gb news. >> hi there, it's steven allen standing in for leo kearse and coming up on saturday night showdown as keir starmer freebie row continues to rumble on. we'll be asking if you want to be pm. and do you have to accept that you cannot be accepting free stuff left, right and centre? they're at it again. levy, lineker and airmiles emma thompson are lecturing us about saving the planet when their own carbon footprint is the size of heathrow. with the expansion and in clown world, we'll be looking at the fake snake prank that's entertaining golfers around the planet. this is your saturday night showdown .

night showdown. so discussing all the topics tonight, my brilliant panel. joining me tonight we have andrew eborn and diane spencer. look at them. they're ready to go over there. first let's get your latest news headlines from tatiana sanchez . tatiana sanchez. >> steven alan thank you very much. the top stories this evening. sir keir starmer says labour's conference would show how labour are fixing the foundations and rebuilding our country. he's intent on shifting attention away from rows over donations and internal number 10 infighting. arriving at the conference centre in liverpool earlier on, alongside his deputy angela rayner, the prime minister said it was labour's biggest conference ever change is starting and today we're going to set out and over the

next coming days how we're fixing the foundations and rebuilding our country. >> so enjoy. conference very , >> so enjoy. conference very, very good to be here. >> and today was day two of the reform conference in birmingham with party leader nigel farage giving his farewell address earlier this afternoon. last night, mr farage told supporters he believes reform can win the next general election, given the number of people that agree with their principles. he also explained what drove him to stand as clacton's mp once the election was called earlier. this year. >> at almost every level we've been betrayed. and then i garden in the battle of arnhem celeb betrayed. the netherlands, , , garden in the battle of arnhem celeb betrayed. and netherlands, , , garden in the battle of arnhem celeb betrayed. and then�*rlands, , , garden in the battle of arnhem thought about what was happening celeb betrayed. and then lands, , , been betrayed. and then i thought about what was happening on our streets and frankly, i on our streets and frankly, i thought to myself , britain is thought to myself , britain is thought to myself, britain is thought to myself, britain is broken . and then i couldn't help broken . and then i couldn't help broken. and then i couldn't help it. but if britain is broken, broken. and then i couldn't help it. but if britain is broken, then logically britain needs then logically britain needs reform now. >> this year marks the 80th reform now. >> this year marks the 80th anniversary of operation market anniversary of operation market garden in the battle of arnhem garden in the battle of arnhem

celebrations in the celebrations in the netherlands. this weekend will commemorate 80 years since 1900. allied troops parachuted into the then occupied country with the aim of recapturing the bridges of arnhem. throughout the day to day, the contemporary equivalents of those men recreated the drop at ginkel heath in ida , jumping from an heath in ida, jumping from an aircraft into the very same place our troops would have landed eight decades ago. earlier brigadier mark berry told gb news how it felt to be there on the ground today. >> i think the struggle that soldiers felt here on the ground, the very, very difficult conditions that they faced epitomise what any one of us feel we could be called to face in the modern era. and therefore

daniel for the challenge daniel dubois for the ibf world heavyweight boxing title at a sold out wembley stadium. the all—british fight will see joshua try to take that title from dubois in an attempt to join the likes of muhammad ali, lennox lewis and evander holyfield by becoming a three time world heavyweight champion. things remained relatively calm at the weigh in yesterday, although both fighters have said they will do whatever it takes to win. and those are the latest gb news headlines for now. i'm tatiana sanchez, more from me in an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . gbnews.com forward slash alerts. >> to saturday night showdown. this week, we've been told sir keir starmer did nothing wrong in accepting freebies, and he promises to never do it again.

which is it? if it was perfectly fine , then you'd stick by your fine, then you'd stick by your guns. or if you're promising to never do something again, then you're admitting that you knew it shouldn't have been done in the first place. now, the pm has insisted that he followed the rules when it came to receiving thousands of pounds worth of clothes, glasses and football boxes. the problem is he made such a big deal about being the guy who was standing up against sleaze and corruption. he couldn't afford to even give the slightest hint that he might be near something as dodgy as letting another man dress your wife. i mean, that does that sounds bad. does it? it would have sounded worse if i said undressing. it's not hard to find clips online of starmer reading some rules to boris johnson about how getting free wallpaper looks a bit off. and okay, if that's your angle, then you make sure you can't be accused of anything near the same. you can't run the risk of being accused of hypocrisy. it's not even a left v right thing as well. before you get too upset because back when george osborne was trying to bring in a pasty tax, oh, we enjoyed pointing out that he was so rich he'd be having caviar for lunch. so if

you're telling oaps that they have to wear an extra jumper this winter, don't make it seem more unfair that they have to buy their own jumpers. when you don't. now, when there's a story like this, it's not just about the letter of the law or the specific terms of the rules. it's about passing the sniff test. do keir's clothes pass the sniff test? not the same sniff test that we do. the can i get another week out of these pants? politically, we're asking is something fishy? okay, that is the same test as we've just been talking about. but you know what i mean. and the sniff test is subjective. so what's the only way to pass? that is to not make any smells at all. if you're the anti—sleaze guy, don't take anything for free whatsoever. and i don't know how many items of clothing £16,000 bought starmer for me in the places where i clearly shop, that would be nearly 16,000 items of clothing for him, probably fewer, but someone should have done the maths and had the sense to tell him it's not worth it. the amount of bad press that this has caused has cost far more. surely so which is it? keir is greedy, willing to work for in—store vouchers or just

