happening in the future. >> the scottish government is to make half £1 billion worth of cuts, to according its finance secretary, shona robison told msps that scotland cannot ignore the severe financial challenges it faces. former prime minister bods it faces. former prime minister boris johnson has accused keir starmer of abandoning an ally as the government suspends some arms sales to israel. foreign secretary david lammy says the decision is based on a review, which found there was a clear risk that weapons might be used in a serious violation of international humanitarian law. mr lammy says 30 out of some 350 licences will be suspended, stressing it's not an arms embargo. at least 51 people have died in a missile strike in ukraine. more than 200 were wounded on tuesday when a military institute in the central town of poltava was hit

by two russian ballistic missiles to the tory leadership race. now, and tom tugendhat has launched his campaign, setting out his vision for the future of the party and the nation. the shadow security minister is one of six tory mps hoping to replace rishi sunak. he says he'll reset the party's relationship with the public while promising the return of honesty in politics. five children in leicestershire have been arrested over the murder of an 80 year old man. a boy and a girl, both 14, and one more boy plus two girls aged 12, have been arrested. the man, named in reports as bhimsen kohli, was walking his dog when he was seriously assaulted by a group of young people on sunday. later, he died in hospital . and later, he died in hospital. and lastly, sir elton john has revealed he has been left with only limited vision after a severe eye infection. the 77 year old shared on instagram that he could only see through

one eye, and that healing will take some time. the rocketman singer thanked doctors and his family for the care that has lasted weeks. those are your headunes lasted weeks. those are your headlines right now. back to patrick for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone , news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com >> forward slash alerts . >> forward slash alerts. >> forward slash alerts. >> welcome along. the gaza gang of five independent mps have ushered sectarian politics into britain. tory leadership hopeful kemi badenoch went out of her way to describe jeremy corbyn's cabal as well. a few things she actually did accuse them of being relatively islamist as well, which i know a lot of people were up in arms about. maybe she went a bit too far on that, but she certainly did raise the concern about whether or not now this is sectarian

politics in britain, but its members are jeremy corbyn, whose time as labour leader was dogged with constant allegations of anti—semitism. it's worth noting that our current prime minister tried to get jeremy corbyn elected, not once, but twice. leicester south mp shaukat adam well, he defeated labour frontbencher jonathan ashworth, a man described as a key campaigner for mr adam has now been charged with terrorism offences. he allegedly made several pro—hamas statements online. another mp, ayub khan , online. another mp, ayub khan, reportedly questioned the scale of hamas's atrocities on october the 7th and whether the terror group had beheaded babies or indeed committed rape. he was a lib dem at the time and that party said that he had agreed to go on anti—semitism training, which he has turned down, saying that there was no need. another one is adnan hussain. he reportedly said there was no difference between israel and isis. then of course , there's isis. then of course, there's iqbal mohammed, whose backers were accused of abuse and intimidation at the election and

allegedly told people you're not muslim if you vote labour. so it's a nice bunch, isn't it.7 i should point out that. shocker. adam says that that man didn't really have that much to do with his campaign, but they are now the independent alliance, aren't they? and they're putting massive pressure on labour. some of them were backed by the muslim vote group, which issued labour with a list of 18 demands before the election. those demands included things like adopting a new islamophobia definition that many feel is just a blasphemy law. they want shana just a blasphemy law. they want sharia compliant pensions and to remove michael gove's extremism definition. now, most people in britain will want to stand up to this kind of politics and weed it out. unfortunately i think that labour will probably just cave into it. let's get your thoughts on my panel this evening. i've got columnist and broadcaster esther krakue. we've got director of the centre for migration and economic prosperity, steven woolfe, and we've got political commentator as well, jonathan. less so, stephen, i'll start with you on

this. should we be worried about this. should we be worried about this gaza gang? is it sectarian politics in the house of commons now? >> well, there's two points i'd like to say about this. first of all, i wouldn't be worried about them in in parliament, a gang of five is not really going to achieve very much. we looked at that when we had the gang of four that separated in the late 80s, early 90s, and they didn't achieve much in politics at all. and such is the way that the house of commons is distributing power on committees, the way that it can influence who gets speaking time. where i do get concerns about, obviously in our countries where we do get the idea if it moves towards a sectarian view, that you're only in the politics just because in this case there are issues of palestine just in the same way that i would have had concerns with the ira just having issues about separating themselves from from britain, from ireland. so i think that element of sectarian politics that we've got has to be watched , has to be monitored, be watched, has to be monitored, see what influence and power they have. but in the house of

commons themselves, i don't think they're going to have any influence at all. >> yeah. i mean, i suppose certainly when it comes to the likes of jeremy corbyn, they've got a big following. and also, you know, this is the kind of thing that could gather momentum. and i just wonder, you know, this is britain, not gaza, isn't it? >> i mean, the wider implications are really about loyalties. so you know, the questions of whether someone from london would feel would, would be willing to die for his fellow countrymen . who's from fellow countrymen. who's from leeds. right. and there are questions of are you british first or are you something else first? and that's what that's what really concerns me because yes, okay. you can have concerns about the israeli—palestine conflict, which is perfectly normal , but i conflict, which is perfectly normal, but i don't really see these people at the forefront of sort of grooming gangs or the grooming gangs in northern england. right? they're very issue focused. and there's a reason behind that . and i think reason behind that. and i think the reason why sectarianism in politics, this kind of sectarianism in politics worries me is because will these people, if britain was invaded, die for you and me? and the question doesn't seem to be yes, because they're only focused on this one issue and they feel more affiliated with, with the people and concerning this issue than with actually britain. and i

think that has no role in british politics. >> the local demographics there say it all really, don't they? and i think this is one of the concerns that is. but there are also bigger questions. >> that's why on british policy, why, why, why are there loads of people in this country that don't actually feel connected to britain? i think there is a case to be made that actually integration and the case for feeling and being british and adopting british values haven't really been made because these communities have been allowed to the gang of five. >> but i see it within the labour party, i see it within the liberal democrats. i see it across different spectrums. and younger people in particular, who would not die for britain if we needed to. >> okay, jonathan, i'll put it to you that this is actually quite a big problem for sir keir starmer because, you know, it was a lazy trope, i thought, by rishi sunak to continuously go on about jeremy corbyn in the run up to the last election, but actually now you've got corbyn, who's hopped into bed with some absolute froot loops, some would say some of them with very, very, very troubling views, actually. and keir starmer did try to get that guy elected twice . twice. >> i mean, i think it's just a stupid argument. you can have the same argument about the conservatives trying to elect bofis conservatives trying to elect boris johnson , who's also boris johnson, who's also completely discredited. oh my

goodness, liz truss . i don't goodness, liz truss. i don't think that's a useful game. jeremy corbyn was the leader of the labour party at the time. labour mps were perfectly capable of saying they had reservations about jeremy corbyn, while still believing that a labour government was preferable to a conservative one, did i say that at the time people said that, you know, people said that, you know, people said that a labour government was preferable to a conservative one, that's certainly what i said at the time. jeremy corbyn was never someone that i wanted to be leader of the labour party, not because i disagreed with most of his platform, but i thought that he had too much personal and political baggage to be leader. but i kind of just think that we need to go back a bit and i'm not entirely sure that i understood what you were saying, esther, a second ago about mps being prepared to die for their country , because i don't think country, because i don't think of the 650 mps we've got, the majority would sort of go forth in battle to risk their life. >> and that's the principle. that's the principle. you're assuming that if you're choosing to represent this country, that you would be willing to put your life at to die for this country.

i think the wider implications is when you see this rise of sectarian politics, there's clearly a sign that there are people in this country that don't feel british first. like i said, you can absolutely have opinions about the israel—gaza conflict. most people do, whether they want to or not. but the question is we have loads of particularly young men in this country that do not feel that the tebbit religion than with their nationality, the norman tebbit test. >> but i think it's gone a lot further than the norman tebbit test. this is my point. we've not only just had huge influx of millions of people from different parts of the world who will come here, who regard themselves as being more of the country that they've come from, rather than the values of those values. >> exactly . >> exactly. >> exactly. >> that's the difference impacted across this. like we're pulling down statues and that's an element of where this comes into. and i think, jonathan, it is something that we have to assess is whether people really feel that they want to represent this country and defend it in many ways. and i'm right with you. i agree with you. not a single one of the mps that we've got would actually put themselves up. for those who've beenin themselves up. for those who've been in the military, if you suffered just charlatans, things

like you're not a muslim, if you vote for labour, that is overt sectarian religious politics that has no place in britain. >> but it is in the house. >> but it is in the house. >> you might vote for labour because you believe in a stronger welfare state or you believe in, you know, fairer rights for workers or whatever. so when someone makes that statement that that's why there should be concern, not because not because , you know, they are not because, you know, they are not because, you know, they are not allowed to have opinions about other conflict or whatever. who comes first? is it britain? >> i don't think it's i don't think it's a useful metric. i don't think it's a useful metric to say that certain people come first. there are a lot of british jews who find that question incredibly offensive when it's put to them about, well, who would you support in a war between israel and the uk, which makes it sound like a football match? people have different loyalties and different loyalties and different identities in the uk , different identities in the uk, and if you if you expect the uk to protect you, there's an implicit contract that you also are bound to the country that you live in. well, i mean, what i mean people will pay, people will pay taxes to this country, they will follow the laws, but they will follow the laws, but they can certainly feel they can, they can, they can support. >> i would be willing i would be

willing to die to protect you as my fellow countrymen. i wouldn't be willing to die to protect the libyan people, for example. no, but that's different . but that's different. >> people can. but what it seems almost what you're arguing about is jul arguing. >> it's not about dual citizenship, it's about loyalty where people can be loyalty to different people, can have different people, can have different identities and feel loyalty to different countries. >> one must come home. no, i don't think so . i don't think so. 50. >> so. >> primary element. >> primary element. >> but also i don't think it's really what we're talking about. actually, i think it's a distraction. what we're talking aboutis distraction. what we're talking about is mps who've been elected fairly democratically by their constituents over whether or not one of them was they were they were elected by, well, i don't i don't know what you're talking aboutin don't know what you're talking about in that case, but you they were elected by constituents who rightly or wrongly, cared very, very strongly about a particular issue that they felt were not being addressed sufficiently by give you an example of something that might take precedence. >> they might they might say they're voting for this particular mp because he wants a ceasefire in gaza. fine. but the values that that particular mp might have, in addition to his position on gaza, might be actually, i don't think, i don't think gay marriage is right, or he might be homophobic or he

