going to vote for at the they're going to vote for at the next election, which means it's all to play for in a year's time . and our labour celebrating victory too soon. i'll be giving my unapologetic verdict shortly. in the midst story, an explosive new book from harry and meghan's favourite journalist looks set to cause more chaos for king charles. we'll get reaction from fearless royal commentator lady colin campbell and doctor who goes first. >> take a listen . the pronoun true. >> yes, sorry. good point. are you he or she.7 well, >> yes, sorry. good point. are you he or she? well, they yeah, let's let's ask the aliens their pronouns. >> we'll get reaction from one of the stars of last night's 60th anniversary episode mode. and as an extraordinary gb news civil war breaks out between two of its biggest stars , richard of its biggest stars, richard tice and lee anderson is a vote for reform uk a vote for keir starmer ? i'll be asking one of starmer? i'll be asking one of the party's most high profile

supporters, ann widdecombe . tice supporters, ann widdecombe. tice versus anderson . whose side are versus anderson. whose side are you on? two hours of big opinion, big debate and big entertainment. my big opinion is on the way. it's not for the faint hearted. first, the news headunes faint hearted. first, the news headlines and our in armstrong . headlines and our in armstrong. >> yeah, very good evening to you, aaron armstrong here in the newsroom . i'm thousands of newsroom. i'm thousands of people lining the streets of cheered as a convoy carrying the third group of hostages released by arrived in israel. the by hamas arrived in israel. the international red cross says 17 captives made the journey from gaza. meanwhile, israel's prison service has confirmed the release of 39 palestinian prisoners in exchange , it's the prisoners in exchange, it's the third of a four day pause in fighting . in total. the two fighting. in total. the two sides have agreed to swap 50 israeli hostages . for 150 jailed israeli hostages. for 150 jailed palestinian. a four year old israeli american girl was amongst those released earlier

by the us president. joe biden has welcomed the news and says he hopes the truce will be extended . extended. >> so i'm hopeful this is not the end. it's going to continue to, but we don't know and but i get a sense that all the players in the region, even the neighbours who aren't, have been directly involved. now we're looking for a way to end this. so the hostages are all released and hamas is complete . we how and hamas is complete. we how can i say it, no longer in control of any portion of gaza ? control of any portion of gaza? >> well, meanwhile, israel's prime minister has told joe biden in a phone call that their operations in gaza will return with full force as soon as the truce is over . with full force as soon as the truce is over. benjamin netanyahu has also been visiting his soldiers inside northern gaza. he was given security updates and visited one of the tunnels, discovered by his troops. the prime minister said

this. we have three goals for this. we have three goals for this war. eliminate hamas, return all our abductees and ensure gaza does not become a threat to the state of israel again. a readout of the white house phone call with joe biden says that they'll continue working to secure the release of all hostages . a man's been all hostages. a man's been arrested on suspicion of a racially aggravated public order offence in london as tens of thousands marched against anti semitism. police say he was heard shouting at crowds towards the end of the day, it was the second of two arrests. earlier, the founder of the english defence league, tommy robinson , defence league, tommy robinson, was detained after he tried to join . it comes amid join the march. it comes amid concern over a steep rise in hate crime in the uk sparked by the conflict in gaza. former prime minister boris johnson, who was at the march , described who was at the march, described anti—semitism as a virus which lurks beneath the floorboard of western civilisation. we're all doing here, and the only thing we're really doing is showing

solidarity with jewish people. >> and that's necessary because since october the 7th, i'm afraid there's been a very peculiar response in many parts of the world, including i'm sad to say, in london at and what we've seen is a i'm afraid that the re—emergence of anti semitism and a failure to focus on the appalling terrorist acts of hamas . of hamas. >> meanwhile, tributes have been paid to the former england spurs and barcelona manager terry venables has died at the age of 80 after a long illness. terry venables managed england for two years, them to the years, leading them to the semi—finals euro he won semi—finals of euro 96. he won the fa cup as a player and a manager with tottenham led manager with tottenham and led barcelona to the spanish league title. his family released a statement earlier saying, we are totally devastated loss totally devastated by the loss of a wonderful husband. gary lineker, who under mr lineker, who played under mr venables, described him as vibrant, charming, witty and a friend . this is gb news. we're

friend. this is gb news. we're live across the uk on tv, digital radio and on your smart. speaker two now it's back to . speaker two now it's back to. mark my thanks to aaron armstrong who returns in an hours armstrong who returns in an hour's time. >> r.i.p terry venables ltl . a >> r.i.p terry venables ltl. a man that brought many happy memories to england fans and us spurs supporters. welcome to mark dolan tonight in my big opinion, 20% of the public haven't decided who they're going to vote for at the next election, which means it's all to play for in a year's time. are labour celebrating victory too soon? my verdict coming up in the big story, an explosive new book from harry and meghan's favourite journalist looks set to cause more chaos for king charles. we'll get reaction from fearless royal commentator lady colin campbell. more while doctor who goes woke . take listen. >> i promise i can help him get home and then you'll never see him again. you're assuming he as

a pronoun true ? yes. sorry. good a pronoun true? yes. sorry. good point. are you he or she ? well, point. are you he or she? well, they doctor who? >> doctor who woke . we'll get >> doctor who woke. we'll get reaction from one of the stars of last night's 60th anniversary episode . my mark meets guest is episode. my mark meets guest is the christian conservative us presidential hopeful dr. taylor marshall . could presidential hopeful dr. taylor marshall. could a presidential hopeful dr. taylor marshall . could a return to marshall. could a return to traditional family values save america ? but also as an america? but also as an extraordinary gb news civil war breaks out between two of its biggest stars. richard tice and lee anderson is a vote for reform uk a vote for keir starmer. i'll be asking one of the party's most high profile supporters, ann widdecombe. we've got tomorrow's front pages at 1030 with three top pundits who have been told what to say and who don't . follow the script and who don't. follow the script tonight . st giles' curci andy tonight. st giles' curci andy macdonald and neil parish plus the most important part of the show, your emails, they come straight to my laptop . mark at

straight to my laptop. mark at gb news dot com and this show has a golden rule. we don't do bonng has a golden rule. we don't do boring not on my watch. i just won't have it. a big two hours to come. we start out with my big opinion . here is a little big opinion. here is a little reported fact that will keep the cervix free. leader of the opposition keir starmer awake at night. the latest polling suggests that 20% of the public haven't decided who they're going to vote for at the next election . the don't knows that election. the don't knows that will likely decide who goes into number 10, which i think gives hope to our pint sized premier, rishi sunak , whose glass might rishi sunak, whose glass might be half full rather than half empty tonight, with millions of voters who are don't know us up and for grabs and available all there is so much that we do know inflation is coming down and growth is going in the right

direction whilst germany languishes in recession and britain has just leapfrogged france as number eight in the world for manufacturing , put world for manufacturing, put that in your pipe and smoke it. those who say we don't make stuff anymore or we've got a free trade deal with a bloc larger than the whole of the eu combined, the cpp , tpp, which combined, the cpp, tpp, which i thought was a cough mixture plus free trade with our brussels neighbours , the eu inward neighbours, the eu inward investment into britain is higher than italy , france or higher than italy, france or germany . and whilst the economy germany. and whilst the economy is still knackered , what do you is still knackered, what do you expect after shutting the country down for three years? what's becoming clear and what we do know is that britain is through the worst of it and we are on the up and whilst don't knows could decide the outcome of the next election , here's of the next election, here's more of what we do know. the alternative to the tories, who don't get me wrong, have been terrible is labour and they are worse. we do know that labour are horribly divided over israel , with scores of backbenchers

calling for a ceasefire, which is a clear message to the only democracy in the middle east to accept hamas terror and frankly to suck it up . we do know that to suck it up. we do know that five years of labour will mean five years of labour will mean five years of woke madness with a leader of the opposition who can't even define what a woman is , even though he's married to is, even though he's married to one. and still to this day, so—called gender critical mps, which in my book means gender factual, are being targeted by the hard left of the party. the brilliant labour mp rosie duffield, who has stood up bravely for women's hard won sex based rights and challenges . the based rights and challenges. the mad idea that you can change your biological sex is being targeted in a labour party , a targeted in a labour party, a deselection campaign, because she liked a joke on twitter . she liked a joke on twitter. starmer originally wanted self id in which you can unilaterally suddenly decide you're a lady and labour backbencher lloyd russell—moyle reacted in this troubling manner after a speech from tory mp miriam cates

defending women only spaces women in are far less powerful than men . than men. >> we can't defend ourselves . >> we can't defend ourselves. >> we can't defend ourselves. >> the idea of linking trans people with predators, frankly , people with predators, frankly, is disgusting and you should be ashamed . so no , calm down. ashamed. so no, calm down. >> moments later, russell moyle sat closer to cates and was accused of intimidation . the accused of intimidation. the labour mp later apologised for his tone. i'm sure he did. let me be clear . his tone. i'm sure he did. let me be clear. labour is the party of trans madness that we do know . what else do we know that if they reach power, labour will be under massive pressure from the pubuc under massive pressure from the public sector for a flood of investment . even though the investment. even though the country is broke, every department will be crying out for cash cash that we haven't got. so that's more spending and more borrowing. good luck tackling inflation and the national debt. with keir starmer in charge . we do know that in charge. we do know that labour will be under enormous pressure from the unions to give

their members a bumper pay rise. if you thought the strikes were bad under the tories, just imagine a labour government who are funded by the union barons. let me tell you , it's very hard let me tell you, it's very hard to to stand up the people who are paying wages. we do are paying your wages. we do know that labour are less likely to push back on woke madness in the classroom with children being told they're racist because of the colour of their skin. children being brainwashed into the idea that we have a shameful rather than glorious history and children being told that they may have been born in the wrong body , that they're the wrong body, that they're johnny rather than jane. we do know that labour are unlikely to stop the boats or tackle legal net migration given that they blocked the rwanda plan and other government measures . and other government measures. and many in the labour movement don't really believe in national borders. they love a bit of free movement why on movement, which is why many on the backbenches closer the backbenches crave a closer relationship with the eu and that's another thing. we do know

that's another thing. we do know that brexit is not safe in the hands. why? well because brexit is anathema to the north london chattering classes who are labour's ideological audience . labour's ideological audience. they hate the idea of british sovereignty. they're not patriotic and they particularly detest people. power so a week is a long time in politics. the election could be in may, but it could be as late as november, which is almost a year from now, which is almost a year from now, which means that it's all to play which means that it's all to play for . the only thing we do play for. the only thing we do know is the don't knows will decide it. mrs. starmer shouldn't be measuring up for curtains at number 10 just yet. the tories might pull themselves together . together. there's always time for a cheeky

wink. what's your view, mark at gb news.com? i'll get to your thoughts shortly. have i been too harsh on labour? let me know. i'd particularly be cunous know. i'd particularly be curious if you disagree, but let's hear from my pundits let's hear from my top pundits tonight are built to tonight who are built to disagree with me. i've got no friends there. broadcaster friends out there. broadcaster and comedian sajeela qureshi , and comedian sajeela qureshi, trade unionist and broadcaster andy mcdonald and former conservative mp and farmer neil parish. great to have all three of you with me . suella it's all of you with me. suella it's all to play for at the next election . i don't think the labour should be popping the champagne corks yet . corks just yet. >> no, i kind of agree with you on that. do i think that the tories have got a free reign? no, i think both of them have let down the citizens of this country . i'm disgusted with both country. i'm disgusted with both of them . i think i agree with of them. i think i agree with you that a lot of people don't know where to vote. um, i think i think it's self—evident. i'm sorry, but what the tories have done this the past since they've

