be disagree. but no one will be cancelled. so joining me for the next few hours, gb news is senior political commentator nigel nelson, aslef broadcaster and journalist danny kelly. coming up in the show, the tory party conference has kicked off today. party conference has kicked off today . but which tory candidate today. but which tory candidate gets your vote? we've got robert jenrick renee badenoch, james cleverly and tom tugendhat. they're battling it out to lead the party and i've got to pull up right now on asking you that question. which tory candidate gets your vote? if it's none of the above, let me know. why. thenin the above, let me know. why. then in my. rosie duffield is fed up with the labour party, but many on the left seem to be excusing their behaviour . excusing their behaviour. >> have they broken any rules? no. have they broken any laws? no. have they broken any laws? no. have they unlawfully prorogued parliament? no. have they lied to the house of commons and been found to have done so by a committee of their own peers? >> but james o'brien on lbc, although he's already starting to eat his words and backtrack as ali gate starts to unravel,

could all of this signal the beginning of the end for sir keir starmer? then, in the interview, andrew eborn joins me to shed some light on his colourful career. who is the real andrew eborn? and in clip bbb . what? what happens next? bbb. what? what happens next? before we get started, let's get you latest news with sophia wenzler . wenzler. >> nana. thank you. good afternoon. >> it's just gone 3:00. i'm sophia wenzler with your headlines. the conservative party conference is getting underway in birmingham today, andifs underway in birmingham today, and it's kicking off already with tory leadership hopeful robert jenrick criticising leadership rival kemi badenoch for saying maternity pay is excessive. earlier, former prime minister rishi sunak and his wife arrived but they're expected to leave later on today. it will be his last

conference as leader . earlier on conference as leader. earlier on gb news today, our deputy political editor, tom harwood, spoke to all the tory leadership candidates. he quizzed robert jenrick on whether he could support any policy that the labour government could table. >> i've already said that the nhs needs reform and if wes streeting and keir starmer come forward with genuine reforms in the national interest that improve productivity, so that we actually talk about outputs, not just inputs, i would support them. i've already said that the nhs needs reform and if wes streeting and keir starmer come forward with genuine reforms in the national interest that improve productivity , so that we improve productivity, so that we actually talk about outputs, not just inputs, i would support them . them. >> and when pressed on why the conservatives suffered such a historic loss at the general election, leadership candidate james cleverly had this to say.

>> you've got to recognise that the british people kicked us out for a reason, and they kicked us out because of the gulf between what we said and what we did . so what we said and what we did. so we need to promise less but deliver on everything. we promise . promise. >> meanwhile, tom tugendhat was asked why mps should back him, considering he's the only candidate left in the race who hasn't held a full cabinet position. >> i'm not going to hold it against them. their lack of experience on the front line in combat, i'm not going to hold it against them for their lack of experience in serious operational theatres like iraq and afghanistan. i'm not going to hold against them their, you know, their record of the past few years. my job is to set forward my record and demonstrate what i can offer this country . this country. >> and last but not least, kemi badenoch was asked if she thought the leadership contest has been a clean race. >> i think that whenever people do things that are you know, about other candidates, people can see. so i'm just focused on my own campaign. it's for the party authorities to decide. i'm

very happy to correct the record, but it shows that he's not actually reading or listening to what i'm saying . listening to what i'm saying. >> now, in other news, david lammy has spoken to the lebanese prime minister following a series of israeli airstrikes on beirut. the foreign secretary says they agreed that an immediate ceasefire is required to bring an end to the bloodshed. it comes after the terrorist group hezbollah confirmed their leader, hassan nasrallah, was killed in an airstrike in southern lebanon. israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu says israel settled the score with nasrallah's death . the score with nasrallah's death. now back in the uk , canterbury now back in the uk, canterbury mp rosie duffield has resigned the labour whip, accusing the prime minister of hypocrisy and pursuing cruel and unnecessary policies. in a resignation letter, mr duffield attacked sir keir starmer's decision to keep the two child benefit cap and means test winter fuel payments, and condemned his handling of the outcry over gifts given to him and other senior labour figures. the chancellor of the

duchy of lancaster , pat duchy of lancaster, pat mcfadden, told gb news he is disappointed by the resignation. >> well, i think when you read rosie's resignation letter you can see that these are the frustrations and disagreements of somebody who has held them for quite a long time. there's no secret about that. i think rosie's been quite disaffected with the labour leader, with the labour party for quite a while, so i'm disappointed to see her 90, so i'm disappointed to see her go, because i like rosie and i think she's got a lot to offer. politics but ultimately i'm not surprised . surprised. >> meanwhile, almost 10 million households have been warned they risk overpaying for their energy if they don't send metre readings to their supplier before the price rise takes effect on the 1st of october. the average household energy bill is set to increase by £149 a year from this tuesday, as ofgem increases its price cap . ofgem increases its price cap. and finally, philip schofield

says the utter betrayal by his television colleagues has made him never want to be a daytime presenter, ever again. the 62 year old is set to appear on channel five's castaway, marking his first tv appearance since leaving itv in may of 2023. following an admission of an unwise but not illegal affair with a younger male colleague . with a younger male colleague. those are the latest gb news headlines. now it's back to nana for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . forward slash alerts. >> thank you sophia. it's fast approaching seven minutes after 3:00. this is gb news. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. coming up, i'll be going live to the conservative party conference as the four candidates are vying for the unappealing job of replacing rishi sunak as leader.

we'll have all the latest from birmingham now, which will lead to us the great then the great british debate this hour. and i'm asking which tory candidate gets your vote. well, either to pull up on x right now asking you that very question. and if none of them simply let us know, you can tell us your preference. so that's for the great british debate this hour. and then we'll head back to israel to speak to uri geller, who will give us the latest and his thoughts on the situation, which is rapidly changing in the middle east. all that and more. post your comments, send me your thoughts. gbnews.com/yoursay . right, so gbnews.com/yoursay. right, so the conservative party conference kicks off today. the most unimportant one in about 15 years, probably. and all the candidates have been making their pitches on the gb news stage this morning, including tom tugendhat, who was asked why mps should back him considering he's the only candidate left in

the race who hasn't held a full cabinet position . cabinet position. >> i'm not going to hold against them their lack of experience on them their lack of experience on the front line in combat. i'm not going to hold against them for their lack of experience in serious operational theatres like iraq and afghanistan. i'm not going to hold against them their, you know, their record of their, you know, their record of the past few years. my job is to set forward my record and demonstrate what i can offer this country . this country. >> so when pressed on why the conservatives suffered such a historic loss at the general election, leadership candidate james cleverly had this to say. >> you've got to recognise that the british people kicked us out for a reason and they kicked us out because of the gulf between what we said and what we did. so we need to promise less, but deliver on everything we promise. >> i think there was a lot more than that, james. and earlier on today, our deputy political edhon today, our deputy political editor, tom harwood, spoke to all the tory leadership candidates, and he quizzed robert jenrick on whether he could support any policy at the labour government that the labour government that the labour government that the labour government could table. >> i've already said that the

nhs needs reform, and if wes streeting and keir starmer come forward with genuine reforms in the national interest that improve productivity, so that we actually talk about outputs, not just inputs, i would support them. >> last but not least, kemi badenoch was asked whether she thought if the leadership contest had been a clean race. >> i think that whenever people do things that are , you know, do things that are, you know, about other candidates, people can see. so i'm just focused on my own campaign. it's for the party authorities to decide. i'm very happy to correct the record, but it shows that he's not actually reading or listening to what i'm saying. >> right. so let's have a chat with gb news political editor, christopher hope. christopher. so you're there at the conference, the candidates are all lining up and getting themselves ready to potentially lead the conservative party. is there much positivity and energy because a lot of people watching or hearing about it really aren't interested in the conservative party at all.

>> hi, nana. yeah, well, welcome to birmingham. this is where the tory party conference is happening. the scale of it is quite big really, because most of the people who are coming here on the corporate side have booked their space, thinking this would be the last conference for the tory government. in fact, the early election in july that was earlier than expected meant that this is now a party of opposition. when you've got four candidates fighting to be leader. i bumped into rishi sunak earlier today. he seemed quite relieved to be out of the fray slightly. he's met with some members here today and he's off tonight, leaving a space open for these candidates. and tomorrow i'll be doing a q&a with, two candidates, two till four and then two the following day on tuesday, two till four, with the members in the main conference stage. and that should be carried or bits of it by gb news. so it's all happening. and the party itself, the mps 120 or happening. and the party itself, the mps120 or so tory mps, will select the final two to go to the membership next wednesday, and then it's over to the

members and there might be debates . and so it goes on. so debates. and so it goes on. so yeah, we are getting to the white heat of that debate, and with me now is a supporter of kemi badenoch, who is one of the favourites to be the next tory leader, andrew griffith. welcome to gb news. thanks, chris. always great to have you here. there's a big row breaking this afternoon about your leader, your your candidate, kevin badenoch. she says that statutory maternity pay is excessive. she says we're taking from one group of people and giving to another. this is in my view, excessive, businesses are closing. they're not they're not staying in the uk. and the burden of regulation is too high. she told that to times radio earlier. is she right? is it too excessive or will it be under the labour government? even more excessive? >> well, what she's right about is that we need to have the debate about these things. >> one of the reasons i'm supporting kemi is that ability to tell the honest truths, difficult truths, sometimes , and difficult truths, sometimes, and it is a reality that you have to get the right balance. i think that was all she was really pointing to. >> she's got to get the right balance between the business

that drives the prosperity , that that drives the prosperity, that gives people the opportunity and indeed funds things like maternity pay and so many other benefits , and making sure that benefits, and making sure that our business world remains competitive. >> i came from that business. >> i came from that business. >> of course, all of these things individually, you know. >> good. i don't think kemi is against them and i think that's what she was saying. but in aggregate , we've just got to aggregate, we've just got to make sure that we don't get to a position in this country where our businesses can't compete internationally. >> yeah . her rival of the >> yeah. her rival of the leadership says robert jenrick doesn't agree with kemi on this one. on maternity pay is among the lowest in the oecd. tom tugendhat has also had a go at the comments. is it is it a misstep? i mean, surely working mums or even mums. are really important to this, to your party? >> no, look, he's not saying she's against maternity pay. >> she's saying there's a, there's a as on many fronts. >> it's the sort of discussion that you've got to have to make sure that that balance is struck in the right place . so if you're in the right place. so if you're a mom at home, don't worry. that's not what kemi is saying, that, you know, a little bit of a confected row. i can understand that. you know,

everyone's everyone's out there, you know , trying to talk their you know, trying to talk their own book. i think kemi's got that honesty. the fact we're talking about what she's saying shows that, you know, when she speaks, it really cuts through. and that's a really important part of how the conservative party, you know , connects with party, you know, connects with people and gets back to reminding people what we stand for. a lot of people said to me on the doorstep, look, you know, amongst many other reasons, one of the reasons is i just don't know what you as a conservative party stand for anymore. we've got to have that process of renewal, and then we've got to be able to clearly articulate that to people. >> and why. kemi then why kemi why not tom tugendhat or robert jenrick? >> i mean, all the candidates are colleagues, all all have got their own strengths. i think that we need that process of renewal, it's tough being in government and in government. invariably what i'd call the boat picks up plenty of barnacles, things that actually, if you stand back now, you know, was that really the right priority ? and were we getting on priority? and were we getting on with delivering what really mattered to conservative supporters, big process of

renewal. and you do that best in the most . you build the firmest the most. you build the firmest foundations and in the most resilient way. that's going to carry through us the next political cycle, which is why it's called kemi's campaign is called renewal 2030. it's not just about one person, it's about a whole process of renewal. >> 2030 is two years into the next labour government. if they win the election. >> well, it's a it's a point . >> well, it's a it's a point. you know, we talk about decades, right? the decade of renewal, a decade when we can get the british economy back growing, unleashing the potential of what is this great country of ours. and there will be a big job of work. i mean, you can see already some of the damage that already some of the damage that a labour government is doing coming out with unfunded promises. they have no idea how much some of the things they're saying will cost . even when saying will cost. even when they're saying they need to make cuts, they're not sure whether they're real cuts or whether we'll see more in the budget from labour. >> let's talk about your party. we see more from more from them shortly. borisjohnson we see more from more from them shortly. boris johnson is in the news with his memoir. should he have a role in the party under the new leader ? the new leader? >> well, i haven't i haven't read his memoir like you. i'm

it's in the papers all keen to see that. but, look, with 121 of us in parliament, you know, everybody who's got a useful voice to contribute to the renewal of our nation to and tearing apart this government. we can't leave rosie, rosie duffield to tear this government down on her own. it needs all of us in the broader conservative family. of course, that includes former prime ministers, but it also includes all of the activists. you know, the people on the doorsteps, in the bars, up and down the country . they, up and down the country. they, as much as anyone, are the voice of conservatives. >> so that's a yes to boris coming back. >> it's a yes to everybody, chris. >> right, frank. okay, good, in terms of the ending of this, of this, leadership campaign, the leader announced on the 2nd of november five, 2 or 3 days after this really important budget, which will set the tone for the five year labour labour government. don't you want to have a leader in place by the october 30th? >> look, i'm not i'm not sure about the semantics of that. it's always a tough gig for

whoever is leader of the opposition. i mean, how many of keir starmer's you know , keir starmer's you know, opposition speeches to the budget, do you really remember really got breakthrough? what is really got breakthrough? what is really important is that as that budget inevitably unwinds as that budget reveals, you know, they're talking about breaking they're talking about breaking the fiscal rules. there's a lot of things rewriting the accounting rules, you know, effectively for the whole country. if they add more off balance sheet borrowing as that unfolds, which won't be in hours, but it could be in days and weeks and months at that point, we need to have the right leader. it's not just about the right leader. it's also about fielding the right bench . and fielding the right bench. and all of us as conservatives, uniting behind whoever she or he is and really taking the to fire the opposition. we do not have long given what an absolute horlicks this government is making. you know how corrupt it appears already that they are in terms of the donations. we do not have that long to get a leader in place and get ready for government again . for government again. >> who should your party be facing? is it the lost reform uk

voters or lost lib dem voters in the blue wall? >> it's about all of those groups. >> i know it is, but who's the priority? >> well, i actually think it's about being the best version of ourselves, if we're honest about the last election, many people put their ballot in the any one but conservatives box, and many people stayed at home as well. chris so it wasn't just about reform or lib dem. a lot of people stayed at home who were natural conservative supporters, often for the very first time. it was it was painful on the doorsteps. so we need to remind them which the government is doing a very good job of why socialism fails, why we believe in the moral virtue of people who work hard and try and provide for themselves. but then we need to get our own act together so we are a credible opposition and then a credible government. >> andrew andrew griffiths, thank you for that. andrew griffiths being the shadow science and technology spokesman, nana. >> now andrew did mention rosie duffield. they'd accept anybody. are there any rumours that rosie duffield may move to across the floor to the conservative party?

