fri day friday >> good evening . friday >> good evening. i'm friday >> good evening . i'm sorry. yes, >> good evening. i'm sorry. yes, good evening and welcome to patrick christys tonight. how it started for just stop oil >> if you block the road, of course, disruption and you could be arrested under section seven of the public order act versus how we ended for just stop oil.

>> now, like i said, they're being lifted and they're being shifted and they're going to stick them in the back of these police vans . police vans. >> well, just stop. oil just got nixed, didn't they? the police have done their job. next stop, have done theirjob. next stop, the pro—palestine protest. but coming up in the clash, are teachers indoctrinating kids with radical transgender ideology ? ideology? >> i'll always be your friend , >> i'll always be your friend, thomas. thomas the teddy took a deep breath . i need to be deep breath. i need to be myself. errol in my heart, i've always known that i'm a girl. teddy not a boy. teddy i wish my name was tim. well this is the book that caused all the controversy where teddy becomes tilly . tilly. >> what's going on in your kids schools? and of course, we've got the inside track on whether or not meghan markle and prince harry spend christmas with harry will spend christmas with the sandringham . and the royals at sandringham. and it's a winning panel tonight. ready to get lively on the sofa. we have got controversial. carol

maloney . we've belligerent. maloney. we've got belligerent. benjamin butterworth and we've got the beautiful belinda deluise. good stuff. all right. so it's patrick christys tonight andifs so it's patrick christys tonight and it's very much live . and it's very much live. well, get in touch now. gb views gbnews.com. would you pull your child out of primary school if they were taught about being born into the wrong body? >> go to twitter and gb news. we've got a stellar line up, but it's really all about you. so talk to me. i will see you after the headlines . the headlines. >> very good evening to you. i'm aaron armstrong. the gb newsroom rishi sunak argued against a second lockdown during the pandemic and both he and boris johnson were in favour of letting coronavirus spread , even letting coronavirus spread, even though people would die. dare entries from the former chief

scientific officer sir patrick vallance revealed at the covid inquiry, noted how boris johnson wanted to let the disease rip while his most senior adviser, dominic cummings, suggested mr sunak, then chancellor thought it was okay to let people die . it was okay to let people die. downing street says the prime minister will set out his own position when he gives evidence to the inquiry in further revelations, sir patrick described boris johnson as weak and indecisive and clearly bamboozled by scientific detail . bamboozled by scientific detail. >> certainly when i left a meeting, i would be i would usually be persuaded that we had got him to understand what it was we were trying to say. but as one of the extracts showed you put up there that six hours later he might not have remembered what was what was in that presentation . that presentation. >> meanwhile, the prime minister's promised tax cuts to boost economic growth and reward hard work ahead of wednesday's autumn. statement. rishi sunak says the government can move into the next phase of fixing the economy. now inflation has been halved but says any tax

cuts will made carefully and cuts will be made carefully and sustainably . sustainably. >> we will do this in a serious, responsible way based on fiscal rules to deliver sound money and alongside the independent forecasts of the office of budget response ability. and we can't do everything all at once as it will take discipline and we need to prioritise . but over we need to prioritise. but over time we can and we will cut taxes for men have been convicted of murdering a woman who was shot with a machine gun in liverpool. >> ashley dale died after being found with gunshot wounds in her garden in august last year. the 28 year old was killed when james witham forced his way into her home and opened fire. sean zeiss, nalbari and joseph pierce were also found guilty of her murder. the israeli city of tel aviv has come under a huge hamas rocket attack . more than 100 rocket attack. more than 100 separate alerts sounded across the city, stretching as far

south as ashdod. a number of the rockets fired from gaza evaded israel's iron dome missile defence system, although no injuries have been reported. israeli airstrikes talks are continuing in gaza , the hamas continuing in gaza, the hamas run health ministry said one such attack on a hospital has killed at least 12 palestinians. former . manchester city defender former. manchester city defender benjamin mendy has launched a multi—million pound claim against the club over unpaid wages. the 29 year old who left city over the summer alleges he wasn't after being charged wasn't paid after being charged with rape and sexual assault in 2020. one. the france international was subsequently cleared of all charges in august. the high court heard mendy was selling his house in a bid to avoid bankruptcy as he battles against an £800,000 tax bill from hmrc. battles against an £800,000 tax bill from hmrc . this is gb news. bill from hmrc. this is gb news. we are live on dab tv and tunein radio two. now it's over to .

patrick >> well, come along now . today >> well, come along now. today just stop. oil just got nicked. the met police after months and months of behaving like statues , months of behaving like statues, actually did their job and every moment was caught on camera by gb news for your viewing pleasure. around 50 of the presumably jobless yobs advertised that they were going to start seven consecutive days of climate action starting in trafalgar square . they were trafalgar square. they were geared up. they were ready to go. and then this happened. >> ladies and gentlemen, if you can keep your protest on the pavement , can keep your protest on the pavement, you're more than welcome to carry on your protest. >> if you block the road, of course, disrupt . course, disrupt. >> and you could be arrested under section seven of the pubuc under section seven of the public order act. >> well, like orange lemmings , >> well, like orange lemmings, they ignored the warning. and then wallop. they only made it 50 yards down the road before they regretted having ever stepped foot off the pavement . stepped foot off the pavement. officers, officers , officers officers, officers, officers start arresting , please . as you start arresting, please. as you can see from some of these

pictures, as promised, the arrest came thick and fast, didn't they? within minutes, the protest was over and the marchers piled into the back of police vans . now, it's good to police vans. now, it's good to see the police stepping in and actually doing their job, because until now, it's fallen on members of the public like a pair of scaffolders actually to step in and make their own minds felt. look at them now. just doing their. doing their bit. they would say other people, of course, would say that was violence and we can't condone any of that behaviour. but the fact appears that the fact appears to be that the police comfortable police feel more comfortable arresting white middle class crusties for crusties than people calling for jihad streets recently. jihad on the streets recently. there's something interesting jihad on the streets recently. there's �*to nething interesting jihad on the streets recently. there's �*to nething with asting jihad on the streets recently. there's �*to nething with justg starting to happen with just stop they are hopping on stop oil. they are hopping on any political issue that will mobilise the hard left of this country. so on saturday just stop. oil staged a sit in at london's waterloo station , but london's waterloo station, but they weren't protesting really about climate change. they were suddenly part of the pro—palestine throng calling for a ceasefire in gaza. just listen to this woman who was posted by

the group on social media. i will not be complicit with the genocidal government that thousands of children are getting murdered. >> what are you doing? why aren't you here sitting down in the station? it's easier than standing up and going on a march with a million people. do something . for that. something. for that. >> wide ranging activism doesn't end there. because remember, just last month, when a rabble of the hives hypocrite tried to block a bus taking migrants to the bibby stockholm barge . the bibby stockholm barge. fortunately, the driver was having absolutely none of it. didn't stop, didn't even blink. actually that guy. there we go . actually that guy. there we go. so the police won in the battle of waterloo on saturday. they won the battle of trafalgar. today but the way things are going, just stop. oil aggressively. propane mark steyn, lgbtq, whatever else there is. refugees. welcome. they're all morphing into the same thing, aren't they? a load of people used to just be left wing because they cared about the working class. now you also

have to a woman can a have to think a woman can have a penis. should open penis. we should have open borders we need to live in a borders and we need to live in a solar powered commune. i'm asking has the left lost the plot? let's get the thoughts plot? but let's get the thoughts of panel. we've got of my wonderful panel. we've got daily columnist carole daily express columnist carole malone. and malone. we've got journalist and broadcaster butterworth broadcaster benjamin butterworth and brexit party mp . not and former brexit party mp. not happy about that. benjamin maybe you have lost the plot. former brexit party mep belinda de lucy carroll i'll start with with you on this. i mean, it is starting to look a little bit like the left might have lost the plot. no, it's interesting. >> you know, they've jumped onto the just stop oil press. >> there was a peer reviewed study last year out of the university of bern , which was university of bern, which was talking activism and what talking about activism and what it's it was it's driven by. and it was saying they're all nazis , saying that they're all nazis, fascists. they're people who and that woman that was that woman there that was shouting exactly the example shouting is exactly the example of what this study was talking about. who about. there are people who want to to all of us, they're to say to all of us, they're promoting themselves selves. they're . they're showing they're taking. they're showing themselves to have a moral superiority to the rest of us

and saying, why aren't you there? because they're morally superior to us. and i just think it's interesting that they've jumped it doesn't matter jumped on. it doesn't matter what, they're just what, cause they're just narcissists who are who are intent causing mayhem, both intent on causing mayhem, both for the for this government and for the for this government and for everyone. so doesn't matter what. cause it's like rent a cause , you know, we'll go cause, you know, we'll go anywhere to anything. and it's just interesting. this. this this, this study says that it's, you know, they they need to promote themselves in a positive light . they tend to be very kind light. they tend to be very kind of people who aren't happy with their own lives. and so they try to make themselves look better and feel morally superior by joining these things. and they're looking down on the rest of and saying, you're of us and saying, because you're not in march, because not in this march, because you're supporting cause not in this march, because you'r but supporting cause not in this march, because you'r but thatiporting cause not in this march, because you'r but that woman cause not in this march, because you'r but that woman seems use not in this march, because you'r but that woman seems to; now, but that woman seems to completely everyone on those marches seems to have completely forgot precipitated them, forgot what precipitated them, which is the october the 7th attack by hamas in israel. so never mind those kids who were murdered there and the kids who were there. but yeah , but were raped there. but yeah, but look, benjamin, you know, many

people decided that people seriously decided that they were going to be of the left because a certain left because they had a certain economic of the world and economic view of the world and they wanted fight for they wanted to fight maybe for working class rights. >> think you do have >> and now i think you do have to also sign up to things like, you know, being pro—palestine or thinking as lgbtq+ rights thinking that as lgbtq+ rights and the kids should be taught about goodness knows what in school, stuff school, all of this stuff that shouldn't have anything shouldn't really have anything to do with it. well i think caring minority is caring about minority issues is a the left , a characteristic of the left, and i think that's something that of as someone that i'm proud of as someone who's left. who's on the centre left. >> look, i think these >> but look, i think these people problem is, first of people the problem is, first of all, they're not they're labour left, are much left, right. these are much further that. they're further than that. so they're not people that i encounter. the fact is that, you know, the idea that think blocking train that they think blocking a train station stop station when they're just stop oil is going to be an effective way to bring people on their side. i don't think it's going to happen because that obviously is a green way to is blocking a green way to protest. and agree with protest. and i don't agree with them the palestinian issue. them on the palestinian issue. and i think, know, the idea and i think, you know, the idea that with the dreadlocks that jemima, with the dreadlocks protesting station that jemima, with the dreadlocks prgoing|g station that jemima, with the dreadlocks prgoing to station that jemima, with the dreadlocks prgoing to change station that jemima, with the dreadlocks prgoing to change the station that jemima, with the dreadlocks prgoing to change the ideaon that jemima, with the dreadlocks

prgoing to change the idea of is going to change the idea of the government the israeli government is clearly happen, clearly not not going to happen, let alone even if keir starmer changed mind. i'm very changed his mind. and i'm very proud labour leader has proud that the labour leader has stood israel this. stood by israel in this. but even if did, the israeli even if he did, the israeli government wouldn't care and so i some these people, i think some of these people, but neither hamas as well, crucially. >> well, precisely because because a keir because the idea that a keir starmer anyone standing starmer or anyone standing up and right. you know, and going right. okay, you know, ceasefire and ceasefire ceasefire now and hamas are going to, you know, adhere to that is absolutely bonkers . bonkers. >> well only one side has said they'll never have a ceasefire. a hamas leader said that we hope this moves us into a state of perpetual so don't they perpetual war. so why don't they attack perpetual war. so why don't they attiwell, well, there you go. and >> well, well, there you go. and where is all the calls in parliament for the releasing of the etcetera? we are the hostages, etcetera? we are a bit going be talking bit later on going to be talking more belinda. can i ask more about belinda. can i ask you as by way, john writes you as by the way, john writes in views at views .com. in gb views at gb views .com. thank very much. they've thank you very much. they've totally the plot there totally lost the plot there a shower of narcissists agreeing with you there, carol. but belinda, i ask you, you belinda, can i ask you, you know, police very know, the police very, very quick, very efficient. they're very warn these very much able to warn these people get them lifted. do people and get them lifted. do you feel more you think they feel more

comfortable white comfortable arresting white middle other demographics? >> well, i think there's a belief now that all this sort of you police by consent it it's now of well you police now sort of well you police those the consent those who agree to the consent you and you don't police you know and you don't police those don't agree. those who don't agree. >> a dangerous >> and that is a dangerous dangerous territory. i long for the days of swampy. do you remember the 1990s eco warrior the days of swampy. do you remejuster the 1990s eco warrior the days of swampy. do you remejust hung 1990s eco warrior the days of swampy. do you remejust hung outds eco warrior the days of swampy. do you remejust hung out in eco warrior the days of swampy. do you remejust hung out in eco trees?r who just hung out in the trees? that's what how you did that's that's what how you did it now distancing it and he's now distancing himself eco himself from these eco extremists. and the police extremists. and yes the police have a wonderful job right have done a wonderful job right now but they have done it now but they should have done it right at beginning. right at the beginning. lift them chuck. them in them up, chuck. chuck them in them up, chuck. chuck them in the this is a whole the van. this is a whole socialist behind blm, socialist agenda behind blm, behind other behind all these other extinction rebellion, all these other kind left wing protests other kind of left wing protests . they all want to unravel western civilisation and they're anti—capitalist, anti—west and it's running theme through it's a running theme through them and they're alienating them all. and they're alienating huge amounts of their their supporters. >> is not it, though? >> is that not it, though? benjamin, i'll come back to you in second, carol, is in a second, carol, but is that not exactly point, which is not exactly the point, which is that you just scratch the that when you just scratch the surface they do surface on this lot, they do want to just shatter everything that they?

