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afternoon britain. it's >> good afternoon britain. it's 12:00 on tuesday, the 24th of september. i'm emily carver and i'm tom harwood live from the labour party conference today in liverpool, where leader sir keir starmer will be speaking in just liverpool, where leader sir keir starmer will be speaking in just two hours. >> stay tuned to hear what the two hours. >> stay tuned to hear what the labour leader has to say. labour leader has to say. >> yes , indeed. and the home >> yes , indeed. and the home >> yes, indeed. and the home secretary, she's had her say >> yes, indeed. and the home secretary, she's had her say yvette cooper calls the yvette cooper calls the conservatives and reform right conservatives and reform right wing right wing wreckers, wing right wing wreckers, accusing them of making excuses accusing them of making excuses for the mob following the summer for the mob following the summer riots and she says labour will riots and she says labour will continue to back the police. the continue to back the police. the national trust's director national trust's director general has admitted that 70% of general has admitted that 70% of his staff hate the union flag his staff hate the union flag and are progressive activists. and are progressive activists. are you surprised? and a judge are you surprised? and a judge has ruled that prince harry's us has ruled that prince harry's us visa application should remain visa application should remain private, despite him admitting private, despite him admitting to taking drugs in his memoir to taking drugs in his memoir spare. our royal reporter will spare. our royal reporter will tell us leader sir keir tell us . not intensely
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down, saying he's not intensely relaxed about the high levels of migration this country has experienced, not intensely relaxed. >> well, there you go. thank you very much indeed. tom harwood. and please do get in touch at home if you're watching gbnews.com forward slash usa is the way to do so. but let's get the way to do so. but let's get the news headlines with sam francis. >> very good afternoon to you. it's 12:02. the top story from the newsroom this lunchtime. the home secretary says labour is the party of law and order, vowing to crack down on street crime, targeting offenders like street drinkers and shoplifters. opening the third day of the labour conference in liverpool. yvette cooper pledged to introduce ronan's law banning ninja swords that earned her a standing ovation. she also promised buffer zones around abortion clinics, and reiterated labour's plan to halve knife crime in a decade. she went on to condemn riots in southport
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after the deaths of three girls, calling the violence a disgrace, and slammed the conservatives as right wing wreckers who sow division . well light at the end division. well light at the end of the tunnel. that's the message from sir keir starmer as he prepares for his first labour conference speech as prime minister. in around two hours time, he'll outline a vision for national renewal, focusing on faster economic growth , shorter faster economic growth, shorter hospital waiting lists and safer streets, but will also warn of tough short term pressures ahead.the tough short term pressures ahead. the labour leader will also pledge a crackdown on benefit fraud, a reduction in net migration and the introduction of a hillsborough law. the speech, though, comes amid anger over cuts to winter fuel payments and scrutiny of donations to senior labour figures . the government says figures. the government says securing an agreement with striking nurses is an essential step to restoring public services. that's after they yesterday turned down a 5.5% pay rise. two thirds of royal college of nursing members voted
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against the deal, in a record turnout of 145,000. labour minister pat mcfadden insists the government understands the challenge of balancing public spending while trying to treat workers fairly. >> prospects for the country are great britain is a great place in which to invest, and if we can get that message out and get that going, then we can generate the wealth that we need to make people better off and to fund the public services that we all depend on. and the two parts to that story are going to be at the heart of the prime minister's speech this afternoon . minister's speech this afternoon. >> however, the shadow health secretary, victoria atkins, claims the labour government has lost control of public sector pay- lost control of public sector pay. and she told us this morning that pay rises given to junior doctors could have repercussions for nurses and other health care professionals. >> it would have impacts on other healthcare professionals, including nurses and midwives, who would ask quite reasonably well what value does this government put on us? and we are
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now seeing the longer term consequences of that short term decision he made in july to award that inflation busting pay rise to junior doctors with no reform such as i had with consultants, no improvements to productivity. and sadly, we're now seeing the ramifications of that. >> well, we'll just quickly return to the labour conference in liverpool. we're hearing in the last few minutes, in fact, that two youth demand supporters have taken action at that conference by painting the words genocide conference on the front entrance pictures. here. you should be able to see where that youth demand protest has taken place, calling for a two way arms embargo on israel . they're arms embargo on israel. they're also calling on the new labour government to halt any new oil and gas licences granted since 2021 that took place just over an hour ago. as those two supporters walked up to the security check in building where guests have to pass through before attending the conference being held in liverpool. and, as
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i say, sprayed those words genocide conference onto the side of that building before they were, we understand, tackled by police officers and later arrested . in other news, later arrested. in other news, the foreign secretary has joined world leaders today calling for an immediate ceasefire between israel and lebanon as the death toll from israeli airstrikes targeting hezbollah has now surpassed 550. that includes 50 children, half a million people have now fled southern lebanon as the country's health minister confirmed those deaths , and over confirmed those deaths, and over 1600 injuries from the strikes. it's been the deadliest barrage since the war between israel and hezbollah in 2006. in response , hezbollah in 2006. in response, lebanon's fired 55 rockets into northern israel overnight , northern israel overnight, wounding several people. and the uk has also advised british nationals to leave the area immediately, with david lammy warning that any further escalation could, he says, have devastating consequences . a
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devastating consequences. a global it outage in july is back in the spotlight today, as crowdstrike's senior executive faces lawmakers in the us. adam myers will testify before a us subcommittee later to explain how a faulty software update caused widespread disruption for businesses around the world, including aeroplanes and hospitals. the texas based firm has since apologised for what is now regarded as the worst blunder in it history, saying a fix was quickly deployed and promising full transparency . promising full transparency. here. commuters are bracing for more disruption as dozens of flood warnings are still in place across the uk, with more heavy rain on the way. some areas have seen more than a month's worth of rain in just 24 hours, leaving homes damaged and roads impassable. a new yellow weather warning has been issued for thursday, stretching from nottinghamshire to northumberland, with 100mm of rain expected in some areas. the environment agency has also
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issued a number of flood warnings. that's the highest alert level, with strong winds expected across the pennines and the north york moors . and the north york moors. and finally, take a look at this. a skydiver has pulled off a world first stunt combining skydiving and surfing in abu dhabi. sebastian alvarez jumped from the helicopter with a surfboard strapped to his feet , landing strapped to his feet, landing directly on the water. video you can see here shows that incredible feat with alfred alvarez releasing his parachute mid—air and then riding the waves. the adrenaline junkies called the achievement a lifelong dream, blending his love of both skydiving and surfing . those are the latest surfing. those are the latest headunes surfing. those are the latest headlines for now. i'll be back with you just after half past 12 for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code , or go to gbnews.com the qr code, or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts .
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forward slash alerts. >> welcome back to good afternoon britain with me emily carver. well, it's a big day for the prime minister, a big day for the labour party. the context for this speech, this afternoon were just gearing up towards it. it's going to happen at about 2:00. what exactly is he going to say to the nation? there's dona gate wardrobe gate, freebie gate all going on in the background. you've got his personal approval ratings plummeting to their lowest ever. you've also got criticism that he's been far too miserable with previous speeches talking the country down to some extent, but let's cross live to liverpool now, because tom harwood is going to join us from the labour party conference. tom, thank you very much indeed. what can we expect today ? expect today? >> well, it will be just inside this hall where the prime minister will make his speech the same hall where he spoke last year. and i think we'll all
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remember. how can we forget last year , his speech started with year, his speech started with something fairly memorable. a member of the audience running up and dousing the then leader of the opposition in glitter. he had to then take off his jacket and continue with the speech sleeves rolled up. now the big question mark will be will there be that sort of issue again? could there be more protesters at keir starmers speech ? there at keir starmers speech? there certainly were a couple at rachel reeves speech. that will be something to look out for inside the hall. but also, of course, he's going to be trying to deal with big, big themes. we're going to hear a line on migration. we're going to hear stuff about crime. law and order will be a key theme in this speech. so we're told, crucially, we'll be looking out for policy . will the prime for policy. will the prime minister be putting forward clear and identifiable policy to
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try and move forward? really, some of the negative news agenda that has weighed this conference down to some extent, the stories about gifts, the scandals , about about gifts, the scandals, about donations, can he put that behind him ? can he even afford behind him? can he even afford to make light of it? perhaps these are questions all hanging over the prime minister's speech, which , of course, as you speech, which, of course, as you say, is now under two hours time. >> he may address in one way or another the row over freebies, the row over wardrobes being bought and tickets and holidays and apartments. is there any chance he might ? chance he might? >> well, i think it's a very difficult line to balance. obviously if the prime minister opens with a joke about whether or not he paid for his glasses or not he paid for his glasses or his suit, it drags that scandal back to the fore. i think it would probably be inopportune for the prime minister to make such a joke , minister to make such a joke, although obviously it might be very funny. it would have the negative effect of dragging that
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story back to the forefront and dragging that story back to the top of the headlines. i think he'll probably want to put it behind him and move forward and, crucially, crucially, make some announcements on policy. that's one way to move the story on. >> thank you very much indeed. tom harwood there outside the big speech conference hall at labour party conference in liverpool. thank you very much indeed. we await to see what we can expect from keir starmer. but yes, he's going to be talking a little bit about migration, how he wants to get that down, how it trebled under the conservatives. he's also going to be talking about a new law, the hillsborough law, which will put a duty of candour on various authorities and the like to help prevent those types of events from ever happening again. there'll be lots about how it's going to be difficult times before it can get better, but he's going to try and put a positive, positive spin on what he's previously said , which are he's previously said, which are reportedly, well, we've seen a lot of it has actually had a
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massive impact on the economy in terms of consumer confidence, business investment, if you talk down the country too much, people will change their behaviour and become a little more cautious. but i believe we're going to cross back to liverpool because gb news gloria de piero is joined by the labour mp for stoke on trent central, gareth snell. thank you very much indeed, gloria. >> emily, pleasure to see you as even >> emily, pleasure to see you as ever. gareth snell, my former colleague . a pleasure to see colleague. a pleasure to see you. now you lost your seat stoke on trent central in 2019. you're back this time but is your party is this government giving you enough positivity to make you think that you'll hold on next time? i mean , yes, on next time? i mean, yes, i think they are, but it's everyone's it's my to job try and hold my seat as much as the government's. >> but look, we promised change people that resonated with people that resonated with people in communities like stoke on trent. they saw the labour party had changed and now i'm confident that what i've seen at
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this conference, what i've heard from rachel yesterday, what i think we'll hear from keir this afternoon , that that change will afternoon, that that change will begin and i'll be able to demonstrate to my electorate that the faith they put in me and the labour party was not misplaced. >> you know, i'm struggling to understand really what the story of this government is. i'm not clear about who you are, who you stand for. i hear lots about tough decisions, but it just feels a bit gloomy. >> well, look, we are 11 weeks in to what is going to be a five year parliament. as you know, we inherited a 20 billion black hole. we have got an economic problem that we are working hard to solve , but we also do need to to solve, but we also do need to deliver on that change. we need to give people that hope and that optimism that the things they voted for, the things they told me on the doorstep that they wanted to see in their community, in their neighbourhoods, are able to be delivered. and i'm confident with what i heard from rachel yesterday, what i know we're going to get from here today, that that change that we promised will be here. that's pubuc promised will be here. that's public service investment, that is making sure that people's lives are better off. it's
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tackling those root causes of the cost of living crisis so that when we get to the next election, people are genuinely better off than they were at the last. >> now you represent one of those seats, like the seat that iused those seats, like the seat that i used to represent what became known as the red wall, very heavy brexit supporting constituencies. like many of those constituencies, reform is in second place in stoke on trent central. are you worried about them? >> i'm not worried about them, but i do think we have to take them very seriously. they are. they are not a joke outfit. they are not to be ridiculed . are not to be ridiculed. thousands of people in my own constituency looked at what was on offer and chose to for vote reform. i take that very seriously. it's my job to convince those voters that the next election that their trust is best placed in the labour party, but to do that, we have to understand that reform are becoming a mature, campaigning political party and we must treat them as such. and then campaign against them and against the things that they are advocating for in the same way
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we would the conservatives or the liberal democrats. we can't simply write them off as a flash in the pan. that would be a dangerous thing to do. >> cutting the winter fuel payment is surely a gift to reform you must have had. i remember the mps email inbox. it's not nice reading. i'm sure. >> no it's not. and you know, i think that people are genuinely worried, but there is a job of work that i, as a local mp and that the government has to do to explain to people the other sources of help they can get, whether that's the household support fund, the home, the warm homes grant, those sorts of things. and ultimately there are going to be other tough decisions ahead of us. so we need to make sure that we're explaining why we're doing it and then give that clear indication that we're doing this because the future will be brighter, will be better, and that there is going to be, as keir keeps saying, a short term pain for a long term gain in our country and our communities. >> gareth snell, pleasure to chat to you again. thank you for being on gb news. enjoy the rest of the conference. emily, the big day, a couple of hours. we'll be taking it live. of course it is indeed a big day.
