but will he win the war sunak but will he win the war and get it through the commons next month? it carries on, but for now, it's a quiet christmas for now, it's a quiet christmas for the pm bibby stockholm death in asylum seeker on board the barge in portland was found dead yesterday morning . yesterday morning. >> we're speaking to a human rights lawyer shortly who says it's to scrap the barge and it's time to scrap the barge and was cop 22 or 28 a car crash? >> the climate conference in dubai is drawing to a close. there is a huge fuss about the wording around fossil fuels in the new draft deal. was it all a waste of time and money? yes >> and there's a search for a missing mum. police are continuing to look for the mother of three from norwich, gaynor lord, who was seen gaynor lord, who was last seen on after noon. we're on friday after noon. we're going to have the latest on that i >> -- >> we're also going to be talking a little bit about strictly come dancing and also

we're going to show you the best meme . so a little video put meme. so a little video put together of basically rishi sunak david cameron, james cleverly and jeremy hunt. and it's really hilarious. you don't want to miss it. and in fact, it mentions the reform party and we've got richard tice in the studio in just a moment to play him the clip as well to see what he thinks. vaiews@gbnews.com is the first, he thinks. vaiews@gbnews.com is the here's first, he thinks. vaiews@gbnews.com is the here's yourfirst, he thinks. vaiews@gbnews.com is the here's your very latest though, here's your very latest news tatiana sanchez . news with tatiana sanchez. >> bev thank you very much and good morning. this is the latest from the newsroom. the prime minister may have secured a victory in house of commons victory in the house of commons last but tory rebels say last night, but tory rebels say they'll try to defeat the rwanda bill the next reading if it's bill at the next reading if it's not tightened . mps backed his not tightened. mps backed his safety of rwanda bill with a bigger than expected majority of 44 votes. rishi sunak says he'll now work on making the bill law to get flights going to rwanda and to stop the boats. but tory rebels say they want to ensure asylum seekers can be deported

to rwanda before the next election. culture media and sport secretary thangam debbonaire says the government's priorities are all wrong. >> we saw over the weekend was indicative of the weak leadership that we have from rishi sunak and the total chaos that there is in this government and moreover , the fact that they and moreover, the fact that they are concentrating on a plan that's never going to work when there are people up and down the country how country worried sick about how they're pay their bills they're going to pay their bills or a labour government. or under a labour government. with plan , we be with our plan, we will be getting processed we getting them processed and we will be sending them home. if they're supposed to here. they're not supposed to be here. but they are entitled to be but if they are entitled to be here, we want them to be able to get working and get on with working and contributing country as contributing to this country as they to do so that they can they want to do so that they can get their lives. get on with their lives. >> the delegates have agreed to move away from fossil fuels for the first time at cop the first time at the cop 28 climate talks in dubai. in a historic agreement, governments climate talks in dubai. in a hist(transitionnent, governments climate talks in dubai. in a hist(transition away governments climate talks in dubai. in a hist(transition away from nments will transition away from fossil fuels to avert the worst effects of climate change. deal of climate change. the deal calls on all countries to move away from the use of fossil fuels, but not to phase them out, something many governments

have . 8 million have wanted. 8 million households will get a cost of living payment in february to help with their bills. those who are eligible will will receive the £299 payment directly into their bank accounts without needing to make a claim between february the 6th and the 22nd. the payments, the last of three instalments that totalled £900 paid by the dwp within a year. you can get more on all of those stories by visiting our website, gbnews.com. now back to andrew and . bev and.bev >> good morning . 934 now relief >> good morning. 934 now relief for rishi sunak or at least temporary relief. the prime minister secured a victory in the house of commons last night with mps backing his safety of rwanda bill with a majority of 44 votes. >> so he took to twitter to celebrate and said the british people should decide who gets to come to this country , not

come to this country, not criminal gangs or foreign courts. that's what this bill delivers . delivers. >> he goes on, he says, we'll now work to make it law. >> so we can get flights going to rwanda and stop the boats. >> but this issue is far from oven >> but this issue is far from over. despite voting to support the bill, former immigration minister green told gb minister damian green told gb news always his news he could always rescind his backing a later date. backing at a later date. >> any amendments that actually cuts away at basic human rights us that breaks our international obugafion us that breaks our international obligation sessions, breaks treaties that we set up the signed ed are wrong because cause it ruins british britain's international relations and means that we can't sign treaties with anyone else. so things like the treaty with albania, which has allowed us to get thousands of people not coming here, the number of albanians coming here has massively reduced those sort of treaties . we won't be able to treaties. we won't be able to sign if we get a reputation for reneging on our international obugafions. obligations. >> this is one of those situations when you're looking

at politicians, andrew, and you just thinking, has the world gone completely mad because they're still feels like there's so many hurdles that have to be got over and then we still don't know if rwanda is going to be a deterrent to people. >> and it's now cost, i think, £280 million. rishi sunak says the tory party is a broad church. it's more like five cathedrals put together, isn't it? i mean, because the differences, the disagreements are marked between them. what are so marked between them. what i think was really significant about last night, 29 about the vote last night, 29 tory mps abstained . if 29 had tory mps abstained. if 29 had voted against bill done defeated and what would that have meant for rishi sunak that's the question, isn't it? i think his authority would be crushed. there would be there would have been a confidence vote today, which they would win, of course, but i think we'd have probably had an election by march. >> you wonder then, do you think with those mps that abstained, it like cates, it was people like miriam cates, suella those who suella braverman, those who would to on would be considered to be on the right the party, whatever right of the party, whatever that i'm not sure that means anymore? i'm not sure that means anymore? i'm not sure that those old fashioned

definitions left right definitions of left and right mean anything do you mean anything anymore. do you think abstained so that think they abstained so that they didn't cause that of they didn't cause that sort of earthquake party? earthquake within the party? they don't want to get into trouble their local trouble with their local conservative for conservative association for potentially a general potentially triggering a general election, are some of election, but they are some of those are just not ever going to be reconciled to this bill. >> and don't forget, in there, who abstained, mark francois of the european research group, one of the spartans on the brexit the european research group, one of th said artans on the brexit the european research group, one of th said they'rein the brexit the european research group, one of th said they're not1e brexit the european research group, one of th said they're not goingtit bill, said they're not going to back and i know you can back down and ed, i know you can hear us number 10, because before move on, just before we move on, let us just show you little picture here. >> this was taken by our very own olivia utley. that is number 10. and on the screen there, thatis 10. and on the screen there, that is gb news. so good morning to you all. nice to know you're listening . listening. >> and because they know in number 10, they're going to get punchier more lively. interesting they punchier more lively. inte if sting they punchier more lively. inteif they're they punchier more lively. inteif they're listening they punchier more lively. inteif they're listening to they punchier more lively. inteif they're listening to thei are if they're listening to the state funded broadcaster, which is well,i state funded broadcaster, which is well, i like think we're >> well, i like to think we're giving offering them a little bit advice. i think what we bit of advice. i think what we can on the clip there, that can see on the clip there, that was the weather forecast. yeah, exactly we're by exactly right. we're joined by political christopher

exactly right. we're joined by political downingtopher exactly right. we're joined by political downing street. good hope from downing street. good morning, know morning, chris. i don't know whether news on in whether you've got gb news on in the background behind there the background behind you there at street huge vote at downing street at huge vote last night. >> what is the see, i i was >> what is the see, i was i was just trying to i was trying to see bev and andrew if it's still on in that window. i couldn't quite see from my position here. >> i'm sure it is. i'm sure it is.— >> i'm sure it is. i'm sure it is. but what is the fallout been from this huge event in the house commons about 7:00 last house of commons about 7:00 last night ? night? >> yeah. the party is licking its wounds today. i mean , the its wounds today. i mean, the efforts by the right to try and make a big noise on monday with that with that review by the european research group of tory mps came nothing. i always mps came to nothing. i always thought that by declaring their hands early hands so early on this legislation that was an opening gambit a negotiation and the gambit in a negotiation and the result of that negotiation was the government. mr sunak, the prime minister, said he would harden up the legislation to make it try and bring in new ways to disregard elements of human rights legislation to move further away from the european

court of human rights jurisdiction . in the risk there, jurisdiction. in the risk there, though, as you have heard from damian green earlier on, gb news, is that you can you'll lose the support of the left. the left are very worried about being anywhere further away from the echr. so it's a very narrow tightrope around torfaen down, which mr sunak is walking. he will he was out last night at the 1922 committee's reception when he made a joke about warring families at christmas . warring families at christmas. he was very relaxed. he gave his home secretary, james cleverly, a big hug when he won the vote. and so i think he's feeling quite chipper right now because he should do because 44 majority is a lot . but as you he should do because 44 majority is a lot. but as you both correctly say, there, 29 mps, a defied correctly say, there, 29 mps, a defied the government by voting to by not voting at all for the legislation charleton that is the number required to defeat it now. but it's such a tight number. i think the whips will spend the next few weeks into this big report stage when it's looked at as a committee when they'll try and pick off those rebels one one. so it

rebels slowly one by one. so it looks like i think it's now most likely to get through the house of commons and the lords will look at the majority of second reading and feel they can't really amend it. so there's now more likelihood this will be on the statute book by march, april. cleverly the april. and they mr cleverly the home did today home secretary did say today on in round that he says it's in a tv round that he says it's credible to say the first flights will take off the flights will take off in the spring, and we'll spring, in may and then we'll see. bev to your question whether it's going to work or not, know yet. the not, we don't know yet. the government hopes it government certainly hopes it will. was originally to will. the idea was originally to take a few young men who arrive here over channel here illegally over the channel back rwanda. well we'll see back to rwanda. well we'll see if it's going to work. we'll know pretty soon. and if that can break the business model, then that's than labour then that's more than labour will then that's more than labour wiliall right. that's chris hope, >> all right. that's chris hope, our in our political editor in westminster . we're with richard westminster. we're with richard tice, leader of reform uk . i tice, leader of reform uk. i think to get think it's going to get marbleised in the comments. what an absolute farce this whole show has been . show has been. >> i mean, one journalist said they marched themselves up they all marched themselves up to the top of the hill, grandstanding and then they marched themselves down the hill

with around their with their pants around their ankles. actually ankles. and i think actually that's exactly happened. that's exactly what's happened. the has been the whole thing has been a complete self—inflicted implosion the governing implosion by the governing party. total waste of time taking the population for fools , taking the population for fools, because the reality is the only thing that we know is that we've committed to send them just under £300 million. the only thing we know is that i disagree with chris hope there. i don't think it will be on the statute book by march. i think that's very unlikely. even if it was, you know, that there's going to be by human rights be claims by human rights lawyers on behalf of individual asylum seekers, the chances of any flights taking off is deeply remote and even then, as we know from a gb news exclusive report in northern france, it's not a deterrent anyway. the whole thing is a complete that it's a dead cat distraction from the reality. this will not stop the boats. and that's what the british people want. >> and we haven't even talked about the supreme court. it's a supreme court going to get involved again. is the european court involved?

court going to get involved? >> they'll all get involved. they want their pennies they all want their pennies worth. will even worth. the lawyers will get even ficher worth. the lawyers will get even richer and boats will keep richer and the boats will keep coming. the line. coming. that is the bottom line. and i think the and that's why i think the british people will just british people will be just bored sick of all these bored and sick of all these shenanigans going on in westminster. these people so out of . mean, damian of touch. i mean, dear damian green talking there about international treaties . what international treaties. what about focusing on british citizens who are deeply concerned about the cost, the impact on their communities? why didn't you focus on us rather than international treaties? >> and he's an mp in kent where there is a huge impact on the local on local services, housing, schools , the nhs. housing, schools, the nhs. >> it's i just think it's extraordinary and i think they are utterly , utterly deluded as are utterly, utterly deluded as to where they are compared to where the british people are. >> but when you say it's a disgrace action, is it a distraction that rishi sunak would want? at the moment, yes, it is, because he's got he hasn't got the guts do the hasn't got the guts to do the only thing that we know works here. >> it's what australia did . >> it's what australia did. you've got to either push back

or up and take back. that or pick up and take back. that is policy. we're the only is our policy. we're the only party that policy. party with that clear policy. it's policy of courage, of it's a policy of courage, of leadership will work. it leadership that will work. it worked in australia and when you do it here on the english channel do it here on the english channel, you then say to all of the eu leaders in the mediterranean, that's what you do to them coming over from do to stop them coming over from nonh do to stop them coming over from north . then of north africa. and then all of a sudden business model is sudden the business model is finished. stops within a finished. it stops within a fortnight. >> you stop, though, >> how do you stop, though, richard ? over 1.2 million people richard? over 1.2 million people coming here every year legally? >> well, that's a whole that's a whole different ball game. so i'm very clear. one in, one out. you've got to have smart immigration, not mass immigration, not mass immigration, which we've currently got under the main two parties. and you need high skilled, high qualified people. at the moment, we've basically got complete open season , open got complete open season, open borders, deliberately put in place by this government. after we left the european union in complete betrayal of what they promised us. prime minister after conservative prime minister throughout the last 13

years has promised to bring the numbers down and has deliberately done exactly the opposite because and this latest plan, they came up with their five point plan. they love a five point plan. they love a five point plan last monday, which is sort of almost been forgotten about. will create a surge of more immigration because it's not going to come in until april, may i quite. >> but when you say that they've done the opposite, that they promised, is that simply because of this clunky means of assessing the value a nation assessing the value of a nation on this idea that if you on gdp and this idea that if you have immigration, your gdp, your productivity and your profit for your will up. your country will will go up. but what we hear but i think what what we hear and what most people feel is, well, might look well, that might look good on papen well, that might look good on paper, my life is harder. i paper, but my life is harder. i can't get an appointment at the nhs and i can't find a school place for my children and the roads are packed and it just feels there are too many people here. >> there's two issues. if you promise two people that you're going to bring numbers down going to bring the numbers down and do deliberately the and then you do deliberately the opposite, you've lied opposite, then you've lied to the people. point. the people. your gdp point. that's the treasury argument .

that's the treasury argument. well, very well, well, it's not going very well, is mean, economy is at is it? i mean, the economy is at best flatlining at worst. we've just figures this just heard figures out this morning october, gone down. morning in october, gone down. so if you add a million people and you're flat lining, guess what? mathematically, we're all poorer. we're all financially poorer. we're all financially poorer as well as culturally poon >> so you mean so make that case and don't be afraid to make that case. absolutely one of the questions, of course, is how the conservative party gets taken seriously in the run up to the next election they next election because they are at look a at the moment, they look a little chaotic and a bit of a joke. one particular news website with the website agreed with the idea that conservatives look that the conservatives look a bit and they they put bit of a joke and they they put this together just for you, richard, for staying out tories , if you've staying out tories, if you've got to go away and defect to

reform uk , won't you stay till reform uk, won't you stay till polling day ? polling day? >> stay now if you're listening on the radio, is that going to be your election broadcast? >> oh, i think that's absolutely brilliant. >> i didn't know that. that's hysterical. >> so it's a spoof of an east 17 video. if you're listening on the radio. apologies. we should have voiceover that james cleverly, jeremy hunt , rishi cleverly, jeremy hunt, rishi sunak, david and david cameron. cameron's the one i always forget because he's not apparently he shouldn't have beenin apparently he shouldn't have been in the government. i know exactly, but it's brilliant. that's just. they've a that's just. they've done a brilliant that's just. they've done a brilhysterical. >> hysterical. >> hysterical. >> well, find out who's >> well, i must find out who's doneit >> well, i must find out who's done it and maybe we need to employ i mean, they're fantastic. >> satire be the death >> and satire can be the death of politicians. if you think about how devastating spitting image politicians in image was to some politicians in the and 90s. the 80s and 90s. >> right. but look, >> absolutely right. but look, it everything. is it says everything. this is a party that's been in charge for 13 years. no one feels better off. no one feels safer on the streets. reality. and streets. that's the reality. and look, want any government look, people want any government to well on their behalf. but

to do well on their behalf. but if life gets tougher, the quality of life is you were just touching on gets worse. it's harder to get get housing to rent or to buy. it's harder to see a doctor to get an operation done. everyone feels we're being let i agree with all that, richard. >> but you know what? the tories are going to say. you vote for richard reform you let richard tice reform uk. you let the party in. the labour party in. >> my response is simple there are the same coin are two sides of the same coin of of high taxes and of socialism of high taxes and high regulation. more immigration pro zero. and we're seeing the results. zero growth. >> so you mean it doesn't m atter? >> matter? >> it makes no difference between the two. if you want socialism, vote for those two. if you want growth and if you want a chance of saving britain and rescuing us from the dire straits we're in, you've got to look elsewhere. my argument is you've got to look reform uk you've got to look at reform uk a year ago, reform uk would not have featured in a bit of satirical like that. have featured in a bit of satithat like that. have featured in a bit of satithat just like that. have featured in a bit of satithat just shows; that. have featured in a bit of satithat just shows howt. have featured in a bit of satithat just shows how far you >> that just shows how far you and party have come the and the party have come in the last as well, doesn't it? last year as well, doesn't it? and do you that up in and how do you ramp that up in the next six months, perhaps to

