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news with ray addison. >> thanks, nana. good afternoon. coming up to 3:01, our top stories this hour. rishi sunak has told a crowd in rome that there's nothing conservative about allowing a country's sovereignty to be violated. he's in italy, meeting prime minister giorgia meloni to discuss ways to tackle illegal migration. he says that both he and the italian leader are committed to breaking the business models of people smugglers. today's meeting comes a day after 292 migrants crossed the english channelin migrants crossed the english channel in seven small boats. that brings the total so far this year to 29,500 pound. the pm says it's now more important than ever to tackle illegal migration. >> if we do not tackle this problem, the numbers will only grow. it will overwhelm our countries and our capacity to help those who actually need our help those who actually need our help the most . the cost of help the most. the cost of accommodating these people will anger our citizens , who won't anger our citizens, who won't understand why their money

should have to be spent on deaung should have to be spent on dealing with the consequences of this evil trade. it will destroy the public's faith , not just in the public's faith, not just in us as politicians , but in our us as politicians, but in our very systems of government . very systems of government. >> a royal navy destroyer has shot down a suspected attack drone targeting merchant shipping in the red sea defence secretary grant shapps says that hms diamond hit the target overnight with a sea viper missile . the ship recently missile. the ship recently arrived in the region as part of efforts to increase maritime security . an idf official says security. an idf official says israeli hostages mistakenly killed in gaza had been holding up a white flag . israel's up a white flag. israel's military says troops opened fire after yotam haim , samar after yotam haim, samar tallywhacker and alon shamriz were misidentified as a threat . were misidentified as a threat. the men had all been kidnapped by hamas on the 7th of october. the idf has promised full transparency while they investigate . what the investigate. what the metropolitan police says. it

will carefully consider a civil judgement handed down yesterday , judgement handed down yesterday, which found that prince harry was the victim of phone hacking . was the victim of phone hacking. the high court found that extensive phone hacking had taken place at the mirror group newspapers over several years. prince harry described the result as great for truth and accountability. the met says that while it will consider the ruling, there is no on going investigation . british schoolboy investigation. british schoolboy alex batty, who went missing six years ago in spain, is expected to return to the uk today . the to return to the uk today. the 17 year old was just 11 when he vanished with his mother and his grandfather. he was found on thursday in france after leaving the spiritual commune where he had been living with his mum. alex's grandmother , who has alex's grandmother, who has legal custody , says she can't legal custody, says she can't wait for them to be reunited . wait for them to be reunited. well, the pm has paid tribute to the emir of kuwait, sheikh nawaf, who has died at the age of 86. rishi sunak described him

as a great great friend of the uk who'll be remembered fondly for his work to promote stability in the middle east. he was defence minister when iraq invaded the country in 1990. he became ruler of the small oil rich state in 2020, working to ease political deadlock and promote national unity . it's promote national unity. it's more international news and donald trump's former lawyer, rudy giuliani is to appeal after being ordered to pay more than £116 million for defaming two women. giuliani claimed that surveillance footage showed two election workers wandrea shaye moss and her mother , ruby moss and her mother, ruby freeman, concealing and counting suitcases filled with illegal ballots . they received a deluge ballots. they received a deluge of racist messages as a result, including threats of lynching, and they were forced to relocate giuliani falsely claimed that he'd been blocked from presenting his own evidence and described the payout as absurd . described the payout as absurd. police have released cctv images

of three men wanted for questioning after graffiti relating to the israel—hamas conflict was sprayed onto an mps office. the constituency office office. the constituency office of feryal clark, who's the mp for enfield north, was vandalised last month. police say they've examined the footage from the local area and are appealing for anyone with information on the men to contact them . the rac says that contact them. the rac says that petrol prices have fallen to their lowest level in more than two years. a litre of unleaded now costs an average of around 140 £0.02. that's a price not seen since the end of october 2021. however, diesel prices have not gone down the news comes during one of the busiest times of year on the roads. experts are saying that prices could continue to fall steadily every day in the run up to christmas . and finally , vaping christmas. and finally, vaping products were the fastest growing grocery category this year , reaching almost £900 year, reaching almost £900 million in sales, according to

data from nick and the grocer. it's the second year in a row that they've topped industry lists . that's despite the pm lists. that's despite the pm saying that the government would act to kerb vaping among young people. meanwhile, purchases of cigarettes, cigars and loose tobacco have all fallen sharply . tobacco have all fallen sharply. this is gb news across the uk on tv , in your car, on digital tv, in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news. now let's get straight back to . nana. >> hello and welcome to gbillionews. coming up, an idf official says that israeli hostages mistakenly killed in gaza had been holding up a white flag . in just gaza had been holding up a white flag. in just a gaza had been holding up a white flag . in just a moment, gaza had been holding up a white flag. in just a moment, i'll be speaking to the international security and border control expert henry bolton , on what expert henry bolton, on what this means for the war between israel hamas. 320, it's israel and hamas. at 320, it's time climate control. i'm time for climate control. i'm asking, has cop 28 been a

success or a failure after the president dropped the phasing out of fossil fuels and is phasing out of fossil fuels? even the right thing to do and chair of republicans overseas, greg svenson, is the political spotlight week , we'll be spotlight this week, we'll be talking about the tensions ahead of the future election as of the future us election as president donald trump reportedly lost white house reportedly lost a white house file interfered in file on russia, interfered in the 2016 winning election, and meanwhile , rudy giuliani has meanwhile, rudy giuliani has ordered to pay nearly $150 million in to election workers in a defamation suit. then, at five, it's my difficult conversation. natalie russell will be live in the studio now , will be live in the studio now, an incredible lady who took part in the series. my mum, your dad but had to serve at survive, a truly tragic and traumatic childhood which saw her sent to prison five times, dealing with abuse from a very young age and being brought up in a broken home before she turned her life around and now works as a self—esteem and relationship coach. self—esteem and relationship coach . she'll be joining me at coach. she'll be joining me at five. want to miss

five. you won't want to miss her. stay tuned. that is, of course, difficult course, my difficult conversation that's on the way in the next hour. tell me what you think on everything we're discussing. email gb views gb news. tweet at . gb news. com or tweet me at. gb news. com or tweet me at. gb news. right. so today is national day of action for palestine and shut it down for palestine. protests are taking place across the united kingdom and abroad to show support for palestine amid the ongoing conflict between israel and the terror group hamas. well, joining me with the analysis on the protests is gb news political correspondent catherine faulkner. catherine, thank you very much for joining me. um, so talk about talk to me about the protests this far. so far, yes. >> so much quieter today. we've got used, haven't we, since those terrorist atrocities on october 7th of pretty much october the 7th of pretty much every saturday, seeing a very large protest in central london. um, this saturday is rather different . there's some local different. there's some local protests. there's one in camden

that's been going on in the last couple of hours. there's also a gathering outside the residence of the israeli ambassador to the united kingdom , people shouting, united kingdom, people shouting, stop killing babies, stop killing doctors , stop killing killing doctors, stop killing journalists . it's um, of course , journalists. it's um, of course, the death toll in gaza now over 18,000, according to the hamas health ministry, no sign of any real ceasefire. despite what the united nations might like . but, united nations might like. but, you know, even president biden, an america voted against a ceasefire, although most countries voted for one and the uk abstained . countries voted for one and the uk abstained. but countries voted for one and the uk abstained . but even america uk abstained. but even america now president biden warning israel all to be careful because worried about support beginning to wane because of what he referred to as indiscriminate bombing but no end in sight to these atrocities. and, of course , hostages still missing and tragically , as we've heard, tragically, as we've heard, killed . and 1400 innocent

killed. and 1400 innocent israeli slaughtered on october the 7th. >> well, it's awful, isn't it? i mean, we were talking more about that. we'll have we're speaking to eurogamer, i wanted to to eurogamer, but i wanted to ask because richard ask you because richard sunak has had a nice chat with has just had a nice chat with giorgia talk me giorgia meloni. uh, talk to me about what discussed and about what they discussed and you know why there was that meeting in the first place? >> well, he's attended this right wing festival, if you like, that's been going on for about 25 years. every year, and lots of people previously have attended people like steve bannon, who worked very closely with donald trump. um viktor orban from hungary. we've had elon musk there today , but rishi elon musk there today, but rishi sunak there along with the albanian prime minister talking with giorgia meloni about illegal migration very specifically, this is a huge challenge, not just for us, but even worse for italy. the numbers there are incredible. 150,000 people have crossed illegally into italy this year.

the island of lampedusa, the population is about 6000. on five days in september , they had five days in september, they had 11,000 people will arrive . but 11,000 people will arrive. but let's have a little look at a few words that rishi sunak said earlier, shall we? >> if we do not tackle this problem, the numbers will only grow. it will overwhelm il'm our countries and our capacity to help those who actually need our help those who actually need our help the most . the cost of help the most. the cost of accommodating these people will anger our citizens , who won't anger our citizens, who won't understand why their money should have to be spent on deaung should have to be spent on dealing with the consequences of this evil trade. it will destroy the public's faith, not just in us as politicians, but in our very systems of government . very systems of government. >> it so rishi sunak their strong words basically saying that if the governments do not get a grip on this, ultimately the people will lose faith in them, lose faith in democracy, and of course , the brexit vote and of course, the brexit vote in 2016 partly take back control of our borders . and 29,000

of our borders. and 29,000 people crossing the channel. a very, very visible symbol of that failure. similarly, the conservative government spent years saying they'd get net migration down to the tens of thousands, and now it's at three quarters of a million. so strong words also saying that he and giorgia meloni are prepared to do things differently. talking about his plan for rwanda and maloney's plan to offshore processing to albania. although that's now stuck in the courts as well, but also hinting, saying if that requires us to amend laws and look at international agreements that have been around for a long time, so be it. so leaving the door open, possibly to more drastic action. although rishi sunak has never been keen on going that far. but let's see what happens with the rwanda plan . plan. >> let's see if anything happens. katherine forster thank you so much. it was a pleasure. let's return to actions in israel, where the death toll in

gaza continues to grow. meanwhile, official says meanwhile, an idf official says that israeli hostages mistakenly killed in gaza have been holding up were holding up a white flag. well joining me with more analysis farage suella analysis is mr farage suella live in tel aviv? uri, thank you so much forjoining me. um, so we've heard that some of the hostages have been killed by the idf . this was it's awful to say, idf. this was it's awful to say, but it was inevitable that that may become an issue. what's the mood like? and what are people saying? where you are ? saying? where you are? >> okay, look, let me tell you what i think. >> first of all, of course, something terribly tragic happened yesterday. >> i mean, israeli soldiers accidentally killed three hostages. now this is something so terrible that the whole country , everybody in israel is country, everybody in israel is in a shock . country, everybody in israel is in a shock. but country, everybody in israel is in a shock . but we know it was in a shock. but we know it was a terrible, tragic accident and terrible, tragic accident and terrible mistakes get made in wars. the soldiers will carry

this burden for the rest of their lives, and no one is blaming them. no one in israel is blaming the soldiers , our is blaming the soldiers, our soldiers, the only people responsible for these hostel . responsible for these hostel. the deaths are hamas and everyone knows that. it is a terrible reminder for nana why hamas must be destroyed. so it can never harm anyone ever again. now let me explain why this is my theory. why why i believe, um, these poor hostages were shot . believe, um, these poor hostages were shot. hamas believe, um, these poor hostages were shot . hamas constantly does were shot. hamas constantly does tricks. they they, um, have bombs , uh, in many different bombs, uh, in many different places where israeli troops have to enter just what? yesterday or before yesterday , they found before yesterday, they found toys . dolls that israeli toys. dolls that israeli children's voices were recorded into these toys . so when an into these toys. so when an israeli soldier hears a child

calling out in hebrew , do you calling out in hebrew, do you know this is , you know, to know this is, you know, to attack the israeli soldiers, to get them to move into somewhere where it's booby trapped. and some, some of our soldiers die because as they go out to save a child or they hear something . so child or they hear something. so i'm not surprised. sadly that these hostages were killed by accident. maybe maybe the soldier that shot them or two. i don't know how many uh, uh, soldiers shot at the hostages, but they are. we are very, very , but they are. we are very, very, very much strung up. we have to be careful . we don't really be careful. we don't really know. are they? are they this is a trick. this is not. we are constantly under these attacks by hamas to lure us into places where they want to kill us. so that's my theory that the soldiers shot them by mistake , soldiers shot them by mistake, thinking that they might be

hamas . uh, um, soldiers, hamas. uh, um, soldiers, murderers . murderers. >> yeah, well, you can understand why they would feel that way, because there's obviously a heightened sense of alertness in that situation . and alertness in that situation. and as you said, hamas later apps and these could have easily been hamas people dressed in this way trying to lure the fighters in. it's a snap second decision. but because of that, i heard that that a lot of people in israel were very angry at benjamin netanyahu because of this . netanyahu because of this. >> well, look , this is such >> well, look, this is such a tragedy . i >> well, look, this is such a tragedy. i mean, >> well, look, this is such a tragedy . i mean, we >> well, look, this is such a tragedy. i mean, we are we are losing soldiers , but we are losing soldiers, but we are fighting hamas. we have to destroy hamas. the political situation. yes yes. for the bibi. no, for bibi. this constantly some type of an argument going on on the political side. but hey , um, political side. but hey, um, what can bibi do? this is war. we are at war with hamas . and

we are at war with hamas. and like you said, they they are laying traps for us. they we move into schools . do you move into schools. do you remember a few weeks ago i showed you a teddy bear? yeah a teddy bear. and inside the teddy bean teddy bear. and inside the teddy bear, they found, uh, a sniper. rifles and bombs and grenades . rifles and bombs and grenades. so we have we are very, very much, uh, a alarm inside our mind. be careful. this might be a trap . a trap. >> yuri. thank you so much for letting us hear what it's like for you there. thank you so much. you take care of yourself, and we'll hopefully speak to you next week . next week. >> thank you, and happy christmas. >> happy christmas to you. uri uri geller, he's a world famous mystifier and of lives in mystifier and of course lives in tel . well, let's to the tel aviv. well, let's get to the thoughts of this from an international security and border control expert, henry bolton, who joins me now. henry uri a good point that you uri makes a good point that you know, hamas have been laying traps from the start. so how can the idf possibly work out and

decipher who and what is what? it must be very difficult . it must be very difficult. >> well, what i'm going to say nana, i'd like to sort of just caveat beforehand with by saying , of course these hostages wouldn't have been anywhere near anything that could do them harm had hamas not taken them on october the 7th. and uri is absolutely right in that respect. the people who are responsible for these deaths are hamas. um i would also say it's important to remember that for us here and for the people who are watching on television now, of course , it's very easy to of course, it's very easy to second guess what are soldiers decisions are in the heat of battle. anybody who's been in combat will tell you that it is . combat will tell you that it is. it is chaos. there there is confusion. there is noise. there your senses are being overwhelmed and you have to cut through that to make the right decisions. >> and sometimes that that process fails. >> even the sort of best trained soldiers. so having said that,

what i fear, given the context more broadly, that the united states and others are becoming concerned at what i was earlier concerned at what i was earlier concerned about, which is the amount of firepower that's being deployed by israel and the fact that they simply don't have the capacity as a nation, not because they don't technically know how to do it, but because they simply don't have the size. and the organised and the resources to be able to target every single one of the bombs and missiles that they are firing . that's worrying and firing. that's worrying and that's what's worrying. the americans at the moment when they say, well, look, you know, can a more careful can we be a bit more careful about the indiscriminate use of firepower? area where firepower? i, in this area where these were these three hostages were so tragically are tragically killed? um, there are really two groups there is the israeli defence forces and there's hamas fighters, the civilians have moved out of that area and so i suspect strongly that the israeli defence forces treated this area as a sort of free fire zone. anything that's out there that is not israeli defence forces is a target. and

i think that was probably a legitimate general sort of assumption to make. but in that case, perhaps , you know, these case, perhaps, you know, these three got caught up in that , three got caught up in that, that sort of problem. and sometimes there needs to be a little bit more sophistication there it's don't want to there. um, it's i don't want to second guess it, but what we're seeing on the screen are the faces of those hostages who were sadly killed . sadly killed. >> very, tragic. henry, you >> very, very tragic. henry, you will with me for the next will stay with me for the next houn will stay with me for the next hour. we'll have to have you back board. just tuned back on board. you just tuned in. this is a news in. welcome. this is a gb news on online and digital radio. on tv, online and digital radio. it's minutes after on tv, online and digital radio. it's i'm minutes after on tv, online and digital radio. it's i'm nana minutes after on tv, online and digital radio. it's i'm nana aminutes after on tv, online and digital radio. it's i'm nana a queer.s after on tv, online and digital radio. it's i'm nana a queer. coming 3:00. i'm nana a queer. coming up, chair of republicans up, the chair of the republicans overseas, swenson, will be overseas, greg swenson, will be joining political joining me for my political spotlight discuss donald spotlight to discuss donald trump's battle. and rudy trump's latest battle. and rudy giuliani's $150 million fine. but next, it's time for but up next, it's time for climate control, where we debate the climate topics from the biggest climate topics from the biggest climate topics from the . i'm asking, has the past week. i'm asking, has cop 28 been a success or failure 7 cop 28 been a success or failure ? stay tuned. this is .

