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the next few hours, me and for the next few hours, me and my panel will be taking on some of the big topics. hitting the headlines. right now, this show is all about opinion. headlines. right now, this show is all about opinion . it's mine. is all about opinion. it's mine. it's theirs. and of course it's yours. we'll be debating, discussing and at times we will disagree. but no one will be cancelled. so joining me in a few moments, time broadcaster and journalist danny kelly and also gb news senior political commentator nigel nelson . coming commentator nigel nelson. coming up, prince harry. apparently he wants to come home after a string of business disasters. word on the street is that harry wants to return to the uk. lived a life with the royal family. you've had everything handed to you, but you say your life has been hard and now you've written all about it. in your new book, where.7 >> yes, that's right fans. you see, my wife and i are totally like, you should write a book because your family's like stupid and then so are like journalists . journalists. >> i love that i never get tired of that. the worldwide privacy tour is over. would you welcome harry back? you'll hear my thoughts in my nickel. then the
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wealthy, they are leaving the united kingdom in their droves. will labour's misery manifesto push them off? the edge? stay tuned. we'll find out more. also we'll be going live to israel to speak to uri geller, where protests are taking place after the body of six hostages were recovered from gaza , where polio recovered from gaza, where polio vaccinations are currently underway , and trans person scott underway, and trans person scott nugent will be live to discuss the bma's latest intervention in the bma's latest intervention in the cass report . but before we the cass report. but before we get started, let's get your latest news with will hollis . latest news with will hollis. >> nana. thank you. good afternoon. the top story at 3:00. sir keir starmer has joined world leaders condemning what he's described as the horrific and senseless killing of six hostages in gaza. us president joe biden's also said he's devastated and outraged by the news, while the israeli prime minister insists he won't rest until those responsible are
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caught. here are live pictures now from the funeral of 27 year old almog seroussi. hundreds have gathered to pay their respects in the city of ra'anana in israel. these are now pictures coming from us to coming to us from jerusalem, where families have gathered to put pressure on benjamin netanyahu to make an immediate deal with hamas . meanwhile, deal with hamas. meanwhile, a pause in fighting has begun in gaza, allowing international aid agencies to launch a mass polio vaccination campaign. over 600,000 children under ten will be treated during breaks in the conflict over the next three days. it follows the first confirmed case of polio in the territory in 25 years, with a ten month old baby now paralysed by the virus. the ceasefire will only last during daylight hours. ukraine. now they've launched a wave of drone attacks targeting russian power stations and oil
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refineries, sparking fires. mobile footage shows thick smoke as flames engulf one site near moscow. russia claims its air defences have destroyed more than 150 drones in the latest air attacks. turning back to the uk now, the head of the police watchdog in england and wales claims the criminal justice system is dysfunctional. andy cook told the sunday telegraph that too often officers are getting the basics wrong . he's getting the basics wrong. he's also described the lack of prison places as a nightmare. speaking on the camilla tominey show this morning, shadow home secretary james cleverly said we need to get back to the cornerstone of british policing. >> they need to focus on the crimes that affect people's everyday lives. when i was home secretary, i made it absolutely clear they were to pursue all reasonable lines of inquiry. they were to crack down on shoplifting this idea. there was a £200 limit. get rid of that .
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a £200 limit. get rid of that. because if you don't crack down on the small crimes, those criminals get more and more severe and then you have a real problem . problem. >> floral tributes have been laid after a man and three children, all under the age of four, were found dead in a home in staines. police discovered the bodies on saturday afternoon with neighbours identifying the family as a young polish household with twins. authorities believe it was an isolated incident and the children's mother is being supported by specialist officers. surrey police has referred the case to the independent office for police conduct, due to the previous police contact with the family. police are pushing to get charges upgraded against two men accused of separate attacks at the notting hill carnival. both victims have now died, leading police to launch a murder investigations. one was a mother stabbed in front of her young child, the other a chef who worked with gordon ramsay, the home secretary called the news
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deeply distressing and shocking. yvette cooper condemned the terrible and appalling violence , terrible and appalling violence, stating it has no place on our streets, an absence epidemic. that's how the education secretary described the number of pupils missing school. bridget phillipson claimed too many mums and dads are letting kids skip school for holidays, birthdays or even a runny nose. the government's crackdown aims to tackle the growing issue as the new year begins. oasis are urging fans to be wary of counterfeit and void tickets on the resale market. all the uk and ireland dates for the reunion have now sold out in less than one day, but some fans have been complaining about the process, which saw websites use a dynamic pricing system. it means if demand is high, the sites can increase the price . sites can increase the price. the met office has extended thunderstorm warnings across a
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large part of the uk . much of large part of the uk. much of england, wales and scotland is now covered by the alert for today and for tomorrow. forecasters say there's a risk of flooding because of heavy showers and hail . and finally, showers and hail. and finally, in sport, great britain's ben pritchard has won paralympic rowing gold in the pr1 men's single sculls. the welshman charged to victory over the last 500m. pritchard's victory is britain's first in the division since tom argos gold at the 2008 games in beijing . now those are games in beijing. now those are the latest gb news headlines. i'm will hollis more in 30 minutes for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com. >> forward slash alerts . >> forward slash alerts. >> forward slash alerts. >> thank you. well, doing a sterling job as new right. it's coming up to seven minutes after 3:00. i'm nana akua. welcome. this is gb news. we're live on
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tv online and on digital radio. coming up for the great british debate this hour, i'm asking, would you welcome prince harry back after serving a four year self—inflicted exile in california, the prince is reportedly speaking to former royal advisers on how to return to the uk . then is labour's to the uk. then is labour's misery manifesto scaring off investment? it's as top earners and entrepreneurs are reportedly already fleeing the country, ahead of chancellor rachel reeves expected tax raids. and for worldview this hour i'll be bringing you the latest from israel as six bodies of gaza hostages are recovered. as ever, i'd love to hear your thoughts on everything we discussed some of your thoughts. post your comments gbnews.com forward slash your say . so we're comments gbnews.com forward slash your say. so we're going to start this hour with southport now southport pleasureland along with the local branch of the royal british legion , is hosting british legion, is hosting a southport together music and
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entertainment day. now it's aiming to raise £1 million for the charity in the wake of the fatal stabbings in southport, which shocked the country. gb news north west of england reporter sophie reaper is there and joins me now. sophie, what are you doing? you're on the edge of something. what the hell is it ? are you. is it? are you. >> we're currently on a roller coaster. nana. we're actually just about to go down the big moment. it's time for a picture . moment. it's time for a picture. oh, it's a ladybird. and the reason we're on it, it's a caterpillar. the reason we're on this roller coaster is because this roller coaster is because this community here in southport has gone through one of the biggest tragedies in the past few weeks . but what today is all few weeks. but what today is all aboutis few weeks. but what today is all about is that community coming together once again and just feeling joy and happiness once more. that's what the people here today have been telling me, is that although it's been incredibly tragic and heartbreaking that they want to come along, they want to bring their children and they want to prove to them that they can
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still go out and have fun. they can still go out and be safe. and that is what today is all about. of course, it's also about. of course, it's also about raising that £1 million. here we go again. about raising that £1 million. here we go again . woo it's that here we go again. woo it's that one. it always gets me that one. but it's about raising that money as well for those hospitals and for the north west air ambulance service, who are some of the first responders on that tragic day? five weeks ago? so if you're watching this is a brilliant cause for those charities. people have come along, they're enjoying the foods , they're enjoying the foods, they're enjoying the games. they're certainly enjoying the rides. i can see lots of happy faces on this ride here behind me today. lots of happy faces on this ride here behind me today . people here behind me today. people have come. they're just coming together as a community and saying they're not going to let this tragedy bring their spirits down. they're going to enjoy life because life, as they say , life because life, as they say, nana life is a roller coaster here. we go. very good. >> i thought you were going to say life is short. i was going to say name something that's longer. thank you very much .
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longer. thank you very much. sophie reaper. she's out there on a roller coaster. >> the roller coaster of life. >> the roller coaster of life. >> fabulous. love that . right. >> fabulous. love that. right. so welcome. if you've just tuned in, this is gb news just coming up to 11 minutes after 3:00 operation bring harry home in from the cold is apparently underway. according to the daily mail, prince harry is seeking advice from former aides on how to return to the uk after spending the past four years in self—imposed exile in california. now he allegedly is growing dissatisfied with advice from american based image experts, although it seems they've become dissatisfied with a lot of them. i think they're still looking for another head of communications now. but joining me to discuss former bbc royal correspondent michael cole. michael, operation bring harry in from the cold. >> good afternoon. >> good afternoon. >> nana. yes >> nana. yes >> so it seems the golden state, california, isn't quite so gilded as maybe he thought it was. it's the same weather every day. >> mudslides and of course,
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forest fires at certain seasons. but let's be clear about this. >> this isn't prince harry seeking to end his self—imposed four year exile to montecito. what he's doing, according to pals back in britain, is he wants to improve his image on this side of the atlantic so that he can come here more often and more easily. and apparently he even has thoughts of, performing small minor , perhaps, performing small minor, perhaps, royal duties . well, on that last royal duties. well, on that last point, i think, in the words of cassius clay , muhammad ali, in cassius clay, muhammad ali, in a completely different context, the chances of that are between slim and none. but that apparently seems to be his purpose. and he has got friends over here. maybe he renewed his acquaintance when he was here on wednesday. remember he went to the memorial service to his
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uncle , lord robert fellowes, in uncle, lord robert fellowes, in nonh uncle, lord robert fellowes, in north norfolk. so i'm sure coming back here in mid—summer, when the english countryside looks glorious and when he has many , many friends and knows the many, many friends and knows the area around sandringham , perhaps area around sandringham, perhaps that sort of tugged at his heartstrings. and he realised what he's lost. >> well, the sceptics amongst us might perhaps suggest that his paperback version of spare is coming out. he's decided that he's not going to update it in any sort of way, because sometimes they do, don't they? and put other stuff in that wasn't in the hardback, and that's coming out in, what, three weeks or so. some might say that he's actually doing that to talking about this just to make himself more relevant so he can sell more books. >> yeah, i think the contract obviously included a paperback edition, but he hasn't he hasn't added new chapters and he hasn't written a preface or an afterword to increase and renew the anguish which has caused his family by these revelations and very cruel and unkind remarks.
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>> and he won't be promoting it. so i think that is a bit of a peace feeler. it's a bit of a token, maybe it's his way of saying, look, i'm very sorry, or i'm slightly sorry, or i would like to be forgiven a little bit for what i've done. i don't know, because what, montecito is probably beyond all of us, but it would be only natural because his whole life was here. he was extremely popular, he gave two very. he gave great service to the armed forces, two army tours in afghanistan. and he was tremendously popular. and he could have been such a great, asset along with his wife in the 54 countries of the commonwealth. they could have done great work. and it's the greatest pity that they left in a hurry, as they did first for the canada and then for california, which may have been her destination. all along. but,
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you know, if you live in california, it's wonderful in a way. but after a while it does get a little bit boring. it's the same people. it's, you know, la is a great big freeway. i mean, that's what it says in the song. and it's certainly true. obviously, he lives in great luxury at montecito, but is that enough?i luxury at montecito, but is that enough? i mean, he hasn't had a he hasn't had what most of us would recognise as a full time job since he left the army. >> you think maybe he's just getting bored and perhaps in his head, he's just beginning to realise that life is not just about bits and pieces and money. it's about the people, the relationships that you have. and those are the things that are the real value. i suspect part of this is because meghan markle did not realise that in, i think in her mind, and obviously i've never met the woman , so but this never met the woman, so but this is just what i can see of her, that she was taken in by the glitzy hollywood golden signs and all those things , whereas and all those things, whereas he's had all that. he doesn't need that. and in fact that's
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been with him all his life effortlessly. so now she's finally maybe they've come to the same place now and she's acknowledged that actually, all that glitters isn't gold . that glitters isn't gold. >> look, if you're a member of the royal family you just are. you just are. you don't have to do anything else. if you're a semi—detached member of the royal family, you have to be and you have to be doing busy things to be going to nigeria and colombia and you have to be making speeches and going to new york at the same time as maybe your brother is there. you have to justify your existence, you know, what have they they've got to sell their selling point is celebrity and how you how you sell that is very important. you know, the thing about america is that, this country, britain, is the home of nostalgia. that's why the old hollywood stars come here and appear in panto and all that sort of stuff over there in america. they want what's new, what's novelty? the first question you get is what are you doing now? now the americans have heard what they've had to
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say. they've seen it all, they've listened. and they gave him a warm welcome. but after a while, it's a little bit deja vu. you know what's next? >> more whingeing. it was just it was just the same old record complaining about his family and this and that. i think we've all heard enough. i mean, that i think that that's the shot of i think that that's the shot of i think it's marie tillman, the wife of pat tillman. he, of course , collected the pat course, collected the pat tillman award. that wasn't in great taste because there was a petition with over 70,000 names on it that said that he shouldn't pick it up . so do you shouldn't pick it up. so do you think, actually, what's happened is, as you said , they're sort of is, as you said, they're sort of really kind of losing favour in the states as well, because what's happened to meghan's american riviera orchard as well? i mean, what's going on with that ? with that? >> yeah. well, somebody said today, you know , that she's made today, you know, that she's made a few jars of jam and some something else, dog biscuits. was it. i can't remember , but was it. i can't remember, but you know, that's not going to stack the shelves, is it? i think i'm not an expert on body language and so on. but if you look at him , even in colombia,
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look at him, even in colombia, when he was with her and everything, he looked a little bit of a fish out of water. he didn't look terribly happy. he wasn't the happy prince we remembered, you know, he was all full of life, joking with usain bolt on the running field, always full of jokes, always happy, and very, very close to his brother and sister in law. they couldn't have been closer . they couldn't have been closer. so it's a great sadness. you know, it's a great, great sadness. blessed are the peacemakers because they'll inherit the earth. that what they need is a peacemaker there. but it's going to take a lot of humble pie on his part and a lot of fence pulling. a lot of fence mending. >> well, let's see if he's prepared to apologise. i'm not so sure. but remember how we felt about camilla parker bowles and her behaviour has been exemplary. and so we all love her now. so michael cole, thank you very much for talking to me. that's the brilliant michael cole. you're with me. i'm nana. akua. this is gb news. we're live on tv , online and on live on tv, online and on digital radio. coming up, i'll be getting the latest from
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israel after six bodies of hostages were recovered. next, though, it's time for the great british debate this hour. i'm asking, would you welcome prince harry back? this is
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gb news. good afternoon. welcome. if you gb news. good afternoon. welcome. if you just tuned in, this is gb news. just tuned in, this is gb news. i'm nana akua 21 minutes after 3:00. we're live on tv , online i'm nana akua 21 minutes after 3:00. we're live on tv , online 3:00. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. and it's 3:00. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. and it's time now for the great british time now for the great british debate. this hour i'm asking, debate. this hour i'm asking, would you welcome prince harry would you welcome prince harry back? operation bring harry in back? operation bring harry in from the cold is apparently from the cold is apparently under way. i from the cold is apparently underway. i mean, from the cold is apparently under way. i mean, why did he under way. i from the cold is apparently underway. i mean, from the cold is apparently under way. i mean, why did he bother going out in the cold in bother going out in the cold in the first place? i hate the the first place? i hate the cold. according to the daily cold. according to the daily mail, prince harry is seeking mail, prince harry is seeking advice from former aides on how advice from former aides on how to return to the uk after to return to the uk after spending the past four years in spending the past four years in self—imposed exile in self—imposed exile in california. he's allegedly california. he's allegedly growing dissatisfied with the growing dissatisfied with the advice from american based image advice from american based image