the next six months, perhaps to the next six months, perhaps to the next election? >> job of work. >> yeah, that's the job of work. that's what we've working that's what we've been working out christmas turkey. out over the christmas turkey. >> were talking to mr >> when you were talking to mr farage well, i mean, farage about that, well, i mean, he's i think, he's landing, i think, imminently any moment. he's the president. he? president. is he? >> the honorary president. >> he's the honorary president. i may be rushing i mean, he may well be rushing in studio to give his latest in the studio to give his latest thoughts. when thoughts. i mean, when i interviewed on monday interviewed him on monday evening, came evening, goodness me, he came straight of the blocks. straight out of the blocks. there was time for small there was no time for small talk. was i mean, i knew he'd talk. he was i mean, i knew he'd be cross by what's gone on in the and he's the last four weeks. and he's you tell he's absolutely you could tell he's absolutely furious because it. oh, furious because of it. oh, i think apart from cameron coming back, the immigration bit. back, it's the immigration bit. both illegal. the both lawful and illegal. the complete collapse all the complete collapse of all the promises. stood complete collapse of all the prorforas. stood complete collapse of all the prorfor give stood complete collapse of all the prorfor give take stood complete collapse of all the prorfor give take 20 stood complete collapse of all the prorfor give take 20 years for, for give or take 20 years he's seen this. he's predicted it. he's forecast it. yeah. he didn't right, but didn't want to be right, but sadly, right. and he's sadly, he is right. and he's very, very angry about it because this has been deliberate by the governing class . he could by the governing class. he could sense it happening . and the sense it happening. and the thing is, all of this can be stopped. it can all be turned around. it could all be changed. but you've got to actually you've got to vote for it. and

you've got to vote for it. and you've got to have the courage to do it. leadership is about courage, we're not seeing courage, and we're not seeing that the two main parties that in the two main parties that in the two main parties that case to the people. that is our case to the people. >> okay. thanks, richard. that is our case to the people. >> we're thanks, richard. that is our case to the people. >> we're thanks,to chard. that is our case to the people. >> we're thanks,to another >> we're talking to another of your actually, by your colleagues, actually, by the adrian begum, the way, little adrian begum, ann but we're ann widdecombe. but we're talking dancer. talking fantastic dancer. >> a great one to talk >> she'll be a great one to talk about music. about the music. >> going to talk to >> and we're going to talk to you strictly, so you about strictly, too. so don't miss that. >> now, asylum seeker died on >> now, an asylum seeker died on board the bibby stockholm barge. dorset received dorset police said they received the a sudden death of the report of a sudden death of a resident on the bibby stockholm on tuesday morning. >> secretary, >> the home secretary, james cleverly >> the home secretary, james cleinvestigated fully. we're be investigated fully. we're going to talk now to david haye, the lawyer. the human rights lawyer. david, good morning. >> good morning. morning to both. >> so the human rights industry has clicked into gear has already clicked into gear saying we knew this would happen. wicked. these happen. it's wicked. these people kept in people should not be kept in such conditions. that's such inhumane conditions. that's palpable it? palpable nonsense, isn't it? >> i think i think i think you're right. certainly at the moment we need to work out exactly what happened. i mean, we've had the unofficial reports of what happened. know, of what happened. and, you know, as as it would be to as as easy as it would be to blame policy blame the government's policy for death , i think

for causing the death, i think we need to work out the exact facts. moment. you can't facts. at the moment. you can't blame everything as blame them for everything as much would like. and you much as we would like. and you know, i think, you know, from my perspective from human perspective from from a human rights but rights perspective, but also from i think from an economic one, i think the stockholm, you know, the bibby stockholm, you know, is a white elephant should the bibby stockholm, you know, is iclosed. elephant should the bibby stockholm, you know, is iclosed. e|think1t should the bibby stockholm, you know, is iclosed. e|think it's should the bibby stockholm, you know, is iclosed. e|think it's overlled be closed. i think it's overly expensive. you know, just expensive. and you know, just from perspective you from that perspective and you know, i remember a while ago i looked figures of how looked at the figures of how much costing to put people much it's costing to put people there, and you could actually send them a round the world send them on a round the world cruise pretty the same cruise pretty much the same price know, price in terms of, you know, a general commercial liner. general commercial cruise liner. so should be closed so i think it should be closed for economical reasons. but also i for practical and i think the for practical and human reasons as well. human rights reasons as well. but i don't think we can blame the just yet. the government just yet. >> obviously been >> david, obviously we've been discussing the rwanda vote going through last through in the comments last night what happens now, in your night. what happens now, in your opinion? bring your expertise to this situation ? what's the best this situation? what's the best case scenario ? so for the boats case scenario? so for the boats to stop . i mean, i don't think to stop. i mean, i don't think i agree with almost everything that richard tice said.

>> i mean, i don't see that this is a way that's going to stop the boats, you know, and i think one of the things that is definitely going to happen is that you're going to have lot that you're going to have a lot of there's a couple of of i mean, there's a couple of words that have become going to become very important if the legislation in its legislation passes in its current that's these current form. and that's these words and words called serious and irreparable harm. and that's the loophole currently exists loophole that's currently exists in that would in the legislation that would allow challenges to go allow court challenges to go forward . so those words, if they forward. so those words, if they stay , will become very stay, will become very important. there'll be a lot of lawyers, know, probably lawyers, you know, probably booking over christmas booking porsches over christmas because making lot because they'll be making a lot of words, unless of money on those words, unless that's up. so i can that's tied up. so i can understand , you like understand, you know, like i said, human rights said, from a human rights perspective, don't think the perspective, i don't think the policy go through. policy should go through. but i can why the likes of can understand why the likes of mark and the mark francois and many in the party would be very angry with the language because it the current language because it will not stop the boats so and so. 50. >> so. >> are you saying that the government to government should tighten up to the where appeals are the point where no appeals are allowed once a deportation is agreed that because that's what that's what mark francois and the tory. right. one wouldn't.

yeah yeah. >> from my perspective, i wouldn't do that. i think the policy should be scrapped. i think it's a white elephant or waste, from waste, you know, even from again, from the economical perspective, it perspective, i just think it should scrapped and they should be scrapped and they should be scrapped and they should on things that will should focus on things that will actually the actually work. but from the perspective likes of mark perspective of the likes of mark francois, i can understand why they're angry because they're very, very angry because they're very, very angry because the their the point from their perspective, pointless. perspective, this is pointless. it boats. it will not stop the boats. there court challenges there will be court challenges with this current wording. definitely court definitely there will be court challenges you know, if you challenges. and you know, if you look, for instance, the look, for instance, at the moment, you've got of moment, you've got lots of extradition treaties around the world. an extradition world. you've got an extradition treaty tony blair's treaty that tony blair's government the uae, government put in with the uae, which presumably the time which presumably at the time back think 2006, we back in, i think it was 2006, we thought that that was a safe country. no one has been extradited that treaty extradited under that treaty because challenges over because of court challenges over human you look human rights. so if you look at similar you know, similar situations, you know, you will get court challenges under this language that will you will get court challenges unde peopleanguage that will you will get court challenges unde people going|e that will you will get court challenges unde people going to that will you will get court challenges undepeople going to rwanda. stop people going to rwanda. >> and what sort of basis , >> and what sort of basis, david, on what sort of basis might they make such a claim ? might they make such a claim? >> well, i think, you know, that will come down to the interpretation of those words

serious and irreparable harm. what does that mean? and that's where the judges will come in and then you will get evidence as to what that means. so, you know, as a extreme example, if you if one of people you were if one of the people coming across argue that coming across could argue that they a member of the their they are a member of the their family a member of the family or as a member of the opposition of the president of rwanda and their life would be immediately at risk, that would be an example. i think that would easily, you know, would be easily, you know, would qualify. then also you've qualify. but then also you've got stage where when you got this stage where when you bnng got this stage where when you bring like mental bring in things like mental health you bring in health and when you bring in thb and i can just thb rights and i can just imagine so many potential ways , imagine so many potential ways, at least to start a good argument about whether or not they go forward. and that's that's the thing. it opens the gates to court. so i can fully understand people want understand why people that want to for courts to to close the route for courts to get involved completely be get involved completely would be very with this very unhappy with this legislation because it will not do that. >> fascinating david, hey, >> okay. fascinating david, hey, thank you so much, as always . thank you so much, as always. >> we just need to read this. >> we just need to read this. >> we just to read this >> we just need to read this statement. yes, we do. sorry. this is about the asylum seeker

who his life. home who lost his life. the home office said is office have said this is a tragic incident and our thoughts are everyone the are with everyone affected, the welfare those in our welfare of all of those in our care is of the utmost importance and take our responsibility and we take our responsibility for well—being incredibly for their well—being incredibly seriously. will be seriously. this will now be investigated and investigated by the police and the is right that the coroner. it is right that the coroner. it is right that the facts circumstances the facts and circumstances surrounding this death are established . it will established. it will be investigated the police and investigated by the police and the etcetera . the coroner, etcetera. >> just very briefly, richard, a former lord chief justice is saying they should these sciences should be allowed one appeal and one appeal only one word agreed . word agreed. >> maximum. that's it. >> maximum. that's it. >> that's your word. that's what you're richard, great you're allowed. richard, great to right. still to to see you. all right. still to come morning, harry and come this morning, harry and meghan hollywood's meghan are hollywood's biggest losers archewell foundation losers. the archewell foundation has lost almost £9 million in revenue. we'll be discussing that. it's britain's newsroom on gb news. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar, the sponsors of whether on . gb news. on. gb news. >> good morning. welcome to your latest gb news weather update

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gb news. >> it's 10:00 gb news. >> it's10:00 on gb news. >> it's 10:00 on wednesday, the >> it's10:00 on wednesday, the 13th of december. this is the britain's newsroom on gb news. with me, bev turner and andrew pierce, relief for rishi. >> the prime minister secured a bigger victory than expected last tory mps last night, but 29 tory mps abstained voting on that abstained from voting on that rwanda our politico rwanda deal. our politico political correspondent olivia utley . utley has the latest. >> yeah, rishi sunak lives to fight another day, but the can has really just been kicked down the road. come the new year, sunak will have to be have to

face his problems all over again and the result might not be so rosy . rosy. >> and was cop 28 a complete waste of time? the climate conference in dubai is drawing to a close . there is a huge fuss to a close. there is a huge fuss around the wording about fossil fuels and whether they should be phased out in a new draft deal. do you think it was all a waste of time and money? an offensive and embarrassing? >> that's the verdict of former bbc executive danny cohen about what gary lineker and he says it's what gary lineker and he says wsfime what gary lineker and he says it's time for the bbc to part ways with the insolent sports commentator after his latest bout of political tweets . and bout of political tweets. and they call it puppy love, it turns out we're becoming more concerned with buying pets. >> our presents for our pets, rather than friends and family. this christmas . are you one of them? >> and royal funding flop. the duke and duchess of sussex. they've been dubbed among the biggest losers of 2023 as their archewell foundation . that's

archewell foundation. that's their charity, faces a nearly £9 million drop in revenue . million drop in revenue. and the hollywood reporter magazine, the bible for hollywood type, says they are the biggest losers in 2023 because all going star has fallen so fast, so quickly going badly wrong for them, isn't it? >> if they can't generate the money for their charity, then what's the point of them? let us know your thoughts. gb views us at gbnews.com is email at gbnews.com is the email address lots still to address for lots more still to come morning between now come this morning between now and midday. course, it's and midday. and of course, it's pmqs well. so we're pmqs today as well. so we're going to be building up to that. first, your very latest first, though, your very latest news tatiana sanchez . news with tatiana sanchez. >> beth, thank you very much. and good morning. your top stories from the gp newsroom. tory rebels have warned they will vote against the draft rwanda when it returns to rwanda law when it returns to the commons in the new year unless amended . mps backed unless it's amended. mps backed the bill with a majority of 44.

no tory member voted against it, but 38 abstained. which is enough to vote the legislation down at the next reading. the prime minister says he'll now work on making the asylum bill law to get flights going and to stop the boats. rebels say they want to ensure asylum seekers can be deported to rwanda before the next election . culture, the next election. culture, media and sport secretary thangam debbonaire says the government's priority parties are all wrong . are all wrong. >> we saw over the weekend was indicative of the weak leadership that we have from rishi sunak and the total chaos that there is in this government and moreover the fact that they are concentrating on a plan that's never going to work when there up and down the there are people up and down the country worried about how country worried sick about how they're to pay their bills they're going to pay their bills under a labour government with our will be getting our plan, we will be getting them and we will be them processed and we will be sending they're not sending them home if they're not supposed here. but they supposed to be here. but if they are entitled to be here, want are entitled to be here, we want them to get on with them to be able to get on with working and contributing to this country want do country as they want to do so that get on with their

lives. >> the uk economy has seen a surprise decline, according to the for national the office for national statistics , size the statistics, the size of the economy contracted in october, according an early official according to an early official estimate that showed a fall of 0.3. the ons says poor weather contributed to the decline in output . economists had expected output. economists had expected a flat performance following on from the nought point 2% growth seen in september. the chancellor jeremy seen in september. the chancellorjeremy hunt remained chancellor jeremy hunt remained optimistic, though, saying the reductions in business taxation announced in the autumn statement put the economy in a good space to start growing again . 8 million households will again. 8 million households will get a cost of living payment in february to help with their bills. those who are eligible will receive the £299 payment directly into their bank account without needing to make a claim between february the 6th and the 22nd.the between february the 6th and the 22nd. the payment is the last of three instalments that totalled £900 paid by the department of work and pensions. within a year

, delegate gates have agreed to move away from fossil fuels for the first time at the cop 28 summit in dubai. in a historic agreement, governments will transition away from fossil fuels to avert the worst effects of climate change, but not phase them out . the deal recognises them out. the deal recognises them out. the deal recognises the need to avoid temperatures rising by 1.5 degrees. meanwhile climate columnist at the independent donnacha mccarthy called out government hypocrisy . called out government hypocrisy. >> i think the real hypocrisy is actually the government's position on flying, period. their response to this issue yesterday was the government doesn't care about flying . well, doesn't care about flying. well, we absolutely must care about flying because the carbon emissions are staggering. the three private jets that the government prime minister and the two ministers took to the opening of , they would take a opening of, they would take a working class family , 140 years working class family, 140 years of turning off all their electricity to make up the pollution from it . pollution from it. >> the uk is unprepared for a

ransomware attack amid a lack of government investment , ransomware attack amid a lack of government investment, according to a new report . parliament's to a new report. parliament's joint committee on the national security strategy says the uk could be brought to a standstill at any time unless major changes to planning and preparation are made . and ransomware is a form made. and ransomware is a form of cyber attack and has been used in high scale digital incidents in the country, such as on the nhs. in 2017. the report says the uk's regulatory frameworks are insufficient and outdated . ministers are unable outdated. ministers are unable to prove that billions of pounds on procure payment was spent wisely, according to a cross—party group of mps. wisely, according to a cross—party group of mps . the cross—party group of mps. the government has not been able to demonstrate that taxpayers were getting for value money from the £259 billion spent on public procurement in 2021 and 22. in a report published today, the house of commons public accounts committee blamed the poor quality of published data on government contracts . it also government contracts. it also said departments were not doing enough to secure competition for

contracts. it was robust, resulting in taxpayers money being wasted . and emmy award being wasted. and emmy award winning us actor andre bauer has died at the age of 61. the two time emmy winner was best known for starring in homicide and as captain raymond holt in the us sitcom brooklyn nine—nine. brouwer died on monday after a brief illness . during his brief illness. during his career, he was nominated for 11 emmy awards . this is gb news emmy awards. this is gb news across the uk on tv , in your across the uk on tv, in your car, on digital radio, and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news now back to andrew and . bev and.bev >> you'll be getting in touch at home. thank you so much. vaiews@gbnews.com is the email. sue has said this is a waste of time and money. she's talking about the rwanda situation and whether we're going to get

anybody on any planes and it has cost nearly 300 million. >> eleanor says. i wonder why we as an independent country can't copy the democratic system of switzerland who have multiple referendums every year when a policy will affect its people. they people their they ask the people in their entirety, select entirety, rather than a select number who don't always number of mps who don't always vote per their constituents views. >> it's a really interesting topic there's quite a lot topic that there's quite a lot of chatter going around at the moment, particularly moment, kind of particularly online, about we should online, about whether we should have regular power in the have more regular power in the hands of people, a kind of decentralised political system giving you know, giving the power to you know, i can't see that ever happening because anybody in because why would anybody in power give more to at home? power give more to you at home? that work for them. that doesn't work for them. >> politicians never want to >> and politicians never want to give up power. >> absolutely. and damian says, i should i think boris and farage should join they would get join together. they would get the uk sorted . the uk sorted. >> yeah. and graham says the great has been taken out of this. countries, everyone is laughing us and baba said i'm laughing at us and baba said i'm still not heard how rishi is proposing to board the illegal immigrants these to immigrants onto these planes to rwanda, of rwanda, loading hundreds of people get on people who don't want to get on

