>> hello, good afternoon and welcome to gb news. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua and for the next few hours, me and my panel will be taking on some of the big topics hitting the headlines. right now this show is all about opinion. headlines. right now this show is all about opinion . it's mine, is all about opinion. it's mine, it's theirs, and of course it's yours. we'll be debating and discussing and at times we will disagree. but no one will be cancelled. so joining me for the next few hours, human rights campaigner peter tatchell and also political commentator lin mei. coming up in my niggle after agreeing to union demands

for pay hikes for train drivers and doctors, and claiming those with the broadest shoulders should carry the heavier burden . should carry the heavier burden. >> but i will be honest with you, there is a budget coming in october and it's going to be painful. we have no other choice, given the situation that we're in. those with the broadest shoulders should bear the heavier burden . the heavier burden. >> keir starmer finds herself in a bit of a bind with the unions over the removal of pensioners winter fuel payments. so who is running the labour party.7 unelected union bosses or our elected prime minister, keir starmer .7 in the interview at starmer.7 in the interview at 2023. big brother six winner anthony hutton's life for changed good, taking home a whopping £50,000 prize. his cheeky and charming personality captivated viewers, but all that glitters isn't gold, and anthony found himself down a dark path of drugs and alcohol. he'll be here to tell us his story. then it's all gone very quiet on the

labour benches. dodgy landlord giles archewell , the biggest giles archewell, the biggest landlord in the commons, broke his own licensing rules and his flats were infested with damp and rats. but nothing from the labour party was keir starmer. swift justice when you need it and a young man finds himself in what looks like a tidal sewer. but what happens next? before we get started, let's get you latest news with tatiana sanchez . latest news with tatiana sanchez. >> nana, thank you very much and good afternoon. the top stories sir keir starmer has arrived to meet his irish counterpart simon harris, as part of a commitment to reset relations between the uk and ireland. the pair are in dubun uk and ireland. the pair are in dublin this afternoon and will sit down with business leaders across the country. and it's expected that trade across the irish sea will be top of their agenda with that relationship worth an estimated ,100 billion every year. as well as supporting thousands of jobs. >> it's a pleasure to be here,

to have this opportunity which we will to take renew the friendship between our countries. that reset, i think, can be meaningful. it can be deep, of course, it covers the relationship between our two countries, obviously it has to cover the good friday agreement, and i take very seriously our joint role in relation to that. and i've been very clear about that for many, many years and renew that commitment here today. and the wider eu reset. >> well, in other news, police searching for a british man in majorca , in the same area where majorca, in the same area where a british woman was found dead earlier this week, have found a body the spanish civil guard have said they believe the pair had been swept away in a flash flood after a storm hit the mediterranean island on tuesday. emergency services have been searching the area since wednesday after they rescued ten hikers and recovered the body of a 26 year old woman , a woman in

a 26 year old woman, a woman in her 60s and her dog have both died following a collision with a taxi while out walking in kent. officers attended the scene last night along with south east coast ambulance service, but the woman and her dog died at the scene . in other dog died at the scene. in other news, a royal navy serviceman who was killed when a helicopter made a deliberate emergency landing over the channel on wednesday has been named as lieutenant rhodri leyshon. three people were on board the merlin mklr people were on board the merlin mk4 during a night exercise when it ditched off the dorset coastline, killing the 31 year old. a statement from rhodri's family described him as talented, passionate, strong and loyal . it said talented, passionate, strong and loyal. it said we'll talented, passionate, strong and loyal . it said we'll always have loyal. it said we'll always have him in our hearts, our wonderful boy . the snp him in our hearts, our wonderful boy. the snp has called on the prime minister to u—turn on plans to cut winter fuel payments. research has shown that close to a million pensioners in scotland received the payments between 2022 and

last year, but under new labour plans, 87% of those would lose that financial support. now more heavy rain is expected across the uk today, with many still at risk of flooding. the met office has said a new band of heavy and thundery rain will arrive on the south coast today and will make its way north overnight . its way north overnight. britains jack draper has crashed out of the us open after being sick four times during his semi—final match. the british number one had hoped to emulate the likes of andy murray and emma raducanu by taking the title, but was ultimately beaten by jannik sinner. draper cited issues with anxiety as the reason for his exit from the competition, describing it as the worst feeling ever. >> i had chances here and there and i didn't take them and obviously when you play the best players in the world, you need to do that. and yeah, i obviously wasn't wasn't feeling my best and struggled. at certain certain periods of the

match, especially towards the end. but you know, yannick, yannick beat me fair and square. he was he was too strong for me today. >> and in a round a couple of hours time, england will take on ireland in the uefa nations league. and this will be the first test for england's interim manager, lee carsley, following gareth southgate stepping down after defeat in the euro finals this summer. carsley has faced criticism after he said he won't sing the national anthem during that game, although the former ireland player says he is respectful of the concept. elsewhere in the competition, wales faced a goalless draw last night against turkey and on thursday night scotland suffered a three two defeat to poland, whilst northern ireland beat luxembourg two nil and it's been another brilliant day for team gb so far. at the paralympics. we started the morning on 100 medals and that number has now grown once again, with a further three golds, two silver and two bronze for the british team,

including a win for finley graham in the men's c1 three road race. and those are the latest gb news headlines for now i'm tatiana sanchez. more from me in half an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gb news. >> .com. forward slash alerts . >> .com. forward slash alerts. >> .com. forward slash alerts. >> right. welcome to gb news. seven minutes after 3:00. coming up , prime seven minutes after 3:00. coming up, prime minister sir keir starmer has been meeting the taoiseach or simon harris or the prime minister he's working hard to reset relations with his european neighbours and bolster ties with the trading bloc. joining me in the irish capital with three lines, but has the new manager already got himself in hot water? england boss lee carsley says he will not sing the national anthem before the

nafions the national anthem before the nations league tie with the repubuc nations league tie with the republic of ireland. i'll also be joined by royal biographer angela levin joins me live. we'll be looking at how the uk has common commemorating this two year anniversary of the queen's death . and for the great queen's death. and for the great british debate, i'm asking, should parents be punished for the crimes of their children? it's a violent crime committed by under 18, has gone up by 22% since the pandemic. is it time for parents to take more responsibility? that's coming up in the next hour. don't forget some of your thoughts. post your comments gbnews.com/yoursay . comments gbnews.com/yoursay. right. so prime minister sir keir starmer is in dublin today to meet the irish premier, simon harris. the pair will discuss resetting uk's irish relations. northern ireland secretary hilary benn hailed a new chapter between the two nations. so, as keir starmer tried to get britain closer to the eu. joining joining me, political commentator peter spencer. peter spencen commentator peter spencer. peter spencer, thank you for joining me. right. let's talk about it.

he's in ireland. keir starmer, what do you think his plan is ? what do you think his plan is? >> well of course he wants to reset and improve trade relations with the european union. >> remember he is what he's doing today is all part of the same charm offensive as he did a few days ago, when he did his away days in france and germany. half our trade, our export trade is with european union countries. four years ago we told the european union to do one basically and flounced off and so since then, relations have been pretty frosty, which haven't done a great deal for trade. >> that said, credit where it's due . due. >> rishi sunak did a pretty good job in trying to repair things , job in trying to repair things, but he's still he was stuck with the legacy of boris johnson and the legacy of boris johnson and the brexit deal and what we have today is keir starmer trying to

consolidate that improvement in relations and of course, there's a particular particular sensitivity in ireland because remember 100 years ago they gained their independence from england from from britain, i should say, by force of arms. and then after that, of course, there was the partition of ireland and the six counties formed, which formed part of ulster, remained part of the part of the united kingdom. and that led to a great many complications. and indeed the, the, the, the government in the north of ireland. stormont was collapsed for two years because of the fact that the trading arrangements did not meet their requirements. >> you see, this is the thing because you've got the border in the irish sea. you've got the fact that some parts of ireland will benefit from the being in the eu, whereas the bit is outside the eu . keir starmer is outside the eu. keir starmer is not going to be able to do

anything really about all of that unless he rejoins the eu, which even though he has this wonderful 158 seat majority, that would be kind of breaching the british public's trust because we had a democratic mandate via a referendum that we all voted for. do you feel that perhaps starmer might try and sort of get us back into the eu? >> i don't think he'd have the cojones to go quite that far, to be honest. but i do think that he would like to oil wheels wherever possible and indeed, as you rightly say, we had a democratic referendum and the majority was in favour of leaving the european union a few years back. but that majority was wafer thin. and in subsequent years there is huge polling evidence of buyer's remorse. so i think starmer trying to improve relations and improve ties and stitch them up a little bit more tightly. i think he'd be pushing it pretty much an open door when it comes

to public opinion. >> well, we watch and wait with bated breath to see what he actually does. i would say it's unwise for him to think that he could try and sort of get past the british public and try and skew me in the sort of the back door eu deal, but we shall see. thank you very much, peter spencen thank you very much, peter spencer, really good to talk to you. well joining prime minister sir keir starmer in dublin is a three lions england manager, lee carsley, who announced that he will not sing the national anthem at his first game, leading the team against ireland later today. previously, he played 40 times for ireland. will will be leading the england senior team for the first time even senior team for the first time ever. but has he gotten off to a very bad start? and what's the point of having a manager for a country like england who's not prepared to then be? well, in a sense nationalistic. you're playing, you're leading england. join us now. joining us now, sports broadcaster and journalist aidan magee aiden. what on earth is going on? why would you even admit that ? would you even admit that? >> well, i don't think it was a

case of admission. >> nana. he was asked it in a press conference last night. i think it was a written briefing off the main press conference. so he wouldn't have seen it coming. in fact, it would have hit him straight in the middle of the eyes. there would have been no briefing from the fa, and he got a rude awakening as to what being england manager is all about. he's only managed really at representative levels, at underage levels and a couple of interim jobs at a caretaker bafis of interim jobs at a caretaker basis at a couple of league clubs. so i wouldn't suggest that he was expecting it. he probably hadn't framed his answer . but probably hadn't framed his answer. but you know what? i don't think it's a major problem. i mean, there are lots of england players who don't sing the national anthem. we saw that last summer at the euros. when we think of the england managers in the past, i'm not sure all of them have sung the national anthem, and i don't think they will necessarily in future. lee carsley himself said that he didn't even sing the national anthem. while he respects the concept, he didn't sing the national anthem when he was playing for the republic of ireland, as you say. he had 40 caps. he played in a world cup for them , it's down to one's own prerogative. >> well , there's one minor

>> well, there's one minor detail that you've admitted they are playing ireland. do you know what i mean ? yeah, they are what i mean? yeah, they are playing ireland. it does sort of look well. >> well there's the, there's, there's the, there's the problem though. nana because this fixture has had an intense an intense history, an incendiary history at some point, especially in 1995 when england fans rioted in dublin at the old lansdowne road. so picture this scenario . if he goes in there scenario. if he goes in there tonight and we know the history between the two countries, not just in the football pitch, but away from the football pitch, far, far outside of the sphere of football. if he goes in there, 50,000 fans at the aviva stadium and then starts bellowing out with his hand on his chest, the english national anthem, i think that can antagonise the home fans. don't forget declan rice is already going back there tonight, having snubbed ireland. jack grealish to. there are several other engush to. there are several other english players tonight who have irish connections who could have played for ireland but chose not to. and so from a security perspective , it might be a wise perspective, it might be a wise thing to do. having said that, i'm by saying that i'm kind of

intimating there's been some planning going into this. that wasn't the case. this hit the england manager between the eyes last night. >> he sort of caught between a rock and a hard place, to be fair to him, because he should sing it. if you are managing england. however, if he does sing it when they're playing ireland, they may think, well, he's a bit of a traitor really sort of thing, you know, because there's a bit of. yeah, but then he is anyway, in their eyes, potentially because he's the manager for england . manager for england. >> yeah. look, you're absolutely right. >> but the point is that, you know, i don't think too many england fans will will care about this because you know, jack charlton was manager of, you know, the republic of ireland between 1985 and 1996, a hugely celebrated figure within engush hugely celebrated figure within english football because he won the world cup in 66 and with his connections to his brother bobby and everything like that, and also he was a the most successful manager of the repubuc successful manager of the republic of ireland ever had. he managed to cross that divide. i don't recall him singing the national anthem while he was the repubuc national anthem while he was the republic of ireland manager, and i know he's not officially in football terms. he was. he was english, but nonetheless nobody

ever held that against him. and the key thing now, though, is that he got results on the pitch. if lee carsley gets results like , like tonight and results like, like tonight and in future on the pitch and gets the job, nobody will care a jot about this press conference. last night. >> all right. so what do you think the score will be, >> it's usually a draw. winning them play ireland. so i'm going to go for nil nil nil nil i'm going to go for one nil to england. >> aidan magee. thank you very much. really good to talk to you. that is aidan magee. you're with me. i'm nana akua. this is gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. coming up, gb news on tv, online and on digital radio. coming up , feral digital radio. coming up, feral children. should parents be punished for the crimes of their children? it's as a report reveals, children getting arrested for committing violent crime has gone up by 22% since the pandemic, but next, what do you think england manager should he have to sing the national anthem? this

gb news. good afternoon. 19 minutes after 3:00. welcome. if you just tuned in, i'm nana akua. this is gb news. we are the people's channel. we're live on tv, onune channel. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. it's time now for the great british debate. this hour i'm asking should the england manager sing the national anthem now? after the euros, the final, the boss at the loss of the departure of the lovely gareth southgate waistcoat . southgate, southgate waistcoat. southgate, england's interim manager, lee carsley, will take charge of the game against republic of ireland later. but is his tenure over before it's already started? he's announced that he will not sing the national anthem before the game, leading to the team against ireland. later, he is in fact irish, which is a major, major, point with this. so the great british debate, sir, i'm asking, should the england manager sing the national anthem in their game against ireland? joining me now, former conservative advisor charlie rowley and human rights campaigner peter tatchell, peter tatchell, i'll come to you

first. what do you think? what kind of a story is this? what do you think? >> well, i don't think it matters whether he sings the national anthem or not. >> what's important is he boosts england to win the game. >> that's the most important thing. >> and of course , in the run up >> and of course, in the run up to the start of the game, he has to the start of the game, he has to be absolutely laser focused on what the team needs to do. >> he doesn't need the distraction of the national anthem , so i support his anthem, so i support his decision, >> also , we should note that >> also, we should note that historically when he played for ireland, he never sang the irish national anthem. he was focused on the game, so he said he has to focus on the game, not the song, but that's easy for him to say. >> but then some fans might look at that and go, oh, you are the england manager. so even if you didn't, because he was a player then, so as a player you could sort of probably fudge not singing the national anthem. but as a manager, you know, you want as a manager, you know, you want a sense of patriotism, surely, charlie. >> yeah, i think that's right. and i think, look, you know, england for a long time have wanted to sort of win, whether it's the euros, whether it's the

world cup, you know, we haven't got so close within touching distance over the last couple of years, i think you want someone who don't necessarily have to be an english manager, because we've obviously had sven—goran eriksson, we've had fabio capello, a swede, an italian. you know, i can't remember whether they sang the english national anthem or not. i don't think it would matter because it ultimately what peter is saying, it comes down to results. we want to win the games. but i think it does show in his interview just the pressure that the england manager faces and kind of the questions that you will be faced in that kind of sort of pressure cooker role, probably only well, some describe it as the second most pressured job to being prime minister of the united kingdom, i think because the whole nation is relying on you to do so well and wanting you to win. and but for what it's worth, i don't think, he'll be there for, for that long. i think he's just an interim. >> and this is probably the death knell after doing that, especially against ireland. and also, what are your thoughts on i don't know whether they'll be taking the knee on this. i doubt it, but where do you sit with taking the knee, charlie? >> i mean , in my world, in my,

