and hello and welcome to gb news saturday. >> i'm dawn neesom for the next three hours, i'll be keeping you company on tv online and on digital radio. keep you up to date on the stories that really matter to you. coming up this hour, matter to you. coming up this hour , pro—palestinian hour, pro—palestinian demonstrators are set to take to the streets for the seventh week in a row calling for a ceasefire in a row calling for a ceasefire in the israel—hamas conflict. our reporter katherine forster will be there live. then, should we have closer ties with the eu.7 yes we have closer ties with the eu? yes we're going there again. lord david cameron says britain needs closer ties with the european union and should work more brussels on more closely with brussels on international and defence policy . oh gosh, his comments bring backlash from some tory mps who warn him not to reignite the debate over brexit. like it never went away and as hamas released 24 hostages and another 14 set to be released, hopefully today, a glimmer of hope in the

violence of the middle east. but what can the ceasefire hold? and can those still trapped inside gaza make it home safely at and do get in touch, send me your thoughts on gbviews@gbnews.com or message me. very simple. on our socials we're at gb news. but first here is the news with the lovely sophia . the lovely sophia. >> thank you, dawn . good >> thank you, dawn. good afternoon. it's 12:01. >> thank you, dawn. good afternoon. it's12:01. i'm sophia wenzler in the newsroom . sophia wenzler in the newsroom. israel has received a list of 14 hostages who'll be released from captivity later today . israel's captivity later today. israel's prison service is preparing to release 42 palestinian prisoners in the second phase of the hostage deal . yoni katz asher hostage deal. yoni katz asher has been reunited with his wife, doron katz. asher and their two daughters. raz and aviv , after daughters. raz and aviv, after being taken into captivity for the past seven weeks, 24 hostages were freed yesterday . hostages were freed yesterday. several women and children were

taken to schneider's children's medical centre in israel by helicopter . authorities say helicopter. authorities say they're responding well to medical treatment . medical treatment. >> this is way beyond what you usually think of trauma. and with 30 years of experience, i've treated quite a bit of trauma patients. i think we should ask if this is the only disorder you're going to see and if it's only the children and the israeli children in the combat zone and we know now for certain that this is just the tip of the iceberg . tip of the iceberg. >> palestinians who fled the conflict between israel and hamas have started to return home as fighting pauses in the enclave . the temporary ceasefire enclave. the temporary ceasefire took effect on friday and is expected to continue until monday. meanwhile trucks loaded with humanitarian aid supplies are passing through the rafah crossing. boarding between gaza and egypt by convoy . egypt and egypt by convoy. egypt estimates that 200 trucks will

enter gaza daily during the four day truce . meanwhile, the met day truce. meanwhile, the met police are set to clarify what type of language might break the law when chanted or displayed at pro—palestine marches . tens of pro—palestine marches. tens of thousands of protesters are expected to gather in london today, calling for a permanent ceasefire in gaza . the force ceasefire in gaza. the force will hand out leaflets at the march, warning against using words and images likely to land you in jail . around 1500 you in jail. around 1500 officers will be deployed for the protests, which come amid temporary truce in the israel—hamas conflict. founder and chair of friends of al—aqsa , and chair of friends of al—aqsa, ismail patel, told gb news what protesters hoped to achieve today. protesters hoped to achieve today . russia has hit kyiv with today. russia has hit kyiv with the biggest drone attack of the conflict. so far, according to ukraine's air force, at least five people were injured when sasha drones descended on the capital overnight. explosions could be heard as aircrafts were intercepted with buildings damaged across multiple

districts. ukrainian president vladimir zelenskyy described the strikes as an act of wilful terror . the strikes as an act of wilful terror. the former minneapolis police officer convicted of the death of george floyd has been stabbed in prison while serving his sentence. that's according to us media. 47 year old derek chauvin was reportedly stabbed by another inmate in an arizona prison on friday and seriously injured . the reported incident injured. the reported incident comes days after the supreme court rejected his appeal, where he argued he had not received a fair trial . mr chauvin is fair trial. mr chauvin is serving multiple sentences for george floyd's death in 2020, which triggered widespread protests against police brutality and racism . the first brutality and racism. the first frost has bitten the uk as temperatures fell well below freezing across large parts of the country overnight at the met office says the cold spell could also see snowfall next week. tonight is expected to be the coldest night of the season across the country with subzero temperatures and they could possibly reach minus seven

celsius across northwestern england and in the south and minus four in rural areas in wales . as london's traditional wales. as london's traditional christmas tree has been chosen. and it's standing in impressive 62ft tall, norway's customary christmas gift has been felled ahead of its trip to the caphal ahead of its trip to the capital. it grew in nordmark , to capital. it grew in nordmark, to the forest just north of oslo and will be loaded onto a ship bound for british shores. the tree will arrive in central london this week with festive lights switching on in december the seventh, the norwegian spruce is sent each year as a token of thanks for britain's support during the second world war. this is gb news across the uk on tv in your car, on your digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news now it's back to gb news . saturday >> thank you very much. sophia right. let's get straight into today's topic , shall we?

today's topic, shall we? cracking show coming up for you now. pro—palestinian demonstrators are set to take to the streets for the seventh week in a row, calling for a ceasefire in the israel—hamas conflict. over the course of these demonstrations, police are set to hand out leaflets to provide absolute clarity over what could be deemed as anti—semitic . this comes as anti—semitic. this comes as police ramp up security over fears of escalating violence. joining me to discuss this is gb news political correspondent katherine forster who is live on the march for us. good afternoon , catherine. thank you very much for joining us. can you just forjoining us. can you just tell a little bit it doesn't look too busy behind you at the moment, a little bit of where you are and what's going on? >> yeah. so i'm up at marble arch. the march is due to start properly at 12:30. we'll go down park lane over there, take a left along piccadilly for anyone who knows london. right down trafalgar square. and then we'll end up going down whitehall. it

is due to finish at 5:00. of course, we know, don't we? these marches tend to be very peaceful, very few problems dunng peaceful, very few problems during the day, but often as night falls you have an element that are out for trouble. we've seen it pretty much every week . seen it pretty much every week. so i was talking to police. they've been handing out these leaflets. they're being really quite proactive . they don't want quite proactive. they don't want to arrest people . obviously. to arrest people. obviously. they don't want to inflame tensions further. but they've been making it clear to protesters what is and is not acceptable. so some of the things don't use words or images that incite hatred, that support hamas or any other banned organisation in that celebrate organisation in that celebrate or promote acts of terrorism and also mentions don't use flares or fireworks. we've seen those used in trafalgar square recently threatening words or

aggressive behaviours and also we've seen on social media there's lots of placards , as you there's lots of placards, as you can behind me , but some you can see behind me, but some you see on social media are really very offensive. they're saying if doubt, bin any placard or if in doubt, bin any placard or sign that might break these rules in terms of the chant from the river to the sea, palestine will be free. many people find that very offensive. feel that very offensive. they feel that very offensive. they feel that wipe israel that it's a call to wipe israel and jews off the face of the earth and of course, different people would say it's much more nuanced than that. that's not what police what it means. the police have told don't consider that told me they don't consider that told me they don't consider that to be grounds for arrest. but anybody calling for jihad, that would be a very different matter i >> -- >> and catherine, is there a big police presence there at the moment, as you said? i mean, you are you've commented on many of these marches now. and when darkness falls, it always gets more more lively is probably the polite way of putting it. is there a big police presence there? and the one thing i'm very curious is, is it's down to the ordinary men and women on

the ordinary men and women on the beat to make a decision about what is anti—semitic . about what is anti—semitic. >> yes. well, there's 1500 police on duty today. that's up from 1000 that were on for the first protest. some seven weeks ago when they expected about 10,000 protesters. and the numbers , as we've seen week numbers, as we've seen week after week , have been absolutely after week, have been absolutely huge. you can only imagine what this is costing you know, huge police operation, not just in london, but up and down the country. and, of course, through the world. but yes , you know, the world. but yes, you know, it's they're trying to avoid arrests, but talking to them, it's often up to them to use their judgement to apply a it's often up to them to use theirjudgement to apply a bit of context. they would prefer to not to make arrests, but in terms of the people that are here and why they are here, it's a pro palestine. stop the stop

the war. basically, they want a ceasefire. i was talking a little bit earlier, dr. ishmael patel, he's chairman of friends of al—asqa group. he was telling gb news why he was here today. let's have a look at what he had to say . to say. >> we're here today to highlight that a pause in the ceasefire does not mean freedom for the palestinian people. we need to make sure that there is a total ceasefire, an end to siege and an end to occupation . an end to occupation. >> thank you very much, catherine. and so go on, qatar . catherine. and so go on, qatar. catherine, sorry. thank you very much . sorry is the time delay. much. sorry is the time delay. thank you very much. and obviously, catherine will be bringing us updates throughout the day as to what happens on the day as to what happens on the march. thank you very much for that, catherine. okay. now you can get lots more of that on story on our website. and as i say, catherine will be keeping us updated as and when anything

develops on that march . now develops on that march. now gbnews.com the fastest growing national news website in the uk. that's the address you need. it's got the best analysis as well as catherine's update and opinion as well as all the latest breaking news on every story you need now . should we story you need now. should we have closer ties to the eu foreign secretary and former pm says we should . lord david says we should. lord david cameron says britain needs closer ties with the european union and should work more closely with brussels on international and defence policy. his comments bring backlash from some tory mps who warn him to not reignite the debate over brexit. like it never went away. join me now is political commentator matthew stadlen and former brexit party mep belinda de lucy. to have a little debate about what lord david cameron has said , i'm david cameron has said, i'm going to come to you first on this one. belinda um, you know, reignited the debate. i feel like i have been talking about

brexit since 2016. what do you make of david cameron's comments ? >> 7- >> oh my ? >> oh my gosh, look, david cameron failed to convince the british public of his pro eu arguments seven years ago. >> he failed. >> he failed. >> he failed. >> he no, he no longer has any democratic mandate to take us back in through the back door. >> and unlike dealing with other countries on security and defence pacts, when you're deaung defence pacts, when you're dealing with the eu, you give them an inch. >> they want to centralise everything. they take a mile and they charge their big clunky tank through the doors of democracy . and the problem with democracy. and the problem with arch—remainer is being in these high positions is, is by definition it appears that they're anti—democratic because they're anti —democratic because you they're anti—democratic because you cannot be pro eu and have a love for democracy at the same time, democracy actually stops the eu from working. so to have him in that position, you know, is slightly worrying. he does love the eu . and the other thing love the eu. and the other thing is he loves the international

stage. one of the first things he did when he got the position in was foreign aid. you know, let's unlock billions of dollars and don't look good on the international stage. and now he's doing it again with his eu friends. there's a big, big rift between millions of brits like me who love the nation state, love democracy and sovereignty, and feel rooted in our culture and feel rooted in our culture and politics. like cameron, like sunak , like hunt, who see it as sunak, like hunt, who see it as more of a spreadsheet, who see it more as a springboard into another international job and a long lifetime on the gravy train. >> matthew so , so belinda >> matthew so, so belinda clearly doesn't think david cameron is a sensible appointment as foreign secretary. what do you make of it's an interview, by the way.

it's an interview, by the way. it's an interview, by the way. it's an exclusive interview , i it's an exclusive interview, i think, in one of the papers today. what do you make of or how to follow that? >> belinda? no, listen , i don't >> belinda? no, listen, i don't think cameron's an arch remainer . this is a chap who tried to win serious concessions. he would argue anyway from the european union. he's someone who gave us the right to have a vote on the should be friends with our european neighbours on on defence and international policy who can seriously disagree with that? if you want to stop the boats, one way of doing that is to be getting on better with our european neighbours. so that's one thing. is it, is it? >> how many millions have we given to france? not that much . given to france? not that much. >> not a huge amount. >> not a huge amount. >> a billion is they need us to be for zero. >> we need to get on. it's not

just about money. we need to get on well. this is a big breach in trust. okay. if you leave that block after so many decades, so rebuilding strong relations ships on an individual level and a government level is important if we want to solve the problems of the present and the future commit eu world by the british public. the choice, the eu don't like giving their citizens the choice and asking for consent on their

ever evolving project . david ever evolving project. david cameron gave us the choice. i thank him for that forever. but his reputation has been damaged and i think he wants to repair as fa i know, i'll be corrected if i'm wrong. anything that we did in our admirable help for ukraine that we couldn't have done had we still been part of the european union, but we're revisit being old politics. i think what's really interesting now is that the tory party, you

might say the same to so much troubl of course, you're not really allowed to ask the people of europe whether they want to be in the eu or not. and he was brave and he did that. but instead of embracing it and staying on as prime minister and saying, i back the democratic mandate, he he ran away . and i mandate, he he ran away. and i don't think that was a exceptional look either. and i just worry that his heart isn't in putting british interests first. it's international applause . and if we are

applause. and if we are to believe what we hear from sources within parliament, rishi sunak has been relying increasing heavily on david cameron. >> rishi sunak doesn't know whether he's coming or going in terms of his identity and the identity of his conservative government , because one minute government, because one minute he's got suella braverman there who in my view represents a quite an extreme position. there are davos or whatever our lots wants to do at the moment. he loves this country and values its history

and traditions and national unity and identity , and he would unity and identity, and he would sacrifice a lot for this country. he already has 30 years of service leadership principles , courage of his conviction, no flip flopping . amazing. i'd love flip flopping. amazing. i'd love him to be pm. >> let's see. i can feel i'm not looking at it. i can feel your head kind of exploding to one side here. you don't fancy nigel farage as your prime minister >> absolutely but also >> absolutely not. but also to use expression again, it's use that expression again, it's for that the for the birds. the idea that the tories and nigel farage are going to sort end up in some going to sort of end up in some sort embrace. they sort of embrace. they definitely, are not. definitely, definitely are not. >> who saw david cameron coming back. mean, on. back. i mean, come on. >> or us leaving the eu. but they're not even. >> hang on. rishi sunak has >> hang on. even rishi sunak has limits. i hope. but also on this more serious issue of nigel farage, we were both presenters on the same radio station and we used to talk to each other because i'm someone who wants to know as it were, what the other side he and he is side think. and he and he is what should he he, what it should be. and he he, i think, the same view. and we think, had the same view. and we were perfectly cordial each were perfectly cordial with each other. that's how i think we should business when should do business when we disagree but

disagree with people. but that doesn't stop me from saying that some stuff that he has some of the stuff that he has said, poster he has stood said, a poster that he has stood in of, example, in front of, for example, is immensely inflammatory . he sows immensely inflammatory. he sows hate and is divisive. and we need to have a prime minister who can bring this country together, not continue along the divisive lines that we've been witnessing . witnessing. >> there is not a chance i would ever describe nigel as far right or hate or racist, and or full of hate or racist, and i've worked him very i've worked with him very closely. i met him when 19 closely. i met him when i was 19 and decades ago, and with brexit party was most diverse party in in the european parliament full of different cultures, races, religions. none of us would have worked with nigel if thought worked with nigel if we thought that he was suspicious. and that poster from the poster that was taken from the guardian is actually guardian and it is actually factually happening, he knew what undocumented nigel knew what undocumented nigel knew what he was doing coming into countries. we don't know who they are and it's right be they are and it's right to be concerned. racist. concerned. it's not racist. >> what he knew what he >> he knew what he knew what he was who was signalling was doing, who he was signalling to. and indeed, lots of people was doing, who he was signalling to. thei indeed, lots of people was doing, who he was signalling to. the on deed, lots of people was doing, who he was signalling to. the on the 1, lots of people was doing, who he was signalling to. the on the brexit of people was doing, who he was signalling to. the on the brexit campaign . on the on the brexit campaign. they separated themselves out from that poster about a year

ago . nigel tweeted it seemed to ago. nigel tweeted it seemed to me in dismay the idea. and he was wrong about it at the time. but the that london was no longer a majority white city. i'm a londoner, born and bred. i don't give two hoots the colour of the skin of the people that i live next to. nigel farage seems to that is not someone i think is fit to be prime minister. >> but what do you answer to belinda's point about going back to that poster which everybody bnngs to that poster which everybody brings a group brings up? it did depict a group of young working age men and it's it it has i'm playing devil's advocate here. i'm completely neutral on this one. but it does appear to have predicted what is happening now. what we are seeing . okay. what we are seeing. okay. >> let me answer that straight on. we've seen net migration figures in the 6 or 700,000 or whatever they are at the moment. so actual migration figures into this country are about 1.2 million. so you subtract the number of people who leave. it's a large number of people.

