tv Patrick Christys Tonight GB News November 29, 2023 9:00pm-11:01pm GMT
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is staggering. finds is staggering. >> we all find it staggering. but lee anderson joins me shortly. tonight's clash is cultural appropriation actually a bad thing? is dressing like a mexican offensive or are people a little bit too touchy ? and i a little bit too touchy? and i ask, should the royal family sue sussex mouthpiece omid scobie after the alleged racist it's royals were revealed and it's all go . and on my panel tonight all go. and on my panel tonight is the top team of christine hamilton, adam brooks and matthew matthew laza. this is patrick christys tonight. and we're live . we're live. loads to go out there, but email me, are people too touchy on cultural appropriation? easy for me to say. gb views at gb views .com. go to twitter at gb news. we get stuck in after the headunes we get stuck in after the headlines as. we get stuck in after the headlines as . patrick. headlines as. patrick. >> thank you. good evening . and
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>> thank you. good evening. and the top story from the newsroom tonight . and it's breaking news. tonight. and it's breaking news. ten more israeli hostages have been handed over to the international red cross in gaza. it marks the final day of a two day extension of the truce in the israel hamas war. two of the hostages, both believed to be russians, are now in israel with idf special forces keeping an eye on events in the middle east for you throughout the evening here on gb news. we are expecting the release of palestinian prisoners as well later evening . well, later on this evening. well, here in the uk, sir keir starmer says government is to blame says the government is to blame for record migration numbers as he promised to scrap laws that allows workers from overseas to be paid less than british workers . the prime minister be paid less than british workers. the prime minister and the labour leader clashed during pmqs with sir keir starmer, reminding mps of the government's promise to reduce legal migration back in 2019, when rishi sunak conceded that immigration levels are too high. but he insists the number is coming down. well elton john was
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in parliament today and he was talking about a new project which aims to end all new transmission of hiv in england by 2030. he highlighted plans for hiv testing in a&e departments to be increased in a bid to detect the virus in people who might not otherwise be tested. experts say more than 4000 people in england are believed to be living with the virus without knowing health and social care. secretary victoria atkins said it's an important step towards eradicating hiv. >> we've seen from the scheme that has already rolled out across the highest prevalence areas that thousands of people can be helped with this. these early diagnoses and then they can be given the support and the medical treatment they need to lead not just longer lives, but also high quality lives . also high quality lives. >> nottingham city council says it's in severe financial distress and is unable to deliver a balanced budget . east deliver a balanced budget. east midlands reporter will hollis
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has more. >> nottingham city council has today announced that it cannot balance its budget and the chief financial officer has issued a section 1.14 notice effectively declaring bankruptcy. that means that the labour led authority from today can only spend money on statutory services. those are things like education for roads , things like education for roads, for children's services . now the for children's services. now the council must meet within 21 days to discuss what measures they will be putting in place. the council has already spent a number of years struggling with its finances and today it has really come to a head. will hollis now you may have noticed there's a bit of a nip in the air. >> it's set to be another cold one as well tonight with widespread said frost and freezing fog affecting large sections of the uk. yorkshire has already seen some wintry showers evening, showers this evening, particularly along the north—east coast. that belt now moving inland as the evening
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progresses snow has progresses and snow has continued to fall across scotland and northumberland and more is on the way. a yellow weather warning is in place from tomorrow until friday with temperatures expected to drop to —three degrees celsius, maybe even minus for rural parts of scotland could reach lows of minus eight. but the met office saying it is too early to predict a white christmas . on tv predict a white christmas. on tv online dab+ radio and the tune—in app. this is gb news, britain's news channel . britain's news channel. >> all right, welcome along. now a terror attack in the uk linked to the conflict in gaza is likely only a matter of time. security sources have told gb news it comes as counter—terror police warn the public to remain extra vigilant in the run up to christmas. scotland yard's head of counter terror policing says there is no specific intelligence of any planned attack, but calls to the
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anti—terror hotline have risen 700% since the conflict in the middle east began on the 7th of october. well i am taking a look now along with our home security edhon now along with our home security editor, mark white, about how likely terror attacks are in the run up to christmas , what it run up to christmas, what it means to people looking to attend things like christmas markets, winter wonderland events, etcetera, asking the events, etcetera, and asking the serious question why, oh, why haven't we pre—emptively raised our terror threat to severe gb news home security editor mark white reports on the latest on patrol with a counter terror team in central london. >> these officers are from operation servator , a mix of operation servator, a mix of uniformed and covert plain clothes teams . clothes teams. >> we've got a lot of plainclothes officers working in the area, so just keep people safe. >> on the build up to christmas. >> on the build up to christmas. >> you anyone staring >> so if you see anyone staring at well as engaging at you and as well as engaging with public, these with the public, these patrols are for anything suspicious. >> is anything out the >> is anything out of the ordinary ? see, especially
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ordinary? see, especially over the busy festive period , george the busy festive period, george gather at christmas . gather at christmas. >> both our families, we go shopping . we visit events like shopping. we visit events like winter wonderland . we got busy. winter wonderland. we got busy. one of the busiest shopping streets in europe behind us obviously draws a lot of people in. and we ask members of the pubuc in. and we ask members of the public as they're shopping in these areas, enjoying themselves as be, they remain as they should be, they remain vigilant as well . vigilant as well. >> understandable >> there is understandable concern that the war in gaza could be the catalyst for terror attacks here in the uk . in attacks here in the uk. in recent weeks, the alert levels in france and belgium have been raised after a separate terror attacks in those countries . attacks in those countries. >> as these british transport police officers have also increased their counter terror patrols in the run up to christmas . christmas. >> although the uk terror threat level has not yet been raised by counter—terror, police have seen a 700% increase in calls to the anti—terror hotline since the
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start of the israel hamas conflict. we've seen in the past events overseas often can lead to radicalisation of individuals here, and we're very alive to that. >> and we've seen an increase in prevent referrals and we've seen a particular increase in the amount of online extremism material referred to us. we're now over reports the now over 2500 reports from the pubuc now over 2500 reports from the public to the counter terrorism internet referral unit . over 500 internet referral unit. over 500 of those require more investigation to understand whether there's been hate whether there's been a hate crime terrorism act offence crime or a terrorism act offence committed . the festive period committed. the festive period not only has added symbolism in the twisted logic of terrorists, it is also a time when people are much more likely to gather in larger crowds, attend special events or christmas shopping . events or christmas shopping. and lone wolf attacks , or those and lone wolf attacks, or those of lower sophistication often can be just as deadly and require little in the way of planning. >> well, sadly , it may only be
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>> well, sadly, it may only be a matter of time before we have a terrorist incident within the uk. >> we've seen them across europe and of course with the tensions in the middle east. that's something that really could cause problems within the uk as well. people are getting radicalised, there's no doubt about the police have been about that. the police have been informed people are informed that people are becoming radicalised. they don't need in order to get need training in order to get into a car a knife. so into a car or use a knife. so it's a real concern for policing across the uk. it's a real concern for policing acr> that was mark white's exclusive package here on patrick christys tonight. i'm going to get the views of my panel on this now. author and broadcaster christine hamilton, businessman and activist adam brooks, and former labour party adviser matthew christina, i'll start with you. do you think we should just be raising our
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terror threat to its highest level? france has . belgium has. level? france has. belgium has. what are we waiting for? >> well, what are we waiting for? the main is whether for? the main thing is whether they've it and announced they've raised it and announced they've raised it and announced they've or not. they've raised it and announced the what or not. they've raised it and announced the what i or not. they've raised it and announced the what i hope or not. they've raised it and announced the what i hope is not. they've raised it and announced the what i hope is that they are >> what i hope is that they are raising themselves. raising it themselves. >> it's going to happen, >> i mean, it's going to happen, isn't it? >> w- e“- e“— e later , we simply >> sooner or later, we simply can't avoid it in opinion, as can't avoid it in my opinion, as just question of when how can't avoid it in my opinion, as just how estion of when how can't avoid it in my opinion, as just how many of when how can't avoid it in my opinion, as just how many peoplen how can't avoid it in my opinion, as just how many people . how can't avoid it in my opinion, as just how many people . the how can't avoid it in my opinion, as just how many people . the trouble and how many people. the trouble is, not only do we already have home grown terrorists , we have home grown terrorists, we have the report has just said we've had people who are being radicalised and we have been importing people. let's be honest, no they honest, we have no idea who they are. a lot of people from other countries, we have no idea of their background. if we haven't been terrorists, then been importing terrorists, then i'm pope. i think it's only i'm the pope. i think it's only a question of time, which i think is terrible. but the government, the very first duty of government is to protect government, the very first duty of citizens. rnment is to protect government, the very first duty of citizens. so, ent is to protect government, the very first duty of citizens. so, yes, s to protect government, the very first duty of citizens. so, yes, they 3rotect its citizens. so, yes, they should ramping up. they should be ramping it up. they should be ramping it up. they should be ramping it up. they should be making sure that big events are protected. know, events are protected. you know, street barriers goodness street barriers and goodness knows people knows what where people are going gather christmas. going to gather at christmas. i mean, terrible because it mean, it's terrible because it neednt mean, it's terrible because it needn't be the biggest christmas market it be
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market in london. it could be somewhere. name somewhere. let's not name anywhere, be anywhere, but it could be somewhere sticks. it somewhere out in the sticks. it would as terrible and would be just as terrible and much difficult to predict. much more difficult to predict. >> is. okay, so >> the word there is. okay, so 700% increase in the number of calls to the counter—terror hotline since hamas invaded israel on october 7 and that an attack now is simply a matter of time . adam, just get that threat time. adam, just get that threat level raised, get more of a police presence, more armed police presence, more armed police out there, do everything that we can surely. how depressed that we're sitting here talking about this. >> you know, again, i've got three young children. i don't want to take up london because i'm something i'm pretty scared of something happening. know, it's bleak. happening. you know, it's bleak. >> bleak . and this isn't >> it's bleak. and this isn't just because of gaza and israel and the palestinians. >> this is been going on for many , many years. there are many, many years. there are 45,000 on the uk terror watch list, of which 40,000 are islamist terror suspects . now, islamist terror suspects. now, it's too late to tackle this. it's going to happen . it's going it's going to happen. it's going to be bad. and events like this
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around the world will spark even more. >> yeah, i mean , one thing i >> yeah, i mean, one thing i will say this is vitally important. the reason why we wanted to bring you this package is because mark white, our home security does a huge amount of good and we wanted try good work and we wanted to try to much information to bring you as much information as possibly could. december to bring you as much information as basically bly could. december to bring you as much information asbasically upon�*uld. december to bring you as much information asbasically upon�*uld.christmasr is basically upon us. christmas parties, christmas events, things winter wonderland things like winter wonderland and just wanted to and stuff. and we just wanted to try bring you a bit of try to bring you a bit of information really about the state moment. state of play at the moment. our security stop more security forces do stop more attacks than we will ever know about. and it important to about. and it is important to say don't want people say that i don't want people shackled couches with say that i don't want people shabolti couches with say that i don't want people shabolt in couches with say that i don't want people shabolt in dooruches with say that i don't want people shabolt in door shut; with say that i don't want people shabolt in door shut thish the bolt in the door shut this christmas. at something christmas. looking at something like and being absolutely like that and being absolutely terrified. do be terrified. but we do have to be honest there clearly honest with you, there clearly is threat out there is a massive threat out there and worried about it. and they are worried about it. matthew, know, do you matthew, you know, how do you feel this idea of hoiking, feel about this idea of hoiking, that terror threat up? >> well, i'm less concerned about the terror threat in terms of the wording. you know , the of the wording. you know, the word used, because i think people necessarily take people don't necessarily take nofice people don't necessarily take notice that. notice of that. >> am glad when we see >> but i am glad when we see armed police in certain contexts, believe in contexts, i don't believe in arming great british bobbies arming our great british bobbies per se. but as we've seen
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christmas events, particularly the christmas market we the christmas market attacks we saw over over saw in germany over over previous years, i'm glad that we've just got that that extra that extra precaution. and i'm also i have to say, i mean, frankly, i think it's a success that we've had the increase in people calling the help line because people calling the help line bec doing their bit and are doing their bit and reporting suspicious. >> how it was >> that's definitely how it was spun. and i suppose in a sense it that if it is a good thing that if you've a massive increase in you've got a massive increase in people calling a hotline, well then there's chance people calling a hotline, well thensomethingthere's chance people calling a hotline, well then something there': be chance that something could be done about i mean, downside about it. i mean, the downside is people feel as is that clearly people feel as though a bit more terror though there's a bit more terror out there, which is massive. out there, which is a massive. >> but least if there is >> but at least if there is something can done about something that can be done about it seen so many it and we have seen so many plots by and the plots start by by m15 and the police we now. police we have now. >> i'm going to bring you in a second, christine, want to second, christine, but i want to bnng second, christine, but i want to bring our viewers and bring this to our viewers and our listeners and attention our listeners and your attention as council in as well. so havering council in east said it would east london has said it would be, the be, quote, unwise to light the traditional candles be, quote, unwise to light the traditiortheir candles be, quote, unwise to light the traditiortheirtown candles be, quote, unwise to light the traditiortheir town hallandles be, quote, unwise to light the traditiortheir town hall iniles outside their town hall in romford . it said going ahead romford. it said going ahead could risk further inflaming tensions within our communities. and the council leader has