that we hold dear, don't they? >> well, no, i think climate change is going to shatter everything we dear. everything that we hold dear. and they've got so and the fact that they've got so much media attention so much much media attention and so much pubuc much media attention and so much public issue public support on the issue of climate change, think is climate change, i think is something that just stop oil should be immensely of. something that just stop oil shorthe 3e immensely of. something that just stop oil shorthe problem 1sely of. something that just stop oil shorthe problem isely of. something that just stop oil shorthe problem iselythey of. something that just stop oil shorthe problem iselythey talk but the problem is if they talk about if they copy and paste that onto other topics, then i think lose some think they lose some credibility. >> you know, talk about >> you know, when we talk about just oil, we don't talk just stop oil, we don't talk about change we about climate change anymore. we talk they are talk about what idiots they are and just it just and this just shows me it just shows that the all these protest shows that the all these protest s satisfy their own egos. s are to satisfy their own egos. it's self—promotion itself. it's not self—promotion itself. it's not self—promotion itself. it's satisfy egos. it's about satisfy their egos. and see it with them and you can see it with them all. all have look on all. they all have a look on their faces. they look slightly deranged about them deranged and i hate about them as they're encouraging as well as they're encouraging young people before they even get have a career, get a chance to have a career, to a criminal record. to get a criminal record. >> and they're shredding the nerves one of the nerves of our young. one of the masterminds and just stop masterminds behind and just stop oil. i think name is roger oil. i think his name is roger hallam. he talks such nonsense about the about 6 billion dying in the near decades. >> happening, >> cannibalism happening, terrifying >> cannibalism happening, terri ying our young >> cannibalism happening, terriying our young are >> cannibalism happening, terri ying our young are really >> i mean, our young are really suffering because these suffering because of these extremists. quite a bit, >> he does quite a bit, especially, i think well. i especially, i think as well. i think in saying this

think i'm right in saying this with the extinction rebellion as well. and has come out with well. and he has come out with some fruity some incredibly fruity things that at genuine that if you take that at genuine face you're talking about face value, you're talking about them breaking into your people will into homes. will break into your homes. people rape your people will will rape your mothers all of stuff. mothers and all of this stuff. and you think, goodness gracious me. do take that at me. but people do take that at face and now have a face value and we now have a generation of just generation of some of the just stop activists who are stop oil activists who are saying, won't kids saying, i won't have kids for the future planet. and the future of our planet. and part of me does wonder when you see them, whether or not see some of them, whether or not that's but but that's entirely. but but but then well, is this is then you think, well, is this is this really where we're where we're at at the moment? i mean, ben, does does it ever make ben, does that does it ever make you to leftwing? you ashamed to be leftwing? >> because, know, the >> no, because, you know, the vast majority of people who would vote the party, would vote for the labour party, let labour party, let alone in the labour party, are more reasonable than are far more reasonable than that. standing up that. and i think standing up for rights should be for lgbt rights should not be conflated dragged conflated with being dragged through waterloo station. i think the former is perfectly reasonable, but but these people aren't democratic means. reasonable, but but these people areiyou democratic means. reasonable, but but these people areiyou know,emocratic means. reasonable, but but these people areiyou know,emocrewhat'sans. reasonable, but but these people areiyou know,emocrewhat's going >> you know, that's what's going to all these to be happening with all these demos. one's going to know demos. no one's going to know which one is for which one is which one is for what, the cause itself doesn't matter anymore. it's them

drawing attention to themselves. the placard the cause is the placard socialist worker can be found in almost those protests. >> it's the same. >> it's the same. >> it's the same. >> it's a running theme through all of and it's because all of them. and it's because they get elected. so they they can't get elected. so they try they're professional try and they're professional disruptors pain disruptors trying to cause pain and to the public. and suffering to the public. >> that's the brexit party genuinely, i feel >> that's the brexit party genuirsorry i feel >> that's the brexit party genuirsorry for i feel >> that's the brexit party genuirsorry for the i feel >> that's the brexit party genuirsorry for the people l >> that's the brexit party genuirsorry for the people who really sorry for the people who go to any one of these individual demonstrations that we about that we see and just care about that cause actually just cause and actually are just quite mannered, quite mild mannered, normal people want some of people who want to raise some of the personal issues that the very personal issues that are there. and then before you know it, you're sitting at some nutter saying they fully support hamas, you've someone hamas, but you've got someone there, floppy in there, you know, going floppy in front the police you've there, you know, going floppy in fron and the police you've there, you know, going floppy in fron and you police you've there, you know, going floppy in fron and you just :e you've there, you know, going floppy in fron and you just think, you've there, you know, going floppy in fron and you just think, whoa, got and you just think, whoa, oh, someone's up oh, someone's smashing up a bank. i wouldn't want to be associated with these people. but out to but anyway, we reached out to just stop oil comment just stop oil for comment but received reply. however, one received no reply. however, one of their activists, pippa calton, always calton, said it's always something like pepper, isn't it? the arrest its the government cannot arrest its way out of the situation. we are in, just like we cannot vote our way taking action way out. i am taking action because i cannot sit back and be complicit government's complicit in the government's plans millions die so

plans to let millions die so they further their they can further line their pockets. come together pockets. we have come together to because together to resist because together we can the opposition can be the opposition the country can win. so country needs and we can win. so apparently just oil. have apparently just stop oil. have six days of gathering in six more days of gathering in trafalgar square, taking one foot off the pavement and then being nicked. all being nicked. so great. all right. crack on. still to come, though, as insiders claim that harry and meghan would accept an invitation to spend christmas this year with rest of the this year with the rest of the royal family, does this mark a turning the sussexes turning point for the sussexes relationship with the king? editor large the mail. on editor at large the mail. on sunday, charlotte griffiths joins all the latest joins me to spill all the latest royal scoops . but next in the royal scoops. but next in the clash, as transgender teddy royal scoops. but next in the clash,have ansgender teddy royal scoops. but next in the clash,have actuallyar teddy royal scoops. but next in the clash,have actually caused' royal scoops. but next in the clash,have actually caused so bears have actually caused so much controversy, i've still got the book here, actually. here we go. have little look at go. let's have a little look at it. there we go. yeah, there we are in doctrine dating kids. it's no, it's not. it's called. oh, no, it's not. it's called. oh, no, it's not. it's introduce king teddy introducing teddy. anyway so are impressionable introducing teddy. anyway so are impressi seriously actually seriously being indoctrinated ? would indoctrinated? would you pull your of primary school your kids out of primary school if found out that they were if you found out that they were being taught that might being taught that they might have been born into the wrong body? the family education trust

lucy head head lucy marsh goes head to head with activist with campaigner and activist peter prepare for peter tatchell. prepare for fireworks . don't move

>> you're listening to gb news radio . radio. >> coming up, editor at large at the mail, charlotte griffiths on the mail, charlotte griffiths on the shocking prospect of harry and meghan actually being ianed and meghan actually being invited to sandringham for christmas this year. but now it's christmas this year. but now wsfime christmas this year. but now it's time for clash . so will it's time for the clash. so will this book about a trans gender teddy bear being your kid's stocking this christmas ? no, stocking this christmas? no, didn't think so. but a primary school teacher in hertfordshire has been lambasted after using the controversial picture book to teach kids as young as ten about gender ideology . that's about gender ideology. that's right. the book introducing tilly is sparking fury among campaigners who fear that the story is being used to indoctrinate young people by making them think about whether they are actually born into the wrong body and then glorifying

it with a story of unbridled happiness. just take a look at this and a listen. >> i'll always be your friend, thomas . >> i'll always be your friend, thomas. thomas, >> i'll always be your friend, thomas . thomas, the teddy took a thomas. thomas, the teddy took a deep breath . i need to be myself deep breath. i need to be myself . if errol if my heart i've always . known that i'm a girl. always. known that i'm a girl. teddy not a boy. teddy i wish my name was tilly , not thomas . name was tilly, not thomas. >> good for you , tilly. wear >> good for you, tilly. wear whatever makes you happy , said whatever makes you happy, said ava. i'll think i'll get rid of my bow. i like my hair free. yeah, it goes on like this. they played together all morning. see you . tea party next. yeah. see you. tea party next. yeah. see you. tea party next. yeah. see you there . i'm bringing you there. i'm bringing a friend. etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. anyway, basically what this book shows us is, well, essentially a very glorified version of what it might be like for a child to just change gender like that. the charity no outsiders have arranged for schools to read this to youngsters with campaigners

concerned about children's welfare by being exposed to what is. let's be honest, an incredibly complicated issue. teacher andrew moffat said. as a teacher, we've got to find ways to prepare children for life in modern britain, where they are going to meet people who are christian, muslim, hindu, sikh or have no faith or have different families, sexualities . different families, sexualities. fine. but what do you think? should we be teaching primary school children what we can? well, that we can be any gender that we want to be or is this indoctrination? let me know your thoughts now. email me gbviews@gbnews.com . they have gbviews@gbnews.com. they have been flying in so far or go to those to some caucus in there. you can, of course, tweet us as well at gb news. and while you're there, go and take part in our poll. i'll bring you the results shortly. but it's a debate this now. joined by debate this now. i'm joined by lucy from family lucy marsh from the family education rights education trust and human rights campaigner tatchell. thank campaigner peter tatchell. thank you for joining you very, very much for joining me. lucy, i'll start with you. do you that teddy bears do you think that teddy bears like are indoctrinating like this are indoctrinating children ? well not teddy bears

children? well not teddy bears in particular. >> this is this book certainly is. it'sjust >> this is this book certainly is. it's just being >> this is this book certainly is. it'sjust being used >> this is this book certainly is. it's just being used as a vehicle to indoctrinate children about the false concept that you can be born in the wrong body and this has no place in schools. primary schools should not be used as vehicles to indoctrinate young children . indoctrinate young children. it's not appropriate. it's a contested ideology that has no bafisin contested ideology that has no basis in scientific fact . and it basis in scientific fact. and it shouldn't be in schools . shouldn't be in schools. >> peter teddy has a new name. let me introduce you to tilly. what's a great name? let's go and play tilly. so what's a great name? let's go and play tilly . so teddy what's a great name? let's go and play tilly. so teddy is it's not a complicated concept to grasp this book, by the way. it is a very, very unhappy teddy bean is a very, very unhappy teddy bear. something's really bugging him. it's all miserable and dark in teddy land. and then teddy decides to tell his friend that actually teddy is now tilly moves his bow tie up to the top of his head, presumably to symbolise now a girl. symbolise that he's now a girl. change name tilly and change his name to tilly and life becomes absolutely flipping brilliant. that's not really

true, it, peter ? true, is it, peter? >> well, i can assure you this bookis >> well, i can assure you this book is not about indoctrinating or propagandising children at all. it's about encouraging and understanding tolerance and acceptance and respect it. >> it's designed to tackle the bullying of trans kids in our schools, which no parent, i think, would approve of. >> we don't want any child called trans or otherwise to be bullied or teased or to feel unsafe or unincluded . so this unsafe or unincluded. so this bookis unsafe or unincluded. so this book is just simply it's about love kind and friendship. it's about accepting people who are different from yourself and the bafic different from yourself and the basic principle applies across the board. you know, accept people of different faiths or races , accept people of races, accept people of different cultural backgrounds. it's a story of tolerance, not a not of lucy. >> come back to that and then do you agree with that ? you agree with that? >> no, i don't agree with that . >> no, i don't agree with that. why do anti—bullying policies have to focus on one particular

