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gb news. >> good evening. i'm sophia wenzler with your headlines at 11:00. the fbi has given an update on the apparent assassination attempt on donald trump, saying they view this as extremely serious and are determined to provide answers. meanwhile, the secret service says they are providing mr trump with the highest level of protection, adding also that the suspected gunman did not fire any shots earlier, 58 year old ryan routh appeared in a florida court charged with federal gun crimes. reports suggest a secret service agent saw the barrel of a rifle sticking out from the bushes on the perimeter of trump's international golf course in west palm beach . course in west palm beach. according to phone records, routh was in the wooded area near trump's golf course for about 12 hours. trump, who is unharmed, has posted on social media saying it was certainly an
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interesting day back in the uk. junior doctors have voted to accept a government pay deal worth a rise of 22.3% on average over two years. the british medical association thanked junior doctors in england for voting , with 66% in favour of voting, with 66% in favour of the deal. >> it was an essential first step for us to cut waiting lists and reform the nhs that we ended the strikes that were plaguing patients in terms of delayed operations, appointments and procedures , and also causing procedures, and also causing misery for junior doctors who should feel optimistic and confident about the future of the health service they're working in. so to have achieved this deal, a fair deal for patients, a fair deal for taxpayers and a fair deal for junior doctors so quickly will be a huge course of source of relief for everyone across the country. >> the health secretary, wes
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streeting, speaking there. now, in other news, disgraced bbc presenter huw edwards has been spared jail after admitting to accessing indecent images of children. but the judge said his long earned reputation is in tatters. it comes after the 63 year old was sent 41 illegal images by convicted alex williams over whatsapp. the court also heard edwards paid williams hundreds of pounds after receiving the images. at westminster magistrates court this afternoon, edwards was handed six months imprisonment, suspended for two years. it means he doesn't go to prison but is subject to a probation penod. but is subject to a probation period . the prime minister has period. the prime minister has reaffirmed his commitment to cracking down on smuggling gangs after high level talks in rome. sir keir starmer met with italian leader giorgia meloni to discuss what he called italy's remarkable progress in halting mediterranean boat crossings. it comes after italy's recent controversial deal with albania to handle asylum claims. in a
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joint press conference, both leaders underscored their commitment to supporting ukraine and pledged to work together to fight human trafficking. those are the latest gb news headlines. now it's time for headliners >> for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . forward slash alerts. >> hello and welcome to headliners. it's your first look at tuesday's top news stories with three comedians. i'm one of them. andrew doyle. but josh howie and nick dixon have not written any books, so you don't really qualify as a top comedian? >> no, i mean, surely that would be a top author, would be the top author, comedian, intellectual figure. >> there we go. josh gets it. >> there we go. josh gets it. >> i think i am an intellectual figure, just not quite on the same level. >> no, the books are all in your
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head. they're waiting to come out. >> he's written like two and a half books. >> i've got a substack, you know, and this is before i came out. >> so two and a half books. >> so two and a half books. >> what does that mean? >> what does that mean? >> well, you wrote that silly one. doesn't count. >> let's move on. sorry. before everyone starts insulting each other. that's the one i've read. we're going to have a look at the front pages. why is that? and the telegraph is leading with starmer defiant over piers freebies. the telegraph has got working at home boosts productivity, says labour. the mail has the huw edwards story. disgraced, reviled but not a day in jail. the express. reputation in jail. the express. reputation in tatters over child abuse images. the guardian has got suspect charged after apparent assassination attempt on trump. and finally, the star. they're not eating the dogs. those were front pages . right. we're going front pages. right. we're going to kick off. it's the big story of the day in the mail. and josh howie has the details. >> indeed . disgraced, reviled, >> indeed. disgraced, reviled, but not in jail. this is huw
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edwards, who has been now convicted for possessing. they call it making or something like that. that's the technical term, because if it's on the phone, it counts as making. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> and, he's not going to jail. >> and, he's not going to jail. >> so we knew he'd already been found guilty. so it was just a matter of waiting for the sentence. a lot of people suspected it would be a suspended sentence. and what's quite striking about this? there's a lot of understandable outrage about it. but of course, actually, this is very normal for this kind of crime. for a first offender. this is actually completely standard. now the question is, is that right? >> no . is the answer. it's >> no. is the answer. it's morally wrong. what he has done is not a victimless crime. and he should be punished. he should see the inside of a jail. certainly. and this opens itself to comparisons of course, with this whole two tier idea of justice system where you have people posting things not good things, posting bad things
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onune things, posting bad things online on facebook, deleting them immediately, and being in jail for, you know, a couple of months or whatever. and that's for when you compare about all these other sort of other crimes and you see the jail time that people got, it's ridiculous. so the fault is obviously the system and, and the sentencing structure. >> so inevitably that's going to be a big question. you know, as you say , some people have said you say, some people have said some horrible things and have gone to prison. i still don't think they should go to prison for saying horrible things and memes and that kind of thing there about you. and, well, the ones about me, they they could go to prison. but nick, that is a problem, is it? you've got people posting memes saying, misinformation and the judges are making an example of them by sending them to prison for two, three years, which i consider incredibly draconian. and frightening in a free society. and then you have someone convicted of possessing child who doesn't spend a day in jail. that's going to be the big question now, isn't it? >> that is it. and that's what i've been posting about today. we have a country where, as you say, you can, if you post your frustrations in a misguided way about three children being murdered, you will go to jail,
