have said that they've considered leaving the uk amid a staggering rise in discrimination towards them. so what do we make to all of this now.7 the what do we make to all of this now? the conflict in the middle east really is affecting the streets of the uk. what is the answer to it all? and lucy letby remember her? she was, of course, convicted for killing multiple babies. anyway she is now being moved to a prison which says its main aim is to , i which says its main aim is to, i quote, change lives for the better. oh, it sounds lovely . better. oh, it sounds lovely. nice cell tv, phone and an en suite is jail a little bit too cushy ? and an asian bbc cushy? and an asian bbc presenter has described how working with mainly white people is affecting his mental ill health. what do you make to that . yes, indeed. we've got all of that to come. i've got aaron bastani and peter hitchens alongside me tonight. but before

we get stuck in, let's cross live to aaron armstrong for tonight's latest news headlines . tonight's latest news headlines. >> a very good evening to you, aaron armstrong here in the gb newsroom. at 6:10, two more hostages have been released from gaza in the latest prisoner hostage swap between hamas and israel . in hostage swap between hamas and israel. in the hostage swap between hamas and israel . in the last hour, the israel. in the last hour, the woman, a 21 year old french dual national and a 40 year old, are believed to have arrived at the sheba medical centre in tel aviv. we're also expecting more captives held by hamas to be released this evening, marking the seventh day of the current pause in fighting. the seventh day of the current pause in fighting . meanwhile, pause in fighting. meanwhile, the israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu, has reiterated his belief that israel will eradicate hamas, the terror group, after it claimed responsibility for a shooting that killed three people in jerusalem . at least eight others jerusalem. at least eight others were injured in the attack. it took place at a bus stop during rush hour outside the entrance to the capital. police say the

two suspected attackers were neutralised on the spot by off duty officers who here in the uk, matt hancock , told the covid uk, matt hancock, told the covid inquiry the nation should have gone into lockdown three weeks earlier than it did the former health secretary says it would have saved many lives if we'd had. >> the doctrine that i propose , >> the doctrine that i propose, which is as soon as you know, you've got to lock down, you lock down as soon as possible, then we would have got the lockdown done over that weekend then we would have got the lo

including verifying new advertisers and removing fraudulent content quickly. james cleverly says it's the culmination of a huge amount of work working together , for we work working together, for we are seeking to achieve what they want, which is a reduction of fraud on their platforms . fraud on their platforms. >> what we want, which is a reduction of fraud against british people . there is british people. there is a mutual benefit here that's why they're working with us. that's why they've engaged with anthony brown and the british government. and that's why we are holding this world first, signing of a joint work to drive down online fraud . down online fraud. >> a former chancellor alistair darling, has died at the age of 70. lord darling served as a cabinet minister under tony blair and gordon brown for 13 years, becoming chancellor in two thousand and seven, he guided the country through the global financial crisis and remained in the post until mr brown lost the election in 2010. the former prime minister has honoured his colleague, saying alistair darling was more than a

seasoned politician . seasoned politician. >> i think we've also got to remember he was a great family man. his partnership with maggie is something that was quite a wonderful thing to see. and of course he had huge pride, rightly so , in the achievements rightly so, in the achievements of his son calum and his daughter anna, and my thoughts are with this family who are suffering very much today . suffering very much today. >> shane macgowan, the front man of the pogues, has died at the age of 65. he was discharged from hospital last week after being diagnosed with encephalo itis. the singer who was born on christmas day, is best known for the 1987 hit fairytale of new york. elvis costello once bet the irishman he couldn't write a christmas hit. well, macgowan promptly wrote and performed one of the most cherished festive songs. he died peacefully with his wife by his side. rmt members have voted overwhelmingly to accept a deal to end their long running dispute over pay and conditions, as it's understood to include a backdated pay rise of 5% for last year and a guarantee that

no compulsory redundancies will be made until the end of next yeah be made until the end of next year. train drivers represented by the aslef union, though, are still set to strike. mick lynch, the general secretary of the rmt, says it proves that sustained strike action gets results and as the cold snap sets in, some parts of the uk could see up to ten centimetres of snow overnight. it's already swept across south—west england , swept across south—west england, parts of yorkshire, the north—east and scotland . and the north—east and scotland. and the bad news or good depending on how you feel about snow. more is expected to come. yellow weather warnings have been issued across large parts of the uk. temperatures are expected to drop well below freezing and the warnings are in place for parts of scotland, england and northern ireland 11:00 northern ireland until 11:00 tomorrow morning . so wrap up tomorrow morning. so wrap up warm. this is gb news. we're on tv, digital radio, and on your smart speaker, too. now it's over to. michelle >> thanks for that, aaron. and

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but before i do, i noticed at the talk the covid inquiry in the talk of the covid inquiry in the talk of the covid inquiry in the headlines, what you make the headlines, what do you make of covid inquiry? very of this covid inquiry? very briefly, . briefly, peter. >> it should be sent >> i think it should be sent home and wound it has no home and wound up. it has no purpose. already made its purpose. it's already made its mind up that it's going to say, i can predict it now that we should have using that horrible prison phrase that everyone adopted. locked adopted. we should have locked down sooner and we should have locked down harder and we should have down longer. that's have locked down longer. that's the that interested the only thing that interested in remotely in saying they're not remotely interested possibility of interested in the possibility of the mistake. the whole thing was a mistake. and anybody before them and if anybody comes before them who tending in that who might be tending in that direction, they won't listen to them . and that's really all one them. and that's really all one can say about it. there is absolutely no point in this inquiry continuing. what inquiry continuing. we know what he'll what it will say he'll say and what it will say will be extremely damaging. it is what happened is as if what happened in sweden had never happened at all. the country didn't plunge into country which didn't plunge into this panic and this ridiculous panic and which had better results than we did. aaron, i think an inquiry is a wise thing to do, but it's already cost more than £100 million. >> it's predicted to go beyond the saville which was the saville inquiry, which was £195 million. how on earth do

you spend that much money on some lawyers compiling reports and cross—examined ing people? i don't quite understand £200 million. i mean, it's almost like there should be an inquiry into the inquiry and of course when you get to that point, you probably, like peter says, give up. >> what do you guys motorway home? do you follow the covid inquiry do you want answers? do you think it is a waste of time? do actually think that do you actually think that whatever outcome is, do you whatever the outcome is, do you think actually will be think lessons actually will be learnt? there be learnt? and should there be another pandemic? do you actually think lessons will actually think that lessons will be change be learnt and things will change going ? i've to say going forward? i've got to say i don't. and that key question of should locked down the should we have locked down the first does seem first place does indeed seem to be getting focus that be not getting the focus that perhaps deserves. we haven't perhaps it deserves. we haven't heard, from boris heard, of course, yet from boris johnson. that one will be popcorn once it when that happens. anyway, it is saint andrew's if you're andrew's day today so if you're scottish. hello are you having a good day? i want to therefore focus on that neck of the woods because things because there's a few things going i couldn't help going on that i couldn't help but the for example, but notice. the snp for example, seem getting an absolute

