live. >> very good morning to you. happy weekend and thank you for joining us this morning for what is promising to be an action packed show. we'll get stuck into all of the day's top stories with our panel. danny crates and nicola mclean . crates and nicola mclean. >> lovely stuff. a british tv exclusive coming up where we meet american superstar mary bonnet from the hit netflix series selling sunset. mary is flesh fresh off the plane from la, where series eight of selling sunset dropped this week to huge critical acclaim. we're going to get the inside scoop from mary on life behind the scenes. her feud with british co—star chelsee lasken, and what it's like selling $30 million houses as one of america's top estate agents. she's live in the studio. in the next few minutes , studio. in the next few minutes, and we'll be joined by a former detective and the director of crime con to share with us an upcoming true crime event in the uk and why the genre is gaining massive popularity over .

massive popularity over. here. >> come on then, ellie. selling sunset netflix what's it all about? because i only just got stuck into it this week. you are a big fan. >> i'm a big fan. there's something for everybody. it is essentially luxury real estate in los angeles, and it's an all female brokerage, essentially, who sell these million dollar houses. they are so glam and you can imagine the drama and the gossiping that goes on between this bunch of women. it's a fantastic show. it's often in the most watched shows in the uk, and now we have one of the biggest stars from that show, the vice president of the oppenheim group, mary brownite. she's going to be with us in the next few minutes. we can't wait. you just got you've just started watching it. >> before i watched it, i said to ellie, well, i watched one episode and i said, it's a bit like a cross between real housewives of cheshire and say, location, location. i love it because of the sort of societal drama, but also the properties on this program in la. amazing $30 million mansions overlooking

the pacific. something to behold. >> yeah, out of this world. if you haven't watched it, make sure you do. if you have watched it and you've got a question for mary burnett, do let us know what it is. gbnews.com slash your say. >> but before we get stuck into what is going to be a very, very big show, sophie reaper has all your news headlines . your news headlines. >> thank you ben. it's 10:02 and now it's >> thank you ben. it's10:02 and now it's time for your latest headunes now it's time for your latest headlines from the gb newsroom. prime minister sir keir starmer met with president joe biden last night to discuss strategy and tactics regarding ukraine and tactics regarding ukraine and the middle east. meeting at the white house in washington, dc, the pair sat down for talks that sir keir described as long and productive. speaking afterwards, the pm also said that he and the us president had reached a strong position regarding ending the conflict in ukraine. >> we've stood with ukraine. ukraine has a right to self—defence and we've stood united, not just with our allies

here in the us, but across with our nato allies. that's very, very important to us. but today was about having the chance to talk not just about a particular step or tactic, but the strategy in relation to ukraine. but also we cover the middle east in some extensive detail and other areas across the world. so it's a really important occasion for us to have this chance to discuss with our allies. >> meanwhile , back on home soil, >> meanwhile, back on home soil, more questions have been asked about the government's decision to cut winter fuel payments following a vote earlier this week. figures released by the department for work and pensions estimated that almost 800,000 pensioners will miss out on the benefit under the new plans. of those set to lose the support, around two thirds have a disability and 83% are aged 80 or over. downing street has said that a full impact assessment of the change has not yet taken place. staying with politics now and a rebellion could be brewing within the labour party following recent comments by the

pm around a ban on smoking outdoors at pubs. labour mp for newcastle upon tyne east and wallsend, mary glindon, has tabled a motion in parliament against her own party in to order try and block the potential plans in the motion . potential plans in the motion. she praised the indoor smoking ban of two thousand and seven, but said that extending the ban outdoors could unduly restrict individual liberty. today is the first day of the lib dem party conference in brighton, with the cost of living, defence and veterans, climate change and, crucially, their plan to fix the nhs. as some of the topics on the agenda. the party won 72 seats in july's general election. their best ever result and more than six times the number they took in 2019. speaking from the conference earlier, the deputy leader for the scottish liberal democrats, wendy chamberlain, spoke about the need for parties to work together to tackle the broken nhs without supporting social care . care. >> and we've been very clear that we are keen to work on a cross—party basis to solve it because no matter what party is

in power. social care is an issue that is not going away. but if you don't support social care , you're not going to care, you're not going to fundamentally sort the problems within the nhs. keir starmer has said that fixing the nhs is a ten year job. said that fixing the nhs is a ten yearjob. he said that fixing the nhs is a ten year job. he won't be said that fixing the nhs is a ten yearjob. he won't be able ten year job. he won't be able to do that unless he keeps other parties onside, so that we can all do that work together. >> later this afternoon, a rally is expected to take place in glasgow. ten years on from the scottish independence referendum organised by hope over fear, the event marks a decade since scots took took to the polls to vote on independence from the uk . the on independence from the uk. the funeral of olympic athlete rebecca cheptegei is taking place in her home country of uganda this morning. the runner died earlier this month after she was doused with petrol and set alight by her former boyfriend. she had recently returned from competing in the paris olympics when the attack took place , and today is the took place, and today is the return of strictly come dancing.

the bbc show is back and celebrating its 20th year, but following a series of controversies, many will be watching to see how the show will handle allegations against some of the professional dancers. just some of the famous faces appearing on the show. this series include football pundh this series include football pundit paul merson, singer shayne ward and olympic gold medallist tom dean and sam quek . medallist tom dean and sam quek. those are your latest gb news headlines. more from me in the next hour i'm sophie reaper. now it's back to ellie and ben for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone , sign up to to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com >> forward slash alerts . >> forward slash alerts. >> forward slash alerts. >> thanks obe and welcome to saturday morning live with me. ellie costello and ben leo. now we've got a treat for you right now because season eight of the hit netflix show selling sunset has just dropped. and if you're

like me and fans all around the world, you've wasted no time to binge the entire series in a very short space of time, lapping up the drama from the agents at the oppenheim group. >> so if you don't know the show, you didn't. i didn't until this week. i absolutely love it now. and you'd be surprised because typically it wouldn't be down my street. but i tuned in this week to obviously research mary, of course, and i love it. so the show, if you don't know it, follows real estate agents in los angeles who work at one of the most luxurious and high end agencies in america, selling anything from, well, $6 million apartments to $40 million mega mansions. but beyond flogging houses to the world's wealthiest people, selling sunset follows the trials and tribulations of oppenheim's workforce of glam estate agents as they work hard and play harder in sun drenched california. >> yeah, it's a great watch. we're delighted to be joined now by one of the leading stars and one of the top agents from the show, vice president of the oppenheim group, mary bonnet, fresh from los angeles. really good to see you. this morning, mary. thank you so much for

coming on. how is it being part of this global phenomenon which is selling sunset? >> it's fun. it's interesting. i mean , it's a lot of drama and mean, it's a lot of drama and exhausting at the same time because of all the craziness with the girls. but, i mean, there's so many opportunities. i just got to present at the ntas and we get so many just incredible opportunities. so, so it's been a ride for sure. >> so i just mentioned to you off air, it's typically reality tv is not kind of my bag, but i tuned in to series eight this week, and the first five minutes i was thinking, yeah, i'm not. not too sure. then i really got into it because it's not just kind of like reality tv following you guys around and all your storylines, which are fascinating, but the amazing properties i love some of the homes you're selling $30 million mansions. yeah. yeah. incredible. >> yeah , absolutely. we have >> yeah, absolutely. we have some of the world's best real estate. it's so nice and i'm lucky.i estate. it's so nice and i'm lucky. i have a lot of great clients, a lot of great listings, and i've got actually

a new one coming up. it's going to be different though. this time it's a 7000 acre cattle ranch for 25 million. yeah. so it's going to be very interesting. you can like develop on it and everything. so that's going to be really fun. >> that is so exciting to do. and i think in this series it's so clear that you are the top agent at the brokerage. you are doing these 25 selling these $25 million houses, $30 million houses as a standard at this point. do you ever feel as though there could be some jealousy from other girls in the brokerage at just how successful you are? you are vp of the oppenheim group now, and that really does come across in the show. >> oh well, yeah. >> oh well, yeah. >> thank you. i do think that it's very competitive. so i don't i don't want to say that the other girls are jealous but but it is very competitive. so sometimes that might be exaggerated that they're the top agent. and i'm like yeah, it's public. it's me. it's actually factual. but but you know, i think competition is good friendly competition. >> so one of your big rivals on the show is chelsea , of course, the show is chelsea, of course, who is another very good seller.

i'd argue you're probably a bit better, but she's a brit as well , better, but she's a brit as well, isn't she? and you guys infamously haven't got on. there's always been friction there. an episode i saw this week you were trying to kind of bndge week you were trying to kind of bridge the gap a bit, and you opened up about your childhood and your upbringing, but still, that friction remains. what is it with you and chelsea? why don't you get on? is it maybe the english us divide a bit of cultural differences? >> no, i used to live here. i love, i love brits. well, except for my ex, but . love, i love brits. well, except for my ex, but. but. no, i don't think so. she. i think she feels that way more than i do. i've neven that way more than i do. i've never. we can be different and still get along . i've never still get along. i've never really had a problem with her. i don't like something she says and does, but i like her as a person, she she's just, you know , person, she she's just, you know, a bit forceful with, with her words and, and can be a little brutal sometimes and i just take a more polite approach to things. you're very american. >> yeah. yeah. >> yeah. yeah. >> and that rivalry, does it

extend off screen? how much of it is kind of just behind the cameras or in front of the cameras? no it's, you know, we are just we get along when we, when we need to. >> there has been some, some tension, even recently. so i just tried to mediate as much as i can and tried to keep it toned down so that we can get back to work , because i just feel like work, because i just feel like it just distracts from , from, it just distracts from, from, like, our productivity. >> i was going to ask you that. how distracting is that work environment? because when you're watching the show, it's like, how are any houses actually sold in and amongst the outfits and the drama and the gossiping? yeah when is the work done? i sound like jason. >> i work very long hours, but trying to trying to fit it in. >> but it's, we get it done. it's just i think a lot of it's for camera too. like where we are all together . we have to be are all together. we have to be there, but otherwise, when we're not filming, we kind of. we're not filming, we kind of. we're not always in the office at the same time, i work from home lot.

