to the british medical according to the british medical association. the new deal will see the profession get a 22.3% pay see the profession get a 22.3% pay rise over two years. an offer that the bma recommended members to accept. and we'll bnng members to accept. and we'll bring you more as we get it now. in other news, disgraced bbc presenter huw edwards has been spared jail after admitting to accessing indecent images of children. but the judge said his long earned reputation is in tatters. it comes after the 63 year old was sent 41 illegal images by convicted alex williams over whatsapp. the court also heard edwards paid williams hundreds of pounds after receiving the images at westminster magistrates court this afternoon. edwards was handed a six months imprisonment suspended sentence for two years. it means he doesn't go to prison but is subject to a probation period . now the prime probation period. now the prime minister has reaffirmed his commitment to cracking down on

smuggling gangs after high level talks in rome , sir keir starmer talks in rome, sir keir starmer met with italian leader giorgia meloni to discuss what he called italy's remarkable progress in halting mediterranean boat crossings. it comes after italy's recent controversial deal with albania to handle asylum claims. in a joint press conference, both leaders underscored their commitment to supporting ukraine and pledged to work together to fight human trafficking. >> the challenge of irregular migration. this is a problem across europe for both of our countries in particular, but across europe, as director of pubuc across europe, as director of public prosecutions in britain some years ago, i saw the important work that can be done across borders on issues like counter—terrorism. and i've never accepted, as we discussed , never accepted, as we discussed, that we can't do the same with smuggling gangs. that we can't do the same with smuggling gangs . and now, of smuggling gangs. and now, of course, italy has shown that we can. you've made remarkable progress working with countries

along migration routes as equals to address the drivers of migration at source, and to tackle the gangs and in the us, the suspected gunman, in an apparent assassination attempt of former us president donald trump, has appeared before a court in florida. >> ryan routh is charged with federal gun crimes, possession of a firearm by a convicted felon, and possession of a firearm with an obstructed serial number. reports suggest a secret service agent saw the barrel of a rifle sticking out from the bushes on the perimeter of trump's international golf course in west palm beach. according to phone records, routh was in the wooded area near trump's golf course for about 12 hours. trump, who is unharmed, has posted on social media saying it was certainly an interesting day . those are the interesting day. those are the latest gb news headlines. more in an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news

alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . slash alerts. >> thank you sophia. now we've got an action packed menu. let's get tucking in. top story tonight prime minister sir keir starmer has been meeting with his italian counterpart giorgia meloni. today in rome, the prime minister layered praise on the italian government's strict approach to migration. >> the challenge of irregular migration. this is a problem across europe. you have made remarkable progress working with countries along migration routes as equals to address the drivers of migration at source and to tackle the gangs, and as a result, irregular arrivals to italy by sea are down 60% since 2022. so i'm pleased that we're deepening our cooperation here, showering praise on miss

maloney. >> i thought they all thought she was far right. anyway. italy has been pursuing a tough approach to illegal migration involving turning boats back and agreeing to an offshore processing agreement. of course, with albania. so what can our prime minister learn from italy's approach to illegal migration? well, to discuss this, i'm pleased to be joined by the former director general of the uk border force, tony smith. tony, welcome to the show. always an absolute delight. here's my problem with sir keir starmer going to italy. he's already been to germany. they closed their borders and they decided to nick the rwanda deal they decided to nick the rwanda deal. france we pay them half £1 billion every year. we don't seem to get much out of that. and the point with italy , tony, and the point with italy, tony, is that they actually turn boats back. is that they actually turn boats back . they gave ,100 million to back. they gave ,100 million to tunisia. the same to libya. and they've got a 60% reduction in their illegals arriving because they actually tow boats back to africa. i put it to you, sir

keir starmer has no appetite to do anything similar with the country where most of our illegals come from. that is france. prove me wrong. >> i'm not going to prove you wrong, martin. you're absolutely spot on. well done . that is why spot on. well done. that is why the 6,064% actually, this year , the 6,064% actually, this year, reduction across the central med route is precisely been delivered. it's because the italians, maloney and also ursula von der leyen, went to negotiate new deals in the north african coastline. and they are turning boats back there . turning boats back there. they've invested in the coast guards both off of italy and, sorry, both off of libya and tunisia . a lot of money has gone tunisia. a lot of money has gone in there. and so essentially, yes, there's a different policy, isn't there , in terms of eu isn't there, in terms of eu maritime interdiction on their southern border on the mediterranean to the one that we're seeing closer to home on the english channel, where we know the french policy is quite different, isn't it? they're not prepared to take boats back. they're not even prepared to rescue them unless they're in