politically incompetent? none of the above are the kind of qualities you want in a nation's prime minister so to get to the bottom of this, i'm joined tonight by my illustrious panel. the lawyer, i believe the lawyer ? the lawyer, i believe the lawyer? the lawyer, i believe the lawyer? the lawyer. i'm nervous. andrew, i think i should make you nervous. i think it's wonderful. i can't pick on you because you're a lawyer. you might pick on me and pick on me. >> i need another house to do. pick on me. you love me. oh. >> meanwhile, comedian and famous fudge maker diane spencen famous fudge maker diane spencer. i can't pick on her ehhen spencer. i can't pick on her either. otherwise she might cut off my fudge supply. a tricky one, too. so, if the if you're the pm is the rule, simply you don't take freebies. >> it's very simple that he's broken the rules and the biggest rule he's broken is hypocrisy. and you're absolutely right when you remember that boris johnson was there and they had carrie doesn't live here anymore, but she picked this amazing wallpaper and the headlines would scream out interior resigns and glorious times like this. well this is now the rocky horror show because the amount

of money was spent on on the wonderful lady starmer and her clothes is actually what the rules say is it's to okay get these gifts, but you have to report it within a certain time. and he failed to do that. so it's the optics which are wrong and the reason he has these thousands of pounds spent on glasses is so he can see the whole hypocrisy. >> oh, but now, to push back a little, i suppose as a former glasses wearer myself, the risk is if you're out there on the trail, you know, pressing the flesh, kissing babies and stuff, one of those babies smacks your glasses, you break your glasses, you need spares. >> all very convincing. >> all very convincing. >> he had to buy lots of spares. glasses he might have. depends what these babies do. he might get through a lot of suits, so he needed a lot of clothes. >> yeah, but i do think that the biggest crime here is not the hypocrisy. it's the crime to fashion. i mean, you can tell that this was just purely monetary because no designer ever wants keir starmer wearing their clothes. the man looks like the photocopier ran out of ink. there is no way that anybody in their right mind in the fashion world actually wants

sir keir to wear their clobber, not even mrs. keir. i know that she wants to go in. hey, you put angela rayner down. >> come on, come on down. >> isn't that glorious? i mean, this is the outfit. this is the look that keir starmer. this is the jolly green giant. you can tell thousands of pounds have been spent on this. and i think we should start that campaign. i don't think he's had nearly enough. he should spread out the money that he gave to lady starmer and give a little bit to angela. she deserves it. >> but now they've all said that they won't be taking free clothes. you condemn someone to stay in that look. surely now you should do a reverse ferret. and i don't know, i think i think credit where credit is due. >> no, we want our politicians to look like politicians so they can be represented around the world on the appropriate sort of level. it's been going on forever. this is what the rules say. the thing the problem is, is it mustn't be sort of. there's certain procedures you have to follow. there's a time limit within which you have to do it, and it's all about the opfics do it, and it's all about the optics and it's all about this stuff. you can talk about fun things, but several times what was it, £8,750 for a box at arsenal? i think that's what they start at these corporate boxes, because it's not safe for

him to go otherwise. well look, he could afford it. you know, doing that is not good for the optics. you turn on that sort of basis. what i don't get is i always say history repeats itself because we don't learn the lessons from history. and throughout history people have said, well, hang about if i just do this, i have this photo with that person, or i say this, it will won't come out again. the reality is, everything you say, everything you do will come back to bite you. so he should have known his advisers, the sultans of spin should have told him originally. >> yeah, i mean, this is politically naive. surely, isn't it ? not that they necessarily it? not that they necessarily knew there'd be a winter fuel allowance cut coming, but anything they had to do was going to be compared to how much money they'd just been given. >> i mean, it was ridiculous that they did actually, at the same time say , sorry, you're not same time say, sorry, you're not going to have the ability to heat your homes. well, you should have taken up that money, you know. oh, it's all the tories fault. they didn't tell you that you were allowed some of this winter fuel allowance. they can't do that. and then at the exact same time, they're calling it wardrobe gate. >> that is a terrible one, isn't it. >> i know. wardrobe gate.

>> i know. wardrobe gate. >> rocky horror show is better. >> rocky horror show is better. >> come on. much better. come on. i'll get my royalties. >> it's got to be good. it's a wardrobe. >> but you can't do it at the same time. >> you can't tell. like all the elderly people. like you said, put on another jumper when this quy's put on another jumper when this guy's got truckloads of jumpers turning up at his house just for free. >> it is sickening, actually. and as you're talking about that, when people do have the choice between heating or eating this christmas and you're turning around, you slash, you take away the winter fuel allowance from certain pensioners. it's got to be wrong. and i go back to what i was saying beforehand. he must have known that it was going to come out at some stage. it's much better that he declared it. it wasn't until the 17th of september, just a few days ago, that this all came out and all of a sudden he said, oh, i've been found out and therefore i'll stop doing it should the rules get changed, though, because we're all saying, oh, it's the optics rather than the rules. >> well, let's get the rules that fit the optics. let's put the rule in place that if someone offers you a couple of for grand some clothes, no, buy your own kit. >> i'll tell you what the rules say. it says the gifts should be of a nominal value. well, several thousand pounds. probably isn't nominal. it must

