day. well, it will put the cat among the pigeons, won't it.7 do you think it was the right move or not.7 and speaking of reform, i've got to say i was quite interested to see the way other broadcasters introduce that press conference. >> you press conference. >> you are press conference. >> you are seeing >> listen, you are seeing pictures from the preparations for press conference from the for a press conference from the reform party of great britain. there, the union jack being rather a giveaway as to what they think about things .7 what is they think about things? what is this snobbery about when it comes down to our flag? what is wrong with being proud of our great nation? you tell me that also today the government has

announced that £117 million will be provided in security funding for uk muslims and 70 million as well of the same for jewish communities . how on earth has communities. how on earth has all of this become necessary and is this money the answer to current tensions ? also as well, current tensions? also as well, rishi sunak wants to eventually scrap national insurance in full. how's he going to fund that? well, by reducing the amount of money we spend on benefits. does that sound like a goodidea benefits. does that sound like a good idea or not? and have you seen this? well how could you have missed it? quite frankly, people losing their minds people are losing their minds over royal photograph. who over this royal photograph. who on in this day and age on earth in this day and age doesn't edit their photos? you tell me . we're going to get tell me. we're going to get stuck into all of that over the next hour with quentin letts and aaron bastani. but before we do, let's cross live for tonight's latest news headlines .

latest news headlines. >> michelle. thank you. the top stories from the gb newsroom . stories from the gb newsroom. lee anderson says he would still have defected to the reform uk party, even if he hadn't been suspended from the conservative, as he became the party's first mp this morning after he lost the tory whip for claiming that islamists had got control of the london mayor. polls suggest around 30% of voters support reform as recently as january, mr anderson said it was not a proper political party. he now says reform will allow him to speak out on behalf of millions . speak out on behalf of millions. >> what i think this reveals is the sheer chaos in the conservative party, a government divided from top to bottom, and rishi sunak too weak to exert any authority and a divided government cannot govern in the interests of the country. i think people have had enough of this. and after 14 years of failure, this proves once again that it failure, this proves once again thatitis failure, this proves once again that it is time for change. >> shadow paymaster general jonathan ashworth there. well, shortly after mr anderson's

defection to reform was announced today , gb news asked announced today, gb news asked people in his constituency of ashfield how they feel about his decision to join the party. >> he's probably doing it to save his own bacon, to be honest , because the people around here would probably vote for reform , would probably vote for reform, so that's probably all he is doing it. it speaks truth and that's said a lot of people don't like that. so. >> well, i think it's very nice and i don't have any issues about him at all. >> well, i mean, it's not my prerogative what lee anderson does, but i think that it would suit his views more than the conservative party. and he's tried the labour party already . tried the labour party already. so yeah, i think, i think it's for him maybe not for ashfield, but yeah, i think it's, that's his lane . his lane. >> two other news, the princess of wales has apologised for an altered family photo released by kensington palace. posting to social media she admitted that like many amateur photographers, she occasionally experiments with editing, adding she was

sorry for any confusion it caused the mother's day image taken by the prince of wales was withdrawn by various global photo agencies after suspicions that a number of edits may have been made . an aristocrat accused been made. an aristocrat accused of neglecting her newborn baby, leading to her death, told a court today that she'd planned to pay someone to smuggle the child overseas. 36 year old constance marten went on the run with her partner mark gordon, who's 49, in an attempt to keep their baby after four other children were taken into care, miss martin said she and her partner had planned to smuggle themselves abroad, evading a ban on her leaving the country. their child, who was named victoria , died while they were victoria, died while they were on the run from police camping in wintry conditions on the south downs near brighton last yeah south downs near brighton last year. both defendants deny the charges against them and the case is continuing . case is continuing. nottinghamshire police has been told by a watchdog that it must urgently produce an improvement

plan after it was put into special measures. the families of barnaby webber and grace o'malley, cooma, welcomed the news. the two teenagers and school caretaker, ian coates , school caretaker, ian coates, died during a spate of knife attacks in nottingham last year. the force has been asked to improve how it manages and carries out effective investigations, and to put measures in place to ensure victims get the support they need. victims get the support they need . the energy regulator, need. the energy regulator, ofgem , is looking at ways to ofgem, is looking at ways to protect consumers from spiralling costs amid a record number of unpaid bills around £3.1 number of unpaid bills around £31 billion of debts are piling £3.1 billion of debts are piling up as concerns grow over the high cost of household bills . high cost of household bills. it's after the price of energy in an average british home hit more than 3500 pounds a year last october. donald trump will not give any money to ukraine's effort to fight russia if he wins the next election in november. that's according to the hungarian prime minister. viktor orban met his longtime

ally in florida on friday. he said the former president's claim that the war would end within 24 hours of his re—election is true because, he said it was clear ukraine couldn't win without us support. leaders across the european union are concerned that a trump presidency could lead to an escalation in the conflict . now, escalation in the conflict. now, passengers on board a flight from australia to new zealand endured a terrifying mid—air moment when the plane unexpectedly dropped. 50 people were injured, with witnesses described chaos inside the cabin, saying some were thrown into the ceiling with enough force to break roof panels . 12 force to break roof panels. 12 passengers were taken to hospital when the flight landed in auckland, with one in a serious condition. the boeing 787 sudden loss in altitude is still being investigated, latam airlines says. a technical event caused the sudden movement dunng caused the sudden movement during the flight. caused the sudden movement during the flight . and the queen during the flight. and the queen has joined the prince of wales

at westminster abbey for today's commonwealth day service. they're among the senior royals who are gathering for this year's event, which draws on the theme of resilience against a backdrop of health worries in the family. though he'll miss today's service, the king reaffirmed his commitment to the 56 member countries in a video message . message. >> as i've said before, the commonwealth is like the wiring of a house and its people are energy and our ideas are the current that runs through those wires together and individually. we are strengthen by sharing perspectives and experiences. my belief in our shared endeavours and in the potential of our people remains a sure and strong as it has ever been . as it has ever been. >> for the latest stories, you can sign up to gb news alerts by scanning the qr code on your screen or you can go to gb news complex. now back to . michelle.

complex. now back to. michelle. >> thanks very much for that. tatiana i've got to say, you flipped my stomach there with that. those images of that plane. can you imagine being on that plane? i don't think i'd ever want to fly ever again, that old chestnut of technical problems. can you imagine? anyway, look, i'm pleased that everybody safe anyway. and, everybody was safe anyway. and, michelle dewberry, you michelle dewberry, i'm with you till i've got till 7:00 tonight. i've got alongside the parliamentary alongside me the parliamentary sketchwriter for the daily mail, quentin letts and the co—founder of media, aaron bastani. of novara media, aaron bastani. welcome back, gentlemen. of novara media, aaron bastani. weitechnicalk, gentlemen. of novara media, aaron bastani. weitechnical event. lemen. of novara media, aaron bastani. weitechnical event. that's what >> technical event. that's what they called. it wasn't a technical event. >> can you imagine that poor passenger that was the floor? passenger that was on the floor? i honestly don't think i honestly just don't think i would dare step foot on would ever dare step foot on a plane. i think what you'd have to just get to do, though, is just get straight a different straight back on a different one. on. don't one. straight on. don't even come out the airport. don't come out of the airport. don't even even leave. don't even don't even leave. don't even don't even leave. don't even home. just get straight even go home. just get straight on the plane, wherever it's going. >> ask for drinks trolley to >> ask for the drinks trolley to come again. come round again. >> your fear. any >> go conquer your fear. any planned stories you want to share with us, aaron?

