>> good afternoon. welcome to the show . the show. >> i'm martin is 3 pm. i'm keeping you company for the next three hours loads on today's show. top story can only be net migrant nightmare for the government as it rockets through 672,000 turned into the uk. is this the end of the tories.7 is it the final coffin nail.7 well, i'll put that to sir john redwood in about 15 minutes time next story. energy price, misery yesterday, some good news from the chancellor. >> a 2% national insurance. >> a 2% national insurance. >> but today ofgem cranking up their energy rates to an average of £1,928 a year. >> if you put your heating on yet. my kids are in scarves and hats. >> and finally , a shock surprise >> and finally, a shock surprise election victory for geert

wilders in the netherlands, a guy renowned for his hard line policies on islam and immigration. what could this mean for britain .7 mean for britain? >> and a lot of my old eurosceptic mep friends are very excited about the fact that on the manifest no pledge of builders is a campaign to leave the european union for the netherlands. >> so i'm asking will nexit be the next brexit? all that coming up in the next hour. the next brexit? all that coming up in the next hour . so what do up in the next hour. so what do you make of these, frankly, shocking figures today? >> 672 net thousand to the uk. we've got a terrible problem with student visas, with dependence , with work visas. is dependence, with work visas. is it over for the tories? i'll put that to john redwood soon and let us know as well about what it means in holland. would you like to see the netherlands leaving the european union? >> all of that in the >> all of that coming up in the next hour. >> but first is your news headunes >> but first is your news headlines as headlines with tamsin roberts as

. martin. >> thanks very much. good afternoon from the gb newsroom. it's 3:01 for 13 hostages held by hamas are due to be released from gaza as a ceasefire with the terror group is to begin tomorrow . a spokesperson from tomorrow. a spokesperson from the qatar foreign ministry said the qatar foreign ministry said the first group of civilians will be released at 4:00. >> the beginning of the pause will be 7 am. friday, the 24th of november, and it will last, of november, and it will last, of course, as agreed for four days and the first patch of civilians to be released from gaza will be around 4 pm. of the same day . the same day. >> they will be 13in number. all women and children . and those women and children. and those hostages who are from the same families will be put together within the same patch . within the same patch. >> a qatari foreign ministry spokesperson confirming those details there. meanwhile, the foreign secretary has met with israeli prime minister benjamin

netanyahu on a visit to the country. lord cameron said he wanted to see for himself the community is affected by last month's hamas attacks and he hopes all those involved in the truce deal will make it happen . truce deal will make it happen. at least five people, including three children, have been taken to hospital following a suspect attempted stabbing incident in dubun attempted stabbing incident in dublin city centre this afternoon . reports say emergency afternoon. reports say emergency services are at the scene where it appears a number of children may have been attacked on parnell square east. the area has now been sealed off and declared a crime scene. more on this story shortly. downing street says more measures could be introduced to kerb net migration . it comes as new migration. it comes as new figures showed that legal immigration to the uk hit a new record of 745,000in the year to december. our most estimates suggest immigration is now slowing, while the number of people leaving the uk is going up , the government says it's up, the government says it's working to reduce overall

numbers. but labour leader sir keir starmer says the figure is shockingly high, represents a failure not just of immigration but also of asylum and of the economy. >> because within that figure there is a huge increase in work visas, which shows the government hasn't done what it needs to do on skills within that number, there are a rising number of asylum seekers and disclosure that the hotel bills are going up and up. so this is are going up and up. so this is a failure . the immigration a failure. the immigration asylum and the economy and of course it's taxpayers who are picking up the bill. >> the business secretary says there was a fear in some communities that efforts to encourage people to get the covid vaccine was part of a government conspiracy . speaking government conspiracy. speaking to the covid inquiry, kemi badenoch said some people thought talk of the disproportionate impact the virus had on minorities was actually an attempt to cull the population . she said she became population. she said she became concerned that the government's efforts to keep people informed of the risks were backfiring , of the risks were backfiring, with some people deterred from

getting vaccinated . the timing getting vaccinated. the timing of the next general election had no impact on the decision to cut taxes, according to the chancellor, jeremy hunt used the autumn statement yesterday to announce cuts to national insurance . they'll save someone insurance. they'll save someone earning £35,000, more than £450 a year. labour says that crumbling public services and the rising cost of living mean that people don't feel better off. but the chancellor says the government's plan is working. but the measures that i've taken today are, what, more than 200 businesses wrote to me to ask for the big business organisations like the cbi said it was the single most transformative thing that i could do. >> they're not particularly proud pleasers. they're not the tax cuts that are on the tip of everyone's tongues like an income tax cut or inheritance tax. but they are the things that will make the biggest difference our long term difference to our long term competitiveness . competitiveness. >> well, despite those tax cuts,

energy bills are expected to rise after the energy regulator announced a 5% increase to the price cap from january. the average household will pay around £94 more over the course of a year . around £94 more over the course of a year. ofgem around £94 more over the course of a year . ofgem says the of a year. ofgem says the increase is mostly driven by market instability and global events, including the war in ukraine. a euro sceptic could be on track to become the next prime minister of the netherlands. geert wilders is leading talks to form a coalition government after his freedom party caused upset last night. the right wing populist has stoked tensions with promises to freeze immigration and slash payments to the eu. but despite his euro scepticism, he'll have to work with pro—eu parties if he's to form government . this is gb news government. this is gb news across the uk on tv in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news now it's back to . martin

news now it's back to. martin and thank you tamsin. >> now we start with the story that we broke a few minutes ago. five people, including three young children, been taken young children, have been taken to hospital following a suspected stabbing incident in dubun suspected stabbing incident in dublin city centre this afternoon. i'm joined now by homeland security mark white. mark, do we know any more details? can you give us the outline of what's happened? >> yeah, this happened just after east after 2:00. parnell square east with reports of a stabbing incident in that area. we've just had a statement through from garda, the irish police . a from garda, the irish police. a spokesperson has said five of casualties have been taken to various hospitals in the dublin region. the casualty , these region. the casualty, these include an adult male , an adult include an adult male, an adult female and three young children . female and three young children. it goes on to say, one child, a girl, has sustained serious injuries . the other two children injuries. the other two children are being treated for less serious injuries. are being treated for less serious injuries . an garda serious injuries. an garda

sochna, a is in contact with the parents of all three injured children. they always put that kind of information out there because you're going to understandably have a lot of worried parents. we know there's a girls school in that general area where this incident happened, but we don't know if the incident is connected to the girls school in any way . the incident is connected to the girls school in any way. but that area of central dublin has been sealed off as you would imagine. all three emergency services are there. the police at this early stage have not given any kind of indication as to what this incident was sparked from, whether there is any wider risk to the public. there are reports in the irish media that the alleged assailant may be among those injured and we don't know how that individual sustained their injuries. if they are indeed amongst those that have been taken to hospital . but a very taken to hospital. but a very worrying and serious situation unfolding in dublin. >> there's no details at all yet

of the perpetrator or motives that will all come out in the fullness of time. >> no, of course, any time you hear about a multiple stabbing, then everybody has got to be concerned about terrorism simply because you hear about multiple stabbings , vehicle borne attacks stabbings, vehicle borne attacks , that kind of thing. is the sort of modus operandi of a lot of these terrorists, especially lone wolf terrorists these days. there is nothing to suggest at this stage anyway, that it has a link to terrorism or whether it has a link to criminality. we just don't know. we'd only be speculating . but of course, speculating. but of course, across europe at the moment, especially with what is happening in in israel, then there is heightened a heightened sense of concern and alert really amongst the police and security services in all of the all the countries in western europe and indeed in the us as

well. but we have to just once again stress that no indication of a terrorist motivation at all, just just the very worrying news that it is, it seems a multiple stabbing that three children have been injured, one a girl seriously injured, an aduu a girl seriously injured, an adult female and an adult male also injured . also injured. >> okay. very alarming story. thanks for that update. and of course, we'll be right across that throughout show. that throughout the show. so stick get more stick around. we'll get more details . and have them, details. and as we have them, we'll them course, we'll pass them on, of course, to now to the next story, to to you now to the next story, to soaring net migration figures. it net migration has it turns out net migration has actually gone down to 672,000, but only because the figure for the previous year has been revised to show that net migration actually hit a record level last year of 745,000. it's but rishi sunak under renewed pressure from his party as tory mps are demanding action from ministers to bring down those stubborn numbers. well, i'm still joined by mark white in the studio. mark astonishing

numbers when we look into the data . what's driving this? well data. what's driving this? well al, what's driving it mainly is student visas. >> a very significant number of student visas that have come across that have been granted in the year to june, 378,000 student visas that were granted, up 58,000 on the same period. the year before, and drilling into that even further, 96,000 of the 378,000 were granted to the dependents of these students as well. that's something that the government is clamping down on.and the government is clamping down on. and from january of next yean on. and from january of next year, there will be a it will be much tougher to bring dependents across for students. i should say the home office as well, drilling even further into their own data set that they've produced today show that they've

given 154,000 visas to depend lots of students and the reason there's that sort of despair , there's that sort of despair, pretty between their figures and the office for national statistics is these are visas that have been granted, but people haven't yet arrived. they may well arrive in the coming months and it seems to predominant countries in terms of those that are taking their dependents here to the uk, that is nigeria to and india and i have to say, there are seasoned watchers of migration flows in and out of this country who have been concerned for some time about the way in which the student visa system is being gamed by some people that they're using it as an easy route into the country and taking the likes of their dependents over as well. that's why you've got the government acting to ensure that the number of dependents coming across is vastly reduced . vastly reduced. >> and there's another really

alarming figure in that student data, and that is those numbers who are actually returning home after their course expires has gone down rapidly. so now only 35% of the student visas actually go back to their original country versus 61% in 2019. so we've got dependency problem. we've got student problem, and we've got a right to remain in the country. problem so the student visas, everyone goes on about small bows, but actual fact, they come in through the front door and the government and the universities are rolling out the red carpet and it's one of the reasons why we got the revision in the figures that were so startling today, not the 672,000 net migration figure , which in net migration figure, which in itself is shocking when you compare that to the pledge of david cameron when he was elected in 2010. >> and he said along with his then home secretary, theresa may, that they were determined to get net migration down below the tens into the tens of thousands.

the tens into the tens of thousands . and look at it now, thousands. and look at it now, 672,000, not that figure, but the revised figure for the year before then , which was 745,000. before then, which was 745,000. and the reason in part of the reason is, as you say, the likes of students who have complete charted their course, who are due to return to their home countries and they're staying. >> and another thing as well is the low skilled labour issue or the low skilled labour issue or the skilled labour issue , the skilled labour issue, something of course the tories hope to address by increasing the salary threshold to 30 grand from 26 grand. but we're seeing a huge number of those going up. as you said , plus a dependence as you said, plus a dependence issue. we're being hit on issue. so we're being hit on several fronts here, aren't we? students going through roof, students going through the roof, skilled labour going through the roof, problem . and roof, a dependent problem. and also interesting point also a really interesting point to show that we're not a heartless nation . we have heartless nation. we have fulfilled our humanitarian obligations, the humanitarian visas have gone down because, of course , we've largely dealt with course, we've largely dealt with the ukraine issue and the hong

kong issue. so this is a nation which is being welcoming , but which is being welcoming, but maybe is being maybe a hospitality is being abused. >> it's going down. there >> yes, it's going down. there are still some coming from ukraine, hong kong and from other areas. and on the humanitarian visas, i think it's down to about 80 odd thousand. so, yes, it's definitely coming down. in terms of work visas, well, that's gone up . to 120,320 well, that's gone up. to 120,320 2000, which is . up 87,000, 2000, which is. up 87,000, 50,000 of those are actually dependents as well . and a large dependents as well. and a large number of the 322,000 total is actually this emergency visa scheme for workers to come and work in the nhs and social care and what labourers are yvette cooper the shadow home secretary is pointing out is that this actually shows a manifest failure on the part of the government to train and recruit people from the united kingdom to do these much needed jobs

within the nhs and social care. >> and interestingly, i think a lot of conservative voters would concur with that point of view. this isn't a political point of view. if we have a skill shortage, we should be addressing domestically or addressing it domestically or investing money that we're investing the money that we're spending train spending in this to train british people up to do these spending in this to train britizrather3le up to do these spending in this to train britizrather than) to do these spending in this to train britizrather than dependthese spending in this to train britizrather than depend on;e spending in this to train britizrather than depend on cheap jobs rather than depend on cheap foreign labour unless yes, that's what the government wants, unless that's what the nhs wants, unless that's what big business wants, is something going on here behind the scenes? do you think that actually this is legal, this is through the front door and it's being encouraged ? encouraged? >> well, i certainly think it's true to say that the focus as far as the government has been is concerned, has been on the small boats. yeah crossing the much smaller by comparison. this is tiny . absolutely tiny in is tiny. absolutely tiny in comparison to net migration. now the government says today that it is absolutely committed and under stands and realises that a

net migration figure of 772,000, let alone . the 745,000 for the let alone. the 745,000 for the year before , is unsustainable year before, is unsustainable and not at all desirable because of the strains that clearly all these extra people are putting on the infrastructure, the wraparound services that anyone coming to this country requires accommodation in the health service ices that they will call upon public transport, education an all of the above that council is local health trusts all say they are struggling incredibly hard to meet the demand of a growing population and they say there just is not the investment out to really meet the population growth , which as we population growth, which as we say, is the size of a city, is a city the size of liverpool every single year , it seems. single year, it seems. >> it's astonishing. mark and migrationwatch have said if they look ahead and if this carries on until 2046, we will need to

build 18 new birmingham , 18 build 18 new birmingham, 18 cities the size of birmingham to cope with this. mark white excellent analysis as ever. thank you very much . moving on, thank you very much. moving on, labour leader, sir keir starmer says the soaring level of legal migration shows government migration shows the government are relying immigration are relying on immigration to supplement underskilled workforces . workforces. >> that figure is shockingly high and okay, let's cross now to westminster and speak with our political editor, christopher hope. >> chris, it never rains, but it pours for the conservatives it seems every time they have a positive message to put out, be it the autumn statement or inflation down next week. the news is quickly sunk by either small boats, rwanda or this time net migration figures . this is net migration figures. this is calamitous for the conservatives , isn't it ? , isn't it? >> well, it's really bad . i >> well, it's really bad. i mean, to be fair to the government, they're both the supreme court ruling and today's ons figures are out of their hands. ons figures are out of their hands . they're independent. the

hands. they're independent. the judiciary, is judiciary, the ons is independent of government. the timing the ons choice, not timing is the ons choice, not the government. so there's no question the government would not put out not have chosen today to put out these these migration these these net migration figures . they are very, very figures. they are very, very high as mark says, 1.2 million people arriving here net in the two years to june 2023. and that figure could be revised upwards as the figure for the calendar year 2022 was. so we'll wait and see how that one ends up. this is not where the government's meant politics. the meant to be in politics. the government came in, the tories meant to be in politics. the govetheirnt came in, the tories meant to be in politics. the govetheir election in, the tories meant to be in politics. the govetheir election in the tories meant to be in politics. the govetheir election in 2019,ories won their election in 2019, pledging , won their election in 2019, pledging, pledging to bring down net migration well, going net migration. well, it's going up. three more than up. it's three times more than it in 2019. there are it was in 2019. there are factors, of course, as mark says, as hong kong . there's says, as hong kong. there's ukraine, there's humanitarian corridors, of course, which are appropriately being used. but the big issue is why is the government allowing this many net migrants here? net migrants to arrive here? because, small boats because, of course, small boats is not controllable or hard is not controllable or is hard to me, to to control. forgive me, hard to control , but and they're working control, but and they're working hard that's low. hard to control it. that's low. tens of thousands. this is hundreds of thousands of people

arriving through the front door, allowed by this government on their watch . it's causing real their watch. it's causing real concern on the right of the party. earlier i spoke to danny kruger, who's the chairman of the new conservative group, and also john hayes, who's also sir john hayes, who's chairman of the common sense group tory mps. is group of tory mps. this is a significant cohort of right wing tories, and this is this is interviews an indication , interviews are an indication, ian, of the fury privately behind closed doors. let's let's see what have to say. see what they have to say. >> our manifesto pledged that >> as our manifesto pledged that we bring numbers down. we would bring numbers down. we've treble in the we've seen them treble in the last years. it's totally last four years. it's totally unacceptable if we're to look the voters the eye at the the voters in the eye at the election next year. we've to election next year. we've got to deliver the deliver on that promise. and the idea that we should have had net migration of 1.3 million over two years is unsustainable . two years is unsustainable. unacceptable. and frankly, the pubuc unacceptable. and frankly, the public won't wear it any longer. >> the public won't wear it any longer. that's sir john >> the public won't wear it any longer. that's sirjohn hayes, the last speaker there from the common sense group that's around 60 mp5, common sense group that's around 60 mps, the first person 60 tory mps, the first person there, kruger , about 20 there, danny kruger, about 20 tory mps. it's a significant