that i knew had dewbs& co weeknights from six. >> hello, good afternoon and welcome to gb news on tv online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua and now it's time for climate control. where we discuss the debate around the climate and we discuss cop 28, another cop 2728. there going on and on. they've just has it been and on. they've just has it been a success? has it been a failure 7 a success? has it been a failure ? the president failed to commit to the phasing out of fossil fuels. that's the president of cop 28. think was al jabr.

cop 28. i think it was al jabr. he's guy i know that was the he's the guy i know that was the other one. but honestly, towards the this year's climate the end of this year's climate change conference, countries agreed call on others to stop agreed to call on others to stop using polluting energy using the polluting energy source, the fossil fuels. but without anything in place to hold them to account, which is just like the last time really, when they came up with what was it giving money away to a poorer nafions it giving money away to a poorer nations who've been affected by the forgot to the climate, but they forgot to mention about co2 reduction? well, listen, i'm joined now by jim dale, meteorologist and social commentator, and also paul , climate scientist. paul burgess, climate scientist. i'm going to start with you, jim dale , because you're dressed as dale, because you're dressed as a snowflake. he's just a snowflake. is a snowflake , i snowflake. he is a snowflake, i am there you go . am there you go. >> i'm halfway there to christmas. well , know, christmas. yeah, well, you know, go might some go on. and there might be some snow can say that now, snow around. i can say that now, openly. can say, well, openly. you can say, well, that's a bit vague, isn't it? >> there might be there might that's a bit vague, isn't it? >> beere might be there might that's a bit vague, isn't it? >> be nineight be there might that's a bit vague, isn't it? >> be nine days)e there might that's a bit vague, isn't it? >> be nine days away. 'e might not be nine days away. >> all right, well, go on, carry on.cop >> all right, well, go on, carry on. cop 28 was a kind a line on. cop 28 was a kind of a line in the sand of dubai. i can in the sand of dubai. if i can phrase that. one small phrase it like that. one small step , but not giant

step for man, but not a giant leap for mankind . leap for mankind. >> can you speak in? well what that means is, is a lot of talk, a smudging. a lot of smudging. >> word aid. as you've >> the word aid. as you've mentioned, the transition now, rather the phasing out . so rather than the phasing out. so how can i put this what's going to happen in the next year or two? probably not a lot. nothing will change as far as, uh, catastrophic type weather events are concerned. so look, it never was that each one of was going to be that each one of these is a movement forward. but it's as i say, it's a small movement forward . and think movement forward. and i think that's where and we look that's where we are. and we look forward 29 and see forward to cop 29 and see whether we can inch forward again . whether we can inch forward aga um, cop 28 was whether we can inch forward agaum, cop 28 was a >> um, paul, cop 28 was a success in as much as it failed, as they all do, right? >> so success in that way, and it's actually trying to solve a problem. has problem. just as jim has mentioned, catastrophes and so on. doesn't exist. and so on. that doesn't exist. and so could bring up my first slide could i bring up my first slide to explain this . to explain this. >> what's on the first slide? what what's the first what are we what's on the first slide what i showed last slide is what i showed last week, which is the ipcc. >> um, be coming up, hope. >> don't worry. >> don't worry. >> you carry on talking. the

ipcc, where nothing's emerged and records for and the historic records for floods, etc. floods, droughts, etc. >> what i'd like is >> so what i'd like there is there an and this is what jim really reacted to last week. and i'm sure he's going to respond this so what i've got now this week. so what i've got now is second video. is a little 32 second video. okay. explain whole okay. to explain why the whole thing now just thing is false. now i've just taken droughts. now don't forget we're looking at history up to now. don't want now. okay i'm not i don't want to discuss future because to discuss the future because i don't all models. so don't accept all the models. so we're a history up to we're looking at a history up to now . and if we play the video now. and if we play the video now, we'll look at it. >> all right, let's take a look. let's video up. this is let's get that video up. this is paul explaining you. paul burgess explaining for you. >> can from this >> has anyone can see from this table droughts reduced table uk droughts have reduced over worst over the years. the worst droughts far in the droughts were by far in the past. the uk and environment agency agrees with recent drought events being no means exceptional, as does the uk met office. currently, there are no uk climate attribution studies available that clearly link human induced climate change with altered risk of drought events and of course, nasa itself . the usa environment itself. the usa environment agency epa agrees , along with

agency epa agrees, along with studies on a global scale . studies on a global scale. >> beat that jim. >> beat that jim. >> okay, so i'll beat it. uh, all right. first of all, paul, you're not a climate scientist. you're a you're a water resource engineer and not a climate scientist. so what you're pulling up is something you pull up last week from gregory wrightstone that nobody had ever heard of, ever. and i looked at i looked to who this i looked to find out who this guy he's been on guy was. and he's been banned on linkedin for putting out misinformation and so misinformation and lies. so that's a flag in the that's a that's a flag in the soil , if you that's a that's a flag in the soil, if you like. as far that's a that's a flag in the soil , if you like. as far as soil, if you like. as far as he's concerned , um, you also he's concerned, um, you also picked a guy called richard feynman who died in 1988, even before climate change was was was a narrative. you're kind of clutching at straws and can i say, because you've put your video up, i've got two, two easy, nice, easy, uh, graphics that you can put up. so there's the first one that's 2000 years of temperature. and at the very, very right hand side end there, you the reds which come you can see the reds which come in terms of this is global in in terms of this is global average temperatures right across right

across the globe. so right at the end you can see what's the very end you can see what's happened. it's been fairly happened. so it's been fairly static colder a time. and static colder for a time. and then all of a sudden bang, particularly in his last decade or there's a second one. or so there's a second one. hopefully we'll come up. and there are. that's the record there we are. that's the record of last years so, 170 of the last 150 years or so, 170 years, and you can see quite , years, and you can see quite, quite obviously what's what's going on in terms of global temperatures. and right through the you've got the middle of that, you've got you see what are you you see oh two what are you saying graph. >> said we can saying graph. >> quite said we can saying graph. >> quite clearly. said we can saying graph. >> quite clearly. welli we can saying graph. >> quite clearly. well is'e can see quite clearly. well is happening i think you can see the, you can see the, the blues mean the average the reds mean under the average the reds mean under the average the reds mean average, over mean over the average, over time. peak at the right hand >> the peak at the right hand side is where are now. and side is where we are now. and underlying all of that is the c02 underlying all of that is the co2 level, which is the black line the middle. line going through the middle. so that's. you're so anybody that's. so you're a child. yeah >> well it's just this is from this is from. >> yeah. of course this is from noah. so you know, that's that's noah. so you know, that's that's noahin noah. so you know, that's that's noah in united states. that's the climate that's met office for you. that's the national ocean, ocean and atmospheric administration states . okay. >> so look, look. okay so you

come back at him with that. well first you do an ad first of all, you do an ad hominem on me. hominem attack on me. >> i build climate models of the atmosphere and looking forward to forward to to droughts, looking forward to floods having plan them floods and having to plan them in real world. so i built in the real world. so i built mathematical the mathematical models of the atmosphere i've in charge atmosphere. i've been in charge of for of a whole country for monitoring climate, etc. so . so monitoring climate, etc. so. so i've got a master's in it. so and i didn't choose to go into academia . so just personal academia. so just doing personal attacks. know you're not you attacks. i know you're not you know, let me finish because i know, let me finish because i know you're not a trained to do that, but it doesn't get us anywhere. what you've just anywhere. now, what you've just brought irrelevant. you brought up is irrelevant. you promised you would promised me last week you would show droughts show me how the droughts are increasing. bring increasing. i didn't bring up any those subjects. just any of those subjects. you just brought the brought up. i brought up the ipcc . i brought uk droughts . ipcc. i brought up uk droughts. ipcc. i brought up uk droughts. i brought up uk droughts. i brought up the met office here stating very clearly, you know, your drought graph. >> the metal went from 1982 to 2012. you forgot to mention the last 12 or so years. >> let me finish. you can check it afterwards. this is from the current met office in the uk. currently there are no uk

climate attribution studies available that clearly link human induced climate change with an altered risk of drought in events. there's link. in events. there's the link. it's today in the met it's on there today in the met office. in the memo i've quoted the environment here. no the environment agency here. no let finish. i've got five let me finish. i've got five seconds and i've got i suggest people go to the met office site, look at climate change, look at it says. look at what it says. >> may well find a little >> you may well find a little bit of that in there. but what you is that you extrapolate you do is that you extrapolate small it. touching small parts of it. no touching at a very , very at straws. metal is a very, very clear about climate change. >> listen, the point is that he's given you something to the metaphor. he said. it's come from can check from today. people can check it out. allowed make out. he's not allowed to make stuff sorry. speaking . stuff up. sorry. i'm speaking. he's going make up stuff up. sorry. i'm speaking. hethere. going make up stuff up. sorry. i'm speaking. hethere. we1g make up stuff up. sorry. i'm speaking. hethere. we won'tnake up stuff up. sorry. i'm speaking. hethere. we won't let e up stuff up. sorry. i'm speaking. hethere. we won't let him. up stuff up. sorry. i'm speaking. hethere. we won't let him. just in there. we won't let him. just like slides. we'll like with your slides. we'll also yours. he has made also check yours. he has made a very valid point there, jim dale. well, stay dale. right. well, listen, stay with that's with me. of course. that's meteorologist and social commentator, dale. also commentator, jim dale. and also climate commentator, jim dale. and also climawe asked, has cop 2228 even now, we asked, has cop 2228 even been a success failure ? what been a success or failure? what do but what about do you think? but what about this? how how would you like to win ten grand cash , brand new win ten grand cash, brand new tech and shopping vouchers?

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mornings from 930 on gbillionews i >> -- >> hello. good afternoon and welcome to gb news on tv , online welcome to gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. it's fast approaching 41 minutes after 3:00. we are the people's channel. i'm nana akua and now it is time for this week's political spotlight. and joining me to shine a light is the chair of republicans overseas uk , greg of republicans overseas uk, greg stenson. greg welcome on board. nice to see you . gosh right. so nice to see you. gosh right. so greg there is so much going on. lots of news with donald trump greg there is so much going on. lots everything th donald trump greg there is so much going on. lots everything else)nald trump greg there is so much going on. lots everything else likei trump greg there is so much going on. lots everything else like thatnp greg there is so much going on. lots everything else like that .p and everything else like that. it becoming very, very it is becoming very, very apparent that even those who would normally be democrats or who are democrats are looking at this and going, hold on a minute , this isn't right. >> right . >> right. >> right. >> even the democrats. so talk to me about what is so what is

start me off with kind of the white house and the whole thing with the interference with the russian elections and all that stuff. talk to me about that. >> yeah. i mean, it it's interesting for all their talk about election interference, interesting for all their talk aboriselection interference, interesting for all their talk aboris the tion interference, interesting for all their talk aboris the ultimate ference, interesting for all their talk aboris the ultimate election interference. >> rather than letting the people decide, the voters decide their using the justice system. they're they're weaponized using essentially weaponizing the justice and the courts justice system. and the courts to influence the election or even prevent president trump from running for re—election, or at least from becoming president again. now, right now, they're pumping them up. they know these indictments and these cases help him with the republican primary process. so he's getting more support, sympathy from republicans when they view him as a martyr. they see even if you don't like trump, even if you don't like trump, even if you supported someone else at the beginning of the nomination process, when you see the weaponization , when you see the weaponization, when you see the unequal application of the justice system , and it's really justice system, and it's really trumped derangement syndrome

gone wild , that's created a lot gone wild, that's created a lot of sympathy for trump. so you saw a lot of support move, for example, from governor desantis to president trump after these indictments started . so it is indictments started. so it is the ultimate election interference. they're really they have a much greater influence even on the nomination process in addition to the general. so this is and again, it all started back in 2016 with the russia collusion hoax. and so that's what they're talking about the last few days. this file that went that file that went missing that really probably exposed a lot of who actually created the hoax. now we know it came from the hillary clinton campaign . and we hillary clinton campaign. and we know that the fbi was involved and the cia was involved. so this was not only weaponized ocean of justice, but it's weaponization of the intelligence agencies . it's intelligence agencies. it's really sad to see now the institutions ultimately worked because it was uncovered. but once you start repeating the hoax or repeating a lie , if you hoax or repeating a lie, if you say it often enough, people actually believe it. they do

know it's been completely debunked and proven that it was a hoax , and proven it a hoax, and again proven that it came hillary clinton campaign. >> so the hoax is just to remind people of the is . people of what the hoax is. >> that was that was the fabrication of this idea that president trump was working with the russians and colluding with the russians and colluding with the russians and colluding with the russians to affect the outcome of the 2016 election. now it's since been proven to be just that, a hoax. and it's on the clinton campaign. they they paid for the steele dossier, which came from a former british intelligence officer , but a intelligence officer, but a complete and utter fabricate on. and yet 50% of the american electorate thinks it happened because they repeated it enough for two years. so when it was finally disproven, people are just moving on to the next topic . so. >> so what's going on with mayor giuliani, then? rudy giuliani, because to pay because he's been asked to pay $1481 because he's been asked to pay $148.1 million. yes >> not a small fine. >> not a small fine. >> he . who's gonna help him pay >> he. who's gonna help him pay for that? he's rich because he doesn't care. he doesn't doesn't even care. he doesn't sound cares. doesn't even care. he doesn't sou he's cares. doesn't even care. he doesn't sou he's nevercares. doesn't even care. he doesn't sou he's never going to happen. >> he's never going to happen. and appeal, of course. and and he'll appeal, of course. and this just a little bit of

this is just a little bit of silliness. i mean, putting that kind of a fine, you know, on a case like that where he said mean things about people, mean things about some people, you really obscene. you know, it's really obscene. the protection in the free speech protection in the is a little bit more the us is a little bit more intense than is here in the intense than it is here in the uk. so it's really difficult to sue for libel. and that's really what this another what happened. this is another trump syndrome trump derangement syndrome moment . that's not to say that moment. that's not to say that giuliani didn't have some rough days back in 2020. i mean , here days back in 2020. i mean, here was the former time magazine man of the year, mr mayor. he was a really loved figure in the early 2000, and it was sad to see him, you know, sort of almost make a fool of himself toward the end, the four seasons landscaping moment, the dye dripping down his head. not a great moment. well, what happened? >> what happened there? >> what happened there? >> the four seasons? >> the four seasons? >> he called press >> well, he called a press conference. the conference. and so a lot of the press thought, four seasons, press thought, oh, four seasons, it's in philadelphia. it's the hotel in philadelphia. no, was four seasons no, it was four seasons landscaping. just. oh, landscaping. so it was just. oh, no, bad it's the no, a really bad look. it's the only get. and only place they could get. and so, know, he he made some so, you know, he he made some calls that he probably regrets, you know, trying to accuse

people of, you know, voting machine violations and stuffing ballots. you know, it's the old argument only really accuse people of what you can prove and what you have photos of. >> well, this is the damages included nearly 16.2 million and 17 million in compensatory damages for freeman and moss, who that's a little bit ridiculous. >> these are the people who he sort and said, sort of blamed and said, yeah, but so was there no truth but what's so was there no truth in some of that vote rigging? >> i mean, because from what we've seen, it does seem some of the were a bit that happened. >> n happened. >> absolutely. and i think it took time to figure out took some time to figure out what really the election. what really swung the election. so i mean, i don't so if you just i mean, i don't want fraud, but if want to call it fraud, but if you at, at, you know, voter you look at, at, you know, voter voting irregularities, let's say clearly the censorship of the new york post, articles about the hunter biden laptop that clearly had an effect on the election , then, you know, 30% of election, then, you know, 30% of the people who did not know about it and would have changed their vote if they did so that's probably the most obvious. then you the zuckerberg hoax. you had the zuckerberg hoax. there a lot of the changes

there were a lot of the changes of the pennsylvania and michigan laws the election laws before, before the election that go through that didn't go through the legislative are legislative process. these are all unconstitutional. so you know, there was some flaws and it's just that at the time they were looking for the easy the low hanging fruit, which would have know, have been, you know, a photograph of someone stuffing ballots , you know, a real, ballots or, you know, a real, you know, problem with the voting but that didn't voting machines. but that didn't really materialise. and i think it made them look a little foolish. >> yeah. because it did feel like something odd happened. >> shutting down the counting. i mean, there was one in the morning for three hours. >> one went closed. and then suddenly was suddenly when trump was definitely stopped definitely ahead, they stopped counting. and it's like, oh, come it was postal come on. and it was postal voting mainly as well. >> and that big thing. >> so and that was a big thing. and i think the republicans have to on if the to get smarter on that. if the mail in voting is now the law, then to take advantage then you have to take advantage of your ballot of it and do your own ballot harvesting own , you harvesting and your own, you know, gathering you know, know, gathering of you know, mailing out ballots, all that , mailing out ballots, all that, all that stuff that was so new back then. republicans back then. and the republicans were busy saying vote on were so busy saying vote on election day . that's what we