>> absolutely all, i'm >> absolutely none at all, i'm afraid. good. >> well, i'll get on with the rest shall you rest of the show, shall i, you know on program. know the drill on this program. it's about austria. it's not just about austria. it's not just about austria. it's about you guys at home as well. can in touch with well. you can get in touch with me all the usual ways. gb views at gb news. com you can tweet at gb news. com or you can tweet or me at gb news. what? or text me at gb news. what? i always say there's never dull always say there's never a dull moment politics at moment in british politics at the it? it certainly the moment, is it? it certainly keeps locked in a job, keeps us locked in a job, doesn't it, and did you see the story today, lee anderson has defected, to reform defected, of course, to reform uk. saw that coming, anyone uk. who saw that coming, anyone out there? ask sarcastically. out there? i ask sarcastically. anyway, let's have a listen to what had say . what he had to say. >> when did he decide to join the reform party ? you did say, the reform party? you did say, didn't you? back on the 2nd of january, i think, on gb news that reform was not the party for it was opening a door for you. it was opening a door to well, things to keir starmer. well, things have changed. >> moved on. >> things have moved on. choppen >> things have moved on. chopper, then. we saw the chopper, since then. we saw the we last george galloway we saw last week george galloway entering which entering parliament, which frightens and lot frightens me to death and a lot of mainstream across the of mainstream people across the country. he's country. that's scary. he's mobilising of mobilising the rest of parliament seem be parliament seem to be sleepwalking disaster, not sleepwalking into disaster, not prepared up and fight, prepared to stand up and fight,

fight against threat. fight back against this threat. so, know, reform party so, you know, the reform party often economic policies as often sound economic policies as well as sticking up for this great of ours, you know, great country of ours, you know, and said time time and i've said time and time again, chopper, i want is my again, chopper, all i want is my country back. i want to be able to feel safe. and family and to feel safe. and my family and friends safe walking the friends feel safe walking the streets. i want these demonstrations of demonstrations on the streets of london. that london. stop these idiots that are know, these yobbos are out. you know, these yobbos that shouting murderous, you that are shouting murderous, you know, streets of know, things on the streets of london. need to be locked london. these need to be locked up. all and good, you up. it's all well and good, you know, strong words know, spouting out strong words from downing street from the steps of downing street and the chamber. but and in in the chamber. but people want action. they want to see action. want to see see action. they want to see this stop. they want want this stop. they want they want our country back. >> you want country >> do you want your country back? get in touch and let me know. i'm running x or know. i'm running an x or twitter whatever you want know. i'm running an x or twcall whatever you want know. i'm running an x or twcall it whatever you want know. i'm running an x or twcall it on whatever you want know. i'm running an x or twcall it on there. ever you want know. i'm running an x or twcall it on there. let you want know. i'm running an x or twcall it on there. let me want know. i'm running an x or twcall it on there. let me know to call it on there. let me know whether you think lee anderson was right to make that move to reform not. quentin letts, reform or not. quentin letts, what say to all of that? what do you say to all of that? >> was really about >> i think this was really about mr anderson trying save his mr anderson trying to save his seat, suspect he's looked seat, and i suspect he's looked at the opinion poll findings, which are, suggest labour's which are, suggest that labour's well ahead his seat and he

well ahead in his seat and he may be able get few voters may be able to get a few voters from be the real, from labour. he may be the real, really interesting about really interesting thing about a move like this is will he be able to ignite? will he be able to in people who otherwise to pull in people who otherwise weren't i think weren't going to vote? i think that might be a lot of it. so i think it's really lot of it think it's really a lot of it will to do about lee anderson will be to do about lee anderson himself about his own himself thinking about his own prospects. you have to say prospects. but you have to say how the conservative how stupid the conservative party were effectively party whips were to effectively try discipline him and try to discipline him and basically out. what basically force him out. what a ham fisted operation was. ham fisted operation that was. and to that and also listening to that speech anderson gave speech that, mr anderson gave today, was actually a bit today, it was actually a bit like listening to rishi sunak on the steps of downing street. there's little between what there's very little between what he today what sunak he said today and what sunak said. was it two weeks ago? so i think this mainly it's to do with his personal electoral fortunes him thinking i'm fortunes and him thinking i'm more likely to hold the seat if i fight it for reform rather than for the conservatives. >> where are you on it, aaron ashfield is a fascinating constituency because you have the independents the ashfield independents once, and they a parliamentary and they had a parliamentary candidate jason zadrozny. candidate called jason zadrozny. >> jason, if i've >> sorry, jason, if i've mispronounced and they came

mispronounced that and they came second in 2019, they got 27% of the vote. they've got 32 out of 35 councillors. i think on the district council . so it could be district council. so it could be a four way seat at the next election . you could have the election. you could have the conservatives even finish fourth, i would put a punt on the ashfield independents winning , but who knows? i think winning, but who knows? i think you're absolutely right that the calculus here is that he's just trying to basically keep his political skin. i don't think it'll be enough. >> do you think, if an mp is not just about lee anderson? this is a more general point. do you think if any mp essentially defects different party, defects for different party, they that should they should that should automatically by—election? i think if they're decent >> i think if they're a decent and they and honourable person, they they should that's should feel like that's the right do. how you right thing to do. how you compel them to do that, i don't know, i certainly think it should be the case. but look, i've just used word decent i've just used the word decent and honourable. that's not something many something we apply to many politicians these days. >> the trouble with >> yeah, but the trouble with that first all, it's not. that is, first of all, it's not. it's not the way that our system is up. we elect the person is set up. we elect the person rather than party. i don't rather than the party. i don't want make the parties any

want to make the parties any more, powerful in this. one of the with politics the problems with our politics is that the party whips and the party leaders have too much power, to power, and if you want to encourage independent thinking within i don't within the parties, i don't think that's a very move. think that's a very good move. so and so close to a so and also so close to a general election. it's nuts. >> yeah, you say that people >> yeah, but you say that people vote not the vote for the person, not the party. that's the idea. >> i think actually, in truth, i was going to say the reality is, i mean, there's certain seats where you could put, for example, i don't know, a of example, i don't know, a tin of baked ballot paper baked beans on the ballot paper with say, with a, let's just say, a labourer. >> that's certainly where i live, those kind of places. and those people will just get elected because it's the party. so a massive so the parties play a massive role as being parties. role in this as being a parties. richard he's full of richard tice, he's full of optimism success optimism about the success or potential party. potential success of his party. listen lee's be our listen lee's going to be our champion the red wall. champion of the red wall. >> this is going to boost us in the polls rapidly. and here's my prediction. the summer, we're prediction. by the summer, we're going that gap the going to close that gap with the tories. we're now about 5 or 6% behind couple of polls that tories. we're now about 5 or 6% behin

