away. >> everybody, good afternoon to you. it's 3 pm. and welcome to the martin daubney show. we're on gb news broadcasting live from the heart of westminster all across the uk on today's show. as you can see, these are live shots now of the house of commons, where mps have been debating whether or not to scrap winter fuel payments for pensioners. as you can see there exiting chamber, they're about to vote and we're expecting the results soon and we'll bring you those results live as they happen. those results live as they happen . and around 200 prisoners happen. and around 200 prisoners are being released early from british jails by the labour government today. but probation officers are warning reoffending is inevitable and domestic violence charities say survivors will have sleepless nights, will be live at hmp wandsworth to count the lags on the way out as they enjoy champagne and marijuana cigarettes. and at 5 pm. today, another tory leadership hopeful will be knocked out of the race, leaving the final four to fight it out. can any of the remaining hopefuls get the tories back on

tracks , or is the party destined tracks, or is the party destined to dwindle in the political wilderness that's all coming up in your next hour .7 welcome to in your next hour? welcome to the show . so right now they are the show. so right now they are going to vote. members of parliament on the very, very controversial cut to the winter fuel allowance it's guaranteed to sail through. such is the size of labour's majority. but in winning the vote, could they lose the hearts and minds of the nafion? lose the hearts and minds of the nation? certainly pensioners we speak to are telling us they feel very afraid of the looming winter, a winter of discontent for them and perhaps politically, for the labour party. we're expecting a few to rebel , to revolt many perhaps rebel, to revolt many perhaps more to abstain. throughout the show. we'll have full reaction from the westminster hall there in parliament our political edhon in parliament our political editor, chris hope, will be grabbing mps as they exit that

vote for the full reaction of one of the most contentious days in political history, and the biggest challenge yet for sir keir starmer's labour government. later in the show , government. later in the show, i'll be joined by a man who started the pensioner vote. he'll be listing a list of shame of every mp who voted, he believes, to make pensioners colder and poorer this winter. get in touch gbnews.com forward slash your save. but now your headunes slash your save. but now your headlines and here's sophia wenzler . wenzler. >> martin thank you . good >> martin thank you. good afternoon. it's 302 i'm sophia wenzler in the gb newsroom. thousands of prisoners could be placed in taxpayer funded hotels as more than 1700 inmates walk free today in an effort to cut overcrowding in jails . the overcrowding in jails. the justice secretary says probation staff have been authorised to use budget hotels if needed, after concerns were raised about re—offending because some inmates are unprepared and face

homelessness . shabana inmates are unprepared and face homelessness. shabana mahmood insists the early release scheme is temporary, giving the government time to reform the prison system. if we had not done this , we faced courts done this, we faced courts unable to hold trials , police unable to hold trials, police unable to hold trials, police unable to hold trials, police unable to make arrests and a total breakdown of law and order. this is not the long term solution. there is more that we must do, but it was the necessary first step that we had to take following the disgraceful dereliction of duty by the previous government . now by the previous government. now mps are clashing in the commons over labour's plan to slash winter fuel payments for most pensioners, with sir keir starmer standing firm ahead of today's vote. the prime minister is defending the cut, calling it a tough decision needed to tackle a £22 billion deficit. but critics , including 17 labour but critics, including 17 labour mps, are warning it could force millions of pensioners to choose between heating and eating. despite the backlash, the government insists the cuts are necessary to secure the foundations of the economy . in

foundations of the economy. in other news, sir keir starmer has warned that economic challenges will shape future pay deals and that tough decisions lie ahead. as he took to the stage at the trades union congress as the first prime minister to address the tuc since gordon brown. he thanked those who ended the burden of tory rule in this year's general election . but he year's general election. but he warned that rebuilding britain will be a difficult long term task, pointing to a 22 billion black hole left by the conservatives. now 31 people have been charged over last year's cardiff riots, sparked by the deaths of teenagers kyrees sullivan and harvey evans. the two boys died in a crash involving an e—bike after being followed by a police vehicle. 27 faced charges of riot, while four are charged with causing or threatening criminal damage. the defendants, aged between 15 and 53, are expected to appear at cardiff magistrates court in the coming weeks.

cardiff magistrates court in the coming weeks . america's top coming weeks. america's top diplomats confirmed. iran has sent short range ballistic missiles to russia and predicts they will be used in ukraine within weeks. antony blinken gave the warning after strategic talks with the foreign secretary in london aimed at boosting the special relationship between the two nations. speaking alongside david lammy, blinken described the development as a threat to all of europe. lammy echoed his concerns, calling the missile supply a significant escalation, and announced a joint trip to ukraine with blinken later this week . a coroner has ruled that week. a coroner has ruled that there is no clear link between there is no clear link between the appearance of a guest on the jeremy kyle show and his cause of death . 63 year old steve of death. 63 year old steve dymond was found dead at his home in portsmouth in may 2019, seven days after taking part in the show. hampshire coroner jason pegg said there was an absence of reliable evidence that the events on the show directly led to his death , and

directly led to his death, and with just eight weeks to go before the us election, republican candidate donald trump and democratic vice president kamala harris are set to face off in their first and only debate tonight. both candidates are neck and neck in key battleground states , but the key battleground states, but the debate could be critical for harris as polls suggest many voters still don't know much about her. trump's team is urging him to focus on immigration and inflation, while harris is expected to attack the former president's record on abortion and the capitol riots . abortion and the capitol riots. you can watch all the action live overnight here on gb news with america decides trump versus harris starting at 2 am. those are the latest gb news headunes those are the latest gb news headlines for now. i'm sophia wenzler more in half an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts .

slash alerts. >> thank you sophia. now welcome to today's show. and of course, there's only one place to start and that is in the house of commons. currently, mps are just clearing the chamber. they are beginning their debate. their votes beg your pardon? on the planned cuts to the winter fuel payments to pensioners ahead of a vote any moment now. and the big question is just how many labour mps will rebel against the prime minister. well, let's get straight now to gb news political editor chris hope, who is in westminster hall. chris, welcome to the show. so the vote is just about to get underway after a very heated debate. esther mcvey saying labour are declaring war on pensioners. liz kendall, of course, the secretary of state for work and pensions insisting this is the right thing to do. how soon can we expect a result? chris hope ? we expect a result? chris hope? >> yeah. martin, welcome to the historic westminster hall.

they've seen some dramas here. they've seen some dramas here. the trial, the trial of charles, the first being one of them, but over 100 yards away from where i am now, mps are voting on a withdrawal of the £300 winter fuel allowance from millions of pensioners from november. it comes into law next week, september the 16th, and today was the last day that the government could allow space for mps to debate and vote on it. so, to the credit of the government , they are allowing government, they are allowing the show of opposition from the tories and everyone opposed to the cut and a few labour mps around the edges will be will be able to show their discontent. what's expected, i think, is a few dozen. maybe not even that might vote against this measure, but might abstain, withdraw support from that measure . but support from that measure. but only a handful, maybe a half a dozen, will actually vote against. and it's how keir starmer treats them. will he suspend their whips? will wait and see. so far we know of 17 labour mps have signed an early day motion, a form of house of

commons petition that says they are opposed to this measure. to cut this benefit from millions of pensioners. but we heard last night from some of those signatories who are going to abstain today. so i don't think it will be that big, but certainly a big test, i think, for this young labour government, just two, two months old. i wonder whether this government might regret doing such a difficult and controversial measure so soon. in their time in office, without preparing the ground. it will save £13 billion this year, £1.5 billion next year, but it could easily backfire , not least could easily backfire, not least if you see if 800,000 people who are not claiming the pension credit they could do if they all sign up. it might wipe out altogether the saving. so the reputational risk is big and it could come back to haunt them. i wonder whether the lib dems or will they almost certainly will regret increasing tuition fees back in 2011, 2012, and they're still remembered for that. will this part of this labour government always be remembered

as the party that made pensioners freeze this winter? >> well, chris, that's precisely what we've been saying all along. and i said to you before, it's still gets used that phrase, maggie thatcher, milk snatcher from back in the 1970s. she's remembered for taking milk away from children in certain parts. i was one of those kids, by the way. still got the scars, but the legacy damage, the reputational damage of picking this battle with pensioners. and chris, hope you're exactly right to point out that the 1.4 billion saving could be totally wiped out by 3.8 billion cost if all of those 800,000 pensioners signed up for pension credit. which begs the question again, chris, why on earth do you think that the labour party has singled out pensioners while they're giving money to train drivers ? drivers? >> yeah, i mean, that's not a choice that the government would accept. i mean, yes, they did announce the pay rises for pubuc announce the pay rises for public sector workers on the same day as they announced the benefit cut back in july . so it

benefit cut back in july. so it looks like a clear choice. but we're hearing from rachel reeves last night i was outside in the committee corridor as she addressed a packed meeting of the parliamentary labour party. she said there that we've got to unite, to lead and make clear that we are making difficult choices here. she said she heard the concern in the room from other other mps, both private, had made to her in the treasury, but she said she had to take some measure. people tell me who aren't labour mps, who aren't on the labour side of politics, they say they think what's going on here is the labour government had to do something to show the markets, to show the obr, the office for budget responsibility. they will take tough choices on spending and if that means taking away universal benefit from millions of voters, well, they'll do it and they're doing it. but there could be a long term cost to that, certainly, but it's not something which they wanted to do. i was in brighton just now with sir keir starmer. he addressed the tuc conference, the issue of the pension credit, the issue of the pension credit, the pensioners winter fuel payment payments didn't come up at all, but he did make clear to the union members there that the

difficult economic situation means they can't keep paying out big pay rises going forward, and there'll be lots of people who will feel less well off. i think after the october 30th budget. >> and chris, it's also worth pointing out that the chair of unite the teacher's union and there at that tuc conference, they said that taking the winter fuel allowance was picking the pockets of pensioners. paul novak from the tuc was strongly advised to keir starmer to rethink on this, which is ironic because they were both recipients of loads of taxpayers money to pay their members, particularly £10 billion that went to wards, teachers and nhs workers. but there's been some heated rhetoric in the debates beforehand. chris esther mcvey saying labour are declaring war on pensioners. mel stride of course, he's still in the final five for the tory leadership race. that, of course, will have full results on that at 5 pm. he said that pensioners would suffer untold hardship, so it's a very emotive debate .

a very emotive debate. >> that's right. mel stride, of course, is one of one of the five remaining tory candidates in the leadership race and he is the shadow work and pensions secretary. and so he's allowed to use that position in the despatch box to make his case. and it was a barnstorming speech for mel stride earlier. tory mps are voting that 121 of them voting between 2:00 today and 4:00. so just an hour left of voting for who should be knocked out amongst the five and go forward as the final four to the party conference season. when that kicks off. and what's interesting looking around parliament is how many former tory mps are wandering around martin are all wearing these orange lanyards. they've all come back, it seems, to campaign for their person in this campaign. we'll hear more on that at 5:00. a big moment there as this party tries to take forward a suite of candidates who can take on sir keir starmer over the next four years. but yeah , mel stride did do did do yeah, mel stride did do did do well in the house of commons.

i'm hearing just chatter from different camps that tom tugendhat could be in trouble. he's seen as a previous favourite by some people. he could be in some trouble. we'll wait and see on that . and maybe wait and see on that. and maybe james cleverly again. i've got him down as a dark horse, so it is quite a thinly spread field. votes have been traded by by tory mps, we think by candidate teams saying if you put one in there we can knock that person out. so it is lots of high level i'm afraid, skulduggery. but thatis i'm afraid, skulduggery. but that is tory politics nowadays. martin >> and in as far as the results, when they come in, as you know, we had david pinless on yesterday, he's from the pensioner vote. he's compiling what he calls a list of shame of every mp in the land who votes in favour of scrapping the winter fuel allowance. he wants to empower constituents , to empower constituents, particularly pensioners, to make their feelings well known to those local mps . but is it those local mps. but is it correct for me to say, chris, hope that it will be clear

pretty quickly who voted for and who voted against, but the abstentions, that's a bit more difficult to kind of quantify and pin down because of course, some people may have been absent from the chamber. they may have been present but voted to abstain. so we won't get a clear picture. totally, will we? by the end of today ? the end of today? >> well, i think we should do within the hour, martin, to be fair, i think we will see and we'll get the list of abstentions. and as you say, some of those people might be ill, might have a reason to be away on a foreign trip , it could away on a foreign trip, it could be on ministerial business if they're in the government. so we have to be quite cautious with abstentions. but certainly we're going to see, we'll see. we'll get that list probably within the hour or so. >> and how contentious an issue do you expect this to be moving forward from today? it will be something that no doubt the conservatives and the reform party and the liberal democrats will weaponise against the labour party because nobody wants to be the mean spirited. here we go. here comes the vote.

