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that span in it has tentacles that span in all continents. it has murdered more americans and more frenchmen than any group except bin laden. it's murdered the citizens of many countries represented in this room. and it has attacked israel viciously over the last 20 years. in the last year, completely unprovoked. a day after hamas massacre on october 7th, hezbollah began attacks against israel, which forced more than 60,000 israelis on our northern border to leave their homes , border to leave their homes, becoming refugees in their own land. becoming refugees in their own land . hezbollah turned vibrant land. hezbollah turned vibrant towns in the north of israel into ghost towns. so i want you to think about this in equivalent american terms. just imagine if terrorists turned el paso in san diego into ghost towns. then ask yourself, how
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long would the american government tolerate that? a day , government tolerate that? a day, a week, a month. i doubt they tolerated even for a single day . tolerated even for a single day. yet israel has been tolerating this intolerable situation for nearly a year. well, i've come here today to say enough is enough. here today to say enough is enough . we won't rest until our enough. we won't rest until our citizens can return safely to their homes. we will not accept a terror army perched on our northern border, able to perpetrate another october 7th style massacre. for 18 years, hezbollah brazenly refused to implement un security council resolution 1701, which requires it to move its forces away from our borders. instead, hezbollah moved right up to our border. they secretly dug terror tunnels
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to infiltrate our communities and indiscriminately fired thousands of rockets into our towns and villages. they fire these rockets and missiles not from military sites, not from that. they do that too, but they fire those rockets and missiles after they placed them in schools, in hospitals, in apartment buildings, and in the private homes of the citizens of lebanon. they endanger their own people. they put a missile in every kitchen. a rocket in every garage. i said to the people of lebanon this week, get out of the death trap that hezbollah has put you in. don't let nasrallah drag lebanon into the abyss. we're not at war with you. we're at war with hezbollah, which has your country and threatens to destroy ours. as long as hezbollah chooses the path of war, israel
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has no choice . and israel has has no choice. and israel has every right to remove this threat and return our citizens to their homes safely . and to their homes safely. and that's exactly what we're doing . that's exactly what we're doing. just this week, the idf destroyed large percentages of hezbollah's rockets, which had built with iran's funding for three decades. we took out senior military commanders who not only shed israeli blood, but american and french blood as well. and then we took out their replacements and then the replacements and then the replacements of their replacements, and we'll continue degrading hezbollah until all our objectives are made . ladies our objectives are made. ladies and gentlemen, we're committed to removing the curse of
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terrorism that threatens all civilised societies. but to truly realise the blessing of a new middle east, we must continue the path we paved with the abraham accords four years ago. above all, this means achieving a historic peace agreement between israel and saudi arabia . and having seen saudi arabia. and having seen the blessings that we've already brought with the abraham accords , brought with the abraham accords, the millions of israelis who've already flown back and forth across the arabian peninsula over the skies of saudi arabia, to the gulf countries , the to the gulf countries, the trade, the tourism, the joint ventures, the peace, the peace. i say to you , what blessings i say to you, what blessings such a peace with saudi arabia would bring. it would be a boon to the security and economy of
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our two countries. it would boost trade and tourism across the region. it would help transform the middle east into a global juggernaut. transform the middle east into a global juggernaut . our two global juggernaut. our two countries could cooperate on energy , water, agriculture, energy, water, agriculture, artificial intelligence and many, many other fields. such a peace. i'm sure, would be a true pivot of history. it would usher in a historic reconciliation between the arab world and israel , between islam between the arab world and israel, between islam and judaism, between mecca and jerusalem. while israel is committed to achieving such a peace, iran and its terror proxies are committed to scuttling it. that's why one of the best ways to foil iran's nefarious designs is to achieve the peace. such a peace would be the peace. such a peace would be the foundation for an even broader abrahamic alliance, and that alliance would include the united states, israel and arab peace partners , saudi arabia and peace partners, saudi arabia and
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others who choose the blessing of peace. it would advance security and prosperity across the middle east and bring enormous benefits to the rest of the world. with american support and leadership, i believe this vision can materialise and much sooner than people think. and as the prime minister of israel, i will do everything in my power to make it happen. this is an opportunity that we and the world should not let go . by. world should not let go. by. ladies and gentlemen , israel has ladies and gentlemen, israel has made its choice. we seek to move forward to a bright age of prosperity and peace. iran and its proxies have also made their choice. they want to move back to a dark age of terror and war. and now i have a question . and i and now i have a question. and i pose that question to you. what
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choice will you make? will your nafion choice will you make? will your nation stand with israel and jordan show on friday afternoon ? jordan show on friday afternoon? >> we you join us here on the tail end of the benjamin netanyahu. >> that's the israeli prime minister addressing the united nations. you can see there are some empty seats, including saudi arabia and some of the some of the states. >> shall we say, not too sympathetic towards israel in this conflict. a quick summary of what benjamin netanyahu was saying there. >> he said israel is fighting for its life. he said this war can come to an end. now all that has to happen is for hamas to surrender, to lay down its arms and to release all hostages. he then was in no placatory mood around hezbollah and lebanon. he said hezbollah fired rockets from schools, from houses, from residential areas. they have a rocket in every garage. he said
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to the people of lebanon, get out of the death—trap that is your country now. while you still can. and he said, we will continue degrading hezbollah until they are finished. ostensibly, this is not a prime minister in the mood for any peace deal . any two state peace deal. any two state solution seems to be very, very much like he has dug in. he's not listening to the likes of sir keir starmer. he has dug in and he seems he's in it for the long haul. that was benjamin netanyahu addressing the united nafionsin netanyahu addressing the united nations in new york live just a short moment ago . moving on now short moment ago. moving on now to some sad news and dame maggie smith, star of the harry potter films and of course, downton abbey has died at the age of 89. abbey has died at the age of 89. a statement from dame maggie's sons say she died peacefully in hospital on friday morning, and costello looks back at her extraordinary life . extraordinary life. >> maggie, one of the world's most famous and distinguished
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actresses. maggie. maggie. dame maggie smith was loved the world over. maggie smith was loved the world over . in an expansive career over. in an expansive career spanning seven decades, she starred in over 16 television series and films. >> go with god. >> go with god. >> crispy but perhaps dame maggie smith was most famous for her starring role in the harry potter franchise as the formidable professor minerva mcgonagall. >> that was bloody brilliant. >> that was bloody brilliant. >> thank you for that assessment, mr weasley. >> from 2010, maggie smith appeared as violet crawley, dowager countess of grantham, in downton abbey. >> you're a woman with a brain and reasonable ability. stop whining and find something to do. >> the show became a cultural phenomenon, with her character stealing practically every scene that she's in. >> what do you think? i might have a drink. >> despite her popularity, dame maggie smith famously said that
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she never actually watched downton abbey herself. but she did have the box set, having received the highest achievement for film, television and theatre , for film, television and theatre, comprising of two oscar awards, a tony award and four primetime emmys. in 1990, maggie smith was made a dame by queen elizabeth ii for her contributions to the arts. she received the companion of honour for her services to drama. in 2014. she was married twice and had two sons. the actors chris larkin and toby stephens. she is survived two by five grandchildren. dame maggie smith will be remembered for her quick wit , her comedic timing quick wit, her comedic timing and being one of britain's most recognisable and much loved actresses. maggie >> sad loss and the tributes have already been pouring in. gyles brandreth, who is a
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decades long friend, said this is the saddest news. one of the greats. it marks the end of a golden era and former prime minister rishi sunak saying an icon of the stage and screen who will be sadly, sadly missed. tributes pouring in there to dame maggie smith sadly passed away at the age of 89. moving on now to britain's youngest knife murderers, who were aged just 12 when they killed shawn seesahai in a brutal machete attack. they've both been sentenced at nottingham crown court to a life with a minimum term of just eight years, and six months. earlier this month, an appeal to remove their anonymity was denied by a judge and our west midlands reporter, jack carson reports . reports. >> i was outside in the living room and her phone rang and she answered the call and she started to cry. i asked her what happened.she started to cry. i asked her what happened. she said sean got
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stabbed. >> shawn seesahai was just 19 years old when he was stabbed to death in a wolverhampton park. originally from anguilla in the caribbean, sean had only been in the uk for six months, having come to receive treatment for cataracts. it's the 13th of november last year, and the 19 year old boards a tram with his friends from handsworth to a stop in wolverhampton. an hour after leaving his home. he's seen here in a petrol station shop before making his way with one of his friends to the stowlawn, playing fields. this cctv is blurry but police believe this footage at 8:14 pm. is the moment sean was attacked by 212 year old boys. mr seesahai was shoulder barged by the smaller of the two defendants when he questioned what they were doing. one of the boys pulled a machete from his trousers and sean shouted run to his friend! but as he tried to escape, the 19 year old tripped and fell. the trial heard during the murder, the machete went through his body all the way from his back, through his ribs
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and into his heart. detective inspector damien forrest, a senior investigating officer at west midlands police , describes west midlands police, describes the impact of the attack. >> i've been a police officer for 20 years. this isn't the first time i've been out to a young man who's lost his life in a really violent way, but. but to then find out that 212 year olds was responsible was shocking. you only have to stop and think for a minute how you would feel to be one minute having a laugh with your friend, going about your business, the next minute running for your life before turning around and realising that your best mate's life is over. and i think there's a there's a very real effect of that that will change our witnesses life forever. >> in this photo taken the day of the attack, one of the 12 year olds can be seen posing with a bladed weapon. the trial heard that one of the defendants often carried a machete with a 42.5cm long blade. giving
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evidence to jurors, the boys blamed each other for inflicting the fatal blow and showed no remorse for what they had done in the 24 hours before their arrest , with one cleaning the arrest, with one cleaning the machete with bleach and hiding it under his bed. sean's mother, manikeswari , says before his manikeswari, says before his death, he was excited about his future. >> if you want his own house, you want his own car. you know, mummy, i want to shine in my life. i can't see my son married, don't have a wife, no grandchildren. for me, it's very hard. sean, you must remember. we always will remember. you until god ready for us. one day. we will see each other right ? i we will see each other right? i love you , sean . love you, sean. >> jack carson . gb news. >> jack carson. gb news. >> jack carson. gb news. >> and no mother should have to say that. well, let's now cross to outside nottingham crown court, my home city. and got the latest with gb news reporter jack carson. jack, welcome to the show. a simply astonishing case. a heartbreaking case, and
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one that in many ways just sums up modern broken britain. a lot of people scratching their heads at what is seen as a very, very lenient final sentence. just eight years, six months for each of these two boys. they've already done the best part of a yeah already done the best part of a year. they'll be out in seven years and six months. jack tell us about a flavour of what happened inside the court when the judge was reading before she passed down sentence. it was extraordinary. it felt to me listening in that she was treating the killers as the victims. >> well, there were a lot of mitigating factors that mrs. justice tipples used in her sentencing remarks. she referred to the pre—sentencing reports that she had received from both social workers and of course, the defence around the situation that these two now 13 year old boys were in at the time when they murdered 19 year old shawn seesahai in that park in
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wolverhampton when he was just 19 years old. she started out her sentencing by saying that none of what she could pass today would be comfort to the victim's family, and she told the boys in the sentencing that when you killed sean at 19, he was starting out his adult life with everything to live for. what you did was horrific and shocking. she went on to say that i am sure you intended to kill him , but she then went on kill him, but she then went on to the mitigating factors. she said that this was a spur of the moment attack was not premeditated. she referenced the age of the defendants and they will remain on separate secure units for the duration. minimally, of course, for the eight and a half years that they've been sentenced to today. she referenced the first defendant as being extremely vulnerable. he had admitted in the trial that he bought the weapon for £40 from a from a friend. as you heard in the piece there, he often, as was also heard in the trial, carried
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that machete around. but the judge said today that that first defendant had been groomed and exploited by others, that they had very many adverse childhood experiences, including falling victim to exploitation and criminals having those multiple traumas in their childhood, which the judge said today that young defendant was not responsible for. he does not have the full stage of maturity, the judge said today. to fully appreciate the consequences of his actions. moving to on the second of the defendants, it was very much a different story. the judge talking about how that second defendant had a supportive and loving relationship with his parents and was not previously known to police, yet both of them still received that eight and a half year sentence of course, it is a life sentence. murder carries a life sentence. murder carries a life sentence. murder carries a life sentence automatically, but they will serve eight and a half years before they can face a parole board. but they do become sentenced down. today, britain's youngest knife killers . youngest knife killers. >> thank you. jack carson. there
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live from nottingham. and let's head back to the studio now. and i'm joined with retired scotland yard detective and friend of the show , mike neville. mike, it's show, mike neville. mike, it's one of those cases that just makes you wonder what on earth is going on in britain. to 12 year old boys, we heard there from mrs. justice tipple , from mrs. justice tipple, explaining a backdrop of violence, of trafficking, of criminality , witnessing violence criminality, witnessing violence at home, adhd diagnosis in one of the boys came from a broken background. was groomed by others and yet willingly and knowingly left home with a machete and the actual killing itself was was barbaric. it was barbaric . barbaric. >> it was so wicked and evil. the actually both armed with these machetes and chopping at this sean, this young boy who'd done absolutely nothing wrong . done absolutely nothing wrong. the viciousness of it now. and i've worked with young people, but at some point you've got to say that some people are just
