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teenage killers of briannaj will be named. d0 teenage killers of briannaj will be named. do you agree with that decision? should there ever be a case where a criminal has anonymity and of course, the junior doctors are still on strike? and are you still supporting them? and get this right , the police will be able right, the police will be able to run facial recognition searches on a database containing images of britain's 50 million driving licence holders . this 50 million driving licence holders. this is all under a new law that's been quietly shuffled in. do you support that? are you of the campaign? have you got nothing to hide? don't worry about it. or do you sit there and think, hang on just a second. that is my privacy that we are talking about. and bradford university is set to introduce scholarships for white working . good. working class males. good. that's i say. it's about that's what i say. it's about time. some positive attention finally went that group . do finally went to that group. do you agree ? well, we're going to
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you agree? well, we're going to be getting stuck into all of that. but before we do, let's cross live for tonight's latest headunes. headlines. >> michelle. thank you. good evening. i'm sam francis. the headunes evening. i'm sam francis. the headlines at six. emergency services in prague say more than 14 people have been killed in a mass shooting at a university. dozen more are wounded. the gunman's body has also been found in the area . czech police found in the area. czech police are reporting the suspect's father was also found dead earlier today. officers responded to reports of a shooter at around 2:00 uk time this afternoon . we understand he this afternoon. we understand he opened fire from a roof in downtown prague . reports say downtown prague. reports say that the shooter was a student at the faculty of arts at charles university, and we understand that the shooting is not currently being treated as a terrorist attack here in the uk . terrorist attack here in the uk. a murder investigation has been launched after a four year old
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boy died following a knife attack in east london. the metropolitan police said they received a call just before 11:00 last night, raising concerns for the welfare of a child at a property in hackney. the boy was found with knife injuries and was taken to hospital, where he died. hospital, where he later died. a 41 year old woman has been arrested on suspicion murder . arrested on suspicion of murder. an inquest into the death of the asylum seeker aboard the bibby stockholm barge has found that he died from compression of the neck, caused by hanging . the neck, caused by hanging. the albanian asylum seeker was found unresponsive aboard the barge on the 12th of december. the coroner said there weren't thought to be any suspicious circumstances surrounding his death . a pre—inquest review is death. a pre—inquest review is to be held on the 9th of july. the labour leader says there's a real and a real and constant threat to europe from russia. that's as he visits british troops in estonia . sir keir troops in estonia. sir keir starmer has been watching training sessions on a nato base bordering with russia. he's there to show his commitment to there to show his commitment to
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the military alliance and has thanked servicemen and women for their courage, integrity , their their courage, integrity, their loyalty and professionalism . sir loyalty and professionalism. sir keir warns that the west must not lose sight of moscow's threat to europe. i'm here to say thank you to our troops here in estonia who are based on the border pretty much with russia for the work they're doing keeping us safe, the work they're doing for nato, but also to reaffirm our unshakeable commitment for nato and our unshakeable commitment to ukraine, and to remind everybody that russia is a constant threat, not just now, but into the future . keir starmer in the future. keir starmer in estonia, there's more travel disruption to the christmas getaway, with hundreds of passengers left stranded at euston station. that's his last minute eurostar strikes and cancelled trains are being blamed for mass disruption at one of the capital's busiest train stations , as our reporter
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train stations, as our reporter charlie peters, has more significant travel chaos tonight out of london, tens of thousands of journeys interrupted french staff striking on the eurostar has meant that up to 25 services have been cancelled out of saint pancras international , and both pancras international, and both at king's cross and euston on the west coast main line and east coast main line, interrupted after trees fell on overhead lines due to winds caused by storm pier. >> the met office record winds of up to 115mph earlier today. >> well , that weather is >> well, that weather is bringing more travel chaos to the christmas plans of many people trying to get away for the holidays comes as one man has been taken to hospital after a tree fell onto his car in derbyshire. british airways flights have also been disrupted and the national rail is reporting that not only routes in houston but across scotland and parts of wales are affected as well. a yellow weather warning is in place in scotland until 9:00 evening. it also until 9:00 this evening. it also covers belfast, newcastle and
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manchester. this is gb news weather across the uk on your tv, in your car, digital radio and on your smart speaker. now though. more from . michelle. though. more from. michelle. >> thank you very much for that. i am michelle jubrin. i'm with you till seven. just listening to those headlines there. i'm seeing thinking, are we ever had a year we haven't had a year where we haven't had significant travel chaos? when people home people are trying to get home for christmas , has there ever for christmas, has there ever been a year get in touch been a year ipso get in touch and tell me when it is. and also, why so at also, why are we so bad at seemingly managing our traffic flow country? get in flow in this country? get in touch and let me know. but i'll tell you who's keeping me company tonight till 7:00. i've got the former of the company tonight till 7:00. i've got tkelvinner of the company tonight till 7:00. i've got tkelvin mackenzie,: the company tonight till 7:00. i've got tkelvin mackenzie, and�* company tonight till 7:00. i've got tkelvin mackenzie, and the sun, kelvin mackenzie, and the co—founder of the together campaign, miller. campaign, alan miller. good evening you. hi evening to both of you. hi there. you know the drill as well on this program. not well on this program. it's not just it's very just about us. it's very much about you guys at home. what's on mind tonight? on your mind tonight? get in touch. usual ways. touch. all the usual ways. vaiews@gbnews.com. or if twitter is your thing, you can
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reach there at news. and reach me there at gb news. and speaking of twitter, i've got a poll running. want to you, poll running. i want to ask you, do think ever do you think there's ever a event, an occasion, a reason why a convicted criminal should ever have anonymity? i'll be coming on to that story in just a second. currently, 92% of you say no to that question, but get your thoughts on that twitter poll coming in and i'll have the results of that before the end of the program. but for now, huge over prague , a huge story over in prague, a mass shooting. let me cross live to mark white to bring us up to speed with the very latest on this. good evening to you, mark. i mean absolutely horrendous. tell what we know so far. tell us what we know so far. >> yeah, horrific events that unfolded early afternoon in prague, in the old town at charles university, at the faculty of arts campus there, which overlooks the historic square, and a gunman, according to the police in prague , who was to the police in prague, who was himself a student at the faculty
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of arts, gained access to the building, went up to the fourth floor to a balcony overlooking the square , and began opening the square, and began opening fire there. now, at this moment, the police in prague have confirmed that more than 15 people have been killed 24 others have been wounded . some others have been wounded. some of those seriously injured. and the video that came out at the time, you're looking at the video there showing actually some of the students, about a dozen of them perching , uh, just dozen of them perching, uh, just on a ledge there by the balcony trying to get away from the gunman who was just nearby by shooting from that balcony, putting themselves in a really precarious position, but clearly feeling that it was the only opfion feeling that it was the only option open to them to get their heads down, and the hope that the gunman wouldn't see that they were there . others were they were there. others were just running from the square. but of course, this gunman had a high vantage point with a long