>> oh, really? yeah. >> oh, really? yeah. >> there's a lot of fans that come up and there's tour buses now that come by every way , like now that come by every way, like three minutes, like there's tour buses, and then people get out, take selfies in front of the office and so it's quite distracting. mary can i ask quite an intrusive question? >> and you can tell me to mind my business if you want, but when you sell a house, of course it says at the bottom of the screen the commission that you guys earn. how much of that do you keep? how much goes to the company? >> jason. yeah, to jason. he's very rich. >> he's very rich, we have a certain split. he doesn't want us to say what it is, but he takes he takes a nice little chunk of it. so would you ever get paid a lot? >> would you ever go it alone then? because you are the top agent at the oppenheim group. they've made you vp, probably to try and keep you there, but you could definitely go it alone at this point. >> i could go and i could, i'm very loyal and he's my best friend. and so, i don't know, maybe one day, but right now, i have no interest in leaving . have no interest in leaving. >> what about selling sunset uk?

i know we don't have much sunshine as you probably experienced in your time here, but do you think you could branch out the series to the uk or anywhere else in europe? >> didn't you guys have one? >> didn't you guys have one? >> well, yeah, there was a sell in london, i was there, sorry. that would be his next project. yeah. can introduce you to. yeah. can introduce you to. yeah.i yeah. can introduce you to. yeah. i don't think been picked up quite as much. no. yeah do you know what i loved about this series in particular? mary with you was your openness about your journey? i mean, you've mentioned it with your conversations with chelsea. you've spoken about your trauma, about being a teenage mum , about about being a teenage mum, about being judged in the religious town that you grew up in, and now you are the top agent of one of the biggest real estate companies in the us. what is that journey been like for you , that journey been like for you, >> well, i actually went into it in depth. i have a new book coming out selling sunshine. it comes out september 24th and i 90, comes out september 24th and i go, i dive into it and say everything that has happened and how it's made me who i am. because i've had a lot of things that have happened in my life, like sexual assault, domestic

violence , like, just i battle violence, like, just i battle adhd, which makes working very, very difficult, and so i go into a lot of fertility issues. i mean, you name it, i talk about it, but how i got through it and how to remain kind of positive and kind of to how put a spin on it, like, like when you're going through stuff, everybody goes through stuff, everybody goes through stuff. and so, how to just keep moving forward and remaining positive and successful. so, yeah, that's and you're such an inspiration because you were such a massive success story. >> you've taken, as you say, these trials and tribulations and just made such a success of yourself. and i love the openness. you know, you speak about the ruptured breast implant. wasn't there on the show? yeah. do you like being that open with with viewers? do you does that vulnerability ever scare you? >> no, i don't really mind. the only thing i, the only thing that , bothered me only thing i, the only thing that, bothered me a only thing i, the only thing that , bothered me a little bit that, bothered me a little bit was when i lost. i had the miscarriage and then. so. and

you know, you just want a moment just to grieve on your own. and the cameras are right there in your face. >> and that was played out on screen. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> and did you have a i mean did you have a choice to, to reveal that. well, when i left, when i left the doctor's office, they were supposed to be there to see the ultrasounds. >> so they were planning to be at my to house see the ultrasound when we got back. and i found out i miscarried, so remain obviously very protective of me. and he was like, you will not be there. and he like, he he put his foot down that they will not be there. i need i need a minute. but they arrived first thing in the morning. so we don't really get that long. and then when i lost my dog nico, this season, i just saw the tease to that. >> so you were you were hugging jason and crying. and i was thinking, what's happened there? and i was told by you to tell me your dog, but you've had many happy memories and appearances on screen as well. you got married as well. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> yeah, i got to share my wedding on, on the show and that's that's one of the most magical things to be able to

look back on. you know, you get to any time i want. i can just go rewatch it. and it's such a beautiful wedding. it was craziness at the time, trying to make it happen, but it just turned out i couldn't be happier. we've had so many good memories and. >> and he is your rock remain. really? i mean, you really are a lovely couple. and you've made no secret of the fact that you'd like a baby together. you talk about your fertility journey also in your book. yeah. that is coming out at the end of september, how is your fertility journey? how are things, >> not great. i have to have surgery, part of the full body scan.i surgery, part of the full body scan. i did . it's. surgery, part of the full body scan. i did. it's. i surgery, part of the full body scan. i did . it's. i don't know scan. i did. it's. i don't know if they have it here. it's like a you just go in. it's one hour and it scans everything in your body. so i found out my uterus has a septum in the middle of it. so i've done in vitro. i've done like, tried to do embryo and egg freezing and everything. and for years paid lots of money for it. and i found out i can't do it without having without having it removed, which i was

like, well, how did i have my son? they said, it's basically a miracle like that. i had him because i was so young , that my because i was so young, that my body was just able to somehow do it. and he must have just implanted it like the perfect spot to make it happen. it was like 1 in 1,000,000 chance that he would have survived . but so he would have survived. but so i have to have this surgery to remove the septum and then start going through. are you booked in for that surgery? i'm not yet . for that surgery? i'm not yet. i'm trying to finish doing all of this promotion. got a lot on your plate. i figure the stress from from the show and all the press and travelling and stuff . press and travelling and stuff. probably not good for, for and just remind us how old were you when you had your your first son, i was 15 when i got pregnant. 16 when i gave birth. >> and you in that the scene i was talking about with you off air, when you sit down with chelsea and you try and sort of work out your differences, you touched on the fact you had a child so young and the challenges that brought you. could you just tell us more about that and why it was such an obvious struggle having

kid? >> yeah, well, i was a child raising a child and, you know, from indiana. >> it's very religious and very small town . my dad was my small town. my dad was my teacher at this tiny little school. and, you know, it really put shame on on my family. i was judged, like, really bad. like, it was. it was pretty brutal, parents would just, like, wouldn't want their kids to really be around me because i was that girl. and it was just, it was hard. every place i would go with this baby, people were like , like, rolling their eyes. like, like, rolling their eyes. and so i was judged from a very, very young age, and it made me very young age, and it made me very sensitive to it, and so that's something that why i started crying with chelsea was because i don't judge people. like i would never , ever make like i would never, ever make someone else feel like that because i've been there, i've been through it, and it's terrible. >> are you are you proud of yourself? knowing what you've gone through and the challenges and seeing where you are now? do

you ever take a moment to sort of sit back and think, you know, i've done all right, i'm doing well. >> you know, i, i have after this book because there's a letter to myself that, that i wrote, and i still can't get through it without crying because it really, i think everybody should do it. >> like do a letter to yourself, like whatever age like that you think you like, you would give yourself advice because it really does. you can you while doing that, you automatically come to the realisation of like, wow like and it just impacts you so much. like i, i'm very, very proud of myself. i still have a long way to go. i'm a i'm a very, persistent kind of person. and i'm like, i want to conquer the world. i want to build an empire. and so i've got a lot more to do. >> what else do you want to achieve then? because you've already done so much? >> yeah. after this book, i actually have something coming up. >> a sunglasses and optical line, capsule line that's going

to be coming out because i'm obsessed with sunglasses and there's always something i would tweak on them. so i was like, you know what? i'm gonna make my own. so, so i'm doing that, so i'll start putting that out there once they're ready. and, and then , i don't know, i. the and then, i don't know, i. the world's my oyster. >> the world is your oyster. it certainly is, mary brownite. >> it is an honour to meet you. privilege. and now we're both big fans, aren't we, ben? definitely yeah. >> thank you very much. quick question. i've obviously just tuned in from series eight. do i need to go back to series one? i mean, or can i just carry on where i am? >> you could. you should. then you'll get background. i think season eight, i think it really starts diving into different layers of all of us. like where you get in entry kind of idea of who we are and what's going on and like a backstory. but i think season eight really starts peeung think season eight really starts peeling back the layers. and i think it's our best season yet. >> and why do you think the show is so successful? what is it, do you reckon? what's the secret?

>> i don't know what the secret sauce is. i mean, because there's a lot of people that have tried to do it. i mean, there's a lot of reality shows and they're good, but they don't make it. they always get cut. and i don't know, i, i don't know for me, i think it's the real estate. >> and i think the talent at what you do, that's what makes it different. there's so many there's so many reality tv shows where you don't actually see the talent and the work that goes in. i think that's what makes it different. >> that's good to know. >> that's good to know. >> you see, it's your day job as well. and just before we let you 90, well. and just before we let you go, we need to get to a break. is there going to be a series nine selling sunset? surely there's got to be. >> i. >> i. >> nothing's been absolutely confirmed yet, but i'm going to say it is 99%. it's going to because we just got like number one, reality show in the world. >> so, because there's some stories doing the rounds, even yesterday, saying that you guys have been arguing so much backstage and there's massive feud that series nine is at risk. >> oh is it? well, it's at risk every year. >> yeah. every season. everyone's like, i'm not going to come back. i'm not going to

deal with this. and then everybody does. so we'll see. i mean, but i think there's going to be a season nine. maybe we'll have two new cast members. maybe all the same people will come back who knows? >> same people, same drama. >> same people, same drama. >> well, we hope it comes back. >> well, we hope it comes back. >> i'll be back. >> i'll be back. >> brilliant to meet you. thanks, mary , so much. let us thanks, mary, so much. let us know what you think of that. gbnews.com/yoursay. >> okay. still to come. was donald trump in the first televised debate with kamala harris? >> and next, are you missing out on vital sleep? our next guest, doctor shah, will be here with some hot tips. we'll be back in three.

>> hello. welcome back. 1025 ben and ellie with you on saturday morning live. don't forget to keep sending us your questions and views on today's show. gbnews.com/yoursay. but first, how's your sleep? >> bad. it always is, it seems. how was yours,

>> a bit hit and miss sometimes. if i'm working early in the morning, i.e. today, i go and sleep in the cabin in the garden so the kids don't wake me up. oh, got a little mattress on the floor. >> that's a really good way of getting around it, actually. but i feel as brits, we're very bad at getting sleep. and it's actually official now because the clocks are changing, the days are getting shorter again. might have noticed outside, but research suggests that we might want to consider what this means for our bedtime. >> the sleep report's 2024 is based on a comprehensive survey conducted all across the country, and the report found that over half the population get this fall short of the recommended seven plus hours of required sleep each night. and shockingly, 1 in 4 of us is getting five hours or less. and that includes you , doesn't it? that includes you, doesn't it? >> yes, i'm very bad at sleep 4 or 5. i'd say that's a bit like maggie thatcher. what would you get? on average? >> i'd say at least six seven, probably average. >> that's probably not good. i think you probably need eight. well, almost half of brits rate their sleep quality as five out of ten or lower. it's not good.