is there a possible a possibility of that happening? >> well, it's a very good question. i mean, there were the rumours that she was in talks with the tories about 3 or 4 years ago when she was first falling out with the labour. labour leadership led by sir keir starmer. and that came to nothing. and of course she fought for the labour party in the july election. and she does say in her letter that she wants to come back to the labour party when it's reformed itself. maybe under a different leader. so as things stand, no, but there have, there was chatter about that. she was quite close to some senior tory women because of the stance she was taking on women in this, the battle over the trans debate. so it's not a silly question, but she says she wants to stick with, with or come back later when it's ready. but i think that idea is not completely crazy. nana if you take my meaning. >> yeah, i hear, well, we shall watch this space. christopher. hope thank you very much. that's christopher hope. he's there in birmingham at the tory party

conference. well, you're with me. i'm nana akua this is gb news. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. coming up, we'll head to israel and speak to uri geller , who will give us to uri geller, who will give us the latest, his thoughts on the situation that is unfolding in the middle east and what it could mean for the rest of the world. but next, it's time for the great british debate this houn the great british debate this hour. and i'm asking which tory candidate any, gets your vote. this

gb news. it's just coming up to 23 minutes after 3:00. if you've just tuned in. welcome. we are britain's news channel. i'm nana akua and we are live on tv, onune akua and we are live on tv, online and on digital radio. and it's online and on digital radio. and wsfime online and on digital radio. and it's time now for the great british debate. this hour. it's time now for the great british debate. this hour . and british debate. this hour. and i'm asking which tory candidate, if any , gets your vote. now the if any, gets your vote. now the candidates are james cleverly . candidates are james cleverly. we've got robert jenrick, tom tugendhat and kemi badenoch. some people may feel they're all very uninspiring, but they are vying for the unappealing job of

replacing rishi sunak as conservative leader and leading their diminished 121 mps in opposition to sir keir starmer's government. what do you think? so for the great british debate this hour, i'm asking which tory candidate gets your vote and why. send me your thoughts, post your comments gbnews.com/yoursay. joining me now , gb news political now, gb news political commentator nigel nelson also broadcaster and journalist danny kelly. finally he got here. in the end. nobody knows, nobody knows. nobody knows that you were late. >> nobody knows. >> nobody knows. >> and i thought i was really early. >> yeah. he tried to blame the producer as well, which i thought was interesting about throwing me under the bus. don't worry. i was gonna say the bus was just. oh i think you'd probably win . thank you. probably win. thank you. >> a speed hump. >> a speed hump. >> right now i'm going to start with you, nigel nelson, these these. this is obviously the tory party. do you feel there's a bit of energy in the tory party? and if you were to pick one, that might be scary for the labour party, which one would it be? >> well, i'm not a tory member

as you can, as i'm not sure as. i'm sure you're not surprised to actually know, and i don't like any of them. so each has , things any of them. so each has, things they dislike about james cleverly wants to, wants to bnng cleverly wants to, wants to bring back rwanda, don't like that idea very much, you've got tom tugendhat and robert jenrick who say they'd leave the european court of human rights. i don't like that , kemi badenoch i don't like that, kemi badenoch just says weird things. really >> i think you've got to qualify that. what has she said? >> that's weird. okay, well, she's she's, i think we're going to talk a bit about about her later. about her sort of culture war idea, but she does things like at one point she was saying she didn't think we had to leave the echr and now she seems to be saying, well, maybe we do. it's all a bit weird that somebody's changing their mind. >> i thought you might bring up the mcdonald's thing. well, i could throw that out with that. >> i could throw that one, throw that one too. but anyway, in

answer to your question, if it's the best of a bad bunch, i doubt whoever it is will be there by the election. they will be at least one other leadership contest before then. probably two. i think i would go for tom tugendhat would probably say the same about keir starmer. >> he's i mean more and more, i think my socialist friend to my left should have more confidence in great britain being able to leave the echr and copy and paste the best bits of it. >> we're a fabulous country, just because we leave the echr doesn't, i would suggest, mean that people are going to die, or be killed, or be treated less well than they are already. i think we're capable of leaving the echr and copying and pasting the echr and copying and pasting the best bits. that's just a personal opinion, but it takes us out of international law and makes us an international pariah. >> well, i don't think it does. >> well, i don't think it does. >> i think that's a scare tactic that people who are afraid of leaving the echr will say that it makes us look like a poor relation on the world stage. i don't think it would. where where's the evidence? has any political leaders said if you leave, if you look at look at

membership of the of the european convention on human rights, i mean, the two countries that have left it are russia for invading ukraine and belarus. >> so what? so well, i'd rather not be put into the same category as those two countries. >> yes, but they have left it for completely different reasons as to why we may want to leave it. and that would be to get the flights off the ground. and we would be leaving it on the basis, the same way that if we argue about immigration, about leaving the refugee convention we be leaving it because we don't we don't like that part of international law. >> and the point i'm making is that if we're part of the world community, britain has to actually go along with with international law, even the bits that we don't like. >> i think we can be part of the world community and separate ourselves from that legislation personally. >> well, you would be you would certainly be breaking away from certainly be breaking away from certainly a bit of that world community. >> of course, i think we're all we're always going to be part of the world's, if you like, top countries and elite , whether countries and elite, whether we're in it or not, i don't think we'd be an international pariah. but that's where you and

i disagree. disagree? i like badenoch, i really do , and i badenoch, i really do, and i think she's got a lot of courage . think she's got a lot of courage. i think she's not frightened to say what she feels , and she says say what she feels, and she says things that a lot of people sort of sympathise and empathise with, but maybe are a little bit too cautious to actually say, i know that we're going to discuss the diversity thing later on this show, and i'm really keen to hear other views on that. so she would be my and i'm not a conservative member either, nigel. just like you, but i think that she would be a strong rival to keir starmer at the despatch box. >> i really do . robert jenrick >> i really do. robert jenrick he is the front runner, right now. a lot of people thinking that he would be the one and he seems to be. he has the most votes at the moment. surely he seems like it's if he has the most votes then he's going to get the ticket, isn't it. do you think the british public actually care though? >> to be honest, yes, i do, i think i think the british public. and i tell you what the rosie duffield who's just stepped out, i think this is

what i was praying for. i'm not a big fan of calling for by elections, when people sort of fall out and have the whip removed, but i would love there to be a by—election, because i don't think labour would win. i think in the first, however many days labour have been in power. i think this is a this would be a reality check for starmer if there was a by—election and labour weren't to win, because i don't think they would . don't think they would. >> but but it's interesting. i mean, the labour party are doing almost what the tories did to themselves. but at the very beginning, nigel, i mean, you're not seeing this, you know, very what are your views on what's happening with the labour party? >> well, i mean , the, the >> well, i mean, the, the £32,000 worth of gifts that we now know that keir starmer got, thatis now know that keir starmer got, that is definitely a misstep , that is definitely a misstep, i'm not worried about the hospitality so much. i think that's a totally different thing. why? well, simply because i think that senior politicians should get out and about, talk to people. >> yeah, but it's the hypocrisy of it . it's not so much. and of it. it's not so much. and actually, i'm slightly i mean, you've got to get a point get to

a point where if you're doing it every week, that's not hospitality. you're, you're feeding your, your thing. so i think that there is a difference to going to a football every week. >> it's a transient. yes, it is a transient thing. and also the trouble about the hospitality thing is it's very hard to draw the line . so if a prime minister the line. so if a prime minister goes to a reception, does he have to refuse the glass of wine or the canapes, though? not exactly. that's why you can't draw the line on that. >> no, you can, because you're doing something specifically unked doing something specifically linked with his job to be a politician, going to arsenal and watching the football. what's that got to do, i think what's that got to do, i think what's that got to do? honestly, i think for a prime minister honestly going to justify. yeah. >> being out and about. yes. but what i don't justify the football. i don't see that that taking clothes and expensive glasses has anything to do with his job as prime minister that's where i would draw the line. and i don't think any mp should accept expensive gifts. there's no reason that they need it. >> exactly. it's gifting, isn't it? to agree i agree power. >> i agree with nigel. you know. why are they being given these expensive gifts? somebody wants

something out of them. whether they want to curry favour, ingratiate themselves. i think the most damaging thing about all of these gifts are his wife's clothes. i'm not. i'm not overly fussed about his tailored suits because the guy is eventually going to be on the world stage, so i understand. >> no, no, no, but he's very rich. it's not that he. >> no, no, no, you're right. the most damaging thing are the glasses. now it's true. and i thought it was one pair of £2,250 glasses. it's not. it's actually multiple pairs of glasses. now, it's okay to wear a savile row suit, but you don't need somebody to give you money to buy a £200 pair of glasses. well, that's . to buy a £200 pair of glasses. well, that's. nigel's to buy a £200 pair of glasses. well, that's . nigel's got to buy a £200 pair of glasses. well, that's. nigel's got a nice set of gigs on his face and all paid for by me. and i bet you they, i bet you they were around about 150 nicker 200 nicker. >> so like, more than that. >> so like, more than that. >> but anyway. okay, but two and a half hundred nicker maybe. >> yeah, but but but how much money have you got? >> this is going up. it's like a bidding war. this is, isn't it, the generation game. you've got to get 150. >> i'm back on tv all those years ago. but. >> but that's my point. you know, having a suit is one

thing, but you can buy your own glasses . glasses. >> you can buy your own glasses, you can buy your wife's dresses. and if you're a millionaire, you're being paid £167,000 a yeah you're being paid £167,000 a year. most people don't get that kind of salary. and he's also a millionaire. he's got loads of properties. he's got income from properties. he's got income from properties. he's got income from properties. he does not need anyone to buy him anything at all. i think it's utterly disgraceful and it's sheer hypocrisy. when the labour party sat on a plinth of integrity, hardly doing things differently. well, listen, we'll be talking about them later. but if you've just tuned in. welcome. 31 minutes after 3:00, you're with me. i'm nana akua. this is gb news. we are live on tv, online and on digital radio. coming up, we will head to israel. we'll get the latest from uri geller. but first, let's get an update with your news with sophia wenzler . wenzler. >> nana. thank you. good afternoon . it's 332. these are afternoon. it's 332. these are your headlines. the conservative party conference is getting under way in birmingham today, andifs under way in birmingham today, and it's kicking off already with tory leadership hopeful robert jenrick criticising leadership rival kemi badenoch for saying maternity pay is

excessive. leadership hopefuls james cleverly , robert jenrick james cleverly, robert jenrick tom tugendhat and kemi badenoch will all be making their case to be the next leader of the party. former prime minister rishi sunak and his wife arrived last night, but are expected to leave later on today. it will be his last conference as leader . now last conference as leader. now in other news, david lammy has spoken to the lebanese prime minister following a series of israeli airstrikes on beirut. the foreign secretary says they agreed that an immediate ceasefire is required to bring an end to the bloodshed. it comes after the terrorist group hezbollah confirmed their leader, hassan nasrallah, was killed in an airstrike in southern lebanon. israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu says israel settled the score with nasrallah's death. israel also says 20 other senior hezbollah figures have been killed in the attack . now, canterbury mp rosie attack. now, canterbury mp rosie duffield has resigned the labour whip accusing the prime minister

of hypocrisy and pursuing cruel and unnecessary policies. in a resignation letter, mr duffield attacked sir keir starmer's decision to keep the two child benefit cap and means test winter fuel payments, and condemned his handling of the outcry over gifts given to him and other senior labour figures . and other senior labour figures. and finally, spacex has launched its mission to bring back two astronauts who have been stranded on the international space station. >> 321 ignition, mechanical power and lift off of the dragon capsule, which has two empty seats for butch wilmore and suni williams, lifted off from cape canaveral last night. >> the pair were only meant to be in space for eight days, but after a fault was found on their return vehicle, the new boeing starliner, it returned to earth empty as a precaution, leaving them stranded for almost four months. the new team hope to

bnng months. the new team hope to bring them back in february of next year. those are the latest gb news headlines. more in half an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com forward

>> welcome . 37 minutes after >> welcome. 37 minutes after 3:00. if you've just tuned in, this is gb news we are britain's news channel. i'm nana akua. don't forget as well. download the gb news app. it is completely free. you can check out all the programmes on that app out all the programmes on that app in real time and also in your own time . but now to the your own time. but now to the killing of hezbollah leader hassan nasrallah following an airstrike by israeli forces. and here is how one journalist reacted to the news upon confirmation of his death, he

talked to a psychiatrist or people who actually read body language. >> they can tell you that it's out of control . out of control. >> marwa. >> marwa. >> so sorry to interrupt. we do now have official confirmation from the hezbollah group of the death of hassan nasrallah. what's your response? please . what's your response? please. i'm so sorry. let's, let's end the interview there . the interview there. >> so for those on radio, the lady put her hand to the camera and then started going. and then it was about to burst into tears. and then she switched off her connection. so they couldn't see that she was very upset about this . well, joining me about this. well, joining me now, mustafa and performer uri geller. uri, welcome to the program. very good to talk to you. did you get a chance to have a look at that clip and see the reaction of that lady? >> yeah. listen, anna, i'm not sorry for that lady. >> look, first of all, i'm happy to be back on your show today because we are on yesterday. look, i would like this is

important. i would like to respond to what one of your guests said after my appearance yesterday. he said to stop what's happening will involve putting pressure on israel. he was actually suggesting israel has gone too far , too far nana has gone too far, too far nana in my view, israel has not gone far enough. and i'm saying that as a man of peace, i am a man of peace. as someone who hates war. but nana, just like in world war two, sometimes you have no choice. britain had no choice but to fight the nazis. ukraine has no choice but to fight russia and israel has no choice but to fight all the terror groups waging war on it. right now, as we speak, missiles are flying in. i can see it on my mobile phone. everyone should remember israel did not start this war. next week it will be

one year since we were attacked out of the blue nana by hamas, and the very next day , hezbollah and the very next day, hezbollah in the north joined in without provocation. i would also like to answer all those critics who say israel has only made matters worse by killing nasrallah, nana. come on, the truth is exactly the opposite . hezbollah exactly the opposite. hezbollah was already at war with israel . was already at war with israel. hezbollah had already fired more than 8000 rockets at israel. hezbollah has already said it would escalate its attack on israel. it's like saying, don't kill hitler because you will only make the nazis angry . kill hitler because you will only make the nazis angry. nana it is illogical. look, let me show you something. you. i showed this picture a few times. so we have killed the head of hamas and we have killed the head of hezbollah. you don't

