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the first to go, badenoch was the first to go, but refused to say what level of immigration she'd like to see. and we're gearing up now for james cleverly's speech in just a few minutes. we'll take that to you live. >> who's your money on.7 okay, now, dodging a vote, labour accused of hiding from scrutiny as mps now demand a vote in parliament on the scrapping of the winter fuel allowance for millions of pensioners. want to hear from you on that. should they put it to a vote? >> absolutely. and the rise of the right. germany's right wing anti—immigration party, the afd, storms to victory in a key state election this just days after keir starmer urged progressives in europe to fend off the threat of snake oil. populists . of snake oil. populists. >> well, we've got loads on today, haven't we? but of course, this show only survives with you and your input, so make sure you get in touch with us by
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going to gbnews.com forward slash your, say the big one for us today. we want to hear from you on really i think is whether or not labour should put a vote to parliament on scrapping the winter fuel payments. they might be scrapping your winter fuel payment. if they are, then let us know. i think the other one probably is the old immigration cap. should kemi badenoch of badenoch. sorry, i've put a number on. yeah. >> is it good enough? is it good enough to just say, oh, we'll you know . well is it, is it good you know. well is it, is it good enough to speak in such vague terms about immigration when it is currently the number one issue for voters, as she swerved it entirely? we'll play the clip to you just to remind you of what exactly she said. this was a question put by our political correspondent katherine forster to us. she didn't want to give a number. she gave a vague answer on on how to improve the home office and things like this. but i think people want a number. or perhaps you don't believe in targets anyway. but yes, the winter fuel allowance, the conservatives, the liberal democrats, of course, they're saying there must be a vote in parliament. so far, though, government sources are saying absolutely not. that is not
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going to happen. but this is a policy that could affect io policy that could affect 10 million pensioners. >> yeah, i think they may well lose that vote. i think quite a lot of labour mps would think that we should just pay everything for everybody . everything for everybody. therefore, how on earth would you square not having a winter fuel payment for millions of pensioners? but there we go . pensioners? but there we go. could that be sir keir starmer's first rebellion? is he just trying to swerve everything and have no democracy? but yeah, go to gbnews.com forward slash your say get in touch with us. but now we've got the headlines with tatiana . tatiana. >> patrick. emily. thank you very much. and good afternoon. the top stories. kemi badenoch has launched her tory leadership campaign a short while ago, calling for change in the conservative party. the shadow communities secretary and contender to replace rishi sunak said her party has to focus on renewal to be ready to return to power. mr badenoch used the speech to also accuse the labour party of pulling the wool over the eyes of the public, insisting that it's time for
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something new. >> we can't just sit around pointing out how terrible labour are. that's just not good enough and we can't just keep having the same policy arguments from the same policy arguments from the last parliament. we are not in power. we lost. labour will fail. and when that time comes and the british people are looking for change, we have to be that change. we have to focus on renewal, the renewal of our party, our politics and our thinking. and it starts with principles. principles are the fundamentals that give us direction, unity and certainty. they must underpin everything we do . do. >> meanwhile, in a major speech in london shortly, leadership contender james cleverly is expected to say that conservative answers are needed to solve the most challenging problems facing our country. cleverly will highlight the need for us to remake the argument for us to remake the argument for capitalism to boost economic growth and give younger people a
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stake in society. he is expected to argue we should be a family first society and stop looking to walk to the states as our first port of call . to walk to the states as our first port of call. in to walk to the states as our first port of call . in other first port of call. in other news, the prime minister has said the scrapping of single phrase inspection headline grades for schools in england will be a relief for parents. previously, ofsted awarded one of four headline grades to schools. it inspects and those are outstanding. good requires improvement and inadequate. the department for education says for inspections this academic yean for inspections this academic year, parents will see four grades across the existing subcategories , those being subcategories, those being quality of education, behaviour and attitudes, personal development and leadership, and management. education secretary bridget phillipson has told reporters this morning that the death of headteacher ruth perry made the need for ofsted reform absolutely clear. and the prime minister says it will hold schools accountable. >> i've got a mission for our government, which is to make sure that every single child, whatever their background, wherever they come from, has the
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best possible education. and this move today is about driving up standards, making sure that we have a richer picture so parents can see in a more accountable way the real strength of a school and making sure we've got the improvements in to catch schools quickly. so this is all about driving up standards. and i'm really pleased that we're able to do it so quickly . so quickly. >> from today, the government will fund 15 hours per week of free childcare for eligible working parents whose children are between nine months and two years old. the 15 hours per week is in addition to an existing offer to parents of two year olds and 30 hours of free childcare, already offered to parents of children aged three and four. however, concerns have continued to be raised about the capacity of the sector to absorb the uptick in childcare places, with an extra 85,000 places needed by next year to complete the rollout . international news the rollout. international news and an israeli court has ruled that a general strike that shut
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much of the country's economy must end. this afternoon. that's as thousands of people in tel aviv and jerusalem filled the streets last night after the killing of six hostages in gaza. protesters blocked roads while police used water cannons to disperse crowds. idf soldiers recovered the bodies of the hostages, who israel says were killed moments before troops reached them. well, today , since reached them. well, today, since this morning, israel's entire economy has been on strike, and that's in a bid to pressure the country's prime minister, benjamin netanyahu, into accepting a gaza ceasefire deal after those six hostages were shot dead. prime minister sir keir starmer condemned what he described as the horrific and senseless killings . back home, senseless killings. back home, the department for work and pensions is launching a week of action to encourage the elderly to check their eligibility for pension credit , worth up to pension credit, worth up to £3,900 a year. the campaign will involve charities and local authorities urging the families, friends and neighbours of elderly people to ask them to
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look into whether they could benefit . chancellor rachel benefit. chancellor rachel reevesis benefit. chancellor rachel reeves is seeking to soften the blow from her cut on the winter fuel allowance, with a drive to encourage more pensioners to take up benefits they may not know that they're entitled to . know that they're entitled to. and the government has promised to look into dynamic ticket pricing after the cost of tickets for the oasis reunion toun tickets for the oasis reunion tour. more than doubled while on sale. culture secretary lisa nandy described the selling of inflated oasis tickets as depressing. on saturday, fans of the world famous band sat in virtual queues for hours, hoping to get their hands on tickets to one of the shows next year. however, when they finally got through many were met with ticket prices far higher than face value. some expressed their anger on social media, as tickets worth £148 were being sold for £355 on ticketmaster within hours of release . and within hours of release. and those are the latest gb news headunes those are the latest gb news headlines for now. i'm tatiana sanchez, more from me in half an
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hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code , or go to the qr code, or go to gbnews.com. >> forward slash alerts . >> forward slash alerts. >> forward slash alerts. >> well good afternoon britain. it is now 1208 and it's a it's a big day in westminster today. it's a new term. it's a new parliament. big day for the country i guess the tory leadership race is heating up. a candidate, james cleverly, is about to set out his campaign. he says he's going to abolish stamp duty in order to get more people on the property ladder. so abolish stamp duty for all homes, i believe, is what he's going to announce very imminently. >> yeah, i mean, that would be absolutely massive, wouldn't it? rival kemi badenoch has also launched her campaign to become the leader of the conservative party, with a speech earlier this morning, she said that the
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tories brought on their own downfall. but she has not put a number on acceptable immigration levels, had a cap of ten thousands of tens of thousands when david cameron came in. >> we need to ask ourselves why didn't that work? rather than just saying, we'll make another promise, something went wrong there. so it's not just about throwing out numbers and throwing out numbers and throwing out numbers and throwing out targets, throwing out targets . something is wrong out targets. something is wrong with the system. so i'm talking about the system. people who are throwing out numbers and saying, oh well , throwing out numbers and saying, oh well, we'll throwing out numbers and saying, oh well , we'll leave the echr oh well, we'll leave the echr and so on, or giving you easy answers. that is how we got into this mess in the first place. i'm not going to do that. >> people want numbers though, don't they ? don't they? >> they do want numbers, but they also want those targets to be hit. and i am sympathetic to the idea that she's got a point, which is she could just stand there and say, right, tens of thousands. and we've heard that before, haven't we? it's not happened. so, you know, there. is that true? >> it's interesting what she said , actually about the home said, actually about the home office. she said it's important that we actually have the right people in there whose skills are
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actually the right ones for the home office. she spoke about how a lot of people in there are, you know, from refugee charities, and their first concern is, of course, looking after refugees and things. are they going to be the best people for border control, which you have to be quite tough for? >> you've got you've got sir matthew rycroft, who's one of the people in there who got a £30,000 bonus, by the way, just a few months ago for his fantastic work stopping the boats, clearly. but, yeah, he was also there . was also there. >> didn't know the home office gave out bonuses. >> he was also their their civil service head of diversity for a while. and you do wonder whether or not those two roles, when it comes to border security and being the head of diversity, can really marry up in terms of the technicals , the first hopefuls technicals, the first hopefuls going to be eliminated this week. >> so it will go from 6 to 5, then it will go from 5 to 4. and then it will go from 5 to 4. and then the four that are left will do their big speech at the tory conference, and they'll go from there. but to discuss this all is conservative mp and tom tugendhat supporter patrick spencer patrick very much there. thank you very much indeed for joining us this afternoon. it's going to be a big week for the tory leadership hopefuls. why
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tom. >> gosh, great question, thanks for having me on. by the way. it's lovely to be here. my first time on gb news as a sitting mp, look , every one of those look, every one of those candidates is great in my opinion. i've been fortunate to meet all of them, in the last couple of weeks. and months. i guess the reason it's tom for me, though, is i've known him for a long time, he's been a friend for a while, and he's someone that i know quite well. and i think when it comes to picking our new leader , we've picking our new leader, we've got to pick the right person , got to pick the right person, and we've got to pick someone with the skills not just to lead the party, but to lead the country. i've been saying to people in my association, i've been to talking friends, i've been to talking friends, i've been talking to voters, i've been talking to voters, i've been talking to people who didn't for vote us, and i've been saying, you know, we need someone who you can trust, someone who you can trust, someone who you trust with your family, someone you'd be willing to go into battle for, someone you would have a pint down the pub with. and i think tom is all of those things. someone who's a
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true conservative in every sense of the word . someone who just, of the word. someone who just, you know, you cut him open, he bleeds red, white and blue. he loves this country. he served it at all parts of his life and his career . and at all parts of his life and his career. and he. yeah, he just embodies all the things that i just to, just for our viewers who are watching us on television now and just to say what's going on next to you on our screen is that we are waiting for james cleverly to start his big leadership pitch, kind of properly, as it were, with a big statement. >> so we will take that live as and when that comes through to us. but patrick, you know, look at kemi badenoch, for example, not wanting to put a number on the amount of immigration that she'd find acceptable. do you think she's wrong to do that ? think she's wrong to do that? >> no, i think she's doing exactly the right thing by talking about it and being honest with people. i think, if she's not comfortable pinning her, her campaign to a specific number, i think that's that's
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honest. and that's what the people, that's what members and voters want to hear. tom's made a commitment to 100,000 legal cap, and i think that's the right thing for the country. it's a legal cap, which means, that it was embedded in the last manifesto, and it will be the first time ever that we're bound to something like that. so it will, look, look, obviously , will, look, look, obviously, immigration is an incredibly important thing for people across the country. it's a huge issue, and i think it's right that all candidates are talking about it in a sensible way. >> and, patrick, what's the deal with this winter fuel allowance? we're hearing that labour absolutely do not want to have a vote on this. are the tories going to push for that today? >> absolutely. >> absolutely. >> in what way? with a with a question in parliament pushing for a debate. what's going to happen? >>i happen? >> i actually there are loads of mps. >> i actually there are loads of mp5. i >> i actually there are loads of mps. i think esther mcvey is leading from the front on this, loads of us are keen to make sure the labour party are held to account for something that they said they would do ten years ago, they said they then
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said they wouldn't do . now said they wouldn't do. now they've created a false black hole and they're using a kind of unfair, scrupulous attack on old age pensioners to , to, to meet age pensioners to, to, to meet their policy agenda. so it's deeply duplicitous and something they absolutely need to be held to account for. >> okay. all right. well, look , >> okay. all right. well, look, patrick, i know that will go down very, very well. a lot of people are saying it wasn't in the manifesto. we should be having a discussion about all of this. it should be put to parliament whether or not keir starmer is just very, very afraid, actually, of having a massive backbench rebellion, possibly from the slightly different aspect than the conservatives. mainly, i would imagine, because i think a lot of labour mps just think the state should pay for absolutely everything all the time. so i would be questioning whether or not they think it should be scrapped for those reasons. but, thank you very much. patrick spencen thank you very much. patrick spencer, there is a tom tugendhat supporter, and we are going to be showing you james cleverly, very, very shortly. we think he's going to storm onto stage and try to outdo kemi badenoch and outdo. >> i believe it's still the warm up act at the moment. of course, you know, the leader to be or
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the leader hopeful has a few people speak before they come to the stage. >> wanted tickets to see james cleverly could get them. you know, people were people queuing up on ticketmaster as of midnight, just desperately trying to get them. priti patel had all her merch. >> you'd get a baseball cap with a pretty unite the party or something like that. anyway, shall we speak with former government special adviser james price just ahead of this speech from james cleverly? james, i don't know. may i ask, are you are you backing a particular horse ? oh. oh, we can't hear. james. >> james, sorry. we're just going to i'm just going to get your microphone sorted, my good man. and in the meantime, we've got a lot of people getting in touch. paul's been in touch. he says that the tories stole his wife's pension for six years. now labour wants to steal our winter fuel payment. the obr says that it will affect 7 million pensioners. that's paups million pensioners. that's paul's comments, and annette says yes, there should definitely be a debate and a vote about scrapping the winter fuel allowance. it's beyond bad that reeves is taking away this lifeline for millions of pensioners. do you think that labour are running scared when it comes to the winter fuel
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payments? i believe we might be able to. are we able to reintroduce james price? are we? i think we can't. there he is. second time lucky, my good man. so yes, which way do you see this leadership campaign going? who's. who's the front runner for you ? for you? >> yeah. you can't keep me silenced for long. thanks so much for having me back on. i'm not i'm not backing anybody yet. i'm still waiting to hear what people are saying. i think it's a good contest so far. i think that kemi badenoch performance was almost flawless this morning. i think that you guys were right in that that migration, immigration is going to be such a big issue for conservative party members and also for voters as well, that that's going to be a bit of a challenge for her, if she doesn't come and nail her colours to the mast on it straight away. but i do like the honesty of saying that i'm going to tell you my principles and then the policies will flow from that. so i think that's very, very strong from her. i think she and robert jenrick are probably the favourites with my namesake, james cleverly. we're about to hear from coming up in third place at the moment. i think that's where i see it. >> okay, well, we're currently watching grant shapps, the former minister there. taking to
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his clearly on team cleverly , his clearly on team cleverly, people are picking their sides. i'm not sure how many exactly we've heard from, but it does look like robert jenrick is currently the front runner, james, what does james cleverly need to say to persuade people? is it right? he's perceived sort of being in the centre of the party. >> he always used to be a kind of good sort of a neo thatcherite, almost. and i suppose he's finding his way that if you've got people like robert jenrick and kemi badenoch who, moving sort of further . to who, moving sort of further. to the right, that he's got that kind of centrist space to move into, i think these kinds of names and monikers are a little bit unhelpful. you know, what does really define right wing anymore? you know, we're talking in some terms in terms of migration sometimes in terms of economics. i thought kemi had a very right wing speech this morning because to me, right wing means not looking to the state to solve all of your problems and to shrink the size of the state and to trust that families and individuals and businesses are able to control their own lives. that sounds right wing to me, and damn good too. >> i do wonder whether or not