beenin done this the past since they've been in power. oh, we were going to get brexit done, we're going to get brexit done, we're going to get brexit done, we're going to get brexit done and close our borders. well, we've never had more people and the borders are so day and night and 24 so open day and night and 24 hours the french are helping hours and the french are helping them the dinghies. so them to load the dinghies. so well that . but oh, you well done on that. but oh, you know, immigration that's still ongoing. it's never gone away. suella talk , the talk, big talk. suella talk, the talk, big talk. but, you know, she wasn't she was and actually was mean and nasty and actually talking about hate marches , she talking about hate marches, she was hateful. so it was pretty. nobody did anything. it's rubbish . so the tories haven't rubbish. so the tories haven't done anything . they've failed on done anything. they've failed on many accounts, but labour, i'm so . i do not think so disgusted. i do not think starmer is the man to take us forward . the fact that he was forward. the fact that he was happy to people if they want to vote for ceasefire, let them vote for ceasefire, let them vote for ceasefire that he was going to sack people. that disgusts me. he's got no backbone and i think actually i don't think either party are going to do us any good. and i think we're screwed. >> and the thing is, cecilia, would you identify as a labour

supporter? normally i would have been, but i mean, you know, i wasn't too fond of labour during the blair years. >> you forget that he was , he >> you forget that he was, he was labour really, don't you? sometimes but it's just i just think we've never been so poor in terms of politics and, and who is going to help citizens out there. we've got no one. we're screwed. and there's like too many career politicians is letting us down. i just don't think anyone actually gives a damn about ordinary people out there . there. >> oh, yeah? okay. well, look, andy mcdonald, the tories have been terrible. labour would be w0 i'se. woi'se. >> worse. >> i, i completely disagree. >> i, i completely disagree. >> i, i completely disagree. >> i think you know , if we look >> i think you know, if we look over the last 13 years or even the last two years, it's been a complete mess. you know, they don't take anything seriously. you know, you've had eight home secretaries in 13 years. they clearly don't take border security seriously. you've had nine business secretaries in 13 years. they clearly don't take industry seriously . you know, we

industry seriously. you know, we had three prime ministers in two years. clearly they don't take the leadership seriously . you the leadership seriously. you know, at we look at the know, we look at we look at the government. clearly not government. they're clearly not serious . but when you serious people. but when you look the labour you look at the labour party, you see actually see people who have actually served starmer served the country. keir starmer , of public , when he was director of public prosecutions, the prosecutions, he served the country you just don't country well. and you just don't see that in the conservatives. >> your thoughts >> neil parish, your thoughts about the 20% who are undecided? i would suggest that that's good news for rishi sunak. it's all to play for. >> there's voters out >> yes, mark, there's voters out there to play for. >> i mean, as i've said before , >> i mean, as i've said before, on on your programme, i think the tories are drinking at the last chance saloon because you've got to you've got to have to get most of that 20% to vote. tory if you're going to actually hold the general election . now, hold the general election. now, i with my friend i would disagree with my friend next door here because i think that rishi sunak, that you know, with rishi sunak, you do actually have prime you do actually have a prime minister out there who will make decisions now. yes lots and lots of problems. but if you think, you know, border controls are going to happen under labour,

it's not. but have the tories done done enough? no, they haven't. so i think, you know, people out there are really very undecided and i think they are really, you know, i mean, i'm being quite blunt with you. i think they are absolutely fed up with politics at the moment . and with politics at the moment. and so i think labour will win, but i think they'll win by default . i think they'll win by default. i think they'll win by default. i don't think they're particularly, know, particularly, you know, enamoured by keir starmer. if the tories manage to hold together and go into the general election reasonably united, then it may work for them. the problem is while they languish 20 points behind in the opinion polls, they will divide. that is the problem . and they've divided the problem. and they've divided lately. so they really have got to pull together once and for all if they've got any chance of winning the next general election . election. >> here's a question i've got for you watching on tv or listening on the radio, have you ever met a keir starmer fan? i think that could be indicative of what's going to happen in a year's time in our increasingly president system. wonder president system. i wonder

whether our shares in rishi sunak are a fraction too low and shares in starmer a touch too high. let me know your thoughts. margaret gbnews.com but coming up margaret gbnews.com but coming up next in the big story , an up next in the big story, an explosive book from harry explosive new book from harry and favourite and meghan's favourite journalist set to cause journalist looks set to cause more chaos for king charles. we'll get reaction from fearless royal commentator lady colin campbell . it's going to be campbell. it's going to be lively. see you

example. and they said, is your wife catholic ? and i said, no, wife catholic? and i said, no, she's . white well, wife catholic? and i said, no, she's . white well , look, wife catholic? and i said, no, she's . white well, look, a big she's. white well, look, a big reaction to my big opinion on market gb news uscom alan says, mark, all you're hearing now from labour is an excuse that it will take 5 to 10 years, putting things right. >> and they blame the conservatives for everything . conservatives for everything. their spokespersons have stopped giving answers to policies now except we don't know what we will inherit it, but it will be fully costed and alan is not convinced about that message and

peter says starmer has got a fan in the corner of his office. brilliant stuff. keep those emails coming. margaret gbnews.com. lots to get through, including a wonderful surprise at 10:00. but first, it's time for the big story and an explosive new book written by harry and meghan's favourite journalist looks set to cause more chaos and heartache for king charles. in widely reported excerpts from endgame by omid scobie , scobie alleges a rift scobie, scobie alleges a rift between king charles and his son prince william, with the prince of wales painted as an ambitious hothead, snapping at the heels of his father. meanwhile the book also alleges that king charles referred to prince harry as that fool and the princess kate is too terrified to do anything except grinning photo ops . pretty harsh stuff . how ops. pretty harsh stuff. how much is true? let's get reaction to this explosive new book from fearless royal commentator and author, lady colin campbell. lady colin, thank you so much

for joining us on mark dolan forjoining us on mark dolan tonight night following the release of the netflix documentary. this new book alleges the king, king charles referred to prince harry as that fool. do you think that account is credible ? is credible? >> oh, that's what i think is credible. i think it's one of the few credible things in in all all that the excerpts that is credible. and in fact , the is credible. and in fact, the king could have said an awful lot more than, you know, think that's calling harry a fool was very energised . but my very energised. but my understanding is that , in fact, understanding is that, in fact, he called him a lot worse . and he called him a lot worse. and let's face facts, he could have actually called him things like traitor, disloyal iscariot that so calling him a fool is very, very mild . very mild. >> and it looks like kate middleton gets given a hard time in this book. lady colin characterised as a royal upstart

only qualified to do grinning photo ops. what's going on here? it couldn't be jealousy from the meghan camp, could it? absolute >> absolutely not. why would meghan be jealous of catherine? just because catherine has the most fabulous figure and the most fabulous figure and the most gorgeous legs . and meghan most gorgeous legs. and meghan has two chickens, sticks on two chicken feet . chicken feet. >> lady colin campbell. can i interrupt you there? meghan markle lover or hater? she's one of the most beautiful women in the world. >> well, you must be blind or get your. you need new glasses. mark. sorry she's not one of the most beautiful women in the world. she's very. she's very presentable. after she's made up, but she's not any great beauty. first of all, her. her nose has been collapsing for years . and secondly, it's an years. and secondly, it's an artist ipsis. the mouth is a barracuda . the mouth, i mean, barracuda. the mouth, i mean, catherine is naturally good looking . meghan is an artificial

looking. meghan is an artificial construct, not only in terms of her personal beauty and her supposed ambitions, but also in terms of her physiognomy . i terms of her physiognomy. i mean, look, i think lady colin, you're entitled to your view. >> i disagree . i think she's >> i disagree. i think she's very, very stunning . i don't very, very stunning. i don't like what comes out of her mouth. a lot of the time. but she's she's very she's very glamorous. she's very elegant. course, you're elegant. but of course, you're entitled and entitled to your view and listen. but but in the end, do you that of you think that that sort of rival between catherine and meghan is ongoing thing? oh i think it's a rival. >> i think it's tremendous envy from meghan's point of view. meghan is jealous because she'd like to be number one and she's never going to be. she doesn't have as good a figure as catherine. she doesn't have as good looking a face as catherine. she doesn't wear clothes as well as catherine. she's not as popular as catherine. and she wants to be

number one and she's never going to be number one. but don't think catherine is jealous of meghan. why would she be? i mean, meghan is an instant difficult creature as far as catherine is concerned . catherine is concerned. >> okay. and lady colin, there were those revelations about the alleged or imagined skin colour of the sussexes unborn child , of the sussexes unborn child, the hunt for the royal racist continues. now. the book claims that there are two. what do we make of that? right. >> well , i make of that? right. >> well, i mean, let's face facts . amidst scabies is as facts. amidst scabies is as accurate and as truthful as meghan and harry or harry. and meghan and harry or harry. and meghan said , couldn't even agree meghan said, couldn't even agree on the oprah interview as to who said what when or where, because meghan had it when she was pregnant with archie and harry had it before they were married. before they were married that there was a concern from one

person on. they now have come up with two people. you know, your deaung with two people. you know, your dealing with people who have absolute no respect for the fact and simply just grab things that are going to be column inches . are going to be column inches. and it's all about public city andifs and it's all about public city and it's all about empty vessels making a lot of noise. now lady colin, the book alleges tension between prince william and his father , king charles, over how father, king charles, over how to run the monarchy. >> the claims are that william wants to rip up the rule book and do things, quote, the cambridge way in a challenge to his father . apparently, he's got his father. apparently, he's got his father. apparently, he's got his eye on the throne . do you his eye on the throne. do you identify any tension between father and . son father and. son >> i think the whole thing's ludicrous . the claim is ludicrous. the claim is ridiculous. the king and william have a very close good working relationship and personal relationship and personal relationship . they didn't always relationship. they didn't always have such a good personal

relationship, but they certainly do now . and as we have seen with do now. and as we have seen with recent activities, they divide up the issues. so william will do, say . 8 to 8 am. and the do, say. 8 to 8 am. and the king will do n to z. do, say. 8 to 8 am. and the king will do n to z . so it's king will do n to z. so it's inventions all all of this is trying to make out that there are problems which where there aren't. i mean let's remember scabies has said . that charles scabies has said. that charles is unpopular. the monarchy is unpopular. 60 something percent of the people of this country have said they are in favour of a monarchy. is that unpopular ? a monarchy. is that unpopular? mean the whole thing is ludicrous. and also, let's not forget , scabies doesn't even forget, scabies doesn't even know are the difference between 1 and 2, because he says he is biracial , 1 and 2, because he says he is biracial, but he is half caucasian and half caucasian. so

. to 2 to 1 in 1 caucasian and half caucasian. so .to2to1in1in1,it'sit doesn't make you biracial. if it's identical. but he's playing the race card. he's inventing things. and may say if anybody who believes that scabies has been speaking to people at the palace who are close to william and catherine are absolute idiotic because no . body close idiotic because no. body close to william and catherine or indeed to the king or the queen will speak to scabies . okay. will speak to scabies. okay. >> now i understand, lady colin, i understand that you're referring to omid scobie, the author of this book scabies, in author of this book scabies, in a satiric article, you know, sort of impulse . but the bottom sort of impulse. but the bottom line is, you know, the bottom line, of course, is that omid scobie has written this book. it's going to sell a lot of copies. and we're talking about it. love him or hate him, this guy knows how to make headlines and he's been very successful. now for lady colin, there's zero

evidence that they've contributed to it in any way. but is this book helpful to the sussexes, do you think it's on its head? >> it will be helpful to them in that it keeps them topical and in fact, this the sussexes have contributed to it and i know who they've done it through and i'm not prepared to tell you i'm saving it for myself. >> do it. do it, lady. colin, i've only got a couple of seconds . don't want to in seconds. don't want to get in trouble with because i've trouble with greg because i've been all weekend. but been a good boy all weekend. but last not least, the book last but not least, the book suggests thinks his suggests that william thinks his brother harry has been brainwashed by an army of californian therapy ists. is he right . right. >> well, think that's a part of the problem . i don't think the problem. i don't think that's the whole problem . i that's the whole problem. i think william william is partly right, but harry's head has been turned, not only by therapists who are actually in responsible.