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barrelled weapon looking down onto the square and just opening fire on people who were running. lots of people . not just, of lots of people. not just, of course , from prague, but from course, from prague, but from all over the world, had gone to this historic city at this time of year. there was a couple there, newly married from the uk . they were visiting prague . . they were visiting prague. they were in a cafe just opposite where the gunman was when a policeman came bursting in, shouting at them in czech to stay down the um . the man, stay down the um. the man, thomas lees , who was there with thomas lees, who was there with his , uh, new wife, had had to his, uh, new wife, had had to shout to the officer , uh, i shout to the officer, uh, i can't understand you. he then told them in english to get their heads down that there was an active shooter, and that's what they did. stayed safe and they are okay. and in fact, most of the students in the university did likewise. uh you know, it's a sad reflection of
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the time we're in, but because we've had so many mass shootings , especially in the united states, people kind of instinctive know that the best thing to do is shelter in place, barricade yourself into a room . barricade yourself into a room. and we saw images that came out from the university that showed students that had piled chairs and tables and anything else they could find up against the doors to try to say , stay safe. doors to try to say, stay safe. you see, one of the images there of a door in one of the classrooms that has been piled high with chairs and tables to try to keep this gunman out. absolutely horrific . absolutely horrific. >> and mark, do we know the motive? do we know what's caused this? >> it seems that this early stage that it's a similar type motive to a lot of the, uh, school and university students shootings that we see in the us. uh, a gunman , a 24 year old man uh, a gunman, a 24 year old man who had posted on social media
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in recent days about how much he hated the university, his fellow students, how much they hated him, and how he wanted to carry out a mass shooting and took his inspiration from a number of recent shootings, including one in russia earlier this month. now what the police have revealed is that he was in, uh , revealed is that he was in, uh, lived in a village about 13 miles from prague , that at that miles from prague, that at that house at the family home. this gunman's father was found dead. this morning, uh, killed , we this morning, uh, killed, we believe, by the gunman who then went on to carry out this rampage. there was a massive police manhunt for him, but. but clearly, they didn't catch up with him in time before he carried out this rampage. thank you very much, mark, for bringing us up to speed with that. >> with a devastating story. i mean, sometimes it just makes you wonder what on earth this world is coming to. doesn't it? uh, senseless loss of
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uh, what a senseless loss of life well. so many people are life as well. so many people are so young. um know, so very young. um you know, and i'll about senseless i'll tell you about senseless waste of of course, you'll waste of life. of course, you'll be familiar with the horrendous murder. uh of brianna jay. now a judge ruled today that the two teenagers that were convicted , teenagers that were convicted, um, of murdering brianna can indeed be named when they are sentenced in february . cory, sentenced in february. cory, now, the people that conducted this crime, there were 15 when they did it. so 16 now, um , do they did it. so 16 now, um, do you think it's the right decision by the judge, kelvin, to remove their anonymity? >> yes. i must say i'm delighted. and in some ways amazed that this has happened. and it just goes to show what a shocking murder this was , was. shocking murder this was, was. the truth about the matter is, i am often puzzled and amazed at why it is that the courts don't actually reveal the names of more of these teenagers , is the more of these teenagers, is the idea that the kids of today are the same as when this law was brought in, which was around
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about the late 40s early 50s. is ridicule bias. they are , uh, ridicule bias. they are, uh, often vile. they're often violent, and they are allowed then to wander around their neighbourhoods without anybody knowing anything about them . and knowing anything about them. and i think that that should stop . i i think that that should stop. i think that there should be an imperative within the court that if it if it's a serious enough crime, you get named as though you were an adult in a magistrates court or a crown. >> what stage? >> what stage? >> uh, pretty early on, actually , depending on what the depending on trial is ongoing. yeah. before when you are charged. when you are charged, if you're charged with abh, gbh or any of the other vile crimes which some of these youngsters are now charged with, right? they need to face this. and the local they need to know what what these people are that are wandering around . i mean, there wandering around. i mean, there are a lot of very violent crimes and i think if you had police officers, i'd be very grateful if some of them would write in
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to explain what what they have to explain what what they have to put up with in regard to those crimes. i'll come back to you on that in a sec. >> but, alan. >> but, alan. >> well, we have a principle of innocent until proven guilty. so if you start charging people and then announcing their names, uh, but announcing the but they're announcing the adults already adults are already the adaptation they've adaptation being that they've done so that's an done the crime. so that's an important precedent. but the question about age question about their age and about of their about the revelation of their name, we need to decide in britain at what point someone's an adult. if you can vote in scotland at 16, if we're saying that you can only go to war a certain age, you can go at 16, but you can only have a drink at 18. and if it is the case, as kelvin saying, that we think that people are adults, then you can war at 16. can go to war at 16. >> i think you join the >> i think you can join the junior leaders and you can go, yeah, i mean, but anyway but the point being, we can have that discussion. >> i think in a way, young people are more immature sometimes, wouldn't make sometimes, but i wouldn't make generalities about things. i think of problems think one of the problems with making about making decisions about rulings and what should change in law and what we should change in law
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with horrendous crimes with the most horrendous crimes and really and this is a really, really disgusting, horrible and this is a really, really disgusisig, horrible and this is a really, really disgusis that horrible and this is a really, really disgusis that it horrible and this is a really, really disgusis that it doesn't'rible and this is a really, really disgusis that it doesn't tend to crime is that it doesn't tend to make for good law. generally, if we have a principle that you have anonymity up until a certain age and you're a minor, which they were 15, i haven't heard a conclusive argument as to why that would be of the pubuc to why that would be of the public benefit to release their names advance, if we names in advance, but if we decide a nation , you know, decide as a nation, you know, democratically what we think is that it should be much younger and should be held and people should be held responsible we responsible as adults, then we have apply that to all have to apply that to all things, not just this. >> the criminal age of >> well, the criminal age of responsibility england and responsibility in england and wales, is ten years wales, of course, is ten years old, it? old, isn't it? >> do you hope to gain >> what do you hope to gain then? what do you think is gained, ed, from the anonymity of of these people? of being lifted of these people? >> i think it's crime . i >> well, i think it's a crime. i think a crime which could think it's a crime which could be equated any crime. be equated with any adult crime. right | be equated with any adult crime. right i mean, this was if you if you saw this as a netflix crime drama, you would not believe it was a 15 year olds could actually dream up stabbing to
