woi'i won its first ever party has won its first ever state election. but are we seeing the rise of the far right, or is this a political pushback onto uncontrolled migration? i'll be speaking to the co—founder of the afd party shortly. also this evening, the home secretary , yvette cooper, home secretary, yvette cooper, has slammed rioters and called them racist over the recent disorder across the nation. a huge row then erupted in the commons when shadow home secretary james cleverly blasted the government's handling of the riots that even brought up black lives matter. next up , the lives matter. next up, the former labour leader jeremy corbyn forms a parliamentary group with four other pro or independent mps to put pressure on sir keir starmer. are we seeing a new move towards sectarian . sectarian. politics? what was the show? thanks for your company. we've got a

fantastic show ahead of us. all that and more to come. so please do get in touch with your thoughts on tonight's topics. you know to what do. gbnews.com/yoursay i'll read out the best comments before the end of the show. but first, here's your headlines with will hollis . your headlines with will hollis. >> good evening. your top stories tonight at 7:00. the home secretary has called the people who were targeting people on the streets of britain because of their colour, of their skin, as disgraceful . their skin, as disgraceful. yvette cooper updated parliament on the government's response to riots which erupted across the uk following the killing of three children in southport. the home secretary referred to rioters as racists , calling them thugs. >> in bolton , clashes between >> in bolton, clashes between rival groups involved fireworks and bottles thrown. and we saw people targeted on the streets because of the colour of their skin. this disgraceful or disorder and racist hatred ,

disorder and racist hatred, including that whipped up by a hateful minority online, was an insuh hateful minority online, was an insult to those grieving over southport . southport. >> it comes as the wife of a conservative councillor pleads guilty to publishing written material to stir up racial hatred. 41 year old childminder lucy connolly called for mass deportations and attacks on hotels housing asylum seekers in a post on x on the same day of the stabbings, the post has now been deleted from her x account and she later apologised for acting on false and malicious information. lucy is the wife of a conservative councillor, raymond kearney . to israel, now raymond kearney. to israel, now and its prime minister has vowed he will make hamas pay for the killing of six hostages in gaza. speaking at a press conference in jerusalem, benjamin netanyahu said that hamas will pay a heavy price for the hostages deaths, calling it a massacre . now this

calling it a massacre. now this all comes on the same day as an israeli court ruling that a general strike shutting much of the country's economy must end. israel's entire economy has been striking in a bid to pressure pressurise benjamin netanyahu into accepting a gaza ceasefire deal into accepting a gaza ceasefire deal. back in the commons, the government has announced it is to suspend the sale of some weapons to israel. foreign secretary david lammy said 30 out of 350 arms export licences are to end, due to clear risk. they could be used in a serious violation of humanitarian laws. israel continues to face international condemnation for the growing death toll in its war against hamas in gaza. >> but to license arms exports to israel, we must assess their compliance with international humanitarian law , humanitarian law, notwithstanding the abhorrence of their opponents tactics and

ideology . third, this of their opponents tactics and ideology. third, this is not a blanket ban. this is not an arms embargo. it targets around 30, approximately a 350 licences to israel in total for items which could be used in the current conflict in gaza . conflict in gaza. >> and finally, the government has hit at the dynamic ticket price pricing that saw oasis oasis tickets more than double before the eyes of fans. on saturday, those fans of the world famous band sat in virtual queues for hours , hoping to get queues for hours, hoping to get their hands on tickets to one of their hands on tickets to one of the shows next year. but at the checkout stage , the face value checkout stage, the face value had rocketed, rising from £148 to 355. that's all for now. we'll see you in one hour's time for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign

up to news alerts by scanning the qr code , or go to gbnews.com the qr code, or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . forward slash alerts. >> thank you will. now germany's controversial alternative for deutschland party has won its first ever state election. the party, which has been accused of being right wing and extremist for its strong stance on migration, achieved nearly a third of the vote in the state election of thuringia. however, the christian democratic union , the christian democratic union, formerly chancellor angela merkel's party, ruled out any possibility of governing with the afd in coalition. the afd has been called the dominant force in eastern germany , and it force in eastern germany, and it could possibly win the election in brandenburg in three weeks time. now is it right that such a popular party is being obstructed from power? well, i'm delighted to say now i'm joined by the co—founder of the afd party, doctor bernd luca. doctor

luca, thank you very much for joining us on the show. can i first get your reaction to the historic win of afd? it's being called a truly breakthrough and seismic moment in german politics. >> let me. good evening . first, >> let me. good evening. first, let me first perhaps point out you introduced me as the co—founder of the afd, which is formally correct . but today's formally correct. but today's afd is a very different party from the party that i founded. and i left the party about almost ten years ago due to its to shift a xenophobic agenda on which it is campaigning now. and now, in terms of the election yesterday, that was not completely unexpected because there were three driving forces actually , which were very actually, which were very important in east germany and which went in favour of the afd . which went in favour of the afd. first, there is the strong discontent with our governing coalition second, there is much

