and welcome to gb news >> hello and welcome to gb news sunday. with me, dawn neesom. thank you very much for joining me this lunchtime. for the next two hours, i'll be keeping you company on tv, online and on digital radio. coming up in this houn digital radio. coming up in this hour, former english footballer and manager terry venables has sadly passed away aged 80. he played with various clubs, including chelsea, tottenham hotspur and queens park rangers dunng hotspur and queens park rangers during the 1960s and 70s. he then thousands are expected to gather in london this afternoon for a march against the surging levels of anti—semitism across the country. organisers of the march say they no longer feel welcome in the capital, especially with the number of pro—palestine protests currently experiencing. we'll be there live with our amazing katherine forster this afternoon. then it turns out net migration has actually gone down to 672,000, but only because the figure for the previous year has been revised to show that net migration actually hit a record

level of 745,000. do keep up at the back . will the government the back. will the government get it sorted out before the next general election .7 and at next general election? and at the end of the hour , omid the end of the hour, omid scobie, the writer famous for writing about harry and meghan , writing about harry and meghan, is publishing a new book on the royal family that promises to highlight unsolved mysteries and reveal moments of the windsors should be ashamed of. oh, and do get in touch . send us your get in touch. send us your thoughts on gbviews@gbnews.com or send us a message on our socials. we're at gb news. very simple, but here's your latest news headlines with the very lovely sophia . lovely sophia. >> thank you, dawn. good afternoon . it's 1:01. i'm sophia afternoon. it's1:01. i'm sophia wenzel in the newsroom . reports wenzel in the newsroom. reports say the israel government has received the list of hostages who are expected to be released today. who are expected to be released today . an official told the today. an official told the times of israel that prime minister benjamin netanyahu's office are notifying the families . it office are notifying the families. it is the third day of

a four day truce which qatar says earlier today it hopes will be extended further with the release of more abductees . release of more abductees. meanwhile, smoke can be seen at the gaza border on the third day of the ceasefire . hamas of the ceasefire. hamas confirmed that a total of 340 trucks loaded with aid supplies has entered gaza through the rafah crossing since the truce began. rafah crossing since the truce began . nine year old irish began. nine year old irish israeli girl emily hand has been reunited with her father following her release by hamas. she is among 71 hostages released by the terrorist group after 50 days in captivity . 13 after 50 days in captivity. 13 israelis, six women and seven children, along with four thai nationals, were transported out of gaza through the rafah border crossing. the idf says the released hostages are now in israel and are reuniting with their families while being medically assessed . a delay to medically assessed. a delay to the process was resolved through mediation by egypt and qatar. chairman of kibbutz be'eri amit solve is relieved to see emily hand released . hand released. >> emily hand is a closure for me because unfortunately for me,

i'm the one who told her father that she has murdered been murdered, been found, murdered . murdered, been found, murdered. and a week later i'm the one who told his the father that she probably she captured so it's a kind of a relief for me that she's still alive. she's here. she with us. and i have to tell her father to give him a hug . her father to give him a hug. >> ceo of safra children's hospital at the sheba medical centre , professor at pesach , centre, professor at pesach, discussed the treatment of the women and children released from captivity in gaza. >> i am happy to say that despite the fact that the harsh conditions that have been under and . the experience of captivity and. the experience of captivity , they did not require any

emergent medical intervention , emergent medical intervention, we will keep them here at the edmond safra children's hospital for as long as they need us. and care for them, help them in their preparation of coming back to their communities. >> 39 palestinians have been released from a prison in the west bank in exchange for the israeli hostages. hundreds of palestinians welcomed the freed prisoners in the early hours this morning, crowds cheered, clapped and waved flags in the streets as buses of prisoners arrived . it's understood six arrived. it's understood six women and 33 children are among the freed prisoners in the second batch of the exchange deal second batch of the exchange deal, labour mp steve mccabe told gb news he would like to see a two state solution . see a two state solution. >> i want to see a free palestine as well. it's a labour friends of israel objective. i want a two state solution. i want a two state solution. i

want to see both the israeli people living in safety and security and the palestinian people in a free state living in safety and security . but you safety and security. but you can't do that when part of the potential palestinian state is being dominated by a terrorist organisation , it's absorbs the met. >> police have launched an investigation into a group of protests who intimidated a gb news political correspondent at a pro—palestine protest in london, katherine forster found shelter after being surrounded by irate demonstrators in a post on the met police say the right of the press to freely report on protests is no less important than the right to protest itself . they should be able to do so without facing intimidation or aggression . anne meanwhile, 18 aggression. anne meanwhile, 18 people were arrested during the pro—police stein protests in london yesterday . former england london yesterday. former england manager terry venables has died at the age of 80. his family

released a statement saying, we are totally devastated by the loss of a wonderful husband and father who passed away peacefully yesterday after a long illness. venables was in charge of england men's national team between 1994 and 1996. footballer gary lineker paid tribute, saying he was much, much more than just a great manager. he was vibrant , he was manager. he was vibrant, he was charming, he was witty . he manager. he was vibrant, he was charming, he was witty. he was a friend . this is gb news across friend. this is gb news across the uk on tv, in your car, on your digital radio, and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news now it's back to dawn . news now it's back to dawn. >> thank you very much. sophia and let's get straight into today's story, shall we? former engush today's story, shall we? former english footballer and manager terry venables has passed away at the age of 80. mr venables played for various clubs,

including chelsea, tottenham hotspur and queens park rangers dunng hotspur and queens park rangers during the 1960s and 70s. so let me go straight to my lovely panel today to have a quick chat about this. i'm joined by political commentator benedict spence and gb news host benjamin butterworth. now we just heard this morning that terry has passed away. he was 80. it was after a long illness. he managed many clubs in his career and was at the helm of england's unforgettable run to the semi finals of euro 96, where we were obviously beaten by germany on penalty is it's a sad loss. lots of tributes coming into him today. so obviously he was 80, but it doesn't matter how old people are. it's like that all they had a good innings, but it's benedict yeah it's he's part of the furniture really of engush part of the furniture really of english football you can't you sort of can't remember when he retired when he became a manager, when he stopped being manager. >> was just sort of blurs >> it was just sort of blurs into one large epoch.

>> had a quite varied time. >> he had a quite varied time. >> he had a quite varied time. >> i managed barcelona >> i think he managed barcelona at one point. >> he did indeed. yeah, absolutely. >> from queens park rangers to barcelona and back again. >> manager, once barcelona and back again. >>assistant. manager, once as assistant. >> managed australia. >> he also managed australia. >> he also managed australia. >> he also managed australia. >> he had a very sort of storeyed of it. and is storeyed time of it. and it is it is just sort of odd. >> you will notice that he's gone asi >> you will notice that he's gone as i say, gone just as that, as i say, sort of part of the furniture. >> there. and then suddenly >> he's there. and then suddenly you think, oh, actually that is a strange. a bit strange. >> right. >> but you're right. >> but you're right. >> it's not. >> ac it's, it's not. >>— >> ac it's, it's not. >> nowadays, i think what people aspire do. but actually, aspire to do. but actually, i think for people of his age, his era, the sort of the hard drinking actually drinking footballer, actually a lot didn't make it to lot of them didn't make it to that sort of age. >> no, actually, i think he has had a fairly good innings, all things yeah absolutely. >> i mean, benjamin, i know football isn't strong football isn't your strong point, one point, but obviously he's one of the you've heard him. the i mean, you've heard of him. he's the iconic names. he's one of the iconic names. i mean, they just don't i think if benedict just they don't benedict just play, they don't actually like actually make footballers like that. and it was one of the great era. >> i think it's a testimony to his on sport that, his impact on the sport that, you someone that was born

you know, someone that was born in the 60s is in was around in the 60s is still known today. >> you know the fact that he had such big impact football such a big impact on football and feel like and it does feel like a generation of great british sportspeople are dying out, particularly football. you particularly in football. you know, is not the first in know, this is not the first in recent we've lost. recent months that we've lost. and, when you think and, you know, when you think back we won the back to the last time we won the world cup, there's not many people playing people that were playing football around football that are still around from now. you from that era now. and so, you know, let's hope that the next the next terry venables is coming up road to a to win coming up the road to a to win next time. okay. coming up the road to a to win nexthat's okay. coming up the road to a to win nexthat's brilliant. right. >> that's brilliant. right. let's have a quick with our let's have a quick chat with our own ben jacobs, now sports journalist, broadcaster. own ben jacobs, now sports journalimore broadcaster. own ben jacobs, now sports journalimore about'oadcaster. own ben jacobs, now sports journalimore about whatister. own ben jacobs, now sports journalimore about what football tell us more about what football has this morning. ben, has lost this morning. ben, hello. afternoon. you hello. good afternoon. thank you forjoining us. good afternoon. >> football lost >> i think football has lost a character. football's lost a warm witty person and warm and witty person and football's lost somebody that had great on the had a great influence on the current manager, gareth current england manager, gareth southgate venables more southgate venables will be more remembered manager than remembered as a manager than a player, slightly player, which is slightly strange in many ways because he made 500 plus appearances for a variety of clubs. he won a league cup with chelsea, he won an cup spurs , and then, an fa cup with spurs, and then, as just discussing,

as we've just been discussing, he into management after he moved into management after he moved into management after he due to arthritis and he retired due to arthritis and he retired due to arthritis and he went from qpr to barcelona . he went from qpr to barcelona. he managed crystal palace. he obviously managed england at euro 96 as well and led them to the semi—finals when southgate famously missed that penalty. he was at spurs where he won an fa cup.so was at spurs where he won an fa cup. so a glittering career full of trophies and very colourful and warm character off the field as well. he tried to buy tottenham hotspur. he was a singer . he tottenham hotspur. he was a singer. he had a hit in the charts in 2010, which reached number 23, which was an elvis presley cover. so a man of many talents who will be sorely missed, both on and off the field. >> absolutely. as we were just saying , they don't actually make saying, they don't actually make footballers like that anymore. a real character where you think almost in the game today, it's not you're not allowed to be that sort of character. as you said, it's sort of like, you know, the pop songs and everything else. and do we know of tributes are of any tributes that games are going to games that are going to the games that are being today are going to being held today are going to pay being held today are going to pay to him? yeah tottenham will be wearing black armbands.

pay to him? yeah tottenham will be obviously ack armbands. pay to him? yeah tottenham will be obviously he armbands. pay to him? yeah tottenham will be obviously he armb.huge >> obviously he had a huge affinity club. i'm affinity with that club. i'm sure we'll either get sure that we'll either get a moment silence or a moment's applause then addition applause. and then in addition to that, england will be marking terry venables life the next time they play as well. and the world of football will come together because there's just so many clubs. you've got qpr to barcelona, you've got austria , barcelona, you've got austria, alia to crystal palace, you've got chelsea from his early days, so he touched many clubs and lots of different regions as well . and then away from well. and then away from football, he ran a small boutique hotel. he moonlit as a singer when he was at chelsea. they didn't want him performing, but he still did it anyway. and then already said later then as we've already said later in continued the in his career, he continued the singing . so it won't just be singing too. so it won't just be football, it will be some other businesses, particularly in hospitality, a lot to hospitality, that had a lot to do him well. and he do with him as well. and he travelled and went so many travelled and went to so many different so sorely different places. so sorely missed. i think well missed. and i think as well people the colour, people will look at the colour, but we need to remember too, he was manager and the likes was a man manager and the likes of gary lineker, the likes of gareth have said gareth southgate, have all said that had such big influence

that he had such a big influence on careers because he was on their careers because he was innovative and the he was innovative and the way he was innovative and the way he was innovative is was of the innovative is he was one of the most forthright man managers. he wasn't necessarily interested in the science side of the game , the science side of the game, but he took players individually and sure that they knew and made sure that they knew their jobs and worked with them in one on one manner. and that in a one on one manner. and that led like southgate led to somebody like southgate transitioning from a player and that horror moment that year in 96 where he missed the penalty to now being the england manager. so if we're talking about legacy, one legacy is can southgate now use he southgate now use what he learned from venables to go and lead to glory? lead england to glory? >> indeed. thank you very much. that's ben. ben jacobs , a sports that's ben. ben jacobs, a sports broadcaster , talking about broadcaster there, talking about the sad loss of terry venables, former england manager who has died aged 80 after a long illness. today, thoughts are obviously with his friends and family . now obviously with his friends and family. now we obviously with his friends and family . now we move on. thousand family. now we move on. thousand ads are expected to gather in london this afternoon for a march against the surging levels of anti—semitism across the country. organisers of the march