might , he he might be homophobic or he might, he might, he might, he might, he might, he might, he might have views that are incompatible with british values. and this is why i say loyalties matter. because at the end of the day, british values. >> well, no, but hold on. >> well, no, but hold on. >> but but the thing is, britain is a lot further ahead than genuinely homophobic countries where you can be stoned for being gay. so my argument is where do your loyalties lie? because at some point you have to say, actually , my loyalties to say, actually, my loyalties are with british values and therefore i'm not going to bring my home. we have to go deeper than tendencies to this country. >> we have to. >> we have to. >> that's the point i'm making. >> that's the point i'm making. >> we have to go deeper than british values. >> british values are many of those values that we say that we have are actually replicated across different parts of, of the world and, and the continent. i think we have to go also to our history and our culture, and it has to go to who we are as a nation state. and if you're not willing to support the nation state when it comes into conflict with other areas, and i agree with it can create problems. >> but stephen, i'm not sure why where this argument is coming from. who is talking about invading britain and mps being particularly disloyal? >> it's the example of these five mps whether and this is the

point from is whether they would actually be supportive of ourselves as a nation and would they actually and just on that, it's quite interesting. that's about whether they believe that it's quite interesting because because, because they've now got the same number of mps as reform. >> and there was this massive media hoo ha about reform where you've got all these, these, these, these five white men now who are centre right and they, you know , there's going to be a you know, there's going to be a problem. that was that was what they said they were, they were calling them all far. right. and all of this stuff. right. you know, that's going to be a massive problem for britain. this isn't it. meanwhile we've now got, you know, the gaza bngade now got, you know, the gaza brigade who are in their fronted up brigade who are in their fronted ”p by brigade who are in their fronted up by a bloke who was very nearly the actual prime minister of this country, and supported by the bloke who is currently the prime minister of this country and a load of labour backbenchers. jonathan, who actually agree with a heck of a lot of what this lot have to say. so it's all very well and good saying, you know, fine. there's only five of them in our political system is geared against them having a massive influence, but actually they can table amendments, they can table motions, they can table votes on things. and that really could

well see the labour party. >> that's their right. >> that's their right. >> yeah it is. but the problem is, is that i think a huge amount of the labour backbenchers will probably quite agree with them. and then that can really shape things like our foreign policy for example, that can shape various things. it could shape things like the new islamophobia definition that is apparently coming around the corner , which is essentially, in corner, which is essentially, in my view, a blasphemy law by the back door. >> well, patrick, let's just be real about this. labour has a huge, huge majority. the vast majority of the labour left has been purged already. there are a few. there are about seven seven mps on the left who've literally been kicked out of the party for the next six months at least. so keir starmer has a whip hand in the labour party and across parliament to do whatever he wants. if the labour party wants to change the definition of islamophobia and i don't know the details of that, then they can do that if they want to change their policy on gaza or keep it the same, they can do that as well. there's a very, very limited amount that any kind of parliamentary grouping that's not the labour party can actually do. and whether and whether that's right or wrong, that's just the way it is. so i think you're you're vastly overstating the influence of five mps. look, i don't like the fact that there are five reform

mps, but i accept that they were elected legitimately and they'll have influence commensurate to their number in parliament and their number in parliament and the electorate will judge in five years how much they've done. >> i hope you're right. you're certainly much more optimistic about this cabal of five than i am. and the influence they may well , may am. and the influence they may well, may well have. but we will have to wait and see, don't we? a lively start, thank you very much. still to come, a jihadi knifeman has been given an indefinite hospital order. that's despite stabbing a woman in the neck and another in the back during a violent pro—palestine knife rampage. so is this yet another example of soft justice? and surely, and this is the main point for me. surely anyone who does this kind of stuff is mentally ill, right? by definition, if you are in some way an islamist, you are mentally ill. all right, well, if this person can now swerve prison because he can officially be classed as mentally ill, well, what does this mean going forward? so emma webber, whose son's killer also received an indefinite hospital order, joins me very, very soon. shed a bit more light on this. be interesting to get get her views, i think. but up next, not

satisfied with ripping away pensioners fuel payments now the chancellor, rachel reeves, has today been urged to raise the retirement age from 66 to 68. so has labour gone to war with old people going head to head on that journalist lowri turner and

welcome back to patrick christys tonight. and coming up after a jihadi knife man was given an

indefinite hospital order, is this yet another example of soft justice? what precedent does this set ? but justice? what precedent does this set? but has labour gone to war with older people? it's time now for the head to head . so not now for the head to head. so not content with ripping away their winter fuel payments, the chancellor, rachel reeves, has today been urged to force workers to retire later to free up funding for other public services and, quote, reduce misery in britain. yep, that's right. a report published today by the london school of economics has recommended raising the state pension age from 66 to 68, ahead of the government's first budget next month. well, it comes after angela rayner refused to rule out scrapping the single person discount for council tax. now this is important. discount for council tax. now this is important . why? well, this is important. why? well, because it would disproportionately affect the millions of pensioners that live alone. so they are the biggest demographic of people who will be affected by that. so tonight i am asking, has labour gone to

war with older people ? let me war with older people? let me know your thoughts. go to gbnews.com/yoursay, tweet me @gbnews and make sure you go and vote in our poll. but first, going head to head on this are the journalist lowri turner and the journalist lowri turner and the labour activist susie stride . the labour activist susie stride. both of you, thank you very much. great to have you on the show as ever, laurie, i'll start with you. has labour gone to war with you. has labour gone to war with old people? >> yes, absolutely. i think one of the things you didn't mention, of course, is it's not just gone towards older people, particularly older women. i mean, we've heard a lot about the waspi women who, were very badly financially impacted by the really rapid rise in pensionable age for women, which has gone from 60, obviously, to currently 66. it's about to be 67. but if you add another year, it's women who get impacted by that. now, i don't quite know why she's decided that old women are the people to attack on this, unless she's listening to kind of teenagers. i've got teenagers in my house and they spend their entire time talking about boomer this, boomer that, as if like there's some kind of golden age that people over 60

were young and they had everything free, and it was marvellous . and when you need to marvellous. and when you need to point out to these young people, actually, who is the one on the whole paying the bills and these houses that they're living in because they haven't gone anywhere, they're still at home. it's us, older people. if you think about who's providing the childcare, it's older people. there are many , many pensioners there are many, many pensioners who are. and one third of pensioner women rely only on the state pension. but many other people older people have are having to stay in work longer and longer because the state pension is so poor. this idea that there's this massive number of wealthy pensioners who can well afford to lose things like winter fuel payments and wait another year for their pension, is just kind of teenage logic. logic. it's not grown up at all. >> i do think the teenager side of it does just crack me up because, you know, demographically speaking, a lot of them seem to be really, really pro mass migration, all of that as well. and then they moan about the idea there's nowhere to live and that the older generations find it easier to get on the property ladder. and it's like, you know, think about it. but anyway, susie,

i'll bring you in now. labour activist. yeah. i mean, it does look a bit like labour has gone to war with the elderly. doesn't it, >> i don't think so. i think you can think in different ways. i think ultimately, in difficult economic times, you have to make difficult decisions. and i think we have, you know, increased life expectancy. >> and actually this is not a party political debate. >> the conservatives were encouraging this, and we're not yet saying we're going to do it, >> it is a debate within the party. >> but when you look at lots of other countries, lots of other countries have done this. i do agree with, the other lady on, on debating today that i think you do need to treat women differently. >> so for me that's a standard . >> so for me that's a standard. you know, i think, you know, experts have already said that. and research has said that for different reasons. i think ultimately people are living longer. and interestingly, there are lots of health benefits. experts are saying, because people, lots of people do retire and actually it's not always good for their health that

they've retired. so with people living longer, which is effectively what is happening, that's the fact people staying in work longer can mean purpose can be for , good you know, can be for, good you know, cognitive, mental, social, mental health and all these things. now obviously that does need to be balanced up. there is a reason why firefighters have an earlier retirement age . there an earlier retirement age. there are certain jobs which i think absolutely, if this decision is made, which is no one's saying it's going to be made, but it's this decision is made, you would need to have flexibility within it for certain jobs, maybe more physical jobs, etc. so i don't think it should be blanket, but i think ultimately this is the economic reality. and i think ultimately when you are in difficult economic times , you do difficult economic times, you do have to make tough decisions. >> but i will say, though, that at the moment, you know, we've had this the scrapping of the winter fuel payment for some elderly people. i mean, this one now, i actually think is possibly it's possibly the biggest story that's coming down

the track, which is angela rayner refusing to rule out scrapping the single person discount for council tax, which would disproportionately affect millions of pensioners actually, as well disproportionately affect millions of female pensioners because, well, statistically , unfortunately, statistically, unfortunately, i'm sorry to say this, there's quite a lot of widows out there . quite a lot of widows out there. right. so they tend to be the ones who are who are living alone. and so if they're picking up the tab for that , because up the tab for that, because we've got a poor economy, you know, and then on top of that, then you get, you get this going on with the retirement age going up and again, it's the elderly. you might have to wait for their pensions because we've got a poor economy. it does feel like it's all lowering being, being laid at the doormat of people who are now of a certain age where it's a bit too late for them to do anything about it. >> yeah. and i don't support women being treated differently. i think that actually we should have equality. i'm just pointing out the fact that actually women have been treated quite badly in the past. i don't think we should be, but i apply for some kind of special grant because i'm female. oh, great. i'll grovel for some more money when