is it? >> not good. not good. doctor manisha and doctor sza shah joins us now to tell us all about the sleep and how brits are struggling. good morning to you both. >> morning. morning. >> morning. morning. >> first question to you both. how many hours do you both get got? >> i think it varies. i try and hit that seven hours of sleep, yeah, but it tends to vary day to day. >> yeah , probably the same. my >> yeah, probably the same. my wife would probably say too much. >> oh, so what is the story behind all of this? >> why are brits so bad at getting sleep, especially in terms of hours? 4 or 5 hours for me. six hours for you? same for the for everybody out there in the for everybody out there in the uk. we're just not going to bed early enough. is it as simple as that, or is it slightly more complicated? >> yeah. so i think the key is to establish a good routine. so waking up at the same time every day, making sure that you're going to sleep at the same time every day and being quite sort of rigid and strict with yourself when it comes to those timings. >> and also, it's not just the length of i get, say, seven hours, it's the quality, isn't

it? you've got different phases of sleep. just explain those. is it? as far as i remember, rem deep sleep. just tell us about that. >> correct. yeah. so essentially there's four stages to sleep. so there's four stages to sleep. so there's stage one and stage two which are your lighter stages of sleep. and then stage three is your deeper sleep. and then you've got the stage four which is your rem which is a rapid eye movement stage. and it's these stage three and the rem sleep, which is really, really important for restorative and regenerative sleep. >> and what are the health implications, doctor seta, if you have a lack of sleep over a long period of time, it's not good for you, is it? >> no. of course. so, for example, your day to day functioning can really be impacted. your recall, it can affect your energy levels, but also on a long term basis. it can really impact your health in terms of it can lead to type 2 diabetes, heart disease. it increases your blood pressure. and also it has a massive impact on mental health. so we see, you know , a large number of people know, a large number of people then developing anxiety

depression. >> but then some people would say i can't sleep because i have anxiety or because i'm worried about things in the day. so it's kind of a vicious cycle now. >> yeah , absolutely. and i guess >> yeah, absolutely. and i guess stress is something we can't necessarily get away from. but it is. there are a number of things that we could do to help with that. top tips . yeah. so with that. top tips. yeah. so one thing is and this was found in the survey, is that brits really like to read before sleeping. that really de—stresses them. i need to get better at that. yeah. other tips are also doing things that you enjoy during the day exercising, watching a good movie. if you've got a chance going for a lunchtime walk as well. and also doing things like breathing exercises, meditation , anything exercises, meditation, anything that relaxes you and increases what's called the vagus nerve activation, which is what helps to us rest, relax, and hopefully fall asleep. >> the vagus nerve. >> the vagus nerve. >> the vagus nerve? that's correct. that's quite good. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> how damaging. on that note, are these things? our phones in the bedroom. i mean, that

doesn't help us get our sleep, doesn't help us get our sleep, does it? >> absolutely . >> absolutely. >> absolutely. >> and i think there's a number of things that the phones do to us. firstly, there are massive distractions. so we're always reaching for it, looking for the next thing to look up. but then there's also the massive factor of blue light radiation from screens, laptops , tvs, phones, screens, laptops, tvs, phones, everything. and what the blue light does is it essentially mimics daylight . and what that mimics daylight. and what that doesisit mimics daylight. and what that does is it it limits something called melatonin, a hormone that's produced in our brain and in our gut, which essentially helps us to relax and get the body ready to sleep. so if we're suppressing that, then of course, what's going to happen is we're going to find it difficult to sleep. we're going to wake up in the morning feeling less refreshed. and that's what the survey found as well, is that 2 in 5 brits are waking up feeling unrefreshed. >> would you recommend melatonin supplementation? because i bought some the other month, there was what's the there's a trio in there. there's a trio of supplements. you can take melatonin. is it zinc as well? yeah. >> and probably magnesium. >> and probably magnesium. >> does that stuff work or is it

all a bit of a placebo. >> so yeah. so i think we have to look at it as a whole and try different things. so for example, taking supplements can work. also making sure that you're using the right sleep products as well. so panda have their whole hypoallergenic range which is all ethical and sustainable which can really help as well in getting that good quality sleep too. >> and there's something about the weather as well, isn't it? seasonal differences actually affect how much sleep we get and the quality of sleep. what's the science behind that? >> absolutely. so when we when we wake up, ideally to the sunlight, we have a burst of something called cortisol, which helps us to have that get up and go sort of feeling. and then gradually that kind of goes down as the day goes on and your melatonin starts to go up, which is what makes you feel sleepy and tired. but when the winter comes along, it's a little bit difficult because all of a sudden we're having to get up to go to work when it's still dark and you're like, i still want to sleep. >> yeah, it's awful, isn't it? >> yeah, it's awful, isn't it? >> happened to me. this morning. awful. yeah.

>> and then when you get back, you know, in the, later on in the evening, it's already dark. you want to go to sleep? you might already be working. you'll be exposed to all the lights around you. and that further suppresses your melatonin. and this can really disrupt your sleep cycle. but again, there are things you can do. you have things like blue light filters , things like blue light filters, blue light glasses, red lighting in the house as well to help with sleep. and then in the morning you can also use light therapy as well to hopefully help give you that boost. >> yeah, i've seen, you know that billionaire guy who tries to defy ageing, brian, is it bnan to defy ageing, brian, is it brian johnson? he has one of those lamps in the morning which i think mimics the sunlight. i don't know if they work, but i think that's probably the worst thing about britain is our savage winters where you wake up, it's dark and cold, you go to work, you come home, it's dark and cold. >> you never see the sunlight. >> you never see the sunlight. >> there's nothing worse, is there? but really good to meet you both. thank you to make sense of that sleep report for us. because it is bad. but there's something that can be done, and that's the message. so thank you so much, doctor mahesh shah and doctor seeta shah. >> blackout. >> blackout. >> blackout. >> blackout blinds as well. >> blackout blinds as well. >> blackout blinds as well. >> blackout blinds. yeah, i'm definitely a fan or a heater in

the in the room. just kind of stabilised. temperature >> just temperature. just. so just to know if anybody would like more information, then they can go to our website which is thegreen , .uk and our instagram thegreen, .uk and our instagram page as well at the green doctor underscore uk for any health related questions. excellent. >> thank you . and if you've got >> thank you. and if you've got kids, don't worry about it. you're stuffed regardless. >> good stuff. >> good stuff. >> do stay with us still to come. we're going to be diving into the true crime world and heanng into the true crime world and hearing why it's so much harder, so much more sorry than murder recreations and dramatic courtroom showdowns. >> but next has the first presidential tv debates made any difference to for the support team trump and team harris in america? nelson aspen has the latest in just

tick. hello. welcome back. let's go

stateside, shall we? where trump and harris, donald trump and kamala harris are locked in a tight race for keys to the white house. and just how well did each of them fare in the debate earlier this week? well, the polls are pretty neck and neck . polls are pretty neck and neck. >> well, to tell us more, we're delighted to be joined now by journalist and author nelson aspen live from new york as always. nelson, really good to see you this morning. and before we get into this week's debate, because i know there's a lot to unpack there, i wanted to actually start with the comments from the pope. have you heard these, ben? so he's criticised both kamala harris and donald trump and told catholic americans to vote for the lesser of two evils, but he hasn't said which one that is. nelson, what do you make of these comments from the pope? >> well, i think it's highly unusual for the pope to be weighing in on this. but of course, two of the top issues that we're facing are abortion rights and also the migrant and immigration issues. so depending on which issue is more important

to you , that's that's how you're to you, that's that's how you're going to look at the pope's comments . you know. so i don't comments. you know. so i don't know. perception is everything that that seems to be the case in everything we're dealing with here. it may not be politically correct to address some of these issues, but it doesn't mean it's not correct. just because it's not correct. just because it's not politically correct doesn't mean it isn't correct. and perception is everything . our perception is everything. our politicians can tell us that crime . crime statistics prove crime. crime statistics prove that crime is down, but that's not the case if you don't feel safe. we're living in a world now where we don't feel safe, and we're looking for the kind of leadership that can bring that that feeling of security back to us. >> same with inflation. they say, oh, inflation is back down to target levels. but it's like, well, it doesn't feel like that in the supermarket. my you know box of cereal is still a couple of quid more expensive. anyway let's get to the debate. that was the big talking point of the week. who won? and actually does it matter who won. because would it, you know, move the needle. >> either way it was great entertainment. speaking of

reality shows, i know that's part of your theme today as we're talking about the reality shows, and this was the ultimate reality show for sure. it was great, sometimes cringe worthy , great, sometimes cringe worthy, but nonetheless great entertainment. but nonetheless great entertainment . and but if you entertainment. and but if you wanted to determine a winner, you would have to say that kamala harris came away as the more polished, well—spoken candidate up on the stage. but that doesn't mean that that the needle moved whatsoever . as you needle moved whatsoever. as you said, the polls reflect the fact that the race is neck and neck. and as far as donald trump, he was his classic trumpian self. what was interesting was how he has managed so far to pretty much maintain a statesmanlike attitude. but kamala harris and using her skills as a prosecutor, former prosecutor, she did put out a lot of, tantalising moments. and donald trump seemed to take the bait every time. i think the fact

that donald has been so gagged in the press by all of his criminal accusations and cases, he was just so in springfield. >> they're eating the dogs , the >> they're eating the dogs, the people that came in there eating the cats. >> sorry, nelson. we ambushed you, ambushed you with that, we got a bit trigger happy dogs. >> the cats. >> the cats. >> the cats. >> the dogs. the cats. >> the dogs. the cats. >> well, let's speak about that moment, because that was one of the most bonkers moments of the entire debate. >> what did you make of that? >> what did you make of that? >> it seemed to come out of left field. i think even kamala harris was surprised when you saw her, her reaction that it was something like out of a out of a pantomime comedy, the way she reacted to that comment, however , while it has been however, while it has been debunked that the that the migrants are eating the house pets that again is a case of perception where our cities are so overwhelmed with an influx of migrants that there is an uptick in crime. there is an uptick in the feeling and feelings do

matter, and that's what's going to determine this election. trump undeniably would take the country more to the right. kamala harris , very undeniably kamala harris, very undeniably would take the country more to the left no matter what she says about trying to float into the middle. but it is that middle there. it's hard to imagine that there. it's hard to imagine that there would be undecided voters. but there are. there are the people in the middle looking for a candidate who will bring us into the middle, and not to these extremes that we're experiencing now. >> and you said that that the cat and dog thing had been debunked. i'd argue not totally, because there are clips and even police body cam reports doing the rounds online of not. i'm not sure if they're migrants necessarily haitian migrants in springfield, ohio, but there was definitely one police body cam clip i saw. it's pretty grim, actually, of a woman eating a cat in springfield, ohio, and being arrested for it, so i don't know what's going on there. maybe trump was told that by his advisers and that's why he went with it. but the bigger talking point with springfield, ohio, is the fact that 60,000 people live there in this small

town , and the government has town, and the government has teleported 20,000 haitian migrants into the community. and there are community tensions there. i mean, 20 what's that in maths? 25%, a quarter, a quarter of the population is now migrants. so all sorts of questions about that. so i'd argue not totally debunked, but i do agree in the way that when trump was saying they're eating the cats and the dogs was cupped the cats and the dogs was clipped up, that ten 15 seconds wasn't helpful . wasn't helpful. >> correct. but that is the feeling that we're experiencing. hey, i live in new york city. you don't have to tell me about influx of people. you know, they're coming in by the busload. and that's just the state of . america. it's the state of. america. it's the state of. america. it's the state of. america. it's the state of a lot of places around the world here. and the bottom line is people want to feel safe. they do feel it in their pocketbook. and yes, there are plenty of issues that are important to people, some more than others. but the bottom line i think overall is who is going to protect us. >> nelson talking about these undecided voters. we also have a big news story this week was