election day. that's what we always and some people just always do. and some people just didn't so the mail didn't want to. and so the mail in really favoured the in ballots really favoured the democrats. a lot of democrats. so there was a lot of funny business. but again, it's hard prove . and that's the hard to prove. and that's the problem fraud is it's problem with fraud is it's really difficult. >> but brazier as well. >> but but it's brazier as well. so it's clear that something went on. but you've actually got to that was. to prove what that thing was. right. it's not as though oh right. so it's not as though oh you think oh clear you think oh so it's clear there's something's gone on. it's i don't know it's not right. but i don't know how know, was how they, you know, trump was obviously my view he's right. obviously in my view he's right. something happened that something happened with that election what election i don't know what happened. done it in a happened. they've done it in a way couldn't prove it way that you couldn't prove it either way that you couldn't prove it eitiand you knew they would. >> and you knew they would. i mean, will at mean, this they will stop at nothing. they're really nothing. i mean, they're really driven. nothing. i mean, they're really dnven.the nothing. i mean, they're really driven. the democrats and they did it again in the midterms. again, i'm not saying singing no cheating. >> i wouldn't have thought they'd though. they'd have gone so far though. >> even now, now, even when >> and even now, now, even when you what they're you can hear that what they're saying, you know, the way they're attacking trump through they're attacking trump through the any the judiciary and through any other with other anything coming up with absolutely their old 1968 >> yeah, it's their old 1968 argument by any means necessary. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> but they don't care that we can it. we're calling

can we can see it. we're calling it out. >> they just want to win. >> they just want to win. >> they just win. and >> they just want to win. and what then because what with joe biden then because he's in a bit of a dilemma with ukraine. what really is. ukraine. what he really is. talk to about what that means. to people about what that means. >> he's advocating for >> so he's advocating for more funding ukraine. and the funding for ukraine. and the republicans that . republicans are okay with that. you the you know, the senate, the republicans in the senate, like mitch mcconnell, minority republicans in the senate, like mitch i\he's1nell, minority republicans in the senate, like mitch i\he's he's, minority republicans in the senate, like mitch i\he's he's for minority republicans in the senate, like mitch i\he's he's for all inority republicans in the senate, like mitch i\he's he's for all it.yrity leader, he's he's for all it. mike johnson, the new speaker of the house, he's you know, he was a little bit averse to it when he a backbencher. as soon as he was a backbencher. as soon as he was a backbencher. as soon as he became the leader, he flipped on endorsed more on it. he's endorsed more support ukraine. also support for ukraine. also for israel but they also israel and taiwan. but they also have a real national security problem at the border with mexico. it's why it's an open border. and that's 100% due to biden's preference for open borders. and he's he's really following the lead of the open border faction, the radical progressive militant faction in his own party. but he's polling at 23 on the border. so this could be a win win for biden. first of all, they're not unruly issues to say that, you know,

there's criticism of the republican for tying in ukraine funding to the border funding and border policies, but they're both national security issues . both national security issues. and so this could be a double win for biden. he could get the ukraine funding. that's a win for him. even whether or not you're, you know, or you're, you know, for that or have some concerns about it. but you have, you know, an opportunity to fix the problem at the border , which you're at the border, which you're polling at 23 on. so you know, he's really he's he's afraid to offend the radical left wing of his party that wants open borders. there's 8 million illegal immigrants. s sorry , illegal immigrants. s sorry, asylum seekers that have come into the country by the end of the biden administration. unless he changes course , there'll be he changes course, there'll be 10 million. it's a huge number. it's creating a huge sanitarian crisis for those very people, but for the people who live but also for the people who live in border towns. and then to in the border towns. and then to the cities where they're shipping. a lot of the illegals chicago, san francisco, new york. and you're even getting pushback democratic pushback from the democratic mayor. that something pushback from the democratic manyesantis that something pushback from the democratic

manyesantis did,:hat something pushback from the democratic manyesantis did, though1ething pushback from the democratic manyesantis did, though ,ething pushback from the democratic manyesantis did, though , to ng that desantis did, though, to sort of yeah, that started with the desantis, didn't he? yeah, it brilliant sent it was brilliant move. he sent 50 of the illegals to martha's vineyard , which is the summer vineyard, which is the summer capital for the democratic party and . and of course, and the left. and of course, they couldn't tolerate it once they couldn't tolerate it once they had them in their own backyard. oh yeah, they they had 100 guardsmen from cape 100 national guardsmen from cape cod naval base come over to the island and take and take the immigrants back to the cape , immigrants back to the cape, because they just couldn't stand it, not in martha's vineyard, of coui'se. >> course. >> we need to send some to gary lineker. are talking about lineker. are we talking about him? couple of moments time? >> that would wise. >> that would be wise. >> that would be wise. >> he needs of see what >> he needs to sort of see what he's talking about because i don't gets well, don't think he gets it. well, listen, um, hansel has been in touch we asked people touch because we asked people to get views gb get in touch via gb views gb news. hansel says back news. com hansel says bring back donald trump. he'll sort out the world's last world's problems in his last time, were started. time, no wars were started. luckily us system luckily i think the us system will allow him to serve two more terms. >> well, he can't serve two terms, >> well, he can't serve two terrbut but do because he's >> but but they do because he's done >> but but they do because he's dorthey only do one. >> they only do one. >> they only do one. >> they only do one. >> the limit is two. yeah it's just two in total. >> of whether or

not. >> know not. >> but you know he's got a point. if people even if you don't miss trump the personality he peace and he you miss the peace and prosperity of 2019. i miss the humour, i miss twitter, i miss the interactions entertaining. and he's got quite the personality and it's great for the media business, that's for sure. know, people the media business, that's for sure. do know, people the media business, that's for sure. do i well, middle east, >> well, also the middle east, because he kept peace there. absolutely. look at what's absolutely. and look at what's happened now, you know, to, you know, is probably the most obvious, , you know, for the obvious, but, you know, for the first the biden first two years of the biden ministration were ministration, the staffers were not permitted to use the terme abraham accords because they thought that would be nod to thought that would be a nod to the trump. the success of trump. >> anything that trump did >> so anything that trump did that successful, they either that was successful, they either denied or just ignored it. and denied orjust ignored it. and i think it wasn't for that, you think if it wasn't for that, you might seen agreement might have seen an agreement between israelis and the between the israelis and the saudis occur before we've had all this drama in the last few

months. so. >> well, biden's not really too bad. >> well, joe biden's not really all there is, he? i mean, i'm sure he's on maybe some sort of medication to keep him sort of as i mean, that's just my as he is. i mean, that's just my he works looking at that's he works looking at him. that's what works hours what i'm he works two hours a day i'm not sure he'll day and, uh, i'm not sure he'll mention today. >> that is the 250th anniversary of party. oh, of the boston tea party. oh, right. to right. and someone will have to really through that really walk him through that because might not remember, because he might not remember, although he might been although he might have been alive at that point. >> probably but as >> he probably was. but as opposed now? opposed to what now? >> he's sort of. >> yeah, barely. he's sort of. it's really odd, though , because it's really odd, though, because people are talking about him coming in for a second time, right? that's madness . that's right? that's madness. that's not happen, is it? not going to happen, is it? >> not. i don't think so. >> it's not. i don't think so. >> mean, it can't happen right >> i mean, it can't happen right now. he to the now. he wants to be the candidate. talk him now. he wants to be the can of ate. talk him now. he wants to be the can of its. talk him now. he wants to be the can of it. but talk him now. he wants to be the can of it. but i talk him now. he wants to be the can of it. but i think talk him now. he wants to be the can of it. but i think astalk him now. he wants to be the can of it. but i think as we him now. he wants to be the can of it. but i think as we get] out of it. but i think as we get closer to the election, if they see if it's see trump or some, if it's another candidate, it looks like trump now. but if they see trump polling 5 or 10 points ahead of him, especially in the swing states, they'll pull him. they'll the bernie sanders they'll do the bernie sanders trick. the same they trick. the same trick they pulled on which was pulled on bernie, which was

basically bernie aside basically pushing bernie aside and making joe the candidate in 2020. they'll do that to biden . 2020. they'll do that to biden. they'll have to, because he's not capable of so, so then briefly , um, can trump win yes briefly, um, can trump win yes or no ? or no? >> do you think he can can he win ? win? >> yes. will he win in possible to say. and these polls don't believe the polls. the mainstream media, the progressive left . they want you progressive left. they want you to think that trump is polling really well against biden and against his his republican opponents , because they want him opponents, because they want him to be the candidate. they think he's they can beat. he's the only one they can beat. so they'll do their best to make him then him the nominee. and then they'll on him and they'll they'll turn on him and they'll just put everything they have against trump. they'll elevate trump derangement syndrome. >> greg, it's >> well, listen, greg, it's lovely to be here. >> thank talk to you. >> thank you. talk to you. >> thank you. talk to you. >> course, greg >> that's of course, greg swenson. my political swenson. he's my political spotlight afternoon just spotlight this afternoon. just briefly another message here jeff says you can rely on jim dale to try and take the man and not the ball. he just can't debate the subject. just debate the subject. he just wants try and discredit the wants to try and discredit the two sides. but the mike says, why everyone against dale why is everyone against jim dale when about climate

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>> hello. good afternoon . and >> hello. good afternoon. and welcome. it's fast approaching. 4:00. this is tv news on tv, onune 4:00. this is tv news on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua . and for the next two nana akua. and for the next two hours, me and my panel will be taking on some of the big topics hitting headlines right now, hitting the headlines right now, this is all about opinion. this show is all about opinion. it's it's theirs, and of it's mine, it's theirs, and of course it's yours. we'll be debating, discussing and at times we will disagree, but no one will be cancelled. so joining me today is broadcaster and columnist lizzie cundy. also former adviser former labour party adviser matthew get matthew lala. before we get started, let's get your latest news with elizabeth . good afternoon. >> it's a minute past four. i'm elizabeth callahan in the gb newsroom , an idf official says newsroom, an idf official says israeli hostages mistakenly

killed in gaza had been holding up a white flag . israeli troops up a white flag. israeli troops opened fire on yotam haim, salma talal and alan shimrit after they were misidentified as a threat. they were killed in an area of intense fighting where hamas terrorists often wear civilian clothing and used deceptive tactics. the men were being held hostage by hamas after they were kidnapped . on after they were kidnapped. on the 7th of october. rishi sunak has told a crowd in rome that there's nothing conservative about allowing a country's sovereignty to be violated. he's in italy, meeting prime minister giorgia meloni to discuss ways to tackle illegal migration. he said that both he and the italian leader are committed to breaking the business models of people smugglers. today's meeting comes a day after 292 migrants crossed the english channelin migrants crossed the english channel in seven small boats, bringing the total so far this year to 29,500. and the prime minister says it's now more

important than ever to tackle illegal migration. >> if we do not tackle this problem, the numbers will only grow. it will overwhelm our countries and our capacity to help those who actually need our help those who actually need our help the most . the cost of help the most. the cost of accommodating these people will anger our citizens , who won't anger our citizens, who won't understand why their money should have to be spent on deaung should have to be spent on dealing with the consequences of this evil trade. it will destroy the public's faith, not just in us as politicians, but in our very systems of government as well. >> meanwhile , a sudanese >> meanwhile, a sudanese national has died in another incident on the english channel, two others are still missing after a rescue off dunkirk early on friday morning. it takes the total number of confirmed migrant deaths in the channel, so far this year to ten. british schoolboy alex batty, who went missing six years ago in spain, is expected to return to the uk

today. the 17 year old was just 11 when he vanished with his mother and grandfather after he was found on thursday in france after leaving the spiritual commune where he was living with his mother and alex's grandmother, who has legal custody, says she can't wait for them to be reunited . a royal them to be reunited. a royal navy destroyer has shot down a suspected attack drone targeting merchant shipping in the red sea . defence secretary grant shapps says hms diamond hit the target overnight with a sea viper missile. the ship recently arrived in the region as part of efforts to increase maritime security . the metropolitan security. the metropolitan police says it will carefully consider a civil judgement handed down yesterday that found prince harry was the victim of phone hacking. the high court found that extensive phone hacking had taken place at the mirror group newspapers over several years. prince harry described the result as great for truth and accountability.

the met says while it will consider the ruling, there is no ongoing investigation . donald ongoing investigation. donald trump's former lawyer rudy giuliani, is to appeal after being ordered to pay more than £116 million for defaming two women, giuliani claimed that surveillance footage showed . two surveillance footage showed. two election workers wandrea shaye moss and her mother, ruby freeman, concealing and counting suitcases filled with illegal ballots. they received a deluge of racist messages , including of racist messages, including threats and lynching , and were threats and lynching, and were forced to relocate. giuliani falsely claimed he'd been blocked from presenting his own evidence and described the payout as absurd . police have payout as absurd. police have released cctv images of three men wanted for questioning after graffiti relating to the israel—hamas conflict was sprayed onto an mps office. s the constituency office of feryal clark, who's the mp for

enfield north, was vandalised last month. police say they've examined cctv footage from the local area and are appealing for anyone with information on the men to contact them . and some men to contact them. and some breaking news now in the last few moments, there's no indication of any third party involvement in the search for missing woman gaynor lord, a postmodern post—mortem was performed on a body found in the search for the missing woman in norfolk. police say a formal identification of the body found in norwich will take place tomorrow . the rac says petrol tomorrow. the rac says petrol pnces tomorrow. the rac says petrol prices have fallen to their lowest level in more than two years. a litre of unleaded petrol now costs an average of 140 £0.02, a price not seen since the end of october 2021. however diesel prices have not fallen . the news comes during fallen. the news comes during one of the busiest times of the year on the roads, with experts saying prices should continue to fall steadily every day in the

run up to christmas . this is gb run up to christmas. this is gb news across the uk on tv , in news across the uk on tv, in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play on your smart speaker by saying play gb news now let's get back to . nana. to. nana. >> thank you elizabeth . that's >> thank you elizabeth. that's six minutes after 4:00. this is gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua . i digital radio. i'm nana akua. i don't know who's worse. prince harry or gary lineker , two of harry or gary lineker, two of the most overprivileged and disconnected people on the planet. both have received vast sums of money from the taxpayer . sums of money from the taxpayer. both are unspeakably arrogant. we'll get to prince harry later, but i'm not going to let gary slip under the radar and slither off the hook . so this week, off the hook. so this week, grant shapps warned gary to stick to football . stick to football. >> why does gary lineker wind this lot up so much?