i'm 67, 68, 69, i think. of course , difficult choices have course, difficult choices have to be made, but difficult choices about paying public sector workers more, that doesn't seem to be a difficult choice. they just did that. whereas old people appear to be a very easy target because of this, the narrative developed , this, the narrative developed, which is that intergenerational divide, young people, you know, have no money and old people have no money and old people have lots of money. well, yes, there are pensioner millionaires, but there are so many more people who , when many more people who, when you're 60, 65, 70, 75, you're not in a position to work. i mean, i would say we had some figures out recently talking about the growth in self—employment over 60. it's massively growing now. that's not because people fancy starting a business at 60. it's because nobody wants to employ you. you try and get a job as a man or a woman over 60. it's quite difficult. so you're either faced with very low paid work for years and years, waiting desperately for the pension which we've paid for. we have contributed. >> i do also think there's a big

social stigma as well, because, you know, you are seeing younger people in positions of management. and actually, i think instead of respecting our elders and the accumulated life wisdom that has come with that, there's actually i think you were alluding to, dare i say it, larry, with some of the teenagers, maybe in your house, which is to cast that aside, you know, you're out of touch. you don't understand it and all of that. but but, susie, i'll bring you in on this. this is a point that larry was alluding to there. so there are choices that labour has made. they've made a choice to borrow £3.1 billion in july to go and pay the unions. we now currently have. i think it's £8 billion a year for unemployed or economically inactive migrants in the uk. we also now know that the illegal immigrants annually bill is in the billions of pounds, not just the, you know, whatever it was 50 or 60 odd million that they'd originally budgeted for it. so we're okay to pay for that , but we're okay to pay for that, but we're okay to pay for that, but we're not okay to pay for the elderly that is a choice, isn't it? the labour are making . it? the labour are making. >> i think there are choices to be made , but i think, you know,

be made, but i think, you know, things like the nhs is really important to elderly people and we are going to massively invest in the nhs, you know, and i also think to elderly people it's important that i mean, my, my, my parents are in that category. it's really important to them that their grandchild has a teacher, a teacher that's well paid and that we're attracting teachers into the workforce. that which hasn't been happening for the last ten years under the conservatives. these are important things that we're saying. we're just throwing out money. we're not throwing out money. we're not throwing out money. we're not throwing out money. we're saying, teachers, we want you to be well paid nurses. we want you to be well paid. and actually, my most the grandparents i know actually do care about those things. so i don't think we're just doing things in a kind of silly, unwise way. and i do think lots of the decisions we are making actually, you know, elderly people, you know, are for those things, like i say, investing in the nhs, even things like bus services. i ran for parliament. one of the things that lots of elderly people used to say to me is loneliness is the biggest

thing. this woman telling me that the bus will come and that's, you know , these are all that's, you know, these are all things that aren't small. things are going to change the lives of elderly people. so i think you've got to see the bigger picture here, that that we're not just taking things away. there's lots of things that we are doing that are going to improve the lives of elderly people. and the record of the last labour government is a million pensioners lifted out of poverty. the tories didn't do that. that was us. not forget that. that was us. not forget that record. >> i think i think i think just purely from a purely political perspective, though labour will have a job on their hands to try to change this narrative because it's easy for people to try to make the argument that because statistically, people of a certain age don't necessarily vote labour, that they've decided to cast them aside. i know that labour will deny this and people will deny that. but, you know, if you can make that argument, that can be a problem for them at the next election. but both of you look, thank you very much. really great points on either side there. and great to have you both on the show. really appreciate it. as journalist larry turner there in the labour activist susie strider, who do you agree with as labour gone to war with pensioners? dave on x says older people have contributed enough to society and they're being punished by labour. there are

people who've never contributed anything, but they get handed everything from the state and it's not fair. everything from the state and it's not fair . alan, on your say it's not fair. alan, on your say says labour are only attacking pensioners because they tend to vote tory. they've got nothing to lose, there you go. gavin says raising the pension age is actually an attack on younger people. they will have to work longer. it's a good point that gavin, your verdict is in 97% of you think that labour has gone to war with pensioners, 3% of you say they have not. i've got loads on tonight. actually so it's a really big show. this a record number of people applied to change their gender last year after the price of doing so dropped to less than the price of a pint . if dropped to less than the price of a pint. if you've got a dropped to less than the price of a pint . if you've got a fiver of a pint. if you've got a fiver in your pocket, you can legally change gender basically, which is, you know, a bit mad . but is, you know, a bit mad. but with labour promising to simplify the process even further and what are they going to do, knock it down to £2.50? as keir starmer left vulnerable young people at the mercy of the trans lobby, trans teacher debbie hayton isn't happy about it. she joins me live soon. but first, well, he stabbed two

innocent women during a vicious pro—palestine rampage. but a jihadi knifeman yesterday avoided prison, receiving an indefinite hospital order instead. is there justice in britain? and what kind of precedent does this set? surely anyone with an ideology is mentally unwell? emma webber, whose son's also received an indefinite order, joins me soon. stay

welcome back to patrick christys tonight. coming up, will keir starmer sacrifice thousands of vulnerable young children to the trans lobby? but first, a jihadi knifeman who went on a near—deadly rampage has been given an indefinite hospital order after he was found guilty of attempted murder and wounding following a trial last year. munawar hussain stabbed the manager of burnley's town centre, marks and spencer branch , centre, marks and spencer branch, in the neck before chasing her through the shop. he stabbed another customer as well. this was back in 2020. police later found a note written in urdu which suggested that hussain believed that m&s was funding israel and its war on gaza. he then also later pleaded guilty to a further attempted murder charge. he attacked a male nurse at a secure unit. he was being held at. now. he believed that the nurse had converted from islam to christianity . he islam to christianity. he thought that was wrong. he called him a pig and tried to stab him to death with a knife,

but following a diagnosis of schizophrenia, psychosis and can i just say, this is the bit that i just say, this is the bit that i really don't understand evidence of a paranoid, delusional belief around religion, which is surely islamism, isn't it? islamist terrorism? anyway, the judge sentenced hussain to an indefinite hospital order. so he's not he's not doing any prison time. well, i'm joined now by emma webber, whose son barnaby was sadly killed alongside two others by valdo calocane. he received an indefinite hospital order for his crimes. that was in nottingham. in the case that i'm sure every single person sadly remembers, emma, thank you very much for joining remembers, emma, thank you very much forjoining us tonight. much for joining us tonight. look, can you shed a bit of light on what indefinite hospital orders mean for you? because for me, if someone goes out and commits a crime like this, by definition they are mentally unwell. all right? but that doesn't mean that they shouldn't go to prison . shouldn't go to prison. >> yeah , absolutely. it's. i'm >> yeah, absolutely. it's. i'm no expert in the law in medicine

or in the criminal justice system, but i'm i'm fast learning that there are some, some major, major flaws within all of those that unfortunately have culminated in the loss of my son and grace and ian, but yes, the hospital order is just that. it's sending somebody as a patient to a hospital for treatment. there's no element of that which is penal, which is a punishment. so calocane , has punishment. so calocane, has manipulated and managed to use his mental illness, which we have never disputed, that he does have a mental illness, as you're quite right, does have a mental illness, as you're quite right , patrick. does have a mental illness, as you're quite right, patrick. you would do something like this in their right mind. nobody would. right. it's not an act of retaliation or an accident or a moment in time. this was this was thoroughly planned . the same was thoroughly planned. the same as the awful case that you've just been talking about. so it's so wrong that this lighter

sentencing with no punishment can be, can be handed down. and it happens time and time again. and indefinite doesn't mean indefinite. it means almost anything but that 87% of indefinite hospital orders are out within ten years, and 98% within 20. so pretty much you're going to be out. yeah sorry. >> no no, no, it's a good point to kind of jump in on really because that's the other thing, isn't it? which is that like actually conceivably when people decide that these people are better, that they can be they can be released and you know, it for me , it's the precedent that for me, it's the precedent that this sets. right? so if you commit one of the kind of most heinous, barbaric actions like , heinous, barbaric actions like, you know, what we saw in nottingham there and what we very nearly saw in marks and spencen very nearly saw in marks and spencer, no one died. fortunately but, you can surely you can find a doctor to say you're mental and then that can be used in court, and then you

find yourself in a hospital and not a prison. and this just seems to be happening more and more now. more how. >> more now. >> yeah . i more now. >> yeah. i think as you more now. >> yeah . i think as you alluded >> yeah. i think as you alluded to, our cases , sadly, still very to, our cases, sadly, still very high profile in the public. but i guess the upside of that is that all of the all of the misleading information, all of the failures are, have been brought to the fore. and we're continuing to challenge all of them, which is why we'll end up with a public inquiry. and that's already been confirmed. and we need to ensure it's a statutory judge led one, so that people that gave evidence which led to this outcome are held to account. we know, we know for a fact. calocane is in his secure unit. he is in a high secure unit. he is in a high secure unit. i was shocked when i read the piece about this gentleman you were talking about today . the piece about this gentleman you were talking about today. he was actually put in a medium secure unit, when he then went on to attack the nurse. i mean, thatis on to attack the nurse. i mean, that is just it's just horrific to even think about. but, the reason calocane who is a murderer, an ill murderer is in

the hospital is because his diagnosis, was to be so thought of, to be so severe that he was treatment resistant and there was an awful lot of sway put on this in the sentencing hearing from the eminent psychiatrist who was representing the cps. so actually prosecuting, we now have found out following the cqc investigation and actually admissions from the calocane family themselves and their expose on panorama that he wasn't treatment resistant, which would infer that it didn't work. so he had to go to a hospital. he was actually resisting taking his treatment. we now know, thanks to his brother, who so kindly said at the end of panorama , he's got the end of panorama, he's got his brother back now because he's responding to treatment and he's responding to treatment and he's actually responding to the treatment that he has been , treatment that he has been, prescribed all along. this isn't the next level up that was was put in front of the judge. so yes, i guess justice lord turner had no choice but to do this.

