gb news. >> good morning, i'm ellie costello alongside ben leo and this is saturday morning live. >> very good morning to you. great to have your company this morning. and we have an action packed show today. our top panel is louis oakley and esther stanhope . have a look at what stanhope. have a look at what we're up against. >> the journalists are obsessed with who is going to be the next conservative leader . conservative leader. >> and the truth is, i don't give a who the next leader of the conservative party is. >> nigel farage. dubbed the tory brand bust and broken, will be crossing live to birmingham for day two of the reform party

conference. >> and today marks 80 years since operation market garden, where paratroopers in the netherlands launched a daring offensive against germany in world war two. our man on the ground, charlie peters, is there for us. >> some 700 paratroopers from eight different nations will jump eight different nations will jump here at ginkel heath in the netherlands to commemorate operation market garden, one of the most audacious missions in british military history. >> we'll be talking to doctor ross perry, the go to mole expert in the uk. he's going to be showing just why it's so important to get your skin checked after a summer holiday . checked after a summer holiday. >> and we'll meet the ex—fiancee of katie price. the reality tv star who will tell us all about her latest endeavours in the reality world, including why he thinks she needs to lay off the selfies .

selfies. >> and i am so, so pleased that we are going to arnhem today and we've got charlie peters there on the ground for us in the netherlands because it is incredible what those brave men did on this very day. 80 years ago, landing on a bridge surrounded by germans, ultimately being overwhelmed. but they paid the ultimate sacrifice. >> yeah, of course, did some brilliant d—day reporting, and it's been dubbed the alternative d—day, which the allies lost, didn't they? they lost the battle. >> well, this didn't have a happy ending. you know, this was not a victory. it was a defeat. but it's so important to remember the defeats as well, because those are the men that ultimately laid down their lives for the freedoms that we have today. yeah >> charlie peters. charlie peters will be live with us also. we'll be going live to birmingham, where nigel farage rupert lowe , lee anderson, all rupert lowe, lee anderson, all the reform boys there at the party conference, the autumn conference where we have some very funny clips, including lee anderson tearing up the bbc licence fee live on stage. yeah, it's been very performative,

hasn't it, so far. >> on day one of the reform conference, we were saying it's quite american. >> yes, very. lots of sort of balloons coming from the ceilings, lots of decorations. and nigel farage kicking off his speech, i think we have a clip talking about his spectacles and saying, these don't cost two grand a piece. >> yeah, they know exactly what to do, don't they? so we're going to have all of the details from day two of the conference today. but before we do anything else, sophie reaper has your news headlines . news headlines. >> thank you. ellie, it's 10:03 >> thank you. ellie, it's10:03 and >> thank you. ellie, it's 10:03 and these are >> thank you. ellie, it's10:03 and these are your latest gb news headlines. today is day two of the reform conference in birmingham, with speeches expected from senior members of the party. last night, the party's leader, nigel farage, told supporters that he believes reform can win the next general election, given the number of people that agree with their principles. he also explained what drove him to stand as clacton's mp. once the general election was called earlier this yean election was called earlier this year, at almost every level

we've been betrayed. >> and then i thought about what was happening on our streets and frankly, i thought of myself. britain is broken . and then britain is broken. and then i couldn't help it. but if britain is broken, then logically britain needs reform. >> mr farage will also give the farewell address later this afternoon. angela rayner has announced plans to make irreversible changes to devolution laws across the entire north of england. speaking ahead of her speech at the labour party conference tomorrow , the deputy pm has tomorrow, the deputy pm has committed to handing power back to areas such as lancashire, greater lincolnshire , hull and greater lincolnshire, hull and east yorkshire. she also said that the new government will harness potential in the economy in order to allow innovation and growth to bloom in every part of the country . this year growth to bloom in every part of the country. this year marks growth to bloom in every part of the country . this year marks the the country. this year marks the 80th anniversary of operation

market garden and the battle of arnhem. celebrations in the netherlands this weekend will commemorate 80 years since 1900. allied troops parachuted into the then occupied country with the then occupied country with the aim of recapturing the bndges the aim of recapturing the bridges of arnhem. throughout the morning, the contemporary equivalents of those men are recreating the drop at ginkel heath in ada, jumping from an aircraft into the same place our troops would have landed eight decades ago . a snap poll will decades ago. a snap poll will open today as members of the national education union will vote on pay and funding. teachers and education professionals in the uk will have until the 30th of september to either accept or reject the government's offer of a 5.5% pay rise. this comes after chancellor rachel reeves agreed in full to follow the recommendations of the school teachers review body . the met teachers review body. the met office has issued a further weather warning, with heavy rain and thunderstorms forecast for the rest of the weekend. the alert will remain in place

throughout today , covering throughout today, covering wales, the midlands, the southwest and parts of the south east. the forecaster has warned that people should expect damage to buildings as a result of lightning strikes, disruption to pubuc lightning strikes, disruption to public transport and flooding, all within the affected areas . all within the affected areas. and tonight , anthony joshua will and tonight, anthony joshua will challenge daniel dubois for the ibf world heavyweight title at a sold out wembley stadium. the all—british fight will see joshua try to take the title from dubois in an attempt to join the likes of muhammad ali, lennox lewis and evander holyfield by becoming a three time world heavyweight champion. things remained relatively calm at the weigh in yesterday, although both fighters have said they will do whatever it takes to win . those are the latest gb to win. those are the latest gb news headlines for now. i'm sophie reaper more from me in the next hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts .

slash alerts. >> thank you, sophie, and welcome to saturday morning live. now, thousands of people have gathered in the netherlands to commemorate the 80th anniversary of the allied operation to take the bridge at arnhem. it was dubbed operation market garden. >> the british, dutch and polish paratroopers marched to honour the forces who fought a week long bloody battle to try and capture the bridge, but almost 2000 allied troops tragically lost their lives in an ultimately futile effort. we're now joined by gb news reporter charlie peters, who's on the ground in the netherlands for the latest. good morning charlie, thanks for joining us. a real honour for you to be there and indeed for us and the viewers to hear about this occasion . occasion. >> yes, it's been an extraordinary morning. so far. hundreds of paratroopers from eight nato countries making a drop to replicate the heroic efforts of the thousands , tens

efforts of the thousands, tens of thousands of airborne forces who landed on the opening days of operation market garden in september 1944. and i've just been told that of the 90 strong contingent of members of the british airborne forces that dropped it includes the chief of general staff, the most senior member of the british army, sir roly walker, was a part of that jump. also involved was the general officer commanding of one division, the commander of the field army and also the brigade commander of 16 air assault brigade, which is the heir of the forces, the first airborne division that fought 80 years ago this week in that heroic but ultimately futile effort to hold a bridge , a effort to hold a bridge, a bndge effort to hold a bridge, a bridge too far in arnhem. we've also had all four commanding officers of the four parachute regiments in the british army one, two and three para. our regular four para are reservists. they cover the mountain, but they're ready to deploy anywhere in the world at

very short notice. they are held at very high readiness, but today they have the great honour of jumping eight miles from arnhem, where british forces jumped 80 years ago to start that campaign . that march that campaign. that march towards the 12 bridges they needed to hold. now, as i said, it didn't work out. they didn't achieve their objective. they weren't able to establish that bndgehead weren't able to establish that bridgehead into northern germany. which field army montgomery monty wanted to get. he wanted to bypass the siegfried line and the defences further south along the border with france and germany. but it was a spectacular failure. there were catastrophic logistics errors, intelligence failures, potentially also the egomania of senior officers and their hubris of wanting to be the ones that won the war. they wanted to be responsible for finding a back door to berlin. it didn't work out, but it did devastate german forces in this area. it did

start the liberation of the netherlands, and it was part of an ultimately successful, continued attempt to liberate europe. it's worth noting, ben and ellie, that in the time that we've been thinking about this commemoration, 80 years since operation market garden , many of operation market garden, many of the forces that were fighting in that operation, the garden part of it was a ground operation. that's 30 corps from the british armoured division . they were armoured division. they were coming up from normandy. now earlier this year we commemorated d—day on june the 6th, 80 years since the start of the liberation of normandy, france and the rest of europe. think about everything you've done since the celebration of the 6th of june. think about elections, travel, friends, trips with your family. think about everything you've done in that entire time between now and then. 80 years ago, those men were fighting desperately to get to where i am now, up to the netherlands, to establish a link with those airborne forces who had put down an aerial armada , a

had put down an aerial armada, a corridor for their men, their colleagues in tanks to follow. they fought desperately, but the brave men of two para who held the north side of that bridge too far in arnhem, now named the commander of two para. they couldn't hold out long enough for those to arrive. they were meant to be liberated and supported and relieved within just 48 hours. but they had to hold for on several more. many of the british prisoners of war who were captured had not eaten for four days. but there is a grand ceremony taking place today. a display, but also a commemoration. this is an opportunity for forces to replicate the actions that their forefathers took 80 years ago, andifs forefathers took 80 years ago, and it's also an opportunity for the dutch and the allies, who have gathered here to remember those who fell in that tragic but heroic conflict, and that great attempt to push into northern germany. >> charlie, i'm so glad that you've drawn those parallels to d—day, because we celebrated the 80 year anniversary. and i say

celebrate because it was a victory there. it was this great, great show of bravery and courage. but it was a victory. but it is so important also to talk about the stories of defeat and to talk about the futile efforts, because it doesn't make it any less courageous. and it is the ultimate sacrifice, isn't it, for our freedoms. and that is so, so important that we remember these brave men who ultimately laid down their lives for us. >> yes, it was a tremendous sacrifice. and i've just been speaking to several members of 16 air assault brigade in the background here. we heard from major philpott from the royal horse artillery, the brigade's airborne artillery. just a moment ago, he was telling me, along with some of his colleagues, that every single paratrooper in the brigade is desperate to be part of this jump. they have so many battle honours from goose green in the falklands to conflicts in iraq and afghanistan, and several others between them , but they others between them, but they always look to arnhem. this

ultimate display of heroism from the parachute regiment embodies the parachute regiment embodies the grit , determination, the parachute regiment embodies the grit, determination, daring, spirit and unyielding commitment to victory that they have. they always look back to this moment, even though it didn't end with the success that they wanted . the success that they wanted. the subsequent objective wasn't achieved. they didn't get both sides of the bridge. this they say , demonstrates the say, demonstrates the characteristics and the traits they want to see in paratroopers. always a little further, always fighting to the end . they gave their final radio end. they gave their final radio signal out of ammunition. god save the king. they did not surrender. they fought to the end and ultimately british forces were able to push through into germany through other means. >> okay, charlie peters, thank you. on the grounds, on the ground, rather in the netherlands. thank you. we'll touch base again throughout the show. a message from cynthia williams, who's a gb news member who says, well done to gb news for the arnhem coverage. and thank you for giving us the brilliant charlie peters he's reporting or has reported from

israel. he's done work on the grooming gangs and now this fantastic, informative piece on arnhem. to time remember those heroes who gave us our freedoms. >> so many of you getting in touch on this this morning, charlie peters is the very best, says judith. and john says seeing these things on gb news, the only tv station to be covering to be covering the parachute jumps live on air. excellent. do keep those thoughts coming in for those brave heroes that ultimately paid the ultimate sacrifice 80 years ago today. >> okay, let's move on. because the big story over the past couple of days from the reform uk front, of course, is the conference kicking off in the biggest ever? birmingham? yeah. tom harwood said that yesterday. it's the biggest ever. and i thought, isn't it the only one ever? but of course they have been running for, they have been running. >> yeah. but they had obviously a very successful general election campaigns. now the pressure is going to be on building that momentum. >> yeah. so lots of speeches yesterday from the likes of the leader himself, nigel farage and earlier mr farage took aim at the prime minister over the cash for clothes scandal with a rather. well, let me let me show you. take a look.