say they no longer feel welcome in the capital, especially with a number of pro—palestine protests . i think we saw seven protests. i think we saw seven recently, we, altogether recently, haven't we, altogether now joining me now is gb news political correspondent katherine forster. catherine, good afternoon. thank you once again for joining good afternoon. thank you once again forjoining us. can you again for joining us. can you tell us where you are and what's happening? yes good afternoon, dawn. >> so we're here just outside the royal courts of justice for this march against anti semitism. this has been triggered , of course, by the triggered, of course, by the horrors visited upon israel on october the 7th, when 1200 innocent israelis were slaughtered. 240 taken hostage . slaughtered. 240 taken hostage. now, the metropolitan police just passing behind me have another big job on their hands today. since october 7, we've got used to seeing, haven't we, protests here in london, in cities across the united kingdom, and indeed around the world. yesterday we had yet

another huge pro—palestinian pro protest. they've been happening pretty much weekly. i've also reported not just from those previously, but from a couple of other israeli events they've held vigils for the missing hostages in parliament square. they've had human chains set up doing everything to keep the hostage in the minds of the public. but today, something rather different on a much bigger scale . this march, they bigger scale. this march, they are expecting up to 40,000 people to turn up jewish and non—jewish, all standing in solidarity , saying that it is solidarity, saying that it is not okay for jews to feel intimidate , hated and frightened intimidate, hated and frightened intimidate, hated and frightened in the united kingdom, the police say reports of anti—semitism up over 1,000% since october. the seventh. we've had schools targeted . we've had schools targeted. we've had schools targeted. we've had schools targeted. we've had children going to school trying to hide the fact

that they're jewish. in this day and age, really quite incredible. so this march will be heading off at about half past one, processing through london. i've been asked not to give the route for security , but give the route for security, but you can be sure there's a very heavy police presence, a helicopter overhead about 1000 police on duty. >> catherine, you obviously i can see you're standing at a press point there. i mean, can you just compare the atmosphere to what the people gathered around you is like today compared to the atmosphere and in particular, the rather horrible incident you experienced yesterday ? experienced yesterday? >> yes , well, the mood is fairly >> yes, well, the mood is fairly quiet, rather sombre here. you know, these people , a lot of know, these people, a lot of them i was to talking a lady who was actually of indian heritage, who had come along who said that she'd felt traumatised for about a fortnight after events of a fortnight after the events of october 7. her family are sikh.

she was comparing it to the experience of sikhs in india a long time ago. so by no means just the jewish community here though many of them are . and as though many of them are. and as you mentioned, yes, i was at the pro—palestinian protest yesterday . i've been to several yesterday. i've been to several of them. they're generally be perfectly peaceful during the day. unfortunately yesterday, we gb news, myself and the camera man at were targeted by a guy with a loudhailer who basically, when he found out we were gb news said we were shouted down the loudhailer that we were fascists, that we were evil, that we were scum, which attracted a lot of attention. other protesters came and surrounded us. there were no police to hand out. and to be honest, was it was honest, it was it was frightening. we felt intimidated honest, it was it was frigianyway, we felt intimidated honest, it was it was frigianyway, thatzlt intimidated honest, it was it was frigianyway, that matter1idated honest, it was it was frigianyway, that matter is ated honest, it was it was frigianyway, that matter is now and anyway, that matter is now being taken forward by the police. we're going to go and give statements later on today. the police are going to pursue it very robustly. i'm sure, but hopefully be a less eventful day

today. and this march will pass off peacefully . off peacefully. >> thank you very much, catherine. that's katherine forster there live for us at the anti—semitism march in central london. and i just would like to say, i know catherine said earlier on that catherine was targeted for being a journalist, doing job. they were also doing herjob. they were also saying that the bbc had no right to be covering this story. and it is in countries like palestine under hamas's rule, where journalists aren't allowed to do their jobs properly. so to do theirjobs properly. so catherine does a very good job, very impartially. catherine does a very good job, very impartially . and i'm very impartially. and i'm just glad she's safe, because you very impartially. and i'm just glad sthe. safe, because you very impartially. and i'm just glad sthe point because you very impartially. and i'm just glad sthe point of cause you very impartially. and i'm just glad sthe point of what you very impartially. and i'm just glad sthe point of what weu very impartially. and i'm just glad sthe point of what we do know, the point of what we do here and on every single channel is to bring you the news as it happens. so thank you, catherine. catherine will be joining us for the afternoon to bnng joining us for the afternoon to bring up to date what is bring us up to date on what is happening on that march. now, bring us up to date on what is happ see g on that march. now, bring us up to date on what is happ see g on my march. now, bring us up to date on what is happ see g on my marcimake, bring us up to date on what is happ see g on my marcimake of let's see what my panel make of the march today. i am joined by benjamin butterworth and benedict spence . lots of bees in benedict spence. lots of bees in my life this afternoon . as long my life this afternoon. as long as no one mentions the brexit

world, i'll be okay. >> and you're the queen bee. >> and you're the queen bee. >> oh, my god. there's a reason he's here, obviously. thank you very much for that. right. okay. so obviously , we saw had, so obviously, we saw we had, i think was a 7th march for think it was a 7th march for peace in palestine . and it was, peace in palestine. and it was, as catherine reported, very well, mostly very peaceful . and well, mostly very peaceful. and this march is expected to be one of the largest against anti—semitism. we have seen. what do you make of the march today and what catherine was was was telling us then? >> well, it doesn't surprise me that she described the mood as sombre because , as you know, any sombre because, as you know, any of us who have jewish friends will have heard from them in the past weeks about just how past six weeks about just how anxious , just how oppressed they anxious, just how oppressed they have felt. you know, it is no exaggeration to say that the vast majority of jewish people in london been afraid to go in london have been afraid to go into central london on saturdays. when you've had these marches for palestine, each week. and of course there are plenty of decent people on those marches. problem is that marches. but the problem is that you have people freely you also have people freely saying things like hitler was

right on the streets of london and in some cases not even being accosted, let alone arrested by police officers . as i have police officers. as i have a friend who a jewish friend who sent me a screenshot of his relatives business and she had been told by customers that they no longer wanted to do business with her because they realised she was jewish and there was a situation in a university where they want to play the they didn't want to play the universe . jewish society team in universe. jewish society team in a sports match because they were jewish. now these things do absolutely nothing to affect or to help the palestinians , or for to help the palestinians, or for that matter, the israelis . and that matter, the israelis. and yet they have seeped into british society. and, you know , british society. and, you know, i think it's incredibly important that they go out and make a stand because there aren't many jewish people there were 300,000 the were 300,000 people on the pro—palestine march the other week on armistice day . that's week on armistice day. that's more than the whole jewish population of britain. so you can imagine how dwarfed by the size events they feel. size of events they feel. >> benedict i mean, obviously anti—semitism, as catherine said

in her report, has risen by over 1,000. we also need to point out that islamophobia and islam, you know , attacks have risen as well know, attacks have risen as well . i mean, there are over 300,003 sorry, three 300 of those. >> the thing to remember about thatis >> the thing to remember about that is that the uptick in anti—semitism happened on october seventh and in the immediate aftermath. >> and it wasn't until significantly afterwards that you saw an uptick in you then saw an uptick in islamophobia as a result of the backlash . and i think that that backlash. and i think that that actually to what the actually speaks to what the dynamics are at play here. it is grotesque hate it when grotesque in i hate it when people in this day and age, people say in this day and age, in 20, in 2023. but it is grotesque this day and grotesque that in this day and age, anti—semitism has any kind of a place in a society that claims multicultural. claims to be multicultural. but there very clearly not there very clearly is not multicultural because the jewish community, to community, if you wanted to pinpoint of how pinpoint an example of how multiculturalism can work and has go has worked, you would go straight jewish community straight to the jewish community and would say, actually and you would say, actually across britain it has managed to integrate itself. it almost integrate itself. it is almost completely without completely anglicised without losing its identity. is not

losing its identity. it is not aggressive , it is not aggressive, it is not segregationist, not really. you know, you have a few sort of herodian communities, but that is much a sort of is very much a sort of a minority. and by and large, it keeps itself to itself . it keeps itself to itself. it doesn't fall into one or another political it is a political category. it is a broad spectrum. it contributes greatly to the economic, the cultural , the educational and cultural, the educational and the political life of this country to have people then who are more marching ostensibly in support of a foreign war somewhere else , deciding to somewhere else, deciding to target part of british community, not israelis , british community, not israelis, british people based on their ethnicity , people based on their ethnicity, on their religion is revolting . on their religion is revolting. it shows a breakdown in our ability broadly to integrate people that they think that this is acceptable. now, we do actually have to be quite brusque about why it is that this is happening, what parts of the coming from, the world they're coming from, and say that part of the and say that it is part of the ingrained culture some ingrained culture of some of those countries to teach anti—semitism in the madrassas in the schools? why lot of in the schools? why a lot of that do israel, but

that is to do with israel, but also lot of it part of the also a lot of it is part of the broader history between islam and judaism. we have not actually or actually done our best or i would anything to address would say anything to address that its source ultimate . that at its source and ultimate. it is because in britain our version of multiculturalism is a very sort liberal hands off. very sort of liberal hands off. let's not try to be too interventionist. let's try to be tolerant. very different tolerant. it's very different from, example, the from, for example, the traditional version of traditional american version of multiculturalism which if multiculturalism, which is if you want come to america, you want to come to america, you're going to salute the flag and you're going to it's you are going first and going to be american. first and foremost. taken a much foremost. we have taken a much more sort of laissez faire attitude, there been attitude, and there have been a lot benefits to that. people lot of benefits to that. people feel a lot less sort of intimidated. people feel a lot less sort of less pressurised to sort of conform. the side of conform. but the flip side of thatis conform. but the flip side of that is some communities have conform. but the flip side of that iablene communities have conform. but the flip side of that iable to communities have conform. but the flip side of that iable to get munities have conform. but the flip side of that iable to get away:ies have conform. but the flip side of that iable to get away with ave been able to get away with certain prejudices, certain behaviours that are unacceptable, not unacceptable, but people are not prepared another prepared to talk about. another very example of this, it's prepared to talk about. another very covered mple of this, it's prepared to talk about. another very covered extensivelys, it's prepared to talk about. another very covered extensively byt's prepared to talk about. another very covered extensively by gb been covered extensively by gb news the grooming gang news is the grooming gang scandal, the attitude amongst certain towards certain communities towards young people, towards white people, was people, towards girls. why was that allowed? it's because people they people feel awkward. they don't want it. and that is want to do it. and that is something that society in

general address general has to address and i thought was very interesting thought it was very interesting as catherine said they as well that catherine said they can't give the route can't actually give the route out this particular march for out of this particular march for security reasons, where the route of the palestinian peace march available. >> telling indeed. right. >> very telling indeed. right. okay benjamin and benedict are staying with me. but you are watching and listening to gb news sunday with me, dawn neesom. lots more up on neesom. lots more coming up on today's show. it turns out, actually that net migration has actually that net migration has actually gone down 672,000, but only because the figure for the previous year has been revised to show that net migration had actually hit a record level of 745,000. well, the government get it. will they get it right? will they get it sorted out before the next general election? whenever that actually is? all and much more to is? all of that and much more to come. you're watching and listening britain's listening to gb news, britain's news anywhere .