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sometimes for 38 months, for example. but if you have 41 images, sexualised images of children in one case a child between 7 and 9 years old, you will not go to jail. and those are the facts. now people have been pedantic about this two tier thing. they've been i've seen like lawyers and such onune seen like lawyers and such online saying, well, this is not two tier for the reason you mentioned that if that what's their justification? they're saying that if someone was tried in a similar case that huw edwards elle edwards one, they would have a similar sentence. oh yes. but that's not that's a straw man because that's not the question. the question is in the larger context of the riot, we're bound to look at it and say, it seems when there's a political element, people are punished far more harshly than when there isn't. and far more harshly than there should be. so it's not based on the severity of the crime. it's based on if it's political and it's not just huw edwards. >> lots of people for a long time have been noting cases where, for instance, people involved in grooming or sexual, misconduct, illegal sexual misconduct, illegal sexual misconduct haven't gone to prison either. so lots of people have been flagging this for quite a while in comparison to this. >> also, just like the resources
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that are applied to rape , you that are applied to rape, you know, rape prosecutions are to down almost nil, you know , all down almost nil, you know, all that money that was spent on these 24 hour courts and whatnot could be applied to a system to get more rape convictions going on. >> now, there's another question, nick, which is a lot of people are asking whether because huw edwards took a lot of money, was being paid while he was on suspended suspension from the bbc pending investigation. what happens with that money now? >> yeah, he still gets his pension, apparently. and they're saying it's very hard to take back the money to stop him getting his pension. apparently, bbc employees are even furious about it, as you can imagine. so that's disgusting as well . and that's disgusting as well. and by the way, i just want extra detail. one of the reasons the sentence is so light is there are mitigating factors like he's unlikely to reoffend. they say and also he had a mental disorder. i question did he really have a mental disorder or is that something he's claiming? i don't know. >> i'd say anybody who's a has got a mental disorder. well you could argue that, you know, i mean, i don't think that's ever a defence. >> it's like because if it were a defence, everyone would use
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it. >> i think they meant the stress and the depression and so on. surely and maybe i'm getting that wrong. >> but the analogy would be like saying that if you killed someone in a car and you say, well, i don't remember the event because i was too drunk or i was too on medication. that doesn't mitigate the crime, right? so we still we have to have the we have to try people for the crime, don't we? >> yeah. but i think that's one reason he had a lesser sentence as long along with this re—offending thing. >> first offence unlike by the way. yeah. they could have given him jail time. so you know with these mitigating factors and i read that same thread and they were like, well, this is what i kind of see. well then what you're seeing is a lot of getting away with it. >> yeah, that's also true. morally it's wrong anyway. >> yeah, it's the wrong sentence. he's not the funny thing. people say, oh, he should give back the money. isn't he a shame to take them. you know, he's been convicted of being a badenoch giving back the money. yeah. he's. what are you saying? >> he's not the moral paragon. he's not? yeah. >> he's not going to be like. oh, well, you got me on the money. i'll give it back. okay? >> we're going to move on. now, this is the other big news of the day. the guardian has this on their front page.
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>> yeah. suspect charged after apparent assassination attempt on trump. and of course, this is this ryan routh who everyone will know by now had tried to kill donald trump on a mar—a—lago golf course. and people are wondering how on earth was he able to get on there? he apparently camped out for 12 hours, but it's still it's still a question. this is 17 acres, you know, 62,500ft2. and it's got a big perimeter with like, heavy bush around it. i don't know how anyone how he knew exactly the right time. it's very well my understanding is the secret service have admitted that they don't have as much protection because it's a former president. yes, that's true. and that's one of the big problems. >> they did stop him and they were well, there were a whole ahead. or was it a policeman? >> a policeman spotted the gun. >> a policeman spotted the gun. >> the systems, the guns sticking out. >> the gun was sticking out of the bush. yeah. the policeman and the secret service go ahead by one whole ahead of trump. and they and they took him out. >> luckily, he wasn't being very good that day on golf. so >> well, he said he was. he said he was about to have a birdie putt and he had to stop because of this. but, he did say that. yeah. classic trump. so yeah. so this is this guy i mean the guardian insane and disgusting
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way managed to claim that trump added to the tension around the us election campaign by making highly inflammatory remarks, explicitly blaming biden and harris for the inciting the attack. so they're annoyed with trump for saying that they've inched trump for saying that they've incited the attacks, the attempts on his life. it's somehow trump's fault again, which is extraordinary. but i mean, that is that is like the classic victim blaming thing we had. >> it before with the last assassination attempt, where some of his rhetoric has been quite inflammatory. >> but this is rhetoric before. but the thing about him afterwards in the media that he was actually quite conciliatory and sort of seemingly i wouldn't say humbled is the right word, but he was like a unifier. he was. yeah. he was being like a unifying force. now here, i think i sort of disagree with you with this because i think that it you with this because i think thatitis you with this because i think that it is isn't helpful for him to be coming out immediately with this kind of rhetoric, calling them the enemy within. it just propagates what's going what's happened to him. >> he's never responsible for someone trying to kill him. >> no, no and no. absolutely. i'm not saying that. but what i'm not saying that. but what i'm saying is it's not helpful to to the diffusing what's going on here. >> but, you know, if you were if someone tried to kill you twice, you think you'd be like, well, i
