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a political party must be to a political party must be registered and declared archewell. >> as keir starmer is involved in yet another political scandal, is the prime minister the king of hypocrisy? plus . no the king of hypocrisy? plus. no wonder he's legged it to italy. but he's no closer to smashing the gangs , is he? and we have the gangs, is he? and we have got an exclusive for you that reveals how people smugglers are now running a ferry service for illegal immigrants. great stuff . illegal immigrants. great stuff. also tonight , what do you say to also tonight, what do you say to your victims? >> huw edwards huw edwards avoids jail. >> should he be behind bars and those not in receipt of pension credit or certain other means tested benefits will no longer receive the winter fuel payments from this year onwards. today is a day of shame. the winter fuel payments have been scrapped. millions of pensioners will be plunged into poverty. i'm going to do something about this on my
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panel tonight. it's the telegraph's madeline grant journalist benjamin butterworth, and the ex—chairman of the tory party sir jake berry. and the ex—chairman of the tory party sirjake berry. oh, and can you tell me, please, what happens next . can you tell me, please, what happens next. here? can you tell me, please, what happens next . here? get ready happens next. here? get ready britain, here we go . britain, here we go. it's time to save our seniors. next . next. >> good evening from the gb newsroom. it'sjust >> good evening from the gb newsroom. it's just gone 9:00. these are your headlines. junior doctors have voted to accept a government pay deal worth the rise of 22.3% on average, over two years. the british medical association thanked junior doctors in england for voting , doctors in england for voting, with 66% of junior doctors in favour of the deal. health
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secretary wes streeting said he is pleased they've accepted the government's offer. >> it was an essential first step for us to cut waiting lists and reform the nhs. that we ended the strikes that were plaguing patients in terms of delayed operations, appointments and procedures , and also causing and procedures, and also causing misery for junior doctors who should feel optimistic and confident about the future of the health service. they're working in. so to have achieved this deal, a fair deal for patients, a fair deal for taxpayers and a fair deal for junior doctors so quickly will be a huge course of source of relief for everyone across the country . country. >> now, in other news, disgraced bbc presenter huw edwards has been spared jail after admitting to accessing indecent images of children. but the judge said his long earned reputation is in tatters. it comes after the 63 year old was sent 41 illegal images by convicted alex
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williams over whatsapp. the court also heard edwards paid williams hundreds of pounds after receiving the images. at westminster magistrates court this afternoon, edwards was handed six months imprisonment, suspended for two years. it means he doesn't go to prison but is subject to a probation period. the former newsreader also has to undertake 25 rehabilitation sessions and be placed on the sex offender treatment programme for 40 days. in a statement, his former employer, the bbc, said edwards had betrayed not just the bbc but audiences who had put their trust in him, adding that the corporation was appalled by his crimes . meanwhile, the prime crimes. meanwhile, the prime minister has reaffirmed his commitment to cracking down on smuggling gangs after high level talks in rome. sir keir starmer met with italian leader giorgia meloni to discuss what he called italy's remarkable progress in halting mediterranean boat crossings. it comes after italy's recent controversial
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deal with albania to hand asylum claims in a joint press conference, both leaders underscored their commitment to supporting ukraine and pledged to work together to fight human trafficking . and the prime trafficking. and the prime minister has said it is very important that the rules are followed amid the ongoing row about a donor paying for his wife's clothes. the conservatives have called for an investigation into sir keir starmer's failure to declare significant donations from lord waheed alli . it's alleged he did waheed alli. it's alleged he did not report thousands of pounds worth of designer gifts for his wife, in violation of parliamentary rules . those are parliamentary rules. those are the latest gb news headlines. now it's back to patrick for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts .
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slash alerts. >> welcome along. i'm angry . i >> welcome along. i'm angry. i see a burning injustice. in britain, our greatest generation, our senior citizens, are being treated like second class citizens. today. it became official that winter fuel payments will be cut. the energy price cap has gone up, so bills could be around 10% higher. council tax is set to go up again and the single person discount may disappear, which would disproportionately affect the elderly in fact, it's even been nicknamed the widow tax . been nicknamed the widow tax. and now they might even lose their bus passes. now it breaks my heart to know that this winter , millions of elderly winter, millions of elderly people will be putting on a hat, a coat and gloves in their own front room. it breaks my heart that so many of them will have to choose between heating their home and eating a meal that day. now they have paid into the system their whole lives, but now they are at the back of the queuein now they are at the back of the queue in britain, and i think that's wrong . so i thought maybe
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that's wrong. so i thought maybe i could do something to help them out. and that's why today i have launched a fundraiser for friends of the elderly. i've set an initial target of £100,000. now, i know that sounds like a heck of a lot of money. it is a heck of a lot of money. it is a heck of a lot of money, but i know 100% that we can do that. okay, now i've got loads of stuff planned and this fundraiser is certainly going to be keeping me and my team very busy in the coming weeks. but let me just tell you a little bit about friends of the elderly, and that's their the donation page. all right. so that's just giving.com/page forward slash save our seniors okay. that's what the page address is anyway. so friends of the elderly they give grants to pensioners living in poverty. now this year is set to be their busiest year. we will have more pensioners plunged into poverty than ever before. they've had elderly people calling them in
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tears. they literally don't know where their next meal is coming from. so if you donate to just giving.com/page, forward slash, save our seniors, then that money will help save a senior citizen's life this winter. now unlike today's younger generation, who always have their hand out, many seniors are too proud to ask for help and that means many of them suffer in silence. well, not on our watch. now, i know you feel that there is a grave injustice here. our pensioners are getting clobbered so we can just give money away to everybody else. i know you care about that . like know you care about that. like i said, i've got a lot planned for this fundraiser, but you can get the ball rolling now by going to justgiving.com. forward slash page forward slash. save our seniors. thanks to you, we've done some amazing fundraisers @gbnews. we raised £130,000 for the mental health charity mind. we raised nearly half £1 million for the royal british legion. well let's see what we can do
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for our elderly. okay. i think what's happening to pensioners in britain is an absolute scandal. let's show the elderly that we care . so that's just that we care. so that's just giving.com/page/save our seniors. right. let's get the thoughts of my panel this evening. i'm joined by sketchwriter and columnist at the telegraph. we've got madeline grant. i'm also joined by journalist and broadcaster benjamin butterworth and the former chairman of the tory party, sirjake berry. and jake, i'll start with you on this. it just seems really, really, really out of whack that in britain we've got people who pay into the system their entire lives and that they end up getting clobbered, and we seem able to just dish money out to everyone else, don't we? i think the fact that you are starting that justgiving page is a national disgrace. >> i think it's absolutely appalling that the fourth or fifth richest economy in the world, a major national television broadcaster, has to start a fund to stop pensioners freezing to death over the
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winter. what on earth is the labour party doing taking this money away from pensioners? when i was growing up we used to have fund raisers on television, comic relief, raising money for starving children around the world, whether wherever it was we now in starmer's britain have to have a fund raiser on a national television channel because pensioners are going to die. this is not what people voted for in july. i applaud you for doing this. i think it's fantastic. i look forward to supporting it. but the fact you have to do it is an absolute disgrace. >> you know, the idea really that we have, it's not just the winter fuel payments because we've got the energy price cap going up as well, which will have an impact. council tax only ever seems to go up. so you know that will happen won't it as well. there's even chatter about them having their bus pass taken away. free prescriptions. yeah on the block i spoke to two friends of the elderly. i mean, they told me some absolutely horrendous stories about people who are like 1 or £2 above the,
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the price cap. so now they are just going to be absolutely clobbered. it just it just doesn't seem fair to me in britain, i think. how do you feel about it? >> well, i think the way in which they've gone about this is unbelievably callous in the sense that if they wanted to means test some pensioner welfare, they could have done it in a different way. they could, for example, have said that any pensioner who's paying the additional rate or the higher rate fine, know winter fuel payments for those people, but it's restricting it exclusively to pensions, credit, and also in not giving people any notice about this. i mean, this is a big sum of money if you're already struggling and to be given no notice, something that was not in the manifesto. and of course, we also know that many pensioners are not particularly tech savvy and many people. and the process of going about applying for pensions credit is notoriously complex. it involves endless form filling. it's a very complicated system , so very complicated system, so there may well be people who are even eligible for that, but will not now be looking for it. and i just think that the both the seriousness of this and the manner in which they've gone about it leave much to be
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desired. and i'm someone who broadly does support means testing certain pension and benefits. >> yeah, absolutely. and benjamin, you know, it's to me it's the massive sense of injustice that we've got here. right. so we are able to lob about £11 billion out around the world to help other countries deal with climate change. we are able to give an infinite pot of resources to people who've just arrived across the channel and yet we've got people who are conceivably in their 80s or 90s, our greatest generation, who will now essentially be freezing in their own, in their own front rooms. i just think that's just such a hypocrisy. well, you have people at the bottom of the pile who are pensioners that clearly need help and probably have needed more help for a long time how. >> now. >> you also have 27% of pensioners that are in million pound houses, and that's a figure often quoted in the daily express, which is hardly an anti pensioner newspaper. and i think that, you know, some of this has been distorted because the state pension went up by £900 in april, next april it goes up by
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£460. so this winter the average pensioner will receive more money from the state, even with this £300 knocked off than they did last winter. >> so they have not, if that's correct or not. >> and it's even more than inflation council tax. it's even more than inflation. and so i think there is an awful lot of scaremongering going on to regular pensioners who are going to get more money even after inflation. >> i mean, the first thing without it's not more than inflation. it is the triple lock tracks inflation. it is only more than inflation. if inflation itself is less than 2.5%. and we've been through a penod 2.5%. and we've been through a period where inflation has been eight, nine, 10%, it's just absolutely incorrect, benjamin, to say it's more than inflation. it's not. it is absolutely designed to track inflation on a certain date. the fact that it may be more than inflation today doesn't mean that pensioners haven't suffered inflation for the last year. it's just completely untrue to say that the rise in wages has been higher than in saying that there's scaremongering going on here. >> but, you know, over the course of the next few weeks, i'm going to be laying bare the
