of course, died six children of course, died yesterday. that was the deadliest crossing disaster in recent times. but it's clearly no deterrent and private school tax rate as many as 1 in 5 private schools could risk closing with sir keir starmer's vat raid on fees. >> what is this going to do to state schools? >> and is the right to buy going to be abolished? angela rayner is preparing to rip up margaret thatcher's right to buy policy , thatcher's right to buy policy, despite benefiting from the council house scheme herself. >> and finally, the grenfell inquiry report. the report into the disaster that claimed the lives of 72 people in 2017 will be published in its final form today and a campaign for change dame esther rantzen has issued a heartfelt plea to mps to allow a vote on assisted dying when, tomorrow they have the chance to introduce a private member's bill. >> we're going to be talking to esther's daughter. >> had enough? harry prince harry has reportedly sought advice on how to mastermind a

return to the uk, but says he's got no interest in returning to resume his royal duties. but would you take him back anyway ? would you take him back anyway? >> pmqs of course. today, first one back. so these pictures, which we are getting live from the channel this morning, which will continue to bring you. they're not going to land particularly well starmer. >> they're shocking because you might have thought with 12 people perishing in the sea yesterday that that would have been a deterrent. absolutely not. dozens and dozens. getting onto dinghies in full view of the french police, who frankly, i think, turn a blind eye or almost encourage it because they want them out of their hair. >> now, of course, it's the grenfell inquiry this morning that will be happening at 11. seven years. that inquiry has been going on. there could be some revelations that come out of that. who is going to get the blame? will there be criminal prosecutions possible taken against people who were involved

in that? and of course, if you are one of those affected this morning, no doubt you will be watching that keenly. gbnews.com/yoursay is the portal on which you can let us know your thoughts. get involved with the show first at the very latest news with sam francis. >> bev and andrew. thank you very much indeed. good morning to you. just after half past nine and we'll start then with that news we've been covering over the last hour or so. if you've been with us during breakfast, you will have seen footage of french police storming a beach as dozens of migrants scrambled to get their boats into the water on the french coast and set course across the english channel. dramatic footage also showing people wading out into the water, many not wearing life jackets, before pushing away from the shore. that comes just hours after 12 people died attempting to make that crossing, including, sadly, a pregnant woman and six children after the bottom of their boat pred

after the bottom of their boat ripped open, according to authorities in france. well that disaster yesterday adds to a growing death toll , with 226 growing death toll, with 226 people, including 35 children, thought to be either missing or dead after attempting the crossing this year alone . as we crossing this year alone. as we heard from andrew and bev, a long awaited report on the 2017 grenfell tower fire which killed 72 people, is set to be published today after over seven years. the final report will focus on the roles of corporate firms, the local authority and the london fire brigade amid calls for it to prompt significant change. bereaved families have described the delay in justice as unbearable, with the police inquiry not expected to conclude until 2025. four of the five children arrested over the murder of eight year old bhim koli have been released without charge. koli was attacked while walking his dog in franklin park, near leicester, on sunday and later died in hospital. a 14 year old boy, though, does remain in

police custody as investigations continue. the group, aged between 12 and 14, were initially arrested on suspicion of murder after a post—mortem revealed the victim died from a neck injury. police are now urging anyone with information about that attack to come forward . england's gp services forward. england's gp services face a critical tipping point, according to a new study . according to a new study. researchers from the university college london found that while nhs workforces have grown by 20%, the number of gps per 1000 patients has fallen by 15%. gp practices have also dropped by 20% over the last decade, despite an 11% rise in patient registrations . concerns are registrations. concerns are growing over the increasing reliance on non—medical staff, with experts warning this could impact the quality of care. but the government has promised reforms, including hiring more gps and raising pay . well, gps and raising pay. well, conservative mps will kick off

the first round of voting today to choose a successor to rishi sunak. that initial ballot, set for this afternoon will begin narrowing the field of six candidates, with further rounds throughout september whittling those contenders down. they include james cleverly, robert jenrick, dame priti patel, tom tugendhat, mel stride and kemi badenoch and an exam board is warning that gcse students are taking too many exams, spending more than 30 hours in tests, among the highest across the globe. ocr, one of the main uk exam boards, is calling for a reduction in the number of intensity of exams , proposing a intensity of exams, proposing a shift towards a more balanced and relevant curriculum. they say that report, backed by education figures, comes as the government is also launching its own review into curriculum and assessments . those are the assessments. those are the latest headlines for now. i'll be back with you for a full round up at the top of the hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning

the qr code or go to gb news. >> com forward slash alerts . >> com forward slash alerts. >> com forward slash alerts. >> good morning. 936 this is britain's newsroom live across the uk on gb news with me bev turner and andrew pierce. >> well, you would have thought, wouldn't you? after the worst fatal crossing yesterday , 12 fatal crossing yesterday, 12 people dying, six children and a pregnant woman that might have stayed the hand of the criminal gangs or even the migrants. but they are, as we speak, coming across the channel again. >> they are. we've got live pictures this morning of the coast of northern france and seeing huge numbers , dozens of seeing huge numbers, dozens of people coming across the french coastguard has confirmed the deaths of up to 65 people who were rescued off the coast of guinea on tuesday. were rescued off the coast of guinea on tuesday . also, charlie guinea on tuesday. also, charlie peters is with us now. charlie, we're looking at these live

pictures this morning. oh these aren't live. apparently this is earlier today. but just explain to us what we've been seeing this morning on on some of these images. and what does this tell us about the situation with the illegal migrants? >> sure. about two hours ago, a couple of boats had already started the journey across the channel. this morning, one boat made it into uk waters and was escorted to dover by one of the border force vehicles that our producer in kent says up to about 16 people on board that vessel , some 300, arrived vessel, some 300, arrived yesterday despite that tragedy off the coast of northern france. but in the last half hour or so we have seen a third boat depart from northern france with dozens on board, as you said, beth, many of them wearing life jackets. but i think the most stunning part of that extraordinary footage is that when the boats already in the water and making its way out towards the channel additional people come running out across the beach . not necessarily the beach. not necessarily originally associated with the plan to launch that boat and try and jump on. and that is part of and jump on. and that is part of a pattern that has been repeated

quite regularly in the last couple of years, leading to many of these fatalities. it's highly likely that that could have contributed to what happened yesterday, particularly we were told yesterday by the french authorities that those involved yesterday could have been of eritrean heritage. we're seeing more and more african gangs and migrants being involved in this attempt to sabotage and jump onto boats that have already launched many of the people smuggling operations involved people from iran and also from south asia. but it's particularly the african migrants who are involved in this strategy of jumping once already launched, not paying the thousands of dollars required to make the crossing. now the french authorities say that they stop 60 to 70% of attempted crossings, and we've seen that . crossings, and we've seen that. well, we have seen some dramatic footage of them preventing launches, police officers rushing out , slashing the rubber rushing out, slashing the rubber on these dinghies. and we should stress these are custom made boats. this is not an amateur operation. when keir starmer talks about smashing the gangs ,

talks about smashing the gangs, he's talking about $1 billion organised criminal gang industry. these are custom made boats made to order in china, smuggled through turkey into europe by organised criminal enterprises that have strategy. they've got the means, they have the money and they have a relentless supply line of people who want to make it into britain. >> these pictures we're looking at here, charlie, just explain to our viewers at home and also if you're listening on the radio. yeah. >> so those are people running towards a boat that's already been launched. that's the process i was describing just now where people who haven't necessarily paid the fee jump on to one of these small boats. this is northern france, and as you can see, there are french authorities chasing after them, chasing, i'd say jogging. jogging towards because the problem the authorities have in their defence is that once the boats already out to sea, they're quite limited in their powers to prevent them from going further. so the tactics and procedures from the french authorities has been typically to slash the boats before they're launched, when they're on the beach, where they're uncovered by these very slick, very organised criminal gangs. once they're in the water, it's

increasingly difficult for them to prevent a crossing. that's what the french authorities will say, charlie. >> those french police officers are running in slow motion. they are running in slow motion. they are not attempting to catch up. they're not making any proper effort to thwart that latest crossing , despite knowing 12 crossing, despite knowing 12 people died yesterday, 12 people died yesterday. >> and many more people are expected to make this journey. and we revealed this morning two already crossing a third as we've just seen launching definitely overladen. we saw dozens of people on the sides of that boat, but gb news sources have also told us that there are some 3000 people waiting along the coastline from calais and dunkirk, all the way down to boulogne sur mer, which is where this incident happened yesterday. the typical strategy for the people smuggling operation is to keep people further inland and then suddenly rush them forward hours before the launch to evade authorities and detection, to prevent the strategy for disruption that the french have. but potentially they're so emboldened. at the moment we have 3000, according to our sources, waiting just by the coast prepared at any moment to launch the sort of small boat

crossing attempt that we've seen already this morning. >> we give hundreds of millions to the french police every year to the french police every year to try and stop this. but from what i can see there, they weren't earning their money. >> it's we just sort of look at the numbers of this a bit. so 20, 22, there's 46,000 people came across on small town in this way, 2023 that actually fell to 29,500. so there was there was a short you know, it did it did reduce there. and then this year. so far we know that there's more than 21,000 so far. this more and more than 5000 since labour came to power. >> and also we are currently ahead of where we were this time last year. so it seems highly likely, if not almost certain, that we will exceed that 29,000 later on, especially based on the sort of presence of the strategies that we're seeing at the moment with people waiting on the coastline, 3000 waiting to go at any moment, as it currently stands. okay. >> thank you, charlie, thank you very much. now, of course, we're looking at these pictures and people at home will be feeling angry actually, because why ?

angry actually, because why? because what we see are people who are coming to here be supported by the state predominantly, or to escape into the illegal economy and to the to the black market to go and work illegally. and whilst we feel that we can't afford anything in our houses , right, anything in our houses, right, we can't afford our shopping, we can't get an appointment with a gp, it feels like this country is already very busy. our guest now, who is a migrant support coordinator, say you might feel differently when you see these pictures . how do you feel when pictures. how do you feel when you see images of what are no doubt desperate people jumping on those dinghies ? on those dinghies? >> it's tragic, isn't it? you know, i mean, what forces these people into this situation? i find it very difficult to believe that its benefits, you know , especially, you know, know, especially, you know, yesterday we saw a lot of people lose their lives. women, children, it really does question the narrative that's put out, doesn't it, about people. they're quite clearly desperate people who would put themselves and their family on

this boat unless they had no other choice . other choice. >> but a lot of people listening and watching will be thinking, yeah, okay, then maybe they're desperate. but what is why? what is the lure of britain if it's not the fact that it's our benefit system because they're in france , which is a safe in france, which is a safe country, it's a safe country. it is. >> but france do take a lot. you know, all european countries take a lot of people and a lot of people do settle. the majority of people do settle in other countries, you know, but everybody needs to sort of chip in and help, you know, when people have lost their homes. i understand that, you know, you can't get a gp appointment. it's difficult. you know, i'm struggling myself. i completely understand the cost of living crisis, you know, but these are people who are in an even worse situation. so why can't we just learn to share the resources that we have? but we are. >> but but we 675,000 people arrived in this country legally last year. >> i do understand the issue is a broken system. you know, it's not. we are sharing. yes. when people arrive, but it's the way

they're arriving. you know, people are dying in the channel because we're not our system is broken. we need to a complete overhaul of the immigration system. we need an alternative, safe and legal routes to asylum so people can be brought here safely and legally without needing to risk their lives in a small boat. >> and what are the barriers to that? and what does that look like? so what you mean is people in their country of origin applying presumably online to see whether they would qualify for asylum status here, potentially, you know, there's there are a number of different things that we could look at. >> you know, if it was actually put on the table as a serious, thing to talk about as a solution to this issue , solution to this issue, humanitarian visas were used for the ukrainian situation. people were brought here very quickly when they needed to be very safely. they didn't have to navigate small boats or the asylum system at all. we've seen that it works very successfully. if we can build a processing centre in rwanda , we can build centre in rwanda, we can build a processing centre in northern france where people can start their claim before needing to get onto a boat. and we can do

