>> hello! good afternoon. it is 3:00. welcome to gb news. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua and for the next few hours me and my panel will be taking on some of the big topics hitting the headlines. right now. this show is all about opinion. headlines. right now. this show is all about opinion . it's mine, is all about opinion. it's mine, it's theirs. and of course it's yours. we'll be debating, discussing and at times we will disagree. but no one will be cancelled. so joining me for the next few hours, political commentator lee harris and also trade unionist andy twelves. there's a dozen of them coming up. should mps accept gifts .7 up. should mps accept gifts? we'll discuss that in my great british debate. in my after for sir keir starmer tries to

explain why he has to sit in a box to watch his beloved arsenal. >> i've had season tickets at arsenal for a long time now, up in the stands where i've gone with my boy and my friends for year after year after year. now i'm prime minister, the security advice is that i can't go into the stands , or if i did, you'd the stands, or if i did, you'd have to put so much sort of security in that would cost the taxpayer a fortune . as a result, taxpayer a fortune. as a result, i've been offered tickets elsewhere in the ground where it's more secure and we don't have to use taxpayer money on additional security . and that is additional security. and that is why i've taken the decision that ihave. >> oh, he feels sorry for the taxpayer. really then, in difficult conversations. are you a fan of married at first sight? i'll be joined by a wedding celebrant from the series and a matchmaker. if you're looking for love, you won't want to miss that. for love, you won't want to miss that . and my panel will also go that. and my panel will also go head to head in my quickfire quiz. but before we get stuck into that, let's get your latest

news with tatiana sanchez . news with tatiana sanchez. >> nana. thank you. the top stories today is day two of the reform conference in birmingham with party leader nigel farage giving his farewell address earlier this afternoon. last night, mr farage told supporters he believes reform can win the next general election , given the next general election, given the number of people that agree with their principles . he also their principles. he also explained what drove him to stand as clacton's mp once the general election was called. earlier this year. >> at almost every level we've been betrayed. and then i thought about what was happening on our streets and frankly , i on our streets and frankly, i thought of myself. britain is broken . and then i couldn't help broken. and then i couldn't help it. but if britain is broken, then logically britain needs

reform. >> meanwhile, mr farage has signed over ownership of the party, meaning he could feasibly be removed by a vote of no confidence going forward. unlike most political parties , reform most political parties, reform uk was originally formed as a limited company , with mr farage limited company, with mr farage holding most of the shares, but as of now the reform leader has relinquished the ownership and members will now be able to vote on party policies. thousands of people have gathered for a march for palestine making its way through the streets of liverpool today, organised by the palestine solidarity campaign. the group say their demands include ending the genocide, stopping the arming of israel and saying no to war in the middle east. they also say they will be directing these aims towards the government at the annual labour party conference, which begins in liverpool tomorrow . this which begins in liverpool tomorrow. this year marks which begins in liverpool tomorrow . this year marks the tomorrow. this year marks the 80th anniversary of the operation market garden and the battle of arnhem. celebrations in the netherlands. this weekend will commemorate 80 years since

1900. allied troops parachuted into the then occupied country with the aim of recapturing the bndges with the aim of recapturing the bridges of arnhem. throughout the day today, the contemporary equivalents of those men are recreating the drop at ginkel, heath and eitherjumping from an aircraft in the same place our troops would have landed eight decades ago . earlier, brigadier decades ago. earlier, brigadier mark berry told gb news how it feels to be there on the ground today. >> i think the struggle that soldiers felt here on the ground, the very, very difficult conditions that they faced, epitomise what any one of us feel we could be called to face epitomise what any one of us feel we could in the modern era. and therefore epitomise what any one of us feethee could epitomise what any one of us feethe modern era. and therefore we come here to commemorate the in the modern era. and therefore we come here to commemorate the bravery of those who went before bravery of those who went before us, to and challenge ourselves us, to to think about their bravery . bravery of those who went before us think bravery of those who went before usthink about their bravery . to think about their bravery. and will we be brave enough when to think about their bravery. and will we be brave enough when our time comes ? our time comes ? our time comes? >> the met office has issued a our time comes? >> the met office has issued a further weather warning with further weather warning with heavy rain and thunderstorms heavy rain and thunderstorms

forecast for the rest of the forecast for the rest of the weekend. the alert will remain weekend. the alert will remain in place throughout today, in place throughout today, covering wales, the midlands, covering wales, the midlands, the southwest and parts of the the southwest and parts of the south east. the force forecaster south east. the force forecaster has warned that people should has warned that people should expect damage to buildings as a expect damage to buildings as a result of lightning strikes, result of lightning strikes, disruption to public transport disruption to public transport and flooding all within the and flooding all within the affected areas . and tonight, affected areas . and tonight, affected areas. and tonight, anthony joshua will challenge affected areas. and tonight, anthony joshua will challenge daniel dubois for the ibf world daniel dubois for the ibf world heavyweight title at a sold out heavyweight title at a sold out wembley stadium . the all—british wembley stadium . the all—british wembley stadium. the all—british fight will see joshua try to wembley stadium. the all—british fight will see joshua try to take the title from dubois in an take the title attempt to join the likes of muhammad ali, lennox lewis and evander holyfield by becoming a three time world heavyweight champion. things remained relatively calm at the weigh in yesterday, although both fighters have said they will do whatever it takes to win. and those are the latest gb news headunes those are the latest gb news headlines for now i'm tatiana sanchez. more from me in half an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign

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fight will see joshua try to take the.title fight will see joshua try to take the. right. so on the way all that. right. so on the way in an airborne spectacular 700 paratroopers from eight nato nafions paratroopers from eight nato nations have been commemorating the 80th anniversary of the battle of alma . ahem, ahem. now, battle of alma. ahem, ahem. now, hundreds of allied soldiers parachuted into nazi occupied netherlands as part of a daring world war ii offensive in just under 2000, allied troops lost their lives. almost 7000 became prisoners. let's cross the ede to in the netherlands and speak to in the netherlands and speak to our national reporter, charlie peters. so, charlie, talk to me about the commemorations. >> yes. so this is called exercise falcon leap, and it's taking place in quite glorious conditions. so sunny here today , conditions. so sunny here today, mirroring the conditions, in fact, of the 17th of september 1944, when the first airborne troops arrived here at ginkel

heath, about eight miles away from their target of arnhem. the first rule of military parachuting is to land on your target. but the general in charge of this operation took the controversial decision to drop the troops in this area. here, an open plain about eight miles away from arnhem. on that bridge. and in doing that and making that decision, they landed without any resistance. originally they met men on bicycles and reservists. they met in fact, dutch liberation joy met in fact, dutch liberation joy people were so happy to see the british forces arrive. but very soon, by the end of that evening, the germans were wise to what had happened, and there was a very rapid reaction from the counter—attacking waffen ss divisions that were there. and then the men who jumped jumped into hell's cauldron. well, today some 700 forces arrived into ginkel heath via the air from eight different nato countries. we've seen pathfinders from 16 air assault brigade's pathfinder platoon, the first in tip of the spear.

the elite of our global reaction force. we've also seen a military freefall operation. now, when people take on airborne operations and they exit, an aircraft is usually a static line. that means when they jump out of the plane, the parachute is automatically pulled via a cable that connects their parachute to the aircraft's door. but for military freefall, those parachutists, the soldiers leap from the aircraft at a higher altitude, control their descent, and let their commanders know when they're going to pull the cord to safely glide down to the ground. well, the military freefall we saw earlier today was with 12 different parachutists, highly trained , parachutists, highly trained, showing off the flags of all those involved in commemorating today. on that day, 80 years ago, across that week long campaign, we had representatives from the united kingdom, the united states and the polish airborne brigade fighting tooth and nail room to room in one of the most gritty and determined

fighting campaigns that the british military has ever endured. but it was a wider spread of people here, welcoming them and commemorating their service. 80 years on, the dutch king was here and so were several commanders who leapt from those aircraft. the head of the army in the united kingdom and the chief of the general staff and the commander field army, and the commander of 16 air assault brigade, all leading from the front , jumping with the from the front, jumping with the 90 strong british contingent . 90 strong british contingent. now there was also emotional address in the area behind me where the bands were playing this afternoon . one of the this afternoon. one of the soldiers leading that british team jumping into kinkell hill today, he said that the last thing he wanted to do as a paratrooper was to salute those who fought 80 years ago. >> charlie peters, thank you very much. well, in the last houn very much. well, in the last hour, nigel farage has closed reform, the uk's annual conference, the party, which is still buoyant after winning five mps at july's general election, says that it aims to win the election in 2029 and fix broken

britain. this comes ahead of beginning of the labour conference, which is being overshadowed by the party's freebies scandal. sir keir starmer has announced that he and his ministerial colleagues will no longer accept donations for clothes , but questions will for clothes, but questions will still be asked as to whether he should accept gifts in the first place. at a time when pensioners are seeing cuts to their winter fuel payments and taxes are set to rise in the upcoming budget. well, joining me live from birmingham is gb news tom harwood. so tom, talk to me about the atmosphere at the conference. i actually popped in yesterday. i cannot believe that the positive energy, the vibe was incredible. how has it been today ? today? >> yeah, i have to say, i was at the reform conference last year and it was it felt like a completely different to party the party here today. i mean, this is at least ten times bigger. there's, you know , more bigger. there's, you know, more than just sort of four people in a shabby room. this is a proper party conference. nigel farage is saying this is the year that

the reform party comes of age. it's got a new constitution. they're setting up branches across the country. but the real question is, can the results live up to the rhetoric? and there'll be a big test of that in the local elections in may. so who better to speak to than a reform local councillor? someone described as a rising star in the reform party. i'm delighted to be joined here by maria bootle. maria, you spoke on stage earlier today. what have you, what has your sort of takeaway been from this party conference? >> i think it's one of hope actually. the amount of people i've spoken to yesterday and today that have got their own ideas of how they can improve their communities and what they want to see and actually how they've been inspired to go out into their areas and be, you know, not be ashamed to say , i know, not be ashamed to say, i stand with reform because i care about our communities, my family, and actually the entire country needs people to step up

and make a difference in their area. and i think the people here that i've met are ready to do that and excited to get stuck in. >> now, you were originally elected as a conservative. when did you make the switch and why? >> so, well, it was over christmas. i had lots of discussions with my family members locally. the conservatives are a nice bunch. they do quite a good job and i have lots of friends. but nationally my dad asked me, do you want to vote for him in the general election? i was like , general election? i was like, no, i don't want to vote. labour so we're going to vote for. and then the exploration of what other parties existed and almost finding a national political home became something i did in my spare time. and then i went along to doncaster's conference, and i realised that i was among like minded people who are very passionate. and they launched the draft contract. and when i read it, i was like, yeah, i want to stand for this . that's want to stand for this. that's what i want to vote for. and so

i put my name in the hat and said, i'll come across now it is, of course, a big challenge for any party. >> that is a start up party. five seats in parliament, a beachhead, as nigel farage keeps saying. but of course it's a world away from winning the crucial magic 326 majority number. i suppose this is where local politics comes into this , local politics comes into this, because there's been a lot of talk about the so—called lib dem strategy here at this conference. what's that about? >> well, so locally in bridlington in the world, the lib dems are very aggressive. i would say in their campaigning on the ground, they will leaflet houses over and over again to the point where those people are complaining the amount of literature they're getting and they really are targeted , they they really are targeted, they are very, enthusiastic bunch that get out in the community, whether they do good or not, is a different debate, but actually they are very active and i think that's something reform needs to replicate. and really make really smart decisions about what we're targeting, why we're

targeting it, and actually just be stand up members of community that people can trust to represent them at all levels. >> it's a huge challenge. maria thank you so much for talking us through it. and of course, the reform party will, as i say , be reform party will, as i say, be facing that big challenge of the local elections along with lots of other parties. of course, in may we're able to see if all of this rhetoric turns into results . this rhetoric turns into results. >> all right, tom, thank you very much. really good to talk to you. that is tom harwood. he's there at the reform uk conference in birmingham for more reaction. i'm now joined by the former labour minister ivor caplin. ivor, welcome to the programme. thank you very much for joining us this afternoon. so it seems that reform reform are going great. guns by the looks of things. i know they are around there. it's an echo chamber obviously, because you're going there where people support you . but i actually went support you. but i actually went there because i'm trying to get to all the party conferences and the energy and the amount of young people who are involved and really captivated by reform was astounding .

was astounding. >> i mean, we've all seen these things over the years, haven't we? if we're realistic , you we? if we're realistic, you know, it's not one thing because of the party. it's just a normal thing that seems to happen when the party is new, wherever that is. we saw it with the lib dems. i don't know when that was. about 15 years ago. you know, these things tend to happen and it's only the two big parties where it doesn't appear to be like it is for the smaller parties . parties. >> we should wait and see how reform reforms and progresses. but let's let's swing ourselves now to the labour party. their conference will start in earnest tomorrow. and a lot of people it was supposed to be a shining moment where they could say what a massive majority we achieved. but unfortunately for them, it's been overshadowed by freebies . been overshadowed by freebies. where do you stand with all of that ? that? >> i know you're all very excited about this . you know, excited about this. you know, wherever you go in gb news, you're very excited about these so—called freebies . look, this

so—called freebies. look, this this happens in parliament. this was given to , to keir in was given to, to keir in particular. and rachel, i understand, and angela and from a donor, not from the not not from the government. not from money. that is the public's money. that is the public's money which happened previously. this was done by a donor. and that's a perfectly legitimate thing to do . it's gone through thing to do. it's gone through the processes and everyone is moving on and they're not moving on quickly . let's just let's on quickly. let's just let's just quickly deal with this issue about the football stadium, arsenal, because this is actually quite important. it's a matter of, is actually quite important. it's a matter of , that football it's a matter of, that football stadiums, when they look at the issues relating to security, they have to take a set of decisions that are the most important to go forward. in this instance . that's why they asked instance. that's why they asked kier to move from his normal seats, which is in the normal

area of the stadium, into a more private area where he has the security level that he needs. now. i don't think anyone is really , you know, saying that's really, you know, saying that's wrong. of course, the prime minister should be able able to have that, that, that kind of capability, >> yeah. but prince william, who is arguably way more important than keir starmer and has had far more longevity, and also the previous prime minister, rishi sunak, they all stood in the stands. so i'm not i'm a little bit confused as to why. no, no, hold on, hold on. no no no i did listen to you either. and i don't think as well that we can brush past the fact that a donor who sort of is now a peer, has given i mean, come on, would you allow another man to give your wife clothes ? really? he's on wife clothes? really? he's on £167,000. he's got a property portfolio worth millions, it's not good enough, is it? >> hold on. he's been a peer ,