>> your reaction to mr lineker's view of the proposed rwanda policy? >> i honestly think it would be much better if he stuck to commenting football . commenting on football. >> gary joined a load of other out—of—touch celebrities in signing a letter calling for the rwanda plan to be scrapped. they want our political leaders to come up with a new plan for refugees , which sounds perfectly refugees, which sounds perfectly plausible . the letter describes plausible. the letter describes britain's refugee system as uncaring, chaotic and costly, accusing the government of trying to banish people to rwanda . there's nothing wrong rwanda. there's nothing wrong with rwanda , but you see, the with rwanda, but you see, the problem with people like gary is that they object to everything they object to turning the boats back. they object to turning the boats back . they object to migrants back. they object to migrants housed in barges. they object to migrants housed in detention centres. they object to migrants houses housed in hotels . need houses housed in hotels. need i go on? should have just opening the borders. you name it, they'll argue against it. and like all these people, they are, of course out of ideas of their own, which is typical . they've

own, which is typical. they've even objected to the words that we use, which is odd, because when gary compared ex—home secretary suella braverman's language to that of 1930s germany, when the nazis were in charge, you'd have thought that he would come out and condemn an actual massacre of jewish people by hamas. but oddly, gary stayed silent . i'm by hamas. but oddly, gary stayed silent. i'm not complaining. by hamas. but oddly, gary stayed silent. i'm not complaining . if silent. i'm not complaining. if he keeps his trap shut, but the but the thing is , he later on but the thing is, he later on piped up support for palestine. some consistency would be good. jonathan gullies mp tweeted in relation to the letter that this was yet another breach of the bbc impartiality rules. gary replied telling him to read the new guidelines or get someone to read them for him. gary also hit back at grant shapps in his comment when he told him to stick to football, saying it was a tad rich coming from someone who stick to one name who can't even stick to one name for shapps . he who can't even stick to one name for shapps. he called him for shapps shapps. he called him well , for shapps shapps. he called him well, assigning the letter wasn't a breach . according to wasn't a breach. according to the bbc guidelines, gary is not

allowed to criticise individual politicians in the uk, so what was that then? for shapps ? was that then? for shapps? shapps sounds like a direct breach to me, but we'll spineless tim davie act surely gary cannot squirm his way out of this one. this isn't about freedom of speech. this is about a contract. if you sign a contract, an employment contract, an employment contract, or make a deal with your employer, agreeing not to directly criticise politicians , directly criticise politicians, and then you just do that anyway , then would have, in my , then you would have, in my view breached agreement. view, breached your agreement. the bbc's new incoming chair, samir shah, told mps on wednesday that social media post by lineker may have by gary lineker may have breached the bbc guidelines . he breached the bbc guidelines. he said a row between the presenter of match of the day and several tory mps, including defence secretary grant shapps, was not very helpful either. for gary lineker or the bbc, or the course he supports because it becomes a story about gary lineker and the bbc. the problem is that the general public are paying is that the general public are paying gary's salary via the

licence fee, which, if they fail to pay, are jailed . to my to pay, are jailed. to my knowledge, gary is the highest paid person at the bbc and that comes with responsibility . his comes with responsibility. his behaviour is one of the reasons why the bbc are losing favour with the general public. so whilst gary may think that all this stuff with prince harry will overshadow his antics, i haven't forgotten and neither haven't forgotten and neither have the british public. in the words of lee anderson, gary put a sock in it . so before we get a sock in it. so before we get stuck into the debate, here's what else is coming up today for the great british debate. this houn the great british debate. this hour, i'm asking is mass migration threat to national migration a threat to national security ? getty we've seen security? getty we've seen rising small boat crossings over the channel think 300 actually the channel i think 300 actually only the other night, coupled with of taxpayers money with millions of taxpayers money being spent asylum being spent on asylum seekers and overcrowded and overwhelmed and overcrowded nhs, as well as the growing nofion nhs, as well as the growing notion that multiculturalism is dead britain , and even more dead in britain, and even more recently, witnessed a rise recently, we've witnessed a rise in terrorism levels . and in global terrorism levels. and many say this could be getting

closer to home. so i'm closer to home. and so i'm asking is mass migration a threat national security ? and threat to national security? and at royal roundup time , at 456, royal roundup time, angela levin be here with angela levin will be here with the from behind the the latest from behind the palace walls menu , the palace walls on the menu, the prince the press a high prince versus the press a high court rules that prince court judge rules that prince harry was the victim of phone hacking. meanwhile, the sussexes want to spend time in a flat in kensington palace. is life really that tough for harry and meghan in us ? and then at meghan in the us? and then at five, this difficult five, it's this week's difficult conversation. natalie russell will be live in the studio now. natalie took part in the series my natalie took part in the series my your dad , but had to my mum, your dad, but had to survive a truly traumatic childhood sent to childhood which saw her sent to five prison, five times, dealing with abuse from a very young age and being brought up in a broken home before she turned her life around and now works as a self—esteem and relationship coach. you won't want to miss her she'll be me at her story. she'll be with me at five. stay tuned for that one. all of that coming up in the next hour. me what you next hour. tell me what you think everything we're think on everything we're discussing. views discussing. email gb views gb news. or me at . gb

news. com or tweet me at. gb news. com or tweet me at. gb news. all right . let's get news. all right. let's get started. let's welcome again to my panel broadcast from columnist lizzie cundy and also a former labour party adviser, matthew laza leza . good to be matthew laza leza. good to be with you too, man. okay, so lizzie cundy, i'm going to start with you because you have met meghan. >> what i mean, and gary lineker, well, i know them both. i actually was with gary uh, quite recently, my friend very kindly sat me right next to him. i think she was hoping for a little bit of trouble, but he was very, very nice to me. >> the fact is, what can >> but the fact is, what can we do mouth the day? he do with mouth of the day? he just stop. he can't just can't stop. he can't help himself and lineker once won the golden boot that was back in 1986. i think. now i think he should be given the boot from the bbc. this has gone on for too much . they even changed the too much. they even changed the guideline rules to suit him and now he's gone yet again to do this and what he's actually doing is mocking and taking the

mickey out of the bbc and us who pay mickey out of the bbc and us who pay his wages. >> let's not forget 1.35 million a year. why why is the bbc paying a year. why why is the bbc paying this man this much? why are they so scared of him now? tim davie looked very , very tim davie looked very, very scared. he doesn't know what to do with gary. scared. but i tell you something, and i've heard this from a very close source. you know who's in his ear? alastair campbell, alastair campbell is writing these for gary. i mean, how did he know? how do you know that for sure? well, i know they're very close. you know, i've heard a very you know, i've heard on a very good terms allegedly, good terms that allegedly, alastair campbell is helping gary . and i think gary lineker. and i think actually wants to leave the actually gary wants to leave the bbc because then he'll come out as socialist champagne as this socialist champagne socialist hero will be hero worshipped, um, by all the lefties. and as you know, there's big money in it. >> well, it just seems a bit odd. look gary's not here to defend himself, so not defend himself, so we're not like, we're not having like, you know, we're not having particularly a go at him, but it's more the that he works it's more the fact that he works at he to speak. at the bbc, he is free to speak. but work for the bbc,

but if you work for the bbc, there are certain guidelines because paying because the taxpayer is paying for licence fee payer for you or the licence fee payer is you. so it is your is paying for you. so it is your role, as one the role, especially as one of the highest and highest profile highest paid and highest profile presenters, to respect that and respect british public. and respect the british public. and i personally feel like he's taking the mickey. >> . look, i mean, >> absolutely. look, i mean, this worship this lefty doesn't worship gary because gary is because the thing about gary is i with some of what i might agree with some of what he says. i don't agree with everything says about rwanda. everything he says about rwanda. i with everything i don't agree with everything he says about other things, but some says, i do agree some of what he says, i do agree with, that doesn't matter with, but that doesn't matter whether you disagree, whether you agree or disagree, there them's rules there is rules and them's rules should stuck to. that's should be stuck to. that's right. and key right. you know, and the key thing rules have thing for the bbc is rules have to to everybody because to apply to everybody because rules junior rules apply to the most junior researcher starting their career at they apply to at the bbc. they should apply to the paid person at the the highest paid person at the bbc you know, if it bbc as well. and you know, if it is that alastair campbell is true that alastair campbell is true that alastair campbell is involved and his podcast is alastair is alastair campbell's podcast is done do done by gary lineker, they do work so who knows? but work together, so who knows? but if people like if that is the case, people like alastair be careful alastair and should be careful because wish because careful what you wish for because gary is not interested labour interested in the labour party, he's interested in in gary lineker's brand brand, lineker , lineker's brand brand, lineker, which building up which he thinks he's building up this of, you know, woke

this kind of, you know, woke sort of left brand. if the labour government if we have one in a few months or years time does he doesn't like, it does things he doesn't like, it will tweeting as well. will be tweeting away as well. and he'll breaking and of course he'll be breaking the absolutely. the rules. absolutely. because, you know, if labour does something migrants something tough on migrants and the sort of lefty liberals don't like he'll be attacking it. like it, he'll be attacking it. i lot of people i mean, because a lot of people who letter are who signed that letter are people brian cox, who left people like brian cox, who left morrissey, morrissey, who people like brian cox, who left morrismorrissey morrissey, who people like brian cox, who left morrismorrissey nstillsey, who people like brian cox, who left morrismorrissey nstill loyal/ho david morrissey is still loyal to brian cox left to labour, but brian cox left the labour party to the the labour party to go to the snp. i remember having a conversation, boss ed conversation, my old boss ed miliband, so, you miliband, about it, so, you know, to careful know, people have to be careful that celebrities, they tend to take a of liberal position take a sort of liberal position rather than one that's particularly rather than one that's particulacould come a and you could come to haunt a labour government. >> a bit like what >> well, it's a bit like what greg svenson said when ron desantis moved the migrants close posh area close to in a very posh area where the posh people lived, they first say, they were the first ones to say, get of here. so that's get them out of here. so that's the isn't these the problem, isn't it? these people never, have to the problem, isn't it? these pe

millions. there is. know, millions. there he is. you know, bleating tower . it's bleating on from his tower. it's so hypocritical. and there's the man that, you know, went to the world cup in qatar and was like trying to avert your signal, as you know that he's the do gooden you know that he's the do gooder. i mean, come on, man, seriously, i think we've all had enough. i know a lot of people are actually very upset with this want to pay for this and don't want to pay for the licence anymore, and why the bbc licence anymore, and why aren't putting money aren't they putting their money into talent to come into new sort of talent to come on, i think it's time for gary to go and let him do his politics. it's, you know, and he can talk. you know, freely. nobody tweet whatever . nobody can tweet about whatever. he wants. nobody knows. well, the way the ratings went up last time the bbc tried to, uh, put him in the sin bin for a couple of weeks, some of his fellow commentators strike, commentators went on strike, and they programme they had to do the programme without any, any middle aged men sitting chuntering without any, any middle aged men sittingchattering huntering without any, any middle aged men sittingchattering hunteum, they away, chattering and, um, they ratings up. ratings went up. >> i think you two should present day >> i think you two should pre well, day >> i think you two should pre well, actually, day >> i think you two should pre well, actually, yeah.y >> i think you two should pre well, actually, yeah. i don't >> well, actually, yeah. i don't want women's voices, though. >> well, actually, yeah. i don't wara women's voices, though. >> well, actually, yeah. i don't wara lotnen's voices, though. >> well, actually, yeah. i don't wara lot of1's voices, though. >> well, actually, yeah. i don't wara lot of the 'oices, though. >> well, actually, yeah. i don't wara lot of the men , though. >> well, actually, yeah. i don't wara lot of the men , thou want. >> a lot of the men don't want. i'm suggesting myself i'm not suggesting myself because i don't because i know nothing i don't know anything about.

>> when lizzie >> still, remember when lizzie tried to explain the offside rule? have tried, rule? well, i have tried, and i'll you the break, but, i'll tell you in the break, but, look, you know, i'm sorry. >> gary was a great footballer. i great at i think he's great at presenting. day. presenting. match of the day. don't nose out of politics. >> nobody's speaking to me. >> nobody's speaking to me. >> i think i take. are you >> i don't think i take. are you going to take that back? he's not that good. >> i mean, there's other >> i mean, look, there's other people do it. >> i mean, look, there's other peothere's do it. >> i mean, look, there's other peothere's plenty) it. >> i mean, look, there's other peothere's plenty of . >> i mean, look, there's other peothere's plenty of other >> there's plenty of other younger or older talent younger talent or older talent or women or other experienced people present that people who could present that show and a good, if not show and do a good, if not better job than gary lineker. and wouldn't ask 1.35 and they wouldn't ask for 1.35 million. i have idea why the million. i have no idea why the bbc that that's he's bbc think that that's he's playing chicken with him. >> ridiculous . he's now >> it's ridiculous. he's now i'm. i'm sorry to say becoming a laughing stock. an laughing stock. he's an embarrassment. he's like the left of tucker left wing version of tucker carlson, which you all now carlson, which you all have now got sacked by fox news . and i'm got sacked by fox news. and i'm afraid bbc have got to get a afraid the bbc have got to get a backbone and they need to stand up to gary lineker. you're not bigger than the company. you are not. what's happening i >> -- >> and that's why i think samir shah mean he's saying, shah saying, i mean he's saying, okay, that the original okay, saying that the original letter have letter didn't but he may have uh, with the tweets. think uh, with the tweets. i think it's a pretty a prima facie

case. it's one thing supporting a there's a cause which there's questions whether as whether you should do that as bbc and what bbc presenter. and we know what the shouldn't be the rules say. you shouldn't be doing social media. but doing that on social media. but it's thing in, it's another thing engaging in, frankly, schoolboy banter, frankly, schoolboy style banter, not banter sort of schoolboy style insults . um, with a tory style insults. um, with a tory mp and the guy's a teacher. i don't agree with jonathan gullace much gullace on pretty much everything. think a everything. i don't think he's a great saying that, you great mp, but saying that, you know, flying, he know, being flying, he can't read. the stuff the playground. >> called, he said, for >> also, he called, he said, for shapps anneliese was funny. no, but the fact is he's but but but the fact is he's criticising that's criticising him. so that's funny. he's criticised him. funny. but he's criticised him. so you know, you could maybe argue the other one, maybe not criticising his supporting a cause, even that not cause, but even that he's not supposed affiliated. cause, but even that he's not supabsolutely. affiliated. >> absolutely. >> absolutely. >> to gary, get that >> i had to gary, get that information. yeah, exactly. >> i had to gary, get that inchxactly.. yeah, exactly. >> i had to gary, get that infc exactly. iteah, exactly. >> i had to gary, get that infc exactly. it would .actly. >> i had to gary, get that infc exactly. it would be ly. >> i had to gary, get that infc exactly. it would be through >> exactly. it would be through charitable we're charitable wikipedia if we're not of, uh, alastair campbell. >> and know what? it's >> and you know what? and it's actually i can understand why carol is a little bit carol vorderman is a little bit upset. she got boot and upset. she got the boot and she was a lower level, a lot was on a lower level, a lot nicer when i was at the bbc. >> i in trouble for saying >> i got in trouble for saying things and on an even things and i was on an even lower level than him and not really know, really doing, you know, as i

wasn't particularly necessarily really doing, you know, as i wasn't jpresentery necessarily really doing, you know, as i wasn't jpresentery nanythingy really doing, you know, as i wasn't jpresentery nanything i a news presenter or anything i was i was allowed to was doing. so i was allowed to make comments, but even make comments, but i didn't even make comments, but i didn't even make them the bbc. i made make them on the bbc. i made them else. so you them somewhere else. so you know, seem have know, other people seem to have i people, some i know some people, some colleagues i've worked with colleagues that i've worked with who the who don't do very much with the bbc, bit, and have bbc, do a little bit, and have beenin bbc, do a little bit, and have been in trouble for tweeting certain things and told to certain things and been told to take down. yeah. so take the tweets down. yeah. so gary he's got free gary seems like he's got a free pass. there's lots of people. so even at the a lot of even those at the bbc, a lot of those people be supporting even those at the bbc, a lot of thos goingyle be supporting even those at the bbc, a lot of thos goingyle because porting him going as well because i've got absolutely. >> colleague gary's >> my former colleague gary's got to walkers got a stick to just walkers crisps, that. and crisps, get on with that. and um, leave them. um, and leave them. >> not my favourite >> they're not even my favourite brand crisps. brand of crisps. >> well go. >> well there you go. >> well there you go. >> what do you >> well, listen, what do you think? in touch. views gb think? get in touch. gb views gb news. nana akua this think? get in touch. gb views gb n gpi. nana akua this think? get in touch. gb views gb n gp news nana akua this think? get in touch. gb views gb n gp news coming|na akua this think? get in touch. gb views gb n gp news coming up.akua this think? get in touch. gb views gb n gp news coming up. it's} this think? get in touch. gb views gb n gp news coming up. it's royal a gp news coming up. it's royal roundup time. angela levin will be give the latest be here to give us the latest from behind the palace walls. including, yes, high court including, yes, that high court judge awarding prince harry more than damages than £140,000 in damages following phone hacking following a phone hacking lawsuit group lawsuit against mirror group newspapers meanwhile, duke newspapers. meanwhile, the duke and sussex apparently and duchess of sussex apparently want spend time in flat want to spend time in their flat in kensington palace. really up next, it's time for the great british this hour i'm british debate this hour i'm

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so kevin, what what are your thoughts are we at thoughts on this then. are we at risk here? >> yes. the short answer to that is yes, we are at risk. >> we have no idea who is coming across the channel because they're destroying their documents . documents. >> and it is extremely easy to destroy your documents. >> come in. give you a name. >> uh, give any name. give any date of birth. give any address. >> we can't check up on you. and then after a couple of weeks in your five star hotel, you'll disappear. >> and that that is a huge problem. >> and it's something that people in the industry have been going on about for some time. >> it's a problem. >> it's a problem. >> well, it does seem to be odd because they've had the whole thing where they've sent some of the migrants back somewhere, and then the migrants have just vanished. they've vanished. so so. and they've lost what was it, 17,000? they said they lost recently, said that they lost recently, which is worrying sunil, what are thoughts this ? are your thoughts on this? they're losing who have they're losing people who have come or legally. come here illegally or legally. whatever however people want to

phrase this , are we at risk? phrase this, are we at risk? >> definitely . i think it's >> definitely. i think it's a massive, massive national security risk. i think we seem to be obsessed with handling this with delicacy or even political correctness, but this is a serious threat to our country in the sense of we have uncontrolled number of migrants coming in. uncontrolled number of migrants conwei in. know the >> we don't know the verification isn't necessarily the same as it is when we're doing the border checks, when people actually apply for visas . people actually apply for visas. you know, i think we should listen experts from these listen to the experts from these countries where they're coming from. at the from. if you look at the lebanese talked lebanese minister, he talked about people that about how 1 in 50 people that come syria links come from syria have links to isis. we look at the uae isis. if we look at the uae minister and you at what minister and you look at what the terms of the saudis say in terms of europe incubators of europe becoming incubators of terrorism, think we should terrorism, i think we should listen the people from that listen to the people from that region where these region where loads of these migrants from , rather migrants are coming from, rather than trying to handle this in a way that is the delicate and, um, that sort of, uh, way of thinking. i think we need to be a lot more firmer and stricter. henry bolton the answer is yes. >> it is a national security

threat . um, >> it is a national security threat. um, we are an enabling risk, if you like. i know for an absolute fact, because i was involved in the operation to that detected for individuals who were associated with what became islamic state being provided with false passports , provided with false passports, false driving licenses, and false driving licenses, and false id cards for a scandinavian country. but in a and they provided these documents in a country in the balkans and they had reached that country having been infiltrated into a people smuggling network as refugees. um, so that you've got that side of the threat as well. and there are there are a number of terrorist, uh, attack s that have taken place in europe that have taken place in europe that have been committed by people who have come in on a as asylum seekers and crime , heinous seekers and crime, heinous crimes as well, rapes, murders and so on. but in addition to that, i would say there's another dimension to this. and i think this is the one that we've just heard about, which is the deaung just heard about, which is the dealing it sensitivity dealing with it with sensitivity . seeing across europe

