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at with legal migration now at record levels, we'll also be going back to the gold coast for an update on nigel in i'm a celebrity, what's going celebrity, what's been going down in the jungle quite a lot, it particularly off set . it seems particularly off set. and we'll be discussing a new bank spying scandal. stay tuned for all of that. but first, here's the news with polly middlehurst . camila thank you middlehurst. camila thank you and good evening to you. we start this bulletin with some breaking news. a convoy carrying more hostages abducted by hamas in the 7th of october. attacks has arrived at the rafah border crossing in egypt within the last half hour. and israel's military says two of the hostages are now with idf special forces . they're safe special forces. they're safe inside israel territory. this is happening right now in egypt on the rafah border crossing. the handover of israeli hostages that have been away from their families for so long were also heanng families for so long were also hearing that more palestinian prisoners will be released
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tonight, marking the sixth day of the current pause in fighting between israel and hamas . the between israel and hamas. the terror group, of course, that calls the abductions on the 7th of october, keeping an eye on events in the middle east for you tonight on gb news. meanwhile, here in the uk, sir keir starmer government keir starmer says the government is for migration is to blame for record migration numbers the uk, as he numbers into the uk, as he promised to scrap laws that allow workers from overseas to be paid less than british workers. the prime minister and the labour leader clashed during prime minister's questions today , with sir keir reminding mps of the government's promise to reduce legal migration back in 2019. rishi sunak conceded that migration levels are still too high, but insisted the number was coming down and ltns been in parliament today talking about a new project which aims to end all new transmissions of hiv in england by 2030. he was highlighting plans for hiv testing in a&e departments to be increased in a bid to detect
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people who have the virus who might not otherwise be tested . might not otherwise be tested. experts say more than 4000 people in england are believed to be living with hiv without without actually knowing health and social care secretary victoria atkins says it's an important step towards eradicating hiv . eradicating hiv. >> we've seen from the scheme that has already rolled out across the highest prevalence areas that thousands of people can be helped with this. these early diagnoses , and then they early diagnoses, and then they can be given the support and the medical treatment they need to lead, not just longer lives, but also high quality lives. >> victoria atkins there. now nottingham city council says it is in severe financial distress and is therefore unable to deliver a balanced budget . our deliver a balanced budget. our east midlands reporter will hollis has more. >> nottingham city council has today announced that it cannot balance its budget and the chief financial officer has issued a section 104 notice effectively
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declaring bankruptcy . that means declaring bankruptcy. that means that the labour led authority from today can only spend money on statutory services . those are on statutory services. those are things like education for roads, for children services. now the council must meet within 21 days to discuss what measures they will be putting in place. the council has already spent a number of years struggling with its finances and today it has really come to a head . really come to a head. >> will hollis, this is gb news across the uk on tv in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news. this is britain's news channel. thanks news. this is britain's news channel . thanks polly. right. channel. thanks polly. right. let's get into this immigration story . i mean, as you know, the story. i mean, as you know, the pm is coming under increasing pressure not just to stop the boats, but also to control legal migration. we had that astonishing figure, a record
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high of 745,000 coming into britain in the year ending december 2020. it has caused a little bit of a row within the tory party as to what to do a lot of right wingers are calling on the government to do much more. sirjohn hayes, for instance, said that 1.3 million migrants coming into the uk over a period two years is a a period of two years is a catastrophe for britain and requires urgent legislation. the immigration minister, robert jenrick, was speaking about this in the house of commons yesterday. this is what he had to say. >> well , i to say. >> well, i think my plan would have been brought to the house before last christmas if i could have done. >> but let's hope we can bring forward a substantive package of reforms very quickly and working intensively with the prime minister of the home secretary. we are at one on this issue and ihope we are at one on this issue and i hope that my honourable friend will not be disappointed . will not be disappointed. >> robert jenrick there seemed to be suggesting that number 10 has been dragging its heels on this issue. he's got a number of suggestions to and bring suggestions to try and bring that migration number
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that legal migration number down. wants to change and down. he wants to change and clamp down on the number of dependents coming the back dependents coming in on the back of particularly student of visas, particularly student visas. he also has suggested that the visa route should be closed off or at least more restrict give to cheap foreign workers , as there's even been workers, as there's even been a row between , we think, suella row between, we think, suella braverman and rishi sunak over the of putting a cap on the idea of putting a cap on earnings those coming in earnings for those coming in from abroad. suella braverman saying that they struck that deal for £40,000 to be the cap, something that's also been advocated by the former prime minister boris johnson . so, minister boris johnson. so, look, it's a complicated issue. there's lots of people asking whether we should solve it by actually saying we need less cheap foreign labour in and more home grown talent. having said that, of course, there are concerns that if you say to people you can't come in unless you're coming a job where you're coming in to a job where you're coming in to a job where you more than £40,000 you earn more than £40,000 a yean you earn more than £40,000 a year, that basically rules out people wanting to work in the nhs or in care or in other customer facing roles where people might not earn £40,000.