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experts. they've sacked pretty experts. they've sacked pretty
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book , and write a book, basically slagging off your brother who's going to be the future king, i think his brother doesn't get on with him. a lot of animus there . with him. a lot of animus there. the queen, of course, queen camilla, he basically, as i as i remember, he was trying to get his dad not to marry her, didn't he? yeah. all of these horrible names. there's no need for it. >> so all of a sudden, i think he's burnt his bridges. he's going to be struggle to be welcomed back. >> there will be a hard core of people who just love prince harry and they'll welcome him back. but generally speaking, i think he's going to be an unpopular figure. >> nigel nelson i'd like to see him back. >> i was very sorry that he decided to give up royal duties. i don't think it was necessary, but obviously that was a matter for him and meghan, >> he's now about to reach 40. >> he's now about to reach 40. >> he's obviously having a bit of a midlife crisis and working out what to do with the rest of his life. i would, i think coming back would actually be great. he's obviously he's got a lot of, bridges to rebuild if he story or some of the sunday's broke the storytorat story or some of the sunday's broke the storyto rebuild if he does. so i mean, the first with lot of, bridges to rebuild if he does. so i mean, the first with his father, which will probably his father, which will probably be easier than with william. but be easier than with william. but should those bridges be able to should those bridges be able to
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be built and he was able to be built and he was able to return to some kind of royal return to some kind of royal duties, i think that we should duties, i think that we should welcome that, i know what has welcome that, i know what has happenedin welcome that, i know what has happened in the past, but at least he's not exacerbated it by happenedin welcome that, i know what has happened in the past, but at least he's not exacerbated it by giving too many interviews giving too many interviews recently, slagging off the royal recently, slagging off the royal family. >> i think there's nothing else family. >> i think there's nothing else to say, is there? but he's also to say, is there? but he's also his paperback version of his his paperback version of his bookis his paperback version of his book is coming out in a couple bookis his paperback version of his book is coming out in a couple of weeks, and apparently he's not, he's not, he's not changing of weeks, and apparently he's not, he's not, he's not changing it . it. it . it. >> so he's not it.— >> so he's not he's not it. >> so he's not he's not updating it that well. i don't know. he >> so he's not it.— >> so he's not he's not it. >> so he's not he's not updating it that well. i don't know. he would have done a contract would have done a contract anyway. so there's no way he anyway. so there's no way he could actually get out of the could actually get out of the paperback book. but, what i paperback book. but, what i gather there is the book itself gather there is the book itself is not being updated. so in is not being updated. so in other words, there's no fresh other words, there's no fresh insults in there, so it's the insults in there, so it's the same book as the hardback. would same book as the hardback. would you be fine , you be fine , you be fine, >> i think that the public have you be fine, >> i think that the public have learnt a lot about them as personalities and their learnt a lot about them as personalities and their characters and interestingly, characters and interestingly, nana, you just reminded us that nana, you just reminded us that they're on to their 10th they're on to their 10th personal adviser only 2 or 3 personal adviser only 2 or 3 hours ago. hours ago. >> i think gb news broke the >> i think gb news broke the story or some of the sunday's story or some of the sunday's
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broke the story that broke the story that the 10th has now left, so they've had enough of them now , why do ten people. >> no, seriously, there's something about the personalities that you can't hide. you can't mask your true personality, whether it's a combination of meghan and harry or whether it's meghan individually or harry individually. but if people are reluctant to work for them, that gives you an insight into what they're like and their personalities. and i think people the british public have sort of forget the book for a second. i think the british pubuc second. i think the british public have thought, you know, i don't think you're that nice people. i just think that you're a bit unpleasant. well remember that. >> okay. so you remember the oprah interview. how could we possibly forget where they said that somebody in the royal family had talked about the colour of the unborn child's skin? now, in where i'm from, we ask that all the time. and my kids, my son is called ivory and i thought i made the joke. what if he comes out really dark? because ivory is obviously a light colour , so you know, so we light colour, so you know, so we were having a laugh about that. that's not evil. that's not wicked. no, no, i suspect that there's sort of been a misunderstanding and
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yeah , recollection. >> yeah, recollection. >> yeah, recollection. >> so it may well be more, you
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know, more like the kind of know, more like the kind of conversation that you've just had with danny there by saying conversation that you've just had with danny there by saying you might be interested in how a you might be interested in how a babyis you might be interested in how a babyis you might be interested in how a baby is going to look if you if baby is going to look if you if you've got a mixed marriage. so you've got a mixed marriage. so i can i can see that. i can i can see that. >> but the, the important thing >> but the, the important thing here is that she let it get here is that she let it get developed by oprah winfrey into developed by oprah winfrey into a race car. that's right. it a race car. that's right. it did. that's the big thing. she did. that's the big thing. she should at that point had said, should at that point had said, no, oprah. there was nothing to no, oprah. there was nothing to do with race. do with race. >> it was just purely interest, >> it was just purely interest, that's all. that's all. >> but oprah, like her jaw hit >> but oprah, like her jaw hit >> but oprah, like herjaw hit the floor and she goes, you >> but oprah, like herjaw hit the floor and she goes, you what? >> he said what? what? >> he said what? >> he said what? >> and of course, all of a sudden it was a story about zoom >> he said what? >> and of course, all of a sudden it was a story about zoom in on that. >> what? >> what? >> but but oprah, all of a in on that. >> what? >> what? >> but but oprah, all of a sudden it was a story about sudden it was a story about race. >> but she wanted a great race. >> but she wanted a great interview. so, so oprah interview. so, so oprah obviously sort of wound it up. >> but yeah, but meghan didn't obviously sort of wound it up. >> but yeah, but meghan didn't stop her. >> no, i know, i know, i stop her. >> no, i know, i know, i appreciate that she allowed it appreciate that she allowed it to evolve didn't she? >> she went, well, that is a to evolve didn't she? >> she went, well, that is a fair assumption to make. when fair assumption to make. when oprah said so would that be the, oprah said so would that be the, you know, based on the colour of you know, based on the colour of his skin? and she went, that is his skin? and she went, that is a fair assumption to make. so, a fair assumption to make. so, you know, she did not back down you know, she did not back down on that. no, no, i agree. on that. no, no, i agree. >> i mean, they were leading >> i mean, they were leading questions . but then that's what questions . but then that's what questions. but then that's what an interview should do. >> and they had the nerve to questions. but then that's what an interview should do. >> and they had the nerve to blame it on the british press.
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there an and i do agree that there is an argument that that shouldn't be allowed, but that's life. and if you have such privilege, you have to acknowledge to take the good with the bad. and they weren't prepared to do that. before we move on, though, i wanted to get your views because we're not talking about it today. but i wanted to get your thoughts, danny, in particular on, what's his name ? keir on, what's his name? keir starmer taking down the picture of mark thatcher in the thatcher room . room. >> do you know a lot of people i know who voted labour almost feel like they've been conned by him. >> they really do. they regret their vote. it reminds me somewhat. i'm going to take you back 25, 30 years. graeme souness, who used to manage galatasaray, a turkish team, once got the galatasaray flag at the end of a very hostile derby, completely unnecessary and ran over to the other side and their fans and planted the flag in the in the ground or something, just to divide. >> keir starmer said that he was going to unify the country. why he has to remove a portrait of margaret thatcher. >> it's unnecessary , it's >> it's unnecessary, it's pounng >> it's unnecessary, it's pouring flames onto it and that's why people feel con. >> they feel a little bit conned about the smoking ban outside. he reckons it's going to save
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lives. i can't see how banning someone smoking outside is going to save lives, but that's his view. but also, there's no need to actually remove the portrait of margaret thatcher, a divisive figure. >> all it does is just inflame the situation. >> but all that's happened is it's been relocated , not removed. >> that's not the point. >> that's not the point. >> so the thatcher from the thatcher room, i appreciate that. i mean, the argument goes that. i mean, the argument goes that this is a place this is it's his home as well as his workplace. i mean, he lives above the shop and if you spend so much time doing that, and that's one of the rooms he uses for work, you might like to rearrange the pictures in the room. the next prime minister may come , come along and decide may come, come along and decide to put it back. i don't see why it's a major issue. if you're thinking that's a bit uncomfortable. >> i think what it does, though, is gives you a measure of the man. it means that he's very feel conned about, i think. >> i “it meansw ,, he's”??? feel conned about, i think. >> i “it meansw ,, he's very ,, man. it means that he's very thin skinned. yeah. doesn't it? thin skinned. yeah. doesn't it? i mean, look, if you can't i mean, look, if you can't handle a picture of a woman as handle a picture of a woman as well , let's let's look at the well , let's let's look at the well, let's let's look at the opfics well, let's let's look at the optics here. she's a woman. he well, let's let's look at the opfics well, let's let's look at the optics here. she's a woman. he spent a long time not being able spent a long time not being able to say what a woman is. and he to say what a woman is. and he even said that a woman has a even said that a woman has a penis, which we all know is penis, which we all know is absolutely absurd. that still absolutely absurd. that still cracks me up . cracks me up .
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cracks me up. >> perhaps we won't go down that cracks me up. >> perhaps we won't go down that route. >> does he not realise it's the route. >> does he not realise it's the sort of naivety of that that he sort of naivety of that that he doesn't understand how that will doesn't understand how that will come across, and also why would come across, and also why would he be so thin skinned? >> which is obviously why my he be so thin skinned? >> which is obviously why my monologue was called tin man monologue was called tin man versus iron lady. why would he versus iron lady. why would he be so thin skinned? be so thin skinned? >> you see, i see it as a bit >> you see, i see it as a bit more prosaic than that. just more prosaic than that. just simply looked around that room simply looked around that room and thought, i don't like that picture, and therefore i'm going and thought, i don't like that picture, and therefore i'm going to move it . to move it . to move it. >> what about the fallout it's to move it. >> what about the fallout it's caused? well, is that worth all caused? well, is that worth all of the fallout that it's caused? of the fallout that it's caused? >> i'm not sure he actually >> i'm not sure he actually actually thought it was going to actually thought it was going to be made public, but but it has be made public, but but it has done. and i think if he'd known done. and i think if he'd known he was going to be made public, he was going to be made public, he was going to be made public, he wouldn't have done it . so it he was going to be made public, he wouldn't have done it . so it he wouldn't have done it. so it was it was something it was a he wouldn't have done it. so it was it was something it was a very normal thing to do. >> naive of him, isn't it, to remove a margaret thatcher portrait, thinking it's not going to be made public in the thatcher room, which has so many visitors all the time? it was his , it was his. his, it was his. >> it was his biographer who blew the gaff on this one. yeah, >> maybe his biographer has a, has a, has a grandma who's about to lose her winter fuel allowance. >> well, maybe he has. >> well, maybe he has. >> that's another thing people feel conned about, i think.
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>> i �*it means... ,, recovered from underground tunrgrandmother. h, recovered from underground tunrgrandmother. it's sad and one grandmother. it's sad and not at all healthy. and julia says harry returning here because he's not happy with life overin because he's not happy with life over in the states. that's why he's not happy. that's why he's here. that's why he wants to come back. that's what you think. keep them coming .
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think. keep them coming. gbnews.com/yoursay next, my gbnews.com/yoursay next, my great british debate i'm asking great british debate i'm asking is labour's misery manifesto is labour's misery manifesto scaring off investment top scaring off investment top earners and entrepreneurs are earners and entrepreneurs are apparently fleeing the country apparently fleeing the country after rachel reeves. she's after rachel reeves. she's expected to raid everybody's expected to raid everybody's tax. but first, your latest news tax. but first, your latest news headunes tax. but first, your latest news headlines with will hollis . headunes tax. but first, your latest news headlines with will hollis . headlines with will hollis. >> thank you. nana it's just headlines with will hollis. >> thank you. nana it's just gone 330 i'm will hollis here in gone 330 i'm will hollis here in the gb newsroom. some breaking news for you . now two teenagers the gb newsroom. some breaking news for you . now two teenagers news for you. now two teenagers have been arrested over the news for you. now two teenagers have been arrested over the murder of a 13 year old boy in murder of a 13 year old boy in oldbury, west midlands. oldbury, west midlands. murder of a 13 year old boy in oldbury, west midlands . police oldbury, west midlands. police said the teens are being held in murder of a 13 year old boy in oldbury, west midlands . police oldbury, west midlands. police said the teens are being held in connection with the fatal connection with the fatal stabbing in lovett avenue stabbing in earlier this week. they're being questioned in custody and the family of the 13 year old killed are aware of those new developments. israel's prime minister says he won't rest until those responsible for killing six hostages in gaza are caught. killing six hostages in gaza are caught . the bodies are were caught. the bodies are were recovered from underground
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connection with the fatal stabbingaircraft crashed into an a small aircraft crashed into an industrial estate in chesterfield. roads around the area are closed and will remain shut while investigations continue . people have been asked continue. people have been asked to avoid the area and the met office has extended thunderstorm warnings across a large part of the uk , much of england, wales the uk, much of england, wales and scotland is now covered by the alert for today and for tomorrow. forecasters say there's a risk of flooding because of heavy showers and hail . and finally, great hail. and finally, great britain's ben pritchard has won paralympic rowing gold in the pr1 men's single sculls. the welshman charged to victory over the last 500m. pritchard's victory is britain's first in the division since tom agar's gold at the 2008 games in beijing. and that's all of your headunes beijing. and that's all of your headlines for now. i'm will hollis more in 30 minutes for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr
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>> welcome back. 39 minutes after 3:00. you're with me. i'm nana akua. this is a dup news. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. and it's time now for the great british debate this hour. and i'm asking is labour's misery manifesto scaring off investment? and this is, as top earners and entrepreneurs are reportedly already fleeing the country ahead of chancellor rachel reeves expected tax raids in her first budget scheduled for october. she's widely expected to increase capital gains tax, andifs to increase capital gains tax, and it's after prime minister sir keir starmer launched his misery manifesto, telling reporters that number 10 downing street that those with the broadest shoulders would carry the burden after and then after that, what did he do? winter fuel allowance pensioners. it
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doesn't make any sense. it's not funny at all, is it? but it's just an ironic irony that he's saying that. but the first thing he did was cut the winter fuel allowance for pensioners . so allowance for pensioners. so a lot of people thinking this could be problematic. so for the great british debate this year, i'm asking is labour's misery manifesto scaring off investment? well joining me, broadcaster and journalist danny kelly and also gb news senior political commentator nigel nelson i'm going to start with you.the nelson i'm going to start with you. the broadest shoulders kick things off with the pensioners. why would they have the broadest shoulders. >> well i don't think they do. i mean he was talking about the budget. >> so i mean we can't ignore that just because he hasn't put it in. that wasn't in his manifesto. and that is effectively part of a budget of sorts. >> well, it was it was part of an instant saving. i mean, the issue that, rachel, i mean , at issue that, rachel, i mean, at the moment, i think there's a way around the winter fuel allowance by keeping it. but the reason that by keeping it. yeah, what you do is if you rachel reeves could save money . by
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reeves could save money. by keeping the winter fuel allowance, but then rolling it into . the basic state pension. into. the basic state pension. so you'd basically put the pension up by 200 or £300 that way. what's the point? well the point would be, is that that the poorer pensioners, the difficulty is 2 million pensioners on the margins who don't qualify for pension credit, but only just above the level. they're the ones who are likely to be hit according to age uk. what you do is that they would still get their winter. they would get the money for their winter fuel allowance. wealthier pensioners would have it taken back in tax. at the moment, the winter fuel allowance isn't taxed. it's a straightforward handout. >> you'd think about that , >> you'd think about that, wouldn't you? >> well, i mean the trouble is it doesn't it doesn't raise your instant 1.4 billion that she gets by cancelling it this year. it would be a longer term saving but it was still save money. >> well i helped that they were pushing people into the other pension credit, which would actually then cost them 4 billion. so they won't be saving any money at all. well when it comes to pension credit, that successive governments and the tories did this, they were desperately trying to encourage pensioners to apply for it.