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death a perfectly innocent young man, young person , uh, at 28 man, young person, uh, at 28 times or whatever it was. so i am in favour of them being treated in exactly the same way as they would be if they were deemed to be adult. i am in favour of that law being changed for other for other crimes . for other for other crimes. would you be not just for then of like for example, uh, that so—called john venables guy that's going through , uh, the that's going through, uh, the parole system and all the rest of it? >> james bulger's killers, do you think he should? because he's got, of course, a whole different identity. i think he's on a second third one on about a second or third one or you think people or summer. do you think people like him? >> i'm not. >> i'm not. >> i'm not in favour of them. given other identities. this is something should carry something which should carry with rest their with them for the rest of their lives. nobody argue with lives. and nobody can argue with this crime that this particular crime that people shouldn't be able to. i don't know how long they're going to get. suspect they're going to get. i suspect they're going to get. i suspect they're going to get. i suspect they're going to something like going to get something like 2020, or something 2020, 25 years or something like that of that time, i that at the end of that time, i still want to know that it is that that's walking down
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that person that's walking down my high street. yeah well, i mean, know, don't mean to mean, you know, i don't mean to be don't know how long you're be i don't know how long you're going but the probably going to live, but the probably work suggesting you suggest work you suggesting you suggest now be around in 25 years? >> no, no, no, in a word, yes. >> um, but no, my point is, though, that these people are going to be locked away for a very time and i'll tell very long time and i'll tell you, people that i feel you, the people that i feel sorry for in of this, sorry for in all of this, because these these teenagers, right, prison, they, our right, in this prison, they, our fellow inmates are to fellow inmates are going to know. know that know. they're going to know that this this is the, uh, the this is the this is the, uh, the guy that did this. this is the girl that did this that is going to be out in that prison. so those life be those guys, their life will be impacted. imagine those impacted. i would imagine those those inmates will also know the people innocent in this people that are innocent in this is so the is their parents. so the killers, uh, parents, all of a sudden, those innocent people, killers, uh, parents, all of a sud
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think there is an argument to be made that there are more violent and terrible narcissistic , and terrible narcissistic, horrendous crimes. we certainly have seen them with knives and other things, with young people. i think there are many reasons for that, and there are ways that that that we should approach that as a society. the a society. i think the glorification of violence, of nihilism, not believing in values and principles, perhaps things like military service or certainly doing things for the community, all things that could, uh, bestow values which we've been really bad doing, we've been really bad at doing, giving of being we've been really bad at doing, givirof of being we've been really bad at doing, givirof something of being we've been really bad at doing, givirof something are of being we've been really bad at doing, givirof something are all being we've been really bad at doing, givirof something are all really part of something are all really important. however there there are no matter how strong are always no matter how strong are always no matter how strong a society is, people that do really horrendous things. the question is for minors, do we want to change the rule for everyone? as a consequence of it? i can't see the compelling evidence for it myself. >> well, are you calling a minor someone under the age of 18? >> well, 15, you know, someone who's under the age of 16. >> and do you agree with the age of criminal responsibility? >> being >> then in england, wales being ten? >> well, eh!!- mu saymat, ten? >> well, say that, but the >> well, they say that, but the thing is, there's different
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levels. >> it's ten. but then there's levels. >> there'sl. but then there's levels. >> there's 15. ut then there's levels. >> there's 15. theyzn there's levels. >> there's 15. theyzn titreated 13, there's 15. they are treated differently depending their differently depending on their actual age. >> do you think level >> but do you think that level of ten of that the point of ten of like that is the point where literally you as an individual, can held individual, you can be held criminally responsible because people and that people debate and dispute that that uh, thing, that was a strange, uh, thing, but i understand year but i understand what a ten year old to have moral old to be able to have moral reasoning about right and wrong. >> i, i, you know, many people, when they do when they're well, if you've got kids, if you've got kids, you know, you're ten years old, you know, don't you? >> your kids know right from wrong. well actually, they they know three. know it from about three. >> one of the things is it also depends what we're talking about. is about. these are this is a really horrific, terrible thing. let's things like let's take things like shoplifting or other things. right. infractions that right. minor infractions that actually when you're young you might silly because might do something silly because your ability to make rational decisions, to be influenced, to do all sorts of things, they're still in the process of developing their minds, being brought up to then hold them accountable in the same way that we'd hold an adult accountable. we in any other
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we don't do that in any other area, right? you say, oh, area, right? you don't say, oh, we on a date with we can go out on a date with them. you they can't make them. you can't. they can't make decisions like that. them. you can't. they can't make dec no,1s like that. them. you can't. they can't make dec no, because at. them. you can't. they can't make dec no, because that would be >> no, because that would be paedophilia would be illegal. >> that would be weird. but they're they they're still. yeah, but they still they're ten. if still know when they're ten. if you go to a shop or if you're 9 or 8 or whatever, you go to a shop and you nick something, you know that is wrong and you know that that is wrong and you probably have an probably should have an appreciation of what the law is and by that age. you tell and isn't by that age. you tell me what do you do, uh, me at home, what do you do, uh, make anonymity? i've got make to that anonymity? i've got a poll running on twitter. do you think that anyone, you ever think that anyone, any convicted should convicted criminals should be able and if able to remain anonymous? and if so, get touch and tell so, why get in touch and tell me. i can tell you. uh, as of about minutes ago, it was about ten minutes ago, it was about ten minutes ago, it was about 90% said no about 90% of you said no criminals shouldn't ever be anonymous. let's if that's, anonymous. let's see if that's, uh, change, uh, will change, shall we? before the program before the end of the program coming up after the break? uh, of the junior doctor of course, the junior doctor strikes you
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as well as a peaceful and prosperous new year. >> from our family to yours , we >> from our family to yours, we are proud to be your channel. >> merry christmas, happy christmas , merry christmas, christmas, merry christmas, happy christmas, merry christmas , merry christmas, merry christmas . christmas. >> here on gb news the people's channel. >> merry christmas . >> merry christmas. >> merry christmas. >> oh that's nice isn't it. merry christmas from all of us i like that, um , someone on like that, um, someone on twitter says michelle rhee. children knowing what's right and wrong. i've got to say, i've never heard such nonsense like that. what is coming out of the mouth on guy left? mouth on the guy to your left? what is he on? which left what planet is he on? which left my left screen left or what? you. this one. you need to let me know what? >> him. >> him. >> definitely him. but it is quite interesting though. that whole about whole conversation on um about when children, when when children are children, when they adults, under what they become adults, under what section often applies to what someone else says on twitter,