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approved the decision. there's been a lot of talk of christmas celebrations here. and as you heard there , the warped mind of heard there, the warped mind of certain individuals lends itself to attacking christmas celebrations , apparently. and celebrations, apparently. and now we have , you know, a very now we have, you know, a very traditional jewish ceremony. if you want a symbol of the jewish faith being cancelled as well. well we retreating from this well , we are. well, we are. >> and it's totally i understand. and i certainly understand, adam saying he doesn't want to take his kids to a big, busy christmas thing, which is tragic. but during the war, the motto was, keep calm and carry on. people kept going dunng and carry on. people kept going during the blitz during horrific things . and there's a wonderful things. and there's a wonderful photograph which anybody over a certain age will know of a milkman delivering his wares dunng milkman delivering his wares during stepping over the ruins of east london. and that was the spirit that kept everybody going. and that is we've got to keep going. we cannot just all cower our why why cower in our homes. why why should our way of life be
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destroyed these terrorists destroyed by these terrorists and thugs? >> unfortunately , the jewish >> unfortunately, the jewish population this country is population in this country is having their lives spun upside down. i know they've beefed up security at their synagogues, the schools have got security, and now they're having things like that cancelled. i find that disgusting. >> yeah, it's hugely offensive. >> yeah, it's hugely offensive. >> i find that upsetting for the jewish population of this country . country. >> and i have to say, i hope now that the response is that there's of upswell and there's a kind of upswell and a lot of people mean, i'm sure lot of people i mean, i'm sure we'd all be prepared to go and do something in romford mark do something in romford to mark hanukkah. particularly do something in romford to mark hanukkaibecause particularly do something in romford to mark hanukkaibecause talkinngarly do something in romford to mark hanukkaibecause talkinnga the offensive because talking of the blitz london, this blitz in east london, this is out for people out of east london for people outside london, the geography of this there's of jewish this is there's a lot of jewish people moved from the inner people who moved from the inner east in the pre—war east end in in the pre—war penod east end in in the pre—war period war period period and the post war period move so is move further east. so this is really, know, heart really, you know, at the heart of london's tradition . of london's jewish tradition. >> i hope lot people >> i hope that a lot of people who some of these who are on some of these pro—palestine marches out pro—palestine marches come out and agree with and don't agree with this decision. to cancel the decision. now to cancel the hanukkah candles. i hope that they use this as a sign and go, look, you know, it's all very well going out and
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well and good going out and marching a saturday marching on a saturday and doing whatever doing , you know, whatever you're doing, you know, which of which do happen which a lot of which i do happen to with. but when you which a lot of which i do happen to someone ith. but when you which a lot of which i do happen to someone having when you which a lot of which i do happen to someone having to 1en you see someone having to essentially hide their faith, let's , that's what let's be honest, that's what this hiding. this is. it's hiding. >> they quite rightly, if it >> and they quite rightly, if it was faith, they'd be was a different faith, they'd be outraged, quite was a different faith, they'd be outra ind, quite was a different faith, they'd be outra in those quite was a different faith, they'd be outra in those instances, quite was a different faith, they'd be outra in those instances, too. ite right in those instances, too. so there must be here. so there must be outrage here. >> let's remember your average jewish has very jewish citizen here has very little israel or what little to do with israel or what they in israel. as your they do in israel. as your average muslim in this country doesn't agree with what isis are doing and other organisations around the world. these poor people, these jewish people having like this cancelled is very upsetting. >> so you obviously want to keep calm and carry on. and this is the thing. so again, just wanting to emphasise and you can watch this back youtube after watch this back on youtube after the if want the show is finished if you want as mark home and as well. mark at home and security pounding the security editor pounding the pavement our top cops pavement with our top cops talking about the level talking to them about the level of they were of terror threat. they were saying of saying it's a kind of unfortunately a matter of when, not that christmas not if. and that christmas gatherings need not if. and that christmas gathe extra need not if. and that christmas gathe extra vigilant. need not if. and that christmas gathe extra vigilant. but need to be extra vigilant. but christine's of keep calm christine's motto of keep calm and carry on. i want to know how
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you feel ahead of all of this. okay? gb views aren't gbnews.com because it does seem as though every single year, every single year gets a little bit year it gets a little bit tetchy. and i'm going to go into that inbox now just to get a flavour, a lay of the land, and then i will put some of your comments panel. comments to my esteemed panel. so we have susan on. susan, so we have had susan on. susan, thank very susan says thank you very much. susan says she's she's in she's scared. she's not in london. she's in manchester. there's market there's a big christmas market in susan, saying there's a big christmas market in that susan, saying there's a big christmas market in that scared saying there's a big christmas market in that scared to (ing there's a big christmas market in that scared to go; here that she's scared to go with her children this . and with her children on this. and steve says , how can they know steve says, how can they know it's only a matter of time? who told them? well well, i would suspect politely, steve, i would expect the intelligence community will be telling them that. and will you be going to christmas events your kids that. and will you be going to chri�*year? events your kids this year? >> em- this year? >> as i said earlier, >> doubtful. as i said earlier, i mean, i don't mind myself going to things, but i'm very protective over my children and i don't get a good feeling i just don't get a good feeling about going into london right now with everything else that's going on with the protests and things and the terror threat. i
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think for me, you know, i'll rest easier if we don't go into london and do other things. >> i completely understand that. but isn't that tragic? >> yeah, it is tragic. >> yeah, it is tragic. >> i think i mean, absolutely everybody must make their own decision, christine. decision, you know, christine. but feel but i think if you feel comfortable, the thing comfortable, i think the thing is there and live your is go out there and live your life, that's we life, because that's what we should mean, should do. but, i mean, i totally understand where you're coming totally understand where you're conthe argument would be to this >> the argument would be to this is made a big deal now is if they made a big deal now because we've brought to because we've brought this to you. can it you. okay and you can see it obviously screens and obviously on your tv screens and listen to it on your radios. but if they did decide make if they did decide to make a massive out of raising that if they did decide to make a massi threat out of raising that if they did decide to make a massi threat to ut of raising that if they did decide to make a massi threat to severeiising that if they did decide to make a massi threat to severe as1g that terror threat to severe as they've done in belgium, as they've done in belgium, as they've then they've done in france, then they've done in france, then they try get ahead of they could try to get ahead of they could try to get ahead of the maybe that get the game. maybe that would get through some people who might the game. maybe that would get thrmore some people who might the game. maybe that would get thrmore inclined people who might the game. maybe that would get thrmore inclined peopl
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informstarts the the public plots forward is often is inform starts the starts ublic plots forward is often is inform starts the starts thec trail. >> yeah, indeed. >> yeah, indeed. >> bessie's on had >> look, bessie's been on i had the misfortune being around the misfortune of being around when were very busy. when the ira were very busy. i quite like the way described quite like the way he described it as busy there. but worked. it as busy there. but i worked. i worked building opposite i worked in a building opposite raf the raf uxbridge when the accommodation bombed. accommodation block was bombed. our building had a credible bomb threat. did not cower threat. we did not cower at home. carried on, but with home. we carried on, but with caution. well, look , we are caution. well, look, we are sensible advice. >> our own police will not even arrest people that are calling for jihad on the streets of london. >> what sort of confidence have i got that our authorities are going to stop? well, this is a this is happening. is this is happening. this is a point a half. point and a half. >> if we're not arresting people, calling for jihad on the streets and we're not raising a terror threat amid risk of terror threat amid a risk of jihad, the jihad, actual jihad on the streets, does beg a lot of streets, it does beg a lot of questions, look, questions, doesn't it? look, keep in. lots keep your views coming in. lots of really good ones in the inbox tonight. vaiews@gbnews.com but as at the as lee anderson hits out at the home office's incompetence, i don't think we have i don't think we'll write to the committee with those numbers. >> mr anderson that's quite that's staggering . that's staggering. >> tory deputy chairman >> the tory deputy chairman joins me live in the studio to
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discuss that epic showdown as well as the backlash his plan well as the backlash to his plan to ship migrants off to the orkney islands . you want orkney islands. you don't want to that. up next the to miss that. but up next in the clash, nigel and nella clash, after nigel and nella have another rumble in the jungle, this time over cultural appropriation on like, you know, you go to a fancy dress party dress or something and now the press will say cultural appropriation. >> like what? because if you were to do blackface , then it is were to do blackface, then it is wrong. >> dress. as a mexican , right. >> dress. as a mexican, right. >> dress. as a mexican, right. >> is it offensive to quotes? use somebody's culture as a fancy dress costume activist in manhattan takes on the deputy leader of ukip, rebecca jane that'll kick off. don't miss it .
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news, the people's channel, britain's news channel . redwall britain's news channel. redwall rottweiler lee anderson . rottweiler lee anderson. >> coming up shortly after that infamous clash today. but now it's infamous clash today. but now wsfime infamous clash today. but now it's time for this clash and once again, the youtuber that nobody's ever heard of, nella rose dragged on gb news superstar nigel farage into a blazing row in the jungle last night this time about cultural appropriation. what if a white person does a black accent that's considered to be a crime? >> they should be cancelled. >> they should be cancelled. >> depends what context. >> it depends in what context. if the piss, then if you're taking the piss, then you're but you're taking the piss. but if you're taking the piss. but if you're then you're so you're not, then you're not. so do you of can't win do you sort of can't win territory? nah, it just depends on context . on the context. >> but, you know, it's rather like, know , you go to a like, you know, you go to a fancy dress party as fancy dress party dressed as
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something, the press fancy dress party dressed as som sayng, the press fancy dress party dressed as som sayng, cultural the press appropriation. >> like what? because if you were to do blackface, then it is wrong. >> dress. as a mexican or whatever it is. you know, i didn't realise before i started doing this segment that apparently i struggle to say the word but there we word appropriation, but there we go. >> well, if dressing up as a mexican an evil crime, mexican is such an evil crime, then nella should have then maybe nella should have a word with ant and dec who don sombreros and brightly coloured shirts promote their itv shirts to promote their itv saturday night takeaway show back in 2021. i think we can all agree that's disgust ing and while she's at it, bring in fellow campmate and ramona in chief fred slay , shaking his arm chief fred slay, shaking his arm . look, that's disgusting . look . look, that's disgusting. look at that. what a what a disgrace . at that. what a what a disgrace. shaking his maracas here with gordon ramsay and gino d'acampo. also on itv in 2018. it makes you sick, doesn't it? so after round two of nigel versus nella, is she right that it's offensive to use somebody's culture as a fancy dress costume? let me know your thoughts by emailing me
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gbviews@gbnews.com or tweet me at gb news. and while you're there, go and vote in our poll. i'll bring you the results very shortly. but to debate this now, i'm joined by former blm activist ayton and the activist de—man ayton and the deputy leader ukip, rebecca deputy leader of ukip, rebecca jane. thank you jane. both of you, thank you very, very much. rebecca i will start with you . is cultural start with you. is cultural appropriation an offensive? does it exist ? what is it? it exist? what is it? >> you mean wearing fancy dress? is it cultural ? essentially? no. is it cultural? essentially? no. patrick, i think is what i'm trying to say. so absolutely not. you know, if i go and walk down the street today and i've got a garland of garlic and onions around my neck and i'm clutching a baguette, i don't understand why anybody would ever take any kind of offence to that. you know, when we were talking obviously talking about, obviously the mexican theme, when it was being discussed in jungle, don't discussed in the jungle, i don't understand why everything has to be offensive today. >> why can it not be seen as a sign of appreciation if i'm going down the with going down the street with a baguette one hand is because baguette in one hand is because i love the french, and if i'm
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dressing up as a mexican, it's because flipping love because i'm flipping love tequila. no , i don't think it tequila. so no, i don't think it is. i think it's gone too far. and i think, again, this is another very divisive topic. >> okay, iman, people are too easily offended. apparently no. >> so , rebecca, i appreciate >> so, rebecca, i appreciate your sentiment . >> so, rebecca, i appreciate your sentiment. i >> so, rebecca, i appreciate your sentiment . i actually agree your sentiment. i actually agree with you to an extent. so in terms of what you're saying, if you decide you want to walk around with a baguette and appreciate the french, well, we're not taking into consideration racial prejudice right ? so that's a white person right? so that's a white person acknowledging another white person and being happy for one culture that's white and another culture that's white and another culture that's white and another culture that's white. we're talking about black people here. okay. we're talking about mexicans here. okay. and what we're actually talking about just genuinely answer your just to genuinely answer your question as to why you said you don't understand, give don't understand, i'll give you the decide you're don't understand, i'll give you the to decide you're don't understand, i'll give you the to dress decide you're don't understand, i'll give you the to dress up decide you're don't understand, i'll give you the to dress up inacide you're don't understand, i'll give you the to dress up in aide you're don't understand, i'll give you the to dress up in a mexican; going to dress up in a mexican hat or a or african garments , hat or a or african garments, you need to take into consideration that those individuals have a certain life. and so what you don't have to
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contend with is the racial prejudice and the bias that goes along with that culture. that's why . so i'll give you an example why. so i'll give you an example . if you decide you're going to claim something as your own. so this is an example of cultural appropriation. if you're going to something as your own, to claim something as your own, as a as an example, being a white woman, got lovely, white woman, you've got lovely, beautiful i've done beautiful blonde hair. i've done many you many wigs like your hair. you look gorgeous , by way. done look gorgeous, by the way. done that. look gorgeous, by the way. done that . so if you decide look gorgeous, by the way. done that. so if you decide i'm going to if i if i'm going to do kane rose as a white woman. okay. kane rose right. you see it as many people would as french braids, right? you see it as french braids. but the truth is, there's no such thing. white people didn't do their hair in kane ifs people didn't do their hair in kane it's to french or kane rose. it's due to french or france colonising africa and colonising. it is just a hairstyle. i mean , let me finish. >> i'll come back to you. i'll, i'll come back to you on. >> can i just finish? >> can i just finish? >> you've banged on it. you've banged on quite a lot here i banged on quite a lot here and i kind of get your point right. kind of do get your point right. rebecca.