taylor swift's endorsement of kamala harris. how much of a difference, if anything, would that make to undecided voters in the us? >> it makes absolutely no difference to me. i don't care who celine dion is voting for. i don't care who george clooney is voting for. but but taylor swift does present and possess influence over a large swath of people . you have to look no people. you have to look no further than the concerts. she was just in your country and people went bananas and lined up and paid a fortune just to just to go to the concert. i don't know that you care about her political . persuasion, but for political. persuasion, but for better or worse, a lot of people do. so it is a little worrisome. excuse me. kamala harris has decided she's going to have a sit down with oprah winfrey. i don't care about oprah winfrey's political persuasions either, but a lot of people do, and it's a voice. so yeah, taylor swift's

opinion counts. >> yeah, it can't have done her any harm. we can agree on that. well, nelson yasmin, thank you. i think it's around eight weeks until the election . i am until the election. i am absolutely here for it. buzzing can't wait. although, that said , can't wait. although, that said, i was buzzing for the debate and it was kind of a bit of a damp squib. so i hope election night is a bit more exciting. >> oh nelson, just keep an eye on your pussycat. yeah, just just before we let you go, will there be a second debate between kamala harris and donald trump? >> do you think because he's ruled it out so far, do you think he could come back on his word? >> yeah, he has ruled it out. but he loves to talk. and he loves the platform. and i think he would like to maybe craft some revenge against kamala for doing so well in that first debate. and really call her on some of the inadequacies, because she was very strong on style, less so on substance. >> okay. nelson. aspen live stateside. thank you very much for joining us once again. forjoining us once again. >> thank you. i think that is a really good point that nelson

aspen just made there, because kamala harris did well at ruffling donald trump's feathers. but actually, if donald trump had stayed on message, talked about the economy, talked about inflation, talked about immigration and stayed on message, he might have had a different result. >> on the night he walked right in, he walked into it. >> she was saying, if you go to donald trump's rallies, you're the one thing you'll notice is people walking out because it's so boring and you could see that just just well, he's obsessed with rally rally sizes, isn't he? >> and also, when kamala was asked, i think the moderator said, you know, you've been in office for 3 or 4 years. do you think people feel better off now or four years ago? and without even answering it, she just said, i grew up in a middle class household, blah blah blah. i just didn't answer the question. >> so yeah, well, let us know what you made of that debate. is it too early to call? who will win the presidency? do let us know what you think. gbnews.com/yoursay i think she i think she'll win it. >> i think she'll win it. >> i think she'll win it. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> anyway, a long time to go. eight weeks. politics is a long time. >> eight weeks. yeah. >> eight weeks. yeah. >> who knows what surprises we have in store anyway, coming back to this side of the pond now, we'll be diving into the

world of true crime and hearing why it's so much more than murder recreations and dramatic courtroom showdowns. this is saturday morning

tick. >> now, do you like true crime ? >> now, do you like true crime? >> now, do you like true crime? >> yes, i'm from brighton. where peter james top crime author whose books are loosely based on true stories, is very popular. and i like his books. >> oh, good. yeah. >> oh, good. yeah. >> so i listen to a lot of true crime podcasts, and i watch a lot of true crime series on netflix. so just to explain what is true crime exactly. so it's crime that has happened. so it's real life, true true crime life. but it's often recreations of those murders or those crimes. yeah and we also see kind of recreations of dramatic courtroom showdowns as well. so it's telling the story of, of that crime. and sometimes they're solved, sometimes they're solved, sometimes they're not. but from the latest cases to the latest scientific techniques, the newest tv shows and docs and some of the most listened to podcasts in the world, true crime is everywhere. yep. >> and next weekend, crime con

uk takes place in london. and joining us now to tell us more about that event and the true crime phenomenon is former detective stephen. how do you pronounce your surname? kia. kia. sorry, stephen. i should have checked with you before. and and nancy and again. nancy. what's your surname? >> born. >> born. >> born. >> born . thank you. i'm showing >> born. thank you. i'm showing my ignorance there. but thank you to you both for joining my ignorance there. but thank you to you both forjoining us. you to you both for joining us. so true crime. it's exploding, isn't it, nancy? why is it so popular? >> it's always been popular, but it's become extremely mainstream . it's become extremely mainstream. it's that whole want and passion for wanting to know why. why are things happened that puzzle solving, solving , feeling that solving, solving, feeling that we all get. it isn't crimecon macabre and sensationalist. i think this is where you have to get the balance right. it is that fascination for wanting to know the whys and the hows really , why does it capture the really, why does it capture the pubuc really, why does it capture the public imagination so much? >> and specifically women? because it's women that are bingeing these podcasts and these series so very much, isn't

it, nancy? >> it is. i mean, women in the main will come to crimecon. we see the majority of our audience are female, 25 to 45, and there's a lot of theory behind this. we want to feel safe. we want to learn women do overindex as victims of crime. so we want to make sure that we don't get ourselves in those situations, if you like. but as we've developed crimecon in the last four years, we are seeing more wider communities come . women wider communities come. women are dragging their husbands and they're realising they actually also enjoy true crime. >> so, stephen, you're a former top cop. hope you don't mind me describing you as that at crimecon and other events like that, do you get into sort of the semantics of the investigations and, you know how, for example, how i was watching something the other night where somebody was unfortunately murdered, but you saw the crime scene investigators trying to work out from which side the person was attacked from. did the knife come from the left hand side or

the right hand side? is it all that kind of stuff? >> so for me, everything i've done since i've left the police is about sharing that knowledge of investigations. because if you watch tv, they get it wrong a lot. so what we try and do, i'm not the only police officer then who's experts of forensic scientists, psychologists, all from that investigative world, just trying to get across what actually, this is how it's really done. this is what we do , really done. this is what we do, not what you're going to see on telly. and i think that's that's really important. so, so for me personally, coming along to crimecon , i just look at the crimecon, i just look at the list of people that are there , list of people that are there, honestly. and i'm proud. i'm proud to be associated with them. there are some fascinating people there, people have really fought for justice for their for their for their children. people are campaigning for victims, for survivors. so it's an event that when you when you look at the name, you might think, oh, they're just going to sit there talking about serial killers and what they got up to. couldn't be further than the truth . it's further than the truth. it's really about what goes on, how it impacts the victims, how the investigations are carried out. it's educational as much as

anything. >> amazing. >> amazing. >> so what's it actually how doesit >> so what's it actually how does it actually work? crimecon how does it work as an event? >> what is the experience? so, it's a ticketed event and you come and you are crime conscious, your journey basically. so you decide whether you're going to go into a forensic analysis, deep dive, or listen to a mother's personal story , or go and meet the story, or go and meet the content creators about how they make their podcasts that you've mentioned. you decide what you want to do, and then there's basically 70 speakers. the likes of stephen keogh, but family members as well . and they come members as well. and they come and they share their stories through panel panel discussions. and then as an audience member, you then get to meet steve, have a chat with him. deep dive. the experts don't go anywhere. they're there all weekend. and the one thing that's really struck me with this event more than anything else, i do, is the fact that we've built this community where they all want to share and they all want to help. there's a lot of unsolved cases, and people really want to see

justice. >> yeah. see justice. that's it. 30s left. if people are interested in going, how can they get tickets? go to the website crimecon .co.uk. >> it's next weekend and if you're interested in crime and wants to not be macabre, then we are your people. nancy. >> thank you. steve, thank you so much forjoining us. sounds amazing to meet you both. >> do stay with us. we're going to be going through the showbiz and steph takyi next. >> it looks like things are heating up. boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news. >> hello, good morning and welcome to your gb news weather update brought to you by the met office. >> well, there's a bit of a split in the weather for saturday. unsettled in the north, but elsewhere lots of fine and dry weather around and it is going to be feeling warm where you catch the sunshine too . where you catch the sunshine too. and the reason for this split in the weather is that we've got high pressure dominating the south, but low pressure in the north and notice the squeeze in the isobars, which means some

blustery conditions too. so in northern areas, northern ireland, western parts of scotland, we've got this band of rain slowly edging its way eastwards with very blustery winds behind it and likely to see some heavier downpours on that band of rain too. but elsewhere, lots of fine dry weather around, plenty of sunny spells and as i say, feeling warm where you do catch the sunshine, particularly in the south and southeast. now, as we head into the evening, we are going to continue to see that band of rain slowly move its way southeastwards across the country. so fairly cloudy with some damp weather around for scotland. and as i say, those blustery winds continuing, particularly in the north—west where there is a risk of some coastal gales , some cloudier coastal gales, some cloudier conditions moving into the scottish borders, but elsewhere, just before the sun goes down, plenty of late evening sunshine to end the day. but as soon as that sun goes down, it is going to be feeling chilly, particularly across the south where we could see some spots of grass, frost overnight. that band of rain is going to edge into northern areas, so cloudy and damp here and eventually the

winds are going to ease in the northwest. but plenty of blustery showers by the time we reach sunday morning. so chilly in the south. as i say, there is a chance we could see some grass frost in rural spots, but generally milder to the north of that main band of rain. generally milder to the north of that main band of rain . so for that main band of rain. so for the second half of the weekend, we've essentially got three areas of weather. we've got plenty of sunny spells and showers moving their way into scotland. these could be heavy with some hail and thunder at times. we've got a band of rain across the north and in the south. still plenty of fine and dry weather, though likely a bit more cloud around compared to today. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on

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thank you for joining >> very good morning to you. thank you forjoining us >> very good morning to you. thank you for joining us for this second hour. we've got an action packed show in store, all of the day's top stories with today danny craig and nicola mclean. >> diamonds are forever. holly ramsay received a beautiful yellow diamond engagement ring this week from the olympic swimmer adam peaty. we're going to be looking at the latest trends with a diamond dealer to the stars, neil dutson, and drinking wine to five. >> get it? good. dolly parton is the latest celeb to try and tackle the sparkling wine market in the uk. we'll be joined by the founder of moose and grape , the founder of moose and grape, mouse and grape ratherjessica summer to share why celebs think they can crack the wine industry . they can crack the wine industry. it's all right so i've made ellie. i've made ellie laugh . ellie. i've made ellie laugh. it's one of those days today where i just can't pronounce anything . mouse and grape. there anything. mouse and grape. there we go. >> i prefer that i prefer moose

and grape, to be honest. >> anyway, moose and grape. we'll be talking about that a little bit later on. >> i thought it sounded quite quintessential. sort of a moose and aggressive. sounds like a nice desert mouse and grape. >> anyway, you never know, they might change their name. i think it sounds better. >> anyone would think we've already been on the prosecco and sparkling wine at this rate, we are going to be trying the prosecco in about 50 minutes time. >> but the connie minogue prosecco this is what it's being pitted up against. this dolly parton rose. they're meant to be very, very similar. all the celebrities are getting involved now in the sparkling wine, but doesit now in the sparkling wine, but does it taste nice? we'll find out. no, we're going to find out. >> we'll find out in about 40 minutes time. the booze will be flowing and yeah, we'll see how we get on. what else is going on? i was about to say something else. >> we've got a panel. >> we've got a panel. >> we've got our panel. all the top stories and showbiz stephanie takyi as well. >> that's the one. >> that's the one. >> foo fighters i'm a massive fan. dave grohl, the lead singer of foo fighters, has been a rather naughty boy. he came out on instagram two days ago and said, i've fathered a child with another woman, sorry to my wife, sorry to my kids, and they're now not speaking to him. who can blame them? >> yeah, let us know what you think of that story,