be given for an appropriate reason. and it must be a sort of one off, not a regular thing. and obviously they mustn't do it for a particular favour. so if the extraordinary thing is on, this is it's a fail. >> fail. >> fail. >> lord ali, a lovely chap, lord ali really. but but he's the former asos chairman. he's clearly weren't from asos for several thousand pounds, but the reality was exactly that. so you've got to turn around. why are people giving these gifts? that's the first thing you have to ask if they're giving. it is supposed to be without fear or favour. clearly you're expecting something in return , aren't you? something in return, aren't you? >> that is the thing, even right? this is the thing. even if andrew is making a false point, even if you're making bear with, bear with. if he's wrong, it sounds good. that's the problem. so even if you could prove he could say, look, there's never been a link between any of the things bought and any favours. the problem is, it's the stink that i talk about in the sniff test. it is. >> it is the sniff test. >> it is the sniff test. >> but like you said that it would have to be an appropriate gift. yes. so in terms of clothing, it would make sense if sir keir starmer was like going to a building site and they gave him a gift of this is your official hard hat. that would make sense. yeah. but like, it

kind of. >> do you think they own their own hard hats when they turn up? because whenever there's a flood, some. the prime minister has to turn up with a mop. do you think they have to buy their own mops? >> he should. i mean, he should. they can give him a mop. yeah, right. and then what he should do is he should do what the americans do because, you know, they're always like, selling and auctioning off any pen that signs something into law. yes keir starmer, if he wants to raise extra money, whatever mop he uses to clean up the next mess, he should label it. this mop was used by the prime minister. >> you say that you say that when lady thatcher they had a big auction, i went along to it and all her clothes were sort of sold there and things like that. so you're absolutely right. as keir starmer, we could do that at christie's. we could do that. >> a side question that you might want to ask is how often do you wear that blue dress? >> well, all the time. every thursday night. you should see me in that blue dress. i look sensational. >> you're the kind of. you're the kind of lady that is for turning, aren't you? >> i'll go back to angela's stuff. i'll tell you that. me? i could be the jolly green giant on that basis, i think it's fantastic. no, i think that's

the reality. i go back to what i was saying beforehand. that mustn't be. the optics on this are appalling. it's about the hypocrisy and calling boris out, standing at the despatch box and calling out wallpaper. well here we are. >> well, that's the other option that we've not talked about. the other option is you just never pick on anyone for not sticking to the rules or being a bit sleazy and just think, you know what? don't enter politics. >> you've got to pick on people. >> you've got to pick on people. >> no, listen, let me finish the point, andrew. he's a lawyer. this guy. because then if you're never the anti—sleaze guy and someone comes along, do you want an arsenal box? yes, i do, mate. of course you do. >> of course you all help yourself. this is why i became pm. now you've got to work on that sort of basis. but you're right. the optics are wrong. and if you change the rules for everybody, but also look at other countries in america, i think they get 50 grand or whatever it is as an allowance for their clothes, which is great. so donald has several red ties to match his eyes. so it was so it works on that sort of basis. and that's what i do. i go back to my point. you want our politicians to look great, and if you're working on that basis, i think that no, it's important around the world, they're representing the united

kingdom. the optics on this, however, are wrong. it should have been done in accordance with the rules. >> but who funds that then? so if they get 50 grand, it can't come from taxpayers because then the story would be you're cutting winter fuel allowance and we're buying you 50 grand's worth. >> and also who decides what looks great? because i'm sorry, but you have been taking pot shots at angela's green suit. at least i said it was lovely. made a statement. at least she did something that was new. i mean, she's got her very own unique style . style. >> unique? there's a reason it's unique, though, diane. you do you do know that. do you like it? can i ask you, do you like it? >> then it's for not me, but it's her. >> like she has it for everybody. we should do a poll. anybody would like to wear this, i'll buy it for them. anybody who wants to do that, i'll buy it for them now. i will throw in thatcher's blue dress as i thought we would do. 30s. her time's almost up. but the reality is that though i don't think it's a particularly good look, it's not one for me. but if she wants it, who cares? work on that sort of basis. she probably paid for it for herself. i certainly was sponsored tonight. so that's all very good and very grateful to my sponsors. so keep it all going. no but listen, we'd

better crack on. >> speaking of sponsors and all that coming up, we will assess the week's winners and losers. this week. we'll be looking at ed davey's latest attempts to stay relevant, further developments in the battle between elon musk and brazil. an air emma thompson is telling us

come back to saturday night showdown with me stephen allen for tonight. and now it's time to go through the winners and losers of the week. the liberal democrats guess, which had their annual conference this week to no fanfare whatsoever. that didn't stop ed davey trying hard to bring a bit of attention to himself. some me leave me, let me go and a be around. >> you got no place to go to polly middlehurst .

polly middlehurst. >> now, if you're watching that at home, you saw what happened. if you're listening on radio, that was not an animal being abused in any way. that was ed davey's singing. now, whilst you could salute lib dem campaign for making ed davey seem funny, a feat previously seemingly impossible, but has he gone a bit too far at this point? >> trying to justify i love it, he's got van gogh's ear for music, hasn't he? i think it's quite know. he is brilliant. it was p.t. barnum who used to say, if you want to draw a crowd, start a fight. well, everybody's mocking him and so on and so forth . that's what he wants. he forth. that's what he wants. he wants the media exposure. and to their credit, they got 72 seats. they only got 12.2% of the vote. i think it was. they got 72 seats. what happens the reform party , this is just party, this is just coincidental. i'm not the reform party. the reform party got 14.2%, 2% more and they got five seats. so he should be celebrating. he should be all these stunts and it works on that sort of basis. >> but to be fair, like you