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evil, you know, in the sense that at 12 years old, i knew and you knew that taking a machete and savagely killing somebody was the wrong thing to do. and what people will here, of course, is that the judge almost like reads out a pile of excuses. and it comes to the point, you know, if the young lad had got involved in some shoplifting or nicked a car radio or whatever, we could understand that. and everybody deserving of a fair chance. but we've got an eight year minimum sentence, and yet the same day you've got somebody sent to prison for two years to throwing tomato soup on a painting. so that's a quarter for how much is a life worth? we were told the pubuc a life worth? we were told the public were told by the government when the death penalty was abolished, that life would mean life and all the time that's been drip fed. don't, don't and don't watered down until we get to this. >> and mike, they've already beenin >> and mike, they've already been in custody for 315 days. of course, because this happened in november . so that course, because this happened in november. so that means that they'll actually be out in seven years and six months. i put it to you, mike. they'll be out for
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their 21st birthdays. these two kids with with good behaviour, which could well happen. sean will never see his 21st birthday. his parents will never get to witness their beautiful son's 21st birthday. in what way does this feel like justice? >> it doesn't feel like justice at all because. and they'll spend hardly any time in an aduu spend hardly any time in an adult prison. >> they'll be in some. they'll be looked after their children. now so they'll never really be punished. and i can you can guarantee, just like we saw with the bulger killers, that once they're out, they'll be doing it again . their wicked, their again. their wicked, their wickedness is inside them. and this will just carry on and nothing will change. >> and, mike, they'll be looked after by the taxpayer, won't they? let's face it, they're inside now . they were already inside now. they were already talking in the in in the court today before the sentencing, that they will be given all the support they need, the educational opportunity they need. educational opportunity they need . they'll actually probably need. they'll actually probably get a better life in prison than they would outside of prison. they'll have a head start in life in many senses, if they take advantage of it, that a lot
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of ordinary kids won't footed by the taxpayer . and when they get the taxpayer. and when they get out, you know full well they'll probably go into an identity, concealed living environment paid for by the taxpayer. and once again, it underlines that that feeling that our criminal justice system, mike, it doesn't seem to support victims, it seems to support perpetrators. >> it does support perpetrators. and when you see the anonymity, people, deal drugs have got to be pwhengg—am ”4:7”; people, deal drugs have got to be pwhen you , ”423m; people, deal drugs have got to be pwhen you see 423”; people, deal drugs have got to be pwhen you see the ,,,,j,, people, deal drugs have got to be pwhen you see the anonymity, and when you see the anonymity, these are young lads who then these are young lads who then pubush these are young lads who then pubush these are young lads who then publish themselves on social publish themselves on social media, you know, wearing, you media, you know, wearing, you know, with the knives. and yet know, with the knives. and yet when it comes to the us knowing when it comes to the us knowing who they are then we can't. how who they are then we can't. how is that so they wanted to is that so they wanted to publicise themselves. they publicise themselves. they should be published. there comes should be published. there comes a point in life where, yes, you a point in life where, yes, you protect children, but the protect children, but the protection of the state and protection of the state and everybody else's children is everybody else's children is more important. and the whole more important. and the whole thing seems to be focused on thing seems to be focused on perpetrators. just this week, perpetrators. just this week, the metropolitan police have the metropolitan police have released a thing saying, oh, we released a thing saying, oh, we treat too many children as treat too many children as criminals and they're criminals and they're vulnerable. yes, there's a point vulnerable. yes, there's a point of looking after kids, but at of looking after kids, but at some point you've got to say some point you've got to say those who kill people, stab people, deal drugs have got to those who kill people, stab people, deal drugs have got to
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be put be put away and locked up, and we're seen to be the establishment seems to be getting worse in this area. >> mike. they left home with machetes. they went home and played fortnite. they were posting on snapchat about what they'd done. they cleaned the knives with bleach. so they they put they they went is
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correspondent katherine forster. catherine welcome to the show. so, having tea in new york or maybe diet coke and burgers? it is donald trump. we don't know what was on the menu. maybe it was humble pie for david lammy, but the real story is this side of the pond. no one really cares what keir starmer is doing in new york. he's at the un, he's talking tough to israel . israel talking tough to israel. israel aren't listening. benjamin netanyahu was on there a moment ago at the un saying, no chance will i lay down arms? we're going to fight all the way. but the real drama is here. keir starmer is having a nightmare. >> he's having a tough time, isn't he? i mean, i was with him in washington and rome. it was only two weeks ago. we thought at that point that all the talk about the un was going to be about the un was going to be about ukraine, about storm shadow missiles. of course, that's all been totally overshadowed by the situation in the middle east. as you say, regardless of what the united nafions regardless of what the united nations say , regardless of what nations say, regardless of what sir keir starmer says, benjamin netanyahu is in no mood to back
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down. and i think number 10 will be very happy about this meeting with donald trump. of course, sir keir starmer and david lammy particularly have said pretty harsh things about trump in the past. but trump could well be president, so they'll be very happy with that. but yes, he's going to come back to a difficult situation because pretty much now for not going on for a fortnight since the sunday times broke, the story about lord alli paying for dresses for lady starmer , we've had this lady starmer, we've had this drip, drip pretty much every day. a new revelation about freebies. i mean, it was the guardian of all the papers who first came up with a figure of over 100,000 that he's taken in freebies and gifts. this story yesterday about using lord ali's, flat to broadcast and it
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looking like it was his home. when we know that it wasn't his home, the space for his son to work for his gcses, it just goes on and on and on. and what struck me at conference was the year before i was there, it was the same place, liverpool. there was a huge energy, huge excitement. he came in, he was greeted like a rock star. they believed they were on the cusp of power. now they are in power. they're finding it very difficult. there's been plenty of self—inflicted mistakes. the freebies being top of the list, but also the winter fuel allowance. and there's a lot of unhappiness. not just from the unions but with labour mps themselves bitterly unhappy with themselves bitterly unhappy with the decisions that the government, now that they're in power, is making. of course, rachel reeves and the pm would say that they've got no choice with these difficult decisions . with these difficult decisions. >> thank you very much, catherine. we'll have more from you in the next hour. now, moving back to the sad passing of dame maggie smith, star of
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the harry potter films and downton abbey, has sadly died at the age of 89. a statement from dame maggie's son say she died peacefully in hospital on friday morning. well, i can now speak with the actress debbie arnold. debbie, welcome to the show. sad, sad news that brings us together. can you give us your tributes to dame maggie? >> oh, well , i tributes to dame maggie? >> oh, well, i mean, tributes to dame maggie? >> oh, well , i mean, talk about >> oh, well, i mean, talk about being. she was absolutely . i being. she was absolutely. i mean, a national treasure, wasn't she? and her humour and everything about her and the fact that she is now in her was now in her late 80s and still working until the very end. how amazing was that? >> tributes pouring in even from a former prime minister, rishi sunak has said an icon of the stage and screen has passed away. gyles brandreth, of course, who'd known for her many, many years, was saying the saddest news. one of the greats. it marks the end of a golden era. and isn't that true? i mean, all of us have basically known dame maggie smith for all of our lives. i mean, i've grown up with her. i remember her from when i was a nipper. and now
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here we are. we've all shared the experience of her amazing talent. >> yeah, absolutely. and i think downton abbey was, you know, if you like her swan song and how wonderful to go out on something on such a big show. and for the whole of the country or the whole of the country or the whole world to really know who she is. and i don't really. i mean, who do you think would be the next maggie smith? i mean, that's the whole thing. who is our next wonderful sort of icon like maggie? oh, look at her. she's so lovely. so lovely. and her sons as well, doing really, really well in the business. and her, her her ex—husband. i met her, her her ex—husband. i met her years ago when i was at the national many years ago in the bar, and she was very formidable even then for a young actress. it was like she was quite frightening but brilliant . frightening but brilliant. >> 60 year career, two oscars and as you say, both on the small , on the and as you say, both on the small, on the small and as you say, both on the small , on the small screen, and as you say, both on the small, on the small screen, on downton abbey. everybody remembers that on the big screen. of course, it was the prime of miss jean brodie and california suite for those oscars and also on the stage so she could do the lot.
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>> yeah, absolutely. the lot. and it went on for, you know, forever. really. i mean, to , to forever. really. i mean, to, to retire at 89 and then i suppose that's it. she never retired, did she? she just died. and that's probably what we all want to do. we never want to give up. we just want to keep on going forever. and i think she has. and she will always be known as one of our greatest actors and one of our greatest actors and one of our greatest actors and one of our greatest characters, i think. >> ithink. >> i'm i think. >> i'm curious about that story of you meeting her at the bar. would you care to elaborate? >> no. well, i think everybody met at the bar at the national. i mean, that's where we all used to spend time. and i was a very young actress. i was married to john challis, who played boycie in only fools and horses at the time. and he was working there, and there she was at the bar with her husband, robert stephens, and well, he was another very formidable, formidable guy , and that's the formidable guy, and that's the father of her two sons. but yeah, i mean, you know, it was like meeting the queen even then. and that was you know, 40 years ago or something . years ago or something. >> and it takes something to
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have that poise and that grace and the voice, you know, just absolutely iconic kind of composure and the whole package is so classically trained. >> and every , every line, she >> and every, every line, she said, you know, every everything that she said in downton wasn't, it was a put down and it was wonderful and it was so slick, but so easy. you know, there was never any pressure. you know, she was you never felt she was acting. you just thought, oh my god, this woman is so terrifying. >> wonderful stuff . thank you >> wonderful stuff. thank you very much for joining >> wonderful stuff. thank you very much forjoining us and sharing those memories with us there. that's the actress debbie arnold. thank you very much indeed. arnold. thank you very much indeed . there's lots more still indeed. there's lots more still to come between now and 4:00, including two just stop oil activists have been jailed after they poured soup over vincent van gogh's sunflowers at london's national gallery in 2022. they've got two years porridge for one can of soup. but first, there's your latest news headlines and it's lewis mckenzie .
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mckenzie. >> good afternoon. it's 3:30. i'm lewis mckenzie in the gb newsroom. in a speech at the un general assembly, israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu says his country will not reset until the remaining hostages are brought home, as he insists his country is fighting for peace. >> ladies and gentlemen . i >> ladies and gentlemen. i didn't intend to come here this year. didn't intend to come here this year . my country didn't intend to come here this year. my country is at war, fighting for its life . but after fighting for its life. but after i heard the lies and slanders levelled at my country by many of the speakers at this podium, i decided to come here and set the record straight . the record straight. >> however, earlier on today, netanyahu says negotiations on a ceasefire in lebanon will continue despite his insistence
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that the idf maintains its offensive against hezbollah. an israeli strike early this morning reportedly killed nine people from the same family in in southern lebanon, including four children. sir keir starmer has called for israel and designated terror group hezbollah to agree on a ceasefire, saying escalation serves no one. speaking at the united nations, the prime minister implored the two sides to step back from the brink. >> sir keir also discussed the importance of a ceasefire deal with the with his lebanese counterpart. >> it concludes sir keir starmer's three day trip to new york after attending the annual meeting of world leaders and bringing you some very sad news now. dame maggie smith, known for the harry potter films and downton abbey, has died at the age of 89. her family released a statement saying she passed away peacefully in hospital early this morning. she leaves two
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sons and five loving grandchildren who were devastated by the loss of their extraordinary mother and grandmother. britain's youngest knife murderers , who were only knife murderers, who were only 12 years old when they killed shawn seesahai renee with a machete , have both been machete, have both been sentenced to life with a minimum term of eight and a half years. the killers were convicted in june of murdering the 19 year old, who was stabbed in the heart and suffered a fractured skull in november of last year. they're the youngest convicted murderers in the uk since jamie bulger's killers robert thompson and jon venables back in 1993. well, those are your latest gb news headlines. i'm lewis mckenzie. more in half an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts .
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forward slash alerts. >> thank you very much, lewis. now, if you'd like to get in touch with me @gbnews, you know what to do. go to gbnews.com forward slash yoursay and i'll try and read the best of messages a little later in the show. i'm
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channel. welcome back. your time is 340. i'm martin daubney on gb news now. israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu addressed the un general assembly this afternoon a short while ago, as conflict in the middle east continues to escalate. netanyahu declared that his country is winning, warning iran that there is no place israel cannot reach. he also adopted a favoured tactic using maps to show the threat posed by iran and the
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potential for israel's alliances with arabian states. we get more on this now with gb news homeland security advisor, mark white, who joins me. mark. so sir keir starmer, david lammy saying it's about time that everybody laid down arms. benjamin netanyahu wasn't listened to that whatsoever . he listened to that whatsoever. he was saying israel is fighting for its life and seemed very much still a man with a mission. >> yes, indeed. as the israeli forces continue to fight in gaza and now of course, on their northern border with lebanon, the israeli prime minister in new york, at the united nations, taking the diplomatic fight to the chamber there, accusing many there in the chamber. although, of course, we saw quite a few people walking out but accusing many of those representatives of nafions many of those representatives of nations around the world of spreading lies and slander about israel and its prosecution of the war, he described it as a
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holy war, a war to, of course, get the hostages 100 plus hostages still being held by the terror group hamas freed. and now, of course , widened to try now, of course, widened to try to get those 70,000 israeli citizens who have been unable to get back to their own homes in northern israel since october. the eighth. last year, when hezbollah started lobbing thousands of missiles and rockets and drones into northern israel. they've widened the scope of that war to get them back into those communities, and thatis back into those communities, and that is what prime minister benjamin netanyahu was telling the united nations that in that endeavour, they intend to go through with it until they can defeat hezbollah. if hezbollah is not willing to lay down its arms and allow israeli citizens to live a peaceful life .
