>> good morning. it's mark dolan alongside tatiana sanchez, tatiana , you got to roll the tatiana, you got to roll the stroller thing. there you go. we are in for ellie and ben. this is saturday morning live. i think we're going to have a laugh aren't we. >> absolutely. >> absolutely. >> it's great to have your company as well this morning. we've got an action packed show for you today. we've of course, got all of the day's top stories with ceo and founder of youth vote uk, alex cairns, and broadcaster esther stanhope. >> brilliant stuff. and we'll be going stateside to hear the latest on the us presidential election. what have trump and harris been up to this week and

why does it matter to you and me.7 >> and we'll meet this week's greatest britain the 13 year old boy who cycled the 96 mile west highland way in just 25 hours for charity. >> brilliant stuff. and we will sit down with former world record holder and two time olympic medallist fatima whitbread. we'll be finding out about her amazing career and get her expert predictions on this year's games. and what does she think of that controversial boxing row .7 also . boxing row.7 also. also, the latest on the tory leadership. and what about this one? tatiana? andy murray retires. and in the papers today, his wife kim has been talking about the fact that he's going to be at home and she doesn't know how she's going to cope. >> yeah. what will she do? yeah, well, that's sick of him. >> well, he might do some of the ironing, but i know she'll drive him mad. ask mrs. dolan and

don't forget, we want to hear from you. we would love to hear what you think . send your views what you think. send your views and post your comments. head to gbnews.com/yoursay. >> but before we do anything else, ray addison has all of the latest headlines . latest headlines. >> cheers, guys. good morning. just 10:01. our top stories this houn just 10:01. our top stories this hour. eight people were arrested and three police officers hospitalised last night following rioting in sunderland city centre . videos posted on city centre. videos posted on social media showed a fire at a former police office in the city centre, while a mosque was also targeted. vehicles were overturned and set on fire as rioters clashed with officers . rioters clashed with officers. police in riot gear came under attack as protesters set off fire extinguishers and threw rocks and bottles . anti—islamic rocks and bottles. anti—islamic chants were also heard as mounted police tried to keep the peace. northumbria police say arrests were made for offences including violent disorder and

burglary. former police officer oliver laurence told us these protests distract from the victims. >> troubling scenes overnight and obviously police bracing themselves for what could be a very busy rest of the summer and equally a very busy weekend with protests and rallies planned right across the country. and obviously we do say this violence is totally uncalled for, detracts from the real need to support families who are grieving at the moment. but there is a real challenge for here government to really overcome these issues bring communities back together. >> well, dozens more protests are expected to take place this weekend in the wake of the southport stabbings campaign group hope not hate says more than 30 are planned across the country over the next two days. it's understood an extra 70 prosecutors are on stand to by charge those who do cause violent disorder. a joint statement by muslim, christian and jewish religious leaders has accused some of using the attack to spread islamophobia. chris phillips, former head of the

national counter terrorism security office, told us the police face a real challenge. >> i think we're in for a certainly a week now of, difficulties for policing, our city centres are a bit of a tinder box, and i think it could all go very badly wrong unless the police do deal with it. really effectively. >> the protests have been linked to the southport knife attack, where three young girls were killed at a dance class on monday. last night, downing street joined with other landmarks across the country, lighting up pink in memory of seven year old elsie dot stancombe , six year old bebe stancombe, six year old bebe king and nine year old alice dasilva aguiar, eight other children were injured, along with two adults, two people have been charged following an investigation into offences under the national security act, 22 year old jakeem barrington rose of croydon and 19 year old jay oguns azmina, of wandsworth,

have both been charged with aggravated arson. rose was also charged with possession of an offensive weapon. they are due to appear at westminster magistrates court today . police magistrates court today. police have launched a murder investigation following a fatal stabbing in norwich. officers were called to paragon place last night where a man was pronounced dead at the scene . pronounced dead at the scene. norfolk constabulary believe it's an isolated incident with no wider risk to the public. they are appealing to anyone who may have witnessed the events to get in touch. now donald trump has agreed to debate vice president kamala harris. he accepted an offer from fox news for a televised face off on september 4th. it's not yet known if the presumptive democratic nominee will agree to take part, although she has previously indicated that she is ready. trump says the debate will feature a full arena audience. errol malkovitch , audience. errol malkovitch, spokesman for republicans overseas, told us trump is annoyed and starting to call the

shots . shots. >> he agreed to do two debates with president biden , but with president biden, but unfortunately, president biden didn't have the ability to go the length of the full length of the length of the full length of the distance. and he, donald trump, feels a little bit cheated that he spent all of this money and campaigning against somebody who is obviously a zombie candidate in addition to that, he's got a current litigation with george stephanopoulos and abc, and so he no longer feels that since the terms have changed, that he should have to do the debate there. and it looks like as of this morning, per his own messages on truth social, that there will be a debate. it will be in pennsylvania, and it will be in pennsylvania, and it will be two days before early voting starts . starts. >> that's going to be a banger, right? those are the latest gb news headlines. for now. i'm ray addison moore in around an hours addison moore in around an hour's time for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code , alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts .

slash alerts. >> thank you ray, a happy saturday one and all. thank god the weekend is here sunshine. that man is definitely. and by the way, the weather is all right too. so a good weekend beckons. but a big political headache for sir keir starmer. another night of serious violence on the streets as protesters attack a police station, set a car on fire and surround a mosque in sunderland while police have described the incident as criminal thuggery, with eight people being arrested and three police officers hospitalised overnight, and three police officers hospitalised overnight , that's hospitalised overnight, that's as the prime minister warned protesters they would face the full force of the law in a bid to crack down on the violence. joining us now live from whitehall is gb news reporter adam cherry. adam, a big test for the prime minister. he doesn't want a summer of violence and of chaos on the streets . streets. >> yeah that's right mark. the honeymoon period is well and truly over, isn't it, yeah. the

prime minister saying the police need to brace for what could be a very difficult week, or indeed , a very difficult week, or indeed, you know, at least a few, a few days. the home secretary was stood outside the home office here, the home secretary, yvette coopen here, the home secretary, yvette cooper, saying those who participate in these riots and these protests will pay the price for their thuggery. it's a very difficult tightrope for them to walk, not least because in just a few weeks time, we expect the prime minister to release certain prisoners from prison early because there's overcrowding. so if these scenes do get ugly, how they manage thatis do get ugly, how they manage that is an open question. nonetheless. police, as i say, riot police told to get ready even within the next few hours. actually, for what could be a difficult day for them. >> well, that's right, i was on air last night, adam, and we had to pretty much ditch the running order of the show because things kicked off in sunderland, a police station razed to the ground, two cars overturned, another mosque attacked. so, you

know, the atmosphere out there is very febrile and the home secretary and the prime minister will look on nervously over the next couple of days to see how this plays out . this plays out. >> yeah, absolutely. it's a waiting game, really. they're just hoping for the best and expecting the worst, i think. but as i say, you know, the question remains what they do with these people if they have to arrest them. there are limited spaces. just about a week ago, we were told that there were maybe 700 available spaces in prisons left. so they're facing a real crisis. as i say, the honeymoon period is well and truly over. >> adam, it could be said that it's fairly obvious what sparked these riots, but what do you think protesters are trying to achieve here? >> well, the reality is this started with some misinformation on twitter on x about the identity of the attacker in southport. and it is now that is

really the matchstick that has lit the fire here for these far right rioters in sunderland in liverpool, london, in fact we're told now there might be up to 30 of these protests over the next couple of days. this stuff spreads very quickly . and, you spreads very quickly. and, you know, the question of how you deal with that without interfering with with free speech is a very delicate and difficult matter, but nonetheless , it's getting nonetheless, it's getting serious here. and in fact, we might even see a protest here in london just this lunchtime . london just this lunchtime. >> adam. thank you very much for that. we'll speak to you later on in the program, but now to look through the top stories of today. we are delighted to be joined by ceo and founder of youth vote uk , alex cairns, and youth vote uk, alex cairns, and broadcaster esther stanhope. thank you very much for joining us, both of you. >> yeah . >> yeah. >> yeah. >> good to see both of you. hey, paul as well, esther tory leadership. does anyone care? >> i don't know, do you care, mark? >> i mean, i'm a political nerd, but i'm not a normal person. >> i tell you about this guy,

though, he is the guy that the guy that's been robert jenrick . guy that's been robert jenrick. robert jenrick. this is the problem. you don't even know his name. his name? robert jenrick. >> even his mother's not sure. >> even his mother's not sure. >> generic. generic. generic. i tell you what he reminds me of . tell you what he reminds me of. if william hague, tony blair and matt hancock had a love child. crumbs, you would get robert jenrick. that's what you think. >> that's one heck of a that's one heck of a threesome, alex. i mean, this is one of the big problems for the tories is that they're seeking a new leader. and i don't feel the public are particularly fussed about it. >> no, i think, you know, they obviously had a bad election . obviously had a bad election. everyone knows that. you know, i think they're in a difficult position. they don't know if that needs to go more to the right to kind of look at what reform are doing. they don't know if they want to come to the centre to potentially like, you know, from a policy perspective, actually get to where the lib dems are. and i think it's difficult because you're going to see a split in the tory party. you're going to see some that think the kemi badenoch of the world should be the leader, move the party to the right, and you're going to see some people like tom tugendhat. robert jenrick a little bit of the centrists. i guess. you know,

obviously it's a stretch to call them a centrist, but it's going to be an interesting time because they've really got to pick a leader and get behind them because if they split and we saw actually the normally the left vote is the one that splits this election, the, the right vote actually split . and that's vote actually split. and that's why reform and the tories actually kind of took votes away from each other. it's why labour did well. so they've got to come together. >> i think we were talking about this earlier when we were talking about is it the best of a bad bunch? you know, it's kind of like in a work scenario or any other scenario, someone, someone leaves and somebody else kind of feels like they. yeah >> gary from accounts gets a promotion. >> is it is it that kind of scenario? yeah. >> when you say best of a bad bunch isn't it the worst of a bad bunch? i mean, is it the best? really? is that all we can do? >> yeah. i mean, i think it's interesting if you look at maybe the last few decades in politics, there are just a handful of, of, i guess, political stars, you could say people that really had the x factor. maybe it was margaret thatcher, perhaps tony blair, and then maybe boris johnson. i know his time as prime minister was tumultuous, but if he had that amazing win in 2019 and he

