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all right now. this show is all about opinion. it's mine and it's theirs. and of course it's yours. we'll be debating and discussing and at times we will disagree, but no one will be cancelled. so joining me for the next few hours, gb news is senior political commentator nigel nelson and also journalist and broadcaster danny kelly. on today's show, prince harry turns 40. so what kind of a decade has it been for him.7 in 40. so what kind of a decade has it been for him? in my niggle, i'll explore. would you welcome him back then , as sir keir him back then, as sir keir starmer admits that his wife accepted free clothes from their biggest donor, are they just as bad as the tories? >> a divisiveness their cruelty, their robbing and their lies go their robbing and their lies go their stop. >> the tories stop right now. see you there. >> egg on your face, love the boss of the charles gordon trust joins me later. and in clip bait. was mrs. thatcher right ? bait. was mrs. thatcher right? >> wishlist. >> wishlist. >> governments traditionally do make a financial mess. they always run out of other people's money. it's quite a
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characteristic of them. >> so labour seem intent on taxing to the hilt. was mrs. t on the money? but before we get started, let's get your latest news with tatiana sanchez . news with tatiana sanchez. >> nana, thank you and good afternoon. >> the top stories. while the home office figures show 801 illegal migrants crossed the engush illegal migrants crossed the english channel in 14 small boats yesterday, and that says eight migrants died overnight whilst trying to cross the engush whilst trying to cross the english channel. the french maritime prefecture for the engush maritime prefecture for the english channel and north sea, said 53 migrants were on board a boat which got into difficulty off the coast of northern france . off the coast of northern france. the news comes less than two weeks after a separate incident where 12 migrants died after a boat sank off the french coastline . a murder coastline. a murder investigation has been launched investigation has been launched in east london after a woman was stabbed to death. officers were called in the early hours of this morning to an address in the tower hamlets, with a 32
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year old woman still being arrested on suspicion of murder. a 37 year old man was also arrested on suspicion of assisting an offender. the foreign secretary has defended the prime minister following allegations that sir keir starmer has broken parliamentary rules by failing to declare donations of clothing for his wife. the sunday times reported the gifts came from labour donor lord alli and covered the cost of a personal shopper , clothes of a personal shopper, clothes and alterations for the prime minister's wife, victoria, dunng minister's wife, victoria, during the election campaign . during the election campaign. >> this is not a breach of transparency rules, it's a prime minister that's acting positively to make sure that everything is above board. and this money comes from a long standing over two decades, lord alli has been in the house of lords. he has been a big supporter of the labour party. he's a self—made man and i think there is nothing to see here really. >> now there's more trouble for
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sir keir starmer's government, as it's revealed pensioners could be left £1,000 worse off this winter. this comes on top of suggestions that labour could also axe the single person discount on council tax at next month's budget . the party has month's budget. the party has thus far refused to rule this out , stating that difficult out, stating that difficult decisions need to be made in to order fill the so—called £22 billion black hole left by the conservative party sir ed davey says the nhs cannot withstand labour reforms without more funding. the lib dems leader made the comments during the second day of the lib dem party conference in brighton earlier this week. sir keir starmer said the nhs will not get any more funding without reforming, as he laid out a ten year plan to fix the health service while sir ed davey says he's concerned the government is talking about reform before investment being spent on the nhs . spent on the nhs. >> and in some areas there has. but in many areas there's not enough being spent. >> and at the election we said
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in community health services, gps, nhs dentists, community pharmacists, we said they've been underfunded. >> they don't have enough staff. that was our argument and that's our argument now. and, you know, if you don't get more gps, if you don't get more nhs dentists, if you don't open those community pharmacists which are on the front line for many people's healthcare, people will end up going to hospital . that end up going to hospital. that part of the problem has been so many people have been going to hospital because we haven't got the primary care a strong as it needs to be. >> and as you probably know by now, today is the duke of sussex's 40th birthday. the youngest son of the king will celebrate the start of his 40s at his californian home with his wife meghan, and their children, archie and lilibet. the prince has said he was anxious to turn 30, but that he's excited about 40 and his mission is now doing goodin 40 and his mission is now doing good in the world. earlier this morning, the x account for the royal family wished harry a happy birthday in their first pubuc happy birthday in their first public message for the prince
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since 2021, and today is the 84th anniversary of the battle of britain , a military campaign of britain, a military campaign that was seen as a turning point of world war ii. the british royal air force fought the german luftwaffe in the skies over the uk, with the brits claiming a victory that is now commemorated each year on the 15th of september, a commemoration service took place earlier today to mark the anniversary, with both sir keir starmer and former prime minister rishi sunak both in attendance , and finally the crew attendance, and finally the crew of the first ever private space walk have returned to earth this morning. let's take a look at the moment that the spacex dragon touched down. >> and there you can see. it just copy tuc splashed . as you just copy tuc splashed. as you can see on your screen and by the cheers behind us, the polaris dawn crew has successfully splashed down. >> and those are the latest gb
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news headlines for now i'm tatiana sanchez. more from me in half an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . slash alerts. >> good morning. thank you tatiana. it'sjust >> good morning. thank you tatiana. it's just coming >> good morning. thank you tatiana. it'sjust coming up >> good morning. thank you tatiana. it's just coming up to seven minutes after 3:00. i'm nana akua. welcome to gb news. well, coming up, hip hip. hooray for prince harry as he turns 40 today. now the king and prince william wished the duke of sussex a happy birthday on social media. but is it enough to end the family feud? concert goers are actually complaining after the eu flags were confiscated at the last night of the proms. so for the great british debate, i'm asking, were the proms right to confiscate eu flags? then, as keir starmer admits that his wife accepted free clothes from their biggest donon free clothes from their biggest donor, are they just as bad as the tories are? plus, benjamin netanyahu says israel will exact
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heavy prices after yemen's , who heavy prices after yemen's, who seized claim responsibility for the ballistic missile strike. we'll get the latest from uri geller . we'll get the latest from uri geller. right. so we'll get the latest from uri geller . right. so today we'll get the latest from uri geller. right. so today marks prince harry's 40th birthday. the duke of sussex was born in 1984, in london, to king charles and the late princess diana. in and the late princess diana. in an 84 word statement ahead of his birthday, the prince praised his birthday, the prince praised his two children, archie and lilibet, and spoke of the fresh perspective that he's gained on life after becoming a father and the royal family's official x account posted wishing the duke of sussex a very happy 40th birthday today. the prince will be celebrating his birthday at his californian home with his wife meghan and friends and our royal correspondent cameron walker brings us this report. reporter prince harry turns 40. >> the once lovable party prince now far more polarising. the
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king's youngest sons made some dramatic changes to his life, moving to california with his wife meghan, quitting his lifelong royal role. he wanted financial and personal freedom but lost his honorary military titles and patronages in the process. a bitter blow for a man with deeply personal connections to the armed forces . the duke of to the armed forces. the duke of sussex is still not speaking to his brother, the prince of wales, and remains estranged from his father, the king. >> reports suggest that whilst charles would be open to a return of some sort on the part of his son and daughter in law , of his son and daughter in law, william absolutely wouldn't be open to that. >> the prince served for ten years in the british armed forces, including two tours of afghanistan. in 2014, he founded the invictus games with the help of the foundation. he shared at the time with prince william and catherine. >> sport has the ability to heal >> sport has the ability to heal, to change lives and to save lives.
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>> the paralympic style competition helps wounded, injured and sick veterans through sport and celebrated ten years in may. the prince also found the charity sentebale in 2006, which supports young people in southern africa. >> at the heart of sentebale, what we've always believed is that every single young person should have a chance at a better future. >> wellchild has him as patron, helping seriously ill young people in the uk. >> it allows us to shine a spotlight on the resilience and positivity that they demonstrate every single day. >> the expensive fairy tale marriage to meghan markle in 2018 has produced two children prince archie, who's five, and princess lilibet, who's three. this week, prince harry told the bbc that becoming a father of two incredibly kind and funny kids has given me a fresh perspective on life , as well as perspective on life, as well as sharpening my focus in all my work . but tensions remain, work. but tensions remain, particularly with the british press , and his popularity has
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press, and his popularity has plummeted. having previously been one of the most popular members of the royal family. he's launched a number of legal battles against british newspaper publishers in recent years , going against the royals. years, going against the royals. never complain, never explain motto. meanwhile, his legal battle with the home office over his uk security is said to have frustrated the king. harry is expected to celebrate his 40th birthday with family and friends today, a time to reflect on the past and look to the future. cameron walker gb news. >> so is it time to forgive and forget? well, joining me now is former bbc royal correspondent michael cole. michael, lovely to see you . see you. >> good afternoon. the big surprise of today is that the prince and princess of wales added their birthday . good added their birthday. good wishes to those of buckingham palace. now, there's been none of that for at least two years. so what should we read into
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that? well, i would say it is definitely not an olive branch. there is no , contemplation of there is no, contemplation of any rapprochement between the brothers. the brothers are still at war. i think it's a case, really, of noblesse oblige doing the right thing in just acknowledging his important 40th birthday. but i think the fragile, the coldness that exists, which didn't. when we see that lovely picture of them all together, will continue at the moment it is said nana, the king this afternoon will at some stage talk via video link, rather like we are at the moment to his son in california. eight hours behind us. so it's just after 7:00 in the morning. there whether that happens or not remains to be seen. but, however much the king may wish for a reconciliation, i think there would be no chance of that with
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his brother as things are at the moment. >> because i can imagine that william won't want any sort of reconciliation. i mean, look, if prince harry wants to get involved and be part of it, and the king has extended the olive branch and harry would like william to potentially , you william to potentially, you know, you know, reunite and to be friends, you'd think he would perhaps amend the paperback of his spare memoir that's coming out in a couple of weeks. >> yeah, well, he didn't add anything to it, and he didn't. an afterword or a new chapter. maybe that was also a gesture that he didn't want to cause more hurt, because you can't exaggerate the amount of hurt that that was caused , not just that that was caused, not just because of his revelations and criticisms of his brother, but of course, of the princess of wales. and i think that's the thing that most bitterly upset his brother william. and i think it's going to be a very long time before there's any possibility of a reconciliation between them and a renewal of the friendship. the brotherhood
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that was once so real and so important in their lives. a very, very great pity, of course, 40th birthday an important time. 40 is used to be said as the, you know, the beginning of your life again, and by this time a man should know where he's going and know what he's doing . one has to what he's doing. one has to wonder whether prince harry really does know. there are other reports that you know he's missing this country. i don't think he wants to come back here. of course. permanently. his family, as he said, are most important to him. that's quite understandable and one can commend that. but it's interesting in that 84 word message, which he gave on his fourth just before his 40th birthday, there's no mention of meghan at all. and people who are looking into these things and read the runes are wondering if that was in any way significant. >> does he not get some money as well because he's turned 40? >> yes. that's right. quite a nice birthday present. allegedly
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7 or £8 million allegedly left to him by the late queen mother, who also looked after all her grandchildren and great grandchildren. but of course, i say allegedly because royal wills are sealed , we'll never wills are sealed, we'll never know who left, what to whom . and know who left, what to whom. and so it's a matter of speculation, but i don't think he's short of a bob or two. the only thing is that his lifestyle in california is extremely expensive, round the clock security, and so on. and also keeping up with the there celebrated friends who live around them . so i'm sure it live around them. so i'm sure it will come in very handy. but whether it's the solution to all the problems, meanwhile , the the problems, meanwhile, the archewell foundation, which is the one they used for all their good works, which they're very happy about, has rather grandly rebranded itself as the office of prince harry and meghan. the duke and duchess of sussex. well, now we know.
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>> yeah, we know indeed. and speaking of meghan, she apparently specifically said that she feels remorse over the royal racist controversy that was reported in grazia magazine, which came through supposed friends of meghan markle. is there do we think that that might be part of it? they're moving towards the royal family to perhaps try and, you know, make make amends in some way ? make make amends in some way? >> well, of course, there's always hope, one hates to see family disputes , whether they're family disputes, whether they're in the royal family or in your family or anywhere around the corner family. but i think the chances of that are almost negligible . they really are, negligible. they really are, because so much hurt has been caused and they've they've made their views clear. i mean, it was quite clear when they left the royal family in 2020, scooting first to canada and then on to california, which may have been her original destination . anyway, she quit. destination. anyway, she quit. quit the royal family she didn't
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want it quite, quite clearly she didn't want it. and he is there. i'm sure there are things about this country and his friends over here. he must miss them. of course he must. of course he must. yeah, i think, yeah, i think that's. >> you'd think so, michael. but the way he's behaving, actions speak louder than words. michael cole, thank you very much. always a pleasure. good afternoon . you're with me. i'm afternoon. you're with me. i'm nana mark white. this is gb news. we are live on tv, online and on digital radio. we've got and on digital radio. we've got a packed show for you coming up. yemen's houthis claim responsibility for the ballistic missile attack on israel. uri geller will be giving us the latest . and then next, as prince latest. and then next, as prince harry turns 40. is it for him? meghan return to the uk and
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in. good. it's the early part of the show. we've got loads more to bring you. i'm nana akua. this is a gb news. you can also stream the show live on youtube. but now it's time for the great british debate this out. i'm asking as prince harry turns 40, should the duke and duchess of sussex perhaps return to the uk and start afresh? i mean, would you forgive them? a new survey by ipsos reveals that over a third of brits would support prince harry coming home and resuming royal duties. so for the great british, bake the tart, i'm asking as prince harry turns 40, should the duke and duchess of sussex return to the uk and start afresh? right. well joining me now is gb news, senior political commentator nigel nelson. and also broadcaster and journalist danny kelly. danny kelly i can start with nigel o. kelly. danny kelly i can start with nigel 0. after all that, that's exactly nigel nelson. what do you think of this? yes. >> i'd like to see them return. i was very sorry that they decided to give up royal duties. i think their place is in the royal family, and certainly i would like to see them back . would like to see them back. now. there's a lot of bridge
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building to do to make that happen, so i don't expect it to happen, so i don't expect it to happen quickly. as michael was saying earlier that, a couple of events today, the idea that the royal family send the first message to harry for two years to wish him a happy 40th birthday, the fact that the, prince and princess of wales have done the same thing, that feels like a little bit of a thaw. not, not an olive branch as, as michael was saying, but a bit of a thaw. and the fact that harry is not updating his book. very unusual to not update a paperback from a really successful hardback. so we're missing things in there, like the coronation, how he felt about the cancer diagnosis for kate and for his father. but the fact that he's left well alone , fact that he's left well alone, that again feels like a bit of a can. we try and try and make up? well, he hasn't taken out that camilla is dangerous. >> or the bit about william's
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bald patch, even though his is just as big. >> no, it hasn't amended it, but he hasn't. he hasn't added to it. >> listen, take those things out. he could take some of those. >> well, that would probably be would be going a bit too far on the basis they're already out there. what he hasn't done is added anything to it. >> but it would demonstrate an amount a level of contrition, wouldn't it? danny >> kenny, did you mention a bald patch? yeah. us bald men are very sensitive about our patches. >> bald under this very sensitive. >> covered mine up. i would like to see them come back, but not the same reasons as nigel, because i just think it would be blockbuster entertainment, i really would. what was interesting about that ipsos survey, a third one and back, the biggest story is two thirds of the uk don't want them back. that's the story. a 3rd may want two thirds. don't. i'd like to see them come back because it'll be fireworks. nobody generally speaking, nobody likes a rat. nobody likes someone snitching on their family. don't forget he actually threw them under the bus. you know, when he wore a nazi nazi uniform, he blamed his sister. he blamed his brother and kate for that. i mean, that
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is going low because that's what people really. if people want to give harry a kick and they'll say, oh, well, you're dressed like a member of the ss or whatever, and now he's saying, oh, it's not my fault. my brother taught me to do it. >> yeah, but his brother didn't dress him in it, you know. exactly. this is what you get from these two, though , sadly, from these two, though, sadly, i don't want to be horrible because it's his birthday, so i think i should be really nice. but you can't blame somebody else for making you dress up in an outfit when you're a grown man. he's a grown man. >> unless he was high as a kite on cocaine at the time. oh, he couldn't make his own decisions. no evidence of that? no. he does. he admits it in the book. >> when he was 17, he was dressed wearing the. >> when he was 17, he was snorting coke. it's in the book. well okay. >> it's in the book. but look, i mean, there's no evidence at that particular decision. he'll use that now to say that's the reason why i did it. no, he probably won't. >> and nigel nelson, well, i mean , yes, he made mistakes that mean, yes, he made mistakes that he's now. yes exactly. and we're going we're going back now some years when he was a younger man and i think he has had difficulties growing up obviously with the with the death of his mother when he was 12. the other thing, i think that he seemed to be happiest
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when he was in the army and he was really upset and i think i sort of felt for him when the media then decided to out the fact he was in afghanistan, it wasn't the british media we all knew. he was there, but we'd all we'd agreed with the mod that we would never report it until he returned home. it was a foreign media that found him there that blew his cover and made him a kidnap risk. so he had to come home and he was hugely disappointed about that . so disappointed about that. so there were a load of things leading up to his 30s where i think he'd had a pretty rough time. and he says in his 30s he was anxious. now he's looking forward to his 40s. >> but, you know, a lot of people lose their parents when they're in their young. some lose them even younger than that. he lost his mother. but, you know, he has he has got money. i know that can't bring people back. but you've got money, you've got pampering, you've got everything around any anything , you've got everything around any anything, any you've got everything around any anything , any resource you need. anything, any resource you need. you could have. >> i don't see i don't buy that.