>> hold on. he's been a peer, for years . yeah. no, he's not. for years. yeah. no, he's not. he's not someone new to the labour party . just appearing labour party. just appearing like we heard previously from people who had, you know, given money to the conservative party or spent money on, you know, helicopters, you know, 40 grand a year or something like that. you know , these things happen in you know, these things happen in part of that whole process of government. the most important thing is that where you get some of these issues, you have to make sure that they are dealt with by the authorities of the house, and they're all registered . and keir has done registered. and keir has done that now. it's a good step forward and now he can get on with the conference. >> no, i don't think you say that. nobody's going to brush this under the carpet. nobody's brushing this under the carpet £150,000. listen, he has spent he has been gifted more than any other mp since 2019. and that includes boris johnson, who he lambasted for doing the very same thing. remember

wallpapergate, i think you'll find that boris johnson's, reporting of these matters to the authorities was not very good compared to keir starmer. all right . well, i think we're all right. well, i think we're dancing on the head of a pin here, either, captain. thank you very much. he's a former labour minister. welcome aboard. if you've just tuned in 20 minutes after 3:00. i've just got got started . i'm after 3:00. i've just got got started. i'm nana after 3:00. i've just got got started . i'm nana akua. after 3:00. i've just got got started. i'm nana akua. this is gb news. we are live on tv, onune gb news. we are live on tv, online and on digital radio. coming up behind the palace walls. we'll be discussing reports that meghan and harry are no longer being taken seriously in hollywood, casting doubts over whether they have a future there. but first, we'll be continuing our discussion in the great british debate this houn the great british debate this hour. i'm going to be asking, as labour's freebie scandal is unravelling, should these mps even be allowed accept gifts at all?

good afternoon. if you just tuned in. welcome you're at the beginning of the show. that's good.23 beginning of the show. that's good. 23 minutes after 3:00. i'm nana akua this is gb news. we are the people's channel. and it's are the people's channel. and wsfime are the people's channel. and it's time now for the great british debate this hour. and i'm asking, should politicians be allowed to accept gifts? sir keir starmer has announced that he and his ministerial colleagues will no longer accept donations for clothes. just clothes, by the way , despite clothes, by the way, despite initially seeking to bat away criticism of the donations. and this comes following a backlash at the news that the prime minister had accepted over £18,000 from lord waheed ali for new clothes and spectacles . and new clothes and spectacles. and that was just a small fraction of the £107,000 worth of freebies that sir keir starmer accepted over the past five years. by far the most of any parliamentarian. it has now also emerged that the chancellor, rachel reeves, accepted £7,500 for new clothes, a donation that was registered and supported for

her office. this has also to led many a question as to whether it's appropriate for politicians to accept large donations at a time when pensioners are seeing cuts to their winter fuel allowance and taxes are set to rise in the upcoming budget. so for the great british debate this out, i'm asking should politicians be allowed to accept gifts? well, joining me now is political commentator lee harris , political commentator lee harris, also a trade unionist andy twelves. andy twelves, there's a dozen of you, mate. let's let's talk about this . should talk about this. should politicians be allowed to accept any gifts? >> i think they should, but it is contingent on them declaring it on their register of interest. their register of financial interests. >> i think that is the key bit, because realistically, if you do ban it, then there won't be, you know, there won't be any requirement for them to donate the ones that they will get anyway. so it will just kind of boost the corruption and kind of create a culture of, oh, well, i'll take that as a bit of double bubble, but i won't declare it to anyone else. so i think having them allowed to accept gifts, but being firm on the declaration of interests and

the declaration of interests and the register of interests is the key to keeping it. you know, keeping it corruption free or as much as you can. >> i'm not buying that really does that not open them to corruption? the fact that they can accept gifts so just by default, by me accepting a gift that somebody has given me, they've softened me up a little bit, haven't they? well i mean, well they have i can't speak to your character. if you bought me a bunch of flowers. a&e 12, 12 dozen red roses or a dozen red roses, 12 dozen would be quite a lot. >> 12 dozen would be a lot. >> 12 dozen would be a lot. >> but 12 red roses. i might be a lot nicer to you. oh you may well think about it, i will. lee harris, lee harris, i agree with you. >> yeah, i've given this some thought, and i'm not sure that they should be completely banned. >> although i am leaning towards that for the reasons you've just given you know, if you can buy gifts for an mp , certainly at gifts for an mp, certainly at that level of government. exactly right . that i mean, who, exactly right. that i mean, who, who needs gifts when you're on that salary as well for kids, it's not as if he doesn't earn a big wedge anyway. >> and he's independently wealthy as well. >> so no, i think even though i have been a little bit on the

fence about this, i think that the best thing to do, if it was down to me, everything should be down to me, everything should be down to me, everything should be down to me. >> nana but if it's down to me, i would probably just say right, no gifts for no one at all throughout the whole of parliament and then job done. >> absolutely. and i and i find it absolutely astonishing that these mps . keir starmer in these mps. keir starmer in particular, are telling us that he's saving the taxpayer money by not sitting in the stands because he's now in a box, which is obviously a vip seat, which would cost ordinarily £8,000. i mean, that that can't be acceptable, can it? >> i mean, let's be honest, if we think about it the other way, if he hadn't accepted the box and he was sat in the stands and he had to hire ten police officers to sit round him for the better part of 90 minutes, you would be criticising him for going. that's a waste of taxpayers money. why are the police there? >> you would realistically know . >> you would realistically know. don't tell me what i'd be saying. >> would the commentariat would. >> would the commentariat would. >> you are not me. >> he's stuck between a rock and a hard place. the commentariat would have a go either way. >> let me tell you what i would say. okay i would say that's fine. you're allowed to have some police protecting you as

you sit in the stands. they probably won't cost £8,000. actually, the lot of them are there for the duration of the match, and a lot of them are already there anyway . and where already there anyway. and where he does things that's costed him for the taxpayer. the taxpayer is paying for that anyway. the fact that he thinks, listen, if he's that scared, he should then watch it on tv. like most of us, that's more like the normal person. >> i think you know this story has blown completely out of proportion. >> you know, he is the prime minister. >> if it was the chief executive of a company, they wouldn't be sat in the stands. they'd be in the directors box, which they paid for. >> this is a senior leader, which they paid for. >> well, you know, the box is being paid for. you know, it's no one's ripping off arsenal football club. do you know what i mean? >> the box is being paid for at the end of the day, the box is a gift, okay? >> the box is a gift. and if you want to ban gifts and you ban second jobs for mps as well. absolutely i would. yes. so gb news would lose a few presenters. well, that's my thoughts though. it's not it's not up to me saying who to get rid of. why aren't you calling for jobs to be banned? forjobs to be banned? >> second jobs to be banned as well as you know, gifts i have, ihave well as you know, gifts i have, i have already. >> i haven't called for it, but we've debated it and i've said if it was down to me, mps wouldn't have second jobs. really? yeah, i've said that

repeatedly. i've no no issue with that because i don't i don't believe you can target all your energy into running your constituency. and i also don't believe that you should be accepting gifts, especially being paid more than the average person in this country, which is like, how much is it, 87 or 93,000? £91,000 for an mp and for those in the cabinet and the prime minister? an extra how many thousand? so the prime minister is on 167,000. sue gray is on more and the freebies as well . it's absolutely absurd. well. it's absolutely absurd. >> what gets me was the way that he said just now that he that if i had security says that i had to sit in the stands. >> i think keir starmer has achieved something quite incredible. >> he's managed to make multi—millionaire rishi sunak look like a man of the people, with all of those photographs of him in the in the stands , him in the in the stands, admittedly there is a it's a closed off area of the stands, but he's in the stands. >> i just don't buy it and do you know what? >> i don't think the public would have as much of an issue with any of this if the labour party. keir starmer, jess phillips, all, all of the on

their social justice warrior high horse having a go at the conservatives for their gifts and donors. >> i don't think it's the hypocrisy people can't stand and it's eye—watering, eye—watering hypocrisy. >> andy, i think, you know, the fact is they've declared these gifts. >> they've followed the rules like, you know, they have followed the rules. at the end of the day, i think a lot of the criticism over the last few years has been where the tories haven't followed the rules necessarily, or you know, haven't quite played by the rules he didn't follow. >> when we look at the kind of michelle michelle mone kind of ppe scandal he didn't follow, that was because they didn't follow. >> he didn't follow. >> he didn't follow. >> they didn't follow the rules. >> they didn't follow the rules. >> well he did. he declared the gift eventually. what do you mean not initially? he did. he did. he declared them late. he declared it though late. >> late the rules. there's even a clip of him saying how the rules are 28 days, and he talks about it and everything. he declared one of those things late. >> so he declared out of how many donations that he got. oh, okay. >> so now now, listen, i mean, you can almost see the mental gymnastics of people trying to defend, you know , while he was defend, you know, while he was in opposition. >> at the end of the day, there are bigger stories to talk about, like winter fuel, like

winter fuel. sure. that's a legitimate debate to have. >> absolutely. >> absolutely. >> exactly. and that's the kind of stories that the commentariat should be speaking about. >> so what do you think the opfics >> so what do you think the optics are for that? then for the pensioners watching that these people taking gifts , i these people taking gifts, i think, you know, lots of politicians take gifts constantly. >> you know , kemi badenoch one >> you know, kemi badenoch one of the people that are running to lead the conservative party. one of her pledges last time she ran was to abolish the winter fuel payment. so i think, you know, that would be something that i would send to the optics, to the pension as well. >> but they didn't do it. she's not. no. she lost. well, they didn't do it anyway because they'd look into that. and the labour party themselves looked into that. and their own research said that up to 4000 pensioners would die. but it seems that they're expendable, by the way. right. well, listen, stay with us. this is dup news. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. coming up, we'll be discussing reports that meghan and harry are no longer taken seriously in hollywood, casting doubt on their future there. but first, let's get your latest news headlines with tatiana sanchez . tatiana sanchez. >> anna. thank you. the top

stories this hour. today is day two of the reform conference in birmingham with party leader nigel farage giving his farewell address earlier this afternoon. last night, mr farage told supporters he believes reform can win the next general election, given the number of people that agree with their principles. he also explained what drove him to stand as clacton's mp once the general election was called earlier this yeah >> at almost every level we've been betrayed. and then i thought about what was happening on our streets and frankly, i thought to myself, britain is broken . and then i couldn't help broken. and then i couldn't help it. but if britain is broken, then logically britain needs reform. >> this year marks the 80th anniversary of operation market garden and the battle of arnhem. celebrations in the netherlands this weekend will commemorate 80

years since 1900. allied troops parachuted into the then occupied country with the aim of recapturing the bridges of arnhem. throughout the day to day , the contemporary day, the contemporary equivalents of those men are recreating the drop at ginkel heath in ada, jumping from an aircraft into the same place our troops would have landed eight decades ago . and tonight, decades ago. and tonight, anthony joshua will challenge daniel dubois for the ibf world heavyweight title at a sold out wembley stadium. the all—british fight will see joshua try to take the title from dubois in an attempt to join the likes of muhammad ali, lennox lewis and evander holyfield by becoming a three time world heavyweight champion. things remained relatively calm at the weigh in yesterday, although both fighters have said they will do whatever it takes to win. and those are the latest gb news headunes those are the latest gb news headlines for now. i'm tatiana sanchez, more from me in half an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone , sign

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prime, which, according to one royal commentator, paints the duke of york as the most obnoxious individual you could ever have the misfortune to meet. well, let's discuss some of these stories with royal broadcaster helena chard . well broadcaster helena chard. well they've not mince their words about him, have they? well, let's start with harry and meghan because , unfortunately meghan because, unfortunately for them, it doesn't. it's not looking good. is it? >> it's not looking good. >> it's not looking good. >> nana. >> nana. >> i mean, honestly, we're heanng >> i mean, honestly, we're hearing so many different things, from america. >> but you know, things about meghan markle ready to , you meghan markle ready to, you know, take her gloves off and write something and come out with a new memoir. >> and it's hardly surprising. >> and it's hardly surprising. >> i mean, it's now that the us are just not taking them seriously. >> and as seeing them for what they are. and anyone that is going to trash their family and trash the royal family, there's going to be a problem. >> and i think now this is there's this sort of ripple

effect. and obviously people are coming out of the woodwork and they're talking about, how how they're talking about, how how they are . they are. >> and i think, you know, when you've got things written in the hollywood reporter, you do take it seriously , it's seen as the it seriously, it's seen as the industry bible, as we're told. and so there's a lot of criticism that's written in good, good places. so of course, this then is the re—enactment of what's happened in the british tabloids. >> and there's lots of different things that have been said about them. >> so of course, there is so much distrust and dislike towards the couple, and, and it's genuine. you know, it really, really is. i mean, if you think about all these thoughts of, you know, duchess, difficult, let's go back to bill simmons and grifters , simmons and grifters, >> and now seeing all of this in, i don't know , is it a in, i don't know, is it a dictator in heels or what? whatever it is and not talking so kindly about prince harry

ehheh >>i ehheh >> i mean, what what is there and what is left, they are working for themselves. they're not working for the royal family, you know, they're hanging on to their royal titles, and people are beginning to see them for what they are. and i think, you know , people and i think, you know, people have wondered slightly, but then seeing it in good, you know, magazines and good, you know, the hollywood reporter, you have to take it seriously. and i think as well, you know , the think as well, you know, the backlash is coming out and saying, no, no, no, this isn't the case. as we've heard, meghan markle has been, you know, has got staff to say certain things. you start thinking, hang on, i don't know. we can't take you serious. it's best just to step back in situations like that. that's not good. it's not a good look. >> i think it's funny. a dictator in heels, they might call me that. i'm not really. that's funny, isn't it? that is actually quite a funny comment that someone would make. you can sort of see it now, can't you?

poor harry, if it's true and if rumours are to be believed and you know, there's a lot of nonsense swirling out there, but they do seem to be an absurd number of people now coming out and saying the same thing. and they are on communications adviser. i think it's number 11 now. so there's got to be something in some of it. and they're not denying much of it ehheh they're not denying much of it either. let's let's move on to prince andrew. and his a very royal scandal that is coming out on amazon prime. it's already out actually i know people who've already seen it . have you who've already seen it. have you seen it and what was your view if you have i have seen i haven't seen it all. >> i have seen bits and pieces and i have to say, you know, michael sheen is an incredibly good actor, although he's not pro—monarchy, i do know that. so that's slightly disappointing. but, plays prince andrew incredibly well . so obviously, incredibly well. so obviously, as you say, it's out on amazon. i think it's a three part series. and it it's good. it's captured people's imagination. it's obviously not all true, but

it's obviously not all true, but i think unfortunately, prince andrew does come across as obnoxious, i think who is it that said it's, you know , the that said it's, you know, the most obnoxious individual you'd ever have. the misfortune to ever have. the misfortune to ever meet or something like that. yes, it was one royal commentator. yes, that's right. and i think actually the royal family are pretty worried about prince andrew, and i, you know, i think he is arrogant. we know that he is arrogant. we hear about him. the whole thing is not a good look, although we know that prince andrew has , know that prince andrew has, has, you know, claims to be innocent in all of this, i just feel. i feel sorry for his daughters. i do feel sorry for his daughters, it may be an interesting watch, etc, but i think we can't help thinking about royal lodge. and it's this whole not good. it's not a good look for the royal family. you

know, it is time for him to move out of royal lodge and for him to look at his daughters and look at things going forward, where obviously, prince william will will need more help in due course , i you know, what can course, i you know, what can i say? michael sheen is great, he we can think of prince andrew. i've heard so much, but it's all alleged talk. of him. but we have heard he is depressed about things i've equally heard that he was almost having, you know , he was almost having, you know, inviting people round to watch the screening , i just think as the screening, i just think as well, it's a completely different stance, isn't it ? i different stance, isn't it? i think it's taken from emily's point of view. it's her viewpoint , but also there's viewpoint, but also there's quite a bit that's from the heart of buckingham palace and royal lodge. i look forward to watching it all, i just hope that things can move on from here, and i just we don't want

to be concentrating on prince andrew at the moment. we want to be concentrating on how great our royal family is. and how much, positive things are going on rather than this, which is obviously a bit of a slant. we don't want to think about the we don't want to think about the we don't we don't we don't really want to hear too much about him. >> but on this particular one, i guess it's come out on netflix. so if you're a royalist and you want to watch it, it might be worth a watch. it's on amazon prime helena chard. thank you very much. always a pleasure. lovely to talk to you . thank lovely to talk to you. thank you. right. so 44 minutes after 3:00, if you just tuned in. welcome. next. my panel will rejoin me in the studio, will discuss rachel reeves and the decision to introduce a female only rule for the at number 11. is this sexist? more coming up after