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so i'm going to ask you tonight, are we in danger of shooting ourselves in the foot here by saying that we should restrict foreign labour? at the end of the day, the reason why we have so many migrants is that there the day, the reason why we have so |jobs' migrants is that there the day, the reason why we have so |jobs that rants is that there the day, the reason why we have so |jobs that they're that there the day, the reason why we have so |jobs that they're willingere are jobs that they're willing to do seemingly aren't. do that seemingly brits aren't. so in touch with me. email so get in touch with me. email farage at gbnews.com or tweet hashtag farage on gb news. let's bnng hashtag farage on gb news. let's bring richard bartrem into the conversation now . he's an conversation now. he's an immigration lawyer. richard, this proposal all too i don't know , put an earnings cap on know, put an earnings cap on those coming in of £40,000 has obviously raised alarm on the backbenches particularly with one nation tories. i know damian green made the point the former deputy prime minister, that actually if you put a £40,000 cap, who are you going to get to do care work to work in restaurants, to do other manual labour? is it not realistic or not? >> i don't think it's realistic . >> i don't think it's realistic. the background is that there is this shortage , occupational
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this shortage, occupational skills list and it's called that because these are jobs that are , because these are jobs that are, you know, that we need people to do . that's the bottom line. so do. that's the bottom line. so we need people to do these jobs. there's a list each job has a pay there's a list each job has a pay scale on which one might bnng pay scale on which one might bring someone from abroad . and bring someone from abroad. and so unless we're going to pay the going rate to two persons not from abroad , we are stuck with from abroad, we are stuck with people from abroad . but it's but people from abroad. but it's but it's by no means to easy bring a person from abroad to work in the nhs or anywhere else, ehhen the nhs or anywhere else, either. you're quite correct that it's going to knock out a pretty much all but senior nurses, junior doctors in the first couple of years. that's just in the nhs care homes would would be would be bereft and yes i mean i noted on care homes and it's interesting jenrick is saying that the health and social care visa, which has seen 135% leap in applications to 144,000 was not working as well as even its proponents would
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have wished. >> his suggestion is that >> but his suggestion is that care homes should pay people more, conditions and more, improve conditions and improve productivity. these are the same care homes that were nearly wiped out by covid, along with most of their residents. so is really practical for care is it really practical for care homes or indeed anyone in the health sector to paying health sector to be paying a care 40 grand? it's not, care worker? 40 grand? it's not, is it? well i'm not alone. >> i think many of your viewers whose parents are somewhat elderly now in their 70s, etcetera , and we all know what etcetera, and we all know what these homes costs. yes these care homes costs. yes >> but they feel like they're cash strapped because they're trying to provide 24 hour nursing care. all of people's residential costs, all of their food occupation , all therapy. food occupation, all therapy. i mean, they're struggling , aren't mean, they're struggling, aren't they, even with the money that comes to them from county councils. the way, they councils. and by the way, they now add more money to now have to add more money to their because of the their wage packet because of the increase national living wage. >> well, indeed, i don't think there are easy solutions , but we there are easy solutions, but we have to go back to the to the to what we want. do we want more nurses? do we want our elderly
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cared for? do we want more doctors before we've even started on? do we want more scientists, computer scientists, whatever that speciality might be? >> i mean, this shortage list has got quite a list of different people on it. ballet dancers, special plasterers. i mean, it's quite an unusual and eclectic bunch of people we're trying to attract . trying to attract. >> i remind myself that, you know, in ancient rome, greeks came from greek to build monuments . came from greek to build monuments. british came from greek to build monuments . british stonemasons monuments. british stonemasons trekked around europe building the great cathedrals . i just the great cathedrals. i just mentioned the greeks. >> we're going to be discussing the elgin marbles later the the elgin marbles later in the show. look, the end of show. but look, at the end of the an immigration the day, you're an immigration lawyer. numbers are very, lawyer. these numbers are very, very high. we can talk about hong kong and ukraine and kind of special circumstances that have been witnessed in the last 12 months. however there i mean, is there a sense to which we're a soft touch and we're not in control of our borders and we're letting a lot of people in because it's convenient to the british economy . it more tax british economy. it more tax receipts seem to suggest that
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the economy is growing . and it's the economy is growing. and it's kind of like a political decision that the tories don't want to to . want to own up to. >> well, it's certainly convenient for the economy. i think given . if think that's a given. so if we take that , if we take that as a take that, if we take that as a given, that it's good for our economy, let's look at what is it, what is the bad about it? what is the problem? is it integration ? is it housing? is integration? is it housing? is it lack of resources? these people pay good money for their visas. they pay £600 a year to use the nhs, etcetera . so if we use the nhs, etcetera. so if we can say accept that it's good for our economy , that we need for our economy, that we need these people, but there are other problems, let's look at those other problems and try to find a solution. >> but can you how do you integrate eight 745,000 people a year? i mean , if the government year? i mean, if the government had stuck to its repeated pledges about tens of thousands rather than hundreds of thousands, it's much easier, isn't it, to integrate 100,000 people or 200,000 people a year than close to a million? >> these are challenges and each
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country, european or other, faces them in different ways. one can look at what goes on in america or switzerland, but we have to find our own our own path suitable for our for the uk. >> in your experience professionally , i mean, is it professionally, i mean, is it too easy to get into the country, do you think you know this australia ten points based system was meant to find the people that we really need also nurture home—grown talent to do the jobs and fill some of those shortages? i mean , i appreciate shortages? i mean, i appreciate we do have actually a million job vacancies at the moment, but we've got 300,000 people who could aren't are could work that aren't and are on we've got on benefits. so we've got problems domestically , ali. but problems domestically, ali. but are also just a soft touch are we also just a soft touch when it comes to allowing people in? well, i'm going to say no and i'll explain why. >> the broadly speaking, one can come to the uk. if you've got family here. i'm i think that's both correct and moral that if a if i if i happen to holiday in greece, in greece and i've fallen in love with a greek girl that she should be able to come to should uk should you
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to the should uk should you bnng to the should uk should you bring over her grandparents. but that the that doesn't happen. the immigration put back immigration rules are put back in day. it did happen. there immigration rules are put back in a day. it did happen. there immigration rules are put back in a lot y. it did happen. there immigration rules are put back in a lot y. stableiappen. there immigration rules are put back in a lot y. stable doors. there immigration rules are put back in a lot y. stable doors thatre are a lot of stable doors that have not been bolted in the past, but the current of past, but the current set of immigration rules really closes the door on adult dependent relatives. it really quite relatives. it really is quite strict. on just the strict. now on on just the spouse and children. the uk resident or national will have to have a minimum income so he can support his family. that increases if you're bringing children. already children. so there's already a fairly high bar. it's not anyone can just bring anyone from abroad. so we have families and that's people have families and people get married and then we have workers and we've already established that these are workers who we have declared that we need the uk company appues that we need the uk company applies for something called a sponsorship license, pays lots of money for it , issues this of money for it, issues this this , this certificate to the this, this certificate to the migrants. they then pay various fees and jump through hoops and they come to do a job which we have deemed is necessary . and we have deemed is necessary. and we