really dire straits, rather to escort them to the uk. so i do think we need to call the eu out on this and say, what is the difference if we're into the business of saving lives, then should we not be doing the same thing on our english channel? and you know, intercepting boats and bringing them back to france , and bringing them back to france, which is a safe place and that is a fundamental of british law and of international maritime law rather. so i really do think that, that you're on to something with this. and i think we do need to say, well, why are why is it okay in the mediterranean, but it's not okay in the english channel. >> and the next key point, tony, is that if we if we solve illegal migration from the african subcontinent to italy , african subcontinent to italy, it won't make a toot kahoot difference of what makes it to our shores. because the simple matter is, when you look at the nationalities who end up on our shores from france, it's the afghans. they're the number one. it's the iranians, it's the turks, it's the iraqis . they turks, it's the iraqis. they come from the poorest land border to the east. they're not coming over the sea. it's a very

different route. and tony, what about putting this on top? germany has just decided to close all 3400 miles of its borders. so what happens to those people that come from turkey that can't get into germany? i put it to you. they're going to start coming to calais. next destination britain. >> well, there are a very significant number of migrants already in the eu. martin. i think about 900,000 are still waiting for a first decision on an asylum claim. a number have been given a notice to quit. they're still in the eu. they're still going to want to come to the uk. the smuggling lines are still very much there. the business model is still very much there. as you and i have discussed before, the only way to actually remove the incentive to actually remove the incentive to cross the channel is to get back into removing people . we back into removing people. we need to send people somewhere. so i had to smile when i saw this arrangement with albania, because actually i think they picked that up from our idea that we had with rwanda . and, that we had with rwanda. and, you know, i am an advocate of the rwanda plan. i think that that was shut down far too early, if offshoring is the answer. we went a very, very long way down that route. and

when this government was elected, the first thing they did almost before they were elected was to say, well, we're going to shut that down. it seems to me rather odd that we're now going to italy to see look at a proposal, because it's not running yet, martin, but a proposed plan, which would be a similar kind of arrangement for offshoring with with italy. slightly different. i accept, because they are saying, you know, if your application fails, you will get in. whereas rwanda, you will get in. whereas rwanda, you would have stayed there anyway, whether or not you qualified for asylum. so it's slightly different. but i do think the rwanda model was probably the better one of the two, and i'm rather disappointed that they were so hasty in closing that down. personally >> okay. excellent stuff. always an absolute delight to share your expertise on the show. that's tony smith, the former director general of uk border force. always a pleasure, tony. thank you very much. now let's cut back to the studio where i'm delighted to say i'm joined by my panel. and as gb news senior political commentator, nigel nelson and amanda bogle, the chairman of the global britain centre. gentlemen, welcome to the show. let's start with you , the show. let's start with you, nigel, as because we know you're a bit of a leftie . let's start a bit of a leftie. let's start with you. do you think? well, i

think we've established that there's no there won't be any chance this side of a cold day in hell of sir keir starmer agreeing to tow boats back to france as meloni is doing with boats that depart from tunisia or libya. but could there be a deal where britain adopts the albanian scheme with italy, where our asylum seekers, illegals, whatever are processed offshore in albania, not rwanda, but albania? could that happen? yes, and that's one of the reasons that keir starmer went to italy to actually have a look at that scheme. >> i mean, the way that it works, it is very different from rwanda. so the way it works is that it's a process . it's that it's a process. it's a processing, method . so only processing, method. so only people who come from safe countries will go there. no kids, no sort of young families or anything like that. they will go to albania, two centres there and italian, italian workers will actually process them. the albanians won't. they provide

the security. the premises, that kind of thing. if they're granted asylum, they go back to italy completely different from rwanda, where even if you've got refugee status in rwanda, you'd have ended up having to stay there. so these so the system is a lot better. it's not ideal that you mentioned about how meloni deals with tunisia and libya, the detention camps in libya, the detention camps in libya are pretty awful because by stopping the boats coming across the people who would have gonein across the people who would have gone in them, but they're fleeing war zones. >> they fear for their lives. what's the detention centre in the desert? >> well, in libya, pretty awful. tunisia. different, different term, different case. british holidaymakers go there all the time. i mean , tunisia is a safe time. i mean, tunisia is a safe country and so she pays a load of money to try and deter people coming , of money to try and deter people coming, people leaving of money to try and deter people coming , people leaving those coming, people leaving those countries for italy . countries for italy. >> eamonn berger, let's turn to you. do you think that would be an acceptable compromise? the offshore processing in albania offshore processing in albania of british illegals? and do you think that's a potential ever

