it's theirs. and of course it's yours. we'll be debating, discussing and at times we will disagree. but no one will be cancelled. so joining me for the next few hours is jonathan lewis. he also broadcast on columnist lizzie cundy. coming up after the confirmation that hezbollah leader hassan nasrallah has been killed after beirut airstrikes, i'll be asking, do you back israel? they've got to pull up on x throughout the show, asking you that very question. uri geller will be live from tel aviv with his thoughts and give us an update and giving us an update from his perspective. then in my niggle as this gaffe haunts sir keir starmer, i call again for an immediate ceasefire in gaza. >> the return of the sausages, the hostages . the hostages. >> and we discover yet more discrepancies. >> a working from home, if we can really will help prevent infections. >> i'm asking, are infections. >> i'm asking , are labour >> i'm asking, are labour turning out to be as bad as the

tories then in difficult conversations, i'll be speaking to a former miss england , rahima to a former miss england, rahima muthama. now she is a survivor from domestic abuse, which takes many forms and in her case it was coercive control. she wants to educate people to stop this type of abuse. but before we get started, let's get your latest news headlines with sophia wenzler . wenzler. >> nana. thank you. good afternoon. i'm sophia wenzler with your headlines at 3:00. terrorist group hezbollah has confirmed their leader has been killed in airstrikes on southern lebanon in a tweet this morning, the idf say hassan nasrallah will no longer be able to terrorise the world. >> the lebanese health ministry is reporting that at least six people have been killed and 91 wounded in the attack in central beirut. on your screens now were live pictures of where that missile attack happened. soldiers and aid workers have been taking part in rescue operations looking for survivors

and victims in the rubble. reuters news agency are currently reporting that iran's supreme leader has been transferred to a secure location inside his country, with heightened security measures in place. now it's been revealed that boris johnson considered raiding a dutch warehouse over a vaccination row with the eu. at the time , the astrazeneca the time, the astrazeneca vaccine was at the heart of a cross—channel row, with the former prime minister claiming the eu were slowing down the pace of the rollout. in the uk. according to an extract from his memoir, mrjohnson according to an extract from his memoir, mr johnson convened memoir, mrjohnson convened a meeting of senior military officials back in march of 2021 to discuss the plans, which even he admitted were, quote, nuts . he admitted were, quote, nuts. in other news, at least 45 people have been killed as hurricane helen makes its way across the southeast of the united states , leaving millions united states, leaving millions without power. emergency crews are racing to rescue people trapped in flooded homes after the category four hurricane

struck the coast of florida last night , barristers representing night, barristers representing alleged victims of mohamed al fayed say there are now 60 survivors and they have credible evidence of abuse at fulham football club. the former harrods and fulham fc owner is accused of multiple sexual assaults after a bbc investigation was published last week. one of the alleged victims spoke exclusively to patrick christys on gb news last night. >> he had this look in his eyes and i'll never forget it. it was like a monstrous i'm going to get what i want from you, you know, i don't care how you feel. >> and i do think because it was in a public place. >> so to speak, he he would have gone further had he could. >> i think he was worried somebody might come in or i might have started screaming or something like that. so he made his exit pretty quickly, and i think he would have definitely raped me if he'd had half the

chance, 100%. >> now the king and queen are visiting holyrood to mark the 25th anniversary of the scottish parliament being reconvened. the celebration showcased scottish music and culture and was attended by local heroes who have been nominated thanks to their contribution to local communities. his majesty spoke of the success of the devolved parliament from that day until this . this. >> through its work over a quarter of a century , this place quarter of a century, this place has not just thrived , but in has not just thrived, but in doing so has borne witness to the enduring relationship between the parliament, the crown and the people of scotland . crown and the people of scotland. >> meanwhile, the king has also been leading tributes for national treasure dame maggie smith after she passed away yesterday at the age of 89. in a statement, the king praised her warmth and wit, while the prime minister marked what remarked she was beloved by so many for

her great talent. she leaves two sons and five loving grandchildren who were devastated by the loss of their extraordinary mother and grandmother , just stop oil grandmother, just stop oil activists have targeted van gogh's sunflower painting again. three climate activists targeted the artwork just an hour after two other activists were jailed for a similar protest. two other activists were jailed for a similar protest . back in for a similar protest. back in 2022, the national gallery says the two paintings targeted yesterday were removed for examination and were found not to have any damage . and finally, to have any damage. and finally, six rare sea turtles have been rescued and returned to their natural habitat thanks to the royal navy. the mission was part of a link up with two marine life organisations to deliver half a dozen loggerhead turtles to warmer waters after the creatures were washed up on uk shores and nurtured back to health. those are the latest gb news headlines for now. more in half an hour for the very latest

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your comments, post your your comments, post your thoughts gbnews.com/yoursay . so thoughts gbnews.com/yoursay. so of course, the lead story today , of course, the lead story today, hezbollah have confirmed that their leader, hassan nasrallah , their leader, hassan nasrallah, was killed by the israeli defence forces in airstrikes in beirut last night. israel launched targeted attacks on the lebanese capital throughout yesterday, killing six and wounding 91. now, this is a major provocation to hezbollah's backers, iran, who have pledged to support resistance against israel's wicked regime. those are their words. but is this the start of all out war in the middle east? well, joining me now is former nato commander and former ministry of defence director general chris parry. chris, thank you very much for joining me. a lot of people would say that this is some sort of major escalation. what is your view on this particular move in the conflict? >> well, nana, remember, we spoke about two months ago and i said to you that it was entirely logical that israel would have

to go after hezbollah once they got engaged in gaza. >> and this has proved the case, and what has happened is that israel has taken pre—emptive

and conducting missiles, drones and conducting sort of targeted attacks on the ground against israel for the past, you know, the past eight months, lord dannatt since the 8th of october. and we also have to bear in mind that 80,000 israelis have had to evacuate northern israel and live somewhere else. while this has been going on, and at some stage, israel was going to have to confront hezbollah, because of all the threats that were coming. we have to bear in mind, nana you know, this, that hezbollah is an armed mafia organisation, they oppress the local lebanese people, both christians and muslims. they run a huge international drugs organisation, and they're armed to the teeth, and, you know, if that wasn't bad enough, there are also the main agents for iran in the region, so israel has struck a blow for all of us in the free world who think that this sort of thing shouldn't happen, >> because there does seem to be

there is a slight narrative, an undertone that, you know, israel, they're not following international law or they're breaching. there are those who are saying this, but i would argue that seems the reasonable thing to do is to try and attack the those who are in command of the those who are in command of the organisation. and if they are shielding themselves behind the population and civilians, then i'm afraid that that that that's the way it goes . i'm that's the way it goes. i'm wondering now then, what do you feel will be the next move in your mind , chris? your mind, chris? >> well, i think that iran right now is looking for a war with israel. it can't really take israel. it can't really take israel on. israel is not looking for a war with iran. and i think you'll find that there'll be very rapid moves to find out where the common ground is. israel has made the point. you know, if you misbehave, we're going to attack you. and as you say, they've taken the minimum action they can to actually deal with the threat. they've still got a to job do in gaza. and frankly, if i were the houthi

leadership right now, i'd be thinking about booking my holidays to qatar or somewhere else because they've done two out of three of their main enemies. i should think number three is probably on their list as well. >> what would you say that watching israel actually should be a chilling warning to us here in this country about our lack of preparedness for any sort of assault of any kind, and the actual fact that the idf seem incredibly organised and united behind their leader , behind their leader, >> it's a democracy. nana, you know, just like ours is. and the idf will do what its political masters need it to do. and i think we have to understand, since the 7th of october last yean since the 7th of october last year, israel has been constantly under siege. i mean, we see the houthis, we see hezbollah, we see hamas. but actually israel is fighting on seven fronts at the moment. if you include syria, iraq, iran as well, and so this is a country that actually is fighting for its life. and those of us in the uk don't seem to

appreciate that. it's a tiny country. it doesn't have strategic depth. it always has to be vigilant. and when it's threatened, it has to hit very hard indeed. and, you know, one of the things i've learned over my career is you don't mess with the israelis. it's as simple as that. >> yeah, well , it would seem >> yeah, well, it would seem that way. and most impressive for such a small piece of land, as you say. but they are fighting for their lives. again, though, i put it to you that this country, having seen the way they're fighting and the way they are protected, they have they are protected, they have the iron dome, which protects them from localised missile attack and things like that. again do you think perhaps we need to be looking at our own security very carefully, because we are nowhere near as organised as israel. we are nowhere nearly as israel. we are nowhere nearly as prepared for anything. >> yeah, i mean, at the end of the day, we're part of the nato alliance, of course. so we've got a large number of other partners who can help us. we've got our nuclear deterrent. and i keep saying to people on broadcast media and online, our nuclear deterrent, it gives us

the ultimate guarantee of our security. and it's actually cheaper per head than house insurance is. so, you know, we've got a really good system. but you're absolutely right. our conventional forces are in no way fitted to confront the sort of threats we face today. and that's everything from armed terrorist groups that have military capability all the way through to these totalitarian powers like china , russia and powers like china, russia and iran itself, of course, who would do us harm if they could. >> yeah. but as you said, but the nuclear deterrent is a last resort. so it's a weapon of last resort. so it's a weapon of last resort. you would want to use the other things first to make sure that you never really had to use that deterrent. it doesn't stop people from invading or doing things as we can see that you could still be invaded. and also, as we've seen with vladimir putin as well. it's almost as though he is he is sort of tempting nato to see if nato will actually respond, because if anything did happen, would nato really respond that that's that's the question. even though you say we're part of it, would they respond, though? they

wouldn't want to escalate things? they've been very tentative . tentative. >> no, no. the minute russia stepped across the border, one metre nato would respond . metre nato would respond. otherwise nato doesn't have a future. every single member of nato has to believe that it would be protected against an external threat. and, you know , external threat. and, you know, here in the uk, we've got to be very careful with the defence review that's coming out that we make the right choices. and i'm of the belief that actually europe can look after itself. you know, let the poles and the, the germans deal with all the panzer stuff. we've got the best tank trap in europe and we need to concentrate on very high capability weapons systems and personnel that can deliver a very, very sharp punch to anybody that comes near us. >> all right, chris parry, thank you very much. he's the he's the former nato commander and former ministry of defence director general, chris parry. right now , general, chris parry. right now, today in london, a protest and counter protest planned are ongoing. the anti—government group unite the kingdom are

meeting to campaign on issues such as prioritising brits and stopping the boats. now they have been met with the group stand up to racism, who are there for the counter protest with signs such as refugees welcome and stop the far right. let's cross over, live and speak to gb news reporterjack carson who is at these protests. jack. all right. jack. so it seems a bit odd because unite the kingdom, i don't think is a particularly racist message. and stopping the boats, i don't think is a particularly racist thing to say, but talk me through what you're seeing there and what is happening at your protest. at the protest ? protest. at the protest? >> well, what's happened now? we've had a very peaceful dispersal from the metropolitan police of both those that stand up police of both those that stand up to racism protests and this unite the kingdom protest that have both were both organised here in trafalgar square today, the to stand up racism protest started around 12 pm. that's an hour before any of the protesters that were here for the unite the kingdom movement

turned up to make their own voices clear about the issues that are important to them by their own, by their own estimations. stand up to racism. estimate there were around 300 of their members here today. they said, amongst other things, in their speeches that were delivered here at trafalgar square today. they must we must mobilise against racism and fascism in workplaces, schools and communities, one of the speakers said i'm a supporter of women, but not fascist women and other such things . chants of other such things. chants of nazis off our streets , fascists nazis off our streets, fascists off our streets. there was a stop. tommy robinson banner as well, laid out upon part of trafalgar square here. and then around 1:00, when the unite the kingdom protesters only about 20 or so of them that turned up today. but one gentleman who was singing rule britannia on the steps of trafalgar square, here with his england flag in both of his hands. one of the counter—protesters actually ran up, ran up from behind him and tried to snatch that england

flag off him . that caused a bit flag off him. that caused a bit of a situation with the metropolitan police, who were able to take him out of that situation. he wasn't arrested. he was let go. but the protester that was holding that england flag said that it did break the two sticks, that the flag was , two sticks, that the flag was, was held to. and then they stood here. many of the unite the kingdom protesters stood here with tape over their mouths. they felt like that was a more powerful message to bring today, holding placards such as stop two tier policing, stop a two tier justice two tier policing, stop a two tierjustice system, stop illegal immigration. now claire austin, who is the founder of unite the kingdom, spoke to us earlier on. here's what she told us. what would you say? >> look, we're not the far right folk that you're portraying us to be. we're just moms, we're sisters, we're aunts. you know? we're just here because we're concerned. >> we're concerned that the media, not us, because we love gb news, but the other media and the government are just trying to turn everything against us. >> you know, we're here trying

to show that we are concerned about genuine concerns and we're not that. >> do you know what i mean ? i >> do you know what i mean? i was yes, you can hear very much the message that claire was trying to bring across as to why they felt like they had to come out and protest here today. >> they are a very much an independent movement. they are independent movement. they are independent of more of a wider movement that tommy robinson is involved in, but also as, as well their concerns that they've put forward, particularly around immigration. as you as you heard there, they are concerned about there, they are concerned about the levels of illegal immigration in this country. now, speaking at the labour party conference, just in this last week, yvette cooper, the home secretary, has said that they don't want the violence and disorder that we've seen on the streets across the country over the past few months. silence a serious debate on immigration. that's something that the home secretary says has been missing for too long. amid the chaos, gimmicks and damaging what she calls a ramped up rhetoric from

certain protests and certain other political parties. but as i was mentioning, a very largely peaceful protest here today, a lot of shouting, a lot of noise from both sides, but all have been dispersed , perfectly by by been dispersed, perfectly by by the metropolitan police. >> jack carson, thank you very much. right. well, just coming up to 20 minutes after 3:00. you're with me. i'm nana akua . you're with me. i'm nana akua. this is a gb news. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. coming up at 340. royal biographer angela levin will be here to give us the latest from behind the palace walls. but next, it's time for the british this hour i'm asking, do you back israel?