seem to be getting an absolute battering in most of the polls at the moment. predicted to get at the moment. predicted to get a big kicking from the labour party. also, as well. you might have noticed the alba party today proposing alex salmond party of course proposing their ideas and plans for what they want to see happen when it comes to giving holyrood scottish parliament more powers when it comes to having perhaps another referendum on scottish independence guidance. now start wherever you want snp or the new powers potentially , or powers potentially, or aspirational powers for another independence referendum. peter well first thing to note is the absolutely astonishing achievement of the snp in becoming a serious political party out of virtually nothing as it was during most of my life, and then becoming the accepted government of scotland . accepted government of scotland. >> and to imagine that somehow or other it's just going to fade away because of few opinion polls, seems to me to be unlikely. i'm not a scottish

nationalist , though i can nationalist, though i can absolutely see why people are and why they would think that independence might be a good route to take and i understand the impulse is a very strongly anybody who's never felt the desire for national independence has got something wrong with them. i'm just not sure it's practical myself. but i'm not i'm not as many english conservatives are bitterly against them. i see their point . against them. i see their point. and i also don't see any point at all in having a united kingdom whose members are compelled to if compelled to belong to it. if people to belong to people don't want to belong to this then they they this country, then they they should permitted to leave. should be permitted to leave. but always say if but we should also always say if they do leave, that they will be welcomed at any time and welcomed back at any time and keep a light burning. are keep a light burning. those are those positions on it. i those are my positions on it. i don't think at the moment that they're through a they're going through a good time had time because they've had a catastrophe which can befall any party of internal division and they've lost , first of all, in they've lost, first of all, in in alex salmond, probably the cleverest political leader in in these islands of modern times. first and then nicola sturgeon,

who was not inspiring, but certainly seemed to keep the ship on an even keel has now gone. and so there's a feeling of restlessness and labour, of course , is very likely to be to course, is very likely to be to be successful in the coming national general election. so the opinion polls will probably show a kind of tribal rush back towards labour. but whether it means the end of scottish nationalism, i think i wouldn't i wouldn't hold your breath . i i wouldn't hold your breath. i wouldn't be too sure. >> where are you on it? >> where are you on it? >> i think peter's made a very lucid argument there. i think scotland is moving to a two party system. the point is the two parties and the two parties are labour and the snp. have something a snp. we have something of a winner all approach in winner takes all approach in this with our electoral this country with our electoral system are some polls system. so there are some polls out there putting the snp ten points above labour at not many. there's 2. they would still there's 1 or 2. they would still actually keep most their seats. there are others where like you say, would catastrophe say, it would be a catastrophe for and that be for the snp and that seems to be the direction travel. i think the direction of travel. i think what says is absolutely what pete says is absolutely spot with salmond and spot on with alex salmond and nicola sturgeon . you had era

nicola sturgeon. you had two era defining politicians. you're very lucky as a political party to have one. they had two in quick succession. the question is now do they have the personnel to carry that on? statistically improbable, but to finish , i think what peter said finish, i think what peter said about scottish nationalism being here for the long term is absolutely correct. most young scots nationalism . they scots support nationalism. they support national independence. the question is, will they be the future bureaucrats, orators , the future bureaucrats, orators, policy makers, intellectuals , policy makers, intellectuals, journalists driving this agenda forward? and so i think, look, labour probably will win most seats up there next year, but if labour don't perform in the 4 or 5 years after that, the snp will be waiting in the wings and i can't see the conservatives lives coming back as a force in scotland anytime soon. there's another reason for the eclipse of nationalism, another reason for the eclipse of nationalism ionalism, another reason for the eclipse of nationalism in|alism, another reason for the eclipse of nationalism in the m, another reason for the eclipse of nationalism in the united is nationalism in the united kingdom has been hugely promoted or promoted by our or was hugely promoted by our membership european union or was hugely promoted by our nwhichrship european union or was hugely promoted by our nwhich encouraged european union or was hugely promoted by our nwhich encouraged eurc break union or was hugely promoted by our nwhich encouraged eurc break up on , which encouraged the break up of member nations into of its member nations into regions and sub nations and actually i think was was more

than happy for it to take place. >> and the sort of independence that scotland could have dreamt of under alex salmond and nicola sturgeon would be an independence within the european union , which would actually be union, which would actually be a transfer of dependence from london to brussels and not independence now independence at all. now they can't realistically expect to join the european union. i i don't know whether this is even workable. i think people instinctively see a difficulty here and a roadblock. so i have a feeling that the there is another crisis coming for this country over its relations with the european union, possibly ten years hence. but i think whatever happens in scotland will be mixed up with that. >> do you agree with that ? is >> do you agree with that? is that fair? >> i that's right . and i >> i think that's right. and i think peter is correct that brexit initially so many scottish thought brexit initially so many scotis h thought brexit initially so many scotis manna thought brexit initially so many scotis manna from thought brexit initially so many scotis manna from heaven|t brexit initially so many scotis manna from heaven for this is manna from heaven for us, but actually it's made their job bit more difficult and job that bit more difficult and independent scotland what currency ? it currency would it now have? it wouldn't the pound, wouldn't have the pound, presumably, although snp's presumably, although the snp's position initially position is they would initially . would the euro? well

. would it have the euro? well if you're not in the eu, how will you have the euro. it's a, it's a real mess and i think peter's right that the roadblocks at present are entirely practical. currency central bank pensions. i think most people who even don't agree with national independence say scotland is a nation. it has a history. it has a people. it has its own legal and political bodies up in scotland. that's fine. we want them to have more powers . the question is, how far powers. the question is, how far do you go with that? i also don't know about the next steps here because labour most likely over the next sort of 4 or 5 years would delegate powers years would delegate more powers to and cardiff as well to edinburgh and cardiff as well , and possibly northern ireland to and the argument would be, well, this will pacify and mitigate that nationalist impulse. but of course the experience of the last 20 years is that is really is all that does is really fanned the flames. yeah. >> i was listening penny >> and i was listening to penny morton she was speaking morton as well. she was speaking out. i mean, she really wasn't pulling any punches in parliament. you parliament. i don't know if you heard today. reminder if