the initial assessments, work out who has a legitimate claim to asylum and bring them here safely, then anybody found not to have a legitimate claim who might try and sneak in the back doon might try and sneak in the back door, as it were, on a small boat, we would have a lot more grounds to sort of scoop them up and return them somewhere, but i don't think france wants us to have a processing centre there. >> i think they want the processing centre to be in britain. and the point, the view here is then if they come here to be processed, they'll disappear. >> if they are coming here to be processed. and, you know, due to we know that the asylum backlog is huge and the amount of people currently going through the asylum system is astronomical. so we know that people don't just disappear into the aether. you know, it's not as big an issue as some people like to make out. people come here because they want safety. they want to be safe. >> i really want your opinion on this. as somebody that supports the migrants, what do you make of keir starmer's plan to smash the gangs? is that going to work? >> it just feels like more

government rhetoric, you know, it's just something that people can say , you know, that they can say, you know, that they can't do immediately. but it's be seen to be doing something. you know what? i really want to see the biggest change i want to see the biggest change i want to see around immigration is putting the argument for safe and legal routes for asylum really seriously. on the table and go. we need to admit now these deterrents aren't working. can we just try this? we've tried literally everything else, it's tried literally everything else, wsfime tried literally everything else, it's time to try safe and legal routes to asylum. >> okay. all right. thank you. so much, kay marsh there, migrant support coordinator. interesting take on it. right up next, do schools have too many exams? well, exam boards think the volume and intensity is too much. the kids have gone back to school today. >> i'm relieved. >> i'm relieved. >> goodness, you sound very relieved. >> oh, if you're at home with a cup of coffee, i'm with because the kids have just

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andrew here with you on a wednesday morning. >> well, it's uncertainty for many because schools go back today because research has shown as many as 1 in 5 private schools could be closed because of the labour government's decision to put vat on fees. >> that's right . so supposedly >> that's right. so supposedly it will be the lesser known schools, particularly those outside of london and in the south east. but what will it do for state schools? >> well, we're joined by former head teacher and the chairman of the campaign for real education, chris mcgovern. chris morning to you. there were figures being put around before the election suggesting labour's vat raid on private schools could see perhaps 40 45,000 pupils leaving private schools having to go into the state sector. and as we know, most schools are pretty overcrowded already. if these figures are right, 1 in 5 schools, that figure is going to be a lot higher. >> it looks like it, doesn't it? i mean, from the point of view of the labour party, they're throwing red meat to their far left, and i say that is not i'm

not politically affiliated. i've taughtin not politically affiliated. i've taught in both the state sector and the private sector, and i sat on the tuc, but i think what's going on here is the politics of envy, really. it's also extremely stupid because we are going to see a movement of a considerable number of children from private schools into the state sector. that's going to put pressure onto state schools, certainly in certain areas of the country, quite a lot of pressure. and we're going to be the only country in the world, you know, that that taxes, education, our private schools are a success story. even in those superstar education systems like singapore, shanghai, south korea, japan, they send their children to some of our private schools and they know it's a great system. so why would you want to wreck a good system the way forward and the campaign for re—education has said for many years, is to raise the standards of teaching and attainment in in state schools, so there won't be so much need for private schools. you know, you go back several decades now when we got rid of grammar

schools, suddenly private schools, suddenly private schools blossomed . if we'd kept schools blossomed. if we'd kept the grammar schools, we wouldn't need so many private schools. they might wither on the vine. but if i had my way , i think but if i had my way, i think probably i would move to a bilateral system so that we have comprehensive schools which have a grammar school stream and a vocational stream. but look, the politics of envy, i think here disastrous move and an incredibly stupid move, but done for political reasons . for political reasons. >> it's a vindictive policy in my opinion, chris, and it won't affect the super rich we saw over the weekend . i think there over the weekend. i think there was figures that eton now to border eton will cost about £65,000 a year. if you're one of those people who send your child to eton, you possibly, you're possibly not british as well. this is the other thing that people don't realise. how many people don't realise. how many people in private schools now, particularly boarding schools, are foreign, are either live overseas or are originally from a different country. they work in the oil and gas industry, for instance, and they send their children here. this isn't going to affect them. who in your

opinion, understanding parents at schools who who will be most hit by this? chris i think you're right. >> i mean, these famous schools have plenty of applicants. they're not going to be affected . they're not going to be affected. it's the middle of the road. the average private school, which caters for parents who can often from from fairly modest backgrounds, who save , don't go backgrounds, who save, don't go on holiday. and they can just about afford the fees. many of them will be on bursaries. those bursaries will disappear, of course. what's going to happen now is the gulf between, if you like, the children in private schools and those in state schools and those in state schools is going to widen and you know what else is going to happen? it doesn't get reported. you know, we've got the paralympics taking place now. we've just had the olympics in paris. half of those half of those medal winners in paris are from private schools. and we're going to damage our one part of our, you know, great national achievement is sport. that's lots of things that private schools do very well. we come back to this question. leave the private schools to do a good job. you've got to make sure that the state schools do a good job rather than dragging people down. we've got to raise people

up. >> i couldn't agree more. right. thank you so much, chris. chris mcgovern there. and he's right because the state also the private schools with those amazing sports facilities often loan them out to the local schools as well. >> 14 years of tory government, no extra grammar schools don't go anywhere. >> here's the weather. >> here's the weather. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on gb news >> morning. time for your latest weather update from the met office here on gb news. another day you'll need the umbrella handy. it is a day of dodging the downpours. there will be some sunshine around, but most areas will see a few showers as well . some heavy ones already well. some heavy ones already across parts of northern england and southern scotland and we'll see more developing through the day. but it's not raining everywhere. northwest scotland, for example . largely fine here. for example. largely fine here. much brighter day compared to yesterday, but we'll see the showers just brewing up more widely, certainly by this afternoon. some heavy ones, likely over eastern england,

more scattered over wales and southwest england, where again there'll be a bit of sunshine lifting the temperatures only into the mid teens across the north, maybe 20 or 21 further south. still a few of those heavy downpours around as we go into the evening rush hour. so again, a lot of spray and surface water on the roads. as i mentioned though, northwest scotland largely staying dry and fine. it's going to get warmer here over the next few days. a bit late, but finally some signs of summer in the far northwest. elsewhere well, you will have to watch out for the heavy showers developing. they're going to be hit and miss, but parts of the m1, the m25 in particular, seeing a lot of spray and surface water for this evening as we go through the night. if anything, the rain is going to p0p up anything, the rain is going to pop up across the south. we do have a met office yellow warning in place that rain could cause some problems as it continues through the night and into the early parts of tomorrow. further north, the showers should tend to fade and most places will become dry again . temperatures become dry again. temperatures well down into single figures on the west coast of scotland, but further south actually still quite warm. double digits

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gb news. >> morning. it's 10:00 gb news. >> morning. it's10:00 on wednesday, the 4th of september. live across the uk. this is britain's newsroom with andrew pierce and bev turner. >> the grenfell inquiry report finally into the disaster, which claimed the lives of 72 people in 2017. it will be published in its final form today, so stay

tuned for that . tuned for that. >> and how would you feel about right to buy being abolished? angela rayner is preparing to rip up margaret thatcher's right to buy policy , despite to buy policy, despite previously benefiting from the council house scheme herself and a campaign for change. >> dame esther rantzen has issued a heartfelt plea to mps to allow a vote on assisted dying when, tomorrow they have a chance to introduce a private member's bill. >> and have you had enough of harry? yes. prince harry has reportedly sought advice on how to mastermind a return to the uk, but he says that he has no interest in resuming his royal duties. do you think the country would like to see him come back ? would like to see him come back? >> i think the country wouldn't mind him coming back as long as he left his wife in california with the children. drew pierce sorry, that isn't a very kind thing to say, is that's what

people think. >> no, i don't want to see any marriage with children break up. >> no, i would hate to see that. >> no, i would hate to see that. >> i would hate to see that. so you can't have him coming back without his wife, can you? >> well, people don't like her, and they blame her for the fact he's estranged now from his own family. she's estranged from her family. she's estranged from her family. he's estranged from his. there's a pattern of behaviour here. >> yeah, but he's not got a gun to his head. no, he's an adult man. he is. he is the architect of his own destiny. i'm not going to blame meghan for the fact that he has made some silly mistakes. i think they're both to blame. yeah, but would you want to see them come back gbnews.com/yoursay first, though, the very latest news. i can feel your head shaking with san francis . san francis. >> bev and andrew. thank you very much and good morning to you. just gone 10:02 and we'll start with news from france , start with news from france, where police have stormed a beach this morning as dozens of migrants scrambled to get their boats into the water and make that journey across the english

channel. dramatic footage here shows people wading out into the water, many not wearing lifejackets, before pushing away from the shore. and it comes just hours after 12 people died attempting to make that crossing , attempting to make that crossing, including a pregnant woman and sadly, six children. after the bottom of their boat ripped open . bottom of their boat ripped open. that disaster adds to a growing death toll, with now 226 people, including 35 children, thought to be missing or dead after attempting the crossing this year alone . well, a long awaited year alone. well, a long awaited report on the 2017 grenfell tower fire, which killed 72 people, is set to be published after over seven years. the final inquiry report will focus on the roles of corporate firms, the local authority and london fire brigade amid calls for it to prompt significant change. bereaved families have described the delay in justice as unbearable , with the police unbearable, with the police inquiry not expected to conclude until 2025. the fire brigades union has labelled the fire as a

crime because of deregulation and institutional failings . four and institutional failings. four of the five children arrested over the murder of eight year old bhim koli have been released without charge. koli was attacked while walking his dog in franklin park, near leicester, on sunday and later died in hospital. a 14 year old boy remains in police custody as investigations continue. that group, aged between 12 and 14, were initially arrested on suspicion of murder after a post—mortem revealed koli died from a neck injury. police are now urging anyone with information about that attack to come forward . england's gp come forward. england's gp researchers from london university college found that while the nhs workforce grew by 20% from 2015 to 2022, the number of gps per 1000 patients fell by 15%. gp practices also dropped by 20% over the last decade, despite an 11% rise in

patient regulations . concerns patient regulations. concerns are growing over the increasing reliance on non—medical staff, with experts warning it could impact the quality of care. though the government has promised reforms, including hiring more gps and raising their pay, millions of pensioners are set to lose their winter fuel payments under new government plans, which is sparking concerns among campaigners and some mps that move to address a £22 billion budget shortfall will restrict payments to those on pension credit, leaving around 1.6 million low income pensioners without support. former pensions minister steve webb is warning it will hit the poorest the hardest , while others suggest hardest, while others suggest targeting payments by council tax bands could be a fairer option. critics, though , option. critics, though, including liberal democrat leader sir ed davey, are calling for an urgent rethink as energy bills rise . conservative mps bills rise. conservative mps will kick off the first round of voting today to choose a successor to rishi sunak. the

initial ballot, set for this afternoon will begin narrowing the field of six candidates down, with further rounds throughout september whittling it down even further. the contenders include james cleverly, robert jenrick, dame priti patel, tom tugendhat, mel stride and kemi badenoch . an stride and kemi badenoch. an exam board is warning today that gcse students are taking too many exams and spending more than 30 hours in tests. that's among the highest globally. ocr, one of the main exam boards, is calling for a reduction in the number and intensity of exams, proposing a shift towards a more balanced and relevant curriculum that report , backed by various that report, backed by various education figures, comes as the government has launched its own review into curriculum and assessment . anti—fraud assessment. anti—fraud campaigners are warning people to be cautious as they return to their busy schedules after the summer break. that take five to stop fraud campaign suggests that the back to the grind feeling in september can make people more vulnerable to scams, a survey found . nearly half of

a survey found. nearly half of people are more likely to lose focus or take risks with financial offers when they're busy . pop up events financial offers when they're busy. pop up events in london, in manchester and in glasgow are being held this week to remind the to public stop and think before sharing money or personal information. sir brian may has revealed he suffered a minor stroke last week which briefly impaired his arm in an instagram video. the 77 year old said he's now doing okay, but that he won't be driving, flying or doing any strenuous activity. the queen guitarist described the incident as well a little scary, but praised the care of the team that he received at hospital. he's also reassured fans that he can still play guhan fans that he can still play guitar. and finally, in the sports news, dame sarah storey has added another medal to her career. she clinched her 18th paralympic gold in the women's c5 time trial, completing the 14.1km course in just 20 minutes and 22 seconds. the 46 year old

british cyclist, who started her sporting journey in swimming, now boasts an incredible 29 paralympic medals, solidifying her status as gb's most decorated paralympian. congratulations to her. well, those are the latest gb news headunes those are the latest gb news headlines for now. your next update in half an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone , sign up to news your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . slash alerts. >> hello and welcome. this is britain's newsroom live across the uk on gb news with me andrew pierce and bev turner. >> so migrants are continuing to cross the channel this morning, despite the news yesterday that a pregnant woman and six children were amongst 12 people who died after their boat sank. >> campaigners and some mps are calling for the people responsible. oh, actually, we can look at. yeah, sorry about that.