. we are seeing across europe now. the expression of foreign nationalism on, uh, on our streets . streets. >> and what do you mean by that? >> and what do you mean by that? >> well, so, for example, the palestinian—israeli conflict at the moment is, is in a, in a sense, playing out on the streets across the european continent . streets across the european continent. um, streets across the european continent . um, because now we continent. um, because now we have. continent. um, because now we have . so one of the things i've have. so one of the things i've said for over 20 years, if we are bringing in large numbers of people from parts of the world that very tragically find themselves in conflict , then themselves in conflict, then they are going to they're going to bring that conflict with them. it is going to play out on our streets, bringing in their own grievances. >> indeed. >> indeed. >> and we're one side >> and we're we're just one side of those grievances in sense. >> and we're we're just one side of tithey grievances in sense. >> and we're we're just one side of tithey happen es in sense. >> and we're we're just one side of tithey happen to in sense. >> and we're we're just one side of tithey happen to be sense. >> and we're we're just one side of tithey happen to be here.;e. but they happen to be here. >> can i bring kevin in on this? because you're a former chief immigration officer. for uk border force . so you must you border force. so you must you must be pulling your hair out. it looks like you've almost pulled it all out. actually i'm joking. you must be pulling your hair joking. you must be pulling your haiiyou're me. but i've been >> you're me. but i've been actually underneath this. >> seriously, must

>> uh, no, seriously, you must be thinking. to get be thinking. people need to get a grip . the government needs a grip. the government needs to get what do you think get a grip. what do you think they need to be doing? because we are all. and i'm not saying that migrants all. you can't have them coming. i don't mean that. mean that if you're that. i mean that if you're bringing uncheck it, bringing people in, uncheck it, then. bringing people in, uncheck it, then . then free for all. then. then it's a free for all. in end . in the end. >> yes it is. »- >> yes it is. >> it is a complete free for all. >> and we actually saw this, um, on the afghan flights coming out of kabul at the end of the, um, the afghan war. >> we saw people getting on to the, the british aeroplanes . we the, the british aeroplanes. we were able to do some checks , were able to do some checks, actually, on the aeroplane . actually, on the aeroplane. >> and we did discover for people that we would rather not have in the uk. so in fact, we took them straight back to afghanistan. >> so it happened as uh, and your, >> so it happened as uh, and your , your other two guests are your, your other two guests are spot on. it's happening in europe. we're seeing we're seeing problems in france almost every week with, uh, asylum

seekers and refugees murdering people. >> we've seen it also in scandinavia as well . scandinavia as well. >> it is a big, big problem . >> it is a big, big problem. >> it is a big, big problem. >> and we are by by allowing these people to enter into the uk , we are storing up trouble in uk, we are storing up trouble in the future. >> we really are. there will be another incident in the uk , but another incident in the uk, but of course the argument is that, you know, we need a level of migration in there are migration and in fact there are positive aspects to mass migration . migration. >> um, and those should be celebrated. and actually what is happening is a small sample and not really representative of the reality . sunil, am not really representative of the reality. sunil, am i, am i right in saying, yeah, i think the small sample are very loud sample. >> i think that's the big issue and they have a massive influence clearly even influence clearly on even british citizens , european british citizens, european citizens. even more than citizens. i think even more than just national security. we look at like, um, sweden, for example, you know, everyone likes to talk about liberal, amazing terms when amazing sweden in terms of when they took in a lot of migrants ,

they took in a lot of migrants, uh, 2016, 17, we saw . uh, during 2016, 17, we saw. around 4.9% of people coming from africa, iran, syria , iraq from africa, iran, syria, iraq contributing. now to 16. more than 16% of all rape or attempted rape. that is a 4 to 5% group of people that are doing around 16 to 17% of any sexual assault that goes on in that country. when you bring that country. when you bring that many people in on a mass scale and you don't have the facilities to integrate them, we're struggling as it is as a country. a lot of europe is suffering. know, we're suffering. you know, we're seeing the consequences of the wars that were involved in covid lockdowns. if we're already struggling as a country, we're now a massive now going to bring in a massive population people on on population of people on on controlled, unregulated , not controlled, unregulated, not done the proper checks. i think that's a serious, serious security threat. it's a different from 70s and 80s when we're bringing in people on when we're bringing in people on when we had a shortage of labour force, or we needed people in the industry. we're in a different but of different time now, but of course, is course, net migration, which is the, you know, the full figure. >> but those who have been

granted passage to this country legally is massive figure. and legally is a massive figure. and of course, those people we know about, actually a small about, it's actually a small proportion of people who are coming proportion of |othere who are proportion of |other meansre proportion of |other means .e proportion of |other means . and coming in via other means. and even, as you mentioned, sweden, 16% a small percentage , but 16% is a small percentage, but proportionately it is a large percentage of those in that country as well. listen, thank you so much forjoining me, sunil sharma , uh, chief sunil sharma, uh, chief operating officer for conservative friends of the commonwealth. also, henry bolton, security bolton, international security and expert, and and border control expert, and kevin former chief, kevin saunders, former chief, immigration officer the uk immigration officer for the uk border you much. border force. thank you so much. it's 4:00 here with me. it's 32 after 4:00 here with me. i'm this is gb news i'm nana akua. this is gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. coming up, we'll continue with the great british debate. this hour. i'm asking mass this hour. i'm asking is mass migration a threat to national security? hear the security? you'll hear the thoughts my panel. lizzie thoughts of my panel. lizzie cundy and matthew lazar . thoughts of my panel. lizzie cundy and matthew lazar. but first, let's get your latest news elizabeth . nana news with elizabeth. nana >> it'sjust news with elizabeth. nana >> it's just past 430. i'm elizabeth callahan in the gb

newsroom, an idf official says israeli hostages is mistakenly killed in gaza , have been killed in gaza, have been holding up a white flag . israeli holding up a white flag. israeli troops opened fire on yotam haim salma talansky and alon shamriz after they were missing. identified as a threat , they identified as a threat, they were killed in an area of intense fighting where hamas terrorists often wear civilian clothing and use deceptive tactics . the men were being held tactics. the men were being held hostage by hamas after being kidnapped on the 7th of october. rishi sunak has told a crowd in rome that there's nothing conservative about allow my country's sovereignty to be violated. he's in italy , meeting violated. he's in italy, meeting prime minister giorgia meloni to discuss ways to tackle illegal migration. he said that both he and the italian leader are committed to breaking the business models of people smugglers. today's meeting comes a day after 292 migrants crossed the english channel in seven small boats, bringing the total

so far this year to . 29,500. so far this year to. 29,500. well on to some breaking news now, and a second migrant has died after another small boat emergency in the channel. it comes after a separate incident in which a sudanese national died of dunkirk this morning . died of dunkirk this morning. another two migrants are missing after that rescue, where a small boat carrying more than 60 people got into difficulty . a people got into difficulty. a man suspected of piloting the boat has been arrested by french police . the incidents take the police. the incidents take the total number of confirmed migrants deaths so far in the channel this year to ten. police . in norwich say there's no indication of third party involvement after a body was recovered in the for search missing woman gaynor lord. that's after authorities carried out a postmortem examination. norfolk police say the body will be formally identified . died be formally identified. died tomorrow . well, you can get more

tomorrow. well, you can get more on all of those stories by visiting our website , gb visiting our website, gb news.com. now it's back to . nana. >> thank you. elizabeth, 35 after four. this is gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua. coming up, royal biographer angela levin will be live in the studio with the latest from behind the palace walls in our royal roundup. but up next, it's time for the great british debate hour. and british debate this hour. and i'm is mass migration i'm asking is mass migration a threat security

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are coming to this country. of course we have a whole load of legal migration as well, which , legal migration as well, which, you know, the government are looking through. but bottom looking through. but the bottom line of the day, line is, at the end of the day, are doing the right checks ? are they doing the right checks? is migration a threat to is mass migration a threat to our national security, especially end up with especially when we end up with a multiculturalism , which are lots multiculturalism, which are lots of pockets of cultures where people simply don't integrate? well get thoughts of well let's get the thoughts of my and my panel, broadcaster and columnist also columnist lizzie cundy, also former adviser former labour party adviser matthew laza matthew lazor. >> so i think that the biggest threat to our national security from the cases from migration are the cases that piling up with people that are piling up with people in hotels, and we haven't been handled properly and haven't been screened properly. and that's i think that's why, you know, i think it's vitally important that the backlog, which you know, is, is now about, uh, now i think about, uh, uh, 55,000 or something on one measure. um, it just needs to be sorted out. and that's why labour's made it its number one pledge to get that backlog done. finally, . backlog sorted. >> but but the problem is and send people back who shouldn't be civil service be here. but the civil service as very sort of as we know, are very sort of left and the home office left wing. and the home office in particular, we've

in particular, and we've heard them, heard rumours of them, we've heard rumours of them, we've heard rumours of them saying, no, well, not them saying, no, well, we're not going to do anything whilst this government are in. >> i mean, they >> well, i mean, i mean, they shouldn't be doing because shouldn't be doing that because they if they they should be. i mean, if they are that will are then hopefully that will stop. is change of stop. if there is a change of government, but they shouldn't be doing it anyway. we've be doing it anyway. but we've got these because be doing it anyway. but we've gotcan't these because be doing it anyway. but we've gotcan't have these because be doing it anyway. but we've gotcan't have peoplezse because be doing it anyway. but we've gotcan't have people sitting ause be doing it anyway. but we've gotcan't have people sitting inse we can't have people sitting in hotels local hotels just dumped in local communities. know who communities. we don't know who people have people are. some may have a legitimate as legitimate right to be here as asylum seekers. some may not and legitimate right to be here as asyperfectlyers. some may not and legitimate right to be here as asyperfectly innocent. may not and legitimate right to be here as asyperfectly innocent. and! not and be perfectly innocent. and there may apples, um, may be a few bad apples, um, mixed there, but we don't mixed in there, but we don't know. the not knowing. know. and it's the not knowing. and of course, i was speaking the day to a social worker the other day to a social worker who seekers who works with asylum seekers and was telling me and she says she was telling me some horrific stories of some pretty horrific stories of the the hotels in the conditions in the hotels in terms of the younger terms of how some of the younger people you people are treated and, you know, to stop. know, etc. so it's got to stop. so that's that's seems to be the biggest threat to security. biggest threat to our security. but own have a but we have our own have a system that works functions, system that works for functions, but also do have our own but we also do have our own home grown. do grown. of course we do absolutely we're absolutely bad things. and we're not all people not saying that it's all people there. but of course, if you don't who's who, you don't don't know who's who, you don't know don't know who anybody is. you don't know who anybody is. you don't know they're good or know whether they're good or bad. cundy, it's out bad. lizzie cundy, it's out of

control, illegal? >> so out of control. and >> it's so out of control. and look, and i've said before, i live in a small little village and you've mentioned hotels and you've mentioned the hotels where this beautiful hotel. we used weddings and events used to have weddings and events at, with at, it's now packed full with military and school military aged men and the school next door bring the kids next door can't bring the kids across . even across the road. across. even across the road. parents scared . it's parents are scared. it's affecting lives and we're affecting our lives and we're only small islands. we can only take so many and it affects every aspect of our life, from nhs to, you know, getting a doctor's appointment. you get more luck with meeting the pope. um, in every aspect of our lives, it's affecting . and i'm lives, it's affecting. and i'm sorry, the protesters seem to be growing. um there's, there's more clashes we recently saw in merseyside. just a few months ago, and it's just the cultural and social differences as well. it's very frightening . and as it's very frightening. and as you said, it's costing us 8.5 million a day to keep them in hotels. it's and 180 still yet to be processed east. um, we're in a lot of trouble. and there we have rishi in italy today

with with malone having a right old loving. well, i'm sorry, it's all too little, too late. and what he should have done is seriously got some backbone. instead of being like a jellyfish and literally got rid of the echr , you know, supported of the echr, you know, supported suella because her hands were obviously tied and i'm being more like the australia turn the boats back or either got as you said before, nana like a big boat cruise ship and put them on and process them quickly or use our uk territories that we've got south georgia, we have the falklands instead of using that rwanda money, 240 million, 50 million pending put that it would have been a lot less money because the judges couldn't have objected to south georgia because they that south because they go to that south georgia centres georgia get detention centres there, quickly . there, process them quickly. what they're doing, first order of any government is to look after its own people, and we're not after. not being looked after. >> know, gary lineker >> but, you know, gary lineker and others probably and the others will probably still complain about that. they literally complain about anything. nothing offer. >> $- @ it's getting offer. >> it's getting through >> for me, it's getting through and processing the applications which are, as says, which are, as you says, are piling know what

piling up. do you know what percentage of people who arrived on last have on a small boat last year have had a decision? 4. >> 1? >> one 1, 1? »- >> one 1, 1? >> um, and then obviously less than that have been sent back because so that's it's because so that's absurd. it's absurd. system is completely collapsed. >> say but there's >> you say that, but there's the home be accountable home office must be accountable for this because it's a social ministers who've been supervising it for 13 years. but the who are the civil servants who are administering the policy of our ministers is their role to ministers that is their role to be doing that. so i don't understand what's holding them back, we back, why they can only do we need send the civil servants need to send the civil servants to to process to south georgia to process them or really quickly. >> hurry up. it's >> then they'd hurry up. it's quite honestly. no, but quite cold, honestly. no, but this, this is out control. this, this is out of control. this is an emergency. >> not. but when i >> but they're not. but when i say migration, remember, say mass migration, remember, we've also got migration. we've also got legal migration. that's ridiculous levels as well. that level, we're well. and for that level, we're talking simulation into talking about a simulation into british culture. and that's where i think i think the i think the issue there is, if you're people you're having 700,000 people coming variety of coming from a huge variety of countries, do you do you countries, how do you how do you integrate people at that pace? >> i think anybody say >> and i think anybody would say that challenge. that that's a challenge. >> it will make pockets of >> well, it will make pockets of when there those race riots when there were those race riots in the under the labour

government. >> the report really good >> the report was a really good report commissioned report was commissioned and it said separate said equal but separate communities, living well, communities, people living well, that's multiculturalism. although that is a danger. >> students that >> the foreign students that bnng >> the foreign students that bring their independence, bring all their independence, you and dad and uncle you know mum and dad and uncle and of them don't speak and a lot of them don't speak english. very difficult english. it's very difficult and that's english. it's very difficult and tha and it's not good for the >> and it's not good for the people who are being brought because people who are being brought becthere nothing without you >> there is nothing without you and your views. let's welcome our great voices, their our great british voices, their opportunity to be on the show and they think and tell us what they think about we're about the topics we're discussing, we go? discussing, where should we go? where back? oh yes, where should we go back? oh yes, we got here. we got back here. >> yeah, yeah, get >> yeah, yeah, let's get bristol. >> have a chat with the >> let's have a chat with the lee harris lee mouse migration. is it a threat to national security in my view, yes. >> um , controlled, legal and >> um, controlled, legal and illegal migration both come with real risks to national security. >> and for years, we've been lied to and put at risk by successive governments. and it's frankly, a disgrace. the first and most, you know, obvious problem is illegal migration. and most, you know, obvious prob poses illegal migration. and most, you know, obvious prob poses a legal migration. and most, you know, obvious prob poses a bigal migration. and most, you know, obvious prob poses a big securityion. and most, you know, obvious prob poses a big security risk this poses a big security risk as thousands of undocumented migrants are entering the uk illegally, and we've completely lost control of the process. we

don't know where they're coming from, they are, what their from, who they are, what their history often history is, and they often disappear without disappear into society without any at all. hamas already any checks at all. hamas already have an extensive network across europe, and this would be the obvious route for them to gain entry into the uk. >> only last month, uh, security services announced that they're looking for six terror suspects that originate syria and that originate in syria and arrived on small boats. >> m15 have already confirmed that there are 40,000 on a terror watch list, and that figure is three years old. >> i expect that to be much higher now. >> terror attacks in the uk have been directly linked to asylum seekers. mass legal seekers. um and mass legal migration is also a major concern, especially if you look at the, you know, pro—palestine or hate marches as suella braverman rightly named them. we are now acutely aware that there are now acutely aware that there are vast numbers of people in the uk that do not share our values, and we've seen a huge rise in anti—semitism and calls of violence. it's been a real eye so to directly eye opener. so to directly answer the answer your question, the government demonstrably lost government has demonstrably lost control our borders. and this

control of our borders. and this most definitely poses a national security risk. >> listen, thank you very much, lee harris. so succinct, so good. yeah. and the map. yeah. thank you. um, the map as well. that was lee harris in bristol. yes we have the map back as well. and actually on his point with regard to the palestine marches, david says, hi, nana. i hope next weekend's palestine support cancelled support marches are cancelled out the nation's out of respect for the nation's christmas as well. christmas celebrations as well. i wonder ? i wonder? >> we'll see hear chants outside my window from march. my window today from the march. yeah >> every saturday. >> every saturday. >> maybe not. well, maybe. >> well, maybe not. well, maybe. maybe there are. some them maybe there are. some of them will start celebrating christmas with us. but anyway, would will start celebrating christmas withthink?1t anyway, would will start celebrating christmas withthink? but|yway, would will start celebrating christmas withthink? but listen. would will start celebrating christmas withthink? but listen. excuseyuld will start celebrating christmas withthink? but listen. excuse me you think? but listen. excuse me . how would you like to win £10,000 in cash? well and brand new tech and shopping vouchers . new tech and shopping vouchers. well, you could be the winner of our very first great british giveaway. here's details giveaway. here's all the details on you make those on how you could make those pnzes on how you could make those prizthis is your chance to win >> this is your chance to win three amazing prizes that will get your new year off to a great start. first, there's a terrific £10,000 in cash to be won.