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great british debate. this hour. i'm asking , great british debate. this hour. i'm asking, do you back great british debate. this hour. i'm asking , do you back israel i'm asking, do you back israel now? it's been confirmed that the leader of hezbollah, hassan nasrallah, has been killed in beirut following an airstrike . beirut following an airstrike. israel have vowed to reach anyone who threatens them, but has has this latest move put the world on the brink of a potential world war? so for the great british debate this hour, i'm asking, do you back israel? well, joining me now is broadcaster and columnist lizzie cundy and also political commentatorjonathan liz cundy and also political commentator jonathan liz . all commentator jonathan liz. all right. jonathan liz, i'm going to start with you. jonathan, do you back israel and their efforts in this latest particular mission that they've that they've had done with this leader of hezbollah? >> well in a word no, no . why? >> well in a word no, no. why? because you are looking at a vast death toll in lebanon, entirely innocent civilians caught up. we wouldn't accept that if a country was bombing us, if there was a terrorist hiding or a terrorist cell that was, say , operating in a tower was, say, operating in a tower block that was used by residents

in london and a country bombed that tower block to get rid of the terrorist cell, which is a terrible terrorist cell. and everyone can agree that they should have no business doing what they do. that's that's not up for debate . hezbollah is up for debate. hezbollah is a disgusting organisation. that's certainly something i can agree with, but we wouldn't accept the death toll that goes with that. and lebanon is now seen more people being killed in a single day than has happened since the end of the civil war in 1990. and when you see today that entire tower blocks are now complete rubble in parts of beirut and elsewhere in lebanon, with potentially hundreds of people buried in that rubble, i don't know how anyone could say that that was justified , unless that that was justified, unless they just don't think that those people had lives just as valuable as ours. >> okay, so what about the fact that hezbollah have been bombing israel since the october the 7th? repeatedly, constantly. israel have had to move people from the north, and the only reason that israel does not look

like gaza or any of those other countries is because it has an iron dome , because it is used to iron dome, because it is used to constant attack. what would you say to that? >> i'd say that a war crime is a war crime, no matter who's doing it. you asked me if i backed israel and in this particular. and i'm just telling you my answer in that if we could talk about whether i backed hezbollah and the answer would also be no, if they're sending rockets over to israel, obviously i would oppose that as well and do oppose that as well and do oppose that, look, the uk and other countries are proposing a ceasefire. there has to be a diplomatic solution . there will diplomatic solution. there will never be a military solution to this. because even if you were to get rid of hezbollah, take out the leaders, as israel has done today, obviously then it's not it's not just going to say, oh, you know what? we won't have any kind of replacement for hezbollah. we're always going to be pro—israel now and get along well with israel. that is not going to happen. and israel knows that as well as anybody. so if hezbollah goes or the leadership is taken out, something will fill that void. so you can't bomb an ideology. you can you can sort of take you can take individuals out. but this is there is no end to this war. that is not diplomatic. >> well, that is exactly what israel is doing.

>> lizzie cundy what, hezbollah are terrorists. >> you can't equate them to israel because they are terrorists. you can't do a deal with terrorists. that's what they are. and the sad fact is there could be actually a ceasefire now, this minute, if hamas gave us back the hostages and gave, you know, not related to hamas, it's completely different. but hezbollah, they're all linked together and supporting and supporting each other. and the fact is , israel other. and the fact is, israel has a right to defend themselves. look, no one wants war. no one wants to see innocent children and families pred innocent children and families ripped apart like what we've witnessed . but sadly, that's witnessed. but sadly, that's what happens in war. there are consequences to what happened on the 7th of october. >> hezbollah was responsible for the 7th of october. >> they are all in it together. >> they are all in it together. >> no, no, hezbollah was not responsible for the hamas were. >> but hezbollah. but hezbollah said that we will continue to fire rockets over unless israel stops their fight with gaza. so this is all linked. so lizzie is right. the only reason they're doing it, and they've said specifically that they will

continue to bomb israel until israel stopped the war with hamas. and they've been hamas do not want to stop the war, and they've been continuing to bomb israel since the 7th of october. >> well, that's that's obviously true , that hezbollah has been true, that hezbollah has been bombing israel since the 7th of october. and, of course, there was, you know, that the conflict between israel and hezbollah long predates the 7th of october. yeah, most people will agree that the main hindrance to agree that the main hindrance to a ceasefire deal is actually benjamin netanyahu. that's what people are saying in washington. well, i think he's not agreeing to say it's hamas. >> well, what about hamas? >> well, what about hamas? >> hamas? look, i'm not i'm not here to defend hamas, but i'm saying that netanyahu does not want a deal that will involve the return of the hostages. >> he said that quite plainly, when indeed hold on. when did he say that he doesn't want a deal that involves returning the hostages? i don't recall that he hasn't. >> well, he has been offered a deal >> well, he has been offered a deal. he was offered. they were offered a deal. the deal offered a deal. they were offered a deal a deal. they were offered a deal. actually, in the very few days after the 7th of october, that would involved a total a full release of all the hostages. this is on the record. this isn't just me saying that. and he turned it down because one of the war aims of israel and you can argue whether it's right or wrong, but it's just a

fact, was to take out hamas, not just to return to the hostages. if hamas literally did offer to return all the hostages, and israel was not happy with that. thatis israel was not happy with that. that is why you have the families of the hostages who are protesting in in tel aviv and jerusalem every single week. they hate netanyahu, i think. >> i think you'll find that actually some people do back netanyahu and say it's not everybody, but very few of the hostages families. but i think you will find that actually, perhaps it's the difficulty was actually doing a deal with terrorists. >> well, look, hezbollah are now in chaos. their communications have gone down, but what we need now is just to have some cool, sensible heads on because we are a world at war. >> but that's exactly what. that's exactly the point. we need. that's why. that's why our government is proposing a ceasefire and have not stopped bombing israel. >> you cannot just be labelling it all the fault of israel, because that you are. you don't like the israel government for what they've done. hezbollah have been bombing israel since 7th of october, which was the most horrific, horrific massacre. lizzie, we cannot ever forget about.

>> i said i said a second ago that i'm not here to defend hezbollah and that obviously a ceasefire requires both sides to ceasefire. the point i was asked the question, do i back israel and i the answer in this particular issue , bombing particular issue, bombing towerblocks, raising towerblocks towerblocks, raising towerblocks to the ground in beirut with hundreds of civilians taken out? i do not support that. >> that's the answer. well, hang on, there were 91 people who were injured, and there were, i think, a handful who died . think, a handful who died. >> hundreds of people have been killed in the last week. >> no, no, no, but we're talking about this this this specific incident, though, and obviously with this, this guy, he was killed. it was a direct attack initially focusing directly on him that i think is a reasonable attack. but then unfortunately, where you're sort of theory falls is that they are they are hiding behind civilians. so what do you do then? >> well, it's a war crime is a war crime. >> yeah, but they're hiding behind civilians. >> i just gave you the example. >> i just gave you the example. >> no, no, no, no, but i'm asking you a question. i know a war crime is a war crime. and whether that is a war crime is negligible. i don't know whether that's actually the case, but when you are hiding behind civilians and you've got all your armaments underneath the tower block whilst you're attacking another country, what do you suspect? what do you

suggest? should they just leave them to carry on because they've strategically positioned themselves where civilians are? >> no, no, we know who's causing this. we know that israel has incredibly well—developed technology, and they they can pinpoint exact individuals that they want to take out. okay, so why are you in support repeatedly? >> what about the pages which specifically took out individuals were the pages. >> and members of their family as well. that was a war crime. well, most people . well, most people. >> all right. so if you literally you can't have one rule, there's literally no way in your mind that's not true. from what you've just said, that you could only take out the terrorists. so there are plenty of ways you could do. >> israel has done many times. israel has done it many, many times. they're taking out individuals. they take they took out the guy in iran. they have taken out individuals all all over the place. so a war in a war, clearly it's legitimate. clearly it's legitimate to target a person hides behind civilians, i don't think i think it's easy for us, international law is actually quite clear on that point. but if you that if you are targeting civilians, then that is a war crime. >> no, no, no. what if you're not though are you? >> and what's hezbollah's response going to be to this for

their leader taken out? are they going to go in full front. is iran going to back them? what is going to happen? because no one wants a huge war in the middle east, because it will affect us here. let me tell you, there has to be a ceasefire. why have they continued to keep bombing israel since october the 7th, a horrific massacre, the fundamental the broader picture is that israel is israel wants to live in security and safety for its people. >> they do. the way to do that is to not wage permanent war with your neighbours. and obviously it's at war is a two way street. i'm not defending hezbollah or hamas, but i'm saying the only route to this will be the only route to peace will be the only route to peace will be the only route to peace will be diplomatic. all right. >> well, we would all agree that the proper route to peace should be diplomatic. but i think it's a bit unfair, as you know, sort of it sounds to me like you're attributing a lot of the blame for this to israel. >> of course, i'm attributing a lot of the blame to them. not all of the blame, but a lot of it. >> but what about hezbollah for their rockets are terrible. >> they're terrible, jonathan. >> they're terrible, jonathan. >> they're terrible, jonathan. >> they're terrorists. yes. i said that. i said that quite clearly they're terrorists. i said it quite clearly i'm not. but that doesn't mean that they are responsible for everything. >> well, no, nobody's responsible for everything.

>> but you can't do a deal with the terrorists. >> you can't do deals with terrorists. we've seen that plenty of times. the ira were terrorists. we did a deal with the ira. >> okay, okay, but but i think that on this one, when they don't maybe want to have a two state solution, but they don't really want to do the deal with israel doesn't want a two state solution either. >> sorry. >> sorry. >> hold on a second. when they don't really want to have that solution with you, then it's quite impossible, isn't it, to do with israel doesn't want a two state solution either. >> the israeli government does not want to. i do know that netanyahu has literally said, i don't want a two state solution anymore. it's no longer the israeli government position. >> well, it's no longer probably because the others won't do it. i don't know. that's not true. >> that's not true. the palestinians say they want a two state solution. that's not hezbollah. the palestinians heard them. well, they do. >> well, we'll we'll come back on that one to find out whether that's actually true. but you're with me. i'm nana akua. this is gb news. we're live on tv, onune gb news. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. plenty more coming up this hour, including my royal roundup with angela levin. but first, let's get your latest news headlines with sophia wenzler lakshmi parthasarathy. >> nana. thank you. it's 333. these are your headlines from the gb newsroom terrorist group.

hezbollah has confirmed their leader has been killed in airstrikes on southern lebanon. in a tweet this morning, the idf say hassan nasrallah will no longer be able to terrorise the world. the lebanese health ministry is reporting that at least six people have been killed and 91 wounded in the attack in central beirut. on your screens now are live pictures of where that missile attack happened . soldiers and attack happened. soldiers and aid workers have been taking part in rescue operations, looking for survivors and victims in the rubble. reuters news agency are currently reporting that iran's supreme leader, the ayatollah , has been leader, the ayatollah, has been transferred to a secure location inside his country with heightened security measures in place . now, at least 43 people place. now, at least 43 people have been killed as hurricane helen makes its way across the southeast of the united states, leaving millions without power. emergency crews are racing to rescue people trapped in flooded homes after the category four

hurricane struck the coast of florida last night. now, in other news, it's been revealed that boris johnson considered raiding a dutch warehouse over a vaccination row with the eu. at the time, the astrazeneca vaccine was at the heart of the cross—channel row, with the former prime minister claiming the eu were slowing down the pace of the rollout in the uk. according to an extract from his memoir, mrjohnson according to an extract from his memoir, mr johnson convened according to an extract from his memoir, mrjohnson convened a meeting of senior military officials back in march 2021 to discuss the plans, which even he admitted were, quote, nuts . and admitted were, quote, nuts. and finally, the king and queen are visiting holyrood to mark the 25th anniversary of the scottish parliament being reconvened. the celebration showcased scottish music and culture and was attended by local heroes who have been nominated thanks to their contribution to local communities. his majesty spoke of the success of the devolved parliament from that day until

this, through its work over a quarter of a century, this place has not just thrived, but in doing so has borne witness to the enduring relationship between the parliament, the crown and the people of scotland . crown and the people of scotland. those are the latest gb news headlines. now it's back to nana for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com forward alerts

>> wow, there's always something going on in the royal household and this week has been no different. and each saturday i'd love to give you a rundown and who better to do so than royal biographer angela levin, right. so angela, let's talk about harry in new york without

meghan. and of course , he's very meghan. and of course, he's very gloomy speeches for the charities. this is not the usual, harry. we know. yes. >> this is not harry we know. what's very interesting is why is he there by himself? he can't do anything about without meghan. and i think for the first charities that he was going to, he was incredibly anxious. he was doing this with his hands and kept on altering his hands and kept on altering his tie and really nervous. and actually that shows you that he's actually so that she's controlling him so much that he doesn't know to how manage. and all of the conversations were very, very negative . you know, very, very negative. you know, he's very sad about this. he's very sad about this. we've got to change the world. we've got to change the world. we've got to change. but actually what he means, i think, is i want to change my world. so you have to work out why is it happened? was meghan fed up with him to get rid of him for ten days? was are they really just going to divide their work? what actually is the

reason? and my own feeling is that this is the beginning of the end, because i think once she finds that she's okay on her own , then she's satisfied. i own, then she's satisfied. i mean, as we see throughout her life, she drops people when she no longer leaves them. and i think that will be what happens around the corner. >> do you think maybe he's kind of woken up a little bit because sometimes, you know, men are in this sort of haze of love. you know, we've all done it. the rose tinted spectacles. then suddenly we take them off and we can see, oh my gosh, what have i done? do you think perhaps he's seeing something different? or do you just think that actually it's healthy that they're doing separate things ? well, it is, separate things? well, it is, isn't it really. >> that's another thing. they might go their own special ways, but harry now really needs her all the time. he needs to know whether he should go behind her or in front of her. but i think if he was very popular , he would if he was very popular, he would be very positive with the way he talks about the charities. the thing that we saw that was very popular. i have to get the man's

name, was that when he was doing a halloween game with jemmy fallon, it was a haunted maze and the two of them had to do it. and there was the original harry. he was laughing, he was enjoying himself. he was running in there were all sorts of creatures coming out and shouting, and he was as happy as can be. and i thought, there he is. he's gone back to being a teenager and enjoying himself . teenager and enjoying himself. and you see the difference between then you could see it was, i mean, from what i know of harry, which is quite a lot, is that he changed according to what was going on. it was a silly, scary nonsense, but he absolutely loved it. and then he went, what does that tell you? well, he actually he's. yes, but at least there was something there that i think, you know, when they say you put one unbraid of grass and then the rest can bloom, that might help him. i think going around charities where he's worried about the sky and the and people

watching television and, the press , he hates all that. so press, he hates all that. so he's very, very negative here it was. i'm fine. i'm okay. >> back to happy harry for a short while. let's move to on catherine, because princess kate, she, she has gone to see the ballet, hasn't she? >> yes, she's she's. we really feel that she's getting better now . she's gone to. she went to now. she's gone to. she went to sadler's wells to see the akram khan version of giselle. he's a marvellous creator. so he's done a lot of ballets that were interesting and brilliant, and she said that it was moving, an inspiration. she went to a matinee, not to be late and not to be there when the children came home. i mean, she's been on houday came home. i mean, she's been on holiday to, to windsor in windsor castle. she did an early years meeting , which i think was years meeting, which i think was marvellous. she sat there very nicely dressed . she looked fine nicely dressed. she looked fine

with all the people around her because this is the thing that she's been mostly keen of. and she's been mostly keen of. and she went to balmoral just with william. i expect the children stayed with their grandparents and, they had a very nice week. she went to church and she's very interesting because william's not interested in going to church, but obviously she is, and maybe because she's not so well yet, that that gives her peace and understanding, but i think it's really a sign of hope and that is terrific. >> yeah, well, you've just got to take one day at a time and just live live your life to the full every moment. yes. what about boris johnson now, apparently his attempts to keep harry and meghan back in the uk before they left. >> well, he had given what was called a manly pep talk to harry, which both the downing street and buckingham palace asked him to do. that's in 2020. before he left, meghan had gone , before he left, meghan had gone, but he was asked to do that and

he said it was absolutely hopeless. he wasn't the least bit interested. neither of them went with aides, but they weren't interested in him. and i think tomorrow in the paper we'll discover more . but they we'll discover more. but they just did this as a please follow us and no, yesterday. so i think he but boris johnson, it's very interesting that the that they were really wanted they could have had a marvellous time. they could have been given very interesting, very, wonderful things that they could have done. but meghan was determined to go back . i mean, she'd made to go back. i mean, she'd made lots of threats about if he didn't come straight away. they couldn't wait for everything to be sorted neatly. and now you know, what are they doing? it's very low grade. >> it does seem, you know, that the there's just not much left for them to do. i mean, what else is there? what can they can't tell any more nastiness on their family because we know everything. yeah. and it's just i don't know why they did all that. i don't know why they thought that that would make.