unease about the uncontrolled immigration into germany, which is taking place. and third, in particular in east german states and both states, which were voting yesterday were east german states . there is a voting yesterday were east german states. there is a high degree of scepticism towards the support for ukraine and on all of these three issues, the afd campaigned successfully . campaigned successfully. >> and doctor luca, what's been astonishing about germany in the nine years from 2013 to 2022, germany experienced the highest number of illegal immigration of any european union member state, 2.15 million. and of course, recently we've seen an appalling spate of islamist terror attacks. do you think those two factors, i mean, you might call the afd islamophobic, you might call them far right, but those two factors have been preying heavily on the minds of german

voters as they went to the polling booths. >> absolutely, yes. i have nothing to add to your statement. it's a completely correct . correct. >> okay. so what about the direction of the party in the future? you left in 2015. you said the party had fallen irretrievably into the wrong hands. it had gone to the far right, but the electorate seemed to be responding to its message. where do you think the party will go from here? >> i don't know where the party will be going to. that very much also depends on how the party is being dealt with by, for instance, the media and the other parties in germany. actually, i think there is a very dangerous tendency that the more the party is portrayed as a nazi party, and that is currently the dominant saying, the greater is the danger that the greater is the danger that the party will become even more right wing because the more moderate members of the party will be leaving such a party for

fear of being socially stigmatised for their afd membership. that is a process which has actually been taking place already since the party was founded. there was always a defamatory campaign against the party, but it is true that the party, but it is true that the party has voices which are xenophobic, which use language able to incite hatred against, foreigners . that it is in some foreigners. that it is in some aspects at odds with the values of our constitution . so the of our constitution. so the portrayal is not completely unfair. on the other hand, it is never recognised that there are also many reasonable people in the afd party and that there are also reasonable positions that the party is campaigning on. and this is probably why voters still feel that the afd has to play still feel that the afd has to play a role in german politics. in particular. as you said, migration is completely

dysfunctional . migration laws dysfunctional. migration laws are completely dysfunctional in the european union and in germany and the afd points that out over and over again. and thatis out over and over again. and that is not unreasonable to say. so that is probably one big reason why the party has such strong support. >> and doctor luca, can i ask you about the perceived refusal of opposition parties to enter into any form of coalition with the afd? do you think that's anti—democratic? do you think that will actually help the afd in the future? for example, we saw in france with le pen's party, we saw in britain with the brexit movement, when the political establishment refused to acknowledge, the electorate, refused to listen , refused to refused to listen, refused to enter a coalition, could that actually, rather than stamping out the afd, could it boost their popularity? because they would they would portray themselves as being persecuted and oppressed. >> you know, the important thing actually, is that we solve the problems that we solve the problems that we solve the problem with uncontrolled

migration, that we solve our economic problems on which the current governing coalition in berlin is not doing very well, that we solve the problem with ukraine, whether the established parties do that or whether they need to be pushed to doing that by entering in some kind of agreement with the afd, is actually of second order importance. but the problem currently is that the established parties are unable to tackle this issue because they themselves, stretching from they themselves, stretching from the say , liberal, conservative the say, liberal, conservative christian democratic party to the very, very left, do not agree on the measures to be taken and therefore, as long as they are opposed to forming any kind of coalition or cooperation with the afd , they block with the afd, they block themselves in you know, the requirement to form a government which extends or which comprises a big, big or very, very

different opinions on how to tackle those, those issues. and therefore we don't get any solution. that's the big problem . solution. that's the big problem. >> it's a fascinating conversation. thank you so much for your time. co—founder of the afd party, doctor berndt . luca, afd party, doctor berndt. luca, thanks for your time. absolute pleasure. now joining me now in the studio to discuss this is my panel the studio to discuss this is my panel, and that's the gb news senior political commentator nigel nelson, and also the former political editor of the sun, trevor kavanagh. gentlemen, good evening. trevor, could i start with you, of course. it's being painted as ever. as far right. and history? the burden of history weighs heavy. of course, upon germany. do you think it's fair or accurate to portray supporters of a party like this as somehow sympathising with the darker side of german political history? >> well, i think there's no doubt that some of them do. and i think the evidence is there to prove it. but i think what they are doing is representing the sheer frustration of people not just in germany, but across the european union. and here in

