well >> hey, very good evening to you. it's 9:00 pm and this is you. it's 9:00pm and this is the patrick christys tonight show with me martin daubney. >> now our country has voted decisively for change for national renewal. >> well, keir starmer promised to keep his nose out of our lives. >> no prime minister wants to do what we have to do in relation to the winter fuel allowance, but he just couldn't stop . but he just couldn't stop. >> and the pensioners winter fuel allowance gets the push.

well, train drivers and the unions get flush. his labour, the true nasty party and he won't get rid of anyone. youth crime is totally out of control . crime is totally out of control. it's time to name and shame child killers and bang them up like we do adults. >> plus, i have long said before the election that i thought the rwanda scheme was a gimmick, which is why we stood it down immediately. >> well, keir starmer scrapped the rwanda plan on day one of his government, but now the german government wants to fill the same facilities that we paid for with their own illegal immigrants. you couldn't make it up. i'll be joined by reform lee anderson for his common sense, unfiltered take on politics. and here we go again. the pro—palestine mob announced they're planning a wave of protest chaos , and claimed the protest chaos, and claimed the labour party are dancing to their tune. on my panel tonight. it's the telegraph superstar columnist allison pearson looking fabulous , and tory peer

looking fabulous, and tory peer lord bailey and ex—labour adviser matthew laza. and apparently now dancing is working class . not make sense? working class. not make sense? >> well, you know. yes i'm working class. i like a dance. i like dance

working class. i like a dance. i like > absolutely ecstatic. i'm over the moon. i don't think it's quite properly sunk in yet, and i'm sure i'll do a bit of a happy dance later. but yeah, i couldn't be happier. it's been a long time coming. >> yes. so this is what we've been working really hard for, for 18 months is to secure the future of the site. and today we've learned that the site will no longer be part of the asylum programme, and it will be disposed of, and therefore, we can use our regeneration plans and proposals to move forward . brilliant. >> i can't believe it. it's great news. best news i've heard for a long time. >> meanwhile, it's being reported that germany is considering their own rwanda migrant scheme using uk facilities. germany's special representative for migration

agreements, joachim stamp, said the eu could use facilities set up the eu could use facilities set ”p by the eu could use facilities set up by the last uk government. labour cancelled the rwanda scheme, which was intended to deter migrants planning to cross the english channel in small boats when they entered the office. downing street said it would not comment on the discussions between two foreign governments . a 14 year old boy governments. a 14 year old boy has appeared in court charged with murdering an 80 year old grandfather in leicestershire. bhim kohli, who died from a neck injury while walking his dog, was just seconds away from home. the boy, who cannot be named, has been remanded in custody and will appear in leicester crown court and in the us. will appear in leicester crown court and in the us . donald court and in the us. donald trump has a job for billionaire supporter elon musk if he wins the november 5th election. the republican candidate laid out his economic vision for the country today, including the creation of a government efficiency commission that he said. elon musk has agreed to lead if the former president is elected. musk responded on his

social media platform x, saying, i look forward to serving america if the opportunity anses. america if the opportunity arises . those are the latest gb arises. those are the latest gb news headlines for now, i'm sophia wenzler more in an hour. >> for the very latest gb news to direct your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code or go to gb news. com forward slash alerts . com forward slash alerts. >> thank you sophia. now the conservative party we've always been led to believe, well, they are the true nasty party. since george osborne's age of austerity delivered £30 billion of cuts to welfare, housing subsidies and social services, labour have painted the tories as grasping, avaricious and mean. the tories robbed the poor to pay the rich. labour cried. this was angela rayner's take. >> cannot get any worse than a bunch of scum, homophobic,

racist , misogynistic, jo—anne racist, misogynistic, jo—anne nadler . nadler. >> like i said , working crass, >> like i said, working crass, but under labour we're about to enter a new age of austerity that could make the osborne years look like a tea party. let's start with the winter fuel allowance. and here's what keir starmer said about energy bills in 2022. >> and that's why the labour party has a fully costed plan to freeze energy bills this winter. under my leadership, labour is on the side of working people. and under my leadership, we can have a fresh start for britain. >> freeze well with £300 less in their metres, this winter. will it be pensioners who are freezing? and here's what rachel reeves also said in 2017. she said this i'll never forget the woman i spoke to in my leeds west constituency who had freezing hands and purple fingers because her pension wasn't enough to pay for her heating. well, it seems that she did forget about what that

pensioner said to her in leeds west. and here's what angela rayner tweeted. also back in 2017, labour will protect the triple lock on state pensions, maintain the winter fuel allowance and free bus passes for pensioners. and yet, after all of their bluster in opposition, just 24 days into power, you guessed it labour scrapped that winter fuel allowance for a majority of pensioners anyway. and worse, labour robbed that £1.4 billion from the elderly and gave £10 billion in inflation busting pay rises to their public sector chums. now that is the action of a nasty party. let's stick with pensioners for a moment. in 2017, when theresa may proposed to lift the cap on social care costs, labour dubbed it the dementia tax. but a month ago, rachel reeves quietly axed boris johnson's £86,000 cap on social care under labour. your life savings and even your house could disappear to pay for your

social care. so labour introduced their own version of a dementia tax and barely anybody noticed. now that is the actions of a nasty party. and next, thanks to the green eyed monster of net zero, you're hammered with ulez schemes and low traffic neighbourhoods. by 2030, they'll come for your coal. and all of these disproportionately hammer the working poor and of course, the elderly. and i put it to you again. those are the actions of again. those are the actions of a nasty party. in october, expect punishing tax raids on the haves to pay for the have nots , like the £8 billion per nots, like the £8 billion per yearin nots, like the £8 billion per year in unemployment benefits paid to 1.7 jobless immigrants or the £6.6 billion annually we spend on our asylum bill. what about the £11.6 billion that the labour party has pledged to foreign climate aid and the labour people who never paid in a penny, will win the jackpot, and people who've paid in all their lives will. they will pick up the tab. make no mistake ,

up the tab. make no mistake, it's the labour party that is the true, nasty party. okay, now let's get the thoughts of my panel let's get the thoughts of my panel. and tonight i'm joined by the superstar telegraph columnist allison pearson , lord columnist allison pearson, lord bailey, the tory peer. and of course , matthew laza former course, matthew laza former labour adviser. welcome to the show. thanks to have your company. let's start with you, allison, if we could. so the tories were always portrayed as the avaricious, grasping, mean types. are we seeing a new era? certainly the biscuit tin is empty. still blaming the conservatives, of course. but are we about to see a real meanness from the labour party? >> well, labour always said austerity. it's a choice, isn't it? it's a choice. and now we're seeing labour in government and they're making choices because certainly taking the winter fuel allowance away from 10 million pensioners is a choice . and the pensioners is a choice. and the fact is, martin, is that these are not super wealthy, comfortable pensioners. the cut off point is the pension credits limit and that is people earning

about £12,600 a year could be losing this winter. fuel allowance. and as you said in your introduction, they're happily giving 11.6 billion in overseas climate aid. i mean, that's just basically code for, you know, dictators in central african republic's buying a new mercedes diesel, isn't it really? and another example which i've been very concerned about. this week we saw david lammy, israel as everybody knows, had the horrible grief and shock of six of their hostages being executed by these absolutely monstrous hamas individuals. and david lammy thinks that's a really nice time to stand up in the house of commons and announce that they're going to be going to be cancelling some of the weapons contracts, deals with, with israel. and that has caused absolute outrage, not just amongst the. so he's thrown the jewish community under the bus. israel's furious. even the chief rabbi was furious. the united

states is not pleased, and even arab countries are not very pleased. and i thought that was the nastiest thing you could do to a really good country. that's been a friend to us and is in is in, is in a terrible situation. so they're doing quite well for now. you know, as you said, private school children under the bus, special needs children, pensioners, you know, you name it. yes. so they're doing they're doing quite well. and labour was able to pretend for 14 years to be compassionate, be kind martin, they say be kind. lots of this is not kind. >> matthew, let's bring you in at this point to defend your beloved party. >> oh, i'm going to have an evening of it. >> i can see with the caller they're getting a bit of a facing. no, no, the point is, alison makes a great point. this was a political choice. the winter fuel allowance didn't have to be axed. £10 billion went straight to public sector workers. not a good look, is it? you have to admit. >> well, i mean, public sector workers deserve the pay rise that they're getting. these were the independent pay review bodies. frankly, the tories

would likely have accepted that anyway because and they just they put off accepting it. the winter fuel allowance is something that you know, nobody in the labour party wanted to do. this was a labour policy introduced by gordon brown. yeah, they have done it because the cupboard is bare. because there is, there is no there is no money left. and i mean, you know, there is a case for the winter fuel allowance. >> there's £10 billion for the unions. >> well it's 10 billion, it's £10 billion for the unions. it's £10 billion for the unions. it's £10 billion for doctors, nurses , £10 billion for doctors, nurses, teaching assistants, teachers , teaching assistants, teachers, police officers and the army. i mean, you know, it's not it's not it's not 10 billion, it's ten. and on the winter fuel allowance. let me just put the case briefly for the winter fuel allowance, which is that what's happened is, is that fuel poverty amongst pensioners has halved over the past 25 years. pensioners as a group have also general poverty has gone down considerably. the problem is i don't think the government thought through the problem , thought through the problem, which is that and obviously the winter fuel allowance went to

very many people on not just 50, 60, 70 grand a year, but to millionaires as well. the problem is, as alison says, it's a blunt instrument because people just over the pension credit limit. so people on 1520 grand a year which have been hit. and i think that is a political that is a very political that is a very political difficulty. >> speaking of blunt instruments, lord bailey, you look like you've been hit over the head with one a minute ago. >> don't hit me with one. with one. matthew. >> matthew was saying, oh, no, there isn't a great deal of poverty around anymore. but the labour party have been saying opposition for years and years and years that the tories have dnven and years that the tories have driven everybody into poverty. >> well, poverty for working people has remained constant. >> there's two things to take from your notion that this is a nasty party. the real thing here is hypocrisy. so you look at all the tweets you showed, you look at all the statements they've made. they've constantly said the tories this tories that. it turns out they're awful. and i pointed this out on the show over a year ago, keir starmer very hard left. he he's pretended to be cuddly and nice. but the demonstration of taking 10 billion away from pensioners and giving it to what many people would consider highly paid train drivers, etc. is not a good look. and it is a fact.

