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good luck of political pets. good luck everybody. all that and more. 9 to 11 pm. get ready britain. here we go . here we go. is a terrorist moving into a council flat near you . next. council flat near you. next. >> good evening. i'm sophia wenzler with your headlines just after 9:00. rachel reeves has accused the last conservative government of choking off investment and suffocating growth in living standards. in her speech at labour's conference in liverpool today , conference in liverpool today, but not before she faced a protester . we are still selling protester. we are still selling arms to israel . accuses labour arms to israel. accuses labour of selling arms to israel before being removed with shouts of free palestine heard from backstage. getting back on
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track, the chancellor declared labouris track, the chancellor declared labour is a party that represents working people, not a party of protest, earning her a standing ovation. she went on to promise to repay the trust of voters and set out what her first budget on the 30th of october will focus on. >> so it will be a budget with real ambition , a budget to fix real ambition, a budget to fix the foundations, a budget to deliver the change that we promised a budget to rebuild britain. and my budget will keep our manifesto commitments. every choice we make will be within a framework of economic and fiscal stability. you'd expect nothing less. we said we would not increase taxes on working people, which is why we will not increase the basic, higher or additional rates of income tax, national insurance or vat. and we will cap corporation tax at its current level for the duration of this parliament. >> meanwhile, hundreds of pensioners staged a protest outside the conference centre as part of unite's campaign against the cut to winter fuel payments. the unions, demanding a u—turn
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on the policy, which removes payments from 10 million pensioners. unite's andy green called it an outrage, claiming the labour leadership have attempted to take out the debate on the cuts . now, almost half on the cuts. now, almost half the total number of migrants who have crossed the english channel this year have arrived in the ii this year have arrived in the 11 weeks since labour came to power. despite worsening weather, over 1900 migrants arrived in dover this weekend , arrived in dover this weekend, pushing this year's total to 25,000. 11,500 have now crossed in the space of just two and a half months since labour won the general election. in other news, police have said the murder of a 15 year old in south—east london is a stark and sobering reminder of the danger of zombie style knives. police were called to the attack in woolwich on sunday evening, where the boy was found with a stab wound. he died shortly after. a witness who tried to save him said the boy pleaded i'm 15. don't let me die. as she stemmed the bleeding. the victim's family
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has been informed , but no has been informed, but no arrests have been made and a crime scene remains in place. and nurses in england have rejected the government's offer of a 5.5% pay rise. two thirds of a 5.5% pay rise. two thirds of royal college of nursing members voted against the deal, in a record turnout of 145,000. the pay award was announced in july, shortly after labour's general election win. the ch's general election win. the ch's general secretary says nursing staff are determined to stand up for themselves , their patients for themselves, their patients and the nhs while pushing for reforms. those are the latest gb news headlines. now it's back to patrick for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . gbnews.com forward slash alerts. >> dozens of terrorists have waltzed into britain by getting
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a small boat across the channel. that's the allegation robert jenrick a man who has seen all the sensitive information available at the home office, said in the year before i was immigration minister, more than a dozen known terror suspects crossed the channel on small boats. by now, that figure is well into the dozen . these are well into the dozen. these are people our security services identified as known quantities, threats to our communities with links to islamic state and al—qaeda and they waltzed right in. well, those terrorists will no doubt be welcomed into the open arms of these gullible , open arms of these gullible, useful idiots. the refugees welcome brigade . refugees are welcome brigade. refugees are welcome brigade. refugees are welcome here. >> so long. say it clear. >> so long. say it clear. >> refugees are welcome. >> refugees are welcome. >> robert jenrick also said that around 1000 migrants who arrived in small boats in 2022 and 2023 have been linked to criminality. now the labour party has apparently denied this, but i suppose it's a question of who you believe, isn't it.7 mps have
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been banned from hiring foreign interns in case they might be spies. only those with three years uk residency out of the past five years will qualify for a parliamentary pass. now this annoys me because our politicians admit that people who we've already vetted might pose a risk to national security, but they expect us to live amongst people who've just broken into britain. so we, the public, have to take all the risk. us, the plebs, have to tolerate people living in hotels , tolerate people living in hotels, council houses, whatever. and we're told, no, no , don't worry. we're told, no, no, don't worry. or if you do get worried about it, you're far right. but they won't even have foreign staff just in case they pose a risk to national security. but they're just the same as the refugees welcome brigade, though, aren't they? because here is a video of some of that refugees welcome lot being asked to sign a contract to allow a refugee into their own homes. >> just notice your placard saying refugees welcome it. i'm just wondering if you'd like to go down on a list saying you're
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willing to take the refugees into your home. of course, the only problem is i rent. you rent? yeah. maybe an issue. >> yeah, because they've got . >> yeah, because they've got. >> yeah, because they've got. >> well, well, if i had any space, i would have had any space. wouldn't be a nice place to bring them. yeah, a bit overcrowded right. yes. >> sorry. rental. yeah. >> sorry. rental. yeah. >> yeah . you can't do it. yeah. >> yeah. you can't do it. yeah. someone else's job. yeah. yeah. no, i'm sorry i can't you can't take one i don't have, i don't have, i don't have, i don't have, i don't have, i don't have, i don't have, i don't have, i don't have the space. >> perhaps the greatest irony in all of this was spotted at the ongoing labour party conference. so apparently there was a mass migration stand up to racism events. that was oversubscribed. so they had to get this implement a one in, one out policy. well, just in case it got a bit too crowded. was it just in case it got a bit uncomfortable for the people who were already there? look, all of our lives are being put in danger by what's coming across the channel and our left wing politicians and the refugees welcome activists want us all to take all of that risk on, without being willing to take any of that risk themselves.
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let's get the thoughts of my panel this evening. political commentator and broadcaster emma webb. we've got journalist and commentator benjamin butterworth and the former chairman of the conservative party, sir jake berry. emma, i'll bring you in on this. you know, we have now the very serious allegation from a man who should know and probably does know robert jenrick, that we've got terrorists coming across the channel. but, you know, we have mps there. they won't even take a foreign staffer just mps there. they won't even take a foreign stafferjust in case a foreign staffer just in case that person turns out to be a spy. that person turns out to be a spy- why that person turns out to be a spy. why is it the public have to take all the risk? >> i mean, you'd laugh if it wasn't so terrifying. it'd be pretty surprising, wouldn't it, if islamic islamist terrorists weren't exploiting these routes. they did it all. throughout the migrant crisis, many of those who were connected to attacks in europe said europe had exploited those migrant routes and the free movement of people on the european continent within schengen or whatever. so, i mean, it would be shocking if they weren't exploiting those routes. and i think the stand up to racism event just says it all
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doesn't it? i mean, they one in, one out, that's a very reasonable policy. and actually, you know, these are the sorts of people who like to go to big events where they have huge fences up that are ticketed and exclusive, and so that they can have their sort of extinction rebellion sort of festivals and, and labour party conference is the same. but they and they, they value their security in those settings. they won't let unvetted migrants into their own homes, but they don't mind if it becomes the neighbour of somebody in a deprived area. i don't think that sounds like it's very much in the socialist spirit, does it? >> why is it okay, benjamin, for the public to just have to take it on the chin, that there might be a terrorist moving into a council house or a hotel near them? >> well, first of all, i can't believe robert jenrick is lecturing on the numbers of people coming across in boats. given that he was the immigration minister that saw the numbers go through the roof, he is one of the men responsible for this, so it might be a bit more honest for him to take
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responsibility rather than throwing stones. >> do you accept that terrorists are coming across the channel though? >> well, it's definitely a problem that anyone's coming across the channel because you don't know who they are and it's dangerous for those people. but i think the idea that all these people are somehow i hate when people are somehow i hate when people call them , military age people call them, military age men. they are young people often, you know, that are trying to build a life, escaping tragedies and war that we thankfully have no idea . well, thankfully have no idea. well, you know, you should be able to vet them, and you should be able to check who they are. but it is really ugly to call people that have been through horrors that we could not imagine, and to try and put them in a bracket with terrorists. given that most of them are doing this because they are fleeing terrorism, well, it does seem to me as though the pubucis does seem to me as though the public is being asked to take on an immense level of risk here aj, which is, you know, you're not allowed to talk about having any issues with that migrant hotel down the road or if social housing is going to be used to house some of these people. >> but when you look at some politicians, they're they're being told, oh, we better not
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even take people who've been vetted originally, people who've come to britain legally just in case they might be spies. if we can't figure out who a spy is, how on earth do we know who a terrorist is? >> well, look, the first thing is looking at the facts. robert jenrick would know what he's talking about. he was the immigration minister under rishi sunak. he would have had these sort of confidential briefings if he says this is what's happened. i'm afraid this is what has happened and probably is happening. that's deeply, deeply worrying for people who live here in the united kingdom. it's all very well for benjamin to say you should be able to vet these people. you can't. they're arriving illegally. they're coming on dinghies. most of them. we throw their passports away, they throw their passports away, they throw their passports away, and most of them we don't even find. probably they run off when they arrive in the uk. it's only probably very few of them that we actually intercept, this is deeply, deeply worrying more widely on this point of banning people who are foreign born, haven't lived in the uk, i think for five years from the parliamentary estate, working for mps . it's parliamentary estate, working for mps. it's just wrong. i mean, first of all, there is one member of staff who has been accused of spying on behalf of a foreign government. he was british. whether he's guilty or
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not, i don't think he's gone to trial yet. but he was british when i was a member of parliament. i often had interns from the united states. more often than not, i had more many, many more interns from rossendale and darwen in lancashire. my own constituency. but we had people come in from the united states. it made parliament better. it enabled the young people who work in parliament for mps to make connections with people around the world. i think this is a bad mistake and of course, if you apply it to parliament, i wonder if the government will be applying the same thing to the civil service. arguably, civil servants have much more access to confidential information than any member of parliament ever would. i'm not aware of the civil service banning people who are foreign born working for the civil service. it's inconsistent. it'sjust civil service. it's inconsistent. it's just very muddle headed and it just speaks to a government. it's all very well for benjamin to say , well, well for benjamin to say, well, robert jenrick was the person who oversaw this, but it's the labour government now. they have lost control of our borders. 46% of the people who've come to the united kingdom illegally , united kingdom illegally, irregularly, as they would say, have come in the last 11 weeks.
