and a very good evening. >> welcome to farage. at 7:00 here on gb news. what a day. another big day for political news. yes we have had record immigration figures. is that a good thing or a bad thing? we'll be discussing that, of course. and within that, i have got an exclusive live about what i believe is a student visa shock shocker that you haven't heard from anyone else that is to be looked forward to later. now, of course , nigel is in the jungle. course, nigel is in the jungle. you may well have been watching. more to come tonight, more revelations , it's fair to say. revelations, it's fair to say. we'll obviously be talking to ben leo about that and to finish the show . this

ben leo about that and to finish the show. this is ben leo about that and to finish the show . this is extraordinary. the show. this is extraordinary. is labour losing the muslim vote? is labour losing the muslim vote? we'll be discussing that in detail later on. but first up, it's the news with theo chikomba . i'm theo chikomba theo chikomba. i'm theo chikomba in the newsroom . in the newsroom. >> police have confirmed a five year old girl is among the victims of a stabbing in dublin. she was one of five people injured in the attack and is said to be in a serious condition in two other children and a woman are also being treated in hospital. police say they are not treating the incident as terror related . incident as terror related. irish police superintendent liam geraghty described the extent of some of the injuries. >> five casualties have been taken to hospitals in the dublin region . these casualties include region. these casualties include three young children an adult female and an adult male . one female and an adult male. one

girl aged five years has sustained serious injuries and is currently receiving emergency medical treatment in kc temple street . one boy, aged five years street. one boy, aged five years and a girl aged six years who received less serious injuries, were brought to chc crumlin for treatment . the boy has since treatment. the boy has since been discharged from chc crumlin i >> -- >>13 >> 13 hostages held by hamas are >>13 hostages held by hamas are due to be released from gaza as a temporary ceasefire. with the terror group is to begin tomorrow . a spokesperson from tomorrow. a spokesperson from the qatar foreign ministry said the qatar foreign ministry said the first group of civilians will be released at 4:00. meanwhile the foreign secretary has met with israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu on a visit to the country. lord cameron said he wanted to see for himself the community he's affected by last month's hamas attacks and he hopes all those involved in the truce deal will make it happen . officers are make it happen. officers are appealing for dashcam footage following a crash that killed

four teenagers in north wales. jevon hirst harvey owen , will jevon hirst harvey owen, will fitchett and hugo morris were on a camping trip in north wales. their bodies were recovered on tuesday after a car was found overturned and partially submerged in water. north wales police says it appears to have been a tragic accident. police are asking anyone who has been travelling . on the a4 085 in travelling. on the a4 085 in gwyneth between sunday and tuesday for information . downing tuesday for information. downing street says more measures could be introduced to kerb net migration. it comes as new figures showed that legal migration hit the uk new record of 745,000in the year to december. most estimates suggest immigration is now slowing, while the number of people leaving the uk is going up, energy bills are expected to rise after the energy regulator announced a 5% increase to the price cap from january. the average household will pay

around £94 more over the course of a year. ofgem says the increase is mostly driven by market instability and global events . this market instability and global events. this is gb news market instability and global events . this is gb news across events. this is gb news across the uk on tv, in your car, on digital radio and your smart speaker by saying play gb news now it's back to richard . now it's back to richard. theo. >> thank you very much indeed . >> thank you very much indeed. welcome to farage at seven here on gb news. with me , richard on gb news. with me, richard tice. now i just want to test your memory. do you remember that slogan back in 2000, i9? that slogan back in 2000, 19? take back control was the slogan we were promised . in fact, that we were promised. in fact, that was the slogan back in the referendum. take back control of our money and borders. our laws, money and borders. that's the crucial one. do you remember reading the conservative party manifestos , conservative party manifestos, not just in december 19th? but also in three other elections to

2010, 2015, and then 2017? that all promised consecutive li that they were going to reduce immigration numbers into the united kingdom. you might even remember david cameron . he said remember david cameron. he said he wanted to bring them them down to the tens of thousands, tens of thousands. just think about that . well, something about that. well, something seems to have happened. and the numbers released this morning confirm that actually it's done exactly the opposite. it has gone into an exponential , all gone into an exponential, all uphill , gone into an exponential, all uphill, almost a straight line, uphill, almost a straight line, uphill . just look at this graph uphill. just look at this graph that i've got here, which actually takes you back to, i think, the 1950s. and you can see that for a number of decades actually , we almost had since actually, we almost had since 1964, we almost had a net immigration in and then we had numbers at around less than 100,000 a year. and then all of

a sudden things changed when tony blair came to power in 1997. and the numbers increased to about 250,000. that was all part of the whole freedom of movement in the european union . movement in the european union. and then the tories came to power . in 2010. and we'll and then the tories came to power. in 2010. and we'll just look at that graph again because the numbers gradually increased. they sort of milling around the 250,000 mark and then occasionally up to 300,000 mark and then suddenly here we are, 2021, 22, and now 2023, you can see this vertical line going absolutely north at a rate of knots . in fact, so rapidly absolutely north at a rate of knots. in fact, so rapidly is it heading north that the government has had to admit via the office for national statistics today say that last year's number that they confirmed six months ago was 606,000 net. it was not. no,

they got it wrong by 20. actually it was 745,000 net. but the gross number, people coming in was about 1.25, 1.3 million people. that's about the size of birmingham . so just bear that birmingham. so just bear that image in mind. so that was 2022. and we were told at the time that it was an exception all yeah that it was an exception all year. don't worry about it . year. don't worry about it. things will start to come down. well it turns out it wasn't exception . here we are, the 12 exception. here we are, the 12 months to june 23rd and actually the number is just under 700,000. so it wasn't exceptional. this seems to be the norm now. so that promise of david cameron's of tens of thousands is i mean, we're rapidly heading towards based on that graph, we're heading closer to a million net now within that

