the murdered the mother of the murdered teenager, brianna dye, says her daughter's two killers haven't shown an ounce of remorse after being found guilty of her daughter's murder in february, brianna was found with fatal stab wounds in a park in cheshire. the pair, identified only as girl x and boy y, both now aged 16 but 15 at the time, had denied the murder and blamed each other for the killing . each other for the killing. baroness michelle mone says she has an audio recording of a senior civil servant offering to make a national crime agency investigation go away if she paid money to the government . it paid money to the government. it comes after she admitted she set to benefit from a contract with pr firm medpro , which earned pr firm medpro, which earned a £60 million profit supplying protective equipment to the nhs dunng protective equipment to the nhs during the coronavirus pandemic. earlier, the levelling up secretary, michael gove, said he hoped a criminal case would be brought against her. the chancellor is set to strike a

deal with switzerland aimed at easing uk firms access to the swiss market, and vice versa . swiss market, and vice versa. jeremy hunt is going to be travelling to bern tomorrow to sign the agreement, which will mutually recognise one another's market laws and regulations. it's going to create a framework to facilitate cross—border trade in wholesale financial services with the treasury hoping this will boost markets in the city of london. patients have been warned there'll be significant disruption to nhs services as junior doctors begin their three day walkout less than a week before christmas. this strike will last until december the 23rd, as part of a major escalation in their dispute over pay- escalation in their dispute over pay. hospital leaders have described the walkouts as there worst fears realised as the number of people needing help with winter viruses rises. the action will be followed by a six day strike at the start of january as well. that will be the longest in nhs history.

meanwhile, labour has pledged to cut cancer waiting times and get cancer patient diagnoses earlier , the party's promise to deliver an extra 2 million appointments dunng an extra 2 million appointments during evenings and at the weekend to tackle the nhs backlog. labour says it's going to be funded by abolishing the non—dom tax status . the catch up non—dom tax status. the catch up on cancer plan, announced by laboun on cancer plan, announced by labour, will also double the number of mri and ct scans in operation . now experts are operation. now experts are warning of potential eye injuries when it comes to opening bottles of fizz prosecco , champagne and the like this christmas , the university of christmas, the university of cambridge says corks can launch themselves across the room 13m and at speeds of up to 50 miles and at speeds of up to 50 miles an hour, potentially causing permanent eye damage . they say permanent eye damage. they say the pressure in a 750ml bottle of champagne or sparkling wine is about three times that of a standard car. tyre experts are

suggesting chilling the bottle before opening it to reduce the pressure and of course, pointing it at a 45 degree angle away from yourself and others . you from yourself and others. you have been told this is gb news across the uk on tv, in your car, on digital radio and on your smart speaker by saying play your smart speaker by saying play gb news this is britain's news channel . news channel. >> hello and welcome to headliners. i'm simon evans tonight i'm joined by josh howie and paul cox, looking very much like the firm of cox and howell. >> yes we are. >> aren't we hiring at the moment? >> we haven't got any work so we can't hire anybody. >> you also look as if you might have just invented an early form of flying machine as well.

>> i don't know, is it the glasses? >> no. we're looking pretty clever. you are. we open our mouths. anything too much pushed you anyway, let's have look you anyway, let's have a look at the daily mail, the front pages. daily mail, kick us off. what they did to our brianna haunt our beautiful brianna will haunt us taking a us forever. we'll be taking a look that. the guardian look at that. the guardian outrage over police access to 50 million driving licences , or million driving licences, or possibly 50 metre driving licences to run face checks. the eye tax cuts in 2024 after surprise fall in inflation. i'm not surprised . times cheaper not surprised. times cheaper mortgages set to ease living costs. told you so . financial costs. told you so. financial times modi ready to look into any evidence of assassination plot on american soil. that story still underestimated and the daily star throwing us their usual curveball apocalypse soon hmm'hmm those were your front pages. hmm'hmm those were your front pages . so the first of those

pages. so the first of those stories, the daily mail. josh very sad business. >> yes. >> yes. >> what they did to our beautiful brianna will haunt us forever. >> this is of course, the terrible murder of, uh, of, uh, brianna grey gay and, uh , she brianna grey gay and, uh, she was 16. >> uh , 215 year olds. uh, boy >> uh, 215 year olds. uh, boy and a girl. seems like they were obsessed with serial killers and torture and so on. yeah, torture and all this . and they blamed and all this. and they blamed each other, but they both been found guilty, and they're in a tncky found guilty, and they're in a tricky age, i would say. >> aren't they? legally speaking? i mean, i remember, for instance, the bulger killings, everyone understood that were that although they were absolutely horrific killings, there was a limit to how much you could . you could. >> but year olds. yeah, >> but 15 year olds. yeah, absolutely . very the absolutely. very much on the what level accountability or what level of accountability or whatever, know. yeah uh, so, whatever, you know. yeah uh, so, uh , it's terrible . uh, i'm going uh, it's terrible. uh, i'm going to say something that might not be, but what is not mentioned here on the front page, what's not mentioned in the guardian we can look at in a second is not

mentioned that she was trans. yeah, certainly did mention yeah, they certainly did mention that a lot on the initial reporting of this case. uh, it was during case was found out during the case that actually her being trans had do yeah, had nothing to do with. yeah, murder , if anything. well, it murder, if anything. well, it was secondary whatever . they was secondary or whatever. they would, would fall. three would, they would fall. three other were looking to other guys they were looking to murder. of whom were murder. um, none of whom were trans, none of whom were trans. uh, and, uh, but the point is that there was a lot of speculation at, you know, when this all happened and, uh, and, and there were two other teenage murders that week as well. yeah. >> uh, so what the speculation was that that she was this was transphobia. >> yes, exactly. >> yes, exactly. >> uh, played a part discourse etc. >> yeah. or was the reason for it. yeah. where it turns out it's two, uh, messed up kids, you know, and that does that not often seem to be the way there's so much of as we saw recently with the suicide on the on the barge, you know, it's always immediately people know exactly what has caused this and what has led to it. >> and it is the thing that

they've been campaigning and complaining about. >> well, happily, many >> well, quite happily, many people and use people will take it and use it for their narrative. >> but it's convenience >> yeah, but it's convenience and josh was and that's exactly what josh was pointing out. >> you know, it's not it's now not of this, and neither not part of this, and neither should it because at the end should it be, because at the end of an innocent lives of the day, an innocent lives have been taken. yeah. a young girl, 15 year old. i mean, i do worry about people that worry about the people that killed her because much like the bulger at bulger killers, if you look at john venables now, whilst he was a when killed, he was a child, when he killed, he was he's clearly a disturbed he's quite clearly a disturbed human to be. human being and continues to be. >> um, so i don't know, quite happens to them. they talked >> um, so i don't know, quite happe it to them. they talked >> um, so i don't know, quite happe it was hem. they talked >> um, so i don't know, quite happe it was just. they talked >> um, so i don't know, quite happe it was just a'hey talked >> um, so i don't know, quite happe it was just a fantasy. ed >> um, so i don't know, quite happe it was just a fantasy. but about it was just a fantasy. but the they talked about it was the way they talked about it was the way they talked about it was the they carried it out. the way they carried it out. that's slightly more than a fantasy. yeah. um, particularly when killing another human when it's killing another human being. to what being. but going back to what you saying, think you were saying, i think it's. i think right. think think you're right. i think people we've it people will. we've seen it across all the spectrum, even even our side of even maybe on our side of the argument we've taken argument sometimes we've taken situations is situations and thought, this is very let's say it's very convenient. let's say it's a guy that's committed a a muslim guy that's committed a terrible atrocity. >> we there are definitely >> yeah, we there are definitely people our of the people on our side of the argument that will be happy to