going to happen under sir keir starmer? never. >> well, the simple thing is you cannot trust a word that comes out of sir keir starmer's mouth because simply the fact is, look , because simply the fact is, look, he came out against the rwanda plan on day one. he scrapped it on day one. we have a home secretary who has stood there with a placard saying refugees welcome. now, we all know that these people are not genuine refugees. number, number three. well, what's more meaningful is, well, the uk is already the second biggest spender of foreign aid in helping those in need at source . there is no need at source. there is no reason why the uk should be the world's refugee camp. >> okay. and the bigger issue i mentioned a moment ago there nigel, was if we are seeing other tough action in italy , other tough action in italy, germany closing all of their land borders, if people can't get into those countries, well, it makes sense. like a tube of toothpaste, they're going to be funnelled towards calais. they could get a lot worse before it gets any better. >> certainly they'll have to go somewhere. but i mean, bear in mind what the draw factor is for

britain, which is not i mean, the refugees are all over the place. most refugees are in their neighbouring country anyway. but but they come here because they speak english, so they think that they might be able to get work once they get this end, or they've got relatives or friends in this country. so it is unlikely that somebody who doesn't have those various things will make their way to calais. >> do you think i mean, the number one destination for illegal immigrants across the 27 member states is germany, but 2.2 million in the past nine years, they've had a terrible, terrible problem with with just the crime rates and also islamist terrorism. so now they are basically going full farage. they're closing their borders. this is germany, the spiritual leader of the european union. even they've realised we need firm action. it was germany who welcomed in 2 million syrians ten years ago. >> and to their detriment. and as you say, they've gone full circle. but i think that's what we need in this country. we need a full, complete emergency brake

on all immigration, be it illegal or legal. we have 9.4 million of our own people who are economically inactive at the minute. and let's be honest, we have no idea who these people are who are coming into our borders illegally. but more importantly, looking back at what starmer thinks he's going to do . well, the clues in the to do. well, the clues in the terminology that his regime has brought in, which is not calling it illegal, calling it irregular immigration, it's not it's not to illegal cross the channel. >> that's the point. well, it is not. >> we have a border. >> we have a border. >> no it's not. we have a border. it's not the that under the refugee convention, that refugee convention is no longer valid. >> that was built up. >> that was built up. >> it is valid because because this country is still a signatory to it. and that's why we must leave the echr. but crossing, the crossing the channelis crossing, the crossing the channel is not illegal. you could become an illegal migrant having crossed the channel if either you don't claim asylum or your asylum application is turned down. >> i would argue that it's quite ludicrous that you have tens of thousands or hundreds of

thousands or hundreds of thousands of people taking advantage of that situation. crossing the border from france to our borders, who are clearly not fleeing war zones or conflict zones or i mean, look, let's be honest , there are let's be honest, there are nearly a billion self—acclaimed refugees across the world. where do we draw the line? do we accept them all in? >> well, germany. germany. nigel is drawing the line by saying if anybody illegally in their definition . now, if you arrive definition. now, if you arrive without paperwork, without proof of id , without a passport, if of id, without a passport, if you arrive at the german border from any of the surrounding nafions from any of the surrounding nations without the paperwork, you're deemed illegal. that's what they do in hungary, by the way. and if you don't have your paperwork, you're not in. you're classified as an illegal. surely we could do the same here. if you arrive at calais without a passport, you're illegal. clear off home again. >> we do. so you would face. if you come in without papers, you can face up to four years jail. >> well, that never happens. no no, it doesn't. >> it doesn't happen. but that's what. but that's. but asylum trumps that. so if you come in and claim asylum until that

application is turned down, that you can you can stay here. that actually applies across the world. because again, we're back to the refugee convention. >> and final word to you, sir. >> and final word to you, sir. >> and final word to you, sir. >> and that's where we need a huge reform of the great blob thatis huge reform of the great blob that is the home office. with 74% of people being granted asylum. well, we need to have a great further look at the people granting them that asylum. i mean, i know for personal examples very much so that a number of people i know have claimed asylum have got it, but they're not genuine refugees. >> there we go. maybe it's time for firm action. nigel eamonn, thank you very much. a great start to the show, nice and lively. thanks to my panel. well, last night for the second time in only two months, donald trump has faced another suspected assassination attempt on his life. more on that after the

