three days to go everybody. thank goodness for that. the lib dem leader, ed davey today . dem leader, ed davey today. bungee jumping. i mean come on now. do these antics actually convince you to vote for the likes of lib dem or not.7 also, starmer says that if he becomes prime minister, he will regularly stop work at 6 pm. and have family time. is this a goodidea and have family time. is this a good idea or quite frankly, if you want work life balance, should you be doing a different job? should you be doing a different job.7 you tell me. and an earthquake in europe . macron's earthquake in europe. macron's gamble to call a spontaneous election has to put it mildly, gone wrong. the extremes at both end of the scale have smashed his party. what do you make to it all? his party. what do you make to it all.7 and his party. what do you make to it all? and at glastonbury, it wasn't just the audience. crowdsurfing. oh no. a banksy artwork depicting a small boat packed with migrants passed

along the crowd to, you guessed it, cheers. apparently it was legendary historic and epic. can you imagine if that took place at a reform uk rally? your thoughts on all of that ? all of thoughts on all of that? all of that and a lot more before 7:00. but first tonight, 6:00. news headunes. headlines. >> michelle, thank you and good evening to you. well, the top story from the gb newsroom tonight is that rishi sunak says a victory for labour in this week's election would see britain's borders become the soft touch of europe. campaigning in oxfordshire today, the prime minister insisted flights to rwanda are an essential deterrent for illegal migrants coming into britain, and warned other parties have failed to put forward credible alternatives . forward credible alternatives. >> it is a deterrent. it's very simple. i don't think illegal

migrants should get to stay in our country. they should be removed to a safe alternative thatis removed to a safe alternative that is the only way to stop people coming in the first place. that's what you'll get if i'm your prime minister a vote for anyone else just means that we are going to become the soft touch of europe when it comes to illegal migration. we've had two debates head to head , and anyone debates head to head, and anyone who's watched them will have seen that keir starmer just simply can't answer the question what would he do with illegal migrants that come to our country? he doesn't have a plan. ihave country? he doesn't have a plan. i have a plan, rishi sunak. >> meanwhile, sir keir starmer says he'll have to make tough choices to deal with a very difficult inheritance if he wins power. on thursday, the conservatives are warning against handing labour what they're calling a supermajority amid polls giving labour a 20 point lead. but the labour leader says a clear mandate is needed to repair britain's economy, and warns apathy could lead to another five years of the conservatives. >> and this has to be a summer

of change. that's our one job this summer, a summer of change. and so whether you're a family that's been struggling with the cost of living crisis for months and years on end with bills beanng and years on end with bills bearing down on you, whether you're a business that struggled because of the damage that's been done to the economy or whether you've served your country in uniform or in your community, then this campaign, this positive labour campaign is for you. and the fight for change is for you. >> sir keir starmer while the news abroad in fact, in the united states, the supreme court has ruled that former presidents are immune from prosecution for some actions taken while in office. that decision throws out a judicial decision that rejected donald trump's bid to shield himself from criminal charges related to his attempt to overturn his 2020 election loss. today's decision means that former presidents can be immune for actions taken within their constitutional authority,

but not for actions they may take in a private capacity . the take in a private capacity. the actor sir ian mckellen has pulled out of his national tour of the west end production of play kings. in a statement today , he said that after doctors advice, he decided to step down from the play with what he called the greatest reluctance. it comes after he fell off the stage during a recent performance in london's west end.he performance in london's west end. he does assure ticketholders, though, that his replacement and the production remain as dazzling as ever. in france, the populist , right remain as dazzling as ever. in france, the populist, right wing national rally party has taken more than 30% of the vote in the country's snap election, putting it on the cusp of forming a government. the first round of voting is a huge setback for president macron, whose centrist alliance party trailed in third place with just 20% of that vote. if the current momentum continues, it could see the populist right wing party, incidentally led by marine le

pen, rise to power for the first time since the second world war. that final outcome will depend on days of negotiations, though, between the parties before next week's run off vote. lots of analysts now saying there'll be analysts now saying there'll be a hung parliament in france as a result . here in the uk, the result. here in the uk, the average house price was up by 0.2% in june as higher mortgage rates kept many people off the property ladder. it means the average cost of a home across the uk is just over £266,000, which is 1.5% more than last year , according to the index, year, according to the index, which was by the nationwide group . earnings growth has group. earnings growth has performed better than the property market in recent years, but it hasn't been enough to offset the recent spike in more mortgage costs. just one last story for you about jude bellingham. the england player is being investigated over a gesture he made during england's win over slovakia in the euros last night. the england footballer, facing a probe over

a potential breach of the basic rules of decent conduct, we're told it's understood to relate told it's understood to relate to bellingham, if i may say , to bellingham, if i may say, grabbing his crotch after scoring england's equaliser in added time of the match. harry kane, of course, going on to score another goal in extra time, securing the happiness of englishmen across the land . englishmen across the land. those are the latest gb news headunes those are the latest gb news headlines from the newsroom. i'm back in and out with more. see you then. >> for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . forward slash alerts. >> thank you very much for that, polly. tell me at home, by the way, what did you think to that? did you see the gesture? what? what reference? what the gesture was. it is a tea time show. i don't want to make your hair