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naming these people doesn't really help anyone. we're talking, of course, about two teenagers. that have just teenagers. uh, that have just been told that they will have their anonymity, uh, lifted when they sentenced february. they get sentenced in february. naming these people doesn't really help anyone. they will basically just make life harder for prison staff, and it will just destroy, uh, the families of the killers if they are a direct threat to the community on release, then it should be managed . at that point, i think managed. at that point, i think that's quite interesting. so what think they what do you think that they should anonymous should just be anonymous throughout service, throughout their prison service, and get and then even when they get released then released among us, then name them, . i mean, don't mean them, then. i mean, i don't mean to i'm not sure how long they'd last in open society if they got named when they came out. let me know thoughts. do you, um, know your thoughts. do you, um, do care about protection do you care about the protection of criminals? because of convicted criminals? because we bulger's we talked about jamie bulger's killers saying whether or we talked about jamie bulger's killithey saying whether or we talked about jamie bulger's killithey should1g whether or we talked about jamie bulger's killithey should get,1ether or we talked about jamie bulger's killithey should get, um,r or not they should get, um, a different identity if they didn't, venables was didn't, if john venables was still john venables everyone didn't, if john venables was still tho ienables everyone didn't, if john venables was still tho he ables everyone didn't, if john venables was still tho he was, everyone didn't, if john venables was still tho he was, i'm everyone didn't, if john venables was still tho he was, i'm noteryone didn't, if john venables was still tho he was, i'm not suree didn't, if john venables was still tho he was, i'm not sure he knew who he was, i'm not sure he would very long on the streets. >> would that be a sadness? would it? >> oh, that's a no. um, i couldn't possibly, suggest
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couldn't possibly, um, suggest anything you anything like that. but you know, don't know. you can get know, i don't know. you can get in me about that. in touch with me about that. i've that poll uh, i've got that poll running. uh, no criminal, no matter how old. says should allowed to says ian should be allowed to remain anonymous. their photograph should be published in newspaper. if in every single newspaper. if jack if children jack jackie says if children commit adult then commit an adult crime, then absolutely be absolutely yes, they should be named. every criminal, no named. uh, every criminal, no matter what should be matter what age, should be named, john. and i tell named, says john. and i can tell you is echoed pretty you now that is echoed pretty much throughout almost everyone that's getting in touch. christine says if you're old enough kill someone, then enough to kill someone, then you're old to be named. you're old enough to be named. simple perhaps put simple as. perhaps she would put no on it at all. i'm no limits on it at all. i'm trying to find see if there's anybody, uh, that would think something is there anyone something else. is there anyone out thinks they out there that thinks that they should anonymous ? is should be, uh, anonymous? is anyone. should be, uh, anonymous? is anyone . are you out there? do anyone. are you out there? do you think that these convicted killers should be anonymous? and if so, get in touch and tell me why. because fascinated why. because i'd be fascinated to reasoning on that to hear your reasoning on that one. look, junior, doctors, one. but look, junior, doctors, of course, are still on strike. their day, we know their second day, we know the drill now, don't drill by now, don't we? ultimately what they is ultimately what they want is this i think this pay restoration. i think it's to 2008, which would
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it's back to 2008, which would be like a 35% pay be something like a 35% pay restoration asian. i've got to say this. stand off. uh, alan, it doesn't seem to be coming any further, really? to a resolution. victoria atkins. she's basically saying if you call off this strike, i'll come round the table. the bma basically saying , well, we're basically saying, well, we're not going to call off the strike until you give us a credible offer. there's all kinds of accusations thrown around accusations being thrown around about not people are about whether or not people are taking the doctors demands seriously, the seriously, whether or not the doctors being a little bit doctors are being a little bit too the top, are you too over the top, where are you on it? >> well, i think there's a few things. firstly, not things. firstly, this is not about saving nhs. this is a about saving the nhs. this is a question pay and the question about pay and the terms. the is not a deity. terms. the nhs is not a deity. it needs significant reorganisation. get rid of a lot of the, the fat at top of the, uh, the fat at the top and its ideological problems. it needs efficiency . i think needs efficiency. i think there's a lot of public sympathy for doctors and junior doctors to get more my personal to get more pay. my personal view get more view is everyone should get more pay- view is everyone should get more pay. we should get better pay. across britain the last three across britain in the last three decades, been sluggish and decades, we've been sluggish and inefficient. we should allow zombie and zombie companies to fail and doctors should be paid better.
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however that requires a plan that requires organisation. it requires commitment, and it also requires commitment, and it also requires management to be changed and efficiency front, you know , um, if your front key you know, um, if your front key worker , you should be supporting worker, you should be supporting that context. however there as well the unions are often using this as an attempt to attack the government. so you've got these two things going on. there's a question of pay in its own terms, and then it looks like in the election year coming up, you've got unions that are using this kind of be very this to kind of be very political and that's a problem as think the public get as well. i think the public get weary of that. and frankly, both sides need get together. sides need to get together. we've now got over 7 million people still, people waiting. still, as a consequence lockdown consequence of lockdown and covid, only nhs got and covid, only nhs we've got and the impacts to social care, which by the way, none of these people supported their colleagues when they talk about solidarity. very of them solidarity. very few of them supported they challenged solidarity. very few of them sup vaccine they challenged solidarity. very few of them sup vaccine mandate challenged solidarity. very few of them sup vaccine mandate and.lenged solidarity. very few of them sup vaccine mandate and all ged solidarity. very few of them sup vaccine mandate and all the the vaccine mandate and all the social care workers that were lost and other our peers, nurses and that challenged. and others that were challenged. >> well, um, and >> i remember it well, um, and actually, got to be said,
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actually, it's got to be said, matt neil, who's one of the key leaders if he's leaders here, tried to, if he's into solidarity, try to, uh, uh, have doctor malhotra, one of the country's leading cardiologist, that's, uh, penalised by the gmc because he said that he was spreading misinformation. >> surely the point >> now, surely the whole point about doctors and science is to have wide discussion and to have a wide discussion and to collaborate on that. so i think i'm very concerned that the actual issue of pay and conditions gets lost in a lot of the other arguments about save the other arguments about save the nhs and about the question of the government, you know, the tories and the unions and the pubuc tories and the unions and the public sector being very ideological. kelvin >> well, the truth about the matter is that they are the highest paid members of the pubuc highest paid members of the public sector. you start at around about 30 odd thousand and you go up as a junior doctor. the most ridiculous expression i think i've ever heard. and you go think i've ever heard. and you 9° up think i've ever heard. and you go up to kind of senior registrar to make about 100,000. >> yeah, they're not the most uh, what did you say the highest