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>> it's extraordinary. let's just put that fact in perspective. the numbers that have been coming each day are basically exactly the same as the last two years. it's the fact that it's summer, not the fact that it's summer, not the fact that it's summer, not the fact that there was a change of government that doesn't undermine the. >> i thought the sun always shone under the labour party, undermine the problem. >> but the idea that, you know, afghanis in calais are flicking through the labour manifesto to check what's going to happen. i mean, it's obviously nonsense, you say that, but it's not obviously nonsense at all, because before there was at least some deterrent. >> and that deterrent was not just rwanda, it was the idea that if you did come and land on our shores, you would not be able to ever legally claim asylum. and that has now rwanda was a deterrent. >> then why did the numbers go up after it was passed by parliament? >> interesting. fine. well, why do the germans now want to implement it on the british taxpayer's dime? would be my retort to that. >> but but they don't. they don't. they don't want to. they don't. they don't want to. they don't want to send migrants away. they want to offshore the pi'ocess. >> process. >> well, exactly what keir starmer was talking about with giorgia meloni last week. he has accepted by his actions going to italy and saying to giorgia meloni this works, processing
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people in albania works. he's accepted, i believe, by his actions that he was wrong on rwanda. it's got rid of the only deterrent we had and numbers have gone up. >> if the labour party, which is said in this article that was published in the daily mail after robert jenrick quotes the labour party said that they deny this, that they deny that there's terrorists coming across there's terrorists coming across the channel. it does become a straight shootout between who do you believe? well, that's terribly worrying. >> if they are denying it because they don't know. they i mean, they they they don't know who's coming in on the small boats. that's the point. that's why people are concerned about security and anybody who is familiar with islamist extremism and the history of attacks in europe knows that they exploit those routes. so it's just nonsense to suggest that there's, you know, no security risk there. i don't know if that's exactly what they're suggesting, but if they are, then it's just frankly insane, and, you know, when keir starmer comes out and talks about things like having an amnesty, in order to fast track asylum claims to clear the backlog , that's the clear the backlog, that's the opposite of what the british people want. that's putting a sticking plaster over the problem. and of course, that's going to incentivise people to want to come across the channel.
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why wouldn't it ? they know that why wouldn't it? they know that now europe, that europe is toughening its restrictions on freedom of movement. the netherlands wants to close its border and to be tougher on migration. if the eu lets it, which it probably won't. but the fact is that other european countries are now sending a harder message on migration. where is the current labour government is sending the message that britain is soft coming soft. come here, our doors are open. when you see benjamin laughing at labour party conference where they implement a one in, one out policy, that is a perfect little metaphor for society, isn't it, where people think, actually it's a bit full, it's a bit uncomfortable. >> we have a finite amount of resources. we better do a one in, one out policy for an event that's designed to basically promote mass, unfettered immigration. does that not highlight the utter hypocrisy of the left more than anything else? >> no . i mean, britain is not >> no. i mean, britain is not full. only about 7% of britain is built on, for goodness sake . is built on, for goodness sake. >> spilled on all of it then shall we? >> yeah, i think that's i think move fast and build things as i think ed miliband said today. >> thank you for saying what you mean, benjamin. >> i think i think we should concrete over much of it, quite
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frankly, and put some houses up. but the idea of comparing a room, you know, with a health and safety requirement of how many people can be in it to a large country with masses of countryside and an economy that dearly needs more workers. you know, the only reason we're going to pay for all those retirees demanding big pension pots is by having more workers. so they either want the winter fuel allowance to be able to be funded or they don't. >> but it doesn't matter because they're not getting it anyway. you've already abolished that. >> we need more archewell. >> we need more archewell. >> i mean, the economic case for that doesn't particularly work because it cost us £8 billion. i think it was in the last year, wasn't it, for migrants who are economically inactive. so there's this idea and gdp is wrong . gdp per capita is going wrong. gdp per capita is going down. that's not correct . down. that's not correct. >> they took the number of people not born in this country. and then times that by the amount of benefits they could get. but it was a completely fabricated statistic. it was completely fabricated. >> right. >> right. >> okay. yeah. because because most people that weren't born in this country and aren't in work are people that have chosen not to or retirees. >> by this, i mean, i think i think it's not just about money. there are communities up and
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down britain that are being they're losing community facilities. so in darwin there was a brilliant hotel that i used to take my kids to, to the carvery they had on a sunday with that was closed because the hotel got put full of migrants. they are being put particularly in working class northern communities where property is cheapen communities where property is cheaper. they are being put completely inappropriately in these communities with no facilities, no support, there's no new gp surgeries, there's no extra buses . that one in, one extra buses. that one in, one out is a perfect metaphor. >> my main point with this, which is to come back to where we started with the robert jenrick point, is that is those communities who are being asked to take all the risk , correct? to take all the risk, correct? they are the ones who are being asked to take all this. so you can you can argue about resources. you can argue about whether we should build more homes. you can argue about all of that. one of the main focus that i have is just out and out pubuc that i have is just out and out public safety. it's the issue of whether or not we have now got terrorists living in britain who came across the channel, and it is ordinary working class, normal people on the street who are being asked to take that risk in a way that, well, maybe they should all be housed in affluent areas. >> and then i think we would see
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the elite change their tune. >> i think we should take a vote. i think, i think i think we should have some kind of referendum whereby if pockets of the country decide that they want to be refugees, welcome, then they should take them there. and i would just finish this this by asking if you were in a position, benjamin, to would you would you be taking refugees into your own home? >> well, unvetted with london housing prices, it's definitely not a position i'm in. >> but if you were benjamin, if you were if i were, i gladly would, just like gary lineker did. >> just like gary lineker did, which was a, you know, an incredibly well vetted individual and all of that stuff. yeah. >> well, just like lily allen wouldn't. >> okay. all right. well, there you go. all right. look, still to come, rachel reeves brags about ending the strikes with pay about ending the strikes with pay deals. exactly. at the moment that the royal college of nursing decided to announce that they rejected the government's 5.5% pay rise offer, will labour now regret capitulating to the unions? but up next, it's the head to head. does angela rayner really need to rinse the taxpayer out of 68 grand for a personal vanity photographer? i mean, seriously, what next? what next is coming? this is patrick christys tonight. we're only on
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capital gains controversy, wasn't there? you might think that angela rayner would want to avoid any more heat directed at her, but she must be quite keen because it's been revealed that she apparently has hired a vanhy she apparently has hired a vanity photographer, costing you, the taxpayer , £68,000 you, the taxpayer, £68,000 a yeah you, the taxpayer, £68,000 a year. the first deputy prime minister to be granted one. now back in 2021, she grilled boris for spending your cash on photographers whilst children went hungry following a100 £0 cut in universal credit. well now pensioners will freeze to death following labour's cut to the winter fuel allowance, all the winter fuel allowance, all the while, rayner gets to indulge in getting snapped by her costly new hire. english commentator and football player gary neville. he chirped in, criticising the level of attention that all of this stuff is getting . is getting. >> it's incredible that this level of attention is now being paid to a labour prime minister. when i look at the absolute cronyism that the wall street is unden cronyism that the wall street is under, that it was just like
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gone. but given rayner's position and her past criticisms of those doing the exact same thing that she is doing now, does the deputy prime minister really need a £68,000 a year taxpayer funded photographer? >> let me know your thoughts. go to gbnews.com/yoursay or you can tweet me @gbnews. joining me now to debate this is the former conservative mp andrea jenkyns, and author and journalist rebecca reid. both of you, thank you very much. great to have you both on the show. andrea, i'll start with you. does angela rayner need a 68 grand a year vanhy rayner need a 68 grand a year vanity photographer? >> she certainly doesn't. and it's. what does it look like? i mean, i think she should be nicknamed rayner the drainer. she's draining taxpayers resources, actually, but they're just so out of touch. that's what i find frustrating . i can't what i find frustrating. i can't stand hypocrisy the way they criticise you know, my conservative governments over the years that she was the worst critic and she's been getting all these donations, getting her clothes paid for and now she's
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in government, she's spending nearly 70 grand of taxpayers money. i think it's completely off, rebecca. >> for me, it's that tweet isn't it? really. it's not it's not the issue itself. maybe because other people who've gone before her have no doubt you will point out , have her have no doubt you will point out, have done her have no doubt you will point out , have done the exact same out, have done the exact same thing. it's that tweet on the screen right now. instead of spending more taxpayers money on more photographers for the sake of his own vanity, the prime minister should prioritise feeding the children. that was angela rayner a couple of years ago. so? so is she a hypocrite here? >> i don't think she's a hypocrite. i think she did do a lot of tweets she probably wishes she hadn't done, but but bofis wishes she hadn't done, but but boris johnson's photographer, andrew parsons, was on £100,000 a year in 2010, so that is quite a year in 2010, so that is quite a staggering difference. if you adjust for inflation for how much they were getting paid. and i think i understand that andrew knows westminster, but i think i knows westminster, but i think i know print journalism and online journalism probably better. so i would just say the main reason that you have to have a photographer is that you can't write a story about someone doing something if you don't have an image to accompany it. so the reason that she has a photographer who is a who is a civil servant and a member of the communications team, more
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widely, which comes out of her team budget, the reason she has thatis team budget, the reason she has that is simply because you can't cover what she's doing. if you don't have images, and if you don't have images, and if you don't have images, and if you don't have your own photographer, you can't guarantee that there are images. >> okay. so, andrew, from that perspective, then, you know, apparently it's necessary. >> and i a lot of the videos got done on my phone. and you know, even as an mp over the years, you know, i had my phone, i mean, i've been editing videos myself over the years. i don't expect her to do that because she's obviously busy being the deputy prime minister. but i'm just saying you don't need somebody. she's got a big team. anyone can take a picture on the phone.i anyone can take a picture on the phone. i mean, look at, look at in the in the daily mail earlier she was having a picture drinking, what a bottle of cider or a glass of cider or something. does she really need someone paid nearly 70 grand's worth of taxpayers money to take pictures like that? i don't think so. >> rebecca, the reason. >> rebecca, the reason. >> yeah, well, it's about branding. and there's a reason that she's better liked still. and polls better than most tory than a lot of tory voters. well, evenin than a lot of tory voters. well, even in recent polls. yeah there
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is something. i'm not going to get into numbers, andrea, but i've looked and she's doing better than. i don't want to be rude, but she is pictured doing things like that for a reason because people find it likeable. it's relatable. >> we have to pay for that, though , rebecca. that's the though, rebecca. that's the point. i mean, it's easy to get a picture of her, but why? why am i paying and are you paying? and everyone we know paying for angela rayner to have a nice picture of her drinking something fruity. >> we're paying a photographer because photography is a skill and is a job, and you can't have somebody in your team who is taking photographs and accompanying you to events to photograph you, who isn't properly paid for that. i don't think you would suggest that any other kind of photographer shouldn't be properly paid for their job. shouldn't be properly paid for theirjob. and this is a member of a team. he's part of the communications team, so it's also about structuring it, liaising with the press, getting the photography, getting the photos to the right person. this is a bigger job. >> is a biggerjob. >> i think it looks awful though. i mean, we're taking money off our pensioners and she's paying nearly 70 grand for a photographer. i think it looks awful. and also i found a clip, early this morning of starmer in june, speaking to some nhs