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money can bring you happiness. >> no, i don't buy that either. >> no, i don't buy that either. >> i don't buy that. you know, i don't buy that i don't. you can have all the dough in the world in montecito, living in a ten bedroom pad with a swimming pool outside doesn't mean that you're happy. it doesn't mean that you can't step out your front door and maybe go for a jog or something, or go to the newsagents to buy some papers. >> the point i was making is that he's got all that, and yet he's so flaming ungrateful. >> well, i would i would separate the money from how he feels emotionally because i'm saying that you have all of that and you can really, you know, use all of that to help you get through it. >> at the end of the day, whilst money isn't everything, i have more sympathy for somebody who's absolutely, you know, penniless with absolutely nothing going through a similar thing than him. if you put the two people next to each other, if somebody who's got absolutely nothing, somebody who's gone through exactly the same thing and then there's him, at least he has the resources to get help. >> and he is financially motivated. look at the netflix deals. look at the book deals. you in fact, you know, you can't have it both ways. i suppose if you are, if you are, are you on? no. because. because what? because the confused there. well, no. let me clarify . i
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well, no. let me clarify. i don't want you to be confused because you can be financially driven. but then when you get all the dough, you realise that it doesn't help. >> but this is isn't this isn't this family unique? so what he might be upset about, which i think would be understandable, is you've got the queen. that one of the reasons he says he stayed in britain for as long as he did is because he wanted to support his grandmother. this is a unique kind of position to be in. yeah, and the fallout with the family. one of the king, the other the heir to the throne , other the heir to the throne, that's big stuff i can understand that really actually plays on your plays on your conscience. >> yeah, but and that's true . >> yeah, but and that's true. but let's be honest, he got in that position all by himself on his own. he didn't need anybody's help. he went on to oprah , which was madness. when oprah, which was madness. when he said that he wanted privacy, they both went on there . then they both went on there. then they both went on there. then they accused somebody in the royal family of being racist, which he later retracted two years later after the queen had died. so she went to her grave, not knowing that actually what he meant by it was unconscious bias, which means he gaslit the world. then he blamed the
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british press for the misinterpretation. it was what he should do if they wanted to ingratiate themselves further with the two thirds of the british public who don't want to see him back, they should maybe be more contrite and say, do you know what? >> on reflection, we could have worded things differently and if, say something a bit like that, and she said she regrets the way she should say she's sorry rather than regret because she's oprah winfrey at the time she's oprah winfrey at the time she said what they said, what? and at that point she should have said no oprah, no, no, no, you've got the wrong the wrong end of the stick. nothing racist. you've got the wrong end of the stick. but she didn't. and she let it develop into a worldwide story. and now, two years later, she's saying she regrets it. say sorry. >> she said, if that is your assumption, that's a fair assumption, that's a fair assumption to make. that's it. >> yeah. words to that effect, which is not really. and now she's backtracked. >> well she's i mean they're, they're trying to say it's not racism. we weren't talking about racism. we weren't talking about racism. if you weren't talking about racism you should have corrected them. >> nipped it in the bud. yeah, absolutely . absolutely. >> yes. >> yes. >> allowing it to sort of manifest itself. >> they haven't made huge mistakes along the way. >> mistakes they should say sorry then. >> and i think saying sorry. absolutely. if you really wanted to come back. and as i said, it
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doesn't seem to be that much evidence he really does is the is the point. >> i don't think he does. >> i don't think he does. >> and he's still got this this fuss about security that he's suing the home office over which he shouldn't have left the royals in the first place. if he wanted armed policemen around him all the time. but apart from that, that if gradually he was able to get back, now he's in his 40s into the royal family. i join all those other people who were saying, yeah, we quite like to see him back. >> i slightly object to paying for him. >> that third of the british public. you're in the minority. well, you're in the minority. >> the first time i would object to paying anything towards his upkeep, i find. i'm sorry , but i upkeep, i find. i'm sorry, but i just find the way they've behaved. how rude they've been to their family. i mean, look, meghan's dad hasn't even seen the kids. >> yeah, and also the staff they're leaving in their droves. you know, apparently she's just gone through her 10th pa or something. that tells you all you need to know about a person. yeah, it tells you all you need to know about what it's like to work for her. >> well, no, i mean, look, in the defence. not necessarily. maybe the people that they kept employing, maybe they've got bad judgement and keep employing ten
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times. >> you want to suck the air, guy doing the interviewing then. >> well, that perhaps that's maybe he's the one, one of the ones that's already gone. >> he's number 11. >> he's number 11. >> it's only a job i wouldn't take. >> well, listen, keep your thoughts coming. we'd to love hear your messages to prince harry. we'll always do that and read them out. gbnews.com/yoursay, you're with me. i'm nana akua. this is gb news. we're live on tv , online news. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. coming up. yemen's houthis claim responsibility for the ballistic missile attack on israel. we'll get the latest from uri geller. but first, let's get your latest news headlines with tatiana sanchez. >> nana. thank you. the top stories home office figures show 801 illegal migrants crossed the engush 801 illegal migrants crossed the english channel in 14 small boats yesterday. that is, as eight migrants died overnight whilst trying to cross the channel. the french maritime prefecture for the english channel and north sea said 53
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migrants were on board a boat which got into difficulty off the coast of northern france. the news comes less than two weeks after a separate incident where 12 migrants died after a boat sank off the french coastline . a murder coastline. a murder investigation has been launched investigation has been launched in east london after a woman was stabbed to death. officers were called in the early hours of this morning to an address in tower hamlets with a 32 year old woman. since being arrested on suspicion of murder. a 37 year old man was also arrested on suspicion of assisting an offender . foreign secretary offender. foreign secretary david lammy has defended the prime minister following allegations that sir keir starmer has broken parliamentary rules by failing to declare donations of clothing for his wife. the sunday times reported the gifts came from labour donor lord alli and covered the cost of a personal shopper , clothes of a personal shopper, clothes and alterations for the prime minister's wife during the election campaign. >> this is not a breach of transparency rules, it's a prime
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minister that's acting positively to make sure that everything is above board and this money comes from a long standing over two decades. lord alli has been in the house of lords. he has been a big supporter of the labour party. he's a self—made man, and i think there is nothing to see here really . here really. >> and today is the duke of sussex's 40th birthday. the youngest son of the king will celebrate the start of his 40s at his californian home with his wife meghan, and their children, archie and lilibet . the prince archie and lilibet. the prince has said he was anxious to turn 30, but that he's excited about turning 40 and his mission is now doing good in the world. earlier this morning, the account for the royal family wished harry a happy birthday in their first public message for their first public message for the prince since 2021. and those are the latest gb news headlines. for now, i'm tatiana sanchez. i'll be back in half an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign
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>> 35 minutes after 3:00. good afternoon. welcome. this is gb news. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua. now it's time for the great british debate. this year i'm asking will the royal albert hall right to confiscate eu flags at the proms? the last night of the proms? now, last month, the royal albert hall released guidance banning flags related to proscribed groups to protect protest and hatred. but last night there was confusion as to some attendees as they had their eu flags taken away from them. so for the great british debate, i'm asking with the royal albert hall right to confiscate eu flags at the proms. joining me now gb news, senior political commentator
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nigel nelson, also journalist and broadcaster danny kelly, danny kelly i think they were right. >> i don't like to see the union flags at last night of the proms, the union flag. sorry. i beg your pardon. the you know, i've got this proscribed terror organisation on my mind and it's not the european union. no it's not. it's the they're definitely not. it's the they're definitely not prescribed terrorists anyway. no i think they are. i don't like to see it. i think it's trying to sort of sow division and it's almost an arrogant, conceited way of, of hijacking this particular spectacular occasion to , just if spectacular occasion to, just if you like, rub people's noses in it, that they were wrong. that's their perception. that's their argument. perfectly reasonable position to take. and i think that last night of the proms is all about what's great about the united kingdom. okay, we're not part of the european union anymore, and you get the impression that there are all these middle class leftie luvvies who are just trying to take, take control of the situation. this is an iconic evening in the history of british tv , because that's the british tv, because that's the only time i watch it on the television. and i think that they were right to confiscate
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them. >> but but what about this freedom of expression, freedom of speech? >> well, express yourself outside. that's not what last night's the proms is about, nigel nelson. >> well, first of all, they should get their rules sorted out because some eu flags were confiscated and some weren't. so the staff there didn't know what they were meant to be doing. now, the rules at the moment say that anyone can bring in a national flag. what you can't bnnginis national flag. what you can't bring in is a protest flag. so you could argue the eu flag is a protest against brexit and you wouldn't be able to bring in a palestinian flag, apparently. but they don't say anything about an israeli one. if there are israelis in the audience, they may want to wave their flag. would it be be against their rules to bring in a united nafions their rules to bring in a united nations flag ? so my point really nations flag? so my point really is, if you're going to have flags at an event, what you can't do is, is stop people bringing in the flag of their choice, provided it's not a proscribed organisation like isis or hamas or something like that. isis or hamas or something like that . beyond that, you
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isis or hamas or something like that. beyond that, you must you must let everything in. is this what we've become? >> would you would you not want the union? would you want the union jack being confiscated as people walk in by point? >> basically, is that these flags alongside the union jack, like you , i watched the last like you, i watched the last night of the proms because i love all that. i love the idea of pomp and waving union jacks and, singing rule britannia, i think. i think it's a great evening, a great british event. what i'm saying is , if they what i'm saying is, if they rule, if their rules are such that they can't understand what they're doing, then ban all flags. and that would have to include the union jack better still, what they should do is why would it include the union jack? >> you could ban all flags apart from the union jack. it's your venue, your rules. you can have whatever you want in there. why not? >> well, in which case, i would. if it's their venue, their rules. let's have the eu flag too, i mean, well , their rules too, i mean, well, their rules would say no, you're not bringing that in. >> because this is about the united kingdom. so if you want to bring in a flag, either bring in a united kingdom, one or maybe parts of the union, but don't bring in so you can bring in else. >> so hang on, you could bring
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in a scottish flag and a welsh flag. >> no, you'd have to decide. i don't know whether i would or i wouldn't. i don't know what the deal would be, but if you have the united kingdom flag, that's all of them. >> yeah. i mean, i don't think i would i don't know whether with the other two, but you'd have to be clear. >> but i would say no, no other flags. they'd have to be british flags. they'd have to be british flags. right. >> so if they wanted to bring in a stars and stripes, that would be banned. >> no, that's not what's wrong with you, nigel. stars and stripes. where's that for? >> well, for america, exactly what did i say i right, i heard exactly what you said. i hope you start running the albert hall now. >> but nigel, before brexit, i would hazard a guess. i don't know, but i would be surprised if ever there was an eu flag before brexit. now that tells you all you need to know about what is motivating the people who are carrying the flag. >> that's what i'm saying. there's no connection. >> so? so i don't think it's the occasion for protests, but i think it's the occasion for unity . unity. >> where do you stand if they allow national flags and where would you stand about an israeli flag or a palestinian flag? >> i wouldn't allow it in because we're not in israel and we're not on the gaza strip. >> so we're back to where you are. in fact, only union jacks. >> but i think most israelis would understand that and would
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probably bring in a union jack flag because they're probably, you know, very supportive of the united kingdom. anyway, they're politically motivated flags at the moment. >> forgive me , forgive me. >> forgive me, forgive me. they're political. oh, can i okay. i'm sorry. >> i'll come to the end now. >> i'll come to the end now. >> all right . >> all right. >> all right. >> i'll let you finish what you have to say. so when i'm talking, let me finish and then you can come in when i'm done. >> have you finished? >> have you finished? >> no. i'll let you know. there'll be a silence there . there'll be a silence there. >> politically, they're politically motivated. and that's the problem . that's the problem. israel—palestine, eu , russia. israel—palestine, eu, russia. i've finished talking now . so i've finished talking now. so it's over to nana. >> don't let me start me. it's my show business again because of what? i'm tired. yeah. look, i mean , seriously, is this what i mean, seriously, is this what we've become, though? you can't bnng we've become, though? you can't bring that flag . i sort of bring that flag. i sort of think. yeah. i don't want people to bring in protest flags. the flags have become to mean things that are protest, like the pro—palestine protest flag and people bringing in this to say it's all passive aggressive, kind of. it's bad manners,
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basically. bad manners. >> yeah. yeah, it is bad manners. no, i think people should bring in a union jack. i'm just saying that the rules themselves need to be clarified to make sure that the albert hall know what they're doing, which clearly what happened here, they didn't. >> yeah. that's bad management. you had a few you had a few people letting them in. you had most of them not letting them in. yeah. so you can't just use a couple of examples to say they got it terribly wrong. and you need to decide what your policy is from now on. >> well, we seem to agree nana's rule will be union jack's only mine would be national flag. and forget the protest side of it. >> so i'd like the scottish one in. and the welsh one. >> well , in. and the welsh one. >> well, yeah. >> well, yeah. >> and a northern irish one and an english one. >> but you asked me that and that was a good point, would you, under this rule, would people be able to bring a scottish and welsh one. yeah. so it doesn't matter. part of great britain, part of the united kingdom. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> i think i'd be all for that. >> i think i'd be all for that. >> do you reckon you're okay with great britain? >> i'm okay with that because that's all part of the union. i like the union jack because it's united. yeah, but the other ones are fine as well. right
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>> but if scots brought them in to support scottish independence, that would be a protest flag. well, at that point , yes. point, yes. >> well, how do you know what's under the rules to be back. yeah. but you don't know what's motivating them when they carry a scottish flag, you don't know what's motivating them when they're carrying an eu one. >> well we do, we all suspect. oh, we do know. we suspect that it's actually a protest against brexit. >> there you go then. >> there you go then. >> yeah that's what we suspect. but we don't absolutely know. >> that's the reason people can lie. even if you thought you did know they'd make something else up. so we're not going to get anywhere with this. look, i actually think that now i've thought it through , i probably thought it through, i probably wouldn't allow the different elements, the separate parts of the union, and i'd just say union jack flags only because then otherwise you will end up with you could end up in the same position again. okay, okay. everybody agreed with that at home. what do you think ? home. what do you think? gbnews.com/yoursay next. yemen's houthis claim responsibility for the ballistic missile strike on israel. uri gellerjoins me in a moment
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welcome back. we are gb news. we are the people's channel. i'm nana akua. if you just tuned in. where have you been? you've missed 46 minutes, but it's fine. there's loads more now. lots of you have been getting in touch @gbnews dot com forward slash your site. we're talking about the flag. valerie says it's our country. our flag . we should be country. our flag. we should be able to fly it without comments. come on king charles, defend your country. you need to speak out or you'll be banned from flying the flag over buckingham palace. you tell him, girl. paul says the night of the proms is about the uk and is a british event and tradition. nothing to do with anywhere else. therefore no other flags should be allowed . no other flags should be allowed. yeah, yeah, with you on that one, this one, last night of the proms is a celebration of britishness . is nigel farage britishness. is nigel farage britishness. is nigel farage british phobic. nigel nelson joining me? >> no i'm not. >> no i'm not. >> you better not be. and then hugh says , did the albert hall hugh says, did the albert hall confiscate eu flags? yes. i think that was the issue, wasn't it? yeah, that was the story.