>> i mean, in my world, in my, you know , i it's not something you know, i it's not something that, you know, i would do. you know, i treat everybody equally. i treat everybody fairly. i don't necessarily feel the need to, you know, that is how i live my life. you know, i will defend anybody that feels that they're being sort of a target or oppressed or where there's inequality that is just how i will you go about my life. so i don't need to take the knee for a particular cause or individual, or do anything that demonstrates that i'm committed to a particular. but that is just how i live my life. fairly equally and with respect to everybody. so you know, each to their own, obviously, if it's a cause that people obviously want to, to, to draw attention to, that is a matter for them. but it's not something that i would, i would peter tatchell, your thoughts, your stance on that going back to lee carsley. >> yeah, just one point. he has made the point very clearly that he respects both national anthems and the right of people to sing it. he's totally behind the english team. i don't think we should roast him just because of this stance about the anthem.

on taking the knee. it's been done a lot and i've always supported it , done a lot and i've always supported it, but i think it's become a bit ritualistic now and i think there's also a very good argument that there should be other symbols taken for disabled people, for women , for lgbt, for people, for women, for lgbt, for a whole raft of different ways we could go on forever. we could, we could, we could, but the issue i have with the premier league is the blanket ban on women players. i think it's absolutely wrong for the fa to say that women are not allowed to play in any english registered teams that are for men. i think players players should be selected based on merit, not their sex, and i think that it's very unlikely there is a woman player who would be up to the mark, but it might be possible and i don't think they should be automatically excluded. i think that's sexist discrimination, and i think we want the best

players in our teams. and, you know, this policy has been enforced even at very local, local level . one club was fined local level. one club was fined for they were short of a player and they let a woman player play for their side and they got fined by the fa. that was terrible. >> yeah. but that opens the door for things to be the other way round . so if you're saying that round. so if you're saying that okay. yeah, that's really terrible that the woman can't play terrible that the woman can't play in the men's league and men can't. a man can't play in the women's league, which actually i agree with because i think this is about bodies. it's about safeguarding, it's about safety. and obviously men are considerably stronger than women. and this is about power and strength. this isn't about sexism. this is simply about the physicality and the anatomy and physiology of a man. yeah, but but each individual player should be assessed on their strength and their merit, not on their gender. who's got time for that ? that's not realistic, that? that's not realistic, peter. and also, it protects women because what that does is stop men from then going, oh, i'm going to just join the women's now. >> no, no, i don't agree with that. >> i don't agree with that. >> i don't agree with that. >> but you can't do one and then

not the other. surely we are after equality. no the premier league, the premier league is the number one football league in this country. >> it's the top players. i think if there was a woman who met the criterion, who had the strength, the skills, the talent , they the skills, the talent, they should not be automatically excluded by the fa not being excluded by the fa not being excluded because otherwise it opens the door the other way round. >> can you not see that once you've done that, you can't then say, oh yeah, but no men can play say, oh yeah, but no men can play in the women's game, charlie. well, just just to balance because i think in the premier league you do have a female officials, women officials , referees, assistant referees. >> because obviously, you know, they are able to, you know, obviously keep up with the pace. they're running the line. it's not necessarily running diagonally in football which you do, which actually takes up a lot more time and effort on the pitch. i did my fa badges a few years ago and i was a referee myself, so. but, but, but but no female because of the biology. it is just a pure and simple fact that when it comes to the biology, you will always have a male player that will always be stronger physically quicker and therefore a woman in a

biologically that's an interesting, interesting assumption not backed by evidence. >> well , it is evidence. >> well, it is backed by evidence, actually. >> women of men , i think it's >> women of men, i think it's putting down women. >> it's not putting down talented women. >> no. you're confusing gender reality and biology with an ideology, and it's all very well. you can have this ideological stance that everyone should be equal, everyone can do. but then reality kicks in and the reality is that women are biologically different from men, and that biology means that in certain sports like boxing, you should not have men. in boxing. i don't care what anyone says. there is no way a man can punch 2.6 times harder than a woman in general. >> that's a different issue , >> that's a different issue, we're saying about opening up the premier league and indeed other leagues to talented women who meet the criteria to play against men who have the strength to play against men. >> yeah, yeah. >> yeah, yeah. >> if they, if they want to no compulsion. >> would you close the door the other way around then . other way around then. >> so yes, i would, i would, no. >> but how could you do it one

way. >> well because the premier league is very different from any of the women's leagues, we should be doing. >> that's just what we should be doing, is spending our time celebrating the women's premier league. exactly where you're seeing thousands of more fans going to celebrate women in football and putting that up the agenda, who are actually the lionesses are more successful than ours. yeah, i agree, i agree we should be concentrating sukh the lionesses. there are girls and women in football and they have that and they are the best in the world. we should be championing that, celebrating that, giving that more if not the premier league. >> what about the what about the lower leagues women, the local leagues where there is a ban on women, women and girls? >> i actually i don't think so. i mean, i think it stops. they stop mixing them at about 14, age 14. so look, this is a biological reality for women that we're somewhat different to men . and when it comes to men. and when it comes to certain sports, there is no reason as to why we should then all say, oh , or try and pretend all say, oh, or try and pretend that that reality doesn't. >> i can tell you there's quite a few women i know who are stronger than me. yeah, but they might a bit of a flyweight, i admit. but there are women who are stronger than you, peter. you probably are. so is tatiana.

>> she's stronger than you. i've seen her do her crunches with the barbells. yeah, but look, it's not about. >> it's not generalise. don't generalise. >> no, no, you have to reality, peter. it's all very well saying, let's not generalise where women and men and women are different and it's okay. and there's nothing wrong with that. but once you acknowledge the biological reality, stop trying to then say, oh, we should all be doing exactly the same thing just to open the door for women. i think that's quite i think that's quite divisive, peter, you know that . you know that. >> no, there's no compulsion proposed. no, because it is purely voluntary. purely voluntary. >> if you say have you been watching, have you heard the park runs, the park runs where men can go into the women's category. we're not talking about that. >> yeah, we're talking about. >> yeah, we're talking about. >> no, but this is the door that you're opening. this is the pandora's box that you suddenly opened. it is. it's the same thing allowing women to participate in the top flight game, or even the local levels, the junior leagues. >> women, though that would be fine. >> but against women, not against men, not in men's, there would be men that just would not feel comfortable wanting to play in this team or against an

opposing a woman in an opposing football team, because they'd be worried about hurting them. peter, there there were men out there who were really chivalrous, who would not want to play against a woman. they would not want to tackle a woman. they would be worried about hurting them. right >> well, all i can say is when that football team allowed a woman to participate because they were short of a man and they were short of a man and they got fined by the fa. yes absolutely. the woman in that team did well. she performed well, wasn't injured and the male players saluted her and said she was a fine player. >> lovely . and that's a lovely >> lovely. and that's a lovely little story to end on. but back in the real world, peter, no woman in their right mind would want to play against a bunch of men, and most men in their right minds wouldn't play against women simply for fear of potentially hurting them. because we are all aware that men are considerably biologically stronger than women in most cases. peter tatchell, thank you very much. charlie, charlie, peter , i was talking to charlie, peter, i was talking to you. charlie peters there. charlie rowley i was with him yesterday. you do have a similarity, actually, to be fair, but that's my panel. they

will be back very shortly. you're with me. i'm nana akua. this is gb news. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. 31 minutes after 3:00. next, we'll be going ahead behind the palace walls with andrew levin. but first, here are the latest news headlines with tatiana sanchez. >> nana. thank you and good afternoon. the top stories this houn afternoon. the top stories this hour. sir keir starmer has met with his irish counterpart, simon harris. this afternoon as part of a commitment to reset relations between the uk and ireland. they're now sitting down with business leaders from around the country, with trade across the irish sea expected to be top of their agenda , with be top of their agenda, with that relationship worth an estimated ,100 billion every yeah estimated ,100 billion every year. as well as supporting thousands of jobs. this is what sir keir had to say about the relationship between the two countries. >> it's a pleasure to be here, to have this opportunity which we will take to renew the

friendship between our countries. that reset, i think, can be meaningful, it can be deep, of course, it covers the relationship between our two countries, obviously it has to cover the good friday agreement, and i take very seriously our joint role in relation to that. and i've been very clear about that for many, many years and renew that commitment here today . renew that commitment here today. and the wider eu reset. >> in other news, a royal navy serviceman who was killed when a helicopter made a deliberate emergency landing over the channel on wednesday has been named as lieutenant rhodri leyshon. three people were on board the merlin mk4 during a night exercise when it ditched off the dorset coastline, killing the 31 year old. a statement from rhodri's family described him as talented, passionate , strong and loyal. it passionate, strong and loyal. it also said we'll always have him in our hearts. our wonderful boy . in our hearts. our wonderful boy. police are searching for a

british man in majorca, in the same area where a british woman was found dead earlier this week, have found a body. the spanish civil guard have said they believe the pair had been swept away in a flash flood after a storm hit the mediterranean island on tuesday. emergency services have been searching the area near the mountains since wednesday . and mountains since wednesday. and later today , england will take later today, england will take on ireland in the uefa nations league. this will be the first test for england's interim manager, lee carsley, following gareth southgate stepping down after defeat in the euros final this summer. carsley has faced criticism after he said he won't sing the national anthem tonight, although the former ireland player says he is respectful of the concept. elsewhere in the competition, wales faced a goalless draw last night against turkey and on thursday night scotland lost three two to poland and northern ireland beat luxembourg two nil. and those are the latest gb news headlines. for now i'm tatiana sanchez. more in half an hour

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>> welcome back! if you just tuned in, where have you been? i know it's early. it's fine. 36 minutes after three. glad to have your company. i'm nana akua. this is gb news. we are the people's channel. but there's always something going on in the royal household. and this week has been no different. and every saturday i love to give you a rundown. and who better to do so than royal biographer angela levin? angela, welcome. really good to talk to you.so welcome. really good to talk to you. so it's been two years since the death of our late queen. >> yes, it's amazing, isn't it? it seems to have gone past very quickly, but also very slowly . quickly, but also very slowly. and, i remember that just before

she died, she was very, very unhappy and very much in pain . unhappy and very much in pain. but, prince charles, as he was then, made her come to the balcony to the jubilee because he said that there were loads and loads of people, and she thought that there would be against her, but they weren't. and she did get dressed in green, and she came along, and that made her very happy. it was very sweet. i think , as did the very sweet. i think, as did the dnnk very sweet. i think, as did the drink with the paddington bear tea, which she did despite feeling an enormous , enormous feeling an enormous, enormous pain. they both had , honey on pain. they both had, honey on their bread. she had her handbag and he spilt the cup and it was just very funny. it was one of the nicest things of the whole thing, and that was lovely. so it was a shame that the two people who did upset her very much was harry and meghan ringing her and being unkind, doing films and books that were

very unkind, and she'd lost her husband to nearly two years ago before. so she really sank after that because they'd been so close and you could see it happening. and i think it was very cruel because they knew that she had cancer of the bones. >> and do we know that they definitely knew. yes, yes, yes, because all the royal family were told about it well before . were told about it well before. >> they didn't leak it, but they did know it. and a little courtesy would have been accepted. well, i thought it was old age that she died of ultimately. no, no , it was ultimately. no, no, it was definitely that. yes, it was definitely that. yes, it was definitely that. yes, it was definitely that . and the old age definitely that. and the old age didn't help. i mean, my goodness , didn't help. i mean, my goodness, i think she just got very fed up with the whole thing. she couldn't manage it. well, you'd lose the will to live, suppose. >> in the end, all the horribleness that had happened over the last few years , over the last few years, especially the issues with harry and meghan, which really could not have helped at all. >> no, they didn't help her. she

was very, very unhappy and that's why, prince william, of course, is very annoyed. that's one of the reasons. but what's nice? an apology. yes, yes. you won't get it. >> how can you forget all of that? and what the pressure that would have put on the queen. and then they could still be demanding some sort of. >> but if you're only focusing on yourself, then that's very easy. you know, you wipe out other people's issues. but what's very nice is that there's going to be an enormous garden for the queen. that's going to be ready in 2026. i have some pictures on there. i hope you have them and on tuesday they put in 300 plants, 300 flowers to see that, to show what they're going to put. it would be free to go in there and it will be absolutely beautiful really, to see. >> that's lovely. so where will it be in saint john's wood, oh, so near saint james's park ?

so near saint james's park? >> yes. no, not near saint james's park. near, near swiss cottage and finchley central london, around central london. and it'll be absolutely, absolutely lovely. and they're trying an example of making these plants with earth and concrete. oh, it's lovely actually. there's a new way of doing it . doing it. >> we should do a video, you and me, angela. we should go and visit it. and do what? little thing for gb news. >> well, i'm the first one who's got it. i managed to find out about it and they sent me the pictures. no one else has got them. and i said that i'd like to follow it every so often to see how it's coming along without anybody else. and they said, actually, that is so exciting. thank you . so if you exciting. thank you. so if you want to come with me, i would love to. we'll do this . lovely. love to. we'll do this. lovely. these ones are not actually her favourite, the queen's favourite, the queen's favourite, because they want to test on what's going on, but it will be by 2026. >> now what about this story?

