democracy in. action and with the chancellor set to deliver his autumn statement on wednesday, prime minister rishi sunak says he believes in cutting taxes. >> quote, care fully and sustainably. but what does this actually mean? will we discussing all of that plus much more after your headlines with sophia . sophia. >> good afternoon. it's 12:01. i'm sophia wenzler in the newsroom . the prime minister newsroom. the prime minister says he believes cutting taxes should be done carefully and sustainably. it's one of five long term decisions rishi sunak says he's making for the economy. the prime minister says he also wants to reduce debt, build sustainable energy , build sustainable energy, support businesses and deliver world class education. his comments come ahead of wednesday's autumn statement. so now that inflation is halved and

our growth is stronger , meaning our growth is stronger, meaning revenues are higher , we can revenues are higher, we can begin the next phase and turn our attention to cutting tax. >> we will do this in a serious and responsible way based on fiscal rules to deliver sound money and alongside the independent forecasts of the office of budget responsibility . office of budget responsibility. and we can't do everything all at once. it will take discipline and we need to prioritise these. but over time we can and we will cut taxes . cut taxes. >> there are growing hopes that dozens of hostages held by hamas in gaza may soon be released . in gaza may soon be released. the us, israel and qatari mediators say a deal is edging closer. more than 200 people were taken by hamas on the 7th of october, so far, only four have been released . it comes have been released. it comes after the israeli military claimed hamas hid and murdered hostages at gaza's main hospital

. idf released a video of what it says are hostages being kept in al—shifa hospital . meanwhile in al—shifa hospital. meanwhile the first group of premature babies evacuated from al shifa hospital have arrived in egypt. gaza's health ministry says a joint operation by the un and palestinian red crescent has made the move possible . it comes made the move possible. it comes as israel continues its ground offensive. the hamas run health ministry says an airstrike on a hospital has killed at least 12 people in the north of the territory . the israeli military territory. the israeli military has also released footage which it says shows a 55 metre long terror tunnel ten metres deep underneath the al—shifa hospital. it says the footage clearly proves that numerous buildings in the hospital's complex are being used by hamas as cover for terrorist activities . hamas has denied the activities. hamas has denied the allegation , says a man has been allegation, says a man has been arrested on suspicion of murder following the death of a woman in dewsbury. officers were called to a property in ravensthorpe area last night.

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honing his skills and going on to represent england . mrjones to represent england. mrjones spoke of the honour of representing his country and winning bronze at the european blackball championships in malta . this is gb news across the uk on tv, in your car, on your digital radio and on your smart speaken digital radio and on your smart speaker. by saying play gb news now it's back to tom and . emily now it's back to tom and. emily thanks sophia now i just wanted to take a moment to sort of sit back and sort of welcome everyone to this new show. >> good afternoon, britain on yes, it's been a good morning so far. >> it's been rushing around trying to put together this fantastic show for you. this afternoon. so i do hope you're enjoying it so far. and what we're going to be going to first is something that's occurring in central london for not the first time, time, not time, not the second time, not the time, not the the third time, not the hundredth but yet more hundredth time, but yet more just stop oil protests. tom >> indeed, starting from midday

andindeed >> indeed, starting from midday and indeed going across this week, we've got new protest sites. just stop. oil is beginning its take to the streets campaign. and there is so much more that they're going to try and disrupt and really get in the way of. >> but essentially, it's yet more threats from this group, is it not? they will continue to disrupt people's lives until they win. what exactly win means, presumably it means no new oil and gas. >> you say that, emily, but they're called just stop oil and yet all this weekend they've been tweeting about gaza , israel been tweeting about gaza, israel and palestine. they've staged sit ins about a ceasefire it seems to me that they're not just about oil at all. they're about many more things. but we will be speaking to a spokesperson from the group and get side of the story get their side of the story as well. do to hear all well. we do want to hear all perspectives on this program on. good afternoon, britain. >> yes, real will there be >> yes, real soon, will there be there in the thick of it for us, too, in just one moment. and just one more thing. i don't

know you noticed, tom, but know if you noticed, tom, but there's footage there's some footage that's going around that has been called shocking . now, this is called shocking. now, this is about something different about something rather different . this is indoctrination . this is about indoctrination in our schools, or at least campaigners calling it that campaigners are calling it that because essentially one school teacher using the story teacher has been using the story of a transgender teddy. people are saying it's indoctrinating children. well i suppose we'll get to that a little bit later. >> plenty to discuss about what's being taught in schools, but let's cross now live to trafalgar square and get the very latest with gb news reporter ray addison. now ray, we understand people are beginning to gather what exactly are just stop oil planning ? are just stop oil planning? >> well, yes. >> well, yes. >> you can see behind me, there's around about 25 members of just stop oil that i can see. in fact, i'll step out of the way just so you can have a quick pan across. ben cam pan across. we can show them. we can see there two men at the moment just holding just stop oil sign in and about 25 and around, around about 25 activists, similar number of activists, a similar number of press and police officers as

well. and it's a bit weird because we've got this beautiful location here on a rather cold but quite sunny monday afternoon here in trafalgar square, and we've got lots of school groups . we've got lots of school groups. so just a minute ago they've gone now , but we had a large gone now, but we had a large group of school, school children who just been to the who presumably just been to the national gallery enjoying their monday afternoon school trip. and their right was this and then to their right was this group of just stop oil activists . now, we spoke to one of their organisers earlier on, and he was saying that this is going to be starting point every day be the starting point every day at , they going to at midday, they they're going to gather here an unprecedented gather for here an unprecedented seven days of disruptive action across london, and they wouldn't reveal where they're going to move on to today. however we do know they are planning to move on once everybody has arrived here and then they're going to start to cause the kind of disruption that we have seen since was formed back disruption that we have seen sir2022. was formed back disruption that we have seen sir2022. of was formed back disruption that we have seen sir2022. of courses formed back disruption that we have seen sir2022. of course , formed back disruption that we have seen sir2022. of course , we ned back disruption that we have seen sir2022. of course , we know ack disruption that we have seen sir2022. of course , we know that in 2022. of course, we know that there's been well over 2000 people arrested who've taken part in that action. and we know

that over well over 130 people have actually ended up doing prison time as well. but it hasn't put the organisation off. it hasn't put their members off and we've got the latest round of action starting here today. seven days initially, however , seven days initially, however, they did tell me that they're planning to just keep going every single day until the government do what they want. any other causes down there being represented because we often see as tom said just a moment ago , that we may it may moment ago, that we may it may be a just stop oil protest, but you often see lots of other causes that join in the fun . causes that join in the fun. >> well , all know no specific >> well, all know no specific flags or causes per se that i can see, although a number of the activists are wearing a number of badges, you know , the number of badges, you know, the cnd badge and all that kind of stuff , and cnd badge and all that kind of stuff, and some of the sort of typical kind of images and similar campaigns and causes that you might expect. >> but in terms of dedicated protests , it's just that just protests, it's just that just stop oil. one that i can see at

the moment, although i know that it kind of merged into a ceasefire campaign. one of the protests that was here the other day, we do know that a number of people here, at least two people here, were at a previous protest on saturday. we believe they may have been arrested at that protest. and so that'll be interesting to see what is happening and why they're here today and how the police will react to them. police, of course, being very, very responsive. to responsive. they just want to try and contain as much as try and contain it as much as possible . and liaison officers possible. and liaison officers are to that they're are saying to me that they're just try and persuade just going to try and persuade them to disrupt ordinary them not to disrupt ordinary london london motorists lives. however you know, it remains to be seen how how how successful thatis be seen how how how successful that is pretty placid right now, standing on trafalgar square, waiting to go on and cause disruption . disruption. >> it's pretty interesting that there are sort of police behind you standing there just sort of waiting to see what happens next. i suppose there can't be

any pre—empt active arrests going on, but we do know these people are gathering in order to then cause potentially illegal disruption . in disruption. in >> yeah, absolutely . that's >> yeah, absolutely. that's that's their stated aim. although at the moment, as far as i'm aware, they're not committing any crimes. they're standing peacefully . the police standing peacefully. the police will be liaising with them to see what their intentions are . see what their intentions are. if they were to cause some kind of disturbance to the peace here in trafalgar square, then of course that will be dealt with. but the stated aim is to meet here, to gather here, and then to go on to a secondary location . that's where the major disruption will be caused. however if this is the start of seven days of major disruption, they may not be very happy with they may not be very happy with the numbers only around, like i said, 25 so far. and more more interest from the press and police officers. as you can see, we'll have a little pan around to show you, just give you a bigger picture of as you bigger picture of this as you can see there, you can see the

large group obviously large group of obviously tourists mostly tourists, tourists here, mostly tourists, looking confused . people looking quite confused. people coming up to us, actually, and asking going on and asking us what was going on and why are people doing this. then we got the police were we got the police who were coordinating of coordinating lots of schoolchildren. then if ben schoolchildren. and then if ben just pans around here, you can see right in of now see right in front of ben. now that's press and that's the press pack. and then up steps we've got just up on the steps we've got just stop oil. what? what few there are of them right now. however that's not to say that that number isn't going to swell. the meeting was 12, but you meeting time was 12, but you know, was 12 or 1230 know, maybe it was 12 or 1230 and they're going to go on and cause disruption . cause major disruption. >> well, perhaps some people are waiting for their lunch break if they're at work, assuming they have jobs . have jobs. >> i know. goodness me, ray, thank you so much. it warms the hearts to few hearts really, to see how few people have turned out there, although make think although it does make me think it does make me think with all the there, with all the attention there, with all the attention there, with all the with police the press there, with the police there, might this be a diversionary tactic, might just stop actually , we have got stop oil actually, we have got some sort of secondary some sort of secret secondary location are location that people are gathering in. just a thought,

we'll keep our cameras and eyes peeled as it peeled for disruption as it happensin peeled for disruption as it happens in central london throughout the next few hours . throughout the next few hours. but i have to say, in terms of opfics but i have to say, in terms of optics alone, perhaps not the best start for just optics alone, perhaps not the best start forjust stop oil's best start for just stop oil's extraordinary week. >> i'm sure that ray will it will be our eyes and ears on this. he'll find out if there is a secondary. >> follow them. yeah. >> follow them. yeah. >> them. follow >> he'll chase them. follow them. you date on them. keep you up to date on what happens because we have seen, not? how much seen, have we not? how much disruption seen, have we not? how much disrupin n seen, have we not? how much disrupin london and across the cause in london and across the country, actually, not least on our motorways? >> absolutely . >> absolutely. >> absolutely. >> and in our national galleries. >> but moving from hopefully away from disruption and towards perhaps stability or even growth because business leaders and senior politicians, including the chancellor have attended the confederation of british industry conference in london today , with the cbi calling on today, with the cbi calling on jeremy hunt to save the uk from low growth and lost opportunities . opportunities. >> yes, and with the autumn statement just a few days away, pressure is mounting for the government to look at tax cuts

and start to ease the burden on businesses and people . businesses and people. >> well, joining us now is liam halligan, our very own economics and business editor with on the money . now, liam , it is and business editor with on the money. now, liam , it is a money. now, liam, it is a fascinating week of course, in the run up to the autumn statement, there is so much speculation and so much campaigning. we've heard some words from the prime minister this morning as well, just give us a little rundown on what are all of the rumoured things that the chancellor is considering for wednesday's statement that indeed, i think the chancellor, jeremy hunt, and indeed prime minister rishi sunak , they've minister rishi sunak, they've done a bit of a what we call in the journalism trade, a reverse ferret. >> in the last 72 hours or so since it became clear last week that inflation is sharply down. it fell from 6.7% during the year to september to 4.6% during the year to october . year to september to 4.6% during the year to october. sunak meeting his pledge that

inflation was going to halve since january . the prime since january. the prime minister in a speech this morning and indeed the sunday papers were full of speculation about this. the prime minister in morning said in his speech this morning said now is time tax cuts. now is the time for tax cuts. now is the time for tax cuts. now now that we've got inflation under control . now, he talked under control. now, he talked about cutting taxes in a serious and responsible way and that, of course, raises huge speculation for wednesday's statement, the autumn statement. it's kind of like a budget statement that you get in the spring. we think it's going to be wednesday , may going to be wednesday, may lunchtime. and there are some tax cutting options now. very much on the table being purple , much on the table being purple, peacefully floated in the press . peacefully floated in the press. let's have a look at some of them. the first one, tom and emily, is to make permanent what we call full expensing , to we call full expensing, to extend full expensing, full expensing was introduced earlier this year and it lasts for three years. and it means that companies can offset that their investment against their

corporation tax bill. so if companies have got deep pockets, they can raise finance, they can then invest and save money on their tax. of course, small companies often don't have the ability to invest, so that really helps big companies more . really helps big companies more. a second one that's being very heavily promoted by my paper, the sunday telegraph, is to cut inheritance tax . now, the cliche inheritance tax. now, the cliche is for just percent of households pay inheritance tax, but lots more think that they're going to and it's a very unpopular tax. your basically taxing what's already been taxed dunng taxing what's already been taxed during someone's life when they die. so we may see a raising of the threshold of inheritance tax from £325,000 a year. we may see the rate of inheritance tax 40% cut back. a third option is to raise is frozen tax thresholds . raise is frozen tax thresholds. what does that mean? well the thresholds that kicks in when you pay thresholds that kicks in when you pay the basic rate of income tax, about 20 for grand 80 odd grand, 45 odd grand when you start paying the upper rate of

tax. they've been frozen from two years ago under rishi sunak when he was chancellor all the way until 2028. that drags more and more people into those top tax brackets . so mid—ranking tax brackets. so mid—ranking nurses teachers are now top nurses and teachers are now top rate taxpayers and that means more of us pay more tax. the final idea is one that i've been floating is to increase the personal allowance from £12,570. what does that mean ? that means what does that mean? that means that you start paying tax when you start earning just over £12,000 a year, which is which is about a third of the average wage. these little part time jobs often or lower income jobs. some economists like me are saying, just raise that to 20 grand. take 4 or 5 million low income workers out of tax altogether. then you won't have to pay them in work benefits. it's much easier, quicker. it makes pay and it's the kind makes work pay and it's the kind of tom and emily, which of thing tom and emily, which will get of the economic will get a lot of the economic inactive city in this country moving . we've got a couple of moving. we've got a couple of million people who haven't really gone to work post really gone back to work post lockdown. and i personally think

if you raise that starting rate of income tax to £20,000, you'll get a lot more of those people of income tax to £20,000, you'll get atot more of those people of income tax to £20,000, you'll get ato work; of those people of income tax to £20,000, you'll get ato work. they'llse people of income tax to £20,000, you'll get ato work. they'll pay eople of income tax to £20,000, you'll get ato work. they'll pay more back to work. they'll pay more tax. won't cost the exchequer tax. it won't cost the exchequer anything medium term. anything over the medium term. it could make money. liam, it could even make money. liam, the chancellor is all of this and thank you for setting out all of those different areas which could be cut. >> is this a little bit >> but is this a little bit wishful thinking, about wishful thinking, talking about cutting taxes? because looking at rishi sunak's words, he's been quite careful, hasn't he ? been quite careful, hasn't he? he said over time we can and cut and will cut taxes. he's talked about being very responsible and what else did he say? sustainable with the potential for tax cuts. do you think we actually will see any big changes when it comes to our taxes? will we see cuts? what do you think? i i would have said probably not up until the last 2 or 3 days. >> i'd have said and i've been saying it a lot on your show that i think if there are if there are tax cuts in this spnng there are tax cuts in this

spring budget or in this autumn statement on wednesday, they'll be aimed at business. so things like extending full expensing, maybe giving high street businesses holiday on their businesses holiday on their business rates, which they pay. but the online retail giants don't pay . that seems to be don't pay. that seems to be something that's harming our high street. i'd have originally said i think these tax cuts on wednesday will be oriented towards business, but i think with what chancellor and with what the chancellor and particularly minister particularly the prime minister have this have been saying just this morning, going to be very morning, it's going to be very hard them. now not to hard for them. now not to heavily signal or implement personal tax cuts, too. that's why i think they could be working on a plan to raise these personal tax thresholds or at least unfreeze them to end that stealth tax. now, it may be there's been a fashion in recent years for chancellors and prime ministers to announce tax cuts that come in in 6 or 12 months time. so then they get kind of two positive sets of headlines for the announcement and then for the announcement and then for the announcement and then

for the implementation itself, it may be that they do something along those lines , announcing along those lines, announcing something that will come in in the spring in order to give households and companies more of a break so they can plan. but look, there's actually very little fiscal . headroom here. little fiscal. headroom here. there's a bit more than we thought. but the public finances are tight. tax cuts will have to be funded in the first instance by borrowing . and emily and tom, by borrowing. and emily and tom, we're currently spending over 10% of all government revenue on debt interest. it's the second biggest thing on the government's balance sheet after the nhs . so there's not much the nhs. so there's not much room to play with here. but i think the fiscal pressure on the prime minister and the chancellor is actually outweighed now by the political pressure so many of their backbench was absolutely baying for tax cuts. there's talk about letters going into sir graham brady possible votes of no confidence. again, the tories changing leader yet again before the general election. yes, believe it or not, it this is

being talked about. so i think to calm the nerves while it will mean taking a slight risk with financial markets to calm nerves within the party and indeed to try and break that stranglehold that keir starmer's party has on the polls. a 2025 point lead in the polls. a 2025 point lead in the polls. a 2025 point lead in the polls now for labour i, i do think the tories will come up with some kind of personal tax cut on wednesday and i wouldn't have said that just a few hours ago. >> i think the conservatives are certainly managing expectations, but thanks for the politics behind it because that's the truth, the opposition behind it because that's the trlcoming the opposition behind it because that's the trlcoming from “he opposition behind it because that's the trlcoming from within)osition behind it because that's the trlcoming from within the ion behind it because that's the trlcoming from within the party is coming from within the party rather than from labour when it comes cuts liam is so comes to tax cuts and liam is so right what has changed in right about what has changed in the even 12 hours with the last 24, even 12 hours with regard is being discussed. >> we heard from the chancellor, we've heard from prime we've heard from the prime minister are moving minister that things are moving quickly. so much quickly. liam, thank you so much for and of for your updates and we will, of course with you. if course be back with you. if there's more developing there's anything more developing there. course more there. but of course lots more coming for you this afternoon. >> yes. islamist suspects go >> yes. as islamist suspects go missing illegally crossing missing after illegally crossing the we'll be asking why the channel, we'll be asking why britain's borders seem so

impossible to police . impossible to police. >> and we'll be getting to the thoughts of our panel as we're joined by sunday telegraph columnist janet daley and former labour defence minister ivor kaplan for their takes on the stories that britain is talking about. this is good afternoon , about. this is good afternoon, britain on

thursday from six till 930 . thursday from six till 930. >> good afternoon.