have to be uri geller to predict who is next. nana. i'm talking about the butcher of iran, ayatollah khomeini. israel has him in its sights. he has been rushed to a secure location. they're hiding him . but israel they're hiding him. but israel and this is a revelation for all of you gb viewers . israel knows of you gb viewers. israel knows exactly where he is. we know where he sleeps , where he eats. where he sleeps, where he eats. we know where he even brushes his teeth. and by the way, i bet he's too scared these days to even use an electric toothbrush . even use an electric toothbrush. trust me, i know what i'm saying. to finalise today's interview. look, nana, israel's enemies do not have a good record of dying peacefully in their sleep. i send you all

love, peace, peace, peace and do come to the holy land, to israel and enjoy the time here. i love you all. >> oh, we love you too. you stay safe. thank you so much. it's really a pleasure to talk to you. that's andrew gwynne. those are his thoughts on the war. thatis are his thoughts on the war. that is happening right now with israel . that is happening right now with israel. right. so that is happening right now with israel . right. so next it's that is happening right now with israel. right. so next it's time for the great british debate. this hour . for the great british debate. this hour. i'm asking, should the west stop telling israel to what do

it's just coming up to 46 minutes after 3:00. if you've just tuned in, where have you been? you missed the first part of the show, but it's fine. you've come in early now and you're here now. i'm nana akua. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. and i'm asking, should the west stop telling israel what to do now? following the death of hezbollah leader hassan nasrallah and continued airstrikes in beirut, western

nations, including the uk, have called on an immediate ceasefire in lebanon over concerns of escalation. now israel would say that they are doing what is needed to defend themselves. so what do you think? are we just putting our nose in somewhere where actually we don't have the full context of the scale of what is going on there, and we're sitting nicely in our homes coming up with this, this narrative, because it seems like the right thing to say. narrative, because it seems like the right thing to say . what do the right thing to say. what do you think? should we just butt out? so for the great british debate this year, i'm asking, should the west stop telling israel what to do? well, joining me now is gb news senior political commentator nigel nelson. and also broadcaster and journalist danny kelly. danny kelly, what do you think? >> well, i don't think it doesn't matter because netanyahu, netanyahu just ignores everyone anyway. it doesn't really matter. you know, you can keep telling him, requesting, advising, pleading. it really doesn't matter. i think it's important that there is a global dialogue about this, because escalation in the middle east is always just a little bit away, depending on what happens . away, depending on what happens. incredibly significant killing the leader of the hezbollah

terrorist group and they are prescribed terrorists. so oh, they are so that's so that's something that if everything . something that if everything. yeah. so that's something that you should only think is a positive thing. but he'll be replaced. in fact, i was just reading online during one of the intervals earlier that israel have now whacked the guy who they think was going to step into the breach , so they've into the breach, so they've actually got him already before he replaces . he replaces. >> did you take his point that, you know, just because, you know, there's a hitler, you know, there's a hitler, you know, we got rid of hitler. we didn't think, oh, well get rid of him. somebody will take his place. there's no point sort of thing which a lot of people there's a lot of. >> i don't think that. i think that was a bit of a false equivalence with hitler. why? well, because i think hitler, hitler, hitler was in charge of one country and there wasn't a religious element to what hitler was doing in the arab world. there's a there's something that glues them all together, and it's the religion he's making is that when there's a bad man leading something. >> so if you do equate it to hitler , then you don't. the hitler, then you don't. the excuse for not getting rid of that person isn't, oh, well,

we're not doing that because another one will come in in the place. so there's no point, the point of getting rid of a bad leader is to hopefully improve the prognosis , which happened the prognosis, which happened when we got rid of hitler. let's come to you, nigel nelson. yeah. >> i mean, i think first of all, yes, we should be telling israel what they should and shouldn't do. and that's the job of the international community and calling for a ceasefire to stop escalation is the right thing to do. as danny says, netanyahu won't listen anyway. he'll completely ignore it and carry on doing whatever he wants to do . on doing whatever he wants to do. the reason i think that we have a stake in this is that we do have skin in the game in the sense that at the moment, the biggest danger is iran will be drawn into this war. and if that happens, the us is likely to be drawn into it too. and if the us is drawn into it, so are we. so there is a danger that we could all become embroiled in another major middle east war. well what about the narrative that seems to be coming this way, that everyone seems to be telling israel what to do, but nobody seems to be that bothered about

speaking to hezbollah or hamas or the houthis. >> everything beginning with h. at the moment. why is why is the narrative and the energy and the pressure all on israel when if thatis pressure all on israel when if that is the case, from what you said, there should be some serious pressure from the western communities actually putting pressure on those groups. why is that not happening? well, it is because really . really. >> well, we don't have any as again, as danny said, that hezbollah is a proscribed terrorist organisation. we have no, easy routes of communication with them. all that is done through the middle east. so, for instance, that, hamas are being pressured to release the hostages and will try and get to try and get a ceasefire in gaza. that's happening. we're not directly involved , but we have directly involved, but we have got people who are talking to them through the middle east, to see if they can agree and you've got egypt in that case, as the kind of neutral country hosting those kinds of those talks. >> but but we talked about this the other week that the narrative is that israel, you know, for example, david lammy has stopped 30 of the licences

for israel. you know , that's, for israel. you know, that's, you know, whilst hamas are still, you know , obviously being still, you know, obviously being suppued still, you know, obviously being supplied by iran, who doesn't subscribe to international law . subscribe to international law. and if that was to continue, israel would end up with no weapons and we would simply be leaving them open to be mauled by these these terror groups. it doesn't make any sense to me. >> israel would have a real problem if america stops supplying weapons because they supplying weapons because they supply 70% of israel's arms. we supply, i think, less than 1%. so what we did was symbolic rather than would cause any any great damage. however, i mean that the reason we did it is because i think there's a theme running through this, but we were obeying international law. >> but a lot of people say, no, that's not true. and david lammy, he's only just stepped into the fray. and i'm i don't think that what he's doing makes any sense at all. >> you raised a really interesting point. you know, there's diplomatic dialogue on a global stage with israel, but there's nothing towards hamas or hezbollah. well, the reason being is that you can't diplomatically resolve the situation with iran and

hezbollah because they just want to wipe israel off the face of planet earth. that is their end game. so you can't with diplomacy, you could almost say, okay, well, look, let's agree a two state solution. and hopefully that will placate that side of the west bank and the gaza strip. and then that could resolve that. but you've got you've got iran who just want to wipe israel off the face of the earth. well, they did try, didn't they. yeah. so you got and there's a religious element to all of this because you're deaung to all of this because you're dealing with people who tell us they're not afraid of dying. >> well, you see, that's the thing. so i a lot of people thinking that the west should actually back out of this and, you know, continue to supply israel, and israel should carry on doing what they're doing. and, yes, we would like a diplomatic solution, but the bottom line is if we might want that, and there's a lot of pro—palestine protesters calling for a ceasefire and, well , then for a ceasefire and, well, then they should tell hamas to stop firing the rockets. no, i agree, hand back the hostages. >> i mean, the irony of this is if they did this, did the war would be over pretty well. >> i mean, the irony is, i mean, as yuri just said, that since october the 7th, hezbollah has fired 8000 missiles into israel.

>> if hezbollah stopped firing missiles, well, that was the end. and stop the fact that 80,000 israelis have had to had to move home. they're in sort of internal exile now because of that. internal exile now because of that . if internal exile now because of that. if hamas stopped, stopped doing it, then there would be an awful lot of pressure on israel to call the ceasefire. but that just isn't going to happen. so at the moment, the diplomatic efforts have got to be with both sides coming to an agreement, and that's not very likely. ultimately, it's the two state solution you were talking about. but even there , it's a very but even there, it's a very difficult one to get to. >> that doesn't resolve the iranian position, though. >> no it doesn't. >> no it doesn't. >> iran's not that bothered about the two states. iran just wants to wipe off the planet. israel and the jews who live absolutely right that as far as israel is concerned, their constant fear is that iran will attack them. >> well, listen, some people have been getting in touch. cameron says. uri geller was fantastic. i loved that a bit of fun and a lot of truth, oliver says.i fun and a lot of truth, oliver says. i totally agree with a lot of love coming in from uri for uri today, then we. lisa's

talking about keir starmer the man's estate estimate of glasses, £150. he got to be joking. my last one cost £800. i think that was you with a pair of glasses. yeah, yeah. >> she's got money to burn, then. no, she does, but what she's saying is that your estimate of £150 was totally unrealistic. and it's not unrealistic. and it's not unrealistic. you can order a set of glasses online for about £80. all they need is the prescription and then add that on to it. >> that's more than 150. once you've got the prescription dunng you've got the prescription during the next advert break, i'm going to price up a pair of glasses for the viewer. all right. listen, listen, lisa, lisa bates there. danny is going to price up a pair of glasses for you. so let's see if he can find a pair for £150. but it must also include the prescription of course. >> and it's going to have the anti—reflection coating on it as well for 150. >> didn't see the conversation going this way. >> no, neither did i. >> no, neither did i. >> yes. so anti—reflection coating and everything else. there you go. well, listen, stay with me. next. my niggle on rosie duffield's decision to quit the labour party . oh dear quit the labour party. oh dear keir, now let's get an update with your weather. post your comments. keep them coming

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well >> hello. good afternoon and welcome to gb news. we are live on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua and for the next two hours me and my panel will be taking on some of the big topics hitting the headlines right now. this show is all about opinion. it's mine. it's theirs. and of course it's yours. we'll be debating, discussing and at times we will disagree, but no one will be cancelled. so joining me today

is gb news senior political commentator nigel nelson and also broadcaster and journalist danny kelly. coming up, the tory party conference has kicked off today. but which tory candidate gets your vote? robert jenrick kemi badenoch james cleverly or tom tugendhat battling it out to lead the party? so i've got to pull up on x asking you that very question. which tory candidate gets your vote? if it's none of the above, let us know why then in my niggle that's on the way next. rosie duffield is fed up with the labour party, but many on the left seem to be excusing their behaviour. >> have they broken any rules? no. have they broken any laws? no. have they broken any laws? no have they unlawfully prorogued parliament? no. have they lied to the house of commons and been found to have done so by a committee of their own peers? >> james o'brien on lbc. although he's already started to eat his words and start backtracking as ali gate starts to unravel. could all of this signal the beginning of the end for sir keir starmer? then, in

the interview, andrew eborn joins me to shed some light on his colourful career. who is the real andrew eborn? then, in cupped real andrew eborn? then, in clipped bait, what happens ? clipped bait, what happens? yes, i'd love to hear your thoughts. but before we get started, let's get your latest news with sophia wenzler . wenzler. >> nana. thank you. good afternoon. it'sjust >> nana. thank you. good afternoon. it's just gone 4:00. i'm sophia wenzler with your headlines. the conservative party conference is getting underway in birmingham today, andifs underway in birmingham today, and it's kicking off already with tory leadership hopeful robert jenrick criticising rival kemi badenoch for saying maternity pay is excessive. former prime minister rishi sunak and his wife arrived last night, but they're expected to leave later on today . it will be leave later on today. it will be his last conference as leader . his last conference as leader. earlier on gb news today , our earlier on gb news today, our

deputy political editor, tom harwood, spoke to all the tory leadership candidates. he quizzed robert jenrick on whether he could support any policy that the labour government could table. >> i've already said that the nhs needs reform and if wes streeting and keir starmer come forward with genuine reforms in the national interest that improve productivity, so that we actually talk about outputs, not just inputs, i would support them. i've already said that the nhs needs reform and if wes streeting and keir starmer come forward with genuine reforms in the national interest that improve productivity, so that we actually talk about outputs, not just inputs, i would support them. >> and when pressed on why the conservatives suffered such a historic loss at the general election , leadership candidate election, leadership candidate james cleverly had this to say. >> you've got to recognise that the british people kicked us out for a reason, and they kicked us out because of the gulf between what we said and what we did. so

we need to promise less, but deliver on everything. we promise . promise. >> meanwhile, tom tugendhat was asked why mps should back him, considering he's the only candidate left in the race who hasn't held a full cabinet position. >> i'm not going to hold against them their lack of experience on them their lack of experience on the front line in combat. i'm not going to hold against them for their lack of experience in serious operational theatres like iraq and afghanistan. i'm not going to hold against them. they're you know, their record of the past few years. my job is to set forward my record and demonstrate what i can offer this country . this country. >> and last but not least, kemi badenoch was asked if she thought the leadership contest has been a clean race. >> i think that whenever people do things that are, you know, about other candidates, people can see. so i'm just focused on my own campaign. it's for the party authorities to decide. i'm very happy to correct the record , very happy to correct the record, but it shows that he's not actually reading or listening to what i'm saying. >> now, in other news, the israeli military has launched

fresh strikes on lebanon today , fresh strikes on lebanon today, saying they have struck dozens of hezbollah targets. the latest wave of attacks comes after israel killed 33 people and wounded 195 others yesterday . wounded 195 others yesterday. yesterday, david lammy spoke to the lebanese prime minister following the series of israeli air strikes on beirut. the foreign secretary says they agreed that an immediate ceasefire is required to bring an end to the bloodshed. it comes after the terrorist group hezbollah confirmed their leader, hassan nasrallah, was killed in airstrikes on southern lebanon. israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu says israel settled the score with nasrallah's death . now back in nasrallah's death. now back in the uk , canterbury mp rosie the uk, canterbury mp rosie duffield has resigned. the labour whip, accusing the prime minister of hypocrisy and pursuing cruel and unnecessary policies . in a resignation policies. in a resignation letter, mr duffield attacked sir keir starmer's decision to keep the two child benefit cap and means test winter fuel payments and condemned his handling of

the outcry over gifts given to him and other senior labour figures. the chancellor of the duchy of lancaster, pat mcfadden, told gb news he's disappointed by the resignation. >> well, i think when you read rosie's resignation letter you can see that these are the frustrations and disagreements of somebody who has held them for quite a long time. there's no secret about that. i think rosie's been quite disaffected with the labour leader, with the labour party for quite a while, so i'm disappointed to see her 90, so i'm disappointed to see her go, because i like rosie and i think she's got a lot to offer. politics but ultimately i'm not surprised. >> and almost 10 million households have been warned they risk overpaying for their energy if they don't send metre readings to their supplier before the price rise takes effect on the 1st of october. the average household energy bill is set to increase by £149

a year from this tuesday, as ofgem increases its price cap . ofgem increases its price cap. those are the latest gb news headlines. now it's back to nana for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com forward slash alerts . forward slash alerts. >> good afternoon. it is fast approaching seven minutes after 4:00. this is gb news. we are live on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua nora forster. so the exodus begins . after less than three begins. after less than three months in power. sir keir starmer has lost one of his most promising rising female stars. rosie duffield, labour mp for canterbury. now rosie first really came to prominence when she stuck up for women's rights by simply agreeing to the notion