number of tory mps are increasing cross and frustrated are letters going in tonight from the common sense group to rishi sunak. prime minister rishi sunak. the prime minister urging a grip. i mean urging him to get a grip. i mean , yvette cooper is right. as you were people would were saying, many people would agree even agree with yvette cooper. even the with the tories might agree with yvette can't yvette cooper. why can't brits do are we do these jobs? why are we importing labour when many importing labour when so many people sitting on benefits? importing labour when so many pe0|governmentg on benefits? importing labour when so many pe0|government gets benefits? importing labour when so many pe0|government gets that, its? importing labour when so many pe0|government gets that, but the government gets that, but the pace of dealing with it is far too for many and far too slow for many people and time out before the time is running out before the next think next election. i think for the tory party >> well, hope, the new >> well, chris hope, the new conservative movement today conservative movement of today said do or die for the said this is do or die for the conservatives and it has to be said, if you look at the conservative message board today, the daily telegraph, the express, the mail, there's huge, huge exasperation from conservative voters. and they really feel, a lot of them that the figures out today, chris, are what they are calling the final nail in the coffin for this conservative government >> well, that's right. i mean, there might be more figures coming out in a year's time on the eve general election, the eve of a general election, don't that's don't forget. but yeah, that's totally right. many people who

voted for brexit back in 2016 was all about controlling our borders and the idea of leaving the union allow the european union was to allow our to be controlled our borders to be controlled better. so you don't have this so arriving , 1.2 so many people arriving, 1.2 million people arriving here in two years. everyone knows there's a shortage in housing. everyone knows how stressed pubuc everyone knows how stressed public services are. certainly in the south east of england. and for this, many people to arrive, it's hard to cope with. and that's part of the problem. and that's part of the problem. and whether that's understood by by government, i'm not sure they say the figures are big, say the figures are too big, too great the briefings they've great in the briefings they've given us today. but what are they about it? there's given us today. but what are they 13 about it? there's given us today. but what are they 13 years out it? there's given us today. but what are they 13 years of: it? there's given us today. but what are they 13 years of this there's given us today. but what are they 13 years of this torye's been 13 years of this tory government and they have failed to problem because to grip this problem because david cameron in he david cameron said in 2010 he wanted to tens of wanted to get down to tens of thousands. are, miles thousands. well, we are, miles away from that. that's a big away from that. and that's a big political for the tory political problem for the tory party . party. >> okay, thank you, chris. hope for that update. bleak outlook there. joined now by there. well, we're joined now by there. well, we're joined now by the mp, sirjohn the conservative mp, sir john redwood. thank you very much, john, for joining redwood. thank you very much, john, forjoining us. sirjohn on it's always a on the show, it's always a pleasure to speak to you. these

figures migration can figures on net migration can make for sobering reading . new make for sobering reading. new conservatives saying do or conservatives saying it's do or die time the conservatives . die time for the conservatives. how would you react to that ? how would you react to that? >> well, i think these figures are very bad. we are inviting far too many people in and it will be extremely expensive and we're not able to provide the good housing and the good facilities they need . in 2016, facilities they need. in 2016, the eu said to its member states, those that wouldn't take enough of the migrants coming into the eu that they should pay about ,250,000 for each migrant. they didn't want to take to those states that took them . those states that took them. that was their estimate then of the costs . it will be dearer. the costs. it will be dearer. now, are we going to get now, where are we going to get all the decent housing from? where are the extra school places ? whereabouts where are the extra school plaithe ? whereabouts where are the extra school plaithe hospitals ? whereabouts where are the extra school plaithe hospitals going ilhereabouts where are the extra school plaithe hospitals going toereabouts where are the extra school plaithe hospitals going to comeuts are the hospitals going to come from? because half £1 billion to build a hospital, you need to build a hospital, you need to build couple of new hospitals build a couple of new hospitals every costs what, every year. it costs what, a quarter of a million or so to build a social housing unit for a person or a family. where are we going to get all those from?

they've be realistic. so they've got to be realistic. so i the government , don't i say to the government, don't give permits for people give so many permits for people to come here to work and don't give so many permits for the families of students . families of students. >> yeah. and sirjohn, i think you've hit the nail on the head. certainly there's certainly we've there's a massive problem students in massive problem with students in these . i mean, the these figures. i mean, the numbers stark. 300, 378,000 numbers are stark. 300, 378,000 visas granted, up 58,000, including almost 100,000 dependents. and furthermore 65% of those visas stay in the country after their course has terminated . do you think there's terminated. do you think there's a problem we have with universities becoming, in a sense, a kind of legalised way in through the front door and then people just stay forever with their families and it's placing a huge, huge strain on british public services. and we have a university problem . have a university problem. >> yes. >> yes. >> and i think the government has got the powers to change that. the universities can offer services for those that can get legal grants, but i really don't

think we should let so many people in with dependents because of the huge costs and because of the huge costs and because you want them to have a good experience of britain. and it's just creating so much crowding. and we are way behind on building the homes and the hospitals and the school places we need in the areas under pressure. >> pressure. >> but then, sirjohn, pressure. >> but then, sir john, we pressure. >> but then, sirjohn, we have >> but then, sir john, we have this other issue with universities, and that is because they ostensibly became a business the blair years . and business in the blair years. and as as tuition fees came in as soon as tuition fees came in and we all know that overseas students pay more and therefore the universities court them and actively encouraged them to come and so long as that system is in place, this is no more than a legalised front to get people from nigeria, people from india into the country with their dependents, with their family, and then they don't leave . and then they don't leave. >> i think that's going >> well, i think that's going a bit far in how you describe it. i think as long as they're offering legitimate courses that is which is what universities do, which is what universities do, which is governments have to is why governments have to decide is in the decide whether that is in the national whether national interest or whether there are other outweighing social and costs. but social problems and costs. but you also need to get the

government tackle many government to tackle how many people coming do low people are coming in to do low wage jobs. it may well be for good the employers because it's a low wage member of staff rather than paying a bit more to get somebody who already get somebody who is already settled very settled here. but it's very expensive for the taxpayer because taxpayer who because it's the taxpayer who has the capital to has to provide the capital to provide the additional housing and to provide the extra school places. it's 20 zero zero £0 places. and it's 20 zero zero £0 or so a pot to provide a school place with a primary or place with with a new primary or secondary it's secondary school. and it's hundreds of millions to provide a new hospital. and if you invite in half a million or more a year, you need a lot of schools and hospitals to make provision them . provision for them. >> and sirjohn porter, the >> and sir john porter, the issue, of course, is who do we get to staff hospitals ? get to staff those hospitals? and the low and we've seen today the low skilled labour, the skilled labour visas, a huge amount of them are workers for the nhs and i think we can all agree, whatever your political stripes, if we those vacancies if we need those vacancies filled, surely the sensible solution, the common sense solution, the common sense solution that's best for britain is to train our own nurses and

our own doctors rather than brain draining the best talent away from places like india. so what can we do to address that issue ? issue? >> well, agreed. and the government is now saying it's addressing that issue and it obviously takes a bit of time to train on the expertise of a fully trained nurse or doctor. but it isn't so difficult to train people in other supporting roles, and those are the ones where we're getting a lot of people in that we could replace by paying a decent rate of pay to somebody to do it locally. but also you need many more nurses and doctors and care workers . if you keep inviting in workers. if you keep inviting in so many extra people into the country. what i'm country. that's what i'm pointing chasing pointing out. you're chasing your own with this system your own tail with this system because if you have another million people here, you need an awful care workers and awful lot more care workers and doctors and teachers doctors and nurses and teachers in order to provide for them . in order to provide for them. >> and sir john, in order to provide for them. >> and sirjohn, some some crumbs of comfort in today's data. humanitarian visas are 9% down, and that's largely

because, of course, the uk was very welcoming and very humane in its treatment of refugees fleeing ukraine and also hong kong.so fleeing ukraine and also hong kong. so some good news on that front, at least . well let's hope front, at least. well let's hope that means we've done our decent thing and there aren't so many people needing our help. >> but they are a very small minority . the two really big minority. the two really big categories of people coming in to do low paid work and the people coming in as students with dependents and they are the ones government needs ones that the government needs to urgent . and we're to address urgent. and we're still people in still getting extra people in from the eu, although i seem to remember before brexit were remember before brexit we were told that everybody would flee and we'd have opposite and we'd have have the opposite problem not enough people. so problem of not enough people. so john redwood, it's always a pleasure. >> thanks for joining pleasure. >> thanks forjoining us. and i love the way you just slipped in brexit at the end. i'd no brexit at the end. i'd expect no less. joining here less. thanks forjoining us here on always on gb news. it's always a pleasure. start with pleasure. okay, we start with the story that we broke a few minutes that five minutes ago and that is five people know we're on. people know we're moving on. yesterday 1 in 4 yesterday i told you that 1 in 4 adults struggled pay adults have struggled to pay their bills the past their energy bills in the past three i'm afraid

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sunday mornings from 930 on. gb news. >> welcome back. it's 332. well, let's get more now on this afternoon's big breaking news story. five people, including three young children, have been taken to hospital following a suspected stabbing incident in

dubun suspected stabbing incident in dublin city centre this afternoon. i'm joined again now by our home and security editor mark white, who's got some more information. mark, what's the latest? just heard latest? yeah we just heard the latest? yeah we just heard the latest that have come latest pictures that have come in from dublin. >> for our viewers on gb news >> so for our viewers on gb news television , they can see the television, they can see the scene which is in parnell square, east in the northern sector of the city centre there , sector of the city centre there, sealed off with ambulances , sealed off with ambulances, paramedic vehicles, buses that are parked up there . no, you are parked up there. no, you know, no vehicles are going anywhere around there at the moment as the emergency services deal with the aftermath of this incident, we've just had a statement from ireland's justice minister, helen mcentee, who has described the incident in dublin city centre as an appalling attack on three innocent children and a woman. now she doesn't say terrorist attack, but she says an appalling attack

on three innocent children and a woman. and what we're told from gardai and shikona , the dublin gardai and shikona, the dublin police is that five people in total have been injured . a total have been injured. a woman, three children. one of the children in a young girl is reported to be in a serious condition in hospital and a man has been injured as well . now, has been injured as well. now, there are reports in some of the irish media that an alleged suspect was injured. so whether this man that has been injured is the alleged suspect, i don't know. we're drawing that inference from it at this point. of course, there is always concern with a multiple stabbing attack like this that it could be linked to terror. well, we've heard the justice minister describe it as an attack, but nothing from the irish police as to what the motivation for this apparent attack was at this stage. but those are the first pictures in giving a real

indication of the very significant emergency service response to this unfolding incident in dublin city centre. >> and there are no more specific details yet, mark, around the perpetrator, the sex of the perpetrator, anything at all? >> no , but, you know, there is >> no, but, you know, there is a man that is seen on some of the social media video that's doing the rounds , lying face up on the the rounds, lying face up on the pavement . looks to me to be pavement. looks to me to be a man in his 50s, maybe late 50s. no more detail than that. he seemed to be bleeding from the mouth . i couldn't see any other mouth. i couldn't see any other injuries on him. whether that's a suspect or not, i don't know . a suspect or not, i don't know. i don't know about the ethnicity ehhen i don't know about the ethnicity either, to be honest. it was difficult to tell from from those images. but we do know that this incident happened just not far from a girls school in the area . but the police in

the area. but the police in dubun the area. but the police in dublin confirming that all of the families connected to these individuals that have been injured have been informed . and injured have been informed. and so all the families have been informed at this stage. but clearly very, very worrying. the fact that three young girls have been injured and one of them appears to have been seriously injured. >> okay. harrowing story, mark white, thanks for that. and of course, bring you all the course, we'll bring you all the latest in the show as fresh details . mark white, details emerge. mark white, thank you very much for that update . well, okay. more now on update. well, okay. more now on the news that net migration to the news that net migration to the uk has gone up again on the figure for the 12 months of june 2023 was 672,000. but of course, illegal migration is also a huge problem for the government. let's speak now to our south—east of england. reporter ray addison, who's in dover. so, ray, it never rains, but it pours for the government . and pours for the government. and we've had terrible figures on legal migration. what's the latest on the illegal migration

figures down there in dover ? figures down there in dover? >> well, it's the keir starmer says these latest figures show a real failure of the government's asylum policy. they announced today that in the 12 months to september of this year, around 45,000 people entered the country through irregular means. translation illegal means. and of that . number, 37,500 or 83% of that. number, 37,500 or 83% made the journey via a small boat and the vast majority of them would have set off from france and ended up here being picked up and making their way to dover. now, of the number of small boats , we've got that small boats, we've got that figure, 787 boats arrived. that's actually down. it's down by 34% on the previous period . by 34% on the previous period. but the number of people in the boats has actually increased . boats has actually increased. now, it used to be an average of 37. that's now gone up to 48,

although gb news understands and has observed a number of the recent arrivals of the boats , recent arrivals of the boats, and we can reveal that the average we think, is more like 60. and we expect that when the next set of figures is announced in what, three months time, that figure will be much more like that in the 60s in terms of nationalities and who's coming over here? 88% of those who arrive by small boat are males, men and boys . and one quarter of men and boys. and one quarter of the arrivals. so around 9000 were afghans fans. and that's followed by iranians and then iraqis . they make up the top iraqis. they make up the top three nationality as we had previously seen, a large number of albanian nationals making their way by small boat to the united kingdom. that's now dropped because of that deal, that prisoner transfer agreement with albania just simply not worth them coming over here

because they're just going to then get sent back. and i think there's actually currently around waiting to be around 53 that are waiting to be transported. and in terms of other nationalities, people from turkey, eritrea and syria as well. now of course, many of those who arrive through the illegal routes, irregular routes , will then make an asylum claim and that is a very slow process. and we know that since 2018, some 74% of all of those who arrived through irregular routes and then made asylum claims are still waiting. 74% are still waiting to find out the result of their asylum claim. since . of their asylum claim. since. 2018, however, those who do receive a decision , 65% have receive a decision, 65% have been granted refugee status so far . far. >> okay, ray allison, thank you for that update on those just just mind boggling figures there from dover docks. thank you very much. it looks a bit nippy

there. go and get a nice hot cup of tea. okay. i'm joined now in the former ukip leader of tea. okay. i'm joined now in the bolton former ukip leader of tea. okay. i'm joined now in the bolton and|er ukip leader of tea. okay. i'm joined now in the bolton and obekip leader of tea. okay. i'm joined now in the bolton and obe henryider of tea. okay. i'm joined now in the bolton and obe henry .er of tea. okay. i'm joined now in the bolton and obe henry . we henry bolton and obe henry. we obsess with small boats, rightly so. a lot of people are very concerned because something tangible, something we can see, something that's so, so blatant, unfair, but actually today's figures, the legal migration through the front door , so to through the front door, so to speak, that's the real issue. mind boggling numbers . 672,000 mind boggling numbers. 672,000 and the big leap out story for me . henry done if you concur, is me. henry done if you concur, is the student visas. it's absolutely out of control record figures on students and on student dependents. >> now you know, for the life of me , i cannot see the me, i cannot see the justification as to why a student who comes to this country needs to bring a family member with them . member with them. >> you know, that's exploiting the system. >> and we've got to surely look at what is driving this, because ihave at what is driving this, because i have more than a suspicion that we've had this explosion over the last years, 15 years or

so, of universal cities. and they are feeding off this this immigration they are making. it's a commercial enterprise. this isn't about educating the british people. >> this is about businesses in the form of universal, his sponsoring people to come over as students and their dependents. >> and of course, then it's government policy that is allowing them to remain both the dependents and the students in many cases, beyond the period of study. >> so it is this is a money spinner. this is a money maker. and also, if you look at care homes and care staff, because that's a large proportion of the low skilled workers who are coming , well, why we coming across, well, why are we not as nation on paying our not as a nation on paying our care home staff sufficient salaries in sufficiently good conditions, as you would expect in any other area of work to be able to attract british staff? yes. and the agency staff coming in that are being brought in through the immigration system

on on low skilled visas, are in fact, very rarely trained in how to do the medication, how to look after and care for these people. and you know, again, it is a money making machine for these these agencies . so these these these agencies. so if i may, martin, before you come up with another point on the numbers, because as i hear so often well, you know , these so often well, you know, these people, they contribute to society . well, first of all, the society. well, first of all, the ons has now put the kibosh on that that idea. but even if that's the case, these numbers over the last two years total slightly more more than twice the size of the city of bristol, bristol has 65 gp surgeries, six hospitals, four specialist clinics, 13 police stations, 141 care homes, 132 primary schools and 50 secondary schools. now we need we need double in the penod need we need double in the period of time in the last 24, 24 months, we should to have matched the infrastructure to the increase in people. we