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have deemed is necessary. and we have deemed is necessary. and we have deemed that no one else can feel. so i really can't see a lot of wriggle room, but it does feel somewhat just to finish, richard yeah, a kind of system in a degree of chaos. >> i mean, is the home office to blame here? because it seems to perhaps not be fit for purpose ? perhaps not be fit for purpose? very briefly. >> no, i actually have a great deal of respect from the home office for the home office. you might fine. that's might be fine. that's surprising. i've i've been in immigration or more immigration law for 25 or more years . i've known a lot of years. i've known a lot of immigration officers. but perhaps some of their historical knowledge being lost. as in knowledge is being lost. as in all organisations. if ask all organisations. if you ask the guys doing the guys who are doing enforcement, tell you enforcement, they'll tell you what's going on. they'll know, they what's going on. they know what's going on. >> i mean, thank very >> okay, i mean, thank you very much this much for your contribution this evening. bartram there, evening. richard bartram there, immigration lawyer. actually i'm going contradict going to slightly contradict that in show that a little later in the show because moment at a because there is a moment at a select which select committee, which we're going to you a little bit going to show you a little bit later which shows that the later on, which shows that the home office might be in a bit of a when it a state of disarray when it comes tracking those comes to tracking down those they asylum to they haven't granted asylum to and are. but and where they actually are. but anyway, going to go live anyway, we're going to go live
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to the gold coast in just a moment to catch up with imaceleb and all the latest from the jungle stay tuned jungle with ben leo. stay tuned for . on stage . for that. on stage. >> the nation tonight at 8:00. >> the nation tonight at 8:00. >> i will be revealing some legislative legerdemain as a new law passes through the commons mandating all manufacturers make 80% of car sales. electric by 2030. this effectively bans petrol engines and undermines the prime minister's earlier promise. there's more royal drama as omid scobie , the drama as omid scobie, the blighter with his divisive new book, is pulled from bookshelves in the netherlands after allegedly naming a senior royal embroiled in the sussexes race row . but is it really just a row. but is it really just a marketing gimmick? plus, a mystery celebrity joins me to discuss the latest in the i'm a celebrity saga ahead of nigel farage's hotly anticipated bushtucker trial . all this bushtucker trial. all this evening on state of the nation tonight at 8:00
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>> welcome back to farage with me . camilla tominey, i asked you me. camilla tominey, i asked you earlier, are we shooting ourselves in the foot when it comes to trying to kerb immigration and not illegal immigration? we're not talking about that. we're talking about legal and we're legal migration and we're talking are talking about whether we are importing too cheap importing eating too much cheap laboun importing eating too much cheap labour. let's see what had labour. let's see what you had to say, leslie writes, yes, put a £40,000 cap on. we have more than enough people to fill these jobs already. any price is worth paying jobs already. any price is worth paying to stop migration, she says. paying to stop migration, she says . as ian says, symbols by says. as ian says, symbols by restricting immigration, the labour market tightens. so wage rises attract more. currently idle people into the labour market. but jackie is making a point, to be fair, about illegal migrants. but let's just say anyway, she's saying that the vast majority of illegal migrants in the migrants want to work in the drugs trade, not the low paid jobs. rishi envisages. but of course come course if they come here illegally, can't work illegally, they can't work anyway. so that's the difficulty there. somebody who has been there. now somebody who has been working hard is ben leo, who is
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in the gold coast covering everything from the jungle, have a little bit of sympathy because he's a and by he's up by a day and up by night. both watching show night. both watching the show and on it. and and then reporting on it. and ben, let's be honest, there's been quite developments, been quite a few developments, not necessarily jungle, not necessarily in the jungle, but far as itv and but off it as far as itv and others are concerned. fill us in on the latest . on the latest. >> yeah, it seems to be more drama outside the jungle than there is inside at the moment. so yesterday it was revealed told itv news were planning to drop a story this weekend to coincide with the first eviction vote in the jungle that accused nigel farage of recording a video a couple of years ago for a customer on the video service cameo , which is where you cameo, which is where you basically pay celebrities £70 for a message that you write. they'll read it out. tends to be birthday messages or anniversary messages, things like that. anyway, nigel was duped into reading this message, which contained a rather obscure or offensive term which itv news
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were claiming was racist. it i can guarantee 90% of the audience would never have even heard of this term. i hadn't . heard of this term. i hadn't. and yeah, they were planning to drop it this weekend to kind of disgrace nigel and call him a bigot. basically um, nigel's team have come out and said that he never would have recorded the video if he knew what the term meant. he was just reading from a script and that dupes was a script and that word dupes was was but it's funny, was repeated. but it's funny, isn't it? it comes out just days after exclusively revealed after we exclusively revealed that nigel was being censored in terms of his conversation in the camp, his airtime was being reduced and it's no coincidence, as far as i'm concerned, that it was coming on the same weekend that the very first eviction votes came into play elsewhere . votes came into play elsewhere. a bit of housekeeping in the jungle. jamie lynn spears has left on medical grounds. she was crying pretty much every day in the camp because she was missing her children. and there was a massive row that kicked off in last night's episode. nigel again, locking horns with camp
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mates over brexit immigration and this time about cultural appropriation, where he pretty much said, i don't know what's allowed anymore. are we allowed to dress up as mexicans at fancy dress ? of course. he had dress parties? of course. he had a row with nella rose, the permanently gen permanently offended gen z youtuber who would probably find offence at winning the lottery. but this the moment where he but this was the moment where he locked locked horns nella next. >> right. rather like, you know , >> right. rather like, you know, you go a fancy dress party you go to a fancy dress party dressed as something and now the press will say it's cultural appropriation. >> like what? because if you was to do blackface, then it is wrong dressed as a mexican or whatever it is, you know. >> but yeah, you can't >> but yeah, because you can't take you can't use somebody culture a costume, as a fancy culture as a costume, as a fancy dress . dress. >> the mexican outfit is tradition to them. like that's what that's been in their in their in their culture for decades. that's why in america they don't dress up as native americans it's not americans because it's not a joke. yeah . joke. yeah. >> i don't know how people like