graph, within those numbers , graph, within those numbers, there's something extraordinary , there's something extraordinary, and that's the number of student visas being granted. and it's really important to concentrate on this because i've got two graphs here that show that actually the student visas , the actually the student visas, the first one here that you can see shows this is the growth in student visa numbers in the last four years. it's almost tripled from around 200,000 to 500,000. so that's sort of two and a half times just on students. but that's not the end of the story. no, no, no, no. we've got more to come because what the next graph shows is , is the growth in graph shows is, is the growth in dependent s who've also come to the united kingdom alongside their students. now, when i went to university, i didn't take my girlfriend to uni up in manchester. you know, i was i was okay. i could cope on my own. but no, this is all changed. yeah. so the number of

dependents has increased by 6 or 7 fold to about 150,000. so you add . 500,000 to 650,000 student add. 500,000 to 650,000 student visas and student visa dependents . yes. okay. that's dependents. yes. okay. that's 650,000. but here's what i can reveal that i don't think anybody else has focussed on in the overall ons numbers . they the overall ons numbers. they have totalled . 410,000 student have totalled. 410,000 student visas. so there's a gap . between visas. so there's a gap. between 410 and 650,000. that's almost another quarter of a million gross and net. so where have those quarter of a million gone? some might say, well, that'll come up in this year's numbers. well, if that's the case, yes, then it proves my point that these numbers are not exceptional. they're baked in. it well prove if the it might well prove if the student numbers continue to grow, which the universities want them to, and some in the government want them to, that

actually we're going to see a higher net immigration in this year and in the year to june 2024. so the takeaway from this, folks , is that this is not folks, is that this is not exceptional . this folks, is that this is not exceptional. this is baked in. and that therefore leads me to ask the question, the audience question this evening is , is question this evening is, is this record immigration? is it the ultimate brexit betrayal? is this record immigration the ultimate brexit betrayal? email me farage at gbnews.com or tweet hashtag farage on gb news. well, i'm delighted to be joined in the studio by demographer and author paul marland on my left and on my right. kristian niemietz, who is the head of political economy at the institute of economic affairs. gentlemen, welcome. thank you for being with us. so i'm going to come to you, paul, you you studied demography . me, you studied demography. me, you understand this sort of picture, this of growth. i mean, this level of growth. i mean, 1.2 million people arriving in

the united kingdom and this has a significant effect. i mean , a significant effect. i mean, that's that's about 1.5% of the existing population . have you existing population. have you seen this elsewhere before? and is this basically out of control and baked in? well we haven't seen it historically . seen it historically. >> we and we're often told we're a nation of immigrants. this is a nation of immigrants. this is a complete myth. this is in one year massive , more people coming year massive, more people coming into the country than came in the whole period from the anglo saxons second world war. saxons to the second world war. >> from the >> just say that again from the from the anglo saxons to the second world. that's a long time ago. >> nothing like 1.2 million people came into the country. if you british as you take the british isles as a whole , of course, much of that whole, of course, much of that penod a whole, of course, much of that period a single period we were a single political united political entity, the united kingdom britain and ireland. kingdom of britain and ireland. we had an inflow of normans , we had had an inflow of normans, quite a small number of people, very hard to know exactly how many had some huguenots, we many we had some huguenots, we had a jewish immigration of a few hundred thousand over a 20 year period before the before the first world war. and dribs

and drabs. but nothing like this . and you're talking . and we. so you're talking about more one year than about more in one year than about more in one year than about years. about 1000 years. >> years. sorry, the >> 1500, 1500 years. sorry, the mass working. mass isn't quite working. >> these years have gone on. and mass isn't quite working. >mean se years have gone on. and mass isn't quite working. >mean that ars have gone on. and mass isn't quite working. >mean that that|ave gone on. and mass isn't quite working. >mean that that was gone on. and mass isn't quite working. >mean that that was true. on. and i mean that that was true. 20 every the last 20 years every year of the last 20 years that's true. that's been true. >> that's year. but we >> but that's one year. but we had we've now got had 20, 22. we've now got 23. and what i think is we're going to see the same in 24. and how does a country cope demographically with these numbers and the impact on actually on our our community is indeed our culture? >> well, there are precedents. there are countries of immigration like the united states , which had massive states, which had massive immigration at the end of the 19th and early 20th century. countries built on the ideology of immigration and countries with a huge amount of space for mass immigration into traditional countries with long established indigenous populations, as in europe , populations, as in europe, undoubtedly is giving rise to the an increase vote for the far right. we've seen that in the netherlands. we've seen it in sweden, we've seen it in italy . sweden, we've seen it in italy. we see it on our streets .

we see it on our streets. >> yes, i think many would say that's not the far right. that's just people concerned about what's going on with immigration numbers across the whole of well , term far right is , i think the term far right is has a about it, which has a taboo about it, which doesn't particularly concern me. >> to the right of >> i mean, to the right of traditional to the right of parties which simply failed parties which have simply failed to cope or to respond to popular demand. >> absolutely . well, we'll come >> absolutely. well, we'll come back to that in a second. christian is this i mean , the christian is this i mean, the impact on housing, which i'm going to talk about later, but the impact on other public services with this level of net immigration on health and on transport, on infrastructure , i transport, on infrastructure, i mean, this is seismic and actually we do you agree that people's quality of life is shifting in a downwards direction as a result of this ? direction as a result of this? >> i do. but it doesn't have to be that way even with the current numbers, because even though absolute migration though the absolute migration numbers are unprecedented , there numbers are unprecedented, there have been periods in the past when population growth rates