a very large number of people. the numbers coming out the size of birmingham basically it's of birmingham, basically it's a very the numbers very large number. the numbers of over of people who are coming over on the this of the boats and this idea of breaking from illegal breaking point from from illegal immigration they breaking point from from illegal imr dwarfed they breaking point from from illegal imr dwarfed by they breaking point from from illegal imr dwarfed by those they breaking point from from illegal imrdwarfed by those numbers. iey are dwarfed by those numbers. now, that mean that i now, that doesn't mean that i don't think this government should grip on the boats should get a grip on the boats because they're dangerous and we need proper in because they're dangerous and we nee asylum. proper in because they're dangerous and we nee asylum. totally r in because they're dangerous and we nee asylum. totally different.1 for asylum. totally different. we deal that. we need to deal with that. but it we are at it doesn't mean that we are at breaking point. we're not at breaking point. we're not at breaking point. >> they're criminals, rapists, murderers. many won't be. some will is, is there will be. the point is, is there undocumented don't think undocumented? and i don't think it a lot of it sits well with a lot of british people having hundreds of men from of thousands of young men from very violent, often unstable nations, some with mental health. >> did you hear what i just said, belinda? >> i said the government needs to get a grip on the boats and they are not going to happen with of cameron and with the likes of cameron and sunak charles. sunak and charles. >> we it happened. >> happen with >> it didn't happen with braverman, his home secretary either did it because whole either did it because the whole machinery rejects. machinery of the tory rejects. that's what that's what she that's would argue. the that's what she would argue. the fact have to the dirty fact is you have to do the dirty nitty gritty going after nitty gritty work of going after these which are evil. these gangs, which are evil. you have european have to work with our european neighbours. you have to do

everything secure the everything you can to secure the borders. they've wasted borders. instead, they've wasted all on a rwanda plan all this energy on a rwanda plan that going to well as that isn't going to work well as long you keep framing common long as you keep framing common sense and moderate centrist ideas just controlling your ideas like just controlling your borders and having sustainable immigration somehow far immigration as somehow far right. i didn't say that. i said they need to, but i need does or anti—immigrant. >> this is what pushes the far right europe is because right in europe is because liberals will not have this conversation and they tell everyone that they're bigots and racists i feel racists for daring to say i feel unsafe with open borders and undocumented men . it is a very, undocumented men. it is a very, very centrist , moderate point of very centrist, moderate point of view. >> you find many people in this country who suggest that we should not be tackling the problem people coming over on problem of people coming over on boats. of course we should refuse to make the bold decisions to stop it. that's why you mean illegal decision? do you mean illegal decision? do you mean, do you mean decisions like have been found like rwanda that have been found to illegal the supreme court? >> those treaties are outdated . >> those treaties are outdated. they right. they are not. right. >> our international >> we give up our international obligations. i think we all obligations. i think we make all of safe. our of us safe. i think our international obligations help all to be safe.

all of us to be safe. >> they're too cowardly and also and also to also and also to be and also to be a society decent, that we society that is decent, that we can our heads up high. can hold our heads up high. >> you've both got great arguments. one at a time, arguments. just one at a time, though. matthew, though. please, matthew, carry on. no, think we've got to >> no, i think we've got to uphold our international obligations. uphold our international obugafions. idea uphold our international obligations. idea we uphold our international obligto ons. idea we uphold our international obligto become idea we uphold our international obligto become aiea we uphold our international obligto become a sort we uphold our international obligto become a sort of we uphold our international obligto become a sort of little want to become a sort of little fringe country and tear up the european on human european convention on human rights leave the european court of human rights. this is the road to disaster to and perdition. we were become increasingly irrelevant. we can we've left the european union. we've done so relatively successfully. we've we've had not quite a clean break, but we've we've made progress . that we've we've made progress. that doesn't mean that we give up on some of the principles that that upholster and underpin our society. yes getting control of the boats but don't do so in a way that makes us an international laughing stock of human international laughing stock of hurwhat international >> what about international chums some chums and impressing them? some of treaties put british of these treaties put british people at risk. our safety at

risk, our security at risk, and they burden our infrastructure so they need changing and they are too cowardly to change them. the people who come over on these boats , they shouldn't be these boats, they shouldn't be on the boats in the first place. >> but those that do come over, belinda, they are processed by our home office, our home office is known for being liberal, is not known for being liberal, not not not fit for purpose. it's not known does known for being liberal. it does seem but seem to be encompassed. but that's had that's partly because we've had 13 governments 13 years of tory governments that have not been able to get a grip on this. >> matthew on this. grip on this. >> matthew andthis. grip on this. >> matthew and we'll agree grip on this. >> disagree. and we'll agree grip on this. >>disagree. pointingz'll agree grip on this. >>diunder. pointingz'll agree grip on this. >>diunder. previousgz'll agree grip on this. >>diunder. previous labour|ree that under the previous labour government that under the previous labour gover|asent that under the previous labour gover|as we'll see. that under the previous labour govwe|s we'll see. that under the previous labour govwe canz'll see. that under the previous labour govwe canz'll here in a year's >> we can sit here in a year's time see how labour on time and see how labour get on because goodness they will be because by goodness they will be the on with oh the ones getting on with it. oh fighting talk. >> thank much. to. >> thank you so much. used to. you are absolutely brilliant. >> thank you so much. used to. you so; absolutely brilliant. >> thank you so much. used to. you so glad )lutely brilliant. >> thank you so much. used to. you so glad you're brilliant. >> thank you so much. used to. you so glad you're withiant. >> thank you so much. used to. you so glad you're with me. >> thank you so much. used to. you so glad you're with me this i'm so glad you're with me this afternoon. right. you are watching listening to gb watching and listening to gb news saturday with me. dawn neesom. coming up on neesom. lots more coming up on the and it's going to be as the show and it's going to be as feisty that first, feisty as that was. but first, let's take a look at the weather with shall we? with greg, shall we? >> there. i'm greg >> hello there. i'm greg dewhurst welcome your dewhurst and welcome to your latest weather forecast. latest gb news weather forecast. >> on the cold >> it is staying on the cold side we through the rest side as we move through the rest of weekend. frost returning of the weekend. frost returning tonight, but we will have rain

moving in from the atlantic and we bigger we could see that on the bigger picture. moves picture. high pressure moves away through into the away as we head through into the second the weekend, second half of the weekend, replaced low pressure replaced by low pressure bringing outbreaks of rain turning chilly this evening for many areas as skies, clear temperatures will tumble away, however, into the early hours. thicker cloud will move into the far west. outbreaks of rain moving into parts of northern ireland. so mist and fog patches ahead of the rain and temperatures. well, towns and cities close to freezing below freezing the country side, —4 freezing in the country side, —4 or —5 celsius is possible . all or —5 celsius is possible. all but it means a sunny start with those fog patches still around first thing further north and east, thicker cloud in the west, outbreaks of rain moving in and this slowly pushing its way eastwards through the day. best of the sunshine holding on across parts of scotland. thicker cloud developing elsewhere and the winds just

starting to increase across the far southwest as milder approaches here, 11 or 12 celsius. but elsewhere , cold day celsius. but elsewhere, cold day once more, 4 or 5 degrees at best into monday. that low pressure still around, giving outbreaks of showery rain across england and wales in particular, some heavy bursts, possible brighter skies for northern ireland and scotland. but quite windy across some eastern coast and it stays unsettled as we move through this week with further outbreaks of rain and temperatures on the cold side . temperatures on the cold side. >> thank you very much, greg. now lots more coming up on today's show . israeli security today's show. israeli security officials have said 14 hostages will be released in exchange for

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>> it's 1231. britain's one news. channel >> it's1231. i'm sophia wenzel in the newsroom . israel has in the newsroom. israel has received a list of 14 hostages who'll be released from captivity later today . israel's captivity later today. israel's prison service is preparing to release 42 palestinian prisoners in the second phase of the hostage deal . yoni katz asher hostage deal. yoni katz asher has been reunited with his wife, doron katz. asher and their daughters. raz genevieve, after being taken into captivity for the past seven weeks. 24 hostages were freed yesterday . hostages were freed yesterday. several women and children were taken to schneider children's medical centre in israel by helicopter. all authorities say they're responding well to medical treatment . meanwhile the

medical treatment. meanwhile the met police are set to clarify what type of language might break the law when chanted or displayed pro—palestinian displayed at pro—palestinian marches. thousands of marches. tens of thousands of protesters are expected to gather in london today calling for a permanent ceasefire in gaza. the will hand out gaza. the force will hand out leaflets at the neesom on your tv, online and on digital radio. now israeli security officials have said 14 hostages will be released in exchange for 42 palestinian prisoners today dunng 42 palestinian prisoners today during a temporary truce between israel and hamas. this comes as the first 24 hostages were set free yesterday, including women and children. belgium in netanyahu's office have said they are reviewing a list of captives that could be freed over the next 24 hours. joining me now is former head of counter terrorism at the mod major—general chip chapman.

thank you very much for joining us today. major chapman , what do us today. major chapman, what do you make of what we have seen so far in the hostage and prisoner exchange ? exchange? >> well, it's partial at the moment because there are 240 hostages. >> so you have to define ultimately what is mission success and mission failure in terms of the release of the hostages . now, really, there are hostages. now, really, there are three groups. >> the israeli children and mothers. that's really the group which is being targeted in this truce at the moment. >> the second group is the foreign nationals and the third group, the most difficult really is the israeli soldiers. so i don't really see them all being released , although it's worth released, although it's worth saying that yesterday the un did renew its call for the immediate

and unconditional release of all hostages because of course it is not an act of war to take hostages under article 34 of the geneva convention. >> so really the key question is what happens the day after on day 4 or 5 when the initial agreement about 50 hostages expires ? expires? >> and i would expect, of course, there to be renewed fighting for that because the israeli objectives have not yet been being clarified in terms of them being a succeeding. and that means that they must destroy the hamas military capability city and secure their borders to prevent the rocket fire and ultimately, that means annihilating hamas in ethical combat . combat. >> so there have been obviously understandable, joyful scenes on both sides and, you know, you can only imagine what it must be like for the hostages being released, who have been held in

tunnels since october the 7th. and obviously, children who are coming out to find that they no longer have moms and dads. their lives have been changed beyond belief. so there are joyful scenes, but a lot you know, a lot of people saying this is a positive sign of hope. but i'm getting from has talked about, for example, a palestine state with jerusalem as its capital. the leader of hamas in in in gaza, sinwar will fight to the end and the beirut, lebanon , part of the beirut, lebanon, part of hamas still wants to annihilate israel and drive it from the sea. >> so the leverage in that sense comes from the qataris in doha

over haniya . over haniya. >> and whether he can convince the other elements to release more hostages and therefore elongate the truce . but there's elongate the truce. but there's too many strands there for this too many strands there for this to mean that it will lead to a ceasefire . and of course, you ceasefire. and of course, you can only really have a ceasefire if it is a ceasefire with purpose. that is all the hostages released and some sort of strand, which leads to talks for the future for where hamas in particular must renounce its its claims on driving israel into the sea and annihilate them from the face of the earth , from the face of the earth, which has been the mission statement from day one. >> and they're not gone back on that. and obviously , if they that. and obviously, if they release all the hostages , they release all the hostages, they have no bargaining power anymore

. there's nothing to stop israel going in there. and carrying on with with what is a very brutal attack . attack. >> yeah. and the key thing is, if you look historically, of course, gilad shalit, the israeli soldier who was captured a few years ago , he was released a few years ago, he was released for 1000 prisoners. now most of the palestinians who've been released at the moment were are sort of women and under 19 who are in pre—trial detention, they're not the really , really, they're not the really, really, really bad terrorists who are involved in killing israelis. that's when you get to the real problems of the denouement of trying to trade israeli soldiers for elements. but for those sorts of elements. but you've tension you've got this tension in israel, all the israel, this trade off all the time wasn't acceptable time between wasn't acceptable cost , the israeli cost to the idf, the israeli defence and an acceptable defence force and an acceptable cost to the home front in terms of hostages and that is the of the hostages and that is the trade off because each day of the does potentially allow the pause does potentially allow hamas regroup and therefore hamas to regroup and therefore could off idf, the israeli

could trade off idf, the israeli defence force lives against the lives of the hostages. makes lives of the hostages. it makes things difficult things more difficult for the israelis particularly israelis, particularly the cessation the moment from cessation at the moment from 10:00 4:00, six hours of 10:00 till 4:00, six hours of the aerial surveillance over gaza, which does allow hamas to sort of do things that they couldn't if aerial umbrella couldn't if that aerial umbrella was it has was there permanently, as it has been over. been since december over. >> mean , this this >> so, i mean, this this particular hostage prisoner particular hostage and prisoner handover say, handover has been, as you say, negotiated by qatar. also the us and so way it deal. so the only way now it appears to most of us is for foreign powers to sort this mess out because the two sides are never going to be able to sit down out, never going to be able to sit dovthey? out, never going to be able to sit dovthey? well out, never going to be able to sit dovthey? well the out, never going to be able to sit dovthey? well the second never going to be able to sit dov after. well the second day after. >> so the first day after i alluded after alluded to was what comes after the truce. and the current four day truce. and that fighting the second that is more fighting the second day after is when the conflict ends and all conflict ends. what comes next? now that at the moment is still a wicked problem, which they've said there are probably four ways you could go at the moment. there are probably four ways you could go at the moment . firstly, could go at the moment. firstly, either the palestinian authority comes back into the gaza, there are people in israeli right wing who absolutely oppose that. secondly, that egypt takes over gaza again as it once did many years ago . the egyptians years ago. the egyptians currently oppose that. the third

one is you have some sort of international entity that based on the eu, the un or nato that comes in and does that. that's what they tried to do with lebanon in 2006. but under 1701, un security council resolution 1701, the hezbollah was supposed to go north of the litani river . to go north of the litani river. they didn't do that. the real world suggests is that gaza is no longer to be fit for purpose because if you try to rebuild it, most of it is going to collapse into the tunnels underneath which hamas have built. one of the sort of built. so one of the sort of left of field notions is that you build some sort of artificial island is artificial island which is separated from israel because of the sea. and it would actually probably be easier to do that than trying to rebuild gaza. and thatis than trying to rebuild gaza. and that is one of the problems, of course, because you're still going have this real problem going to have this real problem internally displaced people where do they all go? because it doesn't look like other countries, arab countries want to take the palestinians. and that's partly because the gulf arab states, for example , hate

arab states, for example, hate them because of the muslim brotherhood link, and they're bannedin brotherhood link, and they're banned in most of those gulf countries. >> thank you very much. that's major general chip chapman there, former head of counter—terrorism, the mod. thank you very much for joining us afternoon. exactly us this afternoon. not exactly an optimistic viewpoint either, is it? right. but you are watching and listening to gb news saturday with me. dawn neesom. more coming up on neesom. lots more coming up on today's show, shock waves have been felt across the political landscape of europe week as landscape of europe this week as the nationalist the right wing nationalist candidate, wilders won the candidate, geert wilders won the dutch election with his victory. we will see more nationalist governments springing up around europe won't we? more of that europe or won't we? more of that coming up. you're watching and listening to gb news on britain's news channel. don't go too far