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>> thank you very much indeed. gloria pereiro, for bringing us that fantastic interview with gareth snell, who is the mp for stoke on trent central. we've got lots more coming up on the show here. thank you very much indeed. this is good afternoon britain on gb news. we've got lots more coming up on today's show. now the home secretary a little bit earlier she gave a speech. she came to the stage. she said labour is the party of law and order. she vowed to crack down on street crime. she also lashed out at right wing parties. she says they made excuses for the mob following the summer riots. did they? our security editor, mark white, will bring us the latest
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next. okay. welcome back. it is now 1220. now the home secretary, yvette cooper. she says it's time to take our streets back. she addressed concerns on crime at the labour conference in
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liverpool. a little bit earlier on. now, speaking about the summer riots, she described the events as arson , racism and events as arson, racism and thuggery. she also turned her attention to right wing parties, which she called right wing wreckers, referring to the conservatives and reform. she also said some had made excuses for the rioters, made excuses for the rioters, made excuses for them. is that so ? well, we for them. is that so? well, we can now speak with gb news home and security editor mark white. mark, you were listening to yvette cooper speech there. she covered quite a bit. what were your key takeaways ? your key takeaways? >> well, raking seems to be the word of the day for a speechwriter. anyway also accusing the conservatives of taking a wrecking ball to law and order. but it was that issue, i think, that stood out for me on the riots, really doubung for me on the riots, really doubling down on the government's rhetoric at the time of the riots, saying that this was racism and criminality, pure and simple, that there was
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no excuse, nothing else at play here. and of course, i mean, i remember at the time listening to sir keir starmer at a news conference in downing street that i was at where he was talking about this being the far right who were being, heading to these locations in trains and that they were bringing in new laws to allow the police to head them off at the pass, if you like, and be able to intervene . like, and be able to intervene. and then we saw in the subsequent criminal cases that went before the courts, that the courts that the vast majority of those who were appearing before the courts were people from the local area . but take a listen to local area. but take a listen to what yvette cooper said about what yvette cooper said about what she believes was behind the riots and the motivation . riots and the motivation. >> to do so, don't anyone tell
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me that was protest. don't anyone tell me that was about immigration or policing or poverty. plenty of people have strong views on immigration, on crime, on the nhs and more. but they do not pick up bricks and throw them at the police. they do not set light to buildings with people inside. >> it was arson. it was racism. it was thuggery. it was crime . it was thuggery. it was crime. >> well, as i say, very interesting that she chose to take that particular tack on this issue, given that even you know, wider afield in the mainstream media now, people are acknowledging the very real tensions in communities right up and down the country because of mass migration, in particular, illegal immigration and asylum seekers. but on other issues, which of course went down as we would expect at a labour conference. very well. she said
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that she was going to tackle knife crime , that labour was the knife crime, that labour was the party of law and order, that there would be more police on there would be more police on the streets , not just on the the streets, not just on the streets, but in neighbourhoods. again, take a listen to what she said . said. >> the labour government will bnngin >> the labour government will bring in new powers on anti—social behaviour, shoplifting and off road bikes and we will put neighbourhood police back in our communities and back on the beat. police back in our communities and back on the beat . and yes, and back on the beat. and yes, after years of co—op and usdaw campaigning, this labour government will introduce a new law on assaults on shop workers because everyone has the right to work in freedom from fear . to work in freedom from fear. >> and so, in terms of the
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crackdown, what we're going to see, according to the home secretary, is a renewed emphasis really on tackling the kind of anti—social crime that is plaguing many towns and cities across the country. but i think the difficulty going forward on this is trying to get the police to be able to respond to what the government sees as a priority. chief constables would argue that, you know, the reason that some of the anti—social behaviour and what they see and have dubbed over the years as kind of lower level crime has taken a bit of a back seat, is because the police are just deaung because the police are just dealing with back to back calls all of the time, stacking up calls that take an awful long time to be answered in many instances. so where will they be able to actually find the time and the resources to answer these kind of lower level
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anti—social crime that is being committed in towns and cities across the country? >> yes, mark, i'm always sceptical when governments talk about new legislation when it appears those things are already illegal. so a new law on shop workers when it comes to assault on shop workers, of course, any assault on a shop worker is absolutely dreadful. but will a new law make a difference to that? will that actually enable the police when we know our criminal justice system is under so much pressure, will that actually enable the police to put these types of people behind bars, when we know that our prisons are so full, when they also talk about putting more neighbourhood policing back into our communities, do we know whether we're going to get x thousand more police officers out and about in our communities? a law on spiking. well, we know spiking is already illegal. you're not allowed to put a substance in someone's dnnk put a substance in someone's drink at a bar or a club or wherever else . is this just sort
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wherever else. is this just sort of acting when it won't actually make that much of a material difference ? difference? >> well, i mean, certainly i think to be fair to the government, they have their priorities and they would like to see a focus on these areas. but individual chief constables have to decide and prioritise policing in their force areas. and sometimes they cannot provide the resources to cover the areas that the particular government or minister of the day might see as important. government or minister of the day might see as important . on day might see as important. on that first issue about shop workers, you're absolutely right, emily. of course, assault is assault . but if you enshrine is assault. but if you enshrine in law a particular crime of assault against shop workers, it's similar to an assault against emergency service workers. so it's over and above an everyday assault on a member of the public, meaning that the criminal sanction at the end of the day, the penalty at the end
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of the day can be that bit higher on neighbourhood policing. yeah, they may want to recruit another 13,000 officers, but we discovered when the conservatives wanted to recruit an additional 10,000 officers as well, it was extremely difficult for police forces to be able to find those individuals in the time frame that the conservatives gave them to do that to and find them of the sufficient quality. and what was happening, of course, was seasoned, experienced officers were leaving the job, and then lots of very young or inexperienced officers taking their place out in the streets, doing very difficult and complex jobs. and many of them felt they weren't up to the task because there wasn't the mentoring, because many of the experienced officers had left. and then many officers had left. and then many of them left shortly after that. so there is still a deep crisis within policing that needs to be answered here. >> she did speak about
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immigration, not so much on on the detail. she talked about how the detail. she talked about how the disorder and violence we saw dunng the disorder and violence we saw during the summer will not silence a serious debate on immigration. then she goes on to say that net migration is trebled, and she puts this down to the fact that we have not had enough training of young people in this country. so essentially what she's saying, if we improve training for young people in this country, immigration won't be a problem. does that stack up ? be a problem. does that stack up? >> well, the disorder may not silence a debate on immigration, but it's been it's done nothing to enhance the debate on immigration. there really hasn't been much of a debate other than what you say there, emily, which is, you know, vague discussions about the need to train up businesses of people to be able to fill the jobs that businesses want in this country. but remember, as well, you've had an
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issue where businesses have sought , overseas workers for sought, overseas workers for many of the jobs because, you know , regardless of the sort of know, regardless of the sort of skill set , often they are lower skill set, often they are lower paid and from a business point of view, that business model, it makes more sense to employ people that are going to be cheaperin people that are going to be cheaper in terms of your overall wage bill. so you've got to incentivise the businesses not to be looking constantly overseas for their staff as well . overseas for their staff as well. >> well, thank you very much indeed. mark white. our homeland security editor. thank you. speak to you in a bit. well, this is good afternoon britain. we're on gb news. we've got lots more coming up on today's show. we're going to check in back with tom harwood at liverpool conference. let me know what you think about how we have new laws for different things. so for example, now assault on a shop worker could lead to a more stringent sentence or a more stringent sentence or a more stringent punishment than assault on someone else who happens not to be a shop worker.
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does that make sense to you? it doesn't quite make sense to me, but let me know your thoughts after the . break. after the. break. >> a very good afternoon to you. it's just after half past 12. a look at the top stories this lunchtime. well, there's been disruption at the labour party conference earlier this morning as two youth demand supporters spray painted the words genocide conference on the entrance . the conference on the entrance. the protesters calling for an arms embargo on israel and halt to new uk oil and gas licences, were arrested after being tackled by police. the incident happened this morning outside the security check in at the conference in liverpool . conference in liverpool. meanwhile, ahead of his speech to the labour conference today, sir keir starmer has insisted that britain can be fixed. posting on social media this morning, the prime minister said just because britain isn't working at the moment, it doesn't mean it can't be fixed.
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his speech set to begin in around an hour and a half's time, will aim for an optimistic tone, claiming there is light at the end of the tunnel. he'll also outline a vision for national renewal, focusing on faster economic growth, shorter hospital waiting lists and safer streets, but will warn of tough short term pressures ahead. the speech comes amid anger over cuts to winter fuel payments and scrutiny of donations to senior labour figures . israel is labour figures. israel is ramping up attacks on hezbollah in lebanon, with airstrikes and tank fire hitting militants as thousands continue to flee the region. israel's military chief has in the last few minutes said that the offensive will intensify today after 1600 militant targets have already been struck in just 24 hours. hezbollah responded with rocket attacks on israeli military sites , including an airfield and sites, including an airfield and explosives factory. over 550 people have so far been killed, including 50 children, as lebanese families pack highways
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and flee south. lebanon's government is setting up 89 shelters for 26,000 displaced residents here, the government says securing an agreement with striking nurses is an essential step to restoring public services. after they turned down a 5.5% pay rise. two thirds of royal college of nursing members voted against the deal in a record turnout . labour minister record turnout. labour minister pat mcfadden insists the government does understand the challenges of balancing public spending while trying to treat workers fairly . but shadow workers fairly. but shadow health secretary victoria atkins claims the labour government has lost control of public sector pay- lost control of public sector pay. and finally, a skydiver has pulled off a world first stunt combining skydiving and surfing. sebastian alvarez jumped from a helicopter over abu dhabi with a surfboard strapped to his feet, landing directly on the water. video of his incredible feat shows alvarez releasing his
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parachute mid—air and then riding the waves. parachute mid—air and then riding the waves . the adrenaline riding the waves. the adrenaline junkie called the achievement a lifelong dream, blending his love of both skydiving and surfing . those are the latest surfing. those are the latest headunes surfing. those are the latest headlines for now, a full roundup at 1:00 for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone , sign up to news smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com forward slash
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>> okay, well, a judge has ruled that the duke of sussex's us visa application should remain private despite him admitting to taking drugs in his memoir spare. yes, the us judge, carl nichols, said the public does not have a strong interest in disclosure of the duke's immigration records and added that like any foreign national,
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the duke has a legitimate privacy interest in his immigration status. curious. we're joined in the studio by gb news royal correspondent cameron walker to talk us through this, this rather odd story. now, cameron , this all came from am i cameron, this all came from am i right? this all came from a think tank who were trying to push this. they were trying to make all these documents relating to prince harry's visa application. well, they wanted to make them public. yeah exactly. >> so this is a washington, dc based think tank. the heritage foundation, conservative with a small c. and when prince harry disclosed in his memoir, spare that he had taken cocaine, psychedelic mushrooms and marijuana, they thought , well, marijuana, they thought, well, hold on, he's got a visa to the united states. and usually if you admit to taking drugs on your visa application , they're your visa application, they're going to reject the visa application. so they put a freedom of information request into the us. the us government, the department of homeland security who deals with visa applications to ask for them to publicly disclose prince harry's immigration records to reveal it .