said, that p.t. barnum said start a fight . start a fight. >> now, to be fair, i would pay money to see that man in the ring with someone, but i'm not sure i would like to see him like, yeah, there's got to be a couple of journalists we could get from this place. i think nana would kill him. i think she would. she'd kill him. she does gymnastics. yeah, she'd be intense. i think , i mean, we intense. i think, i mean, we could pick people out. i think eamonn holmes now, i don't. i wouldn't want to see eamonn get hurt. i'd be worried that ed davey would get ed davey could take him. i'd be worried about that, that singing was quite incredible , i was reminded. do incredible, i was reminded. do you remember when britney spears did the vmas in two thousand and seven and she was plastered? she was , well, like she had more was, well, like she had more panache than what we just saw. >> i think you're right. well, look , i think we've got to be. look, i think we've got to be. >> he probably didn't realise the mic was on. he should have done it. he should have done a john redwood , bank of michael john redwood, bank of michael kill, the leader of the lib dems . kill, the leader of the lib dems. he should have mimed like, you know, like john redwood. he should. >> he should have brought on. he

should have turned around and say, please welcome to the stage theresa may. and she could have come on with dancing queen. he could have sung to that as well, and i would, i would have seen that fight. that would have been brilliant. we absolutely love it. >> theresa may's got the reach. >> theresa may's got the reach. >> she has got the reach. she's she's good. >> you know, i think she was, but she's very dangerous. remember she used to go little dancing crop seal crop fields. remember that was her. how naughty have you been. what's the naughtiest thing she did make the entire crop circle. >> the entire country think that auens >> the entire country think that aliens existed because, well, they do exist. >> what are you talking about? >> what are you talking about? >> you fell for it. it's a theresa may prank. i think you may be the only legacy she seems to have. >> i think that what i would like more from ed davey is i see the stunts, and they take up a lot of time with the stunts. you know, it's down the water slide or whatever, and i still don't quite know what he stands for. so i've thought of a stunt that he could do so that we get to actually hear about his ideas. i thought he could read out the manifesto whilst eating chillies that get steadily hotter on the scoville heat scale. so he starts off with a little bird's

eye chilli. maybe he ends up with a scotch bonnet, a scotch bonnetis with a scotch bonnet, a scotch bonnet is good. >> yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a euphemism, though, for a stunt. doesn't it? you wouldn't like that, but i love it. i'll tell you what i'd like to see. >> roar. that sounds terrible. i've just seen ed davey munching on a scotch bonnet for a stunt on a scotch bonnet for a stunt on a scotch bonnet for a stunt on a tuesday night. >> what? what? i love, what i love, no, what? i'd like to see more from ed davey actually is less. i think seeing less of ed davey would be a good point. i think the people there, they love him in the same way as the reform party conference. they go crazy about nigel. i think ed davey is their superstar and let them have their superstar. i think that's fine, but there's never been a worse time to be the third party with such majority. >> it's pointless. there's never really going to be a time when you've got to go, oh come, please, lib dems vote for us. >> yeah, 72 seats. you do wonder. i mean, don't you? i mean, they're obviously there somewhere that is their best performance for a long time. >> it's the worst time to do your best performance. >> you're the worst time to sing. yeah. no you're right, i think. i think it works on that basis. >> no, but you've just

identified something. yes, you're right about it too much. ed davey. well, if they want to get more people into the lib dems and take advantage of this moment that they're the third party, they need to get more characters. they kind of need to literally make like the lib dem, spice girls . well, we're not spice girls. well, we're not just looking at dem spice girls, not just stunt spice, which is ed davey. they need to have a couple more that we start to recognise, because i can't think of any other lib dem mp apart from ed davey because he's always shooting down water slides. >> yes, point, someone's going to get injured. it's all fun and games nonsense until you know someone loses the liberal spice democrats. >> the lsd we could do could go wrong i reckon. what could go wrong i reckon. what could go wrong with that? it's got to be good, right? >> let's move on to this next big battle if you want to see a fight. brazil and elon musk between elon musk and the brazilian supreme court. technically, it rumbles on. this week, some of musk's companies were fined by the brazilian government after users in brazil were able to briefly access x, formerly known as twitter. brazilian users flooded back to the website before it was blocked again. the brazilian

authorities then found the firm 5 million reais, which is around 920,000 usd, for breaching the ban . it looks like regulating ban. it looks like regulating the internet is a bit trickier than people thought. >> yeah, it's kind of like everybody in brazil briefly had a vpn. visible panty. >> what's right ? >> what's right? >> what's right? >> well, no, no, no, the one where you can access the other internet sites, not mutually exclusive. >> they could have had both the, it's interesting to me that that obviously x is saying that no, it was an accident. >> we were updating our systems and to do that, it meant that they jumped around on different servers. and the brazil government are saying, well , government are saying, well, this is clearly something you did on purpose. you clearly shifted this around the service so we couldn't block you. you were clearly using servers that were clearly using servers that were used by banks. but in my opinion, musk is kind of a bit like now take this the right way. so everybody breathe. he's kind of a bit like putin in that

the way that people put like laws on putin. they say you're going to be fined. you are this, you are that. and putin goes like he's like alan partridge. he's like, okay, but you're right. how is musk? yeah. how can they hold musk to account if they've already shut down any of his businesses and he's not allowed in brazil? >> this is the big problem. i have elon musk's father on my show all the time, every week. he's there. okay? he's a brilliant guy. and i talked to him about this. freedom of speech has never been in a more critical position. we've had the head, the ceo of telegram, was arrested in france . we've had arrested in france. we've had brazil. basically, they've stopped x. that was the idea . stopped x. that was the idea. originally it was done through starlink, which was another one of elon's companies. and then basically brazilians. i think there's about 21 million active users in brazil of x. they started using these vpns, the virtual private network. and what happened is the brazilian government said, we're going to fine you up to $9,000 a day if you do that. so all of a sudden this other one came out and it was, i think it was done through cloudflare. his name of what it is. and basically they could