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there? what's going. on >> hello. good afternoon. certainly the festival atmosphere is well in full swing. now. we can see behind me that all the stalls are out, all the delicious treats and sticky goodness that, you know, glasgow has come to expect of this time of the year. and certainly this has been a long time coming for the people of glasgow. they've had to go without somewhat for a wee while now. glasgow city council will they've really held back on a lot of the civic festivities over the last few months, including our annual fireworks show . also that the

fireworks show. also that the council could put more money into the festive celebrations. and behind me , well, you can see and behind me, well, you can see just part of the result background, lots of opportunity to pay towards charity. it's the clutha trust who has taken over donations here at winterfest this year. don't know if anyone remembers around ten years ago it was a horrible tragedy at the clutha pub here in glasgow where a helicopter fell, unfortunately into the building. well, ten years later they are now

collecting money so that they can give back to the needy people of glasgow with much well received hundred pound voucher towards utility . but for now, towards utility. but for now, everyone's enjoying themselves. mulled wine, potato , twizzlers mulled wine, potato, twizzlers and all. >> that sounds absolutely great. so just quickly, is it on every day and is it just free to walk around? i'm assuming just pay for the rides and things separately ? separately? >> yes, that's absolutely right. so it's free to come to both of the arenas here in squinter and overin the arenas here in squinter and over in george square. and as you say , it's just a few pounds you say, it's just a few pounds for each of the rides. and that money, as i said , goes towards money, as i said, goes towards the clutha trust. but how could you not come here and treat yourself to some of the crips and the sweet treats and offer? >> it looks lovely, tony. thank you very much. and the next time we see you, we won't see you on

theice we see you, we won't see you on the ice rink doing a live link from the ice rink. thank you very much. that's tony maguire at glasgow's winter festivals . at glasgow's winter festivals. wonderful as well. i'm already fancying wine . don't fancying a mulled wine. don't know about you now. shockwaves have across the have been felt across the political landscape europe political landscape of europe this right wing this week as the right wing nationalist candidate here builder, won the dutch election , builder, won the dutch election, he ran on a platform which included linking muslim immigration with terrorism and called for a ban on mosques and the quran with his victory, will we see more nationalist governments springing around governments springing up around europe, is this just europe, though, or is this just a joining me now is a one off? joining me now is professor political science professor of political science at webster vienna at the webster vienna university, ralph schollhammer . university, ralph schollhammer. mr schollhammer, thank you very much us today . mr schollhammer, thank you very much us today. i much for joining us today. i appreciate your time. could you just explain a little bit about what i mean, this what has happened? i mean, this to it seems sort to us over here, it seems sort of a surprise, but of like a bit of a surprise, but from i'm hearing dutch from what i'm hearing from dutch friends, expected result. friends, it was expected result. >> well , thank you so much for >> well, thank you so much for having me. i do think it still is a little bit a surprise is a little bit of a surprise because if we look polls because if we look at the polls until result was until october, a good result was to be expected for geert wilders i >> -- >> but such lama >> but such a result

>> expected. a result definitely) be expected. so that definitely is effect of the is an aftershock effect of the things happened in israel things that happened in israel on october i mean, has on october 7th. i mean, this has really the entire really changed the entire conversation about migration from to poland. and of from portugal to poland. and of course, the us and great course, also in the us and great britain. effects are britain. so these effects are definitely playing significant definitely playing a significant role in the right wing shift that observing role in the right wing shift that europe. observing all over europe. >> as the >> he's been described as the dutch trump and to be dutch donald trump and to be fair, he does have shock of fair, he does have the shock of blonde you describe blonde hair. would you describe that description ? that as an accurate description? >> no, i think it's a little unfair wilders unfair because he had wilders is the dutch parliament. entered unfair because he had wilders is thin)utch parliament. entered unfair because he had wilders is thin)utch soliament. entered unfair because he had wilders is thin)utch so he nent. entered unfair because he had wilders is thin)utch so he basicallyantered it in 1998. so he basically has been dutch trump before it in 1998. so he basically has been was dutch trump before it in 1998. so he basically has been was dut american before it in 1998. so he basically has been wasdutamerican before in there was an american trump in politics. . they politics. i agree with you. they have flamboyant style . have the same flamboyant style. and so they have the same kind of you know, humour and of, you know, humour and populist approach to politics. but ways they are but in many ways they are different, where you different, of course, where you are correct is that at least also donald in 2016. also for donald trump in 2016. so also for hannah wilde us now the topic is, is migration . the main topic is, is migration. and for most europeans , and for most europeans, migration has been the key issue in voting since the mid 1990s. so i have to say when news reporters say this is the far right , it's the far reporters say this is the far right, it's the far right to reporters say this is the far right , it's the far right to the right, it's the far right to the eyes of the media and the

political establishment . but for political establishment. but for many people, his positions are just common sense. and i think these people are now less shy in voting and voting for these parties and voicing their opinion. so this is believe that what we is why i believe that what we saw netherlands is just saw in the netherlands is just the will be the beginning. it will be followed events next followed by similar events next year austria. it will be year in austria. it will be followed by events followed by similar events in 2025, germany and potentially 2025, in germany and potentially also the next also during the next presidential elections in france, where marine le pen and her party are already surging in the polls and in popularity. >> and do you think the main driver of this is the migration issue ? well i think migration issue? well i think migration has always been a main driver, but in the past, the problem was that people kind of felt uncomfortable in talking about the discomfort they feel with immigration. >> but after what happened, particularly with the demonstrations in major european cities in connection with the atrocities committed by hamas in israel and the pro—palestinian , israel and the pro—palestinian, you know, demonstrations that were very, very close to being pro—hamas demonstrations, i

think that that china's that hesitation has fallen away. so i think the likelihood of people who are kind of on the edge of voting for a right wing populist parties, i think is significant. a number of them is now kind of going over the edge and will vote for them in the next election. >> now, the dutch in particular across europe, have reputation across europe, have a reputation for liberal their for being very liberal in their views. it's not maybe as it's views. so it's not maybe as it's more surprising than countries like, you know, poland and hungary , which are also sort of hungary, which are also sort of like swung to the right recently, is it is it the rural communities that are swinging this vote more to the right in holland? oh, yeah, absolutely. >> i mean, there is a rural urban divide all over europe just to give you one number. right. overall in in the netherlands, geert wilders party got 23% in amsterdam . they got 23% in amsterdam. they barely got got got 9. so this tells you a little bit about this. and the left wing coalition got 28. so, yes, like the urban areas are significantly more left leaning than the rural areas . and this than the rural areas. and this divide become more

divide will become more pronounced, i believe, in the years to that years to come, so that the cities be kind of these cities will be kind of these quote left leaning quote unquote, left leaning liberal fortresses , whereas the liberal fortresses, whereas the countryside and the smaller city and rural areas will shift further to the right. >> ralph, thank you very much for joining us this afternoon. that's schollhammer, that's ralph schollhammer, assistant professor political assistant professor of political science at the vienna science at the webster vienna private university. you are watching and listening to gb news saturday with me. dawn neesom lots more to come on today's show. but first, let's take a look at what that weather's doing with greg. >> hello there. i'm greg dewhurst and welcome to your latest gb news weather forecast. it is staying on the cold side as through rest of as we move through the rest of the weekend. frost returning tonight, have rain tonight, but we will have rain moving the atlantic and moving in from the atlantic and we could see that the bigger we could see that on the bigger picture. high pressure moves away as we head through into the second half of the weekend. replaced pressure replaced by low pressure bringing outbreaks of rain turning chilly this evening for many areas as skies, clear temperatures will tumble away. however into the early hours.

thicker cloud will move into the far west. outbreaks of rain moving into parts of northern ireland. so mist and fog patches ahead of the rain and temperatures well , towns and temperatures well, towns and cities to freezing below cities close to freezing below freezing in the countryside, minus 4 or —5 celsius is possible , but it means a sunny possible, but it means a sunny start with those fog patches still around first thing further north and east, thicker cloud in the west, outbreaks of rain moving in and this slowly pushing its way eastwards through the day. best of the sunshine holding on across parts of scotland. thicker cloud developing elsewhere and the winds just starting to increase across the far southwest as milder approach is here, 11 or 12 celsius, but elsewhere, cold day more , 4 or 5 degrees at day once more, 4 or 5 degrees at best into monday. that low pressure still around, giving outbreaks of showery rain across england and wales in particular, some heavy bursts, possible brighter skies for northern ireland and scotland, but quite windy across some eastern coast and it stays unsettled as we move through week with move through this week with further outbreaks of rain and temperatures cold side. temperatures on the cold side.

thank you very much, greg. >> now lots more coming up on today's show. pro—palestinian demonstrators are taking to the streets for the seventh week in demonstrators are taking to the st rows for the seventh week in demonstrators are taking to the st row callingz seventh week in demonstrators are taking to the strow callingz seaenth week in demonstrators are taking to the strow callingz sea ceasefire in a row calling for a ceasefire in the our the israel—hamas conflict. our reporter katherine forster will be there live. all of that and much, much more to come. i'm dawn neesom and you're watching and listening to gb news, britain's news

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company on tv, online and on digital radio. keeping you up to date on the stories that really matter to you. coming up this houn matter to you. coming up this hour, pro palestinian demonstrators are taking . demonstrators are taking. >> good afternoon . it's 1:01. >> good afternoon. it's 1:01. i'm sophia wenzler in the newsroom. israel has received a list of 14 hostages who'll be released from captivity later today. released from captivity later today . israel's prison service

today. israel's prison service is preparing to release 42 palestinian prisoners in the second phase of the hostage deal , jani katz asher has good condition

at least five people were injured when shahed drones descended on the capital overnight. explosions could be heard as the aircrafts were interceptor aid, with buildings damaged across multiple districts. uk ukrainian president volodymyr zelenskyy described the strikes as a wilful act of terror . the first

wilful act of terror. the first frost has bitten the uk as temperatures fell well below freezing across large parts of the country overnight . the met the country overnight. the met office says the cold spell could also see snowfall next week . also see snowfall next week. tonight is expected to be the coldest night of the season across the country with subzero temperatures and they could possibly reach minus seven across northwestern england and in the south >> thank you very much, sophia. now let's get straight into today's . it turns out net today's. it turns out net migration has actually gone down to 672,000, but only because the

figure for the previous year has been revised to show that net migration actually hit a record level of 745,000. lots of figures . level of 745,000. lots of figures. sorry about that. in any case, the bottom line is it's put rishi sunak under renewed pressure from his party as tory mps are demanding action from ministers to bring down the numbers. now we're talking legal migration and these aren't the boats, by the way. these are legal migration. joining me now is immigration lawyer ivan sampson and former leader of ukip, henry bolton . thank you ukip, henry bolton. thank you very much for joining ukip, henry bolton. thank you very much forjoining me, gentlemen. now . it has 65 gp

gentlemen. now. it has 65 gp surgeries, six hospitals, four specialist medical clinics, 13 police stations, 141 care homes, 132 primary schools, 50 secondary schools. now, if you in the last 24 months, just to match the numbers that have come in, we would have had to have provided that sort of infrastructure, those sort of pubuc infrastructure, those sort of public services twice . acas so

public services twice. acas so instead of 132 prime primary schools, 264 more, then you've got a train and recruit and train the staff for such facilities. the 13 police stations, is then you've got low skilled workers just to give you an example, dawn, of where we are with that a senior care worker working in the uk is going to be on the minimum wage of £11.44 as it is now. however for somebody who comes in from abroad on a low skilled visa is going to be paid £7, 63 per hour