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that was the story. my friend. yeah, they did, which i think is fair enough , richard says this, fair enough, richard says this, david lammy has defended the prime minister. he now defend yourself, mr lammy. interesting. i'm not quite sure what that relates to , but he was on relates to, but he was on earlier. david lammy was talking earlier. david lammy was talking earlier . earlier. david lammy was talking earlier. raisi he was defending the prime minister over the suit, wasn't he? the money for the for the outfits, for the wife . yeah. lord alli yep yep wife. yeah. lord alli yep yep yep - wife. yeah. lord alli yep yep yep . let's see. lots of you yep. let's see. lots of you getting in touch. keep them coming . gbnews.com/yoursay coming. gbnews.com/yoursay right. but as bbc bosses hit back after the report published last week, which showed 1500 occasions where the broadcaster had shown bias towards israel in its coverage of the war with hamas. and just yesterday, yemen's houthis hit israel with ballistic missiles, sparking a fire. well, let's discuss some of these developments with developments with the former and mr uri geller. uri i want to talk about this because what are your thoughts? because the bbc broadcaster, what's his name ? broadcaster, what's his name? jeremy. jeremy bowen dismissed
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the report that there were 1500 incidents which showed bias towards israel. what are your thoughts? or against israel? okay okay, let me react to this news. >> the bbc middle east editor , >> the bbc middle east editor, jeremy bowen, has flippantly dismissed . yes, dismissed an dismissed. yes, dismissed an investigation into bbc's bias against israel . against israel. >> but nana he himself is in the report and in my opinion, he has not even read it. this is breathtaking arrogance. i'll repeat it. breathtaking arrogance. this shows that bowen is not to be trusted. he is not impartial and he is incapable of taking criticism. look, the bbc needs to get rid of jeremy bowen. this is my opinion now. something else nana i'm actually in the uk at the moment. i'm
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here with my daughter and my granddaughters and even though i'm not in israel, i was still woken up this morning by missile sirens on my phone . on my phone. sirens on my phone. on my phone. listen, listen to this . this is listen, listen to this. this is what everyone in israel has to go through every day . this is an go through every day. this is an alert. this is an alert which everyone in israel gets. i mean, the minute the minute the phone sounds, this alert, this warns people to take immediately coven people to take immediately cover. people run out of their apartments into shelters because we are under attack . missile we are under attack. missile attack. nana. can you imagine living like this in the uk? it's unbelievable. unacceptable of course. but what happened was a missile was fired from yemen, from yemen . but thank god it from yemen. but thank god it landed in an open area and there were no casualties. this is nana
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our daily reality in israel . our daily reality in israel. now, let me show you something else. look this is this is totally shocking . look, nana, totally shocking. look, nana, you have children this week it was revealed that the entrance to a tunnel where six of our hostages were brutally murdered in gaza was hidden inside a child's bedroom. look at this . child's bedroom. look at this. inside a child's bedroom, an innocent and innocent palestinian , an innocent palestinian, an innocent palestinian, an innocent palestinian child was used as cover by hamas in order to hide a war crime. these tunnels, by the way, are all over gaza. they're still over 100 hostages in them , including a baby. a in them, including a baby. a baby nana. and it also is believed that the hamas leader , believed that the hamas leader, whose name is yahia sinwar, is hiding there, too. but look, nana, i'm going to tell you
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something sensational here on gb news. so listen very carefully . news. so listen very carefully. it is well known that i have paranormal powers. i'm what they call a remote viewer. this means i'm able to see things which are out of sight to ordinary people. of course. in fact, the cia used me in a top secret project called project stargate in the 70s. you can google it. just put in project stargate now , i in project stargate now, i cannot say too much because it is all very, very confidential. but all i will say is some people believe that i know with my psychic powers exactly where sinwar is. look i will not confirm that myself. i cannot go into it . but confirm that myself. i cannot go into it. but sinwar confirm that myself. i cannot go into it . but sinwar should know into it. but sinwar should know that i into it. but sinwar should know thati can into it. but sinwar should know that i can see very, very far and very, very deep. the problem is nana is that sinwar is
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surrounding himself with hostages, which he is using as human shields , and he will kill human shields, and he will kill them if he is cornered . and them if he is cornered. and that's what i have to say in my opinion. and mark my words, the idf will capture him dead or alive, very soon. >> uri geller, always a pleasure to talk to you. thank you very much . that is uri geller. he's much. that is uri geller. he's live there now. of course i can't verify the story that he said with regard to the hostages being found in a child's bedroom or behind the hidden there, but those were his thoughts. and that's what he said with regard to the bbc, bbc spokesperson said that we have serious questions about the methodology of this report, particularly its heavy reliance on al to analyse impartiality. heavy reliance on al to analyse impartiality . however, we will impartiality. however, we will consider the report carefully and respond directly to the authors once we have had time to study it in detail. all right, so that's what everyone's been saying. that's what that's the message from the bbc. gb news. com forward slash your say let's
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have a quick look at what people have a quick look at what people have been saying. benny's been in touch . this one he says bbc in touch. this one he says bbc are infested with left wing liberals pushing their views instead of reporting without bias. it's been going on for decades and until we make the bbc fund themselves, it will continue . caitlin says this with continue. caitlin says this with regard to the daily express . she regard to the daily express. she says you have no plan. starmer, tories blast pm as a man with no ideas to stop migration or plans are safely hidden away in a brain full of fog . i love it, brain full of fog. i love it, i'm sorry i couldn't help. that's good. keep them coming. keep those coming. gbnews.com forward slash your say. and then valerie who said there should be no debate over flying our union jack . it's our country. it's our jack. it's our country. it's our flag . absolutely. we'll keep flag. absolutely. we'll keep them coming . gbnews.com/yoursay them coming. gbnews.com/yoursay next my monologue on prince harry. it's his 40th birthday. should he be so excited about the next milestone while living in the us or should he and
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meghan build bridges and return to the uk ? let us know what you to the uk? let us know what you think. as ever, go to the usual places you can also download the gb news app where you can watch the programmes and everything on this channel completely free. but now let's get an update with your weather. >> looks like things are heating up. boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news >> hello, good afternoon and welcome to your gb news weather update brought to you by the met office. well, as we head into next week we have high pressure building, so that means plenty of fine and dry weather around and some fairly warm days on offer too. for the end of the weekend though, we do have this cold front which is slowly edging its way towards the southeast of the country, and that's bringing in some cloud and some outbreaks of rain and drizzle. now, as we head into the evening, there will still be some rain and drizzle towards the south, but it is generally easing and should just be largely cloudy. and that means it's going to be a fairly mild night compared to recent nights.
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to the north of this, though, plenty of clear skies and light winds, so we're likely to see some mist and fog develop overnight, particularly in north western parts. and it's going to be fairly chilly too. so in rural areas, likely to see some spots of grass frost. so as i say to start monday morning there should be plenty of fine bright weather around, but there's likely to be some mist and fog in places as well, particularly in those rural spots. so even though there'll be bright sunshine, do take care for the monday morning commute , for the monday morning commute, particularly in northern parts of wales, northwest england , of wales, northwest england, where there could be some quite dense fog in places towards the south. a fairly cloudy start still could be the drips and drabs of rain and drizzle across hilly areas, but any mist and fog and cloud is generally going to be lifting and breaking through the course of the day as that high pressure builds . and that high pressure builds. and that high pressure builds. and that means plenty of fine and dry conditions to start the new working week. perhaps a bit more high cloud in the northwest towards the end of the day, perhaps even seeing some rain and drizzle creeping into the outer hebrides, but otherwise plenty of fine dry weather and
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feeling fairly warm as well, with highs of 22 celsius down in the southeast into the evening. feeling quite chilly as soon as the sun goes down. likely to see some frost once again and some mist and fog, but still more in the way of cloud feeding into the way of cloud feeding into the northwest. and as we head into the next week, high pressure sticking around. so once again, lots of fine warm, sunny weather around . sunny weather around. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers . sponsors of boxt boilers. sponsors of weather on gb
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well. >> hello. good afternoon and welcome to gb news. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua and for the next few hours, me and my panel will be taking on some of the big topics hitting the headlines. right now, this show is all about opinion. it's mine, it's theirs. and of course it's
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yours. we'll be debating, discussing and at times we will disagree , but no one will be disagree, but no one will be cancelled. so joining me today is gb news senior political commentator nigel nelson, also journalist and broadcaster danny kelly. on today's show, prince harry turns 40. so what kind of a decade has it been for him? in my niggle, i'll explore. would you welcome him back then, as keir starmer admits that his wife accepted free clothes from their biggest donor, are they just as bad as the tories? >> a divisiveness , they're >> a divisiveness, they're cruelty, they're robbing and there lies go their stop . there lies go their stop. >> the tories stop. vote right now. see you there . now. see you there. >> yeah. awkward. the boss of the charles gordon trust joins me later in clip . bates was mrs. me later in clip. bates was mrs. thatcher right . thatcher right. >> socialist governments traditionally do make a financial mess. they always run out of other people's money. >> it's quite a characteristic of them. >> labour seem intent on taxing to the hilt , >> labour seem intent on taxing to the hilt, but was mrs. t on the money? before we get started, let's get your latest
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news with tatiana sanchez . news with tatiana sanchez. >> nana, thank you and good afternoon. the top stories home office figures show 801 illegal migrants crossed the english channelin migrants crossed the english channel in 14 small boats yesterday . and that's as eight yesterday. and that's as eight migrants died overnight whilst trying to cross the channel. 53 migrants were on board a boat which got into difficulty off the coast of northern france. around 51 survivors were rescued. six were taken to hospital , rescued. six were taken to hospital, including a ten month old baby suffering from hypothermia. the news comes less than two weeks after a separate incident where 12 migrants died after a boat sank off the french coastline . a murder coastline. a murder investigation has been launched investigation has been launched in east london after a woman was stabbed to death . officers were stabbed to death. officers were called in the early hours of this morning to an address in tower hamlets with a 32 year old woman. since being arrested on suspicion of murder. a 37 year
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old man was also arrested on suspicion of assisting an offender. the foreign secretary has defended the prime minister following allegations that sir keir starmer has broken parliamentary rules by failing to declare donations of clothing for his wife, victoria. the sunday times reports. the gifts came from labour donor lord alli and covered the cost of a personal shopper, clothes and alterations for the prime minister's wife during the election campaign. >> this is not a breach of transparency rules, it's a prime minister that's acting positively to make sure that everything is above board. and this money comes from a long standing over two decades, lord alli has been in the house of lords. he has been a big supporter of the labour party. he's a self—made man and i think there is nothing to see here, really. >> and there's more trouble for sir keir starmer's government, as it's revealed pensioners could be left £1,000 worse off this winter. this comes on top
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of suggestions that labour could also axe the single person discount on council tax at next month's budget. the party has thus far refused to rule this out, stating that difficult decisions need to be made in order to fill these so—called £22 billion black hole left by the conservatives sir ed davey says the nhs cannot withstand labour reforms without more funding. the liberal democrats leader made the comments during the second day of the lib dem party conference in brighton today. earlier this week, sir keir starmer said the nhs will not get any more funding without reforming as he laid out a ten year plan to fix the health service. sir ed davey says he's concerned the government's talking about reform before investment being spent on the nhs and in some areas there has. >> but in many areas there's not enough being spent. and at the election we said in community health services , gps, nhs health services, gps, nhs dentists, community pharmacists, we said they've been underfunded. they don't have
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enough staff that was our argument and that's our argument now . and, you know, if you don't now. and, you know, if you don't get more gps, if you don't get more nhs dentists, if you don't open those community pharmacists which are on the front line for many people's healthcare, people will end up going to hospital. that part of the problem has been so many people have been going to hospital because we haven't got the primary care, a strong as it needs to be. >> and today is the duke of sussex's 40th birthday, the youngest son of the king will celebrate the start of his 40s at his californian home with his wife meghan, and their children archie and lilibet. the prince has said he was anxious to turn 30, but that he's excited about 40. and he says his mission is now doing good in the world. earlier this morning, the x account for the royal family wished harry a happy birthday in their first public message for their first public message for the prince since 2021. today is the prince since 2021. today is the 84th anniversary of the battle of britain, a military campaign that was seen as a turning point of world war ii.