got brexit across the line, these are generational talents and esther ghey, i'm not sure that they've got anyone like that they've got anyone like that in the current crop. >> i know people have been saying, oh, do we want these charismatic politicians? well actually yes, we want some charisma. please, keir starmer, please. can you get a little bit of charisma going for us? that's that's my message to him. but i think we do want people with charisma, okay. we don't want bumbling fools, but we do want people with personality. we want somebody that we can buy into people that are winning over hearts and minds. are these people winning over hearts and minds or are they just being politicians? >> i think that's the big question. what do you think, alex? >> yeah, no, i agree. i think, you know, if i look at all of them, i don't think any of them are going to be able to, you know, make everyone feel really energetic. you know, robert jenrick talked yesterday about getting lots of young people to become conservatives. and to be honest, i don't know if robert jenrick is someone that i'd want to go to the pub with on a friday night, you know, and that's the reality. >> you know, i think a lot of

them i agree with you about keir starmer. it's actually why a lot of people, especially young people, are really struggle to get them engaged in the election. you know, because the leaders were very dull and boring. and actually they've got to be relatable because you've got to be able to get behind a tory leader that you think you know what? they can relate to me in my life and not live in this bubble. and i look at the candidates and the things that they talk about, and they're very awkward, and i just don't think they're relatable to the public. and that's an issue because the tories, if they want to get back to power, they've got to become a broad church . yes. >> most definitely. well, i think the one to watch is kemi badenoch, who is probably the most compelling personality in the group. and i think if she did win, i think she would neutralise labour's identity politics because they wouldn't have a leg to stand on, would they? this is a woman of colour, leading potentially the opposition at that point. labour can't tick any boxes. can they? >> i know, and surely labour really feel uncomfortable about that because they've got a slight, let's call him. he's a little bit stiff isn't he, old keir starmer. so what we want is somebody who's a little bit more, as you said, relatable. somebody who ticks way more

boxes than they're ticking at the moment. and i think kemi is one to watch. >> yeah. now listen, politics is a brutal business isn't it? what happened? what happened to poor liz truss this week? >> she didn't get recognised by, i think it was an itv reporter. >> yes. it was someone in the industry who ought to know who she was. but that's the point about politics, isn't it ? you about politics, isn't it? you know, you're the cock of the walk and then bang, no one cares. >> what does it say about politics? and how could he not get recognised? she had a lettuce , a lettuce, she had lettuce. >> well, she had a. yeah, she had a lettuce. sort of, you know, representing her career which is withered on the line. but that's i mean, i actually felt quite i mean, is it wrong, alex, to feel sorry for politicians, but in on the 4th of july, when many tories got chucked out , you know, i know chucked out, you know, i know quite a few of these people, their lives have changed dramatically. they don't have status anymore. they don't have a house of commons pass. they don't have the salary. it's a bit of a kind of rude awakening, isn't it ? especially for isn't it? especially for a former prime minister like truss. >> yeah, it's probably going to

be a humbling. i think she was expecting. i saw the clip actually. i think she was expecting the presenter to turn to her and say, you know , former to her and say, you know, former prime minister liz truss, what do you think? and that didn't happen. it was a very awkward interview. i found myself kind of creasing watching it, interview. i found myself kind of creasing watching it , to be of creasing watching it, to be honest. it was just painful. but i think liz truss, the reality is, you know, i laugh because actually her time in office was really, really poor. and now she, you know, she's constantly on podcasts talking about this conspiracy that the bank of england and all these people were trying to get rid of her. and from the start, you know, they didn't like what she was talking about. the reality is she went too far, too fast. you know, they cut the 45% rate. you know, they cut the 45% rate. you know, she did lots of policies literally in six weeks. it's just not how it works. it has to be measured. she kind of i don't think sometimes i think does she run thinking she was going to win? i almost think she, she won and then she thought, oh, okay, now i'm prime minister. i better do all these things. you know, like she's just a bizarre lady. i mean that in the nicest possible way, but i just can't relate to her at all, honestly. i mean, i feel sorry for her. >> i mean, come on. i mean, she was the prime minister, and she's not recognised. but why isn't she recognised? because

she is a little bit kind of ordinary looking and sounding. >> she was hiding behind a big pair of sunglasses as well. >> oh yeah. >> oh yeah. >> well, there you go. i mean , >> well, there you go. i mean, that's i'm unrecognisable. >> i go around, you know, i keep the sunglasses on when i'm in tesco because otherwise it's just a stampede. do you know what i mean? >> speaking of, tesco gets awkward to go back to the lettuce thing. yeah, that was wilted. yes she got outlasted by a lettuce, didn't she? so some might say that she's not as recognisable. perhaps among younger people. maybe because she, she wasn't really in power for that long anyway, 44 days she didn't get a fair crack of the whip. >> now , esther, can we talk >> now, esther, can we talk about andy murray? because andy murray has retired, which is great news. and in the papers today, his lovely wife kim said, this is good. i'm glad he's retired because he can do some childcare now and a bit of housework. but you know all about relationships . housework. but you know all about relationships. this is going to be an adjustment for them, isn't it? >> absolutely. and, you know, as a as a father and a husband, as well, mark, that when you are at home, you are actually a big

pain in the because because you are kind of wired and you want to be doing stuff. and andy murray is like goal driven, can you imagine he's going to be like, i'm going to make chilli calocane, i'm going to make chilli like this and this. and you know, he's going to be like so focused and he's going to have so much energy. i would be terrified to live in the same house as andy murray. i know he kind of comes across as quite laid back. you know, he's a bit of a sean connery, but actually these people are driven and that's not going to stop just because he's retired. >> right? okay. >> right? okay. >> when you're when you've got a dnven >> when you're when you've got a driven parent and the parent is at home, they're a nightmare. so he needs to be seriously occupied. we've got to think of some hobbies. so maybe people could write in with some hobbies for andy murray. >> exactly. what could he do? >> exactly. what could he do? >> occupied. because he's going to be on fire with his kids. come on, come on. >> yeah, i think it's difficult because, to be fair, you know, he's been competing at the top level. he's been training, he's been travelling the world overnight. he stops, you know, and actually it's not just, you know, sporting athletes. we see anyone that retires. you know some of my older family, they retire, they go nuts within the first kind of few months. and

some of them even go back to work or have to do something. and for him, you know, how old is he? he's he's late 30s, i would say so, yeah. you know, so he's got, you know, he's the prime of his life. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> and actually it's difficult. but i think what he would do, i think he'll go into commentating. i think he'll get into coaching. i think he's going to have to, you know, because i think it's been really tough for him. i really feel for him. he's one of my, you know, sporting heroes and after 2017 and you know, his back problems and you know, his back problems and you know all of his medical problems, he really, i think competed in a tough era. you know people forget how difficult it was. he got to 11 grand slam finals in an era with roger, rafa and novak. i mean three arguably the best tennis players even arguably the best tennis players ever. and actually he managed to compete. and i think just as he was at his prime, he became injured. and that's really going to cut deep within him. and now he's having to retire, where after the last few years he hasn't really achieved anything. yeah. >> you see it with footballers. they sometimes turn to drink or god knows what else when they retire . yeah, some of them wind retire. yeah, some of them wind up @gbnews, which is a real shame. but and standing by him, andy murray is only 37. but

here's the other thing. tatiana will he be of any use at home? i mean, yes, he's an incredible tennis player, but i don't know. can he empty the dishwasher ? can he empty the dishwasher? >> because, you know, i think he would be able to tuc i think maybe i think he's got it. >> loading the dishwasher . not >> loading the dishwasher. not so good. >> but do you think he'll moan about the order of the plates and stuff because he does like a moan up doesn't he. >> he absolutely will be complaining about where the spoons go. >> he's grown since the old days, mark. he's grown. >> yeah, but i tell you what i think andy murray should be doing something like leading the youth of today and starting a big campaign. >> shouldn't he be doing the ironing? >> well, i don't, i wouldn't trust, isn't it. no, i wouldn't trust, isn't it. no, i wouldn't trust him with the ironing. >> probably not. it's not his core skill. >> well, here's my other thought about the marriage though, isn't it? kim's turn to have her career to have for her to be the most important person in the house? >>i house? >> i think she's quite into her art and painting and things like that. >> so isn't it time for him to stay at home, you know, feed the kids and all that? empty the dishwasher and let her career be the most important ?

the most important? >> so i doubt, i doubt he'll i doubt he'll do that. he'll have so much other stuff to do. punditry. maybe he'll join his mum . she has a tennis academy. mum. she has a tennis academy. he'll maybe do more with that. i think he'll have so much. >> but when does she. when does she get a break then. but. >> well, actually i remember actually there's a documentary about both of them . have a hotel about both of them. have a hotel in scotland actually i think they've, they've, they co—run and they think they've refurbished it. yeah. to be fair, you know, kim, you know, not just the hotel, but i'm sure she'll have other business ventures. you're right. i think it's the right thing to do. clearly. you know, andy murray has had to be out the house. you know, probably she's had to look after the kids. i think anyone that's at the top of their game when they retire, i think the only fair thing to do is, as you say, maybe take a step back and support your wife. >> yeah. that's it. >> yeah. that's it. >> let them send him to the hotel. yeah, that's not a bad idea, is it? >> by the way, wouldn't it be nice to live in a hotel? imagine that. just choose your favourite room. okay, alex and esther. we'll catch up with you later in the show. still to come? we will meet this week's greatest britain. >> but next we'll be delving into the olympic boxing controversy with duke mckenzie as a new development is coming in from the united nations this