group? if you're teaching children not to bully people , children not to bully people, you should be teaching them not to bully anyone. they don't have to bully anyone. they don't have to focus on on one particular on one particular group. and actually comparing transgender ideology faiths ideology to two different faiths is also well, suppose i suppose in a way it could be seen as a religion because there's no there is no basis to say that there's such a thing as a trans, as a trans child. it's actually harmful to say that children are transgender and we certainly don't believe that this transgender and we certainly don'thislieve that this transgender and we certainly don'this is ve that this transgender and we certainly don'this is this that this transgender and we certainly don'this is this is that this transgender and we certainly don'this is this is something this this is this is something that exists. yes. >> okay. now, peter, it's not really this book, though, really just this book, though, is know what we're is it? i know that's what we're centring discussion on centring our discussion on today, it's not really just today, but it's not really just this because parents are this book because parents are also about very also very concerned about very young being taught young children being taught about sexual about quite graphic sexual things like anal sex and orgasms and do kids really need to be taught about that in school? >> think you'll find >> no, i don't think you'll find that any young children are being those issues. being taught about those issues. but think happen is but i think what may happen is that older children, 16 and plus may have those issues raised can

i just ask can i just ask them on that? >> do you do you seriously think that do you seriously think that when parents are quoted in the media to as saying this is what my child is being taught at school and they're horrified about that, do you think they're lying? >> well, there may be 1 or examples. >> isles, but it's not representative of what's happening in the vast majority of schools. and certainly all the teachers i know say very clearly that for young children , clearly that for young children, particularly primary school children, there is nothing being taught about sex. it's all about love. different families and relationships . it's about relationships. it's about letting young kids know that, you know, some people will have two parents, a mum and a dad. some will live in an extended family with perhaps grandparents or cousins or aunts, and some will live in same sex families. that's not about sex. it's just about the reality of modern british family life. lucy in your work at the family education trust, do you have you come anything that

come across anything that refutes what says there ? refutes what peter says there? >> so much evidence. >> there's so much evidence. there's reams of evidence that there's inappropriate relationship and sex education in schools at all levels. primary schools and secondary schools. so much of this is taught to children under the age of legal consent. it is inappropriate. it teachers are not therapists. they're not doctors. teachers should not be teaching children about what? about explicit sex acts and about sexual pleasure. is inappro appropriate in schools? and it shouldn't be shouldn't be happening. parents don't want it . the majority of parents don't want it. and parents are the primary educators their primary educators of their children to children. it's not up to teachers and shouldn't be up teachers and it shouldn't be up to the state to decide who teaches about teaches children. about about explicit sex acts. it's just not unnecessary in schools. and it's harmful. >> peter, some people are very concerned. peter some people are very concerned. peter that what this means is that it opens up a door where people think that children from a very young age are able to consent about, about

their sexual identity and their gender and then off the back of that may indeed then be able to consent to other sexual things that as children, they should not be able to do . or the theory not be able to do. or the theory there will be that this is a could be a vehicle for paedophilia. your views as well. >> it certainly should not be such a vehicle and paedophilia is abhorrent, but i can assure you that the purpose of relationship and sex education in schools is to protect young people against abusive relationships , against dangerous relationships, against dangerous diseases like hiv and against just bad relationships where one person bullies and controls the other. it's all about promoting the health and welfare of young people. and we know from the surveys that most parents say they want their children to be educated about relationships and sex in schools , that they sex in schools, that they themselves don't feel able and

capable of doing it. themselves don't feel able and capable of doing it . and they're capable of doing it. and they're very grateful that teachers do it. and the end result is that where schools do this, they have lower rates of teenage pregnancies and abortions, lower rates of hiv and lower rates of sex abuse. all right. so good quality sex education works . it quality sex education works. it protects young people , which is protects young people, which is what lucy want. >> do you think that if parents see literature like this book, introducing teddy, a story about being yourself, being taught to their kids, that they will be within their rights to pull their children out of school, i think that what we actually need, we need the government to restore the right for parents to withdraw their children from relations and sex education. >> at the moment that they can withdraw their child from sex education. the problem is, education. but the problem is, is that they can't withdraw them from relationship education, which a of this which is where a lot of this indoctrination and sexualised children , sexualising children, children, sexualising children, is coming in. um, and is actually coming in. um, and we need to have that option back so that parents can withdraw

their child from that because parents parents don't want it. they don't want their young children being taught that they could be born in the wrong body and don't want their child and they don't want their child being dangerous being taught dangerous and harmful sex acts so that children are just too young to actually risks children are just too young to actu are risks children are just too young to actu are involved risks children are just too young to actu are involved . risks that are involved. >> okay, look, both of you, >> ed, okay, look, both of you, thank much. good thank you very, very much. good clash get us going there. clash to get us going there. that was the wonderful lucy marsh from the family education trust of course, human trust and, of course, human rights campaigner peter tatchell. you, thank you tatchell. both of you, thank you very just going very, very much. i'm just going to to the inbox very quickly to go to the inbox very quickly on this. kathleen says, yep, patrick, they are indoctrinating young, is young, impressionable minds is disgusting. gb views at gb views .com. thank you very much everybody who's getting in touch. the inbox is on fire over this always gets you going this stuff. so do you agree with stuff. so who do you agree with though as it's revealed that transgender bears are. transgender teddy bears are. i don't know. don't know don't know. i don't really know what transgender what a specific transgender teddy bear looks like, but apparently so sorry apparently that's it. so sorry if but there go. if you're not. but there we go. are being used to teach gender ideology primary schools, and ideology in primary schools, and campaigners that campaigners are they right that children being children are actually being indoctrinated? been

indoctrinated? people have been getting as getting on to us on twitter as well, who says anyone well, like d, who says anyone caught this should caught doing this should be sacked kids don't sacked immediately. kids don't need know this leave need to know this stuff. leave them but then you them alone. yeah, but then you see, i worry that they think they're doing the right thing, don't think don't they? they think they're doing right teachers doing the right thing. teachers carry this carry on. twitter says this indoctrination kids has indoctrination of our kids has happened tory government happened under a tory government . is a belief and sex is . gender is a belief and sex is a protected characteristic. but no school is teaching this this truth. that's, of course, the views of you carry there you are right though it has happened under a tory government and you know, all often i think it's know, all too often i think it's all well good for the all very well and good for the tories to say, oh look, this will worse under will get much worse under laboun will get much worse under labour, possibly, quite possibly would, it? there would, wouldn't it? but there has allowed happen. the has been allowed to happen. the creep, been creep, creep, creep has been allowed alex allowed to happen. alex on twitter says kids need to be taught somehow and taught about gender somehow and doing a way they can doing it in a way that they can relate is just good teaching. relate to is just good teaching. it's that age old question, though, alex, isn't it, the though, alex, isn't it, of the chicken egg? i cast chicken and the egg? so i cast my back to when i was at my mind back to when i was at school, and i wonder really how many children that i was at school with were trapped in the

closet or felt like wrestling or daily with that struggle of feeling like they were genuinely born into the wrong body. and i just don't think it was anywhere near as many as are now coming out and now getting involved in those communities. and i just wonder what's really causing that. but your verdict is in. 89% of you agree that children are being indoctrinated, 11% say, course, not. but say, of course, they're not. but coming with tory wets led by coming up with tory wets led by damian green, claiming that leaning far to the right is leaning too far to the right is a turn off for voters is the conservative party abandoning its roots? former education minister and true blue tory dame andrea jenkyns beams in to give a massive middle finger to her party's centrists. but first, with harry and meghan reportedly putting a royal reunion at the top of their christmas list and the king taking on more duties with his grandchildren. well there is plenty of royal action for charlotte griffiths, editor at large for the mail, on sunday to get her teeth stuck into. that's all coming your way. don't you

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radio . radio. >> well, welcome along. my reaction to almost 1 in 5 teachers self censoring for fear of offending muslim pupils . but of offending muslim pupils. but first, in a sign that the royal rift may be thawing a bombshell, new report from the times states that harry and meghan would to love spend christmas with the rest of the royal family at sandringham this year. however the sussexes are yet to be invited. do you think they should be invited ? should there should be invited? should there be another olive branch? should they dare to show their faces? vaiews@gbnews.com but i'm joined now by editor at large at the mail on sunday. it's the wonderful charlotte griffith charlotte is this really a turning point, do you think, in the relationship between harry turning point, do you think, in the meghanhip between harry turning point, do you think, in the meghan and)etween harry turning point, do you think, in the meghan and the een harry turning point, do you think, in the meghan and the restharry turning point, do you think, in the meghan and the rest ofrry turning point, do you think, in the meghan and the rest of the royals? >> well, not really, because they said it themselves in the statement. >> they haven't been invited. and actually it was a classic meghan and harry sort of drip feed of information, wasn't it?

because it actually was a bit of a stab in the side saying, by the way, we haven't been invited. so it's hardly proof . invited. so it's hardly proof. to charles that he can trust these two, not to leak out negative things about the royal family. >> but maybe, maybe we this was a plan for them to say, oh, look, you know, we would come if you did invite us. there's still time. and maybe this is them, you know, offering handout you know, offering the handout and look, we would and saying, hey, look, we would happily out some happily dine out on some sandringham, turkey or pheasants or have. or whatever else they have. >> deigned to show up to >> they deigned to show up to sandringham this i mean , i sandringham this year. i mean, i get the impression they must need more material for their next documentary. but, you know , next documentary. but, you know, isuppose next documentary. but, you know, i suppose they are saying the rift is slowly healing. we would show up, but it would be fantastically complicated for charles because could he really have william and harry in the same room on christmas day? can he trust them not to leak things? can well, you know, can everyone speak freely on christmas day? if harry and meghan are there, it would be quite complicated arrangement. quite a complicated arrangement. so even if might be

so even if they might be available, you say, the available, as you say, in the next weeks so , quite a next six weeks or so, quite a lot moving parts would have lot of moving parts would have to charles to get to be arranged by charles to get them safely and securely in an environment where they won't be sort of fisticuffs at dawn. >> okay. a couple of things. at play >> okay. a couple of things. at play there. first one, do you think that harry and meghan might turn up wearing a wire to sandringham ? sandringham? >> um, i don't think they would do that. but there was that rumour that they did turn up to a royal event wearing a wire once, wasn't there, but that was never proved. i don't think they would now, you know, the netflix documentary has and gone. documentary has been and gone. i don't dare. just don't think they dare. i just don't think they dare. i just don't they dare. don't think they dare. >> okay. all right. and the second of that is that second part of that is that let's charles wants his son let's say charles wants his son there. was there. apparently, charles was going and talk about going to come on and talk about this is, you know, spending more time the grandkids. time with the grandkids. you know, might decide, know, maybe he might decide, look, come on, we've got to have know, maybe he might decide, look, there.)n, we've got to have know, maybe he might decide, look, there. do we've got to have know, maybe he might decide, look, there. do youe got to have know, maybe he might decide, look, there. do you think to have know, maybe he might decide, look, there. do you think it have harry there. do you think it will be william to say, no, i've had dude. had enough of that dude. >> think it would be william. >> i think it would be william. yeah, absolutely. and i think if charles want to see harry

charles did want to see harry and he may well, he may well offer some sort of olive branch on he won't be doing on that front, he won't be doing it at least it on christmas day, at least not it's some sort of not unless it's some sort of carole middleton's turn to host. and william is not going to be there. i honestly think there. i honestly don't think i can william and harry the can see william and harry in the same think william will same room. i think william will put foot and say, you put his foot down and say, you know, can see harry on know, you can see harry on boxing day, you're not boxing day, but you're not seeing him on christmas day. not if want there as well. if you want me there as well. and the future king. so he and he is the future king. so he kind is. and this is the kind of is. and this is the whole problem. he will get the first over. yeah, first invite over. harry yeah, absolutely. he should as well. so >> and so he should as well. so we should you know, you can't go around that, around behaving like that, especially towards your own family, when family, especially when that family, especially when that family the royal family happens to be the royal family and expect for everything to but king to be fine. but look, king charles is reportedly spending to be fine. but look, king charles is thantedly spending to be fine. but look, king charles is than ever spending to be fine. but look, king charles is than ever before ng more time than ever before tom moore castle order moore at windsor castle in order to be to his to be closer to his grandchildren after the prince and of wales moved and princess of wales moved their to windsor their family to the windsor estate think this estate last year. i think this is it's wholesome, it's is lovely. it's wholesome, it's nice. family often nice. the royal family has often at copped a fair bit of at times copped a fair bit of criticism for, know, being criticism for, you know, being part i think, by the way, part of us. i think, by the way, is not uncommon in aristocratic