should have built twice of all of that, trained the staff for 180, 282 care homes and so on for 100 secondary schools of course that's impossible. this quite simply is not sustainable. and it's been allowed by conservative government that stood on a manifesto of reducing net immigration. the british people have been lied to by a party that, quite frankly , is party that, quite frankly, is now centrist, rather than conservative. >> now in defence of those coming over on student visas that they would say that they pay a that they would say that they pay a lot of money to come here because a because of course they pay a premium in terms of the tuition fees versus british student. fees versus a british student. and historically the debate went, come here, learn went, they come here, they learn , they job and they pay , they get a job and they pay taxes contribute. and taxes and they contribute. and that's can that's great. and everyone can agree but agree that's a good thing. but one that's leapt one alarming figure that's leapt out is that the out today, henry, is that the number people who home number of people who go home after a course has after completing a course has plummeted. so historically, it was 61% in 2019 went back to their host country, the biggest

net countries coming in being nigeria and india. but net countries coming in being nigeria and india . but now it's nigeria and india. but now it's plummeted . down 65% remain here. plummeted. down 65% remain here. so there's a concern of overstay. and if there if they're trained, if they're well—educated, if they're paying tax, no problem. but with their dependence, 96,000, we have a huge issue here. >> we do . and we've got the >> we do. and we've got the infrastructure issues. we've got the policy issues . we've got the the policy issues. we've got the cultural issues, because there is no program of integrating people from from elsewhere. the eu nationals that that figure has gone, gone down. but now we're looking at people from other parts of the world and which we expected after brexit. we did expect there to be a shift in that that balance with fewer eu nationals. but there is no effort to integrate these people into our society . so not people into our society. so not only are you challenging the challenging the infrastructure, not only are you challenging the

sheer efficacy of the commercial skewing that this does in in care work and education and so on, but you're also challenging culture. so the society's ability to deal with that shall i interject? >> what would you say to people who said, well, we need people, we need we need 322,000 people on skilled labour visas because brits simply don't want to do the work. they don't want to be care workers. they don't want to be nurse ers, they don't want to do jobs. do those low paid jobs. therefore them. that's therefore we need them. that's what of this would therefore we need them. that's wha'what's of this would therefore we need them. that's wha'what's your of this would therefore we need them. that's wha'what's your response ould therefore we need them. that's wha'what's your response to .d that? >> two fold, martin? one is in most countries in the world, if you study to be a nurse , for you study to be a nurse, for example, you do not need to pay for it. your state will pay for it. so, for example, if you come from the philippines, the philippines state, will the state of the philippines will pay state of the philippines will pay for your training . but here pay for your training. but here you have to pay. so you end up with a student loan. and so we've got to address how we train these people. nought point one. but point two is we touched

one. but point two is we touched on this already. it is a money making machine for the agencies that bring people across. so a care worker, a carer agency, for example, would be paid more per hour per person that it provides than they will pay to than a british care worker gets, or that they will pass on to their agency worker . so that they will pass on to their agency worker. so and that they will pass on to their agency worker . so and therefore, agency worker. so and therefore, you can see that that agency is making money. and yet we've got a government that is prepared to, if you like, fund that through county councils and so on. indirect only rather than invest that money in providing the conditions and the salaries for british staff to do those jobs. >> so what can be done about all of this? i mean, we seem to have this conversation every year. >> it seems to frustrating, >> it seems to be frustrating, seems the wrong seems to be going in the wrong direction, is upwards direction, and that is upwards for people . for many people. >> do? we have this >> what can we do? we have this conversation >> what can we do? we have this con\a �*sation >> what can we do? we have this con\a broken record. like a broken record. >> is . martin i like a broken record. >> is. martin i have to >> it is. martin i have to believe and i do believe that

this is a matter of will and ability. either the government that doesn't care or the government doesn't have the ability to manage the process and drive the machinery of government to do what it wants. okay. and either way, we're in a as a country, seriously in a bad place, and labour won't be any better either. we've got a problem with our political class and we. >> bolton obe, thank you very much this much for joining us on this topic . okay. as dust settles topic. okay. as the dust settles on statement , the big on the autumn statement, the big question it help question is would it help the tories election? tories win the next election? well we've gone to a red wall seat to find out. i'm martin daubney on news britain's seat to find out. i'm martin daubrchannel news britain's seat to find out. i'm martin daubrchannel . news britain's

michael portillo gb news britain's news channel . britain's news channel. >> welcome back. 352 you're watching or listening to me? martin daubney on gb news a 4:00 ibnng martin daubney on gb news a 4:00 i bring you full details of today's net migration figures which have hit a record high. well, yesterday i told you that 1 in 4 adults have struggled to pay 1 in 4 adults have struggled to pay their energy bills in the last three months, and there's more bad news today. last three months, and there's more bad news today . the average more bad news today. the average household energy bill will rise by £94 a year from january at the energy regulator ofgem increased its price cap in response to rising wholesale prices. well join me now in the studio is gb news economics and business editor liam halligan with on the money . so liam with on the money. so liam

yesterday we had we had some good news it lasted all of 24 hours and here we go again. get ready for a price hike on your gas and lucky. >> that's right. so ofgem , the >> that's right. so ofgem, the energy regulator it puts a cap not on the bill that you pay. it puts a cap on the unit cost of combined gas and electricity trust me on this. and then the numbers i'm going to show you are the numbers. if you are an average user household, so you use the average amount, the median amount of any household across the uk. let's have a look at some of the numbers and our gb news radio listeners can keep their ears peeled. if you keep your ears peeled and eyes peeled ears go. so ears open. there you go. so between october and december , so between october and december, so in the period we currently are, the ofgem energy price cap is £1,834 a year. in other words, the unit cost is capped. so the average use household pays . average use household pays. £1,834 for their combined gas and electricity in one year from in january. that's going up from

january to march to £1,928 a yeah january to march to £1,928 a year. so that's announced today. it's coming in in january. year. so that's announced today. it's coming in in january . and it's coming in in january. and there is your £94 annual rise in there is your £94 annual rise in the combined utility bill of your average household . and your average household. and crucially, martin, off jim doesn't cap standing charges , doesn't cap standing charges, though. and i know from lots of gb news viewers and listeners who have written to me, both householders and businesses , householders and businesses, that standing charges the price you that standing charges the price you pay that standing charges the price you pay every month just to be connected for the privilege of being connected , even if your being connected, even if your house has connected 100 house has been connected for 100 years, there spiralling in some cases. so some providers are getting around the ofgem energy price cap by charging really, really high standing charges because that bit of the price isn't regulated. because that bit of the price isn'andiulated. because that bit of the price isn'and alsoed. because that bit of the price isn'and also there's more bad >> and also there's more bad news. the office of office of budget responsibility today , budget responsibility today, they are saying forget about the 2% cut. what's going to happen by being dragged into the things you've been talking about for weeks? and that's the elastic tax bands were getting dragged

into. well, more than obliterate that in fact to equivalent to that in fact to be equivalent to about a 10% in ni . so about a 10% rise in ni. so yesterday it seemed like a lot of smoke and mirrors. >> well, i don't want to break my arm patting myself on the back. indeed, you know back. martin or indeed, you know , the whole gb news team. i thought our coverage yesterday was on the money, to coin a phrase. we were very early onto this reality that as literally as jeremy hunt sat down, tom harwood, emily carver and i had a conversation ocean, in which we said these national insurance tax reductions will be more than offset big time by the fact that tax thresholds remain frozen until 2028. now it turns out the fine print of the obrs technical documents proves that i've got the numbers off the top of my head. the numbers off the top of my head . so between now and 2028, head. so between now and 2028, the fact that the personal tax rate is frozen at 12.5 grand and the higher rate of tax is frozen , frozen at 37 odd grand, and the additional rate of tax, the

45% is 125 grand. more and more people will be dragged into paying people will be dragged into paying tax 4 million more people will pay tax that don't currently pay tax even though they earn an income . and then they earn an income. and then 3 million more people who are on bafic million more people who are on basic rate taxpayers, 20% will go basic rate taxpayers, 20% will 9° up basic rate taxpayers, 20% will go up to 40% tax because years of frozen fiscal thresholds. so here are the numbers. the lower national insurance for employees from 12 to 10% will save us in tax. about £10 billion in total between now and 2028. but the frozen tax thresholds from now until 2028 will cost us £44 billion. so for every pound we're saving on tax, we're losing four to the exchequer in higher tax because of those frozen fiscal thresholds. that is fiscal drag. that is why it is fiscal drag. that is why it is the ultimate sneaky stealth tax. >> that's almost like , yeah, >> that's almost like, yeah, they put a pound in the pot and take a fiver out your back

pocket. >> there you go. there you go. >> there you go. there you go. >> thank much for that. >> thank you very much for that. awesome and thank you awesome statement and thank you for it down. for nailing it down. >> be gloomy than wrong. >> halligan . superb as >> liam halligan. superb as even >> liam halligan. superb as ever. thank you. on the money now, reminder of this afternoon's breaking news. five people, including three young children, been to children, have been taken to hospital after injured in hospital after being injured in a suspected knife attack in dubun a suspected knife attack in dublin . and we'll have full dublin. and we'll have full update on that story throughout the afternoon . mike white is all the afternoon. mike white is all over that very harrowing scenes, but we'll have all of the latest on that. i'm martin daubney on gb news and we are britain's news channel

good afternoon. welcome to gb news. it's 4 pm. you're joining me martin daubney. i'm here for the next two hours to keep you company. coming up on today's show, they'll latest on the they'll have the latest on the doubung they'll have the latest on the doubling stabbing incident at five stabbed, including five people stabbed, including three schoolchildren near to a school in dublin. mark white, our homeland security editor, will have all of the latest on this breaking story next. net migration figures out today a bumper 672 net thousand and coming to the uk, including record amounts of student visas, dependents and skilled workers . dependents and skilled workers. we'll ask, is this the final nail in the coffin for the conservative party? and energy price misery? yesterday, the chancellor gave us a few hundred quid through ni. today it's been taken away as ofgem scraps its

price cap, which means. taken away as ofgem scraps its price cap, which means . £1,928 price cap, which means. £1,928 per year for the average household. the good lord giveth , household. the good lord giveth, the good lord taketh away. i say , buy an electric blanket. that's all coming up in the next hour. that's all coming up in the next hour . yeah, that's all coming up in the next hour. yeah, we'll have all the latest on that dramatic incident in dublin , the stabbing. let us in dublin, the stabbing. let us know what you think as well about net migration figures out today. about net migration figures out today . they're through roof. today. they're through the roof. has government finally lost has the government finally lost control? vaiews@gbnews.com. all of that's coming in the next houn of that's coming in the next hour. but first, here's your news headlines with theo chikomba . chikomba. >> good afternoon. it's 4:01. i'm theo theo chikomba in the newsroom . ireland's justice newsroom. ireland's justice minister has described a suspected stabbing in dublin as an appalling attack on three innocent children and a woman. >> taoiseach leo varadkar says

police have detained a suspect following the incident in the city centre and that his thoughts and prayers are with the victims and their families . the victims and their families. >> the deputy premier thanked emergency services who responded so quickly. five people have been taken to hospital. emergency services are at the crime scene on parnell square, east. 13 hostages held by hamas are due to be released from gaza as a temporary ceasefire with the terror group is to begin tomorrow . a spokesperson from tomorrow. a spokesperson from the qatar foreign ministry said the qatar foreign ministry said the first group of civilians will be released at 4:00. the beginning of the pause will be 7 am. for friday, the 24th of november, and it will last, of course, as agreed for four days. >> and the first patch of civilians to , uh, to be released civilians to, uh, to be released from gaza will be around 4 pm. of the same day . they will be of the same day. they will be 13in number. all women and

children . and those hostages who children. and those hostages who are from the same families will be put together within the same patch . patch. >> meanwhile, the foreign secretary has met with israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu , who on a visit to the netanyahu, who on a visit to the country . lord cameron said he country. lord cameron said he wanted to see for himself the communities affected by last month's hamas attacks, and he hopes all those involved in the truce deal will make it happen . truce deal will make it happen. downing street says more measures could be introduced to kerb net migration . it comes as kerb net migration. it comes as new figures showed that legal migration to the uk hit a new record of 745,000 in the year to december. most estimates suggest immigration is now slowing, while the number of people leaving the uk is going up, the government says it's working to reduce overall numbers. but labour leader sir keir starmer says the figure is shockingly high, represents a failure not

just of immigration but also of asylum and of the economy . asylum and of the economy. >> because within that figure there is a huge increase in work visas, which shows the government hasn't done what it needs to do on skills within that number, a rising number of asylum seekers and the disclosure that the hotel bills are going up and up. so this is are going up and up. so this is a failure. immigration asylum and the economy. and of course it's taxpayers who are picking up the bill. >> the business secretary says there was a fear in some communities that efforts to encourage people to get the covid vaccine was part of a government conspiracy . speaking government conspiracy. speaking at the covid inquiry, kemi badenoch said some people thought the talk of disproportionate impact that the virus had on minorities was actually an attempt to cull the population. she said that she became concerned that the government's efforts to keep people informed of the risks were backfiring with some people deterred from getting vaccinated . the timing of the next

election had no impact on the decision to cut taxes , according decision to cut taxes, according to the chancellor, jeremy hunt used the autumn statement yesterday to announce cuts to national insurance. they will save someone earning £35,000, more than £450 a year. labour says that crumbling public services and the rising cost of living mean that people don't feel better off. but the chancellor says the government's plan is working . plan is working. >> but the measures that i've taken today are what? more than 200 businesses wrote to me to ask for the big business organisations like the cbi . i organisations like the cbi. i said it was the single most transformative thing that i could do. they're not particularly crowd pleasers. they're not the tax cuts that are on the tip of everyone's tongues, like an income tax cut or inheritance tax. but they are the things that will make the biggest difference to our long term competitiveness . term competitiveness. >> despite those tax cuts,

energy bills are expected to rise after the energy regulator announced a 5% increase to the price cap from january. the average household will now pay around £94 more over the course of a year. ofgem says the increase is mostly driven by market instability and global events, including the war in ukraine. a euro sceptic could be on track to become the next prime minister of the netherlands . geert wilders is a netherlands. geert wilders is a leading talks to form a coalition government after his freedom party caused upset last night. the right wing populist has stoked tensions with promises to freeze immigration and slash payments to the eu . and slash payments to the eu. but despite his euro scepticism , but despite his euro scepticism, he will have to work with pro—eu parties if he's to form a government . this is gb news government. this is gb news across the uk on tv in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb

news. now back to . martin thank news. now back to. martin thank you, theo. >> now we start with this afternoon's big breaking news story. five people, including three young children, have been taken hospital following a taken to hospital following a suspected incident in suspected stabbing incident in dubun suspected stabbing incident in dublin city centre this afternoon. and i'm joined again in the studio by our homeland security editor, mark white. mark a very harrowing incident. what's the latest? >> yeah, it's an incident that unfolded just before 2:00 this afternoon in parnell square, east. we've got latest images in from dublin for you now that we can show you off the scene around there. we where you can see the ambulances , the fire see the ambulances, the fire bngade see the ambulances, the fire brigade police, it was a multi—agency response to reports of a multiple stabbing in this area just in the city centre . area just in the city centre. now, among those stabbed were three young children . and a

three young children. and a woman were told that the children may have been as young as 5 or 6 years of age. the woman was seriously injured. one of the children, a girl, were told, was also seriously injured. and they are being treated for their injuries at the moment. the police say that the moment. the police say that the families of all those who've been affected have been informed about this incident and what is going on in there as we speak. there is a significant police cordon around this area . we've cordon around this area. we've heard reports that members of the public there have been booing at members of the police. there because i think there's some real concern in that the assailant or the alleged assailant or the alleged assailant here may have been an asylum seeker . we assailant here may have been an asylum seeker. we don't assailant here may have been an asylum seeker . we don't know if asylum seeker. we don't know if that's true , but there is a lot that's true, but there is a lot of disquiet in dublin at the moment at the situation. we the

asylum seekers and immigrants in that city and whether there's any truth to whether this assailant may have been an immigrant or an asylum seeker , immigrant or an asylum seeker, we don't know. but clearly some members of the public think that that might be the case. and that's why it seems they're acting in this hostile manner towards the police . so that's towards the police. so that's just one element that you don't really need on top what is really need on top of what is a harrowing and difficult situation anyway for all those involved in this to try to come to terms with and absorb . to terms with and absorb. >> is there any evidence , any >> is there any evidence, any photographic evidence or anecdotal evidence yet of the perpetrator? the is it is it a man? is it a woman? anything at all yet? mark >> well, we've seen images of a man. he looks to be in his 50s, perhaps lying on the pavement, face up, blood coming from his mouth. we believe that is the suspect . in terms of his suspect. in terms of his ethnicity , i couldn't tell you