board is going to be impossible unless he has visions of the film. >> con air where they're forced into con for into their seats. con for conservative. it really conservative. maybe it really isn't conservative. maybe it really isnt happen conservative. maybe it really isn't happen right? conservative. maybe it really isn'anyway happen right? conservative. maybe it really isn'anyway . happen right? conservative. maybe it really isn'anyway . wellpen right? conservative. maybe it really isn'anyway . well then ght? conservative. maybe it really isn'anyway . well then keep, keep, >> anyway. well then keep, keep, keep those views coming in. now, the know , the prime minister, as you know, secured comfortable secured a more comfortable victory commons than was victory in the commons than was expected a majority of 44 expected of a majority of 44 backing the safety of rwanda bill. we're joined now by our political correspondent olivia utley olivia . of course, the utley olivia. of course, the real problem is what happens next as early as january or february , there could be february, there could be wrecking amendments which could completely . bill completely derail the. bill >> well, absolutely. this is a stay of execution for rishi sunak, but he is far from off the hook . those 29 right wing the hook. those 29 right wing mps who chose to abstain rather than vote against the bill are saying that if in the new year the bill remains unamended, they will vote it down at that stage and as we know it would take exactly 29 conservative mps voting down the bill for it to lose in parliament. but it's

assumed that those mps were given some sort of assurance by rishi sunak that the bill would be tweaked in some way to toughen it up a bit, be tweaked in some way to toughen it up a bit , to make toughen it up a bit, to make sure that there aren't too many migrants getting through the getting a loophole around the system with mitigating circumstances . but of course, circumstances. but of course, the further rishi sunak moves to toughen up the bill, the more likely it is that those one nafion likely it is that those one nation mps, conservative mps on the left of the party, start to say, well, hang on a minute, we're diverging too far away from international human rights law now, and they choose to vote it down. so rishi sunaks walking a pretty tight tightrope up here. and of course, that's before we even get get talking about the house of lords. even if rishi sunak does manage to get it through the house of commons in the new year and that's a pretty big if, it will then go over to the house of lords. and as we know, the house of lords is much more left leaning than the house of commons. only a third of peers are actually conservative. so it's very likely what

it's very likely that what happensin it's very likely that what happens in the is the bill happens in the lords is the bill gets amended then gets massive, amended and then sent back to commons in sent back to the commons in what's known as parliamentary ping what's known as parliamentary ping it again , sent ping pong. amend it again, sent back lords. this could back to the lords. this could take months and months and months and by the end of it the bill could be completely unrecognisable to the that unrecognisable to the one that rishi sunak put on the table yesterday. indeed that's olivia utley political utley our political correspondent in westminster. >> we're delighted say join >> we're delighted to say join us studio for the first us in the studio for the first time is the barrister and columnist perspective. columnist for perspective. sam. sam sam is this scheme sam follows sam is this scheme rwanda? is it doomed in its current form? i think it was inevitably doomed. >> and in a way you can really give rishi sunak credit because he's united the entire country on one thing, which is we all agree this isn't going to work. >> i'm not sure i agree, but the i think more than that is in choosing this hill to die on a really, really unrealistic , really, really unrealistic, unrealistic scheme, as is hill to die on. >> he is man firstly harming our politics, asking parliament to

legislate a lie is unprecedented and you know, i hate to throw around the word orwellian, but we are in orwellian territory here. when you're saying to the people and to the court that you have to pretend that something's true, that isn't because we, the people in power, say you do, which bit isn't true , that which bit isn't true, that rwanda the and i was rwanda is safe. the and i was i've been i've been talking to mps for the for the last two days about this . and i was days about this. and i was saying, all right, they're asking you rule and make law asking you to rule and make law saying that we're under a safe. what evidence have they given you for that to prove that? and no one had seen anything. >> do you mean safe for everybody? safe for anybody ? everybody? safe for anybody? dodi. i mean , listen, i know dodi. i mean, listen, i know this is flawed, but i still have faith that enough checks and balances have been done by the number of politicians who've gone over there to set up this system to know that there is a quality of life to be had in rwanda . whether it works as rwanda. whether it works as a deterrent, i don't know. but who would be at risk?

>> well, anyone. anyone that goes to rwanda and opposes the government, that's lgbt, government, anyone that's lgbt, anyone that were under might send back to their the country. they were they were fleeing from. and in fact, so, yes, various who are various ministers who are obviously a political obviously selling a political scheme have gone there scheme have gone over there and done shoots . however, the done photo shoots. however, the actual british government position on rwanda that we've been putting in the in the un is that rwanda has is a dictatorship that has manifest human rights issues and doesn't allow opposition. >> but there's two things here. the supreme court didn't say the country is not safe. it said it was anxious, wasn't convinced that the rwandan government might not deport the people we've send there back to their country and they could be then imperilled. this very year, country and they could be then impunited this very year, country and they could be then impunited nations; very year, country and they could be then impunited nations sent' year, country and they could be then impunited nations sent refugees the united nations sent refugees to rwanda. the united nations , to rwanda. the united nations, the bleeding heart liberal basket case of the world. in my view, they think it's safe. so why don't you think it's safe? why? >> well, because the court tested it very, very carefully. >> but he didn't say it wasn't

safe for the people. it wasn't convince it that the that the rwandan authorities wouldn't send people away . send people away. >> and that's what safe means if you're being sent back to somewhere that where you're in dangen somewhere that where you're in danger, that you're fleeing from, that means you're not safe. but in addition to that, it was it was only a few years ago that rwanda last massacred refugees who were protesting against the torturous conditions that they were. they were kept in the rwandan government, just shot them, you know, so i was it was 20 years ago now, sam, is it 2018, 2018? the it was only only this year that that the un was able to get the rwandan. >> but you don't but you don't mean the big the big rwandan genocide that we all bring not the rwandan. no that was not in the rwandan. no that was not in the 90s that was a long time ago, 2018. >> this was a massacre of refugees who were detained in rwanda protest fighting rwanda and were protest fighting against the effectively torturous conditions on on under that they were being held the rwandan government just had them shot. but but there's a

different government now. >> and again i, i, i still don't i can't buy that argument in terms of not putting asylum seekers on the plane to rwanda . seekers on the plane to rwanda. what i'm not convinced about is that it's going to be a sufficient deterrent to people coming across on a boat. but because you can't be both, you can't say you can have a lovely life in rwanda for working for the you know, these fabulous digital were setting digital hubs that were setting up then say, but up in rwanda and then say, but it's awful. you're not going it's so awful. you're not going to go there. to want to go there. >> and that's the fundamental contradiction, right. even contradiction, right. and even so, say best case so, let's say even best case scenario, right, the it's scenario, right, that the it's both a deterrent and simultaneously wonderful simultaneously a wonderful place. only the capacity place. there's only the capacity in place at the moment to send 200 people over. so 46,000in that small boats last year, 200 a year or 200 total currently the capacity is for 200 total, but the home secretary said that will go up to 1000 very quickly. and yes, so that's the claim, right. and when they are asked to disclose the evidence to support that claim, they refuse to do so. and so , you know, this to do so. and so, you know, this is my lawyers hat on. if

someone's not if someone's not going evidence to going to provide evidence to support i'm support what they say, i'm always going be sceptical. always going to be sceptical. >> well, well, that's the elephant the room, sam, elephant in the room, then, sam, what would what would you do? would you just keep here just let them keep coming here and here in hotels and and staying here in hotels and barges like we've seen in in in dorset? well, first thing dorset? well, the first thing i'd do is i take my 400 million and i'd invest it in immigration officers to process the claims quicker aren't in quicker so people aren't in hotels barges. hotels and barges. >> second, i'd look at the push factors and the reason the reason that people come here isn't well, in many cases , it's isn't well, in many cases, it's just because they fancy it. but those tend to be rich people that we welcome with open arms. the refugees come the reason that refugees come here they fancy here isn't because they fancy it. because they've been it. it's because they've been treated their treated terribly in their country origin, the country of origin, because the majority them are economic majority of them are economic refugees, view. refugees, in my view. >> think how can you >> i don't think how can you sustain that? the idea that they're all genuinely fleeing an asylum, what were they asylum, what what were they fleeing for? fleeing in albania for? >> the government >> the well, the government disagrees you and the disagrees with you and the majority of people come majority of people that come across in small boats. well, i don't. are tested don't. their claims are tested in great detail by the

government. and the majority of given refugee status, their applications even processed. >> we don't know that they're >> so we don't know that they're all genuine asylum seekers. i don't think they are. but the all we've seen them all young men, we've seen them getting the boats. they're getting off the boats. they're in 30s. they're looking in their 30s. they're looking for jobs, they're looking for work for jobs, they're looking for woryoung persecuted too. for jobs, they're looking for wortthe g persecuted too. for jobs, they're looking for wortthe reason persecuted too. for jobs, they're looking for wortthe reason that)ersecuted too. for jobs, they're looking for wortthe reason that young ted too. for jobs, they're looking for wortthe reason that young menoo. and the reason that young men tend to tend to come across first because they think that first is because they think that young can survive. uh, the young men can survive. uh, the incredibly dangerous passage. so it's a it's not, you know, it's not a secret plan to kind of bring all the young to cause the young men over to cause trouble because we're a soft touch. actually, we're touch. well, actually, we're not. is the thing. we are not. this is the thing. we are the britain is lags behind the britain is lags way behind any other any most other states in the terms of the number of refugees we take. we're well behind our in our responsibilities. and in fact, the vast majority of refugees are taken by incredibly poor states in the middle east and the and the global south. we take i think it was the total number of refugees we've taken is about 240,000. >> that's a major city. >> that's a major city. >> it feels it feels .

>> it feels it feels. >> it feels it feels. >> and i think we conflate way too often. we conflate legal migration and the effects of that very rapid mass migration , that very rapid mass migration, that very rapid mass migration, that 1.2 million people who came over last year and obviously 500,000 left, i think we conflate that with the with the small boats issue. does it i keep hearing, sam from various contributors to this show and i still can't get my head around this theory that this issue works for the government, that it is somehow a distraction, that it it is somehow a distraction, thatitis it is somehow a distraction, that it is somehow they could fix it, but they quite like the small because keeps small boats because it keeps people that and people talking about that and not that maybe not the fact that they maybe can't appointment with can't get an appointment with their can't get an appointment with the yeah, i completely agree with >> yeah, i completely agree with that. and it's not a it's that. the and it's not a it's not a new tactic. right. the you can look at governments and in fact in my book i did a survey of governments over over the of governments over the over the last years and what is last hundred years and what is the invented enemy that they create people from create to distract people from the they're not doing the fact that they're not doing a very good job you pick a very good job and you can pick any government from the past 100 years and you'll someone years and you'll find someone that decided is a is that they've decided is a is a problem. and it's problem. and sometimes it's black in the early 20th

black people. in the early 20th century, was jewish people century, it was jewish people and then was irish people. and then it was irish people. now it's immigrants and it's the they constantly say, look over there , be really angry with this there, be really angry with this marginalised community who are just trying to live their lives rather than be really angry with us because we're not good at our job. >> if it's a distraction strategy , it's not working. i strategy, it's not working. i was going to say in the polls, heading for humiliation at the next general stand that i didn't say it a one. say it was a good one. >> i get i understand that. >> i get i understand that. >> but yeah, i think in this situation it's not really. >> thanks for coming on and joining with joining us, columnist with perspective. and perspective. would you come and see us again? >> i'd love to. >> thank much. >> thank you so much. >> thank you so much. >> thank you so much. >> thank you. right. still to come this morning, are you more concerned about buying your pet come this morning, are you more c(christmas bout buying your pet come this morning, are you more c(christmas presentling your pet come this morning, are you more c(christmas present rather ur pet come this morning, are you more c(christmas present rather thant a christmas present rather than your family? are. your friends or family? we are. >> you know, i'm not concerned. >> you know, i'm not concerned. >> not in this fashion. and >> and not in this fashion. and cop 28 ed gemmell from the cop 28 with ed gemmell from the climate party. that's coming up next. britain's

sunday mornings from 930 on. gb news. >> very good morning . it's 1022. >> very good morning. it's1022. this is britain's newsroom on gb news now. cop 28, the climate conference in dubai is drawing to a close after overrunning by a one day. and there's a big fuss about the wording around fossil fuels in a draft deal fossil fuels in a new draft deal which has finally been agreed . which has finally been agreed. >> so has it been a success or a complete waste of time? let's ask our favourite environmentalist, ed gemmell from the climate party. you know, my view about this complete of time . tell us,

complete waste of time. tell us, first all, what they have first of all, what they have agreed and why it's been so contentious . contentious. >> right. contentious. >> well,. contentious. >> well, they're talking about a transition away from fossil fuels energy system. fuels within the energy system. so that's in there so at least that's in there because that has because nothing like that has been before . the been in there before. the original that lot original wording that a lot of the countries were trying to get in phased that was in was phased down and that was supported by over 100 countries. but it made it's but it never made it. but it's also the energy also only about the energy system. that isn't system. now, that isn't everything we know. i mean, everything as we know. i mean, this is the thing that labour's talking about some extent. this is the thing that labour's talking talking some extent. this is the thing that labour's talking talking about; extent. this is the thing that labour's talking talking about the :ent. this is the thing that labour's talking talking about the energy they're talking about the energy system. it's of what we system. it's part of what we need do. it's not of it, need to do. it's not all of it, but also it's about the really, really wording that really pathetic wording that comes so the parties comes out of it. so the parties have agreed nationally have agreed in their nationally determined ways to look at the transition away from so their nationally determined, their nationally determined, their nationally determined, their nationally determined manner actually is the word using what's the nationally determined manner. it manner. you know, i mean, it gives them all this flexibility to do whatever they like. well that's that that's all right, isn't it, that because we what might work because what we what might work for wouldn't necessarily for us here wouldn't necessarily work wouldn't work in dubai, wouldn't necessarily sweden or germany? >> i quite like national >> i quite like a national decision making process. >> exactly .

>> ed right, exactly. >> ed right, exactly. >> but then you're not getting what whole set out what this whole thing is set out to is to get a global to do is to get a global agreement on what's actually going don't like global agreement, said the one actual thing well, don't thing that's in it. well, don't worry, no effect worry, this one has no effect whatsoever. so i mean i think we're some some we're in agreement in some some accepts about as accepts it's talking about as well what's needed get well doing what's needed to get to zero by 2050 to to net zero by 2050 to accelerating us towards now accelerating us towards it now and it in keeping with and then it says in keeping with the science. but there's nothing in that says getting in the science that says getting to net zero by is exactly in the science that says getting to rrightro by is exactly in the science that says getting to rrightro by to is exactly in the science that says getting to rrightro by to do.; exactly in the science that says getting to rrightro by to do. and ctly in the science that says getting to rrightro by to do. and iny the right thing to do. and in fact, the science that was brought out at cop 26 is saying that the budget for 1.5 that the carbon budget for 1.5 degrees 2028. degrees runs out in 2028. so there's nothing science there's nothing in the science that suggests i actually that suggests this. i actually think the chinese will be think that the chinese will be rubbing their glee at rubbing their hands in glee at this particular thing. we've agreed it's very agreed something. it's not very strong. going to strong. people are not going to take action and they keep making a leading this a lot of money by leading this enormous transition in a lot of money by leading this enorrparticular transition in a lot of money by leading this enorrparticular countrytion in a lot of money by leading this enorrparticular country atn in a lot of money by leading this enorrparticular country at the moment. >> did any did any countries say, no, we're not signing up to this, the end. this, not in the end. >> pathetic. well, how can you have that sort of much agreement? >> it's ridiculous. >> it's ridiculous. >> it's because system >> well, it's because the system requires at

requires 100% agreement at the end.so requires 100% agreement at the end. so they negotiate and negotiate negotiate to get negotiate and negotiate to get 100% agreement something 100% agreement on something that's not binding. so, i mean, you know, i mean, completely ridiculous. are some ridiculous. now, there are some good know, the idea of good bits, you know, the idea of ramping renewables three ramping up renewables three times there bit in times by 2030, there is a bit in about rate at which about doubling the rate at which we are increasing efficiency , we are increasing efficiency, not doubling the efficiency in the power system, but doubling the power system, but doubling the rate at which we increase the rate at which we increase the efficiency, which is a terribly, terribly low bar . if terribly, terribly low bar. if it's being increased 1% a year at the moment, we might be increasing it by 2. and then there's some some good there's also some some good stuff road transport stuff in about road transport and of unabated and phasing down of unabated coal, again, not phasing coal, but again, not phasing out coal, but again, not phasing out coal down coal in any coal or phasing down coal in any sense . sense. >> fact, the fact this is >> the fact, the fact this is held in united arab held in the united arab emirates, i mean, i laughed out loud i heard was going loud when i heard it was going to and the president to be there. and the president at conference, who were at of the conference, who were drafted the final communique were works for abu dhabi oil company. i mean, you couldn't make this up . make this up. >> well, he's yeah, the average village idiot wouldn't pick a petro state to hold it. >> and then the ceo of an oil company in charge, but then also