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>> it's worth about 3500 per pensioner , and 800,000 are pensioner, and 800,000 are entitled to it. and don't apply. so it's not as if every government has been trying to get this money out there . so get this money out there. so it's been budgeted for. >> okay, let's get . to the >> okay, let's get. to the budget then. let's talk about the budget. they're going to make people they're going to make people they're going to make the richest people with the broadest shoulders in their view, carry the burden. richard's people going richard's people are going because they're quite clever. they can well are they can navigate. >> are they going? i've seen this report. and the whole thing is i'm sure they're threatening to go. >> a lot them have already. >> a lot of them have already. >> a lot of them have already. >> well, who i'm not in the report. i didn't see a single name i didn't see name mentioned. i didn't see a single mentioned single figure mentioned about the going. what the number who are going. what i saw was a number of law firms who were saying, oh, we've got clients who either are going or are talking about going. >> let's use an example of the landlords. then people are selling. i mean, the landlords are selling. so this is one of the things where they're they're worried about labour's plans with regard to the housing market. so that's something that
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you can actually quantify. landlords are. >> well what what is the what is the quantity of sold. >> well i don't know the exact figures. >> no i think it can be quantified. >> i was speaking to, ricardo blanco yesterday from the national landlords association. so i've been speaking and heanng so i've been speaking and hearing that this is what is happening. >> okay. i think a lot of people are putting warning shots out there to say to rachel reeves, please don't do this, i'm not sure there's any evidence. they're just taking the non—doms as an example. 26,000 non—doms are about to be hit with extra taxes. now, according to warwick university london school of economics, 100 of those, 26,000 are likely to leave because of it. >> this sounds like the that on private schools, which is turning out to be a bit of a disaster. we'll come on to that too, nigel. >> nigel's right in the sense that this article doesn't actually put any meat on the bones. it'sjust actually put any meat on the bones. it's just it's very, sort of general. and people threatening. >> i've always been sceptical whenever i hear about people saying, well, look, this is going to be a drain. >> the wealthiest are going to move abroad. >> don't forget, the wealthiest
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have families here in the united kingdom. lots of roots. their children may go to school. they may be british born and bred. they may not want to go to another part of the world which has which has beneficial tax, implications. they may not want to because it's a balancing act, you know, are they going to uproot. these are incredibly wealthy people. and at what point do you actually put your family life before your bank balance. and they may decide, okay, well, look, they're in they're in here for five years, maybe minimum term, 4 or 5 years. >> if there's an early election, let's see if they're going to go. >> yeah. let's see if the tories get them out in 4 or 5 years time. let's not uproot. >> so this article doesn't give me any detail. it doesn't give me any detail. it doesn't give me any detail. it doesn't give me any numbers. >> and i've always been a little bit like the bma saying all the doctors are going to australia. >> but the point is you don't actually need numbers in detail when you're given some warning like that, because what it can do is the actual the wording of what they've said they're going to hit the ones with the broadest shoulders can create a reaction , so they don't even reaction, so they don't even need to do it. just like the vat on private schools, the moment they announced it, the independent independent schools association announced that loads of people were now taking their
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children out of private schools. that's true. and there were private schools, but they're not doing that either. no, no they aren't. oh they are. no. 20% are massive. they are nigel. >> they will there will be some doing look, i'm on the doing that. but look, i'm on the point i'm making is that just the very announcement of saying that forces people to start fleeing . fleeing. >> and that's what i'm seeing with the labour party. they're coming out with things well, but better to actually let them know beforehand that actually hit them with it suddenly. >> so they're fleeing. >> so they're fleeing. >> if these if these people had wanted to flee, they could have done it. when the tories brought in taxes on the non—doms because the foreign assets aren't taxed in spain, they're not taxed in ireland. they could have gone there and they didn't. these are these are, as danny points out , these are, as danny points out, very wealthy people. they have a high pain threshold when it comes to, i think, to the pain of a budget. >> i'm not so sure. i think you're you're wrong. i think labour have a very bad reputation for taxing people. mrs. thatcher pointed that out, and i suspect one of the reasons why keir couldn't handle the picture, and i suspect a lot of investors are looking at that and thinking, i'm out of here. but listen. in response, a
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treasury spokesperson said the chancellor has been clear that difficult decisions lie ahead on spending, welfare and tax to fix the foundations of our economy and the address and the address. the 22 billion hole in the pubuc the 22 billion hole in the public finances left by the last government. i think it's to address, not the. but there you go.the address, not the. but there you go. the bodies of six hostages coming up, the bodies of six hostages taken from on 7th of october have been recovered. i'll be
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welcome on board. this is gb news. the bodies of six hostages taken by hamas on the 7th of october have been recovered from a tunnel in the rafah area of southern gaza. now, the israeli military have confirmed us president joe biden. he has said that he is devastated and outraged by the news. and he went on to say it is as tragic as it is reprehensible. make no mistake, hamas leaders will pay
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for these crimes. joining me now in the studio is chairman of the national jewish assembly, gary mond. gary mond. so more tragic news about hostages. absolutely. six dead bodies. six people have died in those tunnels. and i was reading that, actually, they probably died quite early on in the conflict. >> no, the news today is that they died in the last few days. >> oh, wow. that they were murdered in cold blood by the hamas terrorists. >> where did you. >> where did you. >> where did you. >> where where was that? it's beenin >> where where was that? it's been in a number of in jerusalem post in particular. >> it's also been referred to in the telegraph and made their memories be for a blessing. it has to be said, it's just absolutely abhorrent. >> it's barbarism. >> it's barbarism. >> this is one reason why i think it's most unlikely they'll ever be a deal done with hamas, in spite of all the pressures coming from joe biden. >> but won't that just continue to exacerbate the situation if no one is prepared to make some sort no one is prepared to make some sonyes. >> yes. >> yes. >> then what is the >> but then what is the objective of the israeli government? the israeli government's is to win government's objective is to win the hamas the war, to destroy hamas completely , and to destroy the completely, and to destroy the other palestinian terror groups as but that a realistic aim?
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>> but is that a realistic aim? hamas, whilst it is a governing body that run the area, they are also an ideology, really, aren't they? >> you can't get rid of an ideology, but what you can do, as we did with nazi germany is get rid of the governing power. and so people are no longer governed by it. i think in the long run, if we're ever going to get peace in the middle east and this is a much bigger position, you've got to get rid of all the terrorist groups that are the palestinian terrorist groups. you've got to get rid of hezbollah. and finally, you've also got to get regime change in iran. >> but then you've got hezbollah. there's another one beginning with h. >> hamas. hezbollah. >> hamas. hezbollah. >> i mean, you've got all these sort of factions, factions that are fighting and warring . in all are fighting and warring. in all parts. hezbollah. that's i mean, what do we do? what how can these how can you possibly slowly but surely, they have to be destroyed. >> and it may take a period of years, but they have to be wiped out. >> but there'll be more death and destruction. i mean, that's what we're looking at eventually. >> then you have to try to improve the situation. once control is gained over gaza by
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responsible organisations, then we have to educate people not to hate jews and israel. >> the thing that concerns me as well is that benjamin netanyahu is obviously getting some flak from his own people in israel because of what is happening in gaza. so what about their the stability of that region? >> benjamin netanyahu is in a very difficult position. the israeli population is very, very split. there's really three groups. there's first, the group who would want to see a deal done with hamas at any cost whatsoever. and these are going to be the people who are going to be the people who are going to be the people who are going to be demonstrating tonight and going on strike over the next day or two. there's a general strike just been announced. and these are people who never supported netanyahu anyway. but now they are absolutely livid that there hasn't been a deal . that there hasn't been a deal. then you've got a second group, much less publicity, but every bit as numerous. and those are people who would never want to do any deal with hamas at all. they believe that we have to win, and some of these are even hostages parents who regrettably feel that there's no solution but to wipe out hamas. and then you've got a third group, and the third group are in the
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middle, and they say , well, we middle, and they say, well, we might want to support a deal, but it depends what the deal is, isn't it? >> but do you notice that the pressure is always on israel for the ceasefire? yes. i never, ever see anyone saying, well , ever see anyone saying, well, let's call out hamas and force hamas to have a ceasefire. >> why is the two tier care has just demonstrated that in the last five minutes, when he has the headline in the telegraph now is sir keir starmer demands that netanyahu signs a ceasefire agreement , that netanyahu signs a ceasefire agreement, demands he has no business to do that . he should business to do that. he should be concentrating on the problems in this country and not getting himself involved with israel. >> well, he also has no power to do that as well. that's true. and no mandate to demand that, because the jury is out on how that should move forward. exactly so it's gary in about 20s. what would you say needs to happen right now ? happen right now? >> well, clearly, i think netanyahu's strategy has to continue. he has got to do his best to win the war. he's also got to see he owes it to the families of the hostages to see if a deal can be done. but it's going to be very, very
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difficult. >> well, gary eamonn, thank you very much. it's good to talk to you. that's gary, mont. he's the chairman of the national jewish assembly. right. stay tuned. next, my monologue or my niggle on operation bring harry in from the cold. would you welcome prince harry back? i'll tell you what i think in my next, but now let's get an update with your weather. >> looks like things are heating up. boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news. >> hello there! welcome to your latest gb news weather forecast from the met office. it stays unsettled over the next 24 hours or so. thunderstorms in the forecast, particularly across central and eastern areas, but the west also seeing some heavy showers. low pressure dominating the weather pattern at the moment. met office warning out through the rest of sunday and through the rest of sunday and through monday as well for these heavy showers. central southern parts seeing some heavy showers pushing northwards through this evening. time into northern england. southern scotland and
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then further showers developing from the south as we head into the early hours, so you may be woken up by some rumbles of thunder, lightning, hail also a risk , some flash flooding risk, some flash flooding possible. a warm, humid night for everyone. temperatures remaining in the mid to high teens, and then an unsettled start to monday. we've got bands of thundery showers in places so looking at scotland first thing in the morning, a cloudy start to the day. outbreaks of showery rain, some heavy downpours possible, particularly in the east. some rumbles of thunder. there could be some disruption to travel first thing. northern ireland seeing showery outbreaks of rain and thunderstorms across northern england as well stretching into central southern parts of england and wales. so wherever you are on monday morning, there could be some local disruption first thing, and it stays unsettled through the day ahead. we see areas of showers, some longer spells of rain, thunderstorms across many parts of the uk, a met office warning out for much of the day
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live on tv, online and. on digital radio. and for the next two hours, me and my panel will be taking on some of the big topics hitting the headlines. right now. this show is all about opinion. it's mine, it's theirs. and of course it's yours. we'll be debating and discussing and at times we will disagree. but no one will be cancelled. so joining me today is broadcaster and journalist danny kelly. and also gb news senior political commentator nigel nelson. coming up, prince harry apparently wants to come home after a string of business disasters. word on the street is that harry wants to return to the uk. lived a life with the royal family. you've had everything handed to you, but you say your life has been hard and now you've written all about it in your new book. where? >> yes, that's . >> yes, that's. right fans. you see, my wife and i are totally like, you should write a book cause your family's like, stupid and then so are like journalists . and then so are like journalists. >> that gets me every time. the world wide privacy tour is over. would you welcome them back? you'll hear the thoughts in . my
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you'll hear the thoughts in. my niggle, which is next. we'll go live then to israel to speak to uri geller, where protests are taking place after the body of six hostages were recovered from gaza, where a polio vaccination procedure is underway and trans person scott nugent will be live to discuss the bma's latest intervention in the castle report. but before we get started, let's get your latest news headlines . news headlines. >> nana. thank you. your top story at 3:00 with me, will hollis, the leader of the scottish national party, is speaking before members on the final day of its conference in edinburgh. let's hear what the scotland's first minister, john swinney, has to say as part of our progressive , modern, left of our progressive, modern, left of centre agenda . centre agenda. >> it was a rather baseless attack, given that the snp government has balanced the budget every single year since two thousand and seven, but we have taken spending decisions and believe you me, i am proud of them. >> we are spending hundreds of millions of pounds to lift children out of poverty through
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the scottish child payment. >> we are putting £26.70 a week directly into the hands of low income families. for each eligible child, a measure described as the most significant intervention in tackling inequality in europe since the 1980s. >> that will bring you more of john swinney over the next hour. now two teenagers have been arrested over the murder of . arrested over the murder of. a 13 year old boy in oldbury, west midlands. police said the teens are being held in connection with the fatal stabbing in lovett avenue earlier this week. they are being questioned in custody. the family of the 13 year old killed are aware of those developments. sir keir starmer has joined world leaders condemning what he's described as the horrific and senseless killing of six hostages in gaza. us president joe biden has also said he is devastated and outraged by the news, while the israeli prime minister insists he won't rest until those
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responsible are caught. meanwhile a pause in fighting has begun in gaza, allowing international aid agencies to launch a mass polio vaccination campaign. over 600,000 children under ten will be treated during breaks in the conflict over the next three days. it follows the first confirmed case of polio in the territory in 25 years, with a ten month old baby now paralysed by the virus. the ceasefire will only last during daylight hours, turning back to the uk now the head of the police watchdog in england and wales claims the criminal justice system is dysfunctional . justice system is dysfunctional. andy cook told the sunday telegraph that too often officers are getting the basics wrong . he's also described the wrong. he's also described the lack of prison places as a nightmare. speaking on the camilla tominey show this morning, shadow home secretary james cleverly said he needs to get. we need to get back to the cornerstone of british policing. >> they need to focus on the crimes that affect people's
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everyday lives. when i was home secretary, i made it absolutely clear they were to pursue all reasonable lines of inquiry. they were to crack down on shoplifting. this idea . there shoplifting. this idea. there was a £200 limit. get rid of that. was a £200 limit. get rid of that . because if you don't crack that. because if you don't crack down on the small crimes, those criminals get more and more severe and then you have a real problem. >> floral tributes have been laid after a man and three children, all aged under four, were found dead in a home in staines. police discovered the bodies on saturday afternoon, with neighbours identifying the family as a young polish household with twins. authorities believe. authorities believe it was an isolated incident and the children's mother is being supported by specialist officers. surrey police has referred itself to the independent office for police conduct due to previous contact with the family . an contact with the family. an absence epidemic. that's how the education secretaries described the number of pupils missing school. bridget phillipson claims too many mums and dads are letting kids skip school for
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holidays, birthdays and even a runny nose. the government's crackdown aims to tackle the growing issue as the new school year begins . growing issue as the new school year begins. oasis fans. oasis are urging fans to be aware of counterfeit and void tickets on the resale market all over the uk, and ireland. dates for their reunion tour have sold out in less than one day, but some fans have been complaining about the process, which saw websites use a dynamic pricing system, meaning that prices would jump under high demand. the met office has extended thunderstorm warnings across a large part of the uk, much of england, wales and now scotland are covered by the alert for today and for tomorrow. forecasters say there's a risk of flooding because of heavy showers and hail . and finally in sports. hail. and finally in sports. great britain's ben pritchard has won the paralympic rowing gold in the pr1 men's single sculls. the welshman charged to victory over the last 500m.