>> the nos to the left, 348 aj. the eyes were 228. the nose were 348, 348. so the noes have it. the noes have it unlock . motion the noes have it unlock. motion number two on business of the house today . minister to move house today. minister to move the leader of the house. move formally. the question is on the order paper. the question is as on the order paper as many as are of that opinion. say i of the contrary. no, i think the ayes have it. the ayes have it . ayes have it. the ayes have it. jaw—jaw btec. >> we now come to the motion in the name of the leader of the opposition on winter fuel payment . payment. >> mel stride shadow secretary of state to move . of state to move. >> thank you, madam deputy

speaken >> thank you, madam deputy speaker. and can i say , can i speaker. and can i say, can i beg to move the motion on the order paper? madam deputy speaken order paper? madam deputy speaker, the decision to remove winter fuel payments has come as a complete shock to millions of pensioners , pensioners on as pensioners, pensioners on as little as 11,500 pounds a year. we had no adequate explanation as to why these measures are so urgent. we've had no explanation as to why they had to invoke the special emergency provisions which allow them to bypass the scrutiny of the social security advisory committee. we have had no explanation as to why no impact assessments were provided. this is a major policy change which will remove entitlement for up to 10 million pensioners, including many who are already in poverty. it is a cut worth 7.5 billion over the course of this parliament. rushing such a policy through without taking time to consider impacts , ensure or ensure impacts, ensure or ensure effective and fair implementation, and allow possible scrutiny is impossible

to justify. this is not the way to justify. this is not the way to make good policy. this is not good government. it is worth considering the conclusions of one of the few bodies which has been afforded the opportunity to scrutinise these regulations. the secondary legislation, scrutiny committee in the lords have been in their criticism of the government's approach and i refer the house to my remarks in the previous debate, when i quoted them at some length as the committee point out, such measures would normally be subject to consideration of the sack. this is an important part of the process for any legislation of this nature, as i know well from my time as work and pensions secretary. conveniently ministers have claimed the measure is too urgent to wait for the scrutiny. we understand sack is due to consider the measure. madam deputy speaker , tomorrow, can deputy speaker, tomorrow, can the minister commit to the house today that sack's report and the government's statement responding to any recommendations will be laid

before parliament, before the regulations come into force next week, as the lords committee has pointed out, it would seem wholly inappropriate for sacks views to only be taken into account once the regulations are already in force. in the words of the committee and i quote it remains unclear what the practical impact of any statement might be on regulations which will have already come into effect . and if already come into effect. and if the government does not intend to provide us with sacks observations before the house rises on thursday, why were members asked to consider and vote on the prayer motion against the regulations today, before sack has met? the lack of any impact assessment also means we are severely hampered in our ability to scrutinise this measure, we were told in the explanatory memorandum that and i quote a full impact assessment has not been prepared for this instrument because there is no significant new impact on the urgency seems to be a claim that this nnewire is vital for the urgency seems to be a claim that this nnew impact:al for the urgency seems to be a claim business, charities or on that this nnew impact onfor significant new impact on business, charities or on

voluntary bodies. this seems a voluntary bodies. this seems a bold claim to make about such a bold claim to make about such a measure, which removes hundreds measure, which removes hundreds of pounds of support from some of pounds of support from some of pounds of support from some of the most vulnerable elderly of pounds of support from some of the most vulnerable elderly households in our country. households in our country. guidance from the national guidance from the national institute for health and care institute for health and care excellence is clear that for a excellence is clear that for a vulnerable person, particularly vulnerable person, particularly those over 65 living in a cold those over 65 living in a cold home increases their chances of home increases their chances of serious illness or death. they serious illness or death. they note that being housebound note that being housebound increases both exposure to an increases both exposure to an underheated home and to the cost underheated home and to the cost of heating it . so of heating it . so underheated home and to the cost of heating it. so can i ask the underheated home and to the cost of heating it. so can i ask the minister on what basis it was minister on what basis it was concluded that there will be no concluded that there will be no significant impact from this significant impact from this policy on those charities, and policy on those charities, and organisations who support organisations who support elderly people , or on the wider elderly people , or on the wider elderly people, or on the wider health and social care social elderly people, or on the wider health and social care social care system. and will the care system. and will the minister now commit to the minister now a proper impact publication of a proper impact publication of a proper impact assessment? the only basis for assessment? the only basis for the urgency seems to be a claim the urgency seems to be a claim that this measure is vital for that this measure is vital for

the urgency seems to be a claim that this measure is vithe for means, in effect, that the winter fuel allowance has been axed for 10 million british pensioners . chris hope that's pensioners. chris hope that's the result. we expected , by my the result. we expected, by my maths, as about 7074 votes missing there, they'll either be abstentions or potentially absent. that detail will come out in time, but a substantial majority, as you would expect, the winter fuel allowance for pensioners has been consigned to history . history. >> that's right martin. yeah, by a cut to winter fuel payments for by 10 million pensioners will now go ahead next week into law. it will mean that in november only a fraction of that number who are on pension credit will get that support as we go into another cold winter in this country . what you're seeing now, country. what you're seeing now, martin, is the first line on the leaflet on the tory leaflet, the lib dem leaflets at the next election being written, this mp voted to remove your your keeping your your grandparents

warm war veterans, warm old people warm during winter. they did that and it wasn't in a manifesto. this is deeply political. what the labour government has done here. they're doing it because they have to. they say this is a £22 billion black hole. therefore they have to try and make cuts. but whether this is a cut politically that may have long term damage will wait and see, but have no be in no doubt that the opposition mp candidates in the opposition mp candidates in the next election are making a note of this. it's the first line in leaflets at the next election in four years time. >> chris, that's exactly right. in fact, we've been saying this from the very, very beginning here on gb news. we've been thinking that all along, and we thank you very much, chris. we'll have plenty more analysis throughout the show. of course . throughout the show. of course. okay. now we've got some breaking news now and this and it's coming up. we'll get the latest at around 2000 prisoners are released early today with probation officers are warning that reoffending is inevitable and domestic violence charities say survivors will have sleepless nights. we'll be live

at hmp wandsworth to count the lags on the way out . at hmp wandsworth to count the lags on the way out. i'm martin daubney on gb news, britain's news channel

welcome back. time is 327 on martin daubney on gb news now around 2000 prisoners in england and wales are being freed early today in an attempt to ease the overcrowding crisis and the offenders, all of whom are serving sentences of less than five years, are being released after a mere 40% of their sentence, rather than the usual 50%. now, this comes with reports that hundreds of victims were unaware that perpetrators of crimes against them are being freed, amid warnings that the pubuc freed, amid warnings that the public are being put at heightened risk. and we can cross live now to gb news national reporter charlie peters, who is outside hmp wandsworth. charlie welcome to the show. we've seen some astonishing scenes today of

prisoners coming out to be greeted by champagnes to cannabis cigarettes, almost doing cartwheels at their early freedom. and charlie, this sends out a terrible, terrible message to those on the receiving end of crime . crime. >> well, martin, the chief inspector of prisons , charlie inspector of prisons, charlie taylor, said that this was a risky move. he conceded that as he acknowledged that the justice secretary, shabana mahmood , had secretary, shabana mahmood, had given the probation service eight weeks to prepare for this major release date, some 1700 prisoners being released across the country. we anticipate some 400 in london now in wandsworth today we've seen a few dozen released. but, as you say, martin, there have been some scenes of them being received into welcoming and joyful, almost partying crowds here, popping almost partying crowds here, popping champagne as they left the gates here at hmp wandsworth, a prison that , by wandsworth, a prison that, by every metric, is one of the worst in the country. some 1500

prisoners inside , well above the prisoners inside, well above the population limits. it's a victorian prison. its cells are dirty , squalid, they're dirty, squalid, they're crumbling. and with all of that going on, there's a lot of concern within not only the probation services , but also probation services, but also charities around them that prisoners going into victorian era establishments like wandsworth aren't going to come out rehabilitated, even if they're spending 40% of their sentence and being let out early. with that eight weeks of additional preparation. there's also concern about the state of the probation service that they'll be received by because just two of the 12 probation regions in england and wales are deemed satisfactory, there's a shortage of over 2000 probation staff. they don't even think that around only 70% of those released from prison will be in settled accommodation within three months. now, earlier today, i spoke to one prisoner as he came out some ex—convict who said that he was delighted

about the 40% early release. but the person who stood next to him, coming out at the same time, said he was unhappy about it. he didn't want to leave. he was concerned, like many prisoners are, about homelessness now. that speaks obviously towards prisoner welfare but also concerns about victims and those who support them , because when people them, because when people leaving prison are leaving, such appalling conditions with overcrowding on an astronomical scale. but also drug abuse and violence inside and then coming out into these sorts of conditions with homelessness , conditions with homelessness, etc, there is concern, is there not, about people being more likely to reoffend . they expect likely to reoffend. they expect that about a quarter of everyone who's released from prison this year will be back inside within a year . now, year will be back inside within a year. now, that's the risk that the justice system is taking today with a broken , taking today with a broken, frayed and really straying justice system in england and wales as it hits a record high number of prisoners last week,

88,521. now labour will be hoping that the move they've made today, with that eight weeks of preparation will reduce the burden on prisons, improve the burden on prisons, improve the quality of service prisoners receive inside and does not impact victims too much on the outside. well as you can imagine, lots of people supporting victims, especially those involved in domestic abuse, where there are expected to be some domestic abusers released today as part of this mass release scheme, they are saying that this is not a sufficient move . not enough sufficient move. not enough preparation has been done at eight weeks or not. that's not been enough time to prepare for this release. >> well, charlie peters drug dealers, violent cons, prolific car thieves , burglars, domestic car thieves, burglars, domestic abusers, as you said, have been let out today. sir keir starmer says he's uncomfortable at some of the scenes. you said there about champagne, but one of the young lads let out a drug dealer six months out. he said i'm a lifelong labour voter now. charlie peters, what a time to be alive. thank you very much for that report there from hmp

wandsworth. lots more still to come between now and 4:00. we've crossed into brighton where early today sir keir starmer told left wing union members that he will have to take difficult decisions as prime minister. just how well did he fare on home turf? but first, here's your latest news headunes here's your latest news headlines with sophia wenzler. >> martin thank you. good afternoon from the gb newsroom . afternoon from the gb newsroom. it's just gone 330. these are your headlines. mps have approved the cut to the winter fuel allowance after the conservative motion to stop labour's plan to slash the payments for most pensioners was defeated. the prime minister has defended the cut, calling it a tough decision needed to tackle a £22 billion deficit. but critics, including some labour mps, warned it could force millions of pensioners to choose between heating and eating. despite the backlash, the government insists the cuts are necessary to secure the foundations of the economy .

foundations of the economy. thousands of prisoners could be placed in taxpayer funded hotels as more than 1700 inmates walk free today in an effort to cut overcrowding in jails. the justice secretary says probation staff have been authorised to use budget hotels if needed, after concerns were raised about reoffending because some inmates are unprepared and face homelessness. shabana mahmood insists the early release scheme is temporary, giving the government time to reform the prison system . if we had not prison system. if we had not done this, we faced courts unable to hold trials, police unable to hold trials, police unable to hold trials, police unable to make arrests and a total breakdown of law and order. this is not the long term solution. there is more that we must do. but it was the necessary first step that we had to take following the disgraceful dereliction of duty by the previous government . in by the previous government. in other news, america's top diplomats confirmed iran has sent short range ballistic missiles to russia and predicts they will be used in ukraine within weeks. antony blinken

gave the warning after strategic talks with the foreign secretary in london, aimed at boosting the special relationship between the two nations. speaking alongside david lammy, blinken described the development as a threat to all of europe. lammy echoed his concerns , calling the missile concerns, calling the missile supply a significant escalation , supply a significant escalation, and announced a joint trip to ukraine with blinken later this week. now a coroner has ruled that there is no clear link between the appearance of a guest on the jeremy kyle show and his cause of death. 63 year old steve dymond was found dead at his home in portsmouth in may 2019, seven days after taking part in the show. hampshire coronerjason pegg said there was an absence of reliable evidence that the events on the show directly led to his death , show directly led to his death, and with just eight weeks to go before the us election, republican candidate donald trump and democratic vice president kamala harris are set to face off in their first and only debate tonight. both

candidates are neck and neck in key battleground states , but the key battleground states, but the debate could be critical for harris, as polls suggest many voters still don't know much about her. trump's team is urging him to focus on immigration and inflation, while harris is expected to attack the former president's record on abortion and the riots . and you abortion and the riots. and you can watch all the action live overnight here on gb news with america decides trump versus harris starting at 2 am. those are the latest gb news headlines for now. i'm sophia wenzler more in half an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . slash alerts. >> thank you sophie and everyone who got in touch with us. you know to what do. simply go to gbnews.com/yoursay. i'm

particularly keen to hear from you about the news we've just broken . 348 british mps have broken. 348 british mps have just voted in favour of axing the winter fuel allowance for 10 million pensioners. 348 elected representatives seem to be happy about pensioners being colder and poorer. this winter. let me know your thoughts on that and i'll read out a few of those

channel. now welcome back. and you can see donald trump and kamala harris go head to head in their first presidential debate on tv live on gb news overnight tonight tom harwood presents america decides trump v harris exclusively live on gb. news from 2 am. welcome back. it's 339 on martin daubney on gb news now. sir keir starmer addressed union leaders at the trade union congress today. he warned that economic challenges will shape

future pay deals and that tough decisions lie ahead. sir keir then thanked those who ended the burden of tory rule in this year's general election. but he warned that rebuilding britain would be a difficult, long term task. and let's cross now to brighton and speak with gb news reporter adam cherry, who's at the tuc congress. sir adam, welcome to the show. so sir keir starmer was hoping to be on home ground, although of course a couple of the union leaders there were a bit frosty about his choice on voting down the winter fuel payment today. so how did he fail on what should have been home ground for him ? have been home ground for him? >> yeah. hi, martin. >> yeah. hi, martin. >> it's an interesting one, isn't it? >> there should be home turf. and yet i was in the room there earlier this morning and the response was was, was lukewarm. >> now i'm joined by one of those union leaders . those union leaders. >> i'm joined by jo grady, who's here with us. she's the general secretary of the ucu, the university and college union. so, jo, we'll just ask you about this. how did he do today? how