britain too. this is predictable and in fact was predicted at the time when angela merkel flung open the door to a million migrants from syria and other countries. and it was also predicted during the period when tony blair did the same here by jumping the gun and giving accession rights to a number of european countries. and the face of europe began to change. and that accelerated during the penod that accelerated during the period when people began to cross the channel in very large numbers and across the mediterranean too . and the knee mediterranean too. and the knee jerk reaction of people like yvette cooper and others is to brand everybody who raises a finger or a question on this as fascist and racist. and i think thatis fascist and racist. and i think that is so much a that's backfired very, very badly in germany. and i think it will backfire here in britain. i think that you're dealing with probably the majority of the

aduh probably the majority of the adult population here when you describe them as racist. this is not a racist issue. it's about culture, community cohesion, and we are losing all of that at the moment. and the developments in the house of commons, which are going to discuss later, i think, vindicate that argument. >> nigel nelson, can i bring you in on this point ? no doubt you in on this point? no doubt you concur with doctor luca there that the party has lurched irretrievably in the wrong direction. nevertheless, the electorate has spoken out. there are very, very real concerns about uncontrolled immigration and islamist terror in germany. and the people have voted. yeah. i mean, i think i wouldn't i wouldn't describe them as far right in the sense they believe in the democratic process. >> so i think that they're more sort of populist, right, or radical right. when it comes down to their islamophobia and indeed anti—semitism you are talking about, especially with germany's history, some really unfortunate things. they talk about, not allowing circumcision except for medical reasons, banning kosher food, widening

out their policies. banning kosher food, widening out their policies . they tend to out their policies. they tend to be climate change deniers or at least that they don't believe that humans have caused climate change. >> isn't that just another one of those smears that trevor was mentioned, though? anybody who questions the charge towards net zero is called a climate change denier. are those labels helpful? >> well, what they're saying is it's not it's not human made. so i mean, they go further than just than than most other people on that. but i mean, certainly if you look at the, their policies, towards, towards jews, i mean, the idea of banning kosher food that has got a nasty sort of echo of the 1930s about it. >> but they also are against, halal slaughter for similar reasons. i mean, along the lines of animal cruelty , too. of animal cruelty, too. >> yes. >> yes. >> it's not necessarily islamophobic to , to not want to islamophobic to, to not want to allow slaughter, is it. and again, are those labels helpful. >> well, i mean , the question >> well, i mean, the question really is how mainstream are they. really is how mainstream are they . and i think i mean, trevor they. and i think i mean, trevor

makes the point that we know there are certainly some extremists, at least within the within the party. but as i said, i wouldn't classify them as necessarily far right . but necessarily far right. but immigration, again, is the big issue as it as it's become in this country. >> it's interesting. trevor, the hard left communist parties are also took part in this election split from the centre, the centre left party. and they also shared the same concerns as afd around uncontrolled immigration and the rise of unchecked islam. so in that sense, the horseshoe connects and not everybody can be a fascist. not everyone can be a fascist. not everyone can be an islamophobe. how about if people are just concerned about the state of their country, and this is the only party who listens to them? >> well, you're absolutely right about the horseshoe, because in the end, the extreme right does link up with the extreme left and they become just deeply unpleasant. and whatever you want to call them fascist communists, but they're extreme and they are utterly intolerant. they do not represent the mainstream voting member of the pubucin mainstream voting member of the public in germany or across europe . but because of the gap, europe. but because of the gap, the vacuum in policy on

immigration and again across europe, not just here and not just in europe, not just in germany. there is the feeling amongst voters that their voices are not being heard, not being listened to, in fact, that they're being dismissed and insulted. and this is the reason why nigel farage's reform group has managed to do so well in the recent elections and in terms of numbers, much better than in other parties. and it's also the reason why the tories fail so badly, because immigration is basically out of control. during that 14 years of tory rule. people are fed up. they want to have their voice listened to, they want something done and thatis they want something done and that is now one of the key issues about the re—election of the a tory leader. >> excellent. trevor. nigel. great to the show. thank you very, very much indeed. now, coming up this evening, the home secretary has called rioters racists. yes. that again. and james cleverly responded by slamming the government over its so—called two tier handling of the recent unrest . he even went

the recent unrest. he even went in on black lives matter. we'll get a reaction of a tory mp in just a

welcome back to gb an tonight with me martin daubney now today james cleverly straight out of the gate today, both launching his leadership campaign and accusing the labour party of abject hypocrisy. within the last few hours, the home secretary , yvette cooper, made a secretary, yvette cooper, made a statement to the house of commons on the southport attack. let's take a listen . let's take a listen. >> in bolton, clashes between rival groups involved fireworks and bottles thrown and we saw people targeted on the streets because of the colour of their skin . this disgraceful or skin. this disgraceful or disorder and racist hatred, including that whipped up by a hateful minority online, was an insuh hateful minority online, was an insult to those grieving over southport.