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workers . and he actually had the workers. and he actually had the gall to say politicians have become too self—entitled. that was in june. and what are they doing become the most self—entitled i've ever seen in government . government. >> are they? i mean, this is thatis >> are they? i mean, this is that is that is a point, rebecca. so, i mean, you know, again, there's receipts for all of this stuff, isn't there? which is that if they hadn't been so puritanical before, i don't really think people would massively care. but the fact is, they have been. and angela rayner there had the gall to when boris did this, say, well, what about the starving children? well i would clap back rebecca and say, well what about the freezing cold, starving pensioners? labour's own initial impact assessment, which was done when they were in opposition, suggested that as many as 4000 pensioners might die this winter as a reduction of the winter fuel payment kicks in. but but you know, she's looking to look good in a new pantsuit at taylor swift or whatever, isn't she? that's great. >> i mean, there's so many things there . patrick, you talk things there. patrick, you talk for so long, the first thing to tackle probably is this kind of
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false equivalence. and this is very much like when kind of your dad gets on facebook and starts saying, why can't we pay nurses as much as footballers? it's not really how economics works. so angela rayner was wrong to make an equivalence between £100,000 on a photographer and children. absolutely. but also we are wrong to be talking about this now. the amount of money that that photographer costs would not fix a single problem in this country for more than about half an hour. there are thousands and thousands and thousands of people in endemic poverty as a result of the tory government being in power for far too long and not putting in the infrastructure that we needed, and to suggest that getting rid of one. £68,000 salary would fix that. of one. £68,000 salary would fix that . is a of one. £68,000 salary would fix that. is a complete of one. £68,000 salary would fix that . is a complete £300 that that. is a complete £300 that that. is a complete £300 that that 60 odd thousand pounds salary, >> where pensioners could, you know, get their fuel allowance and how many are there in this country . well at the end of the country. well at the end of the day, they shouldn't have stopped it. and it's what it looks like. you can't you cannot be in government and do as i say, not as i do. put the pensioners. >> i'm not pro scrapping it. i'm
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pro means testing it, which is much more sensible. we shouldn't be giving it to people just because they turn. >> yeah, but i suppose i suppose rebecca, it is just everything they've said before and, and when i look at this now and i think, well, if you needed, needed to have, you know, a new wardrobe because you had to look the part and, you know, you needed, you needed to be able to, you know, disappear off to new york for a few days because you needed to relax, or whether it was to go to taylor swift or whatever it was. and you need a photographer now because it helps with your brand. i mean, seriously, what what next is it? you know, someone needs to have botox or someone needs to have tooth whitening because then that that way, then are we going to end up on the hook for that stuff? >> as someone who was as someone who has tried to charge their account, get their accountant to sign off on botox as a business expense, i do respect, but i think that the question is, is this an appropriate or do we want donations or not? like andrea, for instance, got, what is it, £12,000? when she was doing her campaign for office expenses and that was completely legal. >> that was literally for literally for office expenses
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because unlike, unlike the labour party, who, who actually give money to their, candidates, we've got to get it from business. so the business, not a penny has ever been spent on me personally. it's gone on literature, paying for delivery, my donors for my election campaigns never paid for any of my clothes or anything as such. >> final point. rebecca sorry, i just just i just want to ask you this. rebecca, quickly, because we were a bit pressed for time. is it fair to say that at the very least , from what we've seen very least, from what we've seen from the labour party so far , from the labour party so far, they are just as bad as the tories ? tories? >> no, of course it's not because they're trying. well for lots of reasons. but apart from anything else, a really good equivalence is boris johnson's refurb. and the issue with that wasn't that he had the flat redone. it looked hideous. it definitely needed redoing. they picked a design with fantastic taste. the issue is how things are declared and how honest people are. and there are there are blocks on that copy book from labour, however, predominantly they have been very honest. >> donations in office costs the
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free clothes. they hid it. i mean, if that's not being devious, i don't know what it is. >> it's not being devious at all. that is a that's a legitimate cost. if you are campaigning and you need those votes should have been under gifts. >> it should have been under gifts. get clothes bought, put it under gifts. >> but that's that's very specific. like that's , you know, specific. like that's, you know, specific. like that's, you know, specific to angela rayner who we're talking about. >> there was no rachel reeves who hid it as well. >> rebecca, have the word and then we'll go . then we'll go. >> sorry. if you're fighting a campaign, it's completely appropriate to need professional outfits. there is no issue with that at all. they might not have filled out the form right, but the morally, they are a completely solid. >> oh, i see right. okay, well, this is the thing, isn't it? i mean, look, it's a good point to finish on, but there is this question, isn't there, of an inherent belief that if a labour politician does something, it was a mistake and their morals and their heart was in the right place? but if a tory does it, then you know they must. they must be evil and on the tape. but it's like gary neville said, thank you. thank you very much, both of you. as former conservative mp andrea jenkyns
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and author and journalist as well, rebecca reed. all right. look, coming up, english speakers are put behind patients who need an interpreter when waiting for nhs care. what's going on there? is that a case of brits at the back of the queue again? and is it any surprise that the chancellor was booed at her own party conference? kelvin mackenzie . he conference? kelvin mackenzie. he joins me in just a moment. but next, talking to the chancellor , next, talking to the chancellor, rachel reeves. well, she's she's bragged about ending the strikes with pay deals. exactly when exactly when the royal college of nursing rejected the government's 5.5% pay offer. so will labour now regret capitulating to the unions? patrick christys tonight we
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gb news. welcome back to patrick christys tonight. now, rachel reeves got a bit of ahead of herself when she said this today. >> conservatives gave no guidance to the pay review bodies on affordability, nor did they budget for the recommendations they offered. and the conservatives will deny that this was a choice that had to be made at all. they will claim that it was a vflb'e
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to be made at all. they will claim that it workersfflfggg to be made at all. they will claim that it workers b'e public sector workers. >> unfortunately for the chancellor , literally, while she chancellor, literally, while she was saying that nurses in england said that they'd rejected the government's offer of a 5.5% pay rise, two thirds of a 5.5% pay rise, two thirds of royal college of nursing members voted against the deal, in a record turnout of 145,000. the ch's general secretary says nursing staff are determined to stand up for themselves, their patients and the nhs whilst pushing for reform. now the unions turnout exceeded previous ballots. look, of course, the point is this, isn't it? junior doctors were given 22 and a bit percent pay rise. train drivers received almost 15%. meanwhile, the average salary of a nurse is reported to be somewhere between 37 and £42,000 a year. well, is it right that they should have rejected a 5.5% pay offer? i'm joined yet again by my panel. actually, we've got emma webb, we've got benjamin butterworth and we've got former chairman of the tory party as well, sir jake berry. jake, do you think they were right to reject this pay
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offer? >> well, i think the government was wrong to give doctors a 22% pay was wrong to give doctors a 22% pay rise and train drivers a 15% pay pay rise and train drivers a 15% pay rise, which is one of the first things they did when they came to power. this is going back to the 1970s. now i'm old enough to have been born in that decade, and what happened is every single trade union said no. if they've had 22% or 15%, we will not settle for less. and that was the insanity , the that was the insanity, the stupidity of rachel reeves coming in, capitulating to all these union demands for their paymasters. because of course, every single other trade union is going to say, we won't settle for less. and arguably nurses are probably more deserving. i think lots of people would believe of a bigger pay rise compared to, say, a train driver. >> this is a great point and i'll come to you on this. i wonder if there's actually a little bit of classism going on here. if the labour party, which of course they would hate, but they've given in, haven't they, straight away to those junior doctors, many of whom will go to on have lovely middle class lives buying their detached houses. meanwhile, they've stuck the nurses with 5.5% and said, go on, have that.
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>> i mean, you've got to laugh a bit. i mean, the nurses played a bunder bit. i mean, the nurses played a blinder with that. timing was just fantastic. but, look, i mean , why would they why would mean, why would they why would they take the 5.5% rise when, like, you say, and jake is absolutely right when they when they've seen these huge rises given to the junior doctors who were paid more than they're paid, nurses i actually do think are undervalued. and i think that most people would rather see the nurses get a pay rise than the train drivers who are already earning far, far above the national average to be given that 15% pay rise, it's very difficult for the labour government now that they've created this gold rush, to then justify giving a much lower, pay rise to those who are , frankly, rise to those who are, frankly, at the bottom of the rung when it comes to the nhs hierarchy, especially when you see people in the nhs in bureaucratic roles, diversity and equality and inclusion roles who are paid astronomical salaries, when those who are actually doing the. and i hate to use the phrase, but the grunt work,
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those who are really on the front line, the, the nurses, are earning so much less. i think people will, you know, be disgruntled by that. but, you know, i don't want to see anybody in the nhs striking because i don't think it's possible to do it without putting patients lives at risk. >> there is that. now, benjamin wes streeting had the gall to come out after the royal college of nursing said that and said, look, we know we know how you feel, we know how you feel, but the nurses need to know that they now have a party that cares for them. well, they don't care for them. well, they don't care for them. well, they don't care for them as much as train drivers or junior doctors, do they? >> well, i think that's a ridiculous comment. >> i mean, yeah, you're right, wes streeting is completely wrong. >> no, i think patrick. oh, sorry. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> they're not often confused , i >> they're not often confused, i mean, look, the maths of it is the fact that they're of very considerably more nurses than there are junior doctors. and so it will cost the state a lot more money to give a considerable pay rise to nurses than it would to doctors. we desperately need junior doctors and their pay rise, which is less than the pay cut they've
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had in the last 14 years, is dearly needed. and actually, you know, i think in this negotiation, i can understand why they maybe want more than 5.5%. right. because inflation has been very high in recent years and their wages have not increased. they want it because everyone else has got more money. >> why would you settle? i wouldn't settle for it if someone said, if i saw that my mate had just been given a 22.5% pay mate had just been given a 22.5% pay rise and my other mate had been given a 15% pay rise, i'm not going to take a 5.5% pay rise. >> well, nurses haven't had the same level of cut to their real terms pay as junior doctors have. so it is relative to the to the suffering they've had. but can i just say this? it really it really drives me. >> it really drives me. it's three years of this show. >> it really drives me mad. the main problem our economy since 2008 has been stagnant wages. the amount of money people earn, whether private or public sector, has not kept up with the cost of living and whether it's people on very normal wages like this, or low wages or rich people. i hate the attitude in this country where we resent pay rises . rises.