>> good afternoon. >> britain, i suppose we should say that after every outbreak, shouldn't we? we should be finding. we're finding how to do this as it goes. but we want to talk now about migration because this as it goes. but we want to ta|course about migration because this as it goes. but we want to ta|course we've migration because this as it goes. but we want to ta|course we've seen|tion because this as it goes. but we want to ta|course we've seen hundredste of course we've seen hundreds more people cross the channel in small boats, particularly as the weather has become calmer in recent days. yes >> and there have been reports that we can't verify them entirely. reports over the weekend and in the papers this morning about potential terror suspects using the channel, using small boats and then disappearing into this country. so, of course, there are ongoing national security concerns about the situation. and so we're going to talk to kevin saunders, former chief immigration officer at the uk border force, because he knows a thing or two about what's going on. kevin, there have been reports over the past couple of days about potential terror suspects using the channel to get into the uk and potentially potentially plot wing terror attacks in this country after they've crossed

using the channel in this way. how widespread is this problem ? how widespread is this problem? well this isn't this isn't anything new. >> this has been suggested for ever since the boats, small boats have been operating . the boats have been operating. the big problem is that we just have noidea big problem is that we just have no idea who is coming across the channel none whatsoever. we've seen murderers, we've seen rape lists. we've seen every anybody you can think of coming across. and we just don't know who it is and we don't catch them unless we're incredibly lucky . we're incredibly lucky. >> i suppose that's the issue. of course, many people we know throw documents over board before arriving via small boat. there are other ways that people could claim asylum into the country. people could come in on tourist visas, for example, and then claim. but choosing to go by small boats , i suppose, by small boats, i suppose, presents all manner of issues because it is that element of

anonymity . anonymity. >> yes , and that's why they do >> yes, and that's why they do it. the reason these people are risking life and limb is because they don't want to be identified . and you're quite right, the bottom of the channel is full of identity documents that have been thrown into the sea and people just do not want to know , people just do not want to know, because despite what the politicians tell us, tell you it is very, very difficult to assess an asylum claim if you don't know who the person is, you don't know where the person's come from, you don't know their name, you don't know their date of birth. you don't know anything about them at all. that's why it takes so long to assess an asylum claim. >> i think a lot of people simply do not want to believe that there could possibly be a national security threat coming from the people who are crossing the channel many people will talk about how every single person on those boats is escaping persecution . an is escaping persecution. an is

definitely an asylum seeker and people don't seem to want to see what the evidence before their eyes that unfortunately some people may be using this route for nefarious means. people may be using this route for nefarious means . another for nefarious means. another story that we've seen and this is something that keeps being considered by the home office or at least reportedly home office ministers considering granting an effective amnesty to thousands of migrants who've crossed through the channel. is this just a way of them getting through the backlog? surely that must be a security threat in one way or another? well everything about it is a security threat . about it is a security threat. >> the trouble is we have heard about amnesty and we've had amnesties before or we've had a number of amnesties under different governments . it different governments. it doesn't really make sense to try and spend ages assessing a claim. if you know that the person is from a country that you can't return them to an example is the yemen. we're not

going to be returning anybody to the yemen at all. so you may as well throw your hands up in the air. you won't give them asylum. you'll give them humanitarian protection . and basically that protection. and basically that means they stay in the uk. so that means that essentially anyone who arrives by illegal means to this country from the yemen will therefore have the right not to stay in the uk . right not to stay in the uk. more or less, yes, because we can't return people to the yemen because it's a war zone and it's well, we just can't we're not allowed to. international law will not allow us to return people to a war zone. >> isn't this the idea behind having a safe third country whereby people who have come to the uk illegally can be removed to in a safe way? and of course there are questions over whether or not rwanda is that safe country. the supreme court , of country. the supreme court, of course, last week highlights the risks that they think people

might be sent on from rwanda to unsafe places. but if those risks can be ironed out, would rwanda therefore be a solution to that problem ? to that problem? >> oh, yes. yes completely. but the trouble is , is at the the trouble is, is at the moment, the supreme court doesn't believe what the rwandan government is saying. they there is nothing wrong with the policy. the policy is quite legal. the trouble is that the rwandan government has , rwandan government has, according to the supreme court , according to the supreme court, dodgy human rights issues. so that's why we can't remove them at the moment to rwanda. well let's see if let's see if a new treaty irons that out. >> of course, many battles, not least legal and parliamentary to go forward and try and iron that one out. >> cabinet ministers are fighting with one another. when are they not about whether about whether we ignore the european

court of human rights, whether this treaty is going to work. lots of people with different views. hardline then lots of people with different views. will hardline then lots of people with different views. will we hardline then lots of people with different views. will we everdline then lots of people with different views. will we ever solvethen others. will we ever solve this problem very much problem? thank you very much indeed. former indeed. kevin saunders, former chief immigration at the chief immigration officer at the uk force. we've lots uk border force. we've got lots more coming up for you in today's show. yes not least as controversial liberty . controversial liberty. >> harian yiva millay wins as argentina's presidential election . we'll be asking is the election. we'll be asking is the populist tide unstoppable? there he is with a chainsaw. this is. good on . gb good afternoon, britain on. gb news. it's 1232. >> i'm sophia wenzler in the newsroom. the prime minister says he believes cutting taxes should be done carefully and sustainably. it's one of five long term decisions. rishi sunak says he's making for the economy . the prime minister says he also wants to reduce debt, build sustainable energy , support sustainable energy, support businesses and deliver world class education. his comments come ahead of wednesday's autumn

statement . there are growing statement. there are growing hopes that dozens of hostages held by hamas in gaza may soon be released. us israel and qatari mediators say a deal is edging closer more than 200 people were taken by hamas on the 7th of october. so far , only the 7th of october. so far, only four have been released. it comes after the israeli military claimed hamas hid and murdered hostages at gaza's main hospital . idf released video of what it says are hostages being kept in al shifa hospital . meanwhile, al shifa hospital. meanwhile, more than two dozen premature babies evacuate from al shifa hospital have arrived in egypt. gaza's health ministry says a joint operation by the un and palestinian red crescent has made the move possible. it comes as israel continues its ground offensive of the hamas run health ministry says an airstrike on a hospital has killed at least 12 people in the north of the territory . a man north of the territory. a man has been arrested on suspicion of murder following the death of

a woman in dewsbury. officers were called to a property in the ravens. thorpe area last night. west yorkshire police says a woman in her 20s was found seriously injured and she died a short time later. and you can get more on all those stories by visiting our website at gbnews.com .

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news is. >> good afternoon in britain. now we wanted to get and see what you have been writing in at home throughout the program and there have been a huge deluge of emails, not least on our last conversation about britain's borders. i wanted to bring one comment from gordon , who has comment from gordon, who has written in saying , i've sent written in saying, i've sent this about nine times and no one's yet answered it, so i think it's fair chance that you get this heard just stop the manufacturers making the small boats all over europe . they must boats all over europe. they must know they're selling them to people smugglers. i suppose it's an but i but i do think an idea, but i but i do think that sometimes people do buy small for legitimate small boats for legitimate purposes. perhaps it's not purposes. so perhaps it's not the solution the most practical solution i've seen. the most practical solution i've see border control asked that >> border control asked that exact question and they say that's a very good point, but presumably as soon as one suppuer presumably as soon as one supplier gets stopped , then supplier gets stopped, then another pops up, just as with the smuggling gangs themselves, sometimes people do use boats

for, you know, civic purposes. >> well , yeah, okay. >> yeah, well, yeah, okay. >> yeah, well, yeah, okay. >> but they're getting bigger and bigger and more robust, aren't they? >> you ever been a rigid >> have you ever been on a rigid inflatable boat bouncing inflatable boat just bouncing across the. it's quite fun. >> possibly have to rack >> quite possibly have to rack my brain, but yes, on on just stop oil. lots of people are getting in touch to say we shouldn't covering it. we shouldn't be covering it. we shouldn't be covering it. we shouldn't the shouldn't be giving them the oxygen press. others oxygen of the press. but others think they should think that perhaps they should go delhi and sort out go off to new delhi and sort out the smog for starters. the smog there for starters. yeah. >> or indeed, beijing . but i'm >> or indeed, beijing. but i'm not i'm not sure that not supposed i'm not sure that they'd be quite allowed to protest in same way that protest in the same way that they united kingdom. >> absolutely >> well, i am absolutely delighted say that. joining delighted to say that. joining us the studio is us now in the studio is columnist the sunday columnist for the sunday telegraph, janet daley, who's written fantastic written an absolutely fantastic piece since yesterday, believe piece since yesterday, i believe it . it went live. the it was. it went live. and the former labour mp and defence minister kaplan , thank you minister ivor kaplan, thank you very indeed for your time. minister ivor kaplan, thank you very you indeed for your time. minister ivor kaplan, thank you very you wantedd for your time. minister ivor kaplan, thank you very you wanted to>r your time. minister ivor kaplan, thank you very you wanted to startrr time. minister ivor kaplan, thank you very you wanted to start with|e. minister ivor kaplan, thank you very you wanted to start with the now you wanted to start with the autumn statement. we've been heanng autumn statement. we've been hearing sorts about what we hearing all sorts about what we might to expect. heard might have to expect. you heard liam halligan probably earlier describing potential for tax describing the potential for tax cuts. what do you think, janet?

well definitely the well all sorts is definitely the word i have never in my journalistic life, which goes back longer than i would care to admit, heard such conflicting briefing. >> we were being briefed on the papen >> we were being briefed on the paper. we are a conservative newspaper . so would newspaper. so you would expect us good relationship us to have a good relationship with the government. and we were being inheritance with the government. and we were bei|was inheritance with the government. and we were bei|was definitely inheritance with the government. and we were bei|was definitely on1eritance with the government. and we were bei|was definitely on1erit table tax was definitely on the table a now that's all a week ago, and now that's all up the air. and then we were up in the air. and then we were heanng up in the air. and then we were hearing at one point that there was going to be any tax was scarcely going to be any tax cuts at and then they're on cuts at all, and then they're on again because rishi sunak was talking morning about talking this morning about confidently . the confidently about this. the autumn statement is a kind of mini—budget, right. which gordon brown introduced. they used to be something called budget purdah. probably aren't old purdah. you probably aren't old enough to remember this, but there was a time when no government supposed government minister was supposed to that anticipated to say anything that anticipated the measures in the budget because affect the because it could affect the markets and now the markets. >> when the chancellor of the exchequer resigned for having briefed a journalist about the budget in 1960s. >> , yeah. and then we all >> yeah, yeah. and then we all stood by that. that's right. many, years . that's right.

many, many years. that's right. in political circles. yeah, sure . yeah. and the sort of . yeah. and to see the sort of rate change that janet and colleagues in the media have had to put up with seemed to me to be completely inappropriate. i just too much and just think it's too much and it's chaotic. >> it makes the government look even shambolic . to some extent. >> we've gone, we've gone from no information to some information to too much contradictory information . is contradictory information. is this not perhaps full circle? there's so much being said that in effect, nothing's been said at is really ?you in effect, nothing's been said at is really ? you have to ask >> is it really? you have to ask yourself, is this some deliberate policy? is that i think this is clever. deliberate policy? is that i think this is clever . yeah. or think this is clever. yeah. or is it actually a shambles ? and is it actually a shambles? and it as if now they it really looks as if now they were flying a kite over the inheritance tax and they got scared off because labour politician eyes were going to say, oh, you're giving tax cuts to the rich and it will only help the richest. that's well, i can't use the word, but that's complete nonsense. it's 20 years out . the very rich now out of date. the very rich now can escape housing wealth. yes, but also the very rich find it much easier to escape

inheritance tax. with a globalised economy, you can move your assets around the world. so it's the squeezed middle that get hit by this tax . everybody get hit by this tax. everybody who owns a house in the south—east england going south—east of england is going to inheriting tax in to be hit by inheriting tax in another years time. it'll be another ten years time. it'll be another ten years time. it'll be a of the population. a huge swathe of the population. >> there real case. sorry. >> there is a real case. sorry. oh, no. go on, go on. i'm just going say there a for going to say there is a real for case looking at the whole case looking again at the whole inheritance tax issue. i don't think doubts that. think anyone doubts that. >> to interrupt >> i'm just going to interrupt you, second. we've you, ivor, for a second. we've got pictures coming in now got live pictures coming in now from trafalgar square where it looks has been some looks like there has been some sort advancing protest, sort of advancing protest, perhaps a slow walk. i wonder if we can speak to ray addison, who is there live. we can't speak to ray at this time, but it does look like there is some movement there. we're going to see if we can establish contact with with ray. i wonder ray , can you hear ray. i wonder ray, can you hear me ? me? >> i can, tom? yes? can you hear me? can indeed. >> what is going on there on the square? so we understand that the just stop oil protesters,

which has swollen to about 50 people now, are going to march down whitehall toward parliament. >> so they've left the steps of trafalgar square now just in front of the national gallery, and they're about to go onto the road now, the police are flanking them . there's a number flanking them. there's a number of photographers as well. as i said, the group is now about 50 large and they're about to go onto the road . now we're about onto the road. now we're about three metres away from the edge of the pavement now and they're about to enter the road . about to enter the road. >> they're being escorted by police officers or police community support officers and yet no arrests are being attempted . they're about to step attempted. they're about to step onto the road. oh, a policeman is shouting. let's listen to what he's saying. seven the pubuc what he's saying. seven the public order act. >> you're more than welcome to carry protest. if you carry in your protest. if you block the road, of course , block the road, of course, disruption. you could be arrested under section seven of the public order act . the public order act. >> very interesting indeed , >> very interesting indeed, isn't it, to hear him say that making them know that if they

block , presumably the roads, block, presumably the roads, they're that they may find themselves in a cell? shall we leave ray there for now and come back to our discussion in the studio ? studio? >> we'll be back to ray if there are any dramatic arrests being made, because what you were saying very saying there was very interesting inheritance tax. >> you think that it needs to be completely reworked . completely reworked. >> there is an absolute case. and of that janet has and part of that janet has already said about taking taking inheritance as is now and inheritance tax as it is now and changing it so that it's more beneficial to everyone rather than just a small group of people. i think about 4. if you look at the actual numbers, actually not for long. not for long. >> well , it'll be 12% in long. >> well, it'll be 12% in about ten years. >> no, but whether that's a thing that either either party would do, but it does seem to me to be a sensible thing forward. it was it was wrong when i was a government minister and i can remember us talking about it, but nothing ever happened. yeah. and that's a frustration as you know, tom. >> and yet now it seems that more retail orientated policy is

being discussed. we've been heanng being discussed. we've been hearing this morning about national insurance or raising thresholds for income tax. i mean , janet, do you think that mean, janet, do you think that this is perhaps the albatross that rishi sunak has worn around his neck now for two, 2.5 years since the national insurance increase for which he was slated , probably the reason why he lost to liz truss two summers ago, possibly . ago, possibly. >> i mean, the national insurance thing was was quite extraordinary. it had quite extraordinary. it had quite extraordinary political impact . extraordinary political impact. but i do think that raising the threshold on income tax is absolutely essential. it is absurd that people are paying tax at such a low level. when i speak to america friends and i tell them the rates of tax that are paid in this country, they wonder why anybody bothers to work at all. the top rate of income tax for millionaires in america is 37, and you have to and you don't pay that until you're earning about half a million. mean , such million. i mean, such a difference. yeah, such a difference. yeah, such a difference in terms of incentive. exactly >> incentives. it's really quite

