyway, never mind. back to pylons. okay. backyard pylons backyard ? >> 7- >> no, 7_ >> no, £1,000. ?_ >> no, £1,000. i 7 >> no, £1,000. i mean, it's going to take tens of thousands of pounds off the property, off the price of your house. surely anyone if you live near anyone knows if you live near a pylon. you know, it's very unpopular. people don't want to live near pylons could live near pylons and you could get about your get a grand. what about your neighbours? if number neighbours? what about if number 74 avenue i'll 74 a case? your avenue says i'll have a grand, but number 68 says, don't want a pylon over says, i don't want a pylon over there. fraught with there. this is fraught with complexities difficulties complexities and difficulties and is i think part of it and this is i think part of it is the supercharge ing of the nafion is the supercharge ing of the nation electric cars is nation with electric cars is electric cars. >> this is what it's all about,

isn't it? how many times what it's about are in it's about we are living in cloud it's about we are living in cl0|if they think that we're all >> if they think that we're all going be driving around going to be driving around town and 2050, if you and leccy cars in 2050, if you live on a terraced street, how the hell are you supposed to park how hell are you park it? how the hell are you supposed charge you can't supposed to charge it? you can't even thing. even park the damn thing. >> they'll have charging >> maybe they'll have charging cables pylons. >> maybe they'll have charging cabyeah. pylons. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> in backyard. the backyard. >> backyard. it's a great idea. oh oh, i don't know. >> oh, dear. i don't know. i mean, there is so much detail that we need to know about this. i you the on i mean, you put the picture on the enormous the screen of this enormous great you imagine that great pylon and you imagine that coming up outside your backyard. are i mean , as are you back door? i mean, as i understand and i really no, understand it and i really no, no detail about this, that if you're going to be within 200m of one of these things, you're going you would be eligible. but supposing sort of 202m supposing you're sort of 202m away from it, i think it's all fraught. but on the other hand there is precedence. france for example, if they're going to drive a motorway through somewhere they're somewhere and they're going to drive they drive it through your land, they pay drive it through your land, they pay enough money to make pay people enough money to make them not worry. if they were them not worry. or if they were going they're going going to drive, they're going to allow driven allow a motorway to be driven through your house in france by

your land wants your land or your land wants your land or your compulsory your property compulsory purchase. we that here and purchase. we do that here and but pay people better. they but they pay people better. they pay but they pay people better. they pay people so they think, oh, fine, worth me doing it. so fine, it's worth me doing it. so i wouldn't though have a pylon for it's because it'll be for a limited i can imagine it'll be for a limited time. ten years apparently. so it'd be £10,000. for a limited time. ten years appand tly. so it'd be £10,000. for a limited time. ten years appand the so it'd be £10,000. for a limited time. ten years appand the bottom)e £10,000. for a limited time. ten years appand the bottom line 0,000. for a limited time. ten years appand the bottom line is)00. for a limited time. ten years appand the bottom line is that >> and the bottom line is that that £1,000 that they're subsidising will subsidising these people will actually taxes . actually come out of your taxes. yeah. so think that you're yeah. so you think that you're getting money not getting the money off, but not really, be a bit really, because it'll be a bit like they said like remember when they said that going subsidise that they're going to subsidise people afford the people who couldn't afford the electricity because the price has that has gone higher? well that was a loan took against loan that we took out against our own money that was then paid to energy company us and to the energy company us and then eventually it back then we eventually pay it back in that's in taxes. yeah, but that's i reckon that'll be a similar model. >> you don't even get a grand in your bank. it'll be taken off the bill say but then i'll tell you a year's all they have to do. >> what if they change the energy price cap so it's higher. so get much of it. >> the people who actually get this if it ever this thousand pounds, if it ever comes, i actually it