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pritchard's victory is britain's first in the division since tommie gorman gold at the 2008 beijing games. those are the latest gb news headlines. i'm will hollis with more in just half an hour. >> for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone , sign direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . forward slash alerts. >> good afternoon. welcome. it's just coming up to seven minutes after 4:00. i'm nana akua. this is a gb news. we're live on tv, onune is a gb news. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. prince harry apparently wants to return to the uk. i bet he does. the cynic in me thinks perhaps this is about selling even more books. the paperback of his memoir, spare, comes out in a few weeks. he's apparently agreed not to update it, but they must be strapped for cash. after a string of financial disasters .
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after a string of financial disasters. his american dream is well and truly over and frankly, i'm not surprised the netflix deal appears to be crumbling. an american riviera riviera orchard. meghan's brand has hit. should we call it technical problems? did he really think that turning his back on the country that gave him his privilege and dissing his family, the royal family would work in his favour? what planet is he on? prince harry has become a global embarrassment. while spare may well have been one of the fastest selling biographies ever, it came at a cost in my eyes. he lost the very last shreds of credibility and dignity which had been hanging on via weak, thin straws. after a series of missteps , starting with that missteps, starting with that interview with oprah, where someone in the royal family had the allegations of racism thrust upon them, an allegation both he and meghan did not correct until and meghan did not correct until a few years later, after the late queen had died, thereby gaslighting the world and causing untold emotional damage to the mental health of his family . he's supposed to be an
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family. he's supposed to be an advocate for that, for goodness sake . unconscious bias, he sake. unconscious bias, he called it, and blamed the british press for the misrepresentation . everything he misrepresentation. everything he does appears to be either for money or publicity. america is sick of him. >> they're a laughing stock with the royal family you've had everything handed to you, but you say your life has been hard and now you've written all about it. in your new book, where? yes, that's right fans. you see, my wife and i are totally like, you should write a book because your family's like stupid and then so are like journalists . then so are like journalists. >> i never get tired of that. it's hilarious. the other month, harry collected the pat tillman award against the wishes of pat's mother. her brave son was killed by friendly fire after giving up his lucrative sporting career to defend his country and the other month, harry was given the other month, harry was given the award for his work with invictus. he claimed he was collecting the award for the brave veterans. >> i'd like to begin by expressing my deepest gratitude to everyone at the pat tillman foundation, led by marie tillman
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shenton, who i'm so honoured is here tonight. >> i'd also like to acknowledge the tillman family, especially mrs. mary tillman, pat's mother. >> her advocacy for pat's legacy is deeply personal, and one that i respect. the bond between a mother and son is eternal and transcends even the greatest losses . losses. >> yeah, he's now apparently coming. grovelling back, cap in hand. i wonder why it's been termed operation bring harry in from the cold. and according to the daily mail, he's reached out to his old mates to help facilitate. it's not clear whether meghan will be with him if his mission succeeds, but i suspect william will have a few words to say about that one. if the sussexes want to return, harry needs to make a massive apology, bring his kids to meet his father . and same goes for his father. and same goes for meghan. and i can't see that happening though , can you? some happening though, can you? some might say that he wants to genuinely build bridges and seek forgiveness after the hell that
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he and his wife have unleashed on their families. he and his wife have unleashed on their families . he's seen the on their families. he's seen the error in his ways, but i'll believe that when i see it. no, i think this is a ploy to ensure the sales of his spare paperback, which is out in a matter of weeks, in the hope that people will talk about him and make him relevant again. in my view, that ship has sailed. the worldwide privacy tour is oven the worldwide privacy tour is over. the question is, would you welcome him . home? but before we welcome him. home? but before we get stuck into the debate, here's what else is coming up today for the great british debate this hour , i'm asking, debate this hour, i'm asking, are non—crime hate incidents a breach of your human rights? the home secretary will reportedly require police to record more non—crime hate incidents. in a reversal of the changes made by the conservatives to protect free speech and then for world view, we're crossing over to israel to speak to a friend of the show, uri geller. he'll be telling us about the vaccination process happening in gaza, and
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also we'll be talking about the deaths of those six hostages. that's coming up in the next hour as ever. send me your thoughts, post your comments. gbnews.com/yoursay . but first, gbnews.com/yoursay. but first, let's talk operation bring harry in from the cold as apparently as it's underway. that's what the daily mail are reporting. prince harry seeking advice from former aides on how he should return to the country after spending the past four years in a self—imposed exile in california, allegedly growing dissatisfied with advice from american based image experts, of which i think they've had about ten. joining me now is royal broadcaster helena chard helena. welcome to the program. so prince harry. >> good afternoon. >> good afternoon. >> good afternoon. so >> good afternoon. so prince harry apparently operation bring harry apparently operation bring harry in from the cold is it you feel there's any truth to this? >> you know, i'm trying to find out who the trusted former aides are. and who he's been talking to. who? >> i haven't got there yet , but
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>> i haven't got there yet, but it's. i mean, lots of tongues are wagging nana. >> i mean, you know, we heard that he was at the memorial for lord robert fellowes , and lord robert fellowes, and obviously william was there as well. >> and so there's lots of, you know, everyone going into overdrive that was in snettisham, norfolk the other day. >> and he wasn't going to attend, said the people mouthpiece of his and obviously it was if, you know, if it hadnt it was if, you know, if it hadn't have been proven by so many different people , including many different people, including family, friends, i would have actually thought that maybe a lookalike turned up, you know , lookalike turned up, you know, and i absolutely, you know, it still does make me wonder, it was obviously a discreet entrance, etc. but now we have been led to believe that harry has been talking to people from friends from his old life, and it's not that he wants to make a permanent move to the uk, so i
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believe, from what i, from what i can see, you know, from what i've heard, it's more about his reputation, you know, as we know, we've heard that somebody who is absolutely fantastic left his team at the end of last year. and that was all to do with reputation management. and as we know, he needs help. they need help. >> well, he wants to have his cake and eat it. by the sounds of it. i mean obviously no good cake remains uneaten. but you know, he clearly wants to have the luxury of being royal, but i don't think he wants to do the work . work. >> absolutely. >> absolutely. >> i mean, goodness me, he needs help. >> we know that the royal family is his currency. i mean, even his late mother, you know, obviously he's almost usurped her memory and he needs this. he needs this to make money. and things are not going his way. things are not necessarily going their way, >> is this about initiating a return to the royal family? >> who knows? we'll wait and see, does he want to spend more time in the uk? we've been to
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led believe he doesn't want to. >> yet he does, >> yet he does, >> and we have this court case, that's going ahead. >> and of course, he raced in for lord robert fellowes. >> memorial service. >> memorial service. >> so there's lots of ambiguous behaviour, and he is going to be you know, in new york, we call it the silly season, don't we? and we're also looking there's lots of different stories that are coming out. but he's he needs to sell stuff. he's going to be in new york, and it's, it's you know, we've got to remember the enormous amount of hurt and offence. i mean, prince william absolutely reeling. poor princess catherine. you know, spare. but coming out at the most awful time, and you've got the netflix, series. i mean, it's absolutely. this is a rehabilitation strategy , and. rehabilitation strategy, and. >> well, there's still i mean, look, he's still he's still you know, i mean, they're still doing these faux royal tours as well, which is just unspeakable.
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helena chard. thank you very much. really good to talk to you. that's helena chard he's a royal broadcaster. thank you. right let's move to southport now. southport pleasureland, along with the local branch of the royal british legion, is hosting a southport together music and entertainment day and it's aiming to raise £1 million for the charity in the wake of the fatal stabbings in southport, which shocked the country. well gb news, north west of england reporter sophie reaperis west of england reporter sophie reaper is there and joins us now. sophie, last time we saw you, you were on some giant caterpillar going around. where are you now? still at the theme park . park. >> i am indeed nana. i've got my feet firmly on the ground in this hour, though we thought we'd keep it a little bit calmer as i my stomach recovers from those lives on that roller coaster . but those lives on that roller coaster. but the words today they have been joy. they've been community, they've been support. and that is exactly what we have seen. we've seen crowds pouring in to southport , pleasureland in to southport, pleasureland all day today as they as they prove that despite that horrific act, five weeks ago, that they are not going to let that impact them. they are still going to
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bnng them. they are still going to bring their children to things. they're still going to go about their lives as they would like to. now, this hour, we're here at the hook, a duck stand. so i guess i'm going to have to give it a go, of course, because that's again, that's what this is all about . that's again, that's what this is all about. it's about coming out and just people just, i suppose, just enjoying themselves and now let's see if i. 0h, themselves and now let's see if i. oh, there you go. you can tell that's not my first time doing that. there you go. nana. now whilst i collect my prize, we spoke earlier to some people who'd come down today, so let's hear what they had to tell me. >> the support, the fundraising event. and also we was in the area we were staying at riverside, so it was an ideal opportunity to support and see what what's going on, just to support the local community. just everyone's got two, aren't we? well, the kids love the fur, so we like to go each summer. and we picked today because we knew it was a fundraiser for alder hey and other charities in the area, so it just seemed like the area, so it just seemed like the perfect day to come. i heard it was a fundraiser for the local hospitals and the air ambulance, so that was the primary reason for coming in and to give the kids a good day out.
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>> well, the weather has taken a turn for the worse now here in southport, but it hasn't dampened anyone's spirits. there are still lots and lots of people here enjoying everything that southport pleasureland has to offer. they're taking it all in. the atmosphere is fabulous and people are saying that they're not going to let that horrific act break their community spirit here in southport . instead, they're southport. instead, they're going to come together, they're going to come together, they're going to come together, they're going to show support for those families who went through that tragedy, and they're just going to get back to the way life should be here at this beautiful seaside town. >> sophie reaper thank you very much. although i think you cheated, i think there's some sort of string attached to the hook to get that duck. thank you very much, sophie. to good talk to you. well, right . welcome to you. well, right. welcome aboard. if you've just tuned in 17 minutes after 4:00, you're with me. i'm nana akua this is gb news. we are live on tv, online, and on digital radio. coming up, it's time for the great british debate this hour. and i'm asking, are non—crime hate incidents a breach of your
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human rights home secretary will require police to record more non—crime hate incidents. in a reversal of changes made by the conservatives. stay tuned. that is
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good afternoon. 21 minutes after 4:00 and it's time for the great british debate. this hour. i'm asking our non—crime hate incidents. a breach of your human rights. the home secretary will require police to record more non—crime hate incidents in a reversal of the changes made by the conservatives, which the aim for them was to protect freedom of speech. now this would reverse the changes introduced last year by the former home secretary, suella braverman, which issued new guidance to the police that downgraded the duty to monitor non—criminal hate incidents. now toby young, director of the free speech union, has written to the home secretary of threatening home secretary of threatening home secretary of threatening home secretary yvette cooper with legal action. so for the great british debate, this hour, i'm asking our non—crime hate incidents in breach of your human rights. well, joining me
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now is broadcaster and lawyer andrew eborn. andrew it's lovely to be with you. >> i think. >> i think. >> therefore i am arrested, as descartes would say in the 20th century britain. >> it's crazy, isn't it? >> freedom of speech is now on life support here, and we've had in the last week alone we've had elon musk being threatened. he's got he's now out of brazil with x. we've had the founder of telegram basically being arrested and he's been charged in france. we're not quite sure the circumstances why he was there, whether macron invited him to the olympics or whatever. but he's been arrested and under several charges, and we've had all sorts of people who've been speaking out are basically being shut down. so it has to be freedom of thought. >> it has to be freedom of expression. >> it's one of our fundamental rights. under the human rights act of 1998, article ten gives you the right to express your opinion and also to air that publicly. the only exceptions to that, and this is where they're going to wriggle, is if there's a threat to national security . a threat to national security. so that's probably what they're going to start relying on on these sort of bases.
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>> but it's a really, really worrying time. >> so non—crime hate incidents. basically somebody i say something that somebody doesn't like. so probably one of my monologues, then somebody can then inform the police that i've upset them in some way. and then that goes on my record. so i now have a criminal record because somebody else who i've never met, who's never met me, has heard something that upset or hurt my feelings. and then once that's done, then if i go for a certain job or i go for my dbs check, which i do regularly because i go and talk in schools , because i go and talk in schools, somebody could pull that up and 90, somebody could pull that up and go, well, you did something that had hurting feelings, and so now you can't have that job that has got to be a breach of my human rights. >> it's absolutely. >> it's absolutely. >> article ten it's a fundamental right to protect your freedom of speech and so on and so forth. and this is what's really worrying, because it's happening around the world, as i say, in brazil, in france , in say, in brazil, in france, in various other countries in america. you know, zuckerberg, he came out in the last few days and said the pressure that he was put under by the biden administration, first of all, about covid and even jokes. he was told to suppress them . the was told to suppress them. the other thing that he was saying about the hunter biden laptop
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and he said he couldn't speak about that because they were telling him to . not and what he telling him to. not and what he did, he had to fact check. >> and he sort of he turned around and said he regretted that because the reality is you're working on that sort of bafis you're working on that sort of basis because it just seems a little bit silly, doesn't it, that somebody else can decide that somebody else can decide that they are going to deliberately. >> i mean, look, if somebody doesn't like me, this is going to be the easiest thing for them to be the easiest thing for them to do, isn't it? it is. they don't like me. >> what i love is they they can capture this moment. this is me sweating at the death of freedom of speech. has got to be good, i love it. >> beautifully timed. >> beautifully timed. >> the reality is that you're right. >> and this is so elon musk. so his father, errol, who's a brilliant guy , he's a regular on brilliant guy, he's a regular on my show. i do a daily show, as you know, talking about freedom of speech and all sorts of things. >> musk's father, he's a regular on my show, the muckrakers with andrew eborn. >> you can have a look. i'll get him on. i'll bring him here. >> he's coming on. >> he's coming on. >> so every week errol comes on and we unpack what he's saying with with elon. >> it's the muckrakers. we've done 75 episodes daily show with andrew, and that's me occasionally. >> and the reality is this is
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that he's really worried. you've had the arrest of the ceo of telegram. who's next? you know, elon is going to travel on these sort of bases, but it's absurd. but it's absolutely crazy. >> i don't understand, it's absurd . right. i should be absurd. right. i should be allowed to have my opinion. yes, i should be allowed to post my opinion on on x or yes. and somebody else should be allowed to do that. i don't think that you should be abusing people in an unnecessary manner, and i get that all the time. but i'm able to just ignore it because i just think people are that way. the problem i have with the non—crime hate incident is that somebody without your knowledge can say something that might not even be true, and then say that this is now against you on your record. that can't be allowed . record. that can't be allowed. >> yes. >> yes. >> and another hero of ours is jk rowling, who be coming on the show by show. i'll bring her along to see you as well. >> really? all these things never let the truth stand in the way of a good story. that's what i say. the reality. >> however, do you remember how brilliant she was when they introduced the scottish hate laws and the police at that stage they said, we will investigate every single crime. >> do you remember that?