reform uk, get this . 750 new reform uk, get this. 750 new members apparently have joined reform alone, giving that, reform today alone, giving that, tasty bank account nearly £30,000. not bad , yeah. well, £30,000. not bad, yeah. well, it's big money to too , us, but it's big money to too, us, but it's big money to too, us, but it's not very much in terms of party political spending, i'm afraid. >> yeah, but it it certainly shows though, because, i mean, these are from 80 million for a general. yeah, but these are from individuals and parting with nearly £40 as an individual in kind of economic times. in these kind of economic times. you that's an easy you know, that's not an easy decision lot of people to decision for a lot of people to make. so for nearly a thousand of nearly a thousand of them, nearly a thousand people on those maps have made that it that that decision. it shows that he's galvanising already. he's galvanising people already. lee potentially, if they weren't contesting upwards of 600 seats, if they were contesting a dozen seats, that approach would work. >> but as you say, for a national general election campaign to contest every single seat, it's going cost you seat, it's going to cost you massive of money. and massive amounts of money. and the problem for reform is the big problem for reform is that have an that they don't have an infrastructure. they don't have

people. were banging people. they were banging on about the postal vote in rochdale, reason , rochdale, but for good reason, because huge numbers of voters now get out very early and you can have a wonderful campaign, a charismatic candidate, bring out air war on the tv, on the radio. it doesn't matter because enough people have gotten a particular party, generally one of the big two the line. i think two over the line. and i think nigel said this before nigel farage said this before i think he has said that ukip would won. think would have won. i think about eight point or eight seats at one point or another by elections or general elections, it not for elections, had it not been for postal voting. reform without postal voting. so reform without that infrastructure, without that infrastructure, without that without that ground campaign, without that ground campaign, without that money, they can poll 25% in national polling. they will still struggle to win seats. >> so i think there's a massive divide right. because, a couple of sundays ago, i in the pub of sundays ago, i was in the pub in hull and it's quite like a working man's pub, and i was talking ex fishermen talking to some ex fishermen there, sentiment was all there, and the sentiment was all there, and the sentiment was all the same . they're lovely, the same. they're lovely, anderson. love him to anderson. they would love him to essentially next prime essentially be the next prime minister. but then also minister. but then if you also ask those people, you know, you're vote at the next you're going to vote at the next election, so many people will say, actually, i'm not going

say, no, actually, i'm not going to so can have lee to vote. so you can have lee anderson fabulous is, anderson as fabulous as he is, but do you convert but he's how do you convert those people to and those people to get out and vote? well lee anderson is only one constituency, he? one constituency, isn't he? >> so there's still 649 >> indeed. so there's still 649 and, the, i was i was out yesterday at a, at a rugby match, the wales rugby match with some blokes and i'd say most of them were probably likely to support reform. but i mean, the trouble would they turn out and because it's turn out and vote because it's all well and good and these guys probably there the probably would. but there is the argument some argument that you take some people off the labour party and also, as i said earlier, you get out people who don't normally vote. can that translate vote. but, can that translate into anything? all it really does, i think, is it will divide the right wing vote and the really the people who are going to benefit from this most are the labour party. >> was watching the press >> i was watching the press conference watching conference today. i was watching it couple of different it on a couple of different screens, actually one on gb screens, actually one here on gb news on the other one, news and then on the other one, don't tell boss. but don't tell my boss. but i decided to peek and see what sky news we're up to and how they

were covering it, and it really stopped me my tracks. so much stopped me in my tracks. so much so i rewound it and so that i rewound it and listened it again. listen to listened to it again. listen to the opening intro on this press conference pictures conference while seeing pictures from conference the reform press conference from the reform party great britain . party of great britain. >> there, the union jack being rather giveaway what rather a giveaway as to what they things . they think about things. >> see, i've got to say. well, well, i all the parties have the union jack. it stopped me in my tracks. right. because the way i interpreted that, what they were essentially saying, this is my interpretation. it's like you're suggesting somehow that if you have the audacity to have what they then called the union jack, they then called the union jack, the union whatever you the union flag, whatever you want it, if you somehow want to call it, if you somehow have the audacity to stand in front of our national flag with pride that that has some pride that somehow that has some kind racist , pride that somehow that has some kind racist, xenophobic kind of racist, xenophobic connotations it, and connotations to it, and i absolutely that. what we absolutely reject that. what we need to bring back is some national pride. we need to bring back that kind of whole, kind of patriotic , sense of unity. patriotic, sense of unity. >> and i think it's there. i don't think it's i don't think

it's gone away, michel, actually. but i was watching it, dare i say this on, on the bbc as well, but they were referring to, to reform as the populist party . i've never heard a party party. i've never heard a party described as the populist party by bbc before like that. it by the bbc before like that. it had a sneering quality . i mean, had a sneering quality. i mean, you just just call it reform uk and they've got policies or they haven't policies. let the haven't got policies. let the viewers but it viewers decide. but calling it the populist party had a bit of a curling lip to it. i thought, you see, i think whole kind you see, i think this whole kind of flag point of union jack union flag point is a key because there is such a key one because there is such a key one because there is so much snobbery. >> aaron, in this country, it almost looks down. i feel it's my interpretation. it looks down on working class, what on like the working class, what i just like your i would just call like your everyman, they are concerned about things. they're proud of their and is their nation and that is dividing people. >> it's a funny one because i, you know, i've seen i think i've seen labour and tory conferences in the last two years do precisely the same thing. it is a really strange one. i mean, i suppose charitable of suppose a charitable reading of what they care what he said is that they care about and british about britain and british interests, and that's why the

british is and being british flag is there. and being charitable , think sure and charitable, i think i'm sure and i'm that mr sniffy of sky i'm sure that mr sniffy of sky wasn't it. yeah. i think that's more likely. >> are very, very sniffy. >> he's just. yeah, really. >> he's just. yeah, really. >> me in my tracks. >> it stopped me in my tracks. not a lot this day and age not a lot in this day and age doing this job, not a lot actually does stop me in my tracks these can tell tracks these days. i can tell you, who's this? alaska says, reform party just lost my votes by lee anderson in. reform party just lost my votes by i lee anderson in. reform party just lost my votes by i wante anderson in. reform party just lost my votes by i want to lnderson in. reform party just lost my votes by i want to knowon in. reform party just lost my votes by i want to know why. in. reform party just lost my votes by i want to know why. if in. why? i want to know why. if you're that camp, i want to you're in that camp, i want to know why. brian, you're an interesting he lives in interesting fellow. he lives in ashfield. lives in ashfield. ashfield. he lives in ashfield. he for conservative lee he voted for conservative lee anderson. now he thinks that we should a by—election. there should have a by—election. there you go. i found that interesting. anyone in interesting. anyone else in ashfield ? what do make about ashfield? what do you make about lee to reform? greg lee defecting to reform? greg says, is an honourable man. i'm a conservative, but i still support him fully, ken says your guests are totally wrong, if lee just wanted to make sure he got re—elected, he would have stayed in the political spectrum. he could have simply apologised and stayed in the fold. he's a man