comes, i actually can't see it happening because i know it's fraught and it's such a complex thing. it's half planning. it's half really , isn't it? half bribe, really, isn't it? >> oh, it's really a bribe. that's what it is. right. even planning what i would have hoped by now that pylons are getting less ugly . less ugly. >> if we've got to have the damn things, let's have less ugly power. of course, the ultimate is to have them all underground. but can't afford that. is to have them all underground. butwell,an't afford that. is to have them all underground. butwell, apparently:hat. is to have them all underground. butwell, apparently it's. is to have them all underground. butwell, apparently it's in some >> well, apparently it's in some places difficult to put places it's difficult to put them there's them underground because there's so much going on underground. but why so much going on underground. but doing why so much going on underground. but doing this why so much going on underground. but doing this is why so much going on underground. but doing this is to why so much going on underground. but doing this is to increase we're doing this is to increase the electricity grid , power on the electricity grid, power on the electricity grid, power on the grid when we actually the grid when we could actually we've still got coal. >> well, your coal, for >> well, one of your coal, for god's sake. >> one of your foursome for was it of them. three of them. it four of them. three of them. yeah. said exactly that yeah. earlier said exactly that we we be going we should be we should be going all for nuclear and we've all out for nuclear and we've got goodness . how many years of got goodness. how many years of coal left underground. let's just get it out. >> there's nuclear >> there's loads of nuclear plants as well. plants in france as well. >> should have been >> yeah. we should have been building plants for building nuclear plants for years now it years gone by there. now say it takes to bring takes ten years to bring a decent on. well, we should decent one on. well, we should have started ten years ago. 13 years nothing. that's years of tory do nothing. that's what had. what we've had.

>> problem with these >> and the problem with these pylons is, of course, they're made you made out of steel. steel you need you're going to need coal. so if you're going to build these it means build all these things, it means you're going import the steel you're going to import the steel . are changing all . so because we are changing all our that our steel furnaces so that they're elected so that we can't use make the steel, i don't know the complexities, but i do understand and that we won't be able to make steel properly here. that's an issue we're here. so that's an issue we're going to have to import cheap steel somewhere like china steel from somewhere like china who of coal mines who have thousands of coal mines and they're still lord cameron will sort that for us. >> back to the leccy car >> just go back to the leccy car thing. talking to thing. so i was talking to someone who's working with the police. the police are realistically consider police. the police are realist future consider police. the police are realist future an consider police. the police are realist future an electricynsider police. the police are realist future an electric fleetr police. the police are retcars,uture an electric fleetr police. the police are retcars, which|n electric fleetr police. the police are retcars, which just ectric fleetr police. the police are retcars, which just is:ric fleetr of cars, which just is impractical . think about it. impractical. think about it. that's a car . that's a car. >> it's a car chase. no big is a cop. >> car is constant on the road. okay. so when one shift finishes, another shift starts when you've got these big heavy sort of 4x4 suv police cars on the motorway with the armed cops in them, that will take about how long is that going to take to if a tesla type to charge if it's a tesla type facility, it's going to take an houn facility, it's going to take an

hour. cannot police hour. you cannot have a police car the for hour. car off the road for an hour. >> crazy. it's keystone cop. >> that's a bit of a joke, isn't it? it's a bit like this stool, by the way. >> i keep slipping off it. i just electric car. just say buy an electric car. >> not doing it. >> i'm just not doing it. >> i'm just not doing it. >> may i just say nana? that really suits you. what's that called? eye? called? above your eye? >> no the. the >> an eyebrow? no the. the parting. the makeup. >> an eyebrow? no the. the parthe the makeup. >> an eyebrow? no the. the parthe makeup.makeup. >> the makeup. >> the makeup. >> what's eyeshadow >> oh. what's eyeshadow eye? oh, shoot . shoot. >> ei- f.- f.— >> shadow. oh, thank you. daniel pink . pink. >> sparkly. sparkly. >> sparkly. sparkly. >> want ? >> what do you want? >> right. >> right. >> well , listen, it's electro >> well, listen, it's electro charged eyeshadow. very nice. well, listen , as ever, today's well, listen, as ever, today's show is nothing without you and your views. so let's welcome our great british voices. their opportunity to be on the show and us what they think and tell us what they think about we're about the topics we're discussing. i've got three of you. start with you. i'm going to start with you, david balm in watford, a pile in your back yard can of pile on in your back yard can of the ointment, please? >> . >> nana. >> nana. >> the answer would be no. >> the answer would be no. >> even for a £10,000 cash for life . life. >> not a chance in hell . i would >> not a chance in hell. i would lose far more if it went to resell the property plus the health concerns. and people