curl, everybody. what do you think? to a storm in a teacup or fair that they are investigating him for it. tell me your thoughts on that. i am michelle dewberry and i am with you until 7:00 tonight alongside me. got a new face to this show. well, new face whilst i've been here is the former labour mp shaun simon. good evening to you. you've done this once before, but you didn't have the pleasure of my company. i was on holiday. >> it wasn't the same. >> it wasn't the same. >> it wasn't the same. >> i know we don't know yet. you might actually be regretting my return back to the panel also alongside me. i've not seen his face for a while. the life peer in the house of lords, daniel moylan. good evening. >> good evening. michelle. nice to see you. >> and you know the drill. it's not just about us three. it is about you guys at home as well. so what is on your mind tonight? all the usual ways. email gb views @gbnews. com go to the website gbnews.com/yoursay. or of course you can tweet or text me. there's lots i want to talk to you about tonight, only three days to go to the general election. thank god for that. that's all i can say. but look, before i start getting into the nitty gritty of all of that stuff, i do just want to start

by just pressing pause for a split second, if you will indulge me, just to give a shout out to this wonderful little boy, many of you will know who he is. this is tony hudgell, he is just absolutely fabulous. you will be familiar with his story. very, very horrendously. he was abused when he was a little baby, the extent of his abuse meant that he had to have his legs amputated. he was of course, adopted by a wonderful, wonderful family. and i can tell you now, the work that tony has done ever since has been nothing short of inspirational. he's only nine years old. and you, you might remember he was supposed to go to a buckingham palace garden party, but he got stuck in traffic. can you believe it? so he missed that party anyway. look, he's now had, his buckingham palace party. there he is with queen camilla. and also as well, he received the british empire medal for services to the prevention of child abuse. i just want to say a massive congratulations and send to love him. and his family is absolutely fabulous . so there

absolutely fabulous. so there you go. look, let's get into the twists and turns. and of the political campaign, shall we? i'm joined now by our political correspondent olivia utley. good evening to you. three days to go.bnng evening to you. three days to go. bring us up to speed with what we've missed. >> three days to go. as you say. i've been on the labour battle bus today following keir starmer. now labour is campaigning in what used to be real tory heartlands. i was in buckinghamshire earlier , buckinghamshire earlier, oxfordshire as well. these are places with majorities of over 20,000 for the conservatives, but labour are so confident at this election and unsurprisingly, when you look at the polls and what the bookies have to say, they are now thinking that they can pick up seats like bletchley in buckinghamshire or chipping norton. david cameron's old seat in oxfordshire. that said, they are a little bit worried about the conservatives talking up this idea of a labour supermajority because they're superm ajority because they're worried supermajority because they're worried that labour voters will get complacent. if you're a lifelong labour voter living in

a safe seat and you're hearing all this stuff about a labour supermajority, or hearing that labour are going are odds to on win more than 400 seats in the polls, then the argument is you might not bother to go out and vote labour. so that's something that keir starmer wants to guard against today. meanwhile, you've got the prime minister, rishi sunak, campaigning in stratford on avon again. sunak, campaigning in stratford on avon again . that used to be on avon again. that used to be a really safe tory seat in 2019. nadhim zahawi, the former chancellor, won it with a majority of about 20,000. but of course the conservatives are so nervous now about losing swathes and swathes of seats across the country that they are trying to firm up support in their tory heartlands as well. so it's fighting now for these areas, these rural, leafy green areas. mostly in the south—east of england, which ed davey to has his eye on. he's been bungee jumping today. another stunt from the lib dem leader. a little bit torturous, i thought his argument is that, some people are making the, thinking of doing something which they've

never done before on thursday and voting liberal democrat, taking a leap of faith. so he ed davey is doing something which he's never done before in taking a leap of faith, literally, by this bungee jump , he is hoping this bungee jump, he is hoping to pick up sort of 50 or 60 seats for the liberal democrats, reversing essentially what happened after that. cameron clegg coalition. the liberal democrats are now down to i think it's something like 12 or 13 seats in the house of commons. so if they manage to win back those seats in the south east and south west of england, which they lost back in 2015, that would be seen as a really big victory for them. >> interesting stuff. thank you very much for that, olivia. did you see, everyone that bungee jumped today? i mean, i've got a clip of it. should we play it? in case you missed it again? look again ? democrat look again? democrat really?