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actually one of the big questions for the conservatives should be who is keir starmer going to struggle facing the most? because ultimately that is what is going to come down to, i think for members of the public who are active when they watch pmqs and they see the debates going forward, et cetera. and i do wonder whether or not kemi badenoch might actually cause the labour party quite a few problems. there so, you know, there's no way, is there, that keir starmer or the labour party could turn around and, you know, use the old trope of, well, the tories are racist, or that the tories are racist, or that the tories are racist, or that the tories are sexist or misogyny or etc, etc. because you would have kemi badenoch there as a prime example of the fact that they aren't. >> yeah, that's right. and of course the labour party love to look at people based in terms of their the colour of their skin or their sexuality or their or their whatever else. we've got other immutable characteristics like sex or something like that. you know, my old boss, nadhim zahawi wasn't the right kind of brown person for some people in the labour party, and many others have had that as well. but i hope that we don't have a contest based on that. one of the few good things about the
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former prime minister, rishi sunak, was, as he said, that his, you know, his, his, his race wasn't a big part of who he was and that we didn't make a big song and dance about it. i think that's how it should be. i think that's how it should be. i think that's how it should be. i think that you're right, though, that the party members should be thinking about who can win. i thinking about who can win. i think the other one, the other big factor that will hopefully be more and more of a dividing line, it's not a sexy, interesting, exciting thing, but it should be. it's about system reform. kemi was very good on that. reform. kemi was very good on that . robert jenrick has been that. robert jenrick has been very good on that, and they've talked about the need to change the civil service to actually get things done, because it's been so darn difficult and i know this from experience. there are more grey hairs in this beard than there should be because it's so difficult to get things done inside government. and that should be one of the big questions as well. >> we're still got grant shapps on our screens as we await james cleverly to take to the stage to deliver his message to the tory party, and also to the country, i suppose. we're hearing that one of the things he's going to say is that stamp duty should absolutely be abolished across the board. so no one buying a property in this country would
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have to pay that particular tax. why do you think he's gone for that? >> i think it's great. i think that in the abstract, all of these policies that the candidates are coming out with are really good. i think the problem we should do, though, is to make sure they've got the time and space to work through a kind of coherent set of policies. i think this is something that even the thatcher government in waiting didn't do as well as we now think that they did. when you read memoirs and things from the time, it still felt that they weren't nearly as prepared as they perhaps should have been when they went into government. so it's good to see that the different policies that are being announced sort of sets people's priorities. but again, i like the fact that kemi badenoch was talking about her principles and that we should get those things first, because, you know, when david cameron came in, he was talking all, you know, sweetness and light and hug a hoodie and those things. then the financial crash happened and the tories remembered they were meant to be the party of sound money and fiscal responsibility, which is exactly right. and we should get some of that back as well. to be fair to cleverly, he did say that almost unsayable, which is that almost unsayable, which is that you need to talk about spending reductions. no party
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likes to do that . we've seen likes to do that. we've seen this with this winter fuel allowance announcement from laboun allowance announcement from labour, which i think was actually quite brave. i do think we should means test benefits that people get, and that you shouldn't necessarily just give a carte blanche handout. do you think it should be because they're a certain age though, james? >> because that's actually our big call out today and it gives me the opportunity to just just bnngin me the opportunity to just just bring in a couple of more of our viewers, actually. so like joan, for example, says that she feels as though the winter fuel payment should be put to a vote in parliament. gareth says labour think pensioners can't strike when it's cold in the winter. can 10 million of us turn up at the house of commons or our mps homes to keep warm as they keep their their fuel allowance? and do you think that you know that there is obviously a case for means testing it and thatis a case for means testing it and that is something that a lot of people can get their heads around. but is there not a sense that this is the kind of thing that this is the kind of thing that should have been put to a vote in parliament? james it certainly should have been in their manifesto and should have been discussed if it was something they were talking about. >> and you can see that i think it was the leader of the house of commons, lucy powell, saying there would have been a
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financial crash if we didn't do this, which itself is complete and utter rot. so i think that i think that, yes, it would be nice to see this quite outrageous, isn't it? >> that statement from from lucy powell, because , well, it's just powell, because, well, it's just simply untrue. and also when you put that next to the what. £1,113 billion given to public sector pay rises. i mean come on, how can she even make that argument ? argument? >> i can only assume that this is all part of a devious labour strategy to get all the most absolutely terrible news out of the way as early as possible, and hope that the british people have short enough memories that they can come back to bribing us with our own money when it comes to the next election. because let's never forget, there's no such thing as government money. there's only taxpayers money. as margaret thatcher once said, let's hope that people do actually remember all the horrible things that labour are doing. and as you say, they're inventing this black hole because their real bosses in this country, they're not the public, not even the people who voted for them almost by default, because the tories were too busy fighting each other. but their bosses are the union paymasters. we see that from this outrageous ofsted move, and
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the fact that the trade unions and teaching are also saying no more timetables or grammar tests. i mean, ludicrous, and you see it in the trains union strikes. you see it with doctors as well. and this is a problem. who governs britain was the old question. and it seems like the same old labour party would answer that question. the trade unions, rather than the british people. >> yeah, and i appreciate that. now people who are running for the conservative leadership. and just to emphasise again, we are looking at the stage here at james cleverly's launch proper and we are waiting for him to take to that stage. as soon as he does, we'll take you live to that. but james, i can't help but wonder whether or not actually a lot of the incoming, tory leaders and manifesto will have been written by him because, because it's going to because, because it's going to be the reversal of everything labour have done. let's cut in, because james must be james cleverly. now sorry, james price, to say goodbye to you for now. james cleverly here marching towards the stage. i don't know if we can hear what what's his entrance? music . all
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what's his entrance? music. all right, so unite our party with conservative values. is his slogan cleverly for leader on the stage behind him there a standing ovation. as you would expect. xl bullies to him. now see what he has to say as he sets out his bold vision for britain . britain. >> thank you, thank you . hey oh >> thank you, thank you. hey oh come on, thank you , thank you, come on, thank you, thank you, thank you so much. thank you, shivani, for what you said . i'm shivani, for what you said. i'm incredibly grateful for the support that you and others from the 2024 intake have given me , the 2024 intake have given me, and i'm very proud of your support and grant. thank you so very, very much. your experience is really missed around the cabinet table and i'm incredibly grateful for you to be part of
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team cleverly, and we must make sure that we get the experience that we lost at the last general election. and the new mps elected for the first time, and those fantastic candidates who were not elected this year, we must get them on the government benches once again after the next general election. and to do that , we need voters to see that that, we need voters to see that the conservative party is focused on them and not just focused on them and not just focused on them and not just focused on ourselves. the parliamentary party needs to lead by example . we must be lead by example. we must be unified. we must be disciplined and unity is not the easy option. it is the harder option. but we can choose to unite or we can choose to stay in opposition because people don't vote for
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divided parties . they don't divided parties. they don't trust divided parties. they don't even listen to divided parties. so we must unite. if we want the british people to listen to us again. so when they are fed up, as they inevitably will be with starmer's inept high taxing, red tape loving, big state crony filled government, they will look to us again to be the change that they want to see in this country. now now i've spoken on behalf of the government for six years now. i plan to take us back into government. i've been a team player under four different prime ministers, but now i plan to lead the team and i've defended other people's decisions and policies. but now i plan to make those policies.
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and today i will set out my vision for this great country , vision for this great country, and i'll show why i am uniquely suhed and i'll show why i am uniquely suited to unite the party to win at the next general election, and to deliver for the british people once again . we need to people once again. we need to recognise that it's not enough for a conservative leader, just to believe in conservative values . it's not enough just to values. it's not enough just to state those conservative values. we need to sell conservative values to the country once again, because our party is at its best when it provides clear and a positive vision for voters. when we provide the right solutions for the challenges that our country and our world face. let's look back through the history of our great
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party. robert peel saw inequality . he saw the inequality. he saw the inequality. he saw the inequality between those with the wealth to buy staff to protect them and the poor who could not. so he created the metropolitan police to protect the poor . disraeli saw the poor. disraeli saw injustice. he saw the injustice of children doing dangerous work , of children doing dangerous work, drinking disease ridden water. so he brought in the factory act and the public health act. churchill saw fascism and stood up to it. thatcher saw economic defeatism and reversed it that decisiveness is what we need to show now, and i will of course, the challenges of today are different to the challenges of the past, but we must have the courage of our conservative forebears to tackle the great problems of our time. and let me
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set out what i believe are the three great challenges that we face, that we must, and that i will, with your support, tackle head on. the first of these challenges is our deeply unstable world. now, the warning lights were flashing red well before putin's full scale invasion of ukraine, and the sad fact is that there are a few reasons to believe that the world is going to be any safer or more secure any time soon. authoritarian regimes are increasingly trying to undermine our way of life. the freedoms that we cherish, and the international rules that have kept us safe are under threat . kept us safe are under threat. and i have seen the threats that our country face. i have been in charge of m16, of m15, of gchq , charge of m16, of m15, of gchq, ihave charge of m16, of m15, of gchq, i have been to ukraine, i have been to taiwan, to the baltic,
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to the caucasus . i have looked to the caucasus. i have looked at russian soldiers occupying land that isn't theirs. i was the first foreign minister to visit israel after the 7th of october atrocities. now, when grant was secretary of state for defence, he set out a timetable to spend 2.5% of gdp on defence by 2030. but starmer, in an act of vandalism, has scrapped that pledge. now, i supported grant when he made the bold decision then, but i will go further and, as he said, i will commit as prime minister to spend 3% of gdp on . defence. gdp on. defence. because because you cannot penny pinch your way to peace. security is delivered
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through strength by planning for the worst, not hoping for the best. and we will send a signal to our enemies and our allies alike that the uk is prepared, that we will not leave the field and just to put that commitment in perspective, we currently spend less than 2.5% of our gdp on defence, but ten times that much on our health system, welfare system and on pensions. starmer says that we cannot afford to spend more on defence. i say we cannot afford to . not i say we cannot afford to. not the second major challenge that faces us is global migration, and we must restore our
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credibility on this issue to win back the voters that switched to reform and switch to the lib dems and labour, and those that stayed at home as home secretary, i delivered the reforms that are currently cutting net migration by half. i didn't talk tough , i took didn't talk tough, i took action, i negotiated with the chancellor, with the health secretary , with the education secretary, with the education secretary, with the education secretary to achieve the changes in our visa regime, which are currently bringing those numbers down. and we have to be more honest in our conversation about the trade offs with regard to immigration and that means changing how we measure our wealth. it means using gdp per capha wealth. it means using gdp per capita as the metric for our economy, so that the treasure so that the treasury cannot mask low growth with high migration rising capital, rising gdp
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overall is meaningless if the wealth per person is falling. so wealth per person is falling. so we need to control legal migration. and when i was home secretary , i did under my secretary, i did under my leadership, home office applications fell. the backlog was cleared, the grant rate came down, deportations increased . i down, deportations increased. i didn't talk tough. i took . didn't talk tough. i took. action. and when we deal with illegal migration, i stand by what i have always said. we need to have a deterrent . and as to have a deterrent. and as leader, as prime minister i will use my contacts and my reputation with rwanda to resurrect that incredibly important partnership . and more
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important partnership. and more than that , i will rebuild than that, i will rebuild a relationship so badly damaged by labour's arrogant and callous disregard to the diplomatic niceties that bind the to world inform the media that they were scrapping this partnership before they had the courage to inform the rwandan government. thatis inform the rwandan government. that is unacceptable , and that that is unacceptable, and that would never have happened under my leadership . we need to my leadership. we need to recognise there are currently around 280 million people on the move globally, and so we must, of course, address why people move. we have influence on the international stage and we must use it at the un, at the g20, at the g7, at the world bank. we
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must, of course, tackle the drivers of mass movement, war, famine, persecution, economic failure . because in this failure. because in this portfolio, as in so many others, prevention is better than cure . prevention is better than cure. and to those people who we do welcome into our country, we must make it clear our welcome comes with modest but non—negotiable conditions . non—negotiable conditions. tolerance isn't something that you demand of others. it is something that you are duty bound to give . our laws cannot bound to give. our laws cannot be trumped by cultural sensitivities. play . by the sensitivities. play. by the rules, work hard and you can expect our thanks and support. break the rules, abuse our hospitality and you can expect us to take action. the third
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major challenge that we must address is a crisis in the confidence in capitalism . we confidence in capitalism. we handed labour a growing economy , handed labour a growing economy, the fastest economy, growth in the fastest economy, growth in the g7 . but compared to historic the g7. but compared to historic levels and indeed compared to african or asian economic growth rates, we are not doing anywhere near well enough. we need to unlock real growth again, and we need to show young people that free markets, not planned economies, are their friend. we need to turn them into capitalists because too many people think that high taxes help them rather than hold them down. they think that more regulation protects them rather than benefiting incumbent suppliers . protectionism drives suppliers. protectionism drives up costs for them, drives down choice for them , benefits the choice for them, benefits the already rich and harms the aspirational poor. and i will make boosting our economic growth a defining mission of our
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party. and i will make sure selling the benefits of free markets to a new generation is a key part of that , because growth key part of that, because growth does not come from more quangos and nationalising services, it comes from less red tape, lower taxes and a dynamic leadership. and we know this is true because we have evidence. look at docklands under heseltine and margaret thatcher, the olympic park under boris and teesworks under ben houchen. what i saw on the tees valley was incredible, stimulating an estimated 20,000 new jobs , attracting an annual new jobs, attracting an annual £1 billion investment into the regional and local economy. and these low tax, low regulation zones is what i want to see more of around the whole country . we of around the whole country. we used to have a one in, one out
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rule for regulation , but the rule for regulation, but the truth is we strayed from the path of righteousness. so we've got to get back back on track, maybe even go further. having a one in, two out approach to regulation, because we must empower the innovators and the wealth creators, because this son of an entrepreneur will make us the party of business once again . again. so we need to do more to empower the private sector, not the state, to drive our economy. ben houchen has done exactly that in teesside. this is the conservative economic model and churchill, as in so many things, was absolutely right when he said a nation taxing its way to prosperity is like a man standing in a bucket and trying to lift himself up by the handle .