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>> rachel reeves has been mugged off there. the first labour party conference in government, the college of nursing. they way she's talking, she's talking, she's talking, she's talking, she's talking. hit her with the no deal. and you see, what i really object to is this idea that junior doctors didn't know what their pay was. >> so they say their pay has been eroded over 15 years. yes, but they only started their medical course five years ago, so they knew what they were signing up to. to say that you want your pay restored to what it was . while these junior it was. while these junior doctors were literally eight years old in school, not even knowing at the point that at that point they wanted to become junior doctors is bizarre, and junior doctors is bizarre, and junior doctors is bizarre, and junior doctors very quickly become senior doctors and earn £100,000 plus a year. that won't happen to nurses. and the labour party said we won't allow people to strike. we'll always give in. so what i say is more power to the nurses, go on strike, get the nurses, go on strike, get the pay rise that you need because it will bring this labour government down quicker than it than it. otherwise would be. and it's good for the country. >> there you are, a former chair of the tory party saying you'd rather people go without operations and the government be in chaos for the sake of
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political posturing? >> doesn't that tell you? >> doesn't that tell you? >> doesn't that speak volumes about the chaos we had under his government? >> all right, go on. >> all right, go on. >> you know what i think speaks volumes? the fact that we saw dawn butler earlier, i'm sure many people at home will have seen the video of her talking about sue gray and being paid so much, and the criticisms of her smack of misogyny, but i'd be interested to see whether any of these people who like to talk about misogyny so much within the labour party will be pointing out that the nurses are majority female. there you go, there you go. >> it's interesting. there's layers and layers to this, isn't there? but look, we know what's coming. there's no way. the teachers, i don't think anyone i don't think teachers are going to be to happy settle for 5.5%, if that's what they're really being. it's a gold rush. >> it's not going to happen. yeah. >> this is the first of many of these situations, it turns out, doesn't it? maybe just maybe, being in government is a little bit harder than being in opposition. but thank you again panel opposition. but thank you again panel. i'll be seeing you in about what, 15 minutes time. but coming up. yes our embattled prime minister, he faces his party conference in the thick of donore gate and the revelations just keep on coming. and maybe
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we found out what lord alli has got for his money, and we'll be talking about that at 10:00 pm. but next, english speakers. well apparently they're being put behind patients who need an interpreter when they're waiting for nhs care. what's going on there? and is it any surprise that the labour bigwigs were booed at their own conference over their treatment the patient the pensioners this winter?
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welcome back to patrick christys tonight. now, if you're wanting tonight. now, if you're wanting to use the nhs and you happen to be english and english is your nafive be english and english is your native language, then expect to be thrust to the back of the queue. apparently, patients in waiting rooms at imperial college healthcare nhs trust hospitals are having to witness those who require translators skip the queue in front of them. it is a shocking allegation. tory leadership hopeful robert jenrick he hit out at this approach and he basically said brits are already waiting too
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long for treatment. and to paraphrase him, he said that they should not, should not be suffering again as a result of mass migration. there's also an argument for a lack of integration, isn't there? joining me now is former editor of the sun, kelvin mackenzie kelvin. is this a straightforward case of brits being back of the queue, >> yes it is, and it's an absolute disgrace. and the reason for it is that they hire these interpreters at these hospitals for a set number of hours , and therefore what they hours, and therefore what they want to do is they will prioritise the of colour community or the migrant community, because otherwise they would have these interpreters hanging around all day. well, i say that actually the cost will be worth it to make clear to the english patients that they are important. after all, how are we to know until the doctors see them, that the english patients haven't got a bigger problem than the migrant patients, but actually in london, this is part of a much bigger issue. so i
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walked up from seven sisters tube to tottenham on saturday, a 25 minute walk and actually outside the football fans, the colour of london is changing. and if you go to i went to a restaurant on thursday night and myself and my the couple we were with, we were the only basically the only white people in the restaurant. london is in full scale change, mainly because it generates money. therefore there are jobs and therefore the migrant community, from wherever they come from, are coming into london to take work. so it's no surprise that in the hospitals, the doctors and the nurses and actually through the interpreters are actually getting priority. there's more of them and they're likely to be sicker as well. after all, they come from backgrounds where there aren't any, you know, kind of, you know, a lot of there
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isn't the national, i think. >> i think there's a yeah, i think i think there's a difference. i think there's a difference, isn't there, between people who might not be like, say, white, but also people who then just can't speak english. and it's the important bit here, which is about the idea that we clearly have a huge number of people, it seems, who are unable to speak english now. fine. look, hey, if i got ill abroad in france or spain or germany, i would not be able to speak that language. and so therefore, i'd be relying on them to talk engush be relying on them to talk english to me, or i wouldn't even be fine. you wouldn't get priority. but i would not expect priority. but i would not expect priority. the other aspect of this is, is actually if it is people who are living over here orindeed people who are living over here or indeed potentially in some cases were born here who have spent decades here and still can't speak the language . that can't speak the language. that is a problem. and it is a question of priorities, isn't it? i think those priorities might be wrong. are you going to go into east london, patrick? >> and the signs there are in other languages. so you know, this this can't come as a surprise. it's part of the changing shape of our nation. and it's one that jenrick has
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cottoned on to. nigel farage has been talking about it, even he has a view about it. so we do have political, we do have politicians who do understand it's a problem. it doesn't seem to be a problem though, to the current current labour administration, who would say, i can't see what your issue is. the issue is if we're going to do this, we should not prioritise one set of people over another. we should treat them. what is wrong with you ? them. what is wrong with you? you're serious? we'll treat you first. if it happens to be. if it happens to be somebody who can't speak the language, fine. but if it's somebody who can speak the language, they should get it. it's completely, utterly wrong. and it's these kinds of stories and these kinds of discussions on television which create a lot of unease in our communities. >> and it kind of needs to be had, though, right? because if it wasn't , then you wouldn't it wasn't, then you wouldn't really notice it, and you wouldn't necessarily you wouldn't necessarily you wouldn't it wouldn't be brought to your attention. and you might just be thinking, oh, or they might call you a bit mad if you
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were in that room and you saw it happening around you and you're like, well, hang on a minute. is this is this is this really happening? and when you consider the sheer amount of waste in other aspects of the nhs, the idea they've decided to penny pinch by allowing people who don't speak english to skip the queue.i don't speak english to skip the queue. i think that's the that's the best part of this kind. >> actually, this was in the mainstream media. i think it was either the mail on sunday or somebody, which is good because normally these kinds of these kinds of anecdotes or kinds of stories no longer get carried. and the reason they don't get carried because so an advertiser, a media buyer says we don't want our, our, our adverts to be alongside this kind of story. so there is a massive problem about actually getting these kinds of stories out there. so i'm very grateful for the mail on sunday. >> all right, calvin, look, thank you very much for your time as ever. former editor of the sun, kelvin mackenzie. we've got a spokesperson here for imperial college healthcare nhs trust saying patients are seen in our clinics. according to clinical need, which may sometimes mean that patients who come to the clinic later are seen before patients who have been waiting for longer. we are
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committed to responding to the specific needs raised by any of our patients, and every patient has the right to use a professional interpreter. and right, look, we've got loads more coming. your way, including have we finally found out what megabucks labour donor lord alli really got for his money? stay tuned for that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb. >> news . >> news. >> news. >> thanks for joining >> news. >> thanks forjoining me >> news. >> thanks for joining me for your latest weather updates from the met office here on gb news. it's been another very wet day, but the rain will at least be easing for many areas overnight and generally much drier day tomorrow, although there will still be some rain across scotland, scotland , northern scotland, scotland, northern ireland been largely dry today. it's been across england and wales where we've had the heavy and persistent rain from this area of low pressure still. met office yellow weather warning remains in place as that rain does start to ease from central parts, but staying pretty soggy across eastern england well into the night, drier elsewhere. but
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mate's corruption and that is the word is happening in plain sight. but now angela rayner bills the taxpayer about 68 grand for a vanity photographer, apparently, and a new theory has emerged about what megabucks freebie giver lord alli might have got for his money. and we are still selling arms to israel. >> i thought we were voting for change, rachel. climate breakdown is wahaca . breakdown is wahaca. >> well, it's no wonder that labouris >> well, it's no wonder that labour is getting heckled at their own conference. is it also tonight? >> i am proud to stand here as the first chancellor in 14 years to have delivered a meaningful, real pay rise to millions of pubuc real pay rise to millions of public sector workers. it was the right choice for parents, patients and for the british public. patients and for the british pubuc.the patients and for the british public. the right choice for recruitment and retention. and it was the right choice for our country. >> well, as she said, that rachel reeves was confronted by the nurses rejecting a 5.5% pay rise. >> plus, have to be honest with
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you, i was quite disappointed with the number of people that took action in the last action. >> i'll show you leaked footage of a just stop oil activist moaning about how unpopular they now are , and the national trust now are, and the national trust not only seeks to protect nature, but also england's historical identity. this story landed just moments ago. 70% of national trust staff are union jack hating progressive activists. apparently we reveal all at 1030 and. women's rights campaigner kelly j. keane has attacked in the street by a man. also tonight, as starmer gets a new kitten, can you name this back catalogue of political pets? all right. okay. i will also be joined, of course, by my wonderful panel tonight. it is broadcaster emma webb, journalist benjamin butterworth. and we're also joined by the former chairman of the tory party, sirjake berry. get ready
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britain, here we go . britain, here we go. how long before labour mps are billing the taxpayer for botox and facelifts? next . and facelifts? next. >> good evening. i'm sophia wenzler with your headlines. just after 10:00. rachel reeves has accused the last conservative government of choking off investment and suffocating growth in living standards. in her speech at labour's conference in liverpool today. but not before she faced a protester. we are still selling arms to israel. >> thank you . >> thank you. >> thank you. >> he accused labour of selling arms to israel before being removed with shouts of free palestine heard from backstage. getting back on track, the
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chancellor declared labour is a party that represents working people, not a party of protest, earning her a standing ovation . earning her a standing ovation. she went on to promise to repay the trust of voters and set out what her first budget on the 30th of october will focus on. >> so it will be a budget with real ambition, a budget to fix the foundations, a budget to deliver the change that we promised a budget to rebuild britain. and my budget will keep our manifesto commitments . every our manifesto commitments. every choice we make will be within a framework of economic and fiscal stability. you'd expect nothing less . we said we would not less. we said we would not increase taxes on working people , increase taxes on working people, which is why we will not increase the basic, higher or additional rates of income tax, national insurance or vat. additional rates of income tax, national insurance or vat . and national insurance or vat. and we will cap corporation tax at its current level for the duration of this parliament. >> now to the middle east, where 492 people have been killed and more than 1000 left wounded in the most widespread wave of israeli airstrikes against hezbollah in the last year.