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actual reality of what pensioners are going through at the moment and the fear that they've got. and it is just absolutely heartbreaking where they're at. and yeah, just i suppose it's a question of, you know, we've had two perceived two tier policing, two tier justice. i mean, this almost seems like a two tier society, two tier care in the on the day we found out that a man who earns £166,000 a year, his wife, we don't know her salary, but it's reported to be over 600,000. >> they get over 60,000. i beg your pardon? i was going to say. yeah, i know exactly where do i sign, combined income of 200 grand, a free house, number 10 downing street in central london. we hear from keir starmer today that not only can he not afford to buy his suits, and his wife can't afford to buy her own dresses, he can't afford to buy his own tickets to go and see his beloved arsenal. i don't know why he's going to arsenal instead of liverpool anyway, but you know, that is double standards and hypocrisy writ large across this labour body. a prime minister who wants all the freebies for himself. give me the money, give me the clothes, even give me the glasses. you
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could get some free glasses. i won't give a pensioner £200. >> i absolutely knew you would . >> i absolutely knew you would. >> i absolutely knew you would. >> won't give pensioner £200. it's a disgrace. why can this man who is our prime minister not read the room? he is absolutely wrong and he and his wife are like a pair of grifters squatting in number 10. >> all mps get tickets to events. so can i just check if i go and look at your register of members interests? from your time as an mp, you've never accepted a gift to an event? >> i don't think i have, actually. i mean, i might be wrong, maybe 15 years ago. i mean, i don't think i have if you're attacking keir starmer for something that you and but it's not it's not like i'm not taking i'm not literally freezing pensioners to death this winter. you know, politics is about choices. and how can we have a prime minister who says, i can't afford to buy my own tickets to the football because i might need to go in a box or something in my ear now, which is which? >> i do believe it. this happens all the time. what we've raised seven and a half grand. that's
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brilliant. right >> seven and a half. >> seven and a half. >> 347 people have already donated to just giving.com/page forward slash. save our seniors . forward slash. save our seniors. we're going to give the money all of it to friends of the elderly. they do grants for people. they help take them to doctor's appointments, dentist appointments all of that stuff. and apparently i've just been told in my ear, now that we launched that 15 minutes ago and you've managed to raise seven and a half grand in that amount of time, benjamin, keep talking that idea. wow, this is amazing. yeah brilliant. well done everybody. right. look, just to just to, just to just to emphasise why i'm rattling the can for this. right. because it really does seriously, genuinely break my heart when i think about this injustice that's going on in britain at the moment. it doesn't seem fair. it doesn't seem right to me. and i also know that a lot of elderly people are often too proud to ask for help. and there was one testimony i spoke to someone from friends of the elderly, and they said to me that this lady, bless her, called up and
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obviously she's called up because she must need some help and she was on the phone for 20 minutes before she admitted, i need a bit of help. actually, you know, this is the generation that deserve this kind of stuff. so well done and thank you everybody, really for for, donating to that. but i'll, i'll just bring us bring us back into the room here. just picking up on what what jake was saying. so you've got this idea. starmer. you know he is a millionaire. i'm not begrudging him that. well, you know, well done. yeah and, you know, i think when his mum was, was was getting on a bit, he bought her a seven acre plot in surrey. i believe, which is quite nice. and they had a donkey sanctuary. they did. yes. so that's all lovely. right. and then now you've got this guy saying, no, we're going to take away the, the winter fuel payments. the optics of it aren't great, are they? >> i actually can't believe how quickly it's taken them to fall into these obvious bear traps that, you know, firstly, if you're going to make a kind of decision like this, at least give people tons of notice so you can have a proper public service campaign explaining to people about the necessity of signing up for pension credit, for example. but they didn't do that. they just rushed it
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through. in fact, it looks very much like essentially the treasury, who asked probably every incoming prime minister tell them that this would be a good idea. but on the whole, prime ministers sensibly say, no, that's a very bad idea. but on this occasion rachel reeves said, yes, but also just that , said, yes, but also just that, you know, the optics of, of the, you know, the optics of, of the, you know, the optics of, of the, you know, having, having made such a song and dance about probity and honesty and being , probity and honesty and being, you know, unbelievably pious for several years under rishi sunak and previously boris johnson , to and previously boris johnson, to have have failed to declare these gifts. i mean, it's just it's actually i mean, who is in charge of this? you would have thought this was very basic politics 101 that they've somehow managed to screw up. >> yeah, i know, i agree and also as well , >> yeah, i know, i agree and also as well, i just think the idea of getting your wife a personal shopper, and it's the idea of a lord buying a millionaire's wife clothes is a bit creepy and weird, isn't it? >> i mean, let's be honest, how many free pairs of glasses of you have? benjamin?
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>> i've had 2 or 3 free pairs of glasses, but they weren't like indecent proposal. >> he had a pasta number 10 as well for a few days maybe. it was like indecent proposal. allegedly. >> i've known lord ali for some time and he's donated to the labour party for a very long time. it's not creepy because he's a gay man. really? he was married to a for man many years. he, in fact, he was the first gay person appointed to the house of lords in the 90s. and, you know, i think it's wrong that they didn't declare it. but the truth is that the expectations of how politicians are meant to look, those things cost a fortune, and we don't put them on salaries. >> they have a they have a household salary of 200 grand and they live rent free. what are you saying? you can't afford to go to specsavers and get a pair of glasses? what planet does this man live on? >> also, i'm sorry, but most people in britain couldn't pick his wife out of a line—up, right? so the idea that she has to be walking around dripping from head to toe, a gorgeous woman, she would look good in a bin bag. >> i'm not saying she should go out in a bin bag, but i don't. i don't think it necessarily needs to be the highest of the high
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end, she should look good in anything, but the fact is, i think this wouldn't have hit quite so hard if keir starmer hadnt quite so hard if keir starmer hadn't consistently assumed the moral high ground to the point of being, you know, at times insufferably. >> he did used to be a prosecutor. did you know that about him? he knows the law. he knows the law. >> yeah, but i forget. >> yeah, but i forget. >> if only his dad were a dress maker. >> okay, sorry i'm being shouted at because we've we've rambled on far too long. but look, thank you very much, everybody, just giving.com/page/save our seniors. is that fundraiser i have got a heck of a lot planned in the coming weeks. okay. so we're going to be doing we're going to be doing a few bits and bobs, which obviously i will, i will let you know about. i'll be doing them, i think we've raised 14 grand now. unbelievable. we're on air for 20 minutes. and you wonderful people have raised £14,000. that shows how much you care. it's all for friends of the elderly. i'll tell you a bit more about it in the coming days. et cetera. coming up, though. the prime minister got booed and sworn at by crowds at doncaster racecourse. just how has labour become so unpopular in just ten weeks? and yet, how are they? the tories still even
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less popular? yeah, that's right, legendary former editor at the sun, kelvin mackenzie, helped me get to the bottom of that riddle. also, disgraced former bbc presenter huw edwards dodged jail after sentencing for indecent images of children. but should he repay the monster taxpayer funded salary he was enjoying , whilst the bbc enjoying, whilst the bbc apparently knew about the charges against him? i'm going to be asking one of his former colleagues, but up next it's the head to head firebrand tory mp andrew rosindell clashes with commentator andy williams on the scandals that keep coming to laboun scandals that keep coming to labour. you're hearing a little bit about it there. is it time that the prime minister got a good dressing down? patrick christys tonight. see you in a
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okay. welcome back to patrick christys tonight. we are only on gb news now. just before we get stuck into tonight's head to head, i just want to say a massive, massive, massive thank you in the last 24 minutes you have raised £22,000, £23,000 for friends of the elderly. okay, we are trying to just raise a bit of money to help people out. friends of the elderly give, pensioners who are sadly now below the poverty line grants urgent grants. they do things like help them go to doctors appointments. they are seeing a massive influx this year because people who just missed out on that winter fuel payment, so they're seeing a huge influx .
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they're seeing a huge influx. now, it is no exaggeration at all, so that the money that you give will save lives. i've got a lot planned for this in the coming weeks , so i thought i'd coming weeks, so i thought i'd launch this fundraiser tonight. that's the fundraiser you can see it on your screen now. it's just giving.com/page forward slash . save our seniors. we've slash. save our seniors. we've hit in the last 25 minutes. you wonderful people have hit 23% of that target. it's amazing. we're already up to £23,000. thank you, thank you, thank you a million times. thank you . but i million times. thank you. but i think we can save some lives and show the elderly our greatest generation that we do actually really care about them. but yes , really care about them. but yes, without further dither and delay, let's get back to the show. we had planned. and it's time now for our head to head . time now for our head to head. all right, so why on earth is multi—millionaire sir keir starmer letting a billionaire labour donor buy his wife a new wardrobe and throw in a personal shopper whilst he's at it? why? well, don't worry, because according to our esteemed foreign secretary david lammy, there is nothing to see here.
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it's just a labour supporter making sure the prime minister looks presentable in our country. >> there isn't a budget for the prime minister's clothes or his wife's clothes. i've just come back from america where there is a substantial budget to ensure that the us president and the first lady, their appearance can never be challenged. that is not the case in our country. >> oh my gosh, honestly , come >> oh my gosh, honestly, come on, just to just to take a second to imagine now how labour and their supporters would react if boris johnson didn't declare a donation that paid for kyrees clothes. or maybe this is nothing to see here. politicians freebees you know, they get them quite regularly, don't they? we all know that the prime minister is insistent that he's done nothing wrong. he hasn't ruled out taking donations from lord alli in the future. i'm not surprised. so is this a storm in a teacup, or is labour now becoming the party of sleaze? let me know your thoughts. gbnews.com/yoursay gb news is our twitter handle so you can engage with us there. but to
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battle this out in the studio, our tory mp andrew rosindell and political commentator andy williams, both of you, thank you very much. it makes a world of difference having you both in the studio. so thank you, andrew, i'll start with you. yeah.i andrew, i'll start with you. yeah. i mean, is this is this corruption and sleaze? do you think i want our prime minister, whoever it is, to look good? >> but if you're a multi—millionaire, you can pay for your own clothes . when we for your own clothes. when we have a government that is doing so much harm, particularly to the elderly people cutting the winter fuel allowance and all the other things that are coming down the line, which are going to affect them. the look of a labour prime minister, a labour prime minister actually getting cash to pay for his spectacles and his suits. and then we find out his wife has been doing the same. i think it's utterly shameful. and i think a lot of people who voted labour on the 4th of july are going to be regretting doing so today. >> interesting. all right then, andy, i'll ask you the same question, you know, is this is this a bit sleazy? >> no, i don't think it's sleazy.