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should be helpful. >> i mean, it's not just twice winning them as the enemy within as opposed to just nutters. there was a pretty dangerous incident in 2016. there's two recent incidents. there's actually about six when you add them all up. these are just the most recent. but look at all the things they've said about trump. i mean, kamala harris, trump is a threat to our democracy. and fundamental freedoms. they you know, biden has said it's time to put trump in a bullseye. they've said that he is an existential threat. there's a whole list of quotes trump released and how many times they've said this, he's just literally here called them the enemy within. >> so, i mean, it goes back and forth. >> that's that's retaliatory because they keep sending people keep trying to kill him. >> the point is, i mean, generally, i think the political discourse has sort of spiralled out of control anyway. i mean , out of control anyway. i mean, this man has been called a fascist for years. he's not a fascist for years. he's not a fascist . to call fascist for years. he's not a fascist. to call him a fascist for years. he's not a fascist . to call him a fascist fascist. to call him a fascist is straightforward historical illiteracy. and if you say that about someone, there are all sorts of legitimate reasons to despise what trump does and what trump stands for. but once you start putting that kind of brand on someone, you do kind of raise the temperature to the extent i think that nutcases who are solely responsible for what they do, i'm not blaming anyone else,
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but it does raise the temperature to a dangerous degree, i think. >> i agree completely, and this guy ' >> i agree completely, and this guy , you're just waiting to set guy, you're just waiting to set people like this off. i mean, there's questions about some people saying he's, you know, it's deep state, other people saying he's just a nutter. but at that point, when there's so much rhetoric out there, it almost i think, i'm open to both, but it almost becomes, are you trying to put someone on the spot here? >> no, no, i mean, he just like to say some people it's interesting. >> well, do you know what it becomes? >> not immaterial, but it becomes almost the same thing because when you talk about a stolen election. okay. did they literally rig it with the ballots, or did they just rig it via the media via suppressing the hunter biden laptop story, etc? did they actually get someone to do this, or did they create such an environment where people are just randomly doing it? it's not the same thing, but it's not that that radically different. >> i mean, i tend towards the nutter nutter explanation. >> he was a nutter. i mean, in 2003 he was done for a gun charge. he had a machine gun, he had a three hour standoff with police. he was he was trying to send afghan soldiers smuggling into ukraine. he was. >> because surely if this was all planned. well, that would of course it does is give trump a
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big boost in the well. people are sort of saying, oh, how do they know you even said it yourself? >> how do they know where he was going to be and all of this kind of stuff? >> it just, yeah, but you also get people on the other side saying that trump orchestrated it. well no, it's like the guy even alastair campbell was posting. >> what? how come his ears regenerated? you know, you've got mad conspiracy theorists on the left like alastair campbell, but yeah, no conspiracy theorists on the left don't make mad conspiracy theorists on the right suddenly. okay, cnn said that trump we just stop with the mad conspiracy. this is an answer. cnn said that trump didn't plan to do this until the morning. so that is a legitimate question. how did he know it could be that there's a leak in the secret service team that would be less of a conspiracy theory. >> it could be that he was waiting his time and he got lucky, and it could be that as well. but the other thing i'd like to say about this gentleman, if you've seen the photo of him, is that he's got fantastic abs. >> yeah, he's also got his hair dyed, the colours of ukraine and mad eyes. he's the only person i've known. more obsessed with ukraine is leo kearse. other than that, it's just those two. >> as a man who is i mean personally on a diet, he had low body fat percentage. yeah,
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that's all i'm trying to say because for me that was the immediate thing i saw was like, and that should be the focus of this story and this discussion. that's that's my take. that's my hot take. >> i feel a bit shame that we didn't focus on that from the outset. thank you. let's move on now. we haven't got any more time in this section, but do join us after the break with starmer cosying up the far allegedly cosying up to his well dressed wife, and we
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welcome back to headliners. i'm andrew doyle and with me still are the power couple of josh howie and nick dixon. i'm not implying anything homoerotic, they're merely their comedic chemistry. now we're going to start with tuesday's mail. starmer has a new far right buddy, apparently, who's got this? he sure does . this? he sure does. >> giggling keir starmer looks around with giorgia meloni in rome. so yeah, this. there's quite a few elements to this
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story. i'm not going to read out the rest of it. but no, you'll be here all night if you read that. yeah that's that's what a proper headline. >> i'm just laughing now. giggling keir starmer it just sounds like a new trump nickname. >> the pm's giggled together. >> the pm's giggled together. >> so wait, just give us the background. he's gone to visit italy to see giorgia meloni. >> yeah, because, they have been very successful in lowering their immigration. over the last yeah their immigration. over the last year. i mean, there's a lot of critics who say, well, that's it, but. well, but she's she's done it. she's done it from 118,000, to 44,000. it's not bad. it's a fall of 62%. he wants to know how she's done it. i think that's a really good idea. of course, now, when she was sort of becoming known on the scene as when she was first mentioned in newspapers, as, you know, being the possible winner of the election, it was like she's far right. she's far right. now, that is of thrown around as a token. now there are there is evidence that her party certainly came from a sort of neofascist background or origin, but that doesn't make her. and she says she's very specifically avoided that through her
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political career. but that's but that didn't stop the newspapers. now, here we go. our left wing , now, here we go. our left wing, ostensibly prime minister is out there. their buddies, the left of his party, including diane abbott, have all gone mental going. he's hanging out with fascists. well, we've got diane abbott saying literal fascist. >> so within so within the labour party. now, diane abbott clearly doesn't know what a fascist is either. honestly, i could send them a book on this fascism for dummies. it's a really easy. you're just ten minutes. >> but he he has a responsibility, first of all, to have cordial relations with countries that are and certainly ones that are close by and also to learn from. if someone's done something to good learn what they've done now, what they've done good is essentially pay off, libya. yeah. and given them millions of euros to sort of go please don't stop, stop them. and they've done processing in albania. so that's the idea. and he's looking at the idea that's reminiscent of the rwanda scheme. well, the difference is that they would argue, is that they then would be able to come