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the british royal air force fought the german luftwaffe in the skies over the uk, with the brits claiming a victory that is now commemorated each year on the 15th of september. a commemoration service took place earlier today to mark the anniversary , with both the prime anniversary, with both the prime minister and the former prime minister and the former prime minister rishi sunak, both in attendance . and finally, the attendance. and finally, the crew of the first ever private space walk have returned to earth today. let's take a look at the moment that the spacex dragon touched down. >> and there you can see. east park . as you can see on your park. as you can see on your screen, and by the cheers behind us, the polaris dawn crew has successfully splashed down. >> and those are the latest gb news headlines for now. i'm tatiana sanchez. more from me in half an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news
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alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . slash alerts. >> it's just coming slash alerts. >> it'sjust coming up slash alerts. >> it's just coming up to seven minutes after 4:00. welcome this is gb news. we're live on tv, onune is gb news. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua . happy birthday harry. nana akua. happy birthday harry. prince harry turns 40 today. so what kind of a decade has it been for him? ten years ago, harry was still a bachelor, enjoying his life on the london nightclub scene, fresh out of the army on his 30th birthday, william threw a party for him at their father's house to celebrate the occasion. he seemed like a very happy man. he was loved by the british public. he was the sweetheart of the monarchy. everybody adored him. he was that popular that even dressing up as a nazi was forgiven. but in those ten years, life has changed significantly for harry. enter meghan markle . harry met meghan meghan markle. harry met meghan when she was when he was 32 and
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she was 35. now the story goes that they were on a blind date. apparently they were set up by a mutual friend who wishes to remain anonymous . yeah, so would remain anonymous. yeah, so would i. don't blame them. but if reports are to be believed, according to numerous sources, the couple. harry and meghan were a nightmare. behind the scenes. things turned sour. you know the rest. as a search for privacy on oprah with an accusation of racism that was later denied . netflix, spotify, later denied. netflix, spotify, spare and the paperback is out soon. with all the mean stuff still in it and faux royal tours, much of which made money on the back of berating the royal family or using his status as a prince. during that time, prince philip died, then the queen two years later. she never got to hear the denial of the racism accusation. her final years must have been miserable with all the negativity that overshadowed the family. we had the coronation of charles and now cancer diagnosis. the coronation of charles and now cancer diagnosis . the now cancer diagnosis. the british public in the main turned on the couple. harry has
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also and is still embroiled in a legal battle over his taxpayer funded security when he travels to the uk, which he deems as too dangerous , and also the reason dangerous, and also the reason he won't bring his wife and children to . although he's children to. although he's travelled to nigeria and colombia , arguably two of the colombia, arguably two of the most dangerous countries in the world, and managed to sneak into the uk undetected to attend a funeral, his children still have yet to meet all their grandparents or spend time and meet their nieces and nephews. no surprises that after all of that, there's little contact with william and catherine and other members of the royal family are now very weary of the pair . now, family are now very weary of the pair. now, i'm not suggesting for a moment that meghan can be blamed for harry's fall from grace. i hate it when people do that. blame the woman . harry's a that. blame the woman. harry's a grown man and responsible for his own behaviour, but i'm merely pointing out that things took a real slide shortly after she arrived on the scene last year on his 39th birthday, harry was ignored by the royal household. but this year, in an
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unexpected public message, the royal family's social media account said wishing the duke of sussex a very happy 40th birthday today. well, harry is apparently spending today his birthday with his family , then birthday with his family, then going off into the mountains to reflect. look i sincerely hope he does reflect on all of this and i hope that when he returns, he returns a wiser man and lets go of his inner angry child . go of his inner angry child. many happy returns. harry. happy birthday . before we get stuck birthday. before we get stuck into the debate, here's what else is coming up today for the great british debate this hour. i'm asking as prince, the prime minister, sir keir starmer, is reportedly looking to send migrants to albania . i'm asking, migrants to albania. i'm asking, are labour the party of hypocrisy and also be asking, as elderly people are increasingly giving up and getting a gp appointment as they struggle to beat the 8 am. scramble? is britain failing our pensioners? thatis britain failing our pensioners? that is coming up in the next
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hour as ever, send me your thoughts, post your comments gbnews.com/yoursay . well, i'm gbnews.com/yoursay. well, i'm joined now by the editor at large of the mail on sunday, charlotte griffiths. charlotte, you wrote a great piece in the mail. talk me through the 4040 things that happened with regard to prince harry. >> well, i wrote a list of 40 people harry has to make up with on his 40th birthday if he's to build bridges with the uk. and i think that there's a little bit of desire in him to build bndgesin of desire in him to build bridges in the uk and not necessarily come back here to work, but to feel that when he's here he can connect with some of those 40 people. >> i mean, honestly, it got to the point at one stage where there were only six people really, he was speaking to in the uk and i think he's recognising that that era has to change. >> he can't just never come here and he can't come here and be ignored by his family and friends, or feel that he has to avoid them. >> the situation is untenable.
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>> the situation is untenable. >> so i just think now he's starting to build bridges and that's actually what i'm hearing, is that he is starting to build bridges, and he's going on a big birthday holiday with some of his lad friends. i think some of his lad friends. i think some of his lad friends. i think some of which are from the uk. and i think we're seeing the beginning of the end of this unbelievable acrimony between him and his old life. >> well, you'd hope so. wouldn't you? but then charlotte, he's got his book coming out the paperback version of spare. that would surely be one of the things that maybe he could get rid of some of the mean stuff, like the bald patch on his about his brother and, you know, the perhaps we don't want to hear about the frostbitten. the other bits. do you mean there or camilla is dangerous and stuff like that. if you really want to build bridges, whilst words are nice , actions would be better. nice, actions would be better. >> i think the royal family would love it if he just cancelled the paperback edition, but i just don't think that's possible. >> i think he's actually contractually obligated to bring it out, but it's only a tiny concession . but the publishers concession. but the publishers were very much expecting him to write another chapter, as often people do when they bring out a
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paperback version and update. so since he wrote spare, you know, you would expect him to write another 20 things that have gone wrong that he hates about his old life. but he didn't. he decided not to do an updated chapter or an intro or anything like that for the paperback edition, and this has been seen as a real concession and a real sort of admission that carrying on like that isn't helpful for him or for the royal family. >> well, there was news also of meghan markle. apparently she regrets the way they left the uk. that was in grazia, do you believe there's any truth to that? do you think that's all part of the rebuilding of the relationship? >> i think there is. >> i think there is. >> i think how could anyone he'd had to have a heart of stone not to regret how it went down. i mean, i'm not saying they're accepting any blame for how it went down, but it went it just it was a disaster. they're leaving, you know, their final event together as members of the royal family was unbelievably awkward to watch because william and catherine just completely ignored them at a church service. and, you know, it was a very painful final day. she she cried on that final day of being
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a working member of the royal family. so i imagine it's probably true. there is some regret, and i actually think that meghan will never really come here again. i just don't think that will happen. but i think that will happen. but i think i think harry will. i think i think harry will. i think he'll spend a little bit more time here. i don't think he'll move from california or anything like that, but he'll i think he regrets it. and i think he wants to repair a bit of the damage. if he can. >> well, you know, charlotte, a great pleasure as ever to talk to you. i'll believe it when i see it, you know, and also , i see it, you know, and also, i think meghan should perhaps go and maybe see her dad. that would be good. and that would probably work, you know, work miracles for her pr. charlotte. christine, it's really good to talk to you. she is the editor of large on the mail on sunday. you need to check out her piece that she wrote in it today. but now sir keir starmer is in hot water for allegedly breaking parliamentary rules . yes, the parliamentary rules. yes, the prime minister faces a possible probe over not declaring clothing gifted to him and his wife, victoria . prominent labour wife, victoria. prominent labour donor lord alli reportedly covered the cost of a personal shopper , clothes and alterations shopper, clothes and alterations for lady starmer before and after the election. well,
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joining me now is former labour minister ivor kaplan. ivor, this is not a good look. is it? not a good look at all, especially as they are literally they took their their election victory on their their election victory on the on a stool of moral high ground in this. >> hello nana. >> hello nana. >> look, last tuesday i understand that, you know, keir was was told by various people in number 10 that they had to do more to get all the information right for the authorities in the house of commons. and as i understand it, he's now made, numerous , discussions with the numerous, discussions with the authority in the house of commons to make sure everything is right and proper and given the, the, the way that the last 6 or 8 weeks have been for him as prime minister. >> including all those riots and everything else that he had to do, i think it's reasonable to expect that there could have been a delay. >> and i'm sure that when we
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hear more from the house of commons authorities, it will be clear that there there there was something that he should have done, obviously, about the, information that waheed ali had helped , keir get to in terms of helped, keir get to in terms of the, the what they needed in order to be the prime minister and, and his wife . and that and, and his wife. and that means that they are on as we saw, you know, recently, you know, with the president of the united states. >> et cetera. et cetera, et cetera . cetera. >> so i think there is always information like this where people try and make something out of it. and i saw that on one occasion earlier, that one was a, a former tory mp. well fair enough, he's entitled to say what he likes, but it doesn't mean that that's going to be the ultimate situation that occurs. the important thing with these , the important thing with these, the authorities just just to finish this nana the important
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thing with these authorities. >> i've been through this myself in previous times is once they get the things sorted out, that's what they're trying to do, is to make sure that there is a proper resolution and that everyone knows what they're trying to achieve in that authority . authority. >> i'm sorry, ivor, but there seems to be this desperate rush to kind of explain away any malpractice, as it were, because this is what this looks like we don't have. that's just, in my view , people are trying to just view, people are trying to just explain away. sorry, let me finish. i did listen to what you had to say, so i'll just come in on that. it's just. had to say, so i'll just come in on that. it'sjust. it just seems that everyone's trying to make an excuse for this. he knows full well that he shouldn't be accepting donations and things like that , because and things like that, because they berated the tory party about it and about this. and the tory party was supposed to be the party of sleaze. and now there we are seeing similar behaviour . behaviour. >> he was he was dealing with clothes in particular for his, his wife who then needs what's happened here. >> it hawh0|ed what's happened here. >> it hawho then needs his wife who then needs
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different clothes. >> obviously to go and be, you different clothes. >> obviously to go and be, you know , the, the wife of the prime know , the, the wife of the prime know, the, the wife of the prime minister. so there is an issue know, the, the wife of the prime minister. so there is an issue there and i'm not quite sure there and i'm not quite sure what the issue is that, that you what the issue is that, that you seem to be or not. you seem to be or not. you personally nana seem to be personally nana seem to be getting very excited about in gb getting very excited about in gb news well, at least two. >> well, let me just tell you least two. news well, at least two. >> well, let me just tell you the issue. he may have broken the issue. he may have broken parliamentary rules in failing parliamentary rules in failing to declare the clothes bought to declare the clothes bought for his wife by the labour for his wife by the labour donon for his wife by the labour donor. so? so that's that's what donon for his wife by the labour donor. so? so that's that's what people are saying because he did people are saying because he did he did literally stand on that he did literally stand on that step and say that he would not step and say that he would not be sleazy. he will. you know, be sleazy. he will. you know, he's not going to be like the he's not going to be like the tories. and you know, what was tories. and you know, what was what were the words that they what were the words that they used? i'm trying to think of used? i'm trying to think of some of the words that they used some of the words that they used to describe how he would be. and to describe how he would be. and this is not what we're seeing, this is not what we're seeing, but let me say this nana what but let me say this happens here is that the house authorities come to someone and say, we haven't heard from you about x, y, and z, and that's
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this is not what we're seeing, but panele say this this is not what we're seeing, but panel will! this this is not what we're seeing, but panel will be is this is not what we're seeing, but panel will be back. i'm nana my panel will be back. i'm nana akua. this is gb news. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. next. it's time for the great british debate this hour. and i'm asking, is labour the party of hypocrisy? and this is, as prime minister, sir keir starmer could face an investigation for not declaring gifts given to his wife from a party donor , amid rumours of party donor, amid rumours of plans deport migrants to albania. i remember what they thought about rwanda. this is gb
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good afternoon. it's just coming up to 22 minutes after 4:00. this is gb news live on tv, onune 4:00. this is gb news live on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua now. joining me, my panel broadcaster and journalist danny kelly and also gb news political correspondent nigel nelson. i made it up. are you political? you're not, are you? >> senior political commentator . >> senior political commentator. >> senior political commentator. >> oh, thank you very much for that. well, that's good. well,
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it's that. well, that's good. well, wsfime that. well, that's good. well, it's time for the great british debate. i'm asking is labour the party of hypocrisy? the prime minister is facing an investigation over an alleged breach of parliamentary rules for failing to disclose that labour peer lord ali paid for a personal shopper and designed clothes for his wife . victoria clothes for his wife. victoria also reports today claim that the prime minister is considering processing migrants in albania to replace rwanda ahead of the talks with italian prime minister giorgia meloni. despite just only weeks ago calling the rwanda scheme a gimmick scheme was dead and buned gimmick scheme was dead and buried before it started. >> it's never been a deterrent and i am not prepared to continue with gimmicks that do not act as a deterrent . not act as a deterrent. >> so for the great british debate, this i'm asking is labour the party of hypocrisy? well, let's see what nigel and also danny kelly think of that. nigel nelson, let's start with the clothes, shall we? david lammy, who's been trying to explain things away as if nothing to see here. but had this been the tory party, you
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know what they did to the tory party? and he called the decay of the and decline of the tories and all this stuff that he went on about. and yet there we are. yeah. >> i mean, effectively the two parties are just swapped roles. so labour is saying that now labouris. so labour is saying that now labour is . labour is defending labour is. labour is defending itself against the tory attacks. and it was it was the reverse when the tories were in government on this particular issue, i do believe it was an oversight on behalf of keir starmer about not declaring it. the rules are incredibly complicated and it gets very difficult to know what you're meant to say and what you're not meant to say and what you're not meant to say and what you're not meant to say. however accepting clothes for your wife is a bad look, and i think that the that you have to a lot of common sense about how you accept gifts and hospitality , hospitality and hospitality, hospitality from other people. so hospitality is fine. you can't police every canopy he has at a reception or glass of wine. when it comes to gifts, i think it's a whole different ball game. as a whole different ball game. as
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a journalist, i'm happy to accept, say, a lunch from somebody. >> okay , did you hear that, folks? >> yes. if anyone wants to take me for lunch. yeah, but i'm not. i would, i would never accept an expensive gift. i think that that was a stage too far. it's just the common sense approach to what's okay and what's not okay. so in this case, football tickets, fine , not sure about tickets, fine, not sure about glasses and certainly not expensive clothes for his wife. >> i think the problem here is that he didn't declare it, so he they accepted him. and then there's nothing wrong . there's nothing wrong. >> yes. i mean, it was just a declaration is the problem. >> but, but but you also said it's complicated. i don't think it's complicated. i don't think it's complicated. i think it's quite simple. this is a person who donates money to your party. so if he's buying you lots of gifts and other things, it feels like gifts in kind. and if you haven't declared it, that looks pretty dodgy. >> danny, i think if anyone in the labour party needed a couple of hundred quid from lord darzi, it's david lammy to get some new shoes, the black training shoes. he went over to america in what i thought was a disgrace. i
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think nigel's right. i think it's a terrible look. it doesn't matter. it'sjust it's a terrible look. it doesn't matter. it's just an awful look. he's taken 300 nicker off nearly a million pensioners this winter, and i'm sure that his glasses were more than 300 nicker. i'm sure that his wife's outfit were more than £300. i just think it looks terrible whether he's followed the protocol to the letter or whether he hasn't. >> he hasn't. >> he hasn't. >> it's awful. >> it's awful. >> let's listen to david lammy trying to defend him earlier today. >> in our country, there isn't a budget for the prime minister's clothes or his wife's. i've just come back from america where there is a substantial budget to ensure that the us president and the first lady, their appearance can never be challenged . that is can never be challenged. that is not the case in our country. >> oh , right. so 93 grand and >> oh, right. so 93 grand and all the benefits isn't enough to buy your own clothes. really? i mean, whilst taking money from pensioners and those with the broadest shoulders should carry the heaviest burden. that's what they've said. but yet there they are. >> that excuse just doesn't hold
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any water. and also gb news played an earlier clip where mr lammy was saying that lord alli is self—made. so what? what's that got to do with the fact that got to do with the fact that a multi—millionaire is throwing cash at the prime minister's wardrobe, his wife's wardrobe, and that the prime minister's i furniture and the prime minister's decent suits? i'm not going to say savile row. i'm not going to say savile row. i don't know where he gets them made, but if they are tailored suits, they're not off the peg at marks and spencer's and you can look smart in a £250 marks and spencer's suit. it doesn't have to be 2500 pounds. well they've got a lot of money and they've got a lot of money and they get paid well. >> he's minted subsidised bars. he's already a millionaire. subsidised bars, subsidised restaurants. what more do they want? >> well, i mean, i tend to agree with both of you on this one. i just don't think gifts are okay provided. but but i do think things like football tickets that people didn't didn't like him actually taking. i think that's perfectly reasonable. there's nothing. >> why can't he pay ? look, he's >> why can't he pay? look, he's they're putting out policies. he said it's going to be it's going to get worse until they get better and blah, blah, blah, blah. he's taxing everybody to
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the hilt. they are swiping the winter fuel allowance from pensioners who desperately need it , some who don't, who give it it, some who don't, who give it to charity anyway. but the majority of pensioners, a lot of them probably do need it. he's taking that off them. in the meantime, he's not even spending his own money and whilst he's not spending it, it's also not being declared that he's accepting these things for his wife. it'sjust accepting these things for his wife. it's just terrible. >> it will be it will be declared. but it wasn't declared on time and that's my point about why the rules are a bit complicated and why i think this is probably an oversight. certainly there are people around keir starmer who are not happy about the things he's taken from lord alex. exactly. and as we see as we seem to all agree here, it is a bad look. however, you cut it, it's a bad look to be taking expensive presents from anybody. well, you know, and what about rwanda? >> they scrapped rwanda and now they're looking at albania. they're asking giorgia meloni about her plans. they're asking giorgia meloni about her plans . their plans about her plans. their plans using albania. yep. he called it a gimmick. >> well, no, it's a completely different thing. it's not quite. >> it's very similar. it is
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slightly a slight. there's a slightly a slight. there's a slight variance, but it's still a third party processing centre. >> it is a third party process. but the difference was rwanda . but the difference was rwanda. you would send people there and they never come back. the way that italy does it with albania is they send people to albania for processing. if they are granted asylum during that process, the same thing that would happen here they go back to italy. so that's the big difference. but he called it gimmick. >> so the concept when somebody calls something a gimmick, it means the concept of that thing, not not the entire detail, but the concept, the concept of sending somebody to rwanda is a key thing. >> the gimmick part of rwanda. rwanda was the idea it would become a deterrent . that's what become a deterrent. that's what he called a gimmick. and it was a very expensive gimmick. well, it's costing up to £10 billion. >> it's worked quite well for italy, though, because they were having hundreds of thousands, but it's come down to about 40,000. that's right . but it has 40,000. that's right. but it has worked. it's not a gimmick. >> yes, but that isn't a gimmick because it's different. it is a different thing. >> it's the concept of it. they're sending them somewhere else is the deterrent. >> the thing is, nigel, he had no authority on whether it was going to work or not. i think a
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lot of people would have a lot more respect for, for sir keir starmer if he hadn't have just scrapped rwanda on day one, he said it's never going to work. it's not a deterrent, it's a gimmick. how the hell does he know? because it was unprecedented. it was. >> and the whole thing was, yeah, but that's my point. >> when something is unprecedented, how can you say it's not going to work? >> what was unprecedented about it was that the permanent secretary of the home office wouldn't sign it off as value for money because there was no evidence this would work. >> it's unprecedented. >> it's unprecedented. >> and. well, exactly. you'll never have it. but if you start doing public policy based on. oh, that seems like a nice idea. let's go and spend 700 million to go and do it. it let's go and spend 700 million to go and do it . it doesn't work. >> all right, well, we'll keep this discussion going. danny kelly, nigel nelson, thank you very much, sir. you're with me. good afternoon. this is gb news. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua coming up in the next great british debate. this hour. i'm asking as they struggle to beat the 8 am. scramble for an appointment. i'm asking , is appointment. i'm asking, is britain failing our pensioners?