of great principle. not many of them left. what do you think to that? >> i don't think that's right. because if you look at the opinion polls, i think he looked at the opinion polls which put labour on, i think 46 or something like that, and the conservatives are much, much less. and he i should think lee anderson thinks i can get some of i of those labour voters. and i suspect he i can get suspect he thinks i can get quite lot of the tories and quite a lot of the tories and i can get some of the, the people who don't want to vote the who don't want to vote at the moment. think it will have moment. so i think it will have been a major of his been a major part of his consideration. i don't mean to be down on reform or anything like that, but i just think that's that must be of that's that must be a part of any consideration. that's that must be a part of any personal consideration. that's that must be a part of any personal fortunes.ation. that's that must be a part of any personal fortunes. that's their personal fortunes. that's nothing that. that's nothing wrong with that. that's the works. the way it works. >> can tell you now, there's >> i can tell you now, there's such divided out there. such divided opinions out there. i really tell you now, john i can really tell you now, john says yes with lots of s's and capital letters about time he celebrates switch, celebrates that switch, wesley in georgia, there . he in georgia, usa. hello there. he says.i in georgia, usa. hello there. he says. i don't live in the uk, but notwithstanding that, i think lee anderson did make the right choice in defecting. and i wish very, very best, wish him the very, very best, andy, though, says, sorry, alan

says lee anderson is a loudmouth nonentity. i've got no respect for his views or anything like that. he should stand now and force a by—election, he says. does he work for sky news? yeah, he's like you and you . it could he's like you and you. it could be. no comments i think was the answer from that. anyway, your thoughts gb views at gb news. com, after the break, i'll bring you some more of your comments in. but i also want to talk to you about the huge sums of money now have allocated to, now that have been allocated to, security for both now that have been allocated to, sec|muslim for both now that have been allocated to, sec|muslim and for both now that have been allocated to, sec|muslim and the for both now that have been allocated to, sec|muslim and the jewish groups the muslim and the jewish groups in country. on earth in this country. how on earth have we got to this point where this and will this have we got to this point where this actually and will this have we got to this point where this actually make will this have we got to this point where this actually make thel this cash actually make the difference to solve the issues? you

>> earlier on breakfast, what was deemed to be a fairly innocuous photograph of the princess of wales and her children, which was put out for mother's day. but it has erupted into a scandal for international picture. >> agencies have killed this image. that's really rare. i

can't think of a time since i've been doing this job for the best part of 15 years, where a royal image has been recalled, they knew this image would be so scrutinised because it's the first official one we've seen since her abdominal surgery and all theorists, all the conspiracy theorists, you adding fuel you know, it's just adding fuel to this fire. >> we're making sure that the british people are kept safe from the various of from the various forms of extremism that we sadly see in our country. >> every morning it's breakfast from 6 am. hope you can join us. >> us. >> hello there! michelle dewberry with you till 7:00 tonight. our ambassador, adrian quentin letts , remain alongside quentin letts, remain alongside me. i've got to tell you now, reflecting back to that first topic about lee anderson crossing over to reform, you guys really, really are divided on that one, especially about whether or not it should trigger a by—election if you are in ashfield. i'm really interested to hear from you as i've to hear from you as well. i've already heard from somebody there, else? let me there, but anyone else? let me know thoughts tonight. are know your thoughts tonight. are you think there

you happy, do you think there should a by—election or not? should be a by—election or not? and also on twitter, i've got a poll asking whether or poll running asking whether or not he was right not you think that he was right or wrong to make that move, but also today, the government has committed to providing uk muslims £117 muslims with get this £117 million worth of protective security funding over the next four years. don't forget as well, this amount of money is on top of our additional two. should i say, the £70 million that we have identified for the same reason , for the jewish same reason, for the jewish community? i mean, i've got a few things i want to unpick here. firstly, how we got to the point where this is even necessary. and secondly, do we think this money is going to be the to kind of calming the answer to kind of calming down the tensions , it depends down the tensions, it depends how it's spent. i'm very uncomfortable idea that uncomfortable with the idea that this money might be. i mean, it may be it's going to be may be that it's going to be spent on uniformed police, in which case, i would say if there is a threat, then that's only right proper because , a right and proper because, a state try to keep places state should try to keep places of worship safe. however, if this money is going on private

security firms, then i become less comfortable about that because that looks like you're buying a political favour because you won't know quite how that money is being spent. and it might just look like a a political. so i get a little bit worried about that. but undoubtedly a place of worship should not attract violence. very opposite should be a place of peace, of course. >> aaron, where are you on it? no i completely agree, it's really on with what? what you just said in terms of if the cash is going towards the police. i'd be very, very police. good. i'd be very, very concerned. if it's concerned. however, if it's going private security going to private security contractors, not contractors, it's really not that . i mean, some of the that clear. i mean, some of the money goes on, for instance, cctv and whatnot, but we're talking about massive sums of money, i presume, with the jewish lot of that jewish community. a lot of that goes their goes towards the shomrim, their community police, particularly in again, in north london. but again, that's not really especially clear , what i would say is, you clear, what i would say is, you know, we should obviously be trying protect religious trying to protect religious minorities. there were minorities. and if there were attacks was threat attacks or there was the threat of violence against catholic churches, hope, you churches, i would hope, you know, we'd see the same

know, that we'd see the same thing. but it should thing. but yeah, it should really channelled into police really be channelled into police , and of , police resources. and of course, should be course, the police should be trying to uphold the rule of law and maintain public order for everyone, regardless of colour or creed. >> have we to this point? >> have we got to this point? right? because i mean, this is really, really let's be honest. let's rewind. it's reflecting. now we've this foreign now we've got this foreign conflict, of course, the israel—gaza situation that's now playing out on the streets of britain , and it's playing out in britain, and it's playing out in a variety of different forms of course, you've got people abusing each other. both sides now seem to be getting abused and the amount of abuse is increasing. increasing tensions , increasing. increasing tensions, are but also you've got are rising. but also you've got so many people now that are not connected to either side of this conflict. they're just normal, decent people that are seeing these horrifying images , these horrifying images, particularly children, particularly around children, those hurt , those children getting hurt, getting orphaned, innocent people. now, just getting bombs rained down on them. so, so many people are now involved and i can't see how this is ever going to change, because that conflict is not going to end any time

soon. quentin. it's gone on for an incredibly long time, albeit now, perhaps an escalation of in parts . how we going to parts. so how are we going to get to the bottom of this? how are going to make stop? are we going to make it stop? >> it might help, after the after general election has after the general election has happened, take some happened, that might take some of house. well, of the fuel house. how? well, because might because the politicians might stop games with all of stop playing games with all of this. and there's undoubtedly some of going on. and also, some of that going on. and also, the protesters are building up. they're trying to create a bit of, noise around a general election. doubt about election. i have no doubt about that. i used to be sceptical that. and i used to be sceptical about whether or not people could really take offence at protests, believe in protests, because i believe in the free speech and i'm a live and let live man. but then a friend of mine who's got, jewish granddaughter and he's got a jewish daughter, he told me that she, she lives in wiltshire and she's considering emigrating to israel because she feels she's going to feel safer in israel. and that was a bit of that pulled me up sharp. and i thought, blimey, you know that is happening. that is is actually happening. that is someone feels threatened someone who feels threatened by the london. i