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to the uk if they had gone through the process, whereas that wouldn't have happened in rwanda . but yes, it is the same. okay. >> now what? no, nick, this article seems to focus on the giggling aspect. i don't think there's anything wrong with two world leaders enjoying a joke at a podium , because that's all it a podium, because that's all it is. >> no, i used is.— >> no, i used to is. >> no, i used to think she had a special relationship with rishi sunak because they seemed to get on so well and they were always hugging and stuff. but now i think he just does this with all the guys. maybe because she's. yeah, i mean, so yeah, maybe she won. yeah, it probably helps. yeah. and so i think that's part of non—story. yeah. diane abbott calling saying that he's meeting a literal fascist , especially a literal fascist, especially when you realise that diane abbott said that mao did more good than harm on bbc. she said that, i mean, she's a literal communist. >> then the jewish people don't experience racism. >> yeah, but if you're a little communist, it's strange that you're still allowed to be a literal communist, but not a little fascist . anyway, she's little fascist. anyway, she's not a little fascist. yes, the party has fascist origins, but no one sees them like that now they're seen as populist, so that's silly. and labour getting in a getting getting their knickers in a twist about this is absurd, really. kim johnson here is saying that have we learned nothing from the tories failures? but he's trying to
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learn from their failures on immigration by getting serious about immigration and learning ways to tackle it. >> it's a good thing, right? >> it's a good thing, right? >> yeah. good >> yeah. good >> okay. well, we're all agreed big, big starmer fan. that's the first. okay. so we're going to carry on with the mail now nick. and is this admission too little too late. yes. >> it's france is not doing enough to stop migrant deaths in the english channel minister admits after years of blaming britain. so you don't often associate france with humility. but guillaume kasbarian, the outgoing housing minister, has said that they should do more. he said the questions about our migration policy, he's talking about questions, he said these are terrible tragedies, meaning the deaths in the calais which raised questions of humanity, but also questions of our migration policy. and so, whereas in the past, people like the mayor of wimereux, there you go. a bit of french has said that, has said that britain was responsible and said that we give them accommodation, food, a bank account and let them work without regulation, which is not totally wrong. i mean, we have been doing stuff like that, but surely the french have been
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responsible for lax security, not dealing with the illegal gangs that are based in france after all. >> i mean, we can't just go parachute in sas style and deal with their criminals. >> not a bad idea. >> not a bad idea. >> hundreds of millions of pounds, right? and they're not doing it. that's the difference. what's happening in italy is it's sort of working with them, giving the money to these other countries. we're giving our millions of pounds to france. yes. and they're not doing the job. >> so spending on croissant and baguettes was it, was it a microwave or something believe. >> yeah. from a story back in the day we had eight people died. yeah. on sunday, more people are going to die of course, already this year, i think it's 47. people have died and criminals are going to profit from their deaths. >> yes, continually. >> yes, continually. >> exactly. and france can do something about this. yes. they can stop the people from leaving their shores. yep there is a point to be made by this mayor who said that we're not doing enough to deter that, but it's got to be a two pronged approach. absolutely. otherwise, we're chucking hundreds of millions at them and they're not
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doing anything completely well. >> at least they're admitting now they just have to admit that they've got disgusting eating habits. i mean, what they eat every bit of the animal like unbelievable. and they talk weird. yeah, well, i wasn't going to speak english. i wasn't going to speak english. i wasn't going to speak english. i wasn't going to say, i love that we're allowed to have a go at the french. that's the one thing you're allowed to have a go at. yeah. >> no one knows if we're allowed. yeah. we don't know, do we? i'm just going for it anyway. >> we'll find out if you can't do it on gb news and have a go at. >> actually i went to holiday in france this year and it is a marvellous country. there we go. it's beautiful. >> bit of balance. >> bit of balance. >> absolutely beautiful. it's beautiful right. >> the times next. and josh where did you get that jacket. france. >> yeah. no. yes. this is about. yeah. so victoria starmer , pm's yeah. so victoria starmer, pm's wife, had £5,000 of clothes paid for by donor. and i haven't had a donor buy this jacket. >> five, £5. »- >> five, £5. >> it's a lovely jacket. >> it's a lovely jacket. >> thank you very much. >> thank you very much. >> what's wrong with primark? on a budget ? a budget? >> there's nothing exactly on a sale. it's like this. it's a bargain. i mean, unfortunately, i am not friends with the former owner of asos . asos, he is the
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owner of asos. asos, he is the man. lord ali. yes. who gave them this £5,000? he also gave about £20,000 of clothes to starmer. >> yes. is it cronyism though? is he seeking influence? >> well , he is he seeking influence? >> well, he gained influence. he got to have a party the first week or something. i mean that's why they're not giving it out of the goodness of their own. >> the claim is that he doesn't actually have influence with laboun actually have influence with labour. yeah but but he's obviously got influence one on one. >> and also i feel a bit uneasy about someone buying clothes for my missus. there is a larger discussion here to be had about whether the government should be giving a bit of money, because she's got to go to all these events. >> wait a minute. she's really minted. >> well, is she minted? >> well, is she minted? >> they're both in the top 1% of earners. i mean, come on. earners. i mean, come on. >> earners. i mean, come on. >> well she's not, but when you've got to do like a different dress, if you're representing the country and arguably she's going to america and got to look all. boo boo boo boo boo boo. >> it can be done. just go to debenhams. no you really don't need to spend a fortune. >> i think she's a very beautiful woman. >> i think. exactly. she doesn't need. no, i think that we need. that won't help. that would help
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more. >> nick, do you think that this is just a bit of a non—story? it's a bit overblown, isn't it? >> no it's not. it's the right amount. >> it's a mistake. you didn't know that this was a. >> it's massive. i'll tell you why. because one, because he's been going on and on about tory perks and all this kind of thing. all these mid beds on twitter who went on about boris's wallpaper and now just completely fine with this. and also dan hodges raised an interesting question. he said, why does starmer think he was going to get away with this after all his talk, after the hypocrisy? >> i don't think he meant to. i think it was a mistake. i don't think it was a mistake. i don't think he realised he was trying to get away with something. >> well, i think starmer just assumes everything he does is right. he lacks empathy. he's he's not that bright. >> he was meant to do it. >> he was meant to do it. >> he's used to all institutions, major institutions being on his side. he's used to the press giving him a ridiculously easy ride, telling him how great he is. so why would you have any self—awareness about these things? do the clothes look good? >>i good? >> i mean, that's the key thing i don't know. >> he got several pairs of glasses as well. >> yeah, well, they always look very turned out well. >> turned out well as a normal blue suit, like all politicians. now, if he actually had some genuine style and elan, i might