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i don't think it's a good look. and as a labour supporter and someone who thinks labour can and actually will make some progress on cleaning up politics, and i mean that seriously , i think it's really seriously, i think it's really unfortunate to see starmer making some of these rookie errors. i would put it to down naivety and inexperience and a steep learning curve rather than anything sinister. now, by the way, i think whoever's running comms in number 10 needs to get a handle on it, because allowing victoria starmer to go to london fashion week this morning is ludicrous. i say as a professional comms person , what professional comms person, what were they thinking? but having said all of that, the idea that laboun said all of that, the idea that labour, that labour is the party of sleaze or corruption, when you look at what happened with the conservative successive conservative governments over many years, which i think reached its absolute apex under bofis reached its absolute apex under boris johnson, a man who did more to debase the office of prime minister than anyone pretty much in the history of that office. i think, is a bit of a cheek. and that's not even to mention the snp. >> okay, andrew, i mean, you know, this is the kind of thing
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that if unfortunately for keir starmer, there's always a receipt and the receipts are him standing at the despatch box in parliament, hammering boris johnson, not declaring things, not declaring things , really, not declaring things, really, really, really going at him. and now he's done it . really, really going at him. and now he's done it. is he a hypocrite? >> i'm afraid so, yes. i don't like saying that about our prime minister, but it is utterly hypocritical that all those years labour would throw as much mud at the conservatives as they could . and okay, a lot of could. and okay, a lot of mistakes were made under the last government, but this was meant to be a government of service. who are they serving? they're serving their own. they're serving their own. they're looking they're looking after their own interests. this is not a governance of service. it's been a government of shambles so far. and now we see it's a government of self service. i think the british people are growing tired of this government very quickly. >> i don't agree at all that it's government of shambles. i think labour has been very clear about what they're planning to do. i think they've made some really bold calls early on. i actually think, and hopefully
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this will raise a few more thousand pounds for your thing, patrick, but i actually think it's the right decision to make on the winter fuel allowance. i really, really do because as aj uk themselves say, 80% of people who receive the winter fuel allowance don't need it. so i think we should be taking that money away from those people because they literally don't need it. they'll be fine. they're obviously people at the margins and at the poor end of the scale who do need that money. but putting that to one side, just to come back to, you know, you say if this was boris johnson who'd done this, well, it was, it literally was. and actually there is resign. rightly so. and there is a then what happens now? there is a subtle difference here, but important difference, which is that keir starmer, he declared this late, he declared this late and that is a mistake. and he should rightly receive opprobrium for that. he paid for bofis opprobrium for that. he paid for boris johnson. boris johnson didn't. boris johnson didn't. >> boris suits and spectacles. >> boris suits and spectacles. >> but the point it doesn't . >> but the point it doesn't. andrew. it doesn't matter whether it's clothes or wallpaper . wallpaper. wallpaper. wallpaper. >> i'm sorry. wallpaper is static. it's in downing street in a government building . you in a government building. you can't take the wallpaper with him. doesn't make suits. and the spectacles you can totally. >> it doesn't make it doesn't
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make. >> no comparison. >> no comparison. >> no. and i think the i think the i'll just i'm just going to bnng the i'll just i'm just going to bring it up because we're going to, we're going to carry on with this. >> but i just wanted to show us and remind ourselves of something that keir starmer was saying in parliament when he was in those heady days as leader of the opposition. so this is him to boris johnson. >> i think prime minister will be aware that he's required to declare any benefits that relate to his political activities, including loans or credit arrangements, within 28 days, 28 days. prime minister yes, he will also know that any donation must be recorded in the register of ministers interests and that under the law, any donation of over £500 to a political party must be registered and declared . must be registered and declared. >> all right, so look, keir starmer, north london all right. it's quite nice, quite leafy isn't it. you know it's been surrounded you know quite well paid jobs. his life. he doesn't seem necessarily able to define properly what working class is you know hammering people. certainly the elderly in britain
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at the moment with a basket of measures that is going to really harm them. this winter. and then at the same time, you know, he's got a personal shopper doing his wife's clothes shopping . do you wife's clothes shopping. do you think he's massively out of touch with people? >> oh my goodness, he is completely. these people are supposed to be caring, sharing socialists. they're meant to be looking after the working class. they're meant to be the party of the people, but they're not. you come to romford, you speak to you come to my constituency. the average man and woman in the street, they are incandescent with what this government is doing. they didn't vote for this government. they voted. >> no one voted for this because it wasn't in the manifesto. >> absolutely. and they are hypocritical. they spent 14 years hammering a conservative government which, by the way, left the country. the economy, the economics of the country was in a far stronger state. oh really? the pandemic? yes. no, it wasn't the fastest growing economy in the g7. >> living standards down, real wages down to all. oh, yeah. >> yeah, i'll ask you. i'll just
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ask you a similar question on this. i do wonder whether or not keir starmer is actually massively out of touch with the with the common man and woman. does he live in the same world that we live? >> well it does. it does annoy me. patrick. when we go down this london route, i mean, the idea that everybody in romford is really normal and straight down the line, everyone in london, you should know. i do know that. thank you. my partners from essex and everybody in holborn and saint pancras is somehow like an elitist, multi—millionaire lawyer is a load of nonsense , lawyer is a load of nonsense, though, isn't it? well, i don't think he's an elitist and i know i really, really, i really don't. keir starmer is from a lower working class background, lower working class background, lower middle class background. let's say, okay, let's not split hairs. he is . and he worked his hairs. he is. and he worked his way up and he worked bloody hard and he got a knighthood on merit. and he became director of pubuc merit. and he became director of public prosecutions on merit . so public prosecutions on merit. so can we just say, can we just say fair play to him on that? absolutely. and to say that i just don't think it's fair to say, oh, he represents this sort of central north london constituency. so he's out of touch. but because andrew represents romford he's really in touch. it doesn't make sense.
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it doesn't make sense at all. >> anything else about keir? i mean all credit to him. he won this humongous labour majority. but he also is the prime minister with the lowest national share of the vote of any prime minister ever. >> but that's not how our system works. >> it's like saying people he doesn't have a mandate. >> he absolutely has a huge mandate in that 4% of the vote. that's like saying, well, you only you only won one nil, but you had 28% of the vote. >> well, okay. >> well, okay. >> all right. well, well, look, it remains to see how how this plays out. but, you know, it's going to be one to watch, isn't it? he says that he'll quite happily take more donations from lord alli going forward. i do find it odd, though. i must say, the idea that i just, i don't know, i don't know why emily would make of it if i said, oh, lord, alli wants to go and buy you a new wardrobe. anyway right? okay, so, we are. i think, just going to dip our toe back in the old donations. water are we as well? because i'm trying to do a bit of fundraising for friends of the elderly. you can go to justgiving.com forward slash page forward slash, save our seniors. i've set a £100,000
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target to try and make, to make people's lives a bit easier this winter. pensioners who are now sadly below the poverty line help them with heating with eating, with all that stuff. and so far, apparently we've raised 32 grand. so well done and thank you. i've got a lot planned for this campaign. we're going to be heanng this campaign. we're going to be hearing a heck of a lot about it in the coming days anyway, right? okay. in other news, the prime minister gets booed by crowds at doncaster racecourse. just how has labour become so unpopular in ten weeks? but next, disgraced former bbc presenter huw edwards. well, he dodged jail at his sentencing today for indecent images of children, but should he repay that taxpayer funded salary? okay,
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welcome back to patrick christys. tonight on gb news now. disgraced former bbc news anchor huw edwards was sentenced in court today after he pleaded guilty to three charges of making indecent images of children. edwards was greeted by shouts from the press and from protesters holding placards of fellow notorious bbc employee jimmy savile. he was handed a six month suspended sentence, lasting for two years, being spared jail for his crimes. they also had a basket of other measures as well. like he's got to, you know, go and attend some courses or something before officially leaving in april. he's estimated to have been paid between 400 and £75,000 and
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£480,000 in the previous 12 months, including during a penod months, including during a period of suspension where the bbc were reportedly aware of the severity of the charges against edwards. bbc salaries are paid for by the taxpayer. it's public money, it's your money. and last week bbc boss tim davie told the house of lords committee that he requested that edwards return to £200,000 of the money. but, apparently he's yet to hear back. so there we go. our home security editor, mark white, did ask huw edwards about quite a difficult question earlier today. unsurprisingly, he didn't have much to say back. >> what do you say to your victims? huw edwards edwards, will you give back the £200,000 to the bbc? >> all right. well, i'm joined now by the former head of religion and ethics at the bbc is akhil. akhil, thank you very much . sorry to be talking to you much. sorry to be talking to you about something as kind of vile as this. really but, you know, that's the way it goes, i'm
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afraid. should huw edwards be made to pay that money back , do made to pay that money back, do we think? >> i mean, on a personal level, yeah, i do, that's what i personally think. >> and obviously i'm speaking now in a purely personal capacity. i think the bbc have got to go through a legal process to try and get the money out of it. you've got to ask him first, you know, and the likelihood is he's not going to give it back, is he, you know, and then they've got to go through a legal process. personally, i think he should give the money back. i think, you know, i think he's i don't think he's behaved properly. i mean, the bbc didn't know everything at the beginning . everything at the beginning. they things have moved on. the story is, you know, there's a number of different things going on with that particular story. you can't not pay somebody when they're suspended, etc. during they're suspended, etc. during the investigation. there's all sorts of legal issues there, right, to ask for that money back. and i'm sure they are taking a lot of legal advice. you know, you can't scratch your back at the bbc without needing legal advice at times. there'll be lots of legal advice going on and they've got to ask for that money back. on a personal level, i think it is. >> yeah. i mean, it has it has lent weight to what we were just
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seeing on the screens then was people who turned up at court with signs with jimmy savile on and probably a couple of other people as well there and, and all of that stuff. and it's, it's added weight to the argument now whether this is true or not, but it's added weight to the argument, hasn't it, that the bbc has, and maybe at times protected those people ? at times protected those people? do you think that anything like that happened here with huw edwards? >> no, i don't think the huw edwards that was the case, and i think that, i think what you've got to remember, there's a huge there's a huge distance in terms of time between jimmy savile and things like this. and there's a big difference in between in his behaviour as well. i mean, jimmy savile was just ridiculous and outrageous and, and all those other characters like it. not what there is there's an issue here about it's not just the bbc, it's across the whole we saw it with you know, the kind of phillip schofield and we've seen it with other, other alleged kind of stories around things like russell brand etc. there's a whole thing here about people who have authority and have power and that kind of imbalance that they can have about how one people may let
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them get away with stuff because they think their talent or two people are scared to say anything because they think that their career. >> can i ask, what was he? >> can i ask, what was he? >> what was he like? i mean, did you, did you work much with him? this this presumably was a was a shock. >> i gotta be honest with you. it was a shock. i mean, i don't it was a shock. i mean, i don't i wasn't i'm not going to lie and say i was his best friend, but we did work together. we worked. he worked. he presented things like songs of praise. but on a personal level. we worked very closely together. when i, you know, i had to run the religious kind of coverage of the pope's visit. you know, when the pope's visit. you know, when the pope's visit. you know, when the pope came over to scotland and england a few years ago, hugh was my face, if that makes any sense. he was the face of those live broadcasts, and i worked very closely with him. you know, we talked about really trivial things like cycling, if i'm honest with you, and suits and all that kind of rubbish, or talking about work. and i saw him in action and he was a brilliant presenter, and that's what makes it even harder for people. >> it's bad news. it's bad news for the bbc archives, isn't it?