gbnews.com/yoursay. but before we get into all of that action packed hour, here's sophie reaper with all of your news headlines. >> thank you. ellie. it's just after 11:00. i'm sophie reaper, and these are your latest headlines. prime minister sir keir starmer met with president joe biden last night to discuss strategy and tactics regarding ukraine and the middle east. meeting at the white house in washington, dc. the pair sat down for talks that sir keir described as long and productive. speaking afterwards, the pm also said that he and the us president had reached a strong position regarding ending the conflict in ukraine. >> we've stood with ukraine, ukraine has a right to self—defence and we've stood united, not just with our allies here in the us, but across with our nato allies. that's very, very important to us. but today was about having the chance to talk not just about a particular step or tactic, but the strategy in relation to ukraine. but also

we covered the middle east in some extensive detail and other areas across the world. so it was a really important occasion for us to have this chance to discuss with our allies. >> meanwhile, back on home soil now, more questions have been asked about the government's decision to cut winter fuel payments following a vote earlier this week, figures released by the department for work and pensions estimated that almost 800,000 pensioners will miss out on the benefit under the new plans of those set to lose the support. around two thirds have a disability and 83% are aged 80 or over. downing street has said that a full impact assessment of the change has not yet taken place. staying with politics now and a rebellion could be brewing within the labour party . within the labour party. following recent comments by the pm around a ban on smoking outdoors at pubs. labour mp for newcastle upon tyne east and wallsend , mary glindon, has wallsend, mary glindon, has tabled a motion in parliament against her own party in order to try and block the potential

plans in the motion. she praised the indoor smoking ban of two thousand and seven, but said that extending the ban outdoors could unduly restrict individual liberty . today could unduly restrict individual liberty. today is the could unduly restrict individual liberty . today is the first day liberty. today is the first day of the lib dem party conference in brighton, with the cost of living, defence and veterans climate change and, crucially, their plan to fix the nhs. as some of the topics on the agenda.the some of the topics on the agenda. the party won 72 seats in july's general election , in july's general election, their best ever result and more than six times the number they took in 2019. speaking from the conference earlier today, the deputy leader for the scottish liberal democrats, wendy chamberlain, spoke about the need for parties to work together to tackle the broken nhs without supporting social care. >> and we've been very clear that we are keen to work on a cross—party basis to solve it because no matter what party is in power, social care is an issue that is not going away. but if you don't support social care, you're not going to fundamentally sort the problems within the nhs. keir starmer has

said that fixing the nhs is a ten year job. said that fixing the nhs is a ten yearjob. he said that fixing the nhs is a ten year job. he won't be said that fixing the nhs is a ten yearjob. he won't be able ten year job. he won't be able to do that unless he keeps other parties onside, so that we can all do that, work together . all do that, work together. >> later today, a rally is expected to take place in glasgow. ten years on from the scottish independence referendum organised by hope over fear, the event marks a decade since scots took to the polls to vote on independence from the uk . the independence from the uk. the funeral of olympic athlete rebecca cheptegei is taking place in her home country of uganda this morning. place in her home country of uganda this morning . the runner uganda this morning. the runner died earlier this month after she was doused with petrol and set alight by a former boyfriend . set alight by a former boyfriend. she had recently returned from competing in the paris olympics when the attack took place . and when the attack took place. and today is the return of strictly. the bbc show is back and celebrating its 20th year, but following a series of controversies, many will be watching to see how the show

will handle allegations against some of the professional dancers. just some of the famous faces appearing on the show this series include football pundit paul merson, singer shayne ward and olympic gold medallist tom dean and sam quek . those are the dean and sam quek. those are the latest gb news headlines for now. i'm sophie reaper more from me in half an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code , alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com. >> forward slash alerts . >> forward slash alerts. >> forward slash alerts. >> thank you sophie reaper. great bulletins . i can't wait great bulletins. i can't wait for a bit of moose and grape coming up later today. yeah very good. anyway, shall we get on to more serious stuff? all of the day's top stories. we're joined by danny crates and nicola mclean in the studio. good morning to you both. >> good morning. good morning, you two. >> thank you forjoining us. >> thank you for joining us. what do you want to kick off

with? what about danny sven—goran eriksson? it was his funeral. of course, yesterday. really sort of heart wrenching scenes and poignant tributes. and the likes of david beckham. was there in sweden, fitting. fitting goodbye to who is remarkably, you know, a very great man and indeed a football manager. >> i think that was one of the things that come across the statements and the tributes were all about what a great man he was, sort of outside of what we know him for in football as well. but i think you that's the sign of a great manager, a great coach. it's when the players retire or sadly someone passes away. you hear the impact they have on that person's life. it was the same for me with my athletics coach, who's sadly no longer with us. it's after you realise they're not there more than the manager or the coach. they have an impact on your life as well and that's what creates that bond. >> i was going to ask you about that relationship because we saw david beckham yesterday getting visibly emotional, saying goodbye to sven—goran eriksson, but i think he was captain while sven—goran eriksson was manager. i think for every single one of beckham's games, bar two, and

it's such a close working relationship, it's almost like father and son. i'd imagine they would have because they would have been within the management set up, working together for the greater the team. >> but also someone like david would have potentially been being mentored by sven in the background as well. so you just have that bond. you don't always get on with people, right? but even sometimes you don't get on with someone, you respect them. you respect them as. but you can see from the images when he had his hand on the coffin and the tears, it's, you know, that's real. it shows what it means to somebody. and it's those moments when you start reflecting about the impact they have on your life. >> i think. nicola, what did you make of the funeral yesterday? it must have meant a lot to the men in your household. yeah, it did definitely, >> you know, speaking to my youngest about sven and what he had done was, was poignant. definitely. and it was just so nice to see, as you say, david beckham there just respecting his manager. and it's sad, isn't it? and he was so young. it's always sad when anyone goes and the way, you know, his last

words that i'm sure we all watched it was just it's just really sad. so it was nice. he got a nice send off, which is, i'm sure, what he'd have wanted. yeah >> such a such a beautiful dog. was it on amazon prime that documentary really sort of like. yeah, very touching. it showed his warmth and his character as a man. and as you said, his final words were very poignant indeed. >> yeah, >> yeah, >> should we look at this story in the guardian? i know both of you. you've both got kids. you've both got opinions on this one. this is a school academy chain, which is the first in england to ban mobile phones completely for kids in their schools. 35,000 pupils have been banned from smart phones during the school day. they said it's because it's had a catastrophic impact on their mental health and their learning. danny, what do you make of this? i think it's bold, but it's absolutely brilliant. >> it comes off the back of the government's recommendation that schools can, or the allowance that schools can, but this is one step further, and they're actually banning it. now i've got teenage boys and trying to get them off devices. as anyone who's got teenagers will know is

difficult. and how consuming devices are. so i think if they start, if they start young, the devices, it's just a habit that's going to form, right. so try and break that habit. now with them. and i know from teachers i've spoken to some schools have tried, you know, embracing technology and saying, okay, let's use the devices throughout the lessons to enable them to further their education. but it's not working because they're used for far more than googung they're used for far more than googling things that are important within a lesson. we know that the cyber bullying, the stuff that's going on with the stuff that's going on with the and things like that, it's a very, very dangerous minefield. and technology moves faster than we can keep up with it as human beings. so we just don't know to how work with it. so i think it is a brave, bold move . and i is a brave, bold move. and i think it's i think it hopefully it's one that other schools will follow. >> yeah. nicola, we survived without phones in schools didn't we. oh i don't need them. >> we don't need them. my son's school actually have done, have banned them completely. so they have a magnet, a magnet pouch that they have to put it in at

the start of the day, close it, and they can't open it. and the magnets are at the exit of the school, so they open it and if they're caught on their phones, they're caught on their phones, the phones go for a week. and so they've been really strict about it . my son was absolutely fine it. my son was absolutely fine with it. it was me that found that really because i do text him during the day. i do. so it was my cut off. i was like, but what if i need you? and he was like, well, i've got my apple watch. i was like, good one. so you still got the apple watch in case i need to get hold of him. but i quite agree. like we don't need them. and i do think that in loads of ways, not even just the most serious, stuff with with mobile phones, just silly stuff. like mum, i forgot my pe kit and i'm running it to school. he can't do that now, so he's going to have to be more responsible. so i do think it's a good, a good thing across the board for them not to have their mobile phones for sure. >> and it is quite easy, isn't it, for people to criticise and just say, look, it's down to the parents. the parents should be tougher, parents should take the phones away. you know, it shouldn't even have to get into

the school and the school managing the situation. but it is difficult, isn't it, for parents, not that i am one, but i can imagine actually prying it from their hands and also having any sort of control about what they're accessing. well, i think because as you say, it's you don't know, do you, with, with the dark web, with, with all of these sites, you don't know what they're looking at. >> and the thing is, they do need their phones because, you know, more parents are working and they do need their phones for travelling to and from school and for safety. and it is hard to then monitor it. but i do think brianna ghey mum, esther, she is campaigning for them to be for them to be smart phones for under 16 seconds that are different to the ones that we have, that you can only access limited things on them . access limited things on them. and i think obviously that's going to be hard to do. and the smart companies, you know, it's going to take a long time . smart companies, you know, it's going to take a longtime. but going to take a long time. but if we can get there, that will be fantastic because what the what children can access on these phones is scary. >> yeah. well just get the old nokias out the old bricks. 33 tens. >> that's what we had . yeah. >> that's what we had. yeah. >> that's what we had. yeah. >> bit of snake. >> bit of snake. >> i had the flip.