that only women have a cervix, which is obviously true because the cervix is the neck of a womb. and unless i've missed something, men don't have wounds. how quickly we forget the lunacy that possessed the party when it came to defining woman. >> a woman can woman. >> a woman can have woman. >> a woman can have a woman. >> a woman can have a penis. >> a woman can have a penis. >> they come not. >> they come not. >> i don't think we can conduct this debate with, you know. sorry. no no, no, it's just. >> no, no, no, i just a woman can have a penis. i don't think that discussing this issue in this way helps anyone in the long run. what i know is laughable. >> rosie was also frightened back then to go to her own party conference for fear of repercussions. and on resigning her position, she accused sir keir starmer of presiding over sleaze, nepotism and apparent avarice. and that is off the scale, and that she was ashamed of what he and his inner circle

had done to tarnish and humiliate our once proud party. very powerful words, in fact, words, some of which, in particular sleaze, were attributed to the conservative party. she uses the word avarice, a word i think i last heard in the bible. it means extreme greed for wealth and material gain. the cash for clothes lord alli gate scandal is an absolute example of that. yesterday, another £16,000 was undressed as being wrongly assigned as money for his private office. if it's all above board, why disguise it? the only reason i can think of would be because the person declaring it knew it would look bad if they were honest about it. she refers to nepotism, so helping close family and friends andinner helping close family and friends and inner circle. she calls it a bit like contracts going to people with close links to the tories during the pandemic. there's a cigarette paper between the behaviours of both of our main political parties, andifs of our main political parties, and it's hilarious listening to the likes of james o'brien trying to excuse it. >> well, does your ability to

pay >> well, does your ability to pay your gas bill, how is it in any way affected by the price of the suit that keir starmer is wearing? waheed alli is a labour peer giving money to his own party, giving to money members of his own party people, i don't know, perhaps he even describes as friends. so what is it that i am supposed to be cross about? and then the other voice kicks in and goes, no, you must be missing something. and you begin to, well, am i being tribal? am i being all the things that i accuse other people of being? and you can answer that question quite easily. have they broken any rules? no. have they broken any rules? no. have they broken any laws? no. have they unlawfully prorogued parliament? no. have they lied to the house of commons and been found to have done so by a committee of their own peers, >> yeah. well maybe not, but things are unravelling as we speak, and i suspect that there is way more to come. and for all of those, in particular journalists and broadcasters who have tried to trivialise this story but were hot on the heels of boris johnson and partygate,

this in my view, is just the tip of the iceberg. in a resignation letter, he stated someone with far above average wealth choosing to keep the conservative's two child limit to benefit payments, which entrenches children in poverty whilst inexplicably accepting expensive personal gifts of designer suits and glasses costing more than most of these people can grasp, this is entirely undeserving of holding the title of labour prime minister. rosie went on to say , minister. rosie went on to say, forcing a vote to make many older people iller and colder, whilst you and your favourite colleagues enjoy free family trips to events most people would have to save hard for. why are you not showing even the slightest bit of embarrassment? rosie declared that keir is unfit for office, inexplicably choosing to accept designer suits whilst at the same time pursuing cruel and unnecessary policies. watch this space because there's more to come .

because there's more to come. before we get stuck into the debates, here is what else is coming up today for the great british debate this hour. i'm asking , british debate this hour. i'm asking, what's british debate this hour. i'm asking , what's rosie duffield asking, what's rosie duffield right to quit labour? the mp for canterbury quit her party yesterday, saying the sleaze, nepotism and apparent avarice are all off the scale and called the ongoing donations row cruel and unnecessary . and also for and unnecessary. and also for the second great british debate. this i'm asking was rosie duffield right to quit labour? then, at 340 we will be crossing live to the united states and get the latest from around the world from paul duddridge in world view. all of that on the way. plus, at five, i have a fabulous guest coming in. andrew eborn . the interview. you will eborn. the interview. you will not want to miss that. that's coming up in the next hour. as even coming up in the next hour. as ever, send me your thoughts, post your comments gbnews.com forward slash your say . well, forward slash your say. well, joining me now, author and journalist rebecca reed. rebecca, thank you very much for joining me. so rosie rosie read

rosie duffield has quit the labour party . in your view, did labour party. in your view, did that feel like the right move for her? >> i think it probably is the right move for her personally, because i don't think she's felt sort of at ease or particularly welcome in the party since her feelings around trans issues were made clear. >> and i don't think that sort of personal liaisons have been very good. and i imagine that from a sort of day to day basis, if you don't feel welcomed or supported by your colleagues, then it probably isn't the right job for you. i think her timing is interesting, and i think her methodology is perhaps a little uncomfortable. it's not what i would personally have done . but would personally have done. but yes, i think ultimately it's probably best for her. >> surely you would support the things that she was supporting in terms of women's rights. >> i mean, my personal opinion on on trans rights is not relevant because i'm not an mp. >> i think her difficulty is that she she believes things about trans people, about about trans people, which are very common in the uk, though not majority necessarily, but not

common in the labour party. and it's a really thorny issue. you know, it is a complicated one. it does really divide people . it does really divide people. and i think she's out of step with the people she's working with. and i think it seems like she's been made to feel quite uncomfortable at work, which nobody should be made to feel. >> so where do you stand, then, on cash for clothes? these, these labour party receiving multiple donations of money to buy clothing , which some of them buy clothing, which some of them seem. well, it seems like a lot of for money clothes. >> i don't, i don't have any issue with it. i mean, david cameron and samantha cameron had similar set up and i didn't have an issue with it with them enhen an issue with it with them ehheni an issue with it with them either. i think what you wear for work is probably i'm wearing a cardigan right now, but if you're trying to look smart and appropriate, i think it's a perfectly reasonable cost. i think anything that wasn't correctly and appropriately described, that's a mistake. it's a comms mistake. it makes you look bad. but i don't think it's morally an issue. i think rosie duffield, i think to suggest that it's this, that she's gone over is perhaps untrue. i think it's i think she would always have gone, i think after i think she probably stayed for the election because she wanted to win it as a labour

candidate. and then i think she was on the runway and this felt like the appropriate moment. it reminded me a bit of when piers morgan left, good morning britain over meghan markle, and it felt like he was really ground down by that job, and he was waiting for something to hangit was waiting for something to hang it on. and i think that's what she's done as well, i mean , what she's done as well, i mean, rosie duffield accepted £12,000 of donations towards her campaign, all correctly and appropriately declared on the register of interest. but she's clearly not morally opposed to donations. i'm not sure how bothered that she really is about that. i think this is about that. i think this is about the trans issues , but about the trans issues, but 150,000 or 100 and £100,000 that we know of was keir starmer. >> that is a lot of money to be. i mean, it's the highest amount that any of the other mps have taken in the form of, you that any of the other mps have taken in the form of , you know, taken in the form of, you know, in the form of gifts and so on and so forth. that is a lot. right surely. >> i mean, that's from 2019 through 2024. and he was running a leadership bid. so and also he has been very honest. and i think in places the reporting of how this has i think media literacy is very bad around this. right. so the headline

that you see is keir starmer takes £20,000 donation. and he didn't get given £20,000 of cash. he stayed at somebody's flat and they have to put a cost on it, which is which is an assessment. now actually realistically if you were renting out the flat, he stayed at it probably would have cost more than £20,000. but he wasn't given goods or services costing £20,000, and he certainly didn't get 20 grand in his bank account. and i think people are really losing track of this as if it's as if it's another expenses scandal. now, apart from mr mis declaring some of the clothes, all of this is completely legal and above board. and if you think the system is broken, then absolutely. let's talk about reform. but they haven't done anything illegal. they haven't done anything that would get you that you need to resign over. it's actually much less of an issue than it's being reported as . and that is also true of as. and that is also true of when boris johnson did it, when it was correctly, appropriately, whenever he declared something correctly and appropriately, he was perfectly within his rights to do it. david cameron also got lots and lots of donations. he declared them it was not illegal. it was appropriate at the time. >> well, i was just going to say, well, the last donation,

£16,000 worth. i mean , that was £16,000 worth. i mean, that was in 2023 and 2024, 10,006 thousand respectively. that was quite a bit. i'd say that's a lot for clothes in that short space of time. but you pointed out the flat. so we'll come to that briefly because i know i have to go to the tory party conference very quickly. but what where do you stand with the flat where he was broadcasting from, where he clearly put pictures up to try and make it look like it was his own place. >> i think that's fairly normal. i mean, whenever the royals do a sort of, broadcast, they will put sort of family photos around that are oriented. and i've known videographers who work on that project. and it's the same whenever you make any kind of broadcast, you do shape the background because you're trying to send a message of, i'm a family man. i'm a good person. so i don't think it was anywhere near as malicious as people want to present it as. i think it was. absolutely. it was marketing and it was about branding. but i don't think there was ever any desire to sort of like lie to the public. i think it's like when podcasters or vloggers use a studio that's got a sort of fake home background. it's to try and make you feel like you're like

they're relatable, which obviously he's not. he's an incredibly rich . incredibly rich. >> i think that depends what the message is. i mean, if you're telling other people to stay at home, then you're not even broadcasting from your home and you make the place look like your home. a lot of people would probably disagree with you on that one, but rebecca breed, thank you very much for your thoughts. that is rebecca reid. she is a broadcaster and journalist. meanwhile, the conservative party conference has begun and the leadership candidates have laid out their plans on their key policies as they are vying to replace rishi sunak as their leader. now, this is the first conference since their election defeat in july. robert jenrick tom tugendhat, kemi badenoch and james cleverly are busy drumming up support in the contest. well, let's now cross over live to birmingham and speak to gb news deputy political editor tom harwood. so tom harwood give us an update. what's happening at conference? >> well, goodness me , it's only >> well, goodness me, it's only a few minutes until rishi sunak remember him gets to the stage here at conference for what will be his only appearance publicly in this entire party conference.

yes, he's still leader of the conservative party. he's still leader of the opposition because this contest to replace him is going on and on. there are calls actually to shorten the contest so that the new leader, when elected, could respond to this budget that is coming next month from the chancellor, rachel reeves. two candidates are saying that this race should be shortened. two candidates are less sure, but yes, rishi sunak will be speaking at around half past this hour and likely saying sorry, sorry for an election result that delivered the conservative party its lowest number of seats in its history. yes, just 121 members of parliament elected for this party, a way down from the 365 they were elected under boris johnson in 2019. what a precipitous fall. but it's a fall that also strangely gives people at this conference hope.

if an enormous majority , one if an enormous majority, one under boris johnson, can be turned around in one parliamentary term, that means that some leadership contenders are saying that this enormous labour party majority could swing back just as quickly. are we in for an era of what some psephologists are calling promiscuous voters? yes. electors willing to switch from one party to another like never before. an electorate that is less sticky? perhaps that is what this next 4 or 5 year government term will deliver an election full of swings. >> thank you very much. tom harwood there gb news senior deputy political editor. right. let's see what you're saying. gbnews.com/yoursay keep them coming. i'll read some in just a moment. but first, we're live on digital radio. i'm nana akua. next up, it's time for the great british debate. this out. i'm asking, was rosie duffield right to quit

labour? 23 minutes after 4:00. welcome this is gb news. we are britain's news channel. i'm nana akua. we are live on tv, online and on digital radio. it's time now for the great british debate. this hour. and i'm asking, in your view, what's rosie duffield right to quit the labour party? now the canterbury mp has spectacularly quit branding their policies as cruel and unnecessary and saying the sleaze and nepotism within the party is off the scale and avarice. what an interesting word. i haven't heard that in years. so if the great british debate this year, i'm asking, was she right to quit? well, joining me now gb news senior political commentator nigel nelson, sukh broadcaster and journalist danny kelly. right, nigel nelson, rosie duffield, she's quit , nigel nelson, rosie duffield, she's quit, she's gone. >> she has gone and it's a matter of conscience for her in which case then her decision. so i'm not going to criticise her for that. the only criticism

i've got is that she's not holding a by—election. i think that that whenever an mp changes party or abandons their existing party, it's important they put that to the constituents who voted for them under a different bannen voted for them under a different banner. and that's what i think she ought to do. douglas carswell did it when he left the tory party and joined ukip. he held a by—election, won fair and square as the ukip candidate. that was the honourable thing to do. >> but you don't always do that. the labour party don't always do that, do they? >> no, but very few mps do it. >> no, but very few mps do it. >> i mean, they just they were elected by constituents who elected, but they were elected unden elected, but they were elected under, under a party banner. >> and i think that if you abandon that, you must give the your constituents a second chance to say, do they approve of that? >> i don't necessarily disagree with that. nigel, danny, danny, kelly, i think nigel is bang on the money. >> i would say that 10 or 15% of the people who actually voted for her were aware of her name. i think people just vote under the banner labour. i know whenever i cast my vote, i don't

know who the hell is representing that party. generally speaking, i just vote for that party and i think she should call a by—election for everything that nigel has said. and i wish she would, because i don't think labour would win. i don't think labour would win. i don't think labour would win. i don't think they would either. >> it'd be a landslide. >> it'd be a landslide. >> and if she. yeah. and there's another way to look at it. if she really was so principled, the other way to look at it is that she should hold a by—election, because then that would worry keir starmer. and potentially, if they were not to get a victory in that constituency, then that would give keir starmer something to really think about the general state of national politics and is he is he is he getting it right or wrong? i think labour would lose. do you think? i do, i think the pensioner thing has switched a lot of people off lately. >> well nigel, you're calling for the by—election and if she did, it would sound like i think that they would lose as well. >> not necessarily. i mean, i think that canterbury, where rosie is, is the mp is a slightly different place that she has a very strong local recognition. i think she had a fairly strong personal vote. >> well, when i say labour would

lose, she would win. but she's not representing the labour party anymore. >> so sorry, an independent. >> so sorry, an independent. >> i mean she's an independent. >> i mean she's an independent. >> i mean she's an independent. >> i think that for that reason it's worth giving it a go. but obviously there is a risk that she wouldn't win it. >> i don't think she will win, especially under this, this current sort of iteration. >> maybe she maybe she wouldn't win . why? well, because she's win. why? well, because she's going to dilute that vote, isn't she ? so there'd be i don't know she? so there'd be i don't know who the second person was and how many votes he or she got a tory constituency forever until oh, there you go . oh, there you go. >> then duffield came along. >> then duffield came along. >> and what was the majority? >> and what was the majority? >> how many votes ? oh, they had >> how many votes? oh, they had a huge majority. then it all it all switched round and so she won it back in i think she won it back in 2017 and has been an been an mp there since. but up until then it had been a rock solid tory seat. >> you know , that would be >> you know, that would be almost like a parochial vote on national politics. that would be, well, that would be a small constituency. that would be a parochial vote on national politics. and it would give labour a bloody nose and keir starmer personally something to think about. >> well, listen, benny has