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to live a peaceful life. >> and mark white, when he said to the people of lebanon , get to the people of lebanon, get out of the death trap, that is your country while you still can. i'm not sentencing him in any mood to be placatory any time soon. mark white thank you very much for that summary. excellent as ever . very much for that summary. excellent as ever. thank you. now two just stop oil activists have been imprisoned for what the judge described as idiotic criminal damage on the priceless van gogh painting sunflowers , van gogh painting sunflowers, describing their behaviour as extreme, disproportionate and criminally idiotic. mrjustice hague sentenced phoebe plummer and anna holland to 27 months and anna holland to 27 months and 20 months, respectively. i'm joined now in the studio by charlie peters. charlie, two years for a can of soup. was it worth it? >> well, it was certainly worth it. in the view of the judge and the and the jury that convicted both of those defendants, i have to say , justice. mrjustice, to say, justice. mr justice, here in the in southwark crown court this morning, his
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sentencing remarks were delivered in about 15 minutes, but he spoke so quickly it was tough to keep up with him as he just rattled through various very sharp lines to describe both of the defendants. you've heard some of the language that we heard him use in the court this morning. extreme idiotic, disproportionate. he also described the pre—sentencing mitigation speech made by phoebe plummer, who was representing herself as potentially very offensive because she alluded that herself and her fellow just stop oil activists were political prisoners . now, that political prisoners. now, that was one of the several occasions where mrjustice hare where mr justice hare interrupted where mrjustice hare interrupted the proceedings. he said that there are many people suffering in dungeons around the world. at the hands of dictators who really are political prisoners . but you, phoebe prisoners. but you, phoebe plummer, are in fact someone who has very sincerely held beliefs. but that does not give you the right to commit criminal damage. so the two sentences that were handed down for phoebe plummer,
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it was 24 months for throwing the soup at the painting, described as priceless by the judge. and in the case of the trial, it was actually the damage to the frame that caused that conviction. it was estimated at being worth around £10,000, and it was chosen specifically as 17th century antique frame because it would be more in keeping with the style that vincent van gogh wanted. and justice hare said that he was born in the netherlands. he was dutch. he worked in france. this painting is now in london, but actually it belongs to the world's cultural treasure and he said to both the defendants, you have no right to interrupt with our appreciation and consumption of that sort of artistic treasure. there were two others in the dock before. they've not got the same headlines as you'd expect, but chiara sarti and daniel hall, two other just stop but chiara sarti and daniel hall, two otherjust stop oil hall, two other just stop oil activists, were sentenced before he turned to these two other defendants. they were given community orders and chiara sarti was also given 15 hours of rehabilitative work in order for
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her to reflect more on what he described as her total lack of remorse. in pre—sentencing submissions. it was also interesting to hear from both of those defendants, sarti and hall, because they said, in the words of the defence barrister , words of the defence barrister, that they would no longer return to criminal action after this, and there were some potentially shocked faces in the public gallery as this was read out . as gallery as this was read out. as members of just stop oil are understood to be extremely dedicated to their cause, willing to receive prison punishment. but for the case of those two activists, enough is enough. now they've been threatened with prison and they won't do it again. >> and it makes you wonder if they'd have been some stiff justice like this in previous cases. we might not have got to this stage, charlie. it seemed they were soft soaped for so long. but now, after all of this , long. but now, after all of this, for their antics, they're going to get some porridge. thank you very much, charlie. always a pleasure to have you in the studio. now coming up, we'll be getting all the latest on the mohamed al fayed sex abuse allegations case. that's next on
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channel. welcome back. it's 10 to 4. i'm martin daubney on gb news now. we return to the mohamed al—fayed story . and lawyers al—fayed story. and lawyers representing the alleged victims in the al—fayed sex abuse scandal have now implicated fulham football club. and we've approached the club for comment this morning. but previously, fulham have said the club remain in the process of establishing whether anyone at the club is or has been affected by the reports concerning mr al fayed. and joining us now to discuss this further is our gb news royal correspondent, cameron walker. cameron, it was inevitable in a sense, that the investigation would move on from harrods to explore every potential interface for abuse. and now
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that's happening. fulham football club have been pulled in. >> yeah, it certainly has, martin and the response has really been enormous since the lawyers initial statement last friday, where they called on other victims or alleged victims to contact them. and now to date, they have had over 200 inquiries coming from all over the world. so not just here in the world. so not just here in the united kingdom, because mr fayed's alleged abuse happened in different countries and different cities, and lawyers have now confirmed they represent 60 survivors as part of that claim . and they suspect of that claim. and they suspect more will come. and as i said, this is a global scope. but what they also said is that with mohamed al fayed, wherever he went , abuse mohamed al fayed, wherever he went, abuse would follow. and they say that very sadly, their instincts of what they said in that press release or in that press conference last friday is now been proved to be true because they say lawyers claim there is credible evidence of abuse at other al fayed properties and businesses , properties and businesses, including, as you said in your
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introduction there, fulham football club, now fulham football club, now fulham football club, now fulham football club, has actually released a statement following this this afternoon. and they say we remain in the process of establishing whether anyone at the club is or has been affected by the reports concerning mr al fayed. in the meantime, should any person wish to share information or experiences on this matter, they can contact the club or the police . and this the club or the police. and this story appears to go on and on. martin. because as we were discussing yesterday, al—fayed may be dead, but there could well be a number of other individuals who are implicated individuals who are implicated in this by having associations with al fayed, allowing him to carry out his alleged abuse, and could well have questions to answer . answer. >> and cameron walker, you were at that press conference a week ago today, the barrister representing the attorney representing the attorney representing the attorney representing the survivors, gloria allred, she came into the studio last friday. it was 20, in the morning, 37 by the afternoon. now saying 200 survivors implicated this is just an astonishing development in this story . just an astonishing development in this story. cameron. >> yeah, it is. 200 people have
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contacted the lawyers, whether or not they're being represented or not they're being represented or not they're being represented or not yet is another matter. but 60 confirmed so far, with one alleged perpetrator, mohamed al fayed, and what the pattern appears to be from what we've learned from the press conference and various lawyers statements now, other organisations getting involved is that mohamed al fayed was a man who lawyers claim was at the very top of his organisation, who had a lot of money behind him , had a lot of friends in him, had a lot of friends in high places, which lawyers claim allowed him to carry out this sort of abuse. harrods have apologised to the victims and say they will, of course, co—operate fully with any investigation, and the current owner of the current managing director, even of fayed's of harrods, even michael ward has said that mr fayed presided over a toxic culture of secrecy , a toxic culture of secrecy, intimidation, fear of repercussions and sexual misconduct. and he also said, of course, that he was not aware of
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the allegations surrounding him. but it appears some people were. the metropolitan police are exploring avenues as to who could potentially need to answer some questions. >> okay. thank you very much, karen walker. plenty coming in the next hour, including more on the next hour, including more on the sad passing of dame maggie smith. i'm martin daubney. first, here's your weather with alex deakin. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on gb. >> news . >> news. >> news. >> afternoon. welcome to your latest weather update from the met office here on gb news. the weekend will bring quite a lot of fine and dry weather, but it will be pretty chilly to start with and more wet and windy weather is on the way for later sunday. that's coming from this area of low pressure. behind me we've got high pressure moving in at the moment. this low brought all the heavy rain and the flooding over the past couple of days. that's out of the way. we've now got northerly winds bringing a few showers ,
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winds bringing a few showers, but quite a lot of fine and dry weather. but northerly winds also bring a chill and it is going to be pretty cold overnight tonight. temperatures are going to dip down with these clearer skies across the heart of england and wales well down to 3 or 4 degrees. that's in towns and cities. some rural spots may well dip to down freezing onto saturday. and yes, a chilly start by and large, a fine and sunny one for england and wales. more cloud tomorrow for scotland and northern ireland. still a bit more cloud coming into parts of wales and southwest england. the odd shower. 1 or 2 showers into north norfolk to start the day for northern ireland and scotland . quite a lot of cloud scotland. quite a lot of cloud here too, but maybe a bright start across the borders, cloud and some outbreaks of showery rain across the bulk of scotland that will continue. so rain on and off over western scotland. but i suspect much of the east of scotland will brighten up a little through the day, with maybe a bit of brightness. the winds not as strong tomorrow as well, so with these lengthy spells of sunshine across england and wales, although we
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start pretty cold and temperatures by the afternoon will still be a touch below average for the time of year, it'll probably feel a little bit warmer. certainly feeling a bit warmer. certainly feeling a bit warmer than today, generally 11 or 12 in scotland further south, and we might squeak up to 15 celsius. and then on sunday again, a chilly start, but a dry start for most and many northern and eastern parts will stay that way. but down to the south and west, rain will be marching in and winds. we have a met office yellow warning in place for those gusty winds spreading across parts of wales and southwest england during sunday. bye for now . bye for now. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers, sponsors of weather on gb. >>a
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>> a very good afternoon to you. it's 4:00 pm on friday and welcome to the martin daubney show on gb news. we're broadcasting live from the heart of westminster and all across the uk. on today's show, the 212
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year olds who hacked shawn seesahai to death with a machete were today sentenced to just eight years and six months each. is it time to name and shame child killers and sentence them as harshly as adults? i'll speak to top cops and also a mother who lost her boy to knife crime . who lost her boy to knife crime. next up, legendary actress dame maggie smith, star of the harry potter films and downton abbey, has sadly died at the age of 89. we will have all the tributes to her throughout the rest of the show . and a report by which. show. and a report by which. magazine has exposed the true extent of convenient supermarket rip offs, with some stalls, some stalls charging double for a can of chickpeas. will name and shame the worst offenders. and that's all coming up in your next hour . what was the show?
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next hour. what was the show? always a pleasure to have your company. is it time to start treating child killers as if they are adults ? they act like they are adults? they act like adults. premeditated machete attacks. hacking a 19 year old boy to death. he will never see his 21st birthday. and yet, this pair, if they behave well inside, they'll be out for their 21st birthday. does that feel like justice? or once again, doesit like justice? or once again, does it feel like we have a criminal justice system which is set up to convert , to protect set up to convert, to protect and almost to nurture those who have committed the crimes and to do scant little for those who've suffered at their hands. that's the question i'm asking today. are we just simply too soft on these child killers? is it time to treat them with equity as their parents grieve for their beautiful boy? send your views in gbnews.com/yoursay. but now, here's your headlines with lewis mckenzie .
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mckenzie. >> good afternoon. it's just past 4:00. i'm lewis mckenzie here in the gb newsroom. israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu says his country will not rest until the remaining hostages are brought home, as he insists his country is fighting for peace . for peace. >> ladies and gentlemen . i >> ladies and gentlemen. i didn't intend to come here this year. didn't intend to come here this year . my country didn't intend to come here this year. my country is at war, fighting for its life . but after fighting for its life. but after i heard the lies and slanders levelled at my country by many of the speakers at this podium, i decided to come here and set the record straight . the record straight. >> however, earlier on today, netanyahu says negotiations on a ceasefire in lebanon will continue despite his insistence that the idf maintains its offensive against hezbollah, an
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israeli strike early this morning reportedly killed nine people from the same family in southern lebanon, including four children. so keir starmer has called for israel and hezbollah to agree to a ceasefire , saying to agree to a ceasefire, saying escalation serves no one. speaking at the united nations general assembly, the prime minister implored the two sides to step back from the brink. sir keir also discussed the importance of a ceasefire deal with his lebanese counterpart. it concludes sir keir starmer's three day trip to new york after attending the annual meeting of world leaders . britain's world leaders. britain's youngest knife murderers, who were 12 years old when they killed shawn seesahai with a machete, have both been sentenced to life with a minimum term of eight and a half years. the killers were convicted in june for murdering the 19 year old, who was stabbed in the heart and suffered fractured skull in november of last year
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in wolverhampton. they are the youngest convicted murderers in the uk since jamie bulger's killers robert thompson and jon venables back in 1993. barristers representing alleged victims of mohamed al fayed say there are now 60 survivors and they have credible, credible evidence of abuse at fulham football club. the former harrods and fulham fc owner, accused of multiple sexual assaults after a bbc investigation published last week. a spokesman for for justice harrods survivors, a group of barristers representing the alleged victims, says there's been an enormous response to the investigation. one of al—fayed's alleged victims has spoken exclusively to gb news this look in his eyes and i'll never forget it. >> it was like a monstrous i'm going to get what i want from you. >> you know, i don't care how
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you feel. >> and i do think because it was in a public place. so to speak, he he would have gone further had he could. i think he was worried somebody might come in, or i might have started screaming or something like that. so he made his exit pretty quickly, and i think he would have definitely raped me if he'd had half the chance. 100%. >> and you can watch the full interview at 10:00 pm this evening on gb news more than 180 flood warnings are placed across england and wales after days of heavy rain. images posted on social media also showed tracks at the station in shropshire completely submerged. the met office says northern and central parts of england and wales have been hit the hardest and ending on some sad news. dame maggie smith, known for the harry potter films and downton abbey, has sadly died at the age of 89. her family released a statement
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saying she passed away peacefully in the hospital early this morning. she leaves two sons and five loving grandchildren who were devastated by the loss of their extraordinary mother and grandmother. well, those are your latest gb news headlines. i'm lewis mckenzie. more from me in half an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . slash alerts. >> thank you lewis. now dame maggie smith, the star of the harry potter films. and of course , downton abbey, has sadly course, downton abbey, has sadly died at the age of 89. a statement from dame maggie's sons say she died peacefully in hospital on friday morning, and eddie costello looks back at her
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extraordinary life. >> reporter maggie, one of the world's most famous and distinguished actresses. maggie. maggie. maggie. dame maggie smith was loved the world over . smith was loved the world over. in an expansive career spanning seven decades, she starred in over 16 television series and films . films. >> go with god. >> go with god. >> crispy, but perhaps dame maggie smith was most famous for her, starring role in the harry potter franchise as the formidable professor minerva mcgonagall. >> that was bloody brilliant. >> that was bloody brilliant. >> thank you for that assessment, mr weasley. >> from 2010, maggie smith appeared as violet crawley, dowager countess of grantham, in downton abbey. >> you're a woman with a brain and reasonable ability . stop and reasonable ability. stop whining and find something to do. >> the show became a cultural phenomenon with her character stealing practically every scene that she's in. >> what do you think? i might have a drink . have a drink.