the pension removal of the winter fuel payment is very mean because it comes so far down the income brackets. that's really bad news for a lot of pensioners who will struggle the exact same people. labour claim to be supporting all the way through the election . the election. >> alison all eyes on tuesday. of course this is going to go to a vote now. they were badgered into doing that vote. they didn't want to do the vote. now i reckon a canny party will just be looking at everybody who votes in favour of getting rid of the pension, winter fuel allowance, because they are going to be the most grasping, meanest mps in britain . the meanest mps in britain. the labour party will win this vote, but could they lose public trust? >> well, they'll win it comfortably. but they didn't want it, did they? they didn't want it, did they? they didn't want a public vote because they knew all these people, as we've talked about, you know, been able to sort of say, oh, we're so virtuous, we're so compassionate. well, suddenly they're going to be they're going to be exposed. they're going to be exposed. they're going to be faced with the fact that there are going to be people in their constituencies. and i know what matthew's saying about this cut off point, but

the fact is there are pensioners in this country. they're too proud to claim this pension credit. so that's probably a couple of million people. and people are going to freeze to death. and you remember labour saying, you know, eat or heat. that's the choice. so now that's going to be true of the labour party. >> and we are going to see what the government has promised is , the government has promised is, is it's promised to do a because there's lots of people, millions of people actually, who are entitled to pension credit, who don't get it. the government said it will do a big push to increase take up. interestingly thatis increase take up. interestingly that is likely to end up costing more than the. this is the point. >> people won't believe the government because the government, the labour party, said, well, we won't take away the winter fuel payment. bang. it's gone. so now people are in a case where they won't believe it. and here's the real thing. you'll have many young labour mps brand new, who'll have no idea what it's like to be on the hard side of the argument. they're about to get a barrage. they're about to get a barrage. the reason the government didn't want this vote, because they're well aware this is the first of a thousand cuts, and politically it could haunt them because it'll be on their voting record forever. >> you voted to axe the winter

fuel. >> now you can see the leaflets. >> now you can see the leaflets. >> now you can see the leaflets. >> now there'll be a leaflet through the door box. everyone in the constituency, it's like tuition fees, isn't it? >> the liberals didn't recover from that. >> yeah. what basically is the thinking behind this was? it was a short, quick thing to do. it was it was it was clean simple. get it done in july and people and it wouldn't become a political round. the political row is obviously become massive behind this. >> it's become early on in our in our first term and people forget about it by the general election. they won't because for some people this can be make a fundamental difference to their life. >> but they're playing favourites, martin. because what they're doing, the israel arms thing that was all about playing to their muslim client client base, that was nothing to do with thinking about what's good for the jews, what's good for britain's relations. we rely on israel. 10% of nhs medicines are from israel. we rely on intelligence, vital intelligence about terrorists from israel. and then when we see the plain class war with the private schools, thousands of children are going to be, you know, out of school. >> i mean, there is a political. yeah, because 63 is now the age at which you're more likely to vote tory than labour. so

obviously do the maths and work it out. so i mean there's a, there's a cruel political calculation. >> this isn't just about who directly votes. it's the message it sends about keir starmer and the labour party. it looks authoritarian. it looks two faced. and people will remember that. the important thing about parliament now, everybody's majorities slashed . this is a majorities slashed. this is a big majority the government has. but it's a very shallow one. and this will be the thing that means a lot of those mps will be one termers okay, first big test for keir starmer on tuesday. >> thank you so much alison, sean and of course matthew. excellent show now still to come. it was only yesterday that keir starmer came out swinging, defending his controversial decision to cut the winter fuel payments. >> no prime minister wants to do what we have to do in relation to the winter fuel allowance, but as we just said, less than 24 hours later and he's caved to the pressure and granted mps a vote on that controversial policy, he might win that vote as the prime minister lost the country with his crusade against pensioners, while reform lee anderson will have his say when he joins me in just a few minutes time. >> i'm sure he will not pull his

punches. but up next, shocking new figures have revealed a steep surge in youth crime over the past two years. but after the past two years. but after the us authorities announced that a 14 year old boy will be tried as an adult following a fatal school shooting, should we follow suit and lower the age of criminal responsibility in uk, it's criminal responsibility in uk, wsfime criminal responsibility in uk, it's time to treat the kids like adults going head to head on that , or the adults going head to head on that, or the former met detective chief inspector mike neville and the former labour party adviser matthew torbett. and that's

next. welcome back. this is patrick christys tonight with me martin daubney only on gb news. now it's daubney only on gb news. now wsfime daubney only on gb news. now it's time now for our head to head. it's time now for our head to head . okay, let's get stuck in head. okay, let's get stuck in because worrying new statistics have revealed a steep increase in the number of kids committing crimes since the beginning of the pandemic, with over 55,000 under 18 arrested in the last year alone. now, the latest data from the youth justice board shows that the number of children arrested for all offences is up 16% since 2020. but the biggest rises came in arrests for robbery and crimes like assault and even murder. now it comes after the us authorities announced yesterday that the 14 year old boy, charged with murder following a fatal school shooting. well, he'll be tried as an adult. so tonight i'm asking the big

question . should we, in britain, question. should we, in britain, lower the age of criminal responsibility to tackle the surge in youth crime ? now, let surge in youth crime? now, let me know your thoughts by heading to gbnews.com/yoursay. or of course, you can tweet me @gbnews. and while you're there, why not vote in our poll and i'll bring you those results in just a few short moments. time okay, let's get to the game. because going head to head now on this or the former metropolitan police detective chief inspector mike neville and the former labour adviser , the former labour adviser, matthew torbett's. gentlemen, welcome to the show. mike neville, let's start with you. so is it a case of don't do that. if you do the crime, do the time. should we start treating the under 18 seconds like adults and banging them up for these crimes? well, the criminal age of responsibility in this country is ten, and that's comparable with places like australia and new zealand . like australia and new zealand. >> in the states, it's something like six. and but you're always going to get very some very wicked children as we saw with the jamie bulger case. and there's a sentence is going to take place this month of 212 year olds who committed a

vicious murder with knives in wolverhampton and in scotland. it's just been ruled last month that the officers were right to taser 11 year old, who had a massive kitchen knife. so we're always going to get these bad children and what you do with them like the bulger's. so what them like the bulger's. so what the other thing is with the left is that they constantly tell us that the people should the age should be raised and raised. and so you have people like david lammy as far back as 2019, saying that 20 year olds should appear at the youth court, but these are the same people who tell us that 16 year olds are capable of selecting the government. so which one is it? and my view is that we shouldn't have any arbitrary limits . we have any arbitrary limits. we should have things like for murder, you have to the person has to die within a year and a day because science as it was, you know, now you can keep people alive for a long, long time. so what i would suggest is science has progressed and

psychologists and whatever may be able to tell us that a 7 or 8 year old well knew that, you know , stabbing people, shooting know, stabbing people, shooting people was a really wicked and evil thing. now, i think with youngsters, of course, you know, i've been involved in youth work for many, many years, as well as my police career . youngsters my police career. youngsters deserve the best chance. some youngsters have a really bad start in life. however there must be a. the state must be able to imprison those who commit the most wicked and heinous acts , and the public heinous acts, and the public need to be safe from them. so that would be my stance on this matter. okay matthew torbett, what's your take on that? >> i think, you know, there was a there was a few different cases listed there, and the reason why we were able to reel them off is because largely people that are so young and doing these sort of acts are anomalies, and they're in many cases, the most extreme cases in society. and i fear that through discussions like this and positions like the other guests that we almost plastered them as

if they're the norm. i think the other thing is every generation sort of pretends that things like gang crime and youth violence are a new thing, when actually or unprecedented, when in fact, we've had sort of youth, youth violence and gangs for 150 to 200 years, if not longer. and the reason being the social indicators that cause this sort of stuff are still as prevalent today as they were 200 years ago. and they'll be poverty, domestic abuse, lack of education, including things like expulsion of expulsion from school, 50% of young men in prison today were expelled at school, so that is an issue where they've already potentially been failed by society. you've also got people that have been through the care system. you've almost got close to 50% of young males in the prison system have been through the care system. and there's an argument that could be made, again, that these people have been failed by society. i think the other thing is, i don't think we can always afford to be just constantly locking people up the most heinous crimes. i agree, i think i reserve, you

know, separate judgement for people that do things like rape and murder and other things. i think when it comes to almost crimes of poverty or similar, such things. and we saw it with, you know, the riots in 2011, we've seen it with the riots more recently. we're locking people up for things that i wouldn't really lock people up for 50 grand a year to put prisoners away. and 500 is it £100,000 per prisoner to build a prison? and i see on the way in, in the telegraph , just before i in the telegraph, just before i get here, we're looking at shipping people off to estonia because we have no places. it's rather than trying to look at the, the, the causes of crime and trying to find the cure to that. we're just looking at shipping people off elsewhere. it's ridiculous, utterly ridiculous. at the moment. >> what you're talking about here, matthew though, is going way back in time, trying to fix families, trying to fix schools. that takes a long, long time. what about a deterrent? isn't that the point, mike neville? and isn't part of the cover that kids have now? they know they can't get nicked until they're 18. they know they have

anonymity, they know the system and they play the system, and they play the game and the system protects them. kids are getting bigger, quicker. they're maturing faster. they have a lot of societal impact, attitudes that perhaps don't agree with their own culture. why things have changed as a consequence. mike neville, do we need to change the law? >> well, i don't think the law should be. >> it is already ten, but what i would say is it's all right. we've heard 60 years of this that the people are victims of society, and all that's happened over the last 60 years, we've had the same sort of people telling us that the people who commit these wicked crimes are victims of society and being expelled from school is the teachers fault. what if the kid was so violent that the teacher couldn't cope with them? and we've heard all this whining, and when i used to be a beat officer, i used to see the old people who lived in fear of these gangs of youths and no one really cares about the people who have to put up with the misery that these people cause. and at some point, there has to