don't talk about it. >> people unfortunately do who are prone to cancer say brain cancer. >> cancen >> it's exacerbated by a pile on anywhere near the property. that's why people don't want them. >> well, i don't know whether that's proven, though, because people have talked about cancer and they and pylons and i think they found there wasn't actually found that there wasn't actually any real evidence, say there was nana. >> could you imagine the amount of money sued for if it of money to be sued for if it was proven they came out and said, it's true? >> yes, you're going to get brain cancer, though no government would earth to authorise that action. >> i can tell from personal >> all i can tell from personal experience, far but so experience, but so far but so far, people who got cancer far, people who have got cancer for reason living so far. for no reason living so far. >> europol. listen, i hear you . >> europol. listen, i hear you. but so far there's been no evidence to suggest that that is the case. that's that's just going the evidence. they did going by the evidence. they did some there some tests and found that there was evidence of any was no evidence of any difference between people really near and actually the near to a pylon and actually the fact that it would have on you, it was minimal you'd it was minimal and you'd probably radiation from probably get more radiation from other and around the other things and around the atmosphere that. let's go atmosphere than that. let's go to philip hoy in hertfordshire.

philip go . oh, no, i wouldn't philip go. oh, no, i wouldn't have one. >> and well, yeah, i wouldn't have one for the simple reason that i don't think they're necessary . necessary. >> all of your people so far have been talking about two different things. they've been conflating the issue. there's transmission, which is what the pylons are, and sources of energy. and we do need new sources of energy, nuclear. but we've got old source of energy, coal and oil . we've got old source of energy, coal and oil. but the we've got old source of energy, coal and oil . but the reason coal and oil. but the reason i really don't think it's going to happenis really don't think it's going to happen is because eventually people are going decide that, people are going to decide that, well, not what they well, ev cars are not what they really and it's really want. exactly. and it's happening more and more. >> i mean , year to two years >> i mean, year to two years ago, i went to buy a car and i said i wanted a diesel. and the guy said, oh no, no, you want electric, you want electric. >> i said, no, i want a diesel. and he said, i've got two and he said, i've only got two diesels. i had one of those. >> no, genuinely. and it's brilliant. and i hang brilliant. and and i will hang on until and until such on to it until and until such time as they come back into

fashion . fashion. >> exactly. adrian is there in shropshire. would you accept £1,000 for a pylon in your back yard ? well nana think there's a yard? well nana think there's a bit more than just considering my back pocket to in considering this question. >> and even though we might all be to our back pocket to a certain degree, there is the environment to think about. i appreciate the fact that our infrastructure here in the country certainly needs improving, but before that happens, we've got to we need the power and the energy to put into the infrastructure and onto these pylons anyway, should that happen. these pylons anyway, should that happen . but £1,000 or actually happen. but £1,000 or actually not even £1,000, it's up to £1,000. you might only get £100. exactly >> so quickly because i've literally got about five seconds. so would you yes or no. >> lutely not, right? >> lutely not, right? >> no, absolutely not. thank you

very. >> consider the environment . >> consider the environment. absolutely not. >> thank you . david braverman >> thank you. david braverman watford, philip hoy in hertfordshire and adrian in shropshire. thank you so much. right now, very quickly , moving right now, very quickly, moving on story that caught eye on to a story that caught my eye today. harry and today. friends of harry and meghan they're desperate, meghan say they're desperate, you desperate you know, actually desperate to spend in uk, but spend christmas in the uk, but they been invited as the they haven't been invited as the royals can't them as a royals can't trust them as a source. source has claimed . so source. a source has claimed. so yeah. will they or won't they come and join their come to the uk and join their family? christine and danny, to discuss. what you think? do discuss. what do you think? do you do you think? >> t- w" >> certainly don't want them back think they'll back and i don't think they'll be be back will be back. christmas is a time people christmas is a time when people let from all the let their hair down from all the stories family in stories the royal family do in particular, when know, particular, when you you know, you about what you don't worry about what you're front other you're saying in front of other people. can't people. gosh no, they can't be trusted. they should not be allowed there for christmas. >> let your hair allowed there for christmas. >> expression et your hair allowed there for christmas. >> expression asyour hair allowed there for christmas. >> expression as you. hair down expression as you. >> sorry. >> oh, sorry. >> oh, sorry. >> radio. i'm a bald man. >> on the radio. i'm a bald man. >> on the radio. i'm a bald man. >> all we'll start >> oh, all right. we'll start that uninhibited that again. uninhibited treachery. >> a traitor. he is. how >> he's a traitor. he is. how can you invite that back into your castle ? sandringham, your castle? sandringham, wherever it is on christmas day, you would want them patted down