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>> welcome back. now very strong views about the riots that we've seen in this country over the last few days. this from michael who is a gb news member who says as far as i'm concerned, these riots are little to do with those poor little girls and more to do with the fact that the population has had enough of the political class we've been lied to about the massive influx of undocumented young males invading our country and being looked after better than the indigenous population. i think that's the point about the riots, is that we have to have a grown up conversation. tatiana about why they've happened, clearly it's appalling. it's reprehensible. it's a disgrace . reprehensible. it's a disgrace. but if there is conflict in society, you need to understand

why it feels. >> perhaps there was some frustration simmering for a while. yeah. and this was almost, you know, what happened in southport , sadly, was almost in southport, sadly, was almost something that could have sparked this . and in fact, most sparked this. and in fact, most probably did. and now it feels like we're dealing with what was festering and simmering for a long time. >> most definitely. okay well welcome back. >> don't forget to keep sending me and mark questions about the topics in the news this week, and we'll chat them through with our panel guests. >> yes, indeed. now it's been the story that has dominated headunes the story that has dominated headlines from the olympic games in recent days. the boxing genden in recent days. the boxing gender. now algeria's imani khalife and taiwanese lin yu ting were both cleared to take part in the paris games, despite reportedly failing to pass a gender eligibility test at the world championships last year. >> i suppose i'll read your bit then. >> yeah, go for it. >> yeah, go for it. >> khalife sport against a common opponent, angela carine of italy was called off after just 46 seconds, so gone in under a minute with carine

saying that she ended the fight because she was scared for her life. >> shocking, truly chilling stuff. >> in a new development, a united nations adviser on violence against women and girls has said that olympic chiefs should reintroduce sex testing for female athletes . for female athletes. >> well, joining us now is a total legend of boxing. former professional boxer and world champion duke mckenzie. duke. thank you so much for joining us, what is your reaction to that fight, that very short lived fight in which an italian female boxer had to face somebody? that certainly has the physical characteristics of a biological male, of a man? >> it was quite it was quite scary to see, mark, i think to myself, you know, there should be more. >> there should be more tests done, if that's what they're going to allow in, in any sort of competition, the idea that, both boxers, i believe, were

disqualified from their tournament a while back. so. but it seems like they've got one rule for one and another rule for another. you see what i mean? so i mean, surely they could. maybe they should do, like an ultrasound test of some description to detect exactly what these two people are from a physical perspective. and then maybe they should have a separate category completely for people with high levels of male testosterone in their system , testosterone in their system, because surely from their standpoint, the lbgtq and, you know, any other organisation that's like that, or even people like these two young people, they could all fit into that category and have their own, have their own , have their own have their own, have their own category that they compete in against one another because they're clearly at an advantage fighting other females. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> tatiana, does that make

things a bit complicated though, though? >> duke you know , some might say >> duke you know, some might say another category because when doesit another category because when does it stop? and also how did you feel and what's your overall thoughts after after watching that bout the other day. >> well no it was, it was it was it was quite scary because when you take into to the equation both these both of these , both both these both of these, both of these people have got male testosterone, high levels of male testosterone in their systems. right. so it doesn't matter whether you're male or your female. the fact is they have got a physical advantage over the females and they're fighting other women. so they're going to hit harder. and boxing is the sport that you will you can lose your life. i've got i know three boxers on a personal level that have suffered horrific accidents in the boxing ring, michael watson being one of them. pauline will be another one and a very good friend of mine, spencer oliver, equally have all had life threatening accidents in the ring. you don't

play accidents in the ring. you don't play boxing. it's not a game, you know? i mean , if my wife you know? i mean, if my wife kisses me in the morning, every morning and she does says goodbye, darling, and goes out the door, and when i come back , the door, and when i come back, she kisses me again. i quite like that. mrs. mckenzie is a really nice person, leslie, by the way. and you know , let's the way. and you know, let's flip the script. if i meet another leslie who's got hands like a builder and a back like a hod carrier, and wears a dress and identifies as a woman, that's not going to have the same effect, is it? do you see what i mean? yeah. so the. yeah, but the point i'm making is, you know, outwardly they might look like feminine women, but internally they're not. so like i say, maybe if they if they took an ultrasound test to determine exactly who or what they are and then had a separate category for people with that , category for people with that, nobody's blaming them . indeed, nobody's blaming them. indeed, thatis nobody's blaming them. indeed, that is how they were born . that is how they were born. indeed, you have to question whether that's the truth or not. and it doesn't appear to me like there's been enough tests done to find out to determine exactly

who or what they are. >> well, indeed. i mean , there's >> well, indeed. i mean, there's a great debate, and it's quite complex as to what this person's genderis complex as to what this person's gender is because of their genetic makeup. it could be that they've got a very unusual makeup. right. but what we what we what we know for sure, duke, is that this is not a biological woman. so not only is it unsafe for the female opponent to fight someone that presents as a biological male, you know that as well as i do that that is dangerous. but also .uk. oh, you can't hear, okay, listen, i'll tell you what we're going to do, duke, while we fix that, a little bit of an issue with the line. let's hear from a spokesperson from the ioc. >> dos rohan is not a perfect test. many women can have testosterone, which is in what would be called male levels. and still be women. and still compete as women. so this panacea, this idea that suddenly you test, do one test for testosterone and that's also everything out. not the case, i'm afraid .

i'm afraid. >> okay, well, listen, let's get the thoughts of our panel before we go back to duke. we just are having a little bit of a look there at, the technology side of it, esther , there's an issue it, esther, there's an issue here. not just of safety, but of fairness. >> absolutely. now, i thought that that boxer was born a woman and has always been a woman and wasn't born a man. so, i mean, as you said, it's kind of an unusual biological makeup. it's not somebody's fault if they are unusually strong and have levels of testosterone. unless maybe was it was the testosterone fake? tessa jowell. >> that's not the case with this visuals that this individual has failed to gender tests. they may have. they may have female on their sort of birth certificate , their sort of birth certificate, but they are presenting as a biological male. so you've got the high testosterone. but it's not only that x y chromosomes, which according to any scientist, is a biological male. >> on the other hand, the iba, the international boxing authority, has criticised the ioc for their inconsistencies in

eligibility. so you can see, perhaps it could be argued that the ioc could improve their testing and there's kind of the standards and boundaries, but surely there's a weight and strength issue here. >> surely you you you go, you >> s 90, urely you yo u you go , you >> surely you you you go, you go, you combat somebody who's got a similar weight and strength to you. you don't put some massive great boxer with a tiny little lightweight with, you know, well, that's that's a good point. >> i mean, as you say, within male boxing for example, the weight is very important. >> you would not allow a heavyweight to fight a middleweight or a flyweight. that would be dangerous. yes. and by the way, i'm double flyweight, so you know. but look, a couple of seconds, your thoughts on this. >> yeah. no i agree i think you know, the organisation needs to make sure that this doesn't happen again. i think the criticism is though, everyone talks about having another category, like maybe a trans or some kind of middle category. but the problem with that is there's not enough athletes to be put into that category wouldn't be a competitive sport. >> okay. fair enough . well, >> okay. fair enough. well, still to come, we'll be meeting this week's greatest britain.

the 13 year old, who cycled 96 miles in 25 hours for charity. >> but next we're going to stateside for the latest from the presidential campaign trail. this is saturday morning live on gb news, britain's news channel

>> welcome back mark and tatiana with you until midday and at a convention this week for black journalists, the former president donald trump questioned kamala harris's racial identity. >> he claimed she had focused on her asian american heritage until recently, when she , quote, until recently, when she, quote, became a black person . became a black person. >> i don't think i've ever been asked a question. so in such a horrible manner, a first question you don't even say, hello, how are you? >> do you believe that vice president kamala harris is only on the ticket because she is a

black woman? >> well, i didn't know she was black until a number of years ago when she happened to turn black. and now she wants to be known as black. so i don't know, is she indian or is she black? >> she is always identified as a black woman. >> i respect either one college. i respect either one. but she obviously doesn't . obviously doesn't. >> so will this damage donald trump's chances of becoming president? >> well, we're delighted to be joined now by journalist and author nelson aspen nelson . author nelson aspen nelson. thank you for joining. joining us this morning on saturday morning live. what are your thoughts on the latest trump kamala saga comments ? kamala saga comments? >> thanks for having me, guys. it's good to be with you and former president trump continues to prove himself the ultimate reality star with this kind of, presentation. and while it's created a lot of internal division within the national association of black journalists, that was the group that was hosting the appearance, and now it's resulted in chaotic internal division within that

group. but he was playing to his base. this was sort of vintage donald trump . and he he plays he donald trump. and he he plays he plays directly to his base. i don't think he's won over any new voters. but the folks that are committed to donald trump, you know, they they take that like raw meat being thrown down into the gladiator pit guys. >> indeed . although nelson has >> indeed. although nelson has kamala harris sent mixed messages about her heritage over the years, she waffles on a lot of different issues. >> what surprised me was that donald trump restrained himself as much as he did, because we all remember from the last time he was dealing with a presidential campaign, and he called one of his rivals pocahontas. i mean, it became quite a controversy then. so he he still continues while playing to his base, as i mentioned , to his base, as i mentioned, he's still showing, in this campaign , more of a statesman campaign, more of a statesman like side to himself, a little

bit more restraint than we're used to seeing . used to seeing. >> do you think perhaps, his choice of comments and his choice of comments and his choice of comments and his choice of words has anything to do with maybe his popularity among blacks and latinos? i'm latina, and i won't say, you know, my views on it specifically, but i do speak to a lot of latinos and, you know, and my community and the latin community. do you think it has anything to do with that? and him trying to level that playing field because because that's right. >> it's an interesting question from tatiana. his popularity among african americans and latinos is growing, isn't it? nelson >> that's right. and this race now is really neck and neck. i mean, it can be within a within a polling point or two apart. and what's going to happen in the news broke overnight that trump has proposed a debate with kamala harris on september fourth. originally, he was going to debate biden on september 10th. but when biden was out and kamala was in, he said, hang on, i'm not going to do that until she's officially the delegate.

and while kamala now has enough, delegate votes to become the official nominee, she hasn't gotten it legally. so soon. soon they will anoint her fully to be they will anoint her fully to be the nominee. but. so we are waiting for her to agree to trump's proposal of a september 4th debate. and then. and then we'll see if they'll continue to be neck and neck. >> indeed, briefly , nelson, it's >> indeed, briefly, nelson, it's my view that harris has been a disastrous vice president, signing off a lot of bad policies on the part of joe biden, particularly economic policies that have led to inflation and open border in the south, which has seen over 10 million illegal immigrants enter america since 2020. plus, the wokery in us public life. so i don't think she's been a great vice president. but the media in america are characterising her as the second coming. >> she is riding a huge wave of popularity at the moment, and i think in large part it's due to the fact that she's younger and

we've been so desperate for a new generation of leadership, and we will see if they can continue to keep up her momentum as she is moments away from announcing her choice for a vice presidential running mate and that that's going to also, as you say, you want to use the term woke. i think that will play term woke. i think that will play into that factor as well. >> nelson, what a treat to have you on the show. we'll catch up soon. thanks. well imagine having £30,000 extra in your bank to play with this year. it could be yours in our latest great british giveaway as we are giving away our biggest cash prize. so far this summer. so do you want to be our next big winner? here's how you could do it . it. >> don't miss out on your chance to win a whopping £30,000 in tax free cash to spend. however, you like. it's extra cash that could really make a difference to your coming year. you could find yourself on that holiday you've

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with the along the west highland way. i'm getting stumbly now in just 25 hours for this is saturday morning on gb news, britain's news channel

