ispeak i speak shortly to an health? i speak shortly to an ex—bbc employee who hits back at claims at the beeb. it's too white and i speak to the king of the travellers, paddy doherty . the travellers, paddy doherty. >> it's my party, says my son. do you want councils to get tough on travellers setting up camp on your land? >> and widdicombe is on to discuss this shocking incident . discuss this shocking incident. >> oh no. put him down now . >> oh no. put him down now. >> oh no. put him down now. >> yeah. i'll show you exactly what happened. very, very shortly. but frankly, a police officer gets away with something that many people would find absolutely disgusting . but on my absolutely disgusting. but on my panel tonight , i've got the panel tonight, i've got the telegraph's madeline grant. i've got lord shaun bailey and the wonderful amy nicholl . turner, wonderful amy nicholl. turner, this is patrick christys. tonight and we're live . tonight and we're live. email me should slack civil

servants be sacked? gb views are gbnews.com we're all paying for them. and i'll tell you exactly how much we're paying for some of them well at gb news on of them as well at gb news on twitter, it's go after the twitter, it's all go after the headunes. headlines. >> a very good evening to you, aaron armstrong here in the gb newsroom. two hostages have been released from gaza following a last minute deal between israel and hamas to extend their temporary ceasefire . 21 year old temporary ceasefire. 21 year old mia scam , who appeared in the mia scam, who appeared in the first hostage video released by hamas , was reunited with her hamas, was reunited with her family earlier. and the 40 year old amateur sana also arrived safely at hospital in israel . safely at hospital in israel. now a further eight israeli hostages are expected to be released at some point tonight in exchange for 30 palestinian prisoners . and we are watching prisoners. and we are watching and waiting for more on that. we'll bring it to you as soon as that happens here on gb news. meanwhile, america's top diplomats says israel must protect civilian lives in gaza before it continues its military

operations . is speaking in tel operations. is speaking in tel aviv. the us secretary of state, antony blinken, said the immediate priority is to extend the temporary ceasefire and while he said the us supports israel's aim to eliminate hamas, the loss of life in northern gaza cannot be repeated in the south. >> israel has the right to do everything it can to ensure that the slaughter hamas carried out on october 7th can never be repeated and hamas cannot remain in control of gaza. >> it cannot retain the capacity to repeat that carnage. but as i've also said since i first came here after october seventh, the way israel defends itself matters before israel resumes major military operations. it must put in place humanitarian, civilian protection plans that minimise further casualties of innocent palestinians. here in the uk. >> matt hancock says a culture of fear inside downing street, created by boris johnson's chief adviser , has undermined the adviser, has undermined the

government's response , government's pandemic response, as the former health secretary described by dominic cummings as a actor at the covid a malign actor at the covid inquiry said the country inquiry and said the country should have gone into lockdown sooner the doctrine sooner if we'd had the doctrine that i propose, which is as soon as, know you've got a as, you know you've got a lockdown, you lock down as soon as possible, and then we would have got lockdown done over have got the lockdown done over that in on 2nd of that weekend in on the 2nd of march, three weeks earlier than before, doubling before, where there's a doubling rate point, estimated rate at this point, estimated every 3 to 4 days. >> we would have been six doubungs >> we would have been six doublings ahead of where we were, means that fewer were, which means that fewer than a 10th of the number of people would have died in the first wave. tributes have been paid from both sides of the political divide to the labour. >> former labour chancellor alistair darling, died alistair darling, who has died at 70. lord darling at the age of 70. lord darling served as a cabinet minister for 13 years under tony blair and gordon brown, who praised his wisdom, calmness and his humour. the prime minister said he was a dedicated public servant who served the country through challenging times and labour leader sir keir starmer described his loss to those who

knew him as immeasurable . knew him as immeasurable. >> alastair's death has caused a shock and a profound sadness across not just the whole labour movement, but across everybody who loved him and respected him. and that's basically everybody who knew him. >> he was the dedicated public servant. he was kind. i was privileged to know him as a friend and to have his advice and our hearts go out to maggie , and our hearts go out to maggie, his wife and their children on this very, very sad day . this very, very sad day. >> and the prime minister has switched on the lights of the downing street christmas tree . downing street christmas tree. 3 to 1 who rishi sunak joked it was nice to click a button and make everything brighter. christmas carols were played. over 100 guests were in attendance at the festive market in downing street earlier . well, in downing street earlier. well, thatis in downing street earlier. well, that is it for the moment. we're on tv online dab and tune in

radio two. but now it is over to . patrick the home office's answer to laurel and hardy need to pack their bags, which will be stuffed full of taxpayers cash and do what i've been incredibly harsh on rishi sunak. >> i've been incredibly harsh on the government when it comes to immigration. but yesterday we saw reality of the type of saw the reality of the type of person tasked implementing person tasked with implementing government the government policy and the will of people , and they are of the people, and they are a complete shambles. sir matthew ryecroft simon ridley they're called . and it's not just that called. and it's not just that they couldn't run a bath, it's that they clearly don't even care about running a bath and actually they don't know where the bath is. yes today they turned up to a home office scrutiny hearing they gave scrutiny hearing and they gave worse someone at a worse answers than someone at a job desperately job centre who's desperately trying to remain on an employment benefit. you how employment benefit. you know how people been worried people have been worried about asylum the fact that asylum seekers and the fact that maybe they've just leg it and disappear? well we have no record of that 307% increase.

>> the 17,316 claims withdrawn in the last year. you haven't a clue where those people now are. >> so. so these are people who have who have made a claim, who we have sought to invite to interviews or we have sent out questionnaires who have not responded. and the point at which they they they are not engaging with the system that leads to a decision. we have withdrawn their claim. so we don't kick them off the list. >> but they haven't gone home. >> but they haven't gone home. >> they haven't gone home. i don't know. we don't know. >> so you have no idea where those 16 or 17,316 people are ? i those 16 or 17,316 people are? i don't think we know where all those people are. >> no. >> no. >> you have no idea. thank you very much, chair. >> that's a chap called simon ridley there. a quick google search of his name reveals he hosted a master class for young people learn about people looking to learn about the service. presumably the civil service. presumably that about that master class lasted about 30s. couldn't answer any 30s. he couldn't answer any questions he lost trying questions and he got lost trying to there. you how the to get there. you know how the pubuc

to get there. you know how the public really care about illegal migrants being deported? it's quite big i isn't quite a big deal, i think isn't it? well how many people travelling on small boats has been refused asylum , have been been refused asylum, have been sent to a third country or back to their own country of the past three years . three years. >> i don't think we have i don't think we'll write to the committee with those numbers. mr >> anderson that's quite that's staggering. >> that's actually a very . >> that's actually a very. >> that's actually a very. >> so okay, then let's do for the last year. >> i don't have a for number non—albanian non nos. >> perhaps they might be able to help you. >> let's do last week then. >> let's do last week then. >> do we have any figures about anything sir. >> sir matthew ryecroft there a man who, according to the government's website, is paid around £103,000 a year. he has received bonuses and was knighted despite overseeing record levels of net migration, presumably that was for services to open borders . the arrogance to open borders. the arrogance and obnoxious entitlement on

display there . to think that you display there. to think that you can turn up and perform like that well in 2022 to 23, figures show that 20 leading civil servants who run the uk government departments had an average pension pot of £1.1 million combined. and these pension pots were worth 20, just under £21 million. i'll round it up slightly. of these ten had pension pots worth more than the lifetime allowance currently set at just over £1 million, according to the taxpayers alliance. sir philip barton permanent under—secretary at the foreign commonwealth and development office, had the largest pension pot worth more than £2 million last year during the withdrawal from afghanistan. sir philip reportedly stayed on houday sir philip reportedly stayed on holiday until 11 days after the taliban retook kabul. how on earth is the government supposed to do anything with these clowns tasked with enforcing their policies? i mean, they just don't look like they care. i'm a taxpayer and i want my money back. politicians get voted in

and out . they get all the stick. and out. they get all the stick. but hang on a minute. this lot are taking our money, wheelbarrows of the stuff and wheelbarrows of the stuff and wheelbarrows of the stuff and wheelbarrows of the stuff . and wheelbarrows of the stuff. and they are just turning up to a scrutiny meeting with no answers . as if you performed like that where you were, you'd get sacked, wouldn't you? there's history here, though, isn't there? dominic raab was ousted over bullying which over bullying claims, which apparently included him getting apparently included him getting a little miffed because one a little bit miffed because one civil servant nearly handed gibraltar back to the spanish without a single being without a single shot being fired. there is an aggressive work from home culture, apparently nearly 2/5 of civil servants consider quitting servants would consider quitting if they're made to do three days a the office. there was a week in the office. there was a week in the office. there was a lot of controversy about partygate investigator sue gray, who's son has just been selected to run as the labour mp for beckenham and penge . she's now beckenham and penge. she's now sir keir starmer chief of staff. now of course there was never found to be any issue there in terms of her being compromised in any there is clearly in any way. there is clearly a layer of apathy at science and

incompetence behind a layer of weak government. if sunak had any strength, he'd get rid of laurel and hardy from the home office replace them with office and replace them with people who at least look like they care. well, let's get to they care. well, let's get to the of my now. the thoughts of my panel now. daily columnist daily telegraph columnist madeline grant. i've got conservative bailey, conservative peer lord bailey, and i've got author and broadcaster, wonderful amy broadcaster, the wonderful amy nicole . madeline, nicole turner. madeline, i'll start you . do they need to start with you. do they need to be sacked ? be sacked? >> well, mean , i think that >> well, i mean, i think that was absolutely shameless as a display. >> i think it shows a level of contempt for the general public. i think if this were a business, heads would would roll to according on this basis . i don't according on this basis. i don't know exactly. i mean , it's not know exactly. i mean, it's not it's not done for the prime minister to interfere in the inner workings of the civil service. but this is the kind of outing that really gives you an insight into the pushback that ministers , government ministers ministers, government ministers are experiencing when they try to actually implement the kind of policies that people in britain want to see enacted. and the grave concern that many people feel about migration and channel migrants.

>> thought that actually >> i thought that actually pulled the curtain on the pulled back the curtain on the reality of it. it's all very well and good, me sitting here reality of it. it's all very wellgivingood, me sitting here reality of it. it's all very wellgivingood, rsunak ng here reality of it. it's all very wellgivingood, rsunak bothzre and giving rishi sunak both barrels and all of this stuff. but the reality if that's if but the reality is, if that's if that's he's against, if that's what he's up against, if those the people who are those are the people who are tasked implementing tasked with implementing not just also just government policy, but also the people, we've the will of the people, we've got no chance, have we? look, if you look those two men, it's you look at those two men, it's one performance. one poor performance. >> their careers, they >> and in their careers, they may have 100 good ones, but it points to something important. >> politicians that we give >> it's politicians that we give all ire the civil all the ire to and the civil service skate. >> there's vast parts of >> by now, there's vast parts of civil service that work brilliantly, but there's clearly some problems but looks some problems here. but it looks to civil service are to me that the civil service are beyond watching beyond reproach. who is watching the so if you're a the watchmen? so if you're a civil very civil civil servant, very senior civil servant, and you servant, you have time and you just i'll wait until just think, i'll wait until somebody removes this politician who i don't like doesn't do. who i don't like or doesn't do. >> want to do the real civil servant. >> that's not the case. and why i think that's important to acknowledge, look acknowledge, because if you look at the at other states across the world, example, world, america, for example, those bring in their those politicians bring in their civil servants and they leave with civil servants. and with those civil servants. and what is a greater