>> well, she wanted to be back in america. i think she was very disappointed here. she thought that she would be able to make a modern, monarchy and that the queen would listen to her straight away and make all the changes that she thought was right. but actually, if you change your country, you change a place and you go to the extraordinary royal family you can't just start telling them what to do. you have to be there a long time. any job, you don't go at the top, you go down at the bottom or the middle. >> well , exactly. but but then >> well, exactly. but but then you're still you in a way. if you're still you in a way. if you go somewhere else, you're still you, so you can't run away from yourself. that's that brilliant song, bob marley. you're running and you're running away, but you can't run away from yourself. that's true. angela levin, always a pleasure. although in meghan's defence, i'm sure she would say that she's just trying to live her life and enjoy her life to the best she can, given the circumstances, i'm not sure of that. i think i would just have a little bit more fun. angela levin, really good to talk to you. that is royal biographer angela levin. that was my royal round up next, it's time for the great british debate. this hour. i'm asking, are you still

interested in boris johnson

all right. before we move on to some messages have come in one from gary hammond, who actually says that said, just watching your show and jonathan lewis, he is largely not quite telling the truth of this politely , and truth of this politely, and nothing has been said about the possibilities now for lebanon. if hezbollah can be completely destroyed . so that's what he's destroyed. so that's what he's told me. sorry i missed that. oh, you didn't hear that? okay, so gary monti, who's the chair of the national jewish assembly , of the national jewish assembly, he said, just watching your show. and jonathan lewis, he is largely talking. nothing has been said about the possibilities now for lebanon. if hezbollah can be completely destroyed. >> when did i say anything? >> when did i say anything? >> oh, sorry. he's listening to what you said. >> so that's about i didn't i didn't i didn't contradict that at all. >> okay, well well, well that's that's what, that's what. >> gary. >> gary. >> gary. >> gary i'm sorry. gary. gary.

he says you're wrong, right? lizzie cundy . welcome back. lizzie cundy. welcome back. welcome back to both. right. it's time for the great british debate. the sound i'm asking, are you still interested in bofis are you still interested in boris johnson? the prime minister's memoir is to be published next month. and interesting things are coming out of the woodwork , including out of the woodwork, including claims that he planned to invade the netherlands during covid to seize british developed vaccines. so the great british debate this hour, i'm asking , debate this hour, i'm asking, are you still interested in bofis are you still interested in boris johnson? lizzie cundy? i'm going to come to you first. are you still interested in boris johnson? he's got his book out unleashed. >> yes, he is unleashed and i mean, i am actually, because i do know boris and i know his father and his family and he's interesting, he's entertaining. people say he's like donald trump on a budget, but i actually enjoy him very, very much. and i can just picture this with boris. him like on a on a speedboat dressed in black, about to go in. i actually called my dutch relatives today and they were horrified, thinking this could actually happen, but i had to remind them this is boris johnson and take

it with a pinch of salt. it's a bit like james bond with a bit of enid blyton all rolled in, maybe a little bit of truth, but you know what he's like. he's a little walter mitty , but it's little walter mitty, but it's fun and i'd rather read his book than keir starmer's, which i see at the pound shop walking past today. >> is this keir starmer? >> is this keir starmer? >> it's great. if you've got insomnia, it will. >> it will help you. i thought he stopped the book. not still there. jonathan lewis, i'd rather have . rather have. >> i'd rather have colonic irrigation every single day for the rest of my life than read , a the rest of my life than read, a page of boris johnson's memoirs . page of boris johnson's memoirs. unless i'm being paid to, for example , to go on a television example, to go on a television programme to talk about it. i have zero interest in boris johnson. borisjohnson have zero interest in boris johnson. boris johnson is a writer of fiction, and i don't think he's a very good writer at that. if i wanted to read fiction, i'd read someone a lot better than him. >> all right. well, people have got in touch. ulez nana is boris soon to be of this parish, as you hinted? potentially, i can say no more. molly says i am

totally backing israel. lebanon has been taken over by a terrorist organisation. they told the lebanese soldiers to go away, so i. so who is in charge? stephen says, when commercial flights begin, i'm going to start a gofundme page to pay for a one way ticket to mars for some somebody . i wonder who. i some somebody. i wonder who. i wonder who that could be. cool. well, there's two people actually on the plane. one of them is matthew stadlen . them is matthew stadlen. >> please don't put me in obe together. ever been a rocket in that stuff? yes. yes, please. they do that for us. >> very good, very good, stephen. very good. that was stephen. very good. that was stephen butler. they're sending us that message. >> and i've just had a funny tweet in saying that someone's going to buy loads of copies of bofis going to buy loads of copies of boris johnson's book because it's more absorbent than kleenex. >> they don't give them money. i tried, i tried to give the money to kleenex. >> right. and robin en israel says, i hope israel continues to eradicate terrorists. it wasn't long ago that we had bus

bombings in london, murders in most european and american cities. i can think of all all from one region and one brand of one version and one religion that somebody review there, but they've not said obviously which one that is. and it's down to you to think what you think, grumpy granddad said. it's interesting to see how the loony left are viewing israel. we know they all think alike on everything, so it gives us a rough idea of how starmer is seeing it. >> really, i don't think starmer and i agree on very much to be honest. >> really don't agree. keir starmer i'm much more to the left of keir starmer. >> you know that even further left i. starmer is a complete centrist. look i wanted someone to become prime minister. i'm glad he is prime minister. i want him to be doing better as prime minister. i want labour to be more radical. that's all i want. >> all right. thank you jonathan. right, next, my niggle on the prime minister who's facing a tough time, isn't he. i mean, you've seen all the stuff that's been going on. sausages sorry. i don't want to laugh because it's not even funny, is it? the actual issue is not funny. but that's just how bad

it gets. stay tuned. that is on the way. but first, let's get an update with your . weather. update with your. weather. >> it looks like things are heating up . boxt boilers heating up. boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb. >> news . >> news. >> news. >> hello and welcome to your gb news, weather update from the met office. we've got showers still persisting in the northwest today. sunny spells elsewhere before turning more unsettled from the west on sunday. so taking a look at the bigger picture, then we've got a ridge of high pressure extending across the uk. we do have this frontal system that's just going to bring a focus for some showers through the rest of the afternoon. so cloudy conditions across scotland with outbreaks of rain pushing through, especially across orkney. elsewhere, we'll see a few showers across northwestern parts of england, but on the whole, a largely dry night to come with some clear spells as well. it's not going to be as chilly as last night, but we

could still see a touch of frost, especially in the countryside . but as we start countryside. but as we start sunday morning, we've still got cloud and rain persisting across orkney through the early start of the day, but further across central parts. a chilly start across scotland, perhaps with a touch of frost, but some sunshine as well. across northern ireland we're already seeing the start of that low pressure system bringing increasing amounts of cloud here, but further across eastern parts of england that's where we'll hold on to some bright weather to start the day, but it will turn increasingly cloudy as the day progresses, and that's all to do with an area of low pressure moving in from the west . pressure moving in from the west. so we have got a met office wind warning in force , giving some warning in force, giving some strong winds, especially across southwestern parts of england and into wales. 50 possibly up to 60mph. and that's also going to 60mph. and that's also going to bring in some increasing amounts of cloud and rain further towards the east, though holding on to a drier day with some bright or hazy sunshine.

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well . well. >> hello, good afternoon and welcome to gb news. we are live on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua and for the next two hours me and my panel will be taking on some of the big topics hitting the headlines right now . this show is all right now. this show is all about opinion. it's mine, it's theirs. and of course it's yours. we'll be debating, discussing and at times we will disagree, but no one will be

cancelled . so joining me today cancelled. so joining me today is broadcast and columnist lizzie cundy and also political commentatorjonathan liz lizzie cundy and also political commentator jonathan liz boo hiss. no i'm joking. commentator jonathan liz boo hiss. no i'm joking . coming up hiss. no i'm joking. coming up after the confirmation that hezbollah leader hassan nasrallah has been killed after beirut airstrikes, i'll be asking, do you back israel? the poll is up on twitter throughout the show, asking you that question. then we'll go live to uri geller. he's there in tel aviv. will be giving finding his thoughts on an update from his perspective. in my niggle that's on the way . next, perspective. in my niggle that's on the way. next, as this gaffe haunts sir keir starmer , i call haunts sir keir starmer, i call again for an immediate ceasefire in gaza. >> the return of the sausages, the hostages and we discover yet more discrepancies a working from home if we can, really will help prevent infections . help prevent infections. >> only you're not working from your home. i'm asking are labour turning out to be as bad as the tories then? difficult conversations. i'll be speaking to a former miss england , rahima

to a former miss england, rahima muthomi. she's a survivor from domestic abuse, which, as you know, takes many forms. and in her case it was actually coercive control. she wants to educate people to spot this type of abuse that's on the way. but before we get started, let's get your latest news with sophia wenzler . wenzler. >> nana. thank you. good afternoon. i'm sophia wenzler with your headlines at 4:00. terrorist group hezbollah has confirmed their leader has been killed in airstrikes on southern lebanon . in a tweet this lebanon. in a tweet this morning, the idf say hassan nasrallah will no longer be able to terrorise the world. the lebanese health ministry is reporting that at least six people have been killed and 91 wounded in the attack in central beirut. on your screens now are live pictures of where that missile attack happened. soldiers and aid workers have been taking part in rescue operations, looking for survivors and victims in the rubble. reuters news agency are

currently reporting that iran's supreme leader, the ayatollah, has been transferred to a secure location inside his country with heightened security measures in place . now, it's been revealed place. now, it's been revealed that boris johnson considered raiding a dutch warehouse over a vaccination row with the eu. at the time, the astrazeneca vaccine was at the heart of a cross—channel row, with the former prime minister claiming the eu were slowing down the pace of the rollout in the uk . pace of the rollout in the uk. according to an extract from his memoir, mrjohnson according to an extract from his memoir, mr johnson convened according to an extract from his memoir, mrjohnson convened a meeting of senior military officials back in march 2021 to discuss the plans , which even he discuss the plans, which even he admitted were, quote, nuts . now, admitted were, quote, nuts. now, in other news, at least 45 people have been killed as hurricane helen makes its way across the southeast of the united states, leaving millions without power. emergency crews are racing to rescue people trapped in flooded homes after the category four hurricane struck the coast of florida last

night. now, back in the uk, barristers representing alleged victims of mohamed al fayed say there are now 60 survivors and they have credible evidence of abuse at fulham football club. the former harrods and fulham fc owner is accused of multiple sexual assaults after a bbc investigation was published last week. one of the alleged victims spoke exclusively to patrick christys on gb news last night. >> he had this look in his eyes and i'll never forget it. it was like a monstrous i'm going to get what i want from you, you know? i don't care how you feel. >> and i do think because it was in a public place, so to speak , in a public place, so to speak, he he would have gone further had he could. >> i think he was worried somebody might come in or i might have started screaming or something like that. so he made his exit pretty quickly, and i think he would have definitely

raped me if he'd had half the chance. 100%. >> now the king and queen are visiting holyrood to mark the 25th anniversary of the scottish parliament being reconvened. the celebration showcased scottish music and culture and was attended by local heroes who've been nominated thanks to their contribution to local communities. his majesty spoke of the success of the devolved parliament from that day until this , through its work over a this, through its work over a quarter of a century, this place has not just thrived, but in doing so has borne witness to the enduring relationship between the parliament, the crown and the people of scotland . crown and the people of scotland. meanwhile, the king has also been leading tributes for national treasure dame maggie smith after she passed away yesterday at the age of 89. in a statement, the king praised her warmth and wit, while the prime minister remarked she was beloved by so many for her great

talent. she leaves two sons and five loving grandchildren who were devastated by the loss of their extraordinary mother and grandmother. their extraordinary mother and grandmother . just stop oil have grandmother. just stop oil have targeted van gogh's sunflower paintings again. three climate activists targeted the artwork just an hour after two other activists were jailed for a similar protest. back in 2022, the national gallery says the two paintings targeted yesterday were removed for examination and were removed for examination and were found not to have any damage and finally, six rare sea turtles have been rescued and returned to their natural habitat thanks to the royal navy. the mission was part of a link up with two marine life organisations to deliver half a dozen loggerhead turtles to warmer waters after the creatures were washed up on uk shores and nurtured back to health. those are the latest gb news headlines. now it's back to nana for the very latest gb news

direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . forward slash alerts. >> good afternoon. it's fast approaching seven minutes after 4:00. this is gb news. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua . it digital radio. i'm nana akua. it just gets worse. sir keir starmer managed to make mincemeat. sorry. sausages out of his own party conference speech. >> i call again for an immediate ceasefire in gaza. the return of the sausages , the hostages . the sausages, the hostages. >> i told my seven year old son about this. he rolled over on his back in hysterics. doesn't look good for sir keir on the global stage. then there was that awkward kiss at the end, his wife wearing a borrowed dress rather than one given to her by labour donor to the frontbench lord alli. although borrowed or given , what's the