heard this today. a reminder if you it, the snp really you missed it, the snp really have surpassed themselves this week in terms of being self—obsessed, self—pitying and self—delusional. >> the snp are losing the case for independence, but despite that, the scottish government being one of the most powerful devolved administrations in the world, it can't accept responsibility for anything . so responsibility for anything. so given that they have been in power for 16 years and every single one of those years, their budget has been 20% higher than england , who does she think it england, who does she think it is that is responsible for scotland's declining a&e performance increased waiting times 70% hike in drug related deaths, 10% increase in the attainment gap. the ten years they've been missing their cancer targets and their housing targets all rising crime or soaring violence in schools or the lowest police numbers since 2008. >> i can tell you now right. that went on and on and on. what was you about to say? it sounds

like what sounds like england. >> i mean, it's a bit of a strange thing to attack a scottish politician, although, you might want to look in your own that own back yard carrying that sword have gone to sword around may have gone to her head. >> think? >> do you think? >> do you think? >> well, i when i was listening to that, do think that to that, i do think that sometimes politicians because i would that, too, when would often say that, too, when people are here they're people are here and they're representing the for representing the tories, for example. always say to representing the tories, for exampwhen always say to representing the tories, for exampwhen you're/ays say to representing the tories, for exampwhen you're describing them, when you're describing things, been your watch, things, it's been on your watch, it's been on watch, that things, it's been on your watch, it's iofen on watch, that things, it's been on your watch, it's iof things watch, that things, it's been on your watch, it's iof things have atch, that things, it's been on your watch, it's iof things have declined. so lots of things have declined. so i that was a very i do think that was a very passionate attack but passionate attack there. but also the irony what's gone also the irony of what's gone on in country. while in this country. while the tories have presided over it seems to be also well. seems to be lost also as well. can't mention can't not mention scotland without mentioning alistair darling. of very darling. of course, very sad news passing. he news today of his passing. he was prominent in better was very prominent in the better together campaign well, together campaign as well, wasn't he, 2014? of course, wasn't he, in 2014? of course, as being former as well as being our former chancellor which odd chancellor, which was odd considering was his considering that it was his party had really created party which had really created the the whole crisis in the whole the whole crisis in the whole the whole crisis in the first place. >> remember going edinburgh >> i remember going to edinburgh once and him once for some debate and him saying to me as i walked into the room, welcome to our country. i said i thought i

country. and i said i thought i was already our country, but was already in our country, but the mixed up the labour was very mixed up with nationalism in its in its early stages, thinking that by by feeding the beast, it would it would quell it . and i think it would quell it. and i think it would quell it. and i think it came as a considerable surprise to them that what they had actually they had had actually done was they had created real, real risk of created a real, real risk of scottish national independence. and of course, their own destruction north of the border, which very nearly took place. i mean, they were recovering from wait they were wait a bit now, but they were wiped out. >> and i mean, tributes have really been pouring in, especially labor party, of especially from labor party, of course, alistair course, for alistair darling. your him, thoughts course, for alistair darling. yo him? him, thoughts course, for alistair darling. yo iwell, him, thoughts course, for alistair darling. yo iwell, it him, thoughts course, for alistair darling. yo iwell, it should him, thoughts course, for alistair darling. yo iwell, it should be n, thoughts course, for alistair darling. yo iwell, it should be said)ughts course, for alistair darling. yo iwell, it should be said thatts >> well, it should be said that him gordon brown came in for him and gordon brown came in for a of particularly a lot of flak, particularly gordon brown, towards tail gordon brown, towards the tail end new labour end of the new labour government. did oversee government. but they did oversee a major existential crisis for this country in the two thousand and seven 2008 financial crash . and seven 2008 financial crash. and i do wonder if the politicians we've had since then if somebody like a johnson or a theresa may or a rishi sunak , if theresa may or a rishi sunak, if they'd been at the helm or even david cameron, how different would things have been? that's

an open question. i'm an open question. maybe i'm being unfair, but i think being very unfair, but i think actually further time that actually the further time that passes since 2008, the more obvious it is to me at least, that they did a half decent job. >> what do you think society would be if those people would be like if those people were at the helm? would it have been we'd be sitting here been better we'd be sitting here now position or now in a better position or worse? me know all of your worse? let me know all of your thoughts. i've got lot coming worse? let me know all of your thoin hts. i've got lot coming worse? let me know all of your thoin the i've got lot coming worse? let me know all of your thoin the programme. t coming worse? let me know all of your thoin the programme. i'mming worse? let me know all of your thoin the programme. i'm lucy up in the programme. i'm lucy letby. apparently been letby. apparently she's been moved prison. i think moved to a prison. i think it sounds like quite nice place. sounds like quite a nice place. and i'm asking, do you think prisons are a little bit too cushy days? also, as well, cushy these days? also, as well, i'm asking the war, the situation now gaza, this situation now in gaza, is this now the safety on now affecting the safety here on british streets? i would british streets? it's i would suggest is a are you okay at suggest it is a are you okay at the moment? do you feel safe? are we doing do you are we doing enough, do you think, keep safe think, to keep people safe on the streets britain? you tell the streets of britain? you tell me. i'll see you .

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>> this is gb news radio show. >> hi there, i'm michelle dewberry with you till seven. the columnist broadcaster peter hitchens alongside me as is the writer and co—founder of novara media , aaron bastani. lots of media, aaron bastani. lots of you guys getting in touch. i asked you briefly at the start of the programme what you make to the covid inquiry. long story short, pretty all of you short, it pretty much all of you that have touch are that have got in touch are telling you think it's a telling me you think it's a waste of time, effort and money. mary hindsight is mary says hindsight is a wonderful thing. the of wonderful thing. at the end of the day, nobody knew the day, michel, nobody knew what they were doing or how to deal with it all now just deal with it. it all now just looks like a blame game. desperate try and find desperate to try and find a scapegoat. is there out scapegoat. is there anyone out there thinks complete there that thinks the complete opposite this is an opposite that perhaps this is an inquiry desperately opposite that perhaps this is an inquiry and desperately opposite that perhaps this is an inquiry and that;perately opposite that perhaps this is an inquiry and that yourtely opposite that perhaps this is an inquiry and that yourtel'indeed needed and that you do indeed trust to uncover trust that it's going to uncover all right information and all the right information and that lessons will be learned and things differently. things will be done differently. if touch and if you exist, get in touch and tell me. fascinated to hear tell me. i'm fascinated to hear why. right? it's a big story i want to discuss with you tonight. we all know, of course, the situation the israel gaza the situation in the israel gaza conflict. asking tonight conflict. but i'm asking tonight specifically that is specifically about how that is impacting the streets of impacting here on the streets of britain, apparently,