what that means is a greater level accountability, because what that means is a greater level clear,ntability, because what that means is a greater level clear, unless y, because what that means is a greater level clear, unless the acause what that means is a greater level clear, unless the likes; let's be clear, unless the likes of you on about this, this of you keep on about this, this story will just disappear into the aether. find it absolutely the aether. i find it absolutely staggering. honestly, it's i mean, lot this, but mean, there's a lot to this, but the idea you would the idea that you would turn up to meeting that as to a meeting like that as unprepared, that for me shows a level disdain for what is one level of disdain for what is one of, if not the major issue of the day for a lot of people out there and a lot people there and a lot of people watching listening this, watching and listening to this, amy, what you make of that amy, what did you make of that then? do you think that they should as a result of this? should go as a result of this? >> you've picked the >> i think you've picked the wrong villain here. i've wrong villain here. and i've seen more. minister is seen plenty more. minister is turning to committee turning up to committee meetings. >> name one. suella. when she was asked to simply cost the rwanda deal and she simply couldn't. she couldn't do it. she couldn't prevent present the figures . figures. >> i think it's incredibly important to note that you we always cherry pick out the civil servants who earn these great big pensions. you're average civil servant is just about scraping it's really unfair scraping by. it's really unfair to characterise them as these moneyed. >> we always like to think of them at home, working from home

on their pelotons sort of on their pelotons that sort of image. a lot of them are working. >> they're working incredibly hard to take policies that can't be implemented. >> a completely impractical and they see that. and they're they can see that. and they're just they're just say excuse for not knowing this. >> is this is the >> you see, this is this is the thing. right? you know, to not be able to answer basic questions me shows you questions for me just shows you my view. you don't care. the bottom line is this. so we've talked about ministers failing, but you but if you're a punter and you look at the people behind the ministers, it starts to answer some questions and some questions for you. and let's be clear, vast parts of the service are just the civil service are just normal their normal working people, but their pensions quite far pensions are still quite far ahead normal, ahead of normal, normal, ordinary people. civil ordinary people. the civil service should be rewarded properly, they also properly, but they should also work aggressive work properly. the aggressive work properly. the aggressive work home culture is work from home culture is beginning itself in a beginning to show itself in a lack of. >> but it's just frustrating when you blame terrible unemployed, impossible, impractical policy on impractical government policy on civil servants. >> impractical to know >> it's not impractical to know how people have been. how many people have been. >> i think that the idea that you would 70,000 you would have 70,000 asylum seekers for whatever reason, seekers who for whatever reason, their claims don't progress any

further, they don't have any claim to be the country any claim to be in the country any longer, just literally longer, and they just literally disappear and no one knows where they are. no one is keeping tabs on them and then they turn up to a unable to answer a committee unable to answer the most questions about their most basic questions about their own brief. imagine if you were the, know, cfo of a the, you know, the cfo of a company and you went to like an agm you couldn't tell the agm and you couldn't tell the shareholders what shareholders like what your annual revenue was. i mean, it's that equivalent of something so basic. more basic. is there something more sinister basic. is there something more siniand, you know, we're going to >> and, you know, we're going to get sides of but is get both sides of this, but is this lot of people in the this a lot of people in the civil service are have got civil service who are have got an anti—tory bias or are they active working towards it? active not working towards it? maybe look, rishi's maybe they think, look, rishi's only it's been a circus and only got it's been a circus and rishi got year and rishi has only got a year and a bit left . i can't be bothered to bit left. i can't be bothered to do any of this stuff. i don't know. what do you think? >> that might be part of >> i think that might be part of it. i also just think that there is there's real problem is like there's a real problem of civil service has has of the civil service has has really departed from its original mentality of understanding things could understanding that things could be that you had be apolitical and that you had a duty. and of course, when a

government is weak, i think the civil service and for want of a better word, the blob will kind of fill that void . the of expand to fill that void. the blob does quite well in chaos and a lot of turnover and we've had a lot of turnover of prime ministers the past. of prime ministers in the past. >> that that what >> but that that that's what there great morale if there can't be great morale if you're being berated you're constantly being berated and called the blob. and calling called the blob. >> maybe you should be but then you you see somebody you recognise you see somebody that's supposed hand in that's supposed to go hand in hand is okay. >> but the thing is with the blob is that i know it's not an ideal word, but then you read about like that. we're about stuff like that. we're going talking about story going to be talking about story shortly in which became clear shortly in which it became clear that barclay various that steve barclay had various proposals the proposals to try to reduce the numbers of migrants. those proposals outrageous. proposals are outrageous. >> important thing. >> this is an important thing. that's example an that's an example of an impractical policy in a civil servant doing job. no, no, servant doing its job. no, no, it's not actually wrong. it's not their job. the civil service should invisible should be invisible or they should be invisible or they should have an opinion one should not have an opinion one way or the other. they should just act. >> no opinion. but they to >> no opinion. but they have to look possible to look at whether it's possible to implement we have. >> we have political systems to do that. i sit in one every day. i sit in lords, the civil

service are becoming an activist service and that's where the problem lies. if the service and that's where the problem lies . if the civil problem lies. if the civil service are asked to do something and it works out badly, but they've carried it out to the letter, can out to the letter, they can quite happily fingers at quite happily point fingers at politicians. if you look politicians. but if you look what happened to amber for what happened to amber rudd, for instance, starts to show you what happened to amber rudd, for instesome starts to show you what happened to amber rudd, for instesome people, to show you what happened to amber rudd, for instesome people, well, w you what happened to amber rudd, for instesome people, well, this u what happened to amber rudd, for instesome people, well, this is that some people, well, this is it, acting. but they've it, well, acting. but they've got feasibility, got to look at the feasibility, look, dominic, dominic look, you know, dominic, dominic raab well, you know, i mean, raab as well, you know, i mean, some of the things that ended up doing for him were him. i would argue, quite rightfully argue, getting quite rightfully frustrated at not getting frustrated at stuff, not getting done. and when you look at some of the potential mistakes that were in there, you know, gibraltar might have been handed back the spanish without back to the spanish without a shot mean, i get shot being fired. i mean, i get angry, but they're being they're being put forward, these unfeasible potential, well, often illegal, completely impractical policies. >> so they're not going to be able to push them through and work able to push them through and worthey're impossible to work >> they're impossible to work on simply >> they're impossible to work on sim for instance, if it might >> they're impossible to work on simfor instance, if it might be >> for instance, if it might be correct in terms of in terms of rwanda, that's a good one. >> the dependence that you were talking about, unethical .

talking about, unethical. >> it because if it's >> i hate it because if it's illegal, that's legal illegal, that's what our legal system is we have a supreme system is for. we have a supreme court. we have some of the best lawyers on it, spending lawyers working on it, spending loads money on loads of money on it. >> it's impossible to implement. their be the checks their job is to be the checks and the policy in and balance of the policy in terms in an unbiased way. terms of in an unbiased way. you're confusing two things here. , even here. i mean, rwanda, even putting rwanda aside, i don't think be controversial think it should be controversial if that you if a minister says that you could have more of a guest worker scheme where people come and don't family and they don't bring family members them, we should members with them, we should push that's not an push for that. that's not an insane policy. i think that's unethical. you're unethical. why? because you're you're you're conservative. you love the nuclear family. let's keep them together at least. okay, fine. >> but is this is this is this not the point? >> you have to pay for dependence? and if the public doesn't want that and people dependence? and if the public doehappy|nt that and people dependence? and if the public doehappy to that and people dependence? and if the public doehappy to come|nd people dependence? and if the public doe happy to come without ople are happy to come without dependence, that shouldn't be beyond. >> is this not the point, though, amy? and finally, though, amy? and very finally, on very finally on this, if on this very finally on this, if a that policy is not illegal. a if that policy is not illegal. right. which is the right. which which is which the courts decide. which courts would decide. yeah. which the decide anyway. courts would decide. yeah. which the an decide anyway. courts would decide. yeah. which the an elected decide anyway. courts would decide. yeah. which the an elected government'way. and an elected government

official to implement official wants to implement that policy. civil policy. and you are a civil servant. you you shouldn't really say, well, morally really say, well, i'm morally opposed not. opposed to it, so i'm not. >> no, not morally opposed. >> no, it's not morally opposed. it's completely neutral, impartial, neutral, apolitical way that is unethical. way to say that is unethical. no, not. no if you you no, i'm not. no if you you cannot hold on the word cannot put that hold on the word ethic means you've an opinion. >> the only people have an opinion a politicians and opinion and a politicians and the servants should the law, civil servants should just right. well, i'll just quite right. well, i'll tell you a story that everyone's got on. okay if the got an opinion on. okay if the travellers community. okay. because the supreme court, our friends councils can friends rules that councils can ban travellers from their land , ban travellers from their land, is it right to get tougher on the travelling community or are they victims of one of the last forms of quote unquote acceptable racist ism? i'm going to be joined by irish traveller and former star of my big fat gypsy and former star of my big fat gypsy wedding, paddy and former star of my big fat gypsy wedding , paddy doherty. gypsy wedding, paddy doherty. and he hits out at what he calls discrimination against his people shortly. but first, as bbc radio star niall sparks controversy by claiming that he struggles with an overwhelmingly white working environment, should skin colour really matter

in the workplace? bbc legend liz kershaw, who claims that she was ostracised at the beeb, weighs in. that's next. don't move

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fair enough? have you had some nightmare experiences or do you think maybe it's actual racism? but first, yes. think maybe it's actual racism? but first, yes . another bbc star but first, yes. another bbc star has hit the headlines. this time it's turn of radio five live it's the turn of radio five live presenter neil arthur nick gibb, who's claimed that an overwhelmingly white working environment is affecting his mental health. speaking to a journalism diversity conference yesterday, the presenter said this. it's really affecting me that i walk in and all i see is white people. the hardest thing is to walk into a room, look around and nobody looks like you . and in a further blow, neil blasted the beeb for not having quotes. a single muslim involved in the senior editorial processes at radio five live. well, i'm joined now by the legendary journalist and dj liz kershaw, who works at the bbc for over 30 years. liz thank you very, very much. what do you make of neil's comments ? do you make of neil's comments? do you think that, you know , it's think that, you know, it's actually okay to suggest that if you walk into a room and it's predominantly one race of people, that that could be

damaging for your mental health? well, i and it was over 35 years, patrick, 3722 and when i when i first well, first of all, i'd like to say that everybody, if they see something's wrong, should feel they can speak up about it . about it. >> i always did often it you know , favours, but i believe in know, favours, but i believe in that. but when i first walked into the bbc nationally in 1987, radio one, um , you know, there radio one, um, you know, there were no women there and there were no women there and there were three, three, three female presenters in 25 male presenters and i fought till late 2018 before it was decreed by the director general. after i'd written a report analysing all the airtime and what percentage of it was presented by women, which even then was only 17. and i presented a report to the director general that went to parliament. questions were asked in the house, and then finally tony hall declared that 20% of

on air people , whether they were on air people, whether they were guests or presenters or contributors, 20% should be non—white . and then june sarpong non—white. and then june sarpong was brought in as the diversity tsar for 180,000 a year, for half a day a week. and she made sure that was implemented. so really good people were removed from their shows to get that quota up. now he's there. and by the way , can i say bless him? i the way, can i say bless him? i don't think he's thought this through. i've worked with him. he probably didn't prepare properly. he probably spoke spontaneously, probably didn't have the facts at his fingertips. and he was in an environment where he was under pressure to say something. audience pleasing. and we know the of the conference, but the title of the conference, but he said he feels that it's predominantly white and he's outnumbered. well, the uk is predominantly white and whatever it is, whether it's tv ads or dramas or news broadcast, it's

should reflect the percentages in the population , the real in the population, the real population and in this country we're talking about we're talking about non—white and white. then 13% of the population is not white and 9% are asian . as he started are asian. as he started introducing religion and talked about muslims in bbc management, while 3.5% of people in this country currently sorry, 6.6. 5% of these people, people in this country are currently muslim . so country are currently muslim. so it can't expect asked them to be a majority . bbc it's got to a majority. bbc it's got to reflect . reflect. >> i mean the bbc, the bbc does does have the bbc's asian network as well to be honest, which, which i think you've got some, you've got some strong views on that. go on. >> yeah. i've argued this sets up the asian network and they set up one extra hour and the asian network was what it says for asian people living in this