the average village idiot wouldn't next one wouldn't then put the next one in another. supported in another. petrostate supported by russia, azerbaijan for next yeah >> so and that's that's a almost a satellite state of kremlin certainly supported in the sense in the way forward. >> so we're moving straight into exactly the same thing in a year's time. but let's actually look at i mean, should we be holding this at all? no. well, okay. i know your view is now my view is totally changed. yes. but completely different but a completely different thing. got 84,000 thing. i mean, we've got 84,000 or here. the or more delegates here. the number delegates has number of delegates here has gone 1000% since the gone up to 1000% since the original one in berlin in 1995, because well, because it's a jolly well, absolutely. because it's a jolly well, absit's:ely. because it's a jolly well, absit's profitable oil. >> it's profitable oil. >> it's profitable oil. >> absolutely. who produce >> absolutely. those who produce chardonnay rubbing their chardonnay are rubbing their hands as hands in glee all the time as they look it. but the second they look at it. but the second part is when the unfcc part about it is when the unfcc was originally brought into into place, let's say in 1994, it was talking stabilising the place, let's say in 1994, it was talkinof stabilising the place, let's say in 1994, it was talkinof greenhouse sing the place, let's say in 1994, it was talkinof greenhouse gases1e the level of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere that was the aim. so stabilising you know what stabilising it, you know what we're at today? don't it go we're at today? don't let it go up. we've increased it by 60% in that as well. and we're that time as well. and we're still we're still still just and we're still increasing it because we're

pumping more year. so pumping more in every year. so we done anything that we haven't done anything that we were decades ago. were aiming to do decades ago. it's not getting there. what do we to do? that 84,000 we need to do? cut that 84,000 people down to 1000 or 2000, get the right degree. peter's there, pick the topics, get in there, hammer out 3 or 4 days. hammer it out over 3 or 4 days. get out . get out. >> i want to know your perspective specifically on this, you consider this, because you consider yourself right leaning yourself to be a right leaning environmentalist . environmentalist. >> kind of accept that >> if you kind of accept that actually corporations actually it's corporations that run now they have the run the world. now they have the governments are their little puppets on their strings, but it's the corporations that are running there is running the world. and there is money to be made from the green agenda. you would say, well, that's if that's a good thing because if you make profit as well you can make profit as well whilst improving the whilst also improving the planet, that's what we want planet, then that's what we want to how do people the to do. but how do people on the streets from this streets make money from this movement? we're not just the global . global corporation. >> couple of things global corporation. >> up couple of things global corporation. >> up together|ple of things global corporation. >> up together just of things global corporation. >> up together just let's ngs global corporation. >> up together just let's go; tied up together just let's go from cop down into the people on the mean, what has the street. i mean, what has happened we've got happened at cop is we've got this general direction, this sort of general direction, okay? we've got a sort of general movement, general direction of movement, a bit acceptance of it, bit of an acceptance of it, which up opportunities which opens up opportunities because do have than 85%

because we do have more than 85% of gdp now on a net of the world's gdp now on a net zero pathway. there are zero pathway. so there are opportunities there. and the opportunities there. and at the moment are minting moment the chinese are minting it they're doing on it in with what they're doing on renewables. dominating it in with what they're doing on reneworld. ;. dominating it in with what they're doing on reneworld. but dominating it in with what they're doing on reneworld. but for dominating it in with what they're doing on reneworld. but for us, dominating it in with what they're doing on reneworld. but for us, the inating the world. but for us, the opportunity is still open because the world hasn't committed to real action. britain ahead now and britain could leap ahead now and start action going. start getting the action going. unleash the city, which the prime talked about prime minister has talked about recently well. but would recently as well. but this would unleash we brought unleash the city if we brought our forward and grabbed unleash the city if we brought our opportunity.1rd and grabbed unleash the city if we brought our opportunity. and nd grabbed unleash the city if we brought our opportunity. and then abbed unleash the city if we brought our opportunity. and then for ed the opportunity. and then for the opportunity. and then for the man the street, the the man in the street, the average and i and average person, you and i and everybody there be everybody else, there would be the opportunity to have more money the country money coming into the country because the amount because we increase the amount of goods that exporting. of goods that we're exporting. we industrial we increase our industrial capacity, to lower capacity, we start to lower our trade hopefully turn it trade deficit, hopefully turn it the opposite and have the opposite way around and have a of payments. a positive balance of payments. and then we start having more money the nhs for the money for the nhs for the police, social services and police, for social services and for to be for everything we want to be doing here. >> on part of that, >> i'm with you on part of that, ed, but i just don't see how it ends up in the pockets of normal people. but we will have to carry on another day. thank carry that on another day. thank you much. carry that on another day. thank youthanks:h. coming, from >> thanks for coming, edgar from the christmas is the climate party christmas is approaching and new research

shows it's our who shows it's our pets who are keeping us truly merry. >> a fifth of the uk also states that one of their cherished that one of their most cherished moments the festivities moments during the festivities is gifting dog or cat with is gifting their dog or cat with a christmas present. >> includes eamonn >> and that includes eamonn holmes. we yesterday. >> do just cherish >> but do we just cherish cherish christmas? cherish our pets at christmas? well, now is the well, joining us now is the battersea dogs and cats behavioural baz . good behavioural expert rob baz. good morning, rob. okay so why now? i've got to put my cards on the table here. i am frightened of all dogs. i'm frightened of all animals. i know it's a bit pathetic. i've got two useless little guinea pigs that i can't even pick up, so sell it to me. why? as a owner , would you why? as a pet owner, would you want to spend money on giving them a piece of tat ? them a piece of tat? >> yeah. so we know from . so we >> yeah. so we know from. so we know from research that around about 80% of people that were surveyed through the pedigree, through pedigree and a partnership with battersea , they partnership with battersea, they explained that pets form a huge part of their christmas period and that they they really do embrace their pets during the christmas period . and obviously,

christmas period. and obviously, our pets are important to us. they offer companionship. a lot of on their pets. of people rely on their pets. they offer sociability. they they offer sociability. they they offer sociability. they can get you out for exercise and things that. exercise and things like that. so it's really it's really quite rewarding have have a pet, rewarding to have to have a pet, whether or a dog. whether that's a cat or a dog. um and obviously we want to we want to share that festive joy with well. we want to with them as well. we want to engage through entire engage them through the entire christmas whether that's christmas period, whether that's giving having giving them presents, having a pet friendly christmas dinner as well, we see well, which which we see pedigree can provide . and we pedigree can provide. and we want to make sure that they are they're included. they're a big part families. and part of people's families. and especially last few especially in the last few years, we've needed our pets more ever. more than ever. >> what's a pet friendly >> rob, what's a pet friendly dinner? mean i've got dinner? does that mean i've got to pedigree chum, instead of to eat pedigree chum, instead of turkey ? turkey? >> no, worry. you can >> no, don't worry. you can still have you can still have your christmas dinner. but. but obviously new obviously there's lots of new food and things at food around and things at christmas that be quite christmas and that can be quite dangerous things like christmas and that can be quite dangerlike things like christmas and that can be quite dangerlike chocolate,hings like christmas and that can be quite dangerlike chocolate, alcohol;e christmas and that can be quite dangerlike chocolate, alcohol , things like chocolate, alcohol, even dried fruits can be quite dangerous for pets as well. so if we are giving pets a christmas dinner, we want to make sure that it's a pet

friendly one, something that's produced for animals and obviously and reduce the obviously try and reduce the amount of human into the amount of human food into the intake have as there's intake that they have as there's often of new food in the often lots of new food in the for christmas. for house christmas. >> on what are people >> and what on what are people in experience, rob, buying in your experience, rob, buying their for christmas? is it their dogs for christmas? is it some old which some old, smelly, old bone which they up ? they wrap up? >> no. often you find people by by things like toys , toys for by things like toys, toys for their dog. so it's really important to make sure that obviously if you're buying things for your dogs, that it's safe for them to so things safe for them to have. so things like obviously , they like bones, obviously, they absolutely suitable for absolutely are suitable for dogs, but they're not going to be all so be suitable for all dogs. so just making sure that you buy presents that are that are right for your breed of that for your the breed of dogs that you things soft toys, you have things like soft toys, tennis are a big tennis balls are a big favourite. you often get of favourite. you often get lots of lots of ball stockings lots of tennis ball stockings that in shops that you find in pet shops around this time. they're around about this time. they're great. sort of great. they're great sort of things. buy for your things. gifts to buy for your pets, all right. >> thank you so much. fascinating rob bays there from battersea cats. battersea dogs and cats. >> i'm feeling guilty because i don't buy minnie and rosie, my two moggies heinz, 57. anything

for christmas ? for christmas? >> heinz 57. >> heinz 57. >> what do you mean? >> what do you mean? >> well, they're just. they've got no pedigree. >> it's just. >> oh, so it's just. >> just a couple of moggies >> just like a couple of moggies from a from from off the shelf from a from a from off the shelf from a from a from off the shelf from a from a from off the shelf from a rescue place. yeah. wow >> so if you're listening, minnie and rosie, because the radio you ain't radio is on, and you ain't getting anything , it's all going getting anything, it's all going to be weird. >> right? still to come this morning, offensive and embarrassing. former top bbc executive danny cohen has said that the bbc should part ways with the insolent gary lineker after latest bout of after his latest bout of political tweets. is it time up for the broadcaster? that's a much more after your morning's news after he's done his cuff links and it's your morning's news with tatiana sanchez. >> do you want a hand? >> do you want a hand? >> i'll be fine. thank. >> do you want a hand? >> i'll be fine. thank . bev. >> i'll be fine. thank. bev. >> i'll be fine. thank. bev. >> thank you. it's 1033. >> i'll be fine. thank. bev. >> thank you. it's1033. i'm tatiana sanchez in the newsroom. tory rebels have warned they'll vote against the draft rwanda law when it returns to the commons in the new year. unless it's amended . and mps backed the

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& co weeknights from. six 1039 with britain's newsroom on gb news with andrew pierce. >> i'm bev turner. we're going to talk now to the tory mp for the isle of wight, bob seely. he voted for the rwanda bill last night. morning to you. night. bob, good morning to you. >> . morning. morning. >> morning. morning. morning. morning, you morning, andrew. how are you doing? >> morning. and a more comfortable perhaps comfortable majority perhaps than were predicting. >> yeah , to be honest, i thought >> yeah, to be honest, i thought it was going to be a bit closer, so i'm absolutely delighted that it a good, comfortable it was a good, comfortable majority the majority and well done. the prime minister james prime minister and james cleverly who abstained. >> bob, what was their motivation ? okay bev, i think if motivation? okay bev, i think if you look at some of the extensions or a lot of them, well, some of them were slipped. >> so some of the people may have been away for personal reasons. et cetera. cetera. reasons. et cetera. et cetera. there were just under 30 people who to vote who didn't want to vote positively support the bill. positively to support the bill. and clearly, have to make and clearly, we have to make sure we keep those sure that we keep those colleagues side. think colleagues on side. i think a small number on one side of the

party, a slightly larger number on the sort of new conservatives, european reform group side. so the more conservative side of the party, i'm hoping that people don't start trying to vote this down at committee stage and at third reading. i think that would be really for our party. really damaging for our party. we need to keep together , but we we need to keep together, but we need we also need we just need to get this bill through . i to get this bill through. i don't buy the argument of people say it won't work. they don't know won't work. and i do know it won't work. and i do think probably the prime minister has gone as as he minister has gone as far as he can whilst remaining within the law. >> how has this turned into an albatross around the tory party's neck? because idea party's neck? because the idea was would show clear blue was this would show clear blue water the labour party who water with the labour party who frankly are bankrupt. they've got ideas at all how to stop got no ideas at all how to stop the boats crossing the channel. this was meant to be a big vote winner for the tories, but it's turned into a complete pr disaster . disaster. >> i wouldn't put it like that. but look, we need to get this bill through . i think the

bill through. i think the problem has been it has become so difficult to do even now with a sovereign parliament. it is sometimes difficult to get around some of these legal obstructions and some is there for good reason, because we need to be, you know, a law governed country. and some of it is there because of judicial activism. andrew over the decades. so if you the this this you look at the echr, this this was brought in after world war ii to try to restore fundamental law, governed values to a continent which had undergone fascism and naziism. but it was also undergoing socialism and communism. since then, unfortunately, it's become a vehicle for judicial activism . vehicle for judicial activism. and so what the echr and sort of european and international laws were for and what they've become are two very different things . are two very different things. and i think that's the frustration for us and that's what we are dealing with. it's more difficult than it should be, but also, andrew, the rwanda bill is part of a package of measures . so bill is part of a package of measures. so it's bill is part of a package of measures . so it's not bill is part of a package of

measures. so it's not just rwanda or nothing . the numbers rwanda or nothing. the numbers of arrivals of illegal arrivals is down by a third in europe. it's up by a third in mediterranean countries , is up mediterranean countries, is up by nearly 100. so things are improving . improving. >> bob, why have we already given rwanda a couple of hundred million quid with more to follow when we have no guarantee of getting a single person on an aeroplane when we're giving the money because we need to put money because we need to put money upfront into investing in the program there. >> if it doesn't work, it's a massive waste of money. if it does work, it's very good value considering every 100 days we spend nearly £1 billion on hotels for asylum seekers and thatis hotels for asylum seekers and that is a figure that enrages people because we have so many illegal people coming here and they are costing in hotel costs alone £8 million a day. so i'm afraid to say the big sums that we're sending in rwanda actually may be very good money considering the vast amounts of money that we're spending on

just hotels for illegal migrants i >> -- >> can we km >> can we ask you just to make a prediction, bob, if we've got an election in may or june, which election in may orjune, which i think is highly likely, will a single flight have taken off for rwanda with packed with migrants ? >> 7- >> yes, i 7_ >> yes, i hope ? >> yes, i hope so. and i'm happy for an election in may, because you've got a government that's trying deal with this problem trying to deal with this problem where where about the only where the where about the only government where government in europe where illegal declining , illegal migration is declining, where everywhere else it's pretty increasing. but, pretty much increasing. but, andrew, say yourself, the andrew, as you say yourself, the labour they don't have labour party, they don't have a clue this. they frankly got clue on this. they frankly got three policies. they tax three policies. they want to tax and spend another 30 billion. so taxes up in, inflation taxes going up in, inflation going . they reckon you're going up. they reckon if you're a biological you have a biological male you can have access female spaces , access to female only spaces, which is an attack on which i think is an attack on female rights. want to female rights. and they want to they to stuff the middle they want to stuff the middle classes vat on classes by putting vat on private education. they have no policies this or frankly, any policies on this or frankly, any other. and the very few policies that they actually have are highly detrimental to this country. so i'm up for an early general election. i'm also up for making sure that we can get six of rwanda flights and

six months of rwanda flights and get the economy growing, get debt down, get schools and health service back on track because we've got great record because we've got a great record on and education and on schooling and education and have a november election. i'm happy for an early one and actually contrast we're actually contrast what we're doing absolute doing with the absolute incompetence and the fact that after years opposition, after 14 years in opposition, the labour still haven't the labour party still haven't got still haven't got clue. >> bob, just one quick question. why can't process people more why can't we process people more quickly? what our viewers why can't we process people more qu home what our viewers why can't we process people more qu home will what our viewers why can't we process people more qu home will vwondering. wers at home will be wondering. that's frustrated that's what we're so frustrated about. backlog, why £1 about. why the backlog, why £1 billion hundred days billion every hundred days on hotels is, i think just because of the scale the illegal of the scale of the illegal migrants . migrants. >> this this thing happened quite after 2018, 2019, quite quickly after 2018, 2019, as it became a business model for organised crime . so i think for organised crime. so i think it's just the scale. but as robert jenrick who made a very good speech yesterday, pointed out, the numbers of people waiting are dramatically lowering. but the problem is there's no point just pretending there's no point just pretending the system is working. if you're just stamping economic just rubber stamping economic migrants the country . migrants into the country. something like 85% of the people coming across are males are

single males. coming across are males are single males . and so the idea single males. and so the idea that sort of it's only single males that are somehow fleeing asylum in countries like turkey where there isn't a war, albania, where there isn't a war, bulgaria where there isn't a war, and we've got no return deals with all these countries . deals with all these countries. so folks coming from albania , so folks coming from albania, from turkey, from, from , from from turkey, from, from, from bulgaria, you know, they're automatically they're hopefully going to be going back to those countries. but we need to sign deals with other nations as well. that's all part the well. that's all part of the package stuff that we're doing. >> okay. all right. mp for the isle of wight, bob seely there. if to be an mp, i'd if i was going to be an mp, i'd like to mp for the isle of like to be mp for the isle of wight. i'm not after your job, wight. i'm not after yourjob, bob. don't worry. but what a nice place. what a nice place to live. >> electorate anywhere in british parliament. that right? >> f- f pound is f“ >> stephen pound is with us. say that again. the biggest that again. it's the biggest electorate anywhere. >> something >> there's just something the average this average constituency in this country 80,000 people. country is about 80,000 people. right. wight, right. the isle of wight, it's more like 100,000 because more like 100,000 people because at they're going to at one stage they're going to split into two and have bit split it into two and have a bit of hampshire, which

