>> well. >> well. >> hello! >> hello! >> happy saturday! >> happy saturday! >> welcome to gb news on your saturday lunchtime. >> i'm dawn neesom and for the next three hours i'll be keeping you company on tv , online and on you company on tv, online and on digital radio, keeping you up to date on the stories that really matter to because you're the matter to you because you're the important coming this important ones coming up this houn important ones coming up this hour. united has hour. now, the united states has launched attacks on houthi launched fresh attacks on houthi rebels yemen as the rebels rebels in yemen as the rebels vow the us and uk strikes will not go without punishment or retaliation . what does this mean retaliation. what does this mean for the destabilised nation of the region, though? then the met police say around 1700 officers will be on duty to police the march for palestine today, the government's independent adviser on political violence and disruption , says march is disruption, says march is calling for a jihad and should be arrested . will we see any be arrested. will we see any troubles in the capital, though such a volatile time, isn't it ? such a volatile time, isn't it? and we'll be bringing you the very latest on the post office scandal as we interview postmistress, who's putting and plotting an election challenge

to sir ed davey. but the plotting an election challenge to sir ed davey . but the show to sir ed davey. but the show is nothing without you and your views. not about me, not about my brilliant guests . it's all my brilliant guests. it's all about let me know your about you. so let me know your thoughts stories thoughts on all of the stories we'll discussing today. thoughts on all of the stories we'll discussing today . email we'll be discussing today. email me gbviews@gbnews.com or me on gbviews@gbnews.com or message me on our socials. really simple at gb news. but first let's catch up with the news headlines with aaron armstrong . armstrong. >> good afternoon. it's a minute past 12. i'm aaron armstrong, the united states has carried out a new attack against houthi rebels in yemen . it comes a day rebels in yemen. it comes a day after britain and the us launched dozens of strikes on the iran backed group's positions , as the houthis have positions, as the houthis have vowed to continue targeting ships in the red sea, though to show their support for palestinians in gaza. defence secretary grant shapps has warned iran to ensure its proxies cease and desist because in his words, the world is

running out of patience. military analyst sean bell says america's strike was strategic, focusing on a specific site . focusing on a specific site. >> the us unilaterally did the strike last night. it's either that following yesterday , the that following yesterday, the houthis launched another missile almost as a an act of petulance, and it looks either in response to that, the us has struck this radar site or after the strikes on thursday night, battle damage assessment, they will have looked and said , ah, one of the looked and said, ah, one of the radar sites is still survive the attack and therefore they decided to use uss carney to use another tomahawk missile to actually take it out. it does seem be a very surgical, seem to be a very surgical, measured and it is measured response and it is a unilateral response. last night, sir ed davey , sorry, a former sir ed davey, sorry, a former postmistress who used to stand against sir ed davey at the next general election, says he must be to justice and the be brought to justice and the lib dem leader was the postal affairs during the affairs minister during the honzon affairs minister during the horizon scandal. horizon it scandal. >> he's refused to apologise >> but he's refused to apologise to victims or take

to the victims or take accountability. hundreds of staff were wrongly prosecuted after software led to after faulty software led to shortfalls in some postmasters accounts. sir ed says he was lied to by the post office on an industrial scale, but yvonne tracy, who's running as an mp for kingston and surbiton, says the agency needs someone with integrity . integrity. >> i would have loved it if we could have got a subpostmaster who'd been affected by this to stand against ed davey, but i can understand that probably their confidence is not, and they probably are fed up to death with the government , etc. death with the government, etc. so i thought it's going to be me. i'm reluctantly doing it, but i feel i have to do something and this is all i can do. i think he should be brought to account . to account. >> meanwhile, tax experts say the post office could be facing insolvency for failing to pay up to £100 million in tax. they say the company claimed £934 million of tax relief on compensation paid to branch managers caught up in the scandal. a tax policy associates, a non—profit organisation , nation, has

organisation, nation, has described the practice as outrageous and potentially unlawful. the post office, though, says its financial information is appropriate and accurate. lawyer nigel hugill represented some of the postmasters . postmasters. >> we've got an it system that clearly was flawed, but people made decisions on the back of that, so those people need to be held to account. i think we've seen some people come out this week, some profile week, some high profile individuals expressed regret in some , apologised, you some instances, apologised, you know, gestures around handing back honours . i think the back honours. i think the feeling within the people that i speak to is some of this is rather late in the day. it's forced . forced. >> the first channel migrants of the year have arrived in dover border force intercepted a vessel carrying around 50 people this morning. it's the first small boat crossing since the 16th of december. the longest penod 16th of december. the longest period without any migrant arrivals for almost four years. it's thought bad weather has deterred more people from making the journey a huge the dangerous journey a huge police presence is expected

later, with pro—palestine protesters set to march through central london. they're warning demonstrators ours will face arrest if they intentionally push the limit on placards and slogans. thousands are expected to gather around lunchtime time shortly as part of a global day of action for palestinians . the of action for palestinians. the met police says forces from outside the capital will also be on duty , and parts of the uk can on duty, and parts of the uk can expect more snow and subzero temperatures this weekend . the temperatures this weekend. the met office has issued yellow warnings for much of the north of scotland. that's from midnight until monday , when midnight until monday, when temperatures could drop as low as minus five degrees. that could cause some disruption to travel both on the roads, roads and railways. snow is also set to hit northern ireland on monday . we're live across the uk monday. we're live across the uk on tv, on digital radio. if you want us on your smart speaker, you just say play news. you just say play gb news. that's now it's over to dawn i >> -- >> thank 5mm >> thank you very much , aaron.

>> thank you very much, aaron. now let's get straight into today's story, shall we? um, overnight, the united states launched fresh strikes against a houthi radar site in yemen following a joint operation between the uk and the us. yesterday nearly 30 houthi positions were targeted during the first wave of strikes in a statement, the houthis supreme political council has vowed to retaliate, threatening the all american and british interests have become legitimate targets for the yemeni armed forces in yemen's capital of sanaa, tens of thousands have joined a military parade and protest in support of gaza. lot to deal with here, isn't there? joining me now in the studio is former head of counter—terrorism at the mod, major chip chapman. um, chip , if i can mod, major chip chapman. um, chip, if i can call you that. thank you very much for joining us this afternoon. i'm glad to have someone expertise have someone of your expertise and background on this one, because frankly, i think most of us find this development

absolutely terrifying. can you just bring us up to speed on the developments that happened last night? >> well, what i think happened last night was actually probably a rear attack an original a rear attack on an original target, which, as sean bell said earlier on, you do battlefield damage assessment. >> they probably didn't knock that target out first time. and went and reattached it to make sure and ears sure that the eyes and ears of the of the houthis is the targeting of the houthis is degraded in a certain aspect. what is important, though, is that more important, what is important, though, is that more important , there was that more important, there was another missile launched by the houthis, which was the 28th attack since . the 19th of attack since. the 19th of november. and of course, the original attack plays into deterrence theory, that is, deterrence theory, that is, deterrence by punishment . but deterrence by punishment. but try and alter the risk reward calculus of the houthis . so it's calculus of the houthis. so it's really seeing if that carries on into the future. will they re—attack again? that's a houthis . how re—attack again? that's a houthis. how do you get out of this conundrum now? one of the ways you might get out of it is, of course, although the houthis are part of the axis of resistance in terms of the surrounding israel, as it were,

one of the proxy forces of iran , one of the proxy forces of iran, they're also guided in a way by iran and therefore iran and its relationship with china. and russia is important in terms of the chinese want global trade to flow, and they could have leverage over the iranians to say , enough is enough, please say, enough is enough, please rein in the houthis. so there's a lot out there, both in the diplomatic and military spheres for the future. it was the chinese that brokered peace chinese that brokered the peace deal , such as chinese that brokered the peace deal, such as it is chinese that brokered the peace deal , such as it is between deal, such as it is between saudi arabia and iran. >> now, that looks likely that that's not going to hold out much longer well. much longer as well. >> that's an interesting one, because back in the peace because back in march, the peace deal , as you because back in march, the peace deal, as you call it, because back in march, the peace deal , as you call it, between deal, as you call it, between the saudis and iranians, was really embassies really reopening of embassies and things that . at that and things like that. at that time, we were talking or people analysts were talking about a post us middle east. now the events of the last three months have absolutely shown that there isn't a post middle east, us, middle east and that the us is still massively engaged. there

because of what's happening. it's events , dear boy, as they it's events, dear boy, as they always say, and interestingly, last night the houthi missile, it did fall short. >> thankfully, but it was on a panama flagged tanker carrying russian oil . so this is just russian oil. so this is just gets worse. everything you read, um, do you think , though, that um, do you think, though, that the latest developments will increase the terror threat? i know it's like, well, what about us over here? but we'll increase the terror threat in this country. >> it's a tricky one to answer that. >> for this reason , in most of >> for this reason, in most of the terrorism in the uk and europe is, um, salafist jihadist , that is sunni terrorism . and , that is sunni terrorism. and thatis , that is sunni terrorism. and that is indeed the definition by europol that it is sunni revivalism. the um, houthis are actually zaydi shia not generally involved in terrorism . generally involved in terrorism. that doesn't mean that the shia can't be suicide bombers . that doesn't mean that the shia can't be suicide bombers. um, some of them are, um, but but it's not really a connection between the two. and that is one of the fractures. again that you see in the middle east. the shia sunni split, which most people

would say dated from 1979 and the revolution there, both in iran and the storming of the grand mosque in saudi arabia. so as a potential there is a yemeni diaspora . but there's a diaspora. but there's a difference between, um , difference between, um, radicalisation and having a grievance. you need an ideology and a grievance. and the shia don't really have an ideology in the same way that the sunnis do in of al—qaeda and the in terms of al—qaeda and the islamic state. >> it's incredibly concrete. chip, you're staying with us throughout the show to bring us up to date, should anything hopefully will happen. hopefully nothing will happen. um, but to explain bit further um, but to explain a bit further about going and about what is going on and what's game here, what's the end game here, i think that's the question which will coming up soon. will be covering coming up soon. um, now for all the best analysis and opinion on that story and much, much more, go to our website, gb news.com . now on our website, gb news.com. now on a linked subject, the national march for palestine has taken to the streets of london today again calling for a permanent ceasefire in the israel—hamas

conflict affecting the gaza strip . joining conflict affecting the gaza strip .joining me now conflict affecting the gaza strip . joining me now live from strip. joining me now live from the protest is our london reporter, lisa hartle. lisa, there you are . thank you very there you are. thank you very much for joining there you are. thank you very much forjoining us this much for joining us this afternoon. lisa, can you tell us where you are and what's going on around you ? on around you? >> hello. yes, well, as you can hean >> hello. yes, well, as you can hear, it's extremely noisy. that's because there are a lot of people who just turn the camera around this way , just camera around this way, just towards that direction is bank. so that's where the protest is starting from. and they're going to take a through london. to take a march through london. it's about two miles, probably take around 45 minutes an hour making their way to parliament square, which is where speeches will be held today. the organisers say they're expecting around 200,000 people from across the country to be attending. today, 1700 officers are on duty. they've come down from around different parts of the country for what the police say is the biggest protest activity of the year. now the met says that they recognise people have the right to

protest. they say that's fundamental battle. say fundamental battle. they say that , the majority that most people, the majority of people here today are here to peacefully and lawfully protest. but they do have a message for what they say is the minority of people they say may come to people who they say may come to these events, use these events as excuse to incite hatred, as an excuse to incite hatred, whether that's through carrying offensive banners or through showing that they are supporting a proscribed organisation like hamas. they say those people that they can expect to be dealt with by the police, but they say they recognise the majority of people here today are for here a peaceful protest. this is the seventh major national march that's been held by the in support of palestine. now the organiser here today, people here today, they're calling on the uk government to call for a ceasefire in in gaza. they say that so far there's a reported 22,000 people that have been killed since the conflict began . killed since the conflict began. and that's a number that israel disputes . and that's a number that israel disputes. it's and that's a number that israel disputes . it's excuse me . and that's a number that israel disputes. it's excuse me . um, disputes. it's excuse me. um, now that over half of them are

reported to be children. so that's why they're calling for today. they want ceasefire to today. they want a ceasefire to be from our be the pressure from our government to be put on to israel . now, tomorrow, there's israel. now, tomorrow, there's a mass rally also being held in support of israel that, again, will have a heavy police presence that's being held from around 2:00 in trafalgar square . around 2:00 in trafalgar square. and police say the same rules will apply for apply to tomorrow as well. >> lisa, thank you very much. lisa hartle there, our london reporter lisa will be staying with us again throughout the program covering that march, and we will bring you up to speed on any developments, but hopefully it be peaceful as most of it will be peaceful as most of these marches have been . now, these marches have been. now, these marches have been. now, the big this week, the other big story this week, how can we avoid it? the post office has dominated office scandal has dominated headunes office scandal has dominated headlines for days, hasn't it? um, from former ceo paula vennells saying she will hand back her cbe to the post office investigator being confronted in a public inquiry. the victims might just have stepped closer towards just this, a justice they deserve, don't they?

joining me now is gb news political correspondent olivia utley . olivia. good afternoon. utley. olivia. good afternoon. thank you for joining utley. olivia. good afternoon. thank you forjoining us utley. olivia. good afternoon. thank you for joining us this afternoon. um, olivia , what afternoon. um, olivia, what i understand you got a little exclusive . what's going on? um, exclusive. what's going on? um, tell us more . tell us more. >> well, yes, i was speaking to yvonne tracy this morning, who is a local councillor. in the surbiton area. she is a former postmistress herself , and she's postmistress herself, and she's well acquainted with a neighbour, a constituency of ed davey's, who attempted suicide on three occasions after being wrongfully accused, being wrongfully accused, being wrongfully accused, being wrongfully accused of theft in the horizon scandal . now she is the horizon scandal. now she is running to be an mp against ed davey in his seat of kingston and surbiton, and i think we can hear what she had to say. >> so i just saw, like many other people, the program about mr bates versus the post office, and i was really sad first of all. but then really angry. and i thought this was poor people.

um, what what can we do to help them get justice? because they still haven't got justice. and um, my own mp is ed davey in the constituent i live in. and i just think , um, i would have just think, um, i would have loved it if we could have got a subpostmaster who'd been affected by this to stand against ed davey. but i can understand that probably there confidence is not. and they probably are fed up to death with the government, etc. so i thought , with the government, etc. so i thought, it's going to be me. i'm reluctantly doing it, but i feel i have to do something and this is all i can do. >> so that was yvonne tracy, who is now standing to be an independent mp in ed davey's constituency here in southwest london. you can sense the palpable anger there from mrs. tracy and that anger is reflected among subpostmasters and also the general public throughout the whole country . it throughout the whole country. it does feel now as though the political spotlight, as it were, is on ed davey. he did an

interview yesterday with itv, which was a bit of a car crash really. on ten occasions he refused to actually apologise, to suppose masters. his explanation is that, yet he was approached by alan bates. but when he went to relay alan bates concerns to the post office, he was lied to on an industrial scale. now that is the line that the lib dems are sticking with at the moment. but critics of ed davey say that as postal affairs minister between 2010 and 2012, it was his job to ask those searching questions on of the post office. it will be really interesting to see what happens interesting to see what happens in this seat of kingston and surbiton come the general election . ed davey has election. ed davey has a majority at the moment of 10,000, but that majority is far from under makeable. davey actually lost his seat in 2015, only to regain it in 2017. could yvonne tracy, running on an independent platform promising to stand up for the postmasters ,

to stand up for the postmasters, manage to unseat the liberal democrat leader ? crazier things democrat leader? crazier things have happened , olivia, thank you have happened, olivia, thank you very much there that olivia utley gb news political correspondent there with our , correspondent there with our, frankly, the amazing yvonne tracy , who is standing against tracy, who is standing against sir ed davey now , talking of sir sir ed davey now, talking of sir ed davey speaking earlier this week, that ed davey himself had this to say about his tenure as postal affairs minister in the coalition government . coalition government. >> i wish i'd known then what we all know now . all know now. >> the post office was lying on an industrial scale to me. another minister's . yes, a another minister's. yes, a liberal democrat spokesperson had this to say in response, ed bitterly regrets that the post office were not honest with him at the time. >> his heart goes out to the families caught up in this miscarriage of justice, and he will fully cooperate with the inquiry to the bottom of inquiry to get to the bottom of what? wrong? okay uh, what? what went wrong? okay uh, right. joining me now is

political commentators is our political commentators is our political commentators, matthew stadlen and suzanne evans. thank you very much for joining me this afternoon . now, this story this afternoon. now, this story is not going to go away, nor should it go away. and it seems to be getting worse and worse on a daily basis. i mean, to be getting worse and worse on a daily basis . i mean, suzanne, a daily basis. i mean, suzanne, what do you make of ed davey? not even an apology rising for, i mean, for people lost their lives in this for people took their own lives. let's not forget that people lost their lives, know, 700 lives, you know, at least 700 went jail . went to jail. >> they lost families. they lost homes jobs, lost homes. they lost jobs, they lost opportunities . it's shocking. opportunities. it's shocking. and as you say, dawn , this story and as you say, dawn, this story just to be getting just seems to be getting worse and other and worse every day. some other new horror comes out . i mean, new horror comes out. i mean, yesterday, the horror that we found that the investigators for the post office were being paid bonuses convictions . yes. so bonuses for convictions. yes. so talk about actually pre pre—judging people . it's quite shocking. >> i think like the mafia though were described as well. >> they denied it didn't they, were described as well. >>the ay denied it didn't they, were described as well. >>the public ed it didn't they, were described as well. >>the public inquirydn't they, were described as well. >>the public inquirydn' course at the public inquiry of course started this week. but after after christmas break. but after the christmas break. but

yes that they yes the allegations that they were behaving like mafia gangsters, that they were intimidating harassing intimidating people, harassing people . well, know, heard people. well, you know, we heard shocking about from one shocking stories about from one post uh worker who who post office. uh worker who who said that she had eggs and flour thrown at her home and had to leave result the false leave as a result of the false allegations. the allegations that to be false that are now proven to be false against her. so this is shocking . and the fact that ed davey won't is won't apologise, i think, is symptomatic a wider issue at symptomatic of a wider issue at the top of any kind of organisation. this idea never apologise, never explain . if you apologise, never explain. if you cannot say sorry, even if you you feel genuinely believe you didn't have a role to play in this or not such a role that you just you just wouldn't not do it. i don't think it's shocking . it. i don't think it's shocking. just say sorry and it's not ed davey there are hundreds of people involved in this scandal who not coming out, who are who are not coming out, who are not apologising , who are not not apologising, who are not offering to hand back honours , offering to hand back honours, who are not offering to hand back . mean, know, back bonuses. i mean, you know, some now saying some tory mps are now saying that that the that the bonuses that the investigator were given should be paid into compensation be paid into the compensation fund. and i think there's a case

to be made for that from an ethical perspective. interesting >> now, obviously, sir, ed davey is here defend is not here to defend himself. we to come on the we would love him to come on the show, couldn't show, but obviously he couldn't make um, but you know, make it today. um, but you know, he's, you know, post office minister since 1997, which is when this started, by the way, we've had basically , um, there we've had basically, um, there has been laid over, there has been tory, there has been lib dem. so it is across all parties. it's not even one party political issue here. um, matthew, one of the facts that , matthew, one of the facts that, um, that stunned me was the £75,000 compensation offered to some of these postmasters who have lost everything, absolutely lost everything is equal to the former ceo , former boss paula former ceo, former boss paula vennells. monthly salary. >> one of the things that is astonishing going and chilling about all this is that despite quite all of this coverage and despite many of us knowing about this, for as long as we've had, i mean, this story has been knocking around for years and years in some form or another.