>> i had the flip. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> the flip. ericsson do you remember the pink one? i had that one. it was fantastic. >> mine have one of those little phones. just when they get in trouble, like when the phone gets confiscated, they get given that. that's it. yeah. and it's got it's got my number in it, the school number in it. the grandparents. >> that's it. that's all they need. wow. >> it's a really good idea actually. it does what you think about that one. gbnews.com/yoursay >> there's also some, some nightclubs as well which do the phone thing at the door. so they all the sort of revellers and the clubbers, they put their phonesin the clubbers, they put their phones in a magnet box or a locker and yeah, by the end of the night, no phones anywhere. >> what sort of clubs are you going to? >> well, i haven't been to any for many, many years, but very, very good question, >> and probably best we leave it there. yes, right . should we there. yes, right. should we have a look at this story in the sun? prince harry turns 40 tomorrow. happy birthday, prince harry, he failed to mention his wife, meghan markle, in a message marking his birthday. and reports in the sun that he's isolated in california. his only friend is his minder. it's quite sad, really, isn't it, nicola? >> it seems really sad because obviously we all knew and loved

harry from for being fun loving for being the wild one. i mean , for being the wild one. i mean, if you remember his antics in vegas, this is what we want from him. we want not the exact same antics, but we want him to be celebrating his 40th birthday in vegas, having a wild time with his friends. but it doesn't seem like it's going to happen, does it? it seems like that, you know, it doesn't seem like he's happy and fun loving it seems like he's pretty miserable and thatis like he's pretty miserable and that is really sad. i know his wife provokes so much reaction in people, but actually it's just sad that he's he does seem really isolated. >> danny, this is a serious as far as i'm concerned, a serious topic of conversation because as blokes get older, i found your friendship group diminishes. people get sort of bogged down in their own lives and families and eventually, unless you work hard to maintain those friendships or do hobbies or maybe even holidays with your mates, then you kind of you lose touch. and i guess that's why so many men get lonely. and of course, male suicide is so high. i think it's a really serious issue. >> it is. and i think, you know,

i moved, you know, 20 minutes, half an hour from where i grew up.and half an hour from where i grew up. and even staying in contact with my friends is harder now. i don't as much as i should do. so to move across across the atlantic is , is, you know, is atlantic is, is, you know, is a is a big move and it is going to be harder. and everything that he's gone through throughout his life with the press and people around him and trust , it's not around him and trust, it's not surprising that he's one of his closest confidants , is going to closest confidants, is going to be someone that he has probably chosen to be the one that's going to look after him, but he spends all his time with. so it's not surprising that is his friend. i don't find that sad. i find that probably normal. he's going to surround himself with people that he truly, honestly trusts, but it is difficult, and it is difficult when you move away and you can't even, you you can't even, you can't even imagine what their away and you can't even, you can't even imagine what their world is like under that much world is like under that much scrutiny. 24 over seven to scrutiny. 24 over seven to actually just lead normal lives, actually just lead normal lives, to make normal friendships. to make normal friendships. >> so i've got a question for >> so i've got a question for you, all of you. actually, you, all of you. actually, you're scared. so apparently so you're scared. so apparently so harry's planning. apparently a harry's planning. apparently a lads holiday away for his 40th. lads holiday away for his 40th.

oh, yeah, as, would you let your oh, yeah, as, would you let your your man. yes. go on. yeah, yeah , your man. yes. go on. yeah, yeah , your man. yes. go on. yeah, yeah, well, i say that, but plenty of your man. yes. go on. yeah, yeah, well, i say that, but plenty of women. i mean , what do you women. i mean , what do you women. i mean, what do you think? are you happy with maybe, women. i mean, what do you think? are you happy with maybe, your husband, maybe once a year, your husband, maybe once a year, going on a week or two week trip going on a week or two week trip abroad with his mates. >> tom loves. abroad with his mates. >> tom loves. >> tom loves. >> go away. get him out of the >> tom loves. >> go away. get him out of the house, tom. house, tom. >> no, tom loves going away. he >> no, tom loves going away. he goes away all the time. me? not goes away all the time. me? not so much. i would never go. i so much. i would never go. i would never go on a girls would never go on a girls holiday. ever. but if tom wants holiday. ever. but if tom wants to. absolutely no problem. to. absolutely no problem. >> what about you, danny? >> what about you, danny? >> what about you, danny? >> yeah, well, with two >> what about you, danny? >> yeah, well, with two teenagers and a three year old, teenagers and a three year old, those chances are less and less those chances are less and less nowadays. but i think it just nowadays. but i think it just comes down to your relationship, comes down to your relationship, right? if you trust each other, right? if you trust each other, then, you know, i think the then, you know, i think the perception is that a lad going away, it's going to be up to no good. but it's not like he's 40 now. right? so that's the other thing as well. we, you know, the image of him is still as that young , free like 20 something young, free like 20 something year old. but he's now a 40 year old or going to be tomorrow with a family. so he's going to naturally have grown up, calmed down a little bit. >> well, you're saying this, but you just mentioned the story,

didn't you, about dave grohl.

of the the daily mail. many of the papers, actually, this morning. so he had been facing a criminal charge of driving while intoxicated. he was pulled over intoxicated. he was pulled over in the hamptons, but he pled guilty yesterday to a reduced charge of driving with ability impaired. he's got something like a $300 fine, and he's got to do 25 hours of community service . do you think he's got service. do you think he's got off lightly? lightly, because he's a celebrity? >> i think he's possibly got off lightly. but the laws are very different out there anyway, aren't they? they don't i don't think they they don't breath test them do they. i don't think it's not. is it. i think there's like over here if you're caught, you're caught. right. you have a breath test. you you have a roadside one, then you have a blood test or a breath test. breath test if you're taken into custody and they know 100%, whereas it's a little bit more, they can argue their case over there, but from you read the report and the smell of the alcohol, the way he was driving , alcohol, the way he was driving, then it sounds like he was driving under the influence of alcohol. and that should be the sentence that he's put down on him. but they will often be able

to use that as a and he did a statement in the afterwards urging people to make better choices than he did telling people to get an ubers. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> if they've had it in scotland where you're not allowed even just one one. yeah. >> no trace. >> no trace. >> i think that's probably a better idea because then you can't you can't get it twisted at all, can you? there's no grey area. there's no grey area, just nothing at all. and that would probably be the better idea because at the moment it's always like how much have you eaten? >> was your meal big? how long has it been since your last dnnk? has it been since your last drink? and so on. >> it's so subjective and it's body type as well, isn't it? it's how tall you are, how much? >> and also, i don't know about you, but i mean, you can test it with the, moose and grapes and grapes, but, you know, there might be a time where i have two glasses of wine and feel absolutely fine. and then there's another time i'll have two glasses of wine, and tom's like, yeah, you need to stop now. do you know what i mean? it's like it all depends your mood and everything, doesn't it? >> it's very subjective, isn't it, lee said about that the better with me. i had, one too many in the south of france.

we'll just leave it there. >> oh, yeah. >> oh, yeah. >> getting on the vino. >> getting on the vino. >> it was a bit. >> it was a bit. >> yeah. danny crates, nicola mclean. really good to see you both. thank you so much for your company. do stay with us. still to come, we're going to be joined by jessica summer of moose and grey. she's going to be talking to us about the celebrity wine market because dolly parton is in the mix now. >> yeah, we'll have some tasters as well. yeah. so no driving home. >> no driving home. get a taxi for me. >> but up next, we'll be joined in the studio by neil dutson. he's the diamond dealer to the stars. we'll be back in three

>> welcome back to saturday morning live . we may be having morning live. we may be having the best morning of our lives because we're surrounded by diamonds. and the reason we're talking about this is because earlier this week, olympic swimmer adam peaty finally proposed to his girlfriend. because i've been waiting for this. the daughter of gordon ramsay with a gorgeous yellow diamond ring. >> yeah. so the demand for

coloured diamonds in the last ten years has soared by guess how much ? 77% between 2010 and how much? 77% between 2010 and 2019. joining us now to tell us more about some of the hottest trends in the diamond world is dealer to the stars, neil dutson. good morning neil. morning and i've got one of youn morning and i've got one of your, exemplary examples. look at this bad boy. >> what's this one? >> what's this one? >> that's a very rare muzo colombian emerald. and it's alpine green, translucent. so it's a really stunning can we get a close up? so. yeah. so pretty impressive. >> priti. can i, can i be very crude and ask how much this is worth, >> so the value is £200,000. how much? sorry, £200,000. now, the reason is its rarity, its minor oiling, its very, very , very oiling, its very, very, very pretty. the two diamonds on the side are d—color flawless diamonds. just to accentuate the setting. >> neil, how did you get into diamonds? >> i studied diamonds in antwerp, so antwerp used to be the diamond capital of the world. really? 85% of the world's diamonds go through antwerp or used to. and now dubaihas antwerp or used to. and now

dubai has taken over , and yeah, dubai has taken over, and yeah, i just went to a school there. i learnt about diamonds and i just didn't want to be seen off in the future. >> now i'm very concerned. i'm going to drop 200 grand's worth of diamonds into my cup of tea. so can i give that back to you? absolutely. >> i can hold one if you like. >> i can hold one if you like. >> oh, well, i've got a lovely one here. thank you. so this is a fancy, vivid yellow. it's eight carats. >> oh, this is exactly. this is my dream ring. just, you know, for this hand. this would be amazing. so. so what would i call this? a yellow? >> so that's a fancy, natural fancy vivid yellow diamond. value, £300,000. is it. oh, it depends where you're buying it from. >> if it fits like a glove, neil, maybe it's a sign. >> it's meant to be mine. definitely a sign. >> yeah. where do you want it? here eight carats. what shape would we describe that? >> that's a radiant cut, a radiant cut, and it is radiant and it fits so well. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> perfect. >> perfect. >> neil, what's the what's the most like? >> it should be mine. >> it should be mine. >> what's the five cs? four c's on four. >> colour cut. clarity and carrot. right. carrot as you weight cut is the shape. the clarity is visible or non—visible inclusions and

colour is the colour of the stone . stone. >> and spencer matthews tv reality star made in chelsea and so on. he has described you as the bear grylls of diamonds of the bear grylls of diamonds of the diamond world. >> yeah, he said, what does that mean? >> why are you with the bear grylls? >> oh, i think you know. well slightly put it on the spot, so i think so in my career i have been back to source. so in parts of africa and nasty parts of africa into the bush sourcing uncut stones, legally and ethically. and what's important is , you know, getting immersed is, you know, getting immersed and involved within. write down where diamonds are sourced, whether it's alluvial in riverbeds or in the rock face, etc. and learning every step of the way right through to going on to ellie's finger. >> so you're not just sitting in your office in mayfair and ordering things, you're getting stuck into it in, you know , at source. >> i wish i had an office in mayfair. no, no, i think i think i think it's being, you know, being considerably to down earth in an industry which is very

mysterious, very intriguing, very closed and, and opening up, but not being, not with the price tag of a sexy bond street. >> we are showing some of your clients on the screen right now, neil, because you have designed fings neil, because you have designed rings for some of the biggest stars in the uk. sophie habboo and jamie laing there. you've also designed vogue williams ring, haven't you? yeah. spencer matthews, which has been your favourite creation so far? emma and matt willis are great, a lovely pair, a lovely couple and they've had a very simple , they've had a very simple, signet ring made for emma, which has the children's birthstones in it. >> so it's kind of very personal. i love things like that. jamie was great fun because we met in the backs of cars, we met in his kitchen as you can see. we met on the street. we go for a walk because he wasn't drinking coffee, and i did. and you know , just doing did. and you know, just doing business with people in a covert way is quite fun, you know? you know, literally pull my hood up and sit in a park and show jamie diamonds, you know, it's comedy.