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leader on military thought leader on military reform. he founded blackwater worldwide, a private military corporation , after serving as corporation, after serving as a us navy seal . wow, what a guy. us navy seal. wow, what a guy. his podcast is called off the leash with erik prince, and i'm delighted to say erik joins me now. erik, what a man you are. now then i'm assuming that you would have a few choice comments on the security. for starters, around donald trump. how on earth can a presidential candidate go and play golf? and we find that this guy has been camped out in the woods with a gun for 12 hours, waiting for his man. >> he was camped out. how did he have any idea? because the trump golfing was not on any public schedule. how did he know to set up on the golf course that day ? up on the golf course that day? he was clearly trophy hunting. he was clearly trophy hunting. he had put two ballistic plates against the fence mounted them, and he mounted a gopro. why? because he wanted to film himself assassinating donald trump. he wanted to be a hero of

the left . it is disgusting. the the left. it is disgusting. the vitriolic language demonising him like hitler has activated every crazy left wing nut job to try to take a shot at him. and the one thing i have to correct donald trump wasn't just shot at in butler, pennsylvania. he was hit it, bloodied his ear, and he was about an inch and a half from having his his life taken. i mean, it was an extremely close there. you can see the picture . gopro on the top left. picture. gopro on the top left. two ballistic plates, rifle propped there , ready to fire, propped there, ready to fire, from the from a point where i think he was set up, it was about 150, maybe a 200 yard shot. very, very well within effective range of that rifle with the scope. >> yeah. so that rifle there erik prince, it was fitted with the scope. so you're saying that shot to a relatively decent marksman would have been pretty straightforward. i want to go back to a point that, erik, an excellent point you made about

the frenzy that's been whipped up around donald trump for years now . best part up around donald trump for years now. best part of nine years from way back in 2015, on the run up to the first presidential election. and today , donald election. and today, donald trump has spoken out and he says he blames the rhetoric of people like kamala harris and the highly inflammatory language that surrounded his political career. do you think that's a fair point? this demonisation of donald trump, as you say, is radicalising people to the point where they think it's a good idea to pull a trigger on him. >> the apocalypse, the apocalyptic language. if donald trump is president again, then democracy ends and it all steps must be taken to prevent that . must be taken to prevent that. all steps, even some have said he must be eliminated. it's ridiculous . these words clearly ridiculous. these words clearly have consequences. it's activated these people on the periphery to say, i'm going to make my life relevant by killing donald trump . and i guess it's donald trump. and i guess it's not going to stop until they actually suffer consequences for that. whether they are dragged

into court or, if something happens to trump again, the consequences in american society will be apocalyptic. that's i'm afraid i'm sure of. >> so, erik prince, what needs to be done? i mean, joe biden today was saying that the secret service should be fully available to donald trump to try and protect him. this is twice . and protect him. this is twice. now, twice is more than a mere coincidence. do you think there could be another attempt? and what would you do as a security expert to put a ring of steel around donald trump? >> well, look, the last time trump , when they took a shot at trump, when they took a shot at him in pennsylvania, there was four times as many secret service agents assigned to joe biden's wife, about an hour away in pittsburgh, pennsylvania, than there were assigned to donald trump. a you know, she has no constitutional role at all, what they need to do is obviously increase the quality and the quantity of the secret service agents around him, especially on the advance team. you have to come at this with a predator's view. if you come at

it with just a law enforcement defensive view, they're always looking for evidence, looking backwards. you have to say, look at the ten ways i'm going to kill donald trump and plug every one of those holes. and so whether that's sending, people from the special operations community from from seal team six or from delta , there's lots six or from delta, there's lots of ways to do that. but the problem is , like every other problem is, like every other federal agency in america , the federal agency in america, the bureaucracy has gotten so large, the unaccountability has gone for so long that you have a large blob of an organisation where you have maybe 5%, 10% of the people trying to do a great job carrying all the water. and the other 90% are largely useless. and until you debride that wound, you have a festering problem. and that is, you know, they're zero for two. but for heaven's sakes, how many more is it going to take, because we have a true constitutional crisis. if the leading candidate for president who's likely going to win has been targeted not once, but twice, that has never happenedin once, but twice, that has never

happened in american history, not in 247, 48 years. >> and eric, could i quickly ask you, shots were fired towards this would be assailant, ryan routh. he escaped. he got in his vehicle. eric prince, if you'd have been on the security detail, what has happened to him? >> well, there was four shots fired. i'm sorry. they were not effective rounds, but i'm really grateful to local law enforcement that they actually caught him. they they got a picture. they picture they pushed immediately to the license plate. readers immediately to a helicopter. and they caught the guy . great job they caught the guy. great job on local law enforcement. i implored governor desantis of florida to seize control of the investigation, because that's how bad our federal government is at actually closing the loop on these. they've memory hold butler, pennsylvania, all the details. how did this guy get explosives? all the rest that actually took a shot at trump and wounded him, it's time for the states to do a much better job and displace the federal

