re re protection team and in a rare show of political unity, commended president joe biden for calling him. >> i was with an agent and the agent did a fantastic job. there was no question that we were off that course. i would have loved to have sank that last putt, but we decided, let's get out of here. we do need more people on my detail because we have 50, 60,000 people showing up to events and, you know, other people don't have that . people don't have that. >> those are the latest gb news headunes. >> those are the latest gb news headlines . now it's back to headlines. now it's back to nigel for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone , news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com >> forward slash alerts . >> forward slash alerts. >> forward slash alerts. >> good evening. more than 10,000 people now have crossed the english channel and been processed through dover since keir starmer became the prime

minister. that includes 801 who came on saturday alone. it bnngs came on saturday alone. it brings the total since this whole thing began to an incredible 137,000. but it's all going to be okay because we have a new border security command, and we're going to put a £75 million investment into it, money that we won't be now spending on rwanda. and the plan is that the national crime agency will work together with m15 agency will work together with mi5 and other agencies, but also will work with europol, and there'll be national crime agency officers in bulgaria. one of the places where dinghies and engines get smuggled in and across europe. but the question, isuppose across europe. but the question, i suppose , is will this work? i suppose, is will this work? love to get your thoughts on that. farage @gbnews .com i have to say i have no great confidence that it will, because

it seems to me that if you smash the gangs, even if you do smash the gangs, even if you do smash the gangs, even if you do smash the gangs, the money, the money these people can make is so great that others will come and fill their place. it's rather like sort of whack a mole. i just don't believe it's going to work. i don't believe it can be done. i'm joined tonight in the studio by richard drax, former conservative member of parliament, by matthew talbot, former labour adviser. but first i'm going to go to doctor mike jones of migrationwatch uk. i suppose mike in fairness to starmer, the fact we now have national crime agency officers embedded with other police forces around europe might give us better intelligence . us better intelligence. >> well, yeah, i mean, in theory, i'm not against a more sort of transnational international approach to the illegal migration crisis because it's a transnational phenomenon, but we're already doing this. we did this under the conservative government. we have cooperation

with turkey. we have cooperation with turkey. we have cooperation with france, we cooperate with europol, frontex, the european commission, so this transnational approach is already taking place. are you suggesting, are you really saying that all the labour government are doing is more of what was happening already? yeah, it's imitation, but under a different name. so, you know, we now now have this sort of, central command unit. but priti patel essentially had a very similar organisation. the kctc and effectively did what the starmer government is now intending to do. now, in principle, i'm not against, governments from doing this. if you can share information, make life difficult for the gangs for so on, i'm fine, but you can't smash the gangs by doing this. you have to make their business model redundant. and how do you do that? you need to detain and deport. you need to get rid of

people , as we used to do. people, as we used to do. >> yeah, and not that many years ago. so you're not particularly confident this is going to make much difference? >> it will make a difference to the margins but it's not going to solve the issue. >> no, no. well matthew talbot, this was an issue that did the last government enormous electoral harm. i mean enormous electoral harm. i mean enormous electoral harm. i mean enormous electoral harm. and it's an issue that particularly in the red wall, those midlands and not purely but those midlands and northern seats, this issue still resonates. starmer has got a problem hasn't he. >> yeah. i think whoever would have won in earlier this year would have had a problem. and i think, you know, i'm, i think it's basically i don't mind liberal levels of immigration if and there is a big if, if there is the infrastructure there to sustain it. and at the moment we've been let down by successive governments who haven't built enough houses, enough schools may be allowed too much cheap labour to come in dunng too much cheap labour to come in during new labour's era. and if this is more tinkering around

the edge where parties such as the edge where parties such as the conservatives or maybe her own can capitalise, they have got a huge problem. i don't see. i actually think safe and legal routes could have helped ease this, and i can see the grimaces from the pair of you. >> well, i mean, here's the point, right? we have actually taken 500,000 refugees since 2016. it's an unbelievable number, albeit quite a lot from ukraine, some of whom may go back.i ukraine, some of whom may go back. i don't know, we'll see. but it's not as if we haven't been very, very generous . the been very, very generous. the problem with this is this is illegal immigration being pursued by criminal gangs. it's 90% young men, unidentified young men. i mean, i believe it's actually a national security emergency. >> no, it may well be. >> no, it may well be. >> i think the problem is it can be termed illegal immigration. but obviously there isn't really illegal immigration because if you were to travel via whatever means, well, what else are we going to call it? well, listen, the law needs changing then if that's the case, i understand