circles where, you know, the family necessarily always family is not necessarily always as is. you know, as close as it is. you know, around doreen and dave's at around at doreen and dave's at number 42. but is it a sign of how much the king is relishing his and his duties at grandfather? and also this shine also so, look, does this shine another spotlight or maybe the disservice that harry is doing to his own kids here by denying them this opportunity he yeah. >> okay. so to answer that question, i think so, because i think it's quite obvious from pictures that we've seen of charles with his grandchildren over the years. he's incredibly fond of them. and he's actually a real softy and a proper soft grandpa at heart. so i think if only he could get more access to those grandchildren of his on the other side of the atlantic. it would be a lovely thing to see. and i did feel for them when they sort of recorded that video for his 75th birthday. and i thought, god, you know, they hardly know they've hardly know him. they've recorded a video to say, happy birthday, grandpa , they birthday, grandpa, but they can't him. the can't actually see him. and the other thing is that william has spoken before . about how it was

spoken before. about how it was quite difficult to get access to charles. so when charles was about 70, william said, you know, it's actually we'd like him to see more of the grandchildren. but it's quite hard to get hold of him because he's such a workaholic. and i think actually, ironically, even though he's king and his workload has never been higher, i he's getting see i think he's getting to see a little them. and he little bit more of them. and he really to see a bit more really wants to see a bit more of them. and he really wants to nurture the future nurture george as the future king. they're now all king. and also, they're now all sort of gravitating around windsor. the windsor. so, you know, the cambridges, known cambridges, as they were known then, used to always be at amner. charles always at amner. and charles was always at highgrove, now they're all highgrove, but now they're all gravitating around windsor, highgrove, but now they're all gravitatingkidand windsor, highgrove, but now they're all gravitatingkids are windsor, highgrove, but now they're all gravitatingkids are wiischool. so where the kids are at school. so there's actually more opportunity them. there's actually more opp(it's1ity them. there's actually more opp(it's clear them. there's actually more opp(it's clear it them. there's actually more opp(it's clear it always them. there's actually more opp(it's clear it always hasthem. and it's clear it always has been clear that charles actually really to see his really does want to see his grandchildren. and i think he even for even built a playground for george was born at george when he was born at highgrove, which was really sweet. >> oh, that's really sweet. and so you think that there might be a of tutoring going on from a bit of tutoring going on from charles, you know, via via william to george, which william down to george, which

would actually. would make sense, actually. really it would really wouldn't it? and it would be very thing to do be a very, very nice thing to do to of showing the royal to kind of showing the royal ropes and to have that influence to kind of showing the royal r0|his and to have that influence to kind of showing the royal r0|his life to have that influence to kind of showing the royal r0|his life definitely1at influence to kind of showing the royal r0|his life definitely would uence to kind of showing the royal r0|his life definitely would be.:e in his life definitely would be. >> it would have been bred into charles by the queen that absolutely very strong absolutely take a very strong interest in george's life, just as queen took a real as the queen took a real interest in william's life . and, interest in william's life. and, you therein lies the you know, therein lies the problem with william and harry, is that is the you know, is that there is the you know, the always going to get the heir is always going to get a of focus a lot of a lot of focus and a lot of nurturing. i hope louis nurturing. i hope that louis never has this problem with his brother, he's going to brother, but he's going to get undoubtedly more attention from charles anything , charles than than than anything, because charles has to make sure he the monarchy he is the future of the monarchy one in many, many decades one day in many, many decades time. mean, louis already >> yeah, i mean, louis already looks absolutely wild, doesn't he? i love to see i'm he? and i love to see i'm completely utterly here completely and utterly here for it. charlotte, thank it. but charlotte, thank you very, very absolute very, very much. absolute pleasure on. i hope pleasure to have you on. i hope to see again soon. to see you again very soon. that's charlotte griffiths, their at the their editor at large at the mail now, coming up mail on sunday. now, coming up this interesting story, this is an interesting story, this is an interesting story, this emerged that this because it's emerged that almost 1 in 5 teachers are self—censor sharing lessons self—censor, sharing in lessons for muslim for fear of offending muslim pupils are british schools

fuelling de facto blasphemy laws? but not just that. are our police caving in as well? not just that are our politicians caving in? i will get stuck into that just after ten. but next, the tories are at war. the party centrists led by damian green, says they need to abandon the right to appeal to voters . but right to appeal to voters. but do the conservatives actually need a bit more braverman and a bit less? cameron a former education minister, dame andrea jenkins, is having absolutely none of it from the wet. she's live sticking a big middle finger up to some of her

next now, the conservative party risks falling into an unrecoverable position. sounds uncomfortable, doesn't it , with uncomfortable, doesn't it, with voters if it allows itself to be captured by the right . right. captured by the right. right. all right. that's according to moderate tories as well. it's a clear dig, isn't it? the former home secretary, suella braverman, the so—called one

nafion braverman, the so—called one nation group of conservative mps, said it was time for the prime minister to move on from the unhelpful statements some of our party have used . well, the our party have used. well, the group made the intervention as it launched three policy requests for jeremy hunts autumn statement on wednesday. dame anne green, the former de facto deputy prime minister who leads the group, told times radio on sunday that although the party should have a range of views, it should have a range of views, it should never , ever be captured should never, ever be captured by one green wing of it. well, this is prompted a massive backlash from certain people within the conservative party for saying, hang on a minute, despite talking tough on a whole range of issues, the tory party has actually adopted one nation ism every single turn. when ism at every single turn. when have actually really have they actually really adopted properly and been successful in adopting a quote unquote proper right wing policy? maybe they should just own it and stop blaming people on the right and trying to use them as some kind of battering ram to blame all of the problems

with. but tory culture was clear and former education minister dame andrea jenkins joins me now. andrea on now. andrea what's going on here? really i mean, people like you are essentially now being absolutely slammed by the likes of damian green . of damian green. >> oh, it's always happened , though. >> patrick. i remember this one nafion >> patrick. i remember this one nation group, which , um, they nation group, which, um, they make up the majority of the parliamentary party. but these are the ones who didn't want brexit, who didn't want boris, who didn't want liz truss. so so they're not really in tune with they're not really in tune with the british public and i recall, isn't damian green the one who got deselected by his own his own association back in february as well ? as well? >> um, yeah. i mean they're saying that we can't lean too far to the right. i mean, do you think the tory party has leant too far to the right? right. >> i don't think we're going far enough to be honest. patrick and also , i mean, if you look at the

also, i mean, if you look at the group as well, um , i think group as well, um, i think they've never accepted , said liz they've never accepted, said liz and never accepted boris and, and never accepted boris and, andifs and never accepted boris and, and it's about time that we started having policies that was in our manifesto and what speak to people and if you look at 2015 was when i got elected. patrick um , if you think that patrick um, if you think that was cameron who was back in government, which as i said on your show last week, i do like cameron, but, but not for this time and place. but back in 2015, we actually only won six seats off the labour party . and seats off the labour party. and with this all one nation type of , um, of conservatism and to me it's actually belongs in a lib dems. some of these policies. so it was in 2019 we won all these seats off labour, so we need to go more centre right. it's obvious if we want to keep these seats and let's face it is what we got elected on.

>> yeah, i'm just actually genuinely just don't quite understand what he's talking about because if i just wrote back, had , you know, the back, we've had, you know, the fundamental loss of all of our liberties during the coronavirus pandemic. record pandemic. we've had record levels of immigration, both legal and illegal. we've had a story, a story that i'm going to talk about very, very soon, actually, is the genuine fear of offending certain elements of the british muslim community to the british muslim community to the extent where we now have kind of pseudo blasphemy rules in schools, etcetera . and, you in schools, etcetera. and, you know, and the big green stuff as well, i mean, this to me looks almost like damian green has got exactly what he wants from the conservative party and he's still whinging about it completely . completely. >> well, i mean, they clearly want to obliterate the centre right out of the party. that's why they got rid of the previous two leaders. but you're right. i mean, i, i want to stop net zero. i want strong borders. i want the strong policing where in the 80s i used to drag protesters off the streets. so, you know, we want strong

policies and, you know, damian green as i said, i'm sure he got deselected himself . but you can deselected himself. but you can see this happening with other mps or them not actually winning their seat if we if we carry on down this road of well, lib dem ism rather than true conservative ism in my books. >> yeah. i mean, part of this is all wrapped up in things like tax cuts as well. chancellor jeremy hunt due to unveil his is autumn statement on wednesday. you have people you know we used to have people who rabbits out of the hat. who pull rabbits out of the hat. i just can't help but wonder whether or jeremy's rabbit whether or not jeremy's rabbit is dead and just is completely dead and just rotting and he's got myxomatosis and to be and it's just going to be absolutely really absolutely nothing, really isn't it? patrick. it? i know vegetarian patrick. well, i know. i know. i know that. i know that priti patel is very strong all of this as very strong on all of this as well. she's saying, look, come on, behave like a on, it's time to behave like a conservative. mean, would conservative. i mean, what would you to people in your party you say to people in your party who you you are who say, look, you are you are a fringe radical that has captured this party and you're dragging us into the doldrums ? us into the doldrums? >> i say sod off to the lib

dems. we want our party back. we want thatcherism to be at the heart of our party. we want low taxes, as i said, strong on immigration to controlling immigration, strong on policing . immigration, strong on policing. and let's kick start the economy again. and it should be about social mobility as well, patrick, about social mobility . patrick, about social mobility. >> and just just a quick one while i've got you, because i just want to tee up a little topic that i'm doing a bit later on. i think it's quite important really. so we have a new study that's come out that appears to show that almost 1 in 5 teachers are self—censoring because they're offending they're afraid of offending elements the british muslim elements of the british muslim community. hot off the community. it comes hot off the batley incident, batley grammar school incident, a couple of other issues as well . there was one at another school where a child brought in a of the quran and scuffed a copy of the quran and scuffed it, and before you it, it, and then before you know it, his down local mosque his mum's down the local mosque begging forgiveness his mum's down the local mosque begging the rgiveness his mum's down the local mosque begging thergivenechief his mum's down the local mosque begging the rgivenechief and alongside the police chief and alongside the police chief and alongside these are my two neighbouring seats, actually, alongside these are my two neighb

are too afraid of offending certain elements ? do you think certain elements? do you think of the muslim community? of the british muslim community? >> 100. i mean, when the batley schoolteacher, i mean, it was ridiculous that he was having death threats and he's still hasn't gone back to school and he was hiding because he's, you know, is offended . certain know, is offended. certain people in our community, it goes against free speech as well . and against free speech as well. and the surely the whole point is that we should be able to debate topics. and when actually the school teacher, when he um, actually his previous mp tracy brabin at the time i remember , brabin at the time i remember, you know, having a go at her on social media saying when are you going to stand up for that, that poor school teacher? i think it's a sad state of affairs, actually, when our our school teachers being able to teachers fear being able to speak as well. speak out as well. >> but, you know, you know what happens. it, happens. i mean, we saw it, didn't reeves, again, didn't we? rachel reeves, again, i'm to this in the i'm coming on to this in the next hour. but rachel reeves having an absolute shocker on the you know,

the beeb, saying, you know, look, they're not hate marches. suella to call them hate wrong to call them hate marchers. but what we started to see people marching with see is some people marching with a of hate in their hearts a lot of hate in their hearts towards labour mps offices and that's a line. now it's that's crossed a line. now it's starting to look a little bit like maybe the labour party as well. >> didn't you last week as well? >> didn't you last week as well? >> so i felt it. it was terrible. i really felt it. but, but it's, it's almost like a little bit like they are, they only care when it starts only really care when it starts to affect them. and whereas we've living in this to affect them. and whereas we've for living in this to affect them. and whereas we've for ages living in this to affect them. and whereas we've for ages and ing in this to affect them. and whereas we've for ages and being this to affect them. and whereas we'vefor ages and being told to mess for ages and being told to shut up completely and, and this is what i don't like the double standards and just as suella said about double standards in policing, should be across policing, it should be across the board. >> if somebody is committing a crime and if you remember all the leftists keeps saying about these hate crimes, well , we've these hate crimes, well, we've been seeing hate crimes the last week , patrick. we need to see week, patrick. we need to see more arrests . more arrests. >> absolutely. thank you >> absolutely. andrew, thank you very great great to very much. great stuff. great to have the show. is andrea have you on the show. is andrea jenkins there? dame andrea jenkins there? dame andrea jenkins apology. jenkins sorry, apology. i demoted her. right. look, i've got a couple of emails i want to