>> no, i don't. and i think that's part of the problem of freezing the tax allowances were drawing lots of people . drawing lots of people. >> well, you're listening to gb news radio , dbs and co only on news radio, dbs and co only on gb news. >> so i join gb news because i

was sick and tired of not heanng was sick and tired of not hearing my views, hearing the views of the people that i know and love. never hearing them represented . and i felt represented. and i felt sometimes like i was going mad. surely i cannot be the only person that thinks this way. and of course i wasn't ever the only person. it was just that the media were barely picking up the kind of views and perspectives that i and people that i knew had dbs and co weeknights from. six >> welcome back to gb news

sunday with me dawn neesom on tv, online and on your digital radio. >> now it turns out the net migration has actually gone . migration has actually gone. down to 672,000. but only because the figure for the previous year has been revised to show that net migration actually hit a record level of almost 750,000. i know keep up. it's a sunday, but there are lots of figures. but we'll get there in the end. it's rishi there in the end. it's put rishi sunak under renewed pressure from his party as tory mps are demanding from ministers demanding action from ministers to those numbers. now to bring down those numbers. now it's a question we've all been talking about all week what is going on? how is it going on? what going to do about what is anyone going to do about it? thankfully i two b's it? thankfully i have two b's here. benjamin and benedict, to help me through this mess. i'm going to come to you first. benjamin now, do you find these immigration figures scary? >> i think they are kind of at the point where it becomes hard to be practically managed. i mean, look happened mean, look at what happened here. when david cameron came into said we'll get into power, he said we'll get numbers of numbers to the tens of thousands. well, they're triple what they were when labour left office. about

office. now, which was about a quarter 1,000,013 years quarter of 1,000,013 years ago. they're double they're well over double what they voted they were when people voted for brexit. it was big brexit. and i think it was a big part some people, the part of why some people, the last labour government did manage them well. manage to treble them as well. >> if it's not just >> by the way, if it's not just one this one party that achieves this trick, there's trick, i think there's a profound in profound dishonesty in the government's to government's response to these figures out figures because they've come out and it's too high, we and said, oh, it's too high, we must do something about it. >> now, aside from the fact that it's happened to three years on a row at this level and they've, you know, on their watch, i think the truth is that a lot of business groups and economic forecasters would tell you that we have industries like health and social care, hospitality , and social care, hospitality, things like lorry drivers, where they needed migrant workers because those industries were struggling without enough

laboun struggling without enough labour. and that was a big problem. and so i think the government recognise that and that's why it's been really quite easy to get visas in industries like that. so this isn't an accident that they didn't notice what was going on. it was because they thought it would benefit the economy . but would benefit the economy. but now they've got the politics of it. they've got an election coming up and they're trying to play coming up and they're trying to play it the other way. i think that's quite misleading. >> we've got a million people

unemployed in this country. why aren't we doing the jobs that we aren't we doing the jobs that we are supposedly in, you know, the migrants into do this is the exact word that benjamin used was dishonesty. >> this is dishonesty. this was dishonesty. >> this is dishonesty . this is >> this is dishonesty. this is the idea that we fundamentally need these people. no, we don't fundamentally need them. it is just cheaper and easier to bring them in than necessarily train people or cajole people back into work. another part of the problem is, of course, the demographic collapse that is facing the country, which is that the people are already that the people who are already here are not having enough

children up with children to sort of keep up with with rate. but children to sort of keep up with with of rate. but children to sort of keep up with with of issue rate. but children to sort of keep up with with of issue wee. but children to sort of keep up with with of issue we facet part of the issue that we face with people coming with this many people in coming in, enough in, we're not building enough housesis in, we're not building enough houses is we're not building enough infrastructure in general, frankly, which is pushing mass pushing costs up and mass immigration pushing costs up and mass immigrati0|wages. so not only suppresses wages. so not only is everything expensive , it is everything more expensive, it is much for people to keep much harder for people to keep up it as a result of the up with it as a result of the migrant in. migrant labour coming in. and that partly why businesses that is partly why businesses want migrant because want migrant workers, because they will do the work for less so there is another actually so and there is another actually sort dishonesty sort of profound dishonesty here at is at the heart of it, which is that they are highly that we are told they are highly skilled people, they're highly trained, highly trained, they aren't the highly skilled people the united skilled people go to the united states better states where they are better paid. australia paid. they go to australia where they they to they are better paid, they go to canada paid canada where they're better paid just people just like the people who are leaving if you just like the people who are lea�*the if you just like the people who are lea�*the top if you just like the people who are lea�*the top of if you just like the people who are lea�*the top of your if you just like the people who are lea�*the top of your classf you just like the people who are lea�*the top of your class in'ou are the top of your class in engineering indian engineering at an indian university, you do not come to the go a place where the uk. you go to a place where you properly and you will be properly paid and that here. want that isn't here. i want the benjamin to you. benjamin coming back to you. >> are >> why do people, when they are worried and worried about this and articulate worried articulate being worried about this, understandable, this, which is understandable, people people know, appointments, people you know, can't, you know, can't get hospital treatment. you know, we've 7.8 million people hospital treatment. you know, we"hospital8 million people hospital treatment. you know, we"hospital waitingn people hospital treatment. you know, we"hospital waiting list. )ple hospital treatment. you know, we"hospital waiting list. why? hospital treatment. you know, we"hcpeople vaiting list. why? hospital treatment. you know, we"hcpeople vaitin�*concernsiy? hospital treatment. you know, we"hcpeople vaitin�*concerns about hospital treatment. you know, we"hthe)ple vaitin�*concerns about hospital treatment. you know, we"hthe numbern�*concerns about hospital treatment. you know, we"hthe numbern�*c migrants bout hospital treatment. you know, we" hth into mbern�*c migrants bout hospital treatment. you know, we"hth into this'n�*c migrants bout hospital treatment. you know, we"hthinto this'ncmigrare bout coming into this country, are they accused of being racist? >> what they're >> well, it depends what they're talking about. you know, if they're million talking about. you know, if they're of million talking about. you know, if they're of a million talking about. you know, if they're of a certain million talking about. you know, if they're of a certain ethnicityon

talking about. you know, if they're of a certain ethnicity on people of a certain ethnicity on their that their street, then i think that would racist. would be racist. >> actually ever says >> nobody actually ever says that, they say, we that, do they? they just say, we don't don't don't want that. we don't want any more migrants. we can't cope. the country is full. >> sometimes, know, >> i mean, sometimes, you know, you really you get people that really aren't between aren't distinguishing between the that the children of migrants that were and migrants were born here and the migrants themselves. so, look, i think there racism there is an element of racism to some people, but the fact is that a lot of these people actually are from hong kong or from afghanistan actually are from hong kong or fro settlement afghanistan actually are from hong kong or fro settlement schemeszghanistan actually are from hong kong or fro settlement schemes that|istan on settlement schemes that individually popular on settlement schemes that indivthe|lly popular on settlement schemes that indivthe public popular on settlement schemes that indivthe public so»opular with the public and so what i find about the fact, you find amazing about the fact, you know, numbers are know, you say the numbers are down previous down compared to the previous yeah down compared to the previous year. previous year year. well, the previous year included number people year. well, the previous year incluover number people year. well, the previous year incluover a number people year. well, the previous year incluover a hundreds ber people well over a hundreds of thousands of those were from those schemes. so those resettlement schemes. so the we've still the idea that we've still managed numbers managed to have similar numbers a when things have a year on when those things have died is quite died down a little bit is quite remarkable. died down a little bit is quite remarkablemean, died down a little bit is quite remarkable mean, just that >> yeah, i mean, just that actually, the actually, according to the official statistics, most of the migrants official statistics, most of the migran'are india and figures are from india and nigeria chinese, pakistan , nigeria. the chinese, pakistan, pakistan. so yeah, china and pakistan. so yeah, china and pakistan and ukraine actually pakistan and ukraine is actually at bottom of this list. many pakistan and ukraine is actually at themttom of this list. many pakistan and ukraine is actually at themttom india; list. many pakistan and ukraine is actually at themttom india; listnigeria. pakistan and ukraine is actually at andnttom india; listnigeria. pakistan and ukraine is actually at andnttom that'slistnigeria. pakistan and ukraine is actually at andnttom that's important. >> and i think that's important because the because that shows that the previous years, three quarters of dominated by of a million were dominated by those schemes. those resettlement schemes. but this a more this is sort of a more intentional migration there this is sort of a more intenti be|l migration there this is sort of a more intenti be|l nsignson there this is sort of a more intentibenlnsignson thatiere would be no signs that that would be no signs that that would that that would fall unless they changed the system. you know, we had more people come in the last year from nigeria we from eu nigeria than we did from eu countries. that's

countries. now i think that's you is countries. now i think that's y(good is countries. now i think that's y(good but is countries. now i think that's y(good but i is countries. now i think that's y(good but i think is countries. now i think that's y(good but i think that's s a good thing, but i think that's quite an amazing statistic given that the one that this government was the one that this government was the one that to that said will leave the eu to cut the immigration figures. well, did it? >> it hasn't. so, i mean , >> no, it hasn't. so, i mean, brexit, that to brexit, two things that need to be just benjamin said. >> e g the subject of >> the first on the subject of the coming lot the nigerians coming in, a lot of those are students or their dependents. they're not actually people contributing to the economy people contributing to the ecomumber of dependents that the number of dependents that nigerian in, it nigerian students bring in, it is, you know, there is an expression the expression for it is taking the something loophole something that is a loophole that managed to exploit that they've managed to exploit at rate and at a very large rate and shouldn't for shouldn't be tolerated for one second because, of course, they're on they're allowed to stay here on visas are visas afterwards. and so are their dependents at their dependents and at which point then to point they are then able to bnng point they are then able to bring more who are not bring in more people who are not contributing to the economy. bring in more people who are not contr areing to the economy. bring in more people who are not contr are ing to taway onomy. bring in more people who are not contr are ing to taway onom it. they are taking away from it. the other thing, though, as benjamin these benjamin said, is a lot of these people are in on people are coming in on resettlement they're resettlement schemes. they're refugees. but we're always told that there aren't enough people coming in on these resettlement schemes, that they don't exist, that there are no safe routes for which is it? are for people. so which is it? are we say, we supposed to be happy and say, oh, fine? because oh, no, this is fine? because all these people all of these people are refugees? or is it hang on, we aren't enough refugees aren't taking enough refugees in. and it's always in. which is it? and it's always it's depending it's always massage, depending on be on what the angle has to be that day. debate >> okay. a heated debate and lots coming from >> okay. a heated debate and lots as coming from >> okay. a heated debate and lots as and:oming from >> okay. a heated debate and lots as and we ing from >> okay. a heated debate and lots as and we will from you as well. and we will probably return to at some you as well. and we will probalbutaturn to at some you as well. and we will probalbutaturn running some you as well. and we will probalbutaturn running outie you as well. and we will probalbutaturn running out of point. but now running out of time, so are time, unfortunately. so you are watching

time, unfortunately. so you are watch sunday dawn neesom news sunday with me. dawn neesom plenty today's plenty more coming up on today's show. up show. but first, let's catch up with headlines sophia. >> 134. i'm sophia wenzler >> it's134. i'm sophia wenzler in newsroom. reports say the in the newsroom. reports say the israel government has received the are the list of hostages who are expected released expected to be released today. an told the times of an official told the times of israel prime minister israel that prime minister benjamin netanyahu's office had notified the families. it is the third of four truce third day of a four day truce which qatar earlier today. which qatar says earlier today. it extended which qatar says earlier today. it with extended which qatar says earlier today. it with releaseed which qatar says earlier today. it with release of more further with the release of more abductees. all smoke abductees. meanwhile all smoke can be seen gaza border can be seen at the gaza border on day of the on the third day of the ceasefire confirmed that a ceasefire hamas confirmed that a total with total of 340 trucks loaded with aid has entered gaza aid supplies has entered gaza through crossing since through the rafah crossing since the . nine year old the truce began. nine year old irish israeli girl emily hand has been reunited with her father following her release by hamas. she among hostages hamas. she is among 17 hostages released the terrorist group released by the terrorist group after days captivity . 13 after 50 days in captivity. 13 israelis, six women and seven children, along with four thai nationals, transported out nationals, were transported out of border of gaza through the rafah border crossing. says the crossing. the idf says the released hostages are now in israel and reuniting with released hostages are now in israeifamily reuniting with released hostages are now in israeifamily while 1iting with released hostages are now in israeifamily while being with their family while being medically assessed. a delay to the was resolved the process was resolved through mediation qatar . mediation by egypt and qatar. chairman kibbutz bireh amit chairman of kibbutz bireh amit solve relieved to emily solve is relieved to see emily hand .39

solve is relieved to see emily hand . 39 palestinians hand released. 39 palestinians have been released from a prison in the west bank in exchange for the he the israeli hostages. he hundreds of palestinians welcomed the freed prisoners in the this morning, the early hours. this morning, crowds clapped crowds cheered, clapped and waved streets as waved flags in the streets as buses prisoners arrived. it's buses of prisoners arrived. it's understood six women and 33 children among the freed children are among the freed prisoners second of prisoners in the second batch of the deal , prisoners in the second batch of the deal, labour mp the exchange deal, labour mp steve told gb news he steve mccabe told gb news he would like to see a two state solution . former england manager solution. former england manager terry venables has died at the age family released a age of 80. his family released a statement saying are totally statement saying we are totally devastated the loss of devastated by the loss of a wonderful husband and father who passed yesterday passed away peacefully yesterday after a long illness. venables was in charge of the england's men's 1994 men's national team between 1994 and 1996. foot baller gary lineker paid tribute, saying he was much, more than just was much, much more than just a great was vibrant. great manager. he was vibrant. he charming, was witty . he was charming, he was witty. he was charming, he was witty. he friend . and you can get he was a friend. and you can get more on all those stories by visiting our website at gbnews.com . gbnews.com. >> thank you very much, sophia and lots more coming up on today's show. omid scobie, the