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immigration records to reveal it. they refused to do so, and therefore the heritage foundation sued the us government. and then it's become this massive court case. the heritage foundation were basically asked, are basically arguing even that either prince harry failed to disclose his drug use on his immigration record or the us government or officials in the us government turned a blind eye because of prince harry's status as as the king's son. that was kind of the allegation in fairness, we don't know what kind of visa prince harry's on. if he's on a diplomatic visa, for example, there are waivers in which he doesn't need to declare it any drug, drug use potentially , drug, drug use potentially, particularly the h—1b visa, which is the one, according to a us immigration lawyer which has spoken to gb news in the past, suggests that members of the royal family would have if they go to the united states. but as you said, the us judge, carl nichols, says the public does not have a strong interest in the disclosure of the duke's immigration records and basically said, because prince harry and his memoir didn't talk about his immigration status or immigration application in the
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book , it doesn't actually matter book, it doesn't actually matter that he's declared that he's taken drugs . and that was kind taken drugs. and that was kind of the argument. so we're waiting to see if the heritage foundation wants to appeal that judge's decision. but at the moment, prince harry's safe and soundin moment, prince harry's safe and sound in the us. >> i don't understand that argument from the judge. >> well, i mean, that's what the judge said. i can only tell you what he says, and i'm sure the heritage foundation are thinking long and hard about what their next step is going to be because they they say that this could potentially be a clear issue in terms of somebody being not above the law, but having a certain privilege, but above that of us citizens and above the law. >> that is what they're saying, really, isn't it? >> well, i suppose quite possibly. and i suppose, you know, they want to say that prince harry is a member of the royal family, but in the united states every person is equal, right? every us citizen is equal right? every us citizen is equal. so that's what they're trying to find out. yeah >> so why are the heritage foundation doing this? is this a vendetta against prince harry, or is this them trying to, i don't know, shine a light on discrepancies in how people are treated? >> well, i think they would argue your second point, emily,
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but there are certainly commentators online who are saying they are just trying to create a bit of a headache for prince harry. of course, this week, particularly bad timing that all of this is coming out because he's in new york doing a number of charity engagements, and this is clearly distracting from that. and i suppose, you know, the heritage foundation is not going to say that they're trying to discredit prince harry. but, you know, we'll see. we'll see. >> no one would really believe that prince harry would actually be under threat from being deported from the united states as a member of the british royal family. okay. he's not a working royal anymore , but just because royal anymore, but just because he mentioned a bit of drug taking in a memoir, a silly thing to do. >> well, exactly. and also, i think the other point is that prince harry is not by any stretch of the imagination, the first high profile figure to have admitted taking drugs in the past and then been allowed to enter the united states. so there would be an argument, perhaps, that is this a is prince harry a little bit of a victim here? and being singled out because he's happened to have written it in his memoir, spare, and he happens to be
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quite unpopular with both with the british public at the moment. that could potentially be an argument. yeah, i find it very interesting that, well, on the surface, the heritage foundation appears to be a sensible , respected, sensible, respected, conservative think tank based in washington. >> i read that they put quite a lot of energy into this particular issue. it's very interesting. i do wonder why. >> well, and money as well, of course, because they've had to pay course, because they've had to pay for lawyers to argue this case. and if you think about it, what would actually happen if the visa application was publicly disclosed? and then we got to see exactly what was in it. prince harry has left, as a working member of the royal family to the united kingdom. he is now living with his wife meghan, who is a us citizen, and his two young children, who are clearly also us citizens . would clearly also us citizens. would it really be right to split up a very young family because of what their father wrote on their immigration records? i just don't see diplomatically how on earth anybody in the us department of homeland security is going to want to negotiate that with the british government. as to where is prince harry going to go? >> yeah, i mean, i do understand
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if the united states has a rule that you don't allow people to come live in the united states if they have taken drugs in the past, then it should be a rule that suits everyone. but i believe that we don't always see that rule applied even handedly, even when it does not happen. even when prince harry isn't in the picture. but this is this is another victory for prince harry, though it is potentially another victory. >> and i think what he's been doing really over the last couple of days is honouring the legacy of his mother. and i did ask prince harry's spokespeople for comments on this particular issue, and there was i was met with silence. i believe their focus is on the diana legacy award, which prince harry was attending yesterday. he looked a little bit awkward at the start. start of it actually. he was asking some young people questions who who'd won this legacy award talking about young people's mental health. he also visited the halo trust engagement, talking about if you remember those iconic pictures of princess diana back in 1997, walking through a landmine field in angola. prince harry wants wanting to continue that work and eradicate landmines across the world. and this and today
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actually, which again, would tie into the diplomatic issue with the royal family and members of the royal family and members of the elite in the united states, he's meeting bill clinton, the former us president, and his daughter chelsea, for the clintons drive to find solutions to global problems. that's how it's been headlined. so prince harry is going to be joining them on stage. >> oh, prince harry, he's going to he's going to solve all the challenges we face as as a as humankind. wonderful. thank you very much indeed, cameron wahaca. thank you. gb news royal correspondent. of course, we'll see if this case rumbles on. what the heritage foundation will say. will they say no , no, will say. will they say no, no, no, this certainly is in the pubuc no, this certainly is in the public interest. we want to see that visa application. we shall see. i guess . but this that visa application. we shall see. i guess. but this is good afternoon britain on gb news. we've got more after the break. we're going to be speaking to tom harwood because there's been quite breaking in the last half hour or so . lots and lots of hour or so. lots and lots of graffiti are calling out labour for genocide. apparently at the conference. there's also been quite a bit of anti—zionist
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protesters as well. at that conference, we'll bring you the latest
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1248 is the time you're watching listening to good afternoon britain, and we're going to cross back to liverpool and catch up with tom harwood, because there's been quite a few anti—israel protests taking over parts of the conference today . parts of the conference today. tom, you've been out and about and you've well, you've demand firstly, they've been spraying graffiti over parts of the labour party conference with the word genocide, haven't they? but there's also been quite a number of protests against israel, against zionists. >> yes. there's a particularly strange sign that has been seen and we must stress this is outside the conference, not inside the conference. so people
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protesting the conference just by the entrance. and i believe we can show one of these signs now on the television that says zionists control the labour party with a big star of david next to it. and sort of blood dripping down. we'll try and get that particular picture up as soon as we can. but yes, israel murders children . killing kids murders children. killing kids is not self—defence . these are is not self—defence. these are signs that have been put up by these protesters. but this is these protesters. but this is the one that i'm talking about. zionists control the labour party. that's the accusation of these two men. and on that sign, we saw a star of david as well. now i think most people, most independent observers would say that's a fairly anti—semitic trope. the idea of jews and control and not even the israeli flag there, but just the blatant anti—semitism. in my view. i'm
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going to call it what it is there, although it must be said , there, although it must be said, this is outside the labour party, not inside the labour party. and it must be said that under the previous leadership of this party, you'd probably see those people inside this conference, whatever else you can say about keir starmer, perhaps it is of note that this time these people are outside the conference. >> very interesting and i'm sure you're right to say that things would be rather different under previous leadership in terms of the protest being inside the conference hall rather than just outside. but having said that, are there many fringe events addressing the issue of israel, addressing the issue of israel, addressing the issue of israel, addressing the issue of israel palestine? are there people with palestinian flags, palestinian badges going out and about having, you know, protesting? because this is obviously a hugely hot issue ? hugely hot issue? >> well, we can all remember what happened just yesterday with rachel reeves speech and the protesters that stood up
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shouting about gaza, shouting about israel, shouting about arms sales. there are lots of people wearing lanyards that have palestinian flags on them. there is a huge amount of debate on this issue, but i have to say, i was here in 2019 when you couldn't move for palestinian flags being waved on the conference floor. i have to say, i haven't seen any palestinian flags in the way that we saw when jeremy corbyn was party leader, but lots and lots of lanyards and we are still looking ahead to keir starmer's speech, which will be at about 2:00. >> lots of talk about how he's going to try and shift the tone in a more positive direction. of course, he got quite a bit of criticism following that quite miserable speech. i think it's fair to say in the rose garden a few weeks ago now, what do you expect for this speech ? expect for this speech? >> well, i have to say, the atmosphere in the hall is
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becoming more what happens to an atmosphere. does it thicken? i'm not sure, but i'm going to show you the queue anyway of people waiting to get in to keir starmers speech. they've erected barriers here because we've got the number of delegates that are queuing up. it is a ticketed event this year, but nonetheless the queue is expanding. i might not even be able to squeeze through, but to just give you a scale of the number of people who will be pouring into the hall in not that much time at all. we can sort of walk down and see, really stretching for a long, long way. this is the event of conference. it will be the culmination of conference in many ways, and it is what this conference will be judged on. can the prime minister deliver that sense of optimism? can the prime minister answer his critics? can the prime minister turn down this idea of scandal and sleaze and move beyond it and sleaze and move beyond it and set out a positive vision? these are all questions for his speech today, and that is what
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all of these people are queuing up to see. of course, there are more questions for keir starmer as well. on the control of the labour party. will we be able to see a speech uninterrupted by hecklers? that would be an interesting case. it actually sneaks around here. let's see if we can step outside. and sorry for the changing lights, but my goodness me, it is a q and a half and it will be interesting to see how it goes down in the hall. i've never taken the gb news audience out into this particular corridor before, but it is interesting to see the number of people, the throngs of people here at the labour party conference awaiting the speech from a leader who, let's not beat around the bush, has been under pressure in recent days and weeks, who has taken a bit of a dip in the polls, but has this opportunity and an enormous majority to back him up this opportunity to change perceptions and really make a mark for the start of his
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premiership. remember, he's only beenin premiership. remember, he's only been in office for the last two months or so, just around 70 days. so we haven't even hit that 100 day mark. that will always be that moment of judgement. we haven't yet had that first budget. we haven't yet had so much that this government will be trying to achieve in the likely five years, that it remains in office before the next election. so lots to look forward to. i think we might have found the end of the queue here, so this seems like a perfect moment . like a perfect moment. >> goodness me, i haven't seen a queue that long since taylor swift was in town. or indeed for bofis swift was in town. or indeed for boris johnson, either. let's get the weather. we'll be back in a sec . sec. >> sec. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on gb news >> time now for your latest weather update from the met office here on gb news. thankfully it's a lot drier out there today after the recent
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downpours. it's not completely dry. we do have some wet weather across northern scotland where it's also turned colder. this area of low pressure brought all the heavy rain through the weekend and yesterday, but it is ebbing away as it pulls away, though it is allowing the winds to come down from the north, hence why it's so chilly across northern scotland. we do have some pretty wet weather here too. a few showers over southern scotland and a scattering over parts of northern england and wales. northern ireland also, but for a good part of england, particularly those flood affected areas, it should be a dry day, fairly cloudy but with a bit of brightness. we could get up into the high teens . so get up into the high teens. so generally fine conditions across much of southern england and the midlands. maybe 1 or 2 showers coming into devon and cornwall later on northern and western parts of wales we'll see some sunny spells, but also a few showers here. a scattering of showers here. a scattering of showers over northern england. these showers over the far north of england, southern scotland, could be on the heavy side and the heavy and persistent rain this morning over north—east scotland. that should ease by the end of the day. but look at
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that wind coming down from the north, bringing that chillier feel, and that colder air will sink further south as we go through the night. many places will have a dry night. still a fair few showers around this evening over wales and north east england, but they should tend to fade and then later in the night we could see thickening cloud into south wales and southwest england. a bit of showery rain coming in here too, but with clear skies for northern ireland and scotland. temperatures will dip well down into single figures not far off freezing in parts of scotland won't be as cold in the south because it'll be more cloud coming in here, and that is a sign of more wet weather to come in as we go through tomorrow. showery rain initially, but turning more persistent come the afternoon. over south wales and south—west england. a few showers over northern england, southern scotland, but much of the north will have a dry and a fine day tomorrow. we should see some sunny spells, but staying on the chilly side here. bye for now . chilly side here. bye for now. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of
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gb news. >> good afternoon britain. it's 1:00 on tuesday, the 24th of september. i'm emily carver and i'm tom harwood live at the labour party conference today in liverpool , where in under an liverpool, where in under an hours liverpool, where in under an hour's time now, sir keir starmer will be speaking. >> stay tuned to hear what the labour leader and prime minister has to say. >> we will indeed. and in her speech earlier today, the home secretary yvette cooper she launched a furious attack against the summer rioters, labelling the spate of incidents as arson , racism and thuggery. as arson, racism and thuggery. she also called out the tories and reform for apparently making excuses for the rioters and the national trust's director general has admitted that 70% of his staff hate the union flag and are progressive activists. can that be right?