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>> despite her popularity, dame maggie smith famously said that she never actually watched downton abbey herself, but she did have the box set. having received the highest achievement for film, television and theatre, comprising of two oscar awards, a tony award and four primetime emmys. in awards, a tony award and four primetime emmys . in 1990, awards, a tony award and four primetime emmys. in 1990, maggie smith was made a dame by queen elizabeth ii for her contributions to the arts. she received the companion of honour for her services to drama in 2014. she was married twice and had two sons. the actors chris larkin and toby stephens. she is survived two by five grandchildren. dame maggie smith will be remembered for her quick wit. her comedic timing and being one of britain's most recognisable and much loved actresses . actresses. >> one of a kind sadly missed
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already and i'm joined now in the studio by the showbiz reporter hayley palmer. hayley, i'm just saying during that package there, the marvellous thing about dame maggie smith is that we all just grew up with her. she's been around. i'm no spnng her. she's been around. i'm no spring chicken. she's been around my entire life, grew up with her, feel like she's been a part of our lives and, you know, a huge, huge talent. 60 year career. >> i mean, she is just one of those faces that you just know. >> and recognise. >> and recognise. >> and recognise. >> and she will be so missed on our screens . our screens. >> and i love her story because i know that she wanted to become an actress, but her family were actually against it. they didn't want her to do it, but she was very focused and she kept going and she made it happen. and she got spotted when she was 18 by laurence olivier , and he invited laurence olivier, and he invited her to join the national theatre . her to join the national theatre. and that's how she got her big break. but it's truly very sad. i know there's a scene, a tribute by her friend gyles brandreth, who says she was a truly great actress, one of the greats, simply the best company wise, witty, wonderful, one of a
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kind in every way and consequently irreplaceable. and i think that's so true . she i think that's so true. she really was one of the greats. you know, she's had that iconic look and it's a real shame. but she lived an amazing life and she lived an amazing life and she had an incredible career. two oscars. i mean, come on. yeah. >> six year career. and that was for the prime of miss jean brodie and the california suite, those oscars. but of course, you're right. that that laurence olivier connection also did epic amounts of time on the small stage west end classically trained. and that's what gave her that voice. that voice, that headmistress, that terrifying voice. downton abbey, a single worker strike terror into a hundred paces. that was her trademark. she had the poise. she had the pedigree . she had she had the pedigree. she had the delivery. a truly classically trained epic actress. >> yeah, you're absolutely right. she was an absolute class act. i mean, i personally will remember her for downton abbey and i'm sure a lot of our viewers will, you know, have great, fond memories of her. and
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she just was a one off. you know, she really was one of the greats. and i think it's a real sad loss. and, you know, for me personally, there's not many actresses around that are of that calibre. >> and also because she was in the harry potter movies, like my kids adore her. so it's just a truly sort of, you know, intergenerational , you know, intergenerational, you know, kids, adults. you know, i was a kids, adults. you know, i was a kid when i, when i first got into it. now my kids are into it. it's got that sense of continuity. it's been around forever. >> yeah. yeah, she really has. and i know that she did die peacefully with her sons at her side. and they put out a statement this afternoon. so i think all we can do is think of what an amazing career she had, and you know, how she really will be missed on our screens. >> thank you very much for popping >> thank you very much for popping in and rishi sunak said earlier on today, an icon of the stage and screen. and in fact, we've now got a statement in, i think, from sir keir starmer. the prime minister has sent a message in. dame maggie smith introduces to new worlds with the countless stories she acted over her long career, she was beloved by so many for her great
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talent, becoming a true national treasure whose work will be cherished for generations to come. our thoughts are with her family and loved ones and may she rest in peace. i think that's a lovely statement, actually. and that is exactly what i was just saying there. hayley, you know, an intergenerational national treasure. just, you know, your kids love her. we loved her and will be will be sadly, sadly missed. >> yeah, she really will. she really will. and like i say, i'm a big downton abbey fan. so for me personally, when i heard the news this afternoon, it was, it was it was sad to hear, but i you know, we're really think of her in a fond way. >> well, thank you very much for joining us in the studio. appreciate your time. thank you. now, a change of pace. now because britain's youngest knife murderers, who were aged just 12 when they killed shawn seesahai in a brutal machete attack, have both been sentenced at nottingham crown court to life with the minimum term of just eight years and six months. now earlier this month, an appeal to remove their anonymity was
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denied by a judge and our west midlands reporter, jack carson reports. >> i was outside in the living room and her phone rang and she answered the call and she started to cry. i asked her what happened.she started to cry. i asked her what happened. she said sean got stabbed. >> shawn seesahai was just 19 years old when he was stabbed to death in a wolverhampton park. originally from anguilla in the caribbean, sean had only been in the uk for six months, having come to receive treatment for cataracts. it's the 13th of november last year, and the 19 year old boards a tram with his friends from handsworth to a stop in wolverhampton. an hour after leaving his home. he's seen here in a petrol station shop before making his way with one of his friends to the stowlawn playing fields. this cctv is blurry , but police cctv is blurry, but police believe this footage. at 8:14 pm. is the moment sean was attacked by 212 year old boys. mr seesahai was shoulder barged by the smaller of the two
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defendants when he questioned what they were doing. one of the boys pulled a machete from his trousers and sean shouted run to his friend! but as he tried to escape, the 19 year old tripped and fell. the trial heard during the murder, the machete went through his body all the way from his back, through his ribs and into his heart. detective inspector damien forrest, a senior investigating officer at west midlands police, describes the impact of the attack. >> i've been a police officer for 20 years. this isn't the first time i've been out to a young man who's lost his life in a really violent way , but. but a really violent way, but. but to then find out that 212 year olds was responsible was shocking. you only have to stop and think for a minute how you would feel to be one minute, having a laugh with your friend, going about your business the next minute running for your life before turning around and realising that your best mate's life is over. and i think there's a there's a very real effect of that that will change
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our witnesses life forever . our witnesses life forever. >> in this photo taken the day of the attack, one of the 12 year olds can be seen posing with a bladed weapon. the trial heard that one of the defendants often carried a machete with a 42.5cm long blade. giving evidence to jurors, the boys blamed each other for inflicting the fatal blow and showed no remorse for what they had done in the 24 hours before their arrest , with one cleaning the arrest, with one cleaning the machete with bleach and hiding it under his bed. sean's mother, manikeswari , says before his manikeswari, says before his death, he was excited about his future. >> he want his own house. he want his own car. you know, mummy, i want to shine in my life. i can't see my son married, don't have a wife, no grandchildren from. it's very hard. sean, you must remember. we always will remember you until god ready for us. one day we will see each other right? i love you , sean . love you, sean. >> jack carson . gb news.
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>> jack carson. gb news. >> jack carson. gb news. >> know no mother should have to say that about their child. let's cross now to outside nottingham crown court and get the latest with gb news reporter jack carson. jack, a lot of people looking at the sentence passed down to these two kids. eight years, six months, they'll be out in seven years. six months thinking, was this true justice? but of course, there are a lot of mitigating circumstances read out in court. tell us more . tell us more. >> well, i want to give you some reaction first, martin, from the family to that sentence. a while ago we heard from dorothea hodge. she's the uk representative for angola now. she read out a statement to us, to the media, from the family reacting to that sentence. that was handed down today. she said in that statement that whilst the family recognised that justice has been served in respect of what they called the horrific murder of their beloved son sean, they are disappointed
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with the sentence. they say that no one hearing the detail of this case could have any other feeling than horror, and the family had hoped the sentence would reflect that abhorrent violence that they say their son was a, you know, was objected to. they say that whilst they recognised that three young lives have been changed within with this case, their son, the third person involved is that they've lost their son forever. they say they do not feel the sentence that has been passed down today reflects the loss that they have suffered daily since sean's death. throughout the trial and the sentencing, which of course has been over the past two days. we heard the victim impact statements yesterday . within those yesterday. within those statements, we heard that sean's family have had to use their life savings to repatriate the body back from from the uk to angola as well. >> thank you. jack colson there at nottingham crown court. and joining me now is judy taylor, who is the grandmother of a
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knife crime victim . welcome to knife crime victim. welcome to the show, judy. i know i've spoken with you many times in the past , for those who don't the past, for those who don't know the story of your grandson, liam, would you mind sharing that with us before we react to this case today ? this case today? >> yes. hi. so my grandson was taken by knife crime nearly five years ago, 31st of january, 2020. he was completely innocent, done nothing wrong. he was attacked by three individuals that in a 39 second attack from start to finish, 13 seconds being directed directly on liam stabbed him six times and he had 28 separate injuries. and my heart goes out to every single family that are grieving their children through knife and gun crime, because our country is just, is just getting worse each day. they are getting younger. this is what we're saying all the time. you know, all i keep repeating is repeating is we need education in schools. we need them from seven years old. look, we've got
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212 year olds that have committed murder. my thoughts are with with everybody, you know, it's absolutely awful. no sentence ever brings comfort to a bereaved family. no sentence ever brings justice, but there was definitely no deterrent in this sentence at all. this is. this is horrendous . i don't this is horrendous. i don't claim to be a professional at all. i'm a grieving grandmother, but i try and understand. i try and look at every point of view. i try and learn . i've been told, i try and learn. i've been told, you know, that brain doesn't mature till it's 25 years old, mid 20s to late 30s, late 20s. how are we going to rehabilitate rehabilitate those two children next day in eight and a half years? it's not going to happen, is it? >> just not going to. >> just not going to. >> judy, the statement from the family there, i think, echoing what many, many people will be feeling, saying the horrific murder they are disappointed in the sentence we've lost our son forever. and the sentence does not reflect our loss. julie, as somebody who's experienced
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bereavement and loss to knife crime in some way, you can empathise with what the family are saying. as you say that no sentence can ever replace a life, but is there a feeling that these sentences, they're pathetic really, for what's been inflicted upon that family? this just seems like no real form of justice. >> no, they're absolutely ridiculous. and i don't know why. the starting point for murder at any age does not start at a set guidelines. you know , at a set guidelines. you know, 25 years plus is when they should be starting . those two should be starting. those two are going to come out of wherever they are by the time sean was killed. you know, they've got their whole lives ahead of them. and i'd love to think they could be rehabilitated. but i don't hold out a lot of faith in that. i really don't. >> why do you think that is? i mean, when we heard some of the circumstances of their lives, they've grown up in chaos. they've been grown up around violence, been involved in gangs. they left their homes with machetes. this was they cleaned the blades. afterwards,
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they played video games and sent snapchat messages. afterwards, judy , this doesn't feel like judy, this doesn't feel like a pair of young kids that seem in any way to be to be regretting or grieving for what they did. >> it doesn't seem like it, does it? you know, at 12 year olds, they are children. they are children. they're children that you want to sort of sit down and eat your dinner with and things like that. but unfortunately, they choose this way of life, whether they've been coerced by organised crime or whatever. but they knew right from wrong. they knew how wrong that was. and i didn't realise until i just heard they cleaned the blade and things because i, i tend not to listen to things because it's just too much, you know, it's every day we're hearing something else. and i've sat and cried this afternoon since i knew i was coming on because they're 12 years old and it's just it's horrendous . absolutely just it's horrendous. absolutely horrendous . horrendous. >> judy, you know, i know i've spoken to you before and i'm sorry if you're upset today because i know this must be in a sense , like you're revisiting
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sense, like you're revisiting the loss of your of your beloved liam, aren't you? every time this this happens. and will we ever learn? will we will we ever do you think actually put the victims first? or are we in this kind of doom cycle of seemingly to side with the perpetrators? >> it always seems the laws on the perpetrator's side, it always has done. every bereaved family member i speak to says that we've just got they've got to get together. the government , to get together. the government, absolutely everybody and say, this is the law, this is what it's going to be, and it's got to come back. and those prehistoric days and it's in and set out new guidelines. you know, the new zombie knife laws came out the other day and things like this. so let's start making examples. let's not do ridiculous things like this. you know, it's heartbreaking just to listen to it every day. and education please. let's get education please. let's get education in school from seven years old. >> well julie taylor, thank you for coming on today. and i'm sorry if it's upset you, but i think your work needs to be spoken about and we need to get it out there. thanks for everything you do. and once again, i'm sorry for the sad
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loss of liam and sending you love. okay thank you julie. thank you. appreciate your time. thank you. appreciate your time. thank you. appreciate your time. thank you very much, god. what doesit thank you very much, god. what does it mean? at the moment? now coming up, we'll be discussing the prime minister's trip to the states and his secretary's foreign nurses plan. i'm martin daubney on gb news,
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welcome back.in welcome back in a welcome back. in a gb news exclusive, patrick christys will be speaking to a victim of mohamed al fayed. and that's patrick christys . tonight's live from 9 christys. tonight's live from 9 pm. we'll have a sneak peek of p.m. we'll have a sneak peek of that in the next hour on this show . moving on. prime minister show. moving on. prime minister keir starmer has held his first meeting with former president donald trump in a bid to build relations with the republican nominee, before, of course, the upcoming us election in november. keir starmer shared a two hour dinner in new york with mr trump, who praised the
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popular prime minister, adding he's very nice and he ran a great race. >> you're meeting kit, you're meeting keir starmer. the uk premier. yes, he's coming tonight . what do you think of tonight. what do you think of him? some of his colleagues in government have been quite critical of you. >> well i'm going to see him in about an hour. so i have to be nice. right. but i actually think he's very nice. i think, he ran a great race. he did very well, it's very early, but he's popular, and i'll be seeing him, and i'll send your regards. >> would you rather. nigel, who are you with? >> who are you with? >> who are you with? >> i'm with gb news in the uk. okay, good. would you rather nigel farage had a bigger, bigger role? >> well, i think nigel is great. i mean, i've known him for a long time. he had a great election too. he picked up a lot of seats. more seats than he was allowed to have. actually, they acknowledged that he won. but for some reason you have a very strange system over there. you might win them, but you don't get them. nigel is a fantastic person. mr president. >> excel centre from there, that was our political editor, chris hope, on the front row with
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donald trump and back in london. i'm now joined by our political correspondent, katherine forster in the studio. fantastic that chris is getting out there. you, of course, have been with the prime minister yourself in recent times. how do you think it would have gone down with sir keir starmer, to have been compared there to nigel farage. they did have a two hour meeting. we don't know how that went , but, meeting. we don't know how that went, but, donald trump pouring praise on sir keir starmer, saying he's popular, he's got mixed up with somebody else . mixed up with somebody else. >> he was being extremely diplomatic. donald trump, >> he was being extremely diplomatic. donald trump , wasn't diplomatic. donald trump, wasn't he? and of course, i think we heard it from him. he said, well, i'm meeting him in an houn well, i'm meeting him in an hour, so i've got to be nice, haven't i? but the fact is that, you know, he knows he's the prime minister of great britain. he's going to be in that job for the next five years, presumably at a minimum . and so donald at a minimum. and so donald trump will will make nice as he is doing. but oh, to have been a fly on the wall in that two hour dinner in trump tower with david lammy as well the foreign
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secretary, david lammy, who of course has previously referred to donald trump as a neo—nazi sociopath, and also sir keir starmer. not very diplomatically ehhen starmer. not very diplomatically either, as previously accused donald trump of peddling the politics of hate and division. but look , basically they realise but look, basically they realise now they're potentially going to have to work together again. the, the election on november the 5th is too close to call. come january 20th. it may be perfectly possible that donald trump is president again. so sir keir starmer has made it plain that the special relationship will endure no matter what, and they will work together. worth saying , of course, that boris saying, of course, that boris johnson and trump did get on very well. trump said he was britain's trump, but back in 2015 there was a bit of a to do
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when donald trump said that, you know , parts of london, the know, parts of london, the police were scared to go and bofis police were scared to go and boris johnson hit back and said, well, i wouldn't want to go to new york because of the risk of bumping into donald trump. so things that get said somehow when people come to power, they manage to brush them under the carpet. >> thank you very much, katherine forster. and of course, kamala harris. too busy to meet up with sir keir starmer. although you said she was in washington, she was in washington. i think she was just too busy. katherine forster thank you very much. superb. thank you as ever. now it's time now for the great british giveaway and the biggest cash prize that we've ever given away here on gb news, £36,000 could be yours and that's like having an extra three grand tax free in your bank account each and every month for an entire year. here's all the details that you need to try and make it yours. >> you can be the next great british giveaway winner with a whopping £36,000 in tax free cash in your bank account. imagine getting the winning phone call for that.