>> yeah . >> yeah. >> yeah. >> do you like him ? very >> do you like him? very expensive . not expensive. but expensive. not expensive. but guess what? i bought them myself. how about that ? myself. how about that? >> well, we're joined now by broadcaster and author louis oakley and the broadcaster esther stanhope. really good to see you both this morning. and just taking a look at that clip from nigel farage. he's certainly knows how to play to his audience, doesn't he , esther? >> he absolutely is the number one opportunist. he takes any topical story and turns it around so he can show off because he is a good showman and i do think that he's the price of those glasses is a very important talking point. two grand a pop, two and a half, no more than £2,000 for a pair of glasses. where is he getting? that's extraordinary. extraordinary. exactly. so look,

i think nigel farage is an opportunist. he wants everything to be bigger and better and bolder. and they've doubled the price of the tickets for the reform party conference. they've got 70,000 members. he is riding on a wave. and right now labour is not looking good in the in pubuc is not looking good in the in public opinion is it? no. not doing too well. >> yeah. it's come at the exact right time. the reform conference louis oakley with all the alleged blunders labour are making. >> yeah it has and i think that even just in that clip that kind of being comical on stage, that's what the appeal is of him. and of that party. you wouldn't see starmer mocking another politician in that way, and i think that people like that, they like that kind of down the pub, i can have a drink with him and i think that that's one of the reasons they're doing well. obviously labour is not doing really well, but then could they really be expected to do well? i think a lot of people that they got a massive amount of seats, but i think everyone forgets like it wasn't a landslide as much as a sinkhole. it was because reform and the tories sort of split that vote.

they had a lower vote share than with jeremy corbyn, so they were never going to be that popular. so yeah, i mean , great time to so yeah, i mean, great time to have your conference as as it's all imploding around you. >> we had we had lee anderson. i'm not sure if we've got the clip, but lee anderson taking to the stage for his speech and he kicked it off by tearing up the bbc licence fee as a reminder letter, i think, which lee received. and he tore it up live on stage before kicking off his speech. esther >> yes, i mean, look, any any sort of theatrics i totally approve of because i care about stagecraft, you know, and it's a stunt , isn't it? they're full of stunt, isn't it? they're full of gimmicks. they're full of stunts . gimmicks. they're full of stunts. they kind of stage, they choreography, they choreograph their conference speeches and like the bbc licence. oh, this is this is going to be another hot potato. the bbc are not in a good and they're not in good shape. and we're going to be talking about, you know, scandals today in the show as well. but i mean, the bbc licence is just now something's got to be done about it.

>> but i do think stunts aside, it is time for reform to get serious because, you know, they they had a good showing in the last general election , obviously last general election, obviously only resulted in five seats. i know that, seats, but 14% of the vote share. so i mean, this is the odd thing . reform got 4.1 the odd thing. reform got 4.1 million votes, resulted in five seats, lib dem got 3.5 million, resulted in 72 seats. >> yeah, they got more of the vote share than the lib dems. yeah. >> so it is time for them to get serious. >> in what way? what do you mean get serious about? >> okay. how are you actually going to play the system? you've got more votes. fine. but that's not the system we have. you've got to get those seats. so i know that nigel was talking the other day about stealing the lib dem playbook. maybe that could work for them. to be seen if they could replicate that. but i think , you know, have all your think, you know, have all your jokes all you want. but if you want to be a serious political party, you've got five years. because i think the excuse last time was we had five minutes to get ready. nigel didn't know if he was in or out until like a few weeks before people went to the polls. well, you've got five years now, so you're not going to have that same excuse. and don't forget, you've got all of the disheartenment with the tories and their whole track

record of how long they were in power, and people felt that they weren't doing enough. you're going to have five years now where they can try and clear that slate a little bit . so if, that slate a little bit. so if, if they, they could lose votes again to the tories, it's not saying they're going to be able to increase the vote. so i think it is a time to get serious. >> okay. we're just going to go back to the netherlands where charlie peters is on standby, because i think there's a parachute drop taking place as we speak. charlie, what's happening on the ground ? happening on the ground? >> well, you've just seen the union flag just landing here. you've just missed them come down. but members of .uk regiments display team have just landed here at ginkel heath, which is where they've been gathering to display the commemoration for operation market garden. we've had the mass drop of forces, but just now we've captured red devils display team coming down in the stairs to display the drop zone , stairs to display the drop zone, the smoke coming out there, but also members of that display team coming down from a high altitude, much higher than the forces who dropped to

commemorate the operational jump . commemorate the operational jump. earlier. they had also the pegasus flag, which is the flag of airborne forces first used in 1942. the airborne division taking the symbol of greek mythology, and they still wear it today on their sleeves to demonstrate their flash. but here they are, all here on the ground. the parachute regiments, red devils display team. >> okay, charlie peters, there for us in the netherlands. thank you so much for showing that to us. and how powerful was that seeing the union jack? >> just i think we have when we come back in a few moments, we'll have a clip of the fall parachute jump. so we did slightly miss it there, but we'll have a full clip in just a few minutes. the last word to you on reform louis says they need to get serious, but i think they are nigel farage is saying they're reforming the party, excuse the pun, on the way it's managed. he's going to seize control of it. >> yeah. i mean, i don't think nigel farage will ever get really serious because he's not that sort of personality. i think he will. i think at the moment politics is about, you know, sniping at others and

looking for opportunities. i'm not sure how serious the reform party is in terms of something that that will it will take over from other other parties in the future. >> i mean, that's politics, though, isn't it? sniping at others and, you know, pointing out, no, you said you said it's a bit american, but that's the kind of american way everyone all they're doing is taking others like the glasses aren't bad. >> hahaha. let's all snipe at the others. and i would quite like to see people saying no , like to see people saying no, this is how i'm going to lead. this is what we're going to do in the future. this is how we're going to save the world. this is how we're going to make a difference. but oh no, let's snipe at the others. all right. >> farage reckons he can win or reform can win the 2029 general election. >> no way he thinks he can be prime minister. >> yeah. esther. louis, thank you very much. we'll be back with you after this short break with you after this short break with the other stories from today. we'll be looking at the papers

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just before the break, we were in arnhem watching that parachute drop from the red devils. here's the full clip of that very moment for you . that very moment for you. >> wow. so there we go. so there's. yeah. union jacks flying proudly overhead, the smoke billowing down. oh, is that it? is that the clip? oh, wow . wow. >> wow. >> you can just see the union jack. we've had some some comments from grumpy grandad who's a member. >> good morning, grumpy grandad. he said i've jumped into arnhem many moons ago now. the locals really love the british. you see pegasus, pegasus flags all year round, not just for this anniversary, but it's an amazing jump anniversary, but it's an amazing jump to do because of the history behind it. >> yeah, and i was reading about arnhem a little bit earlier on this morning, and apparently the british are just so special to the people of arnhem because they recognise the ultimate sacrifice that was made by the british to try and liberate them. and although those efforts were futile, it's a really important part of their culture. and there is so much well, they're just so grateful for the

british. and that is evident whenever you spend any time in arnhem. >> yeah. something we should be very proud of indeed in this country. patricia you say well done. gb news for your coverage of arnhem. i can't see any other channel covering this. we need to pay homage to these very brave men of whom not all survived. and indeed, i was looking at the casualty statistics the us lost. just under 4000 dead. wounded or missing. the brits and the poles lost between 11 and 13,000 dead or wounded , 6500 captured. or wounded, 6500 captured. imagine what they went through the prisoners of war and german casualties numbered seven. and a half thousand to 10,000. so bloody is an understatement. >> yeah, it truly is. and it's so right that they are honoured and remembered, just like those that were victorious on d—day because they are so often remembered, aren't they? and heralded. but it's right that those brave men in arnhem too, because they did lay down their lives for this country. look, we're going through some other stories in the papers now with our panel, we're joined by louis oakley and esther stanhope and

louis, let's start with free gear care, shall we? it's been the story of the week , and the story of the week, and apparently it's led to, well, calamity in the polls . calamity in the polls. >> yeah. so he has dropped by 26 points in in the opinion polls, and i mean, it's just been sort of going down from day one. he didn't even start that high. but yeah , i mean, this is just bad yeah, i mean, this is just bad optics, as we say. like he hasn't done anything illegal or wrong. everything was declared. but at the same time, you're telling people they don't get their winter fuel allowance and you're they're walking off with your swag bag. it's just not a good look. and even, you know, i was thinking as well, the optics of them trying to clamp down on mps having second jobs, you know, any of those could turn around and say, well, know, any of those could turn around and say, well , actually around and say, well, actually we have to pay for our own clothes . and i just think it's clothes. and i just think it's really it's just bad optics, that he's had. and, you know, we've got those comparisons of sunakin we've got those comparisons of sunak in the stands. he's just sat amongst the people. and, so prince william goes to villa games, albeit in the director's box, but it's not an 8—k per game seat. >> and by the way, can i just mention this isn't just an

isolated labour incident since the start of their tenure, they were accused of filling the civil service with previous labour donors, previous labour aides, people who worked for labour together think tank the civil service is meant to be politically neutral and they bypass a lot of procedures to get people into their positions, not least the chancellor , rachel not least the chancellor, rachel reeves, who parachuted ian caulfield, his name was, who donated five grand personally to her. and then he ended up in the treasury with a 170 5ka year job. yes, he did resign after it was revealed in the times, but it does make you wonder, you know, you spent years having a go at the tories for this and you do exactly the same thing. >> yeah, it's full of hypocrisy and also the whole sue gray thing. and they were slagging off the conservatives for not for, not toeing the line. and now they're being hypocrites because now they're taking freebies. and also rachel reeves accepted 7500 pounds for her wardrobe. now i've got. okay. so the first thing about the wardrobe thing i know it's the opfics wardrobe thing i know it's the optics bad, but come on, do they look as if they've spent