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paid in the public sector? >> yeah, are. well, they >> yeah, they are. well, they are sector workers. they are public sector workers. they are public sector workers. they are as such. they have are treated as such. they have their own pay unit which decides it. i what find absolutely it. so i what i find absolutely reprehensible is that and i heard this argument put forward by somebody the other day that in fact, the whole point about trade unions is to inflict the biggest amount of pain in order to win the day. now, that's all right . you're on a train. and right. you're on a train. and honestly, i use i commute all the time and your train doesn't turn up. that's painful, right? when actually you are actually sentencing . and somebody with sentencing. and somebody with either cancer or some hip hip replacement or some issue to real pain and potentially death. so certainly a problem about the pain will continue longer than if the dispute didn't last. i do have a problem. i would ban people in their position from going on strike, and i would say to them, if you don't like it, please all stop working for the nhs. one of the issues is they sign a thing which says they're
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supposed to do no harm, right? actually, they should sign something promise you something saying i promise you i will do harm. this has been a shocking example and most of the people involved in it who are really leaders are really leaders of it, are actually first year students. it's actually where else would you start at 30,000 a year? not many places. i actually do not drop single tier for this drop one single tier for this lot , and actually clear lot, and i would actually clear them all out and say, go and do anotherjob, them all out and say, go and do another job, which doesn't involve trying to make trying to kill people rather than trying to save people's lives. >> i do, i do probably, i have to say, i do dispute that these people are the highest paid pubuc people are the highest paid public sector workers in this country. >> yeah, they are on that. but also, you know, if they're sitting here now, they will be saying , well, we don't feel that saying, well, we don't feel that we're getting a fair pay deal. we don't want to kill anyone, to quote your expression, expression, what we do expression, what we want to do is we want to be able to feel like we can remain in our employment and continue to save lives. >> $- $— y a friend of mine, >> a friend, a friend of mine, a friend of mine is a british
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airways pilot, right? >> he was telling me he's he's about about 55, 57 now. about i think about 55, 57 now. >> he was saying to me, he said, actually, when i came actually, he said when i came into game, said, senior into the game, he said, a senior boac pilot would earn more than the prime kind of the prime minister. kind of stuff. he said we were right at the top. he said we have gone down like that. that is what happensin down like that. that is what happens in journalism. for instance, i would hire, 35 instance, i would hire, say, 35 years i'd hire a junior years ago. i'd hire a junior reporter at 22,000 a year, right, 30 years later, they are still being hired at 22,000 a yeah still being hired at 22,000 a year. and this is the reality that things do change. i feel sorry , i feel sorry these people sorry, i feel sorry these people feel bad about it. they should have thought about that before they became doctors. >> but that's exactly the problem, though we don't pay enough got enough in britain, we've got a sluggish economy. to sluggish economy. we need to improve they will. many improve it. but they will. many have the public sector and have left the public sector and they've gone to the private sector. they've gone to other countries. problem in countries. we have a problem in britain. good in countries. we have a problem in brit sense good in countries. we have a problem in brit sense no, good in countries. we have a problem in brit sense no, i'm good in countries. we have a problem in brit sense no, i'm veryiood in countries. we have a problem in brit sense no, i'm very pleased the sense no, i'm very pleased if we are. i'm all up for a discussion to have a more european style health service. like you look at germany and
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like if you look at germany and france, private and france, they have private and they some public provision, they have some public provision, but need able to work but we need to be able to work out of training our own out ways of training our own citizens as as bringing out ways of training our own citize people as bringing out ways of training our own citize people in as bringing out ways of training our own citize people in there inging out ways of training our own citize people in there to, ng out ways of training our own citize people in there to, to, to good people in there to, to, to recruit the best and the brightest, have them just brightest, not have them just go. we spend the go. and we spend with the biggest the nhs go. and we spend with the biggwe the nhs go. and we spend with the biggwe spend the nhs go. and we spend with the biggwe spend so the nhs go. and we spend with the biggwe spend so much the nhs go. and we spend with the biggwe spend so much money.5 go. and we spend with the biggwe spend so much money. it's and we spend so much money. it's inefficient. we should get it organised, it should done organised, it should be done diligently, organised, it should be done diligeitheir hands up just throw their hands up and just look at component of it. look at one component of it. >> yeah, and you say it's good if these people leave. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> that's great because >> and that's great because i don't want these people. >> i do not want these people looking mum, i you looking after my mum, i tell you that. >> e- e— that. >> you if you suddenly >> but if you if you suddenly drop down you know, and drop down now, you know, and have a heart attack, well, i think, but you think it's think, but you won't think it's good you get to a hospital. good if you get to a hospital. if these people, if these people want michelle, these people want michelle, if these people want more money, there's a simple right? simple solution, right? >> do is they >> what they should do is they should go into the private sector. we should start having private hospitals. work for. >> no. hold on. for. >> onceiold on. for. >> once you on. for. >> once you work for a monopoly, once you work for a monopoly and you have a trade union representing you are only you have a trade union repreof nting you are only you have a trade union repreof a ing you are only you have a trade union repreof a mass you are only you have a trade union repreof a mass right? are only you have a trade union repreof a mass right? you only you have a trade union repreof a mass right? you are/ part of a mass right? you are not individual. and i am in
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not an individual. and i am in favour individuals. favour of individuals. >> going to move in to >> i'm going to move in to kelvin so on your kelvin island. so i'm on your island with now and i'm island with you now and i'm going with your going along with your suggestions. all these suggestions. now. all these people nhs and now people have quit the nhs and now this now is literally this nhs now is literally depleted of doctors. this nhs now is literally depl'm�*d of doctors. this nhs now is literally depl'm going octors. this nhs now is literally depl'm goingoctors. who? >> i'm going to quit. who? >> i'm going to quit. who? >> these great jobs. >> these are great jobs. >> these are great jobs. >> who then cares for the patients. then if everyone in your world and they're your world has gone and they're not going to quit, not all going to quit, i'm inviting quit. inviting them to quit. >> and were percentage of >> and there were percentage of them most of them will them will go. most of them will stay, they enjoy their work stay, and they enjoy their work and pay. and actually enjoy their pay. they whole load of they have got a whole load of lefties have got involved now and actually are putting your your parents, your your parents, my parents, even sword. even me to the sword. >> what do you make to it >> well what do you make to it at home? >> you're very important to the conversation. you have the final saying, get in with me and saying, get in touch with me and tell who you agree with? tell me who do you agree with? or got completely or have you got a completely different view? vaiews@gbnews.com. different view? va into @gbnews.com. different view? va into @gb conversation. uh, you into the conversation. uh, after break, the after the break, right at the start of the program, i got a message from richard basically telling to off my high telling me to get off my high horse, michelle, was horse, michelle, and he was talking. i wasn't minded , but at talking. i wasn't minded, but at that point in the it was that point in the show, it was right. i'd not even mounted the
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high was talking high horse yet. he was talking about next story i'm about my next story because i'm asking think the asking you, do you think the police should be able to run facial recognition searches basically on your driver's license you care or license database? do you care or not? you in two.