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but first, let's get your latest news headlines with tatiana sanchez. >> nana, thank you and good afternoon. the top stories this houn afternoon. the top stories this hour. home office figures show 801 illegal migrants crossed the engush 801 illegal migrants crossed the english channel in 14 small boats yesterday . that says eight boats yesterday. that says eight migrants died overnight whilst trying to cross the channel. 53 migrants were on board a boat which got into difficulty off the coast of northern france. around 51 survivors were rescued and six were taken to hospital, including a ten month old baby suffering from hypothermia. this news comes less than two weeks after a separate incident where 12 migrants died after a boat sank off the french coastline . sank off the french coastline. the foreign secretary has defended the prime minister following allegations that sir keir starmer has broken parliamentary rules by failing to declare donations of clothing for his wife, the sunday times reported the gifts came from
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labour donor lord alli and covered the cost of a personal shopper, clothes and alterations for the prime minister's wife dunng for the prime minister's wife during the election campaign . during the election campaign. >> this is not a breach of transparency rules, it's a prime minister that's acting positively to make sure that everything is above board. and this money comes from a long standing over two decades, lord alli has been in the house of lords. he has been a big supporter of the labour party. he's a self—made man, and i think there is nothing to see here, really. >> and today is the duke of sussex's 40th birthday. the youngest son of the king will celebrate the start of his 40s at his californian home with his wife meghan, and their children, archie and lilibet. the prince has said he was anxious to turn 30, but he's excited about 40 and he says his mission is now doing good in the world. earlier this morning, the x account for the royal family wished harry a happy birthday in their first
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pubuc happy birthday in their first public message for the prince since 2021. and those are the latest gb news headlines. for now, i'm tatiana sanchez. i'll be back in half an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com forward
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>> welcome back. 36 minutes after 4:00. if you've just tuned in, where have you been? you've missed half the show, but at least you're here now. i'm nana akua. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. it's time now for the great british debate this hour. and i'm asking, is britain failing its pensioners? this is after weeks of backlash over cuts to winter fuel payments. it's now been revealed that elderly citizens are giving up getting help from gp's after struggling to get through to surgeries on the phone. i mean,
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it's just you couldn't make this up . so for the great british up. so for the great british debate, that's all i'm asking. is britain failing? its pensioners? right. well, joining me now to discuss. journalist and broadcaster danny kelly and also gb news senior commentator nigel nelson. have i got it right now. >> you missed the political in the middle. are going to danny first. >> i think there's a strong a strong argument to say that it's failing nearly a million of its poorest pensioners . i think poorest pensioners. i think there's an argument to say that they're making people jump through hoops and having to go through hoops and having to go through very many pointed questions about whether they're actually eligible or not for the winter fuel support. and i've heard some horror stories on gb news and also on radio stations as i drive up and down the country of people who are just a couple of quid over the threshold and let's not forget how important a couple of quid is to a lot of people , because is to a lot of people, because the older you get, the more conscious you are of the money you have in the bank. >> we can't go out and work. >> we can't go out and work. >> we're all very fit and healthy and we're earning good dough. but when you're when
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you're a pensioner, you're not. you may have a couple of bob coming in from a private pension, but then you're also worried about what the future holds. and this heating and eating . it's a cliche, but eating. it's a cliche, but unfortunately it's one of life's gritty realities. yeah. >> nigel nelson well, i mean, i agree with danny there. i mean, i think we've said before i'd have liked to have seen the winter fuel allowance rolled into the state pension so it could have been taxed and richer pensioners would have then given a big chunk of it back. so rachel reeves could still save money. i think the issue , the money. i think the issue, the issue really is that you need to go an awful lot further than tinkering around with things like winter fuel allowance that, everything is designed for a bygone age when people lived to an average age of 69, and now we're living 20 years older. so that gives a huge extra cost on the on the state. and also means you've got to decide how you're actually going to live . almost actually going to live. almost a third of your life in retirement. but yet we've got a system whereby, 60 year olds get free prescriptions. why why
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shouldn't it be 66 on retirement age ? they get free or age? they get free or concessionary travel in many areas. same thing at 60. there areas. same thing at 60. there are 1 in 3 men and 1 in 4 women over the age of 66 who are still doing some work. we're all healthier. so the result is that you can actually go on for longer, but they don't pay national insurance . so there is national insurance. so there is there's a question over whether we should do things in a different way. the worst of the lot is that 80, you get an extra £25, 20 5pa week, which if you save up for a month, will not even buy you a first class stamp. now that still costs £40,000,040 million a year, but it's a derisory sum. it's a ridiculous sum that no one can do anything with £0.45 but but, but but it all adds up when you start removing winter fuel. >> then you take the £0.25 away, then you take away the bus pass, then you take away the bus pass, then you take away the i'm not saying take it away discount.
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>> i'm not saying take it away, but i'm just saying that these little things that you're saying that it's a derisory sum, they could probably take that £0.25 off and they'd save 40 million or increase it or uprate it. >> well, that's what i'm saying. so. but what we're seeing is a creep of sort of like a little piranha biting away at all the little things. and they're saying , oh, that's not very saying, oh, that's not very much. that's not very much. but when you add them up, they are lot. >> yeah. the issue i'm making is that the a lot of people have private pensions on top of their state pensions. they don't need things like winter fuel allowance. they use it for holidays for buying crates of wine or whatever. all i'm arguing is to try and bring all those things into the tax system. so those people give some of the money back. >> well, no, i hear you, but you could argue that mps don't need their pay rise. they should put that back in the tax system. they're on £93,000 a year. it's ipso who ipso who give him their, their pay rise. and some of them say we don't need it , of them say we don't need it, but we can't change it. because you could argue, actually that rachel reeves should spend a week with a pensioner who is just over that bit over that threshold and doesn't get a
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chance to get that money. i think it's absolutely absurd. >> the old fleet street coming out of nigel, their holidays and crates of wine. that's that's where his dough goes. >> reduce the civil service. the civil service is overbloated. they would save billions. >> but nana. also, i think there was an announcement that pensioners are going to get a hike next year of 400 odd quid. >> £420? >> £420? >> okay. next year. but you could argue you could argue with keir starmer said okay keir starmer, why are you giving those pensioners who don't need the £300 winter fuel allowance . the £300 winter fuel allowance. why are you stopping there yet. you're giving them another £420, the pension, if they don't need it, they don't. if they don't need the 300, they won't need the 420 lakh. >> yes. the pension going up in line with. correct. >> but what we're trying to do is save, i think with the pensioners, £1.2 billion or something, 1.1 £1.4 billion. so if you apply that same logic, that rationale at wealthy pensioners who don't need this income , then why stop at those income, then why stop at those 1 million people who aren't going to get the 300? >> they're literally looking they're taking money from the wrong places. it's all it's all very petty vat on private schools, you know, it's all very
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petty. and actually a lot of it is counterproductive and doesn't really achieve the results they're expecting. and also a lot of the things that they're attacking rely on other variables. so in order to make this money, they need to make sure , say for example, vat on sure, say for example, vat on schools. they need to make sure that this many people stay in schools to achieve this amount of money, but then it's not considered the after effect of the policy. so a lot of the consequences aren't being taken into account. i don't know why they don't fleece the civil service. that's where i'd be going. i'd be reducing the civil service. why are they attacking pensioners? that's what i'm saying. well i mean, she the rachel reeves needed 1.44 billion instantly. >> and there's no way of getting it any other way. i cannot think of another way you could raise it. >> what? did she need it instantly. >> well, that's tomorrow. now, thatis >> well, that's tomorrow. now, that is exactly the question i wish rachel reeves would answer . wish rachel reeves would answer. she should answer. she's made the point that she needed this money now so she couldn't put it off till next year . that would off till next year. that would have been a way of doing it through the tax system . i do through the tax system. i do think she's got to explain in some detail why it was necessary now, and equally also explain
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this 22 billion black hole which the treasury are refusing to give the full details of it's time they did. well, it's not a good look. >> the net zero is costing us how many billion. >> it's not a good look at all with miliband with. we're ploughing 8 or £10 billion about net zero international commitments. >> well, we're talking about that because it looks like there may be backtracking on their 2030 targets as well. but of course this show is nothing without you and your views as we welcome our great british voice onto the show, their opportunity to be on the show and tell us what they think about the topics we're discussing. let's go to frances in salisbury. frances. welcome, frances. what do you think about this? i mean, are we are we giving our pensions a very bad and raw deal here? very >> i think it's spiteful to be honest. >> when you look at, the reductions or the taking away of winter fuel allowance, you've got ed miliband rushing ahead, pushing up prices for
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electricity , you know , i don't electricity, you know, i don't think this labour government understands basic economics, nor doesit understands basic economics, nor does it understand cash flow , does it understand cash flow, because it's no good saying, oh, well, you'll get an rpi or whatever increase in april when you've got to pay a bill now. >> why did you lie? >> why did you lie? >> well, very briefly then. did you vote for them. yes. or no? no. well let's bring in fergus then. from greenwich . fergus. then. from greenwich. fergus. he's my great british voice. well, fergus, do you think they're being a bit. i mean, francis has said that they're kind of being a bit vindictive. they've been a bit spiteful, aren't they? >> well, very. >> well, very. >> i'm 74. >> i'm 74. >> i've had cancer. i've lost over three stone of weight. my diabetes has gone away. but i really feel the cold now. i really feel the cold now. i really feel the cold now. i really feel it. so i have to wrap myself in a duvet all the time . and then when i see time. and then when i see starmer's wife has got £70,000 worth of clothes, i think, hang
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on, i haven't had £70,000 worth of anything . i'm actually of anything. i'm actually suffering. i have to wrap myself in a duvet, my electricity bills gone up and it's going to go up higher because they're going to take away my freedom pass as well, so i won't be able to get to the big shops. i walk with a trolley. i've got, disabled badgein trolley. i've got, disabled badge in my car because i can hardly drive now . so what do hardly drive now. so what do i do with this government? the old ones were bad enough, but these are worse. that's all i can say. >> well , did are worse. that's all i can say. >> well, did you vote for them, fergus? >> no. of course not. >> oh, god. what do we do about this? >> i voted for martin daubney party. put it that way. >> oh, i see, i hear you. i hear you. what would you like to hear? sir keir starmer say with regard to that, francis? what? what would make it better for you? what does sir keir starmer and his party, what do they need to say ? to say? >> he's got to get a bit more joined up to be honest, at the moment they seem to be rolling out policies here. there
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everywhere, just to look as if they're being impressive when they're being impressive when they're not being impressive because nothing's joined up. >> they are to my view, economically ruining this country, this country . we're country, this country. we're seeing, i think an economic disaster coming because they call growth , growth, growth. and call growth, growth, growth. and yet every single policy is anti—growth. >> all right. well listen, the seine attention was really good to hear your your thoughts, francis and fergus, thank you very much for joining francis and fergus, thank you very much forjoining me. this is my great british voice is right at 46 minutes after 4:00 here with me, i'm nana akua. this is gb news. we're live on tv on nine, on digital radio. coming up in the next hour for my great british debate, i'm asking is the dream net zero by 2030 dead in the water. stay tuned
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good afternoon . it's just coming good afternoon. it's just coming up to 51 minutes after 4:00. welcome to gb news. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua now. lots of people have been in touch on gbnews.com/yoursay. wendy says nana the green institute in london paid rachel reeves and ed miliband £90,000 each to push the net zero agenda. there is so much sleaze within the labour party, they are hypocrites. now i don't have any evidence of that, so i don't know whether that's true, but that's what wendy is saying. i wonder, wendy, where did you see that? i'm going to do some research on it. hatter says. i have to make a speech tomorrow at my local camera club. can starmer's mate help with the wife's cocktail dress ? hahahahahahahahaha nigel dress? hahahahahahahahaha nigel nelson. let's all roll our eyes, senior. what? i don't understand what that means. i found something rude. i probably have. and brian says we need and should have proof of this. £22 billion black hole for the government refused to show the
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evidence. they then removed the winter fuel allowance without doing an impact assessment. these things should be published now. or are the government lying? well, it's a very good question, but what do you think? gbnews.com/yoursay keep them coming. but should we cut the civil service jobs as well? because look, they're they're slashing everything. what about that conservative leadership race frontrunner? robert jenrick thinks so. he told the telegraph that he wants the service back at 2015 staffing levels in to order achieve a small state that works, and that's a whopping 120,000 taxpayer funded jobs. joining me now gb news senior political commentator nigel nelson, also a broadcaster and journalist danny kelly and nigel nelson i'll come to you. is it time that we cut some civil service jobs? i was saying it earlier. it's bloated, it's expensive, it's robert jenrick. right? >> well, it's just that it's such a knee jerk reaction every time you want to save money and talk about small state, you say, oh, let's let's slash the civil service and the certainly there
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may be jobs that can go. you do it by natural wastage, but the but the, the issue here is , is, but the, the issue here is, is, is obviously how much money it would save. all right. >> well let's find out because joining me now former mep robert and robert jenrick supporter david campbell—bannerman david welcome to the program. thank you for joining welcome to the program. thank you forjoining us. is robert jenrick onto something here. there's a lot of money a lot of people do. we really need them? >> well, i think it's a very sensible move forward. >> i mean, the reality is under cameron , we had a civil service cameron, we had a civil service of just under 400,000 392 and all. he's saying is it's 513,000. now we need to get back to that level. we've been we've got past brexit. we've got past covid. let's get back to that lower level. >> well yeah . how much does the >> well yeah. how much does the civil service cost us though at this. it must be billions. rachel reeves could save a fortune if she sort of targeted her attack. there >> yeah. i mean, i think the
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problem you've got is a kind of ratchet effect, as i call it, is that, you know, when the numbers go up, the public service unions, the public sector unions under labour, resist to cut , we under labour, resist to cut, we should be losing about 120,000. you know, just just in order to get back to where we were before and there was no loss of efficiency, there wouldn't be a loss of efficiency as a result. so it's a perfectly reasonable proposal. it isn't actually some sort of extreme right wing proposal. it is actually just a sensible cut, especially at a time when, as you say, there's a lot of pressure on the public sector and on public sector funding. >> yeah. well, listen , david >> yeah. well, listen, david campbell—bannerman, apologies that we have to leave it there because we are running out of time, sadly. but it's really to good talk to you. we'll have to get you on and talk to you for a lot longer next time. but i love your views. keep them coming. gbnews.com forward slash. you'll say it seems that the gb news viewers are way more intelligent than the government. that's how it goes. that's how we roll.