thousands of pounds on their wardrobe? i mean, they really ought to get another strategy for how to look good on camera. if you're i do think that you you need to spend a bit of money on your hair, wardrobe, makeup. if you are going to be a public servant. right. but accepting free clothes the way they did, it wasn't really transparent. but come on, surely somebody could style them a little bit better, don't you think? you can better, don't you think? you can be a bit more value for money? not good value for money. i'm not sure about angela rayner's big wide trousers as well. you know, they could do better with their wardrobe. >> they should have got a stylist as well. >> i think that i don't think that that i don't think a very expensive stylist is what we should be paying for. but surely they can. they can borrow clothes. if you and i know people send you rentals , don't people send you rentals, don't they? yeah, yeah, people send you. you said that somebody sent you. you said that somebody sent you some jewellery the other day. ellie. yeah >> lovely. yeah, lovely. but as long as you're open about it. yeah and honest about it. i think that the issue here and it is about optics because no rules as far as we know have been broken. but i think when you set

yourself up as a different sort of politician, when you talk about a crackdown on cronyism, you have to behave differently. you can't be seen to be anything like the tories that preceded you. >> well, i think this is that comes out in this poll that's been this poll. only 28% think that he's delivering on his promise of cleaning up politics. and that was one of the key things that he wanted to go in and do. so if you're failing on that and everyone thinks you're just in it for the freebies and for the glasses, the 2500 pound glasses, freebies that aren't working according to you should have gone to specsavers. >> we forget what came in return for these donations. >> lord alli, who has been around the labour party a long time, but he got an unfettered pass to number 10 for about four weeks. throughout all of august. why does he need that pass? and again, i asked yesterday, who are these people? you know what? who elected them unelected? how much influence do they have in government? and in number 10, sue gray. likewise, she's paid more than the prime minister. who are these people? i don't mean to sound like nicki from big brother all those years ago, but who are you?

>> is she. >> is she. >> who is she? >> who is she? >> yeah, i think that they really need to remember their place . as i was saying before, place. as i was saying before, they didn't win a landslide. they won a sinkhole. they weren't that popular to start off with. and so if you come in and you can't uphold the standards and the words that you said in the campaign of cleaning up politics, you know, the only place to go is down. so it's just a i think it to me makes me want to have more of a conversation about our voting system of how you can get less votes than jeremy corbyn, but still have a massive return of seats because of what happened there. i think we're dealing with a government that was never that popular to start with. so, oh, there's a landslide. >> yeah, yeah. and this is almost as if history is repeating itself. there was tony blair in his memoirs , said that blair in his memoirs, said that he came to regret hounding john major's government over standards and sleaze. he said it was a good media game and in opposition they played it, which is exactly what we're seeing happen before this general election. he said the goals were easy, but the long term consequences were disastrous. >> i totally agree, i'm talking

about sleaze and we are talking about, you know, the free clothes and everything. but the trouble is, it's too easy to snipe and say, look , look, snipe and say, look, look, they're awful. look how terrible they're awful. look how terrible they are. they're so sleazy. they're all hypocrites, aren't they awful? and that's something that trump always , always does. that trump always, always does. i want to see people coming up with some really good, bright ideas. what actually are we going to do for the country? what are we going to do for the people? i want to i want to feel. keir starmer caring more about people. i want to hear nigel farage caring more about what are we actually going to do and what are their ideas? how are we going to change the way we vote? how are we going to get more young people to vote? you know, the voting system is a joke . we need to do something joke. we need to do something about it. >> well, good luck with that. >> well, good luck with that. >> rachel reeves, keir starmer and whoever else has been bagging freebies and clothes have said we won't do it anymore. we reject any donations of clothes. so >> but please send them here. >> but please send them here. >> but please send them here. >> but yeah, please send them to my friend, >> shall we move on, lewis? what about mohamed al fayed? these really sort of horrific

revelations in the wake of his death last year that he allegedly raped five people? they did pop up, some years back when he was still alive. but the cps, who, by the way, i'll just mention, was headed by sir keir starmer at the time, deemed that it wasn't necessary to proceed and to look at and just to give balance to that. ten number have said in the last 24 hours this case, this al fayed case, never passed keir starmer's desk at the time, but yeah, we had a really sort of, quite graphic press conference yesterday. >> awful. i mean, awful and you kind of think how many more of these people come out of the, these people come out of the, the woodwork and you find out that they i mean, it's saying here, you know, it was sort of a 25 years of terror. he was getting away with this stuff. and no one could stop him. and he was too powerful. and it just, you know, and then it's coming to the light now, but he's dead. so even though, you know, you can sort of get criminal, you know, recognition , criminal, you know, recognition, you know, he's dead, he'll never face his comeuppance, which really angers me about things like this. and, you know, i kind of want to know , well, who knew of want to know, well, who knew about this? who was helping cover this up? who if it wasn't

keir starmer, who in the crown prosecution service decided there wasn't enough evidence here, and you just hope that we're in a bit of a different world now than when this went on. where anyone can pull out their phone and record some wrongdoing, where anyone can go on twitter and say, this is what's going on, that they don't have to fight to get their voice out . you know, that's the only out. you know, that's the only hopei out. you know, that's the only hope i have. and when you read these stories, you just think it's just too terrible. >> i just think it's safety in numbers, though. i think you don't really want to say, yeah, you know, i was sexually abused. it's just the courage you need to come out and admit that that happened to you. it all really started with lesley judd, is it? who talked about harvey weinstein? but you need somebody to be courageous first, and then the people come out of the woodwork. these 100 people are coming out. i just think it's so embarrassing. i mean, the whole thing, it's just you feel you'd feel really just ashamed of. you'd feel so ashamed if you had to be the first one to come out and admit that it happened to you. but clearly this has been a problem for years, and years. there's cultural issues. there's

systemic, rapists and in the workplace with people with power. these brave victims did come out at the time, and they were arguably let down by by institutions like the cps, who said that there was no case to answer. so then you wouldn't come out knowing that knowing that nothing's going to be done and you're not going to be treated well. you wouldn't come out one one. >> poor girl, even recorded al fayed raping her and then managed to pass it on to the police and a transcript to the bbc. i mean, it was horrific, but yeah, our thoughts go out to the victims and, yeah, we'll see how it how it progresses. >> lewis. esther, thank you very much. thank you, thank you. just important to say that a spokesperson for harrods has given us this statement. the harrods of today is a very different organisation to the one owned and controlled by al fayed between 1985 and 2010. it is one that seeks to put the welfare of our employees at the heart of everything that we do. >> okay, thank you both. you'll be back in the next hour. coming up, we have the mole doctor, don't we? we do. he's going to

be. >> he's spotted the mole on your leg. but you're okay. yes >> he said it was an insect bite from years ago and nothing to worry about. >> so we're very worried about that. yeah. keeping you up at night. but doctor, doctor ross perry will be in the studio. >> and also nelson aspen live from new york on the us election

race. we're having a giggle because somebody said ellie's always so excellently well dressed. and then she. what were you saying about your fake tan? >> oh, i always turn to the heavens. >> oh, i always turn to the heavens . i said yes, and they heavens. i said yes, and they said that you look like a scruff . yeah. >> someone. well, i'll tell you what they said. someone said i look like a disgrace next to you. >> it's not true. it's not true, it's not true . but thank you for it's not true. but thank you for saying that i look lovely, i appreciate that. >> anyway, on to more serious matters. if you have spotted a lingering mole or perhaps a mark somewhere on your skin, it would be smart. not to dismiss it. >> yes, post—summer sun exposure

can lead to moles becoming inflamed and potentially damaged, making it essential to check them for any changes. >> joining us now is doctor ross perry , the uk's go to mole perry, the uk's go to mole expert and the director of cosmetics skin clinics. good morning ross. thanks forjoining us. so look first of all, what's the difference between a mole and a freckle? i guess because after lots of exposure in the sun, you've been on a holiday somewhere. we all come out well, most of us come out with freckles on the face and so on. yeah. >> so moles are normally something that you genetically get. and you'll get them as you get. and you'll get them as you get a little bit older. freckles are related to sun, so they will p0p are related to sun, so they will pop out and so forth. so i think the main thing is if you have a freckle that persists or changes, then that puts potentially is quite worrying. but a mole will be there all your life really. so i think it's really just a case of knowing your moles and knowing what comes and goes, but what's there persistently. but i think there persistently. but i think the most important thing is new things, new or changing things that overrides everything else. >> and doctor, we've been laughing with you in the break,

haven't we? because doctor ross perry walked into the studio and the first thing i said was, hi, can you check my neck, please? can you check the mole? you've had your moles checked and you might have noticed esther stanhope is still with us on the sofa. because you would like a mole. check wouldn't you, esther? >> yes, because it's not a mole. it's something that my grandma used to have. and i was told it was sun damage. and my doctor worried me because she said, oh, can you take photos of it? as if this is something. i've got a mark on my head. this is very unglamorous. >> can we show the camera doing it? >> can we? i normally wear makeup. i will show you, i will, i will reveal there might be a bit of foundation on it, but thatis bit of foundation on it, but that is kind of like a sun damage. >> it's not. well, it's not it's basically these are very common, the first thing to say, but they look a little bit worrying because often they have multiple colours to them. they're a bit rough and a bit raised. but this is what we call a keratosis, i'm afraid it's something that you get as you get a little bit older. oh, right, but but they are completely harmless, but they can easily mimic something that looks quite nasty. so it's always best to get it checked, because it's very easy for me to say that now because i can

examine it and look at it. but actually, for you, you don't really know the difference. and it's quite difficult to say how much abnormality is abnormal relative to normal moles. and i think that's when, you know, if it's if it's changed, if it looks abnormal, it's if it's changed, if it looks abnormal , just get it checked. >> thank you so much. because i thought that maybe you had a sigh of relief there, didn't you?ifs sigh of relief there, didn't you? it's all right. it's all right . thank you so much, right. thank you so much, doctor. >> it is a worry that so? so many of us have, especially when you come back from holiday and you come back from holiday and you notice that your moles or your freckles might have got a little bit bigger or changed. what are you looking for when you when you can look at something and touch something and say, yep, that's fine. how do you know if something's abnormal? >> so i think change that's the simple one. so basically if it's new changing looks different from all your other moles. so when you're looking you want to compare a body part because there's no point just lifting up your sleeve and going is that one abnormal. you want to compare it to all your other moles. and that's the easiest way. and if it just looks like what we call the ugly duckling and just. yeah, exactly. well, it just looks different from all your other moles. and if it's changed often dark, irregular,

and often multitude of colours. those are what you're looking for. >> do you want to get yours checked out? >> yeah, i've got one on my neck, but i believe it might not be a freckle. now, after what you just described, i don't think we've got a close. >> i don't know if we can. >> i don't know if we can. >> so we can describe it for you. >> so it's a little bit raised and. >> and that worries me. >> and that worries me. >> so not all moles that are raised are worrying. it's often the flat, very dark black moles that you're more worried about okay. so it's got a relatively uniform colour which is the nice thing. so if it's a uniform colour and it does match your dress, but what you're looking for, if it's got irregular colour, irregular shape and irregular edge to it doesn't matter if it's raised, it's being something raised. >> this is raised. >> this is raised. >> i'm concerned. no raised doesn't always mean that it's worrying. often when it's raised, it catches. so then it irritates, bleeds and so forth. so it's not always the first sign that something's abnormal. however, if that does persist or carry on like that, then certainly get it checked .