see that, because they can use that their narrative. that for their narrative. >> where it >> and that's where it gets a little bit sticky. >> remember when it was a muslim guy who david amess and guy who killed david amess and of parliament then of course the parliament then saw a reason push saw that as a reason to push through um, their bill through their, um, their bill against online radicalisation on social hate speech and so social media hate speech and so on, which had had nothing to do with whatsoever. know, with it whatsoever. you know, sometimes convenient. >> it's very sad. >> it's very sad. >> guardian now, paul . >> guardian now, paul. >> guardian now, paul. >> yeah. outrage over police access to 50 million driving licence to run face checks. >> so of course we've all been arguing over the last few years about whether we should have sort of this face recognition technology to catch shoplifters or whatever. there always or whatever. there was always going back door and going to be a back door and driving licence, which i've just renewed mine in the last couple of actually, that of months, actually, is now that back and the whilst whilst back door and the whilst whilst i believe this is very likely to help the police s um, it's still going to be a huge infringement on personal liberty. um, liberty which which for me is a big deal . yeah, um, i struggle with that . i'm very uncomfortable with

it. however i think we're on a path now, which is irreversible , path now, which is irreversible, and that's the way we're going to go. and we're going to go that way until we realise quite how dangerous that is. >> even we have >> and even once we have realised that that it will turn back.i realised that that it will turn back. i mean, i've always thought was interesting thought it was quite interesting that civilisation that we lived as a civilisation for hundreds, arguably thousands of impression of years under the impression that we being watched a that we were being watched in a supernatural that people supernatural sense that people had religious had a sort of religious conscious sense, which would, uh, on their uh, have some effect on their behaviour. and remember even behaviour. and i remember even being know this being quite young. i know this sounds crazy, but sounds kind of crazy, but thinking that ancestors, my thinking that my ancestors, my grandfather, when he died, would be i'd have a sort be watching me, i'd have a sort of even now, they of sense of that even now, they say you put up these large say if you put up these large scale sort of cardboard cut—outs of police officers in windows. yeah, has effect yeah, it actually has an effect on people's behaviour, even though can see that it is though they can see that it is obviously cardboard cover. obviously a cardboard cover. >> actually a pair of eyes >> even actually a pair of eyes is enough to have that impact. yeah it stops crimes being committed. and committed. stop shoplifting and so all the degree of so all this the degree of surveillance we're coming under how. now. and mean, % mean, you ever % mean, you ever drive >> and i mean, if you ever drive through now, you sense through london now, you sense that your car being watched

that your car is being watched at all times. there is never a moment hardly urinating at moment i am hardly urinating at all, . all, anywhere. >> i'm. i used just >> i'm now i'm. i used to just go wherever wanted. you're in >> i'm now i'm. i used to just go vistageer wanted. you're in >> i'm now i'm. i used to just go vistage of wanted. you're in >> i'm now i'm. i used to just go vistage of a/anted. you're in >> i'm now i'm. i used to just go vistage of a relationshipe in that stage of a relationship when you can't yeah, yeah. it's like, that's what i'm like now in central london. uh, so yeah, there's this. but what's crazy is how it's actually already law. it got put through. it was like a little line part of like a little line as part of legislation that's already gone through. they're already through. so they're already have that do they can that right to do it. they can just of press button. they just sort of press button. they can go to uh, if you want to be at a protest, you want to protest against, uh, vaccine or whatever it that our whatever it is that our wonderful viewers are not judging, but but judging, uh, wanted, but but just no just slightly, uh, no, no, no judge thing. >> course. i mean, that is >> of course. i mean, that is very because a lot of very relevant because a lot of people that moving people felt that was moving towards a sort of bio identity markers and so on. >> well it. well, if you >> well that's it. well, if you had could have had protested, they could have gone there. you wouldn't have worn assume if you worn a mask. i assume if you were protesting against the vaccine, of vaccine, that would be sort of somewhat yeah, somewhat hypocritical. yeah, that weird. and then that would be weird. and then they got your face they would have got your face with would have seen who they would have got your face withinterested, d have seen who they would have got your face withinterested, and ve seen who they would have got your face withinterested, and then en who they would have got your face withinterested, and then they 10 was interested, and then they could have checked up and

could have checked you up and see you've had it or see whether you've had it or whatever don't know. whatever it is. i don't know. the point is this this extra level is not good and it's become automatic. >> it's coming let's nip >> it's coming up. let's nip through these last two quickly. the in i josh. the tax cuts in the i josh. >> yes. uh, so tax cuts in 2024 after fall in after surprise fall in inflation. the reality is of course were going be course there were going to be tax cuts in 2024 because there's an yeah. the an election. yeah. but the big news the inflation news is that yes, the inflation has uh, greater or lower has fooled, uh, greater or lower i know. whichever you want i don't know. whichever you want to at it. it's 3.9. 4, to look at it. it's 3.9. 4, which is considerably better than it was going than they thought it was going to be. mm. uh, that of course, beats uh, sunaks. one his beats uh, sunaks. one of his targets 5. targets was to get it below 5. yeah. uh, so is good news. yeah. uh, so this is good news. it's good news for people who are going be renewing their are going to be renewing their mortgage the next year. mortgage in the next year. >> for people who use money to buy objects. yes. >> news. yeah good news for >> good news. yeah good news for pretty much everywhere. look it's from the 2. it's still far away from the 2. yeah. uh, economists kind of yeah. uh, economists are kind of saying, is good, but saying, well, this is good, but we've stuff. now we've done the easy stuff. now it's to be much harder for it's going to be much harder for the rest of the decline to happen. >> uh, but the, the low hanging fruit. yes. >> is what they've exactly

generally , genuinely or generally, genuinely or generally, genuinely or generally sorry. i'd be inclined to agree with that. however, this is the biggest downside in the economy in interest rates. sorry. since early since sorry. since early 2021, since just pandemic , and just after the pandemic, and just after the pandemic, and just as economists underestimated the inflation on the way up , they appear to have the way up, they appear to have underestimated the way underestimated it. on the way down again, which for me adds an element doubt whetherthey element of doubt of whether they know exactly what's going on. >> that don't. >> and has caught them by surprise. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> and i think this is one way of hiding that surprise by talking about taxes. >> and also to understand why they in this of they do it. but in this kind of inflation, the inflation that we've the last 2 or we've had over the last 2 or 3 years has by no means just been caused by people having too much ready in their pockets, you ready cash in their pockets, you know? using rates to know? so using interest rates to try limit people, you know, try and limit people, you know, maybe credit card maybe buying a tv on credit card or , that isn't the or something, that isn't the problem at all. a multivac course. >> f- f.- >> absolutely. and look, prices are staying still. they're 20% higher than were in 2020. higher than they were in 2020. >> they're going come >> and they're not going to come down again. some are down again. no, some of them are 30% higher. so not not everything some food prices are. >> they never come down. food