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say i can see where the money has gone. right. but it's just the same as all world leaders. that kind of drab davos brushes his hair. i mean, it's what i wear, but he's got hair. >> that's all i care about. >> that's all i care about. >> well, boris johnson didn't brush his. yes you know. >> so that's all you want in a world. well in a leader. yeah. >> or like margaret thatcher with that immaculate perm and someone somewhere is getting a good telling off for not sorting that out because it obviously shows him out to be hypocritical. >> and yes, it's going to haunt him. it won't haunt him. >> but josh, that tie really was was it a good choice ? was it a good choice? >> no it wasn't. >> no it wasn't. >> no. okay. >> no. okay. >> well i'm glad, thank you. >> well i'm glad, thank you. >> that was the elephant in the room, lord ali. >> yeah. lord ali, take your stupid tie back. you will have no influence here. >> yeah, we were all thinking it. i just i just said it out loud. that's the difference. and i'm candid. >> don't call into question this shirt, though. >> no, i mean, and i won't mention that i'm not wearing a particularly nice tie either. josh, the time's now settles a philosophical quandary. here we go. is the cat in the box eaten or not? indeed >> jd vance, this is the vp, candidate for america. my cat eating claim was all bull, he is saying that he created the story
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of the haitian migrants eating pet cats. and dogs. and the reason he's saying it, he said, and this is his this is kind of almost genius. he says he's creating stories. so the american media actually pays attention to the suffering of the american people . now, there the american people. now, there absolutely is a case to be made for calling attention to these 20,000 hates. and of course, migrants who are sort of imported into a town of 50,000. great. and the changes that's going to happen to that system, the legal system . but to have a the legal system. but to have a politician say , i yes, politician say, i yes, i knowingly lied, but i did it for the right reasons, takes politics to a whole new level by the way, nick and i have been sort of arguing online all weekend about this. all right, not whether or being cordial about this. >> he didn't know. i've not been arguing. >> nick, can i ask you, though, about that specifically? is that surely the story as described there by josh, you have a very small population. you have a disproportionate number of migrants coming to the town. thatin migrants coming to the town. that in itself is such a shocking story that you don't need to invent stuff about eating cats. >> the bottom line is i do.
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they're eating the dogs, i just want to say it again. the bottom line is he's not lying. the times is like a far left paper. now, he didn't lie. he's just saying he's brought attention to this story. that's what he means. he says he lied. he said, created the actual focus story. now here's the point. look at christopher rufo. he's posted a thing pointing out with video evidence that there are africans eating, >> africa is not haiti. >> africa is not haiti. >> yeah, yeah, exactly. eating cats in dayton. so dayton is the next town from springfield . so next town from springfield. so what we will find these cats eating in springfield is just a matter of time. directionally, it's completely true. but we have no proof from that. >> that was one person in that video. we have no time stamp on it. we don't know where trump is. >> the master of imagery. when he said, i'm going to build a wall, i'm going to get mexico to pay wall, i'm going to get mexico to pay for it. mexico probably weren't going to pay for it, but the imagery of building the wall was what worked with the imagery of they're eating the dogs has worked. it doesn't matter what anyone does. >> now, you can't seriously be saying it's okay to make up stories. so they are eating the dogs. >> they just they haven't managed to get evidence. it's like it took ages to get evidence that smoking kills you. they are eating the dogs. it's
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just that they haven't managed to find says they're not eating the dogs. no, no he doesn't. he doesn't say they're not. >> he said it. >> he said it. >> no, no. >> no, no. >> what he means is what i believe he means is they've had all these first hand accounts from people calling him because he's from ohio. yeah. he has all these first hand accounts of people calling him. he can't get it in a sort of way that's acceptable for the broadsheets. yet to say, here, here are six people eating it. it's quite it's quite hard to find. you'd have to get it, actually. pictures of them eating the dogs at the right time. but he's saying it is going on. he just doesn't have the exact proof that it's creating a story. >> and you know what? the thing is? it sets a dangerous precedent where you can't know, he said. >> meaning we're creating the american media, focusing on it. he's meaning, as he put the focus on okay, but isn't this a little bit like when there was that fake, that hoax about there was going to be a fascist march in london and hope not hate jumped on to it and said, you know, we're going to oppose this. >> and then afterwards, the head of hope not hate said, yeah, well, we know it's a hoax, but actually it's good because it drew attention to something positive. so therefore it's okay. i think we kind of double standards about this. can we absolutely. >> it's wrong. both sides are wrong. can't we? >> just like political discourse should be about first and foremost the truth. what or what
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is verifiable. and then we go from there. >> that's what people are saying , >> that's what people are saying, what they think is the truth. >> like if evidence comes out about people tucking into dogs. >> yeah, there are all these, there are all these calls about it. they're all there's this anecdotal evidence. what we don't have yet is the we don't have the dog and cat eating stats yet. we'll get them at some point. and then you'll be happy. >> we've been talking about this. >> we have anecdotal evidence from the community, from the lived experience of the community. but we don't have the stats. >> i think that there's hypocrisy here because i think if it was going around the other way and it was someone left saying something unsubstantiated that you'd be saying, this is disgusting, i'd be saying, they're eating the dogs, they're eating the cat, they're walking off with the geese. >> the town's geese, they're taking the geese. >> if nothing else, it's giving you the opportunity to do your trump impression. >> it's not even that good, but it's fun. >> it's better than mine. anyway, we're at the halfway point now, but the roller coaster is all screams from here with trump making a joke. lib dem ptsd and a a dress