definitely. >> thank you. okay, i have a question between a mole and a wart . wart. >> so in terms of what to look out for. >> so warts are completely different. so warts are generally rough. they're raised, they stick out of the skin. they almost have a cauliflower like texture to them. whereas moles are often quite smooth certainly in the early stages. but a warts can warts be cancerous as well as it very rarely, very rarely. so it's always generally moles. you can get other types of skin cancen you can get other types of skin cancer. that's the other thing that people don't really know about. so everyone always goes on about a mole being the worrying one, and it is because it's the most aggressive type. but you get non—melanoma skin cancers, which basically are predominantly due to sun exposure and those occur on your face, chest, sun exposed sites and can i ask you about skin tags? >> yes, i get them now and then on my neck. i think what causes them. and also when you get one, what do you do? can you just cut it off or is that safe or. >> yeah, so yeah, diy googling

sort of how to get rid of things is probably not the best way of doing things. skin tags, they're just from skin rubbing on skin and they're just little sort of growths on the skin, completely harmless. just leave them. leave them if they're not bothering you, if they rub or irritate , you, if they rub or irritate, then you can just have them removed. little snip or a little bit of freezing can just get rid of them quite easily. >> eddie's feeling a bit grossed out. yes. >> yeah, i'm not sure about all of this, but it is important to talk about, isn't it? yeah. advice would you give to people ? advice would you give to people? we've just come back from our summer holidays. what advice to stay safe in the sun and what should people be looking for on their bodies? >> so i mean, the common things are common if you're going out into the sun, wear a factor sunblock that's appropriate for your skin type. yeah, your fair skin, fair skin, fair skin . skin, fair skin, fair skin. >> you're something like ten i wore i wore factor six carat oil. >> but ross no hear me out i don't he's in your bad books i don't he's in your bad books i don't he's in your bad books i don't he is. yeah i think i've got a sort of background in my skin colour. i don't really burn and i tan very quickly maybe in. >> so yeah, by having that skin

type. yes. you are slightly more protected than say, for ellie instance. however, that is not the absolute. you can still have a high risk burning and so forth. >> factor six. >> factor six. >> yeah, you should be. yeah 3030 should be everyone's minimum . minimum. >> another question. sorry on tanning. so i'm keen on tanning . tanning. so i'm keen on tanning. it makes everybody look sunbeds healthier. no no not sunbeds. the higher the factor the spf you wear does it reduce the tan. >> well it will do. yes. so ideally you should all be on a 30 as a minimum. that's the basically the baseline. anything less than that you're not really doing yourself any favours 50 if you're fair skinned again you've got to protect your skin. and i think people are just trying to cheat it. and they go, oh, do you know what? i'll put the cream on a little bit less, try and get a little bit of a tan. they invariably get it wrong and they burn and that burn increases their risk. all right. >> doctor ross perry, director of cosmetics. thank you for being with us. thank you for returning, esther. yes. >> thank you doctor. thank you . >> thank you doctor. thank you. thank you doctor. >> really good to meet you. we'll talk to you all morning. couldn't we? but we can't, i'm

afraid, because we're going to new york where we're not actually, we wish we were, but we're going to be talking to nelson. aspen, who is in new york with the latest from the presidential race. that's

next. hello. >> welcome back. 1050 ben and ellie with you on saturday morning live only on gb news. and we're going stateside now where donald trump and kamala harris are locked in a tight race to the white house. there was, of course, another attempt on president trump's life this week, but the coverage seems to have gone a little bit cold. >> well, we're delighted to be joined now by journalist and author nelson aspen. as always , author nelson aspen. as always, live from new york. for us on a saturday morning. good to see you, nelson. i mean, it's absolutely remarkable, isn't it? a second attempt on trump's life in this presidential campaign. and the media just seems to have gone cold on it. >> it's very disturbing . in >> it's very disturbing. in fact, the secret service had to

give a statement yesterday and a subsequent press conference to try and justify that they are taking care of the situation. they're on top of the investigation. they did arrest a suspect, 50 year old 58 year old ryan ralph . and what's ryan ralph. and what's remarkable about this would be assassin alleged is that he's had over 100 run ins with law enforcement for various infractions over the years . and infractions over the years. and this is the problem with the state of america's law and order, is the recidivism, the fact that he could have had more than 100 run ins and not been on the radar. so fortunately, the attempt on former president trump's life was nipped in the bud before anything happened. trump in his, unusually comical style , managed to laugh it off style, managed to laugh it off by saying golf is a very dangerous game because of course, this this attempt on his life happened at one of his golf courses. so it is very disturbing. and the republicans are blaming the democrats for

their rhetoric. they feel that their rhetoric. they feel that the rhetoric of saying trump is a so—called threat to democracy is what brings this out, what inches is what brings this out, what incites this type of potential violence . and the democrats, violence. and the democrats, a lot of the democratic lawmakers are doubling down on that when they're called out on it, and they're called out on it, and they say, well, yes, he is a threat to democracy. so it is concerning. they have raised they being the secret service, they being the secret service, the secret service level of protection for former president trump is now at the same high level that it was when he was president , level that it was when he was president, as it level that it was when he was president , as it should be. level that it was when he was president, as it should be. he's not only the republican candidate, but he's a former president. and he does need that level of protection. >> yeah. and you know what? props to joe biden for that because that was his decision. he called trump again after that assassination attempt, as did kamala harris. assassination attempt, as did kamala harris . and you know, to kamala harris. and you know, to check he was okay. and indeed, joe biden did bump up his secret service detail. so props to him and credit where it's due. tell us, nelson, about kamala harris. she's been sitting down with oprah winfrey in an interview,

and i caught a moment when she accidentally mentioned that she would shoot an intruder in her home. did you see that? >> i did, and this was a very highly produced, very slick campaign event, sort of replicating the heyday of oprah winfrey's talk show. and it was talk talk show style format in a studio, beautiful lighting, 400 of her supporters as guests, including swifties for harris. good thing the swifties were there and thousands of people live streaming in, including the usual suspects of celebrities like meryl streep and ben stiller and chris rock. you know, all the all the cheerleaders. but yes, on the subject of gun control, when they got into the to the issue of firearms, kamala in her inimitable style of laughing, started laughing about how she herself is a gun owner and wouldn't hesitate to shoot someone if they broke into her house. it was a pardon. the pun. it was a misfire, i believe, on

the light way in which she handled it, but that's that's the nature of the beast. and that's what you get when you're sitting down in that kind of a format. i should call back if people don't recall this. it was oprah winfrey who introduced america in many ways to barack obama. it was a real pivotal moment for barack obama's campaign when she had him on her show. so maybe she's hoping she can do the same for kamala harris . harris. >> okay, nelson. aspen. i think there's, what, seven weeks to go until the big day? i say every week. i'm here for it, i cannot wait. we will chat to you again next week. thanks, nelson. thanks, nelson. >> short viewing party. >> short viewing party. >> no, we need to. >> no, we need to. >> don't encourage us. we want to be on a flight, don't we? thanks very much, nelson. do stay with us. lots more to come, including our showbiz selection. more of today's top stories and the latest boxing build up. don't go anywhere . don't go anywhere. >> looks like things are heating up. boxt boilers sponsors of weather on . gb news.

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climbing towards 20 c here, and some quite decent sunny spells for northern ireland into the afternoon as well. there are those showers then across parts of wales as we head into the evening , but we do get a second evening, but we do get a second pulse of thundery rain arriving as we head into the overnight period, spreading across the channel islands, and then it will be moving into southern areas of england later on during the second half of the night. again, some heavy pulses of rain are possible. it will cause some travel disruption and so the thunderstorm warning changes into a bit more of a rain warning as we head into sunday. a mild night for many of us, temperatures holding up around 14 to 16 c. but chillier underneath those rural skies of northwest scotland. for much of scotland and northern ireland, though, it is a relatively similar day on sunday. again, the best of the sunshine will be further towards the west with that cloud filtering in across the east. but for wales and the central southern areas of england, again, we do have those heavy pulses of rain, some thunderstorms developing at times and it is going to feel quite humid in amongst all of that temperatures. again, climbing to just around 2020 one degrees celsius. things turn cooler though as we head into the new working week, but still

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gb. news >> good morning, i'm ellie costello alongside ben elliott and this is saturday morning live . live. >> great to have your company this morning. it's an action packed show in store with today's top panel. louis oakley and the marvellous esther stanhope . there they are . stanhope. there they are. >> have a look at what we're up against. >> the journalists are obsessed with who is going to be the next conservative leader . conservative leader. >> and the truth is, i don't give a who the next leader of the conservative party is. >> nigel farage dubbed the tory brand bust and broken. we're going to be crossing live to

birmingham in about 15 minutes time, where nigel farage will be speaking at day two of the reform party conference and elsewhere. >> today marks 80 years since operation market garden, where paratroopers in the netherlands launched a daring offensive against germany in world war two. charlie peters is there for us. >> us. >> some 700 paratroopers from eight different nations will jump eight different nations will jump here at ginkel heath in the netherlands to commemorate operation market garden, one of the most audacious missions in british military history. >> and are you going to be tuning in for this tonight? anthony joshua takes on daniel dubois. but who will land those powerful knockout punches in the ring ? britain's youngest ring? britain's youngest promoter, ben shalom, will be here with us for the ringside gossip . gossip. >> married at first sight uk is back on our screens this week. is there such a thing as love at first sight? can couples still be matched blindly? while former married at first sight star april banbury will be here to

reveal . reveal. all. so do you think you can fall in love at first sight? >> no. i think you can fancy someone on first sight. maybe. perhaps even lust. dare i say it? but i don't think you can fall in love from first sight. >> no, i totally agree with you. actually yes. i don't think you can fall in love at first sight, but let us know if you have. if you've got a story, perhaps you're married now for 60 years after falling in love at first sight. love those. >> i love your stories. >> i love your stories. >> yeah, send those in. i think love develops over time because you become. you know, love is incumbency of encompassing, of sort of trust and memories. incumbency of encompassing, of sort of trust and memories . and sort of trust and memories. and that's nice when you have kids, that's nice when you have kids, that's a new brand or branch rather of love. >> i don't know when you get all deep and philosophical. >> it's very nice. well, let us know. >> what do you think is love a first sight thing or does it develop and mature over time, as i say? >> yeah. >> yeah. >> gbnews.com/yoursay before we do anything else, sophie reaper