country. and one extra was all about black music, urban music , about black music, urban music, that culture, music of black origin, mobo or whatever. and i said, this is wrong. origin, mobo or whatever. and i said, this is wrong . all radio said, this is wrong. all radio should be inclusive of all people and cultures that live in our british society and that's for the good of everyone . and as for the good of everyone. and as for the good of everyone. and as for asians and black people, they're being ghettoised by the bbc. it's like some posh person in a suit is sat in broadcasting house and said, oh, we better give these people their own little radio station so they don't don't bother us. and that's always bothered me . so if that's always bothered me. so if i walk in there, then i'm outnumbered . at one point we had outnumbered. at one point we had to broadcast from the one extra studios because i was at six music were being upgraded and i was the only white face in there at points . um, but that's what at points. um, but that's what that was set up for. i really think that is a very silly boy

because if you look at the five live schedule, if you look at what they call daytime peak time, 6 am. to 6 pm, he presents three hours of that three hours of 12. so he's presenting 25% of that station's output on a weekday peak time. and i really don't think it's got anything to groan about. he's done very well all in the bbc. >> oh, i mean, you make i mean, i'll let you go on there because you just made a series of really, really interesting points. >> northerner, you know, we're both northerners. yeah. the other way. the thing that i noficed other way. the thing that i noticed when i got to the bbc was i was a northerner and that was i was a northerner and that was alien . the sun even did was alien. the sun even did a big spread . this woman needs big spread. this woman needs subtitles. nobody can understand what she's talking about. that that's awful. i last year i was interviewed on a local radio station, a bbc local radio station, a bbc local radio station that where i used to present the breakfast show. and this person said to me, what

were you doing on this station? you're not even from this area . you're not even from this area. so after the programme , i so after the programme, i thought about it and i was upset. so i rang up and asked to talk to the managing editor of the station who happened to be asian. and i said to him, i was telling him and was telling him and he was dismissing it. and i said to him, how would you feel if somebody said to you, why are you this station? you running this station? you're not from and he said, not even from here? and he said, right, racist. and right, you're racist. and put the me , you know, the phone down on me, you know, and to it's been it's taking years for northerners to be accepted in the media. in fact, it's gone the other way. and i paid for my son to go to a pubuc paid for my son to go to a public school so he wouldn't have to contend with the barriers that i have had to. and now he's too posh. he couldn't get he couldn't too posh. >> you can't think you're alluding to the idea that you just can't win. well it's interesting. we're going to be returning to this a bit later on because we've done some we've correlated some facts and figures about bbc's diversity quotas diversity and

quotas and diversity drives and how people who are white can't actually apply for things. it's not to diminish. actually apply for things. it's not to diminish . look, if the not to diminish. look, if the thing is , if nigel genuinely thing is, if nigel genuinely feels like that right, then then that's his his version of his own lived experience . and i'm own lived experience. and i'm sympathetic towards that. obviously i mean, you know, i don't know what his lived experience necessarily is. i think question marks think there are question marks about really meant about whether he really meant it. i think a lot of people feel as though is it really true that when you walk into the bbc, you're presented with an ocean of white people and that that really damages your mental health? i'm not convinced, but we're going to have to leave it there for now. i'm afraid we could probably end up having our own some point soon. own show at some point soon. i enjoyed that. oh, that might be too northerners on telly at too many northerners on telly at the we don't have the same time. no, we don't have those here news. as those rules here at gb news. as you take care now, a spokesperson for the bbc said, we want everyone works at we want everyone who works at the bbc and considering the bbc and those considering a career know we are career with us to know we are focussed creating an focussed on creating an inclusive culture where everyone feels belong. be feels they belong. it'll be interesting to see how they react now, won't it? but

react to this now, won't it? but coming up, a story that has shocked many today. policeman shocked many today. a policeman responsible tasing of a responsible for this tasing of a ten old girl got off scot free. >> oh, no. put him down now . >> oh, no. put him down now. >> oh, no. put him down now. >> yeah. we'll reveal all a little bit later on. there is more to that story than meets the eye, although it just raised the eye, although it just raised the question is it ever really okay to taser a child? but there we go. i'll show you what happened when ann widdecombe cast the merits cast her verdict on the merits of arming cops with tasers shortly. also answer shortly. she'll also answer whether piers morgan has whether or not piers morgan has fallen into scobie's trap fallen into omid scobie's trap by outrageously revealing the so—called royal racist identities. don't miss that . but identities. don't miss that. but first, irish traveller and star of big brother and my big fat gypsy of big brother and my big fat gypsy wedding, paddy doherty explains why a new supreme court ruling against travellers represents discrimination. plain and simple. where are you on this? do you think it is about time that councils got tough on travellers?

isabel monday to thursday from six till 930 . six till 930. >> all right. now i want to hear from you. okay, gb views and gbnews.com. it's a controversial topic this, but when have we ever shied away from that? hey, so our council is right. buoyed by supreme court ruling to get tough on the travelling community. now some people think mainly from the travelling community that the only acceptable form of racism left. i'm air quoting there for anyone listening on radio is against the travelling community. you know not allowed to have weddings at hotels venues

cancelling on them, people talking nastily about them quite openly in pubs or just amongst openly in pubs orjust amongst their friends, etcetera. you know, is that really, you know, hear that really about any kind of other demographic of people, do you. so i want to hear from you on this or, you know, have you on this or, you know, have you had some negative experience with travelling community. with the travelling community. vaiews@gbnews.com me know vaiews@gbnews.com let me know on that one. but before i do that, i'm just going to return very, very now to a very, very quickly now to a question i posed you wonderful individuals should individuals earlier on should home servants be home office civil servants be sacked not knowing how many sacked for not knowing how many asylum are on run ? asylum seekers are on the run? are lee yes. sue yes. steve yes. truth hurts on twitter says get rid of the home office entirely. you've gone nuclear there . so you've gone nuclear there. so there's quite a lot of this and a wonderful email in gb views at gb views dot com from another sue lots of sue's in tonight saying the clue is in the job description. civil servant i.e. you serve the country , not run you serve the country, not run it so there we go. but yes, as i was saying in a major blow to

the travelling community, they are being made to disband or disperse . that's after a supreme disperse. that's after a supreme court ruling ban them from living on council owned land and to clamp down on unauthorised mass settling. so 38 councils have set up no go zones to stop families pitching up in parks fields and roadside verges without permission. tory mps peter bottomley from the all party parliamentary group for gypsies, travellers and roma , gypsies, travellers and roma, said this unauthorised caravanning should not continue . caravanning should not continue. so there's a difference between one traveller household finding spare land to rest at and that is a contrast to 20 or 40 or 60 modern vehicles with modern caravans taking over public space and making life uncomfortable for regular users. interesting. one really where i grew up , there were quite grew up, there were quite regular traveller sites that would pop up from time to time. every now and again. and i know speaking to people who owned those bits of land that it was very, very difficult to get them

off there. there was one time locally to in my local park locally to me in my local park where turned that where they turned up in that park there for park and stayed there for a couple of weeks. and then when they left it, there was rubbish mounting everywhere. there mounting up everywhere. there was excrement, was was human excrement, there was all this and it cost all of this stuff and it cost the local taxpayer thousands of pounds council to come pounds for the council to come and clean that there are and clean that up. there are notable situations as well, aren't there, of people finding it difficult to it very, very difficult to actually remove them from these sites and whether or not you think that's okay, i believe we might be able to bring in ann widdecombe now on this very, very of course, a tour de very topic. of course, a tour de force in british politics. and thank very, very much. how thank you very, very much. how do feel about this then? do do you feel about this then? do you it's right that you think that it's right that the travelling community should you think that it's right that theclampedg community should you think that it's right that theclamped downimunity should you think that it's right that theclamped down oninity should you think that it's right that theclamped down on more hould you think that it's right that theclamped down on more byrld you think that it's right that theclamped down on more by local be clamped down on more by local councils? well, i can't believe that it's taken this long. >> i mean, when i was a member of parliament, i was a member of parliament for 23 years and i encountered exactly this problem with illegal encampments, which left a lot of mess, was the source of crime, etcetera, etcetera . and i encountered that

etcetera. and i encountered that very early and it was still going on. i mean, not in exactly the same places, but it was still going on as a problem. when i left 23 years later. and it's something that nobody's really been prepared to get to gnps really been prepared to get to grips with now , the counter side grips with now, the counter side of this is that there are perfectly respectable members of the travelling community and they do need some provision . they do need some provision. >> okay. all right. well, look , >> okay. all right. well, look, hopefully shortly we might be able to speak to paddy doherty , able to speak to paddy doherty, the king of the travellers , as the king of the travellers, as he's referred to, star of big fat gypsy wedding, and also big brother. so hopefully we'll be able to bring paddy in. but some people would say that there is discrimination against the traveller community. get traveller community. they get called as if wedding called slurs as if a wedding venue finds out that that's a traveller wedding or a gypsy wedding. often they cancel it, you know, do you think that that's a form of racism or . that's a form of racism or. >> well, you've got to ask why they're so unwilling and it

isn't just because of discrimination or because they don't happen to like travellers. it's not that at all. it's the sum of experience over years of what can happen now. you don't tar all football supporters going abroad for the antics of some who bring britain into disrepute. but of course people get very wary and this is what's happening here. people are getting wary. and i think it might help if those who are sensible, respectable , law sensible, respectable, law abiding educate their kids. et cetera. those who do all those things and belong to travelling communities actually put a bit more pressure on the others to stop giving them such a bad reputation . well ann, thank you reputation. well ann, thank you very much for doing a bit of overtime for us. >> i'm going to return to you. so stay where you are at, don't you dare move. okay. i'll come back to you. but we can bring in paddy doherty now. i really hope we can. former star of big we can. the former star of big brother. and yes, there he is.

good luck. thank very, very good luck. thank you very, very much, know you've much, paddy. now, i know you've got views on this, got some strong views on this, haven't how you feel haven't you? how do you feel about councils getting tough on the traveller community? >> right . and it just said >> well, right. and it just said it there yet it can't be any worse than what it is now. yeah. why is it slowly moved us into sites where in sites now all of a sudden now you want every traveller. it's the way it's going to be. it's going to buy every traveller. it's to every traveller. it's got to move into a house. it's we can't help how we're born. when you're born generation, born from your generation, you're . it's like you're born from that. it's like the family. they're born the royal family. they're born into you're born like, into royalty. you're born like, i'm born a traveller. i've never denied my race the rest of my life. never would. and that goes for child. english irish, for every child. english irish, welsh, scotch, american . we're welsh, scotch, american. we're all one community. we're all of one community. we're travellers. we're not dirty gypsies we're travellers. gypsies. we're travellers. you know . and could you do that? know. and could you do that? what you're saying there, like move everyone off. you couldn't what you're saying there, like mothat veryone off. you couldn't what you're saying there, like mothat to yone off. you couldn't what you're saying there, like mothat to new off. you couldn't what you're saying there, like mothat to new age you couldn't what you're saying there, like mothat to new age travellers. 't do that to new age travellers. you know who the new age travellers they're the travellers is? they're the hippie yeah. and hippie travellers. yeah. and every community goes to

every place my community goes to in north wales , when it goes on in north wales, when it goes on campsite to form the council up and you can check on it, the form council up and asks, form the council up and asks, can bins out in a can you bring bins out in a pubuc can you bring bins out in a public toilet out. they've public toilet out. and they've and council that and the council does that because they're not only going to there for two weeks and to be there for two weeks and then they move and haven't then they move on. and i haven't seen what's left? seen a site yet. what's left? rough. yes, years ago it rough. rough. yes, years ago it used get wagons and used to be to get wagons and stuff up and all that. but that's finished. them days is gone. it is slowly going and gone. oh, it is slowly going and no one's done it. only the community is house of community is the house of parliament doing it because parliament is doing it because they look as like rubbish . they look as like we're rubbish. well see, see this they look as like we're rubbish. well paddy, see this they look as like we're rubbish. well paddy, you see this as an paddy, paddy, you see this as an attack on your culture, i think, don't you? >> and you've made some, some incredibly strong points there. well, look, paddy, i wish you. i wish you all the best. i'm sorry that couldn't have little that we couldn't have a little bit because we bit longer with you because we had connection issues. but had some connection issues. but i'm i'll you back i'm hopefully i'll get you back on.and i'm hopefully i'll get you back on. and thank you very much for coming on and putting your side of is, of course, of it up. so that is, of course, paddy there, paddy doherty there, tv personality, of big paddy doherty there, tv per�*gypsyy, of big paddy doherty there, tv per�* gypsy wedding. of big paddy doherty there, tv per�* gypsy wedding. thank big paddy doherty there, tv per�* gypsy wedding. thank you fat gypsy wedding. thank you very, very much. now, coming up, as world's leaders get jet