>> i'm going to go on to that. >> i'm going to go on to that. >> we are the images that we've seen this morning of the french police. don't shock me, but they just make me angry. >> well, they make our inbox angry as well. >> they're making no attempt to stop those young men that all young men running into the sea to jump into the dinghies. young men running into the sea to jump into the dinghies . and to jump into the dinghies. and from what we were hearing from charlie peters, they haven't even paid for their their their fare across the channel. the thing is, i don't care if you were a police officer on that beach and you know how desperate those people are to get on those boats, because, as you say, they've paid a huge amount of money. >> some of them will just want to economically better themselves. some of them will be genuinely escaping war zones. those people are going to do everything possible to get on that boat. if you're a police officer and you try to stop them, you are highly likely to be injured in the process of trying to do that. >> because french police are armed, unlike our police. >> but are they going to? they're not going to use it under those circumstances. imagine imagine the outcry to shoot her, to shoot a migrant, a migrant or asylum? >> an asylum seeker, a refugee.

>> an asylum seeker, a refugee. >> so it's just a it's just a mess. it's a complete mess and it's getting worse. >> and of course, labour. they look, we don't know whether the rwanda plan would ever have worked, but on day one, they cancelled that rwanda plan where by now, presumably a plane would have been up in the air. yeah. even if it was, would that be a deterrent? well, there was evidence that people were moving from northern ireland into southern ireland because they feared that they could be because northern ireland, being part of britain, they'd be part they could end up in rwanda. that that that was reported. so there was evidence it could have been a deterrent and labour scrapped it. and we spent all that money with the rwandan authorities. >> you just can't help but think that maybe this new labour government might have said , government might have said, we're just going to okay, we'll try. we'll try the rwanda we've we think it's a stupid gimmick. but yeah, this country has invested £400 million of taxpayers money into this so far. and we've not had one person on that plane. so what we're going to do is we're going to give it a go, and we're going to give it a go, and we're going to be honest with the public about the fact that this would

not be plan a if we had been at the start of this process. >> but as we don't have a plan at all, we don't have. >> well, they may not have said that, but they might have said but as we agree with the british public, that there needs to be a deterrent to stop people dying in the channel, we will give it a go. let's just try. but they didn't. they played politics with it and they said, oh, we would never do anything as awful as that. and so consequently, they are still coming over in their thousands and they are still dying in the channel. >> so more, more than five, it'll be soon. it'll be 6000 since labour came to power. >> well, like we said, we were saying earlier, more than 21,000 so far this year and we're in september. so the chances are thatis september. so the chances are that is going to exceed the 29,000 from last year. it's a small town, isn't it? it is a small town, isn't it? it is a small town. >> every year a small town is coming into this country. we're full up already. in my view, there's no room at the inn, no room in our schools. we've got. we've already got this story we've been talking about earlier about how 1 in 5 private schools could close, which will be a whole exodus of kids from those private schools into our state schools. and where do they think these migrants are going to go? >> my, i still genuinely have

more of an issue with the enormous numbers of legal migration than we have in this country than as we now call this, irregular migration. >> yeah, that's what labour called it. we're not falling for it. >> this is irregular. >> this is irregular. >> and if you're listening on the radio, we can just see these french officers ambling across the beach while the migrants are running. hell for leather to get in the dinghy. and once they're in the dinghy. and once they're in the dinghy. and once they're in the dinghy, they don't touch them. >> just incredible pictures, really absolutely overloaded. these these these ribs completely, people is what happened yesterday. people are jumping in at the very last minute, clambering on the sides in their clothes with some of them with life jackets, some of them with life jackets, some of them without. and i suppose on a nice sunny day you can possibly see the coast in the distance. it probably doesn't feel that perilous. well, that wasn't the case yesterday . yeah. andy's got case yesterday. yeah. andy's got in touch on gbnews.com/yoursay and says if you were a migrant and says if you were a migrant and heard the uk gives migrants full board and lodging medical help or for free at the same time, we're starving and freezing our own pensioners to

death to make room for them. >> well, said andy, because that's what that's what people think now. moving on. campaigners and some mps are calling for the people responsible for the grenfell fire to be criminally prosecuted, and they were quite work out who is responsible. well, we should find out today because the final report from the inquiry is to be published in less than an hour's time. >> this is, of course, seven years after the disaster. >> the report is examining not what happened on the night, but how the block came to be in that condition . who put the cladding condition. who put the cladding on it? who knew? looking at the way the government regulated it and the local authority regulated it, and that fire was just allowed to spread so quickly. >> so we're joined now by an expert on institutional failures, professor margaret heffernan. good morning, margaret . you've written, you've margaret. you've written, you've written at least one book on institutional failures , part of institutional failures, part of which focused on grenfell. so in your experience, who is to blame here? >> i think the sad fact here is

that just about everybody is to blame. you saw in the first inquiry that very, very junior employees were making very dangerous decisions. they were afraid of arguing with their bosses. they were not well enough trained. they weren't enough, there weren't enough, they didn't have enough information. they didn't have enough oversight . so i would say enough oversight. so i would say everybody actually, from some very junior people in precarious jobs right up to the owners of the companies and the members of kensington and chelsea council, many , many, many of these people many, many, many of these people are to blame. the truth is that as grenfell tower was being built, everybody along the way knew that corners were being cut. that compromises were being made, and that these endangered lives, but they made them anyway. in pursuit of their own careers or their own profit . careers or their own profit. >> in your view , professor? >> in your view, professor? i mean, the loss of life

staggering more than 70 people dying, does that require what, after this inquiry is completed, does there have to be criminal prosecutions in your view ? prosecutions in your view? >> i think it does, because i think it's well past time that people in these businesses, in any kind of business, remember that when you make decisions, you know, in an office where you don't see the people that are going to be impacted by your decision, when you make these decisions, they have consequences and that the decisions have a human impact. i think the building industry is in some level, you know, no different from the pharmaceutical industry. the pharmaceutical industry. the pharmaceutical industry. the pharmaceutical industry has to test rigorously all the drugs it puts on the markets because it recognises it can. these drugs can kill people. the same is true of buildings where we work, where we live, where we go for entertainment. and they should be held to no less a standard.

it's high time we realise that business is not just about profits and margins and shareholders, it's also about the impact that all of the work people do has on the people who are living in these sorts of buildings, buying these kinds of products, putting these kinds of very dangerous products. quite frankly , on the market for frankly, on the market for developers to use. >> margaret, the tower was originally built in 1974, so the chances of anybody being in positions who were making those decisions now is pretty slim, but was it , therefore the but was it, therefore the refurbishment that happened more recently? that was the time at which you think there could be culpability in terms of decisions made about the materials used ? materials used? >> there absolutely could have been, because, you know , the been, because, you know, the booki been, because, you know, the book i wrote about these kinds of failures is called wilful blindness, because one of the things i've come to understand , things i've come to understand, studying these kinds of tragedies is that it's never the

case that nobody knew or that, wow, there was just some abstruse piece of information somewhere people didn't have. everybody knew . everybody knew everybody knew. everybody knew that corners were being cut. everybody knew that costs were being cut. lots of people , very being cut. lots of people, very junior people, felt under incredible pressure to make bad choices simply in order to keep their jobs. choices simply in order to keep theirjobs. so choices simply in order to keep their jobs. so this choices simply in order to keep theirjobs. so this is a crime committed by thousands of people. i think what we have to do , and we almost never do this, do, and we almost never do this, is make sure that the people in charge of these decisions and in charge of these decisions and in charge of these companies are held responsible for the culture that they set , for the standards that they set, for the standards that they set, for the standards that they set, for the training that they set, for the training that they set, for the training that they do or indeed don't provide . provide. >> and what are the barriers to that sort of accountability? margaret, there's a very good book that i've read recently called the accountability deficit , and it's defining the

deficit, and it's defining the age that that defines this age that we're living in, that nobody is held responsible. why? what's changed? >> well, a lot of things have changed, partly in order to be super efficient . we've moved to super efficient. we've moved to a lot of business models where lots and lots and lots of pieces of any project are outsourced to lots and lots of different companies . and the belief is companies. and the belief is that if all these companies have to compete with each other, then somehow they'll do a betterjob somehow they'll do a better job in order to get the job. so this massive amount of outsourcing to cut costs has also meant that there's been a massive amount of outsourcing of responsibility. and i think increasingly, and we hope this will be true with the new building standards. it needs to be very clear where the lines of responsibility are, because actually , if everybody's actually, if everybody's responsible, nobody is responsible, nobody is responsible, which is exactly what alexis jay said about the rotherham horror in terms of child sexual abuse. yeah, that actually this idea of atomising

every stage of a business process and outsourcing it to somebody else is it may save a ton of money, but every time you outsource something, you lose skill and you lose oversight, which is which means you lose control . that if that is the in control. that if that is the in order to pursue profits, then we have got our values badly upside down. >> okay. thank you so much, professor margaret heffernan there. margaret, remind me the title of your book. i was looking for it here, but i can't see it. >> it's called wilful blindness. >> it's called wilful blindness. >> wilful blindness. okay. thank you so much . interesting, isn't you so much. interesting, isn't it? yeah. thematically the same. of course. >> the irony is that cladding on the grenfell tower is still in place on many, many more tower blocks and office blocks around the country seven years later. >> isn't it funny? because i am interested in this idea that nothing is ever anybody's fault? >> i think the wily old foxes chaired this inquiry, i think. i don't think he'll pull his punches. do you not? no, i'd be

surprised. i'd be surprised. >> that is going to be dropping live about 11:00 this morning. we're going to be taking you bringing you some of that official conclusion. >> he was pretty tough on his witnesses. >> yeah. good. right. in just a minute we're going to be joined by stephen pound and mike perry. we're going to look at all sorts of stories. which of course are this morning. and we're going to be bringing you the latest on channel. migrant crossings go go anywhere. this is britain's newsroom on

gb news. good morning. it's 1022. gb news. good morning. it's1022. this is britain's newsroom. and that person nattering to my left is former labour mp stephen pound and broadcaster mike parry. being better behaved in the studio. morning, both. thank you. right, where do we want to start? do you want to talk about this awful story? i think it's terrible . terrible. >> it's on all the papers. yeah. i mean , take us through it. i mean, take us through it. well, it's legal constraints, obviously. what we can say. >> it's so horrendous. but i've seen situations like this before. i've moved around loads

