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>> good evening. i'm sophia wenzler with your headlines at 11:00. israel's prime minister has hit out at the new labour government , accusing it of being government, accusing it of being misguided and undermining israel. benjamin netanyahu made the comments in an interview with the mail newspaper, which was published just tonight, days before a wave of walkie talkie and pager explosions rocked lebanon. it's understood that 14 people have been killed in today's attacks. while 12 people, including two children, were killed in the blasts yesterday and nearly 3000 remain in hospital. the terrorist group have accused israel for what's believed to have been a remote attack, targeting hand—held communication devices. the israeli defence forces say they did strike a hezbollah target last night, but didn't comment on the explosions. meanwhile, israel has declared a new phase
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of war as its army turns its attention to the northern front, with lebanon back in the uk. it's understood keir starmer's chief of staff received a pay rise after the election, which means she is now paid more than the prime minister. it's being reported that sue gray asked for, and was given a salary of £170,000. that's £3,000 more than the prime minister and more than the prime minister and more than any cabinet minister or her conservative predecessor. inflation remained above the 2% target, unchanged at 2.2% last month, with new data out today. treasury chief darren jones says years of sky high inflation continues to put a strain on british families , despite the british families, despite the slower rise. experts believe the figures point to the bank of england keeping interest rates at 5% tomorrow. meanwhile, in the us, interest rates have been slashed for the first time in more than four years by more than many expected. the us central bank brought interest
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interest rates down by 0.5% to 5% and staying in the us, the rapper sean combs, also known as p diddy , has been refused bail p diddy, has been refused bail for a second time as he faces several charges including sex trafficking, drug possession and firearms offences. the 54 year old pleaded not guilty after he was first arrested by officers in new york on monday. combs has denied all the claims and his team insists he's innocent and ready to clear his name in court. those are your latest gb news headlines. now it's time for headliners for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . slash alerts. >> hello and welcome to
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headliners. your first look at thursday's top stories with three comedians me, simon evans and joining me tonight, chris whitten, and hanging out with her old china. paul cox. how are you? >> oh, china. >> oh, china. >> ladies and gentlemen, you're looking very bank manager. >> i am today. >> i am today. >> i am today. >> i mean, i want dapper , but i >> i mean, i want dapper, but i think i do look like i could refuse a loan , but possibly to refuse a loan, but possibly to cressida. >> yes. >> yes. >> despite her feminine wiles. yeah there we go. there's the plot. sorted. anyway, let's take a look at the front pages. we have the telegraph kicking us off. new phase of middle east war. after walkie talkie blitz. i'm sure they were pages, but maybe we'll be able to dig into that later. the mail labour has undermined israel, that later. the mail labour has undermined israel , says undermined israel, says netanyahu. that's an unfortunate metaphor , given the hamas pros. metaphor, given the hamas pros. the express walkie talkie blasts in second wave of attacks. i news rogue landlord mp founded nursery firm accused of child
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safety breaches. the metro secrets of israel gadgets blitz and finally the daily star. the king of the cadgers . those were king of the cadgers. those were your front pages . your front pages. so let's have a look at the front pages in a little more detail, we are looking at the daily mail. cressida. labour has undermined israel, says netanyahu. >> yeah that's right. so this netanyahu. >> yeah that's right . so this is >> yeah that's right. so this is walkie talkies now, by the way, this is a new phase. >> we've moved on. >> we've moved on. >> oh, yes. okay. pages was day one. we didn't get the memo, but isuppose one. we didn't get the memo, but i suppose even hopefully not. yeah >> yeah. so i mean, they'll be scared to touch anything, won't they? >>i they? >> i think and that's exactly that's exactly right. >> of course. >> of course. >> and they and they will be. >> and they and they will be. >> what's very interesting, particularly about the walkie talkies and the pages, is they're all part of the same
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purchase. >> essentially, they were intercepted in hungary , it would intercepted in hungary, it would appean intercepted in hungary, it would appear, and they've been able to get in and inject these things with some sort of liquid explosive. >> and they did the pages. and then 24 hours later, they did then 24 hours later, they did the walkie talkies. and were they done? via like a message? is it like a, like a protocol that you can do over the, over the standard wi—fi or whatever, that they're generally receiving their messages on? that would that would be my guess, but because of the nature of the sort of analogue nature of walkie talkies and pagers, it's probably quite straightforward. yeah, it's probably not even 4g, is it? no. he just i think they they would have been using particularly pagers would be my guess because they're not as traceable as the telephone. no. of course. >> no, it's because previously, previously in the middle east, previously in the middle east, previously , some hezbollah previously, some hezbollah people had been killed with mobile phones. >> and so they thought, we're not falling for that again. well the paging mobiles moved on to pages. >> and so it's so what we should we should cover this story as well. >> then. yeah, yeah. >> then. yeah, yeah. >> so labour's undermined israel
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says netanyahu benjamin netanyahu has accused labour of undermining israel. >> our labour, our labour. yes. not our prime minister, keir starmer. >> in an interview with the mail, israel's prime minister attacked and then it runs out. >> i've only got the front page, so i don't know. >> did you hear any of this? yeah. so there's a bit. so this is he's i think he's quite clearly referring to the fact that labour are having to pass through some funding for a minority of, of weapons to israel. however, whether it's small or big, indifferent, whatever it negligible, whatever it is , labour seem to really be it is, labour seem to really be struggling at the moment. they seem to be struggling. they seem to be come across very naive, particularly on the geopolitics, because if you think about it, how well supported they are in the states, that's essentially a labour party over there. it's the socialist democrat party of the socialist democrat party of the states. they're of the same ilk in terms of their politics. but that obviously because of the history with the states and israel , they do support them. israel, they do support them. but they found a way of messaging it in a way that keeps everybody on board or most people on board. should i should