and then eventually we nailed it. >> and you're a huge part of people's lives. massively. because rings are sentimental. they are the most important moments in a person's life their engagement, their weddings, the birth of their children. and you're a part of that. you create those moments . create those moments. >> absolutely. and it's so important to be understanding, but also make sure that they're there for life. you know, i don't want them for just one purchase. anybody, you know, it's there for life. and yes, of course, i am a big part of their lives and it's fabulous. and i meet so many people. i love travel, love meeting people . i travel, love meeting people. i love rocks. >> yeah. me too. i should come and work with you. i think that'd be brilliant. and what do you think of holly ramsay? so i love this yellow diamond on my finger right now . yellow finger right now. yellow diamonds are really hot right now. i feel like they've exploded in popularity. 77% in the past few years. what is it about yellow diamond? and is it true that they are just a lot rarer than the white coloured yellow diamonds are the next step up from white. >> so the reason they're yellow is because the element of nitrogen would have got into the

stone between 1 and 3 billion years ago, and therefore it creates the, the allure of the rarity. and yes , there are 17 rarity. and yes, there are 17 hues of yellow within a yellow diamond. and you can have what's known as light, fancy light, right up to fancy vivid. you're wearing a vivid. so you're at the top of the tree there. >> i feel like i'm at the top of the tree and it's definitely a tree you've climbed very well and you can have that. oh, i'd love this. yeah i think that's a lovely present. if you'd like to just leave it on my finger, that'd be really. >> but yeah, yellow diamonds, coloured diamonds are rarer. and ultra rare. are your purples, reds, pinks, oranges , greens, reds, pinks, oranges, greens, blues. you know, there are the different level. the picasso's of the diamond world as well . of the diamond world as well. >> what do you make of this? this rule ? and it's a bit of an this rule? and it's a bit of an informal one. three months being spent on an engagement ring. is that something that you did for mrs. leo? >> i think, i can't remember how much hers was not. i'm not going to say i can't remember. >> neil, what did you. what do you think? >> it's probably fair.

>> it's probably fair. >> yeah. you can. yeah. >> it should be 12 months, isn't it? i think, i think no, i think two years. it started in the 50s with, i think ernest oppenheimer at de beers saying, this is your engagement ring and this is what you should spend. and i think then it was one month, two months, salary. but there are no rules. it's down to affordability. and, you know, no one turns their nose up to it. >> well, talking of affordability, can you get affordable diamonds? and if so, what should you prioritise out of the four seas? should it be the carat? should it be the colour? if people are on a budget, a more modest budget, what should they be looking for? >> i'm a big believer in compromising on clarity and gaining on colour. so clarity you can't see it with the naked eye unless it's a really dirty stone and you shouldn't be shown that anyway , so you can have that anyway, so you can have bang for buck and lower down in colour and clarity. or you can have very rare white and slightly smaller. and i prefer, you know, yesterday i advised someone on two emerald cut rings and one was a two carat 53. one was a two carat, but one was a d and one was an h. and i said, let's go for the d because it will produce legs over the next

ten years, because you'll want something much bigger and will stick with that colour. >> and i just think it's important and just briefly, i'm just i'm just so curious about the whole industry. of course, you are fully above board ethical, but there is a darker side to the diamond industry, sadly. why is it, i mean, what happens? why is it so dark and so unethical? what happens at source? >> i think the issue with the diamond industry is money laundering and where one can walk through customs and various parts of the world with something that doesn't let alarms off and then trade it for alarms off and then trade it for a bit of money, or in the old days, in sierra leone, for instance, with the ruc, it was a different product, right? you know, it was that and it was big gun things. and, and i think now the industry is, extremely ethical. everyone. i'm a member of the london diamond bourse, which is a i mean the office is like a we work for london, but it's for diamond dealers. but to get in there, you've got to go through six interviews and be background checked, you know, until your birth. pretty much. so i only deal with the ethical tradeable policies. and we have

that policy in, in structure. but the sad thing is there's always a dark side, whether it's watches, diamonds , paintings, watches, diamonds, paintings, wine, you know, there's always a dark side to it. yeah. >> even gold. i heard about some gold. instances the other day of. yeah, long story short, but people smuggling gold in cessnas across borders and so on. yes >> so it's important to go with an ethical diamond dealer. definitely. do your research and know where your diamonds are from. neil dutson an absolute honoun >> you've got to take that off. >> you've got to take that off. >> by the way. no we'll be going to a break now, >> there's nothing to see here, neil. you can just pack that up and head out the studio. but really to good see you. >> thank you very much. >> thank you very much. >> bear grylls of the diamond world, neil dutson. thank you. >> good stuff. more to come on the show today, including showbiz with steph takyi dave grohl from foo fighters has been a very naughty boy and fathering a very naughty boy and fathering a child with another woman outside marriage. tut tut. maybe he needs to buy his missus a diamond ring to say sorry. >> there needs to be a bit more than that. let's have a look at the news headlines now, shall we? sophie reaper.

>> and then, you know. >> and then, you know. >> thank you. ellie, it's just after 11:30. prime minister sir keir starmer met with president joe biden at the white house in the american capital last night. the pair sat for down strategy talks about global conflicts, which sir keir described as long and productive. speaking afterwards, the pm also said that he and the us president had reached a strong position regarding ending the conflict in ukraine. >> we've stood with ukraine. ukraine has a right to self—defence and we've stood united, not just with our allies here in the us, but across with our nato allies. that's very, very important to us. but today was about having the chance to talk not just about a particular step or tactic, but the strategy in relation to ukraine. but also we covered the middle east in some extensive detail and other areas across the world. so it was a really important occasion for us to have this chance to discuss with our allies . discuss with our allies. >> meanwhile, the government is facing further backlash

following its decision to cut winter fuel payments. figures released by the department for work and pensions estimated that almost 800,000 pensioners will miss out on the benefit, under the new plans of those set to lose the support. around two thirds have a disability and 83% are aged 80 or over. downing street has said that a full impact assessment of the change has not yet taken place, and there could be even more trouble on the way for the government following recent comments by the pm around a ban on smoking outdoors at pubs, but this time from a member of their own party. labour mp for newcastle upon tyne east and wallsend, mary glindon has tabled a motion in parliament against her own party in order to try and block the potential plans in the motion, she praised the indoor smoking ban of two thousand and seven, but said that extending the ban outdoors could unduly restrict individual liberty and today is the return of strictly come dancing. the bbc show is

back and celebrating its 20th yean back and celebrating its 20th year, but following a series of controversies, many will be watching to see how the show will handle allegations against some of the professional dancers. and those are your latest gb news headlines. for now, i'm sophie reaper more from me in half an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code , alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts

>> hello! welcome back to saturday morning live with ben and andy on gb. >> news time now for your weekly dose of showbiz news. and we're delighted to have showbiz reporter steph takyi with us for another week. >> good afternoon. no morning . >> good afternoon. no morning. morning still. morning. yeah, yeah. >> morning . >> morning. >> morning. >> we need to talk about dave grohl. >> i think we do need to talk about dave grohl, because what a

bombshell. we know the rock star life comes with a lot of things, including a lot of women . but including a lot of women. but dave grohl has been happily married for 23 years now to a lovely woman called jordan . lovely woman called jordan. fabulous woman, jordan blum, who he has three daughters with. but this week he disappointed fans. and i do say disappointed by admitting that he's fathered another child who was recently born a girl. he put it in the instagram post the reason why most of these celebs come clean is because they know it's about to be made public knowledge. we don't know the full story. you don't know the full story. you don't know the full story. you don't know who this woman is. he says he does plan to be a supportive parent to this child, and that he plans on being loving to her, but it's really bittersweet here. it's good to know that he does want to look after this child that he's had out of wedlock , but for his out of wedlock, but for his family, it's embarrassing. he's always been a proclaimed family man, so a lot of his fans are disappointed. i don't know if his wife is going to take him back because he's saying, i'm trying to regain her trust and

my daughter's trust , so there's my daughter's trust, so there's a lot there. and now you've got the whole world watching, he says in that statement, as you said, i'm trying to regain their trust, but surely the trust has just exploded like a nuclear bomb. you know, cheating is one thing, but having a baby as well with this person , whoever this with this person, whoever this woman is, it's a double blow for the wife and the children. the daughters, two of them had to deactivate their instagram accounts because the pressure is just too much for that. and i just too much for that. and i just think dave grohl over the years in interviews, he talks about how much he loves his family. ella, you're making me laugh with that face. >> how does that lead you when you hear stories like that? >> how does it leave you and your opinion of men? >> well, i do think so. >> well, i do think so. >> with this. yeah, i did think he's rock n roll. and that's. it's not. >> it's not surprising. it's disappointing. >> yeah, but it's not a surprise 55 going to be a father again. >> not saying it's ever too late , >> not saying it's ever too late, but still what do you think dan. as a married man, what do you think? family man. >> oh dare i dare i speak? >> oh dare i dare i speak? >> yeah, you should. >> yeah, you should. >> come on. i just think .

>> come on. i just think. >> come on. i just think. >> look, i've always said this, and this is going to sound maybe controversial. maybe not. >> i've always said, what are you going to say? >> should i say it? i've always said, if you're going to cheat, don't advocate it. obviously. but if you're going to cheat, i know what you're going to say. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> do it. not on your doorstep abroad somewhere. >> yeah, yeah. >> yeah, yeah. >> and not in a long term relationship thing. if you need to. i don't know if you need to do it. don't be so silly as to do it. don't be so silly as to do it. don't be so silly as to do it with someone in your vicinity. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> and definitely don't have a kid with them. >> yeah, like one night stand. i think maybe you can get over as a couple, but a whole baby like that's. >> it's the emotional thing, isn't it? yeah. they've now got that connection for life. the emotional connection they share another human being. it's kind of it's not just. >> and it affects the daughters as well because then again, it's like your father has cheated on your mother. >> but i'm sure this is a situation worldwide. people can relate to. but whether their marriage is going to stand this, i doubt it for some reason. >> oh dear. really really tough. >> oh dear. really really tough. >> it's so hard for the family because it plays out, doesn't it? on the world stage. we're all talking about it. the media are talking about it and it is distressing . distressing. >> but he had to make it public.

and i know in these kind of situations there's a reason why. >> and let's talk about strictly come dancing shall we. yeah. it's back. >> it's back tonight. 15 new contestants. but we know over the past few months, the headunes the past few months, the headlines have been about the show, about alleged misconduct, bullying. so all the negative headunes bullying. so all the negative headlines have been surpassing what is supposed to be a great anniversary season this year. but i think, you know, the bbc have put things in place this yeah have put things in place this year. so the trainer and the dancer cannot exceed 48 hours. they can only have 48 hours of training in a week. so they're going to job. usually people try and do more, but they said that is the most they're going to have chaperones in. they're always with in the training sessions. they're also going to have a welfare producer. so they've spent about £250,000 extra for the series to bring this measure in. and who's on it. so we've got toyah willcox, we've got paul merson, who's going to be here. yeah, paul, merce, tasha ghouri from love island, who i think she would do really well. >> she's a dancer though.