talked and said all these labour apologists are trying to take everyone's eye off the ball by throwing in nonsense like starmer didn't get 20 grand into his bank account or it would have cost more to rent a place. the issue is his honesty in declaring the gifts and whether he should hold the post of prime minister. yeah, june says rosie duffield is a genuine and truthful mp. well done to for her speaking out. i do hope she crosses over to reform. a lot of people calling for her to do that and michael says, with regard to what rebecca said earlier , nana misread saying earlier, nana misread saying that apart from declaring something a bit late, starmer has done nothing wrong. that has not washed for someone who read the rules and regulations so intently to sunak, not so long ago, he should have not made any mistakes at all. and also, does that include the new revelation of another £16,000 declared for clothes? yeah well, it was declared for private office use or whatever, but it turned out it was closed clothes. i mean,

do you think rosie has a point here that the avarice and the greed and the, you know, the sleaze, which is just pointing out keir starmer went on and on and on and on about this, and here he is. >> i think keir starmer is detached from general public life, i really do. you've got someone who is so minted he is detached from what the normal man and woman think on the street, even though he says he's not, and that he's on their side and he empathises with the working man or woman. you know how someone who is so minted can take two and a half grand over a certain number of years for glasses, for eye furniture , and glasses, for eye furniture, and he doesn't see that the optics there's the pun, the optics are awful. i mean, he's myopic . awful. i mean, he's myopic. there's another one for you. he is myopic in the extreme. a tabloid journalist. >> well, i think he's spectacularly. oh, that's stinker. >> i mean, i do tend to agree with that, that i think rebecca reid was right, that when she said he hasn't done anything

wrong, he's worked within the rules morally though morally decorations. but it is the opfics decorations. but it is the optics of it. you don't go around taking expensive presents. >> it's just like when they're trying to get amazon or other people to pay more tax, and they're trying to say that it's a moral position that you're holding these the way he's behaved is kind of morally wrong, and that's what people don't like. >> well, i think that's right. it's an easily understood thing that suddenly here's somebody who is not rich, but moderately well off getting £32,000 worth of clothes and glasses. that comes up to almost the average wage of someone working , working wage of someone working, working full time in britain. so yes, people find that objectionable and so do i. it's i just think that the trouble about this story is that an awful lot has been lumped into it. suddenly wes streeting is being criticised for holding a fundraiser in wajid ali's flat. that's perfectly reasonable , i'm that's perfectly reasonable, i'm not too bothered about, but but it is the sort of all of the things it's not just the one

thing, but that's the point. >> it's lord alli seems to have been donating to loads of people on the labour party's front bench, and it does just look a bit off. >> what does ali want? why is he giving him everything? that's what you've got to ask. you know, if you if you are giving people continuously thousands of pounds worth of benefits in kind if you like, because rebecca was right. i agree with rebecca about the house. you know, the tabloids now have have worked out what that would be to rent a day and then multiplied it. i think that's a bit off personally. the glasses. >> his missus, why was he there? he's telling everyone to stay at home. he's at somebody else's flat. he's tried to make it. >> i get that, but it's the monetary value of it which which i don't think is. >> i think that's fair enough, because you've got to value something to work out what it is worth , because that's what worth, because that's what they're doing. they're doing things where you can almost not work out the value, but it must be declared. >> and the whole point is it must be declared. and they've declared it as well. >> yes. >> yes. >> and certainly it looks as if it's been under declared for the value that he got from that. i mean, i think that again, there was nothing wrong in about

making a covid broadcast from waheed ali's flat. but once again, the optics are very bad. if you're going to tell people to stay at home and then you don't tell them from somebody else's home, that's exactly right. it just seems extraordinary that he didn't see that one coming. >> but why is it that a lot of people on the left continue to justify this? i mean, i respect the fact, nigel, that you're being honest about it, but, you know, rebecca read james o'brien. all these people who are trying to make up excuses as though this is perfectly good and okay when this is not a party political issue, all of them are doing it. the conservative party did it and got lambasted for it. is the labour party doing it? they should also receive the same treatment. but what do you think? gbnews.com/yoursay so was rosie duffield right to leave for the avarice that she describes, post me your thoughts. send me your comments . thoughts. send me your comments. coming up, world view. i'll be joined by paul duddridge . he's joined by paul duddridge. he's live from the states. donald trump is threatening to criminally prosecute google if he wins the election in november. next, though, we've got the great british debate and

i'm asking, do you agree with kemi badenoch? as she says, not all cultures are equal. let's get your latest news headlines with sophia wenzler. >> good afternoon. it's just gone 4:30. these are your headlines. the conservative party conference is getting underway in birmingham today, andifs underway in birmingham today, and it's kicking off already with tory leadership hopeful robert jenrick criticising rival kemi badenoch for saying maternity pay is excessive. speaking to times radio, kemi badenoch said maternity pay has gone too far and the government needed to interfere less in people's lives. mrjenrick responded to the comments, saying that the party should be firmly on the side of parents. all the leadership hopefuls, including james cleverly, robert jenrick, tom tugendhat and kemi badenoch will be making their case to be the next leader of the party. now in other news, david lammy has spoken to the lebanese prime minister following a series of israeli

airstrikes on beirut. the foreign secretary says they agreed that an immediate ceasefire is required to bring an end to the bloodshed . it an end to the bloodshed. it comes after the terrorist group hezbollah confirmed their leader, hassan nasrallah, was killed in an airstrike in southern lebanon. israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu says israel settled the score with nasrallah's death. israel also says 20 other senior hezbollah figures have been killed in the attack . now back in the uk, attack. now back in the uk, canterbury mp rosie duffield has resigned. the labour whip , resigned. the labour whip, accusing the prime minister of hypocrisy and pursuing cruel and unnecessary policies. in a resignation letter, mr duffield attacked sir keir starmer's decision to keep the two child benefit cap and means test winter fuel payments and condemned his handling of the outcry over gifts given to him and other senior labour figures. and some breaking news coming to us out of austria, where early projections are showing the

right leaning freedom party has finished first in the austrian general election. the right leaning group is expected to be in pole position to form a coalition for the first time since the second world war. and we'll bring you more on that as we'll bring you more on that as we get it. those are your latest gb news headlines. more in half an hour for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code , or go to gbnews.com. >> slash alerts

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talking to themselves , oliver talking to themselves, oliver says i wonder what sort of gifts father ali christmas will give to starmer this year. probably nothing. to be fair, not after this, richard stevens says three cheers for rosie duffield. rosie duffield, who has, of course, quit the labour party . and then quit the labour party. and then who is it that said? oh, yes, adrian says nana lee anderson went to reform. there was no by—election, so why should there be for now? well, that's because remember, it was really leading up to the general election. so there was literally only a few weeks. so you then have two of them, which doesn't make any sense at all. so that was why. but he would have done, i presume, if it had been a longer gap. but right now it's time for the great british debate this out. and i'm asking, do you agree with kemi badenoch ? now, agree with kemi badenoch? now, this comes as the tory leadership candidate suggested not all cultures are equally valid when it comes to immigration and failing to recognise this is naive. she emphasised her own immigrant background, saying many stay away from discussing the issues around culture for fear of being

labelled xenophobic. so for the great british debate, that's all i'm asking. do you agree with kemi badenoch? well, joining me to discuss broadcaster and journalist danny kelly and also gb news senior political commentator nigel nelson. i just followed the script. nigel i don't understand what she means now. >> it seems to me that anybody who is who chooses to come to live here, one of the things they must do is obey british law and embrace british values . and. and embrace british values. and. but it doesn't mean mean necessarily abandoning their own culture or ethnic roots. so if they want to celebrate their own religious ceremonies, i think that that is perfectly okay. so when she's talking about, some cultures are less equal than others, i don't know what it means. i don't know what she's getting at. and i also found a remark that within that interview where she said a lot of people coming here hate israel. well, where's the

evidence for this? i mean, it may well be some people coming here are anti—israeli or pro—palestinian. >> she might be talking about the swamping of the streets of people. >> well, if she is, then an awful lot of those are british citizens, so we can't. >> well, i think that's part of the point she's making, though, isn't it, that when you come to this country, culture is more than cuisine or clothes, but it's more customs and things like that and adhering to british values. and i think in her view she was well, protest is a british value. >> i mean , we are a democratic >> i mean, we are a democratic country and people are allowed to protest and express their point of view. >> yes, but we probably wouldn't be, you know, shouting from the river to the sea and things like that, you know, i think the culture of this country is not one to sort of behave in that manner. i think. so that's how i feel. >> well, i mean, i call it free speech, but it might be free speech. >> but i think our culture is we're a lot kinder than that. i don't think i think the culture of this country is about british values. >> i wonder what the definition or the definitions of british values. yeah, there isn't one. it's difficult, isn't it? it's complex and it's subjective. for

me it's rule of law. it's treating people equally . if treating people equally. if you're gay, you shouldn't be persecuted for being gay. if you're a woman , you should be you're a woman, you should be treated equally like a man. and there are , and i agree with there are, and i agree with nigel that the word equal, it's unnecessary and it's confusing. i think if she'd have just said , i think if she'd have just said, if you're going to come to the country, just embrace british values and therefore examples of what british values are , and what british values are, and then you can start to have a discussion about areas of the world where people don't embrace those values. >> okay . so she said here. she >> okay. so she said here. she said we cannot be naive and assume that immigrants will automatically abandon ancestral ethnic hostilities at the border, or that all cultures are equally valid. they are not. >> again , valid. that's i don't >> again, valid. that's i don't understand why she used the word valid, but anyway, there are parts of the world and there are people coming into this country who do not embrace those four values that i just mentioned . values that i just mentioned. >> i get i sort of get where she's going with this, but to me, i'm slightly confused with what she's saying there as well. well, i think we're all agreeing on that, that it doesn't. >> it is not clear what she's

trying to get at, and, well, i mean, this is one of the things i was saying about her earlier. there's an awful lot of this. i'm not quite sure. what does she mean? you mentioned, in fact, that the mcdonald's where she said that she became working class at 16 by shifting in a mcdonald's, don't know what that means, exactly. first of all, it seems to be nonsense, but i just don't know what she was trying to get at. and that's one of the problems i found about her leadership . she's been she is leadership. she's been she is one of the favourites. and yet she comes out with what i can only describe as things that are just patently odd. >> do you think it's a bit gobbledegook? >> that doesn't make any sense, but just to unpick and just try and get into her mindset. what about the people who are coming to this country who do not embrace, for example , equality embrace, for example, equality for women and equality for people who are homosexuals? now, there are parts of this world, if you go to india, for example , if you go to india, for example, they've got the caste system where you have incredible poverty and you are destined for a life of incredible, incredible poverty because of the family who you were born into. it's

called the caste system. and there's a billion people i understand there or thereabouts on the indian subcontinent. >> weirdly, it was the british when they went to india who actually entrenched that you could actually move up and down castes. and then we insisted the castes. and then we insisted the caste was put on an id cards and suddenly they couldn't move around. yes but, but but my point is, is that if you come from that part of the world and those values are entrenched in you, and you come over to the uk, then you are less likely, in my opinion, to embrace, i'm going to go back to my earlier statement about british values. >> i think that's the point that she's trying to make, although i think it's slightly, clumsily put in this. but i hear what she's trying to get to , which is she's trying to get to, which is that we can't assume that when somebody comes to this country, they'll then leave all those disputes that they've had with people from other cultures within their own culture that they've come from , where they'll they've come from, where they'll leave them at the border. so we are importing internal cultures from other cultures into our own culture. yeah. >> no, i can see that. i mean, i mean , clearly if, say, somebody mean, clearly if, say, somebody is coming from the middle east, they would have very definite

ideas about the israel, gaza, hezbollah dispute. well, exactly. and but but if that's within the context of danny's british values that you've outlined, that's fine. >> but she's saying that they're not equal. then because then when you come to this country, those things are not left. and then we end up with a culture that then suddenly there's an issue with women and all that kind of thing. well, listen, this show is nothing without you and your views. so let's, let's welcome our great british voice onto the show, their opportunity to be on the show and tell us what they think about the topics we're discussing. where should we're discussing. where should we go? should we go to northamptonshire and speak to miranda richardson, the miranda richardson? no, not the miranda richardson. it's our miranda richardson. it's our miranda richardson. miranda, do you understand? what do you understand? what do you understand what? he's trying to drive out? does it make any sense to you? is it gobbledegook ? sense to you? is it gobbledegook? >> i, i kind of get what she's trying to say. and i kind of agree with danny on that. with the with the british values. i just think in a little bit of true politician form, she's made it very hard to understand what she was trying to say to people ,

she was trying to say to people, i think that's kind of how it's come across. >> nobody, i say nobody people don't necessarily want to support fgm. people don't necessarily want to support child marriage, you know, being anti—gay, you know, these are all issues that as a cultural society, we don't really want to tolerate. >> so i fully understand that. i just think in how she's dealt with it and the phrasing she's used and not everybody's equal. well, hang on, you're saying not everybody's equal, but we're pushing for equal rights for everybody, you know. so i think it's slightly difficult. difficult how she's kind of phrased it and it has made it very, very hard to understand. but i do i do get, you know, british values. you know, in a, in a past life i had to teach british values, which were, you know, our, our laws and how we live and what it means and how we, we know when we travel to other countries, we have to abide by their rules and their regulations. you know, you can get , you know, put to prison regulations. you know, you can get, you know, put to prison in in countries that you go to if

you go with your partner and you're not married, for example, you're not married, for example, you know, that's that's their culture. we get that, i just think she could have probably phrased it a little bit less political, as we would say, it's a bit of a word salad, wasn't it? >> thank you very much, miranda. lovely to speak to you. that's miranda richardson. she is our great british voice for this houn great british voice for this hour. right. you're with me. i'm nana akua. this is gb news. we're live on tv, online, and on digital radio. coming up in the next hour. the next great british debate. i'm asking, is this the beginning of the end for sir keir starmer? next, though it's worldview with paul duddndge

good afternoon. it's just gone 1650. this is gb news. we are britain's news channel. i'm nana akua welcome. let's travel over to america now and find out what's going on in the united

states. let's speak to the host of the politics people podcast, paul duddridge. let's travel over there. it's world view. of course, trump is threatening to criminally prosecute google if he wins in november. paul, do you think he might be biting off more than he can chew on that one? >> yes . >> yes. >> yes. >> and don't say it until he's won. what does he owe ? i'm won. what does he owe? i'm sitting here in wahid ali's back room and i'm like, don't say stuff like that. say, i'm going to give google $10 billion if i win. instead, he said, i'm going to criminally prosecute the people that badmouthed me. and it's like is in everybody's home. so i listen . he he has home. so i listen. he he has said because of the bad stories that the algorithm keeps finding about him, he is going to criminally prosecute, google for that algorithm that finds these bad stories and promotes them if he wins the election and he just makes winning the election less likely. now he's gone for google