the protests in london. so i think the protests in think that the protests in london, of course, you've got to have speech, you have free speech, but you mustn't it happen to mustn't have let it happen to the point where it becomes intimidatory, there was , intimidatory, well, there was, you'll this story now. you'll know this story by now. i'm sure was, protests i'm sure there was, protests again this weekend, not just in london, have say, but, you london, i have to say, but, you know the story by now, don't you? so people taking to you? so many people taking to the streets demanding a ceasefire in this conflict. ceasefire now in this conflict. well, eye, well, something caught my eye, actually. guy out actually. there was a guy out there, he had a sign he was holding a sign. basically. i think can even get a graphic think i can even get a graphic up of this. he basically was saying that hamas are terrorists. all got terrorists. they all got a little a bit noisy little bit messy and a bit noisy around got say, around him, i've got to say, the, protesters around him didn't seem take kindly to didn't seem to take kindly to him, i could you anyway, a him, i could tell you anyway, a long he up long story short, he ends up getting off the getting jostled off by the police, apparently arrested for assault like that , assault or something like that, was subsequently then de—arrested, and yeah, it got my mind because the fella aaron, he was just making a statement that hamas a terrorist. well, they are, yeah. >> it was, he had a very strong iranian accent. and as a british iranian, i have to say we can be

a little bit crazy, a bit adventurous, no, but, you know, l, adventurous, no, but, you know, i, i was going through his twitter feed. i don't agree with a lot of what he says politically. he's a sort of royalist iranian royalist. but, he has right to say he obviously has a right to say what he says, regardless of what he saying. the way, like he was saying. by the way, like you he's he's repeating the you say, he's he's repeating the official british government you say, he's he's repeating the official bbuth government you say, he's he's repeating the official bbuth go wouldznt you say, he's he's repeating the official bbuth go would that position, but why would that antagonise are a peace, antagonise if you are a peace, he's it antagonise, he's doing it to antagonise, isn't he? what's isn't he? no. but what's antagonistic about making that statement, with you. statement, i, i agree with you. >> i also think nobody >> and i also think nobody should responding the way should be responding in the way that they were. but clearly that they were. but he's clearly doing people would doing it to, as people would say, to get a rise out of people. my, my major problem with all is the fact that the with it all is the fact that the police arrested him. you know, people going a bit people are going to have a bit of bargy. i think that's of argy bargy. i think that's not appropriate. but the police arrested him saying arrested him for saying something arrested him for saying somethi legitimate say, on entirely legitimate to say, on the and as say, what the streets. and as i say, what he what he you know, the sign he had was obviously in line with british even if british policy, even if it wasn't, even it was wasn't, even if it was incredibly controversial. i don't should be don't think people should be arrested placards as arrested for holding placards as well. think it was a big

well. i think it was a big overstep, but they they they probably made mistake. >> right. because of >> they did. right. because of course this massive course there's this massive outcry so the met outcry about this. so the met police came said they've police came out and said they've reviewed of the body worn reviewed all of the body worn video of minute video of this 11 minute incident. he says while the wording on the man's sign was an accurate reflection law accurate reflection of the law in to it was in relation to hamas, it was also there to also apparent he was there to provoke from the provoke a reaction from the passing crowd. the priority for officers was de—escalate the officers was to de—escalate the situation, everyone situation, to keep everyone safe. minutes passed, safe. and ten minutes passed, apparently with officers repeatedly asking him to move further then eventually further away and then eventually minimal force was used to get him to do so. i mean, if that's your definition of minimum force , but the bit i can't seem to get my head around is , why is get my head around is, why is stating this fact that hamas is terrorist ? why is it just terrorist? why is it just a given that that is somehow going to agitate these so—called peaceful protesters? >> i was not there. i don't know what was said and i don't know how it was said, but i've just if you sign, we don't need to be there. photographs can not don't always tell the full story. but

if you go up right up close to someone's face and say, something hamas, which may something about hamas, which may be , then that be entirely correct, then that might be construed to be, escalatory . escalatory. >> so, i mean, i can tell you now who's up next, 7:00. nigel farage. good evening to you , farage. good evening to you, nigel, in a second, i'll ask you what's coming up on your show, but what did you make to that fella? do you think it's antagonistic to have that sign? >> whether it is or isn't , the >> whether it is or isn't, the fact that the police arrested him whilst allowing people to chant that the yemeni houthis should go on attacking boats and turning them around showed an unbelievable level of double standards in our policing. and this rests with sir mark rowley and sadiq khan. this rests with sir mark rowley and sadiq khan . something is and sadiq khan. something is going very, very badly wrong and you know what? millions of people in london and around the country absolutely know it. >> what have you got coming up on your show, nigel? >> i'll debate double standards in policing, plus also the lee anderson move to reform uk does

it mean that the red wall is now completely sunk for rishi sunak? because i think it is. >> million dollar question . i >> million dollar question. i shall see you at seven. let me bnng shall see you at seven. let me bring it back to this policing thing that nigel just referenced there. this double standard. do you think there is still a double standard? because don't forget we had rishi sunak, didn't we? he was talking the didn't we? he was talking on the streets, street through streets, downing street through the he told the the day saying that he told the police to get tough. the police basically responded and basically then responded and said going to said we're not going to do anything this anything differently this weekend. we've seen weekend. and then we've seen that scene and last that scene and others last weekend, standards. it weekend, double standards. is it still a thing? aaron? >> don't think it's a >> no, i don't think it's a double standard. think the met double standard. i think the met sadly many strange sadly make many strange decisions. seen that first decisions. i've seen that first hand the course the last hand over the course of the last 15 but their primary 15 years, but their primary objective will to maintain objective will be to maintain pubuc objective will be to maintain public viewed that public order. they viewed that gentleman you know, a factor gentleman as, you know, a factor in potential in catalysing potential disorder. don't agree with disorder. i don't agree with that. that's how the met's that. but that's how the met's always operated. that's not new. >> but see, this is the >> but you see, this is the thing that i can't get my head around when you're talking about. on the are about. oh yeah, the met are trying maintain trying to kind of maintain order. they'll do is

order. so what they'll do is they'll the person that's they'll get the person that's not really anything wrong, not really doing anything wrong, get of the way. why is get them out of the way. why is that their focus? why isn't that their the their focus on getting the people intent on people that are intent on reacting way that's not not reacting in a way that's not not right? why are they focusing on them guys? >> so why say actually the >> so why would say actually the police should be protecting that gentleman's of gentleman's right to freedom of speech and freedom of political expression, simply speech and freedom of political exp how>n, simply speech and freedom of political exp how that's simply speech and freedom of political exp how that's not simply speech and freedom of political exp how that's not how mply speech and freedom of political exp how that's not how they speech and freedom of political exp how that's not how the met not how that's not how the met have my entire have operated for my entire aduu have operated for my entire adult so we can debate adult life. so we can debate whether or wrong. whether that's right or wrong. but would push back and say but i would push back and say it's certainly not double it's certainly not new double standards policing. it's certainly not new double sta|there policing. it's certainly not new double sta|there is, licing. on a wider >> there is, i think on a wider level, there is a feeling that the from the rivers to the sea, people have got the police on the a bit and that they are the run a bit and that they are cut more than people cut a bit more slack than people who their protests, who find their protests, threatening. i'd say that is a general feeling, but in the particular case there, i just don't feel i know enough about it to, to come down as judge jeffreys on it. but, you know, the police have got a bit of a problem in terms of the wider perception about them going a bit soft on some of these protests. >> well, i think there's