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i say labour? labour is a bit like children running the school. it feels like it feels like they're acting up to being grown ups and they're not quite achieving it at the moment. i would say in american politics and in terms of voting for relief and weapons and aid and so to on, israel and support, it's much more cross—party as a process, isn't it? there for sure. and there is a very powerful israel lobby. and there are you know, historical ties and historical sympathies. i mean , it's quite interesting to mean, it's quite interesting to me, and this is kind of going off piece, but joe biden never made any secret of his sympathy for the irish republican. no, not at all. and that traditionally is very closely allied to the palestinian cause , allied to the palestinian cause, isn't it? you know, which is so i mean, i don't know whether he goes around the back in that regard, but, who knows? probably not like out in the open. but, well, i mean, traditionally speaking, it's been basically death, hasn't it, for any american politician that does not regard israel as their greatest ally. you have to protect it at all costs. it would appear, but it does make i mean, when you talk about the irish and palestine and israel
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and it does make a mockery of the whole thing. when you think they'll pick one side and you'll believe they'll be ideologically opposed to something else when they're not. they're just it's just all politics. yeah. this serves us best, and it's obviously a lot of money involved as well. moving on to the telegraph, paul. yeah. and we're talking here about, sue gray, who's obviously the senior adviser to our illustrious prime minister, keir starmer. and the pm rewrites rules to pay sue gray more than he earns. he earns about 67,000 and 167,000. sorry. and sue gray will be paid 170,000. pipped him. yeah, yeah. now i don't for me, you know, civil servant salaries 170 166. considering the responsibility those jobs hold, they're not that particularly high. i know to many of us that's a lot of money. but considering you know what you'd be expected to be paid if you had that much responsibility in the private sector , it'd be three, four, sector, it'd be three, four, five times that, maybe a lot
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more. i tend to agree with you in fact, if anything, it seems to me the prime minister is not paid enough, which is not necessarily excuse having a bloke pay for his dresses, but we'll come on to that. yeah, exactly. and it's not really the issue here. what they're being paid, i don't think. i think the problem is sue gray here and she seems to have become this sort of de facto grand empress of labour policy. so she's pulling the strings in the background. and because of her history, you know, partygate with boris and sort of coming over to the labour party and sort of sitting in the background and there's been some really unpopular policies. we don't know how involved she's been has to be said . she didn't. she was said. she didn't. she was actually fairly evenhanded. i think with the partygate report, wasn't she. and actually that didn't bring down johnson. a lot of people thought that that was going to and he walked away from that and then came, came apart finally under pincher. i mean , finally under pincher. i mean, obviously it did some damage, but you couldn't really legitimately accuse her of having been partisan in that. i think i know it. having been partisan in that. i think i know it . possibly the think i know it. possibly the opfics think i know it. possibly the optics are dubious that she's now i think she was planning ahead, simon, so that she could do this pay rise and upset too
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many people. >> now, they're not saying that she organised this pay rise, but they're not exactly saying that she well, they sort of are saying she didn't. >> but but the next question is, you know, how did this come about then. and we don't know yet. >> also, can we just acknowledge melania trump dominating the front page of the daily telegraph as she defends her decision to do nude modelling in her latest book? and so do i? yeah i have been wondering when she was going to make an appearance. sorry, chris. i mean, why do the stories we plan about nude modelling? >> yes. >> yes. >> she looks she looks lovely. >> she looks she looks lovely. >> for a second i thought that was an example of the work. >> yeah, no, it's not. is it sculpted? no, that's. that's her dusted in glitter. you see, you can. you can't polish a first lady. what? on the front cover of the iron news. >> what's on the cover of the eye news, >> no nude women , >> no nude women, >> no nude women, >> rogue landlord, mp founded nursery firm accused of child safety breaches. so this is jack aylward, who's been in trouble lately for having properties that were. i think they were full of mould. they were
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substandard , not a good substandard, not a good landlord, is how it's looking in the press. >> and now it turns out that he started this nursery for, to be fair, we don't have a lot of information here yet. >> this is just front page, so there have been some breaches, but we don't know what they are yet. >> no, i think it's just mounting evidence, isn't it? this guy's coming across as really sort of a dickensian imperialist landlord, and i can't figure out whether, you know , you've got to remove the know, you've got to remove the politics from this. this guy seems to he's an mp, so he's going to come under criticism, but i can't figure out whether he is just a very negligent or he is just a very negligent or he just has such a large portfolio that he isn't in touch with what's going on at the ground level. either way, when you're a minister or you're an mp of a government of government party, you are going to be scrutinised, particularly if you're in the labour party and you're in the labour party and you're supposed to be for the people and they're really not doing a lot for the people. a dangerous child. yeah, yeah. i mean, you know, you've got some sort of oliver twist situation going on in, so it's hard to
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know. i mean, there is an awful like, you know, health and safety is as we all know, an elevated proposition these days. i wonder whether he would have passed ten years ago, but just hasn't quite updated protocols or whether there's lots of buzzing wires and unearthed appliances. >> i'm very reluctant to condemn him on this front page. >> it's this one to be continued. and finally, the king of the cages on the daily star. paul of the cages on the daily star. paul, it's our old friend keir starmer again. he's taken £100,000 worth of freebies. all sorts going on, swifty tickets. footy tickets. coldplay tickets. i mean, he's got some dodgy . i mean, he's got some dodgy. he's got some dodgy taste, but he's getting it all for free. it's just the optics again. yeah because he stands as one of the biggest hypocrites. now because you've not even got to go back too far. just watching patrick's show before ours is. it's only a matter of months since he was criticising tory mps for doing exactly the same thing. now he. this is why i talk about naivety when it comes to these people, because he thinks he's getting away with it. because he's