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ten >> welcome back. now met officer pc jonathan broadhead has been cleared of gross misconduct after tasering a ten year old girl who threatened her mother with garden shears. here's the dramatic footage showing how police pursued the girl through her house before opening up. hello >> yeah. >> yeah. >> put me down now. put him down now . down now. now. down now. >> please don't . through the >> please don't. through the taser. say the taser . do it now, taser. say the taser. do it now, now . right. now. right. >> oh, right. put you. >> oh, right. put you. >> please do not say down. >> please do not say down. >> stay down. put your arms out. put your arms out. >> now . >> now. >> now. >> out on top of your head . >> out on top of your head. right. stand up . face that . wall

right. stand up. face that. wall >> great. right. well, commander john saville defended pc broadhead's use of the taser in this circumstance, saying tasers provide officers with the ability to de—escalate situations and protect others from harm. giving evidence on tuesday , the officer said this . tuesday, the officer said this. i was worried that her intentions were with the shears. taser was the best option i had . taser was the best option i had. well, an can the police be trusted with tasers ? i mean, it trusted with tasers? i mean, it does look a little bit egregious. and widdecombe rejoins us, by the way, welcome back the fray. and yeah , back to the fray. and yeah, should police officers be using tasers kids ? yes tasers against kids? yes >> if the circumstances demanded . you've shown a very dramatic episode , sir. what? you didn't episode, sir. what? you didn't show us was the equally dramatic call from the mother who was scared of the child who'd already hit her with a hammer, who was waving shears of all things around and who allegedly

also was suspected of having drugs in her. now the police went into that situation . if went into that situation. if they hadn't used tasers, if they'd tried to physically get they'd tried to physically get the shears from her and they were injured, then you and all these other people who are condemning the police would be full of sympathy and saying it's not fair that the police have to face situations. they did face these situations. they did what i believe was proportionate time that why the time, and that is why the officer has been cleared. now, if he'd just gone in and started using it gratuitous, he wouldn't have cleared . mhm. have been cleared. mhm. >> it's interesting because >> no, it's interesting because you can argue well in fact it was argued successfully that in that situation it's absolutely fine to use a taser against a child . do you feel comfortable child. do you feel comfortable with all police officers walking around with tasers as well? >> yes , i do. i would prefer >> yes, i do. i would prefer them to be using tasers than guns and that they do need , um, guns and that they do need, um, you know, they they need protection against criminals. they need protection. and if

they have no other choice, i'd much rather they use the taser than the gun. so, yes, i am perfectly happy with this. are we going to back the police in the fight against crime? or every time something difficult like this happens, are we going to turn the police now ? our decision? >> yeah. i mean , you can argue >> yeah. i mean, you can argue that's exactly what a taser is for. and the police have to be blind in that situation. an if there is a report that someone has hit someone with a hammer and they're currently waving garden around they garden shears around and they don't do, don't do exactly what you do, then get the taser out and crack on. convicted criminal on. but a convicted criminal was taken deportation flight. taken off a deportation flight. an story. this but an different story. this but i think, equally good think, yeah, equally good talking point. so he's taken off a deportation flight and back to his home country so didn't go back to his home country after rebel passengers to sit rebel passengers refused to sit down on the plane. so the jamaican crook was helped by a 26 year old mancunian called hannah gaffey. the former home secretary, priti patel, has criticised the cambridge university educated brit

classic, saying anyone who deliberately stops the removal of a foreign national offender should face the courts for the taxpayers funds their actions are consuming for the wasted legal and court time that they are racking up and for effectively standing by dangerous criminals who are a threat to the british public. what do you think here? and i mean, that was me, i'd be mean, if that was me, i'd be gutted. i didn't get to go to jamaica. yeah, well, mean, as jamaica. yeah, well, i mean, as last this happened, of last time this happened, of course, passengers thwarted course, when passengers thwarted a it turned it a deportation, it turned out it was rapist and the poor victim was a rapist and the poor victim had to endure the fact that he then stayed for years before the home office finally managed to deport home office finally managed to depand as far as i'm concerned, >> and as far as i'm concerned, the incident that hannah gaffey refused sit down. she should refused to sit down. she should have been removed the have been removed from the aircraft , not the book. she aircraft, not the book. she should have been removed from the aircraft. it would been the aircraft. it would have been a deterrent to other a big deterrent to other passengers . and i'm totally with passengers. and i'm totally with priti patel. if you do that sort of thing, then you must face the courts . and she said she felt courts. and she said she felt elated. i think as i said in my

express column, very good column, by the way, every wednesday, as i said in my express column i she express column, i think she should made face the should be made to face the victims and tell them how elated she feels. victims and tell them how elated sheyeah,. victims and tell them how elated sheyeah, no, indeed. this idea >> yeah, no, indeed. this idea that you can get in the way and stop things knowing what that you can get in the way and stop tpeople knowing what that you can get in the way and stop tpeople done ning what that you can get in the way and stop tpeople done for] what that you can get in the way and stop tpeople done for me|at that you can get in the way and stop tpeople done for me is these people have done for me is arguably the most unintelligent approach to the kind of open borders anti deport asian thing whatsoever. when you say to them , do you know whether or not that has murdered that person has murdered or raped or a terrorist raped someone or is a terrorist and if you answer to that is no, there be just maybe have there may be just maybe you have to that our security to assume that our security services are doing their job right. but i've just got right. but i've just about got time, man, something that time, man, for something that broke, long before we broke, not too long before we came because the dutch came on air because the dutch translator scobie's translator of omid scobie's book end sensationally end game, has sensationally revealed that the name of the two old royal racists two so—called old royal racists were in the manuscript out, despite the author insisting they never submitted a book with them in it. meanwhile the palace is reportedly considering legal action after piers morgan did make their identities public. our channel won't be doing that,

apparently . and what's your apparently. and what's your what's your views on that then? look it is utterly impossible that a manuscript was provided which had no names at all. >> and then the publishers put into names. that is impossible. that did not happen. i don't believe that happened . so believe that happened. so i think that the names were there. i think quite likely it was an earlier draft and maybe omid scobie did not invent that. they may be made public, but they weren't there. >> i just wonder if piers has fallen into a little bit of a trap here. you know , and they trap here. you know, and they wanted him to end up blowing his top like that and maybe facing some consequences. what do you think ? well, i think certainly think? well, i think certainly no, no. >> he's put the names into the pubuc >> he's put the names into the public domain, which he should not have done. interestingly he tom bower, in his book named the supposedly royal racist. and it wasn't either of them. so we've now got three characters in the

frame. i think the situation is that there was just very innocent conversation going on. you know, you ask what colour a child's hair might be and, you know, i know people in mixed marriages who've had such conversations. think was marriages who've had such coninnocent... think was marriages who've had such coninnocent. i think was marriages who've had such coninnocent. ithink< was marriages who've had such coninnocent. i think omid|s all innocent. i think omid scobie is a nasty, vengeful type. >> write strong stuff and thank you very, very much. as ever. you take care. that is ann widdecombe. there former conservative minister right now. coming by private coming up, arriving by private jet rubbing shoulders with other elites in an oil state with a abominable human rights record. that doesn't sound like a serious climate conference, does it? but that's cop 28, everybody. now shortly i'll be joined by the human rights lawyer david hague, who had an absolutely harrowing experience in a dubai prison as he hits out at the pampered politicians attending hypocrisy attending the hypocrisy convention in the uae . i will convention in the uae. i will also be revealing something very special on tomorrow's show . i special on tomorrow's show. i will be having a world exclusive, an interview that a lot of people wanted to get a

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not making this up. cop 28 the climate conference to save humanity is taking place in a middle eastern oil state with an abominable human rights record , abominable human rights record, and they're flying in using and they're all flying in using private jets. to private jets. i talked to a survivor of human rights atrocities in dubai and a climate activist who also hates this awful charade. they've pleased nobody. and tomorrow i have a world exclusive for you. why do you love him so much ? why do you love him so much? shortly, i'll reveal who my mystery guest is. it's a good one. i think you will like it. and tune in for tomorrow's newspaper. front pages. and what's inside the book, as well as press pack getting busy on as my press pack getting busy on the sofa tonight. we've got the telegraph star muddling grant. we've bailey and we've got lord shaun bailey and the punchy amy nicole the ever punchy amy nicole turner. not wave inside. this is patrick christys tonight. and we're live . we're live. email may gb views on gbnews.com

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lives in gaza before it continues its military operations. anthony blinken insists the immediate priority is to extend the temporary ceasefire beyond the current seven days and while he says the us will continue to support israel's efforts to eliminate hamas, the loss of life in northern gaza cannot be repeated in the south. israel has the right to do everything it can to ensure that the slaughter hamas carried out on october seventh can never be repeated . can never be repeated. >> hamas cannot remain in control of gaza. it cannot retain the capacity to repeat that carnage. but as i've also said since i first came here after october seventh, the way israel defends itself matters as before israel resumes major military operations. it must put in place humanitarian, civilian protection plans that minimise further casualties of innocent palestina tions in the uk. >> matt hancock says a culture of fear inside downing street , of fear inside downing street, created by boris johnson's chief

adviser , undermined the adviser, undermined the government's pandemic response . government's pandemic response. s the former health secretary has described dominic cummings as a malign actor at the covid inquiry and said the country should have gone into lockdown three weeks sooner if we'd had. >> the doctrine that i propose , >> the doctrine that i propose, which is as soon as you know you've got a lockdown, you lock down as soon as possible. then we would have got the lockdown done over that weekend on the done over that weekend in on the 2nd three weeks 2nd of march, three weeks earlier before. there's earlier than before. there's a doubung earlier than before. there's a doubling rate at this point, estimated every to 4 days. we estimated every 3 to 4 days. we would have been six doublings ahead of where we were, which means that fewer than a 10th of the number of people would have died in the first wave. >> tributes have been paid from both sides of the political divide the labour divide to the former labour chancellor alistair darling, who's age of 70. who's died at the age of 70. lord darling served as a cabinet minister 31 years. under minister for 31 years. under both tony blair and gordon brown , who praised his wisdom calmness in a crisis and his humour for the prime minister, says he was a dedicated politician who served the

country through challenging times and the labour leader, sir keir starmer, has described his loss to those who knew him as immeasurable. >> alastair's death has caused a shock and a profound sadness across not just the whole labour movement, but across everybody who loved him and respected him. and that's basically everybody who knew him. he was the dedicated public servant . he who knew him. he was the dedicated public servant. he was kind. i was privileged to know him as a friend and to have his advice and our hearts go out to maggie, his wife and their children on this very, very sad day . day. >> and at least three police officers have been injured in pre—match clashes in birmingham ahead of aston villa's match against legia warsaw west midlands. police say fans of the poush midlands. police say fans of the polish side wouldn't be allowed into the stadium after missiles were thrown at officers ahead of the game in the europa conference league . aston villa conference league. aston villa have just won the game two one. a significant policing operation continues . well, this is gb news

continues. well, this is gb news on tv digital radio, and on your smart speaker too. that's it for the moment. now it's over to . patrick >> the bbc isn't woke enough . >> the bbc isn't woke enough. that's the kind of joke that would end up on mock the week's cutting room floor. but believe it not, that's strongly it or not, that's the strongly held view of one of its employees who got radio five presenter niall . speaking to a presenter niall. speaking to a journalism diversity conference yesterday, he revealed working in the bbc's, quote, overwhelmingly white environment is affecting his mental health. neil continued it's really affecting me that i walk in and all i see is white people. the hardest thing is to walk into a room, look around and nobody looks like you. he also complained that there wasn't a muslim person senior muslim person in senior editorial positions. okay that's niall's alleged lived experience, and i respect that . experience, and i respect that. but does he think that he's working for blm instead of the bbc? i mean, the population of england and wales is 82% white.