bills absolutely still bills are absolutely still insane. that's still very bills are absolutely still insar at that's still very bills are absolutely still insar at 9. that's still very high at 9. >> switching to zero for >> i'm switching to zero for food anyway, we'll finish with the star very quickly. the daily star very quickly. what this apocalypse of which what is this apocalypse of which they apocalypse soon. they speak? apocalypse soon. >> just 200 years before the world destroyed by global warming and old people farting and burping are partly to blame. >> simon. marvellous. >> simon. marvellous. >> i listen to simon allison radio for, uh , bbc burping like radio for, uh, bbc burping like a traitor that i am. >> jg ballard , the science >> jg ballard, the science fiction writer, and he wrote a book, i can't remember what it was called about london being under water due to flooding caused by, uh, reversal of the solar flares or something in the 1960s, which is quite interesting hearing, you know, 1960s, which is quite intevarious hearing, you know, 1960s, which is quite intevarious scenarios ou know, 1960s, which is quite intevarious scenarios that now, 1960s, which is quite intevarious scenarios that are. the various scenarios that are just always being cooked up. >> not saying that there's >> i'm not saying that there's no i mean, they they talk about boffins and they're being boffins and they're only being 73,000 left live. but, 73,000 days left to live. but, you so what i think 200 you know, so what i think 200 years gives us enough time to create sort of thermostat. years gives us enough time to cre'that's sort of thermostat. years gives us enough time to cre'that's s

heating . throw another heating systems. throw another log the we'll see

radio. >> welcome back to headline . i'm >> welcome back to headline. i'm simon evans, still here with josh howie and paul cox. so let's continue with the stories we have the telegraph now paul. we of all the things i ever expected to feel sentimentally protective towards gas boilers were not top of the list, but no i >> -- >> and the same with tory backbenchers as well. i feel some sympathy with them in this story as well. rishi sunak faces some sympathy with them in this s uh, as well. rishi sunak faces some sympathy with them in this suh, boilerll. rishi sunak faces some sympathy with them in this s uh, boiler tax1ishi sunak faces some sympathy with them in this s uh, boiler tax rebellionk faces some sympathy with them in this suh, boiler tax rebellion soaces , uh, boiler tax rebellion so tory backbenchers mobilise against plans to penalise boilermakers that do not meet heat pump installation targets. manufacturers have responded to the proposals by increasing their prices . and raising them their prices. and raising them by £120 to offset the cost of the heat pump rollout, which is really which is an important side message to this because of course, every action has a every

reaction as an action, action as a reaction. all that good stuff. so i'm quite sympathetic here with backbenchers actually. >> how heat pumps work. yeah >> how heat pumps work. yeah >> well think the argument >> well i think the argument is they work particularly they don't work particularly well. what does well. i'll tell you what does work gas boilers . work really well. gas boilers. yeah. so for about 100 years now we've used gas boilers in our, in homes. we've, they've in our homes. we've, they've become efficient . and um, become quite efficient. and um, they and what also works is insulation. >> i do think that that although i know insulation was one of the things that the just stop oil people protest about and so on. but are still well short of, but we are still well short of, of maximising that extent. certainly in our home. yeah, i come in quite often and literally find a window open over a radiator that's on and so on. it goes absolutely spare. but but think we could that but but i do think we could that that's a fairly sort of straightforward thing isn't straightforward thing that isn't quite so invasive. >> heat palms >> yeah. and but heat palms aren't for flats aren't appropriate for flats which i live in a flat. yeah um, and the fact is that, of course the, the gas boiler people, they've already they pump their money up, you know, it's crazy. they've already yeah. they've already gone. yeah. we're add £120 whether we're going to add £120 whether

or they've already any or not they've already got any of these additional fines which they government of these additional fines which they that government of these additional fines which they that they're government says that they're basically going to hit these targets anyway. course is anyway. so of course this is just an excuse for price for price gauging, gouging and but then the energy secretary says, oh , i'm to talk to anyone oh, i'm going to talk to anyone who think is passing an unfair who i think is passing an unfair cost. you're going talk cost. what you're going to talk to it, get what? that's not going anything. so just going to do anything. so just even mention net zero, even the mention of net zero, the amount of excuses is allowed for put the for companies to just put the money no, it's all money up. oh no, it's all because of net we've got because of net zero. we've got to you more. sorry to charge you more. sorry there's nothing do about there's nothing we can do about it. used to be a few years ago. >> it was obviously following covid. remember that whenever you went into a pub, obviously following covid, there isn't any bacon. pints following covid, there isn't any bacon.pints are now £11. exactly >> or pints are now £11. exactly >> or pints are now £11. exactly >> you'll be waiting 13 hours for in. for service in. it's extraordinary they they will extraordinary the they they will latch on excuse as that latch on to any excuse as that becomes normalised. do you know what is how we started the program tonight about narratives. >> net zero has very to >> net zero has very little to do with they've not won do with this. they've not won hearts and minds with net zero. and feel very and i always feel very suspicious of anything has and i always feel very su be :ious of anything has and i always feel very su be crowbarred thing has and i always feel very su be crowbarred in.1g has and i always feel very su be crowbarred in. if has and i always feel very su be crowbarred in. if someone to be crowbarred in. if someone says you must do this

continually and continue to continually and we continue to question going, why? but question it going, but why? but why? giving us the why? you're not giving us the empirical evidence why we must do exact thing? i'm not do this exact thing? i'm not questioning climate change, but i'm why we should i'm questioning why we should react that we are to react the way that we are to climate change and always feel as we're the bad human as if we're the bad human beings. i disagree with beings. well, i disagree with you. that the idea of you. i think that the idea of net zero is a good not net zero is a good idea to not make a situation worse, which is similar to what you say. but of course it's the means by which we actually do it. and the costs that now, now that we're actually seeing things actually seeing these things implemented and implemented to try and manipulate the market like this to through like it to force it through like is it isn't how you necessarily get you can get change like that, but are going be but there are going to be unintended consequences in this case. to make people case. it's going to make people who buy a boiler next who need to buy a boiler next year £120 more. staying year pay £120 more. so staying with josh, esther with the telegraph, josh, esther rantzen exercise an rantzen continues to exercise an extraordinary control over the legislature program of the nation. >> yeah , well this is quite it's interesting. >> so yeah. esther rantzen a few days ago said she was, uh, coming out and she's, she's 83, she's got cancer. very sad. and

she's, dignitas . um, she's, uh, joined dignitas. um, and that has kind of brought this debate up again . and one of this debate up again. and one of this debate up again. and one of this article is essentially saying starmer allow saying that starmer may allow a free on assisted dying to free vote on assisted dying to end injustice , but he's not said end injustice, but he's not said that. end injustice, but he's not said that . no, there's no end injustice, but he's not said that. no, there's no indication that. no, there's no indication that he will actually do that. but because of his previous position on it, where he has when he was , uh, there's been no when he was, uh, there's been no new announcement. no, there's been no new announcement, whatever. but but but they're basically because of the basically saying because of the position he took, he rarely position that he took, he rarely prosecuted , uh, people he prosecuted, uh, people when he was he has talked about was there, he has talked about in the past. and he did when there was a vote in 2015, i think. yeah. uh, he did vote for it. >> so what do we sing? uh, a free i mean, a similar free vote? i mean, in a similar way to, you know, you vote with your conscience or whatever, you know, i think most of us know, i mean, i think most of us here would be on the libertarian side this argument, and side of this argument, and therefore, the is therefore, free will is the is therefore, free will is the is the essential backbone of libertarianism. >> and therefore would >> and therefore we would probably decide unless for religious . and that's religious reasons. and that's the only argument can find the only argument i can find really, wouldn't really, that you wouldn't do. >> argument i would