but it's utterly wrong and it has to be looked at. and if it's the last thing i do on this earth is i will stop it happening again. if there's any way i can. and if we can overturn justice and get accountability for calocane and those who did so wrong , then we will. >> yeah. well, indeed. i mean, i don't doubt that you are, you know, a fantastic advocate for your late son and also for other people who, unless something does change, will very unfortunately no doubt find themselves in a similar situation to you and your family and the others around it. and, you know, we can't have that. so, emma, thank you very much as even so, emma, thank you very much as ever. and i do wish you all the best. as you know, and hope to hope to speak to you again soon and maybe , maybe one day we'll and maybe, maybe one day we'll be talking about you, you know, getting getting the result that you're after. >> but soon we will we will give, give us a few few months, maybe a couple of years. all right . a couple of years. all right. >> okay. well, we'll be here. so you take care. all right. so i'm just going to read out something. so, chief superintendent sarah kenwright of counter terrorism policing nonh of counter terrorism policing north west said, our subsequent

investigation and ultimately today's sentencing means that hussain will remain in a safe place for him to get the treatment he needs and that the pubuc treatment he needs and that the public are safe from the threat that he clearly posed that day. i'm sorry, but that is incredibly concerning for me to hear this guy okay was infused by radical islamism. there can be no question of that. all right. he then acted on that. not once, not twice, but three times. okay, three times. that is a mental illness. being being an islamist is a mental illness in itself. all right. so if anyone now decides that they're anyone now decides that they're an islamist, can they be done and sent to a hospital as opposed to going to prison? i find it unbelievably concerning that this is where we are in modern britain. but coming up, israel and america have accused david lammy of rewarding hamas by banning arms sales to the country. i'm going to have a look at david lammy, his record actually, and pose the question whether or not he's a complete disaster. i tackle that at ten plus. what was this christian man arrested for protesting against? >> have a right to my job. i

have a right to work here. he has a right. i have a right to be here and bernard's gender change applications are trebled. >> you can now change gender for less than the price of a pint, and labour, remarkably, wants to make that easier. are they going to put vulnerable kids at risk? transgender teacher and journalist debbie h ayton hayton thinks this shows are in the midst of

next. welcome back. a record number of people applied to legally change their gender last year. now labouris their gender last year. now labour is preparing to make the process even simpler. so 86% of the 1397 applications were approved by the gender recognition panel, made up of doctors and lawyers. the figure has trebled since 2020 2021, dnven has trebled since 2020 2021, driven , unsurprisingly, by driven, unsurprisingly, by millennials and gen z. and it comes after the application fee

to obtain a gender recognition certificate was slashed from £140 to just £5. well, the labour government's proposals to simplify the process include requiring sign off from only one doctor and removing the need for applicants to prove they have actually lived in their new genden actually lived in their new gender. so i could i could just do it tomorrow basically. so to discuss this, i'm joined by transgender teacher and journalist debbie hayes. and debbie, great to see you. thanks for coming on the show. and is there a risk here now that we actually push children in this direction in a way that we were maybe hoping we'd moved against? >> well, talking about young people in particular, people under 25, it's not a risk. it's actually happening. of those applications you talked about, almost 200 were from people under the age of 25. >> yeah, indeed. so okay. where's this coming from? okay. so was it the case, do you think that for generations there were millions of people who were

genuinely walking around really wrestling with the idea that they had been born into the wrong body and all of this stuff? or is this something that maybe children are learning or being pushed in a particular direction, or digesting through , direction, or digesting through, through, through tv or film? i don't know what's going on. >> well, there's something very strange going on, and it's not always the same thing, whereas in the past, the people who transitioned and applied for grcs were typically middle aged men in their in their 40s, not the group of youngsters and particularly girls that we're seeing now. but there seems to be an absolute lack of professional curiosity among among doctors and people signing these these reports off as to why this is going on. and it seems to me that it's a completely different, different, different effect happening in, in youngsters. but it just seems

to be all these people think they're born in the wrong body , they're born in the wrong body, sign off, sign for off diagnosis of gender dysphoria . and, and as of gender dysphoria. and, and as i wrote this morning, bob's your aunt. >> bob's your aunt. yeah. very very well put. and i. look, i know this anecdotally from speaking to friends of mine , speaking to friends of mine, etc, who are are women who went through girls schools and that kind of thing. and unfortunately, things were quite common then things like, you know, aspects of self—harm or eating disorders , and they were eating disorders, and they were often dealt with or told, you know, these are wrong and there was some kind of help provided. i wonder if, especially when it comes to young girls. now, the trans thing is , is a bit of a trans thing is, is a bit of a fad, but it's not being pushed back on for fear of people saying you're a transphobe if you do that, it's almost actually been reinforced. >> well, yes, it's an identity that that young people cling to. whereas in the past, identifying as a transsexual, there was a

degree of social stigma that came with that, to actually do that was, was was risking your livelihood at times. whereas now it seems to be something that's celebrated . and if you haven't celebrated. and if you haven't got an identity , then have a got an identity, then have a trans identity. i just wonder exactly what is going on here. and the fact that people can then apply for a gender recognition certificate. and please, patrick, ignore what's said about it being hard, difficult , said about it being hard, difficult, dehumanising, try applying for means tested benefits. then you might come across a difficult process that is potentially dehumanising. but this is straightforward. this is putting together a series of documents , including two medical documents, including two medical reports , which can be you can go reports, which can be you can go to private providers and pay the fee and they'll they'll provide those reports. and that goes off to a panel. and then with that you can then change your birth certificate and, and change change the past effectively . now change the past effectively. now i just don't see why people

think they need to do that in the in these days , this, this, the in these days, this, this, this is the, the irony that i've not got a grc. i just don't see why i need one. but if i was trying to, overrule the perceptions of others and force myself into spaces where i wasn't wanted, then suddenly that grc takes on a lot of, a lot of importance, it almost becomes a trump card because you can overrule other people's objections with it. but aside from that, i just don't see why people need one now. >> debbie, look, absolutely fascinating, concerning clearly , fascinating, concerning clearly, but fascinating. and this problem is not going away anytime soon, debbie, thank you very, very much . it's great to very, very much. it's great to have you on the show. it's great to see you again as well. see you again very soon. it's debbie hayton there who is a transgender teacher and journalist as well, friend of the show, it must be said, coming up at national pride in britain has taken a nosedive and increased diversity is being

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>> the pressure internationally must be directed at these killers at hamas , not at israel. killers at hamas, not at israel. >> david lammy is accused of helping hamas from the river to the sea. >> palestine will be free and we will not stop . will not stop. >> is our hapless foreign secretary. a dangerous disaster for britain also tonight, 12 migrants tragically died trying to cross the channel. are the charities in calais to blame for this? and oh, regina . regina, this? and oh, regina. regina, you faced fresh criticism for our patriotic anthem. no wonder national pride is plummeting in britain. is diversity to blame? jonathan gullace joins me live. >> plus, congratulations to italy's valentina petrillo, who today became the second trans athlete to complete a to team compete at the paralympics, once again, just showing how inclusive the paralympic games are. >> yeah , great. i mean, they

>> yeah, great. i mean, they only took the place of women and everything, but you know what? who cares? channel 4 slammed for celebrating the erasure of women. i'll also have the very first look at tomorrow's front pages with my panel. first look at tomorrow's front pages with my panel . broadcaster pages with my panel. broadcaster esther krakue, director at the centre for migration and economic prosperity. stephen wolfram, political commentator jonathan less. oh, and what thought crime has this man committed? >> i have a right to my job. i have a right to work here. he has a right. i have a right to be here and get ready. >> britain. here we go . >> britain. here we go. is david lammy the most incompetent foreign secretary we've ever had? next . we've ever had? next. >> patrick, your top stories tonight at 10:00, a pregnant woman is amongst 12 people to

have died while attempting to cross the english channel. dozens were dozens more aboard. dozens were dozens more aboard. dozens more were on board a boat that capsized near northern france with some 60 rescued by the coastguard. it's believed that ten of the 12 are female, including six minors, with most of the migrants on board from eritrea. french prosecutors have opened an investigation. border and security minister angela eagle said the gangs facilitating the crossings must be stopped. >> these dangerous boat crossings are being facilitated for financial reward by smuggling gangs who don't care about the safety of the people that they are cramming onto boats. often overcrowding onto boats. often overcrowding onto boats and forcing these dangerous crossings. and it's that that we've got to stop happening in the future . happening in the future. >> police in leicestershire have named an 80 year old man who died after being attacked while walking his dog in the park. a

post—mortem examination found bhim kohli died of a neck injury in hospital on sunday. a murder investigation has since been launched and five children, a boy and a girl aged 14, plus another boy and two girls aged 12, were arrested on suspicion of murder. police say the 14 year old boy remains in custody. the other four have been released with no further action. former prime minister boris johnson has accused keir starmer of abandoning an ally as the government suspends some arms sales to israel . foreign sales to israel. foreign secretary david lammy has said the decision is based on a review which found there was a clear risk weapons might be used in a serious violation of international humanitarian law. mr lammy says 30 out of some 350 licences will be suspended, stressing it's not an arms embargo . at least 51 people have embargo. at least 51 people have died in a missile strike in

ukraine. more than 200 were wounded on tuesday when a military institute in the central town of poltava was hit by two russian ballistic missiles . by two russian ballistic missiles. the by two russian ballistic missiles . the scottish missiles. the scottish government is to make half £1 billion in cuts, according to its finance secretary. shona robison told msps. scotland cannot ignore the severe financial challenges it faces to the tory leadership race now, and tom tugendhat has launched his campaign, setting out his vision for the future of the party and the nation. the shadow security minister is one of six tory mps hoping to replace rishi sunak. he says he'll reset the party's relationship with the public, while promising the return of honesty to politics. and lastly, tonight, sir elton john has revealed he's been left with only limited vision after a severe eye infection. the 77 year old shared on instagram that he could only see through