by security. would want to by security. you would want to scan for electronic scan them for electronic recording so recording devices. i'm ever so sorry, but he burned his bridges. how can you allow someone that back into the fold? >> well, i think the condition was that they they get >> well, i think the condition was royal that they they get >> well, i think the condition was royal security. hey they get >> well, i think the condition was royal security. so they get >> well, i think the condition was royal security. so i:hey get >> well, i think the condition was royal security. so i think et the royal security. so i think that's it's all about. that's what it's all about. >> come unless they >> they won't come unless they get security. they >> they won't come unless they get pleasecurity. they >> they won't come unless they get please don't. they >> they won't come unless they get please don't give they >> they won't come unless they get please don't give tito' say, please don't give it to them, then don't have to put them, then we don't have to put up them. up with them. >> well, they won't get off. that's right. well, it's that's it. right. well, now it's time supplement sunday where time for supplement sunday where my discuss of my panel and i discuss some of the stories that caught our the news stories that caught our eyes. what's your eyes. now, danny, what's your supplement? heaters. >> yeah. listen, >> yeah. now, listen, when you buy house, got to be buy a house, you've got to be mindful a few things. the mindful of a few things. the area, of course, your neighbours . what? want to be . what? don't you want to be living to you living next door to you? you don't to living next don't want to be living next door someone with a of door to someone with a load of dogs barking all night and throughout the morning. loud music, screaming kids, you want to of that? well, now to avoid all of that? well, now you've of you've also got to be mindful of heat pumps because neighbours have anyone who have been complaining anyone who lives someone lives next door to someone with a pump course, we're a heat pump and of course, we're all having them all supposed to be having them in the next 15, 20 years. >> dead they can >> my dead body, they can produce of produce a low constant hum of between 60db. between 40 to 60db. >> one neighbour said it's like

living, is constant. it living, and this is constant. it never stops. it's like living next airport with jet next to an airport with a jet constantly off. constantly taking off. >> oh, how awful. >> oh, how awful. >> it can't be that noisy. >> it can't be that noisy. >> that's what. that's what. that's what it pumps. 60db of. i've that they're i've heard that they're noisy rattle around good. >> i will not be having a >> well i will not be having a heat pump . because yours is heat pump. because yours is about my supplement yes about my supplement is yes i know this is my second foray into vegan versus beef burgers . into vegan versus beef burgers. we talked about it earlier. for some i've forgotten some reason i've forgotten beyond which is a plant beyond meat, which is a plant based food company, has revealed that its revenue has dropped by 9% because the demand for meat alternatives has stalled . alternatives has stalled. veganism is being edged out, meat is back on the agenda and apparently the craze is smashed. burgers whatever they are, smashed, burgers flattened, burgers flattened, burgers , but burgers flattened, burgers, but beyond meat have had to cut a fifth of their workforce. overall sales of the meat alternative industry are down by 13. pret a manger has axed 25% of their veggie, only stores, so meat is back . meat of their veggie, only stores, so meat is back. meat is of their veggie, only stores, so meat is back . meat is back. meat is back. meat is back. >> yes. i love meat marks and

spencer's non—meat hot dogs and they are amazing . what are they? they are amazing. what are they? but what made us plant something? >> you have no idea what's in it? what is it? no idea. what's in there? >> what's in it? >> what's in it? >> all? a bit moody, is it? >> all? a bit moody, is it? >> what is it? i don't know. >> what is it? i don't know. >> it's made out of plant stuff. no pigs were killed. i gave one to father in law and he to my father in law and he didn't the difference. didn't know the difference. if you them, you just shallow fry them, they're unbelievable. they really i'm really are. but listen, i'm a meat eater. a carnivore. meat eater. i'm a carnivore. like the festival. >> listen. listen. my >> listen. well, listen. my supplement. one here supplement. i've got one here now. labour have received the biggest donation from biggest ever donation from a female. a woman sir keir female. so a woman sir keir starmer finally knows one starmer finally knows what one is one. a 1 million pledged is with one. a 1 million pledged by daughter of lord sales by the daughter of lord sales sainsbury. i thought be sainsbury. i thought it might be carol vorderman. oh, the carol vorderman. yes. oh, the carol vorderman. yes. oh, the carol vorderman. yes. oh, the carol vorderman one. >> might be carol >> i thought he might be carol vorderman. who made the donation? >> you think so? no. no, >> no. do you think so? no. no, no. >> wondered. >> i just wondered. >> i just wondered. >> was lord, the daughter >> no, it was lord, the daughter of sainsbury's who made donation. >> well, sainsbury's law >> well, sainsbury's son in law sean ship, sean woodward jumped ship, didn't he was a mp. and didn't he? he was a tory mp. and then to labour. so then he jumped to labour. so there we are. then he jumped to labour. so the well, are. then he jumped to labour. so the well, listen, i've got some >> well, listen, i've got some