friends and those close to meghan have said that on her behalf that she regrets how she exhed behalf that she regrets how she exited the royal family. yes yes. how much credibility can we have? >> grazia magazine said she deeply regrets how she behaved towards the royals and she's she's very sorry about saying that they were racist now. >> wow, that's an actual admission. >> that's an actual admission. yes, in quotes. but i don't know if i believe it. and i couldn't get through to them to ask her to answer. they wouldn't answer that question. and but in any case, it's much too late, isn't it ? everybody's learnt that that it? everybody's learnt that that was nonsense. and it's not no longer listened to, but it was very, very cruel. and i think the queen had heard that was very painful for her, because the one thing she wasn't was racist in any way or any form. >> and obviously meghan isn't here to defend herself on that. and the magazine you couldn't

speak to confirm that that that is no true thing. but it is interesting that something like that. >> but what is true about meghan is that her trademark has been refused , they think it's been refused, they think it's been very carelessly done . and this very carelessly done. and this american riviera orchard , which american riviera orchard, which you like saying so much and i always i can't remember. she's not allowed to use that because a part of the area is that, and she can't own an area. of course . she can't own an area. of course. so, she's it's not accepted. so it's very interesting that they think it's been done very carelessly. and you'd think that when you want to do such a big deal when you want to do such a big deal, you start with doing that first, and then you send 50 jam jars away, but you don't do it before you've got everything sorted. >> do that . now, what about >> do that. now, what about this? this is a big story. i think harry being dropped out of the counsellors of state, which means for the first time, he can't actually take over paperwork or take over over a visit for the king, so he can't .

visit for the king, so he can't. >> this is absolutely true because it's up on the royal website and he dropped out of the counsellors of state, and they're the people who've been dropped. >> he didn't drop out. >> he didn't drop out. >> they dropped. no, no, no, they dropped him because they come in. if he would need papers signed or if you need something to be somewhere if they're not. well or they're out of the country. so far we've seen despite the king's illness and he's getting much better. the queen said yes. that, you know, he's not needed anybody. but this is true , and it's approved this is true, and it's approved by parliament. and that's it. now, the interesting thing is that beatrice has gone on at the last one. it's always to do with hierarchy. so they've done all the hierarchy, but no sign of harry. and this is i think their slow way of actually pushing him out because he wants to have a home here in windsor, and that would mean he could be a

counsellor of state, because you have to have a home in this country. but now, even if he gets it, he won't be on the list. this is very, very sad. it's very, very yes , quietly. it's very, very yes, quietly. they haven't said anything. they don't argue with him. they just get on. and a lot of them are very busy and doing all sorts of things, and they don't actually get too upset because i think you have to close your mind about it. and let's hope he'll learn his 14th and the 15th of september. so he should get a load of money from the late queen mother , and so perhaps queen mother, and so perhaps he'll be a nicer man. >> perhaps he can go away and just be quiet now. angela levin, thank you very much. really to good talk to you. right, next i'll be joined by ken hines , an i'll be joined by ken hines, an anti—knife campaigner in the great british debate this hour. and i'm asking if parents should be punished for their kids breaking the law

good afternoon, 48 minutes after 3:00. this is gb news. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua and it's digital radio. i'm nana akua and wsfime digital radio. i'm nana akua and it's time for the second great british debate this hour. and i'm asking, should parents be punished for the crimes of their children? and this is as gb news presenter camilla tominey writes in the telegraph, that feral children and their feckless parents are leaving the rest of us living in fear. parents are leaving the rest of us living in fear . she argues an us living in fear. she argues an undeniable rot has taken over the country since lockdown, with the country since lockdown, with the number of under 18 arrested for all offences rising by 9% in a year. and it's up by 16% since the beginning of the pandemic in 2020, with a 22% increase in arrests for violent crime . so arrests for violent crime. so what do you think? for the great british debate i'm asking, should parents be punished for the crimes of their children? and joining me now, anti—knife crime campaigner ken hines. ken,

welcome . all right. ken, what do welcome. all right. ken, what do you think to this? surely this is a good plan and nana, i've been working with children and their parents for many years and i'm in agreement that there is a minority of parents that should be punished for the acts of their children, but in the vast majority of cases, i find that the parents are reaching out to people like myself to actually help in trying to, to, talk to their children , to try to get their children, to try to get them to be better citizens. >> but personally, i it's like a losing, a losing position. i'm working from because we've got to work with the schools, has got to take responsibility . and got to take responsibility. and above all, society has got to take responsibility. because when we give, when we give children so many, so much, rights, but without teaching them about accountability and

responsibility is not surprising. we are where we are today. >> all right, ken hines, it's short and brief, but thank you for your thoughts. very much needed on the conversation. joining me now to discuss further, political commentator lin mei, who was my initial panel member. she was late. we'll take it out of your wages. and human rights campaigner peter tatchell. she thinks i'm joking. lin mei, i'll start with you, >> i do think, like the activist and campaigner said, i think there is a minority of parents that should be held accountable , that should be held accountable, as we were just discussing previously, the case in america where colin, the father , is now where colin, the father, is now being charged with second degree murder because his son shot four people in a school, two students and two teachers. and there was evidence there to show that he actually gave his son, that he gave him the gun . yes, exactly. gave him the gun. yes, exactly. and why on god's green earth would you give a 14 year old an ak 47 is beyond me. >> why this? why a 14 year old

or anyone should be allowed to own an ak 47? >> exactly, i think i think yes there are. if there are cases where parents have actively reached out to social services, reached out to social services, reached out to the police, i'm concerned about my child's behaviour then. no, because they're actively trying to do something, but if they're not and their their behaviour is akin to the violence that their child is exhibiting, then yes, they should be, held responsible. >> peter tatchell i think the principle of guilt by association is a very bad and dangerous one. >> really? >> really? >> yeah. parents should not be held responsible if they had no understanding, held responsible if they had no understanding , recognition or understanding, recognition or awareness of what their child was going to do . but if, for was going to do. but if, for example, they knew that their son had a zombie knife or a gun and failed to act, then of course they should be held responsible. >> but how do you? so, for example, my kids will never , example, my kids will never, ever have a zombie knife or anything like that because i'll be on them. i'll be the first person that they will have to deal with before they even step outside the door. my kids are incredibly well behaved and mummy doesn't take any nonsense

and they know that. so these parents are not doing their jobs and other people are suffering. why should they not be held to account? >> well, if a parent has a child who goes out and stabs someone and they had no knowledge of that stabbing or no knowledge of the person, the child had a knife. i don't think you can hold the parent responsible. >> what kind of what does that tell you about the kind of parent they are? >> well, some kids will hide their knives and their parents will not have any knowledge. well, it would be very wrong to hold a parent responsible, but if the parent knew they had a knife and failed to act, i think that's i think that's a part of the problem though. >> we're seeing a change in parenting style where when i used to come in from school and my if i even had something like a top on that didn't belong to me. where did you get that from? okay, let's see what's in your bag. have you got anything else that i didn't buy you for? you know, and there's that lack of real parenting to know what's in your children's rooms. of course. privacy. but i don't believe in complete privacy. >> you're under my roof. >> you're under my roof. >> i want to know what's going

on in your life. and we're seeing so many now. as soon as the kids come in from school, they go up in their room. they close the door. you know, that's not acceptable. >> i agree, parents need to take responsibility. yeah. you know, i had a very strict upbringing. exactly it's actually been to my benefit. i'd like to see it for other kids as well. as we heard, you know, we need responsibility as well as opportunity to do things right. >> peter tatchell in may, thank you very much. stay with me. next. my niggle niggle how the labour party have given out bumper pay rises, capitulating to the unions. they claim ending strikes. is this for the best? who's in charge of this country ? who's in charge of this country? is it the labour party or is it the trade unions ? that's my the trade unions? that's my nicholas on the way as ever. send me your thoughts, post your comments gbnews.com/yoursay. but first, let's get an update with your. first, let's get an update with your . weather. your. weather. >> a brighter outlook with boxt

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start to sunday across scotland. some low cloud though mist and murk across the north and east. some drizzle in there too. best of the sunshine across central and western areas. quite a cloudy start for northern ireland. too thick enough for some drizzle, but it is across england and wales where we've got heavy rain and thunderstorms . got heavy rain and thunderstorms. some potential disruption first thing, and some brightness across parts of east anglia and the south east. but here, as we go through the day, we'll see some thunderstorms developing some thunderstorms developing some longer spells of rain possible for parts of wales, the west country, as well. so do stay tuned to the forecast as we go through the next 24 hours, as there could be some disruption generally staying dry for northern ireland and scotland. temperatures here cooler than recent days 1718 celsius. best of the sunshine 22 or 23 celsius towards the east and southeast and then through into the evening time. those thunderstorms continue. they do also produce some heavy rain across southern and eastern parts of scotland. as we end the day, generally staying dry for northern ireland. the outlook is for it to generally remain

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>> good afternoon. it's just coming up to 4:00. this is gb news live on tv , online and on news live on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua and for the next few hours, me and my panel will be taking on some of the big topics hitting the headunes of the big topics hitting the headlines right now. this show is all about opinion. it's mine, it's theirs. and of course it's yours. we'll be debating, discussing and at times we will disagree, but no one will be cancelled . so joining me for the cancelled. so joining me for the next few hours, human rights campaigner peter tatchell look up peter and political commentator lin mei. coming up

in my niggle after agreeing to union demands for pay hikes for train drivers and doctors and claiming those with the broadest shoulders will carry the heaviest burden . heaviest burden. >> but i will be honest with you, there is a budget coming in october and it's going to be painful. we have no other choice given the situation that we're in. those with the broadest shoulders should bear the heavier burden from pensioners. >> keir starmer finds himself in a bit of a bind with the unions over the removal of pensioners winter fuel payments, so who is running the labour party? unelected union bosses or elected prime minister sir keir starmer in the interview at 23, big brother winner anthony hutton's life changed for good, taking home a whopping £50,000 prize with his cheeky, charming personality, he captivated viewers. but all that glitters isn't gold and anthony found himself down a dark path of drugs and alcohol. he'll be here

to tell us his story and what have the home office got to hide? as a watchdog has ruled that the cost of furnishing flats for asylum seekers cannot be released because the issue is too sensitive . surely the public too sensitive. surely the public should know what their money is being spent on, and a young man finds himself in what looks like a tidal sewer. but what happens next? before we get started, let's get your latest news with tatiana sanchez . tatiana sanchez. >> nana, thank you very much. and good afternoon. the top stories. sir keir starmer has been meeting with his irish counterpart, simon harris, as part of a commitment to reset relations between the uk and ireland. the pair are in dublin this afternoon and have been sitting down with business leaders from across the country. it's expected that trade across the irish sea will be top of their agenda, with that relationship worth an estimated ,100 billion every year, as well

relationship worth an estimated thousandsn every year, as well relationship worth an estimated thousands of very year, as well relationship worth an estimated thousands of jobs. (ear, as well as supporting thousands of jobs. >> it's a pleasure to be here, to have this opportunity which we will take to renew the friendship between our countries . friendship between our countries. that reset, i think, can be meaningful. it can be deep, and of course, it covers the relationship between our two countries. obviously it has to cover the good friday agreement, and i take very seriously our joint role in relation to that. and i've been very clear about that for many, many years and renew that commitment here today. and the wider eu reset . today. and the wider eu reset. >> police searching for a british man in majorca, in the same area where a british woman was found dead earlier this week, have found a body. the spanish civil guard have said they believe the pair had been swept away in a flash flood after a storm hit the mediterranean island on tuesday. emergency services have been searching the area since wednesday after they rescued ten hikers and recovered the body of

a 26 year old woman. meanwhile, the prime minister has paid tribute to the legacy and devotion of the late queen elizabeth ii . ahead of the two elizabeth ii. ahead of the two year anniversary of her death tomorrow, sir keir has said a new memorial, which will stand at saint james's park in london, will give people a place to honour the late queen and connect with the shared history we cherish. britain's longest reigning monarch passed away peacefully on the 8th of september, two years ago at balmoral castle . in other news, balmoral castle. in other news, a royal navy serviceman who was killed when a helicopter made a deliberate emergency landing over the channel on wednesday has been named as lieutenant rhodn has been named as lieutenant rhodri leyshon. three people were on board the merlin mk4 dunng were on board the merlin mk4 during a night exercise when it ditched off the dorset coastline , ditched off the dorset coastline, killing the 31 year old. a statement from rhodri's family described him as talented, passionate , strong and loyal . passionate, strong and loyal. the snp has called on the prime minister to u—turn on plans to

cut winter fuel payments. research has shown that close to a million pensioners in scotland received the payments between 2022 and last year , but under 2022 and last year, but under new plans by the labour government, 87% of those would lose that financial support. more heavy rain is expected across the uk today, with many still at risk of flooding. the met office has said a new band of heavy and thundery rain will arrive on the south coast today and will make its way north overnight. it says some places could see up to 100mm of rain, and there was a risk of power cuts and flooding and cause difficult driving conditions . in difficult driving conditions. in sport, britain's jack draper has crashed out of the us tennis open after being sick four times dunng open after being sick four times during his semi—final. the british number one had hoped to emulate the likes of andy murray and emma raducanu by taking the title, but he was ultimately beaten by jannik sinner. draper cited issues with anxiety as the reason for his exit from the

competition, describing it as the worst feeling ever. >> i had chances here and there and i didn't take them and obviously when you play the best players in the world, you need to do that. and yeah, i obviously wasn't wasn't feeling my best and struggled. at certain certain periods of the match, especially towards the end. but you know, yannick, yannick beat me fair and square. he was too strong for me today. >> and in just over an hour or so's time, england will take on ireland in the uefa nations league . and this will be the league. and this will be the first test for england's interim manager , lee carsley, following manager, lee carsley, following gareth southgate stepping down after defeat in the euros final this summer. carsley has faced criticism after he said he won't sing the national anthem tonight, although the former ireland player says he is respectful of the concept. elsewhere in the competition, wales faced a goalless draw last night against turkey and on thursday night scotland suffered a32 defeat to poland, whilst northern ireland beat luxembourg two nil. and it's been another

