by >> welcome to patrick christie's tonight . >> welcome to patrick christie's tonight. come on, >> welcome to patrick christie's tonight . come on, everybody. tonight. come on, everybody. >> come on, let's go. >> well, the police do battle with irish citizens. sick of the mass migration madness after children were stabbed. why are politicians more outraged about the reaction than the crime .7 the reaction than the crime? >> those involved brought shame on dublin, brought shame on ireland, and brought shame on their families and themselves . their families and themselves. >> our ordinary people being demonised by being called far right thugs. outrage at the bbc as jewish staff are allegedly banned from going on a demonstration this weekend. but it was all right for others to go on the palestine hate marches and try not to throw something at the telly . at the telly. >> you live on that side? i live on this side and it's cool. don't bring up my dead parents. are you stupid about. oh, you know, it could be your dad. you know, it could be your dad. you know, my dad's dead. you're a

weirdo. am. weirdo. i am. >> ha! ah young people now a whinging grievance generation. it's a new look friday panel. we have got scoop getter extraordinaire , james hale, extraordinaire, james hale, media legend john sergeant, and an opinionated elegance personified stella santaguida . personified stella santaguida. and they are going to kick right off on whether the public have been betrayed due to mass migration. it's patrick christys tonight and it's all go . tonight and it's all go. politicians and establishment media label you and you off, but i actually want your views gb views gb news.com are you sick and tired of being called far right at gb news on twitter? i'll see you after the headlines i >> -- >> good evening. your top stories from the gb newsroom. 13 israeli hostages released by

hamas are back in israel. that's to according the israel defence forces. the israeli military says it's preparing for the next stage of the gaza operation. these pictures show the hostages being transferred in red cross cars via the rafah crossing. more aid is being allowed into gaza, which is expected to continue over the coming days. there was also a further group of thai hostages released by hamas following separate mediation efforts by egypt and qatar. those released today include 13 israelis, some of whom are dual nationals, ten thai citizens and a philippine national. a group of israeli hostages arrived to the hatzerim airbase this evening. they're being taken to hospitals. qatar foreign ministry says 39 palestinian women and children have also been released from israeli prisons as part of the deal israeli prisons as part of the deal. a temporary pause in fighting came into force. this morning, which is expected to for last four days . margalit for last four days. margalit moses . daniel aloni amelia aloni

moses. daniel aloni amelia aloni adina moshe , ohad munda and ruth adina moshe, ohad munda and ruth munda, just six of the israeli hostages who've been released today. a full list of israelis who've been freed has been released by the prime minister's office. they include one male and range in age from 85 to as young as just five. the israeli prime minister, benjamin netanyahu, has said we're committed to the return of all of our hostages. the uk's foreign secretary, lord david cameron , has said it's a huge cameron, has said it's a huge relief to see hostages return today. relief to see hostages return today . elsewhere, 34 people have today. elsewhere, 34 people have been arrested after riots and violent scenes in dublin . violent scenes in dublin. yesterday, a cleanup was underway this morning in the city centre after cars were set alight and shops were looted. a number of police officers were also injured . the violence was also injured. the violence was sparked after three children and a woman were stabbed close to a school in the city yesterday . a school in the city yesterday. a five year old girl is said to be in a serious condition . oscar

in a serious condition. oscar pistorius will be freed from prison on parole in january, almost 11 years after killing his girlfriend , reeva steenkamp, his girlfriend, reeva steenkamp, on valentine's day in 2013. the former paralympic champion, who's now 37, claimed that he fired the gun through a bathroom door after mistaking his partner for an intruder, saying he feared for his safety. he was initially jailed for five years, but an appeals saw him sent back for six years . in 2016, less for six years. in 2016, less than half of the 15 year minimum term that had been sought by prosecutors . and finally, rishi prosecutors. and finally, rishi sunakis prosecutors. and finally, rishi sunak is facing a backlash from senior members of his own party after new figures revealed migration is at an all time high. reports suggest mps are demanding to action reduce the number of people coming legally to the uk. net migration peaked at 745,000 last year. that's a record high year with gb news across the uk on tv , in your

across the uk on tv, in your car, on digital radio. now it's back to . patrick back to. patrick >> let me be very clear. the thing that brings real shame on western europe is politicians letting mentally deranged, violent thugs from other countries wander in and commit violent crimes. not how ordinary members of the public respond to those crimes . members of the public respond to those crimes. but i am going to say this now and get out the way. also want to be way. and i also want to be equally clear on this. do not equally clear on this. i do not condone the torching of a migrant or general migrant hotel or general looting, i certainly do not looting, and i certainly do not condone racism . now, condone genuine racism. now, there didn't seem to be too much media outrage when there were those mostly peaceful protests after george floyd's death. and there has been a near total mainstream media blackout of the reality utter hate on reality of the utter hate on display at some of the pro—police stein marches. but yesterday ireland , a man yesterday in ireland, a man believed reported to be believed widely reported to be an algerian allegedly stabbed multiple people, including children, after years and years of being ignored over their

fears about mass migration and illegal immigration, the people of dublin said enough is enough. and they took to the streets. now, clearly there was some incredibly unsavoury behaviour there , but for me the reaction there, but for me the reaction to that behaviour tells you exactly why they kicked off like they immediately. the police they did immediately. the police and media called them far right and media called them far right and then the irish leader, leo varadkar, who looks like the kind of man who still sucks his thumb when nobody's watching it, expressed more outrage at the pubuc expressed more outrage at the public than he did about a man who allegedly stabbed kids in his capital city yesterday evening . evening. >> some people decided that the best way to respond to this terrible attack to take to terrible attack was to take to the streets of dublin and try to terrify, intimidate and loot and destroy their first reaction to a five year old child being stabbed was to burn our city, attack its businesses and assault our gardai. these people claim to be defending irish citizens , and yet they put in citizens, and yet they put in danger the newest and most

vulnerable and most innocent people . those involved brought people. those involved brought shame on dublin, brought shame on ireland and brought shame on their families and themselves . their families and themselves. >> why do we think he did that? well i think because it gets him off the hook. it shifts the focus onto the protesters and away from the root cause of why people are absolutely livid, because of idiots like him. idiots, right across europe, idiots in downing street have betrayed people when they say things like we must come together and not let hate win . together and not let hate win. what these calculating, narcissistic individuals are really saying is, please don't hate me for the decisions that i've made . and they desecrated i've made. and they desecrated the very notion of a nation state. they've systematically ignored democratic vote after democratic vote. they've compromised safety of their compromised the safety of their citizens. they've demonised compromised the safety of their citizercitizens ve demonised compromised the safety of their citizercitizens as demonised compromised the safety of their citizercitizens as they've monised compromised the safety of their citizercitizens as they've used sed those citizens as they've used the media to help them do it. and when people die or hurt and when people die or get hurt as a result of their decisions, they will either try to pass restrictions that people restrictions that mean people like report it , like me can't report on it, which does and has

which does happen and has happened. or they'll try to distract you by demonising the people who are very angry about it. but the reality is, in my view, it's their fault when incidents like this happen , i incidents like this happen, i think it's the fault of political leaders for allowing situations like this to occur , situations like this to occur, but they can't call everyone far right. not everyone . as gb news right. not everyone. as gb news regular and telegraph columnist allison pearson tweeted in july, middle aged irish women were protesting in dublin about 60 undocumented asylum seekers in their community. they were angry when they were accused of racism. the women said they were trying to keep their daughters and granddaughters safe. women's and granddaughters safe. women's and children's is far and children's safety is far more important than maintaining the lie that allowing young males different males from very different cultures into a western society does not pose any dangers to women. just saying so women. it just does. saying so should not make you racist. blame the government . let's blame the government. let's allow to happen. those are allow it to happen. those are her words. of course, when you lose the middle aged women, when you round them up, it's game over. you round them up, it's game over . the genie you round them up, it's game over. the genie is out of the bottle. now in argentina, a

maverick, anti—establishment bloke has won the bloke has just won in the netherlands , geert wilders, netherlands, geert wilders, a man who wants to ban mosques as one. it's he's gone to the right. the afd in germany is on the charge. marine le pen has support amongst the youth in france. orban well, he's france. viktor orban well, he's got a grip on hungary. i mean, i could go on. clearly divisions have massively opened up in the uk in recent weeks and we all know what's happening in dublin at really is at the moment. it really is quite simple actually. you reap what you sow , but i'm going to what you sow, but i'm going to be returning for a big clash on this in about 20 minutes time, a bit less than that actually. i'm going to be asking whether or not it's right call people not it's right to call people far right for going out, expressing or if, expressing their views, or if, as people people have as people do think people have gone and there is a gone too far and there is a massive undercurrent of that there, what you there, let me know what you think. vaiews@gbnews.com. we also ignore other think. vaiews@gbnews.com. we alsc story ignore other think. vaiews@gbnews.com. we alsc story which nore other think. vaiews@gbnews.com. we alsc story which no about other think. vaiews@gbnews.com. we alsc story which no about the er think. vaiews@gbnews.com. we alsc story which no about the net big story which is about the net migration figures and immigration in general. so let's get the thoughts of my panel. i'm joined tonight by former labour adviser stella labour party adviser stella sant'egidio, political correspondent at the spectator,

james heal , correspondent at the spectator, james heal, and the bbc's former chief political correspondent john sergeant, strong views right across the board here. look, james, i'll start with you. have brits been betrayed when it comes to immigration? do you think has certainly >> i think there has certainly been of trust and this been a breach of trust and this is dates back 30 years. >> for the last 30 years, every successful party in the country who's election has who's won an election has promised manifesto, to promised to their manifesto, to reduce migration. and if it's gone and so i gone up for 30 years. and so i think frankly , you know, think that, frankly, you know, there need be talking there is a need to be talking about truths right now and about hard truths right now and trade . and that's something trade offs. and that's something that hasn't happened. i was surprised to see today boris johnson writing in his column that cap for high that the salary cap for a high school should go to school migrant should go up to £40,000. course, when £40,000. he was, of course, when he office, reduced it he was in office, reduced it from 30,000 to 26,000. so i think that there's often needs to that politicians were to be said that politicians were eurosceptic in opposition and then europhile office. i then europhile in office. and i think of think the same is true of migration well. migration as well. >> stella, come to >> okay, stella, i'll come to you this. now. do you think >> okay, stella, i'll come to you afteris. now. do you think >> okay, stella, i'll come to you afteris. nohave you think >> okay, stella, i'll come to you afteris. nohave voted hink >> okay, stella, i'll come to you afteris. nohave voted and that after brits have voted and voted for things to do voted and voted for things to do with reducing net migration and the to rise, the numbers just seem to rise, i'm waiting for the latest one to be revised up. actually that

we have betrayed. we have been betrayed. >> they have been >> yeah, they have been betrayed. they have, betrayed. frankly, they have, because that because the politicians that they voted for and they have voted for time and time told them time again, they have told them it top priority to it is our top priority to decrease immigration. and then it is our top priority to decregoe immigration. and then it is our top priority to decrego aroundiration. and then it is our top priority to decrego around and n. and then it is our top priority to decrego around and n. andon'tn it is our top priority to decrego around and n. andon't do they go around and they don't do that. reason they don't that. and the reason they don't do course, because do that, of course, is because they're not being honest with they're not being honest with the uk government the public. the uk government cannot reduce immigration because immigrants to because they need immigrants to fill the understaffed sectors that the british economy depends on. in the budget last year in in not last year, in march , in not last year, in march, jeremy hunt revised the visa requirements and he added five new types of construct workers that are allowed to come in and work in the uk. these are again not highly specialised workers . not highly specialised workers. there's a lot of people would say and, and they are not being honest to the public about the fact that they simply cannot afford to not have immigration coming over, especially when we are rates being are seeing fertility rates being so low this is the thing you so low in this is the thing you cannot , my anyway, stand cannot, in my view anyway, stand at the dispatch box and dish out an autumn statement that is all about growth . about growth.