. and so we are we're we're bringing in effectively slave labourin bringing in effectively slave labour in a way or certainly exploiting this . and it's not exploiting this. and it's not the individual who benefits actually . there are businesses actually. there are businesses making a great deal of money out of this. for example, the agencies that provide agency care workers and other staff. and the same in the and it's the same in the agricultural sector , the science agricultural sector, the science sector and so on. 80 on a low skilled visa , you get 80% of the skilled visa, you get 80% of the normal salary. for that, you'd normally expect. if you were a brit. and obviously that starts to price brits out of the market as well . so there are all it. now, t

as well. so there are all it. now, t point. the other, if you look if you look at the numbers, the bulk of them are students. and skilled workers . and this is the skilled workers. and this is the point . they're net contributors point. they're net contributors to our economy. if we reduce it, let's say we didn't let anybody in next year and let's not have these students that will have these students that will have these migrant workers. well, let's bring it down to the tens of thousands. it will leave a hole in our economy close to about £100 billion. the biggest benefactors of these people are the british people themselves . the british people themselves. and we have to remember that students, 80% of them return home under the figures . but let home under the figures. but let me tell you, these figures are a temporary spike. dawn if you

look at the migration observatory report by oxford university, you'll see the trend over the next ten years is going to see them come steadily down, down to about 300,000 a year. and so this is the spike has been brought out . but because of been brought out. but because of the ukraine, because of the hong kong visa system . so i think kong visa system. so i think over the next 5 to 10 years, you'll see these figures come right down to around about 300,000. i'll send you the report, henry. have a good read of it and you'll see that i say, henry , you'll see that the henry, you'll see that the figures are just a temporary spike. there is no crisis. when's the last time we went to a hospital and you saw english doctors ? you just don't. our nhs doctors? you just don't. our nhs system is propped up by migrant workers. and if we should be

grateful that they're here looking after us instead of complaining and alienating them . complaining and alienating them. >> henry i'm not alienating anybody. i'm just laying out the facts and the heading for the government's website that lays out the rates of pay for skilled workers . sorry to meet the workers. sorry to meet the skilled worker shortage is actually it's called that the skilled worker visa shortage occupations updated on the 7th of august 2023. you can google that and i'm quite happy to let gb news or anybody else have the link . it's gb news or anybody else have the link. it's right here in front

of me . and so , okay, maybe of me. and so, okay, maybe there's some confusion about that , but there's some confusion about that, but that's there's some confusion about that , but that's the government that, but that's the government website . the other thing is if website. the other thing is if website. the other thing is if we look at, for example, the nhs, i hear this argument all the time that we need foreign workers to come in and fill the gapsin workers to come in and fill the gaps in our hospitals. workers to come in and fill the gaps in our hospitals . well, you gaps in our hospitals. well, you know what? if you're a filipino nurse or you're studying for the government in the philippines, will pay for your training, will pay will pay for your training, will pay for all of that education, and then you can sign up with an agency that will bring you across here and we'll go into the nhs here on a work visa . the the nhs here on a work visa. the answer to this is not is not to bnngin answer to this is not is not to bring in cheap agency workers, . so t bring in cheap agency workers,. so t bannau this any longer. there is

an issue of integration. we are now bringing in. last year, three quarters of a million people. the vast majority of whom through no fault of their own, are coming from other cultures with other different sort of social norms which i don't judge, but they are different wherever different to ours. and wherever you have such a situation, you end up with a certain amount of tension friction and beyond tension or friction and beyond a certain point that's not manageable and to an extent that is, and i don't in any way justify or excuse that horrendous those horrendous riots in dublin. but what you end up with is social tension , end up with is social tension, and that does spill over and governments need to start listening to their populations. they're not at the moment. >> ivan, what would you say to that? i think it is a it is a fair point that people are and having their they're frightened of being called racist because they're frightened to raise the worries they have about worries that they have about britain, the uk losing its

culture, losing its national identity. what would you say to that? >> well, look, i've integrated quite nicely into the british economy. i'm a foreigner. i wasn't born here, but i was educated here. i qualify here as a lawyer. and i set up a business and i employ lots of people. so if there's a good success story for you, henry and look, do you hear this bluster, this right wing bluster, there's no right wing, no data . it is no right wing, no data. it is right wing bluster. henry you know it. and with no data to backit know it. and with no data to back it up at all. where is where is this tension? why where's the data? tell me about this social cohesion . no, it's this social cohesion. no, it's alienating people who've come here to benefit our country and i think if you ask rishi sunak, he's integrated nicely as well. and many people will do the same. they will come here,

they'll work, they'll pay their way. they will not take benefits out, and they will contribute to our economy . and also our economy. and also having different people from around the world. it's good for us. it's good for our culture. >> i'm not i'm not henry. >> i'm not i'm not henry. >> i'm not i'm not henry. >> i'm not. anti immigration in i am past, but but on this i

think your fundamental or you're being disingenuous uus in saying that there is no evidence out there for social tension. there is and dublin showed it. it is not right wing for people and communities in south wales, in

the money money for our country. sorry ivan, can i just ask you one one question? >> we're running out of time, unfortunately. do you believe there should be any limit set on legal migration figures ? legal migration figures? >> i think the markets are going to determine it. look if we can

fill it with resident jobs , we fill it with resident jobs, we should. but if we can't fill our doctors and nurses and care workers and skilled workers , workers and skilled workers, what do we do? we've got to employ them from somewhere . and employ them from somewhere. and so we should have a long term policy to employ home grown people to do these jobs . but for people to do these jobs. but for now, i'm afraid we need foreign migrants to do the work . migrants to do the work. >> gentlemen, thank you both . >> gentlemen, thank you both. very passionate debate. we're running out of time . running out of time. unfortunately. that's ivan sampson. immigration lawyer and henry bolton, chief british political action conference.

thank you very much for joining us this afternoon. and you can get lots more of that story on our website right now, gbnews.com. that's the fastest growing national news website in the uk, by the way. just saying it's got the best analysis and opinion as well as the latest breaking news for you now is israeli security officials have said 14 hostages will be released in exchange for 42 palestinian prisoners today dunng palestinian prisoners today during a temporary truce between israel and hamas. during a temporary truce between israel and hamas . this comes as israel and hamas. this comes as the first 24 hostages were set free yesterday , including women free yesterday, including women and children . seeing some and children. seeing some pictures there. benjamin netanyahu's office have said they are reviewing a list of

captives that could be freed over the next 24 hours. joining me now is former the west bank, which was already a is going to increase as a result of it and perhaps even more serious, the lack of momentum, the delay in momentum of the israeli operation to destroy hamas carries with it certain risks . and i think the biggest risks. and i think the biggest risks. and i think the biggest risk is that this ceasefire, this temporary ceasefire will develop into a permanent ceasefire without hamas being destroyed . interesting thing, destroyed. interesting thing, because israel did say that with the release of the palestinian prisoners who were then taken to the west bank, that they weren't to celebrate. >> and we have and we have seen

footage of the exact opposite happening. and many of the flags that were being waved were actually the hamas flags rather than the palestinian flags. when you see scenes like that, you know, the small, maybe shoots of hope that we have for any settlement peaceful in this situation . often when you see situation. often when you see those sort of scenes, does it make you worry for what happens when this this pause in hostilities is over. >> yeah. i mean , you're >> yeah. i mean, you're absolutely right. and i think the idea that you could forbid people celebrating is just people from celebrating is just dreaming, dreaming, really, that was always going to be the case. and i'm sure the israelis knew that despite the comments they made. and as i mentioned, hamas is very popular in not only in gaza, where it is extremely popular , but also in the west popular, but also in the west bank, where it has the majority . bank, where it has the majority. you know, if there was an election today or even a few months back , hamas versus fatah,

months back, hamas versus fatah, the other major political party in terror oblique political party in the west bank and hamas would win hands down. and of course, all of that. what that indicates, i think, is that even when this war is completed, however it ends in gaza, you still got enormous division and hatred for israel. the very idea that we could be looking at some kind of, you know , two state kind of, you know, two state solution or peace settlement in the middle east is just cloud cuckoo land as far as i'm concerned. it it the prospect of that does not exist. it's wishful thinking. >> this this process of the handover has been negotiated by qatar, us and egypt . they've qatar, us and egypt. they've brokered this particular deal. what are your thoughts for going forward for the remainder of the hostages? because if hamas released the hostages , then they released the hostages, then they have no more bargaining chips. do they ? do they? >> absolutely. right. it's the

most important weapon they have today. they have two main weapons. the first one is the hostage , which obviously is hostage, which obviously is their completely at their disposal. and they are , you disposal. and they are, you know, they're sacrificial lambs, in effect , for hamas. and the in effect, for hamas. and the second one is the palestinian civilian population that there are other weapon who are also sacrificial lambs. they're not interested . they don't care, interested. they don't care, certainly don't care about the hostages. they'd be happy to see them dead or ill treated, whatever. and they don't care about their own civilian population either. i think we could see this ceasefire potentially extended beyond the initial four day period with hamas probably drip feeding further hostages out in exchange for convicted terrorists . and my for convicted terrorists. and my concern is that that that over that period of time, international pressure builds on israel, even if the maximum number of hostages is released . number of hostages is released. and of course, we don't know how many of those hostages are still

alive , it could be that, you alive, it could be that, you know, up to 100 or more even have been killed already by hamas . but, you know, my fear is hamas. but, you know, my fear is that this will extend the ceasefire indefinitely and leave hamas intact, albeit in the southern part of gaza. but nevertheless intact and in a position where they can regroup and carry out similar atrocities to the 7th of october yet again. yeah >> thank you very much. that's colonel richard kemp, former british infantry commander there, joining us today. thank you very much for explaining what is going on. and why. maybe

those shoots of hope aren't quite as hopeful as we all think . you are watching and listening to gb news sevilla with me. dawn neesom . lots more coming up on neesom. lots more coming up on today's show , though. but first, today's show, though. but first, let's have a look at what the weather's doing

as christmas is beginning to build as the second instalment of glasgow, winterfest opens on george square today. >> all of that

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in the newsroom is has received a list of 14 hostage who'll be released from captivity later today. released from captivity later today . israel's prison service today. israel's prison service is preparing to release 42 palestine prisoners in the second phase of the hostage deal . yoni katz. asher has been reunited with his wife, doron katz. asher and their two daughters. raz and aviv , after daughters. raz and aviv, after being taken into captivity for the past seven weeks, 24 hostages were freed yesterday . hostages were freed yesterday. several women and children were taken to schneider's children's medical centre in israel by helicopter . authorities say helicopter. authorities say they're responding well to medical treatment . matt, police medical treatment. matt, police have arrested protesters at a

pro—palestinian march in london on suspicion of inciting racial hatred after they were found allegedly carrying a placard with upsetting symbols . with upsetting symbols. thousands of protesters are gathering in london calling for a permanent ceasefire in gaza. the force are handing out leaflets warning against using words or images likely to land you in jail around 1500 officers will be deployed for the protest, which comes amid a temporary truce in the israel—hamas conflict . london's israel—hamas conflict. london's traditional christmas tree has been chosen and it's standing an impressive 62ft tall. norway's customary christmas gift has been felled ahead of its trip to

the capital as it grew in nordmarka , the forest just north nordmarka, the forest just north of oslo , and will be loaded onto of oslo, and will be loaded onto a ship bound for british shores. the tree will arrive in central london this week with festive lights switching on. on december, the seventh, the norwegian spruce is sent each year as a token of thanks for britain's support during the second world war. and you can get more on all those stories by visiting our website at gbnews.com now it's back to dawn

i >> -- >> thank 5mm >> thank you, sophia. oh this is what lou is just taking a deck as soon as halloween's going and that's it, his halloween's over and his lou .

halloween's over and his lou. >> so in terms of christmas , >> so in terms of christmas, what have you guys got planned today apart from the winterfest ? today apart from the winterfest? are you going to visit the one in george square whatsoever? i will take a walk down. >> why not? yeah. yeah an ice skater? no, coney. so just fall all over the place . all over the place. >> back to the churros and the mulled wine stick to the pints. oh, you turn the return of lou . oh, you turn the return of lou. fantastic. well, as you can imagine, it's a little bit chaotic here, but let's just put that down to the good cheer. it was minus one all the way from last night through to today. and now we're finally getting the

kind of one degrees and it's just over freezing. so a good time for everybody to get out and enjoy the absolute best that scotland has to offer. and you heard it here officially, the british people has spoken that it's early enough to start celebrating . oh, we can't wait. celebrating. oh, we can't wait. >> let put all the grinches and naysayers

>> you should maybe think about doing a 2024 calendar michelle dewberry and i'm keeping you company right through until 7:00 this evening. gb news is the people's . channel people's. channel >> welcome back to gb news saturday with me. dawn neesom on your tv online and on digital radio. now on monday, mps will debate two petitions relating to dangerous dogs. there are currently five dog breeds banned in the uk after they each earned a reputation for being dangerous or aggressive. however many people oppose these specific bans and instead say the onus should be placed on the dog's owners . our north—west of owners. our north—west of england. reporter sophie reaper has more on this story. >> a brave he heard screaming . >> a brave he heard screaming. he heard somebody needed help. and in this day and age is it's hard to find people like that back in 2017. >> david, his brother john died

>> david, his brotherjohn died as a result of a dog attack when as a result of a dog attack when a pit bull terrier turned on its owner . john intervened to try owner. john intervened to try and save her life. he was also mauled and later died of his injuries. the dog was destroyed, but david has now chosen to speak out. he feels the law needs to be more strict on owners. >> they are like a furry sort of firearm, aren't they? they can just go off at any stage. and i think it's important now that basically they need basically is that they need to be with just as much as be dealt with just as much as the dogs because. okay. i mean, i mean, yeah, i mean, the dog will put down, but then in will be put down, but then in theory, just theory, the owner will just get another dog and i mean, life just on. so i just just carries on. so i just believe we need to take a stance just carries on. so i just be|this we need to take a stance just carries on. so i just be|this and need to take a stance just carries on. so i just be|this and basicallyike a stance just carries on. so i just be|this and basically make ;tance just carries on. so i just be|this and basically make sure; on this and basically make sure that the owners and the breeders are brought to justice. >> the owner of the dog was never although never prosecuted, although after his family were his death, john's family were able get some compensation in. >> compensation is made up of many elements, injuries, obviously , and the injuries in obviously, and the injuries in this case were significant. both

physical and the psychological knock on for john because physical and the psychological knock on forjohn because it knock on for john because it caused depression, anxiety, fear of going outside. >> there are now five breeds of dog banned in the uk , including dog banned in the uk, including the pit bull terrier , the most the pit bull terrier, the most recent addition to the list is the xl bully . after a recent the xl bully. after a recent spate of attacks saw the government take action, we will then ban the breed under the dangerous dogs act and new laws will be in place by the end of the year. >> these dogs are dangerous. i want to reassure the public that we will take all necessary steps to keep people safe . to keep people safe. >> however, many would argue that a blanket ban on a breed isn't the solution. they just don't know the breed . don't know the breed. >> we had it a few years back with staffies. everyone was scared of staffies. unless they've met one. it just moves on to different breeds of dogs. all the time. we've had it for years with rottweilers, dobermans, pit bulls, staffies and now it's the turn of the xl bully many of the dogs here at

bleak hall animal sanctuary were brought in after they were mistreated by their owners. >> but what kind of long term impact does this abuse have on the behaviour of a dog? >> we do sometimes get difficult dogs coming in to the sanctuary and they just take a little bit more training, a little bit more behaviour work. sometimes they're under socialised and just aren't used to strangers. so we do work, but that isn't on a specific breed that can be any type of dog. if you've got a 60 kilogram dog with a young young lad walking around with who lad walking around with it who can't it, is an can't control it, it is an accident waiting to happen. and i appreciate something accident waiting to happen. and i doing.:iate something accident waiting to happen. and i doing. but something accident waiting to happen. and i doing. but puttinging needs doing. but putting a blanket ban on is not the answer. >> research from the dog control coalition suggests that breed specific legislation , such as specific legislation, such as the ban on xl bullies is ineffective and for david, he believes that if there were harsher sentences for dog owners, his brother would perhaps still be alive . of perhaps still be alive. of sophie reaper gb news is that