ethnicity, i couldn't tell you from the images we saw what that would be as well as that we've had information that members of the public rushed this suspect after he began stabbing these young children . and this woman young children. and this woman on the street . some young men on the street. some young men managed to disarm him, possibly how he came by his injuries as well. he's not seriously injured, according to the authorities , a large knife was authorities, a large knife was recovered from the scene as well , taken off the man by those brave members of the public who surrounded him effectively sat on him until the police and other members of the emergency service us arrived on the scene this man has been taken, i think initially to be treated, but he is clearly under arrest at this time. and astonishing act of bravery of that comes to be the case that members of the public intervened and could well have saved more lives. well, this is it. i mean, you know, you often

find in any of these kind of stabbing attacks that you hear that there are people that step forward. often it's the police . forward. often it's the police. if they're first on the scene, they'll push in when others understandably and sensibly would move away from such a situation. but also members of the public, we know from the london bridge attack in, you know , in borough market on in know, in borough market on in 2017, that there were members of the public that moved in to try and tackle the terrorists on that occasion in terms of terrorism, there is no suggestion , ian, from the gardai suggestion, ian, from the gardai and the irish police that they are treating this as terrorism. it certainly seems to have been an attack, obviously a multiple stabbing attack. but in terms of the motive , it seems they are the motive, it seems they are not looking down the road of terrorism at this stage . terrorism at this stage. >> okay, mark white, thank you for the latest on that stabbing in dublin. of course, be

in dublin. of course, we'll be sure of that sure to bring you more of that story throughout show as it story throughout the show as it comes to us. moving to on comes to us. now moving to on the soaring net migration figures. it turns out. net migration has actually gone down to 672,000, but only because the figure for the previous year has been revised to show that net migration actually hit a record level of 745,000. well former home secretary suella braverman has branded today's numbers record numbers as a slap in the for face the british public and labour leader sir keir starmer says the soaring level of legal migration shows the government are relying on immigration to supplement an underskilled workforce . as that figure is workforce. as that figure is shocking . okay, well, let's shocking. okay, well, let's cross now to westminster and speak with our political editor , speak with our political editor, christopher hope. chris some absolutely alarming numbers. and let's go into those first, shall we? and then we'll talk about the political fallout. so the breakdown is astonishing. the headune breakdown is astonishing. the headline figure of 672,000, but the true story , he seems to be

the true story, he seems to be a huge rise in the student visa numbers and the dependence associated with them . associated with them. >> that's right. that's right, martin. there are different figures floating around here. the seven four, 5000 figure was for the calendar year to december 2022. now, that was upgraded from 606,000 by the ons, but separate to that, there are other figures for the year to june 20th, 22 and june 2023. those figures are showing an increase from 607,000 to 672,000. the big concern is going to be they might try and upgrade the figure for the calendar year 2023. it does look like an escalating problem that the government is not gripping at all. there's big concern in the in the whatsapp groups and publicly from groups on the right of the party, the new conservatives chaired by danny kruger and the common sense group, chaired by sirjohn hayes . but perhaps more strikingly , . but perhaps more strikingly, just moments ago, suella braverman and of course, the

home secretary until monday last week put out some tweets in which she has taken apart the government's immigration strategy. let me read out what she said just quickly for you. she said on twitter or x, as it's now called, today's record migration stats show we've let in an extra million people in just two years as a population equivalent to birmingham . the equivalent to birmingham. the pressure on housing, the nhs , pressure on housing, the nhs, schools, wages and community cohesion is unsustainable . well, cohesion is unsustainable. well, when do we say enough is enough ? when do we say enough is enough? she goes on. we were elected that be in 2019 on a pledge to reduce net migration , which was reduce net migration, which was 229,000. in that year. today's record numbers are a slap in the face to the british public who have voted to control and reduce migration at every opportunity . migration at every opportunity. we must act now to reduce migration to sustainable levels.

just finally, she goes on to give her view of what should happen, which is not government policy . very briefly, she says policy. very briefly, she says at brexit gave it gave us the tools to do this. as home secretary i pushed to and here we are, here are the braverman plan for controlling migration . plan for controlling migration. put an annual cap on net migration, raise the salary threshold to 45,000, excluding health and social care. the current policy is to increase that to 30,000. so you must come to this country. you can settle here if you have a salary of more than £30,000 a year. other ideas close the graduate visa route , cap health and social route, cap health and social care visas and limit dependence as family members on all visas. a big concern has been family members coming over on if they have a student in their family coming to the uk. these are the measures put out there by suella braverman. of course, we're trying to speak to her for gb news regularly . she hasn't yet news regularly. she hasn't yet done a broadcast interview you, but she is really concerned . but she is really concerned. again, she is echoing the

concerns felt by other members of the tory party on the tory right . the big thing here for right. the big thing here for the government is it's all very well controlling illegal net migration, forgive me, illegal migration, forgive me, illegal migration over the southern border channel, that's border crossings channel, that's low. of thousands. but when low. tens of thousands. but when the numbers are hitting 672,000in the year to june this year , that's a legally allowed year, that's a legally allowed to arrive by government policy, then many of you will think this government doesn't care about controlling net migration. it doesn't care about the impact on communities. the government says it is aware of it. it's too high. it's doing what it can. but i think time is running out on this government deal with on this government to deal with this . this situation. >> w e for that >> chris hope, thanks for that succinct and wonderful update there from westminster. and i'm joined now in the studio by former labour minister denis macshane. denis once again, the conservatives are tearing clumps out of each other over over immigration suella braverman being the agent provocateur once again, the figures are causing huge consternation amongst

conservative voters. ordinarily, this would be great for the labour party, except nobody quite knows what the labour party plan to do about this ehhen >>i ehhen >> i just loved suella saying you referring to sunak ? you referring to sunak? >> she was the minister for. she was a home secretary >> boris johnson confirmed priti patel , who was a disaster >> boris johnson confirmed priti patel, who was a disaster as home secretary and then rishi sunak appointed suella braverman and they went off down this obsession with the boats. >> a few zodiacs stiff rubber boats that you can cut open with a knife. instead of focusing on the fact that britain was taking in 962,000, we're talking the net migration is a bit lower, but these are 962,000 people, principally from india, pakistan or nigeria, coming in to do the jobs that we expel . and all the jobs that we expel. and all the europeans who were doing it before without any of this fuss . before without any of this fuss. so once again, we were told in 2016, vote brexit and we'll

close immigration to control immigration. it's like foreign direct investment, lots of other things are disaster of policy of the last ten years. >> well, then is that that would hold water if the labour party's own leader, sir keir starmer, hadnt own leader, sir keir starmer, hadn't today said this is the failure to train british workers. so if we can get out of the mindset of relying on european union, this comes down to relying on cheap overseas laboun to relying on cheap overseas labour. sir keir starmer labour. even sir keir starmer today said it's a failure of training british workers. >> i that's >> it's fine. i mean, that's true in case. and the labour true in any case. and the labour government, i'm bringing out diaries quite soon on that first labour government 1997, 2001, labour government in 1997, 2001, and find myself rereading them and i find myself rereading them moaning all the time. why aren't we training our own people ? and we training our own people? and that goes to the fact that that goes back to the fact that bosses play for bosses will not play for apprentices ships. i'll give you apprentices ships. i'll give you a tiny example. a place where i work for a few years, switzerland. 27% of the swiss population is born in the eu. they've all got jobs. everybody who gets to 1516 isn't going to go to uni get has to take an

apprenticeship top up and the employers , all the different employers, all the different firms and businesses and sectors pay firms and businesses and sectors pay for that. now we ripped all that up and instead said we had bofis that up and instead said we had boris johnson to begin with. rishi sunak running to pakistan, running to india, running to nigeria, running to the philippines. >> if we go further back than that, you know, many people will lay the allegation with some fairness is that de facto open fairness is that a de facto open borders was started by your man, tony talk there about tony blair. you talk there about 1997, 1998. that's when we saw this huge upward trend, which hasn't backed off ever since. >> so that's perfectly >> so that's that's perfectly fair. i'm fair. it actually started, i'm afraid . and the end of margaret afraid. and the end of margaret thatcher's reign when the communist regime ended and we were not going to put visas on poles and czechs and east germans and all the rest of it, lithuanians, they came here, they worked , they created they worked, they created families. and then when all of those countries entered the eu , those countries entered the eu, we could have slowed it down.

like in other countries, you can't get a job. >> blair extended it to the eea's and not even sweden did that well. >> the eea is not very important . well, it is because that's when we the romanians and when we saw the romanians and the they were coming the bulgarians. they were coming in germans, after in anyway. the germans, after one year of trying to control it, law saying any it, passed a law saying any employer could hire anybody from the new countries if it suits his business. what we didn't have what they have in a have was what they have in a number other countries. you number of other countries. you don't the don't get to work unless the local workforce in a works council, there's not really a big thing. with the big union thing. agree with the owner or the managers of the firm. we had a complete hiring freedom . and i fully take the freedom. and i fully take the point though . i just don't know point though. i just don't know how. martin if you and i go and open a care home or a cafe, we're going to pay £45,000 for everybody who comes in and washes up the dishes. everybody who comes in and waswell,p the dishes. everybody who comes in and waswell, itthe dishes. everybody who comes in and waswell, it used shes. everybody who comes in and waswell, it used to as. everybody who comes in and waswell, it used to be a labour >> well, it used to be a labour party position, did it not, to pay a party position, did it not, to pay a fair wage to working pay a fair wage to the working classes, since the classes, but but then since the blair seems that blair years, it seems that instead we've, we've, we've annexed out we've visard out those jobs to people coming in from overseas to pay them less.

>> no, we're everybody here works or should be working on the minimum wage. have the minimum wage. we don't have enough the minimum wage. we don't have enougia slightly different that's a slightly different aspect of it all. and we brought in the minimum wage against tory and cbi opposition. i don't want to go back into the blair years, particularly at and it has increased wage fairness and some equalities , but undoubtedly equalities, but undoubtedly we've got no mechanism for making any of our children who didn't go to university and are enjoying life . you know, the enjoying life. you know, the bank of mum and dad just having a good time to get up at 6:00 in the morning and clean number 10 offices that still done. it always has been by immigrant workers of one sort or another . workers of one sort or another. always. yeah. i mean, look , always. yeah. i mean, look, 19505, always. yeah. i mean, look, 1950s, you went to boarding houses anywhere in england. it said no dogs, no coloured , no said no dogs, no coloured, no irish. said no dogs, no coloured, no ifish.the said no dogs, no coloured, no irish. the irish, i'm afraid i speak as a daughter of an irish immigrant family, a son. son.

sorry. i'm thinking of my mother being somebodys daughter that they were then all the time britain has for hundreds of years has had to import people to do the work that the sturdy yorkshire mid sussex man hampshire man lancashire, man london guy and woman won't do the very same people who've perhaps seen their wages suppressed and their public services swamped anyway. >> denis macshane, thank you for joining us on the show today. always to get everyone's side of the opinion. well, lots more on that story. it's the big one at 5:00. and of course, there's plenty of coverage on our website, gbnews.com, which website, gb news.com, which you've the you've helped to make the fastest national news fastest growing national news website in the country. so thank you much for that. well, you very much for that. well, yesterday i told you that 1 in 4 adults have struggled to pay their energy bills in the past three months. well, i'm afraid i've more bad news on that i've got more bad news on that front the energy price front because the energy price cap has been increased . i'm cap has been increased. i'm martin daubney on gb news and we are britain's news

isabel monday to thursdays from. six till 930 . six till 930. >> welcome back. 426 you're watching or listening to me ? watching or listening to me? martin daubney on gb news now later in the show, i'll let you know why one of nigel farage has campmates has been branded know why one of nigel farage has camp|after. has been branded know why one of nigel farage has camp|after her; been branded know why one of nigel farage has camp|after her ridiculousrded racist after her ridiculous comments to the gb news presenter. but first, the autumn statement might have done a bit more for the pound in your pocket, but don't get too excited as ofgem increased its price cap today , which means

price cap today, which means higher energy bills . that's higher energy bills. that's right. the average household bill is predicted to go up around £100 from january. in response to rising wholesale pnces. response to rising wholesale prices . well, joining me now in prices. well, joining me now in the studio is the excellent gb news economics and business editor liam halligan with on the money . so liam, for about 24 money. so liam, for about 24 hours we had a little crumb of comfort from the autumn statement. but now ofgem have pulled the rug from under what's going on. >> so is the ofgem energy >> so this is the ofgem energy price cap. this regulates gas households combined and gas and electricity bills is and what ofgem does is it puts a cap on the unit cost of gas and electricity . so if you use more, electricity. so if you use more, you electricity. so if you use more, you pay electricity. so if you use more, you pay more. obviously but and the numbers i'm about to give you are illustrative. if you are an average household using an average amount of energy on your oil and gas. so let's have a look at them. the ofgem energy price cap comes moeen ali between october and december

2023. it just came in the beginning of october is £1,834 a yeah beginning of october is £1,834 a year. so that's an illustrative of household gas and electricity bill combined a year at the moment. that's where the cap currently is, but it's going up. we learned this morning from january between january and march , it will be higher. it march, it will be higher. it will be £1,928 a year. and there you go. that is your £94 a year annual increase in the typical combined gas and electricity bill. a word of warning, though, martin, ofgem does not regulate standing charges. these are the fixed costs that you pay dependent , fixed costs that you pay dependent, you fixed costs that you pay dependent , you know, fixed costs that you pay dependent, you know, just for the privilege of being connected to gas or electricity. and i say fixed. they're not really fixed because a lot of energy providers are jacking them up royally in order to get more money because that part of the bill that you have is outside of the usual ofgem regulatory regime and something else you've been talking about and once

again, you've got it dead on, bang on the money, fiscal drag . bang on the money, fiscal drag. >> turns out today the office for budget responsible ability has said that the 2% nick gibb cut will be wiped out by a factor of five. this is stealth taxes . taxes. >> this is what often happens after an autumn statement or a budget. it's all you know, it's all happy clappy hey, fantastic, give away and then the nerds we get into the undergrowth, we start reading the technical documents and we start sussing stuff out. the obr are saying this today, i should say, you know, pat, on the back to tom harwood, emily carver and myself yesterday because we said this the moment the chancellor sat down, because it was just pretty obvious to us. and rachel reeves, the shadow chancellor to her credit, also said it. so what the obr is saying, oh yeah, that headline cut in national insurance contributions from 12 to 10% for employees . that was to 10% for employees. that was the rabbit that the chancellor pulled out of the hat yesterday. that's going to save us about £10 billion in tax between now

and 2028. right. but the fact that rishi sunak when he was chancellor and then jeremy hunt, when he was chancellor, have frozen what we call tax thresholds until 2028. so even though wages and inflation go up, the tax thresholds where you start paying tax, where you pay a higher rate of tax rather than bafic a higher rate of tax rather than basic rate, where you pay an additional rate of tax rather than higher rates, they're frozen. so and more people frozen. so more and more people get dragged into paying tax and into higher tax brackets. we're talking millions of more talking about millions of more people where we're going to people and where we're going to save £10 billion a year or £10 billion in total between now and 2028, because of that national insurance contribution cut. we're going to pay , say, £44 we're going to pay, say, £44 billion more in tax because of the fiscal drag , the frozen the fiscal drag, the frozen thresholds. so we're getting 10 billion and we're paying 44 billion. so there you go. >> so for simple folk like me, that means basically jeremy hunt gave us a quid and he reached round, took a fiver out your back pocket.