definitely a double standards. i still remember those scenes around to remember. around the cenotaph to remember. how take the police how long did it take the police to actually start kettling people you remember to people in? do you remember to stop people getting stop people actually getting anywhere cenotaph? anywhere near that cenotaph? they with they didn't mess around with those people, did they? but on the side, other side of the flip side, the other side of the flip side, the other side of the argument does seem have the argument does seem to have slightly what shall we slightly more, what shall we say, to, share their say, space to, share their views, do they not? anyway, keep me informed your views. gb me informed of your views. gb views gb news. is how views that gb news. com is how you get hold of me and join the conversation tonight. after the break, to talk you break, i want to talk to you about whether or not we should be benefits, basically be slashing benefits, basically to pay for tax cuts. that's rishi sunak idea he wants rishi sunak idea when he wants to national insurance in to scrap national insurance in full over time. your thoughts on that

? hi there. michelle dewberry keeping you company until 7:00 tonight. alongside me . i've tonight. alongside me. i've still got the parliamentary sketch writer for the daily

mail, quentin letts. and the co—founder of novara media, aaron bastani. let me ask you this. would you ever be a police officer in today's society, which is debating in the which is debating that in the brick, as well, pointing brick, sandra as well, pointing out the difference, perhaps in the of the the policing standards, of the days in the miners strike versus the policing standards, today always leads that interesting question, doesn't it? do you think we should have a police service or a force? that force. >> force definitely have a force. >> force. police have a full police force. >> what's the difference? >> what's the difference? >> well, it's to do with attitudes, isn't it? you're going to impose law and order. are you going say. would you are you going to say. would you mind like sergeant mind awfully like sergeant wilson army? would wilson out of dad's army? would you behaving you mind awfully behaving yourself? think we need yourself? well, i think we need a and i don't imagine a force, and i don't imagine that a police police force a force, and i don't imagine that a be .ice police force a force, and i don't imagine that a be takingolice force a force, and i don't imagine that a be taking thee force a force, and i don't imagine that a be taking the knees would be taking the knee. >> don't they'd be >> i don't think they'd be painting their cars in rainbow colours and wearing or addressing pronoun things like that. anyway, know what? that. anyway, do you know what? that's debate for another day, that's a debate for another day, andifs that's a debate for another day, and it's a debate, though, and it's a good debate, though, isn't if i say so myself. isn't it? if i say so myself. police force police service, police force or police service, tell we'll debate that in tell me. we'll debate that in full, another but for

full, another night. but for now, to ask you about tax now, i want to ask you about tax cuts because, sunak, one cuts because, rishi sunak, one of grand ambitions is to of his grand ambitions is to essentially scrap essentially try and scrap national insurance contributions in full, you pay for in full, how would you pay for that? well, it'll be about that? well, it'll be all about trying to the amount of trying to squeeze the amount of money we spend on benefits. aaron your thoughts on aaron bastani, your thoughts on these aaron bastani, your thoughts on the madness. >> madness. >> madness. >> why ? >> oh, why? >> oh, why? >> utter madness. nobody 12, 18 months ago is saying scrap national insurance. nobody was saying that. they were saying lots of things like my high streets dying. the police aren't resourced i'm getting resourced properly. i'm getting poorer inflation. my poorer because of inflation. my mortgage just went up £4,500 a month. i'm worried about my kids getting on in life. i'm worried about my mum or my grandparents and their elderly care. nobody was about national was thinking about national insurance. were insurance. if they were worried about they generally about tax, they were generally looking like vat, looking at things like vat, council my mother council tax and my mother in law, clever woman. she was law, very clever woman. she was a seamstress for 30 years. she put so she said, look, put it so well. she said, look, they'll cut national insurance. they put up council they they put up council tax, they rob paul. and rob peter to pay paul. and i think she's so i think think she's right. so i think this the tories generating this is the tories generating headunes this is the tories generating headlines out nowhere. and

headlines out of nowhere. and i don't think it's a good use of pubuc don't think it's a good use of public money. i would say in terms of the cutting benefits line, i find increasingly line, i find this increasingly frustrating because what it does is allows the conservative is it allows the conservative party in particular, not just the conservative party, but of course, they've been governing for 14 years. it allows them to not critically not think critically and intensely we intensely about where else we can make savings. this country could oversee hundreds of reforms, which would save billions of pounds and i sincerely believe this, michelle. it's not a left right thing . we could scrap police and thing. we could scrap police and crime commissioners. we could reduce the house of lords. we could get rid of at least half a dozen quangos. we could save billions and billions of pounds. you council i'm in you know, the council i'm in in portsmouth, unitary authority. we three every we have an election three every four isn't it just four years. why isn't it just once four years? why don't once every four years? why don't we local elections we have local elections everywhere same time, everywhere all at the same time, like country? that like a normal country? that would because this would save money because of this obsession with benefits. the tories that tories never talk about that stuff and it really bastani. it lets off the hook. lets them off the hook. >> they go, quentin, would cut >> they go, quentin, i would cut international as well. international aid as well. >> housing benefit, i'd >> i'd cut housing benefit, i'd cut child benefit. completely

cut child benefit. i completely agree, cut a lot of the child benefits , the sort of family benefits, the sort of family benefits. i agree about the house of lords. i agree completely about police and crime commissioners. what a waste of money they are. but those things are sort of fairly on the margins. i think you've got into some. i don't got to get into some. i don't believe that this, national insurance, it's just insurance, i think it's just it's a few policy wonks doing some blue sky thinking , i don't some blue sky thinking, i don't think it's the prime minister and the cabinet, actually, realistically saying this is a proper proposal the moment. proper proposal at the moment. but see until maybe but we'll see until maybe they'll the tory they'll be in the tory manifesto. doubt it, if it's manifesto. i doubt it, if it's going to happen, if there's going to happen, if there's going to happen, if there's going to reduction in going to be a reduction in national insurance, it's going to come gradually at best. >> you want to to >> do you want to respond to any of that? >> e“ n e“- e i say, i mean >> well, like i say, i mean council your council tax is going up, people have seen their mortgages is the mortgages and this is the problem for tories. right. problem for the tories. right. is 4% cut to national is that a 4% cut to national insurance is a really big deal if you're working, the if you're working, by the way, if you're working, by the way, if you're working, by the way, if you're than 26 grand, if you're in less than 26 grand, you're down. and earn you're down. and if you earn more than grand, you're down