britain, because apparently, according to security sources, the terror threat level has recently been raised in france and belgium following separate attacks there. we've got a situation where a to one report half of british jews have said that they've considered leaving the uk due to a rise in anti—semitism and security sources been talking to us at gb news as well, saying that they believe a terror attack in the uk linked to the conflict in gazais uk linked to the conflict in gaza is likely only a matter of time . goodness me, peter time. goodness me, peter hitchens, what do you make some of this what do all these things mean? >> i have no idea. >> i have no idea. >> i have no idea. >> i live on the basis that it's quite possible there could be a terrorist attack of some kind in this country at any time. but i doubt very much whether it would have would have direct link have it would have a direct link with of this sort. also, with events of this sort. also, there's in this there's a great tendency in this country miscarry surprise country to miscarry surprise events of horrible violence as terrorists when in fact, when you examine them, they turn out to be people . with with serious

to be people. with with serious mental problems. generally following drug abuse, running amok, who are then classified as terrorists in my view, mistakenly, and we're all told that we're that this is some kind of terrorist, they don't make sense as terrorist attacks. many of these events, the people who who actually commit them don't really know what they're doing acts themselves doing. the acts themselves couldn't conceivably advance any cause these people might cause that these people might possibly espouse . they make no possibly espouse. they make no sense. they're not part of any coordinated campaign. there is a tendency in this country to exaggerate the existence the exaggerate the existence and the nature terrorists it nature of terrorists to say it can't happen or won't happen. it might happen, but i doubt might well happen, but i doubt very capacity very much the capacity of our vaunted services to vaunted security services to know if they're going to happen. i think these, these these are vast and expensive organisations is almost completely immune from any kind of examination . are do any kind of examination. are do have some reason to. how should i put this. advocate their own existence by by spreading the material of this sort. but i think we should be a bit more sceptical about it. honestly,

you to the extent that people can prepare for terrorist actions, we should prepare for them. but half the point of terrorism is to make us frightened. if we spend all frightened. and if we spend all our frightened our time being frightened without attacked, without even being attacked, then very much doing then then we are very much doing then then we are very much doing the of the terrorists. the job of the terrorists. >> we. i'm surprised that you don't the actions in don't think that the actions in gaza make people or gaza would make people or certain people do something on the streets in their name. >> i don't see the logical link between the two. >> why would that? >> why would that? >> because people don't appreciate it. innocent people in palestine and having bombs rained down on their head 24 over seven and they would expect the governments here or the government pushing government here to be pushing back trying to do something back and trying to do something to the activity. they to stop the activity. and they would perhaps hold this government accountable, directly accountable for not doing that. i would imagine, honestly, accountable for not doing that. i woulchasagine, honestly, accountable for not doing that. i woulchasagine, quite tly, accountable for not doing that. i woulchasagine, quite av, accountable for not doing that. i woulchasagine, quite a small britain has really quite a small influence over these matters. >> in any case, it would, if there were international terrorist bodies thinking of taking action over this, which there might be. i don't really see why britain would be at the top of their list. >> i don't think it would be

international activities, but i think lone wolves or whatever they're called. but anyway, let me in bastani. there me bring you in bastani. there aron, thoughts . aron, for your thoughts. >> school . i think that's >> school. i think that's i think that's right. right. to an extent. i think it would be more individuals, lone wolves. i don't think anybody saying i don't think anybody saying i don't think anybody seriously is saying hamas hezbollah have saying hamas or hezbollah have wing operating in the uk against the during the troubles is organised. >> it's a new thing on me. >> it's a new thing on me. >> if they do ideologically coherent precisely well coherent, precisely well equipped. think there probably equipped. i think there probably is a slightly greater chance of something like that happening because many individuals are because so many individuals are very atomised. perhaps have a sense of grievance and they would obviously be doing something it . would obviously be doing something it. but something appalling with it. but like michel, the like you say, michel, the context are happening context is things are happening in europe, so maybe it's more plausible . and what's more plausible. and what's more interesting to me is actually this question british jews this question about british jews being , because as being scared, because as somebody from a minority, somebody who's from a minority, i'm iranian , i have to say i'm half iranian, i have to say britain is one of the best countries in the world to not be from the majority culture. my

view to not be white british, you can still do a tremendous amount in this country. you can have a great life. you can get on, you have a family, you on, you can have a family, you can be left alone, you can think and do what you broadly and do what you want. broadly speaking. find it very speaking. and i find it very puzzling that so many people in this country who say they love this country who say they love this care for this this country, care for this country, respect this country. i'm talking british country, respect this country. i'm i'malking british country, respect this country. i'm i'm talking british country, respect this country. i'm i'm talking about ritish jews. i'm talking about commentators this say commentators discussing this say they're all scared and they're all fear. that's because all in fear. and that's because this is such an awful country which doesn't look after minorities. simply isn't which doesn't look after mino now, simply isn't which doesn't look after mino now, do simply isn't which doesn't look after mino now, do those ply isn't which doesn't look after mino now, do those same1't which doesn't look after mino now, do those same people true. now, do those same people have justified have legitimate, justified concerns what's happening? concerns about what's happening? of they do. but i think of course they do. but i think there's a bit of overkill going on if all of a sudden we're saying that for minorities or for jewish people or somebody else black people else might say for black people or for iranian people, britain is this awful place to be. and that simply is not the case. >> i don't think we're very tolerant. >> p- e fair, and i think >> we're very fair, and i think we're very just the thing here. >> and that's what's being said. i being said is, is i think what's being said is, is that jews this country are that jews in this country are are increasingly nervous about

their . and the reason their position. and the reason from history for jews to be nervous when people start shouting anti semitic slogans in the street for them to wonder where this might end . it might where this might end. it might end with nothing or it might end with something quite serious. and so you can't really ever dismiss that. >> that's a good word. i'm not dismissing it. when you see the scenes instance, dagestan, scenes for instance, dagestan, that somewhere where you have that is somewhere where you have a bone deep. my grandmother's from quite close to there. she's about 100, 150 miles south of there. she's jewish, owned by there. she's jewish, owned by the heritage down by the caspian. >> she's. >> she's. >> yeah. azeri jew. so you know thatis >> yeah. azeri jew. so you know that is somewhere where you go, wow, that's pretty extraordinary to but i also think we do to see. but i also think we do need to take i'm not dismissing those it's really those concerns. it's a really important make. i'm important point you make. i'm not dismissing those concerns. you take a step back you do have to take a step back and is britain still and say, is britain still a tolerant country, which very tolerant country, which is very fair, and to people fair, honest and just to people from non majority culture from the non majority culture to minorities ? yes, is. i'm minorities? rs yes, it is. i'm not dismissing anyone, but i think some perspective is