be the sanction that if you carry on doing this, you're going to jail. so on your 10th conviction or whatever, because you've been convicted ten times, of course you've done 100 crimes already. something must be done . already. something must be done. so yes, we help people along the way , but i think the viewers way, but i think the viewers will take my view that we are sick and tired of being told that people who constantly break the law have got a pack of excuse cards, and it's all our fault that they're causing misery, and at some point they've got to be dealt with and locked up. because having dealt with criminals and criminals who gave me information, you can have good chats with them. and the only thing that criminals fear is being put in prison. all these community sentences , they these community sentences, they laugh at them. and we've been told, as i say, 60 years of left wing nonsense starting with roy jenkins, has led us to a time where murder used to be front page news. now you've got to kill about six people before you go on the front page. that's where it's all 150 years ago, 50

years ago, there was not the level of crime that we see today, the level of disrespect in society. and we've got to do something different, rather than just saying these people are victims of society. matthew torbay, you heard it there. >> it's all about left wing nonsense. >> yeah. well, that's you know, it's amazing that mike can speak with such confidence when what he is saying is utter nonsense himself. and i'll tell you why this is. he wants to tell me that people don't care. and we laugh at this sort of stuff. he might have skin in the game as a police officer. well, the thing is, mike, i went through a community sentencing programme and i believe i'm one of the proof's in the pudding. when you actually take a chance on people. i was homeless as a teenager right through family breakdown. these society's ills that you say don't exist or that is left wing nonsense , right? is left wing nonsense, right? i was then groomed into a gang on the street, and what i did, i got sentenced to 12 months in prison. it was suspended for 12 months and therefore was was put into a community sentencing programme where i did 180 community hours. the deterrence

is the fact that i had a criminal record for the next decade, struggled to find work, and if i wasn't given an opportunity by my friend's parents who took me in and guided me along a better path, the criminal record itself may as well be a death penalty , as well be a death penalty, because the sooner the sooner you arrest people and put them away for things that could have been dealt with before, all that, they're then more than likely going to reoffend next time, because what's the point ? time, because what's the point? you come out of prison and you're a bum. no one respects you. you can't find work. you can lie and say you haven't got a criminal record. it gets found out and your dbs, and then they don't employ you anyway and they suck you off. you've got no money, nowhere to live. your kids are taken off. you whereas actually, if you're inside, it's much easier because you might be somebody in there and you get three, three meals a week. you're looking at it through the wrong end of the telescope. and the more you talk about this being left wing nonsense and not taking personal stories into into consideration and all all people are bad and whatever else that will never solve this

situation. your your logic is that of a dinosaur, and i can only hope the met and others move forward from it. >> it's gentlemen, gentlemen, a passionate and fair exchange. but we have to leave it there. thank you very much. mike neville, of course, and matthew talbot. excellent stuff. thank you. now, who do you agree with? well, the question, should we lower the age of criminal responsibility? mary on x says this. yes. for very serious crimes. and mick also on x adds this without a doubt. they need naming and shaming to ali. also on x says no kids deserve a second chance and naming them will rob them of that chance. agreeing there with matthew talbot and your verdict is now in, 90% of you agreed that we should lower the age of criminal responsibility, while 10% of you say that we shouldn't. so that's a conclusive win there for people who think we should change the system. thank you very much for your input. now, coming up in just a few short minutes. do you remember this lot? well, they're back and with a vengeance because gb news can

exclusively reveal that youth demand are planning more action in the wake of david lammy's decision to ban some arms exports to israel. so have the government just hand a victory to the pro—palestine brigade? i'll be joined by the chairman of the national jewish assembly, gary mond, very soon. but first, the previous government's rwanda deal just wasn't good enough for sir keir starmer. >> i have long said before the election that i thought the rwanda scheme was a gimmick, which is why we stood it down immediately. >> well, guess what? it turns out now that the german government is interested in rwanda style deal and the hotels that were earmarked for the uk's now axed deal and the ones that we paid for are ready and waiting for them. is this yet more proof that the rwanda plan was britain's only real hope of stopping small boats? while uk lee anderson will

welcome back. this is patrick christys tonight with me martin daubney only on gb news now, after his plan to cut winter fuel payments sparked widespread outrage, the prime minister has today caved in and announced that mps will get a binding vote on the controversial policy next tuesday. keir starmer robustly defended the policy yesterday in the face of strong criticism from the opposite benches. >> we've had to take tough decisions to stabilise the economy and repair the damage,

including targeting winter fuel payments whilst protecting pensioners. 800,000 pensioners are not taking up pension credit. we intend to turn that around. we're going to align housing benefit and pension credit, something the previous government deferred year after year after year. and because of our commitment to the triple lock, pensions are projected to increase by over £1,000 in the next five years. >> so that vote is on tuesday. now, they didn't want that vote at all because as i was saying earlier with my panel with allison pearson, with shaun bailey, lord bailey , that vote bailey, lord bailey, that vote will be logged and the voting record will be used, i believe, against every member of parliament who votes against this bill. if they vote that pension down, i suspect a leaflet will be going through the door of everybody in that constituency, and i'm joined now by somebody who'll have a choice word to say about this, no doubt. and that's reform uk's lee anderson. lee. labour would like to win this vote on the next tuesday because their

majority, but in the process, will they lose the country? >> well, they've got a huge majority, martin, as you as you well know and they will win the vote. but this is a test of the political and moral backbone of those labour backbenchers, many of them new mps. >> by the way, martin has bleated on for months and months and months about poverty, about pensioner poverty, about energy poverty, always demanded that the government, the previous government gave more money to help them out, pay their energy bills when we were going through this crisis and look what's happened just a few weeks after this new government, they have attacked our pensioners, 10 million pensioners losing this winter fuel allowance. >> yes, we all know this. for some people that shouldn't get the allowance, but that's up to them. that's a, that's a moral decision they must make when they receive that payment. i know many, many people who don't need that payment actually give it away to charities. so yeah, this is a real test. and picture this, martin. this week we've had mad miliband, as i call him.

he's the most dangerous man in britain at the moment. he's been bleeding on about gb news. that's 8.5 billion foreign climate aid, another £11 billion. there's £20 billion straight away. this man is spaffing away. this by the way, martin, is taxpayers money. and you've got pensioners in my neck of the woods in ashfield scraping through on about 15 grand a year. they're going to have this winter fuel allowance ruthlessly stolen off them, whilst train drivers on 70 grand a year have just been given a ten grand a year pay rise. but absolutely. >> but lee, you could argue that the biscuit tin is empty with £2.7 trillion in debt, the country is on its knees. we've got to make some kind of tough cuts. what would reform cut back? >> well, i'll tell you what it's all about . >> well, i'll tell you what it's all about. it's all about. >> well, i'll tell you what it's all about . it's all about. these all about. it's all about. these are political decisions, you know? i mean, look here, martin, £11.6 billion and the foreign climate aid budget. we're spending money on that 8.5 billion. as i said before, on this gb energy, you know, these

these inflation busting public sector pay rises. this is a choice between these things. martin and our pensioners. and unfortunately they've put our pensioners to the bottom of the pile. >> alright. well let's move in on lee because it wasn't good enough for sir keir starmer's government. but today germany's migration commissioner has proposed sending migrants to rwanda to deal with the migrants crossing their country's eastern border. we've made it even easier for them with the hotels and the hostels all prepared and paid for already there. lee anderson, britain's now axed the rwanda deal and they're all just sitting empty. lee, is this yet more proof that the rwanda returns deal was the only hope that we ever had of stopping the small boats? >> i'll tell you what, martin. i wish to send this labour government to rwanda. i'd pay for the flights. i'd have a whip round in ashfield tomorrow. they're getting really on my nerves. but seriously , you know, nerves. but seriously, you know, germany need to get this right because i actually think the rwanda plan could have worked if the conservative government at the conservative government at

the time would have had the political backbone and will to get that first flight off and ignore everybody else. you know, we had a we had a plane on the tarmac ready to go. it should have gone now if germany learned the lessons from that and get a flight up straight away and stick two fingers up to the echr and it can work. >> now, do you think they just axed it because it was a conservative idea? they didn't actually look at the details. was it viable? they just didn't like it because it was a tory idea and now they're trying to do a deal. lee with the germans to sort out illegal immigration and the germans have gone straight for the deal that they knocked back. >> look, look, they're absolutely clueless. the labour party on this. they've got no political will to sort this out. martin, you know that. and i know that they don't see illegal migration as a problem. they do not live in the real world. and isn't it funny now, after they've scrapped the rwanda plan, the germans are actually going to use it. it's incredible . going to use it. it's incredible. i mean, these people, these people smugglers, martin, these gangs, they're not they're not highly intelligent people . highly intelligent people. that's, you know, that's but they're just they're just thugs.