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welcome back to headliners. it's your first look at tuesday's newspapers. we're going to kick off this section with the sun. and comedy is tricky . off this section with the sun. and comedy is tricky. nick. >> yes, indeed. as we've proved so often, elon musk deletes x post joking about assassinating biden and harris after backlash in wake of ryan. rather ruth trump shooting. so yes , musk was trump shooting. so yes, musk was responding to a post from doge designer who said why they want to kill donald trump . and musk to kill donald trump. and musk said, and no one is even trying to assassinate biden . kamala to assassinate biden. kamala with a kind of emoji saying. so what's the joke? >> i don't get the joke. >> i don't get the joke. >> i don't get the joke. >> i know it is intended to be a joke, but i genuinely don't get it. >> yeah, he said, one lesson i've learned is that if you say something to a group and they laugh, doesn't mean it will go down well on x, remember he does have asperger's. so yeah, he well, i think there's a few things that could mean the joke. he could just mean they're awful. i think he might mean that they don't actually have any power because biden isn't doing anything. he could mean that, you know, they're not even worth like, attacking because they're not they're sort of fake. or he could mean they're just awful, or he could mean, well, he could also mean is that
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it's funny how the violence only ever goes in one direction. and we're told trump is dangerous and he's inciting, but he never goesin and he's inciting, but he never goes in that direction. so there's a few possibilities. >> but i don't know. people are going to use this now and say that he was inciting violence and stuff. and i think that's silly because i think it clearly was a joke, but i don't i mean, i don't get what the joke was, but i do think it's also a bit of an own goal. i think a lot of people who are talking about this, you do need to be a bit more strategic and careful about what you say, because you're giving ammunition to people who want to criticise. >> anybody who says something like this on whichever side they are, is going to be used by the other side to then be attacked. it doesn't matter left or right which who you support and so it's but then and then there's going to be the hypocrisy where that people will complain against the person who they're against the person who they're against for saying it. and ignore their side. >> if someone says, i did it, i do hate and it happens all the time. i really hate people pretending they don't know it was a joke. yes, that that happens all the time on all sides. by the way. and that really makes me, i would say of that. >> yeah. no, you know what? i was going to say? i feel like
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the far left are worse for that. but actually i've seen it on the right and it is just it's like, come on. yeah. and even last night, kerry, we did a sort of special on kerry made an obvious joke, and the guy got all sort of like clutching his pearls some, some bloke in america over there. i can't believe the guy just said that. it was like a joke about jd varne. and then he went and made a joke after. oh yeah, it's like it's ridiculous when you make a joke. but yeah. >> and just on the other point, i don't it's not for good any for one's own side. if i'm on my side, let's say the fact that he shared that thing about starmer detaining people in the falklands, which was obvious nonsense. it took me three seconds to check. and he he posted that it was meant to be one of those 4 am. tweets from his private jet. so i do understand he makes mistakes, but it's not good. it's never good for let's say it's my side. you don't want people doing that because it discredits another thing. >> there is a lot of people putting fake stuff out there that's part of, you know, an open marketplace. so you have to check stuff. i mean, i always check stuff. i mean, i always check stories more than once, because i also know that mainstream media outlets lie about stuff. >> yeah, you have to sort of read. i still think it's the only place you can get news you
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can trust. >> gb news. >> gb news. >> it's right here. >> it's right here. i >> it's right here. i still think it's pales in comparison to the things they've said about trump. just to be clear, the rhetoric about trump, but it was not great also. >> so before you go, the fact he said that, oh, everybody laughed around me . yeah. because you're around me. yeah. because you're around me. yeah. because you're a billionaire. you're the richest bloke in the world. so what i might suggest to him, if he's watching, of course he's watching is, elon musk hire me to not laugh at you? i'll only laugh at the jokes you're good at, not laughing at people's jokes. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> be honest and discerning. or maybe just a bit mean spirited. no. >> yeah, well, look at that. maybe it'd be funnier. >> maybe you're going to move on now. josh, this is the independent has a tearjerker independent has a tear jerker for us. oh, is that just a jerk? >> it jerk . for us. oh, is that just a jerk? >> it jerk. i was diagnosed with ptsd over brexit. lib dem councillor says so. this is someone the lib dem conference is going on at the moment. someone the lib dem conference is going on at the moment . who is going on at the moment. who was this? this is antonio. antonio antonio harrison. she says, you know, i have not been in sudan fighting a war, but brexit has had a profound impact on me. it had so many effects on
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my on my physical body, and things that have come out since i lost my voice. many times. and they put that down to trauma. trauma and she talks about traumatic. >> yeah. it just isn't. >> yeah. it just isn't. >> she says a diagnosis of ptsd. so she was actually diagnosed with it. she i am european to my core. my identity has been npped core. my identity has been ripped out . it's like look i, i ripped out. it's like look i, i voted brexit. i did some marching. i actually was a member of the lib dems and went out and did all the flying. you did. josh i know, did you say you voted brexit? did you just say voted against? i voted against brexit. i thought i'd get brexit. it was so long ago. >> well firstly it was ages ago but. but the idea that you're disappointed like this is the thing like this is where all the derangement began. you know, we're talking about a debate about whether we're going to be about whether we're going to be a member of an international trading bloc that does not cause ptsd. >> i love the idea that she went to a therapist and lay on the couch and they said, tell me about brexit. >> she is a therapist. that's what's crazy. >> it says here, speaking movingly like this has to be the independent or the guardian speaking movie. this is the best bit though, she said to her daughter after the election this