of places where i've lived, you know, because i've moved around my job all my life. and you always come across a situation where an old person is frightened to leave their house because feral children can allegedly get fun out of taunting old people , taunting old people, particularly if they think you weren't born in this country. the gentleman we're talking about here came here 40 years ago. he's 80 years of india, came from india. absolutely right. but we've all seen it. and once again , i have to say, and once again, i have to say, i blame the parents for allowing their children to take on those sorts of attitudes and to go out and find fun in taunting , and find fun in taunting, allegedly bullying old people. >> i was taught by my parents to respect old people. absolutely. older people, you you get up on the bus and give them a space. on the bus. you would hold a door open for them. you'd help them in a shop. you would just. and it's gone. yes. respect. >> what's terrifying is that in bhim kohli's community, he comes from punjab . there is respect from punjab. there is respect for the older people. but of course, i think obviously the first thing we say is huge

commiserations to the family and his daughter. but bhim kohli was a man who actually built up a business in leicester, built up a business in hosiery and then he retired and he runs three allotments. he was a man. he was allotments. he was a man. he was a very, very decent, hard working man. and what worries me about this is not just the substantive point that you've quite rightly raised, but the fact that he reported this to the police on three occasions. absolutely. the last time they were jumping up and down on the roof of the bungalow opposite his. now that is a red flag. surely surely. and this particular part of leicester braunstone is a very quiet, very nice place, but it's one of the sort of the new build areas he lived in a nice little neat where he was in franklin park. it's actually a model park. it's a beautiful park and surely the police could have responded to that if you've got this. as mike says, a feral group of very, very young people reported themselves to the independent complaints. >> they did it. they did it clearly. no, they didn't take it seriously enough. >> absolutely. are we the only country in the world that doesn't have this respect for older people? you go to italy, the families, all live together. they do. people who've come to

this country from other countries, they all tend to live in the same house. >> i think he lived with his daughter because his daughter heard the commotion, went outside and found her old dad. >> they shared the injured under a tree. they had three allotments and the fact that was the fact it wasn't just him, it was the whole family were working there and sharing the produce with the local people. that's right. what a sweet man. god rest his soul. >> a very sweet man. another thing that brought a bit of a tear to my eye was at the time he was walking his 15 year old dog.so he was walking his 15 year old dog. so his old dog was almost as old in doggy terms as the old man. and they must have a, you know, it must have had a terrific bond, of course, between themselves. and to think one of his pleasures in life was to walk down that little, you know, pathway into the field and see the green field and all that and all that was disturbed. and his life in his dotage, in his later years was being ruined by fear of being bullied and attacked. it's terrible thing. >> children don't have any fear of adults anymore. like bring back shame. i've said it before,

but parents will defend their children to other parents. like if your child misbehaved. and when we were all grown up, i put myself in the same category when we were growing. if we misbehaved, our parents would have been embarrassed by our behaviour. they would, and they wouldn't have automatically assumed, well, i was scared of my parents to behave badly. >> exactly as was i and my teachers as well. >> now what happens now if a child misbehaves and a teacher says to the parents, you know, little oliver has misbehaved. they say, no, he hasn't. my child's perfect. that's right. and so there's this really strange inversion of adults. not in authority. >> i think one of the problems is that all the years i was a school governor, one of the problems i had was when you had to exclude people. one particular case, there was a girl gang had ripped another girl's hair out from her skull. and when i said , look, we're and when i said, look, we're going to exclude, i told the headteacher, you're going to have to exclude them straight away. they sued the school. we've now got a litigious society now where people can sue at the drop of a hat. and i won't even go into the details

of what the case was. but believe you me, i was the villain for actually, as the chair of governors saying exclude these kids because they pred exclude these kids because they ripped this girl's hair. >> it'sjust ripped this girl's hair. >> it's just it's really problematic. >> oh, and the other issue here, andifs >> oh, and the other issue here, and it's twofold. it's about the police, right? the police don't patrol the streets anymore. no right now they've surrendered the streets. you said you were frightened of your parents. i was frightened of a policeman. if i saw a policeman coming down the street, i would think. have idone the street, i would think. have i done anything wrong or anything like that? but. so there's two issues here. one, there's two issues here. one, the police don't patrol the streets, so there's nothing to be frightened of. but even if the police had gone, these feral children would not have been frightened of the presence of a policeman because their code of behaviour in modern society does not go to respecting law and order. >> terrible . there's just no >> terrible. there's just no boundaries. and also, what can teachers do to punish kids anymore? you can't use the word punish. that's deeply unpopular in schools. you can't say punish. so they might give them a detention and the kid won't show up for the detention. they won't confiscate the phone because the parents will say, i'm paying for that phone. you

can't confiscate that phone. there's so you get kids who can just run wild and run riot around the streets , around the around the streets, around the schools, around the estates and poor guys like this end up losing their lives because nobody has the backbone to step in and pull these kids. >> is there also a community issue here? should more neighbours have been, you know, trying to address the situation as well? >> they were probably they were probably scared of the neighbours that called the police. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> but they were probably scared of the people. but it was too late then, stephen. >> it was too late then. what i'm saying is one of the neighbours should have taken the initiative a lot sooner. and because they were worried about the old man being frightened and therefore i certainly would have stepped out into the street if i saw the kid and say, hey, go and pick on somebody. your own size. >> don't forget, last time that happened, this chap got beaten to the man who did the complaint. you're right. and his wife is now in the house of lords. you're right. because she's a great campaigner. indeed. yeah, yeah. is there nothing you don't know? no. >> that was in manchester, wasn't it? >> where they were smashing up a car and he went out and he went

out and remonstrated with them, and they kept outside the house. >> and actually it didn't just destroy his family. it destroyed their family because these, these children, they've not just killed a person, they've killed themselves. they've killed their future. they've killed their hopes. they're going to be in prison until they're their 30s or 40s. yes and it's going to be like the bulger case all over. i hope to god it isn't. >> and then in the meantime, you've got campaign groups saying you're not allowed to smack your own child. yes they are. yes, exactly. well, then what? yeah. yeah, right. maybe a subject for another day? >> possibly. >> possibly. >> absolutely. can we talk about miliband's wind farms? yes. every time. ed miliband, ed miliband opens his mouth, i feel terrified about what he's going to tell us we're going to do in terms of trying to get green fuel. >> stephen and anne how much he's going to cost us? yeah, absolutely. >> hang on a second. if there's one, can we just agree on one thing? we should not be in thrall to the sheikhs of abu dhabi for our energy, for the future. we have to have some sort of renewable energy for the future. >> why don't we do fracking? then we'd have loads of energy. loads. >> this is. this is. >> why don't we carry on using our naughty oil when they have

cancelled all the licences they've not cancelled any licences. new licences? >> yeah, yeah. none of the existing licences have been cancelled. >> but there'll be no more exploration. >> andrew, can i just just say one thing? there was. i'm answering your question. yeah. >> we don't have to rely on people like putin. >> no. if we if we had fracking and i personally think it's a good and sensible idea, and if we had north sea oil extraction by all means. but they are finite. they're not infinite. wind and wave power is infinite. it never, ever ends. we've got to stop thinking about today, and we've got to start thinking about tomorrow and the day after. >> so suddenly. stephen, you can't do so suddenly. you can't say, right, stop. and by the way, andrew's right. because you might say they're not cancelling the licences, but if you look at the licences, but if you look at the financial reports, companies are now pulling out of the north sea because there's already a rumour that a 78% windfall tax is going to be increased even higher. so, of course, don't forget that. >> that's when you had the energy companies saying, we've got more money than we know what to do with. i mean, they've been swimming in cash. look, the problem is at the moment we're looking at this as a cliff edge. we're saying we're going to stop working on fossil fuels, but we're not planning for new jobs for the future. we're not

planning on replacement. we've got to actually transition from fossil fuels to renewables and keep people in. why aren't we building wind farms in this country instead of importing them? we're not importing them from south korea and sweden. yeah but but the wind farms are going to cost every household. >> according to this report, £150 a year. on top of all the other stuff. >> andrew, we're not built. we're paying south korea for those turbines. well, why don't we? >> well, that's up to your lot. you're in power now. >> we've only been in power for three weeks. >> yeah, but hang on. a couple of months before the election, ed miliband, you know, talks like this. i'm sorry. i'm not mocking him. but you are. he put that bacon sandwich out of your mouth. he was. he was telling us that , you mouth. he was. he was telling us that, you would mouth. he was. he was telling us that , you would save £300 a mouth. he was. he was telling us that, you would save £300 a year by the end of the first labour government in heating costs. we're now being told, quite apart from saving 300, you're going to pay an extra 150. and if you're a pensioner, put another 300 on top of that. exactly. and you're £180, £900 a year price cap. >> i know. so you're talking about 7 or £800 would be a lot more expensive under your lock, mate. >> well, no. hang on, hang on a

second. the energy price cap will actually give a benefit already to people and gb energy raised. >> it's an extra 100. >> and andrew look at the moment. why on earth are we paying moment. why on earth are we paying france and germany? electricite de france are our biggest electrical suppliers as far as i'm concerned. it should be british power for the british people. and that is what gb news not gb news. sorry gb energy is going to which is going to cost 8 billion to set up. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> well, okay. let's think about tomorrow and the future. but gb energy is one of the reasons for the black hole. >> the alleged black hole 8 billion. >> the future right now is you two have got to shush sam francis . we've got to go to the francis. we've got to go to the news. we're going to be talking in just a moment about angela rayner preparing to rip up margaret thatcher's right to buy policy. we might discuss that with these two as well. in the next half. but first of all, here's sam with your news. >> very good morning to you from the newsroom. 1033 exactly. and we'll start with news from france this morning that french police have stormed a beach as around 200 migrants were seen scrambling to get their boats into the water and cross the

engush into the water and cross the english channel. dramatic footage also showed people wading out into the water, many of whom weren't wearing life jackets, before pushing away from the shore. it comes just hours after 12 people died attempting to make that crossing, including a pregnant woman and six children, after the bottom of their boat ripped open yesterday. that disaster adds to a growing death toll, with 226 people, including 35 children, thought to be missing or dead after attempting the journey across the channel. this year alone . a long awaited year alone. a long awaited report on the 2017 grenfell tower fire, which killed 72 people, is set to be published today after seven years. the final report will focus on the roles of corporate firms, the local authority and the london fire brigade amid calls for it to prompt significant change. bereaved families have described the delay in justice as unbearable, with the police inquiry not expected to finish until 2025. four of the five

children arrested over the murder of eight year old bhim koli have been released without charge. koli was attacked while walking his dog in franklin park, near leicester, on sunday and sadly later died in hospital. a 14 year old boy remains in police custody as their investigations continue. the group, aged between 12 and 14, were initially arrested on suspicion of murder after a post—mortem revealed the victim died from a neck injury. conservative mps will kick off the first round of voting later today to choose a successor to rishi sunak. the initial ballot, set for this afternoon will begin narrowing the field of six candidates, with further rounds throughout september. the contenders include james cleverly , robert jenrick, priti cleverly, robert jenrick, priti patel, tom tugendhat , mel stride patel, tom tugendhat, mel stride and kemi badenoch and an exam board is warning that gcse students are taking too many exams , spending more than 30 exams, spending more than 30 hours in tests. that's among the highest globally. ocr, one of

the main exam boards, is calling for a reduction in the number and intensity of exams. they're proposing a shift towards a more balanced and relevant curriculum . balanced and relevant curriculum. while that report is backed by education figures and comes as the government is launching its own review into curriculum and assessment . those are the latest assessment. those are the latest gb news headlines for now. do stay with us for that grenfell tower report at 11:00. we'll bnng tower report at 11:00. we'll bring that to you live. i'll be back shortly for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone , sign up to news smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . slash alerts. >> cheers! britannia wine club proudly sponsors the gb news financial report , and let's take financial report, and let's take a look at the markets for you this morning. >> the pound will buy you $1.3123 and ,1.1872. the price of gold this hour, £1,886.28 per