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>> let finish point. >> let me finish my point. >> let me finish my point. >> no, you've banged on a bit. i will come back all right. >> rebecca, we're going to waste time. not to. time. you're not going to. you're not going win this. you're not going to win this. let finish. let me finish. >> rebecca. just having this dominated by who's dominated by somebody who's taking rebecca. taking a pages down to rebecca. >> respond to that, please. and not problem that we not this is the problem that we face that there's always face is that there's always somebody win somebody looking to win and there's always trying there's always somebody trying to argument. to make an argument. >> not trying have >> you're not trying to have a conversation with i was conversation with me. i was enjoying myself listening to what you were saying until you went off on your little rant of a . i actually really a tangent. i actually really enjoy listening and trying to understand we're understand the point that we're having. that i missed having. the point that i missed is that i understand why is that i don't understand why beyonce can go around with blonde hair and blue eyes, and that's offensive . but if that's not offensive. but if i wore cornrows , it actually would wore cornrows, it actually would be okay. >> there we go. come back to that. then between cultural appreciation and cultural appropriation . appropriation. >> and that's what i'm trying to explain to you, rebecca, please hear out. not even trying hear me out. i'm not even trying to rant. >> i'm actually trying one at a time. on. go on, i'm on. time. i'm on. go on, i'm on. >> you ask the question genuinely. you, patrick. genuinely. thank you, patrick.
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thank you. i appreciate it. genuinely. asked genuinely. rebecca, you asked the . i'm genuinely the question. i'm genuinely trying you answer. i trying to give you the answer. i get fully get it. when get it. i fully get it. when black walking black people go around walking around blonde wigs. i did around with blonde wigs. i did it black lives matter. it during black lives matter. you can find that picture on google right now. this is a difference between appreciation, which can be steeped when it pertains to black people in terms of internalised racism and not good enough. and not feeling good enough. and this is why we resort to using your but that's a your hair. but that's a different an aside, different that's an aside, right? actually talking right? we're actually talking about black can get about why black people can get away it. the reason away with it. the reason why is because appreciation , which because of appreciation, which was original point, and was your original point, and this i actually preface this is why i actually preface my entire soliloquy that my whole entire soliloquy that you said was a rant by you said was just a rant by saying, rebecca, you're right . saying, rebecca, you're right. there's a difference between appreciation and appropriation . appreciation and appropriation. and as long as it's not okay, but as long as difference, as far as i can tell, as far as i can tell, no , it is my show, right? >> and i am going to talk about this now because there's far as i can tell, the difference between appreciation and appropriation is that a white
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person can't show cultural appreciation. >> rebecca wrong , wrong. >> rebecca wrong, wrong. >> rebecca wrong, wrong. >> i think that's what you've just been saying. >> this wrong. >> this wrong. >> no, no, not. >> hang on one second. you're not having the conversation . not having the conversation. >> how can you go on, rebecca, can somebody please cut him off, please ? so why on earth no , please? so why on earth no, genuinely, i'm asking you a question. yeah. so why on earth if you've not had a conversation with somebody you don't know their reasons for wearing cornrows, how can you decide that they are wrong for doing it and they are racist? if you've not even had the conversation ? not even had the conversation? >> okay, so i'll answer your point. so i'm actually talking about a lived experience of someone who actually really condemns black people and black culture, but continues to wear cornrows and decides to call them french braids. and she doesn't because she has a level of ignorance. and let's not be afraid of that word. she has a level of ignorance. she didn't realise that actually realise that she's actually called or sorry,
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called naturally or sorry, appropriating someone's culture. right? so that's a specific lived experience. so that's just one point. but let'sjust lived experience. so that's just one point. but let's just go back original point, back to the original point, right? original point is if right? the original point is if you haven't have if you haven't had rather lived experience of had rather a lived experience of being person and being being a mexican person and being condemned for your garments. right. it's really hypocritical for you to be stood there as a white person during halloween wearing that same garment because you are the same person potentially saying these people need to leave my country in the uk or they need to leave my country. in the us, you are the same person that doesn't understand that understand the prejudice that they through. being they have to go through. being a mexican wearing that hat. so can i just can i just ask whether or not on can i just ask whether or not on can i just ask whether or not you actually you're not you actually your you're being overly being a little bit overly stereotypical here because you described you described described your you described britain and france as being white countries, whereas many people would regard them as being incredibly multicultural countries . countries. >> and if you believe articles, if you believe art, if you believe articles that read believe articles that you read in the bbc, you know, we've we've had black people here
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since goodness since roman times, for goodness sake . you also appear to be sake. you also appear to be making the insinuation that, you know, people walk know, all mexican people walk around wearing sombreros, which isn't true. are you not isn't true. so are you not a little bit guilty of cultural appropriation there maybe little bit guilty of cultural appropistereotyping maybe little bit guilty of cultural appropistereotyping people?be maybe stereotyping people? >> said it once >> no, no. i just said it once interrupting you several times. i do apologise. i keep doing that because get that because i get so impassioned when are impassioned when people are incredibly on national tv. incredibly wrong on national tv. i'll just repeat, no , not even i'll just repeat, no, not even in the slightest. i made it very, very, very clear. no, no, no, no. hold on a second. i made it very clear in terms of cultural appropriation, it's very clear and when you say things like, i don't understand it or i'm i'm generalising. no you need to be clear on something. when you cannot you're not in a position , ann, you're not in a position, ann, just politely suggest you're not on several times having prejudice thrust upon you. you have no right to wear their hat and their garments. it really is simple as that. >> i'm just going to make a point now because. because i've had you on several times and i would love to have you back on. right. but perhaps and it's just
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something maybe for all to something maybe for us all to reflect perhaps if reflect on here. perhaps if after every single thing you say , clean that up , you then have to clean that up because you think that someone has you has completely misunderstood you or it, or completely misrepresented it, maybe else's maybe it's not everybody else's fault, there we go. was fault, but there we go. that was deputy. fault, but there we go. that was defyou've gone off on a concrete >> you've gone off on a concrete jane, was blm activist jane, and that was blm activist iman mason. >> now, who do you agree with? after round two of nigel versus nella, is she right that it's offensive to use somebody's culture as a fancy dress costume? says costume? james on twitter says just another of gen just another example of gen z looking for something, anything to be offended by. nigel was being rational. alan on being totally rational. alan on twitter says, surely it's worse to culture at to deny a culture exists at least dressing up in traditional clothes from different cultures helps educate and open up helps to educate and open up discussion for me on this. can i just say i think it's very much a race thing, right? so i think it's one thing like wearing a sombrero. it will be another thing face thing painting your face or doing along those doing something along those lines. twitter lines. but charles on twitter says, a celeb, has turned says, i'm a celeb, has turned into political program. into a political program. i used to to the news. to watch it to escape the news. now i have to say, nella is talking nonsense. i do massively
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appreciate irony there. appreciate the irony there. shapps currently watching shapps of you currently watching a say a news program whilst you say that. you very, very that. and thank you very, very much, but your verdict is now in. of say that it's not in. 95% of you say that it's not offensive use somebody's offensive to use somebody's culture dress costume culture as a fancy dress costume . 5% say that it is, . 5% of you say that it is, right. coming up, omid scobie . 5% of you say that it is, righ had�*ming up, omid scobie . 5% of you say that it is, righ had a ing up, omid scobie . 5% of you say that it is, righ had a nightmare|id scobie . 5% of you say that it is, righ had a nightmare|id the 3ie . 5% of you say that it is, righ had a nightmare|id the dutch has had a nightmare as the dutch version end appears version of end game appears to name two alleged royal racists. not that i believe they're racist for a single second. so should the royal family now sue the sussexes mouthpiece ? royal the sussexes mouthpiece? royal author angela levin will be here with searing analysis. but with her searing analysis. but next, lee anderson exposes the home office for being an utter shambles. >> i think we have. i don't think we'll write to the committee with those numbers, mr anderson. >> that's quite staggering . >> that's quite staggering. >> that's quite staggering. >> well, i will show you the full showdown involving the tory deputy chair and then he's live in the studio to react. plus, will lee double down on his plan to send migrants to the orkney islands? stick around
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isabel monday to thursdays from. six till 930 . six till 930. >> steen royal journalist angela levin waiting in the wings . but levin waiting in the wings. but first the deputy tory party chair, lee anderson has exposed just how hapless home office bosses are today . but he didn't bosses are today. but he didn't have to work very hard . have to work very hard. >> how many people travelling on small boats has been refused asylum ? i've been sent to asylum? i've been sent to a third country or back to their own country of the past three years .