>> welcome back. lovely to have your company. it's that part of the show where we celebrate amazing people who do amazing things. in this week's greatest britain. and we've got an incredible story this week of a young teenager who has raised more than £5,000 for charity. >> 13 year old just 13 years old, cameron hutchinson cycled the west highland way with his dad colin in just 25 hours, raising for money international food charity mary's meals , and food charity mary's meals, and the 96 mile route took cameron and colin to the foot of ben nevis. >> wow. now the organisation provides daily school meals to more than 2.4 million children in countries such as syria, haiti and malawi .

haiti and malawi. >> we are delighted to be joined now by cyclist and fundraiser cameron hutchinson . cameron, cameron hutchinson. cameron, it's so lovely to have you here. how are you today? >> i'm very good. thank you . how >> i'm very good. thank you. how are you? >> yeah. very well. >> yeah. very well. >> well, we're very impressed to have you. we are honoured to have you. we are honoured to have you, first of all, do you like cycling ? like cycling? >> yeah, yeah, it's one of my favourite sports, so. yeah, i just wanted to do that. >> what kind of bike did you do that enormous distance in. did you have a special bike ? was it adapted? >> well, it was, my cross country bike that i just normally use for cross country races. so, yeah. wow. you can actually see it on the screen there with the blue handlebars . there with the blue handlebars. that's the bike i was using. >> we can. and quite , quite a >> we can. and quite, quite a route you went on as well. so cameron , you've been you've been cameron, you've been you've been 13 years old. when did you start cycling? i've sort of been

cycling? i've sort of been cycling my whole life, >> so i got a little red balanced bike when i was maybe 3 or 2, maybe . and then i kind of or 2, maybe. and then i kind of just got bigger bikes as i went on. >> and, how about some of the memories of that trip? i mean, clearly you must have been exhausted at times, but what are the moments that stand out for you? >> moments that stood out for me . >> moments that stood out for me. probably going along loch lomond , probably going along loch lomond, when, it was the terrain is unrideable, and you're carrying your bike a lot, so you're actually slower, so you can take in the scenery a bit more. and, some of the, some of the scenery, when it was getting a bit, it was evening. and, yeah, the, the loch just looked unreal. and also another memory

was probably pitch black, probably about one in the morning. just above crianlarich in a forest. i kept on getting these thoughts because i was so tired and everything . i would tired and everything. i would look at a tree with my torch and my shadow would flash up and i get , a wee fright. so my shadow would flash up and i get, a wee fright. so yeah. so in the dark and not in the dark, ihave in the dark and not in the dark, i have many memories. >> and did you do without sleep ? >> and did you do without sleep? i mean, it was a 24 hour ride. so how did you do breaks and rest and that kind of stuff ? rest and that kind of stuff? >> i know i didn't sleep, ijust had to eat a lot of haribos and, so i know, i don't know how i didn't, didn't fall asleep, but goodness me, cameron, it takes some adults 4 or 5 days to cycle

this route, and you've done it in, in less than that. >> what was your training like? did you train for this? you must have done. >> yeah, it was i. i actually got the idea of a boy who cycled from his house in somewhere down south to the netherlands, and for children in need , and i for children in need, and i thought i would love to do something similar. so i kind of had it in my head since christmas, and i've just been doing a lot of, stuff on the spin bike and, going out for long rides. >> cameron, do you think you could go professional with this cycling? because it's a huge achievement. what you've done. would you like to be the next mark cavendish , mark cavendish, >> i mean, that's that's probably every little boy's dream to go professional with one of their favourite sports .

one of their favourite sports. but, i mean , i'll, i'll do i'll but, i mean, i'll, i'll do i'll take it. i'll take it as it goes. and if i do go professional, i love it. but if i don't, i'll just keep keep loving the sport and you've been doing this for, for an incredible charity. >> your parents must be extremely proud of you . extremely proud of you. >> hey. yeah. they are. thank you . you. >> yeah. did you beat your dad, by the way? were you quicker than him? quicker than colin? >> no, we had to keep together. >> no, we had to keep together. >> yeah, i'm glad to hear that. that's very sensible. by the way, any blisters or flat tires ? way, any blisters or flat tires? >> actually, we were very lucky we didn't have any, we didn't have any mechanicals, but we did have any mechanicals, but we did have some crashes. but there are more comical than injuries. >> brilliant stuff. and what about mary's meals? the charity. why did you choose them? obviously a very worthy cause. tell us a bit about mary's meals . tell us a bit about mary's meals. >> well, they are , charity that

>> well, they are, charity that operate in, i think , 26 operate in, i think, 26 countries, and they, they, they give a school meal to children who don't have any food or money, so that when they have that school meal, they'll have food in a class, they'll have a full tummy to go learn and hopefully get a better life in that sense. and that's fantastic. yeah and i chose mary meals because, poverty has always been something that really bugs me and really gets to me , and, mary's meals. i to me, and, mary's meals. i i thought of them because it's ,

thought of them because it's, it's hard to think that a kid won't learn because they're hungry. yeah. so that's that's why i chose mary's meals. well cameron, you might be the next mark cavendish. >> you might also be a future prime minister because you're talking a lot of sense about the state of the world. >> certainly a hero in our eyes. >> certainly a hero in our eyes. >> yeah, definitely, more power to you, cameron. well done to you and dad. colin as well . you and dad. colin as well. well, a brilliant cause and a massive achievement. i hope our paths cross again. there you go . paths cross again. there you go. cyclist and fundraiser. just 13 years of age, cameron hutchinson. and by the way, how well did he speak? >> amazing. well, such an articulate young man. wasn't very articulate. nothing like me when i was 13 years old. >> there you go. >> there you go. >> well, listen, you're getting a few good reviews as well. look at this, love. tatiana stepping up to the plate. she's another young talent that gb news showcases. tell me about it . showcases. tell me about it. isn't she a star? brilliant, son. well, we've got another hour to go. keep those messages coming in. see you shortly .

coming in. see you shortly. >> looks like things are heating up. boxt boilers sponsors of weather on . gb. news weather on. gb. news >> hello there. welcome to your gb news. weather for saturday afternoon. it's generally brightening up over the course of the afternoon. some sunny spells, but the risk of showers too. and as we move through the second half of the weekend into the beginning of next week, a deep area of low pressure will bnng deep area of low pressure will bring outbreaks of heavy rain. strong winds to the northwest of the uk. but for the rest of saturday, largely dry across england and wales. there'll be some sunny spells . this weather some sunny spells. this weather front could give some patchy rain across eastern and south eastern parts of england through the afternoon, but most places dry showers across northern ireland and scotland cooler than recent days. generally, the high teens to low 20s. highs around 24 celsius towards south—east england through the evening time. further showers across

parts of scotland and northern ireland. so we start here. we can see the showers quite frequent across central and northern parts. some of them on the heavy side, at times a little breezy around the coast . little breezy around the coast. temperatures around 18 celsius dunng temperatures around 18 celsius during the evening time. further showers as well for northern ireland, but generally further south into england and wales. it's a dry end to the day. plenty of sunny spells, just 1 or 2 showers again towards far southeastern areas, but otherwise generally dry , and otherwise generally dry, and then overnight we tend to stay dry across much of england and wales. there'll be some clear spells, but some medium high level cloud filtering in as the night progresses. this thick enough though, by the early hours to give outbreaks of rain across parts of northern ireland and southwest scotland, temperatures generally staying in double figures but lower double figures compared to recent nights, so a little bit more comfortable for sleeping and sunday hazy sunny spells across parts of england and wales, the cloud tending to thicken through the day, but it

should largely stay dry here. further outbreaks of rain, though for northern ireland up into western parts of scotland, particularly the highlands, seeing some outbreaks of heavy rain and temperatures once again high teens to low 20s. highs around 23 in the south—east >> that warm feeling inside from

>> well . >> well. >> well. >> while a very good morning, i am mark dolan alongside tatiana sanchez in for ellie and ben and this is saturday morning live . this is saturday morning live. >> yes it is. it's great to have your company this morning and we've got an action packed show. we've got all of the day's top stories with ceo and founder of youth vote uk, alex cairns, and broadcaster esther stanhope. >> yes, indeed. we'll get all the latest showbiz news and discuss the french dj barbara bush, who has filed legal complaints after the paris olympics opening ceremony. of course, that was the really

offensive last supper scene, an inqu offensive last supper scene, an insult to christians around the world. i got to say it. and what you think, phil? it's been great for team gb but the worst olympics ever that conjured up a stir for sure. >> team gb are doing well, but of course that opening ceremony looming over everybody. >> what a shambles. but not this show. this is going to be a well—oiled machine. >> no, this is never a shambles. >> no, this is never a shambles. >> we've actually put you on a step just to get the height right. >> i know if only you could see. i could never be this tall. sticking with the olympics, they will be chatting to former world record holder and two time olympic medallist fatima whitbread , will find out all whitbread, will find out all about her incredible career and get her expert predictions on this year's games. >> yes, indeed. and don't forget, we want to hear from you gbnews.com/yoursay >> but before anything else, ray addison has the .

news. >> okay, we're having a little bit of a technical issue at the moment, but let me tell you that there are so many big stories that we're going to talk about in today's show, and we talked about the tory leadership earlier, trump in america. but really, tatiana, the only story in town at the moment is concerns about the trouble that we've seen across various cities in this country in the last few days.in in this country in the last few days. in the aftermath of that tragedy on monday, with the murder of three young children. and, you know, it seems to be that the prime minister is facing his biggest political test. >> yes. and there are lots of people who have got their reservations about what the prime minister is doing about this. yeah. and what the police are doing about this. i mean , are doing about this. i mean, there are, of course, two sides of the story. it isn't necessarily the police force in sunderland or leeds or wherever it may be. yeah. you know, they're not, they're not at fault. for what? for what's happened. but i think there is a simmering underlying frustration among the people, don't you think? >> definitely. the bottom line

is the cops have got a job to do. and any violence against them is completely unacceptable. a riot is not a protest. okay, well, look, another night of serious violence on the streets as protesters attack a police office, setting a car on fire and surrounding a mosque in sunderland . sunderland. >> yes. police have described the incident as criminal thuggery, with eight people being arrested and three police officers hospitalised. >> well, that is as the prime minister warned protesters that they would face the full force of the law in a bid to crack down on the violence. >> well, later today there's going to be a vigil in liverpool to remember the southport victims . and joining us live now victims. and joining us live now from liverpool is gb news reporter anna riley. anna, thank you for joining reporter anna riley. anna, thank you forjoining us. what is the you for joining us. what is the latest ? latest? >> yes. well as you've said the latest in this violent disorder that broke out was last night in sunderland with that police station being set fire to, but also here in liverpool yesterday