did the prime minister do? >> you were there in the audience. >> look, there were some things that are great. >> he's recognised, for instance, that universities are instance, that universities are in decay, which is the sector we represent, >> we haven't had any commitments about investments in them or investments in colleges, which is long overdue , or pay which is long overdue, or pay rises to workers who didn't get one. i think in general, though, the mood was mixed, >> there was a standing ovation in some areas of the hall, but i think in particular, to have the vote that we've just seen in the commons happen within hours. if less than that speech, you know, we can't keep blaming the tories for everything, and particularly not for fiscal decisions that are being made now. pensioners don't have a union, but we know that they're a group that can't afford to see this fuel payment cut . so a afford to see this fuel payment cut. so a mixed mood, i would say. >> do you buy this pitch that these unpopular decisions are made now for the greater good later on? >> is that going to wash with trade unionists here and yourself and your members? >> i mean, i can't speak for

everyone in that hall. there was a big group of people for whom that doesn't wash. there was a very challenging question in the hall about the two child cap, which i don't think was really very adequately answered, there are lots of workers in that hall who still want some really clear answers, and i can only speak right now for ucu members. we have no answers about how the government is going to close the £9,000 teacher pay gap in colleges. we've got no answers for how they're going to stop redundancies that are currently happening. you know, there's local government workers and care workers in there who have with no answers today. so left with no answers today. so there's been some really positive movement from the government and they should be commended for that. but this government have to also find ways to address the concerns of workers and sectors that are on its knees after 14 years of tory decay. >> just on your patch, specifically , there was some specifically, there was some hints from the education secretary, bridget phillipson, that perhaps tuition fees should rise to meet these challenges. >> is that something you support and is that something you would advocate? >> so what i would say to anyone listening at this moment in time, the funding regime that we

have , which is some fees, some have, which is some fees, some direct funding, doesn't work. a lot of students do not pay their fees back. so this is a system that in our opinion, needs to be replaced . asking fees to be replaced. asking fees to be increased isn't going to address that fundamental issue. and it also isn't going to bring more money into the sector, what government. and that's essentially what government needs to do. so no, we don't think that's the answer. and no, we wouldn't support it. >> well, thanks for joining us. really appreciate that, martin. >> as you see it is a mixed mood here. >> and this should have been a home run for the prime minister, given that it's the first time in 15 years labour have come to this conference in government. >> great stuff. there adam cherry, live from brighton, the tuc conference. well done. thank you very much. and now let's speak with gb news political editor chris hope. chris, the vote records are being published as we speak. they've just come out, we can see for the first time who voted in which way on this controversial vote for the winter fuel allowance. tell us more. i've got the figures here. two. >> that's right. martin. so 53

labour mps failed to support the removal of this universal benefit from 10 million pensioners in this vote this afternoon, far more than many thought 53 is several dozen , far thought 53 is several dozen, far more than many have thought. a single labour mp voted with the tories against the measure. jon trickett jon trickett is a former parliamentary private secretary, secretary to gordon brown. back in 2008 2009, when he was prime minister, he also was a key adviser to jeremy corbyn. so definitely an mp of the left, as you might say, he's issued a statement just now to say he voted, confirming he did vote against the proposal. he says it was a great labour achievement having this fuel payment and was introduced by gordon brown, his old boss, back in 1997. he's proud to to vote try and keep it going. it hasn't worked, of course, he fears that removing the payment, he says, from pensioners, will mean that many more will fall into poverty. this winter. and jon

trickett says we know that the consequences of pensioner poverty are devastating. it can even be a matter of life and death . so there you have it. you death. so there you have it. you have a senior labour mp voting against this measure, saying it's a matter of life and death for him, along with more than more than 40 labour mps refusing to support. we don't know how many of those were actual abstentions and how many of those were allowed to be not here because of other other business in the government or elsewhere around parliament. >> but chris, there was a lot of noise from a lot of labour mps before this vote, particularly on the left of the party, saying that they were against this the euros sultanas, the john mcdonald's, but only one labour mp, as it transpired , actually mp, as it transpired, actually voted against this. as in they voted against this. as in they voted to keep the winter fuel allowance . john trickett allowance. john trickett whatever you think of his political past, it seems he stood up for britain's pensioners in this vote. but he was a lone voice, a lone voice,

53 abstentions. chris >> that's right. i mean, jon trickett says also in his statement. he, martin, john trickett also says our country is richer now than it's ever been. he says that wealth is not being shared fairly. in his view, the government should be looking to raise revenues . from looking to raise revenues. from the wealthiest in society, not working class pensioners. and that harks back to, for me, to the tuc conference, where i've just been down in brighton when there was a single heckler dunng there was a single heckler during during sir keir starmers speech shouting tax the rich. so the big question i think for this labour government is, you know, you're removing this benefit from, from hundreds of millions of pensioners and trying to confine it to a small, number of those who are, who couldn't qualify for pension, pensioner credit. but how is that going to be fair? they they can't earn money by being a pensioner. you've stopped working essentially. you can't ask for a pay rise. you can't

make more money by getting a second job. so what are they going to do? put a jumper on, turn up the heat. they can't afford the heat, there's big questions here for this labour government and for john trickett. i think it will be question marks for him and his future as a labour mp. it's almost certain, and we'll wait for confirmation that he will have the whip suspended from him, removed from him and labour's majority will start to creep down a bit more . creep down a bit more. >> chris so these figures are literally just landing now. every single mp who voted to scrap the winter fuel allowance 347, every single one of them was a labour mp . no other was a labour mp. no other political party, no politician of any stripe voted to get rid of any stripe voted to get rid of this. only the labour party, chris hope, will that start a whole conversation about the labour party now being the true nasty party? >> well, i mean, labour was certainly disagree with the idea of being a nasty party. you're referring back to what theresa may called the tory party back in 2002, when he referred. she

referred to then as a nasty party that had long term repercussions for her. i think as a politician, i think that wouldn't be accepted by sir keir starmer or rachel reeves. they say they've got to. they're trying to plug black holes in the in the finances, the £22 billion black hole. they claim that's contested by other people , that's contested by other people, but they claim that this saving will be £1.3 billion this year, 1.5 billion next year and a recurring saving going forward. but as we know, if the 800,000 who can qualify for this pension benefit and some housing credits attached to that , that will wipe attached to that, that will wipe out any saving altogether. so it could easily be reversed on them. many people outside the labour party tell me they look at it and think, well, here's here's labour trying to signal to the markets and to the obr , to the markets and to the obr, the independent forecaster for the independent forecaster for the treasury, that they are willing to take tough choices. but this is a very tough choice and it weighs heavily . it weighs and it weighs heavily. it weighs heavily on pensioners who will be colder this winter. >> okay, chris. so we'll have full reaction throughout the show to this breaking news.

thank you very much for joining us there. live from westminster hall. now coming up. another tory leadership hopeful will be knocked out of the race later today about 5:00. we'll get the build up to next. i'm martin daubney on

welcome back. now at 5:00 today, another conservative leadership fall is set to be knocked out of the race, leaving the final four to fight it out. and those potentially facing the chop are james cleverly robert jenrick tom tugendhat , mel stride and tom tugendhat, mel stride and kemi badenoch. who might it be getting voted out today? let's getting voted out today? let's get now to gb news political correspondent olivia utley. olivia, tell us, who do you think might be the last four standing? >> well, last week it was very close in final place between mel stride and tom tugendhat. mel stride and tom tugendhat. mel stride managed 16 votes, tom tugendhat got 17. so it's thought that one of those two will go out today. up until

today, it looked pretty certain that mel stride was going to lose. but whisper in westminster this afternoon is that actually he's managed to get enough votes to get him through to the next round. and it could be tom tugendhat that ends up going now, why is that? it looks as though priti patel's votes have gone quite a few different ways. you've got a few more votes for robert jenrick, a few more votes for kemi badenoch and then actually you've got quite a few votes for james cleverly. and actually you've got quite a few votes forjames cleverly. and it votes for james cleverly. and it is possible that even some of tom tugendhat voters to sort of one nation, if you like, a little bit from the left of the party, have gone instead, with james cleverly , james cleverly james cleverly, james cleverly and tom tugendhat generally are seen as a sort of two experienced, safe pairs of hands . experienced, safe pairs of hands. and for some people there isn't much in it. if they think that james cleverly is beginning to get momentum, then they may well move over to him. so it's very, very close . there are only 122 very close. there are only 122 conservative mps altogether voting, and as i say last week, there was only one vote in it

between fourth and fifth place. there are only seven votes in it, between second and fifth place. at the moment it is too close to call. i predict not keeping my powder dry, that it's going to be tom tugendhat that goes, but it could go either way. >> superb stuff olivia utley thank you. we'll have the full results around about 5:00 in about an hour's time. thank you very much. now coming up, we've got much more reaction to that historic winter fuel payment for pensioners vote. it's hit us now. been cut an astonishing vote 348 votes to get rid of the winter fuel allowance, 347. all of them. every single one was a labour party mp who's a nasty party. now i'm martin daubney. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar, sponsors of weather on gb news >> hello and welcome to the latest forecast from the met office for gb news. rain

clearing south during the rest of today , followed by blustery of today, followed by blustery showers and turning much colder for the next few days . we've for the next few days. we've seen a weather front move across northern parts of the country earlier on, and it's now setting up across central england into mid wales and the south. and that rain will well, it will be on and off through the evening, but eventually clear following on from that. clear spells, blustery winds and frequent showers. heavy rain for shetland could cause some issues during the rest of the day, and frequent showers coming to the north and west of scotland, northern ireland, northwest england and parts of north wales. elsewhere, clear skies overnight and with the colder winds arriving, it's going to be a fresh start to wednesday. some places in the mid to low single figures , but it's also going to figures, but it's also going to be a blustery start , with be a blustery start, with further heavy showers coming into the north and west of scotland. a few flakes of snow possible over the tops of the mountains in scotland and at lower levels, possibility of some hail and across western

scotland, northern ireland, northwest england as well as northwest england as well as north and west wales, those showers will be merging into longer spells of rain to give a thoroughly unsettled and soggy start to wednesday, but the showers will mostly be affecting these northern and northwestern coasts. elsewhere, brighter skies and i think for parts of southwest england, the showers will be few and far between , will be few and far between, with plenty of sunny spells, but it's going to feel cold whether you've got the showers coming through or the sunny spells. with temperatures significantly below average for the time of year 1516 celsius in the south, 11 to 13 further north and in some places, temperatures staying in the single figures for much of the day. further showers coming through on wednesday evening. again, they'll mostly be affecting the north and the west, although 1 or 2 showers could arrive elsewhere. a drier day to come on friday with plenty of sunshine after a very chilly start to the day for the time of year into saturday and sunday. plenty of dry weather in the south. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers . boxt boilers. >> sponsors of on gb

>> go away . >> go away. >> go away. >> eight . the noes to the left, >> eight. the noes to the left, 348 kjt. >> mps to vote approve government plans to cut winter fuel allowances for 10 million pensioners. good afternoon. it's 4 pm. welcome to the martin daubney show on gb news, broadcasting live from the heart of westminster and all across the uk as mps to vote remove the winter fuel payment for 10 million british pensioners. an astonishing day in british political history. we'll have all the latest reaction to this throughout the show. also on the show today, around 2000 prisoners have been released early from british jails by the labour government as probation officers are warning reoffending

is inevitable and domestic violence charities say survivors will have sleepless nights. we'll be live at hmp wandsworth to count the lags as they come out and to combat spiralling illegal immigration and islamist terrorism. germany has taken the bold decision to close all of its 2300 mile borders with other nafions its 2300 mile borders with other nations follow suit with the european union push back. and what does all of this mean for great britain? and at 5 pm. today, another tory leadership hopeful will be knocked out of the race, leaving the final four to fight it out. can any of the remaining hopefuls get the tories back on track, or is the party destined to dwindle in the political wilderness? that's all coming up in your next hour. wokester the show on this historic moment in british political history today, the winter fuel allowance has been axed around about one hour ago,

the results of just coming in as we speak. we're analysing that vote in real time, an incredible statistic. 348 british elected representatives , members of representatives, members of parliament, voted to get rid of the winter fuel allowance. and guess what? 348 100% of them belong to the labour party. what do you think about that? send your views to in gbnews.com/yoursay and i'll read out the best of your comments before the end of the show. it's going to be an action packed bumper edition of the show today, but now your headlines with sophia wenzler. >> martin. thank you . good >> martin. thank you. good afternoon. i'm sophia wenzler with your headlines just after 4:00. mps have approved the cut to the winter fuel allowance after the conservative motion to stop labour's plan to slash the payments for most pensioners was defeated. a total of 53 labour mps abstained on the vote, while