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nella rose. all these young kids survive live in the real world. they go through life looking for offence at everything , saying offence at everything, saying actually, it's come out overnight that ant and dec dressed up as mexicans for an i'm a celeb skit online. owen and nella, according to the bookies, she's now out to 150 to i bookies, she's now out to 150 to 1 to win the series. so bookies, she's now out to 150 to 1 to win the series . so viewers 1 to win the series. so viewers aren't liking her perma offended stance elsewhere. nigel is in tonight's trial , although he's tonight's trial, although he's been smashing his bushtucker trials recently, he downs drinks and whatever else with with ease pretty much he does come a bit of a cropper tonight. it's an underwater challenge. so all eyes on that . and as i said eyes on that. and as i said previously, the evictions start this weekend and one final thing. can i just pan to this amazing sunrise here on the gold coast? i'm going to show off on this one occasion because it's been raining pretty much every day for two weeks here. so yeah, i'm just going to delight you all with that beautiful scene
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from from the aussie coastline. but yeah , itv's planned hit job but yeah, itv's planned hit job not going to plan. i think anyone with an ounce of common sense can see that it's exactly that as a hit job on nigel and it's coincided to smear him and his time in the jungle because he is doing so well. >> ben thank you very much for that indeed . glad to see that that indeed. glad to see that you're soaking up some sun at last. it's a hard job, but somebody has got to do it. up next, we're going to be discussing banking discussing a latest banking spying scandal . would you like spying scandal. would you like the idea of your bank being able to have a look of your to have a look at all of your accounts they choose accounts whenever they choose and government do accounts whenever they choose and same? government do accounts whenever they choose and same? we'll government do accounts whenever they choose and same? we'll be government do accounts whenever they choose and same? we'll be discussingt do the same? we'll be discussing that in
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radio. >> welcome back to farage. with me, camilla tominey. now, before we talk about this bank spying scandal, let's speak to armando regil, a mexico entrepreneur and economist in new york city who
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is going to tell us whether he agrees with this suggestion that dressing up in a sombrero is culture. well, misappropriation . culture. well, misappropriation. armando, what's your view? should we be dressing up as mexicans or not? >> thank you very much . this is >> thank you very much. this is a great question of course i am a great question of course i am a great question of course i am a great advocate of freedom and i think every person should wear as he or she pleases and mexican wearing mexican is always a way of feeling proud of our own history, of our own culture, of our own traditions, sombreros are great. there are so many colours in the mexican, in the mexican clothes. so of course i think this is just nonsense . think this is just nonsense. but, you know, many people think that this kind of clothes sometimes offends the sensibilities of others , which i sensibilities of others, which i completely disagree . completely disagree. >> but also surely armando , the >> but also surely armando, the idea of people dressing as mexicans is meant to be embracing their culture really, and celebrating it as opposed to denigrating it.
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>> i think it's a way of celebrating. of course, denigrating is something that we should just forget about because every time we wear our mexican clothes, it's a way of honouring our own culture, our own traditions, our past, our history. and as i said , i just history. and as i said, ijust don't find well, you know, it's silly and funny that some people think otherwise , but of course, think otherwise, but of course, everyone is free of thinking whatever , whatever people want . whatever, whatever people want. >> okay, armando, thank you very much indeed forjoining us this much indeed for joining us this evening . give our love to the evening. give our love to the big apple. thank you very much. there have then. a there you have it then. well, a mexican says there's nothing wrong sombrero. wrong with wearing a sombrero. so let's from him now. so let's take it from him now. let's this banking so let's take it from him now. let's scandal1is banking so let's take it from him now. let's scandal, s banking so let's take it from him now. let's scandal, which .ing so let's take it from him now. let's scandal, which is; so let's take it from him now. let's scandal, which is quite spying scandal, which is quite astonishing , really. so a bank astonishing, really. so a bank spying clause has been added to the data protection and digital information bill. the last minute amendment would force banks to survey the accounts of welfare recipients and the people linked to those payments. to explain a bit more about what exactly happened , i'm joined
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exactly has happened, i'm joined now by mariano delli—santi, a legal and policy officer. mariano what's gone on here? who's tabled this amendment? it's come out of the blue, seemingly . seemingly. >> yes. so this was an amendment that was tabled by the government for the data protection reform , which was protection reform, which was first presented in november 2021. it has since gained widespread criticism for a number of reasons, including the extent of the powers that the government will be given to justify the collection of personal data of british citizens or residents . the citizens or residents. the government always said this was not a problem. however, what happenedis not a problem. however, what happened is with this amendment that we had, we had, first of all, 200, more than 230 amendments being presented, a couple of days before the debate in parliament. right mostly by the government and the amendment in question , the one about in question, the one about granting access to dwp or generally speaking , the
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generally speaking, the government to banking data is indeed quite concerning because fundamentally it's an amendment that gives a power for the government to have access to bank accounts or generally speaking, accounts linked to a financial institution. yes according to what the government believes, it is relevant for them in order to carry out a pubuc them in order to carry out a public task. it does so not only for the people who receive benefits, but also for the people who are linked with people who are linked with people who are linked with people who receive benefits. this mean members of this could mean members of family. could be anyone, family. this could be anyone, tenants you know what i mean? >> my understanding is previously the dwp needed to have some evidence of perhaps fraudulent activity in order to ask banks to release the accounts of individuals. but this seems to be suggesting that there don't need to be any reasonable grounds for suspicion at all, that these bank accounts can just be handed over to the government. >> indeed. >> indeed. >> and the way the government has presented these amendments isindeed has presented these amendments is indeed to make those checks
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regular checks. so fundamentally , the government wants the power to be routinely scrutinising what is going on in your bank account and possibly take action if they believe there is a suspicion of fraud coming from those activities. >> i mean, how sinister do you think this is? you know, we very used to these days, i think being spied upon , big brother being spied upon, big brother cctv, the information we put onune cctv, the information we put online devices seemingly listening to us, but actually looking into our bank affairs without reasonable justification or cause strikes me as being very orwellian. >> well, i mean, speaking about what the law is supposed to do in a democratic country is to put boundaries in terms of what the government is or is not allowed to do when they exercise their powers and what this bill will do is exactly to put such boundanes will do is exactly to put such boundaries which are so big and so extend to a point where they become meaningless. i mean, like, what is it that is not relevant for checking if you're committing a fraud? what is it that who is not linked to