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>> this is a gb news. good afternoon. we're live on tv, onune afternoon. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua now. there's always something going on in the royal household and this week has been no different. a high court judge ruled prince harry was the ruled that prince harry was the victim phone hacking, and the victim of phone hacking, and the sussexes are apparently planning victim of phone hacking, and the suspend are apparently planning victim of phone hacking, and the suspend are ain arently planning victim of phone hacking, and the suspend are ain kensingtonlning to spend time in kensington palace. also, a two part final instalment of the crown features william king, tony blair william kate king, tony blair what i hear you say. william kate king, tony blair what i hear you say . well, every what i hear you say. well, every saturday i love to give you a rundown. and who better to do that royal biographer that than royal biographer angela angela, let's get angela levin? angela, let's get stuck right? stuck in, right? >> but falling down >> oops. but not falling down and ladies in red . and stuck in ladies in red. >> angela. well prince harry, as

we know, should know he lost 18, uh, things about the hacking out of 33. >> and although i'm furious with him for so many things he's said and done, i think that's okay. that he wins some money. >> he wanted mass is more than he's given 146,000, which is probably peanuts to him . probably peanuts to him. >> um, but i think he was only 11 when this started . and i 11 when this started. and i think that's very, um, unkind to do that to a young boy who's had you know, before his mother , uh, you know, before his mother, uh, was very unhappy home and all the rest of it. um, but otherwise he's an absolute nightmare. i mean, i'm going to jump nightmare. i mean, i'm going to jump him into the crown, and they actually got to jump straight into the crown. straight into the crown, and he at one of the series , he's at one of the series, he's having tea with his mother and his, not his mother with his grandmother and his great grandmother and his great grandmother and his great grandmother and various other members of the family, prince hassan and he suddenly gives

william a whole load of more packages and, um, the queen says , what on earth is that? and he says , they're condoms. and he'll says, they're condoms. and he'll need them , don't you? this is in need them, don't you? this is in the crown. yes he'll need them, and he'll be very grateful to me to say that in a in a in a thing like the crown , which i'm sure like the crown, which i'm sure 100% is not true. he's not that appalling. and that's really what the crown is like. it's like the end game writ large, you know, everybody's hopeless. the queen is very nervous. she's crying. she thinks she's going to be thrown off the throne . off to be thrown off the throne. off the throne for king. um uh, king charles. king charles. no, no, no, not for king charles. for, um, the parliamentary leader , um, the parliamentary leader, tony. um, the parliamentary leader, tony . blair tony. blair >> oh, tony blair. tony blair. no, that and she is all about her death and, um, that gets the

piper to come and play the song that he thinks will be the best one once she's dead. >> so we see this woman shrivelling up , which she didn't shrivelling up, which she didn't do at all. and you also see three other actresses who've played the queen telling her off for what she did and hasn't done so there are all these ghosts are coming in talking to her about it. i mean, it is really ridiculous what is lovely is the meeting between william and catherine, which is done very sweetly and quite kindly , and sweetly and quite kindly, and there is a very nice working between the two of them. but but otherwise it is absolute full of nonsense and unkindness to every one of the royal family. >> but haven't they got the scene with harry in the nazi outfit? but of course, even that it wasn't his fault because his brother told him to do it. that's the thing about that's the other thing about about that's the other thing about aboyes , yes. um, i wondered >> yes, yes. um, i wondered whether he them say that whether he told them to say that about william. well, he put it in because. >> did not it in his book

>> did he not put it in his book in spare? so they did. >> might just also >> but they might have just also added to him. and he's added that to him. and he's blaming which blaming william, which is nonsense. was 20 years old. nonsense. he was 20 years old. now, brother sister now, if your brother or sister said you should do for said what you should do for a dress party, you'd say , no, no, dress party, you'd say, no, no, leave me alone. i'm not going to do that. >> but hasn't he got a mind of his own anyway, even if he's 20? >> of course he did. >> of course he did. >> if that is true, which >> even if that is true, which i doubt very much. but even if it is what? you can't make a you is so what? you can't make a you can bring a horse water, but is so what? you can't make a you can can't a horse water, but is so what? you can't make a you can can't a horzit water, but is so what? you can't make a you can can't a horzit drink. :er, but is so what? you can't make a you can can't a horzit drink. yes, ut you can't make it drink. yes, you can't make it drink. yes, you to put it on. you have to put it on. >> do you know, i mean, it's really shocking actually. um, prince across okay. prince and comes across okay. the queen mother and, uh, does not come across okay. she comes across as really dopey, which she never was . and it's such a she never was. and it's such a miserable negative thing on the whole, royal family that it was obviously done in that way to end the royal family altogether. just as the series ends. >> well, it's supposed to be a sort of like a it sounds it sounds like a comedy, actually, to be honest, it's really

depressing. is it? well, that's fabulous. royal biographer angela levin. she wrote prince harry's biography . yes. don't harry's biography. yes. don't you know? well, stay tuned. difficult conversations is on the way. more to come in the next hour . next hour. this is gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. for the next hour, me and my panel will be taking on some of the big topics hitting the headlines right now. coming though, right now. coming up, though, this difficult this week's difficult conversation, by conversation, i'll be joined by reality was jailed five reality star who was jailed five times. yes, you heard that times. so yes, you heard that before entered. my mum . your before she entered. my mum. your dad? diving deeper into dad? i'll be diving deeper into her chaotic past and then for the great british debate this houn the great british debate this hour, i'm asking prince versus the press. who is the biggest loser? prince harry, the press. who do you think? or nobody? but first, let's get your latest headunes first, let's get your latest headlines with elizabeth . headlines with elizabeth. >> thanks , nana, and good >> thanks, nana, and good

afternoon. it's a few minutes past five. i'm elizabeth callahan in the gb newsroom . i'm callahan in the gb newsroom. i'm an idf official says israeli hostages mistakenly killed in gaza have been shirtless and holding up a white flag . israeli holding up a white flag. israeli troops opened fire on yotam haim. salma talaki and alon shamriz after they were misidentified as a threat. they were killed in an area of intense fighting where hamas terrorists often wear civilian clothing and used deceptive tactics. the men were being held hostage by hamas after being kidnapped on the 7th of october. the uk and italy have agreed to finance a plan to return migrants to tunisia , as the migrants to tunisia, as the prime minister warned that illegal migration could overwhelm european countries . overwhelm european countries. rishi sunak addressed a crowd in rome today after meeting with italian prime minister giorgia meloni. the agreement will see the two countries assist in the voluntary return of migrants

currently stuck in tunisia, which neighbours italy and is often used as a gateway to europe. the prime minister says it's now more important than ever to tackle . illegal migration. >> if we do not tackle this problem, the numbers will only grow. it will overwhelm our countries and our capacity to help those who actually need our help those who actually need our help the most . the cost of help the most. the cost of accommodating these people will anger our citizens , who won't anger our citizens, who won't understand why their money should have to be spent on deaung should have to be spent on dealing with the consequences of this evil trade. it will destroy the public's faith, not just in us as politicians, but in our very systems of government . very systems of government. >> meanwhile, a second migrant has died after another small boat emergency in the channel. it comes after a separate incident in which a sudanese national died off dunkirk this morning. another two migrants are missing after that rescue, where a small boat carrying more than 60 people got into

difficulty . a man suspected of difficulty. a man suspected of piloting the boat has been arrested by french police. the incidents take the total of confirmed migrant deaths in the channel so far this year to ten. police in norwich say there is no indication of third party involvement after a body was recovered in the search for missing woman gaynor lord. that's after authorities carried out a post—mortem examination. norfolk police say the body will be formally identified tomorrow . be formally identified tomorrow. tomorrow . british schoolboy alex tomorrow. british schoolboy alex batty , who went missing six batty, who went missing six years ago in spain, is expected to return to the uk today . the to return to the uk today. the 17 year old was just 11 when he vanished with his mother and grandfather. he was found on thursday in france after leaving the spiritual commune, where he was living with his mother. and it's his grandmother who has legal custody, says she can't wait for them to be reunited . wait for them to be reunited. a royal navy destroyer has shot down a suspected attack drone

targeting merchant shipping in the red sea . defence secretary the red sea. defence secretary grant shapps says that hms diamond hit the target overnight with a sea viper missile , while with a sea viper missile, while the ship recently arrived in the region as part of efforts to increase its maritime security . increase its maritime security. donald trump's former lawyer rudy giuliani is to appeal after being ordered to pay more than £116 million for defaming two women. giuliani claimed that surveillance footage showed two election workers wandrea shaye moss and her mother , ruby moss and her mother, ruby freeman, concealing and counting suitcases filled with illegal ballots. they received a deluge of racist messages, including threats and lynching, and were forced to relocate . giuliani forced to relocate. giuliani falsely claimed he'd been blocked from presenting his own evidence , and described the evidence, and described the payment as absurd . police have payment as absurd. police have released cctv images of three men wanted for questioning after

graffiti relating to the israel—hamas conflict was sprayed onto a mps office. the constituency office of farrell, clark , who is the mp for enfield clark, who is the mp for enfield north, was vandalised last month. police say they've examined footage from the local area and appealing for anyone with information on the men to contact them. the rac says petrol prices have fallen to their lowest level in more than two years. a litre of unleaded petrol now costs an average of 140 £0.02, a price not seen since the end of october 2021. however diesel prices have not fallen . the news comes during fallen. the news comes during one of the busiest times of year one of the busiest times of year on the roads, with experts saying prices will continue to fall steadily every day in the run up to christmas . this is gb run up to christmas. this is gb news across the uk on tv, in your car and on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play gb news now it's back to nana. bye for now .

back to nana. bye for now. >> good afternoon. this is gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua and for the next hour, me and my panel will be taking on some of the big topics hitting the headunes the big topics hitting the headlines right now . this show headlines right now. this show is about opinion . it's mine, is all about opinion. it's mine, it's theirs. and of course it's yours. we'll be debating discussing and at we will discussing and at times we will disagree. no one will be disagree. but no one will be cancelled. so joining me this hour broadcast from columnist lizzie cundy also former labour party adviser matthew lazar. still to come, my difficult conversation today is single mum natalie russell, who was put forward by her son to take part in the reality tv show my mum, your dad . but before entering your dad. but before entering the programme she was actually jailed five times and battled substance abuse as well, which also led to stints in rehab facilities . you really won't facilities. you really won't want to miss her story. she's live in the next few moments and then for the great british debate this hour , i'm asking the debate this hour, i'm asking the prince the press, is prince versus the press, who is the biggest loser? is it prince

harry, the press or nobody? seeing as the duke of sussex has been burned by his battle with the press, but will feel vindicated by the phone hacking verdict? i'm asking the prince versus the press who is the biggest loser in your eyes? is it harry or the press or it prince harry or the press or perhaps nobody that perhaps nobody loses in that one. and then for my mini debate, what does it mean to be working class? you might know what it means to be working class, i'm sir keir what it means to be working class, does. sir keir what it means to be working class, does. he's sir keir what it means to be working class, does. he's the sir keir what it means to be working class, does. he's the labour starmer does. he's the labour leader. backlash as leader. he faced backlash as he couldn't difference couldn't tell the difference between the working class and the classes . so is it the middle classes. so is it time to educate him a little bit later on? stay tuned. i love a bit of that . as email gb bit of that. as ever. email gb views gb news. com or tweet me at . gb news views gb news. com or tweet me at. gb news sophia wenzler. approaching eight minutes after 5:00 and it's time now for this week's difficult conversation. now my guest is a contestant from the dating series my mum, your dad , and she opens up about your dad, and she opens up about her tumultuous past. now she's a

single mother with she's candidly nominated by her son to take part in this, aiming to give her a chance at finding happiness. now this individual is self, a self esteem and relationship coach , but faced a relationship coach, but faced a troubled history of addiction , troubled history of addiction, multiple prison sentences and a stint in psychiatric and psychiatric hospital. but despite her turbulent past, she is determined to break the cycle, seeking love after years in therapy self—discovery . in therapy and self—discovery. i'm pleased to say that the fabulous star for my mum, your dad, natalie russell, is here. hello, natalie. hi you don't open up by saying i've been in prison five times, darling . prison five times, darling. hahahahaha! i'm a catch up. yeah, this is it. >> there's no point. >> there's no point. >> normally lay as the foundation when you first go on a date. >> is it ? >> is it? >> is it? >> everyone likes to keep their partied and but being on the show i knew that my history was going to come out. you weren't in the first few times of dating someone exposed that history.

but i knew it was going to come out. >> so yeah, so, so talk to me about your story because it seems quite incredible . seems quite incredible. >> go on, start, start me from where it all started to happen for you. so where were you born and what was your childhood like and what was your childhood like and where did it all? >> oh gosh, we'd be here forever if i told you whole story. if i told you the whole story. >> yeah, i started. i grew >> but yeah, i started. i grew up in a high rise flats in denham , um, in buckinghamshire, denham, um, in buckinghamshire, and, and my dad left when i was 18 months old. so my mum was a single parent. um, and, and what i've learned is that unless you do, uh, learn to change the narrative, you repeat the patterns. that's very true. so thatis patterns. that's very true. so that is exactly what i've done. um, because . cause it took me um, because. cause it took me a long time to heal. but, yeah, there were lots of different traumas in my formative years growing up. um, and not. >> what do you remember that would the things that you remember. because when i think of my childhood, i think of the smell of the canteen and all

that sort of thing. what what do you think of. >> i do think of sitting, waiting for my dad to show up and not turning up and being and him not turning up and being very upset that. there very upset about that. there were things were some beautiful things in my childhood, my mum tried her childhood, like my mum tried her hardest , but she was a childhood, like my mum tried her hardest, but she was a single mum trying to provide and um, and to make ends and struggling to make ends meet. um, and had her own, you know , backstory and challenges . know, backstory and challenges. um, so yeah, she tried to her best, but, um , there was also best, but, um, there was also outside of the family home, sexual abuse when i was younger. so i think that that it, uh, has played a huge role in my story unfolding . um, so i think father unfolding. um, so i think father . yes. and that experience and struggles financially , there was struggles financially, there was always a financial struggle . and always a financial struggle. and i think then unfolding, my mum remarried, but, uh , there wasn't remarried, but, uh, there wasn't that relationship or attachment with my stepdad. and how old were you when she remarried? uh, about six. okay. um, six. seven. and they went on to have my

other brother and sister , and i other brother and sister, and i had an older sister. >> do you get on with them? >> do you get on with them? >> yeah, yeah . that's good. >> yeah, yeah. that's good. yeah, i get, i get on well with my brothers and sisters, but so my brothers and sisters, but so my stepdad left and my mum was left with two. yeah. so left again with two. yeah. so i think there was just a lot of financial pressure. >> what was that relationship like then her relationship with him . him. >> uh, i try to not talk too much about that because obviously this you know, obviously this is, you know, that's and sister's that's my brother and sister's dad, but i think there were a lot of challenges there, you know, wasn't an easy know, um, it wasn't an easy relationship. so i think all of that, um , and me battling with that, um, and me battling with my own emotions, i think back then people didn't talk as much . then people didn't talk as much. there wasn't an understanding of trauma and how that played out. and i think that i acted out a lot , and i and i think that i acted out a lot, and i don't think my mum so, so, so give us some timelines then, because i see you as a six year old, you get a new dad, but he's, you know , new dad, but he's, you know, then eventually you get brothers and sisters. >> yeah. then they split up. yeah. how you when it