needed. yeah, but hold on, because that's all well and good in times. in normal times. >> these are not normal >> but these are not normal times. conflict going times. there is a conflict going on, we've just been on, as we've just been discussing, that, you know , discussing, and that, you know, we've some scenes on we've just seen some scenes on there. just to give you some there. so just to give you some context for this, so this is the campaign anti semitism, campaign against anti semitism, what they're saying , there's what they're saying, there's been a 1,300% increase in anti semitism . they're saying that semitism. they're saying that they have done a survey of british jews, which has shown us that six, 6 or 9% of that nearly six, 6 or 9% of almost 70% of british jews saying that they are less saying that they are now less likely to show visible signs of their apparently this their duties. apparently this same survey says that half of british jews have considered whether or not they need to leave uk due to leave the uk due to anti—semitism. whilst agree anti—semitism. so whilst i agree with saying, life with what you're saying, if life was normal , life with what you're saying, if life was normal, life is not currently normal in a lot of ways. you've got these big pro—palestine marches happening every single weekend . you've got every single weekend. you've got people within those marches that are very anti—semitic. you've got people wandering the streets. absolutely with hamas style headbands on. you've got nazi symbols on placards. so

these are not normal times. so in those in these times, i find it quite staggering that you would think that a lot of british jews wouldn't be terrified. no, i'm not saying that. >> i'm saying it is still a fantastic place to not be from the majority culture, and i think we forget that. >> but that's consolation, is >> but that's no consolation, is it? you've got people on the it? if you've got people on the streets chanting for your for your much. if your death, pretty much. if you're let's let's you're jewish. so let's let's let's few points let's look at a few points you've made in terms of the campaign against anti—semitism. you've made in terms of the canum,|n against anti—semitism. you've made in terms of the canum, i against anti—semitism. you've made in terms of the canum, i think|st anti—semitism. you've made in terms of the canum, i think thisnti—semitism. you've made in terms of the canum, i think this is—semitism. you've made in terms of the canum, i think this is my mitism. >> um, i think this is my personal view . israel has personal view. israel has a position in an understandable position in an understandable position where they really want as many european jews to go back to israel as possible for two reasons. firstly they it is their country, it's their homeland. secondly because of demographic concerns that there aren't simply enough israelis to maintain going maintain this country going forward has been forward. and that has been a strategic , long term imperative strategic, long term imperative for israel that we would we'd like european jewry to come back to israel to return to israel, to israel to return to israel, to do aliyah . that's one part. to do aliyah. that's one part. and i think to some extent there

is an intentional desire and motivation to instil fear in european jews. as a result now are european jews at the same? >> on whose part? >> on whose part? >> i think certain interest groups. i think certain ultra nationalist interest groups in israel want to encourage as many europeans , jews to go to israel europeans, jews to go to israel as possible. that's my i mean, i've read about that. that's what i've learned. at the same time, you have massive time, you clearly have a massive increase anti—semitism increase in anti—semitism across europe. targeting europe. you have the targeting of people just of jewish people, not just in europe, also north europe, but also in north america, too. and i think actually the solution is i don't know want to talk about know if you want to talk about this because there this this because there was this awful story east london where awful story in east london where they putting out the they won't be putting out the menorah is menorah for christmas, which is just just appalling. just which is just appalling. >> well, it is atrocious. and whoever's taking this decision should should it and should should retake it and reverse should should retake it and rev> it's disgusting. >> well, giving in to it's >> well, it's giving in to it's giving in essentially to menace . giving in essentially to menace. >> can i just i'll just say the story is for people who aren't aware got menorah aware you've got this menorah every havering east london. >> it goes out during the sort of the festive period. i say

that because, course, it's that because, of course, it's not christmas, it's hanukkah. it goes out the festive period goes out over the festive period and doing it this and they aren't doing it this year because there are worries that it will damaged, that it will be damaged, destroyed. god knows what. now they're saying they don't want to inflame community tensions as well. think that's absolutely well. i think that's absolutely appalling because, look, when little children wants to little black children wants to go a all white schools in go to a all white schools in alabama 1950s, that alabama in the 1950s, that inflamed community tensions, the point is those communities were wrong . so i think there's a two wrong. so i think there's a two fold approach here for me , fold approach here for me, michel, on the one hand, british jews should be absolutely proud of what and who they are. they should absolutely not be intimidated by what's going on. there absolutely is a rise in anti—semitism. of course , what's anti—semitism. of course, what's going on in havering is appalling. we need political leadership which doesn't cower to these of impulses. but to these kinds of impulses. but i do really want to remind our viewers that britain remains a tolerant, generally high trust, generous and just country. and i really do get worried when

people keep on doing us down like this. >> but i'm trying to unpick what you're saying because because there a lot of jewish people there are a lot of jewish people i well, because a lot of i know as well, because a lot of people get in touch with this program. so i do speak to people every about this and lot every day about this and a lot of people are frightened. of jewish people are frightened. a know, see there a lot of you know, you see there was school the other day that was at school the other day that jewish school where it's got all this red paint it and this red paint chucked on it and all rest of it and people all the rest of it and people are afraid people will see are afraid and people will see this from the river to the this chant from the river to the sea. palestine will free. sea. palestine will be free. people interpret chant people will interpret that chant as meaning a one state solution, which basically means the eradication of jewish people in and those we're and around those areas. we're talking separate talking about two separate things here, though, we? things here, though, aren't we? >> about >> we're talking about anti—semitism. are not anti—semitism. no, we are not really, in this atmosphere. >> in atmosphere, >> it's in this atmosphere, particularly atmosphere of . particularly the atmosphere of. the demonstrations which have been repeated. very unusual . the demonstrations which have been repeated. very unusual. me. i can't think of any other occasion where a demonstration for a cause has been repeated. we've only on the streets of the capital over and over again i can student demonstration. >> i participated in them ten

years ago. but yes, i think it's unusual. >> not really parallels. and i think this this has think that this this has undoubtedly particular undoubtedly created particular worry and the sort of the sort of incidents which michel described a of a school being described of a of a school being splashed with with paint and abuse of the authorities really do need, it seems to me, to act very strongly against this kind of thing to detect and charge and prosecute. >> i completely agree the culprits in a way i don't see this happening and i think there does need to much more sign does need to be much more sign from the authorities and the criminal justice system that there are limits, which is it simply will not will not go beyond. >> and things which it simply will not tolerate . i haven't will not tolerate. i haven't seen enough of that. i'm not in favour of stopping people from saying things, but my goodness, i'm against people being allowed to get away with throwing paint at jewish schools and intimidating human beings and particularly children in that way that you have to stand up against without reservation. and i don't think there's been quite enough of that myself, which is