important. if they away important. but if they gave away any now for the rich, it any tax cut now for the rich, it would just be terrible. >> if you raise the threshold. so it wouldn't just be for the rich, thresholds rich, raise the thresholds at the bottom and in fact, you could leave the one i mean, they shouldn't leave the one at the top. wanted to be top. but if they wanted to be politically they do politically cute, they could do that. could the that. they could raise the threshold level threshold for the minimum level at start paying tax at which you start paying tax 12,500 to 20,000. brilliant i mean, the issue about those numbers is that simple . numbers is that simple. >> really. if you do that, you are then you're putting a lot of money into that. you probably can't do anything else that people people become more productive with. well, they do. but one thing i was just going to say about the budget and how it's it goes with with journalists, etcetera, and ministers and everything else is simply that there were sort of strict ish rules when we were in office which said there were things that gordon brown , things that gordon brown, rightly as chancellor of the exchequer , wanted to do without

exchequer, wanted to do without anyone knowing. and there was a very small group of people who knew what was actually coming out, the independence of the bank of england. >> about four people knew >> only about four people knew before the independence >> only about four people knew bethe the independence >> only about four people knew bethe bank the independence >> only about four people knew bethe bank of1e independence >> only about four people knew bethe bank of england.ndence of the bank of england. >> wasn't the >> interestingly, wasn't in the manifesto . and yet six days manifesto. and yet six days after the election in 1997, the bank was independent. you know, that was something that had been discussed in labour circles but wasn't in it because if you do that, you're going to you know, the, the, the business community could just think, oh my goodness, this is going to be terrible. >> it's got to happen. immediate as soon as it's announced. otherwise it has market moving effect. exactly. >> that's exactly what >> and that's exactly what i think it was a friday, the friday after. so obviously, thursday, the following thursday, friday, the following friday, law. friday, it became law. >> wow. we are in an extraordinary we extraordinary position where we are at the complete are briefed at the complete opposite to what we were briefed the day before . but anyway, the day before. but anyway, shall we? ivor i'd like to get your opinion. our civil servants lazy and taking liberties . we've lazy and taking liberties. we've seen tory mps seen reports here tory mps hitting out at civil servants

who working from beach who are working from beach instead from their desk presumably. >> well , if presumably. >> well, if you're working on the beach in brighton and hove yesterday, you would have been struggling because it was very, very wet, which reminded me of brighton pride this year. i'm not sure it's brighton, i think it's brighton i have in mind. killing me with your rain. so. so it's not always the best place to be. but if someone's on a beach and still doing some work, what's wrong with that? >> do think that's okay? work, what's wrong with that? >> ithink think that's okay? work, what's wrong with that? >> ithink standards?'s okay? work, what's wrong with that? >> ithink standards? surely.? work, what's wrong with that? >> ithink standards? surely. are you think standards? surely. are they are they're working or they are they they're working or are they're holiday doing some >> they're on holiday doing some work civil service a work in the civil service as a team enterprise , right. team enterprise, right. >> you're not self—employed . >> you're not self—employed. you're your own thing . you're not doing your own thing. you're not doing your own thing. you're dealing the you're dealing with the department and you're communicating and communicating with people and you're talking the policies through. i mean, one of the things that might be increasing the of arrogance we've the sort of arrogance that we've heard service heard about in the civil service is people are is because these people are isolated. they don't have to go into office and talk about into the office and talk about their discuss their their views and discuss their opinions influenced by opinions and be influenced by what colleagues think. and what their colleagues think. and that's . i mean, the that's horrendous. i mean, the

civil service, you know, this is not a club of people who not just a club of people who would do it, running a little private they're private business. they're running the government. >> last week there's going to be a diktat across government a new diktat across government that least three days a that for at least three days a week, civil servants must come into the office. i can remember it a low to me. it seems a little low to me. >> can rememberjacob >> i can rememberjacob rees—mogg saying that at one time, notes on people's time, leaving notes on people's desks, little notes business didn't make going down that route city. route to in the city. >> now , but that's their >> now, but that's their decision. yes, that's right . decision. yes, that's right. that's their you must have three days the i think days in the office. i think that's a perfectly reasonable thing to they're not thing to do. but they're not running government. running the government. >> the government. >> they're running a little whatever , business or whatever jewellery, business or insurance companies. >> the i mean, i meant >> i meant the i mean, i meant the slightly bigger business. yeah. >> but i mean, point is, >> but i mean, the point is, have you heard of tweets? i'm sure i'm allowed to say tuesday. wednesday and thursday. that's. that's the that's new that's the that's the new working week in many cities across uk. it is across the uk. it is extraordinary. getting extraordinary. yeah. getting getting public transport into work on mondays and fridays is empty. yeah. whereas i have to

say, just a little anecdote. >> my hairdresser told me that saturday used to be their big day. they were absolutely crammed , you one crammed, you know, one appointment another and appointment after another and she said, now friday as busy she said, now friday is as busy as because and she said as saturday because and she said but people come in with but a lot of people come in with their laptops and they on their laptops and they log on to their laptops and they log on to the and they say, you the wi—fi and they say, do you mind work while you do mind if i work while you do this? and they actually are working at the working on the friday at the hairdresser, somehow that hairdresser, but somehow that maybe i'm being old fashioned and about this, but and purist about this, but that's going work. that's not what going to work. >> just add >> well, i should also just add that for the first time, that today for the first time, to get to here paddington, i got on elizabeth line, which on the elizabeth line, which seems appropriate given you've got show on. yeah got this new show on. yeah i didn't even know about this new show but all show until i got here, but all the all the lines were working fine this morning, you know, and obviously i come from brighton, too. >> yeah, well, just up oil. clearly not. not able to stop. stop the tubes, although it does look like there is some disruption on the roads with a one protester, perhaps deliberately lying down there. yes. being arrested ? no. yes. being arrested? no. currently being arrested ?

currently being arrested? >> no. >> no. >> no. >> no glue they've given no glue. i think. i think they're just getting to them quicker. >> you know what the police have certainly things up when certainly stepped things up when it to just stop oil. it comes to just stop oil. they've had a lot of criticism, of over how they've of course, over how they've chosen police not police chosen to police or not police the pro—palestine protests . but the pro—palestine protests. but here we can see they are willing to drag these people off the road there. that's in central london outside trafalgar square, i believe, where ray addison is taking these shots. yeah >> and without making them any coffee first. >> these people are very passionate about their cause. janet yeah , they, i mean, are they? >> well, yeah, i suppose, but, i mean, i don't know what they're passionate about because it's so incoherent . what is it they're incoherent. what is it they're demanding? do they actually think they hold the whole think they can hold the whole country they country to hostage until they get want ? that's not get what they want? that's not what the democratic process mean. >> if any other political movement is so arrogant to decide exactly what they're going to lie in roads until i don't tax was don't know, inheritance tax was abolished other political outcome. >> yeah.

>> yeah. >> yeah. >> yeah , that'll be a long wait. >> yeah, that'll be a long wait. but i mean, this this is such an unrealistic demand as well to stop even people who are absolutely adamant about global warming and climate change and net zero and all of that admit that we're going to have to use fossil fuels for quite a few. why? >> it's called net zero, because on net you have zero carbon emissions. you accept that there is some oil and gas still used where it has to be and you offset it through other things. that's the whole half of that's the whole that's half of the word net zero. >> i mean, these i was amazed when started. when all this started. >> have you know, and >> i have to say, you know, and obviously, you watch these things like like we've seen in in last few in london over the last few weeks in terms of palestine. et cetera. but on this issue, i can't find any reason. no, there's no logic. sensible well, no. and, you know, running onto a cricket field. >> oh, yeah, yeah . >> oh, yeah, yeah. >> oh, yeah, yeah. >> what is that? >> what is that? >> jumping on? what was it? was it a pool tournament? yeah. >> oh, the snooker. snooker. yeah yeah, that yes, yeah yeah, that was. yes, somebody suggested they try it at a darts see what at a darts match and see what happened. they say

happened. they say they say stopping new oil and gas will save millions of lives. >> and there seems to be a complete. it don't seem to understand and well, at the same time has alleviated global poverty . poverty. >> at the same time, these people are complaining that the al—shifa hospital doesn't have any fuel. yes, exactly. you need the save lives there, the fuel to save lives there, but potentially not elsewhere. it like there's cognitive it seems like there's cognitive dissonance going and they and why demonstrate in why are they not demonstrate in front the chinese embassy or front of the chinese embassy or the indian embassy? >> well, i tell you why, >> well, i can tell you why, actually. you know, there wouldn't no there would wouldn't be no there would be no messing it's a very messing around. so it's a very they tried to get in the embassy . oh, god help them. yes >> i mean, the interesting thing to me just from a social point of view and my generation is how many of these people are in their 60s and 70s. >> it's the old cnd crowd. yeah. >> it's the old cnd crowd. yeah. >> the man lying on the road looked like he was. my goodness me, there is lots of people in in this whole conversation say you're our future. this you're stealing our future. this is our future . i mean, is about our future. i mean, well, your grandchild , iran's

well, your grandchild, iran's future, maybe. >> i mean, there isn't. >> i mean, there isn't. >> it's not there. it's not exactly there. greta thunberg, is it's. i just say because >> it's. may i just say because janet , we >> it's. may i just say because janet, we haven't got >> it's. may i just say because janet , we haven't got too much janet, we haven't got too much time and i want to ask you about your comment piece. oh, they time and i want to ask you about your itmment piece. oh, they time and i want to ask you about your it the ent piece. oh, they time and i want to ask you about your it the title. ece. oh, they time and i want to ask you about your it the title. corrupted1ey time and i want to ask you about your it the title. corrupted by gave it the title. corrupted by extremist islamists. the left is now openly anti—british . and you now openly anti—british. and you use the examples of recent can i point out that i don't write the headlines. i know you do. so that's why i want you to explain what you meant. >> there's now the it has become a left wing jamboree . i mean, a left wing jamboree. i mean, there are people holding up signs that say queers for palestine , the palestine state palestine, the palestine state that hamas would be advocating would murder homosexuals. they would murder homosexuals. they would regard homosexuality as a sin against god that had to be punished by death. there are young women shouting very sort of dedicated , vociferous young of dedicated, vociferous young women shouting who would be beaten to death by morality police for going out without their hair covered. i mean, this is crazy . and it's become a kind is crazy. and it's become a kind of jam for all left wing

dissident arts. and it's really i'm quite convinced , partly i'm quite convinced, partly ignorance and, you know, bonding, kind of adolescent bonding. but it's also people who are have accepted this white guilt, colonial guilt mentality in which everything that isn't west pattern is good and everything that is western is bad, all linked. >> we're looking at pictures now of just stop oil, just stop oil have been publishing on their social media feeds all weekend about freeing about freeing gaza, about being anti israel as if that's connected to the climate in any way. >> and greta thunberg. >> and greta thunberg. >> absolutely not. >> absolutely not. >> do you agree with that assessment that janet janet, janet making? janet is making? >> absolutely sensible and sensible comments about where we are? i mean, this this this is absolute lutely, not about left or right wing. i'm not even sure the british public actually are in the slightest bit interested in the slightest bit interested in left wing stuff . i think what in left wing stuff. i think what they want to know is all the usual that come when

usual things that come out when you're it's a cost. >> you're going to be a cost of living, of living, living, cost of living, etcetera, etcetera. >> just think that , you >> and i just think that, you know, to understand this know, we need to understand this ourselves. can i, can i just we do only have 15 seconds. >> so if you're brief, i was just going to say there was more to that article. i was also criticising the right wing people who are criticising the palestinian for becoming palestinian mobs for becoming too nativist . i really fear that too nativist. i really fear that they're going to be labelled fascists. and there's going to be something in that. i don't want to see that happen. >> well, thank you. >> well, thank you. >> with >> various problems with palestinian and how we palestinian authority and how we get a two solution. get to a two state solution. thank that. thank we will do that. >> thank very much for >> thank you very much for joining show, janet joining us on the show, janet daily. thank you daily. ira kaplan, thank you very indeed. be very much indeed. we'll be coming straight back to just uphill else after the uphill and lots else after the break. this is good afternoon. britain

good afternoon, britain. it is 1:00 on monday, the 20th of november, taking to the streets. >> just stop oil vowed to protest every day from today until they win . right now, until they win. right now, they're beginning a demonstration in central london and we'll be there a live yes, it's all kicking off. >> and rwanda back on the rocks . >> and rwanda back on the rocks. the prime minister faces a cabinet revolt over plans to ignore the echr and salvage his migrants policy . migrants policy. >> and mps under threat . >> and mps under threat. pro—palestine protests have targeted mps homes and offices . targeted mps homes and offices. is this action a threat to

democracy or democracy in . action >> and with the chancellor set to deliver his autumn statement on wednesday, prime minister rishi sunak has said he believes in cutting taxes but carefully and sustainably early. >> we've been discussing that, haven't we? so it's a curious one because as janet daley was saying at the end of the last hour, saying at the end of the last hour , there seems to have been hour, there seems to have been briefing on just about every side issue . the side of this issue. the government says one thing one day pretends say one thing day or pretends to say one thing or scenes says one or behind the scenes says one thing. we really don't know where we are. >> but will there be any rabbits out hat, whatever out of the hat, whatever they are , whether it's inheritance, are, whether it's inheritance, tax, who tax, income tax thresholds, who knows what? let us know what you want to see in that statement. or have you given up altogether? let we'll be discussing or have you given up altogether? let that we'll be discussing or have you given up altogether? let that we lot be discussing or have you given up altogether? let that we lot more ;cussing or have you given up altogether? let that welot more afterng all of that plus lot more after your sophia .

your headlines with sophia. >> good afternoon. it's 1:01. i'm sophia wenzel in the newsroom . the prime minister has newsroom. the prime minister has promised to cut taxes carefully and sustain ably. rishi sunak says the government can move into the next phase of fixing the economy. now the inflation has been halved. speaking ahead of wednesday's autumn statement, he identified five long term goals , which include reducing goals, which include reducing debt building sustainable energy, supporting business and delivering world class education. >> so now that inflation is halved and our growth is stronger , meaning revenues are stronger, meaning revenues are higher , we can begin the next higher, we can begin the next phase and turn our attention to cutting tax. we will do this in a serious , responsible way based a serious, responsible way based on fiscal rules to deliver sound money and alongside the independent forecasts of the office of budget responsibility . office of budget responsibility. and we can't do everything all at once. it will take discipline

and we need to prioritise . but and we need to prioritise. but over time we can and we will cut taxes . there are growing hopes taxes. there are growing hopes that dozens of hostages held by hamas in gaza may soon be released. >> us, israel and qatari mediators say a deal is edging closer. more than 200 people were taken by hamas on the 7th of october, so far, only four have been released . it comes have been released. it comes after the israeli military claimed hamas hid and murdered hostages at gaza's main hospital . idf released a video of what it says are hostages being kept in al—shifa hospital . meanwhile in al—shifa hospital. meanwhile more than two dozen premature babies evacuated from al—shifa hospital have arrived in egypt. gaza's health ministry says a joint operation by the un and palestinian red crescent has made the move possible . it comes made the move possible. it comes as israel continues its ground offensive. the hamas run health ministry says an airstrike on a hospital has killed at least 12 people in the north of the

territory . three a man has been territory. three a man has been arrested on suspicion of murder following the death of a woman in dewsbury. officers were called to a property in the ravensthorpe area last night. west yorkshire police say a woman in her 20s was found seriously injured and she died a short time later. seriously injured and she died a short time later . ofsted seriously injured and she died a short time later. ofsted is seriously injured and she died a short time later . ofsted is not short time later. ofsted is not fit for purpose, according to an inquiry. the beyond ofsted inquiry. the beyond ofsted inquiry called for transformational change and said it found ofsted as having a detrimental impact on schools , detrimental impact on schools, which some perceive as toxic . which some perceive as toxic. the inquiry, chaired by former schools minister lord jim knight and sponsored by the national education union , recommends education union, recommends a school inspection system should be overhauled. the inquiry was launched amid calls for a revamp of the uk's school rating system, which uses one word judgements following the death of headteacher ruth perry in january . and a poor player who january. and a poor player who bought a table after winning the lottery has won a bronze medal at the european championships.

neil jones had just £13 in his pocket when he and his partner won 2.4 million just before christmas in 2010. one of his first purchases was a pool table , with the 59 year old honing his skills and going on to represent england . mrjones represent england. mrjones spoke of the honour of representing his country and winning bronze at the european blackball championships in malta . this is gb news across the uk on tv, in your car, on your digital radio and on your smart speaken digital radio and on your smart speaker. by saying play . gb news. >> well, welcome back to good afternoon britain. before we kick off this hour , should we kick off this hour, should we have a very little sneak peek of our very own nigel farage undertaking? his first book, bushtucker trial in the jungle? >> yes, let's i. i see a camel udden >> yes, let's i. i see a camel udder. wow. and a sheep udder with a cow's teat .