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because there's some really, really major things , i think. really major things, i think. >> i think it's going to be tough, isn't it, to cut him out of certain things? >> well, you can't i mean, he did . he did it all, didn't he. did. he did it all, didn't he. all right. look, thank you very much. to great have you on the show. i do hope to chat to you again very, very soon. and that is the former head of religion and ethics at the bbc, aqeel ahmed. i know the other big question, of course, is should he have gone to prison for this? but then you look at the person who sent in the pictures, they didn't go to prison. so i think it was always unfortunately, the case that huw edwards was, was not really ever going to do any time behind bars. but a bbc spokesperson said we are appalled by his crimes. he's betrayed not just the bbc, but audiences who put their trust in him. right. coming up, i'm going to bring you a gb news exclusive at ten. it's an update on the channel migrant crisis. how on earth do we put a stop to it? starmer's been off air living it large in italy today. i'm not sure he's actually managed to achieve anything there. but next. so the prime minister was booed and sworn at by crowds at doncaster racecourse. just how
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next. okay, welcome back to patrick christys . tonight i have an christys. tonight i have an update for you. as you will know, if you've been watching since the start of the show, i've decided that i wanted to fundraise for friends of the elderly. you can go to justgiving.com forward slash page justgiving.com forward slash page forward slash, save our seniors and so far already it's got to . £39,279. absolutely got to. £39,279. absolutely unbelievable. well done everybody. pensioners are absolutely getting it this winter because you've got the scrapping of the winter fuel payments that came in today. you've got the energy price cap that's gone up, council tax that will go up. there's even talk of their bus pass being taken off them as well. you're going to have old people wrapping up in their living room unable to put food on the table. it's a
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disgrace. and we've got money for everyone else, haven't we? so come on, let's try and raise a little bit of money for them. so thank you very much to everybody who's donated. it really does mean a lot. we've got a lot planned in the coming weeks. but anyway, it will come as no surprise just moving us on to find out. then it's ten weeks since keir starmer came to power. he and his party have not got off to the best start when it comes to the public affection. the pm, well, he was, he was shouted at actually on at the races in doncaster. this is what some people had to say to him . it's interesting. i didn't him. it's interesting. i didn't realise he was a banker. oh. oh, no, sorry, i can't repeat what they were saying. there but anyway, with popularity ratings plummeting now , have starmer and plummeting now, have starmer and labour become so unpopular so quickly ? kelvin mackenzie joins quickly? kelvin mackenzie joins us now. kelvin, sorry, we're a bit squeezed tonight. i'm rattling the cam for a charitable cause, but, so, so keir. right, he's he's getting booed and, called rude names at the races. now, it didn't take
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long. >> well, he obviously isn't really connected with politics. theidea really connected with politics. the idea of going to doncaster racecourse, doncaster , really racecourse, doncaster, really challenged time probably for the town right now and then then to see a prime minister who has just insulted the elderly by taking some money away from them. and also it would have been ten times worse had the story broken as it did about six hours later. that in fact , miss hours later. that in fact, miss lady starmer was in fact wearing potentially could have been wearing a dress paid for by a labour donor rather than her husband, which was a really weird aspect. he is a already extremely unpopular. he is going to become more unpopular. we've got october the 30th coming up. i can't think of what shocking shape labour are going to be in. and the truth about the matter is that they got in because the conservatives were hated. yeah,
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and everything that labour have done has now reminded everybody why the tories were in power for 14 years. and somebody like starmer, a wealthy, he's estimated to be worth £10 million, can't even afford to buy his wife's dresses, nor can he even afford. he has to rely on lord darzi to buy himself suit. >> when? >> when? >> when? >> when did we ever have a prime minister who ever said, look, mate, i'm a casey, i'm this, that and the other. i can't afford my own glasses. who ever said that? nobody ever said that . said that? nobody ever said that. and that's why people don't like it. everybody would like to be walking around saying, oh, it's fantastic. gb news oh, that's a rather nice suit. patrick. yes, gb news have bought it for me . gb news have bought it for me. it's ridiculous. you pay it out of your own money and now they they wheel out lammy to say , they wheel out lammy to say, actually, i tell you what, why don't we. it's because we want our people to look great and they have to pay out their own money. the prime minister makes 166,000 a year. okay, two he
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gets he gets other money sent to him. his missus. right. i admire her no end . she's a working her no end. she's a working wife, a working woman, and she's got a family. she makes 50,000 a year working for the nhs. great. you know what? why? why? that's 200 grand. more than 200 grand a year coming in. and they're saying we can't afford our own suit, and my missus can't afford that. suit, and my missus can't afford that . m suit, and my missus can't afford that. m ridiculous. >> no. it's ridiculous. and again, you know, the optics of it, the timing of it with everything else that's going on as well, when it comes to either winter fuel payments or council tax or any of that stuff. yeah, really, really bad. there was another video that we've decided not to play because it's, well, we didn't necessarily want to seem like we were glorifying it, really for being honest, but of a another labour mp getting turfed out of a pub, the aldershot one. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> getting turfed out of a pub. >> getting turfed out of a pub. >> well, do you know what? i don't like that very much, to be honest with you. now, if you had nigel farage sitting here, he actually doesn't go into pubs now because of sometimes the abuse which he might receive or
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has received. actually, the sense of violence associated with it. he feels very, very uneasy about it. i do not like the idea that there's a threatening aspect to our politicians. we have seen literally two to die, two murdered in the last, what, ten, ten, 12 years? i, i would like everybody to calm down on it. look, if you're in public life. right. my advice to you is do not go into public houses, to be honest with you. and if i'm the prime minister, definitely don't don't go on to don't go to doncaster racecourse. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> so i feel that all it was was a reflection that , that people a reflection that, that people don't like politicians generally . don't like politicians generally. thatis don't like politicians generally. that is that is the truth. >> yeah . do you think that that >> yeah. do you think that that keir starmer will actually go the full term? i mean he's onto something like a —25% approval rating at the moment. it's been a really catastrophic for the truth about the matter is all this stuff is self—induced. >> wait until you've got an
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opposition. wait until there is a problem , right? wait until a problem, right? wait until there's a real problem where you where there isn't a right thing, and then we'll find out whether he will survive or not. but actually, that party owes a lot to the fact that he refused to say anything about his policy, about anything that he was associated with. had he told them, by the way, in the, in the, in the general election run up, by the way, my clothes and my wife's clothes are being paid for by a labour donor. do you think he would have won by that? i don't think so. and had rishi been so stupid as to leave it instead of july the 4th and made it, made it january the 4th or the next year, the difference may have been entirely indeed. >> well, kelvin, thank you very , >> well, kelvin, thank you very, very much. great to have you on the show. as ever. i'm going to bnng the show. as ever. i'm going to bring you tomorrow's newspaper front pages at 10:30 pm. sharp. full analysis as well from our press pack , but at ten. so next press pack, but at ten. so next ibnng press pack, but at ten. so next i bring you a gb news exclusive. it's on the channel. migrant crisis. how on earth, how on earth do we put a stop to it? starmer was in italy today. he
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was hoping to, you know, come up with an idea. it's interesting though, isn't it, because i thought we had a plan, didn't he? but apparently not. so, so there we go. but yes, it's an exclusive. you will not believe the latest tactic that the human traffickers are using now. stay tuned for that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb. >> news . >> news. >> news. >> hi there and welcome to the latest forecast from the met office for gb news it was missing throughout much of the summer, but higher pressure has now arrived. there will be some cloud in places , but for most cloud in places, but for most it's clear spells through the night and during the next few days under this high pressure. that's centred over the uk, that's pushed a cold front south. but another weak front will move into the far northwest overnight. that's going to bring some thicker and lower clouds, some thicker and lower clouds, so fairly murky and damp in places. louis harris sky as well as shetland seeing some light and patchy outbreaks of rain elsewhere, clear skies under
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outcome. >> no wonder he's legged it to italy, but he's no closer to smashing the gangs. and we have an exclusive for you that reveals how people smugglers are now running a ferry service for illegal immigrants. also tonight , illegal immigrants. also tonight, not in receipt of pension credit or certain other means tested benefits will no longer receive the winter fuel payment from this year onwards. today is a day of shame. the winter fuel payments have now been scrapped. millions of pensioners will be plunged into poverty through that, and a variety of other different ways in which they're getting clobbered. meanwhile, of course, if you do decide to come across the channel, you get all the benefits in the world. we are raising a little bit of money for the elderly members of our society. you can go to justgiving.com, forward, slash, page justgiving.com, forward, slash, page forward slash, save our seniors. we started that fundraiser an hour ago and it's now . at £42,176. you are amazing now. at £42,176. you are amazing people. i have got a lot planned. in the coming weeks, you're going to be hearing me
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bang on about this all the time. i'm afraid we're going to try and raise as much money as we possibly can to help show the elderly that we, at least we hear the gb news viewers. we do care about them. anyway, on my panel tonight is the telegraph's madeline grant. we've got journalist benjamin butterworth and the ex—chairman of the tory party sir jake berry. and the ex—chairman of the tory party sirjake berry. oh, and can you tell me, please, what happens next . can you tell me, please, what happens next. here? can you tell me, please, what happens next . here? ready, happens next. here? ready, britain. here we go . britain. here we go. human traffickers are laughing at keir starmer. next. >> good evening. i'm sophia wenzler with your headlines at just after 10:00. the fbi has given an update on the apparent assassination attempt on donald