access their x accounts accordingly. but it's a really, really scary time. we've got to call it out, because a lot of what's happening now is they're trying to shut down freedom of speech, and it's our fundamental right. we've got to talk out about it. >> and i know at the start i did say, you know, it's hard to control the internet, but at the moment brazil are kind of winning. >> well, i think that's the sad not know if the world turns round. actually the white house this week, jd vance, which always sounds like a cheap department store, doesn't it? jd vance, you were all of a sudden had that road to damascus moment with donald trump. he used to call it. you remember it was he called him the american hitler in 2016. and that's what he said. those are his words. and he basically said, well, that's what i thought about him in 2016. i've now had i've seen what a brilliant president he is. that's why i now could be his running mate. but what he said, he said that they basically will stop funding things like nato and so on and so forth. if you start blocking elon musk and shutting him up and we have to have a platform where people can speak about things, and that's the difficulty. >> yeah, but does it have to be x? you see, like the brazilian government would easily argue, well, we will create our own social media platform. i mean, trump, for example , he created

trump, for example, he created truth social because he felt that his identity was being suppressed online. i mean, it is very important to get it out there and get all this freedom of speech out there. what amazes me is that as soon as it went online, so many people flooded to use it. like, how did they know that it was suddenly coming onune?it know that it was suddenly coming online? it must have just spread like wildfire. and it shows that there's a real need for it out there. i mean, i mainly use it for cat memes. i'll be honest. >> i love seeing your cat memes. there we go. you've got no kids and a catwoman. there you go. you and britney spears and taylor swift and various others make up that sort of principle. no, the reality, the reality is this. it's really, really worrying stuff. 21 million users in brazil, that's what they wanted. what happened? the reason it was shut down originally was two things. there's one. he didn't have a representative there which was supposed to do under brazilian law. and secondly, he started allowing people who were against the government to say things. so it really is freedom of speech. so joking aside, it's an appalling state that we have to

call it out and all these different crimes and those yvette cooper now wants to start basically charging people for offence. if people are the harm, you might get a little tweet and you might get a little tweet and you might get a little tweet and you might sort of say in a joking sort of way, but if it's upsetting for somebody, it could become a crime, you know, if it were a crime, that's one thing. >> but when the idea of having a punishable thing, that's not a crime. yeah. it's terrifying. >> it's absolutely terrifying. i think, therefore, i am arrested is the new descartes thing. it's got to be good. >> now let's do a classic. they're at it again. gary lineker and dame emma thompson are fronting an eco campaign designed to, despite their own air miles, ending with more zeros than gary's licence fee funded salary. lineker has responded to the accusations of hypocrisy with a classic we're all hypocrites line is standard response when those with privilege want to keep on lecturing the rest of us without actually doing anything . or actually doing anything. or maybe i'm being a bit harsh. i mean, gary's actually right? we are all hypocrites. yes also won was a glorious line from dame emma. >> she says i may well be hypocritical by flying, but i'm

conscious of flying, so i fly much less. there you go. so i'm conscious of being hypocritical. therefore that's okay. well, i also never unconsciously flown. >> i've never woken up and like, what am i? i got out of an aeroplane through security. >> it's going back to the liberal space, whatever the lsd. you've got to be very careful on consciences. you know, the reality is exactly that. and they say they have to fly because of their jobs. i'm not because of theirjobs. i'm not quite sure that people just fly for the sake of flying. i mean, we want the international, you know what happens here. what what they're saying is they don't take private planes as much as they might have done, which is one thing. the reality is we need to call it out. they know if you say, well, i know i'm being hypocritical, but i'll carry on anyway. it's an interesting point. >> why would you pick them to front it? that's the thing. it's such low hanging fruit for everyone. now, instead of discussing the issues they might want us to discuss, we'll be discussing their hypocrisy. so just keep these people off it. otherwise, you know exactly what's going to happen. this. >> yeah, i think they've they've picked a real pair of duds, to be honest with you to, to know they are a pair of duds. >> i love them both. they're wonderful. they speak so highly

of you and your fudge. how can you how can you tell me? they're dancing? they're duds. >> they're bloomin duds. because i'm sorry, but emma thompson lost all kind of respect from me when she was calling the police pigs. i'm sorry, but when she is there as an incredibly well paid actress who's been an incredibly privileged positions, and she's flown over to stand on a bus and call the police officer's pigs, i'm sorry, but she's in the bin as far as i'm concerned. and he who once sold crisps is not allowed to sell crisps anymore because even they're like, no thanks, gary, we'll just take our crisps over to another party. >> you know, i should though, we should do the hypocrisy check. oh, go on then. what? >> how much is that for? >> how much is that for? >> what do you do to minimise your carbon footprint? >> well, i basically made sure that others go and do less so i can do more. i mean, that's what i do. yeah i know, i fly all over the place i'm off to, i go to can i present the drama awards down there? it will take me ages to walk there. i'd have to start now . i then go off to to start now. i then go off to serbia, where i'm presenting a

thing for the royal family, and then i'm going to japan, where i'm doing a tv show, and that's all work in this country? no, i don't know. nobody would employ me. but it's worth it. what a weekend that's going to be. but that's the reality. i think if you have to go for your job, then that's what you've got to do. and i think that's the reality. let's be honest about it. and it's no good telling people to say, do this, but don't do it yourself. and it's the hypocrisy. go back to beforehand what starmer was saying with all his clothes and his rocky horror show. you work on that sort of basis. it's going to come back to bite you. just be very careful what you say and why you say it. yeah. >> and what's the carbon footprint on your fudge, >> it's pretty low, actually. i and i always make sure i use british butter and british cream and british sugar, but when i, i've recently swapped to a reusable coffee pod because i've got a little machine that uses coffee pods, and i was like, do you know what these little plastic things are a waste. i've got a little reusable one now. there you go. so there's little changes. we're safe. >> the planet is safe . coffee >> the planet is safe. coffee pods. there is a reusable pod being used next. on saturday night's showdown, it's culture