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>> do you remember that? >> and what then happened is they said, well, hang on, what about all these robberies and the thefts and the breaking in the thefts and the breaking in the car and all the crimes that you should be investigated? and she turned around and said, well, i'm going to say lots of things. >> i'm going to call this out. i'm going to call that out, come and arrest me first, and then they turn down the narrative on that sort basis. that sort of basis. >> did. >> they did. >> they did. >> and humza yousaf, who >> and then humza yousaf, who became the number one person from his own legislation to be potentially well under fire, of course, because he had made that that scottish speech where everyone is white and of course they are 96% white country, what would you expect ? would you expect? >> i know it is absolutely crazy, but i'll tell you what, what's happening under starmageddon is we are having the erosion of free speech, and there was one brilliant lawyer that they had about in education, freedom of speech, in education. >> and it was actually passed into law last year and it got royal assent and everything but the labour government have turned round and said, we're going to put the halts on that. >> we're not going to put it in. we're not going to enforce it because it might upset a few people. >> now that's just scandalous. >> now that's just scandalous. >> and i talked to the alumni for free speech. basically, these people who are talking
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about freedom of speech in education, you need to be surrounded with alternative views . and that's the sort of views. and that's the sort of key, sort of essence of all of this isn't it? >> well, it absolutely is. i mean, you know , and i, i don't mean, you know, and i, i don't understand why people are allowing this, though, quietly. because everyone's scared now. because everyone's scared now. because you say something, they'll come for you individually, but they'll pick the individuals that they're going to come for. so you might be one of the unlucky ones. i'm sure they'll be coming for me at some point , sure they'll be coming for me at some point, but i'm, you know, i'm not going to change the way i'm not going to change the way i am and i'm going to stay as i am because i don't agree with the non—crime hate incident. and i think that actually the british public should be able to say that this is a breach of their human rights. you can't just make up something, you can make up stuff. i've had people make up stuff. i've had people make up stuff about me complain about me. it's not even true. >> yeah, no. well, george orwell said, what are the checks and balances to make sure that people aren't talking rubbish? >> okay, well, the checks and balances are this. >> we should . absolutely. i >> we should. absolutely. i think everybody would talk about the fundamental rights in law. so don't don't have defamation. i mean that's clear. >> don't incite people to violence and hatred. >> genuine hatred because that's
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wrong. >> that's obvious. but those things exist anyway. that exists. >> and that's my point. >> and that's my point. >> because if you turn up the narrative on that and clarify that, i mean, freedom of speech, george orwell famously said, freedom of speech is the right to tell people what they don't want to hear. >> you've got to be able to say that there's a criminal case at the moment in in france again, you remember about the olympics and the boxing and the allegations or suggestions that the person, the winner of the women's boxing khalife there, we go. it wasn't y chromosomes. >> exactly. and the whole thing is a male chromosome. >> so what's happened is now that it's been reported to the french authorities and they're talking about instigating criminal proceedings against my mate ellen, as well as donald trump and my other mate and the various other people. >> it is crazy. we have to be able to talk this. >> and the safeguard nana is this that we have to be able to call it out. and that's the great thing about your program. we can do that. >> why do you think, >> well, why do you think, though, gone down though, that we've gone down this why what is the thing this path? why what is the thing thatis this path? why what is the thing that is causing this? because it's literally come from i feel it's literally come from i feel it's come from nowhere. yeah. >> well, i'll tell you where
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it's come from. >> and this is a couple of things you had the horrendous situation about southport, the murder of those three little girls, the spread of misinformation and disinformation, which came out of a channel from it, was actually an american channel. >> i've looked into this channel three now. it's called they only have about 3000 followers, but they originally suggested it was somebody else. that misinformation spread and it might have caused riots and things like that. >> but but listen , somebody >> but but listen, somebody could hear something that is wrong but doesn't mean necessarily that you're going to act on it. so those who act on information without checking the information, yes, they it is you to blame the person that's sending the information. yes, you can tell them off for sending it , you can tell them off for sending it, but they did not cause the thing they may have said something that may have made people think something. but if that's the case, then, well, the bbc, they made the mistake about the bomb that they said that was coming from israel, which it wasn't . it was actually which it wasn't. it was actually a backfiring. hamas bomb that caused loads of loads of problems internationally. i think it was joe biden's administration that refused to meet with netanyahu after it. so
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where where do we go with this? because you can even the so—called best people are getting this wrong. yeah. no, you're absolutely right. >> and we have to what we have to do, and we have a responsibility in the media as well, is not just to rush in and report stories, because it's not shouldn't be first. it's not about accuracy. they used to say it's absolutely it has to be about accuracy because misrepresentation, we're living in a polluted information age . in a polluted information age. and they used to say, if you don't read the newspapers, you're ill informed and if you do read them, you're misinformed. that's never been truer. >> well, i just don't think that you literally cannot mitigate fully against people making mistakes given with small bits of information. but if you are going to do that, you have to do it with everything. and that, i think is impossible. andrew, thank you very much. pleasure to see you . well, listen, before see you. well, listen, before the break, we were discussing the break, we were discussing the return of prince harry. would you welcome him back? let's see what you've been saying. david says operation bnng saying. david says operation bring harry back in from the cold. we'd be bringing 10 million pensioners in from the cold before we ever think of doing it. to the privileged, spoilt , juvenile child. don't spoilt, juvenile child. don't mince your words, dan says harry made his american bed. he should
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have to lie in it. henry has beenin have to lie in it. henry has been in touch with this one. harry's return will be purely dnven harry's return will be purely driven by a financial connection to the royal family. they've noficed to the royal family. they've noticed that they need to remain relevant. and sylvia says nana, you're right. no way will prince harry want to come back. it's all about getting publicity for his book . i'm all about getting publicity for his book. i'm nosy and all about getting publicity for his book . i'm nosy and decided his book. i'm nosy and decided to buy the book on audio. got to chapter four. it's a great book for insomniacs. i've got to about five minutes then fell asleep. it's atrocious. same here. i didn't buy it. thankfully. i got a version sent to me and it was on audio as well and it sent me to sleep as well. i just couldn't be bothered , literally couldn't be bothered, literally couldn't be bothered. so if you're an insomniac, there you go. but 31 minutes after 4:00, you're with me. i'm nana akua . this is a gb me. i'm nana akua. this is a gb news. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. coming up worldview. i'll be taking you to israel, where i'll be getting the latest from a friend of the show, uri geller, who's there live. but first, let's get your latest news headlines with will hollis .
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hollis. >> good afternoon. the leader of the scottish national party has been speaking before members on the final day of its conference in edinburgh. the keynote speech by scotland's first minister, john swinney , who took over from john swinney, who took over from the party's former leader humza yousaf in may, highlighted child poverty as a priority. plus, a ceasefire in gaza . ceasefire in gaza. >> humza was one of the first and remains a leading voice, demanding an immediate ceasefire and the return safely of all hostages in gaza. that the message from this conference be heard loud and clear. the killing of innocent men, women and children must end and it must end now . must end now. >> meanwhile, israel's prime minister says he won't rest until those responsible for killing six hostages in gaza are caught. the bodies were recovered from underground tunnels near rafah, but the families of those of some of those still being held are
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calling for protest against benjamin netanyahu's leadership . benjamin netanyahu's leadership. two teenagers have been arrested over the murder of a 13 year old boy in oldbury, west midlands. police said the teens are being held in connection with the fatal stabbing in lovett avenue earlier this week , and they're earlier this week, and they're being questioned in custody. the family of the 13 year old killed are aware of those developments. the education secretary has accused parents who let their children skip school of wrecking their futures ahead of the new school term. bridget phillipson warned there's an absence epidemic . surrey police have epidemic. surrey police have referred themselves to the watchdog after the bodies of three children and a man were found in a house in staines. officers say they'd had previous contact with the family. floral tributes have been left outside of the home, while neighbours say they believe a young family with twins lived there. a pilot has died after a small aircraft crashed into an industrial estate in chesterfield . roads
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estate in chesterfield. roads around the area are closed and will remain shut, while an investigation continues. people are being asked to avoid the scene. the met office has extended thunderstorm warnings across a large part of the uk. much of england , wales and much of england, wales and scotland is now covered by the alert for today for and tomorrow. forecasters say there's a risk of flooding because of heavy showers and hail and finally, great britain's ben pritchard has won paralympic rowing gold in the pr one, pr one men's single sculls. the welshman charged to victory over the last 500m. pritchard's victory is britain's first since 2008. in beijing. those are the latest gb news headlines. i'm will hollis and there's more in 30 minutes for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone , sign up to news smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com >> forward slash
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>> 38 minutes after 4:00 this is gb news. we are britain's news channel. don't forget as well you can download the gb news app. it's totally free but you can watch all the programmes live. i'm nana akua it's time now for the great british debate this hour and i'm asking our non—crime hate incidents a breach of your human rights. the home secretary will require police to record more non—crime hate criminal incidents. in a reversal of the changes made by the conservative party. now, this would, of course, be introduced. the changes that they had last year by the former home secretary, suella braverman, which issued new guidance that to police to downgrade these incidents. now toby young, director of the free speech union, has written to the home secretary , yvette cooper,
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home secretary, yvette cooper, with saying that he may pursue legal action over the great british debate this i'm asking our non—crime hate incidents a breach of human rights. well, joining me now, nigel nelson and also danny kelly. danny kelly, i'll start with you. >> there is such a clue in the title . non—crime hate incidents. title. non—crime hate incidents. the old bill only get involved when there's the potentiality for crime, or whether there's actual crime. what is the definition of hate? one man's hate is another man's bit of banter . another man's banter is banter. another man's banter is another man's bit of hate. how the hell are the police supposed to police the streets? look, what's just happened in the last week or so at the carnival in london. chaos, carnage. >> two people, two people murdered. >> two people killed. what about in the midlands, where there is also massive problems with knife crime and gun crime and burglaries and robberies and street crime. and you've got the plod sitting at a desk looking to be offended on someone else's behalf. it's non—crime now. >> yvette cooper i think is saying or she's suggesting nigel
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will correct me is that there is potential for these non—crime hate tweets to actually develop into something more serious, so it's almost a case of nipping it in the bud . in the bud. >> but i'm not on social media like minority report, though . like minority report, though. >> it's a non—crime. listen, it depends on what as you said, where the line is for your non—crime. >> that's right . exactly. >> that's right. exactly. i mean, what we're talking about here is this would be an incident which is hostile or involves prejudice towards a certain group of people or another person. now, take a simple example. i mean , when simple example. i mean, when danny was talking about why a police involved say, for instance , you're in the instance, you're in the workplace and you decide you don't want to sit next to somebody who happens to be a different colour from you, or disabled or trans or something like that, and that person, then complains to the police. they then have a duty to investigate. they turn up and they see it doesn't meet the threshold for crime. >> they've already wasted their
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time coming to the office to check, but they have to. >> they have to have to go there because a complaint has been made. so they have to actually investigate that complaint. so they they go there. >> but nigel, they don't even come to a burglary. i think that's a bad example. you get your house burgled and then you think they're going to come. they're not there to say , oh, they're not there to say, oh, take some pictures. are they still there? no, the people are still there? no, the people are still there? no, the people are still there . take some pictures. still there. take some pictures. here's your insurance number. contact your insurance company. they don't even show up for burglary. well, they should do. how on earth. let's be realistic about this. we have. the police have to be able to decide what to be able to prioritise. is this. and also the other side of this. and also the other side of this , nigel, who is going to this, nigel, who is going to check to do the safeguarding that that hate incident reported is actually a real thing. >> and that's the point i'm making, because it may well be that that the person makes a complaint, but you don't even know about the complaint. >> well, you wouldn't know until the police show up at your door. >> well, that's right, i mean, but that would imply in a sense that apply to any crime. >> no, no, no, because you'd know you'd committed a crime if you committed a crime. >> yeah, but the point i'm
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making is that once you have a look at that complaint, it may be the person has got a perfectly reasonable excuse and say, i'm sorry, but the person next to me has got really bad beer. next to me has got really bad beer . it's got nothing to do beer. it's got nothing to do with the fact they're disabled or they're of different race, andifs or they're of different race, and it's therefore not recorded. >> what a waste of time. nigel, you've literally just pointed out what i think. that's a bad example, but that is an example. >> but it's an example of what they would do that is that is thatis they would do that is that is that is an example of what they would they would intervene on. >> you see this is the point. you say that's a bad example, thatis you say that's a bad example, that is the example of the sort of things that people are going to be calling the police for. >> yeah, i think that's more of an hr issue initially. well, of course you're going to go to hr to say, nigel doesn't want to sit next to. you're absolutely right. >> that's what should happen. hr should actually come in on the thing and it's not going to go to the nun. >> it's not going to go to the police. >> i don't like nigel nana i am i'm going to get a non—crime hate on him. >> i'm going to the police . >> i'm going to the police. that's ridiculous. that is how ridiculous it is. but that is how pathetic it could be. somebody could be saying, i don't want to sit next to that person. they've got bad breath and they've done this, that and the other. to me, supposedly it's offending me. >> but that wouldn't be that
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wouldn't be that wouldn't come under the definition and therefore wouldn't be recorded. >> but you've wasted the police's time. >> well, it might be recorded. >> well, it might be recorded. >> how do you know what the whole idea of this is to build up some sort of database. so what you then know is if you've got problems of social, of social tension in a certain area or whether an individual is likely to on and commit a likely to go on and commit a proper hate crime. >> oh, listen, i've got to find out what the viewers think of that because the show is nothing without them. let's welcome our great british voices, their opportunity to be on the show and tell us what they think about the topics we're discussing. dan. brian, he's first. he's there in hull. dan. brian. more power non—crime hate incidents. what is your view ? incidents. what is your view? >> i feel this is part of a bigger agenda that was written about by rishi sunak a couple of years ago in the telegraph, where he wants to introduce a central bank, digital currency so that they can control our money and monitor what we spend, where and when. also, they want to bring in digital id. this is just another control method. >> they now want to control what
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we think and what we say. and like you said , somebody like you said, somebody somewhere will decide whether it's a hate crime or not. but it's a hate crime or not. but it's absolutely subjective . it's absolutely subjective. >> it's ludicrous. >> it's ludicrous. >> if the person doesn't like you, the person who makes the final decision decides they don't like you. who's going to police that person? alan cook, what is your view on this? i >> well, crime is actually defined and prescribed in case law and statute. everything else comes under the banner of non crime . so everything else non crime. so everything else non crime. so everything else non crime is huge. >> it's the rest of world. so if non—crime should be investigated it should be by the non police. so if cooper wants to cost out find a funding for and try and get it voted through parliament to create a non police unit then then good luck to her. >> but at the moment when crime is on the rise, it's not being deau is on the rise, it's not being dealt with. >> the whole legal system is under pressure, overstretched and very poorly mismanaged. so this is basically rearranging deck chairs. but with malice.