so does the population in general give him mental health problems? that's kind of what i want here. does just want to know here. does just walking give him mental walking around give him mental health problems ? reality, our health problems? in reality, our state broadcaster is fanatical about diversity and inclusion. just look at the facts . the bbc just look at the facts. the bbc have committed to at least 20% black, asian and minority ethnic staff, even though that demographic accounts for just 18% of the population. in 2021, they banned white people from applying to a trainee job on springwatch. and the one show white people have not really recovered from that. of course they have. the bbc asian network described as a radio station featuring music and speech likely appeal to those with likely to appeal to those with an in british asian an interest in british asian lifestyles presenter there lifestyles. one presenter there recently an image on recently shared an image on social media with slogan social media with the slogan from the river to the sea, and then guz. isn't then there's guz. khan, isn't there? muslim comic who's there? the muslim comic who's been to have i got been booked to host have i got news for you? who's accused israel of committing war crimes and ethnic and partaking in ethnic cleansing palestinian as cleansing of the palestinian as he was also dropped from an uber eats casting aspersions

eats ad after casting aspersions about priti patel's own asian heritage . meanwhile, i've just heritage. meanwhile, i've just spoken with liz kershaw, who is just one of several broadcasting veterans to be unceremoniously dumped by the beeb. she keeps company with the likes of ken bruce, steve wright, sue barker, vanessa feltz , jeremy clarkson. vanessa feltz, jeremy clarkson. how many other over 60s does neil actually see in his plush bbc studios? do you think his employer actually maybe has a problem with ageism? more than diversity? these are questions i would love to pose to neil, but of course he's decided to not respond to our request to appear on the show or provide a statement. look, i don't claim to have neil's own personal lived experience, but if a white bbc stood on stage and bbc employee stood on stage and said that working with many ethnic minorities for ethnic minorities is bad for their mental health, i'm not sure they'd have a job to go to. the so does the bbc the next day. so does the bbc really have a problem when it comes to diversity and inclusion, or they actually inclusion, or are they actually just consumed by it? just totally consumed by it? they respond. i've daily they respond. i've got daily telegraph madeline telegraph columnist madeline grant. conservative

grant. i've got conservative peer bailey and author and peer lord bailey and author and broadcaster amy nicholl turner. shaun, i'll go to you first on this. what do you reckon to that? i mean, look, i'll go to your your stat first. if he can't be around white people, he's either campaigning for apartheid or campaigning for unemployment to make unemployment. he needs to make his because 82% of the his mind up because 82% of the people in this country are white. okay. just slightly issue with mike. we'll our with you, mike. we'll get our turned quickly. turned on very, very quickly. madeline, views? madeline, your views? >> think it's kind >> yeah, i just think it's kind of i thought the language was very interesting. you know, he talked feeling sort of talked of feeling sort of distress, mentally, distress, just mentally, emotionally forth. i emotionally and so forth. and i think although obviously think although this is obviously like divisive thing for like a very divisive thing for someone say, especially someone to say, especially someone to say, especially someone you someone who's working for, you know, broadcaster or know, the state broadcaster or in receipt of the taxpayer money, i think it's too easy to just single out neil, because this kind of rhetoric is actually very, very common. all sorts of workplaces the sorts of workplaces across the country, have completely country, people have completely bought the logic bought into the divisive logic of identity politics and these kind of policies are being enacted by hr departments across the country right now. so i

think problem goes a lot think the problem goes a lot further this one individual. >> okay, amy, your take on this. do you think that it's a bit racist actually to come out and say that kind of stuff? i don't i don't think it's racist. >> and this is what i think we need to look at the intention version of what he said and the context of where he said it. so he said it at a diversity and inclusion event for underrepresented groups in journalism. and i think his intention was just to demonstrate that there is an underrepresentation in journalism. >> it definitely is problems. >> it definitely is problems. >> and i think it was quite heavy, quite clumsy . but i think heavy, quite clumsy. but i think his intention was just to demonstrate and to provoke a discussion about why there is still underrepresentation within journalism, which could be due to things like barriers . to things like barriers. >> i see what you're saying. i see what you're saying. but of course he never said that. he never said that at all. he said that going to work with white people gave him mental health problems. back to my

problems. and i go back to my point. people in this point. most people in this country white. country are white. >> he's either he's either >> so he's either he's either campaigning for unemployment or campaigning for unemployment or can heigning campaigning for unemployment or can he needs to make mind up. >> he needs to make his mind up. but the most important thing is to divisive statement driving to divisive statement is driving a wedge between communities . a wedge between communities. >> there's point >> you know, there's a point where, you know, people of colour have faced racism in this country and we fought it for years. there's a point if years. but there's a point if you keep accusing white people of for absolutely of being racist for absolutely no they'll just be no reason, then they'll just be racist. well, existing in racist. well, just existing in this want this case, we don't want to discourage types of discourage these types of discussions because surely discussions because surely discussions diversity discussions about diversity and inclusion how we do feel inclusion and how we do feel really important to progress, but we really want to discourage this of provocative use this kind of provocative use less statement because it's just driving people into opposing corners. there's nothing there's nothing in this in this that help us work something out. is it? it'll just cause a fight. well okay, so. so, manny, i'll put to you then. so let's say that he genuinely turns up to work every single day at the bbc, he around and bbc, and he looks around and it's sea of white people , and it's a sea of white people, and that makes him feel

uncomfortable . should the bbc do uncomfortable. should the bbc do anything that ? anything about that? >> i mean, i don't know. >> god, i mean, i don't know. i don't know what the bbc ought to don't know what the bbc ought to do about this. i do think that if you live, as sean said, in a country with 82% white people, statistics likely there will be occasions there are only occasions when there are only white and white people around you and that's sign of that's not necessarily a sign of racism or some kind of malicious . it's simply people existing in a that remains a country that remains predominantly white. i just think, though, that saying these sorts of things in a broadcast like the bbc, i mean, i can remember growing up with the bbc and i genuinely felt like the programming that was coming out of was there to be not of it was there to be not browbeating you. you know, you would just good history would just have a good history documentary. example, documentary. for example, that was to, know, was not trying to, you know, make political it was make a political point. it was just history documentary. and just a history documentary. and i think that is perhaps i do think that this is perhaps an indication of if people in the working it have the bbc working within it have come imbibe these sorts of come to imbibe these sorts of values, kind explains the values, it kind of explains the pretty shoddy programming that has been coming out of bbc recently. >> but if you go on if you go on

iplayer, would too there iplayer, i would argue too there is overrepresentation of is an overrepresentation of things that are quite virtue signalling whether it is and it's all absolutely fine. of course, whether it is things to do i think quite a large do with, i think quite a large number stuff about the lgbtq+ number of stuff about the lgbtq+ community, a large number community, quite a large number of things in relation to race. i also think that there's usually some kind of angle put on something that doesn't necessarily need be there. necessarily need to be in there. that my view, no doubt that will be my view, no doubt they will dispute it. but we look at things like newsround as well, really involved well, really getting involved base way, on base for kids, by the way, on things critical race things like critical race theory. a of it. theory. we've got a load of it. you know, also just had you know, we've also just had oh, and don't forget the bbc website as well. >> they running >> yes. they always running these ridiculous stories. >> okay. mean, i guess >> okay. yeah. i mean, i guess i guess it just remains and it reflects there are reflects that there are structural but structural inequalities but which inequality. they're which is the inequality. they're not actually too not that they're actually too diverse in that sense. no i think until we're in a post—racial society, this type of programming , the problem with of programming, the problem with this are we in a post—racial society means, as a society, free from racism because to

suggest the point is this, the point. the point is we're not we're not there yet. we never will. the point is not having we're not having a nuanced conversation. and actually statements like this set us back. we need to have a nuanced conversation about racism conversation about what racism does, it affects does, how it how it affects people . you know, where's the people. you know, where's the intersectionality between my race class? just saying race and my class? just saying everybody's is just all everybody's racist is just all that i don't think he's that does is i don't think he's i don't think he was trying to say that. >> i'm trying to look on the >> but i'm trying to look on the bright no, agree. bright side. but no, i agree. >> natural conclusion >> that's a natural conclusion of being around white people and saying it gives you mental health. white people. saying it gives you mental heaif1. white people. saying it gives you mental heaif1. had white people. saying it gives you mental heaif1. had said:e people. saying it gives you mental heaif1. had said it,)eople. saying it gives you mental heaif1. had said it, he's e. >> if he had said it, he's talking about journalism specific, didn't say that specific, but he didn't say that he did. >> speaking >> he was speaking out. >> he was speaking out. >> can i just say >> right. so. so can i just say so i actually used to listen to his show quite a lot because at the time day that i happened the time of day that i happened to driving around, etcetera, to be driving around, etcetera, etcetera, you etcetera, etcetera, and you could your watch could almost set your watch or set clock the kind of set your clock by the kind of topics he would discover. there would be one issue there about race. definitely be race. there would definitely be something quite left wing something really quite left wing on there usually be on it. there would usually be

some women's issue. and some kind of women's issue. and i even the good i often found that even the good news was like not news story was like not a particularly good news story. it usually had some kind of sinister behind it. this sinister intent behind it. this will about, you know, will be my view about, you know, someone not really rags someone who's not really a rags to riches story. it's more pointing the fact that they pointing out the fact that they had overcome some kind of had to overcome some kind of serious hardship serious racial hardship or something maybe something like that. maybe i've only selective of only seen a selective amount of it heard a selective amount it or heard a selective amount of but is my view. he of it, but that is my view. he is held back, is he? by his is not held back, is he? by his experience, not back, experience, he's not held back, though, in his career by what he perceives to be an overly white environment. done very environment. he's done very well. you say the well. but would you say the playing fair the beginning? >> think he probably to >> i think he probably had to try little bit harder to get try a little bit harder to get to where he is because of his race. >> but but look, look, that is thatis >> but but look, look, that is that is almost definitely true. but know people tell you but i know people tell you they'd have try harder they'd have to try harder because accent because of their accent or because of their accent or because the of their skin because the colour of their skin or because they're not. the point i'm trying to say is, yeah, his comments lead the debate down, down. >> this >> they interpret this interpretation comments, interpretation of his comments, his . that's how it his comments. that's how it could spark discussion about. could spark a discussion about. >> the way, again, i'll >> by the way, again, i'll emphasise him to

emphasise we have asked him to come i can understand why he come on. i can understand why he didn't and we've asked. we've asked him qualify various asked for him to qualify various things not. marty, you things and he's not. marty, you know, if i or you took a job in like nigeria , say, and we went like nigeria, say, and we went in there and one of us said the exact thing that he said, but we reversed that right ? yeah. i reversed that right? yeah. i don't think we you just roll on. i don't think i don't know if we'd have a job to go to the next day would be is there a double standard here? >> well, there is. there is some irony to the fact that the countries that are most the ones that have to kind of atone and hand—wring soul searching hand—wring and do soul searching and tolerate very and actually tolerate very divisive that, you divisive of language that, you know many would consider know, many people would consider racist in itself the racist in itself are the countries that tend to take the greatest steps towards promote diversity, trying to combat racism, the places where people would from around the world most want to come and live. these are the countries, the nice countries kind atone countries that kind of atone the most. countries that kind of atone the mo it's interesting . so we're >> it's interesting. so we're off to an absolute flyer this houn off to an absolute flyer this hour. thank you very, very much.