government, who is clearly incapable of doing that job. >> okay . eric prince, absolutely >> okay. eric prince, absolutely fascinating. thank you so much for your time there. the founder of blackwater worldwide, a private military corporation. excellent guests. thank you very , excellent guests. thank you very, very much. now, quickly, let's return to our studio and knock some ideas around with my panel. sorry i took so long with him, but what a fascinating fella. nigel nelson and ammon bogle, let's start with you, a man. what do you think? i mean, twice is more than a coincidence. surely it could happen again. >> absolutely. i think three quick points to make. first of all, look, this is democratic backsliding in the world's most happening democracy for so long, the fact that they cannot protect the former president and the expected president in such a serious, serious way. number two, i would say that as our guest said, this is serious from the marxists and the white house kamala harris, the radicalising language that she has used against president trump. and number three, so for example, i was in india with a couple of british journalists in may for the indian general election, and they were our nomination rally

for prime minister modi, 100,000 people there, not a single untoward incident and not a single arrest. now, if they can organise security for the world's greatest democracy in india, what's stopping the united states from doing so? >> well, what is the answer to that? nigel nelson why do these things keep seeming to happen to donald trump? and that could well happen again. and back to that point is the rhetoric of kamala harris. the american media contributory to all this? >> i don't think it's kamala harris. is rhetoric, but there is rhetoric around which has contributed. and the biggest danger now is copycat attacks , danger now is copycat attacks, obviously. so i think that eric was absolutely right about that. it would encourage other people to take a punt at at trump as well. the answer, obviously, is it seems pretty fairly obvious he should have total secret service protection. >> yeah. and it seems extraordinary that this guy knew he was going to be playing golf at that. >> they need to find out how that could have happened at that time. >> he was camped out for 12 hours undetected. you know, this is one of donald trump's own

private golf clubs. this fella's camping with a machine gun and body armour and a scope and a camera to film it all for 12 hours. many, many, many questions needs to be asked , and questions needs to be asked, and i think we have to leave that one there. brilliant debate. thank you very much to my panel. now, coming up next, our political editor, chris hope, sat down with the leader of the liberal democrats. but before you doze off, he was asked if he wants to reverse brexit. you will not want miss his next, there's ed davey coming in on

welcome back to gb views tonight with me martin daubney. now then, conference season is finally upon us and this weekend has seen the liberal democrats in brighton, of course, with its leader, sir ed davey, arriving on a jet ski. there he is. he loves a bit of water sports, as he said. now, if you recall, under david's leadership, the party has returned to being the third largest political force in

the united kingdom. the party now, of course, boasts 72 mps. the best result in the party's history. and our political edhon history. and our political editor, chris hope , spoke with editor, chris hope, spoke with sir ed davey earlier today, where the liberal democrat leader reaffirmed the lib dems position of rejoining the single market and a fully inclusive youth mobility scheme. >> is sir keir starmer wrong to rule out joining the single market or customs union as part of it, as he attempts to get a closer deal with europe? >> well, we've said that the government needs to be more optimistic and that should include the long term objective of getting back in the single market, because what we've got to do with our relationship with our european neighbours and friends is rebuild that trust. it was completely broken and shattered by the conservatives. it'll take some time, but you have to have the objective of getting back into the single market. the uk has a youth mobility scheme with japan , with mobility scheme with japan, with south korea, with australia. >> that's under 30, canada under 30s . 30s. >> but it appears that the government's ruled out having

one of those with europe, even though that's been a proposal from the other side. i think that's a mistake. i want our young people in our country to have the freedom to work, to travel, to study across europe. and i think we would welcome a young europeans to, here well, cal, surprise, you take off the wetsuit. >> ed davey's. actually, michel barnier in disguise. and joining me now is the former liberal democrat mp norman baker. norman always a pleasure. no secret that ed davey wants to rejoin the european union, but he wants an all inclusive, fully open border policy with every european union member state for everybody under 30 immediately. that's precisely what we voted to stop in 2016. >> well, hang on, martin. good evening to you. first of all, i apologise for the ghoulish backdrop here. i'm in a hotel, look, i think listening to ed's comments there, he was talking about getting back in the single market over a period of time and having the same access for under 30s as we presently offer to

people from other parts of the world. so it doesn't seem to me to be terribly revolutionary. and let's go back to the brexit vote. 5248 was the margin very narrow, and many of those who voted for brexit voted for a softer brexit for us to continue in the single market, which, after all, was margaret thatcher's crowning achievement in terms of european policy. so i don't think he's been particularly radical in saying that. and you have to bear in mind, on the other hand, that brexit has not been a success. you can argue whether it was flawed as a concept or flawed in delivery, but either way, it has not worked out very well and therefore to try to repair some of the damage seems to me to be entirely in britain's interest. >> yeah, norman, a great way of repairing the damage would be to open our borders again to the under 30s, which wouldn't just be students, it would be unskilled workers. it would be barristers, bar staff, plumbers , barristers, bar staff, plumbers, factory workers, suppressing the working class wages of this country again, exactly what we voted to stop. isn't that the point? the liberal democrats