corner. we will be discussing a newly minted burglar, a cleaning company that wants you to less. and will i be

welcome back. now it's time for culture corner. who wants to be a millionaire? most of us, if we think about it. but. well, if you're a convicted burglar , you're a convicted burglar, steven wilson, that dream became a reality. this week after he was awarded over £5 million by a high court judge for life changing injuries received whilst working in the prison kitchens. the full story here is that mr wilson was attacked by a prisoner who was serving a life sentence for murder and should not have been left unsupervised, but was left unsupervised. so no doubt the prison services did actually fail him. but it is true that £5 million in compensation seems quite a lot for a burglar. i mean, diane, i suppose one take would be

there's not going to be recidivism. he ain't going to rob another corner shop, is he? he's got 5 million in the. that's one way to solve crime. >> that is one way. yes, yes. let's just let's make sure that nobody can pay for their winter heating and make sure that all the burglars who have already robbed them get £5 million. i'm not sure how £5 million past people's brains. like, do you know what i mean? like, was there not a point where somebody in that process went. do you think 5 million is a bit much? >> it's like 5 million minus the amount that he stole. at least that would have been what, like , that would have been what, like, i understand that he, received some very life changing, permanently altering wounds. >> like some of these i can't even understand. i'm not sure what an incomplete spinal lesion is, but it's spinal. it doesn't sound. >> it's not good. good. a wheelchair and things like that. >> right. so he needs a wheelchair, but i'm still. and where does the 5 million come from? can i tell you? >> yes. being a lawyer, i can tell you how it works. and

actually, i think it's a massive distraction. you know, it's a massive distraction saying he's a burglar and things like that, the way that the law is supposed to be blind to, to whatever happens. justice is supposed to be blind. he's 36 years old. the way that they calculate damage for personal injury, there are three things. one is the general damage which covers pain and suffering. and there's like a little tariff if you have an incomplete spine or whatever you get a tariff for that. the other thing is what's called special damages, which cover the expenses to date, but also for the rest of your life, which you might need as a result of your injury. they admitted liability injury. they admitted liability in this case because they said the particular person should not have been in the kitchen having access to knives and so on and so forth. so what happened then? the judge basically has this tariff so that justice is not just done, but seen to be done and working on that sort of basis. the headline that he's a thief, given 5 million, is a bit misleading on that basis , but misleading on that basis, but i'm sure there's a joke there somewhere, you know? but that's that's the reality. it is about justice. it's about tariffs. and that's how it works. yeah. >> you've done my favourite thing i like to do on headliners is you look at the headline and

realise , you know, whoever wrote realise, you know, whoever wrote the story, i feel sorry for them because it's someone else. yes subs who write the headlines and they're always misleading. yeah. so it's not about that is it? >> this is it's irrelevant. he's a burglar. because what's the alternative? you turn around. you're a burglar. i can kill you. okay, that's all right. it's got it's got to be fair on that sort of basis. it's a tariff. and look at it. he's. he's 36 years old. maybe he has another 50 years, maybe 100 grand a year, is still a lot of money, but maybe he needs stuff in his home and so on. and so forth for keeping with that sort of lifetime. if he can't work, all of those sort of factors come into it. that is the evidence that gets unpacked in court, and that is how they try and reach it. of course, they need to work out that it's a fair and equitable way of deaung fair and equitable way of dealing with it. the mistake here is communication. what they should have done is turn around and say, look, this is the basis upon which we do it. it would apply to anybody in this situation. these are the tariffs. and this is why we've doneit tariffs. and this is why we've done it this way. >> the headline still would have been written in exactly. of course it would. but to answer diane's question where does the money come from though? >> well, it comes from her salary. she's selling the fudge and all the toothpicks adverts

and all the toothpicks adverts and stuff. she does sell. it's got to be good, >> let's move on to this company that exists . to sell washing that exists. to sell washing products to consumers makes a lot of sense. so far. it's telling their customers to wash their clothes less. okay ecover, if that's what it's called, is calling on their customers to wash clothes less for the sake of the environment . they're an of the environment. they're an eco brand, so apparently people feel societal pressure to wash their clothes more regularly than they need to. i mean, i'd say anyone who hasn't sat next to someone who's, you know, not changed their kecks in a week, probably if every if ever you're on public transport, societal pressure should be there a little bit to not stink, don't you think? public transport. >> what's that? >> what's that? >> oh, look at him. he flies the way he's a lawyer. >> i get carried everywhere. there's swans. still have to. peacock, peacock feathers. what i loved in this article was a wonderful quote from katherine ashenburg, who does a book called clean an unsanitised history of washing. and she says in the 17th and 18th century, among the dirtiest centuries in the west, people, including

doctors, believed that changing your linen shirt frequently was a safer and more effective way of washing your body than with soap. and apparently, louis, the 14th bathed only twice in his long lifetime as a result of it. so you wouldn't want to go on the tube with him. don't go on the tube with him. don't go on the jubilee line late at night with louis. the 14th. >> but that's the body, because the body is theoretically supposed to have this self—cleaning ability, which, yeah, it's supposed to have that point where they always say to you, oh, don't wash your hair. and eventually it cleans itself. it's like, yes, but there comes a point where i look like i'm carrying, like just an oil slick around on my head before i, i get to that aethereal moment, i think it's quite interesting that this, washing brand are telling us to wash our clothes less. maybe i mean, i have a very cynical view of this , very cynical view of this, because maybe part of it is because maybe part of it is because now. now, this is my thinking that if it's an eco brand, maybe they're not using harsh detergents. if they're not using harsh detergents, maybe