labour mp jon trickett was the only rebel. the prime minister has defended the cut, calling it a tough decision needed to tackle a £22 billion deficit. but critics, including some labour mps, warned it could force millions of pensioners to choose between heating and eating. despite the backlash, the government insists the cuts are necessary to secure the foundations of the economy. now thousands of prisoners could be placed in taxpayer funded hotels as more than 1700 inmates walk free today in an effort to cut overcrowding in jails. the justice secretary says probation staff have been authorised to use budget hotels if needed, after concerns were raised about re—offending because some inmates are unprepared and face homelessness. shabana mahmood insists the early release scheme is temporary, giving the government time to reform the prison system. >> if we had not done this, we faced courts unable to hold trials, police unable to make

arrests and a total breakdown of law and order. >> this is not the long term solution. there is more that we must do, but it was the necessary first step that we had to take. following the disgraceful dereliction of duty by the previous government, meanwhile, 31 people have been charged over last year's cardiff riots sparked by the deaths of teenagers kyrees sullivan and harvey evans. the two boys died in a crash involving an e—bike after being followed by a police vehicle. 27 faced charges of riot, while four are charged with causing or threatening criminal damage. the defendants, aged between 15 and 53, are expected to appear at cardiff magistrates court in the coming weeks . america's top diplomats weeks. america's top diplomats confirmed iran has sent short range ballistic missiles to russia and predicts they will be used in ukraine within weeks. antony blinken gave the warning after strategic talks with the foreign secretary in london, aimed at boosting the special relationship between the two

nations. speaking alongside david lammy , blinken described david lammy, blinken described the development as a threat to all of europe. lammy echoed his concerns, calling the missile supply a significant escalation, and announced a joint trip to ukraine with blinken later this week. sir keir starmer has warned the economic challenges will shape future pay deals and that tough decisions lie ahead. as he took to the stage at the trades union congress as the first prime minister to address the tuc since gordon brown. he thanked those who ended the burden of tory rule in this year's general election. but he warned that rebuilding britain will be a difficult long term task, pointing to a £22 billion black hole left by the conservatives. in other news, a coroner has ruled that there is no clear link between the appearance of a guest on the jeremy kyle show and his cause of death. 63 year old steve dymond was found dead at his home in portsmouth in may 2019, seven days after taking part in

the show. hampshire coroner jason pegg said there was an absence of reliable evidence that the events on the show directly led to his death , and directly led to his death, and with just eight weeks to go before the us election, republican candidate donald trump and democratic vice president kamala harris are set to face off in their first and only debate tonight. both candidates are neck and neck in key battleground states , but the key battleground states, but the debate could be critical for harris, as polls suggest many voters still don't know much about her. trump's team is urging him to focus on immigration and inflation, while harris is expected to attack the former president's record on abortion and the capitol riots. and you can watch all the action live overnight here on gb news with america decides trump versus harris starting at 2 am. those are the latest gb news headunes those are the latest gb news headlines for now. i'm sophia wenzler more in half an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to

news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gb news. >> com forward slash alerts . >> com forward slash alerts. >> com forward slash alerts. >> thank you sophia. welcome back to the show. and there really is only one place to start. and that is the news that mps have sensationally voted to approve the government's cut to the winter fuel allowance. 348 mps voted in favour of the government and 228 voted against the motion. that has been voted on was put forward by the conservatives and it was to cancel the government's move to cut the £300 payment to 10 million british pensioners. and we can cross live now to gb news political editor chris hope, who is in the historic westminster hall, where chris political history has just been made, and not necessarily for the good of an astonishing vote. and there's only one takeaway from this, and that is, out of 348 people, mps

who today voted to get rid of this, every single one of them, chris hope, was from the labour party . party. >> that's right. martin. yeah. welcome back to westminster hall, this historic thousand year old hall with its hammerbeam roof, seen plenty of political bloodshed over the time and certainly a very, very difficult day for the labour party. they, of course, blamed the last inheritance they got from the tory government. they got a £22 billion black hole, they say, that needs filling. £1.3 billion is saved by axing the £300 or £200 or £300 winter fuel payment to 10 million pensioners from november. it will now will become law next week, on september the 16th, and choices have been made here. there's 53. labour mps have not supported that. they know the political risk of doing so. one single labour mp, jon trickett. he's voted against his government, a former aide to gordon brown when he was prime

minister back in the noughties of course, he was a key aide, a key adviser to jeremy corbyn when he was labour leader. he's voted against and we can expect some swift action on him. he should be removed as a labour whip, i would expect, before it gets dark here in westminster, they know i think these, these labour mps that they that the opposition, the tory mps , lib opposition, the tory mps, lib dems, they are right to the first line on the attack leaflets are put out next the election in four years time will be this your candidate, your mp voted to make your family member your pension, your grandfather a war veteran, colder by removing this, the £300 payment. it was something which was not in the labour manifesto. this year. it was in previous manifestos the tories smell a rat. they think it was always going to be allowed to happen. they expected it. that is firmly denied by aides to rachel reeves. i was there in a corridor last night as mps, labour mps heard from rachel reeves and she said the chancellor we've got to make these cuts. i've listened to

you. i know why you're saying that. it's a difficult choice, but we have to do it in order to show we are tough on cutting and making tough choices and dealing with spending. there'll be more to come also, and the october 30th budget. >> okay, chris. well, please stick with us. i'll come back to you momentarily, but i'd now like to speak to the deputy political editor of the financial times, jim pickard. jim, welcome to the show. an historic vote, an astonishing vote. 348 of those who voted to axe the winter fuel allowance. every single one of them is from the labour party. jim pickard. and my point to you is, is quite simple. the collateral damage, the reputational damage of the labour party axing winter fuel allowance for 10 million pensioners, voting to make them colder and poorer this winter. was it worth it for a £1.4 billion saving the band? >> so chris was speaking a second ago about choices and being in government. is about making really difficult choices. do you spend taxpayers money on defence? do you spend it on the

nhs? d0 defence? do you spend it on the nhs? do you spend it on roads? do you spend it on welfare, or do you hand it to people in tax cuts? and when labour was in opposition for the last 14 years, they could criticise everything from the sidelines because that's what opposition parties are able to do now. they find themselves in government, they find themselves with a huge majority, which gives them no excuses.in majority, which gives them no excuses. in terms of you know, they can do basically whatever they can do basically whatever they want to do. and the problem that rachel reeves the chancellor has is that by choosing this particular demographic to be removing perks from while giving a large pay rise to a lot of public sector workers represented by the unions here, the tuc in brighton, you know, that is a choice and you can like it or you can hate it, but you know, they can no longer hide in opposition. they have to actually make these decisions. i think two tricky things about this particular announcement. >> one, one of which is that i think people understand that it is a bit weird that mick jagger or other millionaire pensioners get the £300 a year payout every, every winter. >> but the problem is, if you

means test it, it's something that's very expensive and difficult for the government to do. so they've gone for this blanket approach, which removes it from the huge majority of pensioners, and the charities have said that this will hit quite a few people below the poverty line. that's the first problem with this policy. i think the second one, as well is that it was announced in july , that it was announced in july, kind of separately from the budget, which is happening at the end of october. there's been a big delay in between the two. so there are a lot of union leaders here saying, you know, the government shouldn't be doing this. they should be taxing the rich. now, i happen to think and all the clues are there from what ministers say, that this government will be taxing the rich more or the well—off when it comes to the budget. on october 30th. so why didn't they do those decisions? those announcements , at the same those announcements, at the same time, then it might have made a little bit more coherence and sense to certain people. you know, of course we have the sterling situation is that this labour government has inherited some pretty dire public finances. you can blame the war in ukraine, you can blame the covid pandemic, you can blame whatever you want. >> you know, the public finances

are in a pretty bad way. >> and the decisions therefore, this government has to take are very difficult . very difficult. >> but jim, they've made a decision. the people at that conference where you are today, they were criticising sir keir starmer for picking the pockets, as you said, of pensioners , as you said, of pensioners, while at the same time their members have been on the receiving end of £10 billion from sir keir starmer to pay the teachers to pay public sector workers in the nhs . so there was workers in the nhs. so there was a clear political choice to pay union members and to take from pensioners. jim pickard surely now there will be 348 constituencies around the united kingdom where they're going to be printing leaflets as we speak, saying going through the letterboxes of everybody in those constituencies, saying your labour mp just voted to make pensioners in your constituency colder and poorer this winter. i'm old enough to remember the legacy of maggie thatcher, milk snatcher, that mean spirited nature lasted for many, many , many years, way

many, many, many years, way outstripping any cost saving on milk to children at school. could that not be the fallout from this ? was it worth it? from this? was it worth it? that's my question. £1.4 million is a rounding error in the grand scheme of things, and peanuts compared to what they gave to their union chums . their union chums. >> of course, it's hugely controversial. there's no doubt in that whatsoever. the only one thing i would say is that you're you're making this pay rise to pubuc you're making this pay rise to public sector workers sound like some kind of, you know , union some kind of, you know, union barons getting showered with gold coins. you know, mick lynch, you make it sound like he's being sort of force fed gold. i mean, at the end of the day, it's a slightly above inflation pay rise for millions of public sector workers rather than he probably watched gb news, and a lot of whom believe that they've had below inflation pay that they've had below inflation pay rises in the recent past. and to some extent, they've just been playing catch up. but, you know, look, they're in a very difficult situation. they've been warning themselves that they would have more difficult decisions to come. you've just got to hope that in the budget in october the 30th, there aren't going to be a whole they

need to hope, there aren't going to be a whole load more rebellions from all sorts of different areas. so at the moment they're under pressure over the pensioners, over what you rightly say is only £1.4 billion. if they raise taxes by what we think could be 10 or £20 billion in that budget, then there's going to be a whole wave of criticism from all sorts of different avenues from ft readers, i suppose, from from well—off entrepreneurs, business people, people who have a lot of assets. but, you know, they are still politically solid. they have this huge majority. there is not a chance to vote this government out for another five years. and so i think they are going to try and ride through this storm and within the government what they would say privately is that if they were to capitulate over this, it would make them look like a soft touch , and it would make it even touch, and it would make it even harder for them to do some of the really difficult fiscal decisions that they have coming down the tracks. >> okay. jim piggott, thank you very much. it's always a pleasure to speak to you there. thanks for joining pleasure to speak to you there. thanks forjoining us pleasure to speak to you there. thanks for joining us there from the tuc conference at brighton. now let's get back to gb news. the political editor chris hove in westminster hall. chris, i

believe you have a guest for us. >> someone known to you. martin daubney. yeah. and with leanne lee anderson, the reform uk mp for ashfield, lee anderson. how do you vote in the winter? fuel payment debate? >> obviously i voted to keep the winter fuel payment. >> this is a massive issue in my constituency. >> chopper 19,000 pensioners in ashfield. this will affect 88% of those about 17,000 old age pensioners will lose their winter fuel payment as of today. thanks to this labour government . thanks to this labour government. >> why have they done it? i mean, there's this big political risk here and how damaging it will be electorally. well, it will be electorally. well, it will be electorally. well, it will be damaging. >> i mean, they keep talking about these black holes. >> they keep discovering chopper left, right and centre £22 billion, which they've created themselves with these massive pay themselves with these massive pay rises, public sector pay rises and foreign climate aid and all this other nonsense , and all this other nonsense, they want to spaff our money away. >> but electorally i think next year we've got the county elections in nottinghamshire and i'm telling you now, this will be on every single leaflet i will name and shame every single

labour mp in nottinghamshire that's voted, voted this pernicious, cruel act of parliament, £300 though, for some well off pensioners is not much. >> they can easily live without it, is it being overblown by scaremongers? no, it's not scaremongering at all. >> lots of pensioners in my neck of the woods, as you know, it's not a rich area. they they, they depend on this payment. yes. we know there's some people that, you know, they could do without it, but nevertheless we've got people managing on 12,13, 14 people managing on 12, 13, 14 grand a year this , this £300 grand a year this, this £300 they get is a godsend. it helps them pay their fuel bills through the winter. i've had pensioners actually crying on the phone. to me it's absolutely disgusting what this so—called socialist government has done. >> how will they keep warm this winter? what are they saying to you, the people you meet? will they not turn the heating on? put a jumper on. how will they keep warm? i mean, look, i mean sir keir starmer. >> i mean what a snake he is. he was telling people not long ago, a few years back, that old women were riding around on buses all day on the free bus pass to keep warm. what a load of nonsense that was. but you know what?

it's come back to bite him, choppen it's come back to bite him, chopper. but i guess they're going to have to cut back on stuff. you know, we see it a lot. we've seen it a lot through covid as well, where people will go round to each other's houses, you know, and share the bills for the day, join clubs. and maybe, you know what starmer said about people travelling on buses. maybe we'll see an explosion in in bus travel. >> it's really, really it's really, really serious. do you think pensioners might di might get cold because we know how winter affects it. tragically, we know how winter can affect old people . there has been some old people. there has been some research saying that thousands will die if this benefit was removed in 2017. labour commissioned that do you worry about that? >> well look you're quite right chop.in >> well look you're quite right chop. in 2017, labour were banging on in this place , saying banging on in this place, saying nearly 4000 people would die as a consequence of cutting the winter fuel allowance. what's changed since then? who knows? i mean, so is it a choice the government is making between economic, economic growth and cutting the deficit and people's lives , people's lives? lee lives, people's lives? lee anderson, is this economic growth keep bleating on about. that's a load of nonsense. >> they haven't got a clue.