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somebody who is receiving benefits in a more let's say general terms, i guess it's this law treats everybody as a suspect and it shouldn't be, let's say, up to you to prove that you're innocent, that the government shouldn't stick their nose into your bank account, but it should be the government it should be for the government to justify why they want to have access to bank account, access to your bank account, although, with although, as we've learned with the of this show the esteemed host of this show who in the jungle, who is currently in the jungle, banks to think that they banks seem to think that they can about can say anything about anyone and that can say anything about anyone and like that can say anything about anyone and like without that can say anything about anyone and like without due that can say anything about anyone and like without due cause.t they like without due cause. >> mariano, thank >> anyway, mariano, thank you for that for filling us in on that aspect. sarah dines , the mp for aspect. sarah dines, the mp for derbyshire dales. i'm going to bnng derbyshire dales. i'm going to bring you into the conversation because know you raised because i know you raised banking general rishi banking in general with rishi sunak pmqs. what's happened sunak at pmqs. what's happened in your constituency ? well, i'm in your constituency? well, i'm very concerned. >> i represent the fabulous derbyshire dales, which is a wonderful tourist place , but it wonderful tourist place, but it also is home to a lot of elderly people a lot of rural people and a lot of rural economic businesses . economic businesses. >> and what the national westminster bank have done without any consultation , which
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without any consultation, which isn't acceptable for a bank where the public owns 39% of the shares is they've just announced they're closing it. no consultation , and that's it, consultation, and that's it, which will lead the whole of the peak district without a single high street bank. >> no, it's the whole of the peak district. yes >> and don't forget, we have 13 million people visit the peak district. they come buy district. they all come and buy fudge. come and buy fudge. they come and buy bakewell puddings bakewell bakewell puddings in bakewell bakewell puddings in bakewell bakewell they come with bakewell tarts. they come with cash. bakewell tarts. they come with cash . so do small cash. so what do the small business people do? derbyshire dales is full of small entrepreneurs and not a lot of them aren't very good online. i'm not against going online. it's great for people in the cities and it's great for people that have wi—fi. unfortunately, broadband not great. we're broadband is not great. we're one of the areas where the government's having to subsidise rollout proper services. so rollout of proper services. so it's arrogant it's extraordinarily arrogant with respect for a big bank, just to do that. and bearing in mind the public owned 39% of the shares, it's extraordinary. they didn't even bother to talk to the member of parliament. >> fair, natwest's >> to be fair, natwest's justification for this will be
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that they don't have much footfall in that particular branch, that more are branch, that more people are going there are going online, that there are different bank these different ways to bank these days. different ways to bank these days . you amazingly, you days. you know, amazingly, you can check now, can't can cash a check now, can't you, through mobile phone ? i through your own mobile phone? i mean, a point on that. mean, they have a point on that. but you're saying, well, that's great people, but great for younger people, but what about the elderly vulnerable? >> i vulnerable? » n vulnerable? >> n i've had >> absolutely. i mean, i've had my inbox, obviously as a constituent mp is full of fraud cases. constituent mp is full of fraud cases . i've constituent mp is full of fraud cases. i've had constituent mp is full of fraud cases . i've had elderly people, cases. i've had elderly people, one lost £37,000 online and will never use online again. what do you say to my 85 year olds, my 90 year olds? we really need to be proportionate about how we treat the public and the country isn't just the metropolitan bubble . yes, and even natwest's bubble. yes, and even natwest's own inquiries, which they've shown me after their decision, is that there's about 60% of people are online for banking. well, that means there's 40% that aren't. what are they supposed to do with their with their money? it's quite a scary and an arrogant development. so i'm very disappointed. i'd ask them to look at it again an i
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know they have sensible people at natwest at least i hope they do and i hope they look at it again because derbyshire dales is special place and the is a very special place and the peak district, it cannot just be compared to other parts of the uk and it's almost as if the average person in the rest of the country that doesn't live in a city is almost forgotten now. yes. >> do you think that the is >> do you think that the pm is taking this seriously? you're not we did a story not the only one. we did a story today on the telegraph about barclays in barclays closing a branch in hove and instead having customers go to a graveyard and maintain face to face banking services via a van in a graveyard. apparently this is a temporary measure . we can see temporary measure. we can see the van now on the screen. look at that. go and bank in a graveyard. i mean, what elderly person wouldn't want to do their banking this way? sarah but do you think the pm is taking it seriously enough? >> i've had >> well, i've had i've had a discussion him about it and discussion with him about it and of course he looks at what the regulatory regime is and the suggestion that you can use the post office. but i have to say i have one constituent whose son
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died as an adult and had a lot of stuff to sort out, of course. and if you think you could do that over the telephone, sometimes with somebody who engush sometimes with somebody who english may not good as english may not be as good as our english, it's just not really the sort of service. and can i mention one human story to really quickly? i was very touched there were the touched that there were the memorials for people who've died in world yes over the in both world wars. yes over the whole of the peak district . whole of the peak district. every time closed a every time they've closed a branch, gone to this branch, it's gone to this last branch. what do we do with branch. yes. what do we do with the 5 or 6 genuine memorials ? is the 5 or 6 genuine memorials? is there going to be sent somewhere else ? else? >> unkind is that? so >> how unkind is that? so i think if you close a bank down in high street, you kill the in a high street, you kill the high which another high street, which is another problem. have problem. absolutely. we have to leave it there, sarah. dan's mariano you mariano delli—santi, thank you very discussing very much indeed for discussing two issues to us, two important issues to us, because, of course, we've got our don't kill cash campaign still running and still gaining momentum. let's move on to momentum. now let's move on to a different story entirely . we different story entirely. we have covered it this week, but there development the there is a development in the story game , the royal story of end game, the royal book by omid scobie . so book written by omid scobie. so
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a publisher, we discussed a dutch publisher, we discussed this briefly last night, but let's little bit more let's get a little bit more detail it. a publisher detail on it. a dutch publisher has pulp copies, naming has had to pulp copies, naming two alleged royal racist acas. the author, omid scobie, suggests a translation suggests it's a translation error . but if suggests it's a translation error. but if the pair weren't named in the english version, i can't quite work how they've can't quite work out how they've ended dutch one. it ended up in the dutch one. it does after scobie bragged does come after scobie bragged on he named the he on us tv that he named the he knew names of both alleged knew the names of both alleged racists. so it's a bit of a mystery this let's see if femi nylander, activist and nylander, an activist and a regular to gb news, can help clear up some of this confusion for me. you'll be familiar with the initial allegation . it was the initial allegation. it was made by meghan on oprah winfrey back in the day when they appeared in that bombshell interview where it was suggested that a royal had made a comment about her and harry's unborn child's skin tone. clearly, there was a degree of curiosity as to what the baby might look like with a mixed race mother and a ginger haired father. like with a mixed race mother and a ginger haired father . and and a ginger haired father. and this comment was made , femi, this comment was made, femi, clear this up for me .