anyway. but yes, yes, that's his. that's this. that's yesterday. that was yeah. >> you see, i don't know why he's doing this because according to the gallup poll, more americans identified there was a republicans and democrats, and that's for the first time in decades. so maybe him saying that might not harm him too much, but i don't think it's wise. i'm with you. >> yeah. it's just it's just unnecessary. it'sjust >> yeah. it's just it's just unnecessary. it's just he could just say, look , they're less just say, look, they're less favourable to me. look, he used to do it with the news media. fake news, fake news. he didn't go on then to say, i'm going to criminally prosecute cnn . he criminally prosecute cnn. he would just be like, you cannot believe them, which i think is perfectly in tune with his normal message. but yeah . no, normal message. but yeah. no, it's and as you say, more, more, this is important. more republican or more us citizens are finally identifying as republican, which is actually a bit of a surprise if you consider how much bias there has beenin consider how much bias there has been in the media in the united states for the last few years, and that's a very good sign. the reason it's important is this has come from gallup polling that that that actually that's

an indicator. i think the last time was 2004. and this usually works favourably. you know , works favourably. you know, quelle surprise for the republican candidate. so that's a very nice little indicator . a very nice little indicator. there are a lot of nice i think the last time we spoke i said the last time we spoke i said the one candidate that he could beatis the one candidate that he could beat is kamala . and i have to beat is kamala. and i have to say with little sort of signs like that little phillips in that direction, it's looking very favourable for him for the first time in a long time. and i would also say, you know , in would also say, you know, in contrast to the google story, the news media over here is actually giving kamala quite a grilling that it never gave joe biden . biden. >> interesting. well, that's because she's well, she seems a little bit crazy sometimes with all that laughing. and also she's making a rare visit to the border, which i would suggest she probably stays away because then it highlights her incompetence when it came to it. >> she is more interested. her team are more interested in campaign , claiming that she was campaign, claiming that she was never the border tsar. when a simple if you use bad story

google, you can just find cnn going. the borders are, the borders are. but she's like the first time in like three and a half years she's visited. i've been there more often and i don't even live anywhere near it. and she's like, first time in three and a half years. she is going to be the border president. she says she is, you know, tough on the border. and there's something like they agree, it's like 8 to 10 million have come in in during this administration across that border. >> yeah. well she should probably stay away from it because then it absolutely highlights her incompetence. paul duddridge, always a pleasure . thank you very much pleasure. thank you very much for joining me. you've gone very forjoining me. you've gone very american with your hair, though i think the americanism is seeping into him now because he says very bouffant. hi. good to see you, paul . next up though, see you, paul. next up though, if you've just tuned in. welcome. i'm nana akua. this is gb news. we're live on tv, onune gb news. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. on the way the interview with andrew eborn. you've seen him a lot on the channel, but who is andrew eborn? he's done a lot. he's got a very fascinating story. you will not want to miss it, but first, let's get an update with your weather.

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outbreaks of heavy rain and we also have a rain warning that comes into force across much of the southern parts of england and into wales. that rain continues to push into parts of the midlands and northern eastern parts of england as well. cloudy skies to start across parts of northern ireland, with outbreaks of rain here across parts of scotland, though we may see some brightness. but on the whole it's still quite a cloudy picture with some spots of rain. so through monday morning that rain continues to push its way north and eastwards , lingers for north and eastwards, lingers for a time across northern parts of wales into northern north midlands and into yorkshire so we could see some further disruption here with possible flooding as well towards the south of that, turning drier with some bright skies developing and across parts of scotland as well. we may hold on to some sunshine, but on the whole it's a largely cloudy day, so through monday evening that rain continues across much of northern parts of england, really holding on apart across

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party conference has kicked off today. but which tory candidate gets your vote? robert jenrick kemi badenoch james cleverly and of course tom tugendhat there, battling it out to lead the party. i've got a poll up right now on x asking you that very question. which tory candidate gets your vote? if it's none of the above, then let us know why that is. as well. then the interview. andrew eborn joins me to shed some light on his very colourful career. who is the real andrew eborn then in clickbait? some interesting decisions on the catwalk from this model, but what happens next? she appears to jump grab a bar in the air and then, well, what happens next? you won't want to miss it. it's hilarious. but first, let's get your latest news headlines with sophia wenzler . wenzler. >> nana. thank you. good afternoon. it'sjust >> nana. thank you. good afternoon. it's just gone. 5:00.

i'm sophia wenzler with your headlines. the conservative party conference is getting underway in birmingham today, andifs underway in birmingham today, and it's kicking off already with tory leadership hopeful robert jenrick criticising rival kemi badenoch for saying maternity pay is excessive. speaking to times radio, kemi badenoch said maternity pay has gone too far and the government needed to interfere less in people's lives. mrjenrick responded to the comments, saying that the party should be firmly on the side of parents. meanwhile, earlier on gb news today, our deputy political editor tom harwood spoke to all of the tory leadership candidates. he quizzed robert jenrick on whether he could support any policy that the labour government could table. >> i've already said that the nhs needs reform and if wes streeting and keir starmer come forward with genuine reforms in the national interest that improve productivity, so that we actually talk about outputs, not just inputs, i would support them. i've already said that the

nhs needs reform, and if wes streeting and keir starmer come forward with genuine reforms in the national interest that improve productivity, so that we actually talk about outputs, not just inputs, i would support them. >> and when pressed on why the conservatives suffered such a historic loss at the general election, leadership candidate james cleverly had this to say. >> you've got to recognise that the british people kicked us out for a reason and they kicked us out because of the gulf between what we said and what we did. so we need to promise less but deliver on everything. we promise . promise. >> meanwhile, tom tugendhat was asked why mps should back him, considering he's the only candidate left in the race who hasn't held a full cabinet position. >> i'm not going to hold it against them. their lack of experience on the front line in combat, i'm not going to hold against them for their lack of experience in serious operational theatres like iraq and afghanistan. i'm not going to hold against them their, you know, their record of the past few years. my job is to set

forward my record and demonstrate what i can offer this country . this country. >> and last but not least, kemi badenoch was asked if she thought the leadership contest has been a clean race. >> i think that whenever people do things that are, you know, about other candidates, people can see. so i'm just focused on my own campaign. it's for the party authorities to decide. i'm very happy to correct the record, but it shows that he's not actually reading or listening to what i'm saying. >> in other news, the israeli military has launched fresh strikes on lebanon today, saying they have struck dozens of hezbollah targets. the latest wave of attacks comes after israel killed 33 people and wounded 195 others yesterday. that's according to the lebanese health ministry. yesterday david lammy spoke with the lebanese prime minister following a series of strikes on beirut. the foreign secretary says they agreed that an immediate ceasefire is required to bring

an end to the bloodshed. it comes after the terrorist group hezbollah confirmed their leader, hassan nasrallah, was killed in an airstrike on southern lebanon. israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu says israel settled the score with nasrallah's death . to austria nasrallah's death. to austria now, where early projections are showing the right leaning freedom party has finished first in the austrian general election. the party, led by herbert kickl, has promised austrians to build fortress austrians to build fortress austria to restore their security, prosperity and peace. the right leaning group is expected to be in pole position to form a coalition for the first time since the second world war. now almost 10 million households have been warned they risk overpaying for their energy if they don't send metre readings to their supplier before the price rise takes effect on the 1st of october. the average household energy bill is set to increase by £149 a year from this tuesday, as ofgem increases its price cap.

philip schofield says the utter betrayal by his television colleagues has made him never want to be a daytime presenter ever again. the 62 year old is set to appear on channel five's castaway, marking his first tv appearance since leaving itv in may of 2023. following an admission of an unwise but not illegal affair with a younger male colleague. and finally, spacex has launched its mission to bring back two astronauts who have been stranded on the international space station. the dragon capsule, which has one ignition mechanical power and lift—off of the dragon capsule, which has two empty seats for butch wilmore and suni williams, lifted off from cape canaveral last night. the pair were only meant to be in for space eight days, but after a fault was found on their return vehicle, the new boeing starliner, it returned to earth empty as a

precaution, leaving them stranded for almost four months. the new team hope to bring them back in february of next year. those are the latest gb news headlines. now it's back to nana for the very latest gb news direct to your smartphone , sign direct to your smartphone, sign up to news alerts by scanning the qr code, or go to gbnews.com >> forward slash alerts . >> forward slash alerts. >> forward slash alerts. >> thank you sophia. this is gb news we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. i'm nana akua. welcome. if you've just tuned in coming up we'll be going live to the conservative party conference. as the four candidates are vying for the job of replacing rishi sunak as leader will have all the latest from birmingham. the interview i'll be joined today by lawyer, broadcaster and futurist andrew eborn. he'll be here to discuss his remarkable career. now from

broadcaster or from lawyer to broadcaster, he's done it all. you won't want to miss that. then, for the great british debate this hour, i'm asking, is this the beginning of the end for sir keir starmer? he's just lost rosie duffield, an mp, and his approval ratings are at record lows. so for the great british debate, this hour, i'm asking, is this the beginning of the end for our prime minister? and in a clip of fate , what and in a clip of fate, what happens next? have a look . it's happens next? have a look. it's a model who seems to have grabbed a bar overhead and is doing a sort of split jump type thing. what do you think happens next? you won't want to miss it. it's hilarious. some of your thoughts. post your comments gbnews.com/yoursay . so the gbnews.com/yoursay. so the conservative party conference has begun today, and leadership candidates have laid out their plans on a range of policies in

their hope to replace rishi sunak as the leader. now, this is the first conference since their election defeat in july, and robert jenrick tom tugendhat , and robert jenrick tom tugendhat, kemi badenoch and james cleverly are busy drumming up support in the contest. well let's now cross over to birmingham and speak with gb news deputy political editor tom harwood. so, tom, rishi sunak is getting ready to speak at some point. give us an update on what's been going on there . going on there. >> yes, that's right, the queue. a surprisingly large queue actually, to hear rishi sunak speak has started going into that hall. so that will be coming up at around half past. but i have to say, nana you might notice i'm no longer on the stand. i've travelled a long, long way. i actually haven't travelled that long away at all. this is about three feet away from where i stand. is why? because i've come to the stand of james cleverly. he, of course, is in the vying to be the next conservative party leader, joint third place amongst mps. as things stand.

but he's had a boost to his campaign today. the former member of parliament for sutton and cheam, paul scully , former and cheam, paul scully, former london minister. viewers might recognise her, he has declared. for james cleverly and i'm delighted to say that paul scully joins me now. paul why have you backed team cleverly? >> hi, tom. >> hi, tom. >> well, i think, james, i've looked at the race over the last few weeks and to james me speaks to the widest group of people not just the members, but but the floating voters, the people that we need if we are actually going to bounce out of opposition back into government any time soon. and that's really , any time soon. and that's really, really important. >> you shouldn't underestimate the guy for being nice. >> the fact the way he can communicate get complicated, complicated ideas across clearly . complicated ideas across clearly. >> but he's a doer as well. >> but he's a doer as well. >> he can get stuff done. and that's what i think the members and the public will respond to. >> you're a former london minister. james is a former london deputy mayor. is this all a bit too london? >> no, i think look, he represents a seat, albeit in the

south—east, but he's travelled the country when he was chairman of the party, so he knows every part of and corner of our country has reached out there. but importantly with london, though, of course, there's 9 million people, all with different aspirations, all with different aspirations, all with different viewpoints, all with different viewpoints, all with different backgrounds. so it's an interesting melting pot to have grown up and learnt your your political teeth to then transfer that to the rest of the country. >> now, of course, he's in third place. as things stand, only the final two get through to the membership vote. can he still win this? >> yeah, because this is up to mps now to look at not just who's going to be popular in a month's time, but who's going to take us on that journey. labour party, we can see them floundering. doesn't mean everyone just suddenly turns to us. we're at the foothills of our recovery . they've got to our recovery. they've got to look to people like james. say, who is it out of? those four are going to do that job of continuing on that that that road to recovery. james can do that. >> what's your betting? who's

going to be in the final two? >> well, i think james has got a really good opportunity. i don't know who that other person will be. it could be any one of the four. frankly, it's quite an open race now. >> i think it is a very open race. what else is open? is the stall behind you? what on earth is going on with this spinning wheel? >> well, everyone's got their merch and, you know, you can have you can be licking candidates faces on lollipops. you can have wagging fingers. but what they're doing here, they've got the spinning wheel. you can win a prize t shirts or things or what? i did earlier on something that's really practical. actually. it's a phone charger. anyone that's stood in a conference for days on end knows that these things come in really handy. and of course, it's power to our members because james understands how we need to make sure we revitalise the party membership up . membership up. >> are these are these not from all of the candidates various bnbes all of the candidates various bribes and trinkets to buy support? >> let's just call them aid memoirs . >> let's just call them aid memoirs. they are >> let's just call them aid memoirs . they are there to, you memoirs. they are there to, you know, to remain relevant. what i found really exciting about this conference, it could have been a real graveyard after the after

the result that we had earlier on in this year. but actually the leadership has been in the forefront of people's minds. and actually people have been flying around talking about it, debating about which candidate they want in a really pragmatic, positive way. so that's been really interesting for me. i think the merch is just a bit of fun with all the freebies on offer. >> i'm frankly surprised keir starmer hasn't turned up to try and grab some these glasses. >> do not say james cleverly. these are my very own glasses and you paid for them yourself. >> i did indeed. well, shall we have a go at spinning this wheel? >> come on, let's get him. actually, you should spin this, shouldn't you? >> okay. go on. so here we go. right. | >> okay. go on. so here we go. right. i was about to pass my microphone over to the wheel, but no. there we go. what have you got? you got? i've got a tote bag. okay. marvellous. that's the big question. is the. is the prize available or have they been. >> oh, there you go. >> oh, there you go. >> you see, this is what happens. >> we've just been we've been absolutely run off our feet because we've got probably the funniest merch. we've got the wittiest merch and the most useful as well , because this wittiest merch and the most useful as well, because this is