get to here. vaiews@gbnews.uk tom, much. lot tom, thank you very much. a lot coming in about harry. will he beianed coming in about harry. will he be invited christmas be invited to christmas at sandringham second child syndrome, spoilt. wee syndrome, says jason spoilt. wee boy grow up. meghan has boy needs to grow up. meghan has led down the wrong path led him down the wrong path again a bit mean now. you never know. but maybe. maybe he will get but coming up get an invite. but coming up after weekend of after another weekend of criticism , um, should be criticism, um, should there be an independent review into the bbc's hamas coverage? bbc's israel hamas coverage? former head of religion at the beeb , aqeel ahmed and keith beeb, aqeel ahmed and keith fraser , who's chair of the fraser, who's chair of the israel solidarity movement. they're going to battle it out a little bit later on tonight . little bit later on tonight. important issue that very important issue, i think, especially after we were told that was completely normal that it was completely normal that it was completely normal that might be kalashnikovs that there might be kalashnikovs and explode lives and all of that stuff in a hospital. i mean, all the beeb was lying to us this. but coming us about this. but coming up with that in batley with that teacher in batley remains hiding two years remains in hiding two years after a charlie hebdo after showing a charlie hebdo image mohammed to image of the prophet mohammed to a is it right a bunch of kids. is it right that we are too afraid of certain elements of the british muslim community see an

good evening. this is patrick christys tonight and two years after these scenes in batley where a teacher was hounded out of his job by locals as our teachers , our politicians and teachers, our politicians and our police too afraid of offending certain elements of the muslim community. are we hurtling towards the day where islamic law becomes british law? islamic law becomes british law? ispeak islamic law becomes british law? i speak to a lawyer who represented those offended in the deeply controversial batley grammar school prophet muhammad incident and the bbc is imploding . imploding. >> wherever you go in the middle east, you see an awful lot of kalashnikovs and it's not inconceivable that i don't know, perhaps the security department of a hospital might have them. certainly the police do . certainly the police do. >> oh, absolutely. yeah, completely normal kalashnikovs at a hospital. absolutely fine. bit of c4 over there as well as

that man got a suicide vest on. it's just a&e, isn't it? but the clash sees prominent member of clash sees a prominent member of the community come to the jewish community come to blows ex bbc employee blows with an ex bbc employee over calls for beeb to be over calls for the beeb to be investigated. but don't you dare think about going to bed , think about going to bed, because at 1030 i've got all of tomorrow's front pages for you and the top stories from inside the books as well. fleet street's notorious editor, street's most notorious editor, kelvin , tucks in to kelvin mackenzie, tucks in to the most entertaining paper of you. you will get anywhere on national telly. and that's a promise. ready to get busy promise. and ready to get busy on the sofa. it's my panel. carole benjamin carole malone, benjamin butterworth and belinda de lucy. that's absolutely fantastic stuff. it's patrick christys tonight and it's live . tonight and it's live. well it's about to pop off here, and i want you to be a part of it. gb views at gbviews@gbnews.com. are we being intimidated by radical islamists? that's the question.

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community, not just teachers. i think it's some of the police and politicians as well. i want to say right at the outset that i don't think that any religion should be able to dictate policy or have any undue influence in society. but we have to be real about what's potentially going on here. we saw the batley grammar school incident, didn't we, where a teacher showed a picture of the prophet mohammed to some kids and then to go to some kids and then had to go into hiding , to some kids and then had to go into hiding, still lives under a new identity and isn't teaching what happened was people mobbed up, turned up at the school. gates called for his blood. he feared for his life and he lost his job. feared for his life and he lost hisjob. his feared for his life and he lost his job. his entire feared for his life and he lost hisjob. his entire personal feared for his life and he lost his job. his entire personal and professional was shattered . professional life was shattered. now, new data from yougov and the policy exchange shows over half of teachers polled said they would never use an image of they would never use an image of the islamic prophet in class. 16% of them admitted to having self censored in order to avoid causing religious offence. half of teachers said there would be a risk to their safety if protests similar to the ones which sprung up outside the

school gates in batley occurred and 1 in 5 said there would be a very big risk . and 1 in 5 said there would be a very big risk. then of and 1 in 5 said there would be a very big risk . then of course, very big risk. then of course, there was the incident of an autistic 14 year old boy who brought in a copy of the quran to school. it got scuffed and he was suspended alongside four other pupils . the police were other pupils. the police were brought in and it was treated as a hate incident. the head teacher, the local police and the boys terrified mother had to attend the local mosque and beg for forgiveness as his little clip of the woman in a room full of muslim men pleading with them because because her teenage child was receiving death threats and there were threats to burn their family's home down. >> thank you so much for letting me come here today to speak to you. >> i know that what my son has doneis >> i know that what my son has done is disrespectful . and he done is disrespectful. and he didn't have any malicious intent , but he is a very, very silly 14 year old boy who does have some challenges because he does

suffer with eye functioning autism. it means that socially he doesn't always realise what is appropriate and what's not appropriate . causing offence to appropriate. causing offence to elements of the british muslim community in schools. >> clearly comes with catastrophic consequences and people live in fear of that. is that okay? what about our police force? here's how they handle just stop oil today. force? here's how they handle just stop oil today . you're more just stop oil today. you're more than welcome to carry on your protest if you block the road because disruption you could be arrested under section seven of the public order act . the public order act. >> have have . >> have have. >> have have. >> but if you're at the pro—palestine protest, there appears to be very little chance of you getting lifted. in fact , of you getting lifted. in fact, they just want the public to dob you in. is fear of offending a religious group dictating policing on our streets? and now let's have a little look at our politicians, shall we? are they being influenced by fear of

offending a certain community to rachel reeves had an absolute shocker on bbc at the weekend. >> support the right to protest suella bravermans comments about these being hate marches. et cetera are appalling, but i don't support the intimidation of members of parliament and i think that's what you're seeing with some of these protests now outside of people's offices and outside of people's offices and outside of people's homes and mps have got a difficult job to do. all public servants do and this sort of intimidation and taking protests to people's homes, i think that goes beyond the line . the line. >> so to summarise , as the hate >> so to summarise, as the hate marches aren't hate marches , but marches aren't hate marches, but please come people marching in a hateful manner towards mps offices stop because that's too hateful. labour mps in seats with a huge muslim population felt compelled to go against their party's policy. some of them no doubt will have just wanted anyway . but as did wanted to anyway. but as did a tory mp as well. paul bristow. now if they didn't do that, then people turned up at constituency offices and shouted at them like

those furious scenes that i witnessed outside labour mp rushanara ali constituency office in bethnal green last week is that not intimidation now ? no one religion should be now? no one religion should be able to dictate how our society functions , but as british functions, but as british society changes and the demographic shift, how long is it before british politics, especially british foreign policy, is dictated to by the desires of the british muslim community? i suspect it might not be that long now. some people may say, well, that's just democracy , isn't it? just democracy, isn't it? there's nothing wrong with that . there's nothing wrong with that. and that's fine. i get that . but and that's fine. i get that. but i would politely ask you to play the tape forward and think about what that really looks like in practice. now, before i go to my panel on this, i'm very pleased to say i am joined by the lawyer who acted for some muslim parents at the time of the batley grammar school incident. it's yunus lunat yunus, thank you very much. it's great to have you on the show. so look, do you not think it's a national disgrace that that teacher is still in hiding?

>> evening, patrick. hear me? >> evening, patrick. hear me? >> can i just. >> can i just. >> yeah. thank you for the invite. i did message you today. i i've invited myself on to your programme because you had an uncomfortable experience when you attended parliament with the palestinian demonstrators . and i palestinian demonstrators. and i hope you'll accept my invitation. i'm happy to discuss your concerns and how you were so intimidated . david. and i've so intimidated. david. and i've seen your clip and do accept my invitation , ian, and get me on invitation, ian, and get me on your programme. please >> when asked to come on, i'll tell you, i mean, look, if you want, we can just talk about it right actually, it's not right now. actually, it's not originally what we had. on originally what we had. you on for, but might as well. for, but we might as well. you've raised it so on. yeah you've raised it so go on. yeah i've seen the clip and i can clearly see very, very clearly see you're very, very intimidated simply because people want to speak to people do not want to speak to gb news. >> now, what wanted to say to >> now, what i wanted to say to you do you think i would you is, do you think i would have had a chance of doing what

you did on last saturday at the cenotaph? what would have happened to me or somebody of my ethnicity would have gone to the cenotaph to have a civil conversation with those people that were supposedly standing up for british democracy . for british democracy. >> i don't quite get what your point is there. are you trying to say that maybe if you'd have walked through a crowd of people who were around the cenotaph that you would have faced? something i faced that something like what i faced that too. i i something like what i faced that too ii nobody something like what i faced that too. i i nobody laid a finger on you, but i don't think i'd have come out unscathed as you did. >> all people did was seriously ignore you all people. listen, i'm happy . can i just. i'm happy. can ijust. >> can i just say that's categorically untrue , though, categorically untrue, though, isn't it? all people did was to ignore me. i had a security guard with me on wednesday . yes, guard with me on wednesday. yes, i had a security guard with me on wednesday. okay >> on you. sorry anybody lay a finger on you? >> actually, they did.

>> actually, they did. >> on you? >> on you? >> yes, they did . and you can >> yes, they did. and you can see that in the clip. i'm absolutely amazed that you come on that clip has been seen. one of those clips has been seen almost half million times. almost half a million times. another one of those clips has been another almost been seen another almost half a million times, actually. and i think probably the only think you're probably the only person let flip this person ever. so let me flip this on do you condone the on its head. do you condone the way those people behave to way that those people behave to me? because i'll tell you why they didn't want me to talk to them, they didn't want me to them, why they didn't want me to ask basic questions, it ask basic questions, because it quite clearly would have unearthed the rampant hate and anti that coursing anti semitism that is coursing through the through our society at the moment. to claim moment. and for you to claim that you'd have similar that you'd have got a similar reaction did by going reaction to what i did by going and standing with of and standing with a group of veterans around cenotaph on veterans around the cenotaph on armistice day is wilfully ignorant. >> let me speak to you about hate right ? we have >> let me speak to you about hate right? we have had hate matches. do you condone the way that people behaved? >> to me ? go on, let speak. no, >> to me? go on, let speak. no, i'm asking you a question. do you condone the way that people behave towards me? >> well, i have seen the clip and i haven't seen anybody raise

their voice at you . i've seen their voice at you. i've seen anybody swear at you. are you anybody swear at you. are you anybody ? i haven't seen anybody anybody? i haven't seen anybody raise one of the clips. >> you know, a bloke has got a megaphone shouting in my face as the clip i have seen. >> i'm referring to the clip i have seen. you are referring to a different clip. so what i'm saying is where i'm called fascists scum and a bloke swearing at me and banging a thing my head. thing in my head. >> i really don't . >> i really don't. >> i really don't. >> you've just not seen that because those are the two clips i'm saying to you, patrick, what i'm saying to you, patrick, what i'm to is had i done i'm saying to you is had i done what you did last saturday at 11 am. at the cenotaph , i don't am. at the cenotaph, i don't think i'd have been standing . think i'd have been standing. that's all i'm saying to you. you know, the fact the fact is that you're absolutely wrong about absolutely about >> you're absolutely wrong about that , because they absolutely that, because they absolutely would behaved that way would not have behaved that way to begin with. there is absolutely no way that people would have behaved, sadly, our moral compass as we suddenly find our moral compass. >> when you have 100,000 people

week on week week in, week out, marching for peace , yet when marching for peace, yet when we've had they're not marching for peace, though, are they? >> this is the thing. i mean, does those two things they're in any way , shape or form interrupt any way, shape or form interrupt you look like peaceful marches to you but but you're coming on and you're lying. right. this is the thing. so you're you're coming on national television now and you're lying. we're playing clips over the of playing clips over the top of you now prove you talking now that prove you're right? you can you're lying right? so you can see your own lies now on national television. so you must acknowledge that right ? acknowledge that right? >> you want the civil discussion? happy have discussion? i'm happy to have a civil discussion you if you civil discussion with you if you want to over then want to talk over me, then please guest. please be my guest. >> so do you accept that you're lying? >> we've had race matches before. we've never, as a society, we've never, ever had a debate like we have in now . when debate like we have in now. when the right wingers come and march in our community with the into scent of hatred. but we've never talked about passing legislation on. right? we've i you tell me when have we had a march of