>> the other argument i would still broadly support myself, still broadly support it myself, but the experience in canada has been quite well. that's the problem, seeing how it can escalate, because i'd always thought a bogeyman, escalate, because i'd always thou kind a bogeyman, escalate, because i'd always thou kind of, a bogeyman, escalate, because i'd always thou kind of, oh, a bogeyman, escalate, because i'd always thou kind of, oh, before eyman, escalate, because i'd always thou kind of, oh, before you an, that kind of, oh, before you know it, there'll be, you know, euthanizing tramps and so on. and then you of go, ah, and then you kind of go, ah, they're euthanizing. >> and not just canada. it >> and it's not just canada. it is i think, belgium. is also i think, belgium. i remember speech nation, remember on free speech nation, they covered the story of a mother who it seems like they covered the story of a motwasrvho it seems like they covered the story of a motwas essentially seems like they covered the story of a motwas essentially putns like they covered the story of a motwas essentially put down; they covered the story of a motwas essentially put down and she was essentially put down and against her, you know, and wasn't there . and her son wasn't fully there. and her son wasn't fully there. and her son was going, wait minute, this was going, wait a minute, this was going, wait a minute, this was all gone through, and she couldn't really have made that decision so so as couldn't really have made that deci starmer so so as couldn't really have made that deci starmer repeatedlyso as couldn't really have made that deci starmer repeatedly hass keir starmer repeatedly has talked about in the past, it's about safeguarding. yeah. uh, but any when you but of course, any when you bnng but of course, any when you bring these rules in, they're always to be open to always going to be open to manipulation as, uh, manipulation and as, as, uh, ransom i think, reasonably ransom has i think, reasonably said, she can afford said, you know, she can afford to go to dignitas, but it's not it's not cheap. >> she's 20 grand. i think she's not going to be able to take all her family there. it would be quite for her to of. quite nice for her to sort of. you're not allowed to, simon. >> don't think because you

>> i don't think because you can't they can't see be can't see. they can't see be seen encouraging her. seen to be encouraging her. no. that's her own life . that's it. to take her own life. even if it was in switzerland, she kind of have to go on her own. which is. which is sad. i support choice. choice? support her choice. choice? yeah. where i stand yeah. i think is where i stand on it. >> american news now in the guardian and a state once famous for its potato eating beetles , for its potato eating beetles, is now trying to eradicate another threat to human civilisation . trump lashes out civilisation. trump lashes out at colorado, ruling this in the guardian . guardian. >> we need to we need to state right at the top. trump lashes out at colorado, ruling . out at colorado, ruling. removing him has happened. this has. yeah this is not this is not untrue but some of the way out. but i mean when i say things like lashing out slightly emotive tone. >> yeah i would say so. >> yeah i would say so. >> ruling out removing him from the predictably he says the ballot. predictably he says the ballot. predictably he says the took took the ex—president took his took to site to to his social media site to condemn decision and raise condemn the decision and raise funds. now that's why i say this in the guardian, because i don't think quite happened. and think this quite happened. and they're citing, section think this quite happened. and they'rofziting, section think this quite happened. and they'rofziting14th section think this quite happened. and they'rofziting14th amendment. three of the 14th amendment. this is not something i'm

familiar with, but do know, familiar with, but i do know, having scanned on google having scanned it on google today, mentions nothing presidents. >> section three of the 14th >> the section three of the 14th amendment, according to somebody i earlier, amendment, according to somebody i knew earlier, amendment, according to somebody i knew what earlier, amendment, according to somebody i knew what they earlier, amendment, according to somebody i knew what they were ier, amendment, according to somebody i knew what they were talking who knew what they were talking about was created in the specific context of the confederacy trying to secede from the union. yeah. >> so basically, if you had fought against. yeah, the union, then you wouldn't be able to hold political office. that's the this the idea. my thoughts on this are, this is are, however, that this is taking in colorado largely taking place in colorado largely democratic. uh uh, democratic , democratic. uh uh, democratic, um, judges there and democrats, sorry, they're all democratic , sorry, they're all democratic, largely democrat judges there. and they're ultimately they'll be, uh, superseded by the us supreme court. i think this will be overturned largely red. yeah, i think so. and because i just don't think it's right, even if it is trump, i just don't think it's right that you should be able to say this in a state. people can be out of a in at this point in the election cycle where you can see he's got a significant lead over biden. >> seems interesting. i mean,

they are absolute dancing a they are absolute dancing on a volcano. i think at the moment. >> agree with you. i think >> i agree with you. i think they are well. but want they are as well. but but i want to point that this suit was to point out that this suit was actually bought forward by republicans. right. that's number okay. this wasn't number one. okay. so this wasn't a democratic yeah. a democratic move. yeah yeah. there's horrible little things called the legalities there's horrible little things ca ited the legalities there's horrible little things ca it seem the legalities there's horrible little things ca it seem to the legalities there's horrible little things ca it seem to be the legalities there's horrible little things ca it seem to be moreagalities there's horrible little things ca it seem to be more aboutas there's horrible little things ca it seem to be more about not of it seem to be more about not fighting particular law fighting this particular law that were talking about in that we were talking about in this section, about whether that we were talking about in thwasction, about whether that we were talking about in thwas a ion, about whether that we were talking about in thwas a riot about whether that we were talking about in thwas a riot or about whether that we were talking about in thwas a riot or whethervhether that we were talking about in thwas a riot or whether itether that we were talking about in thwas a riot or whether it was' it was a riot or whether it was an insertion insurgency. and this trump himself this is what so trump himself used who, uh, to used this person who, uh, to sort him up. but it sort of back him up. but it turns out, actually, if they'd shown the full clip, legal shown the full clip, this legal expert goes to lay expert actually goes in to lay into sort of say, now into trump and sort of say, now trump doesn't help himself by calling, people who calling, uh, the people who are arrested have to jail arrested and have gone to jail political prisoners, because that to me a that doesn't suggest to me a riot suggests me an riot that suggests to me an insurgency. there's insurgency. so there's a contradiction coming contradiction there, even coming from contradiction there, even coming frorwell, it's tricky there, >> well, it's tricky there, isn't it? it could suggest i take your point, but it could suggest that they are criminals. take your point, but it could sugyout that they are criminals. take your point, but it could sugyou mightthey are criminals. take your point, but it could sugyou might evenire criminals. take your point, but it could sugyou might even justriminals. take your point, but it could sugyou might even just say1als. or you might even just say overenthusiastic protesters, vandals who have been who have been martyred in the pursuit of elevating this to an insurgency.