of southern hampshire, which was not gerrymandered. it's not so much gerrymandered. it's sort of like ferryman thing. i mean, people backwards mean, moving people backwards and across the solent. and forwards across the solent. but third but but bob is the third generation represent but but bob is the third generati of represent but but bob is the third generati of wight, represent but but bob is the third generati of wight, two 3resent but but bob is the third generati of wight, two different parties. >> well, i've got no chance of getting a job then. >> well, sorry about that. but he he does know his stuff. he does. he does know his stuff. except for one thing. when he he does. he does know his stuff. excepabout ne thing. when he he does. he does know his stuff. excepabout a; thing. when he he does. he does know his stuff. excepabout a victory when he he does. he does know his stuff. excepabout a victory lasten he talks about a victory last night, it wasn't a victory in politics. sometimes the absence of completely destructive of a completely destructive defeat is as victory. defeat is seen as a victory. this deferral. well, those this is a deferral. well, those people didn't vote against people who didn't vote against it their hands it last night sat on their hands because second because this is the second reading. early stage reading. this is the early stage of sausage machine, if you of the sausage machine, if you like. we've got we've the like. we've got we've got the report stage committee, stage third, that business. we've third, all that business. we've got to. but andrew, got a lot to. but andrew, i think you cut not for the first time about this how time to the quick about this how many planes will actually take off. will be off. i don't think there will be any next may. think any election next may. i think the people will cling on to as long as they possibly can. however, the planes are however, even if the planes are taking off with sort of taking off with a sort of regularity this, as if regularity like this, as if they're off to benidorm they're heading off to benidorm in august, still going to in august, it's still going to tiny, the tiny, tiny scratch of the surface. if on the one hand, surface. and if on the one hand, they deterrent, on

they say it's a deterrent, on they say it's a deterrent, on the other hand, they're saying, you this place is you know, this place is a paradise. nice safe. you know, this place is a par buta. nice safe. you know, this place is a par but what nice safe. you know, this place is a par but what if ce safe. you know, this place is a par but what if it�* safe. you know, this place is a par but what if it is safe. >> but what if it is a deterrent? then it works. >> i simply don't see how this is like boris johnson's fantasy island talks about island when he talks about having airport maplin having an airport on maplin sands or something. it's fantasy. it cannot i will sands or something. it's fantmy it cannot i will sands or something. it's fantmy hat,3nnot i will sands or something. it's fantmy hat, livet i will sands or something. it's fantmy hat, live on i will sands or something. it's fantmy hat, live on air i will sands or something. it's fantmy hat, live on air if will sands or something. it's fantmy hat, live on air if it ll works. >> emma webb do you want to see him eat his hat? >> do, but he took the words >> i do, but he took the words right out of my mouth. i agree with guess i'd have to with him, so i guess i'd have to eat hat well. i think eat my hat as well. i, i think you're that this is you're right that this is a deferral. and actually, it's interesting bob used interesting that bob seely used was sovereignty was talking about sovereignty of parliament because actually the question mark is over whether parliament sovereign. parliament really is sovereign. it's you know, it's supposed to be, you know, the sort of last stop when it comes to our legislation. but we've court and we've got the supreme court and we've got the supreme court and we've international we've got international courts that the ones that are actually the ones who are the so are calling the shots. so i think stephen's right when he says just a says that this is just a deferral, think deferral, because i think the reason these mps have chosen reason why these mps have chosen to 29 mps choosing to abstain, 29 mps choosing to abstain, even though they are dead bill abstain, even though they are dead they bill abstain, even though they are dead they don't bill abstain, even though they are dead they don't think that because they don't think that it's robust enough. and i agree with think it's with them. i don't think it's robust i think it's robust enough. i think it's fantasy to think this is fantasy to think that this is this bill going to be

this bill is not going to be abused shot down exactly abused and shot down in exactly the previous the same way as previous attempts to make these deportation been deportation flights have been done. but i think what they've done. but i think what they've done that they've to done is that they've chosen to abstain , possibly partly because abstain, possibly partly because there was a concern that the conservative party would basically be over if this legislation didn't jump this hurdle. but there plan is to put in amendments later that will tighten up this bill and hopefully make it work. i don't feel particularly hopeful that they will be able to do that, partly because there is also another enormous group of mps, the one nation conservatives, who to put amendments to who want to put amendments to sort of balance that out . so sort of balance that out. so this is not a victory really at all. i think it might be a good pr stunt for rishi to be seen celebrating . yes. but i think celebrating. yes. but i think realistically , you know, this realistically, you know, this this is terrible that the british public are having to even put up with the fact that this is going on for so long. we need this to be stopped now. we need this to be stopped now. we

need be stopped. need this to be stopped. yesterday, two years ago. we can't it further and then can't wait it further and then to potentially have another general election where the labour party just squander all of it anyway. >> and andrew used the word earlier, love that it earlier, which i love that it will marmoles in next will be marmoles in the next stages this bill. stephen and where does that leave rishi sunak? >> it'll be ripped to shreds in committees. >> absolutely no question about that. and then to think about the house lords, imagine, the house of lords, imagine, absolutely what their lordships will look it will make of this. look it always was a fantasy . it always always was a fantasy. it always was the israelis was a nonsense. the israelis sent people rwanda, 20 sent 40,000 people to rwanda, 20 odd years ago. where are they all disappeared. some of them were uganda . of were sent to uganda. some of them came israel. them just came back to israel. it simply doesn't work. >> the united nations been >> the united nations has been sending rwanda this >> the united nations has been send and rwanda this >> the united nations has been send and sending rwanda this >> the united nations has been send and sending refugees a this >> the united nations has been send and sending refugees from; rwanda. >> they actually, as united nafions >> they actually, as united nations post in rwanda , actually nations post in rwanda, actually for people from rwanda, seeking asylum outside rwanda, look what we did back back in the long distant days when we had a labour government. we had nothing like these figures because we processed people in sangatte in dover or on the

sangatte or in dover or on the south coast. there's of south coast. there's a lot of the people come leaving the people who come here leaving aside your men, you know, aside your single men, you know, from or bulgaria or from albania or bulgaria or wherever, they wherever, you know, they shouldn't. they turn around and send straight back. send them straight back. but somebody or somebody from iran or afghanistan, if we send them back to kabul kandahar or back to kabul or kandahar or tehran, you know, the scimitars are going to be sharpened the are going to be sharpened on the runway. to not runway. they're going to not last. not going happen. last. it's not going to happen. so people a so let's those people who have a legitimate right, let's get them so let's those people who have a leghere.ite right, let's get them so let's those people who have a leghere. let'siht, let's get them so let's those people who have a leghere. let's get let's get them so let's those people who have a leghere. let's get themiet them so let's those people who have a leghere. let's get them working in here. let's get them working and paying tax. and let's get them paying tax. >> you have no >> stephen pound, do you have no shame? what tony blair did on immigration country immigration to this country between 2000 and 2010 was appalling . he opened the appalling. he opened the floodgates deliberately and wilfully to change the country. >> you're talking about european shame? no, sorry. you're talking about the expansion of the european poland , european union. when poland, when he told he should bring when he was told he should bring in transitional arrangements to limit the numbers and he ignored it and in the first year it was three million. three quarters of a million. >> and not a million? >> and did we not a million? >> and did we not a million? >> we not do very well out >> did we not do very well out of no, it's changed. >> it's changed the complexion changed. >> icommunities.1e complexion and communities. >> extraordinary thing, >> but the extraordinary thing, andrew. thing andrew. extraordinary thing is that those poles

that the majority of those poles i come from one of most i come from one of the most poush i come from one of the most polish you polish parts of england. if you think london, ealing, think west london, ealing, a huge number of poles, huge number of those poles, they're back they've they're going back now. they've come their come here, they've made their contribution, their contribution, they've paid their taxes. problem with taxes. i have no problem with that any more. >> romania. >> coming from romania. >> coming from romania. >> in huge number. but >> not not in huge number. but those who are actually those who do come are actually paying those who do come are actually paying taxes. but the problem we have that there's have here is that there's a national here. we national security issue here. we do not know is in this do not know who is in this country. do not know who country. we do not know who these coming. we need these people are coming. we need to get them fingerprinted and documented. and i'm sorry. >> forgive you start on >> god forgive me. you start on digital pound. digital id, stephen pound. >> where you and >> this is where you and i massively disagree. >> we actually need to >> no, but we actually need to know who they are. we need to process who process them because those who shouldn't here simply shouldn't be here simply shouldn't be here simply shoand 't shouldn't be here simply shoand that is why that is why >> and that is why that is why you meant to these you are meant to fear these people, that what's people, because that is what's coming got coming down the line. we've got to cambridge to move on. cambridge university. are having to university. emma, are having to cut the workload for the most intelligent young people in the country because they can't cope with it and their mental health is going it's so it's so stupid. >> i mean, i did my undergraduate at cambridge . i undergraduate at cambridge. i went to cambridge from a state

school, so it really was sort of in at the deep end. and you should expect that those who are going to the best universities in the country and there is this thing in cambridge, it was mentioned article about mentioned in the article about this was a thing when this and it was a thing when i was when i was there as well, a five a week, blues. five week, a week, five blues. yeah because it's a six week term. yeah. so it's . is that it. term. yeah. so it's. is that it. eight week. >> eight week is it eight. >> eight week is it eight. >> so it's it is very intensive obviously it depends on the course that you do . but course that you do. but generally across the generally speaking across the board it is very intensive. it should be very you should be very intensive. you should be very intensive. you should those who are should expect those who are going cambridge and oxford should expect those who are gointo cambridge and oxford should expect those who are gointo cambriuniversitieszord should expect those who are gointo cambriuniversitiesini and to the best universities in this they should, this country that they should, you know , they they should be in you know, they they should be in a sense, in at the deep end. i think all of this is just namby pamby pandering to this sort of therapeutic culture. if we want people who are graduating from these universities to not have their degrees devalued by the sort of standards being lowered

across the board, i, i just think that it would devalue oxford, cambridge and the upper echelons of our educational system, soppy snowflakes . emma system, soppy snowflakes. emma well, i think honestly , i think well, i think honestly, i think it's lame. i think i wonder why it's lame. i think i wonder why it shouldn't be, why it should not be easy to go to cambridge. >> why now? we've only got, we've only got 20s but stephen why now is this generation not able to cope? >> because as the professor at cambridge said, people cambridge said, he said, people are demanding now, are just more demanding now, but they of milquetoast they are a bunch of milquetoast snowflakes without of snowflakes without a shadow of a doubt. never had any of doubt. we'd never had any of this at worked this nonsense at lse. we worked hard, but remember that there will lot of students who. will be a lot of students who. >> we've go. we got to >> we've got to go. we got to go. got go, guys. go. we've got to go, guys. >> we're to be joined go. we've got to go, guys. >> �*mps�* to be joined go. we've got to go, guys. >> �*mps who to be joined go. we've got to go, guys. >> �*mps who support.ioined go. we've got to go, guys. >> �*mps who support. dided go. we've got to go, guys. >> �*mps who support. did rishi two mps who support. did rishi last find what they last night find out what they think the rwanda in think about the rwanda rebels in a brighter outlook a minute. a brighter outlook with of with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> good morning. welcome to your latest gb news weather update from the met office. it will stay rather dull and damp across

eastern areas through much of the day, but drier and brighter weather will arrive into northwestern areas. that's got us off to a more of a frostier start across parts of scotland this and that drier , this morning. and that drier, clearer weather become more clearer weather will become more widespread through rest of widespread through the rest of the spreading into parts of the day, spreading into parts of north—west wales , as north—west england, wales, as well of southwest well as parts of southwest england as well. in the south and though it will stay and east, though it will stay dull and damp with drizzly rain coming in off onshore breeze coming in off an onshore breeze from north that'll from the north sea. that'll bnng from the north sea. that'll bring feel the day bring a cooler feel to the day with around seven with highs of around seven degrees areas . and degrees for many areas. and after the chillier start across the northwest temperatures the northwest, temperatures will struggle the day. that struggle through the day. that clearer of weather then clearer slot of weather then moves further eastwards throughout the night tonight. that a more that will allow a more widespread frost to develop, particularly across central and eastern areas , by tomorrow eastern areas, by tomorrow morning. further north and west, though, we do see the next band of in that could bring of rain push in that could bring a spell of hill snow across parts of the pennines. and generally colder generally it'll just be a colder feel to the start of the day on thursday . the rain pushes east thursday. the rain pushes east through the course of thursday,

so will thicken and some so cloud will thicken and some drizzly rain is expected at least by the afternoon . but the least by the afternoon. but the rain does tend to fizzle out by the latter part of the day and it does turn drier and brighter across many central and western areas. by thursday afternoon noon, temperatures are starting to climb as we're picking up milder air to highs of 12 degrees thursday in the degrees on thursday in the south. we'll also see 12 degrees in the north on friday. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on . gb news. on. gb news. >> well, thanks, eddie . i'm >> well, thanks, eddie. i'm really looking forward to it. still to come, ann widdecombe, the former strictly come dancing contestant, dancing is you use the word advisedly with ann is joining us to give her thoughts on the candidates on the final coming ann and the people we coming up. ann and the people we think are your britain's think are cheat your britain's newsroom

gb news. it's 11 am. on wednesday, the 13th of december. this is britain's newsroom on gb news with pierce and bev with andrew pierce and bev turner sunak wins rwanda vote. >> the prime minister secured a huge victory last night and no tory voted against tory mps voted against the bill. our christopher our political editor christopher hope the latest . hope has the latest. >> the missing mum a search for the mother of three from norwich. she's called gaynor law. she was last seen on friday afternoon. very worrying for the family. we're going have the

family. we're going to have the latest . latest. >> a ya- ya— w a funding flop. the >> and a royal funding flop. the duke and duchess of sussex have been dubbed amongst the biggest losers of 2023 as their archewell foundation faces an almost £9 million drop in revenue and strictly scandal. >> the actor layton williams is in the final three, but there's controversy over his previous experience dancing in the world of musical theatre. we're going to be talking to ann widdecombe . to be talking to ann widdecombe. i went to see her in strictly. >> i was going to say ann widdecombe, who didn't dance in musical theatre. >> i went syrian strictly, and she got through. and i to she got through. and i have to say would, her own say she would, by her own admission, she didn't admission, admit she didn't exactly anton exactly dance the routine. anton du bec guided thought it du bec guided her and thought it was fantastic to watch. >> i mean, haven't watched >> i mean, i haven't watched much this series of strictly, much of this series of strictly, to be honest. >> been a bit an i'm >> it's been a bit of an i'm a celebrity time in our house on a saturday night, but that guy

i've on the clip, he's i've just seen on the clip, he's an musical dancer and an ex musical theatre dancer and he's final. he's in the final. >> billy elliot, which >> he was in billy elliot, which is about young lad in a is all about a young lad in a mining community. >> he wants to be a ballet dancer and becomes ballet dancer and becomes a ballet danceh dancer. it's all about dance. there dancer. it's all about dance. thewhich one is it? the guy on >> which one is it? the guy on the the guy on the right the left or the guy on the right is. i'm looking at is it the mixed race guy or the white guy guy? he's the actor guy? okay so he's the actor who used a musical theatre. used to be a musical theatre. he's the amateur. >> on.bbc >> yeah. oh, come on. bbc >> yeah. oh, come on. bbc >> and please spare me. why have you two blokes dancing together? >> thought might it. >> i thought you might like it. you don't like it? none of us. >> don't to dance with >> i don't stick to dance with somebody opposite sex. somebody of the opposite sex. >> i don't. i don't it too >> i don't. i don't mind it too much. anyway, let us know much. but anyway, let us know your that's what your thoughts. that's what matters. your thoughts. that's what mattthat's you and your sure that's what you and your partner on christmas partner look like on christmas eve. around the the eve. around the around the christmas views gb christmas tree. gb views at gb news. the email address. news. com is the email address. first here's very first though, here's your very latest with sanchez latest news with tatiana sanchez i >> -- >> bev thank you very much and good morning. 11:02. i'm tatiana sanchez in the newsroom. tory rebels have warned they'll vote

against the draft rwanda law when it returns to the commons in the new year. unless it's amended. mps back the bill with amended. mps back the bill with a majority of 44 for no tory member voted against it, but 38 abstained, which is enough to vote. the legislation down at the next reading. rebels say they want to ensure asylum seekers can be deported to rwanda before the next election. former immigration minister robert jenrick, who resigned last week over the bill, was among those to abstain. >> but the public expect us to secure our borders. >> so i'll always fight for that and i'm pleased that it sounds as if there's a way forward where we make the bill where we can make the bill better to better and you're going to be able the prime able to persuade the prime minister bill at minister to change the bill at all. i certainly hope so. all. well, i certainly hope so. he shares my determination to fight issue illegal fight this issue illegal migration of the great migration is one of the great scourges of our it's doing scourges of our time. it's doing untold our country and untold damage to our country and we're tackle it . we're determined to tackle it. >> shadow culture secretary thangam debbonaire says the government's priorities are all wrong . wrong. >> we saw over the weekend was indicative of the weak leadership that we have from