and i speak as someone who wrote a book on personality disorders and has had therapy myself because therapy, the result of therapy is to be accept that your fate and make the best of it. >> not think i need a bit of therapy tonight. yeah. lady colin campbell. always a thrill to have you on the show. never bonng to have you on the show. never boring and i look forward to your next book. brilliant bestselling author and royal commentator lady colin campbell comes up with tonight's top punst comes up with tonight's top pundits doctor who goes woke . pundits doctor who goes woke. >> you're assuming he has a pronoun . true? pronoun. true? >> yes. sorry good point. are you he or she . you he or she. >> well, that scene has ruffled feathers . it's broken the feathers. it's broken the internet. we'll get reaction from one of the stars of last night's 64th anniversary episode . that's next. doctor who? doctor who woke

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want him there . want him there. >> well, listen , a big reaction >> well, listen, a big reaction to my debate with the marvellous lady, colin campbell, royal commentator and author. this new bookis commentator and author. this new book is coming out on tuesday andifs book is coming out on tuesday and it's very disparaging about the king and about prince william. it's very kind about the sussexes. can't imagine the sussexes. i can't imagine why that would be. this from jackie . hi, mark. yes, you need jackie. hi, mark. yes, you need to change your glasses, ladies. she is completely right. as always , as versus kate. always, as meghan versus kate. apart from character and personality, contest personality, there's no contest that in the looks department. it's beautiful and elegant. kate hands down. look, i'll get to more of your emails very shortly , but, folks, doctor who celebrated its 60 year anniversary with a special episode last night starring former time lord david tennant. the show was very well received. winning rave reviews and achieving bumper ratings , achieving bumper ratings, although this particular moment in which an alien discusses their gender pronouns wasn't everyone cup of tea? take a

listen . listen. >> i promise i can help him get home and then you'll never see me again. >> you're assuming he as a pronoun . true? pronoun. true? >> yes. sorry good point. are you he or she? >> well, my chosen pronoun is the definite article . the definite article. >> i am always the me . >> i am always the me. >> i am always the me. >> wow. >> wow. >> well, joining me to discuss this, i'm delighted to welcome one of the stars of last night's program, actor jamie cho, who played colonel chan. jamie, massive. congratulations on the success of the show. first of all, tell me about your emotions when you got the gig joining this iconic program . this iconic program. >> yeah, it was it was . well, >> yeah, it was it was. well, thanks for having me. first of all. it was amazing . it was one all. it was amazing. it was one of those jobs, you know, you just do one audition. you forget about it, and then your agent calls you and they're like, oh, you've job. like, you've got the job. i was like, oh, fantastic. and then when you get script through, you see get the script through, you see like, in like, i'm in this scene, i'm in this in scene. this scene, i'm in this scene. and was amazing experience. >> yeah. listen, what about that scene? for the scene? gender pronouns for the alien. that's a bit much. has doctor who doctor woke .

doctor who gone? doctor woke. >> i don't think so. i think he's just having a bit of fun. i mean, it's just. it's tongue in cheek. wasn't it what he was saying. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> do you think. do you >> well, do you think. do you think it? do you think think that was it? do you think the in sort of the writers are in a way sort of mocking people be mocking people that would be offended it is it offended by that? is it is it a sort of a bit of satire, almost, maybe? >> i don't know. i mean, um , you >> i don't know. i mean, um, you know, obviously i wasn't involved in the writing process, but , you know, russell russell but, you know, russell russell t davies, who's the writer of the three specials, he's a really talented and maybe that's something close to his heart. and like everyone, they put it into their work and yeah, it's just just a bit fun, i think. just just a bit of fun, i think. sort tongue in cheek, definitely. >> well, listen, we're going to talk role in the talk about your role in the show, of that show, the history of that program second. let's show, the history of that progrimy second. let's show, the history of that progrimy pundits second. let's show, the history of that progrimy pundits into nd. let's show, the history of that progrimy pundits into this, et's show, the history of that progrimy pundits into this, if s bring my pundits into this, if we sir. curci parish we can, sir. curci neil parish and andy macdonald. it was a cracking episode, but suella the pronoun scene your reaction? were you triggered ? were you triggered? >> oh, my god, i need to go. i need to. i need. i need help. i need to. i need. i need help. i need a massage. i wasn't

need a massage. no, i wasn't triggered. i think it's kind of i i've actually stopped. with all due respect to your guests, that i've stopped watching doctor who since they brought in a woman. not because i'm a self—loathing feminist, just like like, other like i just, like, had other things have a life things to do, like, have a life and but i think it's and stuff. but i think it's quite right that they would have a kind reference or a trans kind of reference or a pronoun reference, because that's the zeitgeist that they're kind of like touching on. that's going to include on. and that's going to include younger i have younger people. so i don't have a with that per se, but a problem with that per se, but do aliens have pronouns ? that's do aliens have pronouns? that's an interesting one. would they be insulted? i don't think so . i be insulted? i don't think so. i mean, from what we've seen from roswell , all they don't seem to roswell, all they don't seem to have any gender at all because there's no , you know, no regions there's no, you know, no regions or no area, you know? no, no , i or no area, you know? no, no, i don't want to say the words, but you know, between their alien legs, they don't have anything . legs, they don't have anything. >> well, i'll tell you, sajeela, before i get to the others, you've dropped a bit of a bombshell there. are you suggesting that you didn't want doctor who to be a woman? well,

i. >> .- >> it .._ >> it wasn't em i. >> it wasn't that. it's just. i. >> it wasn't that. it'sjust. i >> it wasn't that. it's just. i kind of. i think i got to the end of. yeah i did. i did. i tell you what it is? i don't want things messed around with james right? i mean , he is james bond, right? i mean, he is a cad. he's. he's a git. you know, he's sexist . he's. he's. know, he's sexist. he's. he's. he's a misogynistic and that's who he is as his character. i don't want him having an overall . to be a nice gentleman. and by woman dinner first before we i don't want to see that because that's who he is. that's the genre and that's what you buy into. if you want to have a nice by series. doctor by make another series. doctor who. doctor who who. doctor who was doctor who and you he regenerated and so you know he regenerated into i mean i quite like the idea that he regenerated into a woman but i just didn't i just i didn't have any kind of zest to watch it after that. and not because i had anything against the it was a woman. the fact that it was a woman. i just thought, you know, just thought, well, you know, i've with this genre. >> now, neil, listen, the bottom line is jamie the at line is jamie and the team at doctor who very much won the argument. very well argument. it was a very well received massive received show with massive

ratings . ratings. >> yeah, i mean, i think the auen >> yeah, i mean, i think the alien is very cute. and i think the children love that. i mean, i think as has been said, i think it's interesting to know whether aliens have any genders at all. let alone trans gender. so it's an interesting one. so i suppose the sort of serious point is that will children watch that? and then decide that they want to change their sexuality or they are transgender ? i mean, i think transgender? i mean, i think probably unlikely. i mean, i must admit on this occasion , must admit on this occasion, mark, i'm not getting overly excited about it. i think it was a it was a good show, but i think , you know, we've just got think, you know, we've just got to be a little bit careful as we move forward. have we got to change everything? so there may be bit of scepticism in be a little bit of scepticism in me the reason of having it me for the reason of having it there first but there in the first place. but i think i'm fairly laid back about it and i think most people enjoyed i think like i said, enjoyed it. i think like i said, auens enjoyed it. i think like i said, aliens cute , kids enjoy it aliens are cute, kids enjoy it and . i think aliens are cute, kids enjoy it and. i think we can aliens are cute, kids enjoy it and . i think we can live with it and. i think we can live with it and. i think we can live with it an easy listen. >> it was a very successful last

night. it's been going for 60 years. is it the greatest science fiction series ever made ? >> 7- >> oh, i 7— >> oh, i don't 7 >> oh, i don't know. that's quite the statement to make . i'm quite the statement to make. i'm not sure i enjoyed doctor who when it was the matt smith era. you know, when you had amy pond and clara towards the end i thought that was that was the peak of it for me because that's the doctor that i grew up with. and capaldi , kind of like and peter capaldi, kind of like he was quite rogue with it and i enjoyed for a time. but, you enjoyed him for a time. but, you know, not the know, even if it's not the greatest science fiction series know, even if it's not the gr> jamie and think it was >> jamie and i think it was tongue in cheek. think it's tongue in cheek. i think it's got which is no bad got us talking, which is no bad thing. joined thing. you've joined the program, with year program, jamie, with a 60 year legacy. is that a big responsibility? was it nerve wracking on sets ? wracking on sets? >> it was, yeah. it really was. but everyone was really cool. like david tennant, catherine tate , they're super down to

tate, they're super down to earth welcoming. and in fact, the whole crew, everyone, russell and everyone was super cool and yeah , it was just an cool and yeah, it was just an amazing experience. do you think the show could manage and achieve another 60 years? >> jamie i don't see why not, right? >> i mean like the production value is getting better. the storylines are getting more fun. the acting's even crazier. so i don't see why not. >> listen, you were absolutely brilliant in the show last night. what's next for you ? night. what's next for you? >> um , i've been doing a lot of >> um, i've been doing a lot of writing, actually, so i've written a feature film which i want to direct, so i'm working on that at the moment. and yeah, and then just same old auditioning like any other actor. well unless they're mad, they will give you the part. >> jamie cho, what a treat to have you on the show. well done with last night's program. um, do out the iplayer. do check it out on the iplayer. it up there for good it will be up there for a good few come. cho, few weeks to come. jamie cho, who colonel in who played colonel chan in doctor reaction on doctor who. your reaction on mark gbnews.com. brilliant mark gb news.com. brilliant stuff. mark gbnews.com. brilliant stuff. look we've got a really busy hour and 20 minutes to come

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a few days ago i caught up with a few days ago i caught up with a top christian conservative presidential hopeful who hopes that traditional family values could save america . i'm now to could save america. i'm now to speak to renowned historical author, broadcaster and philosopher dr. taylor marshall. dr. taylor, privileged to have you on the channel, a broken economy, a divided society dodi america. what happened ? america. what happened? >> we've had a rough last couple of years here at and, you know, we had a good go with president trump was not perfect, but we had a lot of acceleration . i had a lot of acceleration. i think both on a spiritual level but on a political level as well . and, you know, we elected maybe we elected joe biden and the wheels have come off in the last couple of years and we're now, you know, wrapped up in two wars and a declining economy. and a difficult stock market.