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years. >> i don't think we have. i don't think we'll write to the committee with those numbers. >> mr anderson that's quite that's staggering. >> that's actually very. so okay, then let's do it. for the last year . last year. >> i don't have a number for non—albanian non knows. >> perhaps they might be able to help you. >> let's do last week then . >> let's do last week then. >> let's do last week then. >> do we have any figures about anything . anything. >> oh it's very rare that i'm speechless. how can you go to a meeting about that ? on the issue meeting about that? on the issue that the country cares most about and not have the answer to those questions? i'm very pleased say i'm joined pleased to say that i'm joined by the man himself. lee, tell us about showdown. about that showdown. >> it got worse. >> it got worse. >> before patrick >> it was worse before patrick and worse after. we had two hours it's hours of these two. well, it's like laurel and in cooler. like laurel and hardy in cooler. they were shuffling the papers like laurel and hardy in cooler. they wescratchingg the papers like laurel and hardy in cooler. they we scratching their papers like laurel and hardy in cooler. they we scratching their heads; like laurel and hardy in cooler. they we scratching their heads . around, scratching their heads. didn't have clue. i don't didn't have a clue. i don't think the whole two hour think in the whole two hour session. they answered think in the whole two hour sesssingle they answered think in the whole two hour sesssingle questiony answered think in the whole two hour sesssingle question correctlyzd think in the whole two hour sesssingle question correctly .i one single question correctly. it was always, we're going to write to you. we don't have that information on hand yet. they've got them
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got two assistants behind them with the laptops could have with the laptops who could have got quite got that information down quite easily. shocking and it easily. it was shocking and it was an insult to the home affairs select committee. when you're going to meet mps at the committee, you should know your brief, have facts brief, you should have the facts , the figures, , you should have the figures, you homework. it you should do your homework. it was amateurish. it was it was awful. frankly, it awful. and quite frankly, it should of themselves. should be ashamed of themselves. >> i believe, >> they also, i believe, couldn't the exact couldn't tell us the exact amount that's going to amount of money that's going to continue sent rwanda, continue to be sent to rwanda, because, we're still because, by the way, we're still paying because, by the way, we're still paying for that . i just find paying for that. i just find that an insult, actually, to paying for that. i just find that an insult , actually, to the that an insult, actually, to the british people. i mean , does british people. i mean, does that look to you like people who really urgency about really sense the urgency about mass migration, illegal immigration? >> like that, a, >> well, it looks like that, a, they've learned that. they they've not learned that. they don't know the brief, patrick, but looks they're not but it looks like they're not bothered. when you're bothered. i mean, when you're turning a meeting and bear turning up to a meeting and bear in mind, meetings are in mind, these meetings are screened anybody screened live. so anybody anywhere can anywhere on this planet can watch live. and to watch that meeting live. and to say their office say that their home office officials massive salaries officials on on massive salaries and they can't answer they weren't even difficult questions. they were simple . questions. they were simple. >> they sacked? well >> should they be sacked? well that's not for me to say. >> but if i run a private
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business and i had two employees like they'd probably would like that, they'd probably would be park. be working out in a car park. >> you went to a job >> you if you went to a job interview and you responded to questions like that, never questions like that, you'd never get never get the get the job. you never get the job. >> n job. >> i mean, on that >> no, i mean i mean, on that performance, i mean, to performance, i mean, i said to a colleague today, it was like a couple white's trainees 30 couple of white's trainees 30 years first day years ago on the first day at work. didn't have a clue. work. they didn't have a clue. they got their their heads there , know, the heads up the , you know, all the heads up the backside. i think patrick, one of them has been knighted, i think, he knighted for think, yeah, he got knighted for services don't know what services to. i don't know what open possibly, but we'll open borders possibly, but we'll have wait and see on that. have to wait and see on that. >> you're at >> now, lee, obviously you're at the a political storm the centre of a political storm or least were anyway or at least you were anyway after your appearance this after your appearance on this very week where you very show last week where you told me that illegal migrants should possibly be sent to the orkney islands scotland right should possibly be sent to the orknereactions scotland right should possibly be sent to the orkne reactions s some d right . the reaction from some quarters was furious that orkney and shetland mp alistair carmichael said this is not a serious proposition . i would be serious proposition. i would be astonished if lee anderson could even find orkney a map . his even find orkney on a map. his remarks show inhumanity towards desperate and vulnerable people
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and disdain towards island communities to boot . and even communities to boot. and even the chancellor, jeremy hunt and commons speaker penny morden were forced to brush off your idea . what's so bad about your idea. what's so bad about your orkney islands suggestion ? orkney islands suggestion? >> lee well, i don't know what's what's bad with the orkney isles. served in isles. my dad served there in a exemplary military career back in it's a long away in the day. it's a long way away . birmingham , . but, you know, if birmingham, if nottingham, if derby, if leicester and sheffield are good enough to send illegal migrants, then that's what the orkney is or any other or any part or any other island or any part of great, the great british of this great, the great british isles. but i don't see what the problem know what the problem is. i know what the problem is. i know what the problem people like mp, problem is. people like this mp, i don't even his name is i don't even know his name is alistair. doesn't them alistair. he doesn't want them there. to have there. it's quite happy to have illegal in the towns illegal migrants in the towns and around where we and villages around where we are, but when it's in their own backyard, despite bleating on all about we should all the time about we should accept or they don't want accept more or they don't want them in their backyard, well them in their own backyard, well , interesting that you say that. >> i mean, obviously alistair carmichael to defend carmichael is not here to defend himself. but when you look at scotland as a whole, he's a liberal and obviously liberal democrat and obviously scotland under the snp, they are
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not near not taking anywhere near the kind doing kind of numbers, despite doing things calling things like humza yousaf calling for our arms around for us to throw our arms around gaza. for us to throw our arms around gaza . i find strange. i've gaza. i find that strange. i've just about got time for another one though. i'm pretty sure he's going to get going there. going to get you going there. ursula der leyen has ursula von der leyen has astonishingly the astonishingly claimed that the next will, quote, next generation will, quote, fix our rejoin the our mistake and rejoin the european union. eu president thinks goofed it up when thinks the uk goofed it up when it comes to brexit and the country is now on a direction of travel towards rejoining lee. >> so the generation that fixed the problems in europe, patrick, was my granddad's generation. he put a british army uniform on, left the pits in nottinghamshire in 1939 or 1940. whenever it was, he went to fight the nazis. he went all across north africa, through sicily, through italy, seen things. that seen some horrible things. that was that was the generation that fixed the problems in europe. she needs up right. needs to shut up right. >> okay. and do you think that in lifetime end up in our lifetime we will end up back the european back in the european union? >> not. because if we do, >> i hope not. because if we do, i'm moving to orkney isles. are you? definitely. you? yes, definitely. >> i mean, there's a certain mp who say that,
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who might have he'd say that, you you were you know, you were you were probably offending. well, that'll teach won't it? that'll teach you, won't it? okay. you turn up on us. so okay. if you turn up on us. so if we rejoin the european union, you you will deliver yourself. >> i'm going to live in the eu. alistair carmichael, stand for parliament in the orkney isles. >> well, well, there >> well, well, well. there we 90, >> well, well, well. there we go, thank you very, very go, ladies. thank you very, very much. and always an absolute pleasure having you on. coming up, no idea on deportations. more rwanda and sunak more money to rwanda and sunak ignoring. it appears that ignoring. least it appears that way . his own ignoring. least it appears that way. his own immigration minister. a damning day for our immigration nation. i tear into rishi sunak as the battle for our borders descends into a complete and utter farce. we'll also live to australia for also cross live to australia for the latest farage as nella the latest farage drama as nella and nigel lock horns again. but next as the dutch version of end game is pulled from shelves for naming the royal racist so—called should the firm sue scobie royal biographer angela levin gives her exclusive insight . and that is live. and insight. and that is live. and
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next an exclusive interview with the person that many regard as a political genius and donald trump's former white house strategist, steve bannon . that's strategist, steve bannon. that's coming later on tonight. he doesn't hold back. but first, omid has reignited the omid scobie has reignited the old royal race row after the dutch edition of end game appeared to name not one, but two family members who questioned archie's skin colour allegedly. if anyone believes that , that's despite the that, that's despite the sussexes distancing themselves from the allegation that the royal family are, quote, racist, scobie told dutch media there's never been a version that i've produced that has names in it. unfortunately i can't speak dutch, so i haven't seen the copy for myself. so if there have been any translation errors, i'm sure the publishers got it under control . however, got it under control. however, that publisher's own statement read that they had quote , read that they had quote, temporarily removed the book for sale due to an error that occurred in the dutch edition.
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no mention of a translation blunder unless , of course, that blunder unless, of course, that was somehow lost in translation. joining me now to discuss this is biographer and is royal biographer and journalist levin . angela, journalist angela levin. angela, should the firm sue scobie? >> yes , definitely. >> yes, definitely. >> yes, definitely. >> but they won't. and i'm sure that the reason they won't is that the reason they won't is that it would mean harry would win because he's tried to get a battle with them. and as spoken through the public book and the royal family has never done that. >> he's the one who likes to go and sue people in court. but the royal family don't there to dignify died. and that will really let them down. but when you say harry would win, do you mean he'd win in court or that he would win winning? >> but he would win because they don't do that sort of thing and he break that. he will break that. >> and if they start talking or going be able to going to court, he'll be able to throw at them all the sort of pettiness that he remembers when he was given three sausages and william had four, you know, going back to his childhood. i
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mean, a lot of this stuff is going right the back. he going right the way back. he can't it go. he's hanging on can't let it go. he's hanging on to it. and so i think that they won't sue, but somebody can or harry should be the one to sue. he should sue omit. harry should be the one to sue. he should sue omit . actually, he should sue omit. actually, without a doubt . if he doesn't, without a doubt. if he doesn't, within a week or so, then it was it's like saying, i agree with all this , i'm fine with it. i all this, i'm fine with it. i believe that you could absolutely smear my catherine, who was the sister i'd always wanted you know, there used to be laughing together , very close be laughing together, very close together. she decided suggested about doing mental health, and it helped him enormously early. and now suddenly she's horrible. she's a stepford wife. she doesn't work properly. she does half things. and they do one charity thing a month , an hour, charity thing a month, an hour, one hour in a month. they work one hour in a month. they work on charity. and they're saying that catherine is only half a ruler because she likes to spend
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time with her children. please. you know, and harry allows us to go. no he's the one who should be making a big fuss. >> so the firm should sue. scobie, in your view , but won't, scobie, in your view, but won't, because that's not how they operate . yeah. harry, you think operate. yeah. harry, you think should definitely. and this would be arguably the best thing to completely distance himself because they're saying things like, well, you know, we've had nothing to do with this globsec have nothing to do with it. well, a minute. if well, hang on a minute. if letters between and letters between charles and meghan are being published, well, charles doesn't give them to you. >> exactly gm- to you. >> exactly , exactly, >> yeah, exactly, exactly, exactly. is not going to exactly. charles is not going to show them to anyone. and who who who gave to them. if they who gave them to them. if they weren't meghan, did they steal them ? no, of course them from meghan? no, of course not. meghan probably showed a friend did before with friend like she did before with her letters then her father's letters and then sued newspaper for, you know, sued a newspaper for, you know, she gives to one friend who she gives it to one friend who gives to friend who gives it to another friend who then gives to the writer. then gives it to the writer. it's easy to do that, so it's very easy to do that, so she pretends not involved. it's very easy to do that, so she can'tnds not involved. it's very easy to do that, so she can't be not involved. it's very easy to do that, so she can't be involvedt involved. it's very easy to do that, so she can't be involved because d. she can't be involved because she's pure and wonderful and
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does . but this is does nothing wrong. but this is because she won't ever accept that she's at fault . so she's that she's at fault. so she's very, very cunning and i'm quite sure that it goes a little journey and then it comes out the other side. >> i just think if this guy is going to make a lot of money on his scope, he's going to make a lot of money presumably anyway, off this book. and going off this book. and he's going to really up a load of really whip up a load of tensions and a load of mystery about about some of these members of the royal family and in doing so, dragging all of the different members of the royal family into it as well, and drag this country, by definition , this country, by definition, through the mud, should he not be made to stand up court and be made to stand up in court and justify himself? >> , absolutely. >> yes, absolutely. >> yes, absolutely. >> he's got to say he gets >> he's got to say where he gets them did he get them from. where did he get these from? you know, these letters from? you know, has he used extract from them has he used an extract from them 7 has he used an extract from them ? you know, it's not allowed to do that. >> this could be time >> a time this could be a time for the royal to draw a for the royal family to draw a line the sand and go, you line in the sand and go, you know we've been playing know what, we've been playing nice know. they know what, we've been playing nice deep know. they know what, we've been playing nice deep down, know. they know what, we've been playing nice deep down, well, ow. they know what, we've been playing nice deep down, well, what'sey know deep down, well, what's what's what's charles and camilla and all of these people
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going to do about things they're not going to go to court, are they? going they? william's not going to want court. want to go to court. >> it's not about being nice. >> it's not about being nice. >> not about being nice. >> it's not about being nice. >> haven't)out being nice. >> it's not about being nice. >> haven't beenieing nice. >> it's not about being nice. >> haven't been nice nice. >> it's not about being nice. >> haven't been nice because they haven't been nice because they've quiet they've been dignified and quiet and no notice of him. and have taken no notice of him. and as powerful as and that's as powerful as screaming but they screaming and shouting. but they don't do that. they're dignified people and they want to get on with their work. look, i don't think that would work very well . think that would work very well. it would. it would break a tradition of hundreds of years . tradition of hundreds of years. >> you know what i think as well for people who claim to care so much about women's rights, you know, and the rights of women all around the world and stuff like that, to come out and make a slew of allegations about kate, things like the way she dresses and that she's coachable and that she's cold, etcetera , and that she's cold, etcetera, that doesn't seem to me like the real feminist thing to do , does real feminist thing to do, does it? no. meghan it's. >> it's hideous. everything is hideous. it's only one woman that he really seems to like who
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is perfect, and that is meghan. but i mean, by many, anybody's view, she's absolutely not. but she's very, very strong minded. she has to win and she's furious . if she wanted to go and tell the queen how to become modern, yeah, it didn't work. and i think she's taking her. yeah. >> and of course , by the way, >> and of course, by the way, just to just to clarify, i meant ahmed, not meghan. there's no evidence at all that meghan has had anything to do with this book.so had anything to do with this book. so we so book. so there we go. yes. so no, think this is this no, i think i think this is this is going to be interesting to see this plays out now. and see how this plays out now. and let what think in let me know what you think in the as well. gb views or the inbox as well. gb views or gbnews.com andrew doyle. levin certainly thinks that, you know, omid have to omid scobie should have to justify in one way justify himself in court one way or other. harry should maybe or the other. harry should maybe take distance take him there to distance himself or the himself from him or, or the royal should royal family themselves. should take distance take him there to distance themselves from him. i expect a lot people might agree with lot of people might agree with you inbox, angela. i'll you in the inbox, angela. i'll go shortly, thank go to that shortly, but thank you ever. always an you very much as ever. always an important now coming important insight. now coming up, trump's up, i sit down with trump's former hand man, steve former right hand man, steve bannon a holds barred
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well . well. >> it's 10 pm. and this is patrick christys tonight. >> don't think we have don't think we'll write to the committee with those numbers, mr >> anderson. that's quite staggering . staggering. >> no idea on deportations . more >> no idea on deportations. more money to rwanda and sunak ignonng money to rwanda and sunak ignoring his own immigration minister. a damning day for our
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immigration nation. an exclusive to bring you shortly with the punchiest man in world politics. >> look, nigel farage is one of the most important figures in all of british political history because he the brexit because he led the brexit movement that really gave the sovereignty, gave sovereignty back british people, and back to the british people, and they for that. and they hate him for that. and they'll always hate him for that. >> e bannon , trump's that. >> bannon , trump's former >> steve bannon, trump's former right hand man, comes out swinging in defence of farage and western culture in and indeed western culture in general. a bbc radio host has said that working in a predominantly white environment gives him mental health issues. more on that as our press pack paper review very shortly . we'll paper review very shortly. we'll give you tomorrow's news tonight . and of course, it wouldn't be a show without this guy . hey, a show without this guy. hey, ben , leo reveals all night st ben, leo reveals all night st giles' nearly drowned in the jungle and nella has kicked off again. of course she has. well, christine hamilton, adam brooks and matthew lanza are ready to get busy on the sofa as well. this is patrick christys. tonight and we're live .