why i'm worried about this this this decision to take down or not put up the menorah for hanukkah . it just seems to me to hanukkah. it just seems to me to be a retreat out of ultimately of authority and authority shouldn't retreat when it sees these things. it should advance it. >> yeah. and i've got to say, i don't think the two things are separate to your point, your response to me, i think they're very much linked. and i do think that it's great if a jewish person safe . absolutely person feels safe. absolutely wonderful. i've got nothing against that. but i'm not talking about that. i'm talking about collection of jewish about the collection of jewish people that absolutely don't feel do feel that feel safe and that do feel that people the streets people wandering the streets chanting would interpret chanting. they would interpret it as a one state solution. they would interpret meaning basically the basically get rid of all the jews. is intimidating or jews. that is intimidating or frightening a lot of people. >> i think, look, these are these are separate. these are separate things. that's the point. >> so if you want to you think if you want to talk about the legitimacy and trade legitimacy of that and the trade offs they two offs between, how are they two separate things. >> about whether >> we're talking about whether or feel safe. that's or not people feel safe. that's not illegal. >> that's not illegal.

>> that's not illegal. >> don't say it was illegal. >> don't say it was illegal. >> throwing red paint at >> but throwing red paint at a synagogue making menaces or synagogue or making menaces or supporting a proscribed terrorist organisation, that is illegal. i'm illegal. that is stuff that i'm not it's illegal people, not saying it's illegal people, but separate things. but these are separate things. >> don't just get >> you don't just get intimidated frightened intimidated and feel frightened based on what's illegal and what's not. >> the point is the state >> but the point is the state can be doing things and it's not doing them as just said, doing them as peter just said, about so i think don't about this. so i think why don't we start there? and rather than have conversation have an abstract conversation about a chant relating to foreign decisions foreign policy decisions about a country thousands of miles away, i this fascinating that you i find this fascinating that you think abstract. think it's a random abstract. >> there's no >> there's no there's no connection people in connection between people in their tens of thousands making connection between people in their tethatf thousands making connection between people in their tethat relate.ands making connection between people in their tethat relate. manynaking connection between people in their tethat relate. many would chants that relate. many would an though, an abstract debate, though, because of because it's about freedom of expression versus incite. >> about. that's >> it is about. that's absolutely abstract debate. absolutely an abstract debate. whereas red whereas somebody throwing red paint is not paint on a synagogue is not abstract. broken the law. >> yeah. you know, i don't want to go round in circles, but i just feel and i know i don't feel it. i know because i hear people getting in people every day getting in contact there's a lot contact with me. there's a lot of feel frightened and of people feel frightened and they feel when they're they feel afraid when they're seeing chants. and you seeing those chants. and you might know a might not. and you might know a lot that don't not

lot of people that don't not don't feel afraid. and that's wonderful. but a of people wonderful. but a lot of people do. because it's not do. and just because it's not illegal and just it's illegal and just because it's within the confines of free speech mean that that speech doesn't mean that that makes feel less into makes people feel any less into amidated unsafe or amidated or any less unsafe or anything that anyway, i'll anything like that anyway, i'll throw it open you guys. i'm throw it open to you guys. i'm sure that. sure you have opinions on that. vaiews@gbnews.com. got vaiews@gbnews.com. i've got a lot that i want to rattle lot more that i want to rattle through with you. i might. i might revisit this. we'll see before the program. before the end of the program. but want to you our but i want to ask you our prisons a little bit to kushti in country little bit too in this country a little bit too soft also , i want to talk to soft and also, i want to talk to you british asian bbc you about the british asian bbc presenter his presenter who says that his mental health suffering mental health is suffering because too many white because there are too many white people, where he people, basically where he works. thoughts? you works. your thoughts? are you into .

radio. hi there, michelle dewberry. >> aaron bastani , peter hitchens >> aaron bastani, peter hitchens right through till 7:00 with you. there's certain things in

life that i wish that i hadn't seen nigel farage as backside in the jungle is one of them. another one, ladies and gents, is peter hitchens on a toilet in a prison cell. >> well, wait a minute. >> well, wait a minute. >> you only saw my upper body . >> you only saw my upper body. >> you only saw my upper body. >> well, that was enough. >> well, that was enough. >> there was movement. i know. >> there was movement. i know. >> facial expression. i since we're since we're entering into this discussion, there was actually movement all. actually no movement at all. >> no more constipating >> there is no more constipating experience in life than sharing a small room with another bloke. and having to do everything in public. i promise you. >> well, anyway, the reason i'm mentioning this, i don't i don't want to. >> hitchens was on a tv >> hitchens go on was on a tv show called up or show called banged up or whatever was. whatever it was. >> was about the state of >> it was all about the state of prisons. i found it interesting today, the lady that's been convicted killing multiple convicted of killing multiple babies, lucy letby, you'll be familiar that that familiar with that with that story. to rehash story. i don't need to rehash it. apparently has been it. she apparently has been moved to another prison. and i've got to say, i was taking a look the prison. i can show look at the prison. i can show you. actually, i'll show you the front their website. it front page of their website. it caught so it did. caught my eye today. so it did. this hmp bronzefield. look at this is hmp bronzefield. look at

that. hand side. that. the top right hand side. it our aim is to change it says our aim is to change lives for better . shouldn't lives for the better. shouldn't the of prison be to punish the aim of prison be to punish people? not very much but people? not very much so, but not insult them or humiliate not to insult them or humiliate them or destroy their souls. >> i prisons should be austere . >> i prisons should be austere. they shouldn't be certainly shouldn't be places of luxury, but they certainly shouldn't be places where we deliberately set out to make people miss horrible and humiliated. there would be no point in that. their place is, in my view, which is no longer the view of the government. by the way. >> well, that's peter in prison. >> well, that's peter in prison. >> cases of places where >> in cases of places where punishment should take place, due punishment responsible due punishment of responsible persons have committed persons who have have committed crimes against a known law. >> but it's not it's one thing to say you're going to punish someone. it's another thing to say you're going to insult and humiliate and i don't humiliate them. and i don't believe in doing that. and nobody sight and nobody who's been in sight and i haven't been inside haven't just been inside shrewsbury prison for four days in the in the bagged up programme. i've visited many prisons well, several prisons in, in this country. in other