was sophie reaper with that paul >> thank you, sophie. now the fa has announced it will stop illuminating wembley stadium's iconic arch in support of humanitarian social causes. this comes after the fa's chief executive mark bullingham admitted he recorded the hurt the jewish community caused by the jewish community caused by the decision to leave the arch unlit during the england men's friendly against australia . in friendly against australia. in the week after the hamas terror attack on israel. joining me now, there's more to this story than meets the eye. by the way, which is glad i've got a sports journalist and broadcaster aidan magee joining me to delve down into this now on the surface, you think, oh, it's a fairly old story, isn't it? but there is more to it than meets the eye, isn't there? >> yeah, exactly. isn't there? >> ymean, actly. isn't there? >> ymean, look, all well >> i mean, look, it's all well and good using a part of your stadium highlight certain stadium to highlight certain humanitarian but that humanitarian causes. but that works only up to a point. dawn, when you find a cause that some people think you should do, but you it yourself

you don't like it yourself and it fit more it doesn't fit in, more importantly, with what your sponsors to do, then sponsors want you to do, then that's where snag. and that's where you hit a snag. and i to the fa years ago and i said to the fa years ago and the i had there, i said the friends i had there, i said to friends people i knew in to friends or people i knew in my previous employment who had close links to the fa. if you go down the route of politics, if you allow business to lead you down that route, you will go up a ruinous path. and that's exactly what's happened. so the gist or the crux of it, dawn, is, is to do with sponsorship, is, is to do with sponsorship, is to with things like esg is is to do with things like esg is to stonewall. it's to do to do with stonewall. it's to do with the that lurks with the money that that lurks behind 32 commercial behind the fa 32 commercial partners they it's partners they have. it's all listed website, among partners they have. it's all listed some website, among partners they have. it's all listed some veryzbsite, among partners they have. it's all listed some very politically>ng partners they have. it's all listed soncompaniesticallying partners they have. it's all listed soncompanies budweiser, motivated companies budweiser, disney, barclays , etcetera. and disney, barclays, etcetera. and so that's what's behind this. and what annoys football fans, people who love the game like yourself and myself . we don't yourself and myself. we don't like the game being hijacked for any reason. and these are not people who want to enhance the game. they don't want promote game. they don't want to promote the don't want to see the game. they don't want to see any good come of the game. all they're all they're interested

in the numbers, in really is the numbers, the reach, engage that football reach, the engage that football has one division in one sport. i'm talking here about the premier as know well premier league as you know well has well, the portfolio has a reach. well, the portfolio value of rights is worth £9 billion worldwide. it's an extraordinary amount of money, and that's because it's international and that's where these political causes want to go. want to hijack the go. they want to hijack the numbers. they're not really interested in the game. and that's why football fans will always want see less always say they want to see less politics game. yes, politics in the game. and yes, we that certain areas of we know that in certain areas of football, certain regions of the world, politics and sport are inextricably linked. that's not a thinks a good thing. who thinks sectarianism? sectarianism, for example, in example, is a good thing in football? it's terrible football? it's a terrible thing. and need move away and so you need to move away from the last thing you want from it. the last thing you want to do is encourage it. unfortunately, there's no one with with the with smart enough with the political me to understand where this lead. they this was going to lead. they thought to be thought it was all going to be a cuddly, kind of exercise once every of years or more, every couple of years or more, more frequently as as has happened last happened in the last 2 or 3 years. but eventually it came, it them unstuck and that's it got them unstuck and that's why they've had to make that decision this yeah. of decision this week. yeah. so of

course, know, to course, i mean, you know, to play course, i mean, you know, to play advocate for them, play devil's advocate for them, they thought were to they thought they were trying to do thing. do the right thing. >> but obviously it has led down this path. so do you think the fact that the wembley arch was not the colours of the not lit up in the colours of the israel flag was more to do with them being worried about upsetting as it were? >> t i can't think of any >> yeah, i can't think of any other reason why you would do it. mean, i'm not saying it. i mean, i'm not saying anyone at for everyone at the fa has in certain has only sees value in certain humanitarian as opposed has only sees value in certain huovertarian as opposed has only sees value in certain huover and n as opposed has only sees value in certain huover and above as opposed has only sees value in certain huover and above others pposed has only sees value in certain huover and above others because to over and above others because they all i'm sure, have have a conscience. in fact, know they conscience. in fact, i know they do. plenty of people who do. i know plenty of people who work there. yes, i don't work there. but yes, i don't think they're concerned about social media they social media when they get a backlash media. that's backlash on social media. that's when the sponsors get nervous. backlash on social media. that's wheithat sponsors get nervous. backlash on social media. that's wheithat willnsors get nervous. backlash on social media. that's wheithat will have get nervous. backlash on social media. that's wheithat will have influenced s. and that will have influenced their no their decision. there's no question dawn question about that. dawn >> course, is a lot >> and of course, there is a lot of eastern money in in of middle eastern money in in our football and there is well, there's a lot jewish money as there's a lot of jewish money as well. >> it always has been. west ham are by by jewish. yes. are owned by by jewish. yes. jewish owners palace jewish owners crystal palace swansea championship swansea city in the championship arsenal there for chelsea are it's been there for chelsea are owned by jewish man for 20 owned by a jewish man for 20 years so there's lots of jewish

influence as well. so there's a balancing act, know what? balancing act, you know what? i think actually the right think this is actually the right decision. it away. i mean, decision. take it away. i mean, don't wrong, they'll don't get me wrong, they'll still the fa will still still have the fa will still find ways of getting their political messages out there to satisfy certain sponsors and any other entities that put money into the organisation. let's face the fa makes makes face it, the fa makes makes money it money more more years than it doesn't. to doesn't. and there's a bill to play doesn't. and there's a bill to play still because play for wembley still because they built it in two thousand and seven. they still haven't quite paid it off even though it cost about 6 or £700 million. and so they'll find ways there'll be there'll be more minute's silence, there'll be more livery attached to players shirts. they'll, they'll prepare some statements for players to read out and they'll do us a favour, keep the sponsors happy and read that. we saw jordan henderson get involved in that. but as soon as as soon as it came to throwing the lgbt community under the bus for the sake million pound sake of a multi million pound contract in saudi, did. he contract in saudi, he did. he went and did exactly that. so that's where i mean, a friend of mine is a journalist. he came

out as gay in about 2015. i think it was. but he put a message on twitter last summer when jordan henderson did that and he said, in reality, i'm not that surprised. we all know that when players say things about the lgbt community and other humanitarian causes or political causes, we're doing it because they're told to do it. and so everyone's alive to it. and let's be honest. oh, yes, politics. >> but on the sports side, very, very quickly, we are running out of time for football this afternoon. very exciting happening, man city, look at man city one up at half time against eight against liverpool. >> that game kicks off at 1230. manchester city can go four points clear with that. and just last night i was at the boxing at the york hall as well. the portsmouth fighter. >> you look like you've had a late night, but no.

>> yeah. mark chamberlain, not the not the footballer who played for portsmouth in the late 80s, father of alex oxlade—chamberlain. this is a different fella. he's a lightweight boxer, european title holder. and he stopped his opponent, his latvian opponent in the 10th round. and i'll tell you what, he had a brilliant contingent of pompey fans in the in audience cheering him on. in the audience cheering him on. and he's a big hope for the future. >> brilliant. thank you very much. that's our aidan magee bnng up much. that's our aidan magee bring up date on the bring them up to date on the sport sadly the politics sport and sadly the politics that goes with it. now, should we talk about something? happy christmas is a time of year when you see your friends and family and to grit your and sometimes have to grit your teeth and bear some teeth and bear with some relatives. don't necessarily relatives. you don't necessarily get you think get on with, but if you think you've got it bad, try being a member they you've got it bad, try being a me|so er they you've got it bad, try being a me|so much they you've got it bad, try being a me|so much the they you've got it bad, try being a me|so much the as they you've got it bad, try being a me|so much the as only are so much the same as us, only with are so much the same as us, only witthere are that it. there are reports that king charles would regret inviting the sussex charles would regret inviting th

then? so you think if they were invited, no , invited, they'd go, oh, no, don't actually, for start off, they're invited they're not going to be invited because they're not going to be invited becau arrangements who's made arrangements for who's going to be turning up at sandringham going to be turning up at sandringhanextended family going to be turning up at sandrito hanextended family going to be turning up at sandrito harthere?ied family going to be there? >> camilla's two children and grand are to grand children are going to be there for the first time, along with to there for the first time, along wita to there for the first time, along wita late to there for the first time, along wita late for to there for the first time, along wita late for camilla to there for the first time, along wita late for camilla normally) be a late for camilla normally and big now they're and it's so big now that they're going from going to have to move from the usual room to the ballroom. but there's end there's still no room at the end for the montecito muppets. so what is incredible about this is that they let it be known that they invitation. that they let it be known that they everything invitation. that they let it be known that they everything irgone on. given everything that's gone on just lately. the book, the oprah winfrey, they slagging off of continuous off and continuous slagging off and prince charles is quite rightly said i think i'm going to regret doing it because he can't trust his son. more importantly , he his son. more importantly, he can't trust his daughter in law. and now we're here. today's news that this new book by omid scobie end game, which is going to be published on tuesday and has been serialised in paris—match and fortunately, most reporters in this country have got translators and it's been filling the newspapers because in it we've got a certain revelations, one being that meghan says she's never going to set foot in england again. it's also he's also

saying that the real reason she didn't turn up to the coronation is she didn't want to get back into the royal soap opera as she as she said. remember, she said, i'm only staying behind because of the kids and everything else. absolute tosh. now now, omid scobie, who wrote finding freedom and denied that there was any help from meghan and harry on that book, then forced to admit meghan had helped in some way, is now saying exactly the same thing as are harry and meghan . but where did omid meghan. but where did omid scobie get all this great information? he certainly didn't get it from the palace. now an old cynic would say, like me , old cynic would say, like me, you would say yes. they've co—operated with it either directly or indirectly. there's a lot of there's a lot of things in this new book, including remember meghan said on oprah winfrey that there was a racist in the royal family who questioned the colour of harry's skin before he was born. she's now saying there's now two members who were racist . and members who were racist. and it's a very clever they said , a it's a very clever they said, a member of the royal household

that implies not a direct member of the family, but someone very close to the family who knows. and she also wrote a letter to the king, then prince charles, naming the two people. so it's, you know , that's not going to be union. >> it's not going to be a happy christmas. first of all, just have to apologise for anyone listening for some fruity language there. but obviously it's subject very many people it's a subject very many people passionate obviously, passionate about. and obviously, harry aren't here. harry and meghan aren't here. harry and meghan aren't here. harry and meghan aren't here to defend themselves, but the book does because they does fascinating because they denied anything to do denied having anything to do with his first with omid scobie. his first book, they ? yes, but this book, didn't they? yes, but this does sound like it's coming very much from the horse's mouth. again it does sound like it. >> and we all know what authors do. you know, if you are if you are giving interviews to an author, an author gathers information. it may not necessarily go into that first volume of book. he may keep he or she may keep something back

and then go on to a second book. and i think that's what's happened here. yeah. >> charlie, thank you so much for joining us this afternoon. really and really appreciate that. and fruity bad boy , you fruity language, bad boy, you are watching and listening to gb news with me. dawn news saturday with me. dawn neesom . lots coming up on neesom. lots more coming up on today's but first, let's today's show. but first, let's have a look at weather, have a look at the weather, shall we, greg? hello there. >> i'm greg dewhurst and welcome to gb news weather to your latest gb news weather forecast . it to your latest gb news weather forecast. it staying to your latest gb news weather forecast . it staying on the forecast. it is staying on the cold as we move through the cold side as we move through the rest of weekend. frost rest of the weekend. frost returning tonight, but we will have moving in from have rain moving in from the atlantic could see that atlantic and we could see that on the bigger picture, high pressure away as we head pressure moves away as we head through into second half of through into the second half of the weekend. replaced by low pressure outbreaks of pressure bringing outbreaks of rain chilly this evening rain turning chilly this evening for many areas as skies, clear temperatures will tumble away. however into the early hours. thicker cloud will move in to the far west. outbreaks of rain moving into parts of northern ireland. so mist and fog patches ahead of the rain and temperatures towns temperatures well, towns and cities to freezing below cities close to freezing below freezing in the countryside, minus 4 or —5 celsius is

possible . well, but it means possible. well, but it means a sunny start with those fog patches still around. first thing further north and east, thicker cloud in the west, outbreaks of rain moving and outbreaks of rain moving in and this slowly its way this slowly pushing its way eastwards the day . best eastwards through the day. best of the sunshine holding on across parts of scotland. thicker cloud developing elsewhere the winds just elsewhere and the winds just starting to increase across the far southwest as milder approaches here, 11 or 12 celsius. but elsewhere, cold day once 4 or 5 degrees at once more, 4 or 5 degrees at best into monday. that low pressure still around, giving outbreaks of showery rain across england and wales in particular, some heavy bursts, possible brighter skies for northern ireland and scotland, but quite windy across some eastern coast and it stays unsettled as we move through this week with further outbreaks of rain and temperatures on the cold side and ooh, so you may as well stay snuggled up in front of your telly then, right. >> thank you very much, greg. lots more coming up on today's show. pro palestinian demonstrators are taking to the streets seventh in streets for the seventh week in a calling a ceasefire in

a row calling for a ceasefire in the israel—hamas conflict. our reporter katherine forster will be there live for us this afternoon. all of that and much more to come. i'm dawn neesom and watching and you're watching and listening to gb news, britain's news channel don't go too far