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trump, saying they view this as extremely serious and are determined to provide answers. meanwhile, the secret service says they're providing mr trump with the highest level of protection, adding also that the suspected gunman did not fire any shots . earlier, 58 year old any shots. earlier, 58 year old ryan routh appeared in a florida court charged with federal gun crimes. reports suggest a secret service agent saw the barrel of a rifle sticking out from the bushes on the perimeter of trump's international golf course in west palm beach. according to phone records, routh was in the wooded area near trump's golf course for about 12 hours. trump, who is unharmed , has posted on social unharmed, has posted on social media saying it was certainly an interesting day back in the uk. disgraced bbc presenter huw edwards has been spared jail after admitting to accessing indecent images of children. but the judge said his long earned reputation is in tatters. it comes after the 63 year old was
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sent 41 illegal images by convicted alex williams over whatsapp. the court also heard edwards paid williams hundreds of pounds after receiving the images. now westminster magistrates court this afternoon, edwards was handed six months imprisonment, suspended for two years. it means he doesn't go to prison but is subject to a probation penod. but is subject to a probation period . in other news, the prime period. in other news, the prime minister has reaffirmed his commitment to cracking down on smuggling gangs after high level talks in rome. sir keir starmer met with italian leader giorgia meloni to discuss what he called italy's remarkable progress in halting mediterranean boat crossings. it comes after italy's recent controversial deal with albania to handle asylum claims. in a joint press conference, both leaders underscored their commitment to supporting ukraine and pledged to work together to fight human trafficking. >> the challenge of irregular migration. this is a problem
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across europe for both of our countries in particular, but across europe. as director of pubuc across europe. as director of public prosecutions in britain some years ago , i saw the some years ago, i saw the important work that can be done across borders on issues like counter—terrorism. and i've never accepted, as we discussed, that we can't do the same with smuggling gangs. and now, of course, italy has shown that we can. you've made remarkable progress working with countries along migration routes as equals to address the drivers of migration at source, and to tackle the gangs and junior doctors have voted to accept a government pay deal worth a rise of 22.3% on average over two years. >> the british medical association thanked junior doctors in england for voting, with 66% in favour of the deal . with 66% in favour of the deal. those are the latest gb news headlines. now it's back to patrick for the very latest gb
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news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . gbnews.com forward slash alerts. >> welcome along. keir starmer has obviously had enough of people swearing him at the races or dealing with sleaze scandals involving his wife's frocks. he's been to italy to see how they've managed to reduce illegal immigration. but there is a problem for starmer. do you remember when he said this? >> i'm worried about the far right. i'm worried about populism and nationalism and the politics of the easy answer. the snake oil, if you like . snake oil, if you like. >> yeah. well, it turns out that the really right wing italian government has actually got it right. here he is now, sucking up to meloni, made remarkable progress working with countries along migration routes as equals
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to address the drivers of migration at source and to tackle. yeah. so you just know, don't you, that if the italian leader was a tory politician in britain, starmer would be saying what an inhumane, soulless criminal she was in the run up to the election? sir keir starmer kept telling us i think that we can smash the vile gangs that we can smash the vile gangs that are running this trade, that are running this trade, that are running this trade, that are making a fortune putting people into boats and breaching our border security. >> i'm not prepared to put up with that and that's why i think the serious answer is to smash the serious answer is to smash the gangs . the gangs. >> well, it turns out he obviously didn't actually have a plan. and now gb news can reveal that human traffickers are openly laughing at him with an exclusively tell you that people smugglers are putting on an illegal migrant ferry service , illegal migrant ferry service, picking them up from various different points along the french coast. so it's not just calais and dunkirk. they are genuinely going along the coast
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picking people up like an uber service. okay. and they are doing pickups in ambleteuse, wissant and sangatte . and this wissant and sangatte. and this allows them to squeeze around 80 people onto a boat. the smugglers communicate using encrypted messaging services and they'll do several stops along they'll do several stops along the french coast before setting off out into the channel. and then waiting for border force to come and get them. 801 people crossed on saturday. that's the second highest daily total this yeah second highest daily total this year. germany is closing its borders and ramping up deportations. italy is essentially turning boats back and has agreements with third countries, both of those nations seem untroubled by the echr. our prime minister doesn't even really want to call it illegal immigration anymore. it's irregular now, isn't it? there's no deterrent anymore. starmer said he'd smashed the gangs in response. the gangs have set up a ferry service. they clearly don't fear keir starmer panel this evening we've got sketch writer and columnist at the daily telegraph. it's madeline
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grant. we've got journalist and broadcaster benjamin butterworth and the ex—chairman of the tory party sir jake berry. and the ex—chairman of the tory party sirjake berry. i will start with you and work my way down. so there is now an illegal migrant ferry service on the coast of france. so that's good, isn't it? yeah. >> i mean, i wish you were making it up. i mean, you actually couldn't make it up. this this crisis, which in all fairness to keir starmer, he inherited he hasn't created this to give the man a bit of a bit of bit of slack is just getting worse and worse and worse. and i think part of that is driven by the fact that he came into government. huge mandate given to him on the 4th of july, saying that he had a plan to smash the gangs. well, what has he done so far? he's redefined illegal migration to irregular migration, as you say. so what? but things that do matter is we had passed a law saying that if you come to this country illegally, you'll never be given asylum that's been overturned. we had a well—advanced plan to send people to rwanda before benjamin comes in. i know that we hadn't sent any. i think we'd
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sent a couple, but they'd volunteered to go. but in fact, it was there. and now the german government, apparently we read in the papers, is looking to adopt that plan and use the accommodation paid for by the british taxpayer as its biggest deterrent . and, you know, all deterrent. and, you know, all all of the deterrents have gone. and now we see him going over to see giorgia meloni. when i first he was third, he was going over to giorgia meloni. i thought he'd taken up his role as a prosecutor because she, under his definition, is far right. well, this is it. surely in britain she'd be sent to prison for the policy she has. she now wants to copy them. >> so he went to germany and he said, oh, you know, progressives of europe unite. but two days later, germany basically shut the borders and started ramping up deportations and picked up the rwanda policy. the rwanda policy. and now he's gone to italy, who i am convinced that keir starmer , by his own keir starmer, by his own definition, must think that melonis far right. >> it's pretty wild, actually. how out of step with the rest of europe we are, including governments that are actually socially democratic or centre left, are taking much more drastic action to deal with this
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crisis because they know how the pubucin crisis because they know how the public in their countries feel about it. and another thing that has come out of the meetings with meloni is that keir starmer is said to be quite tempted by italy's plan to process migrants in albania. so he was not okay with rwanda. but but albania seems a much better proposition. it's something that they're actively considering. i mean , it actively considering. i mean, it doesn't surprise me because fundamentally, until we can get to the bottom of the push and pull incentives, then nothing will change. you know, nothing will change. you know, nothing will change. you know, nothing will change and we will continue. the taxpayer will continue. the taxpayer will continue to be mocked in this way by these, you know , ferry way by these, you know, ferry trips going across the coast of france. >> i mean , this is this is just >> i mean, this is this is just a completely ludicrous situation, isn't it? and it's impossible for the french to now defend against this because you've just got migrant pick up points along the coast. they get them all in these boats and they ferry them out across into the channel. i mean, keir starmer is saying he's going to smash the gang.the saying he's going to smash the gang. the gangs don't care, do they, benjamin? >> well, clearly not because they've been doing it for years. the numbers 801 in 1 day is a lot, but it's no different to the last year or the year before that. so i really don't buy this
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idea that they're flicking through the labour manifesto, deciding when they're going to p0p deciding when they're going to pop over to britain. i think that's got nothing to do with it. and frankly, criticising him for working with giorgia meloni is absurd because it's his job to work with other democratically elected leaders or not democratically elected . or not democratically elected. you know, that's his responsibility as the british prime minister. so it's nothing like if she were the conservative leader or something like it. and they appointed a new head of a task force only today, i think in order, in order to smash these gangs. yeah. but look, the idea of what people like to jake's party had that you can just shout at the french and say, oh, aren't you awful? and somehow they'll want to work with you. clearly that was pretty flawed. >> but the thing about, sorry, the thing about the border force is that it's basically identical to a very similar force that the tories had before that was just called a different name. and keir starmer was just renamed this department and says, we've done something brand shiny and new and you haven't. you've just replicated the ideas of the last government that weren't. >> but it has got a new head. of course, who's in charge of locking everyone up during covid. so let's see how he does.