parts of the world. no nobody would wish to inside a prison would wish to be inside a prison for a minute longer than they had to be with an ensuite shower or not. and i would not make out that these places are places where anybody could be, even for a moment, be happy or contented or particularly comfortable. and that's not what they're like . that's not what they're like. and don't get that into your head.the and don't get that into your head. the prisoners holiday camp argument is frankly not the point. the point is, prisons is who runs prisons and what they're for. and at the moment they're for. and at the moment they're largely run by the inmates and they don't have punishment in them. >> different experience to >> very different experience to my years. i used to my teenage years. i used to visit boyfriend visit my then boyfriend frequently in prison, and there was many that i knew back was many people that i knew back in those days that were in and out prison, like yo—yo. out of prison, like a yo—yo. they not have any they seemed to not have any issues more minutes issues spending more minutes than they needed to back inside anyway. than they needed to back inside anyi'ay. to than they needed to back inside any i 'ay. to say, than they needed to back inside anyi'ay. to say, actually, that >> i have to say, actually, that was very good tv with peter. and he has this interaction with this young man. i almost see this young man. and i almost see you being a this is not you as being like a this is not being almost being patronising almost as a father figure i think he

father figure to him. i think he clearly is in search of a mentor. and there was just a glimpse him having that and glimpse of him having that and he responded well. well, so he responded so well. well, so you maybe you should be you know, maybe you should be doing more. >> got on surprisingly >> tom and i got on surprisingly well, to read to well, and he asked me to read to him, was extraordinary. we him, which was extraordinary. we read to each other and we spent a hours because you were a long hours because you were banged up together with nothing else spent long hours else to do. we spent long hours telling personal telling each other our personal stories, was fascinating. stories, and it was fascinating. i certainly for me, hope i think certainly for me, i hope for a very interesting for him. i a very interesting experience. tom go experience. i hope tom will go will go far. he's a bright. >> you stay in touch with him? >> not at the moment, no. he's he's out in the far east at the moment. but i expect i will be back in touch with him at some point. yes. >> yeah. see, i share kind >> yeah. see, i share the kind of sentiment about i mean, i was looking website of this looking at the website of this prison. say, was prison. i've got to say, i was reading it. i thought, it sounds all right. actually, the prison that she on sweets, that she was in on sweets, you've got they've got a creche in ofsted rated in there. an ofsted rated outstanding creche. got a lovely play outstanding creche. got a lovely play would play area as well. people would argue, well, children shouldn't be completely be in prisons. i completely agree. answer for that agree. but the answer for that

then that mothers then is that the mothers shouldn't committing shouldn't really be committing crimes then, should they? anyway, make to anyway, what do you make to prisons? you think that whole prisons? do you think that whole nofion prisons? do you think that whole notion of aim is to kind of notion of our aim is to kind of make people and make people better people and all it? is that the all the rest of it? is that the primary responsibility of a prison in your in your view? vaiews@gbnews.com. when i come back after the break, i'll bring some of your thoughts into the show. but also i'm asking you there's asian bbc there's a british asian bbc presenter who that actually presenter who says that actually the he works with the fact that he works with majority is majority white people is affecting his mental health. what do you make to that? see you in two. you know , i've been you in two. you know, i've been a p0p you in two. you know, i've been a pop star. >> i've been a tv presenter. i've danced on strictly. i've faced some of my biggest fears on i'm a celebrity. get me out of here. and now, ladies and gentlemen, i'm going to face my biggest of all by biggest challenge of all by joining gb news with ellie costello and peter andre for the brightest. >> start your weekend with all the news. the biggest story, plus some special guests . plus some special guests. >> join me, peter, andre and me , >> join me, peter, andre and me, ellie costello for saturday morning live from

ten >> hello there. i'm michelle dewberry and i'm with you till 7:00. aaron bastani and peter hitchens remain alongside me. now, a story that caught my eye, the bbc radio five live presenter neil arthur nick gibb nick hewer. i think that's how i pronounce it. apologies if i've done that wrong. i says that an overwhelmingly white working environment is affecting his mental health. now i want to just cut straight to the chase on this one because the thing that jumps out at this for me is if anyone said this in a different way, so say like, for example, i worked in an environment that was predominantly , i don't know, predominantly, i don't know, black people. if i said , oh, i black people. if i said, oh, i come to work every day and it's majority black people. i mean , majority black people. i mean, all hell would break loose, quite frankly, and understandably so. but this has not had any kind of pushback

whatsoever. in fact , it's whatsoever. in fact, it's created a conversation about the need to be more diverse . it's need to be more diverse. it's ridiculous what he said, frankly. >> i mean, i do actually wonder if he believes what he said. you know, sometimes people say things to a small room of people. they haven't actually thought they're thought about what they're saying . you a brief saying. so, you know, a brief synthesis. he's worked in london for about 20 years. he now lives in salford because, of course, bbc have outsourced many of their jobs there. and bbc have outsourced many of theirjobs there. and he says when he goes into work, like you say, he has so many white colleagues there, so few colleagues there, he sees so few brown people, brown and black people, presumably in presumably it's different in london. giving him mental presumably it's different in londorissues.ving him mental presumably it's different in londorissues. lookhim mental presumably it's different in londorissues. look this mental presumably it's different in londorissues. look this country health issues. look this country is 80% white. you know, if you have a problem walking into a room full of white people, you're going you're going to you're going you're going to you're going you're going to you're going to be in trouble. he does say something else, however, interesting, however, which is interesting, which said he's been which is that he said he's been exposed to the p word more frequently in salford in frequently in salford than in london. wonder, know, london. and i wonder, you know, has a negative experience has he had a negative experience like that yet? and shaped like that yet? and it's shaped these views i think are these views which i think are obviously wrong and they're also

deeply to his deeply insulting to his colleagues. i mean, imagine if you're one of his colleagues you say morning am i one of the say morning and am i one of the bad white he's referring to? >> yeah, because so he was saying this basically at an event and he said that it was really affecting me . really affecting me. >> this is a direct quote. it's really affecting me that i walk in i see is white in and all i see is white people, all his colleagues response he's told them response when he's told them this reply defensive. lee this was to reply defensive. lee saying were not being saying that they were not being racist. he says that racist. and he says that that was basically missing the point. what do you make some of this, peter well, to i was disturbed by the mention of the p word being used and i thought maybe there only half the story there was only half the story being told and that his complaint might actually complaint might be actually rather the one rather different from the one that been more that that he's been more publicised as making if people are doing that if he is encountering more of that, then thatis encountering more of that, then that is obviously a serious m atter. >> matter. >> the other thing we do it is it is of course , the case that it is of course, the case that there is a majority culture in