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to lift himself up by the handle. people will vote for starmer's statism if they don't feel that capitalism is working for them. and for many people, especially the young, it isn't working for them. home ownership has been a cornerstone of the conservative party offer since the war, and just as margaret thatcher enabled council tenants to buy their homes in the 1980s, we need to give young people a stake in our society and in our growing economy. that is the conservative. that is the capitalist approach, and it was right that we cut stamp duty for first time buyers. but we should go further . it should be our go further. it should be our mission to abolish stamp duty on homes altogether . homes altogether. it's a bad tax. it stifles
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transactions in an already illiquid housing market. people from downsizing and like all taxes, it ultimately increases the cost to buyers. and of course we need to build lots more homes and we will, but we should be building upwards in our cities rather than outwards. if our georgian forebears could see the beauty in three and four storey houses, then why on earth can't we? so adding an extra storey to a building should enjoy a presumption of planning consent, because it would support small local businesses, would pump money into the local economy and it would be more environmentally and aesthetically sustainable. now we must provide conservative answers to the problems that people face. an unstable world,
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global migration and a crisis in confidence in capitalism . and we confidence in capitalism. and we must get our act together as a party must get our act together as a party to provide the conservative solutions to these problems. the solutions of the left don't, won't and will never work. and when they try to impose them, they harm the very people they are meant to help. so we have to do things differently, and that means being honest and realistic about the role of the state and what it can and should do. and what it can and should do. and what it should not and cannot do . the it should not and cannot do. the state should focus on doing a few things well. not everything badly. now, of course, only the state can provide police forces and armed forces, and both need to be effective and well funded. and we must. and of course , we and we must. and of course, we will support the people who fall on hard times or suffer from ill health. but our welfare budget
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has spiralled out of control and we must bring it down and i will bnng we must bring it down and i will bring it . we must bring it down and i will bring it. down. and we must also be honest about the trade offs. we cannot nationalise all risks or eradicate all difficulties . or eradicate all difficulties. the state should not always be the first port of call. when problems arise, we should enable self—reliance, family first, resilience and community solutions. tax and subsidies cannot be our mantra anymore , so cannot be our mantra anymore, so we must think and act like conservatives once again demonstrate that we understand the challenges that people in our country face now , and our country face now, and provide the solutions to give them a brighter and better future . and we accomplished lots
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future. and we accomplished lots in government. but our divisions and our behaviour obscured our victories and amplified our mistakes. we spent too much time talking tough and not enough time taking action. we spoke lots about what we were going to do, but almost never about why we were going to do it. this is the opposite of how i have acted in my career, and it is the opposite of how i intend to lead. i will tackle the problems in front of us with conservative solutions, and i will make the uk the greatest power in europe strong in defence of our people , strong in defence of our people, our allies and our interests, strong in defence of our values and our principles. strong on the international stage and secure and prosperous at home. i don't accept the shared declinism of starmer and farage, who both believe that our best
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days are behind us. starmer thinks it was better before we left the eu. farage thinks it was better before we joined the eu. they're both wrong . i know eu. they're both wrong. i know that our best years can be ahead of us, but only if we replace this useless labour government. and in order to win again, we need a leader who can unite the party. and i'm the best place to do that because. i'm the best place to do that. because to command loyalty, you have to have displayed loyalty. and i have always served the leader of the day , never briefed leader of the day, never briefed against colleagues and focused relentlessly on delivering for the british people. and in order to win again, we need to unite around conservative principles.
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and i'm the best place to do that, because i've never chopped and changed my political position or philosophy. i have actually reformed public services . i've actually cut services. i've actually cut spending. i've driven better performance. when i led the london fire authority , when london fire authority, when i led the foreign, commonwealth and development office, when i led at the home office. and as grant said, when i led as chairman of the party, helping to deliver a record majority at the 2019 general election, and in order to win again, we need a leader who can communicate with conservative voters, those voters that we kept , those voters that we kept, those voters that we kept, those voters that we lost, and those who will be voting for us, perhaps for the first time ever, at the next general election . at the next general election. and i know that i'm the best placed to do that. i am the most experienced and effective communicator that the party has got , and you communicator that the party has got, and you cannot communicate your policies or our values. if
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your policies or our values. if you hide from the media. so i know that i can unite the conservative party with sound conservative principles delivered in a positive , delivered in a positive, optimistic and energetic way to show that we can get us back to where we need to be. i know that i am the best placed to lead our party as leader of the opposition, and then our country as prime minister, and i know that i as prime minister, and i know thati can as prime minister, and i know that i can lead us to that better future. and the time is now. there is no time to lose. so let's get to work. thank you . so let's get to work. thank you. >> okay, well, there is james cleverly, former home secretary, launching his leadership campaign for tory leader. he had three overarching themes, didn't he, in that speech, he talked about an unsafe world, the need to boost defence spending to 3%. he talked about immigration, wants to bring back the rwanda deportation plan. that's a
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promise. interesting what he said about gdp per capita being so important when assessing the impact of immigration, and also spoke about a crisis of confidence when it comes to capitalism. >> yeah, i'm bringing down the welfare budget as well. i think it was particularly interesting for me where he said about how gdp per capita so how wealthy we all are as individuals, and that that should be the main driver of whether or not immigration is actually working. that should be the main driver of our economics going forward, and we should not keep masking that with an overall bigger picture of how many people we've welcomed into britain . he also said that laws britain. he also said that laws shouldn't be trumped by cultural sensitivity. so if somebody arrives over here and then they we shouldn't be bending to their whims, i suppose. i think a lot of that will be quite popular just on a personal level, though. did you find that speech particularly dynamic? was it zippy ? was he the kind of person zippy? was he the kind of person you would follow into battle? is he the kind of person you think is going to be able to hit sir keir starmer with zingers at the despatch box? i thought he grew
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into the speech , and i think he into the speech, and i think he came across as what i suspect he probably is, which is quite a nice guy, but i'm not sure he's got that. he's got that winning personality. >> well, it's an interesting one, isn't it? one of the themes that we've heard from, from most of these leadership contenders is uniting the party. people don't listen to divided parties . don't listen to divided parties. people don't vote for divided parties. james cleverly certainly thinks he's the man to unite the party. he spoke about how he never briefed against colleagues. he spoke about how he didn't say nasty things in the media about colleagues or tried to undermine them. et cetera, et cetera. he's a loyal person . that's his pitch to the person. that's his pitch to the parliamentary party, because he's got to get the mps on side, and he's got to get the members on side by before he even thinks about getting the country on side. we're going to catch up with the former government adviser, special adviser, i should say james price, who i believe is still hanging on the line for us and has been listening to james cleverly. james, what did you make of that? three strong themes ? that? three strong themes? >> yeah, i thought it was a
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really good speech. i was really interested, patrick, just to hear you say there that you didn't think he came across as as the kind of dynamic leader necessarily. i wonder if this is a sort of tonal shift from from james cleverly , because he's james cleverly, because he's known as being really fun, really loud. he mentioned in that speech that he believes he's the party's best communicator. he's full of jokes. when you meet him in person, often quite rude ones, perhaps from his army, army background days. and so perhaps this is him trying to kind of change and adopt a slightly different tone, maybe a prime ministerial tone, and would be interesting to see if that works , interesting to see if that works, if that's landed well or not with your viewers, because one of his great strengths is that he's such a personable, normal bloke. i can't repeat some of the anecdotes of stories i've shared with him. maybe this time of day, but he is very funny, very human, very cool guy. and so interesting that james, you did get into a bit of a bit of trouble not that long ago for making a joke about, spiking his wife's drink. >> he also, he also got clobbered at the despatch for
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box allegedly saying that. and again, i can't repeat this, but the rwanda scheme was bonkers to paraphrase that what he said there is he bring back rwanda. he'd do a lot to, claw back diplomatic relations with the rwandan government because arrogantly, labour decided to tell the media they were going to scrap it before they told rwanda. do you think bringing back rwanda as a winner , back rwanda as a winner, including the time? >> i think we'll see by the time the next election comes around that there may even be some other european countries who have adopted similar policies when it comes to this fundamentally , doesn't matter if fundamentally, doesn't matter if it's rwanda or whatever it is, but you need to have some kind of disincentive for people entering countries illegally. and, you know, the idea of being sent somewhere else to be processed, that's a disincentive. the stronger one, of course, is something that labour have said that they're going to scrap, which is this idea that if you enter the united kingdom illegally, you will never , ever, under any will never, ever, under any circumstances, be allowed to stay here. and that's a really, really powerful disincentive that labour have got rid of . so that labour have got rid of. so if it goes hand in hand with
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that, i think it will be a winning policy from him. i think one of the other interesting things is that, you know, he can boast, unlike some other people, that he has been able to get migration numbers down does make you wonder why of course rishi sunak went so late with the election. my biggest concern and we talked about this just before his speech. i think one of the big underrated issues that the next conservative leader and hopefully prime minister, as far as i'm concerned, will have to face is the ability to make the civil service get things done. and i think that takes a lot of quite major fundamental reform that will be quite boring, quite technical. i wonder if mr cleverly , because he's been cleverly, because he's been successful in the home office in getting migration numbers down, thinks, no, no, it's okay. you just need someone like me in to order do it and i can make the system work. and i think that would be wrong if he comes to that kind of interpretation. >> well, didn't he also, over overegg what he was able to do in in the home office with these, these changes on immigration, he appeared to claim and correct me if i'm wrong. he appeared to claim that he cut it in half or put in place the measures to cut it in half, or where's the evidence for that? >> i think that there's a lot of
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fun that can always be had with numbers, aren't there? we're seeing fewer ukrainians coming, seeing fewer ukrainians coming, seeing fewer ukrainians coming, seeing fewer hong kongers, fewer afghan translators, which which accounted for some of this. and i think a lot of it is, of course, whether you include student numbers in this cap. and it's not just about the headline numbers of people coming, it's people coming and then not leaving again when they're supposed to. and the kind of fundamental reforms there. it's interesting that almost all of the candidates are now talking about immigration, though i think that's very, very important. and some of them have obviously got experience further back in their family of the good that this country can bring to migrants . and it was interesting migrants. and it was interesting that he was laying down a bit of a marker of saying, when you come to this country, you have to be tolerant yourself rather than demand things of others. i think that was an excellent point to be made. yeah, exactly. >> look, he did say, though, you can expect us to take strong action. and i know that everyone i think of our viewers will have been shouting at the television screens going, are you going to tell us what that action is? because if we can't deport people and we're not locking them up, then what's going to happen? just to zoom out? final question to you, i think, james time wise, but the bigger picture here, the latest opinion polls here that i've seen anyway by bmg research show that labour is now down to a lead of 4% in
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the polls. so labour on 30%, the conservatives on 26%, reform on 19%. bear in mind that there is not currently an opposition. you know, could we be looking genuinely at a one term government here? >> i mean, goodness me, i hope so , but it depends if we're so, but it depends if we're we've said this earlier on, is it the fact that labour are just getting in all the difficult stuff as early as possible and then offering people, you know, goodies and things? oh, look, haven't things got better under our watch in sort of four and a half years time is the famous anecdote about the iron lady herself. she'd be told opinion polls midway through her parliament said, no, we're not far enough behind right now because she knew that you had to do things that were in the short term, unpalatable and unpopular in order to get lasting change. but she was doing big structural reforms, the kind we need to have, whereas labour seem to be just taking people's money and giving it to trade unions and not much else. i really hope we can do it. and i think, frankly, all the people we've got in this election for the conservative leadership so far are coming out
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with great ideas. most of them seem to have diagnosed some of the fundamental problems, and they do seem to be making more sense than all the previous tory prime ministers we've had for a while, and they've all mentioned are the people listening. >> they want people to start listening again to the conservatives, thank you very much indeed. james price, former special adviser in the last conservative government. well, we've got lots more coming up. we will continue on the tory leadership, but we're also going to be talking about the winter fuel allowance. should there be a vote in parliament. labour don't want one. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on gb news . news. >> time for your latest weather update here on gb news from the met office. big thunderstorms likely in places this afternoon, by no means everywhere. catching a downpour, but where they are forming and dropping a lot of rain in a short space of time. it's a bit of a messy picture with low pressure sitting across the country, but also a whole tangle of weather fronts all
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drifting up from the south. that's why it's still quite warm and humid. we are seeing some big downpours developing this afternoon, particularly over parts of mid and east wales into the west midlands and especially northeast scotland. much of eastern england. staying dry may well brighten up here and still quite a warm and humid feel. 24, maybe 25, in 1 or 2 places. it's cooler where we've got the cloud and the outbreaks of rain , and the outbreaks of rain, particularly persistent over western scotland, but it's really in the north—east of scotland, where we're looking at some pretty nasty thunderstorms breaking out and spreading slowly northwards. a lot of spray surface water on the roads here, the potential for some flooding as well. the rain maybe not as heavy for the west, but it is still a pretty damp day across western scotland and the east of northern ireland. then another zone where we could catch some big thunderstorms. parts of wales and the west midlands especially. so again, that could cause some disruption. the thunderstorm warning remains in place until midnight. we'll see them drifting further north, perhaps into parts of northern england dunng into parts of northern england during the evening time as well,
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september. i'm patrick christys and i'm emily carver . so the and i'm emily carver. so the on the continent to fend off the threat of snake oil. py.)ulists . on the continent to fend off the threat of snake oil. p1. so sts . on the continent to fend off the threat of snake oil. p1. so the. and i'm emily carver. so the race for the next tory leader race for the next tory leader has absolutely kicked off today. has absolutely kicked off today. kemi badenoch was the first to kemi badenoch was the first to go out, but refused to say go out, but refused to say whether the level of immigration whether the level of immigration she'd like to see would. well, she'd like to see would. well, she'd like to see would. well, she didn't want to put a number she'd like to see would. well, she didn't want to put a number on it. put it that way. on it. put it that way. >> yeah. didn't want to put a >> yeah. didn't want to put a number on it anyway. next up, number on it anyway. next up, shadow home secretary james shadow home secretary james cleverly. he vowed to bring back the rwanda deterrent and said he cleverly. he vowed to bring back the rwanda deterrent and said he was uniquely suited to unite his was uniquely suited to unite his party and win the next general party and win the next general election. do people want rwanda election. do people want rwanda back and dodging a vote? back and dodging a vote? >> labour are accused of hiding >> labour are accused of hiding from scrutiny as mps are now from scrutiny as mps are now demanding a vote on the demanding a vote on the scrapping of the winter fuel scrapping of the winter fuel allowance for millions of allowance for millions of pensioners. pensioners. >> yes, and rise of the right. >> yes, and rise of the right. germany's right wing germany's right wing anti—immigration party, the afd, anti—immigration party, the afd, storms to victory in a key state storms to victory in a key state election this just days after election this just days after keir starmer urged progressives keir starmer urged progressives on the continent to fend off the on the continent to fend off the threat of snake oil. populists . threat of snake oil. populists .