a for the bbc said we a spokesman for the bbc said we want who works at the want everyone who works at the beeb. bbc and beeb. well, they said bbc and those a career with those considering a career with us know that we are focussed us to know that we are focussed on inclusive culture us to know that we are focussed on everyone nclusive culture us to know that we are focussed on everyone feels ve culture us to know that we are focussed on everyone feels theyrlture where everyone feels they belong. now, tomorrow i'm going to bring you a big world exclusive . and yeah, i think exclusive. and yeah, i think it's exclusive. and yeah, i think wsfime exclusive. and yeah, i think it's time to maybe just let the cat out of the bag. really it is an exclusive interview with nigel farage. not so secret girlfriend laura ferrari as she opens up for the very first time ever on telly. >> i've been reading all sorts of, you know, non sensical articles about me being a secret girlfriend. i'm not secret. >> i'm here. you know i'm here. >> i'm here. you know i'm here. >> i'm here. you know i'm here. >> i work for nigel farage. >> i work for nigel farage. >> and he appointed me at these, you know, well paid. i didn't never did that. never worked for him. but i'm not saying he's he is going it. him. but i'm not saying he's he is going it . yeah. yeah. is going to do it. yeah. yeah. but would be would be a but he would be he would be a good prime minister. i would say that. >> and i think he would do a good at it. well, it was good job at it. well, it was a really, really nice interview. >> i caught up with laura

earlier today and there's a heck of a lot to at. so tomorrow of a lot to go at. so tomorrow on show , 9 to p.m, nigel on my show, 9 to 11 pm, nigel farage is girlfriend. laura ferrari reveals a side to nigel that you've never seen before and also just gives us a bit of and also just gives us a bit of an insight really. and it was a pleasure to meet up with her. so thank you very much, laura. but still to come tonight, the most entertaining pay per view you will the telly as my will get on the telly as my press pack. plus, fleet street legend kelvin mackenzie gets stuck tomorrow's stuck into tomorrow's news tonight leaders tonight as the world's leaders jet into oil rich dubai for cop 28 climate conference. are the elites in attendance the world's biggest eco and human rights hypocrites? human rights lawyer david hague hits out at the pampered politicians at the uae . pampered politicians at the uae. and that's .

weekend at 3 pm. on gb news, the people's channel. britain's news channel . now the great and news channel. now the great and the not so good of world politics and royalty are jetting into dubai today as the cop 28 climate conference kicks off with the prime minister, lord cameron and the king all in attendance. >> but the conference looks set to be overshadowed by the united arab emirates appalling record on human rights and reports that the oil rich state planned to use climate meetings. and i am not joking now they plan to use climate meetings to strike deals for its national oil and gas companies. right well, to discuss this, i am now joined by human rights lawyer david haig ,

human rights lawyer david haig, who was jailed and i will let him to go on to describe if he feels comfortable. everything that happened to him there in the united arab emirates jail. so, david, look, thank very, so, david, look, thank you very, very mean, firstly, very much. i mean, firstly, holding conference in dubai , holding the conference in dubai, is it an affront to all of those who have suffered at the hands of that i mean, at face of that regime? i mean, at face value, this is supposed to be about doing stuff that's for the good of humanity, isn't it? and you know, i would argue that maybe always do that maybe they don't always do that themselves . themselves. >> mean, i think. good >> i mean, i think. good evening, patrick. >> think when first >> i think know when i first heard it was being held heard that it was being held there, i mean, the words dracula and blood bank came into mind and, you know, obviously the experiences that had myself experiences that i've had myself in terms of, you know, i was detained there for 22 months, nine months of which was for expressing views on twitter. um and then because of , you know, i and then because of, you know, i ran a football club when i was quite well known. when i came back, lots lots and lots of back, lots and lots and lots of people their families that people in their families that were rights were suffering human rights abuses came to me and said, look, need we're look, we need help. we're suffering these terrible,

terrible speak now, terrible things as we speak now, there's they're detained there's brits. they're detained unlawfully. ryan unlawfully. people like ryan cornelius, chap called charles cornelius, a chap called charles ridley. the viewers and listeners so listeners can google them. so there are egregious human rights abuses out there daily. abuses carried out there daily. and that's not just brits. there it's americans. and it's those leaders, the leaders of the uae that do it in our country. many people remember recently a case of princess haya, who was the ruler, the wife of the ruler, fled to the brits , sorry, fled fled to the brits, sorry, fled to england in fear of her life with her children and was given one of the highest divorce settlements in in history because of the dangers she was suffering and the fact that her family had been kidnapped and these are all things that were found by our british courts against the rulers of that country. and now we see the likes of king charles lord cameron and the great and the good going there, effectively covering up those those human rights abuses. >> is it greenwashing, do you think ? think? >> i think that's exactly what it is. i mean, we're all

familiar with sportswashing and we're all familiar with the middle countries buying middle eastern countries buying our and buying our football teams and buying our football teams and buying our . now, our sports teams. now, obviously, you've got greenwashing, fairly greenwashing, which is fairly new, the new, but it's effectively the same mean, same thing. i mean, the absurdity of cop28 or any type of climate change conference being held in the country, which is one of the worst polluters , is one of the worst polluters, is one of the worst polluters, is why he's there on the screen now, sultan al jabr, who is the head of their oil company. like i said, it's like putting dracula in charge of a blood bank. >> do you not just think that there is an unbelievably unbelievable amount of hypocrisy taking place so you've got taking place here? so you've got i an oil oil state, right, i mean, an oil oil state, right, with an abominable human rights record . you've got a conference record. you've got a conference thatis record. you've got a conference that is supposed to be about tackling climate change, which we're all being led to believe is an emergency, where people from all over the world are taking private jets to oil and gas deals are allegedly being struck at it. and miraculously, they've decided to do it in a country where you cannot protest

about any of this, because if you do protest about it, goodness knows what will happen to you. i mean, this is, i think, one of the most hypocritical clown world things that i have actually ever seen. and that really is saying something. >> no, i agree with you. i agree with you completely. i mean, i've been advising privately quite a few of these groups have thought about going. they're climate i've climate groups and i've basically to look, if basically said to them, look, if you you do over you protest like you do over here, you will end up in jail. you can't even, know, the you can't even, you know, the law in the uae, basically, anyone that criticises anyone in government and that would include this conference. it's an imprisonable offence . they will imprisonable offence. they will lock you up . and the hypocrisy lock you up. and the hypocrisy is huge . you know, we're seeing is huge. you know, we're seeing the world leaders and they're effectively willing pawns in the cover of this. but cover up of all of this. but i think the problem is, patrick, it's nothing new at the moment. as we speak, there are about 30 british judges who've been sitting courts and our sitting in uae courts and our courts the same time on the courts at the same time on the payroll of both states working . payroll of both states working. so it's nothing new. we saw when

a lot of people may remember that i worked on a campaign for a lady called princess latifa while she was detained and effectively kidnapped and held hostage, as was being by hostage, as was being found by the courts to louisa may the british courts to louisa may was going to uae to head up was going to the uae to head up a women's rights conference. at the same time . so the hypocrisy the same time. so the hypocrisy is nothing new. it's just we're just now seeing it even even more of the people doing it. >> yeah, it's absolutely bonkers when really think about it. when you really think about it. i the world i mean, giving qatar the world cup all of a sudden cup and then all of a sudden hamas invades israel, there's torture, there's rape, there's murder, there's a massive terrorist attack. and then you start to see people flying into qatar and having negotiation . it qatar and having negotiation. it turns out that qatar hosts all of the leaders of hamas. and we gave that lot of world cup. we let them kind of just wash their nafion let them kind of just wash their nation there. meanwhile they've got the masterminds of the biggest kind of, you know , biggest kind of, you know, anti—semitic genocide since the holocaust taking place. it's absolutely unbelievable. look, david, thank you very, very much . it is always great to have

your insight on that country and to know maybe i've not to know that maybe i've not entirely the and that entirely lost the plot and that it bit weird and a little it is a bit weird and a little bit insane that we're having a cop, hey cop, 28 in dubai. david hey there. human expert and there. human rights expert and lawyer. coming up, former editor of sun, kelvin mackenzie of the sun, kelvin mackenzie stopped tomorrow's stopped by to tackle tomorrow's headunes headlines and deliver his verdict allegedlyworking verdict on allegedly working gp's, as well as elon musk's latest outburst. but next, tomorrow's front pages have just been delivered hot off the press. my press pack returns to get their teeth into a bombshell story is labour and david lammy taking us back into the eu? plus, i will show you sleepy joe biden's latest gaffe. he's gone nuclear back in

radio. >> welcome back. now, tomorrow i'm going to bring you a world exclusive interview with nigel farage. is not so secret. girlfriend laura ferrari . she's girlfriend laura ferrari. she's never done a television interview before and she's going to be doing it on our show tomorrow. here's a little sneak

peek i've been reading all sorts of, you know, nonsense sensical articles about me being a secret girlfriend. >> i'm a secret. >> i'm a secret. >> i'm here. you know i'm here. >> i'm here. you know i'm here. >> i'm here. you know i'm here. >> i work for nigel farage. and he appointed me. >> are these, you know, well paid? i didn't never did that. never worked for him. i'm not saying he's he is going to do it. >> yeah. yeah. but he would be. he would be a good prime minister. i would say that. and i think he would do a good job at it. >> there's lot there. it goes >> there's a lot there. it goes on for all the wrong time as well. you have about 25 minutes of very of that tomorrow, a very revealing laura revealing interview. laura ferrari absolutely ferrari there and absolutely wonderful and wonderful lady. and i think you're going enjoy you're all going to enjoy watching that. so between 9 and 11 pm. tomorrow, nigel farage, his laura ferrari, his girlfriend laura ferrari, reveals side nigel that reveals the side of nigel that you've seen before. you've never seen before. but let's tomorrow's news let's bring you tomorrow's news tonight. most tonight. now in the most entertaining paper you entertaining paper preview you will telly. will ever see on the telly. the very front pages just very first front pages have just been my press pack been delivered for my press pack . right. okay. so going in with a guardian deal. agreed at cop 28 to help poor countries cope

with climate crisis agreement on loss and damage fund reach. on the first day of the summit. this will be interesting. how much are we all going to have to pay much are we all going to have to pay for other countries? ways to deal with climate change and issues there. hamas kill three at bus stop in jerusalem and of course they pay tribute in their picture well picture story. well twice actually. shane mcgowan actually. firstly shane mcgowan remembering the trail blazing pogues singer and alistair darling as well. tributes paid for the former chancellor now we move on to the i labour eu will be our number one priority for uk foreign policy. a big picture of david lammy on there as well. that will be interesting. metro keep calm and carry on royal race crisis. what royal race crisis. they say the royals have shrugged off damaging new twists in the racism storm after, of course, the alleged royal racist were named. but then if we move over to the express , why is this over to the express, why is this an injustice to name sorry, why it is an injustice to name royals in race row. omid scobie,