since 2009. not a single person has been held accountable, not one. and this , if it is as we one. and this, if it is as we think it is , and as the prime think it is, and as the prime minister has described it as being one of the greatest, if not the greatest, miscarriage of justice in british history, what doesit justice in british history, what does it say that here we are in 2024 and no one has been held accountable? i'm glad we're talking it on the show talking about it on the show today , because how the today, because we know how the sort of media operates, sort of media circus operates, the operates. one the media agenda operates. one minute israel, gaza is the most important thing, the next minute the post office is and it's already been knocked off the front pages today. so this has to sustain, i think , and hold to sustain, i think, and hold our attention. can i make a quick point on ed davey? you're absolutely right to point out he is one of seven multiple former ministers with oversight of the conservatives, eight. >> labour eight, lib dems four. >> labour eight, lib dems four. >> it is absolutely right that he's being asked searching questions, and interview he questions, and that interview he gave yesterday a gave yesterday was just a disaster. should be disaster. i mean, it should be

shown politicians down the shown to politicians down the ages how not to conduct that. >> and the prince andrew interview i mean, it was off. >> can imagine his aides >> you can imagine his aides presumably do , don't say whatever you do, don't say sorry. the reason we should sorry. but the reason we should at least be clear on this, the reason that the spotlight is focusing on because he focusing on him, is because he is very much at the is still very much at the frontline politics. it's an frontline of politics. it's an election and inevitably election year, and inevitably it's going to be asked these tough questions. >> and obviously , as i keep >> and obviously, as i keep saying, is not here to defend saying, he is not here to defend himself. i wish he was. it would be a good interview, wouldn't it? susan , i mean, you know, it? but susan, i mean, you know, one the stories that one of the other stories that came yesterday what came out yesterday was that what the of this miscarriage the victims of this miscarriage of justice been through has been equated by the british psychological society as similar to post—traumatic stress disorder? >> it has to be imagine you have a new it system put in that. it makes it look like you're thieving . and despite all your thieving. and despite all your protestations to the contrary, nobody believes you. you are ultimately convicted and sent to jail. i mean, what that that is just the most horrific thing that could possibly happen. and

i tell you who else isn't in this studio today , who should this studio today, who should be? and that's the executives of fujitsu , who think the fujitsu, who i don't think the spotlight been shown on them spotlight has been shown on them enough really. know, enough either, really. you know, they put this system in, they defended there as defended it. there were, as matthew said, there were since 2010, at least 2009, 2010, uh , 2010, at least 2009, 2010, uh, clear evidence that it wasn't working . people were complaining working. people were complaining about it yet they carried on. and the worst of it is, is the post office is still using this system, and we know from current postmasters that it is still making money going missing. but the contract with fujitsu has been renewed until 2025 because the post office so far, we're told, can't find an alternative told, can't find an alternative to it, although they've spent many millions trying to. so what is that company doing as well? why not paying why are they not paying compensation? why it down compensation? why is it all down to government , which of to the government, which of course owns post course wholly owns the post office, hence they're having office, hence why they're having to bill? but, you office, hence why they're having to i bill? but, you office, hence why they're having to i really l? but, you office, hence why they're having to i really think but, you office, hence why they're having to i really think more you know, i really think more questions need to be asked. >> really you mentioned >> i'm really glad you mentioned fujitsu have fujitsu because they they have a £355 million contract running the brexit border in the irish

sea. they've just been awarded 19.5 million contract extension of the uk environment agency for flood defences. i buy a bucket out there. if i was you . um, why out there. if i was you. um, why are they not? we haven't even heard a word from them, have we, matthew? don't remember them matthew? i don't remember them saying we're it saying anything. we're sorry. it was a up. we're was a mess up. we're responsible. mean , clearly it responsible. i mean, clearly it was their that was very was their system that was a very good question. >> and returns to issue >> and this returns to the issue of . first and of accountability. first and foremost, i think we have to say that the victims of this appalling miscarriage of justice get justice so that they are exonerated and we have to keep the pressure on the government to make sure that this primary legislation that sunak promised for part , at least one assumes for part, at least one assumes for part, at least one assumes for a headline, because why wasn't he doing it a few weeks ago? week that ago? this week that that actually materialises ? we need actually materialises? we need to sure that those who are to make sure that those who are responsible actually held responsible are actually held properly to account , responsible are actually held properly to account, and we also have to put in some sort of process across government to ensure that this sort of thing never happens again. i've said

this before on gb news but to his credit, richard tice, who leads reform uk , he shone leads reform uk, he shone a spotlight on a show that i was on fairly recently about child maintenance payments and about the idea that i think through a combination of the dwp , the combination of the dwp, the department for work and pensions and hmrc , they were taking too and hmrc, they were taking too much money out of some people's bank accounts to pay for child maintenance, and was maintenance, and this was putting under enormous putting them under enormous stress . some people, we've been stress. some people, we've been told, taken their own told, have taken their own lives. huge concern is this lives. my huge concern is this this can happen on the sort of industrial scale that it's happenedin industrial scale that it's happened in the post office. where else could it happen ? where else could it happen? where else could it happen? where else could it happen? where else might it be happening? we cannot take computer systems face value computer systems at face value and just one more thing on the ed thing . and this not ed davey thing. and this is not just davey . this just about ed davey. this is about ministers who about all those ministers who might have been responsible . might have been responsible. there's no suggestion who was corruption at a ministerial level , but that may be tougher corruption at a ministerial level, but that may be tougher. questions were not asked . this questions were not asked. this has to be a wake up call to politicians that when people are saying look , there's

saying to them, look, there's been terrible miscarriage of been a terrible miscarriage of justice here, they to justice here, that they have to work harder dig the work far harder to dig out the truth . truth. >> yeah, i think it should. also, i think you make very >> yeah, i think it should. also, point,; you make very >> yeah, i think it should. also, point, matthew.e very >> yeah, i think it should. also, point, matthew.e should good point, matthew. it should also wake this also be a wake up call to this relentless march of technology in lives . yes, everyone in our lives. yes, everyone thinks is infallible . well, thinks tech is infallible. well, it is clearly not infallible. and yet our lives are entirely governed by it. now to the point when i try and pay for a parking ticket in my little shropshire town, i need internet access to do so . but can i town, i need internet access to do so. but can i get town, i need internet access to do so . but can i get internet do so. but can i get internet access? no i can't, tech is not the be all and end all. it really isn't . and that it should really isn't. and that it should be another wake up to too. >> think as you say, this is >> i think as you say, this is absolutely it goes absolutely proved. when it goes wrong, horribly wrong wrong, it goes horribly wrong and the little people that and it is the little people that suffer. hard to fight >> it's very hard to fight against computer. against a computer. >> and it's hard to fight >> yeah, and it's hard to fight against a state find the against a state if you find the state you and you're innocent. >> that's a very nasty place to be. and don't forget, the nhs relies computer systems relies a lot on computer systems and of the nhs might and reform of the nhs might involve computer systems, and we have to be totally vigilant about that .

about that. >> oh, fujitsu consents another contract coming along straight away. right. we have to move on. thank used to you are thank you. used to you are watching listening to gb watching and listening to gb news today with me. dawn neesom. lots more up today's lots more coming up on today's show. the threat of recession looms despite growth in november. experts warned that the uk economy is still at risk of technical recession . uh, of technical recession. uh, could this economic instability and instability sway the results of the next general election? uh all of that and much more to come. i'm dawn neesom am and you are watching and listening to gb news, britain's news

especially yours. gb news is the people's channel, britain's news channel. >> it's 1231. channel. >> it's1231. i'm aaron armstrong in the gb newsroom. let's start with some live pictures from central london, where pro—palestinian protesters are gathering hundreds of thousands are expected to march through the city this afternoon . through the city this afternoon. some 1700 police are on duty. they've warned the demonstrators they'll face arrest if they intentionally push the limit on placards and slogans. the rally is part of a global day of action involving 30 countries. the united states has carried out a new attack against houthi rebels in yemen . it comes a day rebels in yemen. it comes a day after britain and the us launched dozens of strikes on the iran backed group's positions. the houthis have vowed to continue targeting ships in the red sea to show their support palestinians ships in the red sea to show th

ensure its proxies cease and desist because, in his words , desist because, in his words, the world is running out of patience . a former postmistress patience. a former postmistress who's to stand against sarah dyke at the next general election, says he must be brought to justice. the lib dem leader was the postal affairs minister during the horizon it scandal , but minister during the horizon it scandal, but has refused to apologise to the victims or take accountability for his inaction. hundreds of staff were wrongly prosecuted after faulty software led to shortfalls in their accounts . sir ed says he was accounts. sir ed says he was lied to by the post office on an industrial scale. yvonne tracy , industrial scale. yvonne tracy, who is running as an mp for kingston and surbiton, says the constituency needs someone with integrity. i would have loved it if we could have got a subpostmaster who'd been affected by this to stand against ed davey, but i can understand that probably their confidence is not and they probably are fed up to death with government, etc. so with the government, etc. so i thought it's going to be me. >> i'm reluctantly doing it, but i feel i have to do something

and is i can do. and this is all i can do. i think he should be brought to account the first channel migrants of the year have arrived in dover. >> border force intercepted a vessel carrying around 50 people this morning. it's the first small boat crossing for 27 days. the longest period without migrant arrivals for four years. it's not bad weather deterred more people from making the dangerous journey . we'll have dangerous journey. we'll have another news bulletin coming up at around 1:00, or you can get more now on our website gbnews.com . gbnews.com. >> thank you aaron. welcome back to gb news saturday with me dawn neesom on your tv, online and on digital radio. now lots of you have been sending in your thoughts. so please keep them coming in because this show is all about you, not me or the admittedly but admittedly brilliant panels, but it you and your it is about you and your opinions. let's start with opinions. so let's start with the post office scandal, shall we? wendy says that, um, i hope

that ed davey will name the people says to him people who he says lied to him on an industrial scale at. and yet, actually, graham. good afternoon. graham. you say the same thing. so ed davey claims the post office lied to the the post office lied to him. the police interview under police must interview him under caution force to name caution and force him to name names and oh, sandra. good afternoon. sandra. sandra says, ihope afternoon. sandra. sandra says, i hope yvonne does well and beats ed davey. and that is referring to counsellor yvonne tracy who standing against tracy, who is standing against ed in his constituency and ed davey in his constituency and if you want to know more about her, if you want to know more about hen does if you want to know more about her, does have twitter if you want to know more about her, exioes have twitter if you want to know more about her, ex account,e twitter if you want to know more about her, ex account, which tter if you want to know more about her, ex account, which is r if you want to know more about her, ex account, which is at stroke ex account, which is at yvonne, new malden. so so you can follow her on there and see what she's up to and support her if want. just saying. um, if you want. just saying. um, now move shall we? now let's move on, shall we? because we have to talk money, don't we? we always do. around this time of day on a saturday. uh, experts claim that the uk is on a recession , on the brink of a recession, despite country's gdp despite the country's gdp rebounding in december. well tiny rebound. basically, office for national statistics figures show gdp expanded by nought

point 3% for november, which is slightly higher than the city's forecast for the country's economy. but analysts are warning that despite this growth for the month , gdp dropped to for the month, gdp dropped to 0.2% in the three months up to november, which means interest rates could remain on hold at the bank of england's monetary policy month . lots policy meeting next month. lots of figures for a saturday afternoon. i i that i afternoon. i know i get that i understand that and who who even knows what is. here to knows what 0.2% is. and here to explain all this much explain all of this and much more lovely justin more is the lovely justin urquhart stewart, director and co—founder regionally, to explain what's going on with these tiny weeny percentages . so these tiny weeny percentages. so everyone goes, what's that even mean? >> as bounds go, it's >> yeah, as bounds go, it's a pretty bound. >> yeah, as bounds go, it's a pretty it bound. >> yeah, as bounds go, it's a pretty it was bound. >> yeah, as bounds go, it's a pretty it was sort|d. >> yeah, as bounds go, it's a pretty it was sort of more of >> so it was sort of more of a wriggle, wrinkle wriggle, really a wrinkle basically what you're doing is actually these these frankly actually these these are frankly rounding errors. >> economy flat . >> the economy is flat. >> the economy is flat. >> it in >> but let's put it in perspective. the global economy was at about 4. was growing at about three 4. about four years ago. it's now around about half that level. and getting slower. but it's and is getting slower. but it's still being growing. see what's been in the world with been happening in the world with wars inflation. those wars and inflation. all those issues actually such

issues actually that's not such a position . however, in the a bad position. however, in the past , i'm afraid the past week, i'm afraid the indicators starting to indicators are starting to change, and i'm afraid they're not looking because cause not looking good because cause remember had remember the inflation we had piled up, didn't pile up piled up, it didn't pile up because of consumer spending. it piled up because of supply chain interference . why do we have interference. why do we have supply interference? supply chain interference? because happened in because of what happened in ukraine. happened ukraine. what happened with regard . and regard to container ships. and of course, now exactly what we're just ukraine, of course, now exactly what we'|also just ukraine, of course, now exactly what we'|also with just ukraine, of course, now exactly what we'|also with the just ukraine, of course, now exactly what we'|also with the straits.raine, of course, now exactly what we'|also with the straits of ne, but also with the straits of hormuz and also with the red sea as container as well, and huge container ships now actually going, going round the round, the cape of good hope , um, to be able to go good hope, um, to be able to go round there, that's adding time, adding that's going to adding cost. that's going to mean more inflationary mean there's more inflationary push through and it's push coming through and it's more inflationary push at a time when we thought rates when we thought interest rates could be they could could be cut, they could actually stay on there but stay there if we do start there or may even if we do start seeing inflation pick up there are some of central banks are some of the central banks might again . might start raising them again. but haven't that but we haven't reached that stage okay. not >> right. okay. you're not really here. no . but really helping here. no, no. but basically right mean, really helping here. no, no. but basi know right mean, really helping here. no, no. but basi know but right mean, really helping here. no, no. but basi know but thejht mean, really helping here. no, no. but basi know but thejht mnot, you know but by the ship's not going the sea. and going through the red sea. and i think two big shipping think there's two big shipping companies already

companies that have already diverted. days that's £1 another ten days and that's £1 million in extra fuel costs. everything is just going to go up, isn't it, steve? >> and the container rates have already gone up significantly. what is interesting is the oil price much price hasn't shot up too much you expect. you would expect. >> that gone >> actually, that has gone up though, >> actually, that has gone up tho it's, a bit, but compared >> it's up a bit, but compared to was to what we saw before, which was a reaction now this a bigger reaction to it now this could get if . well, it could get worse if. well, it depends what's happening depends on what's happening with the fighting and things like that. does seen that. and if that does is seen to you are to spread. but what you are seeing at the moment, though, is actually the economy, despite all , is showing all these headwinds, is showing all these headwinds, is showing a level global resilience. you know, the chinese economy is slowing down, but it's still growing. the american economy actually is actually quite actually is actually doing quite well. it too, it's actually well. but it too, it's actually well. but it too, it's actually we saw some growth figures there, inflation higher there, inflation slightly higher than it was than they thought it was actually be. that's actually going to be. but that's okay. you see in okay. what you actually see in there the consumer member of there is the consumer member of there is the consumer member of the over 65% of the us economy is based on joe schmo, mister and missus schmo living in and missus joe schmo living in little arkansas, little rock, arkansas, shopping in . and they their in walmart. and they own their house. they're happy, house. and if they're happy, then american economy is then the american economy is doing well, right? and so actually, that's all right for

the . but the sales are the moment. but the sales are flapping at the moment. and there's no clear direction. so what should people do at the moment? the answer is, well , moment? the answer is, well, don't panic. there's need to don't panic. there's no need to panic at the moment. you don't have and sell have to rush out and sell everything. but just just don't take the time take big risks for the time being this hasn't really being because this hasn't really felt just started felt i mean, it has just started the problems with the reds. >> been going on >> i mean, it has been going on since november, but it's obviously so since november, but it's olhasn't( so since november, but it's olhasn't( filtered so it hasn't really filtered through into the global economy. >> and what happened last time . >> and what happened last time. we know knew what to do when we know we knew what to do when we had the issue with regard to the grain not coming out of ukraine. were ukraine. other supplies were found not being found in terms of gas not being able get out and the problems able to get out and the problems there. we found other supplies for well, having for that as well, not having to be russia . so, you be dependent on russia. so, you know, an extent we've been know, to an extent we've been through before, but through some of this before, but it stop the risk it doesn't stop the risk actually being there . uh, actually still being there. uh, countries are going countries like egypt are going to with this because to be furious with this because one their income one of their primary income sources using sources is actually people using the can't the suez canal. if they can't get through it, get ships going through it, they're absolutely know that it costs lot money costs quite a lot of money to use than use the suez canal rather than go around africa. as

go around the end of africa. as long as they charge less than ten days worth fuel. they ten days worth of fuel. they people want to use them. but at the you suddenly the moment, if you suddenly losing of, suspect losing 5,060% of, i suspect probably of their um, their probably more of their um, their income coming through that, then i'm that could be very i'm afraid that could be very bad news for many. it's in bad news for many. so it's in their interest. and the middle eastern interest eastern countries interest to actually this as actually try and keep this as calm as possible, get it sorted out as much. >> but we've already heard companies and next >> but we've already heard comikeazs and next >> but we've already heard com ikea ,! and next >> but we've already heard com ikea , um, and next >> but we've already heard com ikea , um, sayingand next >> but we've already heard com ikea , um, saying thatlext >> but we've already heard com ikea , um, saying thatlezis and ikea, um, saying that it is affecting business. >> so what you've got >> yeah. so what you've got again , exactly we before, again, exactly as we saw before, was interrupting the delivery. remember, we had all those consultants for the past 15 years around years going around where you need delivery , need just in time delivery, which just which means everything stretched . so it everything is stretched. so it just it gets adjusted . the just it gets adjusted. the trouble is, just in time is as soon you cut it, like soon as you cut it, it's like a piece of elastic twang. um, piece of elastic goes twang. um, and missing the piece of elastic goes twang. um, andbattery missing the piece of elastic goes twang. um, andbattery the missing the piece of elastic goes twang. um, andbattery the wheel1g the piece of elastic goes twang. um, andbattery the wheel orthe car battery or the wheel or whatever need, which whatever it is you need, which gets there in he gets there just in time so he can't complete his tesla's or whatever it happens to so whatever it happens to be. so again, companies have seen this before have before and they have been building alternative . they've building in alternative. they've been building supplies and been building up supplies and

stocks been stocks. if they haven't been doing that, then they haven't been attention. been paying attention. manufacturers that i look at actually are the who said actually are the ones who said yes. we yes. look, we know what we can do there are do about this. there are alternatives it. it's risky, do about this. there are altewe'vezs it. it's risky, do about this. there are altewe'vezs ihere. risky, do about this. there are altewe'vezs ihere.payy, but we've been here. pay attention and revert to the next plan you did last time. >> i say it's interesting you mentioned the price gone mentioned the oil price has gone up and $80 a barrel first time since christmas. but not as much as could do. absolutely and as it could do. absolutely and the of fired the houthis sort of like fired back missed back last night and just missed a tanker carrying russian oil . a tanker carrying russian oil. >> yes. that's very clever, isn't it? yes. >> i mean, it just gets scarier the more you talk and the more you talk about it and think about it, doesn't it? um, justin, for justin, thank you so much for coming in and cheering coming in and kind of cheering us thank us up. can i say that? um, thank you. that's justin urquhart stewart, and stewart, a director and co—founder there co—founder at regionally. there trying to or cheer us up trying to join or cheer us up a bit. uh, right. trying to join or cheer us up a bit. uh, right . okay. trying to join or cheer us up a bit. uh, right. okay. now we actually move on and you are watching and listening to gb news saturday with me. dawn neesom loads more coming up on the show. some it's even the show. some of it's even genuinely donald genuinely cheerful. uh, donald trump is back in the news. probably this actually. probably not this bit, actually. the president has been the former president has been ordered pay york ordered to pay the new york

times nearly $400,000 in legal fees after a failed lawsuit. mr trump had accused the newspaper and estranged niece of an insidious plot to obtain his tax record . that plot thickens as record. that plot thickens as well, doesn't it? all of that, and much more to come. you're watching and listening to gb news, britain's news channel