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coming. gbnews.com forward slash your say i'm going to read some of those very shortly. but now it's of those very shortly. but now wsfime of those very shortly. but now it's time for the great british debate this hour. i'm asking is a female only rule for the decor at number 11. sexist chancellor rachel reeves has raised eyebrows by introducing a female only rule for the paintings in number 11 downing street. speaking at a reception for female business leaders, the chancellor announced that every painting in the state room in number 11 will be replaced by work of arts by women. however, she has been accused of pathetic a pathetic gesture. politics designed to distract the public from winter fuel payment cuts. nice try, rachel, but we'll talk about it anyway. i don't think this is going to go in a favour ehheh this is going to go in a favour either. so for the great british debate, this out, i'm asking, is a female only rule for decor number 11 sexist. let's see what my panel make of that . joining my panel make of that. joining me now, political commentator lee harris also trade unionist andy twelves. right i think there's only 11 of him now after

there's only 11 of him now after the last one i destroyed lee harris i think it is a bit of distraction. >> it's also, i like i think the word cultural vandalism. it's not her office. she's effectively working in a museum . effectively working in a museum. you know, there is an element to it that i think that you've got to make it a little bit your own, but literally taking works of art off of the wall of a building that is hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of years old, i just don't think they should be allowed to do it. fair enough. if they've got like a personal flat, you know, like the number 10 flat, that's different. >> if you've got to live there, thatis >> if you've got to live there, that is different. >> but you know, it is effectively a museum. the houses of parliament, it's a stunning building. it's ancient. >> and for someone to be able to just go in there and just ripple these massive works of art off these massive works of art off the wall, i think is cultural vandalism. >> i also think it's a distraction. >> yes , it is a distraction from >> yes, it is a distraction from perhaps the 7500 pounds worth of clothes that she accepted from lord ali. >> do you think maybe i can't speak to the mindset of the treasury comms team? >> i'm not on the treasury comms team. but you know, this this story is a bit of a non—story.

you know, in 2021, you know, bofis you know, in 2021, you know, boris johnson spent 100 grand of taxpayers money on two paintings to bring into number 10. you know , that is quite normal to know, that is quite normal to have a cycle of paintings and artwork through number 10 and number 11. and, you know, in the house of commons, this is quite a normal thing to do for to her just give it a bit of a directive. >> that's not a bit though, is it? it's not really every single picture. >> no . >> no. >> no. >> and she's saying it's specifically women as well, which some might see as a bit sexist. >> no, it's to kind of push the point that she's the first female chancellor in the, you know, hundreds of years of the job be existing. it's just a, it's a, it's a nice thing to do. it's her office. it's, you know, it's one room in a building. it is her office. do you know what i mean? she's she's been elected as an mp. she's been appointed as an mp. she's been appointed as chancellor of the exchequer by the prime minister. the state room is her office. she can do whatever she be around a lot longer than rachel reeves. well it may well be, but the fact of the matter is, she's got to work in that room every day for the next x amount of years to be fair, she can do what she wants. it's her room. >> to be fair, the room may not

be around as long if they carry on sort of literally stripping the finances of this country, they might have to sell up. but do you think then perhaps she saw the reaction with what happened when keir starmer removed thatcher's painting and thought that if i do that with my office, perhaps people won't talk about the 7500 pounds worth of clothing that she got from lord alli. >> i mean, obviously i can't speak to the chancellor's mindset, but, it's one of those where i think she wanted to empower women and make a gesture to those female business leaders that she was addressing is a gesture. she is virtue signalling and there's nothing wrong with a bit of virtue. >> virtue signalling. >> virtue signalling. >> he's acknowledged it as virtue signalling. >> yeah. i just exactly it's i cannot stand identity politics. i mean, the fact don't get me wrong, i'm very pleased we have a female chancellor. not i hope she's got there on merit. but i'm starting to think that that's probably not the case. >> looking at her performance, how else would she have got there if not on merit? i mean, you're not suggesting anything untoward there, are you know, she was. >> yeah. she won her seat. she was democratically elected. i'm just saying that i don't think she's actually got the skills . she's actually got the skills. >> well, if that's the mindset, the mindset could be that we'll

get a woman chancellor in there. so it may be there's a level of that that she may not be as good as she could be. she was a she's even focusing on the women thing herself. >> i mean, she was a bank of england analyst. she worked at the washington, the embassy in d.c. on their financial team. she was the shadow chief secretary of the treasury. she was the chair of the business committee in parliament. she was shadow chancellor. she's now chancellor, but she still needs to put paintings. the thing is, you you can't question her about being a woman. you can't go, oh, well, she might not be there on merit. you can't question her, i can't. they are legitimate for a chancellor. >> i can question those credentials because i can list all the things that i've done. but whether i was any good at them is the point. and i and i and i and i'm saying that the it's in the eating of the pudding, not the list of the ingredients in it. and right now we're eating a bit of this pudding that she's supplying, and a lot of us are getting indigestion by by that point. >> you know , if you go, oh, >> you know, if you go, oh, well, you can only say if someone's earned it on merit by how they how they do the job. how would you get to the job in the first place if you can only baseit the first place if you can only base it on merit? she was she was good at the bank of england.

she was good at you. don't i can't see she was a solid chair of the business committee. she was a solid shadow chancellor she's chancellor now. there's no reason to question why she's not there on merit. >> come to. okay. so do you think perhaps they're again trying to distract from people like jazz archewell jazz archewell, the mp for the dodgy landlord . landlord. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> who didn't pay for his own licenses for his own licensing scheme that they have forgotten. >> i won't forget, i think the prime minister has been fairly clear on that, which is why isn't he. >> yeah. and then what did he do? >> well, it's a private matter, i think it was reported to the nec of the labour party, a private matter. well, you know, it was reported to the nec of the labour party and they have processes, they have a they have a they have a process . a they have a process. >> i would have taken the whip away instantly. >> why has he still got the whip? yeah >> it's just it's an excellent question. i mean, you'll have to try and get the chief whip on here and speak to them about it, but i dare, would he? >> he wouldn't dare. >> he wouldn't dare. >> i can assure you. i can assure you, if i was in the bev turner in the whips office, i would have advised to suspend him, because i think it was completely inappropriate for the labour party to be the party of social justice and higher standards of living, and try and push that in social housing,

when as a private landlord, he can't even get his hmos right. i completely agree with that. yeah, yeah. >> well, based on rachel reeves going back to rachel reeves, her performance so far , i don't performance so far, i don't think she's been very good. >> i think she's been awful. i think she's. i mean, if you look at what's happened so far, this whole 22 billion black hole is just all of a sudden she won't give us the details. >> well, we shall find out, because it looks like it looks like she might actually fall in it. the next. my monologue on sir keir starmer's freebies scandal, which is what i think it is. is the prime minister guilty of double standards? send me your thoughts, post your comments gbnews.com/yoursay but first let's get an update. it is glorious out there here in the south east. let's get an update with your . weather. with your. weather. >> it looks like things are heating up . boxt boilers heating up. boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news >> hello there. good afternoon. today marks the end of

astronomical summer with the equinox tomorrow. and for some of us there is some sunny spells to end the summer, but for others it is more of a thundery end due to this low pressure thatis end due to this low pressure that is pushing into southern areas. and these occluded fronts here have already started to provide some heavy showers and thunderstorms in places, a particular focus for that as we continue into this evening is wales central southwestern areas of england. there could be some disruption in places. again, frequent lightning and hail is also possible. a second pulse of thundery rain arriving as we head into the latter stages of the night as well, generally dner the night as well, generally drier further towards the north, we might see a few showers just clipping the far south of northern ireland, but generally northwestern areas of scotland could be quite chilly underneath the clearer skies. elsewhere, it is generally a rather mild night as we start off sunday in the north. then there is going to be an east west split. quite a lot of cloud to start the day, particularly along that eastern side with that producing a bit of drizzle in places. it will try to burn back, but really the best of the sunshine is certainly going to be for the highlands, lewis and harris and argyll and bute. a few sunny spells also developing as we head throughout the day for

northern ireland once the fog begins to clear its way off. but you'll see those showery outbreaks of rain spreading across much of wales central and southern areas of england, and they will continue right throughout the day. again, there is a rain warning in force so we could see further spray on roads, surface water issues so it certainly is worth taking care and keeping up to date with the forecast. the graphics here not to be taken too literally, but it just gives an indication that that western side really could see some quite heavy pulses of rain, quite humid in amongst all of this as well. temperatures topping up around 20 to 21 c, 20 even possible across the sunnier spots of northwest scotland. that rain will linger as we head throughout sunday evening, stalling a bit across wales and the midlands before it gradually wants to shift its way eastwards as we head throughout the day on monday. but things generally staying unsettled into the new working week, and it's also looking to turn cooler for all of us. enjoy the rest of your weekend by that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers . inside from boxt boilers. >> sponsors of weather on

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question. i'm posing you that question. i'm posing you that question. i'm posing you that question. i want to hear what you think . then in my after 4:00 you think. then in my after 4:00 here, starmer tries to explain why he has to sit in a box to watch his beloved arsenal . watch his beloved arsenal. >> i've had season tickets at arsenal for a long time now, up in the stands where i've gone with my boy and my friends for year after year after year. now i'm prime minister. the security advice is that i can't go into the stands , or if i did, you'd the stands, or if i did, you'd have to put so much sort of security in that it would cost the taxpayer a fortune . as the taxpayer a fortune. as a result, i've been offered tickets elsewhere in the ground where it's more secure and we don't have to use taxpayer money on additional security and that's why i've taken the decision that i have . decision that i have. >> oh, he feels sorry for the taxpayer. really then in difficult conversations. are you a fan of married at first sight? i'll be joined by a wedding celebrant from the series and a matchmaker. if you're looking for love, you won't want to miss

that. and my panel go head to headin that. and my panel go head to head in my quick fire quiz. but before we get started, let's get your latest news with tatiana sanchez. >> nana. thank you and good afternoon. the top stories . afternoon. the top stories. today is day two of the reform conference in birmingham with party leader nigel farage giving his farewell address earlier this afternoon. last night, mr farage told supporters he believes reform can win the next general election, given the number of people that agree with their principles. he also explained what drove him to stand as clacton's mp once the general election was called. earlier this year. >> at almost every level we've been betrayed. and then i thought about what was happening on our streets and frankly, i thought to myself, britain is broken . and then i couldn't help broken. and then i couldn't help it. but if britain is broken,

then logically britain needs reform. >> meanwhile, mr farage has signed over ownership of the party, meaning he could feasibly be removed by a vote of no confidence going forward. unlike most political parties, reform uk was originally formed as a limited company with mr farage holding most of the shares, but as of now the reform leader has relinquished the ownership and members will now be able to vote on party policies. in other news, thousands have gathered for a march for palestine making its way through the streets of liverpool today. organised by the palestine solidarity campaign. the group say their demands include ending the genocide, stopping the arming of israel and saying no to war in the middle east. they also say they will be directing these aims towards the government at the annual labour party conference, which begins in liverpool tomorrow. now, this year marks the 80th anniversary of operation market garden and

the battle of arnhem. celebrations in the netherlands this weekend will commemorate 80 years since 1900. allied troops parachuted into the then occupied country with the aim of recapturing the bridges of arnhem. throughout the day today, the contemporary equivalents of those men are recreating the drop at ginkel heath in ada, jumping from an aircraft into the same place our troops would have landed eight decades ago. earlier, brigadier mark berry told gb news how it feels to be there on the ground today. >> i think the struggle that soldiers felt here on the ground, the very, very difficult conditions that they faced , conditions that they faced, epitomise what any one of us feel we could be called to face in the modern era, and therefore we come here to commemorate the bravery of those who went before us, and to challenge ourselves to think about their bravery and will we be brave enough when our time comes ?

time comes? >> now the met office has issued a further weather warning , with a further weather warning, with heavy rain and thunderstorms forecast for the rest of the weekend. the alert will remain in place throughout today , in place throughout today, covering wales, the midlands, the southwest and parts of the south east. the forecasters warned that people should expect damage to buildings as a result of lightning strikes, disruption to public transport and flooding, all within the affected areas . and tonight affected areas. and tonight anthony joshua will challenge daniel dubois for the ibf world heavyweight title at a sold out wembley stadium . the all—british wembley stadium. the all—british fight will see joshua try to take the title from dubois in an attempt to join the likes of muhammad ali, lennox lewis and evander holyfield by becoming a three time world heavyweight champion. things remained relatively calm at the weigh in yesterday, although both fighters have said they will do whatever it takes to win . and whatever it takes to win. and those are the latest gb news headlines. for now i'm tatiana sanchez. more from me in half an

hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . forward slash alerts. >> thank you. tatiana. fast approaching six minutes after 4:00. this is gb news. you're with me. i'm nana akua. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. there he was, pontificating on high about tory sleaze. keir starmer as ever. >> one rule for them , another >> one rule for them, another rule for everybody else. a new britain built on decency , britain built on decency, security, prosperity and respect is welcome in my labour party . is welcome in my labour party. >> remember this . >> remember this. >> remember this. >> what a joke. even now , as the >> what a joke. even now, as the latest mealy mouthed apology stumbles out of one side of his

mouth, a new set of deflections and distortions pour from the other. yeah, yeah. but the damage is already done. the pubuc damage is already done. the public have made up their mind. they don't believe a word the prime minister says . they know prime minister says. they know what he is. yeah. >> look at the word cloud. >> look at the word cloud. >> as ever with this prime minister, those close to him find themselves ruined. and the institutions he vows to protect . institutions he vows to protect. damaged. yes. good. ministers forced to walk away from public service . the chancellor's career service. the chancellor's career up in flames . and the leader of up in flames. and the leader of the scottish conservatives rendered pathetic . rendered pathetic. >> come election time , people >> come election time, people like carol vorderman bragging on about tory sleaze. >> divisiveness. >> divisiveness. >> they're cruelty. >> they're cruelty. >> they're cruelty. >> they're robbing. and there lies go there. >> stop the tories ! stop,

though. >> right now. see you there . >> right now. see you there. >> right now. see you there. >> and now we learn that sir keir starmer has declared more gifts and freebies than any other mp. and yes, that includes more than boris johnson. other mp. and yes, that includes more than borisjohnson. his more than boris johnson. his total in gifts, benefits and hospitality since 2009, topping £150,000. here he is justifying why he needs to be in a box at his beloved arsenal. >> i've had season tickets at arsenal for a long time now up in the stands where i've gone with my boy and my friends for year after year, after year. now i'm prime minister. the security advice is that i can't go into the stands. or if i did, you'd have to put so much sort of security in that would cost the taxpayer a fortune. as a result, i've been offered tickets elsewhere in the ground where it's more secure and we don't have to use taxpayer money on additional security. and that's why i've taken the decision that ihave.