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declaring it. yeah. now you as a minister, as a prime minister, you probably have to declare a little bit less. actually because you are given stuff as, as particularly as a cabinet minister and a prime minister, you're given more than the average mp. and he thinks that by just coming out and saying, i'm giving all this stuff, but look how great i am at being transparent. he's going to get away with it in some way. i kind of feel that, you know, you've got to go on a case by case basis. i have no problem at all with him being offered hospitality at the arsenal ground. that seems to be quite reasonable. you can't expect him to buy a seat at the stands, you know. and anyway, that should be a play anderson does. >> he's made a song and dance about it. >> you can certainly expect him to if he wants to, but you can. i think you can certainly say that it's reasonable. on the other hand, i do think the dresses and all of that business was a bit weird. and i'm sure if he, you know, if he had declared it and come clean about it, that would have been fine. but it is. it's mucky, isn't it? and it is unrealistic. his his salary may be not as high as it should be for the job, but he's you know, he's had some he's a wealthy man. he's a wealthy man. he's had a decent income for a number
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of years now. and i believe his wife is i think i think they shoot themselves in the foot. he talks of change and there's been absolutely zero change in terms of, well, this would be considered a form of sleaze. perhaps, you know, in the background there's been no change in terms of that. he's pointed the finger and it's bent round and pointed back at him. he's made it a talking point. and now he's reaped the whirlwind. well, those are the front pages coming up after the break we have after sue gray loads more people who've been given the money we have saved by popping the money we have saved by popping pensioners in the cold storage this winter. we
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and welcome back to headliners. your first look at thursday's newspapers with me, simon evans, christopher witton and paul cox. so the times now paul and an end to the train strikes, which have been such a devastating inconvenience to the 3% of people who still leave their house to go to work in the morning. good point. train drivers accept 15% pay deal
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ending two years of strikes. i don't think there was any negotiation involved. i think they just went, how much do you want? but anyway, drivers at 16 train operating companies voted 97% in favour of the settlement, with a turnout of 89%. this is according to aslef , and the according to aslef, and the three year deal is worth nine k to most drivers. that's a lot of money, isn't it? over three years and will boost the average salary from what i believe was 64,000 to £73,000. as an average for a train driver, and they will receive , it goes on to say will receive, it goes on to say sort of 5% year one, 4.75% next yean sort of 5% year one, 4.75% next year, and so on and so forth. and this will also be backdated and added to their pension. so it's a very, very good deal. and you know, the nine k's is a big is a big amount. and you know part of me is like good on him. they've done the deal. they've got the money. but nine k would heat a lot of old people. >> well i think it's a massive i mean it's like you get half a prime minister for this. >> it's what i think is i think perhaps the percentage of the deal is, is reasonable. i think
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what strikes me is more disproportionate is what they are starting from. you know, that 60 4k like they're extremely well remunerated for what amounts to a fairly low skilled job, really. i mean, i don't want to like, sound like i know everything about it, but we all know the extent to which it's automated and so on. now there's a lot of controls and mechanisms. you're inside, you're in the dark, you're not you're in the dark, you're not you're not confronting danger, are you? you're on a track. yeah. it's not like you can take the wrong route. it does feel like they've got a pretty good deal like they've got a pretty good deal, but on the other hand, i mean, as you say, good on them. anyone who's unionised and can get get a wage rise to, to elevate themselves to the level that inflation has, has impacted on the cost of living over the last few years would obviously be well advised to do so. obviously there are some jobs where it's easier than others. >> blame the player, blame the game or whatever the phrase is, but it's just at the time when we're hearing about old people starving to death and not being able to heat their houses, i find it so distasteful. >> well, i suppose the thing is, again, playing devil's advocate to some extent , but there have,
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to some extent, but there have, you know, it has cost the economy an awful lot of money. the amount of strikes. i live down in hove, you know, we've been disrupted by it and i've usually managed to work around it. i haven't actually missed work. i've usually just had to, you know, wait for the next one or go back home and get the car in. but, i suspect a fairfew in. but, i suspect a fair few million quid of has been lost one way or another. absolutely. so does that not just only go to prove that striking works for them and it sets a precedent now, and that opens a whole other discussion. it does feel like a lot of money, and it does feel like just bad optics . feel like just bad optics. again, i keep using the same phrase, but it's this when inflation comes in, isn't it? because we had we had a couple of decades when inflation wasn't a serious problem and we forgot what it was like. yeah, obviously labour governments are another factor when they are beholden to the unions. to some extent. but it's much harder to argue for that when inflation is 1 or 2%. but, you know, things have in aggregate gone up by 20 to 30% in the last three years, you know, and they're not coming back down again. >> well, now that they're happy, do you think we're going to have cheerful staff and a brilliantly
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running railway. >> and there won't be. >> and there won't be. >> absolutely not. that's another nine k if you want that. the obsession with benefits management must end, say labour in the telegraph, not the obsession with benefits. i'm sure labour considering call to scrap 35 hours jobseeker rules. >> so apparently there's a rule that you have to spend 35 hours seeking work if you're unemployed to get your benefits. how do you go about proving that? i don't know. >> well, that's a great point there. doesn't the article doesn't tell you how they measure that on your phone. exactly >> but you sit in the job centre filling stuff in. you're not on facebook, are you? >> i don't know, little fitness apps that you can share it, but. exactly. yeah, exactly. >> i mean, it's a funny thing to try and monitor is 35 hours is a full time job. well, yeah. and i can hear my dad saying, if you wanted a job, you'd be spending 30, you know, and there are some people who would spend 35 hours doing it. but anyway, so unemployed people on benefits should be asked to complete at least three job hunting activities each week instead. >> that's what this think tank is saying. so i don't know what