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gb news. this is britain's newsroom on gb news. you're on the telly. he's doing his supermarket. no i was googung doing his supermarket. no i was googling angela rayner .

doing his supermarket. no i was googling angela rayner. oh. doing his supermarket. no i was googling angela rayner . oh. oh, googling angela rayner. oh. oh, yeah. googling angela rayner. oh. oh, yeah . now angela rayner is yeah. now angela rayner is considering abolishing the right to buy scheme that was brought in by margaret thatcher. >> she of course, the deputy prime minister benefited from the scheme some years ago, making around £50,000 when she sold her council house under the right to buy. >> so research shows that more than 4 in 10 council homes sold under the right to buy scheme are now owned by private landlords. we'll be joined in the studio by political commentator matthew stadlen. matt i have no problem with angela rayner having profited from this system . she did from this system. she did nothing illegal. she did what was offered to her at the time, but obviously it looks a little like pulling the drawbridge up behind you. if you've benefited in terms of social mobility. how can she justify changing this policy? >> because there is a chronic and serious shortage in social housing and do we really want to live in a country where government policy and what is right for the country for and

the citizens of this country is determined by what a government minister did or didn't benefit from ten years ago. >> but it was one of the great parts of social mobility, wasn't it? in the 80s and 90s the thatcher right to buy. and so my parents had the opportunity. they chose not to take it much to my much to my disapproval. it has to be said. >> was that out of principle? >> was that out of principle? >> because they couldn't afford it at the time? >> well, they wouldn't want to afford it initially, but later on they could. they could have, but mum just took the old fashioned view. it's a council house and the council will fix the roof if it needs fixing . but the roof if it needs fixing. but it did enable people then to move on, buy their own home and i my criticism always of the right to buy was that the receipts from the sale should have been ploughed back into more council housing. instead it disappeared into a black hole called the treasury. >> so i absolutely understand why people who benefited from right to buy wanted to buy their

own homes, because who wouldn't? i mean, i understand that your your parents decided not to do, but you're totally entitled to want to do. that is a very natural human instinct to own the roof over your own head. so i don't begrudge anyone who has taken that choice. i mean, there has been, i think, some abuse of the system. you know, you get council houses that end up being put, put up for rent on the private sector and so forth . but private sector and so forth. but in essence, the principle of it. of course, i can understand the persuasiveness of it. the problem is the consequences and no doubt unintended consequences. i don't think thatcher wanted to create an underclass, but that is arguably what she did. so you had some people benefiting, as i say, completely natural to want to do that. but then that created or helped to create a massive shortage in social housing and we are in a real crisis in this country. one of the ways to tackle that crisis, obviously, is to build more houses and to tackle nimbyism and that's what

the government and angela rayner say they are absolutely determined to do. but it also seems sensible to cut back on the right to buy. but if it's going to help, the greater good. >> but if they said from right to buy all the receipts from right to buy go into a council house fund, that would fund more council housing, that it takes time. >> of course it would be quicker. it takes but it takes time to build houses. so you've got to build houses, but at the same time you don't want your existing stock to be downgraded or degraded. >> well, let's think about it. margaret thatcher initiated this policy because she thought the state should not be there to give you a house. partly she wanted to lose that culture, that the state will provide you with a roof over your head. so she sold them off effectively and subsequent governments, every government subsequently labour and conservative have not built enough social housing. they never replaced them . so they never replaced them. so where we are in 2024 with angela rayner saying we're going to

build more council houses and we're not going to let you buy them. what's she saying is in them. what's she saying is in the future the state will look after you and i'm a little bit uncomfortable with that change of ideology. >> well, we don't want people on our streets, do we? so people need. >> i quite like them working really, really hard and being able to buy affordable housing. >> but the suggestion that people who live in social housing don't work really, really hard will offend a lot of people who live in social housing. so i don't think this is about ideology from angela raynen is about ideology from angela rayner. this is about the practical and desperate need that there is in this country for social housing. listen, i am really in favour. surprise, surprise of social mobility. you know, if you think back to the grammar schools which have many of them have gone over the years, sadly they were a really important lever for people to move up, as it were, through society. i understand the arguments that the right to buy also helped the problem is who gets left behind. >> just very briefly, because i'm pressed for time, this is what would this say about

labour? this labour government people say they're not really in favour of the working classes. this is a kick in the working classes. it's a kick in their aspirations. >> not if it's not. if you're struggling to get a roof over your head. not if there aren't enough social houses for you to actually have a home. no this isn't this is absolutely not an attack on the working classes. this is facing up to the reality that there is a massive shortage. and who loses out from that shortage? the working classes. >> okay. thank you matt. controversial. let us know your thoughts. gbnews.com/yoursay. up next, we'll be talking to dame esther rantzen's daughter about her mother's desperate plea to mps in relation to assisted dying. don't go anywhere. this is britain's newsroom

welcome back. it's 1049. welcome back. it's1049. this is britain's newsroom on gb news. >> so tomorrow, mps get the chance to introduce new bills. they're called private members

bills. they have a ballot and an mp can then bring forward legislation. normally doesn't have much chance of getting through, but just occasionally it does. >> so one possible bill that's been spoken about for a while is on assisted dying, and dame esther rantzen has issued a heartfelt plea for mps to allow a vote on the issue so that the law can be changed. >> well, let's talk now to the tv presenter and daughter of dame esther rantzen, who is of course, rebecca wilcox. rebecca, morning to you. we've all been very moved, rebecca, by your mum's , statements on assisted mum's, statements on assisted dying and her own battle against cancer , she's a very, very cancer, she's a very, very persuasive advocate of a law change. we've got a new government now, but are you confident perhaps there may be progress in this area , progress in this area, >> well, thank you for having me and saying such lovely things about mum. she is indomitable. in fact, people refer to being assisted as a verb because she manages to persuade them to do

whatever it is that she is asking them to do. quite often it is to join a very worthwhile campaign, and in the past it has been for other people. it has been for other people. it has been for other people. it has been for vulnerable children and vulnerable adults through childline and the silver line. but now this one is really personal. this one is about her very imminent future. this one is about her access to choice, which is not something i ever thought that my mum, who has always been a fantastic decision maker, has always been hugely independent, has always been very forthright. it's not something i ever thought she would have to struggle with, but she is curtailed by the boundanes she is curtailed by the boundaries of the law. and sir keir starmer, before he became prime minister, promised that there would be a free vote, promised that he would give it his backing, it feels like it's stalled. it feels like a lot is going on. obviously, i think this is not an easy time for anybody. i'm sure he's organised his tickets to oasis. i would like him now to organise an

assisted dying bill. >> what will you do if he doesn't , rebecca? doesn't, rebecca? >> i will go and sit on the doorstep of 10 downing street. >> i hear they have a cat. i like them, i'll just stroke the cat while i wait and wait for him to agree to it. because frankly , time is running out. frankly, time is running out. time is running out for so many families. this is not just my mother's campaign , obviously. mother's campaign, obviously. it's personal to us because of my mother's involvement and because of what she is going through with her stage four terminal cancer. but so many families are facing exactly the same situation. this anvil of horror hanging over their heads, which is the future. and it's not knowing whether you're going to have the death that you want, the death that is kind. the death that is referred to as good.in death that is referred to as good. in the report that came out earlier this year. or you're going to have one of those awful, painful deaths that destroys every memory that your family has of you. my father's death wasn't as terrible as it could have been, but i still

remember moment by moment, second by second. his death in hospital, way more than i remember. our last conversation, our last hug, our last cup of tea together. i remember the dnps tea together. i remember the drips, the beeps, the pain, the anguish, the nurses, the conversations carried on outside the curtains . and if mum is the curtains. and if mum is having pain, is mum is writhing in agony and she i know that you probably can't imagine that. i can't imagine her like that. she is. she is voracious and awesome and incredible and she is not somebody that should be withering in a deathbed, writhing in pain . so i will, writhing in pain. so i will, i will fight. >> so just just we i know we get very squeamish about this sort of thing. rebecca and particularly maybe brits, we're a little bit buttoned up about this sort of thing. i genuinely believe you can have what would believe you can have what would be termed a good death. i totally believe that is that is possible for many people. but what would that look like for your mum? what would her ideal passing look like? would she be

at home? would she have you around her? just help people to understand the practicalities of that ? that? >> well, i don't want to put words into her mouth, she probably has very strong views. in fact, of course, she has very strong views on what her ideal death would be. she's horribly allergic to champagne. but i guess if this is the last drink, she could have a beautiful glass of very expensive pink champagne, a beautiful, warm, bubbly bath put on every diamond that anybody can lend her, and then have a nice, peaceful last meal , last then have a nice, peaceful last meal, last chat. we'll all surround her. she's got so many grandchildren. she's got all of us kids. she's got some wonderful, really close friends. she would love to say goodbye to everybody. and then just gently, gently slip away. that's a good death. i mean, that's that's a heavenly death. >> and at a time of her choosing, i think fundamentally , choosing, i think fundamentally, yeah, that's exactly it. >> it's when she wants to go.

it's the choice. that's what we're asking for. we're not asking for carte blanche to commit suicide. we're saying that if you have a terminal diagnosis of less than six months to be given the choice . months to be given the choice. >> okay, rebecca, sorry to wrap it up and send her our love. >> rebecca. send her our love. >> rebecca. send her our love. >> we will. thank you. right. still to come? we're going to be taking the grunfeld report live. see you in a minute. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on gb news. >> good morning. welcome to your latest gb news weather update brought to you from the met office . sunshine and showers for office. sunshine and showers for most of us today. some of those showers could be quite heavy across northwestern areas, but in any sunshine it will still feel fairly warm. we've got high pressure building in for northern areas as we head towards the weekend, but before then a number of weather fronts still bringing some outbreaks of rain throughout today. so across eastern areas it will stay quite cloudy through a lot of today. there's a risk of some quite

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gb news. gb news. >> morning, 11 am. on >> morning, 11 am. on wednesday, the 4th of september. wednesday, the 4th of september. live across the uk. this is live across the uk. this is britain's newsroom with andrew britain's newsroom with andrew pierce and bev turner. pierce and bev turner. >> so the final report in the >> so the final report in the grenfell inquiry is coming out grenfell inquiry is coming out any minute now. any minute now. >> so we will cross live to the >> so we will cross live to the inquiry for that report by sir inquiry for that report by sir

martin. what's his name martin. what's his name , sir martin. what's his name, sir martin. what's his name, sir martin moore—bick is a retired lord chief justice. he's been in the hot seat for seven years. >> that's right. of course, to just remind you, the disaster claimed the lives of 72 people. it was june 2017. it's just astonishing that these inquiries take so long. how can it have taken seven years? >> and it was about a week after the general election. do you remember theresa may went up to grenfell tower to talk to the police and talked to the emergency services, but didn't talk to a single family? oh, do you remember? >> i did i'd forgotten that the heanngs >> i did i'd forgotten that the hearings concluded in november 2022. an update from the inquiry in april this year stated that the report would not be published before the next anniversary of the tragedy. oh, let's go. >> we can go there live now because sir martin is about to speak, publishing its final report, dealing with the root causes of the fire. >> in phase one of the investigations, i examined the events of the 14th of june,