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>> you're listening to gb news radio . hello everyone. radio. hello everyone. >> i'm michelle dewberry keeping you company till seven. the former editor of the sun, kelvin mackenzie, alongside me and the co—founder of together campaign, alan lots of you guys alan miller. lots of you guys have been getting in touch on that junior doctors, uh, conversation we've just been having. nigel says stacked having. nigel says i stacked shelves and shelves for morrisons and i earned more than £14 an hour, and got any university and i've not got any university debt. should not end debt. doctors should not end £40, £14 an hour. it is disgraceful to expect to do disgraceful to expect them to do so. matthew says. i wouldn't want through of that want to go through all of that training be on £14 an hour. training to be on £14 an hour. you'll remember you'll be familiar poster when familiar with that poster when there was basically saying a barista and i think it was pret a manger and whatever, it was,
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the £14. but do have to carry the £14. but i do have to carry out this because that out all of this because that £14, i recall, that just £14, as i recall, that was just a pay. when you actually a basic pay. when you actually add in all of the extras, the overtimes, night allowances overtimes, the night allowances and rest of it, the dirt and all the rest of it, the dirt and all the rest of it, the dirt and £14. so i do concede i would like to earn more than what like them to earn more than what they do. julia says i they currently do. julia says i will support doctors or will never support doctors or nurses they nurses striking at all. they should grievance rs should take their grievance rs out the government. basically out on the government. basically and not out on the sick and the needy. they should be ashamed of themselves , says julia. really themselves, says julia. really divided opinions. annie says. i've never supported the junior doctors. they're in the wrong jobsif doctors. they're in the wrong jobs if they think it's right. um, basically , to leave um, basically, to leave the bedsides of the sick and the operating theatres, etc. uh, chrissy says no, i think they've been cruel. 35% is too much to ask. she says it is political. and i'll tell you what as well, we was just talking about anonymity with children and whether or not criminals should be i'll quickly tell you be named. i'll quickly tell you this move on, gladys this before we move on, gladys says. had two grand children, says. we had two grand children, twins says were very twins. she says they were very naughty, into trouble, naughty, getting into trouble, stealing, etc. they asbos at
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stealing, etc. they got asbos at 12 age long story 12 years of age long story short, she says their names were in all the papers and all the media. she but it media. um she says, but it didn't do any good all didn't do any good at all because basically all of because basically it made all of their friends think they were great, almost give them celebrity, kind of status . celebrity, uh, kind of status. as pam says, i worked in a school with children with problems. one child told me he happily helped his cousin break problems. one child told me he hapjpropertyzd his cousin break problems. one child told me he hapjproperty because jsin break problems. one child told me he hapjproperty because her break problems. one child told me he hapjproperty because he was ak into property because he was small and he could get through the when i asked him, the windows when i asked him, don't getting in don't you care about getting in trouble his trouble with the police? his answer because he was answer was that because he was under he knew that the under ten, he knew that the police could never really do anything well, anything about it. blimey well, there you go. uh, a clause in a new criminal justice bill could essentially give police the power to run facial recognition searches. get this on. 50 million driving licence holders . million driving licence holders. now, this i can tell you, right. splits opinion. some will say this is a breach of privacy. others will say so what? where are you? kelvin >> uh, well, i don't i don't care for um, it you know, the only people that are going to worry about this, apart from
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people who probably receive charity fee handouts in some way in order to progress their argument, are people who are have some sort of crime which is going to be exposed. thanks to thanks to the police managing to do something which is very difficult these days, which is actually to arrest somebody , um, actually to arrest somebody, um, who has done something wrong and who has done something wrong and who doesn't wish to be found. so i am i'm delighted with this idea and it will lead, i hope, to a lot of people who have done something wrong, being charged and convicted . so and i can't, and convicted. so and i can't, i can't quite understand where the problem is. >> if you haven't done anything wrong, i'm sure alan's about to tell you. >> well, it's interesting, isn't it? because the criminal justice bill, we see more and more legislation to have surveillance on all which effectively on all of us, which effectively says that we're all potential criminals, 50 million people, all surveyed consistently. there's privacy question and there's a privacy question and a free society . we've also just free society. we've also just been through the lockdowns and
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for the last three years, seeing that there's been spies on citizens, on doctors , on citizens, on doctors, on journalists, we've had the dcms and we've had the rapid response unit. we've all sorts of unit. we've had all sorts of censorship and impositions, and we've seen that both with the state and with private companies as we also see now that we as so we also see now that we have roads closed with low traffic neighbourhoods and low emission zones and surveillance with cameras and others. so we have a situation broadly and people going on protests and then increasing rules and then ever increasing rules and restrictions in a country where we should be upholding freedom more now than ever. if you look at some of the things that are happening around the world, our, uh, benefits of the enlightenment last 300 enlightenment of the last 300 years rights to free years of the rights to free expression, privacy, to expression, to privacy, to protest. yet it seems like protest. and yet it seems like the only response always is a blunt tool of more surveillance , blunt tool of more surveillance, more treating all citizens as though they've done something wrong, and the idea that no one's got anything to worry about. if you haven't done anything wrong, it's just not doesn't thrash out because of all i've made. all the points i've just made. but whole that are
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but the whole idea that you are constantly , uh, images constantly taking, uh, images from people on social media and elsewhere, i think it's egregious. it's very problematic. and it goes along the of digital id being the lines of digital id being attempted to be brought in as well, which is often been argued against by british against by the british population. seen it happen population. we've seen it happen in now it's problem. we in europe now it's a problem. we shouldn't it. shouldn't have it. >> stabbed your child >> if someone stabbed your child to death. and i hope obviously it never happens police it never happens and the police had some kind of grainy cctv image and, you know, public appeal. do you know this person? absolutely failed. if there was an opportunity for them to run that image through a database, i.e. the driving license database, and it led to an identification of your child's killer would you still have your view or would you just be pleased? >> this is what happens, right? we do these things like the previous section, and you take one of the most horrendous things and you ask if someone the reason why we have, um, juries because an juries is not because an individual will an eye for an individual will do an eye for an eye. you me what i would eye. if you ask me what i would think a very particular