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a job hunting activity is. >> a job presumably turning up actually at the job centre. is it maybe or at a local library or something? and proving that you're online? i don't know. yeah, yeah. and they again, they don't say how they're going to measure any of this. you know, like you say, it's become 35 hours is essentially a full time job. i'd say three job applications, if you did it properly might take you about seven hours. so they've reduced this by a fifth by 4/5. sorry if four days of those five that you'd be working to try and find a job and but you know, i can't disagree with the fact that it seems a little arbitrary to have 35 hours. and particularly as we don't know how it's being measured. but, because it fits into this kind of narrative, again, that labour are for the work, shy to some degree. and i'm not suggesting that's true. but the trouble is this does support people claiming benefits, because basically you're saying to those people that are claiming benefits, you've got to do less work to do so . and whether that's true or so. and whether that's true or not, i can't say i've never been through this process myself. and
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i imagine it's quite demoralising. but it does seem to be a lot of work out there. obviously menial work, low paid work, and they do go on to say that the report also proposes that the report also proposes that those receiving benefits in low paying jobs would have their requirement reduced as well, because they were also spending a minimum of 35 hours a week to try and find work, as well. so they're doing they're doing a job that's low paid and then having like a second job that's unpaid to try and find more work so they can so they don't take so they can so they don't take so many benefits. it is dangerously close to being sort of on a, on a tag, isn't it. like a like an asbo or something. you've got to try and elevate people's morale. independent. now paul, john major has broken his silence over brexit, rwanda and his decision to join the lib dems. by decision to join the lib dems. by the sound of it, yeah, john major backs tony blair. this pair honestly over brexit and migration immigration. sorry impact. so speaking to the bbc's amol rajan, sir john impact. so speaking to the bbc's amol rajan, sirjohn had agreed with former labour prime minister tony blair that that far from reducing migration as
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proposed by nigel farage, good old nige gets a mention. boris johnson and others brexit exit from the eu has increased immigration and replaced europeans with more people from further afield. now interestingly, that's probably true. but one thing i would definitely argue in this case is it's not necessarily brexit that's caused that because brexit has given us the ability to manage our immigration policy and we've made no changes. you know, you could say no immigration whatsoever. net zero by tomorrow. you could say that it's within our power to do that now, but we haven't followed through. it's quite interesting that there's been figures released in the last few days which have changed the narrative a little bit on the economic benefits of immigration. i don't know whether you probably covered that on the programme i wasn't on, but i think they're saying 150 k per like individuals and so on. a distinctly starker, bleaker picture. you know , elevates picture. you know, elevates total gdp. but gdp per capita has not improved as a result. and a lot of the arguments for it. but as i've seen people saying occasionally on social
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media quite lately, you know, brexit as as in the break from the eu was just the first step. you then need to start electing a parliament that is sentimentally aligned with brexit and wants to take advantage of the opportunities. and we still haven't achieved that yet. so have who knows what might come out of it. i will say this i did find it quite distasteful that he said that the rwanda plan was comparable with the with the sending the transportation of criminals to australia in the 90s. that's a good point. i read that. i mean, that's just absurd. i mean, i'm that'sjust absurd. i mean, i'm not saying it was a great plan. it was arguably not workable. it was it was probably just like kind of absurd on the face of it. but it wasn't it wasn't treating like like rural, you know , strike, strike organisers know, strike, strike organisers as if they were. >> absolutely not. this is just telling me that john major is very out of touch. where's the working class? left school at 16. have you had any sense he'd noficed 16. have you had any sense he'd noticed that everyone's into oasis now and he'd think, oh, i'll play that card instead of which he's cuddling up to. >> i will say john major and
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tony blair, probably between them caused brexit far more than, than than david cameron did. it. was it was their, you know, full speed ahead endorsement of the of the successively more integrated eu project. i create a bit of a being given an option to express our views that draghi i very much the jimmy savile and gary glitter of uk politics. i find the more, the more time goes on, the more, the more time goes on, the more, the more time goes on, the more you learn about them. it's distasteful. wilder's now jib wilder's is a beast according to the eu and the guardian anyway. >> well, dutch government led by far right pvv asks eu for opt out from asylum rules. so the dutch want different rules to everybody else. yeah, they're saying we can't possibly take all these migrants. and of course the eu don't like it. and they say, oh, we can't possibly do that. then everybody else will have to have extra and it's not going down well at all. so this at the moment, this is looking this is looking very unlikely because they're not going to let them. they won't get it. >> but i suppose the builders will then say, well if you're
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not going to let us have that, then what? you know, and that's obviously the next stage, isn't it? you've got hungary already, you know, refuses to take either its fair share or to kowtow. the afd rising in germany. i mean, everything's on the move. as i've said before, the irony is, you know, britain leaves the eu and the eu, the remaining states swing wildly to the right and kind of anti anti—immigrant. well, that's exactly it. and i think the though all of the countries across europe did look, you know, they might not have liked what, britain has done, but they would have looked at britain and gone, well they're not stupid. no. you know, it's been painted as stupid brexit but we're not stupid. and therefore, what was the problem . and they've looked the problem. and they've looked deeperin the problem. and they've looked deeper in that and they've discovered what it was now of course the eu commission aren't going to like this, you know, and particularly interesting how the guardian here have decided to pick on geert wilders. but there'll be lots of they'll be there'll be lots of they'll be there countries like germany sitting in the background very quietly. interesting to see how this goes because they want to do similar things themselves.