2017. how the fire started, how it escaped from the flat where it escaped from the flat where it had begun, and how it spread over the whole building with tragic consequences. my report on that series of events was published on the 30th of october, 2019. in the second phase of the inquiry, the panel has been investigating the underlying causes of the fire with a view to identifying where mistakes were made and ensuring that a similar disaster cannot occur again . this second part of occur again. this second part of the investigations has taken longer than we had hoped, partly because of the broad scope of our terms of reference , and our terms of reference, and partly because, as our investigations progressed, we uncovered many more matters of concern than we had originally expected. as we discovered, it is not possible properly to

understand the causes of the fire without understanding the way in which knowledge of the materials and methods of construction employed in the refurbishment developed over the course of time, what the government and others learnt about them, and how the regulations and guidance relating to their use developed dunng relating to their use developed during the same period . the during the same period. the information obtained in that part of our investigations provided the background to our examination of the refurbishment itself and the various decisions taken in the course of it, particularly in relation to the selection of materials . in selection of materials. in addition, it has been necessary for us to examine the way in which fire safety at grenfell tower was managed , including the tower was managed, including the arrangements for fire risk assessments and the response to them , as well as the them, as well as the relationship between the tenant management organisation and the

residents of the tower . the residents of the tower. the firefighting operations of the london fire brigade were considered in detail in my first report, but a number of questions relating to organisation and training could not be answered at that stage and were deferred for consideration in phase two. also deferred to phase two were certain questions relating to the development of the fire, including the relative contributions of the different materials used in the cladding . materials used in the cladding. another important aspect of our terms of reference was to investigate the response of the authorities to the emergency. finally but most importantly, it was necessary for us to investigate in as much detail as the evidence would allow. the circumstances surrounding the deaths of those who perished in the fire. the report we are

publishing today contains our findings on all these and other

engineer particular the fire engineer exova warrington fire , the local exova warrington fire, the local authorities building control department and the london fire brigade . not all of them bear brigade. not all of them bear the same degree of responsibility for the eventual disaster, but as our reports show, all contributed to it in one way or another. in most cases through incompetence. but in some cases through dishonesty and greed. the failings can be traced back over many years, and our efforts to get to the bottom of what went wrong and why account for the length of our report and the time it has taken to us produce it. however, if an inquiry of this kind is to produce anything of value, it is necessary for those who can influence the future direction of the construction industry, the fire and rescue services,

the fire and rescue services, the management of fire safety in buildings and resilience planning to understand exactly where mistakes were made and how they can be avoided in the future . the report is divided future. the report is divided into 14 parts, broadly by reference to related subjects . reference to related subjects. some contain several some parts contain several chapters, some only one. as with the phase one report, it begins with an introduction followed by an executive summary . although an executive summary. although the executive summary runs to 24 pages, the length of the report means that it can touch on only the most significant elements of our conclusions . however, it our conclusions. however, it should assist readers in finding their way around the report . their way around the report. part two describes significant events that provided the background to the fire. it begins by explaining how the

regulations and guidance in force at the time of the refurbishment came into being , refurbishment came into being, and the way in which the reaction to fire of materials used in the construction of modern high rise buildings was tested . we then consider the tested. we then consider the involvement of the government in the form of the then department for communities and local government, the way in which it sought to monitor the causes of fires when they occurred , and fires when they occurred, and most importantly, the warning signs that were emerging from as early as 1991 that some kinds of materials in particular aluminium composite material panels with unmodified polyethylene cores, were dangerous . we find that there dangerous. we find that there was a failure on the part of the government and others to give proper consideration at an early stage , to the dangers of using stage, to the dangers of using combustible materials in the walls of high rise buildings

that including failing to amend in an appropriate way the statutory guidance on the construction of external walls . construction of external walls. that is, where the seeds of the disaster were sown . in part disaster were sown. in part three, we set out our findings about the testing and marketing of the main products used in the refurbishment. the reynobond panels, the celotex rs5000 insulation and the small amount of kingspan k15 insulation. we discovered that there had been systematic, systematic dishonesty on the part of manufacturers involving deliberate manipulation of the testing processes and calculated attempts to mislead purchasers into thinking that what were combustible materials complied with the provisions of the statutory guidance that advised against their use that dishonest

approach to marketing was compounded by the failure of two of the bodies that provided certificates of compliance with the building regulations and statutory guidance , the british statutory guidance, the british board of agreement and local authority building control , to authority building control, to scrutinise the information provided to them with sufficient care and exercise, the degree of figour care and exercise, the degree of rigour and independence that was to be expected of them . the to be expected of them. the tenant management organisation was at the heart of events leading up to the fire. in part four of the report, we make our findings about its relationship with the residents of grenfell tower. we find that the organisation was badly run and failed to respond to criticisms of its treatment of residents contained in independent reports produced in 2009. it is clear that for some years before the

fire, relations between the tmo and residents were marked by distrust , antagonism and distrust, antagonism and increasingly bitter confrontation. we find that for the tmo to have allowed the relationship to deteriorate to such an extent reflects a serious failure on its part to observe its basic responsibilities . part five of responsibilities. part five of the report is concerned with the management of fire safety at the tower . again, we find that the tower. again, we find that the residents were badly let down. the picture is one of a persistent failure to give sufficient importance to the demands of fire safety, particularly the safety of vulnerable people, and a failure on the part of the council to scrutinise that aspect of the organisation's activities adequately . part of the reason

adequately. part of the reason for that was the failure of the chief executive, robert black, to ensure that the board of the tmo and the council were kept properly informed of matters affecting fire safety . that was affecting fire safety. that was despite periodic expressions of concern by the london fire brigade about compliance with the fire safety order, all of which should have been drawn to their attention . the tmo's their attention. the tmo's failure to attach sufficient importance to fire safety is illustrated by its reliance on a single person, karl stokes, as fire risk assessor for its entire estate . despite his lack entire estate. despite his lack of qualifications and experience by its failure to carry out necessary remedial work identified in fire risk assessments promptly by its failure to provide measures to mitigate the absence of an effective smoke ventilation

system , and by its failure to system, and by its failure to introduce appropriate arrangements for inspecting and maintaining fire prevention systems , in particular, systems, in particular, self—closing devices on the entrance doors to individual flats . in addition, the tmo flats. in addition, the tmo failed to maintain a reasonably accurate record of those residents of the tower who were vulnerable for one reason or another and likely to need help to escape. if a fire occurred . to escape. if a fire occurred. part six of the report contains our findings about the refurbishment itself. and again, the picture is disturbing. first, the regulatory context in which the work was carried out was, in our view , unsatisfactory was, in our view, unsatisfactory because the statutory guidance, which was treated by many in the construction industry, including those engaged on the refurbishment as containing a

sufficient statement of what was required , did not make it clear required, did not make it clear enough that it was subject to the overriding requirements of the overriding requirements of the building regulations . that the building regulations. that was a particular problem in relation to the rainscreen panels , which, although they panels, which, although they satisfied the requirement in the guidance for a material with a class nought surface, contained a highly combustible core , but a highly combustible core, but thatis a highly combustible core, but that is only the beginning. the tenant management organisation has the client manipulated the process of appointing an architect to design the refurbishment, in order to avoid the need to invite open tenders for the architectural services . for the architectural services. it did so because it wanted to appoint studio e, the architect for the existing academy and leisure centre project , despite leisure centre project, despite the fact that it had no experience of over cladding, a high rise building that turned

out to have significant consequences because studio e failed to recognise as a reasonably competent architect, should have done that. the insulation and rainscreen chosen for the refurbishment were combustible and unsuitable for that purpose. acm panels were chosen as the rainscreen to keep down the cost. neither rydon, the principal contractor nor harley. its cladding subcontractor, was aware. so that's the martin moore—bick. >> i think his report is 1700 words pages , so we're probably words pages, so we're probably not going to stay for the entire duration. as he goes through it. but i'd like to stay with us in the studio is sirjake berry, who was a minister in the department of communities and local government . it was your local government. it was your department, jake , that this fell department, jake, that this fell unden department, jake, that this fell under. so the day when we wake up, you wake up in the morning. what was the atmosphere like in

your department? >> so it was actually it was very close to the general election. if you recall, immediately following the general election , theresa may general election, theresa may appointed me as a minister in this department. it was my second day into the department. i went in, there was an unbelievable feeling of shock and grief and trauma about this appalling tragedy that had taken place. and for all of the ministerial team who got together with the then permanent secretary, melanie dawes, now at ofcom, we immediately realised that this was probably the biggest thing we were ever going to deal with in our lives, and certainly the biggest thing that the department for communities and local government had ever deau and local government had ever dealt with. it was an appalling loss of life. our first sort of reaction was to ensure that the families who were so terribly affected, those who had survived and those who died, you know, relatives of those who died were

supported properly, the second thing we then had to do is in very short order, try and understand how extensive this problem with was with this flammable cladding. and we now learn in this report today that it's extremely extensive . and it's extremely extensive. and then also, there was an entire process of trying to understand how we could set up this inquiry. this has taken seven years to report , or an initial ambition report, or an initial ambition was to do it much more quickly. but it's such a complicated inquiry. well, i think it's such a complicated inquiry. there was former secretaries of state like eric pickles, labour secretaries of state, who had to give evidence. they all had to be given access to their old papers in the department to understand what role they may or may not have had in terms of rolling out this cladding on on social housing. and i think the real question that i've got , and housing. and i think the real question that i've got, and i'm really glad that this report has come out today, it's very critical of government , quite critical of government, quite correctly, of all political stripes since the 1990s. it's

actually quite critical of the london fire brigade, who it says didn't have a plan to deal with this sort of this sort of emergency in a building. but it's worst sort of anger and criticism is directed at the companies that, provided this cladding and installed it. it goes as far as saying that they have purposely misled because they knew it was on the safety tests. and the real question, i mean , i've got i'm going to mean, i've got i'm going to repeat read the report in detail. it's obviously just come out now. i've played quite a big part of working in that department. i'm really interested to see what it says, but i think it asks much broader questions about our society. this isn't the only scandal where we are sat on television programmes talking about the appalling impact . we've, of appalling impact. we've, of course, had the infected blood scandal that took decades incorrectly and another government, another failure of government. the post office scandal , another failure of scandal, another failure of government, another failure of government. and now this. and i'm just interested to know who

is going to pick up the potentially multi—billion pound cost of sorting out this cladding . i'm guessing it's cladding. i'm guessing it's going to be the taxpayer. what action is the government going to take against these cladding companies? who according to this report, purposely misled the government and in this case, kensington and chelsea council . kensington and chelsea council. but it is just very, very depressing that we've waited seven years for another report, which really tells us what i knew on the first day when i walked into the department at the time as well, some people in the time as well, some people in the labour party were trying to depict this as wicked. >> kensington and chelsea tory council neglecting poor people in the poorest part of the borough, sticking this cladding on, knowing it was this . that on, knowing it was this. that was a terrible misrepresentation of what happened . of what happened. >> well, it was, i think, technically i think it was actually a labour government that stipulated that the cladding should be put on the buildings in the first place. and that's why this report identifies multiple failures of multiple governments across decades. but i don't think the families and the supporters and

the friends of those, you know, affected by this appalling grenfell tragedy want us politicians or people involved in this today to start pointing the finger in terms of politics. i think they want us to come out and acknowledge the mistakes we've made, but also have that wider call about how do these pubuc wider call about how do these public scandals continue continually happen. we've named but three on this, but we could we could go on. how do they keep happening and why is it always the taxpayer and ultimately the british public that pays the pnce? >> as you pnce? >> a s you say , pnce? >> as you say, jake, this report has pretty much just been, revealed systemic dishonesty by the manufacturers of the cladding and insulation is one of the conclusions the us firm arconic, which manufactured the reynobond 55 cladding, which experts inquiry said was by far the largest contributor to the fire and the companies deliberately concealed the true extent of the danger. using its products like that doesn't hold

any punches, does it? we know, you know , i mean, it's you know, i mean, it's excoriating when it comes to these these manufacturers punches. >> but what this report doesn't address, of course, there is still hundreds of people going to sleep every single night in buildings with this on, we've got to take a quick break. >> one of the other conclusions how building safety is managed in england and wales is, quote, seriously defective. so another big issue on the desk of sir keir starmer staying with us. >> stay with us. we'll be bringing you the latest on the grenfell tower report in a moment