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you're with me. i'm nana akua. this is gb news on the way. you're with me. i'm nana akua. this is gb news on the way . we this is gb news on the way. we have the interview. i'll be speaking to a remarkable man who took himself from poverty and homelessness to a multi—million pound property and a successful music business. that's next. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar, sponsors of weather on gb news. >> hello, good afternoon and welcome to your gb news weather update brought to you by the met office. well, as we head into next week, we have high pressure building, so that means plenty of fine and dry weather around and some fairly warm days on offer too. for the end of the weekend though, we do have this cold front which is slowly edging its way towards the south—east of the country, and that's bringing in some cloud and some outbreaks of rain and drizzle. now, as we head into the evening, there will still be some rain and drizzle towards the south, but it is generally easing and should just be largely cloudy. and that means it's going to be a fairly mild night compared to recent nights
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to the north of this, though, plenty of clear skies and light winds. so we're likely to see some mist and fog develop overnight, particularly in north western parts. and it's going to be fairly chilly too. so in rural areas, likely to see some spots of grass frost. so as i say to start monday morning there should be plenty of fine bright weather around, but there's likely to be some mist and fog in places as well, particularly in those rural spots. so even though there'll be bright sunshine, do take care for the monday morning commute, particularly in northern parts of wales, northwest england, where there could be some quite dense fog in places towards the south. a fairly cloudy start still could be the drips and drabs of rain and drizzle across hilly areas, but any mist and fog and cloud is generally going to be lifting and breaking through the course of the day as that high pressure builds. and that high pressure builds. and that means plenty of fine and dry conditions to start the new working week. perhaps a bit more high cloud in the northwest towards the end of the day, perhaps even seeing some rain and drizzle creeping into the outer hebrides , but otherwise outer hebrides, but otherwise plenty of fine dry weather and
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feeling fairly warm as well, with highs of 22 celsius down in the southeast into the evening. feeling quite chilly as soon as the sun goes down. likely to see some frost once again and some mist and fog, but still more in the way of cloud feeding into the way of cloud feeding into the northwest. and as we head into the next week, high pressure sticking around. so once again, lots of fine, warm, sunny weather around . sunny weather around. >> looks like things are heating up boxt boilers sponsors of weather
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yours. we'll be debating, discussing and at times we will disagree. but no one will be cancelled. so joining me today, gb news senior political commentator nigel nelson and author, journalist and broadcaster danny kelly. on today's show, we talked about prince harry, who turned 40. so what kind of a decade has it been for him, and would you welcome him back then, as labour backtracks on its electric car commitments? is the dream of net zero by 2050 coming to an end ? zero by 2050 coming to an end? >> divisiveness, their cruelty , >> divisiveness, their cruelty, their robbing and their lies go their robbing and their lies go their stop. the tories stop. vote right now. see you there. >> what are the labour party turning out to be? just as bad. then the boss of the charles gordon trust joins me later. and in clip bait was mrs. thatcher right ? right? >> governments traditionally do make a financial mess. >> they always run out of other people's money. >> it's quite a characteristic of them. >> labour seem intent on taxing
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to the hilt, but was mrs. t on the money? before we get started, let's get your latest news with tatiana sanchez . news with tatiana sanchez. >> nana. thank you and good afternoon. the top story this houn afternoon. the top story this hour. home office figures show 801 illegal migrants crossed the engush 801 illegal migrants crossed the english channel in 14 small boats yesterday. that's a record daily number since labour came into power. and brings the total who have crossed this year to over 23,200. and that's as eight migrants died overnight whilst trying to cross the channel. 53 migrants were on board a boat which got into difficulty off the coast of northern france and around 51 survivors were rescued and six were taken to hospital, including a ten month old baby suffering from hypothermia. the news comes less than two weeks after a separate incident where 12 migrants died after a boat sank off the french coastline . a sank off the french coastline. a murder investigation has been
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launched in east london after a woman was stabbed to death. officers were called in the early hours of this morning to an address in tower hamlets, with a 32 year old woman since being arrested on suspicion of murder. a 37 year old man was also arrested on suspicion of assisting an offender. foreign secretary david lammy has defended the prime minister following allegations that sir keir starmer has broken parliamentary rules by failing to declare donations of clothing for his wife. the sunday times reported the gifts came from labour donor lord alli and covered the cost of a personal shopper , clothes and alterations shopper, clothes and alterations for the prime minister's wife dunng for the prime minister's wife during the election campaign. >> this is not a breach of transparency rules, it's a prime minister that's acting positively to make sure that everything is above board and this money comes from a long standing over two decades. lord alli has been in the house of lords. he has been a big supporter of the labour party.
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he's a self—made man, and i think there is nothing to see here, really. >> there's more trouble for sir keir starmer's government, as it's revealed pensioners could be left £1,000 worse off this winter . this comes on top of winter. this comes on top of suggestions that labour could also axe the single person discount on council tax at next month's budget. the party has thus far refused to rule it out, stating that difficult decisions need to be made in order to fill the so—called £22 billion black hole left by the conservatives sir ed davey says the nhs cannot withstand labour reforms without more funding. the lib dems leader made the comments during the second day of the lib dem party conference in brighton today. earlier this week, sir keir starmer said the nhs will not get any more funding without reforming as he laid out a ten year plan to fix the health service. sir ed davey says he's concerned that the government is talking about reform before investment being spent on the nhs and in some areas there has, but in many areas there's not enough being spent.
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>> and at the election we said in community health services, gps, nhs dentists, community pharmacists, we said they've been underfunded. they don't have enough staff. that was our argument and that's our argument now. and, you know, if you don't get more gps, if you don't get more nhs dentists, if you don't open those community pharmacists which are on the front line for many people's healthcare, people will end up going to hospital . will end up going to hospital. that part of the problem has been so many people have been going to hospital because we haven't got the primary care a strong as it needs to be. >> today is the duke of sussex's 40th birthday. the youngest son of the king will celebrate the start of his 40s at his californian home with his wife meghan, and their children, archie and lilibet. the prince has said he was anxious to turn 30, but he's excited about 40, and he says his mission is now doing good in the world. earlier this morning, the x account for the royal family wished harry a happy birthday in their first pubuc happy birthday in their first public message for the prince
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since 2021. and today is the 84th anniversary of the battle of britain, a military campaign that was seen as a turning point of world war ii. the british royal air force fought the german luftwaffe in the skies over the uk, with the brits claiming a victory that is now commemorated each year on the 15th of september, a commemoration service took place earlier today to mark the anniversary, with both sir keir starmer and former prime minister rishi sunak in attendance. and those are the latest gb news headlines for now. i'm tatiana sanchez. more from me in half an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com. >> forward slash alerts . >> forward slash alerts. >> forward slash alerts. >> thank you tatiana. this is gb news live on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua and for the next hour, me and my panel will be taking on some of the big topics hitting the
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headunes the big topics hitting the headlines right now. this show is all about opinion. it's mine, it's theirs. and of course it's yours. we'll be debating, discussing and at times we will disagree. but no one will be cancelled. so joining me today is gb news senior political commentator nigel nelson and also broadcaster and journalist danny kelly. first of all, birthday wishes are pouring for in prince harry as he turns 40. the prince and princess of wales official social media accounts posted a message to mark the milestone. but is it enough to end harry and william's sibling rift? plus, i'll be joined by an entrepreneur who has gone from rags to riches . charles gordon rags to riches. charles gordon will share his journey to success and offer some insights into the world of business. then, for the great british debate this hour, i'm asking is the dream of net zero by 2050 a deadin the dream of net zero by 2050 a dead in the water? labour are already planning to u—turn on the total ban of new petrol fuelled cars by allowing hybrid vehicles to remain on the market until 2035. as ever , send me until 2035. as ever, send me your thoughts, post your comments gbnews.com/yoursay . so
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comments gbnews.com/yoursay. so top story, of course today prince harry turns 40. it's his 40th birthday. wishes are pounng 40th birthday. wishes are pouring in. the king and prince william's social media accounts , william's social media accounts, posted to the well, wishes to mark the occasion. but is this the olive branch the uk and the prince harry actually needs? royal biographer alexander larman joins me now. alexander, thank you very much for joining me. is this it? is this an olive branch to prince harry? >> good afternoon, nana and no, it's not is the simple answer. i mean, if you look at just how tokenistic it is for both the royal family and the prince and princess of wales, as social media accounts have, it's basically they're not saying anything, are they? i mean, let's not see this as anything other than a pleasantry, a small pubuc other than a pleasantry, a small public gesture being done because they feel that they have to. >> so no, this isn't the beginning of a reconciliation. i mean, harry and his brother are very, very much estranged. and
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apparently harry and the king are completely estranged as well. if we believe today's papers . so as well. if we believe today's papers. so as he's turning 40 in montecito, i think he can be reflecting on the fact that he is as far away from his family, both literally and metaphorically, as it's possible to be really . to be really. >> but for the last two years or so, the royal family didn't post anything on social media for his birthday. so surely there is a slight level of thawing of relations, especially even from us as an outside observer looking in? >> no, i really don't think so. i think that this is just a pleasantry. >> this is just something being done. >> this is just something being done . because otherwise if they done. because otherwise if they didn't do it, they might be criticised for it. i mean, harry is still the king's son. he is still the brother of the future king. i mean, this is a very small gesture. what was interesting about the prince and princess of wales retweet of that message is that usually when a tweet is done from one of them, it's signed with their initials, and this one wasn't. and i think what you can take from that is that this is all very tokenistic. this is lip
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service alone being paid to the idea that it's his birthday. so we have to say something. but no, this is not the beginning of a rapprochement . this no, this is not the beginning of a rapprochement. this is business as usual. >> but harry was recently supposedly quoted as saying that if the king needed him, then he would be back to perform some royal duties if he was needed. >> well, harry can say what he likes, frankly, because at this stage he has been such an embarrassing presence for the royal family. >> he has done so many dreadful things, so many embarrassing and so many ill thought out things over the last 4 or 5 years that we don't want him back. i mean, this is the whole point. it's that he is now in montecito. he is living in his very luxurious bed, and he can lie in it, frankly, because what he's done to the reputation of the royal family is more than anybody since his great great uncle, the duke of windsor, he has absolutely ruined the royal family in all its standing. and you just think to yourself, why do you persist in this facade? why do you persist in this idea that you would come back and do service because it was your
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decision to leave britain. it was your decision to go off and cause embarrassment to the royal family and so now we see that there's going to be a new netflix documentary produced by him and meghan, coming out in december about polo. you just think, can't you just give it a rest? i mean, it's just can't you just go off and enjoy a happy private life without having to bother the rest of us? >> well, he was he was in search of privacy, wasn't he ? which of privacy, wasn't he? which started with an interview with global megastar oprah winfrey. you know, i feel i want i feel like i want to hear that they are perhaps coming together and there's some sort of reunion of some sort . but there's some sort of reunion of some sort. but to be fair, meghan has still to yet even speak to her or see her father. >> well, meghan won't come back to britain because it's not safe for her. >> you see, nigeria is fine. i mean, that's absolutely above board . but the streets of board. but the streets of london? no, no, no, she couldn't possibly do that. so no, i mean, i just feel that we are fed a lot of disinformation from camp sussex and we're fed. i mean,
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i'm still amazed that harry has friends who are willing to go off the record and speak for him because his behaviour is essentially betrayal. it's betrayal of his family. it's betrayal of his family. it's betrayal of his family. it's betrayal of everyone around him as well. so whether you blame him or if you blame his wife, or in my case, if you blame both of them equally, thus apportioning an equal amount of blame and shame. but you just think to yourself how long is this going to go on? the answer is it's probably going to go on as long as they live, because i can't see any rapprochement between him and william being a possibility. i mean, they went to lord fellowes's funeral service quite recently, and didn't say a word to each other, and he just said, well, if you're not going to speak to each other, if you're in the same room, why would you have any contact in any other way, especially at a funeral, as well, where you are reminded of your own mortality? >> so this would probably be a good point and a good time to try and maybe make some sort of amends to people, just in case. do you know what i mean? but it doesn't seem that anything is sacred to them. but he's going to be off in the mountains or something after he's had a
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family get together with his wife and children. that's what we're hearing . we're hearing. >> well, mountains are probably the best place for him, to be honest with you . and, i mean, if honest with you. and, i mean, if he got decided just to get lost in them and become a goatherd. well, i think that the world would be a better place for that to be quite frank. >> well, it's alexander, really to good talk to you. that's royal biographer alexander larman . i love that. he's great, larman. i love that. he's great, isn't he? i love that . well, isn't he? i love that. well, joining me now, gb news senior political commentator nigel nelson, also journalist and broadcaster danny kelly. >> danny kelly, do you know , >> danny kelly, do you know, that was really interesting because he shed a different light on it for me. and he's suggesting that gentlemen suggesting that gentlemen suggesting and understandably, that this . happy 40th birthday, that this. happy 40th birthday, harry. and this announcement is more of a formality because it's a landmark birthday. and if they hadnt a landmark birthday. and if they hadn't have done it, they'd have been conspicuous by its absence. so they had to make some sort of, if you want to use it, an olive branch, if you want to use it, a thawing out process. but maybe it's neither. maybe it is literally a formality of saying happy 40th birthday, because they didn't do it when he was 39 and they didn't do it when he
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was 38. >> that's true. and it may well be that there may be the sort of royal protocols for doing these things. i think that, william and kate didn't actually have to do that retweet because it was good enough for the royal family to have sent the original birthday greetings. to have sent the original birthday greetings . they're part birthday greetings. they're part of the royal family. they could have done it that way . i thought have done it that way. i thought it was significant that william and kate then added their own best wishes to that. i mean, something that alexander was talking about, something that alexander was talking about , that he's talking about, that he's obviously not a great harry fan. no but he was he was talking about what harry's got coming up and things like doing polo. the polo series for netflix, where harry is the executive producer on that. well, he was contracted to do that. i mean , he is to do that. i mean, he is actually making his living. he's fulfilling a deal he made with netflix. whatever you think about it, whether you think he should have done or not. so i don't think he can really be criticised for coming out of the woodwork to go and deal with that. yeah. >> well, listen, lots of you
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have been getting in touch with your views on all the subjects we've been discussing throughout the show. i just want to read some of them because i think, again, you've provided me with some, some great comment and i absolutely. and many of them i agree with. victor says . and agree with. victor says. and this was with regard to civil servants and saving money. he says , easy to save money. simply says, easy to save money. simply cut 100 k civil servants jobs. many of which are not real jobs. the same goes for the local council staff, many occupying non—jobs. just take a look at the job ads and the in the. i can't remember. i think he means the guardian but it's called it something else. it would a genuine it would take a genius to work out what exactly the job entails. you can be sure it pays £60,000 plus per year. a simple way we weed out the dross, order them back to work. those that refuse, sack them. oh, and i do not recall ever reading that thousands of civil servants now working from home had to forfeit their london waiting allowances, which was meant to cover the additional costs of commuting. yeah, i see, i'm with you. there's so many ways they could do it rather than actually , do it rather than actually,
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next. good afternoon. it's just 17 minutes after 5:00. i'm nana akua. this is gb news. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. it's now time for this week's interview. my guest this week's interview. my guest this week's interview. my guest this week is a remarkable man who went from poverty and homelessness to a multi—million pound property and successful music business, to not mention the man behind an award ceremony of which we have a lot to discuss. i'm joined, i'm pleased to say, by entrepreneur and author charles gordon. charles, welcome to the show. >> thank you very much for having me. >> it's good to see you. so tell me a little bit about your story and your journey. okay. >> well, where do i start? so i
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started in business when i was 19 years old, and what i found was coming from certain backgrounds. a lot of things weren't afforded to me as they weren't afforded to me as they were in certain other environments, so working against the odds and doing what we needed to do, it got us to a place in business where by the time i was 21, 22, we'd moved into property development, and we were doing very well, doing very, very well, turning over literally, i think it was a few million a year. wow. about 23, 24, but in fairness, these were things that i was always led to believe were impossible coming from socially, a socially economic deprived background, let's say, so, i mean, one of the, one of the thought processes for me and one of the reasons why we went on to do the awards, was to kind of create more entrepreneurs and try and help people understand what, what can be achieved. and i think in a lot of circumstances, when the odds are stacked against you , it. they say against you, it. they say diamonds are formed in, in high in high pressure. so i think
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there's a lot of people that don't understand what they're capable of. and one of the things that i wanted to do was kind of acknowledge the people that are doing amazing things in our society, and the other aspect was to kind of show other people that it can be done, because i think that was a i think a lot of things that go against us is the fact that we don't believe we can do it. so the mindset was that that's a mindset to me, that we needed to try and change. >> so. so were you born in this country? where were you born? >> and yeah, born in south london. >> you grew up in south london? i grew up in south. what was that like? what was your growing up like, >> do you know what i mean? yeah, there's always challenges, i think. i yeah, there's always challenges, ithink. i mean, it yeah, there's always challenges, i think. i mean, it wasn't we weren't i mean, i wasn't from a background with a silver spoon. let's say. and what i found was because even going into business psychologically, i think in, in certain environments, music is, is an option because you see it, sports is an option because you see it. business wasn't an opfion see it. business wasn't an option because i didn't i couldn't visualise that for myself because it wasn't something that i saw, so it was a it was going against the odds. i think that that made it.