>> okay. and then simultaneously be honest and go right. we're going to massively we're going to massively try to reduce net migration because they haven't figured yet. they figured that out yet. they haven't figured out the way to get and also reduce get us growth and also reduce migration. you migration. john, i'll go to you on you think on this. look, you think betrayed is bit too strong, do betrayed is a bit too strong, do you? well no, i just i'm always careful that. careful about that. >> you know, your about >> you know, your casual about talking dismissing people talking about dismissing people for saying hatred is a problem. you're dismissing people for saying , you know, betrayal is saying, you know, betrayal is one of those words. these are very sensitive issues . and for very sensitive issues. and for people involved, often they want to do two things. they want to say, i personally am not against immigrants , but i wish we could immigrants, but i wish we could have a fair and sensible system of immigration. now, those are the people who i think are in the people who i think are in the centre of british politics, and i suppose people like me are anxious to protect those people and not then think, oh no , they and not then think, oh no, they should live up to their points. all the points you're making, you know, they sound simple and

straightforward, but they're not in got to in reality, you've got to confront complicated confront a very complicated situation. confront a very complicated situatin 1. confront a very complicated situatin many areas as the right in many areas as the british economy desperately needs immigrants. there was one figure know there were lots of figures you can give, but one figures you can give, but one figure i thought was interesting from the health secretary who said, moment said, look, at the moment they've vacancies of 100,000 they've got vacancies of 100,000 vacancies in the health service . vacancies in the health service. well, now you don't say, oh, i don't want we'll do let's stop immigration entirely. let's have a let's let's make quite clear today what we're going to do, because these are these are very complicated issues. and one thing leads to another. and the idea that you can just simply say, oh, no, stop all this. and your comments about dublin, it's all very well saying, oh , he's all very well saying, oh, he's an guy , as far as an algerian. this guy, as far as we know, who's who's not been charged. other point. charged. that's the other point. but it's allegedly. absolutely no, say why didn't the no, but don't say why didn't the turks and what turks say what he was and what was going on? no, i didn't say. but you did . you said, why isn't

but you did. you said, why isn't he explaining that guy is he explaining that this guy is algerian? he didn't say he was algerian? he didn't say he was algerian he's an irish algerian because he's an irish citizen. >> look , i take your point, but >> look, i take your point, but i am really seriously going to correct you. i did not say that all these all these things that you're just trying to simplify. all these all these things that you nojust trying to simplify. all these all these things that you no ,|st trying to simplify. all these all these things that you no , theyling to simplify. all these all these things that you no , they don't. simplify. all these all these things that you no , they don't. theylify. all these all these things that you no , they don't. they don't >> no, they don't. they don't help . you what you help matters. you say what you do, do is you increase the chances. >> i'm sorry of hatred. i massively disagree because of james, the straight out the traps. people go on the streets and they go the sky news were at it right protest, far right it far right protest, far right protest, far right protest. you demonise people going out demonise people for going out and saying, hang on a minute, we are very, very worried about situation. very well situation. so it's all very well and say. maybe i'm and good to say. maybe i'm being and good to say. maybe i'm being a bit simplistic, but really a bit simplistic, but i really do being are do think people are being are being slated at the moment. >> well, i think there's obviously a place for legitimate concerns. i mean, i'm too not familiar been familiar with what's been happening in terms of dublin situation. think returning to situation. i think returning to that the question that to the question around migration, with the migration, i do think with the dutch election this week , it is dutch election this week, it is a of the potent force a reminder of the potent force of anti—immigration politics and

thatis of anti—immigration politics and that is going to be a big factor in the elections. the coming up the following year. obviously you've got what's happening in germany as well. and i think it's going to be very interesting when mr farage returns the jungle see returns from the jungle to see what of right what happens in terms of a right wing a threat to wing party on the as a threat to the conservatives. do you think that he's got big ambitions of actually being at the forefront of think of that, then? i think yeah, i certainly i think speaking certainly do. i think speaking to few ago to him once a few months ago and he he he had one he said he he said he had one last fight left him, i'd last fight left in him, so i'd be interested. >> one last fight. you know, the man political man who broke two political parties, like joseph parties, perhaps like joseph chamberlain ago, does chamberlain 100 years ago, does that concern look, that concern you, sir? look, you're from left. you're obviously from the left. okay? former labour party adviser. does it concern you that this country's lack of ability to get a grip on migration? i the way migration? and i think the way people feel, which is lied to and demonised, not going to and demonised, i'm not going to back away from that could actually lead to something that you even opposed you maybe are even more opposed to a nigel farage to someone like a nigel farage coming sweeping the board. >> yes. you know what, patrick? >> yes. you know what, patrick? >> i will agree with you on that. i worried. i am that. yes, i am worried. i am worried politicians worried that politicians inability unwillingness worried that politicians

inability tomwillingness worried that politicians inability tomwveryjness worried that politicians inability tomwvery honest and sometimes to be very honest and clear root of a clear about the root of a problem does lead to people wanting to vote for extremes . it wanting to vote for extremes. it it leads to people being feeling patronised and manipulated . and patronised and manipulated. and i think the main problem with immigration in the uk is that you have a conservative party that for many, many years for decades has lumped all kinds of immigrants together in one group and hasn't wanted to differentiate. so you have legal immigrants, asylum seekers , immigrants, asylum seekers, refugees, illegal immigrants , refugees, illegal immigrants, they are all lumped up in one group and in one target. and you are convincing the public that this is the enemy . this is the this is the enemy. this is the reason behind all of your problems. this is the reason why you have cost of living crisis. this is the reason why you don't have a house to live in. this is the reason why your energy have a house to live in. this is the retare| why your energy have a house to live in. this is the retare goinglour energy have a house to live in. this is the retare going upr energy have a house to live in. this is the retare going up andergy are prices are going up and you are trying to get them away from. >> truth to the >> is there some truth to the fact, that people fact, though, john, that people might be quite within their rights well, do rights to think, well, we do have housing am not have a housing crisis. i am not better off per capita the better off per capita at the moment was before. and, moment than i was before. and, you know, mass immigration has

got something to do with that. oh, sure. >> no, it's extremely damaging for conservative for the conservative party and for the conservative party and for conservative government. for the conservative party and for ibeenrvative government. for the conservative party and for ibeen intive government. for the conservative party and for ibeen in power>vernment. for the conservative party and for ibeen in power for nment. for the conservative party and for ibeen in power for 131ent. they've been in power for 13 years. why haven't they taken an approach is more sensible approach which is more sensible and hasn't actually reduced immigration, which is what most people so i agree with all people want? so i agree with all that. but mistake is to that. but the mistake is to imagine in when you're talking about the election and the way elections work in this country, they're almost all they must always depend upon winning the centre ground . now, people may centre ground. now, people may be cross about this because they like, oh , i'll sort all this like, oh, i'll sort all this out. the idea that you could just go into an election with one policy about immigration and that that would and you then become prime minister and there would then be members of the cabinet. that is very, very unlikely. >> well, it's really interesting that you say that, because later on the show, we're going to on in the show, we're going to be fascinating stuff be having some fascinating stuff going on europe, going across on across europe, argentina as well, be fair. argentina as well, to be fair. but across europe, you look at the wilders, the likes of geert wilders, etcetera, to etcetera, which i don't want to label just a single issue label him as just a single issue

politician, but i mean, heck politician, but i mean, a heck of a of his focus is on of a lot of his focus is on islam. right? and you could islam. right? and so you could argue is a single argue that maybe is a single issue that issue politician in that sense has won over could has won over there. could something happen? something like that ever happen? >> have exactly different system. >> exactly . and this is the >> exactly. and this is the thing. but are we oh, here we go. are we going to end with thing. but are we oh, here we go.anyway?]oing to end with thing. but are we oh, here we go.anyway? we'llto end with thing. but are we oh, here we go. anyway? we'll parkd with thing. but are we oh, here we go. anyway? we'll park that with thing. but are we oh, here we go. anyway? we'll park that forh pr anyway? we'll park that for now. patrick christys now. this is patrick christys tonight coming up this tonight on gbs. coming up this houn tonight on gbs. coming up this hour, columnist ross hour, sun columnist allie ross says star. nyla says that i'm a celeb star. nyla rose is member of the rose is a member of the grievance generation . so our grievance generation. so our young offend far too young people offend far too easily. and this will be interesting. are the bbc right to ban jewish members of staff from going to a protest, a demonstration against anti—semitism ? there is anti—semitism? there is a concern that they allowed people to go to some of the pro—palestine protests will have a bit of back and forth on that. but next in the clash, herman kelly to head with kelly goes head to head with lisa on whether the lisa mckenzie on whether the police and politicians were right to label rioters in dublin. far right. it's got a lot going in the inbox. it's got a lot of you going online.

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weekend at 3 pm. on gb news, the people's channel, britain's news channel . news channel. >> it's time now for the clash . >> it's time now for the clash. so this week in dublin, five people were left injured in a knife attack, including three children and two adults. the attack provoked riots in the capital city of the republic of ireland last night, where people were seen looting shops. vehicles were set on fire. >> yesterday's events were just

terrible . in between the awful terrible. in between the awful attack which happened at 130 in the afternoon and then the subsequent disorder riot. and looting in the city. inner city centre. it'sjust looting in the city. inner city centre. it's just disgraceful . centre. it's just disgraceful. scenes from start to finish . scenes from start to finish. overall, we have 34 arrests and last night police branded the protesters far right, as did the media as well. >> but is this right? let's get the reaction now from the president of the irish freedom party , herman kelly. plus, party, herman kelly. plus, academic and ethnographer lisa mckenzie. welcome both. thank you very much. and herman, i'll start with you. is it right to just label people far right? i mean, was there some truth to that ? well i will tell you, just that? well i will tell you, just look, is it the part of the police commissioner to give marks out of ten and to give his opinion on the political views of different people, especially

when people weren't involved ? when people weren't involved? >> i'd like the irish state. i would i would argue is incredibly authoritarian . this incredibly authoritarian. this is a state which is looking to introduce anti—free speech laws at the minute, even though there's libel laws and the laws against incitement to violence, etcetera, already on the books . etcetera, already on the books. and secondly, this is a government which only two and a half years ago was in like draconian law lockdown laws which imposed restrictions on travel and going to work and seeing your family on many, many people. so i would say, look, they want to shut down the debate. they know they have no arguments in favour of open borders and mass unvetted immigration. so they want to shut down debate by calling people names , but they don't people names, but they don't have arguments to justify their position . position. >> okay. now, lisa, i'll come to you on this, because i suppose the argument would be that politicians recognise that they've really badly messed up

and potentially endanger people's lives and create a situation where people don't feel safe and now they're trying to shift the focus and say, if you disagree with this, you're far right to deflect from their own shortcomings. i don't think i don't think you subscribe to that view, though, lisa, do you? >> well , i don't that view, though, lisa, do you? >> well, i don't think >> um, well, i don't think governments and politicians are actually that aware of any damage that they're doing in any country actually , i think what country actually, i think what is happening is we've got neo liberalism that is perhaps coming to an end and we have definitely got , uh, because of definitely got, uh, because of the lack of class politics that perhaps we used to have in our politicians is gone. what we have got now is we've got identity politics and we definitely have the far right organising all over europe. that is a fact . the far right are is a fact. the far right are organising all over europe and what they are doing is they are organising around working class issues and particular things like housing and homeless ness.

now that's because the left has sort of abandoned working class people and abandoned the issues of working class people . but we of working class people. but we still need to be on just about the far right who are organising . we've seen it in holland this .we've seen it in holland this week. we're seeing it all over europe. you said yourself actually that you can pinpoint parts of the far right, which are definitely politically organising , so we can't deny organising, so we can't deny that that's happening . that that's happening. >> okay, herman, come back to that then . you know, the far that then. you know, the far right have been mobilising maybe in and the far right are in ireland and the far right are mobilising around europe. that's, that's, that's the view that there . that we just heard there. >> i feel like the psychologist , >> i feel like the psychologist, you know, that you've seen the cartoon where the guy says, ah, the far right and are they in the far right and are they in the room with now as they're the room with us now as they're talking to a patient and these people the so—called left, people like the so—called left, they have abandoned the working class decades ago . now it's all class decades ago. now it's all about the working class and their agenda . it's all about their agenda. it's all about de—man have been the women have

penises who can go into the toilet . uh, what colour are you? toilet. uh, what colour are you? what do you call your dog? it's all, it's all silly stuff that they that they, they talk about now. but i will tell you what that , uh, in now. but i will tell you what that, uh, in regard to working class, it's people and it's parties like the irish freedom party who are standing up for working people who go to work in the morning and they're sick to the morning and they're sick to the back teeth of watching like , the back teeth of watching like, like, would you believe the population of ireland has gone up population of ireland has gone ”p by population of ireland has gone up by 42, 1.5 population of ireland has gone up by 42,1.5 million in less than 30 years. and irish people who get up and go to work are watching people who have never who've never contributed a cent to the country coming in, lying about their identity , saying about their identity, saying that they don't have a passport, not revealing their any criminal history, that they may have , and history, that they may have, and getting free house, free medical care, free welfare . working care, free welfare. working people are saying what's in this for me and why should they? why

should i be party last in my own country? that's a bit unfair. all right. >> i see you shaking your >> i can see you shaking your head there, lisa. go on. >> no, listen, you know, i come from working from a working class family. i come from mining community. we come from a mining community. we i remember the 1970s and the early 80s when the far right was mobilising in our communities around things like homelessness, like housing, poor housing, like poor wages , us not being able to poor wages, us not being able to get decent jobs. i remember the far right mobilising it was awful. it was not good. >> well, is this like that talk? so i'll i'll stick with you, lisa. you know, that's important then. so you remember, you know what the far right as it was known then i mean is this like that then. because if it isn't then , you know, come on. then, you know, come on. >> listen i remember the national front. i've got a mixed race, remember being spat race, son. i remember being spat at in the street because my son was mixed race. and listen, i am working class. i don't want working class. i don't want working class. i don't want working class people to be

hoodwinked by the far right who have no interest in working class issues . they have got class issues. they have got interested in their own ideology . as i also say that the left are not any better either. so for me, this is about class politics and i'm interested in what happens to working class people and i don't want the far right hoodwinking them because they're the only game in town. >> the one thing, the one thing i will. well will absolutely agree on. there is a lot of this agree on. there is a lot of this a lot of this comes down to a fund, a mental lack of good leadership. right across the board. right. that is board. right. and that is actually what's heck of actually what's behind a heck of actually what's behind a heck of a this. but herman, a lot of this. but herman, you're itching. go on. let's get let's get down to the nitty gritty here. >> there's people >> there's about 100 people maximum ireland who would be maximum in ireland who would be classed as far right, who like skinheads, hitler skinheads, who like adolf hitler and are obsessed by jews. there's only about 100 people in the country who like the whole country who are like that. culturally very that. it's culturally very different from a lot of europe. and that's why probably the whole thing about immigration is coming. we're going to come in late to the game about the