a talk me through three bits of funny merch key stuff. >> this is for you're in the hall , you're >> this is for you're in the hall, you're getting a bit warm. you fold it into a fan. where are my props? and then, right, almost a getting together of peo my who've lost, you know, so almost a getting together of peo my props? lost, you know, so almost a getting together of peomy props? and, you know, so almost a getting together of peo my props? and then, (now, so almost a getting together of peomy props? and then, right,so you're absolutely exhausted. and are my props? and then, right, you're absolutely exhausted. and james is fantastic. thank you . james is fantastic. thank you . james is fantastic. thank you. >> and it says i'm a cleverly james is fantastic. thank you. >> and it says i'm a cleverly fan on it. >> if you want to get on the log fan on it. >> if you want to get on the log flume in thorpe park, hard core flume in thorpe park, hard core caps. >> well, and even the swift, caps. >> well, and even the swift, even the swifty bracelets . well, even the swifty bracelets . well, even the swifty bracelets. well, there you go. that's everything even the swifty bracelets. well, there you go. that's everything at the james cleverly store. at the james cleverly store. back to you , nana. back to you , nana. back to you, nana. >> all right. thank you very back to you, nana. >> all right. thank you very much. tom harwood. right. let's much. tom harwood. right. let's discuss this with the former discuss this with the former deputy leader of reform uk, ben deputy leader of reform uk, ben habib. ben habib, thank you very habib. ben habib, thank you very much for joining much for joining habib. ben habib, thank you very much forjoining me. really good habib. ben habib, thank you very much forjoining me. really good to talk to you. so the to talk to you. so the conservative party conference is conservative party conference is underway. do you think it's underway. do you think it's somewhat underwhelming? and your somewhat underwhelming? and your thoughts on the leadership thoughts on the leadership candidates as well? candidates as well? >> so i mean it's bound to be >> so i mean it's bound to be underwhelming isn't it. >> they've just been thumped in underwhelming isn't it. >> they've just been thumped in the general election. it's the general election. it's almost a getting together of almost a getting together of people who've lost, you know, so people who've lost, you know, so

they're not going to be banging tables with joy. and of course, i think the two big things which we're facing , obviously the we're facing, obviously the leadership, the contest, but also the heart and soul of the party that i think is the bigger fight for the conservatives. where is the heart and soul of the party? and as much as i like paul scully, just in that interview, there, paul didn't really get it. he talked about james cleverly appealing to a broad section of people trying to reconnect with the electorate, but he didn't talk about the fact that the conservative party lost the last election and the reason it governed so badly for the years before that is because it doesn't have a united ideology. >> the conservative party is a divided church. it's got those who are the one nation wet tories, effectively europhiles part of the blair inheritance, large, you know, levels of regulation , high taxes, and regulation, high taxes, and ignonng regulation, high taxes, and ignoring the nation state, ignonng ignoring the nation state, ignoring the nation state, ignoring the british working class. that's the one nation

lot. and then you've got those

question mark over his authenticity with, with the exception of generic and badenoch, the other two, i mean, you know, what do they stand for? >> yeah , i hear you. a lot of >> yeah, i hear you. a lot of people don't seem that interested in the conservative party, but right now it's probably a good time for them because you're seeing what's happening to the labour party as all the sort of scandal over the cash for clothes, which they say they perfectly honestly declared these things or declared them . i these things or declared them. i would probably take away the word honestly, but where do you think that leaves the labour party as well? and obviously you've got rosie duffield leaving the party as well . leaving the party as well. >> so what i would like to see at the dispatch box, just very quickly finishing on the conservatives thing, what i would like to see, the dispatch box is a real, combative, conservative minded set of arguments from someone who can be articulate, erudite, deliver the deliver the speeches and you know, there are only two candidates for that since

jenrick or badenoch. and it's not really about policy, it's about the arguments they can make at the dispatch box because they've got to to stand up starmer. and as far as starmer is concerned, coming back to your thing, you know, if you've got a prime minister, rupert lowe, my friend, put this exceptionally well. he said if you've got a prime minister who can't even buy his own socks, he needs to be taken out of office. and what this is revealed, you know, it doesn't come close to the £800,000 that boris johnson spent on refurbishing downing street. and i think he got the loan from a mate of his. this is relatively small beer, but it shows the same embedded cronyism, a preparedness for moral corruption, for to allow someone like lord alli not just to finance the prime minister but the deputy prime minister, her boyfriend in a flat in new york, as i mentioned, glasses. chancellor of the exchequer. let's not forget the chancellor of the exchequer. you know, all of the exchequer. you know, all of this is symptomatic of the

same old tory cronyism against which the labour party used to rail , and they've lost their rail, and they've lost their moral authority. rosie duffield , moral authority. rosie duffield, you've got to take your hat off to rosie duffield. what a fantastic lady. early on coming out , declaring fantastic lady. early on coming out, declaring her fantastic lady. early on coming out , declaring her position, out, declaring her position, sticking by resigning her, resigning her position in the labour party . terrific. and i labour party. terrific. and i and i hope we see more of that. ihope and i hope we see more of that. i hope we see more honest, principled politicians. that's what this country needs ideologically motivated mps who will stick to their guns and fight for what they believe is in the interests of this country. >> yeah, well, i'm not so sure. we've got that. remember the two child benefit cap? the ones who didn't agree? well, they got they lost their seats or they lost the whip. so then when it came to the other vote, a lot of them abstained with regard to them abstained with regard to the winter fuel payments. so rather than voting on where we go with this, a lot of them are career politicians. and it looks to me that we've lost the conviction . thank you very much, conviction. thank you very much, ben habib, really good to talk to you. he was the former deputy leader of reform uk. right. next

the interview lawyer r , broadcaster and futurist. andrew eborn joins

good afternoon. 22 minutes after 5:00 i'm nana i clashed with the sofa. i've just realised we're live on tv, online and on digital radio, and it's now time for this week's interview . for this week's interview. andrew eborn. who is he? he's a multifaceted professional, serving as the and an international lawyer and a business strategic strategist, a broadcaster and a futurist, whatever that means. what does that mean? he's widely recognised for his expertise in intellectual property, media and technology, helping businesses navigate the challenges of changing markets and maximising their potential. andrew is also a prominent social and political commentator, contributing to major platforms like the bbc,

sky , major platforms like the bbc, sky, cnn major platforms like the bbc, sky , cnn and of course, here sky, cnn and of course, here @gbnews. as well as a media presenter. andrew leads various shows and podcasts such as the muckrakers on tnt radio. have you heard of that? have you heard any more ? do you want to heard any more? do you want to heard any more? do you want to hear more or have i told you everything you need to know? andrew eborn joins me now. >> it's a delight to be here, as always. >> so, andrew, we see you on lots of different channels, but nobody realises that you've actually had quite a quite a big career and you've worked with some massive stars. so talk to me about your, you know, where were you born? yeah. where did you grow? >> i was born at a very early age. >> interestingly, in north london, but what happened in my early career, my background is as an intellectual property lawyer. >> and what i now do is work across the ip value chain. >> so everything from the creation of formats i have a company with the people who created who wants to be a millionaire? >> and we're churning out loads more of those formats around the world and licensing those we also get involved with productions. so working with people like duran duran and alison jackson, we did a their latest video, which was a glorious thing there, but also i

helped people make lots of money. so everything about intellectual property and the great thing about intellectual property, i mean, some people hear intellectual property , hear intellectual property, intellectual property, they don't know what it means. i'll tell you exactly what it means. it's rather like physical property is like your house or your sofa and wonderful things like that. intellectual property is anything that you create . is anything that you create. >> so it can be a copyright. >> so it can be a copyright. >> for example, if you write words, you do a little doodle, do a drawing that basically is your intellectual property. you've also got things like trademarks and passing off and sporting rights. >> so i help companies basically exploit those rights, license those rights. i'll give you an example . i took peter rabbit, example. i took peter rabbit, for example, the brand we took that over to japan and did the very first licensing for that. >> it's now a multi—million dollar business in japan across things like merchandise on tv and various other things. >> i also work with things like sporting rights . so with formula sporting rights. so with formula one, i negotiated the rights for japan and also did the very first merchandising deals, and also things like computer game rights , which weren't being exploited. >> so i helped negotiate the deal with bernie ecclestone as it then was. >> and what happened is they weren't being exploited. nobody. but there was a big thing in

japan about people playing these games, and there were all sorts of pirate games on the market, like ayrton senna, as opposed to doing the proper names. >> so, exactly. >> so, exactly. >> so, exactly. >> so we, we, we tidied up the whole market and the television company at that stage called fuji television basically said, look, we understand japan. could you help us exploit the rest of the world? so i then became their agent for selling those rights around the world. >> gosh, crikey . so you've done >> gosh, crikey. so you've done quite a bit. a lot of people won't know that. but let's take it back to where were you born? >> i was born in north london, nonh >> i was born in north london, north london, north london, in barnet, 89 station road. the blue plaque is there already is it? yeah. >> yeah, right. >> yeah, right. >> you wish. >> you wish. >> i never let the truth stand in the way of a good story, >> but basically we then moved down to the south coast in a place called bracklesham bay, where my mother basically was rescuing lots of animals. we had 18 horses, and she would rescue cats and dogs and one sheep and a goat and things like that. and what happens? i grew up on the south coast before being sent off to boarding school, and then i went to study law at durham university and after that i came

down to become a barrister. and i was very lucky because we managed to get a scholarship in central london in the temple, and they gave me a free flat and and they gave me a free flat and a batman gown and a wig and basically started practising intellectual property. >> i see now you've obviously been very successful at it. >> you've done quite a bit of work around it. what's been the most, i think the biggest thing or biggest highlight you'd say to date? >> i met everybody from big politicians like bill clinton and maggie thatcher to all the current ones as well. i think my favourite. however, if you've ever seen the movie lost in translation, it stars bill murray and what he does is these big stars. >> a—list stars go to japan to promote products, and the reason they go there is twofold is one, there's a lot of money to be made. >> and secondly, people don't see it outside of japan. so i've taken lots of celebrities basically on based on the agency that i basically on based on the agency thati do basically on based on the agency that i do a lot of work for, still do work for after all these years called dentsu. and what happened is i did a big campaign with stephen hawking, as he then was with uniqlo. >> one second, we'll come back to you, but let's cross live now to you, but let's cross live now to the tory party conference, where the former prime minister, rishi sunak, is speaking . there

rishi sunak, is speaking. there he is . he is. >> okay. thank you everyone. it's great to see you all absolutely a brilliant buzz at this conference. isn't there at this conference. isn't there a terrific energy . a terrific energy. >> thousands of you here. >> thousands of you here. >> we've got members , >> we've got members, councillors, mps, businesses in fact it's such a hot ticket. >> i'm surprised that keir starmer hasn't asked somebody to buy him one. >> now i want to start by saying thank you. thank you for everything that you do for our party and the support that you've always given us there in me . me. >> you all work tirelessly dunng >> you all work tirelessly during the election campaign, and i am only sorry that i could not deliver the result that your efforts deserved . efforts deserved. >> and as you know, as you know, this is my final conference as leader . leader. >> and new leader of our party

will be announced in just five weeks time. so i'm not delivering the usual leader's speech and instead, this week, the stage will be for the four leadership candidates. >> this conference should be about their message to you, about their message to you, about their message to you, about the future of our party and our country. >> one of them will be our next leader , and this is their time leader, and this is their time to show you what they will bring to show you what they will bring to the role to inspire you. and it is important that they have the opportunity to do that without distraction . but i did without distraction. but i did want to be here to say a proper thank you to you all. you the members, are the spine of our party. you will be central to us winning again. it is you who take our message to the country. it is you who are on the doorsteps in all weathers , and doorsteps in all weathers, and it is you who embody our party's values. but you are not only the backbone of our country, our party, but our communities too. you know that the strength of our society is not measured by

how much government spends, by what we do for each other . how much government spends, by what we do for each other. you lead the little platoons that do so much to make our country great. now, i know the election result was hard . we were all result was hard. we were all devastated to lose so many good conservatives. now of course we need to learn the lessons of this defeat. we did not get everything right in office. >> no government ever does and we do now need to reflect on that. >> but we should not forget what we have achieved. these last 14 years. we must not. and i know we will not let keir starmer rewrite history. the last labour government left us a note saying that there was no money left. we left them inflation back at target mortgage rates falling and the fastest growing economy in the g7 .

in the g7. >> when i became prime minister i was determined to restore stability to our economy , and we did. >> in the election, we warned that labour would tax more and borrow more because we all know that socialists always run out of other people's money. >> something, by the way , that >> something, by the way, that lord alli is already finding out the hard way . i lord alli is already finding out the hard way. i think i got it, but looking back over the last 14 years, we conservatives made our country fairer and stronger. >> we steered this nation through the biggest challenges we have faced. >> okay, cool. okay great. thank you. >> cheers. for 100 years, the return of war to the european continent. >> the biggest spike in global energy prices in half a century. but despite having to contend with all those challenges, we left office with 4 million more people in work. >> that's 4 million people

having their lives transformed, 4 million more people knowing the confidence, security and purpose that a job brings. >> and we conservatives under david took the difficult but necessary decisions to repair the public finances and control the public finances and control the national debt . and that the national debt. and that meant that when covid hit, we could support people and businesses with furlough, provide record funding to the nhs and deliver the fastest vaccine rollout in the world anywhere . we know that it is anywhere. we know that it is business and free enterprise, not the state that will provide the growth and dynamism that our country needs . that is why we country needs. that is why we cut taxes. so british companies could invest, innovate and grow. we raised the income tax threshold to 12,500 pounds, lifting hundreds of thousands of people out of tax altogether . people out of tax altogether. and in just the last year, jeremy delivered a £900 tax cut

for those in work, because we believe that hard work should always be rewarded . we also know always be rewarded. we also know that a good education is the best way to spread opportunity and create a more prosperous society. so, led by michael, we took on the blob. its failed ideology, the soft bigotry of low expectations and reformed our education system. the result? our children are now the best readers in the western world. we have given a whole generation opportunities that they would not have otherwise had, and our country will reap the benefit of those reforms for generations to come. and that is a legacy we conservatives should be proud of . we all

be proud of. we all believe in the dignity of work that those who can work should work. it's not morally right or economically sustainable to just park people on out of work benefits out of sight, out of mind. so led by ian, we reformed our welfare system to make sure that work always pays and we conservatives don't always wear our hearts on our sleeves. we don't parade our consciences. we don't parade our consciences. we don't virtue signal. but we are compassionate. and we know that true compassion means tackling problems, not just emoting about them. in our time in office, we reduced absolute poverty. we reduced absolute poverty. we reduced child poverty, we reduced child poverty, we reduced pensioner poverty and thatis reduced pensioner poverty and that is a record we can all be proud of . we conservatives also proud of. we conservatives also believe that those who have worked hard all their lives and

contributed so much to our country , deserve security and country, deserve security and respect in retirement. that is why we introduced the triple lock to ensure that the insult of labour's £0.75 pension rise could never be repeated, and thatis could never be repeated, and that is why we will continue to oppose rachel reeves cruel decision to take the winter fuel allowance away from pensioners , allowance away from pensioners, away from pensioners on as little as £13,000, while handing highly paid train drivers almost a £10,000 train car . you know, a £10,000 train car. you know, as i know, the last few months have shown it is only us conservatives who will stand up for britain's pensioners . for britain's pensioners. >> we strengthened our united kingdom with the forces of separatism. >> now in retreat. we sent salmon and sturgeon home to think again . and i know that