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>> so it's stopping access to justice for real crimes. it really just smacks of let's just not investigate real crime and let's find something that we can do. and that sounds like that's sort of the easy way out. dan bnanin sort of the easy way out. dan brian in hull and also alan cook in london, thank you very much. well, in a statement, the home office said it is vital that the police can capture data relating to non—crime hate incidents when it is proportionate and necessary to do so to help prevent serious crimes which may later occur. we will carefully consider how best to protect individuals and communities from hate, whilst also balancing the fundamental right to free speech and ensuring the police can spend their time dealing with the issues that matter most to our communities. the issues that matter most to our communities . all right. our communities. all right. well, you're with me. i'm nana. akua. this is gb news. we're live on tv , online and on live on tv, online and on digital radio. coming up, my great british debate i'm asking, are timetables still relevant for teaching? unions are at it again, this time telling the
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and good afternoon. 49 minutes after 4:00. this is gb news. i'm nana akua and it's time now for worldview. let's cross over. live to israel. six bodies of six hostages have been taken by hamas on 7th of october. they have been recovered from a tunnelin have been recovered from a tunnel in rafah in gaza, in southern gaza, the israeli military has confirmed this, and us president joe biden has said that he is devastated and outraged by the news, going on to say that it is as tragic as it is reprehensible. make no mistake, hamas leaders will pay for these crimes. well, joining me live from tel aviv is uri geller. uri, what's on your mind? >> yes. hi, nana. >> yes. hi, nana. >> it's exactly what you said. it's a terribly sad, sad day in
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israel because, you know, we have this very tragic news, like you said, that six hostages have been killed in gaza . been killed in gaza. >> hamas brutally murdered them in a tunnel. and that was just before our soldiers got there. look, i have to show you something. see this? see this? nana. did this. i wear all the time to protect myself and others around me. probably most others around me. probably most other israeli civilians do too. unfortunately, it is a way of life here, here in israel, because we are constantly living with terrorist attacks in the uk. you do not hear about these attacks only this morning, two israeli men and a woman were killed in their car by palestinian terrorists. here is another shocking example. look, i often go to a place called gush etzion. this is gush etzion. it's about ten miles south of jerusalem because i
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have some of my belongings in storage. there well, at that exact spot , just two nights ago, exact spot, just two nights ago, there was a terrorist attack. a car exploded, and the driver who had got out attacked two people before he was killed. now, at about the same time , another about the same time, another terrorist just just another terrorist just just another terror attack nearby. a terrorist ran someone over in his car before he too, was killed. look, i'm going to show you in a moment something, much easier to here. but generally, you have to understand , nana, you have to understand, nana, that the people attacking us are not doing it because they want peace. not doing it because they want peace . they're doing it because peace. they're doing it because they want to annihilate israel and murder jews . but look, and murderjews. but look, listen, i'm going to end on something much more light—hearted. as you know , i'm light—hearted. as you know, i'm speaking to you from my museum , speaking to you from my museum, where i have antiquities as far back as the egyptian pharaohs.
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look behind me. this one is from ramses the second. believe it or not, these pieces of amazing hieroglyphics are about 3200 years old. well, this week at a museum in haifa, it's called the acas museum. there was a shocking incident. a four year old israeli boy who was visiting with his family knocked over a priceless 3000 year old vase and smashed it to pieces. unbelievable. can you imagine the shock of his mother? i mean, how do you pay for damages like that ? but the story how do you pay for damages like that? but the story has a happy ending. the museum accepted that it was an accident and they are piecing the vase back together again. and they also invited the boy and his family back for a special visit. now, listen to me . special visit. now, listen to me. this is a good lesson for everyone. this is . please absorb everyone. this is. please absorb this. if anything of this nature
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happens to you from something bad, always something positive happens. so. nana, this is all i have to tell you. from israel, from the holy land. touch the palm of my hand. i'm sending you positive energy. think of the word peace, peace, peace, peace on this earth. i love you all. >> love you all too. thank you very much. uri geller. that's a brilliant uri geller. those are his thoughts on what's happening . his thoughts on what's happening. he's also outlined some of the things that we don't seem to cover here or hear about, that is going on in israel. cover here or hear about, that is going on in israel . so if is going on in israel. so if you've just joined me, welcome. i'm nana akua. this is gb news. we are live on tv , online and on we are live on tv, online and on digital radio, coming up in the next hour. my outside guest, transgender man scott nugent. now he was a successful business sales executive named kelly king a top performer who earned various awards and recognition. however at the age of 42, he made the difficult decision to transition to a transgender man. you will not want to miss his
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story. it is quite incredible. we'll also be covering the bma and the guidelines with regard to what is happening with the cass report. you will not want to miss that. do not go anywhere. this is gb news. we are live on tv, online and on digital radio. download the gb news app, watch everything for free or why not stream the show on youtube? let's get an update with your weather. >> it looks like things are heating up boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news . of weather on gb news. >> hello there! welcome to our latest gb news weather forecast from the met office. it stays unsettled over the next 24 hours or so. thunderstorms in the forecast , particularly across forecast, particularly across central and eastern areas, but the west also seeing some heavy showers, low pressure dominating the weather pattern at the moment. the met office warning out through the rest of sunday and through monday as well for these heavy showers. central, southern parts seeing some heavy showers pushing northwards through this evening time into
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could see 30 to 50mm in places could see 30 to 50mm in places could lead to some flash flooding. temperatures generally near average for most in any brightness . temperatures brightness. temperatures reaching around 25 celsius towards the southeast into the evening time . further evening time. further thunderstorms rumble on to end the day . brighter skies trying the day. brighter skies trying to follow in from the far west before dusk and then showers overnight. it remains unsettled for the week ahead. temperatures generally near average in the north, perhaps a little above in the south. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news
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>> well . >> well. >> well. >> hello. good afternoon and welcome. this is a gb news. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua and for the next hour , me and my for the next hour, me and my panel will be taking on some of the big topics hitting the
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headlines. right now. this show is all about opinion. it's mine, it's theirs. and of course it's yours. we'll be debating, discussing and at times we will disagree , but no one will be disagree, but no one will be cancelled. joining me today is broadcaster and journalist danny kelly and also gb news senior political commentator nigel nelson. what are you looking at, nigel? coming up, is robert jenrick the person to lead a new conservative party? we'll hear from him and former conservative mp michael fabricant this hour. then for the great british debate this hour, i'm asking our times tables irrelevant. the teaching unions are at it again, this time telling the government the timetable tests need to be scrapped in primary schools to prevent pupils from experiencing high levels of anxiety. plus, in the interview , trans person the interview, trans person scott nugent will be live to discuss the bma's latest intervention into the cass report. but before we get started, let's get your latest news with will hollis .
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news with will hollis. >> nana. thank you. your top story at 5:00. dramatic footage of a gun battle between israeli soldiers and palestinian gunmen. now, as the idf continues raids in the west bank. the footage viewers can see on screen here, and the sounds you can hear as well. are filmed in hebron , well. are filmed in hebron, where a major israeli operation is entering its fifth day. the idf say they killed a suspected palestinian attacker who carried out an assault near the area in previous days. this all comes as sir keir starmer joins world leaders condemning what he's described as the horrific killing, horrific and senseless killing, horrific and senseless killing of excuse me, six hostages in gaza. us president joe biden also said he's devastated and outraged by the news, while the israeli prime minister insists he won't rest until those people responsible are caught . meanwhile, a until those people responsible
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are caught. meanwhile, a pause in fighting has begun in gaza, allowing international aid agencies to launch a mass polio vaccination campaign. over 600,000 children under ten will be treated during a break in the conflict over the next three days. it follows the first confirmed case of polio in the territory in 25 years, with a ten month old baby now paralysed by the virus. the ceasefire will only last during daylight hours. the leader of the scottish national party has been speaking before members on the final day of the conference in edinburgh. the keynote speech by scotland's first minister, john swinney, who took over the party from humza yousaf in may, highlighted child poverty as a priority. plus, a ceasefire in gaza . plus, a ceasefire in gaza. >> hamza was one of the first and remains a leading voice, demanding an immediate ceasefire and the return safely of all hostages in gaza. but the
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message from this conference be heard loud and clear the killing of innocent men, women and children must end, and it must end now . end now. >> two teenagers have been arrested over the murder of a 13 year old boy in oldbury, west midlands. police said the teens are being held in connection with the fatal stabbing in lovett avenue earlier this week. they're being questioned in custody. the family of the 13 year old killed are aware of the developments. the head of the police watchdog in england and wales claims the criminal justice system is dysfunctional. andy cook told the sunday telegraph that too often officers are getting the basics wrong. he's also described the lack of prison places as a nightmare. speaking on the camilla tominey show this morning , shadow home secretary morning, shadow home secretary james cleverly said we need to get back to the cornerstone of
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british policing. >> they need to focus on the crimes that affect people's everyday lives. when i was home secretary, i made it absolutely clear they were to pursue all reasonable lines of enquiry. they were to crack down on shoplifting. this idea there was a £200 limit. get rid of that because if you don't crack down on the small crimes, those criminals get more and more severe. and then you have a real problem . problem. >> floral tributes have been laid after a man and three children, all under the age of four, were found dead in a home in staines. police discovered the bodies on saturday afternoon with neighbours identifying the family as a young polish household with twins. authorities believe it was an isolated incident and the children's mother is being supported by specialist officers. surrey police has referred the case to the independent office for police conduct due to the previous police contact with the family. oasis are urging fans to be wary of counterfeit and void tickets on the resale market. all of the
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uk and ireland dates sold out yesterday, but some fans have been complaining about the process, which saw websites use a dynamic pricing system. that means that in high demand, the sites can increase their prices. the met office has extended thunderstorm warnings across a large part of the uk, much of england, wales and scotland now are now covered by the alert for today and for tomorrow. forecasters say there is a risk of flooding because of heavy showers and hail and finally in sport. great britain's ben pritchard has won paralympic rowing gold in the pr1 men's single sculls. the welshman charged to victory over the last 500m. pritchard's victory is the first since the division and the first since the division and the first in the division since gold in 2008, in beijing. that's all we've got for you now. we will see you in an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your
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smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . slash alerts. >> thank you. will, this is gb news. i'm nana akua. we're live on tv , online and on digital on tv, online and on digital radio. and for the next hour me and my panel will be taking on some of the big topics hitting the headlines . right now. this the headlines. right now. this show is all about opinion. it's mine. it's yours, and of course it's theirs. we'll be debating and discussing and at times we will disagree, but no one will be cancelled. so joining me today, broadcaster and journalist danny kelly and also gb news senior political commentator nigel nelson, still to come in the interview, founder of stray voices, scott nugent, a transgender man who has suffered from numerous medical complications since his transition and now uses his time to advocate against it, will be joining us live then for the great british debate this year. i'm asking our times tables still relevant? this comes after teaching unions are demanding
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ministers to scrap them to reduce pupils anxiety. as ever. some of your thoughts. post your comments gbnews.com/yoursay . so comments gbnews.com/yoursay. so i couldn't resist showing you this again. seven minutes after 5:00 southport pleasureland , 5:00 southport pleasureland, along with the local branch of the royal british legion, is hosting a southport together music and entertainment day and it aims to raise £1 million for the charity in the wake of the fatal stabbings in southport, which shocked the country. well, we went live to the pleasureland earlier with our very own sophie reaper. earlier with our very own sophie reaper . ifi earlier with our very own sophie reaper. if! what are you doing? you're on the edge of something. what the hell is it? are you. >> we're currently on a roller coaster. nana. we're actually just about to go down the big moment. it's time for a picture. oh it's a ladybird . and the oh it's a ladybird. and the reason we're on it? it's a caterpillar. the reason we're on this roller coaster is because
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this roller coaster is because this community here in southport has gone through one of the biggest tragedies in the past few weeks. but what today is all aboutis few weeks. but what today is all about is that community coming together once again and just feeling joy and happiness once more . that's what the people more. that's what the people here today have been telling me, is that although it's been incredibly tragic and heartbreaking that they want to come along, they want to bring their children and they want to prove to them that they can still go out and have fun . they still go out and have fun. they can still go out and be safe. and that is what today is all about. of course, it's also about. of course, it's also about raising that £1 million. here we go again. about raising that £1 million. here we go again . woo it's that here we go again. woo it's that one. it always gets me that one. but it's about raising that money as well for those hospitals. and for the north west air ambulance service who were some of the first responders on that tragic day five weeks ago. so if you're watching, this is a brilliant cause for those charities. people have come along , they're people have come along, they're enjoying the foods, they're
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enjoying the foods, they're enjoying the foods, they're enjoying the games. they're certainly enjoying the rides. i can see lots of happy faces on this ride here behind me today. people have come. they're just coming together as a community and saying they're not going to let this tragedy bring their spirits down. they're going to enjoy life because life, as they say, nana life is a roller coaster. here we go. very good. >> i thought you were going to say life is short. i was going to say name something that's longer. thank you very much. sophie reaper. she's out there on a roller coaster. the roller coaster of life . love. that coaster of life. love. that love. that's great, isn't it? i couldn't resist, i had to show you that again right now. next up . robert jenrick now, he spoke up. robert jenrick now, he spoke at a leadership rally today saying that he wants to build a new conservative party he vowed. he vowed to battle labour on what he perceives to be laying down a war on the middle class. >> labour's first budget is shaping up. >> it's shaping up to be something big, isn't it? it's shaping up to be a declaration of war on the middle classes of this country. and why are they
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raising our taxes? >> what are they raising your taxes for? >> to try and fund pointless new quangos and to satisfy their union paymasters. >> it will shortly dawn on our new prime minister that the highest earning pips have already been squeezed. >> so the next target, the next target is you. >> the next target will be tax raids on working families across our country . our country. >> he also spoke on what he would do to tackle the small boats crisis . boats crisis. >> anyone who comes here, anyone who comes here illegally, should be deported within hours and days, not weeks. and months. thatis days, not weeks. and months. that is the will of the british people . that is the will of the people. that is the will of the british people. and when it is the will of parliament, no court, domestic or foreign, should be able to stop us. the british people have a right to have a secure border that is the
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first duty of the british state. and i will make sure that it happens once again . happens once again. >> well, that of course, former immigration minister robert jenrick, which begs the question that why didn't they make it happen on their watch? but joining me now, former conservative mp michael fabricant, to discuss points that robert jenrick made. michael, really good to talk to you. lovely to see you, robert jenrick. he seems like a very strong character. probably will make a very good leader for the tory party and what are your thoughts on his speech? was he right with the comments that he made in your view? >> yeah, i think he was. you know, you asked the question very reasonable question actually. why didn't the conservatives do it anyway? >> deal with the echr. >> deal with the echr. >> and he wanted to do just that. >> he actually quit. the government because he didn't agree with what was being said by the home office at the time. so he certainly got integrity. now the question is, if we are going to return people straight
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away, will we have to leave the european court of human rights? and i think he's saying that if it is necessary, we will. >> but, you know, the germans and the spanish are also now saying that they're getting pretty fed up with some of these rulings . rulings. >> so maybe they will make changes as well, because it does seem that everyone, you know, the holy grail is this wonderful echr thing, and everyone wants to be out in a minute. >> it was drafted many, many years ago when what is happening now was not happening then. so everything needs to evolve. >> why not only yeah and not only that, nana you know, it was drafted, i think 1948 49, the british were in fact instrumental in this to ensure that there wouldn't be anything like the holocaust again. >> and, you know, the hcr was there to ensure that things like srebrenica, when the serbians attacked the bosnians shouldn't happen again, though sadly, it did. it certainly wasn't there to tell the british, for