they're hooligans. they're they're they're, you know , they're they're, you know, they're they're, you know, they're horrible people that's making millions and millions of pounds and they're outwitting our government. it's unbelievable. >> all right. lee, well, it sounds like you agree with james cleverly. he wants to bring rwanda back. what would the reform party do about stopping this mess? >> well, you know what we'll do, martin. and i said it from day one. even when i was in the conservative party, there's nothing stopping us from picking these migrants up in the channel when we pick them up in the boats and taking them straight back to france. we did it about three weeks ago. we took about 50 or 60 back to france. it takes courage, martin. it takes political will. but these we really, you know, these these are the left that bang on about oh, we can't do this. we'll have an international incident with france. they need to grow a backbone. you know what some of these people that that's coming over on these boats. martin, you've reported on gb news many times. they are committing horrific crimes and our country should come first. >> yeah. well it's time for some tough love now. finally you led a really moving debate about baby loss in the house of commons yesterday. let's take a

little look at that. it was wonderful. >> i had a lady whom i greatly admired. her name was agnes thomas. agnes was a. she was dead and gone now, but she was four foot nothing. that's just the size of her. she was wasn't much over, but she was definitely a whirlwind. however, underneath all that, the undeniable strength was also a lady that, in her 80s, came to the office to see if she could find out where her stillborn son. >> was. dundrum gentleman, give way . way. >> lee. it was a really, really moving debate. what prompted you to speak out about that, mate? >> yeah, it was a difficult debate, martin. i spoke for about 15, 20 minutes on the subject. i've had quite a few recently. martin families come to see me at my surgery. who's lost babies at the local hospital. and this was either, you know , during pregnancy, you know, during pregnancy, dunng you know, during pregnancy, during birth or postnatal. and i felt i had to be a voice for these people, you know, that some of them's got complaints from their local hospital, but,

you know, 1 in 5 baby deaths is preventable. and i thought, you know, i've got to do right by these people. i brought them down to parliament yesterday. a couple of the families and had this debate. and yeah, it was sad. it was moving, but it was the right thing to do. i think martin, because it touches every family in this country and it is something that lives with families forever. so hopefully the government will take note and move moving forward. we can we can get, you know, better , we can get, you know, better, better systems in place at these at these local hospitals to make sure that some of these deaths are preventable. >> and, lee, i've got to say, you know, i've been talking for years trying to get men to speak out about their mental health and get these feelings out and cause a lot of harm. but it's so nice to see blokes there speaking out about this. and i believe nigel farage also chipped in. he said he struggles to talk about this topic in the past. >> he did? yeah. and nigel spoke. he spoke very passionately about his about his niece who he's very close to, who had a stillborn child. and like i say, martin, this, this thing, this baby loss, it affects every single family in the uk. we need to talk about it

more. and i think, i mean, i got educated in that debate yesterday. there's lots of things i actually learned because there was other mps. there was female mps that had miscarriages, lost children and it was so sad. but it needed saying, i've got to say, anderson, i watched that debate. >> it was really, really emotional. my child. no. god bless. he made it. he had a really tough birth. it brought back a lot of old memories. but good on you mate, for speaking out about a tough topic. that is a hard man with a soft centre. lee anderson, thank you very, very much for joining lee anderson, thank you very, very much forjoining us. always very much for joining us. always an absolute delight. now coming up, an afghan asylum seeker with a criminal record was allowed into the uk after he convinced officials that he was a 14 year old boy. well, he wasn't. he was 19 and he then went on to murder an aspiring marine. and now the home office has been spared from an inquest into this scandal. he's not time that officials were held accountable for their disastrous decisions. i'll tackle that topic at 10:00. but next, remember, this lot . well, next, remember, this lot. well, they're back, and gb news can

exclusively reveal that the pro—palestine brigade have declared victory after david lammy announced the suspension of simon mayall licenses to israel. now the planning even more disruption. so has the government just handed power to the pro gaza that's what be asking. the chairman of the national

next. welcome back to patrick christys. tonight with me , christys. tonight with me, martin daubney. now, gb news can exclusively reveal that pro—palestine and eco demonstrators have declared victory over the foreign secretary, david lammy , after he secretary, david lammy, after he suspended 30 arms export licenses to israel. youth demand, an organisation formed of pro—palestine demonstrators, and also just stop oil activists, have been responsible for stunts like this . i believe for stunts like this. i believe that we will win.

>> i believe that we will win. i believe that we will win. >> someone shower them with some soapy water sharpish. well, we can now reveal that they're plotting to carry out yet more protest actions this year to force sir keir starmer and labour to cut all exports. a youth demand source added this this is just the start. we are exploiting the weaknesses within laboun exploiting the weaknesses within labour. they have lost seats and support due to other candidates being pro—palestine. we will keep going and going and we will get what we want. well, it's an astonishing state of affairs and i'm joined now by the chairman of the national jewish assembly, gary mond. gary has the government caved in to these protesters? >> yes. it certainly has. and my fear is it's going to cave in a lot more in the months and years ahead. what labour is looking at is its left wing. it's worried that it's going to lose some of its members of parliament to jeremy corbyn's new group, and it doesn't want to do that. and what is happening is that it's taken the simple calculations.

look at the calculation that the votes behind the pro gaza movement are far greater than the jewish votes, who may take an opposite side. the government is doing a simple electoral calculation and it is betraying the jewish community as a result. >> now, these these people, they would like to claim that they making this happen and they are saying, we made this happen. let's be clear, it did not become because of the bombing of schools, of hospitals or refugee camps . it was the labour party's camps. it was the labour party's fear of his increasing resistance and making them. we made them do a u—turn. is it really possible that students, these, these unwashed types are literally influencing government policy? >> you have to look a little bit deeper than that. who are the students representing? what sort of political viewpoint are they representing? they're representing? they're representing the far left in this country. and they've also got the support of the islamists. the fundamentalist islamists. the fundamentalist islamists. and it's a big constituency. they're just the foot soldiers , really. and i foot soldiers, really. and i fear that the statement that

you've read out is largely true. >> how many people within the labour party do you think actually agree with the pro—corbyn pro gaza independence ? pro—corbyn pro gaza independence? they're still within the party, but there are a lot of the same old names that seem to actually take the position of this lot. >> i'm not a member of the labour party, but but i have been watching and i think it's a substantial number. i couldn't tell you how many, but it's what happens to them. >> do they stay within the tent causing trouble, or do you think they might get booted out? >> this is a tactic really. the question is that can they, over the course of the next 2 or 3 years, possibly even remove keir starmer as prime minister? there's an outside chance they might be able to do that. and if they were to leave, they would go off to jeremy corbyn's new group and do very well at elections. i think the general theme actually, on the bigger political side is the conservatives are going to lose big votes , big time to reform uk big votes, big time to reform uk and labour are going to lose votes big time to the corbyn group. and this is a tendency we're seeing across europe. funnily enough, if you look what's happening in germany and france, that the centre is

collapsing because the centre is not as failed to deliver for its populations. >> now, gary. sir keir starmer, he said that this was a legal decision . it was a decision that decision. it was a decision that was taken that the pulling of the 30 contracts out was a legal choice . it wasn't a political choice. it wasn't a political choice, it wasn't a positional choice. do you believe that? >> no. and the reason i don't believe that is there are so many hypocritical cases around the world of the british government and indeed other governments as well, supporting saudi arabia, turkey, turkey and their massacre of the kurds for example, and other and other situations which are far more clear cut. and they haven't taken action. this is a political decision. they're using the law as a smokescreen. >> gary, what about the timing of this? there's been a huge criticism. it was announced the day after six hostages were brutally murdered by hamas . is brutally murdered by hamas. is the timing coincidental or just clumsy? >> you could say it's clumsy, but i don't really care about the timing. i care about what happened to the hostages. were murdered in cold blood. and i think that the action of trying

to restrict arms sales to israel shouldn't happen at any time. it's not a question of this particular time. although of course, we've had a horrible situation in israel which the whole of israel is grieving about. and many jewish communities around the world are very, very upset with what's been happening. >> okay, gary, let's just keep going for a moment. if we could. how is the mood in the british jewish community? these sort of things seem to be adding to the feeling that they're increasingly unwelcome. >> i think the jewish community is very nervous. there are some people who actually would go so far as to say they feel terrified, and we have got another one of these big so—called pro—palestinian, but they're really jew hating marches taking place on saturday. >> there are there never ends. gary hammond, thank you very much for joining gary hammond, thank you very much forjoining us in the much for joining us in the studio. and always, always a delight to have your company. thank you very much. thank you. now coming up next, the home office has avoided an inquest into how a violent afghan asylum seeker who murdered an aspiring royal marine was ever let into the uk in the first place. he lied. he was nine. he was 14. he

was 19. he had a criminal record. he'd already killed twice. yet he was allowed to stay here. is it time we started holding officials accountable for their disastrous decisions? i'll give you my take. at 10:00. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers, sponsors of weather on gb news. >> hello again. welcome to the latest update from the met office for gb news. it's been a miserable end to the day for the south and southwest , and we'll south and southwest, and we'll see further spells of heavy rain dunng see further spells of heavy rain during the next 24 to 48 hours. around this area of low pressure that's sitting over the continent. that's pushing some weather fronts up into the south, but they are tending to stall. having said that, overnight, the heaviest of the rain will tend to fizzle away for a time. still some heavy showers around towards the south—east. wales for a time, but otherwise a lot of cloud across the uk, especially in the south and the east. that low

cloud will lead to a misty start in places on friday morning, and a mild start 15 to 17 celsius. a muqqy a mild start 15 to 17 celsius. a muggy night to come for many of us, but it's not going to be cloudy everywhere, certainly towards west and scotland. we'll see blue skies first thing on friday. plenty of sunshine out there and already a warm start to the day. it's going to get warmer as the day progresses. northern ireland seeing some decent sunshine, particularly towards the west. likewise for southwest scotland, cumbria , southwest scotland, cumbria, lancashire, north wales these are the areas where we didn't see much summery weather during the summer , but on friday and the summer, but on friday and saturday we'll see plenty of warm sunshine instead. the midlands, east anglia, some sunshine for a time, but across south wales into the south of england, mostly around the m4 corridor and southwards, they'll be thick cloud and they'll be heavy outbreaks of rain on and off through the day. increasingly focused across parts of somerset, devon and cornwall. that could cause some issues. localised flooding, transport disruption, that sort of thing. but elsewhere we've

got the sunshine 25 to 27 celsius even as far north as northwest scotland. now saturday starts off similarly, but as we go through the day there'll be less rain. i think across southern parts. still some showery outbreaks around, but otherwise a few are dry. a few dner otherwise a few are dry. a few drier interludes to be had as well. a lot of cloud elsewhere, increasingly so through the weekend and becoming a little cooler. >> looks like things are heating up. boxt boilers sponsors of weather on