writer famous for writing about harry and meghan, is publishing a book on the royal family a new book on the royal family that highlight that promises to highlight unsolved reveal unsolved mysteries and reveal moments would be moments of the windsors would be ashamed but ashamed of. all right. okay but first, at what first, let's take a look at what the doing with greg. the weather is doing with greg. >> there. greg >> hello there. and greg dewhurst your dewhurst and welcome to your latest gb news weather forecast. it's cloudy it's still rather cloudy, staying the next staying unsettled over the next few and temperatures few days and temperatures starting further well starting to fall further as well . dominating . low pressure dominating the weather pattern at the moment, bringing winds to bringing some brisk winds to eastern low pressure eastern areas. this low pressure moves away, allowing brief respite then, further respite before then, further weather move in through respite before then, further weamiddle move in through respite before then, further weamiddle nof'e in through respite before then, further weamiddle nof nextthrough respite before then, further wea middle nof next week.h the middle to end of next week. this evening lots of this evening time a lots of cloud outbreaks cloud across the uk. outbreaks of 1 or 2 heavier bursts of rain, 1 or 2 heavier bursts possible. dropping possible. temperatures dropping under parts under clear skies across parts of frost of scotland and patchy frost here, feeding in here, but showers feeding in from the northeast. elsewhere, lots cloud outbreaks rain lots of cloud outbreaks of rain will temperatures up. so will keep temperatures up. so a milder night than of late, generally up between generally holding up between 5 and celsius. that means and 9 celsius. but that means england, northern ireland england, wales, northern ireland will england, wales, northern ireland wi rain. this slipping of rain. this slipping slowly south through south eastwards as we go through the brighter skies the day, allowing brighter skies to follow across parts of northern ireland, western scotland, northern ireland, western sc england and wales. east of england and wales. the east staying with showery staying breezy with showery outbreaks be outbreaks of rain which could be heavy wintry heavy at times, turning wintry over the higher ground of scotland. temperatures scotland. and temperatures dropping goes

dropping as the day goes on. generally into single figures as the around a the winds turn around to a northerly direction then northerly direction. then into tuesday , it's a frosty tuesday, it's a cold frosty start. some fog patches first thing, then brighter, thing, and then a brighter, dner thing, and then a brighter, drier many. will drier day for many. there will be showers across be some wintry showers across the few the north. and then the next few days, continue days, temperatures continue to fall overnight. frost and fog and hill snow and the risk of some hill snow to . is who is and the risk of some hill snow to. is who is it? >> we're here for the show . >> we're here for the show. welcome to the dinosaur hour. with me, john cleese . haha, i with me, john cleese. haha, i was married to a therapist and you survived. i thought we were getting best. getting hugh laurie second best. i'm you interviewed i'm bellissima. you interviewed saddam that saddam hussein. what's that like? terrified. i'm like? i was terrified. i'm playing strip poker these three. >> no, $i- >> oh, no, thank you. >> oh, no, thank you. >> cds need to be in >> cds need to be put in alphabetical order. >> you going be >> oh, are you going to be problematic again? >> our sundays on >> the dinosaur, our sundays on gb news is . welcome back to gb gb news is. welcome back to gb news sunday with me. >> dawn neesom on your tv, onune >> dawn neesom on your tv, online radio. online and on digital radio. now omid writer famous omid scobie, the writer famous for sex notes. on for writing about sex notes. oh yeah, meghan. yeah, harry and meghan. how could publishing yeah, harry and meghan. how coul book publishing yeah, harry and meghan. how coul book on publishing yeah, harry and meghan. how coul book on royallishing yeah, harry and meghan. how coul book on royal family yeah, harry and meghan. how coul promises royal family yeah, harry and meghan. how coul promises to royal family yeah, harry and meghan. how coul promises to highlightnily that promises to highlight unsolved reveal unsolved mysteries and reveal moments? should be moments? the windsors should be ashamed called end game ashamed of? it's called end game inside royal family the inside the royal family and the monarchists survival. monarchists fight for survival. okay, were okay, just in case you were

aware, they were fighting for libel, contains libel, they work contains a number highly controversial number of highly controversial allegations, and we are now going well, we were going to be joined. we are going to be joined. we are going to be joined. we are going to be joined. he was hedging his bets there. actually the end game is we are actually going to talk to michael cole, royal correspondent extraordinaire, to find out more. michael, thank you very much for joining us to talk about this marvellous talk more about this marvellous book that i can't to read. book that i can't wait to read. go end game . i mean, i know go an end game. i mean, i know omid has done a an interview with one of the papers today revealing all. so do tell us more, please . more, please. >> good afternoon , dawn. yeah, >> good afternoon, dawn. yeah, end game is the title and i think there are plenty of people at the palace hope that this is the end of this particular game. we've sort of been here before for, um. uh more and more of the same old, uh, mr scobie says that he is not definitely not a megaphone for meghan and harry, but everything seems to be seen

through the prism of the sussexes as, um, once more we've got the race card being played by this two on their engage judgement day there when everything was so happy and so peachy this time it's not one person within the royal family but two raising questions about any of the colour of the skin of any of the colour of the skin of any children they may have . and any children they may have. and now of course racism is an easy car. it's an easy accusation to make, but it's an extremely difficult one to refuse. refute. you have to prove prove a negative . and we all remember negative. and we all remember when meghan had the interview with oprah winfrey and she raised this subject , with oprah winfrey and she raised this subject, and with oprah winfrey and she raised this subject , and oprah raised this subject, and oprah winfrey in a rather stagey way said, what? and her jaw dropped . said, what? and her jaw dropped. and of course, one has to remember , adorn that they were remember, adorn that they were both actress eyes and they were certainly giving what in my mind were very good performances at the time . now it's , uh, mr

the time. now it's, uh, mr scobie says that he thinks this book will burn any bridges he has with the royal family. well, i don't think he had very many. i don't think he had very many. i must tell you that the venom new york times accuses the book of being hyperbolic, exaggerate rating things. well, i think that's that's putting it mildly, because essentially he tries to trash the present members of the royal family and says that they should preside over the end of a monarchy that's lasted more than a thousand years. so he's not, uh, hedging his bets here. >> michael, i just wanted to one of the things that i picked up on here was he says there it's not just about playing the race card, which is going over old ground to a certain extent, but he moves on to new ground by saying, kate is too saying, our princess kate is too terrified to do anything but grinning. photo ops. he's not very he's not very complimentary about kate, is he ?

about kate, is he? >> well, you know something, dawn ? um, if you look at kate dawn? um, if you look at kate middleton, princess of wales , middleton, princess of wales, can you imagine anybody doing that job better than she does? she looks great. she sounds great. she does the right thing . great. she does the right thing. and she quite clearly is in love with her husband and they've got a lovely family of three children who happen to know are being brought up in a very nice way, very strictly, very lovingly within bounds . they're lovingly within bounds. they're not in the slightest bit spoilt . not in the slightest bit spoilt. now, let's talk about being spoilt because when you think about it, the people are having about it, the people are having a tough time in life. about it, the people are having a tough time in life . if they a tough time in life. if they look at the sussexes , they're look at the sussexes, they're too good looking people . they've too good looking people. they've got three to beautiful , healthy got three to beautiful, healthy children. they live in a sumptuous mansion up on a mountaintop in california. they're admired by many people. they're admired by many people. they're making oodles of money. they've got privilege in the bucket load at what have they

really got to complain about? and yet and yet and yet they seem to find fault all the time. i tell you something . i mean i tell you something. i mean this is behaviour that would disgrace the worst plot line in east enders and what are we looking at here? well, it really dawn, don't you think so? i mean, when you think about it, what have they got to complain about? they were adored when they got married and the crowds were 20 deep in windsor. great park cheering them. the media, all of us applauded wildly. they were a breath of fresh air. but they couldn't wait to scoot first to canada and then to california. perhaps always her intention. michael, one thing i'm curious ask a couple i'm curious to ask you a couple of things very quickly, because we running time, as we are running out of time, as usual here. >> does seem >> the book does seem particularly vitriolic about kate. there is an kate. do you think there is an element of jealousy between meghan and kate? >> what a big surprise that >> oh, what a big surprise that would be. i mean, think think

maybe dawn, you're probably, uh, you could be more understanding or more knowledge of how women are with each other. but but, yes, it also says that kate spent spends more time talking about meghan than she actually spent talking to her. but, you know, it takes two to tango when you're coming into a family, when you're joining an institution. don't you think in any family, you know, any family at all, you have to fit in. you have to be aware of the mores of the family. you've got to be, you know, be be accommodating and to be nice to people. i mean, i can't understand why any of this has happened because they are very, very privileged . they are very, very privileged. they're good looking people. they're good looking people. they haven't got really troubles in lives. and my goodness, in their lives. and my goodness, you know, if they can't show a proper example all, what on earth are they there for? >> i think we have to leave it there, unfortunately. we'll talk to you all afternoon on this subject. it does sound quite an amazing book, to be fair. that's

michael cole, royal expert there. you very for there. thank you very much for joining us. let's see what joining us. now let's see what my panel make of this. still my panel make of this. we still have butterworth have our benjamin butterworth and benedict with us and benedict spence here with us in studio . i'm and benedict spence here with us in studio. i'm going to come in the studio. i'm going to come to you first on this one. benedict mean, omid scobie, benedict i mean, omid scobie, i mean, a couple of a couple of years. we're running out of time. i'm sorry. i talk too much. i mean, scobie was a showbiz and now he's showbiz reporter, and now he's made an awful lot of money about not talking to harry and meghan about books he's writing. about books that he's writing. yeah, do with them. yeah, nothing to do with them. he just got very good he says he's just got very good sources. the that has been >> and the barrel that has been very thoroughly scraped being very thoroughly scraped is being scraped bit scraped just that little bit more if there's any sort more to see if there's any sort of residue that's left. and i really think that it's becoming very tired a little bit very tired and a little bit desperate, frankly. and the whole he doesn't whole line that, oh, he doesn't know he doesn't talk to know them, he doesn't talk to them, it's like, oh, sure, them, it's like, oh, yeah, sure, okay. that. okay. we all believe that. >> yeah. i mean, yeah, meghan did she sort of did forget that she had sort of kind helped out with his kind of helped out with his first until it was reminded first book until it was reminded in court when she said, in the high court when she said, oh, yes, our aid might have talked to them. unfortunately, we time. quick, we ran out of time. quick quick, quick, quick. benjamin, what do

you say? you like to say? >> i mean, think >> well, i mean, look, i think they want it to be end game. they want it to be the end game. but truth is, i think it's but the truth is, i think it's more likely to the end game more likely to be the end game of harry and meghan because they're the on they're scraping the barrel on they're scraping the barrel on the kind things that they the kind of things that they can reveal, they no reveal, given they have no contact practically with the royal know, i think royal family. you know, i think this about the end of the this is about the end of the road books, trying to road for these books, trying to them off. and just find it them off. and i just find it depressing you know, depressing because i, you know, like a lot of things that harry and meghan said the and meghan have said in the world, make it so world, but they make it so impossible like because impossible to like because they don't stop complaining. they really you? really want to, don't you? >> have been. and you >> it would have been. and you know, and as i worked with princess this would be princess diana, this would be breaking heart. and i do breaking her heart. and i do i do sorry for family do feel sorry for the family because it can't be nice, especially at this time of year. because it can't be nice, es anyally at this time of year. because it can't be nice, es any case,: this time of year. because it can't be nice, es any case, lots; time of year. because it can't be nice, es any case, lots more of year. because it can't be nice, es any case, lots more coming up in any case, lots more coming up on today's show. the much anticipated anniversary anticipated 60th anniversary episode last episode of doctor who aired last night. see it? but some night. did you see it? but some fans have lambasted episode fans have lambasted the episode as decision to as woke for the decision to include who was include a character who was revealed to be transgender. and all more to all of that and much more to come. i'm dawn neesom and you're

thursdays from six till 930 . thursdays from six till 930. >> welcome back to gb news sunday with me dawn neesom on your tv online and on digital radio. now the much anticipated 60th anniversary of doctor who aired last night with catherine tate and david tennant reunited to play donna and the doctor. however some fans haven't been that happy and said the episode was a bit woke for the decision

to include a character who was revealed to be trans gender. viewers commented that they were looking forward to the episode because the duo were previously in roles where doctor who was about entertaining and instead of liberal identity politics, so let's see what i mean. i watched it, i loved it. i thought it was very funny and i thought the transgender thing was poking fun at everybody. that gets a knickers in a twist about this issue. so let's see what my panel maker we're going to come to first on this to you first on this one. benjamin it contained miriam margolis which is margolis as a meep, which is basically mean basically a giant gonk. i mean, think teletubby, not teletubby or furby type creature thing, huh ? yes. and it was huh? yes. and it was transgender. i mean, wouldn't it be? >> i'm sorry. i find it, you know, patently ridiculous. people that are saying they can't imagine there being a transgender furby in doctor who. i mean, this is a show for which the entire concept is that they have a doctor who has lived for thousands of years and reappears as a different human being every