brilliant day for team gb so far at the paralympics. we started the morning on 100 medals and that number has now grown. once again, with a further three golds, two silvers and two bronze for the british team, including a win for finley graham in the men's c1 three road race. and those are the latest headlines for now. i'm tatiana sanchez . more from me in tatiana sanchez. more from me in half an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code , alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . slash alerts. >> thank you tatiana. it's fast approaching eight minutes after 4:00. this is gb news we are live on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua. the problem for sir keir starmer is the problem. the labour party has always had. the unions are in charge. before the election, labour convinced the electorate

that things could only get better. remember rishi sunak standing in the rain? an image i'm sure most haunt him. dreams. things can only get better in the background. tony blair's campaign track in 1997, when labour actually got into office, it became things would only get better , would get worse before better, would get worse before they got better, and that those with the broadest shoulders will carry the heaviest burden . carry the heaviest burden. really. so why target pensioners? why remove their winter fuel allowance? 10 million pensioners will lose up to £300. and that includes those with an income of just 13,000 k. so far, keir starmer, the labour party, have given out bumper pay rises, capitulating to the unions claiming ending strikes would get the country moving again. transport secretary louise haigh approved a 14.25% pay louise haigh approved a 14.25% pay deal for train drivers over three years, without any concessions on reforming and modernising the system. she just handed out the cash, which meant

that for many, their basic pay went from 60 k to 69 priti broad shoulders junior doctors were offered a rise of 22% on average over two years. inadvertently incentivising other trade unions to make demands too. who's next? while salaries in these industries may not have kept up with inflation, nobody's salary has kept up with inflation. inflation was in double figures in the private sector. you'd be told to take a running jump making those sort of demands. but pensioners who have worked all their lives now at the latest stage, most don't work and many can't. how have they got the broadest shoulders ? got the broadest shoulders? those with the broadest shoulders will carry the heaviest burden . that's what heaviest burden. that's what keir starmer said. >> but i will be honest with you, there is a budget coming in october and it's going to be painful. we have no other choice given the situation that we're in. those with the broadest

shoulders should bear the heavier burden. >> yeah, yeah , yeah. i mean, >> yeah, yeah, yeah. i mean, listen, they keep banging on about a black hole. well let's be clear. part of that black hole funding gap is due to the very generous settlements that they've given to the unions. the unions are major donors to the labour party. and that is, of course, how the party began. so it should come as no surprise that they were satisfied. first. but the problem for labour comes with history. and history has taught us that the unions, when the unions take over the unions, are turning on sir keir starmer. three trade unions, in fact unite, usdaw and the pcs. that's the union that represents civil servants, are calling for labour to change course. they're demanding that keir restores the winter fuel allowance for all pensioners . winter fuel allowance for all pensioners. miss winter fuel allowance for all pensioners . miss heathcoat, the pensioners. miss heathcoat, the most senior figure of the pcs, said we deal first hand with pensioners in receipt of winter fuel payments. we know how much they rely on them . if you take

they rely on them. if you take those payments away, people will have to make really hard decisions about heating their homes and eating exactly. and in pmqs, rishi sunak accused sir keir starmer of choosing well—paid rail staff while stripping the winter fuel allowance from pensioners. >> a government is about making choices and the new prime minister has made a choice. he has chosen to take the winter fuel allowance away from low income pensioners and give that to money certain unionised workforces in inflation busting pay workforces in inflation busting pay rises. so can i just ask the prime minister why did he choose train drivers over britain's vulnerable pensioners ? vulnerable pensioners? >> mr speaker, this government was elected to clear up the mess left by the party opposite and to bring about the change that the country desperately needs . the country desperately needs. >> yes, but those with the broadest shoulders, you said, would carry the heaviest burden. whilst keir and his fellow mps

like rachel reeves, who arrogantly announced the winter fuel policy without the necessary consultation and she even doubled down, they may think that they have a carte blanche to run roughshod with their 158 seat majority, but the unions are their real masters on winter fuel. on that allowance and on this matter, i actually agree with the unions. those with the broadest shoulders should carry the heaviest burden andifs should carry the heaviest burden and it's not pensioners. the question is, though , who is question is, though, who is running the show? the unelected union bosses or keir starmer and his elected . party? i do lack a his elected. party? i do lack a bit of a ramble, but before we get stuck into the debate, here's what else is coming up today. calls to sack england's new manager as he rules out signing and singing the national anthem. sorry. at today's friendly against the republic of ireland, lee carsley admits that he struggles with singing god save the king after playing football for ireland dozens of times. so for the great british debate this year, i'm asking what? and also coming up, what does the home office have to

hide? a watchdog has ruled the cost of furnishing asylum seeker flats is too sensitive to be released. but what are they hiding then in the pulse? have you ever wondered what it's like to have transparent skin? well no, i don't think i've ever wondered about that. but new research by scientists may have a temporary, transparent substance which will allow us to see our organs and how they function, and could ozempic sza weight loss pills within two years, help the nation get back into shape. should sir keir starmer, sir ian mckellen be stripped of his knighthood? with the anniversary of the queen's death taking place tomorrow after, what do you think? anyway, that's all coming up in clickbait. a young man finds himself in what looks like a tidal sewer. but what happens next? that's coming up in the next? that's coming up in the next hour. tell me what you think on everything we're discussing. post your comments. tell us your thoughts at gbnews.com/yoursay . right. let's gbnews.com/yoursay. right. let's get started. let's welcome again

to my panel political commentator. i hope you understood that. i didn't know what any of that meant. i didn't read it. i didn't write it. heads will roll. lin mei, thank you very much. and also human rights campaigner peter tatchell. right. so let's talk the labour party, who's who's in charge of the labour party. now, i don't disagree with the unions here. they are right. because in particular the pc as they look after civil servants, they know civil servants who will run the pensions and so on. they know the troubles that pensioners are going through. >> yeah, it's absolutely diabolical that labour talks about you know, change, looking after the people who are in difficulty and then whacks this decision to deprive poorer pensioners of the winter fuel allowance, now look , when it allowance, now look, when it comes to who runs the labour party, it's clear the labour party, it's clear the labour party runs itself. and i think the allegations about the unions is a bit much because, you know , is a bit much because, you know, the conservatives are run by or

funded by investment bankers. racist. it bosses. oh, that's hedge fund hedge fund managers and so on. they've produced all this funding for the tories. you know the amount the unions give is very small. it's a voluntary donation by their members. they just si king to look after themselves. the real issue is we can plug the deficit, the black hole with something, with something else. and the simple solution is a 2% tax on people with more than £10 million in assets would raise a staggering £24 billion. you have a complete completely cover the black hole. >> lovely. but they're all running away. no, they're not. there they are. they are there. and in fact, they are. they are. this is the thing. the figures we have. no no, no. >> the figures we have, which figures? >> well, which figures from spain and the scandinavian countries, when they when they impose wealth taxes, the number of people who left the country was 0.01. >> but they're already leaving tiny peter. >> those are in another country. do the figures in this country

and you'll find that they actually are leaving. so it's all very convenient using figures from a scandinavian country. why don't you use the ones from this country? they are leaving. >> we've already seen an exodus of millionaires leaving already, and the amount of millionaires that have already said that they're going to leave if there are these harsh, tax imposed , are these harsh, tax imposed, according to them, they can leave. the problem is we will not be able to dictate to them because the wealthiest in society are the ones that can live freely wherever they want, and the ones millionaires they pay a and the ones millionaires they pay a lot already, they pay a lot in vat , and if they go, then lot in vat, and if they go, then the middle class that are not that wealthy, even though people are going to have to fit the bill. but i completely agree with you that the winter fuel the pensioners, he said. in his speech. keir starmer said it's those with the broadest shoulders . pensioners clearly do shoulders. pensioners clearly do not have the broadest shoulders as you said, nana. they've worked hard all their life and i've spoken to so many of them, i've spoken to so many of them, i've listened to so many of them and they've they feel really, really betrayed. so i would, i wouldn't be surprised if the

labour party out of it very quickly. >> i mean , what would they what >> i mean, what would they what on earth was he thinking ? and on earth was he thinking? and listen, i don't i the reason i ask who's in charge of the labour party is because the first thing they did was give the unions, you know, stop all the unions, you know, stop all the strikes and give a load of money to the unions and other unions are now thinking about striking and hopefully they're looking, hoping to get more money. but then now the unions have come out and said, look, keir starmer, we're not going to we're not supporting this. so that's i'm glad they've come out for this . but it does show you for this. but it does show you that the labour party, whilst he might have 158 seat majority, those unions have a lot of power. you say they don't. it's a small amount of money, but you know they contribute, but they have a lot of power. >> well, clearly they're clear. the unions haven't got power. well they have because keir starmer is saying he's going to stick to this decision about the winter fuel. >> well the vote will say otherwise. the vote they're having a vote on tuesday. and let's see some of his own mps. let's see what they what happens, but yeah, i just think this was a poor decision. i do think that the unions have more power than we are suggesting . power than we are suggesting. and for the simple fact, let's look at train drivers already.

the majority are on 60,000. that's more than a lot of public sector workers, private sector workers. the average salary in this country is around 34,000. so for them to be bumped up to almost 70,000, how is that even fair? >> they clearly have some of the broader shoulders. these broader shoulders that they were talking about. i'm presuming it's people who are paying a lot of the higher rate of tax, and those on 69,000 will be in that remit. so they will be you're giving them they'll be in the top 10% to take money from them in tax, which is all very well. but at the end of the day you're also taking from pensioners. it doesn't make sense i agree. >> absolutely. those with the broadest shoulders should bear a fairer burden and the broadest shoulders are people with more than £10 million in assets, or the 171 billionaires in britain , the 171 billionaires in britain, all of whom whose wealth is increasing at between 5 and 10% every year. so to pay an extra 1 or 2%, they won't lose anything they just won't gain as much as they just won't gain as much as they would have without that tax. they can afford it. >> all right. well, you say that

they're leaving. they aren't leaving. i take the leaving . leaving. i take the leaving. >> to paraphrase spider—man, those with greatest wealth have greatest responsibility. yeah. >> and that's all very well. but they are leaving. they're not tolerating this. they don't. >> where's the evidence of them leaving? >> there is actually. i'll find you. there's a bit of research, actually, that shows. and that's in this country. >> i haven't seen that research. >> i haven't seen that research. >> i'd be happy that came out today. so we'll furnish you with that. but let's i want to talk about this because obviously the football match is coming up later on. and joining me football writer harry harris , football writer harry harris, who was in dublin 29 years ago when these two teams met, with the game being abandoned after 29 minutes. listen what do you think of the england manager not wanting to sing the national anthem? is it just a storm in a teacup ? we're being silly. teacup? we're being silly. >> no, i think it, has split opinion and has offended a lot of people, you'd want your engush of people, you'd want your english coach to be singing the national anthem, clearly. but really, what we do want is a coach who can actually get a song out of the team and get a

winning team. >> that's most important. but, you know, we've had foreign coaches, capello said, no, i'm italian . i'm coaches, capello said, no, i'm italian. i'm not singing the national anthem. poor old sven. passed away recently. he tried his best to sing it, but he found it very tough to get, get round the words, we obviously clearly ideally want an english coach. we want him to stand up and sing the national anthem. but this guy played 30 times for ireland in the england team. we've got a couple of irish players. i mean we have diversity now in this country and we have a blurred vision about what is actually english and what is irish and what is everything else. so is it really that important? is the national anthem still relevant, is it an archaic relic of the past? should fifa abandon all national anthems because it can evoke violence, it can evoke trouble, rival fans booed a national anthem. is it worth having ? anthem. is it worth having? >> is it worth having? good question. we'll leave it on that bombshell. harry harris, thank you very much. lovely to talk to

you very much. lovely to talk to you . that is harry harris. he's you. that is harry harris. he's a football writer. what do you think, though? this is gb news. we're live on tv , online and on we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua . digital radio. i'm nana akua. next it's time for the great british debate. this round. i'm asking, what does the home office have to hide

good afternoon. coming up to 24 minutes after 4:00. this is gb news. we are britain's news channel. i'm nana akua and it's time now for the great british debate. this hour i'm asking, what are the home office have to hide? questions are being raised about the home office's decision to withhold the cost of furnishing flats for asylum seekers. now, the information commissioner supported the home office's refusal, citing concerns about the health and safety of vulnerable individuals. doesn't really make any sense. however critics, including mp lee anderson, argued that taxpayers have the

right to know how their money is being spent and claim that the government is embarrassed by the high costs involved . now, the high costs involved. now, the home office justified the decision, pointing out to the potential risks of public protests and backlash that have previously targeted asylum seekers. but surely we have to know where the money is going. so for the great british debate this year , i'm asking what are this year, i'm asking what are the home office have to hide? well joining me now, political commentator lin mei and also human rights campaigner peter tatchell. lin mei, i'm going to start with you on this. look, it's a bit. do you think that the home office have a point that if we know how much they're spending, people might get a little bit angry? >> people will get angry. but it just goes to show that they shouldn't be spending this amount. whether i work in housing and i work with british people every day that pay taxes, that struggle to, you know , make that struggle to, you know, make ends meet, they struggle to furnish their homes, they struggle to pay their rent. and here we're seeing and the governments , no government seem governments, no government seem to be listening. immigration has always been really high on people's agenda when it comes to

the vote. so i think this is it just highlights them. withholding the information is a big enough thing to let us know that it's high amounts that they're paying, and it's costing they're paying, and it's costing the taxpayer so much. and of course, we've got a right to be angry. >> it's like when i say to my daughter, what's in the bag? oh no, no, no, nothing. oh yeah. nothing nothing. she knows that what's in the bag is not a good thing in the bag. and she just wanted to show me the bag because she knows mummy will be angry. and this sounds very similar. peter tatchell. am wrong? >> in principle, the public does have a right to know. we should be able to know how much the government is spending on asylum seeker accommodation, but in this case it was an attempt to identify a particular hostel in hampshire , which could have hampshire, which could have easily been a target for far right extremists who, like in the previous riots, may have attempted to attack the hostel dwellers and even burn the place down. so on public safety grounds, that was the right decision to withhold that information. but the big issue there was a way in which the

british public doesn't have to pay a british public doesn't have to pay a penny. the problem is that currently the home office bans asylum seekers from getting a job and supporting themselves. they want to work, but they're banned. if they were able to work, they could pay for their own accommodation , they'd pay own accommodation, they'd pay tax, they'd pay national insurance and they contribute to the economy. and then that's the way to solve the high cost of asylum. >> but there will be more of them . there'll be more of them. them. there'll be more of them. it's another draw. >> i also think it's a very negative message that sends out there. yes the channels of being able to come into the country have been minimised. however, those who come in on the boats are not coming in in the correct channels. so if we now grant them the ability to live like all of us who have legally here, i wasn't born here. my parents did the right thing in terms of how i was naturalised to come into this country like themselves. so that sends out a very bad message that they can just come in here. it also sends out a bad message to the gangs where they are saying , you know,

where they are saying, you know, as soon as you get there, you're going to get a job, you're going to be able to live like any other british citizen. how can that be a positive? >> they would not have a right to permanent residence. they would have a right to work. while their asylum claim is being assessed. we don't know who they are though, and if it was found that they were unlawful, illegal immigrants with no case, they would they would then be deported. >> peter, where would they work though? because as we don't know enough about them, that's why they're waiting to see if they qualify. what if they have had crimes in their country? should they work with children? should they work with children? should they work with young people , women? >> well, they would be assessed, obviously. >> we don't know though . >> we don't know though. >> we don't know though. >> that's why there would be an assessment. and of course, when , assessment. and of course, when, when, when would the assessment letting them work would enable tabs to be kept upon them ? tabs to be kept upon them? >> when will the assessment be? >> when will the assessment be? >> well, when they come in, of course they should initially. if they're coming in illegally , they're coming in illegally, they're coming in illegally, they should be detained. they should be in a there should be an assessment there. and then if they have no criminal record in their background, then they should be allowed to work .