the point you're trying to put forward. >> labour. want to tell us? it's called regular irregular migration. >> yeah, well, maybe that's the case.i >> yeah, well, maybe that's the case. i think with regards to refugees, i think 95%, 99% tend to go to the next neighbouring country, >> so again, we've, we've taken a lot in, but compared to the vast majority of the world, this is why jordan has a million refugees. you know that we're not seeing the levels of numbers they may well and we're not the rest of the world, richard, you know, you know yourself as a conservative member of parliament in the last administration. >> it hurt your party hugely. >> it hurt your party hugely. >> yes, it did , i11 problem. >> yes, it did, i11 problem. i think everyone's got and europe is waking up to it is free movement of people. i mean the germans are now causing quite a lot of angst in the eu by saying they want their borders back . they want their borders back. well, i mean, well done germany, let's all wake up to the real world. if that was reintroduced, that would have a huge impact on these guys because they wouldn't be able to flow through these countries and get to france, which is a safe country. and the second point, i think this is a threat to national security. i agree with you entirely. i think

it's a matter now for the armed forces. i would say, and i would say we need some sort of ships in the middle of the channel to say no further . that's it. and say no further. that's it. and if they get there, they're turned around and sent back. now, i know this would cause a huge noise with france. we'd have a sort of cod war situation, no doubt , but at situation, no doubt, but at least we'd make the point to the gangs. you get to the middle of the channel and we will make every effort we can to put these illegal migrants, as you rightly say, back into boats, safe boats , say, back into boats, safe boats, and take them back to france. >> yes. we couldn't we couldn't tow back those dinghies. no, no , tow back those dinghies. no, no, because they're not safe boats. >> you have a whole lot of boats out there. so you'd need the royal marines and they just take them straight back . them straight back. >> but, you know, can i just ask richard whether you felt boris johnson may have missed a trick in 2021? because i think the thing that riles a lot of people up is because we have this constant daily commentary and scenes of people crossing the channel. first of all, is extremely dangerous, and we sadly see people dying. second of all, there's gangs making a huge trade out of this, and it's

a huge issue that we do need to stop. but in 2021, the interior minister of france said, well, i'll tell you what it's doing. both of our heads in, why don't we process them at northern france? therefore, you're stopping the danger of people coming across and potentially loss of life, but also you can do the processing to see if they really are refugees. you're therefore not having people put up in bed and breakfast temporary accommodation, because that's a whole other racket. these hotels that are signing contracts with the government where they're making millions off putting people up, well, i don't know, processing, but we are spending, i'm not quite sure how much, but many, many millions of pounds to the french government to protect their northern coastline. >> well, actually, and these boats are still coming in about 500 million. >> and with all the modern technology, i cannot understand how these boats are not spotted. >> well, well, the point you've got . do you know what? do you got. do you know what? do you know what i mean? it's easy to blame the french. the truth is, they've got hundreds of miles square miles of sand dunes. they're taking off on beaches across 100 yard, 100 mile

stretch. it's not easy. it's not easy. moving on to an issue that is downstream from this. and it's about a lack of integration. it's about a clash of cultures. it's about the appalling story that broke in rotherham . you'll remember back rotherham. you'll remember back in 2014. well, the law does move very, very slowly . but finally a very, very slowly. but finally a group of men were in sheffield crown court last week and they received very, very long prison sentences. seven men, 106 years of prison sentences . of prison sentences. astonishingly, gb news were the only media organisation that covered the story, and one of the girls who'd been repeatedly raped, etc, had in her victim impact statement that she hoped that the pakistani man who had done this to her at the end of his lengthy prison term , was his lengthy prison term, was deported back to pakistan and

the judge removed that from her victim impact statement. maybe it's no surprise we have a case in rochdale where somebody who was a serial abuser, nine years on, is still living in the same community as his victims as he goes through the legal process and claims that because of his human rights, he can't be deported , and then claims that deported, and then claims that he's renounced his pakistani citizenship. and i just it is just the most astonishing story. richard obe gb news there . it's richard obe gb news there. it's as if we're just brushing this all under the carpet. it's all too difficult. >> i would have hoped that after the past case, this would have really been, you know, there would have been a different attitude to all this. it seems that people are terrified. and news organisations i include in this to actually say what it is . this to actually say what it is. these are in the main pakistani men , sick preying on vulnerable men, sick preying on vulnerable young girls. now to them these

girls are nothing more than meat. yeah, this is completely unacceptable. and if they're not british citizens, they should be sent straight home back to where they came from. if they are as they came from. if they are as they have, they've been jailed for many years and so they should be absolutely shocking . should be absolutely shocking. >> matthew, the whole thing shocking. and it was covered up at the beginning. it was covered up.the at the beginning. it was covered up. the police knew everyone knew. and still, even when we get to this stage, the british media seem reluctant to talk about it . about it. >> yeah. and it only it only fosters further discontent in communities that feel, rightly or wrongly , as second class or wrongly, as second class citizens sometimes, or feeling like they're put last, and it shouldn't be the case. i think. i'm not sure. and i'm happy to be corrected . whether it is a be corrected. whether it is a majority of pakistani men, i think it was in rotherham. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> oh in rotherham. >> oh in rotherham. >> yes. overwhelming. >> yes. overwhelming. >> take that. take that. that's fine, i think the bigger issue that may play out with these sort of issues is the woman in