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tonight and we're live. email me. come on. should the government tell us right now how many channel migrants have actually been deported? vaiews@gbnews.com or tweet us at gb news is lively after the headunes. headlines. >> patrick thank you and good evening to you. let's bring you some more detail on that breaking news we had for you a short time ago. ten more israeli citizens, formerly hostages and four thai nationals have been released from gaza after that latest hostage prisoner swap ongoing between hamas and israel. and in the last hour, some of the hostages have arrived at the sheba medical centre . that's in tel aviv. centre. that's in tel aviv. we're also expecting, as we said earlier , more palestinian earlier, more palestinian prisoners to be released tonight in exchange for today, of course, marking the sixth day of
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the current pause in fighting the current pause in fighting the so—called humanitarian truce between the two sides. meanwhile talks are ongoing in an effort to extend that truce before it expires tonight . well, in news expires tonight. well, in news here in the uk, sir keir starmer says the government's to blame for record migration numbers as he promised to scrap laws that allow workers from overseas to be paid less than british workers . the prime minister be paid less than british workers. the prime minister and the labour leader both clashing dunng the labour leader both clashing during prime minister's questions earlier. sir keir starmer reminding mps of the government's promise to reduce legal migration back in 2019. well, in response , rishi sunak well, in response, rishi sunak conceded that immigration levels are still too high, but he said the number is coming down now sir elton john's been in parliament today. he's been talking about a new project which aims to end all new cases of hiv infection in england by 2030. he highlighted plans for hiv testing in a&e departments
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to be increased in a bid to detect the virus in people who might not otherwise be tested. experts say more than 4000 people in england are believed to be living with the virus, but they don't know . health and they don't know. health and social care secretary victoria atkins says it is an important step towards eradicating the virus . virus. >> we've seen from the scheme that has already be rolled out across the highest prevalence areas that thousands of people can be helped with this, these early diagnoses and then they can be given the support and the medical treatment they need to lead not just longer lives , but lead not just longer lives, but also high quality lives, not. >> ingham city council says it's in severe financial distress and is unable to deliver a balanced budget. east midlands reporter will hollis has more . will hollis has more. >> nottingham city council has today announced that it cannot balance its budget and the chief financial officer has issued a section 114 notice effectively
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declaring bankruptcy that means that the labour led authority me from today can only spend money on statutory services. those are things like education for roads , things like education for roads, for children's services. now the council must meet within 21 days to discuss what measures they will be putting in place. the council has already spent a number of years struggling with its finances and today it has really come to a head . really come to a head. >> will hollis now it's set to be another very cold night tonight. widespread frost and freezing fog , apparently over freezing fog, apparently over large sections of the countryside, particularly in the north yorkshire has already seen wintry showers, particularly along the north eastern coast. that belt moving inland and the snow continuing to fall across scotland and northumberland as well and more is on the way. temperatures are set to drop as low as minus eight degrees celsius in rural parts of scotland tonight. and the met office has extended its yellow
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weather warning until friday. but the met office says it is too early to predict a white christmas . too early to predict a white christmas. this too early to predict a white christmas . this is gb news christmas. this is gb news across the uk on tv , in your across the uk on tv, in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play your smart speaker by saying play gb news this is britain's news channel . news channel. >> let's cross live now to australia where our reporter ben leo is beachside obviously for the inside track and all the latest from the jungle. and apparently it's been an eventful day because nigel nearly drowned dunng day because nigel nearly drowned during a channel tunnel. a challenge and nella rose has kicked again . ben, you are kicked off again. ben, you are i mean, you're slumming it over there. clearly and we all wish you a speedy recovery home out of that hellhole. but how has it been today then? yeah good day, patrick. >> i've slagged itv off enough in the last couple of days, so i'll give them credit tonight. tonight was a barnstorming
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episode . probably something to episode. probably something to do with fact was do with the fact nigel was involved was in the involved and he was in the trial. so no, nigel, no party. i think established that think we've established that much did nearly much so far. he did nearly drown. was in a bushtucker drown. he was in a bushtucker trial to dunk trial where he had to dunk himself underwater, surrounded by pythons , lizards, by water pythons, lizards, reptiles, everything else . reptiles, everything else. unfortunately, i think he's been smoking far many ciggies smoking far too many ciggies because he quite laughably couldn't his breath for couldn't hold his breath for even five seconds. he got no stars pass. so so, stars and had to pass. so so, yeah, not too good on that front. however the highlight of the was surprise , surprise. the show was surprise, surprise. nella rose having a row with nigel about being offended about something she carried on the argument from last night about cultural here's cultural appropriation. here's the clip. >> hey, you want to talk about it? >> well, i need to know why. because i don't know. that's why i >>i -- >> i just felt like you. you were very dismissive about cultural appropriation yesterday i >>i -- >> i no,i >> i no, i was concerned about it. >> is what you said of like, oh, if but if i was to dress up in a certain costume , then i'd get certain costume, then i'd get the backlash for it. you was basically trying to imply that
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we can say and do whatever we want and not get backlash. but when you do it, you get backlash. that's why i interpreted what what interpreted what i said was what if a mexican and if i turn up as a mexican and a fancy dress party? >> does that get me? i don't know rules are. know what the rules are. >> we can agree to disagree, but let's just not like best let's just not be like the best of i literally of buds because i literally we're just from two different sides of the world and you will never understand my issues and struggles . struggles. >> there's an age thing too. >> there's an age thing too. >> yeah, that. how is this an age thing? i think things i mean, cultural appropriation age thing? i think things i mean, existiral appropriation age thing? i think things i mean, existiral yearspriation age thing? i think things i mean, existiral years ago. on didn't exist 30 years ago. >> wasn't even a concept. no one talked . talked about it. >> goodness me . i mean, i don't >> goodness me. i mean, i don't know what to say about nella anymore. i'm just. i'm past being offended about her. it's quite clear she's got nothing in between and actually, between the years. and actually, i sorry for nigel i feel a bit sorry for nigel because trying because he's trying to understand what's offensive and what's according to these what's not. according to these perma zers . and she what's not. according to these perrwon't zers . and she what's not. according to these perrwon't have zers . and she what's not. according to these perrwon't have it. zers . and she what's not. according to these perrwon't have it. and . and she what's not. according to these perrwon't have it. and much she just won't have it. and much like a child in the playground, she just says, look, don't she just says, look, i don't agree with you, let's not be agree with you, so let's not be friends. don't want to be your
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friends. i don't want to be your friends. i don't want to be your friend anymore. we have friend anymore. so there we have it. what to say about it. i mean, what to say about her, aren't happy it. i mean, what to say about her, her. aren't happy it. i mean, what to say about her, her. she's aren't happy it. i mean, what to say about her, her. she's drifted happy it. i mean, what to say about her, her. she's drifted outypy it. i mean, what to say about her, her. she's drifted out to with her. she's drifted out to 150 to 1 now to win the series. and the fact she's got more than 2 million followers on 2 or 3 million followers on social makes me fear for social media makes me fear for the future of this country. actually people actually all these young people following like following someone like her, goodness following someone like her, gocwell,. following someone like her, gocwell, there we go. although >> well, there we go. although i suppose in defence of nella it would imply that at least some people that is people do think that she is popular and she's maybe got a bit about her belly. thank bit about her belly. oh thank you much, there you very much, ben. leo, there giving it absolute barrels giving it absolute both barrels from the coast. so well from the gold coast. so well look, we obviously have had a nella versus nigel round three. no doubt it'll be round four tomorrow. but look back to matters a lot more serious. okay and i think, frankly, one of the reasons why the vast majority of people watch and listen to this show , it's frankly the news of show, it's frankly the news of the but we learned the day. but today we learned three important things on immigration. firstly, deport asians. lee anderson asked top home office officials if they knew how many channel migrants had actually been refused asylum
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and then deport id and they didn't have a scooby . didn't have a scooby. >> how many people travelling on small boats has been refused asylum, have been sent out to a third country or back to their own country of the past three years ? i i don't think we have. years? i i don't think we have. >> i don't think we'll write to the committee with those numbers i >> -- >> mr >> mr >> anderson that's quite that's staggering. that's actually very. >> so okay, then let's do it. >> so okay, then let's do it. >> for the last year. >> for the last year. >> i don't have a number for non—albanian non photos. >> perhaps they might be able to help you. >> let's do last week then . >> let's do last week then. >> let's do last week then. >> do we have any figures about anything ? anything? >> it's like a comedy show, isn't it? the fact that they turn up to a scrutiny committee totally unprepared to answer a bafic totally unprepared to answer a basic question on the most important issue of the day shows in my view, they just don't care . it's shocking. next, rwanda supreme court says no. the thing
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is a dud. we've sent them £140 million. but today, sir matthew ryecroft, the home office is permanent secretary, revealed that taxpayer , as you, me, that taxpayer, as you, me, everyone we know will have to pay everyone we know will have to pay more for accommodation in rwanda for the migrants who are no longer going to be deported, as well as other funds to assist the authorities in kigali to develop their capabilities and capacity . so he can't tell us capacity. so he can't tell us how much money will be on the hook for because that's commercially sensitive. i would argue it's personally sensitive to all of us. cost of living crisis and all that. i mean, this is bonkers. seriously it's nuts. finally immigration minister jenrick bobby minister robert jenrick bobby genenc minister robert jenrick bobby generic to his mates as publicly distanced himself from rishi sunak. he said that he's got his own immigration plan was nice of him, isn't it? that's good. that's a good start. he's got his own immigration plan, which he's pm and wanted to he's put to the pm and wanted to introduce christmas , introduce before last christmas, but happened. reading but it hasn't happened. reading between the lines, he's been ignored when it to cutting ignored when it comes to cutting net migration. bearing net migration. now bearing in mind behind scenes mind that behind the scenes bobby regarded as
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bobby generic is regarded as a close ally of rishi, that's quite strong stuff. so to summarise, top civil servants won't tell us or don't know if we've deported any illegal immigrants recently . taxpayers immigrants recently. taxpayers are sending wheelbarrows of cash to an african nation to accommodate migrants who aren't there, but they won't tell us how much cash it actually is . how much cash it actually is. and our prime minister, who was just sacked a home secretary who wanted to net migration wanted to bring net migration down, possibly ignoring his down, is possibly ignoring his immigration minister, who also wants net migration immigration minister, who also wants but net migration immigration minister, who also wants but apart et migration immigration minister, who also wants but apart from gration immigration minister, who also wants but apart from thaton immigration minister, who also wants but apart from that ,1 down. but apart from that, everything's fine , right? so to everything's fine, right? so to respond to this now, i'm joined again by author and broadcaster christine hamilton, business man and activist adam brooks , a and activist adam brooks, a former labour party adviser. my few lhasa . christine, you were few lhasa. christine, you were guffawing . guffawing. >> well, it wasn't so much a guffaw. it was a feeling of utter helplessness. how long have the tories been in government? remind me? 13 years. >> 15 years of failure. >> 15 years of failure. >> 13? well, yes, exactly. >> 13? well, yes, exactly. >> straight out the traps.
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>> straight out of the traps. >> straight out of the traps. >> 13 years of failure on this. they've of they've done the square root of nothing . really. we get is nothing. really. all we get is hot air. jenrick says he's been trying to get something done for a mean, it's perfectly a year. i mean, it's perfectly obvious what we need we? obvious what we need to do. we? yes one in yes we need migration. one in and one out is what we should have. so the numbers don't swell too want to the too much. we want to stop the people just want to come and people who just want to come and sell the big issue from coming. but we don't want to stop the indian are going to indian doctors who are going to be. get that. be. i get that. >> i get that. there's specifics on the specifics on on this or the specifics on this, which i find absolutely staggering . i'll just come staggering. i'll just i'll come back christine, adam, on back to you, christine, adam, on this, which is we are currently unable to be told if and if any channel migrants who have been found to not be genuine asylum seekers that have been rejected have been deported at any point in the last three years. they did not have the answer to that question . i mean, you could tell question. i mean, you could tell the anderson wasn't even trying to him out. really just to catch him out. really just ask question. and they ask the question. and they didn't realised ask the question. and they didwas realised he was in. >> think that that says >> i think that that that says it our civil service and
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it all. our civil service and our border force are not implementing what the actual law or the policies that the government has in place. so what sort of chance has the government got? i'm not defending the government because over the last 13 years they have done something about immigration. they've increased it both illegal and legal. but when you said one in, one out, that's something i used to use all the time when i had nightclubs, when we were full, we would go one out, go we would go one in, one out, go to doormen and say, one in, to the doormen and say, one in, one please. that would one out, please. what that would do would protect it. one out, please. what that would do you would protect it. one out, please. what that would do you overload otect it. one out, please. what that would do you overload aact it. one out, please. what that would do you overload a nightclub, when you overload a nightclub, it becomes dangerous . you can't it becomes dangerous. you can't get a drink. the service is collapse it. what's going collapse it. that's what's going to this country. it to happen to this country. it becomes dangerous. and the services collapse. so it's not fair on those that are already here and those of us that were born here. we have to stop this. i mean, i would go like. and say, you know, stop immigration. if someone leaves, someone can come in. well, actually, according to a recent poll, 53% of the british public wanted a.