rishi sunak and the total chaos that there is in this government and fact that they and moreover, the fact that they are concentrating a are concentrating on a plan that's going to work when that's never going to work when there are people up and down the country worried sick about how they're their they're going to pay their bills under with under a labour government. with our plan, we will be getting them processed will be them processed and we will be sending if they're not sending them home if they're not supposed if they supposed to be here. but if they are entitled to be here, want are entitled to be here, we want them to get on with them to be able to get on with working and contributing to this country to do so country as they want to do so that get on their lives. >> the uk economy contracted faster than expected with office for national statistics data showing a 0.3% fall in october. all three main sectors fell into negative territory for the first time since july , with services time since july, with services the biggest driver of the downturn. manufacturing and construction was affected by poor weather. the chief secretary to the treasury, laura trott, says the economy is turning a corner as well. >> the pm's top priority this year has been to halve inflation and as a result of that we've had to take some difficult decisions and the bank of

england has had to drive down inflation monetary inflation by tight monetary policy. so that's high interest rates inevitably has an rates that inevitably has an impact growth. but the impact on growth. but the economy turning a corner economy is turning a corner because of these difficult decisions we've made or decisions that we've made or decisions that we've made or decisions have been decisions which have been opposed labour party opposed by the labour party every way. every single step of the way. but because those difficult but because of those difficult decisions, able to do decisions, we've been able to do things we did the autumn things like we did at the autumn statement of weeks ago, statement a couple of weeks ago, reducing businesses reducing taxes on businesses and reducing taxes on businesses and reducing working people reducing taxes on working people so focus on growth now so we can focus on growth now and growing the economy . and growing the economy. >> 8 million households will get a cost of living payment in february to help with their bills. those who were eligible will receive the £299 payment directly into their bank accounts without needing to make accounts without needing to make a claim. it will be the last of three instalments, totalling £900 to be paid within a year. delegates have agreed to move away from fossil fuels for the first time at the cop 28 summit in dubai in a historic agreement, governments will transition away from fossil fuels to avert the worst effects of climate change, but not phase

them out. the deal recognises them out. the deal recognises the need to avoid temperature rising by 1.5 degrees. meanwhile climate columnist at the independent duncan mccarthy called out government hypocrisy . called out government hypocrisy. >> i think the real hypocrisy thatis >> i think the real hypocrisy that is actually the government's position on flying period. their response to this issue yesterday was the government doesn't care about flying. well, we absolutely must care about flying because the carbon emissions are staggering . carbon emissions are staggering. the three private jets that the government, prime minister and the two ministers took to the opening of cob, they would take a working class family of 140 years of turning off all their electricity to make up the pollution from it. >> the uk is unprepared for a ransomware attack amid a lack of government investment . that's government investment. that's according to a new report. parliament's joint committee on the national security strategy says the uk could be brought to a standstill at any time unless major changes to planning and

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now back to andrew and. bev >> very good morning. it's 1107. >> very good morning. it's1107. do you feel ready for christmas, by the way? >> no, not yet. >> no, not yet. >> no, not yet. >> no, me neither. not remotely. not bought one present and i just saying when say the just keep saying when we say the dates, 13th and then i dates, it's the 13th and then i slightly panic. >> put any christmas >> i haven't put any christmas decorations . decorations out either. >> get tree >> i will manage to get my tree up. well, had some friends >> well, i had some friends around to welcome my son home from his travels the weekend, from his travels at the weekend, so the tree but so we. i got the tree up, but i hadnt so we. i got the tree up, but i hadn't managed to put single hadn't managed to put a single bauble time my bauble on them by the time my guests arrived. so basically the guests arrived. so basically the guests i handed guests arrived and i handed them a and did a tree for a box and they did a tree for me, which i thought was very good outsourcing right. let's see you've saying at see what you've been saying at home. why can't home. phyllis said, why can't somebody explain why france is not migrants? somebody explain why france is not a migrants? somebody explain why france is not a question migrants? somebody explain why france is not a question we migrants? somebody explain why france is not a question we hearrants? somebody explain why france is not a question we hear time’ somebody explain why france is not a question we hear time and it's a question we hear time and time again, isn't it? it's time again, isn't it? well, it's a good question. a very good question. >> italy. a very good question. >> it's italy. a very good question. >> it's what italy. a very good question. >> it's what whenevertaly. a very good question. >> it's what whenever i|ly. a very good question. >> it's what whenever i ask an immigrant because immigrant that question because i ask cab drivers that i regularly ask cab drivers that question always say, question and they always say, because or because we don't speak french or spanish, we speak english. we want to come because we want to come here because we speak want to come here because we speyeah, because a soft >> yeah, because we're a soft touch we them benefits >> yeah, because we're a soft toucwe we them benefits >> yeah, because we're a soft toucwe we in hem benefits

>> yeah, because we're a soft toucwe we in hotels. nefits >> yeah, because we're a soft toucwe we in hotels. they and we put them in hotels. they don't in hotels in don't put them in hotels in france. in campsite. france. they're in a campsite. >> yeah. they. >> yeah. aren't they. >> yeah. aren't they. >> mark calling >> yeah. mark says stop calling the migrants refugees. they're economic an economic migrants. rwanda is an embarrassment. work. >> e“ 9 said what >> annette has said what countries considered safe countries are considered safe these . we heard from our these days. we heard from our human rights lawyer earlier. he was saying that, you know, there will be people who will not get on plane to rwanda because on the plane to rwanda because they argue because they will argue because of their sexuality or their politics, they would not be safe in rwanda. obviously, if somebody from british government from the british government was here, say that's just here, they would say that's just resolutely that's resolutely not true and that's why choosing to why we're choosing to collaborate with that country. that moving on. that is moving on. >> and denmark also >> and denmark is also negotiating rwanda for to negotiating with rwanda for to deport refugees. denmark is a social democrat, liberal country i >> -- >> yeah, exam >> yeah, very good point . john >> yeah, very good point. john says, how can we quickly process people in this country who've dumped their documentation and who claim to come from somewhere that don't? no wonder that they don't? but no wonder the clogged yeah the system is clogged up. yeah well, we're going to talk get the latest on the politics because although rishi sunak had a pretty comfortable victory last night, it is a mere

temporary sticking plaster. >> talk to our political >> let's talk to our political edhoh >> let's talk to our political editor, chris hope, who's at college green in westminster. chris there will be relieved in number 10, of course. and it means a slightly calmer christmas for the prime minister and the cabinet. but how quickly does the problem come back ? does the problem come back? that's right. >> thank you, andrew. thank you, bev. yeah, they are not being too triumphal about this. i've been talking with a very senior member of the government in the last half an hour. they recognise that there's a lot to go on. there'll be there'll be a two day session house of two day session in the house of commons when they're going to be looking of looking at the detail of amendments they'll try and put forward. make sure forward. they need to make sure they go too far to the they don't go too far to the left and down the left and water down the legislation. equally. can't legislation. equally. they can't risk legislation. equally. they can't fisk the risk losing support from the left take in two of left if they take in two of these many these human these too many of these human rights. anti human rights rights. the anti human rights amendment. step amendment. it's just a step back, though. the source was saying to me a mission saying to me it was a mission critical moment for the government yesterday. there was a very real risk that labour would have put down a vote of no

confidence had the confidence else had the government last night. and government lost last night. and imagine would right imagine where we would be right now for this now in a crisis for this government with a vote probably tomorrow . that hasn't happened. tomorrow. that hasn't happened. so in a they have done so in a sense they have done well . here the so in a sense they have done well. here the whips so in a sense they have done well . here the whips office, the well. here the whips office, the 44 mp majority, is far more than many thought they would get, though pretty certain of those numbers by by lunchtime yesterday . they it all hangs, yesterday. they it all hangs, though, on whether they can make sure the right wingers don't try and amend then really and amend it and then really push away left. so it's more push away the left. so it's more to play for. but a quiet christmas now for the pm and he needs it. i think. >> christopher, thanks a lot. richard graham, conservative mp for the one nation caucus group and the mp for gloucester who voted for the bill, joins us now. good morning, richard . now. good morning, richard. first of all, would you just clarify for our viewers and our listeners, we hear about this one nation section of the conservative party. why are you different? how do you define your identity? we well , we've your identity? we well, we've got a whole list of values

which, you know, your listeners might or might not be that interested in. >> but the key thing is we're a group of over 100 mps with similar approaches to politics and we've been together for several years and we're not a particularly shouty, outspoken group, but we believe in in the quiet values of conservatism . quiet values of conservatism. and those are the ones which we try and see reflected in what the government is doing. >> you get characterised as the wet leftie lot, don't you? >> yeah, well, the idea that any of us are either wet or leftie is for the fairies, but if michael heseltine, if, if michael heseltine, if, if michael has the time was still an mp, he'd be. >> what part of your one nation group, wouldn't he. he's a terrible old, wet leftie. >> um, it's very difficult to try and translate personal ortiz from another age into today's politics, isn't it? michael was a very strong europhile. those don't exist any longer in politics because we've left the european union so it's difficult to know where he might be. but

he had lots of good things going for him, particularly on urban regeneration, which in my city of is incredibly of gloucester is incredibly important. so i think we should what we should try and do is appreciate the contributions of everyone within the conservative party. mp group, they party. whatever mp group, they happen to enjoy sitting in. >> richard, your the, your group says this bill is okay as far as it goes, but no more . so if the it goes, but no more. so if the bill is tightened, if, if it's tightened, particularly on appeals , are you then going to appeals, are you then going to withdraw your support ? not so . withdraw your support? not so. >> as with every bill, it's always possible that there are things that can be improved and the government might put down its amendments to so. its own amendments to do so. but those mostly details. where those are mostly details. where you're is that the you're right is that the principle, for example , of principle, for example, of individual access to justice is a very, very strong principle . a very, very strong principle. and if you showed a clip from geoffrey cox talking last night, your listeners would be no doubt as to why that's so important and many appeals, though, and how many appeals, though, because there's a formal lord

chief justice writing in one of the papers today, richard, saying one appeal, that's it. >> can't be having multiple appeals which keep the incredibly well paid human rights lobby of lawyers very happy. >> well, the great thing is with lawyers is that there are squillions of them and they have lots of different views. but most of the lawyers views that i've read, including respected former like jonathan former judges like jonathan sumption, are very clear that this drawn and this bill is tightly drawn and that that will rule out about 99.5% of anyone who thinks they might be able to launch an individual appeal. it will have to be on very specific issues. so, for example, if we were returning to rwanda , someone who returning to rwanda, someone who was a an asylum seeker from rwandan politics, they would probably have quite a strong case, but we wouldn't be doing that. we would be returning people from other countries. i mean, the most of the asylum seekers tend to be from places like iraq, iran, syria and so on.and

like iraq, iran, syria and so on. and they have no particular links to rwanda at all. so i think it's very unlikely that actually individuals will get clogged up in the legal system and be unable to be sent to rwanda for processing. i think that's fundamental , a red that's fundamental, a red herring. i think the important thing is to this bill done, thing is to get this bill done, get the flights going as soon as possible , and let's see how possible, and let's see how successful it can be. labour doesn't have policy on this at doesn't have a policy on this at all, by the way, and their claims this act as claims that this won't act as a deterrent, won't be to deterrent, we won't be able to send many people those send many people there. those are completely not true. are also completely not true. >> richard . we sent our home >> richard. we sent our home security editor, mark white oveh security editor, mark white over. i think he was in dover. was he? i can't remember where he was. he was basically one of the migrants waiting the camps with migrants waiting to dinghies . and he to get on the dinghies. and he asked whether was a asked them whether it was a deterrent and said no. so deterrent and they said no. so how did the government have so much confidence that flights leaving to rwanda will stop people trying to get to england, to the uk ? to the uk? >> well, of course you're never going to know completely until the policy is in place. but migrationwatch has said that they believe a very

they believe it will be a very strong so long as it's strong deterrent so long as it's used frequently and fast it, he that we get it moving pretty quickly . the point really pretty quickly. the point really is that you are from the is that if you are from the middle east and your family and your are clubbing your village are clubbing together a lot of money to pay for you to be trafficked over to the and you end up in east the uk and you end up in east africa. that wasn't the plan. that's not the objective. so i don't think the idea that it won't be a deterrent, i don't think is true. what we don't know is how much of deterrent know is how much of a deterrent it can i say as well? it will be. can i say as well? >> i mean, how many people realistically will be will be deported to rwanda if the plane start flying or the initial assessment was just in the low hundreds ? well, that's not much hundreds? well, that's not much of a deterrent, richard, is it? >> that was the sort of opposition point yesterday. but actually, if you look at rwanda, they've got i think they've processed about 320,000 asylum applications . the processed about 320,000 asylum applications. the unhcr has got 1700 libyans there already. so where this figure of 100 comes

from, god only knows, richard , from, god only knows, richard, why can't we process people more quickly so that we're not spending £1 billion every hundred days on housing? >> people in hotels ? >> people in hotels? >> people in hotels? >> well, we are, of course, because we've reduced that list from 90,000 to 26,000. and a lot of the hotels are being closed and the asylum seekers, many of them, of course, being given asylum, are being dispersed. and then become an issue for then they become an issue for local housing authorities, which is a different challenge if you like. but yeah, we are processing them much faster. so again , anything the opposition again, anything the opposition says about they would process these things much quicker with more that's already been more people. that's already been done. more people. that's already been done . but the tories are 20 done. but the tories are 20 points behind in the polls, richard. >> if they get this deal done , >> if they get this deal done, is that going to be a game changer for the conservatives ? changer for the conservatives? >> well, my reading of the latest poll was that we were 17 behind, but whether it's 15, 17, 20 or whatever that is a snapshot in time. i think this issue of stop the small boats is a matter of trust because the

government, the prime minister the party, we all made that promise that that's what we would try and do. we'd been very successful on reducing the numbers down a third already at a time when gone up by over a time when it's gone up by over 50% in many european countries. but people want to see much quicker and more progress. so that's we've got to pursue that's why we've got to pursue the rwanda safety bill as one aspect of the policy , get it aspect of the policy, get it done. and i think if we can show that we have made progress, show that we have made progress, show that we've taken the courts, that we've taken on the courts, the opposition, else the opposition, everyone else who couldn't work, even who said it couldn't work, even some then actually some of the media then actually people will begin to believe, okay, guys business okay, these guys mean business and they're delivering. okay >> right. you so much >> all right. thank you so much for us this morning. forjoining us this morning. richard graham there, conservative for gloucester . conservative mp for gloucester. i think british people i still think the british people have got their head in their hands this . hands over this. >> well, still think it's all >> well, i still think it's all they've got the table. that's they've got on the table. that's it. what have got? so it. what else have they got? so it's work and i it it's got to work and i hope it does now, to come , does work. now, still to come, we're going to be should you allow a reality allow to take part in a reality tv show, strictly come dancing, allow to take part in a reality tv show, got ctly come dancing, allow to take part in a reality tv show, got previousa dancing, allow to take part in a reality tv show, got previous danceing, if you've got previous dance experience in the west end, of

course, you shouldn't. that's why we're going be talking to why we're going to be talking to the contestant, ann the former contestant, ann widdecombe, the former contestant, ann widdher�*nbe, the former contestant, ann widdher dancing skills. with her dancing skills. she wasn't balletic .