were relatively similar. so the post—war baby boom or of course most of the victorian age . and most of the victorian age. and the reason why nowadays is the pubuc the reason why nowadays is the public sector can't cope. the health system can't cope, the housing market can't cope with that. these sectors are either nationalised or the state controlled supply. and that is the issue that we can't get any infrastructure built because we have an endless planning process around it. the nimby lobby is blocking new house building. if we could sort that out, then at least in those terms. hi migration numbers would not have to be a problem. we're going to talk about housing later, but we've our home secretary talk about housing later, but we'vin our home secretary talk about housing later, but we'vin ijob. home secretary just in the job. >> we've got a government that's promising down the promising to bring down the numbers and yet the home secretary's today says secretary's statement today says there are a number of important and positive changes driving the figures. the biggest changes are students and healthcare workers, testament to a world leading university sector. well, i've got to what the farage moment later on, which will truly shock you one of these you about one of these universities. so the home secretary seems pretty relaxed

about this, and yet we've got a government that's not investing in pubuc government that's not investing in public services in order in the public services in order to be able to cope with these sizeable numbers and which seem to be a complete breach of what they promise the people. >> well, that that is part of it. they are trying to part of the reason why the numbers have been so high in recent years is that the government has made a conscious decision to recruit more people in the health care sector. that's i think, more than 100,000 on its own specific visas just for the health care sector. and since there aren't enough medical graduates domestically, that is the way they have done it. now, this may not be a one off, but it is nonetheless something that they're not. they won't keep doing this forever, but that it is the result of a political choice . and this has more to do choice. and this has more to do with the health care system than with the health care system than with the health care system than with the immigration system. >> is a political choice. but >> it is a political choice. but we the autumn statement we had the autumn statement yesterday. office for budget yesterday. the office for budget responsibility released its 170 page report that i've read where it confirms that actually

people's net disposable living standards, net disposable income is at a record low since records began some 50 years ago because there's no growth and you've got these sort of levels of immigration and therefore actually everybody's poorer as a result, both financially and from a quality of life point of view. >> well, that's that's got a lot more to do with bad economic policy choices . policy choices. >> so immigration on its own , as >> so immigration on its own, as long as you make sure that people play by the rules and you don't get immigration into the benefit system, but into the labour market, it can be neutral in of living standards or in terms of living standards or even positive as long as you make sure we've got that. >> but isn't the proof that actually we've got actually it's not. we've got zero got over a zero growth, we've got over a million people coming here, supposing got labour supposing we we've got a labour shortage, we've got over 5 shortage, but we've got over 5 million out work million people on out of work benefits me that benefits. it seems to me that the choices made have failed. >> well, i mean you can't get a work visa right now. you can't get a under the current get a visa under the current system. normally if you go through the work route, unless you a job offer and there

you have a job offer and there is a minimum salary that you have to earn . so it's not that have to earn. so it's not that you can come in and the minimum salaries, i mean, in some cases is down to 20 grand, £20,000. >> it's like two thirds of >> so it's like two thirds of the average wage that's hardly adding value, is it? in terms of. >> yeah, the high skilled, highly qualified. >> yeah . >> yeah. >> yeah. >> is an exceptional, a >> that is an exceptional, a special rate. the standard threshold is 26,000 and something still 20% below the average salary. >> christian, i'm just going to come back to you, paul. these i mean , this is an experiment mean, this is an experiment which feels to me that the numbers are showing is actually failing because the threshold, the salary threshold, the skills level, the added value isn't there . and therefore, actually there. and therefore, actually we've got zero growth and net disposable income for people is down. >> i think there's another point which we need to consider as well as the purely economic pick, which is the demographic which is that i started in which is that when i started in the workforce and perhaps when you there was a big flow of you did, there was a big flow of 20 who were born in

20 somethings who were born in the uk, bigger than the 60 somethings leaving the workforce . if we have a labour shortage now, it's true there people now, it's true there are people who who perhaps who aren't working who perhaps could, always been could, but that's always been true. labour rate participation could, but that's always been trlthe abour rate participation could, but that's always been trlthe countryite participation could, but that's always been trlthe country is participation could, but that's always been trlthe country is fairly:ipation could, but that's always been trlthe country is fairly high)n in the country is fairly high already. we could get that up, but the fundamental problem i think is that the 20 somethings coming into the labour force are almost being outweighed by the 60 somethings leaving it. we have this hunger for labour partly we've created partly because we've created industries like the universities which now want to suck in. that's fine, but we've got 5 million of our own people are out of work benefits, so the labour is potentially labour force is potentially there . there. >> as long as we can make work pay pay time is against us. gentlemen, you so much gentlemen, thank you so much indeed. paul morland and kristian niemietz for that fascinating discussion. we'll be coming back to that. and of course , my question i want your course, my question i want your thoughts on that after the break. we'll talking about break. we'll be talking about the housing crisis impact on this coming up straight after the break. don't go anywhere .