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threat of snake oil. populists. >> yeah, so two tory big hitters have set their stalls out today. kemi badenoch, though, did refuse to put a number on the amount of immigration she would find acceptable. many people will think , well, we've had will think, well, we've had quotas in the past and they've failed. but meanwhile james cleverly, he also took a strong view, though, on immigration, didn't he had a couple of bits and bobs to say he did. >> he spoke about how, you know, the treasury pulls on the lever of immigration and they say it's fantastic for gdp. we need it for gdp. but actually it's gdp per capita that he says we need to
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831??? things like banning things like takeaways near schools. or what about the shops that are already near the schools, they're going to have to shut down now and there's all sorts of stuff going on. smoke outside a nightclub? yeah, potentially outside a nightclub . potentially outside a nightclub. >> can't have a vape, not a disposable one anyway. >> so renegotiate a deal with the european union that
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presumably also won't be put into parliament. into parliament. >> oh, and now they want to get >> oh, and now they want to get involved with your oasis involved with your oasis tickets. oh, yeah. no, you can't tickets. oh, yeah. no, you can't charge any more than what they charge any more than what they say. maybe. well, they're going say. maybe. well, they're going to be looking at dynamic pricing to be looking at dynamic pricing anyway. so that's the sort of a anyway. so that's the sort of a theme of today. there's lots of theme of today. there's lots of control going on isn't there. control going on isn't there. let us know your thoughts. let us know your thoughts. gbnews.com/yoursay. but yes, that big question whether there gbnews.com/yoursay. but yes, that big question whether there should be a vote on the winter should be a vote on the winter fuel allowance. some of you fuel allowance. some of you saying there's no point, they'll saying there's no point, they'll win it anyway. but perhaps it win it anyway. but perhaps it does need a debate. does need a debate. >> i'm not so sure. well, >> i'm not so sure. well, talking of control, someone talking of control, someone who's always in control of your who's always in control of your bulletins is tatiana, and she bulletins is tatiana, and she has them now . has them now . has them now. >> patrick. thank you very much. has them now. >> patrick. thank you very much. and good afternoon. the top and good afternoon. the top stories this hour. leadership stories this hour. leadership contender james cleverly has contender james cleverly has launched his tory bid this launched his tory bid this afternoon, vowing to bring back afternoon, vowing to bring back the rwanda plan, as he also said the rwanda plan, as he also said conservative answers are needed conservative answers are needed to solve the most challenging problems facing our country. mr cleverly highlighted the need for us to remake the argument for us to remake the argument for capitalism to boost economic
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do it pleased that we're able to do it pleased that we're able to do it so quickly . so quickly . so quickly. >> from today, the government so quickly. >> from today, the government will fund 15 hours per week of will fund 15 hours per week of free childcare for eligible free childcare for eligible working parents whose children working parents whose children are between nine months old and are between nine months old and two years old. the 15 hours per two years old. the 15 hours per week is in addition to an week is in addition to an existing offer to parents of two existing offer to parents of two year olds and 30 hours of free year olds and 30 hours of free childcare, already offered to childcare, already offered to parents of children aged three parents of children aged three and four. however, concerns have and four. however, concerns have continued to be raised about the continued to be raised about the capacity of the sector to absorb capacity of the sector to absorb the uptick in childcare places, the uptick in childcare places, with an extra 85,000 places with an extra 85,000 places needed by next year to complete needed by next year to complete the rollout . now, an israeli the rollout . now, an israeli the rollout. now, an israeli the rollout. now, an israeli court has ruled that a general court has ruled that a general strike that shut much of the strike that shut much of the country's economy must end this country's economy must end this afternoon. israel's entire afternoon. israel's entire economy has been on strike since economy has been on strike since the morning in a bid to pressure the morning in a bid to pressure the morning in a bid to pressure the morning in a bid to pressure the country's prime minister, the country's prime minister, benjamin netanyahu, into benjamin netanyahu, into accepting a gaza ceasefire deal accepting a gaza ceasefire deal after six hostages were shot after six hostages were shot deadin deadin after six hostages were shot dead in gaza. idf soldiers after six hostages were shot dead in gaza. idf soldiers recovered the bodies of the recovered the bodies of the hostages, who israel says were hostages, who israel says were
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killed moments before troops killed moments before troops reached them making that reached them . back home, the reached them. back home, the department for work and pensions is launching a week of action to encourage the elderly to check their eligibility for pension credit, worth up to £3,900 annually. the campaign will involve charities and local authorities urging the families, friends and neighbours of elderly people to ask them to look into whether they could benefit. chancellor rachel reevesis benefit. chancellor rachel reeves is seeking to soften the blow from her cut on the winter fuel allowance, with a drive to encourage more pensioners to take up benefits. they may not know that they're entitled to. the prime minister has said today that he doesn't want to cut winter fuel allowance, but called it a tough decision made to stabilise the economy , and to stabilise the economy, and the government has promised to look into dynamic ticket pricing after the cost of tickets for the oasis reunion tour more than doubled while on sale. culture secretary lisa nandy described the selling of inflated oasis tickets as depressing. on saturday, fans of the world
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famous band sat in virtual queues for hours on end , hoping queues for hours on end, hoping to get their hands on tickets to one of the shows next year. however, when they finally got through, many were met with ticket prices far higher than face value. some people have expressed their anger on social media, as tickets worth £148 were being sold for £355 on ticketmaster within hours of release . and those are the release. and those are the latest gb news headlines. for now i'm tatiana sanchez. more from me in half an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . slash alerts. >> okay. welcome along. so at loads on today we are going to start with the big news from a couple of the tory leadership
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hopefuls that we had kemi badenoch earlier this morning setting her stall out. we've had james cleverly as well today. so james cleverly as well today. so james cleverly as well today. so james cleverly has now basically come out and said quite a lot of things really. one about reducing immigration, how we need to make sure that we are stronger on people who come here and expect to impose maybe their own kind of culture and set of norms. we need to be looking at gdp per capita, all of that stuff we're going to get stuck into. keir starmer soon, though, because he's facing serious allegations about ignoring the winter fuel payments, not putting that to parliament, running scared. but i can play you now a clip of our political correspondent katherine forster putting a question to james cleverly. just a few moments ago, >> you talked about young people. we know now that people aren't likely to vote for the conservatives until they're well in their 50s, more likely to vote until they're well in their 50s, you've mentioned stamp duty, but how are you going to get the under 50 and back looking at the conservatives
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because a cut in stamp duty , i because a cut in stamp duty, i mean, many people will say that's just going to put prices up. it's going to be expensive. it's going to take more than that, isn't it? >> so taking a big tax burden off a financial transaction will not push the price up quite, quite the opposite, and the point is that there are two things that we need to address when we talk to younger voters and we try to attract younger voters . one is policy, actually, voters. one is policy, actually, and i've given an indication of my desired direction of travel easing regulation and red tape , easing regulation and red tape, reducing the cost of products and services so that young people particularly have got a credible chance to get on the housing ladder, making sure we build and we do need to build, and we do need to build up where there are already transport links, where there's infrastructure , where there's infrastructure, where there's employment, learning from our forebears who understood that one and two storey houses are
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optimistic. let's focus on them, attract them to the party, listen to their voices and deliver on their aspirations. and that's what i would do. all right. >> really interesting. that and another big thing that james cleverly did say that he was he wanted to remove stamp duty on all properties, try to get people on the property ladder. i do think that that probably will have a massive, massive impact, especially when it does come to younger people, people who are by and large really struggling to get on the property ladder. that would be a really big incentive. it will be, but as long as you build more houses , long as you build more houses, otherwise it will stoke demand. >> and yeah, property prices could go up as a result. anyway rival kemi badenoch has launched her campaign to as she wants to be the leader of the conservative party. she had a speech late earlier this morning. now, she says, the tories brought on their own downfall, but she did refuse to put a number on what she would see as an acceptable level of immigration. >> at a cap of ten thousands of tens of thousands we need to ask
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ourselves , why didn't that work? ourselves, why didn't that work? what will make another promise ? what will make another promise? something went wrong there. so it's not just about throwing out numbers and throwing out targets or throwing out targets . or throwing out targets. something is wrong with the system. so i'm talking about the stall out, etc. i do wonder if keir starmer has made about the system. so i'm talking about the system. people who are throwing system. so i'm talking about the system. so i'm talking about the system. people who are throwing out numbers and saying, oh well, out numbers and saying, oh well, we'll leave the echr and so on, we'll leave the echr and so on, or giving you easy answers. that or giving you easy answers. that is how we got in this mess in is how we got in this mess in the first place. i'm not going the first place. i'm not going to do that . to do that . to do that. >> okay, well, kemi badenoch, to do that. >> okay, well, kemi badenoch, they're talking about the they're talking about the processes and who's within the processes and who's within the home office. rather than putting home office. rather than putting a number on what she'd like to a number on what she'd like to see. immigration. now the first see. immigration. now the first hopeful in the leadership hopeful in the leadership contest will be eliminated this contest will be eliminated this week. then another one will be week. then another one will be eliminated. and then four will eliminated. and then four will go to the tory. conference and go to the tory. conference and try and garner some votes there. try and garner some votes there. anyway, we're going to speak to anyway, we're going to speak to a former labour mp. a former labour mp. >> yes, we are indeed. and sean >> yes, we are indeed. and sean simon. sean, thank you very simon. sean, thank you very much. great to have you on the much. great to have you on the show . look, you know, we're show . look, you know, we're show. look, you know, we're heanng show. look, you know, we're hearing now all the various show. look, you know, we're heanng show. look, you know, we're hearing now all the various different tories setting their different tories setting their stall out, etc. i do wonder if stall out, etc. i do wonder if
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keir starmer has made it keir starmer has made it quite easy for them though. just do the opposite of whatever he's done. the opposite of whatever he's done . he's now slumped in the done. he's now slumped in the polls. he's only 4% ahead of the tories and he hasn't got an opposition yet. what's going on? >> it's really difficult for them isn't it, for i almost feel sorry for them. it's so hard for them to get a hearing. we just had an election
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them to get a hearing. we just had ineedzction x . ’ . them to get a hearing. we just hadyneedtoon x . 7: them to get a hearing. we just had need to lookwf . . 7: them to get a hearing. we just hadyneedtolookto . 7: them to get a hearing. we just hadyneedtolookto the . 7: them to get a hearing. we just had need to look to the future 7 . they need to look to the future and think about what, what it is that might tempt people to vote tory in 5 or 10 years time. well, i mean, but looking at the polls, the labour party aren't doing too well under keir starmer's leadership since he was voted in four points between the conservatives and the labour party. >> now, surely the conservatives should be focusing on what labouris should be focusing on what labour is doing wrong. if the, you know, the public, the polling has gone, gone, gone south. >> well, i think, i think the labour leadership will be relatively relaxed about that poll, >> just a few weeks after kind of winning the election by, by a landslide and with many years to go before the next election, the, the, the, the tory leadership hopefuls, as i say, they've got a really difficult task, and actually they've now james cleverly kemi these are
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quite and quite a few. james cleverly kemi these are quite and quite a few . they're quite and quite a few. they're quite and quite a few. they're quite thoughtful people and you can see them trying to have an intelligent conversation. but but they're having it in a vacuum. i mean they've got what, 120 mp5 vacuum. i mean they've got what, 120 mps and they've constructed this weird elaborate multi—part system. i don't know if that was designed to try and make it a bit more interesting where they're going to chip from four till from six till four, and then after the conference, it'll go from 4 to 2. the conference, you know, is going to be half empty this year. i think . and empty this year. i think. and the really hard part for them is just finding anybody in the country who cares. okay about anything. >> all right. well, look, this is obviously the process that they decided to go at. and we'll be keeping you up to date on all of that. but i'm quite keen to get your views on whether or not keir starmer is absolutely running scared now, essentially, of old people , because he wants of old people, because he wants to scrap the winter fuel payments allowance for millions of pensioners. people are saying it wasn't in the manifesto . it's
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it wasn't in the manifesto. it's going to affect around 10 million people or so. why doesn't he put that to a vote in parliament? >> well, it's just it's just not the it's not the kind of , the it's not the kind of, financial measure that normally would get put to a debate separately and put to a special vote in parliament. it's just it's just going to be treated in the normal way that these things normally are. obviously, it's the job of the tories and the lib dems to say, oh, we want a debate. we want to vote on it. they say that for everything and it's , you know, routine that the it's, you know, routine that the government says, well, no, we'll we'll just carry on doing things the way that they are. >> it's something, sean, that nobody got the opportunity to vote for. it's something that many people would go as far as to suggest that he lied to us about, because if they knew they were going to do it, which they must have done because they've doneit must have done because they've done it so quickly in office, we should have been given the opportunity to vote for it. it's something that affects around 10 million people. that's, roughly speaking, 1 in 7 people in the uk. that is the kind of thing
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that surely there should be a vote on. >> they they've they've just had they've just we've just had an election in which there was very clearly a vote in which not on this day, in which the absolute central proposition of the labour party was, we're going to have to take some very difficult choices. the country is in an absolute economic no, it wasn't . absolute economic no, it wasn't. >> that's what keir starmer stood up and said in his in his recent speech to the country. it was all about change. it was all about, you know, positive, positive. get rid of the tories. everything will be fantastic before the election. >> i'm afraid you weren't listening during the election, if that's what you think. no, i think i was very clear during the election. it was very clear before the election. >> so you think the tone hasn't changed? the tone from keir starmer has not changed at all. he was just as negative. he was telling the country that things are going to get worse before they get better. if he's elected. was that really what he was telling the country? >> it was? if you go back and read the speeches of rachel reeves and keir starmer before, not just during but before and dunng not just during but before and during the election, you will see that it's absolutely
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consistently what they've been saying for at least 6 to 9 months. it's completely consistent. they always said, i mean , you had lucy powell, you mean, you had lucy powell, you had lucy powell today saying, well, saying that if they hadn't got rid of the winter fuel allowance, then the economy would essentially crash as a result of this, at the same time as dishing out, you know, huge pay as dishing out, you know, huge pay offers to the public sector, it doesn't make sense. it makes perfect sense. i think what she was saying was, if we hadn't started the process of making the difficult choices that need to be making or finding some of the savings that need to be made, and of finding the to money invest in the economy, which is where we get the growth. that is what is used to pay growth. that is what is used to pay all the benefits for everybody. then our, then our. >> it's remarkable. sean. i mean , >> it's remarkable. sean. i mean, if nothing. if nothing has changed. and they were saying this all along, then there would be no need for them to be now blaming everything on this black hole that they've found. and presumably the polls wouldn't be tanking in his approval ratings
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wouldn't be tanking because everyone would be thinking, well, he's actually just doing everything he told us about, wouldn't he? and i don't remember him saying anything about banning smoking and wide open parks or outside nightclubs. >> i think what you've i think what i think, what you've just encapsulated there is the thing that has changed is that it is even worse than they realised. and if the tone has changed, it's even more gloomy than it was. but it was very pragmatic and, worried before and during the election. and even more so now that they've seen the books. >> well, okay. so are we, sean. thank you very, very much. thank you. former labour mp sean simon there. take care. >> all right. >> all right. >> and we'll have to do a little montage of what they said before the election. and and what they're saying now certainly got a bit more miserable, hasn't it. anyway this is good afternoon britain on gb news now coming up. we're going to be talking about what's happening in germany because the right wing anti—immigration party over there has stormed to victory in a key state election. this is very interesting indeed . what very interesting indeed. what could it mean for germany and europe? >> yeah. no indeed. so it's a
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it's 125 and it's125 and you are watching good afternoon britain . now good afternoon britain. now german politics has seen a shock result. i'm not entirely sure. it's a huge shock for everybody at the weekend as the right wing alternative for germany won in the eastern state of thuringia. very good. >> now the afd won almost a third of the vote, putting them nine points ahead of the conservative cdu and far in front of germany's three governing parties. now this is a result which will be a massive blow for the german chancellor olaf scholz, who has labelled it as bitter. however, it has little hope of forming a government in thuringia because all the other parties are unlikely to want to work with the afd. so it's very interesting indeed. what's