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>> a picture of a baby . welcome >> a picture of a baby. welcome back to gb news saturday with me dawn neesom i could tell you what we're talking about then, but to me. um on but you'd have to kill me. um on your tv, online and on digital radio. now we go to world. radio. now we go to trump world. um, president. donald um, former president. donald trump has been ordered to pay the new york times nearly $400,000 after failed lawsuit . $400,000 after failed lawsuit. mr trump had accused the newspaper and his estranged niece of an insidious, insidious plot his tax plot even to obtain his tax records. this comes as he verbally a judge verbally attacked a judge overseeing his $370 million civil fraud trial in new york, after he was granted five minutes to make a closing argument . the former president argument. the former president had been banned from speaking dunng had been banned from speaking during thursday's court session after he would not agree to limitations preventing him from making a campaign speech. basically you know what trump's going to do, don't but going to do, don't you? but trump being trump, his tirade grabbed headlines and he actually into a vote. actually turned it into a vote. trump monologue basically. um, joining me now to explain what is going on in american politics, which makes ours look

fairly sane ish is chair of republicans overseas uk , greg republicans overseas uk, greg swenson. greg, thank you very much for coming in and joining us. thanks, don. right okay. what's on? what's going on? >> trump is really benefiting from all this chaos. and he converts the chaos into support . converts the chaos into support. right. and it's really remarkable how he handles it. and you know, many of us would can be critical of president trump because of the chaos , trump because of the chaos, because of this is because so much of this is self—inflicted and yet , self—inflicted wounds. and yet, you know, the raid on mar a lago , the four indictments, the mugshot, it all helps him because the voters perhaps for good reason, are viewing this as the weaponization of the justice system and really politicised justice. justice so unfair. yeah s but it helps him completely. it's amazing. >> we're just talking during the break just there about how he is. i've only met him once and greg's him quite a few greg's met him quite a few times, him times, but we don't know him that just that personally. but he just nothing , nothing that personally. but he just nothing, nothing him. nothing, nothing fazes him. he is incredible to have that is quite incredible to have that level of confidence . i mean, level of confidence. i mean, christine our , um,

christine lagarde, our, um, warned donald trump is clearly a threat to europe . um, she's the threat to europe. um, she's the head of the european central bank. >> of course she said that. yes she's surprised. >> europe. yeah >> europe. yeah >> i mean, a lot of that trump trump derangement is trump derangement syndrome is completely unfair. and a lot of it is , is just, you know, the it is, is just, you know, the predictable the unrestrained, you know, kind of a excitement or, or , you know, what she's or, or, you know, what she's saying is typical of a, of a bureaucrat in western europe, especially at multilateral . but, especially at multilateral. but, you know, you have to ignore sometimes you have to ignore what he says because he's unfiltered . he doesn't unfiltered. he doesn't communicate properly . and then communicate properly. and then you have to look at what the press said, he said, which is often different than what he actually most actually said. but most importantly, you have to look at what does and in reality , what trump does and in reality, europe was better under europe was better off under trump. we had a stronger defence, which is very, very beneficial to the europeans and peace and prosperity. so, you know, they look back and say, you know, they always go with the trump derangement syndrome,

when in fact , in spite of the when in fact, in spite of the chaos. and again , it's somewhat chaos. and again, it's somewhat i think he'd be so much more effective or another candidate would be more effective if there was discipline and if there if they , you know, we paid they, you know, we paid attention to what he says , not attention to what he says, not just what he does, but what he's been did in his been what he did in his administration good administration was actually good for ? for europe, right? >> ignoring the fact that it's actually facing 91 felony counts. he's scheduled to counts. and he's scheduled to stand isn't it, stand trial in march, isn't it, over the conspiring to overturn the 2020 election, putting all that to one side. it's a busy year legally sure. year legally for him. sure. obviously, an american, how obviously, as an american, how do you feel if trump was president with the situation going on in the middle east at the moment, would you be more confident in how america are deaung confident in how america are dealing with it? >> yes, i would, and whether it's trump or any republican candidate, but, you know, the president really developed peace and prosperity in the region with the abraham accords. he he was very deliberate in, you know, his termination, i'll call it, of general soleimani from

the irgc. you know, he did it, you know, without warning . he you know, without warning. he did it without, you know , did it without, you know, basically announcing it like biden and the pentagon spokesman did last week. you know , that did last week. you know, that enabled the you know, the houthis to hide some of their armaments and hide some of their missiles in homes, like they do, like just like hamas does. so you know, trump actually had very good execution in the middle east. and everybody screamed that it was going to escalate and this was going to lead war. and it didn't. and lead to war. and it didn't. and the iranians actually stepped lead to war. and it didn't. and the i|after|s actually stepped lead to war. and it didn't. and the i|after|s atookly stepped lead to war. and it didn't. and the i|after|s atook careepped lead to war. and it didn't. and the i|after|s atook care oerd soleimani. >> and i know you don't just quickly run out of time, greg, unfortunately. know unfortunately. but i know you don't for american. don't speak for every american. obviously the obviously but, you know, the americans launched another attack overnight on a houthi target, them on their own, operating on their own. this operating on their own. is this getting support in america? >> is it is. and you'll have >> it is it is. and you'll have the usual, you know , suspicions the usual, you know, suspicions on progressive left . and on the progressive left. and they the only ones really they were the only ones really critical the usual critical of biden. the usual suspects nana, for suspects broke nana, for example. um you know, they criticised him for not

consulting with the congress , consulting with the congress, but that's completely absurd. presidents do not have to do that. the 2001 resolution that that. the 2001 resolution that that suggested that presidents can and in fact , will, you know, can and in fact, will, you know, combat terrorism without the authority from congress, they basically gave them that authority in oh one. but he didn't even need that for this. presidents can do that because it was it was against an attack. it was just retaliatory . and so it was just retaliatory. and so that is, you know, the that that is, you know, the criticism from the left is only from usual suspects on the from the usual suspects on the progressive . progressive wing. >> welcome to our world. uh, greg swenson , chair of greg swenson, chair of republicans you republicans overseas. thank you very joining us this very much for joining us this afternoon . uh, god, it's such afternoon. uh, god, it's such a busy show. uh, the university of york has said it will lower its tariff for some overseas students response to students in response to financial challenges. the russell group university, that's one of the posh ones, will now admit some overseas applicants who pay much higher who typically pay much higher fees . uh, that achieved the fees. uh, that achieved the equivalent of bbc grades at a—level. but the bar still remains high for british applicants . it doesn't sound applicants. it doesn't sound that fair to me . let's see what

that fair to me. let's see what editor in chief of the good schools lord ralph lucas, schools guide, lord ralph lucas, makes of it. uh, thank you very much for joining makes of it. uh, thank you very much forjoining us this much for joining us this afternoon . uh, what's going on afternoon. uh, what's going on here? uh they want money. >> uh, they're finding it hard to recruit overseas students who are very profitable for them , are very profitable for them, uh, at the grades they'd set. so they lowered the grades . uh, and they lowered the grades. uh, and this is going to damage them enormously. unless they take corrective action. >> so how how is this going to affect british students , though, affect british students, though, who are who are obviously fighting for the same places? or were they same amount of places be . be allocated. >> sorry i lost you there, dawn, but i hope you can hear me. >> yes, i can hear you loud and clear. you . you diva. clear. you. you diva. >> because the university has allowed itself to be valued on the, uh , the tariff. it sets the the, uh, the tariff. it sets the difficulty of getting in, uh, lowering that lowers the whole ,

lowering that lowers the whole, uh, value of the university . the uh, value of the university. the answer is to go round and really give a, uh , a positive, uh , spin give a, uh, a positive, uh, spin to this by looking at how well students do afterwards is to look at the values added . look at the values added. >> and just does this mean i hope you can hear me? does this mean that british students will be snubbed for these places because the university can make more money out of foreign students ? it's no , i don't i'm students? it's no, i don't i'm afraid i'm not hearing you at all. >> i hope you're hearing me. uh . >> i hope you're hearing me. uh. i i can hear you loud and clear. >> you talk. i'll just sit and listen. no >> i'm sorry. you bet . you >> i'm sorry. you bet. you better try something else, because i've entirely lost communication with you. i can't hear you at all. >> okay, unfortunately. unfortunately um, i can hear you loud and clear, and you're making lot sense. that's, making a lot of sense. that's, uh. lucas there,

uh. lord ralph lucas there, editor chief of good editor in chief of the good schools unfortunately editor in chief of the good schools me. unfortunately editor in chief of the good schools me. but1fortunately editor in chief of the good schools me. but the unately editor in chief of the good schools me. but the storyly couldn't hear me. but the story basically the university of basically is the university of york lowering entry requirements for international students who pay for international students who pay higher than uk applicants. british students pay £9,200, as we know, and that's been frozen. but universities can charge whatever they want for foreign students . so i think what i students. so i think what i really wanted to lord lucas , really wanted to ask lord lucas, there is it actually snubbing british students? will british students suffer because obviously the more lucrative , obviously the more lucrative, um, the more lucrative um students are going to be from foreigners from abroad. but i didn't get the chance to ask that. unfortunately um, but, i mean, you do want to know, really? is it the size of your bank balance or the size of your brain that you university brain that gets you university degree i degree these days? obviously, i didn't to didn't go. you might be able to tell, case, let's move tell, um, any case, let's move on, uh, you're on, shall we? uh, you're watching and listening gb news saturday me . dawn neesom. saturday with me. dawn neesom. and more coming up and there's lots more coming up on show . but we are on today's show. but we are british, so we are now going to talk about the weather. let's take a look at what it's

actually doing with jonathan. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> hello there . i'm jonathan >> hello there. i'm jonathan vautrey here of your gb news weather forecast provided by the met office . a bit of a mixed met office. a bit of a mixed picture out there for saturday. quite cloudy skies across southern areas of england and wales, few brighter breaks wales, but a few brighter breaks for northern ireland, for areas of northern ireland, northern england to end off the day. patchy outbreaks day. some patchy light outbreaks of drizzle as well, but of rain and drizzle as well, but most staying this most of us staying dry into this overnight some those overnight period. some of those clearer around will allow overnight period. some of those cle some around will allow overnight period. some of those cle some frost around will allow overnight period. some of those cle some frost aro develop allow for some frost to develop overnight, as well as some mist and fog patches . temperatures, and fog patches. temperatures, though, hold to on the though, where you hold to on the cloud, be just above cloud, will be just above freezing of towns freezing. many of our towns and cities 1 or 2 c still cities around 1 or 2 c still quite cloudy into sunday as well. for wales . central well. for wales. central southern areas of england again can't rule out some odd spots of light rain and drizzle. a few brighter breaks trying poke light rain and drizzle. a few brighwayireaks trying poke light rain and drizzle. a few brighwaythrough/ing poke light rain and drizzle. a few brighway through for| poke light rain and drizzle. a few brighway through for northern their way through for northern ireland, northern england areas of showers of scotland as well. showers though streaming the far

though streaming into the far north to north of scotland, are going to be falling snow even to lower be falling as snow even to lower levels, risk of ice levels, bringing the risk of ice on some very levels, bringing the risk of ice on winds some very levels, bringing the risk of ice on winds across some very levels, bringing the risk of ice on winds across shetland,'ery strong winds across shetland, the northern isles as well severe bringing the risk severe gales bringing the risk of drifting snow around at times. that strong wind, times. and in that strong wind, it's very it's going to be feeling very raw . that cold air that raw indeed. that cold air that is streaming out of the arctic is streaming out of the arctic is slowly going to push its way across uk, so across all areas of the uk, so you those blue colours you can see those blue colours covering the covering all areas of the country. head into monday . country. as we head into monday. snow showers continuing to push in from the primarily in from the north, primarily affecting scotland but affecting northern scotland but also into northern also now pushing into northern ireland, and we might see a few skirting the far west of wales, england, parts england, as well as parts of humberside norfolk, humberside and norfolk, head further inland, though monday looks like quite a bright and sunny day, but for all, and sunny day, but cold for all, and that continuing that cold theme is continuing right week . right throughout next week. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb solar sponsors of weather on. gb news. thank you very much, jonathan. >> what is basically saying it's a bit nippy out there, so wrap up warm. lots more coming up on today's show. the united states

has launched fresh attacks on houthi rebels in yemen as the rebels the us and uk air rebels vow the us and uk air strikes will not go without punishment retaliation. what punishment or retaliation. what doesit punishment or retaliation. what does it mean for the destabilisation region destabilisation of the region and of and much and us? all of that and much more neesom more to come. i'm dawn neesom and and and you're watching and listening. gb news britain's news channel. don't

hello and welcome to gb news saturday. it's exactly 1:00. not that you need to know. it's a saturday afternoon. you're relaxing . saturday afternoon. you're relaxing. i'm saturday afternoon. you're relaxing . i'm dawn neesom. and relaxing. i'm dawn neesom. and for the next two hours, i'll be keeping you company on tv, onune keeping you company on tv, online digital radio, online and on digital radio, keeping to date on the keeping you up to date on the stories to stories that really matter to you. this hour, the you. coming up this hour, the united states has launched fresh attacks on houthi rebels in yemen as the rebels vow the us and uk strikes will not go without punishment or retaliation . what does that mean retaliation. what does that mean for the destabilised nation of the region, and what does it mean for us over here? then the met police say around 1700 officers will be on duty to police the march for palestine today, the government's independent adviser on political violence and disruption , says violence and disruption, says march is calling for a jihad , march is calling for a jihad, should be arrested. will we see any troubles in the capital? will those arrests happen? and we'll be bringing you up date we'll be bringing you up to date on latest post office on the very latest post office scandal. as we interview the postmistress, is plotting an postmistress, who is plotting an election challenge to sir ed

davey. election challenge to sir ed davey . but this davey. but this isn't about me. it's about you and what you think. so we need your views. let me know all your thoughts on what we're talking about and anything you want to talk about as well. the um, email anything you want to talk about as vat l. the um, email anything you want to talk about as vat gbviews@gbnews.com ail anything you want to talk about as vat gbviews@gbnews.com or me at gbviews@gbnews.com or message me on our socials at gb news. very simple. but first let's have a look at the news headunes let's have a look at the news headlines with aaron armstrong . headlines with aaron armstrong. >> very good afternoon to you. it's just after 1:00 i'm aaron armstrong. thousands of pro—palestinian protesters are in central london. they're preparing to march through the city. some live pictures for you here. 1700 police or so are on duty, many of them from forces outside the capital. so a big presence there. now, police are warning demonstrators that they'll face arrest if they intentionally push the limit on

placards or slogans . the rally placards or slogans. the rally is part of a global day of action involving 30 countries. meanwhile the united states has carried out a fresh attack against houthi rebels in yemen. it comes a day after britain and the us launched dozens of strikes on the iran backed group's positions. the houthis have vowed to continue targeting ships in the red sea to show their support for palestinians in gaza . military analyst sean in gaza. military analyst sean bell says america's strike was strategic, focusing on a specific target. the us unilaterally did the strike last night. >> it's either that following yesterday, the houthis launched another missile almost as a an act of petulance . and it looks act of petulance. and it looks either in response to that , the either in response to that, the us has struck this radar site or after the strikes on thursday night, battle damage assessment, they will have looked and said, ah, one of the radar sites is still survive of the attack and therefore they decided to use uss carney to use another tomahawk missile to actually

take it out. it does seem to be a surgical, measured a very surgical, measured response and it is a unilateral response. last night, a former postmistress who's to stand against sir ed davey at the next general election says he must be brought justice. brought to justice. >> dem leader was the >> the lib dem leader was the postal minister during postal affairs minister during the horizon it scandal, but has refused to apologise to the victims or take any accountability for his inaction . accountability for his inaction. hundreds of staff were wrongly prosecuted after faulty software led to shortfalls in subpostmasters accounts. sir ed says he was lied to by the post office on an industrial scale. while speaking exclusively to gb news yvonne tracy , who's running news yvonne tracy, who's running as an mp for kingston and surbiton, says the constituency needs someone with integrity . needs someone with integrity. >> i would have loved it if we could have got a subpostmaster who'd been affected by this to stand against ed davey , but i stand against ed davey, but i can understand that probably there confidence is not and they probably are fed up to death with the government, etc. so i thought it's going to be me. i'm

reluctantly doing it, but i feel ihave reluctantly doing it, but i feel i have to do something and this is all i can do. i think he should be brought to account . should be brought to account. >> meanwhile, tax experts say the post office could be facing insolvency for failing to pay up to £100 million in tax. they say the company claimed £934 million of tax relief on compensation they paid to branch managers caught up in the horizon scandal . tax policy associates and non profit organisations described the practice as outrageous and potentially unlawful , while the potentially unlawful, while the post office says its financial information is accurate and appropriate . however, lawyer appropriate. however, lawyer nigel hudgell represented some of the subpostmasters as we've got an it system that clearly was flawed, but people made decisions on the back of that , decisions on the back of that, so those people need to be held to account and i think we've seen some people come out this week, some high profile individuals has expressed regret individuals has expressed regret in some instances , apologise, in some instances, apologise, you know, gestures around handing back honours . handing back honours. >> i think the feeling within the people that i speak to is some of this is rather late in

the day. it's forced . the day. it's forced. >> the first channel migrants of the year have arrived in dover. border force intercepts a vessel earlier carrying around 50 people. it's the first small boat crossing since the 16th of december. that's the longest penod december. that's the longest period without migrant arrivals for almost four years. bad weather may have prevented more people from making the dangerous journey . and speaking of bad journey. and speaking of bad weather, more snow and subzero temperatures are expected in some parts of the uk. this weekend. the met office has issued yellow warnings for much of the north of scotland from midnight until monday evening, when temperatures could drop as low as minus five degrees . some low as minus five degrees. some disruption to travel is expected both on the roads and the railways. north and ireland is also expected to get some snow on . this is gb news. on monday. this is gb news. we're live on tv, digital, radio and on your smart. speaker two now it's back to dawn .