>> oh, that's good of him. in the meantime, keir, prince william, who is arguably far more important than you and rishi sunak when he was prime minister, were able to sit in the stands. but keir wants us to believe that he's doing this because he cares about the taxpayer. please, if you cared about us, keir, you'd backtrack on your ridiculously damaging policies. i mean, this has got to be the most uncaring government i have ever had the misfortune to be led by and they've only been in power for just ten weeks. they've only just ten weeks. they've only just started. they've attacked pensioners, removing their winter fuel allowance and school children with the vat rate whilst accepting gifts. but they're all at it. angela rayneh they're all at it. angela rayner, who accepted three and a half grand's worth of clothing . half grand's worth of clothing. rachel reeves, our chancellor, who accepted 7500 pounds of free clothes. perhaps she could donate them to pensioners to keep them warm. david lammy,

accepting £10,000. i mean, this is ridiculous. so whilst the labour leader was fanning the flames of partygate and even as beergate came out when he said angela rayner wasn't there, even though a video emerged showing a mystery redhead in what looked like the same room as him. and when he said it was an impromptu gathering with about six people, which turned out to be at least 19 after someone discovered a receipt which showed if there were only six people there, they must have been either very hungry or incredibly greedy. and then a memo was unearthed to confirm that there was nothing impromptu about the meeting itself. the man who let abusers out of jail early to make way for people who had made hurty feeling, post on social media. now i'm for not one minute suggesting that people who inadvertently instigated riots should be shouldn't be punished. but there has to be a level of proportionality. you can't empty the jails of petty thieves and domestic abusers to make room for these people. he accepted free clothes for his wife. in what kind of manner allows

another man to buy his wife clothes? and he accepted two and a half grand's worth of spectacles whilst earning £167,000 as a prime minister and is rumoured to have a property portfolio worth millions. well, that's way more than most. surely the starmer's can also afford to buy their own clothes. he's also got a massive pension . he's also got a massive pension. >> it's a lot of money, a lot of clothes. we have lady starmer looking fabulous at london fashion week in a borrowed dress. but, you know, people will just say the prime minister and his wife going to events looking amazing while cutting pensioners up. >> so even with evidence mounting against keir, some were so angry with boris over watergate wallpapergate partygate animal gate to even question the integrity of sir keir starmer and those of us who did were seen as far right.

well, here he is folks, our great leader. it's fascinating listening to people trying to excuse his behaviour and that of his close labour allies. you can almost see the mental gymnastics that they use to try and excuse him. so whilst things have got worse for us, they certainly got better for keir and his greedy clan. absolutely disgraceful and utter hypocrite . well, before we utter hypocrite. well, before we get stuck with the debate, here's what else is coming up today for the great british debate this hour. i'm asking a political commentator and trade unionist. do you believe reform uk could replace the tories? then it's the pulse where we look into the latest health stories . and this week nhs stories. and this week nhs hospitals are increasingly charging patients for treatment, with income rising by a quarter in just a year. isn't that outrageous? or is it about time that nhs became part of a privatised system? that's coming up as ever. tell me what you think. post your comments. send me your thoughts.

gbnews.com/yoursay . right. well, gbnews.com/yoursay. right. well, let's get the thoughts of the now former labour minister denis macshane. denis macshane, isn't it? surely it's indefensible, all these freebees. and i'm not saying that he's alone in it. i mean, the other ministers from other parties have accepted freebies as well. but he's in power and he has. he held boris johnson up and literally told us how bad boris johnson was for being so dishonest and distrustful. and isn't what he's doing similar? similar? >> it's a lovely sunny day outside nana, but you're really storming through. >> it's very good, very powerful. i love it, but i mean, there's no comparison with boris johnson because there was a lot of serious problems with covid, with corruption, with putting people in the house of lords, taking money from putin, that starmer is not guilty of what he is guilty of. undoubtedly. and believe me, talking to all my labour friends today, yesterday, this week and there's a lot of

worry and concern is a lack of judgement. what he doesn't have is what i call a. he needs a in his team. what is a? it's jonathan powellj a alastair campbell p peter mandelson, and there seems to be no one there, no one there who just says, look, prime minister, don't do this for your own sake. we know you're not cheating or thieving or anything, but don't do it. and this is what baffles me is just the lack of judgement. so, so he hasn't got a moral compass of his own. >> he needs somebody else to tell him that. don't accept free. i don't think he should be accepting free taylor swift tickets. i don't think he should be accepting free tickets for arsenal at all. he's got a massive salary compared to most people. he's also got a property portfolio worth millions. so he's not a poor man. so why on earth would he allow another man to give his wife ? to give his wife? >> it's not good enough. only thing where your lovely list of crimes against humanity you're reading out against him. the

only thing where i just jibbed a bit , looking only thing where i just jibbed a bit, looking at only thing where i just jibbed a bit , looking at what only thing where i just jibbed a bit, looking at what has happenedin bit, looking at what has happened in terms of assassination attempts on world leaders. if he is told, don't go to your usual seat, here's a kind of box somewhere far off. you can sit there . it's the only you can sit there. it's the only area on the suits on the glasses. i don't i don't even understand how somebody gives you glasses. you have to go to an optician to be checked for glasses. these are all things that , frankly, are. i think that, frankly, are. i think they'll be lost in the wash. i remember, though, hopes he could buy them himself. well, so yes, most people, many people buy their glasses themselves. others go to specsavers . now, go to specsavers. now, i remember there's a guy called chris mullin who you remember, a very distinguished left labour mp friend of mine side beside him as closer than i am to you about 1994 95. and i'm jeering at john major and the tories for sleaze. do you remember they were accused of sleaze? yes, yes, chris, very hard on the tories, turned to me and said , dennis,

turned to me and said, dennis, shut up, because we'll be in power soon and we will be found out to be just as guilty in our own way. and that would be, i caution, certainly, the conservatives. it's very interesting. nigel farage isn't doing too much on on sleaze because of course , he's because of course, he's trousered £140,000 a year since he's been an mp and just turned up three times in the commons. most of us expect mps. i was expected to be in the commons working for my constituents. what's nigel doing? >> well, he said no, no, no, no. >> later , later. >> later, later. >> later, later. >> well, no, he has said that he's doing that because he's worried for his own security and safety. and house of commons. no, no no no no i'm talking about the clacton stuff. are you talking about the house of commons? >> no, i mean, he can work in clacton. he can work remotely if necessary. he has just done three questions and trousered 100 and say £38,000 from money outside, not as very handsome salary, not as very handsome expenses.

salary, not as very handsome expenses . so i mean reform. expenses. so i mean reform. well, good luck to reform. but yes, i know they're allowed to. i know they're allowed to. and the tories were, you know, the number of tories who were landlords and stopped any reform to protect tenants in the whip's office. they all had an interest in ensuring tenants were. exactly, exactly. >> well, look. so exactly. we're not a ping pong so the point of this is, is that when you have a vested interest or somebody giving you a gift, it's not really it's very difficult for you to then make a sort of an objective decision. you're going to be making decisions. somebody softened you up with some gifts, some glasses and all this and all that, and the worry is that people can then infiltrate your decision making if you're in power. that's not really a good look. >> i completely agree with you. and that's why robert jenrick shouldn't even be in the competition, because he took off on behalf of the tory party big money from a property developer, and actually overrode his own planning, inspection and the law of the land to give this tory mate a development possibility.

>> okay, well, listen, we could then we could talk about that for ages because i'm still waiting for the labour to perhaps remove the whip from jazz aswell, so. well, we'll see what happens with that. but thank you very much. denis macshane. right, nigel farage has closed reform uk's annual conference with the party still buoyant after winning five mps at july's general election, and they have a rather ambitious aim. they say they want to win the general election in 2019 and fix broken britain . all of this fix broken britain. all of this ahead of the beginning of the labour party conference, which starts tomorrow but has been overshadowed by the freebies scandal. sir keir starmer has announced that he and his ministerial colleagues will no longer accept donations for clothes, but questions will be asked as to whether he should accept gifts at all. ridiculous. i mean, it's just not good enough , especially when they're enough, especially when they're cutting winter fuel payments for pensioners and taxes are set to rise, as they promised us. things would only get worse before they get better. but some breaking news moments ago, sir keir starmer arrived in liverpool for the labour party's first annual conference in government for 15 years. let's return to birmingham . oh, right.

return to birmingham. oh, right. well we're having a trouble to bnng well we're having a trouble to bring you that. we'll try and bnng bring you that. we'll try and bring you that. we'll try and bring you that, but let's return to birmingham. speak to gb news tom harwood tom harwood. you're there at reform uk's conference, so it's looking a bit quieter now. i am indeed, yeah. >> and i'll be following sir keir starmer to liverpool in just a couple of hours time, so we'll be catching up with him throughout the next few days. but here in birmingham, the reform uk party conference has closed. they've actually just started dismantling the set around me, so i hope we can last for as long as this interview takes , because i'm delighted to takes, because i'm delighted to be joined now by a councillor in none other than the seat of mr nigel farage. yes, clacton councillor jeff bray is with me and jeff. this has been a very different style of conference for reform uk. it's been bigger, it's been grander, but of course you haven't been a member of reform uk for all that long. you

defected from the conservatives. why was that ? why was that? >> i think moving from the conservative was an obvious thing to do. >> the conservative party were in freefall. >> they everything was going wrong. the real key turning point for me was the time that david cameron came back into the conservative cabinet. >> that was the real swinger for me. >> but let's be honest, the conservatives weren't getting much right. >> and there comes a point when you just you just can't keep supporting that. >> you need to do something different . reform look like the different. reform look like the right option to me. they speak the kind of language i want. >> i want to hear, they're the kind of party i want to be part of . of. >> and that's why i'm here. >> and that's why i'm here. >> and that's why i'm here. >> and now. of course, you are a councillor in the patch of nigel farage. do you see him often? have you. have you seen him locally in clacton as well? because there's been a lot of controversy about how often he turns up to constituency events, how often, how local he is as a member of parliament. >> yeah, it's been interesting. we read the social media posts as well. i actually think we

probably see more of him at the moment than his wife does. i've been out many times with nigel over the last few weeks . over the last few weeks. >> we visited police stations, fire stations, local residents , fire stations, local residents, local charities. all of those people will tell you that because we were there, >> but of course, i'm afraid our opposition like to put out a narrative that's not necessarily correct. >> i can assure you, nigel is in clacton an awful lot. >> i know that, because i'm often with him . often with him. >> and yet he doesn't do constituency surgeries. why is that? >> it's very difficult . we have >> it's very difficult. we have a difficult situation. the problem with having a high profile member of parliament like nigel farage is that, unfortunately is a target for those who wish to do him harm, >> security is a very serious issue. we have an office opening up. it will open, but it won't open until it can be made secure. and we can guarantee the safety of our mp. >> let's not forget, bad things have happened to mps in the past. >> and our first responsibility is to make sure that doesn't happen again as soon as we're able. as soon as we can get an

open, of course, our mp will be sitting with our constituents. in the meantime, we will visit as many as he can, and we will do as much as we can online. and of course, there are councillors like myself and the other three who can help out to security. takes time, unfortunately. please bear with us. be patient . please bear with us. be patient. we're getting there. >> okay. and finally , looking >> okay. and finally, looking from this conference into the future , it's been interesting to future, it's been interesting to hear so many people on the stage over the last two days saying that this party could form the government after the next election. is that really credible? >> of course it's credible. have a look around you. you have a conservative party that's basically completely gone. >> there's not much left of it worth talking about, and i suspect it will only get worse. >> you have a labour party who i think have done everything possible to make themselves the most hated party in the world, over the last few weeks and actually, nobody really knows what the liberal democrats for stand anyway, >> so yes, it's perfectly

credible. >> we are the only party growing. we're gaining members. we've gained, i believe, a thousand couple of members in the last day. that's huge . where the last day. that's huge. where our membership is not far behind the conservative party we're growing. we're growing in strength. people are seeing the message. they're starting to disregard the silly notions that we're in some way racist. we're certainly not. i don't know anybody in the party who really cares what colour somebody's skin is. we're not racist. we just want people to behave according to british law . and according to british law. and reasonably, that's all we're asking for. so yes, of course it's credible. there's every possibility and will for be years to do it. so if you're if you're in a labour government at the moment, look out, we're coming. >> goodness me. from five seats to 326. it's a mountain . but, to 326. it's a mountain. but, i suppose we'll see how it goes. jeff bray, thank you very much for joining us here at the forjoining us here at the reform party conference. that's it from me. back to you, nana. >> thank you very much. that was tom harwood there at the reform party conference as it all wraps up. but we'll be hearing from him as well with regard to the labour party conference, which kicks off very shortly. but you're with me. i'm nana akua 23

minutes after 4:00. this is a gb news. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio next it's time for another great british debate this hour. and i'm asking, do you believe that reform uk could replace the tories ?