lord moylan, i'm a bit speechless, so i'll hand it over to you. what do you think to that? >> i think it's a joke. i mean, what? it's an attempt to do, really, if you're serious, is to clean up the reputation of ed davey as somebody who was part of a coalition government and a minister in a coalition government, which he now tries to pretend, you know, he's he's attacking, you know, he was there for putting up the university fees. he was there in charge for a period of the post office, not the only minister in charge of the post office scandal, but he was for a time in charge of it. so he wants to present himself as a nice, lovely, rollicking, sweet person who had nothing to do with all of that. so it's trying to clean up his reputation, and i don't think it's really washing. people are this is a serious election. i think people are worried about, seriously worried about the direction of the country. and there's a real choice in front of them. and ed davey is not part of that choice fundamentally, you know, if they, at the moment, they're not they, at the moment, they're not the third largest party in westminster. the snp is bigger than they are. >> yeah, but they're doing very well in the polls. lib dems

well, let's see what happens on fri day. >> friday. >> but i mean, his ambition is that he might if he gets more seats than the snp, he'll score that as a win. well, since the snp only stands in scotland, i don't think that's really, you know, much of a triumph. that's that's his the extent of his ambition. he's not a serious figure in this election. the choice is conservative or labour government. that's it. >> i always ask you this at home, but are you, for example, a former, subpostmaster when you see these kind of things, how does that make you feel? of course, many people say that mr bates tried to meet with mr ed davey, and that meeting was not forthcoming. does it insult you? do you think the past is the past? life moves on. give me your thoughts. what do you make to me? all. >> yeah. i mean, it's hard to believe, isn't it? like what? what is he thinking of? what? what? who is advising him to do stunt after ridiculous stunt like this? i mean, it doesn't bother me. i don't care what he's trying to do is desperately get somebody to notice him

because the truth is not. not actually this election. it's not even about labour. it's all about the tories, isn't it? this is the election where the country decides we've had enough of the tories and we want them out and as i say, labour's only in the election because they've become moderate mainstream , become moderate mainstream, reasonable and they're now electable. but like the lib dems are not in the election at all. i mean, who could tell you a single lib dem policy? who cares about anything i say or do? >> i can tell you a lib dem policy, they want to strengthen social care, for example. and actually, whilst i think the bulk of what ed davey has done is absolutely it's just embarrassing really, if that was my dad, i would just be trying to disown him rapidly because i think it's cringeworthy. but one of the things that he has done, and it really had cut through with me, perhaps it did with some other parents, was when he did that piece with his son. i mean, it divided opinions some people have said that he shouldn't have have even have done that. but actually when he

was talking with his son, who has additional needs and he was talking about the social care sector and all the failures that have gone on there and actually wanting to invest more money in resolving that sector. that was a that was a sensible thing. >> don't don't you think that he's cheapened that with, with this kind of nonsense? because, i mean, this is not even just a one off. i mean, i don't know how many he's done, but he's doing these, he's doing this kind of nonsense every day, isn't he? if he's actually a serious politician with serious things to say, and he wants to have a serious conversation with the country about his son's additional needs and other people with social care needs, like, how is he doing it any good? by bungee jumping? >> yeah, and it's not to take him seriously. it's not just bungee jumping, is it? i mean, there he is now, in his, tight lycra, coming down a water slide. what else have i seen him do? i've seen him go down hills, with his legs akimbo on push bikes. i'm sure i will have missed some more antics . it's missed some more antics. it's gone on. he's there. i don't think that's a silly antic. actually, he's doing cpr. i think that's quite sensible. >> i don't think that's an

election stunt, actually, no, that's an old film of him doing cpr. and of course it is sensible. yeah, yeah. >> i don't know what that's doing in my, montage of ed davey election gaffes. that's that's it. because that is a sensible one. i will give him credit for that. yeah, look, let's talk also then about sir keir starmer, because he said if he does get elected as the prime minister, he's essentially going to down tools on a friday night at 6:00 to spend time with his family. i can only assume that he knows that jubilee tavern opens on a friday night. and thatis opens on a friday night. and that is true. choosing to in, me to watch our goings on for the day. that's good quality family. >> good weekend kicks off. >> good weekend kicks off. >> yeah, i don't blame him for doing that. but on a serious note, do you think that you can have this kind of, strict line of work life balance if you want to be prime minister, no, but it is very difficult. i mean, any prime minister, anyone in a serious office like that is going to struggle to get to have the right amount of time for their family and for their friends. well, they will see their family even if relations deteriorate to some extent. almost worse is the fact they

stop seeing their friends. they don't see their friends at all. they get cut off socially because the pressure of the job is so much that there's hardly ever any of that chance to have an evening out, or an evening where you kick off your shoes or whatever it is that you would do with your friends, and it's going to be difficult for keir starmer, as it has been for nearly every other prime minister who's had a family, and he'll have to find it to give him credit. he'll have to find if he's prime minister, if he's elected, he will have to find his way through that. and it won't be easy straight off. but no, he will not be able to say, i'm switching off the mobile at 6:00 on a friday, you know, let me know what happens on monday morning. do you agree with that? you can't be like that. >> yeah, i basically do agree with that. and keir starmer knows that. i mean keir starmer was the was the director of pubuc was the was the director of public prosecutions. he was basically the chief executive of the crown prosecution service with seven. father was a toolmaker, 7000 staff, half of the bit he talks about less is half £1 billion budget, 7000 staff, half of them lawyers. he's actually, you know, he's been at the heart of government .