consequences. i will tell consequences. but i will tell you what, look, we have had all this discussion, not a cent about the cause of what happened last night , about the cause of what happened last night, which is that five people were stabbed in the middle of the day and in a street in dublin by an algerian . street in dublin by an algerian. and i don't know, was he here for two days or 20 years? it doesn't matter. and i'm going to just just and just say just just come in and just say just just come in and just say just important say, yeah, just important to say, yeah, i get i get sentiment what get i get the sentiment of what you're get i get the sentiment of what youand anyone who's got eyes in >> and anyone who's got eyes in their has been on their head who has been on social or who has been social media or who has been reading the media will will quite be quite possibly that will not be the heard the first time they've heard that. is important for me that. but it is important for me to do my job say this to do my job and say this individual is alleged and he individual is all alleged and he has been charged has not been charged with anything right. that's anything. right. so that's that's but but the that's that's true. but but the wider point there, herman, the wider point there, herman, the wider point, i think, is that people ireland people potentially in ireland have as though they've not have felt as though they've not been listened to. ordinary people , you know, middle aged people, you know, middle aged women who are who are out on the street doing march saying we street doing a march saying we don't a load of don't really want a load of young hotel in our young men in our hotel in our local and they've been

local area. and they've been called far right. and think called far right. and i think that's i think that's really wound herman like wound people up. herman like these rallies . these rallies. >> they had over 300 rallies in ireland last year. >> they had over 300 rallies in ireland last year . they're all ireland last year. they're all very peaceful , no ireland last year. they're all very peaceful, no problems. but the people who went there very often, mothers with buggies , often, mothers with buggies, ordinary people , there was no ordinary people, there was no kind of you would think, oh, these look like a like a tasty set of people walking along with boots and stuff like that. there was no people like that. and yet all he did was get called names and all they had to do was take accusations from the left wing press and. all right, you know, we've had a number of murders that the rate of murder and sexual assault has gone up very sharply in the last in the last number of years. like the population has increased. that's a good point . a good point. >> that's a good point for me to bnng >> that's a good point for me to bring lisa in for the final word on this, herman, because because lisa, is there some truth to that, which is if people feel fundamentally unsafe and a driving behind why they

driving factor behind why they feel is because a lot of feel unsafe is because a lot of new people have just arrived in their local community and some crimes been committed. and, crimes have been committed. and, you does really make crimes have been committed. and, you far does really make crimes have been committed. and, you far right>es really make crimes have been committed. and, you far right>es beingeally make you far right for being concerned that? you far right for being con i arned that? you far right for being coni think that? you far right for being coni think people 1at? you far right for being coni think people are concerned >> i think people are concerned about communities. about their communities. absolutely can you blame i mean, working class people are also immigrant people as well . but immigrant people as well. but what can we really blame ? you what can we really blame? you know, people coming in who were working class, who have got very little power? can you blame them for what is happening in our country ? we have no bus country? we have no bus services. we've got no housing, housing. we're in the worst housing. we're in the worst housing crisis since victorian times. we need to blame the right people for this and for me, the right people are those in government. okay >> all right. look, really strong stuff from both of you that i've enjoyed it. we could have carried that on for a lot longer, we're we're bang out longer, but we're we're bang out of time. so you very much. of time. so thank you very much. hope chat both again hope to chat to you both again soon. the president of soon. that was the president of the irish freedom party, herman kelly. and kelly. plus academic and ethnographer kelly. plus academic and ethnograpido you with? look, who do you agree with? okay. police okay. should the police in dubun

okay. should the police in dublin called rioters? far dublin have called rioters? far right. the artist right. elliot on x, the artist formerly twitter says, formerly known as twitter says, of not. it's completely of course not. it's completely ridiculous. rioting over stabbing is not a far stabbing children is not a far right position. chris also says a protest by concerned citizens slashed parents. et cetera was hijacked by a tiny minority of gangsters and thieves who wanted to steal, attack police and nothing far right at all. alison says the papers called them far left. they were angry. dubliners oh, there we go. all right. well, your verdict is in now. so 6.5% of you think that the police were right to call the rioters. far right. i mean, a whopping 93.5% of you say that the rioters were, in fact, not far right . so the rioters were, in fact, not far right. so in this sense, anyway, the people have spoken. this is patrick christys tonight right here on gb news. coming up , sun columnist ali ross says that i'm a celeb star. is a member of a grievance generation. so what does that really mean? well, are young people offended too easily? and if they've got nothing to be offended about, will they find something to offended about something to be offended about and your life

and then make your life miserable? they miserable? i suspect they actually we will also have actually will. we will also have our i'm celebrity verdict. day our i'm a celebrity verdict. day six, okay no doubt six, down under. okay no doubt there will be some interesting clips of nigel. hopefully he's got clothes on this time. got his clothes on this time. plus winner of the third plus the winner of the third ever series in 2004, kerry ever series back in 2004, kerry katona. she joins us after 10 pm. with some incredible early revealing information about nigel farage. but next, are the bbc right to ban staff from protests against anti—semitism ? protests against anti—semitism? the broadcaster's former chief political correspondent john sergeant, who you heard from a moment ago , he's going go moment ago, he's going to go into for his old boss, but into bat for his old boss, but author journalist emma woolf author and journalist emma woolf . well, not. we're going . well, she's not. we're going to very shortly. to debate that very shortly. don't move or you'll out

monday to thursdays from six till 930 . till 930. >> welcome back. >> welcome back. >> it's been reported that the bbc has banned staff from attending a protest against antisemitism this sunday. now, to according the daily mail sources, bbc senior staff who work in news and current affairs were march doesn't were told that the march doesn't come commemorative or come under commemorative or celebratory events that they are allowed to attend . critics claim allowed to attend. critics claim the staff, however , who the bbc staff, however, who attended recent pro—palestinian protests. so is there a double standard? here are the bbc right to ban staff from protest against anti—semitism? women are in the studio is former bbc chief political correspondent john sergeant and author and broadcaster emma wolfe. emma, i will start with you on this. the suspicion here, the allegation, i suppose, is that staff at the

bbc weren't on the pro—palestine marches and not a lot was done about that . but if you wanted to about that. but if you wanted to go on the air campaign against anti—semitism, march, then you've basically been banned . you've basically been banned. how do you feel about that ? how do you feel about that? >> you couldn't make this up. i mean, mishandled mean, the bbc have mishandled the gaza situation from the israeli gaza situation from the israeli gaza situation from the beginning. patrick it's almost like they've employed someone mishandle this. do someone to mishandle this. do you very start of you remember the very start of it days after that ? we it a few days after that? we were discussing it. there refusal to call to hamas terrorists, which just seemed completely sort of outrageous to most people to this. what is controversial about a march on sunday is not even a march . it's sunday is not even a march. it's a show from the british, the british public to show the jewish community that they're safe here, that we value them, that we want them, that they're part of our country. it's a show of it's a show of , you know, of it's a show of, you know, opposition to anti—semitism . opposition to anti—semitism. it's not a demo. it's not a rally. it will be peaceful. it won't kick off. the bbc had no

problem with with lots of their staff going on pro—palestine marches. whether or not you think they were hate filled or not, whether whatever you think of marches, what is of those marches, what is controversial about these is about sunday's march . about sunday's march. >> okay, john, i think you'll find that the really it's much simpler than that. if you as i did i worked for the bbc news division for 30 years. we knew we had all sorts of feelings before when i was a student, i would go on demonstration days. but the idea as a member of the bbc news staff, i would go on controversial demonstrations of any kind or marches or any sort of obvious indication as to what my feelings were about all sorts of issues . now my feelings were about all sorts of issues. now you my feelings were about all sorts of issues . now you have of issues. now you have a responsibility . you work for the responsibility. you work for the bbc. it's not a matter of are you saying sorry, but can i just finish the point? it's not a matter of just saying, oh, well, ihave matter of just saying, oh, well, i have freedom of speech . i'm a i have freedom of speech. i'm a citizen. it. like, citizen. i can do it. i'm like, no, you work for the bbc. the bbc has perfectly rules bbc has perfectly clear rules about demonstrations not about demonstrations and not getting involved in

controversial affairs. this will be controversial. i'm sorry, but it be okay. it will be okay. >> you saying firstly that >> are you saying firstly that none of journalists, those none of those journalists, those senior news reporters, would have on pro—palestinian marches? >> i don't know . marches? >> i don't know. i mean, i've i left the bbc 20 years ago. so, you know , i could certainly go you know, i could certainly go on these demonstrations. it's not a matter of purdah. but if you organisation you work for an organisation that works in its very controversial areas and remember all what is john what is controversial now look , the controversial now look, the people that i know and the people that i know and the people i worked with for so many years, spent days dealing years, we spent our days dealing with controversy. >> so what is controversial about standing against anti—semitism is , no, i don't anti—semitism is, no, i don't want to be sort of sarcastic , want to be sort of sarcastic, but there's a very controversial series of incidents that's happening in the middle east at the moment. >> the bbc is trying to report those fairly and truthfully . those fairly and truthfully. now, you say, oh, they're now, you may say, oh, they're not, or why aren't they doing this? or why aren't they just shouting, terrorist shouting, this is a terrorist regime, aren't making regime, why aren't they making a judgement ? regime, why aren't they making a judgement? the bbc is an international news organisation.

it has half a billion, half a billion listeners and viewers across the world. the bbc is not you and me or a government or a member of a political party or a writer or an author. no, the bbc is a news organisation trying to be the bbc state that opposition to racism is a fundamental democratic principle. >> so in this case, opposition to anti—semitism . if racism is to anti—semitism. if racism is wrong , then what is what is wrong, then what is what is wrong, then what is what is wrong with standing against anti—semitism? there's nothing controversial. and why john? no, but don't laugh. why because you tell me. why is gary lineker one of their star presenters ? of their star presenters? >> this is an important point, actually. >> why is gary lineker, one of their star presenters , allowed their star presenters, allowed to express his views on all of these issues? he endorsed a video which claimed that israel are engaged in textbook genocide . and if that's not controversial , tell me what is sure. >> well, as far as i know, gary

lineker doesn't work for the news division, which is where i work. the difference between me and quite considerable. and him is quite considerable. i met him recently said i do met him recently and i said i do hope is over you hope when this row is over you cannot claim victory. so my view on gary lineker is perfectly clear be doing. clear what he should be doing. he involved in he should not be involved in controversial activities . his controversial activities. his that's i don't have any doubt about that at all. as far as the members of the staff who are working day on news working night and day on news bulletins, some of them risking their lives to get the news back, don't tell me, a, that they realise that this is they don't realise that this is controversial because of course it's controversial. all these issues at the are very issues at the moment are very high level controversial activities. you may think , oh, activities. you may think, oh, people just wander down the street shouting , that's not street shouting, that's not controversy, that's people expressing their views so that you can say that about all sorts of things. if you work. is of things. if you work. this is a different you have a different thing. if you have certain obligate certain obvious obligate actions, that's all carry them out. okay. and go on the march on sunday is not about that. >> it's not about the controversy. about controversy. it's not about that. about taking that. it's not about taking sides. with you . it's an

sides. i agree with you. it's an incredibly complex incredibly difficult, complex debate. and many of us feel very, very split. this is not a controversial. no, this this march is not. >> so it's a not about taking sides. >> it's about standing with our jewish brothers and sisters. on sunday. >> and i hope of being anti—semitic about you, john. >> no, but it's not about you. but the point is, keep bringing it back to you. >> the issue if i was to go back on the bbc staff, i wouldn't >> the issue if i was to go back on th anyic staff, i wouldn't >> the issue if i was to go back on th any doubts i wouldn't >> the issue if i was to go back on th any doubts i 'all..dn't >> the issue if i was to go back on th any doubts i 'all. in't >> the issue if i was to go back on th any doubts i 'all. i would >> the issue if i was to go back on 1go ny doubts i 'all. i would >> the issue if i was to go back on 1go on doubts i 'all. i would >> the issue if i was to go back on 1go on dodemonstrate would >> the issue if i was to go back on 1go on dodemonstrate in)uld >> the issue if i was to go back on 1go on dodemonstrate in march not go on a demonstrate in march over controversial to over a very controversial to show solidarity our jewish show solidarity with our jewish friends and neighbours. >> by metric . then john, if >> by that metric. then john, if the bbc finds out that members of its news staff, whether that's production staff or presenters or whatever, attend ended any of the ceasefire march or pro—palestine marches in recent weeks, no , not in a news recent weeks, no, not in a news capacity. just as an individual, should they be disciplined? >> well , they should certainly >> well, they should certainly be.the >> well, they should certainly be. the should be be. the matter should be discussed. were they doing? discussed. what were they doing? where were where was the march? what were they saying ? what were they they saying? what were they doing? no, but these people doing? no, no. but these people at the moment,