borrowed or given, what's the difference? as if we're going to police whether it was ever returned. now, it transpires, sir keir starmer has admitted that lord alli gave him £32,000 to pay for clothing, double what was declared for that specific purpose. so on top of the 16,200, keir received 10,000 in clothing donations in october last year and 6000 in february this year, which he did not declare as clothing rather as money for his private office, although which office? that might be who knows? as this week it was revealed that keir starmer used lord ali's house to give a covid message, telling us all to stay at home. he even went to the trouble of dressing up the background, so it would appear as though he were in his own house. i think you call that subterfuge a working from home. >> if we can really will help prevent infections . prevent infections. >> he claimed that it was to protect his son, who was doing his exams from the press and journalists who were apparently hovering around outside his home. only the timings were

wrong, so that didn't make any sense. so after all the pontificating and the tirade of abuse that boris johnson and the tories received from the opposition at the time, that many on the labour front benches had their snouts firmly in the lord alli trough. talk about double standards. and it looks to me that he even tried to disguise it. the question that needs to be asked is what is the what is expected in return for all of this? when i go on a hot date for example, i'm wined and dined and made to feel like a princess. my date wants something in return, so i struggle to understand why keir starmer didn't appear to sort of understand how that looked. >> do you see how it looks to some people that there's one rule for you in terms of being able to claim this stuff, that other people don't have access to? >> well, i think that's why the rules are there to declare it. but look, every day. do you get it, though? every day you get how it looks. if you're putting to me, beth, that i should have stayed in my kentish town home and disrupted my son's gcses,

that that was the right thing to do, then i think you should put that to me. >> okay , well, you're saying >> okay, well, you're saying that you shouldn't have stayed in the home because you wanted to protect your boss. >> you wanted him to be able to do his gcse. parents and any parent would have made the same decision. >> the question is, what does lord alli get in return ? before lord alli get in return? before we get stuck into the debates, here's what else is coming up today for the great british debate this hour. i'm asking, is stopping the boats racist? stand up to racism? seem to think so. then gp and medical writer doctor renee hoenderkamp will join me in the pulse to discuss the death of a woman believed to have undergone a non—surgical brazilian butt lift and how dangerous they can be. that is on the way in the next hour . as on the way in the next hour. as even on the way in the next hour. as ever, i've got difficult conversations. we'll be discussing domestic abuse that is on the way. don't forget. send me your thoughts, post your

comments gbnews.com/yoursay . comments gbnews.com/yoursay. ten minutes after 4:00. joining me now, former labour minister denis macshane. right, denis, was i unfair in my niggle with regard to sir keir starmer ? regard to sir keir starmer? >> i don't think so. no, no , i >> i don't think so. no, no, i will forgive you. >> this one, but i was fascinated to learn today from none other than michael gove taking over the very right wing spectator that david and samantha cameron also had free clothes to a sort of secret tory slush fund . slush fund. >> michael gove telling us not not the wicked guardian michael gove or a tory mp, sir laurence robertson, who trousered £82,000. but all of it declared because of course, the problem, the interesting aspect of all of this is everything now has to be declared. so we're finding out. and your question about what is lord alli? get in return? >> what does he get in return?

>> what does he get in return? >> well, not a lot. >> well, not a lot. >> i mean, i remember when before the 1997 election, this guy is a genius. >> he came from one parent family, immigrant background and got into tv very early on and made a fortune. everyone acknowledges he's a genius at it. and before the 1997 election, he decided to give peter mandelson the use of a car and a chauffeur. so peter was doing extraordinary things for laboun doing extraordinary things for labour. they could whizz around without worrying about parking. what else he got? he's already he's a lord. quite soon afterwards i don't quite know what he does get in return. >> it seems a bit odd though, doesn't it , because i >> it seems a bit odd though, doesn't it, because i think that a lot of people, because it feels as though the narrative is. well, as long as i've declared it, then it's okay. it's not really okay, is it? especially when you're taking winter fuel payments. you're saying that there's a black hole, that we're all, you know, the labour party are literally falling, throwing themselves into, but you're talking about a black hole and saying, now this is terrible and how things are going to get worse before they get better. and then you seem to have your snout in the trough to the tune of hundreds of

thousands of pounds. they're all at it. >> i think it's horrible. >> i think it's horrible. >> i think i may have been on your or one other gb news programme arguing consistently that we need to have democracy pay that we need to have democracy pay for democracy, that when politicians run around , whether politicians run around, whether it's in the old days from trade unions or boris johnson . unions or boris johnson. trousering 14. not personally, of course. for the party £14 million from putin oligarchs. it now is, just it distorts everything with dear old boris, i was just looking at the dutch press today, his threat to invade them. i mean, he really is making britain a laughing stock. >> well, no, his point was that he wanted to take the astrazeneca vaccines that were rightly ours from a factory, that he thought that we should be getting them. yeah. >> well, that was the headline of de telegraaf, which is a bit like the telegraph very serious conservative paper in the rushes . conservative paper in the rushes. bofis conservative paper in the rushes. boris johnson planned invasion of the netherlands . we do, we of the netherlands. we do, we are, we are, we are we. he is just, you know, the laughing stock of europe. i don't know

about that. >> and i think keir starmer might have come close to that with all of this that's going on. if people are watching and seeing, i think the issue that people have with this is the utter hypocrisy of the labour party, the fact that they were standing pontificating on high about integrity and everyone was saying keir starmer is a man of integrity. well, he's a very rich man. he's got his own statutory instrument for his pension. he doesn't need the money. he could spend his own money. he could spend his own money and people are suffering and he's taking freebies. it's just and it's not just him, it's literally the entire front bench of the labour party. they're all at it. >> and at the same time , all >> and at the same time, all members of the liberal democrat party, when they were in government, tories when they were in government. i agree with you. it's hitting labour hard. i'm not i'm not dissenting one little bit. and i tell you, i'm on an ex—labour mps whatsapp group and the people who are going absolutely off the wall are all the women retired mps because they really sense that they don't like to be told, oh, you're a woman and something's got to give you free clothes in order to be an mp. i mean, this makes a mockery of politics. it is damaging and i think the

consequences will last. >> and i also think that the main issue for it as well is the question of my monologue is that what are you getting in return for this? and there has to be some kickback somewhere , even if some kickback somewhere, even if it's softening the person up for something or why would you, you know, why would you give somebody a gift without needing to give them a gift? there's got to give them a gift? there's got to be and also, won't it affect that person's ability to be completely objective when making a decision about something that you're involved in? >> well, let me confess as mp for rotherham, i could walk into the directors box at rotherham united home games and i'd see the chief constable there, the leader of the council, maybe the vicar, i mean , that was a normal vicar, i mean, that was a normal part of bigwigs of the local community. once i went up as a minister to new balance, you know , the sports firm up in, in know, the sports firm up in, in the lake district, fabulous place. and i came away with a new balance t shirt. i probably still got it now. did they get anything in return? i'm not

sure. >> oh, come on, dennis, at shirt. it's hardly the same as, like, 32 grand's worth of money to buy clothes . to buy clothes. >> oh, sure, sure, but fortunately, my clothes taste is so bad. i mean, i'm challenged by working my way through primark. >> well, i'm glad you said it, denis macshane. thank you very much . right. it's fast much. right. it's fast approaching 16 minutes after 4:00. thank you to denis macshane. now to the big story today. hezbollah have confirmed their leader, hassan nasrallah, has been killed by the israeli defence forces in airstrikes in beirut. last night, israel launched targeted attacks on the lebanese capital throughout yesterday, killing six and wounding 91. this was a major provocation to hezbollah's backers, iran, who have pledged to support resistance against israel, what they call wicked regime. is this the start of all out war in the middle east? well, let's go now to senior military intelligence officer philip ingram . philip, does this philip ingram. philip, does this feel like the start of something big, or do you feel that this is perfectly reasonable , justified

perfectly reasonable, justified and kind of low level in a sense? >> no, we're we're certainly going up the ladder of escalation. i don't think it's an inevitable start of a middle east war. that will depend on how iran and hezbollah react to this. but i don't think the israeli operation to dislocate hezbollah has finished quite yet . hezbollah has finished quite yet. >> i want to get your view on the major attack that israel used in your view, was that targeted? i see it as targeted. some people are saying it's indiscriminate. where do you sit with that? >> well, we have to recognise the israelis haven't admitted this yet, but you can't get something more targeted. you know, the israeli intelligence will have identified that, how how the senior hezbollah leaders communicate with each other . communicate with each other. they've set the conditions for them to abandon their smartphones, and they wanted to replace something. they will have known that they wanted to replace those smartphones with pagers, and they will have identified that it's only the senior leadership that will have

those pagers. and they were adjusted in such a way that the explosive that was within the pages was so small that it would have an immediate impact on the individual carrying it. and potentially those that are within a few feet of the individual. but it's an awful lot safer than dropping a £500 bomb in an apartment to kill one person, which the israelis , person, which the israelis, under international law, would have been legitimately allowed to do. so it was an exceptionally well targeted attack . attack. >> yeah. and this particular attack as as has been reported, has killed one of the leaders or the main leader of hezbollah , in the main leader of hezbollah, in terms of what israel should do next, what would you say, philip. >> well, it's not just killed, you know, the leader of hezbollah, it's also killed the deputy commander of the iranian revolutionary guards corps, the quds force, abbas hassan, who's in there, who was in liaising with him? he is the link to iran. i think what the israelis

are going to do now is continue to , move into or have the to, move into or have the potential to move into southern lebanon, to move out any hezbollah forces that are occupying an area where they can rocket israel, as they have done every day since the 8th of october last year, displacing 60,000 israelis and killing tens of israeli women and children, in the in the process. now, this area is something that is subject to united nations security council resolution 1701, signed in and delivered in 2006, ordering the area to be demilitarised. apart from the un forces who are based in there, it also called for hezbollah to be disbanded. that hasn't happened and hezbollah have used that area to launch attacks against israel continuously, and the israelis, i think, have every right to go in and destroy hezbollah. remember hezbollah may have individuals in the lebanese government, but they do not represent lebanon and the hezbollah military forces are not the lebanese military forces. so they're destabilising

lebanon as much as they're trying to destabilise the region because they're under iranian control, >> and it does seem that and i have noticed listening to some of the other radio shows and other radio reports, that a lot of the people in lebanon don't want this, and they're not really fans of hezbollah anyway. so it does feel as though. sorry. go on. >> philip, i was going to say, you know, you're you're 100% right. you're hezbollah are not just this militant military militaristic organisation. they're also one of the biggest organised crime gangs in the area. and you know what organised crime gangs are like are terrorising the local population. they are one of the biggest money laundering gangs in the middle east. they're one of the biggest drug supply gangs in the middle east, and they're one of the biggest people trafficking gangs, trafficking women and children for sex across the middle east. they're not a nice bunch of people. >> yeah , it does seem that way. >> yeah, it does seem that way. and it's odd, though, that people don't seem to be. a lot of people don't seem to be able to get their head around just how dangerous these people are. thank you very much, philip. thatis thank you very much, philip. that is phillip ingram. he's a former senior military intelligence officer. those are his thoughts. what are yours?

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good afternoon. it's just coming up to 24 minutes after 4:00. this is gb news. we are britain's news channel. if you just tuned in. where have you been? it's all right. fair enough. you're here now. nana. raisi here now. as the conservative party conference kicks off tomorrow. don't miss that, because camilla tominey shows 930 sunday morning where tom harwood will be joined by all the tory leadership candidates. so stay tuned for that 930 sunday morning on gb news. that is tomorrow, but stay tuned for that . but that's why tuned for that. but that's why i'm asking. listen this lot, they're chatting away. but are they're chatting away. but are they as bad? are they as bad? the labour as bad as the tory party? because we saw what

happened with the tory party. they literally disintegrated before our very eyes. so for the great british debate this hour, i'm asking. well, not literally, obviously. that would be a bit odd, people will take that literally. are labour just as bad as the tories amid the ongoing donations row with laboun ongoing donations row with labour, it's now emerged the prime minister, sir keir starmer, received an additional £16,000 worth of clothes from a labour peer, lord alli. it's not that he didn't disclose it, it's just that it was attributed to something else. so it was the kind of thing that he's not being 100% clear as to what that money is being used for. so for the great british debate this yean the great british debate this year, i'm asking, are labour just as bad as the tories? well, joining me now, broadcaster and columnist lizzie cundy, also political commentator jonathan lis. i'll start with you, lizzie cundy. >> they're worse. no, they are worse, let me tell you. and i just i found out just now that keir starmer's speech was actually written by a guy called frankfurter, frankfurter, frankfurter, frankfurter, frankfurter ? are you joking? so frankfurter? are you joking? so is that a joke? no it's a joke.

frankfurter. now look , i'm frankfurter. now look, i'm sorry. i mean, the gifts , the sorry. i mean, the gifts, the gifts that just keep on coming. i don't think the tories ever had such a scandalous things as this. no, let me finish. because we have wardrobe gate. we. we have lady starmer, gate , have lady starmer, gate, spectacle gate, the arsenal box gate. now we've got the multi pound, you know, beautiful luxurious apartment gate. and he let his son there by the way to do his gcses. how kind of him. well he's doing a big tax raid on the private schools. i mean it's just one thing after the other isn't it. and the thing is it's the double standards because they just, you know, pointed their finger and screamed at boris johnson like mad, pretending they were the do gooders. and really, they're actually not the same. they're w0 i'se. woi'se. >> worse. >> well, jonathan, it's been like, what is it, >> well, jonathan, it's been like, what is it , ten, 11, 12 like, what is it, ten, 11, 12 weeks? it's not been very long at all. >> thousand pounds of free

gifts. >> all of this now unfolding . >> all of this now unfolding. >> all of this now unfolding. >> i don't think that you could say that what's happened is worse than, say , partygate or worse than, say, partygate or any of the multiple things that happened under the conservatives. that's to not say that there is no case to answer here. i think that what's happened here in this particular issue is you've got lots of things that are being put into a big pile and the media is finding new things and adding them to the pile. and some of those things will will, you know, will be worthy of criticism and worthy of scrutiny. and some of them are kind of non—stories. i happen to think that, you know, for example, the one about him doing the broadcast in december 2021 from lord alli house, that's a non—story. who cares? well, there was no lockdown. there was no lockdown happening right then. >> there might not have been. but he was telling people to stay at home in their houses and he had made it look as though it was his own. it was. i mean, come on, there's a little bit of what i feel, a level of deception there, because you've put pictures of your family around you, jonathan, you've got pictures of his son behind him.