question, bless her, was saying, you know, she hoped this person would be sent back from, from whence they came. and i think the problem is, once somebody has been here long enough and is a british citizen, we can't do that. obviously, now the punishment is he's been given a long prison sentence and whatever else. i suppose the concern is why the judge took it out. i can only assume, and i hope not, that it's further proof of he didn't want any sort of incitement. and i think it's good that we have an independent judiciary and whatever else. and but i think it's quite wrong when we're telling people what they can put in their impact statement. yeah, that's right. yeah. >> and particularly the girl has gone through that in a sense, mike, i mean, this one's a funny one because in the way that he's renounced pakistani status and therefore pakistan say they won't have him. but when it comes to any form of deportation, we are up against echr. >> yeah , precisely, i mean, in >> yeah, precisely, i mean, in this case, it seems very clear cut to me, you know, basic

common sense and moral values. if somebody has dual nationality or if they're of a foreign nationality, they've committed a crime of this scale, they should serve their sentence and they should be deported. no ifs, no buts , in terms of why we can't buts, in terms of why we can't do this, in some cases it's due to bureaucratic indifference and incompetence. but there is a sort of european convention of human rights element to it, because we have the human rights act, this enshrines the echr into domestic law and you have what's called the principle of non—refoulement. so it's very difficult to deport people to their country of origin. if there's any risk of harassment or humiliation in some way. so that that does absolutely have an impact on deportations. >> mike jones, as ever, thank you for joining >> mike jones, as ever, thank you forjoining us. and folks, you for joining us. and folks, i've told you before, the echr is going to be a very big issue over the course of the next few

years. in a moment, let's talk about electric cars and your reluctance at home to buy them on the scale that governments should

so will the new setup work ? ryan so will the new setup work? ryan says much like the nhs, the government can spend as much as they like on their new task force, but nothing will change. there are two issues lack of will from the staff and secondly, the meddling echr. kevin says labour could not stop a milk float. never mind anything else. and john says starmer's waffle to stop the illegal immigration will not work. he is just like sunak. he is completely gutless and will not confront the leftie lawyers. but the point is, there's no point confronting the leftie

lawyers. my belief is that all the while we have the human rights act from 1998, which incorporates the echr, our judges will always lean on that . judges will always lean on that. right. let's talk electric cars, shall we? theresa may announces a few years ago that after 2040, there will be no new petrol and diesel cars sold in the uk. that wasn't good enough for a newly married boris johnson. not that i'm suggesting, of course, that she influenced this policy at all. but he decided no, no, no. after 2030 there will be no new sales of petrol or diesel cars when of course they realise by 2023 this was completely impossible . they shifted the impossible. they shifted the target to 2035, but then labour get in on a manifesto of going back to 2030 for no new sale . back to 2030 for no new sale. i'm not making this up, i promise you. of petrol or diesel cars. but today announced that

actually up until 2035, hybrids will be sold. now there's a big problem with evs. you're not buying them. you're all supposed to buy electric vehicles, because if you don't, the world is going to be destroyed by global warming. at least that's what the labour and conservative parties seem to believe. however there is a regulation still in place that says that we have to get to 80% evs by 2030, and we're currently at about 18%, and already petrol cars are being rationed by distributors. you go and try and buy a brand new petrol car. you'll wait 6 or 9 months to get it. so do we need a complete rethink on evs? and by the way, you know, if all of this works, it's fantastic. but richard drax, i just think they're going to fall flat on their face with this. it's not possible, is it? it's not

possible. >> i mean, there's the infrastructure for starters. there aren't the plug in points. there aren't the plug in points. the cars don't have the range. they're too expensive. they're too heavy. they're tearing up the earth's resources to make the earth's resources to make the batteries. it's. i think it's just a massive, massive con , it's just a massive, massive con, frankly. and in oslo, my wife is norwegian . they had one of the norwegian. they had one of the coldest winters this year. and —23, i believe it was. and they are forced to have by battery cars over there. they hate them. you've got in their car. turn on the heating, turn on the lights, turn on the radio. listen to the news and don't. the battery just does that. and they're all now going back to buying petrol cars. they don't want battery cars. they don't want battery cars. so it is. and i also think that batteries will be overtaken in time by something else a non—polluting fuel which would make sense with this internal combustion engine. >> well actually, which is being tested now. but if you think about it actually , you know, the about it actually, you know, the miles we get per gallon are vastly improved on what they