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absolutely. there's only so many times that the guardian can refer to geert wilders as it does as far right, given that he is leading the parliament. i mean, basically they've shifted that window, haven't they? it's interesting. sorry, i'm not sure if we've got time, but it says they're going to include freezing on new applications. that's not on new limiting visas for families, not on new, making people making living conditions as basic as possible. now, that's something germany have also done. there's nothing within that really that i would consider to be far right. no, they are stringent. some of his history and some of his rhetoric. but anyway. yeah. oh yes. yes that's it for part two. coming up we have bernie the bolt the knives are for julia. and free has its limits in
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sensible i think . no charge for sensible i think. no charge for women held after sharing fake name on southport suspects. this is bernadette spofforth. spofforth sorry . bernadette, 55, spofforth sorry. bernadette, 55, a mother. i don't know why they've always got to put their age in there, but 55, a mother of three and former swimwear designer, was arrested last month on suspicion of stirring racial hatred by spreading the fake muslim name of the suspect, which of course, most people remember was ali al kjt . and she remember was ali al kjt. and she had said that, that it was this chap and that he was an asylum seeker and had been put on a boat last year and was on an m16. boat last year and was on an mi6. however she'd copy and pasted that from someone else, and she'd also said, if true, which i think is an important point to make. but essentially what she's done there is , is what she's done there is, is take is been caught up in the moment. she's got 53, 000 followers. so she's quite prolific on twitter . i've seen prolific on twitter. i've seen her on twitter. yeah. likewise tweets or something. she just called and she yeah, i've seen her or so and i think i think
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it's sensible decision. i think it's sensible decision. i think it was a stupid mistake to make. she admits that openly herself. she admits that openly herself. she did have it. she did remove it within an hour. it's part it's not isolated to the riots and so on though, is it? it's part of being on twitter, which i think i find it rather distasteful, and i'd like to think i've managed to avoid it in my 15 years on twitter is to be part of the breaking news community. do you know what i mean? you want to be the first with the news. you want to be just like, take that look off your face. you know, that kind of, oh, i've i've heard something. oh, and people like someone's dead. usually used to these kind of red lights on, like the ones on police cars. oh, yeah. yeah, yeah. and we, i mean, they do it on both sides. carol vorderman does it all the time when something when she's got something from the newspapers, you know, it's not something that she personally is breaking but she's, she's excited to share the news. it gets you a little. it gets you traction. it gets you a little bit of a, you know, a dopamine hit. it's extremely dangerous because unless you are a verifiable, you know, unless you're a news agency who's got sources that you've learned to trust, as we've seen, you can
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make a life for yourself. >> in this case, they're saying there was insufficient evidence. and at first i was a bit confused because you think, well, they know that. she tweeted. presumably somebody who doesn't like has got a screenshot , but it says the screenshot, but it says the website. logically, that's the name of the website, right? which uses open source investigators and data science to report on misinformation , to report on misinformation, published a report claiming that she was the source of the name . she was the source of the name. but it's then. so what's going on here? it's then found out that it's fake news. i don't really understand. i don't understand who they are or what they do. are they going around looking for this kind of thing? >> i don't know who they are. no. she wasn't the source of this name. no she wasn't the first person to come out with this information. but there was a lot of it swirling around that night. but if they've said as the in one instance, that she was the source, we're not going to trust them next time, are we? >> because next time this happens, it's going to be the same. yeah, same situation. >> yeah. well, i think what a lot of the next time anything like this does happen, people will be biting their tongues . will be biting their tongues. people will be careful, you know, not to get involved in spreading disinformation
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because, you know, obviously the punishments have been have been severe and that is going to be the intention of and i don't know whether you'd say it was of starmer or the court system or the judges or whoever i think he loves. it's not going to last forever , because i think there forever, because i think there is still definitely a sense, you know, in this country and in america as well, that whenever there is some kind of atrocity, then there is news management going on and people don't like it. how comfortable is kept from them when it's clearly known to them when it's clearly known to the police and it could be released because they're trying to massage the reaction to it, and people aren't going to put up with that forever. good point . up with that forever. good point. yeah, a pair of star crossed lovers now in the guardian crescent and of the two actors who played romeo and juliet recently, one might have thought it would be spider—man who would attract the most online discourse. but no, oh no black actor who faced abuse over role in romeo and juliet calls for industry wide action. >> so this is francesca amanda rivers, who played juliet alongside spider—man. tom holland . yeah, and so she