there was a disturbance outside a mosque and the people causing the disturbance were met by an anti—protest group who were chanting refugees are welcome here. and that's something that we can expect this weekend. we know that there's around 30 protests across the weekend across the country, but as well as these protesters that the government have branded far right. but as you said earlier, tatiana, other people are saying they're protesting because they feel that the social fabric of the uk has been ripped apart with the disorder that we have seen, but there's going to be a counter protest as well as these protesters coming along. so potential clashes from two different protest groups as well. the police are putting in stringent measures across the weekend to keep the public safe to try and prevent the disorder. the rioting that we saw all last

week in hartlepool, most recently in manchester as well, and this all fits into what keir starmer put together . last week, starmer put together. last week, he gave a press conference to the nation in which he announced his national violent disorder program . he said that police program. he said that police were going to be brought together , sharing intelligence together, sharing intelligence across the forces. he said that police were going to put in criminal behaviour orders and be more active with that. so people who are known and being branded as thugs, who are known to be going out and causing trouble at these protests, can be contained and stopped moving geographically into areas where protests are planned, and also the extra use of surveillance as well, and a wider rollout of facial recognition technology. but one problem the police may face this weekend is that many of these protests are not necessarily being centrally

coordinated. a lot of them have been advertised online, and it's unknown how many people will attend each protest. so that does pose a problem for police, but they said they are being really strong in their action this weekend, very coordinated and that they are saying don't come along to these protests , come along to these protests, don't cause trouble and that those that do will face the full force of the law and briefly, anna, a vigil later today in liverpool, where you are . yes. liverpool, where you are. yes. that's it. i mean, i think we have to remember the victims in all of this , those three little all of this, those three little girls who tragically had their lives taken away from them at such a young age in that horrific massacre stabbing that we saw at a taylor swift dance group in southport. they need to be at the heart of this. so yes, people from the community coming together , remembering those together, remembering those little girls and still

outpourings of support in southport as well . many tributes southport as well. many tributes being made, people travelling from all across the country to lay flowers to leave , balloons, lay flowers to leave, balloons, teddies and cards. >> brilliant stuff. thank you anna, we'll look , we'll get more anna, we'll look, we'll get more on this story and the big stories of the day with our lovely guests this morning we've got the ceo and founder of youth vote uk, alex cairns and broadcaster esther stanhope. before we get to some of the big stories , alex, the prime stories, alex, the prime minister, had decided had this decision to light up downing street in a kind of pink lighting last night, which is obviously a nice gesture. there's a vigil in liverpool today, but i think we need to do more than just, you know, signal our concern about what happened on monday and actually tackle major issues facing this country. i think it's going to take more than a sort of special light show or candles to really address what happened. >> yeah, i agree, i think what's happening in the moment, i completely appreciate that .

completely appreciate that. there's lots of people in the country that are really frustrated. the public services are on their knees. i understand that there's concern about legal migration, but the people that are protesting, these are not the sort of people that you see actually at calm protests that are genuinely concerned. these are genuinely concerned. these are thugs. these are people that are thugs. these are people that a lot of them have ridiculous views. these are people that basically, you know, we're talking about it off air. they don't have anything to do. the youth clubs are being cut. you know, they don't have sports clubs to go to. and actually a lot of young, young people, which i'm really ashamed about, are going onto the streets and basically causing havoc. they don't care really about what happened to those three girls. so actually it's a it's an awful situation and the police have to arrest. we can't have a situation where people basically decide, you know what, they're going to go out on friday night and cause an issue because they care about illegal migration? no, the vast majority are just thugs that have nothing to do and want to cause havoc. >> do you think in some way, within this day and age with younger people, perhaps it's more of a social media event? >> yeah, i think social media is that makes it easier for people to communicate, to say we're going to go and set to fire this

car or whatever. then you can communicate very quickly . i communicate very quickly. i don't think people should be blaming and getting angry , and i blaming and getting angry, and i think the focus is all wrong. i think the focus is all wrong. i think talking about the police and yes, of course the police need to have cameras and we need to stop this kind of violence. however, i do think it all starts when with with young kids. i think that the fact that we haven't got enough youth clubs, we haven't got enough sport going on for young kids. there's a story in the paper today about the south london new. there's a state of the art youth club, and they do sports and they, they play games and they're learning how to communicate with each other. that's what we need to be doing , that's what we need to be doing, is getting them when they're young, giving young people something to do . something to do. >> not that this wasn't a youth club that was out protesting last night in sunderland and in southport earlier in the week. >> but what are they doing? >> but what are they doing? >> these are grown men. it's not the lack of snooker tables and ping the lack of snooker tables and ping pong. you know, there are obviously these horrible thugs, these agitators, far right, reprehensible, disgusting people. but there are millions of people in this country and

plenty of people watching this show and listening to it who are genuinely concerned about illegal immigration. they're angry that thousands of people enter the country illegally. i think they should be angry. they're angry about legal net migration, 700,000 in a year. that's the city. the size of leeds in a year. no surprise that youngsters can't get on the housing ladder, get a gp appointment or a school place . appointment or a school place. so, you know, the thuggery is disgusting. it's wrong. it's reprehensible. the police should not be attacked. a riot is not a protest. but aren't we glossing over an underlying issue in this country, which is a society that isn't working anymore? >> i think we there's so many things that are broken in this country. but what i would like is solutions rather than just let's, let's all rant and rave about it. let's talk about what the solution would be for a lot of people, including, for example, leslie, who's emailed in saying it's not just that people feel their country is slipping away, but that it's being given away and stolen from them against their will. i think people should take responsibility for themselves

and decide how what they want to do with their lives. i think this is all about choice. >> we have a choice. >> we have a choice. >> their country, isn't it? they're worried about their country. they don't want a million people entering the country every year. >> do they want people rioting on the streets, though? i mean, come on, that's not the answer. is it? >> but i think it's interesting because a lot of people gloss over the fact that when we talk about the migration figures, a lot of students are in there, right? you know, you take them out. it's not as many as you think. one, two. the economy relies on migration. you know, a lot of the people need to realise if you just decide from day dot, you're not going to have any migration. you know, who's going to feel the nhs vacancies that we need. you know, there's lots of, you know , know, there's lots of, you know, agricultural work, you know, a lot of retail, a lot of hospitality. so the country i get really annoyed about the situation because a lot of people are frustrated about the situation, but then they don't understand the economy relies on migration. you know, migrants make a big impact to the united kingdom and always have done . kingdom and always have done. >> i agree with you and the economy needs it. but society has its needs too. so kemi badenoch in the in the telegraph today, she's a tory. leadership hopeful says we can't pretend

that integration is working fine. does she have a point , yes. >> i don't think she has a point. i actually think that the vast majority of the country are integrated. fine. you know, lots of communities have , you know, of communities have, you know, look at what's happened after these protests. you're seeing, you know, cross ethnicity people from sunderland , southport came from sunderland, southport came together in the morning to basically clean up the city after these thugs decided to ruin it. you know, if you poll the majority of people, their neighbours, people in the community, everyone, you know, cross ethnicity, they work fine. we're a very integrated country. it doesn't help having rhetoric where you know, people are trying to stoke culture wars because it advances their political gain. the majority of the country work well together. lots of people in the workplace have have different ethnicities that work fine with them. and it's benefited our country. and i think it's an absolute disgrace that people like kemi and nigel farage and tommy robinson are talking about the fact that, you know, we want our country back. i don't know what the hell that means. you know, these people have come to this country to benefit. look at the

windrush scandal. these people benefited our country for a long time. it's insulting to say we want our country back and they're not integrated. >> i think they need to be talking. >> we need to get people talking. i'm a communication expert. we need to be listening. we need to be talking. we need to be getting some of the thugs to be getting some of the thugs to go and visit some of the people that are running the mosques and actually have a conversation. like, i don't think, like just getting the police out there and going, no, you know, the law is going to solve it. i think they need to talk . talk. >> i think for me it's a tricky one because i've got, you know, an immigrant father and mother. i'm colombian italian and so and i'm colombian italian and so and i'm an irishman. well, there you go. >> my mum was born in egypt. >> my mum was born in egypt. >> there you go. multicultural, multicultural . but it's, you multicultural. but it's, you know, there's a very big difference between coming here to the uk and working hard and contributing to society or living just a peaceful life. and that's very different to what we're seeing on the streets at the moment. but we do have to move on, don't we? most definitely. >> right. dentist tatiana, tell me more. not enough. are they ? me more. not enough. are they? this is this is a big old headache because we talk a lot

about gp appointments, don't we? but certainly almost everyone i know struggles to see a dentist when they need one. >> yes. yeah. >> yes. yeah. >> you know, the best time to go to a dentist. >> two 3230 that's actually quite good. >> it's better than mike jackson, the guy that went into goa to india to get his dental treatment. >> is that what you're talking about? yeah. >> so tell us about that. this is how desperate people are to get treatment out. so what's the story? >> okay, the story is a guy couldn't get an appointment at the nhs, so he went all the way to goa in india to get his dental appointment. now, i think he probably just wanted to go on houday he probably just wanted to go on holiday and he thought, i know, why don't i go on holiday to goa and then get my teeth done? look, i people are travelling in their droves. there's whole aeroplanes full of people with medical, medical tourists like in turkey. you get a bunch of a whole aeroplane with people with hair implants, things like that. >> so yeah, yeah, i was , i was >> so yeah, yeah, i was, i was going to go to turkey teeth isn't it. turkey teeth. >> turkey teeth. >> turkey teeth. >> well now that's when they strip the tooth down. >> and you have these little pegs. >> yes. they strip them down in many cases. they strip them down far too low. so the nerve is

exposed and it gets infected and it's. yes it's exposed to the elements. so you get infection in the tooth and then you have to essentially take them all off. but by then the infection spread. so far i was getting my nails done. the other day, which i don't do very often, and my nail technician, said to me, is your dad still a dentist? and i said, yes. and she said, please, can i have emergency appointment? i went to turkey and i got my teeth done and now they look incredible. but i'm in so much pain. all infected. she had 15 taken out from the top and 12 from the bottom . and it's and 12 from the bottom. and it's and 12 from the bottom. and it's an absolute disaster. but this is what people are having a feeling like they have to do. >> so medical tourism doesn't always work. >> no, but it shows alex that people can't get their teeth sorted here, so they go elsewhere. >> yeah . look, the reality is >> yeah. look, the reality is and you know, again , i don't and you know, again, i don't want to sound like a broken record, but there's a lot of dentists that have moved out of the uk post—brexit. you know, a lot of, you know, we talk about the migration, you know, a lot of dentists have come to this country because we recruited them. so no shock. you know,