now it's back to dawn. >> thank you aaron. now thank you very much. let's get stuck into today's stories, shall we? the post office scandal dominated headlines last week. former ceo paula vennells saying she will hand back her cbe to the post office investigator being confronted in a public inquiry . the victims might just inquiry. the victims might just have stepped closer towards justice. joining me now is gb news political correspondent, olivia utley, to bring us up to date on on this incredibly now fast moving story after 25 years. olivia good afternoon. so what's the latest on this story ? what's the latest on this story? >> well , as what's the latest on this story? >> well, as you say, it does sound as though those postmasters and mistresses will get justice relatively soon. in pmqs this week , rishi sunak pmqs this week, rishi sunak talked about a plan for a new law which would essentially exonerate all of those 700 wrongly convicted postmasters. in one fell swoop, they could

simply sign a form to see their wrongful conviction overturned and could receive a good chunk of compensation. but as we know, pubuc of compensation. but as we know, public anger has reached fever pitch over this story. after that, excellent itv drama mr bates versus the post office, and in the political spotlight at the moment is sir ed davey, the leader of the liberal democrat ps now he was postal affairs minister between 2010 and 2012, and he received five letters from mr bates, alan bates, the champion of postmasters and the and the main character in that itv drama, uh, alan bates asked him for a meeting on five occasions, and ed davey refused him that meeting , saying that it would meeting, saying that it would serve no useful purpose. now ed davey says that the problem was that the post office lied to him on an industrial scale. those are the words that he used. he says that he relayed alan bates problems to the post office and the post office simply said that

the post office simply said that the it system horizon was was not at fault . and essentially it not at fault. and essentially it must be the postmasters to blame critics of ed davey say that he should have questioned that he should have questioned that he should have questioned that he should have dug into the detail as postal affairs minister, and found out what was really going on.and found out what was really going on. and this morning i spoke to yvonne tracy, who's an independent councillor in ed davey constituency of surbiton , davey constituency of surbiton, kingston and surbiton. she's planning to run against ed davey in the general election as a potential mp in order to stand up for, as she said, the little people . now here's a proper look people. now here's a proper look at what she to say . at what she had to say. >> so i just saw, like many other people, the program about mr versus the post office, mr bates versus the post office, and i was really sad. first of all, but then really angry . and all, but then really angry. and i thought these poor people, um, what can we do to help them get justice? because they still haven't got justice. and um, my own mp is ed davey in the constituent i live in. and i

just think, um , i would have just think, um, i would have loved it if we could have got a subpostmaster who'd been affected by this to stand against ed davey. but i can understand that. probably their confidence is not, and they probably are fed up to death with the government, etc. so i thought , with the government, etc. so i thought, it's going to be me. i'm reluctantly doing it, but i feel i have to do something and this is all i can do. >> so you can sense there the palpable anger from yvonne tracy and that anger is echoed up and down the country from postmasters and mistresses and of course, the general public. now, does yvonne tracy stand a chance of winning in this constituency of kingston and surbiton? well, ed davey has a 10,000 majority. that's a pretty decent majority. but it's not unshakeable. ed davey actually lost his seat in 2015, only to win it back again in 2017. if yvonne tracy managed to get that seat off ed davey, it would be a real victory for postmaster was and post mistresses and would

give them that voice in parliament. but obviously it's a pretty steep hill to climb. >> olivia , thank you very much. >> olivia, thank you very much. ac olivia utley there gb news political correspondent on the ongoing horrors of the post office story. now, speaking earlier this week, sir ed davey had this to say about his tenure as postal affairs minister in the coalition government . the coalition government. >> i wish i'd known then what we all know now . all know now. >> the post office was lying on an industrial scale to me . an industrial scale to me. another minister's . a liberal another minister's. a liberal democrat spokesman had this to say in response , ed bitterly say in response, ed bitterly regrets . that the post office regrets. that the post office were not honest with him at the time. >> his heart goes out to the families caught up in this miscarriage of and miscarriage of justice, and he will cooperate with the will fully cooperate with the inquiry to get to the bottom of what went wrong. now, lots of you have been getting in touch with your thoughts on this. uh, many showing support for yvonne tracy . that's the postmistress

tracy. that's the postmistress who , uh, plots an election who, uh, plots an election challenge to sir ed davey. um who is not here to defend himself by the way, i wish he was. it'd be fantastic to talk to him and get his side of the story, but, you we're story, but, you know, we're working one. but working on that one. uh, but thank you your emails, thank you for your emails, because are because your views are important. says the important. uh, judith says the post office scandal is getting the nation the attention, outrage of the outrage and sympathy of the people because to the people because thanks to the endurance certain people, endurance of certain people, alan bates and his fellow postmasters , the postmasters and mistresses, the fact and the misery have been portrayed for everyone to see and . and dave, good and judge. and dave, good afternoon dave says. um, uh, yvonne, tracy is simply brilliant. i would vote for her running against ed davey and as i say, he's not here to defend himself. so if you think we're being particularly mean to him, we really trying not to. and we are really trying not to. and bear mind there were four bear in mind there were four laboun bear in mind there were four labour, four conservative and two lib dem people in charge of the post office. um the politically from 1999, which is when this started . that's 25 when this started. that's 25 years. so it's not just sir ed davey. there are lots of people

who really do have questions to answer on this one. now but for the best analysis and opinion on that story and much, much more , that story and much, much more, please go to our website. it's gbnews.com. very simple . now we gbnews.com. very simple. now we move on overnight. the united states launched fresh strikes against a houthi radar site in yemen following a joint operation between the uk and the us yesterday , nearly 30 houthi us yesterday, nearly 30 houthi positions were targeted during the first wave of strikes . in the first wave of strikes. in a statement, the houthi supreme political council has vowed to retaliate , threatening the all retaliate, threatening the all american and british interests have become legitimate targets for the yemeni armed forces in yemen's capital of sanaa. tens of thousands have joined a military parade and protest in support of gaza. now it's a very complicated story, so i am very, very grateful that we have , uh, very grateful that we have, uh, chip chapman, former head of counter terrorism at the mod, joining us to explain what is going on. i mean, you've been there, you've lived this. you

know what's going on. you've worked in that area. um most of us sitting here watching this going, oh my god, are we getting involved in another war in the middle east? >> well, i don't think we're getting involved in a war, but of see military of course, when you see military activity take place, people always a maximalist always go to a maximalist position. so what the coalition tried to achieve for the first six weeks really was a defensive posture, deterrence by denial . posture, deterrence by denial. thatis posture, deterrence by denial. that is operation. the operation prosperity guardian , with the prosperity guardian, with the ships trying to escort , um, ships trying to escort, um, commercial shipping that patently hasn't worked with the 28 attacks, which have now happened by the houthis, and that has led to a posture now with the attacks which happened. so you've gone from a defensive posture to an offensive posture to, to use a baseball analogy , to, to use a baseball analogy, the former commander of centcom , the former commander of centcom, general frank mckenzie, said, you know , you can either catch you know, you can either catch as a baseball or you can pitch and sometimes you've got to pitch because what you can't have is the waterway interdicted

all the time by missiles on a frequent basis. that's why the attack is there. the aim of the attack is there. the aim of the attack . the attack is obviously attack. the attack is obviously to try and get deterrence to work again, that is to get the houthis to desist . the un houthis to desist. the un security council also that wants that to happen. i think it was significant this week that the abstentions came from . russia abstentions came from. russia and china. they didn't vote against it. so they also want these attacks to desist because these attacks to desist because the flow of international trade is in everyone's it's in their interest. >> i mean, it was it was a russian carrying russian oil overnight that a huti missile very nearly hit. so which brings i mean, you know, obviously america and the uk , they launch america and the uk, they launch this attack, but the houthis did hit back. so it didn't really act as a deterrent. they were hoping for. >> that's right. so that was the 28th attack. it 27 night 28th attack. it was 27 the night before . um, sometimes these before. um, sometimes these things take time. obviously they'll be background diplomacy happening. but people also happening. but what people also need to remember is that yemen has really been a mess since 2014. the houthis aren't really

the constituted government. they sort of control the western part of the country, with another part controlled . part controlled. >> and though in a civil war with arabia as well. with saudi arabia as well. >> well, saudi arabia intervened in with the uae, to in 2015, along with the uae, to try and make sure that the houthis , which are a shia group houthis, which are a shia group and obviously the saudis are sunnl and obviously the saudis are sunni, weren't to have power and posture in that part of the world. they've actually been a problem since 2004. the houthis , problem since 2004. the houthis, when they didn't like the what they saw as a quest for sunni supremacy in yemen. it really is a complex mosaic, which most people don't understand. >> most of us are just going, oh my god, not again. i mean, we have memories. i mean, but obviously the $64,000 question here is what happens next? >> well , like here is what happens next? >> well, like all here is what happens next? >> well , like all these here is what happens next? >> well, like all these things, you're searching for outcomes and the outcome which the coalition . want is that the coalition. want is that the attacks desist and there is free. that's the best case scenario. >> that's the best case scenario and the worst case scenario is

iran threatens aid. >> a couple of weeks ago to extend what we would geographically call the theatre of war to include the closure of the states of the strait of gibraltar and therefore no flow of traffic through the mediterranean. now that might seem farcical, but there's another proxy group, which they've had since two the they've had since two in the past, is a thing called past, which is a thing called the polisario front in in morocco, which of course abuts the sort of strait of us of gibraltar. i don't think that they've got the capability to do that. they've got the capability to do that . if they were to do that that. if they were to do that through another proxy group, of course, that be construed course, that could be construed to be act of war, but an act to be an act of war, but an act of war is always a political event. it is not a legal event. >> chip, we're running out of time this time round. but you are with the are staying with me for the entire because entire show because it's fascinating. actually fascinating. so you've actually been there. you've walked the walk, you've the talk. walk, you've talked the talk. you here. you know what's going on here. and many more and i've got so many more questions need on questions i need to ask on this one. very for one. thank you very much for now, though, that is chip chapman staying chapman there, who is staying with now, the national march with me now, the national march for organised by the

for palestine, organised by the stop the war coalition and other organisations, has taken to the streets of london today calling for a permanent ceasefire in the israel—hamas conflict affecting the gaza strip . joining me now the gaza strip. joining me now live from the protest is our london reporter, lisa hartle lisa. good afternoon. right. can you bring us up to date on what's happening there and tell us exactly where you are ? us exactly where you are? >> hello. well, the protest, if i just move out the way, you can see just how many people are here. the protesters. so it started around 12:00. not long up the road, but bank. they're making their way all the way to parliament square, which is about a two march . um, now about a two mile march. um, now there's 1700 officers on duty. there's officers that have come from across the country to, um , from across the country to, um, take part to, to police this what they say is the first major protest of the year. how many people are here is really hard to determine in the police. one policeman i spoke to, he said

10,000. so the organisers say they're expecting 200,000. um but the met did say later on they may . i don't know if you they may. i don't know if you can hear this. a helicopter in the sky. we think that's the police. be able to police. maybe they'll be able to release numbers later on. but there's lot there's certainly a lot of people police people here. um, now, the police released the met police released a message this morning just saying . the right to saying that they. the right to protest is fundamental. and whilst they know the majority of people here will be lawfully and peacefully protesting, they know that there will be a minority. they say , um, that will use they say, um, that will use events like this to incite hatred and they've got a message for those people, that minority, they say anyone carrying banners that are offensive or showing that are offensive or showing that they've got support for a proscribed organisation, such as hamas , then they will be dealt hamas, then they will be dealt with. but they said they're keen to emphasise that they know the majority will be peacefully and lawfully protesting. this is the seventh major protest of this kind since the war began on the

7th of october. now those marching, they , when they do get marching, they, when they do get to parliament square , there's to parliament square, there's going to be speeches that are going to be speeches that are going to be held there. but everyone must leave by 4:30. i've been speaking to some of the protesters and they've the protesters here, and they've all said the same thing. they want the uk government to put pressure on israel and call for a ceasefire. and then one man i spoke to, he said that he just wants to see the end of a loss of lives on both sides. he said. it's just horrific what's going on and they just want to see an end this horrific situation end to this horrific situation that we've seen playing out between israel and gaza . between israel and gaza. >> uh, lisa, thank you very much. uh, lisa, we'll be continuing to cover that march 4th. that's our london porter lisa hartle. now we are going back to the situation in the red sea. now, obviously, it the two stories are linked. i mean, because the houthis claim that their actions are in support of what is going on in, in gaza, and they are both both them and

hamas are backed by iran . but hamas are backed by iran. but now joining me is former labour adviser scarlett mccgwire and the director of the common sense society, emma webb, to talk more about the obviously the biggest story of the day. um what is going on in the red sea and obviously the question we're all asking ourselves isn't it? should we get involved? simple. scarlet over to you. should we get involved ? get involved? >> i think we have to be really, really careful about what we're doing and why we're doing it. and on the surface, it seems very obvious. um, what the houthis are doing is , uh, houthis are doing is, uh, threatening the whole of world trade, right? that the by going for these boats that that they're, they're going to make everybody go around africa instead of the red sea . um, and instead of the red sea. um, and that's and then grant shapps said, you know, if you go on doing this, we're going to do something about it. uh, and, and

many of us said, well, we don't think it's going to make a difference. it was supposed to be deterrent, and clearly be a deterrent, and it clearly wasn't and bombed. but wasn't. and so they bombed. but but we do have to ask the question , are we playing question, are we playing into the hand is because the houthis hand is because actually they don't . we're now actually they don't. we're now putting them back on the world stage right after their after their coup in yemen . and they their coup in yemen. and they took on the saudis. i mean, what's interesting is they didn't beat the saudis, right? the saudis actually sued for peace. the saudis actually sued for peace . and there is a very, very peace. and there is a very, very tentative peace agreement agreement there. uh the saudis are really do not like what we're doing because we're we're threatening it. turkey uh, which is a member of nato , has accused is a member of nato, has accused us of putting blood in the reds, you know, turning the red sea red with blood . um, and now the red with blood. um, and now the houthis are back saying, see, see what we can do. we and the whole problem is that it costs us a fortune to do what we're doing. and the houthis have these tiny little drones that will just go on and there is a

question about, about about whether it's performative that we're being seen to do the right thing or whether we're actually getting where we need to get to . getting where we need to get to. >> but, emma, i mean, we had to do something because this, this waterway is so important to global trade, not to just the west. i mean, obviously it involves russia. i mean, there was a ship carrying russian oil that was a near miss last night. um, so it is globally. that was a near miss last night. um, so it is globally . we can't um, so it is globally. we can't not, um, protect the world's waterways as well. >> to scarlet's point, it would cost us a hell of a lot more if we didn't do anything at all. what supposed do? what are we supposed to do? i really dislike this argument that often gets made also with terrorism, which i mean, and this a terrorist group. let's this is a terrorist group. let's be clear about that . um, be very clear about that. um, which well, we which is that, oh, well, we don't to give them don't want to give them a platform. want draw platform. we don't want to draw attention them. don't want attention to them. we don't want to they want. the to give them what they want. the reality a reality is that this is a is a very clear situation in which the, um, coalition has, has, has

targeted specific military targeted specific military target s with the aim of neutralising the threat against the maritime um, um, crossing . the maritime um, um, crossing. um, if anybody has seen the footage of um, of what the houthis have been doing , um, to houthis have been doing, um, to those who are just simply trying to do their job, um, on ships in to do theirjob, um, on ships in the red sea, these people are terroris . it's. and i think in terroris. it's. and i think in the west, we don't have a clear understanding at large because we haven't really paid much attention to the houthis. but this has been going on for a very long time. they they're they're they are an islamist , they're they are an islamist, um, terrorist group . they are um, terrorist group. they are like the taliban. they're like hamas. um, they have ethnically cleansed , um, and, well, let's cleansed, um, and, well, let's say genocide guided, um, yemeni jews . um, they, they're, they jews. um, they, they're, they are very straightforwardly , um, are very straightforwardly, um, proxies for iran . you know, it's proxies for iran. you know, it's outrageous that you have people like diane abbott, um, doing what you would expect, people like diane abbott or jeremy

corbyn would always do, which is siding with the enemies of the west. reality is that we west. the reality is that we have choice to do this . have no choice but to do this. we have to. and yes, of course it wise steer away it is wise to, to steer away from causing escalations in the area. but you keep hearing these, um, inaccurate but false comparisons with, say, the iraq war. these are two very different things. it's a very different things. it's a very different military action. that's been taken. it's necessary . we have to do it. necessary. we have to do it. it's the right thing to do . and it's the right thing to do. and actually it should have been done scarlett, done sooner. so scarlett, i mean, same question if we didn't take action protect take these action to protect world and the waterways , world trade and the waterways, what was the alternative? >> we do have to work out >> no, we do have to work out what we're going to do. what i'm saying is, is, is this going to work? is this going to make any difference whatsoever ? and difference whatsoever? and that's what we have to think about. i mean, you know, i'm not sticking up for the houthis . sticking up for the houthis. what i'm saying is, is don't underestimate them . i mean, underestimate them. i mean, anybody who can take on the saudi regime , which is which

saudi regime, which is which they have been doing for years , they have been doing for years, which they have been doing for years, it getting years, and get it and getting and beaten by them. uh and not being beaten by them. uh they, i mean, and they have , you they, i mean, and they have, you know, they, they and they are really, really enjoying the spotlight. they can have massive demonstrations . death to the demonstrations. death to the west, death to israel . i mean, west, death to israel. i mean, there's no death to the jews. >> that's literally their slogan, isn't it? >> are i mean that i'm >> they are that i mean that i'm not anything nice about not saying anything nice about them. what saying is that them. what i'm saying is that i get slightly worried about us. you know, david cameron , with you know, david cameron, with the support of the british people , went into libya, libya people, went into libya, libya is now a complete mess. uh, what i'm saying is, is, is this what we should be doing? is this effective? and it is very interesting that the rest the rest of the countries in the region are not happy about it at all, that this is a british and american thing, that it's being quietly supported . by the

quietly supported. by the netherlands by. >> well, hang on, bahrain is part of this alliance . so that's part of this alliance. so that's just simply not true. and obviously saudis are going obviously the saudis are going to favour of it. to be in favour of it. >> the saudis are not in >> well, the saudis are not in favour are not favour of it. the saudis are not in of , what's in favour of, of what's happening they're very, happening because they're very, very worried that this is going to break this is going to break their peace deal . to break this is going to break their peace deal. right. is that actually what it is it's very easy for us, isn't it? we're over here. the americans are over here. the americans are over there. we can do it. and of course , it's escalating. what is course, it's escalating. what is going on in the region. i mean, it is it it is very, very difficult. and what i'm saying is, is that this sort of knee jerk thing of we have to do something. yes, we have to do something, but why can't we do something, but why can't we do something that is effective instead of leaving, you know , instead of leaving, you know, this, this is not going to stop the houthis from sending drones. >> i mean, just unfortunately , >> i mean, just unfortunately, we're running out of time, lady. but one very quick question on emma. you know, houthis emma. you know, the houthis slogan, the greatest.

slogan, god is the greatest. death to america, death to israel, jews. israel, and a curse on the jews. how do you negotiate with people that have those beliefs? you don't . don't. >> you can't. they don't want to negotiate . and the negotiate. and actually, the reality way that reality is, the only way that you stop from doing what you stop them from doing what they're them they're doing is to target them militarily and to take away their capacity do their capacity to do those things . things. >> w we're not w— w we're not doing it's >> oh gosh, we're not doing it's i mean, we're not doing see, we're just we're are saying we're just we're are saying we're we're doing things that do the headlines. we're not doing anything effective. that is the problem. >> oh, ladies, if we could sort it out sitting here, i'm sure we would. but unfortunately we've run out time , so we have to run out of time, so we have to move are watching move on. uh, you are watching and listening gb and listening to gb news saturday with dawn saturday with me. dawn neesom lots up on today's lots more coming up on today's show. details regarding show. uh, new details regarding the late queen elizabeth the second's final hours have been released. according to a memo written by her majesty's private secretary , she slipped in secretary, she slipped away in her sleep in a very peaceful death. of that and much more death. all of that and much more to come. i'm dawn neesom and you're watching and listening to gb channel .