been at the heart of government. he's run big, serious organisations, like on a tiny fraction of the scale of being prime minister of the country. but he knows that if something happens at 6:30 on a friday or half past six in the morning, i mean, it doesn't matter when it happens , if he needs to be happens, if he needs to be disturbed, he'll be disturbed and they won't think. i mean, they will think twice, but he's not going to get the time with his family that he would like. >> so why say it then? why say it, this is what i. that's really the interesting question. this is what i'm quoting. we've had a strategy that emphatic way as if as if it was realistic. >> it's not realistic. >> it's not realistic. >> yeah. this is in case you don't know what i'm talking about. i will give you the quote. he's apparently told virgin radio, we've had a strategy in place and we'll try to keep to it, which we carve out really protected time for the kids. so on a friday, and i've been doing this for years, i've been doing this for years, i will not do a work related thing after 6:00 pretty well. come what may. so is there a few exceptions but that what we do? so why say that? >> well, because. because what he's saying is if we're not

going to plan anything on a friday night, i'll keep friday night free for the family, and we'll make a real effort to protect that. and i believe he has done that, and i believe he will do that. but it'll get a lot less friday nights from next week onwards than he has been ever used to in the past. guaranteed. because stuff just happens, doesn't it? >> certainly does. >> certainly does. >> i wouldn't if i was a labour cabinet hoping to be a labour cabinet minister after the election, therefore be expecting the telephone to ring after 6:00 on a friday. if you haven't been rung by 6:00. ladies and gentlemen, if you haven't been called by 6:00 on friday, you are not in keir's cabinet. >> there you go. and if you do want a bit of quality family time, get huddled around that surfer. watch dewbs& co because dup tavern does open at 645 every friday. it is start to your weekend. that's what i say. look, let's try something a bit different on this programme, shall we? because i often run polls on social media, i use twitter and x, and many of you get in touch with me and say, well, michelle, we can't even involve ourselves in this conversation because we don't

have twitter or x. well, here you go. this one is for you. let's try it, shall we? because i'm wondering tonight, do you think ed davey antics are convincing you to vote lib dem or not? if you agree, text. yes, so what you have to do? this is a text thing so you can get your telephones out. you can text gb yes or gb no. quite self—explanatory there. if you think yes, do yes. and if you think yes, do yes. and if you think no, say no. you text your answer to 63333. now i do have to be clear. there is a cost to this text will cost £0.50 per message plus your standard network rate. of course you've got to be over 18, and if you've got to be over 18, and if you've got your mum and dad's phone, you do have to ask their permission. if you're not 18, the vote closes at 6:45 pm. and texts and after that will not be counted. but you might be charged for. if you want full ts and cs, go to the website and i'll read the results of that poll out before the end of the programme. after the break, i want to talk to you about the goings on in france. have you seen it? macron called that snap election, didn't he? i've got to say he has been well and truly

humiliated what happened on let's look at it after the

break. hello there. i'm michelle dewberry. this is dewbs& co, and we're with you until 7:00 tonight. alongside with my panel remain, i've got the former labour mp, shaun simon and the life peer in the house of lords, daniel moylan. i started my programme just with a little bit of niceness. you know, there's so much ridiculousness that goes on in this world. so i did put up a photograph at the top of the show. i'll just bring that up again. this is of course, i was saying it's tony hudgell. he, couldn't make the garden party at buckingham palace because he got stuck in traffic. so i was just giving him a virtual high five and sending him a lot of love. and one of my viewers has just got in touch saying, can you just tell us who that little girl is in that picture as well? well, yes, leila o'donovan, she's called she's 11 years old. she also couldn't make that garden party ehhen couldn't make that garden party either. very, very sadly, she is a brilliant tumour patient. and

of course, i wish her all the very best as well. and i do apologise. it's probably slightly rude of me not to mention her at the same time as tony as well. but you know what? both of them just incredibly brave and inspirational. children and again, i send them lots and lots of love, look , lots and lots of love, look, speaking about things that are just very , how shall we say this just very, how shall we say this amusing to some people? i've got to say, the situation over in france, you might be familiar with some of the goings on there. president macron basically, through i was going to say threw his toys out the pram. but let me just rephrase. he decided to do a bit of a shock election. it really caught people unaware this was off the back of the results of the european election. he decided to let the french people have their say about what it is they want their country to look like . their country to look like. well, he probably didn't predict, actually, that marine le pen's party was then going to do what it actually did because on sunday, her party, the national rally, they secured 33% of the vote, this is really sent ructions through a lot of people. it's been called, a

european earthquake . of course, european earthquake. of course, you know, the term far right is being thrown out today more times than i've had cups of tea. and i've had a lot of them today, what do you make to it, daniel moylan? well, i think first of all, we have to be very careful in saying what is going to happen now in parliament in france, because these are first round elections. >> they have second round elections next sunday. and the way in which it works in france, i can't explain it in detail, but they can do deals. and in the past they've done these deals. >> let's just call them tactical votes and then people will kind of know what it's like tactical voting. >> we may have tactical candidate withdrawals, candidates pulling out and so on.and candidates pulling out and so on. and doing deals across constituencies. and in the past, they've used this mechanism to keep the marine le pen party, away from power . the difficulty away from power. the difficulty this time is that she's got so many votes in the first round that it might be difficult for them to do that. also, there was an astonishingly high turnout. it's a very unusual high turnout election, 66.7. >> that was that was 47.5% at