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to know about my sexuality. well, i'm going to keep that very private, ethnicity. there's my answer. it's a big no . my answer. it's a big no. >> the bbc are cutting hundreds of jobs, but ploughing £80 million into yet another diversity drive. have they got their priorities completely wrong? >> i have long said before the election that i thought the rwanda scheme was a gimmick, which is why we stood it down immediately. >> sir keir starmer scrapped the rwanda plan on day one, but now the german government wants to fill the very same facilities with their own illegal immigrants. you couldn't make it up. >> faccenda wegovy. and of course ozempic. just some of the weight loss drugs making recent headunes weight loss drugs making recent headlines used to suppress appetite if taken correctly, these drugs can help those who needit these drugs can help those who need it to lose large amounts of body fat . body fat. >> well, weight loss drugs are all the rage, but should we all be taking them now? my panel tonight. it's the telegraph

superstar columnist allison pearson and tory peer lord bailey and ex—labour adviser matthew laza. and apparently now dancing is working class. matthew laza. and apparently now dancing is working class . might dancing is working class. might make sense. >> well, you know. yes, i'm working class. i like a dance. i like dance music. >> working class or working class? get ready, britain. here we go . we go. coming next, i'll ask. is it time? the home office are held accountable for migrants who kill? but first, as your headunes kill? but first, as your headlines with sophia wenzler. >> martin. thank you. good evening. i'm sophia wenzler with your headlines at 10:00. the home office has confirmed it will not use raf scampton to house asylum seekers. labour has scrapped the former conservative

government's plans to house asylum seekers at the former raf base in lincolnshire. home office minister dame angela eagle said the plan, which has already cost £60 million, fails to deliver value for for money the taxpayer. we've been speaking with local people in scampton to hear their reaction to the news. absolutely ecstatic. >> i'm over the moon. i don't think it's quite properly sunk in yet, and i'm sure i'll do a bit of a happy dance later, but yeah, i couldn't be happier. it's been a long time coming. >> yes. so this is what we've been working really hard for 18 months. is to secure the future of the site. and today we've learned that the site will no longer be part of the asylum programme, and it will be disposed of and therefore we can use our regeneration plans and proposals to move forward. brilliant >> i can't believe it. it's great news. best news i've heard for a long time. >> meanwhile, it's being reported that germany is considering their own rwanda

migrant scheme using uk facilities. germany's special representative for migration agreements, joachim stamp , said agreements, joachim stamp, said the eu could use facilities set up the eu could use facilities set ”p by the eu could use facilities set up by the last uk government. labour cancelled the rwanda scheme, which was intended to deter migrants planning to cross the english channel in small boats when they entered office. downing street said it would not comment on the discussions between two foreign governments . between two foreign governments. back in the uk, detectives investigating the murder of a top chef attack near notting hill carnival have released images of 16 potential witnesses. museum nato, from dubal witnesses. museum nato, from dubai, was found unconscious with a head injury in queensway in london and sadly died four days later. one man has been charged but detectives are still piecing together the 41 year old's movements from earlier that day. the met's specialist crime commander is urging anyone who recognises the people in the images to come forward. detectives believe these individuals may have vital information to aid the

investigation. police have released the first picture of the teenager suspected of shooting dead four people in the us state of georgia. 14 year old described as described by police as pure evil , described as described by police as pure evil, killed two students and two teachers at his high school. colt grey also injured nine others, with a semi—automatic rifle before surrendering to police, and donald trump has a job for billionaire supporter elon musk. if he wins the november 5th election. the republican candidate laid out his economic vision for the country today , vision for the country today, including the creation of a government efficiency commission that he said elon musk has agreed to lead if the former president is elected. musk responded on his social media platform x, saying, i look forward to serving america if the opportunity arises . those the opportunity arises. those are the latest gb news headlines for now, i'm sophia wenzler more in an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your

smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gb news. >> .com. forward slash alerts . >> .com. forward slash alerts. >> .com. forward slash alerts. >> thank you sophia. now the incredible story you're about to hear by equal measures is heartbreaking and infuriating and the embodiment of everything thatis and the embodiment of everything that is wrong with britain's broken asylum system. in march 2022, afghan asylum seeker lawangan abdul rahman zahawi murdered tom roberts, 21, an aspiring marine, after plunging aspiring marine, after plunging a knife twice into his chest over a squabble over an e—scooter in bournemouth. now that's bad enough, but abdul rahim zahawi , who was jailed rahim zahawi, who was jailed last year for 29 years, was a wanted killer who should never even have been in britain in the first place. he entered the uk illegally on boxing day 2019, having stowed away in a vehicle.

he was 19 but he lied to border force that he was 40 and he also lied. he was fleeing the taliban. no checks were ever carried out. his fingerprints were taken. and yet, astonishingly , they were not astonishingly, they were not shared with interpol until after roberts's death. now, if that had happened, it would have revealed that abdul rahim seesahai was a convicted drug dealer who had also murdered two other asylum seekers in serbia in 2018. he mowed them down with an ak 47. now, checks would have proved the previous claim for asylum in norway had also been rejected, as abdul rahim zahir's trial in 2022, it emerged his foster carer, who has reported him to social services for carrying knives. she hid all the knives in the house. he was also expelled from a school in bournemouth for carrying a knife inside the school. it emerged the home office knew he was a terror threat. he'd been flagged to prevent, in 2021, a full year

before he killed tom. now roberts family, his mum dolores wallace roberts and stepdad peter wallace had previously accused border force and home office of systemic failures. they pinned their hopes on a full inquiry. but yesterday rachael griffin, the senior coroner for dorset , ruled that coroner for dorset, ruled that there was no need for a full inquest into the circumstances surrounding roberts tragic and untimely death. miss griffin acknowledged there were individual errors, but said they do not amount to a systemic failure. roberts mother said this the home office don't want to engage with us. everything is wrong in this country and it will continue to happen again . will continue to happen again. peter wallace roberts's heartbroken stepfather, said this. there were so many warning signs that he should not have beenin signs that he should not have been in this country here, and yet the home office did nothing at all about it. so the simple

question tonight is this is it time somebody in the home office was held accountable for the tragic loss of tom roberts? okay. let's get the thoughts now of my panel. and i'm joined by the daily telegraph superstar columnist allison pearson. lord bailey, the conservative peer. and also by matthew laza former labour adviser. welcome back to the show. i found that incredibly difficult to read out. i read that 5 or 6 times a day just to .try and stop myself weeping. in fact, even now, it's incredibly difficult to think about stories like that. these people should never have been in britain. he lied and cheated his way into britain . he was way into britain. he was multiple times picked up by the authorities . they simply failed authorities. they simply failed to do their jobs. and now his to do theirjobs. and now his mother and his stepfather can't even get a full inquiry panel. alison, let's start with you. this is everything that's wrong with our asylum system. what on earth should happen ? earth should happen? >> it's absolutely rotten, martin, isn't it? i mean , as you

martin, isn't it? i mean, as you say, you cannot believe it. there were so many opportunities to pick him up, but each time he's given the benefit of the doubt, it's a fact that thousands of asylum seekers have come to the uk and have claimed to be a child because it gives them an easier ride and then, you know, then years later, as with this guy, he was 19, he was he was put into a secondary school in bournemouth . this was school in bournemouth. this was a guy who would kill two people with a with a kalashnikov. it's surreal. it's like some mad sacha baron cohen comedy, except it's ended in the tragedy of the of the death of this wonderful young man. tom roberts . another young man. tom roberts. another example. he went to a dentist this scumbag and the dentist said, this isn't a child. and they informed the authorities and the authorities said, yes, well, we'll have a look into that. but first we'll do a mental health assessment. this is the you know, this is the country we live in. and it's

absolutely terrible. and he is. we've also had the abdul ezedi case in january. another afghan asylum seeker who threw acid at asylum seeker who threw acid at a woman and a child, 1 in 5. martin, 1 in 5 of the people who come across on the small boats come across on the small boats come from afghanistan. that country is treating women and girls like livestock and we are letting those people into our country. germany is thinking of banning anybody coming into germany from afghanistan and iraq, and i think we should do that because these people do not abide by civilisational values that we share here. >> lord bailey, the final heartbreak in this story is the mother dolores and father peter, just pinning their hopes on a furlough inquiry to try and make sense of this, and more to the point, to try and make sure something like this can never, ever happen again. that's been denied to them. the reasons i went through in the monologue there. but it doesn't feel right, does it? it doesn't feel right. there can be so many

mistakes, so many opportunities missed. the fingerprints that were never given to interpol would have proven this guy was wanted for murder on the continent. how on earth can somebody get fingerprinted? and that not get passed on? do you think it is time in this case, orindeed think it is time in this case, or indeed any like this for proper , full, transparent proper, full, transparent inquiries and for somebody to be held accountable? grenfell they're saying we need somebody, an individual, they're saying we need somebody, an individual , to be held an individual, to be held responsible for that killing for manslaughter. is it time to do the same with the home office? >> i believe that the home office should have welcomed an inquiry because they need to know why this happened . and the know why this happened. and the idea that there wasn't a systematic breakdown is ridiculous. there was umpteen different times where a small intervention could have saved the life of this very fantastic man, tom roberts. he wanted to become a marine . that's a really become a marine. that's a really big thing. you want to serve this country. but yet he's been murdered . and i'll tell you why murdered. and i'll tell you why this is important. it's important about trust. if we let these things continue to happen, these things continue to happen, the british public will no longer trust foreigners. people come to the country. not all

foreigners will come in. very far from it are criminals. that's why we have to get on top of things like this. i sat in a debate in the house of lords and heard people talking about how do we define if a person is a child or an adult when they come across and claim asylum? and that whole debate erred on the side of caution. so we have to basically take people at their word. that's how i read that event. i think now the home office need to readjust and say, are we protecting the british public? that is our first duty, our major duty and the current system, as this tragic case points to, would suggest that the safety of the british public is not uppermost in the home office mind. >> matthew. it feels time and time again that when these instances happen, it's like, oh, well, they said they were 14 and well, they said they were 14 and we couldn't give an intrusive test or genetic or dental because of the human rights of the i mean, the dental check isn't actually that intrusive because this guy, this guy was, you know, sprung by, as it were, by by his dentist just doing a, a standard check—up which all of us go for. >> and i don't think any of us finds unnecessarily intrusive. i

have a friend who actually works with a social worker, a senior social worker in a major city who works with young asylum seekers, and one of the things she really worries about is the fact that actually, because of the issue, because the tests aren't done, the older asylum seekers who are in there, and that they're praying and causing problems for the, for the, for the, for the younger ones, the genuine kids, because of course, one of the tragedies here is, is that the two people he killed in serbia were asylum seekers. they weren't local serbians. they were. they were asylum seekers that he that he murdered. so i mean, you know, we have to think about the duty of care to those who we are giving refuge to as well. obviously, a duty of care to all our own citizens. so it just shows how broken the home office is and how if anybody on the left thinks that, you know, we shouldn't be distinguishing between kids and a guy who was a 19 year old double murderer who we put in a school in, in dorset. i mean, it's just extraordinary. and i mean, i can see why legally, the judge was saying, because interpreting the echr, they thought there wasn't a cause for an inquiry. i think

the government needs to look at an inquiry into this. >> we should have our own. >> we should have our own. >> the government should do it. yeah. >> and what's interesting, they say they couldn't decide if he was a child or not. but how did the dentist know? >> that's the way you do it. but they won't. they won't let people have dental tests specifically send them to a dentist in case it's intrusive to their human rights. >> i'm sorry. they need to understand. they need to protect everybody else's human rights. the first and major job of any government is to protect its citizens. this is putting people at risk and it's putting is putting asylum seekers at risk as well, because people will start to reject them if they think they're dangerous. >> so that brings me to the big question. alison pearson is the home office fit for purpose? >> well, certainly not. and something that did happen was they lost one case with one of these people claiming to be a child. and after that, martin, caseworkers were told to give all the applicants the benefit of the doubt. right so it's gone way too far. the other way. and as sean has said, the first consideration should be will this be safe for the british people who live here? it's not. will this be okay for this guy?