it's harder to get out stains. so they're saying don't wash your clothes as often, because then when they actually do wash then when they actually do wash the clothes using a natural detergent, you can tell, like whereas before maybe you couldn't . yeah, but that's just couldn't. yeah, but that's just my theory. >> here's my take on it is that, all all companies want you to use loads of their products, but there's no niche in that. these people, the only way they'll flog their product over the ones that we can all name is by going, oh, actually, we're saying don't do it so much and we're eco friendly. so by our guys. >> oh, so you buy like a sensational i actually think, i think there is a limit to how much you need certain things. >> i mean you don't go to a funeral directors more than once when you die. i mean, you work and they say it's backed by lily cole. now, lily cole has been brilliant together with with people like all sorts of vivienne westwood and so on and so forth. and what they say don't buy as much, buy better, but buy less, and they talk about clothes and so on and so forth. that's how you're protecting the environment in this sort of situation. you don't need to if you don't need to wash it so often, don't do it. and it's good to have honesty in brands. and i think i

always say that trust comes in on foot and leaves on horseback. and the reality is now trust in politicians, trust in the media, trust in the police and various others. trust in brands is at an all time low to have a brand which is honest about it and say, actually, you don't need that much and you're going to be better if you don't do it has got to be good. >> yeah, but if you don't trust your washing detergent brand, how do you get through life? oh no, i don't. >> somehow, because i was now. >> somehow, because i was now. >> the following intro has been written by i. oh good. oh i is rapidly transforming the creative industry, taking on tasks like design, writing and music composition that were once solely human domains. while ai offers efficiency and new possibilities, it also raises concerns about job displacement. some fear ai will replace creative roles, while others see it as a tool to enhance human creativity, pushing the industry towards collaborative future. that wasn't actually bad. no it was terrible. >> what i thought was interesting was you delivered it almost in an ai voice. >> you were you were the most robotic thing about it was this brilliant stephen hawking. brilliant. i love stephen, it

was brilliant . brilliant. i love stephen, it was brilliant. i'm brilliant. i love stephen, it was brilliant . i'm here to put was brilliant. i'm here to put the ai into britain. i speak around the world back to the future as i do. as a futurist. we talk about the great advances in al, both in medicine and creative industries in many different fields. i always say that al is our greatest human achievement, but also potentially our biggest existential threat. and it's understanding those capabilities. you might remember last year in hollywood, they had the big actors strike together with the writers strike. yeah, i was at the centre of that because goldman sachs said 300 million jobs, 300 million jobs are going to be lost to ai because it's basically going to automate a lot of those already happening. i've seen it the basis. >> yeah, i'm i'm sorry to interrupt, but i have seen it because when you go for an audition, you sometimes get like the storyboard through the auditions. yeah, yeah, for the acting things and sometimes, recently i've seen very, very realistic. like it looks like a photo shoot and that's been created with al . but also, i've created with al. but also, i've heard chats from other actors who have said, well, they took

my voice and they needed to change the script, so they just used ai change the script, so they just used al to modulate my voice. and now they're not hiring me again. >> even more advanced than that now, because now you can do dubbing into several different languages automatically, so you can go from english to russian to all that different bits and pieces. one of the things about the hollywood strike is they turned around . they said we turned around. they said we could use all these extras. we do half a day's shoot and we could use their image forever, because you can replicate all that sort of stuff. you might remember it started very early on. we did drake and the weekend there was that composition that basically fooled the world, and that was created by ai. you then had the pope and a puffer, you know , and that sort of basis, know, and that sort of basis, all these fake images, everything you see can all be replicated by ai. and seeing is no longer believing. >> well, it's like our the sports bulletin, the ai sports bulletin that samples tatiana. and apparently we're not allowed to take a copy of that voice for our own personal use. i keep emailing hr about it as a side issue , but this is i mean, it's issue, but this is i mean, it's all right for you travelling the world talking about al. yes,

it's our jobs out the window. no, no, but it's not. >> so the best way of using ai is basically first you understand its capabilities, but it is the best co—pilot. as i say, if i meant to mention the last five seconds that elon musk, as i say, his father, is on my show all the time and we talk about that, but you talk about the capabilities every industry needs to understand how it can make their jobs a lot it can make theirjobs a lot eafien it can make theirjobs a lot easier. you might remember last year using it to get rid of actors. >> well, they're not, because now they are like the only reason they're not is because of the deal though. >> yeah, but the deal as soon as they get a chance to they will. but also you've got certain things. >> so darth vader's voice, you know, we lost him a few days ago, some movies. he couldn't do that when they were de—aging, you know, people like harrison ford, who appeared in certain movies. a younger version of him was created by ai, but that's stopping other people having to play stopping other people having to play the young version of indiana jones. well, yeah. the dealis indiana jones. well, yeah. the deal is this it has to be on the bafis deal is this it has to be on the basis that it makes commercial sense. so what you need to look at is the intellectual property rights, the deal that you do with actors and actresses, if you can earn money in your sleep but you're licensing your image, that's the way to go. >> i've never made a commercial. >> i've never made a commercial. >> i've never made a commercial.