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johnson made an extraordinary last ditch bid to persuade prince harry not to quit the uk . prince harry not to quit the uk. why? we all wanted him to go. but first, here's your latest news headlines and it's lewis mckenzie . mckenzie. >> good afternoon . it's just 432 >> good afternoon. it's just 432 i'm lewis mckenzie here in the gb newsroom. israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu says his country will not rest until the remaining hostages are brought home, as he insists the country is fighting for peace. >> ladies and gentlemen . i >> ladies and gentlemen. i didn't intend to come here this year. didn't intend to come here this year . my country didn't intend to come here this year. my country is at war, fighting for its life . but after fighting for its life. but after i heard the lies and slanders levelled at my country by many of the speakers at this podium,
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i decided to come here and set the record straight. >> however , earlier on today, >> however, earlier on today, netanyahu says negotiations on a ceasefire in lebanon will continue despite his insistence that the idf maintains its offensive against hezbollah. >> an israeli strike early this morning reportedly killed nine people from the same family in southern lebanon, including four children. and britain's youngest knife murderers, who were 12 years old when they killed shawn seesahai with a machete, have both been sentenced to life with a minimum term of eight and a half years. the killers were convicted in june of murdering the 19 year old, who was stabbed in the heart and suffered a fractured skull in november of last year. they're the youngest convicted child murderers in the uk since jamie bulger's killers, robert thompson and jon venables
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back in 1993, and ending on some sad news now . dame maggie smith, sad news now. dame maggie smith, known for the roles in harry potter and downton abbey, has died at the age of 89. her family released a statement saying she passed away peacefully in hospital early this morning. she leaves two sons and five loving grandchildren who were devastated by the loss of their extraordinary mother and grandmother. well, those are the latest gb news headlines. i'm lewis mckenzie. more from me in half an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . slash alerts. >> thank you very much, lewis. now, if you want to get in touch with me here @gbnews, simply go to gbnews.com/yoursay, get in
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touch and i'll read the best of your before the end of the show. i'm martin
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welcome back. it's 438. i'm martin daubney on gb news now. israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu addressed the united nations general assembly this afternoon as conflict in the middle east continues to escalate. netanyahu declared that his country is winning, warning iran that there is no place israel cannot reach. he also adopted a favoured tactic using maps to show the threat posed by iran and the potential for israel's alliances with arab states . now we get more take on states. now we get more take on this now with gb news home and security editor mark white, mark, welcome back to the show. so sir keir starmer, david lammy at the un earlier this week were urging the conflict not to escalate . benjamin netanyahu is
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escalate. benjamin netanyahu is having none of that. he was saying that he will go on degrading hezbollah until they have finished telling the people of lebanon to get out of the death trap that is your country, while you still can, and to show he means exactly that. >> we can show you some live images now overlooking the lebanese capital beirut, in which you can see smoke there on the horizon from fresh attacks that are taking place in southern beirut. the hezbollah stronghold that has been targeted a number of times by israeli forces. and we've seen, of course, in these strikes in recent days that israel has taken out some of hezbollah's top commanders. so we await in the coming hours news from beirut as to who was on the receiving end of that israeli airstrike. but the smoke, as i say , rising from beirut and the
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say, rising from beirut and the images you can see there are from yesterday's airstrike that took out initially we thought one israeli, hezbollah commander, but now we're told several commanders responsible for launching missiles, drones and rockets into northern israel from lebanon. they have now been killed and there is no doubt in the prosecution of this war. the israeli defence forces have had a very significant successes in taking some key figures from this terror group out of the picture. and clearly, as far as benjamin netanyahu is concerned, and he made no apologies as he made his speech to the united nations, despite the fact that there were plenty empty seats from those countries that decided they didn't want to stay in the chamber and listen to the israeli prime minister, he said
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there was a to job do. it was, he said, a holy endeavour, an endeavour, of course, that has as a primary focus the return of those 100 plus hostages who are still being held by the other iran aligned terror group in gaza, hamas and indeed, not just that, but the widening of the war effort, means that they are now taking that fight to hezbollah in the north because they want to see the 70,000 people from those northern communities . martin, who have communities. martin, who have beenin communities. martin, who have been in other parts of israel for almost a year now, unable to return to their homes because of more than 8000 rockets, missiles and drones fired by hezbollah. they want that to end, and they want these citizens to be able to return to their homes in northern israel . northern israel. >> and mark white benjamin netanyahu , also echoing the netanyahu, also echoing the tactics used by hamas in gaza,
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saying they fired rockets, hezbollah from schools and houses. he talks of a rocket in every garage, perhaps in some way going towards justifying bombing what are obviously civilian areas. mark white benjamin netanyahu today is a man with a mission. he seems very, very steely in his determination to get this job done. >> yes. and you mentioned the complicating factors, of course, in trying to prosecute any military endeavour when you have got a terrorist group like hezbollah echoing , the copying hezbollah echoing, the copying the same model as hamas and being embedded within the civilian population, we know that particularly, of course, in the lebanese capital, in beirut, there, the southern suburbs are hezbollah strongholds in that area, but the real concern of course, going forward, as far as the wider international
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community is concerned , is community is concerned, is whether this will turn into a wider regional conflict . no one wider regional conflict. no one wants to see that. of course , wants to see that. of course, but israel is determined to push ahead, and that's why we're seeing these tanks now massing on the border with southern lebanon. they've been carrying out exercises throughout the last couple of days. there are these many of these, armoured vehicles and infantry soldiers or military personnel that were in the south in gaza, for many, many months, taking that fight to hamas that have now been released to go further north, are there if the israeli cabinet, the war cabinet calls on them to go into lebanon, no move as yet . it's all being, move as yet. it's all being, carried out by either, aircraft,
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missiles, drones or indeed artillery across that border . artillery across that border. but no ground invasion as yet . but no ground invasion as yet. >> thank you. mark white an excellent summary of the escalating situation there on the israel—lebanon border. thank you very much for joining us the israel—lebanon border. thank you very much forjoining us on you very much for joining us on the show this afternoon. thank you . now, coming up, more on you. now, coming up, more on those extraordinary claims that the former prime minister boris johnson made an extraordinary last ditch bid to persuade prince harry not to quit the united kingdom. guess what? he left the very next day for canada. i'm martin daubney on gb news, britain's channel
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welcome back. it's 448 on martin daubney on gb news on this friday afternoon. now more on the extraordinary news that the former prime minister boris johnson , tried to persuade johnson, tried to persuade prince harry and meghan not to
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leave the united kingdom for nonh leave the united kingdom for north america in his new memoir, unleashed. johnson claims he was asked to give harry a manly pep talk just before the couple moved overseas. and i'm delighted to be joined by the former royal correspondent for the sun. the one man legend charles rea. charles, always an absolute pleasure to have you on the show. so boris tried to stop brexit, so he he kept on with brexit. he tried to stop megxit. he spectacularly failed. he had a manly intervention. didn't quite work out did it? >> no it didn't it. to be fair to boris, he was . he was asked to boris, he was. he was asked by both downing street and buckingham palace to have what you've just described as a manly p9p you've just described as a manly pep talk, in the hope that he could persuade harry to stick around. but by then it was too late. as you quite rightly said in your earlier, intro, the day after they left for canada ,
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after they left for canada, boris, in his memoirs , realises boris, in his memoirs, realises it was a ridiculous business. it was a totally hopeless at that stage for him to step in. now this was this was the manly talk at some sort of, conference in docklands, which harry was at and had spoken. and that's where he had said it's with total sadness that we are leaving and we're going, you know , to at we're going, you know, to at that time we're going to go and live in, in canada , if you live in, in canada, if you remember , former prime ministers remember, former prime ministers have have been used in the past. i mean, john major, sir john i mean, john major, sirjohn major was very much used as a, if you like, surrogate godparent for both william and harry shortly after their mother died. for a prime minister, you know, to be called in. and this, i think, shows the desperation of boris, trying to keep the couple in the country, which goes
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against, really what harry was saying. many of this in his book about the people who tried to persuade him to stick around. it doesn't mean . doesn't mean. >> i think we've lost you there, charles rae. we've got a bit of a dodgy connection. so we had brexit. this was megxit, i'm afraid . charles rae we have afraid. charles rae we have checks it you simply lost you there. not to worry. we'll try and get you back in a minute. but the interesting thing about this is i wonder if anybody else wanted this pair to stay the sussexes, when they cleared off, i think it was very much a feeling they reached the end of their natural shelf life with their natural shelf life with the huge majority of the great british public, and i wonder what the point was of that intervention was it was deployed by downing street , deployed by by downing street, deployed by buckingham palace, but obviously they'd made their minds up, or perhaps meghan had made harry's mind up for him.