and a difficult stock market. and i would say in america discuss judgement, whether you're a liberal or a conservative christian, a non—christian, there is a general discouragement in the united states of america and i don't know if we continue to go the way of decline and see things that have happened in certain european countries . rs certain european countries. rs or if we're able to , to lift out or if we're able to, to lift out of this nosedive , i guess we'll of this nosedive, i guess we'll wait and see in the next election cycle . election cycle. >> and what's happened to america is it a spiritual crisis or just america is it a spiritual crisis orjust an issue with policy ? orjust an issue with policy? >> it's absolutely a spiritual crisis . you you know, grace crisis. you you know, grace flows downstream. you know, all grace comes is all goodness comes from almighty god. and america has always had a religious sense to it. and that's been lost in particular over the last i mean, you could say 60 years, but in particular

the last 10 to 20 years. if you just look at the demographic fix, the polls , you see that fix, the polls, you see that belief in god has gone down. and, you know, you kind of see that in real demographics like the rate, divorce rate . the birth rate, divorce rate. you know, these indicators show that the american people are losing their fervour and, you know, american kind of america had more of a spiritual sense , i had more of a spiritual sense, i think even more than europe in the last 50 years. and it's difficult to see that. i chalk it up to a very aggressive media campaign, both in film . news campaign, both in film. news adverts rising commercial. it's becoming very strong and there's a strong anti—family bent that's that's growing in the united states of america . so, yeah, states of america. so, yeah, it's most definitely spiritual. and, you know, the work i'm in is, of course, political, but also trying to revive the idea of christ as king and there

there is nothing wrong with saying these should be our political convictions , our political convictions, our political convictions, our political beliefs , and we're political beliefs, and we're going to work together because batus don't know. you find them in the bible or they are part of natural law or this is historic christian political theory. i think there's nothing wrong with that. and i think christians have shied away from that too long. think, oh, well, long. they think, oh, well, we can't our convictions can't bring our our convictions and our faith into the public space. that's a vacuum space. that's created a vacuum vacuum. and vacuum has been vacuum. and that vacuum has been filled with radical secularism and agendas that are against the family and against the common good of our nation, united states of america. and, of course , that's the same course, that's the same experience in other western countries . countries. >> so the woke takeover of the west and the united states in particular, cancel culture, stifling political correctness , stifling political correctness, gender ideology, critical race theory, you name it, the whole bunch of contested and frankly,

bonkers ideas . you think this bonkers ideas. you think this has replaced christiana ? t yes , has replaced christiana? t yes, in particular in the united states in the last 10 to 5 years, the blm, the black lives matter, there's this increased racial tension. >> you know, when i was growing up, i think it was there was less racial tension in the 80s and 90s than there are now in the 2020s in the united states of america. i think the democratic party has fostered that. democratic party has fostered that . it's a form of marxism, that. it's a form of marxism, social marxism and putting classes against one another. maybe not economic classes, but ethnic classes and then also, you know , the lgbt agenda has you know, the lgbt agenda has really been pushed strongly in the last five years, really politically and in the media. and that is eroded a sense of family. you know, they said, oh, we just we just want to be married . you know, it's just married. you know, it's just private between us. but it's really pushed down.

really been been pushed down. the american people's throats. and although some are pushing back, if you look at the polls again, you just look at real facts . more and more americans facts. more and more americans are becoming not just tolerant, but acceptance of that radical agenda. but acceptance of that radical agenda . and that doesn't bode agenda. and that doesn't bode well for us. >> indeed, what is behind wokeism and what is the end game, do you think? what is the goal , the end game, do you think? what is the goal, the end game wokeism is ultimate atheism . ultimate atheism. >> wokeism is well, you could even say beyond atheism atheism. it's luciferian . it is. i will it's luciferian. it is. i will not serve . i will define reality not serve. i will define reality instead of seeing reality as it is in nature or as as god has defined reality . that's how defined reality. that's how that's how humans at least in christendom, have operated for close to 2000 years. and said, i will define my self, i will not serve. and so everything is for debate. so if you say, well , we

debate. so if you say, well, we can define marriage or the state can define marriage or the state can define marriage or the state can define marriage, that means the state can define anything. it can define personhood. it can define what is a man , what is a define what is a man, what is a woman , everything. and once we woman, everything. and once we allow the government to have that authority , we are we are that authority, we are we are giving them divine powers to redefine on what is reality. and that has to be taken back. that has to be lodged safely again, with the church and the church having her proper influence over over government because again, going back to the vacuum, there can be no vacuum. there has to be a definition of what is holy matrimony and a definition of what it is to be a man. and what it is to be a woman and what is a family. and that definition then was given to us at the very beginning of creation. there's a story there, adam and eve and the family and marriage and man and woman. it's all laid out

there. if we reject that, then ultimately it's up to some sort of demigod traffic experiment on what is matrimony, what is family, what is man, what is woman. if we don't have those categories and those substances defined in our minds, then we're going to lose the war. and i think in america, in a democracy , the so—called christians, you see this with jfk, you know, he said, well, my faith is not going to influence my policies. thatis going to influence my policies. that is sort of the 1950s, 1960s, understanding that we will allow there to be a neutrality in the public square. and we will privately have our own beliefs. what we started that in the 50s and the 60s. and then as soon as we got into the 90s in the 2000s, that vacuum began to be filled and radical all secularism and marxism has filled in that void . and so filled in that void. and so i think there are a lot of i mean, on your side of the sea and on

ours, there's a lot of great minds who are saying, now wait a second, this idea that christians pretend to be neutral and do not put their convictions into the public square, we will lose ten out of ten times if we do that. >> well, indeed, i want to ask you, if woke has won, is there any rowing back from this toxic ideology ? ideology? >> i think there is. there you know, we reached low points and sometimes , you know, you look at sometimes, you know, you look at something like the french revolution , which was so revolution, which was so thoroughgoing in all of french thinking life economics. and there was a recovery from that a little little rough, little bumpy . but i little little rough, little bumpy. but i think there can be, you know, death and sin always consume and eat themselves . consume and eat themselves. there are no friends in hell . there are no friends in hell. ultimately, everyone hates themselves and hates one another. so you know, the demonic cannot thrive forever. maybe this is the end and maybe that's that . that's that. >> what a fascinating debate .

>> what a fascinating debate. look, there are two sides to every story , aren't there? let's every story, aren't there? let's be honest. joe biden, he might be honest. joe biden, he might be a little bit doddery , but the be a little bit doddery, but the american economy is doing incredibly well. and many think that he could win another four years power. there's plenty years in power. there's plenty of support out there for the democrat . but listen, we'll be democrat. but listen, we'll be watching with great interest. and me you, will and let me tell you, you will have uninterrupted coverage of the elections year on gb the us elections next year on gb news after ten as an extraordinary gb news civil war breaks out between two of its biggest stars, richard tice and lee anderson is a for lee anderson is a vote for reform uk a vote for keir starmer? be asking ann starmer? i'll be asking ann widdecombe. plus a developing story from the jungle. nigel farage is team are not happy with itv. this is explosive stuff. this could cost itv millions. find out more

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kingdom and across the world. this is mark dolan tonight. now this is all happening, folks. this is not a drill. nigel farage has thrown down the gauntlet and wants to lead the jungle if he shows strong leadership and whips the campmates into shape . is this campmates into shape. is this the path to number 10? plus, you won't believe this story. nigel's lawyers have sent a furious letter to i'm a celebrity bosses. after showing his bare backside to millions of viewers, a decision which could cost the broadcaster a fortune in compensation . and to make in compensation. and to make matters worse, a top itv boss has been caught making obscene jokes about nigel at a private event. we'll get reaction to this exploding. i'm a celebrity a storm in the company of two of the show's former stars . more the show's former stars. more drama, this time at home as an extraordinary gb news civil war breaks out between two of its biggest stars. richard tice and lee anderson is a vote for

reform uk. a vote for keir starmer? i'll be asking one of the party's most high profile supporters, ann widdecombe . supporters, ann widdecombe. plus, tomorrow's newspaper front pages and live reaction in the studio from tonight's top punst. studio from tonight's top pundits . so a studio from tonight's top pundits. so a packed studio from tonight's top pundits . so a packed show, lots pundits. so a packed show, lots to get through. nigel's lawyers in touch with itv. they're not happy. it could cost itv a fortune. we're calling it bum gate. we got the details after the headlines with darren armstrong . xl bullies. armstrong. xl bullies. >> thanks, mark. it's very good evening to you, aaron armstrong here in the gb newsroom . here in the gb newsroom. thousands of people have cheered as a convoy carrying a third group hostages released by group of hostages released by hamas in israel. group of hostages released by hamas in israel . the hamas has arrived in israel. the israelis lined the streets as 17 captors made the journey from gaza. meanwhile, israel's prison service confirmed the release of 39 palestinian prisoners in exchange age. it's the third of

a four day pause in fighting. exchange age. it's the third of a four day pause infighting. in a four day pause in fighting. in total, the two sides have agreed total, the two sides have agreed to swap 50 israeli hostages for 150 jailed palestinians in a four year old israeli american girl was amongst those released earlier . the girl was amongst those released earlier. the us president, joe biden, has welcomed the news and says he hopes the truce will be extended . extended. >> so i'm hopeful this is not the end and it's going to continue, but we don't know and but i get a sense that it all the players in the region, even the players in the region, even the neighbours who aren't, have been directly involved. now we're looking for a way to end this. so the hostages are all released and hamas is completely . how can i say it no longer in control of any portion of gaza . control of any portion of gaza. >> meanwhile, israel's prime minister has told joe biden his forces will resume their campaign in gaza with full force once the temporary truce comes to an end . however, benjamin to an end. however, benjamin netanyahu said he would welcome

an extension to the humanitarian pauseif an extension to the humanitarian pause if it meant ten additional hostages would be released every day. as agreed under the original qatari brokered deal earlier in the day, mr netanyahu met troops inside northern gaza, where he reiterated israel's main goal of eliminating hamas , main goal of eliminating hamas, a. a man has been arrested on suspicion of a racially aggravated public order offence in london on as tens of thousands marched against anti—semitism . police say he was anti—semitism. police say he was heard shouting at crowds. towards the end of the day . it towards the end of the day. it was the second of two arrests. earlier, the founder of the engush earlier, the founder of the english defence league, tommy robinson , was pepper sprayed by robinson, was pepper sprayed by police as they arrested him after he tried to join the march. it comes amid concerns over a steep rise in hate crime in the uk sparked by the conflict in gaza. former prime minister boris johnson, who was at the march, described anti—semitism as a virus that we're all doing here, and the only thing we're really doing is

showing solidarity with jewish people. >> and that's necessary because since october 7, i'm afraid there's been a very peculiar response in many parts of the world, including i'm sad to say, in london at and what we've seen is a i'm afraid that the re—emergence of anti semitism and a failure to focus on the appalling terrorist acts of hamas and the former england spurs and barcelona manager terry venables has died at the age of 80 after a long illness . age of 80 after a long illness. >> he managed england for two years, leading them to the semi—finals of euro 96. venables who won the fa cup as a player and a manager with tottenham and led barcelona to the spanish league title. his family released a statement saying, we're devastated the we're totally devastated by the loss wonderful husband, loss of a wonderful husband, gary , who played under gary lineker, who played under venables, described him as vibrant, charming, witty and a friend . we are alive across the friend. we are alive across the uk, on tv, on digital radio. if

you want us on your smart speaken you want us on your smart speaker, it's simply play gb news now over to . mark news now over to. mark >> my thanks to aaron armstrong , >> my thanks to aaron armstrong, who returns in an hour's time. rip to the football legend terry venables says i'm a spurs fan. he did great stuff at the lane. he did great stuff at the lane. he was a great england manager. as well. did see that as well. did you see that footage him taking his cup of footage of him taking his cup of tea to the press conference? they make like they don't make him like that any welcome to mark dolan any more. welcome to mark dolan tonight an extraordinary gb tonight as an extraordinary gb news civil war breaks out between two of its biggest stars, richard tice and lee anderson is a vote for reform uk a vote for keir starmer . anderson is a vote for reform uk a vote for keir starmer. i'll be asking one of the party's most high profile supporters, ann widdecombe . plus, i'll be asking widdecombe. plus, i'll be asking ann whose team is she in? is it going to be anderson or is it tice the ultimate grudge match? plus, newspaper, plus, tomorrow's newspaper, front pages and live reaction in the studio from tonight's top pundits. plus, they'll be nominating their headline heroes and back page zeroes. a packed