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this comment was made, femi, clear this up for me. is this the kind of discussion that takes place between a black and mixed race parents as to what their children look like or do you perceive it to be racist ? you perceive it to be racist? >> i mean, you just have to look at the history of the comments made by some members of the royal family and then make your own judgement. prince own judgement. i mean, prince prince philip, prince prince philip, late prince philip was about chinese philip was talked about chinese students having slitty eyes as he talked about spear throwing natives. he made loads of racist comments, all of it. he was known for it, going around making gaffes, i.e. racist comments. it's an institution which is based on the idea of kind of conquest and empire and um , it's clear to me that that um, it's clear to me that that talking about a triviality as to whether or not archie's skin colour was this or that, the rest, the royal family is rooted in the idea of racism is it's part it's part and parcel to the royal family. >> so they would deny that kind of they would deny that for me. >> mean, we heard from prince >> i mean, we heard from prince william, we, the william, didn't we, in the aftermath interview,
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aftermath of the interview, saying we're very much not a racist i think the king racist family. i think the king would point to the would point to some of the multi—faith, multi diverse events being multi—faith, multi diverse ev the being multi—faith, multi diverse evthe helm being multi—faith, multi diverse evthe helm of being multi—faith, multi diverse evthe helm of his being multi—faith, multi diverse evthe helm of his coronation1g at the helm of his coronation and all the rest of it. however there just on that point of discussing skin tone skin discussing skin tone is skin tone discussed by black and mixed race couples or. not >> most black and mixed race couples most kind of people who have a black person and a white person will not go and pontificate over what colour their child is going to come out because they've entered a consensual agreement between two people. if i was to marry someone who was white, it's pretty that kid is not pretty clear that my kid is not going look very like white. going to look very like white. i am a quarter white. my grandma is more white than you. she's from borrodale. however i look phenotypically very black because of the way genetics work is the way genetics work. my little brother looks a lot lighter than me. people know this when they go in. but if the. if the granddad, then goes, oh, i wonder what wonder what oh, i wonder what i wonder what um. he's to um. i wonder if he's going to be a dark. kid, my grandson.
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a bit dark. my kid, my grandson. then starts become bit then it starts to become a bit weird. why are people in the family pontificating over the family pontificating of over the first member of the royal family who going to be lily who is not going to be lily white and worrying or pondering or asking questions about what kind of skin skin tone they're going to have? why does that matter? it might not have been worrying. >> it might have just been curiosity. femi final question. do think that that these two do you think that that these two alleged royal racists should be named in the public interest? >> um , i mean, i think that. oh, >> um, i mean, i think that. oh, for me, i've lost you . for me, i've lost you. >> i've lost your sound. we won't get that answer. i mean, for legal reasons, of course we can't name them, but it does has the problem doesn't it, that if you them then you don't name them then everyone's pointing finger you don't name them then ev everybody>inting finger you don't name them then ev everybody inting finger you don't name them then ev everybody in the finger you don't name them then ev everybody in the royal1ger you don't name them then ev everybody in the royal family at everybody in the royal family let's see if femi is back with us. can you hear me? femi, us. femi, can you hear me? femi, can you hear me? very quick answer . can you hear me? very quick answer. should should answer. should we name should these racists , allegedly these these racists, allegedly these royal racists, named yes or
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no? >> um , i mean, there's no legal >> um, i mean, there's no legal reason to. >> but i do think that harry and meghan should. should i mean, if someone makes a racist comment, i'll if i'll happily out them. if someone someone makes someone or if someone makes a comment which is said to possibly racist, happily possibly be racist, i'll happily say but i mean, say who it is. um, but i mean, obviously we don't know who they are. i think why are. um, but yeah, i think why shouldn't know that shouldn't we know who made that comment? >> femi nylander, thank >> okay. femi nylander, thank you me you very much for joining me this know, this evening. now, as you know, we the farage we have a what, the farage moment every night on this show, which have cam .you which i have renamed cam. you believe and i was watching believe it. and i was watching parliament tv, you do , parliament tv, as you do, catching up on home affairs catching up on a home affairs select committee earlier today. and pop up. but our and who should pop up. but our very own lee anderson , my fellow very own lee anderson, my fellow news who was quizzing news presenter who was quizzing home office officials about whether they knew where different people were that had been let into the country. now, john reid, former home secretary, said back in 2006, the home office is not fit for purpose. can you believe the following exchange, which i'm going to play you now ? going to play you now? >> what foreign offenders aside died and albanians aside, just
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forget about those numbers. how many people are travelling on small boats? has been refused asylum , have been sent to a asylum, have been sent to a third country or back to their own country of the past three years . years. >> i don't think we have. >> i don't think we have. >> i don't think we have. >> i don't think we'll write to the committee with those numbers. >> mr anderson. >> mr anderson. >> that's quite staggering. that's actually a very. so okay, then let's do it. for the last year. yeah >>i yeah >> i don't have a number for non—albanian non flows. >> perhaps they might be able to help you. >> let's do last week then . >> let's do last week then. >> let's do last week then. >> do we have any figures about anything ? anything? >> yes . >> yes. >> yes. >> the last six months. just how many in the last six months? >> as said there are chart of flights and other ways of doing returns the whole time constantly. and we can we can give you whatever whatever timeline you'd like. >> have you ever heard anything like it in your life?