should be allowed to work. that's the process. >> that is the process. that is the process. >> it's taking a long time. >> it's taking a long time. >> is the processing process the what's taking the time is to assess whether they have a legitimate claim for asylum. >> that's a separate issue, but it's all part of it, isn't it? so no safety check is one thing that's quite simple, but but no, it's not though is it? >> because it's not that simple? because working out whether someone is safe , you've got to someone is safe, you've got to look through all their records and everything else like that. i presume when you're working out whether they're safe, you'll also do the rest of the checks as well. so it doesn't really make sense that you'd have two sets of checks. somebody comes in, you should do it all, and then you determine whether they're allowed to do all those things. why should they be allowed to work before that? >> it won't be quick, peter, like myself, for example, i work in housing. whenever i change an organisation, i have to undergo a an enhanced dbs. i'm a british citizen. i've been here since i was maybe a year. it can take me up to three months. so someone who's already here, they know all about me. you're saying it's just going to happen quickly? it's not. it's not realistic. >> well, put it this way. i've helped many genuine refugees get asylum. they have to wait.

sometimes a year, two years, even five years. while the government pay for their housing, their benefits and everything. that was a complete waste because nearly all those refugees had skills that britain needed. things like doctors, dentists , plumbers, carpenters, dentists, plumbers, carpenters, they would have been an asset to they would have been an asset to the economy if they were allowed to work. but you're not madness. madness to pay for their housing, madness to give them benefits when they're willing to work and can contribute to the economy, pay tax and national insurance. but you're not addressing the underlying point that lin mei has made, which is that lin mei has made, which is that if you do that, then you are disincentivizing people who are disincentivizing people who are really valuable, honest people who've come to this country, not via a dinghy or by illegal means. >> you're disincentivizing them. you're also incentivising the gangs who can send that message to people, come and get a job or come and get a job. you get a job as soon as you get it. peter, would you only be temporary? >> would you want only be temporary? would you want a doctor to administer to yourself without undergoing the necessary

conversion? by our standards here, the necessary training, we're not talking, you know, one month get into a job. we're still talking minimum six months to a year. and in that six months to a year, we're still going to have to pay millions for their accommodation. so we're back at square one. >> but we get a solution after six months to a year, rather than waiting at government expense, public expense for three, five or more years . three, five or more years. that's madness. but but there's got to be a speeded up process. we need more asylum adjudicators. but it's true. >> but isn't isn't it even more crazy to allow people who you don't really know to be working in environments that you can't control? it could be around young people. it could be around vulnerable people. it could be around anyone. and yet they may turn out once you've done your research, that they have a criminal record for murdering children . children. >> ellie glaisyer everybody who arrives in this country , illegal arrives in this country, illegal or lawful, has to undergo vetting by the home office. that's done. that's done quite quickly. and those who don't

meet the criterion are put in asylum accommodation. how quickly you're saying quite quickly, pretty quickly is that in asylum detention quite quickly . quickly. >> what is your definition of quite quickly? >> sometimes it can be a month or two months, sometimes in extreme cases, yes, six months. but it's better that after that six months, once they've been vetted, that they work and pay for themselves. well, that depends not the taxpayer. >> that depends. if you become a victim of these some of these people. and i'm not to say that all migrants are bad people. most of them are probably very, very good. but the fact is you don't know, do you? so to give them an ability to work and do all those things will incentivise others and also you know nothing about them. but listen, the home office responded to the claim saying whilst the commissioner appreciates the public interest in the cost of providing accommodation used to accommodate asylum seekers, in his view this is outweighed by the home office neither confirming nor denying whether it holds any information falling within the scope of this request. well, that feels like a bit of a word salad, but that's what the statement they gave us 32 minutes after 4:00. you're

with me. i'm nana akua . we're with me. i'm nana akua. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. no, we didn't write that coming up. it's the pulse and could we see a ozempic star? weight loss pills within two years? and could they potentially do other things than just weight loss? but first, let's get your latest news headunes let's get your latest news headlines with tatiana sanchez . headlines with tatiana sanchez. >> nana. thank you and good afternoon. the top stories. sir keir starmer has met with his irish counterpart as part of a commitment to reset relations between the uk and ireland. they say coordination on security policy will be among the priorities of planned annual uk, ireland summits. the prime minister and irish premier , minister and irish premier, simon harris, agreed the terms of the leader level meetings as they held talks in dublin this afternoon . the annual summits afternoon. the annual summits will focus on several key areas such as security, justice and global issues , climate and global issues, climate and energy, technology and innovation , growth, trade and innovation, growth, trade and more. a joint statement said

their meeting marked the start of an ambitious programme towards a renewed and strengthened partnership. the first meeting will be held in march. in other news, a royal navy serviceman who was killed when a helicopter made a deliberate emergency landing over the english channel on wednesday has been named as lieutenant rhodri leyshon. three people were on board the merlin mk4 during a night exercise when it ditched off the dorset coastline, killing the 31 year old. a statement from rhodri's family described him as talented, passionate, strong and loyal . police searching for loyal. police searching for a british man in majorca, in the same area where a british woman was found dead earlier this week, have found a body. the spanish civil guard have said they believe the pair had been swept away in a flash flood after a storm hit the mediterranean island on tuesday. emergency services have been searching the area near the tramuntana mountains since wednesday , and in around an wednesday, and in around an

hours wednesday, and in around an hour's time, england will take on ireland in the uefa nations league. this will be the first test for england's interim manager, lee carsley, following gareth southgate stepping down after defeat in the euros final this summer. carsley has faced criticism after he said he won't sing the national anthem tonight, although the former ireland player says he is respectful of the concept. elsewhere in the competition, wales faced a goalless draw last night against turkey and on thursday night scotland lost three two to poland and northern ireland beat luxembourg two nil. and those are the latest gb news headlines. for now i'm tatiana sanchez. more from me in half an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gb news. >> dot com. forward slash

>> good afternoon. 39 minutes after 4:00. if you've just tuned in, where have you been? no. welcome, welcome. nana raisi is here. nana akua. and this is g news. we are britain's news channel. it's time now for the pulse and researchers at stanford university have discovered that a common food dye can temporarily make skin, muscle and connective tissue transparent in living animals by applying the dye to areas such as a mouse's abdomen or scalp. with scientists clearly able to observe the internal organs and blood vessels. but could this be valuable for humans? also, we'll be chatting ozempic, but joining me now is pharmacist thorn govind. right. let's talk about this new discovery. what is this? this sounds amazing . this? this sounds amazing. >> well, the stanford university, they've done some research and they found this common food dye. >> and this is used in some ingredients, some tortilla chips and also in a very well known

orange food drink. and what they've done is they've got a paste of this, this food dye, and then they've rubbed it on the bellies of mice, the then that, then makes the blood vessels easier to see. it turns the skin. i'm going to say i'm going to say translucent rather than transparent because it's not completely that you can see everything, but that means that they can. they're doing a lot more tests, and there's a long way to go. but if you think about cancer treatment at the moment, you know you have to go for a biopsy. it's really unpleasant. it can take a lot of time. we've got nhs backlogs, so it might take you time to get that biopsy. so this has the potential to speed up the ability to find issues. potential to speed up the ability to find issues . and i ability to find issues. and i don't know about you. have you ever been to get your book. they've had to draw out blood. have you ever had that. >> but but my question is how dark are these rats? well, because if you're really dark, like me, although i'm the lightest in my family, i will add not my immediate family, but my brothers and sisters . but if my brothers and sisters. but if you're really dark, it's not

going to turn my skin really light . so you can see you'll light. so you can see you'll just be that the brown is now translucent, so you'll be. >> so they've got to look at the dosing. because the other point to mention about this is some humans can be allergic to this. so they've got to make sure that they've got the dose of this right. and it won't be available for everyone. but ultimately we're still in the rat stage here. we're still looking at how it's dealt with in in animals. it's a little while to go before we're going to be able to use it in humans. >> well, that's great though, when we find simple things that we've been using over a period of time that actually have another function that could be really useful for us without doing very much. >> yeah, absolutely. >> yeah, absolutely. >> but i hear as well, at the end of the trial, they killed these rats or something, which is very sad . is very sad. >> well, they do use, you know, they have to use mice. they have to use some of these animals. unfortunately, in trials . and unfortunately, in trials. and that's not unusual. but i think obviously there's a lot more ethics now around using animals in, in trials , as you know, in, in trials, as you know, although i say that and have a little mouse trap , i shouldn't little mouse trap, i shouldn't say i know, i know, it's

terrible. >> but anyway, look . so moving >> but anyway, look. so moving on ozempic. now normally you would inject ozempic, but now it could potentially be in a pill form. >> yeah, they've got quite a number of drugs in trials at the moment in oral form, which, you know, some people might not like using an injection, but this could change the game really when it comes to weight loss and but what i would say is that cautionary approach , because i cautionary approach, because i think people have got quite excited about semaglutide, which is the ingredient in in ozempic and in wegovy. so the only so wegovy is what we use for weight loss. it's that's the brand name. and then ozempic is for diabetes. right. and what we need to be really careful of is we don't get too excited because we've got to wait to see how these develop in clinical trials. but i've been i've been keeping an eye on those drug companies that are developing these drugs. >> i would be saying, oh yeah, they want to develop that really fast because the quicker they can do it, fast because the quicker they can do it , the more likely it is can do it, the more likely it is that they can then start selling it and if they can sell it, they can make a lot of money, because

obviously that sort of drug is very popular with people who have been fighting a losing battle with their weight for many years. yeah. >> so they're in phase three trials at the moment. they're looking at the safety and efficacy of them. i think 26, 2027, late 2026. there's going to be a lot of these drugs potentially coming on the market. so not long. >> and is there any truth to so some of the other things that we hear about ozempic or semaglutide, the thing that's inside it is that it can help with, you know, cardiovascular issues, arthritis, they're coming out with all this . is it coming out with all this. is it not just simply the fact that you've lost a load of weight. so therefore you are less susceptible? or is there some other thing ? other thing? >> okay. so i mean, obesity is costing the nhs billions each yeah costing the nhs billions each year. i think the fact is that it will have some benefits. losing weight. there's still a lot of research to be done though in in those other conditions. so the what they're saying now is it could impact our biological ageing basically. so there's still work to be done on that. but i think we still need to be doing the exercise. we were just talking about our

favourite forms of exercise, weren't we? i mean, i love i love a zumba class. >> i used to teach zumba. did you?! >> i used to teach zumba. did you? i still do it every now and again on my facebook when i was when i was in covid and everything. so i did zumba. so i'm a zumba instructor, but i love hot yoga, that's what. >> yeah, exactly. whereas i like i like a high intensity class. so maybe i need to do a high intensity intensity. and then we'll do some yoga later to be fair, yoga is muscular strength and endurance , which is the type and endurance, which is the type of thing that burns fat when you're resting. >> so it's actually slightly harder than cardiovascular exercise. but cardiovascular, heart and lungs very good. >> you see you've got to do a mix i think mix keep the break. keep the brain surprised as well. i think do doing different forms of exercise is always good. all right . good. all right. >> thorin covid, thank you very much. really good to talk to you. she's a pharmacist. here's her thoughts. what are yours ? her thoughts. what are yours? gbnews.com/yoursay. i will read some of those comments in just a moment. but you're with me. i'm nana akua. this is gb news. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. coming up in the next hour, our great british debate. and i'm asking, why is

labour mp jaz archewell still knocking around ?