so in that respect , would they so in that respect, would they then be political prisoners? because they've been turned into political pawns ? essentially, political pawns? essentially, they're being used to create a sense of, yeah, no, no, that's true. >> yeah. but we're not seeing anything from even, even the democratic side of the argument that suggests that they're going to this in any meaningful to fight this in any meaningful way, no it feels to me way, though. no it feels to me like trump actually on path way, though. no it feels to me likbecome actually on path way, though. no it feels to me likbecome the ctually on path way, though. no it feels to me likbecome the usally on path way, though. no it feels to me likbecome the us presidentth to become the us president again. and if he is, it's largely because of the way the democrats have led in the last three years. >> totally agree with you. and the remarkable thing is they've actually good few actually had a pretty good few years well. the economy is years as well. the economy is doing america. ron doing very well in america. ron desantis is saying that this is a conspiracy. >> he's of suggesting >> he's sort of suggesting that actually this is the democrats. they're not fighting it very specifically because they want trump to be the, the main opposition, because that would then voters, then bring out their voters, whereas else a bit more, whereas someone else a bit more, you less marginal, you know, less marginal, would, uh of sense to that uh, maybe a lot of sense to that as well. >> very interesting telegraph. now we've heard of now josh, uh, we've heard of nose to tail eating, is nose to tail eating, but this is a idea. oh man. a new idea. oh man. >> come on, i did you did you

ever watch that film? the, uh, the human census? i feel weird, even. the human census? i feel weird, even . i never watched it. even. i never watched it. i never watched it. no. khalife approves toilet to tap scheme to recycle the drinking water. um, this is because , of course, this is because, of course, there's some real issues with water. this is actually the second state to do it. i think colorado, which maybe that's what happened with uh and what happened with trump. uh and uh, yeah , they've used uh, so yeah, they've used they've recycled water for, for a long time. but this is the first time they, it actually it's going to have stricter legislation than, than normal recycled water in terms of they have to get treat it for stuff that it doesn't even have. essentially like for everything. and then they add the minerals back to it. >> we all i mean, most of our drinking water in london has been recycled. i think they say six times in london on, on average. to that. average. nothing new to that. is there ? not going into there? it's not all going into there? it's not all going into the and being rained, is the ocean and being rained, is it? >> when they say when it goes in, anyone who lives downstream of a recycling plant or water in, anyone who lives downstream of a rislcling plant or water in, anyone who lives downstream of a ris going plant or water in, anyone who lives downstream of a ris going plant drinking

plant is going to be drinking recycled yeah. um, plant is going to be drinking recythey yeah. um, plant is going to be drinking recythey like yeah. um, plant is going to be drinking recythey like i yeah. um, plant is going to be drinking recythey like i say, yeah. um, plant is going to be drinking recythey like i say, they 'eah. um, plant is going to be drinking recythey like i say, they have jm, plant is going to be drinking recythey like i say, they have an, but they like i say, they have a big water problem. this if it is healthy and the science is strident. >> one thing they seem unable to filter out water of course is hormones isn't it. this is the concern endocrine turns the frogs gay son. yeah, exactly. yeah. the oestrogens or oestrogens. but that may be as another issue. i don't know, i think. well, maybe, maybe this will pass the point of. oh yeah. >> you think that's of >> you think that's me? of course, we've already course, as we've already covered, nearly all water is recycled in shape or form. recycled in one shape or form. >> water is recycled, but by >> all water is recycled, but by its nature , you it its very nature, you know, it doesn't come the tap. doesn't just come from the tap. >> as my dad would have told >> no, as my dad would have told me, when i was five me, you know, when i was five years old and just left the tap running. but but, um, it's the way this story frames it. it makes it's just a makes it sound like it's just a pipe makes it sound like it's just a pipe straight from someone's toilet door toilet into the next door neighbour's you go. neighbour's house. there you go. it's through cafetiere. it's been through a cafetiere. sort yeah, been sort of. yeah. yeah, it's been for a little filter. now. now, get on and drink they do get on and drink it. they do manage cram a lot of climate manage to cram a lot of climate change story as well. change into this story as well. well, i mean but but it's well, water i mean but but it's not even about climate change because are real water

because there are real water shortages. so is shortages. there are. so this is something in the desert, something that in the desert, partly should partly because california should never occupied anyway. never have been occupied anyway. >> mean, chinatown, that great. >> t yeah, great. >> yeah, yeah. >> yeah. yeah, yeah. >> yeah. yeah, yeah. >> about all about that >> all about all about that isn't yeah. years ago. 60 isn't it? yeah. 70 years ago. 60 years well done for making years ago. well done for making it halfway in the third section. we out, examined, fighting we got out, examined, fighting his his his way upstream to his ancestral

lose radio. >> and welcome back to headliners. we're into the second half. telegraph now, paul . and the uk government is having a bit of a post—troubles trouble with ireland. >> they are. yeah. this is reared its head again sunak to fight irish attempt strike fight irish attempt to strike down in echr . so down troubles. law in echr. so this is minister attacks dublin's misguided in inverted commas challenge to british act giving immunity to hundreds of soldiers. so this is chris heaton—harris, the northern ireland secretary. he said that the uk government profoundly regrets the decision taken by the irish government to bring

this unnecessary case against the uk. and this is talking about immunity against obviously people that fought in the troubles in northern ireland and if their soldiers, they were only following orders anyway. well, this and this, this , these well, this and this, this, these particular troubles are something we were discussing in the break. it doesn't get discussed a lot anymore, but of course this has been the bane of these troubles. you know who should who should not be prosecuted, should go to prosecuted, who should go to jail, be released. jail, who should be released. now, ultimately, the way to now, ultimately, the only way to move much like the good move forward, much like the good friday of friday agreement is a level of forgiveness and i'm on the uk side of this, not unsurprisingly, i guess, but i don't see the point now in dragging this on. it just seems vengeance that can be. >> it's 25 years since the initial agreement was made. i think it's , um, emblematic of think it's, um, emblematic of what we're seeing in ireland right now with their particular flavour of politics and leadership. >> you saw that with the riots after the riots. that's the problem. they've got it into my head. they weren't really riots.

there were just people very upset saying, please don't stab our women and children. there was some yeah, was definitely some riots. yeah, okay. some largely okay. there was some largely peaceful rioting going on. but you know what mean ? the way it you know what i mean? the way it was framed. yeah exactly. the way the way it was framed was far right. >> far right. yeah >> far right. yeah >> that's we were told. >> that's what we were told. these far right. it's just these are far right. it's just a crack. yeah, just a crack. >> so are you saying that you think this is like whipping up a certain of electoral? certain amount of electoral? well i think they're on back foot. >> i foot. »| foot. >> i this is me being >> i mean, this is me being cynical, but think the irish cynical, but i think the irish government, amongst their government, even amongst their own on the back foot own people, are on the back foot slightly here. >> yeah, yeah. >> yeah, yeah. >> the point that you >> to the point that you actually of irish actually see a lot of irish people agreeing with english actually see a lot of irish people on'eeing with english actually see a lot of irish people on subjectsth english actually see a lot of irish people on subjects now,glish actually see a lot of irish people on subjects now, which is unheard of. >> they're drawing attention. >> so they're drawing attention. >> so they're drawing attention. >> so they're drawing attention. >> so this to me like >> so this feels to me like they're the they're trying to change the a lot i don't lot of sense. yeah, i don't know. i mean, uh, the whole point of uk government point of, of the uk government bringing this bringing forward this legislation give people legislation was to give people closure, being that if closure, the idea being that if we just, um, do a general amnesty, then people come amnesty, then people can come forward, happened forward, reveal what happened to security officers, to army officers, to, to, uh, and then families know the fate of