>> he just dressed it up . >> he just dressed it up. >> he just dressed it up. >> as his tv broadcasts often happen from tv studios or sets or things that you know, i go on jeremy vine and people see a picture of you know, big ben behind us. that's not actually big ben. that's just a bit. >> but he doesn't have to do that. like, even if he's in an office and he doesn't need to show that he's somewhere where his pictures of his family are because the pictures of his family weren't there. so he specifically brought those things in there to give an impression of something. >> there's there might be any number of reasons why his house wasn't appropriate for broadcast. >> okay, but give me a reason why you'd put a picture of your son behind you in a room that wasn't your own when you were broadcasting live . broadcasting live. >> if you've got another way, in the same way that when nigella does her. no, no, no, no no, she has a set. no no no, she replicates her own kitchen at home. there are all kinds of it, but it's not a scandal, nana. it's not a scandal. >> so you think that that's just a replication of a set? his office, even though he's pretending to be in an office, which is why he's got a picture of his son there. and that's

perfectly reasonable. >> like, i don't i don't actually know. i don't know starmer very well. i met him like, twice. i don't know him. i don't know why he did it from lord alli house, but whatever the reason was, it's not a big story. what you're what you've got here is totally wrong. >> it's a huge story. >> it's a huge story. >> it's a huge story. >> i don't think it's a worry. >> i don't think it's a worry. >> sorry. let jonathan finish. i want to hear what he has to say. >> i think that there is an issue about donations and about gifts. and that issue is cross political. we had it plenty of times with the conservatives and more conservative mps took money in the last year than labour mps, and they took more money than labour did . than labour did. >> although keir starmer has taken the most so far of all of them of mps. >> and i think that there is, i think that there is an argument you with all these debates, it's very difficult actually, when you are sort of on the side of saying actually it's not so bad in some ways because it's much easier to say, you know, you're a plague on all your houses type thing. it's actually quite difficult to be the person saying, this isn't as terrible as you think it is, because politicians do get donations . politicians do get donations. they do get gifts. the balance is where you strike it. and i

think they've gone on the wrong side of that and they haven't handled it. the communication well also, let us just come back to the fact that he did not declare it as clothing, so he declared it as something else. >> now that that is not so what what you've what you've had here is they declared it as as something for the office. >> so i think because there's no there is no specific category of clothing in the, in the declaration. well, other things have been declared as clothing. right. okay, fine. but there's no i think i don't think there's like a specific box you tick that you can specify it, but other things have been declared. okay, fine. so clothing has been declared as so what's happened is they declared it and then they thought they looked again and said, is this as transparent or it's explicit as it could have been? they said, no. so they've declared it after they've declared it after they've been found out. so i'm not sure if it's after they've been found out. i don't know. >> it is after because we've only just discovered this. >> they discovered it because they declared it themselves. i don't know if journalists they had to they had to because it wasn't true, was it? >> what? they put it down. >> what? they put it down. >> i think that there are different interpretations of what counts as an office cost. and clearly it wasn't as explicit as it as it might have been, as though they've declared it. and i'm glad they have. i think that the thing with this,

provided you have full transparency so journalists can go over these records and ask questions, but it wasn't was it will it will it has been well, now it is. now they have to be. well i think that they if they if they're going to be more transparent than before then i welcome that. >> what you're missing the point. it's so hypocritical because he's they're saying he's this we know this man for the working class. he's taken from our pensioners cutting their winter fuel allowance. all of this. can you not just see how horrific it looks and all coming from this lord alli even sitting in lord hurley's home pretending that it's his. in lord hurley's home pretending that it's his . can you not see that it's his. can you not see how wrong this is, jonathan? and how wrong this is, jonathan? and how it looks? and look what he's doing. look what he's doing to our pensioners and he's favouring the unions over the over over them cutting the winter fuel allowance. then you can see how people are now looking at labour, thinking we don't trust them. he's a liar. he's pretending. and he's actually dropped. he's now dropped 45 points. he's actually minus in the ratings of 26. he's going below rishi. that's what

people think of your government that you support. >> well i don't think that i don't think there's any evidence that he's lied. i don't think that he's lied. i don't think that he's lied. i don't think that he could call him a liar. >> i told you that was his place. he had pictures of his son behind john aslef. did you not see it? i think it's a joke. >> television. television is a lot of. there's a lot of artists in television. lizzie, you know that perfectly well. people go on tv and it's not always, you know, their actual front room was his house. i don't think that's. i don't think that's the scandal of the century. i don't know what's going on. >> and do you not think lord alli what does he want in return? >> i don't know, that's a different question. i've seen no evidence. what's so funny, nana? i've seen no evidence. >> the pair of you. it's brilliant. carry on. >> i've seen no evidence that there is anything untoward in what lord alli was. you know. i'm sorry. >> there are questions about . >> there are questions about. >> there are questions about. >> he actually knew he was in lord alli house. he thought, i've got to pretend this is my own house. lord alli out some pictures of his son from school or whatever and put them in the background . that is a lie. he background. that is a lie. he tried to fool the british public. >> i don't think this is

watergate . i have to say there are. >> well, it's not watergate, is it? it's what should we call it? lord alli gate. lord alli gate. it's ali gate. i've seen alligators. >> i've seen labour seat evidence in lord alli. >> he was in ally pally. ally pally get it? >> ali gate. >> ali gate. >> have you finished it or do we have some more time? i don't think we've got time. >> we need to go to the news, frankly. but i could be all day. lizzie cundy and also jonathan lewis . you're with me on nana lewis. you're with me on nana akua. this is gb news. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. coming up, the pulse doctor renee hoenderkamp will be here to discuss the dangers of brazilian butt lifts. but first, let's get your latest news with sophia wenzler . news with sophia wenzler. >> nana. thank you. it's 432. i'm sophia wenzler with your headunes i'm sophia wenzler with your headlines on gb news terrorist group hezbollah has confirmed their leader has been killed in an airstrike on southern lebanon. in a tweet. this morning, the idf say hassan nasrallah will no longer be able to terrorise the world. the

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>> it's just coming up to 39 minutes after 4:00. welcome. this is dup news. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua now. a woman believed to have died after undergoing a non—surgical brazilian butt lift. now, the bbl is a treatment designed to make your buttocks bigger. why you would want to do that? i don't know, more rounded or lifted as some want. now it can be offered as a surgical or non—surgical procedure. however, two people have been arrested on suspicion of manslaughter following the death of a woman

believed to have undergone a non—surgical brazilian butt lift in this country. so i'm going to speak to gp and medical writer doctor renee hoenderkamp about the brazilian butt lift. now renee what is it and how does it work? because they're calling it non—surgical, but they're injecting something. how can that be non—surgical? >> so when we're just injecting things like fillers or fat that's transferred from somewhere else in the body into an area to enhance it, we call that non—surgical. surgical means you cut the skin, you open it up, you move muscles around. so that's why it's called non—surgical. but it is still invasive to a degree because it involves needles. the problem with, well, there are two problems with this. the first problems with this. the first problem is, is that the filler market and anything that involves products outside of botox is completely non—regulated. and more than ten years ago, we had the keogh report that said , you've got report that said, you've got more protection, consumer protection. if you buy a biro than have a filler injected into you.so than have a filler injected into you. so the people doing it don't have to be trained, don't

have to be insured, don't have to be cqc registered. so you've got cowboys doing it in their living room at the side of their house. and the place where this woman had it done was like a shed to the side of a house that was set up as an aesthetics clinic. and this procedure in itself is probably the riskiest that there is. so there's death rates for this procedure of between about one and 2301. in 6000. that's massively high for a for a beautician beauty product, as it were to happen. so what happens that kills people in this is normally a fat embolism. so fat is injected deeper than it should be. it goes into a muscle and then it spreads into the bloodstream. and once it spreads into the bloodstream, it can go to every single organ. or it can get into your pulmonary system and it can actually cause a pe. so from embolism and you die, you die instantly. if you get a pulmonary embolism in the lung, it's a fatal incident. now there's 28 people, young people from the uk who have gone to turkey for this procedure have

died. 28 and now we've got this woman and i think there's about four or more in the uk that have died. and i'd love to see the regulations around what this person was qualified as. i once had a clinic where i did fillers, i didn't do this procedure. i went on about 100 different courses. now i'm not exaggerating. i was fully insured. i kept myself up to date . i couldn't order my filler date. i couldn't order my filler for my pharmacist because they were that ethical. that you still had to be a prescriber to order them. but you don't have to be and there are places you can get them. so those are the problems with this and it's so sad. this was a mother of what, five children? yeah, five children in her 30s who felt so that she needed to change the shape of her body, that she went to someone who was probably cheaper than a recognised surgeon. and she's died. there's five children are now motherless, and i mean, it's horrible. >> it's a horrible story. i don't know why anyone would want to do this procedure, because even if you do get it done successfully , aren't there successfully, aren't there issues with it? you've got

filler in your behind so you can get migration. >> so the filler moves somewhere else. so then it gets lumpy . you else. so then it gets lumpy. you can get infection, which can lead to sepsis. can get infection, which can lead to sepsis . you know, you lead to sepsis. you know, you can get, what we call biofilm around that infection. so it's almost untreatable because antibiotics can't get to it . the antibiotics can't get to it. the complications are high and they're risky . i mean, the they're risky. i mean, the complications of filler can also involve infection and biofilms and migration. but you go somewhere, you know, where you can at least know that the person who's doing it is going to be as safe as possible. we need some regulation in this market so you can't administer botox if you haven't got a medical license and you prescribe it. there are some people who inject it and they get other people to do the prescribing. that is frowned upon by the gmc and the nursing council. it does happen, but botox is not dangerous like fillers are . fillers can fillers are. fillers can potentially kill you. really? >> so why is botox sort of safer? what is it about botox that makes it safe? >> so botox does paralyse

muscle. it does what it says on the tin. so the worst thing that can happen if somebody's not qualified puts it into the wrong place, or accidentally puts it in the wrong place, you can get a droopy eyelid or your eyelid can close, but it always wears off, so the side effects don't for last more than three months, so it's not going to kill you. botox is not going to kill you, and we use botox. >> it's injected somewhere wrong, like in your like in your vein or somewhere like that. >> it's not going to happen. yeah. it's used in the nhs on newborn babies through to the elderly every day. it's one of the safest drugs on the market. you do need someone who knows where the muscles are and where to put it, but fillers are not so safe because they can move, because they can cause embolisms. so it needs to be regulated. the government needs to step up instead of concentrating on people smoking outside, why don't they step up and regulate the filler market? >> what would you say to anyone who's contemplating having a bbl? >> okay, look, i'm not going to judge whether people should or shouldn't have this because i wouldn't want it, nor would you. but people want different things. i wouldn't want big lips, but some people do. i would say go to an accredited

surgeon, a plastic surgeon whose quality there are. there are regulations around this. you know, you can go to the british association of plastic surgeons, you know , which is called baps, you know, which is called baps, and get somebody who, you know, you're at least in the safest hands that you could possibly be. renee hoenderkamp. >> thank you very much. are you back on the saturday five? >> i'm on saturday five tonight. we've got a great show. we've got we're talking about labour obviously. turkey. i've got a great story about a young man being forcibly vaccinated later. so there's lots to talk about. so there's lots to talk about. so don't miss us. >> sunday five. stay tuned with renee hoenderkamp and the others. >> the others , the others. >> the others, the others. >> the others, the others. >> renee. thank you very much for joining us. that is doctor forjoining us. that is doctor renee hoenderkamp. she's a gp and a medical writer. well, you're with me. i'm nana akua. this is gb news. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. coming next in my great british i'm asking is stopping the boats

48 minutes after 4:00. welcome. if you've just tuned in, where have you been? you've missed some good bits, but we are live on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua and it's time now for the great british debate this hour. and i'm asking , debate this hour. and i'm asking, is stopping the boats racist? now the group unite the kingdom have held a rally today in central london calling on governments to prioritise brits and stop the boats. now these, in my view, are perfectly reasonable slogans to be asking of the government that represents us but to stand up to racism were also at the event as a counter—protest. so for the great british debate, this hour, i'm asking is stopping the boats racist? well, joining me now, broadcaster and columnist lizzie cundy, also political commentator jonathan cundy, also political commentatorjonathan liz cundy, also political commentator jonathan liz is calling for stopping the boats. is that racist? >> no, i don't know exactly who this group is. i know that there was another incident like this in july where this group was threatening to gather and stand

up threatening to gather and stand up to racism, said this was a far right organisation and something can be, you know , something can be, you know, something can be, you know, something can be a group can be far right based on more than just the slogans that, you know, using a slogan doesn't necessarily make you far right. and you can be far right without using a slogan. >> what in your definition is far right, >> well, in the policies that you if you are, if you are advocating racist policies, i suppose if you are calling for the deliberate targeting of specific minority groups that normally comes under the bracket of being far right, if stopping the boats look stopping something that look, we can have a conversation about stopping the boats. i think i just need to if having a conversation about whether it's racist, of course , wanting to stop the course, wanting to stop the boats in itself is not racist. the people who are getting on the boats want to stop the boats, so it can't possibly be racist. i don't, ijust don't want to necessarily comment on this particular group because i don't know enough about them. >> and that's okay because it's, obviously stand up to racism >> and also and also when you're saying prioritise brits , i think

saying prioritise brits, i think that that is often a dog whistle. and people who say prioritise brits, they don't really mean that sometimes. well, i do when i say it, i mean some people might mean it, but i'm saying that a lot of people, when they say prioritise british people, their idea of a british person might be different from my idea of a british person, for example. >> well, i just think people have paid into this country who live in this country and who are british should be first. >> that's not i think that sometimes i'm not saying if it's this group or not, but sometimes that's very racially coded when they talk about that. >> all right lizzie cundy jonathan, first order of any government is to look after its own people. and today people aren't feeling that they are getting looked after, i obviously it's not racist. no, no, it's very sad that they've got to you know, there have been 47 deaths this year alone crossing the boats. you know, it is awful . and under keir is awful. and under keir starmer's watch there's 11 i think it's 11,500 that have crossed. and it's treacherous and it has to stop. and he's saying he's going to smash the gangs. how is he going to smash

the gangs ? exactly. that's not the gangs? exactly. that's not going well. but people have every right to be worried. and just because they're worried doesn't make them far. right? right. >> this show is nothing without you and your views. let's welcome our great british voice. their opportunity to be on the show. tell us what they really think about the topics we're discussing. let's go to david baum in watford. david, stopping the boats. is it racist? no. >> i think what is worse is the fact that we have a government that promised to stop all of this going on. >> they stopped. >> they stopped. >> they stopped. >> they said they stopped the flights to rwanda. >> we. that won't make difference. >> it has made no difference. in fact, it got worse out there. >> we have a government that's cutting the pensions allowance for fuel. >> they're pulling money from every which way. yet no one can actually see them making any difference to this dreadful situation where people feel compelled to come to the uk because, hey, we can look after them, we've got to look after ourselves first and foremost, then we can look after other people. >> if the if the country was so

rich that we didn't have to cut pensions, fuel allowance, we didn't have them wanting to close private schools down, then . close private schools down, then. yes. but the moment we start arguing about it, we're all deemed racist. you can't stand up to the government without being called a racist, even though we're not. it's got to stop. and if he can't? and now he's talking about following italy's. oh, yes, send them to albania, not rwanda, albania or germany, whatever. germany do anything but what the tories promised beforehand because it doesn't. anything else doesn't work. we've got to stop them. and it can't stop the mafia, because that's what it is. >> okay, david baum, always a pleasure. thank you very much. that's david baum, he's our great british voice he's there in watford. lots of. you've been getting in touch, by the way. gbnews.com/yoursay catherine's talking about brazilian butlers. she said brazilian butlers warning to anyone thinking of doing this . don't, don't. i'm doing this. don't, don't. i'm with her on that one, andy m says gbbn and matt goodwin,

please, can we have a poll asking does the public trust starmer and his whole stinking government? well, we could do that actually, in the next hour, if you like. i think we might have a space for that one. and, let's see, there's one here from why is the alley closing taking precedent over the fact alley? the mate of assad has to pass downing street. there is a lot to say. i couldn't read the rest of that. yes. so lots of people getting in touch with their thoughts and comments and the final word to you very briefly, then, jonathan. >> well, look, i'm just saying we're only a small country. we're bursting at the seams and i can understand people who are fed up with the numbers that are coming in. and it's having a big effect on all our infrastructures, our getting a gp appointment from a dentist, everything else jonathan lists 15 seconds, the biggest, the largest proportion of immigration is from migrants. >> migrants leave completely legal migration. the government is actually wanting to come in. so i think that it's a distraction for the government to talk about illegal, irregular migration, the boats, that there are far bigger problems as well .