doing? no, no. but these people at the moment , they've asked at the moment, they've asked their bbc, the bosses in the bbc, they've asked their permission . well, the bbc bosses permission. well, the bbc bosses have then got to give their permission or explain what the position is. they've explained their position. if they're not just free people who wander around, if you work for the bank of england, you don't go on marches about interest rates. you there are lots of it's you know, there are lots of it's a bit more look, i take your point, but it's a little bit more sad how sad that you can't go on a march to show solidarity with friends and with our jewish friends and neighbours . neighbours. >> that's all it is. neighbours. >> forit's all it is. neighbours. >> for 30 all it is. neighbours. >> for 30 years, s. neighbours. >> for 30 years, i obeyed these rules as strictly as i could to the honour and goodness of the bbc. >> all right, now, look, we. we are just going to branch this out because it's not out slightly because it's not just the bbc who have been in hot water over all of this. there this now infamous clip there was this now infamous clip of kay burley , but she initially of kay burley, but she initially got into hot water because it was with the israeli government spokesperson, ellen levi, who joined us last night and did not hold back. flipping out. i don't

know who's doing her pr, but this happened today. >> we have got the shadow chancellor who'll be here as well talk about what she well to talk about what she thinks of what the chancellor said. apparently the government's on an election footing from the start of next year and what is going on with the passages in in the hands of hamas and those palestinian prisoners swap didn't happen was meant to be happening well in just a few hours. >> what's going on yeah we don't know. >> we don't know. maybe it'll happen tomorrow. >> let's hope so . >> let's hope so. >> let's hope so. >> no , i'll give the final word >> no, i'll give the final word to you on this. >> no, i'll give the final word to you on this . how are many to you on this. how are many broadcasters getting this so spectacularly wrong? do you think? >> well, i think it is really, really hard, actually. i think what they're trying to do is be clear what happened on october the 7th, but also reflect what's happening in gaza. so john has a point about that. it's an incredibly , incredibly difficult incredibly, incredibly difficult issue cover in a nuanced way. issue to cover in a nuanced way. however, i think the bbc have got it wrong the start . okay. >> look, both of you, thank you very the

very much. that's exactly the kind that we kind of discussion that we wanted to have. so great stuff. cheers. on cheers. right. coming up on patrick tonight patrick christys tonight on gb news week . sorry, with countries news week. sorry, with countries in across the world in europe and across the world voting right wing parties, voting for right wing parties, are people sick of being ignored? is that what's driving it? we'll also have our i'm a celebrity verdict of day six. plus, the winner of the third series widely regarded as the best in 2004, kerry best series back in 2004, kerry katona joins us after 10 pm. she got , i mean, some she has got, i mean, some remarkable info about nigel farage for you . but next, the farage for you. but next, the sun have basically said that nella rose is part of a grievance generation. i'm asking , are young people too easily offended? says she

okay, so the sun have described nella rose as being part of a grievance generation after the alleged youtube star had an argument with first date star

fred in tuesday's episode of i'm a celeb. so nella got offended over fred saying he was old enough to be her dad . take it away. >> you live on that side? i live on this side and it's cool. don't bring up my dead parent. are you stupid about. oh, you know, it could your dad, know, it could be your dad, right? know, my dad's dead. right? you know, my dad's dead. you're a weirdo. you're a weirdo. took it. weirdo. i'm sorry you took it. i'm so sorry. >> say. >> can i just say. >> can i just say. >> but no, this nella is not a stranger making jokes or stranger to making jokes or comments about dad's. here she is on love island star chloe burrows. his podcast, the kick game. >> craig met daddy. >> craig met daddy. >> should we call him daddy today? >> let's just call him daddy. like you're playing was outrageous. >> you've got game. >> you've got game. >> i walked into kick game . i >> i walked into kick game. i saw mitch. i said , daddy, father saw mitch. i said, daddy, father , daddy . , daddy. >> okay , so it's not just the >> okay, so it's not just the celebrity star, the so—called gen z are taking to the internet across the world to moan about life. >> the egg was not on the salmon i >> -- >> cani >> can i please get a new one? i

don't want to eat this. >> it needs a new one. why are you even here? >> why are you even here? >> why are you even here? >> i can't make this up. and i don't get home till, like, >> i can't make this up. and i don't get home till , like, 615 don't get home till, like, 615 earliest. and then , like, i earliest. and then, like, i don't have time to do anything . don't have time to do anything. i a shower , eat my i don't. i want a shower, eat my dinner and go to sleep. i don't have time or energy to cook my dinner either. >> right . okay. so are the >> right. okay. so are the younger generation a grievance generation? joining me to discuss this is it's got your age in the autocue, but i won't read it out. that's appropriate, really. as you can see, it's really. but as you can see, it's all rather young. assistant us opinion editor of the telegraph, poppy opinion editor of the telegraph, poppy doing great poppy cobain. he's doing great stuff the telegraph at stuff for the telegraph at the moment. sure that you check moment. make sure that you check all social media. moment. make sure that you check all you social media. moment. make sure that you check all you know, social media. moment. make sure that you check all you know, oh, cial media. moment. make sure that you check all you know, oh, are media. moment. make sure that you check all you know, oh, are people look, you know, oh, are people your age with you, with yourself excluded now just a grievance generation, do you think? >> well, i think it would be a bit unfair if i say, you know, everybody my age is terrible, but am very special and i am but i am very special and i am above all of grievance above all of the grievance generation i generation stuff, although i suppose could say that suppose you could say that would be of me if i was to be very gen z of me if i was to go along blame it on go along and blame it on everyone else. >> don't think >> but i don't know. i think

it's a little unfair that it's a little bit unfair that when we pull out examples of people who i don't think people who i don't just think it's young, it's because they're young, i think it's because they're really annoying. and the problem with stuff like social media and obviously i'm celeb obviously this is i'm a celeb excepted, the excepted, is that the most annoying get most annoying people get the most airtime like airtime because a video like that of someone into that of someone coming into a restaurant complaining restaurant and complaining about their like sobbing their food or like sobbing hysterically have hysterically because they have to a 9 to job. i mean, to work a 9 to 5 job. i mean, we've all felt like we've probably all felt like that some point our life . that at some point in our life. but is, maybe but the thing is, you maybe you have cry home, but have a little cry at home, but you like film it, post the you don't like film it, post the video the tiktok. video and the tiktok. >> that's bit it me >> that's the bit of it for me that don't quite get because that i don't quite get because there appears now genuinely to be of you can't be a thing of if you can't really by anything really be offended by anything that someone said, you end that someone said, then you end up aggression up in micro aggression territory and with all and then you end up with all this unconscious stuff and that's people ways be that's people finding ways to be offended . offended. >> i think it's like, you >> yeah, i think it's like, you know, it is know, a lot of it is performative , so i don't performative, so i don't actually people even feel actually think people even feel necessarily but they necessarily offended, but they feel have to pretend to feel they have to pretend to feel they have to pretend to feel that way. i know people who have like grown up too much on tiktok and the way they speak. they speak almost in like

internet memes and like inside jokes . you can't have a normal jokes. you can't have a normal conversation with them because it's like they're constantly performing for audience. yes. it's like they're constantly perfii'ming for audience. yes. it's like they're constantly perfii think for audience. yes. it's like they're constantly perfii think that's audience. yes. it's like they're constantly perfii think that's whyence. yes. it's like they're constantly perfii think that's why nello yes. it's like they're constantly perfii think that's why nello is;. and i think that's why nello is probably really is probably i mean, she really is the i'm a celeb the villain of i'm a celeb this yean the villain of i'm a celeb this year, everyone. always a year, everyone. there's always a villain. she's really come across as because she can't across as that because she can't have conversation like have a normal conversation like all reactions really all of her reactions seem really like she like staged and fake and she reacts violently to really reacts so violently to really normal questions. reacts so violently to really normal questions . like, i joke normal questions. like, i joke about enough to be your about i'm old enough to be your dad and she freaks out. but when she's the right environment, she's in the right environment, as of course she as we've just saw, of course she doesn't doesn't really care. doesn't she doesn't really care. but she feels she has but it's like she feels she has to performance for to do a performance for everyone. and yeah, i think that's you that's over. socialisation you spend too much time on tiktok, you freak out, it goes viral. it's a toxic cycle. >> i just wonder as well, though, there's that that though, if there's that that that sense of offence , but that mass sense of offence, but also very reactions to also very extreme reactions to that, that i think that people on a slightly older generation just aren't really like that . i just aren't really like that. i think there's more intolerance with younger people there is i think it's also there's no conception of having a stiff

upper lip anymore because again, that's just not rewarded by like youth culture. >> you know, you have to be a bit hysterical. that's what people respond to. so yeah, there is intolerance because there is intolerance because there is intolerance because there is a certain degree of fragility because you don't have that part of your brain that goes, okay, someone says something a bit unpleasant, but i'm to laugh it off. and i'm going to laugh it off. and we're not we're not going to make the situation a big deal. but it goes but for them, it's like it goes to everything's like in but for them, it's like it goes tcreally everything's like in but for them, it's like it goes tc really extreme hing's like in but for them, it's like it goes tcreally extreme reaction. e in but for them, it's like it goes tc really extreme reaction. it's a really extreme reaction. it's like someone makes joke and like someone makes a joke and i'm always on edge. i'm so like, i'm always on edge. i'm so like, i'm always on edge. i'm always expecting someone to attack was attack me and i think that was really what nella was doing. she was waiting to be offended. she was waiting to be offended. she was for to go was waiting for someone to go after sorry, it's after her. and sorry, it's really egotistical, know. really egotistical, you know. i know sometimes when these programs , you not your programs, you may not be your best being filmed best self, you're being filmed 24 it very much came 24 seven, but it very much came across to someone that has across to me as someone that has across to me as someone that has a very fragile ego, very, very entitled, and probably hasn't seen world and seen much of the world and probably thinks that they are like important person. like quite an important person. and they're not. and frankly, they're not. >> yeah, i think you're absolutely that is absolutely right that i which is i appreciate the irony here with me currently being on camera

me currently being on a camera and for a living, and me doing this for a living, i would not necessarily a i would not necessarily like a camera around 24 camera following me around 24 over some my over seven. and as some of my producers often tell you, producers will often tell you, i sometimes all sometimes the mask slips. all right , better make sure we get right, better make sure we get this right. but anyway, so this bit right. but anyway, so sometimes slip. sometimes the mask does slip. but so that could be but you know, so that could be caught camera be caught on camera that could be put and easily put out and that can easily change someone's perception of you. do understand that. you. and i do understand that. but i i'm concerned right but i i'm concerned that right now generation coming now we have a generation coming through that expects everything to be easy, expect everything to be own way, can't tolerate be their own way, can't tolerate any other views, and want everyone not everyone cancelled for not sharing is the problem that >> but is the problem not that because i do because you know what? i do think generation has think my generation has had a rough deal certain you rough deal in certain ways. you know , and to not to get into know, and not to not to get into all of it. the all the politics of it. the problem that they're problem is that they're getting offended things. problem is that they're getting offende getting things. problem is that they're getting offende getting offended things. problem is that they're getting offende getting offended about|s. they're getting offended about things that don't make any sense . example, her . you know, for example, her argument she with nigel argument she had with nigel farage absolutely no sense argument she had with nigel fa all. absolutely no sense argument she had with nigel fa all. you absolutely no sense argument she had with nigel fa all. you know,)lutely no sense argument she had with nigel fa all. you know, youly no sense argument she had with nigel fa all. you know, you look sense argument she had with nigel fa all. you know, you look atense at all. you know, you look at farage, he holds himself very professional. you know, he's also he's got a bit of levity to him. he's laughing. he's joking him. he's laughing. he'sjoking around. you can almost see around. and you can almost see in his face like, is

in his face he's like, this is just well, also just ridiculous. well, he also take seriously. just ridiculous. well, he also takihe seriously. just ridiculous. well, he also takihe also riously. just ridiculous. well, he also takihe also just.ly. just ridiculous. well, he also takihe also just asked very >> he also just asked a very simple question. >> he also just asked a very simple quation. >> he also just asked a very simple qua really normal >> right. a really normal question. i find with some question. and i find with some people they will accept the most outrageous people they will accept the most outrag or js people they will accept the most outragor personal from social or personal life from people. but then you have people. but then if you have like a really reasonable like maybe slightly political side, she's like she's more i reckon people like her be more willing to her will be more willing to accept deciding to as accept me deciding to live as a cat would someone cat than they would someone saying i want this amount of migrants every year probably. >> thank you very, much . >> thank you very, very much. bang out time but lovely bang out of time but lovely stuff assistant us stuff that is assistant us opinion editor at the telegraph. poppy poppy cobain. coming up on patrick christys night gb patrick christys night on gb news, we have news, we will have our i'm a celebrity verdict of day six. plus the winner third plus the winner of the third ever series back in 2004, kerry katona is on after with katona is on after ten with i mean some remarkable stuff about nigel farage and an offer i think he will refuse , but many think he will refuse, but many men wouldn't. now i will give you tomorrow's newspaper front pages as well inside the pages as well what's inside the book. anyone else and book. but before anyone else and it most entertaining it will be the most entertaining owning paper of you anywhere on the telly. that's after 1030. but right now, with countries in