and absolutely. and i think that the senior coroner, rachael griffin , who you quoted, it's griffin, who you quoted, it's just rubbish that she says that this there were individual errors but it doesn't amount to a systemic failure. it is a complete systemic failure. i mean, he was referred to the prevent program, which is for terrorism. there are about ten things you could check off. and the idea that there's not going to be a proper inquest or an inquiry is it's an absolute disgrace. and i feel so sorry for tom roberts's parents. >> and i've got to say, it goes to your point about accountability. until somebody is held accountable, these things will continue to happen. the home office is a big, amorphous organisation. it can take an absolute battering, but so it will prevent change. somebody's in a very senior position, needs to grip this problem and be held responsible. and that's the first step in making these things go away. >> i mean, i was disappointed that the new government didn't aboush that the new government didn't abolish the home office. we needed a department for immigration and migration. i'm partly australian. australia has

a new zealand has it. partly australian. australia has a new zealand has it . and it a new zealand has it. and it works because you've got a clear focus. the home office days are numbered. it's now 20 years since john rees was just. >> let's just one final statistic. france asylum seekers 27% grant rate okay. yes uk grant rate 57%. we give we approve double the number of people coming in. and i think there is bias in the home office towards letting these people in. and they are not putting the safety of the british people at the centre of their operations. >> would you agree with that 100%? >> we need? i agree with matthew. actually, we need to break the home office up. we need to have a specific, department about immigration, etc. because it will give them a new focus. they won't have to carry the baggage that has been left behind by the home office. and you may get it's the best chance of getting a change in culture. this government should grasp that nettle, which quite frankly, politically wouldn't be risky at all to suggest we're going to do something different. >> and what hope can we offer to tom's parents in this situation? you've got dolores and peter who

just feel the system is completely and utterly betrayed them and let them down. they've played the rules. they've patiently waited for an outcome of an investigation , an inquiry of an investigation, an inquiry that's been cruelly snatched away. what hope do they have? >> i wish i could say we could offer them some hope. the only hope they have is that someone in our political firmament, in the government takes initiative and leads on this. i feel so bad for them. the loss of their son, their their blue eyed boy who they were living for, snatched away from them in circumstances that were preventable. the government has to step up. >> perhaps we can try and do something about that. yes. let's have a chat afterwards, i think. i think we got to it's got to start on programs like this because these sort of stories simply cannot go on. thank you very much. now, rachel griffin, we have a statement here. the senior coroner for dorset said this. whilst it has to be accepted, there were missed opportunities to undertake some checks, it cannot be said that had these checks been done, the course of events that led to tommy's death would have been any different. it is simply too

speculative and remote to state that there was a causal link between these missed opportunities and tommy's death, and we've just got gasps from my panel here. well coming up, i'll have the very first of tomorrow's newspaper front pages with my panel of experts on standby to give me their expert analysis. on and it wasn't good enough for sir keir starmer. >> i have long said before the election that i thought the rwanda scheme was a gimmick , rwanda scheme was a gimmick, which is why we stood it down immediately. >> but now, of course, it turns out that germany wants to send migrants to rwanda . so was the migrants to rwanda. so was the norway deal our only hope of stopping the small boats? my panel will debate that in just a few minutes time. also coming up, the bbc is set to cut over 100 jobs, but with the corporation also planning to plough another £80 million into a new diversity drive, hasn't the state broadcaster got its priorities completely and utterly wrong? well, former bbc presenter roger bolton doesn't agree and he'll be live

next. welcome back to patrick christys tonight with me. martin daubney standing in for patrick now the next story. the bbc today confirmed plans to cut over 100 jobs as the corporation battles to try and make £500 million of savings by 2026. but the job losses have sparked outrage and left many scratching their heads

after it was also announced on the same day that bbc bosses had found £80 million for a diversity drive. now the money will supposedly help the broadcaster increase its representation targets for ethnicity, disability and socioeconomic diversity from . socioeconomic diversity from. 20% to 25% across all production roles. well, i'm joined now by the former bbc executive and presenter roger bolton. roger, always a delight to have you on the show, so here's one for you. if you're trying to save 100 jobs, how about you don't spend £80 million on diversity ? £80 million on diversity? >> well, yeah, but let's be clear. the bbc is in this financial trouble because the last government and the one before that start decide to squeeze the bbc. so the licence fee is now worth 30. the bbc has 35% less money in real terms than it had ten years ago. right. so that's why the squeeze is happening. so it has to make cuts. at the same time, the bbc

has to acknowledge the fact that it is not has not been really representative of the country . i representative of the country. i mean, let me give you an example. a third of the top managers in the bbc are privately educated, so this isn't just a question of different races. it's also about the white working class as well, and the opportunities people have to actually get into the organisation. the other thing is, of course, when i was in the bbc, there were virtually no women. so you have to have policies to ensure that the people who run the bbc are truly representative of the country to which they're broadcasting. so in principle , diversity is in principle, diversity is a very good thing. >> but roger, the fact of the matter is, if you turn on any bbc programme, it looks like united nations meeting. and as for the white working classes, i mean, i used to work at the bbc a lot. there was never anybody like me, you know, from a coal mining background. you're right. everybody had a plum in their mouth. but let's get back to the point. >> we didn't say that. come on, martin and that's hyperbole. come on.

>> no, no, that's that's what happened. that was my experience. there was no one that was a coal miner's son that worked there. most people i met had been to oxbridge. that was my experience. but look back, back. >> we could mention my old researcher of mine, the robert harris, the writer of spies who came from a nottinghamshire printer, was a nottinghamshire printer, was a nottinghamshire printer and got the organisation. but the principle is anyway, it's got to be representative and it's got to find ways. i mean, you know, over brexit, you and i think probably a lot of your listeners would think the bbc wasn't in touch with large parts of the country. correct. now, one of the reasons i think there's some truth to that. now, one of the reasons is because too many people were operating because nobody voted brexit. >> the works of the bbc probably. >> no no no no no no. what i'm saying is that it wasn't representative of the country as a whole. and if you don't have people from every section of society, you don't realise what's happening outside your immediate experience. so it's got to be more diverse. it's got to have more people who, from a different background, it needs to have more people from the working white, from the working

classes, as opposed to private schools. you know, it's got to do that. but i think it's very dangerous to put the two things together. there's a squeeze on the bbc deliberately organised on the whole by the last government, and then this equal push to make sure it's representative because people like you and a lot of your viewers and listeners will think that bbc doesn't understand us. you can't have both things, you know. >> okay, well, let's look at the diversity targets. and by the way, the total spent now is 323 million because the bbc already spent 243. that's getting on for a quarter of a billion quid, astonishing amount of money to spend on it. let's look at the actual diversity targets. 25% they say they want. well, that doesn't reflect the nation. if you look at the census data, white people still make up 82% of the population. you wouldn't know that if you looked at the average bbc drama, and asian people , 9% black people, 4%, people, 9% black people, 4%, mixed race 3%. why are they going for 25% diversity? that's not representative of the real

world. that's representative of bbc world. >> i don't recognise those figures. i'd need to look at the census , but hold on. ofcom, census, but hold on. ofcom, which is the regulator , came up which is the regulator, came up last year, reported two things about the about the about diversity and people from a non if you like non—white background. it said now that in terms of on screen representation, yes there is slightly more than there should be if you like, if you want it to be actually representative of, of the country as a whole, but behind the screen in terms of people who make the decisions and so on, it's far less the problem is no longer on screen. it's behind the screen and behind the radio. those people who exercise real power . so who exercise real power. so i think you mustn't confuse the two together. as to your other figures, they don't sound right to me, but i haven't got them in front of me, so i can't question you on those. >> well, i have, and that's the census data from 2021. but look, let's look at who did this review. it was by the sir lenny henry centre for media diversity. now the guy doing the

actual review for the bbc is lenny henry. now i think his idea of diversity is probably having more people like him. it's not having more people like me. is that actually diversity, or is it just actually bringing more people in who who look like and think like and act like people like lenny henry? >> well, i don't want to insult you, martin, but frankly, i want more lenny henry's. if he's such a talented man, he can do anything. he can tell jokes, he can write, he can drama or whatever. and remember, you know, when he started off, he was the only black comedian on television. and if there hadn't been policies and, you know, he had come from a very tough background, you know, he got to the top because he was absolutely outstanding. but there must be other lenny henry's who haven't. and we've got to make sure that the best people get to the top. now, it would be entirely wrong if in the end, people were selected only on the basis of their colour or culture or whatever. but you've got to recognise that some people have a dead easy, a dead easy, you know, passage to

the top if they go to oxbridge, if they go to private school, you know, if they live in london, if their parents have worked in the media, you could run through it all. you know, that gives them a tremendous advantage. you have to be concerned about those people for whom it's more difficult, some of whom quite a number of whom will come from, as it were, bame backgrounds, whether that term is any use any more. i'm not sure it covers such a wide amount. so if diversity means trying to make sure that the people who run the bbc and the people who run the bbc and the people on it are representative of the country as a whole, and for it, if it's trying to say there's a real danger that bbc in london was predominantly run by white middle class people, many of whom are disproportionately above private education, that's dangerous. so i don't think i think the cuts to the bbc, one thing that's a government decision, and the bbc just has to find them somewhere, deciding to make the organisation properly representative of the country is something i entirely applaud . something i entirely applaud. i'm sure you wouldn't, martin. wouldn't you? >> roger. a valiant defence of your former employer there. thank you very much for joining