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on immigration for five years. >> a pause . the idea would be >> a pause. the idea would be that we could absorb the amount of immigrants that we have at the moment in here. matthew i've got to go to you on this . we got to go to you on this. we also are not being told how much more money we're going to send. >> it's extraordinary. and also, apparently now that we the questions that need to be asked post the supreme court ruling may offend rwanda. so they may withdraw from it. i think ryecroft has also said today, i mean, just on that footage there, you saw lee in fiery form, but you also saw the woman speaking was diana johnson, who's chair of the who's the labour chair of the committee, with the committee, who came up with the great do you have any great line, do you have any figures on any figures? it figures on any figures? and it seems they didn't. mean, seems they didn't. i mean, i've worked long worked in politics for a long time and thought seen kind time and i thought i'd seen kind of of it style or yes, of the thick of it style or yes, yes. minister style situations, but that's going to but that really that's going to be played again and again and again for time immemorial because we've lost because it shows that we've lost the has lost control the home office has lost control and it shows that politicians can't well, would >> well, well, well. i would argue. i'm just going to put
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this christine, just this to you, christine, just that show that actually not show how completely rubbish completely and utterly rubbish our civil is. know, our civil service is. you know, if had suella braverman, if if you had suella braverman, if you've got bobby generic , if you've got bobby generic, if you've got bobby generic, if you've even, let's just be you've got even, let's just be generous don't believe generous here. i don't believe this second, by the way. this for a second, by the way. let's be generous and say let's be generous here and say rishi to do rishi sunak wants to do a flipping about flipping thing about immigration. got immigration. okay and you've got people tipping and people like that tipping up and you're to be in you're asking them to be in charge of the show. charge of running the show. i mean, civil service, isn't it? >> shows who's in charge >> it shows you who's in charge of running show, doesn't it? of running the show, doesn't it? the servants. and it the civil servants. and it shouldn't but need i'm shouldn't be. but we need i'm not they're charge, not sure they're very in charge, are that's i'm saying. >> that's what i'm saying. >> that's what i'm saying. >> think they can. >> i don't think they can. they're busy counting they're too busy counting their gold and looking gold plated pensions and looking forward that. need to forward to all that. we need to take one of the take positive action. one of the things say oh, things that people say yes. oh, absolutely. people say we need the the jobs the immigrants to do the jobs that let's that the brits won't do. let's get those brits who get some of those brits who signed and are still signed off sick and are still off sick. let's get them back into the workforce, make it possible come possible for them to come back to it impossible to work, make it impossible for them don't we, for them not to. why don't we, for example, have a two tier national system so national insurance system so that anybody to employ that anybody who wants to employ a british pays less a british person pays less national insurance , anyone who national insurance, anyone who wants an well.
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national insurance, anyone who warthat's an well. national insurance, anyone who warthat's why an well. national insurance, anyone who warthat's why keir| well. national insurance, anyone who warthat's why keir starmer has >> that's why keir starmer has been very today. more that been very firm today. more that this discount at the moment where in where you can bring people in lower paid british worker lower paid than a british worker needs to stop and been needs to stop and has been really clear on that. >> we need it in >> we need to weight it in favour british >> we need to weight it in favour has british >> we need to weight it in favour has been british >> we need to weight it in favour has been cleartish >> we need to weight it in favour has been clear on that. workers has been clear on that. >> says a lot. can i just make a polite suggestion? actually that you migrants you could put channel migrants in charge the civil service? in charge of the civil service? and get almost and i think you'd get almost exactly result , exactly the same result, clearly, because they're not doing it in there doing anything about it in there at are they coming doing anything about it in there at uk's are they coming doing anything about it in there at uk's entertainingoming doing anything about it in there at uk's entertaining paper up uk's most entertaining paper of won't be bored as my of you, you won't be bored as my panel of news experts chews through latest headlines, through the latest headlines, hot press. but first, hot off the press. but first, i bnng bring you that exclusive interview former interview with trump's former right hand man, steve bannon, who comes out in defence of nigel farage and western culture. go anywhere .
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the people's channel. britain's news channel . the most news channel. the most entertaining paper review that you won't see anywhere else still to come. >> but now it's time for an exclusive interview with political mastermind and donald trump's former white house strategist, steve bannon. and just as the donald divides opinion across the pond, well, our nigel farage has sent this country the intolerant leftovers anyway, into meltdown with his charming display on the i'm a celebrity jungle. so how do political figures on the right fight back against the forces of cancel culture? i asked steve bannonif cancel culture? i asked steve bannon if farage is viewed by the establishment as a threat.
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and here's what he told me are threat. >> look, nigel farage is one of the most important figures in all of british political history because he led the brexit movement that really gave the sovereignty, gave sovereignty back to the british people, and they hate him for and they hate him for that. and they'll always hate him for that. trying to i mean, that. they're trying to i mean, the the think the president of the eu, i think is even today in the financial times you know , times of london says, you know, we'll accept britain back in one of the most significant political events in modern history is the brexit movement and what led to the united kingdom leaving the european union . it was the forerunner as union. it was the forerunner as the guy who ran trump's campaign as i said at the time, because i was running breitbart news and breitbart london with raheem kassam. that was really the predicate for the trump revolution. few months later, revolution. a few months later, brexit was that important. and of course, they're going try of course, they're going to try to nigel. they're really to destroy nigel. they're really going to try to destroy nigel for the simple reason they think he back in a research he could come back in a research alliance create alliance and actually create a populist party or populist movement, which is england needs
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a populist nationalist party more than they've ever because right now they're trying to once again crush the british people and destroy your sovereignty . and destroy your sovereignty. >> yeah, let's elaborate a bit on that about why it's so necessary in your view. i mean, we just ran an exclusive, by the way, at the top of my show about the increased terror threat. for example , earlier on. again, same example, earlier on. again, same show we've been talking about it, cabinet warfare, infighting in the government about net migration figures. and that's before we started talking about illegal migration. why do you think it's so important that there is some kind of populist leader , whether nigel would leader, whether nigel would refer to himself as that , i refer to himself as that, i don't know. but but that kind of figurehead at the moment in british politics going in that direction , if i could point direction, if i could point everybody to the telegraph today, allison pearson had one of the most brilliant pieces about the situation in ireland and the mothers of ireland .
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and the mothers of ireland. >> women in their 40s, 50s and 60s, women in ireland protecting their young daughters against this mass importation of fighting age males from north africa and from middle eastern countries. i mean , this is just countries. i mean, this is just common sense. the remember, the elites want to break the sovereignty of nations, the elites want to break the individual sovereignty of its citizens . they see their citizens. they see their citizens. they see their citizens as a problem . this is citizens as a problem. this is why you've had this mass migration everywhere and people are standing up to it. and these are standing up to it. and these are people are not are people that are not concerned ideologues. this is concerned of ideologues. this is just common sense. this is why geert out of geert wilders came out of nowhere in netherlands nowhere to win in netherlands the other day. this is this populist you're seeing. the other day. this is this populistthis you're seeing. the other day. this is this populistthis is you're seeing. the other day. this is this populistthis is common eing. the other day. this is this populistthis is common sense. it's just this is common sense. allison pearson lays it out. she's talking about mothers and she's not talking about mothers that are naturally conservative. she talking about mothers she is talking about mothers that have common they're that have common sense. they're trying to protect their daughters in daughters for what's happened in this migration . and the this mass migration. and the elites just want look elites just want to look the other and importantly, other way. and more importantly, and why pearson's and this is why pearson's article is important, that
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article is so important, that you're the problem, that the mothers problem . mothers are the problem. >> i just want to get you on one more if that's possible. more thing, if that's possible. it it sounds a bit it sounds like it sounds a bit showbiz , but actually think showbiz, but actually i think there's more it's there's a bit more to it. it's there's a bit more to it. it's the meghan and harry the meghan markle and harry effect chaos effect they're causing chaos in the there's book, omid the uk. there's this book, omid scobie out called end the uk. there's this book, omid scobie referringt called end the uk. there's this book, omid scobie referring to alled end the uk. there's this book, omid scobie referring to thed end the uk. there's this book, omid scobie referring to the endd the uk. there's this book, omid scobie referring to the end of game, referring to the end of our royal family what's your take on that whole sorry saga that's unfolding at the moment from his mother and from the queen >> you had two incredibly young men that were raised and harry's early career. and if you look at what he did in afghanistan and what he did in afghanistan and what he did in afghanistan and what he did, volunteering to the military, what when they tried to him, he wanted to go to protect him, he wanted to go out into dangerous missions. that incredible man. that is an incredible young man. and the monarchy's and i think for the monarchy's not england but also in not just in england but also in europe , it's real example of europe, it's a real example of what they want to produce. and he was incredibly impressive. my daughter point and daughter went to west point and served with 101st airborne in iraq during the war, and she would always tell me her admiration and the people at west point's admiration for harry for what he had done
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because he couldn't you know, he didn't have to volunteer. he could have taken a cushy job. he didn't that. always wanted didn't do that. he always wanted to way for his to go in harm's way for his country, defend country. to go in harm's way for his courthat defend country. to go in harm's way for his courthat is defend country. to go in harm's way for his courthat is incredibly country. to go in harm's way for his courthat is incredibly powerful. and that is incredibly powerful. if happened if you look at what's happened and to me, the reality and this is to me, the reality of our society today, i mean , of our society today, i mean, he's a shell of his former self. the stuff he says and comes up with. i just wince and say, my god , what happened to this guy? god, what happened to this guy? i it's a tragedy. and i i think it's a tragedy. and i think arc of his career, of think the arc of his career, of where he now , now is where he is now, now is a shining example of what wokeness will do to you, of what this culture will do to you. take a fine young man, a brave young man, man that represented the man, a man that represented the best quality of british society and british culture and quite frankly, the monarchy and look where it is today. it's just it's a it's a tragedy. it's a it's a true tragedy. i don't think it's a i don't think it's a entertainment story. i think it's story that cuts to think it's a story that cuts to the out of where the the heart out of where the united right now united kingdom is right now politically. think politically. and i think it cuts to heart of where people to the heart of where you people are as a society and a culture. >> well, heck of a lot
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>> well, it's a heck of a lot more to that interview. that will full on will all be available in full on on our youtube. okay. so make sure that you go to gb news youtube page . it's probably youtube page. it's probably about minutes, half an hour. about 20 minutes, half an hour. and mean, that guy just does and i mean, that guy just does not a machine not stop. it's like a machine gun. matthew laza i'll go to you on this one. he made reference there to the idea that we needed some kind of populist, white nationalist. >> he's a fascinating figure, but i'm not sure we need to take lectures i he lectures from him. i mean, he still his jail sentence still has his his jail sentence is hold while he is currently on hold while he appeals for one of the many charges facing him . and the charges facing him. and the trump revolution is one of the worst things to happen to american all time. american politics in all time. so, yeah, absolutely. because well, because i think the world was a much unsafe place with with trump in there and utter nonsense. >> look what biden's done to the world. the guy doesn't even know his name. >> supported ukraine, stood firm on nato . so i >> supported ukraine, stood firm on nato. so i mean, >> supported ukraine, stood firm on nato . so i mean, sorry, the on nato. so i mean, sorry, the idea of using joe biden and stood firm in the same sentence. >> that guy, you know, that quy's >> that guy, you know, that guy's got a rather interesting
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relationship with aeroplane stairs, doesn't it? >> don't angry. it's not >> don't be angry. it's not about it's about aeroplane stairs. it's about aeroplane stairs. it's about support to our key about giving support to our key allies and giving full allies and giving the full support transatlantic support to the transatlantic alliance has kept all alliance that has kept us all safe half a century. safe for half a century. >> bannon is clear. he >> steve bannon is clear. he thinks is a good thing. thinks populism is a good thing. do you know why not? >> i it's good to be >> i think it's good to be popular, populism this popular, but populism as this as this , this this this as this, this this movement, basically an movement, which is basically an excuse for a word for the far right . no, excuse for a word for the far right. no, but of excuse for a word for the far right . no, but of course, people right. no, but of course, people need politicians need to be in tune you tune with the public. so you know, the worst things are populists who aren't popular. but is but anything that's popular is far no no, no, no, no. far right. no no, no, no, no. i didn't say the exact opposite of what no, no . the what i said. no, no. the populist movement is an excuse to the far right. >> all right. all right. well it's spicy. >> be popular. be popular. >> be popular. be popular. >> got into you? touch. >> what's got into you? touch. but it. love it. right. but i love it. i love it. right. shut up now. okay coming up, former sunday former editor of the sunday express, martin townsend, joins me to me live in reaction to tomorrow's pages , as well tomorrow's front pages, as well as a bbc radio claiming as a bbc radio host claiming that working in predominantly that working in a predominantly white gives him white environment gives him mental issues . but next, mental health issues. but next, tomorrow's newspaper front pages are coming hot, and so is my
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news radio. let us bring you tomorrow's news tonight. >> now in the most entertaining evening paper of you anywhere on telly, the very first front pages have just been delivered for my press pack. look we start with the metro. six years after social media suicide tragedy . no social media suicide tragedy. no change, no excuse . devastating. change, no excuse. devastating. new report led by molly charity shows tech giants are still targeting millions of children with harmful content . a story with harmful content. a story they're clearly about whether or not social media is to blame for . well, i suppose child suicide really . the i now uk pensions really. the i now uk pensions triple lock under threat from 2025. this will be an important story for millions. an important story for millions. an important story going forward for millions and millions more people with an ageing population. tory right.