the last 1 in 2022. yeah. >> so it's a big turnout, which also has an effect on the way in which the system works, because there are rules about turnout as well. so we can't be absolutely sure what's going to happen, whether she'll be able to or a nominee. who is this young man called bardella? will be able to form a government, we don't know that yet. what it is, is the it is the breaking up in western europe. it's been going on for some time. and in britain of the sort of technocratic consensus about how we run the country without really having much connection with what people think, and that's breaking up in france in a very dramatic sort of way at the moment . and i of way at the moment. and i think it will have very long term ructions. whoever forms the government will write, macron is very much a lame duck now. >> so what do you think it's worth? >> have they not got tv or the internet in france? i mean, it just it defies belief. what does that macron sees? the prime minister of the uk being,

incredibly far behind in the polls for months and months on end and calling a snap snap election and finding out that it doesn't get any better at all. it seems really terrible. and he's cruising for an absolute disaster. they could at least have put off for six months. then he, macron does terribly in the european election and thinks i'll do exactly the same as rishi sunak's done in the uk, and sure enough, he's got exactly the same result. i think when it comes to it as, as we've heard, well, we don't know what's going to happen in the second round. my hunch is that the marine le pen probably won't end up forming a government, but clearly she very, very possibly could. and that's never happened before. >> you see, you say, you know, either not watching what happens in other countries . actually, i in other countries. actually, i think there is such, a huge amount of political arrogance that goes on with so many people right across the establishment, people throw this , terminology people throw this, terminology around, like far right. this

racist, that xenophobic, that they throw it around like confetti. and what they basically mean is if you have the audacity to want control of your borders, if you want the audacity to have defined immigration policies that are actually stuck to if you don't want your communities and neighbourhoods to change beyond any recognition when you've consistently voted against it, then if you're if you fit into those categories, too many politicians, if you ask me, are calling those people far right . calling those people far right. they are attacking them, they are smearing them. and in doing so , they're hoping to silence so, they're hoping to silence and suppress them and what they're actually achieving is they're actually achieving is the exact opposite, because people have had enough of it now, before, if you were called far right or whatever, it would be awful. you would think, oh gosh, many people now , when gosh, many people now, when they're called far right, it almost just makes them laugh, not because they're undermining the genuine far right or they think that's amusing or funny , think that's amusing or funny, but because the terminology has become so misused and so ridiculous that the things that it actually is used to describe now are, to many people,

sensible policies such as controlling your border. >> i think there's a lot, a lot of truth in that. and i think it's i think it's been i think and i think it's true what you say. it's true all all over europe, certainly, and maybe all over the world. i think it's more true in france than it is here. i think it's a problem here. i think it's a problem here. i think there is a tendency for political elites in the uk in all in all the big parties, when they look, for instance, at nigel, nigel farage, when they look at reform, to be, to be a bit sneery about it, a bit contemptuous a bit and, and not not to think, not to think for themselves. well, hang on, these are, these are millions of british citizens who are , who british citizens who are, who are minded to support these ideas. so maybe we better think about that a bit more carefully and take it a bit more seriously. but having said that, just to finish just just on the other hand, i think if you're talking if you talk about marine le pen, i think the things that you've described are only part of that story. i think that is a racist party. i think i think

she well, because if you look at the things that marine le pen and jordan bardella and jean—marie le pen before the seem right through that movement ever since it's been. >> hang on. i thought she got rid of her dad. >> well, her dad's not the leader of the party anymore because she ousted him. but but it's she she says and has said many of the same things that he said. like what, so i haven't got quotes memorised. >> well, how do you memorise it? they're racist. then if you can't remember what they said? >> well, because i remember that they've said racist things. i just haven't memorised the racist things. >> you can remember that they've said racist things, but you can't remember what the racist things they've said are. yeah, i think that's a bit weird. >> not not at all. not at all. no. >> okay, what was you going to say, danielle? >> i was gonna say this is partly this french thing. is partly this french thing. is partly about the far right, but it's also about the far left. i mean, the second biggest group, the second biggest winners in this election. that took place yesterday is a motley collection

of left wing parties who are not nice, cosy. you know, sort of social democrat types. they are they are extreme left wingers and, and they have done very well too. what's happened is if you like, the centre has collapsed now that centre consists partly of macron's party, which is sort of gone down to 20, but also consists of the traditional old fashioned republican , what we would think republican, what we would think of as like british conservatives type party. admittedly, they did vanish quite a lot. some years ago, but from. but the thing is, is the polarisation as much as the move to the right that's of interest. so i think just looking it through the le pen side of the story misses something important, the question you haven't asked michel, which i suppose i'll suggest to you, is how will this will this have an effect on people going to the polls on thursday in this country? you sound surprised. like we don't have the tv and the internet