good evening. this is patrick christys. tonight . everybody christys. tonight. everybody come on, let's go . it's kicked come on, let's go. it's kicked off big time in dublin this week. politicians now reaping what they've sowed after years of ignoring the public on immigration. both legal and illegal. i will also take you down under with our intrepid reporter , ben leo. there he is. reporter, ben leo. there he is. look at him. he's like a catalogue model , isn't he? catalogue model, isn't he? anyway, we'll have the latest from the jungles , synthetic ban from the jungles, synthetic ban and you will not want to miss this . this. >> come on. the last time i was with nigel, it. >> i actually offered him a discount but discount on the onlyfans. but after watching i'm a celebrity, i think he might be end up starting his own account. >> yeah. there's a lot more of that. by the way, 2004. i'm a celeb winner. kerry katona reveals more ways than reveals all in more ways than one in an exclusive chat with me. that's coming up shortly . i

me. that's coming up shortly. i will give you tomorrow's newspaper front pages and what's inside book as well. before inside the book as well. before anyone the media and anyone else on the media and it's the most entertaining paper of you around as well. ready to get busy sofa , though, get busy on the sofa, though, are the spectators man, are the spectators star man, james hale, broadcasting royalty john political john sergeant and political insider . stella do john sergeant and political insider. stella do this is patrick christys tonight and it's live . it's live. talk to me gb views gbnews.com. is it wrong to call protesters far right? tweet me at gb views. i'll see you after the headlines i >> patrick thank you and good evening. your top story from the newsroom. several israeli hostages travelling by helicopter are said to have landed at the schneider children's medical centre in israel. for those watching on

television, this is them arriving a short while ago. it's been said they'll be reuniting with families inside the hospital while 13 israeli hostages were released by hamas today, the israeli military saying it's preparing for the next stage of the gaza operation . these pictures now show the hostage is being transferred , hostage is being transferred, third in red cross cars via the rafah crossing. more aid is being allowed into gaza, which is expected to continue over the coming days . is expected to continue over the coming days. there was also a further group of thai hostages released by hamas following separate mediation efforts by eqypt separate mediation efforts by egypt and qatar . those released egypt and qatar. those released today include 13 israelis, some of whom are dual nationals. ten thai citizens and a filipino national qatar foreign ministry says 39 palestine women and children have also been released from israeli prisons as part of the deal. a temporary pause in fighting came into force this morning, which is expected to last for four days. as marga

moses. daniel aloni . emilia moses. daniel aloni. emilia aloni, adina moshe , ohad munda aloni, adina moshe, ohad munda and ruth munda, just six of the israeli hostages who've been released today. a full list of israelis who've been freed has been released by the prime minister's office. they include one male and range in age from 85 to as young as just five. the israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu, has said we're committed to the return of all of our hostages. the uk's foreign secretary, lord david cameron, also saying it's a huge relief to see hostages return today. we'll bring you more on this as we get it. in other news, there's been more disruption on the streets of dubun disruption on the streets of dublin this evening following the riots and violent scenes yesterday that saw 34 people arrested . a smaller number of arrested. a smaller number of people this evening attempted to create unrest for a second night in a row. more arrests have been made. a clean up was under way this morning in the city centre after cars were set alight and shops were looted. a number of police officers were also

injured . the violence was injured. the violence was sparked after three children and a woman were stabbed close to a school in the city. yet today, a five year old girl is said to still be in a serious condition . still be in a serious condition. rishi sunak is facing a backlash from senior members of his own party after new figures revealed migration is at an all time high. reports suggest mps are demanding action to reduce the number of people coming legally to the uk. net migration peaked at 745,000 last year, a record high. finally, the uk could be in for freezing conditions as temperatures as low as minus five are expected. the met office says the cold spell could also see snow fall next week. those freezing temperatures that could possibly reach minus seven expected across northwestern england and in the south, the minus four in rural areas of wales tomorrow morning . this is wales tomorrow morning. this is gb news across the uk on tv in your car, on digital radio and

on your smart speaker by saying play on your smart speaker by saying play gb news. now back to . play gb news. now back to. patrick shortly. >> i'll give you an exclusive remarkably revealing interview with jungle queen kerry katona. but now our politicians reaping what they sowed, ignoring the pubuc what they sowed, ignoring the public on immigration, on illegal immigration or on the increased threat of things like radical islamism and demonising people who have certain concerns about undocumented young men coming by thousands. coming in by the thousands. people and tired and people are sick and tired and now in some cases they're fighting back. europe is going to the right , fighting back. europe is going to the right, as the netherlands has just elected a bloke who wants mosques. wants to ban mosques. will britain follow suit? are we next here to give us some of the inside scoop very shortly is going to be the political editor at express online. david maddox. i'm going to be talking about all of that with him. and he joins now. not before time. joins me now. not before time. david look, do you think i mean, you've done a fantastic piece today, right, about the way that

europe's gone. but i want to know you whether or not you europe's gone. but i want to know we you whether or not you europe's gone. but i want to know we could whether or not you europe's gone. but i want to know we could go ether or not you europe's gone. but i want to know we could go ethe same ot you europe's gone. but i want to know we could go ethe same way. u think we could go the same way. so i'm just going to lob this one over to you. >> no, don't. because lot of >> no, don't. because a lot of those parties and politicians outlined in that article today are different types of right wing. >> some of them are far right. you know, we're talking about afd alternative for germany in deutschland . it's a some i think deutschland. it's a some i think wilders, i have to say . i think wilders, i have to say. i think he's far right i'm not sure about him. he may have moderated le pen i think is a bit exaggerated. so there's you know, there's a chance that she's moved more into the mainstream . but i don't think mainstream. but i don't think our system of politics and our thinking of politics really allows for it. what i could see, though, is a new right wing party emerging from potentially the shattered remains of a conservative party, as it's seems to be heading for a complete wipe—out . and if that complete wipe—out. and if that happens, then i could see, you

know , your colleague leaving gb know, your colleague leaving gb news and potentially leading a new conservative party, which is, dare i say it, actually conservative. that's not far right. that's not extremist, but it's , you know, a proper centre it's, you know, a proper centre right party, which i don't think really exists in british politics at the moment. >> okay. look, david, thank you very, very much. that is david maddox. of course, there of the express . i'm maddox. of course, there of the express. i'm going to respond to this now with my panel, political correspondent at the spectator, james hale, the bbc's former chief political correspondent. john sergeant, a former labour party adviser . former labour party adviser. stella, you now i will go to you, james, first. could britain ever go far right. >> i am sceptical of that because the voting system we've got first past the post in this country, which means that it's unlikely we'd see the kind of results netherlands, unlikely we'd see the kind of resultsis netherlands, unlikely we'd see the kind of resultsis underietherlands, unlikely we'd see the kind of resultsis under atherlands, unlikely we'd see the kind of resultsis under a proportional which is under a proportional system, that to change, system, were that to change, potentially be potentially it could be different. think the key

different. but i think the key thing is actually if the conservatives challenge thing is actually if the cons> so, you know, that may is

far right very unlikely. >.reason ou know, that may is far right very unlikely. >.reason whyiow, that may is far right very unlikely. >.reason why people it may is far right very unlikely. >.reason why people should is far right very unlikely. >.reason why people should stop a reason why people should stop worrying this. worrying so much about this. this idea that, oh, my gosh, the far right is on the march in britain. mean, would be britain. i mean, it would be very, very difficult for anyone who's got genuine far who's seriously got genuine far right anywhere power. >> i do agree with the point >> so i do agree with the point that john made, which is that when single issue when you have a single issue politician and then they have to go on the media every day, day after day, people eventually realise aren't that realise that there aren't that many, there aren't that many policies behind that. yeah, but, but i have to look at the us. i have to look at donald trump and i to at all of these i have to look at all of these people, of the media people, all of the media establishment suggesting that he would become prime would never become prime minister. there president minister. there is president of the states. sorry. the united states. i'm sorry. there is no universe where that could are. could happen. and here we are. he become president once he may become the president once again. i do not know why. again. and i do not know why. the why why liberals in the uk are that confident that this could never happen here. >> i think we have a great >> well, i think we have a great tradition in this country. >> p.g. tradition in this country. >> pg. wodehouse >> i you know, pg. wodehouse wrote the 1930 that, you wrote in the 1930 that, you know, he compared you know, he compared mosley to, you know, he compared mosley to, you know , spodic. and think know, spodic. and i think basically we have a tradition of

laughing at fascists rather than voting for them. we don't in this country take things this country take those things too we're too seriously. i think we're a country and you can country of tolerance and you can take that over centuries. you country of tolerance and you can take a at over centuries. you country of tolerance and you can take a maturecenturies. you country of tolerance and you can take a maturecenturiedemocracy have a mature liberal democracy and so i think mercifully, we're going to be spared some that going to be spared some of that because we a parliamentary because we have a parliamentary system someone system which meant that someone like is unlikely to like donald trump is unlikely to ever get the of power. >> i do not know that pizza guy you but what i >> i do not know that pizza guy yotknow but what i >> i do not know that pizza guy yotknow is but what i >> i do not know that pizza guy yotknow is that but what i >> i do not know that pizza guy yotknow is that thankst what i >> i do not know that pizza guy yotknow is that thanks to hat i >> i do not know that pizza guy yotknow is that thanks to boris do know is that thanks to boris johnson very liberal johnson and his very liberal immigration the immigration politics, the demographics in the uk are changing. also very changing. and you also have very changing. and you also have very changing media, which is changing social media, which is where of people get where most of the people get a lot of the voters get their news from. so i wouldn't be that confident a seismic people i >> -- >> but this 5mm km >> but this is this is the lunacy that we live under because people were happy to call boris johnson far right. and at the same time, you know, we johnson very we see boris johnson very liberal policy. liberal immigration policy. i mean, far. mean, boris boris is not far. right. okay and you know, john, i or not there's i wonder whether or not there's a irony here, which a certain irony here, which is people called people have been called intolerant intolerant and intolerant and intolerant and intolerant and intolerant and intolerant long that intolerant for so long that maybe that's made them a bit maybe that's now made them a bit intolerant. i mean, no,

intolerant. well i mean, no, i mean, you're right to say that one thing can use reduce use to extraordinary different argument. >> you know, you start off being cross about this, but in fact , cross about this, but in fact, you then get a hard line about that. people are a mixture all the time. but the key point to bearin the time. but the key point to bear in mind is that we do have this amazing long tradition of tolerance . yeah. and that it's tolerance. yeah. and that it's very easy to say, oh, but the far right are ready to kill immigrants and do all sorts of things . but immigrants and do all sorts of things. but the mass of the british public are extremely, i think , not particularly racist. think, not particularly racist. they're very interested in class. they're very interested in differences of money and generates a sense of fair play as well in the sense of fair play. but the idea that all that is just for nothing and that we just we have these just we don't have these traditions and we can give that up a in a short period, no, up in a in a short period, no, we a very lots of we don't. it's a very lots of people are not interested in people who are not interested in politics, particularly if there are key questions. yes. they come over as remarkably tolerant and saying, and what is your

policy then and what would you do about this? but not all those sorts of this is how we work not to be taken for a ride. >> and i think that's it. and i think people are now maybe kind of saying , look, enough's of saying, look, enough's enough. because of saying, look, enough's en0|remember, because of saying, look, enough's en0|remember, of because of saying, look, enough's en0|remember, of course,ause of saying, look, enough's en0|remember, of course, what you remember, of course, what happened in this with the european 2014, the european issue in 2014, the european issue in 2014, the european ukip top european elections, the ukip top of and that was a big, big of that, and that was a big, big pressure building up. >> think debate now >> and i think the debate is now shifted from european shifted slightly from european political structures the political structures onto the question of migration and numbers. and. patrick and so i do i think that when do agree and i think that when we're about this we're talking about this tradition and i, know, huge tradition and i, you know, huge supporter also think supporter of that, i also think it with certain it does come with certain responsibilities which responsibilities and one which politicians responsibilities and one which politiciancannot complacent about. >> okay. think very, very >> okay. i think very, very shortly are going be shortly we are going to be whizzing over to the latest whizzing over to for the latest on i'm a celebrity, me out on i'm a celebrity, get me out of here because nigel farage is first the jungle has first week in the jungle has come to an end, hasn't it? and apparently nigel's team were dominant in the trials tonight to win a breakfast of champions, supposedly . so we are to win a breakfast of champions, supposedly. so we are going to cross live to australia now . to

cross live to australia now. to ben leah. we're going to do that very we're going to do that. we are. oh, ben, you're right there. he's a i think it's early. it's early in the morning. it's ben, morning. it's early. ben, are you right? yeah. well you're you all right? yeah. well you're on the telly, mate. >> um . oh, my god. are we on >> um. oh, my god. are we on air? sorry. i was watching the show, and it was so boring, i fell goodness me. fell asleep. goodness me. i think it was one of the most bonng think it was one of the most boring episodes yet. um, where are we? yeah. look, nigel hardly appeared in tonight's he appeared in tonight's show. he was doing the bushtucker trial with his away team. he was an assistant to grace dent. she had assistant to grace dent. she had a bowl of cockroaches on her head. one got in her ear as well, actually, which the medic had get out. but nigel's only had to get out. but nigel's only role was running with role was running around with little ants in his so um. little ants in his pants. so um. yeah, this is the moment they got stuck into the trial . got stuck into the trial. >> i'm hoping we're able to show that in just a second. oh, we have. we got a little bit of a nigel farage with ants in his pants. and the cockroach going in somebody's ear. hopefully we've. we've got this. on. we've. we've got this. go on. there . there we go. >> experience. what has >> what an experience. what has a little boy, my grandparents