has all your news headlines. >> thank you ben. it's just after 11:00 and these are your latest headlines . today is day latest headlines. today is day two of the reform conference in birmingham , with speeches birmingham, with speeches expected from senior party members. last night, the party's leader, nigel farage, told supporters that he believes reform can win the next general election, given the number of people that agree with their principles. he also explained what drove him to stand as clacton's mp once the general election was called earlier this yeah >> at almost every level we've been betrayed. and then i thought about what was happening on our streets and frankly, i thought to myself, britain is broken . and then i couldn't help broken. and then i couldn't help it. but if britain is broken, then logically britain needs

reform. >> staying with politics angela rayner has announced plans to make irreversible changes to devolution laws across the entire north of england . entire north of england. speaking ahead of her speech at the labour party conference tomorrow , the deputy pm has tomorrow, the deputy pm has committed to handing power back to areas such as lancashire, greater lancashire , hull and greater lancashire, hull and east yorkshire. she also said that the new government will harness potential in the economy in order to allow innovation and growth to bloom in every part of the country . later today, the country. later today, a march for palestine is expected to make its way through the streets of liverpool. organised by the palestine solidarity campaign. the group say their demands include ending the genocide, stopping the arming of israel and saying no to war in the middle east. they also say they'll be directing these aims towards the government at the annual labour party conference, which begins in liverpool tomorrow . this which begins in liverpool tomorrow. this year marks which begins in liverpool tomorrow . this year marks the tomorrow. this year marks the 80th anniversary of operation market garden and the battle of arnhem celebrations in the

netherlands. this weekend will commemorate 80 years since 1900 allied troops parachuted into the then occupied country with the then occupied country with the aim of recapturing the bndges the aim of recapturing the bridges of arnhem. throughout the morning. the contemporary equivalents of those men are recreating the drop at ginkel heath in ada, jumping from an aircraft into the same place our troops would have landed eight decades ago . a snap poll will decades ago. a snap poll will open today as members of the national education union will vote on pay and funding. teachers and education professionals in the uk will have until the 30th of september to either accept or reject the government's offer of a 5.5% pay rise. this comes after chancellor rachel reeves agreed in full to follow the recommendations of the school teachers review body , and the teachers review body, and the met office has issued a further weather warning with heavy rain and thunderstorms forecast for the rest of the weekend. the alerts will remain in place throughout today, covering wales , throughout today, covering wales, the midlands, the south west and parts of the south east. the

forecaster has warned that people should expect damage to buildings as a result of lightning strikes, disruption to pubuc lightning strikes, disruption to public transport and flooding, all within the affected areas. those are the latest gb news headunes those are the latest gb news headlines for now. i'm sophie reaper more from me in the next half an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . slash alerts. >> thank you sophie, and welcome to saturday morning live. and i feel bad now. i feel like we've been really cynical about love at first sight because the messages, all of you are just so romantic and it's lovely. michael says yes, you absolutely can fall in love at first sight. i asked my wife , my wife, will i asked my wife, my wife, will you cry? it's just so sweet. i asked my wife to marry me after four hours of meeting her 46 years together. we wonder where all those years have gone. oh. bless you. congratulations.

>> congrats, coral. >> congrats, coral. >> you said yes. definitely. love at first sight. just one look. 50 years ago and janie, you've literally just messaged this. a scruffy biker. oh, a scruffy biker sat me on his knee as i walked past in a pub in 1986. i definitely fell for him straight away. we were hardly apart until he died of copd in 2022. from the minute we met, he was my everything. so yes, i do think you can. >> oh bless you janie i'm sorry for your loss, but thank you for sharing that story. >> do keep them coming in. it's lovely, isn't it? it's heartwarming. it's beautiful. all of the horrible stuff going on in today's world. and just to hear about these, that's why i like this show. >> because we do shows in the week which are of course, you know, hard news. >> it's doom and gloom a lot of the time, isn't it? >> and although we do news on this programme, we mix it up with a bit of bit of, you know, lighter stuff, a bit of love. >> nice tales. yeah. >> nice tales. yeah. >> human stories. things that really do matter. gbnews.com/yoursay do keep them coming in. and just to lighten the tone, colin has been in touch saying, yes, you definitely can fall in love at

first sight. like starmer with his mirror gifted sunglasses and prescription glasses. >> very good colin, and you've provided a nice segue into the next segment, which is about politics, of course, because the reform conference continues in birmingham with speeches from the party's senior figures, including the leader himself, man of the moment, nigel farage. earlier, he took aim at the prime minister over the cash for clothes scandal. let's take a look . look. >> do you like him ? very >> do you like him? very expensive . not expensive. but expensive. not expensive. but guess what? i bought them myself. how about that ? myself. how about that? >> well, we can cross live now to birmingham, where gb news political editor christopher hope is. very good morning to you, christopher. and that is farage in his element, isn't it? farage, the showman, really seizing on this story, attacking

sir keir starmer and having fun at the same time. but there is a serious side and a serious political messaging as well to come. this weekend . come. this weekend. >> that's right. and good morning ali and morning ben here from birmingham, the nec, the national exhibition centre. that's right. the serious part of this, of this party over the shoulder of the camera operator, i can see a pick and mix stall and in a sense this party is like a sort of toddler on a sugar rush of that excitement from winning five mps back in july. but the hard yards, adolescence and the rest start shortly as they try and progress forward to the next election where they actually want to win it. now nigel farage have interviewed him just on the stand moments ago for my podcast, chopper's political podcast out tomorrow morning. he said he's now 6 to 1 to be prime minister in 2029. now that is a thatis minister in 2029. now that is a that is a zillion miles away from where we are now politically , five mps to 326 politically, five mps to 326 mps. that's more than half of mps. that's more than half of

mps in the house of commons is a huge step to make, given how weighted against the reform party and any new party our political system is. but the plumbing, the back office stuff starts to now because at 1115 this morning we'll be seeing on our screens. nigel farage signing the party's new constitution, which he gives away the shares, the control of away the shares, the control of a company that owns reform uk to the members. it becomes a party limited. limited by guarantee. the members own it. what that means is if more than half the members want a vote of confidence in the leader, they the board will look at doing that. if they have more than 100 mps and 50 mps want a vote of confidence in the leader, the board, the board will look at that. so it's trying to put a degree of control over the power of the leader, nigel farage. and that's difficult for farage. but if you have any pretence of replacing the tory party or becoming the party of government, which is what they are saying to us here in reform

uk, we've heard a lot from him overnight party last night i was at the crowd, serenaded farage, saying things like singing sing to him you're too good to be true. can't keep my eyes off you. there's no question this party, this event, two thirds bigger than or three times bigger than or three times bigger than or three times bigger than it was a year ago, has been energised by farage, energised by the 4.1 million votes they won in the july election. but how they kick on from here, that's the next challenge. >> yeah. chopper, as you've mentioned , farage revealed his mentioned, farage revealed his ambition yesterday that he wants to win, of course, the 2029 general election. but it's not just pie in the sky. he really thinks that stranger things have happened. indeed, on the top of my head, donald trump winning in 2016. what do you make of that ambition ? nigel farage for prime ambition? nigel farage for prime minister? are we going to see him in number 10 in 2029? haha ben, that's a great question for saturday morning. >> i mean trump trump did it from within the republican party. so what what farage wants

to do is outside of the tory party, outside of the normal parties, we have in this country, and that's what makes it so much more challenging without the kind of electoral reform he needs. if we have this, this pr proportional representation, if votes equal seats, he would have dozens of mps, not just five. and that's his challenge. but he thinks he's the once in a century moment that can happen. don't forget the whigs, the liberals. they were the party at the beginning of the last century and then labour replaced them. and so things can happen. we saw it happen in canada in the mid 90s when reform uk reform replaced the conservative party there. so it can happen, he wants it to happen. he has heard behind me someone cheering on gb news to i mean, there's no question we're a challenger brand. we're trying to overturn established brands in the broadcast world. well guess what reform uk is trying to do the same thing in politics. it's a hell of a challenge though, for them . them. >> it certainly is. christopher hopein

>> it certainly is. christopher hope in birmingham, thank you very much . very much. >> okay. we'll welcome back our panel now louis oakley and esther stanhope to go through the rest of the day stories any more to say on reform briefly. we've covered it in the last hour. we've covered it in the last hour . farage we've covered it in the last hour. farage for pm 2029. >> can you see it? i can't see it happening because with the conservatives and reform because that vote is split. whatever you want to call it, the centre vote, the right vote, whatever it is, because it's split. i just think labour will will be able to get in so long as it's split. so i just can't see the numbers and the system working to enable it. >> and then you've got the likes of robert jenrick speaking yesterday, saying that english identity is under threat, which sounds directly out of the reform handbook, doesn't it? so he's chomping at their heels . he's chomping at their heels. >> everybody is just having a big old party in birmingham, aren't they , with fireworks, aren't they, with fireworks, pick and mix taxis. okay, a few years ago i remember saying i think boris might become prime minister and i was laughed off the stage. i was laughed, you know, out of the room . but then know, out of the room. but then bofis know, out of the room. but then boris johnson did become prime minister. so, you know , stranger minister. so, you know, stranger things have happened. >> it's definitely a potential.

there's too much. we don't even know who the leader of the opposition is going to be yet. so let's see who they are, if they're any good. and events, dear boy, events like anything could happen before 2029 saying just let him carry on playing what he's doing here. >> nigel farage say, didn't he? he's not fussed anyway. doesn't give a who the tory leader will next be. esther, let's talk about something really important, shall we? which is, of course, winter fuel payments. and this is a story in the daily express today that 86% of the poorest pensioners in this country are going to lose their help with, with winter fuel payments. >> i just don't understand why. what is the point in, in in cutting winter the winter fuel allowance? i don't understand the benefit of it. what are the benefits? what are the risks? the risks are massive. the risks are people are going to freeze to death. people are going to really hate you, you know, but the benefits are what? you okay? you save money, but why that? >> labour's own research from 2017 said that up to 4000 pensioners would die if the tories took away that fuel

allowance. >> so why do they do it? i don't understand some people pounds black hole isn't it. >> it's. it's saving money is what they would say. they, they would say that the poorest pensioners will still get help. yeah. what the means tested. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> because it's means testing. >> because it's means testing. >> some people in the comments are saying well they know that they don't vote for them. so they don't vote for them. so they don't vote for them. so they don't really care if they are here next election. >> i think there's some truth in that. >> i would hope that no one is that evil, but i think the thing that evil, but i think the thing that really gets me about this is just that, you know, for all of us, we work our lives. you put away if you've done everything right, you know, you put into a pension and then to kind of face in retirement the idea that you can't afford your bills and that the help that you have banked on is not there. you know, if any of us sat here was struggling for money, struggling to put the heating on, we could all go and get second jobs. pensioners can't do that. and that's what makes it really insidious. they don't have any options. >> and i think it is also worth reflecting that these are people that have worked hard their entire lives, and they're also very, very proud people. even if they were freezing in their own homes, they wouldn't be the type