100,000 people in this country and not one person has been intoxicated ? the people that intoxicated? the people that were marching last saturday, i'm on record as saying, gosh, you're just so wrong about this. >> i mean, i really don't understand where you're coming from with this. i mean, i went to march on wednesday. you to that march on wednesday. you could smell it. could could smell it. you could literally smell cannabis. and the the bloke, for the bloke and the bloke, for what worth, bloke who what it's worth, the bloke who was a lot of was actually doing a lot of the shouting at me and bang, you could the booze on his could smell the booze on his breath a off. so breath from a mile off. so you're completely wrong about that. absolutely. that. again absolutely. eunice, i'm with having that. again absolutely. eunice, i'icompletely with having that. again absolutely. eunice, i'icompletely bonkers/ith having a completely bonkers conversation you where conversation with you where you're the mark you're way off the mark about the marches. played clips. the marches. we've played clips. we've i'll get you we've played clips. i'll get you on. get now to talk on. i'll get you on now to talk about what we originally had you on to about. on to talk about. >> let's do that another time. all asked was will you all i asked you was will you accept my invitation? that's what my what i asked you accept my invitation? what i asked you accept my inviyeah. ? i did. >> yeah. and i did. >> yeah. and i did. >> and let's talk about what you've got so far. >> so invitation accepted and batted away. let's have a chat about think about whether or not you think it's still right that a teacher at grammar school who was

at batley grammar school who was at batley grammar school who was at school should at batley grammar school should have hiding have to go into hiding into police protection. his whole family, job over family, and lose his job over what he did. do you think that there concerns there? there are concerns there? >> okay that's not >> all right. okay that's not the premise what was the premise of what i was ianed the premise of what i was invited for, but i'm happy to respond that. respond to that. >> were you invited for? >> what were you invited on for? it's literally exactly what you're seem to you're invited. you seem to be having a bit of an issue with the facts here. >> well, if you don't talk over me, then you'll understand what >> well, if you don't talk over me,where(ou'll understand what >> well, if you don't talk over me,where i'm.l understand what >> well, if you don't talk over me,where i'm coming;tand what >> well, if you don't talk over me,where i'm coming from.what >> well, if you don't talk over me,where i'm coming from.wiwas i'm where i'm coming from. i was sent article in the daily sent an article in the daily telegraph about what is taught in schools, what is taught in religious education. that's what i was taught, invited to speak about. i wasn't told that. i'm not. i'm not. i wasn't told that i was going to be asked about the grammar school the batley grammar school teacher, record. i've teacher, but i'm on record. i've been your program before and been on your program before and i'm a record of saying that that teacher should have teacher should never have been suspended place. suspended in the first place. i'm on record as saying scrutiny is who made the decision to suspend that teacher as an employment lawyer , i would not employment lawyer, i would not have advised that teacher to be

suspended. that's my position . suspended. that's my position. you know, i've been on your program. i've said that before. that teacher should not have been that teacher been suspended. that teacher should been reinstated. and should have been reinstated. and i'm record as saying the i'm on record as saying the people that i spoke to, the people that i spoke to, the people that i represented in the community, badly wanted that teacher to be back in the job. they wanted to sit down and discuss the situation with that teacher and resolve it. but but given given that there were death threats, given that there were death threats, you think were death threats, do you think that that is that is that really that is that is something that the teacher actually comfortable doing ? actually felt comfortable doing? >> not part of the >> is that not part of the problem? you think? and problem? do you not think? and that's that's why i'm asking that's why that's why i'm asking whether think that whether or not you think that the teachers and maybe other people society well feel people in society as well feel as they have to succumb as though they have to succumb or to for fear of or bow down to this for fear of causing offence? or bow down to this for fear of cauthe offence? or bow down to this for fear of cauthe threatse? or bow down to this for fear of cauthe threats came from , um, >> the threats came from, um, the way the whole situation was reported in the media and it was out of control . but my, i come out of control. but my, i come back to what i've said, i do not believe that he should have suspended. i come back, you know, i'm on record of saying

that all right. >> so it was it wasn't so the media, the media whipped up a storm that to led somebody getting threatened with death and not people turning the and not people turning up at the at gates. and what and not people turning up at the at media gates. and what and not people turning up at the at media did. ates. and what the media did. >> if you recall what >> what if you recall what i said at the time to you, what the media did was conflate what happened here with what happened in paris. that is a totally different situation, totally different situation, totally different demographics, totally different demographics, totally different mechanics. >> okay, eunice, we're going to we're going to have to park it there as yunus lunat there, who was a lawyer for people at the time, look to respond to this. now i'm joined by daily express columnist carole malone. i've got journalist and broadcaster benjamin former benjamin butterworth, a former brexit belinda brexit party mep. belinda deluise well. for deluise as well. well, for obvious that overran obvious reasons, that overran slightly go to you, slightly. but i will go to you, carole, and go to matter in carole, and go to the matter in hand which you hand initially, which is you know, that we are know, do you think that we are too risk of offending too much at risk of offending certain aspects of the british muslim community when it comes to can listen to this >> can you listen to this gentleman you understand gentleman here? you understand why are. he why we are where we are. he wasn't listening a word you wasn't listening to a word you were saying. he wasn't interested in what you had to

say what happened say about what happened to you. he what he was only interested in what he believed. he hadn't even seen. the clips that i find astonishing. so ask me a question astonishing. so ask me a quedom you do you think >> do you do you do you think that we're too at risk in society of offending certain groups of people? >> you know, i wonder every >> yes. you know, i wonder every day the whole of the western day why the whole of the western media the political media and all the political and the establishments the arts establishments have decided them there decided between them that there is one particular religion in this country that we cannot inqu this country that we cannot insult or offend, and that is islam. and that is that is a thatis islam. and that is that is a that is a decision that has actually reverberated everywhere. batley thing everywhere. the batley thing that really want to that he didn't really want to talk about, you know, i blame the teachers in that school. i blame the cops. blame the blame the cops. i blame the people the community. you people in the community. you know, minute minute know, the minute that the minute a teacher's life is threatened, that that the people making the threats arrested and threats should be arrested and jailed. well, simple as that . jailed. well, simple as that. >> and they weren't one thing, though, that some though, benjamin, that some people might say look. right people might say is look. right if an opportunity to if there is an opportunity to avoid offence, then avoid causing offence, then you should opportunity. should take that opportunity. and there's a fine and therefore there's a fine line to have between maybe caving in to someone's

sensibilities actually just sensibilities and actually just being polite. >> well, yeah, like should you choose quran in choose to burn the quran in front a mosque? no. should front of a mosque? no. should you that in a school? no. you do that in a school? no. that to inflame that would be seeking to inflame things . that that would be seeking to inflame things. that isn't what things. but that isn't what happenedin things. but that isn't what happened in these examples. and there many examples where there are so many examples where things the existence of gay things like the existence of gay people being taught in schools , people being taught in schools, things which are the law of the land and have been for about ten, 15 years in this country and they think they, the and they think that they, the muslim community, the self—appointed that self—appointed leaders of that community, who, course community, who, of course don't represent believe represent all muslims, believe that a way that they can behave in a way that they can behave in a way that intimidates them and care that intimidates them and i care a great about prejudice and a great deal about prejudice and it of different ways . it cuts lots of different ways. and is a problem in this and there is a problem in this country wing country and among left wing people , of which i am one, there people, of which i am one, there is a problem on the left that we seem to think that this prejudice is too awkward to confront. the fact is, the muslim community in country muslim community in this country clearly has a problem with anti—semitism. we've seen it in the month it is the last month and it is considerably more homophobic than rest of the country at than the rest of the country at large . and we not be large. and we should not be afraid point that out,

afraid to point that out, because i tell you what, the people who are most damaged by that gay muslim kids growing that are gay muslim kids growing up like batley who are up in places like batley who are having lead having their ability to lead their lives denied. their lives be denied. >> well, it's definitely , you >> well, it's definitely, you know, certain certain elements of isn't it? and that's of it, isn't it? and that's that's an issue that is rearing its head. i again, will be at pains say i feel sorry pains to say i feel very sorry for genuinely just just moderate, normal individuals , moderate, normal individuals, you know, and people might point out hard core out and go, well, it's hard core elements the christian elements of the christian community as hard core elements. the community. there are the jewish community. there are orthodox but orthodox or orthodox jews, but it's very orthodox. >> jews have very similar conclusions and behaviours , but conclusions and behaviours, but the difference is that we confront those christians do not issue threats when their issue death threats when their religion is. >> belinda have issue >> belinda we have an issue with islamist intimidation mobs in this country. fact we even saw it with the cineworld having to cancel lady of heaven film cancel their lady of heaven film because of mob intimidation. and they even said they feared for they even said they feared for the public those who the public safety of those who went the film. so they went to see the film. so they cancelled it. is because of cancelled it. this is because of institutional our institutional cowardice in our authorities with our

politicians. they have no backbone to challenge radical islamists and do a huge disservice to the muslim community who are the biggest victim group around the world, by the way, of radical islamism and their punishment and their hateful ideology. look at the iranian you know, it's iranian women. you know, it's not way the left not fair the way the left completely conflate radical islamism with muslims all the time. can't ever time. so that you can't ever criticise her. i'm a christian, but secure my faith. so but i'm secure in my faith. so if someone wants insult or if someone wants to insult or mock my i don't feel mock my religion, i don't feel any hate vengeance any hate or vengeance towards them. wicked and that is them. that is wicked and that is wicked. what is going on? i am so with what's happening so upset with what's happening in government in england that our government have allowed take root and in england that our government havethey're d take root and in england that our government havethey're too take root and in england that our government havethey're too scared not and in england that our government havethey're too scared of and in england that our government havethey're too scared of even now they're too scared of even challenged it because they have no backbone in country. no backbone in this country. >> rotherham this was this >> after rotherham this was this was rotherham happened was never rotherham happened where 1400 girls were abused by mainly pakistani muslim men and we were told this wouldn't happen again. but this happened because the cops were too scared to challenge islam. >> all you thank you very, very much. an extended version of the top of the show. but coming up, i you the most

i bring you the most entertaining and informative press preview anywhere in the country and tonight's country as me and tonight's press all of press pack analyse all of tomorrow's headlines. tomorrow's biggest headlines. but an but first, should there be an independent review into the bbc's israel—hamas coverage? former religion at bbc former head of religion at bbc aqeel and keith fraser, aqeel ahmed and keith fraser, chair of the israel solidarity movement. they battle it out. that's .

divided over rwanda. >> you're listening to gb news radio . radio. >> now the bbc is facing calls for an independent review into their coverage of the israel—hamas war led by their own former head of television. after a litany of on air cockups called their infamous impartiality into question . impartiality into question. danny cohen, director of the bbc television . between 2013 and television. between 2013 and 2015, has joined a growing chorus of voices unhappy with the beeb's recent coverage of the beeb's recent coverage of the conflict , which has forced the conflict, which has forced awkward apologies like these. >> and now an apology from the bbc. >> a bbc news as it covered

initial reports that israeli forces had entered gaza's main hospital . all we said that hospital. all we said that medical teams and arab speakers were being targeted and this was incorrect and misquoted . a incorrect and misquoted. a reuters report, we should have said idf forces included medical teams and arabic speakers for this operation, so we apologise for this error, which fell below our usual editorial standards . our usual editorial standards. >> okay. well, that apology was made on the 15th of november, but just two days later, bbc internal editor jeremy bowen was back at it . back at it. >> wherever you go in the middle east, you see an awful lot of kalashnikovs and it's not inconceivable that, i don't know, perhaps the security department of a hospital might have them. certainly the police do. and so the israelis may get the proof that they want. they found this tunnel entrance, but so far that they haven't . so far that they haven't. >> right. so after repeated controversies in recent weeks, should there be an independent review into the bbc's israel hamas coverage going head to

headin hamas coverage going head to head in a special edition of the clash , i'm delighted to welcome clash, i'm delighted to welcome former head of religion at the bbc, akhil ahmed, and up against the founder and chair of the israel solidary group, keith fraser. shapps thank you very much. great to have you on the show. look, keith, do you think that the beeb should face an investigation? well look, if you go back to 2004, you'll all know about the balen report, which was actually an investigation written by malcolm balen, who was a bbc journalist , and he was a bbc journalist, and he studied hundreds of hours of footage and bbc footage which covered the israeli palestinian conflict. >> and of course , six years >> and of course, six years later , the contents of that later, the contents of that report have never been shown. they have so spent hundreds of thousands of taxpayer money to circumnavigate it. >> yes, circumnavigate the freedom of information act because they know they don't

want to show what's in that report, because i've got to tell you, i don't call it the british broadcasting corporation. >> i call it the biased broadcast corporation. you know, i know some journalists. i know personally that in order to get they actually do documentaries, but to get content commissioned by the bbc, it needs to be balanced against israel . balanced against israel. >> okay. all right. well well, i'll come back to you . i'll come i'll come back to you. i'll come back to you on that. keith all right. there's some quite strong stuff there. so you know, i'll give you the chance to come back on you think that do on this. do you think that do you that the should you think that the bbc should face investigation? face an investigation? >> well, obviously , i'm speaking face an investigation? >>avell, obviously , i'm speaking face an investigation? >>a purely, viously , i'm speaking face an investigation? >>a purely, you sly , i'm speaking face an investigation? >>a purely, you know,m speaking face an investigation? >>a purely, you know, a speaking in a purely, you know, a personal capacity here. i think all broadcasters, all news organisations need to have an investigation at the end of this because i think there's a there's a bigger question here. i danny really well i mean, i know danny really well used work danny, but he used to work with danny, but he has never worked in news, you know, when you're know, and actually when you're in, when you're on ground, i in, when you're on the ground, i