>> they haven't got a clue. >> well, they say it's not. they say it's real and we need to deal with it. >> i'll tell you what they've done, chopper. >> let's be serious. what they've done today. they've been in that voting lobby and they have stolen £300 of some of millions of vulnerable pensioners and quite frankly, they should be ashamed of themselves. they need to have a long, hard look at themselves in the mirror tonight and realise what they've done. shameful, disgusting. absolutely disgusting. absolutely disgusting. what would you have doneif disgusting. what would you have done if you'd been in power? >> what would you have cut? >> what would you have cut? >> what would i have cut? i'd have cut the foreign climate aid and get that lunatic that ed miliband get him out of office because he's spaffing billions of pounds away, you know, with his gb energy, 8.5 million, 11.6 billion on foreign climate aid. he's a lunatic. >> he's the most dangerous man in britain. >> but he would definitely dispute that. and he would he would. >> i tell you what, he's the biggest threat to pensioners in this country since covid 19. >> okay, lee anderson, thank you. lee anderson, now the former uk mp for ashfield with some tough words there for this government as it removes £300 winter fuel benefit from 10 million pensioners. it will go through next week . through next week. >> well it's all kicking off there in westminster hall. thank you very much . chris obe and lee

you very much. chris obe and lee anderson of course. strong words, strong sentiment a lot. a lot of people getting in touch with the show. chris also feel very, very similarly. of course, we have tough choices to make, but was this the correct choice to make? now coming up, we'll get the latest as around 2000 prisoners are also released from prisoners are also released from prison early today, with probation officers warning that reoffending is simply inevitable and domestic violence charities say survivors will have sleepless nights. what a time to be alive. we'll have more reaction to this in just a moment. i'm martin daubney on gb news britain's news channel

welcome back. it's 423 on martin daubney on gb news now. around 2000 prisoners in england and wales are being freed today early, in an attempt to ease the overcrowding crisis in british jails. the offenders, all of whom are serving sentences of

less than five years, are being released after a mere 40% of their sentence, rather than the usual 50%. and it comes amid reports that hundreds of victims were unaware that perpetrators of crimes against them are being freed amid warnings that the pubuc freed amid warnings that the public are being put at heightened risk. well, joining us now is the general secretary of the prison officers association, steve gillan. steve welcome to the show. we've seen some incredible scenes outside british prisons today of inmates being released , drug dealers, being released, drug dealers, violent convicts, prolific car thieves, burglars saying i'll be back and we've got the probation officer , chief inspector martin officer, chief inspector martin jones saying offenders are almost bound to be sent back to jail. what do you make of today's calamitous scenes ? today's calamitous scenes? >> well, martin, i think it was inevitable that whoever was the government that was elected in july would have had to make some really difficult choices. i don't think any government,

whether it's conservative or laboun whether it's conservative or labour, would want to do this willingly, because as far as i'm concerned, victims should always come first. but our prisons are full. the criminal justice system is collapsing , full. the criminal justice system is collapsing, and in the last 14 years of tory rule has undoubtedly been a total disaster. you know, we've got backlogs in the magistrates courts of some 300,000 cases. we've got backlogs in the crown courts of 60,000. so the reality is, for me, and i will always put victims above anything else , put victims above anything else, quite frankly. but this was inevitable. it was going to happen.the inevitable. it was going to happen. the tories started to release early under previous schemes before the general election, and you know, policies now to shut 20 prisons from 2010 onwards. i'm afraid you reap what you sow. i've been my union

has been saying for a long, long time now . we're heading for a time now. we're heading for a crisis and we need to have a root and branch review, a royal commission into what it is we want from our criminal justice system and prisons in general, and, steve gillan, what do you think that solution would look like? >> i mean, do we release more people? it's okay to blame the conservatives for this, but this was a decision taken by the labour party to go to 40% rather than 50% of turn. but at the same time, keir starmer has been jailing people left, right and centre for taking part in riots. even when they've been doing things like posting things on facebook he doesn't agree with. so there's elements there of two tier policing, but irrespective of that, how do we sort this mess out? what do we need to build more nics ? build more nics? >> well, i don't think you can build your way out of this crisis. i think what we need, martin, is to have a thorough, urgent debate, one which allows

community sentences to be used a lot better to keep petty offenders out of jail and divert, and the mentally ill diverted away from prison in the first place. i make no apology for blaming the conservatives because austerity measures that they chose to do , robbing they chose to do, robbing effectively the prison service, starving it of money, investment and different things has has partially led to this crisis. i think we lock up more people in this country, in england and wales than than anywhere else in europe . i don't think this europe. i don't think this country is any different to any other country. i don't think it's any worse . but but the it's any worse. but but the reality is, and i come to your point about the alleged two tier policing, no government is ever going to allow the scandalous stuff that we saw on the streets. the rioters and 70% of them actually had criminal records . they weren't patriots. records. they weren't patriots. they were criminalised gangs and

individuals that set out to cause disruption. now, if you cast your mind back to 2011, when we had the same riots in london and across cities breaking out, the conservatives then had swift justice as well. no government is going to put up with that. so i think to criticise keir starmer in relation to that. and if people are stupid enough to put in insightful stuff on social media, then they fully deserve what they get , quite frankly. what they get, quite frankly. >> well, so that brings me back to my point. it's a question of priorities. we have a certain number of jail places. we're always at capacity. it seems like 84 last week left 300 left. now my point is simple. steve gillan, should we be sending people to prison for social media posts? when today we're letting drug dealers out early. violent convicts out early prolific car thieves out early. domestic violence charities saying people will be having

sleepless nights, not having been told that their abusers could be released. if it's a question of priorities , should question of priorities, should we really be policing people's tweets and not policing the streets ? streets? >> martin, i fully understand where you're coming from, but in relation to who gets locked up is nothing that my union can do about that . that's for the about that. that's for the magistrates and the crown courts. they're the ones that deliver the sentences, not my union, you know. so. but i have got a view on it. i think it's long overdue , the discussions so long overdue, the discussions so short term , we support the early short term, we support the early release as long as it's properly risk assessed and the individuals that are being released are not a danger to the public. otherwise, you're absolutely right. they're going to be recalled to prison if they commit further offences. i've got sympathy with the probation officers who haven't been given a long time in order to make

sure that people aren't sleeping on park benches and different things, but, you know, that's not unique. that's not just caused by this issue. there are individuals that are released from prison that have no, residency to actually go to. sometimes and they do end up on the streets and they do reoffend and they come back in, we've got and they come back in, we've got a revolving door and we need to change the culture in this country. but at the same time, protect victims from crime as well . well. >> and steve, quickly, if we could, do you think that that risk assessment has been carried out effectively in this situation? because as i said earlier, we've got martin jones, the chief inspector of probation, saying that his members were told days before that they were having their casework increased, sometimes as many as 70 convicts per probation officer. they were told days before. normally, he said, they were given three months. and he said this means that offenders are almost bound

to be sent back to jail within days or even weeks. so surely that shows that that risk assessment that you're rightly pointing out hasn't been done ? pointing out hasn't been done? >> well, i'm not so sure about that. i mean, quite clearly he has that information. i don't my understanding is, yes, it was rushed, but for several weeks now people have been working on these risk assessment. probation officers and prison staff and different things inevitably. and i don't say this lightly. there will be people that reoffend. there's no doubt about that in my mind, but the reality is this government had to do something . government had to do something. the previous government knew the situation as well. alex chalk, who i think was a decent lord chancellor and secretary of state in meetings i had with him . state in meetings i had with him. he knew the situation was dire.

the prison system was in crisis. they needed to do something about it. but it was under a tory government that shut 20 prisons and never built enough spaces to take it on board. so yeah, i have got a concern and i'm sure, you know, victims of crime, charity groups and others will be watching this situation very carefully . and i've got to very carefully. and i've got to say, i'm sure the new lord chancellor, shabana mahmood, who have obviously met very quickly as well, and james timpson, the prisons minister, they'll be watching very closely to see if there are any reoffending and recalls to prison and different things. so it's all up in the air at the moment. it gives us a little bit of breathing space to prison officers that are overstretched, overworked , by overstretched, overworked, by the way, underpaid as well, and i've my concern is that if this doesn't work, what do we do next? now we know next month there's going to be a further

release of 2000 prisoners, it's not ideal. and i said at the very beginning of the interview , very beginning of the interview, i don't think any government in the uk would have wanted to have taken these steps, but the whole system would grind to a halt if they hadn't made these decisions. and i think they've tried to protect the public as best they can as well. >> yeah. thank you . thank you >> yeah. thank you. thank you very, very much for your time. superb. there. that's the general secretary of the prison officers association, steve gillan there live from brighton. thank you. and lots more still to come between now and 5:00, including news from germany, as including news from germany, as in order to combat spiralling illegal immigration and islamist terrorism, they've taken the very bold decision to close all of its 2300 mile borders with every neighbouring country. will other nations follow suit? will the eu push back, and what does this mean for great britain? but first, here's your headlines with sophia wenzler.

>> martin. thank you. good afternoon from the gb newsroom at 433. these are your headlines. mps have approved the cut to the winter fuel allowance after the conservative motion to stop labour's plan to slash the payments for most pensioners was defeated. a total of 53 labour mps abstained on the vote, while labour mp jon trickett was the only rebel. the prime ministers defended the cut , calling it defended the cut, calling it a tough decision needed to tackle a £22 billion deficit. but critics, including some labour mps, warned it could force millions of pensioners to choose between heating and eating. despite the backlash, the government insists the cuts are necessary to secure the foundations of the economy . now foundations of the economy. now thousands of prisoners could be placed in taxpayer funded hotels as more than 1700 inmates walk free today in an effort to cut overcrowding in jails. the justice secretary says probation staff have been authorised to

use budget hotels if needed, after concerns were raised about re—offending because some inmates are unprepared and face homelessness. shabana mahmood insists the early release scheme is temporary, giving the government time to reform the prison system. >> if we had not done this, we faced courts unable to hold trials, police unable to make arrests and a total breakdown of law and order. >> this is not the long term solution. there is more that we must do, but it was the necessary first step that we had to take following the disgraceful dereliction of duty by the previous government. in other news, america's top diplomats confirmed iran has sent short range ballistic missiles to russia and predicts they will be used in ukraine within weeks. antony blinken gave the warning after strategic talks with the foreign secretary in london aimed at boosting the special relationship between the two nations. speaking alongside david lammy, blinken described the development as a threat to

all of europe. lammy echoed his concerns, calling the missile supply a significant escalation, and announced a joint trip to ukraine with blinken later this week . and a coroner has ruled week. and a coroner has ruled that there is no clear link between the appearance of a guest on the jeremy kyle show and his cause of death. 63 year old steve dymond was found dead at his home in portsmouth in may 2019, seven days after taking part in the show. hampshire coronerjason pegg said there was an absence of reliable evidence that the that the events on the show directly led to his death . those are the to his death. those are the latest gb news headlines. for now, i'm sophia wenzler more in half an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone , sign up to news smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . slash alerts. >> cheers! britannia wine club

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impose tougher controls at all of its land borders in a mass crackdown on irregular migration. the new regulations are due to start next monday and to be in place for an initial six months before being reviewed. now the islamic state group claimed responsibility for a knife attack in the western city of solingen that killed three people last month. that's one of the factors that has led to this new clampdown. i'm joined now by richard morley, who's the deputy leader of the rejoin eu party. richard, welcome to the show. so germany has taken a good drink of brexit. it decided to close all 2300 miles of its borders with the with denmark, the netherlands, belgium , netherlands, belgium, luxembourg, france, switzerland, austria, the czech republic and poland. and they're doing that because schengen open borders have been approvable and measurable disaster for germany in terms of illegal immigration, in terms of illegal immigration, in terms of soaring crime and islamist terror. you must be weeping into your muesli that

germany, the natural beating heart of the eu, is suddenly going all brexit on us. >> well, martin, nice to be with you again, the first thing i would like to say is that, of course, imposing border controls is not quite the same thing as a german exit from from eu. it's different from getting out of the single union and everything else, of course we are faced, all of us in across the world. in fact, with a very serious immigration problem, which has to be met with serious controls. and i do not believe that germany is doing anything which is unusual in terms of the common sense of the situation. in fact, i think germany is probably taking a leaf out of britain's, attitude on this and come to its senses. yes, border controls have to be instilled in germany for the simple reason that it faces a massive

immigration problem . immigration problem. >> emitting something astonishing. it's music to my ears. you're admitting freedom of movement . uncontrolled of movement. uncontrolled borders has been a disaster for germany, and therefore a disaster for europe. >> oh, no, not at all. what we're talking about is the control of illegal immigration, not freedom of movement . and not freedom of movement. and german people will be able to move across the boundaries into other european countries and live and settle there, as they did before. there's no problem for people who are legally resident in germany or in the other european nation, but talking about the control of illegal immigration, and that is something which of course, has to be done . to be done. >> okay. on that we can agree. but nevertheless, a lot of people who've been granted asylum legally have gone on to commit islamist terror within germany and doesn't this just

point to the fact of the matter that the ideological position of everyone should be free just to wander around europe? and that was absolutely central to the european dream. michel barnier, who's now the prime minister of france, he still says if the uk wants some kind of closer deal with the eu freedom of movement is the price we have to pay. we don't know who's coming to our country. germany clearly doesn't. it's ended in disaster for them. would you accept that ? for them. would you accept that? maybe it's time for britain to replicate germany and control all illegal immigration into our country, and a total stop on anybody coming in illegally? >> well, i think britain should always follow the path of europe being a pro—european person. and of course, germany is setting an example of what should be done in many countries, particularly in many countries, particularly in britain as well. of course , in britain as well. of course, we have to control illegal immigration. as i say, this is not about kerbing freedom of movement for proper citizens and

legally resident legal residents . legally resident legal residents. and that is something which britain is looking at and rightfully so, and something that germany is looking at and rightfully so , because the rightfully so, because the spread of illegal immigration is an issue not just against terrorism , but also against the terrorism, but also against the enormous, social costs and economic costs that uncontrolled illegal immigration will bring about for all countries in europe. >> richard morley, it's music to my ears that finally we are having this beautiful conversation about controlling our borders, being a wonderful thing. richard, i'll have your brexiteer soon one of these days. deputy leader of the joint eu party. thank you very, very much for joining eu party. thank you very, very much forjoining us. always much for joining us. always a great sport. thank you. now coming up, another tory leadership hopeful will be knocked out of the race later on today, leaving the final four to fight it out. can any of the remaining hopefuls get the tories back on track, or is the party destined to dwindle in the political i'm martin