aren't very liberal and you're not democratic. you'd like to overturn the democratic will of the nation and have a second referendum, but you didn't get the result you wanted the first time. well martin, you're you're you're saying you're putting in ed's words in his mouth, things he hasn't said. >> he hasn't mentioned a second referendum. and believe me , you referendum. and believe me, you know, he said that's the longer term goal to get back in. i i am both liberal and democratic, we need a liberal party in this country for all sorts of reasons, not least of all because the government at the moment is not very liberal in its approach to a whole range of issues. so, it's perfectly possible to create a situation where you have a deal for students without having a deal for everybody else. that's perfectly great. that's perfectly great. that's perfectly possible to create that. so let's not pretend that because he wants to have a deal with students, that somehow opens the floodgates to everything else. it doesn't. >> well, he said, all under 30s. anyway, i digress. let's talk about another talking point that's come up at your conference because elsewhere, eyebrows were raised when israel was blamed for the october 7th terror attacks during a fringe

event on sunday, tayyab ali, lawyer and the director of the international centre of justice for palestinians , told party for palestinians, told party activists israel's far right dogma and actions in the west bank led directly to hamas's massacre of around 1200 of israel's israelis almost a year ago. now, the liberal democrats have been calling for an immediate ceasefire between israel and hamas since november, as well as urging the government to end all arms sales to israel. norman, these these sort of people are not welcome in any political party, are they? how on earth can you blame far right rhetoric from israel for the hamas terrorist invasion of october 7th? that happened at the liberal democratic conference? presumably this guy is going to get booted out. >> well, look, i mean, first of all, we believe in freedom of speech in our party, and we're not intolerant. and we don't vote people out because of one thing they say blaming israel for a terrorist invasion isn't freedom of speech. >> no, that's something else.

but it is. >> but we don't happen to agree with it. the majority of lie—in in the party, very clearly, is not that the majority of the party is to argue for a ceasefire, as indeed is mainstream with labour party, with president biden and many others, indeed the conservative party. i think what is true, i think and it's not it's worth pointing out, is that the israeli government is the is more to the to the right than any other israeli government has ever been. and netanyahu has an interest in maintaining the present conflict, because if it ends, he will find himself personally in trouble with the judiciary, who are waiting to take action against him for alleged offences with israel. now no one is saying, and i'm not saying, and i don't even know if tariq ali was saying i wasn't there, that, that, the, the, the hamas attacks are justified. of course they weren't justified. there can be no justification for attacking individual citizens, but that appues individual citizens, but that applies both ways. and just as it was entirely wrong for the terrorist attack to deal with israeli citizens who are

entirely innocent. equally, it is wrong for the israeli government to start bombing areas where civilians have been told they can gather in safety, and that's what they're doing, and that's what they're doing, and that's what they're doing, and that's what the united nafions and that's what the united nations and others have condemned israel for, the way they're carrying out the reprisals . reprisals. >> okay. thank you very much for joining us on the show. norman, always a pleasure. and you must admit, we've all missed arguing about brexit now joined back in the studio here by my panel of gb news senior political commentator nigel nelson. and of course, amin bogle, the chairman of the global britain centre. gents, let's have a quick chat, shall we? first, about which topic would you prefer to talk topic would you prefer to talk to israel or brexit? both. let's talk about brexit then. it's okay to say that. oh no, we don't really want to involve freedom of movement for all in the 30s. i think that's what they do want. and they do want a second referendum. and they do want us to get back into the single market. they want to reverse brexit. >> well, i'll be honest with you, martin, i didn't actually know that the liberal democrat conference was going on at the minute. but, if this is what they're coming out with, then , they're coming outwith, then, as you said earlier, they're

neither liberal nor democratic. but i would probably argue that sir david made a point to christopher hope earlier that we have freedom of movement for the under 30s with japan. no we don't. it's for 6000 people per yeah don't. it's for 6000 people per year. and those are young professionals and it's vice versa. it's in exchange for the 6000 young professionals from the uk who want to go to japan for doing various various things. so it's not freedom of movement, but that's exactly what the lib dems want to encourage starmer to do. now, this is what starmer said in 2020 that he would want to look at freedom of movement as the deal to get brexit done, so he already has form for suggesting and wanting to campaign for freedom of movement with the eu. and that's exactly what he said in germany. and that's exactly what he would do with the push from the lib dems. but more importantly, the freedom of movement for under 30 from the eu would also include the 2 million people who have received asylum in the eu. it's not just