are far bigger problems as well. >> yeah, there are far bigger problems. but can the labour party sort that out? that's the question. this is jubilee news coming up in the next hour. uri geller will be here to discuss the ongoing situation in the middle east. first, your. weather. >> a brighter outlook with boxt solar sponsors of weather on gb. >> news . >> news. >> news. >> hello. welcome to your gb news weather update from the met office. we've got showers still persisting in the northwest today. sunny spells elsewhere before turning more unsettled from the west on sunday. so taking a look at the bigger picture, then we've got a ridge of high pressure extending across the uk. we do have this frontal system that's just going to bring a focus for some showers through the rest of the afternoon, so cloudy conditions across scotland with outbreaks of rain pushing through, especially across orkney. elsewhere, we'll see a few showers across northwestern parts of england, but on the whole a largely dry night to

come with some clear spells as well. it's not going to be as chilly as last night, but we could still see a touch of frost, especially in the countryside. but as we start a sunday morning, we've still got cloud and rain persisting across orkney through the early start of the day, but further across central parts. a chilly start across scotland, perhaps with a touch of frost, but some sunshine as well. across northern ireland we're already seeing the start of that low pressure system bringing increasing amounts of cloud here, but further across eastern parts of england . that's where parts of england. that's where we'll hold on to some bright weather to start the day, but it will turn increasingly cloudy as the day progresses, and that's all to do with an area of low pressure moving in from the west. so we have got a met office wind warning in force, giving some strong winds , giving some strong winds, especially across southwestern parts of england and into wales , parts of england and into wales, 50 possibly up to 60mph. and that's also going to bring in some increasing amounts of cloud and rain further towards the

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mine. it's theirs, and of course it's yours. we'll be debating, discussing and at times we will disagree, but no one will be cancelled . so joining me today, cancelled. so joining me today, broadcaster and author lizzie cundy, and also political commentatorjonathan lis. coming up after the confirmation that hezbollah leader hassan nasrallah has been killed after beirut airstrikes, i'll be asking, do you back israel? there's a pull up right now on x asking you that very question. then uri geller will be live from tel aviv with his thoughts, and he'll give us an update from his perspective coming up as well. difficult conversations. i'll be speaking to a former miss england, rahima mutemwiya. now she is a survivor from domestic abuse, which takes many forms. in her case, it was coercive control. she wants to educate people on how to spot this type of abuse. but before we get started, let's get your latest news with sophia wenzler . latest news with sophia wenzler. >> anna. thank you. good

afternoon. it'sjust >> anna. thank you. good afternoon. it's just gone 5:00. i'm sophia wenzler with your headlines. terrorist group hezbollah has confirmed their leader has been killed in airstrikes on southern lebanon. in a tweet this morning, the idf say hassan nasrallah will no longer be able to terrorise the world. the lebanese health ministry is reporting that at least six people have now been killed, and 91 wounded in the attack in central beirut. on your screens now are live pictures of where that missile attack happened . soldiers and attack happened. soldiers and aid workers have been taking part in rescue operations, looking for survivors and victims in the rubble. reuters news agency are currently reporting that iran's supreme leader, the ayatollah, has been transferred to a secure location inside his country with heightened security measures in place . now, it's been revealed place. now, it's been revealed that boris johnson considered raiding a dutch warehouse over a vaccination row with the eu at the time, the astrazeneca vaccine was at the heart of a

cross—channel row, with the former prime minister claiming the eu was slowing down the pace of the rollout. in the uk. according to an extract from his memoir, mrjohnson according to an extract from his memoir, mr johnson convened according to an extract from his memoir, mrjohnson convened a meeting of senior military officials back in march 2021 to discuss the plans, which even he admitted were, quote, nuts . now, admitted were, quote, nuts. now, barristers representing alleged victims of mohamed al fayed say there are now 60 survivors and they have credible evidence of abuse at fulham football club. the former harrods and fulham fc owner is accused of multiple sexual assaults after a bbc investigation was published last week. one of the alleged victims spoke exclusively to patrick christys on gb news last night. he had this look in his eyes and i'll never forget it. >> it was like a monstrous i'm going to get what i want from you. you know, i don't care how you. you know, i don't care how you feel. >> and i do think because it was in a public place. so to speak,

he he would have gone further had he could. >> i think he was worried somebody might come in, or i might have started screaming or something like that. so he made his exit pretty quickly, and i think he would have definitely raped me if he'd had half the chance, 100% to the us now, where at least 45 people have been killed as hurricane helen makes its way across the southeast of the united states, leaving millions without power. >> emergency crews are racing to rescue people trapped in flooded homes after the category four hurricane struck the coast of florida last night. hurricane struck the coast of florida last night . back in the florida last night. back in the uk , conservative party leader uk, conservative party leader rishi sunak has arrived at the party's conference in birmingham. he was seen making his way in with his wife and they were greeted by interim party chairman richard fuller. tory leadership candidate kemi badenoch was also seen arriving shortly before she was greeted

by a number of supporters and activists from her campaign as she arrived ahead of the event. officially opening tomorrow , the officially opening tomorrow, the king and queen are visiting hollywood to mark the 25th anniversary of the scottish parliament. being reconvened. the celebration showcased scottish music and culture and was attended by local heroes who have been nominated thanks to their contribution to local communities. his majesty spoke of the success of the devolved parliament from that day until this . this. >> through its work over a quarter of a century , this place quarter of a century, this place has not just thrived , but in has not just thrived, but in doing so has borne witness to the enduring relationship between the parliament, the crown and the people of scotland. >> meanwhile, the king has also been leading tributes for national treasure dame maggie smith after she passed away yesterday at the age of 89. in a statement, the king praised her

warmth and wit, while the prime minister remarked she was beloved by so many for her great talent. she leaves two sons and five loving grandchildren who were devastated by the loss of their extraordinary mother and grandmother. and finally, some breaking news in the last half houn breaking news in the last half hour. three people have been charged with criminal damage after soup was thrown at two van gogh paintings in the national gallery . three just stop oil gallery. three just stop oil activists targeted the artwork just an hour after two other activists were jailed for a similar protest. back in 2022. stephen simpson , philippa green stephen simpson, philippa green and mary somerville will appear at westminster magistrates court on monday. the national gallery says the two paintings targeted yesterday were removed for examination and were found not to have any damage. those are the latest gb news headlines. now it's back to nana for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news

alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . slash alerts. >> good afternoon. it's just coming up to seven minutes after 5:00. this is gb news. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua now coming up after the confirmation that hezbollah leader hassan nasrallah has been killed after beirut airstrikes. i'll be speaking to uri geller to get his thoughts on what's happening in israel. the interview today i'll be joined by a domestic abuse survivor, rahima mutemwiya , abuse survivor, rahima mutemwiya, in my difficult conversations. she was crowned miss england 2021 as a londoner and a domestic abuse survivor, she's using her platform to champion awareness of abusive behaviours and of course, healthy relationships. then, for the great british debate this year, i'm asking were the just stop oil activists rights to receive jail time just stop oil are of

course at it again . they've course at it again. they've targeted a van gogh sunflower painting, throwing more soup. three climate activists targeted the artwork just an hour after two other activists were jailed for a similar protest. back in 2022. so what do you think? for the great british debate i'm asking were the just stop oil activists right to receive jail time? and of course, at the end i've got my quick fire quiz. i test the panel on some of the stories that caught their eye. this week. as ever, send me your thoughts, post your comments gbnews.com/yoursay . so the big gbnews.com/yoursay. so the big story today hezbollah have confirmed their leader, hassan nasrallah , was killed by the nasrallah, was killed by the israeli defence force in airstrikes in beirut last night. israel launched targeted attacks to the lebanese capital throughout yesterday , killing throughout yesterday, killing six and wounding 91. now this is a major provocation to hezbollah's backers. iran, who have pledged to support resistance against israel's what

they call wicked regime. is this they call wicked regime. is this the start of all out war in the middle east? well, joining me now , mystifier and performer uri now, mystifier and performer uri geller, to find out what his thoughts are. uri, thank you for joining me. to good see you safe. what's on your mind? >> thank you. >> thank you. >> nana. >> nana. >> by the way, what's on my mind? just about an hour ago, a ballistic missile was flying from yemen to explode in tel aviv. >> thank god we shot it down like. >> now, look, nana this morning, like you just said, it was confirmed that we succeeded in killing hassan nasrallah . killing hassan nasrallah. >> we wiped him off the face of the earth. and you know what i say? thanks, god. thanks, god. this evil man, this tyrant, this anti—semite, this mass murderer is no more. >> let me tell your viewers a thing or two about this creature . thing or two about this creature. you might not know this, and it's important to understand. >> hassan nasrallah was a

hitler. he was a saddam hussein, and he was a bin laden. hitler. he was a saddam hussein, and he was a bin laden . he and he was a bin laden. he called for israel's destruction and he tried to achieve it. he also ordered terrorist attacks against jews for decades, not just in israel, but also around the world. in cyprus , in india, the world. in cyprus, in india, in thailand, in argentina. >> and by the way, he killed a lot of christians . lot of christians. >> he killed sunnis. now, hassan nasrallah did not just have blood on his hands. he was soaked in blood from head to toe. now under his command , toe. now under his command, hezbollah began attacking israel. just one day after the 7th of october attacks. do you know hezbollah has fired more than listen to this? >> 8000 rockets, 8000 rockets since then at israel. >> now i have to show you this. >> now i have to show you this. >> this is important. >> this is important. >> if you think it is only

israel, which was against him. let me tell you a fact . most of let me tell you a fact. most of the people of lebanon were against him . hassan nasrallah against him. hassan nasrallah brought lebanon to ruin. and if thatis brought lebanon to ruin. and if that is not enough , nasrallah that is not enough, nasrallah sent thousands of his fighters to syria to help bashar assad slaughter syrians in the civil war there. >> now, just a few days ago , >> now, just a few days ago, nasrallah gave a speech where he threatened israel again and promised to punish it for the pager attack. now i have to show you something. look at this photograph. this is the moment that netanyahu says bye bye to nasrallah from his new york hotel room, whether you believe it or not. look at this picture once more. look, nana israel has other ideas. and last night we

dropped a two and a half ton bunker busting bomb on him. and now nasrallah no longer exists. israel has cut one of the heads of the snake. hezbollah is in a disarray , complete disarray. and disarray, complete disarray. and this sends a message to all of israel's enemies , including israel's enemies, including iran. yes iran. iran. if you attack us, we will hit back even harder. look, nana, we have to. because if we want to go on living in peace, we have no other choice. i love you all from the holy land in israel. sending you lots of positive energy and kisses. >> thank you very much. he's there in tel aviv. those were uri geller's thoughts. that's how he feels about the war. of course, we don't want lots of people to die. and there were, i think, 91 others who were injured in that that attack. but then, unfortunately, the leader for hezbollah was in a

underneath a residential area. so that that makes things very difficult. well joining me now, my panel, broadcaster and columnist lizzie cundy and also political commentator jonathan lizzie, i'll come to you, jonathan, liz first. so do you feel that we're at the brink of world war? a big world war in the middle east. >> i mean, i certainly hope not, i don't think that this has the makings of a global conflict. and obviously, the west will do everything it to can contain it. and that will also involve putting pressure on israel. you know, i read a report today that biden is privately furious with netanyahu about what's happening. he thinks that there is a major escalation happening. and what i find strange about what's happened in washington is that there's been a kind of sense of hand—wringing from the white house, but actually the white house, but actually the white house, but actually the white house has a lot more power than it lets on, because it could, you know. biden could tell netanyahu to deescalate this because israel depends on the united states politically, economically , militarily in many economically, militarily in many ways. and they're not doing that

because obviously, they obviously want israel to be secure. and that's fine. but if israel does, you know , take this israel does, you know, take this and obviously the other parties are involved as well. if there is an escalation that becomes everyone's business, not just israel's business. >> do you genuinely believe that joe biden knows what's going on? yeah. i'm sorry. >> i think that , yeah, i do, i >> i think that, yeah, i do, i do, i do, and there are people and there are a lot of people around him as well. you know what's going on. but because in america, i think that netanyahu has humiliated biden, so many times, biden and blinken as well, their secretary of state. >> i don't think biden needs any help with that. lizzie cundy, i have to disagree with you. >> i don't think biden knows what at all is going on. he doesn't know left from right, sadly, and that was has made me go cold listening to yuri there, knowing that hezbollah had sent over 8000 rockets to israel . and over 8000 rockets to israel. and as i said previously, israel has as i said previously, israel has a right to defend themselves. and we have to remember hezbollah are terrorists. and sadly, there is an endless

amount of people that want to feel this deceased leader's shoes. that is the scary thing. and they and, you know, if you don't agree with hezbollah, they make your life a total misery. they're full of hatred. and, you know, as you know, israel have no choice but to defend themselves . themselves. >> and obviously, they want the people in the north to be able to return to their properties as these people have been displaced for. what is it, 6 or 8 months now? it's over 60,000 people who've had to move away from northern israel. >> yeah. and, and there are also a lot of people in southern lebanon who've had to flee as well. you know, there is currently a major refugee crisis, and this is a country where a huge proportion of the population are already refugees. you have, i think, over a million syrian refugees in lebanon. and you also have palestinians who've been there since 1948. so this is a huge this and we talk about refugees in this country. you know, there's nothing proportionately to what lebanon and jordan. >> but the difference is that they're not being housed in hotels and all that stuff. well, i mean, they're fending for themselves and living as well.