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keeping you company on tv online and on digital radio. keep you up to date on the stories that really matter to you. coming up this hour, pro—palestinian demonstrators are taking to the streets for the seventh week in a row calling for a ceasefire in the israel—hamas conflict. our reporter katherine forster will be there live for us then with his tantalising tax cuts, chancellor jeremy his tantalising tax cuts, chancellorjeremy hunt has chancellor jeremy hunt has fuelled the rumours that the tories are gearing up for a spnng tories are gearing up for a spring election. in an election had been wide , widely expected had been wide, widely expected next autumn. but there are claims the conservatives are being put on a war footing from the new year. could we see an election sooner than we expected 7 election sooner than we expected ? and as hamas released 24 hostages and another 15 set to be released today , lay a glimmer be released today, lay a glimmer of hope in the violence of the middle east. but can the ceasefire hold and can those still trapped inside gaza make it home safely? and do get in touch? send me your thoughts on

gbviews@gbnews.com or message me very simply on our socials. we're at gb news. but first, let's catch up with the news headunes let's catch up with the news headlines with sophia . thank headlines with sophia. thank you, dawn. >> it's 2:02. i'm sophia wenzler in the newsroom . israel has in the newsroom. israel has received a list of 14 hostages who'd be released from captive 80 later today is rael's prison service is preparing to release 42 palestinian prisoners in the second phase of the hostage deal second phase of the hostage deal. jani catsash has been reunited with his wife , doreen reunited with his wife, doreen katz. sasha and their two daughters. raz and aviv, after being taken into captivity for the past seven weeks, 24 hostages were freed yesterday

and are beginning to be reunited with their families. several women and children have been cared for at the schneider children's medical centre in israel. the director of paediatric gilat livni, hopes to see all hostages returned . see all hostages returned. >> a very exciting from the first moment we saw all the kids and the parents, the hugs and the crying and it was very, very exciting for all of us. they are in good condition and they are surrounded by our multidisciplinary teams, social workers , psychologists, nurses workers, psychologists, nurses and doctors. they are surrounded by the family, friends . and

by the family, friends. and palestinians who fled the conflict between israel and hamas have started to return home as fighting pauses in the enclave. >> the temporary ceasefire took effect on friday and is expected to continue until monday . to continue until monday. meanwhile, trucks loaded with humanitarian aid supplies are passing through the rafah border crossing between gaza and egypt by convoy . egypt estimates that by convoy. egypt estimates that 200 trucks will enter gaza daily dunng 200 trucks will enter gaza daily during the four day truce met. police have arrested a protester at a pro—palestinian march in london on suspicion of inciting racial hatred after they were found allegedly carrying a placard with upsetting symbols . placard with upsetting symbols. thousands of protesters are gathering in london calling for

a permanent ceasefire in gaza. the force are handing out leaflets warning against using words or images likely to land you in jail. around 1500 officers will be deployed for the protests, which come amid the protests, which come amid the temporary truce in the israel—hamas founder israel—hamas conflict. founder and of friends al—aqsa, and chair of friends of al—aqsa, ismail news what ismail patel, told gb news what protesters today i >> -- >> we're here today to highlight might that a pause in the ceasefire does not mean freedom for the palestinian people. we need to make sure that there is a total ceasefire and end to siege and an end to occupation and our achievement really is to make sure that our government understands this and they enforce it upon the israelis to end the bombardment and the genocide that is taking place in gaza. >> russia has hit kyiv with the biggest drone attack of the conflict so far. >> that's according to ukraine's air force . at least five people air force. at least five people were injured when shahed drones descended on the capital

overnight. explosions could be heard as the aircrafts were intercepted with buildings damaged multiple damaged across multiple districts. ukrainian president vladimir zelenskyy described the strikes an act of wilful strikes as an act of wilful terror . the first frost has terror. the first frost has bitten the uk as temperatures fell well below freezing across large parts of the country overnight at the met office says the cold spell could also see snowfall next week. tonight is expected to be the coldest night of the season across the country with temperatures and with subzero temperatures and they possibly reach minus they could possibly reach minus seven celsius across northwestern england and the northwestern england and in the south minus four in the south and a minus four in the rural areas of wales by tomorrow morning . london's traditional morning. london's traditional christmas tree has been chosen standing at an impressive 62ft tall, norway's customary christmas gift has been felled ahead of its trip to the caphal ahead of its trip to the capital. it grew in nordmarka, the forest just north of oslo, and will be loaded onto a ship bound for british shores. the tree will arrive in central london this week with the festive lights switching on december the seventh. the norwegian spruce is sent each year as a token of thanks for

britain's support during the second . world war. and you can second. world war. and you can get more on all those stories by visiting our website at gbviews@gbnews.com . thank you gbviews@gbnews.com. thank you very much. >> sophia. right now, let's get stuck into today's topic, shall we? pro—palestinian demonstrators have taken to the streets in streets for the seventh week in a ceasefire in a row calling for a ceasefire in the israel—hamas over a row calling for a ceasefire in the course-hamas over a row calling for a ceasefire in the course ofimas over the course of these demonstrations, police are set to provide to hand out leaflets to provide absolute over what could absolute clarity over what could be deemed as anti—semitic. this comes as police ramp up security over fears of escalating violence . joining over fears of escalating violence .joining me over fears of escalating violence . joining me now to talk violence. joining me now to talk about what is going on in london is gb news political correspondent katherine forster. catherine thank you so much for joining catherine joining us once again. catherine can you just bring us up to date on where you are and what's happening we're currently >> yes. so we're currently just down from trafalgar down not far from trafalgar square. the march started up park lane about probably three quarters of a mile away from here, progressed down to hyde park corner along piccadilly, ultimately is going to end up on whitehall. of i've geography of london, i've covered several of these pro—palestinian covered several of these pro—pall seven n they've the last seven weeks. they've been happening weekly. of course , largely during the day. they are peaceful and large numbers of people i've seen babies in buggies. ladies buggies. i've seen ladies in wheelchairs. people with wheelchairs. lots of people with dogs cockapoo seem be very dogs cockapoo seem to be very

popular and largely peaceful. but i have to say that in the last hour, you didn't come to us because we were getting a lot of abuse basically an english guy with a loudhailer came over, was shouting loads of noise, wanted to know who we were from, where are we from? israel tv and tried to sort of fobbed him off. anyway, in the end, we said we were gb news and he just went completely off the deep end . i'm completely off the deep end. i'm not going to tell you what he said, but fascist scum and lots of other really horrible comments that of course attracted a lot of attention. a whole load of people then gathered around us me, the cameraman and our back watcher. we have him on all these protests to make sure that we're kept safe. i have to say i'm very glad indeed that we had him. he's big. he's physically, you know, quite intimidating. but basically we were circled by a load of people shouting abuse at us. it was very threatening.

i and the cameraman, who's been a cameraman for 30 years, felt genuinely intimidated. and in the end, we got a policeman oven the end, we got a policeman over. i actually rang the police. he's taken an incident number. we're going to file a report . but number. we're going to file a report. but yeah, an isolated incident. but of course, we have a free press in this country. the press do a very important job. the press are the way that everybody gets to know what's happening in the world. if it weren't for the press, we wouldn't know what was happening in israel. we wouldn't know what was happening in gaza. so to intimidate just trying intimidate people, just trying to do job, to tell you at to do their job, to tell you at home gb news viewers what's going on, it's really not okay. >> catherine, i mean, it is quite shocking to hear on the streets of london on a on a sunny saturday afternoon. i mean, you must be quite shaken by that. i mean, it's just not something you expect checked . something you expect checked. >> yeah, i am to be honest, my legs were shaking. my legs were

actually shaking for a while . actually shaking for a while. and the thing is that the 1500 police here today i've been talking to a lot of them. they've been giving out these leaflets to protesters to try to help them not get arrested . and help them not get arrested. and basically but of course, the numbers of protesters here are absolutely huge . there's absolutely huge. there's helicopters overhead. there's a lot of people with loudhailers. there's a broken glass just here. and you know, when something happens and you are cornered , we couldn't see any cornered, we couldn't see any police for a good few minutes. so yeah, it's largely peaceful. most people here just want peace, just want the violence to stop. but, of course , oh, this stop. but, of course, oh, this guy is actually here. if you just want to pan around this is the guy that gave us all the abuse, if you'd just like to pan round. so we can see him, he's here. he'd better not come over again. i was hoping to avoid

him. we moved to a different spot. but anyway, it was him. and about 7 or 8 of his mates. so i think probably time to hand back to you in the studio. tom >> catherine, i'm glad you're safe . obviously, that's the most safe. obviously, that's the most important thing. and it does seem to be getting some nice friendly waves behind you as well. it does seem to be the majority of people on the march are very peaceful and are indeed very peaceful and hopefully was a off hopefully that was a one off incident. but, know, incident. but, you know, thankfully, well and thankfully, you are well and safe. katherine forster safe. that is katherine forster there us of a frankly there telling us of a frankly quite worrying incident while she's covering the palestinian march for peace now. national insurance and business taxes are coming down while benefits and the state pension will be increased. just some of the measures announced by the chancellor this week . jeremy chancellor this week. jeremy hunt an optimist tone, hunt stuck an optimist tone, saying britain's economy had defied saying britain's economy had defied the doom and gloom of some predictions. the biggest change comes in january when the national insurance will be cut from 12 10, saving those on from 12 to 10, saving those on average earnings of £450 per

yeah average earnings of £450 per year. the triple lock will be kept. that's a pension triple lock, taking the state pension up to 8.5% to more than £220 a week. and there will be help for low income households struggling to afford rent . but the major to afford rent. but the major announcement was on national insurance now. joining me now to drill down into all the facts and figures as lots of them, is there is chief economic adviser at the centre for economic and business research, vicky price. vicky, thank you much for vicky, thank you so much for coming in this afternoon. appreciate it. now budget is appreciate it. now the budget is it's well, the autumn statement . it's well, the autumn statement. it it seemed to be good news but l, it it seemed to be good news but i, i don't i'm not an economist. you are obviously. but the fiscal drag it seems to me to be dragging people into a higher tax bracket and saying, oh, look, you know, we're giving you this on one hand, but we're giving it because we're taking it away on that hand. have i understand that right? it away on that hand. have i unchu and that right? it away on that hand. have i unchu understand ht? it away on that hand. have i unchu understand it? it away on that hand. have i unchu understand it perfectly well. >> excellent. good >> excellent. good >> and what is more is the fiscal over compensating fiscal drag is over compensating for other words, the

for it. in other words, the improvement in people's take home as a result of the home pay as a result of the reduction in the national insurance contribution rate by 2% is more than offset by the fact that they will be paying more tax on average because of this fiscal drag and this fiscal drag works in a certain way, which is basically that if you freeze your personal allowance and you have quite a lot of inflation and wages go up, even if they haven't until now, gone up in line inflation, then up in line with inflation, then you're moved into paying the tax for the first time. so there are over 2 million people who are paying over 2 million people who are paying tax for the first time. they didn't. >> and is low income, low >> and this is low income, low income, yes. >> just move them up and they start paying then, start paying tax. and then, of course, almost 2 course, there are almost 2 million people are also million people who are also beginning the higher beginning now to pay the higher rate income tax. so because rate of income tax. so because they're earning over the next just over £50,000, which brings them into the higher rate without in fact having any improvement in their living standards. affects real standards. so that affects real disposable income very significantly. you add to that, of course, the interest rate

increases that we have and increases that we have seen and the to pay so the fact they have to pay so much their mortgages, much more on their mortgages, even happens over a even though it happens over a penod even though it happens over a period time, once they have period of time, once they have to mortgages that to renew the mortgages and that leaves very and leaves them with very little and we mentioned pensioners there and i mean, and the triple lock, i mean, it's kept in place. it's being kept in place. >> farage news for >> farage good news for pensioners, etcetera, etcetera. but pensioner the but many pensioner by the freezing of those tax thresholds have been dragged into paying higher tax as well. >> it's absolutely true. and that is, is an issue which has been worrying a number of people and this is why there is a general call also from the labour party, which is quite interesting to unfreeze those those pensions. sorry to unfreeze those personal allowances so that people can get some benefit out of what is happening with their wages and also what's happening with any other cuts that the government is putting through. but of course, there could be more cuts coming in the next budget , which coming in the next budget, which will be in march. i mean, assuming, of course, we have a normal period ahead. it could happenin

normal period ahead. it could happen in february if they decide to have an early election, which is being rumoured right now anyway, perhaps we'll have it in may, but there will be more to sweeten , if you the path sweeten, if you like, the path ahead for most people and we may get then some lifting of that personal allowance barrier that exists at present. but the interesting thing is quite a lot of the forecasts of the office for budget responsibility, which allows for some of that paying something back , you know, something back, you know, including the national insurance cut and the other help which is being given to business is entirely reliant on that fiscal drag continuing. so if another government comes in and lifts it, then what you may find is that there isn't very much room to do anything very much at all. and i they're probably and i think they're probably banking leaving the banking on this, leaving the labour party a huge debt labour party with a huge debt problem, fiscal problem, which they can't really do anything about, of the about, sort of like the equivalent the government equivalent to the government before a little note before that left a little note saying there's no money left. >> we've all kind of thing.

>> yes, i think something like that. and the real problem is, of only way of course, that the only way that have been able to give that they have been able to give something back, we want to something back, if we want to call them call it that, which made them popular temporarily with popular temporarily anyway with the electorate a little bit the electorate or a little bit more than they were more popular than they were before. of course, before. i mean, that of course, has meant a huge cut in real terms for public services, particularly the ones which are not the national health service, for example, which is bound to get a little bit more. but if you look at capital spending and normal day to day public spending, it's falling over the next few years. so that is a serious concern if that is the case. and you need to do something about improving public services, which we know 80% of the population think they've gone backwards. yes. then you need some extra cash . now there need some extra cash. now there isn't going to be any. >> you surprised what >> so were you surprised what you in this statement or you heard in this statement or was it kind of what you were expecting? >> because there was a lots of speculation in the days and speculation in in the days and indeed running up the indeed weeks running up to the actual were you actual autumn statement were you surprised or was it, you know, kind of along the lines of what

you they would say? it you thought they would say? it was surprised from was a little bit surprised from where was a few weeks earlier. where i was a few weeks earlier. >> but of course, we had so much tried by the chancellor, so we had inheritance tax seem to have gone down badly . so cutting gone down badly. so cutting inheritance tax was suggested . inheritance tax was suggested. so then they tried a number of other things and they ended up with which is actually with something which is actually quite £10 billion a year. quite costly £10 billion a year. and the help to businesses, which i think is good for the for the long term. but i was surprised about the cut in in national insurance contributions because had because i didn't think they had very much room that. and very much room for that. and indeed, billion indeed, you know, 10 billion could be spent on the national health service on the other health service on all the other pubuc health service on all the other public will it public services. and will it really make a huge difference to people, will. but people, the unfreezing will. but just perhaps going to just that isn't perhaps going to be, enormous . but i be, you know, enormous. but i thought it was good and i did expect that was the help to businesses with the investment help that on capital allowances thatis help that on capital allowances that is being given which is i think very good news and also doing something on business rates, particularly for the smaller firms. >> so i mean , i am smaller firms.