us on the show. >> they fired me twice. they fired me twice. >> i should say fired twice. well they got good taste. thank you very much for joining us well they got good taste. thank you very much forjoining us on you very much for joining us on the show. i've got to stay in here because the bbc spokesperson said this. we have been clear that the significant funding pressures we face means that every division in the bbc needs to make savings and while challenging, we aim to make these savings as far as is possible through voluntary redundancy , and we can confirm redundancy, and we can confirm that we expect to deliver the changes without closing any major services. so there we go. sleep tight. now coming up, tomorrow's newspaper front pages have landed and our expert analysis from my panel very shortly. oh, and why does labour have to make everything about class not make sense? >> well, you know, yes, i'm working class. i like a dance. i like dance music. >> give me strength. all that and much in just a few

welcome back to patrick christys tonight with me martin daubney only on gb news. now it's daubney only on gb news. now wsfime daubney only on gb news. now it's time to bring you tomorrow's news tonight in the most entertaining pay per view on the telly. and the very first front pages have just been delivered for my press pack to go through. and we start with the metro and that features the court case of jeremy kyle, the headune court case of jeremy kyle, the headline kyle, don't blame me. i'm just the host. next, we're moving on to the i and the headune moving on to the i and the headline that caught my eye brexit food rules set for delay to avoid price rises at supermarkets. this is about checks on fruits and vegetables being imported from the eu. or once again set to be delayed because they could push up food pnces because they could push up food prices in the uk. next on to the daily express and they focus on the ongoing scandal around axing the ongoing scandal around axing the winter fuel allowance. the headune the winter fuel allowance. the headline we're not greedy britain's elderly will do a deal on fuel support. so this is the nofion on fuel support. so this is the notion that pensioners are okay for the most well—off to lose

winter fuel payments. but let's keep it for those on the breadline, not just those on benefits. and finally on to the daily telegraph, alison pearson's paper and the headline here prisoners could serve their time in estonia. this is the plan to ease crowded jails, as germany says. it also may use uk rwanda facilities for migrants to get our teeth into there. with my panel, why don't we start on this fascinating story about prisoners serve their time in estonia? matthew laza. >> yeah, well, i've just come back from the baltic states. i was in lithuania this morning, but not estonia. but i mean, this is this is this has been floated a little bit, i think under the tories as well. they've got spare prison capacity in estonia and they're saying that it's available for britain. and at the time when our prisons are, as we know, you know, so overcrowded , this would know, so overcrowded, this would enable the government to do it. now, obviously, people would cry out. one of the big things about rehabilitation is having visits from your family, etc. but of course we have a lot of overseas, you know, people we can't send back to countries

like afghanistan couldn't, couldn't. and therefore they're not being visited by their family on a weekly basis. could they go to estonia with obviously proper? i'm sure the prisons in estonia are of a good quality. i think, you know, and norway sends people there, so they're not going to be we're not talking about dodgy conditions but just capacity. allison pearson we have we have a lefty saying, let's deport foreign criminals, even if they're going to get cancer. astonishing. >> what do you reckon to this? >> what do you reckon to this? >> we're very politely not mentioning prince william's terrible beard. aren't we? i noficed terrible beard. aren't we? i noticed that i quite like it. >> this is somebody who didn't manage to shave today because my flight was late. >> you see that? that beard on the front page of the telegraph? i think it's rather nice. i think it's quite it's quite, quite nice face for us. >> you go back to the series. >> you go back to the series. >> yes. i think as matthew said, we have over 10,000 foreign prisoners in british jails already. so if we manage to repatriate some of those, i can't help thinking that estonian jails would be a cut above. yeah the sort of the sort of rat infested sub premier inn stuff that they get over here.

they're going to be loving it, aren't they going to be having open sandwiches and saunas, saunas. >> it's going to be a really jammy i think we, we don't want, we don't i'm not sure we want them going to estonia. >> there's two. i'm surprised the government's looking at this. this feels like rwanda 2.0 plus one. if it seems like a strange thing as well. and also the piece about, reforming prisoners is very, very important. but i would be surprised if the government took this step because, again, it will just feel like hypocrisy, because when the when the former government came up with a way of moving people offshore, they screamed racist. but that was moving the justice offshore. they screamed, they they screamed, waste of money, etcetera, etcetera. this would there would be a big step, a very big step. >> they'd still be convicted in british courts. it would just be serving a sentence in estonia . serving a sentence in estonia. and if you're an overseas prisoner, obviously that would be less of an impact on you just serving a sentence when you're beyond our immediate care. >> would, would, would, would be risky. i imagine there would be campaigns launched against it. i personally think you could have a look at it, but i do think it

would be challenging. >> okay, well, let's move on now because alison, your latest piece in the telegraph, your column has lifted the lid on a drug that you say has helped to banish shame and transform your life for the better. can you fill us in? tell us a bit more? >> well, i'm going to blush here. yes. for three weeks, i have been taking a drug called mounjaro, which is part of the family of ozempic, which is more well known and wegovy. and it stops you feeling hungry. martin. so the days of 9:00 snacking, are now banished. and ihave snacking, are now banished. and i have acquired a willpower assistant . that's how i describe assistant. that's how i describe it, is that i'm thinking about something in the cupboard and the willpower assistant says, alison, you really don't need that. so it's working wonderfully. i've, today i weighed myself. i've lost 4.3% of my body weight, and most of thatis of my body weight, and most of that is chins. martin. >> so i'm not going to comment on that. but you also say in your column, it's not just about the weight loss. it has a profound effect on your on your i mean, i'm no doctor. i'm not prescribing this. by the way, i

did buy some of this stuff onune did buy some of this stuff online just out of curiosity. i was too scared to take it in my fridge since february. i'm not that tubby. but anyway, back to you.so that tubby. but anyway, back to you. so not just the physical side, but you say it's giving you like a general mood lift, is that right? >> yeah, i think because i think i was having lots of sugar spikes. i think i was quite a sugar addict. so i'm just much, much calmer. i think my husband thinks i'm being nicer, which is a good sign on a on a more serious point, i do think this could be the biggest revolution in medical science since the invention of the vaccination. really i do, because they are now saying that these drugs, not only do they help you lose weight, they control possibly against cancer, heart disease, even alzheimer's. martin i mean, this this is going to be extraordinary. 1 in 4 british adults is obese, 1 in 5 british children aged 9 to 10 is obese. right. so if, if this could the pnces right. so if, if this could the prices will come down. and i bet you in ten years we are going to see millions of people taking this as they take statins now. >> but lord bailey, is this indicative of today's quick fix

world? we want to we want to jab in our flank or whatever it is, but we don't want to do the tough work actually losing weight, doing the exercises. is that more beneficial? >> there'll be people at home now who get up every morning and walk the dog. don't eat that extra chocolate biscuit. who will say just that? i would say to them, your taxes would go down. i would say to them, your family will be happier. i think it's something the nhs need to look at. i think recently we just overtook the americans with the proportion of our population thatis the proportion of our population that is obese, obesity costs the national health service billions a year. it's the greatest contributor to, to, amputations and blindness in the country. we are where we are as a country. we need to do something about it. i wish we all went running in the morning and did weights in the morning and did weights in the morning and did weights in the afternoon, but we don't. >> but can i just say in defence of people like me, it's not like you just kind of keep eating doughnuts and be jabbing yourself. i'm eating a very, very healthy food. i'm probably eating about a third or a quarter of what i was eating before, and i am going to the gym, so it isn't. it isn't a

lazy option. and i just want to make clear to viewers, this is the before photograph and there will be an after photograph in a few months time. >> it's a catalyst for change, isn't it? and it's a catalyst to get people on the road. the only way we can look at as a nation, though, is if nice. the national institute for clinical excellence, have a look at it. and of course, there's always a cost to take into account. >> and they look fabulous as you are. you look fabulous. anyway, if that's sexist, so sue me now. parliament returned this week, but here's a reminder of what our deputy prime minister angela raynen our deputy prime minister angela rayner, got up to on her summer holidays. i think since we said that we would still be friends. >> but i'll admit that i was glad it was over. >> from dad dancing to mad dancing , well, she was hauled dancing, well, she was hauled over the coals for her antics earlier on today, you know. >> yes, i'm working class. i like a dance. i like dance music. i got criticised for going to the opera. if you remember , i wasn't allowed. i remember, i wasn't allowed. i was a champagne socialist. >> alison, even dancing is about

class. why did the labour party have to make everything about class? >> well, i don't think it's about that. i think what happened was i think she had a 90, happened was i think she had a go, didn't she, at rishi, being off enjoying himself, i think with the country feels like everything's coming unravelling. it feels absolutely mad. they're all saying there's a 22 billion black hole and ange is to be found in an ibiza nightclub shaking her booty. i think i think it was more that really, i think it was more that really, i think it was more that really, i think it was. i actually like the fact she likes dancing politically. >> it was quite a bit of a problem because i mean, this is the day after the story being floated that people are going to be banned from smoking outside their local wetherspoons. while she was off in ibiza. i mean, i mean, you know, angela's got great verve. i used to go we were in the same constituency, labour party for a while. we used to go knocking on doors and afterwards she would give me a lift home in a soft top audi and she'd say, i'm just going to put on a few my favourite hacienda dance tunes, and we'd bang out down the a6 in stockport with the, with the hacienda top picks

playing there. i have to say the elderly councillors loved it. >> that was an uncanny impression and quite a vivid. >> i'm a mancunian, but you know, i'm. >> yeah, and i love my hacienda classics too. i was a student in manchester at the time of the glory days. superb, sir. thank you very much. thank you very much. stop now. coming up. the votes have been counted and the results are in. so which airport has been crowned? the uk's worst. i'll all. when to tonight's greatest britain and their union jack. but