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welcome back. it's 10 to 5. i'm martin daubney on gb news now. the king and queen have announced a royal autumn tour around australia , including tour around australia, including a visit to the independent state of samoa. and we're now joined by our royal correspondent cameron wahaca cameron. some fantastic news. much needed after yesterday's very emotional video from princess katherine. tell us more. >> yeah, yet more good news to be honest, martin. of course, doctors we knew had given the king the green light to travel. it is going to be the first long haul travel the king has done since his cancer diagnosis. but it's very clear from the information i've received this afternoon that adaptations have been made. for example, new zealand originally was on the agenda for the king and to queen travel to. that has now been ruled out on doctor's advice. that was that decision was made in close consultation with

buckingham palace and the governments of both australia and new zealand. i also understand that time has been factored in for the king to rest between engagements and between travel. of course, it's a long way to go halfway across the world in order to keep his energy levels up on that tour. but, you know, there's a big contrast here between because, of course, king is head of state in australia, and it's his first visit to the country as head of state. and a big contrast between that of his first tour and what the late queen did for her first tour of australia. so, for example, in 1954, the late queen elizabeth visited every state of australia, every territory, including seven capital cities and 70 towns in 58 days. in contrast to the king here he's going to be spending. we understand, less than a week in australia and he's only going to be visiting sydney and canberra. but granted, of course, the queen back then was in her 20s and king charles is in her 20s and king charles is in his mid 70s now, and clearly he's still undergoing cancer treatment. so, you know, adaptations have been made as

you probably expect. there's a variety of engagements, including military engagements, sustainability, culture. we understand king charles is going to be off to a barbecue one day in australia. but of course , in australia. but of course, because he's been mindful that he's undergoing cancer treatments, he's also going to be spending some melon going , be spending some melon going, going to have an engagement to do with melanoma. and cancer treatment. and of course, he's off to samoa for the commonwealth heads of government meeting too. >> superb stuff. cameron walker, the royals heading down under. great stuff. now coming up very shortly . another conservative shortly. another conservative leadership hopeful is set to be knocked out of the race, leaving the final four to fight it out. and those potentially facing the chop of james cleverly robert jenrick tom tugendhat, mel stride and kemi badenoch. now who might it be getting voted out today? well, i'm now joined by gb news political correspondent olivia utley olivia. we've got a short while to go till we find out who the final four are going to be, who's looking most likely to get the chop? >> well, we don't have very long to wait at all now, only about ten minutes. up until today, it looked very likely that mel

stride, the shadow work and pensions secretary, was going to be knocked out. he came last last week , priti patel was just last week, priti patel was just behind. she got knocked out , but behind. she got knocked out, but he came fifth with only 16 votes. that said, today there is talk on the ground that tom tugendhat might be the one to go. he came in fourth place with 17 votes and it is beginning to look as though mel stride has managed to pick up a bit of momentum over the last couple of days. he was on gb news this morning, saying that he is quietly confident. well, he said that last week and he was proved right. meanwhile, tom tugendhat seems to have been the victim of james cleverly. if you like the sort of one nation tories on the on the left of the party, the centre of the party, who may have flocked to tom tugendhat, seem instead to be looking to the former home secretary, seeing him as a sort of safe pair of hands. the grown up in the room, which is exactly what tom tugendhat is trying to make his usp . so it's between mel his usp. so it's between mel stride and tom tugendhat, unless

there are any huge surprises. and of course there might be, because there are only 122 conservative mps voting. we're talking about really, really small numbers here, but i suspect it will be between mel stride and tom tugendhat. we'll find out very soon. >> okay. superb. and olivia, of course they then go on to make their case at the conservative party conference in september 20th 9th september. and then it goes to the membership in the end in october. we'll see shortly after the top of the hour to get the full information on who's made it to the final foun on who's made it to the final four. now, coming up next on the show, as i said, it's more on the conservative leadership announcement , with one of the announcement, with one of the remaining five candidates set to face the chop in the race to replace rishi sunak . that's replace rishi sunak. that's coming next. i'm martin daubney on gb news now. here's your weather. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb. >> news . >> news. >> news. >> hello and welcome to the latest forecast from the met

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stride out of that race with the least number of votes there 16. he was expected to make a late turn. he did a dramatic speech earlier at the winter fuel cut for pensioners, but it wasn't quite enough. he has now gone. we'll have full reaction to that after your news headlines with sophia wenzler. >> martin, thank you. good afternoon. i'm sophia wenzler with your headlines just after 5:00. millions of pensioners will lose winter fuel payments after the conservative motion to stop labour's plan to slash the payments was defeated. a total of 53. labour the noes to the left, 348 kjt . a total of 53 left, 348 kjt. a total of 53 labour mps abstained on the vote, while labour mp jon trickett was the only rebel. the prime ministers defended the cut, calling it a tough decision needed to tackle a £22 billion

deficit. but critics , including deficit. but critics, including some labour mps, warned it could force millions of pensioners to choose between heating and eating. despite the backlash, the government insists the cuts are necessary to secure the foundations of the economy. now thousands of prisoners could be placed in taxpayer funded hotels as more than 1700 inmates walk free today in an effort to cut overcrowding in jails. the justice secretary says probation staff have been authorised to use budget hotels if needed, after concerns were raised about re—offending because some inmates are unprepared and face homelessness. shabana mahmood insists the early release scheme is temporary, giving the government time to reform the prison system . prison system. >> if we had not done this, we faced courts unable to hold trials, police unable to make arrests and a total breakdown of law and order. >> this is not the long term solution. there is more that we must do. but it was the

necessary first step that we had to take following the disgraceful dereliction of duty by the previous government . now, by the previous government. now, in other news, america's top diplomats confirmed iran has sent short range ballistic missiles to russia and predicts they will be used in ukraine within weeks. antony blinken gave the warning after strategic talks with the foreign secretary in london aimed at boosting the special relationship between the two nations. speaking alongside david lammy, mr blinken described the development as a threat to all of europe. mr lammy echoed his concerns, calling the missile supply a significant escalation, and announced a joint trip to ukraine with mr blinken later this week . now, sir keir starmer this week. now, sir keir starmer has warned that the economic challenges will shape future pay deals and that tough decisions lie ahead. as he took to the stage at the trades union congress as the first prime minister to address the tuc since gordon brown. he thanked those who ended the burden of tory rule in this year's general

election. but he warned that rebuilding britain would be a difficult long term task, pointing to a £22 billion black hole left by the conservatives. meanwhile, 31 people have been charged over last year's cardiff riots, sparked by the deaths of teenagers kyrees sullivan and harvey evans. the two boys died in a crash involving an e—bike after being followed by a police car. 27 face charges of riot, while four are charged with causing or threatening criminal damage. the defendants, aged between 15 and 53, are expected to appear at cardiff magistrates court in the coming weeks. a coroner has ruled that there is no clear link between the appearance of a guest on the jeremy kyle show and his cause of death. 63 year old steve dymond was found dead at his home in portsmouth in may 2019, seven days after taking part in the show. hampshire coroner jason pegg said there was an

absence of reliable evidence that the events on the show directly led to his death , and directly led to his death, and with just eight weeks to go before the us election, republican candidate donald trump and democratic vice president kamala harris are set to face off in their first and only debate tonight. both candidates are neck and neck in key battleground states, but the debate could be critical for harris as polls suggest many voters still don't know much about her. trump's team is urging him to focus on immigration and inflation, while harris is expected to attack the former president's record on abortion and the capitol riots. and you can watch all the action live overnight here on gb news with america decides trump versus harris starting at 2 am. and for private astronauts have launched into space on a spacex rocket kicking off the polaris dawn mission. the five day journey will test new spacesuits and feature the first private spacewalk, with astronauts

tethered to the spacecraft in the mission's riskiest manoeuvre. so far. the mission marks a significant step in private space exploration, taking the crew further from earth than anyone since the apollo moon program . those are apollo moon program. those are the latest gb news headlines for now. now it's back to martin for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . forward slash alerts. >> thank you sophia. now, as we just announced, a few moments ago, the former pension secretary mel stride is out of the tory leadership race. and let's get immediate reaction now with gb news political editor chris hope in westminster hall. chris, welcome to the show. tell us the full results . us the full results. >> yeah. martin. that's right. the full result is that robert jenrick is top. he's at 33. he

won a plus five from the last round of voting. kemi badenoch 28 plus six, james cleverly becalmed at 21. unchanged. the first round of voting and tom tugendhat plus four at 21 as well. mel stride , the former well. mel stride, the former work and pensions secretary, of course, has just been just been attacking labour over his withdrawal of the winter fuel payments. he is now out and those four will now go forward to the tory, conference in about two weeks time. and after that, two weeks time. and after that, two will go on to the membership. but with me now i've got a spokesman for james cleverly's team, greg smith, the mp for mid bucks. greg, your guy has not gained any votes. he's becalmed. he's stalling. is it all over? no, not at all. >> james is through. we're delighted james is through. the conference can be a game changing event in this leadership election. just like in 2005, where david cameron basically came from . nowhere. basically came from. nowhere. and i've got confidence with james's charisma. his communication skills. he's a brilliant communicator. he can

come through that conference, he can get the membership underneath him and that will boost my colleagues. i hope to vote for him to get through to the final two when we're back from conference recess. so you were formerly priti patel. >> what is james cleverly got that she hadn't got? >> look what james has got is fantastic communication skills. >> he can unite the party. when i look across the field i've got some brilliant colleagues running to be leader. but i think james can pull in support from all wings of the party to unite us, which is critical if we are to move forwards and win the next general election. in my constituency, the number one thing on the doors was that you lot are fighting amongst yourselves and you're divided. so if we don't unite, we can't win. and i think james is best placed to do that. >> and all of those names then robert jenrick kemi badenoch, james cleverly, tom tugendhat. do you think james cleverly can be the one who can connect with the with the members? that's what's going to matter. yeah, we've got some brilliant colleagues running for this, but you've got to make a choice. >> and for me, james is the best communicator. he's the one that can unite us, and he's the one

that can put together a platform that can put together a platform that can put together a platform that can excite the british public. >> about the conservatives again, is he a good opposition leader and less good as a prime minister? and what are you what are you voting for in this election? is it is it going to be in the next pm, or are you voting for somebody who can knock some chunks out of keir starmer? >> we're voting for both. you know, there's no sugarcoating it. we're in opposition for the next 4 or 5 years. so yes, we've got to have a good communicator who can hold labour to account and stop their worst excesses. but we've also got to put forward that platform to excite the british public about the conservatives again, that means we can actually have a serious chance of earning the right to be heard and setting out a platform that will win the next general election. and yes, that means james, as leader of the opposition and hopefully our future prime minister. >> and just finally, a former home secretary, he was in charge in part, in part of the time when we've had record net migration uncontrolled, it seems illegal migration that will be pinned on him, won't it? when members get the chance to quiz him? >> well, those numbers were starting to trend down. and you know what? there was an enormous

raft of legislation that i voted for in the last parliament that was set up to challenge this. there are things in the nationality and borders act that were never enacted that could be enacted. we did have rwanda as a deterrent. that labour have scrapped. and so actually, when the numbers are trending down and we had things in place that were going to improve the situation, i'd say james actually has a good record. >> okay. well, greg smith, thank you for joining >> okay. well, greg smith, thank you forjoining us. and martin that was greg smith. he's mp for mid bucks. and he's backing james cleverly former of priti patel camp. now with me also if you'll bear with me i'm joined now by mark francois. he's supporting robert jenrick in his leadership campaign. mark francois your guy is winning. but as you know the frontrunner never wins. this one. >> well, let's wait and see what how it goes at the conference. >> i mean, the first thing to say is commiserations to mel stride, who fought a very good campaign, did well in the chamber today, but we've now got four very strong candidates to go to the conference for our members to interview and talk to, and obviously we are pleased

that robert is in the lead. he's won both ballots with a clear margin. so we believe he is the candidate with momentum. >> his record is sketchy in office. he was an immigration minister over some period when we had record net migration and illegal migration. it won't. members put that one on him? >> no, because, you know, migration is now starting to fall as a result of some of the measures that robert put in place. i think a key thing for our membership is that robert resigned on a point of honour because he felt there were weaknesses in the rwanda legislation. he felt he couldn't honourably take that bill through the house of commons. so he did the constitutionally correct thing, and he resigned. and i hope and believe that our members will respect that, because, as you and i both know , because, as you and i both know, chopper, that's a pretty rare thing in modern politics. >> what is it about robert jenrick that makes you think he can be a good leader of the opposition and maybe even prime minister? >> well, one of the things i just mentioned, i think he's a man of principle and we must unite the conservative party,

and he's now got support from people like victoria atkins and john lamont at one sort of end of the politics of the tory party, andrew rosindell myself at the other. so he's drawing support right across the mps and also generationally, you've got old sweats like me with 23 years service and quite a few of the newbies who've been here a couple of months are voting for him too. so he's got support across the party, both ideologically, if you like, and also in terms of age range. so i think he's really best placed to unite us. and he goes into the party conference in the lead with considerable momentum. >> a big issue for members and voters is trust. i think, as you might admit this, the electorate stopped trusting the tory party to deliver on taxation , on to deliver on taxation, on immigration and elsewhere. robert jenrick has been on his own on his own journey, hasn't he? he voted to remain, is he? i mean, can you trust him? you are. you're one of the spartans.