families will know the fate of their makes their loved ones. that makes sense absolutely. it's sense to me. absolutely. it's unlikely any one's to unlikely that any one's going to be jail after 25 years. be sent to jail after 25 years. at other cases are going through. >> just allows for a history to be understood at a personal and national level. >> but so but but the >> yeah, but so but but the irish government obviously feels differently. >> think paul's on to >> well, i think paul's on to something there. but scotland and the times alex and now josh in the times alex salmond has got the gender reform bit between his teeth . reform bit between his teeth. >> he sure has. he's sticking it to his former comrades . alex to his former comrades. alex salmond gender reforms were the worst legislation in the history of devolution. devolution 100% agree with him. it was a massive mistake, a massive own goal. uh, and uh, and then shona robinson, who's the deputy first minister uh, has sort of admitted so, but she won't apologise for it. but she's saying yes, but, uh, you know, we need a lessons about hollywood, needs to up its game on the bill scrutiny. now she was in charge of all of that. and i remember as it was going through. yeah. uh women's rights activists were giving providing

evidence. just being evidence. it was just being ignored called up. and it ignored or not called up. and it was was just like they was like it was just like they were what they wanted to were seeing what they wanted to see and ignoring rest of it. see and ignoring the rest of it. >> were extraordinarily dogmatic. >> yeah, passionate and biased about, they might say. >> but it was it was just ridiculous. >> it was crazy. and evidence based policing, policy making so that this is coming out of her mouth after that. and what feminist s were the way they were treated during the creation of this bill? uh, and the idea that she's not going to apologise for it is humza yousaf is not mentioned in this particular article. >> i don't think, but he was certainly very keen it as certainly very keen on it as well. right. it's not like they've got a clean like, not at all. >> the reason he's not mentioned. largely not because it's the times, in general it's the times, but in general is because they're trying to separate now sturgeon, separate him now from sturgeon, which he's which of course they can't. he's a of sturgeon in the a product of sturgeon in the same way that sturgeon is a prodigy salmon . and is prodigy of salmon. and salmon is going the last blow. going to wield the last blow. i think some point in time you think at some point in time you when on, the debates when this went on, the debates went on. the galleries were full

to brim of trans activists. to the brim of trans activists. they weren't , josh said. they weren't, josh said. feminists are not tend agree feminists are not tend to agree with that, but a lot of with josh on that, but a lot of them women. women that them were just women. women that said, can we protect our said, please can we protect our spaces would not be wished or wished? wished wished and wished? yeah. wished wished and rightly. won't be wished rightly. women won't be wished and rightly so. you this and rightly so. you know this was suicide. political suicide from sturgeon and the snp . from sturgeon and the snp. >> so arrogant as well, wasn't it? because were convinced it? because they were convinced that tied up rishi that they had tied up rishi sunakin that they had tied up rishi sunak in knots? yeah. and the right side of history as well. >> i morality on their side and whatnot. >> david mellor. now paul, there seems some controversy in seems to be some controversy in parliament the exact parliament over the exact meaning of the north. does it meaning of the north. it does it or does not include or does it not include islington? or does it not include isling definitely doesn't . uh, >> it definitely doesn't. uh, ministers boasting ministers mocked after boasting of using £235 million taken from cancelling hs2 train line to fix roads in london and branding it part of a scheme to improve connectivity to the north, which of course is absolutely ridiculous. this department of transport sparked up, sparked uproar this morning when it hailed the new spending in the

capital as being made . yeah. oh capital as being made. yeah. oh my goodness they sparked up. yes, yes as being made possible for using a rerouted rt funding. so of course, i mean what makes northerners happier than . seeing northerners happier than. seeing london's roads in peak condition ? >> 7- >> you're 7_ >> you're not 7 >> you're not going to get a new railway because we need to fill in. yeah, but i mean, is i don't know, the state of the roads is terrible. terrible. >> technically it is connecting to the yeah. it's just to the north. yeah. it's just connecting the connecting stratford and the north little bit. it's north just a little bit. it's connected. there's connect . connected. there's a connect. part connection is part of the connection is definitely to the north i always enjoyed. definitely to the north i always endi'mi. sure it's entirely >> i'm not sure it's entirely relevant, but, um, coming of relevant, but, um, coming out of king's about king's cross, i lived about a mile of king's cross, uh, mile north of king's cross, uh, holloway towards caledonia holloway towards angel caledonia and are two roads that go and there are two roads that go up york way and caledonia, up there york way and caledonia, near think was near caledonia. i think it was like word for scotland, like an old word for scotland, basically, isn't feels basically, isn't it? it feels like basically, isn't it? it feels uke had basically, isn't it? it feels like had one road like it. so you had one road leaving that was for leaving london that was for scotland. and then about 500 yards left, you had yards to the left, you had another to york . i another one going to york. i always you could probably always felt you could probably have the same. yeah.

have used the same. yeah. >> at least, at least until you got york. yeah, it's kind of got to york. yeah, it's kind of on way, isn't it. on the way, isn't it. >> then you kind of branch >> and then you kind of branch off i don't know if that off anyway. i don't know if that would some money. um, would save him some money. um, let's. have now? the let's. what have we got now? the telegraph dietary advice. uh, josh, occasional faster josh, an occasional faster yourself, maybe. this sounds josh, an occasional faster youraelf, maybe. this sounds josh, an occasional faster youra goodaybe. this sounds josh, an occasional faster youra good idea. this sounds josh, an occasional faster youra good idea. yeah.ounds like a good idea. yeah. >> demetrian to tackle >> look, go demetrian to tackle climate change. report urges climate change. un report urges so ? so, uh, they need to cut the so? so, uh, they need to cut the amount of nitrogen going into the environment . a lot of that the environment. a lot of that comes through the treatment of foodstuffs and growing foodstuffs and growing foodstuffs to feed animals . uh, foodstuffs to feed animals. uh, they're saying part of it can be done with science and better or more efficient farming techniques , but they are saying techniques, but they are saying that a part of the cutting down this , this waste or surplus of this, this waste or surplus of nitrogen into the environment is going to be by people cutting down on their meat. right? yeah. um, so it's about growing animal feed rather than animals. yes. that uses up a lot more. yeah, exactly . um, and they're saying exactly. um, and they're saying so . yeah. cutting people down to so. yeah. cutting people down to around 500g of meat of course.

someone, uh, like , obviously our someone, uh, like, obviously our own louis schaeffer would argue that meat is what keeps that meat eating is what keeps you slim and is the healthiest way to eat. uh, but as someone who is entering into a christmas penod who is entering into a christmas period where i have gone a little bit bonkers , uh, on the little bit bonkers, uh, on the foodstuffs , i maybe think that , foodstuffs, i maybe think that, uh, cutting down could be a good thing. >> yeah, well, you've you've eaten too much. you mean i am ? eaten too much. you mean i am? >> i've gone crazy, have you? i've gone uber two in the morning, every morning. burgers coming to the house. steph takyi. that's good. i mean , i takyi. that's good. i mean, i went to a dinner party last night, which doesn't sound like the sort of thing i would go to, does it? but i did go to a dinner party and it was full to the brim of lots of cheese and meats, sort meats, of sort of a pre—christmas thing. and all pre—christmas thing. and i'm all for i'm not for it. i mean, i'm not convinced, i'm still not convinced. and i've actually had this conversation in private with impact of with josh around the impact of methane change. and methane and climate change. and i could leave us i just think they could leave us alone little bit. you know, we alone a little bit. you know, we haven't lot enjoy, and haven't got a lot to enjoy, and i can't i think it's negligible.