isabel, monday to thursdays from six till 930 . 1122. >> you're with britain's newsroom, with gb news, with andrew pierce and bev turner. >> so our gb news presenter and i'm a celebrity star, nigel farage has arrived back at

heathrow airport. >> and of course, he had something to say. >> well, 23 nights in the jungle and by the end of it i was 20 years older than all the other contestants that left. so contestants that were left. so all i would say is the whole thing much more physical i thing was much more physical i could ever believe. even ferrying water, you ferrying buckets of water, you know, from the pump to the know, up from the pump to the camp, of that. so actually camp, all of that. so actually the it's the biggest the truth is it's the biggest detox i've ever been on. no tea, no coffee, no booze , lots of no coffee, no booze, lots of exercise. so i've kind of, you know, after 23 nights in there, i've left it in many ways fitter and stronger for that. i've probably been since i was at school. so, you know, there's a real upside to it looks well, doesn't it? >> i heard him talking about how much weight he's lost. did you hear much weight he's lost. did you haneah. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> well, course, he's not >> well, of course, he's not been and that diet. been drinking. and that diet. >> he's half stone, >> well, he's lost half a stone, which he said he thought he would lose more. >> said because he's put >> but he said because he's put on muscle is heavier on muscle and muscle is heavier than good for him than fat. so good for him and coming into the coming back to get back into the political i suspect. political fray, i suspect. >> absolutely. >> yeah, absolutely. >> yeah, absolutely. >> can't wait to hear >> it'd be i can't wait to hear what he's got to say about all

of bill business. of this. rwanda bill business. he's telly, on gb news, he's back on telly, on gb news, on monday. not tonight. we thought we'd give him a few days off to recover. >> stay tuned. now. strictly >> but stay tuned. now. strictly come contestant layton come dancing contestant layton williams has reached the final four show after four of the show after a standing ovation, perfect standing ovation, a perfect judges 40 weekend. judges score of 40 last weekend. >> the bad education star. >> the bad education star. >> what do you mean? i've never heard of it. sailed through, but not without controversy. as he was the fact that was criticised for the fact that his the world of his experience in the world of musical theatre already so is it fair to on fair for contestants to be on the show when they've got a performing and performing arts background and this particular was this young man in particular was in billy elliot? >> about ballet and >> it's all about ballet and dancing. was also a dancing. and he was also a musical called something about jamie, there a of jamie, where there is a lot of dancing. ann dancing. well, let's ask ann widdecombe, was memorably in widdecombe, who was memorably in strictly dancing, so strictly come dancing, so memorable. there in the memorable. i was there in the audience cheering her on one year and ann widdecombe, morning to you . you were you to you. you were one. you weren't picked because of your dancing skills and because by your own admission , you're not your own admission, you're not a great dancer. but this bloke already can do all the can do it all already. so he's starting off with an unfair advantage ,

off with an unfair advantage, isn't he? oh every year we have this. >> we have, you know, so—and—so has got dance experience and it isn't fair . has got dance experience and it isn't fair. look, this is a dance program. if they started off with 15 people like me , it off with 15 people like me, it wouldn't be a dance program. you've got to have that whole range. you've got to have complete elephants like me. you've got to have people with you might actually learn to dance and you've got to have people who can already give a performance. there is nothing wrong with that at all. people should stop taking so should stop taking this so seriously . seriously. >> i love it. ann is free market all the way. even in a situation like this, if you've got the skills, to the table. skills, take it to the table. why but it's what's quite why not? but it's what's quite nice is nice about this program is watching the journey that people go this this guy is the go on this this guy who is the professional dancer already. i'm just trying to find his name again. i don't know what his name was. later layton williams. layton. gone on any layton. yes has he gone on any sort of journey on this series? i watched enough it i haven't watched enough of it to if he's better now to know if he's any better now than week one. than he was on week one. >> i haven't watched any of it,

so . 50. >> so. >> so we don't know . >> so we don't know. >> so we don't know. >> couldn't begin to tell you whether he's been on a journey. but another phrase i can but it's another phrase i can talk about . oh my strictly talk about. oh my strictly journey . and you know, and to journey. and you know, and to me, on one occasion he said, if we have any more journeys, we've got to complete odyssey. you know, it's a nonsense. and it was not a phrase i ever used. >> the by by your own admission, you said you didn't actually dance in the show, and yet you still got into the top you were in, i think you came eighth or ninth. you cheeky. >> and so i came well above that . i lasted ten out of the 12 weeks. wow pearce andrew pierce yes, indeed. >> was it was it was a minor miracle to most of us that you lasted so long an it was a major miracle for me , you know, i miracle for me, you know, i mean, i just could not believe that week after week when, you know, i couldn't do the steps. >> i can't hear music, so i couldn't keep to time . um, i

couldn't keep to time. um, i forgot this , that and the other forgot this, that and the other thing. on one memorable occasion and on even forgot something. and i just couldn't believe that week after week we came back. but of course it is because this isn't just a dance show. it's family entertainer and entertainer value. >> it's always an interesting one, isn't it? and when politicians do reality shows and we've just seen nigel do very well in the jungle, do you think it's done, nigel, any harm being in the jungle or any good or do you think most people still feel probably about how they did about nigel before he went in? >> i think it was done. anything. it's done good because it showed him to a lot of people as he is. you know, he's got a great sense of humour, muck in. he doesn't have any airs and graces and i think people will have warmed him. so i think if you say , has it done good or you say, has it done good or ill, it it's done much more ill, then it it's done much more good than ill. but you know, i don't actually think it's a serious contribution to

politics. and it wasn't intended to be. what did and a reality show . show. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> what do you make of the speculation and i think it is just that that he could he said never say never. he could do a deal never say never. he could do a deal. and form up with boris johnson in the conservative party. do you give that any credence at because i don't i >> -- >> so which one's going to be prime minister? well, quite just a complete nonsense. no i mean, you know, nigel farage left the conservative party, as i myself much later left the conservative party he has been fighting a cause for decades. he's not going to give up that cause just because he's been successful on a reality show. >> and while we've got you on talking rather frivolous matters about politics, we want to show you this little clip which has been created by a news website of several prominent mps, have a little look at this because reform uk, your party gets a mention. here we go .

mention. here we go. stay nice tories , if you've got stay nice tories, if you've got to go away and defect to reform uk , stay now won't you stay till uk, stay now won't you stay till polling day? >> stay now stay . >> stay now stay. >> stay now stay. >> what do you make of that with us? what do you make of that ? us? what do you make of that? >> well, many are true words spoken in jest. i mean, the fact is, you know, at the beginning of this year, we only had a few percent in the polls. now we're quite regularly at 10 or 11. one poll even gave us 12, you know, and where are the tories? they're round about 19. we'll catch them up. we'll catch them up.and catch them up. we'll catch them up. and at that point, at that point, it's no longer a question of, oh, can they damage the tories? it's, oh, can they take over from the tories? and for you personally, because you were a minister for many a tory mp and minister for many years, that be a matter of

years, would that be a matter of any regret that even though you're fully fledged in you're now fully fledged in reform uk yeah, i was heartbroken by what the conservatives descended into , conservatives descended into, but i did face up to facts and i faced the fact that they're not the party that i belong to for all those years . i mean, for 55 all those years. i mean, for 55 years in one way or another, i was serving the conservative party and course it was party and so of course it was a massive wrench. but i am convinced that they no longer care. they're not a party worthy of respect. they don't have the answers to the problems and nor does keir starmer, by the way. and we need a common sense party and that is what reform effectively is. it's a common sense party. >> we've only got 10s and. >> we've only got 10s and. >> but how long do reform need to make a serious risk pose a serious risk to the two major parties ? parties? >> oh, well, i've done it by the election in may. >> no , i still reckon october >> no, i still reckon october because if you're going to lose, you go later rather than sooner. okay wise as always. and lovely

to see you. >> the saintly ann widdecombe , >> the saintly ann widdecombe, as i call it, the saintly widders, right, right. >> still to come, fossil fuel furore. tensions have been high in dubai over the phrasing of the of fossil fuels that the future of fossil fuels that are much more after morning are much more after your morning news tatiana . news with tatiana. >> thank you very much. 1130. this is the latest some breaking news to bring you welsh first minister mark drakeford has announced he's stepping down and will resign in march next year. he said when i stood for election as leader of the welsh labouh election as leader of the welsh labour, i said i would stand down during the current senate term. that time has now come. he said that he hopes a new successor will be in place by easter next year. in some other breaking news, james bulger's killer, jon venables , has been killer, jon venables, has been denied parole with the panel ruling, he still poses a threat to the public. he murdered the toddler when he was ten years

old in 1993. venables was released on licence in july 2001 and recalled to prison in 2010 after indecent images of children were found on his computer . he children were found on his computer. he tory rebels children were found on his computer . he tory rebels have computer. he tory rebels have warned they will vote against the draft rwanda law when it returns to the commons in the new year unless it's amended. mps backed the bill with a majority of 44. no tory member voted against it, but 38 abstained, which is enough to vote the legislation down at the next reading. rebels say they want to ensure asylum seekers can be deported to rwanda before the next election . and the uk the next election. and the uk economy contracted faster than expected, with office for national statistics data showing a nought point 3% fall in october, all three main sectors fell into negative territory for the first time since july , with the first time since july, with services the biggest driver of the downturn. manufacturing and construction was affected by poor weather. for more on all of

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that i knew had dewbs& co weeknights from . weeknights from. six 737. >> we're going to go straight to westminster with chris hope, our political editor who's there in downing street. chris andrew and bev. >> i'm joined now by sir geoffrey cox, the former attorney general, with some words of wisdom for the party from last night. words of wisdom for the party from last night . sir geoffrey

from last night. sir geoffrey cox, what's your advice to members of the tory right as they seek to amend the rwanda bill next month? i think there are areas where we could certainly examine the wording of the bill, but i think we can at fundamentally alter its structure. >> i think that the structure is carefully calculated to make minimise the prospects of it getting through the house of lords and surviving in the courts. >> will it get through the lords? that's the next big battle. if they can get through the amendment stage in the commons to the lords by february. they try and february. but will they try and reject could that delay reject it? and could that delay flights may? flights taking off in may? >> that's of course >> well, that's of course a matter for those who will consider it in the other house. what i would that the what i would say is that the majorities shown that there is a strong will in the democratically elected house for this bill to pass. democratically elected house for this bill to pass . of course, this bill to pass. of course, the house of lords will consider amendments and the house of commons will consider them duly. but i hope in due course the

second house will act, to according democratic legitimacy, which is to pass it. >> they can reject it once , >> they can reject it once, can't they? and that would be months of delays . a second time months of delays. a second time would parliament act would be parliament act territory, a one year delay. there is risk here, isn't there? >> there is clearly a risk. >> yes, there is clearly a risk. i think the problem i think i think the problem and i think and i hope those in the other place will reflect very carefully, is that if this bill is not allowed to pass substantially as it is, there will be a growing momentum for something that i personally would regret and be reluctant to contemplate, which would be withdrawal from the european convention on human rights. we are looking at a situation where the democratic house has already asserted in a quite muscular fashion in its concept of its sovereignty and i think we need to reflect very carefully before for its democratic will is frustrated . so because of the frustrated. so because of the

implications on the issue of echr withdrawal, then pulling out of the european court of human rights could be a big one at the next election for many on the right, it's unfinished business from brexit. >> you're a brexiteer, of course you the attorney general you are the attorney general dunng you are the attorney general during theresa may's time. what's your advice to your colleagues? i've never colleagues? well i've never considered that the european convention on human rights has some sacred status . some kind of sacred status. >> i mean, i consistently on record as having advocated a british bill of rights for many years , i would be reluctant to years, i would be reluctant to reach the conclusion because of the complex nations that surround it with the good friday agreement. but but i think the momentum will be erased . momentum will be erased. a—stable if this bill is frustrated and impeded in the house of lords or elsewhere , and house of lords or elsewhere, and your advice to mr sunak this christmas? >> rishi sunak he's he's got past a big hurdle. i mean , i've past a big hurdle. i mean, i've been told by senior figures in the government that it was mission critical yesterday . they mission critical yesterday. they were they were expecting a vote of confidence labour had of no confidence from labour had they night .

they lost last night. >> i think this is a this >> yes. i think this is a this is a success for the prime minister but i think we need to come together a conservative come together as a conservative party we agree on fundamental principles and unite behind a particular version of this bill. thatis particular version of this bill. that is critical because divisions will be punished . and divisions will be punished. and as a united party, we can go into the next election but disunited. we will be severely punished. just finally , sir punished. just finally, sir geoffrey cox, you're an eminent barrister , a very senior barrister, a very senior barrister, a very senior barrister, if i may say so . barrister, if i may say so. >> so, senior, what are the odds on flights taking off with migrants in the spring in may, as the pm has promised ? as the pm has promised? >> i would put it at slightly higher than evens . higher than evens. >> well, there you have it. andrew and bev slightly higher than evens. but geoffrey cox with a warning. i think for the house lords, if they mess house of lords, if they mess with this bill once it gets to the commons, we could be facing withdrawal rights withdrawal of the human rights act echr at the election act of the echr at the election as a campaign issue next year. back to you. thank you,

christopher. >> we got to lots of breaking news, one about gary lineker. we're going to talk about in a moment, also james bulger's moment, but also james bulger's killer, venables , has been killer, jon venables, has been denied with the panel denied parole with the panel ruling that he still poses poses a to the public. he a threat to the public. he murdered the toddler when he was ten years old 1993. of course ten years old in 1993. of course , you are very relieved about this because he's been back in prison twice for engaging in paedophile acts. >> and i'm afraid i think there is evidence that you can't cure a paedophile and of course, and he's a menace to children and there was controversy around this recently because the parents of jamie bulger wanted to the parole hearing and parents of jamie bulger wanted to denied parole hearing and parents of jamie bulger wanted to denied access hearing and parents of jamie bulger wanted to denied access he.that. and were denied access to that. >> they will also very >> they will also be very relieved this morning. right. we're joined back in the studio again by former labour mp and general maker stephen general mischief maker stephen pound director of the common pound and director of the common sense society and the right kind of rebel that we like. emma webb right . let's talk about this. right. let's talk about this. gary lineker story that i just mentioned. so a new bbc director, his name shah sami

shah.thank director, his name shah sami shah. thank you. sami shah. >> he's the chairman. >> he's the chairman. >> the new chairman. sorry yeah, i've just sacked tim davie for a moment then. yeah. so he's been giving a statement . giving a statement. >> he's been giving a statement this to the house of this morning to the house of commons sport commons culture, media and sport select committee , and he said select committee, and he said that gary lineker's tweet quite clearly breaches the bbc social media code. >> this could be the end of it for gary. >> and incidentally, just before we move on to that, on the venables isn't venables thing, isn't it interesting thompson, interesting that thompson, the other actually other person, has actually he's actually a and actually now living a good and safe life, life completely . safe life, his life completely. so actually be so you can actually be rehabilitated . and i don't think rehabilitated. and i don't think we forget that as as bell. >> but listen, but this boy has been backing venables, who's been backing venables, who's been prison twice for been back into prison twice for the well, he's a wrong'un. >> well, he's a wrong'un. i don't there's don't think there's any question. look on question. but look on this, on this thing, i mean, this gary lineker thing, i mean, the he's rubbing this gary lineker thing, i mean, the on he's rubbing this gary lineker thing, i mean, the on 1.35 he's rubbing this gary lineker thing, i mean, the on 1.35 million|bbing this gary lineker thing, i mean, the on 1.35 million a:)ing this gary lineker thing, i mean, the on 1.35 million a year. it along on 1.35 million a year. it can't be easy. and yet he's now facing the possibility of losing that. but in all honesty, he's punching this man. punching the bruise on this man. he's and pushing he's pushing and pushing and pushing. chairman of pushing. and if the chairman of the board has now said, i'm sorry, breaches sorry, you know, that breaches the it has to

the guidelines, then it has to be ended. >> well, let's what he said. >> well, let's see what he said. so this is what he's breached the an mp, the guidelines about. so an mp, jonathan , he tweeted the guidelines about. so an mp, joneyetn , he tweeted the guidelines about. so an mp, joneyet another , he tweeted the guidelines about. so an mp, joneyet another breach eeted the guidelines about. so an mp, joneyet another breach of :ed the guidelines about. so an mp, joneyet another breach of the say yet another breach of the bbc's impartiality rules by gary lineker, sadly spineless. lineker, but sadly spineless. tim davie will do nothing about it. surrendered it. having surrendered to lineker gary lineker lineker previously, gary lineker retweeted, so he reposted that quote and he said, jonathan hasn't read the new guidelines. or i say, had someone or should i say, had someone read them to him. emma now this really clearly comes contradicts section 4.2 of the bbc social media rules which say do not criticise the character of individual politicians in the uk . he's a playground. he's got to be done for surely he's just a playground brat. >> this is like childish behaviour. if anything. i mean, he's being set aside. the partiality rules, he's being childish and unprofessional, but you know, i mean it's no surprise gary lineker is pushing his luck. he thinks he's god's gift. >> well, he got away with it last time, didn't he? >> stephen says they blinked . >> stephen says they blinked. they took him off air then >> stephen says they blinked. the'himyk him off air then >> stephen says they blinked. the'him back] off air then >> stephen says they blinked. the'him back onf air then >> stephen says they blinked. the'him back on air r then >> stephen says they blinked. the'him back on air when then >> stephen says they blinked.