isabel monday to thursdays from . isabel monday to thursdays from. six till 930. >> it is just after half past one. i'm aaron armstrong. let's get you up to date with the headunes get you up to date with the headlines from the gb news room. thousands protesters thousands of protesters are marching london marching through central london in of support for in a show of support for palestinians. it's part of a global day of action involving some 30 countries calling for a ceasefire in gaza. a demonstrators, though , have been demonstrators, though, have been warned they'll face arrest for

intentionally pushing limits intentionally pushing the limits on placards and slogans. 1700 police are on duty , many of them police are on duty, many of them from forces outside the capital. well the rally comes after the uk and us launched dozens of strikes against houthi rebels who've been attacking ships in the red sea as a show of support for gaza . the united states for gaza. the united states carried out a fresh strike overnight, targeting the group's positions in yemen. defence secretary grant shapps has warned iran to ensure its proxies cease and desist because, in his words, the world is running out of patience . is running out of patience. a former postmistress who's to stand against sir ed davey at the next general election says he must be brought to justice. the leader was the the lib dem leader was the postal affairs minister during the horizon it scandal . postal affairs minister during the horizon it scandal. he's refused to apologise to victims or take accountability for his inaction. hundreds of staff were wrongly prosecuted after faulty software led to shortfalls in their accounts . sir ed says he their accounts. sir ed says he was lied to on an industrial scale by the post office. but

yvonne tracy, whose running as an mp for kingston and surbiton , an mp for kingston and surbiton, says the constituency needs someone with integrity . someone with integrity. >> i would have loved it if we could have got a subpostmaster who'd been affected by this to stand against ed davey, but i can understand that probably their confidence is not and they probably are fed up to death with the government, etc. so i thought it's going to be me. i'm reluctantly doing it, but i feel ihave reluctantly doing it, but i feel i have to do something and this is all i can do. i think he should be brought to account and the first channel migrants of the first channel migrants of the year have arrived in dover border force intercepted a vessel carrying around 50 people this morning. >> it's the first crossing since the 16th of december, the longest period without any migrant for almost four migrant arrivals for almost four years. it's thought bad weather has deterred more people from making journey . more has deterred more people from making journey. more on all making the journey. more on all of our stories on our website, or i'll be back with more in just under half an hour's time .

just under half an hour's time. >> thank you aaron. welcome back to gb news with me, dawn neesom on your tv online and on that digital radio. now new details regarding the late queen elizabeth ii's final hours have been released. according to a memo written by her majesty's private secretary, she slipped away in her sleep in a very peaceful death. daily mail royal writer robert hardman refers to the documents in his new biography on king charles. the book also revealed that the king found out his mother had died whilst driving back to balmoral after picking mushrooms. oh, i love that . joining me now to love that. joining me now to explain what everything about the book and what happened in the book and what happened in the queen's final hours is royal broadcaster and commentator rafe heydel—mankoo . thank you very heydel—mankoo. thank you very much for coming in. always a joy to see you. sadly, no cocktails . to see you. sadly, no cocktails. we were doing cocktails together over christmas, that's over christmas, but that's another . maybe tell another story. maybe tell you one but this is on the one day. um, but this is on the front of of our front page of two of our

newspapers sun and newspapers today, the sun and the uh, queen's the daily mail. uh, queen's final simply slipped away . final. she simply slipped away. so tell us more. >> yes, it's a very moving story, which serialised in story, which is serialised in the daily mail. >> excerpts from the book by robert the veteran , uh, robert hardman, the veteran, uh, royal you say, royal journalist, as you say, which reveals really intimate details of what went on at balmoral in the hours and days before and after the queen's death . as you it records death. as you say, it records that the queen slipped away peacefully this memo and that that the queen slipped away pea the queen famously worked on these royal boxes , the documents these royal boxes, the documents of state. she had to work through, and she even had her final red box, uh, working on it from her deathbed. and indeed , from her deathbed. and indeed, after her death, her private secretary, sir edward young, opened up that final box to find

two sealed letters in there , one two sealed letters in there, one to him and one to the new king. now what's in those letters? were they a final farewell , or were they a final farewell, or were they final instructions ? were they a final instructions? who will never know. but quite remarkable . also, a day before remarkable. also, a day before her death , her majesty also her death, her majesty also tried attend a very important tried to attend a very important privy council meeting by audio link in the end, she wasn't quite up to it and they cancelled at the last minute when all the privy councillors were you were assembled. but it shows you the dedication of queen the dedication of our queen to fulfil her duties. but as you say, also , we also found out say, also, we also found out that the king was behind the wheel a when at the wheel of a car, when at the moment succession he had moment of succession he had rushed down to balmoral by helicopter to be at the queen's bedside. he spent an with bedside. he spent an hour with her majesty, then her majesty, but he was then told that the queen's death wasn't imminent. it would probably or two later. probably be a day or two later. and so, because of course, he had to a lot to clear his think about and focus his mind on. he went he to do went and did what he likes to do and go and pick mushrooms too. >> his >> i love that it's just his detail isn't it? >> yeah, it's quite a charming scene, think scene, actually, to think about

the and on his the king doing that and on his way back, his aides phone rang. he told his boss to pull to the side. the king knew what that meant, but it was when he took the from his aide and he the phone from his aide and he heard private heard the queen's private secretary as your secretary address him as your majesty, knew what had majesty, that he knew what had happened. now, the king's first thought i tell prince thought was, i must tell prince william, the new prince of wales. be next wales. he must be the next person know. phoned the person to know. so he phoned the palace switchboard. normally he would is the prince of would say, this is the prince of wales prince wales connect me to prince william. say that william. he couldn't say that this time because he couldn't allow the staff to know before prince so didn't allow the staff to know before princewhat so didn't allow the staff to know before princewhat to so didn't allow the staff to know before princewhat to say. didn't allow the staff to know before princewhat to say. so didn't allow the staff to know before princewhat to say. so dicsaid know what to say. so he said it's could it's me. that was all he could think of. luckily, they recognised voice and recognised the voice and connected him. there um, now of course, we also find out from this the true story of why harry hadnt this the true story of why harry hadn't been notified. >> say what? it is. explain what happened with the whole harry being there, not being there, where was meghan, etc. etc. so what happened was when the king rushed helicopter to balmoral what happened was when the king rush told helicopter to balmoral what happened was when the king rush told both copter to balmoral what happened was when the king rush told both of)ter to balmoral what happened was when the king rush told both of his to balmoral what happened was when the king rush told both of his sonsvlmoral , he told both of his sons to make haste to balmoral make haste and come to balmoral too , because all thought make haste and come to balmoral too queenrse all thought make haste and come to balmoral too queen had all thought make haste and come to balmoral too queen had days ll thought make haste and come to balmoral too queen had days rather ght make haste and come to balmoral too queen had days rather than the queen had days rather than

hours . hours. >> and then when he found out that the queen had died , um, that the queen had died, um, every effort was made to contact prince harry. but prince harry was in the air and flying, and they couldn't get through to him. so when the plane landed , him. so when the plane landed, the that he got was the first thing that he got was a breaking news the first thing that he got was a the breaking news the first thing that he got was a the had aking news the first thing that he got was a the had died news the first thing that he got was a the had died inzws that the queen had died in spare. he sort of implies that how cold hearted his family were, that he had to find out from media totally not true. from the media totally not true. every effort was made to contact him, it was simply the fact him, and it was simply the fact that that that he was unreachable at that time. why >> why did harry i mean, given, i mean, putting the i mean, look, putting aside the royal stuff, obviously they're incredibly privileged. we all know is this is know that. but this is this is the death of a much loved mum and grandmother. okay and they are human despite, you know, even if you don't, you know, you don't support them. they are human. a of a much human. and this was a of a much loved grandmother who as you say, done the utmost in duty say, had done the utmost in duty terms. why did harry even think about the need to put that in his book when he knew it? basically wasn't true?

>> you might well ask that question, and it's telling that the publication of spare was delayed until after the queen's death, deliberately to include new additional information. this, for example , is why prince this, for example, is why prince william didn't respond to prince harry's alleged text about travelling together to balmoral . travelling together to balmoral. when, when, when the king when prince charles, as he then was told his sons to come up, harry is have texted prince is alleged to have texted prince william travelling william how are you travelling up to which in the book, 'spare, he says my brother replied he says my brother never replied to . but of course prince to me. but of course prince harry's staff made no effort to contact prince william's staff. they've other's they've all got each other's phone . the plans could phone numbers. the plans could have but prince have been made there, but prince william well this william knew full well that this book was out any book was coming out and any interaction that they had would eventually end up being published. course, we saw published. as of course, we saw that it was i so sad. >> i mean, it's a you know, as i said, regardless of what you think of the roles, yes, they're privileged. still privileged. they've still got a load of money, etc, etc. but it's tree. it is it's a family tree. it is a family and one of the most touching moments is, of course, the princess royal by serendipity to be in

serendipity happened to be in scotland time. scotland at the time. >> she was at her mother's bedside and of course we always think of the of the princess royal being stoic , of, you royal as being stoic, of, you know, the ultimate concept of stiff upper lip. but even she broke down almost, and one of her members of staff offered her a hug. and princess royal a hug. and the princess royal said the last time that's said that's the last time that's ever happen . 1a1 moment ever going to happen. 1a1 moment when she came close to breaking down. but she she she remained with it. >> thank you. i'll give you a hug.thank >> thank you. i'll give you a hug. thank you for coming in. that's rafe heydel—mankoo royal broadcaster um, broadcaster and commentator. um, with on the with bringing up to date on the royals. uh, you're watching and listening saturday royals. uh, you're watching and liste|me. saturday royals. uh, you're watching and liste|me. dawn saturday royals. uh, you're watching and liste|me. dawn neesom turday royals. uh, you're watching and liste|me. dawn neesom lotsay royals. uh, you're watching and liste|me. dawn neesom lots more with me. dawn neesom lots more coming on today's show. so we coming up on today's show. so we will be remembering the amazing life of bbc radio one's first ever female dj , annie ever female dj, annie nightingale, who we lost this week at the age of 83. all of that and much more to come. you're watching and listening to gb news britain's news channel. put the kettle on, but don't go

>> gb news the people's . channel. >> oh, welcome back . got a treat >> oh, welcome back. got a treat in store for you. now it is our third one, 44. not that you need to know. it's a saturday afternoon chill. uh this is gb news saturday with me. dawn neesom on your tv, online. and on that, their digital radio. now on bbc one, bbc radio one's first ever female dj and igniting . gale has sadly died at igniting. gale has sadly died at the age of 83. annie was the

station's longest serving host after joining the broadcaster in 1970. she remained the only woman on the line up for 12 years. her family say she died at home after a short illness and paid tribute to her, saying she was a pioneer, trailblazer and an inspiration to many now and an inspiration to many now and i would thoroughly agree with that because we use the word trailblazer and inspiration all too easily these days. but i actually think annie was one of those women. now, joining me now is showbiz reporter stephanie takyi, is showbiz reporter stephanie takyi , who actually work at. takyi, who actually work at. yeah, in the same place as annie nightingale. >> yesterday when i heard, i literally stopped and just a flood of memories came to me when i used to work at radio 1 and one extra. we used to work in this broadcasting house called yalding house, and i remember at night time i just used to be through the used to be walking through the floors at studio used to be walking through the floo i'll at studio used to be walking through the floo i'll see at studio used to be walking through the floo i'll see annievt studio used to be walking through the floo i'll see annie nightingale and i'll see annie nightingale with glasses on, commanding with her glasses on, commanding the studios behind the decks and it was just such an inspiration

as a woman for me to see this older woman who was fabulous , older woman who was fabulous, glamorous, but totally rocking it, like just to have that voice of authority as a woman. and for so long at radio 1, she was just such an inspiration and i think what was more impressive than her was her love for music. she managed to reinvent herself, you know , in one of her interviews, know, in one of her interviews, she says, oh, when you get to a certain people certain age, people stop following pop music. and she says, continued , following says, no. i continued, following p0p says, no. i continued, following pop music, you know, pop music, she you know, introduced progressive rock, acid house, even grime . so it acid house, even grime. so it just goes there's no limit to broadcasters and female broadcasters and female broadcasters . i think jo whiley broadcasters. i think jo whiley said it great yesterday. in her tribute, she said she blazed a trail for all of us to follow . trail for all of us to follow. >> she really but it's shocking, isn't it, stephanie, that you know , she was the only female dj know, she was the only female dj there until 1982. >> it's almost like now, dawn. i couldn't manage . i can't imagine couldn't manage. i can't imagine a broadcasting world now where you've only got one woman on a station for 12 years, and you

think that is the might of doors that she opened for lots of people ? because that's something people? because that's something not to take lightly . when radio not to take lightly. when radio 1 was launched in 1967, it was an all boys club. and, you know, she went on to have a career for over 50 years. so i think for female broadcasters, it goes to show there is no age limit. you can keep on doing what you can still keep on doing what you love. it was last year she love. it was only last year she retired. i think it's to her retired. so i think it's to her credit and how hard she worked to have that career. and this is an industry incredibly obsessed with you. >> i mean, you know , we all know >> i mean, you know, we all know the stories about when bbc radio presenters get to a certain age and move sideways or just got and move sideways orjust got rid of completely by. yeah, yeah, but annie, annie smashed that. happen to annie. >> and, you know, even as you said, we shouldn't be. we don't use that word trail. we use it too much. trailblazer but she truly was a trailblazer. and i really she's not. i really hope that she's not. i know was one off in the know she was one off in the sense her career, i hope sense of her career, but i hope that be many more. that there will be many more. annie nightingales who will be allowed to have a flourishing

broadcast career. >> as she did, she set up a scholarship as well to help women into broadcasting. >> and you need that. you need that. we look that. when we look at the broadcasting world, as you said, it obsession youth , it is this obsession with youth, but looking at but we need to start looking at honing female broadcasting careers they have that careers where they can have that longevity integrity . longevity and that integrity. and it's not just about being a woman, it's about your talent and known for that. and being known for that. >> true. and we are >> that is true. and we are talking about her because she was, saying, was, as we keep saying, a trailblazing, pioneering woman. but it was also about her talent. i mean, she was the original rave granny. >> oh my gosh . when i was >> she oh my gosh. when i was working radio, we used to working in radio, we used to have outside broadcasts have so many outside broadcasts and you would see her at the radio 1 big weekends, the glastonbury , just in the field glastonbury, just in the field with of young people with lots of young people dancing it up , knowing the dancing it up, knowing the music. and like, that's how music. and i'm like, that's how you want to be when you get to your and forget this your 70s and 80s, forget this thing need to be thing where you need to be sitting no no, still thing where you need to be sittiilife no no, still thing where you need to be sittiilife and no no, still thing where you need to be sittiilife and go no no, still thing where you need to be sittiilife and go for» no, still thing where you need to be sittiilife and go for itvo, still thing where you need to be sittiilife and go for it ., still thing where you need to be sittiilife and go for it . andl thing where you need to be sittiilife and go for it . and i live life and go for it. and i think she did. and live life and go for it. and i think were she did. and live life and go for it. and i think were so she did. and live life and go for it. and i think were so manye did. and live life and go for it. and i think were so many picturesvd live life and go for it. and i think were so many pictures of there were so many pictures of her well with you know, there were so many pictures of her icons ll with you know, there were so many pictures of her icons ll 'rock. you know, the icons of rock. >> paul mccartney and >> yeah, with paul mccartney and jaggen >> yeah, with paul mccartney and jagger. stones .

jagger. the stones. >> she was very close to the beatles . like she even before beatles. like she even before john lennon's marriage was announced to oko yono , she announced to oko yono, she already knew because already knew about it because she close with them, and she was so close with them, and she was so close with them, and she just that of she just had that kind of integrity wasn't about integrity where it wasn't about kind spreading her, know, kind of spreading her, you know, celebrity friendships out there. it's respected her it's because they respected her as female broadcaster, and as a female broadcaster, and that's the main thing. and that's the main thing. and that's something that we shouldn't lightly. shouldn't take lightly. >> fine line to >> and it's still a fine line to tread. yeah. in many businesses one stephanie takyi. one would have stephanie takyi. thank for joining and thank you so forjoining on and paying thank you so forjoining on and paying a wonderful tribute there to nightingale, who we to annie nightingale, who we lost week. uh now we do lost this week. uh now we do move a global study has shown move on a global study has shown that nearly 10% of young girls took diet pills or laxatives in the past year. took diet pills or laxatives in the past year . the study also the past year. the study also showed that more than 5% of boys and under 18 had taken and girls under 18 had taken pills on laxatives or diuretics without prescription , and with without prescription, and with the intention to lose weight, experts said they were alarmed, us putting it mildly that so many children and young people have been able to access diet pills in this way, and diet pills in this way, and diet pills are often things like speed, the way, they're not

speed, by the way, they're not good you. joining me now is good for you. joining me now is health and social editor health and social affairs editor at express lucy at the sunday express, lucy johnson. what on earth is johnson. lucy, what on earth is going on here? why have we got children? because some of the children? because some of the children involved in the study are as ten, 11 years are as young as ten, 11 years old. are so obsessed with losing weight. what's going on? >> well, there's a number of things to point out. >> firstly, this study was carried out across the world, including and it takes including the uk and it takes data from decades ago. >> so the actual figures are likely to be a lot higher than how. >> now. >> um, because we know that this feeds into the problem of eating disorders and eating disorders have risen considerably over the last few years . there was a last few years. there was a massive rise during lockdown where there was an increase in both boys and girls by about 30, but it's not just about lockdown and we now have about . 75% of and we now have about. 75% of young women screening positive for eating disorders and about