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>> welcome back, my friends . >> welcome back, my friends. well, my audience question this evening on the back of these record immigration numbers, this morning released is this record numbers, this record immigration numbers, this record immigration numbers, the ultimate brexit betrayal ? stephen says betrayal? stephen says absolutely a catastrophic betrayal of brexit. stephen's pretty clear on that, john says, of course , we've been betrayed of course, we've been betrayed by the lying and useless politicians . they won't be happy politicians. they won't be happy with that, chris says. this is interesting. these immigration figures are to rub the nose of the brexiteers in it. i suspect there's some truth to that. chris. actually from some of the remoaners in parliament. jenny says it's an absolute betrayal . says it's an absolute betrayal. she says the tories have bunged their ears up because no matter how loud we shout they will not listen. will. i described the sort of the profile of

immigration, the promises for the conservative party in many manifestos and in the last election and it's all been ignored completely the other way. and there are so many implications of high levels of immigration. we heard earlier from paul moreland and kristian niemietz , but i deliberately niemietz, but i deliberately didn't talk about the impact on housing because my next guest in the studio is a housing expert , the studio is a housing expert, one russell quirk property and housing expert. russell, very good evening. thanks for being on the show. now now these numbers firstly , were you numbers firstly, were you shocked by these ? well, the net shocked by these? well, the net migration, migration and indeed the gross numbers. >> yes. i was. but also the fact that they had to be revised and of course, that there was a little on in little bit of stealth gone on in previous years, by the looks of it, just a few percent. >> yes, they seem to have changed the methodology. >> it's huge. and obviously >> yes, it's huge. and obviously not just from a housing perspective, but from the point of resources, of view of all resources, completely and utterly unsustainable. >> and so what's the let's just

look at housing, because clearly we know that basically, i mean, the cost of renting has gone through the roof. you've got the usual sort of economic factors of demand and supply and we've got a graph here which you'll remember earlier in the show had the graph the immigration the graph of the immigration numbers, is the line numbers, which is the blue line on this graphic. now, russell, the red line, and this is since 1964 to now, now the red line on this graph is the housing completions . during that same completions. during that same penod. completions. during that same period . so you've got net period. so you've got net immigration soaring in recent years and you've got a collapse in housing numbers . so, yes, in housing numbers. so, yes, what we've got both graphs going the wrong way. >> so we have net migration increasing substantially , as you increasing substantially, as you can see from the graph from the point of view of housing supply. so provision new homes, so the provision of new homes, whether sale or rental, whether that's sale or rental, because comes out of same because it comes out of the same pot, we've pot, effectively what we've actually seen in real terms is a halving . so 50% reduction in halving. so 50% reduction in housing provision since the 1960s. so in the days of the macmillan government and during

the 60s 70s, typically about the 60s and 70s, typically about 300,000 were built and 300,000 new homes were built and produced in britain year. produced in britain every year. now now over the last 13 years. so since the start of this particular government, it's only 168,000 homes. i have to say to you, labour, not that much better . so before the labour better. so before the labour supporters start crowing and saying, oh, well, we'll be much, much get in next much better when we get in next yeah much better when we get in next year. won't because year. no, they won't because their average is only 180,000 homes versus their homes per year versus their own self—imposed targets. but £300 a yeah >> the sir keir starmer has promised that they'll do one point. he's promised he'll build 1.5 million in 5 years. so that's 300,000 a year. yeah. when did we last build 300,000 homes in this country? >> in the 1960s. >> in the 1960s. >> in the 1960s? >> in the 1960s? >> yeah. and if keir starmer manages to do that, i will eat my richard remember that folks , >> richard remember that folks, you heard it here first. russell has eat shoes. has promised to eat his shoes. if in the next five years we build 300,000 homes, it's simply not going to. agree you. not going to. i agree with you. i very unlikely. i i think that's very unlikely. i promised last week eat hat promised last week to eat my hat on else. i'm going promised last week to eat my hat onpromise else. i'm going promised last week to eat my hat

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more people have to live in the same homes, the same dwellings. yeah, particularly the sort of debunk up in be able to debunk up in order to be able to , yeah. , to live. yeah. >> so there some mitigation , to live. yeah. >>recentere some mitigation , to live. yeah. >>recentere withne mitigation , to live. yeah. >>recentere with interest ation in recent years with interest rates ridiculously low, in recent years with interest rates they'veulously low, in recent years with interest rates they've gonely low, in recent years with interest rates they've gone back', in recent years with interest rates they've gone back to but now they've gone back to what would normal levels. what i would call normal levels. and interest and by the way, 5% interest rates high by historic rates are not high by historic standards. rates rates are not high by historic standgone rates rates are not high by historic standgone back rates rates are not high by historic standgone back to rates rates are not high by historic standgone back to normaltes rates are not high by historic standgone back to normal levels. have gone back to normal levels. so there no more so of course, there is no more that mitigation. so for first time buyers, getting harder time buyers, it's getting harder and the point in and harder. but to the point in terms those houses get terms of how those houses get built, and it's not just keir starmer and, you know, previous prime ministers of all political flavours that have just literally licked a finger and stuck it in the air and said, we are to build houses. well are going to build houses. well it's nothing but wishful thinking and rhetoric. the reason they won't, frankly, is because the contrast now between where we are today on housebuilding in the 1960s is two things. first of all, we used build and lots of used to build lots and lots of council in the 1960s council houses back in the 1960s and about half those and 70s, so about half those 300,000 homes were social homes that the that were needed. but but the other that we are now, other reason is that we are now, whether like it not, and whether we like it or not, and i say this as a huge capitalist,