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residents in southern lebanon reported receiving calls this morning telling them to evacuate, with warnings also broadcast across lebanese media. meanwhile, israel's prime minister has sent a message to the lebanese people saying his country's war is not with you, it's with hezbollah . and back in it's with hezbollah. and back in the uk, a mother and daughter have been jailed for more than three years in total for taking part in a riot while out walking the family dog. 52 year old amanda walton and 24 year old megan davison admitted violent disorder during disturbances in middlesbrough on the 4th of august. video played in court showed davison jumping on the roof of a red car, while walton was seen throwing something. the judge jailed walton for 22 months and her daughter davison for 20 months. now some breaking news in the last hour. a 40 year old woman and an eight year old girl have been found dead at a home in greater manchester. police said they were
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investigating the circumstances after the two bodies were found at an address in salford. police added they are not actively looking for anyone else in relation to the investigation . relation to the investigation. and nurses in england have rejected the government's offer of a 5.5% pay rise. two thirds of a 5.5% pay rise. two thirds of royal college of nursing members voted against the deal, in a record turnout of 145,000. the pay award was announced in july, shortly after labour's general election win. the ch's general election win. the ch's general secretary says nursing staff are determined to for stand up themselves, their patients and the nhs while pushing for reforms. those are the latest gb news headlines for now. now it's back to patrick for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts .
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forward slash alerts. >> every single day, the labour party's donor gate gets worse. but we might finally have the answer as to what mega bucks labour gift giver lord alli got for his money. it's been revealed that a top figure who selected labour candidates at the last election was a man called matt faulding , and he was called matt faulding, and he was working on secondments at lord alli office before the election . alli office before the election. so the link between lord alli and fielding raises questions, doesn't it, over whether lord alli had influence over which labour mps were selected and which may be in a position now where many new labour mps think they owed their jobs to him? he was then given a pass to downing street and reportedly allowed to sit in on meetings. now we have put this to lord alli and we are yet to hear back from him. if true , it would also leave our
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true, it would also leave our chancellor, rachel reeves, with 999 chancellor, rachel reeves, with egg on her face for comments like this. >> we are also making sure we are getting a grip of cronyism because i think what really grates is that people donate and then they get something in return. and what we saw during the pandemic was people who had donated to the conservative party, then getting government contracts, government money for things like ppe . things like ppe. >> well, we can tell that labour are massively rattled by donor gate because they're now even throwing their own children under the bus when it comes to their freebies . their freebies. >> i'll be honest, it was a hard one to turn down. i appreciate there was big demand for the tickets. it was a privilege to be there. one of my children, you know, was a keen to go along. it's hard to say no if you're offered tickets in those circumstances. >> my declarations, you'll see. >> my declarations, you'll see. >> i don't think i've accepted very much at all. i did take my children to see taylor swift, which was more for them than it was for me. >> so wes streeting has tried to
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claim that gifts like taylor swift tickets are just the same as giving to charity. >> i'm really proud of people who want to contribute, not just their time and volunteering, but their time and volunteering, but their money to our politics. >> it is a noble pursuit, just like giving to charity . like giving to charity. >> i know that keir starmer's tanking in the polls. he's now more unpopular than rishi sunak was, but i think he's a bit harsh to call him a charity case, isn't it angela rayner? well, she's had clothes, she's had new york apartments and now she's after 68 grand from the taxpayer. for a vanity photographer to make her look better, reportedly. what next? labour mps invoicing the taxpayer for botox and teeth whitening to make them look better. if only there was a tweet. if only there was a tweet showing that she's a hypocrite. oh, actually, yeah, there it is. she thinks that boris should have prioritised feeding children. many people think that she should prioritise feeding pensioners and keeping them warm this winter. keir starmer has even wheeled out left winger gary neville to do a bit of
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rearguard action. >> it's incredible that this level of attention is now being paid to a labour prime minister. when i look at the absolute cronyism that we want to three years under that , it was just years under that, it was just like god . like god. >> well, hang on a minute, gary, because labour's largest donor at the last election was a cayman islands based hedge fund that apparently invests in arms manufacturing , private manufacturing, private healthcare and fossil fuels, a fact which was only revealed last week. that would be almost as hypocritical as look, hey, i don't know, taking money for helping to promote the qatar world cup. labour are on the rack here. okay and these are the important questions for me now. did lord alli have influence over labour candidates being selected at the last election? and did he get a downing street pass for his money? was keir starmer complicit in that? what has that cayman islands based hedge fund got for their money? those are the more serious things. but on
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a more personal level, what does it say that labour mps are content to throw their own kids under the bus to defend a freebie? and how do you feel about paying for a photographer to make angela rayner look better? well, there may well be a big scandal here. at the very least, there appears to be massive hypocrisy. let's get thoughts on my panel. we've got political commentator and broadcaster emma webb. we've got journalist and commentator benjamin butterworth and the former chairman of the tory party sir jake berry. former chairman of the tory party sirjake berry. oh, gosh, there goes my earpiece. sorry about that, jake. i'll start with you on this one, because you have some personal experience of being actually inside and around downing street when it comes to lord alli. okay. do you think that maybe there is there is an implication that he's had some kind of say over who's been selected to be labour mps? is that what he's got for his money? >> well, clearly someone who works for him has been in a very important role of selecting labour mps just before a general election. and let's just put this into context. what happens
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if a surprise general election is called as it was suddenly lots of safe seats become available either in the conservative party or the labour party and the person who basically picks the candidate to go into those safe seats is very, very powerful. and we learned today that that was someone on secondment, i believe, from lord ali's office. it certainly looks bad. he's obviously a very, very influential person within the labour party. not only does he now have keir starmer, angela raynen now have keir starmer, angela rayner, lots of people in the in the cabinet who have been the beneficiary of the largesse from his giving, but also now probably dozens of newly elected labour mps , probably in some of labour mps, probably in some of their safer seats. these people will be in parliament for decades who probably owe him one. it's very, very fishy. >> this looks awful, benjamin, doesn't it? it looks absolutely awful. it looks as though and again, you know, we've reached out to ali for comment on this. and i imagine that he would vociferously deny this is yet to get back to us. but, you know, it's easy to pose the question, isn't it, really, that did he
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give a load of money to a variety of different people? and then was he in a position to be able to select which candidates he wanted? those people might owe him something . he wanted? those people might owe him something. is he wanted? those people might owe him something . is that maybe owe him something. is that maybe where all the money has gone for that level of influence ? that level of influence? >> no. i mean, look, i have to declare my interest that i know all the people involved in, in your monologue and have done for some time, and the idea that what you described is what's going on is incredibly insulting. what you've got here are people that saw the useless mess that the labour party under jeremy corbyn was, that it wasn't helping any of the people, that they went into politics for, that it was losing elections, that the country was being run into the ground and they worked, whether with the finance of lord alli, who has funded both labour and other causes for a very long time, he was appointed to the house of lords in the 1990s, and they have worked meticulously to throw out the hard left. that did nothing for the labour party and nothing for this country,
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and nothing for this country, and get sensible, capable people selected as labour who they've chosen. >> and they were sorry. he might have chosen them. >> then you think, you say, no, i did not say that in any way to clarify, benjamin, on something really important here. >> so you started that by saying that you appeared to know everyone that was named in that monologue there. so, you know, lord alli, i've met him many times and interviewed him. >> yeah. >> yeah. >> right. okay. and then you followed that up by saying that his main desire was to try to get more. no, no, no, no, i was i was talking about. >> no, no, no, that's not what i said. >> he gave money and then he helped get the candidates that helped get the candidates that he wanted in. some people would argue that's not what i said. >> that's not what i said. i said these people, these people in organisations within the labour party have worked to get rid of the hard left. and they did that because they wanted labour to be able to do its job as a functioning political party in that position, out of interest. >> benjamin, was it a load of money? >> it wasn't lord alli that was that was doing that. he wasn't selecting people, but it was. the fact is that all political, all political parties need to be funded by private donors. that's the system we have. and it is completely wrong to suggest these people were doing it for
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some kind of favour. no, they were doing it because the labour party was useless and had to get sensible people in. and there was a massive chairman of a political party. >> there is nothing more sensitive than who are selecting your candidates. no other political party that i'm aware of has put a donor in the position of sending someone over from his office who knows whether unstructured. i simply don't know. but no other political party has basically said to a someone from a donors office, you choose the next generation of mps . that is not generation of mps. that is not normal. that is not part of the normal. that is not part of the normal political to and fro in this country. it is very, very odd your view on this. >> that's not what happened. >> that's not what happened. >> i just think it is what happened. >> it's not it's not. matt, 40, worked for the labour party for many years. he didn't. >> he was on secondment. >> he was on secondment. >> he's a terrible misogynist. >> he's a terrible misogynist. >> benjamin not letting me get a word in edgewise. i'm only joking , now, now don't get. joking, now, now don't get. >> i'm not saying anything. >> i'm not saying anything. >> so you speak. i just think it's. i just think it's extraordinary. i mean, it's incredible. they try. they try to pitch themselves as being the party of ethics and propriety, propriety. and now they're saying, well, you know, we