to come with a begging bowl. they wouldn't be the type to ask for help. these are the people that are going to really suffer. >> i know , i just think this is >> i know, i just think this is the most ridiculous, decision to decide to cut things. i think when you cut things and you make, you know, you have to save money. but when you're cutting things, how is the decision made ? things, how is the decision made? how does the conversation go? so what do we think the risks are ? what do we think the risks are? well, what what could happen if some people really have not got the money to keep themselves warm in the winter ? what are the warm in the winter? what are the implications of that? you know, that's quite an important conversation. do they not have that? >> i do almost think maybe there might be a last minute u—turn on the budget, like the budget will be awful for everyone and then they'll leave that out and then that could be their sort of maybe they're saving that for nearer the budget. >> when we had that story yesterday, didn't we. >> that national debt is now 100% of gdp . i mean, it's 100% of gdp. i mean, it's looking bleak. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> ahead of october. >> ahead of october. >> and i guess if you were a labour strategist, what you would say is, look, we've got a massive majority. let's do all the harsh stuff now and then spend four years, hopefully people will forget all the harsh

stuff we did in year one. >> well, the treasury's been given a £10 billion boost because the bank of england said they're going to pay back the national debt at a slower rate. so they've got £10 billion extra in the bank. the treasury, rachel reeves. but she's hinted that she regardless, she's not going to u—turn on the winter fuel payment being scrapped as some labour mps want, and she's going to carry on being with her strict fiscal path. so even though they have more money and they could plug the gap, they're still choosing likely to not do it. >> all i would say is everyone get involved , you know, go and get involved, you know, go and speak to your local mp, go and put that pressure on. write them emails, let them know this is not something that you want to see happening. if we put that pressure on, they are normal people and they will go back and then that pressure will go up to then that pressure will go up to the cabinet. so i think, you know, don't just sit around moaning about it, write an email, go and see your local mp. >> well, maybe i'm wrong, but i think most mps, especially at the start of a new government, would be more loyal to the party as opposed to their constituents because they've got five years to make it up to them. >> look, all the leaks that are already happening, that is very

true. they've got too many mps, and there's a load of mps that know they're never going to get near the cabinet. there's a load of people that have never been mps before. so actually it's quite hard to manage that. many mps, which is why, you know, the honeymoon period. >> i mean, forget what the pubuc >> i mean, forget what the public think, but within labour is certainly over , isn't it? oh is certainly over, isn't it? oh yeah.the is certainly over, isn't it? oh yeah. the briefing that's going on. >> do they have a honeymoon though ? talking about love at though? talking about love at first sight, i'm not sure how much of a honeymoon they really had . had. >> okay, should we move on to the sun? page five. yeah. everyone's favourite sports broadcaster, gary lineker, is to cut his pay for match of the day. so he's in talks with the beeb over a multi—year deal for match of the day. after taking volunteering rather to take a pay volunteering rather to take a pay cut. >> yeah, so he is volunteering £350,000 to knock off his salary, so he'll just be taking home a comfortable £1 million. so, you know, maybe he'll need some clothes donations as well, but you can't really argue with that, can you? he's he's taking a cut. he's saving us all a bit of a bit of money. i'm sure that money will be spent better elsewhere. >> i think massive salary , isn't it?

>> it is still a massive salary. >> it is still a massive salary. >> it is still a massive salary. >> i think the thing with things like this is that i don't know how much of a peel and, you know, i'm not the biggest football fan in the world, but you know how much of an appeal does gary lineker have? and when you think of the bbc, where it's not really out to make a profit, i really feel like jobs like that should go to young upstarts, young presenters getting in new talent rather than paying the old talent £1 million. >> yeah, i reckon esther, if you ask match of the day viewers, do you tune in to see gary lineker or do you tune in to watch the football highlights? they tune in to watch the highlights, watch the football highlights and fall asleep on the sofa . and fall asleep on the sofa. >> they don't care about gary lineker and all of his cronies and all of his mates. he gets the same people in again and again. look i think talking about optics, because we're talking about optics today, aren't we? about the clothes and everything. gary lineker, the optics, what a hero. that's what he's doing . he's making himself he's doing. he's making himself look good by by giving back in his, in his way. i mean. absolutely. we want new talent. i want i would much rather have more voices and different people on match of the day i watch it occasionally with my family. i

wouldn't tune in for myself that much. >> i can never have the same people, the same people all the time. to be fair, the plot twist here is that was it jermaine jenas? >> was that his name? last time he was was kind of like, set to take over or that was the rumour. but now obviously that's not going to happen. so it might have been that gary was out the door and they've actually said, oh, actually stay a bit longer. >> yeah. and also it gets him a few headlines. it also gets him in the good books. how could they possibly axe gary if he's putting his his money down. you know i think he i think it's strategic . strategic. >> well it's not bad money. it's. how long is the show. it's an hour show isn't it. once a week then a bit of prep. how long is the prep ? long is the prep? >> i can't imagine very long. >> i can't imagine very long. >> you watch the games. >> you watch the games. >> he just watches football. it's basically. >> what would you be doing in his spare time, i reckon. exactly. >> i reckon it's five hours a week for a million. >> yeah. would you do it? good work. if you can get it, i'll do it , mate. it, mate. >> i'd do it for 500 grand a yeah >> i'd do it for 500 grand a year, let alone a million a yeah >> one point just 500. >> one point just 500. >> it's very generous of you. yeah, or even 250. >> i'm easy. >> i'm easy. >> we'll put in a good word for you. >> i don't think somehow the bbc

would touch me with a bargepole. but >> oh, esther lewis, thank you very much. >> thank you. thank you , thank >> thank you. thank you, thank you both. >> good to see you today. >> good to see you today. >> all right. sticking with the sport theme, do you like your boxing? >> no, i don't like watching boxing . it's a bit violent for boxing. it's a bit violent for me. do you like it, >> i like it . yeah. >> i like it. yeah. >> i like it. yeah. >> i'll. will you be watching tonight? >> the thing is this this fight tonight is £20 pay per view. >> that's quite a lot. it's a lot of money. >> i'd rather maybe buy a takeaway and watch eastenders or something. >> yeah , i think you're better >> yeah, i think you're better off doing that. >> and you can watch the highlights the next day on gb news. yeah >> the reason we're talking about boxing, of course, is if you didn't know, but tonight is the big fight between anthony joshua and daniel dubois that's set to take place at wembley this evening. we're going to be joined next to get all the analysis by top and britain's youngest actually boxing promoter. see you in a

tick. hello. welcome back. 1124 ben and ellie with you on saturday

morning live on gb news. lots of lovely emails about love. do you believe in love at first sight? i said perhaps, maybe not. >> i agree with you for once . >> i agree with you for once. >> i agree with you for once. >> yeah, saying no. i don't think you can fall in love at first sight. >> i reckon it's maybe fancy someone is what we're saying. yeah, i think you have to. >> maybe i'm wrong again. let us know what you think. but i think you have to fancy someone first. and there needs to be a physical attraction before love can develop. >> but you've all proved us wrong. and you're all a lot more romantic than us, it would seem, sharon says after meeting my husband in italy for the first time, i came back and i told my hairdresser that i had met the man that i was going to marry, and he hadn't even asked me out yet. now we've been married for many years. we're mostly happy. apart from when he doesn't share the custard tarts equally. oh, that's that is love right there. >> i love that grumpy grandad you said yes. you can fall in love at first sight, but is it love at first sight, but is it love or lust that grows into love? i think it's a bit of both. >> basically what you said. >> basically what you said. >> yeah, i reckon it's lust. >> yeah, i reckon it's lust. >> yeah. and john andrews says love is when you hold your child for the first time, or when you hold your grandchild for the first time. i bet ben was crying. i bet you were as well.

>> yeah, but i cry really easily anyway, i did i did cry when i cried when my boys started school last week. >> and i'll tell you, that's very sweet. >> but that's a kind of different love, though. parental love is different from romantic love, isn't it? >> well, do keep those views coming in because we love reading them. gbnews.com/yoursay i'll tell you another thing that makes you cry. what sport? >> yeah, yeah , definitely >> yeah, yeah, definitely anything about the olympics. >> any sort of emotion. >> any sort of emotion. >> somebody winning anything you are a little bit. no i am a bit. you do start to cry. do you know what it is? >> i love it, i love people achieving things and winning. and i imagine them training for years and getting up in the rain goes into the back story. >> yeah, gets a bit much. i imagine their family in the crowds and, you know, making that phone call to the mum after winning, i just think it's brilliant. >> and. >> and. >> yeah, boxing make you emotional. >> boxing does. yeah. yeah, i remember when. yeah, i love boxing. i remember pacquiao facing floyd mayweather back in the day, yeah. but the big news tonight is anthony joshua of course, is set to challenge daniel dubois for the ibf world heavyweight title at wembley stadium. it's being billed as a massive british blockbuster. and

joining us now to discuss the knockout night ahead is ben shalom, who's the founder and ceo of boxing promoter promotional company boxer. good morning ben. thank you for joining us. and just just before we start, you are apparently the youngest british boxing promoter in the uk, i believe. so how old are you? >> i'm 30. not for long. i started when i was 23 years old, so. wow, it's still been seven years. how old is, say, eddie eddie hearn i he's nearly 50. >> okay. has he given you any sort of words of advice or words of advice? >> i wouldn't say that. >> i wouldn't say that. >> what does he say? keep off my patch. >> exactly. yeah. >> exactly. yeah. >> okay. what about tonight, then? anthony joshua, daniel dubois, massive british bout. who's going to win ? why is it so big? >> it's huge. look, first of all, turki al sheikh and his excellency riyadh season have brought all these promoters together, all the promoters, all the fighters and created this blockbuster card. we've never seen this in british boxing. you always have one fighter over there, one fighter over there . there, one fighter over there. every fight on the card is a main event. so it would sell out his own arena, but it's all been put on one. they've extended the

capacity in wembley to a record 96,000. this is the historic event. anthony joshua and daniel dubois topped the bill in an all—british world title fight. but yeah , tonight liam gallagher but yeah, tonight liam gallagher is there and the entertainment that will just be off the scale and i think it's one of those moments in sporting history. it really is that that people will look back on and remember we're seeing pictures now of joshua and dubois at their weigh in. >> how are they both looking to you? who do you think is going to win tonight? >> look for me, i'm a big anthony joshua fan. i think he's been here before. he's been at wembley stadium before. he had a lot of criticism after the two oleksandr usyk defeats, but he's come back so strong, so ready. he's got a new trainer with ben davison and he looks ready. daniel dubois had a great win out last time but look he's 26 years old. he's a lot younger i think anthony joshua is just ready to make a statement tonight. so i am a big anthony joshua fan as well. >> but as far correct me if i'm wrong. he's lost three times to andy ruiz. and then was it twice