were a few years ago. fuel is improving. i just wonder , improving. i just wonder, matthew talbot, is this one of those areas where. yeah, okay, it sounds lovely. it sounds fab. you know, the idea that there'll be no fumes by roads, main roads. it sounds terrific, but is it one of those areas where just people in westminster. i mean by that the political and media class are just out of touch with reality. >> i think it could be. which is why i thought we should probably welcome today's announcement, whether that be because they've realised it cannot be done, or whether i would like to think with a sort of labour hat on, that we don't want to push this price onto people that maybe can't afford it. i think if we want to encourage the pickup and the take up of things like more renewable vehicles, whatever they are, then we should be offering quite a generous scrappage scheme. if you're encouraging people to tell you what, we'll take your old diesel car, petrol car, whatever, we'll scrap it in and we'll give you a load of money to go and get an electric one. i think that may be a greater, an easier transition, i don't think. and

i'm no expert on the climate, but i think we need to make sure it's good for everybody, not just for those that can afford it. when we make the problem is we've got to produce the power. well that's true as well. i remember listening years ago to somebody that was an expert in the field, and they said the issue they've had or that they could foresee was sort of brownouts that are quite, quite common in america , whereby your common in america, whereby your power goes out for a certain amount of time, then comes back on it can be quite erratic. and obviously you don't want that in certain situations either. >> which leads us into ed miliband. the big plan . wind miliband. the big plan. wind turbines everywhere . is it going turbines everywhere. is it going to work? >> i guess i don't know, i would hope so. i would hope so. again, i'm no expert in this. ed has done lots of work in the energy field for a while , what people field for a while, what people think of that, i don't know, but you know, he certainly seen as the man that that labour should go to on this sort of stuff. i get, i get on really well with the people around him and they are some of the more cleverer people i've met on most things. so i would hope that it will work. >> the funny thing is, it

doesn't really matter whether i'm sitting here with a labour administration or a conservative one, because richard drax, the debate is pretty much the same, isn't it? >> well, if you remember, it was, baroness may who brought this in. there was no vote, no decision. it was just wolf, we're going to do this by 2050. no debate, nothing. >> this is the net zero agenda, the net zero, which is all part of it. >> and you've got this committee, this very powerful committee, this very powerful committee which is working behind the scenes with introducing budgets that the government have to keep to. these budgets have become more and more punitive, and the people of this country will begin to feel the pinch more and more and more. it is unrealistic expectations. they're not pragmatic. they are totally unrealistic, are pushed on us legally. >> what i'm certain of legally. weeks ago, is that electricity pnces weeks ago, is that electricity prices will be rising for many, many years to come, and that's going to impact on everybody. and yeah , you know, we can cut and yeah, you know, we can cut our carbon dioxide emissions.

but all the while china, indonesia and india completely ignore the whole thing. we're not really making very much difference. but i'll return to that point. the political differences between these two parties are pretty marginal. i agree, and that's one reason. >> i think another reason we lost. yeah, people lost faith in a pragmatic approach, which the conservative party has always based itself to follow. pragmatism. we were being totally unpragmatic. >> and what did people vote labour for? was it because they were anti—tory? >> yes . i said were anti—tory? >> yes. i said for quite some time i when i was on the doors, there was no real for love laboun there was no real for love labour, there was a lot of indifference . and i actually saw indifference. and i actually saw the 2024 election as a huge protest vote, basically, as we don't want the tories anymore, we'll take whatever. and i think i've said for some time, they need to be wary of your party. i think that is the real danger. in 99 seats, they've come second and i think, i would caution the party against seeing seats as the amount of votes. as you saw,

the amount of votes. as you saw, the turnout wasn't very big. so evenin the turnout wasn't very big. so even in starmer's seat alone, so they've got to be careful. and a lot of this doom and gloom ain't going to do them any favours ehhen >>i ehhen >> i think, you know, you're right that it was an anti—tory vote the whole election was about an anti—tory vote. but i also think just the fact that the policy differences between the policy differences between the two leading parties is so narrow has kept many people at home in a moment we will discuss a really difficult issue work shy britain , but also the idea shy britain, but also the idea apparently , according to our apparently, according to our business secretary, jonathan reynolds, that if we sort of work more from home, we'll all be a whole lot more productive. i just don't believe

so in 2019, 5% of us worked primarily from home. now there

are 16 people who work, 16% sorry, who work exclusively from home, with another 28% following a hybrid model. it seems that work from home has become very, very fashionable. but the new labour government, unlike jacob rees—mogg, who wanted to force everyone back to the office and unlike amazon and other companies that are saying, you know what, you've got to come back to the office. it seems the labour government is following a very different line. the business secretary jonathan reynolds, who, by the way, has never worked in business, never worked in business, let alone set up a small business and employed people. he wants to end the culture of presenteeism , the culture of presenteeism, which means the culture of turning up for work. which means the culture of turning up for work . apparently turning up for work. apparently this will boost our productivity and that . is what labour and that. is what labour believe. i think this is a complete lot of baloney. i

honestly think, i honestly think if you look at our productivity figures, they're dire already. and when you work from home or you try to work from home, there are all sorts of distractions knocks at the door, the dogs not feeling well, the neighbour comes round , whatever it might comes round, whatever it might be. i also think work from home and i mean this very strongly is very unfair on young people, young ambitious people in whatever work they're in, only get on by learning from other, more experienced people and actually , do you know something? actually, do you know something? being part of a team, being part of a team that works, has common goals and objectives is a very, i think one of the most rewarding parts of work. so i feel pretty strongly about this . feel pretty strongly about this. richard, what say you ? richard, what say you? >> well, if you look at what they're suggesting, as i understand it, the earliest suggestion was that these working from home days before you are going to be forced to let your employees do what they want. we're going to be friday and monday. well isn't that a surprise? what do you call that? that's a long weekend, isn't it?