good afternoon. if you've just tuned in, where have you been? 27 minutes after 4:00. this is gb news. we are britain's news channel. i'm nana akua and it's time for the second great british debate this hour. and i'm asking , british debate this hour. and i'm asking, do you british debate this hour. and i'm asking , do you believe i'm asking, do you believe reform uk could replace the tories ? nigel farage's party won tories? nigel farage's party won more than 4 million votes in july's general election, and they came second in a total of 98 seats, 89 of which were won by labour. though reform uk only won five seats in the house of commons, they're hoping to take

power in 2029, but is it realistic? so the great british debate this year i'm asking do you believe reform uk could replace the tories? well, let's speak to my panel. joining me now. political commentator lee harris. trade unionist andy twelves andy twelves. good afternoon . afternoon. >> do i think that they could replace the tories. i don't think that they could replace the tories, no i don't. why? i think that it looks like robert jenrick is going to be the new leader of the conservative party. he's the most i would. i actually stole this from lee in the green room . he's the most the green room. he's the most like he's the most reform ish candidate of the tory leadership candidates, i think he'll attract a lot of the kind of lost tories that reform have picked up at the last election . picked up at the last election. and also, if you look at the parliamentary reform party, you know, nigel, rupert and lee, though, you know, they're not getting any younger in five years. will they really want to run for parliament again? you know, lee will have done ten years in parliament at that point. rupert won't be that, you know, won't be that bothered, nigel. you know, he'll have been in the public realm for years and years and years by that

point. you know. will they really want to be doing that coming up to you know, 20, 30? i don't think so. i don't think that the parliamentary reform party has legs to continue on to another term. >> well, some of the labour mps have been waiting in the sidelines for the full 14 years. the conservative party were in charge . so i don't know whether charge. so i don't know whether that argument washes with me. lee harris i would love for it to happen because i'm still so very angry with the conservatives. >> but it's very, very unlikely that it's physically possible to do it. however, as i was also saying in the green room, it was, i think that the environment is different now. i think things are different. i don't think you can compare what's happened in the past to what's happened in the past to what may happen in the future. so all of these scenarios like, oh, it seems a bit like the sdp, which is what you were saying earlier. i just don't think that's relevant now. the landscape , political landscape landscape, political landscape in this country has completely changed. there there are voters are not as loyal as they are to, to a single party. they're very happy to move around. they'll vote for whoever they think. and i do think that that that what reform are offering is more in

tune with the bulk of the british public. that's my personal belief. i believe that there is a there is a gaping hole for reform that they have filled and will that translate into. well, they got their mps so genuinely i wasn't that sure that they were even going to get any mps. they got their mps in. that's great. can they go from five mps to 300 mps? i think that's a big ask. >> well, they came second in 98 seats, so they're not really that far behind. it's our electoral system that didn't give them a little bit more as it should have done. remember, they got more votes than the liberal democrats, but liberal democrats ended up with 72 seats. >> i mean, we don't we don't have a proportional representation system. thank god. that's not going to change very soon. realistically, we'll have first past the post for, i assume, many, many years . so the assume, many, many years. so the electoral system doesn't really favour the reform party. and also it's quite hard to build a party like, you know, what they've done is no mean feat. and i say that as a, you know, as a paid up member of the

labour party, you know, going from basically nothing to having five mps and, you know, a decent spread of councillors, it's quite impressive. but really, you know, it's like a start up, you know, it's like a start up, you know, it's quite difficult to scale up to that kind of big ibm level kind of organisation. ibm level kind of organisation. i just don't think reform uk have got the internal organisation or abilities to do it because it's very difficult. >> yet . but they are >> yet. but they are democratising the party. look, i went to the reform uk conference just as a punter like everybody else, and i'm going to all of the conferences . so there's no the conferences. so there's no bias, there's none of that. but i went to the conference and i have to say, there were so many amazing people there, wonderful people. they're not far right or all this nonsense that's been going out there. no, they were very welcoming. they're very nice to me. and there were so many young people as well . i was many young people as well. i was really quite impressed with the engagement of young people. that was the main thing that i took away from there. so i think that the labour party, if they don't sort themselves out, they, the reform uk are one to watch. and the conservative party, i think the conservative party, i think the conservative party know that. but shall we return to that. but shall we return to that breaking news that moments

ago sir keir starmer arrived in liverpool for the labour party's first annual conference in government for 15 years. welcome back to liverpool . welcome back to liverpool. >> welcome to conference, our biggest conference ever. and the first 1 in 15 years with labour in government. and change is starting de—man. and today we're going to set out and over the next coming days how we're fixing the foundations and rebuilding our country. so enjoy. conference very, very good to be here. >> so sir keir starmer earlier today and in liberty conference. right. well we're talking about that as well. you're with me. i'm nana akua 32 minutes after 4:00. we're live on tv, online, on digital radio. this is gb news coming up. it's the pulse where we look into the latest

health stories. this week, we'll be discussing news that the nhs hospitals are increasingly charging for private treatments due to financial pressures and long waiting lists. so is our health service broken? first, though, let's get your latest news with tatiana sanchez . news with tatiana sanchez. >> nana. thank you. and as you've just been hearing, the prime minister has arrived at the labour party conference. sir keir starmer said labour's conference would show how labour are fixing the foundations and rebuilding our country. are fixing the foundations and rebuilding our country . well, rebuilding our country. well, arriving at that conference centre in liverpool, just moments ago, alongside his deputy, his deputy angela rayneh deputy, his deputy angela rayner, the prime minister said it was labour's biggest conference ever. >> change is scottish and today we're going to set out and over the next coming days how we're fixing the foundations and rebuilding our country. so enjoy conference. very, very good to be here and today is day two of the reform conference in

birmingham , with party leader birmingham, with party leader nigel farage giving his farewell address earlier this afternoon. >> last night mr farage told supporters he believes reform can win the next general election, given the number of people that agree with their principles. he also explained what drove him to stand as clacton's mp once the general election was called earlier this yeah >> at almost every level we've been betrayed. and then i thought about what was happening on our streets and frankly, i thought to myself, britain is broken . and then i couldn't help broken. and then i couldn't help it. but if britain is broken, then logically britain needs reform and the met office has issued a further weather warning with heavy rain and thunderstorms forecast for the rest of the weekend. >> the alert will remain in place throughout today, covering wales, the midlands, the south west and parts of the south east. the forecasters warned

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>> good afternoon is fast approaching 39 minutes after 4:00. this is gb news. we are britain's news channel. i'm nana akua. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. it's time now for the pulse. oh sorry. nhs hospitals are increasingly charging for private treatments to financial pressures , to ease

to financial pressures, to ease financial pressures and long waiting lists . with private waiting lists. with private patient income rising by a quarter in the past year. now, this trend driven by deficits over £2 billion in a more relaxed labour party stance on private sector involvement is expected to continue . so is our expected to continue. so is our health system broken? is it? joining me now to discuss is gp and medical writer doctor jenny honda. camp renee beautifully said right. what do you. so can you explain how this new sort of evolution of care might work? >> so i think at the moment, the way it's working is it's really focusing on the kind of things that you would want to buy if you were staying at a hotel , so you were staying at a hotel, so you were staying at a hotel, so you wouldn't want to share your room with someone else. so you buy your own room. most people would like an ensuite, so you pay a would like an ensuite, so you pay a bit extra for that so people are able to pace and i see this happening on things like maternity wards. so we're in the main . once you've had in the main. once you've had your baby, you're put in a ward with six other women and their babies and all of the kerfuffle that goes alongside that. they're not the most restful places. quite often, women can

pay places. quite often, women can pay extra to have a side room of their own with a door that shuts. >> they used to have that anyway, because i can remember being in an nhs hospital for my first child, and then going partly private so that i could then have a room when i'd had my baby. so it's like they're going backwards. so they kind of accelerating it now. >> so in the past, those , those >> so in the past, those, those separate rooms would have gone to nhs patients on a first come, first serve kind of basis. but now i think they're actually a lot of hospitals are keeping them aside, not giving them to nhs patients and charging for them. and many women will pay whatever it is, an extra £100 a night to have their own private room. i completely get it. i think i probably would as well. and then they're paying for things like food. if you want special food, bunch of flowers, bowl of fruit, those kind of things. so it's kind of the accessories that people would get if they went private. but still having their treatment within the nhs . i think it's within the nhs. i think it's interesting. i'm not sure that they should necessarily be focusing on being hotels, but i

do like the idea of people having a list where they can pay for certain things privately. so i think the nhs is broken. it is absolutely broken. what i don't think is i don't think it's broken beyond repair. i think that we would still be able to offer an nhs that looks free at the point of contact, but we need to cut down nana. the kind of things that we do within that free. so we need to concentrate on cancer, children, mental health, long term conditions and accident and emergency and all of the other stuff that would be really nice to do. we should offer within the nhs, but on a tariff. so you've got a menu card, here's this treatment that you can't have done on the nhs unless you want to go on our not for profit tariff. and i would put things on there like ivf for example. now i know people what about gender. >> no, no that wouldn't be on there at all. >> i don't think that should be on there, but i certainly don't think the nhs should be paying for it . but for example, there for it. but for example, there are people now who don't qualify for ivf, but they do qualify for

some assistance. so, they can actually opt to have that within the nhs, fertility clinic and pay the nhs, fertility clinic and pay less for it than they would at a private clinic. i've got some patients doing that right now, and i think that's a brilliant idea. why not? if we've got the facilities and people are prepared to pay, let's do it. but only for the things that we shouldn't really be doing at the moment when the budget is finite. i absolutely agree that if we had the money tree that everyone talks about, of course we should do ivf because children are wonderful and people should have them. of course we should do varicose veins even when they're just, cosmetic, you know, those kind of things. but we don't have that money tree, so let's do those things for people . but those things for people. but let's do it on a not for profit tariff. so it's cheaper than if they actually went privately. but it's still done within the nhs and it makes a tiny bit of money for the nhs. >> if you could point to the single one thing that you think has broken the nhs, i'm sure there's a big list. but the thing that would be at the top of your list, what would it be?

>> there's two things because they're in different areas . so they're in different areas. so i think procurement of drugs , think procurement of drugs, machinery, that kind of thing is shocking. no private business would run procurement in the way that they do. we need to bring it back centrally, harness the power of being the nhs and drive those contracts down. and the other thing is the fragmentation . other thing is the fragmentation. so we have split the nhs up into so many silos now, all of whom need back up admin support machinery , buildings, offices, machinery, buildings, offices, more holes for patients to fall through. i think again, we need to slim it down and bring it all back together. fascinating. >> doctor renee, when are you back on? >> 6:00. you can see me on saturday five live. >> and what are you doing? anything exciting in there? >> what's your. i'm going to talk about the ugandan man who bludgeoned someone to death in the back of an ambulance. oh, god. that's my first cheery topic. my second cheery topic is ed davey doing karaoke at his conference. >> oh, dear. well, at least he's having fun. renee. thank you

very much. lovely to speak to you. she'll be back at 6:00 with the saturday five. that is gp and medical writer , doctor renee and medical writer, doctor renee hoenderkamp. right. well, you're with me . it's 44 minutes after with me. it's 44 minutes after four. it's fast approaching and we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. coming up in the next hour. my great british debate and i'm asking, should people be paying for treatment on the nhs

good afternoon. 47 minutes after 4:00. lots of you have been getting in touch. gbnews.com/yoursay. i will read some of those out. you know, somebody told me i do speak very fast.i somebody told me i do speak very fast. i know that i do. my mother's always saying nana to boil it and that is true for. slow down. for goodness sake, woman, stop flubbing your gums. so fast. but we are live on tv,

onune so fast. but we are live on tv, online and on digital radio, and it's online and on digital radio, and wsfime online and on digital radio, and it's time now for another great british debate. and this time i'm asking should people be paying i'm asking should people be paying for treatment on the nhs now? nhs hospitals are increasingly charging patients, with income rising by a quarter in just a year. by doing so now, the figure is expected to keep rising and lots of trusts are hoping to take advantage of labour's relaxed attitude to the private sector. whilst hospitals are seeking to maximise potential income from patients facing facing huge waiting lists. so that's why i'm asking you should people be paying for their treatment on the nhs? well, joining me to discuss political commentator lee harris, also trade unionist andy twelves. lee harris, what are your thoughts? no >> my knee jerk reaction is no, they shouldn't be paying. why? well, under the system, we've got free at the point of use. i don't think there should be an expectation for anyone to pay for anything. that doesn't mean to say that i don't think people should. there should be certain services that you should pay for. so, for example, i'm very pro charging people for not turning up for doctor's

appointments. i think that's a good idea, i don't think that it's. but i just think that, you know, should it always remain free at the point of use and that should, you know , whether that should, you know, whether you're a conservative or you're on the left, i think that that should that should remain untouched. but i am very pro looking at the system as a whole. and not treating the nhs like some sort of religion that shall not be criticised. and i think even wes streeting it's come up against a little bit of criticism for even mentioning the word reform, not in the party sense of the nhs. it just seems that if anyone dares mention anything about changing the nhs, everyone just has a complete meltdown. >> i don't know, i think those days are gone now. andy twelves i don't, i don't think that people should be paying for the nhs. >> no, i think you pay in your taxes for free at the point of use, and i strongly believe in that principle. it was founded by the labour party. it's been, you know , continued through by you know, continued through by labour governments, tory governments, coalition governments. and i don't think it will be a labour government that should end that.

>> but they're saying certain elements. so if you were listening to the interview that we had with renee, she was talking, she was basically saying so certain things that you could argue maybe people should pay for themselves . so should pay for themselves. so for example, fertility treatment and stuff like that, you could argue that you're not necessarily ill, but you could do with some help so that you can bear children, things like that. you could potentially pay rather than paying privately. you could pay the nhs and it would be actually cheaper than private. that's the sort of thing she's talking about. >> i still think that it should be free at the point of use. i stand, i think. yeah, generally speaking, but it's totally unsustainable. >> i mean, you've gone back to 70. how many years ago it was launched and it was set up by a nye bevan. but that the population was a lot smaller. we didn't have an issue with infrastructure. we've got all those problems. and so now making it free for absolutely everybody for anything is causing it's causing a problem. >> this is a conversation that happens every 20 years since 19. you know , 47. was it when it was you know, 47. was it when it was founded? you know, the population has changed significantly over every 20 years. you know , increased years. you know, increased significantly. things things have changed quite

significantly. so i think it is a conversation of how do we evolve it into its next form. but i think that next form should always be free at the point of use. >> well, okay, let's see what our viewers think, because this show is nothing without you and your views. let's welcome our great british voices, their opportunity to be on the show. tell us what they think about the topics we're discussing today. let's go to shropshire. i'm going to have a chat with adrian gell. adrian, thank you for joining me. so what do you forjoining me. so what do you think , adrian nana. think, adrian nana. >> thanks for having me on again. it's a pleasure. >> what do you think, then? should it be? should there be elements that you would have to pay elements that you would have to pay for directly ? pay for directly? >> well, i think the point that it should be free at the point of use is, is absolutely essential. but at the same time, you know, for unnecessary surgeries, cosmetic surgeries , surgeries, cosmetic surgeries, that sort of thing. i have absolutely no problem with, with people paying for paying for that. equally, i think if hospitals want to charge for private rooms, that sort of thing, i don't. i don't have a problem with that. i think the, the point with that is and

having had surgery myself at the beginning of this year for prostate cancer, actually being on a, on a ward was absolutely invaluable because if, if i needed sudden, sudden attention , needed sudden, sudden attention, there were, there were nurses on hand which if you're shut behind a door in a private room, you don't get, but at least that would that's the that's the choice for somebody, and i just think that the choice should be there if people want to pay for treatment, then, then that's absolutely fine. i don't have a problem with it. i drugs, but drugs and, surgical treatments for cancer, for example, like myself, i think that that should be absolutely for point of use. >> yeah . and i think that's what >> yeah. and i think that's what that's what they're alluding to. i agree with you on that as well. adrian gell, thank you so much. that's adrian in shropshire . that's adrian in shropshire. very reasonable man isn't he. thank you very much adrian . well thank you very much adrian. well listen, lots of you have been getting in touch with your thoughts , we're talking we've