50% of young men. so it's a huge problem. and we cannot underestimate the importance of social media. we've always had food since the 60s. images of skinny women, and we've aspired to that. many people have aspired to that . but actually, aspired to that. but actually, what's happening now is that teenagers and i've got teenage children are going on to social media onto tiktok, and they're seeing these unrealistic images of normal people who are promoting these body images and also sometimes promoting weight loss products as well . so at the loss products as well. so at the same time as this, we have a food industry which is promoting and marketing unhealthy junk food. it's difficult sometimes to get and or afford more healthier options . and we're healthier options. and we're kind of also stigmatise talking about obesity as being a problem. and this has created a vacuum for the drugs industry to jump vacuum for the drugs industry to jump in and exploit people. and

it is very alarming because these drugs are often, as you say , quite dangerous. and can say, quite dangerous. and can even be deadly . even be deadly. >> lucy, how have we got i mean, because we, you know, evidently we have, you know, a more body positive attitude these days. we have many clothing firms. i mean, there's a couple of fitness brands now that you know, size models and know, use larger size models and go know, use larger size models and 9° up know, use larger size models and go up to larger sizes. and we're very much told it is all about body positivity. why why is that not getting through to young girls and increasingly young boys as there's a huge disconnect between this push for body body positivity and saying that it's okay to be overweight or obese and the and what we're seeing on on social media and what we're seeing in adverts and what we're seeing in adverts and what celebrities are showing us. >> so women and many young girls believe that it is only good that you can only be attractive if you look a certain way and

they just want a quick fix and there's so there is this disconnect between on the one hand, saying you don't need to exercise, you don't need to eat well , it's okay. and exercise, you don't need to eat well, it's okay. and on the other hand , this is the only way other hand, this is the only way to look in order to, to be part of society, to be acceptable in society . and we need to change society. and we need to change it. we need to fight aid ways to get kids to be more active, to incorporate that more into their school day, to and get eating more healthily because we have so many children who are now overweight and obese and, you know, the whole thing has become a huge problem that will only get worse unless we tackle it in, in a, you know, in a variety of ways. >> lucy, thank you very much. that's lucy johnson health and social affairs editor on the sunday express there with us with a frankly horrific story. sunday express there with us witiyou'relkly horrific story. sunday express there with us witiyou're listeningic story. sunday express there with us witiyou're listening and dry. uh, you're listening and watching. gb news. al fayed watching. uh gb news. al fayed dawn neesom. lots more coming up on look . on today's show, but let's look. at the weather with jonathan,

shall we? because we're british, we do sort thing. take we do this sort of thing. take it jonathan. it home, john. jonathan. >> outlook with boxt >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar of weather on . gb news. >> hello there. i'm jonathan vautrey here of your gb news weather forecast provided by the met office. a bit of a mixed picture out there for saturday. quite cloudy skies across southern areas of england and wales, brighter breaks wales, but a few brighter breaks for areas northern ireland, for areas of northern ireland, northern the northern england to end off the day. patchy light outbreaks day. some patchy light outbreaks of rain and drizzle as well, but most of us staying dry into this overnight those overnight period. some of those clearer spells around will allow for develop for some frost to develop overnight, as as mist overnight, as well as some mist and patches . temperatures, and fog patches. temperatures, though, to on the though, where you hold to on the cloud, will be just above freezing our towns freezing. many of our towns and cities around 1 or 2 c still quite cloudy into sunday as well. for wales . central well. for wales. central southern areas of england again can't rule out some odd spots of light and drizzle. a few light rain and drizzle. a few brighter trying to poke brighter breaks trying to poke their way through for northern ireland. northern areas ireland. northern england areas of shower of scotland as well shower as though the though streaming into the far north going to

though streaming into the far n0|falling going to though streaming into the far n0|falling as going to though streaming into the far n0|falling as snow, going to though streaming into the far n0|falling as snow, evening to though streaming into the far n0|falling as snow, even to to though streaming into the far n0|fallevels snow, even to to though streaming into the far n0|fal levels ,;now, even to to though streaming into the far n0|fallevels , bringing n to to though streaming into the far n0|fal levels , bringing n to risk lower levels, bringing the risk of untreated surfaces. of ice on untreated surfaces. some winds across some very strong winds across shetland, the northern as shetland, the northern isles as well gales bringing the well severe gales bringing the risk snow around at risk of drifting snow around at times. that strong wind , times. and in that strong wind, it's be feeling very it's going to be feeling very raw as that cold air that raw indeed as that cold air that is streaming out of arctic is streaming out of the arctic is streaming out of the arctic is going push its way is slowly going to push its way across the so across all areas of the uk. so you see those blue colours you can see those blue colours covering all areas the covering all areas of the country into monday, country as we head into monday, snow showers continuing to push in from the north, primarily affecting northern scotland but also pushing northern also now pushing into northern ireland, might few ireland, and we might see a few skirting of wales, skirting the far west of wales, england, as well as parts of humberside and norfolk, head further inland. though monday looks bright and looks like quite a bright and sunny cold for all. and sunny day, but cold for all. and that cold is continuing that cold theme is continuing right next week . right throughout next week. >> that warm feeling inside died from boxt boilers . from boxt boilers. >> sponsors of weather on . gb >> sponsors of weather on. gb news. thank you very much. >> basically, it's cold, wrap up, warm . lots more coming up on up, warm. lots more coming up on today's show . the united states today's show. the united states has launched fresh attacks on houthi in yemen , as the

houthi rebels in yemen, as the rebels vowed the us and uk strikes will not go without punishment or retaliation. but what does that mean for all of us? basically all of that and much more to come. i'm dawn neesom and you are watching and listening gb news, britain's listening to gb news, britain's news .

hello and welcome to gb news satire with me. it's dawn neesom. it's bang on 2:00. not that you need to know. chill. and for chill. i'm dawn neesom and for the next hour i'll be keeping you company online and on you company on tv, online and on digital radio. keep you up to date all stories that date on all the stories that really matter to you coming up this hour , the united states has this hour, the united states has launched fresh attacks on the houthi in yemen as they houthi rebels in yemen as they the rebels vow the us and uk strikes will not go without punishment or retaliation. but what does that mean for us here in the uk ? then the met police in the uk? then the met police say around 1700 officers will be on duty to police the march for palestine today . the palestine today. the government's independent adviser on political violence and disruption , says march is disruption, says march is calling for a jihad should be arrested. uh will we see any troubles in the capital? find out whether they're live and gb news? can exclusive reveal the first channel migrants of 2024 have arrived in dover after they

were picked up by a border force vessel early this morning. will the government ever get a grip of the channel crossing migrants 7 of the channel crossing migrants ? but this show is nothing without you and your views , so without you and your views, so let me know all of your thoughts on all the stories we're talking about today and anything you want to talk about actually email gbviews@gbnews.uk . email me on gbviews@gbnews.uk. com or message me on our socials. very simple at gb news. but let's find out what the news headunes but let's find out what the news headlines are with aaron armstrong . good afternoon . arm strong. good afternoon. >> armstrong. good afternoon. >> cheers. just after 2:00 i'm aaron armstrong. thousands of protesters are marching through central london in a show of support for palestinians. some 7500 police are on duty , many of 7500 police are on duty, many of them from forces outside the caphal them from forces outside the capital. and they're warning the demonstrators they'll face arrest if they intentionally push the limit on placards and

slogans. live pictures here from central london. the rally , part central london. the rally, part of a global day of action involving 30 countries, will. the march comes after an additional attack by the united states on houthi rebels in yemen on thursday. britain and the us hit dozens of houthi targets in response to months of attacks on ships in the red sea. the iran backed group, though, has vowed to continue in solidarity with the of gaza and says the the people of gaza and says the strikes will not go unpunished. foreign secretary lord cameron says britain must do what is necessary protect its ships , necessary to protect its ships, although military analyst sean bell has confirmed uk forces weren't involved in this latest attack . attack. >> the us unilaterally did the strike last night. it's either that following yesterday , the that following yesterday, the houthis launched another missile almost as a an act of petulance, and it looks either in response to that, the us has struck this radar site or after the strikes on thursday night, battle damage assessment, they will have

looked and said, ah , one of the looked and said, ah, one of the radar is still survive the radar sites is still survive the attack and therefore they decided to use uss carney to use another tomahawk missile to actually take it out. it does seem to be a very surgical, measured response and it is a unilateral response. last night, a former . unilateral response. last night, a former. postmistress who's to stand against syria ed davey at the next general election says he must be brought to justice. >> leader was the >> the lib dem leader was the postal affairs minister during the it scandal, but has the horizon it scandal, but has refused to apologise to the victims or take any accountability for his inaction. sir ed says he was lied to by the post office on an industrial scale. hundreds of staff were wrongly prosecuted after faulty software led to shortfalls in supposed masters accounts. speaking exclusively to gb news, yvonne tracy, who's running as an mp for kingston and surbiton, says the constituency needs someone with integrity . someone with integrity. >> i would have loved it if we could have got a subpostmaster who'd been affected by this to stand against ed davey , but i

stand against ed davey, but i can understand that probably there confidence is not and they probably are fed up to death with the government, etc. so i thought it's going to be me. i'm reluctantly doing it, but i feel ihave reluctantly doing it, but i feel i have to do something and this is all i can do. i have to do something and this is all i can do . and i think he is all i can do. and i think he should be brought to account. >> meanwhile, tax experts say the post office could facing the post office could be facing insolvency up to insolvency for failing up to failing to pay up to £100 million they say the million in tax. they say the company claimed £934 million of tax relief on compensation paid to branch managers caught up in the horizon scandal. tax policy associates that's a non profit organisation, has described . the organisation, has described. the practice as outrageous and political unlawful. the post office says its financial information is appropriate and accurate. lawyer nigel hugill, who represented some of the postmasters , says they must be postmasters, says they must be held to account . held to account. >> i've got an it system that clearly was flawed, but people made decisions on the back of that , so those people need to be that, so those people need to be held to account . i think we've

held to account. i think we've seen some people come this seen some people come out this week, some high profile individuals has expressed regret individuals has expressed regret in some instances apologised, you know, gestures around handing back honours . i think handing back honours. i think the feeling within the people that i speak to is some of this is rather late in the day. it's forced . the first channel forced. the first channel migrants of the year have arrived in dover. >> a border force intercepted a vessel carrying around 50 people this morning as the first small boat crossing for some 27 days. that's the longest period without migrant arrivals for without any migrant arrivals for almost four years. bad weather may have prevented more people from making the dangerous journey . and speaking of bad journey. and speaking of bad weather, more snow and subzero temperatures expected in temperatures are expected in parts of the uk this weekend. the met office has issued yellow warnings the north warnings for much of the north of scotland. that's from midnight evening, midnight until monday evening, when temperatures drop to when temperatures could drop to as low as minus five degrees , as low as minus five degrees, and that will likely cause disruption to travel on the roads and the railways. snow is

also set to hit northern ireland on monday . also set to hit northern ireland on monday. this also set to hit northern ireland on monday . this is gb also set to hit northern ireland on monday. this is gb news. we're live across the uk on tv , we're live across the uk on tv, on digital radio and on your smart speaker two that's it from me. now it's back to dawn . me. now it's back to dawn. >> thank you very much, aaron. right, let's get straight into today's topic, shall we? now overnight, the united states launched fresh strikes against a houthi radar site in yemen following a joint operation between the uk and the us. yesterday nearly 30 houthi positions were targeted during the first wave of strikes . in the first wave of strikes. in a statement, the houthis supreme political council has vowed to retaliate, threatening the all american british interests. interests have become legitimate targets for the yemeni armed forces in yemen's capital of sanaa. tens of thousands have joined a military parade and protest in support of gaza . now protest in support of gaza. now i'm really, really pleased to say that joining me again is

former head of counterterrorism at the mod, major general chip chapman, because he's been there . he knows what it's all about. and he as can explain it and make it as simple as this situation , which is incredibly situation, which is incredibly complicated, is now, um, this is if i'm right on this, this is the first time that british forces have committed to new military action abroad since 2018. >> well, let's go back and just look at why strategy is difficult to answer that question. so in iraq, we intervened and occupied. that was a costly disaster over in libya. we intervened and didn't occupy. that was a costly disaster. yeah. in syria we didn't intervene. we didn't occupy because of a vote in parliament not to bomb. that also was a costly disaster. so you never know what decision making is right or wrong. what we have to guide us now because we have to guide us now because we did have an inquiry into the iraq invasion , is the chilcot iraq invasion, is the chilcot checklist , which came out iraq invasion, is the chilcot checklist, which came out in about six years. >> you've mentioned this. i didn't even know this was a

thing. chip. so what is this about? well, there are major about? well, there are ten major points anyone in points which anyone in government or decision makers in government or decision makers in government should really look at to their action. government should really look at to i'll their action. government should really look at to i'll th i'll just pick up three, which is important for what we might do in the next few days or few weeks . the first one is few weeks. the first one is vision. why do we care? what does this mean for british interests? and of course, freedom the navigation of the freedom of the navigation of the sea and international trade is the one. people say, the predominant one. people say, well, why the british? well, the real reason is generally that we're p5 member, permanent we're a p5 member, permanent member security member of the un security council, one of the only five that us responsibility . that gives us responsibility. the second interest is the second one of interest is scenario is what might happen . scenario is what might happen. next there's never a linear path towards an outcome. there are various things that may go in the left and right arc , you the left and right of arc, you know, will the houthis desist? will they not desist? and the final course, the most final one, of course, the most important and important one is policy and strategy. does success look strategy. what does success look like? to success this like? and to success in this case would be that the houthis are deterred ultimately, and that freedom of navigation and international trade is enabled

to flow freely and without any impeding by the houthis, which which do you think is the most likely outcome for where we are now? that's why there are scenarios door not necessarily outcomes in a linear path. i do think ultimately they will be deterred . i don't think they'll deterred. i don't think they'll be deterred yet . i think that is be deterred yet. i think that is probably likely to come from the influence of the chinese over the iranians to because of the impact on international shipping, particularly at the moment, because i think we're leading up to the chinese new year and the number of containers that are taken out of the system and the flow rates to do with the additional time of going around the cape. now talking of the shipping element of this, i mean, we i mean , at of this, i mean, we i mean, at the time that this was announced that it was happening rishi sunak the prime was sunak the prime minister was in the ukraine announcing a new aid package. >> i think it was £2.5 billion of aid to ukraine. fine. but

then the other week we had a story about how we were running down our own armed forces in particularly the navy, which is playing a huge role in what is happening now. what do you make of this? it doesn't seem to balance out and make sense. well well, there's a number of strands to that. >> firstly, of course i was in the army, would have to the army, but i would have to say rather sheepishly , say rather sheepishly, sheepishly, that navy and sheepishly, that the navy and the air force are far more important because we're an island nation than the army. so having a navy, which guarantees the freedom of navigation of international waterways is vitally important . that's the vitally important. that's the number one thing. the second one is that the raf is really important because the integrity of your airspace is fundamental. so they are more important than the army. the army is discretionary of whether you have a continental force deployed overseas or you have home defence. and there can be lots of debate about that in terms ukraine, strategic terms of ukraine, the strategic interest of russia is still to

restore, um, restore former territories and spheres of influence . it's vital that we influence. it's vital that we support ukraine because i don't think the russians would stop. they would ultimately because they look at grand strategy in centuries, go for the baltics, lithuania , latvia, estonia , lithuania, latvia, estonia, maybe even poland. although poland has invested a lot of money in the defence for the next few years, now , a lot of next few years, now, a lot of people have been getting in touch and a lot of people are worried about this. >> not not maybe. understanding is i don't, you know, the consequences and how complicated this area is. i mean, you know, these are these are disagreements being going on for thousands of years . i mean, thousands of years. i mean, basically, we're not going to sort sitting here, but sort them out sitting here, but a people are saying, why a lot of people are saying, why are involved? have we are we getting involved? have we not learned lessons from the not learned our lessons from the past ? right. past? right. >> well, that comes back >> well, again, that comes back to the fundamental question about , well, the vision thing, about, well, the vision thing, why do we and we care why do we care? and we care because it will impact people's pockets. the inflation will go up if these containers are taken

out of the system . um, if oil out of the system. um, if oil and gas, lng has to go longer routes that will impact because you've got longer routes, higher cost . it's a balance between cost. it's a balance between input and output. so we should care that reason alone. care for that reason alone. >> so from military >> so from a military perspective, with all your experience particular in the experience in particular in the middle east, this is the right thing to do. >> it's right to do something. the driver of this of the real driver of this of course, will be what the americans do. and you could see that in of number that just in terms of the number of committed . so just in of forces committed. so just in terms aircraft talking about terms of aircraft talking about strike aircraft, we committed four. the americans had 22 taking off from the ik , one of taking off from the ik, one of their carriers, to do the strikes . it will generally be strikes. it will generally be the case that 90% of the heavy lifting strike action will lifting the strike action will be the americans , where a be from the americans, where a junior partner but an important junior partner but an important junior partner but an important junior partner in political terms. because of that membership of the un security council and supporting to the american and actually , in this american and actually, in this case, not just supporting the americans , but is in americans, but what is right in terms vital interests. terms of vital interests. >> can ever see this >> can you ever see this reaching stage where there

reaching a stage where there will, to borrow a phrase from iraq before, where there will have to be boots on ground? have to be boots on the ground? >> . the ones who i could see >> no. the ones who i could see having boots on the ground, who does really impact in the does this really impact in the middle one it really middle east? the one it really impacts . now, egypt impacts is egypt. now, egypt did have in yemen between have troops in yemen between 1962 and 1970. they had 70,000 troops. there is the loss of shipping through the suez canal, 30% and the loss of revenue 40% to the egyptians, which would be their worry. if anyone needs boots on the ground, it needs to be sandals on the ground and it probably would need to be egyptian on the ground. probably would need to be egysoan on the ground. probably would need to be egyso sort on the ground. probably would need to be egyso sort it on the ground. probably would need to be egyso sort it out on the ground. probably would need to be egyso sort it out im the ground. probably would need to be egyso sort it out in thee ground. probably would need to be egyso sort it out in the area.nd. >> so sort it out in the area. um, chip chapman, thank you so much for joining um, chip chapman, thank you so much forjoining me all afternoon . shining a light on afternoon. shining a light on the mess that is the middle east. that's chip chapman, former head counter—terrorism former head of counter—terrorism at the there. and great at the mod there. um, and great to have in the studio. explain what's going on now . to have in the studio. explain what's going on now. um, to have in the studio. explain what's going on now . um, for all what's going on now. um, for all the best analysis and opinion on that story and much , much more, that story and much, much more, please go to our website, gbviews@gbnews.com. now now we move on. the first channel

migrants of 2024 have arrived in dover after they were picked up by a border force vessel earlier this morning. gb by a border force vessel earlier this morning . gb news can this morning. gb news can exclusively reveal. the border force catamaran defender arrived at dover harbour around 7 am. at dover harbour around 7 am. at gb news. kent producer counted around 50 migrants who were taken off the defender and transferred to border force processing centre in dover . processing centre in dover. joining me now is gb news political correspondent, olivia utley e to tell us more on what is going on on this story. olivia, thank you very much for joining us. um, so this is the first crossing, i think, since the middle of december. am i right ? yeah it's the first right? yeah it's the first crossing since the 16th of december. >> and that is the longest gap in migrants crossing the channel since early 2020. now now, a lot of that is put down to the bad weather that we've had over the last few weeks. obviously bad storms , which have wreaked havoc storms, which have wreaked havoc in lots of parts of the country,

including down in dover and of course , the, uh, the course, the, uh, the re—emergence of migrants crossing the channel is going to put the prime minister's rwanda bill back in the spotlight . bill back in the spotlight. you'll remember just before christmas , we might not christmas, we might not remember. i rememberjust before christmas, uh, there was the second reading of the rwanda bill, and the prime minister had a bit of a fight on his hands. there were mps on the right of his party who felt that the rwanda bill didn't go far enough, among them suella braverman , the former home braverman, the former home secretary, robert jenrick, secretary, and robert jenrick, the immigration minister. real close ally of rishi sunak, who actually stood down over the rwanda bill. what they worried aboutis rwanda bill. what they worried about is that although the rwanda bill deems rwanda a safe country in general, all individual migrants could still go to the human rights court to argue that in their own specific case, it would not be safe for them to be deported to rwanda and ultimately those mps, about 50 mp5 and ultimately those mps, about 50 mps on the right of the

conservative party, believe that that would make the bill all but useless. essentially, everyone who or almost everyone who would be deported would just take their claims human rights their claims to the human rights court. we've seen happen court. as we've seen happen time and again. meanwhile, there and time again. meanwhile, there are those on the left of the conservative party who think that the bill already goes a little too far. they little bit too far. they were prepared vote at prepared to vote for it at second reading, they warned second reading, but they warned that they wouldn't to see second reading, but they warned thatbilly wouldn't to see second reading, but they warned thatbill amendedt to see second reading, but they warned thatbill amended because see second reading, but they warned thatbill amended because they the bill amended because they don't the bill amended because they dont idea the bill amended because they don't idea of us don't like the idea of us straying to breaking straying too close to breaking international laws . rishi sunak international laws. rishi sunak has staked his premiership essentially on stopping the boats, and in his eyes, the silver bullet. to do that is with this rwanda legislation. it's going to be coming to the house of commons next week again. and rishi sunak is going to have a big fight on his hands, made worse by the fact that these crossings have resumed. 50 migrants getting off that catamaran in dover today, that catamaran in dover today, thatis that catamaran in dover today, that is a big, big headache for the prime minister going into election year.