the'him back on air when other presenters. >> so, i mean, who should be surprised now pushing surprised that he's now pushing his the guy's his luck again? the guy's completely the completely politicised. so the bbc decide like, bbc have to decide like, of course, everybody should course, i think everybody should be to opinion. be entitled to their opinion. but the bbc wants to have impartiality rules that are applied, impartial to all of its staff if they want to have gary lineker on their staff, they have to be consistent. >> so he's critical. and remember what happened to carol vorderman. critical vorderman. she was very critical of and booted of tory mps and she was booted off radio radio show off her radio wales radio show small off her radio wales radio show sm yeah, but she wants to get >> yeah, but she wants to get i'm sure, from the i'm not entirely sure, from the labour party. >> gary lineker actually brings to here because to the table here because shearer murphy lineker, shearer and murphy and lineker, it's saturday it's become a sort of a saturday night. there's nothing exciting there. yeah, but i mean, you know, he was a good know, okay, he was a good footballer. he never red footballer. he never got red carded. know, he's very, carded. you know, he's very, very but i'm not very good player. but i'm not entirely that he has entirely sure that he has a unique to actually speak unique ability to actually speak to any nation. >> and yet pay this money. >> and yet we pay this money. what what we what do we know about what do we know samachar, know about samachar, the new incoming chairman bbc, incoming chairman of the bbc, and he be the one that and why might he be the one that would take seriously? would take this seriously? >> very seasoned >> he's a very seasoned broadcaster the bbc, broadcaster and he at the bbc, he head of current affairs. he was head of current affairs. so all across about the

so he's all across about the news agenda. absolutely. and why presenters and reporters should not view in public. not have a view in public. >> i mean, after martin bashir, after brand, the bbc has after russell brand, the bbc has to get its house in order because at the moment they've actually with an actually got away with an increase the licence fee. increase in the licence fee. okay. not as much as want. okay. not as much as they want. well it's not just well yeah, it's also not just gary who's been pushing well yeah, it's also not just garluck who's been pushing well yeah, it's also not just garluck. who's been pushing his luck. >> there been all sorts of >> there have been all sorts of things, since things, particularly since october 7th they're october 7th and they're reporting israel. yeah not reporting on israel. yeah not least to call least their inability to call hamas a terrorist organisation even though it's prescribed refusal and the like. i say gary lineker is not the only one. and there have been lots of instances of obvious bbc bias over the last couple of months , over the last couple of months, and that is on top of all of the demonstrable evidence of bbc bias going back for years, the bbc can't pretend to be truly impartial and maybe this guy wants to try and raise standards and try to get the bbc's reputation back as being a truly objective broadcaster. but the

reality is that the british pubuci reality is that the british public i don't think that the british public trust the bbc at all. and that's why gary lineker is just a symptom of that, because in a is because they he, in a way, is a creature bbc. creature of the bbc. >> that's why so many people >> and that's why so many people now refusing pay the now are refusing to pay the licence yeah. licence fee. yeah. >> an increasing but licence fee. yeah. >> reality increasing but licence fee. yeah. >> reality waseasing but licence fee. yeah. >> reality was that|g but licence fee. yeah. >> reality was that when but licence fee. yeah. >> reality was that when i, but licence fee. yeah. >> reality was that when i, i but the reality was that when i, i was much, much older than everybody here, but as a young man, bbc had an utter total man, the bbc had an utter total monopoly . i man, the bbc had an utter total monopoly. i think you had two television then three television channels, then three later didn't any later on you didn't have any choice. nowadays look where we are today. >> look where we are. >> i know. look where we are. yeah. and on that beauty point, beautiful point. stephen. right. we've to move on. still to we've got to move on. still to come, keir starmer takes on rishi at pmqs at midday. rishi sunak at pmqs at midday. stay with us for the build up and that's more and lots of stuff that's more interesting than that. stephen pound, webb , don't pound, emma webb, don't go anywhere . anywhere. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar , the sponsors of weather solar, the sponsors of weather on . gb news. on. gb news. >> hello again. welcome to your latest gb news weather update from the met office. we'll stay

dry and clear for many through the rest of the day, but it will be feeling very cold and as a result there are some snow and ice force for ice warnings in force for thursday morning. we're going to be snow being be seeing some snow being brought by this cold front along nonh brought by this cold front along north through north eastern coast through the rest of the and tomorrow and rest of the day and tomorrow and then some further rain and potentially snow across the southwest later . so as that rain southwest later. so as that rain across the southwest moves northwards and bumps into the colder air, it could start to bnng colder air, it could start to bring to the high bring some snow to the high ground of devon and cornwall. bring some snow to the high groun showerson and cornwall. bring some snow to the high groun showers across cornwall. bring some snow to the high groun showers across the nwall. snow showers across the northeast, northern northeast, as well as northern ireland will bring a risk of some icy stretches by thursday morning. widely though, it's going to be a very cold start to thursday, we could be as low thursday, as we could be as low as minus eight in rural areas of scotland and north—west england . scotland and north—west england. so very cold start to the day, so a very cold start to the day, but sunshine to be had in but some sunshine to be had in similar areas where we'll it similar areas where we'll see it through today. parts of northern ireland and much of northern and western in the south, western england in the south, though, it will stay cloudier with that potentially with that rain and potentially hill persisting through hill snow persisting through much of the day. there'll be

another temperatures another cold day. temperatures only reaching 4 or 5 degrees for many of us across the north. far north of scotland. it's going to be windy, so it will feel chillier up here and on friday morning it will be another very cold start. we could see some freezing fog across southeastern areas . so freezing fog across southeastern areas. so that will bring a bit of murky start. there'll be of a murky start. there'll be some sunshine on some more sunshine around on saturday day. and then on sunday, see the sunday, we could see the temperatures finally starting to rise a little. >> looks like things are heating up . boxt boilers sponsor of up. boxt boilers sponsor of weather on .

gb news. >> very good morning. it's 1152. >> very good morning. it's1152. rishi sunak takes on sir keir starmer in roughly seven minutes. >> i nearly said roughly . >> i nearly said roughly. >> i nearly said roughly. >> rishi sunak takes on keir starmer roughly in seven minutes. >> couldn't punch his way out of a paper bag. >> well, here for the build up is stephen pound and emma webb, who couldn't punch their way . which. >> who are you? >> who are you? >> on rishi sunak could not knock the skin off rice knock the skin off a rice pudding. >> no. >> could he? no. >> could he? no. >> well, he we could >> well, he could. we could knockit >> well, he could. we could knock it off with keir starmer. he's commons. oh, he's useless in the commons. oh, he's useless. he's useless in the commons. oh, he"20;eless. he's useless in the commons. oh, he"20 points ahead in the polls. >> 20 points ahead in the polls. yeah that's because the tories have incompetent. i'll have been so incompetent. i'll quote well, quote you on that. yeah, well, that's it? that's great, isn't it? >> actually this won't >> i think actually this won't go for rishi because go as badly for rishi because the line back to keir starmer is what's proposal ? sunshine what's your proposal? sunshine for rwanda plan for rwanda .

for the rwanda plan for rwanda. i haven't one. i haven't got one. >> we have. as you know. how >> no, we have. as you know. how many times have gone through many times have we gone through this, processing this, you know, processing at the entry is what we the point of entry is what we did in 2006, two thousand and seven, 20% seven, when we had less than 20% of of illegal immigrants. >> when you were allowed hundreds surge in hundreds of thousands surge in from europe. from eastern europe. but it surely be. eastern from eastern europe. but it surely shouldn't3e. eastern from eastern europe. but it surely shouldn't be eastern from eastern europe. but it surely shouldn't be processing europe shouldn't be processing at point entry. at the point of entry. >> should be processing in >> it should be processing in their country online, their home country online, and then a decision. then we can make a decision. >> iran north korea, yes, but >> iran in north korea, yes, but no, but i hear you. >> but but the but the afghans and some of the syrians, they they to a western european they get to a western european nafion they get to a western european nation and then they continue on. why don't they get their and then to apply have a then be able to apply have a processing centre in amman in jordan. >> so i used to deal with a huge number from who number of cases from syria who could asylum syria. could not claim asylum in syria. they amman through the they go to amman through the united nations and we have the refugee it united nations and we have the refugexist, it united nations and we have the refugexist, but it united nations and we have the refugexist, but for it united nations and we have the refugexist, but for some it united nations and we have the refugexist, but for some reason does exist, but for some reason we just don't push in we just don't push it in this country. seem country. we don't seem to cooperate. i wouldn't cooperate. i mean, i wouldn't i wouldn't betting that wouldn't mind betting that a lot of regardless of of these people, regardless of where processing was, where the processing centre was, would the would still come over the channel >> f- e are criminal channel >> are criminal gangs >> and these are criminal gangs who people who are operating people trafficking networks like

they're still going to want to come the channel and even come over the channel and even if process them if you did process them elsewhere, going to elsewhere, you're still going to have here. and have people coming here. and we need have system that need to have a legal system that allows us to deport people who shouldn't be country. shouldn't be in our country. otherwise, sovereign otherwise, we're not a sovereign nation. have any nation. we don't have any control borders. and nation. we don't have any contcannot borders. and nation. we don't have any contcannot ayrders. and nation. we don't have any contcannot a democratic you cannot have a democratic country you are not sovereign country if you are not sovereign over your secure country . over your secure country. >> you cannot have national security you have no say in security if you have no say in the people that coming to the people that are coming to the people that are coming to the country. until 1906, the country. and up until 1906, there immigration control there was no immigration control whatsoever. anybody could just come wanted. come in whenever they wanted. and why we actually and the reason why we actually brought controls brought in immigration controls was and was because of anarchists and revolutions and people at that time. >> but you see, i think most people would be happy in this country to take a few thousand thousand asylum seekers, genuine refugees, families, young children who are in war torn countries and have less legal immigration and bring that number down. well, we've done that with ukrainians. >> look at all the ukrainians that we've housed in this country. people from country. look at the people from right, people right, look at the kenya people are tories elected in are good. the tories elected in 1973. have a good 1973. we do have a good reputation, but we will be

reputation, but we will not be taking mickey taken out of taking the mickey taken out of us moment. people us at the moment. people have actually taken. actually well, they've taken. oh, going to oh, forgive me. i was going to say rude, but, you say something rude, but, you know, absolutely know, people are just absolutely taking name. know, people are just absolutely tak yeah, name. know, people are just absolutely tak yeah, yeah name. know, people are just absolutely tak yeah, yeah .1ame. know, people are just absolutely tak yeah, yeah . emma. >> yeah, yeah. emma. >> yeah, yeah. emma. >> the whole situation is a >> but the whole situation is a joke. actually the fact that joke. and actually the fact that it's it's it's a sick joke have it's a very unfunny joke. the fact that we, you know, this is not this is not just about illegal immigration. about immigration. it's also about legal and legal immigration. and the conservatives out conservatives haven't sorted out and there's no real excuse for that. there's just been a lack of political will out there. and now that they're realising that their being put the their feet are being put to the fire because facing fire because they're facing a general general election defeat , general general election defeat, that actually do have to general general election defeat, thata actually do have to general general election defeat, thata handlejally do have to general general election defeat, thata handlejally do but; to general general election defeat, thata handlejally do but the get a handle on this. but the reality is actually, i do think that this is not it's not just about this about about security. this is about democracy because democracy requires trust . right? and if requires trust. right? and if you society that is post you have a society that is post tony blair where the doors were flung open , whether it was open flung open, whether it was open to the rest the world or open to the rest of the world or open to the rest of the world or open to european if you to the european union, if you have such a transient community, you have communities that are being so disrupted mass being so disrupted by mass migration unprecedented migration on an unprecedented scales, cannot have the

scales, you cannot have the social cohesion that makes a proper functioning democracy possible. and we are seeing the fruits of now . and, you fruits of this now. and, you know, outrageous that all know, it's outrageous that all of this has happened on a conservative government's watch. >> , elected there >> well, i mean, elected there are certain constituencies in this now which this country now which are monocultural , and you will monocultural, and you will actually see the impact of that. i mean, particularly at the present time with losing present time with labour losing a there a by—election in the and there was more i don't was some stunning more i don't know read andrew pearce's know if you read andrew pearce's piece the but it's the piece in the mail, but it's the only who seemed to picked only person who seemed to picked up actually up on it the labour actually lost a pro palestinian lost it to a pro palestinian council candidate. so this this will but look, the will change. but look, the reality we do have reality is that we do have a good reputation and we have done things the past and i'd things right in the past and i'd like these in this like to see these people in this country but we've like to see these people in this countr actually but we've like to see these people in this countr actually say but we've like to see these people in this countr actually say wet we've like to see these people in this countr actually say we aree've got to actually say we are simply not the softest of soft touches. it is not are . well, at touches. it is not are. well, at the that's the moment. that's the impression that we get and it keeps coming back to the flipping office and that flipping home office and that we've got to get the home. if we spent fraction of the money spent a fraction of the money that we've rwanda, that we've given to rwanda, let's to tom and let's just go over to tom and emily and see what's going to be

coming emily and see what's going to be con good afternoon, britain. >> good afternoon, britain. hello. >> good afternoon, britain. helwell, of course, we're >> well, of course, we're looking forward to prime minister's questions. do have minister's questions. i do have a custard with a pack of custard creams with which eating as we which i'll be eating as we digest what going on between digest what is going on between rishi sunak and keir starmer. is rishi sunak and keir starmer. is rishi standing tall after rishi sunak standing tall after his victory last night or is he going to be whittled down by the potential of rebellion? >> finally be game >> and could it finally be game over for gary lineker at the bbc? he's been hot in hot water time after time after time . and time after time after time. and now there's another egregious tweet and a candidate for chairman, next, chairman of the bbc has said that it does not meet the guidelines . meet the guidelines. >> okay. thank you both. sounds good.i >> okay. thank you both. sounds good. i can't believe emily didn't say is it a red card for gary lineker, the first the first in his career because he never hit one, i think. >> yeah, exactly. and he was playing for leicester. >> it would be goodbye and good riddance to gary lineker. for me, i a lot of people me, i think a lot of people won't notice, but i bet he's probably feeling bit bitter probably feeling a bit bitter that podcast. that he doesn't have a podcast. >> not famous. oh, he >> he's not as famous. oh, he does podcast. he listens does have a podcast. he listens to it.

>> well, ml! m on there talking >> well, he was on there talking about exact situation, not about this exact situation, not only to say what he only is he free to say what he says twitter, he goes says on twitter, he then goes on his talks about his podcast and then talks about it on podcast. it on his podcast. >> be right. got >> he'll be all right. he's got is it gold anger productions, the podcast. they make of the podcast. they make a load of fantastic podcasts, including the walkers the rest is history mr walkers crisps. right. and crisps. he'll be all right. and i honestly ain't going to i and i honestly ain't going to stop . stop. >> i do feel like he knows that his bbc is coming his time at the bbc is coming to an and wants them to sack an end and he wants them to sack him. wonder if goes him. you do wonder if he goes out in a blaze of almost death. >> wish. really? yeah. my >> wish. really? yeah. here's my chin. a death wish. chin. it's not a death wish. >> a martyrdom he >> it's a martyrdom wish. he wants a free wants to be seen as a free speech martyr being dragged out of house. speech martyr being dragged out of echoes use. speech martyr being dragged out of echoes ofz. speech martyr being dragged out of echoes of suella braverman >> echoes of suella braverman here, home secretary, here, the former home secretary, was she not angling be fired was she not angling to be fired so be the martyr on so she could be the martyr on the backbenches longing it? the backbenches longing for it? >> how he'd ever thought. >> imagine how popular he's going though. all going to be, though. all of those dinner going to be, though. all of those oh, dinner going to be, though. all of those oh, yes. dinner parties. oh, yes. >> but who'd have thought you'd get gary get suella braverman and gary lineker in the same venn diagram in of any sort of cultural discussion. >> so the thought overlap >> so the thought of overlap slightly we're slightly what a world we're living would replace living in and who would replace him commentator? him as football commentator? >> anything >> not that i know anything about it.

>> well, news an >> well, gb news has an extremely good football coil who's we do was who's excellent. we do who was referred letters page referred to on the letters page of daily telegraph. referred to on the letters page of people y telegraph. referred to on the letters page of people said egraph. referred to on the letters page of people said you ph. referred to on the letters page of people said you could get >> people said you could get paul for a lot less paul for probably a lot less money. awful lot less money. money. an awful lot less money. >> so we're about two minutes away from. rishi sunak, rishi sunak, he's just arrived in the chamber facing off. >> sir keir starmer here they are . are. >> interesting. he's sitting next to home secretary . next to the home secretary. that's all. show of support for the home secretary. and, of course, night course, rishi sunak last night warmly the chief whip, warmly embraced the chief whip, simon hart, because not a single tory voted against ryan. he's tory mp voted against ryan. he's smiling and looking very chirpy. it's not going to last, is it? because january february because in january and february it'll back to bite him. it'll come back to bite him. >> and as you said, andrew will be marginalised. i think it will be. that's my of the be. that's my word of the morning. that that bill morning. i think that that bill will marbleised terms will be marbleised in terms of rwanda . where that rwanda. and where does that leave british people wanting leave the british people wanting to stopped? so to see the boats stopped? so where that leave people to see the boats stopped? so whe|want that leave people to see the boats stopped? so whe|want that leover? people who want to come over? >> frustrated? >> frustrated? >> yeah . >> frustrated? >> ieah . it says to me when >> i mean, it says to me when the boats coming across, it the boats keep coming across, it just a government impotent. >> sends its also about >> well, it sends its also about geopolitics. we're facing a more

multipolar geopolitical situation. and the message this sends to other countries is that britain is a doormat. we're a walkover, we're mugged. we are. and you can get you can get away with walking all over us and we'll be totally impotent and unable anything because we'll be totally impotent and unablin anything because we'll be totally impotent and unablin a anything because we'll be totally impotent and unablin a politicaling because we'll be totally impotent and unablin a political state acause we'll be totally impotent and unablin a political state of use we're in a political state of paralysis. and you can terrible message we don't have message as long as we don't have the biometric digital id system coming the horizon, you can coming over the horizon, you can see that. >> e“- see that. >> sadly, they're not >> anyway, sadly, they're not calling minister. calling the prime minister. >> handing over now >> so we're handing over now to tom and . emily as as is the last tom and. emily as as is the last as the last prime minister's question before recess. >> i know the whole house will want to join me in wishing you and all the house staff a very merry christmas happy new yeah >> and i know members will also want to join me in sending our warmest wishes to our armed forces, home and forces, both at home and stationed overseas. >> and our emergency services and those who will be and all those who will be working christmas to . and working over christmas to. and finally, i know everyone will