the author of end game, seems determined to turn the title of his book into a reality for the royal family and we'll just finish now with the telegraph palace to look at legal action over quotes. racist royals claim we were absolutely hammering this two days ago on this show saying should they sue? scobie madeleine, i will start with you. this is, of course, your parish, the telegraph. what do you make of this front page here? big picture of charles on tour and we as a channel, of course, are not choosing to choosing not to name what choosing not to name them. what do make of the idea that do you make of the idea that maybe they should sue? >> actually >> oh, well, it's actually pretty extraordinary and surprising family surprising that the royal family would taking kind surprising that the royal family wc action taking kind surprising that the royal family wc action because king kind surprising that the royal family wcaction because traditionallyi of action because traditionally their these sorts their approach to these sorts of things never complain, things has been never complain, never explain that wonderfully cryptic statement that was issued by the queen following the initial oprah interview where it said recollections may vary . usually the way they try vary. usually the way they try to deal with these sorts of things is to wait for them to go

away and trust in the public to kind of, you know, see come around to their way of thinking. eventually for them to eventually so for them to actually go full lawyering up , actually go full lawyering up, i'm very surprised by this actually . actually. >> yeah, indeed. sean what do you think about this? do you think the palace should go on the front foot here and start start lawyering up? i think they might have to, because what you've is someone you've seen here is someone who's organised, who's deliberate, who's written a book, a lot book, who will gain a lot whatever happens. palace whatever happens. and the palace has listen, has probably thought, listen, there's a there's point where there's a there's a point where we to defend ourselves, we have to defend ourselves, because that void because if we don't, that void will with all kinds of will be filled with all kinds of false information as we false information as far as we see so, so they're going to see it. so, so they're going to go out to bat for themselves. and i think actually, in this context, they should whatever and i think actually, in this context, the'forgetting. hatever and i think actually, in this context, the'forgetting. when r everybody's forgetting. when meghan first met harry, particularly in the black community, ecstatic community, people were ecstatic about king charles in about it. and king charles in particular has not really ever had a race issue. you could you could love or hate the man, but people have never really said he could love or hate the man, but pe0|ae have never really said he could love or hate the man, but pe0|a racist never really said he could love or hate the man, but pe0|a racist orever really said he could love or hate the man, but pe0|a racist or that'eally said he could love or hate the man, but pe0|a racist or that he ly said he could love or hate the man, but pe0|a racist or that he ranaid he was a racist or that he ran a family that was racist. so the royal family are probably thinking right here, right now,

we're to take you on we're going to take you on because this the reputation. because this is the reputation. well interesting well it'll be really interesting to or not as it's to see whether or not as it's emerged tonight so the person who the who was publishing the untranslated the dutch version of end game, which of course, has caused all of this controversy, has said that those names were in there. so it wasn't a translation error as it wasn't a translation error as it was claimed. it wasn't a publishing error. it was here's the copy, here's the manuscript. i'm translated here for you. so it in there. was a fix. it was in there. it was a fix. do you think he should be made to prove it now? in court? >> i know. i just >> well, i don't know. i just find the whole thing really, really quite sad because as we know, know, ms know, you know, ms >> is basically the >> scobie is basically the sussex. by proxy. and sussex. sussex by proxy. and i've been watching the crown and it highlights the closeness between the brothers when they were little . and i think the were little. and i think the fact that it's come to this now, it's just makes you feel it's just it just makes you feel sad the whole thing. sad for the whole thing. >> interesting to see >> well, it's interesting to see the the way, on the differences by the way, on the differences by the way, on the front of the telegraph, the front page of the telegraph, obviously legal obviously talking about legal action, you don't want a action, but you don't want a family matter to end in

family matter to end up in court. well, we've got the metro as well saying keep calm and carrying on. what it's worth carrying on. for what it's worth , very surprised if the , i'd be very surprised if the royals didn't. thing i'm not royals didn't. the thing i'm not saying that they shouldn't. i just their style, is just it's not their style, is it? their style. but it it? not their style. but it shows that. it? not their style. but it shoyeah.at. it? not their style. but it shoyeah. and yeah, sorry. >> yeah. and yeah, sorry. >> yeah. and yeah, sorry. >> there might be forced. that's the issue. we live in slightly the issue. we live in a slightly different in different world. we live in a world social media. we live world of social media. we live in of reputation being in a world of reputation being maybe important than maybe even more important than it and the royals it used to be. and the royals are may decide to die. >> but why don't they just go forward and progress and put more race relations more effort into race relations and about racism ? and and learning about racism? and they have do both and they might have to do both and do things. do lots of things. >> and i think i think king charles up for that >> and i think i think king char|of up for that >> and i think i think king char|of thing. up for that >> and i think i think king char|of thing. he jp for that >> and i think i think king char|of thing. he he'sr that >> and i think i think king char|of thing. he he's shown type of thing. he he's shown himself to be. well, i think the king has been, you know, pushing organisations like the prince's trust, people from organisations like the prince's trust socioeconomic people from organisations like the prince's trust socioeconomic backgrounds poor socioeconomic backgrounds and minorities. been and ethnic minorities. it's been going decades long before going on for decades long before it a mainstream. there would it was a mainstream. there would be most politicians. be a stronger most politicians. >> very fond of the >> i'm very fond of the commonwealth always has commonwealth as well, always has been. all right. i've just got time another that's time for another one that's inside book as well. in inside of the book as well. in fact, on the of the

fact, it's on the front of the i actually will be labour's actually eu will be labour's number one priority british number one priority for british foreign policy, lammy. eu foreign policy, says lammy. eu ambassadors describe dealing with is like honey on with starmer as is like honey on toast . is with starmer as is like honey on toast. is that is that good in comparison to tory ministers? says foreign secretary david lammy. obviously coming out and saying ever closer ties with europe. maddie well, this, this doesn't surprise me. >> they've been saying things like this for, for quite some time and they've also been suggesting that just by kind of speaking to the eu in a more pleasant that they expect pleasant way, that they expect to some of greater to get some kind of greater concessions. i think that is a nonsense. whenever officials nonsense. whenever eu officials are this, they say are asked about this, they say we've smoothed over we've actually smoothed over some of the tensions were some of the tensions that were there. the windsor there. we now have the windsor framework. it's easier to deal with sunak than was with rishi sunak than it was with rishi sunak than it was with predecessors. et with his predecessors. et cetera. i think there cetera. et cetera. i think there is element of wishful is an element of wishful thinking. not thinking. or perhaps they're not being about the being entirely honest about the extent which they would extent to which they would change relationship change the relationship up. i mean, the question a security mean, the question of a security pact i just think this is pact that i just think this is this is quite ridiculous. like we don't need to take our lead from the eu the last few years

of security. been of security. we have been leading the on ukraine, leading the charge on ukraine, western in particular, western europe in particular, was sluggish. eu was very sluggish. the eu leaders very the leaders were very slow off the mark on front. meanwhile mark on that front. meanwhile negotiating things like the aukus know, it's aukus treaty, you know, it's not as an as if britain is an international pariah right now. >> i mean, let me let me read out some david lammy's out some of david lammy's quotes. european union quotes. the european union is our one priority. our number one priority. it's our number one priority. it's our one priority because our number one priority because it's our number one priority because ifs our it's our backyard. it's our number priority because number one priority because there in europe there is war in europe and because believe future because i believe our future prosperity and security is predicated relations predicated on good relations with partners. they with our european partners. they said do need get back said that we do need to get back to dialogue and to a structured dialogue and that he says, i did a meeting with keir starmer and european ambassadors , and they described ambassadors, and they described the tonal difference house as being like honey on toast, hold the stick bucket. amy yeah, but hooray, because actually this is what the public want . what the public want. >> over 60 odd percent of people have buyer's regret over brexit. >> unsurprisingly, looking at the outcome and absolute economic mess that it's caused. >> so i think this is a great move actually , and this is going move actually, and this is going to please a lot of people and

reassure a lot of people. i think i hope i'm not sure about the honey on toast thing though. >> honey on toast without the butter or just going straight. >> eurozone economies not >> eurozone economies are not fantastic moment . exactly. >> let's be clear, amy is correct. >> been absolutely compact >> it's been absolutely compact by correct. but for the by brexit. correct. but for the wrong reason. >> this is about this is about winning all right. winning an election. all right. look, quickly. all right. look, very quickly. all right. it's really no that gaffe it's really no joke. that gaffe magnet, joe biden has magnet, sleepy joe biden has access to the world's second biggest of nuclear biggest arsenal of nuclear weapons. but that didn't stop the president of the united states cracking a few light—hearted jokes about plunging the world into an apocalypse while talking to workers at a windmill factory in colorado. oh and during the blunder ridden visit, he also revealed that he thinks his political nemesis, former president trump , is currently president trump, is currently a congressman . go on, joe. it's congressman. go on, joe. it's nick. hey, nick, this is nick on. >> now, look, my marine carries that in. it has a code to blow up the world that doesn't this

is not nuclear weapons , is it? is not nuclear weapons, is it? all right. okay >> we just made these billionaires pay their taxes like everyone else . we could use like everyone else. we could use it to strengthen the social security and medicare system instead of cutting them. or like congressman trump and bob would want to do . we could use it to want to do. we could use it to help millionaires and millions of families afford instead of millionaires and millions of families afford a little help for senior care . oh it's cruel. for senior care. oh it's cruel. >> i think. i honestly think it's cruel to this guy. just anyway, whatever. let's just hope that blithering biden doesn't fumble the nuclear football . oh, gosh. you're just football. oh, gosh. you're just going to a wind farm in colorado and just walking up to a completely random bloke in hi viz and going, i'll go destroy the world. now coming up there is brexit enemy ursula von elianne, right? the next generation will reverse our eu exit. or is this more project fear? we debate it when i crowned tonight's greatest britain and union jackass. but

first, fleet street legend kelvin mackenzie gives his unfiltered verdict on tomorrow's headlines. back .

soon well, joining me now to give his irreverent take on tomorrow's newspapers is the former editor of the sun, kelvin mackenzie. kelvin thank you very much kelvin thank you very, very much to i've got the to have you on. i've got the independent and foremost independent first and foremost with is giant picture with what is a giant picture story. what on earth are they all waiting for? 2023 is now officially year on officially the hottest year on record. world leaders gathering in dubai for the latest un climate change conference already know what they must do to reverse catastrophic global warming. so today, the indian amendment demands act. now before the sun sets on our planet . but before i go to planet. but before i go to kelvin on this , i'm going to

kelvin on this, i'm going to just bring in again my panel here. do you think this is climate alarmism in a nutshell? we've got the indian pendant here with a giant picture story saying, look, you know , what are saying, look, you know, what are they all waiting for? and it looks as though the world's on fire. >> well , i fire. >> well, i think that it's very easy to have these kinds of headunes easy to have these kinds of headlines to and say in hand—wringing tones , something hand—wringing tones, something must be done without stressing , must be done without stressing, setting out exactly what that something is , what it will cost. something is, what it will cost. does the technology exist ? there does the technology exist? there are considerations are practical considerations here, seems like all we here, and it seems like all we hear the kind of greta hear is the kind of greta thunberg on this money thunberg line on this money grant successfully grant you have successfully filled needed to get filled the 30s we needed to get kelvin mackenzie locked and loaded, which means time. loaded, which means it's time. >> very much. >> kelvin, thank you very much. same to you is the same question to you is the independent out of order for saying on earth are they saying what on earth are they all do they all waiting for me? what do they actually seriously all waiting for me? what do they act|well, seriously all waiting for me? what do they act|well, mean, riously all waiting for me? what do they act|well, mean, ityusly all waiting for me? what do they act|well, mean, it doesn't >> well, i mean, it doesn't really matter what the independent says, does it? >> honest about it. >> let's be honest about it. it's it's got virtually it's it's got it's got virtually it's got no influence, got no circulation. and basically it's got no real financial future. so i no idea. i don't spend my