more than 60 grand, you're down because they didn't move because they they didn't move the tax thresholds. on the tax thresholds. you're on more money if you're between more money now if you're between 26 60 however you 26 and 60 k. however when you think going with think about what's going on with mortgages, prices , cost mortgages, energy prices, cost of childcare, food inflation, council tax have already said it doesn't touch the sides. and that's the main problem for the conservative party. >> yeah, but you're all saying like why are they focusing on benefits and stuff. because it's a almost principle a simple almost principle thing. the be a simple almost principle thing. theabout, be a simple almost principle thing. the about, you be a simple almost principle thing. the about, you know, be a simple almost principle thing. the about, you know, self be all about, you know, self reliability and all the rest of it. so if you can work then you should be going out to work and providing for yourself. and in this country people this country there are people that think to that actually think to themselves, know what? themselves, do you know what? i've quite a nice life, i've got quite a nice life, actually. i get my rent paid actually. i can get my rent paid and get my council tax paid. i can get a nice little bit of pocket money. i could probably get a job cash in hand as well. and the tories would push against say that that against that and say that that is kind actually that is the kind of actually that they're to stamp out. they're trying to stamp out. >> they've saying for >> they've been saying that for 14 and the country has 14 years and the country has just poorer just got poorer and infrastructure just got worse. >> so i it's not just >> so i, i it's not just benefits either. it's other

government departments. government, of government, the department of transport much on road transport wastes so much on road repairs on the of repairs and on the sort of standardisation of road repairs. repairs and on the sort of standspend:ion of road repairs. repairs and on the sort of standspend:ion more ad repairs. repairs and on the sort of standspend:ion more than )airs. repairs and on the sort of standspend:ion more than is rs. they spend far more than is needed that. why do we needed on that. and why do we pay needed on that. and why do we pay local councillors? we never used to pay councillors. used to pay local councillors. it just brought in in in the it was just brought in in in the 1990s. there's no need for that. people the job without people will do the job without being paid. >> you , would you be >> would you, would you be a local councillor? >> good luck. a lot of people, people, people are parish councillors without doing it, why do why not county councillors? do you it you think we should make it almost service? almost like a voluntary service? >> no no, it would >> councillors? no no, it would just be retirees. what we need to is, i think, halve the to do is, i think, halve the number of councillors, those around them. well that's around half of them. well that's true more true and they'll only be more over true. we need over time. that's true. we need to the number to halve the number of councillors and i think we need to them twice as much. we to pay them twice as much. we certainly. by the way, when you have a direct, directly elected mayor, do you need have a direct, directly elected mcouncil do you need have a direct, directly elected mcouncil ceo do you need have a direct, directly elected mcouncil ceo on do you need have a direct, directly elected mcouncil ceo on a do you need have a direct, directly elected mcouncil ceo on a quarter] need have a direct, directly elected mcouncil ceo on a quarter ofeed have a direct, directly elected mcouncil ceo on a quarter of £1! a council ceo on a quarter of £1 million a year? it's crazy because they they all create because they all they all create jobs other, they? jobs for each other, don't they? >> ruling, the sort >> i mean, the ruling, the sort of clerical class, the sort of administrative class, just it's completely gone. like like mint

growing, off. growing, like mint off. >> not quite that bad. come >> it's not quite that bad. come on, make you it on, mint, make sure you keep it in what i learned. in a pot. that's what i learned. >> tell you what i want to >> i'll tell you what i want to talk to you about after the break. a photograph? yes. you heard that right. an actual photograph. lost photograph. people have lost their minds about this royal photograph.

hi there. michelle dewberry with your tool seven quentin letts and aaron bastani remain alongside me . we were just alongside me. we were just talking about benefits earlier. barbara says. michelle, your last comment was naive. benefit levels country are low. levels in this country are low. you have a nice life on you cannot have a nice life on them. the real problem is that jobs on offer do not pay enough to on. certainly agree, to live on. i certainly agree, barbara, that if anyone works, there should need there definitely should not need to to top up to have benefits to top up essentially those low wages. i agree you on that. mark agree with you on that. mark from hull. hello mark, he says i'm a disabled person, entirely dependent on benefits i'm dependent on benefits and i'm terrified that sunak will freeze or even reduce benefits. i'm at home all day, every day. it

costs a fortune to run the heating all day and winter, and i can barely survive as it is, let alone benefits cut. let alone with a benefits cut. i'll well wishes. i'll send you my well wishes. and say, mark me and and i've got to say, mark me and everyone else. actually, people need need those need help if they need those benefits survive , completely benefits to survive, completely agree you that those agree with you that those benefits cut and benefits should not be cut and actually people should be able to in those situations to afford in those situations where provide where they can't work to provide themselves. be themselves. they should be supported state, also as supported by the state, also as well, i want talk to you well, i want to talk to you about a story that's made people lose and lose their minds today, and that's this in the that's just on this panel in the break, because we've just found out that quentin letts used to be i was a dustman. yes 1981. >> i was a dustman. yes 1981. >> i was a dustman. yes 1981. >> tell me a brief story about that. >> i was it was a winter of 1981. i was working as a barman at and i needed more at night, and i needed more dosh. so i am the benefits dosh. and, so i am the benefits were not so good in those days. so i was a bin man at, i think it was the hours of about 430 to about did you like it? i about noon. did you like it? i loved it, actually, i loved it. >> it was great. who'd have thought it? the guys are very good. >> i only did it for a couple of months, but it was, well, a

great job. good. >> there you go. you learn something new every day about the work with, don't the people you work with, don't you? tell you the other you? i'll tell you the other story that's people really story that's made people really lose minds today. we've lose their minds today. we've seen it. this royal photograph, if this, i don't if you've not seen this, i don't know where you've been, quite frankly. princess of frankly. anyway, the princess of wales, put wales, she. apparently they put up on their social up a picture on their social media basically, media saying, basically, happy mother's short, mother's day, long story short, that, circular. that that, issue was circular. that image circulated far and image was circulated far and wide. well, full drama then occurred yesterday because, media agencies like picture agencies put out what they called basically like a kill nofice called basically like a kill notice telling people to not share this image because apparently it had been doctored. i mean, where are you, aaron? the update on this is that, the princess of wales, then issued a statement saying that, you know, she basically was an amateur photographer and she just tweaked herself. are tweaked it herself. people are losing minds over this losing their minds over this stuff. aaron. your thoughts? >> all does seem >> well, it all does seem very strange, think strange, doesn't it? and i think people of why are people can sort of say, why are you so mawkish about you being so mawkish about somebody who potentially may be in bother personally in a spot of bother personally and on and so forth? that's