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. yeah, and so she holland. yeah, and so she apparently had a barrage of holland. yeah, and so she apparently had a barrage of abuse when she was given the abuse when she was given the role. i think we covered it role. i think we covered it months ago. we did. and she says months ago. we did. and she says it hasn't stopped , but we don't it hasn't stopped , but we don't it hasn't stopped, but we don't exactly get a clear picture of it hasn't stopped, but we don't exactly get a clear picture of what's happened. it says she's what's happened. it says she's revealed she's received hate revealed she's received hate mail and that she didn't feel mail and that she didn't feel safe while working on the play. safe while working on the play. and then she talks about she's and then she talks about she's 26, she's quite young and she 26, she's quite young and she says that the minimal set and says that the minimal set and the close up camera work of the the close up camera work of the production made her feel very production made her feel very exposed on stage. and i thought exposed on stage. and i thought louis schaefer should have been louis schaefer should have been cast. she's sort of saying he cast. she's sort of saying he would have loved that. she would have loved that. she doesn't like the attention and doesn't like the attention and the overexposure. well, it reads the overexposure. well, it reads a bit like that, i don't know, a bit like that, i don't know, anyway, she says, it's been very anyway, she says, it's been very mentally tough and she's calling mentally tough and she's calling for further support. yeah, yeah. for further support. yeah, yeah. >> i don't know how. i mean, i'm >> i don't know how. i mean, i'm not not that i dispute her not not that i dispute her experience, her lived experience experience, her lived experience of it, but i don't know how much of it, but i don't know how much abuse she has actually got. i abuse she has actually got. i think it is possible for people think it is possible for people on online, for instance, to say, on online, for instance, to say, i don't think it's right casting i don't think it's right casting a black woman as a 14th century, a black woman as a 14th century,
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what is it , a black woman as a 14th century, what is it, voronin, you know , what is it, voronin, you know, with google and so on that people are allowed to express that view as long as they don't use abusive language and so on. do you know what i mean? well, and that's i think sometimes examples, i don't know, quite. yeah. >> telling me to how feel but not why. so i'm very sorry that she's not on twitter. >> so i don't know whether she was on twitter. and i actually looked it up. i don't know where she i think it's her instagram account. maybe. i assume so, but i don't know where from what i remember, the reviews were pretty favourable and actually it was tom holland who got the worst reviews. people say compared to his screen work. well that's interesting. >> i wonder if he feels safe, i don't know. >> yeah, but it's odd, isn't it, as well. it sounds like they had cameras and then a back screen protection or something, even though i didn't see it myself. no, i don't have any issue with black women playing a traditionally white part as, as it as what it would be. no, no, of course not. i wasn't suggesting anyone else did, the only issue i'd ever have with
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god , abuse course they go, oh my god, abuse misogyny. you know, moore newman is being counselled for. >> the problem with that is that it's not the people who are writing the negative comments who are being misogynist. it's if that's how cathy newman perceives it, she's making her being a woman at the front of that rather than her being a bad interviewer. sorry, cathy, in this case, because i don't know what's happened. i don't know, i don't know what the abuse said. >> which is not to say we want to see a newspaper article full of racist. no, no, absolutely not. but you have to. your antennae twitch. anyway, here we move on. susan cambridge . paul. move on. susan cambridge. paul. oh yeah. well done. if you want a free ride, that is. yes, absolutely. brilliantly done. by the way . i would have believed the way. i would have believed it, you know, hoping that that was okay and there's no ofcom. wouldn't it be brilliant in that. >> no idea. >> no idea. >> free transport scrap for engush >> free transport scrap for english speaking children but kept for welsh speakers. so this is bridgend county borough council and they've said that they've made the reluctant decision to stop providing
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travel for children aged four or unden travel for children aged four or under. and those 16 or over. however, the local authority will continue to lay on transport free of charge for pupils who attend welsh medium schools where pupils are taught and converse in welsh, welsh medium . yes, this is like welsh medium. yes, this is like welsh medium. yes, this is like welsh medium. yeah, exactly . doris medium. yeah, exactly. doris stokes. yeah, i don't know. maybe they only speak to dead welsh people and, and maybe they don't understand them. so how can we possibly believe them? but i mean it's clearly discriminatory. it does seem i mean, normally i would normally argue against discrimination. so we're leaning too far on one way, but it is . and what way, but it is. and what a peculiar thing to choose to discriminate against the sounds that come out of a child's mouth. there's no reason. essentially, that's what it is that if you're a welsh speaker, you would find it harder to get into school under your own. not at all. i mean, obviously as if i don't know if they're using trains or not. but obviously the solution is to learn welsh, but it seems a bit much. well, it's a good that's a good incentive, i guess. can you see any sense
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of reason in this? >> i can't, but i think the, the welsh conservative shadow transport minister, natasha asghar, she's had the day, the best day of her life hasn't she. she's this is shocking decision. she's this is shocking decision. she's just clutching her pearls, having a whale of a time. >> i would like to see the welsh language maintained, sustained, encouraged. you know, i do think that's proper diversity and proper heritage and so on. it's a wonderful thing. this seems like a slightly we have to do the converse because that's what we do in, in the media is we have to say what if this was a, you know, we were in birmingham and saying only native english speaking children could get the bus free. well it's not dissimilar. it's a good comparison. and it would cause outrage. i think they probably meant to be well—meaning in some way, but they've got it incredibly wrong. it's falling down the cracks last quick story down the cracks last quick story down to my local now, cressida, for a bit of free speech. argy bargy. >> yeah, free speech group kicked out of brighton pub after saying children shouldn't be taught trans ideology. so it's just as it sounds. i mean, imagine setting up a free speech group in brighton. good luck with that. but they tried. they
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had their little salon thing where they wanted to meet and have conversations and say things like, i don't believe i'm gender critical, etc. etc. all of that and the pub weren't having it. the landlord is said to have disapproved of one of the speeches speeches. that sounds quite heavy, but anyway, yeah, regarding the teaching of gender ideology and the next thing you know, some security guards come over and ask them to leave. and i'm reluctant to name the security company because i don't think they can do the right thing here, can they? >> no, you probably don't. if the landlord says the security company would want these people removed from his premises. their premises? yeah. so they're a day you can name the premises though, presumably. yeah. which is the southern bell. the southern bell. so if anyone feels strongly about that issue one way or the other, they can decide not to go to the southern. exactly. yeah. >> well, tony, for part three, join us in a couple of minutes for quarrelling r , working class warriors poush boomers. >> see you