>> well , yvette cooper. they're >> well, yvette cooper. they're doubung >> well, yvette cooper. they're doubling down on the racist rhetoric. and here's what james cleverly had to say in direct response to that. got a bit spicy. >> and does she now also recognise that the labour leadership , kneeling in the leadership, kneeling in the immediate aftermath of the black lives matter disorder, when violent protesters attacked police officers, looks like her party takes some forms of violence less seriously than other forms of violence. and does she accept that any perception whatsoever of treating the same crimes differently based on the race, religion or community of the perpetrators increases tension rather than reduces it ? rather than reduces it? >> i thought you got a bit spicy, didn't i? and joining me now to discuss this is james whale, the conservative mp for nonh whale, the conservative mp for north west norfolk. and also, of course, still with my panel of gb news senior political

commentator nigel nelson and the former political editor of the sun, trevor kavanagh. let's start with you, james wild . i start with you, james wild. i thought that was a bit frisky. so james cleverly launched his campaign earlier on today and he was straight out of the bat off the back of a speech by yvette cooper that was meant to be sombre, earnest in its tone about the riots and what we learned from them. cleverly fired straight back and brought in the black lives matter, taking the knee moment and also hit out at keir starmer and for good measures, london mayor sadiq khan for being silent on the two deaths at notting hill. what do you make of that exchange? >> well, he clearly had his weetabix this morning. i think we want to see the police act without fear or favour when they're policing any of these protests or disruption. we want to see politicians equally condemning lawlessness . wherever condemning lawlessness. wherever the organisation is that's causing it is coming from. so i think that's the point that james was trying to get across this afternoon. >> we were talking earlier about afd just won a landmark election in germany. one of the one of the points that trevor kavanagh made was that when you keep

calling people racist and far right all the time, in the end it ceases to have no impact . it ceases to have no impact. it's yvette cooper falling into the same trap there because it's interesting , is it not, that we interesting, is it not, that we saw in the aftermath of the 2011 riots? indeed, the black lives matter riots monday morning they took the knee . saturday the took the knee. saturday the riots happened. mr cleverly's point was, there seems to be a very different reaction when the violence is coming from a certain community. >> well, as i say, we need to condemn all violence and it all needs to be dealt with robustly. i think there are people, as we saw at the election with concerns around immigration, whether that's legal or illegal. and one of the reasons that the conservative party, my party, lost that election was because we hadn't dealt with that issue. and that's why we do need to do that, to win back the trust of the people, of which there are two leadership pictures today. >> james cleverly said . 3% of >> james cleverly said. 3% of gdp on defence bring back the rwanda bill. even though it didn't get a single person off the ground voluntarily scrap stamp duty kemi badenoch. we were told off, by the way, for calling a badenoch. it's

badenoch with a y that told us off, calling the labour party clueless, irresponsible and dishonest . what do you make of dishonest. what do you make of the two pictures today? >> well, look, i'm backing tom tugendhat, who's launching his campaign tomorrow morning. we've got a strong set of candidates who are vying to be the leader of the conservative party. i think tom's best placed with the character, with his record of service to lead our party and to win back the trust. he's someone who acts on his convictions. we've seen that over the national insurance rise, which he voted against, as well as the pandemic when he voted against the covid passport. so i think he's the best person. >> tom tugendhat at the moment only has i think about 5 or 6 mps publicly support him. of course, not many have declared yet, but the two front runners, in terms of those who have declared, appear to be robert jenrick and miss badenoch. do you think the membership will get the two people that they would like to get the job, or will they get the two people that you guys decide should get the job? >> well, we've seen tom's been out over 100 constituencies visited over the last few weeks . visited over the last few weeks. the other candidates have been out, been hustings. the

membership have seen them. we've seen polls of what the members think and all mps. i've been talking to my association members who they think the best candidate is as well. and we'll now see. tomorrow we have the first hustings in parliament for mps and then the first vote on wednesday, and then we'll see where the numbers are. i think half the party roughly have declared where they are at the moment. a lot of colleagues are waiting to see how everyone performs tomorrow, so it's a big day. it's an important day. >> interesting poll out today. it's got the labour party down by four points. the reform party up five, the conservatives up two. you haven't got a leader maybe just don't have a leader. it's the only two boys you've put on in months. >> well, well we'll see. we took a hammering at the election and that's because we lost the trust of people. when we have a leader, we'll be able to start rebuilding that trust and take the fight to keir starmer. but we've already seen whacking pensioners by taking away their winter fuel payments, all the other decisions, letting people out of prison early, these aren't things that were mentioned at the election, and we haven't even seen the big tax rises that are going to be