and so on and so forth? that's all issue is, however, all true. the issue is, however, that she's the wife of a future head of state. mother head of state. she's the mother of state. you of another head of state. you know, if nothing know, obviously, if nothing strange or unexpected, strange happens or unexpected, and are public figures who and they are public figures who enjoy considerable funds from the taxpayer. and so there is a level of accountability and scrutiny that you wouldn't normally apply to a normal person , private citizen, we are, person, private citizen, we are, in fact, the subjects of her father in law. so i think the scrutiny that she's getting is, is, is fair. and if, for instance , kate is in a bit of a instance, kate is in a bit of a pickle for whatever reason, health condition or whatever, we don't know. and i don't like to speculate about those things. like i say, i don't think that's just purely sort of mawkish, silly gossip. i think matters silly gossip. i think it matters because these people play because these these people play a role in our constitutional system. >> quentin, there is a rather sweet photograph, and >> quentin, there is a rather svwas photograph, and >> quentin, there is a rather svwas obviously h, and >> quentin, there is a rather svwas obviously tweaked and >> quentin, there is a rather svwas obviously tweaked around it was obviously tweaked around the she didn't the corners because she didn't do well. i don't suppose do it very well. i don't suppose she's going it again, she's going to do it again, i rather by her explanation. look, i'm an amateur photographer, amateur amateur snappers, always

trying latest sort of trying to do the latest sort of bit technology and trying to bit of technology and trying to improve things. and she's, she's been caught doing it, but it didn't strike me as the most, terrible sin. >> but she's been she's disappeared for two months. if she hadn't disappeared for two months. strange, isn't months. it's just strange, isn't it ? it? >> something done on her insides. blame her for insides. i don't blame her for wanting out of the wanting to keep out of the pubuc wanting to keep out of the public eye. you know, some sort of private operation . of private operation. >> the photo, the >> cool. well, the photo, the evidence seen is that evidence that i've seen is that the photo, the original. this may be incorrect. you know, twitter is a reliable source twitter is not a reliable source of news, but i've seen people showing that the photo is originally front cover originally from the front cover of it's moved of vogue, and it's been moved oven of vogue, and it's been moved over. so so i mean, it seems to be, you know, considerable changes a to original changes to a to an original picture, who knows? but what i've concluded it is important because what i've concluded in this whole kind of, case photo, is that so many people have too much spare time because the amount of time that people have spent analysing this photo, ladies and gents, they've gone through all of the every little

detail from looking at where the patterns meet up on the jumpers to looking where the little, tiles match or they don't match, looking at the heels on the shoes and all the rest of it. >> and literally, i've even seen someone today. i mean, so bored was she that gone through was she that she's gone through all that kate all previous outfits that kate has the children has worn has worn the children has worn to out that actually, to make out that actually, perhaps this picture was taken back in november or october and all that. and i think honestly , all that. and i think honestly, it's rather like one of those spot the difference, quizzes. >> i can if you've got so much time on your hands, i can give you some jobs to do. >> but the result of all this is that we're all looking at the photograph much more so it's actually been quite a success photograph much more so it's actlbrianieen quite a success photograph much more so it's actlbrianieen qwhy a success photograph much more so it's actlbrianieen qwhy is success photograph much more so it's actlbrianieen qwhy is no cess photograph much more so it's actlbrianieen qwhy is no one for, brian says, why is no one mentioning fact that she mentioning the fact that she didn't have wedding ring didn't even have a wedding ring on brian? >> brian, people don't have to wear wedding ring all the wear the wedding ring all the time, mark all of this is time, mark says all of this is pathetic, not pathetic, and if it's not stressful now stressful enough, kate has now ended to say sorry. ended up having to say sorry. john says editing an official photograph and getting caught out. look. out. not a good pr look. everyone photos. if everyone edits their photos. if you're site, i hate

you're on a dating site, i hate to it to you. you wait to break it to you. you wait till you meet up with people in real life. they look nothing like the that they like the images that they pretend could you pretend to. i could tell you that anyway, aaron, that for free. anyway, aaron, thank much for your thank you very much for your company. pleasure, always. company. my pleasure, as always. for looking in always for yours too. looking in always for guys at home. thank you for you guys at home. thank you for you guys at home. thank you for your don't go for your company. don't go anywhere. farage is up next tonight. >> a brighter with boxt tonight. >> a sponsors with boxt tonight. >> a sponsors of with boxt tonight. >> a sponsors of weather| boxt tonight. >> a sponsors of weather on )xt tonight. >> a sponsors of weather on gb news. >> good evening. here's your latest gb news weather update brought to you by the met office. eastern parts may have a touch of frost tonight , but touch of frost tonight, but further west it is going to turn wet and windy due to an area of low pressure and associated fronts pushing their fronts that are pushing their way from the atlantic. we do way in from the atlantic. we do also have occluded front also have an occluded front affecting northwest affecting parts of northwest scotland bring affecting parts of northwest scotléoutbreaks bring affecting parts of northwest scotlé outbreaks of bring affecting parts of northwest scotléoutbreaks of rain bring affecting parts of northwest scotléoutbreaks of rain forbring some outbreaks of rain for a time, but it's across northern ireland where we're going to have heavy rain and strong have the heavy rain and strong winds in, and that rain winds pushing in, and that rain will reach far western will later reach far western parts scotland, england and parts of scotland, england and wales. as we go through the early of tomorrow in the early hours of tomorrow in the east, we see some drier east, where we see some drier and perhaps clearer and perhaps even clearer weather, could see touch of

weather, could see a touch of frost, perhaps some patches frost, perhaps even some patches of first thing tomorrow. of fog. first thing tomorrow. but most hazardous but the most hazardous weather will the rain and those will be the heavy rain and those strong, blustery winds across western parts. initially, heaviest rain the higher heaviest rain over the higher ground, especially the hills and mountains of wales. and mountains of north wales. and that continues its way that rain then continues its way eastwards and there will some eastwards and there will be some heavier bursts . but it does heavier bursts. but it does break up and ease a little bit with some drier interludes developing time. some developing for a time. some strong, winds to watch developing for a time. some strofor. winds to watch developing for a time. some strofor. taking winds to watch developing for a time. some strofor. taking the 1ds to watch developing for a time. some strofor. taking the edge» watch developing for a time. some strofor. taking the edge of atch out for. taking the edge of those temperatures, though they will a touch higher than will be at a touch higher than they have been recently. more wet come as we go wet weather to come as we go into wednesday, band of rain into wednesday, a band of rain pushing way south eastwards pushing its way south eastwards across into northern england, pushing its way south eastwards across theo northern england, pushing its way south eastwards across the south 1ern england, pushing its way south eastwards across the south ofn england, pushing its way south eastwards across the south of thisgland, pushing its way south eastwards across the south of this staying two to the south of this staying pretty cloudy, further pretty cloudy, brighter further north over of scotland but north over much of scotland but blustery , strong winds, risk of blustery, strong winds, risk of gales or even severe gales towards the north—west. more wet and windy weather to come as we go through end of the week, go through the end of the week, particularly towards the northwest, mild. northwest, but rather mild. >> things are heating >> looks like things are heating up . boxt boilers sponsors of up. boxt boilers sponsors of weather on

gb news. >> do we have two tier policing? because given the way those demonstrations on saturday were policed, i'm really worried that we're pandering to, frankly, those that back terrorism . and those that back terrorism. and today, big day politically. lee anderson leaves the conservatives and joins reform. gb news chris hope joins me. i'm going to ask, does that mean the red wall has now all but gone? and the most extraordinary controversy over the princess kate photographs of her on mother's day with her kids, accusations they were doctored and i'm not sure what to make of it. tom bower may be knows the answer, but before all of that, let's get the news with tatiana sanchez