that's a long weekend, isn't it? that's going to knock our ability to create jobs and also and i'm very concerned as an employer myself, all these new laws that are going to come in under labour, they are going to stop employers employing people. they are not going to create jobs. they will do completely the opposite opposite. >> now it worries me and strange survey out today are gps now work an average of only 26 hours a week. i mean i mean, there are millions, millions, over 9 millions, millions, over 9 million people of potential working age not working. i mean , working age not working. i mean, has the work culture just has the pandemic destroyed the work culture? >> possibly. i think controversially, like like a lot of us, i was based mostly at home during the pandemic, and i did see there was positives and negatives. >> the positives was i did feel more productive. now. maybe that was the urgency of the time. i was the urgency of the time. i was mucking in, helping mps with

casework and whatnot. yeah, the flip side of that, and it plays into a little bit of your young people and getting to know people and getting to know people within teams. big part of my job was communications and deaung my job was communications and dealing with journalists. i didn't see anybody there for the work dried up slightly. when you're trying to get good stories out there. so i think the other point is there was a bit of a that's a that's that in a sense, is where the private sector gets hurt most by this. >> because if you're in the private sector, you have to whether if you're in a service, you have to keep new clients coming in through the door. the way you do that is to be part of the swim, to be out meeting people. but i can see why a government dominated by people that have lived in the public sector find this incredibly attractive, which is interesting because lots of jobs in the pubuc because lots of jobs in the public sector, you've got to turn up, whether it be nurses , turn up, whether it be nurses, train drivers, the civil service don't. >> well, maybe so , maybe so. but >> well, maybe so, maybe so. but i think it's the other point was dunng i think it's the other point was during the pandemic, there was this sort of running joke that prep was going to go bust. nobody was going into the office anymore. but we are a largely

service based economy. and actually that can change things like our high street forever. and i suppose a part of it i mean, i know people that run small businesses and do four day working weeks and actually the productivity of the company appears to have gone up. now, whether that would work on larger businesses, i don't know. and it's only anecdotal, but i wonder whether the ideology will trump some of the evidence, because it will only be those that are most privileged that get to benefit from these sort of stay at home things. where are those that were at the coalface, our key workers during the pandemic absolutely. >> will not that point that point, as you say, if you were a train driver or whatever, you can't work from home. yeah, it is generally the better paid. who will benefit from this? but i fear that it's something that is wonderful. if you work in the pubuc is wonderful. if you work in the public sector, but really rather less good if you're in the private. now, a little story from me. the what? the farage moment. i couldn't resist this. alison rose. remember her? dame alison rose. remember her? dame alison rose. remember her? dame alison rose she was the boss of natwest, who broke the first rule of banking, which is client confidentiality. when she told something to the bbc's business editor about me that wasn't true

and lost her job and quite and lost herjob and quite right, too. even if the so—called inquiry afterwards whitewashed the whole thing. well, we learned earlier on this year that she was joining private equity firm charterhouse capital in some capacity. but mishcon de reya and these are, you know, lawyers that have looked after the royal family and many others. and it was to whom she turned during her difficulties with me. they've given her a big job. and guess what she'll be doing ? have what she'll be doing? have a guess. she'll be the equality , guess. she'll be the equality, diversity and inclusion chief officer. yes absolutely. she'll be there to make sure, to make sure that mishcon is absolutely full of diverse people . don't full of diverse people. don't worry about their abilities. don't worry if they're no good for the job, just fulfil the quotas. well, all i can say to mishcon is very, very good luck to you. now. the foreign secretary, david lammy , chose secretary, david lammy, chose kew gardens this morning for his first big speech as foreign

secretary. let's just have a look at a little snippet of it. >> the threat may not feel as urgent as a terrorist or an imperialist autocrat, but it is more fundamental. it is systemic, it's pervasive and accelerating towards us at pace. >> well, quite. why matthew david lammy thinks that climate change is a bigger threat than terrorism or global dictators. i don't know, but it's almost as if this is an indication of what our foreign policy is going to be. our foreign policy is going to be about climate change. >> yes. yeah. quite possibly. i think there's two things, really what i would prefer to see from the foreign secretary, regardless of it, is to see that he should be standing up for freedom and democracy and the nafion freedom and democracy and the nation state, as we did sort of world war ii. nation state, as we did sort of world war 11. and all we should do . i think if i world war 11. and all we should do. i think if i were to try and make method of his potentially perceived madness, talking about