by the way, before anybody starts telling me off for being a we are in the hands starts telling me off for being a of we are in the hands starts telling me off for being a of housing�*n the hands starts telling me off for being a of housing supplyands starts telling me off for being a of housing supply ofis in terms of housing supply of just they just ten house builders. they now control almost, but some would builders being built, would say builders being built, some say, we to some would say, well, we need to get we need to ease some would say, well, we need to get planning we need to ease some would say, well, we need to get planning regulations.» ease the planning regulations. >> be great for the >> and it'd be great for the economy if we built 3 or 400,000 a year. but it's not fantastic. >> it's a misnomer to say it's the process. the the planning process. so the difference between those planning granted planning permissions granted over and the houses over ten years and the houses actually built is huge. it was a huge gap, a bit like your graph there far as planning there in so far as planning consents built . so consents versus what's built. so you're developers? you're blaming the developers? i'm blaming the house builders. i'm blaming the house builders. i them because as if i don't blame them because as if they working to the behest they are working to the behest of their shareholders, don't of their shareholders, i don't blame that's their job. blame them. that's their job. but their job. >> might a labour government >> so might a labour government say, well, actually we're going to borrow to build, we're going to borrow more are they going more money, how are they going to or print more money? to do it or print more money? and might we're just and they might say, we're just going build 150,000 council and they might say, we're just going on uild 150,000 council and they might say, we're just going on oni 150,000 council and they might say, we're just going on on governmentuncil and they might say, we're just going on on government owned land. >> and i wish they would. but the problem is governments and local authorities don't know how to they're to build houses. they're not developers. it's wishful thinking. easy to say. and thinking. it's easy to say. and

frankly , look, it's if you don't frankly, look, it's if you don't if you don't do something about the strand hold of those top ten house builders who have no social, they've got the social responsibility. >> absolutely. well, that's a good point. we will come back to that. good point. we will come back to that . russell quirk, thank you that. russell quirk, thank you so much indeed for sharing your expertise and knowledge on that. he knows a thing or two, talk of knowing a thing or two. after the be back the break, we'll be going back to gold coast. extraordinary to the gold coast. extraordinary events of course, i'm events on of course, i'm a celebrity. last night, ben leo is waiting to speak to us. don't go anywhere. it's fascinating because continues to because nigel continues to reveal all. stay

indeedin indeed in the us as well. >> welcome back to farage on gb news. well of course it's all happening down under in australia. i'm sure that you've been watching each night every night, but if you haven't, you haven't caught up or you still sort of thinking about watching. then i've got a few special

highlights of, of last night and what nigel was getting up to. just watch this. the bags arrived with four game birds, silky birds , and most of the silky birds, and most of the camp are looking at it going ah and i'm thinking, terrific, nigel, how many times have you done this ? done this? >> thousands. >> thousands. >> you do this every weekend in season? >> yeah. oh god. >> yeah. oh god. >> luckily we have nigel farage. you don't often get to say that. >> i mean, it is a proper birdie meal tonight. upper birds. yeah. proper bird. >> so, nick, do you like a good game bird? i do like a game bird . now we're going to get everything tidied away properly tonight after last night's. yeah and it was. i'll take it down. nigel >> we will not have another tonight. >> like the rubbish. no no. failed a failed. now they can't have that one again can't it. having them again. >> and we like nella gave me these to bring back. they're all dirty. geez christ are they. oh

no . oh well, there we are. no. oh well, there we are. >> i mean , we've all been >> i mean, we've all been slightly terrified here about nigel's obsession with cleaning, so don't worry, nigel. here we are. i've got some cleaner. yeah, we're going to keep the desk clean for you. no worries at all will be okay, at all. all will be okay, because nigel is very concerned about things being clean . i about things being clean. i think we've got better things to do at the moment. but anyway, it's be absolutely it's going to be absolutely fantastic tonight fantastic again tonight and we're to see what we're just going to see what ben's got in store for us. ben, are you there on the gold coast once again? look at that. see behind you? it looks marvellous. how's surfing ben . how's the surfing going, ben. >> well, you were taking the mickey out of me yesterday for my attempts at surfing, but that was my first ever. was my first time ever. literally i was rather ungraceful, admittedly, and not not as elegant as these guys out here, but what a lifestyle. five in the morning here. and they're out and out on their surfboards and paddle look, enough paddle boards. but look, enough of nigel had his second

of that, nigel had his second rumble in the jungle last night over his stance on immigration. he'd already been lambasted by fred sirieix, the french remainer , for a couple of days remainer, for a couple of days back, last night, nella rose got involved and had a crack at him. this is what happened . this is what happened. >> so basically, but this is what i was saying. apparently your auntie immigrants. and who told that ? the internet. told you that? oh, the internet. oh there we are then. >> it must be true. it must be true. must must be true. >> okay. but then why don't black people like you? >> okay. but then why don't bla you'd�*ple like you? >> okay. but then why don't bla you'd be like you? >> okay. but then why don't bla you'd be amazed.? >> okay. but then why don't bla you'd be amazed. they do. >> you'd be amazed. they do. you'd amazed , nigel, if you you'd be amazed, nigel, if you came me . if you came with came with me. if you came with me . if you came. if you came me. if you came. if you came with me through south london, you'd astonished. oh, wow. you'd be astonished. oh, wow. >> south >> what were you doing in south london, nigel? well, i'm there every chuck around london, nigel? well, i'm there eve accusation chuck around london, nigel? well, i'm there eve accusation is chuck around london, nigel? well, i'm there eve accusation is the ck around london, nigel? well, i'm there eve accusation is the wayround the accusation is the way that they've chucked is they've been chucked around is grossly unfair. >> anti—immigrant , right? >> anti—immigrant, right? no, no. said is we cannot no. all i've said is we cannot go on with the numbers coming to britain you britain that are coming. do you know ? i'm one of the know why? i'm one of the numbers, right? so. so that's it then. so should it be 5 million a year? 10 million? question no, you to understand. you don't see to understand. nigel hang on, hang on.