>> uh, olivia , thank you very >> uh, olivia, thank you very much. that's olivia utley gb news political correspondent there, reporting on the first migrant boat crossing of 2024. uh, joining me now is political consultant emma burnell and gb news, host of the saturday five. coming up later, uh, darren grice to talk about . well, grice to talk about. well, again, it's a new year. we haven't had any boat crossings since the 16th of december. the storms have gone away slightly. so now the crossings are back . so now the crossings are back. um, now coming to you first on this one. emma um, the boat crossings were 36 down, 36% down last year , ignoring the bit in last year, ignoring the bit in december where the storms were probably responsible. do you think the rwanda threat is actually working even though the plan is not up and running yet? do you think the very threat of it is stopping people crossing ? no. >> okay, i could expand on that . >> okay, i could expand on that. uh i think that if you are

willing to put your life in your hands by crossing one of the world's busiest shipping channels, um, the idea of a potential future piece of legislation that is largely , um, legislation that is largely, um, deemed by most independent commentators to have very little impact. >> um, only 1 in 8, if even if it were to achieve everything that it promises, it would do something. >> i think is extremely unlikely. only about 1 in 80 people coming off a small boat would in fact be sent to rwanda. >> those odds are not going to deter people who are putting their lives in their hands to get here. >> uh, so frankly, no , i mean, >> uh, so frankly, no, i mean, as i say, i have expanded , but as i say, i have expanded, but ultimately the answer is simply no . 110. >> no. >> no. >> no. >> so 5 so darren, so 36% down >> okay, so darren, so 36% down last year. i mean, that is that is a fact. why do we think that is a fact. why do we think that is the case then. >> so look i put that entirely down to the fact that last year the weather wasn't too great. >> right? >> right? >> don't that >> right? >> don't >> i don't put that down to rishi sunak deterrent plan or rishi sunak doing anything. frankly if you ask me, dawn were doing a betterjob at policing

the red sea than we are the engush the red sea than we are the english channel. yes, and i find that absolutely extraordinary people are just so frustrated emailing in as you well know, you've got your emails right there in front of you and they're saying time time they're saying time and time again, can we not do what again, why can we not do what australia did? which is put people in unsinkable vessels that lifeboats essentially and tore them . back, push them back tore them. back, push them back because once people get here, as robert jenrick said, and robert jenrick, by the way, was one of rishi sunak closest political allies. who's allies. this isn't someone who's on the opposite side of the fence or the party. to him , and fence or the party. to him, and he's saying they get to come here and as soon as they're here they turn around and say, well, i possibly go rwanda i can't possibly go to rwanda because z. and then because of x, y, and z. and then that's are human rights that's it. they are human rights claim is dismissed outright, and that's it. they're allowed to stay in this country. so we've got to stop people coming here. that's the that's the ultimate deterrent. and we're just not willing to do that. dawn. >> so i mean that's a point. and

darren's right. emma a lot of people are saying, well, hold on a we can police a minute. we can we can police the red sea, which is obviously, you know, a long way away, but we can't police a piece water we can't police a piece of water that's doorsteps. we can't police a piece of water tha well doorsteps. we can't police a piece of water tha well , doorsteps. we can't police a piece of water tha well , i doorsteps. we can't police a piece of water tha well , i mean, steps. we can't police a piece of water tha well , i mean, we're firing >> well, i mean, we're firing missiles in the red sea, and certainly the us are. and we've beenin certainly the us are. and we've been in support of that . been in support of that. >> i don't think that's something we want to do in the middle english channel. something we want to do in the middle are english channel. something we want to do in the middle are differenth channel. something we want to do in the middle are different responses , so they are different responses, things that are required. i mean, yeah, government have mean, yeah, the government have failed to do the things that are needed. >> now. i, as someone on the more side of the more liberal side of the argument, say different argument, would say different things perhaps things are needed than perhaps darren but either darren would, but but either way, what they've found themselves is complete themselves in is, is complete stasis . stasis. >> it's where they haven't . >> it's where they haven't. pleased people. >> with my side of the argument, they haven't pleased people with darren's of argument. i darren's side of the argument. i think what's worth looking at, because we've gone over again and darren, and i've had and again, darren, and i've had this have this discussion you and i have had discussion. had this discussion. >> on this >> i've been on this channel many what >> i've been on this channel manyand what >> i've been on this channel manyand doesn't what >> i've been on this channel manyand doesn't work. what >> i've been on this channel manyand doesn't work. thinkt >> i've been on this channel manit'sj doesn't work. thinkt >> i've been on this channel manit's politically/ork. thinkt >> i've been on this channel man it's politically salienthinkt >> i've been on this channel manit's politically salient now

why it's politically salient now are two things. >> first of all, rishi sunak made certain promises in january . of last year. now, when you make a promise in january, you're expected to deliver on that promise by december. the sist. that promise by december. the 31st. resolution. 31st. it's like a resolution. >> that that's your >> we all know that that's your promise to yourself for the yeah >> and yeah » and yeah >> and don't achieve it >> and if you don't achieve it by the end of the year, you have failed that resolution. >> failed >> rishi sunak has failed that resolution. that resolution. he's failed in that promise country. promise he made to the country. >> other is, it's >> the other thing is, and it's a psychological thing, but it does have a big impact in terms of elections , is that there is of elections, is that there is a great difference between great deal of difference between a boat that arrives on the 30th of december and a boat that arrives today , because this is arrives today, because this is election and it just people election year and it just people are paying that little bit more attention because they know they'll be going to the polling station this year. darren >> that's a good point. i mean, the timing could not be worse with the rwanda bill going back before parliament this week. um, with suella with people like suella braverman not going braverman saying i'm not going to unless it's to support it unless it's tougher. the concern tougher. i mean, the concern lviv party is incredibly divided

on this . the labour party are on this. the labour party are incredibly on it. on this. the labour party are incredibly on it . they incredibly divided on it. they don't actually seem to have a policy . i mean, keir starmer is policy. i mean, keir starmer is going not going to be tough, but not exactly how, um, do exactly explained how, um, do you is actually going you think this is actually going to give more support to parties like reform? >> oh, absolutely . i mean, you >> oh, absolutely. i mean, you know, i'm not for one second suggesting that we fire missiles in the english channel, but i do think there are some that there are some i'm sure there are some that are. but do think that are. but i do think actually navy could be actually the royal navy could be involved if we involved in pushing back if we actually will do it. actually had the to will do it. i think that's something that actually had the to will do it. i entirely that's something that actually had the to will do it. i entirely that's the ething that is entirely within the government's and within the government's gift and within the house gift . if they house of commons gift. if they wanted to stop this , they could wanted to stop this, they could stop have the powers to stop it. they have the powers to do so. i am so sick, dawn, of being told that we need to respect international law . well, respect international law. well, what about domestic ability to actually control our own borders instead of this constantly saying to this activist court in strasbourg, well, we've got to listen to these guys. how about listening to the people that put their trust in you in 2019, for

their trust in you in 2019, for the very first time, millions of them. dawn. yes. voted conservative and actually said, well , you know, both conservative and actually said, well, you know, both labour and conservative were two cheeks of the same behind essentially . and the same behind essentially. and we're going to ignore the wishes of the british people. think of the british people. i think that's fundamentally dangerous for democracy. i think it's dangerous for trust in politics. i think it breeds the kind of cynicism resentment cynicism and resentment that we saw , perhaps before brexit and saw, perhaps before brexit and brexit. i think release was almost like releasing gas from a valve, because people thought, right, we're going to actually get what we voted for the first time. hasn't materialised . time. that hasn't materialised. and so i think you're right. dawn richard is probably and so i think you're right. dawn to :hard is probably and so i think you're right. dawn to be 'd is probably and so i think you're right. dawn to be laughing probably and so i think you're right. dawn to be laughing all)ably and so i think you're right. dawn to be laughing all)abljway going to be laughing all the way to he is to the ballot box, and he is targeting the party is targeting both conservatives , both labour and conservatives, as we know. >> mean , as you say, emma, we >> i mean, as you say, emma, we have gone over and over this time again . have gone over and over this time again. um, but you time and time again. um, but you know , maybe darren's got know, maybe darren's got a point. maybe, you know , the point. maybe, you know, the royal should stop these royal navy should stop these boats them to france, boats, send them back to france, which safe country which is a safe country at the end the day. which is a safe country at the encwell, e day. which is a safe country at the encwell, interesting . i was >> well, interesting. i was actually this actually having this conversation with previous conversation with your previous

guest, . is a far greater guest, um, who. is a far greater military strategist but has a greater understanding of military capability and what they can't do than i do. they can and can't do than i do. and that wasn't and he said that that wasn't really a viable option. i think, in terms of why i ask him, because i very, very much, uh , because i very, very much, uh, defer to people who understand the military far better than i do. well, australia managed it, but australia, i think i think part of the issue is that australia was sending them back to country of origin towing to country of origin and towing them country of origin. them back to country of origin. >> between >> there's a difference between towing country of towing them back to country of origin turning them back to towing them back to country of 0|different turning them back to towing them back to country of 0|different third1g them back to towing them back to country of 0|different third country. back to towing them back to country of 0|different third country. lack to a different third country. i think terms the think that in terms of the policy of royal navy capability terms of royal navy capability and whether they right option. >> emu e i was uh, i defer to >> again, i was uh, i defer to the person i just spoke to, a military expert who said it wasn't it wasn't viable . wasn't it wasn't viable. >> um, in terms of reform , um, i >> um, in terms of reform, um, i think that there will be an impact, uh, in terms of their votes with the salience of this issue, rishi sunak only has himself to blame for that by making it such a salient issue .

making it such a salient issue. um, but i think there are , uh, um, but i think there are, uh, um, questions because reform are not ever , as i say, not ever, not ever, as i say, not ever, not ever, as i say, not ever, not likely to form the next government. i think even the most optimistic supporter of reform would say that . reform would say that. >> so they can make promises that are unachievable . well, i that are unachievable. well, i and i think the problem is that that does stoke cynicism. and i would say that that's that is equally a problem of cynicism from that perspective well. from that perspective as well. >> we have to >> unfortunately, we have to move i think what we're move on. i think what we're heanng move on. i think what we're hearing much every hearing from pretty much every party promises that think party is promises that i think deep we all know none of deep down, we all know none of them actually keep . um, them can actually keep. um, right. you have to move them can actually keep. um, rigiunfortunately ave to move them can actually keep. um, rigiunfortunately uh, to move them can actually keep. um, rigiunfortunately uh, you'rele on. unfortunately uh, you're watching gb watching and listening to gb news saturday with me. dawn neesom more coming up on neesom lots more coming up on today's but first, let's today's show, but first, let's have look at the weather with have a look at the weather with jonathan, brighter outlook jonathan, a brighter outlook with boxt sponsors of with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. weather on. gb news. >> hello there . i'm jonathan >> hello there. i'm jonathan vautrey here of your gb news

weather forecast provided by the met office . a bit of a mixed met office. a bit of a mixed picture out there for saturday. quite skies across quite cloudy skies across southern areas of england and wales, a few brighter breaks wales, but a few brighter breaks for of northern ireland. for areas of northern ireland. northern england to off northern england to end off the day. outbreaks day. some patchy light outbreaks of and drizzle as well, but of rain and drizzle as well, but most staying dry into this most of us staying dry into this overnight some of those overnight period. some of those clearer allow clearer spells around will allow for some frost develop for some frost to develop overnight, well as mist overnight, as well as some mist and patches . temperatures, and fog patches. temperatures, though, on to the though, where you hold on to the cloud will be just above freezing. meanwhile towns and cities 1 or 2 c still cities around 1 or 2 c still quite cloudy into sunday as well. for wales, central southern areas of england again can't rule out some odd spots of light and drizzle . a few light rain and drizzle. a few brighter breaks trying to poke their for northern their way through for northern ireland. their way through for northern irescotland as well. showers, of scotland as well. showers, though the far though streaming into the far north scotland, are going north of scotland, are going to be snow even lower be falling as snow even to lower levels, risk of levels, bringing the risk of ice on untreated surfaces. some very strong shetland, strong winds across shetland, the northern isles as well severe bringing the risk severe gales bringing the risk of drifting snow around times of drifting snow around at times and wind, it's and in that strong wind, it's going feeling very raw going to be feeling very raw indeed. cold air that is

indeed. that cold air that is streaming out the arctic is streaming out of the arctic is slowly going to push its way across uk, across all areas of the uk, so you see those colours you can see those blue colours covering the covering all areas of the country as we head monday. country as we head into monday. snow showers continuing to push in north, primarily in from the north, primarily affecting northern scotland but also pushing northern also now pushing into northern ireland. see a few ireland. and we might see a few skirting the far of wales , skirting the far west of wales, england, as well as parts of humberside norfolk, head humberside and norfolk, head further inland, though monday looks quite and looks like quite a bright and sunny for all. and sunny day, but cold for all. and that theme is continuing that cold theme is continuing right throughout next week. >> are heating >> looks like things are heating up boxt boilers as sponsors of weather on gb news . up boxt boilers as sponsors of weather on gb news. thank you very much, jonathan. >> bit nippy out there. evidently now lots more coming up on today's show. evidently now lots more coming up on today's show . the met up on today's show. the met police say around 1700 officers will duty to police the will be on duty to police the march for palestine today . the march for palestine today. the government's independent adviser on political violence and disruption , says march is disruption, says march is calling a jihad should calling for a jihad should be arrested with all. they be arrested, though. and will we see any trouble? and see any trouble? all of that and much more to come. i'm dawn neesom watching and

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sunday mornings from 930 on gb news . news. >> hi there it is 131 i'm aaron armstrong here. 231 my apologies. in the gb newsroom, thousands of protesters are marching through central london right now in a show of support for palestinians . it's part of for palestinians. it's part of a global day of action involving

30 countries calling for a ceasefire in gaza . the ceasefire in gaza. the demonstrators have been warned , demonstrators have been warned, though they will face arrest for intent , though they will face arrest for intent, openly pushing the limit on placards and slogans. some 1700 police are on duty , many of 1700 police are on duty, many of them from forces outside the caphal them from forces outside the capital. the rally comes after the uk and us launched dozens of strikes against houthi rebels, who've been attacking ships in the red sea. the group claims it's been targeting israeli vessels as a show of support for gaza. vessels as a show of support for gaza . overnight, the united gaza. overnight, the united states carried out a fresh strike targeting houthi infrastructure in yemen. the iran backed group, infrastructure in yemen. the iran backed group , though, has iran backed group, though, has promised a strong and effective response . a former postmistress response. a former postmistress who's to stand against her ed davey at the next general election says he must be brought to the lib dem leader to justice. the lib dem leader was the postal affairs minister dunng was the postal affairs minister during the horizon it scandal. he's refused to apologise to victims or take accountability for his inaction. hundreds of staff were wrongly prosecuted after faulty software led to

shortfalls in their accounts. sir ed says he was lied to by the post office on an industrial scale. speaking exclusively to gb news, yvonne tracy , who's gb news, yvonne tracy, who's running as an mp for kingston and surbiton, says the constituency needs someone with integrity. >> i would have loved it if we could have got a subpostmaster who'd been affected by this to stand against ed davey, but i can understand that probably their confidence is not and they probably are fed up to death with the government, etc. so i thought it's going to be me. i'm reluctantly doing it, but i feel ihave reluctantly doing it, but i feel i have to do something and this is all i can do. i think he should be brought to account of the year. >> have crossed the channel and arrived in dover border force intercepted a vessel carrying around 50 people earlier. it's the first small boat crossing since december the 16th. that's the longest period without migrant arrivals for almost four years. it's thought bad weather deterred more people from making the dangerous journey . well, the dangerous journey. well, we'll have more news at the top

of the hour. or you can get more right now on our website, gbnews.com . gbnews.com. >> thank you aaron. welcome back to gb news saturday with me dawn neesom on your tv, online and on digital radio. and if you're interested, is 2:34. but why interested, it is 2:34. but why would you? it's a saturday afternoon. just chill now . the afternoon. just chill now. the national march for palestine , national march for palestine, organised by stop the war coalition and other organisations, has taken to the streets of london, calling for a permanent ceasefire in the israel—hamas conflict affecting the gaza strip. joining me now live from the protest is our london reporter, lisa hartle . london reporter, lisa hartle. lisa. good afternoon again. thank you very much for joining us.can thank you very much for joining us. can you bring us up to date on what's happening at the march? hello >> yes, well, i'm going to do my best at walking backwards because got carry because i've got to carry on walking march. walking along with the march. so we're the back march we're at the back of the march now and, they've ,

now. um, and, uh, they, they've, they started off this morning. well, 12:00, at bank in the well, 12:00, uh, at bank in the city, and they're making their way to parliament square. uh now, we were stood in one position and the it's hard to judge how many people have been involved in today's protest. if i step out the way, you might be able to see some of the banners and flags that you can see. that's constant stream that's been a constant stream when were sitting in one when we were sitting in one position. organisers when we were sitting in one positthey organisers when we were sitting in one positthey expectedvrganisers when we were sitting in one positthey expected around rs said they expected around 200,000 people to attend the protest today. i've spoken to the police and they said they're not going to speculate on numbers. perhaps later when they've to gauge they've been able to gauge exactly how many people are here, some here, they'll release some numbers, might able numbers, but you might be able to shots we're to see from the shots we're showing now it on and showing now. it does go on and on, it's so hard to be able on, but it's so hard to be able to estimate the numbers at the moment . now, 1700 police moment. now, 1700 police officers are on duty today. those officers are from the met as well as from other places around the country. because they say this is the first major protest of the year. uh, the met says, of course, they recognise that everyone has the right to

protest . that's a fundamental protest. that's a fundamental right. and they say that the majority of people here, they know will be peacefully protesting and lawfully protesting. but this morning they did have a message for what they did have a message for what they say is the minority. those people who use events this people who use events like this to incite hatred. so they said that there's a zero tolerance, tolerance when it comes to banners with offensive slogans on or any, any sign of that they say or support for proscribed organisations. say or support for proscribed organisations . they say any sign organisations. they say any sign of that and they will be dealt with. but i have just spoken to the police and they said that so far have been no arrests, far there have been no arrests, no trouble, of anything far there have been no arrests, no tthat. 3, of anything far there have been no arrests, no tthat. and of anything far there have been no arrests, no tthat. and we of anything far there have been no arrests, no tthat. and we ofvf anything far there have been no arrests, no tthat. and we of course,ing like that. and we of course, have seen the whole march, uh, protest by and we've not protest march by and we've not seen that either . seen anything of that either. now everyone's making their way to parliament where to parliament square, where there'll speeches and the there'll be speeches and the whole has to be wrapped up whole event has to be wrapped up by 5 tonight. and then by 5 pm. tonight. and then tomorrow, uh, there's a rally for, uh, in support of israel. and that's being held around trafalgar square, where police say there will be a heavy police