>> she's a dancer though. >> steph , i know, i'm not sure >> steph, i know, i'm not sure if that should be allowed. >> i think that might get changed soon. and i interviewed jb gill from jls. he's also going to be there. he's received a lot of criticism, but he was telling me earlier on this week at the ntas he was like he can do like, you know, music, dancing, how he does on stage. but he says ballroom dancing is going to be new for him. so there's a different technique. >> he was on the show a few weeks ago. wasn't he getting back in? >> yeah, we should see how he does, but i am rooting for him, so i think it will be all eyes on this show. >> i think the ratings will still continue to be high this season, but we're just hoping for no negative headlines. >> lovely. let's hope so. >> lovely. let's hope so. >> and just very, very quickly justin timberlake. >> oh he looked like he wanted to cry me a river yesterday when he came out he basically admitted to being guilty of driving while impaired. initially was intoxicated, but he became all peachy peachy. and he became all peachy peachy. and he said, if you're going to have one drink, call an uber driver or call a friend to come pick you up. and i was like, justin, take your own advice. but you know what he has learned? he has

to do community service now 25 hours and he's been charged $500. is that it? that's it. yeah that's it. but the thing is, his reputation has been tainted now. so, you know, he's got his driving license has been suspended. so, you know, he's been made an example of and hopefully he won't get behind the wheel anytime soon and drink and drive. >> well let's hope so. >> well let's hope so. >> that message did make me laugh yesterday. now if you're going to have a drink, make sure you get an uber. >> yeah, we're not 16. >> yeah, we're not 16. >> i'll call a friend. >> i'll call a friend. >> neither are you. that's what i'm taking relationship advice from, you know, three time divorcee. >> yes. >> yes. >> all right steph, good to see you guys very much. >> thanks, steph. still to come? maybe my favourite part of the show will be sipping some of the best celeb wines with the founder of mouse and grape, jessica summer

welcome back to saturday morning live. >> i think the best saturday morning live we've had of you.

we have diamonds. we've had mary from selling sunset and now we've got wine. i mean, it's just the best morning ever. bit of booze. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> always good. whether it's night or five. jolene or islands in the stream. dolly parton fans are no stranger to her, belting out the hits with a glass of wine in hand, and now they too can get in on the action. she has a vino . a down to earth wine has a vino. a down to earth wine range is on sale now in the uk. >> vino , vino, vino vino. so, >> vino, vino, vino vino. so, you know, i've already been on it. >> i've clearly i've had a worse day. moose. moose and grape. it's actually mouse and grape. but look, why are celebs keen to crack the wine industry? to look at some of the hottest celeb trends . now at some of the hottest celeb trends. now we're joined by the founder of mouse and grape, not moose and grape, jessica summer and steph takyi is with us as well because she fancied getting a bit boozy before aroma. >> yeah, it kept me here. >> yeah, it kept me here. >> we can't keep you away from the wine. >> and jessica, you tried to source us a bottle. i did dolly parton's wine, didn't you? >> and it was completely sold

out, so i couldn't. i couldn't get it, but i'm sure they will be replenishing the stock soon. and that's exclusively with asda, but just a sign of how popular it is when these celebrities launch these. i mean, dolly is anicon launch these. i mean, dolly is an icon and she's got such an amazing following. and the same actually, with all of the celebrity wines that we're going to be tasting today, it's a real marketing boom. but also a lot of these celebrities do have a genuine passion and wine, so it really comes out in hopefully the quality. i've not actually tried these, so i'm excited to taste them with you today. oh well, you're getting in on the action because it's being it's being said in the press today and in the papers that dolly parton is being pitted against kylie minogue . kylie minogue. >> yes. who has a wine? >> yes. who has a wine? >> yeah. and i mean kylie's wine range is just absolutely astronomical in terms of its popularity. and today i've brought with me the kylie prosecco, which is this one here, so you can see that it's got the beautiful like hearts around it. so it's really it's a really nice looking wine, but also hopefully it matches with the taste. you can also get a rose and a rose sparkling with that too. so that is the wine that too. so that is the wine that we're going to taste first,

which is this one here for you, ben.and which is this one here for you, ben. and then the lightest one. yeah, exactly. very familiar with kylie. yeah oh, nice. cheers cheers, everyone. yeah. if you need a glass. >> don't worry. >> don't worry. >> i tell you what. this one. sorry. so this is the kylie minogue prosecco. so this one is on offer at the moment with sainsbury's. so it's only £7. so oh, is it very reasonable? wow. yeah you like that? very good. it's very nice. lovely. isn't it? it's light. it's really nice. yeah. really light. do you know whereabouts this is? base. so it's made in in italy , in the so it's made in in italy, in the prosecco region, which is veneto. and it's with the glera grape variety. and a little, a little tip for italian sparkling wines is when you see you've got the doc label. yeah. doc label here. so that basically indicates that it's a really good quality wine. and if it's docg then it's even more regulation. so if you're looking for an italian wine, that's a really good one to do. >> oh, jessica, we need you in our lives. >> so we think the kylie one is we like that. yeah, i like the kylie one too. so the next one i

wanted to talk about was the gary one. so gary went viral recently. i don't know if you saw. yeah. did you see that. yeah. but which is and i think social media plays a huge part doesn't it, in terms of the marketing of these wines and the way that when we taste wines , if way that when we taste wines, if we do first, like the smell of the aromas. okay, hang on, have you seen that meme of the guy who tastes wine on like, youtube and instagram? >> no. oh, really? anyway, long story. so i swirls it around. >> yeah, yeah, you do, you do? yeah. >> swirls around his mouth. >> swirls around his mouth. >> pungent. >> pungent. >> it is. yeah. so when you're swirling the wine what that does ben you're right. it releases more of those aromas. and the thing that is also interesting about gary's wine is that it's organic as well. >> i was going to say that. how can you tell when you've got a good organic wine? >> so it will it will tell you on the bottle, on the labelling. if it's organic, but also how you can tell if you've got a good wine is basically if the wine is balanced. so if it's got nice acidity, it's got nice mouthfeel. and also those flavours all in harmony. and also the alcohol. if something's

out of kilter and say it's too acidic, then it won't taste very pleasant. and that's what the winemakers are trying to do. >> and you were saying there was organic wine at the ntas, so gary. >> oh yes. >> oh yes. >> with his wine. >> with his wine. >> very familiar with this one. >> very familiar with this one. >> yes. >> yes. >> what do you make of it? >> what do you make of it? >> i love it, it tastes very like fruity but not too fruity. and not too acidic. so as you said, it's got the nice balance. >> yeah. really nice. this would be a lovely food wine. and it's also it's a spanish grapes as well. >> so i do prefer kyrees to gary's . gary's. >> do you like gary shaffer? yeah, yeah i quite like gary's. i mean i think they're both actually very good and i was surprised. yeah. so they're made in collaboration with these very amazing vineyards in the first place. so the quality should be up there as a really good. and what are we talking a bottle say for kylie. so for kylie's one this was on offer. it's usually £9 so it's around £7. and then for gary's his is £12. so it's slightly slightly. no it's not sorry. it's £8. oh, snoop. snoop dogg, he is £12. yeah. >> nothing about snoop dogg. >> nothing about snoop dogg. >> nothing about snoop dogg.

>> nothing to die . >> nothing to die. >> nothing to die. >> wim frijns. >> wim frijns. >> what is going on? >> what is going on? >> when did this come out? >> when did this come out? >> i know it's the red cali red. yeah. okay, so i feel like snoop dogg seems to be popping up everywhere, doesn't he? yes. >> like he just needs to retire. yeah, that's why he's making wine . wine. >> i know i love it, and i think that it's just it's clear really, because it's got his face on it . why? the demographic face on it. why? the demographic of the people who would be wanting to drink the wine. but it's a mix between syrah and zinfandel. so it's supposed to be quite jammy, quite fruity. it's jammy. it'sjammy. be quite jammy, quite fruity. it's jammy. it's jammy. yeah, yeah.i it's jammy. it's jammy. yeah, yeah. i mean, straight on the nose. you can really smell like black fruit. drink that . oh. black fruit. drink that. oh. pretty good. what do you think? was this nice? >> obviously this was made with a californian grape. yeah. >> californian grapes. yeah. and i actually i opened this when i first arrived in the studio about an hour ago. because you want this wine to air. because that basically smooths those tannins. yeah, i love that. >> it's always good to, to give your wine room to breathe. >> yeah. i could very happily dnnk >> yeah. i could very happily drink this as well. i've been i've been impressed. >> thank you so much for bringing these in. they've been fantastic. and you can pick up

dolly's wine in asda if they have it in stock, because there wasn't it wasn't this morning wasn't it wasn't this morning wasn't it? but jessica, some really good to see you steph takyi. >> as always thank you for the wine time and you always love to join us to drink wine. >> any time. thank you so much for joining us on saturday morning live today. >> don't go anywhere. darren grimes is next. have a lovely weekend and we'll see you same time next week. >> so i didn't have a long. >> so i didn't have a long. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on gb news. >> hello good morning and welcome to your gb news weather update brought to you by the met office. well, there's a bit of a split in the for weather saturday. unsettled in the north, but elsewhere, lots of fine and dry weather around and it is going to be feeling warm where you catch the sunshine too. and the reason for this split in the weather is that we've got high pressure dominating the south, but low pressure in the north. and nofice pressure in the north. and notice the squeeze in the isobars, which means some

blustery conditions too. so in northern areas, northern ireland, western parts of scotland, we've got this band of rain slowly edging its way eastwards with very blustery winds behind it and likely to see some heavier downpours on that band of rain too. but elsewhere, lots of fine, dry weather around, plenty of sunny spells and, as i say, feeling warm where you do catch the sunshine, particularly in the south and southeast. now, as we head into the evening, we are going to continue to see that band of rain slowly move its way southeastwards across the country . so fairly cloudy with country. so fairly cloudy with some damp weather around for scotland and as i say, those blustery winds continuing, particularly in the north—west, where there is a risk of some coastal gales, some cloudier conditions moving into the scottish borders, but elsewhere , scottish borders, but elsewhere, just before the sun goes down, plenty of late evening sunshine to end the day. but as soon as that sun goes down it is going to be feeling chilly, particularly across the south where we could see some spots of grass frost overnight. that band of rain is going to edge into northern areas, so cloudy and damp here and eventually the

winds are going to ease in the northwest. but plenty of blustery showers by the time we reach sunday morning. so chilly in the south. as i say, there is a chance we could see some grass frost in rural spots, but generally milder to the north of that main band of rain. so for the second half of the weekend, we've essentially got three areas of weather. we've got plenty of sunny spells and showers moving their way into scotland. these could be heavy with some hail and thunder at times. we've got a band of rain across the north and in the south. still plenty of fine and dry weather, though likely a bit more cloud around compared to today. >> looks like things are heating up . boxt boilers sponsors of up. boxt boilers sponsors of weather

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