>> roughly that's >> that's roughly that's roughly what's that's what's going on. yeah. that's roughly on. thank roughly what's going on. thank you. you very jeremy you. thank you very much, jeremy hunt. thanks for halligan >> and thanks for liam halligan as making crystal as ever, for making it crystal clear. there's more clear. okay. there's loads more still to come between now and 5:00. i'll get reaction to the very welcome news that the chancellor provide £10 chancellor will provide £10 million to support veterans mental health. great news. but first, here's your latest news headunes first, here's your latest news headlines with theo chikomba . headlines with theo chikomba. >> it's 4:31 on theo chikomba. in the newsroom. ireland's justice minister has described a suspected stabbing in dublin as an appalling attack on three innocent children and a woman . innocent children and a woman. these pictures are coming into us live from the scene in dublin city centre . taoiseach leo city centre. taoiseach leo varadkar says police have detained a suspect following the incident in the city centre and that his thoughts and prayers are with the victims and their families. he said he remains in

contact with the country's justice minister. five people have been taken to hospital . all have been taken to hospital. all emergency services are at the crime scene at parnell square , crime scene at parnell square, east. the 13 hostages held by hamas are due to be released from gaza as a temporary ceasefire with the terror group is to begin tomorrow . a is to begin tomorrow. a spokesperson from qatar foreign ministry said the first group of civilians will be released at 4:00. >> the beginning of the pause will be 7 am. friday, the 24th of november, and it will last, of november, and it will last, of course, as agreed for four days and the first patch of civilians to be released from gaza will be around 4 pm. of the same day . they will be 13in the same day. they will be 13in number. all women and children and those hostages who are from the same families will be put together within the same patch .

together within the same patch. >> meanwhile, the foreign secretary has met with israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu on a visit to the country. lord cameron said he wanted to see for himself the communities affected by last month's hamas attacks, and he hopes all those involved in the truce deal will make it happen . truce deal will make it happen. here in the uk , downing street here in the uk, downing street says more measures could be introduced to kerb net migration . it comes as new figures showed that legal migration to the uk hit a new record of 400 and 745,000. in the year to december. most estimates suggest immigration is now slowing, while the number of people leaving the uk is going up. you can get more on all of those stories by visiting our website gbnews.com or. for stunning gold and silver coins, you'll always value. >> rosalind gold proudly

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so i wanted to give credit where it's due to the chancellor and focus on this. now, joining me now is army veteran justin bonds. justin, thank you very much for joining bonds. justin, thank you very much forjoining us on the show. much for joining us on the show. and i always say thank you for your service. it's the greatest calling to stand up for your country. thanks for that. means a lot to all of us watching the show. and i know there, it show. and i know out there, it really resonates . it's a really resonates. so it's a topic you hear lot about. i've topic you hear a lot about. i've done a amount work on done a huge amount of work on suicide know that suicide reduction. we know that men and women in the forces are largely driving a lot of that which is a very, very sad affair . so when you hear that £10 million has been dedicated to this trust through the veterans places , pathways and people places, pathways and people programme , does that bring you programme, does that bring you great heart ? great heart? >> it does indeed. after so long of fighting for causes to highlight the struggles of what veterans go through and the measures that they have to to take get to and from

appointments. >> and i think this the 10 million funding will will reach out to a lot more veterans that are struggling and enable them to get to and from and appointments a lot easier. >> and hopefully there'll be a campaign to put it out there that there is a lot more help available than what we that we hear of basically me and justin. >> what kind of difficulties do you hear from your comrades, your friends, your brothers, your friends, your brothers, your sisters who serve the kind of barriers they face, the struggles they go through, and what do you feel needs to be done ? done? >>i done? >> i feel that when we leave the army , we tend to get forgotten army, we tend to get forgotten about quite easily. >> there's no follow up from the military. >> so it's just you finish off your service and you're quite easily forgotten about and swallowed up in a big world. >> and it can be very daunting. >> and it can be very daunting. >> and it can be very daunting. >> and so i think that if people are approached from the military side a lot more often and

reached out to, then i think it would make it a lot easier for someone like myself that struggled when on discharge. >> and i felt that i was forgotten about maybe a phone call every now and then or an email or whatever. >> and just to we all thought about that we're not forgotten about. and we the time that we put into the forces has been recognised because when we leave, it's like there's no follow up, there's no there's no plan put in place. >> and i've been out of the army now for nearly five years and i've not once received so much as a phone call, a text or an email from from anybody. so that makes me feel the 12 years that i put into the army saving two tours of afghanistan. >> it's all forgotten about, and it made me feel a little bit irrelevant. it made me feel a little bit irrewellt. it made me feel a little bit irre well , just said, it made me feel a little bit irrewell , just said, i'm very >> well, just said, i'm very sorry to hear i want sorry to hear that and i want you that i tremendously you to know that i tremendously value done. and value what you've done. and i think, you know, people watching this concur . it seems to

this will concur. it seems to me shocking , terrible that you shocking, terrible that you wouldn't even get a phone call or the recognition. how did that make the time , when or the recognition. how did that nwas the time , when or the recognition. how did that nwas first the time , when or the recognition. how did that nwas first out, the time , when or the recognition. how did that nwas first out, the 1e time , when or the recognition. how did that nwas first out, the army; , when i was first out, the army. >> so when i first discharge, i thought that they will come and i was valued and the services and the time that i put in there will be a phone call or someone will be a phone call or someone will reach out and say how are you doing? >> how are you getting on? and when there was no follow up, then i felt like the time i'd put in and the passion i once had for the army when i was in in the armed forces , it's just in the armed forces, it's just totally disappeared. >> and i feel like a lot of veterans will will stand with me in in saying this that the badge that you received, the veteran badge that you received in the post and it can take up to a year later on discharge to receive this badge. >> so yeah i did feel like a lot of my time in the armed forces was diminished by the follow up that we received . that we received. >> eve and justin, you know , we >> eve and justin, you know, we hear about mental health support, but of course that

often paints a picture of veterans in crisis, veterans who've hit rock bottom. would you like to see something done before that point is reached? i mean, rather than kind of solving solving the kind of symptoms, if you like, how about more support with finding work, more support with finding work, more support with integration , more support with integration, given the help you need to find housing rather than as you as you've painted a picture simply being cast aside? >> i feel that when on approach to discharge from the armed forces , the support is fantastic i >> -- >> we get an amount of money to go and take plumbing courses, electrical courses and all different courses and there's a long, long list. so i feel that the support on discharge is great. i just think that the aftercare , once we have aftercare, once we have discharged and it really, really lacks and but i don't myself i've don't a close protection course and i don't telecommunications course but when i discharged from the army , when i discharged from the army, i wasn't in the right place to

be able to transition properly into civilian work, employment. so and, and i feel that if there was something they put in place to, to have a mentor or someone like that to give me 1 to 1 and say, listen, you're doing great. you can do this . just that you can do this. just that little bit of moral support on, on, on going from one exchange to the next, going from the armed forces structure discipline to civilian workflow force, which is a little bit more laxy daisy. but having that moral support would would entice me to go into full time employment a lot quicker. >> and justin, how are you doing now, mate? i mean, you seem like you're cracking on quite nice. >> yeah. so i've gone down social media route and i currently have an agency for social media and i've done nothing. >> what i've done with my resettlement. so telecommunications or close protection, i've not done anything with that at all. and i now own an agency for social

media and it's going fantastic. so it's something that i'd never thought i'd jump into. and but the past crossed and it's worked out fantastic , but that's taken out fantastic, but that's taken a lot of time to be able to get myself up to that, to the, the confidence levels needed to achieve that. >> well, hats off to you, justin, and thank you for joining us on on gb news today. it's an absolute pleasure to talk to you. and once again, thank you your service. thank you for your service. cheers, mate. thank you for your service. chethank ate. much. >> thank you very much. >> thank you very much. >> love that . okay, moving >> oh, i love that. okay, moving on. football association has on. the football association has in the past lit up the wembley arch support ukraine arch to show support for ukraine and the lgbtq plus community. of course . but it wasn't so keen to course. but it wasn't so keen to show support for after show support for israel after hamas attack, was it? the hamas terror attack, was it? the outcry and accusations of double standards has led the fa to making a big decision. i'm martin daubney on gb news and we are britain's news channel .

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football association showed support for the lgbtq plus community. of course, by showing off the colours of the rainbow flag and famously wembley showed its solidarity with ukraine following russia's invasion . following russia's invasion. there it is, blue and yellow, of course . however, after hamas's course. however, after hamas's terrorist attack on israel that killed 1400 people, the fa wasn't quite so quick to support israel. and the controversy sparked by that incident has led to the fa deciding not to light up the arch to show any kind of political support in the future. that's right from now on, it will only be used for events related to wembley's purpose as a sport and entertainment value venue. so let's get the thoughts now of jewish sports. journalist good pal of mine, johnny gould. johnny, an absolute pleasure. it's been too long, mate. cut straight to the chase . the fa straight to the chase. the fa and stadium will back and wembley stadium will back any calls on the planet until it came to hamas murdering jews . on came to hamas murdering jews. on a serious point. how did that

make you feel ? make you feel? >> well, on a on a magnificent metaphor, as everyone was walking down the bobby moore way, the arch was bathed in darkness. >> what a perfect metaphor for the football association to produce their beautiful arch with absolutely no light. >> i mean, at least it could have been white. but it was nothing. and the double standards are absolutely appalling . and you come to me on appalling. and you come to me on the day that wasim haq, an fa council member who wrote on social media that adolf hitler would be proud of benjamin netanyahu has been forced to resign. he was involved in this decision making. when they go to their stakeholders , the fa, he their stakeholders, the fa, he was one of them. he'd already been removed from the lawn tennis association. it took a long time for the fa to suspend, to sack him or for him to be resigned in this way. but he's written a letter to the fa chief, to the chair , i should chief, to the chair, i should say, and she, she's accepted his

resignation. he's reiterated his apology. and of course he said , apology. and of course he said, as a lot of them do, a lot of a lot of jewish friends have. i'm not so many not so sure if he's got tonight . but no, it's got any tonight. but no, it's absolutely appalling. martin and i've actually campaigned for quite some time on the. tw really, that actually politics and football all should be separated . you know, you come separated. you know, you come from a county where football was is created, not scanned. i know it's not your team, but notts county were the, you know, the oldest club in the english football league alongside my great aston villa and you know, football doesn't need politicising . the reason it's politicising. the reason it's spread around the world over 6 or 7 generations. the reason the scots took it to brazil , the scots took it to brazil, the reason why we played it in central europe, all the great engush central europe, all the great english coaches played abroad was because was about was because it was about teamwork. it was the english ethic . and suddenly they add ethic. and suddenly they add sort of all these trinkets and political nods to it and they are destroying football.

>> and so i suppose the good thing is, and i really hope they stick to this, that they leave the arch in independent colours. let's have it in the cross of saint george. let's just have it for england home game in for every england home game in red white. red and white. >> there's an fa cup >> and if there's an fa cup final liverpool everton final with liverpool and everton , red and blue , let's have it in red and blue and leave it at that. and just leave it at that. >> football should football, >> football should be football, you a great many you know, johnny, a great many people watching people listening and watching you will and you now will concur and i certainly do that. >> politics should be left out of sport. saw football of sport. when we saw football players taking the knee, it caused huge division . and caused a huge division. and there it. politics and there we have it. politics and sport. when they mix like this, it causes consternation. it causes us consternation. nevertheless they went down that route. the fa gareth southgate gareth woke gate as many people call they mop all this call him. they mop all this stuff yet when it came to stuff up yet when it came to taking sides with hamas or israel , all they basically took israel, all they basically took a side with their silence being compliant . so on a serious note, compliant. so on a serious note, johnny, that was an utterly reprehensible thing to do and exposes the rank hypocrisy of the big wigs

exposes the rank hypocrisy of the bigwigs at the fa that take the bigwigs at the fa that take the knee when they want to and zip their lips when they don't. you've said it beautifully. >> it was a hound of a decision. and when the fa decided to announce that they'd been to their state holders, i'm not sure many in the jewish sure that many in the jewish community were approached or talked to at it because at least they might have defended their position. you can't be neutral in these situations and actually the football association wouldn't have been neutral if they'd just put a blue and white stripe over the arch. so what i did on the day of it was that i picked out an archive of when sheffield wednesday appeared in the final, and i put the play off final, and i put that arch picture because that arch picture up because that arch picture up because that blue and white and that that was blue and white and that got retweets few got a few retweets and a few laughs well. look , i laughs as well. but look, i suppose good thing suppose the only good thing about that they won't be about this is that they won't be doing virtue signalling again. and i say, like the arch by and as i say, like the arch by all means, but do it in the colours of the two finalists. why not? >> yeah. johnny gould, thanks forjoining us as always. a pleasure. you. great to pleasure. thank you. great to see on the show today. see you on the show today. now let's more on let's get some more details on this afternoon's breaking

this afternoon's big breaking news people, news story. five people, including young children, including three young children, have hospital have been taken to hospital following stabbing following a suspected stabbing incident in dublin city centre this afternoon . and let's go this afternoon. and let's go live now to dublin to speak to a reporter at the journal, mary maguire . thank you forjoining maguire. thank you for joining us on gb news. so i understand you're in the area. you have some extra information for us. what's latest on the ground ? what's the latest on the ground? >> yeah, so i'm in a coffee shop here just off parnell square, east. >> so it's, as you say , city centre. >> there's a psychologist there. >> there's a psychologist there. >> so an irish speaking school. and we understand that around to 2:30 pm. today, there are children lining up, very young children, senior children that were lining up for an after school club and they were attacked . passers by tried to attacked. passers by tried to intervene and try to stop the attackers harming anyone else . attackers harming anyone else. and then the gardai came and the attacker was arrested. they are not looking for anyone else at this time . so he is being

this time. so he is being detained and there are still many, many gardai at the scene and many emergency services vehicles. but they're not looking for anyone else . looking for anyone else. >> and so we heard stories that the perpetrator was apprehended and overpowered by local people who kept him pinned to the ground until the police turned up. is that what you're hearing as well . and i look as i wasn't as well. and i look as i wasn't there, but you can probably hear sirens as well in the background here. >> um, yes , i know passers by >> um, yes, i know passers by did intervene and then gardai were able to arrest the man. >> um, so that that's as far as i as i can really say with that particular moment. um, but yeah, i mean to be honest, there is, there is a massive crowd of people on both sides of the square here still. um not just media, not just even politicians, but just locals who are just absolutely stunned at

what occurred. and people for example, the journal dodi, which i worked for, spoke to one grandmother of a girl who goes to the school. she pictured granddaughter off just minutes before this incident. um you can't even imagine how something like this could shake while a community here in the middle of the city is. you know, you're in a capital city, but it's a very tight knit community and people can't believe that this is happening in our streets and moraid is there any extra information emerging yet? >> you say this was a man. is there any extra information about things like the man's age , about things like the man's age, his appearance? is there anything else coming out yet ? no anything else coming out yet? no we have no more on that at the moment. >> i think the focus is really is really on the victims. um, they're in hospital right now. um, two people, um, one little girl and also who was born purposely to be a creche teacher at the school. they are both

being treated for serious injuries and that's three other people were also injured. but, um , it's understood that um, it's understood that they're, they're injuries may not be as serious. >> and mary, what's the situation at the scene now? we can see pictures on the screen. it's all cordoned off. there's a heavy police presence. we just heard a siren go by or are there still a lot of locals in the area? i'm assuming they're very shell shocked by what's happened i >> absolutely . and i mean, there >> absolutely. and i mean, there are people there with their children just kind of watching on unable to do anything but still standing there. just the shock. still standing there. just the shock . apart from that, there's shock. apart from that, there's also a lot of people who are shouting abusive things at gardai . um, and it's at times gardai. um, and it's at times was was quite intense and there were some fights were getting quite rowdy apart from that. also some politicians have arrived at the scene. mary lou mcdonald , who is the leader of mcdonald, who is the leader of sinn fein, was here and she was just expressing her her

devastation at that at the incident. i mean , the dubliner incident. i mean, the dubliner herself , um, incident. i mean, the dubliner herself, um, so she was speaking to some of the families as well and just trying to find out more about how we support them. okay. >> thank you forjoining us >> thank you for joining us there from dublin. reporter at there from dublin. reporter at the at the the journal, mary maguire at the scene of the stabbing stabbing in dublin city centre. we'll have more on that story right after this break. stay tuned. this is britain's news channel,

gb news. welcome back to gb news. it's 5:00. i'm martin daubney. we start with this afternoon's big breaking news story . five breaking news story. five people, including three young children, have been taken to hospital following a suspected stabbing in dublin city stabbing incident in dublin city centre this afternoon. and i'm joined now in the studio by our homeland security editor mark white with all of the latest. mark, a very harrowing story. what's the latest update? well the very latest is that we are waiting news conference to waiting for a news conference to begin . begin. >> an garda sochna , the irish >> an garda sochna, the irish police in dublin are due to update us. i'm not sure how much more information they will have at this stage , but they did put at this stage, but they did put out a statement a couple of hours ago in which they told us that five people had been injured, including , we believe, injured, including, we believe, the alleged assailant . and three the alleged assailant. and three schoolgirls as and an adult female as well. now of the three schoolgirls, one of those is , i

schoolgirls, one of those is, i suppose, is reported to be in a serious condition in the adult female is also reported to have been seriously injured . the two been seriously injured. the two other schoolgirl girls and the alleged assailant are less seriously injured. the in terms of the incident itself , the of the incident itself, the police have said earlier that they believe it was an isolated incident that are not at this stage looking for anyone else in connection with this . but thus connection with this. but thus far, they have given no more indication as to a possible motive for an attack on three very young schoolgirls , because very young schoolgirls, because the reports in local media are suggesting that these schoolgirls were perhaps 5 or 6 years old. so very young primary school aged children . school aged children. >> dear, oh, dear. and you mentioned earlier there were reports of the perpetrator being