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think in a very particular circumstance. you get circumstance. that's why you get juries who have not been affected by things. >> would >> i'm asking you, would you not want killer chance want your killer the chance killer to be identified? >> i understand what you're asking me, michel, the point asking me, michel, but the point about and others about having juries and others is might do all the is that i might do all the person might get to the jury. >> you couldn't >> allen, if you couldn't identify them in first identify them in the first place, might all sorts of place, i might do all sorts of things those circumstance cgses. >> cases. >> would that be the morally right to is that the right thing to do? is that the legal, sensible thing for society? >> you're missing point. >> no, you're missing my point. >> no, you're missing my point. >> you what you >> i'm not asking you what you would to that person. would do to that person. >> no, no, no, no, know >> no, no, no, no, i know in order to asking would order to bring asking would i want to use the database to get what i want to use every means at mechanism do it? at my mechanism to do it? >> and was an individual as an individual, i'd want individual, i'm sure i'd want to do i possibly do everything i possibly could. like. i might want to dispense with jury in my individual with a jury in my own individual set of circumstances. i might want just get that guy or want to just get that guy or woman whoever have something want to just get that guy or woman done oever have something want to just get that guy or woman done oeithemje something want to just get that guy or woman done oeithem. but»mething terrible done to them. but that's we laws. that's that's why we have laws. that's why we're a civilised society. that's have protections why we're a civilised society. thecitizens. have protections why we're a civilised society. thecitizens. that'sa protections why we're a civilised society. thecitizens. that'sa prowe'vels for citizens. that's why we've gotideas for citizens. that's why we've got ideas of privacy and freedom of and we don't allow of expression and we don't allow constant or we
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constant surveillance or else we end china end up getting into a china situation where this situation where where this facial technology actually has come they're come from, where they're constantly monitoring their citizens. have a social citizens. and we have a social credit system. citizens. and we have a social cre what would you prioritise the most ? privacy. an individual's most? privacy. an individual's privacy? don't store people's photos. or would you like to see this kind of scenario where you're cctv imagery is ran among a database? i've got to say the home office have said the following clause 21 of the criminal does not criminal justice bill does not allow access to allow for automatic access to dvla facial dvla records for facial recognition. any further developments be subject to developments would be subject to further engagement as the public would do you make would expect. what do you make to that ? let's talk, shall we? to that? let's talk, shall we? after break about working after the break about working class white males, do you think we need to do more to support that group? i do tell me your thoughts .
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for them. hi there michelle dewberry with you till 7:00. former editor of the sun, kelvin mackenzie and co—founder together campaign, alan miller. we ended into that break with them disagreeing on whether or not this whole, database of not this whole, uh, database of driving being checked driving licenses being checked with images was a good with cctv images was a good thing. they carried on the conversation the break, i conversation in the break, and i think even managed to think alan even managed to convey a little bit. convey to me a little bit. >> well, i liked his argument that, fact, nobody that, in fact, in fact, nobody will police officer will turn, no police officer will turn, no police officer will turn, no police officer will turn out for a burglary. but with the hate crime , there but with the hate crime, there will be there at a thousand miles an hour and i think alan was concerned that that instead of dealing with the laws that we have today, the answer always is let's it. in this case, let's widen it. in this case, let's widen it. in this case, let's widen it to, um, to more video coverage. >> well, there you go. >> well, there you go. >> conrad says the police need all the help available they can get you. >> so you can have my image any time you want it, he says. i've got absolutely nothing to hide. sheila says, why would you object? i'd etc. is way object? um, i'd etc. is the way forward says, forward because sadly, she says, we're civilised
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we're no longer a civilised society . um, alison says this society. um, alison says this would be great if everyone has a driving license, but they don't. so therefore that particular group perhaps would be treated on uh, richard, the guy on fairly. uh, richard, the guy that told me how to get off my high horse earlier on, he was saying use facial saying the use of facial recognition drivers a recognition for drivers is a good he goes on to tell good thing. he goes on to tell me story his son. uh, me a story about his son. uh, was done for speeding. he would never have believed his son was speeding, until saw speeding, he said, until he saw the with his eyes. the picture with his own eyes. so there anyway, look at so there you go. anyway, look at the the program. i was the start of the program. i was asking you, do you think convicted criminals should ever have say have anonymity? i've got to say that budge that paul didn't really budge much last half an hour much over the last half an hour or so, because 92.3% of you said a fat no to that, and 7.7% a big, fat no to that, and 7.7% of you said yes. uh, there you go. the university of go. right. the university of bradford has announced a scholarship scheme now. help scholarship scheme now. so help attract white attract working class white males . apparently that group males. apparently that group only represents about 1.7% of student s. there i've got to say, i thought it was quite good, actually, to see a positive initiative going on for white working class men, because
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that group of society seems to get blamed for so many of society's ills. um, anyway, do you back this scheme? >> um, well , i you back this scheme? >> um, well, i think there's two questions. first of all, i'm surprised that there are even 1.7% white males in bradford . 1.7% white males in bradford. anybody who knows bradford knows what the what the makeup of the of the students are in bradford. it's a very asian area and as you might expect with the with it being so expensive to house people, they're likely to want to stay at home. and therefore you're going to find that. secondly, i always feel uneasy about trying trying to identify white black, brown men. i immediately you get an uneasy feeling that race is coming into it. i suspect this is just a pr exercise himars by a clapped out university that is trying to actually gain some, uh, gain some coverage in whether it's gb news or it's or it's in the or it's in the media coverage that
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it's in the media coverage that it got this morning . it's in the media coverage that it got this morning. um, i'm not in favour of it. and if people if white working class males want to go to university, they certainly have the opportunity to go to the universities as long as they choose the right subjects. i mean, one of the bigger issues in our country, right now is that we've got too many people doing arts degrees and people, except and not enough people, except for foreign students doing engineering computers and things, which will give them work when they out of their work when they come out of their degrees . degrees. >> well, there you go. by the way, 80% bradford residents, way, 80% of bradford residents, according last census, according to the last census, apparently england . alan. >> yeah, well, i think there's a number of issues with this. >> the first thing is it is true that white working class boys and men have done significantly less well in a range of areas. i think we got to take a step back and at all of our issues of and look at all of our issues of questions, integration, questions, of integration, open questions, of integration, open question values and education question of values and education and is it for? what's the and what is it for? what's the university for now? tony blair, in his esteemed wisdom, decided that we should have 50% of people going to university . what people going to university. what for? the standard of