hour to come. and those papers are on the way. but first, it's our i'm a celebrity verdict out tonight. nigel farage has thrown down the gauntlet and wants to lead the jungle. he's put an official bid to in take control official bid to in take control of the group if he shows strong leadership and whips the campmates into shape . is this campmates into shape. is this the path to number 10? meanwhile, nigel's lawyers have sent a furious letter to i'm a celebrity bosses. after showing his bare backside to millions of viewers whilst he was taking a shower, a decision which could cost the broadcaster a fortune in compensation . and to make in compensation. and to make matters worse , a top itv boss matters worse, a top itv boss has been caught making obscene jokes about nigel at a private event. so let's get reaction to this brewing. i'm a celebrity a storm in the company of two of the show's previous stars , a the show's previous stars, a former top royal correspondent at the bbc, jennie bond and radio one legend, broadcaster mike reid. jennie does nigel

have what it takes to lead the jungle? >> oh , probably. but don't think >> oh, probably. but don't think it's a very good idea because he's a bit too bossy for my liking. >> and i think he will get up everyone's noses actually in the end.so everyone's noses actually in the end. so thus far he's, he's behaved reasonably well, actually. i think he's been rather surprised by the fact he hasn't been voted in for more trials. he's made it very apparent that he's playing. >> he's playing the game. he's said, i'm on television. >> i don't know if he realised the cameras and the microphones were he wanted to do the were on that he wanted to do the trials gave him 25% trials because that gave him 25% more airtime . more airtime. >> it's all a strategy and a tactic and i don't think it goes down too well with the public. i don't know about the campmates yes. >> yes. i mean , mike reid, if >> yes. i mean, mike reid, if nigel shows the right qualities of leadership , if he does gain of leadership, if he does gain control of the camp, does that pave the way for number 10? it certainly brought his odds down, hasn't it, to about 20 to 1. >> i think it's been slashed by,

i think from 30 or 40 to one down to 20 to 1. so yeah, i think he's i think he's doing very, very well in there. i think he's being reasonable in the face of people being put in there to bait him. he's he's deau there to bait him. he's he's dealt with that very well. he's deau dealt with that very well. he's dealt with that very well. he's dealt with everything very well. he's been placid. he's been he's been reasoned . and so, yeah, i been reasoned. and so, yeah, i mean, i think he's done very well as radio laureate. i had to pen a few words about his bottom, of course, which is a small limerick. mark celebrite camper farage has created a media barrage. he's caused mass hysteria with his naked posterior , which is something he posterior, which is something he should camouflage , an absolute should camouflage, an absolute tv gold poet laureate . tv gold poet laureate. >> i mean, honestly, that was quite special indeed. mike i don't know whether you can be as poetic. mc jenny, can we talk about a rather furious letter, though, from nigel's lawyer to itv ? of course, the programme itv? of course, the programme

showed nigel in the nude to millions of viewers whilst he took a shower. do they have a case to answer, do you think? jenny no, i don't . jenny no, i don't. >> god, mike, when we were in the jungle, nobody got naked. i mean, probably katie price could have got naked and made absolutely millions there. and then she made millions afterwards. we showed afterwards. but we showed respect for one another. and i mean , come on, nigel, you're mean, come on, nigel, you're being totally naive. you go in the jungle, you know, there are cameras on you. 24 over seven, wherever you cameras on you. 24 over seven, wherever you are, cameras on you. 24 over seven, wherever you are, save cameras on you. 24 over seven, wherever you are, save just perhaps in the in the dunny itself , behind the canvas , the itself, behind the canvas, the hessian curtain . that's about hessian curtain. that's about the only place you can think there isn't isn't a camera . you there isn't isn't a camera. you know, if you want to get your kit off, be prepared for it to be shown on television. that's what i say. and don't make a fuss it. but got him fuss about it. but it's got him more what more publicity and that's what he's jenny, you >> well, jenny, are you suggesting his suggesting that nigel got his butt cheeks out in order to get coverage and to make headlines ? coverage and to make headlines? >> yes, am. i am. he wants >> yes, i am. i am. he wants coverage . coverage. >> oh, my goodness. what do you make of this bum gate conspiracy

that it was all planned by nigel mike reid ? mike reid? >> no, i think the bottom line really is that he's just do you know , i got i showed my bottom know, i got i showed my bottom jenny when i was in there and no one was interested. i really upset. >> okay. well, get it out now then. let's let's bump up the show's ratings . mike, did you show's ratings. mike, did you have to sign any clauses about nudhy have to sign any clauses about nudity ? because itv did decide nudity? because itv did decide that there is any kind of clause in the contract that protects your privacy. did you did you have any sort of small print that would suggest no nudity ? that would suggest no nudity? >> the only small prints in the night were those made by rats. but no, we didn't actually. but people did get in in the shower. they did get in the lake in bikinis. and the mainly the women and showering there, i guess, you know, you had to be naked at some time because you were changing into bed. apart from ruddock , who didn't from razor ruddock, who didn't change for the entire change at all for the entire time did i think he stayed in

the same clothes the entire time. but i think but you have to change at some point. you have clothes have to take your clothes off. i mean, myself is mean, charlie brocket myself is go sponge bags as sort mean, charlie brocket myself is go schoolboysionge bags as sort mean, charlie brocket myself is go schoolboys to ge bags as sort mean, charlie brocket myself is go schoolboys to down gs as sort mean, charlie brocket myself is go schoolboys to down the s sort mean, charlie brocket myself is go schoolboys to down the river of schoolboys to down the river to wash every morning and clean our do ablutionary our teeth and do ablutionary things. but so, yeah, you have to be, you know, a little unclothed at some point. yeah. but they decide what they show. they to show that they don't have to show that bit. it. they do not bit. they filmed it. they do not have to show the naked bit. if they have to show the naked bit. if the now jenny top itv boss kevin >> now jenny top itv boss kevin lygo was caught joking about nigel farage at a private event and told he made an obscene gesture about nigel and said that he'll be, quote, leaving australia in a dinghy. now i know kevin lygo very well. i worked under him for several years at channel 4. he's a very creative and funny man. he's a very nice man . creative and funny man. he's a very nice man. but did he go too far this time ? far this time? >> do you know what i think we should all get a bit of a sense of humour. i think nigel and his lawyers get sense lawyers should get a sense of humour. if kevin humour. and i think if kevin wants a joke about it, wants to make a joke about it,

this funny show. ant and this is a funny show. ant and dec spent time trying dec spent the whole time trying to make us laugh. let's laugh about goodness sake, about it, for goodness sake, grow everybody . grow up, everybody. >> jenny king of the jungle. christopher biggins told on christopher biggins told me on last night's show that he thinks i'm celebrity. may be running i'm a celebrity. may be running out steam, possibly with just out of steam, possibly with just 2 or 3 series left to go. would you agree? >> well, sometimes i think that, but i suppose i'd like mike, because we were in there . you because we were in there. you kind watch it and think, because we were in there. you kin

watchable. i'm watchable. i don't know. i'm enjoying watchable. i don't know. i'm enijou; you did an amazing >> you did. you did an amazing trial though. you were buried underground lot underground with rats and a lot of people couldn't have done that. was amazing . that. that was amazing. >> did a couple of decades >> jenny did a couple of decades at she was well at the beeb, so she was well prepared. can i ask michael prepared. can i ask you, michael , finally , how far can nigel go? , finally, how far can nigel go? i don't mean in terms of nudity on the show . on the show. >> i love it . full frontal, i >> i love it. full frontal, i think. no i think he i think he'll do very, very well. i think he'll do very well. he's come over very well. a lot of people weren't sure about him. now actually quite like him. and a lot of people are very anti nigel now sort warmed nigel have now sort of warmed towards . he's a very genial towards him. he's a very genial bloke. i mean and of course once people start , you know, tagging people start, you know, tagging you with things , then everybody you with things, then everybody does it. there's a monster on the hill. let's all go out with flaming and suddenly the flaming torches and suddenly the crowd swells and nobody knows why following. i why they're following. but i think very well. think he's come over very well. yeah not as well you, mike. yeah not as well as you, mike. >> we loved your poem. let's have of that next time >> we loved your poem. let's have on. of that next time >> we loved your poem. let's have on. mythat next time >> we loved your poem. let's have on. my thanks xt time >> we loved your poem. let's have on. my thanks to time >> we loved your poem. let's have on. my thanks to radio you're on. my thanks to radio legend mike read and former top

bbc royal correspondent jennie bond. thanks, jenny. thanks, mike. catch up soon. this is unbelievable. coming up as an extraordinary gb news civil war breaks out between two of its biggest stars, richard tice and lee anderson is a vote for reform uk a vote for keir starmer? i'll be asking one of the party's most high profile supporters, ann widdecombe. let me tell you that gb news management would rather that i don't talk about this story, but i'm very naughty. as you know , i'm very naughty. as you know, and that's exactly what we're doing in two minutes time. are you tice or team anderson you team tice or team anderson plus , in an exclusive mark dolan plus, in an exclusive mark dolan tonight people's poll we've been asking, were itv wrong to show nigel farage is backside to millions of viewers ? well, the millions of viewers? well, the results are in and i shall reveal all next. and i don't mean nigel's bum

they said, is your wife catholic ? and i said, no, she's. they said, is your wife catholic ? and i said, no, she's . white ? and i said, no, she's. white >> now we've conducted an exclusive mark dolan tonight

people's poll. we've been asking, were itv wrong to show nigel farages backside to millions of viewers? i'm calling it begum gate. it's a growing scandal , not it begum gate. it's a growing scandal, not his bum. what happened ? the results are in . happened? the results are in. and 48.8% say no. and 51.2% say yes. they were wrong to show nigel's derriere . i will add nigel's derriere. i will add that for a man of his vintage, he's in excellent shape. and i think you'll agree he's smashing it in the jungle. go, nigel. it's time now for the newsmaker and an extraordinary row has broken out between two of my colleagues. that's right. two of gb news biggest stars, the deputy chairman of the conservative party, lee anderson, and reform uk leader richard tice . with tice strong, richard tice. with tice strong, strongly denying claims that lee anderson was offered a huge amount of to money defect to the party. this comes as the prime minister, rishi sunak, is quoted as saying a vote for reform uk would put keir starmer in number