there was an intervention from locals and he was manhandled to the ground. is that what you're heanng the ground. is that what you're hearing now? >> yeah. i mean, i think the information coming out information that's coming out certainly indicate some very brave and swift actions by members of the public. one eyewitness said she saw a man clearly stabbing children with a downward motion of a man with a knife . then very quickly, it knife. then very quickly, it seems that some local men, young men, surrounded this individual, managed to knock him to the ground, kick that knife away from him . then this woman said from him. then this woman said that she and an american woman had then gone over to the scene to form a kind of ring around this man, because at that point, they said this man was being attacked on the ground. and certainly we've seen some images on social media that do show a man lying on the ground, bloodied about the face and being attended to by a dublin

fire service paramed officer at that stage. but we know no more about this individual than that . about this individual than that. i wasn't able to tell really from looking at the images , from looking at the images, anything about this person other than he appeared to be in his 50s perhaps late 50s ethnic city. it's difficult to tell really . so you know, caucasian . really. so you know, caucasian. but i don't really know much more than that. if it's the case that this perpetrator was disarmed and restrained, an extraordinary act of bravery from those individuals is, yes, incredible . i mean, you find incredible. i mean, you find these acts of bravery that that happen, these terrible mass casualty events when instinctive people run the opposite direction. you can't blame them. but there's always those those individuals that seem to be

willing to push forward. of course, the emergency services, the police , as they do that, as the police, as they do that, as a matter of course, they'll respond to a scene and they will often rush forward into danger. you don't expect that from members of the public and you don't blame anyone who just wants to get right out of the way of a terrible unfolding situation, which is clearly highly dangerous to anyone who doesn't have any capability in terms of coming up against someone with a knife. but when you hear about young men rushing in and disarming this individual , that is a tremendous act of bravery, it seems. and that will come out, i'm sure, in the fullness of time. what's happening at the moment in east parnell square, which is in dubun parnell square, which is in dublin city centre, is that this area has been cordoned off. it remains cordoned off while this investigation takes place. what you've got, what you had was the quick time reaction in dealing with the immediate emergency,

the stabbing, with the immediate emergency, the stabbing , the multiple the stabbing, the multiple stabbing of these victims. now you've got the slower time in investigation that is underway , investigation that is underway, martin, with the detectives in there trying to piece together there trying to piece together the exact sequence of events, they'll be relying on eyewitnesses that saw this unfold. they'll also be going around the shops and businesses in the area. the local authority gathering, all the cctv they can. it was in a busy, built up part of the city centre. so there should be video of this. it's a busy bus route as well. there might be a bus camera footage that maybe has also captured some of what had gone on as i speak. i think i can see that the press association action shots have come live that indicate that this news conference outside one of the main police buildings in dublin is going to start at some point

soon, hopefully . yeah. so the soon, hopefully. yeah. so the that slow time in investigation will involve . yes. looking at will involve. yes. looking at that scene , ctv speaking to that scene, ctv speaking to those eyewitnesses, but also , those eyewitnesses, but also, martin, it will be trying to delve into the background of this individual, this alleged assailant. who is he ? where is assailant. who is he? where is he from? what's his potential motivation ? we've had motivation? we've had indications that the garda and chacona do not believe that this is linked to terrorism at this stage . they must have a definite stage. they must have a definite line of inquiry that at this early stage drawn them to that particular conclusion. but that doesn't tell us about the individual and who he is and what might have been the motivation for what was an absolutely horrific attack, targeting the most vulnerable people in society , 80, you know, people in society, 80, you know, young children of 5 or 6 years

of age. >> yeah. i mean, it's an astonishingly terrifying moment, astonishingly terrifying moment, a five and a six year old at a time of day, broad daylight, busy high this could be busy high street. this could be any ordinary person, any ordinary family, any ordinary mum out there. we spoke to a local journalist, mark, in the area, who was saying bystanders standing around just just stunned, just just speechless . stunned, just just speechless. and that, of course, will be a part of the police investigation. there'll be a huge mopping up to do of eyewitnesses to . eyewitnesses to. >> people are >> yes. i mean, people are understandably very shocked and angry at what's going on. in fact, there have been some disturbing scenes with members of the public gathering round and, you know, shouting towards the police and other amongst themselves because there was all kinds of rumours swirling around in dublin about the motivation for this and who this individual still could be. but we don't know who it is. and i'm not sure that they know either. it often happens at the scene of any

incident when people are rather confused and angry and under , confused and angry and under, standardly very concerned about what has happened, especially to three young girls like this , and three young girls like this, and a woman who may have been linked to the girls. we don't know . to the girls. we don't know. there was a school nearby . it's there was a school nearby. it's possible that this may have been a teacher. according to some of the reports, we don't know this, but that's one of the jobs of the police as well as to investigate what is happening is to offer messages of reassurance to offer messages of reassurance to the public. so any incident like this, when you've got multiple victims and what is being reported and indeed acknowledged by by government ministers in ireland as an attack , whatever the motivation attack, whatever the motivation for that attack was, you need message patches of reassurance from the authorities that this is an isolated incident, from the authorities that this is an isolated incident , that is an isolated incident, that it's not an incident that has other factors to it. but it

might it might develop in terms of what you will often find in an investigation going forward when the managed to interview the suspect, when they delve into the suspect's background, there could be other people unked there could be other people linked to this individual that the police might also want to speak to. but at this stage, they're giving no details about who this individual was. it'll be interesting to see whether they shed any light on that when they shed any light on that when the news conference starts , the news conference starts, because obviously there's a lot of speculation which is not good in terms of those who are very concerned about what might have unfolded. >> and you talked about a downward stabbing motion. so it seems like a very alarming, frenzied style of was there any information at all about the weapon or the disarming, the police response time? obviously the locals got in there and disarmed the guy and restrained him, perhaps pilot frustration

from the locals was because the police took a while to get there. we don't know that information we? information yet, do we? >> well, we certainly know from eyewitnesses that have said that the man was tackled by those brave members of the public, that they managed to disarm him and take a large knife from this individual and kick it away under some bushes until the police arrived on scene and were able to sort of make that weapon safe . and at the same time , this safe. and at the same time, this suspect was being surrounded. and i think restrained on the ground by those members of the pubuc ground by those members of the public until the emergency services could respond. now, we're told that there was a very quick response from the emergency services as you would expect, in a city centre and a big city like dublin . and they big city like dublin. and they rehearse like big cities right up and down the country for the possible safety of these mass

victim incidents, casualty incidents . yes. and they will incidents. yes. and they will have been prepared for this. the fire brigade and ambulance forces were very quickly on the scene , as was garda and shikona scene, as was garda and shikona officer was very quickly on the scene as well and able to make this safe. but as i say, you know, many people are very concerned about what on earth the motivation could have been for attacking the most vulnerable in terms of these very young and defenceless girl, defenceless girls outside their school. i should also say that the families of all of those who were stabbed have been informed. so they know if it's their loved ones, because often in incidents like this, when there are multiple people, you get very worried. families not knowing if their loved ones have been caught up in this. but all those who have been affected, their families have been informed and if it were the case, as you're

saying , that locals disarmed and saying, that locals disarmed and restrained and that individual, then the chances are, mark, the very real prospect is they helped avert an even greater tragedy . yes so, no, there's no tragedy. yes so, no, there's no doubt about that , that, you doubt about that, that, you know, there was no indication that this individual from what the eyewitnesses could see, was going to stop any time soon, according to them, this individual was systematically setting about and attacking those in front of him who appeared , of course, to be those appeared, of course, to be those three girls. and this woman who may have intervened to protect the girls. so, yes , as if no one the girls. so, yes, as if no one intervenes, then these things could potentially have been far worse because we don't know what the actual motivation. marghanita interject there because we are now crossing the line to dublin for that press irish conor continue to investigate all of the circumstances of a serious assault which occurred on parnell square east shortly

after 1:30 pm. this afternoon, thursday , the 22nd november 20, thursday, the 22nd november 20, 23, preliminary indications are that a male attacked a number of people on parnell square. >> east five casualties have been taken to hospitals in the dubun been taken to hospitals in the dublin region . these casualties dublin region. these casualties include three young children and aduu include three young children and adult female and an adult male . adult female and an adult male. >> one girl aged five years has sustained serious injuries and is currently receiving emergency medical treatment in kc temple street. one boy, aged five years and a girl aged six years who received less serious injuries, were brought to crumlin for treatment and the boy has since been discharged from crumlin . been discharged from crumlin. >> an garda siochana is providing support to the parents of all the children . the adult of all the children. the adult female in her 30s is being treated for serious injuries at the mater hospital . an adult the mater hospital. an adult male in his 50s is also being treated for serious injuries at a hospital in the dublin region. >> the scene remains sealed off

at this time and a technical examination of the scene is ongoing. >> an incident room has been established here at mountjoy garda station and a senior investigating officer has been appointed . an garda siochana is appointed. an garda siochana is following a definite line of enquiry . the following a definite line of enquiry. the male in his 50s is a person of interest to an garda siochana. in this investigation , siochana. in this investigation, an and ungarische icon is not looking for any other person at this time . hungary's chikana this time. hungary's chikana continues to have an open mind at this early stage of the investigation , and garish icon investigation, and garish icon is appealing to any person with any information on this attack to contact investigating gardai . to contact investigating gardai. investigating gardai are also appealing to any person who may have mobile phone footage of the attack or the immediate aftermath to make this footage available to one garda sheer corner investigating gardai can be contacted here at mountjoy garda station . at 016668600. the garda station. at 016668600. the garda station. at 016668600. the garda confidential line . at one

garda confidential line. at one 806 66111 or at any garda station . nagarajan is not in a station. nagarajan is not in a position to provide any further information at this early stage of the investigation. thank you . of the investigation. thank you. are there any wider implications? >> because of this attack? is there suggestion there any suggestion of terrorism ? are there any terrorism? are there any suggestions that were made to the crime or any other issue? >> you can appreciate, this >> as you can appreciate, this is the very stages the is the very early stages of the investigation, is not even investigation, which is not even four hours old at this stage, but at this time ungarische organ is satisfied from our enquiries is no enquiries that there is no terror related activity or related to any wider aspects in relation to this matter. it would appear to be a standalone attack and we need to determine the reasons behind that. the victim, the victims of the perpetrator of suspect in this case knew each other. i'm not in a position to go into that detail at this time. >> we heard there was a scuffle beforehand. >> can you confirm that? >> can you confirm that? >> that at this >> can you confirm that? >> my that at this >> can you confirm that? >> my apologies. at this >> can you confirm that? >> my apologies. tellhis >> can you confirm that? >> my apologies. tell us time. my apologies. tell us about centre about the children at the centre this attend were this they attend school were they were my they stab wounds? were they. my understanding was understanding is a knife was used but we're used in the attack. but we're not in provide to provide any more nature

more details on the nature of the the children the injuries of the children they school. they were attending the school. >> out in the >> why were they out in the street? and we know the circumstances. >> again, have specific >> again, i don't have specific reason are any reason why the children are any the their carers or teachers may have the street, but have been on the street, but it's road. it's outside it's a public road. it's outside their it's a normal their school. it's a normal activity going activity for them to going to and need and from their school. we need to behind to determine the reasons behind the it's a early the attack and it's a very early stages investigation stages of an investigation at this time . well—being and child this time. well—being and child issues a critical condition , issues a critical condition, certainly in a serious condition in kc , in temple street. certainly in a serious condition in kc , in temple street . again, in kc, in temple street. again, that's not for me to disclose at this time. has the man been questioned yet? mail is receiving medical treatment at this time. is he an irish national? again, i'm not in a position the specific position to confirm the specific details of any of the details of any of any of the individuals involved in this incident . yes, we are aware incident. yes, we are aware parent parents who are aware of the incident very, very quickly and did attend. we are dealing with not just the parents of the three children, but parents of the wider group that would have seen and saw the attacker potentially traumatised well potentially traumatised as well as what happened as a result of what happened this yes again, this afternoon. yes again, that's not for an garda siochana

, but we are assured that the school will put in provisions for the family, for the children, as to what they observed and experienced this afternoon. school again, i'm not 100% sure exactly on the details of all the children and where they are from. can you say how quickly the situation was resolved in. sorry, say how quickly the incident was resolved and how quickly gardai were able to. my understanding is emergency is that the first emergency services ambulance were services were ambulance were within there within minutes followed very, very quickly by an o'connor in of my an garda o'connor in terms of my understanding is members of the pubuc understanding is members of the public did intervene at a very, very early stage . and again, we very early stage. and again, we would applaud those members of the getting involved the public for getting involved in a traumatic and in such a such a traumatic and potentially dangerous situation in such a such a traumatic and potthemselves. jerous situation for themselves. >> hospitals staff arrived. >> hospitals staff arrived. >> is my understanding the >> it is my understanding the person interest was detained person of interest was detained at the scene were hospital staff arrived at the scene? again, i'm not aware that. so i'm not. not aware of that. so i'm not. >> have any concerns >> do you have any concerns about unrest about the scenes of unrest around was around the scene? that was cordoned we're aware that the >> again, we're aware that the pubuc >> again, we're aware that the public have are concerned about the happened public have are concerned about the again happened public have are concerned about

the again i happened public have are concerned about the again i suppose ened today. again i suppose the message is we believe message to them is we believe that is a standalone that this is a standalone instance not necessarily instance, not necessarily connected wider issues connected to any wider issues that are ongoing out in in the in the country or in the city. and we need to identify exactly reasons for that happening. so we would ask for people to not jump we would ask for people to not jump to not jump to conclusions and to not make rash judgements on what may have here. have happened here. this is a random attack . again, we need to random attack. again, we need to understand the purpose behind the again, that's the attack. and again, that's part of what investigation part of what the investigation will the skills will do. how about the skills being for being put on alert for situations happen situations like this to happen again don't again or no, we don't believe that is an attack on the that this is an attack on the school. okay. thanks. were sustained of sustained by the person of interest. not interest. again, we're not confirming of any confirming the injuries of any of of the individuals of any of the individuals involved the incident this involved in the incident at this time. very guys. time. thank you very much, guys. okay. bye bye . okay. thank you. okay, bye bye. >> okay. that was the police there in dublin. mark white still in the studio here. lot to lot to unpack there. some details, some key details coming out. first of all, about the serious injuries, in fact, critical injuries of one of those young girls , mark. very, those young girls, mark. very, very harrowing details coming

out. what else do we get? >> yeah , i mean, this girl, just >> yeah, i mean, this girl, just five years old undergoes emergency treatment at a hospital in temple area of dubun hospital in temple area of dublin as we speak. in addition, a boy age five and a girl aged six that were less seriously injured, i think he said the boy had been released . yeah, that's had been released. yeah, that's right. a woman, an adult female. also injured, seriously injured , also injured, seriously injured, according to the officer , her according to the officer, her and the male who we believe to be the alleged assailant , be the alleged assailant, suffered again, serious injuries. now, we believe that he had minor injuries, but he's been described and certainly by the senior gardner guard and police officer as having sustained a serious injury. they described this person as being a person of interest to them, that they're not looking for anyone else in connection with this

incident . he was asked if this incident. he was asked if this person in custody was someone of irish nationality. he said he was not in a position to confirm that. martin and he said he was being open minded at this early stage of the investigation . stage of the investigation. question about the cause or the motive behind this attack. but he said he was confident that it was not related to terrorism and it was an isolated incident . was not related to terrorism and it was an isolated incident. but he also, interestingly, just right at the end there, said he did not believe that this was a targeted attack on the school itself . so some interesting itself. so some interesting facts coming out there. also reserved some thanks and praise for those members of the public for those members of the public for intervening. and what he said was clearly a worrying and dangerous unfolding situation. >> the wise, he said, i applaud the members of the public who intervened early on. no doubt

mark white helping this become stopping it become a much more serious condition. wow. okay i'm joined now by irish talk show host and broadcaster niall boylan . niall, we just heard boylan. niall, we just heard from the police there, the harrowing details coming out . a harrowing details coming out. a girl aged five in critical condition with serious injuries. two other children , an hurt, an two other children, an hurt, an aduu two other children, an hurt, an adult female with serious injuries. and the person of interest, an adult male in his 50s still receiving medical treatment. also with serious injuries, a harrowing incident injuries, a harrowing incident in broad daylight outside a school in dublin. quite shocking. >> and this was a gaelic school as well. for those who may not know what that is in the united kingdom, is kingdom, a girls school is a school that teaches in irish all the time. >> in other words, speak >> in other words, they speak irish, or irish, even during maths or dunng irish, even during maths or during biology or whatever it is happens and there happens to be doing. and there are of the gaelic are very few of the gaelic schools ireland . schools in ireland. >> that it was >> also very lucky that it was close a hospital, temple >> also very lucky that it was close hospital, ital, temple >> also very lucky that it was close hospital, children'se street hospital, children's hospital literally hospital is literally just around corner . around the corner. >> for people who don't

understand square is at understand parnell square is at the of o'connell street, the top of o'connell street, which thoroughfare which is the main thoroughfare in city . in dublin city. >> it couldn't busier, and >> it couldn't be busier, and that's going to part of the that's going to be part of the problem relation to investigation. >> our minister for justice investigation. >> our minister forjustice is going to be lot of going to be under a lot of pressure ireland over pressure because in ireland over the last 5 to 6 months, there's been huge of pressure been a huge amount of pressure in are streets in relation to are the streets safe? we have enough garda safe? do we have enough garda siochana or police , as you call siochana or police, as you call them, the streets on numerous them, on the streets on numerous occasions, response times occasions, the response times have been low in the city centres there just isn't centres because there just isn't enough. siochana. there enough. garda siochana. there >> it does seem that members >> now it does seem that members of intervened, of the public intervened, which was lucky when you think was really lucky when you think about because we've got about it, because we've got a five critical in five year old who's critical in hospital. we've got a woman who's seriously three who's seriously ill and three other injured . it could other people injured. it could have lot worse. my heart have been a lot worse. my heart goes the families, to goes out to the families, to these and families these people and their families and i hope they all and friends. and i hope they all make a full recovery. but this could worse could have been worse if it wasn't for bystanders the wasn't for the bystanders in the area. and this is the area. and again, this is the problem in ireland, and problem we have in ireland, and it's every it's been a discussion on every radio tv station radio station, every tv station over the last six months. >> don't have garda siochana >> we don't have garda siochana on the streets. >> don't have enough of them.