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for? firstly, the standard of university went down. second, lee, why does everyone or so many people have to go to university? and then if you haven't got university degree, haven't got a university degree, somehow problem somehow you've got this problem actually, need is really actually, what we need is really good apprenticeships. need good apprenticeships. we need builders, farmers, we builders, we need farmers, we need engineers, and need need engineers, and we need people to university. people to go to university. a good quality education. i'm good quality education. but i'm concerned this idea that concerned about this idea that in america was called positive discrimination. you start discrimination. when you start demarcating people around identity , we we're increasingly identity, we we're increasingly separating people. we're encouraging them to identify based on pigmentation in britain, the great expert that it is, we have, uh , done really it is, we have, uh, done really well in many instances at bringing lots of people together under certain ideas. now we're failing increasingly at that. right, because what we're doing is we're talking about difference . what separates us, difference. what separates us, identity rather than the values that unite us rather than principles around the really important values of what it means to be british. people get all embarrassed about what that means. the enlightenment and commerce all the things that
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were brought to the world in terms of rules of law, brilliant things. and now we say, oh, it was rape and pillage was all just rape and pillage and everything's terrible. and in , we should in that context, we should provide situation where we provide a situation where we have education have better education for everyone that's primary and everyone that's at primary and secondary school and universities, and not that 50% have to go, but actually a section do . uh, and then what we section do. uh, and then what we have is apprenticeships and others interestingly. right now both men and women obviously work and they all go out and families if they are together are less well off than 30 years ago when there was one breadwinner. right. so we have to resolve all these things. that's about the economy. that's partly about the economy. that's partly about the economy. that's about education. that's partly about the economy. tha'and about education. that's partly about the economy. tha'and so about education. that's partly about the economy. tha'and so that'srt education. that's partly about the economy. tha'and so that's theiucation. that's partly about the economy. tha'and so that's the context. that's partly about the economy. tha'and so that's the context . i uh, and so that's the context. i look this one the look at this in one of the things that found fascinating things that i found fascinating as well is about the snobbery, uh, that surrounds whole uh, that surrounds the whole kind manual jobs these days. >> the apprenticeships. i wonder why even is that still a thing? i've got to tell you , um, lots i've got to tell you, um, lots of people. surprisingly you're getting in touch with me saying that you wouldn't even mind having id card in this day and
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age , i can tell you there's age, i can tell you there's a whole conversation that we could have about that one. perhaps we'll have that for another day. i can tell you now, alan, uh, i'm suggesting i'm almost certain would be completely against we'll perhaps certain would be completely againto we'll perhaps certain would be completely aga into that we'll perhaps certain would be completely againto that another. perhaps certain would be completely againto that another night. ps certain would be completely againto that another night. but get into that another night. but for now , alan miller, you for now, alan miller, thank you very much . thank you for your very much. thank you for your company. yes . very much. thank you for your company. yes. mary, he's company. oh, yes. mary, he's given a card. he's giving me given me a card. he's giving me a as well. um a christmas card as well. um that's very, very rare . i don't that's very, very rare. i don't know, i haven't i haven't got one though. >> i didn't a christmas card. >> no, i tell you what, i'm still. i'm still. i've bribed the postman , but. or post person the postman, but. or post person and, uh, they haven't delivered your card to me either. >> oh. >> oh. >> did you notice it got politically correct that i waited full hour? got waited the full hour? we got there end he said, post there in the end he said, post person. oh, thought i'd person. oh, i never thought i'd see day and i need to go for see the day and i need to go for a lay down now. that's all i've got time for. nigel farage up next night's outlook next night's a brighter outlook with boxt solar, the sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> hello. very good evening to you. i'm alex burkill here with
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your latest gb news weather forecast. whilst there may be a bit of hill snow across northern parts through the next 24 hours or so, it's a milder story elsewhere and we do still have some winds and some rain some strong winds and some rain around, though deep around, even though the deep area we saw area of low pressure we saw earlier has now cleared area of low pressure we saw earlietowardshas now cleared area of low pressure we saw earlietowards the now cleared area of low pressure we saw earlietowards the east. leared area of low pressure we saw earlietowards the east. so red area of low pressure we saw earlietowards the east. so ad away towards the east. so a blustery picture as we go through this evening and overnight, some outbreaks of rain quite likely. hill snow is overnight, some outbreaks of rai|issuee likely. hill snow is overnight, some outbreaks of rai|issue across'. hill snow is overnight, some outbreaks of rai|issue across some snow is overnight, some outbreaks of rai|issue across some northern an issue across some northern parts, particularly for shetland . here we could see something of an risk as go through the an ice risk as we go through the night into friday morning. and for turning increasingly for many, turning increasingly cloudy overnight. and with those blustery , temperatures not blustery winds, temperatures not dropping some places in dropping much, some places in the south double the south staying in double figures chillier further north across scotland . could across parts of scotland. could be touch of frost first be a touch of frost here first thing friday morning. thing on friday morning. otherwise through the otherwise though, through the day going to be largely day it is going to be largely cloudy for many us. there cloudy for many of us. there will further outbreaks cloudy for many of us. there will it further outbreaks cloudy for many of us. there will it fugoing)utbreaks cloudy for many of us. there will it fugoing)ut beaks cloudy for many of us. there will it fugoing)ut be blustery rain. it is going to be blustery at and some more snow, at times and some more snow, perhaps some ice is likely across parts of scotland to some brighter developing in brighter breaks developing in the and here it's the southwest. and here it's still relatively still going to be relatively mild, albeit temperatures a little bit down compared to
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today. look towards today. as we look towards saturday. and it's a wet picture across northern areas, across many northern areas, particularly western particularly scotland, western parts likely to see some heavy rainfall totals building a rainfall totals building up a bit snow around again, bit more snow around again, bringing risk some bringing the risk of some icy patches picture patches to a drier picture further south. but quite a cloudy one with a few spots of rain possible. that rain then does gradually make its way southwards as we go through christmas eventually christmas eve, eventually clearing through we go into clearing through as we go into christmas by then looks christmas day. by then looks like things are heating up boxt boilers as sponsors of weather on .
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>> christmas special. live from birmingham. please welcome your host, nick st giles' farage. >> evening everybody. i'm here live in birmingham with an audience. they're wildly enthusiastic . enthusiastic. >> we're going to have a great show . we'll talk local show. we'll talk local birmingham . politics we're going birmingham. politics we're going to give out some christmas pnzes to give out some christmas prizes to people have done great work the community and we're work in the community and we're going to have local lads. roy woods, legendary figure whose woods, a legendary figure whose record 50 ago i wish he record 50 years ago i wish he could be christmas every day and he'll be on that stage with his band playing it later. >> for of that comes after >> for all of that comes after the . news the. news >> nigel. thank you. good evening. i'm sam francis in the gb newsroom. the headlines at seven emergency services in prague say more than 14 people have been killed in a mass shooting at a prague university. dozens more are wounded . the
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