one eye, and that healing will take some time. the rocketman singer thanked doctors and his family for care that lasted weeks . those are your latest gb weeks. those are your latest gb news headlines. at 10:00. we'll be back in one hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . slash alerts. >> david lammy is facing allegations that he's unfit for office. i will forever be amazed that sir keir starmer saw this clip . clip. >> implication you're comparing the erg to the nazi party, or at least to the south african racists. now, whatever you think about the erg, that was an unacceptable comparison, wasn't it, andrew? >> i would say that that wasn't strong enough. >> yeah, and thought that he should be our foreign secretary. i will be forever amazed as well

that this man here as well. okay. all right. unfortunately, we've got a bit of an issue with those clips now, ironically, but whatever has managed to rise to the esteemed office of foreign secretary. but now he has, and his alleged incompetence will have real world consequences for all of us. yesterday, david lammy used his first big speech in government to say this certain uk arms exports to israel. >> there does exist a clear risk that they might be used to commit or facilitate a serious violation of international humanitarian law. i have informed my right hon. friend the business and trade secretary, and he is therefore today announcing the suspension of around 30 from a total of approximately 350. these include equipment that we assess is for use in the current conflict in gaza. >> yeah, that was on the day that israeli families were laying the bodies of hamas's hostages to rest. shocking

timing, isn't it? israel is our big democratic ally in the region, full of vile islamist nutcases who want to obliterate us and our way of life. as david lammy sided with those nutcases , lammy sided with those nutcases, israeli pm benjamin netanyahu certainly thinks so. he did write on x. this is a shameful decision. will not change israel's determination to defeat hamas, a genocidal terrorist organisation that savagely murdered 1200 people on october. the seventh, including 14 british citizens. hamas is holding over 100 hostages, including five british citizens. instead of standing with israel, a fellow democracy defending itself against barbarism, britain's misguided decision will only embolden hamas. well, who's our other biggest ally? well, it's the americans, isn't it? how do they feel? well they say that lammy lied to them. he assured them he wouldn't do this. he hasn't even managed to appease the far left , though, as appease the far left, though, as he, labour mp zara sultana is still calling for a full arms embargo. he'll never appease that lot . the only people mr

that lot. the only people mr lammy is pleased are hamas and he's delivered a master class in how to be a rubbish politician. but we all know why he and starmer did this, don't we? labour lost a lot of the muslim vote at the last election, and they'll keep doing things like this to try to appease them. i think it does beg the question who is really running britain? let's get a thought to my panel this evening. columnist and broadcaster esther krakow, director of the centre for migration and economic prosperity stephen wolf, and the political commentator jonathan lees. stephen, i'll start with you again on this. you know david lammy here. is he dangerously incompetent, do you think? >> i think it's dangerously stupid. foreign office politics to be able to isolate one of the allies that we have in the middle east in israel, in order to really support, as you quite rightly said, those voters that have left the labour party who've gone after the gang of five, for example, that we talked about earlier, who really want to no longer vote for the

labour party unless they are stronger on palestine. but as you've seen, the fact that he's only getting rid of a few weapons is hardly going to do any damage to israel in the long run. it'sjust any damage to israel in the long run. it's just really a shibboleth out to those people to try and say, look, we are listening. we are trying to do something. but i remember that scene from yes, prime minister where there was a discussion between the prime minister and the civil servant about selling arms to the red brigade terrorists. and the civil servant said at the end of the day, prime minister, we may not be selling some of them , but be selling some of them, but they'll get them anyway, because our business is business of britain to sell them to israel and israel will get them in there, and they will carry on doing this. but i think at the end of the day, he's made a massive mistake by not supporting. >> he's alienated everybody . >> he's alienated everybody. he's you know, he's angered the israelis, the americans are saying the source anyway, was coming out basically saying he's lied to them openly about it. he's not appeased the hard left whatsoever. and, you know, i

just don't quite understand why he's doing it. i mean, my view on this is that he's decided that he wants to try to appease the muslim vote in britain. >> well, i think david lammy is quite clearly out of his depth . quite clearly out of his depth. i think one of the things that we have to realise is what message does this send? he's saying that this is based on legal sort of quandary, that there's potential for sort of international human rights violation, but that doesn't really add up, because even if the question is that there is a potential, it hasn't been proven. so it's kind of like innocent until proven guilty. and also since 2021, britain has sent over £17 billion worth of arms to countries with proven human rights records. abuses like saudi arabia, like egypt , like saudi arabia, like egypt, like saudi arabia, like egypt, like qatar, like bahrain, like turkey. so there's an inconsistency in our foreign policy, which clearly makes this decision look political rather than legal. and then if it is political , who than legal. and then if it is political, who has he helped? no one in britain is happy. none of his, his allies or backbenchers are going to be happy because he's not calling for a complete ceasefire. this is only emboldening hamas, who are who are happy. but this, this isn't it. he's not saying we're not going to sell you arms unless

you call for a ceasefire. his excuse because i'm being very forensic about this. what he has said is this is because of the potential for international human rights violations. that's fine. but then we're going to look at this quite forensically. if that is the case, why are we still selling arms to the likes of the saudis? who does anyone remember the murder of jamal khashoggi? they chopped him up and barbecued him like a goat, basically at the back of the embassy in turkey. like, if we're selling arms to those people. i'm sorry. there's something inconsistent. we can all agree that we want the fighting to stop. i've been very critical of israel on many occasions. yeah, but we can also agree that hamas cannot be part of the equation moving forward. >> but it's also on top of that as well. and this is just emboldening. israel is basically our only ally in that region. we have now a shared enemy, and david lammy has just made that enemy very happy. >> it's not only not our only ally in the region, we're allies with many countries in the region. jordan look, a lot of those countries, i don't think we should be allied with. i actually think that we should have had an arms embargo against saudi arabia. look, lammy said. and i don't understand this

vendetta against david lammy. we've had in the last few years , we've had in the last few years, dominic raab and liz truss among our foreign secretaries . dominic raab and liz truss among our foreign secretaries. i'm very happy with david lammy in that company. >> but dominic raab, just to push back on that slightly, stopped a civil servant signing off gibraltar to the spanish without a shot being fired. so actually i'm quite happy we did have dominic. >> dominic raab, but we don't need to argue about dominic raab.i need to argue about dominic raab. i think most people think, i think we can agree with you completely. no. well that's i think we can agree. i think we can certainly agree on that point. we can certainly agree on that point. >> dominic raab and liz truss were much stronger than, say. >> absolutely. absolutely not. it's not about it's not a football match, stephen. it's not about who you support. >> i'll put this to you. right. i've got a little clip here which might which might, you know, beg to differ as to exactly how competent david lammy is as an individual. i think we can just say you're not going to play this. >> are you going? >> are you going? >> yeah. >> yeah. >> who acceded to the english throne at the age of nine on the death of his father, henry the eighth, in 1547? >> henry the seventh. >> henry the seventh. >> edward the sixth. >> edward the sixth. >> why like this? what be fit to be our foreign secretary?

>> because he didn't get a question right in mastermind. >> come on, i knew i knew you were going to play that video. i do, i do think there's something to be said about the fact that we're always talking about we don't want britain to be part of foreign wars. and the reason why there are so many refugees coming is because we've destabilised their countries in other regions, the ways to get out of foreign conflicts is to have strong allies around the world who can actually intercede when there are issues. israel being an ally is not just it's not just because, you know, we want sort of supporters in that region. it's also to keep us out of regions that are going to be increasingly destabilised. >> friendship is not about giving unconditional support to people. it's about standing up to people when necessary. that's not what it's not about. granting carte blanche for crimes against humanity, which the senior prosecutor at the icc has said netanyahu is like six hostages in the back of the head, and hamas has also been found liable. he's also recommended hamas to give war crimes. >> then israel will go and get the bodies back. and on the day that happens, david lammy decides with, along with keir starmer, when is there going to be, when is there going to be a

good time? we should do is withdraw some arms sales to israel. >> when is there going to be a good time for this? >> who and what is going to be happy about this particular decision? is david lammy happy about getting criticised from one side of his party, who is saying he has not gone far enough to those allies of ours in the united states and israel who are saying it's the wrong thing to do, and then the metrics, as you say, is that hamas are going to look as though that they've managed to succeed in persuading other countries to damage the relationships. i'm sorry , but i relationships. i'm sorry, but i kind of feel like i'm in a parallel universe. >> it's not about hamas. it's about does britain believe in international law? it should be about yes or no. does britain think that war crimes are good or bad? i hope the answer to that would be that britain would think war crimes are bad. and if israel is, if our own foreign office and the officials in the foreign office and the experts think hamas are committing war crimes. that's right. and we're not arming them either. patrick if the people in the foreign office are are sort of confident or suspicious that some british arms exports are being used in the service of war crimes, it is

actually legally incumbent upon the uk government to suspend those arms. now, this is a fraction of the total number of arms that is the uk is sending to israel anyway a fraction. >> and how are they deciding which particular arms are causing the so—called infractions of international parts of equipment? >> i think it should be. i think it should be a blanket. look this is not a left wing position. >> the nuts and bolts, the that well—known communist, pro—palestine activist margaret thatcher instituted an arms export and arms embargo on israel in the late 1980s, which lasted for five years. >> the other well—known communist and pro—palestine activist, tony blair, did something similar in the early 2000, bombed the middle east in the early 2000. >> yeah, i wouldn't necessarily bnng >> yeah, i wouldn't necessarily bring him into this before he gave the ira letters have come. >> well, i'm not i'm not i'm not defending tony blair or margaret thatcher. i'm saying that they did something right. is it going to achieve anything at all? >> i think that's my that's my issue.i >> i think that's my that's my issue. i think i think it's not going to achieve anything. and