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is the worst day of your life. imagine telling your daughter, this is the worst day. it's like, i'll be the judge of that and your trans, yeah, this is the worst day of your life. i mean, and then she said this, this sort of most remaining kind of class sentence she could ever have. she has a masters in international law. she should be international law. she should be in brussels like i was at her age. instead, she's stuck here. thatis age. instead, she's stuck here. that is everything that the when they talk about the populists, thatis they talk about the populists, that is everything we hate. >> we can go to brussels just to let her know. you can. by the way, you can do that, >> can i just ask? and it's a serious question. are they ever going to get out over this? and she has a property in marbella. >> she has a property in marbella that's now compromised as well. >> so she can't go and visit her mum who's in a grave. >> you know, i just think this this sad story in a, in a democracy, sometimes the way you vote wins , sometimes the way you vote wins, sometimes the way you vote wins, sometimes the way you vote loses and you accept it, and sometimes it gives you ptsd, sometimes it gives you if you're a lib dem . yes, to be fair, that a lib dem. yes, to be fair, that can happen. clearly all right, let's move on, this is the daily mail. now nick. and, is this a real dog or someone who just identifies as one? >> what a great question. yeah. row over . genderfluid
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>> what a great question. yeah. row over. genderfluid dachshund or dachshund, apparently. is the actual german. yeah, but apparently the germans, it's dachshund because that's the actual . but anyway. yeah. dachshund because that's the actual. but anyway. yeah. i'm surprised you wanted to say that. but anyway, wearing a dress costs taxpayers £63,000. lesbian social worker wins payout from council after she was disciplined for transphobic comment about cross—dressing dog. it's a bit complicated, but elizabeth basically said this is all nonsense. they they said, look, i've got this cross—dressing dog to raise questions about gender. and they were doing this annoying zoom call. it was all very woke. she came in with gender critical opinions. i normal opinions. and they said, oh, she's got these nasty opinions that were bad. and then the management even wrote a management instruction to her saying that to make sure your personal views and beliefs don't manifest themselves, even though that's what everyone else was doing. it's the classic thing that woke people do. they pretend their views are just the norm. >> well, that's the point, is that this this individual brought a cross—dressing dog onto the zoom call and said, i'm doing this to raise questions about gender identity. elizabeth pitt simply says that she has gender critical views. yeah. >> she said that dog should not
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be competing against women in women's sports, which is all being a change should not be in a rape centre. >> yeah, i actually think a dog in a dress competing in the 500m would be quite worth watching. >> that would make it better. it would make it make women's sports better. >> but the thing is like this is. >> so by the way, if she won big because they ruled that they then were discriminating against her, protected belief and she won a massive payout because ultimately they will never get this into their thick heads, that gender critical views are protected by law under the equality act. >> stop firing people and harassing people and bullying them , knowing you're going to them, knowing you're going to get sued and the people suing you are going to win. >> cambridge council. so now they've learned their lesson. we'll see if it actually goes in or not. they have to go to do some free speech course or whatever it is. yeah, but the best bit about this for me is when she said, she thought this was an appropriate place to discuss her views, and they were like, well , no, it isn't, discuss her views, and they were like, well, no, it isn't, i.e. they deliberately set up this space to have a debate. but the idea was that because she had a different opinion that it was it shouldn't be debated as long as she said the right views . exactly. >> they want to debate with
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everyone on the same side. yes, exactly. insane. okay, well, just the final section to go with a few questions. what's the third state? why should we be scared of chinese cars and do you need your parents to go
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welcome back to headliners. your first look at tuesday's newspapers . we're going to kick newspapers. we're going to kick off with this story about the manchester arena bomber but not the bomber. it's actually about someone dressing up as the bomber. this from the daily mail. nick, have you got this? yeah. >> so it's prankster who dressed up as manchester arena bomber salman abedi for halloween. faces being sent to prison. this was a guy. well, he's changed his name, actually, and moved to london because what he did was so unpopular. he faces potentially up to two years in jail . and he wore an arabic jail. and he wore an arabic style headdress. they're calling it with the slogan, i love ariana grande and his rucksack. that said boom and tnt. i mean
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bad taste doesn't even begin to cover it, but not criminal, surely? well, that's the thing. i've only just. i only just saw this, and i was like, i need to figure out what my view is on it. but basically my view is it's absolutely disgusting. it's not even there's no sort of even satire. these are children that were killed. so it's about as bad as it could be. but yes, i tend to agree we shouldn't go to prison. >> i think what i would say, though, is the children aren't the target of the joke. there has been a tradition among halloween costumes to make the most inappropriate costume. so, for instance, people go dressed as myra hindley or something, or as myra hindley or something, or as bill cosby or whatever. and you might say, yes, this is horrible and bad taste, but the people going to those parties know that that's the game. so i don't i'm not even convinced that. i mean, i certainly don't think a sick joke should go to court. anyway, i felt the same about the grenfell joke where people filmed the fake tower, which i thought was appalling and horrible, but i just don't think we should be criminalising anyone for attempting humour, even if we hate what they've done. what do you think? >> i agree it's not a prison sentence. >> no, it's a real tricky one
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because it's sort of it's you know, it fills you with revulsion to, to see that and to see that, to make any humour seemingly . i see that, to make any humour seemingly. i mean, look, you could make a joke out of anything. yes, but this isn't that and there isn't anything like there isn't a humour element to it. so it's that it's that horrible area where you meet something that you're revolts by, yet you have to have principles. you have to have principles. >> there is a certain type of joke which is based on a knowingness about how sick and inappropriate you know what? >> it's funny how you make it about context, knowing that he's going to a party. it's not that that makes it okay, but knowing the context of deliberately trying to be the most offensive costume that you could possibly. he won the prize, which wasn't yeah, he won the costume. really mention that in the article. it says he won the prize, but it didn't say that they they were deliberately meant to be as offensive or disgusting as possible. >> yeah. and i think as soon as you remove, it's like if you take a jerry sadowitz joke out of the comedy club and just type it as a tweet, that's suddenly horror, just really horrible. the problem is when you see the context, yeah, i don't have any