think again. and i know that russell findlay will be a great new leader of the scottish conservatives. >> if that is conservative leader, he's obviously still the leader. rishi sunak addressing party members in birmingham, he thanked everybody at the start and he said that we will make our country great. we should not forget what we've achieved with the conservatives over the last 14 years and reminded us that the labour party left that note. there's no money left. but what he said in exchange he left the labour party was falling. inflation, a growing economy and the fastest growing economy in the fastest growing economy in the g7. and he did make that little quip, which was quite funny. lord alli is finding out that they always run out of other people's money, but he did talk about necessary decisions that the conservatives made to restore national debt. and he also promoted talked about that fast rolling out of the vaccine and the reduction of child poverty and pensioner poverty. and of course, the cruel decision that he referred to rachel reeves winter fuel payment, removal from

pensioners. so he's obviously still speaking. we'll catch up with some of that later. but first, just tuned in. welcome. this is gb news 36 minutes after 5:00. i'm nana akua. we're live on tv, online and on digital radio. still to come, the great british debate this hour. and i'm asking, is this the beginning of the end for sir keir starmer? you'll hear the thoughts of my broadcaster and journalist danny and also gb news senior political commentator

good afternoon . welcome. if good afternoon. welcome. if you've just tuned in, just coming up to 39 minutes after 5:00, i'm nana akua. we are live on tv, online, on digital radio. this is a gb news and it's time now for the great british debate. this hour i'm asking, is this the beginning of the end for sir keir starmer? now the prime minister has been in the spotlight since coming into power with controversy. well, it started off with riots, didn't it ? surrounding wardrobe gate

it? surrounding wardrobe gate freebies and working from home? well, not really not his own home. and this comes as rosie duffield has quit the party and a new poll from opinium shows sir keir starmer's net approval rating is down a whopping 30%. so for the great british debate this hour, i'm asking, is this the beginning of the end for sir keir starmer? well, joining me to discuss my panel, political commentator nigel nelson , commentator nigel nelson, broadcaster and journalist danny kelly, and andrew eborn. he's still here. can't get rid of me. yes with his book of failures, the book of failure. >> this is the one we're going to talk about this a little bit. >> but this is where sir keir starmer, the new chapter. this is the second edition with a foreword by mike reid, my good mate. but sir keir can appear in the third edition. we'll make that make sense . you're right. that make sense. you're right. what? basically the reason i did the book was so many people talk about success, but very rarely about success, but very rarely about the failure that leads to that success. and i always say that success. and i always say that if necessity is the mother of invention , well, failure is of invention, well, failure is the father of success. but sir keir , what a dreadful start. keir, what a dreadful start. i mean, talk about hypocrisy. you're turning round where he

criticised you might remember bons criticised you might remember boris johnson all about the curtains and the wallpaper. and carrie doesn't live here anymore. and they had this thing about interior designs. well now it is basically it's a two tier keir and his free gear is outrageous. the hypocrisy is what stinks the most. and you're looking at that sort of basis now, the rocky horror show, that's how it all started isn't it? with the dresses and the reason he has to spend thousands of pounds on spectacles is so he can see that hypocrisy . can see that hypocrisy. >> yeah, well, he needs to have a look at it because perhaps i don't see why he can't see it. >> nigel nelson no, it's not the end. i mean, he's got to think. no, it's been a bad beginning. i think is the way to put it, that the freebies have been a misstep, he has promised in fact, an independent ethics and integrity commission. that was one of the things it was that was promised in the election manifesto. i'd quite like to see him introduce that fairly shortly, so they can decide whether some of the things he's been up to and the other cabinet ministers have been up to is in

order, but it depends who he puts in it. >> right? because if he's got the choice of who goes in it, then the sort of people he's going to put in it, probably sue gray. yeah. well, you know, it's meant to be independent, but it won't be anyone from government. well, you know, but the people that they put in it will end up with all these cronies, labour cronies, which end up just, you know, just just supporting everything. danny kelly, i think it's too premature to suggest it's too premature to suggest it's the end, the beginning of the end, the beginning of the. >> i think it's too early to suggest it's the beginning of the end. if rosie duffield called a by—election, i think rosie duffield should do the honourable thing and say, i'm stepping down and i want a by—election because i don't think labour would win. and i think labour would win. and i think that the keir starmer has built foundations on very shaky ground. he's peed off the union backers about the old age people, old age pensioners and their pensions. they're not happy about the winter fuel allowance. rosie duffield, who overturned a massive tory majority to give labour their first victory in this constituency . i think she should constituency. i think she should have the courage of her conviction if she is so principled in life, she should call a by—election. i don't think labour would win it now if

labour didn't win it. and the tories or reform, or even rosie duffield as a as an independent, i think that foundation gets even shakier. and i think i still think it's too premature , still think it's too premature, but i think in 12 months, 18 months time, unless things dramatically improve and pick up and the british people feel that there's a difference. >> so rosie duffield, by—election may be definitely maybe lord alli could buy an election for sir keir starmer. he's bought everything else. no. the reality is that trust comes in on foot but leaves on horseback. we were given all these promises during the election. people voted for them. we're not going to increase taxes. not on the ordinary working man, whatever that means. well, we're realising that virtually anybody's not ordinary or working on that sort of premise because they're all going to be taxed , taking away going to be taxed, taking away the winter fuel allowance and at the winter fuel allowance and at the same time that you're announcing all these thousands of pounds spent on these freebies, it's abhorrent. the opfics freebies, it's abhorrent. the optics of night are absolutely appalling. >> the optics are bad. no i see, so as we keep saying, i think that they certainly are. and that's why he's absolutely right to say he won't do it anymore.

he shouldn't have done it in the first place. >> no lessons have been learned. he shouldn't he shouldn't have doneitin he shouldn't he shouldn't have done it in the first place. >> and having done it, he should have come out very quickly and announced absolutely everything. but that's what i've had. >> did you see him, though, in the interview with beth rigby, where he didn't even seem remorseful about any of it at all? no, i just that is that is all? no, i just that is that is a real problem as well. you've gone and done that. people are freezing and people and bills are going up and everything's rising and you're being told about it and asking whether you can see the optics. he didn't appear to understand . appear to understand. >> no, i mean, the point he was making there is that he hasn't actually done anything wrong in the sense that he's not broken any rules. i think that's the morally i think morally that's that's certainly a judgement you can make. but as far as the rules go, he didn't break them. he was a bit late in actually declaring them . isn't that declaring them. isn't that a breach of the rules? >> isn't that breaking the rules? if you're late in declaring you should actually. >> yeah, yeah. >> yeah, yeah. >> so he's broken the rules? >> so he's broken the rules? >> yes. he has members of the jury, >> yes. he has members of the jury, i tell you. so he's broken the rules. >> he's broken the rules.

>> he's broken the rules. >> and the rules are there for a reason. they are. and he broke them. >> yes, yes, he was a late declaration. he should. the rules weren't clear. no, no. >> oh, come on, there's another clip of him explaining the rules very clearly to boris johnson. 28 days. he knows the rules. he knows the rules. he broke the rules. and not only that, a bit of subterfuge going on when he did that interview at lord alli house where he put his picture there. 18 million. stay at home. listen, listen, we're running out of time. thank you, andrew eberechi eze. pleasure to see you.the eberechi eze. pleasure to see you. the book of failures by the book.book you. the book of failures by the book. book of failures . sounds book. book of failures. sounds fabulous. nigel nelson and also danny kelly. right. coming up next clip of bates very interesting decisions on the catwalk from this model. find out what happens next. >> oh,

my. >> well, i've been teasing this clip throughout the entire show, so it's now time for click bait. i thought we'd have a bit of fun

towards the end because we've been talking a lot of politics, so let's show you the first initial clip. it's a model. she's. she's a model. and we're going to show you the clip. there she is. she grabs the bar, lifts her legs, does the v. what do you think happens next? i'm going to ask my panel. danny kelly, what do you think happens next? >> does she release a really loud. you know what a loud or something? >> i think you can say that now, but if you can't. apologies for that language. right. >> nigel nelson, does she sort of do a double somersault and land on a trampoline or something like that? >> interesting, interesting. right. well, for the viewers at home and those on the radio, i'll talk you through exactly what happens, because i've been teasing it. let me play you the full thing and you can take a guess. right. so here it comes. as you can see, various models falling off the catwalk, various catwalkers having stumbles. there even appears to be some sort of paddling pool. and the lady climbing it just grabs the bar. it snaps. oh oh. and then another one. sort of falls over

on her shoes. so she grabs the bar and she falls off. i want to see that again. it's just so good, isn't it? >> here's the fella with the glasses and the sombrero. >> i think that's hilarious. is there any chance i want to see that again? i can't help it. not the fault. he looks a bit painful there, doesn't it? it looks funny to me. i thought it was very funny. anyway, you're supposed to grab the bar. and of course the bar snaps. then she lands on her. on her behind and crash comes crashing downwards with her heels. right now though, it's time to supplement sunday. the part of the show where where my panel take me through some of the stories that are hitting the headlines. joining me, senior political commentator nigel nelson, journalist and broadcaster danny kelly. all right. i'm going to start with you, nigel. your story please. yeah. >> this is from the sunday mirror and it's hmp woodhill in buckinghamshire, which is one of britain's most violent jails and trusted lags have been given t shirts with peace promoter emblazoned on the back and apparently that is calming disorder in the jail. also, the added advantage is they can't hide any tricks up their

sleeves. >> oh sleeves. >> on very good. i can't believe that would work. would that work ? that would work. would that work? >> well, give it a chance , danny. >> kelly. >> kelly. >> right, peter. people for the ethical treatment of animals have urged the met police. in fact , police forces across the fact, police forces across the uk to stop using dogs. you know , uk to stop using dogs. you know, for riot control and things like that. after the riots in the summer and a number of dogs were injured, poor things . and they injured, poor things. and they have no choice. a bobby has a choice. whether they want to be a copper. you know, they sign up and they take an oath. a dog doesn't, you know, they're trained to be aggressive and to be hostile in certain situations. and people. sorry, peter. people for the ethical treatment of animals say that enoughis treatment of animals say that enough is enough. but the thing is, how are you going to control a baying mob lobbing bricks at old bill? one of the things that you have is a dog. >> well, it looks like the police dogs actually enjoy themselves. i appreciate that some of them get injured and. but they're then retired. retired after after that . and retired after after that. and they have quite a pleasant retirement as far as i can gather. >> yeah. but they're always they have that switch. that means that they can potentially they have propensity to be extremely

violent because that's bred into them. that's trained into them. forgive me not bred . and it forgive me not bred. and it doesn't matter how old they get living at home with their i don't know, i think if they want to and they show willing it's fine. >> but yeah, they do get hurt. and that's a bit sad isn't it, when they do. well, listen, this is my one sober freshers reject booze in favour of spars and hummus. oh, how boring . so hummus. oh, how boring. so basically, our universities hold teetotal events. now for newcomers and freshers who turn their backs on alcohol and nights out. what a boring bunch. when i was at university, i was literally. and i'm not condoning any saying that anyone should do this, but i was probably drunk every night. it was . it was not every night. it was. it was not the point. the point of university, of course . i university, of course. i realised i had to pass exams, so then i sobered up quickly. when i had to do the following years. but the first year, when you do join, you want to have fun and enjoy yourself, i suppose, but they don't equate having a drink with a bit of fun. >> well, yeah, i mean, especially when you're when you're first going to university. it just seems to me that that's the idea of the place, go there, have some fun and do a little bit of work along the way. just pass the exams. >> but that's interesting

because there's a story in the last six months that young people have been turned off themselves by alcohol. fewer and fewer young people are actually picking up booze. >> do you know why i think that is? because i was the generation of the people who were drinking in the streets where now the mums of those children who watched us on tv . do you watched us on tv. do you remember when that was on tv? and there's lots of women really drunk throwing up everywhere. yeah. >> so you think you've put off the new generation? >> i think so, yeah, definitely, because i was definitely one of those. but listen, so on today's show, i've been asking for a great british debate. which tory candidate gets your vote? and according to our twitter poll, 44.6% of you voted for kemi badenoch. 40% of you said robert jenrick, 9.5% of you said james cleverly, and 6% of you went for tom tugendhat. and one person in the comments did suggest farage. but that might be tricky since he's not a conservative. well, he's not a conservative. well, he's probably a true conservative, but he's not a member of the tory party. huge thank you to my panel. gb news senior political commentator nigel nelson and journalist broadcaster danny kelly, and a massive thank you to you at home

for your company. thank you so much. i look forward to seeing you same time, same place on saturday. i'll leave you with the weather. enjoy. take care. have a good week . have a good week. >> looks like things are heating up . up. >> boxt boilers sponsors of weather on gb news. good afternoon. welcome to your gb news weather update from the met office. we've got an east west split in the weather today, but it's going to be turning increasingly unsettled with heavy spells of rain and some strong winds. and this is all to do with an area of low pressure out towards the west. we have a squeeze in those isobars as well, indicating some strong winds, and we do have a met office wind warning in force for gusts of 50 to 60mph across parts of wales and the southwest of england, accompanied by some heavy spells of rainfall further towards the north into scotland and northern ireland. generally

seeing a largely cloudy night to start monday morning, but a mild start monday morning, but a mild start with generally lows of 10 or 11 degrees, so a damp start to monday morning. we've got outbreaks of heavy rain and we also have a rain warning that comes into force across much of southern parts of england and into wales. that rain continues to push into parts of the midlands and northern eastern parts of england as well. cloudy skies to start across parts of northern ireland, with outbreaks of rain here. across parts of scotland, though we may see some brightness , but on the whole brightness, but on the whole it's still quite a cloudy picture with some spots of rain. so through monday morning that rain continues to push its way north and eastwards. lingers for a time across northern parts of wales , into northern north wales, into northern north midlands and into yorkshire , so midlands and into yorkshire, so we could see some further disruption here with possible flooding as well. towards the south of that, turning drier with some bright skies developing and across parts of scotland as well, we may hold on

to some sunshine, but on the whole it's a largely cloudy day. so through monday evening that rain continues across much of northern parts of england, really holding on apart across parts of lincolnshire as well. but as we go through tuesday, wednesday and thursday, it should be turning drier and also brighter. highs of 18. that warm feeling inside from boxt boilers . feeling inside from boxt boilers. sponsors of weather on

good evening. i'm sophia wenzler with your headlines at 6:00. rishi sunak has addressed the conservative party conference in birmingham for the last time as party leader. the former prime minister apologised for the general election loss and joked about sir keir starmer's ongoing gifting controversy. it's such a hot ticket. >> i'm surprised that keir starmer hasn't asked somebody to buy him one now. >> i want to start by saying thank you. >> thank you for everything that you do for our party and the support that you have always given us there in me. you all work tirelessly during the election campaign, and i am only sorry that i could not deliver the result that your efforts deserved. and as you know , as deserved. and as you know, as you know, this is my final conference as leader . and new conference as leader. and new leader of our party will be announced in just five weeks time. >> earlier, the conference

kicked off with tory leadership hopeful robert