47 minutes after 4:00 this is gb news. we are britain's news channel. i'm nana akua now . channel. i'm nana akua now. before we get started, the next images come with a flash warning. so it's time for the great british debate this out. i'm asking should sir ian mckellen be stripped of his knighthood now? sir ian mckellen has sparked controversy after accusing the late queen of being rude and quite mad in her final years. the acclaimed actor made the remarks in a recent interview , recalling an exchange interview, recalling an exchange with the queen during which he found her tone dismissive. some royal experts have suggested that if mr mckellen feels so slighted, he should consider giving back his knighthood. so

for the great british debate this hour, i'm asking should sir ian mckellen be stripped of his knighthood? or perhaps he should simply hand it back? political commentator liam and human rights campaigner peter tatchell join me to discuss peter tatchell. >> well , ian tatchell. >> well, ian mckellen said that when he received his knighthood, the queen made a dismissive, dismissive remark. >> does anybody still go to the theatre ? didn't praise him for theatre? didn't praise him for his years of acclaimed acting and his many awards, but made that throwaway remark, which i think was quite insulting. but he still kept the knighthood. well, the knighthood wasn't given by the queen. it was actually given by the state. the queen merely. but he does. >> but he could have. but but ultimately she. we know that. but obviously he could have said no , i don't want to be knighted no, i don't want to be knighted now. i don't want to be a part of this. this is what you're like. >> well, that happened the knighthood happened two decades ago or more . ago or more. >> but he could pass it back, though. i mean, if he's going to complain . complain. >> but it wasn't in her gift. she she was the ceremonial bestower. that was all. but i

think just going back to what she said, it does sound a bit off to not make any remark about. you've done a great job, well deserved . if it's true, well deserved. if it's true, say, does anyone go to the theatre? >> but why wait till she's no longer here to come up with this? this particular comment? because there's no one that can challenge him . challenge him. >> i'm going to have to agree with peter. i think, you know, it's like, let's give me i'll give you an example. let's say, for example, i received a degree at university, the university was horrible to me. the person who gave me the degree was horrible to me. i'm not going to give back my degree. i want my degree. >> but at what point would you complain to the university? would you wait till the university and professors were all no longer with us and complain? or would you not complain? or would you not complain at the very beginning when you hear this comment? well, you could you you could see this. >> you could see this as you know, on both sides. maybe he should have said it where she could defend herself. we all know that the queen is a figurehead that shouldn't be able to have the power to be able to have the power to be able to have the power to be able to speak against things. so i think he did it in a respectful way. when she's actually gone, well, so she can't defend herself. >> i don't think she wouldn't

defend herself, though she might do, or somebody or the palisades. >> it's not proper for the queen to have such opinions. yes she ho. 110. >> no. >> she may come outwith. recollections may vary which which which is brave with his . which which is brave with his. >> that would be from the palace, not her. >> well, yes, but but that would be ultimately from her if she didn't think. but what about freedom of speech? >> nana. that is freedom to do it when he wants nobody's saying that. >> but you question why if this is true, why he waits to the death of the person before he even says anything. maybe you're not happy with it. he could have said it ages ago. >> i think if he was prompted to make some remark. but that's aside. i think ian mckellen is a person of great honour and integrity. i don't think he's a treasure. i don't think he'd make something up. well, you and he and in releasing this information, you know, he did it just as a factual report. >> well, he should have maybe kept his mouth shut then, or perhaps hand back his knighthood. this show is nothing without you and your views, though. let's welcome our great british voices. their opportunity to be on the show and tell us what they think about the topics we're discussing. let's have a chat with john reid in kidderminster. so what do you think , john reid?

so what do you think, john reid? is it fair to be saying that almost feels like you're sort of speaking ill of the dead . she's speaking ill of the dead. she's not here to defend herself. why is he speaking up now? >> in my world, nana, sir ian mckellen should not be stripped of his knighthood for the very simple reason that, well, there's no reason to strip it. what he said has made himself look silly in the public space, i think. and it's done himself more harm than he's ever done. the queen and the queen is not even still alive. so yeah, we've got a system of knighthoods and etcetera in this country that is in many ways envied by the world. so i don't think he should be stripped of it. no. let sleeping dogs lie. leave him alone. just ignore what he's saying. he has no real value, does it? >> what about if he hands it back? then? if he thinks that of her and he's upset that she didn't ask him the right question. >> if he if he chooses to, that's entirely up to him, it would be his loss, wouldn't it? it would be some advantage to be called sir. ken. i would like to hear sir john read called sir. ken. i would like to hear sirjohn read one day. that would be lovely. i wouldn't be

handing mine back. >> well, i'd like to hear dame nana akua on that bombshell john reading kenneth minster. thank you very much. yeah. you see, i'm kind of with john in that. yes. obviously you all have free freedom of speech and say whatever you like, but at the end of the day, if you've been given an honour and you're not happy with the question or the way somebody said something when you were given that honour, she may have asked, do people still go to the theatre anymore? she may not know. she doesn't go to the theatre. she's the queen. >> does sound a bit off, but you know, if it's true, it's not actually , praise him for the actually, praise him for the great work he's done . great work he's done. >> so what's the knighthood then? why isn't the knighthood then? why isn't the knighthood the praise? why is it? can i just ask, isn't the knighthood the praise ? the praise? >> well, it's not her decision, but normally she does make some pleasing remark about the person. >> you're a hero. you rescued someone on the thames. you know, that kind of thing. you know , that kind of thing. you know, that's. that's what you normally expect, you know? fair enough . expect, you know? fair enough. she may have just had an off day and hold that against her, but the other issue is people with knighthoods have done far worse. what about the big corporate bosses who fleece pension funds,

who are pumping sewage into our rivers? they can still keep their knighthoods. they're much more deserving. have they of having their knighthood? knight taken away? >> well, listen, i'd agree with you. i don't see why they should have knighthoods. and in fact, i would find the water companies their entire value, and i'd buy them back for a pound and nationalise them. that's what i'd do. i don't believe they should be ever privatised because you can't really decide where your water comes from. you know, it's not really competitive thing, is it? so it's not really even open to competition. and also they've been fleecing the taxpayers and not investing back into the water business at all. peter tatchell in may, thank you very much. you're with me. i'm nana akua. this is gb news. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. next the interview. i'll be joined by winner of big brother six, anthony hutton , and we'll hear anthony hutton, and we'll hear his story as to what big brother, the impact it had on his life. but first, let's get your latest news with greg dewhurst . dewhurst. >> a brighter outlook with boxt

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gb news. >> good afternoon. this is coming up to 5:00. hello and welcome to gb news. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua and for the next few hours, me and my panel will be taking on some of the big topics hitting the headlines right now. this show is all about opinion. it's mine. it's theirs. and of course it's yours. we'll be debating and discussing and at times we will disagree, but no one will be cancelled. so joining me in the next hour, human rights campaigner peter tatchell and also political commentator lynne may. next, it's been revealed that ilford south mp jack

archewell has was renting out flats and infestations and black mould. he also hadn't paid certain licensing. it was his scheme as well. is he fit to be a labour mp? you know, the thoughts of a lawyer and where he stands legally next in the interview at 23, big brother winner anthony hutton's life changed for good, taking home a whopping £50,000 prize. cheeky, charming personality captivated viewers, but all that glitters is not gold and anthony found himself down a dark path of drugs and alcohol. he'll be live to tell us his story , and i'll to tell us his story, and i'll be testing my panel's knowledge on the big stories this week. coming up, though, in click bait, a young man finds himself in what looks like a tidal sewer. but what happens next? before we get started, let's get your latest news with tatiana sanchez. >> nana. thank you. the top stories. sir keir starmer has met with his irish counterpart

as part of a commitment to reset relations between the uk and ireland. they say coordination on security policy will be among the priorities of planned annual uk ireland summits. the prime minister and irish premier, simon harris, agreed the terms of the leader level meetings as they held talks today in dublin. the annual summits will focus on several key areas including security, justice and global issues, climate, energy, technology and innovation, growth, trade and more. a joint statement said their meeting marked the start of an ambitious programme towards a renewed and strengthened partnership. the first meeting will be held in march. >> today is very much about cementing the reset of relations between our two countries that we've talked about in the last eight or so weeks since i was able to form a government in the united kingdom, and today we've just had a really good session where we've been able to agree the themes. some of the

structures and the way that we'll take that forward , we'll take that forward, including a summit in march of next year and annual summits thereafter, all of which i think will provide a strong, stronger foundation for the very many issues on which we collaborate and cooperate for the benefit of both our countries . both our countries. >> in other news, police searching for a british man in majorca in the same area where a british woman was found dead earlier this week , have found earlier this week, have found a body. the spanish civil guard say they believe the pair had been swept away in a flash flood after a storm hit the mediterranean island on tuesday. emergency services have been searching the area since wednesday after they rescued ten hikers and recovered the body of a 26 year old woman. a royal navy serviceman who was killed when a helicopter made a deliberate emergency landing over the english channel on wednesday, has been named as lieutenant rhodri leyshon. three people were on board the merlin

mk4 during a night exercise when it ditched off the dorset coastline, killing the 31 year old. a statement from rhodri's family described him as talented, passionate, strong and loyal . in other news, the snp loyal. in other news, the snp has called on the prime minister to u—turn on plans to cut winter fuel payments. research has shown that close to a million pensioners in scotland received those payments between 2022 and last year, but under new plans by the labour government, 87% of those would lose that financial support . more heavy rain is support. more heavy rain is expected across the uk today, with many still at risk of flooding. the met office has said a new band of heavy and thundery rain will arrive on the south coast today, and will make its way north overnight. it says some places could see up to 100mm of rain, and there was a risk of power cuts and flooding and could cause some difficult driving conditions . the prime driving conditions. the prime minister has paid tribute to the

legacy and devotion of the late queen elizabeth ii, ahead of the two year anniversary of her death tomorrow. sir keir starmer said a new memorial, which will stand in saint james's park in london, will give people a place to honour the late queen and connect with the shared history we cherish. britain's longest reigning monarch passed away peacefully on the 8th of september, 2022 at balmoral castle . in sport, britains jack castle. in sport, britains jack draper has crashed out of the us open after being sick four times dunng open after being sick four times during his semi—final. the british number one had hoped to emulate the likes of andy murray and emma raducanu by taking the title, but was ultimately beaten by jannik sinner. draper cited issues with anxiety as the reason for his exit from the competition, describing it as the worst feeling ever . the worst feeling ever. >> had chances here and there and i didnt take them. and obviously when you play the best players in the world, you need

to do that and yeah, i obviously wasn't wasn't feeling my best and struggled, at certain certain periods of the match, especially towards the end. but you know, yannick, yannick beat me fair and square. he was he was too strong for me today. >> and england take on ireland in the uefa nations league. that game just about kicking off. and this will be the first test for england's interim manager, lee carsley , following gareth carsley, following gareth southgate stepping down after defeat in the euros final this summer. carsley has faced criticism after he said he won't sing the national anthem, although the former ireland player says he is respectful of the concept . and those are the the concept. and those are the latest gb news headlines for now. i'm tatiana sanchez more from me in half an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . slash alerts. >> thank you tatiana. this is gb news. i'm nana akua and for the

next hour, me and my panel will be taking on some of the big topics hitting the headlines right now. this show is all about opinion. it's mine. it's theirs. and of course it's yours. we'll be debating discussing and at times we will disagree, but no one will be cancelled. so joining me today, political commentator lin mei and also human rights campaigner peter tatchell. still to come, black mould and ant infested homes. now the labour landlord jaz athwal has sacked his property agent, london mayor sadiq khan has said action should be taken against bad landlords , regardless of whether landlords, regardless of whether they're labour mps or just ordinary people. in the interview , i'm joined by 2005 interview, i'm joined by 2005 big brother winner anthony hutton , who will be discussing hutton, who will be discussing how he shot to fame and the challenges that he's faced along the way. coming up in clip bb8 , the way. coming up in clip bb8, a young man finds himself in what looks like a tidal sewer. but what happens next that is coming up some of your thoughts. post your comments gbnews.com/yoursay . but first,

gbnews.com/yoursay. but first, london mayor sadiq khan has called for action against bad landlords as this comes as ilford south mp jaz athwal was renting out flats with ant infestations and black mould. now athwal, who introduced a property licensing scheme as redbndge property licensing scheme as redbridge council leader, admitted his own flats did not meet these standards. here he is now with prime minister sir keir starmer speaking alongside mr athwal back in 2021. >> i'm here at fairlop waters in redbndge >> i'm here at fairlop waters in redbridge with councillor jaz athwal, leader of redbridge council . it's been brilliant council. it's been brilliant just meeting residents and people around and seeing the great work that redbridge council has been doing . despite council has been doing. despite conservative cuts and despite the unimaginable challenges of the unimaginable challenges of the pandemic. redbridge council has brought labour values to life. they've been building building homes , libraries and

building homes, libraries and leisure centres . they've been leisure centres. they've been protecting our key services. >> so whilst he has apologised, thatis >> so whilst he has apologised, that is jaz athwal and sacked the agency managing the properties, there are growing calls for him to resign. >> joining me now, barrister and writer stephen barrett. stephen, thank you very much for joining me . so stephen, i want to ask me. so stephen, i want to ask you first. so jas archewell, you had about 15 properties. i think you had 15. seven of those 15 didn't have a licence. as i understand it. is he breaking a law because this was something that he introduced? is he actually breaking a law? >> well, i don't want to definitively say that he was or wasn't breaking a law. >> i don't want to insert myself, embroil myself in some legal mess. >> what i can say is that there are huge ream of laws that apply to landlords in order to stop them acting in a rogue capacity before coming on the show. >> as you would expect, i have read the government's advice on it. it's 88 pages and it's

directed at local councils because it's the council's job to enforce these laws against rogue landlords. and mr athwal ran his council. >> this is this is obviously important. >> and to show that i have no party political animus at all. i think the mayor of london is right. the mayor of london is a lawyer, and he's clearly standing up for the rule of law and saying that the rules apply to everyone, regardless of their political background. and that is a very important principle to hold to. if we move to a position where rules don't apply to people, if they belong to one party or another, i don't care which party it is. that will be a fundamental collapse in the rule of law. and that is a far darker thing for the country than even this. but i don't want to downplay this nana, because i don't know if you remember a couple of years ago there was an incredibly lovely little boy , incredibly lovely little boy, and he died because of black mould. and i was very i'm going to name drop. i'm going to i'm

because i was very proud of him. but i was very proud of the barrister christian weaver, who managed to convince the coroner that that and prove that he didn't manipulate the coroner. he got all the evidence and he put it all, and he proved that the black mould was the cause. black mould kills innocent little boys and innocent little girls. this is this is not unimportant. mr athwal, i understand it is one of the largest landlords in the house. we are told he has sacked his agency. but all we're told about the agency is that it's a man called raymond . i mean, nana and called raymond. i mean, nana and can i just say that if it was possible to just blame your staff, then does anybody remember that there were some parties in downing street that the civil service had ? and you the civil service had? and you all remember how we let boris johnson off that ? and that's why johnson off that? and that's why he's still prime minister. i mean, that just simply isn't what happens. you are responsible for your staff. you are responsible for what goes on, on, under your watch. and you know this labour mp at least

warrants investigation and his properties. you know, should, should, should be investigated. that we cannot simply sweep this under the carpet. we had an incident again a few weeks ago where, labour mp jess phillips said bragged about getting better treatment on the nhs because of who she was and because of who she was and because of who she was and because of her political views. that's outrageous as well, that that can't simply be ignored. if we're going to drift into a country where rules don't apply to you because you're a member of the labour party, well, then, i mean, i'm just going to keep saying that that's that's a breakdown in the rule of law. i'm going to sit in this library until i'm physically taken out of it, and i'm going to carry on saying it because it will be true. >> well, >> well, i >> well, i bucha >> well, i bucha archewell >> well, i bucha archewell he's apologised as did boris, for the parties. although boris lost everything pretty much in terms of his political career as a result of parties that many of which he didn't attend. but she has apologised and the labour party have gone very, very quiet about this. if it were me or