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>> these are the people in charge of the home office who don't seem to know to wear a load of asylum seekers who haven't been granted asylum. actually are. can you believe it? what the farage and all the rest of it. now, after this, we're going to be asking, as rishi sunak lost his marbles , rishi sunak lost his marbles, we're going to be discussing, of course , the argument with the course, the argument with the greek counterpart about what happens to the elgin marbles in the future. stay tuned for that
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welcome back to farage with me, camilla tominey. right, let's discuss whether the prime minister may have lost his marbles. rishi sunak is escalate amid the row over the elgin marbles by accusing his greek opposite number, kyriakos mitsotakis of grand standing over the issue. this is what he said in pmqs earlier today when it was clear that the purpose of
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a meeting was not to discuss substantive issues for the future, but rather to grandstand and relitigate issues of the past. >> it was an appropriate but furthermore, furthermore, furthermore, furthermore, furthermore , when specific furthermore, when specific commitments and specific assurances on that topic were made to this country and then were broken , it may seem alien were broken, it may seem alien to him , but my view is when to him, but my view is when people make commitments , they people make commitments, they should keep them there. >> you have it from the prime minister. gb news is reporter adam cherry headed over to the british museum earlier to ask the important question . has the important question. has rishi sunak lost his marbles ? rishi sunak lost his marbles? >> rishi sunak had cancelled his meeting with the greek prime minister. no, he shouldn't. why not? get this sorted out? has he lost his marbles? >> he may have done, i think it's pathetic . it's absolutely pathetic. >> absolutely pathetic . why not >> absolutely pathetic. why not meet the prime minister more of an important european country ? an important european country? >> we sing the marbles should go back to. >> they should go back. why do
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you think they should go back? >> because they were robbed. >> because they were robbed. >> should the marbles here >> should the marbles stay here in the british or should in the british museum or should they greece ? they be in greece? >> i suppose. really they do belong to greece, don't they ? belong to greece, don't they? >> probably in greece. there's a lot of stuff in there that probably shouldn't be in there. >> was a long time let's >> it was a long time ago. let's face it. and you start giving things like that back and then you where do you end? >> i would have definitely gone to the meeting, you know , i to the meeting, you know, i can't go wrong. >> i should have should have met him. >> really? yeah. yeah >> really? yeah. yeah >> you're not going to get anything out about cancelling . anything out about cancelling. you're to get any you're not going to get any resolution you. are resolution there are you. are you at you going to do is dictate at where so they need where keeping them so they need to some compromise to come to some compromise somewhere and do somewhere along the line. and do you was wrong? you think that was wrong? >> do you think he should have met? >> do you think he should have me' it very wrong. >> it was very wrong. >> it was very wrong. >> would say rishi sunak >> would you say rishi sunak lost marbles this morning? lost his marbles this morning? >> i would say lost >> many. i would say he's lost his marbles. yeah definitely. there's always time for a politician lose their marbles politician to lose their marbles as rishi sunak lost his marbles. >> answering that . >> i'm not answering that. >> i'm not answering that. >> well, let's see if roger
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michael, executive director of the institute for digital archaeology, will answer the question . has rishi sunak lost question. has rishi sunak lost his marbles ? his marbles? >> you know, look, if that was politicking that we just at politicking that we just saw at some worst politicking some of the worst politicking i've ever seen, i've talked to lots in greece today. i've ever seen, i've talked to lotshe's in greece today. i've ever seen, i've talked to lotshe's mosteece today. i've ever seen, i've talked to lotshe's mosteece tod.guy in >> he's the most popular guy in greece morning . i mean, he greece this morning. i mean, he took an issue faded took an issue that had faded from headlines and put it from the headlines and put it back pages all back on the front pages of all the national telegraph the national dailies. telegraph writes yet another editorial in favour of repatriate nation. he's the room . he's just not reading the room. i has been the case i mean, this has been the case with sunak from the with rishi sunak from the beginning. look, if he's a conservative, thinking, conservative, if he's thinking, okay, about okay, conservatism, it's about things have to stay the same. yes. level. but yes. at some level. but conservatism is always built on nationalism, pride and nationalism, national pride and greek sculptures and the british museum is not about british national pride. that's greek national pride. that's greek national pride. that's greek national pride . he's just not national pride. he's just not getting it. and polls getting it. and the polls reflect that. >> us of the history >> just remind us of the history of this. lord elgin goes in in 1816, takes these marbles. he thinks that he's done it legally. and in fact , the legally. and in fact, the british consensus is that it was a legal act and that we're entitled to keep them. >> well, i mean, that that's
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that's really not with all due respect , that's not really the respect, that's not really the history. the history that history. the history is that lord elgin cahoots with a lord elgin in cahoots with a couple his friends in couple of his friends in government, hey, government, decided that, hey, we've opportunity here. we've got an opportunity here. there's athens. the there's disarray in athens. the turks here. breaking turks are here. they're breaking stuff one's really in stuff up. no one's really in charge. we can spirit these things the country and things out of the country and letters discovered in the in the elgin as recently as elgin archive as recently as last support they last year support this 100. they hatched a plan to bring these things back to england and to sell as garden ornaments sell these as garden ornaments to friends. and they to their rich friends. and they hope bundle of money hope to make a bundle of money out castlereagh house out of it. and castlereagh house his his good friend, foreign minister, them minister, arranged to bring them into no duties into the country with no duties paid. together to paid. and then together they to hope fortune by selling hope make a fortune by selling these marbles . unfortunately, these marbles. unfortunately, these marbles. unfortunately, the as the market the market changed as the market for and over for antiquities up and down over the last years went through the last 200 years went through the last 200 years went through the floor and it took them ten years to sell these things. in the end, they couldn't do it. and so castlereagh again came to his aid got parliament to his aid and got parliament to reach and pay reach into their pockets and pay for things. this for these things. so this was always a scam from the always a it was a scam from the beginning. a scam beginning. it was a scam straightway was straightway through and it was a scam. parliament paid scam. when parliament paid elgin
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the that he had the money that he that he had laid out ostensibly. >> me devil's >> so let me play devil's advocate, because you've spoken about conserve about the need to conserve as the and about the need to conserve as the seems and about the need to conserve as the seems to and about the need to conserve as the seems to be and about the need to conserve as the seems to be the and about the need to conserve as the seems to be the primed that seems to be the prime minister's position . i mean, you minister's position. i mean, you could we give the could argue that if we give the marbles then thin marbles back, it's then the thin end the wedge. what else end of the wedge. what else needs to be repatriated to other countries ? isn't quite nice countries? isn't it quite nice to artefacts from different to have artefacts from different countries different countries countries in different countries to sure that as many people to make sure that as many people as can see them when as possible can see them when they serve useful purpose? they serve a useful purpose? >> the reality is >> absolutely. the reality is when walk into that when people walk into that duveen they are not duveen gallery, they are not seeing the greece of antiquity. they are a fantasy. when they are seeing a fantasy. when those from those sculptures emerge from phidias were phidias studio, they were brightly had brightly painted. they had all their they brightly painted. they had all their architectural they brightly painted. they had all their architectural ornaments . were architectural ornaments. they were meant to exist in a particular . when you see particular context. when you see these pieces of these these these pieces of sculpture denuded of their colour, denuded of arms and legs and faces and, and dropped on the floor of this, of this sad little little little gallery, dark little flooded in the british flooded gallery in the british museum. doesn't not museum. it doesn't just not teach about antiquity. it teach you about antiquity. it teaches of the teaches you the opposite of the truth . we lay on truth about antiquity. we lay on top that that every top of that the fact that every ultra nationalist organisation, including nazi germany,