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happening over in germany. >> okay, so we are now joined by editor in chief news julian reichelt, who is going to discuss how this will affect europe. thank you very much for joining us. great to have you on the show. now, just last week, i think it was actually our prime minister was meeting your chancellor, olaf scholz, and he was talking about progressives of europe unite. and then you know, here we go. the afd secure a massive win . and are a massive win. and are progressives on the way out in germany? do you think? >> oh, they certainly are. i mean, i was on your show a few days ago discussing this meeting between chancellor olaf scholz and your prime minister, and that they were talking about a big agreement. they wanted to sign together. and what i told you is, you know, olaf scholz will be on his way out a few days from now. and that was delivered to him yesterday . delivered to him yesterday. major blow for the administration here in germany. so the right wing afd in thuringia, just to put this into perspective, collected twice as many votes as the three parties that make up the whole
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administration, the coalition here in germany, they were completely blown away. two of them actually were dropped out of parliament because they didn't cross a 5% threshold. so they're not even in parliament anymore. so that is a major change. it's a major change to olaf schultz's government. it's a major blow to him. it's a major blow to his progressive and pro migration policies, because that's what it was all about. this election was not so much about the afd or the character standing for the afd. it was about one topic only, and thatis it was about one topic only, and that is illegal migration. >> and that is the afd's policy platform, is it not? what are they putting forward to the german people? is it just immigration? >> that's pretty much everything i mean, there are components that come with it. it's housing. you know, it's the social system, everything. it's crime , system, everything. it's crime, everything that is affected by migration. but their main talking point is illegal migration. just to remind your viewers, it's been 300,000 people coming into germany illegally, mainly from islamist
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countries . another 300,000 will countries. another 300,000 will be coming this year. and it has become a huge topic with, you know, crime shooting up terrorist attacks. just a few days ago, three people being murdered by an illegal immigrant from syria. so that's what the afd is all about. but that is also what the cdu is about. the conservative party. the thing with this afd victory is this depending on where you stand politically, the good news is nothing will happen because they will not govern all the other parties will build a coalition around them. the bad news is nothing will happen. you know the thing about illegal immigration will not change because the conservatives have solemnly promised to not work with the afd. that, however, would be the only majority for what most people by now desperately want. less migration. a protected border. they will not work together. so the cdu, the conservatives, are now looking for another coalition on the very left. you know, they are now working with the, the, the heirs to the
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former east german state party, the former communist. suddenly the former communist. suddenly the conservatives are turning towards the communists, just to prevent the afd getting into power. and basically the people from getting what they want. >> people. you summed it up . you >> people. you summed it up. you know, there's a vote on this stuff, and politicians can't just keep ignoring it. yeah. >> i mean, the way this has been framed in the british press is that this is the first time a far right party in germany has won a key election since the nazi era. that's how it's in, in the press. those are the headunes the press. those are the headlines that this is making. is that a fair assessment of what we're seeing here? is it a nazi era style party? >> well, i would always you know, i love the british tabloid press, i love the british press. and i understand that they will never miss an opportunity on making a nazi story out of something . and i get that. and something. and i get that. and i understand that i'm a tabloid journalist, but this party is a is a, you know, in some parts ugly, is a, you know, in some parts ugly , right wing, anti—illegal
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ugly, right wing, anti—illegal immigration party. it has nothing to do with the german past, you know, making that comparison is obscene towards what has happened . it's pure what has happened. it's pure relativism towards the german past. and obviously it is being framed like that to prevent people from getting what they desperately want. and not only afd voters. you have majorities of 70, 80% who desperately ask the german government, regional local governments to stop the flow of illegal immigration to germany because it's coming from islamist country. it's male only. all the things we've been discussing for years, and it's violent. it is violent, it is too violent. so but but, you know , obviously this kind of know, obviously this kind of this immigration is going against a kind of a dogma of the political left that, you know, migration is something good in itself. so they will try everything to prevent people from getting what they want and that of course, you know, is their most favourite tactic ,
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their most favourite tactic, making these, you know, nazi comparisons, calling them nazis . comparisons, calling them nazis. it is not a nazi thing to stop illegal immigration. and it's not an afd thing, only it has become, you know, the main demand of a vast, literally the largest majority i have ever seen. and i've covered politics for a while in germany for something we're, you know, around 70 to 80% protect those borders. >> well , this is it. you know, >> well, this is it. you know, this is the thing. >> you're not getting it. you're not getting it. the more people vote to the right, the more left is the government that you will get. and i think you know what i'm talking about. and that is thatis i'm talking about. and that is that is becoming a problem because people are not voting for parties . they are voting for for parties. they are voting for this disconnect. >> they want. yeah. the disconnect. julian, thank you very much. i i hope to talk to you again very soon. i'm sorry. we're just out of time now, but thank you. that's julian reichelt there, yeah. and he's got a point i don't claim to know the deep seated intricacies of the afd. maybe there are a few fruity characters in there and all of that kind of stuff, but the general tone right across europe and certainly here
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in britain, as we're all well aware of, is this this notion , aware of, is this this notion, isn't it, that if you are essentially in any way looking to clamp down on illegal immigration or, dare i say it, legal immigration as well, that, you know, there's the there's the whiff of you being labelled far right or a nazi or something, isn't there? so it doesn't really seem to be much of a surprise that that's happening on the continent as well. >> yeah. i mean, olaf scholz himself has had to speak tough on immigration in recent days. anyway, we've got lots more coming up on today's show. we're going to be talking about a school absence fines. should you be fined just for taking your kid out of school? you know, it's a holiday. it's a holiday. and labour apparently want to ban . takeaways near schools. not ban. takeaways near schools. not sure how that will work there. >> anything they don't want to ban? should we just ban it all? i think it was glynis who i had on my show on friday night who said, we'll be paying for oxygen soon anyway. >> patrick, thank you and good afternoon. the top stories leadership contenderjames
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leadership contender james cleverly has launched his tory leadership bid today, vowing to bnng leadership bid today, vowing to bring back the rwanda plan, as he also said, conservative answers are needed to solve the most challenging problems facing our country. cleverly highlighted the need for us to remake the argument for capitalism to boost economic growth and give younger people a stake in society. he also said he would increase defence spending to 3% of gdp and on illegal migration, mr cleverly said we need to have deterrent. >> i will use my contacts and my reputation with rwanda to resurrect that incredibly important partnership . and more important partnership. and more than that , i will rebuild than that, i will rebuild a relationship so badly damaged by labour's arrogant and callous disregard to the diplomatic niceties that bind the world to inform the media that they were scrapping this partnership
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before they had the courage to inform the rwandan government is unacceptable . unacceptable. >> kemi badenoch also launched her tory leadership campaign today, calling for change in the conservative party. the shadow communities secretary and contender to replace rishi sunak says her party has to focus on renewal to be ready to return to power . mr badenoch used the power. mr badenoch used the speech to also accuse labour of pulling the wool over the eyes of the public, insisting that it's of the public, insisting that wsfime of the public, insisting that it's time for something new. the prime minister has said the scrapping of single phrase inspection headline grades for schools in england will be a relief for parents. previously, ofsted awarded one of four headune ofsted awarded one of four headline grades to schools. it inspects and those are outstanding. good requires improvement and inadequate. the department for education says for inspections this academic yean for inspections this academic year, though , parents will see year, though, parents will see four grades across the existing subcategories, those being quality of education, behaviour and attitudes, personal development and leadership and
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management. the prime minister says it will hold schools accountable , and the wife of accountable, and the wife of a conservative councillor has pleaded guilty to publishing written material to stir up racial hatred . racial hatred 41 racial hatred. racial hatred 41 year old childminder lucy connolly called for mass deportations and attacks on hotels, housing asylum seekers in a post on x on the day that three little girls were killed in southport, the post has now been deleted from her account and she later apologised for acting on false and malicious information. lucy is the wife of conservative councillor raymond connolly and those are the latest gb news headlines. for now i'm tatiana sanchez. more in half an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com forward alerts
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>> well good afternoon britain. it is now 139 and a nice smile in there. yeah, grinning away anyway. labour's battle against bad health is going up a level, as they plan to ban takeaways from being opened up near schools. >> this proposal follows on from the idea to ban outdoor smoking as labour seem to be committed to. well, they would say , to. well, they would say, improving the health of all ages and many other people would just say desperately trying to asphyxiate the life out of us. but is this a good move, or is it just more of keir starmer trying to control us and control us? who've we got on this then? >> we have got the wonderful former presenter of fat families and political commentator steve miller . steve, and political commentator steve miller. steve, thank you very much indeed. now you think i think my producer told me that you're in favour of this. you think that it's a good thing to ban these outlets from outside
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schools ? schools? >> i think i don't just think it's a good thing. i think it's a blooming damn excellent thing. and i'll tell you why. because for kids, child obesity , we have for kids, child obesity, we have a problem. a nearly a quarter of children aged 10 or 11 are now obese. and we've nearly got 1 in 10 in reception school that are obese as well . this is really obese as well. this is really concerning. and the one thing that's very important for children is to set an example and to set an example of health. now, that does include making sure that they don't get this access to takeaways. we've got to remember food is hypnotic. you see it. you smell it and it becomes, you know, it becomes very, attractive. the other thing i would say, though , i thing i would say, though, i balance that with parent power. we do have many parents that are responsible. we have many parents that can't be bothered. and, you know , to manage and, you know, to manage obesity, you do have to look at the environment. so what we're not what what i think the
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government's not saying is they're not going to ban all takeaways. what they are saying is they're going to limit the amount of openings of takeaways. that to me, to be fair, and i'm no keir starmer fan, but what i would say is that is common sense. good common sense. can i also say that something else, though, because there's a couple of other points, is, well, one of other points, is, well, one of the key points is that role modelling in the classroom is important . so modelling in the classroom is important. so it might not be very popular to say it, but less fat teachers? yes. less fat teachers as well. >> 100%, 100%. and also i'm very sorry about all of this, but keir starmer is not the picture of health. and i'll keep saying that unless i'm blue in the face, it will be i'm sorry. it will be like boris johnson saying he's going to ban cheese and wine. okay, you know, if i'm going to have a bloke there stand in front of me desperately trying to tell me that he wants to take the burden off the nhs, despite being able to afford private healthcare himself and refusing to do it, being able to afford private healthcare for his loved ones and refusing to let them do it. and being. and i will say this now, keir starmer
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is overweight, keir starmer is oven is overweight, keir starmer is over. keir starmer is overweight. >> he's not. >> he's not. >> yes we have that. you can ask david. you can ask you can ask peter mandelson about that. told him to lose a few pounds before the last election didn't he. >> well they always say that no, i'm not trying to fat shaming, but what i am saying is get out of my life, sir keir. >> look, i don't know. do you think it will have any difference? will it, will it end up just, you know, creating some kind of junior black market for fat food? steve, what do you reckon? >> deliveroo. well, the first thing to say, the first thing to say is keir starmer's birthday today. >> and do i think he'll be putting his face into victoria sponge? probably. i think he probably will. and yes, i mean, i've never seen him in the in the flesh, but he does look look like he could lose a little bit. he looks a bit podgy. listen, this . this. >> i'm not having this fat shaming guys. it's all it's all about. >> it's all about messaging and to children, these are, you know, these are the precious people we need to look after. and all he's doing, all he's saying is common sense. says, don't put it in front of them and tease them with it. perhaps
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replace these takeaways with something more appropriate so that health can be promoted rather than junk food. promoted. so it's not about complete ban. it's about saying we've got to re—educate. how do you re—educate? you do it by making sure that what's visual is healthy . and this is one way, healthy. and this is one way, one very small way of doing it. but parent power is by far the most important . yep, yep. most important. yep, yep. >> steve miller, thank you as ever , steve, former presenter of ever, steve, former presenter of families always great to speak to you on this one. i mean, it would be nicer if there were less fast food outlets on the high street, but that's just because they tend to be quite ugly. no offence if you run one, i'm just worried about the creep of this. >> then it goes, oh well, you can shop, can't sell sweets and all of that, so i don't like it. just teach your kids not to go and eat a burger for lunch, right? it's absolutely got to get your views in on that one. >> but we're going to move on very quickly because today is the start of a new academic yeah the start of a new academic year. and for parents, it marks the day that fines for term time absences go up . absences go up. >> yeah. the cost of penalty charges has increased to £80 if
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paid within 21 days, £160 if paid within 21 days, £160 if paid within 21 days, £160 if paid within 28 days. bearing in mind that i got fined £65 for danng mind that i got fined £65 for daring to park my car in the wrong zone for less than ten minutes the other day, that seems that yet that seems. yeah, just that seems quite reasonable in a sense . anyway, it comes as in a sense. anyway, it comes as ofsted grades are due to be more transparent as well. so lots of school stuff going on at the moment. >> yes, the government have announced they're scrapping 1 or 2 word ofsted inspection grades for england schools immediately. that's the outstanding. could do better whatever they are. well joining us now to discuss this is educationalist, school governor and author of lessons from lockdown, doctor tony breslin. let's start with those. ofsted one word, descriptions of our schools. apparently some parents quite like them . parents quite like them. >> well, there is an argument that they offer simplicity, but they oversimplify. this is a good move. it gives parents more information while putting less stress on schools to achieve a single judgement. so actually
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parents will look at the four areas or the or just the four terms if they wish, but they'll see personal development, they'll see leadership and management. of course, they'll see quality of education, and of course they'll see behaviour . course they'll see behaviour. and different parents may put a different emphasis on some of those things when they're choosing schools. so actually what we've done is said let's have more nuance. this is what the profession i've certainly been writing about this for some time. let's bring more nuance to the inspection process or the reporting process. i should say this will give more and better information to parents. it will place less stress on teachers. >> just to say, as it currently stands , as it currently stands, stands, as it currently stands, if you want to, you see a school that's got the word outstanding on a banner outside it. can you then go on a website? the ofsted website, and look at that in more detail ? more detail? >> yes, you can look at the ofsted report for any school. for every school is on the ofsted website. >> this is what i don't quite. sorry, sorry to interrupt but this is what i don't quite
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understand because it all already exists, doesn't it? you can just go and do that if you want. and what would stop a school who's been rated clearly outstanding. just putting outstanding. just putting outstanding outside. >> there's no substantial change in the framework. right. but a lot of people don't get beyond the banner on the fence . and the banner on the fence. and sometimes it's been a really close call as to whether that banner says good or says outstanding. that's what puts the stress there. so actually now what schools are going to have to say if they want to put it on the fence. now, my wife took a school to outstanding, kept it outstanding and deliberately never put a banner on the fence, a lot of great schools don't do that. some choose to. that's fine . but what choose to. that's fine. but what we're saying now is that you cannot sum up an organisation as complex as a modern school, or any school with one word, but we are saying maybe you can look at it across the four areas and say, how does it score in each? this is a good one. there are no losers out of this. i think it's a good call by the education secretary. >> okay, well, you put the case.
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you put the case very strongly. thank you very much indeed. outstanding. doctor. tony breslin, educationalist, school governor and author of lessons from lockdown. i say if i were a headteacher and mine was deemed to be outstanding, i'd slap that everywhere. >> paint the school with it. >> paint the school with it. >> i'll paint the school with it . >> i'll paint the school with it. outstanding. a bit of embarrassment if you have to wash it off when it doesn't do so well next year anyway. coming harry want to return to the uk?