somebody else, this would apply to me. so what does that kind of say about the labour party? they haven't said anything about this. this has gone very quiet. the whip hasn't been removed. something needs to happen , surely. >> well, yes, something needs to happen. and i'll take you to the more important constitutional principle. nana. because i've been worried for a while that we've become a very infantile society. and actually our constitution works on the idea that we're actually all grown ups, and our constitution requires something of us. it often requires us. by the way, i was saying this to somebody yesterday. it requires us to volunteer. so it really needs us to sort of buckle up and get involved and roll up your sleeves as i've done today and, you know, get get your arm in and actually do something. but it also requires all of us purely as citizens to be grown ups. that means we can no longer listen to a 24 hour media narrative. we can no longer have the outrage of today, that

tomorrow we forget. that's how children's cartoons operate . and children's cartoons operate. and we cannot live like children's cartoons. we're going to have to remember from day to day the different outrages. you know, we're going to have to keep banging on about them . i'm quite banging on about them. i'm quite proud of you, nana that you that you wanted this story brought up, because i fear a lot of journalists would have said, oh, it's old hat now, and that we simply cannot live that way. if you want. if you live like that, you're living like children. and thatis you're living like children. and that is against what our constitution expects of us. it's expects us to be active grownups to go. hang on a second. this is a bit rum , we now don't go too a bit rum, we now don't go too far. so the other the other dangeris far. so the other the other danger is immediately implying that people are definitely guilty. finding them guilty, you know, by trial, by social media and getting carried away. one of my other bugbears is that if an investigation happens and i'm not talking about this specific case, but there are other cases involving labour politicians where there are pending actions, you must then stay quiet. that's what you must then do, because justice must be allowed to be done. everybody's entitled to

justice and we must. we must see that done too. that's also what i call part of being a grown up in our society. but i think we're going to have to remember how to be a grown up. i think we've spent many, many years, myself included, being self—indulgent. i mean, nanny, you could argue that my hair is self—indulgent, but you know , i self—indulgent, but you know, i allow us some small joys. but, in order for our constitution to function, in for order our society to function, rules must apply society to function, rules must apply to labour mps , just as apply to labour mps, just as they apply to conservative mps. outrage must apply to conservative mps and labour mps equally , justice must be done. equally, justice must be done. rules must be enforced. that's what we require. >> so what do they have in their arsenal as, punishments for this sort of breach are there? because there must be things. so, for example, if i'm a bad landlord, what is it that i could face? because if you don't have a licence, what punishment could you face? >> well, i adore you for asking me that question. so if everybody googles the road landlord enforcement by the government and then they'll get this document, and if they go to

page 25, it's all really conveniently set out for them in a chart. so there's powers under the housing act 2004, there's one, two, three, four, five, six powers under that act. there's one for the environmental protection act 1990. there's one under the energy performance of buildings england and wales act 20 2012. i actually think there's also one under a new act that came out last year that this isn't up to date with. no, i don't think it is. but there's another one and there's a power under 2025 regulations and a power under the 2016 planning act. we have built a society with lots and lots of law, actually , i argued yesterday, actually, i argued yesterday, and in some ways we do have too much law. but that what that means is we have lots of good laws that we could enforce if we want to. now it's for read. it's for the relevant council to enforce these. so we're going to have to trust this council which this gentleman just ran to, to investigate to and consider using its powers. now i want to live in a country where we can trust that council. steve, i

don't think i can say anything more than that. no, sorry. >> stephen barrett, thank you very much. it was really good to talk to you. thank you very much for all of that. that's very insightful indeed. that is barrister and writer stephen barrett. see, that's the thing. if you're going to give out these licenses and these laws, then surely as a, as an mp and also the councillor, because as stephen said, it was the council that were in charge of ensuring the licenses were taken up and jas athwal was the head of the council, there has to be some sort of action and obviously i don't know what should happen to him, but i my thoughts are that this is by—election territory, but lots of you have been in touch with your views. elizabeth says , regarding illegal says, regarding illegal migrants, because we were talking about what should be donein talking about what should be done in terms of processing. i've always said, how do you assess them without papers or passports? these people are not irregular, they're illegal and if there is not a serious crackdown on the situation this island, then it all will become out of our hands. the government

and previous ones have no idea how many of these people are on our island now . how many of these people are on our island now. i'm how many of these people are on our island now . i'm with you. our island now. i'm with you. they don't really know, do they? remember that time 17,000 of them went missing? i mean, i mean, that's literally no good, is it? keep your thoughts coming. gbnews.com forward slash your say , somebody that's not your say, somebody that's not very nice to peter. somebody started to be quiet. asks people asking lots of questions. keep them coming gbnews.com/yoursay with regard to the english and the national, the national anthem have jones says, just seen line up of england singing national anthem anthem. a lot of people think lee carsley has got that wrong. but anyway, stay tuned to gb news.com forward slash. you'll say next it's the interview. i'll be joined by big brother winner anthony hutton, telling me about how the fame ran out and how his life

changed. good afternoon. 21 minutes after 5:00. this is gb news. you're with me. i'm nana akua. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. lots of you have beenin digital radio. lots of you have been in touch with your thoughts with regard to the things we've been discussing, jack says on the england manager's . never the england manager's. never mind managers singing or not singing. national anthems and questioning whether we even need national national teams. i hear you, i mean, i doubt they'll win. oh, don't be horrible, benny says . oh come on, you benny says. oh come on, you can't expect an irishman to sing the english national anthem whilst playing ireland. and on keir starmer, craig says someone needs to tell paul starmer an ambulance. he's clearly lost his mind and ian mckellen and the queen. david says so. an old actor said the queen was a bit iffy with him and a bit mad. well, he's probably a bit iffy and mad. it's an age thing. just ignore it and stop the pylon. are you to talking me or talking to them right there? now it's

time for the interview. anthony hutton shot to fame in 2005 as the winner of big brother, the sixth series. he captured the nation's attention . he's nation's attention. he's charming, he's very cheeky , charming, he's very cheeky, including his memorable hot tub moment with makosi. remember, makosi was muslim. i can't say her name, but i remember that that was, i remember that. and then she said that she was pregnant or that was great. however, after his £50,000 win, fame proved fleeting and anthony struggled with the pressures that came with it. he fell into a destructive cycle of drink and drugs, and ultimately leading him to contemplate suicide as he grappled with the emptiness left after the spotlight faded. but today, anthony has turned his life around, using his experience to help others, and runs a mental health retreat, focusing on mental wellbeing and helping combat male depression. through his work, anthony aims to provide a safe space for men to provide a safe space for men to talk openly about their struggles and determined to make a difference. now, i've told you all that . what's the point of

all that. what's the point of meeting anthony now? i'm pleased to say that anthony hutton joins me now. anthony, lovely to talk to you. i remember that scene with makosi . what went on? come with makosi. what went on? come on. >> you know what? it's it was 2005 when that happened. and it still blows my mind how often i still blows my mind how often i still get asked that question. but yeah, we had a, we had a, we had a little bundle and that was it. she certainly wasn't pregnant, i can put it that way. >> would it have been the immaculate, immaculate conception if she had been , i conception if she had been, i would have been extremely fertile if she got pregnant there. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> really? that's not really answering the question. well yeah. >> so we didn't we so to put it bluntly, we didn't have sexual intercourse then if that's what you if that's what you really want to know. >> yeah. that's what that's not just me. it's everybody we all want to know that. no, we were all everybody wanted to know that question. >> you know i dunno, i dunno, i dunno! >> you know i dunno, i dunno, i dunno i dunno talk last week and

it was like a mental health talk and wellbeing and stuff and a woman came in the room and wanted to speak to me. afterwards, and i thought she was going to ask me something serious. and she asked for what happenedin serious. and she asked for what happened in the jacuzzi. so yeah , exactly. >> that scenes followed you around. so the thing with these big brother things. so everybody wants to talk to you. everybody wants to talk to you. everybody wants you on the tv, everyone wants you on the tv, everyone wants to interview you. how did you cope with that? and then what happened from there ? what happened from there? >> so it was absolutely unbelievable experience. i was actually, a huge fan of the show and i seen getting on big brother. the first, the first time i thought i was getting on the show was i was a postman and i wasn't particularly educated. i wasn't particularly educated. i wanted to be a footballer . i wanted to be a footballer. that that dream didn't come off and getting on big brother was, iseen and getting on big brother was, i seen that as an opportunity to change my life up. and it certainly done that. and the

experience was absolutely unbelievable. in reflection, it was a huge, huge, extreme taste of fame that i had because i was a young , immature man who lived a young, immature man who lived with my grandparents and my mum in county durham , and the next in county durham, and the next time i moved out of the house was in the big brother house. you know, won i the show i was on the show for. i think it was 78 days, which is, you know, just under three months. and it wasn't like the tv shows now where they get to speak to producers, they get haircuts . producers, they get haircuts. this was literally cooked up in a for house nearly for nearly three months to come away winning the show , won £50,000, winning the show, won £50,000, came out fireworks. everyone knowing my name. the next day was equally as crazy. i signed , was equally as crazy. i signed, a okay photo shoot where i got £200,000. wow. so so it was a real, real, extreme high and

taste of fame because it was, you know, from zero to hero, but . you know, from zero to hero, but. and, you know, with that high, it had, it had a huge low because when it got to the point where i, it got to the point where i, it got to the point where i, it got to the point where i basically needed to get a job and that my ego, pride, paranoia , what people would paranoia, what people would think of me if i went and got a normal job because for such a long period of time, i was known as that symptom, big brother. that's anthony who won big brother. so i'd cooked up all of this up in my head thinking, you know, i can't get a job. it was, i built it up to be terrified and scared about getting a normal job. and, you know, like, you touched on before, went, went, went, went down a dark path . would i change anything? path. would i change anything? would i change anything? no, i wouldn't, because it's all those losses were all lessons and it's carved me to be the man i am now. and it's led me into setting up this amazing project

that i've set up, >> how long did it take for it all to sort of go bad? so from being, you know, hero to zero, how long would you say that penod how long would you say that period of time was, >> you know what i managed to i managed to capitalise on it. for a good number of years. obviously, the first year was was the work was unbelievable, and the money was as well . and the money was as well. again, the second year, the third year, maybe the fourth yean third year, maybe the fourth year, things were, were started to kind of like get, get quiet and then, you know , then it got and then, you know, then it got to the point where i'm ringing the agent, no work's coming in at this point, i'd more i'd moved back to the north—east and it was it was probably more of a slow , gradual dwindle. and like slow, gradual dwindle. and like i said, it's it it's a it is quite a it's a hard thing to do

the reality tv thing because back then there was no social media. so, you know, if you didn't have a skill set of presenting or acting or anything or singing, which i didn't, and you basically had like a 15 minute window of fame, to and then it was like, you know, you were you were back like, you know, what do i do now , and for know, what do i do now, and for a long period of time, i deludedly thought something else would come up, and it never did. and, you know, like i said, when it got to the point where it looks like i've got to get a normal job now, that was extremely, you know, i'd cooked up that cooked up in the heads that was going to, you know, it was a big, big deal to me to do that. but, you know, once i got , that. but, you know, once i got, you know, it was like anything nothing's ever really is bad in reality , once you get, you know, reality, once you get, you know, once you get back doing it. but, yeah , it was, isn't it? yeah, it was, isn't it? >> that's tough, isn't it?

having to go back. it was. it was a fantastic experience . so. was a fantastic experience. so. so you've now set up your own kind of wellness hub. talk to me about that. we've got about a minute left. >> right. okay. so it's called never throw in the towel project, there's something something amazing happened. so they've never thrown the. the project's called never throw in the towel with the strap line. keep on living. those were the words that i used right at the end of my grandmother's eulogy. and that was describing her fighting spirit towards getting stage four cancer. a man in attendance who was at the funeral, messaged me afterwards. later that night, sharing with me that he'd been really struggling with his mental health and he wanted to let me know that he's clung onto the words never throw on the towel that absolutely lit the fire with me in it. and it led me to you know, i have to start talking about this topic. my role as a barber. i talk to men for a living. so, you know , i for a living. so, you know, i knew how bad it was. and it's a, it's a i've got two sons myself

and this project we are actively trying to tackle this huge problem. >> so if people want to find out more about what you're doing, where can they go or what's what's your website? have you got a website or something? they can they can go to it's never thrown the towel project. >> and on all all forms of social media platforms, never throw on the towel project. we're on there and we throw monthly free retreats where we get gatherings, and we are soon to set up a charity . once we get to set up a charity. once we get once we become a charity because we don't make any money from the retreats. once we become a charity, our aim is to start these all over the country. getting men outside in nature , getting men outside in nature, talking, walking, just doing all the simple things, which is all great for your mental health. >> all right, well, listen, anthony hutton, it's really good to talk to you. thank you so much for joining to talk to you. thank you so much forjoining me. it's good to see you. i'm glad i got that question answered. i've been wanting to know the answer to that for years. anthony hutton

brilliant. well done you for having me on. >> appreciate it a pleasure pleasure. >> that's anthony hutton. he turned his life around 31 minutes after 5:00. welcome. you're with me. i'm nana akua. this is gb news. live on tv, onune this is gb news. live on tv, online and on digital radio. still to come, we'll continue with our great british debates . with our great british debates. and i'm asking in light of jesus, was controversy . why is jesus, was controversy. why is he still knocking about? as a labour mp? you'll hear the thoughts of my panel. but up next, let's get your latest news with tatiana sanchez . with tatiana sanchez. >> nana. thank you. the top story sir keir starmer has met with his irish counterpart as part of a commitment to reset relations between the uk and ireland. they say coordination on security policy will be among the priorities of planned annual uk, ireland summits. the prime minister and irish premier , minister and irish premier, simon harris, agreed the terms of the leader level meetings as they held talks in dublin today. the annual summit will focus on several key areas such as

security, justice and global issues, climate, energy, technology and innovation, growth, trade and more. a joint statement said. their meeting marked the start of an ambitious programme towards a renewed and strengthened partnership . the strengthened partnership. the first meeting will be held in march. >> today is very much about cementing the reset of relations between our two countries that we've talked about in the last eight or so weeks since i was able to form a government in the united kingdom, and today we've just had a really good session where we've been able to agree the themes, some of the structures and the way that we'll take that forward, including a summit in march of next year and annual summits thereafter, all of which i think will provide a strong, stronger foundation for the very many issues on which we collaborate and cooperate for the benefit of both our countries . both our countries. >> in other news, a royal navy serviceman who was killed when a

helicopter made a deliberate emergency landing over the channel on wednesday has been named as lieutenant rhodri latham. three people were on board the merlin mk4 during a night exercise when it ditched off the dorset coastline, killing the 31 year old. a statement from rhodri's family described him as talented, passionate , strong and loyal . in passionate, strong and loyal. in other news, police are searching for a british man in majorca in the same area where a british woman was found dead earlier this week, have found a body. the spanish civil guard say they believe the pair had been swept away in a flash flood hit the mediterranean island on tuesday. emergency services have been searching the area near the tramuntana mountains since wednesday , and england have wednesday, and england have taken the lead in their uefa nafions taken the lead in their uefa nations league tie with ireland. declan rice with the opener just 11 minutes in. this is the first test for england's interim manager, lee carsley , following manager, lee carsley, following gareth southgate stepping down

after defeat in the euros final this summer. carsley appeared to not sing the national anthem ahead of the game, a decision he denounced already yesterday. and although he did so, the former ireland player said he is respectful of the concept and those are the latest gb news headunes those are the latest gb news headlines for now. i'm tatiana sanchez. i'll be back in half an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code or go to gbnews.com alerts