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a it was going against the odds. i think that that made it . and i think that that made it. and that's that in itself, i think was a it was a bit of a, it was a bit of a mind. it was a bit it was for me, i think even when i started in business, it was a very stressful period because subconsciously and psychologically, even i didn't believe i could do it, if that makes sense, of course, and then as i started to achieve it, i was like, well, hold on a minute. i've been lied to. >> so. so you started in business, you went to a normal school in the uk. you started in business, and this was in the property side of things . did you property side of things. did you buy a house or. no. >> what was your the initial starting was, i started in property lettings and management actually, so we bought it literally. i mean, i kind of left home quite early. i was told categorically when i was in school that i was unemployable. so in my mind , subconsciously, i so in my mind, subconsciously, i wasn't going to be able to get a job. so i decided the only opfion job. so i decided the only option that was available to me was to go into business for myself. so then it was a case of what do i go into business doing, and the biggest thing that you could buy and sell effectively was property. i didn't really see myself as a car salesman, and that was the
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next one down on the list , so next one down on the list, so i went in there. i had no idea what i was doing. i opened my office, i negotiated the terms on the lease. it was a small office, and then as i got into it and started to actually rent properties and, and sell properties and, and sell properties and, and sell properties and property management at the time, it was it wasn't as hard as i, i was thought it would be. and then as we started going and i think there's a few simple principles that you need to do, but in business, one of the key things is just dealing with people as you want to be dealt with. and i found that went a very, very long way. and it set the foundations effectively for everything. that then followed after, and yeah, it was more about just kind of finding your feet working out and then because i hadn't done it and hadnt because i hadn't done it and hadn't had any education in that arena, it was a case of trying to work out the best way forward, the best way to understand it. and it was all about for me. i did it from a very practical standpoint of customer service and taking care of your customers, and then as a result, the business literally snowballed in a very short space
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of time. >> so you had a rental sort of property business. you were like a letting agent. yeah, i was 19, 19 when i started it. >> yeah . >> yeah. >> yeah. >> wow. >> wow. >> yeah, it was good fun. >> yeah, it was good fun. >> it was good fun. yeah. so then what happened to that business? do you still have it? what went. >> yep, yep. still in the property game. so over the years, i mean, i went in from i kind of look at business as video games. so i kind of take on different stages and different levels to qualify. so i think initially we started in lettings and management, then we moved into property sales coming out of the recession and then from there we moved into property development. so i started buying properties , started buying properties, converting it into flats and so on and so forth. and then moved on and so forth. and then moved on to new builds and started building them from the ground up, and just literally it was just every just qualifying each stage. and then when i got to the new build and started doing that, then i was bored. so i needed a new game to play. so that's when i ventured into the music industry. >> so in the music industry , >> so in the music industry, talk to me about that, >> so it was mainly about developing acts . so what we did developing acts. so what we did is we take the act, we put the act together. so we'd kind of deal with the styling, the recording and everything else and then license it onto a major
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label, so we dealt with a few acts over the years, and one of the main ones we did was big brothers, and we also dealt with, we created that booty love from big brothers as well. so we had quite a few success stories in the music game, which was which was good fun, but it was a very the property industry is quite an ethical industry where people do what they say they're going to do. the music industry was the wild west. yeah. >> totally different. >> totally different. >> that's a tough one to crack, though. that really is. >> it wasn't a tough one to crack, but what i didn't like was all of the negative aspects of it. there's quite a lot of, underhanded behaviour in the music industry. i think, whereas in property people are kind of a lot more straightforward. so as a, as a waking up every day, what am i comfortable doing? i was a lot more comfortable with property. >> so. so how did you get involved in the charles gordon awards then? because this is what happened. yeah. >> so i think the main issue that i saw was in society, i think across the board, whenever there's anything bad that happens, there's a huge emphasis on it. and what i think happens, especially in socially, socially or economically deprived areas,
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the only way that people are really going to make a success of themselves is, is ultimately by doing bad or being seen to be doing bad, and i think that in itself, to me sits as a core problem. so what i wanted to do with the awards was kind of highlight the good. so it was more about looking at all of the people that are doing amazing things in society and basically putting some recognition on them so that people can aspire to be good as opposed to aspiring to be bad, because i think that's a major part of why people do what they do. and i think if you see things, you can achieve them. and i don't think there's enough i don't think there's enough emphasis on the good that people do, i mean, in sports, you see it on tv music again, you see it, but you don't see it in business. you don't see it in all of the there's so many different environments that that people are doing amazing things at a social level. so even down to taking care of the homeless and things like that. but there's no they don't get any money for it. and my reasoning was if they don't even get any acknowledgement for it, why are they going to carry on? and
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those are the people that really create the kind of core of our society, because it's those , for society, because it's those, for want of a better phrase, do gooders that make society a nicer place, let's say. and, i don't think there's enough i don't think there's enough i don't think there's enough i don't think they get enough for it. so that was one of the main reasons. but then at the same time, i figured an award, purely award ceremony, purely around that wouldn't be as interesting. so then that's when we brought in the celebrity element. so it's kind of i think if to i had describe the awards, it would be kind of mobo slash. pride of britain is kind of where we're at with it. >> i see, i see and it was a very interesting ceremony, which i didn't manage to get to because i work , i work on the because i work, i work on the weekends, i work on the weekend. yes, but you had quite a few different categories on that award ceremony. >> yes, yes, yes we had it was an amazing turnout. we had about 1500 people, i think, on the night, yeah, it was, it was an amazing turnout. we had a lot of categories. we had performances from so solid. we had omar there, we had. oh gosh, i can't remember richard blackwood hosting it . richard blackwood hosting it. richard blackwood hosting. kaz crossley was also on the show . he
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hosting. kaz crossley was also on the show. he was a co—host. i mean, yeah, it was an amazing night. we had a really good time. yeah. and while i'm mentioning that because on the night, i don't know. well, i'm sure you're aware that you received our tv presenter excellence award, but you weren't able to make it. so what i've done is i brought it with me and i have it here. oh, and i'd like to formally present this to you. >> all right. cut my hair a bit at the back. >> and here you go, my darling. >> and here you go, my darling. >> thank you very much. >> thank you very much. >> formally accept your tv presenter excellence award from the charles gordon trust. >> yeah, well , speech. i'd like >> yeah, well, speech. i'd like to dedicate this to myself. i need to cry now as well, because that's what people do. but there were there were quite a lot of people in this category, though, weren't they? it was voted for by the people. you know what you did? >> amazing. if i'm honest . from >> amazing. if i'm honest. from memory, i think it was you exceeding received in excess of 8000 votes. no. yep, yep yep from the public voting for me. yep. and that's sorry. that's one of the major parts actually, the way these awards are
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structured is people are nominated once they're nominated, it goes to a public vote. and whoever wins the pubuc vote. and whoever wins the public vote gets the award. and yeah, i think you won it by a landslide. it wasn't really it wasn't even a small amount . wasn't even a small amount. >> oh my god, thank you so much. >> oh my god, thank you so much. >> no, no, you did amazingly well. and we've also because you weren't there to celebrate with us on the night, we figured we'd, just also also provide you with something to celebrate with. >> oh, wow. >> oh, wow. >> which comes fully equipped with brochures and all sorts. but yeah, it's your own bottle of dom perignon. >> dom perignon? no, i don't think i've ever had one of those. thank you. >> vintage bottle vintage. >> vintage bottle vintage. >> oh my god, i hope i don't drop it on my way out. you know, that's the sort of. that's how i roll. oh, this is stunning . roll. oh, this is stunning. thank you very much, charles. thank you very much, charles. thank you very much, charles. thank you so much for bringing in and coming in and giving me the award. >> and thank you for doing the amazing work that you're doing, because it's important, i think that, you know, it's i think it's important for other people to see what can be achieved and what can be done. and i think the more people that are setting the more people that are setting
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the pace, the more people can follow in their footsteps. and that's what creates the next generation. >> wow. so 8000 loads of people. thank you so much people, for voting for me. i do appreciate that. that's amazing. look at this. look at this. eat your heart out. i'm not one of those people that goes, oh, it was so sad. i'm like, yeah , bring it sad. i'm like, yeah, bring it on. yeah. and if i had lost, i would have gone . there would would have gone. there would have been an angry face. oh no ho. 110. >> no. >> that's allowed, that's allowed a bit of face. >> that's a win. >> that's a win. >> we've got to win. otherwise why play. exactly. >> so. so what's next for you then, charles? >> well we're doing we've got another award ceremony coming up next year. i mean, we're still we're also with the trust . we're also with the trust. another thing that for me was one of the core parts is education. so we're in the process now of setting up what we've called the boss academy, which is the business opportunity superstar. and it's kind of like i think apprentice meets dragon's den. so we're going to be basically taking students , filming them for the students, filming them for the whole year while they're doing the studying. it will be a practical, practical education on business because our objective is to create the next
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generation of entrepreneurs. so we don't just want to teach them, we want to give them a practical out at the end. so at the end of the course, we're working in association with pentecostal credit bank. amazing, and they'll be funding the business ideas of the individuals. and then the award ceremony we're doing in july next year. so we've opened nominations for that now as well, so yeah, we've got we've got a lot doing we've got a lot doing. the plan is to just keep it busy and keep it moving. >> well, thank you very much , >> well, thank you very much, charles. it's so good of you to come in. and thank you very much for my award. thank you to the people who voted for me. thank you to everybody. thank you to my mum, my dad, gb news for giving me the platform and everybody who's watching and listening right now. thank you so much. thank you charles, for coming in to see me. thank you so much. well, listen, good luck with everything. if people want to get involved, is there a website or somewhere they can go? yes, yes. >> so cgt awards. co.uk is the awards for nominations. so anyone like yourself or anyone who they feel needs to be acknowledged for the work they're doing in the community, get on board and nominate them if they want to get involved in the university aspect, the boss, the university aspect, the boss, the boss university. i think
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that's boss uni. co.uk i could be wrong, but they're all through the through the charles gordon trust website anyway, so if we click on that then it will take us hopefully to everywhere they need to go. >> all right listen charles thank you so much for coming in to join me. thank you so much for my award. listen, vote for me next time as well. i want to be like the anton du beke. nobody ever gets to win this one. i win it every time, people. charles gordon, entrepreneur. >> it was a landslide victory. >> it was a landslide victory. >> thank you. charles gordon , >> thank you. charles gordon, entrepreneur and author. thank you so much forjoining me here on gb news. it's fast approaching 31 minutes after 5:00. this is gb news. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua on the way. my panel will return . the way. my panel will return. there's loads still to discuss, but first, let's get your latest news headlines with tatiana sanchez. >> nana. thank you. and congratulations. while the top story this hour, home office figures show 801 illegal migrants crossed the english
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channelin migrants crossed the english channel in 14 small boats yesterday. that's a record daily number since labour came into power. and brings the total, who've crossed this year to over 23,200. and that's as eight migrants died overnight whilst trying to make that crossing. 53 migrants were on board a boat which got into difficulty off the coast of northern france around 51 survivors were rescued. six were taken to hospital, including a ten month old baby suffering from hypothermia . the news comes less hypothermia. the news comes less than two weeks after a separate incident where 12 migrants died after a boat sank off the french coastline . the foreign secretary coastline. the foreign secretary has defended the prime minister following allegations that sir keir starmer has broken parliamentary rules by failing to declare donations of clothing for his wife, the sunday times reported. the gifts came from labour donor lord alli and covered the cost of a personal shopper, clothes and alterations for the prime minister's wife dunng for the prime minister's wife during the election campaign . during the election campaign. >> this is not a breach of
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transparency rules. it's a prime minister that's acting positively to make sure that everything is above board. and this money comes from a long standing over two decades, lord alli has been in the house of lords. he has been a big supporter of the labour party. he's a self—made man and i think there is nothing to see here, really. >> and today's the duke of sussex's 40th birthday. the youngest son of the king will celebrate the start of his 40s at his californian home with his wife meghan, and their children, archie and lilibet. the prince has said he was anxious to turn 30, but that he's excited about 40. and he says his mission is now doing good in the world. earlier this morning, the x account for the royal family wished harry a happy birthday in their first public message for their first public message for the prince since 2021. and those are the latest gb news headlines. for now, i'm tatiana sanchez. headlines. for now, i'm tatiana sanchez . i'll be back in half an
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>> let's put it there in the gap. thank you darlings. there you go. put it on the front. there you go. look at that. i've got an award. i actually got an award. wow. all right. well, welcome. 37 minutes after 5:00. welcome. this is gb news. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua. it's time for the great british debate. i'm asking, is the dream of zero net by 2050 coming to an end? a report in today's telegraph reveals that ministers are planning to back away from a total ban on the sale of new
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petrol powered cars by allowing hybnd petrol powered cars by allowing hybrid vehicles to remain on the market until 2035. so for the great british debate this hour, i'm asking, is the dream of net zero by 2050 coming to an end? joining me now gb news senior political commentator nigel nelson, also journalist and broadcaster and car expert, car dealer, car expert, motoring journalist. sometimes kelly, a man of many hats. apart from that, i'm speech journalist and broadcast journalist. you said that author. but it's obviously you wrote a cookbook. >> i did write a cookbook when i was a lot younger. 15 pages, 51 funny pages one 516 pages, a very thin pamphlet, is it right? i think it's too early to tell whether 2050 is just a pipe dream. but what i can tell you is that the gritty reality of not having the infrastructure or the demand for electric cars, pure electric, is now kicking in, and keir starmer understands it. it's all very well being in the opposition slagging off. i off. the opposition slagging off. i think it was boris johnson who think it was boris johnson who
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used it as a brexit dividend, used it as a brexit dividend, saying we're out of the eu, so saying we're out of the eu, so let's release some freedoms, let's release some freedoms, we'll bring 2030, we'll push we'll bring 2030, we'll push 2030 back to 2035 for the ban on 2030 back to 2035 for the ban on petrol and petrol and diesels. petrol and petrol and diesels. keir starmer said oh, that's keir starmer said oh, that's reckless, you're this, you're reckless, you're this, you're that. and now he understands that. and now he understands that. and now he understands that. and now he understands that when you're in power and that when you're in power and authority, there's no point authority, there's no point optimistically saying we're going to do it unless you can optimistically saying we're going to do it unless you can achieve it. the demand is not achieve it. the demand is not out there. i know this for a out there. i know this for a fact. as a car dealer, there fact. as a car dealer, there aren't enough charging points. aren't enough charging points. you have range anxiety if you you have range anxiety if you live in a detached house with live in a detached house with your own charging point and you your own charging point and you may tootle around town, that's may tootle around town, that's great, but you're only doing great, but you're only doing that for 1 or 2 reasons. that for 1 you can't probably the first one is virtue signalling, because you can't beat the reliability in the signalling, because you can't beat the reliability in the long—range of a petrol or long—range of a petrol or diesel. >> well, you could always. and diesel. >> well, you could always. and these little tootling journeys these little tootling journeys you could possibly walk rather you could possibly walk rather than take the car or take a than take the car or take bicycle or something, they're probably more likely to be able to do that. i looked at the cheapest electric car on the market was one by citroen. i think it was about seven and a half grand or something, but it specifically says in it city driving. so it's telling you don't go too far, keep to your keep to your own neighbourhood.