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>> all right, welcome back. it's 10 to 2 now. prince harry has consulted former aides about a possible partial return to the uk as he seeks to repair his pubuc uk as he seeks to repair his public image. that's according to the daily mail. >> yes, the major move is being branded as operation bring harry in from the cold. catchy as he's allegedly growing dissatisfied with advice from american based image experts. >> i'm not surprised they've absolutely mugged him off, right? joining us to discuss this now is royal commentator caroline aston. caroline so, does harry really want to come
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back , back, >> he may do , because there are >> he may do, because there are lots of strands to this story . lots of strands to this story. let's look at it from the king's viewpoint for a start . still viewpoint for a start. still undergoing cancer treatment. you know, he's 76. in november. he has loose ends in his life, which anybody faced with a diagnosis like his might just want to knit up loose, tighten them up a little bit and we know he's been consulting spiritual advisers about the nature of forgiveness. so that could be some motivation on that side. on the other though, harry, now why does he want to come back? he's offered, of course, to do a little light royal work, you know, zero publicity, of course, zero balcony appearances. how likely is that? that would be a piranha fish fest going on the moment he set foot on our shores and of course, that sails perilously close to disobeying the late queen's absolute diktat that he could not be half in and
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half out. and at the back of all this lies the undeniable fact that brand sussex, the great american dream , has somewhat american dream, has somewhat lost its way. the proof of any pudding is in the eating, and there must be a very sad, sour taste in the mouths of both sussex's at the moment. we've got meghan making jam, cooking in a kitchen that isn't her own, and i think harry's about to conjure up a picture of that niche sport polo. the netflix contract comes up for renewal next year, and don't forget , next year, and don't forget, spotify has already gone the way of all flesh. and indeed, they've been called a couple of grifters by the powers that be there. this is a crucial time for the sussexes, and it's interesting, isn't it, that these trusted aides and friends he's been consulting are so trusted? of course, they've leaked the whole idea to the press, because at the end of the day, publicity is oxygen to the
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sussexes. and what better pubuchy sussexes. and what better publicity could you have than this dangling? if you like , the this dangling? if you like, the carrot of reconciliation, knowing the press will zero in on this like an exocet missile? >> well, you put that in such beautiful terms. what wonderful turns of phrase . caroline, just turns of phrase. caroline, just very quickly. we haven't got long. is it true? is it right? what? patrick said that the pair have been mugged off by the american pr guys. >> well, i would say if you're an adviser, your job is to give an adviser, yourjob is to give advice. that's what it says on the tin. but you can only give advice if someone's listening to it. and you must get very frustrated if you find your real job is to rubber stamp decisions that the great and the good have already made camp montecito heads above the parapet. what will happen next? watch this space. >> watch this space. caroline, thank you very much. you always deliver. caroline and the fabulous royal commentator. well, it's always poetry, wasn't
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it? i could listen to that for hours. >> i have listened to it. find out what happens next. >> loads more coming your way. we're going to be debating whether or not parents should be fined for taking their kids outside of school during term time. we're going to be talking about that and a heck of a lot more as well, including as well some of the new conservative immigration policies by their respective leaders. so there's going to be quite a lot to get our teeth stuck into there. so we'll see you in a second. yeah. stay tuned. >> for a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on gb news . on gb news. >> good afternoon. welcome to your latest weather update from the met office here on gb news. plenty going on in the skies today. some big thunderstorms in places , but other areas just places, but other areas just fine with some warm and humid sunshine. it's a bit of a messy weather picture. low pressure system sitting over the uk. old weather fronts generating some hefty downpours. we've seen some
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i'm patrick christys now the race for the next tory leader kicks into gear today. kemi badenoch was the first to go, but she did refuse to say what level of immigration she'd like to see. >> next up was the shadow home secretary , james cleverly. he secretary, james cleverly. he vowed to bring back the rwanda plan and said that he was uniquely suited to unite his party and win the next general election . election. >> and dodging a vote. labour are accused of hiding from scrutiny as mps demand a vote on the scrapping of the winter fuel allowance, which would impact millions of pensioners . millions of pensioners. >> we've got a couple of other stories as well, so there is a trans runner in the paralympics who is a 50 year old born male who is a 50 year old born male who is a 50 year old born male cheaper. anyway, let's get the heacisies with tatiana cheaper. anyway, let's get the who is now competing against women, apparently, and he is now heacis nowrith tatiana cheaper. anyway, let's get the heacis now competing against who is now competing against women, apparently, and he is now qualified for the semi—final. so qualified for the semi—final. so you're going to be talking about you're going to be talking about that whether or not that that whether or not that
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apparently competing as a male apparently competing as a male up to six years ago. up to six years ago. >> yeah. so a very recent >> yeah. so a very recent change. so are we getting stuck change. so are we getting stuck into that . and also whether, a into that . and also whether, a into that. and also whether, a parents should be fined for into that. and also whether, a parents should be fined for taking their children out of taking their children out of school during the holiday time. school during the holiday time. now we're mentioning this now we're mentioning this because the fine has increased. because the fine has increased. it's like a car park ticket. a it's like a car park ticket. a parking ticket, isn't it? well, parking ticket, isn't it? well, i want to know if you pay it i want to know if you pay it within an amount of time, then within an amount of time, then it's less than if you leave it it's less than if you leave it for a while. for a while. >> i want to know whether or not >> i want to know whether or not the fine outweighs the saving. the fine outweighs the saving. because that's the point, isn't because that's the point, isn't it? there's no point finding me it? there's no point finding me £100 if i've saved a grand. £100 if i've saved a grand. >> what about the priceless cost >> what about the priceless cost of educating your child? oh, of educating your child? oh, yeah. >> great. so, sandra, from the yeah. >> great. so, sandra, from the geography department can tell your kid they might have been geography department can tell your kid they might have been born into the wrong body. and born into the wrong body. and you know, okay, school is a good you know, okay, school is a good thing, okay? >> school is a good thing. fine thing, okay? >> school is a good thing. fine gbnews.com/yoursay. i know gbnews.com/yoursay. i know martin daubney is taking his kid martin daubney is taking his kid out. he mentioned it on air, so out. he mentioned it on air, so i was going to say otherwise. i was going to say otherwise. >> you've just driven a massive >> you've just driven a massive bus. i'm not. bus. i'm not. >> i'm not dumping him in. maybe >> i'm not dumping him in. maybe you at home have a few times. you at home have a few times. who knows? it's cheaper. it's who knows? it's cheaper. it's cheapen who knows? it's cheaper. it's cheaper. anyway, let's get the cheapen who knows? it's cheaper. it's cheaper. anyway, let's get the headunes cheaper. anyway, let's get the headlines with tatiana headunes cheaper. anyway, let's get the headlines with tatiana .
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headlines with tatiana. >> emily. patrick, thank you very much. and good afternoon. the top stories leadership contender james cleverly has launched his tory bid this afternoon, vowing to bring back the rwanda plan, as he also said, conservative answers are needed to solve the most challenging problems facing our country, cleverly highlighted the need for to us remake the argument for capitalism to boost economic growth and give younger people a stake in society. he also said he'd increase defence spending to 3% of gdp and on illegal migration, mr cleverly says we need to have deterrent. >> i will use my contacts and my reputation with rwanda to resurrect that incredibly important partnership . and more important partnership. and more than that , i will rebuild
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be that change. we have to focus on renewal , the renewal of our important partnership. and more than that , , will rebuild important partnership. and more than that , , the rebuild of our on renewal, the renewal of our party, our politics and our on renewal, the renewal of our party, our politics and our thinking. and it starts with thinking. and it starts with principles. principles are the principles. principles are the fundamentals that give us fundamentals that give us direction, unity and certainty . direction, unity and certainty . direction, unity and certainty. they must underpin everything we direction, unity and certainty. they must underpin everything we do. >> the prime minister says the do. >> the prime minister says the scrapping of single phrase scrapping of single phrase inspection headlined grades for inspection headlined grades for schools in england, will be a schools in england, will be a relief for parents. previously, relief for parents. previously, ofsted awarded one of four ofsted awarded one of four headune ofsted awarded one of four headline grades to schools. it headune ofsted awarded one of four headline grades to schools. it inspects and those are schools change. we have to focus inspects and those are outstanding. good requires outstanding. good requires improvement and inadequate. the improvement and inadequate. the department for education says. department for education says. for inspections this academic for inspections this academic yean for inspections this academic yean for inspections this academic year, though , parents will see year, though , parents will see year, though, parents will see four grades across the existing year, though, parents will see four grades across the existing subcategories, those being subcategories, those being quality of education, behaviour quality of education, behaviour and attitudes, personal and attitudes, personal development and leadership and development and leadership and management . education secretary management . education secretary management. education secretary bridget phillipson has told management. education secretary bridget phillipson has told reporters today that the death reporters today that the death of headteacher ruth perry made of headteacher ruth perry made the need for ofsted reform the need for ofsted reform absolutely clear. the prime absolutely clear. the prime minister says it will hold minister says it will hold
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.an councillor raymond connolly. an israeli court has ruled that a general strike that shut much of the country's economy must end this afternoon. israel's entire economy is on strike today in a bid to pressure the country's prime minister, benjamin country's bid to pressure the country's prime minister, benjamin netanyahu, into accepting a gaza netanyahu, into accepting a gaza ceasefire deal after six ceasefire deal after six hostages were shot dead in gaza. hostages were shot dead in gaza. idf soldiers recovered the idf soldiers recovered the bodies of the hostages, who bodies of the hostages, who israel says were killed moments israel says were killed moments before troops reached them . back before troops reached them . back before troops reached them. back home, the department for work before troops reached them. back home, the department for work and pensions is launching a week and pensions is launching a week of action to encourage the of action to encourage the elderly to check their elderly to check their eligibility for pension credit, eligibility for pension credit, worth up to £3,900 a year. the worth up to £3,900 a year. the campaign will involve charities campaign will involve charities and local authorities urging and local authorities urging that families, friends and that families, friends and neighbours of elderly people to neighbours of elderly people to ask them to look into whether ask them to look into whether they could benefit. chancellor they could benefit. chancellor rachel reeves is seeking to rachel reeves is seeking to soften the blow from her cut on soften the blow from her cut on winter fuel allowance, with a winter fuel allowance, with a drive to encourage more drive to encourage more pensioners to take up benefits pensioners to take up benefits that they may not know that that they may not know that
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allowance, but called it a tough de(to on made to stabilise allowance, but called it a tough de(to newside to stabilise allowance, but called it a tough de(to news alertsstabilise allowance, but called it a tough de(to news alerts by)ilise allowance, but called it a tough de(to news alerts by scanning up to news alerts by scanning the qr code or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . forward slash alerts. >> all right, welcome back. it is now 208. you're watching and listening to good afternoon britain with me emily carver. and today patrick christys you also hear tomorrow. i am here also hear tomorrow. i am here also here tomorrow. now it's been a big day for the conservatives, but our people listening, we've had kemi badenoch. she gave her speech this morning. katherine forster, our political correspondent , our political correspondent, asked her what level of immigration she'd like , whether immigration she'd like, whether there'll be a target. kemi wouldn't give one. she said it's not about a target because they failed in the past. we also heard from the former home secretary, didn't we, james cleverly? he made his pitch to the nation, talking about the good work he did in the home office, bringing immigration down. he spoke about bringing back the rwanda deportation plan. that would be rather
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controversial. wouldn't it? wouldn't it? he also talked about abolishing stamp duty altogether. so it was an interesting morning. yeah, exactly. >> so the tories are, you know, going back and forth at the moment as they desperately try to win your votes. but looking at the labour side of things. well, keir starmer is now absolutely slumped in the polls to a lead of just 4%. it's quite remarkable really, isn't it, because we're only a couple of months on from that whopping great big landslide. he's also now defending his party's choice to cut winter fuel payments for 10 million pensioners. he's not going to, as it stands, put that to a vote in parliament despite massive pressure to people are saying, well, it wasn't in the manifesto. it's going to affect roughly 1 in 7 people manifesto. it's going to affect roughly1 in 7 people in roughly 1 in 7 people in britain, which, you know, is the kind of thing that might be worth a vote, really. but he says it's the right thing to do to help get the country's finances back on track. >> i don't want to cut the winter fuel allowance. i don't think any government wants to do that, but we've got to fix the foundations of our economy, and that's what this is all about, making sure that we fix the foundations. making sure that we fix the foundations . and then having foundations. and then having done that, that we can build a
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better future, that pensioners and so many other people voted for in this election. so this is a tough decision, not a decision i want to make. but i'm absolutely determined, will stabilise the economy and fix the foundations. and then on that we will build a better britain, that we are elected into government with a strong mandate to bring about. >> okay. that's keir starmer answering that question on the winter fuel allowance. >> just quickly, very quickly say something which i think it's worth noting that keir starmer actually has been accused of hypocrisy by conservatives over his tax exempt pension deal the previous job. yeah. so when he was director of public prosecutions , reportedly he has prosecutions, reportedly he has a tax free pension . so it's a tax free pension. so it's interesting to think what he's doing with pensioners. but himself anyway. >> yeah. well let's speak to the political editor at huffpost uk, kevin schofield. thank you very much indeed, kevin. this should have been in the manifesto. and seeing as it wasn't, there should be a vote. surely
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>> yeah, i don't see any harm in it, but i'm not a labour mp or the prime minister so i can see the prime minister so i can see the jeopardy for labour and not wanting to have a vote. obviously they've got a massive majority so they wouldn't lose the vote, but it would expose labour splits on it. i think quite a few labour mps would at least be tempted to vote against the government. now we had that, with the two child benefit cap, if you remember a vote on the king's speech just after the election and seven labour mps voted against the government and lost the labour whip being suspended for six months. so maybe labour think , well, if we maybe labour think, well, if we have another vote, we risk another rebellion. do we have to lay down the law? but i don't think it will stop the conservatives and indeed the liberal democrats as well from pursuing this. and there are always other parliamentary mechanisms by which you can vote force a vote. so i wouldn't rule it out at the moment. but yeah, i can understand why labour are not exactly keen to have a vote because as i say, it would definitely expose some splits among their mps.