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exploited whiteness , the exploited the whiteness, the artificial whiteness of these objects political purposes, objects for political purposes, and good reason to and there's no good reason to care about the thin end of the wedge argument. they've got 6.5 million believe me, million objects believe me, repatriating this 153 objects is not going to impact a their ability to do what they're setting out to do, teach people about the aesthetics of ancient greece or more generally, show show art in context. greece is willing to offer in return some really extraordinary things, including the agamemnon mask. i mean, these are real treasures that do people that in fact do teach people about the aesthetics of antiquity. british museum antiquity. the british museum could much job if could do a much betterjob if they deal that george they took the deal that george osborne's well, they took the deal that george osb> very nice to you and you've been outspoken about
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been quite outspoken about immigration in last 24 hours. >> and you've said you >> and you've said that you think the government think that if the government doesn't solve this issue, it's going electorally going to be electorally disastrous for them. >> well, it's obviously difficult we tens difficult that we promise tens of thousands in 2010. we reiterate , made a promise to reiterate, made a promise to control migration in 2019. and we had 1.4 million people arrive in two years. at the end of june 2023. now, this just isn't good enough. we can't promise voters one thing and fail to deliver it. and legal migration is much, much easier to deal with than illegal. it's simply a matter of statutory instruments and government regulation had made that point in the house yesterday that he have yesterday that he would have introduced measures last introduced these measures last christmas he had choice christmas if he had a choice which that which seemed to suggest that number blocking number 10 keeps on blocking this. i don't know what's this. well, i don't know what's going on number 10 and going on between number 10 and ministers. tell me. ministers. they don't tell me. shane you tell who shane why don't you tell me who you've got up on your you've got coming up on your show what going be covering? >> well, what i'm to >> well, what i'm going to be talking start with is talking about to start with is we promise from rishi talking about to start with is we that promise from rishi talking about to start with is we that we)mise from rishi talking about to start with is we that we were from rishi talking about to start with is we that we were going rishi talking about to start with is we that we were going to hi sunak that we were going to allow petrol cars carry on, allow petrol cars to carry on, and had a regulation and then we had a regulation in
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the house of commons this morning to stop it pretty much in don't understand what's >> so i don't understand what's going >> so i don't understand what's goiino, don't and >> no, i don't either. and anything else? >> well, that's going the >> well, that's going to be the main thing. also to main thing. we're also going to talk jungle mr talk about the jungle and mr farage talk about jungle. farage talk about the jungle. well, programme. well, i watched the programme. i thought as thought it was as dull as dishwater. understand dishwater. i cannot understand why tunes brilliant. why anybody tunes in. brilliant. >> stay tuned for jacob discussing things discussing all things jungle related. tomorrow related. i'll be back tomorrow night ever . related. i'll be back tomorrow night ever. but night at seven. as ever. but first of all, here's the weather before on air. before jacob comes on air. >> looks like things are heating up. boxed boilers are sponsors of weather on . gb news. of weather on. gb news. >> good evening . welcome to your >> good evening. welcome to your latest gb news weather update from the met office thursday will be another cold day. there's still some dry and sunny weather to be had , but we do weather to be had, but we do also have some snow and ice warnings in force for thursday morning across the northeast. we could see some snow showers continuing throughout tonight, but the south—west but it's across the south—west where area of rain will where this area of rain will push up from the south, bumping into the air, bringing some into the cold air, bringing some snow southern mainly
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snow to southern areas, mainly across the high ground of devon and cornwall. but could and cornwall. but we could see a dusting of snow as far east as parts of wiltshire. so potentially snow and ice potentially some snow and ice out there tomorrow morning. there's also an ice risk across parts of northern ireland as well. it will be a cold well. and it will be a cold start once again, a colder start than this morning. tomorrow morning, the snow showers will continue across northeastern areas throughout thursday. this areas throughout thursday. this area of rain, sleet and snow will continue to affect the far southwest as well through much of the day before it does then sink southwards into the evening in between, though, we've got a good deal of sunshine. it will be feeling cold, though. temperatures reaching temperatures still only reaching 3 or degrees for many areas . 3 or 4 degrees for many areas. some areas scotland sticking some areas of scotland sticking with all day. so another with a frost all day. so another very cold start to friday, much of that rain has now cleared the south, but we will see some patches of freezing fog around these could be quite slow to clear throughout friday. and elsewhere, though, a good amount of sunshine once again, a bit more sunshine to come throughout saturday sunday and the
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saturday and sunday and the temperatures start rise temperatures could start to rise a the south by the end a little in the south by the end of weekend. >> brighter outlook with >> and a brighter outlook with boxed solar sponsors of weather on .
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gb news. >> hello. good evening. it's me, jacob rees—mogg on state of the nafion jacob rees—mogg on state of the nation tonight in spite of promises from the prime minister that the war on the motorist would end, it's alive and kicking. we were promised a delay on the ban of new petrol and diesel cars, but today's legislate legerdemain will effectively impose the ban as the government slipped through secondary legislation with minimal scrutiny. now, apparently that blighter scobie has accidental in inverted commas, revealed the alleged royal racist in a dutch translation of his attention seeking new pamphlet endgame. but as this is surely yet
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another publicity scam, surely, hopefully , it's end game for mr hopefully, it's end game for mr scobie. why while the eu admits defeat after hopes of stealing half of london city workers in a post—brexit world, the president of the eu, ursula von der leyen, has called on the uk to come back under her control. i will be making a counter offer to the former german defence minister. plus, as i told the estimable mr christie's last night, i'm a celebrity's eye wateringly boring, especially because they insist on not giving more airtime to the only contestant that really matters the great nigel farage. tonight, however, apparently nigel will be taking centre stage in a bushtucker trial , whatever that may centre stage in a bushtucker trial, whatever that may be. here's a taster of what to expect . down he goes . expect. down he goes. >> she shaking his head. >> she shaking his head. >> it's tricky . >> it's tricky. >> it's tricky. >> it's tricky. >> it's hard to get down there. can't get purchase on anything.
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