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and as ever, please do send your views, post your comments. visit gbnews.com/yoursay. tom thank you very much indeed for showing us that rather long queue. for keir starmer's speech, i don't think i've ever seen anything like it as we're speaking. >> it looks like the entire parliamentary labour party, just behind the camera is walking into the hall. now. i'm spotting many, many different mps. it looks like this is an mps only queue.can looks like this is an mps only queue. can we have a little look? currently just behind where our stand is. i don't know if we can have a look. i don't know, is it possible to turn around these cameras? i'm not sure it is. we're in a fixed position here, but it does look like some of the 411 labour mps who were elected. just 70 or so days ago are going into the hall as we speak. this is, of course, geanng as we speak. this is, of course, gearing up for keir starmer. speaking in around 59 minutes time. so it does seem that the hall has opened literally, as we've just started speaking. so it is all really gearing up here
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for what will be the moment of conference. >> yes . and those cabinet >> yes. and those cabinet ministers, they've been having a pretty hard time of it when it comes to the media around being asked all sorts of questions, being asked to defend keir starmer and the various donations, the various freebies, wardrobe gate, all of that. lord alli mentioned more times than they would hope for. i imagine. but let's see if this speech turns things around . tom. we'll turns things around. tom. we'll catch up later, but let's get the news headlines with sam francis . francis. >> very good afternoon to you from the gb newsroom. just gone 1:00. the top story this lunchtime. the home secretary says labour is the party of law and order, vowing to crack down on street crime, targeting offenders like street drinkers and shoplifters. opening the third day of the labour conference in liverpool this morning, yvette cooper pledged to introduce ronan's law banning ninja swords, earning her a standing ovation . she also standing ovation. she also promised buffer zones around abortion clinics and reiterated
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labour's plan to halve knife crime in a decade. she went on to condemn riots in southport, calling the violence there a disgrace and also slammed the conservatives as right wing wreckers , who she said sow wreckers, who she said sow division so don't anyone tell me that was protest . that was protest. >> don't anyone tell me that was about immigration or policing or poverty. plenty of people have strong views on immigration, on crime, on the nhs and more. but they do not pick up bricks and throw them at the police. they do not set light to buildings with people inside. >> it was arson. it was racism , >> it was arson. it was racism, it was thuggery. it was crime . it was thuggery. it was crime. >> as we heard from tom and emily at the top of the hour, just 57 minutes or so to go until we hear light at the end of the tunnel. that's the message from sir keir starmer as he's preparing for his first labour conference speech as prime minister he'll outline a vision for national renewal ,
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vision for national renewal, focusing on faster economic growth, shorter hospital waiting lists and safer streets. but he's also expected to warn of tough pressures ahead. the labour leader will also pledge a crackdown on benefit fraud, a reduction in net migration and the introduction of a hillsborough law. the speech comes amid anger, though, over cuts to winter fuel payments and scrutiny of donations to senior labour figures . earlier, though, labour figures. earlier, though, there was disruption at that conference in liverpool as two youth demand supporters spray painted the words genocide conference on the entrance. the protesters, calling for an arms embargo on israel and a halt to new uk oil and gas licences , new uk oil and gas licences, were later arrested after being tackled by police. the incident happened this morning outside the security check in at the conference in liverpool . and conference in liverpool. and some breaking news to bring you that we've heard in the last few minutes that the defence secretary , john healey, has secretary, john healey, has reportedly left that labour conference early to return to
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london to chair an emergency cobra meeting to discuss the escalating crisis in the middle east. that, of course, comes as israel airstrikes have continued to hit hezbollah positions, including missile launchers and weapons depots. at least 550 people, including women and children, have been killed so far in what was lebanon's deadliest 24 hours in decades. half a million people have also fled southern lebanon. airlines have cancelled dozens of flights to the region , and lebanese to the region, and lebanese hospitals are now overwhelmed with more than 1900 wounded. the uk and the us have also both now advised their nationals to leave the region . and one other line the region. and one other line to bring you from the reuters news agency on that ongoing conflict. we're just hearing that israeli jets have been seen conducting a targeted strike in the lebanese capital of beirut that, according to the israeli military. no details though so far on the outcome of that
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latest strike. but it appears the situation continues to escalate here. the government says securing an agreement with striking nurses is an essential step to restoring public services after they turned down a 5.5% pay rise. two thirds of royal college of nursing members voted against that deal in a record turnout. labour minister pat mcfadden insists the government does understand the challenge of balancing public spending and trying to treat workers fairly. >> prospects for the country are great britain is a great place in which to invest, and if we can get that message out and get that going, then we can generate the wealth that we need to make people better off and to fund the public services that we all depend on. and the two parts to that story are going to be at the heart of the prime minister's speech this afternoon . minister's speech this afternoon. >> however, the shadow health secretary victoria atkins, claims the labour government has. she says , lost control of has. she says, lost control of pubuc has. she says, lost control of public sector pay. she also told
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us earlier pay rises given to junior doctors could have repercussions for other health care professionals . care professionals. >> it would have impacts on other healthcare professionals, including nurses and midwives, who would ask quite reasonably well, what value does this government put on us? and we are now seeing the longer term consequences of that short term decision he made in july to award that inflation busting pay rise to junior doctors with no reform, such as i had with consultants , no improvements to consultants, no improvements to productivity and sadly, we're now seeing the ramifications of that. >> and finally, commuters are bracing for more disruption as dozens of flood warnings remain in place across the uk, with more heavy rain on the way. some areas have seen more than a month's worth of rain in just 24 hours, leaving homes damaged and roads impassable. a new yellow weather warning has also been issued for thursday this week, stretching from nottinghamshire to northumberland. the environment agency has also issued a number of flood
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warnings. that's the second highest alert level, with strong winds and further travel chaos expected this week . those are expected this week. those are the latest headlines for now. i'll be back with you for another roundup in half an hour. >> for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . forward slash alerts. >> good afternoon britain and welcome back. it is now 108 and we're going to cross back to liverpool because gb news political editor christopher hope, is joined by former labour mp sir george howarth. christopher thank you very much indeed. please do take it away . indeed. please do take it away. >> hi, i'm leo, welcome back here to labour conference in liverpool. well the sun is out outside. it's been pouring with
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rain over the past two days. finally the sun has come out. maybe just maybe, that's a harbinger for the sunny uplands which we'll be seeing from. sir keir starmer as prime minister. his speech shortly with me now is sir george howarth, the former labour mp who quit in the last election. george, do you want to see some sunny uplands? do you think it's been a bit too gloomy for you? yes, i understand why. >> you know, they've got incredibly difficult problems with public finances , problems with public finances, problems with public finances, problems with the prisons, and it's all been a bit. oh, dear. look at what we've got to deal with, which is fair enough, but i think people are wanting some inspiration. i think peter mandelson said over the last 24 hours, you know, people want to see what the project is, what it's going to look like. yeah. >> tell me a story. what's the narrative behind this new government? >> exactly. yeah. and i think from what i can gather , in
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from what i can gather, in advance of him actually saying it, it's likely to be that kind of speech . he won't shy away of speech. he won't shy away from saying what the problems are , but equally, he won't shy are, but equally, he won't shy away from dealing with them in a way that people, i think will approve of. >> you've been around for a long time, sir george. is he political enough for you? sir keir starmer, he's made these little missteps, hasn't he, about freebies. and i mean, what's your take on that? >> he's not political in the classical sense of somebody who spent all of their life being involved in politics. so. but in the sense that he's got very strong values and a very strong sense of what's right. and wrong, then i think you know, he is very political in a, in a way that's not flashy, but it's he declares everything he says that. >> but £100,000 worth of freebies. i mean, do you ever take freebies when you're an mp?
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>> no. but on the other hand, nobody ever offered them. i should have bought you a drink, but, i mean, one thing i will say, and it's particularly true of his wife and for that matter, women in the public eye, the media. if they turn up dressed in something that clearly isn't suitable for the occasion , they suitable for the occasion, they are going to get whipped by the media. so there is an argument for if you want to look, if people want you to look your best, yeah, then you need if you're not wealthy as rishi some people, some wearing labour lanyards, told to lease, leave. . . sunak was sunak was, then you some people, some wearing labour lanyards, told to leas rishive. . . you're not wealthy as rishi sunak was sunak was, then you know , there has to be a way that know , there has to be a way that know, there has to be a way that know, there has to be a way that you can look sunak didn't need you can look sunak didn't need to need to have donations. to need to have donations. >> he paid for it himself >> he paid for it himself because he was very wealthy. of because he was very wealthy. of coui'se. >> coui'se. >> course. >> yes, exactly. >> yes, exactly. >> how are you detecting? real course. >> yes, exactly. >> yes, exactly. >> how are you detecting? real upset still about the winter upset still about the winter fuel payment being withdrawn in fuel payment being withdrawn in november here in liverpool, november here in liverpool, there's anecdotal conversations there's anecdotal conversations about last night at an event. about last night at an event. some people, some wearing labour some people, some wearing labour
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lanyards, told to leave, lanyards, told to leave, leave this bar because they are people here across even now, even the early days with this labour government. >> well , i government. >> well, i hadn't heard that , >> well, i hadn't heard that, and, you know, frankly, people need to be more tolerant of different points of view. but i was at, a funeral yesterday of an old friend . and as you would an old friend. and as you would expect , most of the other people expect, most of the other people there were elderly people themselves. and i was surprised that several came up to me and
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themselves. and i was surprised that silleral came up to me and themselves. and i was surprised that s�*i mean,|me up to me and themselves. and i was surprised that s�*i mean, he up to me and themselves. and i was surprised that s�*i mean, i think to me and themselves. and i was surprised that s�*i mean, i think he'se and themselves. and i was surprised that s�*i mean, i think he's going hand, i mean, i think he's going to cover the welfare bill, yes. >> today cuts to benefits too, won't they? yeah. >> and it is you know, when you get to the point where it's i think it's £68 billion, they can't carry on you can't ignore the fact that you can't carry on as as was the case before. >> the risk of this government, though, is austerity and being seen as tories in disguise. and i can i can imagine if it goes the wrong way in a couple of maybe next year or the year after that chant, are you tories in disguise? could be a problem for this government. >> well, some people will say that come what may. yes. but i don't think that is the case. i think, you know, rachel reeves , think, you know, rachel reeves, keir and the team are pushing to get an economy that attracts investment. and through investment, they get economic growth. once you've got economic growth, then spending restrictions and austerity are
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no longer as relevant as they might be today. >> and we heard earlier from, yvette cooper, the home secretary, she wants to cut net migration. i mean, do you think this government understands the concerns about migration, that it's not necessarily a far right issue. it's a concern held by many people. i mean, i'm sure in knowsley in your former seat. >> well, yeah, it is. and i think you've got to be strategic about how you look at where pubuc about how you look at where public opinion is. there are people who quite legitimately feel that really there's too many people crossing the channel and beyond that, there's too many people coming into the country and they're not racists, but they have a what they see as a legitimate concern. and that needs to be addressed. some of it is inspired by racism, and we saw that in the riots where it might have been some local people involved, but the people who organised it were from the far right, and that's got to be
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tackled for what it is. >> we heard that from from the home secretary earlier. yeah, but there are underlying issues and i wonder why we're not heanng and i wonder why we're not hearing more about tackling by the community secretary angela rayner talking to communities, why you are about it. let's talk about that. >> well, i mean, that's always a good thing. my belief, and i've said this repeatedly over the last few months, i think we need to have a sensible national conversation about immigration so that we know not only what people think, but so they know what the real implications of it are . and we're not having that. are. and we're not having that. but we should. >> time for conversation. sir george howarth, former mp for knowsley . thank you forjoining knowsley. thank you for joining us today on our stand at the labour conference for gb news. my labour conference for gb news. my pleasure. george howarth there at the end. now emily, saying it's time for a conversation about immigration. we haven't heard that yet from this government. >> oh, it's time for a conversation about immigration. well, thank you very much indeed . well, thank you very much indeed. christopher hope, our political edhon christopher hope, our political editor. and to sir george howarth, just a few things, just
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a few things on that interview, actually, female politicians can dress appropriately without donations . that was a suggestion donations. that was a suggestion from sir george that women will get harassed by the media if theyif get harassed by the media if they if they don't look okay. so therefore it's absolutely fine for female politicians to be taking donations of clothing. and also, i don't know about you, but i'm a bit fed up of heanng you, but i'm a bit fed up of hearing people say, oh well, well, i know a pensioner who says they don't need the winter fuel allowance, so therefore this is a good policy. no it's not. you say a couple of months before winter that actually the winter fuel allowance is going to be scrapped for about 10 million pensioners. do you not think some people are going to slip through the cracks there? and also. oh, there's a lot i could say, but we're going to head over to katherine forster. let me know your thoughts on that interview because katherine forster, i believe is at the queue, because the queue is very long indeed for the prime minister's speech, isn't it? catherine? a huge number of people waiting. it's like he's a rock star. okay, sir, it is a bit. >> hello, emily. good afternoon.
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yes, there is a real buzz here. i'm going to have to speak quite loudly because it's very, very noisy. i hope you can hear me. all right. but hundreds and hundreds of people gathered here waiting for the prime minister to speak, beginning at 2:00. oh, pardon me, i'm just going to grab a gentleman i was just talking to. just before we came on air. who's name is isaac? he's come up from bournemouth. isaac, tell us how long you've been a labour party member and what you want to hear from the prime minister today. >> i've been a member since i was about 14 or 15. and, it's basically fine. and i hope keir starmer says some sort of left wing stuff that i would agree with. and i'm sure like you would agree because like gb news, i think we all agree that vladimir putin, they have him wrong. he's a nice guy. he's funding decent centrist centre right journalism and gb news god bless him. i say, right, isaac,
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come on. >> okay, let's see. we'll see if we can talk to somebody else. can we ask what you're hoping to hear from the prime minister today, >> policies. but can i ask who you are? >> we're gb news. no thanks. okay. fair enough. good grief. who else we can talk to? hello could i ask what you want to hear from the prime minister today? >> i'm thinking. i'm hoping to hear a message of optimism from him, especially on the economy. >> you have to rachel reeves. excellent speech. yesterday. >> do you think that they overdid the doom and gloom? do you think it's really important now to give that message of what all the sort of hard choices are going to result in down the line, >> i think that it's important to be realistic on the economy, but but i do think. yeah, i disagree with i agree with what
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the chancellor said yesterday, you know, and i look forward to the budget in october. >> are you worried about the opfics >> are you worried about the optics of all the various donations, given the fact that you're having to make that choice or the chancellor says labour's had to make that choice to take away the winter fuel allowance from a lot of pensioners . pensioners. >> i think . i'm sorry. could you >> i think. i'm sorry. could you repeat the question? sorry. yeah >> the optics of them taking the winter fuel allowance from a lot of pensioners alongside the fact that they've taken donations for p0p that they've taken donations for pop concerts and football tickets. do you think that's difficult? do you think that's cutting through with the public? do you think that's going to hurt them, >> i think it's the as far as the, the pop tickets and all of
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thatis the, the pop tickets and all of that is concerned, you know, the prime minister has explained , prime minister has explained, you know, his reasons for that. and, you know, it's not really for me to answer on his behalf as a delegate. >> thank you for talking to us. enjoy the speech. thank you. so we're not popular with everybody here, as you can see, emily, but it's important that we are here. we are the people's channel, and a lot of people are very keen to watch us. so back to you now from liverpool. >> yes. i'm sure that first chap thought he was being very clever indeed with that snarky remark at the top. but there we go. we got to the end there, we got some views and we're going to take a quick break. we'll be back in just a moment. please do stick with we've got lots coming up on today's show. we're
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reform. well, welcome back to good
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afternoon britain. it is now 123. there were rather a lot of unpleasant people in that queue for keir starmer. unpleasant people in that queue for keir starmer . just saying for keir starmer. just saying absolutely no, we're not going to talk to gb news even though they've been given the opportunity to say what they actually want to hear from the prime minister of this country, if they cared about democracy, if they cared about democracy, if they cared about democracy, if they cared about politics, surely they want to get that across. but there you go. some people have no manners. clearly anyway, in other news, the home secretary, yvette cooper, says it's secretary, yvette cooper, says wsfime secretary, yvette cooper, says it's time to take our streets back. she addressed concerns on crime at the labour conference in liverpool a little bit earlier. she also spoke on the summer riots quite a bit. she described the events as arson, racism and thuggery. she also accused the conservatives and other right wing parties of undermining the authority of the police, saying that her party is the party of law and order where i can speak now. with gb news home and security editor mark white. mark, i think that was very interesting, actually. what she said, accusing the conservatives and other right wing parties of undermining the
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authority of the police. was she referring to what we hear from some politicians and commentators and journalists that there can be a two tier justice? >> well, certainly that was a big issue of concern for many, and it wasn't a right wing politicians in particular that were raising this issue. there were raising this issue. there were concerns over the way in which there was a very significant clampdown and severe sentences that were handed to down those involved in the rioting, even right on the fringes of the rioting, not involved in the rioting, but posting messages and the like and a concern and a conversation around whether that same level of enforcement was being sort of handed to down other sections of the community. but yes, i mean,
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you'll have to ask her. doubling down on its assertions that we heard at the time of the riots that there was no , as she saw that there was no, as she saw it, no excuse whatsoever, not any underlying issues that could excuse the kind of violence that we were seeing. and understandably, of course, of violence has got to be condemned . violence has got to be condemned. but echoing what the prime minister has said before, she said this was racism and criminality, pure and simple. have a listen to what she told the conference. >> so don't anyone tell me that was protest. don't anyone tell me that was about immigration or policing or poverty. plenty of people have strong views on immigration, on crime, on the nhs and more. but they do not pick up bricks and throw them at the police. they do not set light to buildings with people inside. >> it was arson. it was racism. it was thuggery. it was crime .