here. like sean said, i think , here. like sean said, i think, what do i think that the outcome in france will affect people voting here? >> yes. i don't think that someone is going to go to the streets and say, do you know what? i was going to vote for ed davey because i saw his bungee jump. and now, because i've seen what happened with marine le pen in france, i'll change my vote. no, but what i do think is reflective. and you see it all the time. there is this notion that if you want the things that i've just described, i won't repeat them. i don't want to send you all to sleep at home, but let's just simply simplify them and say, control of borders. if you want that. the smearing that goes on and the sneering that goes on and the calls of racism. and with all due respect to you, i mean, you're telling me how racist these parties are. and then when i ask you to explain why you can't remember, but yet you've memorised the label of racism in your mind, but you don't know why that is. and i think this happens to a lot of people. >> it's a bit more than that. so i had a french grandfather who lived in a, in a in a suburb on the edge of marseille, which is

a very, very, very, very mixed big, big, big city with an awful lot of social problems and huge immigration and the so i spent a lot of time there. i, you know, throughout my life have kind of met these people. he was he was a very he was well to the right. my a very he was well to the right. my grandfather, he knew a lot of these people. i spent time with these people. i spent time with these people. i didn't remember i didn't memorise what they said. but like, i know a racist when i meet one. >> but then i just think that this label and this smearing, it is absolutely replicated in this country as well. i'll give you a tiny little example today in newspaper, i tweeted out a video on twitter x and it was it was absolutely awful. and it was what i would describe as absolutely unacceptable, vile racism. there was ladies walking down the street, that were muslim. they had, you know, their headscarves on and all the rest of it. and people, whoever was filming this video was

running up and snatching off their headscarf. i mean, absolutely disgusting, horrendous behaviour. i really don't condone that at all. so they tweeted this out and people all very, very quickly in the comments were saying, this is what nigel farage et al have created. i wonder what party this person is going to be voting for. well actually, when you played the video, what you actually heard was the person that was doing the snatching was a lady speaking in arabic saying something about what was going on in iran. and ladies, they're being forced to wear the headscarf. and here we have a democracy and you don't have to wear it. it was all of that kind of thing. so absolutely was not, the story that had been painted and absolutely echoed within the tweets. and i found that absolutely fascinating. so do i think marine le pen will change voting outcomes on thursday? no. but i also do think that what's going on there with the smearing of what i would call often very just ordinary people with concerns, is being echoed on the streets in britain. and i, for

one, will be personally fascinated to see the outcome of the likes of reform uk after the election here and see what happens there. and anyway, it looks. speaking about france and immigration and borders and all the rest of it. after the break, i want to look at the antics in glastonbury. did you see it, a so—called banksy artwork. it was a blow up migrant. small boat was being passed around to cheers and all the rest of it. let's look at it after the

break. hi there. i'm michelle dewberry . hi there. i'm michelle dewberry. this is dewbs& co alongside me. my this is dewbs& co alongside me. my panel remains, paul says thank you for that story about tony hudgell. he'd never even heard of that little boy before . heard of that little boy before. yeah.i heard of that little boy before. yeah. i honestly advise all of you to go and look up his story. it is just absolutely inspirational. that's the only word i've got for that little boy, andrew says , michelle, can boy, andrew says, michelle, can i just ask what planet is

starmer on, saying that he's not going to work past 6:00 in the evening? credit where it's due, andrew. it wasn't every day. it was only a friday. does that make it better for you or not, someone else says , michelle, can someone else says, michelle, can we change his theme tune to dolly parton's 9 to 5? that should be the labour anthem. i'm not sure that one will fly anywhere. look, speaking of music, it was glastonbury this weekend . was you there? is it weekend. was you there? is it your kind of thing or not? well, one of the things that have got people talking there was this so—called artwork from, banksy. apparently it was, a mocked up small boat with migrants in it. it was passed around, the festival goers look at that. they can. i mean, it's almost like crowd surfing it, i've heard this described as epic. momentous historical. many, many people actually celebrating that. and if you can see it, i mean, i think it's pretty damn

vile, basically, so it really has divided opinion, i've got to say, our home secretary, he was speaking out about it as well. let's have a listen . let's have a listen. >> these are the pictures of it. we now know this was a banksy art installation. how do you know what that is? commentary about ? about? >> but there are there are a bunch of people there joking and celebrating about criminal actions, which costs lives. people die. people die in the mediterranean. they die in the channel. this is not funny. it is vile. is this? this is a celebration of the loss of life in the channel. how daniel moylan, what do you think to it ? moylan, what do you think to it? >> i think that's the whole glastonbury thing is pretty disgusting to be perfectly frank. it's where daniel rich middle classes go to wallow in excrement while sort of popping off on weed and imagining reassuring themselves they're all good people because they can enjoy a good left wing joke . enjoy a good left wing joke. >> i think it just sounds all i