and parents used to say to me that i had ants in my pants. well, today i learnt literally what that's like. and to what that's like. and i got to tell there still tell you, there are still some in . right? in there right now. right? >> so. so nigel, nigel's team won then, did they? because he i think he got, he lost. he lost and covered in fish guts yesterday. >> yeah that's right. so because they lost the previous night's trial they had to sleep on a hard floor. i don't know what that did for nigel's dodgy back. they also had a really rubbish dinner of rice and beans. but because they won tonight, they got i think it got a nice dinner. i think it was think was camel anus. was, i think it was camel anus. but at least wasn't rice and but at least it wasn't rice and beans elsewhere. um i've been speaking to show insiders actually people who are working in around the show, they reckon that behind the scenes it's such a friendly vibe that the campmates get on so well that it's making hard work for the show editors to put something exciting together. so i think we need someone like tony blair or gina miller to go in there or, you know, we need another row

about immigration someone about immigration or someone calling nigel because calling nigel racist, because i think that definitely will get the interest sparked up . the interest sparked up. interestingly, there's a really good column actually in the daily mail this morning, a couple of hours ago from janet street . porter talking about street. porter talking about nigel's election angle . she said nigel's election angle. she said the tories don't know what to do in order to win an election. nigel farage is enemies. can moan all they like about the jungle, but he could hold the key now to who's in downing street by the end of next year. expect more of naked nigel on i'm a celeb next week. the stakes couldn't not be higher now . nigel is stakes couldn't not be higher now. nigel is a bigger favourite to become next tory leader than bofis to become next tory leader than boris johnson. but as i said, the show's been a bit boring. so for the meantime, keeps keep tuning into patrick christys tonight . tonight. >> uh, exactly . ben. absolutely >> uh, exactly. ben. absolutely stellar stuff , mate, as ever. stellar stuff, mate, as ever. well done . and i will just say well done. and i will just say to you one more time, please try , try, try to survive on the gold coast out there in a

deckchair on the flipping beach. that's ben. leo there found favourite right now . it's a good favourite right now. it's a good job. i've got such a high brow panel of political gurus on tonight . james hale, nigel's tonight. james hale, nigel's arse . do you think he should arse. do you think he should keep getting it out ? keep getting it out? >> well, it's not doing him any problems, is it? you know, he needs to be doing rather well. i've heard talk of naked calendars and some such like that i'll be it's that so i'll be i'm sure it's not doing any harm with the not doing him any harm with the viewers not doing him any harm with the vieiwhat think about this >> what do you think about this idea that nigel so it's one idea now that nigel so it's one i thought was interesting though is friendly in the camp is it's so friendly in the camp that to that they're really having to try manufacture bit try to manufacture a little bit of put out of hatred to put out and entertain the public, you know. >> that's i'm nigel >> oh that's right. i'm nigel farage do very well. farage is going to do very well. and he wants is as few and what he wants is as few headunes and what he wants is as few headlines as possible , except headlines as possible, except one at the end. farage wins. >> okay. so does it does it bother you that nigel farage is coming across so well, say to me, i had ants in my pants today. >> i learnt no , it doesn't >> i learnt no, it doesn't bother me. >> i think . i think he's funny, >> i think. i think he's funny, but i think the celebrity

creation of politicians needs to stop. that's what's bothering me. he's he's really lowering the bar for everyone else. >> do you think do you think it drags politics into the gutter? yeah, i do. >> i think and i say that >> i do think it. and i say that and i'm sure they do their best work. >> i think in the gutter. >> i think in the gutter. >> right . well, all of you, >> all right. well, all of you, thank you very, very much. and >> all right. well, all of you, thanwasu very, very much. and >> all right. well, all of you, thanwas james very much. and >> all right. well, all of you, thanwas james hill. much. and >> all right. well, all of you, thanwas james hill. john. . and that was james hill. john. sergeant and stella sankey as well. coming up. coming up, coming up, i bring you the most entertaining and informative press country press preview in the country with tonight's press pack. we're going going all going to be going through all of tomorrow's headlines tomorrow's biggest headlines before anybody else as well. but coming immediately next, coming up immediately next, a previous queen the jungle previous queen of the jungle shares her live reaction to tonight's episode of i'm a celebrity. here, celebrity. get me out of here, as her inside knowledge as well as her inside knowledge and from the show and an and secrets from the show and an offer that nigel surely can't refuse. don't go anywhere .

the people's channel, britain's news channel . news channel. >> now let's get more from down unden >> now let's get more from down under. gb news star nigel farage has survived his first week in the jungle on i'm a celebrity get me out of here. he's even avoided most of the trials voted for by the public. but could he even win the show? well, i'm joined now by a previous winner, the wonderful kerry katona here she is winning the third series back in 2004. >> that was going to get drunk

every day. that's what i thought because i didn't see on the last series. >> so i just thought, and if i get voted out, go on the piss. >> we used to. >> we used to. >> that was remarkable . 19 years >> that was remarkable. 19 years ago, and one of the most ago, kerry and one of the most memorable shows in its history, i think i'm being a little bit biased, but i think it was the best ever. >> yeah, it was an amazing, amazing experience . amazing experience. >> yeah. and so to win it, of course, is absolutely fantastic . course, is absolutely fantastic. but you are ideally placed , i but you are ideally placed, i think, to talk to us a little bit about how nigel's getting on and maybe even give a couple of tips for him well. i mean, tips for him as well. i mean, nigel has kicked off nigel farage has kicked off quite recently about cleaning issues in camp, about rats and stuff. do you think he's showing a bit of leadership in there . a bit of leadership in there. you know what? >> to be honest with you, i wouldn't say he's kicking off. i completely get where he's coming from because he's nothing worse

than being in the jungle anyway with the bugs and the rats and all that kind of stuff. you don't rats in the jungle don't want rats in the jungle anyway. so the cleaner, the camp is, the better it is all around . is, the better it is all around. as a clean room is as i say, a clean room is a clean line. yeah exactly. >> it must be incredibly frustrating for him, but he's in there with quite a lot of young people i'm keen your people and i'm keen to get your take on it. this series so far has sparked a lot questions has sparked a lot of questions about younger about whether the younger generation is screwed. generation well is screwed. frankly >> well, i think what it is with the younger generation, they have no patience whatsoever. the very, very lazy. i know my kids are you know, everything's at such a button . they don't like such a button. they don't like watching adverts. they want to fast i think fast forward stuff. and i think that they've become so reliant on their parents or somebody else doing it. on their parents or somebody else doing it . and i think if else doing it. and i think if nigel wasn't in there or the, you know, the older camp mates , you know, the older camp mates, it'd tip if i'm it'd be an absolute tip if i'm honest. i know if i was in there, i'd be like, right, come on, you lot, get off your asses and clean up. >> yeah , but possibly, quite

>> yeah, but possibly, quite possibly . i think you and i possibly. i think you and i might fall out because my flat, it's always a little bit of a whatever you call it, but how did you deal with confrontation in there? okay, because. because nigel has had fred have a pop at him. he's had nella have a pop at him. and then, by the way, not listen to a single thing he had to say. but how would you deal with confrontations? >> believe it or not, actually >> believe it or not, i actually don't but don't like confrontations. but it the thing is with me, i do say what's on my mind. i've got no filter . it say what's on my mind. i've got no filter. it all depends on how you say it and who you're saying it to be. a bit subtle with it. don't argumentative . the don't be argumentative. the thing jungle is it's a thing with the jungle is it's a once in a lifetime experience. keep it light hearted, keep it fun. you know, boost each of them and understand why people are asking nigel all questions. because brexit was the worst thing that's ever happened in the entire world. and love. nigel i absolutely adore him, but you know not you're not always going to agree with what somebody else believes in, but

that doesn't mean that you can't all get along and you know, enjoy his company. >> you said you do like nigel. no, i mean, he's all right. nigel, we've seen a lot of nigel recently in the jungle. yeah go on. >> last time i was with nigel, i actually offered him a discount on the only fans. but after watching i'm a celebrity, i think he might be end up starting his own account. >> so just educate some of our viewers and our listeners . viewers and our listeners. right. about what only fans is and what offer you made. nigel well, only fans is an over 18 subscription. >> it can be anything you want to make up tutorials or look a bit of glamour modelling and i do a little bit of modelling. i mean, let's be honest, i'm not going to be a rocket scientist, am i? so i've got to go where i can venture and when i was on, when i was on, when i just said, you know, you're a 50% discount, i think he actually signed up. i

actually think nigel star for 76 on only fans in that tiny on my only fans in that tiny little push of is i might have a bit of a run for my money i might have a bit of competition to exit and it what kind of stuff do you reckon nigel could do on onlyfans? >> do you think there's a market for that? oh oh yeah, there's a for that? oh oh yeah, there's a for market everybody on onlyfans we could have a full moon party. >> we could have a or we could have.i >> we could have a or we could have. i don't know. i don't want to be too rude, but yeah , he's to be too rude, but yeah, he's got a nice little touch. you're not bad for his age. although nigel, no disrespect. he reminds me of, like, a character from the simpsons. i don't know why, but i see a caricature of nigel on the simpsons. couldn't you? well >> well, quite possibly. quite possibly . i mean, he has been possibly. i mean, he has been lifting wood in the jungle. gary i >> -- >> hey, lama >> hey, watch this space. you just never know, dear . as >> hey, watch this space. you just never know, dear. as long as he uses my code and i get a

discount on my right. >> okay, well, there you go. you've got the exclusive here. gary catona thinks that nigel farage would do very, very well on onlyfans. he'll even help him out a bit with it. and do you think, though, that crucially, nigel could win down under? i'm talking about the jungle now . no talking about the jungle now. no all right. fair enough. why not? um i think. >> um ithink. >> i um i think. >> i think we're all going to see a complete different side of nigel once again, i've met nigel. i got on great with him. um but again, there are a lot of people who do, i think what's going to go against nigel is his politics. you know, at the end of the day, not everyone's going to agree with it and that's okay. and i'm not sure if he's in there with that extra 25% of time that you want. in there with that extra 25% of time that you want . maybe that's time that you want. maybe that's why he's getting his bum out . why he's getting his bum out. >> he's getting >> maybe that's why he's getting his 5. >> yeah , you know what? they're >> yeah, you know what? they're all you know what? at this stage, they're all in for a chance of winning. but i think my favourite is going to be fred

orjose . or jose. >> oh, there we orjose. >> oh, there we go. i think jose is very popular, isn't he? i think fred's divided people think fred fred's divided people maybe a bit more than jose. i think it's quite hard at the moment to not jose, isn't moment to not like jose, isn't it but look , thank you it really? but look, thank you very, very much. can i just say absolutely magnificent to have you on the show? of course . and you on the show? of course. and to have him and the mind boggles as what nigel farage will be as to what nigel farage will be getting up to. on only fans with or without you. >> between me , that's between me >> between me, that's between me and nigel. >> well, fair enough. gary thank you very much. you've brightened up my friday evening. i'm sure you've up everybody you've brightened up everybody else's well. carrie gets else's eyes as well. carrie gets out the out of there, of course. the queen the jungle back in queen of the jungle back in 2004. well, look, coming up, we'll bring you the front pages before anybody else. that's at 10:30 pm. in the most entertaining owning paper review anywhere on telly. that's patrick's press pack . i'll be patrick's press pack. i'll be joined by top fleet street journalist as well as we react to tomorrow's news tonight. don't