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it was thuggery. it was crime. >> so, as i say , you know, >> so, as i say, you know, emily, very, you know , emily, very, you know, condemnatory in what she was saying about those who took to the streets and, you know, we've been up there many members of the media from all sides of the spectrum have been up there as well and have acknowledged that there are some very serious underlying tensions in communities right across the country. and, of course, we saw from the subsequent court cases that the vast majority of those that the vast majority of those that were appearing before the courts were from the local area, that the rioting was taking place in, which, again , was in place in, which, again, was in contrast to what we were hearing from the prime minister, saying that this was right wing groups who were coming up in trains that were involved in the rioting. >> yeah . and she's saying that
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>> yeah. and she's saying that we need to have a serious conversation about immigration, or at least that the rioters shouldn't get in the way of that shouldn't get in the way of that shouldn't silence a serious conversation about immigration. but i'm sure a lot of people will be wondering when that conversation will begin. in other news, mark, just breaking in the last half an hour or so, the defence secretary, he's had to leave the conference early. john healey, to attend a cobra meeting. is that right? >> well, yeah. very serious situation of course, unfolding in the middle east, on the israel—lebanon border with israel—lebanon border with israel now taking the fight to the terrorist group hezbollah after some 9000 rockets, drones and missiles were fired at israel over the last year, israel over the last year, israel clearly and saying as much that enough is enough and they have to get their communities who have been evacuated from that area of northern israel more than 70,000 people for more than a year back
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into those communities. but in doing that, of course, that raises the real potential. now for a wider regional war. and we've seen just just now more missile and rocket attacks into northern israel from hezbollah, not idf forces. the israeli defence forces bombing targets in southern lebanon. we heard from the foreign secretary in recent days urging those british citizens, thousands of them dual nationals and british citizens that are there to get out as soon as possible by commercial means, while commercial means are still there. but john healey, i think down chairing this cobra crisis meeting that will bring together ministers civil servants, members of the armed forces, they will be working out their next move should there be a civilian evacuation. well, we've got hms
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duncan, the type 45 air defence destroyer that's in that region, along with rfa mounts bay , a along with rfa mounts bay, a landing support ship. they may be tasked with helping out in a civilian, evacuation should the situation worsen . situation worsen. >> very much indeed. mark white rmt, security editor for bringing us the very latest. now, just before we move on, we can see that anticipation is building as sir keir starmer has arrived now at the labour conference ahead of his speech at 2:00. yes, i believe we can bnng at 2:00. yes, i believe we can bring you the latest as it comes in. here we go. sir keir starmer and lady victoria starmer , and lady victoria starmer, they're walking into the conference. some applause. people with signs saying change begins . it is people with signs saying change begins. it is now keir people with signs saying change begins . it is now keir starmer's begins. it is now keir starmer's job to try and put a positive spin on what he has to say to the nation after he's been accused of being a little bit too negative, a little bit, talking down this country a little bit miserable, frankly.
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so what exactly will he say? we will bring that to you live very shortly indeed. but yes, the home secretary, yvette cooper, says it's time to take our streets back. she's addressed all the concerns about crime at the labour conference in liverpool , but she made no liverpool, but she made no reference to something she made no reference to. why the government have not yet scrapped the rwanda act. now the rwanda act still remains on the statute books months, months after sir keir starmer said the plan was dead. why on earth is that so? well joining me now to discuss this is gb. news, national reporter charlie peters. charlie, thank you very much indeed for joining charlie, thank you very much indeed forjoining me. this is a bit perplexing isn't it, because they've made a whole song and dance of wanting to scrap this evil rwanda plan that makes no sense in terms of finances or ethics or morals and all of this, but yet it's still on the statute books . i believe we've statute books. i believe we've lost charlie , which is a real lost charlie, which is a real shame. hopefully we can get him
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back. we're going to go to the news headlines and then hopefully we'll be able to bring you charlie. >> very good afternoon to you. it is just after 1:30 the top story this lunchtime. and as we were just hearing, sir keir starmer has arrived to applause from delegates as he prepares for his first labour conference speech as prime minister that speech as prime minister that speech set to begin in now just under half an hour, will aim for an optimistic note claiming there is light at the end of the tunnel. starmer will also pledge to crack down on benefit fraud, reduce net migration and introduce a hillsborough law . introduce a hillsborough law. starmer will also pledge to crack down on benefit fraud , crack down on benefit fraud, reduce net migration and introduce a hillsborough law. it's so good you've just heard it twice. the speech comes amid anger over cuts to winter fuel payments , though, and scrutiny payments, though, and scrutiny of donations to senior labour figures . well, there's been figures. well, there's been disruption elsewhere at the
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labour conference party, labour party conference, rather as two youth demand supporters spray painted the words genocide at the entrance to the conference in liverpool, the protesters calling for an arms embargo on israel and halt on new uk oil and gas licences, were arrested after being tackled by police. the incident happened this morning outside the security check in in liverpool . israel is check in in liverpool. israel is ramping up attacks on hezbollah in lebanon, with airstrikes and tank fire hitting militants as thousands flee the region. israel's military chief has said this afternoon that the offensive will continue to intensify today, after 1600 militant targets have already been struck in just the last 24 hours. hezbollah have responded with rocket attacks on israeli military sites, including an airfield and an explosives factory. over 550 people have been killed so far, including 50 children, as lebanese families have packed highways and started to flee south. lebanon's
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government, meanwhile, is setting up 89 shelters for its 26,000 displaced residents . 26,000 displaced residents. here, the government says securing an agreement with striking nurses is an essential step to restoring restoring pubuc step to restoring restoring public services after they turned down a 5.5% pay rise. two thirds of royal college of nursing members voted against that deal in a record turnout. labour minister pat mcfadden insists the government does understand the challenge of balancing public spending while trying to treat workers fairly. but shadow health secretary victoria atkins claims the labour government has lost control of public sector pay . control of public sector pay. and finally, a skydiver has pulled off a world first stunt combining skydiving and surfing in abu dhabi, sebastian alvarez jumped from a helicopter with a surfboard strapped to his feet, landing directly on the water. video here shows the incredible feat with alvarez releasing his parachute mid—air and riding the waves. the adrenaline junkie
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called the achievement a lifelong dream, blending his love of both skydiving and surfing. he credited that surfing. he credited that surfing roots the perfect wave and the perfect weather made the stunt possible . those are the stunt possible. those are the latest headlines for now. i may be back with you in half an hour unless i get upstaged by sir keir starmer for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gb news. >> .com forward slash alerts . >> .com forward slash alerts. >> .com forward slash alerts. >> cheers! britannia wine club proudly sponsors the gb news financial report . financial report. >> and before i go, here's a quick look at the markets for you this afternoon. the pound will buy you $1.3374 and ,1.2004. the price of gold, £1,966.33 per ounce. and the ftse 100 is at 8287 points.
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>> welcome back to good afternoon britain. it is now 139 now charlie peters, our national reporter. he's noticed something that was missing in yvette cooper's speech. she made absolutely no reference to why they haven't actually scrapped they haven't actually scrapped the rwanda act . apparently, the the rwanda act. apparently, the rwanda act still remains on the statute books , months after sir statute books, months after sir keir starmer said that plan was deadin keir starmer said that plan was dead in the water. well, joining me now to discuss this is charlie peters himself. charlie, this is quite perplexing that the rwanda act is still on the statute books , despite all the statute books, despite all the talk of wanting to scrap it asap . talk of wanting to scrap it asap. >> yes, well, it does take a long time. the legislative process for repealing acts of
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parliament. so that's perhaps why the government has not yet started it . but lord kempsell, started it. but lord kempsell, a tory peer in the house of lords, earlier this month, asked the government for an update on when it planned to repeal the safety of rwanda act if so, when it would kick on with that process . would kick on with that process. so a labour lord in the home office replied later in the month , saying that the normal month, saying that the normal process will be underway in due course. but there's been no further update on that front now. lord kempsell told me that for all the government's criticism, they have not actually abolished it yet, leaving the legislation on the statute book, he said there must be a reason for this, and it comes at a time when the prime minister, sir keir starmer, has been seen to be flirting with the italians. rwanda style deal with albania, where meloni has her own off shore deportation facilities. on that visit, which
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gb news also attended to italy earlier this month, he said let's see, it's early days . i'm let's see, it's early days. i'm interested in how that works. i think everybody else is. it's very , very early days. in very, very early days. in reaction to this story of dugan, up with the lord kempsell, who's part based on the information that the government hasn't gone through with giving information on when it might repeal the rwanda act. i also spoke to a couple of migration commentators and experts. alp mehmet, who chairs migration watch uk, told me that the labour government will be forced into another offshore deportation plan. he said that so far they've been naive and unprepared . the home naive and unprepared. the home office did not respond to me when i asked him to give a response to lord kemsley's comments . comments. >> i mean, charlie, would it be potentially useful for the labour government to keep the rwanda act on the statute books if they are looking at other sort of third party arrangements, third country
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arrangements, third country arrangements for offshore processing, or for deportations and the like? i mean, could that be so ? right. i believe we have be so? right. i believe we have lost charlie peters, so i'll never know the answer to that question. but perhaps that is the case. perhaps, perhaps, it might be quite useful if they were to pursue a similar policy with a different country. it certainly can't be rwanda anymore, but won't cross back to the labour party conference in liverpool, where tom harwood is and tom is going to. apparently, i believe so. anyway, going to give us a little walkabout at the conference, see what is going on. tom, are you there for us? look, tom, thank you very much. and you were very much the labour party conference, but i have to disappoint you. >> i'm not going to do a walkabout. oh, no. you're letting me down. i'm here at the stand. >> well, the stand is fabulous. the stand has been very busy all day, which is fantastic to see. tell us. we've seen the long, meandering queues for keir starmer. we've seen a couple of
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people be rather rude and hostile towards gb news. actually, i think making some what they appear to be clever points but weren't very much. but we did speak to a few people waiting in the queue. they were looking for something a bit more optimistic from the prime minister. not sure to what say about freebie gate and all of that, but what will keir starmer say today? how is he going to change the mood? >> yeah, it's been a bit of a damp conference for several reasons. number one, it's rained every single day and the delegates have literally been damp trudging around this conference hall. but also, of course, we've seen the scandal that has mired this new government. just a couple of months into its time in office, and the polls have turned south. we've seen scandals of donations, of appointments of all the rest of it. but can keir starmer today try and raise the roof? he will certainly be be applauded and cheered. that always happens at these leaders speeches. he might even be
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heckled a bit. of course, we saw that yesterday. we saw that in a big way last year when keir starmer got doused in glitter at the start of his speech. i'm sure the security will be incredibly tight. this is a ticketed event this year. they've been slowly letting people into the hall for the last half hour or so. but yes, not long now to go . i must not long now to go. i must mention, however, some of the other bits and bobs at this conference. i've managed to get my hands on a set of top trump like cards that have keir starmer's top team on them. i wonder if we can show this on the screen here. if we cut to here we go , here's rachel reeves here we go, here's rachel reeves and david lammy. you can see when they were first elected, their majority, their power rating. also we can compare to keir starmer here where you can see his power rating is through the roof . although some of the roof. although some of these, some of these cards remind us that the election
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wasn't all wonderful for the labour party. here is the health secretary, wes streeting. it shows his majority is just 528. he almost lost his seat in the general election thanks to some gaza independent candidates . but gaza independent candidates. but yes, that's a bit of fun that i thought would be nice to show everyone, there are there are the entire shadow cabinet and many others besides . so if you many others besides. so if you get bored at labour conference, you can always play a game of top trumps with your favourite labour character figures. >> well, tom, seeing as i'm billy nomates here in the studio in paddington, i hope you'll bnng in paddington, i hope you'll bring me back a pack as a little gift from your ventures to liverpool. why not? why not? i'll be waiting. i'll be waiting and hoping. absolutely. expectation. thank you. i hope they're not too expensive. not too expensive . too expensive. >> i'll tell you the truth. i didn't buy them, so i don't. i don't know, i'll have to. i'll have to. goodness me, there could have been a freebie. and they are made by a by a by some sort of pr organisation. public
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affairs agency. so they could well actually be a freebie. i'll find that out for you. >> well, thank you very much indeed. this is good afternoon, britain on gb news. we'll say goodbye to tom harwood for now. he'll be back a little bit later. i should just remind you that keir starmer will be taking to the stage very shortly indeed, in about 15 minutes or so. i believe he'll be taking to the stage. there'll be a video behind him and then he'll deliver his speech. we'll see how long it is. this is good afternoon britain on gb news now. in other news, the national trust's boss has admitted that 70% of the charity's staff are apparently union jack hating progressive activists. can that be