the thing is, i think like you seem to be under the impression that we don't want to enter into this conflict or any of that. i have been very critical. but also you have to be fair, if you are assuming that there are human rights violations happening, you need to actually confirm that, because we know that that the uk has been exporting arms to countries with verified human rights abuse records, and we haven't been doing that. we haven't. no. hold on. but but but that's the point. we still are. if you're going to make that case, you have to make you have to verify. that's the thing i've i've often said i've often made the case and i've been very critical, particularly of benjamin netanyahu, who i think is probably the most shameless man walking on the planet. but that is not how you conduct foreign affairs. israel and the uk will exist far longer than after we kick out keir starmer and his government out of power, and you're going to have to ask the question, what is this going to do to our long term relationship with one of our allies in the region, because we either have allies or we go into regions that are destabilised at our own difficulties. that's the reality. >> israel is now going to look at the government in the uk and all the issues that we've seen about anti—semitism in the streets, the way that we attack

business. and they're going to look at the country and saying, we're now becoming anti—israeli and anti—israel anti—semitism, and anti—israel anti—semitism, and that might push them closer to the chinese yourself to put yourself their shoes. and what are they going to be saying to their people? what will their people do? and i'm not saying that all israelis are generic, that all israelis are generic, that they're all the same. we know that there's disputes going on in the streets of israel as well. >> they literally want netanyahu out the israeli government is not the same as israel, and israel is not the same as judaism, and judaism is not the same as british. an election again, what i find so what i find so awful about this debate is how. and i thought it was completely outrageous, by the way. and i'm speaking as a british jew, by the way, the chief rabbi today and the british board of deputies of jews are coming out with statements that almost seem to be mouthpieces for the israeli government, saying it's a completely horrendous. they are there to speak on behalf of british jews. and by the way, they don't speak on behalf a lot of british jews, but that's a separate issue. they are not there to intervene in matters of foreign policy. and i think it's so dangerous to conflate israel and judaism. they are not the same thing. we would not accept an anti—israel protest outside a

synagogue that would be completely anti—semitic. it therefore follows that we need to separate this out and that jewish people, the jewish leaders, should not make statements. hang on a minute. >> we have had anti—israel protests, and that's completely outrageous to have them outside synagogues. >> you have anti—israel protests outside the embassy on british soil. >> it's not outside a cinema showing jewish films. right. >> and that's completely wrong . >> and that's completely wrong. that's completely wrong. >> i've seen a tidal wave of anti—semitism. who does this, please? this decision that david lammy, i think the anti—semites. >> no, it doesn't please the anti—semites. it will please people who don't think that britain should be supporting and facilitating war crimes and ofsted and hamas. no. well, i'm just saying that's not an allegation hamas whatsoever throw around. >> unless you verify it. i completely get you. i get your perspective. but we need you. >> can't those who are supporting this policy are going to see towards those who are supporting hamas. and i think that's the difficulty. you're not being able to understand that they will see this as a victory, even though you might

see it as a nice step forward to what you want to achieve. >> all right, guys, well, look, we've overrun there, but i think with good reason. look, coming up. i'll have all of tomorrow's newspaper front pages. and first, though, national pride in britain's history has apparently plummeted over the past decade. is it any wonder, though, when bbc proms presenter katie durham slammed the iconic british song as problematic. nana resign you made former tory party deputy chairman jonathan cate hollis. he joins me live and he's next and he's going hit back at the liberal lefties who nothing more than bashing britain.

tomorrow's front pages are coming next. but first i'm joined by the former deputy chairman of the tory party, jonathan cate hollis, now , at jonathan cate hollis, now, at least 12 migrants have died after their dinghy ripped open and sank as they tried to cross the channel. the french coast guard says more than 50 people have been rescued after a boat got into difficulties this morning. home secretary yvette cooper described the deaths as, quote, horrifying and deeply tragic . she quote, horrifying and deeply tragic. she added quote, horrifying and deeply tragic . she added the quote, horrifying and deeply tragic. she added the gangs behind this appalling and callous trade do not care about anything but the profits they make, and that is why, as well as mourning the awful loss of life, the work to dismantle these dangerous and criminal smuggler gangs and to strengthen border security is so vital it must proceed at pace. but i've got to be honest with you, okay? i am starting to. well, i'm not starting to wonder. i am wondering whether or not some of these charity groups on the

other side of the channel that appear to be certainly doing nothing to intervene, to put it mildly, as people make this dangerous journey across the channeli dangerous journey across the channel, i actually have to start shouldering some of the blame. jonathan gullace joins me now, look, jonathan, do we need to start having a serious look at who some of these quote unquote charity groups are, really, because there is a serious argument to be made that maybe they are facilitating this evil trade . evil trade. >> well, i completely agree with you, patrick. at the end of the day, that anyone who is not deterring people from making this unnecessary and dangerous journey, and sadly, as we've just heard today, people, women and children losing their lives is the most sickening thing of all. i don't want to see lives lost in the channel. i don't want people to choose to enter these unseaworthy vessels. i don't want people to feel that they need to somehow pay thousands of pounds to smugglers from france in order to come to the uk illegally, and it's not helped by the fact we've now got a government that scrapped the rwanda deterrent. that said, if you come here, you will be able

to actually apply for asylum, whereas the conservatives said it would not be applicable that you'll be able to apply if you enter this country illegally. so both deterrents are off the table. they're small boats, come on. which is to rebrand of what was already there, has still seen them left with a vacancy for the top job in terms of who's actually leading this response, we seem to have no new deal with france in the pipeline yet. we were told relentlessly in the lead up and during the general election that they had a fully costed, fully funded , fully costed, fully funded, fully costed, fully funded, fully fledged plan ready to go that would bring down the boat numbers. and sadly, they're not. and we've seen was it around 2000 in the past two weeks? it's just awful . labour needs to pull just awful. labour needs to pull its finger out and stop this tragic loss of life in the engush tragic loss of life in the english channel. >> well, i mean, you know, there appears to be absolutely zero deterrent at the moment, as is as is well documented and labour are still yet to appoint a head of this new border command. it seems. and when you look at some of the other things that they're rolling out, it does make you wonder what their priorities really are. but, you know, we're

heanng really are. but, you know, we're hearing and we've reported on numerous times on this show about various charity groups over there on that side of the get accommodation to be fed and wate there only get accommodation to be fed and wate there on.y get accommodation to be fed and channel wate there on that side of the over there on that side of the channel over there on that side of the channel, who , you know, find, over there on that side of the channel, who , you know, find, channel, who, you know, find, you know, give a bit of food and channel, who, you know, find, you know, give a bit of food and water and whatever to these water and whatever to these people, but also advise them people, but also advise them about what lawyers to contact, about what lawyers to contact, what to say when they get over what to say when they get over the channel. you know , a the channel. you know , a the channel. you know, a the channel. you know, a pregnant woman drowned today , a pregnant woman drowned today , a pregnant woman drowned today, a pregnant woman drowned today, a pregnant woman drowned today, a pregnant woman in the channel. pregnant woman drowned today, a pregnant woman drowned today, a pregnant woman drowned today, a pregnant woman in the channel. and i'm sorry, the labour talk and i'm sorry, the labour talk about smashing the gangs. and we about smashing the gangs. and we think about these, you know, think about these, you know, horrific criminals who trade in horrific criminals who trade in human life. but, you know, i'm human life. but, you know, i'm just wondering whether or not, just wondering whether or not, seriously, some of these seriously, some of these charities should be treated as charities should be treated as gangs. >> well, we should be looking at gangs. >> well, we should be looking at what these charities are doing. what these charities are doing. and as you say, when examples and as you say, when examples and evidence is being provided, and evidence is being provided, that actually advice is being that actually advice is being given on essentially how to given on essentially how to enter this country illegally, enter this country illegally, how to use the system, and that how to use the system, and that is deemed to therefore be is deemed to therefore be encouraging people to encouraging people to unnecessarily risk their lives unnecessarily risk their lives and therefore consequences and therefore consequences should be felt by even having should be felt by even having bases and camps on the coast of bases and camps on the coast of calais. for people to be able to calais. for people to be able to get accommodation to be fed and get accommodation to be

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calais. for people to be able to get accommodation on. be about what's going on. >> yeah, i think i think we do should be open and transparent about what's going on. >> yeah, i think i think we do need to put a spotlight on need to put a spotlight on because, you know, yes, there because, you know, yes, there are vile criminals and human are vile criminals and human traffickers. obviously there traffickers. obviously there are. and, you know, there's no are. and, you know, there's no getting around that . but but are getting around that . but but are getting around that. but but are getting around that. but but are they being helped along by some they being helped along by some of these charities? i don't of these charities? i don't think you'd stand for it. i think you'd stand for it. i suppose the problem that maybe suppose the problem that maybe labour has is that, you know, at labour has is that, you know, at times they've got into bed with times they've got into bed with some of these charities. but some of these charities. but anyway, moving on to something anyway, moving on to something else now, national pride has else now, national pride has declined sharply over the last declined sharply over the last decade. apparently jonathan, and researchers say that is because decade. apparently jonathan, and researchers say that is because britain is redefining itself as britain is redefining itself as it becomes more diverse. so the it becomes more diverse. so the national centre for social national centre for social research study revealed that 64% research study revealed that 64% of respondents said they were of respondents said they were proud of britain's history. so proud of britain's history. so still a decent number, but it is still a decent number, but it is down from 86% in 2013 and just down from 86% in 2013 and just over half profess pride in how over half profess pride in how britain's democracy works. down britain's democracy works. down from 69%. so it's getting worse, from 69%. so it's getting worse, isuppose. isuppose. from 69%. so it's getting worse, from 69%. so it's getting worse, i suppose . is it any wonder when i suppose . is it any wonder when i suppose. is it any wonder when people like the bbc proms host i suppose. is it any wonder when katie durham are repeatedly saying things like rule britannia are, quote, incredibly people therefore problematic? do you think that an increase of diversity is