i have no idea. i don't spend my time worrying about what the independent thinks, nor what greta thunberg thinks. i would like to see things change, but i'd like somebody to tell me how much it's going to cost me and whether actually we can deliver any of this stuff . and, you any of this stuff. and, you know, at one stage we thought splitting the atom was the answer. now we think fusion is the answer. actually, the truth about is nobody knows about the matter is nobody knows what the answer is, but i can bet you a million dollars that the answer will be that your taxes will have to pay for a load of people who are freezing to death . that will be the next to death. that will be the next argument. do you want your neighbour to freeze death ? neighbour to freeze to death? and answer to that is yes. and the answer to that is yes. >> there go . a sad day for >> there we go. a sad day for everyone living next door to kelvin mackenzie. i'm going to go to your old parish now. kelvin the sun and they lead with wild man dies at 65 and the bells are ringing out for shane in his christmas classic fairy tale of new york is set for number one. so fans raised a

glass to shane macgowan . i mean, glass to shane macgowan. i mean, with respect to the guy, he raised a few himself, didn't he? royals brush off book row is another one. senior royals yesterday brushed off the race round that was triggered by scobie's discredited. but we are we not we are not naming the we are not we are not naming the people who are in that book. kelvin i mean, do you think piers maybe fell into ormond scobie's trap there ? scobie's trap there? >> i don't know whether whether there's always an outlier in journalism and today it turns out to be piers. journalism and today it turns out to be piers . and on another out to be piers. and on another day, it'll either be you, me or somebody like us, right. but the truth about the matter is, what i object to is that this was carefully crafted. the idea that suddenly in holland , unusually, suddenly in holland, unusually, these names happened to appear, whereas the rest of the world they didn't. but that way they got the names out and that way they got the publicity, the whole thing is a massive scam. and congratulations to this bloke prepared to use use bloke who's prepared to use use the royal family to sell to make his fortune . it's a scam. and his fortune. it's a scam. and what we should do and i agree

with gb news they shouldn't name it, but it's too late. the hares running and he will sell a lot of books on the back of it and he will make himself a lot of money. and that's what book publishing is about. it's about making money. >> yeah, he's about to be successful that, suppose. successful at that, i suppose. at least. look, kelvin, successful at that, i suppose. at lnigh look, kelvin, successful at that, i suppose. at [nigh on look, kelvin, successful at that, i suppose. at [nigh on impossible lvin, it's nigh on impossible to get a gp appointment. right. okay. but it out a conference of it turns out a conference of leaders last week voted in leaders last week they voted in favour limiting doctors to favour of limiting doctors to just 25 patients a day. currently some gps are reportedly having to cram in 50 patients a day. they want to enforce a, quote, safe limit to reduce the risk of missing serious illness. what's your verdict here, kelvin? are gp's being lazy or is it the safe opfion? >> well, the reality of course is they're prepared to take you on the telephone, in which case on the telephone, in which case on the telephone, in which case on the phone, which in fact is more risky, as has just been revealed in that report, which says that you can have sepsis or a cancer or something, which they will never diagnose. however, if i was to take my

local clinic, there flogging themselves a group of i don't know, about ten gp's are seeing people about every 5 or 6 minutes and there are you know, so i actually feel sorry for both sides of the equation here. and my other question is we've had 13 years of conservatism and we've had thousands of years of politics. it we don't politics. why is it we don't have enough doctors in our country to deal with what we know the population is going to look like? we know that the 60 million is going to become 70 million is going to become 70 million and the problems are likely to get worse. and the reality is that we are going to have to pay more taxes unless we start working harder and cleverer. you know, the reality for many sick people out there is that they are going to die because their doctors haven't got enough time to see them. you must see that yourself. but the amount of time you spend at the doctor. >> yeah , you know, i mean, i had >> yeah, you know, i mean, i had an experience recently where i had to literally chase the doctors at every single turn. thankfully, everything's fine.

the nation will be pleased to know, of course, but. but the point is, if i hadn't been fine, i quite possibly would have been dead by now. it's just dead by now. and it's just ridiculous you have do ridiculous that you have to do that single opportunity. that every single opportunity. and you think about the and it makes you think about the elderly people who in elderly or people who are in a vulnerable situation. you shouldn't you know, do shouldn't have to, you know, do do own dirty work to demand do your own dirty work to demand to the results a to see what the results of a scam were something like scam were or something like that. kelvin, final. that. but kelvin, final. >> so the question is why? why has now? why has this happened now? why literally say, literally over the last, say, 3 or including covid, why or 4 years, including covid, why have we suddenly come to this and there won't a clinic in and there won't be a clinic in the country nor a patient in the country replicate your country who won't replicate your view quickly, kelvin , view very quickly, kelvin, obviously the sun is also paying tribute. >> there's quite a few papers are to shane macgowan of the pogues fairytale of new york. and once you've dusted the ice off from around your own heart, kelvin, what's your favourite christmas song ? christmas song? >> well, i don't celebrate christmas myself, but were , are christmas myself, but were, are i were. i christmas myself, but were, are iwere. i don't christmas myself, but were, are i were. i don't mind. christmas myself, but were, are iwere. i don't mind. i don't i were. i don't mind. i don't mind that line. but but remember

in his fairytale of new york, he refers to doesn't he. and that that turned out so with stonewall or with stonewall celebrate him in that way. i don't know . anyway, he's a great don't know. anyway, he's a great talent and he's gay. but the truth about the matter is obviously i will apologise. >> now for if anyone was offended by that use of language . i know it's a very, very controversial lyric that always causes controver ac every single yeah causes controver ac every single year. kelvin mackenzie there. ladies and gentlemen . now on to ladies and gentlemen. now on to my greatest britain and union jackass. my greatest britain and union jackass . marty my greatest britain and union jackass. marty is your my greatest britain and union jackass . marty is your greatest jackass. marty is your greatest britain. >> i've gone for alistair darling because he was a very rare thing in politics. he was a politician who just kind of got on with things quietly, efficiently , wasn't massively efficiently, wasn't massively ego driven , which is quite rare ego driven, which is quite rare given that he was part of the blair government. however, he was he was a good, humble, honest , decent was he was a good, humble, honest, decent man was he was a good, humble, honest , decent man who was he was a good, humble, honest, decent man who made some very sensible decisions while in chancellor and another reason

that i'm a big fan of his was that i'm a big fan of his was that was the chair of the that he was the chair of the better campaign for the better off in campaign for the scottish independence referendum . so a big champion of the union good stuff strong start sean mind you shane macgowan notwithstanding what kelvin has just said. >> yes , because when i was >> yes, because when i was a body, when i was a security guard, i worked on his concerts and i've very rarely seen a crowd love their performance so much, really . much, really. >> yeah. and he was, he was a funny guy. and obviously he's got that really famous song, a fairy tale of new york, which tip for christmas, number one, of course. >> amy, come on. >> i've gone for rishi sunak. i'm on a minute. >> what? this is greatest. britain, not union jackass. >> think he >> yeah, because i think he needs cheering this week. needs cheering up this week. >> oh , after absolute pace >> oh, after the absolute pace beating he received at pmqs, he looked so sad and demoralised . looked so sad and demoralised. so i just want to give him a little pep. >> little morale boost. >> little morale boost. >> this today's greatest britain is shane macgowan. there we go. so well done. well done shane. right we're going rattle

right now we're going to rattle through all right. your through these. all right. your union jackass. >> maddie, a pair >> maddie, can i have a pair of them go on if you're them at once? go on if you're quick. okay. ryecroft and ridley, the two home office mandarins earlier, mandarins that we saw earlier, unable basic unable to offer the most basic details about their department top start again. >> underlining for >> sean aslef underlining for telling of this telling the young of this country should reverse country that they should reverse brexit. reverse brexit. we should reverse her brexit. we should reverse her brexit decision made by us all. >> okay, amy, we don't want any more musk for saying more elon musk for saying advertisers need to eff off and he doesn't need them. >> i think he needs them. i think he might need them for x. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> i'm not sure what. >> i'm not sure what. >> maybe. here we go. >> maybe. here we go. >> if someone's going to try to blackmail me with advertising, blackmail me with advertising, blackmail money, go blackmail me with money, go yourself . yourself. >> yeah . there we go. i actually >> yeah. there we go. i actually quite enjoyed that. i'll be honest. >> it weird, wasn't it? >> it weird, wasn't it? >> okay. the winners of union jacks tonight are those home office officials . yes. oh, of office officials. yes. oh, of course they are. so, look. thank you very, very much to everybody who's in, who's been who's been tuning in, who's been listening. you to listening. thank you to my wonderful thank to wonderful panel. thank you to all guests a little all my guests just a little reminder, your alarm clocks,

reminder, set your alarm clocks, because tomorrow's show, a very special edition. we do have a world a first ever world exclusive, a first ever television who television interview. who with nigel just not so secret nigel farage? just not so secret girlfriend ferrari , who girlfriend laura ferrari, who actually sets the world to rights and comes out and reveals the truth , contradicting quite the truth, contradicting quite a lot of things that have been written about her recently. it's a wide ranging interview. possibly we'll see nigel farage in a slightly different light as well and get to know them all a little better. make sure you little bit better. make sure you tune that. it'll big. tune in for that. it'll be big. >> outlook with boxed >> a brighter outlook with boxed solar of weather on gb solar sponsors of weather on gb news as . news as. >> good evening . welcome to your >> good evening. welcome to your latest gb news weather update from the met office. friday is going to be another dry day for many of us, but it will be feeling very cold once again with potentially some freezing fog to start and some snow showers. we've seen snow as a result of this frontal system bumping the cold air across bumping into the cold air across parts of south—west. that parts of the south—west. that will away throughout the will clear away throughout the course of the night. but it will leave with it some a risk of ice

on the roads across parts of devon and cornwall. there's also a of some ice across the a risk of some ice across the north—east of england, as well as areas of as many eastern areas of scotland a result of the snow scotland as a result of the snow showers. could also some showers. you could also see some icy across parts of icy stretches across parts of northern ireland. so it'll be another very cold start tomorrow morning. as low as morning. could be as low as minus seven, minus eight. once again. there'll also be some freezing across many freezing fog patches across many central and eastern areas. these could be quite slow to clear. they'll also be some showers starting to come in across parts of suffolk . we could see some of suffolk. we could see some sleepiness within this as well. but for many of us, it will be a dry day with some winter sunshine. but temperatures still really struggling, 2 or 3 degrees at best in many places. and then saturday is going to start on a very cold note. we could be down as low as minus double digits, some crisp sunshine to be mostly across sunshine to be had mostly across north eastern areas, this time with showers moving in from the west. these showers could fall as snow over the high ground of wales and potentially across

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gb news. >> very good evening to you. it's 11:00. i'm >> very good evening to you. it's11:00. i'm karen armstrong in the newsroom. we start with the latest from gaza. another six have been released six hostages have been released by hamas this evening, bringing the total so far today to eight. the israeli army says the latest group are on their way to group of six are on their way to hospital for medical assessment before reunited with their before being reunited with their families. two others were released earlier on thursday. it's expected that 30 more

palestinian prisoners will be released shortly from israeli jails in exchange. meanwhile, talks are ongoing in an effort to extend the truce before it expires in the coming hours. america's top diplomat says israel must protect civilian lives in gaza before it continues its military operations . antony blinken operations. antony blinken insists the immediate priority is to extend the temporary ceasefire beyond the current seven days that runs out in the early hours of tomorrow morning. and while he says the united states will continue to support israel's efforts to eliminate hamas, the loss of life in northern gaza cannot be repeated in the south. >> israel has the right to do everything it can to ensure that the slaughter hamas carried out on october 7th can never be repeated and hamas cannot remain in control of gaza. >> it cannot retain in the capacity to repeat that carnage. but as i've also said since i first came here after october

seventh, the