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break. okay. 149 is the time and we are just gearing up for keir starmer's speech. but first, the national trust director general has said something rather
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curious. she's admitted that 70% of the charity's staff are union jack hating progressive activists. yes, this was speaking at a labour party fringe event. the boss of the charity, hilary mcgrady, acknowledged that there was a gap between her staff's views and the views held by the wider public. and the views held by the wider pubuc.so and the views held by the wider public. so was she being honest? joining me now to discuss this is historian and broadcaster rafe heydel—mankoo, who i believe is with me . rafe. thank believe is with me. rafe. thank you very much indeed. can this be true? >> well, emily, i think this should be declared the year's least surprising statistic. i know nobody who's gone to any national trust property can be surprised that most of their staff are, you know, progressive activists who, you know , dislike activists who, you know, dislike the union flag. the founders of the union flag. the founders of the national trust and later figures involved in it, like my hero james lees—milne, were really motivated by love of nation. but i think that love of nafion nation. but i think that love of nation in the trust has become actively, you know, national self loathing . and that's really
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self loathing. and that's really the state of modern britain. and with the trust , i mean, what with the trust, i mean, what we've done is we've actually entrusted our national heritage to those people who actually actively despise our national heritage. and it's, you know, it's utter madness. you know, you might as well just make jeremy corbyn, the editor of the jerusalem post or get, you know , jerusalem post or get, you know, the monarchy, the republic anti—monarchy campaign group, to organise the coronation, because that's about as logical as this is. it's the only way you can. >> they've actually been talking today about how the monarchy apparently costs us all £500 million, which i've never, ever heard before . i was very much of heard before. i was very much of the impression that they brought in more than they took out of the public purse. but that's a discussion for another day. i mean, rafe, why would has there been a sort of has this been intended? have these people wanted to take over charities like the national trust for their political ends, or is it just something that happens? is it just the type of people who work in charities? >> this has been part of the long march through the
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institutions. the national trust is no different to any of our institutions. i mean, you know, i've been saying for a long time on this channel and elsewhere that people need to understand that people need to understand that britain is now a post—revolutionary society. so the buildings that house our institutions look the same, but the people who now run them bear no comparison to the generations who lovingly built and ran them. they are cuckoos in the nest, and we need to understand that. and of course, once you realise that, of course, it explains completely why you know the national trust and others have crudely tried to denigrate our national heroes and link them and their houses to colonialism and their houses to colonialism and slavery as they ludicrously tried to do with sir winston churchill and his beloved chartwell. we see it in the national trust putting out a calendar which celebrates, hindu and muslim festivals like diwali and muslim festivals like diwali and ramadan. but it omits all mention of christmas and easter.
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this is clearly deliberate. >> rafe. that can't be true, can it ? they had a calendar that had it? they had a calendar that had hindu and muslim festivals, but not not christian. >> i mean , you couldn't make >> i mean, you couldn't make this up. you know, it's absolutely true . and i think, absolutely true. and i think, you know, the more that people realise that this is just part of that wider cultural war where all of our, our elites who run these institutions have so little in connection with the people who actually love going to these institutions, like the national trust and so forth. and of course , the people who go to of course, the people who go to national trust properties are actually more traditional than even the average person in the british population. and so what we can see here quite clearly is that, you know, all of the polling shows that, you know, 22% of the progressive activists who run places like the trust, like the country , compared to a like the country, compared to a majority of the british people who love the country, you know, 82%, i think it is. or 85% of progressive activists like those at the trust think immigration
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is a great, unalloyed good where actually it's only a minority of the wider public who believe that. and so, of course, when you go into a national trust, property used to be an occasion to celebrate and glory in british heritage. >> absolutely. and to see to see this director general actually admit this, is quite something, actually. rafe heydel—mankoo that gap there , we'll have to that gap there, we'll have to leave it there. but as always, very good to speak to you. this is good afternoon, britain on gb news. we've got lots more coming up on today's show. of course, of course, of course. up next, the prime minister, sir keir starmer, will be addressing the labour conference there is the conference hall live in liverpool. we'll be there right away after the weather. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar, sponsors of weather on gb news >> hello. welcome to your afternoon weather update from the met office here on gb. news should turn a bit drier for most overnight. quite a chilly night
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across the north before further rain returns to southern areas tomorrow . all the heavy rain tomorrow. all the heavy rain from the weekend and yesterday from the weekend and yesterday from this area of low pressure that has cleared away and it's been much drier today across england, but we have seen further rain coming in across northern scotland, with a northerly wind also feeling pretty chilly here. smattering of showers elsewhere , but of showers elsewhere, but they're tending to fade in many places. as i said, we'll have a dry night with clear skies going to turn quite chilly. the winds coming down from the north, bringing that colder air so likely to see a touch of frost. certainly across the mountains of scotland. towns and cities holding up a few degrees above freezing and quite mild again in the south, where there will be quite a lot of cloud and a bit of a grey start for southern counties of england. there'll be some rain here and there will be more showers coming in across northern scotland. but in these central parts, as i said, temperatures are going to be down close to freezing to start. wednesday should be some sunshine through the central belt across south west scotland. fine start for much of northern ireland. just a few showers coming into the north coast. quite a bit of cloud early on
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across parts of northern england. quite a grey start across much of southern england and south wales. generally a dry start here, but things will change. as i mentioned at the start, we are going to see more rain pushing back in here as we go through the day, spreading across south—west england quite early on and then into south wales, later into the south—east of england and the midlands. of course, much of northern britain bar the odd shower here and there, many places actually dry and bright for most of tomorrow, but it will be on the cool side. temperatures a touch below average, struggling into the teens further south, a little bit milder, but with the rain it won't feel all that pleasant. and we're not done with the rain. far from it. further heavy and persistent rain to come over parts of northern england, north wales, northern ireland and southern scotland on thursday, there's a met office warning in place for parts of northeast england where that rain could cause some further disruption in the south. turning a little brighter and a little milder, that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors
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gb news. >> good afternoon britain. it's 2:00 on tuesday, the 24th of september. i'm emily carver and i'm tom harwood live at the labour party conference, where in the next couple of minutes the labour party leader and now prime minister, sir keir starmer will be speaking. >> stay tuned to hear precisely what he has to say. >> yes, as you say, tom, we are very much gearing up to keir starmers speech. it will be coming in the next couple of minutes. the conference hall must be absolutely packed. there it is. we're looking at those pictures, tom. >> we are indeed . pictures, tom. >> we are indeed. i'm told pictures, tom. >> we are indeed . i'm told that >> we are indeed. i'm told that there will be a video that plays out before the prime minister walks onto that stage. so as soon as that video starts
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playing, we know we've got 3 or 4 minutes before the prime minister starts speaking, and there's been a lot of anticipation in the run up to this speech. we're expecting the prime minister to say something along the lines, that there is light at the end of the tunnel, a bit of a turnaround from the rhetoric of doom and gloom we've been hearing for the last couple of months, and instead trying to say that there is a brighter future somewhere , however future somewhere, however distant in the future , it still distant in the future, it still manages to sound quite negative , though. >> tom. you know, there may be people in this country, there may be some people in this country who don't believe they're in a tunnel and don't believe that the labour government are needed to bring them the light. >> you know, it's interesting if you look at consumer confidence, for example , that had been for example, that had been rising and rising and rising month on, month on month until data published this month, which actually shows the first sharp fall in consumer confidence.
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many economists are pointing to the rhetoric of the chancellor, the rhetoric of the chancellor, the rhetoric of the chancellor, the rhetoric of the prime minister, to some extent talking down the country and actually damaging economic confidence as a result. could it be that we might talk ourselves into a downturn, that some economists believe is a real risk ? believe is a real risk? >> now, one issue that keir starmer has found difficult to talk about is immigration. but you're saying that he is going to be talking about that. >> yes. we expect keir starmer to say that he is not content with the current high levels of migration, and we expect him to promise to bring the numbers down now , obviously anyone who's down now, obviously anyone who's seen the trend of the last year or so and the effect of the reforms that robert jenrick brought in as immigration minister. immigration is expected to fall very considerably this year anyway . considerably this year anyway. so to that extent, keir starmer
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really doesn't have to change any policy at all. he will benefit from policy that the last government introduced in its last few months in office. so it might be a bit of a statement of the obvious saying that migration will come down under this government because frankly, if they're not going to change the policy, it would have come down under any government. >> yes. and yvette cooper gave her speech a little bit earlier. and all she mentioned in regards to immigration in terms of getting it down, was training young people in this country, which of course would be a fantastic thing. but whether that's really an immigration policy, i don't know. but tom, of course, there has been quite a lot of negative headlines, i think, to say the least. tom, not least about the winter fuel allowance, but also about freebie gate. wardrobe gate, donor gate, whatever you want to call it. how much of an issue is that for him? >> yes, i think that will of course dog keir starmer throughout the conference and indeed throughout the speech . indeed throughout the speech. this is the contrast that really
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the political opponents of the labour party have been pressing and pressing and pressing, but not just those outside of the labour party. i mean the conservative party for instance, has a poster campaign throughout liverpool around this conference pointing out the labour mps who voted to cut winter fuel payments. there is also, i should say, we're just looking at the amount of tom. >> sorry to just interrupt. we're just looking at the conference hall now. there is a young chap who looks like he's about to introduce keir starmer , about to introduce keir starmer, but we will continue on. we will continue on till keir starmer does arrive. shall we go? you can have a little listen. sure. >> shall we have a listen a little listen to what he's saying. >> looks very different to mine at my age. my mum left school at 16 and got a job. my dad, he grew up in ireland. he left school with no qualifications, taking any job he could, working on washing machines and building sites to get by. he migrated to england and one day he decided to go to night college. after a
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shift that changed his life, he got his btecs, he went to university, he got a steady job and so when i was growing up, both my parents knew better than anyone else. how education can change your life . change your life. and they were determined that i would get that chance too. i went to a comprehensive school in a deprived area, and when i started, it was a good school, but at the time i left, it was in special measures, not because the teachers didn't care, they did, but because the government didn't seem to care about kids like us. so when i started at sixth form, initially , the idea sixth form, initially, the idea that i might one day go to university wasn't even in my mind. it was my parents who supported me, encouraged me, and told me anything was possible. similarly friends and peers have also gone on to university and become skilled tradespeople. but how many other people didn't know and were never told that there was a world out there that
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needed their talent? how many people still don't know what they are capable of, because their parents never had the chance to find out what they could do, or their grandparents never got the opportunities that they deserved. no one ever stepped in to give them that chance to break the cycle, and to tell them that this country not just wants them, but needs them to succeed. keir starmer , them to succeed. keir starmer, our new prime minister. he was the first in his family to go to university. like my dad, he understands how opportunities can transform people's lives and that everyone deserves a chance to find out what they can do, discover what they love and be respected for what they offer. his labour government has already started giving people that chance. this short film will show you what they've done so far .
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labour has . labour has. >> right. well, this is the warm up video ahead of keir starmer taking to the stage. we just heard from matthew, who is a labour voter telling his story of how he went to a deprived school and he had the idea that one day he would go to university , encouraged by his university, encouraged by his parents, and that we often hear these stories from individuals in the run up to a speech like
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this at a conference, keir starmer will be coming onto the stage in just a couple of minutes this is just a little video to give us a taste of what's to come. >> emily, i thought it was a strange choice to show someone who actually achieved their dream of going to university. clearly, he went to school under the previous government. a lot of independent education analysis said that the gove reforms are pretty successful . reforms are pretty successful. is now on stage. >> tom and ellie we must listen. thank you . thank you. thank you. thank you. thank you . thank you. >> thank you . thank you >> thank you. thank you. thank you very much. conference. thank you very much. conference. thank you , thank you . thank you.