potentially to

country, which is therefore creating division within communities when it comes to this terrible conflict that we're seeing over in the middle east. and then, of course , as east. and then, of course, as you say, you've got leftie luvvies who are so desperate to virtue signal on twitter, gary lineker's of this world and of course, others at the bbc who look for any opportunity to tell us that cheese is racist, gardening is racist, the countryside's racist that jerusalem is a song that's totally inappropriate . despite totally inappropriate. despite the fact i was very proud to have that at my wedding recently as our first hymn in the church to remind people of our patriotic duty to this great nafion patriotic duty to this great nation of ours. because ultimately, it's so important to understand that being british is not something to be embarrassed of. it's been something that's to be proud of. it's brought many great things across the globe, and of course we have a past, but so do many other nations. i think douglas murray has done fantastic work in pointing out that slave trading is not unique to britain or america, but maybe every nation has got its hands dirty in this particular, trade at different points of history. so let's not

always look to beat up and talk ourselves down. let's talk about how great great britain is and i'm bloody proud to be british. >> just very finally. and we are very precious time here jonathan. so quickly. if we can. but apparently tom tugendhat has said that voters no longer take the conservative party seriously . the conservative party seriously. he is running to be the next conservative leader, the leader of the opposition. how do you find his chances, do you think, especially if he's saying things like that? >> well, i think tom's right in saying that the british public tuned out to what the conservative party had to say before the general election was called, and certainly weren't listening to what we said during that election period with the promises that we were making in the manifesto and the warnings that we were saying about what labour would do in their first 100 days. and rishi sunak said that labour would be a disaster in 100 days. well, they managed to achieve in about 57, so it's sad to see that they want to freeze and starve pensioners by taking their winter fuel payments. they want to give climate aid £11 billion overseas. they obviously want to pursue this very green agenda without actually understanding

that importing coal is actually more is worse for the environment, not better. whilst closing down coal mines in cumbria that could be used for british steel and obviously undermining other energy, and nonh undermining other energy, and north sea oil for example, as well . so, i don't north sea oil for example, as well. so, i don't think tom is wrong to say that the british pubuc wrong to say that the british public are tuned out. that's why it's important we get the right leader in place, that the tory party unites behind them, that we come up with a sense of conservative policies that the pubuc conservative policies that the public believe we will actually deren public believe we will actually deliver, and that are deliverable, and that we hold and shine a bright light on this labour party. and i do believe in five years time we can come back.i in five years time we can come back. i think the public are very deeply worried about what they're seeing from sir keir starmer already. >> and for you that leader, i think i'm right in saying, is it is it priti patel that you've backed? >> well, i'm asking. i am working on team patrick. so yes i see i would of course say she's the right leader. but look, she's made it perfectly clear. i'll make it perfectly clear. i'll make it perfectly clear. whoever it is that the membership of the conservative party chooses, they'll have my full support because they'll be a damn sight better for this country, particularly for my

children's future , than the children's future, than the wally that we've got in number 10 already. >> all right, strong stuff, jonathan. but, you know, it's great to have you on the show as even great to have you on the show as ever. jonathan gillies, there, former deputy chairman of the tory party. right. i think at this point i will just say quickly, i don't i think labour would push back on the idea that they want to freeze and starve pensioners, but we take his point about the winter fuel allowance anyway. coming up, the irish teacher and devout christian, enoch burke, has been arrested for the third time in a row after a trans student's name and pronouns issue. >> we have a right to my job. i have a right to work here. he has a right. i have a right to be here and yeah, look, i'll go into a bit more detail on that. >> is he a hero of our times or a misplaced fanatic? my panel will debate and i will give you the very first look

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here. >> so let's do those, the here. >> so let's do those, the metro . >> so let's do those, the metro. all right. okay. very serious story on the front of the metro. >> shift in tone. suicide victim said star egged on audience to boo him. this is the jeremy kyle furore. so tv kyle threw my dad under the bus. this is the claim of the son of a chap called steve dymond, who sadly took his own life after appearing on the jeremy kyle show and the inquest into his death has begun. so that's why it's on the front page there. let's go to the i. grenfell. guilty must now be prosecuted. urge mps and survivors. criminal prosecutions for those responsible for the grenfell

for those responsible for the grenfel the for those responsible for the grenfelthe queue a pay next in the queue for a pay rise, so train guards are going to be offered a 15% pay rise. now forgive me, but don't they just look at doors and tell you when they're open? >> interesting how the public purse works. we're so skint, but somehow we find for money things that you never expect. >> well, we're not skint, isn't that the point? >> well, not skinned, but what are we doing to railcards? aren't we? like reducing how much? apparently we are discount. >> we're just going to try and take more money. >> more money from people who've saved it . that's it. saved it. that's it. >> okay. right. look. so. right, abi. so we're going to end it. despite the fact that angela rayner apparently did benefit from this scheme, she did benefit from the scheme to the tune of 48,500 pounds. hypocritical or not, of course. >> of course they're hypocritical. >> me, i agree with her. >> me, i agree with her. >> no, look, she's hypocritical because here they are. we've got a load of them who went to private and public schools, and they want to remove the vat and take the rug from under people like myself, who came out of council houses and went into a private school and succeeded on the back of it, whereas if i'd gone to the local school, i'd have ended up like liam and noeli have ended up like liam and noel, i think. >> i think the education point

is obviously indefensible. like even the most socialist countries in europe don't tax education. i get that on the on the, sort of the what is it , the, sort of the what is it, house help to buy. right, right, right to buy. that's it. i agree with her because i think the approach of actually just building more houses and making them more affordable is a more sustainable approach than having a fifth of the english population in public housing and basically tying up the system where no one else can buy can buy houses is necessary. >> i was i lived in a council house. i grew up in a council. >> the problems with. yeah, but the point isn't to stay in account. >> the point it's supposed to be a help up, not a hand out. >> the problem with right to buy was that the government never replaced the housing. exactly. they went into private hands. and then what you had with right to buy was that the people who had been council tenants became landlords themselves. and so you just had a whole new generation of people that, instead of being in the council, were just sort of renting from private landlords. >> i just want to wind up now. i'm at pains to stress this to you. all right. we are not going to talk about the, the you know, the over specifics of what's on

the over specifics of what's on the front of quite a few of these newspapers specifically now the mirror, because there have been arrests made and all of that stuff. this is the headune of that stuff. this is the headline murdered by a kid seconds from home murdered in quote marks. because obviously nothing has been proven yet true. but i would like to speak about the wider issue here, which is, i think, a propensity to violence amongst young people . to violence amongst young people. and actually, i mean, this is anecdotal, obviously, i, you know, report the news every day. i appear to be seeing a rise in violence against elderly people as well. in fact, i had to report the other day on someone who was in a someone in a wheelchair getting stabbed to death for goodness sake. what is going on? >> i mean, i know, i know, an elderly lady that, you know, comes to my hair salon who says she doesn't go out when kids are out of school. so around 4:00 pm because she'll be at a bus stop and she'll she'll have these kids saying, what are you looking at? like trying to intimidate her, feeling like they've, you know, given her she's she's given them an evil looks or something like that. and this is a frail woman with grey hair and grey hair in her 80s. i don't think it's just down to older elderly people, too. >> it's happened to myself. it's happened to people of my age.

yeah, people. and it happens to younger children and teenagers even more so because there is just a general aggressiveness now, a more violent, aggressive lawlessness and lawlessness with youngen lawlessness and lawlessness with younger, younger children and younger, younger children and younger teenagers . and whether younger teenagers. and whether that's down to what we're seeing in the levels of violence on tv, what we're seeing on levels of violence on on social media, i think that has to be something. >> well, what do you think ? do >> well, what do you think? do you? yeah. do you think that the younger people are getting more violent? >> i would have to see studies that suggest that. i mean, it's not impossible. and there would be a lot of factors behind that if it were true. but, you know, we have had cases, terrible cases of children doing absolutely monstrous things. i mean , i'm old enough. i think mean, i'm old enough. i think you're probably not old enough to rememberjames bulger in the to remember james bulger in the early 90s. and obviously that became a completely notorious case because it was two children who had done something to a much younger child. to be fair, i do accept that my very first criminal case in the in the

central court, the old bailey, was 15, 16 year olds who actually murdered two gay people in croydon. >> and they were young people. but at the time, even those in the central criminal court, the old bailey, were shocked by the number of young people involved in that particular case because it wasn't widespread. but if you look today, almost everybody, you know, if you talk about family and friends, they will talk about people they've seen attacked, abused or upset back in the day. >> communities could actually step in. they could say, who is your father? who is your mother? why are you behaving like this? people actually knew each other. now we don't even know people three doors down. and i think young people have also got the impression that we're living in a lawless society. i could park my car somewhere i'm not supposed to, and be slapped with an £85 fine before i could even blink. but somehow you can burgle someone's phone. you can burgle someone's phone. you can burgle someone's phone. you can burgle someone's house, you can do all these things, and you get away with it and you get away with it. >> it happened to me. this exact situation literally happened to me the other day. i parked my car in place there was no parking. i had to nip into

somewhere quickly and i had to walk down a high street, name it to walk down a high street, and i could physically see crimes taking place on that high street. the buzzers were going off on shops as people were nicking things. there was at least two drug dealers that i walked past. i come back my car, £65. fine. but that's exactly what message are we sending? hang on a minute. you know, maybe those traffic wardens could have been redeployed as police officers and we might have stopped the lawlessness. >> but that's the thing. there's no financial incentive. the council doesn't benefit. so they're more keen to extort money from people for parking their cars for some over ten minutes than actually solving crime. >> i think if you're complaining, if people have untrained police officers on the streets, no, i would like them to be. >> i would like them in an ideal world rather than they'd be trained. but yeah, if they just have a baton, it's fine. yeah. >> let's bring back the hue and cry. all right, all right. >> okay. right now this was the moment that an irish teacher called enoch burke was jailed for a third time after he breached a high court order banning him from the grounds of the school that sacked him for refusing to use a trans pupil's new name and pronouns.