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goodness sake of all countries, you know how to behave when people come illegally into the united kingdom. i always remember the phrase used by william hague, which is that we should be a safe haven, but not a soft touch. and there are legal ways for genuine asylum seekers to come to the uk. but not those people who just simply want to take advantage of free dental care, nhs and all the rest of it. whether we'll have to leave the hcr, it may not be necessary. as i said just now , necessary. as i said just now, maybe the germans and the spanish and others will make changes. or maybe we can opt out because the danes have opted out from part of the european court of human rights. so they're not dictated to by them. as to who they can have into the country and who they can't. so one way or another, though, it is an issue that's got to be addressed. >> it does. now, your thoughts on the candidates that are
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running for election for leadership election. so we've got kemi badenoch, we've got robert jenrick, tom tugendhat, james cleverly, priti patel , mel james cleverly, priti patel, mel stride. i think mel stride has sort of ruled himself out already. has he? well, i don't know. i think so. i thought somebody mentioned that i think he's a 33 to 1. anyway, so is it on gb news? no, no, she's totally wrong. he's still there. no, but he's 33 to 1. so looking at that, i think he's quite an outside, potential anyway. but what do you think? who do you think? would you, would you like to see leading the conservatives? >> it is difficult. i mean, i do like them all. they're, they they're all friends of mine. but no, i'm a robert jenrick fan because at the end of the day, when he saw that the government wasn't doing enough, you know, to deal with the asylum seekers, wasn't really tackling the european court of human rights. he had the integrity and the strength of purpose to say, you know what, i can't be a member of this government any longer, and i respect that sort of thing. i think that shows genuine, genuine belief in what
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he really believes in. and he's quite right to say, you know , quite right to say, you know, this is not what the british people want. i voted for brexit. i was an enthusiastic member of the brexit support gang when i got elected to parliament in 1992, even though the phrase hadnt 1992, even though the phrase hadn't been existed because i believe in the sovereignty of the united kingdom, you know , the united kingdom, you know, we're a separate country. we can't be dictated to by outside bodies. and the european court of human rights is an outside body. and as we both agree , body. and as we both agree, nana, it wasn't set up to deal with issues like this. and now you've got sort of late night judges just deciding to make a name for themselves, no. the supreme court in london should be the supreme court, not the european court of human rights. certainly not on this issue. >> yeah, but it does seem. look, we had options to do things when
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we had options to do things when we left brexit. we didn't do any of the things that would have benefited many of the businesses. so i just sort of see this and think , well, even see this and think, well, even though we're out of the eu and we could have the conservative party could have taken advantage of. so many things. and they didn't they didn't. >> nana you're spot on. actually. you know , we should actually. you know, we should have done so much . look, partly have done so much. look, partly we got distracted by covid, but also there was a substantial number of people, some of them, yes , my friends, but people yes, my friends, but people i disagree with in the conservative parliamentary party who were opposing any changes , who were opposing any changes, like loosening up certain laws which would have made britain more like singapore. and don't knock singapore, by the way, they've got the best education and health systems in the world. but we could have really and we've still got the potential to do it, by the way. but labour certainly not going to do it as we already can see, they're
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going to strengthen up trade union laws. but the conservative party should have taken the opportunity to do it. instead, we wasted our time getting rid of boris johnson, you know, and then a huge fight over whether it should be liz truss or then they got rid of liz truss. i mean , my god, the last two years mean, my god, the last two years were a shambles. and frankly, and this is the first time i think i've said this public we've deserved everything we got the only trouble is the british people have now got the labour party, not reform. and i don't think anybody is going to deserve what's going to happen in the next few months . in the next few months. >> where is your great leader, though? i mean, he might not be. you know, you are looking for a new leader. well nobody's saying anything, though. you're the party have literally remained silent after this awful this what's happening to the country. you know, keir starmer has literally got a free hand. he's
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doing whatever he likes, which of course he's got a massive what is it, 154 seat majority. of course he can. but 158 seat i think it is. but anyway he's doing what he wants. it's recess. nobody's saying anything. >> yeah, well i mean, where is rishi i don't know, i guess what he might be doing is saying, let's, let the potential leaders of the future conservative party and you listed them all, maybe one of them has ruled himself out . maybe not. but maybe let out. maybe not. but maybe let them have their say, they're not. certainly not getting much publicity, i must say, in fact, funnily enough, mel stride has been particularly vocal and well done for him, so i'm interested to hear that you're saying that he's ruling himself out. >> but when i say that, what i meant was that basically he's on a 33 to 1, so nobody thinks he's going to win . but but that's, going to win. but but that's, that's these are the odds 500 to 1 for leader. >> i was 500 to 1 for leader. and i hadn't even put my name forward. >> well that's probably why even an mp now listen, michael, it's an mp now listen, michael, it's a pleasure to talk to you.
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>> thank you so much. that is michael fabricant. yes, there he is . bless michael fabricant. yes, there he is. bless him. thank you so much. lovely to talk to you. yeah. no, mel stride hasn't comment or! that !t always come no, comment on that !t always come no, mel stride hasn't ruled himself out. i just yeah. no, mel stride hasn't ruled himself out. i just literally made that up. no, my point was that it was 33 to 1, literally made that up. no, my point was that it was 33 to 1, so that was the point i was so that was the point i was actually trying to make, which i actually trying to make, which i didn't make so eloquently. but didn't make so eloquently. but thanks for the correction. right. joining me now on my thanks for the correction. right. joining me now on my panel right. joining me now on my panel, danny kelly and also panel right. joining me now on my panel, danny kelly and also nigel nelson and nigel nelson. nigel nelson and nigel nelson. i'll come to you, okay. so does i'll come to you, okay. so does anyone care about the tory anyone care about the tory leadership ? not to be rude. i leadership ? not to be rude. i leadership? not to be rude. i mean, i'm asking . leadership? not to be rude. i mean, i'm asking . mean, i'm asking. >> well, it's the only show in mean, i'm asking. >> well, it's the only show in town at the moment, so we all town at the moment, so we all sort of interested to see who sort of interested to see who takes over. bear in mind, takes over. bear in mind, whoever this leader is probably whoever this leader is probably won't be the leader at the won't be the leader at the election . so we've probably got election . so we've probably got election. so we've probably got the way the tory party works . election. so we've probably got the way the tory party works . the way the tory party works. we've probably got two or even the way the tory party works. we've probably got two or even three leaders to go before we three leaders to go before we get to the 2029 election. get to the 2029 election. >> okay, danny. short and sweet. >> okay, danny. short and sweet. >> okay, danny. short and sweet. >> it was interesting listening >> okay, danny. short and sweet. >> it was interesting listening to michael. he was a great mp to michael. he was a great mp for 22 years, lichfield in for 22 years, lichfield in staffordshire. i used to interview him every now and staffordshire. i used to interview him every now and again for the bbc and the again for the bbc and the midlands, and you could ring him up and say, mike, i need a midlands, and you could ring him up and say, mike, i need a
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comment on that. it always come comment on that. it always come on air. that's the sort of guy he was and unfortunately he's been damaged by the current situation within the tory party. and of course , reform. they've and of course, reform. they've obviously harmed the
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24 minutes after 5:00. this is gb news. i'm nana akua. we are live on tv, online and on digital radio. and now it's time for this week's outside. now my very special guest is a transgender person called scott nugent. he was a successful business sales executive named kelly king a top performer who earned various awards and recognition. however, at the age of 42, he made the difficult decision to transition from a lesbian to a transgender man, and during his medical transition, scott faced numerous complications that left him with over $1 million medical expenses and caused him to lose everything he has worked for, including his home, career and marriage. but despite these challenges, scott never gave up and he was determined to be there for his three teenage children and pushed through the pain and adversity, inspiring others with his story of perseverance. he's the founder of true voices, a group of trans
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educators who oppose radical gender activism and seek to educate politicians and families about the reality of gender dysphoria. and perhaps the british medical association could talk to scott. after the leaders of the union voted to reject the findings of the landmark cass review. well, i'm pleased to say that the founder of true voices, scott nugent , of true voices, scott nugent, joins me now. scott, thank you so much for coming on. just give us an update on how you are. we spoke to you a little while ago. about a year ago, we spotted you on twitter. very inspirational. talk to me about where you are on your journey and what's happening with you. >> well, i just released my memoir, lesbian devil to straight man saint and every single podcast that i do, the first question i always get is why? >> and that is a really difficult question to answer in a podcast. so i go through the whole the whole scenario of why i medically transitioned. and once you get to the end of that, you kind of go, yeah , i get it. you kind of go, yeah, i get it. we need to we need to get a grip. all of us do . so. grip. all of us do. so. >> so for those who didn't see
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your first video, which we did a while ago, why did you transition? because you were 42 when you did this? >> yeah. you know, the book will will kind of go into it in detail. but but the whole basis of it is that the majority of people that medically transition , people that medically transition, they don't fit in and they don't fit in for several reasons, ehhen fit in for several reasons, either. homosexual autism . kind either. homosexual autism. kind of odd, maybe a very effeminate man or very masculine woman . but man or very masculine woman. but the majority of people who medically transition don't fit in, and they're being told that that this will allow them to fit in and it doesn't, it just makes it worse. but on the other side of it, we've got, you know, so many people on the right and the left that we don't really get into the grey of things. there are some people that do medically transition and walk a little bit lighter in life, but it's cosmetic. it doesn't cure anything. it causes massive health issues, makes mental health issues, makes mental health worse, and unfortunately, nobody's able to hear that truth,
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>> i wonder why nobody's talking about the actual dealing with once you transitioned, because i can imagine it's a journey that you get to the thing that you were wanting to be, and then you probably ask yourself, well, do i feel better? and a lot of people might just say, i still feel the same. yep >> yeah. so that's one of the things that i think a lot of people don't realise. you can't pull apart this, this topic without understanding that medical transition is a long process. it's 5 to 7 years when you don't fit in and somebody tells you that you're going to, you just have to go through that journey. if you're still in the middle of that journey, well, you know, when people stop being bigots and calling me by my, you know , name or pronouns i want, know, name or pronouns i want, i'll feel better. and that happens. and then you kind of move through it and you get to the end and then you realise it didn't help anything. and that's why the only long term study that has ever held the test of time says that these kids and these young adults that were medically transitioning will be the most suicidal after they finish medical transition. and on top of it, only eight studies
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that say it's beneficial. they've all been retracted or modified with oops, doesn't help anything. and that's the truth, whether it irritates anybody or not. >> so what are your thoughts now? because we've had the cass review, which was a welcome review, which was a welcome review, i'm sure you're aware of it . it was a welcome review. it. it was a welcome review. we've got the british medical association there, the union for the doctors in this country, and some people at the top of that union have said that they're not going to take any notice of the parts of the review, one of which is prescribing puberty blockers for young people, which obviously have side effects. but this was something that this particular union didn't seem to support. >> yeah. and i'll tell you something about puberty blockers, puberty blockers out of all of medical transition causes the most damage. by the way, most people don't know that ehhen way, most people don't know that either, when you step back from this and you kind of look at it from a 30,000 foot view, you realise that human rights is a business, activism is a business. and so what has happenedis business. and so what has happened is that you know,
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stonewall claimed bankruptcy in 2015 because, you know , we won 2015 because, you know, we won gay marriage. there was nothing else to do. next year. they had a 32% year over year growth. so, they signed on for medically transitioning children. so for the first time in history, human rights is backed by pharmaceuticals, is backed by the medical industry, is backed by celebrities. everybody wants to jump on the human rights debate. and what we don't realise is that it's on both right and left. we have the turning point. you know, the kirk of the world that's running all the republican, you know, conventions. right now. they went from taking in $400,000 in donations to 90,000,000 in 4 years. and guess what? their main topic is lgbtq. and so it goes both ways . so there's so goes both ways. so there's so much money into it that the right doesn't really want people in the middle to speak about it and to help people understand the truth. the left doesn't want people in the middle to talk because they like it just the way they are. i mean, they're making millions and they're
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causing chaos and we're getting ready to go into civil war period. end of story. i don't care what anybody says. we are getting to a place where people are going to start flipping out. >> now, you said that the puberty blockers caused the most damage. presumably that's from your experience. we don't have full records of what it will do, which is why one of the reasons why i think it's terrible to be prescribing these things to children especially, we don't know the full effects of this in the long term. but in your view , the long term. but in your view, what were those things that you said were the worst things? so obviously you're saying it, you've been through it. >> so here's the thing. puberty blockers block puberty, right ? blockers block puberty, right? there are things in puberty that you can skip over that will kind of come out like for example, facial hairs. the reason why women can start taking testosterone and they start growing facial hair. but there are things that you jump over in puberty. and if you jump over that timeline, you don't go back. so we're talking about bone issues. we're talking about early onset osteoporosis. we're talking about spines not fusing together properly. we're not seeing the pictures of the 15 year olds that are walking like this. we're talking about
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hearts, lungs, organs remain the size of 11 and 12 year olds, never to grow to full maturity. we're talking about boys. never. and, you know, the main transgender, surgeon even affirmed this. these boys that are on puberty blockers will neven are on puberty blockers will never, ever, ever, ever , ever never, ever, ever, ever, ever experience an orgasm, and, you know , so infertility, there's so know, so infertility, there's so many things heart issues, blood issues, those are all based on puberty blockers . so the truth puberty blockers. so the truth is, is that people don't want people to know about puberty blockers because the transgender human craze or the human rights is making way too much money for too many people. and nobody really understands the truth. >> so your book is out now. talk to me briefly about the book and where people can get hold of it. >> well, the book is lesbian devil to straight man saint. so it goes on. you know, in my childhood, some, some abuse that has happened, some sexual abuse, some different things , it goes
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some different things, it goes through me coming out and then, you know , thinking that i was you know, thinking that i was born in the wrong body. and if you can understand why a 42 year old successful person can sit across from a transgender therapist and ask that person, how long have you been dressing like a man? when i was in a business, suit, earrings and makeup . how that changed the makeup. how that changed the trajectory of my life. you don't understand how it happens and unless you walk through it, it's a very raw book. i didn't get any sponsors. it's all me. you know, the feminists. i agree with some of the things with the feminists, not everything. so they didn't want to. you know, help me with this. the christians, some of the things l, christians, some of the things i, you know , agree with the i, you know, agree with the christians, not all conservatives, liberal all the way around . and i said, i'm just way around. and i said, i'm just going to do this the right way. i'm going to write a memoir that is actually a memoir that i write. nobody else wrote it , and write. nobody else wrote it, and it's going to be raw. it's going to be real. and at the end of it, you're going to go, i get it now, and it's doing really well. actually, it's the number one book selling in canada. usa and the christian and lgbt space and i believe it already popped up to the top release in the uk as
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well. >> well, listen, scott, it's such an honour to have you on. thank you so much for your thoughts and your comments. much appreciated. thank you. the brilliant scott nugent. and of course he did say that nobody is told about whether you will ever experience orgasm with having taken puberty blockers. i do not have the evidence to prove that is true or false. but just to let you know, he did say that. but i again, we don't have that evidence simply because they haven't been around long enough. and also a lot of people haven't really been taking them . so this really been taking them. so this is one of the reasons why the cass review exists. this is gb news. you're with me. i'm nana mark white. we are live on tv, onune mark white. we are live on tv, online and on digital radio. still to come, we'll continue with the great british debate. and i'm asking our times tables still relevant. my panel will be joining me. danny kelly and also nigel nelson. first though, let's get your latest news headunes. headlines. >> hello, i'm will hollis with your latest news headlines at half past five. we've got some breaking news for you now .