>> we don't have enough of them. well done to guards were well done to the guards who were there emergency there and the emergency service who got there in time. eventually but unfortunately, their presence is not noted on their presence is not noted on the streets. and this has been a problem of recent times. now i know said they don't know they've said they don't want speculate . want people to speculate. >> say to you, >> but again, i say to you, there's amount there's a huge amount of pressure government pressure on the irish government at of at the moment of the security of the lot of that the state and a lot of that comes to when will comes down to when people will be speculating. ask be speculating. and i would ask that don't speculate that people don't speculate about the nationality the about the nationality of the person, or may person, but as you may or may not had huge not know, we've had a huge amount and conversation not know, we've had a huge amodebate and conversation not know, we've had a huge amodebate similar conversation not know, we've had a huge amo debate similar to�*nversation not know, we've had a huge amo debate similar to the rsation not know, we've had a huge amodebate similar to the united and debate similar to the united kingdom, of kingdom, about the amount of immigrants in ireland and people's people talk people's safety. people talk about all that all the time. and again, i don't want people to speculate don't know speculate because we don't know yet is in yet who the perpetrator is in this particular case. >> niall , the fact that >> and niall, the fact that members of the public intervened so swiftly and they were applauded there by the garda , applauded there by the garda, you only have to say that without that intervention , this without that intervention, this could have been much, much worse i >> -- >> it's absolutely key. >> it's absolutely key. >> and it was a woman when you listen to this woman, she was on irish news , the national irish news, the national broadcasters a little bit broadcasters news a little bit earlier on.

broadcasters news a little bit ear thisyn. broadcasters news a little bit ear this is a woman in her maybe >> this is a woman in her maybe late so. don't to late 50s or so. i don't to speculate on her age, but i mean, she upon herself mean, she took it upon herself when seen this man doing when she seen this man doing this. described a stabbing this. she described a stabbing motion. across the road. motion. she ran across the road. she blocked him from stabbing them. she pushed the school teacher and the children out of the . and she describes the way. and her she describes an american lady surrounded this man until other bystanders got him to the ground . man until other bystanders got him to the ground. i man until other bystanders got him to the ground . i believe, by him to the ground. i believe, by the way, one of the injured was a i believe was somebody a man who i believe was somebody who may who tried to stop it. he may have us stabbed in the have got us being stabbed in the process to this process of trying to stop this individual again, i individual. so, again, as i said, could been worse said, it could have been worse if the bystanders if it wasn't for the bystanders that and if it wasn't for the bystanders that quite and if it wasn't for the bystanders that quite shocking and if it wasn't for the bystanders that quite shocking is|d if it wasn't for the bystanders that quite shocking is that what's quite shocking is that this is this is really busy this is this is the really busy part . this is the of this is this is the really busy part. this is the of the part. this is the heart of the city. there should be police on every single corner, but there just isn't. and this is the conversation been having just isn't. and this is the conmonthsn been having just isn't. and this is the conmonths in been having just isn't. and this is the conmonths in this been having just isn't. and this is the con months in this country aving just isn't. and this is the con months in this country about for months in this country about the security in the city centre because so many because we've seen so many incidents not incidents now, which is not unusual for ireland because ireland a reasonably peaceful ireland is a reasonably peaceful place. don't see many place. we don't see many murders, we don't see many incidents or assaults. but over the few that has the last few years that has

risen rapidly . and a garda risen rapidly. and a garda siochana and the chief, the chief of the police has been under huge amount of pressure under a huge amount of pressure to arrest, the to basically arrest, pardon the pun , this problem we've had pun, this problem that we've had over the last few months. >> anything, niall, it will over the last few months. >> anything, niall , it will take >> anything, niall, it will take a tragedy this for a terrible tragedy like this for the police to actually wake up and up and realise they and buck up and realise they have to do something about this street crime . street crime. >> absolutely. and the biggest problem we have is numbers and encouraging people to join the police force in ireland , we police force in ireland, we don't have a big enough police force rising force for a very quickly rising population . you've got to population. you've got to remember, ireland's population has million people has gone from 3 million people 20 are now up to 20 years ago to are now up to over 5 million people are population has risen by another 200,000in the last 18 months, with people coming for seeking international protection. ukrainian people who have come into ireland i'm not saying into ireland and i'm not saying they're responsible for all the crimes, increasing crimes, but it's an increasing population. nature of population. so by the nature of statistics, have more statistics, you will have more crime and it has become a problem only recently we saw the death ashling murphy , who death of ashling murphy, who sadly death in sadly was stabbed to death in county mayo in ireland and

joseph puska, the man response was found guilty only two weeks. >> okay, we've lost. we lost niall ball and thank you very much for joining niall ball and thank you very much forjoining us though, much for joining us though, niall, irish talk show host and broadcaster niall boylan with that this harrowing broadcaster niall boylan with that we'll this harrowing broadcaster niall boylan with that we'll bring|arrowing broadcaster niall boylan with that we'll bring moreing broadcaster niall boylan with that we'll bring more of| incident. we'll bring more of that story to you throughout the whole evening gb as it whole evening on gb news as it comes to us. but moving on comes to us. but we're moving on now story and that now to our next story and that is soaring migration is to the soaring nets migration figures. the figure the year figures. the figure in the year up june 2023 stood at up to june 2023 stood at 672,000. this marks an actual fall from the 2022 figure which has been revised to show that net migration hit a record level of 745,000 and former home secretary suella braverman has branded today's record numbers a slap in the face to the british public. well, let's cross now to westminster to speak with our political editor, chris topher hope. chris, another tory rebellion happening over this. it happened over rwanda . now it happened over rwanda. now it's happening over today's net

migration figures. and once again, suella braverman coming in with the potential solution. shall we start by running through some of the numbers and then turn round to suella then turn round to what suella braverman said next? >> okay, mark, there are two big numbers out today, martin, for the for the year in in 2022. and the for the year in in 2022. and the government had said that around 606,000 might came here net. so that's a difference between those who leave and those who arrive. they've recalibrated that to 745,000, and that's for the last calendar yeah and that's for the last calendar year. but separate to that, they've given out more new figures for the year to june 2023. and that shows an increase . from 607,000 to 672,000. that means that 1.2 million people have arrived here more than those who have left in the two years to june 2023. it's caused apoplexy amongst some parts of the conservative party. we've seen suella braverman, the former home secretary has issued

a tweet today . and she and she's a tweet today. and she and she's she's really, really upset about it. she can't understand how it's so big. of course, she stopped being home secretary last monday. she wrote here on twitter today's record migration stats show we've let in an extra million people in just two years. a population equivalent to the size of birmingham . the to the size of birmingham. the pressure on housing, the nhs, schools, wages and community cohesion is unsustainable. she finishes . when we do say enough finishes. when we do say enough is enough. that's the question. when are we saying enough is enough? that's a question for the prime minister. she's now a major critic on the backbenches . major critic on the backbenches. she's not alone. other mps on the right are very, very concerned about it. danny kruger is the chairman of the new conservative group, about 20 tory young mps trying to tory mps are young mps trying to rethink tory politics and also sir john hayes, who's chairman of the common sense group of tory mps . and earlier we spoke tory mps. and earlier we spoke to them here in westminster was our manifesto pledged that we

would bring numbers down. >> we've seen them in treble in the last four years. it's totally unacceptable if we are totally unacceptable if we are to look the voters in the eye at the election next we've the election next year. we've got deliver promise . got to deliver on that promise. and we should have and the idea that we should have had net migration of 1.3 million over two years is unsustainable and unacceptable. and frankly, the public won't wear it any longer . longer. >> they are a taste of the fury on the backbenches of the party. the problem is this is legal migration. the government is not controlling. it's not the same as illegal migration and that's why they're so cross . back to you. >> martin okay. thank you, chris. hope live from westminster never rains, but it pours the conservatives on pours for the conservatives on migration. okay. there's lots more now between more still to come. now between now and 6:00 on the day that net migration figures hit a new record it's emerged that record high, it's emerged that the of refugees sleeping the number of refugees sleeping rough in london has gone up by more than 800% in in just two months. but i want to talk to you about those figures, suella bravermans intervening, but is it too little too late? have you

completely lost faith in the conservative party? is this the final coffin nail ? that's the final coffin nail? that's the big question. let us know all the usual ways. vaiews@gbnews.uk om. but before all of that is your latest news headunes all of that is your latest news headlines with theo theo chikomba . chikomba. >> it's half past five. i'm theo chikomba in the gb news room. police have confirmed a five year old girl is receiving emergency medical treatment following a serious assault in dubun following a serious assault in dublin city centre . footage on dublin city centre. footage on social media showed emergency services on the scene in parnell square near where the incident happened. square near where the incident happened . and speaking in the happened. and speaking in the last few minutes , superintendent last few minutes, superintendent liam geraghty said a man in his 50s who has also being treated for injuries is a person of interest in the suspected stabbing 13 hostages held by hamas are due to be released from gaza as a temporary

ceasefire with the terror group is to begin tomorrow . a is to begin tomorrow. a spokesperson from qatar foreign ministry said the first group of civilians will be released at 4:00. meanwhile, the foreign secretary has met with the israeli prime minister, benjamin netanyahu, on a visit to the country. lord cameron said he wanted to see for himself the communities affected by last month's attacks , and he hopes month's attacks, and he hopes that all those involved in the truce deal will make it happen . truce deal will make it happen. downing street says more measures could be introduced to kerb net migration. it comes as new figures showed legal migration, immigration to the uk hit a new record of 745,000in the year to december. most estimates suggest immigration is now slowing, while the number of people leaving the uk is going up . here's a quick snapshot of up. here's a quick snapshot of today's markets. the pound will buy you 1.25, three, $4 and

,1.493. the price of gold. is £1,589.43 per ounce. you can find more on all of those stories on cbnnews.com . now back stories on cbnnews.com. now back to . to. martin >> thank you, theo . so another >> thank you, theo. so another story making the news today is a number of the homeless asylum seekers is soaring and it soared by 800% in two months. and this is following a change in home office policy. asylum seekers evicted from hotels in 28 just in 28 days after their right to stay is granted. i'm now joined by sarah nathan to go over this. sarah, thank you for joining us on the show. you're the co—founder and trustee, of course, of refugees at home. sarah nathan obe, sarah,

concerning figures , a boom in concerning figures, a boom in refugees, asylum seekers sleeping rough on the streets of london, in particular in tents. what do you believe is driving it ? it? >> well, it's not asylum seekers, of course. >> it's refugees. people who the home office, the government have said, do well—founded said, do have a well—founded fear persecution of refugees fear of persecution of refugees and have been given leave to and who have been given leave to remain here. so not asylum seekers, at least . so what's seekers, at least. so what's driving it is two things. i think essentially. one is that to clear the backlog in asylum seekers, the home office is making many more decisions than it was. it made very, very few since before the beginning of covid. there was backlog. covid. there was a huge backlog. the committed to the prime minister committed to clear which is clear the backlog, which is great ways, the great in many ways, and the number decisions made has number of decisions made has gone hugely. and at the same gone up hugely. and at the same time, the effective length of time, the effective length of time that a new refugee gets to find somewhere else to live after they move out of asylum seeker accommodation has been effectively cut from 28 days, which isn't very long to seven days, which is virtually nothing. and you know, think about it, you're in a country

you don't in actually, even you don't live in actually, even if you're in country did if you're in a country you did live find yourself live in, could you find yourself a account, a job, an income a bank account, a job, an income and a home in seven days? none of us could . i don't see why we of us could. i don't see why we expect refugees to be able to do so. >> yes, sarah, the absolute numbers, the 820% increase, when you look at the absolute numbers, it's 102 refugees. these sleeping rough. there are 11 in the previous year. so there has been a substantial increase . what would you like to increase. what would you like to see done? because presumably they they have been granted the right to remain in the country. so therefore, they are now legally allowed to work . but at legally allowed to work. but at the same time, you're saying they're being evicted from what hotel rooms where they would ordinarily have been . and so ordinarily have been. and so they can they work, but they can they can work, but they're the they're effectively on the streets. like to streets. what would you like to see this see done to change this situation sarah? see done to change this sitlwell, sarah? see done to change this sitlwell, silike’ see done to change this sitlwell, silike there to be >> well, i'd like there to be a longer period in which refugees can find work and accommodation. nobody gets a job in seven days, especially if only just nobody gets a job in seven days, espyyour.y if only just nobody gets a job in seven days, espyyour national only just nobody gets a job in seven days, espyyour national insurancet got your national insurance number. so it's really, really

hard . and moving on really hard. and moving on is really hard. and moving on is really hard. are hotels , hard. people are in hotels, they're accommodation hard. people are in hotels, theythey're accommodation hard. people are in hotels, theythey're being:commodation hard. people are in hotels, theythey're being slung odation hard. people are in hotels, theythey're being slung out:ion and they're being slung out sometimes even notice . sometimes with even less notice. one of the young men who's staying at the moment, staying with me at the moment, a yemeni chap, he was evicted literally was told literally on the day he was told the police were going to be told to rid of him he didn't to get rid of him if he didn't leave the house. the hotel immediately. days immediately. he spent seven days sleeping rough paddington sleeping rough in paddington station to me he station and he came to me and he was in state of complete was in a state of complete shock. think thought shock. i don't think he thought this could possibly do this country could possibly do something like that. i see people day who have been people every day who have been evicted with a week's notice, ten days notice and it's just impossible. you can't find places mean refugees at home has its referrals have gone up ? in its referrals have gone up? in november 22nd we had 85 referrals in the whole month . referrals in the whole month. this month to date, we've had 259. that's way over 200% increase. october it was the same 69 last year and it was 204 this october. for those sorts of figures. and if you look at say what the big issue has found,

they've done some research across the country and the councils are saying they cannot cope because figures have gone up five fold in sevenfold in bradford and almost three fold in leicester and five times in coventry. that's sort of huge upsurge is bad for everybody. it's terrible for the refugees, but it's not great for the rest of us either. do we want to see thousands of people street homeless ? the red cross says homeless? the red cross says there'll be 50,000 refugees as street homeless by christmas. that's what we want to see. don't be. >> i think, sarah, a lot of people and we all agree, you know, homelessness is something that we would like to tackle. there are, what, 274,000 homeless people throughout the united kingdom. and this is a small amount and important amount. of course . but what amount. of course. but what would you say to people went would you say to people who went their fact their frustration at the fact that don't seem able to sort that we don't seem able to sort our own homeless problem ? and it our own homeless problem? and it seems that people who've been in hotels, maybe sometimes for a year at the taxpayer's expense . year at the taxpayer's expense. yes, they are obviously going through a struggle now. but a