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party were because the tory party were very concerned, because they were losing votes and people weren't happy with the 2030 deadline, which was madness. but if no one's buying electric cars, people don't want them. that's right. people don't want them. i'm not going to buy one. i will not buying an electric car. this is just to let the government know i'm not buying one. i'm not buying it because i've not bought into the notion that as a single woman driving a car, if that thing runs safe for you, what am i going to do late at night? what do i do? >> what on earth are the police forces around the country supposed to do? if you go to a police station, there's probably 20 panda cars which are in circulation and use 24 hours a day. when one eight hour shift stops for the day , another stops for the day, another person says, can i have the keys to that car? they go and fill up with diesel or petrol and it continues. what on earth are police forces supposed to do with electric cars? they've got to leave a charge in for an hour and a half. it's not going to work for the police. >> it's also a stupid idea because obviously then car park places like places buy them in the motorway, become car parks. everybody's fighting over chargers. you've seen fights where people get involved
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because they they want to be charging their car instead of somebody else's. as a woman, if you're on your own, what are you going to do ? somebody takes going to do? somebody takes their charge out and they're going to have to. then police the charging points. >> would you be in favour of keeping to the 2030 deadline if all those issues were sorted out? no because they're stupid. >> no, it doesn't even make any sense. why would i want a car that can do such a short range? and then i'm going to have to now to say that it's zero carbon whilthen; on the road now to say that it's zero carbon whilthen i'm the road now to say that it's zero carbon whilthen i'm going ad now to say that it's zero carbon whilthen i'm going to have to find another charging point and then i'm going to have to find another charging point somewhere. and then i've got to somewhere. and then i've got to get to that. and then i've got get to that. and then i've got to have 45 minutes to be able to to have 45 minutes to be able to sit down and wait for it to do sit down and wait for it to do that, especially if you've got that, especially if you've got children that just this, this children that just this, this was designed or the idea was has was designed or the idea was has been created by a man. it has to been created by a man. it has to be. >> i wouldn't be in favour. be. >> i wouldn't be in favour. >> i wouldn't be in favour. >> never be would never come up >> i wouldn't be in favour. >> never be would never come up with this. >> that is so sexist. i would with this. >> that is so sexist. i would never be. of course it is. never be. of course it is. you're saying that a man and a you're saying that a man and a woman a separate with their woman a separate with their ideas. >> i think on this occasion they ideas. >> i think on this occasion they would. and the reason i say that would. and the reason i say that is because in in my mind, as a is because in in my mind, as a woman, i'm thinking i will be woman, i'm thinking i will be alone at a place where i've got alone at a place where i've got to charge something for 45 to charge something for 45 minutes. no, i agree with that. minutes. no, i agree with that. so. so this is the thinking. so so. so this is the thinking. so the way women will be thinking the way women will be thinking and the way a man would be and the way a man would be thinking and approaching this thinking and approaching this
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subject, i think would be very subject, i think would be very different. >> well, there's lots of female different. >> well, there's lots of female politicians who are pushing politicians who are pushing that, aren't they? that, aren't they? >> theresa may was the one who >> theresa may was the one who came up with the 2050 deadline. came up with the 2050 deadline. but but, you know, to answer but but, you know, to answer nigel's point about whether the nigel's point about whether the infrastructure was in place for 2030, i would still not be in infrastructure was nigel's point about whether the infrastlicture was nigel's point about whether the infrasti would ivas favour of it, nigel, because nigel's point about whether the infrasti would still not be in 2030, i would still not be in favour of it, nigel, because it's universally unpopular. >> people can't afford a leccy it's universally unpopular. >> people can't afford a leccy cdl’s. >> cars. >> no, but what i was talking cdl’s. >> cars. >> no, but what i was talking aboutis aboutis >> no, but what i was talking about is the prices would have >> no, but what i was talking about is the prices would have to come down because that's, you to come down because that's, you know, the, the demand would know, the, the obviously go up on the basis that you couldn't buy a petrol, diesel one after that. so prices coming down and infrastructure in place. and that was the question really, if all those things were sorted are we are you in favour of the idea of going of the deadline and therefore hitting 2050? >> no, i'm not, because i don't think five years is going to affect 2050. we're talking about 2030 going to 2035. my position on this is that it's universally, generally speaking , universally, generally speaking, unpopular because people don't want it, can't afford it. and can't see the benefit. >> and also a lot of the advertising for the electric cars, they've had to change it. now to say that it's zero carbon
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open to white people? of course it was. what are you talking about? what? it's a very silly one. yes it was. and there were all people of all different colours in there as well, and everyone could vote honestly out of interest. what is this ? of interest. what is this? right. it's time for supplements sunday, the part of the show where my panel have a look at some of the stories hitting the headlines. joining me, gb news senior political commentator nigel nelson and journalist and broadcaster danny kelly. right. so let's start with nigel nelson. what's your one? >> i find that this one, it's the royal marines and they're changing their code words for operations because the top brass have decided the ones they already had were too sexual. so as a result of that, that violent entry becomes green salamander, and final thrust turns into commando forge. completely meaningless. >> commando means naked , though. >> commando means naked, though. >> commando means naked, though. >> well, it could do. yes, in which case they made a mistake there. >> but that's. but. so what was the one that's turned into commando? >> that that was final thrust as
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it has become commando. >> the reason like that is in the ears and mind of the person who hears it, and not necessarily the person that says it. you know what i mean? yeah, i do say it's the final thrust. if you in your mind think of a sexual reference to that when it isn't, that's your mind. but the person who's obviously thinking that thinks like that. exactly >> and the royal marines is exclusively a male squad. what's the regiment? that's right, isn't it? and if boys want to have some banter, historical banter, and it's not seen as offensive to the lads, i think they should be left alone to use it. if for example, there's resistance to it in the brigade or the regiment, say, do you know why it's 2024? we're not happy with it, know why it's 2024? we're not happy with it , then that's fine. happy with it, then that's fine. but i bet you they haven't been consulted. >> but final thrust, i mean like that's not they've changed it to commando, something which i think that's i mean, the important thing about code words. >> winston churchill did this and he always said that he really wanted, wanted aggressive code words like overlord and sledgehammer because the parents of sons being sent out to battle
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would have actually resented if they'd gone to operation bunny hug. so the idea is that as long as the words are a bit macho, that's quite good. but these ones don't mean anything, right, danny? >> well, this this this is an awful one. >> horror as river otter , we >> horror as river otter, we often think of otters as cuddly, cute creatures with massive teeth. river otter drags child off a dock. a little toddler walking on a dock and underwater in a vicious attack before the beast met a grim end. this is in washington. in america . mum washington. in america. mum toddler otter leaps onto the boardwalk, drags the little toddler into the water. mum goes in the drink like a superhero. the superhero she is grabs the child out of the otters, grip, gets back onto the boardwalk. the otter then goes back for more. no yeah. otter been in america. the otter ends up shot . america. the otter ends up shot. natural conclusion for such a vicious attack, but apparently it's not unusual. 6 or 7 attacks like that where otters try and steal toddlers put them in the water. really yeah. i never heard of that. >> i've never heard of that .
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>> i've never heard of that. i've never heard of that. >> it needs an operational code word for that . word for that. >> well that could well, we can't we can't have salamander. >> the marines have already got it. yeah. >> otters the same as beavers. >> otters the same as beavers. >> there's definitely. now there you go, operation beaver. now, that's more of a royal marine . that's more of a royal marine. that's a royal marine thing, isn't it ? isn't it? >> well, listen, this is my supplement. military families in legal action over the vat on private schools. this is, of course, the labour party's plan to charge private schools, vat , to charge private schools, vat, which obviously those schools will then pass the price to on the parents. and a lot of those children who go to independent schools come from military families, which the government normally would cover. but of course, they cover a certain percentage of. so this is this is a this is another sort of collateral damage from another policy from the labour vote. >> yeah. i mean they pay a proportion of the, of the fees and obviously that it's their choice. so there are military schools, schools around which are state schools. so for instance, my stepson goes, goes to the duke of york's royal military school in dover. it's a
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state boarding school. so a military family could send their their children there. they don't have to go to eton, harrow or winchester. >> but but that's if there are enough places and wherever the school is located. so you got lucky, but this is the final one. i wanted to play you the mrs. thatcher. this is what she said. this is what she said. have a listen. >> socialist governments traditionally do make a financial mess. >> they always run out of other people's money. it's quite a characteristic of them . characteristic of them. >> that was the first clip. and then she also said this . then she also said this. >> the fact is labour are still socialist and they deliberately set out to impose more government control over people's lives . lives. >> that is why that is the reason why they increased taxation, more power for them over our money, less power for the citizens. >> danny, was she right ? well, yes. >> it seems that she has been proven right. and just going
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back to the 20% vat, this is the i've said this before. this is the proletariat against the bourgeoisie. they are being pitted to each other. this is classic socialism. and there'll be many other things like this to come. unfortunately, under the starmer administration, the only point to make is that she said it before tony blair became prime minister. >> and of course he reduced national debt to 40%. yeah, currently it's 99%. >> but i would argue that blair wasn't a true socialist like starmer. blair was for pfi for example, with the nhs. he was all for trying to introduce external third party financial institutions in order to take the strain off. >> keir starmer can be described as a rampant leftie. >> oh, i think that he's showing the indicators that he's he's got the potential to be a rampant lefty. look at the 20% of perceived wealthy families with the schools. what's that then. >> well what is it indeed. good question. is it left wing ness? is it? well, listen. thank you so much to my panel. it's been a pleasure as ever. how much fun was that today ? it's been a
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was that today? it's been a great, big fun show. thank you so much to bipedal gb news senior political commentator nigel nelson, and also broadcaster and journalist nana akua. no and this is a huge thank you to you for your company. as ever, we love you. thank you so much for voting for me for this as well, coming up, loads of stuff, neil oliver and of course loads more . of course loads more. >> looks like things are heating up. boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news. >> hello. good afternoon and welcome to your gb news weather update brought to you by the met office. well as we head into next week, we have high pressure building so that means plenty of fine and dry weather around and some fairly warm days on offer too. for the end of the weekend though, we do have this cold front, which is slowly edging its way towards the south—east of the country, and that's bringing in some cloud and some outbreaks of rain and drizzle. now, as we head into the evening, there will still be some rain and drizzle towards
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the south, but it is generally easing and should just be largely cloudy. and that means it's going to be a fairly mild night compared to recent nights to the north of this, though, plenty of clear skies and light winds. so we're likely to see some mist and fog develop overnight, particularly in north western parts, and it's going to be fairly chilly too. so in rural areas, likely to see some spots of grass frost. so as i say to start monday morning there should be plenty of fine bright weather around, but there's likely to be some mist and fog in places as well, particularly in those rural spots . so even though there'll spots. so even though there'll be bright sunshine, do take care for the monday morning commute, particularly in northern parts of wales, northwest england, where there could be some quite dense fog in places towards the south. a fairly cloudy start still could be the drips and drabs of rain and drizzle across hilly areas, but any mist and fog and cloud is generally going to be lifting and breaking through the course of the day as that high pressure builds. and that high pressure builds. and that means plenty of fine and dry conditions to start the new working week . perhaps a bit more working week. perhaps a bit more high cloud in the northwest
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towards the end of the day, perhaps even seeing some rain and drizzle creeping into the outer hebrides. but otherwise plenty of fine dry weather and feeling fairly warm as well, with highs of 22 celsius down in the southeast into the evening . the southeast into the evening. feeling quite chilly as soon as the sun goes down. likely to see some frost once again and some mist and fog, but still more in the way of cloud feeding into the way of cloud feeding into the northwest . and as we head the northwest. and as we head into the next week, high pressure sticking around. so once again, lots of fine, warm, sunny weather around that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on
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good evening, good people. welcome along to the neil oliver show on gb news tv, radio and online. tonight i delve into the ongoing questions surrounding the event that changed the world. ted, walter and alan mendoza shed more light on that shortly. also, with the rise of the supposed far right making headunesin the supposed far right making headlines in the uk and across europe, i ask what this label really means, if anything, with conservative mp sir david davis. all of that and more coming up. but first, an update on the latest . latest. news. >> good evening. the top stories from the gb newsroom. home office figures show 801 illegal migrants
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