>> welcome back. it's 1123. this is britain's newsroom on gb news and me, bev turner and andrew pierce. we've been hearing about the grenfell tower report with. >> now i'm joined by our gb news political correspondent katherine forster who's been there. catherine, this is a mammoth, epic publication. tell us what we've learned so far,

catherine. >> yes. good morning to both of you. i've spent the last three hours reading some of the over 1600 pages of this utterly damning report, which has taken over seven years to produce since 72 people lost their lives in that fire just a couple of miles from here in west london. and the headlines that decades of failure by central government and other bodies in positions of responsibility in the construction industry. now, as the inquiry chairman, sir martin moore—bick, just said that all avoidable and that those who lived in the tower were badly failed by government manufacturers. the royal borough of kensington and chelsea, the london fire brigade and the list, frankly, goes on and on. he says

that they were failed mostly through incompetence, but in some cases by dishonesty and greed. now frankly, there is a huge amount of blame being spread around now. some of it rests with the government. they say that from 1991, this knowsley house fire, the risks of using cladding in high rise buildings was well known, and that by 2016 the department of communities and local government knew of these risks and talks about the government's deregulatory agenda and how that extended basically to fire safety . two but a failure of safety. two but a failure of multiple bodies, the regulators who were supposed to make sure that materials used in building were safe, but a huge amount of blame to with the architectural

firm and the manufacturers who knew of the risks of the products. in the case of the manufacturers, and deliberately covered up those risks and sold them on in the interests of profits. now, obviously, the families this is an ongoing horror for them . they sure they horror for them. they sure they have answers, but what they want to see now is action. they want to see now is action. they want to see now is action. they want to see people going to jail , to see people going to jail, people held accountable and change. we will be hearing from some of them in the next couple of hours. the police are investigating 19 organisations and 58 individuals and if they decide to prosecute anybody that probably wouldn't begin until at least 2026. >> that's katherine forster who

is at the inquiry for us. we've still got with us in the studio. sir jake berry was a minister in sirjake berry was a minister in that department. you were just telling us that when you got to your desk in that morning, grenfell tower was still burning. >> i mean , it was. so, look, it >> i mean, it was. so, look, it was a difficult day for me . i was a difficult day for me. i mean, the people it was really difficult for the people who've been affected and their families have been affected by this appalling tragedy. you know, there's quite a lot of criticism of the civil service in this report. and multiple failures over the years, but to give them their due on that day, i also saw them at their best. these are hugely committed individuals who came into work. they were working through the night. who came into work. they were working through the night . they working through the night. they and, you know, trying to find solutions. but what really brought it home to me wasn't just that day. it was later on that evening. i was driving down the a40 and you could see, in fact, you can still see grenfell tower today. clad in a memorial for the families . but you could for the families. but you could see the building as a black,

burnt out shell, a scene of an appalling tragedy. and it just really brought home, i think, to everyone who looked at that building, the appalling scale of this tragedy and the fire and happening in such a rich, wealthy country. >> yeah . >> yeah. >> yeah. >> as catherine just said, there , >> as catherine just said, there, jake and also mike parry and stephen pound have joined us in the studio as well. as catherine just said there there will be families who want criminal prosecutions. they want to see people in jail for this. what are the chances do you think of that happening? and what could somebody be charged with under these circumstances? >> well, i sort of cover it. so i haven't had the opportunity to read the full report. i've just seen the headlines. it does seem to me that there may well be a case made for corporate manslaughter. the court, the inquiry says that there was deliberate concealment and falsification of the fire test in relation to these cladding panels. if true, if proven in the court of law, it would seem to me the next reasonable step would for be us to pursue a

corporate manslaughter case against the directors or other people involved in those businesses. someone has to be held responsible for this. you know, dozens of people lost their lives. it's the biggest tragedy. you know , biggest tragedy. you know, biggest tragedy. you know, biggest tragedy in housing. but almost in britain, really, for four decades, 72 people lost their lives, someone has to be held responsible and criminally responsible and criminally responsible if that should happen to the building. >> because at the moment, it's still it's got the heart in it. we love grenfell. grenfell is always in our hearts. but what should happen to that? should it become a museum? >> well, the plan is in, funding was made available by the government to make it into a memorial gardens to commemorate the people who lost their lives. thatis the people who lost their lives. that is making slow progress. but i think, quite correctly, the government and the local authority want to be in close consultation with the family and the friends of people who lost their lives or people who were just affected by this and move at the pace that they feel comfortable with. >> i always thought it should

have been pulled down within days of the tragedy happening. i agree, i think in any other country they'd have said right, we've got to be very firm about this. this stands as a disgrace to this country. pull it down. >> although although it's a crime scene, but it's also it's not what the families wanted. >> yeah. and you know, this is an appalling human tragedy. yes. there are lots of failures, but we were absolutely clear within the department that we would move at the speed at which families would wish to move. and in relation to i understand that very strong feeling. it's not something i'd necessarily disagree with. yeah, but it's also, you know, that people, people , people's ashes are in people, people's ashes are in the building, as it were. >> i agree with that. but seeing that monument all the time to the terror that went on, i thought it was better to get rid of jake rightly talks about his officials. >> i mean, i'd just been re—elected. we just had we had the general election the month before, and it's about two miles from where i live. we saw the smoke when i went down there the next day, because we heard about it about 6:00 in the morning, and we immediately knew that

there's something horrendous going on. and my local authority and a group of us went there. what i found was absolutely extraordinary. you credit your officials quite rightly. i credit the local community, the local church opened up immediately, even a local synagogue. i didn't even know there was a synagogue there. they were there and all. and a local mosque all working together. we saw the worst. i have to say . i together. we saw the worst. i have to say. i think we saw together. we saw the worst. i have to say . i think we saw the best. >> and also, even though they've been sorry, jake, but we are already late for the news in san francisco is waiting for us. >> but don't go anywhere. we'll carry this on after the news. here's sam. >> very good morning to you from the newsroom just after 1130. plenty more on that detailed 1700 page report on the grenfell fire from that inquiry later this morning. first, though, a look at the other news leading this morning. french police have stormed a beach at around 200. migrants scrambled to get to their boats into the water as they crossed the english channel. earlier dramatic footage shows people wading into the water, many of them not wearing life jackets , before

wearing life jackets, before pushing away from the shore. it came just 12 hours after people had died attempting to make that crossing, including, sadly, a pregnant woman and six children. after the bottom of their boat pred after the bottom of their boat ripped open. that disaster adds to a growing death toll, with 226 people, including 35 children, now thought to be missing or dead. after attempting that crossing this year alone , four of the five year alone, four of the five children arrested over the murder of eight year old bebe coli have been released without charge. coli was attacked while walking his dog in franklin park, near leicester, on sunday, and later died in hospital. a 14 year old boy does remain in police custody as investigations continue. well, that group, aged between 12 and 14, were initially arrested on suspicion of murder after a post—mortem revealed the victim died from a neck injury. police are now urging anyone with information about that attack to come forward . england's gp services

forward. england's gp services face a critical tipping point, according to a new study . according to a new study. researchers from the university college london found that while the nhs workforce did grow by 20% from 2015 to 2022, the number of gps per 1000 patients fell by 15%. gp practices also dropped by 20% over the decade, despite an 11% rise in the number of patients registering. concerns are now growing over the increasing reliance on non—medical staff, with experts warning it could impact the quality of care. though the government has promised reforms, including hiring more gps and raising their pay . conservative raising their pay. conservative mps will be kicking off their first round of voting today to choose a successor to rishi sunak. that initial ballot, set for this afternoon will begin narrowing the field of six candidates down, with further rounds throughout september. the contenders include james cleverly, robert jenrick dame priti patel, tom tugendhat , mel priti patel, tom tugendhat, mel stride and kemi badenoch . an stride and kemi badenoch. an exam board is warning today that

gcse students are taking too many exams and spending more than 30 hours in tests, among the highest globally. ocr is one of the main exam boards, is calling for a reduction in the number and intensity of those exams, proposing instead a shift towards a more balanced and relevant curriculum. the report backed by education figures, comes as the government launches its own review into curriculum and assessment . and finally, in and assessment. and finally, in the sport, dame sarah storey has added yet another medal to her remarkable career. she's clinched her 18th paralympic gold in the women's c5 time trial, completing the 14.1km course in just 20 minutes and 22 seconds. the 46 year old, who started her sporting journey in swimming, now boasts 29 paralympic medals, solidifying her status as team gb's most decorated paralympian . those are decorated paralympian. those are the latest headlines for now. plenty more on that news from

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>> 1138 this >>1138 this is britain's newsroom on gb. news from bev turner and andrew pierce. we still have in the studio stephen pound, mike parry and of course sir jake berry. right >> sirjake berry. right >> we were talking about criminal culpability , but we criminal culpability, but we still know jake is that this cladding is still on dozens and dozens, if not more public buildings . dozens, if not more public buildings. it's got to come off. >> so it's a mix, isn't it? so there's still night watches being held in buildings. could you, could you imagine , you you, could you imagine, you know, going to bed at night with your children, maybe in the next

room to you and thinking we could not wake up in the morning to this. you know, there could be a knock on the door if there's a fire. you know, we could be, we could we could die . could be, we could we could die. i mean, it's appalling where those buildings are publicly owned, where their housing association or belong to local authorities, actually very good progress is. and has been made in relation to taking the cladding off. it's just very time consuming. there's a lot of buildings to do, particularly high rise buildings, local authority buildings. there's also a separate scandal where buildings were privately owned, built by major national developers. they, through no fault of their own , incorporated fault of their own, incorporated this planning because that's what they were told to do by the government's building regs to make sure this is an energy efficient building and you still have thousands of people up and down this country paying a mortgage to live in an unsafe building where their flat is effectively worthless. now there's been quite a lot of money come forward from the government to help people, but ultimately it is the job of the developers to put this right. >> why is it the taxpayer

footing the bill? as usual, but it's not a very clear cut situation. >> i've seen a case reported down in portsmouth, near where i live, of a young fella who bought his first ever flat, one bedroom flat, bought it for about £125,000. and the bill he was given to repair the cladding issue was £120,000. the young man committed suicide because he saw absolutely no way out, and that's happening all over the country. i'm a property investor. nearly a million pounds of property was rendered worthless for the reasons you've indicated, but if you had a buy to let property, you couldn't even rent it out and you will have gone around the country and seen these huge buildings with green netting all around them. okay that means they're replacing the cladding. but for instance, in two properties i had, they had to take the balconies off because after discovering that cladding was a big problem, they found a lot of the balcony floors were made of wood and wood. on a building like that would also have been a huge fire hazard. so they took the balconies off and had to repair them and put them back.