>> yeah. i mean, they're certainly not living in good conditions. i think they should be living in better conditions. but the point is that there are people now hundreds of thousands of people being internally displaced, terrified for their lives going further north. people in beirut who have who might be, who might have, who have no truck whatsoever with hezbollah and who now fear for their lives. >> so in a way, israel are right to then get rid of leaders who create that environment for their people. >> surely israel is not going to remove, as i said before, you can take out individuals, but the gap will be filled. there's a vacuum. it will be filled. they're not going to. they can't impose a regime change, but it might teach them a lesson . might teach them a lesson. >> sadly, i spoke to my friend thatis >> sadly, i spoke to my friend that is from lebanon and sadly it's been used as a battlefield. it is so frightening. and as i say, this is a world at war and we have to now think with calm, sensible heads because the last thing we want is another war, because it will affect every one of us. don't think it won't affect us here, because it will. >> well, what did you think that benjamin netanyahu should do, though? did he do the right thing in your view? >> i do think he did the right thing because he has to defend

his country. and as i said, these are terrorists who won't stop and want the death of every jew. we've heard what they're about. we know what they're about. >> what about jonathan's point ? >> what about jonathan's point? that it creates a vacuum? >> i understand what look, no one wants war, but we didn't want. and sadly, what happened on the 7th of october? there were consequences. and israel had to defend themselves. and sadly, behind hezbollah, we have iran. and then we have russia. it's very frightening times. but as i said, calm heads and we really need to think no one wants a war and no one wants to see loss of life. >> that's exactly the point. that's why, as i said before, that's why we need a ceasefire. and that's why the west are the, you know, the uk, the, you know, the eu, the us need to sort of bnng the eu, the us need to sort of bring the parties to the table. you can you can have, as you've heard, what yuri said, 8000 rockets have been at israel from hezbollah. >> what are they just supposed to let it happen and not do anything? well, obviously these are they have to do something. >> obviously, the purpose of a ceasefire is that both sides will ceasefire, so both sides

will ceasefire, so both sides will stop firing rockets at the other side. the only solution is going to be diplomatic. what's hezbollah's response going to be from what's happened? >> what do you think? >> what do you think? >> because, you know, right now they're probably not feeling very positively towards israel. but the purpose of but it's their own fault. >> but they've just their own doing. >> we need to talk about what happens next. i think everyone agrees that the only solution to this long term will be diplomatic. well, i'm afraid i think israel is helping at all with the situation, which worries me, which obviously it should be. then waging permanent war with its neighbours is not going to guarantee it. >> all right, all right. jonathan, liz, lizzie cundy, thank you very much. and david lammy, maybe lord alli can buy him some trainers, new ones or some new shoes perhaps. but listen as . stay tuned. loads listen as. stay tuned. loads more still to come. coming up to 18 minutes after 5:00, my panellist lizzie cundy and jonathan lewis. they're right. next it's time for difficult conversations and joining me domestic abuse survivor rahima mutemwiya. she's to here give her story. stay

good afternoon. 21 minutes after 5:00, this is gb news. we're live on tv , online and on live on tv, online and on digital radio. if you've just tuned in, where have you been? it's fine though. you've just about 40 minutes left, so you haven't missed the entire thing. but as the conservative party conference kicks off tomorrow, do not miss camilla tominey her show at 930 on sunday morning, where tom harwood will be joined by all of the tory leadership candidates. so you don't want to miss that. 930 that's tomorrow morning here on gb news. but now it's morning here on gb news. but now wsfime morning here on gb news. but now it's time for this week's difficult conversations. rehema matthew laza she was crowned miss england in 2021 and is a londoner and a domestic abuse survivor who has used her platform to champion awareness of abusive behaviours and, of course, healthy relationships. as a proud ambassador for solace, a charity supporting domestic abuse survivors, rahima draws on her own painful experiences to educate young people on the importance of

recognising abuse and beyond her achievements in beauty pageants. himars advocacy has been deeply personal, and her escape from an abusive relationship inspired her to enter the miss england competition and use her newfound voice to promote awareness of domestic abuse. well, i'm very pleased to say that mohamed mutemwiya joins me now. rehema, thank you very much for joining me. >> hello. thank you for having me. >> i'm going to have that week next. yes. >> i'll give you all the details. don't worry about it. do they do blonde. blonde? >> red. >> red. >> black? whatever you want. i think you should . think you should. >> twins. look fabulous. rahma. really lovely to see you . really really lovely to see you. really good to talk to you. so can we talk about your story? because you're beautiful. she's beautiful. she looks good. holac. which is amazing, right? so what people would think that somebody like you would be so confident that they would never be involved in, in a relationship that would initiate any sort of illicit, any sort of domestic abuse. and i know in your case, it was coercive control. talk to me about how you found yourself in this place

and how it manifested itself. >> oh my gosh. so i think this was an early relationship. i was at university studying for a genetics degree, madly in love, met a man that i thought was my ultimate dream and turned out to really be an absolute nightmare. >> i think i never really had the voice to term for what abuse was. >> we know of domestic violence, but really coercive control, stalking, harassment, emotional abuse. >> there's so many different forms of abuse and i didn't know what that was. >> so i found myself seven years ago in a relationship for two years, >> that really started absolutely beautifully. >> but within after about six months, it was just up and down abuse. you know, there was physical intimidation. eventually i got the strength to leave . infidelity. just leave. infidelity. just everything, you name it. i left her after about two years and then i was stalked and harassed and just told i was not allowed to leave, that essentially i was his. so it was further two years of being followed on trains. it was just absolutely horrendous. but it got me to this place where i was able to sort of recognise it for what it was and then do something about it. >> must have been very, very frightening, horrendous, horrendous. >> i was about 22, 23 and i didn't really know what this was. you know, the media doesn't

really paint the picture of what domestic abuse is, you know, outside of the physical. >> i've heard of family members in the past, family, friends, people that we know of having gone through abusive relationships. but it's always been physical. and so when it came to the idea of, you know, i'm going through this experience, i can't really put a term and a name to it. what exactly is this, but it happened. and i really i feel like i've become stronger from it. >> so talk to me about the moments that were there that suddenly you started to think, hang on a minute. this doesn't sort of feel right. what kind of things happened? how did it manifest itself? >> yeah, it was definitely the emotional abuse, the highs and the lows. >> it was really one moment. it's just love bombing. i don't know if you heard the term is quite popular right now. lots of love, lots of affection. and then the next minute there's like tension and then violent , like tension and then violent, angry outbursts. i've been called all names under the sun. >> i will never repeat on tv. please don't. >> i will not, but just. it's the ups and the downs and really not having any stability that you really start to notice that there's something wrong here, but you can't put a term to it. >> what did that do to you?

>> what did that do to you? >> completely messed up my psyche. it's very, very difficult when you can't quite understand. this is someone that's meant to love you. you know, a relationship should be stable, peaceful , loving, but stable, peaceful, loving, but the same person that loves you is also the same person that huns is also the same person that hurts you the most. and so it's that cognitive dissonance that you have between, well, you say you have between, well, you say you love me, but you also cause me a lot of pain because you can kind of lose your mind there, can't you? >> because you're you're i mean, i know what love is. i know i have beautiful children, and thankfully that has taught me lots of things, including how to deal with men, because i had a young boy and i'd been to a girls school, i wasn't that, you know, i didn't. i had this delusion that this was a fantasy. you had someone to love and this and then and then i obviously went out with people and realised, oh, that's a bit of a delusion. exactly. do you think that your upbringing in a sort of like a all girls school, do you think that had something to do with your sort of lack of, you know, sort of verbal intimacy with men kind of thing and knowing where the boundaries are? do you know what i mean? >> actually, i was talking about this the other day. i think there is i actually have quite an issue with single sex schools, really. i think it's

not healthy in the sense of when you get out into the world, you need to be able to mingle with people from all kinds of backgrounds. men and women need to have that foundation of how can we interact with each other. if you. i was in secondary school single sex from year seven up until university, so i never really had that interaction outside of the local person around me, my neighbours, for me to understand the dynamics of a male and a female relationship. and so i wouldn't say it contributed entirely, but there could be something to think about as to could, if that contributed to sort of like the lack of understanding , because lack of understanding, because it's always good when you're around something you learn, you learn being around something. >> so if it's not there, then you might not understand the nuances and behaviours of men . nuances and behaviours of men. so, so from there you realise that you were in a how did you get out? because those relationships are often very, very difficult to escape. >> yeah , it took me so long to leave. >> i was leaving every month and any time i left he would turn up at my door and send me flowers and shower me. and then the confusion started again. and so i think it took me, i'd say,

about a year to leave completely from when the moment i sort of realised something was wrong here. it was 12 months later that i went home and it was once i got cheated on multiple times i got cheated on multiple times i thought i have to have some self—respect. >> why would somebody cheat on you? you're so like, what was he looking for? that isn't good enough ? enough? >> probably still looking for it, i don't know. >> oh my god . really? >> oh my god. really? >> oh my god. really? >> yeah, well, but it was from that. once i finally gathered the strength to realise i've lost my sense of self, i feel like i've lost my mind. i fell into depression, i was, i had anxiety, i had a suicide attempt anxiety, i had a suicide attempt a few months prior, and at that point i thought i cannot stay with you. >> i have to go and thank goodness you did go. you're here now and talking to people about what to look out for. so what should the main things? okay, so we've talked about the love bombing. well those ones, if you're aware of the sort of narcissistic behaviour, you know, someone sends you loads of stuff and is all over you and a bit on you, then you think, hang on a minute, what's going on here? but that can also be the start of a healthy relationship. so it's very difficult to work out the difference. why would

you say the line is between that and sort of narcissist and weirdo? >> so i don't want to label anyone, but i feel very much that my partner was the narcissist. but i think when it comes to healthy relationships, there's a pacing that is sort of it gives you time to learn and grow with each other in abusive relationships. it's quite quick. within a month, someone might love you. within two weeks, they might say, i love you. they might say, i love you. they might take you away a month from now to the best. it's very intense and it doesn't give you a moment to sort of understand what is happening. and i've also noficed what is happening. and i've also noticed they have poor boundaries. the noticed they have poor boundanes.theidea noticed they have poor boundaries. the idea of telling an abusive person, no, it's a problem. and so i think it's about really garnering the understanding of what feels because also paint pay attention to your intuition, because i felt that there was something wrong within the first few weeks. but i didn't listen to myself sort of being aware of this feels a bit too much, and if it feels like it's too much, take a second. and if that person doesn't respect the idea of you taking a moment to sort of you taking a moment to sort of understand and, you know, take things at a slower pace, that might be an issue.

>> it could be an issue indeed. yeah. wow. so now i know that there's stuff coming on that people need to be looking out for. you'll be doing some things with itv. we can't talk about those yet . but you're also those yet. but you're also you're also talking about this as well. so talk to me about some of the work that you do to educate others on what abusive relationships look like. sure, sure. >> so for the last four years i've been involved in various different charities. i'm a solace women's aid ambassador in london, and i think they do absolutely amazing work to help women. i just felt like i'd been given a platform as a former miss england, to use it for more than just wearing a crown. i had just left the relationship. i wanted to find myself. we'd passed the pandemic and i just i needed to do something outside of me, find a purpose. so for the last few years, i've been working with solace, women's aid and just sharing my experience, really talking about what abuse is , because i think a lot of is, because i think a lot of people keep it behind closed doors. it's almost a very taboo, you know, shameful subject to talk about. but many, many women, 1 in 3 women, are going to go through some form of abuse in their lifetime. and so if we have the discussions so me speaking about it, going into schools, talking about healthy

relationships , sharing my relationships, sharing my experience, really garnering the attention that i think it deserves, that's where i think a lot of change will come from there. >> right? so if people want to follow you on your socials, do you have social media where they can? yes. >> oh, mutemwiya on everything. yeah. just everything. all the work that i'll be doing, sharing more about my platform and the amazing work that solace do. >> oh well thank you rahima, it's really good to talk to you. i love that i'm going to have that one. i'll send you the details. i'm joking. you know i will be looking just like that, but it probably won't look the same as it does on me that it doesn't her. but i can give it a go. no, you look fabulous, raheem. thank you very much. she's an ambassador for solace. really fascinating young lady. good luck. thank you so much . good luck. thank you so much. right. it'sjust good luck. thank you so much. right. it's just gone 5:30. you're with me. i'm nana akua on gb news. we're live on tv, onune gb news. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. still to come, the great british debate this hour and i'm asking, were the just stop oil activists right to receive jail time? you'll hear the thoughts of my panel commentator and broadcaster lizzie cundy, also political commentator jonathan lewis. but first, let's get your latest news with saphir .