coming in a matter of weeks. okay, james. >> well, superb. let's bring in my panel now, nigel and trevor. nigel to you first. what do you make of the exchange there it was. it was robust. there were a lot of loud intakes of gasping air, weren't they? this was meant to be the moment where where yvette cooper was owning the stage and james cleverly hit straight back. he got a glove on the chin. i felt, yeah, but the whole thing is i think you've got to work on the basis of all these things are different. >> so when you were dealing with the recent riots, this was actually bordering on insurrection and covered an awful lot of the country that the black lives matter. yes, there was disruption, but there wasn't. there weren't the riots that they of the kind of level that they of the kind of level that we've just seen, there are 100. >> and when you come down to notting hill, a lot of police officers were injured and keir starmer's reaction on the monday morning was to take the knee. >> the point was that the rioting was of a different degree and the big danger was that that would have spread unless it had been clamped down on immediately. and there was a lot of it was based on racism. so i can see why yvette cooper

makes a distinction between these various things. trevor. >> well, i think that the point is that when the demonstrations over black lives matter took place, there was deep concern about the way that the police turned a blind eye, especially considering the circumstances of covid and so on. >> the police took the knee, the police took the knee. >> now we didn't have the comparison then of the riots we've just seen, but i think we did know that the police were operating on a two tier basis of policing , and that is policing, and that is unacceptable in any society because you need the consent of the people to policing. police are supposed to be citizens in uniform. if they're taking one side against the other and supporting these dividing lines, this sort of politics of identity, then i think all of those who are left behind by that sort of attitude get very angry about it. and i think that for again, it's dismissing everyone as a racist. it really

gets into the craw of people who feel just they don't like the way things are going, but so they're being branded as something extreme and unpleasant and i don't think that's going to be acceptable. >> do you think it's a fair point, though, nigel, to point out it's like, what, six weeks now since the attack at manchester airport? nobody's been charged, let alone prosecuted for that. and yet we've seen people, you know , we've seen people, you know, hauled away to prison, you know, toot sweet . if they make toot sweet. if they make a facebook post that the government doesn't agree with. >> again, two separate things. i mean, what happened? well, they are because what happened at manchester airport, it is now going through the whole criminal justice system. and you're absolutely right. nothing's actually happened 24 hour overnight court to deal with it sharpish. well if you're dealing with the rioters, the important thing is that you want to make sure that that the riots stop and the answer in doing that is to is to have instant justice and exemplary sentences, which is what happened. and that put a stop to the riots. i think when

you're dealing with essentially a crime incident matter for the police, whatever level, whatever speed need to go to at do their investigation. trevor, do you think it's fair that we haven't had any attempts to have a conversation about the underlying reasons? >> why do people feel so frustrated? they take to the streets? nobody's excusing the riots that happened in southport and the other seven towns across england, which happened to have high levels of social deprivation. they also happen to have the highest level of asylum seekers in all of the united kingdom. there's been no conversation about that, just condemnation. >> you can't have a conversation when the vocabulary has been hijacked by one side, so that as soon as you start to suggest what might be the cause of this or that, there are certain factors which need to be taken into account. you are immediately branded as an islamophobe or a racist, or some other brand that is immediately a silence is a form of gagging or censorship. so you can't have

a debate. >> okay, trevor. nigel. excellent again and thank you, james wilde, for joining excellent again and thank you, james wilde, forjoining me in james wilde, for joining me in the studio. now, coming up next, we'll be discussing jeremy corbyn's new parliamentary group that has the same strength as the reform party. are we seeing a much touted and predicted move by nigel farage sectarian politics that's coming

next? welcome back to tbn tonight with next? welcome back to tbn tonight with me martin daubney now next story me martin daubney now next story jeremy corbyn. yeah remember him jeremy corbyn. yeah remember him the former labour leader. well, the former labour leader. well, he's collaborating with for pro he's collaborating with for pro gaza independent mps to create a gaza independent mps to create a left wing bloc in parliament. left wing bloc in parliament. the independent alliance the independent alliance includes corbyn, ayub khan, includes corbyn, ayub khan, shaukat arade dam, iqbal shaukat arade dam, iqbal mohammed and adnan hussain but mohammed and adnan hussain but has formed and now an official has formed and now an official party. now they've already party. now they've already criticised labour's decision to criticised labour's decision to cut pensioners winter fuel cut pensioners winter fuel allowance , and they've released allowance , and they've released allowance, and they've released allowance, and they've released a statement saying that they allowance, and they've released allowance, and they've released a statement saying that they

were elected to provide hope in were elected to provide hope in parliament of despair and that they believe in a more equal and peaceful world. now the bloc has five mps, which puts it on the same footing as reform uk in parliament. well, joining me now to discuss this is graham stringer, the labour mp