lot of people would say charity begins home. what would you begins at home. what would you say attitude ? say to that attitude? >> this is charity beginning at home. it's not helping anybody to people quickly. and to evict people so quickly. and actually, people wouldn't need to hotels , would they, if to be in hotels, would they, if they were allowed work, if they were allowed to work, if they were allowed to work, if the you may the home office says you may not work can dependent . work, you can only be dependent. it's a very kind of unconservative thing to do in a way. we're making you dependent. we're letting you work, and we're not letting you work, and then we're blaming for it. then we're blaming you for it. that right, does it that doesn't seem right, does it 7 that doesn't seem right, does it ? it seems like a very odd thing to course, there's much to do. of course, there's a much bigger homelessness problem. it's huge homelessness problem it's a huge homelessness problem and needs a proper being and that needs a proper being addressed by policy. i mean the refugee absolute numbers is quite small. it's just that it has suddenly gone up by such a large proportion as a direct result of home office policy in a very few months. and that is startling and i think concerning whatever your views are about other people who are homeless or all of all, homelessness is bad. we all agreed that. but to make people homeless so quickly from

a position where they haven't been allowed to work for maybe a year or years, haven't year or two years, they haven't been anything been allowed to do anything really. suddenly you really. and then suddenly you say, you've got say, well, you've got you've got status believe are status. we believe that you are fleeing you're fleeing fleeing war. you're fleeing persecution now you're out on your ear with no warning. effectively sure it effectively i'm not sure who it helps . helps. >> and sarah, what do you say to people like suella braverman who say this is precisely what she was the growth was warning about, the growth of tented places like tented cities in places like london. and she said homelessness is a lifestyle choice . do those kind of choice. do those kind of comments make you pull your hair out ? out? >> it really does. nobody believes that. and you know, i live near the a40 in west london. there's a footbridge over that. and under that bridge at one point, ten eritrean young men and yeah, we bought some tents for them because what was the other option when there were so many so quickly? were we supposed out in supposed to leave them out in the is that could we the rain? is that could we have been could been arrested? could we have been arrested? could we have been for showing basic been fined for showing basic humanity to people who were out in the rain because of a ms braverman's policy changes? that

doesn't seem right, does it? >> no. and sarah, what do you make of the boom in kind of small boat arrivals and the backlog? surely what you'd like to do is try and solve this backlog to get process the claims process more quickly so we don't drive people onto the streets . streets. >> i would like to see claims sorted more quickly, and that is as i said at the beginning, an incredibly important thing to do. but i would also like to see that don't need to cross in that you don't need to cross in small in order to claim small boats in order to claim asylum. ukrainians don't. you don't see a single ukrainian in a small boat and the you a small boat and the reason you don't they claim don't is because they can claim asylum effectively asylum or effectively claim asylum or effectively claim asylum online and then pick it up at visa centre. if were up at a visa centre. if we were doing that, you don't again, it's a not very conservative thing to do to attack the supply when actually what you ought to be attacking is the demand. of course people will try and cross in small boats and people will facilitate it illegally. of course there's course they will. if there's a demand. just keep demand. and if we just keep saying you can only claim asylum if have landed in the uk, if you have landed in the uk, then there is going to be

demand. if one has a humane route that claim from route that you can claim from elsewhere like ukrainians, like people kong , then you people from hong kong, then you would trade or you'd would stop that trade or you'd massively diminish it and you wouldn't have these people putting lives risk. and putting their lives at risk. and that's not great. it's not the smugglers putting lives at smugglers putting their lives at risk. are risk. it's the people who are desperate and again, doesn't help anybody and doesn't solve the problem . the problem. >> and sarah, one of the positive aspects of today's net migration figures that came out as the humanitarian visas are 9% down sorry, they're 9. they are down sorry, they're 9. they are down from 19% last year. and presumably that is because the uk has fulfilled its obligations in a fair and proper way to the ukraine and hong kong . i would ukraine and hong kong. i would hope so. >> i haven't looked at them in detail. and you'd hope that would be the reason. but they are different visas. those are very different visas. those visas different from visas are very different from ordinary asylum seekers, ordinary refugees. it's a specific and that's a specific scheme and that's a good . but there lot good thing. but there are a lot of other there are of other people. there are afghans, there are syrians, there are yemenites and eritreans fleeing and eritreans are fleeing war and persecution. we ought to persecution. and we ought to treat people with some

treat those people with some fairness as well as treating ukrainians fairness. ukrainians with fairness. >> sarah nathan obe, the >> okay, sarah nathan obe, the co—founder and trustee of refugees at home, thank you very much joining this much for joining us this afternoon on gb news. much appreciated. now nigel farage is still making waves in the jungle. as you'd expect, one of his has been accused his camp mates has been accused of making racist comments towards the gb news presenter i'm daubney on gb news i'm martin daubney on gb news and we are britain's news channel

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them. why on earth did dependents need to dependents from abroad need to move here with the students? marian it's a great point and there's been huge boom in marian it's a great point and there' numbers.1uge boom in marian it's a great point and there' numbers. it'se boom in marian it's a great point and there' numbers. it's drivingin those numbers. it's driving a lot of you potty. in fact, 96,000 dependents came over with 378,000 students. it's and it's a huge issue. and not only that, but 65% of them, as i pointed out earlier, stay in the country after their course has expired . after their course has expired. chris has been in touch to say this . there chris has been in touch to say this. there is a massive issue of bogus student visas. students just use the visa as a way to get a foot in the door. it is a massive money spinner, chris. that's a point that was made by henry bolton earlier. and certainly people i've been speaking to think we need to have a good old look into the university business and in particular its visa application system with countries like nigeria and indeed india. gerry says this as senior members of the government , says this as senior members of the government, including the prime minister, need to be held accountable for the massive immigration numbers published today. immigration numbers published today . the impact on access to today. the impact on access to doctors , dentists and housing is

doctors, dentists and housing is causing huge problems for british people. gerry so many people echo that sentiment . are people echo that sentiment. are they really, really do. and it just seems that the people sometimes , as you say, refugees sometimes, as you say, refugees welcome don't live in the areas where they end up going. these asylum seekers and it's placing huge strain on the schools, the doctors and the dentists in areas where gb views news viewers live. ruth, as this of course the government want more immigrants for universities . immigrants for universities. what would these down at heel towns which now have universities do if they lost those institutions? all these students and academics keep them afloat? ruth a lot of people are agreeing with you. this now seems like a huge business. is it one obviously that the university wants to keep going? yes. but is it also one i put it to you that maybe the government wants to continue to the fact of the we have thousands the matter is we have thousands and thousands, 378,000 student visas last year , up 58,000 on visas last year, up 58,000 on top of 96,000 dependents, 65% of

those remain in the uk. top of 96,000 dependents, 65% of those remain in the uk . that, i those remain in the uk. that, i think is something which needs to be looked into. now, moving on a bit of fun to end the show to the latest from the celebrity jungle. nyla rose has accused nigel farage of wanting people like her gone from the uk as she spoke to him about remarks he has made about reducing immigration numbers . immigration numbers. >> finally, your anti immigrants i >> -- >> and -_ >> and who told you that? >> and who told you that? >> oh , the internet. >> oh, the internet. >> oh, the internet. >> oh, the internet. >> oh, well, there we are then. it must be true. it must be true. it must be. it must be true. it must be. it must be true . true. >> e >> okay. but then why don't black like you? black people like you? >> amazed. they do . >> you'd be amazed. they do. you'd be amazed. >> nigel, if you . >> nigel, if you. >> nigel, if you. >> but how is nigel and everyone else faring in the jungle? well, joining me now to discuss this is showbiz journalist steph techy. steph, hello again . we techy. steph, hello again. we have to deal with this head on. the rumble in the jungle. nella just becoming basically that real pub ball and outright

attacking nigel and i think she's come out of this looking rather bad. >> martin every episode i've watch of i'm a celebrity, nella just cancels herself further . just cancels herself further. like, i feel like there's no redemption for her. i feel like number one. martin who made her the spokeswoman for all black people to make such a comment like she did last night. i think what she's been doing is she's been trying to prove be a bit controversial . but what she's controversial. but what she's saying actually quite saying is actually quite offensive black people offensive to black people because there are some people who do agree with who do not agree with immigration and some people who do actually like nigel farage. so she nowhere has no so she is nowhere has no authority to say such comment events like that. and, you know, if you're going to come against someone like nigel farage on such a topic like that , make such a topic like that, make sure your facts ready sure you've got your facts ready . and i think that's a problem with coming . and i think that's a problem with a coming . and i think that's a problem with a lot coming . and i think that's a problem with a lot of coming . and i think that's a problem with a lot of accusationsyming . and i think that's a problem with a lot of accusations andg with a lot of accusations and she's shown she she's quite immature for an influencer. most influencers will like to think about , you know what, i want to about, you know what, i want to get more deals out of. i'm a

celebrity, but she is doing the opposite. think she comes opposite. i think when she comes out, she's probably going to be dropped lot of people dropped by a lot of people and people are going to lose interest she's interest in her because she's proven bully. she's proven to be a bully. she's trying to get entertainment value and it's not working at all. it's quite disgraceful and it's quite embarrassed to be honest. >> steph, i'm really glad you mentioned the facts because i took a bit of time today going through the gov.uk . database through the gov.uk. database because two of the claims she made . last night, the first one made. last night, the first one is most of your doctors are asian, right? well, guess what? they're actual fact, 74% asian, right? well, guess what? th nhs actual fact, 74% asian, right? well, guess what? th nhs staff actual fact, 74% asian, right? well, guess what? th nhs staff are ctual fact, 74% asian, right? well, guess what? th nhs staff are white, act, 74% asian, right? well, guess what? th nhs staff are white, 12% 74% asian, right? well, guess what? th nhs staff are white, 12% are of nhs staff are white, 12% are asian. she is correct to say that in speciality doctors , 44% that in speciality doctors, 44% are asian versus 34% white. but she's incorrect on that . the she's incorrect on that. the second one, she claimed most of your nurses are african women, right? factually incorrect. an actual fact , it's 32.6 of our actual fact, it's 32.6 of our nurses. percent of black, asian minority, ethnic 10.7% are black. and that's not even all

the africans. she's utterly, utterly wrong and ignorant on these topics. and i think steph is so , so key that we try and is so, so key that we try and keep this on point. but to nigel, be fair, he was polite and they agreed to disagree. they parted company, they shook hands. >> well, that's the good thing because and this is why nigel is in the jungle, because ignorance has been bliss when it comes to his thoughts on brexit. but whether his thoughts where people do think he's a racist, this is nigel's chance to actually his truth. so actually speak his truth. so it's good when he's up against someone like neil who doesn't know the full facts or hasn't even been reading the newspaper and think what was quite interesting yesterday, who had a better approach was danielle harold, the former eastenders star, where she asks nigel whether he would want to be the next leader of the conservatives. deny conservatives. he did not deny it. so potentially, think it. so potentially, i think nigel kind of making known what his , you know, his future his, you know, his future ambitions are . and i think this ambitions are. and i think this is what we need to be having on these shows , real these reality shows, real

debates real conversations debates and real conversations and not just playing up for entertainment value. because once the cameras stop rolling, the public would have made up their you. and if it's their mind on you. and if it's bad , it doesn't look for bad, it doesn't look good for you run. but today you in the long run. but today should . we have should be interesting. we have we have campmates coming on. frank, frankie, tory and tony bellew. and i think that will also be further rumble in the jungle with them, with their rivals tonight. >> suburbs of steph takyi . >> suburbs of steph takyi. thanks for joining >> suburbs of steph takyi. thanks forjoining us as >> suburbs of steph takyi. thanks for joining us as ever. okay now i'm joined for another rumble in the jungle, hopefully not by michelle dewberry, who joins studio. joins me in the studio. obviously, you're doing dewbs& co. also addicted to that co. i'm also addicted to that jungle in solidarity with nigel because all of these people saying they're to boycott , saying they're going to boycott, i'm a celebrity. >> well, i've gone opposite >> well, i've gone the opposite way it for way and i'm watching it for the first its entirety first time in its entirety because of nigel. i know it's something quite odd night. something quite odd last night. i don't know if anyone else picked up on it when that nella person i don't know if you person she i don't know if you watched it or you up watched it or have you caught up on discussed on that? obe discussed it. she turned said, know turned around. she said, i know that as the victim in

that i'm seen as the victim in here or words to that effect. and thought , here or words to that effect. and thought, hmm, well, she's and i thought, hmm, well, she's trying play the key ones. trying to play the key ones. >> in actual fact, she's not >> and in actual fact, she's not the victim at all. she's i think she's she's an overactive loudmouth . turning into she's she's an overactive lou> okay, you've got a quick minute to tell us coming minute to tell us what's coming up menu. up on dewbs& co menu. >> we'll the very >> well, we'll have the very latest horrendous latest on that horrendous situation dublin. mark will situation in dublin. mark will be keeping me company to bring us up to speed on all the goings on want, of

on there. then i want, of course, about course, talk about the net migration i've got ben migration figures i've got ben habib, housewives favourite, britain's next prime minister make of that what you will whichever description you prefer. so i want to unpick all of that, what's going on and ask whether would whether or not labour would do a better job managing our betterjob of managing our borders. think that what borders. do we think that what would also as would that look like? also as well, i want to ask about the rise rights. get rise of the rights. so get wilders in netherlands . i wilders in the netherlands. i find interesting. find it quite interesting. what's going on just in the what's going on not just in the netherlands, lots of other netherlands, but lots of other different as well. netherlands, but lots of other differer behind as well. netherlands, but lots of other differer behind that?; well. netherlands, but lots of other differerbehind that? iwell. netherlands, but lots of other differerbehind that? i want what's behind that? i want to explore unpick well . explore and unpick that as well. natwest sid we earn don't natwest tell sid we earn don't we? about 40% there or thereabouts of natwest . is it thereabouts of natwest. is it right then this plan to make us shareholders or not. and lots more to great stuff. >> i'm very envious that you've got ben habib. i tried to get him on this show earlier on. i was very disappointed. delighted for you got him. it's for you that you got him. it's going to be a show. dewbs& for you that you got him. it's goicomingz a show. dewbs& for you that you got him. it's goicomingz a i've show. dewbs& for you that you got him. it's goicomingz a i've shovymartin s& co coming up, i've been martin daubney. back tomorrow, daubney. i'm back tomorrow, three six. stick around daubney. i'm back tomorrow, three dewbs. stick around daubney. i'm back tomorrow, three dewbs & stick around daubney. i'm back tomorrow, three dewbs & co stick around daubney. i'm back tomorrow, three dewbs & co stick after|d daubney. i'm back tomorrow, three dewbs & co stick after the break. >> hello again . welcome to your >> hello again. welcome to your latest gb news weather update from the met office. remain

windy for many areas through the rest of today, but there'll be a spell of rain marking the change to colder weather through to some colder weather through the next hours or so. for the next 24 hours or so. for many us, that spell rain many of us, that spell of rain will brought this cold will be brought by this cold front. it's slowly sinking southwards it, that's southwards and behind it, that's when much colder when we've got the much colder air so some air being introduced. so some rain for a time across central areas afternoon. and then rain for a time across central areathe afternoon. and then rain for a time across central areathe south rnoon. and then rain for a time across central areathe south through nd then rain for a time across central areathe south through this1en into the south through this evening. further north, fairly dry many, but rather cloudy. dry for many, but rather cloudy. there will be some snow showers across the of scotland and across the hills of scotland and some icy and very windy conditions the shetland conditions across the shetland isles well through isles as well through the evening , we'll see temperatures evening, we'll see temperatures lower than last night. so a chillier start tomorrow morning, but frost will be fairly limited because of that strengthening breeze. but it will be a very chilly day through friday for the bulk of the uk away from the far south—west. so temperatures here still through the here will still fall through the day . there'll be here will still fall through the day. there'll be a bit more sunshine on offer though, through of through friday. plenty of sunshine up through scotland, through friday. plenty of sunshine england,]h scotland, through friday. plenty of sunshine england, centraland, through friday. plenty of sunshine england, central areas northern england, central areas of england as well. a little cloudier in far southwest cloudier in the far southwest where we're holding on to that

slightly milder through into slightly milder air through into the afternoon on friday and then through saturday with clear spells. it'll be a very frosty start potentially as low as minus to start on saturday minus eight to start on saturday morning. but again , plenty of morning. but again, plenty of crisp, autumnal sunshine across the uk through saturday. there'll be another frosty start on sunday, but rain will arrive from the west, giving us a more unsettled start to the new week

? and what 7 and what about labour? do you reckon they would do a better job of migration in and over in the netherlands? get wilder. he has won a surprise victory and i've got to say a similar things have been happening in other countries. or what is behind the rise of the right and as taxpayer , as we earn nearly 40% taxpayer, as we earn nearly 40% of natwest plans afoot now to let us buy the shares off the government in a kind of tell sid kind of way, is that a good idea or not? and the fa have decided

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