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didn't break the rules. well, i mean, maybe you should have higher standards than just simply abiding by the rules. if those are what the rules are, then perhaps you should be criticising what the rules are within our political system and maybe do something to change that. if you if you, unless you of course want to make the argument that it is appropriate to do all of these things. and the thing is that, you know, ultimately they're getting a taste of their own medicine. they would have done exactly the same with the conservative party, and they did. and now they're having and gary neville is completely wrong, because the level of scrutiny on the previous government was sort of off the charts. it was it was never ending. it was every single week after week after week, there was something else. and now we're seeing that happen within the labour party because of a political culture that they created that leads to this kind of scrutiny and scrutiny isn't a bad thing, but the way that they're reacting to it isn't principled. it'sjust, they're reacting to it isn't principled. it's just, well, oh, those are the rules , and they're those are the rules, and they're not holding themselves to the same standards that they would hold a conservative government to. and i think the british pubuc to. and i think the british public can see not only that that's ridiculous, but also that that's ridiculous, but also that that's laughable because people don't have such a short memory that they can't remember the
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sorts of principles that they profess to be campaigning on. >> yeah, it's this, this business of what did people get for their money and people have been scratching their heads about this. and lord alli may well deny that he's had any influence, i imagine, i imagine that he will deny it. benjamin, you're very strong on the idea that he hasn't, you know, and i don't want to go around. >> you can't seem to understand. and i get this because after years of tories who've handed out public money to donors, you know, the cash for contracts dunng know, the cash for contracts during covid was obscene. did it go down the street past benjamin because he's been a labour adviser for years, and he's a labour member of the house of lords? >> well, why did they retract it the second that it was scrutiny on it? >> well, because because they thought it was a bad look and they didn't want it to be perceived in the way that people like you are trying to perceive, not just this labour government. we've had years of cronyism. you can't understand cronyism. there are some people that care about this country, that care about the cause of the labour party. and if money is the way they can help, then they're doing it. but it doesn't mean they're getting special deals. cash for cronies, isn't it? >> this labour government, 11 weeks in is dripping with sleaze and freebies. the british public
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can see they are look, they are literally you know, even on their own figures, 4000 pensioners could potentially die this year because they're taking the winter fuel payments at the same time. well it may not be correct. it's a labour press release. so it probably is nonsense, but it is their own press release. benjamin doesn't like in the same time that they're taking taylor swift tickets and going, well, it's okay, because my kids wanted them. i thought the grownups were in charge. apparently it's the children now of labour ministers who decide what donations they take. this is sleazy. beyond belief, and the british public can see tory mps with the exact same event. >> i'm going to bring it. i'm going to bring everyone in now. you know, how pathetic is it to see two high flying labour mps, their ministers, throwing their own children under the bus because they went to labour, they went to a taylor swift concert. it's pathetic. >> i mean, what kind of parent would do that would say, oh, well, you know, my child really wants to go . so i felt that wants to go. so i felt that i must i was just compelled. i had to take the tickets because otherwise what there would have
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been trouble at home. your children would have had a strop that you weren't allowed to go, rather than maybe you're using it as an exercise in explaining to your children the principles of the politics that you might wish that we had, which is where we don't take these sorts of free gifts and fill our boots when we have the opportunity to. now, i'm not actually criticising them for taking those tickets or even if they declare the gifts, fine. but the point is hypocrisy, because they would criticise the conservatives for this . and to conservatives for this. and to benjamin's point, it's not that he's a labour peer and has been an advisor for many, many years. it's also that he's a donor and that means it's compromising. >> so to clarify, if you are a donor to a party, you only have an ulterior motive. >> no, i'm saying that you have to have certain certain ethics around that hedge fund. >> i mean , they're notoriously >> i mean, they're notoriously altruistic. are they? >> well, the fact is that if you think that these various companies don't worry, rachel reevesis companies don't worry, rachel reeves is going to clamp down on tax avoidance love in their hearts and mind. >> gave the labour party £4 million just out of the. they thought, you know what of all
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that we do we do, we do like dabbung that we do we do, we do like dabbling in a bit of arms manufacturing. we like private health care. we like fossil fuels. but this £4 million will just give out the goodness of our hearts to the labour party. like, as wes streeting would say, a charity. >> but hang on, you know, you talk about all those things and yet labour has already announced that it's not having new oil drilling licences. so clearly that money isn't buying influence. now obviously there are organisations and funds that do give money because they want to be in in a good place with the government. that has always been the case. okay. and that is not that's certainly not what happens with lord alli. but clearly there are there are outlets that do it in order to get in bed with the government and clear it all up. and that is hang on. >> sorry, sorry. hang on a minute. lord alli has been the centre of a storm now for the last best part of two weeks. why doesn't he just come out and talk about it? why doesn't he just come out? well, let me tell you. interview and put the whole thing to bed because he never gives interviews. >> i've interviewed him and it was extremely rare. he doesn't like to. >> so he does give interviews to. why don't you interview him? he can clear it up straight
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away. >> he's had about two interviews in ten years. the man is very private. he cares about the labour party in a sensible government. and it is. >> he might have had a say over who was selected. >> no, i did not say that at any point he might have done. i said that the fact is we have a system of political, of politics where you have private people funding political parties. now, everything you say, the only logical conclusion is that you think the state should fund them. if you don't think private individuals or companies should, do you know what with this, with this labour party, angela rayner's taxpayer funded photographer points the camera at the cabinet, say sleaze. >> that's what it's all about. all right. >> well, well, well, look. >> well, well, well, look. >> hey , there we go. well, it's >> hey, there we go. well, it's a it's a strong start to the hour. a it's a strong start to the hour . like a it's a strong start to the hour. like i've said, you know, lord alli is not here to defend himself. there is, as it stands, absolutely no indication of wrongdoing whatsoever. there are simply a series of questions that i think, are you know, willing to be posed. right. and that's all that we are doing. we have reached out to him for comment and that, as they say, is that coming up at 1030, me and my press pack bring you the very first look at tomorrow's newspaper front pages with full analysis. plus, national trust bosses apparently have said that 70% of their staff are
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progressive activists and less than a quarter are proud of their country. can these people be trusted to preserve our nation's heritage? but up next, i'll show you a leaked video from a just stop oil meeting with activists complaining that they aren't popular and that they aren't popular and that they didn't go far enough. when will they learn? stay tuned
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hello. welcome back. now, a leaked clip of a meeting between just stop oil activists shows eco warriors complaining that their fellow greenies hadn't put enough effort to in disruptive activities in the last phase of their campaigning. so we've got this video and audio for you now. so let's take a little look and listen . and listen. >> do have some agency, but they know if they take action it will lead to them being disappeared or shot or killed in some other interesting way. i have to be honest with you, i, i was quite disappointed with the number of people that took action in the last action phase, and i understand there are very many reasons for that, but i've had to process my own negative emotions in relation to what happened because i know that our superpower is numbers. we live in a repressive environment at the moment, but as ordinary people, we have power in collective action. we have power in numbers. that's where our power lies . power lies. >> so this apparently
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insufficient activity to led five of their activists actually getting jail time at the time, with their founder, roger hallam, getting five years behind bars. that was after a massive blockade of the m25 caused 51,000 hours of driver delays over four days. so why on earth do these eco zealots not realise that actions do have consequences? but i'm very grateful actually to be joined now by environmental lawyer and campaigner for defend our juries is tim crosland. tim, look, thank you very much for coming on. great to have you on the show. and look, first things first, just at the start of what that lady said, which unless i've misheard this , it appeared i've misheard this, it appeared to say that activists just stop oil risk being disappeared or shotif oil risk being disappeared or shot if they take part in campaigning. is that the kind of, i suppose, conspiracy theory that's being pumped out to people ? people? >> i think that that's that's true about what happens around the world. i don't think that's
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true about what happens in this country. but certainly we've got a lot of evidence of activists opposing oil interests in, in various parts of the world who are shot every year. there's an ngo, global witness, who tracks the numbers . and it's hundreds the numbers. and it's hundreds of activists who are killed around the world. >> so i assume that's what i just wondered. tim, whether or not that plays into the psychology of it, though, really? because if you if people genuinely believe that what they are doing is a matter of life and death here and that they are, they are running the risk of being shot or the government making them disappear. if they spray a bit of orange paint over something, then that maybe feeds into a sense of narcissism that we see from some of these people . we see from some of these people. >> well, as i say, i think that was a comment about people around the world rather than in the uk. it is true that in the last couple of months , dozens last couple of months, dozens and dozens of british activists have been jailed for taking peaceful action, and you will have seen as well. at the same
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time, we've had people released early from jail, having committed violent and sexual offences, who then recommit offences. the same day. so that is certainly true. i mean, i don't know, i can't speak for what someone else was referring to. there were lots of people who've been jailed in the last two months in this country. yes, >> just just on the idea there that she seemed to be expressing a bit of disappointment for a poor turnout, as it were, does that maybe indicate that actually support is waning for the things that just stop oil do that people maybe see them now as a bit more of an annoyance than anything else? >> i think the movement constantly changes shape and it constantly changes shape and it constantly evolves and of course, i mean, there are a lot of people who are nervous now about what you can do in this country without going to jail. we've had people jailed just for walking along whitehall for 15 minutes, someone called stephen gingell was jailed for six months after 15 minutes of a
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walk along whitehall, so i think maybe that does have an impact. and we then need to think about what kind of country we're creating. if people are afraid to challenge, alternative views. >> yeah . i mean, look, obviously >> yeah. i mean, look, obviously it's not just walking, is it? at times we've seen we've seen quite a lot of stuff going on where they've, you know, either committed criminal damage or potentially as well got in the way of people getting hospital appointments, etcetera. i'm actually quite intrigued. i absolutely do not want to refer, as i'm sure neither do you to any active ongoing court cases at the moment in time. however, i am intrigued by, by a general defence and i would i would quite like your your legal mind on this because is it right that some of the people try to claim that they, they are not guilty on the grounds of the fact that the world is going to end as a result of climate change and that they need to be doing the kind of actions that they are doing now by doing things like gluing themselves to something.