to twice to usyk? if he loses tonight, what what is left of his career. can he revive it. is there a way back. it will be very difficult. >> after he lost to oleksandr usyk, the second time. remember, this is a man that's got hundreds of millions of pounds in his bank account. i'm thinking surely he doesn't want to do this anymore. but credit to do this anymore. but credit to him, he loves the sport. he's come back in a big, big way and he wants to fight tyson fury. he wants to fight oleksandr usyk, who fight in december. he wants to get the winner. so he's back. but i expect him to make a statement and it's all live on sky sports box office tonight. >> so talking of money, how much will aj bag tonight for getting clobbered around the face? >> i'm not sure i can say exactly, but tens of millions of pounds. it's a huge event. this is something that's going to be seen all around the world in every single country. one of the biggest fights of the year. and anthony joshua is one of the biggest stars in the sport. but as i say , we have to credit and as i say, we have to credit and people don't realise what's gone on with our sport. riyadh season . on with our sport. riyadh season. they have brought things together in this sport that we've never seen before. boxing

is now trending at number two. sport after football. yeah. >> do you think there's a risk that mma, and particularly the ufc, was at risk of overshadowing boxing and thanks to the saudis, you know, they've kind of revived it 100%. >> and you see that in the us boxing was one of the most historical sports in the world. no language barrier, easy to understand in every country. ufc came along in the us mixed martial arts. and because it was, they were able to make the fights that the fans want to see all the time. it's gone. this surge of popularity. but as i say at the moment, boxing is having a renaissance and it's an incredible to be involved. >> and what next for you as well, because you've had this meteoric rise in the business and you're only 30. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> no, it's amazing. we've got two fighters on tonight. josh buatsi, who won bronze at the rio olympics, is in an interim world title fight. a huge fight. tyler denney, who was fighting in leisure centres two years ago, became european champion. now he's making life changing money tonight in the chief support against hamza shiraz.

october the 12th. we're in riyadh where we see ben whittaker, chris eubank , junior whittaker, chris eubank, junior frazer clark, who's in his rematch of march out in october, out in riyadh october 12th. adam azim, back at the copper box in london. it doesn't stop. yeah, you're busy . it's crazy at the you're busy. it's crazy at the moment. chris billam—smith back in riyadh. and this is the influence that having on the sport. chris billam—smith another guy that came from in bournemouth selling out stadiums became world champion. now goes to unify the titles in riyadh in november. so it's a very, very busy period. >> okay . and in one word ben, >> okay. and in one word ben, who's winning tonight i believe anthony joshua knockout round five. >> bosh. >> bosh. >> there we go. would you get, clobbered round the head for 1020 mil? ellie. >> oh , that's actually quite tempting. >> tempting? it is tempting money isn't it? yeah, yeah, it wouldn't be very good, though, i think i would. >> you definitely would. >> you definitely would. >> maybe not buy a boxer. they'd probably kill me. >> how much to get in the ring with anthony joshua? >> nothing. he'd kill me.

>> nothing. he'd kill me. >> he wouldn't do it. >> he wouldn't do it. >> i know he's accused of being too much like a bodybuilder and too much like a bodybuilder and too muscular, but, i mean, regardless , compared to me, he'd regardless, compared to me, he'd knock my block off, to say the least . least. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> ben. shalom. thank you. you're the founder and ceo of boxing promotion firm boxer. and. yeah. can't wait for the fight tonight. not sure i'll be paying fight tonight. not sure i'll be paying the £20 to watch it, but definitely looking forward to the highlights, if you did have a boxing match with anyone @gbnews, who would it be? sophie reaper nice segue. here's your news headlines with . sophie. news headlines with. sophie. >> thank you. ellie. any time just after 11:30. and these are your latest news headlines. today is day two of the reform conference in birmingham with speeches expected from senior members of the party. last night, the party's leader, nigel farage, told supporters that he believes reform can win the next general election, given the number of people that agree with their principles. he also explained what drove him to stand as clacton's mp once the general election was called earlier this year.

>> at almost every level we've been betrayed. and then i thought about what was happening on our streets and frankly, i thought of myself. britain is broken . and then i couldn't help broken. and then i couldn't help it. but if britain is broken, then logically britain needs reform. >> staying with politics now and angela rayner has announced plans to make irreversible changes to devolution laws across the entire north of england. speaking ahead of her speech at the labour party conference tomorrow, the deputy pm has committed to handing powers back to areas such as lancashire , greater lancashire, greater lincolnshire, hull and east yorkshire . she also said that yorkshire. she also said that the new government will harness potential in the economy in order to allow innovation and growth to bloom in every part of the country . this year growth to bloom in every part of the country. this year marks growth to bloom in every part of the country . this year marks the the country. this year marks the 80th anniversary of operation market garden and the battle of

arnhem celebrations in the netherlands . this weekend will netherlands. this weekend will commemorate 80 years since 1900. allied troops parachuted into the then occupied country with the then occupied country with the aim of recapturing the bndges the aim of recapturing the bridges of arnhem throughout the morning. the contemporary equivalents of those men are recreating the drop at ginkel heath in ada , jumping from an heath in ada, jumping from an aircraft into the same place our troops would have landed eight decades ago . and tonight, decades ago. and tonight, anthony joshua will challenge daniel dubois for the ibf world heavyweight title at a sold out wembley stadium. the all—british fight will see joshua try to take the title from dubois in an attempt to join the likes of muhammad ali, lennox lewis and evander holyfield by becoming a three time world heavyweight champion . things remained champion. things remained relatively calm at the weigh in yesterday, although both fighters have said they will do whatever it takes to win those latest gb news headlines. for now, i'm sophie reaper more from me in half an hour for the very

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>> hello. welcome back. >> hello. welcome back. >> 1138 ben and ellie with you on saturday morning live. and we're also joined by steph takyi with the latest dose of showbiz news. >> hi hi, hi i do should we start with something very serious? yeah p diddy. yes he hasn't been able to buy himself out of jail . he tried to get out out of jail. he tried to get out of jail earlier this week. he was arrested for a host of cases, including racketeering, sex trafficking, drug

cases, including racketeering, sex trafficifinally ug cases, including racketeering, sex trafficifinally managed to york, they finally managed to pin him down. he tried to set a bail at 37.8 million, which was refused twice this week because they said that they don't trust that he will come out and not threaten the witnesses, because he has a long history of that. people who've brought cases against him, he's tried to either pay them off, but this time they mean business. so he's been placed on suicide watch because, as you can imagine, it's been a big fall from grace for one of the biggest moguls in the music industry, now potentially facing life behind bars. >> just remind us what he's been accused of doing. >> he's . yes there is. oh, gosh. >> he's. yes there is. oh, gosh. well, he's been basically locked up for sex trafficking drug possession and firearms offences. but they also raided his properties both in new york and miami . and bizarrely, they and miami. and bizarrely, they found a thousand bottles of baby oil and lubricant. so it's quite sordid. he used to have these sex parties called freak offs and apparently this is where he involved male prostitutes and

female sex workers to basically please him. and i don't even want to talk about accused. >> i think of even recording some of these parties and using them to blackmail people. it's very , very good. very, very good. >> and he's got away with it for many, many years . so now i feel many, many years. so now i feel like it's officially going to court now. and he's not going to be seeing the light of day. but as you can imagine, for a celebrity like himself, he's lost all his glory, all the luxuries he's enjoyed and we won't be seeing him in public until his trial. and the date has not been set, so he will be behind bars for quite a while. >> okay, well, watch this space. yeah, the story, isn't it ? yeah, the story, isn't it? should we talk about happier things? yes. >> strictly , yes. >> strictly, yes. >> strictly, yes. >> back tonight? officially, yes. officially, this is going to be the first live show. last week we saw the launch show. but this week we're going to see the 15 contestants. we're going to see what they've learned. so far over the past few weeks in rehearsals. so there's going to be some things for people to look out for. chris mccausland. he is going to be the show's first blind contestant, and he's going to be performing the cha cha cha. so that will be quite

interesting to see how he can pull that off. we also see the return of amy dowden, and she's now in readmission from cancer, so she's making a return back to the show. but there's obviously been a criticism, criticism about a few people such as jb gill and also tasha ghouri from love island, who are already trained dancers . trained dancers. >> so that's fair. i'm just putting it out there. >> yeah, i don't think it is. >> yeah, i don't think it is. >> actually, in hindsight, i'm thinking like, you've got people who are novices on the show and these two will already have. they'll be able to pick up the techniques quite quickly. >> i mean, jb gill and tasha gorie are both incredible dancers and we have to do is one look at their social media. you can tell that they're trained, they're pretty much professional themselves. and then you've got you're up against people who are just learning their steps. >> doesn't seem fair. >> doesn't seem fair. >> i think it's reflected in the votes, actually, because i think the public know that. and i think when it comes to voting, i think when it comes to voting, i think jb will go far and i think tasha will go far. but when it actually comes to the final, you always get those wild cards. you get those people who are complete novices to dancing, and they make it to the final because they've shown that

dedication and that they can pick up when it comes to dancing. >> yeah, i want to see people tripping over themselves, getting dropped on this and stuff like that. how's paul merson getting on? >> well, i'd be interesting to see how he is. he's. where is he? he is . oh, i can't see him. he? he is. oh, i can't see him. i can't see him. he's gone now. but yeah , it'll be interesting but yeah, it'll be interesting to see how he does. but one thing for sure, i don't think there will be no strictly curse this season because obviously they've had professionals welfare producers in that's been watching them during rehearsals. so i doubt there's any room for any love affairs to start during this season. >> and that was the best bit as well wasn't it? >> yeah. no. >> yeah. no. >> well you never know. love might prevail. you never know . might prevail. you never know. >> and we're also going to talk about lily allen . about lily allen. >> yeah. she's been causing headunes >> yeah. she's been causing headlines with her podcast over the past few weeks. months now she's come out i know she's like, lily, stop it. but she just came out now. and she says that she had children for the wrong reasons. she's got two daughters. one is 11 and one is 12, and she said that she's only had children because she felt

like it was the only way to take the pressure of fame from her. and she also said that she also felt like she had this need to fill in the gap for unconditional love. so she's put that out there and i'm sorry, like, you've got two daughters who are quite young, the media have now made a big fuss about this, and i just think it's unfair for her to put her daughters out there in the pubuc daughters out there in the public like this. i'm not going to listen to that. and i think any parent you know, even if you think those things, you wouldn't say it outwardly. i think, you know, a lot of mothers do think, oh my gosh, would i have had children? but i think when you're in the limelight, it's quite damaging to your children to do that kind of stuff. >> just some people shouldn't have a podcast. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> i don't think she should . i >> i don't think she should. i think she should. >> but did you catch that story a few weeks ago? lily allen about the dog. about the dog? >> yeah. >> yeah. >> she handed the dog back to the charity shelter. >> yeah, to the charity? yeah. >> yeah, to the charity? yeah. >> the dog had eaten in the past. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> and i just don't think this podcast is doing her any favours. and i think, you know, there's. you can talk about anything you want, but i think to throw your children under the bus, to throw your children under the busifs to throw your children under the bus, it's very bad. >> she's still selling her feet