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he's effective. well, exactly. well, it did work. so let's see how he does with your government. but let's see how he does locking up people who are crossing the channel. look, i think what really sticks in my craw is this idea that they've abolished rwanda, which is very well developed and planes subject to very expensive. so we're going to say, well, it may be an expensive i don't think it's any cheaper to process people in albania. we hear that the government's thinking about morocco or tunisia as places the country doesn't matter. the principle of offshoring people as a deterrent is something that now the labour party has been forced to admit. they admitted it today, the home secretary said they were open to it is something that works. if it works , why did they cancel works, why did they cancel rwanda when we'd already spent all of the money to set up? and in fact, rwanda was better because if you were successful in your asylum claim, you stayed in your asylum claim, you stayed in rwanda. what giorgia meloni in rwanda. what giorgia meloni in italy do is if you succeed, you come back, in that case to italy , and it won't work. while italy, and it won't work. while we have a civil servants service and a home office that waves through 90% plus of people who apply for asylum, just come to
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britain. so that's no deterrent. we should have stuck with rwanda, benjamin. >> but i mean, it's wrong to say that labour has changed its position because it never opposed processing people in a third country. it was about deporting them there. that was the case before the election, and clearly they're still looking at it now. and also you say the fact that we accept 90%, well, then by definition, they're not illegal migrants . they're not illegal migrants. they have had a legitimate upheld claim to be here. and if you want to change that system, well, then you change the rules on what qualifies as a refugee. >> there's no such thing as an asylum seeker from france. they are not fleeing persecution. france is a safe country. they are from france. >> what do you mean, france? >> what do you mean, france? >> exactly. so why don't they claim asylum in france with a baguette? and you can't. you can't blame the french. and frankly, if you were a french politician and you had thousands of people in calais , you would of people in calais, you would go, off. you go britain. this way. soft touch this way. >> sign for dover. >> sign for dover. >> it's our job as the british >> it's ourjob as the british government to stop people coming to this country illegally. and i don't think, i think that keir starmer is cutting the mustard
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on the true dishonesty. >> is any politician that tells you that you can just fix this because you can't . and i think because you can't. and i think in the decades to come, this will become a bigger problem, not a smaller problem, because the ability to cross the world is getting easier. the structures, the technology is making it easier. and also there is things like climate change that are making swathes of the world unliveable. and those people are going to go somewhere. and i think politicians should be more straightforward about that. >> i would just say that australia had a policy of pushing back the boats and processing everyone far away from from the mainland, and it worked rather well. i mean, i'm not saying that we're obviously a lot closer to continental europe than australia is to the various islands that surround it, but i don't think it's fair to say that no country has ever solved this or got to the bottom of it. it just requires being harsher and firmer. >> and italy has done it. 62% drop in the number of migrants coming to italy in the last 12 months. they've done that. they went to other countries. >> but we are out of step, aren't we? in actually quite an astonishing way, considering we're the ones who voted for brexit. as a country. we voted for brexit. huge part of that
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for brexit. huge part of that for a lot of people was borders . for a lot of people was borders. and now you look at germany potentially shutting the borders, ramping up deportations , borders, ramping up deportations, what italy are doing now, we wouldn't be able starmer's wanted to stop us doing any of that stuff in this country or consistently hasn't he? and now he's going over there going, goodness me, you know, what you're doing there really works. yeah. >> it's mad. well, i think it owes most of all, actually, to the fact that other countries in europe predominantly have some kind of proportional representation , which means that representation, which means that politicians are are not insulated in the same way that we are by first past the post from people's true feelings about stuff. >> so it means that often you have parties of the radical right that are they're gaining ground in the in their, in their parliaments . and it means that parliaments. and it means that the parties of the centre right and the centre left have to listen. they can't just afford to ignore those desires, whereas the first past the post system insulates our politicians from the true feelings of the electorate. >> yeah it does. i mean, that's that's the loveless landslide, isn't it? that's that's what getting booed and called a banker at doncaster races looks
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like when you've got a majority of goodness knows what you know, there's that discrepancy there isn't there really. do you think that starmer is i mean is he going to. what? copy. meloni is he do you think what's the upshot of this actually going to be? we're going to work more with the albanians. >> do we think that's certainly the signals coming out of them today? but i think we might be a bit more inventive because albania, it's taken some time. there's been a challenge. there was historically a challenge in the albanian parliament against this because guess what? people who live in albania don't want all these people sent there. so i think the most likely thing is that we will copy the policy, but do it somewhere like morocco or tunisia or another north african country. >> i mean, albania is very sparsely populated. so, you know, they've got plenty of space. >> france, why don't they stay there? >> i think i mean, look, we already have the deal with the boats and albanians coming here, being sent back to albania. that was already a success. so clearly there's a precedent for the two governments working together. and albanians tend to be rather fond of the brits for our, you know, our history. 25 years ago, helping their people. so i wouldn't say it's
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impossible. yeah. >> i mean, i think from memory, the albanian leader is worried that the albanians are losing too many men, that they're all they're leaving, but they mainly go to germany. >> there's a huge brain drain up to germany from albania and kosovo and those countries. >> well, there you go. all right, well, that'll do us for the first section of this show. i've got a heck of a lot more to talk to you about, because i'm going to be bringing you tomorrow's front pages at 10:30 pm. sharp. and next, though, p.m. sharp. and next, though, we're going to be discussing how the winter fuel raid is impacting one gb news viewer. it's just part of a basket of measures, really, that are about to make it a desperately depressing winter, really, for the elderly. we're going to have more old people living in poverty than ever before. and if you want to try to do your bit to just help out, you can go to justgiving.com forward slash page, forward slash, save our seniors. we're raising a bit of money for friends of the elderly , money for friends of the elderly, and you have got it up to £46,840, which , considering we £46,840, which, considering we started this at 9 pm, is
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amazing . thank you, thank you, amazing. thank you, thank you, thank you, friends of the elderly. what they do is they help old people in urgent need so they can get them food. they can get them white goods, they can get them white goods, they can pay their utility bills for them. and that a huge demographic of people that they are going to help this winter are going to help this winter are people who just missed out on the winter fuel payments. so maybe they're like 1 or £2 over the pension credit thing . so the pension credit thing. so they're going to be disproportionately affected. they've got a busy winter ahead. so thank you very much everybody for helping them out a little bit there. but yeah we're going to talk to one gb news viewer very, very shortly about some of the impacts that the winter fuel raid is having on her. so don't miss
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okay so here on patrick christys tonight, we are not letting the scandal of the winter fuel cut go whilst, this country has got loads of pensioners who will be choosing sadly between heating and eating at the same time, that highly paid train drivers are going to be enjoying their pay are going to be enjoying their pay rise thanks to rachel reeves? or should that be rachel freeze? given what we're seeing happening with pensioners, the decision is allegedly to try and plug decision is allegedly to try and plug a £22 billion black hole in the public finances. but isn't it funny that the people shouldering the burden of these savings are the people who are least likely to vote labour? every single other party represented in the house of
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commons are opposing this measure. on the winter fuel payments. our political editor, christopher hope, sat down with lib dem leader sir ed davey at their party conference earlier today. their party conference earlier today . and he said something today. and he said something okay, that video will be with us in a bit, apparently, right. okay. so, look, i'm joined here by my panel this evening, look, when it comes to these winter fuel payments and stuff. now, i get that there is a case for that. there should be means tested and all of that. but it's part of other wider measures, isn't it? as i think, given the impression that keir starmer has essentially gone to war with old people. >> yeah. and i think if you're concerned about this, you should be really, really concerned about the budget that's coming down the line. there's been silence about the older person's bus pass, which of course people say they get free travel. yeah, it's free for them. but actually the bus company gets paid for every single person who uses their bus pass. so they are the lifeblood, particularly during the daytime of rural bus services and bus services in
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smaller towns. so if you lose the free bus pass, we'll see our bus services decimated across this country. there's of course , this country. there's of course, silence about whether pensioners will retain their free prescriptions. they're of course, much more likely to become ill and be reliant on prescriptions. that would be very concerning. but the thing that terrifies people is this idea that they may abolish the 25% discount on your council tax that you get for being a single person. that would be labour's granny tax , and i do not think granny tax, and i do not think they would recover from behaving that way towards the most vulnerable in our society and pensioners. i just think that is something people are really, really concerned about. >> it's the it's the widow tax, isn't it? and again, look, i just want to say i thought, i thought we'd try and do something about this. i wanted to try and just do a bit of a fundraiser that is live now. it's just giving.com/page/save our seniors. last time i checked that page, we'd raised more than £46,000, which is fantastic. so thank you. that money will go
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towards grants for old people who fall on hard times, £51,313. i mean, that's an amazing achievement. thank you so, so much. you are going to save lives this winter where people are having to choose between heating and eating or unable to get to doctor's appointments, etc. that is what friends of the elderly do. they go and help them out in that situation. so thank you, thank you, thank you. and benjamin, look, you know, you can see things like that can't you with that fundraiser there. well clearly that's, that's, that's sparked something in the public keir starmer doesn't get that does he. >> yeah, he absolutely does. because, you know, the fact is that there are pensioners, a couple of million of the 12.5 million pensioners who are in real poverty, who have probably lived in a degree of poverty for most of their lives. and of course, when you get to pensionable age, that becomes more acute because you can't you can't take any money in, and those people should be helped. i find it strange that you know that almost 30% of pensioners who are millionaires have not been saying, well, i want to give my £300 to the ones who are really suffering. now. i think rachel reeves probably should have set up a fund for those
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people to taper the edge from the pension credit , because i the pension credit, because i think, you know, there's no getting around that. and this is what this fundraiser will do to help some of those people, hopefully. >> but i think i think that you can't pretend that we are in a situation where we can give £1.5 billion to people that don't need it, and i find it £3.1 billion. the labour government borrowed, in the blink of an eye, to pay their union mates, so they can't sit there and simultaneously be talking about giving junior doctors an appropriate level or train drivers or train drivers. >> i think people should be paid. >> brilliant isn't it? no that's great. so the person who does that on the train now 70 grand a yean that on the train now 70 grand a year, 77 grand a year. oh, are we stopping again? are we? yeah, we stopping again? are we? yeah, we are 77 grand a year. massive pension. great stuff. meanwhile, ethel's freezing to death in her living room. shocking >> the money isn't going from one to the other. i think that's a ridiculous distortion of the situation. and the fact is, you know, behind closed doors, conservatives are really impressed by what keir starmer is doing. >> because what how many conservative houses are you rocking up to? what are you doing? >> they all say he's just they say he's got he's a snappy
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dresser. >> i'll give him that. he's a snappy dresser. >> the hypocrisy of giving out hundreds and hundreds of millions of pounds to millionaires from the states. oh, come on, you either believe in what liz truss says. the state should be small or you don't. >> okay. >> okay. >> all right, look, i think it's for me. there's a psychological thing here that generation of elderly people are probably the least likely to want to put their hand out. whereas we have a younger generation who are more than happy to do that. everyone signed off on something or doing whatever. they know exactly where the benefits are and whereas you've got older people there who i think are the least likely to want to try because they might not think, oh, there's someone always worse off than me. well, not necessarily actually . and they should. >> why do you hate young people so much? i don't know why it has to be at the expense of someone. you can just say that it's wrong to deprive all, but the absolutely the most poor pensioners of their winter fuel payments without having it be kind of at the expense of snowflake youngsters or whatever. i mean, young people have had a lot of what they what were historically their benefits cut to. i mean, you may remember dunng
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cut to. i mean, you may remember during the coalition years, it was the educational maintenance allowance was one of the things that got cut overwhelmingly. it was spending on younger people that went and it was spending on pensioners that was protected. i mean, i'm not saying if that's right or wrong, but just, you know, that is how the trend generally has gone, because old people tend to vote in greater numbers than young people. so it makes more sense to court them. >> i think they should unionise i feel like they should unionise the only problem is they can't go on. >> they can't go on strike, can't they? because i think young retired a lot of young people. >> i think, have also had a torrid time, and i think it is about to get even worse for young people, because when the kind of my parents generation, the boomer generation, when that generation has stopped working in a completely retired, there was obviously a big demographic bulge at that point because so many people were born after the second world war. when that generation retires, we'll have a very small pool of working age people to pay for it. so i think young people are going to have an even worse time. >> and that's why we need more refugees, because you need people going to work to pay the pensions. >> do you know how much it costs per refugee? we're not sure i read the story, but i don't accept it. >> 150 grand per refugee and half £1 million per refugee.