you're one of the true the true believers in brexit. why do you think voters members can back robert jenrick on brexit? >> well, i might humbly say to our party members, if i, as a spartan as you say, as a long standing brexiteer, could trust robert, i would hope that they could do that too. i've given you one example of when he took a very principled decision and he would say if he were here, that was his epiphany. it was going to the home office and being the immigration minister, that's when he realised the extent to which the echr is really interfering in our everyday lives. and he's the only one of the candidates who's given a very clear pledge that we should leave the convention. and again, i think that will resonate well with our membership. >> what do you say to the critics who say robert jenrick is an identikit typical sort of tory mp? he's lost some weight. he looks a bit fighting fit, but, you know, he looks like a classic tory, whereas the other candidates are different. james cleverly kemi badenoch of course they have ethnic minority .

they have ethnic minority. you've got tom tugendhat, who's this kind of former served in the armed forces like you did, i believe. i mean is he is he has he got enough to excite voters, do you think? robert jenrick. >> yeah. i mean, we've got four strong candidates going to the conference. so from a conservative perspective , that's conservative perspective, that's an encouraging thing. but i don't think we're going to pick them ultimately on what they happen to weigh or what colour of tie they're happening to wear. i think what our voluntary party members are, quite rightly, they have the final decision. i think what they really want is someone who can unite and lead and give a principled direction for the party, and without any disparagement to the other three, i genuinely believe that robert is the best person to do that. >> well, mark. mark francois, a brexiteer to his to his core on why he's backing robert jenrick to be a leader who did of course come first in the leadership election in the fourth, the second round of voting. i'll just go back to those numbers for you, martin quickly. robert

jenrick 33. kevin badenoch, 28 of mps supported them. james cleverly and tom tugendhat tied on 21. those four names will go forward to the tory party conference, when they'll be grilled and debated about amongst members. mps then find produce two from that number to go to the final vote. the final result on november the 2nd, some time away . time away. >> okay, chris. so it seems on the basis of what we saw there, the basis of what we saw there, the party is tacking towards the right and not towards the centre. chris of course, can we just quickly reflect upon a huge vote earlier on today in the commons, dramatically, of course, the decision was made that 10 million british pensioners will lose their winter fuel allowance . chris, winter fuel allowance. chris, run us through the numbers. an astonishing majority. 348 mps voted to axe that. and chris, every single one of them was a labour party mp . labour party mp. >> that's right, and 53 abstentions. 53 labour mps, for whatever reason, chose not to support this controversial

policy pushed through by rachel reeves, the chancellor, to save £1.3 reeves, the chancellor, to save £13 billion this year, £1.5 £1.3 billion this year, £1.5 billion next year. but look at the cost of that. i mean, the government spends money in all sorts of ways, but this labour government has chosen to remove £300 for those over 80, £200 for those under 80 who are pensioners . that money is vital pensioners. that money is vital to keep so many of them warm. that's removed by this government in november. it becomes law next week. nothing can stop it now. this government to its credit, did give labour mps of all stripes a vote on the policy. they didn't have to do that. that's to its credit. but really this will be hung around like an albatross around this government for its entire time in power until the next election. it'll be the first line, as we heard from lee anderson, the reform uk mp, the first line on leaflets being prepared now for the next election. and it could even be seen as damaging, maybe, just maybe, to this government, as the tuition fee debate was for the tuition fee debate was for the lib dems back in the early years of the coalition, a big moment here in politics. again, to remind you, there are 53 labour mps did not support it.

one rebelled jon trickett. we're waiting to see whether he will lose the whip and stop being a labour mp. that's almost certain, but we'll wait for that to be confirmed. but a big moment here in parliament, a big day in parliament altogether. >> and chris obama joined later in the show by the founder of the pensioner vote, a grassroots campaign and the founder of that says he's putting together a list of shame of those 348 labour mps, all labour mps has to be pointed out. he thinks this could haunt them at the next election. thank you very much. there. that's gb news, the political editor. chris obe packed day in politics. superb job as ever. thank you very much. i got lots more on that story on our website and thanks to you gb news. com. it's the fastest growing national news website in the country. it's got breaking news and all the brilliant analysis that you come to expect from us here @gbnews. now it's time now for the great british giveaway and the biggest cash prize we've ever given away. £36,000 tax free could all be yours. and that's like having an extra three grand tax free in your bank account every month

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>> britain's news channel. >> britain's news channel. >> welcome back to the show. and it's a huge day in politics. and in fact let's cross back now to gb news political editor chris hope, who is in westminster hall. chris, are you with now? >> martin i'm still here in westminster hall and with me now is james wilde, the tory mp for nonh is james wilde, the tory mp for north west norfolk and a supporter of tom tugendhat's leadership campaign. james wilde, your guy came last. is it all over? >> no, not at all. i'm pleased tom has put on some extra support from the last round. he's got the best favorability ratings with both the party and the public, and he's the guy who can take the fight to labour. >> he's mostly inexperienced, though, isn't he? i mean, can he really beat someone who's been, for example, in james cleverly's case, a foreign secretary or home secretary? kemi badenoch was in the cabinet. so was robert jenrick. >> well, tom served our country in the army. he served as a security minister. he served in parliament. he's got a lot of experience, a lot of ideas. and if he wins, he'll want to build a team around him that can defeat the labour party and win back the trust of the british

people. >> is he in tune, do you think, with the base, the base of the party is seen to be pretty much quite right wing? and he's quite a centrist, maybe even a wet in old in old language of the thatcherite years. >> i don't really recognise that left right, wet, centrist language tom has done over 50 constituencies so far, met with dozens, hundreds of activists. he's got a positive reception. that's why he's got favorability ratings that are strong within the party. but that's why we now go to conference where he can set out his stall to those members. more clearly and hopefully win more support of colleagues when we come back for the final two. >> okay. and what makes you back in? what's a single single quality that make you makes you back him? >> i think he's got the character and he's got a positive vision of conservatism about happiness and prosperity for people. i think that's what people want to hear. we want to hear someone who believes in our country, who wants it to do better. >> james whale, thank you. that's james wilde there, the conservative mp for north west norfolk backing tom tugendhat. again. he got 20 for support of 21 mp5 again. he got 20 for support of 21 mps up four on the first round of voting. now with me now is the final spokesperson i suppose mp supporter for the for

the in leadership campaign. we've spoken to yet it's the nigel huddleston forgive me . nigel huddleston forgive me. nigel huddleston forgive me. nigel huddleston, the mp for droitwich and evesham speaking for kemi badenoch. nigel, thank you for joining for kemi badenoch. nigel, thank you forjoining us again. so it's been a long day with lots of different guests . yes. that of different guests. yes. that was that was what threw me. thank you for joining was that was what threw me. thank you forjoining us again, thank you for joining us again, kevin. kevin badenoch, she gained six. she she gained the most since the first round of voting. has she got momentum finally. she has . finally. she has. >> i mean, this is definitely momentum. and i think it's

dripping wet. >> i think in the terminology you you commented on a minute ago. >> but i think kemi can can bnng >> but i think kemi can can bring the party together because she's focused on the common ground and she's focused on values, what it means to be a conservative. but i worked really closely with her. >> i've seen her in action, i've seen her attention to detail, but also she's a great team player. you know, she praises you when you do well and she gives you subtle encouragement when you don't. but you know, she is she is the person who can take the fight to labour. i mean, a lot of labour mps are worried about kemi being opposite keir starmer in the chamber. i think that is good enough reason to vote for her. >> she's the one labour fear most. >> i think she is. and several members have told me that nigel huddleston, thank you for joining us. >> a rush there, rush there with four spokespeople. martin, for the four candidates to go forward into the tory party conference, where we'll see members grill them all on gb news. and finally after that, the final two to go forward to the final two to go forward to the membership base. just to remind you all, we won't get a

result. a new tory leader until november, the second. >> chris hope sterling work there all day long. thank you very much there from westminster hall. great stuff. now moving on. germany has announced plans to impose tougher controls at all of its land borders in a mass crackdown on irregular migration, new regulations are due to start next monday and to be in place for an initial six months before being reviewed . months before being reviewed. the islamic state group claimed responsibility for a knife attack in the western city of soungen attack in the western city of solingen that killed three people last month. that's another reason why this has happened. we're joined now to discuss this by the physician and the journalist doctor paul brandenburg , doctor brandenburg, brandenburg, doctor brandenburg, welcome to the show . the rest of welcome to the show. the rest of us in europe, in the european union. before we left, we all felt that germany was the one nafion felt that germany was the one nation that had its borders open to the world, to show its peace, its welcoming and its prosperity. and of course , prosperity. and of course, events have changed. tell us about this bold decision. >> yeah. well, martin, thanks for having me.

>> true. yeah. ever since the 2015, when angela merkel decided to open the gates, actually. and she said , we are going to make she said, we are going to make this. wir schaffen das. that's what she said . migrants have what she said. migrants have been flooding in, asylum seekers have been flooding into germany with at the same time, a giant surge in stabbings, many of them lethal. a giant surge in group rapes with the victims being often being children. even german federal police reported these numbers ever since 2018. official reports stated that the vast majority of these perpetrators are actually asylum seekers, or so—called people with migration background. nevertheless, the german minister for the interior, nancy fraser, has been a strong opponent of any form of border control, any form of toughening. that's what she now said toughening taking place actually, during the recent olympics in paris, we had border controls for the first time since years, and the german federal police reported that they had a massive amount of

open warrants that they could execute now that they had a gigantic number of illegal immigration attempts that they could stop at the border. and ever since that happened, the a lot of public criticism was loud and many people called for more border patrols, of course, with the loudest opponent being the afd, the party that is considered by many being the only oppositional party in germany at the same time. this party is slandered as being a right extremist or nazi party by the german minister of the interior. well, these , these interior. well, these, these this party. just recently, about a week ago , had two gigantic a week ago, had two gigantic wins in local elections . so the wins in local elections. so the timing of nancy fraser's attempt or initiative to introduce border controls is probably not a coincidence. it comes directly after fraser's party lost a gigantic amount of voters, and they really dropped to nothing. you could say nancy fraser's party, the social democrats, is in panic. so she came up with this with this new initiative. >> and doctor brandenburg, are you expecting any pushback? the austrian government has said they're not happy about the fact

of course, they're one of your neighbouring countries, along with denmark, the netherlands, belgium, luxembourg, france , belgium, luxembourg, france, switzerland, czech republic and poland. what about brussels? brussels? surely they they might have a pushback. the european union would not be happy about this . this. >> no. but, martin, just a few hours ago, actually three hours ago, right now, a german tabloid, bild, which is sort of the equivalent to your sun, i guess, reported that fazer already backed out of her plans. they obviously had a summit. they obviously had a summit. they called it the asylum summit between the acting government in germany and the largest opposition party being the conservatives, the cdu, the party that actually introduced this open border policy . and this open border policy. and obviously fazer already stated that the so—called thorough controls or tough controls will not affect people, that that do not affect people, that that do not ask for asylum. so they will actually be no change from the present, from the present situation. it seems right now as if that was just really a scam move or something, to just ask for electoral purposes. so most

likely nothing will change in german border policies. yet again. >> okay, well that's superb of doctor paul brandenburg and there'll be a lot of people watching this in the united kingdom and wish that we could get as tough with our borders as germany. thank you very much for joining us on the show. always a pleasure. now, lots more still to come between now and 6:00, including the president of the turkish republic of northern cyprus is visiting the uk this week with a key aim of calling on the uk to be bold and stand up against the united nations and the eu. that's my kind of talk. but first, here's your latest news headlines with sophia wenzler. >> martin thank you. good afternoon from the gb newsroom. it's just gone 530. these are your headlines. just to recap on that breaking news, former cabinet minister mel stride has been knocked out of the conservative leadership race after receiving just 16 votes. the former immigration minister robert jenrick finished top with 33 votes, with kemi badenoch

second on 28, while james cleverly and tom tugendhat both got 21 votes each from tory mps . got 21 votes each from tory mps. now, mps have approved the cut to the winter fuel allowance after the conservative motion to stop labour's plan to slash the payments for most pensioners was defeated. a total of 53 labour mps abstained on the vote, while labour mp jon trickett was the only rebel . the prime minister only rebel. the prime minister has defended the cut, calling it a tough decision needed to tackle a £22 billion deficit. but critics , including some but critics, including some labour mps, warned it could force millions of pensioners to choose between heating and eating. despite the backlash, the government insists the cuts are necessary to secure the foundations of the economy. in other news, thousands of prisoners could be placed in taxpayer funded hotels as more than 1700 inmates walk free today in an effort to cut overcrowding in jails. the

justice secretary says probation staff have been authorised to use budget hotels if needed, after concerns were raised about re—offending because some inmates are unprepared and face homelessness . shabana inmates are unprepared and face homelessness. shabana mahmood insists the early release scheme is temporary, giving the government time to reform the prison system. now america's top diplomats confirmed iran has sent short range ballistic missiles to russia and predicts they'll be used in ukraine within weeks. antony blinken gave the warning after strategic talks with the foreign secretary in london aimed at boosting the special relationship between the two nations. speaking alongside david lammy , mr blinken david lammy, mr blinken described the development as a threat to all of europe. mr lammy echoed his concerns , lammy echoed his concerns, calling the missile supply a significant escalation , and significant escalation, and announced a joint trip to ukraine with mr blinken later this week. those are the latest gb news headlines. for now, i'm sophia wenzler more in half an hour for the very latest gb news