yeah. how old were you when it started to go? you know, when you of fall you started to sort of fall really, go off. and what, really, really go off. and what, what did it manifest itself? what how did it manifest itself? i'd 11 probably started i'd say age 11 probably started that was when i really was aware of the experiences i'd had when i was younger. >> i think i had this desperate craving for approval and love. um, and i started to look in all the wrong places for it. i i didn't know how to navigate my emotions . didn't know how to navigate my emotions. um, and i think my mum had so much to juggle . had so much to juggle. >> so what did it what form did that take? >> self—harm at first. so um. and an acting out , um, and then and an acting out, um, and then i think when you say acting out, what do you mean? uh, pretending to take overdoses, doing lots of things to try and get emotional needs met. i think, um, yeah, we just weren't in an era where we talked and, uh , i think that talked and, uh, i think that i attempted all the things i used to shoplift from , from age 11 to shoplift from, from age 11 because we were financially

strapped and we lived in an area where other people had money. i felt a constant shame about the fact that we didn't. and . the fact that we didn't. and. the first time i shoplifted, it was to give presents to people. it was. it was because i wanted something , and i was really sad . something, and i was really sad. my mum marched me back to boots . my mum marched me back to boots. she found all of the stuff and marched me back. so then i had to deal with the shame of giving it yeah, confessing it back and uh, yeah, confessing and then going to school and not having presents to give when everyone else did so i think there was always a lot shame there was always a lot of shame that about experience that i felt about my experience is our situation . i think i was is our situation. i think i was the only one without a dad present that i knew. um, so all of that bought into the story , of that bought into the story, and then, um , when did you first and then, um, when did you first find yourself in prison? >> what happened? >> what happened? >> 717 so i started abusing cannabis around the age of 12. and i think that that led to putting myself around the wrong people. and that started to escalate onto other drugs when i

was about 14, 15. um, and then i was about 14, 15. um, and then i was about 14, 15. um, and then i was a victim of an assault where iended was a victim of an assault where i ended up pregnant and had a termination at 14 one half. so so and again, where we're we were in an era where people didn't talk. doctor gabor mate talks about trauma, not just being the event that happened , being the event that happened, but being alone with the emotions of those events. and i, i just didn't know how to emotionally process all of that. and it led to a lot of self—hate and i think that just unfolded into the abusive relationships i got into , um, which added more got into, um, which added more trauma , more self pain. trauma, more self pain. >> so you were in prison at 17, 17 and, and that was that for stealing? >> yeah , it was theft that was >> yeah, it was theft that was related to substance abuse. um, so once you get caught in that cycle , it's so hard to break cycle, it's so hard to break out. really. so i think it's about 5% of people that manage to break free from that cycle.

so yeah, it's a very tough journey. um, to, to come out. and so that, that took me a long time. i did five rehabs. yeah um, by the age of 21, um, and in prison five times. but i think that last time in prison was a real massive turning point. >> so when was the last time you were in prison? how old were you and why did you end up in prison then? >> uh, it was when, um, it was the twin towers, because was the day before the twin towers happened , was the last time happened, was the last time i went in, um, and i think it was really that was quite pivotal for me watching that. um, and watching the trauma unfold and, um. yeah there was something that shifted in me , and i made that shifted in me, and i made a friend in prison who's also come out to do amazing things with her life. and i think that that relationship was a healthy relationship was a healthy relationship at last, which is

what you needed. right. and, um, absolutely. so, yeah , i. absolutely. so, yeah, i. >> so why were you in prison the last time? >> it was fraud and theft. >> it was fraud and theft. >> it was an accumulation of basically everything . over the basically everything. over the years. they tried to give me rehab as, um, uh , uh, a sentence rehab as, um, uh, uh, a sentence , and that hadn't worked. and then probation as a sentence and that hadn't worked . and i kept that hadn't worked. and i kept on reoffending. and then it was eventually this girl's not sorting herself out, so she . sorting herself out, so she. yeah, we're going to give her a sentence. so but it was actually for me , a bit of a blessing. for me, a bit of a blessing. i do think that there needs to be more trauma informed care within the prison system , like it's i the prison system, like it's i know there's a huge debate about, you know, the punishment andifs about, you know, the punishment and it's made too easy. but i think when you're dealing, if you look at the prison system , you look at the prison system, about 95% of people in the prison system have trauma . so prison system have trauma. so but you could say that if you go outside, everyone's i mean, i know no disrespect to your trauma, but literally i could point out there and everyone has

got trauma at some respect. oh, 100. >> but i hear that your trauma was quite severe and that. yeah it's degrees of trauma 100. and how we cope with that trauma. >> yeah. 100. and i think that , >> yeah. 100. and i think that, um, yeah, there's so many contributing factors and it's not justifying. it's a lot. i absolutely don't i take ownership for and i think that i absolutely i deserve the consequences of my actions and choices in some respects. and then i look back as an adult at my younger self. and i think i had i had the support had i had, um, the help that i needed in those earlier years , years when those earlier years, years when those earlier years, years when those events unfolded, not one single person asked the question after that pregnancy, why , why, after that pregnancy, why, why, how? how did this happen? or why ? so i think it's that stuff. if those needs are met, then then my life could have taken a different course. although you could look at it like those things have shaped you and made you have incredible person that

you are. >> now that's what i would see. i do, i definitely do i >> k- k— k regret all of the >> i don't regret all of the things that i've experienced in many ways, because like you said, i do what i do because of those . i want to have a massive those. i want to have a massive impact on the world. i, um , it's impact on the world. i, um, it's what i live for and i'm doing my little bit in my own little corner. >> so your son, he . it's the >> so your son, he. it's the son, isn't it? >> yeah, yeah. how old is he and how old are his sons? >> and they got you into this show. talk to me about the show. yeah. 21 is my. yeah. so 21 is my. >> he turns 21 on the 20th >> well, he turns 21 on the 20th of december, so that's my eldest . and then my youngest will be 16 february . um, so two 16 in february. um, so two different boys from two different boys from two different fathers that are present . yeah. i always say present. yeah. i always say i did my bit for united nations. yeah, exactly. yeah. so there, um , yeah. they're amazing . i um, yeah. they're amazing. i despite me sometimes and because of me in other ways, but, uh, yeah, they have turned out pretty well . um, and they just pretty well. um, and they just both want to see me happy and

experience, uh , secure, healthy. experience, uh, secure, healthy. >> so what was it like , my mum? >> so what was it like, my mum? your dad? yeah. >> i loved the experience. i'm definitely not camera shy at all. um, my boys know this. i think , um, part of the reason we think, um, part of the reason we discussed me going on there, but it was , um. i'm so tired of it was, um. i'm so tired of internet dating. that's all exhausting . i do that, i know , exhausting. i do that, i know, but. so i'd done six years single. um, so i just thought , single. um, so ijust thought, why not? and what happened ? i why not? and what happened? i mean, someone i did meet, someone we were in the. we stayed together for about three and a half months after the show. um, and it was a great experience. yeah, it was. i enjoyed the whole process as well, living in a luxury mansion for two weeks. that's good, isn't it? yeah that that was good. that was good. but yeah, it was a fun experience. i definitely enjoyed the whole process . yeah. process. yeah. >> so that ended. have you got a new man i don't i don't i find yeah the dating scene very hard.

>> well i can't be bothered because i, because i do what i do the job that i do and i've, i've explored and tried to understand how few relationships so that now i'm so aware of so much that now i'm so aware of people and their behaviours and what they do and why they do it. i'm quite deep and i don't blame you. >> you're like, i'm not going to put up with that. you must be joking. >> well, i think you get out of my house. >> so that's that's me. >> so that's that's me. >> i think you hit a certain age i >> -- >> this this m emu m >> this this is it. >> this this is it. >> shut the door on your way out i >> -- >> you do. you sit in a certain age and you're like, i'm not going to tolerate that , or that going to tolerate that, or that isn't going to work with me. and i think i know myself so much now, and i've raised my standards massively as well. yeah, absolutely . i think yeah, absolutely. i think everything that i've experienced and the unhealthy relationships i've experienced and i'm like, well, listen, as you get older, it just gets a whole lot worse. >> over 50, you

>> once you get over 50, you become cantankerous, i'll become so cantankerous, i'll tell now it's my way or tell you that now it's my way or the highway. that's that's why i'm on my own. >> where you're going wrong. i'm on my own. >> no,ere you're going wrong. i'm on my own. >> no, no, you're going wrong. i'm on my own. >> no, no, i'm'e going wrong. i'm on my own. >> no, no, i'm notying wrong. i'm on my own. >> no, no, i'm not going'ong. i'm on my own. >> no, no, i'm not going wrong . >> no, no, i'm not going wrong. i it that way, to be honest. >> yeah, well, this is it. it's. i you have i think, um, when you have learned to love your own company and learn to be really comfortable in that, then you only want someone to come and add to it. if they start taking away. goodbye. do you like five minutes of it? >> about two minutes >> i'll take about two minutes of it and i'm like, i don't think um, so talk to me think so. um, so talk to me briefly about briefly because we've got about a um , what a minute left about, um, what you're now because you're you're doing now because you're you're doing now because you're you're helping others. >> so my business, >> yeah. so i have my business, which is the relationship and recovery relation recovery and self—esteem coaching . and i run self—esteem coaching. and i run retreats as well . that's all retreats as well. that's all focussed around that . um, to one focussed around that. um, to one called insecure. no more on one relationship. ready and hoping. i do love tv, so i do enjoy this whole process. so maybe some other things in there. >> well, yeah, you never know where that could lead. you never know.

>> yeah. got to do a bit of modelling. so maybe, you know, some old delayed modelling at some old delayed modelling at some don't that's some point. i don't know, that's fabulous. so just fabulous. but yeah. so just build continuing to build that. >> well listen it's been such a pleasure talking to you natalie. is there are you doing anything pleasure talking to you natalie. is there amedia doing anything pleasure talking to you natalie. is there amedia oring anything pleasure talking to you natalie. is there amedia or somewhere] pleasure talking to you natalie. is there amedia or somewhere you on social media or somewhere you want you if want people to follow you if you're something? you're doing something? >> my home. >> yeah. instagram is my home. definitely uh, am natalie definitely uh, i am natalie russell. that's my instagram name . and yeah, my 1 to name. and yeah, my 1 to 1 coaching and the retreats . so yeah. >> well natalie well done . you >> well natalie well done. you good for you. that's natalie russell. she's taking part in my mom at your dad and i. she had a fabulous story. very interesting. let's see if you just tuned in. welcome on board at after five. uh, coming up, at 22 after five. uh, coming up, it's for the great british it's time for the great british debate and i'm asking debate this hour. and i'm asking prince harry versus press. prince harry versus the press. who loser? is it who is the biggest loser? is it prince harry, press or prince harry, the press or nobody? get in touch. let me know your thoughts. what do you think? com or think? gb views gb news. com or tweet me at

portillo, gbillionews. britain's news channel . news channel. >> good afternoon . 26 minutes >> good afternoon. 26 minutes after 5:00. this is gb news on tv online and digital radio i'm nana akua. it's now time for the great british debate this hour. and i'm asking prince versus the press who is the biggest loser? because wins in because literally nobody wins in this harry's legal this one. prince harry's legal victory against mirror group newspapers in his phone hacking case is seen as a personal triumph and a blow against sections of the british media. the duke of sussex, expressing

vindication, has been vindication, has long been critical the press's impact critical of the press's impact on his life, emphasising the toll of constant surveillance and media defined narratives. his battles from lawsuits against phone hacking to libel claims indicates a determined effort to challenge the media's influence and protect his family. but is it really possible for him to protect his . possible for him to protect his. family whilst also dragging them down the mud in his books and netflix specials? mean, isn't netflix specials? i mean, isn't he a hypocrite? you're he a bit of a hypocrite? you're going to and blame the press going to go and blame the press for everything, but then you're used a sense, to used to the press in a sense, to promote things that have promote things that could have huge impacts on your huge negative impacts on your family. so for the great british debate i'm asking debate this hour, i'm asking between versus the between the press versus the prince, biggest prince, who is the biggest loser? harry, the press loser? prince harry, the press or nobody ? i'm joined now by or nobody? i'm joined now by ingnd or nobody? i'm joined now by ingrid seward, who is the royal expert and biographer. richard fitzwilliams, royal commentator grant harrold, former royal butler also stephen butler, and also stephen barrett, lawyer stephen important . stephen, can you hear important. stephen, can you hear me? stephen stephen can't hear

me. i'm going to start with ingrid. me. i'm going to start with ingnd.and me. i'm going to start with ingrid. and this is the funny box as well . i like the star box box as well. i like the star box and i'm the biggest face on it. right. who should start with? right. who should i start with? let's ingrid. ingrid let's go with ingrid. ingrid what think? um, what are what do you think? um, what are your this ? your thoughts on this? >> my thoughts are that. that prince harry is the emotional winner on this. he really needed, uh , to win this case needed, uh, to win this case because he's been battling all year. because he's been battling all year . uh, in, because he's been battling all year. uh, in, in and out of various court cases and it's very, very tiring having just one court case going. but he's got at any time he's had at least three and he, he was determined to try and convince this. everybody that that that, you know , all these, uh, stories you know, all these, uh, stories that were in the press were because of phone hacking. well, he got halfway there. i think there were 30 instances or 30, just over 30. and he got 15 of them. and the judge said that he

he he judged, if you like , that, he he judged, if you like, that, that, that, that half were because of phone hacking. so it's a huge emotional victory to harry, which he needed, because if you look at the rest of his yeani if you look at the rest of his year, i mean, i know he made a huge amount of money with his book, but it's really been, uh, a negative for him and a very negative for him and meghan. and, you know , then meghan. and, you know, then yesterday, i think the hollywood reporter and said, what reporter came out and said, what losers they to us, what losers they were now to us, what the hollywood reporter says is not in you know, it's not important. but if you live there, it's very important. so i think he is the winner today. but whether he'll be the winner in the coming weeks, i don't know. >> richard, richard, what do you think i agree i think that very clearly harry's had a big victory and calling for police inquiries to follow the fact that, uh, mrjustice fancourt, a civil case. >> so it was a matter of the balance of probabilities . and in

balance of probabilities. and in that balance, 15 out of 33 articles that were being examined, uh, he were unlawfully obtained and therefore it started a huge debate . there are started a huge debate. there are those, for example, hacked off, uh, and also those who would like to see a second leveson inquiry, but what essentially, this is , is harry clearly this is, is harry clearly winning the first round, £140,000. he's been awarded in damages . and also that might be damages. and also that might be increased depending on what is arranged with mirror group. but essentially with a case against the sun and a case against the mail, not to mention other cases pending. ingrid's right. i mean, the almost endless, uh, i think that he very clearly needed this . i also agree that they've had a difficult year, but he began it with spare that was trashing his family and that i thought was absolutely shocking. we've also got the harry versus piers morgan saga . now that is going morgan saga. now that is going to be fascinating develops.