to discuss this is graham strin any the labour mp to discuss this is graham strin any possible ur mp to discuss this is graham strin any possible defence of him past any possible defence of him and his politics when he laid a wreath for black september in tunisia. black september, you'll remember, were a group that murdered israeli athletes at the 1972 munich olympic games , and 1972 munich olympic games, and they murdered them because they were jewish for no other reason . were jewish for no other reason. so it was a racist murder. so i think that put jeremy beyond the pale. is always referred to hamas in in gaza as friends. so isuppose hamas in in gaza as friends. so i suppose he is happier now. he won't have to dance on the head of a pin about whether he really is friends with terrorist organisations or not, and when you look at the population makeup of the seats, dewsbury and batley 52% muslim population , and batley 52% muslim population, birmingham, perry barr 30%, leicester south 30% , blackburn

leicester south 30%, blackburn 35% now. >> nigel farage said all along he fears we will see sectarian politics emerging. this is clearly a long lines of religion. they might talk about wishing for a more peaceful world, but actually this is a pro—palestine, sectarian, political movement, is it not? >> pro—hamas i think rather than palestine. i mean, many of us would make that distinction. one wants justice for the people who live in gaza, but that's impossible . while they are impossible. while they are repressed by the terrorist organisation hamas. i didn't go to any of those constituencies dunng to any of those constituencies during the general election, but ihave during the general election, but i have talked to people who did, and it was straightforward politics of telling people in the mosques to support them that the mosques to support them that the labour party was anti—muslim, which we're not, and to vote for them because they were supporting hamas and they were supporting hamas and the palestinians in gaza and all

the palestinians in gaza and all the other issues that those constituencies have. those constituencies have. those constituencies not only have large numbers of muslims, there is there are other problems of poverty and education in those constituencies that weren't dean constituencies that weren't dealt with. and i don't know the man, but i, i watched the maiden speech of the member for leicester south and it was quite simply appalling. it was a massive distortion of what had actually happened in that election. if you listen to the speech, it was all peace and light. you know , they were all light. you know, they were all friends, all the candidates were friends. it was it was nonsense and offensive. >> and it's worth pointing out that if bucha mohammed, who's the mp for dewsbury and batley, quelle surprise, not a single mention of the batley grammar school teacher. three years on, still in hiding with his family in fear of their lives. and to be fair, the labour party mp has never stood up for that teacher ehhen never stood up for that teacher either. previously >> well, he should have done ,

>> well, he should have done, >> well, he should have done, >> basically, i'm glad you agree on that. now moving on, there was a lot of talk during the general election about this kind of collective impact on the vote of collective impact on the vote of the labour party. in fact, these were labour seats that swung over today. david lammy, the foreign secretary, announced something of a change of position. many would feel , position. many would feel, initially before the general election, sir keir starmer was adamant that israel had the right to defend itself and protect its borders in response to those grotesque terrorist attacks on october 7. today, david lammy has announced 30 companies will no longer be supplying military goods to israel. is that a difference of opinion? that's a very different position. some people are saying that that is not supporting israel. >> i've not heard the detail of that. i know that the uk probably provides less than 1% of israel's, defence, and most of israel's, defence, and most of it is not used in the conflict with hamas or hezbollah for that matter. so i don't know

the details , but i when hamas the details, but i when hamas and hezbollah and iran have as their policy the eradication of israel and the murder of jews, then israel and the jews who live in israel have an absolute right to defend themselves. they're our allies. and we should provide them with the equipment to defend themselves. >> might jeremy corbyn's move today embolden more radical candidates out there to join this coalition? and could that be a headache for the labour party? >> well, it's possible, i think there is a serious rethink that many of the leaders of the muslim community and of the labour party need to think about our relationship. the vast majority of muslims in this country have voted for labour quite frankly. they believed that the conservative party was racist and probably 30 or 40 years ago, they were right. that's changed. and the world has changed within the muslim

community. gaza is an issue that worries them. they're angry about it . i represent worries them. they're angry about it. i represent a worries them. they're angry about it . i represent a large about it. i represent a large number of muslims, so i think the leadership of the muslim community and the labour party have to think out their position, but it must be based on firm principles, not just vote for us because we'll do what you want us. i have had some very robust conversations with the muslims i represent saying that actually just because they have their view and there are a large number of muslims, doesn't mean i can necessarily support them. decisions i make as a member of parliament, and i assume for the vast majority of other members of parliament, has to be based on our judgement of what is right for this country and what is right in the most general terms for our constituents. >> great stuff. graham stringer and let's bring in my panel now, trevor and nigel trevor, let's start with you. the labour party for a long time has had a corbyn

problem. how big a problem is it this time? i think it's a very, very significant and sinister problem. >> and graham stringer in my experience, has always been a very sensible and moderate and rational member of the labour party. and he says that he represents the majority. but if he does, it's the silent majority. and i think that the problem for the labour party is that it's now in thrall to the more, extreme and aggressive members of the muslim community. what you're seeing here is the embryonic beginning of the islamist islam islamic party in the house of commons, which is totally out of sync with our history of democracy , islam is history of democracy, islam is not compatible with democracy in any case, as far as muslims generally are concerned, the world belongs to allah, not to the voters . so this is a really the voters. so this is a really dangerous step. and it will, i think, expand. we will see more such mps being elected on a