lots of them have left. so from a capacity perspective, if people are living longer and therefore we need more people that potentially need to work in that potentially need to work in that sector, that need to basically serve as dentists and then people leaving the country again, people complain, oh my gosh, there's too many migrants. but the reality is we need people in the i don't think people in the i don't think people object to high skilled migration, is what i'd say on that one. >> listen, do you floss, by the way, i don't floss. >> give us a smile. let me see those teeth. >> no, don't look at my teeth. >> no, don't look at my teeth. >> honestly. he's young. he's not. i should, i should. apparently, it prevents heart disease and dementia and everything. >> when you get reach, when you when you. when you reach a certain age, you have to floss. you have to do. the minute the tip brushes you do the whole you've done, you've done. >> i mean, no one my age. >>— >> i mean, no one my age. >> flosses let me tell you, he's a millennial. >> you've got hollywood smile. you look like you've been to turkey for about a year. can you tell us, alex? can you tell us about tom cruise's diet? >> tom cruise's diet? i mean , he >> tom cruise's diet? i mean, he so there was the story today in the daily mail talking about the fact that obviously, you know,

the guy has a very, very strict diet. he pretty much has no alcohol in his diet, has very strict times. he eats, he only eats meat and fish happy. and actually, can i just say, i think this is very depressing. you know, life is short. i don't know why people have. and lots of my friends who go to the gym, they're absolutely obsessed with only having chicken and rice and barely any sauce on it. it's just, what's the point? >> you know, you make a good point . life >> you know, you make a good point. life is short. what do the. >> and so is tom cruise . >> and so is tom cruise. >>— >> and so is tom cruise. >> yolo. >> yolo. >> you only live once. yeah, yolo. but then you can live your life as you want to live it. >> so if you want to live it, the healthiest person ever in the healthiest person ever in the whole world, then you know that's your one life. >> but you raise a great point in the meeting today, which is 64 old anymore? it's not sort of 62. it's not old, is it? >> no, 62 is the new 40. >>— >> no, 62 is the new 40. >> yeah . i mean, the thing is, >> yeah. i mean, the thing is, what if you don't? >> tom cruise is a multi—millionaire. doesn't he want to just, like, relax and enjoy his life now, why is he still getting up at half five in the morning to go to the gym and eating chicken breasts with no sauce on it? >> okay, tom cruise is another

one of these driven people. >> tom cruise is absolutely, 100% driven to drive a fighter pilot aeroplane. i mean, how could you actually learn to drive a plane ? he is so driven. drive a plane? he is so driven. he is so disciplined. and when you're that disciplined, you know, about blood alcohol. you know, about blood alcohol. you know, sugar spikes. i bet you he dnnks know, sugar spikes. i bet you he drinks vinegar. i bet you any money he's into gut health. i'm telling you, gut health is in. everyone's talking about gut health. but what's the point when you're 62? >> no, i'm hoping when i'm 62 that i'll just chill out. he doesn't. no way. he doesn't need the money. he can just chill like, no, he doesn't want to chill. >> he so doesn't want to chill. i'll tell you what. in hollywood, because my husband's a film producer in hollywood. you know, when they retire, they're either 90 or they're dead. >> yeah. tom cruise is going to carry on when you're 62. >> do you want to do you want to go for the dad bod? what's what are your thoughts? >> no, i don't know. >> no, i don't know. >> no, i don't know. >> no i don't want to go for the dad bod. you know, i actually tease my own dad about this, that, you know, you need to make sure that you're in some sort of shape. however, listen, the serious point to this is there's lots of people that get really stressed by the fact that they

don't have a six pack. they don't have a six pack. they don't have a six pack. they don't have this sort of like diet that seemed to be cool. and as you say, you only live once , as you say, you only live once, this guy, a lot of people look up to him. >> they're going to be like, right, i need to follow this. i need to get up at 5:00 in the morning, have barely any sleep. that's another thing. everyone thinks it's cool to not have sleep. it's not. you need to have eight hours. >> i admire him, but he's going to have the best nutrition. isn't he in the world as well? >> that's all he's got? >> that's all he's got? >> yeah, he can afford it, right? >> when someone is cooking your meals. that's not bad, is it? well thank you so much, alex and esther. i'm very excited about this idea of health tourism because i'm off for a big chunk of august. i might go to turkey, get the teeth done, and maybe a maybe a bum lift. they'll have to find it first. still to come, we'll be joined by former world record holder and two time olympic medallist, the one and only fatima whitbread. oh indeed . sorry. >> up next we'll go live to the site of the largest scout and guide gathering in europe. this is saturday morning, live on gb news britain's news channel

>> okay, welcome back to saturday morning live. a very busy few minutes to go. tatiana how are you enjoying the presenter hot seat. >> i am, and it's so nice to be here with you because we go way back, don't we? we do, we do. >> tatiana used to produce my show and now look, she's on the box. it's the opposite of how the mighty have fallen. you've gone and sprung up. >> it was the best time of my life. >> oh, well, it's a god bless you for that. you're making me emotional. now listen. so many, so many stories to get through, with regards to all the stuff that's going on, look, a lot of concerns about tensions within our society . i concerns about tensions within our society. i think concerns about tensions within our society . i think esther, concerns about tensions within our society. i think esther, our brilliant pundit today, is right to say that we need to talk about these things. we shouldn't call names. we shouldn't demonise people. if there are problems in our society, which there are, then they should be addressed . and that's a big addressed. and that's a big challenge for the prime minister. i mean, by the way, you know what a rude awakening

for him, tatiana, that his new prime minister, he's been in for, what, between 3 and 4 weeks, 3 or 4 weeks, not even a month yet . and he's got riots on month yet. and he's got riots on the streets. so, you know , he's the streets. so, you know, he's certainly been cancelling his houday certainly been cancelling his holiday plans, won't he, for august? >> i mean, it's a big question for society and for the public. how do you address the public's frustrations? that is the question. >> yeah, definitely. and i think openness is important, how about this? there will be a civil war in england. the question is when not if, says bruce fox. we've seen issues like that in the united states. coming up, by the way, we're going to be talking about fatima whitbread, who's an amazing olympic hero, who grew up in care. and it's amazing how many people that have grown up in care went on to have amazing careers. it's like not the most ideal start in life, but normally at the end of it you have quite an achievement. >> i hope she's not watching this. i want to ask her about when she was in school. she was apparently very naughty, but she always got picked for the sports

team. >> oh, is that it? >> oh, is that it? >> so they must have thought to themselves, oh, fatima, we shouldn't really be allowing to. her but, you know, she's the best, so we want her in our team. >> well, i was i was naughty at school. is it any surprise ? now school. is it any surprise? now listen, folks, lots more to get through. and other feel good story for you on a saturday morning after what has been a tncky morning after what has been a tricky week of news. >> yes, the essex international jamboree has welcomed 8000 guides and scouts from around the world for a week of activities, including abseiling and zorbing. >> well, i don't know what zorbing is so the big balls i thought i did that on my wedding night, but, it's a distant memory now at the end of the week, participants are travelling home to places such as australia, kenya and ukraine, and we're joined now by karen and we're joined now by karen and paul jamboree chiefs . good and paul jamboree chiefs. good to see you looking lovely there on the beach, tell us more about what you're up to. >> oh, well, you know, you get participants are packing up their tents after a week of fun

in a field and their parents are coming to collect them. >> there's lots of happy, smiling faces, and they've had an awful lot of fun . we've kept an awful lot of fun. we've kept them busy all week. >> they're very tired. i suspect there'll be lots of baths, run this afternoon, >> clearing up, you this afternoon, >> clearing up , you know, the >> clearing up, you know, the jamboree suntan that they've gained their incredible over 1000 volunteers. >> and you've been planning this for over or almost four years? >> yes. yeah. we unfortunately had to cancel due to covid, and. but we're back. we've managed to create this village in a field. >> green field. it's literally a farmer's field . and we've farmer's field. and we've created a fully functioning village with toilets, showers, it shops , everything that you it shops, everything that you need for these young people to have a fantastic week. >> and it's great for them. they're learning skills , they're they're learning skills, they're making friends, they're out in the fresh air and of course, off of their devices. they're not staring at the phone or the ipad

or gaming on the computer. >> yeah, no, not at all. and it's been quite incredible, really, to have that many people, young people age 10 to 17, in a field we've seen very , 17, in a field we've seen very, very few mobile phones other than those that they're using to take photos with. so they've really enjoyed interacting with each other, learning new skills, talking to each other, to talking to each other, to talking people from over 40 different countries and making new friends. it's been amazing. >> yeah, my sons did the guides. they had a great, great time. it and scouts. it's important i say the scouts saw that one out, it's important for the, more young people to get involved in this kind of activity, don't you think ? think? >> it's an amazing opportunity for young people to challenge themselves, try new things, and they're learning by stealth. they're learning independence. you know, they're trying these new opportunities that one day might just spark an interest in something for their career later on in life. but most

importantly, they're learning to live together and just have a great time in a positive environment with their peers as well, outside of the school environment. >> so they're doing things that they want to do because it's a free choice . if they don't want free choice. if they don't want to do it, they don't have to do it. yeah, but so many of them are happy, smiling faces. it speaks volumes. >> also, paul, a little bit of discomfort, which is not bad for these teenagers to experience. >> hey, we've had a fantastic week. it's a little bit wet today, but it's been warm, very warm during the week. and, yeah, you know, you've got to put yourself out of your comfort zone. you know, it wouldn't be worth doing anything if it wasn't a little bit difficult. >> do you think , karen, that we >> do you think, karen, that we could do more to encourage more youngsters to join the guides and the scouts? >> oh, absolutely. yeah there's absolutely there's nothing not to like about guiding and scouting, and really we need the, the adult volunteers to step forward and help us because it's so much fun. the only reason that we've got over 1200

volunteers here who have given up their annual holiday to come and either have a busman's houday and either have a busman's holiday or do something completely different, is because it is so much fun. we have laughed so much and the young people just keep you going. it's brilliant. it's encourage anyone to come volunteer at the local guide or scout unit and we'd love to have you. and that would give opportunities to more people , people, >> definitely. well, i'd like to give both of you a medal because you've led an amazing event, and those kids are so lucky that you've done that for them. karen and paul, well done and roll on next year and i'm sure it will be bigger and better than ever. a thousand volunteers as well cannot urge you enough if you've got kids to encourage them to have a look at the guides and scouts. it's a really fulfilling thing and it doesn't break the bank either. >> i think that's great that young people get to get involved in something other than digital iphones and ipads and blah blah, blah, netflix and also gb news. >> i mean, the kids can't stop watching it, can they? >> no . now, karen and paul, >> no. now, karen and paul, thank you .