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welcome back to the final section of headliners. the independent. kick us off. they have resurfaced accusations of bullying cressida between two of the comedy world's most respected atheists , ricky respected atheists, ricky gervais, accused of bullying by former touring partner and comedian robin ince. >> i don't know if the bullying is between them. i think it's going one way. one way. i think it's i don't know quite how else to put it, but i know what you mean. >> yes. >> yes. >> mr gervais is a bit of a character. i mean, i remember this from years ago. seeing the footage of them on tour, the dvd extras. yeah, that kind of thing. and ricky gervais is raison d'etre is to ruin robin ince's life is the conceit, but robin ince is kind of saying it was sort of true. >> yeah, he was quite bullied. he did it to that other chap, didn't he? in the podcast, ricky. karl pilkington, he didn't seem to mind, didn't seem to notice. but then robin is quite i mean, robin, by his own estimation, is neurodiverse, very adhd. he says that getting the diagnosis really switched the light on for him. of course, every comedian
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as we know now is adhd, but i think he genuinely is and, you know, possibly more fragile than he seemed. i don't know, ricky is i've only encountered i knew him a little bit. we had the same agent for a little while, and he is he's kind of always on, if you know what i mean. yeah, yeah. which can be tiring, i guess. yes. i mean, it's not unknown, is it? it's kind of a clash of worlds. yeah. robin and ricky, in terms of , ricky ricky, in terms of, ricky gervais, you kind of within his element. this story to me is very much ricky gervais bashing. yeah. it's designed to make us dislike the reader. >> to be fair, the headline is much more inflammatory than what robin ince actually says. >> yeah, he didn't. he didn't specifically go on to a podcast and call out ricky gervais. he was asked a bunch of questions, which he answered honestly in his own voice. yeah, and it is very difficult, you know, i've seen it myself. and when he does it with karl pilkington, it's hilarious. now, in order for these things to be hilarious, everyone's got to be on board. it becomes a little bit dodgy if
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one party is not on board with the shenanigans. i agree it's a hope that robin feels now that he's pulled the mirror. are dubious that kemi badenoch is working class . well, i'm sorry, working class. well, i'm sorry, but that's how the one drop rule works. yeah yeah, exactly. yeah. tory leader hopeful kemi badenoch mocked for mcdonald's working class claim to the tory leadership. hopeful kemi has been mocked after claiming she became working class after she got a job at mcdonald's. simon, i'm not sure that that's what makes you working class. eating there every day like me might do . there every day like me might do. yeah. she worked. she worked at a branch of the fast food chain while she was doing her a—levels, but then went on to work for coutts, which is the private bank. that's a bit more. so, i mean, that isn't the usual career progression for for the the mcdonald's worker. i worked i studied law at university in southampton mid 80s, and i got a saturday job at mcdonald's. i really hated it. and because i was the only i wasn't even like economically middle class, but obviously an undergraduate doing law, i was perceived to be town
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boys and girls that work there did not like the students. i was given all the worst jobs, including on one occasion being told to unblock a toilet with nothing more than my bare hands and a bin liner. oh my goodness, the 80s! great times wouldn't happen now. i mean, that probably still happens in southampton . made me more middle southampton. made me more middle class. i mean, i differentiated myself from them. i recoiled so hard with the excrement of the working class. we'll do that to you. after the fall of the soviet union and the best pope ever , poland is now once again ever, poland is now once again showing the way in its treatment of its old folks. this is in the guardian. >> don't fear the boomers . how >> don't fear the boomers. how poland is celebrating its old people and making life better for every age. that sounds nice, doesn't it ? so obviously not doesn't it? so obviously not obviously, but it says while the rest of europe worries about a silver tsunami of demographic bomb, that's a bit harsh. the cities of how do you pronounce this ? this? >> wroclaw and krakow probably rattle off and krakow. >> yeah. excellent, they're treating it ageing as a good
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thing. really. all they've done is thrown a lovely hat parade for old people. >> yeah, that's probably quite patronising. they love it. get them out of their hats . them out of their hats. >> it depends who you are. because we all get more introverted as we age and i'm not sure. >> lovely poem. it was voted the nation's favourite poem about when i am old i shall grow old disgracefully. i shall wear a purple hat and stuff. >> when i'm old i shall wear purple. yes, and eat £16 of sausages and go on a big march with my hat on. well, it's nice to see old people on a march that isn't calling for something dreadful. >> like marching. marching is so good for the health. i've always said this. the health benefits are almost like coordination, fresh air, a sense of community. some of the marching in poland building has been a bit iffy, though. simon telegraph, now paul junior doctors are to get a new name. it reminds me of when mr dog changed his name to caesan mr dog changed his name to caesar. yes, i remember that. i do . junior doctors rebrand do. junior doctors rebrand themselves as residents instead of the demeaning job title. so doctors union has voted successfully for the doctors that were called junior doctors