want to hear. >> what i want to hear from banksy is very straightforward. if you want to come out and say banksy, that the criminal gangs who are charging these people three, four, five, £6,000 or selling them into bonded labour, the criminal gangs should be rounded up , arrested the criminal gangs should be rounded up, arrested and the criminal gangs should be rounded up , arrested and crushed rounded up, arrested and crushed and that every lawful method should be used to close down their trade. then i would be with you 100. you say that first and then i will listen to your talk about compassion . but if talk about compassion. but if this is what the message of this is . but that's this is what the message of this is. but that's what i want to hear these people say. these are the evil people doing this. stop attacking our government . which attacking our government. which of any party stop attacking britain about this? let's go for these criminal gangs and you should be out there leading that. and this should not be, in my view, a sort of joke installation with a load of people pumped up on weed and drink. >> what do you think, twitch. >> what do you think, twitch. >> i don't think it was very well thought through. i think he was almost certainly, given what we know about banksy and what what he's like and what he cares

about. he was trying to make a serious point, i suspect, i mean, obviously, like, i don't know, banksy. i've never met banksy, so i don't want to speak for him. but you could be banksy. >> well, do we know who he is yet ? yet? >> i think people know, but i don't. but, it's not you. >> can you just. yeah. we just have this out. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> i categorically deny the rumour that i am banksy. right, so i assume . no. so i assume. no. >> he's trying to make a serious point from the point of view of the asylum seeker. that's where he's coming from. clearly, it's not intended as a joke. and james cleverly pretty preposterously jumping on the bandwagon, saying it's disgraceful. they're all laughing about it. it was obviously a bad idea to try and make a serious point like that at glastonbury. late at night, when there is a very obviously very, very jovial atmosphere. to say the least. and the pictures look terrible. they look absolutely disgusting, viewers will remember it was only recently a little girl. i'm sure she was about seven, she was trampled to death on one of

those small births. so whilst you would be aware of that knowledge and you would then sit there and think, i know what i'm going to do, i'm going to take it to a festival. this kind of mocked up bert with these people and somehow think that that is cool. i mean, to me, there's something not quite right with your thought process there. and let me tell you now, ladies and gents, right. because the double standards that exist in our, society at the moment , standards that exist in our, society at the moment, can you imagine? just imagine for a nanosecond there was a huge reform uk rally. i think it was in birmingham yesterday . can you in birmingham yesterday. can you imagine for a single millisecond, if somebody in that audience which, by the way, i don't think anyone ever would have done, but if anyone would have done, but if anyone would have even have contemplated doing anything like that, can you imagine what the front pages would have said about those people in attendance at that rally? but because this is people that perhaps, lean perhaps to the left of the political spectrum, then passing

around that blow up migrant, bert is okay. apparently that's sending a message to the establishment , sending a message to the establishment, i'm going to go and i'm going to take a break and i'm going to take a break and calm down. i'm going to calm down. everybody, let me tell you this, right? i've got a really staggering story, after the break, if you've got children or grandchildren, do you think it's safe now for them to play out after dark, like what many of us used used to we we re we were kids? i'll show you why

hi there. i'm michelle dewberry. this is dewbs& co. keeping you company until 7:00 tonight. the former labour mp shaun simon and the life peer in the house of lords, daniel moylan, remain alongside me, look, i don't know where you used to holiday when you was a kid, but scarborough was a particular favourite and still is. i think to many of us

northerners. anyway, there's reports coming out from there now that apparently lawless drug, a knife culture means that many people living there now have decided it's not safe for their children to be out on the streets. now, i already found that quite interesting, because another story that caught my eye is what they're up to in sheffield. is there a proposal now ? and it's like what some now? and it's like what some people are calling like a mocked up , almost like what many up, almost like what many people, their words, not mine, are calling like a council estate. and it would be this safe kind of environment where people used to knock about when they were kids in and around their home, estate. they're they're literally their own neighbourhood where you used to be able to kick a ball, have fun, play. and it was safe. and i think if we've got to the point where we have to mock up streets so that people can play football, i nearly said, kick your ball because that's what i call it for my three year old. but if you can play it football in these mocked up streets because the real ones are not safe, that is not good. >> well, you could go straight on from glastonbury, couldn't you?i on from glastonbury, couldn't you? i mean, you know, go and relive your youth knocking a football. middle classes could

go relive their youth knocking a football round against a garage door , i suppose. i have no idea door, i suppose. i have no idea what this thing is about. i'm very worried about scarborough. i'm worried about our seaside towns. i think one of the problems, you know, i think going back a little bit in history, boris was very this is a large part of this, what levelling up was meant to be about. because everyone recognised that our seaside towns were failing. and of course, the fact that he got blown off course by covid and, you know, and then when then bofis you know, and then when then boris was gone and the whole thing and it's terribly sad because the seaside towns could because the seaside towns could be really important. not necessarily. i know the holiday business has gone everyone's you know, they're all on the continent now and so on. i know that most of the holiday business has gone that you enjoyed when you were younger, but but nonetheless, they've got lots of attractions and some of them are very beautiful. and there should be a strategy for our seaside towns that would involve jobs. when you have jobs, you've got people. young people get involved in things and the whole thing improves generally, i do would worry about it. yeah. it isn't the whole of scarborough. let's be