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hour i'm asking, were the just stop oil activists right to receive jail time now? just stop oil have targeted van gogh's sunflower paintings again . three sunflower paintings again. three climate activists who have now been charged targeted the artwork just an hour after two other activists were jailed for a similar protest in october 2022. so the great british debate this hour, i'm focusing on those that have already , the on those that have already, the ones that have been in prison and i'm asking were the just stop oil activists right to receive jail time? all right, let's get the thoughts of my panel let's get the thoughts of my panel, broadcaster and columnist lizzie cundy, also political commentator jonathan, liz, lizzie cundy. they've i think it was that phoebe one with the hair when she was on jacob rees—mogg's show, and that was a great classic. that was a classic clip, wasn't it? >> yeah, it's two right. they should be put in prison. i think it's disgraceful what they have done and how they have actually destroyed people's lives, my friend got caught up when just stop oil were on the motorway. she was trying to get to

hospital for her daughter. it was absolute hell. and the worry. and you know what? they they've stopped people's funerals, stopped people getting to hospital appointments. and now look at them trying to destroy our masterpieces. do you remember the two elderly ladies that had a chisel trying to get the magna carta? there's no stopping them. and they need to be stopped. and you know what? i've interviewed them before, and they actually don't know what they're protesting about. when you actually you say , give when you actually you say, give me some meat on the bones. they know they're vegetarian . most of know they're vegetarian. most of them, they don't know what they're protesting about . and they're protesting about. and they've all been on, you know, on holidays, on planes , on on holidays, on planes, on private jets. and, you know, it's so hypocritical. but they ruin people's lives. they need to be stopped. yes, they should be. >> do you think so? >> do you think so? >> yes . >> yes. >> yes. >> now, jonathan, liz, do you think that those two who have gone to jail, were they right to have been sentenced in that way, in your view, was that the right action? >> no. absolutely not. and look, they they they haven't ruined anyone's life. they weren't protesting on the motorway .

protesting on the motorway. that's not what they were sentenced for. and they were sentenced for. and they were sentenced for. and they were sentenced for criminal damage. and this is a grossly disproportionate offence. look, i did not like this protest one bit. i'm not going to say that people should attack works of art. i. art is my favourite thing in the world. i love it. i was horrified when it happened actually, because i thought let people enjoy art. this is philistinism. and then i saw a clip that phoebe did and i thought it was a really compelling account of a defence of the actions. you know, when she goes through it saying, we knew there was not going to be any damage because we knew that there was going to be glass on it. we knew that it was ridiculous. we weren't saying that people should be doing this as a matter of course, but we want to get people talking about it, which obviously we that did happen that did work and that she, you know, they they're prepared to, suffer for their cause. and she said that she was prepared to, to go to prison. i think that it was grossly disproportionate. when you look at how people people go to jail for rape for less time than they

were just sentenced to prison. >> but that doesn't mean that they shouldn't go to jail. i mean, they should sort out the rules. they didn't. >> they didn't even damage the painting. >> nana sadly, i don't know. sorry. that's not the point though, is it really? the point is that actually it's a i think it's a loads of other things as well. it's not just that, it's the whole mindset of it. >> i don't believe a word she says. what if she did destroy that masterpiece? then you can't go back. you can't say, oh, i knew it had a glass frame and it would be safe. they don't care. well, they did care. they don't care. they don't know. they didn't. >> it had to rescue the day before. >> they had to. it had to be then taken. you're telling me those two elderly women weren't going to when they were going through with the chisel, not knowing about them? no, but i'm telling you, the whole group, the just stop oil. that's why people are so, you know, actually agree with me that they should be put in jail. and you might think, oh, no, it doesn't matter. let them go. they've got a great cause. well, actually, half of them don't know what they're actually protesting about. and they could have very well have harmed that masterpiece, which is unforgivable . jonathan, masterpiece, which is unforgivable .jonathan, i don't unforgivable. jonathan, i don't know how you can just sit there

and stick up for them. >> well , i and stick up for them. >> well, i thought i actually presented quite a nuanced perspective, lizzie, where i said at first i didn't like the protest, and i love art, and i was horrified. >> but are you saying they didn't hurt it? >> so actually, no. >> so actually, no. >> because you're saying, oh, but they didn't hurt it. >> but what if they did let jonathan come back to that? they haven't. they didn't they didn't though. >> yeah, but they say all kinds of things. what what have they done? what if they what if they sort of, you know, taken a sledgehammer to other. well, they didn't do that. >> well, there's a chance let's stick with what they actually let's stick with what they actually did. >> you know, you're not you can't be you can't be in prison for something that you might have thought about. >> but that's not why they're in prison. they're in prison for what they actually did. >> exactly. and so let's stick with that. and i thought this is i think it's completely disproportionate. i think that you can make an argument that if you can make an argument that if you cause, say, £10,000 of damage to the frame, which is what happened then that for example, might be something that you would be asked to pay back that would that could be a reasonable punishment. for example . and i don't support example. and i don't support people attacking works of art as part of political protest, even though there is a very, very long history of people attacking works of art, such as when the

suffragette attacked the rokeby venus in over 100 years ago, and you know that has now become sort of part of the art canon as well , that there was an there well, that there was an there was an exhibition in the national gallery or the tate gallery about that looked at iconoclasm and attacked some works of art. so it's almost like becomes absorbed into the history of art itself when these new things happen again. that's not a defence. and there are all kinds of political causes, and i think they're appropriate means of protest and inappropriate means of protest, of protest and inappropriate means of protest , they obviously means of protest, they obviously feel desperate about what's happening, but climate change needs to be urgent. action done. >> yeah, but the calls that they are protesting for is already agreed. so, you know , i don't i agreed. so, you know, i don't i don't i don't believe in all the i believe that the climate is changing. i think it will naturally. i think it's negligible how much man has influence on this. but you know, i do support looking after the planet. so most people support the ultimate goal of looking after the planet, which is ultimately where they're going with this. so there isn't really an argument or a need for these

people. >> no there isn't. and look, we all look, i believe in freedom of speech, but with responsibility. this isn't responsible. and you can say, jonathan, oh, it's just a thought . it isn't jonathan, oh, it's just a thought. it isn't just a thought. it isn't just a thought. it isn't just a thought. i think their actions are absolutely disgraceful. i mean, what if they did? and i know you're saying, oh, what if. well, you could say that if someone is carrying a gun and they didn't stick with what they actually did, then. yeah, but there was a glass covering. the fact the fact is they should not be doing this. this is one of our finest pieces of art. a masterpiece. yeah, but they didn't damage it. they they damaged the frame. >> i'm not defending them. i'm just saying. >> i'm saying. i'm saying they should not be doing this and this intent and all which they have been doing in their campaign is actually infuriating and affecting people's lives. i agree with you. >> so are you pleased they went to prison? yes. and jonathan, are you pleased they went? no. absolutely not. >> why not? well, because it's not appropriate. and look, we have.is not appropriate. and look, we have. is it not appropriate? you have. is it not appropriate? you have people who commit rapes and hate crimes who don't go to prison. >> that's wrong . that doesn't >> that's wrong. that doesn't mean that's not going to solve. >> it's not going to solve

anything. >> yeah, but that's wrong. >> yeah, but that's wrong. >> i think that we need to we need to have a bigger conversation anyway about why we're imprisoning people and what prison is meant to do. i don't think that it serves anyone to send these people to prison . it just makes them prison. it just makes them masters of anything. >> it doesn't make them masters. they like to think that they're masters because you know what they are. they're arrogant. they're narcissists. they think they are doing no wrong. it's affecting people's lives. >> what if what if you were to make them pay for the £10,000 worth of damage that they caused for the frame? well actually, i think they should do that as well. >> and i think their parents should be brought into i think their parents have a lot to answer for because some of them are so young. it's like they, you know, their parents like or do whatever, you know, you saw one of their parents actually saying, oh, well , now one of their parents actually saying, oh, well, now i'm so upset. they're, you know, going to jail. they won't make freddie's wedding. it was the graduation. and i was like, hold on a minute. do you know how many weddings they've stopped by being in the middle of the motorway, going to the hospital? they didn't stop any wedding at the national gallery. okay, well , the national gallery. okay, well, listen, the same group. >> you don't know that there's something could have been booked. and then they got in the

way. but, yeah, i do find it quite ironic that the mum of one of the protesters. i don't think it was that specific one, but she was complaining that, oh no, she was complaining that, oh no, she had to miss her graduation. and i'm thinking, well, think about the people on the m25 who missed funerals and everything else. it's amazing. these people can't sort of see beyond their own thing. but listen, coming up, my quick quiz, i'm going to my panel on some the stories that caught their eye this week.

good afternoon. welcome up next it's the saturday five, but right now it's time for my quick fire quiz. the part of the show where i test my panel on some of the other stories that are hitting the headlines right now. joining me, broadcast columnist lizzie cundy. your buzzer please, lizzie . and also please, lizzie. and also political commentator jonathan list your buzzer please. lovely. and please play along at home right . just to give you the right. just to give you the rules, jonathan, do not buzz in until i've finished the question. otherwise, you'd just

be disqualified. i also have an ejector button here. right? question one an ultra rare experimental £0.25 coin sold at auction. this week. but what was the date on the coin? was it a 1925? was it b 1981 or was it c 1985? lizzie cundy i'm going for a 1925. possibly. jonathan lizzie 1985. okay. you're saying c 1985. let's have a look. the answer is 1981, which of course was b, so neither of them got it right . now the coin was b, so neither of them got it right. now the coin is was b, so neither of them got it right . now the coin is thought right. now the coin is thought to have been made by the royal mint craftsmen before the £0.20 denomination was released into circulation, and it sold for £1,700. >> oh, i'm going in my old piggy bank. >> let's see what you've got. you're not that old, lizzie. you want to live? or maybe you were when that coin was made . when that coin was made. >> if only i love you, my god. right

>> ha ha ha! >> ha ha ha! >> question two. sir keir starmer, during his first labour party conference speech, made a huge blunder whilst discussing the conflict between israel and iran . but the conflict between israel and iran. but what did he the conflict between israel and iran . but what did he say? oh, iran. but what did he say? oh, lizzie cundy . lizzie cundy. >> so suggest the hostages release . release. >> sausages released the release. the release sausages. >> right , let's release. the release sausages. >> right, let's find out. have listen. >> i call again for an immediate ceasefire in gaza. >> the return of the sausages, the hostages . the hostages. >> no points. i think i know exactly the return of the sausage. >> you know what? >> you know what? >> now released. the heinz baked beans are doing these tins with him on for sausages. oh, goodness. >> i mean, look, it's a very serious situation, so we don't really like to laugh at the actual issue itself, but keir starmer, that was a big, big banger of a blunder, right? true or false? question three a woman from bournemouth was fined £500 for flytipping after leaving a cabinet outside her home for passers—by to take jonathan. it's true, it's true, it is true. okay let's see if you're

right. it is true. guess the woman left the medium sized ikea cabinet, which had stored children's toys in her son's room and is currently in dispute with the local council. oh, right. question four i think this one is closest answer wins all right. sad news yesterday as dame maggie smith star of the harry potter films and downton abbey, died at the age of 89. but how many films and tv shows did she star in? lizzie cundy it's a guess 44. 44. >> i say 70. 79. >> 79. it's quite a few each yeah >> 79. it's quite a few each year. let's have a look at your right. oh, it's 60. so actually, jonathan anneliese wins by one point. oh, hang on, what did you say? 44. oh. 44. no, no, i thought you said 40. she wins. you do win, lizzie. sorry. >> thank you very much. i thought i was wrong. >> was it over 60? over 60. that might be that. might that might take it. i'm answer. >> yeah, it might do. but it didn't, though , did it? so you didn't, though, did it? so you haven't won that one. right. >> so what a fine, amazing actress. oh, her comic genius.

>> well, i can't wait to see it's two one to lizzie so far. i can't wait to hear the results of our poll as well, to find out what people are thinking . but what people are thinking. but the final question 60. she oh, hang on. she. okay, so this is. oh, yes . sorry. she actually oh, yes. sorry. she actually performed 60 films in the 60 films. the television series in her career , notably harry potter her career, notably harry potter and downton abbey. right. final question. question five. multiple choice. what will. what will i'm a celebrity contestant be able to do this year, as they have not been able to do before ? have not been able to do before? lizzie cundy , chat to their lizzie cundy, chat to their loved ones at home i guess. jonathan, especially if you've got an answer. >> i don't have an answer. come on.send >> i don't have an answer. come on. send send messages back home. i'd say the same thing. no. >> they'll be allowed to take a ozempic injections. oh, which kind of defeats the point of the whole show. the whole show is. yeah, the whole show is to make getting food for the camp . why? getting food for the camp. why? you won't be hungry. they won't be hungry. >> lizzie. that's so silly. and you lose weight anyway. you're

in the jungle. i've had so many friends in it, and they come back like a little stick. oh, dean back like a little stick. oh, dear. that's silly. that doesn't make sense. >> lizzie, can i just say that? unfortunately, i thought you were going to get that right. but yes, i'm a celebrity. stars will be allowed to take the controversial ozempic exemption injections in camp. the diabetes jab, which is also used for off label for weight loss, will be given off camera to any celeb with a prescription on the show, contestants have found the eating challenge is hard to swallow for 24 years, but they would be a bit silly with this. what's the point of it? that's the point. i don't think they've got that right. >> i'm going to find out because my son's actually working on the show out in australia, so i'm going to find that out. all right lizzie. >> well, you are the victor for today's quiz. well done. commiserations, jonathan. right. well, listen for today's show, i've been asking, do you back israel? and according to our twitter poll, 86% of you say yes, 14% of you say no. i've got to say a huge thank you to my panel to say a huge thank you to my panel. broadcaster and columnist lizzie cundy. that's not you, lizzie. you're not. that's not

lizzie. you're not. that's not lizzie. lizzie cundy and also political commentator jonathan lewis for joining me. political commentator jonathan lewis forjoining me. and as a huge thank you to you for your company. i'll be back tomorrow. same time, same place. saturday five is next. do not go anywhere. see you tomorrow . anywhere. see you tomorrow. >> looks like things are heating up. boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news. >> hello. welcome to your gb news weather update from the met office. we've got showers still persisting in the northwest today. sunny spells elsewhere before turning more unsettled from the west on sunday. so, taking a look at the bigger picture, then we've got a ridge of high pressure extending across the uk. we do have this frontal system that's just going to bring a focus for some showers through the rest of the afternoon. so cloudy conditions across scotland with breaks of rain pushing through, especially across orkney. elsewhere, we'll see a few showers across northwestern parts of england, but on the whole, a largely dry

night to come with some clear spells as well. it's not going to be as chilly as last night, but we could still see a touch of frost, especially in the countryside. but as we start a sunday morning, we've still got cloud and rain persisting across orkney through the early start of the day, but further across central parts. a chilly start across scotland, perhaps with a touch of frost , but some touch of frost, but some sunshine as well. across northern ireland. we're already seeing the start of that low pressure system bringing increasing amounts of cloud here, but further across eastern parts of england, that's where we'll hold on to some bright weather to start the day. but it will turn increasingly cloudy as the day progresses , and that's the day progresses, and that's all to do with an area of low pressure moving in from the west. so we have got a met office wind warning in force, giving some strong winds, especially across southwestern parts of england and into wales. 50 possibly up to 60mph. and that's also going to bring in some increasing amounts of cloud

and rain further towards the east, though, holding on to a dner east, though, holding on to a drier day with some bright or hazy sunshine. but as the evening progresses, that low pressure system will continue to push its way across much of england and wales, bringing increasing amounts of cloud and rain. and we've got a wind warning and a rain warning in force as well. so unsettled on monday, but turning a little bit dner monday, but turning a little bit drier on tuesday and wednesday by that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers, sponsors of weather on gb. >>

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