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>> oh for sure. yes. i mean that that has traditionally been a defence in all kinds of things where you say you're trying to do one thing to stop a greater harm . so just to take a, you harm. so just to take a, you know, a basic legal, legal defence, somebody breaks a car window in a car park and the first thing you might imagine is they're committing a crime. and then it turns out they're breaking the window because the windows were fully rolled up and it was a hot day. and there was a child in the car, or there was a child in the car, or there was a dog in the car, and they're breaking the window to save the dog or the child. well that's a defence in law. >> and does that work for these? because because that's that. look, hey, you know that this stuff goes to a jury or it goes to a judge depending on what court it's in. and that's that's for them to make their minds up about. and that's the legal system that we've got. but i think a lot of people might be quite concerned at that because, you know, if that is the case, that could be quite a slippery slope that anybody who feels justified enough in whatever caused that may be. now, that
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might be something absolutely heinous. it might be something absolutely horrendous. it might be something like , you know, be something like, you know, angus breivik or whatever. he was called that norwegian guy that killed a load of people. he obviously had his own cause. right completely warped cause in his mind. but, you know, could someone like him try and argue that that defence, that these eco lot use, which is that we were doing this because we are trying to prevent a greater harm to humanity? >> well, in my opinion, he wouldn't get very far if he did, because we've got a system in this country, trial by jury, that brings the moral common sense of ordinary people into the courtroom . and i believe in the courtroom. and i believe in the courtroom. and i believe in the common sense of ordinary people in particular. you bring people in particular. you bring people together and put them into a situation where everybody bnngs into a situation where everybody brings their different experience and knowledge of the world. i don't think that defence would get very far. so if you conceivably, if you had a jury if you conceivably, if you had a jury of , very environmentally jury of, very environmentally minded people and you offered up that defence, which is that we, you know, brought a private jet
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to a halt at heathrow airport, or did something else on the grounds of the fact that we think the world's going to incinerate itself, then you reckon there's quite a good chance that those people would be found not guilty. >> but if people committed the same crime. but they happen to have a jury of people who don't think the world's going to end because of climate change, that they probably would be found guilty. is that not a bit of a problem, do you think? because it's not really the same, doesn't really seem like it's equality before the law then? >> well, well, well, it's not it's not about reckoning. it's about the evidence. because we've had a lot of these trials now, so we can actually look and see what happens. and when people have been able to put the science in front of the jury and a jury is randomly selected, it's almost like a perfect little oasis of democracy because it's totally random. so you're not going to get 12 members of the green party on a jury, members of the green party on a jury, just as you're not going to get 12 members of reform on a jury, to get 12 members of reform on a jury, you're going to get a mix because it's random selection. and when those juries have been allowed to see evidence of the science and what the scientists
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have predicted for decades and decades, and when they've seen the evidence of the cover up by by oil corporations and the very deliberate attempts to conceal that evidence from the public over many decades, hiring the same pr companies that the tobacco industry hired to cast doubt on the link between tobacco and lung cancer. and they've seen that the government has failed to listen to the science and has, in fact, acted on the lobbyists. those jurors have often broken down in tears to see what has been happening in this country. and that's led to not guilty verdicts. what has since happened. and i think this is a bit of a scandal, is lobbyists for the oil and arms industry have been in touch with government ministers, and those defences have been removed. and now juries are not allowed to hear that evidence. and now we're starting to get guilty verdicts. >> i think that's no, i think that's, that's, that's really fascinating that that is a really fascinating insight. right. and one i've been hoping to give to our viewers and listeners for quite a good time
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now about what kind of goes on in this, in these courtrooms, because then it doesn't necessarily become a question of criminal damage or not. it becomes a question of which science do you believe or what do you believe, etc. but look, thank you very much and we are out of time, i'm afraid. but i did thoroughly enjoy that conversation, that is, tim crosland there, who is a campaigner for defend our juries and environmental lawyer as well. right. coming up, national trust bosses say that 70% of their staff are quotes progressive activists and less than a quarter are proud of their country. can these people be trusted to preserve our nation's heritage? but next. yes myself and my press we will pick through the very first
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all right. welcome back to patrick christys tonight. and i have got the very first look at tomorrow's front pages now. so let's do it. we're going to start us off tonight with the daily mail union boss. we will seize control of the uk economy. it's a chilling threat. this from the rmt's militant leader
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mick lynch. he said that union barons are going to seize control of the economy now that their friends are in power and their friends are in power and the uk's economy is at the mercy of the trade union, supposedly. so that's quite a big one that, from the mail. let's go to the ai. reeves looks at cutting benefits to fund public spending boost. chancellor rachel reeves is considering cutting cuts to welfare spending in order to allocate more for long term investment. as she prepares to draw up a money saving budget. if we wiz ourselves over to the guardian, the prime minister has vowed to end the gloom as labour seeks to lift spending restrictions. keir starmer will cast off the gloom that has dominated his early days in power and build a new britain, apparently, apparently he's going to tweak the fiscal rules to allow more capital spending, there we go. the times has got labour to crack down on benefits. fraudsters starmer's new law will let investigators access suspect's bank details and seize property. it's quite
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interesting this, isn't it, because this is this is conceivably on paper at least, a very big crackdown, the likes of which that the tories would have been called the nasty party for doing. but apparently he's announcing plans to root out benefit fraudsters by giving investigators new powers. i mean, look, i'm i'm here for that. if they do that, then fantastic. maybe we can let the pensioners off. the daily telegraph. light at the end of the tunnel. the prime minister tells britain tax rises and short term pain are the only way to achieve prosperity. he says there is also a picture there of labour's million pound donor breaking cover at lord alli. there apparently at the labour conference in liverpool yesterday. it's quite funny. he's clutching some spectacles there, which the daily mail have actually made a bit more of a virtue of. they're circling them because, of course, he is supposedly responsible for keir starmer getting some nice new specs. but there we go. that's the first tranche of your front pages. but i'm going to reintroduce my panel now because there's a story that's not on there's a story that's not on the front pages, but we thought we would bring to you, which i think is quite interesting. 70% of national trust staff are,
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quote, progressive activists. apparently. that's according to the charity's director general. and that was a labour party fringe event run by more in common. so hilary mcgrady said, the reality is, i would say that 70% of my staff and volunteers would be regarded as progressive activists. now more in common's research revealed only 22% of quotes progressive activists are proud of being british, significantly lower than the 59% national average. so mcgrady's comments come after the national trust found itself facing a growing number of accusations about wokeness and tanking membership figures, so can these people really be trusted to preserve our nation's heritage? emma, i know you. you care deeply about our national heritage. the idea that 70% of people at the national trust are are woke progressive activists. is that a problem? >> yes. and it explains a lot, doesn't it? i mean, we've seen so many stories over the years. one of the big ones was that they released and funded this report into their own properties, putting several properties, putting several properties on the naughty step, including churchill's house,
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chartwell. in one of them, they put wordsworth on the list because he tangentially had a brother who was on. i think it was an east india company ship to china or somewhere so very tangentially related . but that's tangentially related. but that's the point, is that i think, you know, the issue is that our the people who are supposed to be the custodians of our heritage , the custodians of our heritage, probably, i mean, many of these people, if they are such progressive activists, are sort of inclined towards the vandalism. and i don't mean physically, but i mean that the kind of, you know, repudiation, rejection and denigration of our cultural heritage and the national trust properties. and if ever people have been to them, the people who are on the ground, the volunteers are wonderful, really, really passionate people who care about those properties. and people love going to national trust properties. but the fact that there are so many people who are in the institution, like in all of our institutions and museums, who hate the heritage they're supposed to be looking after, is a massive problem. >> i do find that odd, isn't it? if you are an ultra progressive activist, benjamin , why? why activist, benjamin, why? why would you choose to work at the
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national trust? i find that a bit odd. unless you wanted to stick a plaque under everything that said, you know, here be a racist . racist. >> and i mean , i think it shows >> and i mean, i think it shows that clearly they're not the parody that is trying to be painted, that these are people that care a great deal about our national heritage and about these properties and gardens and all the rest of it. but also, you know, they don't necessarily think all of those things that were stated in a completely separate poll of people that define that way. and i'm guessing the director general of the national trust hasn't actually checked how many people have particular politics. she was just plucking a number out of the air. the idea you're really suggesting is that if you believe in social justice, as i do, and maybe some of these staff do, that somehow they shouldn't work at the national trust. i think it's fantastic that they care about the future of this country as well as the past. >> what do you reckon to this idea that, you know, one of the heads here of the national trust is some labour fringe event boasting about how 70% of their staff are progressive activists? >> well, i'm just not surprised
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that they've lost. i think it's 80,000 members from their membership. i think 89,000, because actually a lot of people who are members of the national trust will be small c conservative. that doesn't mean they vote for the conservative party, but they tend to be slightly older. they love our country . they probably, dare i country. they probably, dare i say, watch brilliant channels like gb news, and to have the organisation at such odds with their values. i think , is why their values. i think, is why they're losing membership so quickly. of course, the national trust is a membership organisation. no members, no national trust go woke, go broke. it's time for them to start representing their members views rather than the narrow subset of views from people who happen to take pay rises to and be fair, to be fair, a former chair of the tory party would know a lot about haemorrhaging members. >> oh, there he is . he's members. >> oh, there he is. he's going to clap back on that. >> no, i don't think they left when i was there. >> okay. fair enough. yeah. it's interesting though isn't it. the national trust have you got you know, you've got all these wonderful buildings and wonderful buildings and wonderful things that are supposed to be there preserving it just seem a little bit odd