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tomorrow's news tonight. >> now in the most entertaining paper of you, you will get on the telly very first front the telly the very first front pages been delivered pages have just been delivered for press pack . so let's for my press pack. so let's start with the i free. after 48 days, children and elderly are among 24 hostages released by hamas, palestinian women and children it says here let out of israeli prisons in exchange, growing anger at netanyahu among families of remaining hostages. that one will be bubbling away. they've also got an exclusive, huw edwards is set to leave bbc news after inquiry. yep, daily express dame esther's joy over precious presence of life. dame esther rantzen has revealed new drugs are holding back her cancen drugs are holding back her cancer. so she can enjoy the unexpected precious presence of a family christmas. good news for esther, of course. the picture story at the top, though, is those of though, is those tears of freedom. stuff in the freedom. a lot of stuff in the papers the hostages. freedom. a lot of stuff in the papgo the hostages. freedom. a lot of stuff in the papgo over the hostages. freedom. a lot of stuff in the papgo over to the hostages. freedom. a lot of stuff in the papgo over to the the hostages. freedom. a lot of stuff in the papgo over to the times ostages. freedom. a lot of stuff in the papgo over to the times now;es. freedom. a lot of stuff in the papgo over to the times now ,es. freedom. a lot of stuff in the papgo over to the times now , at we go over to the times now, at last, some another

last, freedom for some another hostage story. there pictures of them being released by hamas. an elderly lady in a child. the other story , though, on the other story, though, on the times down the side , which i'm times down the side, which i'm reliably informed is going down like a cup of cold. sick is the rwanda plan not the be all rwanda plan is not the be all and all, says cleverly and end all, says james cleverly leaving the european convention on human rights would undermine attempts to tackle illegal migration. we'll talk about that shortly. i'll whizz you over to the . why? because the guardian now. why? because we to war paused while we have to war is paused while 24 are freed . yeah. 24 hostages are freed. yeah. again emotive pictures also at the bottom there. oscar pistorius freed ten years after the murder for the mirror, freed at last year. okay. and the daily star, stockton, it's a garden of eden. this is after james cleverly was accused of calling it an and they've apparently gone to stockton. you can buy a pint of beer for £3. it's got the widest high street in the whole of britain. and bob mortimer once worked there. lovely stuff. right? okay. i bnngin lovely stuff. right? okay. i bring in my esteemed panel now. thank you very, very much. and

right, well, the right, well, i mean, the hostages story is obviously the main one that's leading all of the papers, really, apart from the papers, really, apart from the daily star. look, john, i'll start i'll start with you on this. if that's all right. interesting growing anger at benjamin netanyahu among the families of the remaining hostages. suppose that's to be expected. >> well, because he very >> well, because he was very unpopular anyway in israel before this happened. they then naturally then were pulled together by the horrendous activities of the massacre on the 7th of october. so you know, that bit he got over . the 7th of october. so you know, that bit he got over. but then when it came to the detail, if you think of some of the things he said for example, no, no ceasefire until all hostages are released, that's gone, isn't it ? released, that's gone, isn't it? he's clearly come under a lot of pressure from the united states in all sorts of ways. he's the one who did things in terms of thatissue one who did things in terms of that issue as a whole, which were very controversial. remember all those demonstrations in israel that were about him and about his about his actual life and his

personal life. so it's not surprising that when things start to go wrong or difficult, people start complaining against netanyahu , who i mean, that, i'm netanyahu, who i mean, that, i'm afraid is inevitable . afraid is inevitable. >> before i go to you, james, for a bit of the inside scoop on this cleverly story, still, i can see you kind of nodding along with that. mean, along with that. i mean, obviously, everybody's thoughts and people and prayers go to the people who've released. who've just been released. the people trapped, people who are still trapped, the who are still being the people who are still being held hostage. the held hostage. i mean, in the coming think we're going coming days, i think we're going to learn heck lot about to learn a heck of a lot about what life in gaza has like what life in gaza has been like for we? for these people, aren't we? >> will. but i also >> i agree we will. but i also think that this shows a lot about netanyahu and his ability to during time. to lead israel during this time. clearly the fact that all of this time he didn't want a ceasefire has to do with his political future rather than the best way to get the hostage out. i highly, highly doubt that the best thing for the hostages would be to completely bomb gaza and destroy everything in gaza, because that would put the hostages in danger as well. so i think that the u—turn that he has done just shows how weak he

is and how unreliable he is as a leader . leader. >> well, i mean, i think his future is definitely up for question . i think what what question. i think what what everyone can agree with, i would hope anyway, certainly here at gb news, we have no problem saying are saying that the israelis are fighting, out fighting, announcing out terrorist organisation that committed an atrocity of the highest order. james, i'm going to bring you in now on the front of the times. okay. rwanda plan is not the be all and end all, says james cleverly. and i think your your sources are telling your your sources are telling you this is not going down. well, yes, i've already had my first text from a right wing conservative mp pointing out that this just just after that this just comes just after the yesterday the migration figures yesterday and like this i think shows really a sort of slight difference in opinion. >> previously rishi sunak has said refused rule said that refused to rule out leaving european convention said that refused to rule out lea human european convention said that refused to rule out lea human rights ean convention said that refused to rule out lea human rights inn convention said that refused to rule out lea human rights in this 1vention on human rights in this interview, james cleverly, the on human rights in this intervi appointed cleverly, the on human rights in this intervi appointed clever secretary, newly appointed home secretary, is that off the is very much ruling that off the table, it's not off table, saying it's not off the table, saying it's not off the table, saying it's not off the table, saying going table, saying it's going to jeopardise. so right. jeopardise. so he is so right. >> so just to just to clarify for people, because obviously you've early of

you've had an early sight of this. know, of this. so you know, in front of the times tomorrow going the times tomorrow you're going to be reading our home to be reading about our home secretary basically secretary now basically officially saying officially coming out and saying he's out the he's ruling out, leaving out the echr. well he's warning that leaving echr. well he's warning that leavinto jeopardise the going to jeopardise the cooperation countries cooperation with countries across across europe in across the across europe in terms of tackling the european migration problem . migration problem. >> and of course, this is quite interesting because previously rishi sunak had said that he wasn't going rule off the wasn't going to rule it off the table. cleverly's language around very more around this is very much more hostile idea. yeah. hostile to that idea. yeah. and i a lot the right of i think a lot of the right of the party were very the tory party were very much hoping that there'd be some commitments that year's commitments in that next year's election leave the echr this commitments in that next year's elect clearly,eave the echr this commitments in that next year's elect clearly, ive the echr this commitments in that next year's elect clearly, i thinke echr this commitments in that next year's elect clearly, i think ,echr this commitments in that next year's elect clearly, i think , rulesthis commitments in that next year's elect clearly, i think , rules offi now, clearly, i think, rules off the table. and so rishi sunak has which of the has decided which wing of the tory party going to come tory party is going to come down on. i that the right on. and i think that the right are thinking , hang on on. and i think that the right are thinking, hang on a on. and i think that the right are thinking , hang on a sec, are now thinking, hang on a sec, we thought this would be a huge issue. >> is this do you think honestly, you know, honestly, john, you know, in light mean, light of especially this i mean, is tory literally is the tory party literally going in do you going to split in two, do you think? mean, officially split think? i mean, officially split in two? think? i mean, officially split in tno, i don't think it'll be as >> no, i don't think it'll be as simple that. but i think what simple as that. but i think what they've got to realise is that they've got to realise is that the court judgement on

the supreme court judgement on rwanda devastating wrong rwanda was a devastating wrong judgement against them and their policy , and it made it quite policy, and it made it quite clear that even under british law it would be very difficult to get this plan through. and i think that james cleverly is realises that you can't just keep treading water on this for a year before the election . a year before the election. you've got to start talking to people really seriously about what can be done at all, what realistically can be done , and realistically can be done, and regroup around a policy before the election. now i think a bit of that's asking an awful lot and i'm being incredibly charitable to james cleverly here, but i think he possibly has to say rwanda is not the be all and end all. >> if he really knows it's not going to happen at all. stella, you must be absolutely delighted with conservative i with this. the conservative i mean, their mean, labour can who have their own the own internal problems at the moment be said moment anyway, must be said concurrently, just back and concurrently, just sit back and watch implode. i'm watch the tories implode. i'm delighted how weak he looks and how weak the government looks and how they are completely incapable announcing. incapable of announcing. >> one thing and sticking to it

and delivering and actually delivering delivering incredible . delivering it. it is incredible. when they first announced that policy , i have say it sounded policy, i have to say it sounded ridiculous. it was obvious. ridiculous. it was so obvious. it was something to grab the headunes it was something to grab the headlines , something provocative headlines, something provocative to the right wing votes. and to get the right wing votes. and now they obviously cannot believe it . believe it. >> a deterrent, of course. but yes , some some people might call yes, some some people might call it deterrent . yes. it a deterrent. yes. >> yes, exactly . >> yes, yes, yes, exactly. exactly. but but clearly, they didn't believe it begin didn't believe in it to begin with. clearly that is why they are not sticking to it. >> all right. right now, something little bit something something a little bit different. have different. okay. we do have a story for you which is being described as a royal bombshell. meghan markle claims there are two royal racists who discussed archie's skin colour. this is according to this book that is doing the rounds, omid, scobie and etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. right. look, i'm just going to confront this head on. look john, i'll go to you if meghan markle is saying that there are royal racists , there are royal racists, shouldn't she just name them or shut no, because she wants >> well, no, because she wants to keep going with her career,

which is in tatters , really. but which is in tatters, really. but if you're going to say interesting, exciting things about the royals, you've got to be able to do this on a regular basis. otherwise people won't invite you onto any programs. they won't be discussing on they won't be discussing you on gb and of course, we all gb news and of course, we all know that within a year so know that within a year or so this is what's going to happen, or they'll split up or this is really the the sort of really the end of the sort of peak sussex, isn't it? >> you can't just keep lobbing these things out. there's two these things out. oh there's two royal. you, i'll royal. oh i'm telling you, i'll tell you royal, we've seen, we've we've through we've had we've sat through them crying bosom . we crying into oprah's bosom. we sat netflix sat through netflix documentaries, which i don't like us to bang on about, but i was in shortly after they spoke about the gutter press, actually. read into that what actually. so read into that what you sat through all you will. we've sat through all sorts of stuff, you know, podcasts, everything, just flipping tell it is or flipping. tell us who it is or shut well, the problem is shut up. well, the problem is patrick listened to patrick is having listened to those podcasts , she's those execrable podcasts, she's not interesting. not very interesting. >> is just simply >> meghan markle is just simply not interesting. not very interesting. as a result, have to keep coming result, you have to keep coming out stuff and it gets out with these stuff and it gets weaker weaker time. out with these stuff and it gets weibut weaker time. out with these stuff and it gets weibut but weaker time. out with these stuff and it gets weibut but do aker time. out with these stuff and it gets weibut but do you time. out with these stuff and it gets weibut but do you not time. out with these stuff and it gets weibut but do you not thinks. >> but but do you not think

there are racists the royal there are racists in the royal family made family who would have made comments the comments about the baby? >> i prove it then is but then say it. this is the thing. hey, look, something look, you know, maybe something happened something happened. maybe something happened. maybe something happened. just say stop happened. but just say it. stop holding it like a sword of damocles. >> i think we have enough evidence to know that things happened. >> think this gone for >> i do think this has gone for too long. we've been talking >> i do think this has gone for too lo this ve've been talking >> i do think this has gone for too lo this issue been talking >> i do think this has gone for too lo this issue for�*n talking >> i do think this has gone for too lo this issue for like, king >> i do think this has gone for too lo this issue for like, it'si about this issue for like, it's not it's not worth the. not worth it's not worth the. >> clearly, she thinks differently . differently. >> i do not know because they brought it back up. >> i do not know to what extent it's her leading it at this point. would say she's tried point. i would say she's tried very image very hard to clarify her image to and move on spending most of 2021 getting the poison out. >> i agree. i'm not going to challenge that. >> well, there we go right now. okay. because cause i've got a huw edwards exclusive for you coming your way. coming up, the nafion coming your way. coming up, the nation is divided , though, over nation is divided, though, over nella on imus celebrity and nella rose on imus celebrity and the autumn statement. has it left the country better or worse off? these are the things that are in our headlines right now, but also in tonight's greatest britain and union jackass. but

first, yes , journalist linda first, yes, journalist linda doebley joins me live for some more reaction on tomorrow's front pages, including , as i was front pages, including, as i was saying, some rather interesting stuff about huw back stuff about huw edwards back into . dry or chesty cough? wondering what type of cough you have? try bronchostop. bronchostop is used to relieve dry and chesty coughs.

okay, now, welcome back. more from patrick's press pack now. and i've got some more headlines. hot off the press. we go to the daily mail first and we can skirt past jamie's festive favourites, i imagine. and we'll go straight into we want end the stealth tax. want to end the stealth tax. chancellor hoping to lift freeze on thresholds in spring budget. so couple quick lines from so a couple of quick lines from this stealth tax this rishi sunak stealth tax raid incomes could end raid on incomes could end earlier than planned and the freeze he imposed on personal tax thresholds to pay for pandemic spending is meant to last until 2028. more on that in a bit. i'm going to show you the

daily telegraph's front page now. comic relief chief quits over gaza stance. so a comic comic relief has been plunged into crisis after its chairman resigned over the charity's stance on gaza . eric salama quit stance on gaza. eric salama quit his position after he said comic relief's management took an approach to an issue which i thought was profoundly wrong. it's understood to have been the charity's decision to join dozens organisations dozens of other organisations calling for a ceasefire. that is interesting . we'll have more on interesting. we'll have more on that. they've also got a picture there of some of the hostages being released and some stuff about keir green strategy. but i also have a bit more information on a huw edwards story. i'm going to go now with journalist and broadcaster linda doebley . and broadcaster linda doebley. linda, thank you very, very much for joining us. great to have forjoining us. great to have you on the show. now huw edwards to leave bbc after being given an inquiry. findings into his alleged behaviour follow showing alleged behaviour follow showing a sex scandal really essentially is what that was . and what do is what that was. and what do you think of this? is this a bit unfair on hugh?