i can't i think it's negligible. i genuinely i know i can't back that up with i don't think that up with also i don't think people that much red people do eat that much red meat, do they? >> mean, i like red louis does >> i mean, i like red louis does it all for us all that much. i think what people eat a lot of is like crap. you know, i think it good if we all just it would be good if we all just improved few a bit improved our diet a few a bit less and good stuff. that would probably make sort of probably make some sort of sense. and i think, i suspect, i don't might just don't know, it might just be prejudice, suspect you prejudice, but i suspect if you thought yourself i'm going to eat less meat, but better meat, that might healthier for the that might be healthier for the environment i don't environment too. i don't know. yeah, i'm sure it would be. >> i worry that a lot of the stuff i eat that's like in sandwiches, you know. yeah. chicken sandwiches, that's probably had healthy probably not had a very healthy life cycle before ends up in life cycle before it ends up in there. i don't don't there. i don't know, i don't know, it's just just prejudice as say. yeah, that's usually as i say. yeah, that's usually the it's the best approach. maybe it's a bit selfish of and is enjoyable. >> i just think that if we were to go, if we were going to go full greta, yeah, we'd all end up just eating sort of witchetty grubs and living tents grubs and living in tents or whatever, doesn't. whatever, and it just doesn't. it just feel like it

it just doesn't feel like it just feels like an overreaction to me. well, this doesn't this isn't full, greta. they're isn't going full, greta. they're saying, to have saying, but i just want to have a at greta. josh, a little a go at greta. josh, a little bit. half greta, demi. bit. greta, half greta, demi. >> yeah. a good >> greta. yeah. a another good reason back on the reason to cut back on the calories. paul. as girth is in inversely related fertility, inversely related to fertility, if not to pleasure. >> yeah. i'm starting to feel a little bit sorry for women. an extra one centimetre around the waist. risk waist. raise is risk of infertility by 3. yeah so, um, i mean, don't use me as an example. i i basically if you have got a 43 inch waist or greater , which even i don't have greater, which even i don't have a 43 inch waist, then you are twice as likely to struggle to get pregnant as those with a waist ironmaiden or get someone pregnant. >> so this is pregnant women. >> so this is pregnant women. >> all women. yeah, >> it's all about women. yeah, this about women. josh, are this is about women. josh, are you that only can you saying that only women can get you saying get pregnant? are you saying that really not over that you're really not over 43in? this is the big 43in? yeah this is the big debate. i'm not over 43in. i'm a 38 inch waist. i believe it or not. what? yeah, i'm 44 or something. no, you're not. well,

actually, you're probably wearing trousers where you're supposed to, wearing mine supposed to, so i'm wearing mine under maybe. you under the girth maybe. are you wearing. over wearing. are you wearing over your no your ankles? no >> noble tradition of british club comedian. yeah, absolutely folded over their belt. there's no problem with this . no problem with this. >> yeah, we should say, all joking that is joking aside, that this is completely and utterly related to women who want to to 100% real women who want to get pregnant. they're saying to 100% real women who want to get |for1nant. they're saying to 100% real women who want to get |for1nant. centimetre; saying to 100% real women who want to get |for1nant. centimetre overing that for every centimetre over what is a 30 inch waist is really creating a 3% knocking off your, well, probability , you off your, well, probability, you will not. >> um, yeah . >> um, yeah. >> um, yeah. >> yeah. i mean, i found that every inch extra of fat i have around my testicles also . that around my testicles also. that makes a difference to me. wow. yeah you've got five kids in the measurements of it. you've got you've got some athletes testicles. this is actually . but testicles. this is actually. but this is an interesting, uh, bringing together of two subjects that we commonly deal with, which is the replacement theory in terms of the need to up our population growth . and up our population growth. and uh, and obesity. yeah. so this is the bringing together of the

both . if we don't deal with both. if we don't deal with obesity with women, we're not going to deal with the other one. >> we're just going to die out. and they've already got to you just. yeah yeah. section to go with switzerland going snow blind. south

and welcome back to headliners for our final section. the male now josh switzerland are taking an interesting approach to the war on drugs. total capitulation in deed switzerland considers legalise cocaine. >> politicians declare the war on drugs has failed . and, uh, we on drugs has failed. and, uh, we have someone here who says, uh, we have a lot of cocaine in switzerland right now. uh, the cheapest prices and the highest quality we have ever seen. that's the deputy director of addiction. switzerland he's also the chair of the tourist board .

the chair of the tourist board. everybody booking flights there. everything must go . you gotta everything must go. you gotta know it. it's. it's like you get a bump for like, ten francs, a price of beer. come on over. but it's also got the highest cocaine use of three of the cities i think are on the top ten. is it really cities around the world? um, and despite that very strong economy. yeah so it's, safe . not surprising. it's, uh, safe. not surprising. must be working very hard . yeah. must be working very hard. yeah. all good quality cocaine. all this good quality cocaine. the coming from the reality is it's coming from a place where so many there seem to done it, but it also to have done it, but it also seems i've joked about in seems to. i've joked about it in the i've never actually the past. i've never actually done it. i've never even tried a cigarette. but uh, because my family it. but there is an family did it. but there is an argument when you legalise argument that when you legalise something less something and make it less cool as such. uh, that it might as such. yeah, uh, that it might . you know, see that with . you know, we see that with alcohol and even think alcohol and, and even i think we'd stuff like teenagers, we'd use stuff like teenagers, you they, they, they see you know, they, they, they see the adults it legally and the adults doing it legally and they to sort of push back they decide to sort of push back against it. >> well, prohibition certainly proved alcohol >> well, prohibition certainly p|disaster alcohol >> well, prohibition certainly p|disaster created, :ohol a disaster and created, organised crime in america. you know, so i think that is i mean,

i absolutely agree with it from that point of view. it's tricky to know with with cocaine, isn't it, think any, it, because i don't think any, any has ever really, you any country has ever really, you know, done it. yeah yeah. but maybe will work it, if it maybe it will work if it, if it were to make it safer for people. i suppose the fear is that it might simply be, uh, just elevate, use and people that might not turn out to be a terrible thing. it's more addictive of people will talk more rubbish. >> yeah. which is bad . >> yeah. which is bad. >> yeah. which is bad. >> and people do die in their 50s or 60s, usually. this is the thing young people seem to be able to take it with a degree of impunity, as long as it's reasonably pure. but there comes a point when your heart gives out. know, maybe out. i don't know, maybe that would then, of course, would be. but then, of course, i always feel like there's an hypocrisy with alcohol. >> bad drug. that's >> alcohol is a bad drug. that's the reality of it. but it's legalised. we make a lot of money it with taxes and money from it with taxes and whatnot in our culture as well, isn't it? >> yeah. >> yeah. >> i love a beer. i'm not >> and i love a beer. i'm not i'm whining about it. i'm i'm not whining about it. i'm just saying there is hypocrisy. there absolutely. where another