with a cow's teat. >> there's nothing. did you prepare this yourselves? no not personally. >> no. we can't take all the credit. >> so you're smashing it? you're smashing it. >> this is bloomin tough . oh >> this is bloomin tough. oh farage feroz . farage feroz. >> it does look quite moist . >> it does look quite moist. quite kind of creamy . you have quite kind of creamy. you have to describe it in front of me. >> goodness me. >> goodness me. >> well, i'm not sure that i'd enjoy eating it. what is it on itv at 9:00? >> yeah . what was it? >> yeah. what was it? >> yeah. what was it? >> something other. it was lamb's teat . and. and. and lamb's teat. and. and. and something else . something else. >> so he's eating a lamb's teat ? >> so he's eating a lamb's teat? >> so he's eating a lamb's teat? >> yeah, to be honest. i mean, i think on a spectrum of kangaroo penis to lamb's teat, i think i'd, i'd prefer lamb's teat. i don't know, maybe that's why you get that in writing for you, tom. well, don't bring one in tomorrow. my goodness. >> allow seat. yes, i'd probably prefer that too. i think the alternative , we're quite used to

alternative, we're quite used to eating we? eating lamb, aren't we? >> it's like, is it really is a teat that different from a leg ? teat that different from a leg? >> well, i don't know. perhaps we a trial here, tom. we can have a trial here, tom. nigel us in person when nigel can tell us in person when he's from the jungle, he's back from the jungle, but i've feeling he might be i've got a feeling he might be in there for rather a long time. i people going want i think people are going to want to do the challenges. to make him do the challenges. you what i watched it last you know what i watched it last night. i watched it last night. and took and he immediately took on a leadership role. did nigel farage he started rallying the troops . he was good in terms of troops. he was good in terms of morale. he was huw thomas towards , especially when the towards, especially when the youtuber was having a tough time with the snakes. >> he was like, oh, you can do it. you're all right. don't worry. it's very tough. all the rest of it. >> i mean, bless her, she was squealing behaviour. squealing best behaviour. >> perhaps after >> i wonder if perhaps after a few not eating very well few days not eating very well around with the around the campfire with the rain as it is currently raining down in australia, perhaps down there in australia, perhaps things will bad things will get more bad tempered. perhaps the tv will get there get a bit better. yes, there were stills of were some interesting stills of nigel with his tongue out nigel farage with his tongue out with inside a and he with snakes inside a box and he was to get these stars was trying to get these stars out anyway. >> something i'd like to

>> not something i'd like to do, but there go, nigel farage, but there you go, nigel farage, ever trooper ? ever a trooper? >> well, moving from down under to slightly closer to home, the prime minister is reportedly facing a cabinet split over the government's next steps to deport migrants to rwanda following last week's supreme court ruling . court ruling. >> yes, so rishi sunak is under pressure from the right of his party to get the flights off the ground , and he's said to be ground, and he's said to be considering a strategy of just ignonng considering a strategy of just ignoring the echr echr when it comes to their rulings . comes to their rulings. >> well, let's speak now to gb news political editor christopher hope , who's alive in christopher hope, who's alive in westminster for us. and christopher, this is a big disagreement, not least about the prime minister, but more to do with the immigration minister, robert jenrick, and perhaps our new home secretary, james cleverly . james cleverly. >> that's right. all comes to down whether it's a full fat choice or a semi—skimmed one. now those on the right of the party want a full fat option

here to disregard the human rights of maybe people who arrive here illegally by boat and then are sent back to rwanda. they don't want their human rights to stop that happening. that's one idea. and we have , of course, robert we have, of course, robert jenrick is known to be a supporter of being harder to get this this through. the home secretary james cleverly is not seen to or known to be a keen seen to be or known to be a keen supporter elements of the supporter of elements of the rwanda that they were rwanda plan that they were pushing suella pushing through under suella braverman . he's nervous it braverman. he's nervous about it , as we understand. so that's where that division comes in. you've got others in the cabinet, too, alex chalk, who's the justice secretary. vicky atkins , who's the attorney atkins, who's the attorney general, have be willing general, will have be willing to overrule and move away from the kind of treaties agreements the uk has signed decades ago on the international stage . that's international stage. that's where debate is. we'll see where the debate is. we'll see probably this new treaty to probably the this new treaty to try and ensure that any migrants who are processed in rwanda can't be sent back to the countries they came from. that treaty should be published. maybe thursday, and maybe as soon as thursday, and then the actual legislation will be next week. the clock is

ticking. don't forget the pm rishi told us last week, rishi sunak told us last week, didn't want the first flight didn't he want the first flight to take off in spring? to take off in the spring? so that's it that's by may next year. it takes 21 sitting days of to parliament go through a treaty and establish it in the uk. i'm not sure how long it will take in rwanda and after that , these in rwanda and after that, these new laws about human rights and how they're treated how they're being treated must come be a big come to pass. it'll be a big battle. may seeing battle. we may be even seeing parliament over parliament sitting over christmas i'm afraid. it's christmas, i'm afraid. so. it's a big pressure on the government to get this right. but i think for many people the talking on immigration has ended and the government has got to act. that is and got . we are is understood and got. we are told by rishi sunak certainly seemed to make clear in that press i in last press conference i was in last week him . but whether week with him. but whether he delivers that will delivers on that, that will define a lot of his his record in tom, very in government. tom, very interesting indeed. >> thank you very much indeed , >> thank you very much indeed, christopher our political christopher hope, our political editor there, live from central london. this is the headache that won't go away. and most people don't actually believe that the government is going to stop the boats . no, no. they

stop the boats. no, no. they want the government to stop the boats, certainly. >> but lots more happening today . let's cross live ray . let's cross live now to ray addison just stop oil addison with just stop oil getting themselves arrested on whitehall. ray, what's the very latest ? latest? >> well, what we've seen this afternoon, tom and emily, is some pretty robust policing , to some pretty robust policing, to be honest with you. they went on to started the walk down whitehall around about 1230 this afternoon, within about three minutes, they had been arrested and taken to the side of the road here to the pavement, and then an officer came along with about 50 other officers saying , about 50 other officers saying, right, it's time to get them lifted and shifted . and now lifted and shifted. and now they're starting to pick them up and them into the police and move them into the police vans. have to say the whole thing has been quite surreal. thing is has been quite surreal. we've got the 50. just stop oil protesters, some kind of youtuber who's just been taking the mickey out of them, pretending to be a just stop oiler himself and causing all

kinds of disruption of his own. and got somebody with and then we've got somebody with a trolley speaker a shopping trolley and a speaker and united nations flag and the united nations flag playing heal the world by michael jackson. it's just an absolute circus down here. however, i have to say, the police have been very robust . police have been very robust. they acted very, very swiftly . they acted very, very swiftly. none of the hesitation that i've seen in previous just stop oil protests. and if this is a sign of how things are going to continue across this seven days of action by just stop oil, then they're going to struggle, of course, to have a lengthy protest . right now, of course, protest. right now, of course, their whole intention is to cause disruption and then get the media talking about it. so they get that message of just stopping oil. they get that message of just stopping oil . but they're in the stopping oil. but they're in the process. now. let's just turn to look at this. they're starting to people bizarre to pick people up. so bizarre when they start to move these people , they go completely people, they go completely floppy and almost in a sort of a trance like state. i've seen similar expressions on the faces of people who've just had an amazing massage, but very relaxed, very , very, very calm.

relaxed, very, very, very calm. a lot of the protesters who are being picked up and now, like i said, they're being lifted and they're being shifted and they're being shifted and they're going to stick them in they're going to stick them in the back of these police vans. and they're just getting rid of all them. now, in the middle all of them. now, in the middle of whitehall around here, of course, like i said, around 50 protesters all handled very, very quickly, very, very fast. demonstration lasted for about 100m of slow walking before they were all removed from whitehall . were all removed from whitehall. they got nowhere near parliament at all. so in that sense, if that was the aim, it was a failure . if it was to get some failure. if it was to get some attention . there's certainly attention. there's certainly plenty of press down here. >> this is absolutely fascinating thing to watch because previous protests , the because previous protests, the police have accused wrongly police have been accused wrongly or rightly, of being a bit too soft touch when it comes to people disrupt ing the roads and things. it would appear from these shots that you're getting us that the police are being quite rigorous. let's say no , absolutely. >> they're not messing around

today. >> they're not messing around today . they really do seem today. they really do seem determined . and some are determined. and some are protesters seeming to put up some kind of resistance , not some kind of resistance, not very keen to go into the van, but to the van. they certainly will be going and that is where they are heading now. as i said, well over 50 police officers and they're just doing this extremely methodically . and then extremely methodically. and then we've got about 3 or 4 different police vans as well. and they're just picking them and moving just picking them up and moving them one by one. as you can see, they're people from they're all ages of people from very young to the fairly old as well. and they are going in those vans. and this protest is well and truly over well , ray, well and truly over well, ray, thank you so much for bringing us the very latest there. >> drama on whitehall. >> lots of drama on whitehall. we'll back with you as more we'll be back with you as more happens, of course. but i'm delighted to be joined in delighted now to be joined in the studio by a just stop oil spokesperson, dr. graham bus is with us here and dr. graham, thank you so much for making the time. i'm sure i suppose it is interesting. there is this clearly this deliberate tactic

to get arrested going on. people warned by the police there if they were to disrupt the road , they were to disrupt the road, that would be a breach of the pubuc that would be a breach of the public order act. and i suppose this is a legitimate there that the police are arresting your friends and colleagues. >> obviously , we would rather >> obviously, we would rather that the government met with our very simple demand of no new oil and gas, which is, of course not just our demand, but also the demand of many organised nations around the world. even the pope supports it. the international energy agency supports it. the whole most climate scientists grasp majority support our demand. it's a very simple demand. it's a very simple demand and we will carry on until that demand is met. >> we've seen quite a lot of young people, these shots, they were older people, middle aged, i would say being dragged away some some very old actually, some some very old actually, some elderly people. but there's been quite a lot of recruitment when it comes to universal city students and a lot of university students and a lot of university students tend to be idealistic .

students tend to be idealistic. they have a worldview that they want to see implemented . some want to see implemented. some would say maybe they're not always the most common sense or rational when it comes to their polity. six and there seems to be an attempt forjust paul to recruit these young people. and i worry they get themselves into this situation when this kind of situation when they're then arrested and they may then have to spend time in a prison cell and it badly impacts their future prospects potentially, yes. >> i mean, that's a very good point. i think what you find for a start, we are talking about adults here, aren't we? we are talking about. we are. >> but, you know, young people who can the war, who could who can join the war, who could fight in wars, who could be on who could be present presenters fight in wars, who could be on who couprogram,sent presenters fight in wars, who could be on who couprogram, we're resenters fight in wars, who could be on who couprogram, we're talking's fight in wars, who could be on who c> but even if we stopped all new gas and oil in this country in the north sea, for example,

that wouldn't affect the global temperature, would it? because we see many other countries, massive economies pumping out carbon emissions. your position using fossil k isn't important, that it doesn't make any . well, that it doesn't make any. well, no, but what i would remind viewers and listeners is that, of course the uk has taken great efforts to reduce our carbon emissions, haven't haven't we? >> the reality of it is that we are not taking action fast enough. we're currently heading to conditions in which vast areas of the world will be unliveable, including we will see significant changes as we already are in this country. so we will see the collapse of our economy . we will collapse of our economy. we will collapse of our food systems, the collapse of our pensions, uninsurable housing. >> we're already stopping oil and gas here. >> stop that. okay, so let's deal with that. the our government has said and i've read sunak reports on this, that

we want to be a world leader. we want to be a world leader , and want to be a world leader, and we want to be a world leader in addressing. hang on. let me finish in addressing climate change, that quite change, he has said that quite categorically and yet he is breaking his own position on he's breaking the rules that he set up on addressing the climate change. he's reducing the amount of effort he's prepared to put into it. so and he's like saying new oil and gas. now, if we if we as a country , if we said we we as a country, if we said we are going to stop new oil and gas and then we go to the cop 28, that sends a massive message to all those other countries. we need to take that action so it could be a world leader is moral leadership rather than the amount of co2 that we as a country put out. >> it's about what other countries might do following our lead. i do want to i used to work so me just work for shell, so let me just say if look what we say now, if you look at what we are licensing , let's are currently licensing, let's take the biggest field. >> . we are paying for >> rosebank. we are paying for the of that and we the development of that and we are giving that that road back.

we're giving rosebank 5% tax on it. most of that money, three and a half, something like 3.4 billion. we are paying for the development that field. if we development of that field. if we weren't license weren't doing that, that license wouldn't been granted. they wouldn't have been granted. they wouldn't have been granted. they wouldn't taken that license i >> -- >> cani >> can i can i m >> can i can i just ask one interesting question? because i've few i've interviewed quite a few spokespeople oil spokespeople from just stop oil and extinction rebellion and other groups and i wonder, what's your position on nuclear power? you in favour it power? are you in favour of it or are you against it? >> some people have some views, some people have others. but the point about i'll just ask for your position. my position is that going to take long that it's going to take a long time develop. and what we that it's going to take a long time the avelop. and what we that it's going to take a long time the period and what we that it's going to take a long time the period that what we that it's going to take a long time the period that we at we that it's going to take a long time the period that we have , have, the period that we have, that this rapidly that we have this rapidly closing window in which we have to massive the reason and to make massive the reason and we haven't the reason. >> can i just finish the question and then you can have the time to you can the the time to you can have the time point because time to make the point because there many people who there are many people who campaign group campaign with your group who don't against don't just campaign against new oil . they also campaign oil and gas. they also campaign against sizewell c, they campaign hinkley point . campaign against hinkley point. they campaign against clean

forms of power that they don't like. look of politically. like. the look of politically. and if it is true that we're going to have this societal collapse, disaster , collapse, this big disaster, pension crashing down and pension funds crashing down and storms and all the rest of it, why would you equivocal on a why would you be equivocal on a form of powerful clean energy like nuclear power ? why wouldn't like nuclear power? why wouldn't you be campaigning for that? well, that's because that's not just stop oils demand. >> we have a very simple demand, which makes sense , which is which makes sense, which is easily implementable oil, which will not damage our economy. it will not damage our economy. it will result in the transfer of investment to things which, look, the long term, the long term position of the government, the net zero policy is to import vast amounts of gas. the net zero policy is to import vast amounts of gas . well, this vast amounts of gas. well, this is what this is for an oil company to come up with, because is it not the case that if we stop new just if we stop oil and gas here, exploration, okay, we can signal on the can virtue signal on the international stage and feel good and hope international stage and feel goocother and hope international stage and feel goocother countries and hope international stage and feel goocother countries will d hope international stage and feel gooc other countries will follow that other countries will follow our reality just be >> but won't the reality just be

that import more gas, which that we import more gas, which is dirtier? >> most our gas countries, >> most of our gas countries, most our is imported most of our gas is imported already at and our total oil and gas reserves are declining anyway. we're just topping them up now . the sooner we stop, the up now. the sooner we stop, the sooner we can move to a renewable infrastructure future. >> what about fertilisers , >> what about fertilisers, herbicides, all of these things that we use oil for. we use oil to create all sorts of things, not just to heat our homes and the like. and to fuel our fuel, our engines is now the position on on what i would call an absolute zero position for oil and gas is that there will be a small residual sector which is difficult, which is difficult to decarbonise. >> and that's what we should be thinking about technologies to manage to manage the offset, to manage to manage the offset, to manage the capturing of those resources . that's what we have resources. that's what we have to do. can i just point out, though? >> yes, of course we do have shortened time, but go on. okay.