2 or 3 years, like if you can believe that, then i'm sure you can gather the idea that there might be a transgender character in the show. you know, it's not. >> it's a giant gonk i mean, it's not real. >> i don't think you should take it too seriously. but also, if you were take it seriously, you were to take it seriously, what so with what would be so wrong with having a transgender character in this? you in a program like this? you know, they exist in society just like black people know, they exist in society just likpeople black people know, they exist in society just likpeople in black people know, they exist in society just likpeople in wheelchairs people know, they exist in society just likpeople in wheelchairs and)le or people in wheelchairs and giant obviously the idea giant gongs. obviously the idea of one transgender furby, of having one transgender furby, i think is good representation. of having one transgender furby, i thin is s good representation. of having one transgender furby, i thin is s gonk?epresentation. of having one transgender furby, i this is s gonk?epresentation. of having one transgender furby, i this it s gonk?epresentation. of having one transgender furby, i this it different�*presentation. of having one transgender furby, i this it different tozsentation. of having one transgender furby, i this it different to aentation. of having one transgender furby, i this it different to a oh|tion. >> is it different to a on my god, is it different to mogwai? >> do you know what you know what a gonk is? >> well, i've just said, what is it? gone? what a mogwai it? gone? i know what a mogwai is, but yeah, it's. >> it is a children's >> it was. is this a children's age? if you're a certain age, right? gonks were like, were little toys fluffy hair. little toys with fluffy hair. i just think furbies. furbies. okay i'm furbies yeah, i know what gremlins yeah. what a furby is. gremlins yeah. gremlins. fine. gremlins. gremlins. okay, fine. okay case, it okay well, in any case, it contained of those, and it contained one of those, and it was transgender and when you feed midnight, it feed it after midnight, it doesn't into a monster. doesn't turn into a monster. well, actually, i can't it

away. >> but the gender ism is. >> but the gender ism is. >> that's not what transgender i've getting it wrong all i've been getting it wrong all this you're not supposed this time. you're not supposed to you're not to to get them wet. you're not to feed after midnight. oh, feed them after midnight. oh, well, i mean. >> okay well, i mean. >> the okay well, i mean. >> the key kay well, i mean. >> the key thing i take >> the key thing that i take away of this is that away from all of this is that doctor who is a children's show. i people like to sort of i know people like to sort of dress up and say, oh, it's a dress it up and say, oh, it's a family show. no, it's a children's and you have it children's show. and you have it within your power. if you don't like it, to turn it off or to change the channel, you don't have not your have to watch it. it's not your kids taught this in kids aren't being taught this in school. it is a thing that is on for hour, a couple of for an hour, a couple of times a yeah for an hour, a couple of times a year. they have the christmas special. everybody upset special. everybody gets upset because is, you because the new doctor is, you know, got heads know, he's got two heads or whatever, the whatever, you know, whatever the issue is today. and i really do wonder is about wonder what the fume is about this. show for this. it's a fantasy show for children of the people children and many of the people getting upset people getting upset are people in their 40s. come on. >> it was it was written by russell davies think russell t davies and i think it was i mean, the actual conversation with the conversation was with with the doctor, by doctor, brilliantly played by david tennant, was talking david tennant, who was talking to you do. and his to the gonk, as you do. and his donna's that's donna donna's daughter that's donna there do you there said, well how do you know it's and when it

it's a he? and that's when it was like, you know, they asked a giant what pronouns? was like, you know, they asked a giaii: what pronouns? was like, you know, they asked a giaii: ithat pronouns? was like, you know, they asked a giaii: ithat praiouns? was like, you know, they asked a giaii: ithat pra fairs? was like, you know, they asked a giaii: ithat pra fair point. >> i mean, that is a fair point. >> i mean, that is a fair point. >> does it even speak english? would the perfect english, would be the perfect english, obviously, is completely would be the perfect english, obviorfor, is completely would be the perfect english, obviorfor a is completely would be the perfect english, obviorfor a giant is completely would be the perfect english, obviorfor a giant gonknpletely would be the perfect english, obviorfor a giant gonk from aly weird for a giant gonk from another planet. it's always the thing these with thing with these with these with these aliens, they all speak the queen's these aliens, they all speak the quelrn's these aliens, they all speak the quel know. there that's it. >> that's british cultural power, intergalactic. >> that's british cultural power, ialso;alactic. >> that's british cultural power, ialso;alactiare there are >> but also there are there are species earth that are sort species on earth that are sort of gender fluid that change species on earth that are sort of getheirfluid that change species on earth that are sort of getheir sex. that change species on earth that are sort of getheir sex. right.hange species on earth that are sort of getheir sex. right. thata their their sex. right. that is a in the natural a very real thing in the natural in the natural world. so the idea this, you know, alien idea that this, you know, alien furby could be like that isn't quite furby could be like that isn't qui'that's the plot of jurassic >> that's the plot of jurassic park, there's one park, isn't it, that there's one frog that can change its sex and they just happen make they just happen to make the dinosaurs they just happen to make the din�*african african >> african that's african bullfrog. yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. i'm the only one here knows gonk one here that knows what a gonk is. a is? is. do you know what a gonk is? at least please message and at least please message me and let me know that i'm really not that ancient and on my own. okay. i think. i think have that ancient and on my own. ok.i'm think. ithink have that ancient and on my own. ok.i'm running think have that ancient and on my own. ok.i'm running out|k have that ancient and on my own. ok.i'm running out|k time|ve that ancient and on my own. ok.i'm running out|k time now. to. i'm running out of time now. i'm just digging a big hole here, i, with giant here, aren't i, with giant gongs? you're watching or listening to gb news with listening to gb news sunday with

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people's channel, britain's news channel. >> hello and welcome to gb news sunday. thank you for joining >> hello and welcome to gb news sunday. thank you forjoining us sunday. thank you for joining us this lunchtime. i'm dawn neesom and hour i'm and for the next hour i'm keeping tv online keeping you company on tv online and up and on digital radio. coming up this english this hour, former english footballer and terry footballer and manager terry venables has passed away aged 80. he played for various clubs, including tottenham and including chelsea, tottenham and queens park rangers during the 1960s and 70s. then thousands gather in london this afternoon for a march against the surging levels of anti—semitism across the country . organisers of the the country. organisers of the march say they no longer feel welcome the capital, welcome in the capital, especially with the number of pro—palestine protests. then 17 hostages by held by hamas were freed last night after hours after the delay raised fears that the truce deal with israel could fall through. this is the second release of hostages from hamas captivity, totalling 26in exchange for 78 palestinian prisoners . and mps will debate prisoners. and mps will debate to petitions relating to dangerous dogs. to petitions relating to dangerous dogs . they to petitions relating to dangerous dogs. they are currently five dog breeds banned

in the uk after they each earned a reputation for being dangerous or aggressive. house over. many people oppose these specific bans and instead say the onus should be placed on the dogs owners. so do get in touch. send us your thoughts on gbviews@gbnews.com or send us a message on our socials. very simple at gb news. but first, let's catch up on the news headunes let's catch up on the news headlines with sophia. >> good afternoon. it's 2:01. i'm sofia wenzel in the newsroom . reports say the israel government has received the list of hostages who are expected to be released today . an official be released today. an official told the times of israel that prime minister benjamin netanyahu's office are notifying the families. it is the third

day of a four day truce which qatar says earlier today it hopes will be extended further with the release of more hostages . meanwhile, smoke can hostages. meanwhile, smoke can be seen at the gaza border on the third day of the ceasefire hamas confirmed that a total of 340 trucks loaded with aid suppues 340 trucks loaded with aid supplies has entered gaza through the rafah crossing since the truce began . nine year old the truce began. nine year old irish israeli girl emily hand has been reunited with her father following her release by hamas . she is among 17 hostages hamas. she is among 17 hostages released by the terrorist group after 50 days in captivity . 13

after 50 days in captivity. 13 israelis, six women and seven children, along with four thai nationals, were transported out of gaza through the rafah border crossing. the idf says the released hostages are now in israel and are reuniting with their families while being medically assessed. a delay to the process was resolved through mediation by egypt and qatar. chairman of kibbutz be'eri amit solve is relieved to see emily hand released. >> emily hand is a closure for me because unfortunately i i'm the one who told her father that she has murdered been murdered, been found, murdered . and a week been found, murdered. and a week later i'm the one who told his the father that she probably .

the father that she probably. a captured. so it's a kind of a relief for me that she's still alive. she's here. she with us. and i have to tell her father to give him a hug. ceo of safra children's hospital at the sheba medical centre. >> professor itai pesach discussed the treatment of the women and children released from captivity in gaza. >> i am happy to say that despite the fact that the harsh conditions that have been under and the experience of captivity , and the experience of captivity, they did not require any emergency medical intervention , emergency medical intervention, then we will keep them here at then we will keep them here at the edmond safra children's hospital for as long as they need. hospital for as long as they need . and care for them, help need. and care for them, help them in their preparation of coming back to their communities

i >> -- >> 39 palestinians have been released from a prison in the west bank in exchange for the israeli hostages . hundreds of israeli hostages. hundreds of palestinians welcomed the freed prisoners in the early hours. this morning, crowds cheered, clapped , waved flags in the clapped, waved flags in the streets as buses of prisoners arrived. it's understood that six women and 33 children are among the freed prisoners in the second batch of the exchange deal , labour second batch of the exchange deal, labour mp second batch of the exchange deal , labour mp steve mccabe deal, labour mp steve mccabe told gb news he would like to see a two state solution . see a two state solution. >> i want to see a free palestine as well. it's a labour friends of israel objective. i want a two state solution. i want a two state solution. i want to see both the israeli people living in safety and

security and the palestinian people in a free state living in safety and security. but you can't do that when part of the potential palestinian state is being dominated by a terrorist organisation, it's absorbs . organisation, it's absorbs. >> people have begun assembling in london to march against anti—semitism. it comes amid concern about rising tensions across the uk sparked by the conflict in gaza in english defence league founder tommy robinson has been escorted away from the march by police. he was seen arguing with officers for around ten minutes outside soho coffee shop opposite the royal courts of justice . both courts of justice. both ministers and the met police have stressed the need for uk jewish communities to feel safe on the streets . former england on the streets. former england manager terry venables has died at of 80. family at the age of 80. his family released a statement saying, we are totally devastated by the released a statement saying, we are tofally devastated by the released a statement saying, we are tof ay devastated by the released a statement saying, we are tof a wonderfulzd by the released a statement saying, we are tof a wonderful husband and loss of a wonderful husband and

father away father who passed away peacefully yesterday after a long venables was in long illness. venables was in charge men's charge of the england's men's national between 1994 and national team between 1994 and 1996. lineker 1996. footballer gary lineker paid was paid tribute, saying he was much, than much, much more than just a great vibrant , great manager. he was vibrant, he charming, was witty. he was charming, he was witty. he . this is gb news he was a friend. this is gb news news across the uk on tv, in your car, on your digital radio, and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news. now it's back . back to dawn. >> thank you very much. sophia right . let's get straight into right. let's get straight into today's story, shall we? thousands gather in london this afternoon for a march against the surging levels of anti—semitism across the country. organisers of the march say they no longer feel welcome in the capital, especially with the number of pro—palestine protests . joining me now is gb protests. joining me now is gb news political correspondent who is on the march for us today. katherine forster. hello, catherine. good afternoon. thank you for joining catherine. good afternoon. thank you forjoining us again. catherine, how's it going there? and it looks very peaceful and

very calm . very calm. >> yeah , indeed. hello, dawn. >> yeah, indeed. hello, dawn. a little bit of rain, but nothing that would prevent many, many thousands of people, jews , jews thousands of people, jews, jews and non—jews from coming out today on this march, we've had successive pro—palestinian marches, haven't we? on saturday, since october 7. today is something rather different. the jewish community in the united and supporters united kingdom and supporters of all to this okay, we out to say this is not okay, we know police there's know that the police say there's been a huge rise in anti—semitic attacks united attacks in the united kingdom school walls with red school walls daubed with red paint. to sort school walls daubed with red pa hide to sort school walls daubed with red pa hide signs to sort school walls daubed with red pa hide signs that to sort school walls daubed with red pa hide signs that they to sort school walls daubed with red pa hide signs that they are art of hide signs that they are jewish. the terrorist jewish. since the terrorist atrocities on october the 7th. so a sombre atmosphere bring them everybody's them home is what everybody's saying here. of course, referring to the couple of hundred a hundred hostages we know a few dozen released, dozen have been released, but a couple still being couple of hundred still being held. are held. who knows how many are alive, dead? alive, how many are dead? a surprise too, former surprise visit, too, from former prime boris johnson , prime minister boris johnson, who unexpectedly . he who appeared unexpectedly. he obviously is coming to news obviously is coming to gb news now. he was now. so i asked him why he was here. look what now. so i asked him why he was he|had look what now. so i asked him why he was he|had to look what now. so i asked him why he was he|had to say. look what he had to say. >> it's very a way that >> it's very sad in a way that this take this this march has to take place it place at all, but i'm afraid it does, what we're all does, because what we're all doing thing doing here and the only thing we're showing we're really doing is showing solidarity people. solidarity with jewish people. >> because ? >> and that's necessary because? >> and that's necessary because? >> october