thoughts, we're talking we've been talking about angela rayner and keir starmer as well. they've all been accepting gifts, this one from andy. he's asking proud to have voted labour question mark. yeah me. well are you. >> yeah. yeah. without a question. yeah all right. >> well, sylvia says this. luckily, i'm a bit i'm very fit, nearly 70 years old. i'm on no meds and haven't seen a gp in years. i recently went to my opticians for new specs and was referred for cataract surgery on the nhs. i got referred to a place within a week and had both my eyes done separately. within six weeks. a fabulous service. i can't believe the difference it made to my life. so lots of people saying quite a few people saying that, let's see this one here, joel says rayner now wants to go ahead with irreversible changes to devolution in the north. this is very worrying and potentially giving away more power to those who could make the country even more unrecognisable than it is now. interesting and lots of you were coming getting in touch with some of which i sadly can't read. hahaha and then andy again

says watch starmer. he won't go near everyday pensioners, but we'll see if he does when he's doing his , his conference, doing his, his conference, lovely. all right. keep them coming . gbnews.com/yoursay lots coming. gbnews.com/yoursay lots more still to come on the programme. i'm nana akua we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. now, if you are in unlucky in love, well, stay tuned, because i'll be talking all things romance with the dating expert and a prolific wedding celebrant. yes, she was the one from married at first sight. and of course a matchmaker will be joining us now, so stay tuned. first, let's get an update with your . weather. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on gb news . news. >> hello there. good afternoon. today marks the end of astronomical summer with the

equinox. tomorrow and for some of us there is some sunny spells to end the summer , but for to end the summer, but for others it is more of a thundery end due to this low pressure thatis end due to this low pressure that is pushing into southern areas. and these occluded fronts here have already started to provide some heavy showers and thunderstorms in places particular focus for that as we continue into this evening is wales central southwestern areas of england. there could be some disruption in places. again, frequent lightning and hail is also possible . a second pulse of also possible. a second pulse of thundery rain arriving as we head into the latter stages of the night as well, generally dner the night as well, generally drier further towards the north. we might see a few showers just clipping the far south of northern ireland, but generally northwestern areas of scotland could be quite chilly underneath the clearer skies . elsewhere, it the clearer skies. elsewhere, it is generally a rather mild night as we start off sunday in the north. then there is going to be an east west split. quite a lot of cloud to start the day, particularly along that eastern side with that producing a bit of drizzle in places. it will try to burn back, but really the best of the sunshine is certainly going to be for the highlands. lewis and harris and argyll and bute. a few sunny spells also developing as we

head throughout the day for northern ireland. once the fog begins to clear its way off. but you'll see those showery outbreaks of rain spreading across much of wales central and southern areas of england, and they will continue right throughout the day. again, there is a rain warning in force so we could see further spray on roads, surface water issues so it certainly is worth taking care and keeping up to date with the forecast. the graphics here not to be taken too literally, but it just gives an indication that that western side really could see some quite heavy pulses of rain, quite humid in amongst all of this, as well. temperatures topping up around 20 to 21 c, 20 even possible across the sunnier spots of northwest scotland. that rain will linger as we head throughout sunday evening, stalling a bit across wales and the midlands before it gradually wants to shift its way eastwards as we head throughout the day on monday. but things generally staying unsettled into the new working week, and it's also looking to turn cooler for all of us. enjoy the rest of your weekend by. >> looks like things are heating up boxt boilers sponsors of weather

gb news. archewell >> good afternoon. it's fast approaching 5:00. this is gb news. we are britain's news channel. i'm nana akua. we're live on tv , online and on live on tv, online and on digital radio for the next hour , digital radio for the next hour, me and my panel will be taking on some of the big topics hitting the headlines right now. this show is all about opinion. it's mine, it's theirs. and of course it's yours. we'll be debating, discussing and at times we will disagree. but no one will be cancelled. so joining me today is commentator and broadcaster lee harris and also trade unionist andy twelves. coming up is the game already up for sir keir starmer? the latest approval ratings make for grim reading. just 25% of brits think that he's doing a

good job in difficult conversations. are you a fan of married at first sight? well, i'll be joined by a wedding celebrant from the series and a matchmaker. if you're looking for love, you won't want to miss that. and i challenge my panel in the quiz. but before we get started, let's get your latest news with tatiana sanchez . news with tatiana sanchez. >> nana, thank you very much and good afternoon. the top stories. the prime minister has arrived at the labour party conference. sir keir starmer said labour's conference would show how labour are fixing the foundations and rebuilding our country. arriving at the conference centre in liverpool alongside his deputy angela rayner , the prime angela rayner, the prime minister said it was labour's biggest conference ever. >> change is scottish and today we're going to set out and over the next coming days how we're fixing the foundations and rebuilding our country. so enjoy conference. very, very good to be here and today is day two of

the reform conference in birmingham with party leader nigel farage giving his farewell address earlier this afternoon. >> last night, mr farage told supporters he believes reform can win the next general election, given the number of people that agree with their principles. he also explained what drove him to stand as clacton's mp once the election was called. earlier this year. >> at almost every level we've been betrayed. and then i thought about what was happening on our streets and frankly, i thought to myself, britain is broken . and then i couldn't help broken. and then i couldn't help it. but if britain is broken, then logically britain needs reform. >> meanwhile, mr farage has signed over ownership of the party, meaning he could feasibly be removed by a vote of no confidence going forward. unlike most political parties, reform uk was originally formed as a

limited company , with mr farage limited company, with mr farage holding most of the shares , but holding most of the shares, but as of now the reform leader has relinquished the ownership and members will now be able to vote on party policies. thousands of people have gathered for a march for palestine, making its way through the streets of liverpool, organised by the palestine solidarity campaign. the group say their demands include ending the genocide, stopping the arming of israel and saying no to war in the middle east. they also say they will be directing these aims towards the government at the annual labour party conference, of course, which begins in liverpool tomorrow . now, this liverpool tomorrow. now, this year marks the 80th anniversary of operation market garden and the battle of arnhem celebrations in the netherlands. this weekend will commemorate 80 years since 1900. allied troops parachuted into the then occupied country with the aim of recapturing the bridges of arnhem throughout the day to day. the contemporary equivalents of those men are recreating the drop at ginkel

heath in ada, jumping from an aircraft into the same place our troops would have landed eight decades ago. earlier, brigadier mark berry told gb news how it feels to be there on the ground today. >> i think the struggle that soldiers felt here on the ground, the very, very difficult conditions that they faced , conditions that they faced, epitomise what any one of us feel we could be called to face in the modern era, and therefore we come here to commemorate the bravery of those who went before us, and to challenge ourselves to think about their bravery and will we be brave enough when our time comes ? time comes? >> in other news, the met office has issued a further weather warning, with heavy rain and thunderstorms forecast for the rest of the weekend. the alert will remain in place throughout today , covering wales, the today, covering wales, the midlands, the southwest and parts of the south east. the forecasters also warned that people should expect damage to

buildings as a result of lightning strikes. disruption to pubuc lightning strikes. disruption to public transport as well and flooding all within the affected areas . and tonight anthony areas. and tonight anthony joshua will challenge daniel dubois for the ibf world heavyweight title at a sold out wembley stadium. the all—british fight will see joshua try to take that title from dubois in an attempt to join the likes of muhammad ali, lennox lewis and evander holyfield by becoming a three time world heavyweight champion. things remained relatively calm at the weigh in yesterday , although both yesterday, although both fighters have said they'll do whatever it takes to win . and whatever it takes to win. and those are the latest gb news headlines. for now, i'm tatiana sanchez. i'll be back with more in half an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gb news. >> dot com. forward slash alerts . >> dot com. forward slash alerts. >> dot com. forward slash alerts. >> good afternoon. welcome. if

you've just tuned in, this is gb news. we're live on tv , online news. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua. coming up, lots more still to discuss if you're unlucky in love. in the interview this week i'll be taking all. lots of romance and talking about tips and dating from a dating agent, karen mooney, and registrar and celebrant cynthia green, who you may recognise from married at first sight uk. and for the great british debate this hour, i'm asking is the game already up for sir keir starmer? perhaps the shortest honeymoon ever? if there even was one? send me your thoughts, post your comments gbnews.com forward slash your say . but first, gbnews.com forward slash your say. but first, nigel gbnews.com forward slash your say . but first, nigel farage has say. but first, nigel farage has closed reform uk's annual conference and with the party still buoyant after winning five mps at the july's general election , and they have a rather election, and they have a rather ambitious aim, they say that they want to win the election in 2029 and fix broken britain. now

this comes ahead of the labour conference in liverpool, where the prime minister has arrived . the prime minister has arrived. but if it risks being overshadowed by the party's freebies scandal, sir keir starmer has announced that he and his ministerial colleagues will no longer accept donations for clothes. just clothes, by the way , as it shouldn't be the way, as it shouldn't be accepting any donations. but questions will be asked as to whether he should actually accept anything at all. and in the meantime, the optics don't look good because he's obviously cutting pensioners winter fuel, so that doesn't look good at all. and also vat on private schools, which ultimately will impact children. let's return to birmingham and speak to gb news tom harwood, who is there now . tom harwood, who is there now. he's still at reform uk's conference, but where is he? tom >> the conference? it's almost time for me to drive off to liverpool for the labour conference but just time to catch up with everyone @gbnews because this has been quite a conference. the people here have

been saying this is the moment reform uk comes of age. i suppose the proof will be in the pudding in those local election results that we're expecting in may. can the party professionalise enough? this conference has been a moment of constitutional reform for the reform party. it's gone from being a limited company controlled by one man, nigel farage, to being a political party controlled by its members. now, if a majority of members so choose, they could get rid of nigel farage as leader. they control the party. although i have to say, having spoken to, well, hundreds of delegates here at this conference, i don't think they'd be getting rid of nigel farage any time soon. he is still the man with the star power at this conference. some people say that is both reform uk's brightest point, but also potentially its biggest hindrance in that the star power of nigel farage does tend to overbear almost everything. is

this a cult of personality or a party that is professionalising? thatis party that is professionalising? that is bringing through new talent as well? that's another big challenge that the party has to face as it runs into the next set of elections. indeed, there are not just local elections in england. there are also the parliamentary elections in scotland and wales a couple of years down the line. those will be big challenges and big opportunities for this party as well. they're trying to professionalise they're starting to create local branches across the country and following what they have been calling a liberal democrat strategy. yes, it's strange to hear the likes of nigel farage praising the liberal democrats , but it's not liberal democrats, but it's not over policy. it's over how they run the party, how they deliver that year round engagement with local constituencies and trying to form what is more of a competent election fighting machine , focusing in on the machine, focusing in on the areas of greatest support, turning votes into seats in the

wildly efficient way that the liberal democrats achieved to at the last election, many hundreds of thousands of fewer people voted for the liberal democrats than voted for reform uk, but compared to reform's five mps, the liberal democrats won 72. can this party repeat that tnck? can this party repeat that trick? well, a lot of that will of course, rest on what the government does. how much lower can the labour party fall in office? i'm going to have to find that out in liverpool. so if you don't mind, i'm just going to, get up my taxi tannoy and say , taxi to liverpool . and say, taxi to liverpool. yeah. it doesn't it doesn't actually go, >> oh, thank you. tom harwood . >> oh, thank you. tom harwood. he's not going anywhere. is he? in an airborne spectacular 700 paratroopers from eight nato nafions paratroopers from eight nato nations have been commemorating the 80th anniversary of the

battle in arnhem. hundreds of allied soldiers parachuted into nazi occupied netherlands as part of a daring world war two offensive. and just under 2000 allied troops lost their lives with 7000 became prisoners and national reporter charlie peters is in ede in the netherlands and attended the ceremonies this afternoon. >> 700 airborne soldiers from eight different nato countries have dropped into ginkel heath. today, 80 years after the start of operation market garden to commemorate the forces who made the most daring military airborne operation in history . airborne operation in history. they arrived here to liberate the netherlands from nazi rule, but also to establish a bndgehead but also to establish a bridgehead into germany to advance onto berlin . now the advance onto berlin. now the second objective wasn't achieved, and some of the most gritty and determined fighting they could not hold the bridge in arnhem. it was a bridge too far. but they did manage to liberate the nazi rule in nijmegen and eindhoven further

south. now the us , uk and polish south. now the us, uk and polish airborne operation was the market. the garden was the ground operation coming up from normandy. those men had fought on d—day. think about all that you've done since the 6th of june. think about holidays. you've taken trips with your friends and family. now. in that time since the 6th of june in 1944, those men were fighting, fighting to get here for three desperate months to reach arnhem , desperate months to reach arnhem, to liberate and also to relieve their airborne forces who had made that daring launch into arnhem. well, it was a widespread and well attended commemoration here at ginkel heath, and earlier i spoke to brigadier mark berry, the commander of 16 air assault brigade, to ask why the parachute regiment keeps coming back to arnhem. >> the struggle that soldiers felt here on the ground, the very, very difficult conditions that they faced, epitomise what any one of us feel we could be called to face in the modern

era. and therefore we come here to commemorate the bravery of those who went before us, and to challenge ourselves to think about their bravery . and will we about their bravery. and will we be brave enough when our time comes? >> well , comes? >> well, brigadier berry jumped into ginkel heath alongside the chief of the general staff, the most senior soldier in the british army and also the commander, field army. the commander, field army. the commander of one division and the commanding officers of all four parachute regiment battalions. they were to here demonstrate their thanks to those airborne forces who fought at operation market garden. 80 years ago, it might have been a strategic failure. they didn't get into germany, but the echoes of the glory of the men who fought in that campaign were still heard here today, 80 years on. >> that was charlie peters earlier. fabulous report. but next in my interview, i'll be joined by two women who have people find love dating agent karen mooney and marriage celebrant