>> 38 minutes after 5:00 welcome. this is gb news. we are live on tv, online and on digital radio i'm nana o'quinn. it's time now for another great british debate this hour i'm asking why is labour mp jack creswell still knocking around

as an mp. now it comes as london mayor sadiq khan called for action against bad landlords and one of which is the ilford south mp giles haswell, who was renting out flats with ant infestations and black mould mould . archewell, who introduced mould. archewell, who introduced a property licensing scheme as redbndge a property licensing scheme as redbridge council leader, admitted his own flats did not meet these standards. i think seven of them did not have a licence. now, whilst he had apologised and sacked the agency managing the properties, there are growing calls for him to resign. well let's get. welcome again to my panel. political commentator lin mei and also human rights campaigner peter tatchell. >> lynn may now because he set the bar so high with regards to creating this licences, he was almost the beacon of, you know, what a perfect landlord should be in his estimation. that's why he created these licences. >> well, he's head of the council at the time and the councils managed the licences exactly. >> so that's why there's absolutely no excuse . however, absolutely no excuse. however, i will say this, having worked

with properties, having i'm a landlord myself , i deal with landlord myself, i deal with legal disrepair. i don't like the way how when people hear black mould , it's oh my god, bad black mould, it's oh my god, bad rogue landlord. it's not always. it's not always the case though. there is in law in britain, you have to have notice as a landlord to know that even myself, i wanted to regularly do check ups on my tenant every three months. they said it's a bit much. i said no problem. every every six months. i went there at the six months they had black mould. now imagine if you would have walked in there or, you know, a reporter would have walked in there and seen the black mould. i would have got it in the neck. i said, what's happening? >> but no, but the difference with this is that these people have been complaining repeatedly to the managing agents. okay, so this isn't a case of a landlord popping this isn't a case of a landlord popping in and saying, oh my goodness, i didn't know about the black mould, then told me if there's a managing agent, if there's a managing agent, if there's a managing agent, if there's a managing agent which has signed a contract, a legally binding contract, to say we take full responsibility, no, no, they don't take full responsibility. they take management responsibility, which is the repairs, the landlord has

full responsibility to fund the repairs. so if a managing agent, as you well know, says that there's mould and this and that, it's down to the landlord then to pay for those repairs. okay. >> well, if the managing agent are made aware to atherwald, you know, there's black mould and he did nothing about it, then there's obviously no excuse. >> and it's not just him. there were others who knew about it. >> has he said i was fully aware and did nothing. >> he what he has said is he said he's profoundly sorry. okay. >> so he is he admitted to it. >> so he is he admitted to it. >> he hasn't admitted to it. he said he's profoundly sorry. why would you apologise for something you've done? the management agents . he has said management agents. he has said he's profoundly sorry. he has not confirmed that he was aware of it. in fact, he's just saying that he's sorry. peter tatchell, rogue landlords should be prosecuted, whether they're mps or not. >> it's not about your party. it's not about being an mp. rogue landlords. should be prosecuted. it's against the law. they need to answer. >> well, he has said that he'll work to fix the issues. but the other question is with regard to the licences that he is the head

of the council set these up . of the council set these up. yeah, that makes it worse. council will manage them, manage them. but they never went to his own properties. >> the thing that's frustrating for me is when labour mps i've heard all week when labour mps are asked on this, they always dodge the question. you know, should he still be an mp? what should he still be an mp? what should happen? should he lose the whip? all these questions and they seem to dance around it. now. if that was a conservative mp, we would never hear the end of it. so it's like these double standards with regards to labour and conservative is what frustrates me. >> i don't think suspension or withdrawing the whip, that's not the issue . if it was unlawful, the issue. if it was unlawful, he should be prosecuted, do you think? >> well, we did speak to stephen barrett to get him his thoughts on whether it was an actual legal issue. and there are plenty of things in law that protect the tenants against rogue landlords, which is exactly what james archewell, even if he didn't know about it. and all this ignorance is no , no and all this ignorance is no, no excuse. you can't get out of things by saying, i don't know. i wasn't told about it. the bottom line is he is. he was head of the council at the time

the licences were set up. the management agent will come to them, to him for money for the licences. as you well know, i've had management agents looking after a property that i used to have , so i don't see how he can have, so i don't see how he can get out of it, but what's worse is the silence of the labour party . party. >> know what he has apparently done or not done in this case goes against labour's commitment to better standards of housing. so quite clearly there's a contradiction there. and labour should be calling it out. labour should be calling it out. labour should be calling it out. labour should be speaking out even though it's one of their own mps. if he's if he's done wrong, if he's done wrong, he should answer for it. >> and fair play to cindy yu and labour should condemn him and fair play to sadiq khan, who has also condemned it. but that's because sadiq khan has worked very closely with regard to air quality and air pollution. and there's of course, that very sad story about that young boy who died because of black mould. so, you know, something needs to be done about this. you shouldn't get away with it, right? >> no, he absolutely should not get away with it. as i said, he set a such a standard with these

licences. head of the council, and we do have an issue with disrepair across london stock at the moment across english stock. so something he can't just continue. he can't just continue because then also that gives rise for many other landlords. hang on a minute. we've got an mp in parliament. why are you holding me to a standard. and he's still there. >> and it's not as if archewell was poor. he had , apart from his was poor. he had, apart from his mp salary, he had, i think seven properties, 15, 13, 15, probably . properties, 15, 13, 15, probably. he could have he could have afforded to get them in order. well, it was seven of them that didn't have i think it's seven that didn't have licences. >> and that is just not acceptable is it. no. so we are expecting something from the labour party about this, but they are very good at sort of trying to talk about something else. and bring something else onto the table when really we would like to see some punishment. but what do you think? gbnews.com/yoursay get in touch. think? gbnews.com/yoursay get in touch . coming up, my quick fire touch. coming up, my quick fire quiz will test the panel on some of the stories that caught their eye this week. that's on the way

all right, so it's time for the quick fire quiz, the part of the show where i test my panel on some of the other stories that are hitting the headlines right now. joining me, political commentator lin mei shoaib bashir, please. lynn and also human rights campaigner peter tatchell. your buzzer please and please play along at home. right. make sure you buzz in only when i've finished the question. otherwise you won't get the point. >> okay? right. >> okay? right. >> maybe question one what country said that they would consider using facilities as the uk's rwanda scheme ? uk's rwanda scheme? >> estonia ? >> estonia? >> estonia? >> sweden. >> sweden. >> okay, you could have had this a lot easier because i would have done the multiple choice niyak ghorbani. hang on. wait, is it a it's not the end of the question. france i knew this would happen. we knew this would happen. is it a france b? italy

c germany? germany? >> germany? did you press your buzzer? >> did you just say germany? >> did you just say germany? >> he got it from me. >> he got it from me. >> all right . you can have that, peter. >> okay, fine. >> okay, fine. >> sorry i had to take your first answer anyway, which was wrong. right question two. the answer is of course, germany. germany would make sure would make use of facilities funded by the uk to process some asylum seekers in rwanda. there you go, a right true or false? question two james cleverly was the first tory candidate to be knocked out of the conservative leadership. >> oh, sorry. didn't finish. >> oh, sorry. didn't finish. >> i've started, so i'll finish leadership race. lynn may false. he said it's false . peter he said it's false. peter tatchell false. of course the answer is false because it was in fact a throwaway point. priti patel yeah, you can throw that away. yeah. well done, priti patel, you're absolutely right. former home secretary priti patel was the first contender knocked out one all one. all right. closest answer wins. how many gold medals has team gb's most decorated paralympian dame

sarah storey, won in her career? peter tatchell, 30. fryston. don't speak until you press that 2727. the answer is 19. gold medals may you take that point. yes, the answer is 19. picking up two in paris this week. there she is on the screen. yes. so it's two. one in may, right? open question ticketmaster's pricing for oasis tickets is under investigation. but what average is the resale value of these tickets ? what is the these tickets? what is the average resale value of the tickets ? tickets? >> come on, i'll have to guess £500. >> £500? are you crazy? who'd pay >> £500? are you crazy? who'd pay that for that, then may press your buzzer . come pay that for that, then may press your buzzer. come on. pay that for that, then may press your buzzer . come on. 350, press your buzzer. come on. 350, 350 yourself. 350. hardly. crikey what is suggested to be around £650 for a ticket? peter tattoo. you take that. but if you've missed one more or anything like that, then don't

worry, because they're doing two more gigs or something. well done peter tatchell to all. >> i was still 150 out, but you were still 150. >> final question multiple choice. where are mafia bosses relocating to in the uk? is it a maidstone b woking or c margate? lynn may maidstone, margate. margate. the answer is . it margate. the answer is. it doesn't say answer is b. actually they said b but they don't say what it is. so it's woking. thank you very much b woking. thank you very much b woking you're both completely wrong. that is a tie. it's a tie break. well done both of you. very good. but now it's time for clickbait i've been teasing this all show. let's have a watch. let's tease a little more a young man finds himself in what looks like a tidal sewer. but what happens next? there he is, lin mei, what do you think? >> i think he gets washed away. >> i think he gets washed away. >> he gets washed away. peter tatchell i think someone throws him something and he grabs onto it . someone throws him it. someone throws him something, he grabs onto it. well, somebody has thrown in

something and grabs onto it. let's have a look at the rest of the clip. roll the clip. he catches it. he's hanging on. look at that . oh, somebody pulls look at that. oh, somebody pulls him up. will the person on the top there remain. oh, oh he comes up. he's got one hand up on it. is he going to fall in. what about the guy above the guy above? above holding him up . and above? above holding him up. and then look what happens here. wow amazing. the guy on top. now he he's standing up at the top of this thing and actually pulls him over. but does he fall in? does anybody fall back into that? no. he hangs on the side. that's the end of the clip. he pulls him out. would you do that for a friend? i don't have any friends coming up though. on today's show i've been asking, should england manager sing the national anthem? what do you think guys should he know? and do you think it's his choice? is his choice? well, according to the twitter poll, 82% of you said yes. 18% of you said no.

wow well, the match is still on. i'm wondering what the score is. it's already one nil, but i don't think i'll be watching it. i'm not really into football. it's two nil. now is the score. it's two nil. now is the score. i can tell you that. but don't go anywhere near me. when are you coming back? are you coming back? what are your plans? you've got something nice planned. you're looking like a zebra today. >> i know i'm going out to eat dinner. >> oh, we love a bit of food. yeah. peter tatchell, thank you very much for your company. what are you up to? >> i'm going to go home and work. are you going to go on human rights, on human rights or any any particular rights you can tell us about? >> oh, it's all very silent. well, listen, lots of you have been getting in touch with your thoughts and views. there's so much more here on gb news. i've got to say thank you very much to political commentator lin mei and also human rights campaigner peter tatchell. on the way, the saturday five is up next. they've got a very exciting panel and loads of the top topics that we've been talking about. have you enjoyed it today? it's been brilliant. you were late though. >> i know, i know, you keep on saying that now. have you never been late? >> no, not for this. not for my own show. oh okay, i do

apologise. in fact, the answer is i'll make it up to you. you make it up to me. thank you very much. finally, your final thoughts on my monologue i did on keir starmer and whether the unions are taking control of laboun unions are taking control of labour. can we trust them? what do you think? >> no, i think it's going to be a lot worse. and now he's opened the floodgates and everyone's going to demand more money. >> do you think? yeah. and who's in charge of the unions also keir starmer. >> the unions are separate, simply representing hard pressed ordinary working people who deserve a better deal given all the inflation of recent years and the cost of living crisis, the unions defend their members. that's their job. i the unions defend their members. that's theirjob. i support them. >> so do you think keir starmer will reverse u—turn his decision for winter fuel pensioners? >> i don't think you have choice. >> no it's or no he should. >> no it's or no he should. >> he absolutely should. whether he will. that's an open question. >> that is an open question. we'll get an answer pretty soon. tuesday the unions meet. we'll hear what keir starmer has to say. thank you so much to all of you for your company. it's been a pleasure as ever. up next, it's a pleasure as ever. up next, wsfime a pleasure as ever. up next, it's time for the saturday five, hosted by the one and only darren grimes. grimes. grimes. grimes. that's what i call him. but i'll leave you with the

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16 or 17. so a muggy start to sunday, but some torrential downpours across england and wales. first thing there could be some disruption. a quieter start to sunday across scotland. some low cloud though , mist and some low cloud though, mist and murk across the north and the east. some drizzle in there too . east. some drizzle in there too. best of the sunshine across central and western areas. quite cloudy . start for northern cloudy. start for northern ireland. too thick enough for some drizzle but it is across england and wales where we've got heavy rain and thunderstorms. some potential disruption first thing and some brightness across parts of east anglia and the south east. but here as we go through the day, we'll see some thunderstorms developing, some longer spells of rain possible for parts of wales, the west country as well . wales, the west country as well. so do stay tuned to the forecast as we go through the next 24 hours, as there could be some disruption generally staying dry for northern ireland and scotland. temperatures here cooler than recent days 1718 celsius. best of the sunshine 22 or 23 celsius towards the east and southeast and then through into the evening time. those thunderstorms continue. they do

also produce some heavy rain across southern and eastern parts of scotland. as we end the day, generally staying dry for northern ireland. the outlook is for it to generally remain unsettled, but turning unseasonably cooler as we get towards the middle of next week. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers

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