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you, thank you. thank you. matthew for that introduction. that was really fantastic. you've broken through to university , but you stood on university, but you stood on this stage aged 21, to do something you've never done before. and not an easy thing to do. that was fantastic . and do. that was fantastic. and thank you , conference. thank you thank you, conference. thank you from the bottom of my heart. thank you conference for everything you have done to fulfil the basic duty of our party. our clause one, so we can return this great nation to the service of working people. thank you. conference .
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you. conference. the people said we couldn't do it, but we did and we did it together. and look at this now. a record breaking conference, the biggest attendance ever in our history. and such a far cry from my first conference speech to a live audience of one. the cameraman socially distanced in an arts centre in doncaster. remember that. centre in doncaster. remember that . don't worry, most people that. don't worry, most people don't . not not even the don't. not not even the cameraman . but i bet you do cameraman. but i bet you do remember the one the year later conference in brighton three years ago . the turning of the years ago. the turning of the tide, the fight for the heart
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and soul of this party. people said we were going too far. people said we were going too fast. they didn't want to face the country. they wanted to go back to a comfort zone, take the easier road to nowhere, duck the challenge of change. but we stood firm. conference. we stood together. conference and . together. conference and. we woi'i. won. so take pride in your victory. take pride that labour won in every single region in england. take pride that labour won in wales. take pride that won labourin wales. take pride that won labour in scotland .
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labour in scotland. but never forget that this opportunity is only here because we changed the party. country first, party second. that isn't a slogan. it's the foundation of this project, a pact with working people. we must fulfil to retain the privilege of serving their interests on economic stability, national security, wealth creation, protecting our borders, rooting out anti—semitism, standing with nato and ukraine. the changes we made are permanent, irreversible, and the work of service never stops. country first, party second. but conference for many people in this city, the speech they
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may remember was the one here two years ago. because that's when i promised on this stage that if i when i promised on this stage thatifi ever when i promised on this stage that if i ever had the privilege to serve our country as prime minister, one of my first acts would be to bring in a hillsborough law, a duty of candour. hillsborough law, a duty of candour . a law candour. a law? a law for liverpool. a law for the 97. a law that people shouldn't have had to fight so hard to get. that will be delivered by this labour government . it's also labour government. it's also a law for the subpostmasters in the horizon scandal. .the victims of infected blood windrush , of infected blood windrush, grenfell tower and all the countless injustices over the years suffered by working people
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at the hands of those who were supposed to serve them. truth and justice concealed behind the closed ranks of the state and conference. this is the meaning of clause one, because today i can confirm that the duty of candour will apply to public authorities and public servants . authorities and public servants. the bill will include criminal sanctions , and that the sanctions, and that the hillsborough law will be introduced to parliament before the next anniversary. in april . the next anniversary. in april. it's work that shows how a government of service must act in everything it does . our in everything it does. our driving purpose to show to the working people of this country that politics can be a force for
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good. politics can be on the side of truth and justice. politics can secure a better life for your family through the steady but uncompromising work of service. because service is the responsibility and opportunity of power, the precondition for hope, the bond of respect that can unite a country, bind us to the politics of national renewal service doesn't mean we'll get everything right. it doesn't mean everyone will agree . but it mean everyone will agree. but it does mean we understand that every decision we take, we take together and that it is our duty together and that it is our duty to the british people to face up to the british people to face up to necessary decisions in their interests . and i mean interests. and i mean conference, you know, me by now. so you know all those shouts and
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bellows , the bad faith advice bellows, the bad faith advice from people who still hanker for the politics of noisy performance, the weak and cowardly fantasy of populism. it's water off a duck's back . it's water off a duck's back. a mere glitter on a shirt cuff . a mere glitter on a shirt cuff. it's never distracted me before, and it won't distract me now. this is a long term project. i've never pretended otherwise, but conference make no mistake, the work of change has begun. the patient, calm, determined era of politics. as service has begun. era of politics. as service has begun . planning reformed doctors
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begun. planning reformed doctors back in theatre. new solo projects, new offshore wind projects. the onshore ban lifted. great british energy launched one word ofsted judgements ended a border security command, a national wealth fund getting britain building again, the renters reform bill, stopping no fault evictions, and the railway services bill bringing railways back into public ownership . and we're only just getting
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started. a crackdown on knife crime, a real living wage, a modern industrial strategy, a ten year plan for our nhs, devolution to our nation's regions and cities, the biggest levelling up of workers rights in a generation. more teachers, more neighbourhood police, more operations, rebuilding our pubuc operations, rebuilding our public services. change has begun. public services. change has begun . and every begun. and every single one. a necessary step on a longer journey. five national missions that will deliver the higher growth, the safer streets, the cleaner energy, the greater opportunities, the healthier society that i know the british people want and need . the people want and need. the mandate that won .
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mandate that won. we but also something even more precious our economy stabilised. the foundations of this country fixed tory rot cleared away. so brick by brick we can build a new home. a better home built to last, built with pride, but above all built together . a above all built together. a nafion above all built together. a nation rebalanced so that it once again serves the interests of working people and through the power unleashed by that process, a renewal of who we are a country that gives equal voice to every person, a country that won't expect you to change who you are just to get on. a country that doesn't just work for you and your family, but one that recognises you, that sees you and respects you as part of our story. a britain that belongs to you .
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belongs to you. because make no mistake , that is because make no mistake, that is the britain we are building . the britain we are building. change isn't a few lines on a graph moving in the right direction? change isn't a good labour policy or two delivered, while the broader settlement remains untouched. no change must mean nothing less than national renewal, not a return to the old ways, nor a new path entirely, but a rediscovery in the full glare of the future of who we are. the trouble is conference, just as we found with the labour party four years ago, britain is no longer sure of itself. our story is uncertain. the hope beaten out of us. there's pride , of course.
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of us. there's pride, of course. there is pride in our communities especially. and there's respect too , all around there's respect too, all around there's respect too, all around the world. trust me , nobody, the world. trust me, nobody, anywhere doubts that this is a great nation, a nation known for our creativity , our artistic our creativity, our artistic skill, our scientific genius , skill, our scientific genius, and of course, our pragmatism quality. that, combined with the industry and pride of working people, have not just rewritten our own story, but also that of the world. we could do that again . in. again. in. in fact, we must. technology, climate change, the ageing population, the movement of people. this is a time when great forces demand a decisive government prepared to face the future. we can see that again in the middle east today.
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future. we can see that again in the middle east today . so i call the middle east today. so i call again for restraint and de—escalation at the border between lebanon and israel. again, again, all parties to pull back from the brink. i call again for an immediate ceasefire in gaza. the return of the sausages, the hostages and a recommitment to the two state solution , a recognised solution, a recognised palestinian state alongside a safe and secure israel . and safe and secure israel. and that's the message i will take to the un general assembly when i travel there later today , i travel there later today, alongside our steadfast support for ukraine in the face of russian aggression . and russian aggression. and in this uncertain world, i also pay
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tribute to our armed forces for all they do to keep britain safe . all they do to keep britain safe. but conference strength in this dangerous world depends on strength at home. and yet look at our country. look at our country. do you see a britain where people feel with the certainty that they deserve , certainty that they deserve, that the future will be better for their children? because when i was growing up, that's what we believed people of a completely ordinary working class background like mine , we took it background like mine, we took it for granted. we built our lives around it. but that is not the country we inherited. in july. that confidence that certainty. it's brittle and fragile. and so
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we have to restore it. that is the mandate we won the meaning of . of. change. and it all comes back to that question can politics be a force for good in people's lives? there's no time to waste wondering why people think politics has failed. we have to show what it can do for their lives. restore after 14 years of chaos, faith in the values that have always guided this nation. the stability , moderation, the the stability, moderation, the common sense , keeping a cool common sense, keeping a cool head, staying the course , facing head, staying the course, facing the future, the defiance of ambition, the determination of service and above all, our faith . service and above all, our faith. no matter the challenge in practice , solutions that work
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practice, solutions that work not not the easy answers that may well move a crowd, but do not move a nation forward. no . not move a nation forward. no. conference. we know that way lies ruin . we've seen it in our lies ruin. we've seen it in our party and we changed it. and for 14 years, against our country's best traditions. we've seen it in britain , and now we must in britain, and now we must change that to we must build a new britain built from that age old spirit of creativity and enterprise. the pride and ambition of working people that, when matched by a government of service, a decisive government , service, a decisive government, a government prepared to use its powers for justice, opportunity and equal respect, can deliver a britain that belongs to you, a britain that belongs to you, a
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britain that belongs to you, a britain that belongs to you. because politics sees public service as a privilege, not a privilege, as an entitlement to pubuc privilege, as an entitlement to public service . a britain that public service. a britain that belongs to you because government is mission driven and serious, clear, measurable targets , progress displayed targets, progress displayed publicly. so every single person in this country can judge our performance on actions, not words. a britain that belongs to you because we maintain our focus at all times on fixing those foundations for working people. those five national missions providing the security and control they need. but also protecting us from the whims of westminster, making sure that we don't get blown off course, and a britain that belongs to you because we came together and together we built it because this has to be a partnership. we
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won't achieve our missions alone . won't achieve our missions alone. i understand the power and responsibility of government the way it can make or break a life. when your chief prosecutor , when when your chief prosecutor, when you look into the eyes of victims who've lost everything, parents whose daughter was raped and murdered , as i did with and murdered, as i did with penny and john, trust me, you learn about what government can and must do. and i also know from the campaigners who have inspired me, pooja and nakita kanda , figen murray, people who kanda, figen murray, people who fight tirelessly against murder and terrorism. so no other family will suffer their awful pain. nathaniel. die who fights
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for a better nhs so no other person will suffer his fatal late cancer diagnosis. the families and survivors of grenfell tower, whose dignity for seven years held up a mirror to this nation and asked us do we really give everyone an equal voice ? they have all shown that voice? they have all shown that the difference between service and government true service, is that service must listen to people far beyond the walls of the state and empower them to make our country better. because trust me, that is without question the quickest way to clear away the tory rot and build that britain that belongs to you .
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to you. and so change begins because there is another injustice hiding in plain sight in our streets, in every town and city in this country, people who were prepared to make the ultimate sacrifice for our nation, who put their lives on the line to protect all of us, but who will not have a safe place to sleep tonight. we cannot stand by and let this happen any more . so let this happen any more. so today i can announce that this government will respect that service. we will repay those who served us and house all veterans in housing need. homes will be there for heroes . and there for heroes. and. for.
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thank you . and because thank you. and because we've started the hard yards of planning reform, because we're facing up to decisions ignored for years, because we're introducing new planning passports that will turbocharge housebuilding in our inner cities, we can make the very same promise to other people at risk of homelessness. young care leavers, victims of domestic abuse they will have the security they deserve. they will have a roof over their head because britain belongs to them . because britain belongs to them. tric award .
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tric award. and another thing. conference. another promise kept. we said gb energy , our publicly owned energy, our publicly owned national champion . the vehicle national champion. the vehicle that will drive forward our mission on clean energy. we said it belonged in scotland and it does. it belonged in scotland and it does . but the truth is it could does. but the truth is it could only really ever be based in one place in scotland. so today i can confirm that the future of british energy will be powered as it has been for decades, by the talent and skills of the working people in the granite city with gb energy, based in aberdeen .