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good afternoon. this is coming up to 17 minutes after 5:00. you're with me. i'm nana akua. this is gb news. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. now are you looking for love? well, in this week's interview , well, in this week's interview, i'm joined by dating expert and dating agent karen moody. got into business after one too many friends had complained to her about difficulty in finding a partner and also, if you love married at first sight, i'm amazed. i'm so pleased to meet this woman, cynthia green. she's a celebrant . she's also here a celebrant. she's also here now. some of you may know her from the series . i know from from the series. i know from that i've been addicted to it. ladies, welcome , welcome. ladies, welcome, welcome. >> thank you very much for having us. >> i love married at first sight. i watch it because it sort of helps you with the psychology of relationships. so i watch it and i learn how

people treat each other. yeah. and i think , wow, gaslighting , and i think, wow, gaslighting, narcissism . it's just shocking. narcissism. it's just shocking. cynthia, talk to me about how you came to do that and what it's like doing the series. >> wow. >> wow. >> so i started off doing a show that not many people know about called the wedding house. so i did that in 2010, and that's where i married 46 couples over 25 days. >> it was mad. so i did that. >> it was mad. so i did that. >> then and then they just the production company just came back and said, do you fancy being involved with married at first sight? >> so i got involved in 2016 and i did. >> i think it was five seasons of it. >> oh, it's just amazing. >> oh, it's just amazing. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> i talk to people about your role in it because some people may not watch the series. i'm hooked. i'm addicted, but others may not know. >> right. >> right. >> so my role was as registrar. so i married all the couples , so i married all the couples, which was brilliant because i had them up close , and i also

had them up close, and i also helped with the consultancy on the wedding side and yeah, an expert as well. i did all three. >> it was great, wasn't it ? and >> it was great, wasn't it? and when you married them , if you when you married them, if you could, you know, when you see the couples is there a particular couple that you knew, you looked at them and thought, these guys are just perfect for each other? yes, yes. they're very michelle. >> and doing the very last couple that i married on married at first sight. >> perfect . i just knew. >> perfect. i just knew. >> perfect. i just knew. >> and are they still together? yes. >> i'm really happy. >> i'm really happy. >> i'm really happy. >> i wish i had a picture of them because sometimes they got children. >> now they've got babies. >> now they've got babies. >> i remember reading about. yes. >> yeah, they're so happy and i'm happy when they're happy and when the obviously when it works, because that's what want. >> but it hardly ever works, doesit >> but it hardly ever works, does it ? oddly, no. now, karen, does it? oddly, no. now, karen, you talk to me about what you do and what, what your speciality is. >> well , i is. >> well, i started sarah in 36 years ago, 36 years. two days ago, on the 19th of september, 1988. and we introduced people

for long term relationships, which had thousands of success stories, loads and loads of weddings. and we had our first baby, our first babies baby, actually. oh, wow. aged 33, 34. and she had her first, her baby last june. >> so. >> so. >> so. >> so you're a matchmaker then? >> so you're a matchmaker then? >> we're a matchmaker. yes, yes, yes. >> and what? so. so talk to me about. so, do you have an agency or. >> yes or.- >> yes . or. >> yes . my agency or. >> yes. my agency is or. >> yes . my agency is called >> yes. my agency is called sarah and we've got offices in windsor and pall mall and people come along to see us. they're all financially secure. they're all financially secure. they're all ultimately looking for a partner. it doesn't have to be marriage. the busy age groups for us are 50s, 60s and 70s. we do have younger people, obviously, but the really busy age groups for us, and they're interviewed . we supply three interviewed. we supply three forms of id, and then if we think we can help them, we'll make a selection of them to sign a confidentiality contract, then make a selection of profiles. we think are suitable for them. they select who they want to meet and then we work with them

to meet those people. and hopefully find true love. wow. >> you see, now there are a lot of people probably interested in that sort of service because obviously if you're quite a pubuc obviously if you're quite a public figure, you can't go onune public figure, you can't go online and do the dating. exactly. there'll be somebody who wants to kill me or pretend i like her. >> that's right . >> that's right. >> that's right. >> and recently we've run the best bespoke matchmaking agency for the second year running, have you? yes. and it was only the award, only came out a couple of years ago. so that's really good. >> that is very, very good, isn't it? so what would you say isn't it? so what would you say is the right sort of when you see what do you think when you see what do you think when you see the couples, what do you look for when you are matchmaking them ? matchmaking them? >> oh gosh, lots of things. >> oh gosh, lots of things. >> you just get a gut feeling as well. but we're going to background, we're going to sort of things they want out of life. similar types tend to get on, you don't have to have necessarily similar interests. sometimes it's quite nice to have a different interest, isn't it? you know, but you just get a feeling my staff are fantastic and they, they just know how to match make, if that makes sense.

yeah. >> and cynthia , where do you >> and cynthia, where do you think people go wrong with this dating thing? where do you think in your view? i mean, i'm presuming you're happily married . presuming you're happily married. >> well, i'm getting married. you're getting married? >> yes. >> yes. >> in japan next year. >> in japan next year. >> exciting. >> exciting. >> i'm really excited. >> i'm really excited. >> really excited. i only met him 18 months ago. >> really? the whirlwind romance . >> really? the whirlwind romance. >> really? the whirlwind romance. >> oh, can you say how you met him? >> we just met at a party. yes yeah. and i just kind of knew, you know , when, you know. you know, when, you know. >> right? >> right? >> yeah, that's what they say. >> yeah, that's what they say. >> and i just knew when you can laugh together and sit in silence and you just feel comfortable and calm with that person. and i looked for, well , person. and i looked for, well, for a long time. i mean, i'm 60 now, and i know she does, doesn't she? >> i said that you and i just >> i said that you and ijust thought, oh, will it ever happen for me? >> you know, i'm marrying. >> you know, i'm marrying. >> i've been marrying people for nearly 28 years. so, you know, i did wonder . did wonder. >> but yes, now it's happening. >> but yes, now it's happening. >> i'm excited . >> i'm excited. >> i'm excited. >> it's very exciting. and for you what do you think then with

regard to the worst sort of aspects of you know when you're putting people together, what do you try and avoid. what should people avoid especially in their profiles and things like that. politics. oh yeah. yeah that's not going to work. that's why i'm single. that's what it is. >> too much about politics and too much about you mustn't talk about your exes too much . i about your exes too much. i mean, we all have pasts, don't we? you know, but don't don't sort of talk immediately. if you go on a date about your ex and that can be really off putting, because you need to get over that person and you need to give the person you're meeting a chance to get to know you. so you just need to have an open conversation. don't interrogate somebody either. you know, sometimes if somebody's really nervous, this happens more with men than women, actually, if they're really quite nervous, they'll go into it a bit like a job interview. that's not a good idea, is it? >> the interrogate the woman a little bit, yes. >> do they? but we give guidance anyway. but most of our members don't really need guidance because they're all clever, sensible, professional retired

professional people. >> yeah i suppose the interrogation is important though. i'm probably the one that's interrogating. but then you get some, some men who just start talking about themselves for way too long. i mean i've had that where i've gone on a date and said do you want to know anything about me or are we going to just carry on talking about you? >> yeah, that's a no no, isn't it? that's a big turn off. >> it's terrible isn't it. yeah. like one, one guy i was on a date with, i had to say, what do you know about me? >> what did he say? >> what did he say? >> i said, i said, where was i born? he knew that one. so what's my favourite colour? he didn't know that? no. >> i suppose it could be forgiven for that, couldn't it? no. >> not really. i mean, you know, like within a few moments from with someone, i've been chatting. what's their favourite colour? what kind of music they like about their lives. what? what do you know about that person? you know, and you want to find out about someone. but if you spend all your time flapping your gums, talking about yourself, it's never going to happen. you know who you are. >> let's hope he's watching me as well . as well. >> oh well, never mind. you got

to get sometimes get the message across to people and perhaps you'll learn maybe for the next one. exactly. or perhaps he acts more interested in me than i might tell him more. >> you've got to keep an open mind for people as well, you know, yeah. as i said , you've know, yeah. as i said, you've got to get to know that person, keep an open mind. don't have an idealin keep an open mind. don't have an ideal in your mind, because you'll probably end up with not the person you thought you'd end up with, but somebody that's slightly different. >> exactly. >> exactly. >> yeah. for me, i think consistency is important. >> so the way it starts , i >> so the way it starts, i expect it to carry on the same. so, you know, the phone calls, you know, if they buy flowers well then carry on buying me flowers which he does by the way. >> so i wanted consistency because it can start great. >> and then kind of, you know, after a few months it wanes. >> yeah. but he didn't. >> yeah. but he didn't. >> that's very sensible . that's >> that's very sensible. that's very sensible of him if he wants to keep you. and i think a lot of men should know that. but also there's women as well. women need to not act too desperate when a man sort of. you've got to be a bit more. absolutely, absolutely. >> of course you have. yes,

definitely. and it's we find sometimes it's women who, they're desperate to replace somebody, to find somebody else. that's why we try to sort them , that's why we try to sort them, sort them out. at sara davison. we tried. if we think they're too desperate, we'll say, look, just go away for a little while and have a think. and relax. because if you if you're desperate, you breed desperation into your life and it's not good, so you have to be relaxed and open to meeting people. >> and i was going to ask you, with regard to , ages of people with regard to, ages of people that you matchmake because some people watching this, some of us are a lot older, some of us are are a lot older, some of us are a lot younger. but i know you mentioned that actually it's people in their 50s and 60s that you tend to work with. is that right? >> we work with younger people too, but the really busy age groups for us are 50s, 60s, 70s, and even into the 80s, you see. yeah. and that's and that's exactly. no. and i think covid has made people think about the future too. in fact, we had a lovely it's on our website , a lovely it's on our website, a lovely it's on our website, a lovely letter from one of our 78 year old members. and he, his

wife had passed away a few years ago, but three years ago, i think , and he wrote us an email think, and he wrote us an email saying how, you know, he was looking forward to meeting somebody who he could go on holidays with. and then he sent us a follow up email saying, i found her now. thank you so much, sir. our families have met. we're looking forward to spending lots of time together and sharing our five star holidays. they're both widows so they both can understand, you know, so it's just lovely. >> oh that's lovely. and cynthia, what's next for you? are you doing another series of married at first sight? >> well, i did, i was part of the love is blind. okay. so that was good. i don't know what's going to happen next. i'll carry on marrying people, you know, and making people happy. that's what i love to do. i can't imagine myself doing anything else. >> we like doing that, don't we? yeah. >> yeah, we do, we do. >> and you know, people say, oh, it's corny or, you know, you've married thousands and thousands. you must be bored or something. no. everybody's each couple's different to me . and yeah, i

different to me. and yeah, i love it. i love it . yeah. love it. i love it. yeah. >> well, we shall keep our eyes out for you, cynthia green and also you, karen mooney. karen, if people want to find out more about your dating agency, because i think there might be quite a few viewers who are thinking, oh, i'm quite looking for love, what do they need to go website sara hyphen eden.co.uk sara eden .co.uk. well, thank you very much. both for joining me. really good to forjoining me. really good to talk to you. thank you so much. >> lovely speaking with you. >> lovely speaking with you. >> nana thoughts and experiences. i'm sure our viewers will love this . lots of viewers will love this. lots of you have been getting in touch with your thoughts on lots of different topics. we've been discussing. let's have a look at what you've been saying at home. now, on the subject of whether the nhs is broken, gerald says the nhs is broken, gerald says the nhs is broken, gerald says the nhs needs one paper system, one purchase system, purchasing system and one computer system and that is just for starters. then get rid of all the dross and the antiquated management system. change the drunks and other troublemakers for the problems. charge the drunks and troublemakers for the problems

they cause most weekends, and take the money from their wages or benefits, whichever works. michael says the problem is, if you start paying for treatment, you're one step away from being privatised and some people won't be able to afford insurance and some won't get insurance because of previous injuries or illnesses. and the biggest problem is just way too many people to deal with, sylvia says. luckily, i'm a fit, nearly 70 year old. i'm on no meds and i haven't seen a gp in years. i recently went to my opticians for new specs and was referred to referred for contracts, contract, cataract surgery. i've actually read this one before as well. on the nhs, i got referred to spar medica within a week, had both eyes done separately within six weeks. a fabulous service i can't believe the difference it has made to my life . and on whether reform can life. and on whether reform can replace the tories , penny says replace the tories, penny says at the moment i don't think reform can replace the tories. they are a new party and it takes time for change and to change the way people vote. but

by the next election and the mess labour are making, they'll be a credible challenge for both tory and labour voters. and jenny says i voted to tory try to keep out the labour candidate. however, i would now vote reform, so i think that they do have a chance at the next general election. we'll keep all your thoughts coming. gbnews.com forward slash your. say you're with me. i'm nana akua. say you're with me. i'm nana akua . this is gb news when live akua. this is gb news when live on tv, online and on digital radio. still to come, we'll continue with the great british debate this varne i'm asking, is the game already up for sir keir starmer ? you'll hear the starmer? you'll hear the thoughts of my panel, but first, let's get your latest news with tatiana sanchez . tatiana sanchez. >> nana thank you. the top stories. the prime minister has arrived at the labour party conference. sir keir starmer said labour's conference would show how labour are fixing the foundations and rebuilding our country. arriving at the conference centre in liverpool a short time ago alongside his deputy angela rayner, the prime minister said it was labour's

biggest conference ever. >> the changes started varne and today we're going to set out and over the next coming days how we're fixing the foundations and rebuilding our country. so enjoy conference. very, very good to be here. >> meanwhile, today is day two of the reform conference in birmingham with party leader nigel farage giving his farewell address earlier this afternoon. last night, mr farage told supporters he believes reform can win the next general election, given the number of people that agree with their principles. he also explained what drove him to stand as clacton's mp once the election was called earlier this year. >> at almost every level we've been betrayed. and then i thought about what was happening on our streets and frankly, i thought to myself, britain is broken . and then i couldn't help broken. and then i couldn't help it. but if britain is broken, then logically britain needs

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have been? tuned in, where have you been? it's near the end of the show, but i forgive you. at least you're here now. i'm nana akua. we are live on tv , online and on we are live on tv, online and on digital radio. now it's time for the next great british debate this hour. and i'm asking . sir this hour. and i'm asking. sir keir starmer is a calamitous start for many. that's how they see it. is the game up already for him now, as an ipsos poll has revealed this week that he is britain's second worst prime minister after his first few months in downing street have been overshadowed by riots, winter fuel payments, backlash and freebie scandals, let alone the anger faced her. many parents, who are facing a rise in vat for the independent schools. his government approval rate is just 25%, down from 36% in july. of this year. so for the great british debate, i'm asking is, is the game already up for sir keir starmer? well, joining me to debate this, my panel joining me to debate this, my panel, political commentator lee harris and trade unionist andy twelves. andy twelves. is it over for keir starmer already.