>>so|mean,|am|am smaller firms. >> so i mean , i am i am the >> so i mean, i am i am the world's cynic when world's worst cynic when it comes this sort thing. and comes to this sort of thing. and it's often smoke and mirrors. i mean, can i expect to see any change in my bank balance any time soon? basically not much. >> thank you , vicky. >> thank you, vicky. >> thank you, vicky. >> you're really helping here, if that's the answer you want. >> and unfortunately, i mean, you expect it. unfortunately, thatis you expect it. unfortunately, that is indeed going to be the case. what is more, what we're seeing right now is that from january, we're going to be paying january, we're going to be paying our electricity paying more for our electricity at well because the caps at home as well because the caps going up . so anything that we going up. so anything that we saw as a reduction in october is more or less going to be offset by an increase again from january for the following three months. that's a real months. and that's a real problem people are going months. and that's a real pr

going to be apparently rather a cold winter , then those costs cold winter, then those costs are going to be going up quite significantly. and that will mean, of course, even less available for other things. do you i mean, you think i mean, the government, a fine government, it's a very fine line to very tricky path to line to two very tricky path to tread, isn't it? >> because obviously we are in the run up to a general election, so they are both parties all parties going parties or all parties are going to say, you know, as much as they can to get people to vote for them. so, i mean, the tax cuts and sort of like, you know, the meant to be the tories are not meant to be a party of tax. et cetera. et party of high tax. et cetera. et cetera. but i when we have cetera. but i mean, when we have social care and you've already mentioned the are already mentioned the nhs are already suffering they do need suffering ing and they do need more fine more investment, it's a fine line between taxes and line between cutting taxes and keeping heartland tories keeping the heartland tories happy, but also people like genuinely concerned about social services and in particular the nhs. obviously it's absolutely true. >> so again, in the analysis that has been done by almost everyone who has looked at the figures, the assumption of course those cuts that course is that those cuts that are mentioned terms in are mentioned in real terms in pubuc are mentioned in real terms in public are indeed going public services are indeed going to be affected because they will

happen they will be implemented over the next few years. the likelihood is that they won't, which really means that there is then even less room to do anything in terms of any other tax cuts, because if those services are going to require an awful lot of support and maybe therefore the borrowing is going to being higher than we to end up being higher than we had anticipated and what what impact do you think this will have on inflation? impact do you think this will hav because ation? impact do you think this will hav because atiorof the big >> because one of the big promises that rishi sunak made was to halve relation. do was to halve in relation. how do you think this autumn statement will help with the inflation figures within halving of inflation is already happened in fact, a month earlier than they had anticipated. >> good news. it's now >> so that's good news. it's now down to is that down to the government or just to down a combination of factors? >> at moment it's almost >> at the moment it's almost entirely to energy prices entirely due to energy prices having entirely due to energy prices havasi entirely due to energy prices havas i said, they're going up >> as i said, they're going up again. it might push again. so it might push inflation a bit inflation up a little bit at various stages. course various stages. but of course the very substantial increase in interest seen interest rates that we've seen is an and will be is having an impact and will be having an impact over a longer penod having an impact over a longer period of time. so this is why

the for by the the forecast for growth by the office budget responsible or office of budget responsible or the of england, which the bank of england, which produced in produced its own forecast in early very early november, are for very little growth over the next year at least, if not two years below 1. the latest obr forecast for 24 and 25, which really leaves you in in in quite , quite a you in in in quite, quite a problem looking ahead by 25 might get around 1. but but but on the inflation front , you're on the inflation front, you're quite right to raise it because looking at the longer term what it might mean for the bank of england when it sees that perhaps people through this national insurance contributions cut may have a little bit of money than they would have had otherwise. less, but a otherwise. still less, but a little more otherwise little bit more than otherwise might go out and spend it. and we've seen already consumer confidence improving a little bit last month. bit so in the last month. so that's they will go that's good news. they will go out and therefore out and spend it and therefore they worry more about they might worry more about inflation keep inflation and therefore keep interest rates high for longer, which course for which of course is bad for everybody longer term .

everybody in the longer term. >> oh, right. well, thank you very much for joining >> oh, right. well, thank you very much forjoining me. vicky pryce a very good pryce there at a very good analysis of what autumn analysis of what that autumn statement actually about. statement was actually about. and think the impression was and i think the impression was that good news, to be honest with smoke and with you, a bit. smoke and mirrors still . but we have got mirrors still. but we have got christmas around corner and mirrors still. but we have got chrcan as around corner and mirrors still. but we have got chrcan allaround corner and mirrors still. but we have got chrcan all atund corner and mirrors still. but we have got chrcan all at least corner and mirrors still. but we have got chrcan all at least try:orner and mirrors still. but we have got chrcan all at least try and r and mirrors still. but we have got chrcan all at least try and have we can all at least try and have a of a good christmas no a bit of a good christmas no matter how much we can afford. it's nice to spend time with family and friends. but the excitement glasgow in excitement for glasgow in particular is beginning to build as of as the second instalment of glasgow's winterfest opens on george today, families george square today, families have to an ice rink, a have access to an ice rink, a silent disco, a festival bar and an assortment of festive rides and attractions, including big and attractions, including a big wheel, helter skelter and a traditional now our traditional carousel. now our scotland reporter tony mcguire promised me faithfully at one point they would actually try out an ice skating rink. and, tony, i'm just seeing on tony, i'm just not seeing you on the skates at the moment. the ice skates at the moment. what's . on what's going. on >> yeah, indeed. well, unfortunate . it has to be said unfortunate. it has to be said that the george square ice rink isn't going to open until 4 pm. however, i think we can all

agree that my colleagues in the news desk wouldn't appreciate it if i couldn't turn up to work for the next three months because, well, i'm a bit of a klutz, especially on the ice. nevertheless i am here at winter fest . but nevertheless i am here at winter fest. but mid—afternoon i popped down in a square to see the other side of the festival. and indeed, as you say, it's very much full of the christmas spirit . nobody's much full of the christmas spirit. nobody's taking much full of the christmas spirit . nobody's taking too much spirit. nobody's taking too much heed of the minus one degrees that it's kind of held on for most of the day to day. it's back and fortunately, but still , back and fortunately, but still, the christmas cheer, the christmas warmth is bringing everybody in. now, as you mentioned, the second part of winter fest here in glasgow is going to be opening the ice rink , much beloved part of the christmas festivities back again this year . christmas festivities back again this year. and skaters will be able to enjoy that from later on, organise de—man have said that today that they are willing to take people to come in and just walk ins for the ice rink, but it gives you an idea that on

normal days they're expecting people to book in advance because it is so popular now on the website for winterfest , they the website for winterfest, they were hoping for around 600,000 people over the course of the festive period. but i can tell you today, if the crowds keep up the way they are today, i've chosen this spot just outside the entrance to give you an idea of just how busy it is. and behind me is a relatively smaller arena where we have of various food stalls, various crafts and the like as well as a few of the rides . and as you few of the rides. and as you mentioned, the helter skelter and much more kids rides up in george square. it's going to be a small fee to enter to take a ride on them with with the family. but in charge of the charity portion of this year's events is going to be the clutha trust. and they're hoping to raise at least £50,000 so that they can issue £100 utility vouchers for some of scotland's poorest families. so that this

christmas, if it stays this cold, then they're going to have a nice warm house to get them through the winter months . but through the winter months. but certainly here in senior square and also in george square, where we were a little earlier on, the cheeris we were a little earlier on, the cheer is here for. and as i was talking to people earlier today, it seems unanimous. it's not too early to celebrate christmas . it early to celebrate christmas. it is only 30 sleeps and we appear that the countdown has begun now for a lot of glaswegians , as are for a lot of glaswegians, as are you in the tony, thank you so much. >> really appreciate that. enjoy the rest of your day there. it does look fun, i must admit. the rest of your day there. it does look fun, i must admit . and does look fun, i must admit. and it's never too early, is it? i mean, it's been a hard year for so many of us, so it's coming into a nice festive period. so whatever we can do to get a little bit of fun in our lives, i think is probably not a bad thing, is it? right. you're watching and listening to gb news saturday me. dawn news saturday with me. dawn neesom. much more coming neesom. so much more coming up on today's first, on today's show. but first, let's take a look at what that weather shall we? weather with greg, shall we? >> there. i'm greg >> hello there. i'm greg dewhurst and welcome to your

latest news weather forecast. latest gb news weather forecast. that the cold side that is staying on the cold side as we move through rest as we move through the rest of the returning as we move through the rest of the but returning as we move through the rest of the but we returning as we move through the rest of the but we willreturning as we move through the rest of the but we will have|ing as we move through the rest of the but we will have rain tonight but we will have rain moving the atlantic and moving in from the atlantic and we could see that on the bigger picture. pressure moves picture. high pressure moves away through into the away as we head through into the second weekend. second half of the weekend. replaced by pressure replaced by low pressure bringing outbreaks rain bringing outbreaks of rain turning chilly. this evening for many as skies, clear many areas as skies, clear temperatures will tumble away, however, into the early hours. thicker cloud will move in to the far west. outbreaks of rain moving into parts of northern ireland. so mist and fog patches ahead of the rain and temperatures. well, towns and cities close freezing below cities close to freezing below freezing country side, freezing in the country side, minus minus five celsius minus four, minus five celsius is possible. but it means a sunny start with those fog patches still around. first thing further north and east, thicker cloud in the west, outbreaks of rain moving in and this slowly pushing its way eastwards through the day . best eastwards through the day. best of the sunshine holding on across scotland. across parts of scotland. thicker developing thicker cloud developing elsewhere and the winds just starting to increase across the far southwest as milder approaches here, 11 or 12

celsius. but elsewhere , cold day celsius. but elsewhere, cold day once 4 or 5 degrees at once more, 4 or 5 degrees at best into monday. that low pressure still around, giving outbreaks of showery rain across england and wales in particular. some heavy bursts, possible brighter skies for northern ireland and scotland. but quite windy across some eastern coast and it stays unsettled as we move through this week with further outbreaks of rain and temperatures on the side . temperatures on the cold side. >> thank you very much, greg. so stay cosy, watch your telly like lots more. coming up on today's show. for a start, israeli security officials have said 14 hostages will be released in exchange for 42 palestine prisoners today during a temporary truce between israel and hamas. is this a glimmer of hopein and hamas. is this a glimmer of hope in the escalating violence, though? please, god, all of that to come and much more. i'm dawn neesom and you're watching and listening to gb news, britain's news channel .

sunday mornings from 930 on. gb news as . it's sunday mornings from 930 on. gb news as. it's 330. >> i'm sophia wenzler in the gb newsroom . hamas is due to newsroom. hamas is due to release a group of hostages through the rafah crossing today. israel has received a list of 13 hostages who'll be released from captivity by egyptian authorities awaiting for their arrival at the rafah border crossing on the border with gaza . israel's prison with gaza. israel's prison service is preparing to release

39 palestinian prisoners in the second phase of the hostage deal . yoni katz asher has been reunited with his wife, doron katz. asher and their two daughters. raz and aviv , after daughters. raz and aviv, after being taken into captivity for the past seven weeks, 24 hostages were freed yesterday . hostages were freed yesterday. several women and children were taken to schneider children's medical centre in israel. authorities say they are responding well to medical treatment. the director of paediatrics at schneider children's medical centre, gilad livni , hopes to see all hostages livni, hopes to see all hostages returned . and met. police have returned. and met. police have arrested a protester at a pro—palestinian march in london on suspicion of inciting racial hatred after they were found allegedly carrying a placard with upsetting symbols. thousands of protests . leaders thousands of protests. leaders are calling for a permanent ceasefire in gaza as they march through the capital while the force is giving demonstrators leaflets warning against using words or images likely to land you in jail around 1500 officers are policing the protests , which

are policing the protests, which comes amid a temporary truce in the israel—hamas conflict . the the israel—hamas conflict. the first frost has bitten the uk as temperatures fell well below freezing across large parts of the country overnight at the met office says the cold spell could also see snow fall next week. tonight is expected to be the coldest night of the season across the country with subzero temperatures and they could possibly reach minus seven celsius across northwestern england and in the south and a minus four in rural areas of wales by tomorrow morning . and wales by tomorrow morning. and you can get more on all those stories by visiting our website at gbnews.com. and now it's back to dawn . to dawn. >> thank you very much , sophia. >> thank you very much, sophia. welcome back to gb news saturday with me. dawn neesom on your tv onune with me. dawn neesom on your tv online and on digital radio. israeli security officials have said 14 hostages will be

released in exchange for 42 palestinian prisoners today dunng palestinian prisoners today during a temporary truce between israel and hamas. this comes as the first 24 hostages were set free yesterday day, including many women and children in benjamin netanyahu's office have said they are reviewing a list of captives that could be freed over the next 24 hours. joining me now is the defence editor of the evening standard, robert fox . robert, thank you very much for joining me this afternoon. what do you make of what we have seen over the last 24, 24 hours with the release of the hostages and the prisoner exchange ? and the prisoner exchange? >> steady as she goes . right. >> steady as she goes. right. but it's quite difficult because it seems on both sides this it's not very easy rounding up or getting them in one place so they can move . it's not really they can move. it's not really clear where the hostages are being held inside gaza. it's pretty clear they're not all being held by by hamas. they may

being held by by hamas. they may be held by islamic jihad, another islamist group . but another islamist group. but there's also some reports that they may be held by just criminal gangs that have been operating through throughout out similarly that they've been moving palestinian. actually, it's very difficult to call them prisoners . they're just prisoners. they're just detainees . they're people that detainees. they're people that have been rounded up and there have been rounded up and there have been rounded up and there have been a lot rounded up, particularly on the west bank since oct tober the seventh since oct tober the seventh since since since the massacre. but it does seem to be working and there have been there's been the odd exchange of fire. there have been some rather strange reports that two palestinians this is the palestinian authority, that's hamas claiming that two two palestinians trying to get back to their homes were shot by israeli troops. but there's such a concentration of israeli troops , it's frankly not israeli troops, it's frankly not not surprising thing. and oddly,

underneath, it's still looking quite unstable. i was going to say, you know, we've seen joyful scenes on both sides. >> we have seen , you know, >> we have seen, you know, israeli families welcoming people. in one case, a lady who they thought had been killed , they thought had been killed, you know, welcoming their loved ones back home. and i think the youngest was a two year old. and there's a lady in her 80s and on there's a lady in her 80s and on the other side, we have seen a palestinian where there are prisoners or detainees going back to the west bank and their families greeting them. so there are joyful scenes on both sides. but i just i don't know about you, but i just feel it doesn't feel as hopeful as i want it to be. >> the americans are very worried because biden's team has made it clear that they want this to be built on and netanyahu , more particularly his netanyahu, more particularly his defence minister, yoav galant , defence minister, yoav galant, has said no, that we fight on.