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breaking news for you now. parties on the right are leading in at least one of the state elections in germany. that's according to an early exit poll . according to an early exit poll. and we'll bring you more of that as we do hear it, the leader of the scottish national party has been speaking before members on the final day of the conference in edinburgh. the keynote speech by scotland's first minister, john swinney, who took over the took over the party from humza yousaf in may, highlighted child poverty as a priority. plus a ceasefire in gaza. >> hamza was one of the first and remains a leading voice, demanding an immediate ceasefire and the return safely of all hostages in gaza. but the message from this conference be heard loud and clear the killing of innocent men, women and children must end, and it must end now . end now. >> sir keir starmer has joined world leaders condemning what he's described as the horrific and senseless killing of six hostages in gaza . us president
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>> good afternoon. welcome. you are live on tv, online and on digital radio. if you've just tuned in, where have you been? it's near the end of the show. i'm nana akua. welcome, welcome. it's time now for the great british debate this out. i'm asking our times tables still relevant? the teaching unions are this time are at it again, this time telling the government the times tables be scrapped in tables need to be scrapped in primary schools to prevent pupils from experiencing high levels of anxiety. and it's not just times tables that they want grammar exams to be stripped back and simply simplified. sats or sats. education secretary bridget phillipson will receive these demands in time for the curriculum and assessment review times. table tests are currently compulsory in england for pupils year four pupils introduced by the conservative government in 2018. daniel kabadi, the general secretary of the national education union, said that tests are often designed to hold
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schools to account rather than support teaching and learning, and placed intense pressure on children, families and school staff. children should not be losing sleep in the name of holding schools accountable. so what do you think our schools are? times tables still relevant? joining me broadcast from journalist danny kelly and also gb news senior political commentator nigel nelson. nigel nelson nine times nine. >> oh, i know miss , miss i have >> oh, i know miss, miss i have to go through the times table to get there. >> miss . >> miss. >> miss. >> no, the —81. >> no, the —81. >> miss. miss seven times seven, seven fives 35 4249. oh, goodness. >> these are useless. these >> these are useless. these >> lot 49. >> lot 49. >> all right. what about eight times 432. >> that's easy. yeah. go back to nigel. he's struggling nine times six. >> i would have to go through the times table 45 16262 6 to 1254. >> 49 times six. you go to ten times six and you minus six. it's 53. >> you say i don't do it that way. that's all you do. i go through the actual. i go through the table . the table. >> does it really long. wrong way. he doesn't do it. did you?
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oh, that's a bit embarrassing. >> it's so funny. >> it's so funny. >> well , i >> it's so funny. >> well, i could have easily brushed that past you two because you two look dumber and dumber , right? dumb and dumber. dumber, right? dumb and dumber. >> you know, i think as a child. right? | >> you know, i think as a child. right? i think basic numeracy skills are really important. i've often wondered over recent years, what's the point of like for example, geography at school because you've got the internet. so if you want to find out a little bit about the history of portugal , or little bit about the history of portugal, or if you want to find out about their colonies or where they are , you could argue where they are, you could argue that maths, you've got calculator. >> you're right. >> you're right. >> so you can do everything on a calculator. the one thing, the one thing i've always used, but obviously the wrong way is you've just shown me is the times tables . they've stayed times tables. they've stayed with me all the way from junior school right throughout my life. i do use them, but i have to go through them to get to the one i'm after. you know what? >> you know what it is. i think it's called rote learning where you learn things in order. but actually i think that the ability to make your mind behave in that way is actually quite a relevant skill. and it can be appued relevant skill. and it can be applied to other things. so having i don't know about the
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test, but when i was young we had tests all the time. so i think it's important. but i do believe that actually the way that you have to learn the times table is important because it helps to create a pathway to learning in your brain. >> nigel's point about the internet and a calculator is a valid one. i'd say that we need to separate maths from the world wide web, because when you're in the supermarket and for example, you've got a buy one, get one free or buy three and it's 4.95, or buy two and it's 288 things like that. you know, you can really tackle it and i think numeracy skills is much, much more deep than just using the world wide web to find portugal's colonies, for example. >> well, even when you're on radio. so i became really fast at working out the numbers of times how long i've got this, that, and the other. i literally looked at the screen go 10s was that, that, that, that, that's that, that, that, that, that's that time it will end then. so you become really quick at doing these things. and that all stems, i think, from time to table. so nigel, let's give you a test. do your seven times tables. >> column 1772 7 to 14. three sevens are 20 147 are 20 845 sevens are 20 147 are 20 845 sevens are 20 147 are 20 845 sevens are 30 five six, seven are 42, seven, seven, 249 eight
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sevens 56 nine. sevens are no no no no. [10 110. >> no no. >> thank you very much. ten 7 to 70. yeah. >> 1177 1271. no no 70. yeah. >> 11771271. no no no no no no >> 1177 1271. no no no no no no no no. yeah. 84 thank you. >> crikey. that was slow. that was painful. >> it was slow. >> it was slow. >> look, look, i wasn't even allowed to take my o—level maths because i was so bad at it. but but the times table is the one thing i've been able to retain. >> and when you're given change, for example, nine times table for example, nine times table for you go for it. for example, nine times table for you go for it . 918, 27, 36, for you go for it. 918, 27, 36, 40, 43, 52, 66 i got nine fours, 3636. so 54, 55, 64, 36 after 36. >> what's the next one with the nine? >> that's 45. that's what i said. and he said 43. oh did i miss miss miss. let me have another go. and then 54 this is
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even worse. 6372 8190 do you think that kids should have to learn these things, or do you think it's a bit. well, i don't know whether it causes anxiety. i'm not sure. when i was a kid, i'm not sure. when i was a kid, i wasn't well, i wasn't , i i wasn't well, i wasn't, i didn't i don't think it was anxiety inducing. when i went to school and did basic maths, i'm trying to think, yeah, i don't remember exams , exams for this. remember exams, exams for this. >> you learnt by rote, you learnt the times table and i do think that kids have too many exams. i'd rather a bit more continuous assessment, but that's a general point. >> all right. well i would probably, i'd probably get rid of them a little bit because i feel sorry because i know my son ivor, he struggles with this, but he's very, very good at actual application of maths, lego, all that kind of thing. so i think we focus on too much on just one more thing before we go for a break. >> miss, miss, isn't it interesting the union's putting leverage on the government about this as well? isn't that interesting, nige? it doesn't surprise me. >> well, listen. stay tuned. loads more stuff to come this is gb news. >> what a smile
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>> good afternoon. welcome to gb news. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua loads still to come on the programme, but lots of you have been getting in touch with all your thoughts and comments and we were talking about them, weren't we? joining me, my panellists danny kelly and also what's your name ? nigel what's your name? nigel hahahahahahahaha . right. so hahahahahahahaha. right. so let's see. christine says when i was five we're talking about times table. when i was five at school, i was, i was talking got caught whilst table revision was on. i had to stand on the desk and recite my five times. table, of course, made a few mistakes . of course, made a few mistakes. never again. i was caught out. and did i suffer from flashbacks and anxiety? no. i learnt a lesson and moved on. i like that susan says tables are vital as it's the starting point for teaching mathematics. how are people going to do simple addition if they do not know how
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to multiply ? that's a good to multiply? that's a good point, isn't it? i mean, you know, oh, it's hurting the feelings they're getting upset two times two. oh, i can't , two times two. oh, i can't, michael says there are many things to protect children from, but timetables and grammar are not them . stress and anxiety not them. stress and anxiety build resilience well rounded adults who can deal with problems of life that life will throw at them. a generation of mollycoddled kids who cry. every problem is no for good anyone, gordon says. the times tables are probably the most useful thing that i ever learned. i was sort of with you on that as well. actually. i think they are. and they stay with you forever, don't they? right. well still loads more here to come on gb news, but it's time now for supplements sunday when my panel and i discuss some of the stories that caught our eye. joining me, danny kelly, and also nigel nelson. nigel, i'll start with you first. what's your story? >> it's a story from the sunday mirror and it's a survey history survey that shows that 1 in 10 brits don't know the difference between queen cleopatra and boudicca or boadicea, depending on what generation you come
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from. so as the sunday mirror points out, boo is a celtic warrior queen who struck terror into the romans. cleo is an egyptian ruler and made romans fall in love with her because of her legendary beauty. >> she must have stunk because she used to bathe in milk. have you ever left milk out for a while ? while? >> ooh, sour. >> ooh, sour. >> well, there you go. but. but she was meant to be a great beauty. at least that's how juuus beauty. at least that's how julius caesar. >> lovely. >> lovely. >> this one's from the mirror. >> this one's from the mirror. >> sza. very good. >> sza. very good. >> this one's from the mirror as well. i don't know whether you have cats, whether you're cat people , i love cats. people, i love cats. >> are you a cat person? >> are you a cat person? >> i'm a cat person. >> we've got two cats. they're just amazing creatures. well, anyway, so the owner was wondering why where the cat was going all day. the cat was coming home, wasn't eating the food yet. it was putting weight on. one day the cat came back with a handwritten note around the collar saying, does anyone actually own this cat? it's always at the toby carvery . so always at the toby carvery. so they'd be hand feeding it all of they'd be hand feeding it all of the best bits of the roast dinners. >> yeah, that's a clever that
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way. yeah, really. >> like they're fabulous animals. what a lucky cat. >> well, i'm going to go on to this story now because i literally had to do it because i just felt that ed miliband couldn't get away with this. but this is his wind farm. a wind farm that is paid and that is paid, not has paid, is paid £2.5 million to keep its turbines switched off. yes. ed miliband's flagship project is forced to discard 62% of its output in the first month, but still cash in. so this is his this wind thing that he's he's coming up with all these net zero policies and he the energy secretary, actually praised he is the energy secretary. he praised viking wind farm in the shetlands, which officially opened on thursday, saying hundreds of thousands of homes across the country would benefit from cheap home—grown energy. however, of course it was the they've been paid money to have their turbines switched off. >> it sounds counter—intuitive. can they not store the electricity that. no, that's the problem. but it cost them £2 billion to stop them spinning. the fans . the fans. >> well, 2.5 million to keep the turbines, and eventually they
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will be able to store. >> one of the big tasks ahead is to be able to store the electricity that the wind farms produce. >> well, wouldn't it be good if you could work that out first before putting inflicting this policy? >> well, i mean, the first thing to do is you've got to build these things anyway. they take between 10 and 15 years to actually get running. so you need to do that first. if this all works out, we will get cheaper electricity by the end of the decade. >> right . but of the decade. >> right. but by that time, maybe we'll have thought of something else like hydrogen or fusion or something else that's far better than wind farms. nigel, lovely to talk to you. right. on today's show. and, of course. what about me? on today, i'm coming to you. on today's show, i've been asking as . show, i've been asking as. rumours circle that prince harry wants to end his self—inflicted four year exile in the us and return to the uk. would you welcome him back? well, according to my twitter poll, 18% of you said yes, but 82% of you said no. you mean people? i'm with you. thank you so much to my panel, broadcaster and journalist danny kelly. thank
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you. danny. there you go. there's yours. and also, thank you to you, nigel nelson, for joining me. >> yeah. thank you. nana. >> yeah. thank you. nana. >> and as ever, thank you to you at home for your company. it's been a blast. as ever. i'm back tomorrow from britain's newsroom at 930. but i'll leave you with the weather coming up next. stay tuned for a fabulous show up next, it's . next, it's. neil oliver. >> looks like things are heating up. boxt boilers. sponsors of weather on gb news. >> hello there. welcome to your latest gb news weather forecast from the met office. it stays unsettled over the next 24 hours or so. thunderstorms in the forecast, particularly across central and eastern areas, but the west also seeing some heavy showers. low pressure dominating the weather pattern at the moment. met office warning out through the rest of sunday and
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through the rest of sunday and through monday as well for these heavy showers. central southern parts seeing some heavy showers pushing northwards through this evening. time into northern england. southern scotland and then further showers developing from the south as we head into the early hours, so you may be woken up by some rumbles of thunder, lightning, hail also a risk , some flash flooding risk, some flash flooding possible. a warm, humid night for everyone. temperatures remaining in the mid to high teens and then an unsettled start to monday. we've got bands of thundery showers in places, so looking at scotland first thing in the morning, a cloudy start to the day. outbreaks of showery rain, some heavy downpours possible, particularly in the east. some rumbles of thunder. there could be some disruption to travel first thing. northern ireland seeing showery outbreaks of rain. thunderstorms across northern england as well stretching into central southern parts of england and wales. so wherever you are on monday morning, there could be some local disruption first thing and it stays unsettled through the day ahead.
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we see areas of showers, some longer spells of rain , longer spells of rain, thunderstorms across many parts of the uk . a met office warning of the uk. a met office warning out for much of the day could see 30 to 50mm in places, could lead to some flash flooding. temperatures generally near average for most in any brightness. temperatures reaching around 25 celsius towards the southeast into the evening time. further thunderstorms rumble on to end the day brighter skies trying to follow in from the far west before dusk and then showers overnight. it remains unsettled for the week ahead. temperatures generally near average in the north, perhaps a little above in the south. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather
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