emails i want to read out emails that i want to read out to listen, guys, on to you because listen, guys, on today's was talking we today's show, i was talking we were chat were discussing i had a chat with the lovely ian jackie says he's lovely, lovely spoken he's a lovely, lovely spoken man. we're man. anita says, we're talking about home wales about pylons, my home in wales has pylons nearby running electricity england. think electricity to england. i think they're beautiful , but more they're beautiful, but more importantly, essential . wake up importantly, essential. wake up uk. need our power network uk. we need our power network sorted you'll accept sorted out. you'll accept anything when the power goes off. i'd love a discount on my bills . well, you be paying it bills. well, you be paying it back in taxes . and terry says back in taxes. and terry says the tories are deluded as the tories are just deluded as usual. asking earlier on usual. i was asking earlier on today's show whether taxing cutting tax could save the tories from election annihilation . and according to annihilation. and according to our twitter poll, 20% of you say yes and just 80% of you say no. on yes and just 80% of you say no. oh dear. oh, well, that's not got to say . huge oh dear. oh, well, that's not got to say. huge thank you to my panel got to say. huge thank you to my panel, journalist and author christine hamilton . christine, christine hamilton. christine, thank you. pleasure, as always . thank you. pleasure, as always. and also broadcaster and journalist danny kelly. we'll say something. >> thank you so thinner by the minute. danny smiles at the camera. >> he's with. >> he's with. >> i have danny's trousers are

going to fall off. >> thank you to you at home for your company. i'll leave you with the weather. see you next week. on . oh hello there. week. oh. oh hello there. >> welcome to your latest gb news weather forecast. we'll look looking ahead to the new working week. it's going to be a bit of a great and damp start out there. for some of us it will turn drier during the middle of the but middle part of the week, but then deal as we then a good deal colder as we head weekend. back head towards next weekend. back to here now. we've still to the here and now. we've still got area of low pressure got this area of low pressure close by. it's still got some tightly down tightly packed isobars down towards so indicating towards the south. so indicating another blustery night . also, another blustery night. also, keep eye on this of rain keep an eye on this area of rain as it moves across parts of south wales southwest south wales and southwest england squally england could turn quite squally for as that moves through for a time as that moves through elsewhere good of cloud elsewhere. a good deal of cloud around clearest the skies around clearest of the skies over east. but for over towards the east. but for most, monday most, as we start monday morning, start off on morning, we start off on a fairly note so that band of fairly mild note so that band of rain will continue to clear towards france as we go in course of the morning. so maybe a of a wet commute for some a bit of a wet commute for some of us, for many it's going of us, but for many it's going to of grey day with to be a bit of a grey day with some further outbreaks rain.

some further outbreaks of rain. it well briefly sunnier it may well turn briefly sunnier for parts of the for a time across parts of the midlands the east anglia. midlands and the east anglia. but lot us it's not going but a lot of us it's not going to be the most inspiring of start new week. but it start to the new week. but it will be fairly mild, will still be fairly mild, a little cooler it has little bit cooler than it has been the weekend. thanks to little bit cooler than it has b

house says negotiations to release hostages held by the hamas terror group in gaza are at a very sensitive stage. it comes as israel's ambassador to the us told abc news he's hopeful a significant number of hostages will be released in the coming days . qatar, which hostages will be released in the

coming days. qatar, which is home to many hamas leaders, has played a key role in mediation dunng played a key role in mediation during the conflict . but more during the conflict. but more than 200 hostages were taken by hamas on the 7th of october. so far, four have been released . far, four have been released. people who live near new electricity pylons could stand to benefit by up to £10,000 over a decade . the government is set a decade. the government is set to announce the move to overcome planning objections and speed up the approval of new energy infrastructure. home owners could get £1,000 per year off their household bills, although their household bills, although the treasury hasn't specify where the money will come from . where the money will come from. many buses and electric vehicles have been sent to albania as part of a deal to return foreign prisoners. the arrangement will see 200 albanian nationals currently jailed in england and wales sent back home for the rest of their sentence . the uk rest of their sentence. the uk has also agreed to help modernise albania's prison system. the overall deal is expected to cost around £8 million, which the government

says will save money for