drug with arguably also, um, negative it is negative aspects to it is suddenly the most thing suddenly the most evil thing in the yeah. what the world. yeah. so yeah. what do think, paul? well, there do you think, paul? well, there was no war on drugs for pre pre nixon was there. that was a phrase coined. ever phrase that he coined. and ever since then establishment since then the establishment have lose that war. have continued to lose that war. yeah. if you speak to any yeah. and if you speak to any policeman been of policeman that's been part of that a long time, they'll that for a long time, they'll tell you they've got no grip on it whatsoever. and the criminals are ultimately are winning. so ultimately i think drugs think de legalising drugs is probably try probably a good thing to try now. because taking now. yeah. because taking control, control of control, taking back control of the drug supply, um, is going is going in some way towards helping user sure they helping the user make sure they get the right quality whenever they you're to then they do. and you're able to then manage flux. manage the flow and flux. and what the criminals going to what are the criminals going to do? yeah, if you can just buy it in vending machine anyway. in a vending machine anyway. >> tragic. in a vending machine anyway. >> vending tragic. in a vending machine anyway. >> vending machine . this is my >> vending machine. this is my new idea. okay. tragic tales of insane pressure from south insane exam pressure from south korea. insane exam pressure from south kor now the telegraph. >> now in the telegraph. >> now in the telegraph. >> it's terrifying, this >> if it's terrifying, this stuff actually, let me stuff actually, um, but let me read the story so you know what i'm talking about. so south korean sue government korean students sue government after teacher ends nine hour exam, 90s early and on the face

of it, you'd think that wouldn't bother any of us. you'd be thinking, that's a great relief. but of course, there's this huge culture here in in south korea. this is the case of reflection of intense pressure placed on south korean teenagers who take the difficult sun. the notoriously difficult sun. young i don't know if that's how you pronounce it. apologies if suneung exam each year after revising for hours in so—called cram . schools. so they're cram. schools. so they're actually taking the government to court here because these the results of these exams mean so much to these people that they're afraid that that 90s is going to be detrimental to them. of course, in anywhere else in the world, this wouldn't be an issue. yeah. we're stupid everywhere else. >> get on to the one last story that we have time for this evening, because it's so appealing. the charming story of late stage, eccentric, wealthy benefactor behaviour. >> . yeah. >> yeah. oh, yeah. >> yeah. oh, yeah. >> feels like movie . >> it feels like a movie. >> it feels like a movie. >> hermes. hermes has. on golly gosh, hermes has, uh, legal fight to leave his fortune to his gardener. this is nicholas

pooch or whatever. uh now, this is the third richest family in the world. yeah, i didn't know that hermes was still a, uh, still a privately owned brand. yeah, i thought they were the parcel delivery service, but, uh. out they also do uh. but turns out they also do scarves. yeah. and bags and whatnot. he doesn't whatnot. and. yeah, he doesn't have and he's have any kids, and he's. he's bonded his moroccan bonded with his moroccan gardener his wife , and they gardener and his wife, and they took of him covid, took care of him during covid, and he to basically adopt and he wants to basically adopt him, adopt them and give him half the dosh. >> i mean, it feels like it might be cruel to give a gardener literally like billions. i don't know, it might destabilise him. >> he's probably i think i think he'll do right. yeah. if he'll do all right. yeah. if they were, might disable. they were, they might disable. okay. yeah. he might then okay. yeah. yeah. he might then hire gardener. i mean he might hire a gardener. i mean he might do feet up. do put his feet up. >> don't that. start >> don't do it like that. start eating kinds of unhealthy eating all kinds of unhealthy food. think food. yeah i think it's fascinating though, just how huge luxury brands are huge these luxury brands are because not part of my because it's not part of my world. but lvmh, louis vuitton, um , moet hennessy that is . the um, moet hennessy that is. the first european brand to go over

half $1 trillion in capitalisation. they own almost all the other brands except for hermes . hermes. >> oh, really? well, they want it. >> and it never touches my world at all. anyway go into gardening show is nearly over. let's take another look thursday's another quick look at thursday's front pages. the daily mail, what they to our beautiful what they did to our beautiful brianna us forever. brianna will haunt us forever. the guardian outrage over police access to 50 million driving licence to run face checks. the eye tax cuts in 2024 after surprise fall in inflation. the times cheaper mortgages set to ease living costs for financial times. modi ready to look into any evidence of an assassination plot on american soil. the daily star the apocalypse soon that's 200 years. well that's all we have time for. thank you to my guest, josh howie and paul cox. we're back tomorrow when josh and paul will be back with louis schaefer. will see you after schaefer. i will see you after christmas. if you're watching at 5 tuned for breakfast. 5 am, stay tuned for breakfast. otherwise night. 5 am, stay tuned for breakfast. otheyour night. 5 am, stay tuned for breakfast. otheyour god night. 5 am, stay tuned for breakfast. otheyour god go night. 5 am, stay tuned for breakfast. otheyour god go with night. 5 am, stay tuned for breakfast. otheyour god go with you. night. may your god go with you. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb

news. >> hello. good evening . welcome >> hello. good evening. welcome to your latest gb news weather update from the met office. thursday is going to be a very blustery day for the uk, with a wind warning force for wind warning in force for a large swathe of the uk. that's as storm peer, named by the danish met service , will sweep danish met service, will sweep this frontal system across the uk. the strongest winds are expected to be into the north sea, we will see some very sea, but we will see some very gusty winds across the bulk of northern areas of the uk before then, though, we'll see a lot of cloud around through the rest of the night. persistent drizzly rain and western rain across northern and western areas. that rain will give way to blustery showers across the north tomorrow north of scotland by tomorrow morning. this morning. and it's this at this point, the winds really strengthen. we could see storm force winds across the northern isles, gales quite widely isles, but gales quite widely where do have warning in where we do have that warning in force, band sweeps force, that rain band sweeps southward through the day. so the skies will become clearer. there be sunny spells there will be some sunny spells by but as i said, by the afternoon, but as i said, it is to be a very

it is going to be a very blustery afternoon and there will be quite intense will be some quite intense showers the north showers moving in from the north and the southwest will and west. the southwest will hold on to slightly milder hold on to the slightly milder air, lot that air, but a lot more of that cloud and through much of cloud and rain through much of the and we're likely to see the day, and we're likely to see some delays due to that some travel delays due to that wind warning as well. friday will likely be a calmer, but still quite a windy day, and we'll see a stream of showers still moving in from the north and west. in the southwest, though, a drier and brighter day. however, in the far north, with the strong winds and a risk of snow showers, there is risk of snow showers, there is a risk of snow showers, there is a risk of blizzards the weekend, of blizzards into the weekend, though mild though it does stay mild and windy run up to windy in the run up to christmas. that's all for now. see you later. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt sponsors boxt boilers, sponsors of weather on .

ireland has launched legal action against 10 downing street overits action against 10 downing street over its decision to offer veterans immunity for crimes committed during the troubles. our northern ireland reporter dougie beattie with more . dougie beattie with more. commercial >> the irish government, of course , causing a legal battle , course, causing a legal battle, causing a legal battle in order that they might bring back those who and have answers to, uh, legacy problems . so keir starmer legacy problems. so keir starmer arrives in estonia to meet british troops at a nato base deployed near the russian border. >> as he faces criticism at home for representing a notorious hate preacher during his time as a barrister . today hate preacher during his time as a barrister. today is 35 years

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