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channel. welcome back. your time is 539. i'm martin daubney on gb news now. this week the president of the turkish republic of northern cyprus has been visiting the uk for a three day engagement meeting with uk parliamentarians commemorating 50 years since the turkish intervention in cyprus. the key aim for the week is calling on the uk to be bold and to stand up against the united nafions to stand up against the united nations and the european union to honour its commitments in reinstating direct flights and trade with northern cyprus. i'm delighted to say i'm now joined in the studio with the president of northern cyprus , ersin tatar. of northern cyprus, ersin tatar. welcome to the studio. a delight to have you here, mr president. so tell us about the two reasons that you are here. the 50 year anniversary. for starters, let's begin with that. >> well, 50 years of the turkish

intervention in cyprus because 50 years ago there was a coup d'etat . colonists from greece, d'etat. colonists from greece, with their collaborators in cyprus to unite cyprus with greece , which was a violation of greece, which was a violation of the cyprus constitution. so turkey, as a guarantor power, had to intervene to protect the turkish cypriots and to stop unification of cyprus with greece, which was, as i said, violation of the constitution. since then, the turkish cypriots have consolidated their position in the north. the turkish repubuc in the north. the turkish republic of northern cyprus , republic of northern cyprus, greek cypriots in the south, the repubuc greek cypriots in the south, the republic of cyprus. they are called, but in fact they are a pure greek cypriot state. so let's make it absolutely clear to the british viewers who are watching this program . in watching this program. in cyprus, there are two states and these two states have been in practice since 1963. in the 1960s, the republic of cyprus was founded when the british left the island because, as you know, it was a british colony.

the british left the island in 1960. in return, the british got two sovereign bases. you have two sovereign bases. you have two sovereign bases in the repubuc two sovereign bases in the republic of cyprus and then you promise as a guarantor power to the cypriots that the turkish cypriots will be equal co—founders of the republic of cyprus with greek cypriots. but in 1963, the then president makarios did say this is just a stepping stone to enosis uniting cyprus to greece and the turkish cypriots . pure turkish cypriots cypriots. pure turkish cypriots were pushed out of the republic and we had to wait. turkey our motherland, guarantor power to intervene in cyprus to correct the situation. this situation did give us the opportunity 50 years ago with the turkish intervention, so that the turkish cypriots gained their independence in a way to restore order and the turkish cypriots to exist, or to at least coexist with the greek cypriots on the island. so now i am calling for justice, the justice being the

greek cypriots, they have their state recognised. they are now a member of the european union after the annan plan. i don't know if you remember 20 years ago when they were unfairly said no to the plan, despite saying no to the plan, despite saying no to the plan, despite saying no to the plan, they were rewarded by being a member of the european union . turkish the european union. turkish cypriots were promised just say yes, whatever the outcome, we will lift the embargo and isolation of the turkish cypriots. we said yes to the plan and we have failed down miserably because these embargoes and isolation, including direct flights , still including direct flights, still are imposed on turkish cypriots because the greek cypriots are now abusing their position in the european union, saying basically , let's push these basically, let's push these turkish cypriots more and more down with the embargoes so that they are , in a way, forced to be they are, in a way, forced to be imposed a solution. we will be never impose a solution. >> so president tartar, you are in the uk, you've been speaking in the uk, you've been speaking in parliament today. there are some 300,000 turkish cypriots here in the uk. what would you like to see the uk do to step up

to help your country out? >> well, basically we have got 300,000 plus turkish cypriot origin living in the uk. we have a lot of british friends. we probably have more than 20,000 british people living in north cyprus. we have over the years, obviously very good connections we have. we call our people here british, turkish cypriots. they are integrated into british society. we have thousands of people who do support the turkish cypriots. but unfortunately this inequality is still consistent. therefore, i have asked the british parliamentarians and british government as much as i can. i want direct flights because obviously i want my state, the turkish republic of northern cyprus, to be recognised so that we can coexist with our friends in the south with a two state solution as well . why a two solution as well. why a two state solution? because we have had our own state for the last 60 years. they have had their own state for the last six years. after all these years, unification is absolutely impossible for a settlement on a federal basis. for 50 years there have been negotiations, including this annan plan and lately 2017, the crans—montana

meetings all failed miserably because everybody knows whoever was involved in these meetings know very well because the because they are recognised state, they are in the european union. they are not ready and they have not been ready to share power with and governance of the island with the turkish cypriots. so why force all this which is not acceptable? and all these opportunities have been exhausted over the years. so my new vision is a two state solution because we already have two states on the island for the last six years. let's cooperate on energy, on water, on natural resources . there are many resources. there are many opportunities that we can, you know, cooperate, which would be a win win situation for both sides. >> so thank you very much for joining us in the studio. an inspiring talk. that's president ersin tatar there. thank you very much for joining ersin tatar there. thank you very much forjoining us in the studio. thank you. now next with the government in favour to scrap winter fuel payments, what impact will all of this have on pensions? i'll be joined next by the founder of the pensioner vote, who's drawing up a list of

shame of the mps who voted today to scrap that allowance. i'm martin daubney on gb news britain's news channel

now you can see donald trump and kamala harris go head to head in their first presidential debate live on gb news overnight tonight, tom harwood presents america decides trump v harris and that's exclusively live from 2 am. here on gb news. and of course we'll have full reaction to that historic debate on the show tomorrow. now, members of parliament have voted to approve the government's cut to the winter fuel allowance. 348 voted in favour of the government and 228 voted against, with 53 abstentions. now the motion that has been voted on was put forward by the conservatives, and it was to cancel the

government's move to cut the £300 payment to pensioners. i can now speak with the founder of the pensioner vote and that's david pinless. david welcome to the show. the second time in two days we've had you on yesterday we talked about how you were building a grassroots movement with a view to printing a list of shame of all of the mps who voted to axe the winter fuel allowance. well, now that vote has taken part. david anneliese, can i get your initial reaction to the fact i know you? you're standing up for ordinary grassroots , working class grassroots, working class pensioners who are very, very worried about the winter ahead, about being colder and poorer today for 10 million pensioners. david pinless that became reality. >> martin, thank you again for having me. >> just to say that after i was on your show yesterday at about 6:00, just before 6:00. i didn't look at the website again until i came up to bed, and i was staggered to find that about

3000 people had joined yesterday evening as a result of my having been on your show, so thank you very much for that. it did cause 1 or 2 technical problems, and the email server went into meltdown, and i had to temporarily suspend the joining page, but it's now back up. so anybody who tried to join and had a problem yesterday, i do apologise. i'll be addressing all your concerns very shortly. please be patient with me because i'm here alone in a bedroom, typing up all these details. but what i would like to do, martin, is tell you some of the amazing feedback i've had from people who've joined the website , and some of it website, and some of it i actually can't read out, which probably won't surprise you. maybe the most extreme reaction i had was somebody called it state sponsored murder . okay, state sponsored murder. okay, another person sent me a photograph of a dinghy as a made up photograph of a dinghy with pensioners in it, and this person said they were going to get the eurostar train to france and come back on a dinghy, and then they would be treated

better. another lady, she sent me a photograph of a letter she received from the wdp, the department of work and pensions , department of work and pensions, and they informed her that she was unsuccessful in trying to claim pension credit and therefore unsuccessful in getting the winter fuel allowance. it's said to her that her pension is £221 per week, and she would only receive pension credit if she earns less than £218. a £3 difference. so just just listen to this logic. if somebody who say earned £210 a week could apply for pension credit, receive it and therefore get the winter fuel allowance, they would end up getting much more money than the lady who was getting £21, £221 a week. it's just doesn't make sense at all. now yes, another person wrote to me saying they would . they had me saying they would. they had been trying to apply. so i'm looking down at my paper here for quoting. they had tried to apply for quoting. they had tried to

apply for pension credit online and after question number 200 and after question number 200 and after question number 200 and a couple of hours of confusion, they decided to give up. are you not surprised then, martin, that it's probably the most under claimed benefit that there is now , in a bizarre there is now, in a bizarre example of hypocrisy, i understand that mps who earn more than £90,000 a year are entitled to claim heating allowance on their second homes. some of them claim it, some of them don't. and i actually contacted a number of mps to ask them are they claiming heating allowance on their second homes, and if so , isn't this being and if so, isn't this being hypocritical? none of them replied and two of them blocked me. how about that . other me. how about that. other comments i received from people on the website. i voted labour, but i have buyer's remorse. they are destroying our country , are destroying our country, listen to this one i am. i am disabled and have a number of

health issues. i always shop late afternoon , she says, in the late afternoon, she says, in the hope of picking up reduced ticket out of date items to eat. despite this, my relatives still have to bring me meals. okay, i also have congratulations for sticking up for pensioners and, pretty harsh. this one. labour. labour are evil criminals who will rob pensioners 1.5 billion to pay other countries climate change nonsense and support inflation busting public sector pay inflation busting public sector pay rises. you're getting the mood of this just to be fair and give balance, 1 or 2 people wrote in favour of scrapping the winter fuel allowance. one person said it was the fault of brexit and another one, said i'm quoting . i shall be writing to quoting. i shall be writing to my mp and thanking them for cutting the frivolous state handout to and thousands of unemployed millionaires just to

give you balance. >> okay, david, we well then there we have to call it time there. but please come on again, an astonishing, catalogue there. but please come on again, an astonishing , catalogue there an astonishing, catalogue there of personal stories. thank you very, very much. and of course, that list of shame, 348 mps, no doubt many of your users will be writing to them to let them know how they feel about today's historic vote. thank you very much. that was david pinless, the founder of the pensioner vote. well, it's been an historic day in politics, truly. 348 mp5 historic day in politics, truly. 348 mps voting to scrap the winter fuel allowance. what does that make you think? let me know. the usual way. i'll be back tomorrow, 3 to 6 pm. thanks for all your input on today's show. a huge day in politics. have a fantastic evening! how's your weather with aidan mcgivern ? aidan mcgivern? >> looks like things are heating up . up. >> boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news >> hello and welcome to the latest forecast from the met

office for gb news rain clearing south during the rest of today followed by blustery showers and turning much colder for the next few days. we've seen a weather front move across northern parts of the country earlier on, and it's now setting up across central england into mid wales and the south, and that rain will well, it will be on and off through the evening, but eventually clear following on from that, clear spells , from that, clear spells, blustery winds and frequent showers . heavy rain for shetland showers. heavy rain for shetland could cause some issues during the rest of the day and frequent showers coming to the north and west of scotland. northern ireland, northwest england and parts of north wales. elsewhere, clear skies overnight and with the colder winds arriving, it's going to be a fresh start to wednesday. some places in the mid to low single figures, but it's also going to be a blustery start with further heavy showers coming into the north and west of scotland. a few flakes of snow possible over the tops of the mountains in scotland and at lower levels. possibility of

some hail. and across western scotland, northern ireland, northwest england as well as northwest england as well as north and west wales. those showers will be merging into longer spells of rain to give a thoroughly unsettled and soggy start to wednesday, but the showers will mostly be affecting these northern and northwestern coasts. elsewhere, brighter skies and i think for parts of southwest england, the showers will be few and far between with plenty of sunny spells. but it's going to feel cold whether you've got the showers coming through or the sunny spells. with temperatures significantly below average for the time of year 1516 celsius in the south, 11 to 13 further north and in some places, temperatures staying in the single figures for much of the day. further showers coming through on wednesday evening. again, they'll mostly be affecting the nonh they'll mostly be affecting the north and the west, although 1 or 2 showers could arrive elsewhere. a drier day to come on friday with plenty of sunshine after a very chilly start to the day for the time of year into saturday and sunday, plenty of dry weather in the south. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers, sponsors of weather on gb.

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labour mps didn't even have the backbone to vote, giving starmer the dilemma of to how punish them, plus clips that will make your blood boil. tonight criminals will get out of jail early, cards popping corks on their release. is this starmer's sensible or reckless solution to overcrowded prisons? let me know what you think. the prime minister was in brighton this morning at the trade union congress, spreading more doom and gloom about the economic challenges ahead and warning the unions to some degree not to get their hopes up. but do you believe that he will push back

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