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it's just if they live until 80. but the real issue is here we go. look, it's not a zero sum game. maybe we shouldn't be taking it. well, if it is a zero sum game, let's not take money away from young people. we give tens of millions of pounds to india. yes, they have a space program. they have sent a rocket. >> you're about to enrage indian twitter. something britain has never been able to afford to do for ourselves . for ourselves. >> we give money to india, and they use their own money to send a rocket to the moon. we give money to china. we give money around the world while pensioners are freezing to death. >> it's true the foreign aid budget bring money home. >> bring that money home. and if you want to save a pensioner's life, you can go to justgiving.com/page, forward slash, save our seniors. i've got loads of stuff planned for the fundraiser in the coming weeks , so i'm afraid you're weeks, so i'm afraid you're going to be hearing quite a lot about it from me at 55.5 grand is what we're up to now. thank you very much, everybody. i'll go into a lot more detail, probably in tomorrow's show, about exactly where this money is going to be spent, what it's going to be done with. et cetera. et cetera. coming up at
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welcome back to patrick christys tonight, and it's time to bring you the very first look at tomorrow's newspaper front pages. so let's do it. the metro lucky hugh bbc news anchor avoids jail over child sex videos, edwards called images amazing, the court said rafe , amazing, the court said rafe, there is anger at the soft sentence , he paid a lot of money sentence, he paid a lot of money for some of these pictures. 41 of them were were believed to be illegal. the i they've also gone for huw edwards avoids jail over images of child abuse. and they say the chief magistrate, paul goldspring, told edwards that his long earned reputation was
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in tatters. apparently, the next paper that we're going to be looking at is the daily telegraph they've gone for starmer defiant over piers freebies. there's a picture there of lady starmer and she's just wearing a wearing a really nice outfit that looks expensive doesn't it. >> you know, i'm so glad you got that right though because the papers keep calling her lady victoria. and it's not, it's lady starmer. >> oh, right. okay. well, that was sheer luck. okay, so the daily express reputation in tatters over child abuse images verdict on shamed former bbc presenter huw edwards has avoided jail. and just to round us off, the mail, they've all really kind of gone off on the huw edwards story. disgraced, reviled but not a day in jail as huw edwards walks free despite horrifying new evidence of his crimes, madeleine, should he have gone to prison, i think so, i mean, i think that it's crazy that the judges appear to treat this particular crime . this particular crime. >> there seems they seem to be going soft on anything where there has been paedophilia, but
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not, you know , actively not, you know, actively involving. so it's something watching material rather than actively engaging in paedophilia. however the material that you're watching and paying for involves a real child , real children in this child, real children in this case who have been trafficked and abused in the most grotesque way. so i think i don't really understand why the courts seem to take a dim view, as they do of this particular form of paedophilia . paedophilia. >> yeah. ben& jerry's what's your thoughts on this? i mean, the individual that he actually purchased the pictures off didn't go to prison either. he got suspended. so i think most people really knew that he wasn't going to go to prison. huw edwards but people probably think he should have done. >> yeah. i mean, it wasn't a surprise for the reason you just gave.i surprise for the reason you just gave. i think, you know, most people acknowledge that this is the ugliest crime imaginable , the ugliest crime imaginable, and it seems uncomfortable. it seems wrong that such a horrific crime doesn't get a prison sentence . on the other side. sentence. on the other side. i think one of the odd things about the nature of the crime is that putting someone behind bars can stop them doing it for a penod can stop them doing it for a period of time, but does it stop
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those perverse impulses? well, it doesn't, and so is it. the way to prevent future victims is the psychological help or. i've long thought that castration is appropriate for because it takes away the urge. there's a louis theroux documentary where you look at how they do that in the us. i think that is a more appropriate way to deal with these people, because it is a heinous urge that they should be removed of to save the potential future victims or the ones they've had. but what i'd say about the prison sentence is that it matters that this is huw edwards. it matters that he was on a pedestal, that his whole life benefited from privilege and from power. that that position as britain's most popular newsreader brought him, and that allowed him to exercise some of this abuse, to be able to persuade this man potentially to persuade this man potentially to engage with him, to pay him up to £1,500. the court. >> it's weird, isn't it, because apparently this particular individual reached out to quite a few people in media, and huw edwards was the only one who replied to him. yeah. do you think the bbc has got a lot of questions to answer for? i mean,
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they continue to pay him, didn't they, whilst he was off? well, i think they've, they have asked him for some of the, the £200,000 he was paid after they knew about these allegations. >> they've asked him for it back.i >> they've asked him for it back. i would suggest that they should be doing a bit more than asking him for it back, look, this whole thing has just been another appalling scandal hitting the bbc. and if we talk about that 200,000, it's not their money. it's our money. yeah, the money we've paid in a licence fee, you know, they just do not seem to be able to get this right. they seem to be myopic completely when it comes to their own talent about bad behaviour. and i think i would have think huw edwards should have think huw edwards should have face to face the custodial sentence. but the other people i would like to see in the dock is the bbc for repeatedly allowing these sorts of individuals like jimmy savile to hide in plain sight in our in our national shame. >> don't forget that there have been imprisonments from people not paying their licence fee. yeah, you know, not failure to pay yeah, you know, not failure to pay your licence fee could see you in jail. but, you know, engaging in, viewing videos of
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featuring paedophilia is treated very differently. it's almost treated like the kind of sentencing that the kind of mitigations that would apply to someone who had any kind of mental illness, you know. well, yeah. >> and apparently some of the, some of the magistrates comments certainly raised eyebrows. it's all very well and good saying your reputation is in tatters and all of that. but, you know, there's apparently as part of mitigation, at one point, his lawyer tried to make the case that because he went to cardiff university and not oxbridge, he always felt like an outsider. at the bbc, which i'm sure he did. but the solution to that is not to go and engage in. no, no, exactly. you know , it's not what exactly. you know, it's not what was what i couldn't couldn't quite work out what that was supposed to mean. so he felt like an outsider. so he he went and looked at naughty pictures of kids. it's weird, isn't it? but, anyway, so. so there we go. anyway, right now this is a bit of a screeching gear change, but we were hoping to speak to one gb news viewer called sue in cheshire, and we have now been
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able to get hold of sue in cheshire . sue, thank you very cheshire. sue, thank you very much. it's a pleasure to meet you. it's a pleasure to have you on the show. and i was in cheshire today actually, and drove back. i was there seeing my grandma over the weekend. so we you never know we might have crossed paths. sue but, i did want you to come on and have a little bit of a chat with me about about what's going on for you this winter, because we've seen things like the winter fuel payments being scrapped, haven't we? and there's a few other bits and bobs, heading down the track. so i was just hoping to, to see how you were getting on. really. sue, what's going to happen with you? >> well, i'm going to lose out because, i'm just. well, i, i've got a state pension. and if benjamin would like to know that not every pensioner has £11,502 as an annual pension , i'm on as an annual pension, i'm on bafic as an annual pension, i'm on basic pension simply because i was born before 1953. so i'm on £8,800 a month a year. sorry so i've got a pension from my bank,
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and after 30 years there, i actually get paid less every month than the state pays me on bafic month than the state pays me on basic pension. so i just about scrape up to 15,000 a year. so obviously i'm not going to, qualify for pension credit, right? >> which is amazing. really and, when it comes to , you know, when it comes to, you know, november or december and the temperatures do start to drop, have you had a thought about what you're going to do in that situation? are you are you going to be able to put the heating on. >> do you think i haven't got any heating? my boiler is broke, so i've got to try and find the money for, for a new boiler , money for, for a new boiler, otherwise i've got, i did last year really? as i sit and watch the telly in bed, basically i go to bed at 6:00. i have my tea, go to bed at 6:00 and stay there until perhaps 9 or 10 in the morning the next morning when i can get dressed and put warm
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clothes on. that's how i, you know, i dealt with last year, >> i mean, it's remarkable to hear that. and i'm very sorry that you're in that situation. i do hope i do hope that we can help to raise a bit of money, and we have got a justgiving going on at the moment. it's just giving.com/page, forward slash save our seniors that i think last time i checked it was something like £55,000, which we've raised in the last in the last hour and a half, which is no mean feat really. so thank you everyone who's who's donated. but but sue, you know , donated. but but sue, you know, doesit donated. but but sue, you know, does it feel to you like this is all a bit unfair? you know, you've you've presumably worked hard all your life. you've you've paid in, you've done your bit and, you know, here you are now getting into bed at 6 pm. because you, you can't put the heating on because you can't fix your boiler. >> yeah. i paid into the i paid the national insurance stamp for 40 years , and i only get £169.50 40 years, and i only get £169.50 a week. now whereas others get
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200 and odd pounds a week if they're on, you know, if they're if they were born after 53 or 51 after 51, if you're a bloke. so, you know, i think it's totally unfair. and, benjamin always thinks that us pensioners are all wealthy. we don't need to earn any money. you know , we earn any money. you know, we should go out and work again if we if we are short of money. but that's not possible when you've got a gammy knee and you can't walk along. i've even looked at, you know, doing bar work and stuff. i couldn't stand that long in the evening. you know, just, just, just quickly sue, if that's all right. >> do you mind letting me know what roughly what your weekly food budget is ? food budget is? >> £15 a week , mostly, yeah . >> £15 a week, mostly, yeah. good grief. >> okay . all right, i mean, >> okay. all right, i mean, that's impossible, surely. what do you eat? >> well, i, i eat steamed
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vegetables in the morning. i have a yoghurt and a couple of tangerines and a cup of coffee. then at lunchtime , i have two then at lunchtime, i have two rounds of brown bread with something on it. rounds of brown bread with something on it . and then at something on it. and then at night i have a bit of chicken, and some frozen steam fruit. steam frozen vegetables. >> look, i really i am really, really, really glad that you've come on and told us your story because it is a very brave thing to do. and you have hammered home to a lot of people. i think if there was any doubt whatsoever about what the reality is like in modern britain, for people who i think are our greatest generation. so i want to say a massive thank you, sue, that just giving us just giving.com/page/save our seniors and sue look i, i really would , hope to maybe point you would, hope to maybe point you in the direction of friends of the elderly , which is the group the elderly, which is the group of people that we are. >> well, i wouldn't take anything like that. you know, i
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think i'm still young enough at 70. well, i'll be 73 next month. i'm still young enough and strong enough to, to sort of weather the storm sort of thing. you know , this is the mindset. you know, this is the mindset. >> this is the mindset, sue, that i absolutely love. but i wish sometimes you know , there's wish sometimes you know, there's other people who don't mind, who don't mind claiming things. you know, every now and again and obviously people of, of your generation are possibly the most reluctant to do that. so thank you very much. and i would like to stay in touch with you as well and keep having chats with you like this. so you take care. so thank you very much. that's sue in cheshire. >> nice to meet you. >> nice to meet you. >> nice to meet you as well. all the best. okay, right. okay okay. okay. so sorry. i've run roughshod over all the timings of the show this evening, but you know what? who cares? coming up, my panel will be putting forward their greatest britain union jackasses. but i just want to give you an update on the fundraiser. it's up to £61,000. gb news viewers and listeners, i am convinced, are amongst the
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most generous people on earth. thatis most generous people on earth. that is a remarkable sum of money in such a short period of time. tomorrow i'll be telling you all the different ways that money is going to help. i'm going to be doing a couple of bits and bobs as well, a few stunts along the way to try to and try and probably put myself in massive physical discomfort at some point for your own entertainment, and hopefully we can raise some more money. so it's all for friends of the elderly who give grants to people who are in need anyway, right? okay so this is patrick christys tonight. we are only on gb news and an instagram influencer goes where few others would bear .