muslim ticket rather than a british political ticket. >> nigel, is that fair? i mean , >> nigel, is that fair? i mean, jeremy corbyn maintained for a long, long time while he was inside the tent that he was in no way representative of this more extreme end of the islamic community has the veil slipped now? no. >> i mean, i think that the use of the word islamist is actually is going far, too far. >> i changed it to islamic. oh, fine. >> okay. sorry, but you've got people here that, not supporting . people here that, not supporting. hamas. if they were supporting hamas. if they were supporting hamas during the election campaign, they would have been arrested. i would have thought. so what they're doing is they're supporting it. they're supporting it. they're supporting that. >> there was serious literature put out which the police refused to investigate. most of it didn't have the imprint of the agent on it, but it was supporting the candidates. when in greater manchester, we approached the police and said, this is unlawful. they refused to investigate it. so. right. yeah. >> wow. what did they say to you? >> they basically said, we don't

know who put the leaflets out. that was what they said both to the police commissioner appointed by andy burnham and to different candidates. >> astonishing. does that feed into that earlier point? there seems to be a very different, pursual of justice. >> i'm sorry for what graham has said. i'm really surprised that there was no investigation whatsoever. and at the moment, obviously we're in an unproven territory about whether it was sponsored by these individuals or by by somebody else. but yes , or by by somebody else. but yes, from what you've said there, graham, i'm astonished that the police didn't even look into that because quite clearly , that because quite clearly, support for hamas is an offence. >> are you astonished by that, trevor, or. >> actually, no, i'm not. frankly, this is the way of the world now in britain, and it's extremely worrying. i mean, it isn't just on this occasion. you've got rotherham and rochdale where the police did not intervene or investigate or prosecute until absolutely forced to do so by the times newspaper. and this is the problem across this is when we talk about two tier policing. it

isn't just happening now. it's been happening for a very long time. >> okay. thank you very much, nigel, trevor and graham, thank you very much for joining us. superb debate. now. now the homelessness crisis is literally on the government's doorstep. sleeping rough in westminster is on the rise. and guess what. more than half of them immigrants. let's

next. welcome back to gb in tonight's with me martin daubney. now as mps return to parliament today, they're being told by charities that homelessness is a political choice . london's number of rough choice. london's number of rough sleepers has now surpassed pre—pandemic levels and according to reports, it has risen by an astonishing 39% within the past year alone. now, the matter has been exacerbated through the influx of foreign nationals because over half of the homeless people in london are now from abroad, many of whom have been granted refugee

status. well, the issue remains a remains and a fresh, bold attitude from the current class of politicians is needed to make any form of progress. well, joining me now to discuss this is the former labour adviser, matthew talbot, who himself was homeless as a teenager. matthew, always a pleasure to have you in the studio before we turn to the detail of this report, homelessness as a political choice, i'm assuming that sticks in your craw. >> no, i think i think it could be argued it's a political choice. and i'll tell you why. because during the covid pandemic, we housed everybody we insured for public safety reasons, and rightfully so, that people were put in hotels now, albeit temporarily . but it albeit temporarily. but it showed to me that if the political will is there, it could be done. and i think the government of today and the government of today and the government of today and the government of previous years would say, you know what? it's totally unsustainable. it's going to cost us a lot of money. i sort of think, well, that's on you because successive governments haven't invested in enough social housing. they haven't tackled things like

renters reform haven't invested in preventative measures, particularly for people coming out of social care, people coming out of prison , those that coming out of prison, those that have come in through the wrong end of the asylum system, a whole manner of things, as well as the large cuts made to local authority budgets . authority budgets. >> and matthew, that brings me to our next point. you you echo a sentiment made by many, many thousands of gb news viewers . if thousands of gb news viewers. if we can find £8 million a day to house asylum seekers, why can't we find that money to house our homeless? but they would say to house british homeless? there's no denying these numbers are astonishing. 55.4% of all, of all people sleeping rough in britain, in london. now, beg your pardon , are immigrants. your pardon, are immigrants. surely you could halve the problem in london if you just had tighter border control? >> maybe so, but it doesn't for me. you're just sort of moving. moving the problem on a little bit more . because what do you bit more. because what do you still do with those that are still do with those that are still homeless, regardless of what nationality they are? and i think the main thing is, and i