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and global finance watchdog called for britain to rethink state pension increases after next year's general election. it goes on a little bit as well. business secretary jacob rees—mogg says triple lock is no longer affordable. so that's concern growing for a lot of people. the guardian air pollution from fossil fuels kills 5 million people a year. us study reveals stark death toll leaders gather for cop toll as leaders gather for cop 28 climate summit. there's toll as leaders gather for cop 28 climate summit . there's also 28 climate summit. there's also a story at the bottom there which we are going to revisit in a little bit more detail. hamas claims youngest hostage killed by isis . as you are about to by isis. as you are about to find out, the story is even more evil and more sinister than that because the front of the daily telegraph goes hostage. a baby died in gaza . hamas claims died in gaza. hamas claims netanyahu pledges return to all out war as mediators raise hopes for truce extension. so it's a ten month old baby who'd been held hostage in gaza. the that baby has been killed. it was the youngest person to be taken hostage and it's died in captivity alongside apparently
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his four year old brother, their mother as well. and that's according to hamas. and said they are investigating the claims , say israel's defence claims, say israel's defence force and obviously, that is just absolutely sickening story. there isn't a i believe we might have a copy of the mirror as well. nightmare at a&e, they say. so it is a hospital nightmare story there in the mirror. right. okay, look , mirror. right. okay, look, before we delve into a story that's inside the book in the independent, there is one at the bottom of the telegraph here. 17,000 asylum seekers lost home office says civil servants at the home office has admitted as many as 17,000 rejected asylum seekers are missing. christine shocked, shocked. i am well , to shocked, shocked. i am well, to me it's a bit like an episode of yes, minister. >> it's the sort of thing that would happen. oh, i'm awfully sorry, minister. we've lost these asylum seekers who came out the same evidence out of the same evidence or lack of mean, that's what of evidence. i mean, that's what it is, isn't it? it's absolutely
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mind everybody mind boggling. everybody involved action mind boggling. everybody inynon—action action mind boggling. everybody inynon—action should action mind boggling. everybody inynon—action should be action mind boggling. everybody inynon—action should be sacked. or non—action should be sacked. >> well, the best thing, christine, is in the break, we had quick look at matthew had a quick look at sir matthew rycroft, secretary rycroft, the permanent secretary of who was the of the home office, who was the man the man without man who the man without the figures. turns that figures. and it turns out that he is a mathematics graduate from university oxford. from the university of oxford. so and he can't count. so it's just it's beyond, beyond parody. >> it just can't be true because they're all fleeing and they they're all fleeing war and they just help in this country. just want help in this country. so a lie . so it must be a lie. >> it is. i was going to >> i mean, it is. i was going to say, it's shocking. i mean, it's not shocking, is it? because this literally you what this is literally you know what a of people were thinking, a lot of people were thinking, can for go on there? >> just give up, don't they? if theyif >> just give up, don't they? if they if somebody disappears into they if somebody disappears into the or the aether, into the bush or whatever, the whatever, we have the countryside, up, countryside, they just give up, tear up the papers and that's it. >> there is the other story at the bottom of the heart of the telegraph front page. travellers can banned from council can be banned from council sites, actually victory sites, so actually a victory for common might argue common sense, you might argue the not always the supreme court not always being go. the supreme court not always beiiwell, go. the supreme court not always beiiwell, there go. the supreme court not always beiiwell, there we go. go. the supreme court not always beiiwell, there we go. but also >> well, there we go. but also potentially seriously, potentially seriously, potentially for why potentially seriously, pot need .ly for why potentially seriously, pot need fewer for why potentially seriously, pot need fewer people for why potentially seriously, pot need fewer people from why we need fewer people from oxbridge actually positions
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oxbridge actually in positions of power. i know that sounds very you very progressive, but then you look guy who in the same look at this guy who in the same day, talk of absolute day, right, you talk of absolute disasters day, it's disasters on the same day, it's emerged we are sending more emerged that we are sending more taxpayers money to rwanda to accommodate people who we legally send there. we legally can't send there. we don't how many people were don't know how many people were deported who've been refused asylum. lost 17,000 of asylum. we've lost 17,000 of them as well. there was something else as well that he did and was just did today. and it was just absolutely now, moving absolutely shocking. now, moving to different story. this is to on a different story. this is a one for a variety a fascinating one for a variety of different reasons. okay. now, this going be eye this is going to be in the eye tomorrow . this is going to be in the eye tomorrow. bbc radio this is going to be in the eye tomorrow . bbc radio five tomorrow. bbc radio five presenter niall says the overwhelmingly white workplace has taken a toll on his mental health. he states that he's seen a lot of people leave the bbc building because they couldn't deal with the culture. the bbc have defensively objected to the presenter's claims, saying they were not being racist , presenter's claims, saying they were not being racist, which he said was missing the point. were not being racist, which he said was missing the point . the said was missing the point. the bbc are yet to comment further than that and a that's i think i
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mean, it sounds as though obviously they deny it all. but i mean it sounds to the casual observer like it's a little bit racist. >> what a clown world we live in. i cannot believe i'm reading a headline like that. i mean , a headline like that. i mean, i've actually had words with nihal on twitter a few times whenever i mention immigration, he would pop up . he would pop up. >> i hope he's not doing that now and breaking the bbc guidelines. >> this country is 82% white right now . now that's a fact right now. now that's a fact going . down forget about that, going. down forget about that, nihal has got a man up. going. down forget about that, nihal has got a man up . you nihal has got a man up. you know, it is ridiculous that this is sending him over the edge. >> but is it, though? but the thing is, though, is it literally is it actually sending i >> -- >> it hasn't stopped him getting his show at radio five live his own show at radio five live just and being bbc presenter just and being a bbc presenter for years. i mean, it's just for 25 years. i mean, it's just do i can i can i claim because i'm with an overwhelmingly right wing that i that i it's wing panel that i that i it's damaging my mental health. well, can i sue? can i sue. >>— can i sue? can i sue. >> well, don't get any ideas,
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but to fair, you will but to be fair, you will probably have more of a case. right. because you it's right. because you know, it's just, we have robust just, you know, we have robust discussions you come on and discussions and you come on and do a stellar job and all of that do a stellarjob and all of that stuff just i mean, our mere existence, you the fact existence, you know, the fact that white people that the fact that white people seem to exist in your and seem to exist in your office and he's also i just say, he's also can i just say, talking the bbc here, talking about the bbc here, which is think many people which is i think many people might best be progressive and woke , you know, best bbc woke, you know, the best bbc moment entire career when moment is my entire career when i in bbc current affairs, i worked in bbc current affairs, the sort of people who make panorama and it was in the in the of downton abbey. the heyday of downton abbey. >> i stood up one day and we >> and i stood up one day and we were out who were trying to work out who would and who would would be upstairs and who would be i on a be downstairs. so i stood on a chair and can anybody went chair and said, can anybody went to put their to a comprehensive, put their hand and it was just me and hand up and it was just me and one secretary. yeah. and an editor at the time editor of panorama at the time who'd saint paul's posh who'd been to saint paul's posh pubuc who'd been to saint paul's posh public said, please, public school, said, oh, please, can in downstairs. can i be in down downstairs. absolutely genius. all staff service the bbc being service to the bbc being serious say of say that it's diversity of background, not ethnicity. that's biggest and background, not ethnicity. thatdon't biggest and background, not ethnicity. thatdon't haveest and background, not ethnicity. thatdon't have working and background, not ethnicity. thatdon't have working class you don't have working class voices in the bbc. >> i would thought is one >> i would have thought is one of diverse media
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of the more diverse media organisations. just organisations. so it's just a fact where he is , he's fact that where he is, he's moved of london, apparently moved out of london, apparently he's wherever. he's gone up to wherever. radio five. he's gone up to wherever. radio fiveyeah . >> yeah. >> yeah. >> you imagine? >> can you imagine? >> can you imagine? >> imagine a chance? >> can you imagine a chance? >> can you imagine a chance? >> but can i also just imagine a white athlete said something like this, you know, about the england which england athletics team, which has many black athletes. >> right. can you imagine the furore that would come from it? but he's all right just to say that he did work on the bbc asian network for some years as well. >> he's playing to the gallery, he's just playing to the gallery, get publicity gallery, trying to get publicity and it. and we've given it. >> maybe , maybe >> look, maybe, maybe, maybe this been, you know, lost this has been, you know, lost a little maybe he's got to little bit. maybe he's got to come out and clarify things. maybe bbc will come a bit on maybe the bbc will come a bit on this. but as someone who's from that neck woods as well, that neck of the woods as well, with he would have with respect, he would not have far go media city on the far to go from media city on the tram to find himself in some incredibly ethnically diverse areas. the idea that you are trapped in some kind. >> i've just remembered that i only he's a series for me. neil when i did religious programming and i can tell you that the two
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of the people who made it with him were both of colour. so it's like it's a bit dark, can i just say apparently he says he say so apparently he says he said he's at the said that that when he's at the bbc looks around and it's difficult. >> it's difficult because he doesn't see anyone like him . doesn't see anyone like him. >> but it's a white as adam says, we live in a white country that's why when that woman looked at said, we have a white balcony on buckingham palace, of course we have white, overwhelmingly white people on the balcony , but we are a white. the balcony, but we are a white. it's just also, fair to it's just also, to be fair to the bbc, true . the bbc, it's not true. >> well, you i mean, you have worked there. >> are thinking >> so you are thinking of the series this man made series that this very man made for a series of films for me about a series of films for me about a series of films for the religious show that i did on sunday mornings and for the religious show that i diwas sunday mornings and for the religious show that i diwas a unday mornings and for the religious show that i diwas a hijab' mornings and for the religious show that i diwas a hijab wearinggs and for the religious show that i diwas a hijab wearing muslim1d it was a hijab wearing muslim woman and a woman of mixed british white british and afro—caribbean heritage. so it's just not true. i can picture the people now directing nihal . people now directing nihal. >> he i mean, he particular room where he works that overwhelm dillian whyte in his environment. >> that's radio five up in
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salford. >> it's a middle age, white straight man. i really am the you're not middle aged. i feel like the enemy at the moment. what is going on with things like well obviously, look, like this? well obviously, look, hey, neil obviously feels incredibly this . incredibly strongly about this. >> well, he'd better have sick leave. >> well, this feels incredibly . >> well, this feels incredibly. >> well, this feels incredibly. >> it'll be on full pay. it'll be on full pay. >> and, you know, hey, maybe. maybe experience at maybe his specific experience at the like that. we await the beeb is like that. we await more but more comments, of course, but coming up on gp's putting patients at risk by overrelying on virtual instead of to face face appointments. my panel will thrash that one out later in in the greatest britain and union jack so make sure you stay tuned for that. but first, our unrivalled pay per view continues with the former editor of the sunday express, martin townsend . back in a .
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tomorrow's front pages today. now we've got the express for you.so now we've got the express for you. so this is the daily express smile of an innocent lost in a war with no end. gaza's youngest hostage, ten month old phoebe bass , has been month old phoebe bass, has been cruelly declared dead by hamas . cruelly declared dead by hamas. i mean, is there no end to the evil degenerate behaviour here? you know, that that ten month old, i mean, could literally be. i want to show you a picture again , could not be any more again, could not be any more innocent than that. there's just innocence personified died and you've got those people there who not hand that baby who would not hand that baby back. and people who stand back. and for people who stand up give up for that lot, seriously, give your wobble . they also your head a wobble. they also say this is at the top now, a kind of picture story of jeremy hunt. anger as hunt. don't go there. anger as chancellor told to scrap the triple lock to fund net zero. gosh, what i'm christine's worried about her pension being reduced pensioner so the triple lock is important to me and he's going to take my little pension,
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state pension to fund net zero, not zero. >> i'm going to i'm going round to see him sort him out to listen to all these scientists. >> they're always right. christine. we're all going to die. we're all going to fry all pensioners got perfectly content a few weeks ago because we were told lock was happening. >> and now hunt threatens to take how he take it away. how dare he is. >> unaffordable. >> he's unaffordable. politicians need to face up to it. >> yeah, but that headline, it's not a great headline. >> yeah, but that headline, it's not living|t headline. >> yeah, but that headline, it's not living|t helong. a. >> yeah, but that headline, it's not living|t helong.a. not >> living too long. it's not a great headline. tend to live great headline. i tend to live a longer. >> expectancy going down >> life expectancy is going down under government to under this government trying to lose purpose. under this government trying to los okay. all right. >> okay. all right. >> indestructible. >> you're indestructible. >> you're indestructible. >> christine, stop stop >> christine, stop now. stop now. we are going to go now. we are we are going to go to more front pages as to more of the front pages as well the former well with the former editor of the express partner the sunday express and partner at communications. at pagefield communications. martin martin, thank you martin tells martin, thank you very mean, it's got very much. i mean, it's got incredibly lively here, as i'm sure were just hearing. so sure you were just hearing. so the spice things the front pages of spice things up bit to say up a little bit to say the least. i'm ursula von der least. but i'm ursula von der leyen has astonishingly claimed that the next generation will fill our mistakes and rejoin the european union .