nigel hang on, hang on, hang on. >> immigrants, you . >> immigrants, if you. >> immigrants, if you. >> on, hang on, hang on, >> hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on. >> they've been in power. a bit later about immigrants . and later about immigrants. and isn't it ironic, richard, just hours after that was filmed like a gift from the gods of common sense, the uk's net migration figures get released. >> proving nigel's point in its entirety. a city the size of birmingham coming to the uk in just over two years. and i've been wondering what nigel's reaction would have been to those figures and all those migration figures and all nella's , nella rosa's fans nella's fans, nella rosa's fans having a crack at for that having a crack at him for that row we just saw there. i think he'd say, well, you all laughed at me. well, you're not laughing now, you elsewhere tonight, now, are you? elsewhere tonight, two new campmates frankie dettori , three time champion, dettori, three time champion, flat jockey, is joining the camp alongside former pro boxer tony bellew, who admittedly, nigel does have some previous width, so nigel may get a hat trick of confrontations . i'll just read confrontations. i'll just read you what tony said of nigel last yearin you what tony said of nigel last

year in response to a video on migration that nigel put out on twitter . baillieu said migration that nigel put out on twitter. baillieu said nigel, learn to see people for who they are and not what they look like. it's because of people like you that racism still exists. absolute mania like you are just over two and a bit weeks of this left to go. it feels to me. >> thank you very much indeed. ben it feels to me this is just warming up. i mean, with fred and with tony coming in. you do not want to miss any of this. i think we're just seeing literally a sort of almost the tease , the warm up to this . and tease, the warm up to this. and you're quite right, ben, thank you're quite right, ben, thank you for that. those thoughts there . you're quite right about there. you're quite right about nigel's views on on these immigration numbers complete out of control, complete betrayal of what we were promised with brexit. and when people voted this conservative government in and within some of these these numbers, i was also pretty astonished to learn. and what do you think of this, folks ? so you you think of this, folks? so you may or may not know of the

university of hertfordshire, which is based around hatfield, which is based around hatfield, which extraordinarily only i mean, maybe it is a global epicentre of education some 32,000 students from over 140 countries. here's my what the farage moment that you can do a course, an msc in management costs you about 15 grand a year. there's no need to speak english andifs there's no need to speak english and it's 100% coursework like so probably you barely need to even turn up. so it's probably not a surprise that somewhere like the university of hertfordshire is the place where that's where most for example, nigeria students and their dependents, where they've chosen to go. you don't need to speak english. i don't need to speak english. i don't know, maybe artificial intelligence translates all of your coursework into english for it to be marked. who knows ? but it to be marked. who knows? but what do you think about that ? i what do you think about that? i think something's going wrong

here. i think the student numbers are completely of numbers are completely out of control. to control. i think we're going to see more next year. i think see even more next year. i think essentially many people around the world have worked out that this is the back door into the front door to live in the united kingdom . now, of course, we did kingdom. now, of course, we did ask the university of hertfordshire for a comment and their spokesman said, we have a stringent engine criteria , entry stringent engine criteria, entry criteria, checks for all of our students, irrespective of where they came from, which is all clearly listed on their website. we're extremely proud that our university continues to attract students from all over the world and celebrate their valuable contribution. international students enhance the university experience for our community and contribute enormously to the life of the economy , the region life of the economy, the region and the uk . well, that may well and the uk. well, that may well be the case, but i'm not so sure because what i think is going on here is that you can now get a graduate visa for two years after you've got your degree that then qualifies you for a

five year skilled worker visa, including your dependents and then you can stay here forever . then you can stay here forever. so you can see how the back door all of a sudden is the front d00hi all of a sudden is the front door. i think we're going to see these student numbers continue to rise. the government has pledged otherwise . let's wait pledged otherwise. let's wait and see. well something a little bit different now after the break is labour struggling to keep its muslim vote. we're going to be talking about that. there is a serious row brewing. don't go anywhere. it's farage on . gb news patrick christys on. gb news patrick christys tonight, 9 to 11 pm. is britain a hotel for immigrants? >> i delve into the scandal that is our net migration figures alongside daily telegraph columnist allison pearson, who wants rishi out. plus, after i'm a celeb diva, nyla rose clashed with nigel farage. our young people ignorant on the issue of immigration. the israeli government spokesperson responds after that bombshell . kay burley

after that bombshell. kay burley interview will bring you the latest big moments from nigel's jungle journey and the most exciting paper review anywhere on the telly. patrick christys. tonight at p.m. there or

>> welcome back to farage and last week i was touching on some of the problems that the labour party might have in terms of the pressure from muslim communities where constituents have got a big muslim vote and how that might transpire. might you see the possibility? i asked it, of independent muslim candidates challenged being traditionally safe labour mps in safe labour seats. well i think i was on the money. just watch this clip from andrew marr in late october. just watch this muslim community

is more united in its anger about gaza and palestine now than it has ever been, and that, according to this census support for the labour party is dropping from around 70% to below 5. >> that is a catastrophic fall in support for labour. the muslim community is turning its back on the labour party at the moment. labour for an awful lot of muslims was the soft way into politics as was described to me. but it is no longer and people are looking again very, very aggressively at what keir starmer has been saying and they're encouraged to they're being encouraged to do so and community so by imams and community leaders all across the country. and the danger for the labour party is that the other side of this argument really this argument is really well—organised and moving quite fast. so i've been told there are spreadsheets passing around of every single labour mp with a reasonable muslim vote in his constituency, a reasonable muslim majority looking at exactly what he or she has said on this subject and how what they're saying is changing week by by week . i mean , that's