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to be now called resident doctors because it was misleading, because they weren't necessarily so junior. but unless they live in the hospital, resident doctor is also slightly misleading . i also slightly misleading. i would say. yeah, it's a weird alternative, isn't it? it doesn't suggest seniority. it suggests locum just. yeah, just just there a lot. yeah. yeah. like borders or something. >> i don't understand what's wrong with junior doctors. >> just junior does sound a little bit like boy scouts or something. like, you've got your doctor badge, you know, but you're not really a professional. i mean, they've usually put in about eight years of studying, haven't they? oh, yeah. you trust them over lewis schaffer. get that. they should just call them doctors and then start applying other epithets senior year to see exactly whence you were. so you go in at doctors with language, isn't it? >> somebody comes along, well—meaning, tries to tidy it up, and then we just slouch into something else. >> correctness. yes, it's gone mad. we have not got time to do our story about boffins interfering with the traditional british pint, so i do apologise for that . but the show is nearly for that. but the show is nearly oven for that. but the show is nearly over. let's take another quick
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look at thursday's front pages , look at thursday's front pages, the telegraph new phase of middle east war after walkie talkie blitz. the mail has. labour has undermined israel, says netanyahu, by which he means the british government. the express walkie talkie blasts in second wave of attacks. the inews rogue landlord, mp founded nursery firm accused of child safety breaches. metro secrets of israel gadgets blitz and finally the daily star, the king of the cadgers. those were your front pages. that's all we have time for. my thanks to my guest, christopher wetton, who also did a lot of work on the production side this evening, and paul cox, who did nothing . josh side this evening, and paul cox, who did nothing .josh howie side this evening, and paul cox, who did nothing . josh howie will who did nothing. josh howie will be here tomorrow at 11 pm. with kerry marx and daniel o'reilly. if you're watching at 5 am, stay tuned for breakfast. otherwise, good night . otherwise, good night. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather
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on gb news. >> hello. good evening. welcome to your latest gb news weather update. a lot of cloud to come in overnight tonight across eastern areas. that will make for a fairly dull start to thursday with the best of any brighter weather across western areas. so we do have an easterly wind at the moment. that's because high pressure is set over to the north and east of the uk, bringing in that easterly wind, and that's what's going to drag in the cloud overnight. once again tonight, i think the cloud is going to be more extensive tonight compared to previous nights. and it'll probably linger a little longer into tomorrow morning. we could see some drizzly rain over any high ground as well, but with the strength of the breeze and fairly extensive cloud, it's going to be another mild night away from the clearer skies across the further north and west parts of northern ireland and western scotland in particular, seeing a very fine start to the day and with a fairly brisk breeze across more southern areas, the cloud should start to break up quite quickly across more southern areas of
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england, but across more northeastern areas, parts of central england. it will linger through a lot of the morning, even across parts of eastern scotland , aberdeenshire in scotland, aberdeenshire in particular, seeing some fairly extensive cloud , possibly some extensive cloud, possibly some sea fog as well. first thing. and across eastern coasts of scotland , northeastern england, scotland, northeastern england, it will probably stay quite cloudy through a lot of the day, and cloudy and cooler day to here come compared to today. but elsewhere that cloud should clear away quite nicely after lunchtime to leave another dry and fine day for many areas. but nofice and fine day for many areas. but notice there'll still be a fairly brisk easterly breeze as well, particularly across the parts of the channel coast. but despite the breeze, it's still going to be feeling pretty warm for september. temperatures climbing as high as 26 degrees. another fairly dull start to come on friday, and that's when we see a real switch in our weather as once that cloud does clear, we could see some fairly heavy and thundery showers developing across a lot of england and wales , and it's england and wales, and it's going to stay quite unsettled for more southern areas all the way through the weekend until
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gb news. >> good evening . well, more >> good evening. well, more extraordinary exploding devices in lebanon this afternoon. but what does it all mean for the middle east? and can we expect iran to come back with a very strong response? public sector pensions talk about a ticking time bomb. talk about a black hole. forget about your 22 billion. we keep hearing about from labour. this is a biggie. and the big story in the sun today that walk free whilst those that say nasty things on facebook go to prison. is this two tier justice? all of that in just a moment.
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>> good evening. i'm sophia wenzler with your headlines at 7:00. first to the middle east, where israel has declared a new phase of war as its army turns its attention to the northern front with lebanon. it comes after another wave of explosions have reportedly killed 14 people and wounded hundreds more in beirut. it's understood that walkie talkies have been targeted in the latest attacks, rather than pages. it comes as hezbollah has launched rockets at israel, marking the first cross—border attack since explosions rocked lebanon. the terrorist group have accused israel of what's believed to have been a remote attack, targeting hand—held communication devices. the israeli defence forces say they did strike a hezbollah target last night, but they declined to comment on the explosions. 12 people, including two children, were killed in the blasts and nearly 3000 remain in hospital. 19 iranian revolutionary guards were also killed in syria.
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that's according to reports on saudi television. now, back in the uk, drivers from the aslef union have overwhelmingly backed a new pay deal from the department for transport, ending a dispute that began in 2022. the deal promises drivers a 15% pay the deal promises drivers a 15% pay rise over three years, with almost 97% of the union's members voting in favour. since july 2022, train drivers have walked out for 18 days, crippling services across england. but with the new agreement, passengers can look forward to some long awaited stability on the rails . now, in stability on the rails. now, in other news, buffer zones will come into force around abortion clinics in england and wales from the 31st of october. it will make it illegal to protest or hand out anti—abortion leaflets within 150 metre radius, or obstruct anyone using or working at an abortion clinic. those convicted of breaking the new law will face an unlimited fine. a
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