pictures. >> she is. she's making a lot of money on onlyfans. yeah she is. yeah people like well people on onlyfans. they've got different fetishes. so feet is one of them. maybe we're in the wrong profession, guys. >> maybe. maybe she should be sticking to feet pictures rather than podcast. >> yeah, that's the way forward. >> yeah, that's the way forward. >> definitely. >> definitely. >> how damaging do you think all of these revelations are ? steph? of these revelations are? steph? do you think that people are just kind of laughing and joking them off? >> no, i think people are taking it quite seriously. >> i think especially when you have people out there who can't have people out there who can't have children naturally . and to have children naturally. and to be saying comments like that, it's also you have to think about the welfare of your children here. they go to school, they're around other young children. and that's like could be a for case teasing or bullying or anything. but i won't be surprised. she'll probably get signed up for a second season of her podcast because she's given the bbc what they want. >> well, it's headlines, isn't it? >> it is news. thanks, jeff. good to see you. good to see you, jeff. >> okay. still to come. i'm not as you know , a massive reality as you know, a massive reality tv fan, but i do enjoy whenever i'm fleeting into the living room and my wife is watching it. married at first sight. >> that means you watch it all

the time now. >> and then. yeah, i don't i don't turn it on. i just sit down and watch it when it's on. but we're going to be joined by former married at first sight and former miss great britain, actually april banbury, to talk us about the new upcoming season back in the tick

>> and back to saturday morning live . loads of you getting in live. loads of you getting in touch to our question which was do you believe in love at first sight? does it really exist? and this is from stephanie, who says , this is from stephanie, who says, dear ellie and ben, my husband and i met 43 years ago in a pubuc and i met 43 years ago in a public house in norfolk , and we public house in norfolk, and we have been together ever since. that's despite people saying that it would not last. we moved in together after three weeks and are still together 43 years on. >> it's nice to hear people meeting in pubs and nightclubs these days because it's all onune these days because it's all online now, isn't it?

>> i met my wife in a pub. >> i met my wife in a pub. >> did you? and was it love at first sight? >> i played her my i was 20, i played her my dj mix and i thought, listen to this. >> and she was she was politely nodding along. >> oh no. probably thought i was a bit of a deserves a medal, doesn't she? >> this one's made me laugh. doesn't have a name on it though. hello gb news love at first sight i fall in love every time i walk into a coffee shop at the services they display all of those little cakes. they look pure fancy. well that's true. and james says we have both been widowed for about ten years, and i tried online dating. she had tried several dates and given up. she went back on to close her account and came across a message from you, i assume james, she took a chance. long story short, we are going on 16 years later. here we are. >> lots of lots of our viewers with long term relationships, isn't it? yeah, 20 years, 30 years. >> good stuff. very good. >> good stuff. very good. >> do keep those stories coming in, gbnews.com/yoursay. but why are we talking about love at first sight? you might be asking. that's because married at first sight uk is officially back. the reality tv show that's taken the nation by storm. it's

in its ninth season. would you believe on e4? >> wow, nine seasons. i remember the early days. >> the reality a big fan i am. >> the reality a big fan i am. >> yeah, the reality tv series sees experts pairing together couples who meet for the first time on their wedding day so they don't know who who, who. they are bonkers. they turn up, they get ready, and they turn up at the altar and they meet their husband or wife for the very first time. and then they. the programme basically follows their marriage journey, telling us more about the new series and her own experience on married at first sight is designer and former star of the series april banbury. good morning april. >> good morning. thank you for being with us. thanks for having me. >> okay. new series on the way. doesit >> okay. new series on the way. does it evoke memories of your time on the show? would you do it again? >> it absolutely brings back memories . and i'm probably going memories. and i'm probably going to say no, i wouldn't do it again. because marrying a stranger's are very nerve wracking . like, very, very nerve wracking. like, very, very nerve wracking. like, very, very nerve wracking. and it's all legit, isn't it? >> it's not just made up for the for the, you know, the audience . for the, you know, the audience. you've never met them before. you've never met them before. you turn up to the altar.

>> yeah. it's funny, he actually asked me that question because so many people always ask me that. they're like, oh, surely you must have known something about the person you know , met about the person you know, met them before. >> glance at photo. >> glance at photo. >> no, absolutely nothing. like, you know, nothing. you don't even know their hair colour at this point. so you literally just meet them at the end of the altar and then that's it. >> nerve wracking. i can imagine i didn't know whether i was going to be sick, whether i was going to be sick, whether i was going to be sick, whether i was going to cry, whether i was going to cry, whether i was going to cry, whether i was going to faint. i was like, and for people who haven't watched it before, what do the producers and the experts match? you on? >> so there's a number of things. i mean, it's quite an intense process in the build up. you're really talking about, like your wants, your things that you want and you don't want. and i feel like they kind of want to match you with someone that you do want, but also want to give you a chance to maybe open yourself up to something that you're not used to because obviously you're doing something wrong, which is why you're on the show and you're single, you know? so it's like you have a deal breaker. you know, what would be your deal breaker, which would be an absolute no. >> what was your deal breaker? >> what was your deal breaker? >> mine was someone who didn't have kids. okay. you didn't want anybody with children?

>> no, because. only because i'm not sure that i want children myself. so i thought it would just be easier that way, but, yeah, it's. sometimes it doesn't work out that way. >> okay. and what year were you on? what series i was on? >> oh my goodness. so a couple of years ago now. >> and what's happened to you since then? you mentioned you'd had a bit of an accident since did. >> this is why, i swear to god, i'm doomed to be single forever, because i was. oh, don't say that. i was. i won't put that into the universe. actually, i take that back , i was a bridal take that back, i was a bridal stylist and designer . and with stylist and designer. and with that, i would lift heavy wedding dresses for, like 15, 20kg all day, every day. and my spine took a toll. it took a toll on my spine, and i actually ended up prolapsing, my l5—s1 disc in my spine. i had to learn to walk again. i'm still in recovery a year later. it's like kind of like how long is a piece of string kind of thing? but it really like, how has that affected your dating game? oh my god, massively because i'm a heels girl and i can't wear heels girl and i can't wear heels now. i've just got to wear these ugly flatforms everywhere. i go and trainers are like, but yeah, obviously i hadn't been dating since the show anyway,

but then when i was like, oh, i might be ready. obviously physically i couldn't go anywhere or do anything. >> are you getting blokes to kind of like carry you into bars and stuff? >> yeah. that's it. if you can't give me a piggyback, i'm sorry you can't go on a date. >> yeah, well, i'm glad that you're feeling better. you're certainly looking amazing. thank you . your experience on the you. your experience on the show, reflecting on it now, do you think that has helped or hindered your dating life? because, spoiler alert, you're not still married, are you? >> no, i'm very single. very, very single, i, i feel like it does make it a little bit more difficult not to be like, oh, we're famous or whatever , but we're famous or whatever, but people do recognise you or you are a bit of a known face, so people that have spoken to in the past pretend that they like, haven't seen the show or don't watch it. and then they'll come out with, oh, watch it. and then they'll come outwith, oh, can i just get a selfie, like for my mum? because, like, she knows everything about me and she really likes you. she's really excited that i'm on this date with you. kind of thing. and then it's like, oh, you're not getting to know me. for me, you're just getting to know me because your mum really liked watching me on the show, like so. it's kind of difficult in that respect. >> but so the new series has started on e4 this monday, but

i'm just going to say as well, do you watch the aussie version ? do you watch the aussie version? >> i used to until i was on masca and now i can't watch it because it's just too many. yeah, triggers too much for you. you just know what goes on and it's just like, yeah , yeah, yeah. >> okay. >> okay. >> that must have been such a terrifying experience for you , terrifying experience for you, going from marrying a stranger, but then also living with them because there's that whole element, isn't there? >> it's so intense. it's not only like, obviously living with a stranger, but it's like you're in an apartment with a bunch of other couples that you don't know, like you really don't know anyone. and it can be quite lonely at times. like, well, luckily the whole team behind the scenes were were brilliant. >> thank you forjoining us and >> thank you for joining us and good luck in your hunt. >> thank you. mr right man. >> thank you. mr right man. >> thank you april. >> thank you april. >> lovely to meet you. and thank you for joining >> lovely to meet you. and thank you forjoining us on saturday you for joining us on saturday morning live today . morning live today. >> yep. see you again next week. dawn neesom is next. have a lovely weekend. very good. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar, sponsors of weather on .

solar, sponsors of weather on. gb news. >> hello there! it is a bit of a mixed fortunes in terms of our weather this weekend. depending on exactly where you are located in the uk. all due to two pressure systems that are affecting different areas. we've got high pressure in the north close to iceland, affecting areas of scotland, but it's low pressure in the south that is starting to feed in some occluded frontal systems, and we are going to see some showers developing over the course of the day. particular focus for parts of wales central and southwestern areas of england. there is a thunderstorm warning in force because some of those showers could be quite thundery and heavy, with the risk of some hail and lightning strikes in there as well. if you manage to avoid those showers, though, there will be some quite decent sunny spells across southern areas as well, climbing to highs of 25 c. feeling pleasantly warm in here. further towards the north. there is a bit of an east west split. parts of eastern coastal areas of scotland and down into northeast england as well, are going to be pretty cloudy throughout much of today, and that is going to make it feel quite cool in places. temperatures not seeing much higher than 11 or 12 c here, but parts of northwest scotland seeing a lot of sunshine climbing towards 20 c here, and some quite decent sunny spells

for northern ireland into the afternoon as well. there are those showers then across parts of wales as we head into the evening, but we do get a second pulse of thundery rain arriving as we head into the overnight period, spreading across the channel islands. and then it will be moving into southern areas of england later on during the second half of the night. again, some heavy pulses of rain are possible. it will cause some travel disruption and so the thunderstorm warning changes into a bit more of a rain warning as we head into sunday. a mild night for many of us, temperatures holding up around 14 to 16 c, but chillier underneath those rural skies of northwest scotland . for much of northwest scotland. for much of scotland and northern ireland, though, it is a relatively similar day on sunday. again, the best of the sunshine will be further towards the west with that cloud filtering in across the east. but for wales and the central southern areas of england, again, we do have those heavy pulses of rain, some thunderstorms developing in times and it is going to feel quite humid in amongst all of that temperatures, again climbing to just around 2020 one degrees celsius. things turn cooler though as we head into the new working week, but still remaining relatively unsettled by. >> looks like things are heating

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