welcome back to patrick christys tonight with me . martin daubney tonight with me. martin daubney only on gb news. now. it's time now to return to the liveliest pay per now to return to the liveliest pay per view on telly, and more front pages have just been delivered hot off the press. let's start with the daily mirror, which announces a royal exclusive, a monument for queen elizabeth. apparently that's going to be built in saint james's park in london. that's the nearest park, of course, to buckingham palace. next on to the daily mail and rwanda's back. but it's germany planning

to use it, and they want to put migrants in the facilities britain paid for. we'll have much to say about that in a moment. next, on to the guardian. and they're saying no justice for the grenfell tragedy until the next decade. so the report was out yesterday and that's the advocates and the representatives saying they don't believe anything will happen any time soon. and then finally, for this hour, we have the times again, a picture of splendid facial fuzz there of prince the prince of wales on the front. allison pearson, rather taken by that, i don't think, the headline, however, being the firm behind grenfell refit blocked from closing down cavalier architects await blaze investigation. so that's the latest of the front pages. and let's go back to one of those stories. and it wasn't good enough for starmer's government. but today germany's migration commissioner has proposed sending migrants to rwanda to deal with the migrants crossing the country's eastern border and we've made it even easier for

them with the hotels and the hostels prepared for britain's now axed rwanda deal are simply sitting empty. and what this is aboutis sitting empty. and what this is about is the fact that it's going to be simply a handover. allison pearson, a system, a scheme axed on the very first day by sir keir starmer of the new government. he was over doing a bromance tour, a european tour, looking for solutions, pan european solutions, pan european solutions with the french, with the germans. now olaf scholz is just going to say, well, we're going to do what you should have done. >> yes. >> yes. >> don't worry, martin, because it only costs us £700 million. >> crazy. >> crazy. >> it doesn't matter, yes, well, i think i think this is very interesting because germany and indeed lots of other eu countries, the migrant situation is extremely serious. germany was the afd. the far right afd just did very well in some local elections recently. and germany is seeing is the population is really turning against schultz

and these mainstream politicians who have done really nothing about them being overwhelmed by immigration. so i think we're going to see not just germany, we're going to see lots of countries. they've been talking about deals with tunisia and morocco. so while we this this is so typical of britain, isn't it ? we're going to be the it? we're going to be the softest touch in europe because they're all going to have these deterrent schemes to send migrants. >> there's a big difference with the british scheme , which is the british scheme, which is that it would be so supervised by the united nations, so it wouldn't be done under it. so people would be accommodated there. but they but it would be under united nations auspices, which is different to the to the british. the british scheme that was proposed. the big problem i mean, labour's not against offshoring, labour is not against offshoring processing, but it's about doing the same thing. >> britain. >> britain. >> it's not the same thing because because they won't be deau because because they won't be dealt with by rwandan courts, they'll be dealt with by, by german. but under german law. and so the i mean, so you say about tunisia, it's absolutely right. we need to get offshore

processing going, but we need to do it under european law for fairness. >> it's fundamental isn't going to do offshore processing. >> it's fundamentally the same thing. you'll be taking people from your native land, germany, and processing them, storing them, keeping them whatever term you want to use in rwanda and what the germans have demonstrating is europe was had run out of ideas and the british had one. and it turns out it's the best idea on the table. >> denmark's doing it already. yes. >> to be clear, other nations were looking at it whilst we were looking at it whilst we were doing it. and what the germans are going to have now is a real bargain, because we've footed a large part of the setup cost and that's why they're going after tony blair back in the day, gordon brown back in the day, gordon brown back in the day, gordon brown back in the day, david blunkett back in the day, david blunkett back in the day. >> they all talked about containment processing in africa. suddenly it's not good enough for sir keir starmer. but the final fag end in in the pines. if you like. surely. is it britain's paid for all this? it's simply sitting there waiting for the germans as ever to roll out their towels and take the best seats as ever , take the best seats as ever, keir starmer was much more

focused on being anti the government than being effective, and what he's found is he's landed in number 10. >> congratulations. it's very difficult. you don't have a plan. you never had a plan . and plan. you never had a plan. and the germans are about to steal your best plan. and all across europe we're seeing now these people, they're terrified of the far right. >> we're seeing the far right rising across europe, germany after the stabbings in solingen recently by a syrian, asylum seeker, has said, right, you can come, but it's going to be bed and bread. that's it. absolute iron rations, nothing else. so my worry is that our offer here with benefits and phones and so on will make us more, not less attractive. >> okay. superb stuff. now we've got to move on because it's time that part of the show to reveal today's greatest britain and union jackass. so panel, let's go over to you, alison. give us your greatest britain >> it is we are grenfell united. the groups of the bereaved and the survivors from that absolute terrible tragedy in which not forget. let's not forget 72

people, including 18 children, lost their lives . this group, lost their lives. this group, martin, have put up with hell. horrible being overlooked, patronised, neglected and now still trying to find the justice thatis still trying to find the justice that is so deserved for those people who lost their lives totally unnecessarily. according totally unnecessarily. according to the inquiry report this week, an excellent jaw—jaw lloyd bailey, my greatest briton is margaret thatcher, and not just because she's a tory prime minister. >> she was the longest serving prime minister since the second world war. but it's actually to send a message to keir starmer instead of removing her picture from number 10. what you should be focusing on is how was she able to be such a reforming prime minister? because i actually want the labour government to succeed for the for the good of this country, and that will mean serious reform. she should focus on being a reforming prime minister as she was. >> matthew, over to you. yeah, mine's nicholas winton. it's the 85th anniversary this week of the final kindertransport that saw jewish children escape the nazis. and find safety in britain. nicholas winton was the british chap who cajoled and

harassed the british authorities to give 669 children permits to escape. and this week a street was the station where they left from has been named in his honoun from has been named in his honour. okay, three superb choices. >> i think the winner has to be allison pearson. we are grenfell, a notable winner. thank you. three great choices, but i think that has to be the clear winner and let's move on to your nomination alison for union jackass. >> it is that giant numpty david lammy . allegedly, our foreign lammy. allegedly, our foreign secretary must be the least diplomatic human being ever to hold the office of our most senior diplomat. he's making us a laughing stock on the world stage. apart from that , you love him. >> lord bailey, labour, the labour party, just labour, the labour party, just labour, the labour party, just labour, the labour party is private school vat . it is labour party is private school vat. it is not. it labour party is private school vat . it is not. it is not vat. it is not. it is not helping anybody. it actually will make life harder for poorer children in state school , not children in state school, not better. and it's an unworkable policy and it's just undeliverable. >> matthew and mine. i won't do the manc accent, but it's

manchester airport, third year in a row, which have dubbed it britain's worst airport. and as somebody who's been through two. wonderful. no, because i'll get cancelled to wonderful, wonderful nordic airports today. we need you know, airports are important. they're our window on the world and it's letting the north down. >> well, three fantastic choices. but in the interest of political balance, we can't just keep bashing the leftie there. let's have manchester. >> oh gets back something superb. >> just thank you very much guys. excellent show tonight. now we're back again tomorrow from 9 pm. and next up it's headliners. thank you very much to my panel tonight i'll be back in my in my usual slot three till 6 pm. the martin daubney show back tomorrow with all the sort of searing political analysis and we might have a little bit of a dig at the labour party. i've been far too nice to them tonight with matthew laws in the show, thanks to my glorious palace, my glorious panel. allison pearson, laura bailey, matthew long it's been an absolute blast. thank you very much for anneliese up next. it's headliners can be a superb show. and before that

though, it's your weather. thank you very much for joining us this evening. i hope i've done patrick christys a service. he's having a well—deserved holiday. he'll be back soon. tomorrow. ben leo is filling this chair. have a fantastic evening. cheers . have a fantastic evening. cheers. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar, sponsors of weather on gb news. >> hello again . welcome to the >> hello again. welcome to the latest update from the met office for gb news. it's been a miserable end to the day for the south and south—west, and we'll see further spells of heavy rain dunng see further spells of heavy rain during the next 24 to 48 hours around this area of low pressure that's sitting over the continent. that's pushing some weather fronts up into the south, but they are tending to stall. having said that, overnight, the heaviest of the rain will tend to fizzle away for a time . still, some heavy for a time. still, some heavy showers around towards the south—east. wales for a time, but otherwise a lot of cloud

across the uk, especially in the south and the east. that low cloud will lead to a misty start in places on friday morning, and a mild start 15 to 17 celsius. a muggy night to come for many of us, but it's not going to be cloudy everywhere, certainly towards western scotland. we'll see blue skies first thing on friday. plenty of sunshine out there and already a warm start to the day. it's going to get warmer as the day progresses. northern ireland seeing some decent sunshine, particularly towards the west . likewise for towards the west. likewise for southwest scotland, cumbria, lancashire, north wales these are the areas where we didn't see much summery weather during the summer. but on friday and saturday we'll see plenty of warm sunshine instead. the midlands, east anglia, some sunshine for a time, but across south wales into the south of england, mostly around the m4 corridor and southwards, there will be thick cloud and they'll be heavy outbreaks of rain on and off through the day. increasingly focused across parts of somerset, devon and cornwall. that could cause some issues. localised flooding,

transport disruption, that sort of thing. but elsewhere we've got the sunshine 25 to 27 celsius even as far north as northwest scotland. now

celsius even as far north as northwest scotland. ideliver £60 million, fails to deliver value for money for the taxpayer. we've been speaking with local people in scampton to hear their reaction to the news. >> absolutely ecstatic . i'm over >> absolutely ecstatic. i'm over the moon. i don't think it's quite properly sunk in yet, and i'm sure i'll do a bit of a happy dance later, but yeah, i couldn't be happier. it's been a long time coming. >> yes. so this is what we've been working really hard for 18 months is to secure the future of the site . and today we've of the site. and today we've learned that the site will no longer be part of the asylum programme, and it will be disposed of, and therefore we can use our regeneration plans and proposals to move forward . brilliant. >> i can't believe it. it's great news. best news i've heard for a long time. >> now, the prime minister said he is deeply saddened by the

death of a member of the royal navy after a merlin helicopter ditched in the english channel. the incident occurred during operations with hms queen elizabeth. no other fatalities or serious injuries have been