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>> yeah. i mean, is there an element of hypocrisy here with keir starmer? i mean, his own pension is basically gold plated, isn't it . plated, isn't it. >> yeah. that's right. i remember the conservatives were making that point i think before the election as well. he has got a very unique pension arrangement because of his time as the director of public prosecutions. in fact, ironically, it was the conservative government who brought in that particular legislation which put his pension on the statute books, but , you know, there's another but, you know, there's another way that it can be accused of hypocrisy . before the election, hypocrisy. before the election, he stood up at the despatch box when he was still the leader of the opposition and challenged the opposition and challenged the conservatives to say that they would not reduce winter fuel payments. and that was only in may. so here we are, three months later. and that's exactly what labour have done when in government. so yeah, there's no doubt that this is uncomfortable for them. and lucy powell was out yesterday making pretty remarkable claims that it was all about trying to prevent a run on the pound and the economy crashing, which, you know, did
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seem a little bit over the top. but but yeah, it's uncomfortable. but it just shows that when you're in government, things are a lot more difficult than when you're in opposition. >> and more generally, do you think the government is focusing on on the right things? we're heanng on on the right things? we're hearing quite a lot about sort of public health measures, aka often known as nanny state measures. we've got talk of banning smoking outside , so banning smoking outside, so outside nightclubs, pubs and whatever else, tighter restrictions on, on online as well. yeah tighter restrictions onune well. yeah tighter restrictions online in terms of speech, social media regulations. you've got disposable vapes. they might be banned. you've got takeaways outside schools can't have any more of those nationalised ticket systems, ticket sales, nationalising ticket sales potentially with this oasis controversy over people not getting them for the price that was advertised to begin with. i mean, kevin, they really are micromanaging to the extreme, aren't they ? aren't they? >> i'd be very surprised if they nationalised ticket sales. that was a suggestion made by zarah
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sultana, who's very much on the left of the labour party, i think, expressing her frustration that she couldn't get oasis tickets. lucy powell was actually asked about that yesterday and said they wouldn't be doing. we're hearing about that. >> that's one thing we're heanng >> that's one thing we're hearing about. probe a probe into dynamic pricing. i mean, surely, yeah, a ticket is worth as much as someone's going to pay as much as someone's going to pay for it. surely >> yeah. but although i think i think a lot of people were very unhappy at the way the system operated on saturday, i have to declare a bit of an interest here. i was in the queue as well for an oasis service. >> kevin up. in the end, a pubuc >> kevin up. in the end, a public service. >> i gave up. in the end i gave up in the end. but but you know, i don't i think i think consumers need protected, you know, and if at the beginning of the day, a ticket is worth £150, and by the end of the day it's worth more than twice that, i think that's a reasonable that's more than twice that, though, isn't it? >> because demand dictates that it is . it is. >> well, it's the same ticket. it's the same as the thing. they're not getting a different service from it. it's the same ticket for the same event. so, i
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think it is worthy of an explanation, at least from ticketmaster. but yeah, i don't think labour. i don't think labour would be well advised to take too much time getting into the, the weeds over this one on the, the weeds over this one on the smoking ban. and there's been a real backlash on that. i wonder whether this was a kite flown last week to try and judge what the public mood would be. i'd be surprised at this stage whether that actually made it into the legislation, given how much of a backlash there has been, i think we'll have to take a close look at that legislation when it's eventually i think i think that's going to be very telling, kevin, isn't it, about the actual psychology of not just keir starmer, but his advisers as well, given that backlash, do they plough ahead with it? >> i think we'll learn quite a lot about this government going forward. >> yeah, some people saying it's a dead cat strategy. you know, distract with smoking, which will get all the headlines and people will debate ad nauseam, you know, and it distracts from bigger issues. kevin schofield, thank you. as ever, political editor at the huffpost uk. i think it's i mean , it's crazy. think it's i mean, it's crazy. you can't have a government getting into the nitty gritty of ticket sales. surely? surely it's not like a loaf of bread
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where you know there's an abundance. there is a fixed number of tickets. >> well, there's also the risk. there's also the massive risk, isn't there, that if keir starmer wants to try to get involved into absolutely every little thing, then that means that every little thing becomes his fault. yes, that's true. and so does he really want to behave like that? i don't know, i think we're still trying to assess the psychology of our new dear leaden psychology of our new dear leader, aren't we? but german politics has seen an interesting result over the weekend, as the right wing alternative for germany won in the eastern state of thuringia. >> yes, the afd won almost a third of the vote, putting them nine points ahead of the conservative cdu and far in front of germany's three governing parties. it is a result that is quite the blow for german chancellor olaf scholz, who labelled it as bitter. i wonder if that's a direct translation there. however, it has little hope of forming a government in thuringia because other parties are unlikely to work with the afd. >> classic, isn't it? yes, well, look , i'm joined now by senior look, i'm joined now by senior researcher at legatum institute, guy dampier . guy, great to have guy dampier. guy, great to have you on the show. thank you very, very much. so what does this
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mean for germany? what does this mean for germany? what does this mean for germany? what does this mean for europe? it comes off the back of keir starmer going over there and pressing the flesh of his old mate olaf and saying that, you know, we need progressive progressives of europe unite. well, turns out maybe , maybe the germans have maybe, maybe the germans have even less respect for him than we do. >> it does. it seems that the german government or the coalition government is even less popular than keir starmer is at the moment. they have done appallingly. in fact, the afd in these two state elections got more votes than the three parties in the coalition government put together. so it's a pretty resounding repudiation of the current government. that won't necessarily change things for now , because the german for now, because the german system is quite inflexible. things will go on until the federal elections, which are early next year. but in the meantime, there's an increasing awareness that this government is something of a lame duck. and the real question now is becoming who is going to replace it? >> and what's your assessment of why the afd is, is garnering all of these votes? and particularly
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in in east germany, is it simply to down immigration? >> i think it's the only thing you can put it down to. and what you can put it down to. and what you can put it down to. and what you can look at is you can look at the other party that did extremely well, which is the bsr, the bsr, and they are a left wing populist party, and they're left on economics and they're left on economics and they're left on economics and they're left wing on foreign policy, but they're more right wing on migration. policy, but they're more right wing on migration . and they also wing on migration. and they also did staggeringly well. they launched just recently, and they went straight into double digit votes. so that shows that whether they're on the left or on the right, there is a massive, massive appetite among the german public for restrictions on immigration. and that's a completely reasonable thing because the german government has put immigration on steroids and the country simply cannot deal with the load it's being put under. >> yeah , indeed. and i just >> yeah, indeed. and i just wonder whether or not we are at serious risk if it's not already here. by the way , of this here. by the way, of this unbelievable level of disconnect between the people who are actually in positions of power and the people that they are supposed to serve, whether it comes down to ignoring votes ,
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comes down to ignoring votes, which is what they will try and do with this by just shoving the afd out because they'll refuse to work with them. whether it's the language that's used by keir starmer not addressing legal or illegal immigration, calling it irregular migration, refusing to accept that people have legitimate concerns about it . legitimate concerns about it. actually, if you did really, seriously want to guard against the rise of the far right, you know , ignoring people's concerns know, ignoring people's concerns about immigration is probably the worst way to go about it, isn't it? >> definitely. i you can make a very reasonable case that there are extreme elements to the afd , are extreme elements to the afd, but at the end of the day, the german people want a restriction on migration, and it is actually the governing class that's refusing to do it. and in that case, it's the government that's extremist. they are out of touch with the democratic will, and they are imposing something that germans have never voted for and which the country cannot handle. i mean, we're talking about a ,50 billion bill on dealing with migrants through the migrants who've come through the asylum . that's about the asylum system. that's about the same level as the defence budget. it's simply not feasible. >> so they're spending the same about the same amount on defence as they are now on on asylum.
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>> on asylum. yes. i mean, a lot of that is going to be welfare. so even in the last, last year that we have figures for about half a million people came through the asylum system, not including ukrainians and most of those would have gone straight onto germany's relatively generous welfare system, especially the new burger geld . especially the new burger geld. and, that again, you know, the germans basically can't you can see how people in poorer parts of east germany would, would be particularly worried about this. >> even wealthy people paying less, because that's where they're gaining the more more they're gaining the more more the votes. guy dampier , thank the votes. guy dampier, thank you very much. senior researcher at legatum legatum institute. thank you very much indeed. gosh >> well, i'm sorry, but, you know, anyone would be well within their rights to not be okay with that. you know, it's interesting because even olaf scholz is talking tough since that recent terror attack at that, that festival in solinger nothing show. we've seen that play nothing show. we've seen that play out before though unfortunately, there's a small reaction. there's, you know , reaction. there's, you know, candlelight vigils and then everything just carries on the way. it's always carried on. yeah, it's deeply, deeply concerning times. but, there we
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are. there we are. well perhaps we should talk about something slightly more trivial, but important nonetheless. >> we're going to be debating whether parents should be fined for taking their kids out of school during term time. what do you think. >> well, look, i think if you can save yourself a shedload of money and your child misses, you know, a week of school, i don't think it's going to massively harm them, although i'm not. is a law? am i people to break the law? yes you are. sorry.
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next. welcome back. you're watching . welcome back. you're watching. listening to good afternoon britain now. children across the uk have returned to school today. also, mps are returning today. also, mps are returning to their schools and today to parliament. it's the start of a new academic year. >> well, to mark the start of a new term, fines have increased. good news. yeah, fantastic fines have increased for parents who take their child out of school. the cost of the charge has increased to £80 if paid within
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21 days, £160 if paid within 28 days. >> gosh, it's quite expensive. so we're asking the question should parents be fined at all for taking their child out of school? >> well, joined now by broadcaster paula london, who believes parents should be fined , believes parents should be fined, and also a parent, julie cook, who believes that they that they shouldn't. and i am after a little bit more information on this. so julie, i'll start with you. i mean do why shouldn't parents be fined then? in your view, what's what's your for case saying that ? case saying that? >> well, if we'd been having this debate two years ago, i would have been on paula's side. i would have been saying the same thing, but i think with the way holidays have gone up and the cynical increase in prices by holiday companies, the minute you're in the school holidays, it's making it impossible for even kind of well—to—do families to go on a decent holiday, particularly those who are poorer and save up all year. i just think it's a disgrace how they actually, the minute it goes to sort of july the 1st down to september , the prices down to september, the prices shoot up to 3 or 4 times and
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people just can't have a holiday anymore. as i say, two years ago i'd have been saying no, that's it. you should be fine. i just think it's very, very hard for families to get any time away together. and our weather here is awful. at the moment, isn't it? so i don't blame people for going away. >> okay, well, paula, your thoughts? >> yeah. i disagree. i think parents are teaching their children that education isn't a priority, and that can lead them to have very bad habits with attendance going forward. if they choose to do higher education or if they get a job. and i don't believe they're 3 or 4 times more expensive holidays, they really aren't. sometimes they're a little bit more, but at the end of the day, i remember when i was young, i went on one holiday a year that was it. if i was lucky, somewhere nice and hot. now parents want to go away 3 or 4 times a year. and i think a lot of these holidays are not even for the children. they're for the parent. and it's just wrong. it's not fair. and the children schools aren't as good as they were in my day. in my day, we didn't have a woke curriculum. it was very important to spell correctly, very important to
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learn, to add up to and read. now children are leaving school without a good education. and you know, you mentioned covid, which was a great point. since covid, children have missed so much school , so they cannot much school, so they cannot afford to miss any more. okay. keep your children in school. >> okay, julie. i believe it's £80 a day if you pay within the first 21 days, which you obviously would. right. so i suppose the argument is whether or not you make that £80 a day back, isn't it? >> yeah. and that used to be the great toss up, wasn't it. it used to be. it was actually far cheaper to pay what used to be the £60 fine than pay an extra 800, £900 for your holiday. however now that that's gone up, i can see you know why we're having this discussion . what's having this discussion. what's the best thing to do? and i agree, i agree with what paula said, that education is something important and we shouldn't be teaching our kids. you just up and leave willy nilly. i do think there ought to be some kind of, it should be based on attendance and how well you're doing. so if your child is attending pretty much well throughout the year, hasn't been off sick all the time, hasn't
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been off playing truant, has been off playing truant, has been a regular attendee at the school. then i don't see why a week off would harm them. that much. some children have more time off that for sporting extracurricular things or other things they do within the school, so i think it should depend also on how well that child attends the school. >> i guess , paula, i guess, for >> i guess, paula, i guess, for me, it's about thinking about, well, if everyone did it, if everyone took their, their kids out , it would everyone took their, their kids out, it would be absolute chaos, wouldn't it? it'd be awful for the teachers. awful for the other children, awful for the other children, awful for the other parents. >> exactly. great point. it's not fair on the teachers, but also some children that are being taken out of school. all of the time, say perhaps 2 or 3 weeks out of the term time because their parents love going to tenerife a few times a year, etc. their their peers at school could make fun of them. they could make fun of them. they could be in trouble. they can't integrate as well because they're not in school. so you're also making your children feel like they're not part of the team anymore in the classroom, and they're missing out on
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education, and it's just not fair. there really is no excuse whatsoever. if my parents tried to take me out of school, i would have been furious because i love school. they wouldn't have done it because they were good parents. they understood how important you can get a suntan any time, and you're not going to learn french or spanish when you go abroad, because i've heard some people use that as an excuse. oh, i'm taking my children abroad so they can learn a foreign language. they need to learn more so than ever, because schools aren't as strict as they used to be. and if children aren't getting strictness at home, they need to learn discipline in school . and learn discipline in school. and that does not mean leaving whenever you feel like it. to get a bit of sun. >> well, i do wonder though, julie, you know, whether or not actually children really need to be in school for the length of time that they are in. i mean, ultimately you've got two sets of exams that really matter. you've got the gcse and you've got your a—levels. and there is, i think, a quite decent enough case to be said. you don't really need to be in school all the time. and that actually and actually as well, you know, given the way that some, some curriculums are going and some teachers are prattling on about gender and all of this rubbish that actually you might be better being out of school .
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better being out of school. >> yeah, that's an argument, i mean, i've never done it myself. l, l, mean, i've never done it myself. i, i, i'm a good girl. i take my kids out during the holidays and that's that. but i'm noticing a lot more people who didn't used to do it are now doing it. and i think there's a combination of those factors. i think it's, number one, prices have gone up so much, but as you say, education isn't actually what it used to be. i know paula mentioned, you know, the three r's that we used to have . now r's that we used to have. now there's so much fluff in education. you know, there's this, that and the other personal this, personal that learning about sex, learning about sex when you're five. i don't think all of that is particularly necessary. of course, don't take the child out when he's 15 and about to take his gcses, or your daughter. but i do think that education, there's a lot of fluff there that didn't used to be there. i agree with you, patrick. >> okay, well, we'll have to leave it. sorry, paula. go on. final word i'm just going to say is the lady insinuated that it's okay to take your child out of school if there's quite a woke curriculum, but if the school is good, you won't take them out. >> no, no, ijust
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good, you won't take them out. >> no, no, i just think i'm >> no, no, ijust think i'm seeing more of it. i'm seeing more parents thinking why, why, why go in anyway? you know , if why go in anyway? you know, if you're going to be learning not they're not very good parents saying that, yeah. who knows? i don't know. it's up for debate, isn't it? >> okay, well, good luck . >> okay, well, good luck. >> okay, well, good luck. >> two sides. really it is. yeah. >> two sides of that. paula. london and julie cook. thank you very much indeed. i just think, you know, you're very small. march, i just think it's a breakdown of society, isn't it? really, if you just decide, oh, i can take my kid out. no. oh, you know, screw all the rest of you know, screw all the rest of you know, screw all the rest of you know, i was being i was being a bit flipped my life. >> i don't think. >> i don't think. >> what are you teaching your child? you don't have to play by the rules. you know, everyone can just do whatever the hell they like. >> no, i agree, but one thing i will say, though, is it is. it is a shame how expensive holidays are both at home and abroad. by the way, when it comes to term time, we're in a fortunate position. >> my mum always tells me her only holiday when she was child was a corrugated iron hut in wales. gosh. so there you go. and it rained, apparently.