>> but gb news owned owned by >> but gb news is owned owned by a man called marshall. i think, who has almost £2 billion invested in oil and gas. >> can i just say that paul marshall is a very wealthy man with many investments . many with many investments. many billion pounds is a lot of money as well. >> many of us don't have investments oil and gas investments in oil and gas through pensions. >> let's just let's just round, round, round this because round, round this up. because of course, wealthy people course, lots of wealthy people have lots of different investments. i've seen. i've seen stop oil twitter seen the just stop oil twitter account this weekend tweeting about palestine, tweeting about gaza. about palestine, tweeting about gaza . that doesn't sound to me gaza. that doesn't sound to me like campaign that is solely like a campaign that is solely focussed on the climate. why are so many of your fellow spokespeople so obsessed with a conflict in the middle east? rather than simply just stopping oil ? oil? >> well, our heart goes out to the people in israel and palestine. our heart goes out to them. and what we what we would like to see there, of course, is a ceasefire, which our government has not supported . government has not supported. >> that doesn't sound like a political statement, but political statement, though, but environmental. political statement, though, but environm letal. go on to make

>> well, let me go on to make the point. the point is that what we are going to see, if we release more and more fossil fuel into emissions, into the atmosphere, our temperature goes up atmosphere, our temperature goes up . we have more storms. we have up. we have more storms. we have much hotter weather. we have withering heat. and in large parts of the world, we were seeing the agricultural lands die and the consequence of that is that you have conflict and when you have conflict, you have war. that's what we're going to see. so the sort of thing we're seeing now in in middle east, we will see everywhere. that's why it's so important. i think you tell the truth. >> i think it's a mistake to assume that anyone who is concerned about the environment and oil and gas and all and stopping oil and gas and all of that has to sign up to another list of political statements or political have that carry the same political views. i think that may be a mistake when you're looking to push one political agenda. but thank very indeed, dr. thank you very much indeed, dr. graham. a just stop graham. bus is a just stop oil spokesman thank you very much indeed time . thank you. indeed for your time. thank you. >> lots more coming up for >> well, lots more coming up for you this afternoon, not least

we're get a little we're going to get a little moment. our thoughts of our homeland security editor on the latest hamas latest of that israel and hamas war. is afternoon, war. this is good afternoon, britain on

sunday mornings from 930 on gb news is . news is. welcome back to good afternoon, britain. >> now there are real fears that pro—palestinian protests may turn increasingly violent in the days ahead .

days ahead. >> yes, it comes after a weekend of direct action and follows other protests . s which other protests. s which specifically targeted the offices of mps who voted against calls for a ceasefire at the same time, negotiations to release some of the 240 hostages being held by the terror group hamas in gaza are said to be entering a critical phase. >> it's thought that up to 50 hostages could be released in return for perhaps a five day ceasefire . ceasefire. >> yes. so for the latest security editor mark white joins us now . mark, let's start with us now. mark, let's start with what's happening here in this country. the reaction to the ongoing conflict we've seen mps being targeted and those who voted against calls for a ceasefire in gaza . how serious ceasefire in gaza. how serious is this problem ? is this problem? >> well, i think there is some real concern here. we heard from rachel reeves, the shadow chancellor, saying that actually people have crossed the line now that they've gone from simply protesting to intimidation and

threats. and we know that there have been a number of mps who are reporting that they have had death threats and others have had their addresses that have been posted online as well. and then in over recent days , we had then in over recent days, we had jo stevens , the shadow welsh jo stevens, the shadow welsh secretary, having her offices spray painted with the word murderer posters up there as well that indicated that as far as the protesters were concerned, that she had blood on her hands. and rushanara ali as well, her bethnal green offices were surrounded by protesters in recent days. so i think some real concern . you don't have to real concern. you don't have to cast your mind too far back to know that mps have in the past been subjected to intimidation, death threats and of course , death threats and of course, let's not forget david amess and jo cox, two mps that were murdered as well. so the threat

is very real and we know that this conflict has brought out a lot of tension with that tension only rising as more and more images come out of gaza showing the harm to the civilian population in that particular enclave, certainly, and markets , right. >> you mention images coming out of gaza because in the last 24 hours, we've seen images from the al—shifa hospital, which tend to back up the israeli claims that perhaps hamas have been operating out of that hospital, using it as some sort of base. we've seen video of hostages, some who one who appeared well, being brought in, dragged into that hospital by these terrorists . these terrorists. >> it's yeah, we've got some of those images we can show for our viewers on television now that shows one of the hostages being manhandled into the hospital. clearly. right in front of medics. other staff in the

hospital itself . another on a hospital itself. another on a stretcher there that's injured. now, the according to the israelis, they say that these hostages were a nepali national and a thai national who were then taken on into al—shifa hosphal then taken on into al—shifa hospital. and what the israeli defence forces say is this real highlights how medical staff there who have said consistently they are unaware the of hamas terrorists working in and around that hospital complex, according to the idf, there are some untruths in what are being uttered by those medics and those staff that work in the hospital. combine that with the other information that the idf have released just yesterday with a 55 metre long tunnel that has been exposed in the grounds of al—shifa hospital, has been exposed in the grounds of al—shifa hospital , that of al—shifa hospital, that they've gone down into with

their probes and their technology that's taken them right down into that tunnel and along the tunnel itself to what they found was a blast door with a hole through it for firing. they have not gone beyond that blast door because they're concerned about the potential for that being booby trapped. but they will enter that at some point at and the al—shifa hospitals have vast complex. it is gaza's largest hospital complex . acas. so it's going to complex. acas. so it's going to take them an awful long time to properly search that hospital in all of its grounds. and that's why, of course, the israeli military wanted the hospital evacuated ahead of those medical staff and the patients . that, of staff and the patients. that, of course, has brought widespread condemnation for the way in which they say the military has targeted this hospital. but the idf say, look, you know, it's being used as a command and

control facility by hamas. they have no choice but to go in there and deal with that . the there and deal with that. the alternative would be to leave this in place. >> thank you very much indeed, mark white. our homeland security editor, bringing us the very latest on the ongoing conflict in israel and gaza. but coming up . oh, sorry, have coming up. oh, sorry, have something to say. >> what struck me the most about this is i've seen a map where the al—shifa hospital actually is to get from israel is in order to get from israel to that hospital. you go past so many would many other hospitals. why would these hostages be brought to that hospital that particular hospital, deep into the gaza hospital, so deep into the gaza strip, walking past many other hospitals that they could have stopped at? seems to suggest stopped at? it seems to suggest that is a hamas headquarters. >> and there is talk of >> yes. and there is talk of some kind of hostage deal being agreed imminently fingers agreed imminently. so fingers crossed coming up in crossed for that coming up in just one moment, you'll be heanng just one moment, you'll be hearing the thoughts our hearing the thoughts of our panel of the day panel on the stories of the day and britain's talking and what britain's talking about. afternoon, about. this is. good afternoon, britain . gb news. britain on. gb news. >> it's 133.

britain on. gb news. >> it's133. i'm sophia wenzler in the newsroom. the prime minister has promised to cut taxes carefully and sustainably . taxes carefully and sustainably. rishi sunak says the government can move into the next phase of fixing the economy now that inflation has been halved . inflation has been halved. speaking ahead of wednesday's autumn statement, he identified five long term goals, which include reducing debt building sustained energy, supporting business and delivering world class education in the government's former chief scientific adviser has told the covid inquiry he's not convinced there was effective operational response to limit the spread of the virus when the pandemic started. sir patrick vallance also described the scale of test and trace facilities through pubuc and trace facilities through public england as inadequate and said the urgency of action across whitehall wasn't as consistent or as reliable as it should have been . well i think should have been. well i think i'm right in saying that the prime minister at the time gave up science when he was 15 at and

i think he'd be the first to admit it wasn't his forte and that he did struggle with some of the concepts and we did need to repeat them often. >> certainly when i left a meeting, i would be i would usually be persuaded that we had got him to understand what it was we were trying to say. but as one of the extracts showed that you've put up there that six hours later he might not have remembered what was what was in that presentation. so that shows there are growing hopes that dozens of hostages held by hamas in gaza may soon be released. >> us, israel and qatari mediators say a deal is edging closer more than 200 people were taken by hamas on the 7th of october. so far, only four have been released . it comes after been released. it comes after the israeli military claimed hamas hid and murdered hostages at gaza's main hospital . mina at gaza's main hospital. mina while more than two dozen premature babies evacuated from al—shifa hospital have arrived in egypt, gaza health ministry

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isabel, monday to thursdays from six till 930 . six till 930. >> good afternoon , britain. i'm >> good afternoon, britain. i'm emily carver. this is tom hardwood. we're with you till 3:00. now, we've got lots of emails coming in, lots of reaction to our interview with the just stop oil spokesperson who wasn't out in whitehall today. who wasn't out in whitehall today . he came to speak to us

today. he came to speak to us instead . and us. instead. and us. >> good thing he did, because all of his friends seem to be arrested this morning or this afternoon, say. arrested this morning or this afte well, |, say. arrested this morning or this aftewell, this say. arrested this morning or this aftewell, this is say. arrested this morning or this aftewell, this is the say. arrested this morning or this aftewell, this is the thing i did >> well, this is the thing i did ask about all these young ask him about all of these young people getting arrested people who are getting arrested and have a and may find they have a criminal for rest criminal record for the rest of their a good duty their lives. is that a good duty of care from an organisation or perhaps that doesn't matter to them? says he he's them? yes. roy says he he's beginning what planet beginning to wonder what planet they on. only now he's they live on. only now he's wondering can somebody from just stop oil explain how they travelled to london, how they cook, what they eat and drink, and where their clothes are manufactured. well, is the manufactured. well, this is the thing. many besides thing. so many things besides heating our homes and fuelling our cars require fossil fuels. and if we don't make it here, we're going to have to import it from elsewhere. >> yes. and carol lynn has written in to say, i'm sorry, but the male guest lost me on his argument about gaza and israel . it his argument about gaza and israel. it has nothing to do with new oil and gas licenses. and have to say, caroline , i and i have to say, caroline, i completely with you. there completely agree with you. there if you have a campaign that's called just just stop oil, just

do that. why are you talking about the middle east? why are you about gaza ? why are you talking about gaza? why are you talking about gaza? why are you hospitals? you talking about gaza? why are youwell, hospitals? you talking about gaza? why are youwell, we hospitals? you talking about gaza? why are youwell, we saw hospitals? you talking about gaza? why are youwell, we saw greta itals? you talking about gaza? why are youwell, we saw greta thunberg >> well, we saw greta thunberg had giving a speech had her she was giving a speech at a about , you know, at a rally about, you know, environmental issues of course, extinction rebellion and whatnot in amsterdam. she had the mic pred in amsterdam. she had the mic ripped of hand because ripped out of her hand because she started talking about palestine. >> you know, the funniest thing about greta thunberg, she has been campaigning against a wind farm in norway because it's on indigenous norwegian native peoples land. so these these peoples land. so these these people who live a traditional lifestyle . and she thinks that lifestyle. and she thinks that indigenous rights trump climate rights in this instance . rights in this instance. >> so she was where you get in trouble. >> it's not just campaigning against a new wind farm, a potential wind farm. she wants an existing wind farm down. an existing wind farm torn down. >> this is the problem with social activism. >> this is the problem with soc there's activism. >> this is the problem with soc there's activ something >> there's always something one cause important than cause that's more important than your then your initial cause, and then you're anyway, you're in a mess. anyway, joining the studio is joining us now in the studio is former editor of the sunday express. and express. martin townsend, and former bill rammell. express. martin townsend, and formeryou bill rammell. express. martin townsend, and formeryou very bill rammell. express. martin townsend, and formeryou very muchl rammell. express. martin townsend, and formeryou very much indeed ell. express. martin townsend, and formeryou very much indeed for thank you very much indeed for joining us. should we get your reaction to just stop oil you've

been watching the footage in the green room. hopefully what do you of it? you make of it? >> i think just stop will >> i think just stop oil will alienate people that alienate the very people that they need to be supporting them. but earlier, about but i was saying earlier, about nine ago, i was going to nine months ago, i was going to hounslow from the m25, hounslow from essex on the m25, and i was stuck there for seven hours, got out of the car and people were absolutely seething . people were absolutely seething. and i believe in tackling environmental problems. but you have to take people with you and you don't do it with the kind of tactics we're seeing. yeah, agree. >> i mean, i think one of the worst things they was gluing worst things they did was gluing themselves to a tube train a couple of years ago, which i just thought, hang on a minute, trains. i thought you were in favour and suddenly trains. i thought you were in favoir and suddenly trains. i thought you were in favoi was and suddenly trains. i thought you were in favoi was so and suddenly trains. i thought you were in favoi was so pleasedsuddenly trains. i thought you were in favoi was so pleased toidenly trains. i thought you were in favoi was so pleased to see ly trains. i thought you were in favoi was so pleased to see the and i was so pleased to see the commuters pull them off commuters actually pull them off the of those. the top of the roofs of those. i mean, problem with stop mean, my problem with just stop oil they want ? i oil is what do they want? i mean, we're there, aren't we? we're zero. we're trying to get to net zero. there are all different there are all these different carbon. this is all carbon. you know, this is all anyone talks about. what is it actually that just stop oil wants ? wants? >> it's so peculiar that it's happening the united kingdom, happening in the united kingdom, which by any objective

assessment, more than assessment, has done more than any g7 country to reduce co2 emissions. we've halved them since 1990, which is a far cry from most european countries that have reduced them by some degree and a very far cry from countries like can india, which actually have increased their co2 emissions. >> yeah , well, i mean, i just >> yeah, well, i mean, i just i've always just felt that, you know, the future for energy is going to be a mixture of things anyway. i mean, just don't anyway. i mean, ijust don't think you can like put things, you know, just say, right, we'll get that. we'll get rid you know, just say, right, we'll gethis. that. we'll get rid you know, just say, right, we'll gethis. it's1at. we'll get rid you know, just say, right, we'll gethis. it's going e'll get rid you know, just say, right, we'll gethis. it's going to. get rid you know, just say, right, we'll gethis. it's going to haverid you know, just say, right, we'll gethis. it's going to have to of this. it's going to have to be a blend, a mixture. i mean, i think point people will think at some point people will decide it's not decide that, you know, it's not electric going electric energy. it's going to be you know, so be hydrogen. it's you know, so there's be a lot of there's going to be a lot of those kind of debates going on. and i find their particular and i just find their particular what narrow protest. >> it utterly that's what annoys a us. to interrupt. a lot of us. sorry to interrupt. that's annoys a lot of that's what annoys a lot of our viewers and listeners and i must admit myself, too, is that if you get board with you want to get on board with just oil or if you want to just stop oil or if you want to get board with environmental get on board with environmental concerns, to also sign get on board with environmental cortorns, to also sign get on board with environmental corto being to also sign

get on board with environmental corto being anti—capitalist.;ign up to being anti—capitalist. you have on middle have to have a view on middle eastern you have to eastern conflict. you have to have on god knows what else. >> well, i mean, we were saying we saying earlier that we were saying earlier that an awful of the activists awful lot of the activists involved in just stop oil are young or upper middle class. and young or upper middle class. and you get the sense they're getting their rebellion out of the system. and i think half of them be voting by the them will be voting tory by the time they're 40. you know, it's not way go forward to not the way to go forward to tackle problems . tackle environmental problems. you need change the way we you need to change the way we live, the way we work , the way live, the way we work, the way we lead our lives, and to do that, you've got to take people with and you don't do that with you and you don't do that by massively disrupting everyone's by massively disrupting eve no 1e's by massively disrupting eve no ,3's by massively disrupting eve no , interesting. if look >> no, interesting. if you look at the things at i mean, one of the things there, mean, the kind of going there, i mean, the kind of going in and vandalising paintings of the mean, as the national gallery, i mean, as a to the national a child, i went to the national gallery because it's free, right? you go and you can gallery because it's free, righthe ou go and you can gallery because it's free, righthe most go and you can gallery because it's free, righthe most beautiful d you can gallery because it's free, righthe most beautiful works can gallery because it's free, righthe most beautiful works of] see the most beautiful works of art over the world. and art from all over the world. and then got these going then you've got these kids going in knows what middle in from god knows what middle class know, all class family, you know, with all their of trust funds and their kind of trust funds and everything else, paint everything else, throwing paint or whatever all over or powder or whatever all over these the national these paintings, the national

gallery we learn at the gallery now we learn at the weekend , are going to be weekend, are not going to be able all of those able to protect all of those galleries. this a galleries. i know this is a small people go, well, small thing. people go, well, climate bit more climate change is a bit more important than an impressionist painting. me. painting. to me. it isn't to me. this don't take this is where they don't take people with them. this is just nonsense. they're the idea, >> martin they're fed the idea, though, the though, that probably the national gallery and its paintings is elitist and, well, it is a product of colonialism and presents, you know , the and presents, you know, the horrors of western civilised nation. so therefore, it's their duty to take it all down, or at least they don't care. should we move on? >> shall we segue very neatly from one form of protest to another? because have seen another? because we have seen increasing sort of threatening behaviour, particularly towards labour mps who don't toe the sort of jeremy corbyn line when it comes to gaza . and bill, i it comes to gaza. and bill, i wonder what's your thoughts, what are your thoughts on this? where where is the line? where do you draw the line between legitimate democratic participation, protest and something that becomes rather more threatening ? more threatening? >> well, i think people do have the right to protest, but they

have the right to do it peacefully and the peacefully. and some of the scenes we've seen over the weekend you know , weekend with people, you know, throwing things, attacking the offices of labour mps are unacceptable. look what's happening in gaza in the middle east is abominable . it's east is abominable. it's a humanitarian crisis . but it was humanitarian crisis. but it was started with with 1400 israelis on october, the seventh, seventh be killed. put that into context. if that was the uk, that would be 12,000 british citizens . so of course, israel citizens. so of course, israel has a right to self—defence . has a right to self—defence. it's got to adhere to international humanitarian law. but but, you know, it's there has to be a way forward and i'm actually encouraged in the last encouraged the last 24 hours with some of the noises actually encouraged in the last 24 hours with some of the noises coming out of washington, coming coming out of washington, coming out of israel there might out of israel there might out of israel that there might be five day pause in the out of israel that there might be five day pause in the be a five day pause in the fighting to allow humanitarian be a five day pause in the fighting to allow humanitarian aid and other supplies to go aid and other supplies to go into gaza . but a ceasefire is into gaza . but a ceasefire is into gaza. but a ceasefire is not the solution because hamas into gaza. but a ceasefire is not the solution because hamas