>> i don't like it. >> i don't like it. >> next, on the saturday night showdown, it's clown world. we'll be looking at royal armouries trying to get down with the kids, prank that's going around the world's golf courses, and trump at a

welcome back to saturday night showdown. so it's time now for clown world, the curator of the royal armouries decided to let his gen z staff write his promotional script. what could go wrong? let's take a look. >> brat. summer is over , bestie. >> brat. summer is over, bestie. it's time to enter your historical era. the royal armouries is the most sigma day out in leeds. no cap slay small. the line armour is serving main character energy pop off queen henry the eighth is the original rizla. his codpiece hits different. this is the largest display of arms and armour since

the 19th century. very based chat. this diorama is sending me. dioramas are lit, our calf ate and left no crumbs for real negative aura points. if you miss the gift shop, our tote bags understood the assignment . bags understood the assignment. yeah so credible that was believable. >> i thought he was one of them. that was shakespearean. >> it was wonderful. i love it. pop off. slay queen. you slay any of it meant because it did sound like i'd had a stroke. >> i love all of it. english anymore by that tote bag. >> i think it's absolutely brilliant. absolutely brilliant. and it's got to be good. some politicians get it completely wrong because they try and do it for real. that was so tongue in cheek. it's brilliant and everybody's going to go to that site. i can guarantee you by tonight that tote bag is sold out and that codpiece he took from henry the eighth, you watch that? >> well, quite a few. quite a few other sort of heritage sites

have done that. now and honestly, when they sort of point at something and said louis the 12th understood the assignment, i am dying . i just, assignment, i am dying. ijust, i love it. and do you know what though? it's a good way to sort of understand the younger generation. you could sort of understand when they point at something and go slay , and it's something and go slay, and it's like learning a new language. you go, that's the one that sticks out like a sore thumb. >> if you've got armouries and the word slay is involved, i'm thinking of its original meaning. and this is what you with his codpiece, which is not what it's like. it's not the way i want to go. >> no, you're right. it's like at christmas time with bob slaying. all the bobs are worried. so you work. you work. thank you. i'm here all week. no, the reality is that though, in horrible histories is another brilliant way of teaching kids about history. get them engaged. history is fascinating. >> yeah, well, there's a trend that's sweeping the world's golf courses. now to take a look at. it's called fake . i love this it's called fake. i love this not to be confused with fake shake. that was a different prank, wasn't it? yes. this is more about entrapping greedy celebrities. now that one was. this is more about entrapping golfers who don't know what's

going on. the fake snake. take a look. so what you can see here is i don't know if you can see how this works. you secretly attach a string snake to the back of your friend's clothes . back of your friend's clothes. then they run around thinking there's a snake and they try and hit the snake, but it follows them around because it's attached. and then you sit around and you laugh until you know they get injured. >> i am getting ptsd from this. can i tell you the i, the biggest spider possibly in the world, what actually crept onto my leg and it was attached to me. so i actually feel the pain of these people running away from the snakes, even though they're fake. >> do you know what i mean? some famously people have worn brooches like that. they must dunng brooches like that. they must during the supreme court. >> yeah. so i don't think the spider works on a string, though. >> he's not going to be the same as it. they've got their own webs. >> they don't need streets. next up, it's mark dolan tonight. so what have you got for us this evening, mark? well, stephen, number 10 mired in crisis. >> panic talks around the cabinet table regarding this very new government that's having a big problem with its reputation around sleaze. so in

my opinion, why the free gear steer clear story actually matters. and it may take it ten wild eco hypocrisy from saint gary lineker and dame emma thompson. find out why we're live from nine. >> excellent . can't wait for it. >> excellent. can't wait for it. so thanks to my panel, the fudge deliverer maker. but she's not just about fudge. she also does jokes. she's been telling me in the break to make sure i mention it. diane spencer and andrew eborn, he's a lawyer. i don't say anything at all. don't forget the headliners is back tonight at 11. i shall see you there where i'll be hopefully with two other people covering some of the news stories. all right. mark dolan's on the way for you. next sit there and get yourself ready to be entertained. until next time on, have a good one. >> hurrah, hurrah. >> hurrah, hurrah. >> looks like things are heating up. boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news.

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northwards with some very heavy pulses possible. and there is a rain warning in force throughout the day, so do take care if you are travelling or out and about some disruption is certainly possible. again, it is going to be quite warm and humid even amongst all this rain. so temperatures where you do start to see some of those sunny spells emerging into the afternoon could still see highs around 20 or 21 c. 18 to 20 c is certainly also possible for the likes of oban and fort william places in western scotland. this area of low pressure that's bringing that rain on sunday is going to become quite slow moving on monday as well, and so there's potential for further heavy rain around at times. there's still some uncertainty just in regards to the exact placement of this rain, so it's worth keeping up to date with the forecast. but another rain warning is in force throughout much of monday. again, some disruption, surface water issues and spray on roads is possible. generally drier further towards the north, but you'll start to see some of that rain pushing into the far north of scotland. and that heralding a slight change as we head over the next few days, things turning cooler with a northerly wind setting in by a brighter outlook, with boxt

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gb news. >> good to see you. it's 9:00 on television, on radio and online in the united kingdom and across the world. this is mark dolan tonight in my opinion. more scandal as it emerges that chancellor rachel reeves has also received thousands of pounds for new clothes from a wealthy donor. meanwhile veteran labour mp diane abbott says sir keir starmer is in the pocket of millionaires who could disagree is free gear. keir, the greediest prime minister in history? i'll be answering that question in just two minutes. in my big opinion. question in just two minutes. in my big opinion . in the big my big opinion. in the big story, nigel farage tells his conference the reform uk can overtake conservatives at the next election is the most

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