>> i'm going to have to get grant your thoughts . grant your thoughts. >> no, no. hello. thank you for having me on. um, the whole thing is really sad. i mean, i was i was remembering earlier on, think the queen famously on, i think the queen famously had legal cases and had two legal cases and i've lost track of all these legal cases that go on these days with obviously prince harry and members and members of the royal family. and the the reality is i the sad bit is the reality is i don't think yes, he's won at the moment, at moment, but who actually wins at the end of the day? because as you nana i'm the you know, nana and i'm sure the other agree, they're other panel will agree, they're all need the media as all family. need the media as much media need the royal much as the media need the royal family. these things much as the media need the royal family. when these things much as the media need the royal family. when breakshings much as the media need the royal family. when breaks down happen, when it breaks down like this, is the winner? you this, who is the winner? you know, end of the day. know, at the end of the day. >> hmm. all right. and, uh, stephen. >> emu em- em" >> yes. well i just to go first. there complaints. there are 33 complaints. >> originally 148, >> harry. originally made 148, and to reduce those so and he had to reduce those so that that's quite a big drop down. he wanted to establish that there was a big dynamic of press hacking. >> since . 1991. and that >> since. 1991. and that completely failed of the 33, i actually only counted 12 that i would count as as a win. so i don't know why i'm out of sync

with everybody else, but it's perfectly possible. i've counted, um, incorrectly . i want counted, um, incorrectly. i want your to know that your your panel to know that your viewers that this this your panel to know that your vieweof that this this your panel to know that your vieweof damages 1at this this your panel to know that your vieweof damages is: this this your panel to know that your vieweof damages is really,1is level of damages is really, really small. okay, so harry was in my court , he was in the rolls in my court, he was in the rolls building, and i have been i have had a case for £15 million thrown out of the rolls building and sent to a lower court to deal with, on the basis that it wasn't important enough for the rolls building. has rolls building. what harry has established that established really, is that chelsea phone was was chelsea davies phone was was hacked because the majority of the 12 relate to chelsea, and it's quite clearly that they were targeting his girlfriend's from about 2003. that's taken a huge amount of judicial resource of national spent . one of our of national spent. one of our best judges that we have has sat there week after week . they there week after week. they produced a 386 page judgement. so he's written a book based on this case. is that the best use of judicial time is this the best the court in order best use of the court in order to these all these to get these all these established phones hacked to get these all these es'inylished phones hacked to get these all these es'in the ed phones hacked to get these all these es'in the noughties. hacked to get these all these es'in the noughties. my hacked in in the noughties. my goodness, terrible

goodness, what a terrible surprise that must having surprise that must be having having that. we've the having that. we've had the entire scandal, so it does just look like vindictiveness by harry. is criticised by the harry. he is criticised by the judge and his claim i mean the judge and his claim i mean the judge is very diplomatic. so he the judge takes the view that his to have his solicitors ought to have controlled him and stopped him in he was behaving. in the way that he was behaving. but ignoring court but harry was ignoring court orders he his witness orders and he his witness statement specifically statement is specifically criticise a polemic. criticise as being a polemic. it's a witness statement, it's not a witness statement, it's of political it's like a sort of political tirade . he wanted tirade. what he wanted to achieve , he's not achieved. so achieve, he's not achieved. so on that, i don't think he's the winner. i'd be hard for him to see himself as the winner. technically in law, yes, he's the winner. i think you know, and there'll be costs, issues and there'll be costs, issues and there'll be costs, issues and the rest of it. and he and all the rest of it. and he and all the rest of it. and he and he'll get a small amount of damages, having wasted awful damages, having wasted an awful lot most valuable lot of, of our most valuable court's lot of, of our most valuable cou um, lot of, of our most valuable couum, interesting. you >> um, interesting. thank you for ingrid, for your thoughts. so, ingrid, uh, back you very briefly. uh, back to you very briefly. then would is the then who would you say is the biggest loser in this? the press prince harry or no one. they're all losers. >> i think . uh, basically, >> i think. uh, basically, they're all losers. and what

stephen said is, i mean, us laymen wouldn't know all that, but it's fascinating because, of course, it is wasting a huge amount of time. so i guess everyone's loser this. amount of time. so i guess eveeveryone's)ser this. amount of time. so i guess eveeveryone's aar this. amount of time. so i guess eveeveryone's a loser.�*|is. amount of time. so i guess eveeveryone's a loser. richard, >> everyone's a loser. richard, what briefly who what do you think? briefly who do you think the biggest loser. >> it >> i'll have to see how it develops to for develops to see how, for example, against the mail next yean example, against the mail next year, just one. >> one. who do you think the press, uh, harry or nobody press at the moment. >> the losers. but how will grant? >> grant ? who do you grant? >> grant? who do you think overall ? overall? >> nobody. that's my kind of feel in the long run. nobody wins. it's really sad that this this has taken place. >> to you, stephen, >> and finally, to you, stephen, who do you think is the biggest loser? >> the biggest losers are the people because, you know, none of us are. ordinary people would get claim for £100,000 heard get a claim for £100,000 heard by judge length by this judge over that length of just wouldn't. of time. we just wouldn't. >> thank so >> brilliant. thank you so much for your thoughts. very interesting. so much interesting. thank you so much to ingrid seward, royal expert and richard and biographer richard fitzwilliams, royal commentator grant harrold, former royal butler stephen barrett, his butler sir stephen barrett, his lawyer. thank you so much for your thoughts. interesting. well, think? who's well, what do you think? who's the loser at

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through until 7:00 this evening. gb news the people's . channel. gb news the people's. channel. >> good afternoon . it's fast >> good afternoon. it's fast approaching 41 minutes after 5:00. i'm nana akua this is gbillionews. we are the people's channel. it's time now for the . channel. it's time now for the. great british debate. this hour. i'm asking prince versus the press. who is the biggest loser? prince harry's legal victory against mirror group in the phone is seen as a phone hacking case is seen as a personal but it personal triumph. but is it really? it really? he's really? is it really? he's thinking that he's expressing a vindication. but what do you think? so join me, joining me think? so to join me, joining me to is , of course, the to discuss is, of course, the fabulous lizzie and also fabulous lizzie cundy. and also matthew start matthew laza. i'm going to start with you, straight in there. >> yeah. well they are the duke and duchess of the old bailey, aren't they? prince of litigation. it doesn't seem to be ever out of court. litigation. it doesn't seem to be ever out of court . um, look, be ever out of court. um, look, i don't think there are any winners here, but definitely, you know, apart from the lawyers

and david sherborne , who i know and david sherborne, who i know very well, is one of the best harry could have got. he is simply he looked after coleen rooney in her case. um, but the fact is with this, i don't think people realise the mirror group tried to settle with with harry before this for 250,000. so he's got 140,000, but let me remind you, didn't he . yeah. he wanted you, didn't he. yeah. he wanted it because he's. look he wanted his day in court because he blames the press for his mother's death. sadly, sadly , mother's death. sadly, sadly, um, it was a drunken driver and she wasn't wearing her seatbelt. there. the facts now, not many people know this, but actually, prince william , a very bold 23 prince william, a very bold 23 year old, took the press to court himself, um, over hacking claims . and he actually had 39 claims. and he actually had 39 cases. catherine had 155 hacking. um, so situations which were awful at and they actually won 1 million. they did it very

quietly. he, they and they gave the money to charity, um, which i think was the right way to do it. i think these two are going to do that. totally changed the way journalists then worked after the milly dowler situation , which was terrible. the hacking on there and hacking that went on there and leveson happened, and journalists had to, know, journalists had to, you know, they had much stricter, you know, ways they could work. um, which they have now. and it brought down the news of the world. so for, for harry to kind of come out as if he's slayed some dragon and given the truth from a man , has done nothing but from a man, has done nothing but tell about his own family. tell lies about his own family. um, had the witness of um, they had the witness of scooby—doo , of omid scobie scooby—doo, of omid scobie there. that was anything he says, you know, and i have to feel a bit for piers morgan , who feel a bit for piers morgan, who actually said he was never asked to be a witness from either side . and, um, he was editor at the mirror, but he didn't know any of the cases, apart from one which he didn't know about. and you have into this and you have to look into this and think, harry, don't think, actually, harry, don't come some hero here come out as some big hero here because you're not. and it

didn't have to be done like this at all. matthew. >> yeah, i think i mean, the truth of the matter is i think nobody's in this nobody's a winner in this really, clearly really, because clearly it's exposed unacceptable exposed completely unacceptable practices exposed, again, the practices or exposed, again, the very tail end , i think of the very tail end, i think of the practices because i think that, you know, not least because there's no voicemails, nobody leaves voicemails left hat . leaves voicemails left a hat. but, mean, would have but, i mean, they would have stopped doing anyway. but, i mean, they would have st0|it's! doing anyway. but, i mean, they would have st0| it's whatsapp inyway. but, i mean, they would have st0| it's wh whatsapp vay. but, i mean, they would have st0| it's wh whatsapp now. but, i mean, they would have st0|it's wh whatsapp now. that >> it's all whatsapp now. that will the next, issue. but will be the next, uh, issue. but i think that, you know, as you say, harry doesn't win because it he's petty and it it looks like he's petty and it looks like he's a vendetta looks like he's got a vendetta against i think looks like he's got a vendetta ag'needs i think looks like he's got a vendetta ag'needs be i think looks like he's got a vendetta ag'needs be very i think looks like he's got a vendetta ag'needs be very careful1k he needs to be very careful because this isn't the or because this isn't the 1980s or the 1990s tabloids ran the 1990s when the tabloids ran at, you know, ran away at, you know, you know, ran away with anything, they away at, you know, you know, ran away with anything they away at, you know, you know, ran away with anything theywanted ay with anything they wanted to really our really ran amok through our pubuc really ran amok through our public they're really on really ran amok through our pubthey're they're really on really ran amok through our pubthey're oney're really on really ran amok through our pubthey're on they really on really ran amok through our pubthey're on the backy on really ran amok through our pubthey're on the back foot. the they're on the back foot. and, you know, need to be and, you know, you need to be careful. he doesn't careful. you know, he doesn't end the mirror end up bankrupting the mirror group, to rid of group, who had to get rid of several different journalism. >> wants, though. >> he wants, though. >> he wants, though. >> this is what >> i mean, this is what he wants, needs be careful. wants, needs to be careful. >> the problem he's doing >> the problem is he's doing that. this is he's sounding that. but this is he's sounding very bitter why that? you very bitter and why do that? you know, to sort out know, we've got to sort out the

british press. listen, it british press. uh, listen, it was french photographers, was it was french photographers, photographers who chased his mother through tunnel. it mother through that tunnel. it wasn't and the wasn't british press and the people with people who went away with this story was oprah were story when it was on oprah were american press and the global story when it was on oprah were ameri

things. all right, well, let's, uh, let's go to brian, doug and bnanin uh, let's go to brian, doug and brian in solihull. nana >> how are you? >> how are you? >> i'm good. >> i'm good. >> yeah, i, i agree there are no winners . winners. >> uh, harry's not a winner out of this , but, uh, but neither of this, but, uh, but neither are the press. >> i mean, obviously, these were practices which have been exposed in the past . exposed in the past. >> um, they are unacceptable. >> um, they are unacceptable. >> they are criminal. >> they are criminal. >> um, and really , the press >> um, and really, the press doesn't come out of this , um, doesn't come out of this, um, looking great either. >> uh, harry, harry, by his own doing what he has said about his own family as well . own family as well. >> uh, that doesn't help him in all of this, but, um , i think all of this, but, um, i think that, uh, the mirror group are facing, you know , great facing, you know, great potential consequences and ramifications . ramifications. >> and, of course, associated newspapers and indeed, news uk are also facing, uh, cases next year where phone hacking is also on the agenda. so there are no winners. >> nana. it's not even something

new, though. i mean, we knew about at that point there was that sort of thing going on, but that sort of thing going on, but that was years and years ago. hopefully. i don't think that's going leaves going on anymore. nobody leaves voicemails. jones voicemails. uh, jonathan jones in hey. voicemails. uh, jonathan jones in hey, hey. voicemails. uh, jonathan jones in hey, nana.ey. voicemails. uh, jonathan jones in hey, nana. hey >> hey, nana. hey >> hey, nana. hey >> in the tea garden >> i'm out in the tea garden tonight. nana. so it's a bit dark got my dark here. i haven't got my normal of tea. i've got normal cup of tea. i've got an iced for ah. iced tea for you. ah. >> that's nice. was gonna say >> that's nice. i was gonna say switch the lights for prince switch the lights on for prince harry america. switch the lights on for prince haryeahamerica. switch the lights on for prince haryeah. soarica. switch the lights on for prince haryeah. so iica. switch the lights on for prince haryeah. so i go on because >> yeah. so i go on because i think he's had a sense of humour failure. >> and i think when i saw his father, his majesty the king, the day before i saw you at chelsea and we just chelsea flower show, and we just made tea called his majesty. made a tea called his majesty. >> and i thought this could go very badly. and his his majesty . very badly. and his his majesty. had a good old chuckle. and that's what prince harry needs to do, is take a leaf out of his father's book, i think. yeah take a tea leaf out of his father's book. >> well, listen, thank you so much to you, cook. brian much to you, alan cook. brian doogan and jonathan jones. always right. always a pleasure. hey. right. well, how about well, listen, how about this, though? big though? we've got our big giveaway chance to win giveaway for your chance to win money. you could money. yes, you could win £10,000 a new tech

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friday the 5th of january. full terms and privacy notice at gbnews.com. forward slash win. good luck . good luck. >> yes sir. that's our first ever great british quiz . but now ever great british quiz. but now it's ever great british quiz. but now wsfime ever great british quiz. but now it's time for our quick fire quiz . this is the part of the quiz. this is the part of the show where i test my panel on some of the big stories sitting in the headlines right now. joining from joining me broadcast from columnist cundy. your columnist lizzie cundy. your buzzer former buzzer please. and also former labour laza . labour adviser matthew laza. right. and please play along at home. are you ready. question one. now you both have 30s to answer this. who are the five families of the conservative party in westminster? hadn't finished ? well, i'll let you go. finished? well, i'll let you go. okay. time starts now . okay. time starts now. >> new >> they are the new conservatives. uh, the european research group . uh, the, um , uh, research group. uh, the, um, uh, the common sense group. um, and i've forgotten the other two. come on, keep your thinking busy , lizzie . , lizzie. >> they're the five flies. >> they're the five flies. >> uh , uh, the new. >> uh, uh, the new. >> uh, uh, the new. >> if you said the erg. >> if you said the erg. >> yes , i said the erg. the new

>> yes, i said the erg. the new conservatives and the common sense group. >> i'm afraid i can't give you the point. time is up. the the point. time is up. it's the european of course. new european erg. of course. new conservative european erg. of course. new conservynorthern research >> the northern research research and the research group, and the conservative , the northern. >> yes, i forget the northern. >> yes, i forget the northern. >> that was quite ambiguous. and it's like, uh, mark francois, tony, do get half point? it's like, uh, mark francois, tonnothing.et half point? >> nothing. >> nothing. >> nothing, true or >> nothing, nothing. true or false? mohammed is false? question to mohammed is the most popular boys name of 2023? cundy ? it's 2023? uh, lizzie cundy? it's true, true. what do you true, it's true. what do you think? it's you think? yeah. it's true. you should false in case it should say false just in case it is true . mohammed is the most is true. mohammed is the most popular boys name 2023. popular baby boys name in 2023. wow right. question three cop 28. just wrapped up in the uae. but what country is hosting the next cop summit in 2024? is it a australia b, azerbaijan or c brazil? uh matthew laza b azerbaijan c brazil ? uh, the azerbaijan c brazil? uh, the answer is azerbaijan. well done . answer is azerbaijan. well done. >> we're level. we're level one one. >> all right . question for >> all right. question for a british boy. that went missing since 2017 on a spanish holiday was found. in which country was the a france b, denmark or c

ireland? uh you press one. i'm going to go to lizzie. >> it's france, it's france. thatis >> it's france, it's france. that is a mad story though. >> yes, boys . yeah. >> yes, boys. yeah. >> yes, boys. yeah. >> and poor grandma as well. yes >> and poor grandma as well. yes >> and poor grandma as well. yes >> and your final question. the decider. 100 year old christmas tree bought from woolworths for £0.06, recently sold at £0.06, was recently sold at auction. but for how much? close this answer wins matthew laza £7,000 lizzie cundy, 2000. >> the winner . >> the winner. >> the winner. >> the winner. >> the answer is and i know this because it's my story. is it £3,400? lizzie cundy you are the closest. yes, it's about a tree in a little tree in woolworths. and it was sold £0.06. and then a little while later i found a vase that i bought in woolworths about 25 years ago. >> and it's worth 6000. i found it the other day. >> doubt it. >> doubt it. >> you know what son was >> do you know what my son was the model to do the the last model to do the woollies . did know woollies advert. did you know that do yes you but that we do now? yes you do, but you win quiz. you've you never win the quiz. you've got the last one. one. >> one. >> so the scores on the doors to the quiz was at you, lizzie. cundy. lizzie. um.

>> so, um, i'm sorry that, >> so, um, i'm sorry about that, but win but you unfortunately didn't win matthew story of my life. matthew laza story of my life. >> well, that's the way st >> yeah, well, that's the way st bart's love you name it. yes, yes. well, listen, it's very exciting. i've had so much fun in show. it's the gb in today's show. it's got the gb news christmas later . in today's show. it's got the gb news christmas later. i'm news christmas party later. i'm looking that. but looking forward to that. but on today's asking today's show, i've been asking you what have we been asking you? does the question. oh, you? what does the question. oh, i thought it um, you? what does the question. oh, i th question it um, you? what does the question. oh, i th question was it um, you? what does the question. oh, i th question was the um, you? what does the question. oh, i th question was the firstm, you? what does the question. oh, i th question was the first one the question was the first one about, uh, about, um, migration . about, uh, about, um, migration. well, we won't have the answer anyway. >> we're so excited about the christmas party. we've forgotten the question. >> excited? >> excited? >> okay , so is mass migration >> okay, so is mass migration a real risk to national security? and according to our twitter poll, what's the percentage? >> it's going to be big. wow. >> it's going to be big. wow. >> 96, 96, 96. say yes . 96 and >> 96, 96, 96. say yes. 96 and a bit 96 and a bit say yes. the remainder say no. well, i think that was quite smooth, wasn't it? thank you. so much. broadcaster and columnist lizzie cundy. thank you so much to you. and also former labour adviser

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