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fill our mistakes and rejoin the european union. i'm fill our mistakes and rejoin the european union . i'm getting this european union. i'm getting this up in front of me right now. it's on the front of the telegraph. there we go. so so the eu president thinks that the uk goofed it up when it comes to brexit the country is on brexit and the country is now on a of travel towards a direction of travel towards rejoining. martin your views ? rejoining. martin your views? >> she she would, wouldn't >> well, she she would, wouldn't she?i >> well, she she would, wouldn't she? i mean, she's not she's not going to turn around and say that we did the right thing and, you know, we finally got our freedom and we're away from the eu with two headquarters, eu with its two headquarters, one in brussels, one in strasbourg. it's huge army of , strasbourg. it's huge army of, you know , kind of very sort of you know, kind of very sort of spoilt sort of workers who get all kinds of perks. et cetera. et cetera. this massive bureaucracy that used to kind of oversee britain , she's not going oversee britain, she's not going to say that, you know, that we did right in leaving that. so it's exactly what you'd expect her to say. and actually don't think it's to happen at think it's going to happen at all. i think we're and we're all. i think we're out and we're going stay out, frankly. going to stay out, frankly. >> yeah, well, i know a lot of people will be in agreement with
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you look , the you there. and look, the pensions triple lock has reared its head a couple of times, including prompting christine hamilton scream the hamilton to nearly scream the house down when it sounded like we were going to swap the triple take pension off the take state pension off the elderly in order to fund a net zero agenda. i mean , is it is it zero agenda. i mean, is it is it unaffordable? is this just a sad reality of life with an ageing population or, you know , is it population or, you know, is it just complete madness and political suicide ? political suicide? >> i'd i think it's i think it's ridiculous to even consider dumping it. i think we've got to look after our elderly. i don't think people i don't think voters are going to are going to voters are going to are going to vote for stopping triple vote for stopping the triple lock in order to sort of deal with net zero. that's absolute nonsense . i don't i don't can't nonsense. i don't i don't can't understand where that's come from. is it come from a think tank or something? it just sounds mad to me. >> yeah i know indeed. and look, i just to finish you i just want to finish with you on this. i mean, it's on i just want to finish with you on tfront i mean, it's on i just want to finish with you on tfront of i mean, it's on i just want to finish with you on tfront of al mean, it's on i just want to finish with you on tfront of a fewean, it's on i just want to finish with you on tfront of a few , n, it's on i just want to finish with you on tfront of a few , actually, i the front of a few, actually, i think at least four of the front pages tomorrow. and hostage baby
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died in gaza the way the guardian have described it, hamas kills youngest hostage killed by israel. it's a ten month old who's kidnapped and has reportedly been killed. they say, by an israeli bombing alongside mother and brother . alongside mother and brother. and what do you make of this? i mean, the fact that we've had this hostage exchange, you know , this hostage exchange, you know, continuing a pace and a ten month old was not included in that, and that that ten month old has now died. and anyone who equivocates over hamas surely just needs to take one look at at that poor baby's face. yeah i mean, just it's just awful. >> it's a really sad story . mean, just it's just awful. >> it's a really sad story. i mean, i think the problem is that, you know, hamas are blaming the israelis, etcetera. the first casualty of war is always the is always the truth, isn't it ? um, you know, and the isn't it? um, you know, and the fact basically they just get mangled up in everything that's going on. i think the efforts to get women and children out of and to bring the hostages home
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has been magnificent, if i'm honest so far. and hopefully will continue and hopefully the ceasefire will continue as well. >> well, just on just on that, i mean, benjamin netanyahu is according to the reports and a couple of the papers tomorrow now just threatening a return to all out war. i mean, this would be the for want of a better phrase, ammunition that israel could. they just could. well use if they just wanted know, rampage wanted to, you know, rampage through continue. through and continue. i think many the would many people, by the way, would think were justified think they were justified in doing that. when you read headunes doing that. when you read headlines like this, do you think is potentially think that this is potentially going just a return to going to just see a return to complete carpet bombing of gaza, etcetera? well no, i would think that at the moment, i would think that the most likely thing is that we're going to continue to see this situation where the hamas are releasing hostages and the israelis are releasing, you know, palestine prisoners and, you know, i would hope that that would continue for a little while yet. >> is an awful story. but >> this is an awful story. but i think the and, you know, nobody
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is going to going to feel anything but but sort of hopelessness that . but i hopelessness about that. but i think the actual process is moving now. and let's just keep our fingers crossed and pray that, you know, we get few more hostages out and that that process continues for a while . yeah. >> look, martin, thank you very much. i hope to chat to you again very, very soon. that's martin townsend. there is a former editor of the daily express. right. it is time now to reveal today's greatest britain and union jackass . now britain and union jackass. now i'm going to go to christine first for greatest britain. go go. >> right. well, this is a lady who people may not have heard of. she's called dr. alka sehgal. cuthbert, who happens to be a woman of colour, which is relevant because she has called out the bbc over their obsession with white privilege. they have a children's programme called newsround continue to newsround and they continue to peddle distortions to peddle historical distortions to children about white privilege . children about white privilege. and it is outrageous. tiny kids are being brainwashed by the bbc
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and she has had the courage to call them out. >> well, have any idea what kind of what kind of stuff are they? are they poisoning young people's minds with basically, if you're white, your privileged , no mention. >> and they've admitted that an article was too simplistic, haven't they, that they know, but pushing out on but they still pushing it out on their news. their website, their news. >> there's no mention the >> there's no mention of all the other factors come into other factors that may come into play. if you're white, play. it's just if you're white, you're privileged. i'm looking forward on you're privileged. i'm looking forvplight on you're privileged. i'm looking forvplight of on you're privileged. i'm looking forvplight of the on you're privileged. i'm looking forvplight of the white on you're privileged. i'm looking forvplight of the white workingon the plight of the white working class boy. >> exactly . >> exactly. >> precisely. >> precisely. >> but in salford, in salford, in salford , mine is nigel farage in salford, mine is nigel farage itv have obviously plotted a hit job on him, but it's backfiring and the public are loving him. >> and i think he's coming across very genuine and very likeable . likeable. >> okay. all right. and i mean, itv would obviously deny and indeed do deny that they have planted a hit job on nigel farage. but there are articles out there on the express online vine and in another online
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publication , nation as well, publication, nation as well, which make reference to nigel. >> i don't think they thought they needed to do hit job they needed to do a hit job because they thought because i think they thought that it himself. that he would do it for himself. >> he intelligent for that. >> he is intelligent for that. well, all right. >> well, we'll that one >> well, we'll park that one there now. sorry, matthew. there for now. sorry, matthew. who's britain. who's your greatest? britain. >> nominated >> well, i should have nominated keir firm keir starmer for his very firm stance on immigration today, but actually, for actually, i've gone for non—political aitken, actually, i've gone for non—fa.itical aitken, actually, i've gone for non—fa great aitken, actually, i've gone for non—fa great british aitken, actually, i've gone for non—fa great british eccentric, who's a great british eccentric, who's a great british eccentric, who's ambitious £60 who's leading an ambitious £60 million to rebuild what million project to rebuild what was the world's first opera house venice . you know, that house in venice. you know, that great tradition of passionate great tradition of a passionate british eccentrics doing things around bringing our picture up again. >> just quickly. sorry. can we can we please and find a way can we please try and find a way of bringing that of bringing up bringing that quy's of bringing up bringing that guy's because guy's picture up again? because i think, i'll be honest with you about saw all about what i saw there. all right. and it was not initially a whitty, whitty, a chris whitty, chris whitty, it just like. just look a bit like. >> whitty yeah, >> chris whitty yeah, yeah, that's thought you were that's what i thought you were going right? going for anyway, right? >> okay. he's not one whitty or whatever called paul whatever he's called today. paul the britain of the greatest britain is of course, right now course, nigel farage right now and , okay. and a new and oh, jackass, okay. and a new article has been created to make
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clear that both the use of the term white privilege and the way it is used is a contested area. that's from the bbc that was in relationship christine hamilton well, i'm glad they're listening. go. right. okay. so we all listen to you, christine. >> we're going to go to uni and jackass, the union jackass. >> this is sir matthew >> well, this is sir matthew ryecroft , who permanent ryecroft, who is the permanent secretary home office. secretary at the home office. and simon ridley not yet , sir. and simon ridley not yet, sir. yet. who's the interim second permanent secretary? they are the wally's couldn't the two wally's who couldn't supply answers to the home supply the answers to the home affairs committee. went affairs committee. they went there to information. they there to give information. they knew were going do. knew what they were going to do. >> you might win, christine. >> they couldn't do it. >> and they couldn't do it. i mean, what a load of jackasses to kind. >> em- >> okay, go on. >>— >> okay, go on. >> mine rishi sunak. >> okay, go on. >> mine rishi sunak . the >> mine is rishi sunak. the prime he's the weakest prime minister he's the weakest leader that we could possibly have at this time. and we need a strong leader. i despair at the future. >> you've turned into me, adam. well, i'd back yours, but mine are britain's gps because a new study today , young star search. study today, young star search. >> well, you are of the left. yeah. and you are calling nhs
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workers jackasses. >> well , because. workers jackasses. >> well, because. but workers jackasses. >> well , because. but because >> well, because. but because it's labour has been very clear. the nhs needs to get better. so it's not it's not about worshipping it blindly , it's worshipping it blindly, it's about having a health service that delivers . but you haven't that delivers. but you haven't got, after years of tory got, after 13 years of tory failure, today's union jackass, you never got me to tell you why those numpties from home those numpties from the home office wasn't just britain's gp. >> all right. thank you very much, everybody. wonderful panel much, everybody. wonderful panel, wonderful panel. it's been lively chat . i'll be back been a lively chat. i'll be back again tomorrow at 9 pm. good night . night. >> a brighter outlook with boxing for sponsors of whether on . gb news. on. gb news. >> good evening. welcome to your latest gb news weather update from the met office. thursday will be another cold day. there's still some dry and sunny weather to be had , but we do weather to be had, but we do also have some snow and ice warnings in force for thursday morning across the northeast . we morning across the northeast. we could see some snow showers continuing throughout tonight, but across the southwest
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but it's across the southwest coast where this area of rain will push up from the south, bumping into the cold air, bringing to southern bringing some snow to southern areas, mainly across the high ground and cornwall. ground of devon and cornwall. but see a dusting of but we could see a dusting of snow far east as parts of snow as far east as parts of wiltshire. potentially some wiltshire. so potentially some snow and ice out there tomorrow morning. there's also an ice risk across parts northern risk across parts of northern ireland . and it will be ireland as well. and it will be a start once again, a cold start once again, a colder start than this morning. tomorrow morning, colder start than this morning. tomorrow morning , the snow tomorrow morning, the snow showers will continue across northeastern areas throughout thursday. this area of rain, sleet and snow will continue to affect the far southwest as well through much of the day. before it does, then sink southwards into evening . in between, into the evening. in between, though, we've got a good deal of sunshine. feeling sunshine. it will be feeling cold, though temperatures still only 3 or 4 degrees for only reaching 3 or 4 degrees for many areas . some areas of many areas. some areas of scotland sticking with a frost, all day. another very cold all day. so another very cold start to friday. much of that rain has now cleared the south, but we will see some patches of freezing fog around. these could be quite slow to clear throughout friday and elsewhere,
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gb news you with gb news the top story tonight, 16 hostages held in gaza have been freed tonight on the final day of a two day extension to the pause in fighting between israel and hamas. >> the international committee of the red cross said tonight it had facilitated the latest hostage prisoner swap, including
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an american dual citizen , a an american dual citizen, a dutch dual citizen and three german dual citizens. dutch dual citizen and three german dual citizens . we're german dual citizens. we're expecting more palestinians to be released as well tonight from israeli jails. in exchange, qatar indicating that perhaps 30 palestinians will be released. meanwhile, talks are ongoing in an effort to extend the humanitarian truce that so far lasted six days in use here in the uk. sir keir starmer said today the government is to blame for record migration figures as he promised to scrap laws that allows workers from overseas to be paid less than british workers . the prime minister be paid less than british workers. the prime minister and the labour leader clashed during prime minister's questions earlier on today with sir keir reminding mps of the government's promise to reduce legal migration back in 2019. rishi sunak did concede that immigration levels are still too high, but he said the number is coming down and sir elton john was in parliament today talking about a new project aiming to
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