thank you. >> so we do have young viewers. i get stopped in the street, but anyway, let's move on, lots more to come on the show today, but i'm delighted to say he's got the bulletin now. the printer works. ray addison . works. ray addison. >> whoops, 11:29, our top stories this hour. >> the 17 year old accused of murdering three girls in southport once starred as doctor who in an advert for children's bbc children in need. the then 11 year old axel rudakubana can be seen leaving the tardis in 2018 and tells viewers how best to raise money. it's understood the teenager was found through a casting agency. a spokesman for bbc children in need said they had removed the video out of respect for those impacted by the shocking case. eight people were arrested and three police officers hospitalised last night following rioting in sunderland city centre. videos posted on

social media showed a fire at a former police office, while a mosque was also targeted . mosque was also targeted. vehicles were overturned and set on fire as rioters clashed with officers setting off fire extinguishers and throwing rocks and bottles . northumbria police and bottles. northumbria police say arrests were made for offences including violent disorder and burglary. the uk's most senior police commissioner is urging the government to explain how it will solve mass, uncontrolled immigration and, quote, uphold and build on british values following rioting and civil unrest. donna jones is calling for calm and honesty as the country faces more than 30 protests this weekend alone. she said the announcement of the prime minister's new violent crime units has led to an accusation of two tier policing and, quote, inflamed protesters . and, quote, inflamed protesters. two people have been charged in connection with an alleged arson attack on ukrainian linked businesses in london. 22 year old jakeem barrington rose of

croydon and 19 year old eunice azmina, of wandsworth, have both been charged with aggravated arson following a counter—terrorism investigation. rose was also charged with possession of an offensive weapon. the met police believe the offences were carried out on behalf of russia's wagner group. those are the latest gb news headlines. for now, i think i'm ray addison more in half an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone , sign direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com >> forward slash

welcome to saturday morning live and almost good afternoon. >> we are now going to be talking through the weekly dose of showbiz news. and i'm delighted. we are delighted to be joined by so much. alex, let me grab it for you stephanie.

it's so nice to share the studio with you. >> good solutions. you've got a show. thank you so much. >> you make it sound like we've got married or something. >> i know new tv couple will be relieved . relieved. >> no, we are desperate to see what's out. >> never. mark. >> never. mark. >> well , look, what's what's >> well, look, what's what's caught your eye. >> i mean, obviously the big the big media story has got to be huw edwards. >> it has been about huw edwards this week. obviously last year i was quite surprised when i did get that tip off about huw edwards been in this photo scandal with his with this teenage boy, but i'm not going to be talking about that. i'm going to be talking about the bbc's actions since. so they've decided to take down an episode of doctor who which featured huw edwards. he had a cameo appearance in it. he also was in appearance in it. he also was in a he was a judge in a show called the great british menu. they've also taken two episodes featuring on it, so obviously a lot of the press have been like, why have you taken these episodes down? they said they have the right to do it. with archive, they said they will be replacing those episodes, but it will be minus huw edwards and

they're being redubbed. but you know, if we if we're frank here, huw edwards was 40 years a part of the bbc so they can take these episodes down. but people still remember huw edwards being a big part of the bbc. >> well, definitely. i mean, it's such a scandal, really. the appalling crime of what was involved. but we won't go into. yeah but also the public are angry. our viewers and listeners are furious about his pay packet. half £1 million a year, 200 grand he got after he was suspended. yeah. and wait for it. a pension pot ? it. a pension pot? >> yes. £4 million. >> yes. £4 million. >> now. lisa nandy saying that he should give it all back. >> well, yeah, that's what the calls are for at the moment. whether he will i can imagine he has a lot of legal fees to pay at the moment, but the bbc have stood by their position that the same at the same time, they knew about the investigation, but that they had the police who said to them that they wanted them to keep it under wraps. so them to keep it under wraps. so the charges hadn't been brought against huw edwards at the time. when they were made aware of it. >> there's another problem for

huw edwards or actually not him for the bbc, which is that all of their archive of things like royal weddings. yeah, coronation he's a big part of that election night, that his face is all oven night, that his face is all over. that footage . yeah. that over. that footage. yeah. that archive. and so that's lost forever now. >> well , that's why i don't know >> well, that's why i don't know how lost those will be, because they are key moments of our history as a country. and he was the face of it. so i think with them taking it down, the doctor who like i don't think many people remembered those episodes. so actually by them doing that move, people are going to start asking , what are going to start asking, what are you going to do? the rest of the rest of these episodes ? rest of these episodes? interesting moments. >> yeah, there's another story, isn't there? who is barbara? butch. >> well, who is barbara? >> well, who is barbara? >> barbara? butch well, if most people watch the opening of the paris olympics and one of the most controversial moments was a scene that seemed like it was reflecting the last supper, which almost a lot of christians got offended by. and barbara butch was the dj that was at the table. she is now received a lot of abuse online, and she's now

filed a legal complaint saying that she's received death threats , harassments, rape threats, harassments, rape threats. and she said it's not on.the threats. and she said it's not on. the thing is, they're trying to justify that they weren't being offensive to christians. obviously, there's 2.4 billion christians worldwide who felt offended by that. but at the same time, it's not on for her to be receiving death threats against her life. >> here's what i think . which is >> here's what i think. which is i'm all for free speech and creative expression. so do the last supper. fine. yeah, but do the other religions too. and i won't hold my breath for that mark, you know why that didn't happen? >> because there would be no paris olympics left if they did try to make a mockery of other religions. and i think they see christianity as a very subdued and very forgiving religion. soft touch . and they thought it soft touch. and they thought it was okay, even though they've said we weren't trying to do that. at the same time, people have been offended, and that's why people have taken to social media. >> it's a shame , isn't it, >> it's a shame, isn't it, because one might argue that sport and religion should be kept separate. oh that's good. >> i definitely think,

especially when you're thinking about the olympics. the olympics celebrates that worldwide unity. and i think you don't want to put religion it for it to be debateable. there's so many things they could have done. i'm a christian, i love drag, i can appreciate drag and watch it, but when i saw that last supper esque kind of scene, it felt uncomfortable. i was like, you've had a good set up till then. you didn't need to do that. and even if you're trying to justify your actions, people are still going to be offended. and in this day and age, people go straight to social media. for me, it begs the question why? >> yeah, that's exactly it. >> yeah, that's exactly it. >> and some would argue that there's actually an agenda somehow to attack western values or christianity. i think it's been the worst olympics ever. team gb have been great. they have been. >> it's just it's a shame because france is a lovely country and i think they could have represented their country way better than they did. and i think all the controversy is overshadowed all of the hard work that they wanted to present to the world. but in this day and age, you know, people are

sensitive. they should have seen that scene and thought, people are going to be offended by this. >> and for me, it's a double standard. you know, as i say, i'm all for mockery as long as everyone gets mocked. stephanie. yes. hit me baby, one more time. >> i will hit you. mark. brittany she's coming . brittany she's coming. >> this relationship is toxic. >> this relationship is toxic. >> oh, yeah, they are . britney's >> oh, yeah, they are. britney's coming to the big screen. she released her memoir last year. the woman in me and now this week, she confirmed it's actually going to be turned into actually going to be turned into a biopic, which will make for quite interesting viewing for moviegoers, because we know britney's the path to fame hasn't been straight and narrow for britney , she's gone through. for britney, she's gone through. she went through the 13 year conservatorship with her father. she had the mental breakdown. she's now post conservatorship, so there's a lot that viewers will be seeing in this movie. but it begs to ask who's going to play britney? >> oh, i love britney. >> oh, i love britney. >> who is going to play britney? >> who is going to play britney? >> who is going to play britney? >> who would would play her? i don't know , fair haired actress. don't know, fair haired actress. >> i was thinking maybe cameron could be good. i was thinking

maybe margot robbie maybe. >> but from barbie. >> but from barbie. >> yeah. so i think she might be able to do it justice. but again, it will be a very interesting thing. obviously she's came for justin timberlake. she had the relationship with him. so there's going to be so many people that will have interesting parts to play in the britney story. >> she definitely deserves her say, doesn't she? she's had people speaking for her for so long. yeah. finally got a chance. >> well, she feels like she's finally got her voice back. and i think we know the story of britney. but i guess when you watch a biopic, you get to watch it in full. >> brilliant stuff. >> brilliant stuff. >> tatiana. it's all yours. >> tatiana. it's all yours. >> thanks, stephanie, for joining us. still to come, we'll be joined in the studio by former world record holder hold fire. >> and we're going to interrupt because we actually are going to go straight to sunderland for a press conference. a police press conference following trouble last nordeste. >> this was unforgivable violence and disorder in the face of these attacks, our officers showed unwavering commitment for which i wholeheartedly thank them . wholeheartedly thank them. >> and i'm sure that the overwhelming majority of the sunderland people also have that

sentiment . i can confirm that sentiment. i can confirm that four officers were taken to hospital for treatment last night . three received injuries night. three received injuries as a direct result of the disorder. in addition, one of our mounted riders sustained serious injuries in an accident and is receiving treatment in hospital. i also want to take this opportunity to thank our partners for the significant support they've shown and continue to show . now, a message continue to show. now, a message for those responsible . anyone for those responsible. anyone involved in the disorder can expect to be dealt with robustly, and that action has already begun. ten people have so far been arrested for a range of offences, including violent disorder and burglary. of offences, including violent disorder and burglary . a full disorder and burglary. a full investigation is now underway to identify those responsible . make identify those responsible. make no mistake, if you were involved last night, expect to be met with the full force of the law . with the full force of the law. i want to make it absolutely clear that the disorder,

violence and damage which has occurred will not be tolerated . occurred will not be tolerated. we also know the behaviour displayed in no way represents our friendly and welcoming region. we therefore want to deliver a further message direct to our communities. deliver a further message direct to our communities . we are aware to our communities. we are aware that criminal actions we saw last night can attempt to drive division amongst us, and we are committed to make sure that does not happen. we have incredibly close knit communities here within the north east region that we are proud to be part of and proud to serve. this is just one of the reasons which makes our region such a special place to live, work and visit . we are to live, work and visit. we are stronger together . thank you stronger together. thank you very much. >> good morning. my name is kelly chequer and i am the deputy leader of sunderland city council. i want to start by offering on behalf of the people offering on behalf of the people of sunderland, our heartfelt condolences to the people of