10. well, let's speak now to tonight's newsmaker, one of the most high profile supporters of reform uk , former government reform uk, former government minister and broadcaster ann widdecombe and a very good evening to you. first of all, ann, this war of words between lee anderson and richard tice, could this turn nasty or is it handbags at dawn ? handbags at dawn? >> oh, i think this is almost inevitable in an election year. >> i think all of us can remember in in 2019, as we were coming up to a general election, you know, there were allegations that the conservative party had run up and tried to do deals and bribe people not to stand form the conservatives, not to stand against their former colleagues, etcetera. so you know, this is par for the course and it's not a gb news civil war. come on, mark. this is between two men who are in complete different parties and occupying very senior positions in those

parties. but lee anderson has changed his story a bit. you know, first of all, he said he'd received a huge had been offered a huge amount of money. and i had visions of, you know, a sort of a large cheque being handed out . but then of a large cheque being handed out. but then he said, no, actually he what he'd been asked to do was stand for reform uk and if he lost he'd be found a job in the party. so it's gone from a pot of gold to a job in the party now, you know, i don't take any of this seriously and all i'm concerned about is the policies and therefore now if you ask a tai or a lee anderson, i'm tice, but on the basis of policies. can you hear me, mark i most certainly can loud and clear, ann. >> i'm just going to get a right of reply from lee anderson in a moment , but of reply from lee anderson in a moment, but can i just ask you to confirm then , ann, do reform to confirm then, ann, do reform uk offer money people to uk offer money for people to defect out? were you offered cash for your support? >> certainly not. and of course , >> certainly not. and of course, i didn't initially support reform uk. i changed to the

brexit party because i wanted brexit. i rang nigel and proposed myself to join nobody suggested to me that i should and then i didn't join reform for quite a while because i had doubts about some of the policies. so i didn't join for quite a while, but then because of the antics from the tory party um, i decided that yes, i would join and i've no regrets at . all at. all >> okay, let me tell you that lee anderson ann has said the allegations made by richard tice are simply ridiculous. the facts are simply ridiculous. the facts are quite simple. from time to time, politicians do meet other politicians from different parties. and one such meeting i was offered the chance to join another part, another party for the following deal . i join the following deal. i join within a few months and stand for this party at the next election . if i lost my seat, i'd election. if i lost my seat, i'd be guaranteed a job with the party for five years on the same salary as an mp to falsely claim that i used this as leverage to get the position of deputy

chairman is an insult to me and my party. well, there you go. a job which is the equivalent of five years as an mp . that sounds five years as an mp. that sounds like a bribe to me. an a? >> well, i mean , it depends >> well, i mean, it depends entirely what the job entailed. if it was a token job. yes. that would be a bribe. if it was a very demanding very serious and demanding job, then , you know, it might be then, you know, it might be lesser . but then, you know, it might be lesser. but all i can say is that, you know, as he himself says, you know, politicians do meet each other from time to time and huge pressure was put on me in 2019 by somebody senior in number 10. and this is a fact to which i would willingly testify with my hand on the good book. i was phoned up by a senior person in number 10 to say that if i would stand down then they would involve me in what they called the brexit talks and heaven knows what that meant . but talks and heaven knows what that meant. but you talks and heaven knows what that meant . but you know, talks and heaven knows what that meant. but you know, this sort of stuff goes on the whole time. >> how did you feel when you

received that call? what were your emotions then ? your emotions then? >> well, i was furious. i mean , >> well, i was furious. i mean, first of all, the person who called tried to put enormous called me tried to put enormous pressure on to stand, pressure on me not to stand, said would be my fault if the said it would be my fault if the conservatives because i was conservatives lost because i was standing marginal seat . it standing in a marginal seat. it would fault if the labour would be my fault if the labour chap won again and the conservatives lost . and so first conservatives lost. and so first of all, he put that pressure on me and said, go away. i thought of all of that and then he rang me back later and offered me this very nebulous thing about being part of the talks that was going on. it was going on and other people were and was was that call threatening in its tone ? no, no, it wasn't tone? no, no, it wasn't threatening in its tone at all. if it had been threatening, i'd have phoned him. no, it was from somebody i knew. and but it was it was a high pressure call. and the answer was no. the answer was just simply no , which is the was just simply no, which is the measure of your principles as a

person and a politician. >> and more power to you. that's the ann widdecombe that i know and that my viewers and listeners know. so now you used to be a big c conservative, of course, a top government course, a former top government minister in the home office , a minister in the home office, a long standing conservative mp and a legend of the party. i guess you could be described as a small c conservative now because you've left the tories and you support reform uk . do and you support reform uk. do you not fear that if many people vote for reform uk that guarantees victory for keir starmer in a year's time ? starmer in a year's time? >> well, that was exactly what they said to us before that if we voted for the brexit party, we voted for the brexit party, we would put jeremy corbyn in office. so we stood down against all the conservative candidates and only fought labour candidates . and so we did that. candidates. and so we did that. and what did we get? did we get the brexit that we were promised? we did not. you know, did we get any recognition for

what we had done, any thanks from boris for what we had done? we did not. but crucially crucially , brexit, northern crucially, brexit, northern ireland was betrayed. now they can't pull it a second time. they can't do it a second time and say, oh, you know, you must stand down because you might put starmer in because would say starmer in because we would say we've heard it all before. and i would say this vote, tory, get pink . there would say this vote, tory, get pink. there is no blue party. >> and are you suggesting therefore for that five years of labouris therefore for that five years of labour is a price worth paying for the rights of politics in this country to reform and reinvent itself ? reinvent itself? >> well, all i know is there are no tourists. so, you know, when people say to me, look, the tories will lose, i look grand, and well, where are these and i say, well, where are these tourists? there are no tourists? you know, there are no tories. haven't got a tory tories. we haven't got a tory government record government. we've got record high tax. you know , this is a high tax. you know, this is a conservative government record immigration. this is a

conservative government. the nhs is in tatters. this is a conservative government. we haven't actually got any conservatives to vote for. there are individual conservatives, but we haven't got a conservative party to vote for . conservative party to vote for. and this time, i mean , i am very and this time, i mean, i am very clear that we have to send not a warning shot across their bows, which is what we did with the brexit at european elections. we have to actually fire a big hole in the ship so that they start taking some notice and everyone takes notice of you. >> it's always a highlight to have you on the programme on a sunday night as our newsmaker, former government minister and television ann television personality ann widdecombe , supporter reform widdecombe, supporter of reform uk , returns in a week's time. uk, returns in a week's time. but coming up, tomorrow's newspaper front pages and live reaction in the studio from my top pundits . plus, in another top pundits. plus, in another mark dolan tonight poll we've been asking as the gb news eu's civil war breaks out between lee anderson and richard tice is a vote for reform, a vote for keir

starmer? the results are in. i shall reveal

police and the event organisers of the march had already stated that they didn't want him there . that they didn't want him there. >> great to have your company. so a bit of housekeeping loving being with you tonight. of course, on the radio and on tv. so it's a brand new show on friday nights . that's right. friday nights. that's right. i will be nine. was it eight? eight till nine on friday nights? friday night live with mark dolan. eight till nine every friday. and then saturday and sunday, nine till 11 for mark dolan tonight. as always, if enjoying show and if you're enjoying the show and if you're enjoying the show and if you're enjoying channel, if you're enjoying the channel, tell friends , tell your tell your friends, tell your family change the family and let's change the world together. now earlier we asked you as a gb news civil war breaks out between lee anderson and richard tice is a vote for reform a vote for keir starmer and 32.6% say yes , whilst and 32.6% say yes, whilst a majority, 67.4, say . no. we'll majority, 67.4, say. no. we'll get the views of my top pundits on that in just a moment. plus,

more reaction to the fallout from nigel in the jungle. nigel's lawyers have written a furious to itv about furious letter to itv about boomgates , but more on that boomgates, but more on that shortly. but first, tomorrow's front pages . and thank you, front pages. and thank you, josh, we start with the daily mail and we have no war cries, no angry chants, just solid parity with the uk's fearful jews as 100,000 march against anti—semitism . um, the release anti—semitism. um, the release of a four year old hostage orphaned by hamas reminds the world of their barbarism. the guardian hopes israel and hamas truce can hold as third exchange takes place . nhs delays blamed takes place. nhs delays blamed for 112 112 deaths. data reveals a tragic and gaza hostages freed siblings has told of their parents fate and dear old terry venables passes away at the age of 80. legendary football

manager, of course, tottenham crystal palace and england. the eye newspaper. now millions face higher taxes until the election in and tens of thousands join protest march against anti—semitism . um the sun terry anti—semitism. um the sun terry venables 1943 to 2023 one tell of a fella gas as tributes of football legend of course terry venables was the england manager spurs crystal palace a couple of other clubs as well , spurs crystal palace a couple of other clubs as well, and he managed very successfully in barcelona, which is why he got the nickname el tell de mira, terry venables, the great showman , charismatic football showman, charismatic football star, passionate england boss, author, singer and hotel and club owner . metro farewell . i'll club owner. metro farewell. i'll tell . and the daily star. three tell. and the daily star. three lions legend dies. tell. and the daily star. three lions legend dies . farewell to lions legend dies. farewell to ltn is their headline to football. tonight paid tribute to terry venables , who led to terry venables, who led england . to the ,1,996 england. to the ,1,996 semi—finals. gareth southgate ,

semi—finals. gareth southgate, consoled by terry after a penalty miss said a brilliant man who made people feel special. indeed, he did well . special. indeed, he did well. he's up there in heaven now, organised his first 11 probably with diego maradona , maradona, a with diego maradona, maradona, a few others. brilliant stuff. let's get reaction now from mike. top pundits to all of tomorrow's front pages . plus, tomorrow's front pages. plus, we're going to get more on what's jungle what's happened in the jungle tonight nigel and the gang. tonight with nigel and the gang. with me, this evening, with me, though, this evening, my camp mates , who are my gang, my camp mates, who are very behaved and quite very well behaved and quite clean , broadcaster and comedian clean, broadcaster and comedian sajeela curci trade unionist andy mcdonald, who will put anything in his mouth and former conservative and farmer neil conservative mp and farmer neil parish. he's not squeamish . he's parish. he's not squeamish. he's had his hands on udders all afternoon. haven't you ? afternoon. haven't you? >> probably, yes. >> probably, yes. >> listen , folks, lots of >> listen, folks, lots of stories to get through and can we talk about this march in central london? sevilla no war cries, no angry chants, just solidarity with uk's fearful jews. luckily this is 100,000 people. it seemed to have gone

without incident . without incident. >> that's a good thing . yeah. >> that's a good thing. yeah. >> that's a good thing. yeah. >> is that in contrast to the pro—palestinian marches we've seen in recent weeks? >> we were going to do that. >> we were going to do that. >> you were waiting for that. >> there was. >> there was. >> was a waiting. >> there was a waiting. >> there was a waiting. >> i was waiting the little >> i was waiting for the little trap. there now, i think it's great. i mean, i don't think there should be any , you know, there should be any, you know, where i stand on this anti—semitism is wrong. islamophobia is wrong . and every islamophobia is wrong. and every single march and i have been protesting my entire life for different things, you know, there's always been an element of like, you know, a few wrongs that will get in there . and i that will get in there. and i think even once the march is oven think even once the march is over. so the people that aren't responsible i know you're trying to get it more than it's not a comparison. isn't it more than a few wrongs the few wrongs that the pro—palestine i don't know. i wasn't you know wasn't on there. but you know what there in what if i was there in solidarity. mike. i was solidarity. sorry, mike. i was there solidarity . and i and i there in solidarity. and i and i here i was asking all the people that i went and a lot people that i went and a lot of people did go. don't it's two did go. i don't think it's two different things. has been

different things. there has been anti—semitism has been on the rise. right that people rise. and it's right that people came and supported and it's came out and supported and it's great wasn't just jewish great that it wasn't just jewish people. as well. people. others came out as well. but sense as the but in the same sense as the pro—palestine jewish people came out with that as well, to say that it was wrong what was happening israel. it's happening with israel. so it's not witch did wore happening with israel. so it's ncbest. witch did wore happening with israel. so it's ncbest. you itch did wore happening with israel. so it's ncbest. you know? did wore happening with israel. so it's ncbest. you know? no. did wore happening with israel. so it's ncbest. you know? no. well,ore it best. you know? no. well, i've said two different things. >> i totally agree. and i've said sides the middle >> i totally agree. and i've said is sides the middle >> i totally agree. and i've said is fool'ses the middle >> i totally agree. and i've said is fool's errand.3 middle east is a fool's errand. >> it most certainly is. >> and it most certainly is. >> and it most certainly is. >> but andy, you wanted to interject. >> but andy, you wanted to inte i ject. >> but andy, you wanted to intel mean , it says, you know, >> i mean, it says, you know, war cries no chance . you know, war cries no chance. you know, the edl were there. tommy robinson know, robinson was there. you know, he's racist criminal, he's a racist criminal, a convicted fraudster. he beats up policemen. you know, he hates muslims. that's him. >> your christmas card list. >> off your christmas card list. >> off your christmas card list. >> well, tommy robinson, he was there positives. >> positive side >> he's got positive side as well. his mother loves well. does he? his mother loves him . him. >> well, if i was his mother, i wouldn't love him. he's a racist criminal. and he was there. he got arrested. anywhere he goes, he thrives on violence. he just he thrives on violence. he thrives on conflict . and, you he thrives on conflict. and, you know, i think it's a real shame, particularly in the media and looking on twitter, particularly