this country and there are minority cultures and being a member of the majority culture, itend member of the majority culture, i tend to be pretty complacent about things like this. so i'll try not to be the other thing in it , leaving try not to be the other thing in it, leaving aside try not to be the other thing in it , leaving aside the try not to be the other thing in it, leaving aside the p try not to be the other thing in it , leaving aside the p word it, leaving aside the p word issue, which is obviously very serious. that worries me serious. if so, that worries me aboutis serious. if so, that worries me about is this use and this isn't directed just at this person or even particularly at him at all. but in general, the use of the phrase mental health to describe to describe somebody who's distressed, to say it's affecting my mental health. now you can say you're unhappy, you can you can say you're unhappy, you can say you can say you're unhappy, you can say you're distressed, you can say you're distressed, you can say you're distressed, you can say that you're angry, you can say that you're angry, you can you can say all kinds of things about your state, but to turn into an issue of turn everything into an issue of health mental health seems health and mental health seems to dangerous. and there health and mental health seems to a dangerous. and there health and mental health seems to a huge dangerous. and there health and mental health seems to a huge tendency ous. and there health and mental health seems to a huge tendency ins. and there health and mental health seems to a huge tendency in this d there is a huge tendency in this country in many, many areas of life to medicalize unhappiness and to medicalize distress , and to medicalize distress, which i don't think is good for any of the people involved. and i think we should be much more sceptical it than we are sceptical of it than we are quite large numbers people, quite large numbers of people, for my view, are for instance, in my view, are taking medications taking so—called medications either for things such as

alleged adhd or alleged depression , which are very depression, which are very powerful drugs . and there is powerful drugs. and there is actually no objective diet ipsis of the things for which these things are being prescribed. and it's a major problem and it needs to be discussed. and the use of the word mental to health describe distress seems to me to be towards this happening be a step towards this happening more, not less. >> yeah . and i mean, it's the >> yeah. and i mean, it's the pushback to this is we're sitting here pretty much as three white people saying that i'm mixed heritage. >> there you go, michel. we've got permission talk it. got permission to talk about it. there you go. >> but then have. yeah. >> but then you have. yeah. >> but then you have. yeah. >> no, no. >> no, no. >> but then maybe because then the flip side this would be the flip side to this would be then sitting and we then we're sitting here and we experience experience . experience that experience. >> are we to sit there >> so who are we to sit there and say, you know, trivialise that sentiment and that feeling that's true. >> but also there were other statements. that's true. and look, is sometimes look, i think it is sometimes it's because say it's unfair because you say something i say, something to a room, like i say, you don't mean it or it's misinterpreted it's fair. misinterpreted or it's not fair. but, these are the but, you know, these are the kinds the kinds of

kinds of the kinds of conversations that really get people going. what i would say is i people going. what i would say isi need people going. what i would say is i need to look is i don't need somebody to look like think they're doing like me to think they're doing a great job. >> must say, neither do i. >> i must say, neither do i. yeah if everyone looked, everyone looked like all of us. i mean, what would you make to that? >> but look, i think there's also a question of make it a very question moving away very quick question moving away from used to, from something he was used to, to he wasn't used to to something he wasn't used to by moving from one part of the country to another. >> things in >> and things do differ in different the country. different parts of the country. >> there you go. >> well, there you go. >> well, there you go. >> what do you make to it all anyway? that's all we've >> what do you make to it all any time that's all we've >> what do you make to it all any time for. that's all we've >> what do you make to it all any time for. time:'s all we've >> what do you make to it all any time for. time flies. we've >> what do you make to it all any time for. time flies when; got time for. time flies when you're having fun. aaron, thank you're having fun. aaron, thank you your company. peter, you for your company. peter, thank yours. and thank you for yours. and likewise, thank you. at home. have night and i will see have a good night and i will see you night. night. you tomorrow night. night. >> outlook with solar >> a brighter outlook with solar sponsors on . gb news. sponsors of weather on. gb news. >> good evening. welcome to your latest gb news weather update from the met office. friday is going to be another dry day for many of us, but it will be feeling very cold once again with some freezing with potentially some freezing fog to start and some snow

showers . we've seen snow as showers. we've seen snow as a result this frontal system result of this frontal system bumping the cold air across bumping into the cold air across parts of southwest . that parts of the southwest. that will clear away throughout the course the night, but it will course of the night, but it will leave with it some a risk of ice on the roads across parts of devon and cornwall. there's also a risk of some ice across the north—east england, well north—east of england, as well as eastern areas of as many eastern areas of scotland result of snow scotland as a result of the snow showers. you also see some showers. you could also see some icy stretches across parts of northern ireland. so it will be another very cold tomorrow another very cold start tomorrow morning. low as morning. could be as low as minus minus eight. once minus seven, minus eight. once again. there also be some again. there will also be some freezing patches many freezing fog patches across many central and eastern areas. these could be quite slow to clear . could be quite slow to clear. there'll also be some showers starting to come in across parts of suffolk. we could see some sleepiness within this as well . sleepiness within this as well. but for many of us, it will be a dry day with some winter sunshine . but temperatures still sunshine. but temperatures still really struggling to or three degrees at best in many places. and then saturday is going to start on a very cold note. we could be down as minus could be down as low as minus double digits , some crisp

double digits, some crisp sunshine to be had, mostly across areas. this across northeastern areas. this time with showers moving in from the west. these showers could fall as snow over the high ground of wales and potentially across areas as well. across central areas as well. but things turn somewhat less cold early next week . cold early next week. >> looks like things are heating up. boxed boilers as sponsors of weather on .

gb news. >> good evening and welcome to farage with me camilla tominey. my farage with me camilla tominey. my final night presenting the show. i've thoroughly enjoyed it.thank show. i've thoroughly enjoyed it. thank for your company it. thank you for your company again indeed all again tonight and indeed all week. are we going be week. what are we going to be covering? well, of course, matt hancocks at the covid hancocks appearance at the covid inquiry going be a topic inquiry is going to be a topic for discussion. the health

secretary of secretary blaming some of the government's mistakes on the toxic inside number toxic atmosphere inside number 10. also going to be 10. we're also going to be talking about cop28, the climate summit in dubai, of all places , summit in dubai, of all places, where king charles iii, has just arrived. and we're going to be discussing what on earth has happened to 17,000 missing asylum seekers . all that after asylum seekers. all that after the news with aaron armstrong . the news with aaron armstrong. >> very good evening to you. it's aaron armstrong here in the newsroom. two more hostages have been released from gaza on the seventh day of the temporary ceasefire between hamas and israel . earlier, the women, a 21 israel. earlier, the women, a 21 year old french dual national and a 40 year old israeli , and a 40 year old israeli, arrived at a hospital back in israel. we're also expecting more captives held by hamas to be released later in exchange for 30 palestinian prisoners . for 30 palestinian prisoners. the talks to extend the truce are continuing in qatar. meanwhile, benjamin netanyahu, the israeli prime minister has

once again vowed to eradicate