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perhaps meghan had made harry's mind up for him . as i said, they mind up for him. as i said, they cleared off to canada the very , cleared off to canada the very, very next day. so boris intervention was totally, ineffective. at any rate . so ineffective. at any rate. so bofis ineffective. at any rate. so boris couldn't stop megxit, and some say he might have botched brexit anyway . it's all tittle brexit anyway. it's all tittle tattle, isn't it, to sell this new book now. moving on, i've been asking for your views throughout the show, and one thing that's really, really got you going, as it certainly did me, is this news, this astonishing news of the 212 year old murderers who've been sent down today for what i believe is a paltry sentence of eight years and six months for the killing of sean sheehy . and a lot of you of sean sheehy. and a lot of you are just kind of just bereft of the fact that this sentence was so slim. and that was a sentiment echoed by the family, who indeed a short while ago issued a sentence saying they had a statement beg your pardon? saying they were very disappointed in this sentence. it can in no way make up for
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their loss. and there's a feeling that a six year, an eight year, six month sentence was just way too short. these kids will be out of jail by the time they're 21. and sean, well, he never got to be 21. he he was killed when he was aged just 19. juue killed when he was aged just 19. julie has said this at some point. these killer kids will be released onto our streets and probably given a brand new identity, and some poor girl will end up with a boyfriend that's a killer and she won't have a clue. how can that be right? they should be named and shamed to avoid this. a lot of people have been getting in touch with that same sentiment. these kids will be put in jail and the judge even said mrs. justice tipples said earlier on that now child one is in a safe place. she actually said the killer is in a safe place because she pointed out in mitigation that he'd grown up in a chaotic environment, had seen violence, had been exposed to that, had had self—harmed and he
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was emotionally and developmentally younger than his age. it almost felt like at one point she was saying that he was the victim at taxpayer expense. he will now be educated. no doubt taken care of, cared for, and when they're released , and when they're released, they'll be put into protected custody and they will be at the taxpayers expense for the rest of their days. what are you asking? how can that be justice? how does our criminal system stick up for those who are on the receiving end of rough justice? or is it actually sticking up for people like this on a lighter note, some tributes have been pouring in to dame maggie smith. of course sadly died aged 89. the acting legend, 60 years her career and, dave says this a view. it's a shame to hear about maggie smith. she was always there in the background. most of our lives doing something or other should be very, very sadly missed. r.i.p. maggie and here terry says sad news about dame maggie smith, a great british icon. many, many poor people agreeing
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with that now. plenty more to bnng with that now. plenty more to bring you in the final hour of our show, including all the latest reaction, of course, to the sad passing of dame maggie smith. tributes pouring in from sir keir starmer and rishi sunak and plenty of others and martin daubney on gb news british news channel. now your weather alex deakin . deakin. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers . sponsors of boxt boilers. sponsors of weather on gb. >> news . >> news. >> news. >> good afternoon, welcome to your latest weather update from the met office here on gb news. the weekend will bring quite a lot of fine and dry weather, but it will be pretty chilly to start with and more wet and windy weather is on the way for later sunday. that's coming from this area of low pressure behind me. we've got high pressure moving in at the moment. this low brought all the heavy rain and the flooding over the past couple of days. that's out of the way. we've now got northerly winds bringing a few showers, but quite a lot of fine and dry
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weather. but northerly winds also bring a chill and it is going to be pretty cold overnight tonight. temperatures are going to dip down with these clearer skies across the heart of england and wales well down to 3 or 4 degrees. that's in towns and cities. some rural spots may well dip to down freezing onto saturday. and yes, a chilly start, but by and large a chilly start, but by and large a fine and sunny one for england and wales. more cloud tomorrow for scotland and northern ireland. still a bit more cloud coming into parts of wales and southwest england. the odd shower . 1 or 2 showers into shower. 1 or 2 showers into north norfolk to start the day for northern ireland and scotland. quite a lot of cloud here too, but maybe a bright start across the borders cloud and some outbreaks of showery rain across the bulk of scotland that will continue. so rain on and off over western scotland. but i suspect much of the east of scotland will brighten up a little through the day with maybe a bit of brightness. the winds not as strong tomorrow as well, so with these lengthy spells of sunshine across england and wales, although we start pretty cold and temperatures by the afternoon
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will still be a touch below average for the time of year, it'll probably feel a little bit warmer. certainly feeling a bit warmer. certainly feeling a bit warmer than today, generally 11 or 12 in scotland. further south, and we might squeak up to 15 celsius. and then on sunday, again, a chilly start, but a dry start for most and many northern and eastern parts will stay that way. but down to the south and west rain will be marching in and winds . we have a met office and winds. we have a met office yellow warning in place for those gusty winds spreading across parts of wales and southwest england during sunday. bye for now. >> looks like things are heating up boxt boilers sponsors of weather
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gb news. >> well . >> well. >> well. >> hey bro, good afternoon to you. it's 5:00 pm on friday. welcome to the martin daubney show on gb news. we're broadcasting live from the heart of westminster and all across the uk. on today's show, the 212
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year olds who hacked sean sza to death with a machete today sentenced to eight just years and six months each. is it time to name these child killers and sentence them as harshly as we might do to adults? soon i'll be speaking to a top cop and a mum who lost her boy to knife crime. and legendary actress dame maggie smith, star of the harry potter films. and of course, downton abbey has died at the grand old age of 89. we'll have all the tributes to her throughout the rest of the show . throughout the rest of the show. and a report by which. magazine has exposed the true extent of convenience. supermarket rip offs, with some of the smaller stores charging double for things like cans of chickpeas. we'll name and shame the worst offenders, and that's all coming up in your next hour. offenders, and that's all coming up in your next hour . once the up in your next hour. once the show. always a pleasure to have
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your company to 12 year old boys murdered. a 19 year old, and that 19 year old will never see their 21st birthday. but with a paltry eight years and six months doled out to these kids, they'll be out by the time they're 21. if they behave themselves. is that justice? is that what you think is fair? the family certainly don't think so. they said today that the sentence was not befitting of their loss. he could. no way. of course, bring their boy sean back. but do we live in a world where the rights of perpetrators seem to be protected? today there was a glowing report read out by miss mrs. justice tipple in court , mitigating in court, mitigating circumstances, explaining how those 12 year olds grew up in chaos, almost like it wasn't their fault. chaos, almost like it wasn't theirfault. it chaos, almost like it wasn't their fault. it was. chaos, almost like it wasn't theirfault. it was. it chaos, almost like it wasn't their fault. it was. it really kind of stuck in my craw, but joined by peter bleksley in a short while, no doubt he'd have a few choice words to say about a few choice words to say about a justice system, which does not seem to protect those who find themselves on the receiving end of tough, tough justice. let me
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know what you think about that topic. get in touch by going to gbnews.com/yoursay. and now it's time for your headlines. and here's lewis mckenzie . here's lewis mckenzie. >> thank you very much, martin. good afternoon. it's just gone 5:00. i'm lewis mckenzie here in the gb newsroom. israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu says his country will not rest until the remaining hostages are brought home, as he insists his country is fighting for peace . country is fighting for peace. >> ladies and gentlemen . >> ladies and gentlemen. i didn't intend to come here this year. didn't intend to come here this year . my country didn't intend to come here this year. my country is at war, fighting for its life . but after fighting for its life. but after i heard the lies and slanders levelled at my country by many of the speakers at this podium, i decided to come here and set
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the record straight. >> however, earlier on today, netanyahu says negotiations on a ceasefire in lebanon will continue despite his his insistence that the idf maintains its offensive against hezbollah. these are live pictures of beirut on your screens now. but earlier today, an israeli strike reportedly killed nine people from the same family in southern lebanon, including four children. sir keir starmer called for a ceasefire in the region, saying escalation will serve no one. speaking at the united nations, the prime minister implored the two sides to step back from the brink. sir keir also discussed the importance of a ceasefire deal with his lebanese counterpart. it concludes the prime minister's three day trip to new york after attending the annual meeting of world leaders . annual meeting of world leaders. britain's youngest knife murderers, who were 12 years old when they killed shawn seesahai
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with a machete, have both been sentenced to life with a minimum term of eight and a half years. the killers were convicted in june of murdering the 19 year old, who was stabbed in the heart and suffered a skull fracture in november of last yeah fracture in november of last year. they're the youngest convicted murderers in the uk since jamie bulger's killers robert thompson and jon venables back in 1993. barristers representing alleged victims of mohamed al fayed say there are now 60 survivors, and they have credible evidence of abuse at fulham football club. the former harrods and fulham fc owner is accused of multiple sexual assaults after a bbc investigation was published last week. a spokesman for justice for harold survivors, a group of barristers representing the alleged victims, say there's been an enormous response to the investigation. one of al—fayed's alleged victims has spoken exclusively to gb news
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>> at this look in his eyes and i'll never forget it. it was like a monstrous i'm going to get what i want from you . get what i want from you. >> you know, i don't care how you feel . you feel. >> and i do think because it was in a public place, so to speak. he he would have gone further had he could. i think he was worried somebody might come in or i might have started screaming or something like that. >> so he made his exit pretty quickly and i think he would have definitely raped me if he'd had half the chance. >> 100%. >> 100%. >> and you can watch the full interview on patrick christys tonight from 9 pm. now. more than 180 flood warnings are in place across england after days of heavy rain. images posted on social media show tracks at a station in shropshire completely submerged in rainwater. the met office says northern and central parts of england and wales have
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been hit the hardest . and ending been hit the hardest. and ending on some sad news now. dame maggie smith, known for the harry potter films and downton abbey, has died at the age of 89. her family released a statement saying she passed away peacefully in hospital early this morning. she leaves two sons and five loving grandchildren who were devastated by the loss of their extraordinary mother and grandmother. well, those are your latest gb news headlines for now. i'm lewis mackenzie. more from me in half an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . slash alerts. >> thank you lewis. now let's kick off this hour of the show with some breaking news from our homeland security editor, mark white mark, i understand things
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are developing in lebanon. tell us more. us more. >> us more. >> well, very significant development this evening with coordinated israeli airstrike on the southern suburbs of the lebanese capital, beirut. you're looking at live shots over beirut this morning. this evening. and the israeli military confirming that the target of this was hezbollah's central command in beirut and in particular, the leader of hezbollah , hassan nasrallah. so hezbollah, hassan nasrallah. so a very significant development. the blast , a very significant development. the blast, multiple blasts took place at a residential area in southern beirut . and we're told southern beirut. and we're told that, according to the israeli military, this compound, this headquarters was located buried deep underneath this residential
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area. now, of course , being in area. now, of course, being in a residential area that , of residential area that, of course, will raise the spectre of civilian casualties. they were very powerful detonations, multiple explosions. in short order in the southern suburbs of beirut, targeting as we say, martin, the command and control, according to the idf of the hezbollah terror group and in particular the leader of hezbollah, hassan nasrallah, who we've seen so many times haven't we, martin, with his bellicose speeches that he gives from deep in a compound, perhaps this particular compound in beirut, telling the israelis and the world that hezbollah will not let up in the attacks into israel, while the conflict in gaza continues. so a very
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significant development out of the lebanese capital this evening , multiple explosions in evening, multiple explosions in southern beirut targeting hezbollah's command and control centre, and in particular the hezbollah leader hassan nasrallah . nasrallah. >> well, just a couple of hours ago in new york, at the united nations, there mark white benjamin netanyahu literally said, we will continue degrading hezbollah until they are finished. two hours later, looks like that is definitely happening. mark white. thank you very much for that update. excellent as ever . now very much for that update. excellent as ever. now moving on. dame maggie smith, the star of the harry potter films, and downton abbey, of course , has downton abbey, of course, has died at the grand old age of 89. a statement from dame maggie, her son, says she died peacefully in hospital on friday morning and ellie costello looks back at her extraordinary life. >> reporter maggie, one of the world's most famous and distinguished actresses , dame distinguished actresses, dame maggie smith, was loved the
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world over . maggie smith, was loved the world over. in an expansive career spanning seven decades, she starred in over 16 television series and films. >> go with god. >> go with god. >> crispy, but perhaps dame maggie smith was most famous for her, starring role in the harry potter franchise as the formidable professor minerva mcgonagall. >> that was bloody brilliant. >> that was bloody brilliant. >> thank you for that assessment, mr weasley. >> from 2010, maggie smith appeared as violet crawley, dowager countess of grantham , in dowager countess of grantham, in downton abbey. >> you're a woman with a brain and reasonable ability. stop whining and find something to do. >> the show became a cultural phenomenon, with her character stealing practically every scene that she's in. >> who do you think i might have a drink? >> despite her popularity, dame maggie smith famously said that she never actually watched downton abbey herself. but she did have the box set, having
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received the highest achievement for film, television and theatre, comprising of two oscar awards, a tony award and four primetime emmys. in 1990, maggie smith was made a dame by queen elizabeth ii for her contributions to the arts. she received the companion of honour for her services to drama in 2014. she was married twice and had two sons. the actors chris larkin and toby stephens. she is survived two by five grandchildren. dame maggie smith will be remembered for her quick wit , her comedic timing and wit, her comedic timing and being one of britain's most recognisable and much loved actresses. maggie well, a magnificent career and i'm now joined by the showbiz reporter juue joined by the showbiz reporter julie anne trainor in the studio to discuss julie. >> the thing that i love about dame maggie is that, you know, i