it's a massive it was actually internal wood that they were . internal wood that they were. >> but look, i thought michael gove had been pretty rational, pretty sensible about this. he'd actually said ultimately the principle that he was housing secretary. yeah. you know, the polluter pays and the criminal should actually pay. if a company is registered in the uk, surely we have some sanction. i'd normally i'd back michael gove in a case like this because he was a pretty tenacious minister and he and he did and he did pursue he did pursue. why has he not won? >> well, it's a partial victory because there are there are some companies that are paying to put this right. and the government has just heard relentless and relentlessly pursued them. there are thousands of people who are held in a sort of legal limbo, as an argument sometimes goes on between the building owner. many of these buildings were sold to pension funds when the last flat has been sold, so the building owner is often a pension fund. the developer , the producer of the developer, the producer of the cladding. we hear from this report today that there was systematic dishonesty by the company in respect of grenfell tower. that was producing this

cladding, so people are caught in a sort of legal limbo. i just wanted to come back to something. stephen was saying about the community reaction, though, because i think it's really important that we give the community the credit is due today. now, the london fire brigade has been quite heavily criticised in this report, particularly about not having a plan to deal with this sort of fire. but actually i know from my time in the department, the fire brigade, the ambulance service, the police, all our uniformed services, as well as the local community were fantastic. not just on the night and into the morning of this appalling tragedy, but for weeks and months afterwards, with the london fire brigade doing food banks, free food for people who'd lost their home with the community. as stephen said, churches , mosques and synagogues churches, mosques and synagogues coming together to support the community. so while this showed the worst of britain and systemic failures of government and the state in general, it also showed the best of britain in the community around grenfell

tower. >> i think that's an important point and i remember going there two days afterwards. we couldn't get into this , this catholic get into this, this catholic school at the base of it, so full of clothes and children's toys and things. but look, just on the point of corporate manslaughter and culpability. do you remember the asbestos scandal back in the 60s and the 70s? you know, when companies were actually putting lethal, you know, carcinogenic asbestos in buildings? the, the, the government pursued that and actually brought those, bought the money from the companies. and a couple of them went out of business about that. i thought if we could do it, then why can't we do it now? >> i guess some of the companies probably aren't even trading anymore. >> well, i think the company named in this report is based in the united states. i don't know, don't know the status of it, but the government, you know, there's been a lot of state failure here. and we've got to hold our hands up. steve and i, both ex members of parliament and in government ourselves, there's been a lot of state failure here which we have to hold our hands up to, but also we have to relentlessly pursue these companies and for the families affected by this appalling tragedy, quite correctly, as your reporter reporting live pointed out , they

reporting live pointed out, they want to see someone go to prison. it is not good enough to say, sort of throw our hands up like all of these, scandals that we've had from infected blood to the post office. we can't just throw our hands up and say how bad it is. people have to pay. people have to be punished. >> that the will, though, jake, i think and that's the problem because this is what shatters people's trust and faith in institutions completely. >> i also think what's been going on at the bbc deputy heads will roll is the motto of the bbc. >> yes, exactly. >> yes, exactly. >> this cladding from this american company called arconic. they have been accused in this report of deliberately concealing from the market the true extent of the danger of using reynobond five five pe in this cassette. yeah, but did they know at the time that there had been fires using this product in 2012, in dubai 2013 also. and yet it was still being sold and used in properties. we interviewed earlier, professor margaret heffernan , who wrote a margaret heffernan, who wrote a book called wilful blindness,

and she's an expert on institutional failures. jake. and she kind of talks about this sort of convergence of benefits , sort of convergence of benefits, that there were various people in these chain chains who for whom it's just easy just to keep your mouth shut, keep your head down, get your paycheque at the end of the month. don't raise awareness. don't be the whistleblower. don't point it out . how do whistleblower. don't point it out. how do you change whistleblower. don't point it out . how do you change that? out. how do you change that? >> well, we need we need a duty of candour, not just across our pubuc of candour, not just across our public sector, but our private sector as well. we can see all of these failings . we've named of these failings. we've named but three of them today. they clearly were people who knew about this. and they sort of i mean, they are as guilty by their sort of collusion with the conspiracy of silence about it, that's a societal thing , a that's a societal thing, a cultural thing. it can't just be by the government. but i think following these, these sort of three huge scandals coming in very close proximity to each other in terms of the reports about them. i think british attitudes are changing. i think people want to hear from the

government and how we inject that change. the duty of candour, pivotal moment, no question about it. well, i hope you're right, but how many times have we sat round following one of these reports, said this is a pivotal moment. this is a sea change. things do not change. >> i don't think we've ever faced anything of this immensity, of this horror. you know, we've had hillsborough, we've had all sorts of incidents in the past . we've never had in the past. we've never had anything which actually goes to the heart of government, goes to the heart of government, goes to the heart of governance, and it goes to the heart of accountability. and i think that's what's different about this. >> the building regulators know about these dangerous, substances being put on the side of buildings because don't we pride ourselves in this country as having the strongest building regulations in the world? you know, we sometimes go to the continent and we see houses in spain. this report criticising a failure of regulation. >> so there was they should have known, i mean, national planning, local planning. >> there's lots of safeguards, aren't there? >> so one of the criticisms of the coalition government between 2010 and 2015, there was some significant loosening of building regulations in terms of the inspection regime. and i think if people look at the report, they will see that's criticism talking about

countries with lax, sort of planning regimes. i read i wouldn't name any companies. i don't know which one, which ones. it may be that this cladding, which is now illegal in the united kingdom, is being dumped around the world and sold off cheap in countries which have a laxer building regs regime. scandalous. and again, if that is proven to be correct, i read it in a national newspaper. if that is proven to be correct, again, that is something that the government should act upon and say if these products are unsafe in britain or the united states, you can't just sell them to, you know, africa or china or any other continent. >> apparently they're selling them to turkey. but how do we stop it? >> jake, i'm looking at some of this report. so the government's expert advisor, in terms of building regulations, the building research establishment, bre, was apparently privatised in 1997, becoming a private company. it does beg the question whether an organisation like that should be a private company, because they will also have profit motives which may be

corruptible in some way. >> well, i haven't had the opportunity to read the report in detail, but i think it's all those sort of questions that this report will get to the bottom of. if it happened in 1997, i don't know whether it was tony blair's government or john major's government. >> just before may. right, >> just before may. right, >> but before tony blair. >> but before tony blair. >> yeah, clearly. >> yeah, clearly. >> clearly there is big criticism of the building regulations regime. i mean, to give people at home who are watching some comfort, who may have just moved into a brand new home, wherever it may be. there's been significant tightening up of the building regulation regime, quite correctly , and i'm sure that correctly, and i'm sure that that will continue under this labour government. >> yeah. well, it's we're trying to draw the conversation to a conclusion here, but this has to be one of the worst institutional failings by government, local government in our history . our history. >> it's certainly the worst in my lifetime that i'm aware of. >> i think one of the problems we face now is that planning regulations are actually being loosened to encourage more building , loosened to encourage more building, but building loosened to encourage more building , but building regs, building, but building regs, because if you build a house, the local council has to give

you two sorts of permission. you know, one is basic planning permission and the other is building regulations. and i think planning permission may well be loosened. building regs i think, will be tightened. and i think, will be tightened. and i think, will be tightened. and i think people should actually be speaking to the local councillors and the local council. what we need is the sunlight of disinfectant on this . sunlight of disinfectant on this. we need to know what people are actually doing about it. we never again has to be our watchword. >> okay, that was stephen pound, that was mike parry, that was jake berry. they're all going to come and see us again. thank you all. still to come. sir keir starmer takes on rishi sunak at prime minister questions. i'm not. that's going to be about i suspect winter fuel and labour's cruel decision. stephen pound to take it off of pensions like you. >> i'm with kemi badenoch. i think it's a very, very sensible thing. >> don't go anywhere. this is britain's newsroom on gb news. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar, sponsors of weather on gb news >> good morning. welcome to your latest gb news weather update brought to you from the met

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gb news. >> well, we're going to go live to the grenfell united press conference. this is relatives of the people who died in the grenfell fire to get their reaction to the major report that's been released today . that's been released today. >> today marks the conclusion of a painful six years. listening to the advice that contributed to the advice that contributed to the advice that contributed to the deaths of 54 adults and 18 children. they were our loved ones, our neighbours and our friends . today's report speaks friends. today's report speaks to the lack of competence ,

to the lack of competence, understanding and fundamental failure to perform the most bafic failure to perform the most basic duties of care . we paid basic duties of care. we paid the price of systematic dishonesty , institutional dishonesty, institutional indifference and neglect. the government ignored warnings about dangerous cladding from as early as 1991. it knew the risk but failed to prevent them revealing the greed and profiteering of an industry that has been poorly regulated by governments over decades. it uncovers the systematic failings at the tmo and rbkc, which created a toxic , calculated created a toxic, calculated culture which marginalised its residents . it shows the senior residents. it shows the senior management at the london fire brigade knew about the risk of cladding fires, but did nothing to prepare. but above all, the judge concludes what we already knew that every single loss of

life that night was avoidable. human life was never a priority and we lost friends, neighbours and we lost friends, neighbours and loved ones in the most horrific way. through greed , horrific way. through greed, corruption, incompetence and negligence. the recommendations published today are basic safety principles that should already exist , principles that should already exist, highlighting how the government's role , duties and government's role, duties and obugafions government's role, duties and obligations have been hollowed out by privatisation , where out by privatisation, where voids were created as the government outsourced their duties. kingspan celotex and arconic filled the gaps with substandard and combustible materials . they were allowed to materials. they were allowed to manipulate the testing regime fraudulently and knowingly market their products as safe . market their products as safe. today, we send a message to keir starmer and his government. this country has been failed by

governments of all political persuasions. our expectation is your government will break old habhs your government will break old habits and implement all the recommendations made by sir martin moore—bick report without further delay, because the time to address this is already three decades too late for the report to be worth anything. it must be, and bring systemic change to prevent another tragedy like grenfell. your government needs to create something that doesn't exist. you must become a government with the power and ability to separate itself from the construction industry and corporate lobbying. a government that prioritises and tackles the glaring structural injustices and social and racial inequalities of the people you serve. you must now finally make this the turning point for britain to the police and the crown prosecution service. it's now up to you to deliver justice, to bring charges to

those culpable for the deaths of our loved ones . we would like to our loved ones. we would like to thank the public for their continued support of the breed survivors and the grenfell community. you were there for us when it happened. we asked for you to continue to stand with us, to stand for what's right and help us in holding those responsible to account . finally, responsible to account. finally, to the 54 adults and 18 children whose lives got cut short in the most violent way, we will never give up fighting for justice for you, and you will forever be in our hearts. thank you . our hearts. thank you. >> well, that was the grenfell tower families talking and their reaction to that official . we're reaction to that official. we're back. it's the first prime minister's questions of this new parliamentary term. sir keir starmer has only his second pmqs as prime minister. >> it feels like it's been a lot longer than that, doesn't it? olivia. oh, olivia. and gloria de piero. there you are. good to

see you both. right. how's it all going there? i guess you want questions from us. >> we do. >> we do. >> we do. >> we want. we don't. actually, we don't have time for you. i'm afraid we're going to go straight to our viewers. this show is all about them. please send us your questions to gbnews.com/yoursay. >> this is gb news, britain's news channel. pmqs live starts right now . right now. it is about to turn midday on wednesday the 4th of september. this is pmqs live on gb news with gloria de piero and olivia utley. >> in just a moment, keir starmer and rishi sunak go head to head at prime minister's questions. we'll have full coverage of every moment and we'll be getting reaction from labour mp for bolsover natalie fleet and shadow veterans minister andrew bowie. >> we will go straight to the

chamber just as soon as the prime minister on his feet . prime minister on his feet. different position from your normal position. you are now in opposition. what should your leader, the leader of the opposition, rishi sunak, put to keir starmer ? keir starmer? >> obviously i think grenfell will quite rightly dominate the news agenda, but there is a statement on that coming up immediately after pmqs. so if i was rishi today i would probably go on the winter fuel allowance decision made before the recess. >> and natalie, what would you say to that? our pension is going to freeze this winter. >> i'd go in really hard if i was keir starmer on the government mess. >> the last government put us into record levels of debt with, and it means that we've had to make really difficult choices to provide an economic stability so that we can all benefit in the long term. keir starmer never went into politics to make this decision, and i certainly didn't. we shouldn't be here. >> it's your fault. that's what the labour comeback is. andrew bowie we keep talking about this inheritance. >> labour have got from the conservative party. they got the fastest growing economy in the g7. unemployment at record low levels and indeed manufacturing