fair . this is one whole of scarborough. let's be fair. this is one particular patch of scarborough we're talking about . scarborough is talking about. scarborough is still a nice place to be sure. >> two things. so on the one hand, kind of on the on the policy level that there's been an increase in crime because there's not enough police on the beat, because there's people have not got enough money in their pockets as they had previously . and as we know, if previously. and as we know, if you start to fix those things, you start to fix those things, you will be able to tackle crime . there's lots of evidence about that. but i do think there's also been a trend in the last 20, 30 years in this country, of which there's also a lot of evidence of parents becoming more and more and more overprotective of their children, like 20 years ago, 80% of kids used to walk to school. now it's 80% of kids who go to school in the car with their parents and kids did used to just go out and play and come home when it was dark. and the vast majority of those kids, the vast majority of those kids, the vast majority of the time, were fine. and actually, you know, they learned a lot and they they learned a lot about growing up

and other kids and other people and other kids and other people and relationships that they don't necessarily learn in their bedroom. but there's a lot of computer games it feels anyway. >> there's a lot more wrong'uns roaming the streets these days . roaming the streets these days. >> i'm not sure if that is true. i feel like, you know, i grew up like i grew up in the 80s in birmingham, and there was a lot of wrong'uns on the street and you could get into trouble, but you could get into trouble, but you could get into trouble, but you could also learn to keep out of trouble. >> true. i mean, it wasn't that long ago some one of the most horrendous stories that i remember, even discussing. do you remember that, it was really not that long ago. was that little girl. i'm sure she was only about nine years of age. and she was taken outside of harrods. and i mean, if you don't know, london very well, take my word for it. that is quite a well to do area. a little girl was snatched in broad daylight by some guy. she was then drugged and sexually assaulted. thank goodness she was found and reunited with her parents. safe and well. or many hours later. i mean, did that stuff, some of that stuff used to happen with the way it

happens now. or perhaps, i don't know, we're more aware of it now because of social media, perhaps. let me know your thoughts. and do you live in a seaside town? i'd love to know what you think to how they seem to be declining. and do you houday to be declining. and do you holiday there anymore? because if we want seaside places to thrive, then it means that all of us have to spend our money holidaying in them. do you still do that or not? i won't even state the obvious, by the way, about how many of the seaside hotels have been turned over to asylum seeker accommodations. no, i'll zip my mouth on that one instead. i will tell you if you got involved on the poll earlier on, i was asking you about ed davey's antics, things like the bungee jumping and all the rest of it. i asked you as that made you, more likely to vote lib dem or not. get this everybody. 6% of you said yes , everybody. 6% of you said yes, those antics are more likely to make you vote lib dem, luckily, many of you have a lot of sense, 94% of you texted in and said, no, those antics are not more likely to make you vote lib dem. look, that is all i've got time

for. thank you. if you got involved with that and thank you to everyone that's watched and listened, listened. i very much appreciate your company as i appreciate your company as i appreciate both of your companies. this evening. thank you. to look, we're going to get through it everybody. we've only got three days to go. and don't forget i will be live at that election party in essex. we're going to do things slightly differently here on gb news oh yes we are. cannot wait for it. but for now that's all i've got time for. thank you very much. don't go anywhere though because camilla tominey is up next. no night . night. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on gb news >> good evening. here is your latest gb news weather forecast brought to you by the met office. looking ahead to tomorrow there will be some showery rain around but also some bright sunny spells. but first thing for some it is going to be a bit cloudy and a bit damp because of a frontal system that has already pushed its way

in from the northwest and is currently making its way south eastwards as we go overnight. so eastern southern parts of england likely to have quite a bit of cloud and some drizzly rain as we go through the night and head towards dawn tomorrow. elsewhere, some clear spells mixed in, a few showers possible, but temperatures really aren't going to drop a huge amount , particularly really aren't going to drop a huge amount, particularly in the east and southeast where we have that thicker cloud. it is going to be a pretty mild start to the day tomorrow, but like i said, a cloudy, damp, drizzly start here further north, a bit of a brighter start, particularly across eastern parts of scotland. a good deal of sunshine early on here. further west we will see some showery rain pushing its way in and that's going to turn a bit more persistent, a bit more widespread as we go through the day across northern ireland, much of northern england through the morning, it's looking mostly dry, some bright sunny spells. watch out for a few showers across parts of wales, perhaps northwest england , and then northwest england, and then a real west east split across much of central southern england. with that cloud and that drizzly rain i mentioned across eastern parts. most of that, though, will clear away as we go through

the day. and so it is going to turn a little bit drier and brighter here. further north, a slightly different story. yes, there will be some sunny breaks around, but i am expecting some showery rain to push its way in across parts of scotland, northern england and northern ireland. and some of this could be on the heavy side. temperatures around average for the time of year, just about scraping into the low 20s towards the south. wednesday looks like a pretty wet day for many of us. the rain may not be especially heavy, but it's going to be fairly widespread. most places likely to see some wet weather at times could even be some low cloud, some hill fog, and some strong, blustery winds to watch out for as well. for many, thursday looks like it will be a brighter day, but could be quite windy for some of us before more rain on friday. bye bye. >> looks like things are heating up boxt boilers sponsors of weather on

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