extraordinary. >> that was andrew marr in late october . well, i'm delighted to october. well, i'm delighted to be joined in the studio by scarlett mccgwire, former labour adviser under tony blair. gordon brown very experienced in labour politics, labour circles . politics, labour circles. scarlet that is fascinating. i mean that was so that's some three weeks ago. 3 or 4 weeks ago from andrew marr. he's very experienced commentator and he's had that intelligence . i would had that intelligence. i would argue that the labour party's had more challenges since in terms of some of what i think is the harassment and bullying of mps depending on what they've said and are you are you surprised by this ? i mean, the surprised by this? i mean, the idea of spreadsheets and things? no, no. >> i mean i, i knew about it, but i think that that was october. so i think, i mean, jenny finley, what happened was that keir did a car crash lbc interview in which he said, yes, it's okay if israel cuts off aid , food and fuel to the palestinians in gaza . it was

palestinians in gaza. it was a terrible mistake . right. and he terrible mistake. right. and he should have recanted on it within within the hour. and he took a week . and during that took a week. and during that week, people were really, really angry. but i mean, i know one of the one of the leading councillors who who resigned, i mean, she was incredibly sad. she can i say, believes in a two state solution , absolutely state solution, absolutely condemns hamas for what happened. but actually also feels that labour should be talking about what's happened to the palestinians and the deaths of the palestinians and certainly only i mean, you know, you're right that that many labour mps have had literally thousands and thousands of emails. i mean i think. stephen timms had 12,000 last by last week . karen timms had 12,000 last by last week. karen buck had ten, 10,000, 10,000, yes, yes . i 10,000, 10,000, yes, yes. i mean, i think almost everybody has had had over a thousand. but actually it is, it is. it's a

moving situation. yes, for sure. >> but but the concept of those huge numbers of emails, imams being involved and it seems to me you've got in the last couple of weeks, you've got much greater harassment. it feels to me that actually far from being overcome, it's getting worse . overcome, it's getting worse. >> talking to mps is it's >> no i talking to mps is it's not getting worse. i mean , the not getting worse. i mean, the might be trouble spots. i mean, for instance , you know, in tower for instance, you know, in tower hamlets, tower hamlets, there's lutfur rahman, who a who who's very well—organised. he's got his well—organised and certainly , you know, is he and his people are desperately trying to bully rushanara ali. but actually for most mps, even though there was a campaign, you know, no, no ceasefire, no vote, and to say, you know, we're not going to vote for you unless you vote for starmer's held off, hasn't he? >> still not for >> he's still not called for a ceasefire. he's called for a humanitarian pause. >> richard, what is going >> but richard, what is going to happen morning is this happen tomorrow morning is this

a humanitarian pause or is it a ceasefire? right. i mean , you ceasefire? right. i mean, you know, the rockets are going to stop up, we hope the killing is going to stop some of the hostages is are going to be let go . they say it's going to be go. they say it's going to be four days during those four days, there'll be massive negotiations . i days, there'll be massive negotiations. i mean, days, there'll be massive negotiations . i mean, that's negotiations. i mean, that's exactly what we all want. >> so to happen. yeah, look, we all want peace, that's for sure. and in those days, and in those four days, hopefully the hostages will be released and there's a essentially it's a sort of prisoner swap, isn't it? there seems to be about 150 palestinian prisoners coming from israel . but palestinian prisoners coming from israel. but in a palestinian prisoners coming from israel . but in a sense, from israel. but in a sense, there was a ceasefire before october the 7th. i mean, it's the thing is, though, you can't have a one sided ceasefire that's called surrender. no, no. >> and i'm not. i mean, there was no question on that through all of this, as palestinians were being killed in their hundreds and thousands. right. that hamas was sending rockets into israel, that that i mean, i

don't think the vast majority of these labour muslims who are very, very angry , i mean, really very, very angry, i mean, really vast majority absolutely condemn hamas and just want they want what they want to make sure is the palestinian voices are being heard. right. >> so, yes, so this is essentially it's an ongoing anxiety for the labour party and labour mps between now and the next election, that if they if they get this wrong , they're they get this wrong, they're going to be faced with potentially dozens of well resourced, well organised independent candidates. it's a sort of it's a threat , it's the sort of it's a threat, it's the threat of something hanging over them, isn't it? >> i mean, so i think it's going to happen if it happens at all, it'll happen in very, very few places . right. is it'll happen in very, very few places. right. isis, is that places. right. is is, is that i think at the moment you know, everybody's looking at the ceasefire or the whatever we

call it. right it is it's happening now . that's what's happening now. that's what's important. there's no question that that this is exactly what keir starmer and labour wanted, that they they have been talking about gaza, that actually we don't know what's going to happenin don't know what's going to happen in the future, but i mean, i think the other thing you have to remember is that the labour movement is not just muslims , right? the labour muslims, right? the labour movement as a whole, including mps , feel very, very strongly mps, feel very, very strongly about palestinian palestine , about palestinian palestine, gaza, israel and on. and there's a whole gamut, right, of different opinions. i mean, there are labour friends of israel and labour, friends of palestine within, within the majority of the labour party . majority of the labour party. >> do they feel that for a permanent solution, which obviously everybody wants that actually hamas cannot govern gaza? or are they a are they a bit soft and gooey on that critical point , i don't think

critical point, i don't think i think that the permanent solution is a two state solution. >> but i mean, there is a they can't they can't be governed by hamas. but but also , there's a hamas. but but also, there's a problem in the west bank about governance. i mean, there's a terrible problem in the west bank about what the settlers , bank about what the settlers, they killing palestinians . they are killing palestinians. right. but there's a real right. but there's also a real problem about governance. and actually the what i mean, sometime ages ago, right at the beginning , i sometime ages ago, right at the beginning, i think it was simon tisdall of the guardian talked about this is all about old men. this is about netanyahu. this is about and about about hamas. and this is about about hamas. and this is about about abbas. and actually what we need is a whole new new governance of governance, leadership of both the west bank, but also critically and gaza and gaza . gaza and gaza. >> well, there's a lot of water to pass under that bridge. coming back to uk politics, immigration numbers released this morning. labour's position , this morning. labour's position, i mean, they're quite relaxed about mass immigration. they're not going to not going to reduce the they?