will remain in place. >> here, of course, is that had israel not gone into gaza, they will wouldn't have been that negotiation. there wouldn't have been that you're able to say stop hostilities and we'll give back hostages and there'd be no leverage from the israelis, i suppose. >> martin yeah. yeah, that's true. i mean, ijust like true. i mean, ijust would like to make point about labour, to make a point about labour, which would say, which is, i would say, where were were labour party were where were the labour party when their own jewish mps were being ago being attacked a few years ago under by under the corbyn government by momentum where, when momentum where, where, when bncks momentum where, where, when bricks were thrown through bricks were being thrown through the of, of jewish mps. the windows of, of jewish mps. and know the problems that and we know the problems that labour have had with antisemitism years. antisemitism over the years. where the labour reaction? >> were wholly different >> there were a wholly different party completely its party that completely lost its way corbyn and way under jeremy corbyn and jeremy rightly is no jeremy corbyn rightly is no longer a labour mp. well people have very long memories and i have very long memories and i have a very long memory and i would this is that jewish would say this is that jewish people country have would say this is that jewish peoplyhave country have would say this is that jewish peoplyhave had ountry have would say this is that jewish peoplyhave had to 1try have would say this is that jewish peoplyhave had to have ave would say this is that jewish peoplyhave had to have their have, have had to have their schools protected, their synagogues protected years synagogues protected for years and , decades, right? synagogues protected for years ancthis , decades, right? synagogues protected for years ancthis is, decades, right? synagogues protected for years ancthis is nothing s, right? synagogues protected for years ancthis is nothing newiht? synagogues protected for years ancthis is nothing new in? synagogues protected for years ancthis is nothing new in and >> this is nothing new in and the labour party were not helpful all those years ago . far helpful all those years ago. far from it. it might be a previous

government, but it was corbyn's government, but it was corbyn's government and nothing was done to labour jewish mps. to protect labourjewish mps. >> to jewish >> listen to what the jewish community are saying about how much the steps that much they welcome the steps that keir starmer has taken tackle keir starmer has taken to tackle anti—semitism to rid the party of anti semitism. >> let's be honest , when it >> let's be honest, when it comes to the threatening of politicians , which we have seen politicians, which we have seen over this issue , mps are fearful over this issue, mps are fearful of some kind of islamist terror attack, some kind of islamist jew hating attack potentially on them, their family. scary time to be an mp when something like this heats up. there is a very real threat and we hear it from the security services, we hear it from the government, we hear it from the government, we hear it from the government, we hear it from home office. it's cetera. et cetera. there is a very real threat, and i think that what mps scared of. that is what mps are scared of. >> last few years >> and in the last few years we've had two mps murdered. >> exactly. >> exactly. >> that's very different >> and that's very different from a from the time when i was a member of parliament. you know, the changed for the world has changed for the worse, don't disagree with that. >> but i think at a when >> but i think at a time when you've got people in the streets

going on protests openly supporting , you supporting hamas, openly, you know, these hateful know, saying these hateful things about the jewish community, i mean, what do you expect? i mean, this this is not being this is not being dealt with government. it's with by the government. it's just i think it's really >> bill, i think it's really clear that the leadership of the labour party has changed on this issue. keir starmer issue. clearly keir starmer is a very different jeremy very different man to jeremy corbyn, but we did see one third of his mps was go against what sir keir starmer was saying with regard to how gaza should be deau regard to how gaza should be dealt with. we saw one third, we saw ten shadow frontbenchers booths be forced out, forced to resign or be fired because of their views. has the whole of their views. has the whole of the labour party changed or is it just that bit at the top? >> well, they weren't speaking out in favour of antisemitism , out in favour of antisemitism, they weren't speaking out in favour hamas. they've got favour of hamas. they've got genuine concerns about the humanitarian in gaza and humanitarian crisis in gaza and they have the right to take that view. i happen to believe that the alternative is more effective, that keir is pursued along the right path. but what was noteworthy about that was

that there was still respect on both sides of the argument. you know, very deeply held views, but respect for the other side. compare and contrast with the divisions in the tory party. these days when they're virtually at each other's throats and no level of respect whatsoever . whatsoever. >> where do you think keir starmer expecting some of starmer was expecting some of his front frontbench to his shadow front frontbench to part from his point of view on this one? >> probably not. i wouldn't have thought no. i mean, you know , thought no. i mean, you know, keir starmer has been the biggest control freak around the labour you know, i mean, labour party. you know, i mean, you know, he's deselected people left, right and centre. if they're left wing. they're too left wing. et cetera. cetera. he to. cetera. et cetera. he wants to. he wants to be in control. so you know, he wouldn't have expected. he thought he was across it. a bit of a shock. yeah. >> no, i don't think so. i mean, you from the beginning of you know, from the beginning of the was very clear the conflict, it was very clear that were strong that there were very strong views. think saw that views. and i think keir saw that coming. know, he stuck coming. but you know, he stuck to his guns . to his guns. >> he's he's he stuck to his gun. he's u—turned on the position of cutting off fuel and

water. that was a potentially a misstep for him. >> okay. at the very beginning of the conflict, he gave an interview on on lbc, i think it was . and he didn't quite was. and he didn't quite represent his view effectively . represent his view effectively. he immediately put that right and he's been here a few days. okay within a couple of days. but he's consistently made clear our support as a party for the state of israel. their right to self—defence and complete opposite . ian. opposite. ian. >> to be fair, he is in a very difficult position. having that many mps and top mps in his shadow cabinet disagreeing or disagreeing with his position so vehemently that they would resign or be open to a sack should we? >> i've got one more story that i want to just go on then. why not? something that we have teased a couple of times and it might not seem particularly relevant, but i think it is interesting we've interesting thing. we've got a video wielding video of a man wielding a chainsaw that i'd like to show everyone watching on television. we've got that coming up right

now. what on earth this is? this is a man wielding a chainsaw surrounded by supporters , a real surrounded by supporters, a real chainsaw . and this man has just chainsaw. and this man has just become president of argentina. his name is javier melaye, and he ran on a platform to abolish his own currency and replace it with the us dollar . his own currency and replace it with the us dollar. he his own currency and replace it with the us dollar . he wants to with the us dollar. he wants to aboush with the us dollar. he wants to abolish most government departments. he is a radical outsider outsider. he calls himself a libertarian. there are some media who call him far right . there's been a quiet right. there's been a quiet revolution in argentina, a country that has a staggering we think we've got high inflation in the uk, their inflation is over 100, 140. >> last time i checked is this the next bout of the populist wave taking over the world? >> martin i mean, can we trust a man with a chainsaw? he's not even wearing protective goggles. i would say at this point, he seems to have ignored every law of health and safety. those waving over someone's head. waving it over someone's head.

yeah he's a maverick. mean, yeah he's a maverick. i mean, i don't i don't know enough about argentinian politics to answer, if i'm honest, but, you know, honestly, doesn't seem to honestly, that doesn't seem to me to the face of responsible me to be the face of responsible government. i could be wrong. >> but he a maverick. i was >> but he is a maverick. i was a foreign affairs conference in morocco weekend and morocco at the weekend and a fellow panellist was an argentinian and she was telling me neck and neck in the me it was neck and neck in the polls. actually he's won by 11. so this is virtually a two horse race, a landslide . and he yeah, race, a landslide. and he yeah, he's a trump style populist . he's a trump style populist. and, you know, these people have easy solutions to very difficult problems. and it will unravel. and i think it would be a disastrous end. and the point you make as well, inflation version. so something you're paying version. so something you're paying £30 for today will cost you £75 this time next year. how on earth do you cope with that kind of situation? well, it isn't that precisely why he's woi'i. >> won. >> there's been an old sort of he was running against the economy. minister of the previous government. this previous government. now, this was person presiding was the person who was presiding

over 140% inflation. is it should we be surprised that this has happened ? has happened? >> yeah. although, i mean, argentina has a history of instability, division , an instability, division, an economic this is him dressed up as a superhero earlier this yeah >> the name of the superhero is captain ancap. now that stands for anarcho capitalist . captain ancap. now that stands for anarcho capitalist. he's i just felt like it is quite extraordinary that that someone has won on a ticket of, well, dismay mantling various government departments . government departments. >> you do not see that in this country and people compare him to donald trump. trump to donald trump. donald trump never suggested such a thing. and you compare him to boris and if you compare him to boris johnson, johnson johnson, boris johnson might like dress every like a bit of fancy dress every now and again, but he certainly wouldn't for having wouldn't be calling for having said that. >> i saw his photograph >> when i saw his photograph this morning, he reminded me of the dawson . i'm the late, great les dawson. i'm sure he's very different. yeah >> yeah. well, goodness me, we are running to the of this are running to the end of this segment, but will back segment, but we will be back with much more in the next with much, much more in the next houh with much, much more in the next hour. so thank you very much, both martin townsend and bill

both to martin townsend and bill rammell for talking through those issues. yes. >> still to come on today's show, rishi sunak reportedly faces opposition over faces cabinet opposition over his plans to salvage the rwanda plan. can the government solve their flagship policy? this is good afternoon, britain on .

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away. good afternoon, britain. it is 2:00 on monday, the 20th of november. take to the streets. >> just stop oil vow to protest every day from today until they win . and right now, many have win. and right now, many have been arrested in central london and will be there live again with the latest . with the latest. >> and rwanda back on the rocks. the prime minister faces a cabinet revolt over plans to ignore the echr and salvage his migrants policy. the battle for business will be bringing you the very latest from the cbi conference as both the tories and labour compete to be crowned the party of . business and with the party of. business and with the party of. business and with the chancellor set to deliver his autumn statement on wednesday, prime minister rishi sunak has said he believes in cutting taxes. but wait for it carefully and sustainably. tom yeah, what does that mean? >> it's so interesting. the

government has had different positions behind the scenes. is it going to be inheritance tax? is going to be income tax, is it going to be income tax, national insurance% personally, i it's absolute farce i think it's an absolute farce that insurance and that national insurance and income tax are called different things. same tax . it things. it's the same tax. it goes the same pot. they goes into the same pot. they should them. should just merge them. >> should merged ? >> yeah. should they be merged? that more sensible. that would be more sensible. >> semantics . yeah. just >> semantics. yeah. just semantics people like semantics makes people feel like they pay tax. but it's a they pay less tax. but it's a lie. the government in effect lies you it says your lies to you because it says your income rate is whatever income tax rate is whatever percent but it's actually percent it is. but it's actually that's national that's plus the national insurance rate. so it's the same tax i filled in one of these onune tax i filled in one of these online tests. >> the other day where it gives you the it makes you chancellor and decide what you'd and you decide what you'd prioritise in terms of tax cuts. >> you enjoyed that. >> but you enjoyed that. >> but you enjoyed that. >> yes i didn't put >> yes. yes i didn't put inheritance though. no, inheritance tax, though. no, i put national put things like national insurance. yeah. cutting that or at least abolishing national insurance. >> it makes people think that there is a pot, for example, a pension pot that they've been paying pension pot that they've been paying into when it's a lie, it's a ponzi scheme. and the politicians have been lying to the this country for

the people of this country for decades, pretending the money that have paying in that people have been paying in has them when it has been saved for them when it had been spent there had actually been spent there and and need to raise and then and we need to raise new taxes to pay for expenditure i >> -- >> yes. but someone's going to have to pay for your pension too. >> tom yeah , well, that's the >> tom yeah, well, that's the point making. it's , you point i'm making. so it's, you know, something that do know, it's something that we do for past generations and ongoing , well, perhaps, what , well, perhaps, perhaps what should happened that should have happened is that it should have happened is that it should gone a pot and should have gone into a pot and should have gone into a pot and should accumulated interest should have accumulated interest and paid and then could have been paid for think that they've for as people think that they've paid it themselves. for as people think that they've paino it themselves. for as people think that they've paino we themselves. for as people think that they've paino we trust selves. for as people think that they've paino we trust oures. for as people think that they've paino we trust our government to >> do we trust our government to invest our money wisely? well, that's a very good point. inheritance will be making inheritance will they be making any i very much doubt it. any gains? i very much doubt it. it could be eaten by inflation anyway, things anyway, the way things are going, although that is down anyway, discussing all anyway, we'll be discussing all of that, plus much more after your headlines with sophia . good afternoon. >> it's 2:02. i'm sophia wenzler in the newsroom. the prime minister has promised to cut taxes carefully and sustainably .

taxes carefully and sustainably. rishi sunak says the government can move into the next phase of fixing the economy now that inflation has been halved. speaking ahead of wednesdays autumn statement, he identified five long term goals, which include reducing debt, building sustainable energy, supporting business and delivering world class education. >> so now that inflation is halved and our growth is stronger, meaning revenues are higher, we can begin to the next phase and turn our attention to cutting tax . we will do this in cutting tax. we will do this in a serious, responsible way based on fiscal rules to deliver sound money and alongside the independent forecasts of the office of budget responsibility and we can't do everything all at once. it will take discipline on and we need to prioritise things. but over time we can and we will cut taxes . the covid

we will cut taxes. the covid inquiry has been told the government's response to the pandemic was inadequate , but pandemic was inadequate, but former chief scientific adviser sir patrick vallance says he's not convinced there was an effective operational response to limit the spread of the virus when the pandemic started. >> described the scale of >> he described the scale of test and trace facilities through public england as inadequate and said the urgency of action across whitehall wasn't as consistent or as reliable as it should have been . reliable as it should have been. sir patrick was also asked whether boris johnson, the prime minister at the time, was bamboozled the science as well. >> i think i'm right in saying that the prime minister at the time gave up science when he was 15 at and i think he'd be the first to admit it wasn't his forte and that he did struggle with some of the concepts and we did need to repeat them often. >> certainly when i left a meeting, i would be i would usually be persuaded that we had got him to understand what it was we were trying to say. >> but as one of the extracts showed that you put up there

that six hours later he might not have remembered what was what was in that presentation . what was in that presentation. >> there are growing hopes that dozens of hostages held by hamas in gaza may soon be released . in gaza may soon be released. the us, israel and qatari mediators say a deal is edging closer. more than 200 people were taken by hamas on the 7th of october. so far, only four have been released . it comes have been released. it comes after the israeli military claimed hamas hid and murdered hostages at gaza's main hospital . a video has been released of what the idf says are hostages being kept in al—shifa hospital . being kept in al—shifa hospital. meanwhile, more than two dozen premature babies have evacuated from al shifa have arrived in egypt. gaza's health ministry says a joint operation by the un and palestinian red crescent has made the move possible . while made the move possible. while the hamas run ministry also says an airstrike on different hospitals has killed at least 12 people in the north of the territory . a man has been territory. a man has been arrested on suspicion of murder

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representing his country and winning bronze at the european black ball championships in malta . this is gb news across malta. this is gb news across the uk on tv, in your car, on your digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news now it's back to tom and . news now it's back to tom and. emily welcome back. >> now just stop oil are taking to the streets today with environmental group vowing to march every day from this point until quote it wins the campaign which will last seven days until the 26th of november, demands that the government stop all new licences for oil and gas contracts. >> well , let's get the very >> well, let's get the very latest now with gb news reporter ray addison, our man in westminster . westminster. >> and ray, there were quite a few arrests going on when we caught you earlier. few arrests going on when we caught happenedyu earlier. few arrests going on when we caught happened since .ier. few arrests going on when we caught happened since .ar. what's happened since. >> yeah, well, the met police have revealed that they actually arrested 15 in. just stop oil

protesters. of course, they're stated aim was to make it all the way from trafalgar square to here. the houses of parliament and to continue their protest on the road. now speaking to me before they started that protest, they admitted they didn't think they would get very far because , of course, the far because, of course, the police have these more robust just powers now to make those arrests. they use section seven of the public order act, and that's what they used today. they stated very clearly to those 50 or so protesters that when they began that protest , when they began that protest, they would be arrested in no short measure. and that's exactly what happened. now, what you get with just stop oil, of course, you get the you get the protesters and you get the supporters. so although there was 50 so there that i saw was 50 or so there that i saw were ultimately only 15, ended up putting themselves in a position in the road where they ended up arrested by the ended up being arrested by the met the rest were met police the rest were supporters. it can be a bit strange sometimes as well because i've to protests because as i've been to protests where actually they have where they actually they have

their supporters walking their own supporters walking alongside, clapping saying alongside, clapping and saying thank you to their colleagues, so to speak. just op oil activists. and it can be a little bit strange. meanwhile, you have a lot of drivers going past some slowing down, stopping and shouting, you know, get a job or get out of the road and so on. and so forth. of course, it started, as i said, at trafalgar square. they made it made it about 100m. the last few stragglers made it about 100m down whitehall . and then of down whitehall. and then of course when they were arrested we saw that huge swathe of police officers move in about 50 or 60 officers and the sergeant yelling at them, let's get them lifted and shifted. and that's exactly what they did . as exactly what they did. as i said, it was a bit of a strange circus, almost . we had circus, almost. we had a youtuber who was sort of pretending to be a protest singer, but really sort of protesting their protest out and somebody with a shopping trolley, a unite nations flag playing michael jackson's heal the world in the meantime, of

course, there's seven more six more days of action and lots of opportunities for protests . we opportunities for protests. we know that south korea's president is going to be meeting with king charles tomorrow. and of course, we have budget day on wednesday so plenty of wednesday as well. so plenty of opportunities disrupt the opportunities to disrupt the roads and get in the way. >> ray, you you called it a circus. there i mean, you plonked yourself right in the middle of it in whitehall, in middle of it in in whitehall, in the middle of the road between two bus lanes. it got a bit sketchy for you out there, but was it a bit of a damp squib then? so we've had 15 activists arrive , arrested, not too much arrive, arrested, not too much of a turnout. do you imagine it will ramp up into the weekend when more people are free to march to their heart's content ? march to their heart's content? well if i if i put my comms head on for a minute, if i imagine i was just stop oils press team, i would imagine i don't think that's ever going to happen. >> but if it ever were to happen, i would imagine that i would wanted to see larger