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grew up. i'm no spring chicken. i grew up with her on the screens when i was a kid. my kids now watched the harry potter films. they absolutely loved dame maggie smith. so just spanning literally generations with the majestic career. >> yes, she's had a career and it spanned seven decades, which is so impressive. and as you say, your children know who she is and you know who she is, and she's just one of those people whose faces you instantly recognise. so it's really sad and so tragic today that she passed away. but also what an amazing legacy she's left behind. >> you know ? so when you look at >> you know? so when you look at the oscars, two oscars for the prime of miss jean brodie, the california sweep, but also trod the boards in the west end and laurence olivier gave a good big break at the start. and she's got that voice, hasn't she? now that that kind of proper british institutional, that that kind of proper british institutional , theatrical, institutional, theatrical, commanding tone and that was kind of in many ways her
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trademark had the poise, you know, many, many decades of hard craft went into that talent. now, that's not just the gift. now, that's not just the gift. now, she really, really worked at it. yes. >> well, she's from that generation as well of dame judi dench and dame joan collins. she started off in theatre. she then made her way to broadway and then eventually she got her big break in film. and from that she had hit after hit after hit. but i mean, she's known as well for her comedic timing and her dry wit. and obviously downton abbey . wit. and obviously downton abbey. and in the harry potter movies, we saw that sister act and many more. and also her films will live on forever, much longer. after her and the tributes have been pouring in. >> rishi sunak said. an icon of the stage and screen, of course , the stage and screen, of course, gyles brandreth, who'd been a friend of hers for many, many decades , said the saddest news decades, said the saddest news one of the greats. it marks the end of a truly golden era. >> yes, and whoopi goldberg, who worked with her alongside her and sister act. she also said
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that dame maggie was one of a kind and that she was so lucky to have worked with her, so i guess she'll have so many fond memories. like many others who maybe never got to meet her, but got to watch her from their homes, i don't think that putdown was so acidic with that down to these two boys. and i believe awas lly the family down to these two boys. and i believe awas so the family down to these two boys. and i believe awas so acidicmily down to these two boys. and i believe awas so acidic with that voice. >> you had a reasonable talent. voice. >> you had a reasonable talent. yeah, with a withering couple of yeah, with a withering couple of words. and that that delivery words. and that that delivery that you know, that sort of that you know, that sort of excellent voice. superb stuff. thank you very much , julie and excellent voice. superb stuff. thank you very much , julie and thank you very much, julie and trainer, for coming in to share thank you very much, julie and trainer, for coming in to share your thoughts on dame maggie your thoughts on dame maggie smith. wonderful. thank you. smith. wonderful. thank you. great now britain's youngest great now britain's youngest knife murderers, who were aged knife murderers, who were aged just 12 when they killed shawn just 12 when they killed shawn seesahai in a brutal machete seesahai in a brutal machete attack, have both been sentenced attack, have both been sentenced attack, have both been sentenced attack, have both been sentenced at nottingham crown court to at nottingham crown court to life with a minimum term of just life with a minimum term of just eight years and six months. and eight years and six months. and let's cross now to nottingham let's cross now to nottingham crown court and get the latest crown court and get the latest with gb news reporterjack with gb news reporterjack carson. jack, a lot of people carson. jack, a lot of people were absolutely flabbergasted by were absolutely flabbergasted by what they see as a very, very what they see as a very, very lenient sentence. that was sent lenient sentence. that was sent down to these two boys. and i down to these two boys. and i
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believe actually the family believe actually the family have just issued a statement recently echoing that sentiment. >> yeah. well the uk representative for angela, dorothea hodge, spoke a few hours ago with a statement from the family saying that whilst they recognised justice
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sentencing, judge justice, judge justice tipples spoke of the mitigating factors as to why that sentence was lowered to eight and a half years as a minimum term for both of those 12 year olds. talking about the first defendant as being extremely vulnerable in the trial, they had admitted to buying the weapon used in the murder for around £40 from a friend a month before the attack. but the judge cited elements of the pre—sentencing report, which said that first defendant had been groomed and exploited by older criminal gangs. talking about the second defendant, as well as having a supporting and supportive and loving relationship with his parents not previously known to police . in her sentencing police. in her sentencing remarks before she set out exactly the terms, she said that whatever sentence she passed down could not, of course, be comfort to the victim's family. but she told the boys when they were sentenced today that you killed sean when he was 19, starting out his adult life with everything to live for. his mother has spoken in interviews
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after his death, saying that he wanted to own a car, he wanted to own his own home, wanted to get an education. he'd only been in the uk for six months, having come here to have an operation on cataracts. such was the brutality of the attack. sean suffered a skull fracture and was also stabbed in the heart. but those 212 year old boys sentenced down today, becoming young britain's youngest knife murderers . murderers. >> jack golson there live from outside nottingham crown court. and let's speak now with the former scotland yard detective peter bleksley peter, welcome to the show. there's no getting around the fact peter, that eight years and six months for a brutal machete attack, they've already done 315 days. these lads are going to be out with good behaviour in seven years. six months they'll be out before their 21st birthdays. sean will never get to see his 21st birthday. his parents will never get to enjoy his 21st birthday and the statements that were
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read out in the court by justice tipple seemed to almost make out that the killers were the victims in this. a lot of people will be looking at this case today once again, peter bleksley and thinking , whose side is our and thinking, whose side is our criminal justice system really on? >> okay, so you've described them as killers. i've heard other people call them children . other people call them children. boysis other people call them children. boys is a fact. this is what they were lying, deceitful , they were lying, deceitful, savage, verminous, feral scum. that's what they were when they were. when they stood trial, they lied. they both blamed each other. and after the savage attack that took sean's life, one of them cleaned the machete with bleach and hid it within the framework of a bed in order to try and keep it hidden from law enforcement. and then we have one of them having the temerity to stand up in court and say they wish they hadn't gone to the park. they wish they hadnt gone to the park. they wish they hadn't bought the machete. they wish this hadn't happened when
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really, all along, they wish they hadn't been caught . they hadn't been caught. >> and peter, the judge again was making out. child one and i find it astonishing that we will never know which of these kids was actually responsible for the fatal blow for the murder. they wouldn't even fessed to that. so the parents will never know who actually did this peter bleksley, which i find an astonishing situation. they'll never get that moment of closure, which surely they deserve . but they were talking deserve. but they were talking about child one was a victim of trafficking, had been groomed by others, as you said . regrets others, as you said. regrets taking the knife out with him? that night? a machete he bought for £40. you don't buy a machete to cut your toenails with. it's an implement of death. and she even said you will now be in a safe place in prison. peter, i listened to that evidence and i was just exasperated beyond belief. how on earth must the family feel to have heard things like that? >> they are the unfortunate,
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tragic victims who will serve a life sentence. they will carry the sense of loss forever until they gasp their last. and they won't cope with it. they won't deal with it. all you actually do is try to learn how to live with it. whilst these two might be out to enjoy champagne, cake and candles for their 21st birthdays, it's beyond scandalous. and there was another huge miscarriage of justice today. today, courtesy of justice tipples. when she refused an application for us, the public and the media to find out who these children are . out who these children are. she's kept their identities secret. they'll serve their prison terms in secret. they'll be released anonymously, and we'll never get to know who these murderous vermin are . these murderous vermin are. >> peter bleksley strong words. but i want to press you on that final point. do you think in cases like this, the public
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interest is simply too high? we have a right to know who these killers are, irrespective of their age. >> we most certainly do. so that if they're released when they're 21 or 22, we know who they are and we can cross the road to avoid them. >> peter bleksley strong sentiment, and i think many, many people listening in will be totally in agreement with you. thank you very much. former scotland yard detective and great friend of the show, peter bleksley channelling common sense there. well, coming up later this week, labour floated a range of sin taxes. later this week, labour floated a range of sin taxes . today we a range of sin taxes. today we learned keir starmer might introduce a wait for it. a tax on your taps , your water to on your taps, your water to penalise heavy water users. is there anything the labor party don't to tax? i'm martin daubney on gb news,
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525. in a tv exclusive, a woman who claims she was sexually assaulted by the late billionaire mohamed al fayed has been speaking to gb news presenter patrick christys. and here's a sneak peek of that interview. >> i had this look in his eyes and i'll never forget it. it was like a monstrous i'm going to get what i want from you, you know? i don't care how you feel. and i do think because it was in a public place. so to speak, he he would have gone further had he would have gone further had he could. i think he was worried somebody might come in or i might have started screaming or something like that. so he made his exit pretty quickly, and i think he would have definitely raped me if he'd had half the chance, 100%. >> you catch the whole of that interview on patrick christys show later this evening, exclusively on gb news. i'm matt, sara and her husband earlier on in the studio and they are absolutely wonderful. absolutely full commendation to
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her for speaking out. please make sure you tune in to watch that tonight. patrick christys tonight live from 9:00 only on gb. news now could families with large gardens and swimming pools be facing higher water bills under the labour party? well, there are reports today that ministers are looking into hitting those with larger properties with higher tariffs for excessive use. now it does make you wonder in the run up to this budget in a few weeks time, is there anything that the labour party are looking to tax? well joining me now to discuss this is william yarwood from the taxpayers alliance. or should that be the tap taxpayers alliance. william, welcome to the show. it's astonishing. we've already got water metres , we've already got water metres, people that use a lot of water, a lot of water already pay a lot of tax. what on earth are the labour party playing at? >> well, good afternoon, martin, and thanks for having me on the show. >> and yeah what are they playing at? >> and the answer is they just simply want to squeeze as much money out of the british people as they possibly can. but the
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interesting thing with this is, is that starmer and reeves are clearly, you know, playing around in the background, thinking about what they can tax and what they can't tax. and in the conclusions that they're coming to is actually the tax burden in this country, isn't high enough. we at the epa have been banging our heads for many years now about the current tax burden we have in the uk, which is at a 70 year high, and in by the end of this decade, that's going to reach an 80 year high. and, you know , what else are and, you know, what else are they asking? you know, it could be far worse than that. if keir starmer and reeves keep taxing british people on anything that they like and want to do. >> and you see, william, the whole thing about this is it's one of those dreaded stealth taxes. and we've seen it before. jeremy corbyn tried to introduce the garden tax. if you can afford a big garden we're going to tax you on that. that's sadiq khan floated the idea of a patio tax. if you can afford to patio your garden or put a nice drive out front or build an extension, well, you can afford a tax because guess what? it might affect the water flow. of course, climate change. there's another tax. these are all just modern forms of daylight robbery, aren't they? they're literally trying to tax us for
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things we have to use if you can afford it. if you've got a few bob, they're going to take it off you anyway. >> yeah. completely. martin. and actually on a on a deeper level, i think it's just a classic form of socialist class warfare is if you have a nice thing, like if you have a nice thing, like if you have a swimming pool in your backyard, which , by the way, backyard, which, by the way, martin, many people in this country simply don't have due to the fact that there's not enough space. but if you do, well, i'm afraid you need to be taxed on that. if you have a large garden and, you know, use your hose to, you know, water plants or water leaves or whatever it might, might be, they'll go, oh, sorry, mate, you can't be doing that because i need to tax you for it, so it's just a classic form of labour's socialist class warfare, which is hitting people for, you know, having nicer things and quite frankly, i don't think that that's what this country should be. >> and william, you're we've also seen this week the idea of taxes being floated, sin taxes, the idea of putting more tax on alcohol duty on beer, on cider, on spirits, on smoking, on fun, on spirits, on smoking, on fun, on life. it just seems to be a
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direction of travel that we're going to be taxed to the hilt by this new puritan labor party to. if you're having a bit of fun, we're going to tax you for it, because guess what? it's not good for you. >> yeah, completely. and it's not the job of the government to tell us what we can or cannot do with our bodies and what we can and cannot enjoy. i mean, the labour party, you know, doesn't seem to care that british hospitality is on its knees already. and has been since the pandemic, with record numbers of nightclubs , pubs and the like nightclubs, pubs and the like closing down. and with these new proposed increases on alcohol duty or the potential banning of smoking from outside pubs and restaurants, all they want to do is drive these things into the ground so that you have nowhere to have fun, nowhere to eat, nowhere to drink, nowhere to smoke so you can just sit at home and be miserable. and quite frankly, the british people need to stand up and completely reject this nonsense. >> what a dismal dystopian future, william. we need to just get in the pub and have a later on, don't we? together, thank you very much for joining us from the taxpayers alliance. william yarwood. excellent as even william yarwood. excellent as ever. thank you. now it's time now for the great british giveaway now. and the biggest
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in the in the region. these are live pictures of where the explosion happened just moments ago.the explosion happened just moments ago. the idf say they conducted ago. the idf say they conducted a precise strike on the central headquarters of the hezbollah, embedded under a residential building in the heart of the city. we'll, of course, keep you up to date at the very latest. as it happens . and britain's as it happens. and britain's youngest knife murderers, who were 12 years old when they killed shawn seesahai with a machete, have both been sentenced to life in with a minimum term of eight and a half years. the killers were convicted in june of murdering the 19 year old, who was stabbed in the heart and suffered a fractured skull in november of last year. they're the youngest convicted murderers in the uk since jamie bulger's killers robert thompson and jon venables back in 1993. more than 108 flood warnings are in place across england are days after some heavy rain. images posted
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on social media also show tracks at a station in shropshire completely submerged. the met office says northern parts of central england and wales are the hardest hit . and dame maggie the hardest hit. and dame maggie smith , known for the harry smith, known for the harry potter films and downton abbey, has died at the age of 89. her family released a statement saying she passed away peacefully in hospital earlier this morning. she leaves two sons and five loving grandchildren who were devastated by the loss of their extraordinary mother and grandmother. well, those are your latest gb news headlines. i'm lewis mckenzie. more from me in half an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts .
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slash alerts. >> thank you very much, lewis. now hundreds of you have been getting in touch about the sentence doled out to those 212 year old killers. earlier on today, the youngest killers, of course, in the united kingdom since the killers of james bulger. and it's fair to say you are absolutely furious about this. you know, these kids will be out of jail by the time they are 21. sean will never see his 21st birthday, and neither will his parents get to celebrate that moment. i'll read out some of those views later before the end of the show. but joining me now is tom harwood, who is in tonight's for dewbs& co. tom, what's on your menu? >> huge amount to cover on the show tonight, martin. not least we're going to get an update from mark white. has israel just assassinated the leader of hezbollah? rumours swirling onune hezbollah? rumours swirling online about that. we'll get to the truth . and of course, the the truth. and of course, the big topic of discussion after those two children were sentenced. today, we're going to ask where on earth were the parents? should parents be held
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responsible for the actions of their children in violent cases like this, a big topic of debate. but more than that, we're also going to be talking about starmer and trump. can they really bury the hatchet? is david lammy the man who was foul mouthed about the former us president? really, the man to mend that relationship? also mohamed al fayed, of course, those allegations are swirling and only growing, but we're asking, can rich men get away from anything in this world? finally, turns out, young people , finally, turns out, young people, generation z, they're the worst at recycling is the green dream dying tom harwood that seems like an excellent action packed menu. >> superb stuff and a great link. may i say superb? well done mate, great show 617 that's dewbs& co with tom harwood. now if you want to get in touch with me here @gbnews, you know to what do. simply go to gbnews.com/yoursay and i'll read out the best your messages a little later in the show. i'm
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welcome back. it's 539 on martin daubney on gb news now . a study by the on gb news now. a study by the media research centre in america claims that google is favouring vice president kamala harris in search results over donald trump , search results over donald trump, promoting left leaning articles ahead of trump's campaign website. now, the study argues that this bias could influence voters as an increasing number of americans rely. of course , on of americans rely. of course, on search engines for their political news. it's an astonishing story. and joining me now to discuss this is the vice president of the mrc free speech america , dan schneider, speech america, dan schneider, who leads the division that conducted this google study. thank you so much for joining conducted this google study. thank you so much forjoining us here in the uk. dan schneider, i think this story is astonishing. it's incredible your claim is that google are attempting to
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influence the outcome of the election by the news that people gather . actually, in a way, the gather. actually, in a way, the democrats said that vladimir putin was the last time around. tell us more . tell us more. >> yeah, well, we martin, we do have a big election coming up here in the united states. >> and it's a bit astonishing to many of us. >> but about 8% of american voters still are undecided which way, which way they will go. and they are currently trying to, you know, acquire information to inform their decision. and we know through through research at the pew research centre that 66% of americans still get their news through search engines, primarily google, 66%. and with 8% of americans still undecided , 8% of americans still undecided, google is going to have a huge impact on how people vote. now, we know from past elections in america that that google swayed anywhere from 6 to 8 million
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votes by how they manipulate information and news. and our latest study shows just how that is being accomplished by by pointing people in the direction of, say, the new york times or politico or axios, these, these media outlets in america that are pretty hard left, you know, to influence people's decision making. >> so ostensibly , dan, if you >> so ostensibly, dan, if you search for donald trump's presidential campaign, you are fed a bunch of articles that tend to disfavour his take on it. you're given articles biased against his viewpoint. conversely, if you search for kamala harris , you're given this kamala harris, you're given this glowing report about how everything's great and dan , i've everything's great and dan, i've noficed everything's great and dan, i've noticed myself, i often search for the polling information. of course, there are hundreds and hundreds of polls in america, and i always seem to get fed the polls that favour kamala harris. is that part of the issue? they're pushing the information all the time that she's the best. she's holier than thou and she's winning. and therefore people believe that. and that may impact how they go and vote.
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>> yeah . may impact how they go and vote. >> yeah. martin's may impact how they go and vote. >> yeah . martin's the social >> yeah. martin's the social science on this is very clear. when people read critiques, even like movie critiques or theatre critiques, it influences how they then perceive what they watch. and martin, i just want to stress one thing. we've been doing these studies for over a year now , and there's a shift at year now, and there's a shift at google for over a year in america. you'd get different results in the uk and elsewhere in the world, but in america , in the world, but in america, when you try to find any campaign websites for any of the republicans seeking the nomination, you would not get any of the 16 candidates websites except for a guy named will hurd, who never was polling above 1%, whereas joe biden and then later kamala harris. their websites were the number one search result. google was completely erasing the republican campaign websites. so google now is finally producing donald trump's campaign website, albeit still in a lower rank than than kamala harris's. but you're right, they're flooding the field, forcing people to sift through lots of very
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negative stories about donald trump and glowing stories about kamala harris before they finally get to their campaign website . website. >> and then anybody knows that to try and influence the search engines like this costs a heck of a lot of money. i mean, could you put a price on the kind of favouritism that it's putting forward for the harris campaign must be millions, if not billions of dollars. >> so martin, in our american electoral system and our campaign finance laws, when a company puts forth resources to influence that company is required under law to file with our federal election commission . our federal election commission. but google has refused to do that. google claims that it's not trying to interfere in elections or trying to change the impact of it. of elections or trying to change the impact of it . of course, the impact of it. of course, that's false. i frankly think they should lawyer up because i think they're clearly in violation of us federal law. >> it's an astonishing story. and thank you. i find it fascinating that this is just
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happening in plain sight. a lot of people have been saying for a long time, dan schneider, that big tech has its agenda and is trying to influence the outcome of elections. an incredible story. thank you so much for joining us here in the uk and keep up the good work. that's the vice president of mrc free speech america, dan schneider. thank you very, very much indeed for joining us. now on the way, a report by which has exposed the true extent of convenience supermarket rip offs with some stores, some stores charging double even for a can of chickpeas. we'll name and shame the worst offenders in just a tick with harry wallop. i'm martin daubney on gb news, britain's news channel
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welcome back. it is 548. very excited about this next item as you can probably tell by the grin on my face, because a recent which survey has pitted supermarkets,
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convenience stores prices against those in their bigger shops, the difference will completely and utterly shock you. it did me. now over 42 products were more expensive, and the smaller convenience stores. that's no small tesco express versus the big supermarket , with 57% of all supermarket, with 57% of all items taking more money from shoppers pockets. a british favourite, the mr kipling bakewell slice , was 54% more bakewell slice, was 54% more expensive in tesco express, compared to its bigger store. the main tesco outlet. so which small supermarket stores are ripping us all off the worst? to get more on this, i'm joined by the consumer journalist harry wallop. harry huge fan of your work really sincerely. and this is something that truly and utterly gets my goat. i must admit i do shop at convenience stores, don't we? all in bigger and bigger numbers? we expect to pay a and bigger numbers? we expect to pay a bit more, but the difference is they're having a laugh mate . laugh mate. >> yeah, it's a very big premium, as you say. more and
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more of us are shopping at local stores because we've changed how we live our lives post covid. you know, first of all, a lot of us are just not going into the office. >> so we're in our own neighbourhood. so you rely on those local stores and the supermarkets themselves know that we're just we don't do big weekly shops at the big supermarket. >> we do more and more top up shops. so they are opening. they've basically stopped opening big new supermarkets, and now they only open these convenience stores . convenience stores. >> so the sainsbury's local, tesco express and morrisons, morrisons never used to have convenience stores. >> now they've got 900 and they want 2000 of them. >> these morrisons dailies . and >> these morrisons dailies. and i'm glad you mentioned that, because in the league table of shame, morrisons daily, they're the worst offenders. >> yeah 21% premium. >> yeah 21% premium. >> so that equates which has done the number crunching. that equates to as much as £862 a yeah equates to as much as £862 a year. if you only bought your groceries from a morrisons daily versus a big morrisons. >> and next up is sainsbury's local. that's a 14% premium versus the big shop, as it were. tesco express . that's my local
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tesco express. that's my local 11% more expensive across the whole range of household items and average basket. that is a hefty mark—up and harry, you hit even worse if you don't have a clubcard. yeah, so this is a really, really annoying thing andifs really, really annoying thing and it's quite a new thing. >> you get this jul pricing in the supermarkets now, where they basically bully you into getting one of these club cards, these membership cards. so it's nectar in sainsbury's, it's the clubcard in tesco. morrisons have one and the point is they want you to sign up to these so they can get your data. they persuade you you're going to get cheaper prices. but what really happens is you get a standard price if you've got the card and if you haven't got the card, you pay a if you haven't got the card, you pay a small fortune. so it's very, very annoying. and then to make matters worse, you go into the small stores, the convenience stores, and you just don't get the same level of discounts. so you have you might have one of these loyalty cards, but you're just not getting the same volume of discounts. >> and if you go to the big shop and another thing again, that got my goat in this year. >> goat's bean got a lot. >> goat's bean got a lot. >> martin. yeah i do subscribe
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to the to which you know, because i'm tight. i like to save money. i take great joy in saving money. another thing that got my goat is that 50% of brits now shop at these stores at least once per week. as you said, it's a part of our lives. but if they offer a branded good like, say, a heinz ketchup, they only offer the most expensive variants, so you don't get the choice of branded goods. you only get the priciest. so it seems every which way it's stacked against you to try and save dosh at these small supermarkets. >> yeah, i mean, the supermarkets would say in their defence. yeah. and they've always said that, you know , to always said that, you know, to run these small stores, you're more expensive. they're often on the high street, so they're going to pay a bigger rent. and that means also more business expenses. and they might have to pay expenses. and they might have to pay their staff a little bit more. and then there's the cost of getting all the goods, lots of getting all the goods, lots of different deliveries rather than one big articulated lorry. so that's their defence. the question is, and they would say, well, if you want the same pnces well, if you want the same prices in the small stores and the big stores, we're gonna have to put all our prices up. but
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does the premium need to be quite this large and the supermarkets have done very well in the last couple of years. and their profits have recovered and more than just recovered from the sort of slump during covid. >> now, harry, as i've got here, can i probe you for like ways of saving money this winter? you and i had a very excited exchange in the ad break. i just bought the missus an electric clothes dryer because they cost , clothes dryer because they cost, like £0.09 an hour to run. much cheaper than switching your heating on or things like that. worth buying. yeah. >> on that particular one, a heated clothes rack is a fantastic buy. they're quite bulky. yeah. and you think , well bulky. yeah. and you think, well they're just like a drying rack. but you plug them in so they gently heat the rods, gently heat and they will save you a small fortune. i mean, we're talking as much as £100 over the year versus a tumble dryer. tumble dryer is unbelievably expensive to run, so heat a clothes dryer. excellent. buy. >> what else is a good way of saving dosh, particularly with the heating bills being so pncey the heating bills being so pricey now what about are they like those little blankets you can sort of sit in and plug in
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and they're so i've just gone round all the sort of the retailers press shows . retailers press shows. >> so lakeland who sort of sell kind of kitchen and sort of slightly weird gadgets. so they sell some of these heated clothes dryers. they also do have, if i said dry robe, what a lovely sort of cold water swimmers where i don't want to. i mean they look a bit like idiots when they walk their dog around the park, but they're unbelievably warm and people on film sets often wear them when they want to keep dry and warm. but there's heated versions. now lakeland are selling. they're amazing. they're battery operated, and you turn it on. so if you've got to go and like support your kids on the edge of the football pitch, you'll keep toasty warm. it's fantastic. or indeed you can wear them at your desk working from home. you don't need to turn the heating on. >> on. >> all right, well, i'm getting one of those for the missus and for myself. now, i've got a quick view here from a viewer. michael says i'm sorry, but the extra cost for a local convenience stores is reasonable. remember that. all shops could have done it. harry. thank you so much for joining shops could have done it. harry. thank you so much forjoining us in the store. superb stuff . in the store. superb stuff. that's all the time for me tonight. but don't forget it's tom harwood up next. he's
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standing in for dewbs& co. i'll be back 3 pm. next week. be a pleasure to see you then . thanks pleasure to see you then. thanks for joining me all this week. forjoining me all this week. have a fantastic weekend and i'll see you on monday. all the best. cheers . best. cheers. >> looks like things are heating up. >> boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news. >> afternoon. welcome to your latest weather update from the met office here on gb news. the weekend will bring quite a lot of fine and dry weather, but it will be pretty chilly to start with and more wet and windy weather is on the way for later sunday. that's coming from this area of low pressure behind me. we've got high pressure moving in at the moment. this low brought all the heavy rain and the flooding over the past couple of days. that's out of the way. we've now got northerly winds bringing a few showers, but quite a lot of fine and dry weather. but northerly winds also bring a chill and it is
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going to be pretty cold overnight tonight. temperatures are going to dip down with these clearer skies across the heart of england and wales well down to 3 or 4 degrees. that's in towns and cities. some rural spots may well dip to down freezing onto saturday. and yes, a chilly start , but by and large a chilly start, but by and large a chilly start, but by and large a fine and sunny one for england and wales. more cloud tomorrow for scotland and northern ireland. still a bit more cloud coming into parts of wales and south—west england. the odd shower , 1 or 2 showers into shower, 1 or 2 showers into north norfolk to start the day for northern ireland and scotland. quite a lot of cloud here too, but maybe a bright start across the borders, cloud and some outbreaks of showery rain across the bulk of scotland that will continue. so rain on and off over western scotland. but i suspect much of the east of scotland will brighten up a little through the day, with maybe a bit of brightness. the winds not as strong tomorrow as well, so with these lengthy spells of sunshine across england and wales, although we start pretty cold and temperatures by the afternoon will still be a touch below average for the time of year,
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it'll probably feel a little bit warmer. certainly feeling a bit warmer. certainly feeling a bit warmer than today. generally 11 or 12 in scotland. further south, and we might squeak up to 15 celsius. and then on sunday, again, a chilly start, but a dry start for most and many northern and eastern parts will stay that way. but down to the south and west rain will be marching in and winds we have a met office yellow warning in place for those gusty winds spreading across parts of wales and southwest england during sunday. bye for now. >> that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers sponsors of weather on >> news
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