worked in news for years. worked in news for many years. you when the you know, when you're on the ground, things go ground, you know, things go wrong. going to tell you wrong. and i'm going to tell you now, this particular conflict, there's getting around there's no getting around it, not bbc. lots of not just the bbc. lots of broadcasters of broadcasters have made lots of mistakes because think we're mistakes because i think we're actually into a different kind of technological situation here now with social media and disinformation and deepfakes and all sorts of things are going on and basic errors will always get made, particularly when you don't have complete access to locations at all times. it's an absolute mess . so i don't locations at all times. it's an absolute mess. so i don't think the bbc needs to be just investigated. think we need to investigated. i think we need to investigated. i think we need to investigate how this has been covered by absolutely everybody because everybody is making mistakes and what it's showing us is in a social media age that some of the old rules of reporting and some of the ways that we've all worked, all of us, you know, gb news included, they're very, very different now. when you think about the world that we're in now . and i world that we're in now. and i think really hard kind think it's really hard to kind of like, the bbc are being of like, say, the bbc are being bad or channel 4 is being bad or

cnn is being bad. everybody is making cnn is being bad. everybody is ma think, i think i think >> think, yeah, i think i think there's almost to aspects of this me which is the this for me which is the reporting of events on the ground and that is i think, very, very difficult and can be victim to the mistakes . just victim to the mistakes. just just mistakes for whatever reason . but there's the thing reason. but there's the thing that i find quite unforgivable, i think, is very often the reporting of the things that are happening over here. actually reporting of the things that are hap|iening over here. actually reporting of the things that are hap|i thinkover here. actually reporting of the things that are hap|i think especiallyactually reporting of the things that are hap|i think especially the ally reporting of the things that are hap|i think especially the bbc and i think especially the bbc might have might have questions to answer there. i don't know what feel about that, keith . what you feel about that, keith. >> listen, i completely disagree with what your guest just said . with what your guest just said. i know for a fact because i know people who work on the ground in the middle east that the bbc is getting its data from hamas . getting its data from hamas. now, i know that the bbc doesn't call hamas a terrorist organisation , but let's be organisation, but let's be clear, on october the october the 7th, on october the seventh, they raped women. they burnt elderly children . they even elderly children. they even killed people's pet dog. they

even took babies out of the womb of a of a pregnant mother. and this are the people that the bbc are getting their facts from. this is not the british broadcasting corporation. this is the biased broadcasting corporation . and i'll tell you corporation. and i'll tell you what else, patrick. i'm not going to be spending a penny next year on renewing my bbc licence because i see it as a form of execution because groups like the bbc, news outlets like the bbc, they are responsible for spewing the hatred that is making people i'll turn on my community, i.e. the rise in anti—semitism because of the reporting and i blame the bbc as a big part of that. all right, akhil, obviously quite, quite a lot to come back to you there, akhil. >> so i'll throw it over to you mean, look, if we're going to have a sensible conversation, i think that's really ridiculous, right?

>> i got to be honest with you. the fact of the matter is you can argue that there's coverage is for absolutely is not great for absolutely everybody. at the everybody. nobody's happy at the moment, whether whichever side you're not taking any you're on and i'm not taking any sides in any of this kind of thing, saying no one's happy thing, i'm saying no one's happy now where you now with regards to where you get from. get your information from. i don't know. i mean, to say things like it's a fact that they're getting their things from every single from hamas every single broadcast ground. broadcast on the ground. and right israeli friend has right now, my israeli friend has been flat out since been working flat out since october with 4 october the 8th with channel 4 news with cnn, with it, with the times, etcetera. times, newspapers, etcetera. they're same they're all getting the same information the same information from the same sources it sources because that's how it works the ground. the bbc is works on the ground. the bbc is not different from anybody else . not different from anybody else. everybody it from everybody is getting it from whether the un, from the whether it from the un, from the idf, from. yes, from the from people in in gaza, whether it's hamas whatever. you're hamas or whatever. you're getting information from getting lots of information from lots every lots of different people. every single person is doing that because that's how journalism works. when you're on the ground. and that's why i say there will be mistakes because everybody is manipulated doing it because that's what you do when you're trying to get your

message across. the question is how manipulated have the press been and i think we probably all know is of course, we've been manipulated because this some of the some of the people doing this on all sides are very sophisticated . sophisticated. >> look, both of you , >> all right. look, both of you, i would i would really like to invite back on. and i no invite you back on. and i no doubt will get the chance to doubt we will get the chance to going well . and we'll going forward as well. and we'll have a bit a longer have a bit of a longer conversation. but i think was really both really fascinating stuff on both sides was, sides there. that was, of course, a former of course, a former head of religion at the akil ahmed, religion at the bbc, akil ahmed, and that chair as well and that was the chair as well of the israel solidarity group. keith stuff keith fraser very strong stuff on both a bbc on both sides. a bbc spokesperson has previously said our starting point is always impartiality. we take that incredibly seriously . that's why incredibly seriously. that's why we so much effort to get we take so much effort to get our coverage of significance and complex world events right in amongst of amongst thousands of hours of news will news broadcasting. there will always errors. there you always be some errors. there you go. happens. some whoppers, go. it happens. some whoppers, though, haven't and i can though, haven't there? and i can really the strength of really sense the strength of feeling from feeling there, certainly from from the british jewish, british, israeli community. but coming up, fleet street legend

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>> you're listening to gb news radio . well come back. radio. well come back. >> let's bring you tomorrow's news tonight now with the most entertaining paper review you will get anywhere on telly the very first front pages have just been delivered for my press been hand delivered for my press pack, so we've got the metro sunak. pack, so we've got the metro sunak . it's cutting it fine. pm sunak. it's cutting it fine. pm hints at lower taxes as election looms . as he tells voters it's looms. as he tells voters it's finally time to lower the burden. we're going to the independent now. big picture story of nigel farage eating something that probably either came out of an animal or was attached to an animal. apparently people saw his arse tonight, and that's something that now we all have to live with. borisjohnson

that now we all have to live with. boris johnson , though, let with. boris johnson, though, let covid rip through the uk. rishi, just let people die. this is what they're saying is a covid inquiry bombshell. these are the astonishing words of johnson and sunak. we're going to become back to that with you. over to the front page of the daily telegraph. now sunak hopes telegraph. now sunak pins hopes on thatcher tax package. there's a i mean, completely uninspiring picture of him and jeremy hunt both wearing cagoules , doing both wearing cagoules, doing some science given some drilling science given undue weight over economy and covid, says vallance . and covid, says vallance. and mystery of what causes red wine headache solved by scientists . headache solved by scientists. can i just save them a lot of time and say it's too much red wine? we're going to go over to the ai now. sunak's eat out to help out. drove second wave of covid so rishi is copping it there. has it easy the there. farage has it easy in the jungle. on us again, jungle. the joke's on us again, says i. on that. the says the i. more on that. the guardian. the un sounds the alarm as the world on track for hellish three degree. i think that should be rise in temperatures and talking about argentina's new president as well. we're just going to whizz

you over to the mirror. yep. sunak. let people die. there's quite a lot of this . farage is a quite a lot of this. farage is a big jungle turn off. they say as well. well, we'll see about that on the daily mail return of tax cutting tories and the pm says it's cutting tories and the pm says wsfime cutting tories and the pm says it's time to reward hard work . it's time to reward hard work. right. panel, thank you very much for joining right. panel, thank you very much forjoining me again. i'm going to start with the independent. i mean, there is a giant picture of nigel farage eating what i think might be a cow's teat on the front there and then pulling pulling a face. and what do you make of the fact that nigel is doing all of these these challenges, really? i mean, i want to know. >> i'm kind of sorry i'm here tonight as much as i love you, because i want i want to see why everyone his backside everyone else saw his backside tonight. i need to know that. yeah, i think it's the pressing, pressing day. far pressing issue of the day. far more important of nigel farage is yes, is asked back. well, yes, i suspect sense than suspect it makes more sense than what comes out of his face. >> oh, been sitting on that >> oh, he's been sitting on that for while, hasn't he? for a while, hasn't he? >> like there we go. >> like nigel there we go. belinda. know, look. nigel

belinda. you know, look. nigel farage going to his weight farage going to eat his weight in like camel's anus over farage going to eat his weight in next like camel's anus over farage going to eat his weight in next three camel's anus over farage going to eat his weight in next three weeks, anus over farage going to eat his weight in next three weeks, isn't; over farage going to eat his weight in next three weeks, isn't he?r the next three weeks, isn't he? how feel about that? how do you feel about that? >> he is man of duty and >> look, he is a man of duty and honoun >> look, he is a man of duty and honour, and he's also a man of no surrender. think going no surrender. i think he's going to be absolutely to be eating absolutely everything him with no everything they give him with no problem all. problem at all. >> i hope he doesn't. i just >> and i hope he doesn't. ijust hope doesn't scream at hope he doesn't scream at anything because then he's finished. screams, anything because then he's finisigot screams, he's got it. >> well , you know what? >> well, you know what? >> well, you know what? >> george galloway went in big brother, more brother, far more controversially, got controversially, and he got elected oh, elected to parliament. oh, hello, galloway. elected to parliament. oh, hel never galloway. elected to parliament. oh, hel never got galloway. elected to parliament. oh, hel never got over)way. elected to parliament. oh, hel never got over the y. elected to parliament. oh, hel never got over the shock >> never got over the shock that. >> would you to be the cart? >> no, that was the stuff . >> no, that was the stuff. >> no, that was the stuff. >> i mean, he never got over there. >> look, you did celebrity >> oh, look, you did celebrity big and survived. i'm big brother and survived. so i'm sure there's nigel. sure there's hope for nigel. >> actual news >> wasn't the actual news the actual the actual on the actual the actual news on the front the independent is front of the independent is bofis front of the independent is boris let covid ripped through the uk. rishi let people the uk. rishi just let people die. the it's the words die. it's the it's the words coming of, you know, the coming out now of, you know, the whatsapps the emails, whatsapps and the emails, etcetera. in etcetera. the people who were in charge pandemic. does charge during the pandemic. does this or are over it? >> i don't actually believe it because sir patrick vallance, one of the scientists, was was saying this and he said he never

actually heard it. and guess where came from where it came from? it came from dominic cummings, who hates johnson wants to see johnson so much he wants to see the man completely and utterly destroyed. i don't believe it for second. you what for a second. and you know what those vallance and those scientists, vallance and whitty, had us locked those scientists, vallance and whittyto had us locked those scientists, vallance and whittyto this had us locked those scientists, vallance and whittyto this day had us locked those scientists, vallance and whittyto this day if had us locked those scientists, vallance and whittyto this day if they us locked those scientists, vallance and whittyto this day if they hadycked down to this day if they had their way. their policy was zero covid, which was a stupid policy. so i mean, i don't want to hear what someone like patrick vallance has to say. >> there's quite a bit. yeah >> there's quite a bit. yeah >> can i also just say as well, they're to make vallance they're trying to make vallance is make out that boris is trying to make out that boris was and was some bumbling fool and didn't understand the statistics. see statistics. i'd like to see bofisin statistics. i'd like to see boris in a competition of intellect patrick vallance intellect with patrick vallance any fool. any day. boris is not a fool. remember he had just had covid. he nearly died. he was affected in many ways by it. and to suggest that he a fool is suggest that he was a fool is just stupid . just stupid. >> benjamin, you think does >> benjamin, do you think does it a different it mean there's a few different papers today a variation of papers today with a variation of rishi and boris johnson rishi sunak and boris johnson being happy with people dying ? i being happy with people dying? i mean, think that's bit mean, do you think that's a bit unfair or not? >> well, think it shows that >> well, i think it shows that we've ruled politicians we've been ruled by politicians that about that couldn't care less about the they're ruling over.

the people they're ruling over. theidea the people they're ruling over. the idea that they looked at pensioners and thought, well, you them die you may as well let them die because inconvenience because it's less inconvenience than our job properly. than us doing ourjob properly. who i is abhorrent? who said? i think is abhorrent? who said? i think is abhorrent? who wanted to do for who said you wanted to do for old people instead of instead of instead channel migrants instead of channel migrants but you to for the you coming out to bat for the pensioners now, are you? i don't think should killed by a think they should be killed by a useless government. and this is what and were what rishi and boris were thinking. no is what dominic. >> belinda now belinda. okay. >> belinda now belinda. okay. >> the average of death >> the average age of death from covid 83 and it was covid was 83 and it was a horrific death. i'm sure, for many. and my heart goes out to everyone. but to shut down a country in the humane way the scientists did, especially over things funerals and it was things like funerals and it was something really inhumane about the scientists. and i'm actually glad that was a little bit glad that there was a little bit of pragmatism . of pragmatism. >> we haven't got to where we've got. i'm sorry, but can i just got. i'm sorry, but can ijust stick with you very quickly? because you hardly heard from you there on the front of the telegraph sunak pins hopes on thatcher tax package. pm's aiming premiership aiming to revitalise premiership series in up series of tax cuts in the run up to the next election. too little, late. yeah. little, too late. yeah.