>> because since october the 7th, afraid been 7th, i'm afraid there's been a very peculiar response in many parts of the world, including i'm london and i'm sad to say, in london and what we've seen is a i'm afraid that re—emergence that the re—emergence of anti—semitism and failure anti—semitism and a failure to focus appalling focus on on the appalling terrorist of hamas and what terrorist acts of hamas and what they on october 7. they did on october 7. >> and i think need >> and i just think we need to remember know, whatever the >> and, you know, whatever the whatever and wrongs >> and, you know, whatever the whateveisrael and wrongs >> and, you know, whatever the whateveisrael has and wrongs >> and, you know, whatever the whateveisrael has and or'ongs of what israel has done or is doing, that the doing, i think that the anti—semitism that we've seen in some marches around some of these marches around western europe and further afield has really confirmed for me the absolute necessity, the human necessity for israel to exist. >> and that's basically why we're here. >> and in terms of international diplomacy, how hopeful are you that this current wave of this very old conflict , it can be very old conflict, it can be resolved ? resolved? >> i hope it can. and it remains the position of the uk government. as you know, my position certainly that there must be a two stage solution. but what we're what we're trying to address here, what i'm trying to address here, what i'm trying to address here is a is a is a is a separate thing in a way,

which is the re—emergence, the recrudescence of anti—semitism . recrudescence of anti—semitism. and, you know, it's kind of like an old an old spore of a virus that lurks beneath the floorboards of . western floorboards of. western civilisation, civilisation of our collective memory. and it comes out from time to time . comes out from time to time. it's, it's perennial. it won't go away and it flares up again . go away and it flares up again. we're seeing a flare up and we need to call it out. >> so former prime minister bons >> so former prime minister boris johnson speaking to me then obviously very well received here along with his wife, carrie . the same cannot be wife, carrie. the same cannot be said, however , for far right said, however, for far right tommy robinson, who turned up here and was it was made very clear to him that he was not welcome . he was bundled away by welcome. he was bundled away by police, not entirely clear whether he was arrested or not. he's been tweeting very crossly about freedom of speech, but

certainly a sombre mood, a real show of support. and against hate before more, it's too late . hate before more, it's too late. there the organisers expecting about up to 40,000 people and 1000 police per trolling this march today . march today. >> catherine, thank you very much. that's katherine forster a gb news political correspondent there live on the anti—semitism march in central london today and getting a exclusive chat with boris johnson, who is speaking quite emotionally about what is happening and why jewish people just don't feel safe on the streets of our capital city, which is incredibly sobering, isn't it? really benjamin, i'm coming to you first on this. what did you make of what you heard boris say, that and the general peacefulness of the march ? march? >> well, on this, of course, he's he's sadly absolutely right that this is , as you know, one that this is, as you know, one of the oldest racism that seems to be one of the most accepted .

to be one of the most accepted. you know, people look the other way when all sorts of anti—semitic slurs have been said in marches that have hundreds of thousands of people on them. and the truth is that , on them. and the truth is that, you know, you don't start with the kind of things that adolf hitler did in the second world war. you start with casual remarks and assumptions and conclusions about the jewish people. and if you don't stop it at this point, then it does get much worse. and there are, sadly, people who sadly, many of these people who are profoundly anti—semitic, who feel free to profess that on the streets of london. and if you don't stand up to that , then don't stand up to that, then it's only going to get worse. you know, it has been so depressing to see these slurs in the past few weeks. and of course, many of those people would never say those things. but you look, you had tommy robinson there today , right, who robinson there today, right, who i consider to far right i consider to be a far right racist. that racist. and the people that organised that march organised him were on that march said part it. we said he's not a part of it. we don't involved don't want a racist involved in our campaign. don't want a racist involved in our campaign . well, i tell you our campaign. well, i tell you what, why couldn't the

pro—palestinian people and their marches take the same line when you have someone as racist? as far as i'm concerned, as tommy robinson is, he was out. but yet when you had the racists turning up at the other marches for the last six weeks, who were attacking and being racist towards jewish people , they towards jewish people, they looked the other way. and i think those people that stand with palestine who didn't say anything should be anything about that should be ashamed of themselves. that's why we have protests. why we have today's protests. >> good point. and >> incredibly good point. and not on not just the people that are on the , the actual police the march, the actual police themselves. why do you think benedict, that being anti—semitic is almost an acceptable form of racism ? acceptable form of racism? >> because it is so multifaceted. it's not simply a question of ethnicity . it's not question of ethnicity. it's not even simply a question of religion. you can be sort of one of who that religion. you can be sort of one of see who that religion. you can be sort of one of see no who that religion. you can be sort of one of see no race nho that religion. you can be sort of one of see no race and that religion. you can be sort of one of see no race and havethat religion. you can be sort of one of see no race and have no: they see no race and have no sort religious views. but sort of religious views. but based youn sort of religious views. but based your, for example, based then on your, for example, your you your economic perspectives, you can it is just can be anti—semitic. it is just a multi purpose prejudice that you can shoehorn into almost any aspect of civilisation in. we don't really have the time to go into that is, but that is into why that is, but that is

why it is sort of so pernicious andifs why it is sort of so pernicious and it's why important and it's why it's so important that tolerance that zero tolerance is the approach . i back to what approach. and i go back to what i earlier, that i said earlier, which is that the broadly the jewish community broadly across of across actually, i'd say most of western europe and the united western europe and in the united states other states as well, and other western countries, the jewish communities tend to be the best integrated and have be integrated and they have to be the because if the best integrated because if they're not, then they are the ones that bear the brunt straight away. but as we're seeing now, that isn't seeing right now, that isn't enough people. that enough for some people. that is never never never enough. it will never be enough. never enough. it will never be enough . but cannot to enough. but you cannot claim to have any kind of a multicultural society if you have one community that has so much community that has done so much to work its way into the fabric of society, to a credit to of society, to be a credit to that and and it that society and that and it still gets targeted for this. and we do need to keep on saying it. are on the it. these people are on the marches who are feeling unsafe. they not israelis, many of they are not israelis, many of them. to as them. i'd even go as to say as far actually far as most of them actually have rather interesting views when things like when it comes to things like zionism, comes to the zionism, when it comes to the attitude of the israeli government, is not government, it is not universally popular amongst all jews. and yet people seem to think fine think that it is perfectly fine to their prejudice these to vent their prejudice on these people have done nothing to people who have done nothing to them, who nothing to do them, who want nothing to do

with people still look at with them. people still look at them and go, it's the jews. and that ultimately a that that ultimately is a sign that in war in a post—second world war country, base our entire country, we base our entire modern the modern identity on the holocaust. world war, holocaust. the second world war, never still never again. and yet we still haven't learned. >> have to move on. but. but >> we have to move on. but. but the bottom line is no faith , the bottom line is no faith, faith, religion , race or faith, religion, race or sexuality should be frightened on the streets of tell me another group where if they were slaughtered, they would then be on the receiving end of the hate afterwards. >> i think that tells you all you to you need to know. >> point. thank you very >> good point. thank you very much, gentlemen. now, much, gentlemen. right now, former english footballer and manager terry venables has passed aged venables passed away aged 80. mr venables played for various clubs, including chelsea , tottenham and including chelsea, tottenham and queens park rangers during the 1960s and 70, is joining me now is sports journalist harry harris. harry good afternoon. thank you very much for joining us this afternoon . sad news. us this afternoon. sad news. we've lost one of the biggest personalities of football today . personalities of football today. it is a big loss, isn't it? well

it is a big loss, isn't it? well i would describe terry venables as a genius, as a coach and a manager, and what he did for the country in euro 96. >> he uplifted everybody, euro 96 was a threshold for the game. it became more celebrity than just more purely working class , just more purely working class, more corporate. >> but , you know, everyone who's >> but, you know, everyone who's ever come into contact with terry venables would describe him as, you know, a close friend, someone who they could trust and enduring friend , great trust and enduring friend, great character , great crooner, loved character, great crooner, loved it, loved a song . and his it, loved a song. and his scribes, west club in kensington . everyone who got to know him as adored him as a personality and learned so much from him as and learned so much from him as a coach. >> how are you actually wrote a book about terry, so you must have known him quite well. all . have known him quite well. all. hello . harry harry, can you hear hello. harry harry, can you hear me? harry i think we've lost him

. oh, that's a shame. we're going to try and get him back now. harry actually wrote a very good book on terry venables , good book on terry venables, which i believe is still out there. so please. yeah, there you can see that's the cover title as his nickname was great loss. he was 80 and he died after a long illness. and obviously thoughts with his family. watching family. you're watching and listening gb news sunday listening to gb news sunday with me. neesom . lots more me. dawn neesom. lots more coming on today's show. 17 coming up on today's show. 17 hostages held by hamas were freed last night after hours of delayed raised fears that the truce deal with israel would fall through . so this is the fall through. so this is the second release of hostages from hamas captivity totalling 26. in exchange for 78 palestinian prisoners . all of that and much prisoners. all of that and much more to come. you're watching and listening to gb news, britain's news channel

want to keep you entertained. >> the camilla tominey show sunday mornings from 930 on . sunday mornings from 930 on. gb news. >> welcome back to gb news sunday with me. dawn neesom on your tv , online and on digital your tv, online and on digital radio. now 17 hostages held by hamas were freed last night after hours of delay raised fears that the truce deal with israel could fall through. those released include nine year old irish israeli girl emily hand. there she is. but now after seven weeks in captivity , emily seven weeks in captivity, emily has been reunited with her dad, who relentlessly campaigned for her release after learning she was still alive. other survivors

of the massacre at the kibbutz be'eri were among 13 israeli and four thai hostages who arrived back in israel in red cross vehicles last night. this is the second release of hostages from hamas captivity totalling 26 in exchange for 78 palestinian prisoners . joining me now is prisoners. joining me now is defence editor at the telegraph, con coughlin , to talk about what con coughlin, to talk about what we have witnessed and how hopeful we should be for the rest of the hostages going forward . con, thank you very forward. con, thank you very much for joining forward. con, thank you very much forjoining me. it seems to have gone quite smoothly so far. very, very heartwarming scenes in particular, little emily. there how do you feel this is being handled at the moment? >> well, good afternoon . >> well, good afternoon. >> well, good afternoon. >> i mean, yes, it is. >>— >> i mean, yes, it is. >> it is proceeding along. >> it is proceeding along. >> the deal is in place. the hostages are coming out . hostages are coming out. palestinians are being released. so there is some momentum growing here. >> i would say that there was

quite a disturbing hitch last night when it transpired that children were being released but not their mothers. >> i mean, this is quite heartbreaking that you can release children and still keep their mothers in captivity . so their mothers in captivity. so it just shows you what the world is up against in dealing with hamas. >> you know , it is a terrorist >> you know, it is a terrorist organisation and they they're clearly playing this hostage game to try and get an advantage over israel, both in terms of regrouping militarily and also putting pressure on israel to agree to a ceasefire because there are many, many more hostages still in hamas captivity . captivity. >> so, you know, as you say there, obviously the scenes of these children being released is uplifting and everybody wants to see these these these kids reunited, their families. but you know, this is a very, very dangerous situation . and i dangerous situation. and i think, you know, we need to be

very sceptical about hamas's motives in facilitating these hostage releases . at the moment. hostage releases. at the moment. >> con and obviously, if they do release, you know, all the hostages, that is their trump card gone, isn't it? so it doesn't bode well for those that that are left in captivity . yeah that are left in captivity. yeah >> and if you look back, i mean hamas and their iranian backers as a past masters of taking people hostage and holding them for their own political ends, i mean, there was an israeli soldier who was held for many years in captivity and he was finally released in 2011. in return for nearly a thousand palestinian prisoners, one of whom is the mastermind of the attacks on october the 7th. so, you know , hostage taking is part you know, hostage taking is part and parcel of hamas's dna. you know, hostage taking is part and parcel of hamas's dna . and and parcel of hamas's dna. and yes, i think some of the certainly the male hostages could be there for some time . it could be there for some time. it all depends on how the whole