would have wanted to see larger numbers know that numbers than that. we know that only recently there was a there was a protest another part of was a protest on another part of london where there was about 114 protesters and 114 arrests. and so to start this huge sort of seven days of mass disruption, billing it, you know, you've never seen disruption like this before. and to only then have the 50 protesters that i counted turn up and only then 15 arrests you know maybe maybe this is part of the plan . maybe maybe part of the plan. maybe maybe they want it to grow and grow and maybe by by sunday afternoon, we're going to see huge numbers. who knows? >> maybe we will. or maybe it will be little bit less will be a little bit less populous . will be a little bit less populous. perhaps. will be a little bit less populous . perhaps. let's see. populous. perhaps. let's see. thank you very much indeed , gb thank you very much indeed, gb news reporter ray addison bringing us very latest from bringing us the very latest from that. oil protest. that. just stop oil protest. >> interesting if this >> it is interesting if this were to happen before the latest version of the order act , version of the public order act, they would have the police would have fewer powers with have had many fewer powers with which to deal with these protesters. and it have protesters. and it could have been case that just 15 been the case that just 15 people, which doesn't people, all which doesn't represent particularly large represent a particularly large slice of british population,

slice of the british population, but just 15 people could have brought westminster to a standstill. i suppose standstill. i mean, i suppose this sort of points to the laws that have been passed being perhaps for the common good. yeah, potentially . yeah, potentially. >> of course, the police have been accused of all sorts, not least two tier policing when it comes to protests. they're clearly showing here that they do have the powers to stop people the roads when people disrupting the roads when they wish to. now, is they wish to. now, this is a fast moving show, so we're moving to on the chancellor, jeremy hunt, who has not ruled out cutting income tax in wednesday's autumn statement. he insists economic growth is his priority. does that mean that we're going to have a cut to income tax? who knows? >> fast moving situation . >> it's a fast moving situation. of course. jeremy hunt also is said finalising the said to be finalising the government's spending plans as he revive a stagnant he seeks to revive a stagnant british economy. well let's cross now to gb news political editor christopher hope and christopher , we heard from the christopher, we heard from the chancellor yesterday. we've heard from the prime minister today. it really does seem like

things are moving on. tax cuts finally, finally , tom and emily. finally, finally, tom and emily. >> that's right. it looks like they are moving towards doing some tax cuts on wednesday. there's no way that the prime minister today in a college in north london, he said very clearly that the government i want to cut tax. i believe in cutting tax. now, that is clearly what in our clearly what we call in our trade pitch rolling for some big announcement in 48 hours time. what will that be? well, the ifs institute for fiscal studies said there's opportunity to save maybe a few low numbers of billions by cutting taxes , but billions by cutting taxes, but it may be indicating income tax cuts, national insurance , tax cuts, national insurance, tax cuts, national insurance, tax cuts for gb news viewers and everyone else. after the march budget. in the new tax year, there could be some measures on full expensing allowing companies to charge to offset their tax bill against expenses. there could be something on vat. we're not sure , but we are we're not sure, but we are seeing a shift in the in the ground in west minster today with the government going on

more front foot led by more on the front foot led by rishi sunak on idea rishi sunak on the idea of cutting taxes, that of cutting taxes, the idea that of course to course is politically to persuade those 20% of voters who are yet to declare or decide what they want to do at the next election to come back towards the tory party and try and eat into that labour lead. so fascinating that things have moved this quickly. >> i suppose the narrative that rishi sunak wants to build up is that because inflation is down, he is now able to cut taxes . but he is now able to cut taxes. but isuppose he is now able to cut taxes. but i suppose that ignores the reality that inflation is still above 4. that's twice the level, more than twice the level that is the target of the bank of england is there an eye is there an argument that if you're to take rishi sunak's original argument that inflation must be lower before cutting taxes , that lower before cutting taxes, that he's going to . soon? he's going to. soon? >> yes, but nothing else is working for him, is it, tom? at the moment he said he would halve inflation this year. he's done that. but the other target he himself may just be

he set himself are may just be hit or may well not be hit. there's five targets governing areas debt, growing areas like cutting debt, growing the , dealing with the the economy, dealing with the nhs waiting list and crucially, stopping maybe there stopping the boats. maybe there might be some anaemic growth, but that's about it. i think but that's about it. so i think he's to find something to he's trying to find something to hang he's got to do hang on to. he's got to do something tory something because lots of tory mps working out mps are finding working out their futures themselves. their futures for themselves. we're here today. james duddridge, of duddridge, a former ally of bofis duddridge, a former ally of boris johnson. he's leaving parliament next election. i think he feels he's done his time but there's of time now, but there's lots of mps here know are worried mps here who i know are worried about their futures, worrying mps here who i know are worried abotthe eir futures, worrying mps here who i know are worried abotthe governmentvorrying mps here who i know are worried abotthe governmentvorryirdo more why the government can't do more in try and help them in power to try and help them win that next election. but he also set out five long term decisions for the government. they're going to take over reducing debt, cutting taxes, as i say, building sustainable energy, backing british business and delivering a world class education. we know bits of that. the a—level reforms over ten years were unveiled. for example , at the party conference in the beginning of last month . but in beginning of last month. but in a sense, we are now seeing the kind of wheels , the wheels,

kind of the wheels, the wheels, the effort behind driving division with labour are happening ahead of what will be the election, probably in about a year's time. >> stay with us, chris, because we want to bring in also to this conversation our economics and business editor liam halligan . business editor liam halligan. liam, listening to there what chris was saying on the politics of it, how much fiscal room is there in the economic side of things to actually make many moves with regard to tax cuts? >> well, what we call fiscal headroom, tom, the amount of scope the chancellor's got to spend money or cut taxes, the amount of spare money if you like, in the kitty, it really depends on who you speak to, because those estimates rely in turn on estimates of where the economy's going to be in a year's time, how much growth there's going to be, how much tax revenue will raise. and if you the likes of the you listen to the likes of the official watchdog, the official fiscal watchdog, the office for budget responsibility , see, there's maybe 5 or £10 billion of fiscal headroom if you go to the independent

national institute of economic and social research, a very august body, they think the obr is far too pessimistic. they're looking at 60 or £70 billion of fiscal headroom, which would be enough for very sizeable tax cuts. but look what we've seen in the last 24, 48, 72 hours over the weekend . lots of over the weekend. lots of speculation in the papers. we've seen what we call in our trade. tom a reverse ferret. we've seen the government, the prime minister and the chancellor go from there's no way we can possibly that would possibly lower taxes. that would be irritating , sensible be deeply irritating, sensible to now is the time to cut to all. now is the time to cut taxes and get growth going. and that's the responsible thing to do. you see what i did there with the language and what kind of we see? here's of tax cuts could we see? here's a quick menu, a little kind of smorgasbord , if you like, of the smorgasbord, if you like, of the possible tax cuts that are in the aether that are knocking aboutin the aether that are knocking about in newspaper columns that people are talking about out of both sides of their mouth, if you like, exten ed full expensing, what does that mean? it sounds a bit complicated.

well full expensing when well full expensing is when a company makes an investment and then the cost of that investment can be offset against their corporation tax. this only really is useful for big companies that can afford to . companies that can afford to. invest lots of money. you've got money. spare another option to cut taxes may be to slash inheritance tax . a much hated inheritance tax. a much hated tax. some people would say maybe thatis tax. some people would say maybe that is a bit too focussed on better off families . only 4% of better off families. only 4% of families pay inheritance tax, but it is much hated . so maybe but it is much hated. so maybe you could cut the rate from 40 to 30% or raise the threshold from 325 odd thousand pounds. you could you could raise that, but that wouldn't go down very well among less well—off voters who won't pay inheritance tax. another idea is to raise frozen tax thresholds. what does that mean? well, chancellor rishi sunak, when he was chancellor before he became prime minister, he froze the thresholds that you start paying the basic rate of income tax, the higher rate of

income tax, the higher rate of income tax, the additional rate of income tax , and because of income tax, and because they've been frozen, but we've had inflation, more and more people have been dragged into those brackets and that's a those tax brackets and that's a stealth tax. and people don't like they could raise like that. so they could raise they unfreeze those frozen they could unfreeze those frozen tax thresholds which are going to frozen until 2028. on to be frozen until 2028. on current policy . and finally, current policy. and finally, something that i've been promoting in my sunday telegraph columns increase the personal tax allowance from £12,570. what does that mean? that's the level at which you start paying income tax. if you earn less than 12.5 grand, you don't pay income tax. if you earn more than 12.5 grand, you do start paying in tax. 12.5 grand is about a third of the average wage. so for people like me have been saying, just raise that threshold to £20,000. take millions of low income workers out of tax. that means you don't have to pay them in—work benefits. it's less hassle . they keep more of their hassle. they keep more of their money when they benefits money when they go from benefits into it will end a lot of into work. it will end a lot of the economic inactivity . we've the economic inactivity. we've had people not going back to work since covid, leading to

labour shortages there. the four main tax ideas that are knocking around emily in terms of bringing people out of tax altogether , could there be a bit altogether, could there be a bit of a moral hazard there? >> if you pay tax, you're contributing to society. you have a stake in society , you're have a stake in society, you're contributing to public services and things. should we worry at all about bringing too many people out of tax entirely, or am i talking nonsense? there >> you've got a point, but i'd say that that sort of philosophical if i may say so, aversion is offset by the practicalities of when people pay practicalities of when people pay lots of tax from 12.5 grand, a very low wage. a lot of them just don't bother going to work at all. we'd much rather people were at work paying tax and about circulating. that means fewer social problems that means we're less likely to be paying them what we call in—work benefits, which means now receiving. so look, this is a cross—party idea . a lot of cross—party idea. a lot of economists from left and right

want that personal tax allowance raised . i personally think the raised. i personally think the country needs a bold move to jump country needs a bold move to jump start the economy. we've beenin jump start the economy. we've been in lockdown. we've had a cost of living crisis. let's do something bold. raise the something bold. let's raise the personal tax allowance to £20,000 and revolutionise, in my view , the world of work. view, the world of work. >> well, liam, it's a fascinating idea, one that would appease both the right of the tory party who are calling for tax cuts, but also potentially many people who are critics of the saying the government saying they're not people not doing enough for people on low incomes. >> let's remember, there >> so let's remember, there seems political seems to be a political consensus across consensus at the moment across the board, labour and the conservatives, that the tax burden too high. so what will burden is too high. so what will the labour party have to say? they'll have something to say if inheritance is but not inheritance tax is cut, but not the allowance. the personal allowance. they'd be happy with that. >> yeah, might vote >> yeah, they might even vote for liam, thank you so for it. well, liam, thank you so much for bringing us the very latest. we know that the chancellor speaking latest. we know that the cha nextor speaking latest. we know that the cha next hour speaking latest. we know that the cha next hour as speaking latest. we know that the cha next hour as well. aking latest. we know that the cha next hour as well. might he the next hour as well. might he hint more? we'll we'll hint more? well, we'll we'll keep that. keep an eye on that. >> be nice if they us >> it'd be nice if they told us something straight. but we'll hear wednesday in hear we'll hear on wednesday in any moment, any case, in just a moment, we'll getting latest

we'll be getting the latest update situation update on the situation situation israel fighting situation in israel as fighting continues strip. continues in the gaza strip. this

isabel monday to thursdays from. six till 930 . six till 930. >> welcome back to good afternoon , britain. now there afternoon, britain. now there are real fears that pro—palestinian protests may turn increasingly violent in the days ahead. >> this comes after a weekend of direct action and follows other protests, which specifically targeted the offices of mps who

voted against calls for a ceasefire in gaza. >> and at the same time, negotiations to release some of the 240 hostages being held by hamas in gaza are said to be entering a critical phase as it's thought that up to 50 hostages could be released in return for a five day humanitarian pause. >> yes. so for the latest , our >> yes. so for the latest, our security editor mark white joins us now. mark lots of concerns have been raised over how the protests may become increasingly violent. we've seen intimidation often of politicians . where are often of politicians. where are we with that? how concerned should we be? yeah, we've also seen let's not forget , violence seen let's not forget, violence in the actual protests as well. >> a minority of those who are marching , but still a concern . marching, but still a concern. and yet, rachel reeves, who's the shadow chancellor, has said actually that some of these protesters have crossed the line from protesting to intimidation . from protesting to intimidation. ian, this is jo stevens office

in cardiff , the welsh secretary, in cardiff, the welsh secretary, shadow welsh secretary, dobbed with spray paint, saying murderer posters put up there as well, accusing her of having blood on her hands. another labour mp, rushanara ali, had her offices picketed in. bethnal green with a number of protesters and there are reports from quite a number of mps now that they have had death threats coming through from protesters as well as home addresses for some mps being posted online. so some mps being posted online. so some real concern, i think , some real concern, i think, going forward about the potential as we see more and more of the images coming out of gaza of the impact. this is having on the civilian population . ian. population. ian. >> yes, and we've seen lists of those mps who chose not to vote for the amendment on a ceasefire in gaza, who chose not to back that. in gaza, who chose not to back that . we've seen lists being

that. we've seen lists being published online. some might say that's just democracy in action. others might say it's encouraging intimidation of our politicians, difficult line to draw for. but of course, mps will be very wary of potential islamist threat. >> yes . >> yes. >> yes. >> so we don't have to cast our minds too far back to see that mps have come under some serious harm in the past. of course , harm in the past. of course, with the murders of jo cox and david amess as well . and i think david amess as well. and i think publishing lists of mps who voted one way or another is fine. but it's when these mps home addresses us are also being published that there is real concern. >> mark, let's zoom out a little bit and look at the instigating action of all of these protests. what's going on in israel and gaza, because of course, we've seen new footage in the last 24 hours uncovering cctv recording of hostages being taken to the

al—shifa hospital while the israeli military have claimed for some time that the al—shifa hospital is being used by hamas, that they have command and control structures underneath the hospital itself. >> and these cctv images which for our viewers in television , for our viewers in television, they can see for radio describe someone, a hostage , according to someone, a hostage, according to the idf, being bundled into that hospital. another hour on a stretcher. also being taken into the hospital as that other person is being bundled through the doors and according to the idf, this is in full view of medical staff. you can see medical staff. you can see medical staff. you can see medical staff in their scrubs. they're watching these people coming in. and of course , we coming in. and of course, we know that medical staff have claimed for many a long month that they have no knowledge whatsoever of hamas operating in and around the hospital. well, as well as those hostages being brought in as showed on the

hospitals own security cameras . hospitals own security cameras. there are the tunnel systems that are now beginning to be unearthed. one tunnel with which is more than 55m in length, according to the idf, has been unearthed . they sent a probe unearthed. they sent a probe down into that tunnel as well, which went down the shaft 20 odd metres and then into the tunnel system itself until it came up against a blast door. and at that point they didn't go any further because of the concerns about there being booby traps . about there being booby traps. but at some point it going forward they will try to unearth more of the tunnel systems remain over. the al—shifa hospital is a vast complex so they've got a lot of searching to do before they fully unearth all that may lie underneath this hospital. and in terms of the wider issue about hostages as well, yet another report coming

out about that negotiations that may be nearing fruition in in terms of a number of hostages, perhaps up to 50 be being released. but remember, you know, we've been here before on multiple occasions . we've heard multiple occasions. we've heard these stories coming from hamas and coming from qatar , who have and coming from qatar, who have been acting as brokers on behalf of hamas. there was a news conference today in london with some family members of those being held hostage and they spoke of their anguish at the many false dawns that have emerged about hostages being released. >> this story you bring with another deal here for releasing hostages and another deal there, 50 here, 80 there, 15, 12. there are lots of numbers everywhere . are lots of numbers everywhere. all this publishing is stepping our stomachs again , if you will, our stomachs again, if you will,

have families and kids just imagine one day, one of them's gone. >> just gone . you don't know >> just gone. you don't know where she is. you don't know you don't know what suffering she's going , whether she's been fed , going, whether she's been fed, watered. but not only that , just watered. but not only that, just the sheer terror of a nine year old girl . down the sheer terror of a nine year old girl. down in those dark tunnels . never seen the light of tunnels. never seen the light of day . it's deeply distressing to day. it's deeply distressing to listen to the anguish that those family members are going through. >> around 240 hostages still being held. i say around 240 hostages because they think that actually there's more than that. there are other missing people that they still haven't been able to account for at this stage, but they don't have any definite proof that they're being held hamas. being held by hamas. >> i heard thomas hand speaking yesterday at an anti anti—semitism vigil outside

whitehall yesterday outside downing street , and it was downing street, and it was incredibly moving . nine year old incredibly moving. nine year old daughter emily, who just had her birthday, really, really devastating and moving stuff . devastating and moving stuff. let's hope this deal does come to fruition and the hostages are freed. thank you very much for your time, mark white. our homeland security editor there, bringing latest . bringing us the very latest. >> but really, really moving pictures . but lots pictures there. but lots more coming for you on today's coming up for you on today's show . you'll shortly be hearing show. you'll shortly be hearing the thoughts of our panel. the former the sunday former editor of the sunday express, martin townsend, and former labour mp bill rammell on the stories that are happening right the united kingdom. right across the united kingdom. >> you want miss >> you don't want to miss it. this afternoon, britain this is good afternoon, britain on . gb news. on. gb news. >> it's 233. i'm sophia wenzler in the newsroom . the prime in the newsroom. the prime minister has promised to cut taxes carefully and sustainable early. rishi sunak says the government can move into the next phase of fixing the economy. now the inflation has

been halved. speaking ahead of wednesday's autumn statement, he identified five long term goals, which include reducing debt building sustained energy, supporting business and delivering world class education in the government's former chief scientific adviser has told the covid inquiry he's not convinced there was effective operational response to limit the spread of the virus when the pandemic started . and sir patrick started. and sir patrick vallance also described the scale of test and trace facilities through public england as inadequate and said the urgency of action across whitehall wasn't as consistent or as reliable as it should have been. or as reliable as it should have been . there are growing hopes been. there are growing hopes that dozens of hostages held by hamas in gaza may soon be released . a us, israel and released. a us, israel and qatari mediate leaders say a dealis qatari mediate leaders say a deal is edging closer. more than 200 people were taken by hamas on the 7th of october. so far , on the 7th of october. so far, only four have been released . it only four have been released. it comes after the israeli military claimed hamas hid and murdered

hostages at gaza's main hospital . me meanwhile, more than two dozen premature babies evacuated from al shifa hospital have arrived in egypt. gaza's health ministry says a joint operation by the un and palestinian red crescent has made the move possible. the hamas run ministry says an airstrike on different hospitals has killed at least 12 people in the north of the territory . me and you can get territory. me and you can get more on all those stories by visiting our website at gbnews.com .