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after apparent assassination attempt on trump, they've also got the big picture there of huw edwards his mug shot. and apparently khan to ban traffic from struggling oxford street. so apparently sadiq khan is thinking of pedestrianising oxford street in london. so that's quite an interesting development, i suppose. let's go to the times your reputation is in tatters, huw edwards told as he spared jail . working at home he spared jail. working at home boosts productivity, says laboun boosts productivity, says labour. so there we go. the business secretary takes an aim at presenteeism. we couldn't possibly be present, could we? oh, how dare we be present. tell you what, though, keir starmer's wife was very much present at the shops, wasn't she? because she's looking, you know, she's she's looking, you know, she's she's dripping from head to toe in designer clobber and that i was paid for by a labour donor. and then she attended fashion week. you just couldn't make it up, could you? but let's go to the sun now. they've gone
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straight down the line with this one. hue outrage , massive one. hue outrage, massive picture of his mugshot. the word sickening underneath it. he's not sent to jail. he asked for more videos, apparently, you know , obviously we all know the know, obviously we all know the horrific details of the huw edwards case, right? okay let me zone in a bit on, on some of these stories that are here now, i mean, we've got working at home. boost productivity, says laboun do home. boost productivity, says labour. do we do we believe that? >> well, i think that maybe there are some businesses where it works for those businesses and employees and others where it doesn't work so well in some industries more feasible than others. but it kind of i find it a bit alarming that labour is making a blanket judgement about across the economy. it raises productivity. i don't think there's any evidence for this, certainly not that you could make some kind of sweeping statement about the virtues. >> but isn't isn't there a point like we should have presenteeism? we should like isn't that not a good thing to have in life? turning up, turning up, you know, being there where you're supposed to maybe, dare i say it, maybe, you
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know, looking smart or presentable, like that's maybe a good thing in life. >> a lot of young workers, you know, you learn a lot from being in the office. it's where you meet your seniors, the experienced people. you make connections that are very helpful. if you go to a promotion, it's really difficult to get that if you're not physically in the office. but on the flip side, there are going to be lots of people. maybe they've got young kids, maybe they've got young kids, maybe they've got young kids, maybe they've got caring for an elderly relative, where being at home and having that choice is going to make their work life a lot easier. >> but isn't that a choice of to work or not to work? so i've got three young kids and most people, you know. but, but, but isn't the point that you can't be looking after your kids and working at the same time? that's why i don't buy that. it increases productivity. and look what private businesses do. that's up to them. but when my taxpayers cash all of our taxpayers cash all of our taxpayers cash all of our taxpayers cash has been used to pay taxpayers cash has been used to pay people, i think there's a legitimate expectation that people go into the office. >> so can i point out it was it was your government that closed down lots of civil servant offices and forced people to work from home because, yeah, dunng work from home because, yeah, during the covid pandemic, that was four years ago. >> britain needs to get back to
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work. we are one of the least productive countries in europe, britain, get back to work under the coalition, they closed down loads of government offices and that was one of the reasons why they ended up needing people to work from home. >> no problem for me with labour's plans is that they are not essentially saying to businesses, you decide between you and your employees, you come to the arrangement. >> they're saying there has to be a blanket offering of the ability to work from home to all employees and to all businesses. so that whole making broad generalisations about the entire economy, it's got the it's got the whiff of the first steps towards a four day working week about it, i think. >> anyway, right, okay. we're going to have to be rapid with this now. i'm afraid it's time for the greatest, britain's union jackass. maddie, can you just start with the greatest person, please? >> okay, you're probably not going to agree with me on this one, but i have nominated sir ed davey, the leader of the liberal democrats, for the simple reason that i think he made a really important intervention today. he basically spoke out because it's been reported that keir starmer is hoping, hoping to expedite assisted dying through parliament. i think whatever your views of the virtues of
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that particular argument, it's definitely not something that you want to rush through parliament. it needs to be properly debated and properly discussed. ed davey spoke out about it, and he's also bringing in the fact that he's a full time carer for a disabled son. so i think he brought his personal experience to bear and actually , i think probably the actually, i think probably the policy would be more popular with his party than not. so i'm not even sure necessarily stems interest. so i fair play to him. i think for yeah good stuff. >> good stuff. okay. >> good stuff. okay. >> good stuff. okay. >> go on. my greatest briton is the journalist scarlett howells and the team at the sun. >> the way that they had the backbone and the determination and the resource to expose huw edwards when the bbc and so many other people in positions of power had knowingly looked the other way for so many years. so to those journalists and to the mum of the original teen in the story, i think they are exceptional. and to break down the barriers of those powerful men in the media who abused junior people and get away with it. i think we should really admire the sun. >> all right, good stuff. >> all right, good stuff. >> okay, so rosie duffield is a
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well—known labour backbencher who has taken on her own party over the winter fuel payment. in fact, she said that their plans around the winter fuel payment could lead to people dying. she'd been contacted by a constituent who had cancer. her doctor had told her to keep warm and she couldn't afford to heat her home. she is on the side of right, and it's a very brave thing to do, to take on your own political party. yes. >> okay . all right. well, there >> okay. all right. well, there we go. i don't think we're going to have time for union jack , i'm to have time for union jack, i'm afraid. but today's great britain is rosie duffield mp, for standing up about, about the winter fuel payments . so. well winter fuel payments. so. well done, well done. now it's just time for a very quick update on the old fund raiser. so just giving.com/page/save our seniors . giving.com/page/save our seniors. it's up to £64,700. it's an amazing effort. that money is going to friends of the elderly who do grants amongst other things by the way for people who are struggling a bit, especially in the run up to winter, they are expecting that this is going
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to be, one of the worst winters, that they've had more people in poverty than ever before. i think, you know, it's time. i just wanted to try to do something to try to take the burden off people this winter. thank you very much, everybody, and thank you for watching and listening at home. i will see you wonderful people tomorrow at 9 pm. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on . gb news. >> hi there and welcome to the latest forecast from the met office for gb news. it was missing throughout much of the summer, but higher pressure has now arrived. there will be some cloud in places, but for most it's clear spells through the night and during the next few days under this higher pressure. that's centred over the uk. that's centred over the uk. that's pushed a cold front south, but another weak front will move into the far northwest overnight. that's going to bring some thicker and lower clouds. so fairly murky and damp in
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places. louis harris sky as well as shetland seeing some light and patchy outbreaks of rain elsewhere. clear skies under those clear skies. temperatures falling 2 to 4 celsius in some sheltered spots across central and southern uk. a few mist and fog patches. first thing, they're not going to last soon enough. clear skies and sunshine return across the uk. that is, except for the northern isles and the far north and northwest of scotland, where it will be a grey, misty and damp start in places. best of the sunshine across scotland will be through the central belt of eastern scotland and northern ireland, seeing some decent sunny spells . seeing some decent sunny spells. but for much of southern scotland, england and wales it's blue skies from the word go. and that's how it remains effectively throughout much of the day. some patchy cloud, most likely across east anglia and the south east kent seeing a fair amount of cloud moving in. but for the north and northwest of scotland, the cloud actually thins and it turns brighter into result. north east scotland low to mi and it turns brighter into thins and it turns brighter into
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gb news. >> good evening. i'm sophia wenzler with your headlines at 11:00. the fbi has given an update on the apparent assassination attempt on donald trump, saying they view this as extremely serious and are determined to provide answers. meanwhile, the secret service says they are providing mr trump with the highest level of protection, adding also that the suspected gunman did not fire any shots earlier, 58 year old ryan routh appeared in a florida court charged with federal gun crimes. reports suggest a secret service agent saw the barrel of a rifle sticking out from the bushes on the perimeter of trump's international golf course in west palm beach . course in west palm beach. according to phone records, routh was in the wooded area near trump's golf course for about 12 hours. trump, who is unharmed, has posted on social media saying it was certainly an
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