conflict plays out in the coming weeks, because both israel and hamas have said they want to return to hostilities as soon as this this pause is over. so you know, this crisis is far from over at the moment . over at the moment. >> but there are small signs of hope. hopefully that , you know, hope. hopefully that, you know, that we can at least have a pause. that we can at least have a pause . and i know this has been pause. and i know this has been negotiated by qatar and america , negotiated by qatar and america, but there is some signs of hope here, isn't there ? here, isn't there? >> well, there is . there has. >> well, there is. there has. i mean, we all want this crisis to be resolved, but , mean, we all want this crisis to be resolved, but, you mean, we all want this crisis to be resolved, but , you know, be resolved, but, you know, hamas is a big problem. it's a big problem for israel's security . it's linked to a whole security. it's linked to a whole internal regional network of islamist terrorist groups. so, you know, why , while we all want you know, why, while we all want this to be over, we want the hostages released . we want peace hostages released. we want peace and stability . you know, when and stability. you know, when you've got a dedicated terrorist group like hamas determined to destroy the state of israel,

apart from , you know, other apart from, you know, other objectives , then, you know, you objectives, then, you know, you we cannot be seduced into thinking the crisis is over. but as you said, it is very heartwarming to see these images of these children being reunited with their families , but they with their families, but they should never have been taken in the first place. i mean, that's that's what it comes down to. what on earth are they doing in captivity as against international law to take women and anybody and children and anybody else hostage ? you this this hostage? so, you know, this this is a very a very dangerous problem that everybody has got to face, not just israel there. >> thank you very much for joining us this afternoon, talking about the ongoing hostage situation and thankfully, very heartwarming scenes there of little emily hand hand who celebrated her ninth birthday in the hamas tunnels, now reunited with her dad . right now, let's see what dad. right now, let's see what my panel maker, this one, i am still joined by benjamin butterworth and benedict spence. benedict i mean, the scenes are

incredibly heartwarming and thomas hand has been incredibly emotional talking about his daughter . emotional talking about his daughter. but i think as cohen was saying there, it's a long way from what for all of us hope it is. >> and we have to remember, actually, that the hostages are effectively currency for hamas. there's a finite number of them, and they more valuable and they are far more valuable to hamas whilst they're in hamas hands are the hands hands than they are in the hands of whichever of the israelis or whichever government that they government it is that they belong is why it was, i belong to. that is why it was, i think, in hamas's interest to have exchange and have this initial exchange and actually there actually it was key that there was thai who were was the thai hostages who were released the 13 thai released first, the 13 thai hostages, course, hostages, because, of course, thailand sort thailand has no real sort of role the thai role to play in this. the thai government straight to the government went straight to the iranians. the iranians leant on hamas. and was much hamas. and this was very much kind look, will lose a kind of a look, you will lose a lot of international goodwill if you're seen to be targeting people are not our people who are not our ideological foes on this. you you good on this. you need to make good on this. and of course, hamas is more than well, these than happy to say, well, these people worth anything people aren't worth anything to us so us beyond a pr exercise. so happy you go. it's happy days off. you go. it's going to be a lot more difficult, though, to extract

prisoners are frankly more prisoners who are frankly more valuable. and this is the thing we're talking now about a ceasefire will ceasefire in which hamas will try itself. but try to reorganise itself. but there's only a finite amount of things do in terms things that it can do in terms of that it has. israel of the space that it has. israel knows all of their positions. they war quite they are losing this war quite badly, worse people badly, a lot worse than people imagined to be. imagined it was going to be. therefore, the will, the desire to keep these people as human shields as currency, to try to stave off an israeli assault is going to very strong. and going to be very strong. and i suspect the next round going suspect the next round is going to difficult to get to be more difficult to get people released. i suspect benjamin, it's interesting what cohen they are cohen said there, that they are releasing but keeping releasing children, but keeping the moms still in captivity . the moms still in captivity. >> and i believe there's still a baby be a little baby under a year old, still in captivity . it year old, still in captivity. it does make you wonder why some are being released but not others. why keep the baby? >> it doesn't make me wonder, because these people are monsters. you know , it is an monsters. you know, it is an atrocity. it is a war crime that they stole little girls to use as currency to try and get their own back on israel , to attack own back on israel, to attack the jewish people in the country

of israel and the fact that this is not some kind of accident, this is not some kind of getting your own back against their aggressive neighbour as some naive people would like to say. this is an intentional and well rehearsed strategy. hamas is funded by the revolutionary guard in iran. we know as brits they did it to nazanin zaghari—ratcliffe. of course, zaghari —ratcliffe. of course, thatis zaghari—ratcliffe. of course, that is the stated intentional policy of iran. who is behind hamas ? and they will do this hamas? and they will do this again. and again because it is a way to leverage power over israel, over their foes . and so israel, over their foes. and so the problem is that when people say there should be a ceasefire well, any reasonable person wants the fighting and the death to end . those people that want to end. those people that want a ceasefire should be saying to hamas, why are you stealing children and their mothers and israelis ? and if you want israelis? and if you want a ceasefire, you say to gaza and the people of hamas , give them the people of hamas, give them back because that would end the war. these are the monsters in

it. you know, the people that israel took and put in prison were accused of terrorism that is quite different and quite different quality of life to being a hostage in gaza . and i being a hostage in gaza. and i feel like that people out here are trying to say that it's for tat. it's really not. these are monsters versus a democratic society . society. >> thank you. you're watching and listening to gb news sunday with me. dawn neesom . lots more with me. dawn neesom. lots more coming up on today's show. the snp mp who defected to the tories has spoken exclusively to gb news only on why she made the decision. and shockingly , the decision. and shockingly, the abuse she has received since defecting. but first, here's the news with sofia . it's 230. news with sofia. it's 230. >> i'm sophia wenzler in the newsroom. reports say the israel government has received the list of hostages who are expected to be released today. an official told the times of israel that

prime minister benjamin netanyahu's office are notifying the families as it is the third day of a four day truce, which qatar said today it hopes will be extended further with the release of more hostages . release of more hostages. meanwhile, smoke can be seen at the gaza border on the third day of the ceasefire. hamas confirmed that a total of 340 trucks loaded with aid supplies has entered gaza through the rafah crossing since the truce began. rafah crossing since the truce began . nine days old irish began. nine days old irish israeli girl emily hand has been reunited with her father following her release by hamas. she is among 17 hostages released by the terrorist group after 50 days in captivity . 13 after 50 days in captivity. 13 israelis, six women and seven children, along with four thai nationals, were transported out of gaza through the rafah border crossing. the idf says the released hostages are now in israel and are reuniting with family while being medically assessed . boris johnson has told assessed. boris johnson has told gb news anti—semitism is like a virus which lurks beneath the

floorboards of western civilisation. the former prime minister is attending a march in central london, standing against anti—jewish racism. it comes amid concern about rising tensions across the uk, sparked by the conflict in gaza . former by the conflict in gaza. former england manager terry venables has died at the age of 80. his family released a statement saying, we are totally devastated by the loss of a wonderful husband and father who passed away peacefully yesterday after a long illness. venables was in charge of the men's england team from 1994 until 1996 . and you can get more on 1996. and you can get more on all those stories by visiting our website at gbnews.com . our website at gbnews.com. >> thank you, sophia. now jaws dropped to the ground when a member of parliament, lisa cameron, announced she was switching from the snp to the conservatives. it was an

exclusive interview with gloria de piero and she speaks about what made her take that decision. life in politics and how faith plays an important role in her part. let's have a listen . listen. >> dr. lisa cameron mp, you're elected in 2015 as a scottish nationalist mp. >> you're re—elected in 2017 for the snp and in 2019 last month you left the snp and you now sit as a conservative mp the first time. that's ever happened. snp is a conservative. >> can you believe you're a tory mp? >> how did it happen ? >> how did it happen? >> how did it happen? >> yeah, i mean i think there were a number of both sort of push and pull factors. >> i would call them pull factors. >> definitely when i was struggling, the prime minister was very kind and reached out to me to find out how i was doing. >> and a lot of the cross—party work i've done in the past has meant that i've built very good connections and friendships with

people right across all of the parties, including conservative party. i mean, originally i come from a conservative home, so that in some sense is also very natural to me. so my parents, conservatives and in terms of the move from scottish national party , there were issues in party, there were issues in terms of disagreements i had with the way they handled an abuse case against a member of staff and i chose to support the victim in that case. in terms of , you know, reaching out to them and also raised that i felt we should have a victim led approach . and i really felt very approach. and i really felt very let down that that wasn't the case in terms of what happened. and that people had been directed to support the perpetrator in that case and that the victim eventually had to leave his job and didn't feel able to return. so, yeah , did able to return. so, yeah, did joining the labour party ever cross your mind ?

cross your mind? >> you know, as i say, i mean, i grew up in a conservative family background, so that appeared more natural to me. >> and i do think now that in scotland people are feeling possibly that nationalism has become a bit of a failed experiment. you know, the health service is really struggling education, transport. it's you know, there's been a ferry debacle in lots of different issues in terms of, well, debacle in lots of different issues in terms of, well , this issues in terms of, well, this week alone, we've had a scandal with an ipad. so a number of different scandals. >> so i think people are sort of reverting back to perhaps where they were before 2014, before they were before 2014, before the referendum and perhaps if your right of centre or left of centre, that polls are suggesting that people will move back in those directions . back in those directions. >> and therefore, i think, you know , in some ways my journey know, in some ways my journey is, is that been a first is, is one that has been a first in the parliament. but i think in the parliament. but i think in terms of the population of scotland, it's probably going to be the next

election. >> now you're married, you've got two daughters. when you de facto when you left the snp , you facto when you left the snp, you were subject to threats to abuse so severe that you had to move out of the family home and go into hiding. really as a family. why are you back in your home? yeah we i mean, we are back in our home now and parliament and local police and the parliament security services have been amazing. >> i have to say. we've had a number of risk management procedures put in place for myself, for my family and for staff. we've had to have our home sort of reinforced in a sense. they put a very strong steel door on my house, which i can hardly, you know, even imagine that i have this door. i mean, it's reinforced steel. it looks looks nice. but, you know, i've had to have new window panes put in that kind of thing.

so it's been really very shocking that politics in scotland could sink to those depths , to be honest and appear depths, to be honest and appear so divided and toxic. >> are you scared ? have you been >> are you scared? have you been scared during this period ? scared during this period? >> i think you're always scared as a mother for your children . as a mother for your children. and that's my main concern , is and that's my main concern, is my family and my children and my staff. and so the sort of key thing for me was making sure that we were all in a place of safety and that's why we moved for the period of time under advice and also the office in the constituency closed until the constituency closed until the appropriate risk management features could be put in place to protect my staff. so i'm very i think given everything i've been through , i'm quite been through, i'm quite resilient in the fact that i feel it's important that people who are basically bullies are not going to win in this scenario . and therefore , for scenario. and therefore, for those making threats are not going to stop me doing my job every day in the parliament and

in the constituency . in the constituency. >> what happened to you , what >> what happened to you, what you went through resolved , voted you went through resolved, voted in a deterioration in your mental health. you were having panic attacks in the latter days that you were still an snp mp. you were prescribed anti depressants. you had counselling of the panic attacks. gone are you still on antidepressants ? you still on antidepressants? are you still in need of counselling? >> i'm feeling much more confident in myself . i think confident in myself. i think that does take time to build back.i that does take time to build back. i mean, for a long time in the parliament i didn't speak as much as i used to speak as well. so i could see changes in my behaviour well . and obviously behaviour as well. and obviously i had have 12 months plus of i had to have 12 months plus of counselling from the welfare service, 12 months, 12 months, the last 12 months that you were in the snp, you were having counselling, you know, absolutely. so i went from being like psychologist like the first psychologist to be to the parliament to, be elected to the parliament to, you know , being effectively a you know, being effectively a patient that sense. and and, patient in that sense. and and, you know, mental health is

always something that i've raised awareness of and advocated . so i'm not, you know, advocated. so i'm not, you know, i'm embarrassed that. i'm not embarrassed by that. i think people they think if people need help, they need get help. and need to go and get help. and that's saw early that's why when i saw an early stage that wasn't coping and stage that i wasn't coping and that i felt very shunned and bullied by parliamentary colleagues, that it was vital for me to reach out and get that support at westminster, because otherwise can feel very much otherwise you can feel very much on your own and isolated . i i've on your own and isolated. i i've got a good staff group there who were very supportive, who knew what was happening. and obviously i went to my doctor, as you said , for medication . and as you said, for medication. and i think the final straw for me was really when my gp said to me, lisa, we can give you, you know, medication option and it will take an edge off the way you're feeling . but the issue is you're feeling. but the issue is your environment and you have your environment and you have you have to change your environment and that was really when sort of the penny dropped and i thought, i can't continue in this way. yeah. >> have you found it easy to make friends in the conservative party >> i think because of the work i