southport following the harrowing events on monday. what we saw last night in sunderland was nothing more than mindless violence and disorder, led by a minority with an agenda of hate . minority with an agenda of hate. what we saw was totally unacceptable. we know that , unacceptable. we know that, sadly, many of those in our city last night were not from from here, but came to cause chaos and stoke tensions. and i want to make it clear that there is no place for these people . they no place for these people. they are not welcome here. our teams have worked through the night to clean up this city. my huge thanks to them and the emergency services for their work to keep sunderland and its people safe. being here today , seeing being here today, seeing volunteers from across our city come together to support that clean up effort is heartening and reminds us of the warm and

friendly place that we know sunderland to be. our people are our greatest asset and we will support them as they will. no doubt support us to recover from the events of last night. we will continue to work with our communities and our partners in the coming days and weeks to offer reassurance, but i can say confidently that today sunderland is and its people, as we always do in the face of adversity. we'll come back from this stronger, better and closer together. thank you . together. thank you. >> 15 minutes. well, there we are, a defiant message from the authorities in sunderland after trouble last night in the aftermath of the murder of three little girls in southport on monday. more on that in our bulletins and throughout the afternoon . but tatiana, we've afternoon. but tatiana, we've got a rather more positive subject now, haven't we? >> we do. we are going to be

talking olympics and it is day eight of the paris olympics now . eight of the paris olympics now. and who better to reflect on team gb's success than a former world record holder and two time olympic medallist? as we enter into the second week of the summer games, the athletics events are now well underway and our final guest for today knows a thing or two about it and what it takes to succeed . winning it takes to succeed. winning bronze medals in 1984 and a silver medal in 1988. >> and good news because team gb have won another gold this morning in the men's eights. >> so we're delighted now to welcome olympic javelin thrower fatima whitbread to saturday morning. fatma, welcome to the show. it's so nice to have you here. thank you. you've obviously been keeping across all of the latest olympic news, haven't you? >> i've been thrilled about like everybody else to see such a wonderful array of success that we're getting even. it's probably the most that we've won at this stage of an olympics. so fantastic to see the equestrian,

the rowing, the trampoline, swimming, diving, they're all doing marvellous. you know, it's a wonderful experience for them as well. i mean, olympics is all about solidarity, respect and friendship. and i can remember my four different olympics that i went to that you know, building good friendships with other, you know, sportsmen and women across the spectrum of sports that there is. and i noficed sports that there is. and i noticed that, mr murray was out there. yeah. collecting pins. i think he got one from simone biles , that's one of the things biles, that's one of the things that a lot of the athletes like to do in the village exchange pins for, you know, olympic pins. and this is a wonderful opportunity, i think, for young people today, you know, to come together and compete at the highest level against the best of the rest in the world. but also it's about friendship and respect and solidarity, because there's not enough of that going on these days. right. >> you've said that sport was your saviour. how so?

>> well, i was abandoned as a baby, some would say left to die, a neighbour heard a baby crying in a flat and hadn't seen anybody coming. so you were on your own in a property? >> yes, a couple of weeks old. a few weeks old? yeah. >> probably only 2 or 3 weeks old. had i been left there for another day, then i would have probably been deceased. >> and you were heard crying by a neighbour, by a neighbour. >> and fortunately, she was vigilant enough to notice that nobody had come or gone in a few days. so she called the police, who banged the door down, rescued the baby, which was myself, and of course, i was spent seven months in hospital recovering from malnutrition and nappy rash. >> i got over the nappy rash and of course then from then onwards i was made a ward of court and spent my next 14 years in children's homes. >> so yes, i mean, i mean, children are misunderstood a lot of the time. they have a lot of trauma and triggers abandonment issues , neglect. and, you know, issues, neglect. and, you know, it's very hard for a youngster

growing up in the care system. and i think i've said it so many times, i actually do my campaign for animals uk campaign, fighting for children and young people that matter. >> well yeah. let's thank you. get rid of that strap if you can. let's have a look at, that we support fatima's uk campaign. children and young people matter. the website is fatima's campaign.com. so what does the campaign.com. so what does the campaign aim to do? >> the campaign actually works in 2 or 3 different ways. the first thing is i'm bringing a summit together of all the care system sector next year, april 2025, on the 23rd and 24th of april to bring together a collaboration of and harnessing the power of one voice with the four nations to improve good practice, shared good knowledge with decision makers, influencers and also society in the areas of community where they can improve and help life expectancy for children. you know, improving their life

outcomes. so housing, affordable housing, mental health issues, education. we have a 110,000 kids in the care system as we speak. wow. and there is a shortage of 10,000 foster carers . shortage of 10,000 foster carers. so finding loving secure homes is the most important thing. so if you think you can offer a child a loving, supporting, caring home, open your heart, open your home. it will be one of the nicest and rewarding things that you can do for child. >> and i was, you know, talking to you a little bit briefly about, you know, my family are involved in in children's homes too . so i think we'd love to get too. so i think we'd love to get involved with something like that with you if you , if you'd that with you if you, if you'd have us. but how important is something like this to then help children later on in life? you you can speak from personal experience and look at you now. olympic medallist. >> yeah. well obviously i mean 14 years in incarcerated in children's homes back then in the 60s is totally different in terms of the residential homes they have today and the corporate parenting they have. but fundamentally , not a lot has

but fundamentally, not a lot has changed in the 60 years since i've been in the care system. i've been in the care system. i've seen governments come and go kick that same tin can down the road, it's really important to give our young people the chances. and, you know , of chances. and, you know, of improving their, their life opfions improving their, their life options and building a good foundation, a happier lives, better communities, a nicer kind of society. so early intervention is really important. yeah. because who and what these children become will define what society ends up. and we need to be able to , you know, we need to be able to, you know, work hard, give them opportunities to actually break that cycle of what's happening to them. we know that 18 years of age that, you know, they go independent living, but 33% of them end up homeless, you know, and you know, in two years that they go independent living most conventional families, as we know, they stay at home for as long as 26.89 because they have to now. they have to now, they can't afford it. right. these children don't have bank of mum and dad, nannies or granddads

aunts and uncles. they need our help. so we all got a moral and ethical response. >> i think it's brilliant and i want to get to the olympics again. but you you are going to go to the pyrenees, the pyrenees. >> i've just got back from everest and this is a sponsored trek you're going to do. yes. now, i personally i fund all this myself. i'm. it's because the cause is close to my heart that i the cause is close to my heart thati do the cause is close to my heart that i do what i do. so the most important thing is to make these children visible. you know, they've been invisible for so long. they've got to be seen, heard and valued. and that's the most important thing. pyrenees is a 100 mile trek from the bay of biscay , france, to spain and of biscay, france, to spain and back. >> and how are you going to keep going? energy bars. i mean, what's what's the plan? you're obviously very driven, mark. >> yeah. and i am fit. are you as fit as fit as you've ever been? >> virtually. >> virtually. >> i've since post olympic years. yeah. i mean, the olympics gave me the look . i'm a olympics gave me the look. i'm a very strong inner strength from my childhood primary care years, but also the trained amount of

as an olympic athlete. >> footage of you in your pomp. >> footage of you in your pomp. >> yes. i mean, athletics and world. the olympics, world championships, world record holding those that gave me the dedication of hard work. you know, i mean, that's a wonderful thrower. i mean, always impressed with watching it myself . myself. >> are you will you be watching the javelin? >> what do you think when you watch people doing the javelin now at the olympics and you think, oh, you've not quite got your gait there or , you know, ho. 110. >> no. >> everyone's different shape and size. i mean obviously it depends. you hear it all the time with swimmers. they have big hands, big claws. you know, javelin throwers i mean back then i was quite short really for a javelin thrower. so you have to look specifically at what you're doing in your training. and you'll see a lot of athletes work exceptionally hard throughout the winter months in preparation for once every four years is the olympics. you know , to be able olympics. you know, to be able to actually compete and hopefully win gold medals. so two questions for you. >> what would be your top three

favourite olympic? sports or categories? yeah and also thoughts on on on the latest boxing controversy. probably more importantly that, what are your thoughts on on on the latest. >> it's always a tough call. i don't know the total ins and outs of scientifically or what the ioc have said. and you've got to go by what the governing board say. you know, they've got the facts and figures in front of them. i you know, i mean, like everybody else, i've been amazed to see what i've seen. but having said that, i mean, you know, we see it all the time, you know, unfortunately, sometimes you're born into a different shape and size and who you are, you know, in terms of, you are, you know, in terms of, you know , genetic. you know, genetic. >> a biological male would certainly have an advantage in the javelin or would have thought, would they? >> of course, you'd see a massive difference with the distance. it's the same with a punch. distance. it's the same with a punch . with a punch. i know it's punch. with a punch. i know it's about 160% harder to be hit in

the face, by a man than it is a woman. so yeah, i kind of. yeah, it's a but as far as the three events go, i mean , three sports. events go, i mean, three sports. i love what i'm seeing in the swimming. i love the gymnastics, the equestrian is. well, i've been offered by a former rowing champion to row across the atlantic. actually next year, 300 miles. i'm not sure whether i'll do that challenge. i love a challenge. obviously and as i say, it's all for the cause of lie—in. >> it's a great cause. fatima's campaign comm. good luck in the pyrenees. >> please go online and give as generously as you can, because this will help make a difference to these young children's lives. fatima's campaign. com. thank you for your legendary. >> let me do that one more time families campaign.com. brilliant stuff. >> campaign dot com. >> campaign dot com. >> we've got the message across. >> we've got the message across. >> what a privilege to have fatima in the studio. a true british sporting hero . yayi british sporting hero. yayi >> come on out, brits. >> come on out, brits. >> let's go. >> let's go. >> can i say, tatiana, you've

smashed it. today is your first presenting gig on gb news. >> it is? yeah, the first of many. >> my debut. as i say. >> my debut. as i say. >> oh, girl. girl power. horrified >> horrified to hear that i'm back at nine tonight for mark dolan tonight 9 to 11. big opinion. take at ten and

>> oh good afternoon. it's 12:00 on saturday the 3rd of august. this is the weekend on gb news and i hope you're having a wonderful weekend out there. now, after another night of serious violence on the streets as protesters attack, a police office, set a car on fire and surround a mosque in sunderland . surround a mosque in sunderland. then a tory leadership hopeful, kemi badenoch, says the country can't pretend that integration is working. does she have a point on that one, though? and olympic chiefs have been urged to reintroduce sex testing for

female athletes to