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>> where is she now ? south >> where is she now? south france. all right. okay well, let's let's get you over to the . news. >> patrick, thank you very much. and good afternoon. the top stories. tory leadership contender james cleverly has launched his bid, vowing to bnng launched his bid, vowing to bring back the rwanda plan, as he also said conservative answers are needed to solve the most challenging problems facing our country. cleverly highlighted the need for us to remake the argument for capitalism to boost economic growth and give younger people a stake in society. he also said he'd increased defence spending to 3% of gdp and on illegal migration, mr cleverly says we need to have a deterrent. kemi badenoch also launched her tory leadership campaign today, calling for change in the conservative party. the shadow communities secretary and contender to replace rishi sunak says her party has to focus on renewal to be ready to return to
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power. miss badenoch used the speech to also accuse labour of pulling the wool over the eyes of the public, insisting that it's of the public, insisting that wsfime of the public, insisting that it's time for something new. the prime minister has said the scrapping of single phrase inspection headline grades for schools in england will be a relief for parents. previously, ofsted awarded one of four headune ofsted awarded one of four headline grades to schools that it inspects and those are outstanding. good requires improvement and inadequate. the department for education says for inspections this academic year , though, parents will see year, though, parents will see four grades across the existing subcategories, those being quality of education, behaviour and attitudes, personal development and leadership and management. the prime minister says it will hold schools accountable , and the wife of accountable, and the wife of a conservative councillor has pleaded guilty to publishing written material to stir up racial hatred . 41 year old racial hatred. 41 year old childminder lucy connolly called for mass deportations and attacks on hotels housing asylum
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>> welcome back to good afternoon britain . we've got afternoon britain . we've got afternoon britain. we've got loads coming your way, but afternoon britain. we've got loads coming your way, but before all of that i'm just before all of that i'm just going to introduce to the fray >> welcome back to good going to introduce to the fray martin daubney because he's on martin daubney because he's on in about 23 minutes time. in about 23 minutes time. martin, what's on your show ? martin, what's on your show ?
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martin, what's on your show? martin, what's on your show? >> guys, every time i see you, what a wonderful chemistry. it's almost like you know each other. i'd like to see much more of you pair on our screens on. on today's show, parliament goes back to school. i've got lee anderson coming to the studio for his first interview of this term. he'll open up to me about the extraordinary death threats he's had over the summer , which he's had over the summer, which is which has culminated in court cases and guess what? no stiff sentences for those who harangued lee anderson. quite unlike what happened to ed miliband. and once again, the conversation is of two tier justice. it feels to him at least , that if you're from the least, that if you're from the political right, the insults are completely acceptable. and i'm talking to the political right. the tory leadership race is on pace. does anybody care? will it make any difference? is it like rearranging the deck chairs on the titanic? james cleverly saying that he'll bring rwanda back? well, not a single person ever went to rwanda. why would bringing a plan back that never delivered make any difference the second time round? and of course, germany , political course, germany, political revolution in the air there,
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plus the winter fuel allowance. they won't allow a vote on it because their voting record will because their voting record will be held against them for all time. they'll be shamed by making pensioners freeze . that's making pensioners freeze. that's why they won't allow us a true vote. we'll have all that . 3 to 6. >> yeah. lovely stuff. martin. thank you very much. matt. it's always one to watch, especially today. martin daubney will be lighting up your television screens from 3 pm, but we're going to be talking about another very controversial topic now, aren't we? >> we are? yes. the paralympics, just like the olympics in paris, is being overshadowed by a transgender controversy. >> honestly, sorry . this is transgender controversy. >> honestly, sorry. this is just ridiculous. italian trans athlete valentina petrillo, who was competing as a male only six years ago, has qualified for the women's t12 400 metre semi—final. the current 200 metre bronze world championship medallist is looking to secure an olympic medal, which will be the first in paralympic history. and i mean, ijust the first in paralympic history. and i mean, i just i just don't and i mean, ijust i just don't understand why anyone bothers. i'll bring in now peter tatchell ,
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other woman athletes who she's competing against. >> okay, peter, it's not just about sport. it's not just. it's not just about whether this athlete will win the race. potentially taking away a space from from someone else competing as a male. only six years ago. is this just about testosterone? is this just about testosterone? is that the only difference between between a male athlete and a and a female athlete now? >> well, no. valentina has been through a process of hormone treatment and gender reassignment, and that has a reduced and interfered with her metabolism. she is now not as strong as she was when a man. she's got less energy, less strength. so that is why the world governing body has said it seems fair that she can compete, even though women have less energy. obviously, fairness is very important in sport and i totally get that. and i support it, but i don't think there is evidence from the world governing body that she has a
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specific advantages since she did , the transition has did, the transition has undergone those very extensive . undergone those very extensive. >> it's one of the it's one of the very obvious signs that there is an advantage. the fact that he's 51 years old and he's at the olympics, well, that is disadvantage. >> you know, she is many years disadvantage. >> you know, she is many years older in some cases, i think 20 older in some cases, i think 20 or more years older than other or more years older than other athletes. so that's a male athletes. so that's a male athlete. athlete. >> yeah . >> yeah. >> yeah. >> yeah . >> yeah. >> yeah. >> age is working against her. >> age is working against her. >> age is working against her. >> well, it's not is it? is it >> age is working against her. >> well, it's not is it? is it the semi—final of the olympics? the semi—final of the olympics? they've got to the olympics. they've got to the olympics. it's i mean, it's ridiculous. i it's i mean, it's ridiculous. i mean, you don't see i mean, i mean, you don't see i mean, i don't . and what other don't . and what other don't. and what other professional sport do you see don't. and what other professional sport do you see realistically the one that lower well, that is realistically the one that involves some kind of physical involves some kind of physical exertion, someone who's 51 years exertion, someone who's 51 years old, competing at the top table old, competing at the top table like this, i mean, the like this, i mean, the implication would be that maybe implication would be that maybe they have a natural advantage. they have a natural advantage. peter. >> well, the implication is that peter. >> well, the implication is that they are a very, studious and they are a very, studious and industrious athlete who trains industrious athlete who trains very well . and by the way, very well . and by the way, very well. and by the way, valentina's race times are much very well. and by the way, valentina's race times are much
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world para athletics, has body, world para athletics, has assessed the rules. >> keep changing. that's why i don't take that as gospel, because they keep changing their mind on things, don't they? >> they are the professional body and they have deemed that fairness in sport is very important. and in their estimation, given the treatments that valentina has been through and her lower level of testosterone, that it's fair that she competes a little luck again, they're the world governing body. >> who's the head of world para athletics, a chap called paul, who's the competition's senior manager. you've got someone called martin. i just think yet again, you know, you've got men here dictating what a woman is really . i just find that, you really. i just find that, you know. all right. great. so paul has said as he that valentina is a is a is a woman. well, we'll have to take paul's word. paul that's fine. that's great. if paups that's fine. that's great. if paul's okay with it, then you know , women everywhere have to know, women everywhere have to be have to be fine with it. peter, you know, hang on.
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>> the decision to allow valentina to compete was not down to 1 or 2 people in the world governing body. >> they run it. >> they run it. >> they run it. >> they set the rules down to a committee which looked at all the evidence and made a decision. so it wasn't just men orjust a couple of men. it was a committee decision which looked very thoroughly at the medical and other evidence and came to this conclusion. now, i agree that this is a tricky, difficult issue and i, i don't feel comfortable with it, but i think we have to on the side of inclusion unless there is compelling evidence to the contrary , and there is no contrary, and there is no compelling evidence that valentina, after her transition , valentina, after her transition, has a particular advantage. >> yeah, the argument, has a particular advantage. >> yeah, the argument , though, >> yeah, the argument, though, that she's older so therefore doesn't have that advantage in that way or she's not going to win the race anyway . i mean, win the race anyway. i mean, that's just. anyway, peter tatchell, thank you very much. always good to speak to you. peter tatchell lgbti plus liberation campaigner. yeah, never going to agree on that
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one. >> no we're not. but anyway whatever. so right. welcome back to good afternoon britain. of course we've still got a little while left. did you get an oasis ticket? if you did, how much are you willing to sell me for? no, sorry, we want to know whether or not the government is going to investigate the steep price rises that we saw in these ticket websites, or actually r ,do , do the government just need to butt out of this? people were willing to pay whatever they
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all right. welcome back . so the all right. welcome back. so the uk government has announced that it will investigate the steep price increases for concert tickets sold on official websites, after fans faced soaring costs for next year's highly anticipated oasis reunion shows . shows. >> culture minister lisa nandy has expressed her concern over these vastly inflated prices on authorised retailer sites , which authorised retailer sites, which she said could exclude many fans
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from attending . from attending. >> sorry, it's not communism, this is it. if you've got if you've got money, you can go to certain things that people who haven't got money can't go to. and i say this as a bloke who was unable to get an oasis ticket, what do they want? i don't get it. >> the investigation will focus on the transparency and fairness of dynamic pricing, a practice that raises ticket prices in response to high demand. uber and things like that. also do this as part of a broader review of ticket sales and consumer protections. okay. joining us now to discuss this is consumer expert and host of the false economy podcast vix leyton. now as a consumer expert i imagine you are on the side of the consumer. so you'll be on the side of people who are going for the tickets and then they realise that they've jumped in price in, you know, a few minutes. yeah, more than they were expecting. what's your argument? >> well, it's less of an argument and more of a sort of transparency point, i think, in terms of how they're priced. i think you know, there is some there's definitely some sense in it is what it is. things are pnced it is what it is. things are priced how they're priced. and if people can afford them, they
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can charge what they like . but i can charge what they like. but i think where it becomes a consumer issue is when you get to the front of the queue, you think you know exactly what it's going to cost, and then you have three minutes to decide if you want to pay triple the price or not, because that is quite a nice psychological trick there. at that point you've got sunk cost fallacy because you've been queuing up for hours and hours. you're really excited about it. your mates have transferred you the money. it's all on you. are you going to let these tickets 90, you going to let these tickets go, or are you going to pay the price that they want? and that's where it becomes a little bit morally wrong. i think if they'd said at the start, do you know what the prices might change before you even got in the queue? if they'd said that at the start, maybe they would have had a leg to stand on here because, as you say, they're not a charity. they can charge what they like. >> i just wonder if it all falls down by this idea that, for example, people like me who didn't get a ticket, who would willingly offer the nation £1,500 for a ticket right now, if you give it to me right now, email in. anyway, that's ridiculous amounts for that. so if someone goes if someone goes, oh, well, you know, the tickets are sold out, it's only these prices. what's stopping people just reselling them to people like me for £1,500? now take it
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off your hands. >> no, you won't. that's the point. >> very little. that is the point. and one of the arguments that the ticket sites have said is that they are trying to stop touts by basically becoming the touts by basically becoming the tout themselves at the checkout and paying what people are willing to pay, taking what they're willing to pay exactly at point of sale . but i don't at point of sale. but i don't see how they're going to be able to crack down and stop people from reselling these. you know, if you are going to list them on a website where they can check back and go, actually, we can cancel these tickets now if they care enough, they can do that. but in terms of stopping tickets, changing hands, somebody's offering you a ticket in the pub or whatever you can pay- in the pub or whatever you can pay. it's a real struggle. i don't think they're ever going to get a handle on fully stopping the resale from from happening. but just because people charge those prices , people charge those prices, yeah, far too difficult a charge in those prices doesn't mean they're going to get it right. but the solicitor for £9,000, no one's going to pay that. yeah. >> well, do you think ministers are right to have a look at this dynamic pricing? i mean, do you think they should actually ban, you know, tickets from going up in price when you're, when you're in the queue already. i mean, it seems a little bit interventionist, doesn't it?
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>> i think if you as i said, if they said at the start that this is a risk, i mean, calling it surge pricing is a bit of a cheek. when we knew exactly how much demand there was going to be for these tickets, there was no doubt that this was going to happen. this was built into the system. it wasn't a surprise surge like an uber surprise when it's a little bit busier because you and three of your mates are trying to book at the same time. there was no surprise here. this isn't an unexpected demand , so isn't an unexpected demand, so maybe they should have priced them honestly in the first place. so i think where it becomes, as i say, where it becomes, as i say, where it becomes a consumer issue is the surprise. let us know at the start. do you know what you're getting in the queue now? there's £75, will let you know they're going to change price and you can choose to opt out and you can choose to opt out and let people who have got the money carry on with the process, because they just wasted a lot of people's time and disappointed a lot of people at the checkout. so, well, there you go. >> i couldn't even make it through to the buy the ticket stage. >> you're handling it so well. oh thank you very much. >> later today, as the host of false economy podcast, some people have been saying, you know, these two guys, you know,
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working class roots, they should have, you know, set that price and kept it there. >> i don't know, ijust and kept it there. >> i don't know, i just think it's quite clever, isn't it, to get you hooked and then put the price up . price up. >> yeah. there you go. they're entitled to whatever capitalists, whatever they want to do anyway. look, martin daubney is up next. we'll be lighting up your television screens for the next three hours. and just to let you know as well, i will be back on 9 to 11 pm. patrick christys tonight . tonight. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on gb news . news. >> good afternoon. welcome to your latest weather update from the met office here on gb news. plenty going on in the skies today. some big thunderstorms in places, but other areas just fine with some warm and humid sunshine. it's a bit of a messy weather picture. low pressure system sitting over the uk old weather fronts generating some hefty downpours. we've seen some thunderstorms and a few more to come through the evening time,
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potentially causing some disruption. parts of the welsh marches up into the west midlands, north—west england but also northeast scotland, all tending to ease as we go through the night. but still a few showers coming into parts of the midlands during the early hours. still quite warm and humid over eastern england, but generally turning cooler and fresher, particularly in parts of scotland, well down into single figures here and that fresher air will spread in more widely as we go through tomorrow, but still probably quite, quite warm, quite humid first thing in the morning over the midlands, southern england. still a lot of cloud and still some showers here, but brighter skies further north over northern england and much of scotland. but for northern ireland and western scotland, there's another zone of rain coming in. it won't be as heavy as the thunderstorms that we've seen today, but nevertheless a dull, damp start in the northwest. a lot of cloud still over the midlands and eastern england early on. still a few showers here. still got the humid air in place for tomorrow. potential for 1 the humid air in place for tomorrow. potential for1 or the humid air in place for tomorrow. potential for 1 or 2 heavy ones, particularly across the far south—east kent into
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parts of norfolk and suffolk dunng parts of norfolk and suffolk during the early afternoon. possibility of the odd thunderstorm. but for much of wales, northern england, southwest england it's a much brighter day and a fresher feel as well, with temperatures for many in the high teens. wednesday's fresher feel even in the south and east, and again, a mix of sunshine and showers. but for many, i think across southern scotland, northern england it will be a fine day. we'll see quite a few showers for northern ireland, wales and developing again over central and eastern parts of england. bye for now . bye for now. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers , sponsors of boxt boilers, sponsors of weather on
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pm. and welcome to the martin daubney show on gb news. we're broadcasting live from the heart of westminster all across the uk. on today's show, politicians went back to school today as parliament returns over the summer. sir keir starmer's popularity plummeted amid riots , popularity plummeted amid riots, slashing the winter fuel allowance and allegations of cronyism. the tories are still meanwhile looking for a new leader, and reform has seen a 5% polling boost. i'll bring you fully up to speed and today kemi badenoch and james cleverly made their pitch to be the next conservative leader. ms badenoch slammed labour as clueless, irresponsible and dishonest. meanwhile, mr cleverly promised to bring back rwanda and scrap stamp duty. we'll have all the latest. and it's not just parliament that's back, as hundreds of thousands of students have returned to school. ofsted have also announced scrapping their one word grades for schools across the country. but what impact could this have on parents? and are you looking back in anger at the weekend? i am, it seems so
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