will always say this, is that there needs to be greater investment in preventative measures. and this is homelessness is something that touches on all levels of government departments. it's obviously a lot healthier for the health department. if somebody is in a house, if somebody is in a house, if somebody is in a house, if somebody is housed, they're more likely to be in work, therefore contributing towards the exchequer and towards tax and national insurance. and that those that are coming out of the justice system, they're having help finding their way into temporary accommodation or otherwise, and therefore not on the streets, potentially reoffending. reoffending costs us £20 billion a year, impacts all different levels. and i think , you know, tighter borders think, you know, tighter borders may may play a case, but ultimately we're still failing our own people . our own people. >> well they, they the picture you just watching on your screen there, by the way. that's that's an encampment at park lane. that's london's most expensive postcode. now i go past this most days on my way to work the community camping out there, they don't get moved on. they don't get shoved around by the mayor of london. and i wonder why that is. well, i will tell you that everybody on that site

is from abroad, an immigrant. and they they're camping out there in the most expensive part of britain. and i've got to say, often i walk past, they're having a barbecue, they're drinking beers. i'm not saying that they're having the life of riley, but why aren't they being moved on? it's an eyesore. they leave rubbish everywhere and it gives a bad name to it. sends out a bad message to british taxpayers. >> so i can't tell you why they've not been moved on. that's ultimately up for the mayor of london to sort of answer to. i'll tell you why. they're probably there is because they probably feel safe. that's got to be one of the most well protected postcodes in the country. and i'll tell you why. feeling safe is important. when ispent feeling safe is important. when i spent time on the streets, i cannot tell you the fear that still stays within you when you're in a city centre. you're bedding down for the night and you hear the shuffle of footsteps growing closer and closer. you hear the drunk and angry voices getting louder and louder, and you're almost flinching, waiting for that kick in the face or for somebody to

urinate on you. they're not going to get towards them in that central reservation. so that's probably why. okay. >> matthew torbett, thank you. we have to leave it there. and i'm joined in studio by jacob rees—mogg. of course. state of the nation is up next. what's on your menu? >> it is indeed. >> it is indeed. >> well, we're going to talk about the fact that the labour party hates the economy, that it is only supporting its friends. so if you're a trade unionist, you're getting lots of money. but if your business, you're getting lots of regulation because it consumes employees, can't sign fair contracts. we're going to be doing that. and then i'm very pleased to say we've got an interview with henry newman, who's been calling for civil service reform and has exposed some of the sleaze around the labour civil service appointments, where cronies have been appointed donors have mysteriously got passes to downing street and he's arguing the case for civil service reform and for proper standards. >> is he also arguing, as you were, they should get back to work? >> well, i'm sure we'll touch on that. >> well, i'm sure we'll touch on that . we were discussing whether that. we were discussing whether larry the cat is the one civil servant who actually goes into work. >> so first up, jacob rees—mogg. always a pleasure. that's coming up straight after this show. matthew torbett, of course,

always a pleasure to have you in. thanks for your company tonight. now don't forget , if tonight. now don't forget, if you haven't had enough of me, i'll be back tomorrow, three till six on the martin daubney show. thanks for all your opinions. keep the messages coming in and it's now time for your weather with alex stegeman. don't forget. next up, state of the nation with jacob rees—mogg. have a great evening . have a great evening. >> looks like things are heating up. boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news >> good evening. welcome to your latest weather update from the met office here on gb news. we've seen some big thunderstorms through the day today. still a few rumbling on at the moment but they are going to fade overnight tomorrow. a mix of sunshine and showers and it is steadily turning fresher from the west. quite warm and humid though in places at the moment our air is coming up from the south, this low pressure generating the heavy thundery showers, steadily clearing from north—east scotland and then the northern isles. but some storms rumbling on as well into this evening over parts of the

midlands, northern england and wales . they should start to ease wales. they should start to ease through the early hours. still quite warm and humid and murky over central and eastern parts, but turning fresher and cooler further north and west. temperatures in parts of scotland well down into single figures, generally a fine and a sunny start across scotland tomorrow as well. certainly a much brighter, drier day across the north—east, but in western scotland a line of cloud and rain is creeping back in. that's extending down into northern ireland. so a pretty glum start to proceedings tomorrow here. quite a lot of mist and low cloud still across parts of england and wales as well, and still a few showers here. still keeping going through the morning, so you may wake up to a bit of a wet start here. and as we go through the day we could see some further heavy showers developing over parts of east anglia and maybe the far south—east of england still hit and miss, but some heavy downpours possible, particularly in the early afternoon . much of in the early afternoon. much of northern england, wales, southwest england, though drier and brighter compared to today and brighter compared to today and we'll still have some

outbreaks of rain coming into the far north—west, turning cooler and fresher. we could still get into the 20s across east anglia in the south—east and certainly a cooler, fresher start across eastern areas for wednesday morning. again, many places seeing plenty of sunny spells, but we will see more showers developing as we go through the day, particularly for wales and england. northern ireland not too many though , ireland not too many though, across scotland and temperatures much fresher feel by wednesday. high teens for most, a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on

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