climate change being fundamentally more, more pressing than terrorism, climate change is going to pose a big issue when it comes to migration. if we believe that the projections that are made, that was his argument. yeah, because i think you're talking about hundreds of millions of people due to research done by the world bank, 216 million people in the worst case. and then you're looking at even maybe even 1 billion people by 2050. you've obviously got rising sea levels. if people think migration to this country is an issue now, we may well get to a real boiling point by 2050. if that's the case. now, what i would say to that is that could promote as per your point, earlier, more terrorism either domestic because of the clash of cultures or the clash of society or people getting in. that's all. >> assuming that climate change or climate, the global warming is happening and will continue to happen. >> well, yes , i believe it is. >> well, yes, i believe it is. again, i'm no expert . >> well, yes, i believe it is. again, i'm no expert. i do always think one of the most intelligent men i've ever met.

he's never he's not with us anymore. he was spot on about everything, did not believe climate change was real. and he always leaves that little in the back of my mind. you know, the late, the late, great sir patrick moore. >> i asked him this question about 20 years ago. he said, well, of course man must have some influence with what he's done. and the size of the population on the planet, he said. but sunspot activity is a much, much bigger factor. but, you know, you take as you find with these things , richard, it with these things, richard, it was a very odd i mean, for a first big speech for a foreign secretary, the setting, the style very strange. >> i bet the focus groups are saying that they should don't go on banging on about climate change and climate change, of course, is an issue. but a bit like the remainers and the brexit debate, all this doom and gloom and you're doomed and the whole country is going to the dogs actually has the opposite effect on people who might actually think, okay, let's not have petrol cars and diesel cars and all this sort of thing. so they're destroying their own argument with this continuous run of bad news. and i don't

think it's very wise of him. and comparing climate change to terrorism , which is right across terrorism, which is right across the globe and a major international problem, and we see and hear about it every single day. so i don't think the two equate it didn't it didn't sit together , in my view, very, sit together, in my view, very, very odd indeed is all i can say. >> and particularly as we have what is going on in the middle east and all sorts of events there today, which will no doubt talk about tomorrow and what is going on in ukraine and who knows what may go on in taiwan. i would have thought that, you know, the threat of global war being closer than it's probably been at any point in my lifetime might have been more important. hey, i don't know. so over the weekend, there was a second assassination attempt on donald trump within the space of two months. i did speak to him on the phone yesterday evening. is it all about rhetoric and dare we be complacent in our country

and . well, it's bad enough being and. well, it's bad enough being shot at and hit at a public rally. but for donald trump, his two really safe spaces are mar—a—lago and the golf club, which is just down the road. and that's where he spends his time surrounded by his family, by his friends, and where he relaxes and enjoys himself . but of and enjoys himself. but of course, he was on the fifth and heading for a birdie. according to him, when rifle shots rang out because somebody who for 12 hours had waited in the bushes was about 400 yards away on the sixth hole, and if the secret service had not spotted the guy with the rifle, donald trump would not be alive today. there was quite a tribute paid to him by his golfing partner on fox news last night. >> i got to see a man who was

stoic , courageous, cared about stoic, courageous, cared about his friends safety and first before his own life. he he was an inspiration to everybody who was around him. yesterday >> well, it must have been. i don't bother him much, but i picked up the phone last night and spoke to him and he he answered the phone first ring. i just wanted to find out how he was. he was putting, you know, a strong, brave face on it and keen to talk about what was happening in britain, etc, so i'm pleased that i did that. but hey, this has to have a really very, very, very tough effect on him . and for the next 50 days of him. and for the next 50 days of this campaign and probably for the rest of his life , i'm the rest of his life, i'm pleased to say that somebody rather more important than me picked up the phone yesterday, joe biden, and you may say , not joe biden, and you may say, not before time, but biden is now going to afford both trump and harris the same level of secret service coverage that the president of the usa has.

frankly, it should have been like this from the very start. and if that had been the case, the perimeters of the golf course would have been searched before they went out and played. but it does come down to rhetoric , you know, trump says rhetoric, you know, trump says it's the rhetoric that has caused this. and, you know, biden said it's time to put trump in the bullseye. other elected people from a democratic party have said he has to be eliminated. now, look, there can be bad things, said on both sides of the political debate. i'm not pretending it's all one way, but you do get the feeling sometimes at least i do, matthew, that that kind of what is said about trump does engender a certain kind of hatred. >> yeah, i think i don't think it means he should be shot at. i don't think he ultimately helps himself. i think some of the i think there's rhetoric on both sides. no, i accept that, i think part of it is because he's a bit of a character there. there's an element of caricature about him. therefore people feel