>> just regurgitating vague >> and just regurgitating vague promises and no one's really impressed. bright ideas. we impressed. no bright ideas. we needed an aggressive growth package just it's package and i just think it's disappointment after disappointment after disappointment rishi. disappointment with rishi. and of should taxes. of course he should cut taxes. but i the tories for but i blame the tories for wasting so much our wasting so much money that our taxes put up in the taxes had to be put up in the first place. >> a lot of waste and not least a massive wasted majority as well. i mean, that was that was, a massive wasted majority as vllhink mean, that was that was, a massive wasted majority as vllhink them, that was that was, a massive wasted majority as vllhink the ideaiat was that was, a massive wasted majority as vllhink the idea thatas that was, a massive wasted majority as vllhink the idea that cutting was, i think the idea that cutting inheritance tax their big sell. >> you know, you now will have to for you to get anything to die for you to get anything out this tory government. out of this tory government. it's a great slogan on the it's not a great slogan on the on the. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> i mean ijust think >> yeah. >> i mean i just think they should be doing now. not in should be doing it now. not in the spring, which it's the spring, which is when it's too because it looks a too late because it looks like a bribe electorate for the election. >> all right, we're off to a flyer with the old press pack. thank you much. coming up thank you very much. coming up with royal family, be within with the royal family, be within their not invite harry their rights to not invite harry and christmas at and meghan to christmas at sandringham. we obviously are going debate as well as sandringham. we obviously are gcrown debate as well as sandringham. we obviously are gcrown tonight'sas well as sandringham. we obviously are gcrown tonight's greatest as i crown tonight's greatest britain jackass but britain and union jackass but first fleet street legend former editor kelvin editor of the sun, kelvin mackenzie. he's live the mackenzie. he's live in the studio. top studio. more of tomorrow's top stories. lord cameron has stories. and lord cameron has weighed on government's

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let's get stuck into more of tomorrow's front pages. as fleet street legend and former editor of the sun, it's kelvin mccoy , of the sun, it's kelvin mccoy, anz. kelvin, thank you very, very much . shall we start with very much. shall we start with the sun? i think we should have seen a good enough place to start. putin has tried to kill me five times. it's a world exclusive with zelenskyy opening up sun report . reporter up to the sun report. reporter there's also a little bit there. looks nasty. nigel as nigel eats what i can only imagine is a piece of goat appendage or something . i mean, you'll take something. i mean, you'll take on, on that, on that front page as we see. well it surprises me that it's five times, that it's only five times, frankly . that it's only five times, frarily . that it's only five times, frari mean, putin is a is >> i mean, putin is a is a natural born killer. and he crosses the world to kill people who have done very little to him

. zelenskyy has made him look a bloody idiot. right. meant that that he can't leave his own country . he right. he can't country. he right. he can't leave russia for fear of being killed. >> he couldn't even go. he couldn't even go down to south africa. >> right. he thought he'd be killed there. he would get killed there. he would get killed anywhere. putin so i, i zelenskyy is a hero beyond heroes . he is zelenskyy is a hero beyond heroes. he is fighting every day for what we believe in right ? for what we believe in right? oh, by the way, that the labour politicians of batley don't believe him. by the way, that was a good piece that a guy i know really well is a friend of that batley teacher. that guy's life has been destroyed and not one labour politician in a socialist area said one thing in his favour and by the way, neither did any conservative cabinet minister. what what an opportunity for a conservative say we will support that. we are not going to allow that kind of thing to go on. why do they never , ever what is wrong with never, ever what is wrong with our country ? ever, ever? well,

our country? ever, ever? well, what is the fear? what is the fear? >> it's the fear of ending up like that batley teacher . it's like that batley teacher. it's the fear of ending up being attacked on the street. you can't be. >> if we had the governments, whether they're socialist or conservative, basically saying, you do we're not you can't do that. we're not going allow it. yeah, come going to allow it. yeah, come on, if nobody speaks on, come on. if nobody speaks for him, how many other teachers 7 for him, how many other teachers ? there was a piece today. 1 in 5 teachers are scared. all right . right. of saying anything. >> all right . no, . right. of saying anything. >> all right. no, no. . right. of saying anything. >> all right . no, no. well, . right. of saying anything. >> all right. no, no. well, i'm just going to get you on on a on another story because we've done another story because we've done a fair bit of that tonight. but lord cameron, your favourite. yeah. threatened to get tough on european judges if european human rights judges if they tried to thwart the uk government's the government's rwanda plan. the foreign to foreign secretary moved to reassure tory mps, foreign secretary moved to reassure and tory mps, foreign secretary moved to reassureand stressed mps, foreign secretary moved to reassure and stressed the s, anxious and stressed the importance ahead with importance of pushing ahead with rishi new plan. it's rishi sunak's new plan. it's going to get tough on foreign judges. is dave. >> no, couldn't get tough on >> no, he couldn't get tough on anything. was hopeless, right anything. he was hopeless, right ? he said to the he said to the nation, said to the nation, well , back the tremendous , back me. i'm the tremendous david oh, we're going , back me. i'm the tremendous davof oh, we're going , back me. i'm the tremendous davof europe. oh, we're going , back me. i'm the tremendous davof europe. what we're going , back me. i'm the tremendous davof europe. what was; going , back me. i'm the tremendous davof europe. what was that?g out of europe. what was that? sunderland are somewhat. oh, my

god. oh i'm out of a job. right. he in straight he threw his hand in straight away. he is absolutely the kind of liberal conservative politician , ian, that your politician, ian, that your viewers and most of the country no longer believe. nobody believes that rishi is going to cut taxes. nobody believes he's going to get tough with the judges. nobody believes this government because they never, ever , ever follow through. so ever, ever follow through. so look, i want to cut my taxes . i look, i want to cut my taxes. i want him to cut an i. i want him to cut inheritance tax. i want him to cut as many taxes as he likes. but we can't do it. careful rishi. there's no way that we can do it carefully. the the guy has lost it. he's lost the umbilical cord to the to. i think , ordinary thinking people. think, ordinary thinking people. well something wrong with him. well, there we go. >> covid. i mean, it's incredibly strong stuff. short but sweet but much appreciated nonetheless. i be seeing nonetheless. i will be seeing you kelvin you very, very soon. kelvin mackenzie. okay, it mackenzie. that right? okay, it isfime mackenzie. that right? okay, it is time now to reveal today's greatest britain and union jackass okay, carol, i will

start with you for our greatest britain. i believe that we can just rattle through that in just a second. now carol, go on a royal family for telling harry and meghan they will not be welcome at sandringham this christmas is the brass neck of the couple. >> apparently, there have been the couple. >> abombing, there have been the couple. >> abombing thezre have been the couple. >> abombing the royal/e been the couple. >> abombing the royal family to love bombing the royal family to get why? because get an invite. why? because they're stateside they're currency stateside has gone toilet and they're gone down the toilet and they're not much money as not earning as much money as they be. that's what they want to be. that's what it's all about. >> benjamin my greatest britons are emily are tom harwood and emily carver, who launched good afternoon britain today. >> co—host star on >> emily was my co—host star on the saturday five, so she's left us weekdays. and i'm sure us for weekdays. and i'm sure they're do a great job. they're going to do a great job. >> belinda, my >> okay. all right. belinda, my greatest britons. >> it's the met police for doing their job. >> it's the met police for doing theirjob. yes, brilliantly. their job. yes, brilliantly. today they swiftly removed the just stop oil nuisance protesters in the van. son off. they want great, stellar job. more of that, please. met police. >> well done. >> well done. >> right. well i know which side my bread is buttered so i'm obviously going to say today is greatest. britain is tom harwood

and emily carver. yes. there we go . fantastic. just like to go. fantastic. just like to stress that when i said i know which side my bread is buttered, i was very much talking about which side my bread is buttered, i was \there uch talking about which side my bread is buttered, i was \there tom :alking about which side my bread is buttered, i was \there tom hasng about which side my bread is buttered, i was \there tom has neveryut which side my bread is buttered, i was \there tom has never and emily. there tom has never and will never get a look in right. okay, carol, very quickly, is he indian right. indian jackass? right. >> the bbc africa editor mary >> is the bbc africa editor mary harper . she >> is the bbc africa editor mary harper. she was told she was told by a judge she's the one who tried to keep the somalian gang this country. him gang rapist in this country. him and three of his mates raped a 16 year girl, put prison 16 year old girl, put prison here. they people on a plane stopped him being deported. he's now there, however shocking the bbc yet again, another mark of shame for them. this woman tried to getting deported, to stop him getting deported, saying would be hurt if he saying he would be hurt if he went back to his own country. well, woman he raped might well, the woman he raped might think that a good thing. think that was a good thing. >> grief. yeah. strong. all right, benjamin. >> grief. yeah. strong. all rigimine njamin. >> grief. yeah. strong. all rigimine reluctantly, is sadiq >> mine reluctantly, is sadiq khan party khan and also the green party councillor, these councillor, nate higgins. these people at a £2 billion people stop at a £2 billion sphere like the las vegas sphere being in london. they being built in london. they blocked it today, and i think that's tragedy for our that's a tragedy for our investment in london. >> i actually completely agree.

>> i actually completely agree. >> belinda labour mp rachel reeves saying at the weekend reeves was saying at the weekend that it's only now these pro—palestinian protests have crossed they're crossed the line because they're targeting and intimidating labour mps in their offices, not before, not on the 8th of october onwards when they were making no areas for and making no go areas forjews and filled with anti—semitism and radical islam. >> rachel reeves , is >> well, rachel reeves, is today's union jackass. look, thank you very much. it's been an incredibly lively show. wonderful panel. well done, you. and thank you to everybody who's been and listening . been watching and listening. i'll you tomorrow i'll see you tomorrow at nine. hello again. a window of fine weather to come over the next 24 hours. that is once any further showers have eased overnight. a lot of cloud continuing at first, but then clearing skies are arriving from the north and northwest as a ridge of high pressure builds in from the northwest. >> but still, we've got low pressure close by. that's continuing to bring some cloud and some rain or showers, especially across eastern parts of the country. >> eastern scotland seeing those showers into eastern showers push into eastern england overnight. a lot of low cloud associated with these

showers as well. showers showers as well. some showers continuing across and west continuing across north and west wales, southwest wales, parts of southwest england these will england as well. but these will ease. so for many, it's turning dner ease. so for many, it's turning drier and clearer. overnight. >> northern ireland >> scotland and northern ireland seeing by dawn with —2 seeing a frost by dawn with —2 to —4 celsius in some sheltered spots . but that's where we'll spots. but that's where we'll have the brightest of the skies. first thing, scotland and northern plenty of northern ireland plenty of fine weather through morning. weather through the morning. elsewhere a lot of cloud, especially east anglia in the south, where there will some south, where there will be some mist fog first thing with mist and fog first thing with some rain continuing some showery rain continuing into afternoon, celsius into the afternoon, 12 celsius here. crisp autumn sunshine here. but crisp autumn sunshine elsewhere, 8 to 10 degrees generally . generally. >> however, for parts of scotland it turns cloudier later and that's ahead of some wet and windy weather sweeping in for wednesday , say that rain wednesday, say that rain affecting predominantly scotland. >> but there'll be some dribs and drabs of rain for northern ireland, northern england as well. further south, a largely dry day on wednesday with increasingly . cloudy and breezy increasingly. cloudy and breezy weather later , rain sinking weather later, rain sinking south on thursday, followed by colder conditions by

fri day friday >> hi there. very good evening to you, aaron armstrong here with your latest news headlines. let's bring you up to date with what's been happening at the covid inquiry today. rishi sunak argued against a second lockdown dunng argued against a second lockdown during pandemic and both he during the pandemic and both he and boris johnson were in favour of letting coronavirus spread even though people would die at the inquiry. diary entries from former chief scientific officer sir patrick vallance revealed how boris johnson wanted to let the disease rip, while his most senior adviser, dominic cummings, suggested rishi sunak then chancellor thought it was okay to let people die. downing street says the prime minister will set out his position when he gives evidence to the inquiry in further revelations, sir patrick described boris johnson as weak and indecisive , lviv and as weak and indecisive, lviv and clearly bamboozled by scientific detail . detail. >> certainly when i left a

meeting i would be i