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friends, so i don't go to parties. >> it's very hard for me to relate to him. >> i hate parties, but when you put it like that, i do see the sort of sick joke idea. >> but even if we just everyone could agree that this is absolutely horrible, i just still think the police have no right to get involved. i really do, i agree, i agree he's changed his name, he's moved to london, he's changed his name. well, anyway, let's move on now. the telegraph and nick. what's this? is this a stephen king sequel? >> what's this? i guess this is the chinese electric car. >> this is the. >> this is the. >> or is it chinese? there you go. okay, okay, good. chinese electric cars could be weaponised in britain. so we've had basically this story before. theideais had basically this story before. the idea is they, you know, record data. it all goes back to china. you think you're just driving your car? actually, it's, you know, it's giving away secrets of the empire or something. i don't know. we've donei something. i don't know. we've done i didn't read it that close because we've done it before. and i just thought it's you can't don't accept any technology from china because it's all spying on you. just a bafic it's all spying on you. just a basic assumption. your pants are spying on you. >> there's the internet connected of things or whatever it is. internet of things, internet of things. so it's not
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just like the main engine of the car, like every little part has some connection to wi—fi and whatever. so the so the story that we covered about six months to a year ago was that the minister of defence, ministry of defence, was using these cars to as a sort of shuttle fleet. yes. now that what that means is, is that china, which has laws where their companies have to give information to the government. yes. we now have an outlet. yeah. of where our bases are and what times. >> and it sounds conspiratorial though, to sort of say there's chinese spies everywhere. >> but this is a deeper thing in terms of because in america they're putting a lot of tariffs on the import of much cheaper electric cars. yeah. here we're not doing that because we don't have an industry to protect, arguably. so, what that means is we're going to there's going to there's probably going to be a lot of these chinese cars yet. could they lock us all in? could they sort of take over the country during rush hour and keep us in our cars? >> that does sound like a stephen king film.
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>> yeah. and let's say give up your thirst for freedom like those drones they had in lockdown. that's what they will do. >> i mean, this seems very alarmist to me, but let's final it. finally, we'll end with this one. this is in the mail and, josh, would you like this for your parents? yes. >> is the answer. the rise of granny re—education camps where grandparents, have to learn the right way to look after a baby at the behest of their children, this is because parenting has changed, it used to be that parents back in my generation had the child, and then they would sort of leave them out, to sort of fend for themselves . in sort of fend for themselves. in the winter, the baby would come back with a wolf's cloak made out of wolf skin. and that's how we did it. that's how i was raised. now we actually love our kids , so we'd like our parents kids, so we'd like our parents to be able to know how to change a nappy. >> can i just say, because we've only got a few seconds, i totally disagree, i think it's disrespectful to the grandparents who perform a different role. it's a very valid role. someone here says they're worried. i need to know when i'm not there. they'll look after him in the same way that i will be looking after them. no you don't. it's a different way.
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they bring something different. as the grandparents. >> but at least we now know that josh was basically raised by wolves. >> oh, totally. >> oh, totally. >> we already we always suspected. >> we suspected that. absolutely okay, then. well, that's all we've got time for, unfortunately. but let's take another quick look at tuesday's front pages. so the telegraph is leading with starmer defiant over peers freebies. the times has got working at home boosts productivity, claims labour. the mail has the huw edwards story disgraced, reviled but not a day in jail. the huw edwards story is also in the express reputation in tatters over child abuse images. the guardian has suspect charged after apparent assassination attempt on trump. and finally, the star. this is the jd vance story. they're not eating the dogs. those were your front pages. that's all we got time for. unfortunately for tonight's show, thanks ever so much to josh howie and to nick dixon for being a wonderful panel headliners. he's back tomorrow at 11:00 with cressida, joining myself and nick. and if you're watching at 5 am. right at the moment, then please do
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america move forward? and israel was blamed for the october 7th attacks at a fringe event at a liberal democrat party conference. does ed davey, the party leader, now need to take . party leader, now need to take. action? so we've got an action packed show. sir keir starmer is on his charm offensive. he's been to germany, he's been to france, now he's in italy. will any of it rub off when an italian job turn up on our shores, or will once again, sir keir starmer bottle it? all of that to come. so get in touch with your thoughts on tonight's topics by going to gbnews.com forward slash yourself. but first here's your news headlines with sophia wenzler. >> martin thank you. good evening from the gb newsroom. it's just gone 7:00. these are your headlines. it's just gone 7:00. these are your headlines . junior doctors your headlines. junior doctors have voted to accept a
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government pay rise deal. that's according to the british medical association. the new deal will see the profession get a 22.3% pay see the profession get a 22.3% pay rise over two years. an offer that the bma recommended members to accept. and we'll bnng members to accept. and we'll bring you more as we get it now. in other news, disgraced bbc presenter huw edwards has been spared jail after admitting to accessing indecent images of children. but the judge said his long earned reputation is in tatters. it comes after the 63 year old was sent 41 illegal images by convicted alex williams over whatsapp. the court also heard edwards paid williams hundreds of pounds after receiving the images at westminster magistrates court this afternoon. edwards was handed a six months imprisonment suspended sentence for two years. it means he doesn't go to prison but is subject to a probation period . now the prime probation period. now the prime minister has reaffirmed his
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