europeans. >> okay, nigel nelson now ed davey might want freedom of movement. i'd like to be an astronaut. probably neither of those two things are going to happen any time soon, because ed davey won't be in power. but the point alluded to there is actually keir starmer of the same mindset . same mindset. >> no, but brexit, i mean, brexit is done. it's over, people like me lost the argument and we have to accept that. so we're talking about a different thing here. if you wanted to rejoin the single market, which is a lib dem policy, yes, you would need to have freedom of movement. again, that is not what keir starmer is talking about. he's talking about a reset of relationships with europe on the youth mobility scheme. firstly, he's ruled it out. i'm in favour of it. it's not just japan, australia, canada, new zealand limited number, ecuador, and the idea is an exchange of young people, our young limit. >> there are millions and millions of under 30s across the 27 member states. there would be limits from singapore. >> there would be a as simon says, there would be be a limit on the people who came here.

they would get visas. they'd have to show they could support themselves. they wouldn't have access to public funds. different thing completely. so freedom of movement. as far as i can see, is off the table because that would reverse brexit. >> nigel, do you miss arguing about brexit? >> oh yeah. i loved arguing about brexit on the previous story there about israel. >> we have a spokesman for the liberal democrats who gave us this statement, like all party conferences , our fringe events conferences, our fringe events include external speakers whose views do not reflect the party's policy. we have heard a range of views on all sides of this terrible conflict, including a speech on the conference floor from an israeli peace activist who tragically lost his parents in the october 7th. terrorist attacks. the liberal democrats are clear that we want to see an immediate bilateral ceasefire to end the humanitarian disaster in gaza, ensure the hostages are brought home and open the door to a two state solution . so to a two state solution. so thank you very much to my panel. now, up next, jeremy corbyn.

remember him? he's addressed a meeting for a new left wing political party. we'll be speaking to a former labour mp under jeremy corbyn for more details on that movement . next

welcome back. now the former labour leader jeremy corbyn has reportedly addressed a meeting for a new left wing political party. the trigger for this new initiative was the large number of independent pro—palestine campaigns at the july general election that did well. in fact, if you recall, in total five pro gaza independents, including mr corbyn, won a seat in parliament with many more coming in second place. now their wins have been seen as the beginning of a potential new left wing mass movement to act as a counterweight to labour's supposed rightward drift. and, of course, the rise of reform

uk. so does the uk need a new left wing party? is the labour party really moving to the right, or is the potentially is this potentially a sign of sectarian politics on the move? now that's a lot to discuss and joining me is a man with a big opinion. the former labour mp lloyd russell—moyle. lloyd, welcome to the show . always welcome to the show. always a pleasure. so you're a former corbyn east. he must be delighted that your old boss is once again hove back into view. >> well, i'm not sure that they have agreed to set up a party yet, and my understanding is that they have not included the independent pro—palestine mps. but this is an initiative from left wing trade unionists based around jeremy corbyn's peace and justice project, which is the project that he set up after he left , being project that he set up after he left, being leader of the labour party and then was expelled from the party. we will see. i am always very sceptical of new

parties being established and i think that the left of the political spectrum is pretty crowded. the lib dems seem to be inhabiting a kind of centre left area. the greens clearly are inhabiting a left of centre block, and they have just launched a new left wing campaign within their party. and so i do think it seems a little bit like crowding the field, which will be good for the right, as it were. we saw the reform effect, didn't we, on the conservatives at this time round. and of course there could be a similar effect on labour if there was a left wing flank. i suspect that will be the green party however, and not a new venture, new ventures have been tried before. tusc the trade union socialist coalition, and they weren't very successful. >> now, lloyd, of course, mr corbyn brings a certain amount of baggage to the table. let's be frank, corbyn's labour party was the only political party ever to be investigated

officially for racism. apart from the bnp and the kind of people who's been jumping into bed with recently shook up arade dam leicester , south acorn, dam leicester, south acorn, birmingham, perry barr, adnan hussein, blackburn, iqbal, mohammed in dewsbury and batley all said they won that election for gaza, especially iqbal mohammed in dewsbury and batley. the batley grammar school teacher, still in hiding three years later, not a peep out of mr mohammed about one of his constituents. is that the danger corbyn will just give a guise to a new political movement solely along sectarian, divisive politics? precisely what nigel farage said would happen . farage said would happen. >> well, i think, as i said, what's interesting is that this, initiative that he has spoken at didn't include the palestinian independence he's formed a separate alliance with them working in parliament, but hasn't included them in this meeting today, according to reports. so that would maybe

indicate that he wants a broader, bigger coalition. however, do you think we've got to be careful not to condemn elected people that got elected by the by the people in their constituencies and to somehow suggest that those people in those constituencies are somehow wrong for voting. that's what people accuse reform voters of as well. and it's distasteful. i think it's distasteful on all sides. you can disagree with some of their views, but i think it is difficult to just dismiss them entirely. they are, of course , members of parliament. course, members of parliament. >> okay. now, very quickly , >> okay. now, very quickly, lloyd, is this a party that you'd be interested in joining if you were asked? >> well, i am still interested in working within the labour party. and i have a process to do that within. but, look, my view has always been that i want to work with parties that have a strong trade union and co—operative link. i am sceptical of just state power. i'm sceptical . yes. isn't it?