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that we have this kind of ultra progressive nonsense going on there. i think i've got time to just squeeze in one more story. i will go back on to the front of the daily telegraph because it is a big one. i know we've spoken about it a bit on the channel already today, but pubs may have to call last orders early in a fresh nanny state blow so emma, again, i'll defer to you on this, but the pubs could be forced to close their doors early. apparently it's a move to, to roll back the continental cafe style of drinking introduced by sir tony blair. but what does all of this really mean? you're going to have to be locked up indoors by 9 pm. >> it's the exact opposite of what this country needs. london is dead when people come from other countries, from other european countries, they're shocked by how bad the nightlife here is. when i was in madrid, the city felt like it was alive, you know, it's the same thing in rome. it feels. >> ask you to leave, though, didn't they? >> but the. i don't know what you mean, benjamin, but i you know, i feel like so many people have commented on how bad the nightlife has become in london. this is going to be the death of pubs. and that with the smoking ban as well, to ban people from
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smoking in pub gardens, it's just, you know, they're just fun thieves, you know, they, they think it's not just yeah, it's not just a london thing, you know, it's like presumably it's rural pubs and places like that as well that could really benefit from the idea of a nightlife that goes on beyond 9 or 10. so the government of victor meldrew, can we come in just a few days after it was suggested by another think tank that we reduce the size of the great british pint, i think by a third, which would be an absolute disgrace. >> this really is this. this is just symptomatic of a government, and it doesn't matter whether it's conservative or labour, it's a government led by civil servants who are obsessed, addicted to telling people to what do. that's not the sort of britain i want to live in. i want to live in a free society. >> all the polling says that thatis >> all the polling says that that is the type of country most people would like. i absolutely hate it. i hate this idea. i hate it. i hate this idea. i hate the control on drinking and all the rest of it. but most people in this country would like the idea of less disturbance. >> that's nonsense. there's no way people aren't libertarians. >> they love rules. >> they love rules. >> well, it never it never ceased to amaze me when i where
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iused ceased to amaze me when i where i used to live up in the lake district, how there was a couple that bought a house next door to a pub and used to drink in that pub before they bought that house. and then when they bought it, they campaigned to have that pub's opening hours shortened because they didn't like the noise. and i just thought, why do that? it's like people who buy houses next to churches and then complain about bells. >> that's why we have terms like nosy parkers to raise it on, i'm afraid. >> british tradition coming up, coming up. we've got more front pages, we've got a viral as well. and also i've
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okay. welcome back. we've got some more front pages for you now. so we're going to start this round with the daily express fury as labour silences winter fuel pay debate. cowardly starmer stalls vote on scrapping cruel cut for pensioners. let's go to the metro. e—bike crime boom. police seize 83% more. apparently the e—bike seizures by police have almost doubled in a year amid a growing threat to
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pedestrians. so there we go. the sun nick. strictly sos. so apparently strictly's nick knowles will find out this morning if he can dance on after injuring his left arm while changing a tire while the nation holds its breath, doesn't it? let's go to the mirror. victory for truth and justice. exclusive labour's new legislation to support victims of cover ups. apparently, keir starmer will today, which is tomorrow for us, vow to bring in a hillsborough law to stop state cover ups denying victims justice. interesting, because he is in liverpool as well with the conference. >> so that's also interesting that they blocked the hillsborough inquiry for so long when they were last in government. >> well, there you go. something that no doubt will be raised probably on tomorrow's show, i imagine. so as you can see, i'm joined yet again by my wonderful press pack here and now we do have a bit of time because i'm a bit pressed for time, but we do have a little bit of time to talk about some political pets. and the reason i'm doing this is because we've got keir starmer's
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new pet, haven't we? the new cat. keir starmer's new cat. so there it is i believe on your screens right now. lovely stuff . screens right now. lovely stuff. and but i thought well can anyone here name who these other people are. okay. who these other pets are. so we have if we can if we can rattle through i think we've got rishi sunak's dog. there we go. does anyone remember the dog's name? >> ruby. >> ruby. >> i barely remember rishi sunak's name. >> is it ruby? no guesses. the dog was called nova. no. all right. okay. we'll go and go to bofis right. okay. we'll go and go to boris johnson's dog, dylan. dylan dylan. yeah. there we go. and now the downing street chief. mouser. the current one we all know. >> larry. larry larry. >> larry. larry larry. >> yeah, that is larry the cat. okay, now we're going to go. we're going to go back in time a bit here because this is larry with his first boss, david cameron. well, we all remember that. cameron. well, we all remember that . but who was the chief that. but who was the chief mouser at the foreign office ? mouser at the foreign office? >> salisbury. >> salisbury. >> you're going for salisbury. anyone remember the name of the cat? the predecessor? no no, no,
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but larry's like 19. palmerston. there you go. palmerston. and he looks like a pastor. who was the downing street chief mouser under thatcher. thatcher, major and blair. you've gone for it. was. it was humphrey. there you are. we've got a couple more. former chancellor geoffrey howe's dog. anyone? now? clue's in the name, chancellor. and what do chancellors deliver? a budget. there it is. >> it's a terrible name for dog. >> and i think bringing bringing up the rear of this is winston churchill's dog. >> all of them were called rufus. >> rufus the first. rufus the second. both. both. both miniature poodles. and there's a proud standard poodle owner i thoroughly approve. >> they're all buried beside each other as first, second and third. >> really? oh. that's good. all right. now actually, very. finally, we've got speaker lindsay hoyle, pets , all of lindsay hoyle, pets, all of them. right. so i won't get you to all gas on this one, but the dog is betty. we've got a parrot called boris, another rottweiler called boris, another rottweiler called gordon, a tortoise called maggie. cats called patrick, dennis, clem and attlee. so
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there we go. so there we are. i thought that was. i'd just bring you some. bring you some stuff there. and also i was going to show you a clip in fact, i will do it. actually, it's a women's rights activist. kellyj keen being doused in soup again at a rally. and so this is this is the incident i believe we can show you . how are you not shaking? >> i'm shaking. jesus christ. >> i'm shaking. jesus christ. >> yeah. shocking stuff that really, you know. kellyj keen goes out campaigns for women. a lot of regular viewers and listeners to this show will know who she is. and wherever she goes, she kind of runs a gauntlet of abuse almost entirely committed by men. and that was apparently no different. so there we go. and we do just about have time to reveal today's greatest britain's and union jackasses. now we have about a minute on show, so we might just get through greatest britain. but who's yours? >> my greatest britain is the whole reform party for those
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beer lanyards. >> fantastic . go on. benjamin. >> fantastic. go on. benjamin. >> fantastic. go on. benjamin. >> my greatest britain is the victims of mohamed al—fayed who have spoken out. but i also think strongly that the air people and the company execs that allowed him to be able to cover up and continue to do so, they should be prosecuted, too. >> okay , so my greatest britain >> okay, so my greatest britain is robert jenrick, who was happened just to be running past the photographer wearing a t shirt saying hamas are terrorists. >> i'm not quite sure that he should be leader of the conservative party, but i think he's got guts to do that. >> not paid for by the taxpayer, i imagine. >> well, there we go. it might have been a gift. we don't know. but. all right, look, really strong choices. i have gone for robert jenrick for the hamas terrorists. we haven't got time to do the union jack, unfortunately. but thank you very much, everybody for a wonderful show. much appreciated. and thank you very much, everybody who's watching and listening. headliners are up next. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar, sponsors of weather on gb news .
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news. >> thanks for joining news. >> thanks forjoining me news. >> thanks for joining me for your latest weather updates from the met office here on gb news. it's been another very wet day, but the rain will at least be easing for many areas overnight and generally much drier day tomorrow. although there will still be some rain across scotland, scotland, northern ireland been largely dry today. it's been across england and wales where we've had the heavy and persistent rain from this area of low pressure still. met office yellow weather warning remains in place as that rain does start to ease from central parts, but staying pretty soggy across eastern england. well into the night. drier elsewhere, but we will see some rain just creeping into northern scotland. temperatures in scotland , with temperatures in scotland, with some clearer skies dipping to single figures, but most staying in double digits. on to tuesday. overall, a much , much drier day, overall, a much, much drier day, particularly where we've seen the heavy and persistent rain today over these central areas, it will be a wetter day though, in northern scotland and with the wind coming in from the north—east. feeling pretty cool as that rain sets in across the moray firth in particular. a few scattered showers coming into
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northern ireland during the morning, and the odd one over northern england too, and the remnants of today's rain still clinging to the coasts around east anglia and kent. but generally speaking, across england and wales are much, much dner england and wales are much, much drier day. thankfully, compared to today. the rain will keep going across northeastern scotland. if you see a few more showers coming into southeast scotland and across northern england and north wales too, across the midlands, southern england quite a bit of cloud, but some bright spells coming through a bit of sunshine in northern ireland as possible. also on the cool side. temperatures struggling up into the low, teens across the north, maybe high teens further south. a chilly start to wednesday, by and large. a dry start , but we and large. a dry start, but we will see more rain creeping in from the southwest as the day goes on. some showers in northern scotland, but many areas dry and bright for much of the morning until this next area of rain comes in. and that is a sign of things to come for much of this week, before things then turn colder towards the end of the week .
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>> good evening. i'm sophia wenzler with your headlines at 11:00. the prime minister will tell the people .ofbritain there tell the people .of britain there is light at the end of this tunnel, but they must first join a shared struggle through tough, short term pressures. in his first labour party conference
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speech as prime minister, sir keir starmer will say he wants to build a new britain, but he will warn there are no easy answers and he could not offer false hope about the challenges ahead. false hope about the challenges ahead . meanwhile, rachel reeves ahead. meanwhile, rachel reeves has accused the last conservative government of choking off investment and suffocating growth and living standards . suffocating growth and living standards. in her suffocating growth and living standards . in her speech at standards. in her speech at labour's conference in liverpool today, but not before she faced a protester. we are still selling arms to israel . he selling arms to israel. he accused labour of selling arms to israel before being removed with shouts of free palestine heard from backstage. getting back on track, the chancellor declared labour as a party that represents working people, not a party of protest, earning her a standing ovation. she went on to promise to repay the trust of voters and set out what her first budget on the 30th of october, will focus on. >> so it will be a budget with
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real ambition, a budget to fix the foundations, a budget to deliver the change that we promised a budget to rebuild britain. and my budget will keep our manifesto commitments. every choice we make will be within a framework of economic and fiscal stability. you'd expect nothing less. we said we would not increase taxes on working people, which is why we will not increase the basic, higher or additional rates of income tax, national insurance or vat, and we will cap corporation tax at its current level for the duration of this parliament to the middle east. >> now where? 492 people have been killed and more than 1000 left wounded in the most widespread wave of israeli airstrikes against hezbollah in the last year. residents in southern lebanon reported receiving calls this morning telling them to evacuate, with warnings also broadcast across lebanese media. meanwhile, israel's prime minister has sent a message to the lebanese people saying his country's war is not with you, it's with hezbollah . with you, it's with hezbollah. in other news, a mother
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