today did overshadow today, it did overshadow what should have been a really positive the positive march. you know, the campaign anti—semitism, campaign against anti—semitism, a organisation . they a really good organisation. they organised generally organised this and generally it went without he came went without hitch. but he came and don't know throws and i don't know why he throws his weight these things. his weight behind these things. you did have some you know. well, we did have some of semitic before. >> have of those >> we did have some of those characters at the during remembrance sunday armistice remembrance sunday and armistice day as well. they were quickly apprehended . yes. but apprehended by police. yes. but do there's a contrast do you think there's a contrast between conduct of those on between the conduct of those on the marches the pro—palestinian marches versus what we london versus what we saw in london today ? today? >> yeah, probably. yeah i mean, you know, there are there are idiots on every side. you know, when you've got a march of i think it was 300,000, the palestinian march, if you've got 100 idiots, that's not bad going, but you've still got 100. >> i know about this, >> i don't know about this, though, wonder if though, because i wonder if there viewers there are jewish viewers and listeners listening listeners watching and listening to this neal, who will to this show, neal, who will feel were a large feel that there were a large number of anti—semitic tropes, chants and slogans brandished over several weekends since october the 7th, the equivalent of which we didn't see

yesterday. >> yeah , i mean, i think one, >> yeah, i mean, i think one, i welcome them march yesterday because i think the jewish community must be, you know, feeling a little bit more secure because of it. i think . i mean, because of it. i think. i mean, i think the trouble was there were some really nasty slogans in previous marches, in the previous marches, especially when, know, and especially when, you know, and this going to this wasn't we we're going to drive israel into the sea and could you call that a fringe? these are you call that a fringe minority, though, on those marches? >> i'm not sure that's the case. >> i'm not sure that's the case. >> i'm not sure that's the case. >> i mean, i don't think it was the but there were the majority, but there were certainly a number there that actually and actually believe that. and i think that the problem. but think that is the problem. but as rightly the as you quite rightly say, the middle east, i mean, the problem is that israel had to act is that the israel had to act against hamas when they slaughtered their innocent people . but of course, the scale people. but of course, the scale of the onslaught into gaza is actually going to is turning. many people , unfortunately, many people, unfortunately, against israel. and so, therefore, you know, it is a balance to be had . but i think balance to be had. but i think marches in this country. i think what worries me in this country is that all communities must

is that we all communities must feel safe, both the jewish community and everyone. and so that's why i think, you know, i welcome this march. i think until the situation settles down, until a permanent ceasefire is achieved in gaza, we are going to get marches every week. >> anti passions run high. >> anti passions run high. >> well, i do think you're right. and we can all pray for a peaceful resolution to that conflict. sorry to interrupt you, neil, but let me get now to the guardian. andy, nhs delays blamed for 112 deaths. data reveals. well, i would fear that's the tip of the iceberg. do you think our nhs is still fit for purpose and how would labour fix it? >> i think in principle, yeah, it's purpose. it's it's fit for purpose. it's lasted, what, 60, 70 years now it's had its 70th birthday. a couple of a couple of months ago, but it , couple of a couple of months ago, but it, it's really struggled. think covid really struggled. i think covid really took i think took its toll and i think looking at those net migration figures as well, it's dealing it's exceeded its capacity. it's deaung it's exceeded its capacity. it's dealing with even people .

dealing with even more people. you know, there are lots of british lot non british people, a lot of non british people, a lot of non british are here british people who are here legally the nhs. legally who rely on the nhs. they taxes , they pay they pay their taxes, they pay their it. there their bit towards it. but there have consistent failures have been consistent failures from this conservative government. at, government. i was looking at, i think it was richard bacon's. he tweeted today a fantastic graphic of when the tories were last in power before blair. the waiting times went up . then waiting times went up. then dunng waiting times went up. then during blair and brown, they went down. and over the last 13 years they've gone up even over looking pre—covid , they were looking pre—covid, they were growing exponentially. it's been a constant mismanagement and lack of understanding of what the nhs is. you know, the tories, they've just been looking after their mate's pockets, that's all they've been doing. >> neil do you accept that? >> neil do you accept that? >> no, i don't. i think the problem is the 52% problem with the nhs is the 52% that's administration that's spent on administration charleton and therefore we've got nurses, got great doctors, great nurses, but spending too much on but we are spending too much on the and yes , that's the bureaucracy and yes, that's partly the fault of the conservative government. i'll accept that. but it's fault accept that. but it's the fault of all political parties because we actually get to grips we don't actually get to grips with the real problem. and i think there will have to be absolutely fundamental reform.

but of course, every time we try and reform the health service, it largely goes wrong . and i it largely goes wrong. and i think that's the issue . and i think that's the issue. and i think that's the issue. and i think we've got we've got to make sure that the chalk face, the actual the operations , all the actual the operations, all of that is delivered. we don't need the amount of bureaucracy . need the amount of bureaucracy. i mean, you know, i mean, i'm having my, my hip done, hopefully through the nhs soon. but, you know, the amount of bureaucracy i had to go through there to get on to the list. once you get on to the list, then it starts to work and all of a sudden the whole thing clicks and it's very good. and when actually the to when you actually go to the to the and see the surgeon the hospital and see the surgeon , very well. but it's , it works very well. but it's that everything . you that process and everything. you have to go through a huge process to get there. and somehow or other that's got to be cut out. i don't think, you know, to labour, know, in fairness to labour, they can as money as they can chuck as much money as they can chuck as much money as they it. if how? they like at it. if but how? because the is over borrowed at the moment. well the conservatives have paid no to the than ever before. the nhs than ever before. exactly. you recognise exactly. i'm glad you recognise that, but hasn't been as

that, but. but it hasn't been as effective it should be and i effective as it should be and i think it'll be interesting to see whether labour and i think this is where actually that i'd like to see keir starmer if he wants to win the next general election , actually come out and election, actually come out and say exactly , exactly what he's say exactly, exactly what he's going to do with the health service and exactly how he would change because one change it. because i think one of issues were talking of the issues we were talking about political about earlier is the political parties all look the same and while they might vote labour, they won't vote labour with any great heart because they're not sure whether those changes are going to come and i think keir starmer has got to be a lot braver and the labour party has got to be a lot braver at the moment. all it is at the moment is anti—tory. let's careful is anti—tory. let's be careful because frighten the because we might frighten the voters. actually what voters. let's actually see what the money is and the colour of their money is and what difference they would really make . really make. >> sajeela the nhs is it about money is it about how it's run? >> well, i think it's a little bit of both. i kind of agree with learned colleagues here. i think we're learned. >> i think we're learned. >> i think we're learned. >> i think we're learned. >> i generally unlearn it. >> i generally unlearn it. >> i've learned that agreement

as well as nudity is not in your contract because i think i think if all the parties are going to look the same, might as well be unhed look the same, might as well be united on that. yeah, but yeah, there is problem the nhs there is a problem with the nhs and of on and like you, i kind of rely on it lot for things. the it quite a lot for things. the bureaucracy is a lot of plastic surgery, of course. plastic surgery, of course. plastic surgery of course. well surgery, of course. money well spent. say yes? >> can i just say yes? >> can i just say yes? >> well, this knows, you know , >> well, this knows, you know, nobody wants a perfect nose. they want a nose like this . but they want a nose like this. but the it's the the thing is, it's the bureaucracy. and you ask the doctors and nurses and i think we have we're bogged down with paperwork. we're constantly having to do this rather than looking after patients. nurses having to do this rather than lookiito after patients. nurses having to do this rather than lookiito be er patients. nurses having to do this rather than lookiito be looking|ts. nurses having to do this rather than lookiito be looking afterurses want to be looking after patients. so you've got this patients. so you've got all this and be money, but and there needs to be money, but you at you can't just throw money at willy it's to be used willy nilly. it's got to be used utilised a and i don't think utilised in a and i don't think there been a proper there has been a proper structure for many years, not any party sorted that out. so yeah, if both of them like labour and the tories could get together and actually do something that something substantive, that that would be winning votes, but could we hold fire the money side? >> because you said it was this

possibly how run and money? >> because you said it was this posznot' how run and money? >> because you said it was this posznot sure run and money? >> because you said it was this posznot sure it run and money? >> because you said it was this posznot sure it is run and money? >> because you said it was this posznot sure it is moneyi money? >> because you said it was this posznot sure it is money because�* i'm not sure it is money because i'm not sure it is money because i think it's a money pit. i'd like the nhs spend like i'd like the nhs to spend less actually be less money and actually be a leaner, more efficient organisation because at the moment it's £160 billion a year and growing and we seem to be getting sicker not more healthy. >> yeah, but where's the money going then? >> so i mean there seems to be going middle going on a lot of middle management, as said, that management, as neil said, that damning of 50% damning figure of over 50% of the budget is not on frontline care. >> it's not doctors , not nurses. >> it's not doctors, not nurses. >> it's not doctors, not nurses. >> frontline because the frontline saying that frontline are saying that they're getting it. that's frontline are saying that they they're getting it. that's frontline are saying that they they're going| it. that's frontline are saying that they they're going| it.strike. why they're going on strike. so, you frontline. you know, the frontline. >> neil. >> last word briefly, neil. >> last word briefly, neil. >> mean, because >> well, i mean, because the trouble the decisions on how trouble is the decisions on how the is done by the service is run is done by the service is run is done by the of the administration. and of course, administration the administration. and of course itselfadministration the administration. and of course itself up|inistration the administration. and of course itself up into ration the administration. and of course itself up into ation the administration. and of course itself up into a bigger builds itself up into a bigger bureaucracy. so until we actually cut that out and somebody brave enough to do it and bringing the parties where there would be great, but of course, it will always be a political . political football. >> okay. >> okay. >> look, speaking of >> well, look, speaking of political football, i've got more the jungle. more developments in the jungle. not only nigel farages not only have nigel farages lawyers sent a furious message

to itv about his bum being exposed on national tv, which i'm calling bum gate. it's worse than watergate, let me tell you , than watergate, let me tell you, because, you know, i'll never unsee that image. but another development, and that's fred sirieix, who's nigel's campmate in the . jungle and sirieix, who's nigel's campmate in the .jungle and nigel have in the. jungle and nigel have had another furious row about brexit. that's right. it's . brexit. that's right. it's. brexit. that's right. it's. brexit the argument number two, we've got the exclusive video and that's .