and this is where israel is beginning to suffer from the information proper ganda war because cause people taking the aid in are saying, well, what more are you going to do? the destruction they have described graphically and the ambassador of belgium and spain went down to the rafah cross crossing yesterday and have said all this has got to stop. it's got to be a humanitarian thing. and they've been called in by the israeli foreign ministry because they don't like it. so both sides seem to be saying that the war goes on. netanyahu galant on one hand, and mr sinwar, his office, the leader of hamas on the other side. and meanwhile, in the middle, the groups that really wanted to stop are the israelis living in the south of israelis living in the south of israel adjoining this. but above all, the palestinians . and this all, the palestinians. and this is where people like president

biden and macron really are making a strong point. you're going to have to talk sometime. so so it's better sooner rather than later. but this is where there is no positioning either in jerusalem, tel aviv , the big in jerusalem, tel aviv, the big command centres of israel or in gaza, where the leadership , gaza, where the leadership, whatever leadership there is, there , but particularly in qatar there, but particularly in qatar , where the financial and political leadership of hamas is, they're not getting in any position . in to discuss with position. in to discuss with each other. one of the best pieces of writing that i've read in the past 24 hours is by an old friend of mine called roger cohen of the new york times , and cohen of the new york times, and he is jewish. he has covered israel palestine for ages and he has saying that what is so sad about this is that when he and i started working there, that

arabs and israelis frequented each other, but not quite each other's home, but talk to each other. talk to each other's language. yes. and now it's how dehumanising is this? this propaganda war? the social media war, the fake news war has become . and it's looking very, become. and it's looking very, very difficult . but what's known very difficult. but what's known technically as a wicked problem and a wicked problem is one with no obvious solution . no obvious solution. >> and that's i find the depressing thing about this. and again, speaking personally, i mean, this is wonderful and people are being released to their loved ones. however at the end of this pause, not a ceasefire, a pause, we're not allowed to call it a ceasefire. you're not allowed to call it a ceasefire. it's a pause. i just get the impression from the rhetoric from both sides that it's going to be even more bloody and even more violent. after the pause . after the pause. >> i think something that >> well, i think something that is having an effect here, too, which we've got to look at over to the left , as it were, or to to the left, as it were, or to the north, is what's happening

in ukraine. and i think the western world. yes there is loosely a thing called the western world. you know, europe is joined by countries like japan, australia and so on. and, you know, even south the south korea is saying, golly , we korea is saying, golly, we cannot allow this to go on, a continuing round of violence, which creates more misery , more which creates more misery, more cost to us, more refugees, more bloodshed . and i think there is bloodshed. and i think there is there is a link between those two because frankly , even when two because frankly, even when you get america, but also the main european allies, i'm just saying physically where we are, britain, france, germany, italy , britain, france, germany, italy, saying, look, we haven't got the ammunition, we haven't got the supplies, we haven't got we cannot sustain, you through this. and this is the problem for the uk because we are very committed. we were we are committed. we were we are committed to qatar, where we have quite a strong alliance , have quite a strong alliance, that the british have been very much involved in the agencies in

gaza, particularly unrwa and the relief and works agency , which relief and works agency, which is largely set up with a lot of british agency in the late in the late 40s, early 50s, it was the late 40s, early 50s, it was the early 50s that it really came in. but, you know, can we really shrug our shoulders and walk away? no, because one thing that we have learnt from this by neglecting it and the americans are beginning to realise this, they didn't pay attention to what was going on between palestine, israel and it will come back and bite you in a very tender part of your anatomy. >> and as much as we hope the hostages are released, hamas can't afford to do that, can they? because then they have no bargaining tools left. no. >> and i think that is the most worrying and one of the most it's very difficult to do , but it's very difficult to do, but it's very difficult to do, but it is a very worrying aspect because if they mean what they say and i'm fortunately they show no stepping back despite all this terrible destruction that they want to go on. it's

going to be very difficult to get all those hostages out. >> it doesn't it doesn't seem like the hope that you initially thought. yeah, but it does seem to be that it is going to be countries around like america, like egypt, like qatar to get around the table again. and see what can be achieved . what can be achieved. >> yeah but that's where you get the complexity know two really big arab nations you get egypt and you have saudi arabia. they there's a lot about the way the palestinian community emerged after the israeli withdrew from gaza in 2005, 2002, 2006. it was all gone. and about hamas itself, that they really don't like because it comes from a grouping, as you know, the muslim brotherhood. and that's why they are playing mr and mrs. reluctant about this. they don't want egypt, particularly doesn't want egypt, particularly doesn't want 1,000,000 million , 700,000, want 1,000,000 million, 700,000, maybe up to 2 million in gaza

and refugees going into egypt. >> this is the problem isn't it? >> this is the problem isn't it? >> i mean, every every you know, robert, conversation we've robert, every conversation we've had show is linked to had on today's show is linked to one another. the migration issue, the global migration issue, the global migration issue, the global migration issue, the unsettlement in the middle east. it's a in any case, robert fox, thank you so much for coming in and making sense of a very complicated situation. you're watching and listening to gb news saturday with me. dawn neesom. lots more coming up on today's show with his tantalising tax cuts, chancellor jeremy hunt has fuelled the rumours that the tories are geanng rumours that the tories are gearing up for a spring election. an election had been widely, widely expected next autumn, but there are claims the conservatives are being put on a war footing from the new year. could we see an election sooner than we expected ? do we want it? than we expected? do we want it? all of that and much more to come. you're watching and listening to gb news, britain's news channel .

isabel monday to thursdays from six till 930 . six till 930. >> welcome back to gb news saturday with me. dawn neesom on your tv online and on digital radio with his tantalising tax cuts, chancellor jeremy hunt has fuelled the rumours that the tories are gearing up for a spnng tories are gearing up for a spring election . in an election spring election. in an election had been widely expected next autumn, but there are claims

that the conservatives are being put on a war footing from the new year and if that wasn't enough either , litvinenko, the enough either, litvinenko, the tory campaign manager behind boris's 2019 landslide, is reportedly set to return to number 10, and jordan , me, me. number 10, and jordan, me, me. now to make sense of any of that is former conservative special adviser claire pearsall and co founder of novara media, aaron bastani. thank you so much for joining me this afternoon. both of you. okay who wants to attempt to make sense of a snap election in the spring? clare, let's come to you first. what do you what do you make of this suggestion? >> well , it's always a suggestion? >> well, it's always a guessing game when it comes to general elections , but just having a elections, but just having a look at what happens in the autumn statement of this week with the tax cut on national insurance being brought in from january , it just leads you to january, it just leads you to believe that they would give people three months of a bit of extra money in their pocket. perhaps then announcing an

earlier spring statement with further tax cuts and then you would go to the country with people feeling, oh, well , the people feeling, oh, well, the tories are on my side, they're making me have more money in my pocket . so it kind of looks as pocket. so it kind of looks as if they're setting that up. now the election could come earlier . the election could come earlier. we've been told to be on a war footing from january, so hopefully we'll hold it out until may when the local elections are and keep it all in one go. but in this game, who actually knows? it could come earlier than that aaron. >> what do you make of it all? >> what do you make of it all? >> yeah, i think an early election would be crazy. the conservatives , frankly, conservatives, frankly, particularly when in january, because look , you're talking because look, you're talking about potentially the average person is on £30,000 a year. will be around £30 a month better off because of these changes to national insurance. but then, of course, the events of the of the truss premiership and frankly, all of all of this year and most of last two have hammered people in their pocket. you know, my mortgage is about

£500 month more than it was £500 a month more than it was because of liz truss. now, not because of liz truss. now, not because of liz truss, but that's the kind of that's the popular zeitgeist. that's how her premiership interpreted. she premiership was interpreted. she was catastrophe was an absolute catastrophe for interest accessing interest rates and for accessing any of credit. we say any kind of credit. we can say there's a bunch of other reasons why very complex it would have happened regardless of who was in that's the in charge. but that's the fact of the matter . and think when of the matter. and i think when you're your mortgage you're looking at your mortgage being £500 a month, more energy pnces being £500 a month, more energy prices food prices being so high, food inflation, inflation going through roof over the last through the roof over the last two years, i think being £30 a month better off really isn't going to cut the mustard. so i think, you know, look, it's not bad. it's probably a it's a it's a positive for them and it's an easy, quick the easy, quick sell to the electorate. a good retail electorate. it's a good retail offer as they like to say in politics. but i think if you look at the bigger picture over the two, years, the last two, three years, what's happened living what's happened to living standards, cutting, tweaking national insurance like this is really to adopt phrase really to adopt a phrase urinating in the wind, shall i say . say. >> claire, coming back to you? i mean , this suggestion seems to mean, this suggestion seems to be coming from some senior

treasury figures who are suggesting hold in early suggesting hold in the early budget next february , which has budget next february, which has fuelled for the snap fuelled speculation for the snap election in spring. obviously the budget is normally in march, so they by the sounds of that, they sound quite pleased with they sound quite pleased with the autumn statement . but the autumn statement. but unfortunately for them, 930 the following morning we had the immigration figures which instantly knocked them back again . and do you think that again. and so do you think that it's really they actually think they've done a good thing with they've done a good thing with the autumn statement and people , the autumn statement and people, as aaron's just alluded to, aren't really seeing through it. it seems like they're giving with but taking away with one hand, but taking away much more with other, but much more with the other, but doing stealthily . doing it stealthily. >> yeah. mean, i think that's >> yeah. i mean, i think that's when you start looking at the small the autumn small print of the autumn statement. you realise it wasn't quite the celebration that it perhaps should have been, but there is very little room for there is very little room for the government to, to move fiscally and to get to the tax cutting that they would like to do. and i think going to one of aaron's points, i think the

longer the conservative party leave it, it's not just the economy that suffers . you've economy that suffers. you've also got the problem with during the summer months, the small boats will keep coming. so your immigration problem doesn't get any better. you've also got the rwanda judgement and the treaty that the prime minister is trying to get through the house probably as early as next week . probably as early as next week. if that fails, he will want to go to the country and say here we go, i've tried . i was we go, i've tried. i was thwarted by the courts or whoever it is, the movement, whoever it is, the movement, whoever he wants to blame at the time and then you go to the country. so i think it's an amalgamation of all of it. you can't just look at the budget and take that as one argument. you've got immigration as another. what's going to happen you've got immigration as anothaitingat's going to happen you've got immigration as anothaitingat's g(especially»pen with waiting lists, especially over winter months, where over the winter months, where we know that the health care sector gets into a bit of a crisis dunng gets into a bit of a crisis during the winter. so i think spnng during the winter. so i think spring is probably going to be a more time . i spring is probably going to be a more time. i think spring is probably going to be a more time . i think the more optimum time. i think the longer you leave it, the more problems stoke up. and problems you stoke up. and it also makes the labour party come

out and present their position because they've had to back the budget. so they're not looking as if they're putting any other ideas it puts more ideas forward. so it puts more pressure on them and actually that's more damaging for the labour party than it is for the conservatives. >> aaron. we discussed just now how obviously , you know, the how obviously, you know, the autumn statement gave them a bit of a boost, but then the migration figures knocked them back down again in the popularity polls. what do you think is going to be most important to the electorate come an election, whether it is in spnng an election, whether it is in spring it in the autumn? spring or is it in the autumn? is it the money they have in their or it the their pocket, or is it the migration issue? >> oh, well, it's a great >> oh, well, it's such a great question. think, for hard core question. i think, for hard core tory voters, let's say 25% of the public, you know , it's not the public, you know, it's not enough to win an election, but they need people to win. they need those people to win. it's a necessary precondition to win clearly for those win. i think clearly for those people, immigration figures people, the immigration figures are important to get are hugely important to get them over line. however you know over the line. however you know that middle third of the country to over the line, the to get them over the line, the key issue is going to be the

cost living fundamentally and cost of living fundamentally and why i'm surprised that calls for an early really boils an early election really boils to down interest rates. right now, we've got interest rates above 5. and i think, you know, you could look at an election saying june, july, and you might have interest rates 1.51, nought point 5% lower. but in any case, at that point, rishi sunak a go to the country and say inflation has come down. i mean, it's coming down really quickly. it should be pretty low by the middle of next year. we've seen brexit, we've seen out the ukraine war, we've seen out covid. my goodness, how much has happenedin covid. my goodness, how much has happened in the last several years now seen a way years and now we've seen a way higher rates of inflation, particularly energy, food and high interest rates which are now falling . i think that's now falling. i think that's actually a good story . i still actually a good story. i still probably wouldn't vote them , probably wouldn't vote for them, but think that's a good but i think that's a good compelling a compelling story and it's a coherent story. it's the people that are minded to vote for the conservatives. so calling an election interest rate election before interest rate rises or interest rates stop rising and start to fall, i think is a fool's errand.

>> okay. thank you very much . >> okay. thank you very much. that's claire pearsall and aaron bastani. thank you very for bastani. thank you very much for joining we're running out of joining us. we're running out of time, unfortunately. that's it from tuned from me today. but stay tuned because nana up next with because nana is up next with a cracking show, sure, and cracking show, i'm sure, and looking resplendent in green. it looks we've we've both looks like we've got we've both got about to say got the mellow about to say that. got the mellow about to say tha but said it. no. so we've >> but you said it. no. so we've got loads up on the show. got loads coming up on the show. we've got some guests coming in who be talking about the who will be talking about the difficulties sadiq is difficulties that sadiq khan is facing his ulez facing with some of his ulez cameras the policing of cameras and the policing of them. got somebody who them. and we've got somebody who got because got injured because of some people were guarding people who were guarding those cameras. talking to cameras. so we'll be talking to them that. plus, of them about that. plus, of course, the israel hamas situation. is this is this how israel moved forward in the israel now moved forward in the war? a change? we'll war? is there a change? we'll discuss all that. discuss all of that. >> dawn, thank you so much, nana thatis >> dawn, thank you so much, nana that is a cracking show. don't you anywhere. you stay that is a cracking show. don't you because ywhere. you stay that is a cracking show. don't you because that'se. you stay that is a cracking show. don't you because that's going stay that is a cracking show. don't you because that's going to y that is a cracking show. don't you because that's going to be tuned because that's going to be great. you've been watching and listening gb news saturday listening to gb news saturday with thank so with medial neesom. thank you so much joining don't go much forjoining me. don't go anywhere. i'm anywhere. nana is back and i'm back tomorrow. a lovely back tomorrow. have a lovely afternoon stay tuned afternoon and stay tuned for nana bringing. thank you

nana she's bringing. thank you very much. >> hello there. greg >> hello there. i'm greg dewhurst your dewhurst and welcome to your latest forecast. latest gb news weather forecast. it on the cold side it is staying on the cold side as we move through the rest of the weekend. frost returning tonight, have rain tonight, but we will have rain moving the atlantic and moving in from the atlantic and we that on the bigger we could see that on the bigger picture. high pressure moves away we head into the away as we head through into the second of the weekend. second half of the weekend. replaced low pressure replaced by low pressure bringing outbreaks of rain turning this evening for turning chilly. this evening for many areas as skies, clear temperatures will tumble away, however, into the early hours. thicker cloud will move in to the far west. outbreaks of rain moving into parts of northern ireland. so mist and fog patches ahead of the rain and temperatures. well, towns and cities close to freezing below freezing in the countryside, —4 or —5 celsius is possible. but it means a sunny start with those fog patches still around first thing further north and east, thicker cloud in the west, outbreaks of rain moving in and this slowly pushing its way eastwards through the day. best of the sunshine holding on across parts of scotland. thicker cloud developing elsewhere and the winds just

starting to increase across the far southwest as milder air approaches here, 11 or 12 celsius. but elsewhere, cold day once 4 or 5 degrees at once more, 4 or 5 degrees at best into monday. that low pressure still around, giving outbreaks of showery rain across england and wales in particular, some heavy bursts possible, brighter skies for northern ireland scotland , but quite ireland and scotland, but quite windy across some eastern coast and it stays unsettled as we move through this week with further

and rain. >> hello. good afternoon and welcome to gb news on tv online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua and for the next few hours me and my panel will be taking on some of the big topics hitting the headlines right now. this show is all about opinion. it's mine as theirs and of course, yours. be course, it's yours. we'll be debating discussing at debating, discussing and at times disagree. but no times we will disagree. but no one cancelled . so one will be cancelled. so joining me in the next hour broadcast from columnist lizzie cundy and also former labour party adviser matthew laza. in a few moments time, we'll be covering the latest on the hostage situation between israel and hamas as more hostages are set to be released imminently. but before we do all that, let's get started. let's get your latest news with sophia . latest news with sophia. >> thank you, nana . good >> thank you, nana. good afternoon. it's 3:00. i'm sophia wenzler in the newsroom . hamas wenzler in the newsroom. hamas is due to release a group of

hostages through the rafah