they can maybe say things or do things about him that they may not say about kamala harris or joe biden. i think the thing that sort of sunk in for me yesterday, donald trump's one of those rare politicians that really does grind my gears at times. and i think, oh my god, you know, most of the time i can let things go. but he really does.i let things go. but he really does. i saw his son tweet. he also does the same to me, actually, but he said, sometimes more so. but he said, i'm sick of having to sit down. my son donald trump's grandchild and explain that he's nearly been killed again this time. and there's, there's, you know, it's happened more than more than twice now. and i think that's the human element. he's whatever people think of him. and there's many things that people can think of him. there's a human being there and there's a family involved at the end of the day. and we've seen too much of it across the globe, really, and it puts people off going into politics as well. >> well, i must admit, during the campaign i first day i had a milkshake chucked in my face. two days later, a cup filled with cement was thrown at me and

nothing like what trump's gone through. but i must admit, for the next few days i was thinking, how do i campaign ? you thinking, how do i campaign? you know, what do i do? what's going to happen next? it's got to be very tough in his head right at the moment, richard, hasn't it? >> i think very tough. nigel, what concerns me, we're talking about the leader of the free world. whoever the president is going to be. and politics in america. when i went across there on twice with the defence committee, the defence committee we spoke to said that in their view , and they agreed with us view, and they agreed with us that american politics has become so divisive. they are poles apart. and until there's some coming together, not agreeing with each other necessarily, of course , but necessarily, of course, but until there's some calming down, you've got really the extremes on both wings prepared to do very stupid things. and they've all got guns and if they're incentivised to do something stupid, 1 or 2 lunatics who will? >> the point about guns is , is >> the point about guns is, is well made. but one of the things

that i did discuss on the phone with the 45th president was the fact that we're not immune from it here. no. and we have seen i mean, take david amess, the murder of david amess, that took place not very long ago and jo cox mr jo cox murdered place not very long ago and jo cox mrjo cox murdered a place not very long ago and jo cox mr jo cox murdered a few years, and i'm sure jacob, who's here now and he and i have had some very unpleasant stuff sent through our emails that the early hours of the morning normally threats to in one occasions to kill some of our female colleagues who've had threats of rape. >> and it's got in the 14 years i was there and i don't know if jacob agrees. it's got far, far worse. the rhetoric is far, far w0 i'se. woi'se. >> worse. >> i think the speaker is highly, highly, acutely aware of this and says that it's absolutely top of his priority to make sure that the parliamentary estate is safe. but equally, for elected members, when they're off it, that they're safe and they're making big efforts. but i'm sure for some of the new labour mps, i bet they're pretty shocked already. >> yeah, i think so. i spoke to some of them even, i mean, some

of them are shocked over the backlash to the winter fuel allowance and they've gone, oh my god, the emails. i said, well, you've not seen nothing. >> i worked, i worked through the brexit era, which was, you know, a real and you'll have had your own experiences. >> a real hard, emotionally dnven >> a real hard, emotionally driven , at times upsetting driven, at times upsetting penod driven, at times upsetting period of politics and again, that was a very divisive referendum, which, which people had strong views on both sides. i think it just worries me for the talent that will be scared. off i go back to my old university and colleges a lot and do talks about what i've donein and do talks about what i've done in politics and stuff like that, and what i do now. and you ask people i've asked at the very beginning how many of you these are all studying political degrees? how many of you would like to go into politics? and out of a class of 50 or 60, you're getting three. and i'm not saying you should, but if you extrapolate that across the country, it can't just be the northwest. >> that would have been very different a decade ago, wouldn't it? >> i think so i think so very different, because you can go and earn a load of money in the private sector without the front facing stuff, without the abuse on social media, the death

threats. and, you know, we've had it more recently. we had it with the gaza vote. i was i was nearly walking the mp, i was working for at the time home because i was worried because of the way he voted, that he he may get attacked on the way home. it's there's a lot of emotion in politics. >> well, jake has been followed home by. yeah, yeah. no, no, no, i mean, it's no panel. >> thank you very much indeed for joining me this evening. and jacob, it is becoming more of a problem. i mean, the fact that these appalling events are happening in america, there's no room for complacency here, is there? >> regrettably not. you know my views. i hate admitting this because i think when you complain, you give the blighters more publicity and that it's better not to complain. just get on with it and not give them the oxygen of publicity. but it is definitely a less pleasant atmosphere than it was. and i was i, you know , always thought was i, you know, always thought one should just put up with it. ichose one should just put up with it. i chose to go into public life. that was my choice. yeah. i was pretty put out when my son over the summer got hate mail and he's a 16 year old. i think sending hate mail to a 16 year