>> no , i think that all along he >> no, i think that all along he definitely had to go . and the definitely had to go. and the reason for this is not because i or anyone else has got a particular view about his personal life or whether he was right or whether he was wrong . right or whether he was wrong. >> in fact, there were no police investigate . but the point is investigate. but the point is that once you become the story to that extent, you cannot then read the news and expect to have any gravitas. so in a way, he was in a corner. he had no way out and no place left to go. he has to leave the bbc even though he probably doesn't want to. the question is where is he going to pitch up next? >> do you think he's capable of rehabilitation in the public eye, though ? eye, though? >> anybody's capable of rehabilitate in the in the pubuc rehabilitate in the in the public eye? well, almost anyone. if you go back as profumo or whatever, who worked in a soup kitchen in the east end, the trouble is, some people aren't prepared to put the effort in. i mean, it took profumo decades to rehabilitate himself . i don't rehabilitate himself. i don't

think it would take was that long because increasing and probably because of the advent of 24 hour news people have very short memories and he will be able to move back if he chooses wisely about, you know, where he goes. it'll be interesting . i goes. it'll be interesting. i don't think he'll be off the airwaves , even though he's not airwaves, even though he's not going to go back to the bbc. >> okay. all right . look, i'm >> okay. all right. look, i'm just going to read a couple of lines from this. he was suspended by the corporation in july. it was claimed he'd paid thousands of pounds sexual thousands of pounds for sexual images. police found no evidence of criminal wrongdoing and of any criminal wrongdoing and insider has now said apparently we understand that hugh is not coming back. so that's the latest on the huw edwards bbc stuff. i've just got a bit time with you on the daily telegraph if that's all right, which i'll go through this one again. comic relief gaza relief chief quits over gaza stance . so it appears, according stance. so it appears, according to the telegraph, that the comic relief chief has now quit because comic relief essentially or numerous charities associated it wanted a ceasefire in gaza

and they didn't agree with with that. i think that's quite interesting development . interesting development. >> i think that is very interesting. big charities like this are often in a very, very difficult position , but they difficult position, but they have to remain fairly neutral because of how they fundraise, how they get their revenue. and i think you're right. this is a very interesting story about comic relief and why they decided to take this line . um, decided to take this line. um, it tells us a great deal about how complex the conflict is that we're not in a normal situation for fundraising for an earthquake or the floods in pakistan or anything else. there's a really big political dynamic both within israel and internationally that that big charities have to pay attention to. it's very, very perilous for them right now. i think . them right now. i think. >> okay. all right. look, it's short and sweet, but it was great nonetheless. linda, thank you very, very much. i hope to talk to you again very soon as linda david mellor, journalist and you very,

and broadcaster. thank you very, very well it is time now very much. well it is time now to reveal today's greatest britain and union jackass . with britain and union jackass. with me to reveal theirs are my wonderful panel. we've got james heal wonderful panel. we've got james heal. we've got stella tancredo and john sergeant stella, i'll start with you. can i go greatest britain, please? >> oh, yes. >> oh, yes. >> it's aaron bastani because i think he has been doing a very good job. >> and i know you're laughing, but i did used to. i also used to have specific opinions about him, and i have been following him, and i have been following him over the last few weeks. and he's actually doing a really good job analysing very difficult, complicated issues and packaging them up and finding unique angles that the pubucis finding unique angles that the public is interested in, especially on israel and palestine and on economic inequality. >> i like aaron bastani. i think on some of the things about israel palestine, i think a unique angle would be a potentially slightly generous

way of putting it. not necessarily just him though, to be fair, some of his other colleagues in novara media, john, who's your greatest briton? >> well, honorary joe >> well, an honorary one, joe biden. now, wouldn't think biden. now, you wouldn't think joe was off a flying joe biden was to off a flying hero. but on other hand, you hero. but on the other hand, you know, he's the man behind the scenes who's got the hostages out. so let's not. is it though him ? the more the more you hear him? the more the more you hear all right. the more you hear about it. the more you realise american pressure . i don't mean, american pressure. i don't mean, of course, biden personally. he's some he's surrounded by some extremely impressive people and they've worked very hard on israel behind the scenes and they've got at least something to i'm confident i'm going to win this one because my greatest briton is glenn edwards , the briton is glenn edwards, the hero rescued the man in the hero who rescued the man in the train in redding earlier this week. >> yes . >> yes. >> yes. >> too, right. this guy hovered a crane over a burning building, 16 stories, i think it was . and 16 stories, i think it was. and some poor bloke is there with the towering inferno. you can tell he's one, can't you? towering and and towering inferno. okay. and and this guy hovers his crane down and gets him out. that is. that

is. that is my greatest britain today. so well done. that man can we go now for your union jackass? stellar >> jeremy hunt for >> yes. it's jeremy hunt for manipulating voters and pretending that with his autumn statement he will be cutting taxes where, in fact, most people are going to be worse off. yeah >> okay, james, i mean, do you. do you agree with that? >> well, i'm rather surprised. >> well, i'm rather surprised. >> well, i'm rather surprised. >> well, we're talking about the papers and talking. we want to end stealth well, of end the stealth tax. well, of course, ones who course, they're the ones who introduced first introduced it in the first place with drag in the last few with fiscal drag in the last few years. so don't know. i mean, years. so i don't know. i mean, i'd say that he's i'd say that i'm glad he's belatedly seen the light the belatedly seen the light on the importance belatedly seen the light on the imfokay. :e belatedly seen the light on the imfokay. go on, john. union >> okay. go on, john. your union jackass jackass. >> now, james cleverly i'm sorry. in lots of i like >> now, james cleverly i'm sorry but lots of i like >> now, james cleverly i'm sorry butlots ofon i like >> now, james cleverly i'm sorry but lots ofon aboutike >> now, james cleverly i'm sorry but lots ofon about stockton him. but going on about stockton in way did, know he's in the way he did, i know he's apologised, but good idea. in the way he did, i know he's apolthe ed, but good idea. in the way he did, i know he's apolthe dailth good idea. in the way he did, i know he's apolthe daily star good idea. in the way he did, i know he's apolthe daily star hasjood idea. in the way he did, i know he's apolthe daily star has got idea. in the way he did, i know he's apolthe daily star has got their and the daily star has got their they've done it well, the star. >> they've done well. we >> they've done it well. we had a here. the daily a similar idea here. the daily star massively appealed star is also massively appealed to me with their save our sheep campaign get campaign to try and get a hovercraft to go and save britain's loneliest sheep, which the daily star does. yeah. oh

yeah. serious question marks about what happens to the sheep once they tranquillised it and wrestled it onto a boat. but i mean, you know, britain's most traumatised details, details britain's sheep britain's most traumatised sheep . yeah, exactly. okay james. >> me my jackass is nella rose , >> me my jackass is nella rose, who's managed to alienate in the space of a week. the audience of not just gb news but also channel 4 by insulting the star of come dine with me. >> yes , indeed. okay. all right. >> yes, indeed. okay. all right. now i am going to actually make my union jackass james cleverly for variety different for a variety of different reasons, especially what's on the front of times today. the front of the times today. now, left now, i've deliberately just left a also here, because a minute also here, because actually, john, this huw edwards story going to be big. story is going to be big. i think there are going to be a lot of people's lips tonight and going forward. and i know that you you're right. you are a friend. you're right. say that friend. yeah. and to leave bbc after this leave the bbc after after this inquiry, your views on that because a massive because this was a massive story when first was. when it first it was. >> no, i mean i sort of came out at the just thinking that at the time just thinking that he more and it was he needed more time. and it was just so personally upsetting. i knew were political

knew him. we were both political correspondents knew him. we were both political corback ndents knew him. we were both political corback aients knew him. we were both political corback a very long way. and go back a very long way. and i've always just i was so surprised when these reports came out. i thought, it's not the hugh that i know. >> and i think he had to go, though. >> and i think he had to go, tho well, then get to a >> well, you then get to a position when you've had position where when you've had this publicity, bad this amount of publicity, bad pubuchy this amount of publicity, bad publicity program of publicity, see every program of any sort has got to ask, well, how will the public relate to this person? how will they will they relate to him in the same way as they used to? and the answer is they won't. >> is he or i'm going to ask >> is he or i'm not going to ask you reveal any personal you to reveal any personal conversations anything. but conversations or anything. but i mean, from as mean, is he all right from as you understand or. >> well, i've heard from from some people that he's very some people that he's just very cross. angry some people that he's just very cross. the angry some people that he's just very cross. the way angry some people that he's just very cross. the way he's angry some people that he's just very cross. the way he's treated,|ngry some people that he's just very cross. the way he's treated, very about the way he's treated, very cross what's cross about what's happened. but, overall result cross about what's happened. bujust overall result cross about what's happened. bujust as overall result cross about what's happened. bujust as say, overall result cross about what's happened. bujust as say, isverall result cross about what's happened. bujust as say, is onell result cross about what's happened. bujust as say, is one of esult is, just as i say, is one of personal sadness and regret because he was an extremely talented mean , i knew him talented man. i mean, i knew him in all his different guises . and in all his different guises. and this is devastating . this is devastating. >> what do you what do you think about this, james? i mean, there were some very lurid allegations , weren't there? and there was a

concern , did i mean, the bbc concern, did i mean, the bbc didn't do him any favours initially? actually, i would argue, as well as the sun, of course. who broke the story? >> yeah , it a very odd story >> yeah, it was a very odd story in the handling and the in terms of the handling and the whole and the person whole timeline and the person involved who made these allegations edwards allegations against you. edwards and to say, i'd be very and i have to say, i'd be very interested if that does interested to know if that does affect when bbc affect at the time when the bbc is bit of a star is facing a bit of a star exodus. lots of its main talent leaving going elsewhere. exodus. lots of its main talent leav means going elsewhere. exodus. lots of its main talent leav means goirpeoplevhere. exodus. lots of its main talent leav means goirpeople are e. exodus. lots of its main talent leav means goirpeople are going that means that people are going to likely to work with to be less likely to work with the bbc in the future, particularly someone who is so obviously so obviously the face of so many great events and the and great public events and the and the that with anyway. >> well, look, m well, look, >> right. well, look, we are going to have draw line going to have to draw a line under tonight. i've under it tonight. i've thoroughly thank thoroughly enjoyed this. thank you much. really thoroughly enjoyed this. thank you panel. much. really thoroughly enjoyed this. thank you panel. we've h. really thoroughly enjoyed this. thank you panel. we've covered great panel. we've covered a wide and make wide range of stuff and make sure as well, if you've missed any of it, including kerry katona's very katona's remark, a very revealing interview about nigel farage you farage and only fans. and you can youtube and watch can go back on youtube and watch that as some of the that as well as some of the debates and clashes that we debates and the clashes that we had, especially it comes to had, especially when it comes to the members the the way that some members of the pubuc public feel demonised by constantly their far constantly being told their far right, having concerns about immigration. cetera. be right, having concerns about immion tion. cetera. be right, having concerns about immion mondaycetera. be right, having concerns about

immion mondaycetera9 benext, back on monday from 9 pm. next, headliners good night. >> hello. welcome to the latest gb news weather update from the met will cold met office. it will be a cold start on saturday morning, but it's going to be a sunny and dry day for most with some lighter winds. we've got high pressure in charge bringing that dry weather to a lot of the country. but it is dragging in this northerly breeze that's why but it is dragging in this northe got:)reeze that's why but it is dragging in this northe got quite that's why but it is dragging in this northe got quite such that's why but it is dragging in this northe got quite such a|at's why but it is dragging in this northe got quite such a cold why we've got quite such a cold start morning. but start tomorrow morning. but through of the evening through the rest of the evening that those winds will stay fairly brisk, particularly along the so still the east coast. so still bringing a chilly feel here. a bit more around here, bit more cloud around here, though, the though, so that'll hold the temperatures a along temperatures up a little along the coast, but across the the east coast, but across the west, it's different story, west, it's a different story, as low six degrees in some low as minus six degrees in some sheltered glens of scotland. and as low as minus four in rural areas wales, too, to start areas of wales, too, to start tomorrow so crisp and tomorrow morning. so a crisp and sunny start to the weekend. plenty sunshine through the plenty of sunshine through the day. the cloud will linger across some northern and eastern coasts , but for many us it coasts, but for many of us it will be a dry day you can't will be a dry day and you can't rule out the odd shower now and again across parts of lincolnshire norfolk .

lincolnshire and norfolk. despite the sunshine , it will despite the sunshine, it will still feel fairly chilly. highs of 7 or 8 degrees at most. so you will want a couple of layers if you're out and about on saturday through sunday, it will be a chilly start the east be a chilly start in the east once again. in the once again. but in the west, we're starting to more we're starting to see more unsettled arrive. bit unsettled weather arrive. a bit more arriving into parts of more rain arriving into parts of wales and the south—west as well as northern ireland by mid—morning, that rain moves into the southeast on monday and into the southeast on monday and into tuesday and it'll stay dry

by >> good evening. this is the latest from the newsroom. israeli hostages travelling by helicopter are said to have landed at the schneider children's medical centre in israel for treatment for those watching us on television, this is them arriving a short while ago. it's said they'll be reunited with family members inside of the hospital. 13 israeli hostages were released by hamas today. the israeli military says it's preparing for the next stage of the gaza operation. these pictures show the hostages being transferred in red cross cars via the rafah crossing. more aid is being allowed into gaza, which is expected to continue over the coming days. there was also a further group of thai hostages released by the terror group hamas following separate mediation efforts by egypt and qatar . those released mediation efforts by egypt and qatar. those released today include 13 israelis, some of whom are dual nationals. ten thai citizens and a filipino

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