the numbers at all, are they? >> mean, the point is >> well, i mean, the point is this is legal immigration. yes. right. so what you is right. so what you have is essentially tory policy. >> you to say is, is >> what you have to say is, is why are we having all these people? >> i mean, when people go, oh, well , you know, we need to put well, you know, we need to put well, you know, we need to put we need to put the threshold up so that you have to earn more money. well, where are we going to get everybody else? we need to get everybody else? we need to i mean, i was reading we've got 5 million people out work got 5 million people out of work benefits who i i want benefits who i want i want to live threshold from 12.5 live the tax threshold from 12.5 grand grand and get 2 or 3 grand to 20 grand and get 2 or 3 million of those back into work. >> be right thing. >> i must be the right thing. >> i must be the right thing. >> is not why don't >> that is not why they don't work, mean, the not work, richard. i mean, the not all well, 2.5 million are all sick. well, 2.5 million are two and a half. >> there's five. so that's >> yeah. there's five. so that's another million. went another 2.5 million. i went into work and also there's >> no. and but also there's always unemployment . i mean, always unemployment. i mean, there is always people going in and out of work. right? that you're always going to have. >> but it's a million and a half more than pre—covid and it's a million half more million and a half more pre—covid because, pre—covid because because, i mean, desperate mental mean, there's desperate mental health problems. >> and there's because

>> right? and there's because the nhs has massive waiting lists. so you have a knee problem and the knee problem ends up you have secondary diet, you have type 2 diabetes because because you know you're not mobile , you're eating too much, mobile, you're eating too much, you're depressed . you're depressed. >> so you don't think that number can come down and therefore you're and you think therefore you're and you think the party is quite happy the labour party is quite happy with sort of numbers. with with these sort of numbers. >> they'll always. >> i think they'll always. no, no mean, are record no. i mean, these are record numbers. they are triple pre 19. >> you . >> you. >> you. >> yeah. but i mean i thought the whole point about people like you, i mean what it showed of brexit was to back of brexit was to take back control of our borders. >> yeah. yeah >> yeah. yeah >> and they've the to stop >> and they've done the to stop eu from coming and eu eu citizens from coming and so, what do we do so, so but but what do we do about the fact that there aren't enough carers? right? what do we do do about there aren't enough. there aren't enough fruit pickers. i mean, that is a real problem. and i have to say, the farmers do not want english people picking their fruit. they not useless . not useless. >> just finally, before we go to

the weather day, to the next election , may summer or october, election, may summer or october, i think it's going to be october because i think the polls won't change, which is what they want. >> that's what yesterday was about, was was an election bribe. but i'm not sure it's going to work. wow i think it might even be january, honestly , might even be january, honestly, they might. >> they'll be christmas . >> they'll be like christmas. >> they'll be like christmas. >> at christmas elections. >> they'll be like john major in 97. goodness me. as long as possible. scarlett thank you very much indeed for her thoughts there. >> don't go anywhere, folks. coming stay to the nation coming up, stay to the nation with jacob rees—mogg. first, with jacob rees—mogg. but first, it's weather evening. it's the weather evening. >> i'm alex deakin . this is your >> i'm alex deakin. this is your latest update from the latest weather update from the met gb news. the met office for gb news. the winds picking up out there. a blustery and cold day tomorrow, but most places will see some sunny spells. the reason for the change are a cold front is pushing south ahead of it, still quite mild behind it, very windy and colder air arriving so and much colder air arriving so strong, the winds , we actually strong, the winds, we actually have a met office yellow warning in place across shetland, but

across orkney and the north—east of very blustery of the mainland, very blustery with showers coming in with wintry showers coming in here. a little bit of snow is possible. a little bit of rain will away from england and will clear away from england and wales. will dry , wales. most places will be dry, turning pretty chilly, but temperatures holding up in the south—west, actually here south—west, but actually here dunng south—west, but actually here during temperatures during tomorrow, temperatures will tend to fall away. we'll start with cloud and still some patchy rain over maybe north wales . some showers just hitting wales. some showers just hitting parts of aberdeenshire and then the east coast of england , the east coast of england, especially norfolk, seeing the odd shower . especially norfolk, seeing the odd shower. but for most especially norfolk, seeing the odd shower . but for most places odd shower. but for most places it's dry. for many it'll be fine and sunny, but it ain't going to be warm with temperatures in single figures. chilly day and single figures. a chilly day and feeling particularly cold in the east with this brisk wind that wind will only slowly ease dunng wind will only slowly ease during saturday, but it should ease away, as will any showers , ease away, as will any showers, as just hitting the eastern side of england . and for most, of england. and for most, saturday is also set fair. yes, there will be a frosty start , there will be a frosty start, but then plenty of autumn sunshine lifting the temperatures to between four and

eight celsius, a chilly one ahead. goodbye

>> hello. good evening. >> hello. good evening. >> it's me, jacob rees—mogg on state of the nation tonight. >> last year's record breaking net migration figures have turned out to be an underestimate. 139,000 more people came than previously stated, according to the office for national statistics. revised figures for 2022, plus a provisional 672,000 for 2023, following the chancellor's autumn statement, the government's energy regulator , government's energy regulator, ofgem, has today announced that the energy price cap will be increased further tightening the purse strings of the british public. how could this be remedied ? the disaffection with remedied? the disaffection with traditional politics has produced two surprise results in a week . argentina and the a week. argentina and the netherlands have both . this netherlands have both. this week, elected often week, elected people often described as far right, but certainly eclectic