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aberdeen. this is how the work of change happens. a decisive mission led government moving our country forward step by step, focused on a long term plan that first we stabilise our economy . second, stabilise our economy. second, we fix the foundation. and third, we build with pride and determination a britain that belongs to you . but it will be belongs to you. but it will be hard. that's not rhetoric , it's hard. that's not rhetoric, it's reality. it's not just that financial black hole. the £22 billion of unfunded spending commitments concealed from our country by the tories. it's not just the societal black hole our pubuc just the societal black hole our public services decimated communities held together with
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little more than goodwill. it's also the political black hole because the politics of national renewal, they're collective. they involve a shared struggle, a project that says to everyone, this will be tough in the short term. but in the long term, it's the right thing to do for our country, and we all benefit from that. to coin a phrase, we're all in it together . but but. that. to coin a phrase, we're all in it together . but but . but all in it together. but but. but that's just it, isn't it? all in it together. but but. but that's just it, isn't it ? people that's just it, isn't it? people have heard it all before, and they listened. i ran a public service in the early days of austerity . people did everything austerity. people did everything asked of them to find a way forward. they did it in the pandemic as well, saved the lives of people they will never
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meet. all while their government broke the very rules that they followed. and so people ask us now, as we seek patience in pursuit of national renewal, what will we get to show for it? i understand that after all, what they're used to is a lie, an act, a charade , a an act, a charade, a performance. you may call it populism. many people do , but i populism. many people do, but i prefer to call it the politics of easy answers, because at its core, that's what it is a deliberate refusal to countenance tough decisions, because the political pain is just too much party first, country second. take rwanda, a policy they knew from the
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beginning would never work, was never supposed to work. £700 million of your money frittered away on something that was never away on something that was never a credible option, because politically it was an easier answer . and just look at politically it was an easier answer. and just look at the difference. you can make if you bnng difference. you can make if you bring the curtain down on the show. a 23% increase in returns of people who have no right to be here compared with last summer. but it's not just rwanda . summer. but it's not just rwanda. it was the same story on everything . energy security, the everything. energy security, the housing crisis, telling people they're tough on crime without building enough prison places , building enough prison places, 14 years of performance, 14 years of exploiting problems, not solving them, mining the pits of division, searching them for conflict, fixing your attention on those issues, not on growth, technology, climate change, public services, the ageing population, the cost of
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living crisis, or any of the challenges that this country desperately needed to face up to . desperately needed to face up to. well, those challenges are still here. conference and we are facing up to them. but do not forget what they did and do not let them attempt to shift the blame, because the state of our country is on them . why? why country is on them. why? why must we release prisoners early? because the tories served themselves. why are our public services on their knees? because the tories served themselves. why is crime routinely unpunished? our rivers, polluted borders insecure, school roofs crumbling, child poverty
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rampant. nothing seems to work. our public finances broken because for 14 years the tories performed the politics of easy answers. rather than use the power of government to serve our country . country. yet still those wounds of trust must be healed . still, that must be healed. still, that question calls to us what will we get to show for it ? so let me we get to show for it? so let me answer that directly and address anyone nervous about the difficult road ahead , because i difficult road ahead, because i know this country is exhausted by and with politics. i know that the cost of living crisis drew a veil over the joy and wonder in our lives , and that wonder in our lives, and that people want respite and relief. may even have voted labour for
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that reason . so first, let me be that reason. so first, let me be clear . our project that reason. so first, let me be clear. our project has not. and never will change. i changed the labor party to restore it to the service of working people, and thatis service of working people, and that is exactly what we will do for britain. but i will not do it with easy answers. i will not do it with false hope. not now, not ever. that's how we got here in the first place. so i know after everything you've been through, how hard it is to hear a politician ask for more . but a politician ask for more. but deep down i think you also know that our country does need a long term plan and that we can't turn back the state of our country is real. however i would
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also say this . this is a also say this. this is a government of service. and that means whether we agree or not, i will always treat you with the respect of candour, not the distraction of bluster and the truth is that if we take tough, long term decisions now, if we stick to the driving purpose behind everything we do, higher economic growth. so living standards rise in every community. our nhs, facing the future , waiting lists at your future, waiting lists at your hospital down safer streets in your community, stronger borders , your community, stronger borders, more opportunities for your children. clean british energy powering your home then that light at the end of this tunnel that britain that belongs to you. we get there much more quickly .
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quickly. and look, i understand that many of the decisions we must take will be unpopular if they were popular, they'd be easy. but the cost of filling that black hole in our public finances that will be shared fairly. we will get the welfare bill down because we will tackle long term sickness and support people back to work . and support people back to work. we will make every penny work for you because we will root out, waste and go over tax avoiders. there will be no stone left unturned , no innovation left unturned, no innovation ignored, no return to tory austerity . we will rebuild our austerity. we will rebuild our pubuc austerity. we will rebuild our public service, protect working people and do this in a labour way and that is a promise . that.
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way and that is a promise. that. and if you can't take that on faith, perhaps because you're concerned about the winter fuel allowance, then i get that. as i say , if this path were popular say, if this path were popular or easy, we'd have walked it already . but the risk of showing already. but the risk of showing to the world as the tories did, that this country does not fund its policies properly. that is a risk we can never take again. stabilising our economy is the first step of this long term plan. the only way we keep pnces plan. the only way we keep prices down cut nhs waiting lists and secure the triple lock so that every pensioner in this country , every pensioner, will country, every pensioner, will be better off with .
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be better off with. labour. but more broadly , i also say but more broadly, i also say this that as we take on those massive challenges, the tories ignored , the time is long ignored, the time is long overdue for politicians to level with you about the trade offs this country faces, because if the last few years have shown us anything, it's that if you bury your head because things are difficult, your country goes backwards. so if we want justice to be served , some communities to be served, some communities must live close to new prisons. if we want to maintain support for the welfare state, then we will legislate to stop benefit fraud, do everything we can to tackle worklessness if we want cheaper electricity, we need new pylons, overground . otherwise pylons, overground. otherwise the burden on taxpayers is too
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much . if we want home ownership much. if we want home ownership to be a credible aspiration for our children, then every community has a duty to contribute to that purpose. if we want to tackle . and if we we want to tackle. and if we want to tackle illegal migration seriously , we can't pretend that seriously, we can't pretend that there's a magical process that allows you to return people here unlawfully without accepting that process will also grant some people asylum . some people asylum. and if we're serious about levelling up, then we must be proud to be the party of wealth creation, unashamed to partner with the private sector and perhaps most importantly of all
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that just because we all want low tax and good public services , low tax and good public services, that does not mean that the iron law of properly funding policies can be ignored because it can't. we've seen the damage that that does, and i will not let that happen again. i will not let tory economic recklessness hold back the working people of this country . country. and let me tell you something else i won't let happen. i will never let a minority of violent, racist thugs terrorise our communities .
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thank you . thank you . thank you. thank you. >> look , i have always accepted >> look, i have always accepted that concerns about immigration are legitimate. >> it is as point of fact, the policy of this government to reduce both net migration and our economic dependency upon it. ihave our economic dependency upon it. i have never thought we should be relaxed about some sectors importing labour when there are millions of young people, ambitious and highly talented, who are desperate to work and contribute to their community. and trust me, there are plenty of examples of apprenticeship starts going down at the very same time that visa application for the same skills are going up .
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for the same skills are going up. so we will get tough on this. but at the same time, we will also get our skills system right. we've got to give businesses more flexibility to adapt to real training needs and also unlock the pride , the also unlock the pride, the ambition, the pull of the badge on the shirt that young people feel when building a future. not just for themselves but for their community. so we will introduce new foundation apprenticeships rebalanced funding in our training system back to young people. align that with what businesses really need.the with what businesses really need. the first step to a youth guarantee that will eradicate inactivity and unemployment for our young people. once and for.
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all. but conference, whatever anyone thinks about immigration, i will never accept the argument made not just by the usual suspects, but by people who should have known better. who said that millions of people concerned about immigration are one, and the same thing as the people who smashed up businesses, who targeted mosques, attempted to burn refugees , scrawled racist burn refugees, scrawled racist graffiti over walls, nazi salutes at the cenotaph attacked nhs nurses and told people with different coloured skin. people who contribute here, people who grew up here that they should go home. no no .
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home. no no. no . no. conference. no. conference. no conference. people. people concerned about immigration would not doing that because they understand that this country, this democratic country, this democratic country, is built on the rule of law . the ballot box, the common law. the ballot box, the common understanding that we debate our differences, we do not settle them with violent thuggery and racism is vile . racism is vile. thank you .
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thank you. and conference. so to those who equivocate about this , those who equivocate about this, i simply say the country sees you and it rejects you . and to you and it rejects you. and to those who say that the only way to love your country is to hate your neighbour because they look different . i say, not only do we different. i say, not only do we reject you, we know that you will never win because the british values we for , stand not british values we for, stand not just the rule of law, but a love for this country and our neighbours. the respect for difference under the same flag thatis difference under the same flag that is stronger than bricks and you know it. it's what you cannot stand about our country, our reasonable, tolerant country . our reasonable, tolerant country. but it is absolutely who we are .
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no conference. the debate is not about the worth of migrants. thatis about the worth of migrants. that is toxic and we must move beyond it . it's about control of beyond it. it's about control of migration. it's always been about control. that is what people have voted for time and again. and look, they weren't just ignored. after brexit, the tories gave them the exact opposite, an immigration system deliberately reformed to reduce control because in the end they are the party of the uncontrolled market. now don't
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get me wrong, markets are dynamic. competition is a vital life force in our economy. this is a labour party proud to say that we work hand in hand with business, but markets don't give you control . that's almost you control. that's almost literally their point . so if you literally their point. so if you want a country with more control, if you want the great forces that affect your community to be better managed , community to be better managed, whether that's migration, climate change law and order or security at work, then that does mean more decisive government and that is a labour government taking back control is a labour argument . argument. and it's why i say we're rebalancing our country to serve working people , because this is working people, because this is a question of balance. we can't
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afford any more polluted rivers. we can't afford any more covid contracts. we can't afford any more grenfell towers. we have to become serious and mission led, have to put respect and service deepin have to put respect and service deep in the bones of our institutions. that's not a debate about investment or reform. it's always been both . reform. it's always been both. but again, i have to warn you, working people do want a more decisive government. they do want to us rebuild our public services, and they do want that to lead to more control in their lives. but their pockets are not deep, not at all. so we have to be a great reforming government. our nhs reformed so patients have more control over their health. our energy system reformed, so our country has more control over its security. police and justice reformed . so
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police and justice reformed. so communities have more control of their streets , education their streets, education reformed, so children have more control of their future and our economy reformed with the unique force that is economic growth, giving every community the breathing space, the calm, the control to focus on the little things they love in life, not the anxiety and insecurity we have now because we do need joy. we do need that in our lives. and one place that has always done that for me. conference. i told you about it last year. it's the lake district, a place that my mum loved. not just because of what it meant to her, her determination to show that she could walk in a place like that. she could walk in a place like that . but because of the beauty that. but because of the beauty everywhere . and last year i took
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everywhere. and last year i took my family to the old cottage where we used to stay as children in the lake district. we walked up to the cottage, stood outside. it must have looked a little odd and the couple who lived there now they came out. they were lovely and when we told them why we were there , they said, well, come there, they said, well, come inside, go upstairs , take a walk inside, go upstairs, take a walk down memory lane. so we did. came back outside. we were chatting and then the woman stopped suddenly and said , stopped suddenly and said, someone's nicking your car. and i said, no, no, no, that's the police moving the car. and that , police moving the car. and that, that really confused her. anyway, at this point , her anyway, at this point, her husband comes in and he says, you haven't clocked , have you? you haven't clocked, have you? he's the leader of the
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opposition , a politician, and opposition, a politician, and she stopped, smiled , laughed and she stopped, smiled, laughed and said politely, if i'd known you were a politician, i'd have pushed you down the stairs. when i had the chance. the beauty of the lake district and the heart of the british people, in a nutshell . but seriously, when nutshell. but seriously, when you're walking around in a place like the langdale valley, when you can see the grass there every bit as green as it was 14 years ago, it's a reminder and an inspiration that, yes, things change and some things need to change, but some things do not. and the joy and wonder of our nation, the spirit of its people, the cleaners, the drivers , small business owners, drivers, small business owners, teachers, teaching assistants, the people who came out and cleaned the streets , the cleaned the streets, the brickies who rebuilt the broken walls in southport, the backbone
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of this country. they are just as resilient as they were 14 years ago. and no matter what loudmouth say on social media, their values are the same. so we will turn our collar up and face the storm. we will rise above the storm. we will rise above the challenges that we've inherited because this is a country with fairness in the water that believes in justice and that wants working people to be respected . be respected. and also for opportunities to be there for your children , because there for your children, because conference, one of the other things that gave me great joy as a kid, as well as the football, obviously was the flute . i don't obviously was the flute. i don't think you're expecting that. were you ? but seriously, the
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were you? but seriously, the flute gave me so many opportunities. my first ever trip abroad was to malta with the croydon youth philharmonic orchestra . and i'm sure everyone orchestra. and i'm sure everyone here will know the feeling of being drawn in by music, getting lost in something bigger than yourself, or being moved by a book, a painting, a play. even now , i turned to beethoven or now, i turned to beethoven or brahms in those moments when, how to put it, the reviews aren't so good. i've got shostakovich lined up for tomorrow , but these early tomorrow, but these early encounters with art and culture, they change us forever and we are brilliant at them in this country. brilliant but those
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opportunities don't go to every child. do they? my brother , who child. do they? my brother, who had difficulties learning he didn't get those opportunities . didn't get those opportunities. every time i achieve something in my life, my dad used to say to me, your brother has achieved just as much as you care . and he just as much as you care. and he was right . i just as much as you care. and he was right. i still just as much as you care. and he was right . i still believe that . was right. i still believe that. but this is what we do in this country, isn't it? we elevate the stories of the individuals who go to the guildhall school of music, the prime minister, from a pebble dashed semi, the working class few who do break through the glass ceiling. i don't blame anyone for that . i don't blame anyone for that. i am guilty of it. it gives hope to people. it's important to tell those stories , but it's not tell those stories, but it's not everyone , is it? and we must
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everyone, is it? and we must remember everyone. conference because everyone deserves . the. because everyone deserves. the. light up their lives and every child deserves the chance to study the creative subjects that widen their horizons , provide widen their horizons, provide skills employers do value, and prepares them for the future. the jobs and the world that they will inherit . will inherit. but more than that, every child, every person deserves to be respected for the contribution they make . my sister, my sister they make. my sister, my sister was a carer. i think this guy has obviously got a pass from
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the 2019 conference. we've changed the . party. while he's been protesting, we've been changing the party. that's why we've got a labour government . but government. but. conference. the point i was making is this every child, every person deserves to be respected for the contribution they make . my contribution they make. my sister was a care worker in the
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pandemic. she is still a care

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