i'm sceptical. yes. isn't it? i want i want trade unions and i want i want trade unions and i want cooperatives running the show . and at the moment the show. and at the moment the trade unions and cooperatives have the link with the labour party. so that's where i'll be staying for the time being of course, answered like a true politician. >> they're beautiful. thank you very much. lloyd russell—moyle always a pleasure to have you on the show. thanks, lloyd. now still joined in the studio by my panel still joined in the studio by my panel, of course. that's gb news, senior political commentator nigel nelson and amanda bogle, the chairman of the global britain centre, and hoving, into view of course, is jacob rees—mogg. state of the nafion jacob rees—mogg. state of the nation next shapps a quick blast from you. let's start with you, amanda corbyn the return. he's back. good idea or bad. >> well, look, i'm a democrat. yes, go ahead and set up a political party. but make sure it's authentic. call it the marxist party of great britain. brackets. friends of hamas and hezbollah. >> well, that's very succinct and to the point, nigel. >> yeah, i think it's going to be called a collective. but anyway, like all small parties like this , the chance of it like this, the chance of it surviving beyond its fledgling

years is very remote . who years is very remote. who remembers change uk now? but they were they were a party in parliament. they had a number of mps disappeared almost immediately. >> i think even the people in change uk have forgotten about change uk have forgotten about change uk have forgotten about change uk to be honest, most of them have disappeared too. let's bnng them have disappeared too. let's bring you in now. jacob rees—mogg . before we get into rees—mogg. before we get into what's on state of the nation tonight, what about the return of corbyn? is there really room for a far left party with a motley collection of followers that corbyn may attract? >> jeremy corbyn was amazingly popular at the peak of his popularity amongst young people, and at least he obviously pays for his own suits. he doesn't need to get them funded by donors . donors. >> a neat segue into what's on stage, which is exactly what i'm going to be talking about. >> this scandal. and the thing is that party leaders take donations, but starmer was so outraged about boris getting money from donors, and now he can't even afford to buy his wife a frock. he has to get it paid for by a peer of the realm who clearly, obviously has no vested interest in sending bungs

to the labour party. >> i love the word frock, especially when used in such a beautiful way by you . quickly, beautiful way by you. quickly, starmer is in italy. do you think he'll come back with any sort of idea of strengthening our borders, or is it just all performative globe trotting? perform ative globe trotting? >> performative globe trotting? >> well, i'm also going to be talking about that because he's going to talk about processing offshore. but then anyone who meets the processing requirements will be given asylum in the uk. and the people from syria and afghanistan are getting asylum at a 90% plus rate. so they'll all come here anyway. >> so if jacob rees—mogg stays the nation up next straight after the show. always excellent. thank you very much emma vogel and nigel nelson for your contribution . we had a navy your contribution. we had a navy seal on tonight. i thoroughly enjoyed that. hope you've enjoyed that. hope you've enjoyed the show and i'll be back tomorrow 3 to 6 pm. and up next, of course, is jacob rees—mogg. he'll be getting stuck into frogs, not literally figuratively . that's coming up figuratively. that's coming up next. thanks. i'll see you tomorrow. 3 to 6.

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northern isles and the far north and northwest of scotland, where it will be a grey, misty and damp start in places. best of the sunshine across scotland will be through the central belt, eastern scotland and northern ireland, seeing some decent sunny spells, but for much of southern scotland, england and wales it's blue skies from the word go. and that's how it remains effectively throughout much of the day. some patchy cloud, most likely across east anglia and the south east. kent seeing a fair amount of cloud moving in. but for the north and northwest of scotland, the cloud actually thins and it turns brighter into the afternoon and warmer as a result . northeast scotland low result. northeast scotland low to mid 20s. low to mid 20s. further south in places as well . further south in places as well. and it's another fine start to wednesday. the best of the sunshine on wednesday morning will be in the far north and west, whilst central and eastern england sees quite a lot of cloud during the morning. that disappears back to the coast dunng disappears back to the coast during the afternoon, leading to

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