next okay, more front pages in courtesy of lottie . and let me courtesy of lottie. and let me say we've got the daily express . say we've got the daily express. now ltl dies at 80. legendary football manager who made engush football manager who made english football smile again. he most certainly did . brace most certainly did. brace yourselves. arctic blast on the way. there could be ice on the roads and even snow. i'm a bit

worried about neil's brussels sprouts. they could get very hard. >> they could get very frozen. >> they could get very frozen. >> most definitely . >> most definitely. >> most definitely. >> also, they're better. >> also, they're better. >> they're tastier when they've had a bit of frost for the for the avoidance of doubt, my lovely colleague neil is a top, top farmer as well as former tory mp royal story here. >> harry must hit out at cruel attacks on the royals. this according to a brand new book from omid scobie , who is pretty from omid scobie, who is pretty close, we're told, to the sussexes in his book is out this week. it's all about the royal family. another bombshell, speaking of bombshells , more speaking of bombshells, more action the jungle tonight. action in the jungle tonight. and nigel farage and fred sirieix is campmates have clashed yet again over brexit. it's round two. here's what happened on tonight's i'm a celebrity . celebrity. >> what's the three benefits of brexit self—government , which we brexit self—government, which we already had we did not have. >> okay , fred, there's no point >> okay, fred, there's no point if you believe that. >> if you believe that you don't

understand what the european union is. >> so why was second benefit? >> well, hopefully our >> well, hopefully take back our territorial . territorial waters. >> but when talking about >> but when i'm talking about benefits, i'm talking about something tangible. all right. the nuclear submarine deal with australia have australia could not have been done member done as a european union member because had because france already had a contract as. contract simple as. >> but we could have done it with france . that made me laugh . with france. that made me laugh. >> in fact, the french were really pissed off about that. >> of course they were good. a lot of people in life are persuadable. fred sirieix is not one them, but the point about one of them, but the point about it is we can a mess of it it is we can make a mess of it ourselves if we choose to, and that and that's what are that is and that's what we are doing. argued, doing. and i've always argued, i've that. i've always argued that. >> neil, brexit is >> well, neil, brexit is a debate that raged across the country and it raged within the conservative party. do you think that nigel has represented the cause well, there ? cause well, there? >> i think i think nigel always fights a good corner for brexit. i mean, naturally i was actually on the other side during the referendum . i actually referendum. i actually campaigned and voted remain and i think it's the party can live

with both sides and move on now that we've got brexit. i mean, i think what most of us actually want is to make sure that brexit actually builds up trade and we can retain as much european trade as we can and then have much more across the world. so i think nigel will stick to his guns in, in, in the jungle. i mean, are you going to discuss the fact of nigel's backside going across the world? because i would say to him, there you sign up to go into the jungle, you must put up with what happens. and i think you'll find there's very few waivers on that show. that's the whole idea of going into the jungle. so he's a big boy. he can deal with brexit and he can deal with that. i'll be quite blunt about it. well a&e, listen, i know and you're rightly concerned that on this channel elsewhere, channel and perhaps elsewhere, there's some of these there's a focus on some of these lighter like nigel lighter stories like nigel farage is bum. >> and you during >> and you said during the break, people break, there are people struggling of struggling with the cost of living, in their homes. living, freezing in their homes. tonight, however, tonight, as we speak, however, i thought what's interesting about this new series of i'm a

celebrity is that some of the conversations that we need to have as a nation have been happening in the jungle. so you had rose and nigel had nella rose and nigel discussing immigration, and now they're debating the benefits of otherwise otherwise of otherwise or otherwise of brexit. is that positive for shows like imaceleb city to platform the national debate ? platform the national debate? >> i'm sure all 200 of their viewers are loving it. you know, it's a shrinking show. it's past its realistically and even its time. realistically and even the conversations that they're having, you that having, you know, you saw that with shero. it you know, with fred shero. is it you know, it very it wasn't it wasn't a very it wasn't a very would he very as you would say, he wouldn't be colleague . wouldn't be a learned colleague. he across very he didn't put it across very well. know, the argument was well. you know, the argument was very an very it's like having an argument it's just argument in a skill. it's just like it's childish. like it's so childish. >> sirieix , both of >> who fred sirieix, both of them, you know, the back and forth on. them, you know, the back and fortoh,|. if you think that, >> oh, well, if you think that, then like then you're not serious. like it's serious conversation. it's not serious conversation. >> he asked nigel for three benefits of brexit and nigel only gave him two. >> he gave. only gave him two. >> well, he gave. only gave him two. >> well, he he gave. only gave him two. >> well, he gave gave. only gave him two. >> well, he gave three, didn't he? no, gave the french >> well, no, he gave the french submarine taking the, the submarine taking back the, the self—governance. and there was something about territories was dismissed it's petty. that's

dismissed but it's petty. that's not actually what brexit was about. and you know, i know that nigel wasn't on the main brexit campaign. i know he had his own little fringe thing going on, but were but you know, those that were actually following the real brexit campaign, it was about taking industrial brexit campaign, it was about taking takingdustrial brexit campaign, it was about taking taking back al heartlands, taking back industrial giving industrial opportunities, giving freedom, know, money freedom, and you know, money to the and the north. the midlands and the north. that was one, the one was what won the one, the one the referendum, not we'll get a nuclear submarine deal with us because i think. >> did you support brexit? >> did you support brexit? >> i did, yeah. >> i did, yeah. >> and so you feel that it >> and so do you feel that it hasn't been properly delivered? >> at you know, >> it hasn't at all. you know, you the industrial you look at all the industrial opportunities that have just been delivered been lost, could it be delivered still? yeah, i so, yeah. been lost, could it be delivered stillknow, , i so, yeah. been lost, could it be delivered stillknow, we're so, yeah. been lost, could it be delivered stillknow, we're lookingeah. been lost, could it be delivered stillknow, we're looking at. been lost, could it be delivered stillknow, we're looking at the been lost, could it be delivered stilliinto , we're looking at the been lost, could it be delivered stilliinto , we'reindustriest the r&d into green industries that could in could definitely be focussed in those were those heartlands that were promised but know , promised to deal. but you know, it but it probably won't. but westminster will. westminster lot will. >> briefly, can i be blunt and ask question? mean, the ask you a question? i mean, the tories haven't delivered brexit well, actually well, but do you actually believe labour party would? >> yeah, i think they will. i think they, i think they've got a don't half them a bad chance. don't half of them want back the eu? want to go back into the eu? >> don't think half of >> i just don't think half of them, of them. >> i just don't think half of the neil of them. >> i just don't think half of the neil want,them. >> i just don't think half of the neil want, want a go back >> neil want, want a to go back into union or single

market. >> who's foreign secretary market. >>the |o's foreign secretary market. >>the moment.yreign secretary market. >>the moment. yeah secretary at the moment. yeah >> well lord secretary . yeah. >> well lord secretary. yeah. >> well lord secretary. yeah. >> lord david cameron and just remind me, what he do in remind me, what did he do in the, the brexit referendum. the, in the brexit referendum. >> well he campaigned the >> yeah. well he campaigned the entire remain for remain. of course did run entire course he did not run the entire remain campaign. >> you're going to >> i think if you're going to throw it's throw that stone, it's impossible when the conservatives david conservatives have got david cameron, that cameron, i, i still think that three of the labour party three parts of the labour party would us into the, the would have us back into the, the european union tomorrow, wasn't it? he's been in job week it? he's been in the job a week and he's said we need it? he's been in the job a week and heties said we need it? he's been in the job a week and heties with said we need it? he's been in the job a week and heties with europe.e need it? he's been in the job a week and heties with europe. yeah.1 closer ties with europe. yeah. >> go the >> can i just go back to the jungle right. quick word jungle right. quick, quick word in the jungle because i've got your well. >> a e“- well. >> a bit. still e a bit. still a well. >> a bit. still a bit >> just a bit. still a bit traumatised from gate and traumatised from bum gate and nigel's to millions nigel's bum exposed to millions of viewers. i think that was nigel stunt. i think it was a pubuchy nigel stunt. i think it was a publicity stunt. i think it was a publicity stunt. i think that probably than probably got more viewers than them about brexit. them talking about brexit. >> nigel was >> so you think nigel was planning it all? >> was plan. >> i think it was a plan. >> i think it was a plan. >> listen, can >> well, listen, listen, can i ask you your i'm going ask you now for your i'm going to ask for a name and a sentence, please, your sentence, please, for your headune sentence, please, for your headline it's going to be >> okay. it's going to be annabel giles. >> okay. it's going to be annabel giles . she sadly passed annabel giles. she sadly passed away. great tv presenter. yeah,

great tv presenter . she was a great tv presenter. she was a supermodel back in the day . she supermodel back in the day. she was at the very first comic relief a passed away this this, this week from an aggressive brain tumour. absolutely fabulous lady. she ran my wonderful lady. >> wonderful lady. annabel giles may may god bless her. and her family. only a few seconds , i'm family. only a few seconds, i'm afraid, for your headline heroes. >> sam altman , the ceo of >> sam altman, the ceo of openai. he got fired last week, came back, trolled the entirety of twitter and the entirety of the silicon valley, and now he's back as chief exec. what a guy. >> what guy. >> what a guy. >> what a guy. >> neil, briefly. >> what a guy. >> yeah,briefly. >> what a guy. >> yeah, shezly. >> what a guy. >> yeah, she was a jewish lady, 85 years old, released by hamas , 85 years old, released by hamas, you know, thought she was going out to be shot. and she is with her family. >> great nomination. only name, please if you can. i thought it was wrong. >> it's a wrong macdonald. >> it's a wrong andy macdonald. i politician . i i thought it was a politician. i thought it was wrong that he was suspended asking suspended. he was just asking for pico. >> andy macdonald, the other one, robinson, the racist thug. >> okay. and neil putin forjust

>> okay. and neil putin for just his continuous war on on a free country like ukraine. >> and he just carries on and carries on. okay >> well, listen, tommy robinson not here to defend himself, but of course, neil entitled to his view. tommy might deny some of those allegations . my thanks to those allegations. my thanks to lottie and greg and josh and maria earlier in the weekend as well. it's been a really busy few days. headliners is next. i'll see you friday at eight. >> hello there and greg dewhurst and welcome to your latest news forecast . so there's further forecast. so there's further rain as we move through the next 24 hours. but it does slip away. it turns brighter, but also colder at the same time. low pressure bringing that rain at the moment. but it does to the moment. but it does start to move as we head through the move away as we head through the end monday , allowing high end of monday, allowing high pressure build in. and it pressure to build in. and it turns a little drier, but also colder, too, through this evening and overnight, of evening and overnight, a lot of cloud outbreak of rain, cloud around outbreak of rain, keeping frost at bay. we keeping the frost at bay. we could see a little bit of frost through the glens of scotland , through the glens of scotland, but also some wintry showers .

but also some wintry showers. moving in, leading to some icy stretches here. generally with the cloud and rain, temperatures holding milder night, 7 to holding up a milder night, 7 to 8 degrees for quite a bit of the country. but it does mean a cloudy, damp, dull start to the day rain, which cloudy, damp, dull start to the day be rain, which cloudy, damp, dull start to the day be retimes ich cloudy, damp, dull start to the day be retimes ,:h cloudy, damp, dull start to the day be retimes , but it would be heavy at times, but it does push south eastwards does slowly push south eastwards through morning, into the through the morning, into the afternoon. the afternoon. and allowing the skies brighten spells . skies to brighten sunny spells. northern ireland, western scotland , later western fringes scotland, later western fringes of england and wales staying quite cloudy and showery in the east. cool here, temperatures 6 or 7 degrees and early max in the south around 10 or 11 before the south around 10 or 11 before the colder air arrives here on tuesday. a cold start to the day, some mist and fog patches , day, some mist and fog patches, wintry showers, icy stretches across the far north. and then for most , it across the far north. and then for most, it will be dry. across the far north. and then for most , it will be dry. plenty for most, it will be dry. plenty of sunny spells through the day. just some showers across

>> very good evening to you, aaron armstrong here in the

newsroom with your headlines. the latest group of freed israeli hostages have been transported to a medical facility, a hospital was seen landing near schneider children's medical centre earlier . children's medical centre earlier. thousands cheered in the streets as 17 captives arrived by convoy in israel after being released by hamas . after being released by hamas. meanwhile, israel's prison service has confirmed the release of 39 palestine prisoners . in exchange, it's the prisoners. in exchange, it's the third of a four day pause in the fighting . in total, the two fighting. in total, the two sides have agreed to swap 50 israeli hostages for 150 jailed palestinian ions. a four year old israeli american girl was amongst those released earlier for both of her parents were killed in the 7th of october. attacks the us president biden has welcomed the news and says he hopes the truce will be extended. so i'm hopeful this is not the end . not the end. >> it's going to continue, but we don't know and but i get a sense that all the players in the region and even the neighbours who aren't have been

directly involved.