presence to support and cover that as well . that as well. >> quickly . police said they >> quickly. police said they anticipated , um, more people anticipated, um, more people there because of the military action in yemen . have you seen action in yemen. have you seen any placards or banners mentioning that situation at all? no i've been keeping an eye out just to see exactly what has been shared on banners and placards. >> but no, i've not seen anything , >> but no, i've not seen anything, uh, >> but no, i've not seen anything , uh, relating to that anything, uh, relating to that at all. lots of different organisations are here. um, i saw one, an unusual one, saying vegans for, uh, vegan for gaza. that was an unusual one. but lots of different organisations to , here um, to support and to, here um, to support and i did speak to some protesters earlier. i don't know if we've got the protesters to that we can throw to at all, but i did speak to some protesters earlier and they all said the same thing. to , just to, thing. they're here to, just to, uh, want to an end to uh, they want to see an end to the innocent lives that are being both and being lost on both sides. and they uk government being lost on both sides. and theypressure uk government being lost on both sides. and theypressure on k government being lost on both sides. and theypressure on and, yernment being lost on both sides. and theypressure on and, and nent being lost on both sides. and theypressure on and, and to tl put pressure on and, and to just, just see an end to this

conflict. i think we might be able to hear from some of the protesters actually, we're protesters now actually, we're showing for the showing our support for the people of palestine and gaza and west bank. >> um, what's happening is atrocious . there's too many war atrocious. there's too many war crime, international war crimes being committed . no one's saying being committed. no one's saying anything. and we're just here to show our support and show the people that show the governments that the people don't actually stand for what their supporting. >> both. stand for what their supporting. >> they're as bad as each other. >> you're killing in end . >> you're killing in the end. you're other. you're just killing each other. and the holy and it's in the in the holy quran kill one person. you've quran to kill one person. you've killed the whole mankind . killed the whole mankind. >> so that's how faith is. >> so that's how my faith is. >> so that's how my faith is. >> kill anyone. >> don't kill anyone. >> don't kill anyone. >> is at least we can do to >> this is at least we can do to support the people you know in palestine , in gaza, especially palestine, in gaza, especially all these kids dying, you know , all these kids dying, you know, no food, no water, no electricity. >> you know, so bare minimum we can do is at least show our support for them . support for them. >> now, this is the seventh major protest that we've seen

like this. taking place in london since the war began . and london since the war began. and it's also part of a global day. uh, where around 30 countries around the world are showing their support for gaza, calling for an end to the fighting . for an end to the fighting. >> lisa, thank you very much . >> lisa, thank you very much. that's. uh lisa hartle. our london reporter covering the march for palestine taking place through the centre of london today. uh, thankfully , so far, today. uh, thankfully, so far, remarkably peacefully . uh, you remarkably peacefully. uh, you are watching and listening to gb news saturday with me. dawn neesom lots more coming up on today's show. uh, yet the weather, more snow and freezing temperatures are on the way as a blast of cold weather from the arctic moves in the met office has warned of an increasing chance of wintry hazards in the coming days, before parts of the country can expect snow next week. all of that and much more to come. you're watching and listening to gb news britain's news channel

isabel monday to thursdays from 6:00 till 930. >> welcome back to gb news saturday with me dawn neesom on your tv, online and on digital radio. now i hope you had time to make a nice hot cup of tea dunng to make a nice hot cup of tea during that break because more snow and freezing temperatures are on the way a blast of are on the way as a blast of cold weather from arctic cold weather from the arctic moves the met office has moves in the met office has warned of an increasing chance of hazards in the coming of wintry hazards in the coming days, before parts of the country can expect snow next week. now joining me now is

week. um now joining me now is weather journalist week. um now joining me now is weatherjournalist and expert weather journalist and expert and complete all round good egg with gorgeous ties. nathan rao. uh, nathan . thank you. it's. uh, nathan. thank you. it's. love the tie. love the tie . so love the tie. love the tie. so we don't need weather forecast. we can just look at your ties. >> basically. no christmas >> basically. no not christmas for to write >> basically. no not christmas forand to write >> basically. no not christmas forand say to write >> basically. no not christmas forand say it's to write >> basically. no not christmas forand say it's too to write >> basically. no not christmas forand say it's too for write in and say it's too late for christmas. >> w- w— >> it's the snow. yes but you can keep christmas decorations going beginning of going until the beginning of february. found that going until the beginning of feb from found that going until the beginning of feb from diamond ound that going until the beginning of feb from diamond onvd that out from anne diamond on breakfast this morning. nathan yeah, it's going to get cold. it is my ignorance, is now. forgive my ignorance, but it's of winter. it is. but it's kind of winter. it is. >> expect right now . >> expect right now. >> expect right now. >> the last time i saw you, you wanted snow for christmas, and we it . now we didn't really get it. now hold on your hat, because we hold on to your hat, because we are going to get snow and we're probably going to get a lot of it. the jaws it. okay. you're right. the jaws of the arctic have opened and we are right in the firing line of an arctic blast. now, what's going to be happening over the next couple of days is today and tomorrow. think across tomorrow. i think people across the are going to the entire country are going to start noticing the chill, because this is when that cold northerly is going to come

northerly blast is going to come right down through scotland and over the whole country. there will in scotland will be some snow in scotland and northern over the and northern ireland over the weekend. the met office are saying it could quite weekend. the met office are sayingand it could quite weekend. the met office are sayingand that it could quite weekend. the met office are sayingand that could ld quite weekend. the met office are sayingand that could be quite te heavy and that could be quite disruptive mountains, disruptive over the mountains, quite a lot of it. but even to lower levels it's quite disruptive now, going into next week. this is what everybody is looking because when looking at because this is when the could more the snowfall could become more widespread . and there are two widespread. and there are two things happening around tuesday. there low coming in from there is a low coming in from the west, which could bring some snow, bring some snow snow, which will bring some snow around northern central england. we don't know exactly where yet. they never do. it's very difficult pinpoint where then difficult to pinpoint where then going into the week going further into the week about wednesday, there is another that's going to come another low that's going to come in from south this could in from the south and this could bnng in from the south and this could bring and the bring snow and rain to the south. this weekend, south. so really this weekend, going into next week, it is time to brace yourselves for snow, possibly anywhere . okay. possibly anywhere. okay. >> and how low are the temperatures going to go? is it going to be really, really cold? >> i mean, this really >> yeah. i mean, this is really cold. minus in cold. we had minus eight in braemar night that braemar last night and that obviously of scotland. these

highlands of scotland. but these are temperatures are the sorts of temperatures we're talking about during the day wow . low day further south. oh wow. low single freezing. single figures freezing. i wouldn't surprised overnight. wouldn't be surprised overnight. certainly the certainly freezing into the north. we've had —1015 is not unusual. north. we've had —1015 is not unusual . in the valleys and the unusual. in the valleys and the hills of scotland. and i would expect, as i say, that's normally expect, as i say, that's noryeah. it's snowing. >> yeah. it's snowing. yeah, of course scotland course it's in scotland and it's on mound. course it's in scotland and it's on yeah|ound. course it's in scotland and it's on yeah .vund. course it's in scotland and it's on yeah . ind. course it's in scotland and it's on yeah. i mean course it's in scotland and it's on yeah . i mean those parts >> yeah. i mean in those parts of country, the country, of the country, of the country, they're those low, they're going to see those low, low, even low, low temperatures. but even to in the to the, to the south in the cities very, very cold. we cities it's very, very cold. we saw the met office talking about the saw big blue the map, and we saw the big blue plume coming down from the arctic . we are right in that arctic. we are right in that firing line of arctic air. so it is going feel cold. it's is going to feel cold. and it's also pointing out there is also worth pointing out there is also worth pointing out there is a health security agency a uk health security agency health alert place all week . health alert in place all week. and that is really when things get very, very, very it's get very, very, very cold. it's a look for a warning to look out for elderly people, neighbours, a warning to look out for elderly youyle, neighbours, a warning to look out for elderly you knowzighbours, a warning to look out for elderly you know ,;hbours, a warning to look out for elderly you know , it'syurs, a warning to look out for elderly you know , it's it's, a warning to look out for elderly you know , it's it can people, you know, it's it can have health implications. >> okay. so how unusual >> right? okay. so how unusual i know we always ask this. i mean everyone's going look, it's winter, it's cold, it's , you winter, it's cold, it's, you know, it might snow. this is what happens in winter in this country. unusual is it?

country. but how unusual is it? because have we do seem because we have we do seem to have incredible low have had incredible low temperatures. you know, even down the down in london and the south—east. down in london and the souyeah. st. down in london and the souyeah. it's not that unusual. down in london and the so fact,1. it's not that unusual. down in london and the so fact, it's�*s not that unusual. down in london and the so fact, it's more that unusual. down in london and the so fact, it's more usualinusual. down in london and the so fact, it's more usual to sual. down in london and the so fact, it's more usual to get. in fact, it's more usual to get snow at this time of year. and even going forward into february and march than it to get and even march than it is to get it and december. it in november and december. in fact, serves fact, i think my memory serves me correctly. i think we did get a a very, very cold a we got a very, very cold penod a we got a very, very cold period november, period in november, and we've got flurry of snow got a slight flurry of snow last, last week. it's really last, last week. but it's really at of year, january at this time of year, january going february, that it's not going to february, that it's not unusual. what seeing unusual. and what we're seeing with the disruptive snow next week that met office are week that the met office are really warning about is when you get the combination of that very, cold arctic air that very, very cold arctic air that comes down, sits itself over the uk , and then you get a low uk, and then you get a low coming in from the west that's laden with moisture and slightly milder. the two come together and that is where you get snow and that is where you get snow and that's what we're looking at. and that's not uncommon for this time of year. i mean i can't sit here and go, oh my goodness. it's never seen anything before my goodness. it's never seen anyt it's| before my goodness. it's never seen anyt it's not before my goodness. it's never seen anyt it's not uncommon. my goodness. it's never seen anyt it's not uncommon. but life. it's not uncommon. but that said , we're not terribly

that said, we're not terribly goodin that said, we're not terribly good in this country at dealing with snow. when it comes. so given the widespread and prolonged nature of it, i'd prepare for disruption right? >> okay. across the country, thank much. i'm not thank you very much. and i'm not going to you because i know going to ask you because i know you me, one you won't tell me, but one word long, summer. yes. long, hot summer. yes. >> no, i actually thought you're going to ask me about white christmas yes. christmas next year. no yes. >> even. not glad. >> e'- el.- e'- >> long hot summer. um, do you know what anything could happen. watch you watch this space. i'll tell you next time just a ties next time i just watch a ties coming little suns on coming with one little suns on it . it. >> nathan. well, thank you very much and talking much for coming in and talking about, winter , right about, um, winter, uh, right now, scottish first minister about, um, winter, uh, right now, yousaf sh first minister about, um, winter, uh, right now, yousaf has'irst minister about, um, winter, uh, right now, yousaf has announced r humza yousaf has announced scotland will ban xl bully dogs just days after the new laws were rolled out across england and wales. um, speaking at first minister's questions this week , minister's questions this week, yousaf confirmed the decision to replicate the dangerous dogs act in england will take place soon. he also revealed that there had been an influx of the dangerous dogs brought north of the border, joining me now is the editor of dogs today magazine,

beverly cuddy . uh, beverly, beverly cuddy. uh, beverly, thank you so much for joining. beverly. can you just explain what's been happening with the people are taking the xl bully dogs to scotland . dogs to scotland. >> i think there's been a lot of panic generally . um, because panic generally. um, because the, um, change to the dangerous dogs act was so rapid. um there wasn't really enough time for people to find suitable homes for the dogs that were in rescue . um, there were last minute changes made that were very, very badly, um, communicated . so very badly, um, communicated. so there was this feeling that, um , there was this feeling that, um, yeah, if they didn't do something, dogs would be killed that would possibly be able to find lovely homes if enough time was given . so there was a lot of was given. so there was a lot of talk of dogs moving to scotland to get out of this. this extremely rapid and far reaching ban. and there were even people who were looking at relocating to scotland because they wanted a better life for their dog,

where they wouldn't have to live forever on a lead with their dogs muzzled. but i think the media, in that lull between christmas and new year, perhaps did a disservice to the efforts of these people who were trying to rescue these last few dogs . to rescue these last few dogs. and i think the ministers in scotland got a little bit scared . and unfortunately, they've done what the ministers in london have done. they've reacted to the media and not to the facts , and we've ended up the facts, and we've ended up with the same thing happening in scotland that is happening in in england and wales , which is england and wales, which is regrettable because it's all the experts are united and saying that what the government is doing is not going to make anyone any safer. >> so , i mean, what do you think >> so, i mean, what do you think is going to happen to the dogs that that have been taken to scotland ? i mean, know, lots scotland? i mean, you know, lots of people are abandoning of people are just abandoning their , which which their dogs, which is which is horrible . horrible. >> there's not really as much of that going on as as it feels

like it. as far as i can see there, there's someone trying to set a sanctuary up in scotland . set a sanctuary up in scotland. they may change their minds now, if the law is going to change there as well, they might perhaps look doing that perhaps look at doing that somewhere reality somewhere else. um, in reality there have been a few dogs homed north of the border . um, but the north of the border. um, but the ban on on this type of dog, it's not the xl bully is, is a really vague description of what a dog can be. so they're not dangerous dogs per se. they have just been labelled inaccurately by our government as being all dangerous because they look a certain way. we wouldn't do that to people . we wouldn't suddenly to people. we wouldn't suddenly 9°, to people. we wouldn't suddenly go, oh, all terrorists look like this. so everyone is banned. we've done that with dogs. the science isn't there to back it up . we're having to live with up. we're having to live with a government that wants to be popular. doing what it thinks the electorate wants and ignonng the electorate wants and ignoring all the vets . all the

ignoring all the vets. all the charities that do rehomed . all charities that do rehomed. all the experts are learning about dogs being completely ignored . dogs being completely ignored. and so we've ended up with a knee jerk piece of legislation. now, , the scottish now, unfortunately, the scottish are because of a are joining in with because of a few headlines. there was a horrible case in scotland of a dog that probably had found its home. um, after being unwanted somewhere else where some absolutely horrible person fed the dog drugs , tortured it, the dog drugs, tortured it, killed it, left it outside, probably set fire to it because that got a huge amount of coverage and a load of vigilantes. then tried to find that person . it was then that person. it was then discussed in the scottish parliament, which gave them the impression that they were being besieged by unwanted , dangerous besieged by unwanted, dangerous dogs, where in fact it was just we can get awful people all over britain behaving absolutely abhorrently. >> beverly . sorry. >> beverly. sorry. unfortunately, beverly , unfortunately, beverly, unfortunately, we're running out of time. my lovely. thank you so much us today. much for joining us today. that's beverly cuddy , editor of

that's beverly cuddy, editor of dogs today magazine with frankly horrific story about what's happening to some of those xl bully dogs . well, that's it from bully dogs. well, that's it from me for today . but don't you dare bully dogs. well, that's it from meanywhere . but don't you dare bully dogs. well, that's it from me anywhere because n't you dare bully dogs. well, that's it from meanywhere because at you dare bully dogs. well, that's it from meanywhere because a very dare go anywhere because a very lovely is up next, lovely nana is up next, resplendent in sort of tonally and tonally red. we've got the murderer . and tonally red. we've got the murderer. what's coming up on your amazing show? nana >> well, we have we're going to be speaking to somebody who actually the front be speaking to somebody who actu iny the front be speaking to somebody who actu in israel. the front be speaking to somebody who actuin israel. so the front be speaking to somebody who actu in israel. so we'll front be speaking to somebody who actuin israel. so we'll bent line in israel. so we'll be speaking about what's speaking to him about what's going organising going on. he's organising tomorrow's he's one of tomorrow's march. he's one of the , plus the usual the organisers, plus the usual jim and also paul burgess jim dale and also paul burgess for their climate control. they'll a little bit of they'll have a little bit of a scrap, discussing scrap, but we'll be discussing apparently hottest apparently it being the hottest year record . year on record. >> yeah. and all of that kind of stuff. and my monologue is on ed davey v ed davey can't wait to hear that one. so you've been watching and listening to gb news dawn neesom, thank watching and listening to gb nevvso dawn neesom, thank watching and listening to gb nevvso for)awn neesom, thank watching and listening to gb nevv so for joiningeesom, thank watching and listening to gb nevvso forjoining me.n, thank watching and listening to gb nevvso forjoining me. i'm1ank you so much forjoining me. i'm back tomorrow, but don't you dare because is dare go anywhere because nana is up sir ed up next talking about sir ed davey. uh, but let's go back to the weather and see what it is doing with jonathan. thank you very much for watching, and i'll see tomorrow . bananas.

see you all tomorrow. bananas. next . next. >> a brighter outlook with boxer , the sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> hello there. i'm jonathan vautour. here with your gb news weather forecast provided by the met office. bit of a mixed picture there for saturday. picture out there for saturday. quite cloudy skies across southern england and southern areas of england and wales, but a few brighter breaks for of northern ireland, for areas of northern ireland, northern england off northern england and off the day. patchy light outbreaks day. some patchy light outbreaks of drizzle well , but of rain and drizzle as well, but most staying dry into this most of us staying dry into this overnight of those overnight period. some of those clearer around will allow overnight period. some of those cle some around will allow overnight period. some of those cle some to und will allow overnight period. some of those cle some to develop allow for some frost to develop overnight, as well as some mist and patches . temperatures, and fog patches. temperatures, though, to on the though, where you hold to on the cloud, be just above cloud, will be just above freezing. towns and freezing. many of our towns and cities around 1 or 2 c. still quite cloudy into sunday as well for wales . central southern for wales. central southern areas england again . can't areas of england again. can't rule some odd spots light rule out some odd spots of light rain and drizzle. brighter rain and drizzle. a few brighter breaks trying to poke their way through for northern ireland, northern well . showers,

scotland as well. showers, though streaming the far though streaming into the far north , are going north of scotland, are going to be snow to lower be falling as snow even to lower levels , bringing the of ice levels, bringing the risk of ice on surfaces. very on untreated surfaces. some very strong shetland, strong winds across shetland, the northern isles as well severe gales bringing the risk of times of drifting snow around at times . in strong wind, it's . and in that strong wind, it's going very raw going to be feeling very raw indeed. that cold air that is streaming of the arctic is streaming out of the arctic is slowly to push way slowly going to push its way across so across all areas of the uk, so you can see those blue colours covering areas of the covering all areas of the country. we head monday . country. as we head into monday. snow showers continuing push snow showers continuing to push in the north, primarily in from the north, primarily affecting but affecting northern scotland but also into northern also now pushing into northern ireland, and we might see a few skirting of wales, skirting the far west of wales, england, as well as parts of humberside and norfolk, head further monday further inland, though monday looks like quite a bright and sunny , but cold for all, and sunny day, but cold for all, and that cold theme is continuing right throughout next week. that warm from boxt warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on . boilers sponsors of weather on. gb news. >> i'm andrew doyle. join me at 7:00 every sunday night for free speech nation, the show where i

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