do, because i chair the disability group in the parliament and i have done since 2015 and i also did lucy's law through the parliament as well, which was very cross—party. i've always really had a lot of connections across party and those were the people who reached out to me and many actually after my move had contacted me again to say we could see what was happening. and, you know , we're glad you're and, you know, we're glad you're here and we're going to support you. and actually, i've had it's actually been very disconcerting to all of a sudden have so much support all at once. you know, really from the top down and from the prime minister's office. right across the whole office. right across the whole of the party. >> now, at the moment, at a number of my former colleagues in the labour party, i'm sure in other parties too, the threats and abuse that many of my friends are being subject to

because of what's happening in israel and gaza . protests israel and gaza. protests outside the constituency office like, you know, really quite offensive emails being sent in some cases protests outside mps house because it's very different circumstances, but because you have been through that sort of venom really , and that sort of venom really, and by the way, just for the record, there's nothing wrong with legitimate protest, but it's when people feel intimidated because do you have any because of it. do you have any advice for any who are advice for any mps who are coming under pressure now and feeling threatened and scared ? feeling threatened and scared? >> i think well, i mean, obviously the speaker's done a huge amount in terms of improving the services that are available for mps. so the welfare service has been excellent . but what i would say excellent. but what i would say is don't ever underestimate any risks . so if you feel that risks. so if you feel that something's untoward, if someone has sent a message, then please do get that checked out. because

where people are being threatening and intimidating to others, you just never know who is the person who's sending a message and who is the person who's going to act on that message. and the experts in parliament and the local police have certainly been fantastic in my case, in being very proactive in helping me to put in, you know, really quite robust risk management processes . know, really quite robust risk management processes. i know, really quite robust risk management processes . i don't management processes. i don't think you can ever entirely eliminate risk , which is the sad eliminate risk, which is the sad thing. and obviously we've lost very dear colleagues across party jo cox and sir david amess. but um, in learning from those traumas, i think that, you know, it's very, very important that we just contact, don't ever feel we're bother seeking services, contact them, make sure they are aware of every potential risk, and then they can make the assessment and tell you what you need to do to protect staff , to protect those protect staff, to protect those dear to you and your family. >> a final question. you are a

christian. your faith has led you to take certain positions on issues like abortion, where you have come into conflict when you were in the snp more broadly , were in the snp more broadly, can gordon politics god being faithful to god and to becoming a member of parliament, is there conflict there? >> i think it's really important that people from all different faith backgrounds have a place in parliament and that anyone who would suggest because you're from a particular faith, you don't have a place in parliament, i think that's wrong . i think many of these votes are votes of conscience, and it's important that we it's very important that we maintain but actually , maintain that. but actually, ali, you know, being a christian is very important to me. and it's what's grounded me throughout my life. and therefore , it's an integral part therefore, it's an integral part of myself and i don't think it would be authentic to give up those things to be an mp. so i

think that, you know, actually parliament should be inclusive of all race and religions and thatis of all race and religions and that is the kind of society that we want to see moving forward. dr. lisa cameron you've given hardly any interviews since you decided to make the change very grateful for you talking to me today. >> lisa cameron thank you . >> lisa cameron thank you. >> lisa cameron thank you. >> thank you so much . >> thank you so much. >> thank you so much. >> what a brilliant interview . >> what a brilliant interview. oh, that's gloria piera there. thank you very much for that. now, lots more coming up on today's mp s will debate today's show. mp s will debate two petitions relating to dangerous dogs that are currently five dog breeds banned in the uk after they each earned a reputation for being dangerous or aggressive . however, many or aggressive. however, many people oppose these specific bans and instead say the onus should be placed on the dog's owners. all of that and much more to come. i'm dawn neesom and you're watching and listening to gb news britain's news channel. don't go too far

you company right through until 7:00 this evening. gb news is the people's . channel the people's. channel >> welcome back to gb news sunday with me. dawn neesom on your tv online and on digital radio. now on monday, mps will debate two petitions relating to dangerous dogs. there are currently five dog breeds banned in the uk after they each earned a reputation for being dangerous or aggressive . however, many or aggressive. however, many people oppose these specific bans and instead say the onus should be placed on the dog's

owners . let's see what my panel owners. let's see what my panel make of this now. i mean, this is the debate is happening in parliament tomorrow . i'm going parliament tomorrow. i'm going to come to you first on this one, benedict. there's been lots and lots of talk about this particular breed of dog, which from what i understand, isn't actually a recognised breed as such. actually a recognised breed as such . so how you ban it, i'm not such. so how you ban it, i'm not entirely sure. >> well, this is part of the dangers trying a dangers around trying to ban a specific breed if a dog is specific breed is if a dog is being bred specifically for certain purposes, certain traits, fighting aggression, speed , that sort of thing. you speed, that sort of thing. you can get round a breed by breeding with things breeding them with other things and something and creating something new. that's this that's quite literally how this thing is a bit of thing turned up. it is a bit of a tricky situation though, because quite clearly this animal for animal is responsible for a disprot passionate number of attacks people . now is a attacks on people. now it is a very small percentage of the number of dogs that are thought to be country in general. to be in the country in general. so can't sit and say all so we can't sit here and say all of dogs are necessarily of these dogs are necessarily dangerous attack dangerous and will attack people. some within people. but clearly some within that, whether trained or people. but clearly some within that,is'hether trained or people. but clearly some within that,is sort er trained or people. but clearly some within that,is sort of trained or people. but clearly some within that,is sort of beside trained or people. but clearly some within that,is sort of beside the 1ed or not, is sort of beside the point. they are doing it. they not, is sort of beside the poi|disproportion oing it. they not, is sort of beside the poi|disproportion poorly they are disproportion poorly represented the stats . now,

represented in the stats. now, i am not very comfortable with the idea of an outright ban whereby a lot of dogs will end up being euthanized owners euthanized because their owners are unable to look are considered unable to look after or or the dog itself after them or or the dog itself is considered potentially to dangerous, although it hasn't actually yet. but actually done anything yet. but at the same time, you want to regulate sort of thing. regulate this sort of thing. there are going to have to be very measures, be it very stringent measures, be it muzzles public muzzles mandatory in all public spaces, be. i spaces, whatever it may be. i think need to move, think we do need to move, though, a direction where though, into a direction where the dangerous dogs the creation of dangerous dogs for status reasons , for for status reasons, for intimidation, for protection is moved away from because it is actually frankly , pretty actually frankly, pretty barbaric. benjamin it's been these dogs have been likened to carrying a loaded gun around with you, which is obviously illegal. >> but these dogs at the moment are legal. and they have i mean, you know, many children have actually killed by as actually been killed by them as well in this so. well in this country. so. >> yeah, which is which is obviously appalling. it obviously appalling. i find it this a man this one a difficult one. a man came me recently who had came up to me recently who had an he was a homeless an xl bully. he was a homeless man and i was never met man and he and i was never met one before. and it was an

absolutely beautiful dog and it was impeccably behaved. absolutely beautiful dog and it was irwas cably behaved. absolutely beautiful dog and it was irwas no ly behaved. absolutely beautiful dog and it was irwas no sign behaved. absolutely beautiful dog and it was irwas no sign of behaved. absolutely beautiful dog and it was irwas no sign of dangeri absolutely beautiful dog and it was irwas no sign of danger in there was no sign of danger in this one. and so you know that tells you that it is possible to train out of being like train these out of being like that. train these out of being like that . i think train these out of being like that. i think problem is the that. i think the problem is the owners rather than the dogs in many cases, these owners want them as status symbols. you know, if you were to go up to lots people xl bully and lots of people that xl bully and say, sorry, mate, you can't have that. but about a poodle? that. but what about a poodle? well, they'd be well, i don't think they'd be interested. because interested. right because they want they've want an aggressive dog. they've trained it to have those character to bring character traits to bring those out. of the out. and that's part of the problem. so if you ban this problem. and so if you ban this breed , then, yes, you can just breed, then, yes, you can just create breed , but you'll create another breed, but you'll also plenty around that also there's plenty around that can pretty nasty pieces of can be pretty nasty pieces of work and have people work. and if you have people largely men who want to train these to status symbol these to be status symbol aggression they will do so. 50. >> so. >> still, one of the things, if i may very quickly, is one of the with that, though, is the issues with that, though, is that that it could be that we say that it could be it's onus rather than the it's the onus rather than the dogs. one of the issues with this breed, we can't call it exactly a breed. one of the issues with a lot of these dogs issues with a lot of these dogs is around half the that

is around half of the ones that are be in the uk are are known to be in the uk are all descended same all descended from the same prize in the us, prize winning dog in the us, which alive. they are which is still alive. they are horrifically and that horrifically over bred and that is them do have the is why some of them do have the ability to snap because much is why some of them do have the abiliin to snap because much is why some of them do have the abiliin to s otheracause much is why some of them do have the abiliin to s other animalnuch is why some of them do have the abiliin to s other animal that is like in any other animal that is over bred, it breeds mental instability. and that ultimately over bred, it breeds mental in the ility. and that ultimately over bred, it breeds mental inthe key and that ultimately over bred, it breeds mental in the key thingthat ultimately over bred, it breeds mental in the key thing thatultimately over bred, it breeds mental in the key thing thatultincan't is the key thing that you can't necessarily tell. my fear is necessarily tell. but my fear is because necessarily necessarily tell. but my fear is bec.the necessarily necessarily tell. but my fear is bec.the attitude necessarily necessarily tell. but my fear is bec.the attitude necessokay, tell the attitude will be, okay, well, them massively well, all of them are massively over all of them over bred, ergo, all of them have to go. have got to go. >> okay. thank you very much. now, you have been now, lots of you have been getting in touch on the topics we've been discussing . and thank we've been discussing. and thank you for all the comments about my age and the doctor who story. really appreciate that. right meanwhile, on the xl bullies , meanwhile, on the xl bullies, davy says the xl bullies are a beautiful dog. if owned by responsible owners, we should make responsible ownership the law. that's easier said than done, unfortunately. although, isn't it? meanwhile, amanda says , i thought doctor who was great. i don't mind the trans representation at all as long as it doesn't dominate every episode. and on the hostage

situation, pauline says benjamin's comments on the israeli situation have just moved me to tears. he said exactly what i would have said, but far more eloquently. well, that's lovely. thank you. and finally , margaret says this has finally, margaret says this has been one of the best programmes i've watched the joy of two panellist notes. i have learned a great deal from both and dawn's chairmanship. thank you all. well, do we know do we know her? thank you so much . thanks. her? thank you so much. thanks. oh, that's really lovely . and my oh, that's really lovely. and my personal one was from a friend who said that i look like i'm working with a reinvention of village people because of the moustaches. but please do keep your views coming in. you have been watching and listening to gb news sunday with me. dawn neesom adam, thank you so much for joining me. really enjoyed forjoining me. really enjoyed your company. don't go your company. but don't go anywhere. nana is up next and she got a really cracking she has got a really cracking show. but before that, shall we have a look at what that weather's doing for you? thank you very much. see you soon. >> there. and >> hello there. and greg dewhurst and to your dewhurst. and welcome to your

latest gb news weather forecast. it's still rather cloudy , it's still rather cloudy, staying over the next staying unsettled over the next few days and temperatures starting to fall further as well. low pressure dominating the weather pattern at the moment, bringing some brisk winds to eastern areas. this low pressure moves away, allowing brief before then, brief respite before then, further systems move in further weather systems move in through the middle to end of next this evening time next week. this evening time a lots across the uk . lots of cloud across the uk. outbreaks of rain, 1 or 2 heavier bursts, possible temperatures dropping under clear skies across parts of scotland and patchy frost here, but showers feeding in from the north—east. elsewhere, lots of cloud outbreaks rain will cloud outbreaks of rain will keep temperatures up. so a milder night of late , milder night than of late, generally holding up between 5 and 9 celsius. but that means england , wales, northern ireland england, wales, northern ireland will cloudy outbreaks will start off cloudy outbreaks of this slipping slowly of rain. this slipping slowly south eastwards as we go through the , allowing skies the day, allowing brighter skies to parts of to follow across parts of northern ireland, western scotland, later western fringes of england and wales. the east staying breezy with showery outbreaks of rain which could be heavy at times, turning wintry over of

over the higher ground of scotland. temperatures scotland. and temperatures dropping as the day goes on. generally into single figures as the winds turn around to a northerly then into northerly direction, then into tuesday, it's a cold, frosty start. some fog patches first thing, and then a brighter, dner thing, and then a brighter, drier day. for many. there will be some wintry showers across the north and then the next few days, temperatures continue to fall overnight. frost fog fall overnight. frost and fog and the risk of some hill snow to

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