>> no, no, not even remotely. is that right? i mean , you'd ask that right? i mean, you'd ask this question maybe after a few ministerial resignations, you know, maybe a backbench rebellion. there's been neither such thing, you know, to suggest the game is up. you know, there's been what, maybe less than a month of actual parliamentary sitting time. >> and look what he's done in it. >> and the game isn't even remotely you know what i mean? it's a silly question to ask, really, will you. >> well, hold on, because you may think that's a silly question, but have you seen the polling already? the numbers are falling. people are not supporting him. even his own party are now looking at him going, oh my god, what's happening here? well, i don't think. and it's been there are we've already read about the reports of a labour mps who are now getting very concerned . and now getting very concerned. and there is also still the matter of jazz as well. well there hasn't been dealt with. lee harris, it's been an absolute disaster right from the start. >> i mean, this is the man who lied about respecting the result of the brexit referendum, lied his way into the leadership, did he lie about respect? >> let sorry, sorry. let him finish. and then you can respect

the result. hold on. let let let let me finish please. >> and then we'll come out and campaign for another vote. so that's not respecting the result. he lied his way into the leadership and he lied his way into number 10. and it's been it has been an absolute disaster since he's been there. i mean, well, in what way did he lie himself? >> lie into number 10. what is the lie that he's told you that you feel he's lied about? >> give me one of them. >> give me one of them. >> because you can't say that and then not come up with a lie. >> i did have this all in my head before i started. bring it out. oh, he has lied his way into number 10. >> in what way? i mean, you know, it's all very sorry. i'm asking the questions, okay? >> he he wasn't clear with the pubuc >> he he wasn't clear with the public about his tax, about the taxes . and he said that he taxes. and he said that he wasn't going to tax working people. and he kind of made out it was all going to be fluffy and wonderful. and then when he got elected. yeah yeah. but then when he won the election , he, it when he won the election, he, it all started falling apart quite quickly . quickly. >> working people. well i suppose. well, well hold on, i suppose. well, well hold on, i suppose you could say that some people might see him as lying because the, the, the pensioners winter fuel allowance, for example, was not in the

manifesto tax. hang on. sorry. let me finish. i'm not talking about taxes. i'm talking about lying. so you could say about being economical with the truth is a form of almost lying. i could i could accept that. well, no, he didn't explicitly in the manifesto or any of his debates, he didn't go or explicitly not going to take away the winter fuel payment. >> but if he said that and then went and did it, that would be a lie. but it could be that. >> my point is, it could be seen as a lying by omission. but you could if you're going to do that immediately, then you don't do it and you do it immediately after you've been elected. people might see that as a lie. >> anything that you haven't previously commented on, but that's the principle would be going, oh, well, he's lied about it. >> well, that's drastic, isn't it? and they must have planned that. so that's not something like if you're going to take away the winter fuel allowance from pensioners, it's not something that you. oh let's just do that now on the, on the hop. he's only been for in what is it ten weeks now something so let's see that as an omission. >> an omission of governments isn't it. omission of information can be seen as being economical with the truth , which economical with the truth, which can be seen as a lie. it can be seen as that. i wouldn't see it as that. no no. >> massively disingenuous. you know, this is a bloke he's given civil service jobs to his mates

when he got in. >> well, they all do that though don't they. cashed in. >> not to the extent that starmer has done it. apparently there is an investigation now going on there. is that about the people that he's appointed? he's cashed in 100 grand's worth of gifts . he's given lord alli of gifts. he's given lord alli a security pass, which i understand now has been rescinded. but that was, you know, very convenient after 100 grand and he's breached parliamentary rules . then we can parliamentary rules. then we can go on to the winter fuel allowance, which we've already been discussing. i do not understand the logic behind that decision. it just doesn't make any sense. he's going to spend 11.6 billion on overseas climate aid. just spend 1.4 billion less and give it to pensioners . it and give it to pensioners. it makes no sense. i mean, that's he's heartless. >> those are all i'm sure very, very good points in your mind. but the question is it. they're very good points anyway for keir starmer even remotely you know, he's got i think council elections next year, the next set of parliamentary elections are in two years. you know, mayoral elections are in four years. and then a general in five. this is you know, he's got a long, long time. there have been no ministerial resignations. there have been no backbench rebellions to go. is it up for starmer? no. it is not

up. >> well that's because that's because they're scared. after he took the whip from the seven mps who went against his two child. hang on. if they're scared. sorry. i'm speaking. sorry. i'm speaking sorry. no no no no no, i'm interrupting your interruption. no well well, well, well, it's my show, so i'll speak. >> you pay me to be here. so it's our show. >> well, well, no, it's not really our show. no. do you see the wording on there? what does that say that says look behind you. look over there. look. look behind me, behind me. can you see the wording there? what does that say. well that's not on screen. >> that's to the right. what do you see that nana akua. thank you. just to remind you, we are contributing here. >> well you are you are contributing. but when i'm talking, are you interrupted me? >> sorry. >> sorry. >> no, no, no, i'm talking. so when you interrupt me when i've finished talking, then you can speak. you did interrupt me. but i'm entitled to interrupt you. are i am. are you? yes, i am. >> do you that's how >> do you think that's how debates work? you are moderating? >> well, at least yes, i am moderating. thank goodness for that. he's worked it out. well done. right. so let's let's get back to the point, though. let's get back to the point that we're making here. and the point is with regard to keir starmer, some people will look at this and think, well, so far it's only been ten weeks. he hasn't done particularly well. and a lot of people saying that his polling has fallen by at least ten points and people are not really warming his policies,

really warming to his policies, in particular winter fuel, in particular the winter fuel, which is a big one. okay. he admitted that in his manifesto, which he should have said if he was going to do it and he probably wouldn't have got as far as he had and the labour party's own research showed that up to 4000 people might die if the tories went along with that policy. so do you not think that this is if the optics will look incredibly bad? lots of pensions start dying because of cold over the winter . the winter. >> i am sure that, you know, the opfics >> i am sure that, you know, the optics would obviously be bad if pensioners are dying because of a government decision, but to say that it's up for keir starmer is not even remotely true. as i said, there's been no ministerial resignation. well i'm asking the question. >> i'm not saying it is. i'm asking you. >> well, you're saying is it up for him? yeah. no, it's not up. not even remotely. >> well, do you think he will survive the five year term? >> i mean, five years is a long time, but i certainly don't. do you think he will fuel? i don't think the winter fuel allowance is going to be the thing that unseats him. i mean, five years is a long time, but i don't think this is going to be the issue that unseats him. >> what do you think? do you think that the winter fuel allowance will be the issue that unseats keir starmer? >> i strongly believe that people will not forget. they genuinely won't. i don't think i

think you're very right to say that the only thing that keir starmer has on his side at the moment is the time and the majority. that's it. he hasn't got anything else. everything else has genuinely been an unmitigated disaster. i can't think of one thing that he's done that has been worthwhile or has created any good in our country at all. i know he hasn't had long, but it has been an absolute shambles. i mean, just look at the little things that just the niggly little things that wind me up, like the transparency issue he stood in front of. this is what people will not forget. we're a we're a tolerant bunch of people in this country. but one thing that we cannot stand is hypocrisy. and all i have got in my head is starmer on his high horse, talking about clearing up politics and getting rid of cronyism. the first thing that happens when he's in office is he's got his snout in the trough. more than anyone else. i mean, it's insane. >> look . and all it is, is even >> look. and all it is, is even sitting on a, on a, on a neutral space where i don't really support any of the parties at all. and looking at it, it

almost looks indefensible. are you seriously saying, looking at this £150,000 worth of freebies and all the stuff there, that this is a good start for keir starmer? >> well, i don't think it's a i don't think it's a good start. it's a bad start isn't it? fundamentally, this kind of thing happens. lots of people get gifts. you know, he's he was the leader of the opposition that was going to be the prime minister. obviously people will want to donate to him. you know, you know, in principle, you know, what's going to bring him down is probably the smashing the gangs. >> i mean, he just he just literally appointed martin hewitt. >> well, he didn't appoint the, you know, the sorry under his watch. >> martin hewitt has been appointed as the new head of border command. and the first thing he said was, yeah, mate, you smashed the gangs. it's not going to work. you need a deterrent. guess what? like rwanda? yeah like the guy. the guy that's one of his flagship policies. and by the way, that is what the british public care about the most at the moment in terms of immigration, is right up there in terms of what people care about. he's going to fail. he's not going to smash the gang . he's not going to smash the gang. >> that's going to be the final word. hannah wilde seconds. >> there was a cross—partisan kind of agreement that rwanda

was a mess. even the prime minister was implementing it, called it a gimmick. you know , called it a gimmick. you know, rwanda, it was for 200 people. it was too expensive. and it really didn't work. it was never this new keir starmer government. he's he's got a new head of border security. what is it? border command i think it's called. >> you don't even know what it's called. >> oh no i don't i'm not starmer's team. i'm not in the home office but he's got a new border chief. let's call him that. and there's going to be a new plan to smash the gangs and release the boats coming across. it's not going to happen. >> okay? okay. >> okay? okay. >> 14 years of tories couldn't manage it. it's not going to happen. >> nobody's commending the tories on their their term in office because it was not good. but let's be honest here keir starmer has made a mess of this from the very beginning. and to be honest, i will agree to disagree. he has made a mess of it and i think even those who support the labour party are saying the same thing. and his poll rating has plummeted. but coming up, my quick fire quiz, i test the panel on some of the stories that caught their eye this week. this is

gb news. 49 minutes after 5:00. this is gb news. we're live on tv, onune gb news. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua and it's time now for our quick fire quiz. that is part of the show where i test my panel on some of the other stories hitting the headlines right now. joining me , political right now. joining me, political commentator lee harris. your buzzer please. lee and trade unionist andy twelves. your buzzer. unionist andy twelves. your buzzer . please write and unionist andy twelves. your buzzer. please write and please play buzzer. please write and please play along at home. write. question one. sir keir starmer has received substantially more freebies than any other mp since becoming a labour leader. but how does this how does his goodie bag total so far? is it a 107,000? is it b 152,000 or is it c 94,000? hang on, i didn't finish that . oh so we'll have to finish that. oh so we'll have to let andy buzz in. >> yes i think it's a 107,000. >> and then lee what's your answer. it is a 107,000. i think you're both wrong . actually it you're both wrong. actually it is 107,000 initially. yes. i'm gonna have to give the point to

andy. all right . one nil to andy. >> although don't push the button till you finished. yeah, you got it right. >> okay. sorry. well done. andy's learning. he's learning now. you see, he's realised if you interrupt and you won the point, you see, because he interrupted. outrageous. there you go. he's learning . he's you go. he's learning. he's learning. right. okay. true or false? hundreds of prisoners that were freed early in england and wales were not fitted with electronic tags. andy twelve's true. lee harris. i'll go false. you're saying it's false? the answer is, in fact, true . yes. answer is, in fact, true. yes. many of the prisoners who were released, i know it's shocking that it's not a stitch up, sadly, but you need to. yeah, it's. >> to be honest, i didn't know the answer to that one, but. >> but it's true or false. so you've got 50 over 50. but it's absolutely absurd, right? they're coming out of prison. >> i thought it was insane. >> i thought it was insane. >> released early by our friends and then re—arrested and put back in again. >> yeah, it would have been released anyway. no, no, no. in fact, i think the real story here is administration. they should have deported the 10,000 foreign nationals. >> no, they were released slightly earlier, let's be honest. so it was brought up to

40% of the sentence. so some of them were released earlier than they would have been. and so that's the point here. and it wasn't really i don't think it wasn't really i don't think it was a good plan. what do you think at home. right. next up, closest answer wins. it's the 80th anniversary of the battle of arnhem, which was the turning point in the second world war. but how many brave allied troops made the jump from the military aircraft into the occupied netherlands? lee harris 700 712, 300, 300. i thought it was only 12, wasn't it? no, it's 1900. i thought it was. >> so i was listening to the show. >> the answer wins. so that would be. there you go. well done. i've got a point. he got a point at last. right brilliant. okay, this is an open question. speaking to the reform uk conference, what did ashfield mp lee anderson rip up on stage? lee anderson rip up on stage? lee harris tv licence tv licence it was a request for payment for a tv licence. >> that's what i meant. >> that's what i meant. >> well, we've got the bbc licence letter , so. licence letter, so. >> well, technically i said bbc

licence. i was just missing the last word . last word. >> i'm going to give it to you, lee harris. so it's tied because the last one will be neck and neck. and also andy did interrupt earlier and you know he's on the naughty step. he should have a point deducted for that. i don't know what a grudge match. no i don't i don't actually but yeah he ripped up the letter to pay for the tv licence which he's not prepared to pay. but i suppose if you don't watch the bbc, if you don't watch the bbc, if you don't watch the bbc, if you don't watch live tv as well, i think then you don't necessarily have to pay it. >> do you have to say very quickly? >> yeah. go on. >> i found out last night i genuinely didn't know this. if i want to watch gb news via youtube, say, in my office. so i cancel my tv licence and i wasn't watching any live tv, but i watch, i want to watch gb news say in my office straight from youtube. that is against the law. >> i cannot without a tv licence . >> i cannot without a tv licence. >> i cannot without a tv licence. >> without a tv licence, i didn't realise that. so americans they can watch gb news all they like doesn't matter but we will get genuinely put in prison if we don't pay the fines. >> absolutely outrageous. i don't know what the answer is because we need, i think we do need some sort of training

centre that the bbc could be, but but nobody likes propaganda and i feel sometimes it sort of slips into that final question. they are tied multiple choice, which tory leadership hopeful said that mass immigration and woke culture have put england's national identity at risk . was national identity at risk. was it a oh, you made me up? no which one was it? hey, kemi badenoch b robert jenrick or c james cleverly. yeah. lee harris robert jenrick . who did you robert jenrick. who did you think it was? it was robert jenrick. robert jenrick. all right, i'm going to give you a half point and a half point because i did trick you on that. you did for two and a half. it is a complete tie here. i've pulled it back. yes. the answer was indeed robert jenrick. well, listen, it's been a busy one. it's been a pleasure as ever. what were your thoughts then? finally, as we close the show, whether keir starmer is at risk, do you think he's at risk? >> i think he's safe because of the time that he's got. but i think he is severely wounded , think he is severely wounded, severely wounded, reputation and i think he is safe. >> and i'm looking forward to his conference speech on tuesday . right. >> well, we shall see what happens with that. let's hope

that he's wearing a suit that he paid for and glasses as well. do you know what i mean? well, listen, in today's show, i've been asking, should politicians been asking, should politicians be allowed to accept gifts? and according to our twitter poll , according to our twitter poll, 94.8% of you said no, no, they shouldn't. and just 5.2% of you said yes. well, there you have it. it's almost unanimous. they shouldn't be accepting gifts of any kind , not just clothing. any kind, not just clothing. i've got to say a huge thank you to my panel, political commentator lee harris. lee harris, thank you very much for joining me. pleasure. thank you. lovely to see you. trade unionist andy twelves and it was lovely to talk to you. i'm glad we cleared things up. and thank you to you at home for your company. coming up next, it's the saturday five. i'll be back tomorrow. same time, same place, 3:00. be there, be square. but next i'll leave you with the . weather. >> it looks like things are heating up. boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news

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best of the sunshine is certainly going to be for the highlands. lewis and harris and argyll and bute. a few sunny spells also developing as we head throughout the day for northern ireland. once the fog begins to clear its way off. but you'll see those showery outbreaks of rain spreading across much of wales central and southern areas of england , and southern areas of england, and they will continue right throughout the day. again, there is a rain warning in force so we could see further spray on roads, surface water issues. so it certainly is worth taking care and keeping up to date with the forecast. the graphics here not to be taken too literally, but it just gives an indication that that western side really could see some quite heavy pulses of rain, quite humid in amongst all of this as well, temperatures topping up around 20 to 21 c, 20 even possible across the sunnier spots of northwest scotland. that rain will linger as we head throughout sunday evening, stalling a bit across wales and the midlands before it gradually wants to shift its way eastwards as we head throughout the day on monday. but things generally staying unsettled into the new working week and it's also looking to turn cooler for all of us. enjoy the rest of your weekend by by that warm feeling

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