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united kingdom have heretofore or used and enjoyed, or as they do at present use and enjoy in witness whereof we have caused these our letters to be made patent witness ourself at westminster . the 17th day of westminster. the 17th day of november, in the second year of our reign by warrant under the king's sign manual. i david lord cameron of chipping norton do swear by almighty god that i will be faithful and bear true allegiance to his majesty , king allegiance to his majesty, king charles, his heirs and successors, according to law. >> so help me god .

okay >> and there we have it , lord >> and there we have it, lord cameron of chipping norton , the cameron of chipping norton, the first prime minister to enter the lords since margaret thatcher in 1992, to swear in there and wearing ermine in a picture that no doubt will delight his political opponents, always criticised as someone who came from a rather well—to—do, well—to—do background and potentially leaning into that caricature in his ermine this afternoon. >> i mean, it's been quite the seven days for now lord cameron of chipping norton, foreign secretary , now formally joined secretary, now formally joined in the house of lords. he's been to ukraine as well for a visit . to ukraine as well for a visit. it's been a busy seven days. as for cameron, should we get the views of our panel?

>> let's let's do that. indeed because i understand that lord cameron will now be addressing the house of lords for the first time later this afternoon and then addressing the 1922 committee of conservative backbench mps as well. it's remarkable to see him back in pubuc remarkable to see him back in public life. martin yeah , a public life. martin yeah, a remarkable and slightly terrifying in my view , actually, terrifying in my view, actually, and rather desperate in my view as well. >> i really i don't quite understand why you would bring david cameron back, frankly . i david cameron back, frankly. i think looking at that, i think i can imagine a lot of ordinary people, not just tory voters, will that and go, will look at that and go, really, david cameron in ermine in the house of lords, the whole explain why. >> what is it that you think is i just shouldn't be there? why shouldn't he be? >> first all, there's >> well, first of all, there's been over the been a narrative over the weekend that that they're bringing by bringing david cameron back, bringing cameron back, they're bringing grown into government. grown ups back into government. i've seen david i've honestly never seen david cameron in that way. i think he's a really nice guy, very pleasant. and everything, but i never when was never rated him when he was prime and i think when prime minister and i think when push comes to shove and a job

really needs to be done, i just don't he's terribly good don't think he's terribly good at not think that the at it. do you not think that the weight prime weight of a former prime minister prime minister the minister prime minister of the uk knows a of uk for six years knows a lot of people international people on the international stage? >> @ someone stage? >> someone like that walk >> having someone like that walk into a room carries more weight than someone else. isn't that a good thing for british foreign policy? >> it may well be if he can dereh >> it may well be if he can deliver, but i, i my experience of david cameron is that he i mean, if you take, for instance, the brexit campaign, i was a brexiteer , so i was delighted by brexiteer, so i was delighted by the that he made such the fact that he made such a complete hash of presenting the remain because i think remain case, because i think i think he completely screwed that up.and think he completely screwed that up. and that was supposed to be so important him. he did so important to him. all he did was insult members of ukip by calling eyed loons calling them swivel eyed loons and not really lean into the fact that the eu had done an awful lot for britain. i'd say this even as a brexiteer and he could have made far more of that argument. didn't. could have made far more of that arg he ant. didn't. could have made far more of that arg he let didn't. could have made far more of that arg he let down didn't. could have made far more of that arg he let down lotin't. could have made far more of that arg he let down lotin'tpeople >> he let down a lot of people by abandoning his role when arguably we needed him the most . arguably we needed him the most. bill rammell , is your view quite

bill rammell, is your view quite as damning of now? lord cameron it's fairly damning. >> david cameron i'm an i'm an ardent remainer and i actually think he was a chancer in taking an enormous risk with the country's future . and he didn't country's future. and he didn't lead the remain campaign in in any way, shape or form. i think the other risk is if you're a really, really strong and credible prime minister then bringing a former prime minister back isn't a problem . but if back isn't a problem. but if you're a weak and vacillating prime minister, as i think rishi sunak increasingly demonstrates, he is , i think there are real he is, i think there are real risks and i think what it reveals is the zigzagging of tory policy . so firstly, after tory policy. so firstly, after the calamitous reign of liz truss , rishi was the stability truss, rishi was the stability guy - truss, rishi was the stability guy . he then pitched to the guy. he then pitched to the right. he's now apparently pitching to the centre and you know, i think behind that may be a recognition that he's going to lose the general election. he's lost the red wall. cameron might give him some help in retaining the blue wall, but it's all over

the blue wall, but it's all over the place. i think this is sunak wants to fix his personal style. >> uh, what's the word? reputation i don't think he wants to be seen as a right wing politician. >> i think it's really interesting. we've got a remainer and a brexiteer here who both that david who both think that david cameron, both have poor cameron, who both have poor views david cameron and views of david cameron and i think is this is the think this is this is the theresa trap, isn't it? if theresa may trap, isn't it? if you're someone who upsets the remainers , perhaps by calling remainers, perhaps by calling a referendum in the first place and then upsets the brexiteers by campaigning in the other way, you left two halves of you you've left two halves of the with nothing to like you you've left two halves of the you. with nothing to like you you've left two halves of the you. buth nothing to like you you've left two halves of the you. but let'shing to like you you've left two halves of the you. but let's pause» like you you've left two halves of the you. but let's pause thise about you. but let's pause this conversation for now, because it's just cameron who it's not just david cameron who is out and about today, but the chancellor of the exchequer, jeremy hunt, will be speaking at the cbi conference, the the annual cbi conference, the confederation of british industry. so let's join john foster, the chief policy officer for the cbi now and john, what would you like to hear from the chancellor this afternoon ? chancellor this afternoon? >> so look, obviously you just

speaking about stability , which speaking about stability, which has been so critical. and i think what we would say is the chancellor and the government deserves credit for using the last fiscal events to last two fiscal events to provide some stability. ask any business leader and they'll tell you stability is the precondition for growth. but the next stage and what the prime minister alluded to in his speech earlier this morning, is the need to inject a bit of momentum into the economy. and that's hoping the that's what we're hoping the chancellor a little chancellor will talk a little bit this afternoon, chancellor will talk a little bit also this afternoon, chancellor will talk a little bit also on this afternoon, chancellor will talk a little bit also on wednesday rnoon, chancellor will talk a little bit also on wednesday with], chancellor will talk a little bit also on wednesday with the but also on wednesday with the autumn statement convinced are you with the government's strategy? >> we've heard so many different rumours about all sorts of different tax cuts. do you believe there is space in the economy for some big giveaways? if we want to use that terminology , we. terminology, we. >> well, look, i guess it depends what the chancellor delivers on wednesday. the only thing i would say is we need to be really careful that a tax cut today doesn't lead to a tax rise tomorrow. so whatever he comes up with on wednesday needs to be

part of a plan for how we deliver sustainable growth. now for our money. the best way that you can really do that is by boosting business investment, which is why we've been campaigning for the chancellor to statement to to use the autumn statement to deliver full expensing. we think that's the most transformational thing he can do to really thing that he can do to really provide that momentum into the economy right now . economy right now. >> when a business invests , >> when a business invests, whether it be in machinery or technology, it can write off that investment against its tax bill. it can have lower taxes if it invests in britain . it invests in britain. >> that's exactly right. it's about encouraging businesses to invest. look what we know is that right now, the only growth that right now, the only growth that we're going to get is going to come almost exclusively from the private sector. the government doesn't have a lot of headroom for extra public investment, consumer demand is obviously soft because of monetary policy. and the bank of england rate rises working their way through . so we have do way through. so we have to do everything we can to encourage

business investment . it's also business investment. it's also about as close to a silver bullet as we've got for tackling the uk's productivity problem. so right. measures to so he exactly right. measures to boost business investment, encourage business to invest . encourage business to invest. and that's what we want to see on wednesday . on wednesday. >> thank very much >> well, thank you very much indeed time. indeed for your time. john foster, chief policy foster, their chief policy officer the confederation of officer at the confederation of british industry , aka the cbi. british industry, aka the cbi. should we bring back our panel into conversation on the into the conversation on the autumn martin well, autumn statement? martin well, actually , i'll start with bill. actually, i'll start with bill. sorry i'll start with bill, because as a former labour mp, i think there's a bit of a consensus between the conservatives and the labour party in terms of feeling like the tax burden is far too high. the labour party haven't really indicated that they have specific taxes that they wish to cut. i don't think yet. they've said they want to hold back before they make any big announcements because they haven't seen accounts haven't seen the accounts properly . who do you expect? do properly. who do you expect? do you expect the conservatives to bnng you expect the conservatives to bring the burden this bring down the tax burden this side election ? side of an election? >> i'm not sure because there's

been so many contradictory briefings. certainly i think in the term, taxes do need the medium term, taxes do need to come down because under the conservatives we've got the highest burden, i think, highest tax burden, i think, since the second world war. so that needs to tackled. but, that needs to be tackled. but, you after the experience you know, after the experience of truss unfunded tax of liz truss with unfunded tax cuts that hit all of us with higher mortgage, mortgage costs, the economy tanking, i think the conservatives need to be very careful and i'm not convinced that there's fiscal headroom there to bring in tax cuts . and there to bring in tax cuts. and some of the things that have been bandied about are cut to inheritance tax that would only benefit the wealthiest benefit the 3% wealthiest families country would be families in the country would be a disastrous move. actually, if there is money to spare, i actually think investment in pubuc actually think investment in public services because the impact of inflation on schools, on hospitals , on public on hospitals, on public transport and much more has been really severe . and, you know, really severe. and, you know, our infrastructure is crumbling. >> people hate inheritance tax, though even if they won't actually end up paying it.

there's a sense of injustice around it. a death tax, after you've lived your whole life. >> well, the sense of injustice is because it is unjust . that is because it is unjust. that and i think it affects way, way more than just the rich. i think it's a way of getting the property moving. i would property market moving. i would say same getting say also the same with getting rid duty. let's let's rid of stamp duty. let's let's get the market moving again. i don't think that it's a thing to don't think that it's a thing to do round and i kind of do this time round and i kind of agree with bill that i mean, it's down to it's down to the chancellor's this is chancellor's judgement. this is a we're talking about a man if we're talking about david been in politics a man if we're talking about da\ai been in politics a man if we're talking about da\a few been in politics a man if we're talking about da\a few jeremy politics a man if we're talking about da\a few jeremy hunt'ss for a few years. jeremy hunt's been few years been in politics for a few years too. run businesses. et too. he's run businesses. et cetera. cetera. he thinks cetera. et cetera. if he thinks there's that he can use, there's money that he can use, then i would be in favour of what we've just heard, which is, you to try and use that to you know, to try and use that to money traders money encourage small traders start ups, you know , get start ups, you know, get investment moving again. let's get some momentum going. but my view is, i think if he looks i don't think the money's there. and i think that it's more important. i think the most important. i think the most important thing at the moment is for the tories to restore or or try and restore their their kind

of their reputation for financial competency and do the right thing. so if there's no money, don't try and spend it moving something wider than the autumn statement. >> yeah, there's a story in the news today about simon cowell giving up working on fridays. is this indicative of our economy more widely? >> well, i used to i mean, i used to do a lot of work in the music business at one time. and a lot of people in the music business didn't work on a friday. i can tell you friday. but i can tell you something, cowell something, i bet simon cowell did cowell did did because simon cowell did very music business. very well in the music business. my very well in the music business. my of this know, is my view of this is, you know, is it's of fridays are like it's kind of fridays are like any other day. it's five days a week. if you go to work for five days a week, you should go to work for five days a week. i work for five days a week. i work on a friday and actually i get a lot done on a friday. why because so many people are away that lot that the phone rings a lot less and can actually on with and i can actually crack on with things. often i think is and i can actually crack on with thingzsaying| i think is and i can actually crack on with thingzsaying yomink is and i can actually crack on with thingzsaying you know, is and i can actually crack on with thingzsaying you know, four day crazy saying you know, four day weeks and three day week. >> what he's what actually >> what he's what he actually he told makes me told the sun. sure. it makes me laugh. yeah. so he's

laugh. he says yeah. so he's advised people not to on advised people not to work on friday because five day week friday because the five day week is he is pointless in his view. he says told the sun actually says he told the sun actually the first thing is take off fridays don't work fridays fridays don't work on fridays because to eat because you don't have to eat dinner don't calls because you don't have to eat dinn6530, don't calls because you don't have to eat dinn6530, don'tdon't calls because you don't have to eat dinn6530, don't read calls because you don't have to eat dinn6530, don't read emails|lls after 530, don't read emails after 530, don't read emails after 530. watch a happy movie and stay outside . and it's and stay outside. and it's unrealistic for some, this is the sort of civil servant style of working. >> well, i think it feeds in as well to the kind of changes that have happened since covid with people working from home, people working less. and i think there's a long term consequence. you know , because it hits you know, because it hits productivity and you don't get anything in life without working hard and i think certainly for someone like simon cowell , i someone like simon cowell, i think it sends out the wrong message. i think in the past when he was still grafting, he probably have worked. probably would have worked. >> it. >> absolutely had to get it. >> absolutely had to get it. >> right now, >> absolutely right now. now, he's can he's a multi—millionaire. he can sort back but perhaps he's a multi—millionaire. he can sort there's:k but perhaps he's a multi—millionaire. he can sort there's a but perhaps he's a multi—millionaire. he can sort there's a wider)erhaps he's a multi—millionaire. he can sort there's a wider lesson, perhaps there's a wider lesson, because it does seem to me that more businesses are saying, actually, we need people in the office more often, that we've

perhaps seen peak working from home, being and gone. >> you lose so much by >> and you lose so much by people constantly be working from home. you you lose that connectivity. the bouncing of ideas off of each other that you simply don't get through a screen. having said that, i'm very conscious that for young people they've bought into working from home significantly . working from home significantly. so i think there needs to be some compromise. but i think a minimum of three days a week in the i think that's a the office, i think that's a good idea. >> thank you very much >> well, thank you very much indeed forjoining us. our wonderful panellists, former editor the express, editor of the sunday express, martin townsend, and former labour mp bill rammell. thank you time. you for your time. >> coming it's >> well, coming up next, it's martin dalby daubney, who magically on the sofa magically appears on the sofa next to us. now squeezed in what's up on your show what's coming up on your show first fantastic show. first of all fantastic show. >> afternoon britain punchy >> good afternoon britain punchy pacey great chemistry well done. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> great stuff. >> great stuff. >> i've got just the boiler coming in. >> going to say time >> we're going to say time for you to just tax cuts. you to just stop tax cuts. >> alas, we'll have jeremy hunt live 340. live at 340. >> for our illegals, that's >> and for our illegals, that's

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scotland. first thing, plenty of sunshine here early on, a lot of cloud elsewhere, low cloud mist and anglia and the and fog for east anglia and the south—east rain south—east and some showery rain continuing here into the afternoon. elsewhere, it's a largely dry and bright autumn day, crisp blue skies , but the day, crisp blue skies, but the sunshine turning hazy across scotland and northern ireland. later, as the next system starts to move in, that will bring breezy and wet conditions for scotland, northern ireland and northern england during wednesday, a drier and brighter start to the day for the south of the uk. but even here it will cloud over with some spots of rain later thursday sees rain sink south, followed by much colder conditions for the end of the week

>> welcome to the show. it's 3 pm. i'm martin daubney tonnes p.m. i'm martin daubney tonnes coming up on today's show, top story as just stop oil once again launch a series of protests to bring cities to a halt . i'm protests to bring cities to a halt. i'm going to get one of their head honchos into this studio and say , is it time for studio and say, is it time for you lot to just stop? >> next up, tax cuts at last sing hazanas. >> finally, some crumbs of comfort seem to be coming our way. rishi sunak has hinted as much this morning. we'll cross live to jeremy hunt at 340, hopefully with some much needed financial respite. next up , an financial respite. next up, an amnesty for illegal immigrants

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