>> shame upon you. i gather this year conor burke has broken no law. >> he has broken no law . >> he has broken no law. >> he has broken no law. >> i have a right to my job. i have a right to work here. he has a right. i have a right to be here and you're arresting to tell students they need to tell puberty. puberty blockers you're arresting him because he won't endorse transgender ideology . endorse transgender ideology. shame upon you. shame on you, shame on you . shame on you. >> okay. all right, well , there >> okay. all right, well, there you go. i mean, he's obviously he's gone back for more. he believes he's making a you know, a point, doesn't he? but i suppose if he's in a if he's contravened a court order, then it's kind of what you get. but coming up, channel four's flagship comedy show has been slammed for celebrating the erasure of women. erasure of women. >> erasure of women. >> congratulations to italy's valentina petrella, who today became the second trans athlete to complete a team to compete at the paralympics, once again just showing how inclusive the paralympic games are. >> yeah, inclusive. you know r , shunning women. yeah. okay. right. i'll have some more front

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patrick christys tonight. i've got a couple more front pages for you . so we're going to start for you. so we're going to start this round with the guardian . this round with the guardian. again, a deeply distressing story. six children amongst the 12 dead after a boat ripped open in the channel. i did make the point earlier. i do think it's time for us to have a little look at these charities that are on the other side of the channel and their role in the trade in human people. or indeed just humans. i suppose they're all humans. i suppose they're all human people, aren't we? but the daily mail. how long before the vile smuggling gangs. oh, there you go. for the vile smuggling. smuggling gangs are stopped as 12 more migrants die after a boat capsized in the channel, you know, there's also this weird story. i think we'll probably get a bit of traction on gb news tomorrow. so, lucy letby handwritten quotes and quotes. confessions, right? the ones where she said things like, i'm evil, i did this. well, it turns out that she wrote down those things on the advice of therapists. now, look, i'm not saying that i appreciate. why would you write that anyway? okay but it is remarkable that her legal team didn't appear to suggest the idea that this was

at least float. the idea that this might have been some kind of fire. >> the therapist. why would you say i'm evil? >> i did this, yeah, i know, i know, the more i live. >> is that what you learned in therapy school? a confession, right, a confession. >> well, i know i'm with you. >> well, i know i'm with you. >> the more i, the more i read and hear about this. i'm not saying she's innocent, but, you know, a lot of people who are experts think that this might have been an absolutely guilty. >> i think that case was i mean, the trial was forensic. >> no, i disagree, and i think there was concern from lawyers looking at the way that was analysed at the time . i had some analysed at the time. i had some concerns about the way evidence was being presented and adjustments being made to some of the medical decisions that were being made, and i think some part of me was saying, was there an issue with the way that there an issue with the way that the hospitals were being run and they are happy to take the blame on this? and now we see nhs nurses really deeply concerned about this . i'm happy to see about this. i'm happy to see what happens with those people who are reviewing this. yeah. >> look, i must say i found the initial pushback to the lucy

letby verdict a bit weird. yeah, because i was , you know, i because i was, you know, i suppose, like most baby murderer, i'm like. >> but >> but but >> but but then >> but but then look, >> but but then look, you >> but but then look, you know, then i looked at it, i thought actually the state of maternity care in britain is so awful. yeah. so awful that it is not beyond the realms of possibility that a lot of babies did die there as a result of something or someone substandard care. look i'm not really qualified to talk about this, i suppose, but it's interesting how this thing keeps rearing its head. and, look, we are going to actually just wrap the show up now with today's greatest britons and union jacks. let's get stuck straight into that, esther, can ihave straight into that, esther, can i have your greatest britain, please? adele >> adele. because she's taking an indefinite break from music again. what was she back this was she came back for, like, a las vegas residency. >> this is the life i need. five months of work, and then, like, six years of retirement, she can retire the rest of her life. that's a work life balance i can get behind. >> good start. >> good start. >> stephen. >> stephen. >> i'm going forjack draper, the tennis player who's got to

the tennis player who's got to the quarterfinal of the us open . the quarterfinal of the us open. just proving how public schools can once again get us into the top half. and the labour government should be looking at what happens when they remove vat. >> all right, there we go. go on. >> jonathan charli chs, who declared today, which is tweeted out by the bbc news account, which i thought was a bit strange, the brat summer is officially over and i just want to thank charli for brat summer, which brought us all a bit of joy which brought us all a bit of joy and propelled kamala harris as well, which obviously i'm very grateful for. >> good lord. yeah, well, there we go . we go. >> spiritual sanctum all right. >> spiritual sanctum all right. >> it's a bit of a different one today because today's winner of the greatest briton is actually my wonderful executive producer, liam dodson, whose last show it is today . oh, i would like to is today. oh, i would like to thank liam for everything when we started. great tash. when we started working together, the show was in much different shape than it is now. it's fair to say we've accomplished a heck of a lot together, and it is no mean feat. what we've done . and we feat. what we've done. and we owe we owe a heck of a lot to you, liam. so good luck in all your endeavours going forward. and thank you for not just being a, you know, a good colleague,

but being a good friend as well. so, who's your union jackass >> ed miliband. okay. >> ed miliband. okay. >> for adding £150 onto our energy bills to subsidise some sort of wind farm initiative that he has. no one likes the sound of higher energy bills. okay? and i just don't think this is ed miliband. >> there we go. go on. >> i'm going for lord layard, the labour peer who wants us all to work to 68, despite the fact he gets £360 a day as a membership of the house of lords and is one of the highest paid pensions that he's got himself. so maybe he should offer that classic of the genre, isn't it? >> okay. go on. who's your union jackass >> patrick. what a difference a week makes. remember last tuesday i came on here and said that oasis . and now, having that oasis. and now, having waited for seven bloody hours in that queue , i have completely that queue, i have completely changed my mind. i hate them, i never want to hear another song as long as i live. >> i was dressing up as a modern version of oasis with my jacket on for you. >> i didn't get it then . >> i didn't get it then. >> i didn't get it then. >> didn't get it. did he get tickets? no. there we go. >> there we go. i don't know

anyone who's got tickets. >> yeah, well, ticketmaster, ticketmaster want ticketmaster to be joint joint union jackass. >> because the way that they hiked series one, the way they hiked series one, the way they hiked up ticket prices was completely outrageous. >> okay. >> okay. >> well , today's winner of the >> well, today's winner of the union jackass is actually my producer, liam dodson, who is his last show today. he's a dangerous, treacherous son of a and he's leaving. okay? >> he's walking out on me. >> he's walking out on me. >> where is he going to after all we've achieved? okay he's just thrown the towel in. he's a quitter , okay? and i, for one, quitter, okay? and i, for one, am happy to see the back of him. all right? i've never thought he was a friend. he was never any good. he'll never work again. all right. okay you can come back any time you like, liam. but anyway. all right. okay. so there we go. well, look, i would just like to say thank you to everybody who's, who's been a part of this show, especially liam , but, but yes, it's been liam, but, but yes, it's been a it's been a rip roaring show. i'm off for a few days, so i

think martin daubney is on tomorrow. headliners are up next, though. they will be, steering you through the news in much more detail than we just did. just then. and what a news day for it. although, you know, warning , most of it day for it. although, you know, warning, most of it is absolutely, completely and utterly miserable. i will see you on monday. but thank you very much to everybody who's been watching and listening. i'll see you then. all right. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar, sponsors of weather on . solar, sponsors of weather on. gb news. >> hello. good evening. welcome to your latest gb news weather update brought to you from the met office. through tonight. there will be a few showers, but for many of us, clear skies and it will turn quite chilly across northern areas. but through the rest of this evening, a weather front still to push south and eastwards through parts of scotland, northern ireland into areas of northern england and wales . so cloudy skies will wales. so cloudy skies will start to develop here through this evening . a risk of some this evening. a risk of some showers across northwestern england, wales and the southwest. the showers, though moving away from the south and

east, so we'll turn drier for many of us overnight tonight, but still a few showers lingering on across parts of western scotland in particular. but clearer skies inland will allow temperatures to fall away to 2 or 3 degrees. in rural scotland, a fresher night than last night as well. across southern areas of england too. but despite the chilly start, it will be a bright start for northern and western areas of scotland , particularly across scotland, particularly across the highlands and the islands in the highlands and the islands in the west. in the east, though, the west. in the east, though, the risk of showers as well as in the southwest, some of these showers could turn quite heavy, particularly across northern ireland. throughout the middle part of wednesday there's a few risk of a few showers across central areas of england, too , central areas of england, too, but still some sunny spells around and wednesday will be a day of sunshine and showers, generally across the uk. any in any sunshine it won't feel too bad.the any sunshine it won't feel too bad. the winds are fairly light after the chillier start. temperatures aren't going to quite reach as high as they have donein quite reach as high as they have done in the past few days , but done in the past few days, but it will feel pleasant enough with those lighter winds. showers, though, could turn quite heavy with a risk of hail

and thunder across parts of northern ireland and western scotland. but it's across the south and east where we see the heaviest rain develop through wednesday evening that will likely linger into thursday morning. so is a rain

gb news. >> good evening. i'm will hollis with your top stories at 11:00. a pregnant woman is amongst 12 people to have died while attempting to cross the english channel. dozens more were on board when a boat capsized near northern france, with some 60 rescued by the coastguard. it's believed ten of the 12 are female, including six children with most of the migrants on board from eritrea. french prosecutors have opened an investigation . border and investigation. border and security minister angela eagle said the gangs facilitating the crossings must be stopped . crossings must be stopped. >> these dangerous boat crossings are being facilitated for financial reward by smuggling gangs who don't care about the safety of the people that they are cramming onto boats, often overcrowding onto boats, often overcrowding onto

boats and forcing these dangerous crossings. and it's that that we've got to stop happening in the future. >> police in leicestershire have named an 80 year old man who died after being attacked while walking his dog in the park. a post—mortem examination found bhim kohli died of a neck injury, passing in hospital on sunday. a murder investigation has since been launched and five children, a boy and a girl aged 14, plus another boy and two girls aged 12, were arrested on suspicion of murder. police say that tonight the 14 year old boy remains in custody. the other four have been released with no further action. former prime minister boris johnson has accused keir starmer of abandoning the ally, abandoning an ally as the government suspends some arms sales to israel. foreign secretary david lammy says the decision is based on a review which found there was a clear risk weapons might

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