old is the lowest of the low. and i think that's. >> yeah, i've i've always taken a similar view. i don't really mind what verbal abuse i get when it comes to things being thrown in my face. i take a slightly different view. but yeah , what it extends to the yeah, what it extends to the family, it really is on the page. >> i've been luckier than you on things thrown. i once went to a conservative dinner. i was dressing and i arrived there and all these people were patting me on the back and i hate being patted on the back. i put it on me whilst i've been going in. someone had thrown milk on me and they were wiping it off. they've actually been quite kind, but i had noticed jacob in a few seconds. >> what have you got? what are we going to be talking about? >> we're going to be talking about david lammy saying we've all got to be green. and being green is more important than combating terrorism, which just seems bonkers. yes. or even perhaps facing a more frightening global military situation. indeed, he's not worried about putin. he's not worried about putin. he's not worried about putin. he's not worried about hamas. he's just worried about hamas. he's just worried about hamas. he's just worried about whether we have a few more windmills. >> well, it seems to be a line for the government. and he also said that the tories had been

environmental dinosaurs, which struck me as being rather nonsense because their policies weren't that different before. he answers, i'm going to say that's the end. weather with aidan mcgivern . aidan mcgivern. >> looks like things are heating up. boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news. >> hi there and welcome to the latest forecast from the met office for gb news dry . latest forecast from the met office for gb news dry. for many of us over the next 24 hours with clear skies , although with clear skies, although overnight it will turn somewhat cloudier in some places, notably towards the south and southeast because of the winds coming in around an area of high pressure and arriving from the east. those easterly winds will increase the cloud overnight across east anglia, the midlands and the south—east, eventually reaching parts of east wales by the early hours. further north, we lose the cloud across northern scotland, but under any clear spells across scotland and northern ireland, as well as

northern england, a few mist and fog patches could form by dawn, however, it's across southern parts of the country where we'll see the cloudiest skies away from the cloud. a chilly start once again with temperatures in the single figures, but under the single figures, but under the sheet of cloud a milder start compared with tuesday, albeit with grey skies. the clearest skies will be across northern ireland, northern england and much of scotland in sheltered spots away from main urban areas and away from hilltops . temperatures could be hilltops. temperatures could be as low as 3 to 6 celsius, and any mist and fog could last until 9 or 10 am. before disappearing. once the mist and fog does disappear, scotland, northern ireland, northern england sees once again a beautiful, sunny day, and across central and southern parts through the afternoon , the cloud through the afternoon, the cloud will disappear back to the east coast, where it could linger in places. and then another sunny day is expected for the vast majority, 24 or 25 celsius possible in places feeling warm in the sun. but there'll be less sun around on thursday morning,

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gb gb news. news. away. away. >> hello. good evening. it's me, >> hello. good evening. it's me, jacob rees—mogg on state of the jacob rees—mogg on state of the nation. tonight. the foreign nation. tonight. the foreign secretary, david lammy, has secretary, david lammy, has eccentrically warned that global eccentrically warned that global warming is a bigger threat to warming is a bigger threat he the world than terrorism as he launches the global clean power the world than terrorism as he launches the global clean power alliance, the business secretary alliance, the business secretary has equally eccentrically has equally eccentrically claimed that labour's planned right to work from home will boost productivity. in fact , 'o productivity. has equally eccentrically atzézzzézjzé'productivity. in fact ,

boost productivity. in fact, he'll be dooming britain to a boost productivity. in fact, he'll be dooming britain to a future of low productivity and idleness. the prime minister has defended his long, long list of freebies in an attempt to obscure the fact that all of his benefactors are seeking one thing from him influence. and for tonight's finale, that you really won't want to miss the great brexit debate, a new report has suggested that brexit has hit the british economy and the bbc, as ever, has swallowed it hook, line and sinker. the state of the nation starts now . state of the nation starts now. i'll also be joined by my most pugnacious panel, the former editor of the sun, kelvin mackenzie, and the former labour adviser matthew lasar. as ever, it's a crucial part of the programme. let me know your views, mailmogg@gbnews.com. but now it's your favourite time of the day. the news bulletin with sophia wenzler. >> jacob. thank you. good

evening. i'm sophia wenzler back in the uk, the now back in the uk, the government says it's tackling small boat crossings on all fronts, following news that 10,000 people have crossed the channelin 10,000 people have crossed the channel in small boats since labour came to daisy

the liberal democrats daisy cooper told us her party still think more can be done. >> part of the answer is pay. but as i say, it's just a first step. what we liberal democrats want to see is a really ambitious budget in october. we want the labour government to use the budget to be a budget to save our nhs and care services, and as part of that, we want to see an increase in day to day spending, not by taxing struggling families, but by reversing the tax cuts for the big banks and closing the loopholes in capital gains tax. so the wealthiest pay a little bit more. but we also want to see borrowing to repair our crumbling hospitals and gp surgeries to. >> and finally, the foreign secretary, david lammy, has said climate change is a more fundamental threat than terrorism. that's in his maiden speech. given this afternoon. he said that although the climate issue may not feel as urgent as terrorism, it is pervasive and accelerating towards us at pace, assuring the public that it will be central to all foreign office does. mr lammy also announced

the government would launch